| Ahmuck | it's there now. however i've done a "sudo aptitude update" "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and then a "sudo ltsp-build-client" since the install | 00:06 |
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| Ahmuck | i have noticed that when i do a ltsp-build-client it downloads a large number of new packages | 00:08 |
| Ahmuck | hrm, when ltsp client fails, it also fails to configure the second nic for serving dhcp ltsp clients | 00:49 |
| Ahmuck | i'm falling back to ubuntu | 00:49 |
| Ahmuck | i was under the impression that ltsp-server, client, etc. configured that | 00:49 |
| sbalneav | Evening all | 01:25 |
| Ahmuck | hi sbalneav | 01:27 |
| Rideh | heya | 01:27 |
| stgraber | hi Rideh | 01:28 |
| Rideh | hey stgraber ! | 01:29 |
| Rideh | i'll be back in a few minutes | 01:29 |
| davidgroos | Hi--anyone have any opinions about good edubuntu classroom management software? | 02:40 |
| stgraber | iTalc ? | 02:40 |
| davidgroos | That's cool, I was looking at that. | 02:40 |
| davidgroos | I'd also heard of something like samoyan | 02:41 |
| davidgroos | or something | 02:41 |
| davidgroos | unfortunately I can't remember the name of the software exactly and haven't had luck googling 'samoyan' samboyan etc. | 02:44 |
| davidgroos | Not sounding familiar to anyone? | 02:44 |
| stgraber | not really no, the only thing that I can think of based on that name is sabayon but it's not really a classroom management software so I doubt it's what you are looking for | 02:46 |
| davidgroos | hmmm maybe I misunderstood what was being described--the name is too similar to be a coincidence, I think. Thanks stgraber for throwing it out there! | 02:48 |
| davidgroos | I'm going to check it out! | 02:48 |
| davidgroos | Another question--I'm just starting a project where I'll be using edubuntu thin clients and need an easy way to import users from some csv or other formate file. | 02:50 |
| davidgroos | I was totally unable to find software to load users into the ubuntu server. Any ideas here? | 02:50 |
| stgraber | a shell script parsing that file and doing the adduser is certainly the easiest, though if you have a lot of user and may need to split them across two servers soon, having a LDAP server may be best (then use some LDAP tools to add the users) | 02:51 |
| davidgroos | Cool info! I'm really quite a noob at this so what is obvious to you is an insight to me! | 02:52 |
| davidgroos | I've got a friend who could write a script like this, I'd guess. Anything in particular I should tell him? | 02:53 |
| stgraber | yeah, add the user to the same groups as a normal user (from a desktop installation) except adm and admin | 02:54 |
| stgraber | so they can have sound and everything working correctly but can't run sudo | 02:54 |
| stgraber | oh, and for LTSP, you'll need to add them to the "fuse" group too to have usbkey support | 02:55 |
| davidgroos | Thanks so much stgraber. I've put some stuff on line about my project but wonder if I put the info in the right place--should I be using an edubuntu wiki instead of the Ubuntu wiki? | 02:57 |
| davidgroos | Here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/Education | 02:58 |
| stgraber | davidgroos: oh, I'll send that URL to some guys at the office, they might be interested and may give you a hand. | 02:59 |
| stgraber | I'm working for a company that does thin clients and desktop deployement mainly in school districts | 02:59 |
| davidgroos | That would be awesome! which state? | 03:00 |
| stgraber | We're in Canada (Quebec) and have some school districts here in Canada and one in Indiana | 03:01 |
| stgraber | and another in the US IIRC | 03:01 |
| davidgroos | I would love to share ideas--though I enjoy and am ok w/ technology my specialty is teaching. | 03:01 |
| davidgroos | my e-mail is djgroos@gmail.com | 03:02 |
| stgraber | ok, mine is stgraber@revolutionlinux.com (or stgraber@ubuntu.com for the Ubuntu community side :)) and my company is http://www.revolutionlinux.com/?lang=en | 03:03 |
| Rideh | stgraber: this channel is much more free with info than your typical irc channel :D | 03:04 |
| davidgroos | I know very little about irc protocol and appreciate clear instruction on such! | 03:05 |
| davidgroos | Thanks so much to all you who are helping get these great open source solutions into kids hands. | 03:13 |
| davidgroos | I expect to be on this channel quite a bit :-) | 03:13 |
| Rideh | davidgroos: irc has been around a very long time | 03:16 |
| Rideh | many "script kiddies" and such roam and use this as a play ground to flex their skills | 03:17 |
| Rideh | things are becomming more civil but still be cognosent that like anywhere there are always ppl with ill intentions lurking | 03:17 |
| Ahmuck | any suggestions for a "burn in" linux iso? | 03:18 |
| davidgroos | Thanks Rideh. I searched script kiddies and so they could use e-mail addresses? Or the worry would be some lurker noting the address then | 03:21 |
| Rideh | nah email address is just a email address but you might get unnecessary hassle | 03:22 |
| davidgroos | e-mailing me off line purporting to help but getting info to do otherwise? Or am I missing something? | 03:22 |
| Rideh | anything | 03:22 |
| davidgroos | Right. Thanks. | 03:22 |
| stgraber | my e-mail addresses are already on all existing spammer list (my server gets around 40k spams a day) so one more place isn't really a problem :) | 03:24 |
| Rideh | stgraber: wasnt really directed at you, i'm fairly confident your aware of irc's roots | 03:25 |
| Rideh | davidgroos: just mentioned hes new to irc | 03:26 |
| Rideh | such a good resource hate to see ppl turned away from it because of bs | 03:26 |
| stgraber | right | 03:27 |
| stgraber | davidgroos: http://blog.revolutionlinux.com/en/post/2008/10/28/T-L-2008-%3A-Thin-Client-Lab-Setup | 03:30 |
| stgraber | good example of what you can do with LTSP and localapps + a lot of people from various school districts were T+L and used (maybe without knowing) thin clients while attending conferences in that room | 03:32 |
| davidgroos | Thanks, I'll check it out! | 03:32 |
| sbalneav | ls | 03:50 |
| sbalneav | whoops | 03:50 |
| Ahmuck | if i use the server for my main pc will i still be able to serve 8 clients from it? | 04:00 |
| Ahmuck | wrong question. can i use a quad-core, 4g ram server for my use and still serve 8 clients comfortablly? | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | Ahmuck: Should be able to with no problem. | 04:02 |
| * Ahmuck grumbles the server boards don't come with sound | 04:03 | |
| Ahmuck | vanilla ubuntu ltsp server install on a board with two nics won't connect to the inet unless one goes in and unremarks the dhcp line in /etc/network/interfaces | 04:06 |
| sbalneav | Well, typically, an LTSP server doesn't have the "internet" side as a DHCP interface. | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | Servers should have fixed IP interfaces. | 04:07 |
| Ahmuck | ah. yes | 04:08 |
| Ahmuck | it fixes eth1 as the static, so is it serving eth0 ? | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | Well, eth1's probably managed by network manager, which you should set as a static interface as well. | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | Usually, in a server environment. | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | Well, late here, heading to bed. | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | Night all | 04:15 |
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