[00:29] hi everyone I have an encrypted private directory question. I use it in gnome and have 2 scripts mount/unmount that mount it on my desktop. in xubunutu (xfce) it shows up in my home, but not on desktop. Am I missing something or can I just use the folder in my home? [00:30] you can use the folder in home or mount it to ~/Desktop [00:32] When I click my mount or unmount scripts I use in Gnome, they do nothing in xfce. any ideas? I will just use the one in home, but am curious [00:33] hi, all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my iMac G3 (with the correct processor type), but I can't seem to get the CD-ROM drive mounted. Is this a problem with anyone else, or is it just one with old macs? [00:33] hard to say without seeing the scripts - it "should" work the same in both [00:33] okay. [00:33] ceafu: ^ [00:34] and... is the drive an IDE or SCSI? [00:34] ok cool. thanks for info. [00:34] stweston: tried asking in #ubuntu-ppc? [00:34] no, I haven't. [00:34] they should know [00:35] don't you mean, #ubuntu-powerpc? [00:35] stewston, sorry to but in, are you having an issue booting off of the cd? [00:35] and sorry for name typo [00:35] somewhat. I booted fine under Server, but not previously under Xubuntu. [00:35] stweston: #ubuntu-ppc will link to there [00:35] oh. I'm already there, then... [00:35] favro: thanks. [00:36] np [00:36] i am a mac user and i had to boot with a nosplash command or something like that... [00:36] oh! [00:36] on a ppc ibook [00:36] acpi=nosplash i do not recall exactly [00:36] oh. I see... well, this is Server that I"m tyring now... [00:36] oops. my bad. good luck anyways. [00:36] yeah. thanks! [00:36] it's for my brother's birthday coming next month, so... [00:37] I know - what an odd present to give, right? [00:37] ANYWAY... [00:37] thanks, again! [00:38] wait... where exactly would the CD drive be located under the filesystem on a mac? or is that the same too? [00:39] stweston: On MacOS X? [00:39] no, under Linux. [00:39] /dev/cdrom [00:39] normally [00:39] hm... [00:39] it's not loading like that, though. [00:40] /dev/cdrom0 maybe [00:40] all right. I'll try that. [00:40] nope. [00:40] /media/cdrom [00:40] okay. will try. [00:42] hm... neither /media/cdrom nor /media/cdrom0 work. [00:42] does it have any PC card(s) that need servicing? [00:42] stweston: dmesg|grep cdrom [00:42] ball: how would I use that, exactly? [00:43] ball: just the same place as I would type in /dev/cdrom and such? [00:43] That depends. Where are you typing in /dev/cdrom? [00:43] in a window that says "[!!] Detect and Mount CD-ROM" at the top [00:44] sorry for the vagueness... [00:44] try in a terminal dmesg|grep cdrom [00:44] okay. [00:45] so, what is it I'm supposed to see? [00:45] anything about the "kernel command line"? [00:46] lines from the dmesg showing cdrom - if there are errors or ... [00:46] I see one line, including a directory that starts with file=/cdrom/... [00:46] would it be that? [00:47] and if so, what would I do with that information? [00:47] if that is the only line try browsing to that dir [00:47] okay... [00:47] will do [00:47] and see what's there [00:48] I tried an ls of the directory, but no such dir. [00:49] didn't think that would show - you need some ppc specific help I'm afraid [00:50] oh. I see. [00:50] thanks, anyway, though! [00:50] wait - what should I maybe ask? [00:50] about the current situation, I mean. [00:51] I'd start of with asking for a link to install xubuntu on the g3 [00:51] all right... [00:51] read the topic in the ppc channel as well [00:52] all right. [00:52] found it! [00:52] methinks. [00:52] yup. [00:53] but this is where I got the server install for this current CD. [00:54] so tell the ppc channel that and ask about the cd drive not showing [00:54] okay. [01:32] hola guys [01:32] hey [01:32] i have xubuntu 8.04 installed with wubi [01:32] can i dist-upgrade it? [01:33] sorry... I at least can't help you. My guess is that it would be a yes, but you should check with the experts. [01:33] i mean [01:33] i tried [01:33] but for some reason it doesn't work [01:34] hardy is lts - you need to deselect the lts only box in the update manager [01:34] http://mibbit.com/pb/kwkayb [01:34] ohh ok [01:35] can i do it with update manager too? lemme try :) [01:47] so [01:48] do i have to change repository to do the dist-upgrade? [01:50] nope [01:50] !upgrade [01:50] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes === christophersen__ is now known as christophersen [01:51] can i do it from wubi right? [01:52] I've never used wubi but can't see why not - it is still xubuntu [01:52] k [01:52] lets try, thanks [01:53] luck [01:53] np, this is just my test laptop [01:53] later [02:02] is anyone here? [02:02] nope :) [02:03] ask away TaffinFoxcroft [02:04] my xubuntu install doesn't want to recognise my 2nd internal HDD. is there any way of getting xubuntu to see it? [02:04] does it show up in sudo fdisk -l run in terminal? [02:05] it does, but i'm a complete linux noob [02:06] nope [02:06] we all started as noobs [02:06] TaffinFoxcroft: it will be called something like /dev/sdb1 or similar - yes? [02:07] yes, by the looks of it [02:07] can you copy the relevant line to here? [02:07] ok [02:08] /dev/sdb1 * 1 4864 39070048+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [02:08] so, I'm trying (again) to install Server on that iMac from earlier; would anyone care to help? [02:09] I'm taking that as a no. [02:10] in terminal do sudo mkdir /media/stuff && sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/stuff - you can of course use a diff name then stuff [02:10] TaffinFoxcroft: ^ [02:10] i pasted it, its a line below "ok" [02:11] stweston: I ran out of ideas... [02:11] favro: oh. right. [02:11] TaffinFoxcroft: that was a command to run in the terminal [02:11] favro: well, could you please remind me what we had covered? It's been a bit since I last tried... [02:11] favro: about an hour at least. [02:12] favro: oops, that slipped past... [02:12] make that an hour & 45 mins. [02:12] stweston: you couldn't find the cdrom right - and I suggested the ppc channel - you might need to wait for them to wake up [02:12] favro: yeah. good point... how long til that happens? [02:13] stweston: at a guess I would say 4-6 hours maybe - I would ask a question and check maybe hourly [02:13] shoot... I'll be in bed by then. [02:14] it was just a guess [02:14] okay... I don't suppose you know how to list things by pressing the spacebar or whatever to scroll down in the Terminal, do you? [02:14] TaffinFoxcroft: did the command run ok? [02:14] or if anyone does. [02:14] stweston: list what sort of things? [02:15] favro: long lists and such. like, instead of three columns, 1 or whatever... I'm trying 'ls /dev' in the installer. [02:15] favro: yes, thanks for the help. [02:15] try ls | less [02:15] okay. [02:15] stweston: ^ [02:16] gotcha [02:16] hit enter for more [02:16] I don't understand, exactly... sorry [02:17] the | is the \ button, right? [02:17] only with shift? [02:17] ls /dev | less will fill the page and stop - you have a read - hit enter to read more [02:17] oh [02:17] the | is shift+\ here [02:17] yes. exactly. [02:18] thanks! [02:18] TaffinFoxcroft: you can have that disk mounted at boot if you want with a little work [02:19] favro: really? [02:19] so, what exactly am I supposed to type? I keep getting "less: not found" [02:19] TaffinFoxcroft: yep - it involves adding one line to the file /etc/fstab [02:19] favro: ^ [02:19] cool. [02:19] where can i get this line? [02:19] stweston: try ls /dev | more then [02:19] okay. [02:20] TaffinFoxcroft: we can make it now [02:20] aha! [02:20] thanks! [02:20] sweet. [02:20] TaffinFoxcroft: in terminal type gksu mousepad /etc/fstab [02:20] question... what should I look for in terms of the CD drive? what kind of devices? [02:21] yep, now what? [02:21] TaffinFoxcroft: add the line /dev/sdb1 /media/stuff ntfs-3g defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [02:22] stweston: here it is only listed as cdrom or cdrom0 [02:22] hm.... [02:22] I'll look. [02:23] wow. this really stinks... [02:23] stweston: you can do ls /dev | grep cdrom or whatever you are looking for [02:23] all right. [02:23] grep means find lines with the following word in them [02:24] all right [02:24] it's recognizing the ports and peripherals and such, but no CD-R drive! [02:24] this *really* doesn't make much sense. [02:25] stweston: the prob here is that the ppc architecture might list things diff - and I don't know if the linux commands work the same with it [02:25] they prolly do, but not with the same devices, methinks. [02:25] just saying. [02:25] k [02:27] stweston: do you have a /cdrom folder - ls /cdrom [02:27] hm... [02:27] nope [02:27] TaffinFoxcroft: then you save the file and close it [02:27] favro: one quick question: how do you delete a directory in terminal? [02:28] stweston: a /dvd folder [02:28] lemme check. [02:28] and i saved and rebooted it, and its working fine [02:28] no such file or directory... I guess /cdrom has one, but it just has nothing in it. [02:28] TaffinFoxcroft: sudo rm -r if it is a system file rm -r if it is in your home folder [02:28] ok, thanks [02:29] stweston: is there a cd in the drive? [02:29] wait - doesn't RM do something bad? [02:29] favro: yes. [02:29] favro: it wouldn't boot from anything else. [02:29] favro: well, this or OS X. [02:29] stweston: you can get a ban if you suggest sudo rm -r / [02:29] favro: oh. I see. [02:31] favro: what does it do, exactly? [02:31] stweston: there's a cd in the drive but the system doesn't see it right/ - that is why I was suggesting a ppc channel [02:31] favro: aah. [02:31] stweston: it will delete the system files and render it useless [02:31] favro: what about #ubuntu? [02:31] favro: I see. [02:31] you could try [02:31] in #ubuntu [02:31] all right. I will. [02:31] luck [02:32] yup [02:32] thanks [02:32] np :) [03:05] Is there any truth to the rumour that it's possible to turn Ubuntu into Xubuntu? [03:06] I believe so, ball [03:07] stweston [03:07] oops [03:07] thanks. [03:07] yup [03:13] Okay, trying that through Synaptic [03:14] It will be interesting to see what happens. [03:17] That reminds me, I need to validate my launchpad login [03:21] ...and eat more cake [03:26] ball: install xubuntu-desktop [03:26] and you got xubuntu! :D [03:27] Odd-rationale: that didn't take long to download at all. I'm guessing I have to reboot now [03:28] ball: nope. just log out... and choose xfce from the gdm sessions menu :P [03:29] Okay. brb (hopefully) [03:43] I was wondering if anyone can help me out with some video issues I'm having? [03:47] yeah, I broke it. [03:49] Is it difficult to install (or enable) sshd? [03:51] installation is easy, configuration is another story [03:53] Perhaps I should resort to VNC then [03:54] It just depends on what you want it to do. I just set it up so I can connect to my linux machines for command line. [03:55] That would be a start. [03:55] hey guys I'm wondering what the minimum system requirements are for 8.10 xubuntu [03:55] It gets tricky when working with the public key authentication. If you don't want to do that then installation will take less than 3 min [03:55] I'm using the alternate install disk [03:55] alguien habla español? [03:56] necesito un empujon :( [03:56] tdizzle86: what's the drill? [03:56] hola hunk_ [03:56] hola [03:56] que suerte [03:56] tengo un problemilla [03:56] Do you want to use synaptic, or want to do it from the command line [03:56] mira que se me han desaparecido las barras de mi xubuntu :( [03:57] mande un alt + F2 -> xfce4 panel y las recupero [03:57] tdizzle86: whiever is quicker [03:57] pero en cuanto cierro mi ses. se me desaparecen :( [03:57] hunk_'s XFCE bars seem to have dissappeared (the top/bottom ones), that's his problem [03:57] hunk_: que es un ses? [03:57] Is it xfce-desktop that provides those? [03:58] session [03:58] ses [03:58] ses = session [03:58] xfce-session? [03:58] mi session de usuario (reinicio) [03:58] he says he does alt +f2 and does xfce4-panel and he gets them back [03:58] cuando reinicio se me vuelven a desaparecer, entonces tengo que volver a ejecutar "xfce4-panel" para que me aparezcan [03:58] but as soon as he closes his session they disappear again [03:59] anyone think they can help him? I'm just translating [03:59] I'll help interpreting, I don't mind [04:00] :( [04:00] Hi, does anyone know what it means when my caps lock blinks when the system is loading (or sometimes when it is already loaded)? Whenever it blinks the system appears to be in a hard freeze. [04:00] ball type this in the command line, "sudo apt-get openssh-server" [04:01] tdizzle86: okay, I'll run to the study and try that now [04:01] anything I need to do after it's installed? [04:01] No, I don't believe so [04:02] you may want to get the client too "sudo apt-get install openssh-client [04:04] can someone please tell me what the minimum system requirements for xubuntu are? I find it ironic that they aren't found anywhere yet it's considered the one for 'lower-end/older PCs' [04:04] hang on a sec, I'll see if I can find them [04:04] thank you tdizzle86 [04:06] Blaenk: Minimum system requirements To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM. To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk. Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM. [04:06] Hmm. That's pretty steep for the DSL of Ubuntu, isn't it? [04:07] thank you tdizzle86 [04:07] lol, I think I got it to run with 128MB of Ram [04:08] I think the box has 256, I hope so [04:08] I've checked the CD, and there's no errors. On a likely related note, my Windows install has suddenly also seemed to go bonkers (BSOD: PAGE FILE IN NON PAGED AREA). It was running fine yesterday. Any suggestions on what I should try first, or what might be causing this? [04:09] Have you tried a memory test? [04:09] Hmm, no. [04:10] I just got it back from service, they said they replaced the memory. [04:10] I just do that through the LiveCD, right? [04:11] yes it should have memtest on there [04:11] Alright, I'll try that, thanks [04:11] tdizzle86: that enabled me to ssh in and run Xclients, so thanks.' [04:11] Your welcome [04:12] It would be nice if I could somehow bring up :0 (on the Xubuntu box) as a window (on another box), but I imagine that's non-trivial [04:36] I fell asleep [04:42] has anyone else installed the gsynaptics touchpad control panel? i did so, via synaptic, and there is no icon in the xfce settings manager, just the text "Synaptics settings" (which, lacking an icon, sits aligned to the top of the row, rather than the bottom) [04:42] hello hat0 [04:42] hi ball [04:44] another question -- is there an equivalent to displayconfig-gtk in 8.10? (if it's in a package, which package?) [04:44] * ball grins, having just launched xfce4-panel attached to MacOS X [04:49] Can up upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 from the command line (or from a menu)? [04:55] join #ubuntu-uk [04:55] oops, sorry [05:47] hello guys [05:48] i have just burned an xubuntu 8.10 copy [05:48] how can i upgrade may existing 8.04 to 8.10 using the cd instead [05:48] nonie, it would have to be the alternative cd [05:49] i have the alternate cd, how can i do the upgrade? [05:51] Pop the cd in [05:51] and tada! [05:51] kewl, thanks . i did an upgrade in the office but i did it online [05:52] its a long process, i never had rebooted the machine coz i have [05:52] to go home that time. [05:53] thnks for the help. [05:54] :) [05:54] np [06:11] does xubuntu include an easy way to see current disk usage? (not just current free space)? [06:15] where can I find the deb files that was downloaded during the synaptic installation? [07:25] zerothis: you could try conky [07:35] hi... just like to comment that i love the new xubuntu.org site [07:35] :-) === jNoxx is now known as SatansLaptopOwne === SatansLaptopOwne is now known as SatansLaptop === SatansLaptop is now known as jNoxx [09:03] hello [09:04] !hi [09:04] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [09:05] Is it possible to disable the sasseion-saving completely? I don't want this dialog which asks me if I want to continue a new session or start a new one. I want a new session every time I log in (I want to start with a "blank screen") and it shuldn't save the session. [09:05] sasseion-saving => session-saving [09:05] uvok: settings->setting manager->sessions and startup [09:05] uvok: there is an option to disable it [09:07] TheSheep, Which options should I disable? The 1st and the 2nd? [09:07] uvok: probably, they all have descriptions if you hold the mouse cursor over them [09:15] TheSheep, Thanks. I tried it before, but it didn't work then. Now it worked. (Maybe because I crossed the "Sve session" button on the logout-screen....) [09:16] ... the last time i tried [09:16] possible [09:16] uvok: if you have any trouble with saved sessions, just delete the ~/.cache/sessions direcotory [09:16] directory [09:16] that will give you a fresh start with them [09:17] thanks, i'll try [11:18] hi [11:19] I just upgraded to intrepid but I can't get X working with dual monitors.. I was using nvidia drivers with twinview, but since nvidia drivers do not work with X I have to use nv, I reckon it does not support twinview so I would have to use xinerama, correct so far? [11:32] sounds right whyking__ === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [12:07] Ok, How do I format and use floppy disk in 8.10? [12:08] there is no even device in /dev/ [12:11] I am using 64-bit xubuntu 8.10 [12:11] and in order to update MB bios i need to write it to the FD [12:12] does it show in sudo fdisk -l ? [12:15] favro, NO [12:16] in lsusb maybe? [12:16] it seems that there is nothing like *fd* in /dev [12:16] it is not usb device, favro [12:16] oops a floppy [12:16] yes. Ordinary plain floppy [12:17] Obviously not supported by kernel in 8.10... or by system.. [12:17] here the floppy is listed in /dev/fd [12:17] no it is not [12:17] its not floppy [12:18] i tried to link it or mount it [12:19] it sirectory containing links .. 0 -> /dev/pts/0 [12:19] what`s that? ... [12:20] I added gnome--utils and gfloppy is saying: Cannot initialize device Unable to open any device, formatting cannot continue. [12:22] favro [12:22] I did sudo modprobe floppy [12:23] I now have floppy device in /dev/fd0 [12:23] But I don`t know after restart.. [12:23] I also need to change manually /etc/fstab.. [12:24] try this - /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 [12:25] after modprobe an changing fstab, icon appears on desktop [12:25] I added /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [12:25] also it complains that i need to make mountpoint.. [12:25] mkdir /media/floppy0 [12:26] yes. And now I opened it from desktop icon. [12:26] Finaly [12:26] :) [12:27] So, conclusion is that someone screwed up floppy support in 8.10 [12:27] and there is a reason to file a bug report. ;) [12:27] !launchpad [12:27] Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [12:28] I wonder how many developers still have machines with floppy drives [12:31] ball, better to think about.. how many Users with old machines has floppy drives.. [12:31] Maybe all of them with older machines [12:32] I haven't used a floppy since win98 [12:33] nikolam: right, but if the developers don't then it becomes hard for them to test. [12:34] ...and I haven't built a machine with a flopy drive for years. [12:34] I might still have some 5.25" drives somewhere though. [12:34] anyway, i will post a bug [12:35] sunce most of xubuntu users at least, wants them in their older machines [12:35] And xubuntu is mostly for that etc.. [12:36] Ok, Su All got to go flashing bios [12:40] I would happily run Xubuntu on a brand new machine. [12:54] I'm stuck at the 'Cleaning up' stage of the upgrade and I'm not sure how best to proceed. === silver is now known as Guest643 === Guest643 is now known as tsillbill [13:40] hi [13:41] Hai [13:41] hmm [13:42] Hmm? [13:42] I thought i need help but now i dont need help :D man i love xubuntu [13:42] Haha [13:42] :p [13:42] I only switched from straight Ubuntu today [13:43] The only thing I don't like is the inability to turn touchpad clicks off, it's annoying [13:43] oh i need help still :D how can i see my computers on my local network :D [13:43] <_sebastian_> hi all, just wanted to make a new clean install of xub but all options I tried hang when starting gnome-desktop manager - can anyone help? [13:43] tsillbill: Good point, I can't see mine either. :P [13:44] i did seen ubuntu but not in xubuntu [13:44] Ah [13:44] Might be because I haven't yet set up smbclient [13:45] tsillbill: You can set it up in Shared Folders [13:46] ok my new at this linux stuff so were is shared folders :D [13:46] Applications -> System -> Shared Folders [13:47]