[00:06] it's there now. however i've done a "sudo aptitude update" "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and then a "sudo ltsp-build-client" since the install [00:08] i have noticed that when i do a ltsp-build-client it downloads a large number of new packages [00:49] hrm, when ltsp client fails, it also fails to configure the second nic for serving dhcp ltsp clients [00:49] i'm falling back to ubuntu [00:49] i was under the impression that ltsp-server, client, etc. configured that [01:25] Evening all [01:27] hi sbalneav [01:27] heya [01:28] hi Rideh [01:29] hey stgraber ! [01:29] i'll be back in a few minutes [02:40] Hi--anyone have any opinions about good edubuntu classroom management software? [02:40] iTalc ? [02:40] That's cool, I was looking at that. [02:41] I'd also heard of something like samoyan [02:41] or something [02:44] unfortunately I can't remember the name of the software exactly and haven't had luck googling 'samoyan' samboyan etc. [02:44] Not sounding familiar to anyone? [02:46] not really no, the only thing that I can think of based on that name is sabayon but it's not really a classroom management software so I doubt it's what you are looking for [02:48] hmmm maybe I misunderstood what was being described--the name is too similar to be a coincidence, I think. Thanks stgraber for throwing it out there! [02:48] I'm going to check it out! [02:50] Another question--I'm just starting a project where I'll be using edubuntu thin clients and need an easy way to import users from some csv or other formate file. [02:50] I was totally unable to find software to load users into the ubuntu server. Any ideas here? [02:51] a shell script parsing that file and doing the adduser is certainly the easiest, though if you have a lot of user and may need to split them across two servers soon, having a LDAP server may be best (then use some LDAP tools to add the users) [02:52] Cool info! I'm really quite a noob at this so what is obvious to you is an insight to me! [02:53] I've got a friend who could write a script like this, I'd guess. Anything in particular I should tell him? [02:54] yeah, add the user to the same groups as a normal user (from a desktop installation) except adm and admin [02:54] so they can have sound and everything working correctly but can't run sudo [02:55] oh, and for LTSP, you'll need to add them to the "fuse" group too to have usbkey support [02:57] Thanks so much stgraber. I've put some stuff on line about my project but wonder if I put the info in the right place--should I be using an edubuntu wiki instead of the Ubuntu wiki? [02:58] Here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/Education [02:59] davidgroos: oh, I'll send that URL to some guys at the office, they might be interested and may give you a hand. [02:59] I'm working for a company that does thin clients and desktop deployement mainly in school districts [03:00] That would be awesome! which state? [03:01] We're in Canada (Quebec) and have some school districts here in Canada and one in Indiana [03:01] and another in the US IIRC [03:01] I would love to share ideas--though I enjoy and am ok w/ technology my specialty is teaching. [03:02] my e-mail is djgroos@gmail.com [03:03] ok, mine is stgraber@revolutionlinux.com (or stgraber@ubuntu.com for the Ubuntu community side :)) and my company is http://www.revolutionlinux.com/?lang=en [03:04] stgraber: this channel is much more free with info than your typical irc channel :D [03:05] I know very little about irc protocol and appreciate clear instruction on such! [03:13] Thanks so much to all you who are helping get these great open source solutions into kids hands. [03:13] I expect to be on this channel quite a bit :-) [03:16] davidgroos: irc has been around a very long time [03:17] many "script kiddies" and such roam and use this as a play ground to flex their skills [03:17] things are becomming more civil but still be cognosent that like anywhere there are always ppl with ill intentions lurking [03:18] any suggestions for a "burn in" linux iso? [03:21] Thanks Rideh. I searched script kiddies and so they could use e-mail addresses? Or the worry would be some lurker noting the address then [03:22] nah email address is just a email address but you might get unnecessary hassle [03:22] e-mailing me off line purporting to help but getting info to do otherwise? Or am I missing something? [03:22] anything [03:22] Right. Thanks. [03:24] my e-mail addresses are already on all existing spammer list (my server gets around 40k spams a day) so one more place isn't really a problem :) [03:25] stgraber: wasnt really directed at you, i'm fairly confident your aware of irc's roots [03:26] davidgroos: just mentioned hes new to irc [03:26] such a good resource hate to see ppl turned away from it because of bs [03:27] right [03:30] davidgroos: http://blog.revolutionlinux.com/en/post/2008/10/28/T-L-2008-%3A-Thin-Client-Lab-Setup [03:32] good example of what you can do with LTSP and localapps + a lot of people from various school districts were T+L and used (maybe without knowing) thin clients while attending conferences in that room [03:32] Thanks, I'll check it out! [03:50] ls [03:50] whoops [04:00] if i use the server for my main pc will i still be able to serve 8 clients from it? [04:01] wrong question. can i use a quad-core, 4g ram server for my use and still serve 8 clients comfortablly? [04:02] Ahmuck: Should be able to with no problem. [04:03] * Ahmuck grumbles the server boards don't come with sound [04:06] vanilla ubuntu ltsp server install on a board with two nics won't connect to the inet unless one goes in and unremarks the dhcp line in /etc/network/interfaces [04:07] Well, typically, an LTSP server doesn't have the "internet" side as a DHCP interface. [04:07] Servers should have fixed IP interfaces. [04:08] ah. yes [04:08] it fixes eth1 as the static, so is it serving eth0 ? [04:09] Well, eth1's probably managed by network manager, which you should set as a static interface as well. [04:09] Usually, in a server environment. [04:15] Well, late here, heading to bed. [04:15] Night all === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian