[00:45] greetings [01:10] In #ubuntu, scientesss said: !uuid is needs method of looking up uuid of drives [01:13] !uuid [01:13] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [01:13] but but... [01:13] ter ter . . . [01:14] it has a method of looking them up already? [01:27] PriceChild: sudo blkid... yeah, been around since edgy or so [01:28] ls /dev/disk/by-* is nice too [01:31] nickrud_! where's your brother nickrud? [01:31] he's been disconnected by the remote host and is sulking [01:31] ah [01:31] nickrud_: no, by the peer [01:32] so go sic a ghost on 'im === nickrud_ is now known as nickrud [01:34] heh. been away for a while, some new names to the right [01:35] they're all clones of ubottu, nickrud [01:35] advance AI and all that stuff [01:35] heh [01:35] I'm sure they appreciate that identification ;) [01:36] It's cool to be a clone. [01:36] It's amazing how much work I get done when I keep irc off [01:36] nickrud: but don't call them n00bs although that's accurate, they get offended [01:37] nickrud: that's so true. [01:37] I wear that badge with pride. I hope never to lose my n00bness [01:40] bazhang: I'd move it to PM. [01:41] bamboo has quit () [01:41] I noticed, he quit after I said the above. [01:48] Just noticed/remembered that open week is this monday btw. [01:53] Hi. [01:53] Did someone ban me from -offtopic again? [01:54] you as in your host, or you as in your mibbit address? [01:54] Mibbit. My bnc died. [01:54] yes it's banned [01:54] Is mibbit banned? [01:55] no, you are [01:55] Why? [01:55] ompaul, 13 september [01:55] i haven't got a clue [01:55] is that the same as your other old bans? [01:55] were you using his name WastePotato [01:55] Hmm? [01:55] LjL: Oct 6 [01:56] seem to remember that being the case [01:56] Flannel: err no, sep 13 [01:56] bazhang, it was for ban evasion [01:56] LjL, aha [01:56] LjL: Um, that's a removal. Oct 6 is a ban [01:56] I'm so confused... [01:56] Flannel: no, check the banlist, it says sept 13 [01:57] WastePotato, it was a ban for ban evasion [01:57] LjL: I'm checking the bantracker [01:57] * WastePotato sighs [01:57] Flannel: don't. check the banlist. [01:57] WastePotato: don't start crying now [01:57] Nevermind... I'll wait until the BNC comes back on... [01:57] i've unbanned you [01:58] How did you know that I cry when people ban me from... [01:58] WastePotato: i have this seventh sense [01:58] xD [01:58] Right. Thanks, LjL [01:58] as is customary to say - "behave" [02:14] !private [02:14] Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude. [02:14] hmm [02:14] !encrypted [02:14] Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypted [02:15] !encrypted is For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [02:15] I'll remember that, Flannel [02:16] It also gets set up by default (if you choose) with the alternate CD [02:16] * Flannel doesn't know if we want to make the factoid longer [02:33] !drives [02:33] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [02:47] Good evening, morning, or afternoon [02:47] @login [02:47] The operation succeeded. [03:01] If I am going away for a few days should I be letting someone here know? [03:02] if you want to [03:04] nalioth: I just figured it was the responible thing to do. I'm not going to be near a computer til Mon evening or Tues morning. So conceivably if there's some op shortage already someone who perhaps wouldn't be here might show up , etc. Or at least thats my convoluted thought process. [03:05] Not that #kubuntu is a horror show which needs constant attention :) [03:05] In #ubuntu, scientes said: !paste is pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic), also you can do sudo apt-get install pastebinit [03:06] Hmm. Is there also !pastebinit ? [03:08] nalioth: Is special rights needed to modify factoids? [03:16] genii: not really [03:16] genii: you should have them [03:17] nalioth: I'll use it with discretion :) [03:42] In ubottu, genii said: !paste is pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic). A command-line alternative is pastebinit (see !pastebinit) [03:44] genii, try @login [03:44] hrm, seems you did... why.... [03:44] In ubottu, genii said: !pastebinit is pastebinit is a commandline alternative for using http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to install: sudo apt-get install pastebinit. Simple usage: dmesg | pastebinit or: pastebinit Report the URL it gives after this. [03:45] jussi01, ^ [03:45] Weird [03:45] he may need to be in the ops LP group [03:46] Well, if someone in that group thinks the suggested changes are appropriate please vet [03:47] genii: we usually do :) [03:51] Had a LAN fart. 1 minute === genii-2 is now known as genii [03:52] @login [03:52] The operation succeeded. [04:11] * genii puts on another pot of coffee to keep everyone alert [06:10] Are #kubuntu ops perhaps only allowed to edit kubuntu-specific factoids or so? [06:10] genii: I believe editing capabilities are editing capabilities. [06:11] Flannel: OK, thanks. [06:11] Flannel: Probably my syntax or something [06:12] !remember pastebinit is pastebinit is a commandline alternative for using http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to install: sudo apt-get install pastebinit. Simple usage: dmesg | pastebinit or: pastebinit Report the URL it gives after this. [06:12] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:12] Hm [06:13] !pastebinit is pastebinit is a commandline alternative for using http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to install: sudo apt-get install pastebinit. Simple usage: dmesg | pastebinit or: pastebinit Report the URL it gives after this. [06:13] In #ubuntu-ops, genii said: !pastebinit is pastebinit is a commandline alternative for using http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to install: sudo apt-get install pastebinit. Simple usage: dmesg | pastebinit or: pastebinit Report the URL it gives after this. [06:13] Bah [06:13] Sorry guys [06:14] Weird that it forwards it back to here [06:15] Is @ instead of ! perhaps ? [06:16] genii: Do @whoami [06:17] !pastebinit [06:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebinit [06:17] @whoami [06:17] genii [06:17] genii: Hmmm. It recognizes you, but you don't have edit capabilities apparently [06:18] OK. So not much then to do about it I guess [10:09] elkbuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ultamatix [10:10] elkbuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ultamatix&diff=248895209&oldid=239992396 [10:11] would someone please have a look at that, I've got better things to do today than to be on IRC and on the computer? KTHXBAI. [10:12] I looked, and giggled [10:13] * wgrant vomits. [10:27] elkbuntu: do you have shag on hilight? :p [10:27] Gary, no, 'elks' i do [10:27] lol [10:27] alongside 'elk' and 'elky' all are ways i get addressed reguarly [10:27] also elx [10:28] for the lazy people who cant be bothered typing 'elks' [10:28] i'll remember that [10:28] now what words have elx in them :p [10:29] i dont know. eleaf tried to claim innocence by describing eating 'elk steak' and drinking 'elk juice' [10:29] that latter one was ... um... i have no words for that. [10:29] interesting [10:29] thats the word [10:29] I tried to join #ubuntu but I am banned. May I be unbanned please? Thanks. [10:31] woden1, when was the last time you were there? [10:31] elkbuntu: I do not remember. [10:32] when was the last you can? [10:32] @login [10:32] The operation succeeded. [10:32] @btlogin [10:32] elkbuntu: I know I was able to go there before I left for Iraq. [10:33] woden1, who else shares your IP address? [10:33] woden1, what name were you using [10:34] woden1, and when was that? [10:34] I always use this name, woden or woden1. [10:34] That was in June when I left for Iraq. I just installed 8.10 and I want to ask some questions. [10:35] woden1, who shares your internet connection? [10:35] My entire family does. [10:36] And I also have an access point [10:36] woden1, who in your family goes by 'thunar' or 'thunar1'? [10:37] Oh damn, that's me. [10:37] Now I remember I got too drunk last night. I totally forgot [10:37] Let me see I think I typed rm -rf / [10:37] or somesuch [10:37] now I remember, yea [10:38] not quite, you told someone to dd random to their harddisk, and they almost did [10:38] you realise being drunk is not an excuse for that kind of behaviour, right? [10:39] yea I have no excuse! [10:39] !guidelines [10:39] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [10:39] * elkbuntu pokes the bot [10:39] alright I will go read that. [10:40] sorry [10:41] Mafioso_d: Send $199 to my pay-pal account to order Ubuntu. [10:42] at least Linux is holding up in the financial crisis [10:43] !guidelines [10:43] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [10:43] o.O [10:43] the bot hates me? [10:43] yay [10:52] lol [10:52] that thunar had some fancy ideas [10:52] kinnaz, how may we help you [10:53] bazhang not looking for help, just killing my time [10:53] !idle | kinnaz [10:53] kinnaz: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:53] i could come up with somekind of questio [10:53] if thats really needed [10:53] kinnaz, this is not the channel for that === kinnaz is now known as ubot4 [10:54] better ? [10:54] no [10:54] damn you evil person [11:01] ubot4: I think you are being asked to /part this channel [11:07] doubtful that all the idling non voices should be here either [11:07] but okey [11:07] if you want to be dick about it [11:07] i shall leave [11:30] Gary, watch that one. came into -women and said 'yay ubuntu chicks' [11:30] k2pp is what he's known as now [13:30] so does anyone actually know how the heck X is configured [13:31] * LjL wonders just what support he'll be able to give from now on, considering he isn't really going to install Intrepid [13:34] LjL: /etc/hal/ [13:34] systems >preferences > screen resolution seems to be the one LjL [13:34] bazhang: that's not very universal though, jrib probably is onto the real thing by the sound of it [13:35] :( [13:35] I had to setup my touchpad, I just looked at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi , read the hal spec, and created my onw in /etc/hal/ [13:35] jrib: wow, that's called making things easier compared to that crufty xorg.conf? ;P [13:36] it's ugly, editing xml in a text editor sucks [13:37] if you search xorg.conf man page for "hal" though, you get the option that lets you still configure input devices in xorg.conf [13:37] jrib: so anyway what's this hal business? i mean, i suppose it's not just an xorg specific thing (as i even have /etc/hal on my Hardy even though it's close to empty) [13:37] is there a whole new hardware management framework? [13:39] I am waiting for the wiki before I tell people to go into hal [13:39] LjL: I don't know much about it. All I know is that with hal and udev I can hotplug devices now [13:40] i've got this feeling we're too much out of touch with the developers [13:40] I couldn't find any good documentation really. I shouldn't have to go read the spec [13:41] jrib: well that might be because the wiki people are also out of touch with the developers, possibly [13:41] well try telling a new user they have to go into hal; that will not go down well methinks [13:42] bazhang: same as telling them to edit xorg.conf imo [13:42] bazhang: probably no better or worse than xorg.conf [13:42] problem is that i know how xorg.conf works, no idea about the hal stuff [13:42] exactly [13:42] thus the reason to wait for the wiki [13:42] assuming the wiki will ever have this stuff [13:42] LjL: devicekit is set to replace hal [13:43] perhaps the wiki people are "waiting for IRC support to know something about it" ;) [13:43] jrib: wait, wait, i barely know what hal even is yet, and there's something set to replace it? :o [13:43] haha [13:43] my head is now a confusion of hotplugudevhalxorgdevicekit... [13:44] give me the windows registry PLEASE! [13:44] you sound like domas from earlier :) [13:44] i guess i missed that one, but he's probably right :P [13:45] he was asking some really hard questions just to be a smarty-pants [13:45] some documentation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config [13:46] the !fixres is out date too [13:46] of [13:47] didn't know about xinput, hmm [13:54] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#xorg.conf [13:54] jrib: problem is, even though that's a wiki (as opposed to a help) page, it's still mostly a pasting of instructions, with only a very marginal high-level overview... [13:54] something for nvidia but ati is blank [13:55] jrib: for doing support, i need to have some of a global view - at a layman level because i'm really no more than the next user, but still some insight of how things are actually done, what depends on what, what the architecture is like [13:55] it feels like i'm less and less in touch with the "way things work" [13:56] not like i've started feeling this need *now*... [13:56] i had actually tried writing a wiki page "ubuntu architecture for dummies" (wasn't really called that) [13:56] that was long ago [13:57] how was it even called... [13:59] isn't open week coming up? [13:59] might be a good idea to ask for such a talk [13:59] LjL: [14:00] jrib: yes i was thinking about that [14:03] i feel too terrible today though for actually going around and having coherent talk with people [14:03] aww, ljl needs huggles? [14:04] elkbuntu: if you want to catch a cold [14:04] LjL, the internets protect me [14:04] * elkbuntu huggles ljl [14:04] aaaat [14:04] chum [14:04] I just tested a live usb and woo intrepid works for me :P [14:05] anyone happen to know how i could find a wiki page i created? [14:05] recently or? [14:06] no, years ago [14:07] * PriceChild waits for firefox to load [14:07] elkbuntu: my sister finally has working wireless by the way. perhaps unsurprisingly, it was a matter of setting DHCP instead of static addressing... [14:07] ibex is flawless here [14:08] both on desktop and eeepc [14:08] bazhang: tell me about the eeepc, there has to be *something* eeepc specific that doesn't work out of the box? [14:08] heh [14:09] LjL, well I spend a fair amount of time at the wiki at www.eeeuser.com [14:09] bazhang: i'm currently on ubuntu-eee but i'm not entirely fond of using custom kernels [14:09] LjL, aha [14:10] although even on the eeepc i have my doubts about whether or not to upgrade to intrepid... [14:10] for the same reason as on my desktop: lack of kde 3 [14:11] i'm on gnome on the eeepc right now but i'm not sure it'd stay that way [14:13] Fedora or Red-Hat administrators will now feel a bit more comfortable using Ubuntu as the service command they had been using to manage daemons is now standard on Ubuntu. In addition to the traditional sudo /etc/init.d/ [start|stop|restart] way of managing a process, it is now also possible to use sudo service [start|stop|restart]. [14:13] AAAGGH. whgat traditional *what*? you start a service with invoke-rc.d [14:15] jrib, bazhang: ha here it is, that page i wrote years ago https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KnowThyUbuntu - it's probably ridiculous itself but it should give an idea what i'd *like* to have [14:16] LjL, sweet; thanks [14:18] LjL, yeah, that's roflol [14:18] elkbuntu: my page? [14:18] 'we added another layer of abstraction, so you people who think you are it and a bit will feel more comfortable' [14:18] ah [14:18] LjL, no, the service thing [14:19] well "service" is shorter and easier than "invoke-rc.d" [14:19] it's not that bad imho [14:19] but saying that it replaces /etc/init.d is blasphemy [14:19] because you were *not* supposed to start services using "sudo /etc/init.d/" in the first place [14:24] fedora now has both root and user passwords [14:24] very ubuntu-like of late :) [14:25] err? having a root password is ubuntu-like? or are you being ironic? [14:25] yeah, my boss gave up on ubuntu and fled to centos [14:26] errr, [14:26] s/ubuntu/fedora/ [14:26] i need bed [14:26] i think he's worded it wrong [14:32] LjL, sorry, meant about the separate user pass [14:32] most of the stuff in fedora now is with that one password and not the root pass === pslayer2 is now known as pleia2 [15:49] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MTecknology said: !links is Do NOT post links to Jaunty ISO files before an official release announcement is made. These files are not the final release and will cause confusion. Doing so will get you removed from the channel. [15:49] !links [15:49] Do NOT post links to Gutsy ISO files before an official release announcement is made. These files are not the final release and will cause confusion. Doing so will get you removed from the channel. [15:49] !forget links [15:49] I'll forget that, PriceChild [15:50] jauntu already? wow [15:51] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [16:00] In ubottu, Dorward said: !no, html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://opera.com/wsc/ [16:02] !html [16:02] html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/ [16:02] *shrug* i don't know [16:06] grr sivaji isn't new to abusing the bot is he [16:09] jrib: he wants to get jrid of you [16:09] haha [17:14] woden1, how may we help you [17:14] Can I request to be unbanned? [17:15] woden1, you were using the nick thunar or thunar1? [17:15] Yes [17:16] It's my first offense. Can I just get a warning? I'm sorry I won't do it again. [17:17] woden1, you were asking others to send you money via paypal? [17:17] No. [17:17] Definitely no. [17:17] Where did that come from? [17:17] lol [17:17] Mafioso_d: Send $199 to my pay-pal account to order Ubuntu. [17:18] No that is not me, I swear. [17:18] that was not you? [17:18] Nope. I'm being honest. [17:18] same ip address [17:18] Wait [17:18] Now I remember [17:18] Yea I guess I did say that [17:18] lol [17:18] not funny [17:18] Weird, I didn't even remember until you posted the exact text. [17:18] You are right, and I have no excuse. [17:19] Honestly it was out of character for me. I've never done anything like that before. [17:21] What do you think? Yay, Nay? [17:21] the person who banned you is not around woden1 [17:22] you will need to speak with them [17:22] Hrm [17:22] Alright [17:22] 5 [17:22] please read these two links [17:22] Well, I don't even know who banned me, but I'd like to know so I can request to be unbanned. [17:22] [Thu Oct 30 2008] [19:20:56] Mafioso_d: Send $199 to my pay-pal account to order Ubuntu. [17:22] [Thu Oct 30 2008] [19:23:44] Ubuntu rocks! Ubuntu sucks! Ubuntu exists! Ubuntu is dead! Yea! [17:22] [Thu Oct 30 2008] [19:25:12] su [17:22] [Thu Oct 30 2008] [19:25:13] rm -rf / [17:22] [Thu Oct 30 2008] [19:25:58] jwoo: yes, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda [17:22] can you, like, explain *all* of those? [17:22] !coc | woden1 [17:22] woden1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [17:23] !guidelines | woden1 [17:23] woden1: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [17:23] I read both of those earlier today when I came here. [17:23] Thanks for the link. [17:23] but you just said that it was not you. You Swore. [17:23] You mean the paypal thing? [17:23] Yes. [17:24] I totally forgot [17:24] I really didn't think that was me, because I forgot completely that I said that. [17:24] ly forgot about the rest of what you said that i quoted, too? [17:24] woden1: people that have blackouts and forget their behavior are not good candidates for polite and reasoned discourse on IRC. [17:24] No, the other part about rm -rf / and dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda I remembered all of that and admitted to it upfront. [17:25] mneptok: I agree with you [17:26] This is my first offense, I've never done anything like that before. [17:26] woden1: so then what would you suggest? [17:26] mneptok: Well it's hard for me to say because I am not working in your position and I don't see everything that you see. [17:27] I guess...at the worst a time-limited ban? At the best, a warning and an immediate lift of the ban? [17:28] woden1: your ban is time-limited, is suspect. but be prepared for that limit to be somewhat higher than you would prefer. [17:28] s/is/i/ [17:29] Okay well like I said earlier, I have no excuse for what I did and I am sorry and it won't happen again. [17:29] and a ban is 100% certain and justifiable when you are sending commands that will destroy someone's installation [17:30] "rm -rf /" ain't quite the same as screaming "poopy!" [17:30] mneptok: Yes [17:30] I agree [17:31] great. so we're in agreement, and you will wait patiently until the person who placed the ban is confident the behavior will not be repeated. [17:31] I have no other choice [17:31] Okay well see you guys later. Thanks for doing what you do. [17:31] another satisfied customer. [17:43] sigh, why the heck do people do stuff like that? [17:44] cuz they're 12 years old and think it's funny [17:47] I guess I'll never understand the inner workings of their minds... I can't imagine how destroying other peoples' data can be funny [17:57] he did say he'd been to iraq, or did I miss something? [18:03] "Oh, how to put that on your holster? Just pull out the little pin thing on the top and *BOOOOOM* hahaha just joking" [18:05] "I'm sorry I ordered subordinates to give me their rations, but that's all I did. Why am I not allowed on the practice range? Oh, right. There was that grenade thing. I forgotted." [18:28] mneptok: heh he's now in #ubuntu-devel asking his question. Hopefully this doesn't go down too badly :) [18:30] f14:27 < Chipzz> woden1: not a support channel [18:30] 14:29 < woden1> Well I was wondering if Ubuntu could "develop" a way to make it so that internal NTFS drives are automatically mounted at boot? [18:30] well.... A for effort. [18:32] left. [19:24] hi, I'm trying to join #kubuntu and I keep getting redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users because I'm using CGI:IRC. is it not allowed? [19:25] hagebake: please follow the helpful robots instructions there :) [19:25] it only grants me temporary permission to #ubuntu, but i'm trying to join #kubuntu [20:34] hagebake: you can join now [21:13] ah, thanks [21:18] hello all! [21:18] hagebake: anything else you need? [21:18] EEEK! [21:18] hehe [21:18] * jussi01 hugs nalioth [21:18] that'll give you eeek! [21:18] speaking of hugs [21:18] :D [21:46] !idle | hagebake [21:46] hagebake: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [21:48]