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draikUbotu needs to be updated for Dolphin. There is no system_directory under inode00:00
draikardchoille: I'll get the list for you in just a moment00:00
ardchoilledraik: ah, a list, never mind. I was thinking it was just kubuntu-desktop00:00
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MNGoldenEagleHey.  I just recently installed some update packages on my computer and now whenever I go to the desktop I get a black screen.  The mouse appears and is responsive, and if I hit the Menu key I can see the transition effects flicker.  But everything else is just black.  Any ideas, anyone?00:03
draikardchoille: In case you're still curious, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6595300:03
MNGoldenEagleAnyone?00:04
ardchoilledraik: Hmm.. it seems that dolphin is more tightly integrated into kde4 than d3lphin was in kde300:05
gsa10132You guys using Kopete for messaging (icq, msn and the like) or is there another/better alternative out there?00:05
DragnslcrMNGoldenEagle- seems like a lot of people are having that problem. I think it's a video driver issue00:05
Dragnslcrgsa10132- I like Kopete00:06
gsa10132I do too, so far00:06
DragnslcrThe KDE4 version is a huge improvement over the KDE3 version00:06
draikgsa10132: I use kopete. The only alternative I know is pidgin00:06
Raleskgsa10132: I'm using kmess2 for MSN, but kopete for the rest00:06
MNGoldenEagleDragnslcr: I see... in that case, how do I remedy the situation?  Is there a way to rollback the drivers via the terminal?00:07
gsa10132nifty with the tabs piling in the chat window, rather than having a gazillion different windows in the lower bar00:07
Raleskkmess2 is not in the repositories yet, and has yet to be released (but the betas are quite reliable)00:07
Raleskgsa10132: there was tabbed chat mode in kopete/kde3 too :)00:07
gsa10132yeah, I know, Im on kde3 :)00:07
gsa10132using 8.0400:07
gsa10132first time Linux on desktop.. went with the stable sure thing00:08
Raleskother than hogging the CPU a lot and a few fixes to the config dialogs, I don't think kopete/kde4 is that much an improvement :P00:08
draikI have 8.10 on my HP laptop and now I'm waiting for the Dell laptop to finish the download.00:08
Dragnslcrgsa10132- if you like Kopete in KDE3, you'll like it a lot more in KDE400:08
madohi guys ...00:08
madoand gals ...00:08
Dragnslcrgsa10132- the KDE4 has a sane status manager00:09
gsa10132Dragnslcr: cool :)00:09
madocan anybody tell me what these two error-messages mean? ...00:09
madomario@toxmqds:~/c$ gcc -o zinsi.c zinsi00:09
madogcc: zinsi: No such file or directory00:09
madogcc: keine Eingabedateien00:09
gsa10132I havent messed around a lot with it yet.. Id like to change the transparency levels tho00:09
madokeine Eingabedateien = no input files00:09
MNGoldenEagleDragnslcr: Any idea how to fix the driver issue, or at least make it use workable drivers?  I'm new to Linux and am not very familiar with these things.00:10
madoDarthfrog: are you around somewhere?00:10
favromado: sounds like you are in the wrong dir00:10
madofavro: :) ... no i00:11
madoi'm not00:11
favromado: then the file doesn't exist00:11
madothe file "zinsi.c" is in the directory "/home/mario/c"00:11
DragnslcrMNGoldenEagle- I haven't upgraded to 8.10 yet, so I don't really know how to fix it. I've just seen a couple other people describe the same problem00:11
Mr-Smado > try the absolute pacth from root to point to the file00:11
madothe file exists :)00:11
madoMr-S: pardon?00:11
favromado try ./zinsi.c00:11
Mr-Sgcc -o /home/mado/c/zinis.o00:12
MNGoldenEagleAh... I see.  Well, I'll see if I can use KDE in recovery mode and switch the driver.00:12
MNGoldenEagleThanks anyway.00:12
Mr-Sor go with favro00:12
DragnslcrMNGoldenEagle- might be worth checking the forums. I'm sure there's at least a couple threads about the issue00:12
madodoesn't work Mr-S ... and favro ... when i write you command i get many new lines ... i guess error-messages00:13
madobut all these things i see there can't really be ...00:14
Mr-Smost likely you done a bad thing with your file :)00:14
madoit shows me only things in my commentary00:14
madoi haven00:14
mado't done anything00:14
madojust wrote some lines and saved :)00:14
madohere -> http://phpfi.com/37257300:15
Mr-Scheck the man pages to check if you have overlooked something and of course your file00:16
goofeyanyone here have a clean kubuntu 8.10 install and can confirm that installing firefox requires some gnome (not just gtk) files?00:16
favrogoofey: a few folk have mentioned that00:17
stdini'll see what a chroot says about it00:17
goofeyfavro: ok, just wanting to make sure i'm not crazy00:17
favrohehe00:17
mado*i can't figure it out*00:19
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stdinmado: gcc -o zinsi zinsi.c00:20
draikI have Konqueror crashing every time I'm trying to apply the changes. It will not save/apply Konqueror over Dolphin00:20
draikAnyone else come across the same/similar issue?00:21
madothank you stdin :) ... now i have to find out why it doesn't like "getch():" :)00:22
ardchoillegetch();00:23
madozinsi.c:53: Fehler: »getch« wurde in diesem Gültigkeitsbereich nicht definiert00:23
madodon't really know what that means00:23
madosorry ardchoille ... it was a ';' ... typo ... but there still is this error00:24
ardchoilleok00:24
stdinmado: getchar()00:24
madohere -> http://phpfi.com/37257700:24
stdingetch() is non-standard iirc00:24
madostdin: thank you :)00:25
madonow the whole thing seems to work :)00:26
stdinprobably some lazy MS dev decided "ar" was 2 letters too many00:26
ardchoillehehe00:26
madostdin: ... maybe ... i wrote "getch" because my professor always wrote this :)00:26
DragnslcrI've worked with programmers like that00:26
madoi am wondering ...00:27
madowhat will happen if i write "getchar" on a sheet of paper when there is a test?00:27
DragnslcrVariable names like 'hdb' everywhere00:27
xp-killerin kubuntu isnt there something i can modify my pictures like cut out the part i need00:27
xp-killerin kubuntu isnt there something i can modify my pictures like cut out the part i need?00:27
Dragnslcrmado- depends on the class and/or teacher00:27
stdintell your professor that MS is not a standard00:28
Dragnslcrxp-killer- I think Digikam can do basic cropping00:28
madoDragnslcr: hmm *agreeing* ...00:28
madoone thing that might amuse you ...00:28
madomy professor was quite surprised to see that i use openoffice.org :)00:28
xp-killerDragnslcr: wat is croping?00:28
ardchoillemado: somehow that doesn't surprise me00:28
Dragnslcrmado- hehe00:28
stdinmado: getchar() is a part of the ISO/ANSI C89 standard, if he complains. fire him00:28
xp-killerstdin: hi00:29
mado:=)00:29
madocan you suggest any good tutorials for c and c++ ?00:29
madoi'm just a beginner in programming ...00:29
Dragnslcrxp-killer- removing the outside of a picture, leaving only the part you want to keep00:29
madoso i don't know what book or website or tutorial is good :)00:30
stdinxp-killer: krita should be able to crop00:30
madogcc OR g++ -o program source ... i will remember that00:31
stdindon't think of C as C++ that close. there are different coding styles00:31
mado:) stdin00:31
madook00:31
stdinC likes pointers and casting, C++ likes references and implicit casts00:31
madoi guess i have to learn a lot :)00:32
gsa10132btw, the mrs asked me to put a CD onto her cellphone.. what tool should I use in Kubuntu for that? I assume she wants it in mp300:32
madoerm ... i'll be back ...00:33
Dragnslcrgsa10132- depends on the phone00:33
gsa10132Sony Ericsson umm.. let me check.. w800 or something00:33
Dragnslcrgsa10132- if it's a good one, it'll have a USB port that you can just connect to your PC and it'll mount as a regular external disk00:34
DragnslcrOtherwise it might be tricky00:34
ardchoilleCan k3b do ripping music from cd and converting to mp3?00:34
boumacan i install kpdf for ubuntu ??00:34
ardchoillebouma: gnome apps work fine in kde and vice-versa00:35
gsa10132its a K530i Sony Ericsson.. well, sure, it's got USB.. I was looking at possible software to rip the CD -> Mp3 really00:35
boumaardchoille: right. i tried apt-cache search kpdf00:35
DragnslcrAh00:35
JontheEchidnabouma: in intrepid it's called okular00:35
boumaJontheEchidna: noiche :P00:35
ardchoillebouma: actually, I think kpdf was removed starting in intrepid, open a terminal and do; apt-cache search pdf00:36
Ahrihi, i've installed kubuntu on my mum/sister's laptop to convert them away from windows, but i can't get amarok to play stuff off my sister's ipod nano (1st gen i think), how can i fix this?00:36
Ahrithe amarok error is "Some media could not be loaded (not playable)." -- it's just random stuff off her ipod i want her to be able to manage...00:36
Dragnslcrgsa10132- k3b appears to have a "Rip Audio CD" option00:36
gsa10132cool, I'll just go with that.. its a CD-book, two records.. doesnt even have to be superior quality I guess, since its speech mostly00:37
stdinmake sure kdemultimedia-kio-plugins is installed and go to audiocd:/ in konqueror or dolphin00:37
stdineasiest CD ripping tool in the universe, ever00:37
gsa10132cool, will try that00:38
boumadoes kile work with okular00:38
stdinyou just drag & drop whatever format you want to where you want and let it work00:38
boumai want it to reload a file automatically when it changes on disk. particularly pdf00:38
boumawithout moving the view of the display00:38
deftoneanyone know where I can get a nice looking terminal icon for my dock manager??00:40
ardchoilledeftone: lots of stuff in /usr/share/icons00:40
draikHow many passes does Konqueror have to do with "Updating System Configuration" before it is done being set as default over Dolphin?00:41
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Raleskokay, kubuntu people.  anyone ever installed a custom keyboard layout in KDE4?00:42
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Raleskbecause it worked in kde3, but kde4 doesn't want to take my changes into account00:43
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sdlnxgki'm affected by the nvidia drivers and don't wish to reinstall how can I get back to vesa drivers like when it first started up00:45
xp-killerwhats new in 8.10 kubuntu?00:48
xp-killeris it stable?00:48
sdlnxgkseems pretty stable if you have the right video card00:48
draikxp-killer: It is stable. I'm running it on one laptop right now, another is being installed00:48
ardchoillexp-killer:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news00:49
sdlnxgknvidia slipped us a micky00:49
sdlnxgksome cards work some don't00:49
sdlnxgkI gave up and just left the vesa drivers installed this time00:49
sdlnxgkmaybe nvidia will get the 3d acceleration working00:49
Raleskxp-killer: if you can call KDE 4.1.2 stable, then it is :)00:50
sdlnxgklol00:50
sdlnxgkthere always needs to be work done00:50
zzazahi all00:51
draikMy only issue right now is getting Konqueror to apply the settings of being the default app over Dolphin00:51
memeemeeeok all. got a question about manual migration from Hardy to Intrepid: I'd like to install my system in a 15G partition and my home Dir in a 500G partition. is there any reason to make my swap bigger than 5G or my / bigger than 15? also, if I'm running Hardy on another internal drive, will it cause problems to have my /home/username be the same if I'm mounting it directly for Ibex?00:51
memeemeeeone more question: will I be able to simply rsync -a the contents of my home directory from hardy into the new partition?00:53
stdinmemeemeee: 5GB is probably overkill as it is, and mixing hardy and intrepid on $HOME is not a good idea. as KDE 4 in intrepid uses ~/.kde00:53
memeemeeeso stdin to successfully migrate I have to manually copy the files I want from old home to new?00:54
stdinor just create one user for hardy and one for intrepid00:55
stdinI use a public dir on my / for general files I want to share between users. not config files though00:56
memeemeeeok so you think that having the same username as a mountpoint as the username that hardy will be looking for inside it's / will be problematic? I'm going to trash hardy anyway as it is not working with my eth0 hardware (linux w/out internet SUX!)00:57
stdinif you don't mind that much, just "cp -a ~/.kde ~/.kde.old", then you have a backup if anything goes wrong00:58
memeemeeedo you know if the boot loader will know where to look to find my $home for 8.04 (in otherwords same fs /home/username) even if I create a partition with the same name on another disc? sounds like it might confuse things01:03
stdinthe bootloader only needs to know where the root is01:04
stdin/etc/fstab deals with the other mounts01:05
tikladodo you know where can i play my mp3?01:07
favro!mp301:08
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:08
draikI can't get Konqueror to do it's defaults thing. It goes as far as trying to apply and goes through numerous "Updating System Configuration" progress bars to 100% and crashes once I switch desktops. Is there another work-around to make Konqueror the default over Dolphin?01:08
memeemeeeok. so if i select sda1 to load Hardy it will look in the fstab for the location of $HOME and not be confused by the partition that sdb1 is using for Ibex? sorry if i'm being dense. i'm fairly new to linux. learning a lot but certainly no power user01:08
draikHow do I run an app as root?01:14
draik"kdesu konqueror" doesn't do anything01:14
qbgkdesudo?01:14
draikTrying it now01:15
draikThat did it01:15
draikThank you qbg01:15
memeemeeeok. so stdin, if i select sda1 to load Hardy it will look in the fstab for the location of $HOME and not be confused by the partition that sdb1 is using for Ibex? sorry if i'm being dense. i'm fairly new to linux. learning a lot but certainly no power user01:15
memeemeeeare there any known issues with Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller? I can't get it to connect to my linksys WGR54 anymore. I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 KDE3 and thinking about upgrading to 8.10 to see if it makes a dif. any help would be greatly appreciated. I have been working at this for days-- no weeks now to no avail01:16
stdinmemeemeee: yeah, the /etc/fstab file tells the system what to mount where01:16
draikI was right! It needs to be done with root privileges. That should be added to !dolphin01:17
draik:( That did not fix my issue.01:18
DarkSmokeconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:28
DarkSmokewhy am i recieving this error?01:28
MinusSevenBecause the C compiler couldn't create executables01:29
ardchoille!compile01:29
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:29
DarkSmokei installed build-essentia01:29
MinusSevenI'm guessing, but maybe something to do with the linking01:29
DarkSmoke*essential01:29
DarkSmokeso i don't think i have to install anything else01:29
ari_stresshi hi :)01:30
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jerkfacehi. is kubuntu LTS supported for 5 years like ubuntu LTS? thanks.01:48
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Raleskjerkface: wasn't it 3 years in the first place?01:48
Guest56919hello all01:49
Raleskanyway, Kubuntu Hardy isn't an LTS because kde3 is not really supported anymore, and kde4 is quite a moving target :P01:49
Raleskso the LTS-ness only covers the non-kde part of ubuntu main01:50
jerkfacesecurity updates for 5 years http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/benefits/lifecycle01:50
Raleskah01:50
Raleskwell 5 then01:51
Raleskyou'll get sec updates regardless of whether you install ubuntu or kubuntu -- it's the same repository afterall01:51
Raleskjust don't expect sec updates for anything kde after like a year or so01:52
jerkfacei think i will lose support for fedora 8 when 10 is released later this month, but i don't want to move to kde4. that's cool thanks.01:52
npsbreif i read that chart correctly, it's 5 just for the server version01:52
Raleskjerkface: hmm, doesn't fedora 10 carry kde3 anymore either?01:53
jerkfacesince f9 it has been kde401:53
draikLaptop just shutdown during the installation of the downloaded packages.01:59
draikHow do I continue where I left off?01:59
Raleskdraik: just apt-get install I think02:01
Raleskperhaps with -f02:01
jerkfaceoh, from wikipedia the last kubuntu lts was 6.06 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu02:02
draikRalesk: It came back with "dpkg --configure -a"02:02
tokahman kubuntu is giving me issues02:02
draikRan that with sudo and it seems to be doing the job02:02
Raleskthen do that :)02:02
Raleskgood :)02:02
draikHow do I remove Dolphin as the File Manager. It is there under my Favorites of the K Menu. I realized that this is what opens when I choose the Network option from the Computer tab in K Menu.02:03
draik!medibuntu02:04
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:04
tokahahh. just migrated from ubuntu hardy. so many headaches.02:04
tokahok so my external monitor keeps shutting on and off02:05
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JontheEchidnatokah: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/02:07
draik!dolphin02:07
ubottuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.02:07
tokahJontheEchidna, thanks man02:07
JontheEchidnanp02:07
draikCan someone please check their Konqueror settings? I do not have inode/system_directory02:08
Kernelhello all. where did users and groups go under systemsettigs?02:08
Kerneli dont see it anywhere in there02:08
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stdinKernel: KMenu -> Applications -> System -> User Manager02:10
draikHas someone here successfully changed the default File Manager from Dolphin to Konqueror?02:14
vandorenwhen will 8.10 powerpc ports be released?02:17
avamaxhey can anyone help me add a second hd02:19
inteliwaspif i use twinview on 2 monitors, and i maximize a window, will it span both monitors?02:19
draikI just upgraded my Dell laptop to 8.10 and I don't have an X GUI02:20
Raleskvandoren: were there even ppc versions of 8.04? o.o  I thought they stopped providing the port a while back02:20
twotenI just upgraded to 8.10!02:22
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vandorenthey release ppc versions unofficially http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/8.04.1/release/02:23
maxbaldwinHow can I make a folder into a .tar.gz?02:23
huhuhuhwath is the URL in spanish02:24
twotenuse konqueror and get the service menu02:24
twotenthen just right click on the folder02:24
huhuhuhwat is the pag........... in spanish02:25
twotenI need a faster repository, mine is at a lousy 4k per second!02:25
ardchoilletwoten: the thousands of people who have installed/upgraded the past two days are all using the same repos, it's going to be a bit slow02:27
twotenI figgered as much, damn early adopters02:27
twotenand my kde now boots into a black screen02:28
JontheEchidnatwoten: does alt+f2 do anything?02:29
twotenI'm in console mode now, do I hit alt-f2 while I'm in x?02:29
draiktwoten: Me, too.02:29
maxbaldwintwoten: what do you mean service folder?02:30
JontheEchidnatwoten: yeah, it could be that the desktop is crashing02:30
maxbaldwinerm, service menu02:30
binMonkeyhi, guys.02:30
JontheEchidnaif that's the case it would be possible to launch it from krunner02:30
twotenservice menu, there are a pile of them for konqueror, they extend the right click menu with super posers02:30
twotenpowers02:30
binMonkeyi have a broadcom wireless card.  if i upgrade to 08.10 will i retainmy ndiswrapper setup or will i have to do it all over again?02:30
maxbaldwinok, what do I click on after it? I'm not seeing anything that sticks out.02:31
twotengoogle konqueror service menus and find one that lets you zip up whole directories02:31
draiksudo dpkg --configure -a    quits on me because of too many errors. Is there a way to work around this?02:32
twotenbroadcoms are a bitch, I had to give up and run a wire02:32
binMonkeytwoten: i got it working with ndiswrapper.  just don't want to fool with it again. does anyone know if the upgrade will kill my ndiswrapper setup?02:33
enzo_binMonkey: I wouldn't think so, but I could be wrong02:34
twotendo you have your /home as a separate partition? then maybe your settings will be retained02:34
binMonkeyenzo_: i keep thinking your way.02:35
draik!upgrade02:35
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:35
binMonkeytwoten: i'm not sure.  how do i check if home is seperate?  some of this stuff is still new to me.02:35
enzo_I would think it best to create a backup of your settings02:35
twotenI keep my /home directory as a separate partition so whenever I upgrade it stays intact02:36
binMonkeyi don't think i did that last time i installed.02:37
binMonkeynext time i will though.02:37
twotengood habit to get into02:37
binMonkeyi know to copy my home dirctory to backup but what about the directories that have my wireless stuff?  do i just copy and paste them in after the upgrade?02:38
binMonkeycan i make my home a seperate partition now?02:39
twotenI suppose, anything in /opt? is your wrapper config in /etc/hosts?02:39
binMonkeylet me look.02:39
draikI'm trying to upgrade using the Alternative CD on my desktop, and this is the error message I get:    Could not find the upgrade application archive, exiting02:41
binMonkeydraik: isn't the alt cd the one for testing?  the live cd?02:42
draikIt's for upgrading02:43
draikbinMonkey: I got it running now, thanks02:43
twotenI'm running openGeu on my second computer while my big one gets installed02:44
binMonkeyall right.  wish me luck, guys.  i'm going to try to upgrade now.02:44
twotenyou luck good!02:44
draikbinMonkey: I hope you have a lot of hours to do other things02:44
binMonkeydraik: i keep thinking:  it's an upgrade, not a fresh install.  cross your fingers.02:45
draikbinMonkey: I like how I'm about to upgrade my desktop right now and it's telling me it will take up to 44 minutes.02:46
twoteneveryone's upgrading this weekend02:46
draikThe laptops have taken hours.02:46
draiktwoten: I know. It's just funny cuz of false hope :)02:46
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elvisdsATI radeon works fine with kubuntu02:47
twotenI'll eventually whip my box back into shape02:47
elvisdsATI radeon works fine with kubuntu??02:47
draikI have a 2000 HP laptop running Intrepid02:47
draikI'm still trying to get the Dell laptop to finish upgrading.02:47
Digdraik: I hope you don't encounter the problem I have after upgrade.02:47
draikDig: What was that?02:47
twotenwhat was that?02:47
Digmenu.lst doesn't have the correct kernel entry02:48
draikHaven't had that problem.02:48
twotenme neither02:48
draikThe desktop should be a breeze.02:49
twotenI wish my apt-get update would finish so I can install mc and fix my xorg nvidia problem02:49
draikIn regards to the Dell, I was expecting this. It just shut off at a random moment.02:49
Digdraik, twoten already upgrade to 8.10?02:50
twotenyeah I'm in the process, chatting over here on my second box02:50
binMonkeysee you later, guys.  it's started.02:51
draikDig: I have 2 laptops and a desktop. The HP is my guinea pig. That one is done. The Dell laptop is not going anywhere until I can push the installation of what it downloaded for the upgrade. The desktop is about to go right now02:51
twotenyo yo02:51
draik?02:51
DigGreat!02:51
draikI just hope to get my Dell up and running02:52
draikI have too many things in my ~ to just let it go02:52
Digtoo many to backup?02:52
draikDig: Not exactly. Just no place to put them right now.02:53
twotengot a usb flash drive? a digital camera?02:53
draikI have a 500GB external02:53
draikHmmm...02:54
draikBRB02:54
twoten500gig? pretty exotic hardware there dude02:54
ardchoilledraik: tar cjf /path/to/external/$(date +%Y%m%d)-backups.tar.bz2 /home/$USER02:54
draikOk, here's the thing02:55
ImLizhello room, I was wondering if once something is installed, like hplip, one can move the contents into a folder without it disrupting it's function???02:55
twotenyeah02:55
draikI was using it for "backup" of some stuff. I managed to put them on DVD storage02:55
draikI freed up quite a bit of space.02:56
ImLiztwoten: was that yeah directed at me?02:56
twotendon't see why not, just keep any symlinks updated02:56
ardchoilleImLiz: once an app is installed, it's best not to disturb it as the package manager knows where it is and other apps may call the app and the path needs to be correct02:56
twotenno at draik02:56
draikLong thought process short, I might be able to put it all in my external with 110GB left02:56
twotenlet's hope you got usb 2.002:57
draikOne way to find out right now.02:57
ImLizoh ok thanks ardchoille02:57
twotenmaybe some package manager like kpackage could move it for you02:57
draiktwoten: I believe so. The Dell laptop was given to me because the owner thought it was useless. I told him I have a use for it and he just said, "Fine. It's all yours, free of charge. It would be a doorstop for me"02:58
ardchoilledraik: nice02:58
twotensweet, maybe a wee fast linux like puppy would be a better choice, or openGEU02:58
draikThis laptop came out to $140 with the purchase of 2GB of RAM and a new 160GB HDD02:58
draikSo, I guess the laptop cost me $140. Not even on the black market will it get that great.02:59
twotenyou'd have to turn tricks to get bling like that03:00
bob__Hello everyone! I just got a used Dell Inspiron 600m. I have loaded ubuntu 8 on it and am having the following problem. When using email, open office apps etc. I will be typing along and bang! the line I am writting on changes to where ever the mouse pointer is.....HELP!03:00
twotensounds like window focus follows mouse, there's a switch for that03:00
ardchoillebob__: Ubuntu or Kubuntu? and which 8? 8.04 or 8.10?03:01
AizawaMaybe that autoclick thing is on. just a thought; I'm not even sure what it does. :S03:01
twotenalright, I'm getting mc!03:02
bob__<ardchoille> 8.0403:02
bob__I looked for a setting but couldn't find one....03:02
draikHow do I get the USB to be recognized in 8.10? It did not come up.03:02
twotenanyone ever use envy? it's saved my butt a few times!03:03
ardchoillebob__: if it is Ubuntu, you should be in #ubuntu. This channel is for Kubuntu support03:03
ardchoille!envy03:03
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk03:03
bob__Sorry03:03
ardchoillebob__: No problem, I'm just trying to get you the best help available03:03
twotenaw shuchs03:03
twotenshucks03:03
hagabakadoes kmail in 8.10 store things in ~/.kde4?03:03
bob__I'll get outta here .... I type faster than I can see. ........Bahahaha03:04
draikI am running the 8.10 Live CD. Why is my installed HDD not shown in /media ?03:05
ardchoilledraik: it won't be mounted until you mount it03:06
draikardchoille: Sorry, it was on the side. Don't have time to play with Dolphin and use Konqueror.03:06
ardchoillehagabaka: I would think it stores things in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail03:08
tikladois there a program dor converting mp3 format into a freeformat?03:08
twotenaudacity?03:08
hagabakaardchoille: but when I started it without ~/.kde4 existing, it said "could not create /home/hagabaka/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail"03:08
twotenit can do mp3 to ogg vorbis03:09
AizawaYeah, audacity is a good one.03:09
hagabakai created it manually and it works now03:09
tikladoiokay..thanks..03:09
twotenI like the look of rezound but could never get it to work for me03:09
hagabakabut for some reason it sees all my mail even though they're in ~/.kde/, not ~/.kde4/03:09
ardchoillehagabaka: strange, that sounds like it's going to give upgraders problems with configs of previously installed apps03:10
twotenI like the look of rezound but could never get it to work for me03:10
twotenokay, my xorg,conf says Load "Type1" and it crashed there, I assume that's type 1 fonts?03:13
draikardchoille: I am running your suggested command, tar cjf /path/to/external/$(date +%Y%m%d)-backups.tar.bz2 /home/$USER. Should I make /home/$USER /media/disk/home/$USER ?03:13
draikardchoille: I'm running the LiveCD.03:14
ardchoilledraik: or /media/disk/$USER  it's the place tar will put the tarball so edit as needed03:14
ardchoilledraik: the resulting tarball will have a filename of 20081101-backups.tar.bz2  I use that command for nightly backups on sdb103:15
twotenI commented out Load Type 1 and x still crashes03:16
draikYup. That is what I have03:16
ardchoilledraik: if you like that backup scheme, you can always make a bash script and throw it in a cronjob03:16
draikardchoille: That is something I would have to consider because that would save me quite a few concerns03:17
twotennow I'm running envyng from a console03:17
draikIs it too late to try and retrieve my package list for all of my installed stuff?03:18
ardchoilledraik: the only thing is you will have to go into the backups location and remove old stuff once in a while03:18
twotencan you save your package database?03:19
tikladois there like the update manager of ubuntu in kubuntu?03:19
twotensynaptic?03:19
Aizawathere's "adept"03:20
ardchoilletiklado: you mean update ubuntu apps as well as kubuntu apps?03:20
tikladoyup03:20
twotensounds weird when you say it like that03:20
draiktwoten: Is it possible to save?03:20
twotenmaybe from kpackage, it does stuff other package managers don't do03:21
draikardchoille: I would only keep the files around for 2 weeks. After that, I will review what stays and what doesn't03:21
twotenprudent03:21
twotenI practice the same regimen with my stools03:22
tikladoo.i'm quite use to ubuntu, where in the package manager update all by itself, unlike this one..im using the 8.10 and im just starting to learn how this works03:23
draikIs it possible to make a backup of my installs?03:23
ardchoille!sysresccd | draik03:23
ubottudraik: SystemRescueCd is a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM. It contains a number of admin tools including gparted and partimage. http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page03:23
Wickedhmm where can i get more widgets for kde4?03:23
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ardchoilledraik: you can use that livecd and use the PartImage app to make images of your partitions. I do this once per month in case of disasters03:24
twotenmaybe Steve Balmer can get you some03:24
draikardchoille: That's the issue. I can't do anything with it.03:24
draikardchoille: I'm locked out of the OS03:24
ardchoilledraik: locked out?03:25
Wicked!widgets03:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about widgets03:25
draikardchoille: Sorry. I just tightened the bulb over my head. LIGHTS ON!03:25
Wicked!widget03:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about widget03:25
Wicked!kde403:25
ubottuKDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:25
twoten!mc03:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mc03:26
twoten!xine03:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xine03:26
twoten!gimp03:26
ubottugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.03:26
twotenha!03:26
DragnslcrHm, !kde4 needs to be fixed03:26
draikDragnslcr: So does !Dolphin03:26
DragnslcrIndeed03:27
twoten!parisHilton03:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about parishilton03:27
ardchoille!botabuse03:28
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".03:28
draik!botsnack03:29
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!03:29
draikI wonder... can you overfeed a bot?03:29
tikladohaha03:30
twotena gourbot03:30
draikMy laptop is shutting down.03:30
draikI didn't give it the command to shut down03:30
hazzyLow battery?03:30
draikIt's on AC03:30
hazzyAH03:31
twotenMichael Myers?03:31
hazzyUh03:31
draikTrippy, right?03:31
hazzyYes03:31
draikIt's ood03:32
draik*odd03:32
draikThis is what happened that messed up my install for the upgrades03:32
bibekwhen i ls one of the files has * at last03:33
bibekand althogh i own it i cannot delete it or move it03:33
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bibeksays permission denied03:33
hazzySudo?03:33
AizawaThis..might be a stupid question, but is there a way to rename my whole user account?03:34
bibekanyone knows whats wrong?03:34
hazzybibek: Try "sudo", then the command03:34
bibekhazzy: i cannot sudo since i donot have that previledge03:34
bibekwhy is there * at last of my filename?03:34
twotenweird, I can startx as root from a console but not as my user03:35
draikEnter... the twilight zone. Kubutnu users are upgrading their systems today, only to experience odd anomilies (sp) throughout their newly upgraded operating systems. Today's episode is called, "Intrepid Ibex".03:37
ardchoilletwoten: What is the error?03:37
twotennone listed I'll have to go track it down in the log file03:37
ardchoilletwoten: see if root any files in your home: find /home/$USER -user root03:38
AizawaI don't want to nag about this, but is there a way to rename my user account?03:38
draikAizawa: What you can try is creating a new user account. Log into that account and try to edit your original account.03:39
draikThat's the best I have for now.03:39
AizawaWell, that works, but it's a lot of work configuring it. >.>03:39
AizawaBut thanks.03:40
ardchoilleAizawa: keep in mind that if you create a new account and end up deleting the old account, you may lock yourself out of sudoers if the old account has sudo privs03:40
twotenyeah there's a bunch03:40
AizawaHm? Wont I be able to sudo on a new account?03:40
AizawaNevermind.03:41
ardchoilleAizawa: not until you add the new account03:41
AizawaYeah I figured03:41
hazzytwoten: Sorry, did you edit your /etc/sudoers file?03:41
ardchoilletwoten: .ICEauthority or .Xauthority ?03:41
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smartyhey, i was able to use my headphone jack on 3.5 but after the upgrade to 4.1 i can no longer use my headphone jack with my headphones (or my volume control) any fixes?03:42
favrolooked in alsamixer?03:42
smartynope, i'll do it right now03:43
ardchoilletwoten: if .ICEauthority or .Xauthority in your home are owned by root, change ownership back to your user and then try startx03:43
draikO.o 21 minutes left for the upgrade downloads. 400 packages in 21 minutes. :)03:43
twotenardchoille: neither of those just adept_installerrc and katepart...03:43
ardchoilletwoten: ok03:44
twotenI'm making progress though, nvidia seems to be loading and I'm getting 2 xsessions on my 2 screens03:44
draikI just used the connected devices feature. That is a great addition. Makes it easier to manage.03:46
hazzyYes03:47
twotenreboot03:47
twotenwell from what I've glimpsed 8.10 with kde 4.1 looks awfully slick03:48
draikardchoille: twoten: Just wanted to thank you both for the help. I'm going to continue tinkering with 8.10 and hopefully I can get things setup to my liking; namely, no more dolphin03:49
twotenyeah really, konqueror is way better03:49
hazzyTo be honest, I should get in the habit of using Konqueror more03:50
draikI mean, no offense to the devs/creators of dolphin, but it's just not efficient. It feels like a clutter to me.03:50
draikI'm all for the innovation of another option, but make the option easier to use, not a task to close out unwanted sections.03:51
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smartyok i have an issue now ... i accidentally messed up some configurations... is there a "system restore" that i can use03:53
smartyin kubuntu?03:54
MinusSevenKDE is very buggy03:54
ardchoilledraik: yw :)03:54
twotenso is my compost heap03:54
smartyis there a system restore type of application that is in kubuntu, i need to revert some settings03:55
Roeyhazzy:  konqueror in 4.1 is pretty bad03:56
Roeyfirefox is more accurate in rendering03:56
twotenhow so?03:56
Roeytwoten:  go to mail.yahoo.com; it messes up the rendering03:56
Roeyesp. when you try to reply to a mail03:56
twotenoh as a web browser, but how about as a file manager?03:56
hazzyRoey: Well, I only use it for file browsing03:56
Roeyohhhhh ok03:56
Roeyok then, happy browsing!03:57
RoeyI use it as a file browser too :)03:57
hazzysmarty: I don't think there is a system restore unless you downloaded one previously03:57
trappistI've just upgraded to intrepid, and now when I try to save a contact in kaddressbook via ldap, it hangs and I have to kill kontact and any kio_ldap processes to try again - any ideas why?03:57
draiktwoten: It turns out I don't have USB 2.0 on this laptop. The transfer rate is at about 500 kB/s to 3.4 MB/s03:58
hazzytrappist: I'm not sure, but it happens to me too03:59
twotenyikes03:59
draikMoving 57.8 GB is looking like a whole day... even up to 6 according to the counter.03:59
twotenyou'll have time to go to the store and buy a usb 2.0 card04:00
draikIt's about another 10 minutes for the upgrade to finish downloading on my desktop.04:00
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taime1flash has stopped working after i upgraded it. it doesnt even realize its installed.. what gives?04:01
draikOn the bright side, I did save up to 15% by switching to Geiko.04:01
twotenlo0l04:01
trappisthazzy: I'll let you know if I discover anything useful04:01
mr---t-geico04:01
draikClose enough04:01
hazzytrappist: Alright, thanks04:02
mr---t-ok04:02
draikmr---t-: Pity the foo' that can't spell a company name?04:02
mr---t-yeah04:02
Digis ubuntuforums.org down?04:03
mr---t-as many freakin commercials they have04:03
hazzyDig: When I ping ubuntuforums.org, I get connectivity04:04
hazzyBut ah04:04
hazzyIt looks as though it is04:04
taime1does anyone else have this problem?: flash isnt recognized after upgrading it to flash 1004:05
Digcan access as http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php04:05
hazzytaimel: I'll test it myself04:07
draikWOOHOO! YES! YES! YES! 2% on the data transfer from HDD to external! We're making our way up the ladder.04:07
twotenon my kmenu button, I don't get my most used apps appearing at the top of the menu04:08
draik3 minutes and about 40 packages left for the desktop upgrade04:09
hazzytwoten: You mean your favorites list?04:11
twotenyeah, no longer appears on top of my menu04:12
trappisthazzy: do you have a launchpad account where if I create a bug, you can confirm it?04:13
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hazzytrappist: I do now04:14
g0bl1nhi, I installed 8.10 and my screen blanks when splash should appear. I have a siliconmotion. My xorg.conf has almost no info. The logs report missing Screens04:14
draikDownload is done. I am now doing the install. This was a very smooth install.04:14
twotenyore lucky, I got nothing but problems04:15
ardyPlease help: I can't get KDE4 to use both screens, how do I get it to work? (It worked with kubuntu 8.04 and kde 3.5)04:17
draik3% transferred... yeah, I'll be here for a while.04:17
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twotenI have the twin screen problem too, so annoying04:19
bobbywhile booting: kernel panick: unable to mount root file system on unknown block(3,2)04:21
bobbycan u help04:21
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bobbywhile booting: kernel panick: unable to mount root file system on unknown block(3,2)04:24
bobbyplease help04:25
ardyBobby: I had that problem when I upgraded from 8.04, so I reinstalled kubunt 8.10 from the CD and it went away04:26
bobbyactually its on my slackware04:27
bobbyit started when i upgraded my processor04:27
draikWhere do I go so that I can manage the icon size?04:34
trungdungcó ai viêệ nam ko04:34
deftoneHow do i put  a custom icon on the start menu panel?04:51
tacosarecoolhello04:51
tacosarecoolHello04:53
tacosarecoolhelp04:54
favrodeftone: does right clicking the icon give a menu?04:55
favro!help | tacosarecool04:55
ubottutacosarecool: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:55
tacosarecoolLike when plasma crashes I lose my panel widgets04:55
favrobahh04:55
deftoneya it does favro04:56
favrodeftone: isn't there an option to change the icon?04:57
favrowith the right click menu?04:57
deftoneyes04:58
favro:)04:58
deftoneit's the KDE menu editor but i don't see an option to replace the actual button for the start menu04:58
favroI remeber seeing the option somewhere but can't exactly recall where04:59
tacosarecoolLet me look04:59
tacosarecoolI'll find where the button is located05:00
tacosarecoolOn mine05:00
tacosarecoolGrr05:00
tacosarecoolMy desktop refreshed05:00
tacosarecoolAnd no panel icons05:00
tacosarecoolI have a serious problem05:00
tacosarecoolPlease help05:00
trappist!enter05:01
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:01
favrotacosarecool: how much resources are being used - top will tell05:01
tacosarecoolHow do I tell05:04
tacosarecoolWhich is using the highest05:04
favroit will be at the top of top05:05
tacosarecoolXorg?05:06
tacosarecoolOne's at 98 percent05:07
tacosarecoolcput05:07
tacosarecoolcpu05:07
favrotacosarecool: that'll be why your dramas are happn'n - try a diff vid card driver05:10
tacosarecoolfavro05:12
tacosarecoolyou still there?05:13
favro.05:13
tacosarecoolOh cool05:13
tacosarecoolOk05:13
tacosarecoolSo what do you want me to paste?05:13
favronothing - I suggested another vid card driver would be a solution05:13
tacosarecoolAny you recommend?05:14
favrodepends on your card - lspci | grep VGA   will tell05:14
tacosarecoolati x300 I know05:15
tacosarecoolor that series05:15
favroI would start with the opensource ati driver then go from there05:15
tacosarecoolwhere's the open source ati driver at05:16
favroit should be in the kernel - add it to the device section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:17
favroSection "Device"   Driver   "ati"05:19
tacosarecoolShould I uninstall my old driver?05:19
favroa logout/login after editing the file should be fine for that05:19
tacosarecoolWait it's's different than the propeitary drivers in the hardware drivers right05:20
favroyep it is the basic one05:21
dennisterhey all...having trouble configuring a dialup modem...in over 2 years with k/ubuntu and many systems later, I've never had to do this before :)05:22
favro!dialup05:23
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up05:23
tacosarecoolOk05:24
tacosarecoolRemoved the driver05:24
tacosarecoolNow what05:24
favroyou should have      Driver   "ati"   in the xorg.conf file right?05:26
favroif so logout/login05:26
tacosarecoolAnyway where the xorg.conf05:27
favro/etc/X11/xorg.conf05:28
favrokdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:28
tacosarecoolbrb05:28
favrok05:29
tacosarecoolkdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf  doesn't work05:31
favrowhat do you mean doesn't work - fileis empty or...05:31
tacosarecoolso I use sudo isntead05:31
tacosarecoolinstead05:31
tacosarecoolSection "Device"05:32
tacosarecoolIdentifier"Configured Video Device"05:32
tacosarecoolEndSection05:32
tacosarecoolThat's fine right05:32
tacosarecoolIt doesn't say ati05:32
favroyeh under  Identifier "Configured Video Device" add  Driver   "ati"05:33
dennisterfavro: have looked at that page before, as well as the xmodem.org list already...but still having trouble finding one of over a dozen modems that I have here that will be recognized... have already swapped a few05:33
favrodennister: sorry but I've never done dialup - none show in lspci?05:34
dennisterhave also downloaded and isntalled the scanModem tool, and with every modem I swap in, gnome-ppp still can't find a modem...they all show up is lspci05:34
tacosarecoolOk what do I do05:35
tacosarecoolput ati under where05:35
favrodennister: gnome-ppp? - you know this channel is for kubuntu there is #ubuntu for ubuntu05:35
favroyeh under  Identifier "Configured Video Device" add  Driver   "ati"05:35
favrotacosarecool: ^05:35
tacosarecoolso Section "Device"05:36
tacosarecoolIdentifier"Configured Video Device"05:36
tacosarecoolEndSection         ati05:36
tacosarecoolOr what05:36
favrono Section "Device"05:36
favroIdentifier "Configured Video Device"05:36
favroDriver   "ati"05:36
favroEndSection05:37
tacosarecoolSo change configured video device to Driver ati05:37
favrono05:37
dennisterfavro: yes, i know it's kubuntu channel, and I prefer kde, but the howto's are usually written for gnome...05:37
favrotacosarecool: there should be four lines when you're done05:37
dennisterhas anyone here ever configured a diaup connection?05:38
favrotacosarecool: the first will be05:38
favroSection "Device"05:38
favrosecond05:38
favroIdentifier "Configured Video Device"05:38
favrothird05:38
favroDriver   "ati"05:38
favroand last05:38
favroEndSection05:38
tacosarecoolSection "Device"05:39
tacosarecoolIdentifier"Configured Video Device"                                                                 "Driver "ati"05:39
tacosarecoolEndSection05:39
tacosarecoolThat right?05:39
favrotacosarecool: yes :)05:40
mrunagi!upgrade05:41
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes05:41
favrotacosarecool: now the best way to start it is   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:42
mrunagithat stupid thing isnt clear05:42
mrunagiwhats the command line to upgrade?05:42
mrunagi????05:46
dwidmannAlrighty, anybody know what's going on with Intrepid's Xorg + NVidia?05:48
mrunagianyone know how to upgrade? lol05:48
favroapart from them not getting on together?05:48
dwidmannmrunagi: instructions for that can be found on www.kubuntu.org05:49
mrunagiwhoa intrepid has problems with nvidia?05:49
dwidmannmrunagi: Well, It's not going to work out of the box at any rate, I'm sure it can be made to work though or the complaints would have been very loud and hard for me to miss.05:49
ardchoillemrunagi: upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid?05:49
mrunagiyes ardchoille05:50
ardchoillemrunagi:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu05:50
mrunagiits hard having had a few drinks lol05:50
ardchoillemrunagi: Then perhaps you should wait.. you can't downgrade05:51
mrunagiare u saying i should expectt problems?05:51
ardchoilleI don't know, what do you think about upgrades mixed with drinks?05:52
tacosarecoolhello06:00
tacosarecoolI did the thing you said06:01
tacosarecoolThen It froze06:01
tacosarecoolThen I had to get it back to default06:01
tacosarecoolfavro06:01
favro.06:01
tacosarecoolthe reset06:02
tacosarecoolAnd I also have a problem at boot up not really a problem but the boot up text is weird06:02
favroall I can suggest is to replace "ati" with "vesa" in that file06:02
tacosarecoolAnyway stableizing kde is more important to me right now06:02
tacosarecoolBecause the weird text is just when it's booting the text only part if you know what I mean06:03
favrofrom what you said top was saying it is xorg that is using the cpu - that's the driver afaik06:03
tacosarecoolvesa?06:04
favrovesa is the "cover all bases" basic driver06:05
favrosomeone else might have a better suggestion06:05
tacosarecoolCan I try the ati again06:05
tacosarecoolThough next time I'll just restart06:06
tacosarecoolInstead06:06
tacosarecoolOf the kdm restart06:06
tacosarecoolWhat was the kdm command06:06
favrotacosarecool: now the best way to start it is   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:06
tacosarecoolsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart messed up it froze06:07
vinci_hi, i can't compress files with ark in gz and bz2 forms.06:07
favrotry ctrl+alt+F2  then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart tacosarecool06:07
tacosarecoolbut where do I edit xorg again?06:08
favro/etc/X11/xorg.conf06:08
favro!kdesu06:08
ubottuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)06:08
EldemonI can not change the position of the files, help plz06:10
tacosarecoollol I've been using sudo alot then06:10
tacosarecoolOops06:10
favroEldemon: which files do you want to move?06:11
tacosarecoolI did kdesudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:11
tacosarecooland it said command not found06:11
Eldemonany files06:11
Eldemon.pas .mp406:11
favrotacosarecool: you need an editor - kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:12
tacosarecoolkdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:12
favroyep06:12
favroEldemon: are the files in your home dir?06:13
Eldemonyes06:13
tacosarecoolOh by the way06:13
tacosarecoolThis is a install of kubuntu over ubuntu06:13
Wickedhmm when i right click zip files and stuff...it nor longer has the options to extract to or extract here06:13
favroEldemon: right click and select cut - go to the dir you want them in and right click anywhere and select paste06:14
favrotacosarecool: that shouldn't matter I would think06:14
favroWicked: in konsole type   which ark06:15
Wicked/usr/bin/ark06:15
ardchoillefavro: I don't think dolphin has the same actions in Intrepid as it did in Hardy and before06:15
ardchoillehe just need to write a few service menus06:15
favroWicked: right click the file select open with then browse to /usr/bin/ark06:16
favrofisrt thing I do is remove dolphin06:16
Wickedfavro, yea..i know that..but i want a option when i right click to extract...like i used to have06:16
tacosarecoolWhy remove dolphin?06:17
favroWicked: ardchoille> he just need to write a few service menus06:17
tacosarecoolCan I still use kdesudo?06:17
tacosarecoolI have kubuntu installed on top of ubuntu06:17
favrotacosarecool: practicality, usability, sanity06:18
ardchoilleWicked: look in  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus  and write yourself some service menus for dolphin06:18
favrotacosarecool: it should have been installed if not install it maybe?06:18
Wickedhmm06:18
Wickedok ardchoille06:18
favroardchoille: got an example maybe?06:19
becomingso lost06:19
ardchoillethere might be some existing service menus in /usr/share/apps/dolphin06:19
favroyou're in #kubuntu becoming06:19
ardchoilleI removed dolphin here so I don't have anything related to it06:19
becominglol06:20
favro:)06:20
tacosarecool!paste06:20
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:20
favrobecoming: start at the beginning - we might be able to help06:21
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tacosarecoolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/66067/06:21
becomingi'm at the beginning06:21
becomingi've yet to jump to linux06:22
becomingbut i plan to with kubuntu06:22
Digsorry, what is "!paste"?06:23
favrobecoming: I recommend the 8.04 lts for a start06:23
ardchoilleDig: it's a command to have the bot return some info06:23
favro!bot | Dig06:23
ubottuDig: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:23
favrofavorite bot out of one bots06:23
becomingwhy not 8.10?06:24
tacosarecoolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/66067/06:24
favroit's still abit too new06:24
becomingah06:24
tacosarecoolThat right favro?06:24
favrolooking now06:24
favrotacosarecool: looks fine tacosarecool06:25
becomingi tried to run 8.10 off the cd, but it runs at too high a resolution06:25
ardchoillebecoming: the last thing we want for a new Linux user is to be overwhelmed and dump Linux. 8.04 will give you far fewer problems than 8.10 at this point06:25
favrobecoming: that means you need to install proper vid drivers and that is an issue for some with the new version of kubuntu06:26
Dig!bot06:26
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:26
deftonecan anyone walk me through changing the kde start menu button to another one that i have?06:26
becomingi have up to date drivbers for win06:26
ardchoillebecoming: those won't work in Linux06:27
Dig!bot | Dig06:27
ubottuDig, please see my private message06:27
becomingi figured as much06:27
becomingtre problem is my monitor06:27
tacosarecoolOk now what?06:28
becomingmy vid card can do high rez06:28
favrotacosarecool: does top show cpu usage as reasonable now?06:29
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steelhoofevening all06:29
ardchoillebecoming: well, video drivers are a big issue in 8.10, you're best bet is starting with 8.04. I've been using linux for 7 years and I'm still on 8.04.06:29
Don_Miguelbecoming, is that 'can'  ?  OR 'canNot'  do high rez ??06:29
Dig!paste06:30
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:30
becomingMy monitor can only do 1280x102406:30
becomingunfortunately06:30
becomingI'll take a look at 8.0406:31
Bearcathey folks06:31
ardchoillebecoming: I can give you a link if you want. Where are you located?06:31
becomingIs the only real difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome and KDE?06:32
ardchoilleyes06:32
becomingBecause I like what I've seen of KDE4 so far06:32
ardchoillebecoming:  same base system, only the desktop is different. There's also xubuntu with XFCE06:32
becomingI saw that06:33
ardchoillebecoming: once you have one installed, it's easy enough to install another desktop environment too06:33
mrunagihah adept wont let me upgrade06:33
steelhooflooking for an install image that will be happy on a usb flash drive than can be setup from windows.06:33
becomingOk, with that said is it easier to start with Ubuntu or Kubuntu or does it not matter?06:34
steelhoofserve no has dvd drive, remote location with only a win32 laptop06:34
ardchoillebecoming: that is not easy to answer. I have a 8 year old niece who started with kde and she's fine. others prefer gnome06:35
Frekuthe last kde version led me to gnome06:35
Freku:)06:35
DigI cannot remember in my mind. Did Linus recommend KDE?06:36
becoming4 or 3?06:36
vinciWukde4 amazing06:36
tacosarecoolYes06:36
tacosarecoolHe did recommend kde06:36
becomingKDE4 is beautiful06:36
becomingthat's why i want to go kubuntu06:36
tacosarecoolYeah06:36
ardchoillebecoming: have you browsed the gnome and kde sites yet?06:36
Frekukde4 has too many gadgets for me,  but its personal06:36
tacosarecoolI just got to stabalized06:36
becomingi've looked at kde06:37
becominggnome not so much06:37
ardchoillebecoming: also keep in mind that you can make kde and gnome both look pretty much like anything06:37
ardchoillebecoming: http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Gallery/Screenshots06:38
DigIn my experience, I kind of missing the real desktop, rather than widgets.06:39
Frekuyeah i didnt like the widgets either06:39
vinciWui like widget desktop06:39
Frekufun for like 2 minutes06:39
deftonehaving problems logging as root06:40
Freku!root06:40
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:40
ardchoilledeftone: you're not supposed to log in as root and it's recommended not to.06:40
vinciWuyeah, it's dangerous06:41
favro!sudo06:41
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)06:41
vinciWuwidget desktop is very flexible06:41
deftonei want to rename the kdemenu.png file to kdemenuold.png so i can replace it with a better icon.06:41
tacosarecoolWait06:41
tacosarecoolOk06:41
vinciWui love the folder view06:41
tacosarecoolfavro06:41
tacosarecoolHow do I do that command06:42
ardchoilledeftone: use sudo for that06:42
tacosarecoolctrl alt f2 right06:42
tacosarecoolthen06:42
favroyep06:42
tacosarecoolbut then what06:42
tacosarecoolcommand06:42
tacosarecoolWhat command06:42
Bearcatfolks, i'm tired and probably stupid, but i'm trying to run Adept_manager in 8.04. It keeps telling me that the database is locked (used by some other process). i've killled off all adept/apt processes but it's no use. I'm not usually an ubuntu user so i'm confused. (sourcemage user). Any ideas? I'm running as root so it should not be a permissions issue06:42
favrosudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:43
favrotacosarecool: ^06:43
CYREXneed help with something weird i am having. I usually install mysq admin, query browser find, either from adept manager or synaptic, but now they dont show, they only show when i do a aptitude search06:43
tacosarecoolWhat if it freezes?06:43
favro!aptfix | Bearcat06:43
ubottuBearcat: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:43
tacosarecoolCan I do kdesudo?06:43
ardchoilleBearcat: sounds to me like you have some process still using the database06:43
CYREXwhat i mean with all of this is that several packages are not showing on either synaptic or adept manager but they do show when i use aptitude06:43
Bearcatardchoille: right. the question is..wht process?06:43
vinciWufirst you have to know where is the icon is06:43
favrotacosarecool: that's what backups of files are for06:44
deftonehow do i rename a file that needs root ?06:44
tacosarecoolbut do I need to put sudo or kdesudo06:44
vinciWusudo cp files files06:44
favrodeftone: sudo mv -v filename newname06:44
Bearcatardchoille: doing a 'ps aux |grep ad' and 'ps aux |grep apt" show me nothing of relevence06:44
favrotacosarecool: if you are not opening a window then sudo06:44
tacosarecoolShould I close all the windows06:45
tacosarecoolYeah06:45
CYREXanybody?06:45
vinciWuCYREX: use synaptic06:46
CYREXVinciWu please read what i wrote06:46
vinciWuCYREX: sorry06:46
CYREXand yes i know...synaptic rocks06:47
vinciWumaybe you have to update your repository06:47
CYREXalready did06:47
ardchoilleCYREX: in synaptic, did you click the Reload button?06:47
CYREXi can see any package from aptitude but not from adept or synaptic06:47
vinciWuCYREX: reinstall synaptic?06:48
vinciWuCYREX: remove completely and reinstall06:49
vinciWuCYREX: or reconfigure it06:49
CYREXhehe vinci no06:50
CYREXits not synaptic or adepts fault06:50
vinciWuCYREX: and then i dont know, sorry06:50
CYREXbesides i think the problem is something else because synaptic is ubuntus manager and adept is kubuntus06:50
CYREXalready check sources.list06:51
CYREXalready did an aptitude update06:51
CYREXalready did a hard reset06:51
carlosliceahi I'm trying to make a bash script, it is my very first one and I've hit something I cannot understand, the first line of the script should be #!/bin/bash shouldn't it? i get the error that it's the wrong interpreter no such file or directory06:51
CYREXdo me a favor at least06:51
carlosliceatried /bin/sh too06:51
CYREXlook in synaptic or adept06:51
CYREXfor mysql06:51
vinciWuCYREX: ok06:52
CYREXthen look for the packages "mysq admin", "mysql gui tools" or "mysql query browser"06:52
carloslicea!bash06:52
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal06:52
CYREXor look for VLC06:52
favrocarloslicea: in terminal type   which bash06:52
CYREXlet me know if you find any of this06:53
CYREXif you dont then you have my same problem06:53
ardchoilleCYREX: you on Intrepid?06:53
carlosliceafavro: /bin/bash06:53
CYREXweird thing is, the count for all packages is correct06:53
CYREXyeap06:53
CYREX8.10 baby06:53
carlosliceafavro: now I'm confused! lol06:53
ardchoilleok06:53
CYREXgot 2 pcs here, one with ubuntu, another with kubuntu06:53
favroyou and me both... carloslicea06:53
vinciWuCYREX: ok, i found all of them06:54
ardchoillecarloslicea: are you sure the error isn't coming from something in the code of the script?06:54
CYREXyou did06:54
ardchoillecarloslicea: because #!/bin/bash is correct06:54
Ayabarathe digikam in the kubuntu repos are 0.9.x, right?06:54
carlosliceaardchoille: no I'm not actually, but shouldn't it tell me if the error is in the script?06:54
vinciWuCYREX: yes06:54
ardchoillecarloslicea: no06:54
carlosliceano?06:54
carlosliceaoh06:55
ardchoillecarloslicea: care to pastebin the script?06:55
ardchoille!paste06:55
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:55
favrocarloslicea: paste the script and we'll try and decipher it06:55
favro!paste06:55
CYREXok now is all weird since both have the same problem06:55
favro!lag06:55
CYREXdifferent PCs06:55
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag06:55
carlosliceaardchoille, favro: ok, it's actually like 3 lines long06:55
favrocarloslicea: 3 is ok here06:56
vinciWuCYREX: did you mean you can see it in aptitude?06:56
CYREXexactly06:56
CYREXif for example i do a "aptitude search vlc"06:56
CYREXi will see all the vlc packages06:56
CYREXbut if i look for them either on adept or synaptic i wont find any06:56
favrodoes apt-cache search do the same06:56
ardchoilleit should06:56
favro"should"06:57
CYREXnot only that but synaptic will give me the finger while adept will stick its tongue out06:57
favrohehe06:57
ardchoillehaha06:57
vinciWuCYREX: it's really weird06:57
CYREXi know..never seen adept stick its tongue out06:57
carlosliceafavro, ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66078/06:57
vinciWuCYREX: will you change other repository?06:57
CYREXjust kidding, well i guess i will work on this to see what the problem is06:57
CYREXdid 3 changes06:57
CYREXafter i got that problem06:58
CYREXi removed the cdrom link in the sources.list06:58
CYREXchecked again06:58
CYREXadded the winehq link06:58
CYREXcheck again06:58
CYREXnothing06:58
ardchoillecarloslicea: and you have given this script a ".sh" file extension and made it executable?06:58
CYREXeverytime i checked i did an update of course06:58
carlosliceaa\06:58
carlosliceaardchoille: yes i did both06:58
CYREXso my question is why can apt or aptitude SEE all packages, but not the graphical managers06:59
CYREXlet me do a ps -e maybe there is something there06:59
vinciWuCYREX: did you set the filter?06:59
favrocarloslicea: try a space after for06:59
carlosliceaardchoille: ls -l: -rwxr-xr-x 1 carloslicea carloslicea 123 2008-11-01 23:58 obtener.sh06:59
CYREXlet me check06:59
vinciWuCYREX: mine in search filter are all checked07:00
carlosliceafavro: still the same: "bash: ./obtener.sh: /bin/bash^M: intérprete incorrecto: No existe el fichero ó directorio" rougly wroing interpreter, the directory or file doesn't exist07:00
CYREXthank you vinci07:01
CYREXit was that07:01
CYREXbut the checked ons where oki07:01
crxyemso, I'm running 8.10 now, but for some reason every time I start firefox, it loads on top off panels, without a tool bar that would alow you to minimize or maximize etc.. any ideas ??07:01
CYREXit was the other tab07:01
CYREXthe section tab07:01
CYREXit was on exclude all07:01
carlosliceafavro, ardchoille: wait a minute! i think i know what's wrong07:01
favrocarloslicea: remove the #!/bin/bash and let it use the default sh07:01
CYREXput it on include all now it works07:01
carlosliceafavro: solved it, I was saving with the end of line of Windows (I was working with some people who uses windows", hence there was an extra character there (/r/n IIRC while in linux is just /n )07:03
vinciWuCYREX: haha, solved07:03
carlosliceafavro: thanks a lot07:03
favrocarloslicea: np :)07:03
CYREXwell the only thing not working in synaptic is the quick search, but for the normal Search button is good now07:03
CYREXmany thanks07:04
ardchoilleWindows? is that thing still around? ;)07:04
favroevil things never die...07:04
vinciWuCYREX: quick search will just search the results, and the search will search the whole repository07:04
CYREXam very sorry for all you kde adept manager lovers07:05
dr_williscarloslicea,  seen that issue MANY A TIME...07:05
CYREXbut that crap sucks07:05
CYREXcant find anything there07:05
Digcan I ask off topic question here?07:05
CYREXthank vinci07:05
CYREXdidnt know that07:05
ardchoilleDig: probably better in #kubuntu-offtopic07:05
vinciWuCYREX: ha i still use synaptic, adept is too crap07:05
CYREXsame07:05
CYREXeither that or terminal aptitude07:05
CYREXsynaptic manages much better packages, relations and shows in a TRUE user-friendly gui all the info07:06
carlosliceafavro: :)07:06
carlosliceadr_willis: have you? :P07:06
CYREXadept gives me the finger AND the tongue07:06
dr_willisyep.. it pays to not edit/transfer scripts to/from windows :)07:06
vinciWuCYREX: i just use aptitude few times, because im lazy07:06
CYREXwell vinci many thanks, take care07:07
carlosliceadr_willis: noted07:07
CYREXhehe07:07
vinciWuCYREX: you too07:07
dr_willisat least ya saw  the ^M  in the error message /bin/bash^M07:07
ardchoilledr_willis: I stared at that wondering what it was07:07
ardchoillectrl+M?07:07
dr_williswindows uses a Carrage return + Line feed... Linux just uses one of those..07:08
dr_willisMS using its own standard since dos days.. :)07:08
scarlethello one and all07:10
favro!hi07:10
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:10
mike_Quick 8.10 question? My wired connection is working but I can't see any way to edit that through gui - edit config from the taskbar only seems to allow add new - is this "correct"?07:10
favromike_: it has been mentioned before07:11
mike_k - is it intended to be fixed?07:11
scarlethow do how do you add a git repository to adept or synaptic?  I'm trying to install the drm via freedesktop's git repository and it tells me the drm directory already exists.  I thought if it was in the repositorys, it would update on its own.  I have version 2.3.1 and the intel graphics driver calls for >=2.407:12
mike_favro: k - is it intended to be fixed?07:12
favromike_: I guess the devs have the best intentions for all issues but time is the factor - in other words who knows at this early stage07:13
ilya_good day07:13
scarlethello ilya07:13
favromike_: you can manually edit the /etc/network/interfaces file07:13
deftonehow do i get rid of the Home folder on the task bar?07:13
mike_favro: ok thanks - I know that but in my old age I find I like gui's :-)07:14
favro:)07:14
crxyemdeftone, right click, should be a remove this ... option07:14
deftonewhat intel graphics chip do u have scarlet?07:14
Diganyone plays game on Linux?07:14
favro!games07:14
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php07:14
deftonewow that was too easy....lol..thanks crxyem07:14
crxyemnp07:15
favroright click ftw07:15
scarletdeftone:07:15
scarletHost bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)07:15
scarlet00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)07:15
ilya_ubbut, do you like default games from packages.ubuntu.com?07:15
scarlet00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)07:15
Digcool07:15
deftoneoh boy07:16
favro!tab | ilya_07:16
ubottuilya_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:16
deftonethat video chipset is blacklisted so ur gonna have problems just like me07:16
deftonei can't run compiz or anything fancy cause of that either....i hate it.07:16
scarletdeftone: why's it blacklisted?07:17
favrointel normally has good support - the blacklist file sometimes mentions the conflict07:17
scarletoy vey.....07:18
deftonebecause something about the accelerated graphics portion of that chip interferes with xorg...they both want to use it....there's a bunch of stuff on it...i can find it if you want to read it07:18
deftonei can't believe it's blacklist....there's a ton of people with that chipset....that's just not acceptable man....grrr07:19
scarletI've noticed that all the errors I get seem to lead back to xorg.  I get a whole bunch of EnumDisplayDevicesW errors when I launch wow....which just crashes07:19
deftonei was gonna go with mandriva because of that specific problem07:19
dr_willisit would be odd that an intel chipset woruld work properly with one disrto, and not others.. assuming the kernel versions are the same.07:20
scarletso would mandrive be better? or SuSe, or Debain or something?07:20
deftonemandriva works with Intel GM965 out of the box....why mandriva does and ubuntu doesn't is beyond my comprehension07:20
dr_williscould be some xorg version issues also.07:20
deftoneunfortunately mandriva is the only one i know that works.....i've read on this for about two weeks now.07:20
scarletI've spend weeks installing ever opengl support and trying to update drivers.....and it's all for not for a black listed chipset....07:21
favromandriva looks good in blue but that drake tools thingy is counterintuitive07:21
dr_willisunblacklist it and see if it works? :)07:21
favroback the file up first07:22
scarletuhhhhhhhhhhhh.....somehow,   I doubt it............I"m not a Linux Goddess...07:22
glade88can anyone reproduce a bug? click on "Add widgets" and in the add widget window, click on the drop menu to select any of the categories. The entries so appear are blank without an icon and/or name. Switching back to "All categories" still shows them blank.07:35
ardchoilleglade88: confirmed here yesterday07:36
glade88ardchoille: did you file a bug report?07:37
ardchoilleglade88: I didn't have time at the time07:37
glade88ardchoille: ok. thanks for confirming. I'll file it now :)07:37
ardchoilleThat was bug number 30 or so for me on kde4 and I was in a rush to restore Hardy to the system.07:37
ardchoilleglade88: if you do file it, let me know where it is and I'll log in and confirm it07:38
glade88ardchoille: I'll give you the link shortly07:38
ardchoilleok07:38
glade88ardchoille: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/29250907:42
ardchoilleglade88: done :)07:45
glade88ardchoille: thanks :)07:45
scarletwhy is kde4 so buggy?07:45
dr_willismakes it more fun07:45
glade88+107:46
Frekumaking new things is bound to be buggy07:46
favromaking buggy things isn't new tho07:46
ardchoilleglade88: yw07:47
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ardyhas anyone gotten kde to run on two xdisplays?07:55
digitalvectorzello.  i have a creative webcam live!...runs fine in cheese, but since i upgraded to 8.10, it will not work with kopete.  it shows the device and the driver (zc3xx) but dont' work.07:55
digitalvectorzany ideas?07:56
favro!webcam07:59
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:59
favrohope it's been updated07:59
dr_willisproberly not. :)08:01
doilgheashi why is there no more the option for add an activity on ibex?08:02
digitalvectorzis kde4.1 out yet?08:02
doilgheason/in ibex (8.10)08:03
favroand in hardy08:03
doilgheasno in hardy there are more activities08:04
doilgheasbut i cannt zoom out for add an activity on ibex with the menu right on top or is there another setting option for that somewhere else?08:05
favrodoilgheas: sorry - I meant kde4 is available in ibex and in hardy - for digitalvectorz08:05
doilgheasoh ok08:06
digitalvectorzlol thanks favro08:06
favronp :)08:06
digitalvectorzdoes kde4.1 have webcam support working for kopete?08:06
favroit "should" - did the link from ubottu help at all?08:07
digitalvectorzcause i had installed kopete before upgrading to 8.10, and the webcam worked well.  but after installing 8.1 and then installing kubuntu-desktop (after the upgrade) it stopped working08:07
digitalvectorzi've tried the supported cams link..and messed around there08:07
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com_hGood evening all, this might be a silly question, but my system was working all good, and I installed VMware Server, now even when I'm not running the VMware Server I seem to be getting a heap of hard drive activity, even when Kubuntu is idle, is there a task manager or some way I can see what is doing all the drive activity? apart from that the system seems to operating fine.08:17
dr_willishtop, top can show running processes/ussage08:18
glade88top08:18
glade88oh my.. lag08:18
JohnFlux2com_h: press ctrl+esc08:18
JohnFlux2but it doesn't show drive activity08:19
glade88neither does top08:20
JohnFlux2there's iotop - but i don't remember how useful it is08:20
JohnFlux2I would like to add i/o activity to the task manager  (i'm the maintainer)08:21
BleSSI upgraded to 8.10 and there is a bug on NetworkManager. how does solve it?08:22
BleSSmy network card left of working. it happens on both Ubuntu and Kubuntu 8.1008:22
BleSSbest solution by now => # apt-get remove network-manager; ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient308:22
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encephalitogenichttp://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=5bc1d1661d9c1173c82772dc7af2207008:38
vurvhey08:40
vurvi was upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid08:40
vurvit errored out @ 99%08:40
vurvwhat's the proper way to resume it?08:40
vurvi was using kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"08:40
Machtinwhat if you use sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?08:41
favromaybe   apt-get install -f08:42
Machtinencephalitogenic: oh come on..08:42
ardchoilleMachtin: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade will not upgrade to the nest release08:42
favro!spam | encephalitogenic08:42
ubottuencephalitogenic: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...08:42
Machtinthought he udpated his sources.list08:43
Machtinmy bad08:43
Machtin"do-release-upgrade"?08:43
vurveverything's already upgraded08:44
vurvsources changed, too08:44
vurvi'm doing the aptitude dist-upgrade08:44
vurvit's just removing a bunch of packages08:44
vurvit errored out @ 99% doing the install08:44
vurvso this should work, i guess08:44
vurvthis always happens to me during dist upgrades =\08:44
vurvheh08:44
Machtinhm08:44
favro!upgrade | vurv this is how to do it08:44
ubottuvurv this is how to do it: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:44
Machtinby the way.. where can i select the services which i want to be launched at startup?08:45
rkalittaanyone know how to handle forigin chars in command line?08:45
Machtinlike.. i e.g. installed vsftpd.. and i don't want it to start automatically08:45
vurvfavro: and, um.. yeah08:45
vurvalready was following the Kubuntu notes08:46
dr_willisdelete it from the system services runlevels08:46
vurvbut thanks?08:46
dr_willis!sysv08:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sysv08:46
corigoUpdated to 8.10 and now I can't seem to connect to my home wireless. Each and every time I configure WEP for an ASCII pass phrase, when I re-open the configuration it is back to default HEX08:46
zaishazahi. anyone else having graphical problems with kubuntu 8.10? i've got intel integrated graphics and when i use blender windows keep filling up with static.08:46
dr_willisHmm thers some sysv config tools in the repos.. not sure if any come with kubuntu08:46
ardchoille!sysvconf08:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sysvconf08:46
dr_willis!find sysv08:46
favro!info sysv-rc-conf08:47
ubottusysv-rc-conf (source: sysv-rc-conf): SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-6 (intrepid), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB08:47
dr_willissysvconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring init script links08:47
favrodr_willis: !find is borked unfortunately08:47
dr_willistheres also some command line tools   rc-Somthing.somthing08:47
favrosysv-rc-conf08:47
dr_willisI dont see that on my 8.10 setup favro  _ odd08:48
favro!info sysv-rc-conf08:48
favrosysv-rc-conf (source: sysv-rc-conf): SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-6 (intrepid), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB08:48
Machtinkay.08:48
Machtinthanks08:48
JohnFlux2zaishaza: you could try going to system settings and changing the Desktop->Advanced Options->Compositing type    to xrender08:52
JohnFlux2zaishaza: I think what you are seeing is an opengl thing08:53
JohnFlux2zaishaza: you need to either turn off opengl rendering in blender (if possible) or turn off off compositing opengl rendering08:53
christiananyone here have experience fixing scim + intrepid ibex for KDE4 input?08:53
zaishazaJohnFlux2: thanks. i'll try that08:55
dr_willisI recall removing scim. :) it was spamming in the backdground making konsole take 20+ sec to startup08:55
christianhaha, I don't have that problem08:55
christianI need to input japanese characters08:55
dr_willisThis was in the RC/Beta.. so it may be fixed by now. :) i got no need for scim so i dident pay much attention to it08:55
christianworks fine for GTK, KDE3 apps, not KDE4 (or OO.org)08:55
christianwhich is particularly annoying since Kiten (Japanese dictionary) is KDE408:56
zaishazachanging to xrender didn't help. my screen still keeps filling up with static when i use blender.09:00
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administratorwas wondering if someone could tell me how to change my name?09:03
administratorin Kubuntu 8.1009:03
administratorchange from administrator@computer to something else@computer09:04
administratorno one knows :(?09:05
favroyep09:05
nekostari would help you but i've already been banned in two chans for that sorry ^^09:05
favrothat would need you to make another user and login as that user afaik09:06
administratorthis is the tech support channel right?09:06
nekostarfree support yes09:06
favronekostar: you just don't get how it works here09:06
nekostaralso ubuntuforums.org is quite good.09:06
administratoralright thank you09:06
administratorneko, for a second I thought you were talking about 4chan or something09:07
nekostaradministrator basically most of us use ubuntu or one of its variants, and we hang out and help ppl who need it.09:07
nekostarlol adhe9009:07
nekostarer administrator rather :P09:07
administratorok, so just make a new user09:07
nekostaradministrator so say you learn a few tricks, perhaps you hang out and end up helping favro one day ;)09:07
nekostaryes09:07
administratorheh, will do09:07
administratorthanks09:07
nekostarmake sure to add that user to groups admin cdrom um few others09:07
nekostarthere's a nice gui tool in the panel.. i think its settings or something dont recall offhand ^^09:08
administratortalking foreign language to me09:08
nekostar[cli is not hard either though]09:08
nekostarhm09:08
administratorgroups09:08
nekostarok on the bottom left of the screen, click the menu bit.09:08
administratorno groups in system settings09:08
nekostartype groups or user09:08
nekostargimme one sec09:08
administratorgroupware wizard09:08
administratorI'm on 8.10 kubuntu09:09
nekostarsrry not in my kde one right now. looking it up online09:10
administratorI'm retarded09:10
administratorhad no luck on google09:10
nekostaryou dont mean in irc or just the machine name do you?09:10
corigo2Updated to 8.10 and now I can't seem to connect to my home wireless. Each and every time I configure WEP for an ASCII pass phrase, when I re-open the configuration it is back to default HEX09:10
nekostari'm assuming you mean the name you log in with, right administrator ?09:11
administratoryes09:11
administratoradministrator@computer09:11
nekostarcorigo2 sometimes you need to do it all in /etc/network/interfaces manually for ssid, etc.09:11
nekostarok gimme a second then09:11
administratorwant to change 'administator' to Superman or something09:11
administratorlooking for this new user thing09:12
corigo2nekostar: I though 8.10 was all about easier networking. What the hell is that?09:12
favro!adduser09:12
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo09:12
administratoryou sure the WEP is on ASCII? are you sure you have ASCII?09:12
administratorworked fine for me09:12
administratorthanks favro09:12
favronp09:13
nekostarah yes system settings09:13
nekostarlol09:13
corigo2I just reset the WEP to HEX, but while I was on the other computer changing the WEP on the wireless the Network Icon disappeared from my task bar.09:13
nekostaranyway its still true corigo09:13
nekostarcorigo2 rather09:13
nekostaranyway i'm out09:13
administrator!adduser kubuntu09:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about adduser kubuntu09:14
administratorhm09:14
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto administrator09:14
administratorno User/Group setting09:15
administratorah09:16
administratorit's called Kuser09:17
corigo2Now when I try to launch Network Settings it doesn't recognize my distro and only lists Hardy Heron as the highest Kubunt/Ubuntu distro09:17
administrator!kuser09:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kuser09:17
corigo2How do I launch a GUI text editor from the command line... and open the target file?09:17
favro!info kuser09:18
ubottukuser (source: kdeadmin): user and group administration tool for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 236 kB, installed size 772 kB09:18
corigo2Kate for example... so I can edit etc/network/interface09:18
bazhangkdesu kate corigo209:18
administratorsudo kate and then the file location09:18
bazhangnot sudo09:18
administratorsudo /make/me/a/sandwich09:18
administrator.txt09:18
administratorwhat's the difference09:19
corigo2I am already su root09:19
administratoroh09:19
corigo2kate isn't launching09:19
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favro!kdesu09:20
ubottuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)09:20
xp-killercan kopete keep a history of conversations?09:21
jussi01xp-killer: yes, there is a history plugin09:21
administratorcan I kdesu apt-get?09:21
xp-killerwhere do i activat it?09:21
jussi01xp-killer: settings - configure - plugins09:23
ardchoilleadministrator: kdesu is for gui apps, use sudo for cli apps on the command line09:23
administratorwonder why they differentiate it09:23
administratorwell, thanks for help09:24
ardchoilleadministrator:  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why09:24
administratorI read it09:24
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favrokdesu is graphical apps are handle as the should be - sudo is for no graphics09:24
xp-killerjussi01: ok.can kopete save my friends smileys and use them after ?09:24
corigoI don't understand this. I had a perfectly good working Kubuntu. Wireless networking was fine. I upgrade and now it doesn't work. Is this Microsoft?09:24
administratoryes, its kind of like don't touch the fire or you'll get burned09:25
administratorI was just curious why sudo doesn't work for everything09:25
jussi01xp-killer: not sure, havent used it much09:25
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administratoroh well, off to bed with me09:25
xp-killerdaddy: how to change name? lol09:27
favro /nick newnick09:27
favroxp-killer: ^09:27
xp-killera o k09:28
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elwoodhi guys09:29
elwoodi need help to use cmake with a plasmoid...i'm new to cmake and i get error :)09:29
favrothe error elwood ?09:30
elwoodfavro: i'm pasting09:30
daddy_is_meany idea how to configure the trackpoint of my toshibha ?09:30
corigoWell, switching WEP to HEX doesn't seem to help. Wireless won't connect09:31
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deftonehey how do i install compiz??09:31
favro!wifi | corigo maybe this will help09:31
ubottucorigo maybe this will help: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:31
elwoodfavro: http://pastebin.com/d578e3cca09:31
favro!compiz | deftone intrepid has its' own compositor tho09:32
ubottudeftone intrepid has its' own compositor tho: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion09:32
elwoodfavro: i have created the  dir "build" as in the installation note. but i'm missing something09:33
favroelwood: are you in the right directory?09:33
elwoodfavro: i can go back into previous09:34
favroelwood: CMake Error: The source directory "/opt/plasma/plasma-weatherforecast-0.2/build" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.09:35
elwoodfavro: and this is the awful http://pastebin.com/d7244de309:35
favroseems to be the prob09:35
elwoodfavro: i don't know how works this cmake....i'm missing something?09:37
elwoodit's missing the path to the cmake?09:38
corigofavro: ? !wifi.... ?09:38
favrocorigo: <corigo> Well, switching WEP to HEX doesn't seem to help. Wireless won't connect09:39
corigofavro: ....09:40
elwoodok i solved :) missing the libqt4-dev09:40
favroelwood: CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:72 (MESSAGE): - cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config`  - maybe not use the kde4 config bit - I am vague on cmake tho09:40
favrocorigo: you were having wifi troubles from what I read - that link is my total knowledge on wifi - I prefer speed an security.. hehe09:42
johnniehello09:42
johnnieis there chinese ?09:42
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dr_willis!cn09:43
jussi01!cn | johnnie09:43
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:43
ubottujohnnie: please see above09:43
johnniethink09:43
johnniethanks09:43
corigoWhat I don't understand is why the icon keeps disappearing. How do I relaunch the Network Manager when it goes away? I can't find it in the applications. Only the old version which doesn't recognize 8.10 II as a valid version09:44
corigoNow I've even lost the KDE button to navigate to the applications at all.09:46
favrocorigo: is your cpu maxed out - top will tell09:46
DigActually i have problem while installing multiple languages in a single machine(@8.10). System language is English. Most of them are fine,  but for example compiled errors are mixed.09:46
corigofavro: doing what? I'm not running any applicatiosn09:47
favrocorigo: it might be xorg maxing the cpu - I say might be09:47
corigoNo. 4-8%09:48
favrohence loosing stuff when it redraws09:48
favrok09:48
corigoxorg 1-2%09:48
Tm_Thi kids09:49
elwoodmy xorg is 8-1009:49
lordhelmethey all. i just updated to intrepid and my wallpaper switching from the commandline doesn't work anymore. i used to use dcop but there is no more kdesktop for it to talk to. how can i switch desktops from the command line?09:50
lordhelmetrather desktop wallpapers09:50
corigofavro: I've got a nice T61 with 2G ram and dual core 64bit Intel.09:50
corigoAnd it's all useless if I can't connect to the network09:51
asfaki like my desktop widget locked. But whenever i restart the pc, they get unlocked.09:51
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favrocorigo: sorry but I know 4/5ths of bugger all about wireless - does the card show in lspci09:52
corigoThe system sees and recognizes the card, just won't connect to wireless09:53
jussi01corigo: which card is it?09:53
daddy_is_meany idea how to configure the trackpoint of my toshibha ? i always geht unwanted chars while writing. this really sucks :( sometimes directly after boot into rl 1. sometimes keyboard-setup helps, but not withn kde in intrepid09:54
corigoLet's be clear. All of this was working absolutely fine 2 hours ago before the 8.10 II update09:54
jussi01corigo: I know, please tell me which wireless card.09:55
lordhelmetno way to change wallpaper from command line?09:57
* daddy_is_me wants to configure the trackpoint of his toshiba in67zujhm intrepid09:57
daddy_is_mehow can i do this ?09:57
corigojussi01: anyway to get Kubuntu to tell me?09:58
dr_willislordhelmet,  theres several wallpaper setting command line tools out...09:58
dr_willisesetroot is one.09:58
dr_williskde4 may have its own09:58
Dig!au10:00
ubottuau is the Australian LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-au10:00
obf213is there a way to but apps like stick notes on a plasmoid layer10:00
lordhelmetdr_willis: i used dcop before and it worked great.10:00
scarletis there a spanning burn app for linux?10:00
obf213so they only show up with the layer?10:00
favrocorigo: lspci   will tell10:01
gmthas anyone gotten bluetooth working in the latest release?10:01
jussi01gmt: its broken, willl be fixed soon.10:02
corigojussi01: Intel 4965 AG10:03
gmtjussi01: how do i install bluez-gnome?10:03
jussi01corigo: from the ubuntu release notes: The version of the iwlagn wireless driver for Intel 4965 wireless chipsets included in Linux kernel version 2.6.27 causes kernel panics when used with 802.11n or 802.11g networks. Users affected by this issue can install the linux-backports-modules-intrepid package, to install a newer version of this driver that corrects the bug10:03
lifestreamHi hi, I  was just trying to install Kubuntu, but on the Partitioning screen, it didn't list any disks at all. Is this a known problem? (I've been using Ubuntu for about  3 years, but anyway ^^; )10:03
jussi01corigo: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/81010:04
christian86Morning, i got problems with intrepid and static ip configuration :(10:05
obf213hi im trying to get dual monitors working, theyre not right now, and I know why, I need to change the virtual size, can't find xorg.conf did they move it?10:05
jussi01christian86: know issue: KNetworkManager does not recognise static IP connections at this time. This issue only occurs for some, and not all. Bug 28076210:06
Under_WrapsHi, I just tried to start my baby and it tells me "acpi: aborted because junk in compressed archive", "invalid compressed format (err=1)", "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block". What can I do?10:06
favrochristian86: want to set it up manually?10:07
christian86jussi01 but even when i open /network/interfaces and set iface eth0 inet static and then fill in adress netmask and gateway, my network is crashed10:07
christian86favro yes i want coz i've got router with ip forward10:08
favrochristian86: I'll paste what I use - change the numbers accordingly10:08
favroone min10:09
christian86for sure i will adjust adresses ;)10:10
favrochristian86: http://pastebin.com/m2c28170110:11
christian86favro kk ty, does network reload its config itself?10:11
favrochristian86: no - after editing the file do   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:12
annmaJontheEchidna: ping10:12
christian86favro: ah but what you mean with "network 192.168.0.0" ??10:13
Tm_Thi annma10:13
favroobf213: it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - caps are important10:13
annmaTm_T: hi10:13
annmado you have the new KUbuntu and kdeedu Tm_T by any chance?10:13
Tm_Tannma: I haven't compiled kdeedu yet10:14
* Tm_T lives in trunk land10:14
corigoOk, so how do I get them?10:14
annmacompiled?10:14
annmaah no, I am interested in KUbuntu stuff Tm_T10:14
annmaSSJ_GZ: you use KUbuntu?10:14
favrochristian86: that is "the base" - the router (gateway) is 192.168.0.1 etc10:14
Tm_Tannma: hmmm, I don't have them installed but I guess I can, how can I help?10:14
* annma looks for a victim10:14
SSJ_GZannma: yep10:15
annmaI need someone to check KHangMan Tm_T10:15
christian86favro: ah ok, my router ip is 192.168.2.1 so network is 192.168.2.0 ?!10:15
annmaKHangMan crashes10:15
lordhelmetbah apparently i can't set the wallpaper from the command line yet...10:15
annmaI need to know if it has data with it10:15
favrochristian86: I would think it would be yes10:15
Tm_Tannma: roger, I'll see how it goes here10:15
annmaI spoke to JontheEchidna about it a few weeks ago but it seems to have gone to void10:16
christian86favro: kk i will restart network, ty very MUCH!!! :)10:17
favroluck10:17
annmaI need to blog about it10:17
Tm_Tannma: ok, starting it10:17
BleSSmy firefox shows ugly after to updating to 8.1010:18
annmaTm_T: you need only khangman and not kanagram10:19
gmtgreat, how about bluetooth pand10:20
gmtanybody?10:20
jussi01BleSS: install gtk-qt-engine10:20
christian86favro: network can't be resetted look what my konsole tells me: http://pastebin.com/d419fb14310:21
BleSSjussi01: it's already installed10:21
jussi01BleSS: system settings - appearance - gtk apps10:22
BleSSjussi01: yes, I had tested also that, in addition there is a part where it names to firefox but it isn't solved10:22
jussi01BleSS: you need to realise its a not a kde app, so there are elements that wont look the same/nice.10:23
gmthas pand been removed from the bluez stack?10:24
Dragonathhey, on ati cards is the mesa rendering basically the same thing I get when I use the open source ati driver?10:24
BleSSjussi01: yes, but there is *install scrollbar fix* to show correctly firefox that worked well on the anterior version but it doesn't works now :(10:24
favrochristian86: can you paste /etc/network/interfaces?10:24
Tm_Tannma: crash on start10:25
annmaI talked to JontheEchidna weeks ago about it10:25
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annmaI spent hours on that, he wasted my time10:25
annmaand now he did not fix it10:25
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annmaTHANKS KUBUNTU10:26
Noisek7Kubuntu Splash screen fix?10:26
Tm_Tannma: wanna crashtrace?10:26
christian86favro: kk done: http://pastebin.com/d31db8d4110:26
favrok10:26
annmano10:26
Tm_Troger10:26
annmathis will go to blog10:26
Tm_Tannma: #kubuntu-devel for developer stuff btw (:)10:27
annmawhat should I do with the users?10:27
annmareallyt10:27
larsivi_hi - with intrepid I don't discover any wireless networks - tried wicd in addition to knetworkmanager10:27
Tm_Tannma: yeah, is this reported?10:27
favrochristian86: there are two d's in address10:27
larsivi_(kubuntu intrepid is so far a horrible experience)10:27
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christian86favro: narf im german and address is spelled with only one 'd' xD10:28
annmawhere10:28
favrohehe10:28
annmaTm_T: I talked to lengths to JontheEchidna10:28
Tm_Tannma: in launchpad10:28
annmaI can't do that myself10:28
Tm_Troger10:28
annmathe devel issued a bug report to ME and I talked to him for hours10:28
annmaI talked to Debian people10:28
larsivi_what may be wrong with my wireless?10:28
annmawhat should I do more if the devel is notified Tm_T10:30
christianfavro very nice, ty for help, working now :)10:30
obf213hmm so why does my krunner not do calculations10:30
favrochristian86: well done :)10:31
corigoWhat happened, where is the Adept manager for viewing all the different files?10:34
corigoall I see is the Application Installer10:35
micha_apt-get dist-upgrade 816 upgraded, 224 newly installed, 32 to remove and 1 not upgraded. is that save to do after editing the /etc/apt/sourceslist file10:36
favromicha_: you shouldn't have to edit the sources10:37
micha_well i did ... but it sounds like a lot of packages10:38
larsivi_just noting that upgrading did not work very well for me10:38
larsivi_the number of packages isn't a problem, but there certainly are quality problems10:38
micha_737MB of archives10:38
snikkeri can't set iso-8859-15 charset, i've tried with "sudo locale-gen MYLANG", but it doesn't work, can you help me?10:39
micha_so you say keep what you have or download the .iso and do a new install?10:39
favromicha_: you cold do   df -h   and add up the space used before upgrade10:40
larsivi_micha_: they claim it should work, so I dunno - if I had known this I had staid away from intrepid for a while10:40
micha_favro: it is not a question of space but of savety ... i would like to use the system after the dist-upgrade :)10:41
favroI always prefer a fresh install - but that's me10:41
larsivi_micha_: I upgraded yesterday, and I still can't call the system usable10:41
micha_ok good to know larsivi i don't like kde4 at that state anyway10:42
larsivi_micha_: doesn't look like kde4 issues really10:42
micha_well every half year new install ... that sounds more like xp :) favro10:43
favromicha_: 'cause it is there doesn't mean you have to use it...10:43
favroI still use some dapper10:44
micha_well thanks anyway ... i might have to use another distro if that stays that way10:44
favromicha_: most distos have regular releases10:44
micha_i use sidux on my privat box and that is a rolling relase ... and i love it10:45
micha_favro: you are right with kubuntu the best way is a fresh install ... but that is kind of sad10:46
favromicha_: so theoretically the rolling release scheme means you could be updating an app aday?10:46
Tm_Terrr10:46
micha_don't get me wrong i love *buntu10:47
Tm_Tmicha_: favro: I basicly do fresh install10:47
micha_favro: yes sometimes twice a day ...10:47
Tm_T+never10:47
corigohow do I get the Linux Backports?10:47
favrohehe10:47
corigofor Intrepid?10:47
favro!backports10:47
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging10:47
micha_well thanks favro ... downloading the 8.10.iso now ...10:48
favroluck :)10:48
micha_well that should work :)10:49
micha_if that doesn't .... :(10:49
favroI use a separate home partition to save some config work with new installs10:49
jazmanany good email clinet easy toset up ;ike outlook expres in intrepid10:51
micha_well this is my work box ... so if i like the live cd i might install ... if not ... well i can live with the 8.04 version ...10:51
micha_i use thunderbird or icedove jazman10:52
jazmani hace had  those but cant sent email so i use claws but that sucks10:52
micha_apt-cache search mail will give you a list of available packages jazman10:52
robinrhi. did anyone succeed in getting openvpn to start using the network applet?10:53
micha_jazman: than your set up is not right ... you should be able to send mail ... that is one of the main featchers of a mail client10:53
jazmaniknow most shoulp be easy to set up but kmail i cant get to send but i can recieve using pop 310:54
micha_well i had trouble with kmail as well and i like thunderbird better anyway10:56
micha_so got to go ... cu10:57
jazmancya10:57
jazmanany one else got an idea with thunderbird i could not send mail10:57
waelhello10:58
waeli need help10:58
larsivi_heh - sending and receiving mails (using kmail) is one of the things that _do_ work :P10:59
jazmani can recieve but not send10:59
jazmaneven in win i cant send usiong thunderbird11:00
larsivi_have you created the necessary out profiles?11:00
jazmanyep11:01
jazmanalwys get erros that why i use claws as it works11:01
robinrjazman: what errors do you get?11:02
jazmancant rember now removed kmail11:02
tarelerulzThis has been keeping for using konqueror .  Firefox has this feature of showing your downloads .  How do you tell konqueor to download the movie/video file and use totem to watch it ?11:02
jazmankong was ok with kde with kaffine11:03
acer_HI11:05
waelhi11:05
jazmanintrepid is crap just installed thunderbird cant the start icon11:05
jazmantime to go to gnome11:05
waeli need kde for ubuntu11:06
ubuntu[connected by a LiveCD] my account has expired, now i can't login...?11:06
acer_UBUNTU IS VERY FOND LINUX IN POLAND]11:06
dr_willisubuntu Hih?11:06
acer_WITH KDE411:06
ubuntu:( hi11:06
zwd321081^_^11:07
ubuntu?11:07
* dr_willis points acer_ to his caps lock key11:07
acer_ok11:07
zwd321081I just installed kubuntu :)11:07
ubuntuhih?11:07
favro!ghost | ubuntu11:09
ubottuubuntu: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>11:09
dr_willisHmm..   anyone care to see if they can get to   http://www.xmms.org   ?11:09
favroit's loading11:09
favroslow net atm11:10
Ahrihi, is there any way to make kubuntu use shortname=mixed when mounting my vfat usb device?11:10
ubuntufreezes at loading screen... hey all, i just noticed this morning that my 6 month'd user account which was the only one has expired today? can't login in so i couldn't use CHAGE command to make t'things right or prolonged at least11:10
favrodr_willis: seems xxms.org might be down11:11
victim[v]jazman: I've just installed Thunderbird using Adept, I found a new Thunderbird icon in K / Applications / Internet / Mail client - it even has a pretty picture11:11
ubuntuany suggestions please11:11
favroor xmms even11:11
dr_willisfavro,  ok.. i grabbed some source code from it earlier.. got it to compile.. but was going to check if it was the latest..11:11
Ahrii basically want a kubuntu solution for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29156811:11
dr_willisAhri,  you could always mount the things manually11:12
jazmansorry not on intrepid11:12
ubuntuany pages for the situation?11:13
jazmanmayhve go back to hardy11:13
ubuntufor the expired accounts11:13
binMonkeyhi, guys.11:13
binMonkeyafter upgrade to hardy i am missing libgnutls.so.13.  streamtuner won't work.  i don't know if anything else is affected yet.  how do i fix it?11:14
dr_willisubuntu expired accounts for what exactly?11:15
Ahrisorry i got d/c, did anyone have any pointers about my vfat question?11:15
dr_willisAhri,  you could always mount the things manually11:15
wershow do I change the military time format on korganizer to 12 hr format?11:16
russianhello11:17
russianHow do I trun joins and parts off in Konversation?11:17
tarelerulzWhen you tell konqueor to use vlc or some other player to play video . Where does it put the file .  it not in tmp11:17
Ahridr_willis: i'm trying to convert my family over to using linux; mounting manually is not an option11:17
dr_willisYou may tell us the reasons you are trying to mount things differently.11:18
binMonkeyafter upgrade to hardy i am missing libgnutls.so.13.  streamtuner won't work.  i don't know if anything else is affected yet.  how do i fix it?11:18
Ahridr_willis: amarok uses the iPod db to look for files. this db contains valid listings such as XYZ.mp3. due to vfat's (bad) option of shortname=lower though, this file is represented as "xyz.mp3" so amarok can't find it11:19
russianHow do you turn off joins and parts in konversation?11:20
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ubuntuwhy can't i get answers? how many reasons there make me can not get the answers ?11:20
Russianme neither =/11:21
ubuntuok i sse that i should check the forums first.. there was only one entry i could find and it wasn't replied there in ubuntu forums.11:22
dr_willisubuntu you are not really clear on your questions.. and you may want to change nicks also...11:22
ubuntualright thanks to hear that11:23
reesehi! is there a way to do a permanent sudo mount --bind ? or at least a way to run a sudo script at startup?11:23
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mick_2008ok. i can't log in to my user account in Kubuntu Hardy cos i get that message "Your account has expired, plz contact your blah..."11:25
mick_2008and..11:25
dr_willisAhri,  there might be some settings.changes you can do with the hal rules.. under gnome you can set properteries for devices to use different options.. but i dont know about kde411:25
favroreese: /etc/fstab is for mounting at boot - is that what you're doing?11:25
mick_2008there was only one user which i can log in instead root11:25
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mick_2008now how can' i fix the account expiring time without log in, or any other ways to be able to log in again...?11:26
favromick_2008: there shouldn't be a time limit for a kubuntu user11:26
dr_willismick_2008,   perhaps you shoudl boot to rescue/reovery mode and as root set the users password again?  theres some sort of auto-expire feature in the passwords/login stuff.. but i did not think it was enabled by default11:26
favroohh11:27
reesefavro, I'm binding two folders.. so I just write my sudo mount --bind dir1 dir2 command in /etc/fstab or is there a special syntax?11:27
mick_2008i enabled it. thank i didin know it was possible by Recov. Mode.11:27
favroreese: sorry - I don't know about that - was talking about partitions11:28
dr_willisAhri,   this site mentions hal. and some options, but im not sure on how you change them  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85737411:28
tarelerulzI have konqueror and I can't seem to make the find file work.   What can I do ? is that normal11:30
reeseis it ok to insert my sudo script in /etc/rc.local ,in order to run it at startup?11:32
corigoOk, I've installed the intrepid backport_modules, but Network Manager still crashes every time I try to configure the WEP. Where do I report !bugs?11:33
dr_willisreese,  thats one place to put commands...11:33
corigo!bug11:33
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots11:33
dr_willisreese,  no idea what the fstab entry for sich a command sould be.. it is NOT just the 'command' you used11:33
reesedr_willis, so I'll just put sudo mount --bind dir1 dir2 in /etc/rc.local , then, thanks. without the "sudo", right?11:34
dr_willisno need for sudo in rc.loca11:36
Russianso can anyone tell me how I trun off joins and parts messages in konversation?11:39
Russiannevermind =)11:41
danishhy allz11:42
danishlike netstat11:42
danishprog in ubuntu11:42
danishis any11:42
danishhellllllllllllllo11:43
danishany 1 home11:43
favronetstat works in kubuntu11:43
gilles_hi . I don't see on kubuntu 8.04 the zone in adept to upgrade to 8.1011:44
JohnFlux2danish: welcome to the internet.  I hope you enjoy your stay.11:45
gsa10132Hmm.. Im trying to rip a record to mp3 with K3b.. but keep getting an error connected with lame.. "Command failed: lame -h --tt --ta --tl --ty 0 --tc - /home/joe/Temp/blablabla.mp3" anyone knows what's missing?11:50
robinrgsa10132: apt-get install lame11:52
gsa10132robinr: thanks, just did that 2 secs ago, hehe :)11:52
gsa10132will try it out now11:52
gilles_where is the config file for adept ?11:53
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gsa10132now we are talking :) Thanks robinr11:55
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favrogilles_: you need to select to upgrade to non lts - not using kde atm to check how11:58
kopertonhi guys11:59
ubuntuhello12:02
ilyahello12:02
ubuntui would know the syste; requirements for kubuntu please?12:03
ilyawhat kind of requirements?12:03
ubuntuh;;12:04
favro256mb mem but more is better12:04
Ahrihow would i do what's recommended in this thread, but for kubuntu? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49712112:04
ubuntufor example the ram processor speed12:04
ubuntumy config is12:04
ubuntu512MB Ram, 30GB HDD and AMD Sempron 1.8GHz12:05
favroshould be fine12:06
ubuntuit is ok for kubuntu 8.10?12:06
ilya384 RAM, 4GB Hard.12:06
ubuntuand i do not use compiz12:06
ubuntumy graphic card do not support it12:07
ilyaI think it is enought12:07
kopertongraphic card?12:07
JohnFlux2ubuntu: which card?12:07
ubuntuilya what you config?12:07
ubuntuVIA Unichrome S3G12:07
ilyaOne time I install kubuntu on the machine with 256 MB RAM. And it worked.12:07
ubuntuit worked ok but it is not slow?12:08
ilyaMy config 2993 Pentium, 128MB Graphic, 1024MB RAM12:08
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ubuntuok12:08
ubuntui hope my config is ok for kubuntu12:09
ilyai think so12:09
kopertonubuntu: hey i have found out a topic where they say your card can run compiz look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46717812:09
JohnFlux2ubuntu: google suggests a few problems with that card for 2 years ago12:09
JohnFlux2ubuntu: dunno if it's okay now12:10
JohnFlux2koperton:  i was just looking at that12:10
ubuntukubuntu 8.10 is so beautiful12:10
JohnFlux2koperton:  it's a year and half ago12:10
ubuntureally12:10
kopertonJohnFlux2: it should work compiz is compiz12:10
ilyaubuntu, what OS do you use at this moment?12:10
kopertonJohnFlux2: i *think*12:11
ubuntukubuntu live-cd ^^12:11
JohnFlux2ubuntu: there's lots of 'secret12:11
JohnFlux2ubuntu: there's lots of 'secret' key combinations12:12
JohnFlux2ubuntu: like try  ctrl+F1012:12
ubuntuctrl +F10 m nothing12:12
JontheEchidnahttps://launchpad.net/bugs/11504812:13
Ahriwhat's the equivalent of mediamanager in kde4?12:13
JontheEchidnaoops12:13
JontheEchidnawrong chan12:14
ubuntuso not problem that i install kubuntu 8.10 on ;y pc12:14
ubuntuok i go now install kubuntu 8.10 on my pc yeah12:15
* koperton will stay with 8.0412:15
sapwhat is the commad to install kubuntu on top of ubuntu 8.1012:16
dr_willis!upgrade | sap12:16
ubottusap: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:16
sapits not an upgrade12:16
dr_willis:_ instll the kubntu-desktop package.. if you want kde12:16
dr_willis!kde12:16
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde412:16
ubuntuand12:17
ubuntuhave you got kubuntu 8.10 m it is stablem not problemsM12:17
ubuntu?12:17
dr_willisYou may want to try to ask clearer questions.12:18
dr_willis8.10 has been working very well for me.12:18
ubuntuok12:19
ubuntuand how i install kubuntu 8.10 from live-cd ?12:20
dr_willisThe kubuntu live cd.. installs kde as the default desktop12:20
ubuntuah yes12:22
ilyadr_willis: i have one problem with the grub12:22
sapi cant install kubuntu-desktop it asks for language-selector-qt and that asks for language-selector-common 0.3.11 while 0.3.17 is installed what do  i do12:23
sapcan i get language-selector-qt 0.3.1712:24
robinrhow to I install "openssh-devel" or whatever it is called12:24
dr_willissap,  i wold do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' first. then try again12:24
saphmm12:24
ari_stressrobinr: search first: sudo apt-cache search openssh, then: sudo apt-get install the-pachage-name12:25
ilyaevery time i install windows it remove grub and i can't boot into kubuntu12:25
dr_willisilya,  install indows first, then linux normally..12:25
dr_willis!fixgrub | ilya12:25
ubottuilya: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:25
dr_willisilya,  you will need to boot a live cd, and reinstal grub.12:25
sharkkhi i just installed kubuntu 8.10, there is a way to make folder view fullscreen?12:26
ubuntukubuntu contain so many option, it's few difficult for beggin but it's so cool graphicly12:28
robinrari_stress: ok, thanks12:28
ilyadr_willis: thanks12:28
robinrwhy don't I see those in adept?12:28
dr_willistheres been a few people in here saying not every package was showing in adept today...12:29
dr_willistry synaptic perhaps?12:29
dr_willisor just use the command line12:29
ilyaubuntu: yes it's the beautifulest12:30
ubuntui'm12:30
ubuntu:D12:30
robinrdr_willis: yea, I'm playing stupid (partly) to figure out what it would be for a newbie12:32
ubuntui hope again , kubuntu could not slow on my pc12:32
robinr(and partly because I am)12:32
ilyasharkk: where you got 8.10?12:32
Dealer2mogetteI've installed ubuntu 8.10 on a macbook pro but i have some resolution problem ! is there people who can help me ?12:34
kopertonDealer2mogette: graphic card nvidia?12:35
Dealer2mogetteyes12:35
kopertonah that is the problem i think you have to set better the driver12:35
kopertoni know there is some problem with new kernel and nvidia cards12:36
kopertonbut you can fix easly12:36
Dealer2mogettehow ?12:36
kopertoni don't know how because i have an intel but i think you could find out on google on in our forum12:36
ilyaDealer2modette: i had so problem on a usual PC, but there was little thing in settings12:38
sharkkilya: i just got it from the automatic update tool12:38
DarkSmokeguys12:38
DarkSmokeim tyring to compile wine12:39
ilyasharkk: and i'm waiting free cd... ((12:39
DarkSmokebut its continuing to telling me that i don't have freetype :/12:39
Dealer2mogetteilya: i can't do anything ! because on my screen i see 1% of the real screen !12:39
ilyaDarkSmoke: install freetype12:39
DarkSmokeinstalled it12:39
Dealer2mogettethe "start menu" can't be full displayed12:39
DarkSmokeboth freetype and the devfiles12:40
ilyaDealer2mogette: bad12:40
Dealer2mogetteit's horrible :(12:40
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dr_willisUpgrde or clean install?12:40
Dealer2mogettedr_willis: who ?12:41
ilyaDarkSmoke: what version of wine?12:41
dr_williseveryone. :) heh12:41
victim[v]Dealer2mogette: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098672.0 second post may help you12:41
kopertonDealer2mogette: have you seen here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/81012:41
Dealer2mogetteok thanks !12:41
kopertonbetter http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support12:42
ilyadr_willis: and you?12:42
dr_willisi am  one upgrade that worked, one that failed... and 2 clean installs that worked fine12:42
dr_willisfor nvidia cards...12:42
dr_willisso  have 2 nvidia, and 1 fglrx system going right now12:43
Greenerywhy konqueror sometimes kept giving "Connection to Server Refused" error when opening website, or sometimes it loads a site but incomplete. I haven't receive that kind of error with Mozilla Firefox at all.12:44
Dealer2mogettevictim[v]: how can i access to the console ? (i can't log me in gui) because of the resolution12:44
Greenerysometime, the error message is "Unknow Host"12:45
ilyaGreenery: my konqueror doesn't work with "http:" at all  :(12:45
victim[v]Dealer2mogette: ctr alt F112:46
Greeneryilya: really? so you can't surf at all with konqueror?12:46
Dealer2mogettethanks victim[v]12:46
ilyaGreenery: really. I need to use firefox.12:46
victim[v]Dealer2mogette: you may need to login, you can return to the desktop with "alt F7"12:46
Dealer2mogetteok i will try !12:47
DragnslcrHm, maybe 8.10 is going to force me to stop using my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse12:47
Greeneryilya: hope someone can help to fix your problem, including mine. It's really annoying with the error message or incomplete website being loaded. I really love Konqueror12:48
ilyaGreenery: it load site icon but print "Could not connect to host http://***********."12:48
kopertonGreenery: omg another konqueror web browser user i thinked i was alone12:49
* koperton loves konqui12:49
ilyaGreenery: koperton: i love konqueror too it very comfortable and friendly12:49
kopertoni have only a problem with mediafire.com12:50
kopertonwith konqueror i can't upload12:50
tikladocan i install stumble upon to konqueror?12:50
DarkSmokeilya:  i had to make a folder to  link the 32bit libraries in that folder and compile wine against the because ubuntu fails to do something about that links which prevents wine from compiling on the 64bit kubuntu12:52
DarkSmokefor some reason Ubuntu 64 bit doesn't make .so links for the 32 bit libraries12:52
DarkSmokenway , later, peace12:52
ilyaDarkSmoke: great!12:53
snikkerhow can i set iso-8859 charset in dolphin, konqueror (used as file manager)?12:54
enzo_I just finished the upgrade to my desktop. For some reason, GRUB was not updated to show 8.10. It has 8.04, but not 8.10. Any way to remedy this?13:06
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ilyaenzo_: i have some interest, what the size of upgrade?13:07
Roeyhi, I'm trying to get sound working here.  As soon as I upgraded to Ibex, it stopped.  I get this:  http://pastebin.com/m6401f287.  What's wrong here?13:07
enzo_ilya: What do you mean?13:08
ilyaenzo_: sorry for bad grammar. I ask, how many megabytes i need to download to update?13:09
enzo_Honestly, nobody will know. It all depends on what you have installed. The updater will let you know how much you will need to download. Mine was actually close to 2GB.13:10
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ilyathanks13:12
enzo_How do I change the driver for my nVidia card? It has the following failed message: "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)13:12
david_please chat kubuntu in spanish?13:12
enzo_!es | david_13:12
ubottudavid_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.13:12
david_thakyou13:13
enzo_Not a problem, david_13:13
amews_ajAnywhere I can read about why to upgrade to ibex?13:13
RoeyHey all, for some reason I'm not getting sound with 'aplay':  http://pastebin.com/m6cb219d1.  I think that KDE is grabbing the sound context actually.  Could it be?13:14
ilyadavid_: Por qué le desagrada Inglés canal?13:16
jtismeamews_aj, the release notes but offhand i dont know where they are13:18
jtismeamews_aj, also kde4 but it has a few problems at this time13:19
amews_ajjtisme: They don't really say anything about features. It says about installation issues and bugs etc.13:19
amews_ajjtisme: I like kde4, but now I mean in general (ubuntu too )13:19
amews_ajgnome13:19
ilyaubottu: For every language exists special channels, isn't it?13:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:20
jtismeamews_aj, ask about gnome on  #ubuntu13:20
jussi01ubottu: is a bot13:20
ubottuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.13:20
jtisme!es >ilya13:20
ubottuilya, please see my private message13:20
ilyajtisme: what it means?13:21
jtismethere is a spanish channel13:22
jtismethe bot should have told you where it is13:22
jtisme!es>jt6613:22
jtisme!es > jt13:22
jtismepvt msg not working for me13:23
RoeyHello13:23
RoeyHey all, for some reason I'm not getting sound with 'aplay':  http://pastebin.com/m6cb219d1.  I think that KDE is grabbing the sound context actually.  Could it be?13:23
RoeyI can play with 'dragon'13:23
Roeybut not with anything else (mpg123, aplay, amarok1)13:23
MunichMatthi all13:24
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jt66!es > jt6613:24
ubottujt66, please see my private message13:24
MunichMattI try to start java jar-files by simply clicking on them13:24
MunichMattbut when I do, only ark is started13:24
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tikladocan i install stumble upon to konqueror?13:25
MunichMattmy system is: kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu 8.0413:25
jt66ilya  as i understand the bot he said spanish is on #ubuntu-es channel13:25
draikHow do I change the icon to my K Menu?13:25
draikIt's currently 2 left arrows13:25
ilyajt66: yes i understand the same13:25
ilyajt66: but i don't understand? why bot said it to me...13:26
ilyaubottu: you are not bot. you are pretend!13:27
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:27
jt66ilya because you asked a question using the bot's name and asked about language channels at least that is what i saw13:27
digI just google translator & find out.........13:27
jt66good all kinds of answers about channel languages13:28
markus__Hi to everyone :)13:29
ilyamarkus__: Hi13:29
markus__I have a question. How can i configure "K" menu that it appears by clicking on right buttn of a mouse? (KDE 4.1.2)13:31
ilyamarkus__: change mouse settings to left hand :D13:32
markus__funny :)13:32
markus__I tryed it :)13:32
ilyamarkus__: and how?13:32
markus__I've tryed everything. It doesn't work. It was possible in kde 3.5... :(13:33
ilyamarkus__: why do you want to do this?13:34
ruellehow can i configure ip address, gateway... on kubuntu?13:34
MunichMatthow can i start jar-files by clicking on them instead of starting ark (kde 3.5.10)?13:35
ilyaMunichMatt: associate it with your java-interpreter13:35
markus__i used to it :) It was very helpful13:35
totalWhy Dolphin 0.9.2 (Kubuntu 8.04) not create files in Home direcory?13:36
totalHow I can fix it?13:36
MunichMattilya: how exactly can i do it?13:36
ilyamarkus__: What do you thinking about editing sources of kde?13:37
totalРусские здесь есть? )13:37
bazhang!ru | total13:37
ubottutotal: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke13:37
markus__good idea, but i don't have time. It was possible, but now maybe i just can't fiend apropriate menus13:38
ilyaMunichMatt: press "open with" and print "gij -jar"13:39
ilyatotal: нет13:39
ilyaMunichMatt: or something else13:40
draik!medibuntu13:43
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org13:43
vasilisai got a new version of kubuntu and i think my computer's too slow for kde4... any idea how to revert?13:47
vasilisaim having all sorts of glitches.13:47
ilyavasilisa: install kde 3.513:47
vasilisais it in the repos?13:47
jussi01no13:48
vasilisadrat13:48
jussi01!kde313:48
ubottuNo, intrepid does not include KDE 3, only KDE 4. Please continue to use Hardy if KDE 3 is deisred.13:48
draikHow do I use the restricted nVidia driver?13:48
javajeffanyone ejoying kubuntu 8.10?13:50
draikjavajeff: I am. I'm just getting things setup to my liking.13:50
vasilisaits soooo slow on my comp >.<13:50
javajeffthere are a ton of complaints on the web13:50
Roeyhey all, is there a flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound that works with ALSA instead of with OSS?13:50
vasilisaim getting moments of freezeups where i have to wait on processes.13:51
vasilisaand for some reason, code blocks isnt running programs. its compiling them, then immediately returning13:51
* dr_willis waits for a kde4-lite :)13:51
vasilisai have to get in a command line... :/13:51
javajeffdoes anyone know what the desktop widget does?  I closed it, and do not know how to get it back13:52
ilyaanyone have MS Visual Studio for Linux?13:52
dr_willisthat just showed the desktop folder and the icons that used tobe on the desktop13:52
vasilisafor linux?13:52
vasilisai didnt know there was an MS Visual Studio for linux13:52
x-X-xi want to cut out a part of a .avi file what do i use? :P13:52
javajeffdr, so what is the point for it?  Mine was empty so I closed it13:52
dr_willisjavajeff,  thats the whole point of it.. to let you get to your 'desktop' icons/director13:53
vasilisaMS generally doesn't like us :)13:53
berkesin kde3 I had "mac os menu bar" enabled. Result is that after recent up to 8.10 with KDE 4 my menu's are all gone.13:53
berkesworst is, that the option to /disable/ the macmenu bar is also gone.13:53
berkesany hints on what rc-file I need to remove or edit to get the default back?13:53
ilyavasilisa: :)13:54
berkesbtw: this is how it worked in 8.4 and before: http://fosswire.com/2008/03/19/have-a-global-menu-bar-at-the-top-in-kde/13:54
millunhi. i've installed postgis package but i am missing some files i need to insert into the db13:55
Roeyhey all, is there a flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound that works with ALSA instead of with OSS?13:55
Dragnslcrberkes- you can move panels in KDE4 to any edge of the screen you want13:56
draikvasilisa: My laptop is 8 years old with 600MHz processor and 256MB of RAM. I get minor delays with KDE413:56
berkesDragnslcr: problem: this is no longer a panel in kde413:57
DragnslcrCan't help ya there13:57
berkesDragnslcr: or else I misunderstand you.13:57
vasilisadraik: im getting noticable delays13:57
JackWinter_short q.  kubuntu 8.10 has been released right ?  it's only the alternate cd which is still rc ?13:57
ilyadraik: how do you use heavy applications?13:57
javajeffcan someone tell me how to get the desktop widget back?13:57
draikilya: Can you please clarify your inquiry?13:58
Dragnslcrberkes- if you're just looking to move the panel from the bottom of the screen to the top, you can do that with normal KDE4 panels13:58
draikjavajeff: click on the windget at the top right corner, add widget.13:58
Dragnslcrjavajeff- right click the desktop and go to Add Widgets13:58
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berkesDragnslcr: no, that is not what I am looking for. in kde3 you could move your *app menu* to the top. The bar in e.g. konversation, kword etc that says "file" "edit" and so on.13:59
draikjavajeff: That was supposed to be widget, not windget13:59
berkesThey are all gone here, now.13:59
berkesquite annoying, that is.13:59
Dragnslcrberkes- not a clue, sorry14:00
berkesthe funny thing, is that the bar sits at the top, its just invisble. [alt][f] and so open the menus'14:00
scribbleswhat does it mean by Meta+Ctrl+S14:00
DragnslcrPersonally, I hate having the menu bar at the top of the screen instead of with the window, but that's just my opinion14:00
Dragnslcrscribbles- the meta key is either Alt or the Windows key. I can never remember which14:01
berkesDragnslcr: on a dual-headed system, it is really nice to have one place whre your menu-bar lives. MacOs has it, and it works rather well.14:01
berkeswhat .rc file under .kde handles the overall desktop behaviour?14:02
LongbowSirQuestion...I downloaded kvirc and it installed ...I think but I can't find it wnywhere14:02
dr_willisi always have my apps fullscreend.. so they are always at the top anyway14:02
berkesLongbowSir: try 'sudo dpkg -L kvirc' it will list all the files that the package kvirc contains14:03
JackWinter_short q.  kubuntu 8.10 has been released right ?14:03
berkesdr_willis: thats the thing, I never work fullscreene. My desktop is waaay too large for that :)14:04
JackWinter_no longer beta or rc ?14:04
berkesbut right now I don't really care where the bar is, as long as it is available :)14:04
JontheEchidnaJackWinter_: yes, it has been released14:04
javajeffwhy doesnt 8.10 come with a newer version of Openoffice.org?14:05
berkesjavajeff: OO was released too late14:06
draikSo many things in 8.10 that I like. The main one being that I can use Firefox again.14:07
draikNo offense to Opera, but it never did it for me14:07
javajeffFirefox should be the default browser.  There is no reason to segment the market14:07
DragnslcrSince apparently my Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo won't work in 8.10, anyone have any suggestions for replacements?14:09
DragnslcrLogitech MX3200 looks good (I have an MX5000 now), but there seem to be a lot of messages on the forums about problems with them14:09
berkesdraik: and konq really seems to have improved again.... :)14:09
draikberkes: Yes, I agree. Too bad it isn't default and I have to get rid of dolphin.14:09
draikIs there a way to change the File Manager option to Konqueror instead of Dolphin from the K Menu?14:10
draikThat's another thing. The new K Menu is great. A bit more organized for me14:10
DragnslcrYou mean the new Windows-style monstrosity?14:11
berkesdraik: not default??14:11
berkesafaiks konq is the default webbrwoser in kubuntu.14:11
DragnslcrIt is, but not the default file manager14:12
DragnslcrI like Dolphin better anyway14:12
berkessure, I don know. I loooove dolphin.14:12
Leanderhello14:12
dr_willisI hate doplhin.14:12
dr_willis:)14:12
Leanderdoes anyone have problems to connect a cellphone on usb cable with kubuntu 8.10?14:13
draikberkes: Not the default web or file browser14:13
berkesdraik: ah, weird. here is is. maybe legacy.14:15
Leanderwhen i plug my sony ericsson, it doesn't appear in the list of devices of lsusb :/14:15
draikHow do I get the media buttons to work? Previous track, next track, play/pause and stop do not work.14:15
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javajeffdoes anyone know how to move a panel (8.10) from top to bottom?14:22
LongbowSirK14:29
enzo_!nvidia14:31
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:31
ubuntu-drongood afternoon14:33
enzo_Is there a way to make the computer not use the nVidia driver that it cannot use?14:35
ubuntu-dronWhe Openoffice.org is launched, the panel begins to flkicker, so does the whole desktop. Any workaround for this?14:35
snikkerhi, i've updatd to 8.10 and now i can read the name of files that contain iso8859-15 chars, can you help me please?14:35
snikker*i can't read14:35
burn_how to set up new drivers, there is no driver menager or somenthing in kde settings, using kubuntu 8.10 and kde 4.114:36
victim[v]ubuntu-dron: are you using an Nvidia card? See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15701714:36
nyczwhen i try to use /dev/dsp it gives me a resource busy-error, though if i check with fuser it seems no processes has /dev/dsp open... why is that?14:37
victim[v]ubuntu-dron: The work around is to remove the Nvidia proprietary driver14:38
victim[v]burn_: see the first reply reply here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098672.0 it may help you14:39
javajeffwhat is plasma dashboard?14:39
K_DallasHi guys! Q: Running 8.10 in Toshiba Satellite A200, it used to have 8.04.1 running flawlessly. Now with this fresh install along my old XP, I have come to big trouble: From time to time, the caps lock key starts blinking (is it kernel panic?) and nothing works but a physical reboot. Could it be due to overheating (I coulpdnt get lm-server to show me anything but the underneat gets pretty hot). Thanks for any help14:39
enzo_Error: Cannot start kmserver. Would this stop me from being able to get into my desktop?14:40
victim[v]burn_: there is a Hardware Drivers in K / Application / System14:40
rehmanhi14:41
burn_victim[v] yup, and i clicked activate and instaled ati catalist drivers and ati radeon drivers but not working, no opengl supprod and 3D, ond kubutnu 8.04 worked fin14:41
rehmanany one kan help me upgrading RH9 kernel.14:41
snikkerno one?14:43
* Mekzholan has switched to 8.10 - which looks mostly great (although the uprgade itself was very painfull)14:45
victim[v]burn_: the only ATI I have used is an 9550 on Gutsy, the drivers install fine with Envy. Is there an ati-config utility? maybe running it with "kdesu ati-config"14:45
enzo_victim[v]: I was following the suggested procedure for installing the nVidia driver, but I have this error when choosing the driver:  "Error: EnvyNG has detected that the headers for your kernel are missing and cannot be installed"14:46
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MekzholanWhen I change the active screen, the windows are black and are getting filled. This looks really bad - is there a way to avoid this behaviour?14:46
victim[v]enzo_: that sounds painful ;)14:47
enzo_victim[v]: What headers need to be installed?14:47
victim[v]enzo_: idk14:47
enzo_victim[v]: Is there a way to find out?14:47
MekzholanAnd sometimes a new window startes with garbage content and then switches to white to get faded in with the real content (esp. the K_menu)14:47
Mekzholanis there a way around that as well?14:48
victim[v]enzo_: find out what kernel you have and then look in Adept for headers with the same number14:48
* Mekzholan is using an ATI card with the "ati" driver, if that matters...14:48
enzo_victim[v]: I don't have a GUI. I'm stuck with CLI for now.14:48
victim[v]enzo_: you could do some 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-headers' magic, but I don't know14:49
snikker* snikker is using an nVidia card with the "nvidia" driver, if that matters...14:49
burn_victim[v] i downloaded drivers form ati website, but there is no suppeort for 8.10 interpid ibex, should i w8t some time and download new ones?14:50
javajeffI lost my virtual desktop manager on the panel.  Does anyone know the widget name?14:50
victim[v]enzo_: uname -r tells you your kernel14:50
enzo_victim[v]: 2.6.24-21-generic14:50
burn_2.6.27-7 generic :D14:51
enzo_I take it that it wasn't updated14:51
victim[v]enzo_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.24-21  might work??14:51
victim[v]enzo_: even better   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`14:52
enzo_victim[v]: It has no install candidate14:52
enzo_That doesn't work. Oddly enough, it doesn't sync with that. It wants to find the package   linux-headers-'uname -r'14:53
vasilisaanyone know why my keyboard shortcuts dont do anything in kde4?14:53
nyczmy sound isn't working at all in my kubuntu 8.10... i've tried a lot of things but no luck so far... any ideas?14:53
L337stemahi all14:54
burn_nycz alsaconfig in konsole?14:54
enzo_How do I update the installed kernel?14:54
nyczburn_: yup, everything is at maximum14:55
victim[v]enzo_: you've reached the limit of my knowledge, sorry.14:56
enzo_victim[v]: Ok. Thanks for the help.14:56
enzo_It just seems that I have the kernel installed, but it is not being used.14:56
javajeffI lost the switch desktop tool.  how do I get it back?14:57
nyczthe sound worked yesterday for me, but after a reboot this morning, it's all quiet :/14:57
vasilisaanyone know why my resolution keeps changing back every time i restart Xserver?14:57
enzo_victim[v]: I just did "sudo startx" and I am now into my GUI. Would you know how to do it from here?14:57
victim[v]burn_: I read somewhere that the current ATI drivers are currently not supported in 8.10, ATI will be releasing an updated version soon.14:58
victim[v]enzo_: look in Adept for the headers with a similar number to your kernel14:58
burn_thnx victim[v] for help14:59
condonhow do I figure out my password for su?14:59
javajeff How do I get the switch desktop tool back?14:59
vasilisacondon: ....14:59
burn_condon pasword for su od sudo or gksu is the root password15:00
burn_and u typed in when u install kubunto or ubuntu15:00
condon...then how do I figure out the root password.15:00
condonThat''s not working15:00
condonjust says su: Authentication failure15:00
javajeffread about sudo...it will explain everything15:00
burn_are u using the right password?15:01
condonbash: cd: plasma-weatherforecast-0.2: Permission denied15:01
condonI'm getting this message each time I try to get to a directory I just created15:01
BentJAfter upgrading to Kubuntu (intrepid) my firefox freeze when running a page with java-applets - I have tried to create a new user - but the problem persist... Anyone else who have that problem-or know how to fix it?15:01
condonsudo cd plasma..... doesn't work15:01
burn_hmmm15:02
condononly password I utilize on this box15:02
Dragnslcrburn_- you don't use the root password for sudo, you use the user's password15:03
condonlast time I ran ubuntu and ran into this problem someone gave me some script that set the root password...but I can't find the disk I had all my notes from that distro burned on15:03
Dragnslcrcondon- who owns the directory you're trying to get to?15:03
condonI've got one user on the system - I'm in home/user now, untared into the plasma-weatherforecast-0.2 (had to sudo tar... to get it to work)15:05
DragnslcrIf you used sudo to untar the file, the directory is probably owned by root15:06
Dragnslcrls -al will tell you for sure15:07
waylandbill_Hello. I have a cpio file that I want to unpack but the contents have absolute paths from / and I don't want to overwrite my system files. Can cpio be told to extract somewhere besides the absolute paths?15:07
jonathan__hello!15:07
jonathan__I've a question!15:07
jonathan__i installed the fglrx driver via the restricted drivers manager.15:07
jonathan__so i'M using compiz with aiglx15:07
jonathan__now i want to try glx instead of aiglx.15:08
jonathan__how can i change that?15:08
torphi all15:08
condonDragnslcr...if it's owned by root...how do I get into the file if I can't find my root password?15:09
enzo_I am not seeing the linux-headers for my kernel15:09
enzo_2.6.24-21-generic15:09
Dragnslcrcondon- by using sudo15:09
Dragnslcrcondon- you can use sudo chown to make your normal user the owner15:10
condonso "sudo chown plasma-weatherforecast-0.2"?15:12
condonis that the proper syntax?15:12
enzo_condon: sudo chown (username) (filename)15:13
DragnslcrProbably need to use chown -R to change all the files in the directory as well15:14
enzo_How do I make my desktop use the latest kernel? They are installed, but not being used.15:16
dustrialenzo_:  i guess this is job of your bootmanager (grub?)15:20
enzo_dustrial: I tried reinstalling GRUB. It didn't make a difference15:20
dustrialm well you can set the kernel option yourself?15:21
dustrialpress "e" in grub to edit lines15:21
magarellisalve, come si visualizzano le periferiche esterne (usb) in kubuntu intrepid?15:21
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dustrialyou change 'root' to the correct part of the hardisc (partition) with TAB you have complition to search for stuff15:22
dustrialsame should then work with kernel option15:22
torp74list -min 25 sex15:23
enzo_dustrial: Let me reboot now and see what happens15:25
ilya!пизда15:29
javierHola a todos15:30
javierm recibis bien?15:30
kopertonhola15:30
zelda_Hi, the livecd on startx doesn't work, any here hade the same problem?15:30
koperton!english15:30
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat15:30
pietje_phuckzelda_: it works for me, but I get a blank/black screen for a second every few seconds15:31
zelda_pink and blacks rows :)15:32
zelda_perhaps because the composite by default on15:36
enzo_How do I use Vesa drivers instead of nVidia for the time being.15:36
proteusguyI've got my 8.10 CDROM. How do I use it to upgrade my existing 8.05 install? Doesn't seem to offer than option when I boot from it.15:37
pietje_phuckzelda_: I am downloading ubuntu now, see if it is just kubuntu15:38
pietje_phuckproteusguy: There is a howto on the website15:38
JontheEchidnaproteusguy: do you have the alternate cd?15:38
mrunagidoes upgrading automatically install kde 4?15:39
proteusguyNo I have a CD burned from the main Kubuntu iso.15:39
trappistdoes anybody have kontact working with imap in intrepid?  I can read but not write, and it worked in gutsy and hardy.15:39
JontheEchidnaproteusguy: you can only do a cd upgrade from the alternate cd15:39
Tm_Tmrunagi: to Ibex? yes15:39
Tm_Ttrappist: all works here, but I don't use packaged version15:40
trappistTm_T: that's interesting information.  I was just considering rebuilding some packages without the patches, and see what happens15:40
proteusguyoh well - might as well upgrade over the internet then... main cd should definitely come with an upgrade option... alas.15:41
Tm_Ttrappist: well I'm developer with svn trunk...15:41
trappistTm_T: I wonder if you could help me debug this, then15:41
zelda_mm1, I have restart X server on livecd now work15:41
trappistI'm pretty clumsy with gdb15:41
Tm_Ttrappist: prolly not15:41
trappisthaven't gotten anything out of it15:41
trappiststrace too15:41
trappistnothing interesting in the (verbose) ldap logs15:42
trappistTm_T: you're running kde's svn trunk, or kubuntu's?15:42
mrunagiomg this is annoying..........'error committing changes possibly there was a problem downloading packages or committing changes would break packages' what does that mean??15:42
Tm_Ttrappist: there's only one svn trunk, kde15:43
trappistgotcha15:43
hazzytrappist: Kontact works for me now...just started15:44
mrunagiany ideas?15:44
trappisthazzy: wth, out of nowhere?15:44
hazzyYes15:44
trappistTm_T: can you confirm that this should not segfault?  kioslave /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ldap.so ldap /tmp/1 /tmp/215:45
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trappisthazzy: did you, like, reboot or anything?15:45
Tm_Ttrappist: no idea, I don't use ldap15:45
hazzyI did reboot, but that's all15:45
trappistTm_T: thought that was what I asked at the beginning... guess I'll quit buggin ya15:45
trappisthazzy: well ima try that then15:45
trappistit'll make my day if it starts working15:45
hazzyOk15:46
* trappist &15:46
mrunagianyone have trouble installing ibex with a committ error?15:46
Tm_Ttrappist: imap != ldap15:46
thethirdmooseHow do I upgrade my KDE in intrepid to KDE4? kded --version gives 3.5.1015:46
akashI am having problem with Qt in Kubuntu 7.1015:47
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akashPLease help15:47
victim[v]thethirdmoose: how did you install 8.10?15:48
akashI am getting foll error :configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found.15:49
mrunagi" there was an error committing changes possibly there was a problem downloading or committing would break packages" when upgrading?15:49
KorlisHello all.15:50
enzo_Why is it that I can't do "startx" but sudo can?15:51
enzo_If I do it, it doesn't load the GUI15:51
enzo_When I do it with sudo, it goes right on through15:51
Tm_Tenzo_: prolly because you have used sudo once15:51
akashShall anyone tries to help me  :'(15:52
Korlisor the xserver needs root privileges15:52
Tm_T!patience | akash15:52
ubottu akash: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:52
Korliswhat do you need help with akash15:52
Tm_TKorlis: not that simple15:52
enzo_Tm_T: What do you mean by "have used sudo once"?15:55
Tm_Tenzo_: IF you run graphical applications with sudo, you have a chance that you end up having broken rights in your files -> might have issues with graphical stuff15:56
enzo_Tm_T: But this has been since the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.1015:56
Tm_Thmmm15:56
Tm_Tenzo_: then try with new user, totally new one15:57
Tm_Tenzo_: also check all error messages15:57
enzo_Tm_T: There aren't any error messages. I get to a CLI (CTRL+ALT+F1) and I "startx" as my regular user. It gets up to the 3 of 5 loading icons. I went back to the CLI, and it holds on the loading of xorg.conf. No errors, just says that it's going by defaults.15:59
TychoHi. Does anyone know where multimedia key events (volume keys etc) are defined? My keys work, but some of them aren't doing what they should be doing16:00
Tm_Tenzo_: see session errors too16:01
enzo_Tm_T: AFAIK, there aren't any sessions since I am not in a session. How do I check?16:02
condonwhere do I go to disable nautilus painting the desktop?16:03
Tm_Tenzo_: ~/.xsession-errors ?16:03
hamiii_Just upgraded to 8.10. get dependency problem "atd, action start failed." So I tried /etc/init.d/atd start. Acts like it works but "atd status" says not running. Looking at /var/log/syslog I see permission denied for /var/spol/cron/atjobs which is usr bin group bin. Suggestions?16:03
beta-guyhow do I change the time on Ubuntu?16:03
hazzyUbuntu, or Kubuntu?16:05
beta-guyKubuntu16:05
OxDeadC0de1Both16:05
hazzyGo to terminal type "systemsettings"16:06
hazzyAnd go to the bottom where is says "Date & Time"16:06
draikTm_T: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66295/16:07
Tm_Tdraik: for me? oo how sweet16:07
beta-guyhazzy: thanks I'm trying to learn Linux as well as I know Windows :)16:07
Korlisok, i got a question, I already use KDE4.1.2 on Hardy Heron, is there any reason for me to upgrade to Intrepid Ibex?16:07
draikTm_T: :)16:08
Tm_Tdraik: yup, permission issue16:08
hazzybeta-guy: No problem, I'm still trying to learn Linux as well16:08
OxDeadC0de1Korlis: Yes, II just rules? :P16:08
draikTm_T: How can I fix this?16:08
beta-guyKorlis: yes newer bigger better kernel!16:08
Tm_T!sudo | draik16:08
ubottudraik: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)16:08
Tm_Thmm16:08
KorlisWhat kernel version does ibex use?16:08
OxDeadC0de1how can I set the default digital clock plasmoid in II to regular time instead of international/military time?16:09
beta-guy2.6.27-7-generic16:09
OxDeadC0de12.6.27-7 atm16:09
Korlisis it stable?16:09
Tm_Tdraik: sudo chown draik:draik -R /home/draik/.kde*16:09
OxDeadC0de1yea16:09
OxDeadC0de1 09:10:12 up 2 days,  5:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.90, 0.70, 0.4816:10
Korliswill upgrading automatically replace my amarok? I hate amarok for kde416:10
Tm_TKorlis: no, Intrepid uses "old" Amarok IIRC16:10
Korlisthanks16:11
draikI'm using Amarok on KDE4 and I like it :)16:11
OxDeadC0de1don't know, probably, but I hate amarok all together.. I still use rhythmbox because it has way better ssh support16:11
OxDeadC0de1even though rhythmbox has that 100% cpu on pause bug16:11
draikTm_T: Thanks. I will reboot now and hope it all works out.16:11
beta-guy09:10:43 up 1 day, 21:31,  1 user,  load average: 2.14, 2.55, 2.7416:11
Korliswell, i normally use mpd16:11
Korlisbut when i want a quick tune amarok is just easier to use16:11
OxDeadC0de1the easiest really is the hover your mouse over icon that gnome has :P, but eh, this ain't gnome16:12
ardchoilleKorlis: you'll probably see more changes by 9.04 as more apps get ported to kde416:12
Korlismy main thing with amarok for kde4 was it wouldn't play my cd's16:12
OxDeadC0de1i was hardcore gnome until intrepid ibex, before that kde was just crap in my personal opinion (obviously since I'm saying it), but now I won't switch back to gnome16:12
Korlisi love kde4 as a DE16:13
beta-guywhen 9.04 gets released how do I upgrade? can I just run Adept?16:13
OxDeadC0de1dunno, I've been upgrading from 7.04 via update-manager -d16:13
hazzysudo apt-get upgrade, I think16:13
beta-guyok16:13
beta-guyit'll be easier than downloading a new ISO and installing that way :p16:14
KorlisI'm going to upgrade right now then16:14
OxDeadC0de1but even tho I'm already running II I ordered the 8.10 kubuntu cd ;)16:14
OxDeadC0de1<3 kubuntu16:14
Tm_TOxDeadC0de1: II ?16:14
enzo_Tm_T: cross your fingers...16:14
OxDeadC0de1intrepid ibex16:14
Tm_Tenzo_: I wont16:14
KorlisI think im gonna order a free cd just to give to friends16:14
Tm_TOxDeadC0de1: bah, how obscure16:15
beta-guyI <3 II16:15
OxDeadC0de1tm_t eh :P,I'm an obscure guy?16:15
Korlisi'll be back when it restarts me16:15
OxDeadC0de1good luck korlis16:15
enzo_Tm_T: You cursed it. :(16:16
OxDeadC0de1doh!16:16
Korlisty ox16:16
Tm_Tenzo_: yes I did (;)16:16
Korlisits only on step 2 right now though16:16
OxDeadC0de1so, does anyone here use splashy instead of usplash in 8.10?16:16
Korlisi downloaded splashy but i didnt like it16:17
OxDeadC0de1I love the fingerprint theme16:17
OxDeadC0de1only problem is after upgrading to 8.10 the progress bar stopped moving :/16:17
Korlistelling me it's gonna take about an hour to get all the new packages16:17
luiteI installed intrepid a few days ago, but now I cannot login anymore. after the kdm login, the loading window pops up, but after a while the screen starts blinking, and the desktop never really loads16:17
luitewhat should I do?16:17
OxDeadC0de1luite: I'd go into a console after kdm starts, (control alt f1), log in16:18
OxDeadC0de1them rename or delete my old .kde folders16:18
hazzyYea16:18
hazzyI was about to suggest that16:18
luiteOxDeadC0de1: I already did that, and started an ssh connection to my irc ;)16:18
luiteok, will try that16:18
enzo_I think I will just "sudo chmod -777" my entire system. That should stop the issue.16:18
Korlislol16:18
hazzyNo16:19
hazzyDon't16:19
beta-guyI just found out what usplash is... why does it exist? I remember playing with the older distros and thinking the text on bootup was cool16:19
rienhi everyone, i've got a problem with kubuntu 8.10 and dvb-t16:19
hazzychmod 777 is insecure16:19
beta-guyusplash/splashy are just trying to turn Linux into Windows16:19
OxDeadC0de1beta-guy apparently splasy can give you cool bootup pictures and display the text at the same time16:19
Korlislike on knoppix16:20
OxDeadC0de1kind of like the old bootsplash image of just the penguin at the top16:20
rienim trying to use my pinnacle dvb-t stick solo with kubuntu, but it doesnt work - can anyone help me?16:20
beta-guyOxDeadX0de1: cool16:20
hazzyrien: Do you get any errors? What are they? What happens otherwise?16:20
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hamiii_Just upgraded to 8.10. get dependency problem "atd, action start failed." So I tried /etc/init.d/atd start. Acts like it works but "atd status" says not running. Looking at /var/log/syslog I see permission denied for /var/spol/cron/atjobs which is usr bin group bin. Suggestions?16:20
Tm_Taxel_foley: are we rooted now?16:20
denis_Bonjour !16:21
axel_foley:-D16:21
axel_foleyvirualbox16:21
rienwell i installed the drivers according to the guide at http://quarkmitsauce.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/pinnacle-pctv-dvb-t-stick-72e-with-ubuntu-710/16:21
rienand the stick seems to be recognised alright, but no mediaplayer works with it16:21
denis_hi !16:21
rienall the programs say they cant find the hardware16:22
denis_somebody could help me please ?16:22
brewmasterhey all, let's say i have two folders, 'a' and 'b', and i want all files in those folders to show up in folder 'c'--is there a way to do this?16:22
OxDeadC0de1rien look at dmesg and /var/log/syslog see if there's anything about it there16:22
OxDeadC0de1denis_ don't ask to ask, just ask16:22
denis_okay16:22
trappisthazzy: reboot didn't help here :/16:22
rienalright, hold on16:22
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OxDeadC0de1brewmaster: lots of ln -s ?16:22
hazzytrappist: Ah, this is interesting16:22
trappistin fact, rebooting *sucked* - my panel settings are lost16:23
denis_I don't know how to install my second HDD, and i'm a newbie with kubuntu, somebody can telle me how could I install it ?16:23
brewmasterOxDeadC0de1: nod, there's no way to sort of 'merge' two folders without manually entering symbolic links?16:23
OxDeadC0de1denis_ plug it in, partition it, format the partition, set it up in /fstab to mount it to wherever16:23
Guest19464ciao16:24
trappisthazzy: I'd find it more interesting if it worked :)16:24
denis_I don't want to format it, there is already files on it16:24
OxDeadC0de1brewmaster: you can probably make a bash script to do ls folder then create a symbolic link on every item ls returns16:24
denis_from windows16:24
denis_it is NTSF16:24
OxDeadC0de1denis_ oh then .. sudo apt-get ntfs-config ; ntfs-config16:24
draikTm_T: It didn't work. Would you like me to send you the latest ~/.xsession-error ?16:24
denis_I'm gonna try this16:25
OxDeadC0de1denis_ that will set it up to automount them to wherever you specify on system boot16:25
brewmasterOxDeadC0de1: ah yes, shell scripting to the rescue16:25
denis_error message : /bin/sh: ntfs-config: not found16:25
OxDeadC0de1denis: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config sorry I always forget the "install" part16:26
Korliswoo, just ordered a kubuntu II cd16:26
OxDeadC0de1Korlis: Yay!16:26
rien-ne-va-plusOxDeadC0de1: alright seems like a mess in the syslog16:26
Tm_Tdraik: sorry I don't have time to help you more, I wish a good luck with it though16:26
draikTm_T: Ok. Thanks.16:26
Korlisthe rate taht the upgrade is downloading it might get here before it's done16:27
denis_I think it is working16:27
hazzytrappist: I've since started using Thunderbird for all this, so, I'm not sure what it could have been16:27
OxDeadC0de1rien: the kernel api could have changed since 7.10, you may want to check google on the issue :/16:27
trappistwhen I start up, I have to manually start knetworkmanager, then manually turn on my wireless connection to connect to the tubes.  how can I make this automatic in intrepid?  in the old days I'd put the device and my wepkey in /etc/network/interfaces - should I do that again?16:27
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trappisthazzy: is thunderbird what was giving you trouble before?16:27
rien-ne-va-plusOxDeadC0de1: ok thanks16:28
hazzytrappist: No, I had just tested Kontact for you16:28
denis_Is it a long process ?16:28
trappisthazzy: can you describe exactly what happened?  I'm still not 100% sure we had the same problem16:28
Korlisim using kernel 2.6.2416:28
OxDeadC0de1denis_ is what a long process?16:29
denis_this process : sudo apt-get install ntfs-config16:29
draikIs there a way to change the apps within the Favorites of the K Menu?16:29
luiteOxDeadC0de1: okee, I can login now again, but lost all my settings of course. is the new kde known to be buggy, or are there some settings I shouldn't touch because of these problems?16:29
KorlisHuzzah! My time remaining is under an hour now.16:29
KorlisWhat do you mean draik16:29
OxDeadC0de1luite: I have no real stability issues with it and I tweak everything in my setup ^^16:30
Korlisyou can change wahts in there, but you can't change the order theyre in16:30
hazzyI had tried to send a message on Kontact, but as it was sending it shot me an error saying something about my network not being configured16:30
OxDeadC0de1draik right click on an app you want to add to favorites, click add to favorites16:30
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trappisthazzy: oh that's not at all what I'm experiencing - I'm trying to save contacts to my ldap server16:30
kevin_hello all, is it   possible to run kde 3.5.10 while using Intrepid,, I just upgraded and seem have lost kde 3.5.x16:30
draikKorlis: Right now, I have Konqueror for web browser; Dolphin for file manager, etc. I want to use Firefox and Konqueror, respectively.16:30
slow-motionhi16:30
hazzytrappist: Ohhh, sorry :\16:31
trappisthahaha16:31
KorlisYou mean bookmarks?16:31
OxDeadC0de1draik or if you want to remove one, right click and click "remove from favorites", so remove konqueror and add firefox, etc16:31
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Korlisoh wait, i understand16:31
draikOk16:31
Korlishe wants to set up firefox as default web browser and konq as default file browser16:31
luiteOxDeadC0de1: ah ok, I never had such problems with kde 3. guess I was just unlucky.16:31
draikKorlis: Right16:32
ardchoillebrewmaster: you can have two links to folder c .. you can't have folder c link to two places16:32
trappisthazzy: but I thought of something to try next - this is a "clean install", but I kept my home dir from a gutsy install, so I'm gonna try with a new user with no settings, and see if maybe something in my ~/.kde is causing problems16:32
OxDeadC0de1luite: I never used kde until intrepid ibex.. well, not never, but I prefered gnome until kde416:32
denis_Ox, I did the two commands you showed to me16:32
hazzytrappist: Yea, go for it16:33
denis_but the second one show an error16:33
Korlisif you right click on what you want to open you can select open with, then check the thing that says remember my settings for this whatever16:33
luiteOxDeadC0de1: ah. the gnome desktop always looked a bit more 'polished'16:33
denis_** (ntfs-config:6169): WARNING **: Erreur : Ce programme nécessite d'être exécuté en tant que root.16:33
Korlisi can check to see the exact wording if you want16:33
luitebut I used kde anyway16:33
OxDeadC0de1denis_ sudo ntfs-config16:33
draikdenis_: sudo your command16:33
draikHow do I get my regular user to login? It keeps hanging when it comes to loading the video driver.16:34
Korlisok draik, you right lick  select open with - other then check the box that says remember application s association for this type of file16:34
rien-ne-va-plusOxDeadC0de1: hm i cant seem to find any news on that topic16:35
OxDeadC0de1luite it wasn't about the polishedness of the desktop for me, it just seemed kde was extremely bloated compared to gnome in the past, and I always had little problems with it16:35
draikKorlis: Huh? How does that fix the login?16:35
Korlisthat doesnt16:35
Korlistahts to make default apps16:35
brewmasterardchoille: that's sucks... what I'm trying to do is have /partitionA/videos /partitionB/videos both show up in mythtv under 'videos'16:35
Korlisdidnt see your login issue16:35
Korliswhoa, my remaining time shot up to 2 hours16:36
OxDeadC0de1rien I don't know, sorry :/, try making a bug report on the website for whatever company or hacker that makes the driver you're trying to use16:36
dr_willisbrewmaster,  i just made links from /videos/part1 --> /media/partitiona/videos16:36
dr_willisbrewmaster,  i had mythtv playing videos from severl hard drives.. and even nfs and samba shares that way16:36
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denis_it doesn't work. i tried sudo apt-get install ntfs-config then sudo apt-get install ntfs-config Do I forgot something ?16:38
OxDeadC0dedenis_ you only need to install it once, then run it, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config ; sudo ntfs-config ..16:38
brewmasterdr_willis: so you had to have separate folders showing up in mythtv for each partition?16:38
dr_willismythtv had 2 or 3 different ways to show the  videos listings.. I think i had sub folders correct..16:39
denis_should I have to reboot now ?16:39
dr_willisVideos/Drive1  and Videos/Drive2 and so forth..16:39
OxDeadC0dedenis_ maybe not, check /media and see if it made the folders and mounted it already16:39
dr_willisI do belive you had to tell MythTV to rescan or do somthing for it to see the videos.. or set up a setting whre it showed all files.16:40
dr_willisIve not used MythTV in ages16:40
OxDeadC0deeverybody: My hangover is gone! Time to party without any more tequila! sorry about off-topic16:40
denis_Yeah !16:40
denis_It's okay16:40
denis_Thank you16:40
denis_realy16:40
ardchoillebrewmaster: you can link both folder a and folder b to folder c but don't you need to tell mythtv to rescan after linking?16:40
denis_really*16:40
denis_have a great day ;)16:41
OxDeadC0dedenis_ yw glad I could help16:41
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kevin_  does any one  know  how to install kde 3.5.10 on intrepid?16:42
dr_willisNot doable at this time.. from what i hear.. no repos have it.. no ppa's repos either16:43
dr_willisYou could always get the source I guess... *(ick!)*16:43
kevin_thanks16:44
DarthfrogSounds like a sizable # of folks don't like KDE 4.1.216:44
Tm_TDarthfrog: I like 4.216:44
OxDeadC0deI love 4.1.2, 4.2 can only be better16:44
DarthfrogSo do I.16:44
hazzyEh, I can't see why...4.1.2 isn't bad at all16:45
ardchoillekevin_: If you have already installed Intrepid, there's always the option of using another window manager like fluxbox or enlightenment16:45
dustrialenzo_:  there?16:45
DarthfrogI'm not enchanted with the fuxored printing system in Kubuntu Intrepid but KDE itself is great.16:45
dr_willisI like jwm+rox-filer :)16:45
Tm_TDarthfrog: it works here16:45
kevin_I probably will like 4.2, I am just used to 3.516:45
ardchoillekevin_: same here and I will wait and see how 9.04 turns out16:46
grizzancs4.1.2 is terrible slow at me, even with hw accel on + direct rendering, so im trying gnome now :)16:46
Darthfrogkevin_: One of the best things I read about KDE 4: KDE is no longer playing catchup on the desktop, theyre now innovating.16:46
DarthfrogI can hardly wait to see where the devs take KDE 4. :-)16:46
dr_willisuseing 'applets/desklets/widgets' for everything is innovation ? :) But theres a lot of innovation a normal user dosent see ....16:48
OxDeadC0degrizzancs: it's fast for me on my dual core comp with it running at 800mhz + nvidia geforce 6150 go16:48
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maxbaldwinAm I the only one who hasn't changed their desktop? Because I like the one KDE4 comes with...16:48
trappisthazzy: when I set it up as a fresh user, it works :)16:49
hazzytrappist: Glad to hear it!16:49
trappistI hate to do it, but I think ima wipe out my ~/.kde16:49
OxDeadC0demaxbaldwin you should at least try the lancelot kde menu instead of the regular one16:49
maxbaldwinOxDeadC0de: Screenshot?16:50
OxDeadC0dewhat's the hotkey to take screenshots again? ^^16:50
grizzancsOxDeadC0de: if i turn out "desktop effects" (so probably compiz, or what it is on kde4) , it's a lot faster (1.6ghz dualcore 2 gb ram notebook), but gnome is perfectly smooth with 3d effects on on 1gb notebook, single core, and both have ati mobility radeon 128mb videocard16:50
grizzancsstrange :)16:50
dustrialwell i had crashes with KDE4 so i use kde3 here16:50
kevin_It is really slick looking, and I love the graphics, but at the moment I can't find anything16:50
OxDeadC0deI run compiz grizzancs :/16:50
MunichMatthello all. I have a problem with apt-get. I tried to install mozpluger and kvpnc. They also install menu and m4. But since then i keep getting problems reported by apt-get, that there were errors in processing the installation. see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66310/16:51
maxbaldwinOxDeadC0de: I dunno... I like the regular the best.16:52
ardchoilleI like tastymenu16:53
maxbaldwinKDE4 > wmii > * > Gnome16:53
maxbaldwinThat's the order, there.16:53
dustrialright, but gnome is more appealing for beginners, ...16:53
OxDeadC0dethere's your problem grizzancs, ati radeons suck?16:54
nadleyhi everybody16:54
Kovert? does katapult work with 8.10?16:55
ardchoille!info katapult16:55
ubottuPackage katapult does not exist in intrepid16:55
ardchoilleKovert: I guess not16:55
dr_willisaparently not. :)16:55
Kovertthank you again dr_willis16:56
grizzancsOxDeadC0de: well, they ddid excellent work on windows 3d games, i don't think they are not capable of handling some 2d windows ;)16:56
OxDeadC0degrizzancs: I meant in their linux support but yeah :P16:56
grizzancsmaybe, but ubuntu with gnome is fast on this one, havent tried kubuntu only on the other one16:57
dustrialOxDeadC0de:  reading Nvidea forums, i woundered if things changed and ATI is now friendlier ...16:58
OxDeadC0dedustial: After my experience with the ati radeon mobility 200m, I never wanted ati again16:59
* Kovert running ati16:59
dr_willisMy laptop has a x200m.. its actually working decently well under 8.1016:59
dr_willisFor all the little power it has. :)16:59
dr_willisit does the job for the kids.16:59
dustrialyes had simular problems 9700 mobility (r400) and was upset too... but now its AMD and nvidea doesn't do anything, while ati started to develeop better soupport16:59
OxDeadC0demaybe it got way better but I had it when it was new and frankly.. it sucked them until my laptop died.. got nvidia after so I dunno how much better it got ^^17:00
dr_willisi used a ati 9700 for ages.. :)17:00
nadleyThere is french user of Kubuntu here ?17:00
ardchoille!fr17:01
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr17:01
dustrialyeah i killed my laptop with 9700 two days ago17:01
OxDeadC0dedoesn't it just suck when a laptop dies? I cried last time it happened.. literally... :/17:01
dustrial5 yrs of fine power, and at least 9700 worked after years of configuring17:01
dr_willisI got an old laptop thats glued together to a bord. :)17:01
grizzancshehe17:02
ardchoilledr_willis: haha17:02
* Kovert is thinking x200s?17:02
dustrialwell 5 yrs is a good age, he had some good days in some wine-games =)17:02
ajuntahi all! tell me please is it real to use knetworkmanaget to connect to m$ vpn?17:02
dr_willisSome of the laptops in this house have month+uptimes fronm the wife and her cardgames on them17:03
OxDeadC0deanyone using my python cpu frequency scaler on kubuntu 8.10? ^^ (in get hot new stuff), just asking because I17:03
OxDeadC0deoops, I'm going to rewrite it in js here in a bit for better compat..17:03
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hamiii_After upgrading to 8.10 I get the error Setting up at (3.1.10.1ubuntu3) ... * Starting deferred execution scheduler atdinvoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "start" failed.17:06
hamiii_When I remove at and reinstall  I get the same error17:08
wathekhello all17:08
OxDeadC0dehamiii_: see if a bug report already exists if not submit one17:08
wigrenHi all. I'm trying out Kubuntu for the first time. With Ubuntu I use envy to install the nvidia drivers. I can't seem to finy envy with Adept. Is there a special tool for KDE?17:09
wathekany one can help me to get libxerces-c.so.27 ?17:09
hamiii_Can someone tell me the permission and owners of /var/spool/cron/atjobs17:10
Korliswigren, it should automatically alert you if you need a proprietary driver17:10
OxDeadC0dehamiii_: ls -lh /target17:11
romunovhey, my kubuntu installation has blown itself to about 14 gigs... any ideas on where to start cleaning?17:11
hamiii_I know how, I want to know what someones are that system is working.17:11
OxDeadC0deromunov try the disk usage analyzer? it's in gnome I know..17:11
enzo_wigren: envy is envyng17:12
OxDeadC0dedrwxrwx--T 2 daemon daemon17:12
hazzyromunov: sudo apt-get autoclean17:12
hamiii_Interesting mine are set to bin17:12
OxDeadC0dedrwxrwx--T 2 daemon daemon  4.0K 2007-10-15 17:27 atjobs -- even17:12
romunovi tried autoclean, but it freed only 100 megs17:13
romunovalso autoremove17:13
wigrenKorlis: When I use the Hardware Drivers utility it was basicly just unresponsive. So far I reinstalled ubuntu because somebody needed to use it. I'm on the Kubuntu live CD now. The Hardware Drivers seems to work when I'm on the live cd, but not when I'ts installed. I could reinstall it and see what happens, unless you have a suggestion?17:13
KorlisI would say that if the drivers work on the live cd it should work when you install it17:14
wigrenKorlis: I'll try it again. Thanks.17:14
draikKorlis: No, that didn't work17:16
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hamiii_thanks OxDeadC0de. That did it. Somehow the permessions got changed in the upgrade. I changed them and all works fine.17:18
Kovertromunov: get rid of old kernels17:18
Guest62554hello17:19
hamiii_While I'm here, I'm using konversation right now and if I click a link quanta pops up rather than konqueror. Anyone know where the setting is to put think right?17:19
Philip5hi guys.... i'm missing the system network configuration module in the system settings in kubuntu 8.10... anyone know if it's missing or just I who have missed som package to install?17:20
hamiii_s/think/things17:20
OxDeadC0dehamiii_: glad to be of service17:21
Philip5system network configuration comes with other dists with kde 4.x17:21
OxDeadC0dehamiii_ no idea on that one, still havn't figured out completely how to set the default browser etc in kde, but perhaps konversation has it's own setting on which browser to use ?17:22
t848945Hello all17:22
ardchoillehamiii_: it's in file associations, particularly the .html file extension, but I don't know where that is in kde417:22
romunovKovert: got any reading material on how i do that? how do i check if the old kernels are indeed causing this bubble?17:22
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ardchoillehamiii_: perhaps open konqueror, go to Settings > Configure Extensions17:23
r0y4lIs there no way to resize the height of a kde4 panel? :(17:23
hamiii_I tried the konqueror and konqueror is listed first for html17:23
OxDeadC0dehamiii_ can try k menu/system settings/advanced and click through everything and look around?17:24
JontheEchidnar0y4l: click the plasma icon at the right of the panel, drag the top of the bar that appears like a window17:24
JontheEchidnathere will be a more obvious button to drag in KDE 4.217:24
ardchoillehamiii_: in konversation, go to Settings > Configure, then to Behavior > General and set the web browser?17:24
t848945.17:24
OxDeadC0dei use pidgin and firefox comes up on link clicks ^^17:25
r0y4lJontheEchidna: AHH17:25
r0y4lJontheEchidna: THANSK17:25
r0y4ls/THANSK/THANKS17:25
r0y4l:)17:25
JontheEchidna:)17:25
t848945.17:25
romunovmonths ago I installed Enemy territory and would like now to purge it. unfortunately i can't just "apt-get remove et" :/ how do i do it?17:25
OxDeadC0deanyone know if kubuntu will be upgraded to 4.2 once it's released in jan or whenever it comes out?17:26
ardchoilleOxDeadC0de: I would think that 9.04 would be upgraded upon release17:27
OxDeadC0deon 8.10 even17:27
hamiii_ardchoille Thanks. It would of bit me. I'd looked right past it 100 times at least.17:27
ardchoille8.10 won't be17:27
ardchoillehamiii_: so did I :)17:27
OxDeadC0deso 8.10 will always have 4.1.2? ok then.. no problem for me I always dist upgrade anyway, but I want kde 4.2 as soon as it comes out17:28
ardchoilleOxDeadC0de: yeah, once it is released the *buntu's usually only get bug fixes and security updates17:28
JontheEchidnaIf you have "recommended updates" enabled you should get 4.1.3 in a few days ;)17:33
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: then that will be the first time I've ever seen something as complicated as a full DE upgraded to the next version17:34
JontheEchidna4.1.3 is a bugfix update17:34
romunovi'll need some help uninstalling enemy territory from my kubuntu.. anyone?17:34
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: Ah, ok17:34
thethirdmoose_How do I get OSS support for phonon?17:35
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: In that case, I may try Intrepid again on my test box :)17:35
ardchoilleYou never know, we may see Kubuntu 8.10.117:36
Ubuntu-Newbie-ExHello all - question, I've been trying for two days trying to get Sun Java 6 working with Firefox.. with no luck. I try to apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, but I get the message 'Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package'17:37
Ubuntu-Newbie-ExAny thoughts?17:37
ardchoille!java17:37
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grizzancs:))17:39
psycohey guys, I got 8.10 now, but my internet wont work anymore17:39
psycoAnd I cant find where to configure the internet options now17:39
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romunovwhat would happen if i deleted a directory (say "glest") under /etc/games/?17:42
zamaraxhello, I followed the steps here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-41-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html and now I can't seem to remove kde, nothing happens when I try an aptitude remove (package name) and it also completely messed up my gnome in that it's now using the kubuntu wireless manager amongst lots of other things, any ideas of how to reverse that install?17:42
OxDeadC0deyou would no longer be able to play glest but it wouldn't be uninstalled properly17:42
ardchoilleromunov: how did you install it?17:42
romunovi downloaded a file from a webpage17:43
romunovand dpkg, if i recall correctly17:43
ardchoilledpkg has an uninstall feature17:43
OxDeadC0detry dpkg -r .eb17:43
OxDeadC0de:s/.eb/.deb17:43
romunovOxDeadC0de: from /glest/ directory?17:43
ardchoilleromunov: from anywhere17:43
OxDeadC0deon the glest debian file17:44
OxDeadC0deor anywhere I guess17:44
romunovhum, i don't have the deb file anymore17:44
gigatropolisI had tthe same problem as psyco. is it normal for no internet connection when starting kubuntu 8.1017:44
ardchoilleromunov: doesn't matter, but you do need the filename17:44
romunovhum, i see that the /games/ directory has no subdirectories, only files... :/17:44
ardchoilleromunov: you also should be able to: apt-get remove glest17:45
romunovwee, glest is removing17:45
romunovnow for the ET17:45
ardchoillewhoever wrote APT was a genius17:47
OxDeadC0deapt freakin rules17:47
hazzyYes...I spent some time on Mandriva...couldn't use urpmi17:48
trappistI thought urpmi was pretty ok - even has some advantages over apt, but I prefer apt17:49
maxbaldwinrpm is better than apt17:49
trappistone thing I lost when I wiped out my ~/.kde is when I close kontact, it's *closed*, as in nothing in the taskbar for kmail, akregator etc.  how can I make it minimize to the system tray like it did before?17:50
trappistmaxbaldwin: right.17:50
trappistrpm doesn't even compete with apt, it competes with dpkg.17:50
maxbaldwinlol, I dunno what I'm talking about.17:51
trappistI know17:51
* maxbaldwin kicks maxbaldwin.17:51
trappist:)17:51
luitehmm, the problem is back :( I was messing with window managers (trying to use emerald), and had to kill xorg. and now I can't login again :(17:51
maxbaldwin:|17:51
OxDeadC0deluite lame, i use emerald all the time17:52
rien-ne-va-plushi everyone, i still have problems with dvb-t under kubuntu 8.10 -  my usb stick is in "warm state" but i cannot use it with any software i tried, i always get "no hardware recognized" - can anyone help?17:52
ardchoilletrappist: you need to go through the apps in kontact and set the tray icon for use again17:52
luiteOxDeadC0de: it's the first time I try to use it. should I be able to start it using # emerald --replace, from a terminal, when kde+kwin is running?17:53
OxDeadC0deluite I always launch it from the fusion-icon17:53
teddiebaerHi@all17:53
psycoIn kubuntu 8.10 where do I fix internet settings?17:54
luiteOxDeadC0de: ok, I'll try that17:54
trappistardchoille: found it, thanks :)17:54
ardchoilletrappist: iirc, kontact is just a shell for things like kmail, akregator, etc17:54
ardchoilleyw17:54
psycoKnetworkmanager wont connect for some reason, it stays "disconnected"17:54
eeanmanyone know of a 'kdict' replacement for intrepid?17:54
eeanma dict client of some sort17:54
trappistardchoille: yeah that appears to be the case17:54
hazzypsyco: Go to terminal and type "systemsettings", and click "Network Settings"17:55
luiteOxDeadC0de: hm, that doesn't seem to work either, my window decorations have gone again17:56
OxDeadC0deluite: did you already select a theme to use via emerald settings manager?17:56
luiteOxDeadC0de: yes, I installed some theme I downloaded from the kde-look website17:59
luitebut I'll try another one17:59
AizawaWhen installing k/ubuntu, if you pick the paritioning option that automatically fills out your hard disk, does it do that with your swap too?18:00
OxDeadC0deluite try: sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes - then launch the emerald manager from fusion-icon, select a theme, then turn on emerald18:00
jussi01Aizawa: it does everything you need for basic install, so yes.18:01
luiteOxDeadC0de: I tried to install emerald-themes, but the package is not available18:01
OxDeadC0deluite it could be in multiverse or another repo, try enabling them all (except source)18:02
AizawaHm. Okay.18:02
pulaskiHello, I've been trying to set up NFS on my client/server setup using hardy 8.04 server and hardy 8.04 desktop.  The output of my rpcinfo -p call lacks the rquota daemon on both machines.  I've  installed nfs-kernel-server on the and server and nfs-common on both the server and the client.  When trying to mount a share on the client it returns 'mount.nfs: internal error'.  /var/log/syslog shows:'rpcbind: server 192.168.0.3 not18:02
pulaskiresponding, timed out" which I think I read somewhere is a rquota related error message.  Can anyone suggest what's going on here.18:02
russlarhey all. I'm trying to delete a konsole profile, but the delete button doesn't seem to work. is there a config file I can edit to manually remove a profile?18:02
OxDeadC0dek menu/system/software sources18:02
dissociativewhere are the Kubuntu 8.10 i386 DesktopCD system requirements?18:03
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trappisthow do I configure printing in kde4?18:03
draikI cannot log into my regular account. I can login with "sudo startx", but not with my regular user. There is no error message, but 2 people have confirmed a possible permission issue.18:04
draikHas anyone else had this issue?18:04
russlar@draik: only time I've seen that is when I try to change my login screen18:04
russlarit throws a18:04
alesanhey, do you know where (a forum or similar) I can express my total regret I upgraded to 8.10 and the lousy KDE4?18:04
russlar"cannot open file" error18:04
alesanthis upgrade has been the worst thing EVER since I bought a computer18:05
OxDeadC0dewhat's wrong with kde4?18:05
jussi01alesan: you can come and gripe in #kubuntu-offtopic18:05
jussi01:)18:05
dissociativehes not ready18:05
alesanOxDeadC0de: the list would be too long to type here, that is why I am looking for a forum18:05
alesan~dict gripe18:05
dissociativegtk2 looking is so annoying18:06
luiteOxDeadC0de: multiverse is already enabled. I think the package is not available anymore for the newer versions, I cannot find it on pacakges.ubuntu.com either18:06
luiteOxDeadC0de: but I got it working now with another theme from the beryl site, using fusion-icon. thanks for the help :)18:06
OxDeadC0dehow can I find out what repository a specific package is on?18:08
condoncan anyone tell me where to get the snow plugin (running kubuntu 8.10 w/ kde 4.1)18:08
trappistOxDeadC0de: apt-cache show18:08
condongot compiz stright from adept18:08
draikrusslar: It's not even like that. I don't get an error message.18:09
russlarit's installed by default for me, running kwin18:09
OxDeadC0detrappist: it doesn't show what repo it's on in that :/18:09
trappistOxDeadC0de: oh sorry, apt-cache policy18:09
jussi01OxDeadC0de: what package?18:10
russlar@draik: belgium. it just drops you to terminal session?18:10
OxDeadC0deemerald-themes, apt-cache show shows me where emerald came from though18:10
draikrusslar: Yes.18:10
jussi01!info emerald-themes18:10
ubottuPackage emerald-themes does not exist in intrepid18:10
draikWell, actually, not really. It just sits there.18:10
trappistdraik: I had a similar problem earlier today, and it was a permissions issue.18:10
draikI got to terminal and I can login like my regular user.18:11
OxDeadC0deoh lame, guess I still have it from 8.0418:11
draiktrappist: How did you resolve it?18:11
psycowhat is the command to create "/etc/resolve.conf" ?18:11
goofeyif you agree that one should not have to install gnome to get firefox in kubuntu 8.10, please support bug #292403 in bugs.launchpad.net18:11
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russlarpsyco: sudo touch /etc/resolf.conf18:11
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psycotouch?18:11
trappistdraik: well in my case it was safe to totally wipe out the home dir, but you might try chowning yours, like sudo chown -R [yourself] /home/[you]18:11
elvirahol18:12
OxDeadC0detouch creates a blank empty file with the given filename18:12
elvirahol18:12
elvirahola18:12
draiktrappist: I did that.18:12
trappistpsyco: it's resolv.conf, and yes if you touch it it'll create an empty file if it's not already there18:12
psycolol18:12
peguehi, is there a debians sid equivalent in ubuntu?18:12
trappistdraik: then it's probably not a permissions problem18:12
russlardraik: if possible, look ofer the X11 logs18:12
draikrusslar: Where are the logs?18:13
goofeypegue: ubuntu doesn't have "stable" and "unstable" like debian18:13
OxDeadC0de-/var/log/xorg.log18:13
pegueso, is there something newer than version 8.10?18:13
Aizawanope18:13
russlarpegue: no18:13
OxDeadC0de8.10 came out 2 days ago18:13
goofeypegue: nope, that's the latest and greatest18:14
pegueI know, but i wonder if there was a testing branch, with the lastest versions18:14
elvirahi18:14
condonanyone know what gitweb is?18:14
elvirahola18:14
goofeypegue: there will be a 9.04 alpha (very broken) in a month or so (?)18:15
russlarpegue: look around for 9.04 dev18:15
draikWhat am I looking for in the log of Xorg.0.log?18:15
boubbink18:15
pegueok, thanks18:15
OxDeadC0dedraik: any line that says (EE) at the start18:15
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russlardraik: anything that looks like ERROR18:16
OxDeadC0dedraik or (WW)18:16
OxDeadC0de(EE) = error, (WW) = warning18:16
pegueas I did download 8.1 beta, i thought it would be now something equivalent18:16
draikThanks. Let me check18:16
JackWinteris this the right channel for discussing kubuntu 8.10 now ?18:16
peguesorry for my english :P18:16
russlarpegue: not for another couple months18:16
psycowhere do I change network settings in Kubuntu 8.10 ?18:16
OxDeadC0dejackwinter right here?18:16
russlarJWL yes. here18:16
pegueok, i see how it works18:16
draikI only have 2 WW...18:17
draik(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.18:17
russlarpsyco: what do you want to do?18:17
draik(WW) "dri2" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere.18:17
JackWintero, installed it on my laptop.  every couple of seconds there is a "jiggling" of my screen.  looks like it's trying to open a window and then closing it immidiately ?  any idea what it might be, i have no idea since it goes to fast....18:18
psycorusslar: well, I just got 8.10, and now, I have a "static IP" I cant configure kubuntu to connect to it18:18
russlarpsyco: heheeh... that;s a bug18:18
russlaryou have to configure it manyally from command line18:19
alesanhey which window manager can I switch to that looked like KDE2 or 3?18:19
alesanwith a basic task bar, a clock, and a quick launch app tray?18:19
russlarthe syntax is this: sudo ifconfig <interface name> <ipaddress> netmask <netmask>18:19
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favropsyco: you can edit the file /etc/network/interfaces manually to get a static ip working18:20
psycorusslar: ok ill try that18:20
russlarpsyco: after that, do this: sudo route add default gw <ip of gateway>18:20
psycorusslar: what is my "interface name" ?18:21
russlarwhatever interface you want to configure18:21
psycooh rightt18:21
russlardo ifconfig -a18:21
russlarand pick one18:21
EruaranI have updated to Kubuntu 8.1018:21
EruaranApart from minor glitches, its looking fairly good.18:22
OxDeadC0deglad to hear that Eruaran18:22
EruaranSeems to be working with my nvidia graphics nicely18:23
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russlarsweet! a guy who's not hating on KDE4!!!18:23
draikWould either of those 2 warnings be the cause?18:24
Eruaranits rather nice18:24
psycoarrgh, still not working18:24
russlarI don;t think so, draik18:24
HHornblower87hello, all. I have a quick question for you. I upgraded to 8.10 two days ago, and overall it's been great. The only thing that doesn't want to work is the hibernate/suspend functions.18:24
HHornblower87it's the same for every power manager I use.18:24
roby70ciao18:25
russlardraik: the first one just means that you won't be able to display russian text18:25
HHornblower87so i'm assuming it's a problem with the back-end, or the kernel, or somesuch.18:25
russlarhornblow: or your hardware18:25
HHornblower87I've been trying to google around for it, but the results are very slim.18:25
draikrusslar: Well, that's not an issue. I can't read it even if I saw it.18:25
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HHornblower87russlar: well, it worked fine in 8.04.18:25
HHornblower87russlar: so I'm kinda doubtful of that.18:25
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russlarsomehting tells me maxbaldwin is an asshole18:26
draikWhere else should I look for the cause of my X server issue?18:26
russlardriak: what video hardware are you using?18:26
OxDeadC0dedraik can you login with other users?18:26
OxDeadC0denot just root?18:26
draikrusslar: the restricted driver for nVidia18:27
draikOxDeadC0de: I only have one user18:27
draikI will create another.18:27
russlarhmmmm....... did you recently update the kernel?18:27
maxbaldwinGah.18:27
draikrusslar: Yes18:27
draikrusslar: Manually, too.18:27
russlarah-haha!18:27
JackWinterrusslar: i think kde 4.1 looks awesome...  still didn't use it, but looks get A+18:27
russlaryou need to reinstall the nvidia driver18:27
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OxDeadC0derusslar he shouldn't.. they have a new program that compiles and installs the nvidia driver every time the kernel changes now18:28
OxDeadC0derusslar: automatically18:28
draikrusslar: How so?18:28
russlardraik: never mind18:28
draikOk18:28
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draikBe right back...18:29
JackWinterenvyng and dkms works real nice...18:29
goofeyif you agree that one should not have to install gnome to get firefox in kubuntu 8.10, please support bug #292403 in bugs.launchpad.net18:32
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russlargoofey: ?????18:33
psycois there a way to not use knetworkmanager and set stuff up manually, not matter what I do knetowrkmanager will not "connect" eth0 stays disconnected18:33
goofeyrusslar: an install of firefox using adept on a clean install of kubuntu 8.10 requires a *ton* of gnome files - this is wrong18:33
webashow to unzip.. http://pastie.org/305935 i get error18:33
russlarwhen you're manually configuring from ifconfig, ignore knetworkmanager18:33
psycorusslar: argh, so I'm screwed....18:34
goofeyrusslar: firefox, while a gtk app, is not a gnome app18:34
russlargoofey: well, firefox for linux was written using gtk for a frontend18:34
goofeyrusslar: and the dev's are trying to close the bug18:34
russlaryou'lll need gtk to run it18:34
Aizawafirefox on linux is sooo damn slow, for me at least18:34
goofeyrusslar: gtk yes, gnome, no18:34
russlardidn't ask me for gnome stuff....18:34
goofeyrusslar: on a clean install of kubuntu 8.10?18:35
draikNo, alternative user did not work18:35
russlaryes18:35
OxDeadC0dedraik but root does?18:35
goofeyrusslar: well, if you don't mind, take a look at the bug and le tme know if I'm wrong18:35
goofeyer, let me18:35
goofeyrusslar: I would love to be wrong about this18:35
russlardid you install ubufox, or firefox-ubuntu?18:35
draikOxDeadC0de: Yes. "sudo startx" brings me into the GUI18:36
psycowhy does the damn system settings change each update18:36
HHornblower87anybody have a thought about suspend/hibernate not working on my 8.10 install?18:36
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psycoits the surce of problems from all my updates18:36
goofeyrusslar: 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu218:36
OxDeadC0dedraik sorry about all the questions, but, if you log into the new user from a console and run startx, what output do you get?18:37
goofeyrusslar: Firefox Web Browser 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu218:38
draikSame as my initial regular user. No error messages. It freezes up on the part where it says that it will be loading the config from the xorg.conf file.18:38
draikI don't mind the questions. It helps you help me resolve this issue.18:38
espereguis lancelot included it kubuntu?18:38
jussi01yes18:39
OxDeadC0dedraik chec that there are read permissions on /etc/X11/xorg.conf (with ls -lh)18:39
jussi01!info plasmoid-lancelot | esperegu18:39
ubottuesperegu: plasmoid-lancelot (source: plasmoid-lancelot): An alternative launcher menu plasmoid for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3~svn860641-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 536 kB, installed size 1508 kB18:39
esperegujussi01: how can I enable/use it?18:39
jussi01esperegu: install that package, then add it like any other wplasmoid18:39
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draikOxDeadC0de: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.1K 2008-11-02 10:34 xorg.conf18:39
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babeckI have upgraded to Intrepid, but now I cant use the single quote mark.  Instead I have to press it twice, and it becomes an accent mark for the next character.  tried doing a dpkg-reconfigure, but that does not seem to work.  anyone know of a way to fix the problem.18:40
esperegujussi01: cool. thx18:40
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OxDeadC0dedraik yet another test: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup1 , and try startx with a user again18:40
OxDeadC0deyou can always move it back18:40
bozzahi18:40
psycozomg, wtf, bqq18:40
psycoit works randomly18:41
psycow/e as long as it works,18:41
draikOxDeadC0de: Right. Anything else before I leave to try it?18:41
psycoprobably tahanks to you russlar,18:41
russlarpsyco: the static ip works?18:41
psycoccheers eveyone18:41
OxDeadC0dedraik y ou shouldn't have to leave to try it ;)18:41
psycoyeah :D18:41
psycobye18:41
russlarcheers18:41
OxDeadC0dedraik hit control+alt+f2 to switch to another terminal18:41
draikOxDeadC0de: Haha. I forget about the others18:41
draikJust a sec18:41
esperegujussi01: hmm. installation gives a lot of lines like: Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'18:42
bozzawhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu18:42
OxDeadC0deubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde18:42
jussi01esperegu: how did you install it?18:42
bozzaoh ok18:43
bozzais kde better ?18:43
OxDeadC0deit's personal preference usually18:43
jussi01!best18:43
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:43
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goofeyrusslar: what was the package you installed?18:44
bozzaok18:44
draikOxDeadC0de: xauth: error in locking authority file: /home/draik/.Xauthority18:44
russlarfirefox-3.018:44
russlarin adept18:44
draikOxDeadC0de: Says it 4 times in a row18:44
goofeyrusslar: then you must have a bunch of gnome files installed or you know a trick that I don't18:44
russlaror I just don't care18:44
goofeyrusslar: fair enough18:45
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OxDeadC0dedraik try renaming ~/.Xauthority18:45
jonathan__is it correct that my xorg has a permanent cpu usage of over 10%??18:45
bozzaok ill ask my question again in more detail: when i change volume or when i press mute the sound doesnt change , either in MASTER or using my laptop keys .. but when i change the sound in HEADPHONES , the sound changes . how can i get rid of that problem18:46
draikFatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.18:46
bukharinHello! just upgraded to intredid, and everything went fine :)18:46
bukharinexcept for one little thingy :(18:46
draikDone.18:46
draikLet me try again.18:46
bukharinbozza: you mean with the laptop hardware buttons?18:47
bozzai have a problem in Ubuntu .. can i get support here . the ubuntu channel is quite busy18:47
bozzayea18:47
bukharinwell: anyone knows why firefox refuses to use qt themes?18:47
bozzaor the buttons in MASTER18:47
ardchoillebozza: not really, the #ubuntu channel is where you need to be18:47
bozzaoh . but does KDE use Volume Control alsa mixer ?18:48
russlarbuk: firefox was written in gtk18:48
bukharinbozza: looks like you need the correct packages t handle your buttons... it depend on the make of your laptop18:48
draikOxDeadC0de: Ok, so no error message about the fatal server error.18:48
draikOxDeadC0de: Reboot and try to login?18:48
bukharinruslar: yweah, i know. but inn hardy, gtk-qt-engines worked peachy, and now it just looks as straight out of winows 3.118:48
bozzano even if i change volume in volume control under master .. it doesnt do anything18:48
russlarerm.....18:48
OxDeadC0dedraik: give it a try :), hopefully it will work now18:48
draikOk18:48
bozzabut when i change the volume for "Headphones" it works18:49
bukharinbozza: you mean in the kmixer app?18:49
bozzahmm . i use ubuntu . and for me its called Volume Control18:49
bukharinbozza: oh, sorry.18:49
bukharinbozza: well it looks to me like you got the channels in your sound card mixed up. its fairly common.18:50
bozzaohh ,, i didnt realize there was such a big difference between ubuntu and kubuntu18:50
bukharinbozza: unfortunately, conf and fix depende higly on your particular sound setup.18:50
bozzabukharin: oh how can i change it18:50
bozzaany ideas ?18:51
bukharinbozza: i wouldn't know. that ALSA config, and its fairly "low-level". in my case, for example, i got some mixup on the channels, or the names passed to ALSA don't mean much, but i just stopped trying to fix it, and changed my wiring18:51
bozzayour wiring ? but its a laptop ?18:51
esperegujussi01: just using apt-get install18:51
bukharinbozza: no, its desktop. that's why i wouldnt know how to fix it in yor case18:52
esperegujussi01: you know how I can change order of the items in a panel?18:52
bozzaoh ok18:52
jussi01esperegu: ok. did it appear in your add widgets window?18:52
bukharinbozza: your best bet wuld be to look for documentation on your laptop mdel for ubuntu18:52
bozzathanks anyway18:52
bozzaok thats a good idea18:52
jussi01esperegu: right click on the panel -> panel settings -> drag and drop :)18:53
bukharinbozza: if you are lucky, (ot have a dell) that kind of things is thoroughly dpcumented, but since it depends on the hardware layout of your card, theres not much that can be done from the OS side (ie, (k)ubuntu)18:53
bukharinbozza: good luck. you'll need it :)18:53
esperegujussi01: yeah I was able to add it. trying to order stuff now18:53
esperegujussi01: drag and drop... NIZ!18:54
enzo_OxDeadC0de: This time, there are errors when trying to login with my username rather than root18:54
bukharinwell.. back to my main concern: any one has any idea why firefox suddenly stopped working with gtk-qt-engine?18:54
enzo_OxDeadC0de: EE Unable to locate/open config file18:54
bukharinit worked in hardy with kde 4.1.2, and it stoped working after dist-upgrade18:54
enzo_OxDeadC0de: EE open /dev/fb0: No such file or direcotry18:54
jussi01esperegu: one little trick, you can change lancelots icon by right clicking on the launcher, then lancelot settings :)18:54
enzo_OxDeadC0de: EE Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)18:55
fale__is there an irc client completle written in qt4?18:56
esperegujussi01: oeps... Fatal Error Occured... plasma crashed =)18:56
DarkSmokefale__: wait for the next version of kvirc18:56
enzo_OxDeadC0de: What am I missing?18:57
fale__DarkSmoke: atm no irc client is written in qt4/kde4?18:57
JontheEchidnafale__: quassel18:58
fale__thx JontheEchidna18:58
OxDeadC0deenzo_ sorry was afkish back tho, move your xorg.conf back ^^18:59
nRxanyone who know if there is a real-time backup tool?19:01
maxbaldwinKeep can backup a directory at regular intervals19:02
maxbaldwinnRx19:02
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Fionasgh19:03
nRxmaxbaldwin: but it should be updated after (example: editing a file)19:03
nRxupdated=backuped19:03
bukharinanyone knows why gtk-qt-engine doesn't work in firefox?19:03
bukharinafter dist-upgrade?19:03
maxbaldwinIf you set it to be backed up every day or something, it wouldn't matter.19:04
maxbaldwineven after you edited it19:04
ardchoillebukharin: Do you have these packages installed?  gtk2-engines-qtpixmap gtk-engines-qtpixmap gtk2-engines-qtcurve19:05
nRxmaxbaldwin: thanks but this isn a real-time backup tool ... keep only back up at a special time or every day or ... but not after knowing that there is a difference between folder A and folder B so that it has to backup.19:06
bukharinardchoille: don't know, let em check. maybe dist-upgrade removed them19:06
maxbaldwinnRx: Ah, someone else can probably help then. I'm not sure of a program that does that. (I don't use backup programs)19:07
ardchoillebukharin: well, you had to manually install them to begin with19:07
bukharinyes, i had forgotten that i neede extra packages, and thought that dist-upgrade would just keep them. i just installed, let me see if ff works now19:08
psycohey im back XD,19:08
bukharinnope, still looks horrible19:08
ardchoillebukharin: ok, did you set the gtk stuff up in systemsettings ?19:08
psycoanyone had the problem in adept where the search list flashes and then nothing shows up?19:08
bukharinardchoille: ywah, i told it to use my kde theme19:09
JontheEchidnatry installing libbonobo219:09
ardchoillebukharin: try chaning it to the qt option and back and then restart ff19:10
bukharinardchoille: jsut did that. didn't work :(19:10
ardchoille:(19:11
ardchoillebukharin: ok, open ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde in a text editor and take a look19:12
bukharinardchoille: i tried with wvery option, qt4, qtcurve, raleigh, use my kde theme. firefox looks exactly the same with each. terrible, that is :) but the tab bar now looks good...19:12
ardchoillebukharin: I can post mine if you want19:12
bukharinok, give me a sec19:12
bukharinNO such file or directory19:13
bukharinardchoille: there gtkrc-2.0-kde19:13
ardchoillebukharin: that file was created for me by the systemsettings19:14
bukharinyeah, it was under a diff name. there it is19:14
bukharingtkrc-2.0-kde19:14
ardchoilledoes it have your qt stuff in it?19:14
ardchoillebukharin: actually that's the same filename19:15
bukharinyeah, my bed, sorry.19:15
bukharini have three files: gtk-2.0-kde, gtk-2.0-kde419:15
bukharingtk-qt-engine_rc19:15
sbatteyhttp://annma.blogspot.com/2008/11/khangman-kde-4-broken-in-intrepid.html <--this is a little ridiculous don't you think?19:16
ardchoilleok, check to see if the *kde4 file has your qt stuff in it19:16
ardchoillesbattey: do you know who annma is?19:16
sbatteyardchoille: I do.19:17
sbatteyardchoille: I'm not saying her blog is ridiculous, I'm saying the fact that it is broken is.19:17
KiZTiaNhello19:17
bukharinit says:19:18
ardchoillesbattey: ah, yeah19:18
bukharingtk-theme-name="Qt4"19:18
bukharingtk-font-name="DejaVu Sans 9"19:18
KiZTiaNi need help with kubuntu 8.10 and radeon 920019:19
bukharinardchoille: thanks a lot for your time, but i have to go now...19:19
ardchoillebukharin: that looks correct, not sure what the problem is19:19
bukharinardchoille: i'll try messing with those, to see if i can fix it19:19
ardchoilleok19:19
bukharinardchoille: thanks. bye!19:19
ardchoilleyw19:19
sbatteyardchoille: People blame kubuntu crashes on KDE, the sad part is, is that this manages to slip through to a release.19:20
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ardchoillesbattey: you know what they say.. to err is human, to really foul things up requires a computer19:21
KDeskwhy when I install mplayer the soud out put is to pulse?19:22
KDeskI dont have pulseaudio installed, so it should be in alsa o xine or phonon19:22
KDeskis that a bug?19:22
ardchoilleKDesk: I thought pulseaudio was the default starting in Hardy19:22
hazzyYea, I think it is19:23
jtechidnaardchoille: not in kubuntu it isn't19:23
KDeskno19:23
KDeskardchoille:  in kubunut not19:23
ardchoillejtechidna: Ah, thanks for that info19:23
hazzyOh, ok19:23
* ardchoille just recently switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu19:23
Tm_Tardchoille: noone believes you, you old KDE user19:23
Tm_T(;)19:23
ardchoillehehe19:24
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fillipfirst time here19:26
filliphi!19:26
ardchoille!hi19:26
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:26
fillip:)19:26
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psycokey, anyone know why adept in 8.10 doesnt show up any searches?19:29
psycothey just flash a list for a sec and then nothing19:30
bastianpsyco: if I disable show upgradable packages it works19:31
psycobastian: ok ill try that19:31
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psycorofl19:31
psyconice19:31
psyco"minor bug" ..... >.>19:32
OculusAquilaepsyco: saw the same bug a minute ago19:32
psycois firefox in the repository?19:33
ardchoille!info firefox19:34
ubottufirefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 124 kB19:34
ardchoillepsyco: yep19:34
psycoso its a bad thing if its not showing up....19:34
OculusAquilaepsyco: seems to work after having clicked on this button one time19:35
psycouuugghh19:36
enzo_OxDeadC0de: I have moved the file back, what should I do?19:36
psycothis is fail.19:36
psycoi want my old adept rwarwar19:38
OculusAquilaeI don't get it reproduced19:39
ardchoilleSomeone needs to make a distro based on Kubuntu but with kde3 and gimp, firefox, synaptic ported to qt19:39
psyco!info synaptic19:40
ubottusynaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.62.1ubuntu10 (intrepid), package size 1268 kB, installed size 5852 kB19:40
psycoi dont know whats wrong :S:S, adept gets a list but its so small19:40
enzo_I'm sure where to look now so that I can resolve my xserver issue.19:41
jmichaelxcould someone possibly tell me how to enable the desktop cube in intrepid? i have been poking around, but nothing i have tried has seemed to work.19:42
enzo_Is anyone here using the nVidia driver from the restricted hardware? I want to know if maybe it's just me having the issue with only root being able to use the GUI as opposed to a regular user, too.19:44
OxDeadC0deenzo: ls -lh /dev/nvidia* do you have read/write permissions for all users?19:46
OxDeadC0deenzo_ /\19:46
jmichaelxman, they sure did a number on adept19:47
psycojmichaelx: yup, its quite the fail19:47
draikOxDeadC0de: Here is what I show...19:47
draikcrw-rw---- 1 root video 195,   0 2008-11-02 10:51 /dev/nvidia019:47
draikcrw-rw---- 1 root video 195, 255 2008-11-02 10:51 /dev/nvidiactl19:47
jmichaelxfail is definitely the word19:48
OxDeadC0deenzo_ try adding yourself to the user group, or do (insecure way) chmod a+rw /dev/nvidia*19:48
OxDeadC0deenzo_ video group I mean sorry19:48
draikI am part of the video group19:48
ardchoilleOxDeadC0de: the device it self shouldn't have read and write perms for all users19:48
draikI will run the command just the same19:48
psycough, im totally haing 8.1019:49
psycohating*19:49
draikpsyco: So angry you can't type?19:49
psycodraik: almost ;)19:49
draikOxDeadC0de: I have run the command you provided.19:50
larsivihai - after going through the motions to actually upgrade all the packages, ibex is mostly working for me - but not Ctrl+F (!) in konqueror19:50
larsivianyone know what to look for?19:50
OxDeadC0dedraik I just had a thought, does sudo modprobe nvidia give any errors?19:50
jmichaelxi am liking 8.10 much more than i thought i would. i was really pissed that i was being forced to abandon kde3 if i wanted intrepid.... but, i must sheepishly admit that it's pretty nice ^.^19:51
mog_hello19:51
draikOxDeadC0de: Nope.19:51
mog_i'm ubuntu , i was here afternoon on the "ubuntu" name19:51
psycojmichaelx: i agree, I totally love the looks, but so far, nothing is working at all19:52
larsivimog_: not very smart to use such a nick :)19:52
jmichaelxmog_: so YOU'RE that 'ubuntu' guy that keeps showing up in here!!19:52
draikmog_: Everyone is ubuntu when they join with the LiveCD or such.19:52
jmichaelxpsyco: what issues are you having?19:52
psycojmichaelx: right now, adept, no list is showing up when I do a search19:52
OxDeadC0dedraik: try startx again as your other regular user (the test one you ade)19:53
psycochange inng the "upgradable filter" sorta fixes this19:53
OxDeadC0dedraik: now that you have added r/w perms to all users for the nvidia devices.. which you *shouldn't* have to do :/19:53
psycoso i can see some, but nto rnearly close enough to the many packages I should see.19:53
psyconot nearly*19:53
Dragonathwhat is the state of the fglrx driver? can it do 3d acceleration reasonably well or not?19:53
mog_ok, i've installed kubuntu 8.10 on my pc 512MB RAM , 30GB HDD and processor AMD Sempron 1.8Ghz19:54
jmichaelxpsyco: i dunno, but the new adept seems worthless to me. i am using either synaptic, or more frequently aptitude from the terminal19:54
psycojmichaelx: good idea19:54
mog_and i find kubuntu more fast than ubuntu with gnome , few strange no?19:54
larsivinot really19:54
draikOxDeadC0de: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keygiving up.19:55
psycois there a way to get adept kde 3 back easily?19:55
psycomeh, nvm19:55
psycoi liked synaptic better19:55
jmichaelxpsyco: i seriously doubt it. just use synaptic19:56
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mog_ok , ah it's JohnFlux2 you give me a link about compiz on VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card19:56
newtonhello19:56
gerihi is there a gui based openvpn cleint tool for kubuntu?19:56
enzo_OxDeadC0de: xinit Resource temporarily unavailable (errno 11): unable to connect to X server19:56
InquisitorDoes anyboby know why Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't support Xen virtualization?19:56
enzo_OxDeadC0de: xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.19:56
newtonon a fresh install, what should i install in kde?19:56
mog_ JohnFlux2 ?19:56
newtonyoutube does not work19:56
RoeyInquisitor:  it has it enabled by default, thereby making nvidia not work19:56
mr_clarkHi guys. Playing with LTSP. Got it working fine with Ubuntu 8.10 but I really want KDE4. Why doesn't the alternate kubuntu disk offer LTSP install?19:56
Roey:P19:57
jmichaelxInquisitor: it doesn't? you may need to use the alternate install CD to select the correct kernel, but i would be fairly sure that xen support is available19:57
OxDeadC0deenzo_ / draik: make sure the .Xauthority file doesn't exist19:57
mog_ JohnFlux2 are you here?19:57
jchonigArgh, going from 7.10 to 8.10, Kwin will not run on my second monitor (not Twinview or Xinerama), any ideas?  X knows it is there, just not Kwin19:57
draikOxDeadC0de: Ok. Let me try again19:58
trappistdoes dolphin not know how to peek into directories to pic an icon based on their contents?19:58
enzo_OxDeadC0de: xinit: Interruped system call (errno 4): unable to connect to X server19:59
enzo_OxDeadC0de: xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.19:59
mrunagianyone know how to fix the 'cannot commit changes' message when upgrading?19:59
Dragnslcrnewton- probably Flash19:59
mog_?19:59
mog_ JohnFlux2 ?19:59
kkerwinHi. Has anyone had any problems with the fglrx driver and Ubuntu 8.10 (kernel 2.6.27)?19:59
OxDeadC0deenzo_ kill all your xorg sessions, remove all .Xauthority files, and try again :/, this is bugging me that it won't work :P20:00
jchonigIs there magic to getting KWin to run on the second screen?20:00
howtoosomebody else has problems with kubuntu 8.10 and alsa sound for 82801I chip?20:00
draikOxDeadC0de: Ok. Just a sec.20:00
psycowhere do I change shortcut keys like "switch to desktop 2"20:01
enzo_OxDeadC0de: Trying it now20:01
mog_ok20:01
mog_infact20:01
enzo_I'm in!20:02
OxDeadC0deyay finally!!!20:02
mrunagilol i dont guess im upgrading20:02
ardchoillepsyco: systemsettings > Computer Administration > Keyboard & Mouse?20:02
vasilisayou guys will love this20:02
enzo_OxDeadC0de: Let me reboot and see what happens20:02
OxDeadC0deenzo) good luck!20:02
vasilisai went "sudo rm *" in my /etc/libs folder20:02
psycoardchoille: I rhink so, good call20:02
mog_i would try to run compiz-fusion with VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card20:03
psycoyup, thanks!20:03
vasilisagreatest epic fail moment of my life20:03
ardchoillevasilisa: /etc/libs ?20:04
jmichaelxvasilisa: i saw a great video on youtube of someone rm -rf-ing their entire filesystem20:04
vasilisaardchoille: no /usr/libs20:04
vasilisaits where all the dynamically linked binary files go20:04
vasilisaso if you erase it... yeah20:04
vasilisaso anyway, thats why i finally upgraded from gutsy to hardy20:05
enzo_jmichaelx: Got a link to that? Was it a spoof or were they being an ass about it?20:05
pulaskiHello, does anyone know how I can obtain the "rquotad" daemon?20:05
mog_nobody?20:05
Dragnslcr!info rquotad20:05
ubottuPackage rquotad does not exist in intrepid20:05
Dragnslcr!info rquota20:05
ubottuPackage rquota does not exist in intrepid20:05
jmichaelxenzo_: i would have to look. no, the person did it on purpose, with 'born to be wild' playing as accompanying music20:06
john-charlesHi all, i've been running kde4.1 under 8.04 for a while, I had also setup pulseaudio as my sound server, configured phonon to use pulse. I had hoped that in 8.10 pulse would be configured by default. I can reconfigure it, but I am wondering if there are any new instructions for doing it?20:06
vasilisahe probably had it backed up and was reinstalling20:06
enzo_jmichaelx: LOL20:06
jmichaelxvasilisa: well, hopefully you were able to save your data, and all is alright now?20:06
newtonhow do i install flash?20:06
Dragnslcr!flash20:07
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash20:07
vasilisajmichaelx: yeah its fine. i just feel dumb20:07
newtonadapt is sooo.... annoying... is there a synaptics for kubuntu?20:07
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john-charlesnewton: flash now has a .deb package on there website, it actually works unlike the flashplayer-nonfree.20:07
enzo_OxDeadC0de: Ok. There there is an issue with my main account.20:07
jmichaelxvasilisa: well, it is often those feel-dumb experiences that teach us the most. i have certainly had my share ^.^20:07
vasilisai was trying to delete some libs so that i could see if my program would compile with said libs as part of the project, instead of the system.20:07
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newtonJohnFlux2: nice20:08
enzo_OxDeadC0de: The main account cannot access X server while the new account can.20:08
newtonok20:08
newtonthks20:08
vasilisajmichaelx: true20:08
psycoardchoille: its not working, I can set the shortcuts but then I press them nothing happens20:08
ardchoille_psyco: :(20:08
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OxDeadC0deenzo_ did you remove the .Xauthority in your main account?20:09
mog_run graphical effect on VIA Unichrome S3G graphique card , nobody know how i do ? please20:09
enzo_Yes20:09
jmichaelxcould someone possibly tell me how to enable the desktop cube in intrepid? i have been poking around, but nothing i have tried has seemed to work.20:09
enzo_OxDeadC0de: Just before I rebooted the computer, I removed it20:09
OxDeadC0deenzo_ then umm, try ls -lha in your main account, see if any files belong to root20:09
billHello all20:09
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hazzyjmichaelx: Did you install fusion-icon?20:10
enzo_OxDeadC0de: ls -lha /home/draik ?20:10
moppedI'm trying to associate .ps files with okular, where can I find 'okular' (in what directory..)20:10
OxDeadC0deenzo_ exactly :)20:10
ardchoilleenzo_: find ~ -user root20:10
jmichaelxfusion-icon? no, i had not heard of it20:10
OxDeadC0deenzo_ ardchoille's way is better ;)20:10
hazzyjmichaelx: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon20:11
jmichaelxhazzy: ty, will do20:11
enzo_OxDeadC0de: Ok, runnning ardchoille's method20:11
psycojmichaelx: its to handle compiz, makes stuff easier to configure20:11
billJust upgraded to 10-8 it does not geet along with my video card.20:11
Tm_Tbill: which is what?20:12
enzo_~/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/Xorg.0.log.desktop20:12
billvoodo 3..20:12
enzo_~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/albumcovers/cache/130@nocover.png20:12
OxDeadC0dedoes xorg create any files in /tmp ?20:12
OxDeadC0de!pastebin | enzo_20:12
ubottuenzo_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:12
psycohow do I change my clokc to 12 hour instead of 24 hour?20:12
enzo_OxDeadC0de: sorry. I can't pastebin from CTRL+ALT+F120:13
billright mouse click on the clock20:13
OxDeadC0deoh yeah :/20:13
Tm_Tenzo_: tty1 you mean20:13
Tm_Tand you can (;)20:13
OxDeadC0deenzo_ we're looking for files in your home folder though, not in subfolders of your home folder :)20:13
enzo_Well, the main thing here is ~/.kde/share/apps/kuser20:13
psycobill: there is no time format setting20:13
enzo_Ok20:14
Tm_Tjust use magical commandline browser like lynx20:14
enzo_No, nothing there.20:14
enzo_Tm_T: I have lynx but don't recall using it in quite some time.20:14
mog_ JohnFlux2 please are you available few minutes ?20:14
billYour right. Sorry..I'm 0 for 3 today.20:15
kkerwinHi. I'm on 8.10 w/ kernel 2.6.27 and I'm trying to setup the fglrx driver. aticonfig segfaults with the following: Nov  2 13:38:37 kerwin kernel: [81872.270803] aticonfig[24966]: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfb12790 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]20:15
OxDeadC0deenzo_ try chown draik:draik /home/draik -R20:15
kkerwin* above is from dmesg/syslog. The segfault is preventing me from configuring X11 to use the fglrx driver, and so I am stuck on VESA at the moment. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!20:15
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enzo_OxDeadC0de: Done. Had to be done with sudo, BTW.20:16
OxDeadC0dedid that help? ^^20:16
enzo_OxDeadC0de: I'll check. Just a moment20:17
OxDeadC0deif not, you can always simply backup your home folder (mv /home/draik /home/draik-backup), erase the draik user, then re-add it20:17
OxDeadC0demake sure you have another admin user before doing that though (or have set a password to the root account so you can log into that)20:17
miguelHola20:17
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jmhi20:18
jmI installed Kubuntu and seems ok20:18
jmhowever, I'm getting a messed up image somethimes20:18
enzo_OxDeadC0de: ummmm....20:19
enzo_OxDeadC0de: WOOHOO! WE GOT IT!20:19
OxDeadC0deenzo_ yay!!!!!!!!20:19
jmlike a flicker...        every 5 or 10 seconds20:19
jmany ideas, guys?20:20
jmichaelxhmm, there are some things that fusion-icon will not allow me to select20:20
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ardchoilleOxDeadC0de: May I pm you?20:20
draikSWEET!20:20
tokahdoes krandr work for anyone20:20
hazzyjmichaelx: Such as?20:20
draikOxDeadC0de: Now, onto more pressing matters.20:20
kkerwintokah: Aye.20:20
OxDeadC0deardchoille if you wish :)20:21
draikOxDeadC0de: Do you.. or do you not... in fact.. know... the word?20:21
jmichaelxhazzy: well, snow, for example20:21
OxDeadC0dedraik: which word? :P20:21
tokahkkerwin, for some reason my does nothing but change the resolution, if i want to change were one monitor is i have to use xrandr in terminal20:21
draikOxDeadC0de: B-b-b--b-b-b-BIRD BIRD BIRD, Bird is the word...20:21
larsivianyone about not working ctrl+f in konqueror?20:21
kkerwintokah: Lo siento, but I'm afraid that I can't help you there ... :-(20:22
hazzyjmichaelx: Ah, interesting...I'll upgrade compiz-fusion and tell you whether I experience the same20:22
kkerwinHi. I'm on 8.10 w/ kernel 2.6.27 and I'm trying to setup the fglrx driver. aticonfig segfaults with the following: Nov  2 13:38:37 kerwin kernel: [81872.270803] aticonfig[24966]: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfb12790 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]20:22
Kubuntu_N00bseems nice, but that flickering is damn annoying20:22
kkerwin* above is from dmesg/syslog. The segfault is preventing me from configuring X11 to use the fglrx driver, and so I am stuck on VESA at the moment. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!20:22
Kubuntu_N00bthis thing is troublesome... any ideas what it is and how to fix it?20:24
mog_can you help me please?20:25
hazzyDon't ask if we can help you, just ask the question20:25
draikWhat is the command to see if I have glx running on this?20:25
jchonigjchonig anyone on zaphoding and 8.10?20:26
jt66!please >mog_20:26
ubottumog_, please see my private message20:26
OxDeadC0dedraik: glxinfo20:26
mog_sorry ok20:26
draikOxDeadC0de: Oh yay! Segfault!20:26
Kubuntu_N00bSo... nobody can help me with that?20:26
rien-ne-va-plushi everyone, ive got a problem with kubuntu - how do i get the files off my mobile phone using bluetooth?20:27
OxDeadC0dedraik crud, yet more problems.. how'd you end up getting all these issues to begin with?20:27
draikI upgraded from 8.04 to 8.1020:27
rien-ne-va-plusand why are the bluetooth tools only accessible via console?20:27
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: Sorry, no ideas20:27
mog_so, i would run compiz-fusion on VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card20:28
Kubuntu_N00bThat's so bad... Kubuntu looks leaps and bounds better than ubuntu20:28
Kubuntu_N00bbut that flickering is going to make me kill someone20:28
OxDeadC0dedraik: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?20:28
draikOxDeadC0de: Sure. Just a nano20:28
OxDeadC0de!pastebin20:28
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:28
mog_ JohnFlux2 are you busy ?20:29
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48239820:29
draikOxDeadC0de: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66409/20:30
howtooanybody know of some good ipod software for linux? preferably QT4 =)20:31
mog_i search a web site link about compiz-fusion with VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card20:31
howtooand, it should be girlfriendly20:31
howtoo=)20:31
coreymon77howtoo: well you can do the most girl friendly thing of all and just run itunes with wine?20:31
Kubuntu_N00bhmm... not exactly my case...20:31
Kubuntu_N00bit's like everything messes up on the Screen, but rearrange on a split second20:32
Kubuntu_N00blike a glitch20:32
coreymon77afaik wine can run itunes20:32
OxDeadC0dedraik: try making it look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66411/ (Without all the modelines in the monitor section, those are there for when I launch fullscreen apps like wine games that have a smaller resolution, so it uses the right refresh rate for my lcd)20:32
coreymon77but theres also amarok and other stuff like that20:32
rienis there any software to use kubuntu with a mobile phone via bluetooth?20:32
ardchoillehowtoo: I was told amarok can handle ipods20:32
OxDeadC0deand remove the pci-id from the device section20:32
coreymon77ardchoille: it can20:32
ardchoilleah, ok20:33
howtoooh, sweet20:33
coreymon77howtoo: what ipod btw20:33
Kubuntu_N00bit's kubuntu related as that doesn't happens with Xubuntu or Ubuntu20:33
Kubuntu_N00bso, there must be something related to KDE20:33
howtoocoreymon77: uh, dunno20:34
OxDeadC0dedraik: I mean the busid, yours is probably different20:34
howtoo4gb20:34
coreymon77howtoo: is it a touch?20:34
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: What kind of graphics card do you have?20:34
howtoonope20:34
Kubuntu_N00bIntel Integrated20:34
coreymon77howtoo: okay then, amarok can do it20:34
howtoocoreymon77: cool =)20:34
ardchoillecoreymon77: amarok can't handle the touch?20:34
Kubuntu_N00bIntel Mobile 915GM20:35
coreymon77ardchoille: most things have issues with the touch20:35
coreymon77ardchoille: with one of those, youre better off wine'ing itunes20:35
ardchoilleok, I'll remember to not buy the touch20:35
OxDeadC0dedraik: so like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/66414/20:35
coreymon77ardchoille: i have one, and not to say i dont love it (especially after jailbreaking) but, many things have issues with it20:35
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/66415/20:36
Kubuntu_N00bIntel Mobile 915GM, hazzy20:36
coreymon77ardchoille: then again, i have a mac to handle my ipod anyways :P20:36
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: Alright20:36
ardchoillehehe20:36
OxDeadC0dedraik: remove the subsection display too20:36
OxDeadC0dedraik: those rely on the modelines existing in the monitor section20:36
OxDeadC0dedraik: just copy/paste the last one I posted ;)20:36
Kubuntu_N00balso, it's not Compiz related as I shutted it down and still getting this weird thing20:37
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: PM me the output of lsmod20:37
jussi01!paste20:38
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:38
SiDiHi peeps20:38
hazzyErr, ok, pastebin20:38
draikOxDeadC0de: Done.20:38
draikReboot?20:38
OxDeadC0dedraik just control+alt+backspace, it will restart xorg20:38
JulienHi!20:38
draikOxDeadC0de: Ha! Forgot about that.20:38
draikHope to be right back...20:38
jussi01draik: wait!20:38
jussi01doh!20:39
enzo_jussi01: What?20:39
OxDeadC0dejussi01 he still has a user on this chat, , enzo_ is him too ;)20:39
jussi01OxDeadC0de: you need alt+e as well after the ctrl alt backspace...20:39
JulienHow can I change the theme in Kde 4.0?20:39
jussi01enzo_: ^^20:39
OxDeadC0dejussi01 alt+e?20:39
jussi01OxDeadC0de: ctrl alt backspace takes you to the kdm login, but doesnt actually restart x20:40
jussi01alt+e at kdm login actully restarts x20:40
OxDeadC0dejussi01 it kills xorg, kdm starts another x session20:40
enzo_yup20:40
jtechidnayup20:40
SiDi!wiki change theme20:40
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:40
* SiDi slaps ubottu 20:41
jussi01SiDi: !!!20:41
* enzo_ slaps SiDi20:41
SiDiWell, Julien's wondering, and all of you do know the answer !20:41
jussi01!owner > SiDi20:41
ubottuSiDi, please see my private message20:41
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: This didn't happen in Ubuntu?20:41
Kubuntu_N00bnope20:41
Kubuntu_N00bneither in XFCE20:41
enzo_I'm curious...20:42
enzo_!owner20:42
ubottuThis bot is owned by jussi01 - Questions about ubottu should be asked in #ubuntu-bots20:42
enzo_Ah20:42
ardchoilleit's jussi01's bot :)20:42
* SiDi slaps jussi01 then.20:42
enzo_jussi01: Well, that makes it double20:42
* SiDi runs.20:42
enzo_WTH?20:42
jussi01enzo_: ?20:43
OxDeadC0deenzo_ ?20:43
enzo_SiDi just slapped jussi0120:43
hazzyKubuntu_N00b: Sorry, I have no other ideas20:43
enzo_OxDeadC0de: :( It didn't work20:43
OxDeadC0deenzo_ xorg still starts though right?20:43
Kubuntu_N00bthanks, hazzy20:43
Kubuntu_N00bi guess that I should go back to Gnome then... this flickering or glitching or whatever is killing my eyes20:44
enzo_OxDeadC0de: Nope. Took me to the TTY120:44
enzo_Restored mine right now and I'm back into Kubuntu20:45
OxDeadC0deenzo_ hmm, try erasing the DefaultDepth line from xorg.conf20:45
enzo_Why doesn't Yakuake remember my settings for 100% width and 50% height?20:45
OxDeadC0deenzo that might require the subsection display to exist, which we removed20:45
OxDeadC0deenzo_ kde doesn't kill it properly, simply set it to your preffered settings, then close yakuake via the close button on it, then restart it20:46
enzo_Was about to do that. Thanks20:46
snikkerhi, i've updatd to 8.10 and now i can't read the name of files that contain iso8859-15 chars, can you help me please?20:47
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OxDeadC0de/w enzo_ and to get glx to work, try this xorg.conf then :/, if it doesn't work restore yours again ^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/66420/20:47
OxDeadC0deoops :P20:47
draikOxDeadC0de: I'm about to use the Hardware Drivers to enable nVidia20:48
OxDeadC0dedraik: that's a good idea ;)20:48
gsa10132is Azureus the commonly used bittorrent client on Linux? I'm about to give up on that.. I have opened both the UDP and TCP ports (internally and externally), have uPnP activated, and ports are forwarded, but I still can't connect to other peers..20:49
draikgsa10132: Why not use ktorrent?20:49
OxDeadC0degsa10132 I typically use uTorrent with wine20:49
gsa10132hmm, yeah, I'll probably try something else.. Azureus is just killing me..20:49
draikI used Azureus about 2-3 years ago when I was using windows XP20:50
vurvwhere do you go to get more window decorations for KDE4?20:50
OxDeadC0dekde-look.org20:50
vurvOxDeadC0de: which category though?20:50
rien-ne-va-plusdoes anybody around here know a good software to use your mobile phone with kubuntu?20:50
rien-ne-va-pluslike data exchange?20:50
vurvi just upgraded to Intrepid last night20:50
vurvso this is my first time in KDE420:50
OxDeadC0devurv: the window decorations section?20:50
vurvOxDeadC0de: so the 3.x ones apply to 4?20:51
draikOxDeadC0de: I can't get it to activate. pressing the button doesn't do anything.20:51
OxDeadC0devurv: there's a native kde4 section20:51
OxDeadC0dedraik: could the existing install of the nvidia drivers you have going be conflicting with it?20:51
vurvOxDeadC0de: yeah, i'm totally blind20:51
vurvjust saw that20:51
draikOxDeadC0de: At the bottom, it says that an older version of this driver is in use.20:52
draikOxDeadC0de: IIRC, that didn't stop me last time20:52
OxDeadC0dedraik: Ahh, well, you can either remove it, or in the section "Device" add: driver "nv" to make sure it's not in use (and sudo rmmod nvidia - after restarting xorg with the nv driver)20:53
OxDeadC0dein xorg.conf20:54
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janorcuttayo ppl wats krakin20:57
psycontm just all hatin on dem bugs20:57
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janorcuttdamn baby kde 4 got a few20:58
psycoXD no shiz20:58
DragnslicerIs it my imagination, or did the 8.04 -> 8.10 upgrade not add a grub entry for the new kernel?20:58
janorcuttdont know bout upgade i came from gentoo peeps20:59
psycoo-m-f-g20:59
rien-ne-va-plusdoes kdebluetooth4 work? it doesnt work for me. is there a patch?20:59
psycoSMB is wokgin again for me20:59
janorcuttwat20:59
psycoi've missed smb for sooo long  and its finally back XD21:00
janorcuttjust transfered all my media with smb... omg so good21:00
Dragnslicerrien-ne-va-plus: the release notes say that Bluetooth doesn't work in Kubuntu 8.10 yet21:02
janorcuttprobably have to revert ot an earlier vers of the bluetooth stack21:03
janorcuttalso make sure its enabled in the kernel21:03
rien-ne-va-plushow can i install kdebluetooth3?21:05
janorcuttuse apt-get install21:05
jtechidnarien-ne-va-plus: it's not a problem on kde's end21:05
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jtechidnabluetooth broke it and kdebluetooth needs an update21:05
jtechidnasince kdebluetooth for kde3 is broken it wouldn't work either21:05
jtechidnaer, since kdebluetooth for kde3 is older21:06
janorcuttif the blurtooth works...21:06
jtechidnaThey updated the bluetooth stack, which broke kdebluetooth21:07
jtechidnathe current kdebluetooth needs updated to cope with the changes21:07
janorcuttnot sure my end21:07
janorcuttbluetooth worked last time i checked with 8.0421:08
jtechidnasince kde3's kbluetooth is older than kde4's kbluetooth, there's no way it will work21:08
tacosarecoolhello21:08
janorcutty not, linux is so versitile, it can be made to work21:08
tacosarecoolfavro I just reinstalled the proprietary drivers it works fine now21:09
tacosarecoolI'm pretty sure21:09
tacosarecoolAnyway thanks for your time bye21:09
Adam24_I've got a question.21:09
draikOxDeadC0de: Your last xorg.conf did it.21:10
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OxDeadC0dedraik cool :), grats21:10
janorcuttyes adam21:10
snikkerAdam24_: just ask the question21:10
draikOxDeadC0de: I know there's something else, but heck if I can remember right now. Oh well. Thanks for all the help. Much appreciated.21:10
OxDeadC0dedraik: any time :) glad to be of service21:11
Adam24_is Kubuntu 8.10 a modified version of KDE 4.1.2 or does it have a vanilla kde4 desktop by default?21:12
draikI remember now. How do I get rid of the menu on the left side of Konqueror?21:12
OxDeadC0deit's modified a bit, at least I know the python bindings for plasma were backported for kubuntu21:12
jtechidnaAdam24_: it has several patches from KDE 4.1.3, taskmanager tooltips, as well as a customly-config'd panel21:13
sourcemakerhow can I remove old kde3 programms in intrepid... which are not more required after upgrade from gusty...21:13
jtechidnawhere arrangement of applets have been modified21:13
sourcemakerlike kpdf21:13
Adam24_but on the outside it still has the KDE square logo in the bottom-right corner?21:13
jtechidnaon the outside of what?21:14
draiksourcemaker: sudo apt-get autoremove should take care of that for you21:14
sourcemakerdraik: no... does not work21:14
jtechidnaAdam24_: do you mean the menu launcher button in the bottom left?21:15
jtechidnaif so, yes, that is the KDE symbol21:15
frinuxfrhi21:15
sourcemakerdraik: it does not take care for that21:15
rien-ne-va-plushow do i downgrade my kdebluetooth4 to version 3 to make it work?21:15
janorcuttit still kde baby21:15
OxDeadC0dedraik dunno about that one sry21:15
frinuxfrit seems the upgrade to 8.10 has some problems :-(21:15
jtechidnarien-ne-va-plus: it's not a matter of downgrading kdebluetooth21:15
jtechidnayou'll need to downgrade bluetooth itself21:15
frinuxfrkde lost all settings21:15
rien-ne-va-pluso.O21:16
frinuxfrand I've got no task bar21:16
frinuxfrI wonder how to fix that21:16
OxDeadC0derien: you can either boot to an older kernel which has the old bluetooth stack, or you can find another program that's been updated for the new bluetooth stack already, or wait for kdebluetooth to be updated21:16
rien-ne-va-plusalright21:16
Cheaterman_Hi everyone.21:17
rien-ne-va-pluswhich kernel version had the old bluetooth stack?21:17
Cheaterman_I'm tryin to boot a 6.10 CD on a comp and it doesn't work atm, all seems well but I get dropped to a blackscreen with a nice white _ blinking;21:17
draikWas katapult removed in Ibex?21:18
draik!info katapult21:18
ubottuPackage katapult does not exist in intrepid21:18
coreymon77i dont think 6.10 is still supported, is it?21:18
Cheaterman_What am I supposed to do ? (except downloading hh or II)21:18
Cheaterman_coreymon77, nope it's not anymore21:18
Cheaterman_But I can't wait and DL another ISO21:18
coreymon77upgrade21:18
Cheaterman_Too long, and internet too slow for this (hey, this iso is like 700mb !)21:18
coreymon77use the torrents21:19
coreymon77they are much faster21:19
Cheaterman_DL is at 60kbps max :s21:19
OxDeadC0decheaterman_ order a free cd? (shipit.kubuntu.org)21:19
OxDeadC0debut that would take longer than to d/l the iso21:19
TetracommHello.21:19
Cheaterman_OxDeadC0de, I'm supposed to repair a PC right now :p21:19
nejodefrinuxfr: kde3.5 or 4.1?21:19
TetracommI just installed a program using make install and this is the error I get when I try to run it, help?: http://pastebin.com/d56a830e21:19
Cheaterman_OxDeadC0de, exactly21:19
Cheaterman_I only lack of time atm21:19
coreymon77we cant help you, 6.10 is no longer supported, and the bugs in it are fixed21:19
Cheaterman_Eeeerf21:20
Cheaterman_Okay21:20
coreymon77the torrents are fast21:20
Cheaterman_Never mind then :s21:20
coreymon77try the others21:20
draikIs there an alternative to katapult?21:20
jtechidnadraik: krunner, it's installed by default21:20
* janorcutt is listning to Turisas - One More on Amarok21:21
chrisruls00Is there a way to change the key-binding of krunner?21:21
DragnslicerIs it just me, or is Konsole very broken in 8.10?21:21
Cheaterman_Even if I got no help, thanks ^^21:21
Cheaterman_(Was prepared to it)21:21
Cheaterman_Have a nice day everyone21:21
sourcemakercan I use the following command... to remove kde3 programms using kde4? sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a21:22
chrisruls00Konsole is fine for me, my main problem is my NVidia 96 series driver isn't working, and for some reason when I type random short black lines flash on the screen real fast.21:22
draikjtechidna: That is the run command, same as ALT+F2.  I guess it's the same thing.21:23
Dragnslicerchrisruls00: sounds like the issue I just had. Check what kernel you're booted into21:23
chrisruls00how do I check that?21:24
karlin 8.10, why is vim-tiny installed by default, and not vim?21:24
OxDeadC0dechrisruls00: uname -r21:24
karlIt took me a while to figure out why :syntax on wasn't working21:25
chrisruls002.6.27-7-generic21:25
Dragnslicerchrisruls00: try running the hardware driver manager21:26
pwnuanybody here running dropbox?21:26
DragnslicerKMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers21:26
chrisruls00I've already tried.21:26
chrisruls00the ubuntu and nvidia website both state 96 series dosen't work21:26
jtechidnathere's an update to the 96 series coming21:27
NamShubI do not have sound in any non-kde apps...21:29
NamShubanyone know what might cuase that?21:29
chrisruls00yeah, thats what I've heard. I tried installing the new beta, and It actually installed unlike the other virsions, but when I configure xorg.conf the xserver just gives me a screen with multi-colored vertical lines.21:29
* draik is listening to City by Hollywood Undead on Swan Songs [Amarok]21:30
hazzyCall the church police!21:30
draikLOL21:30
hazzyPeter: Listen Lois, I know you're a feminist and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man.21:31
hazzySorry, having too much fun with Uberscript21:32
howtoosomebody else has problems with hda_intel sound in 8.10?21:32
draikPeter: You'd better watch who you're calling a child, Lois. Because if I'm a child, you know what that makes you? A Pedophile. And I'll be damned if I'm gonna be lectured by a pervert.21:32
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hazzyWhy Beer Is Better Than A Woman. - Beer labels come off without a fight.21:38
hazzyEr, oops21:39
XenThraLI keep getting a message21:39
XenThraLin KDE or gnome21:39
XenThraL"art error"21:39
XenThraLsomething about CPU usage21:39
ten_Hi21:42
iPwnUanybody here running dropbox?21:42
slow-motionn821:46
DragnslicerHas anyone figured out how to fix this stupid knotify/phonon crash?21:48
mrunagidoes anyone know how to fix 'could not commit changes' errors when trying to upgrade?21:51
psyco!info azureus21:53
ubottuazureus (source: azureus): BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1.0-3ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 10054 kB, installed size 11488 kB21:53
mrunagi!commit21:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about commit21:53
mrunagican you upgrade from the live cd?21:53
W8TAHhi folks -- lookin or suggestions -- i use IRC extensively -- on a variety of servers -- ive messed with the following clients - -with the associated problems -- konversation -- problems with notificatins - disabling shuts off ALL notification on a chan not just sound, KVIRC -- fantastic  -but very unstable, Xchat --works but ugly and not real feature rich, MIRC - dear lord WHY? kopete -- per channel notification (sound) does not work - - im looking fo21:58
W8TAHr ideas / input etc - -anyone have suggestions?21:58
tbr281whats the correct sudo command line for firefox3?21:58
ardchoilletbr281: firefox doesn't work for your user?21:59
ArkoldThosW8TAH: here konversation is working very nice :D21:59
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W8TAHkonversation is great -- except for the notification problem -- if that could be fixed -- id be on it in an instant -- but wehn i turn off sound notifications on a chan, it also disables the color change on the tab/tree and i loose track of the convos in the chan22:00
tbr281ok then what about kde4?22:00
ArkoldThos:/22:00
tbr281last time i was given an incorrect line and it screwed up my machine22:01
W8TAHArkoldThos, i appreciate the suggestion22:02
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tbr281ardchoille: tried installing FF3 and it gave me a beta that mozilla is currently working on22:03
trvI upgraded my system from kubuntu hardy to intrepid with kde4, and in nautilus, .doc files are associated with wine for some odd reason. If i right click, go at 'open with' and choose open office writer, and remember this association, it opens correctly, but it forgets the file association, so next time it wants to open it with wine again!22:04
ardchoilletbr281: firefox is in the repos. why did you install it manually? Testing purposes?22:04
trvthis does not happen in konqueror though22:04
tbr281ardchoille: i did install from repos22:04
ardchoilletbr281: Then it should run fine with your user. I don't mean to be a pain but what exactly is the problem?22:05
tbr281thats why i'm asking to see if i made a mistake when i sudo'ed it22:05
ardchoilletbr281: check to see if any files in your home are owned by root;  find ~ -user root22:05
ardchoilleI'll bet there are some and root shouldn't own any of the files in your home.22:06
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tbr281just forget about it, i'm gunna try installing it once i get kde4 on here22:06
DragnslicerWell, this upgrade wasn't as painless as it should have been22:07
ardchoilleok. but I just wanted to tell you that firefox is one of the apps that you should never have to run as root22:07
tbr281right22:07
DragnslicerAnd knotify/phonon crashing doesn't seem to be fixed22:07
tbr281can you give me the correct command line for kde4?22:08
ardchoilletbr281: to run firefox as the root user?22:08
tbr281no22:09
tbr281just want to get kde4 and then i'll figure out the rest22:09
ardchoilletbr281: I've never had an upgrade go well so I don't mess with them, but I can do this for you22:09
ardchoille!upgrade | tbr28122:10
ubottutbr281: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes22:10
NeutrinuxHi. I'm new in here. I just installed intrepid, and the only thing not working is printing : when i do in a term "lpr file.pdf" it perfectly works. But when I print the same file from a graphic app only a blank page comes out. Is it known?22:11
tbr281thnx22:12
ardchoilleyw22:12
Traveler1I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt22:13
Traveler1I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt22:14
Neutrinuxmaybe a dpkg-reconfigure kdm22:14
Traveler1kz22:14
Traveler1brb22:15
Traveler1I'll go try22:15
larsiviwtf is firefox doing? it is constantly using 18% CPU and I don't even use it beyond having it open - my 7 konqueror windows use nothing22:15
emilianobuonasera a tutti22:21
emilianocome faccio ad installare firefox3 su kubuntu senza tirarmi dietro mezzo gnome?22:21
Traveler1Neutrinux, didn't work22:21
Traveler1I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt22:21
Traveler1I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt22:22
ardchoilleemiliano: italiano? espanol?22:23
DragnslicerTraveler1: sounds like the problem I had, which was the new kernel version not being added to the grub menu22:23
emilianoardchoille: italiano22:23
W8TAHTraveler1, repeating will only get you yelled at by the ops22:23
ardchoille!it | emiliano22:23
ubottuemiliano: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)22:23
emilianook22:23
Traveler1Dragonath, how'd you fix it?22:23
DragnslicerTraveler1- what does uname -r say?22:23
Traveler1I don't know22:23
Traveler1I'm at my neighbors house22:23
Traveler1xD22:23
ardchoillehehe22:24
DragnslicerI fixed it by adding the menu entry for the new kernel22:24
DragnslicerThe problem is a conflict between the updated nVidia drivers and the old kernel22:24
Traveler1Dragnslicer, can you tell me how to do that in PM22:25
Traveler1=)\22:25
DragnslicerCopy and paste the entries for the old kernel, then change the numbers22:26
ardchoilleDragnslicer: actually that is related to Kubuntu so probably best in channel so others can learn22:26
Dragnslicerardchoille- I wasn't going to answer his message anyway22:26
ardchoilleok22:26
DragnslicerI've been on IRC long enough22:26
ardchoille:)22:26
Dragnslicers/long enough/way too long/22:27
Traveler1Dragnslicer, can you give me step by step instructions22:27
Traveler1in here then22:27
Traveler1><22:27
DragnslicerNot unless you can follow them one at a time22:27
Traveler1crap ><22:28
Traveler1my computer is at my house22:28
Traveler1I'm at a friends house22:28
DragnslicerI changed the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from nvidia to vesa to get a semi-usable desktop, then opened /boot/grub/menu.lst in kate, copied/pasted the sections for the old kernel, and changed the numbers to the new kernel version22:28
Traveler1because i only have one computer22:28
Traveler1how do you edit a file in command?22:31
Dragnslicernano22:31
Traveler1ty22:32
yoanhello22:38
draik_I don't have any audio with my laptop install22:40
draik_It's a fresh install from the LiveCD22:40
DragnslicerIs there any way to get knotify to use something other than phonon?22:41
draik_!info yakuake22:42
ubottuyakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.3-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 1292 kB22:42
jussi01draik: do you have more than one audiointerface?22:52
axelHello! Is there Katapult or something similar in KDE4?22:52
marektjussi01 i have simmilar problem but on desktop22:52
jussi01draik: check in system settings ->sound -> and set the correct device priority22:53
draikjussi01: No, just one.22:53
marektaxel, try alt+f222:53
marektits called krunner22:53
ardchoillehow do you change yakuake skins?22:54
axelmarekt: Tanks. Is it the same as in KDE 3.5?22:54
draikardchoille: Menu > Configure Yakuake22:54
draikardchoille: Appearance section is what you want, specifically22:55
draikjussi01: I only have one device listed in all sections.22:55
marektaxel it is different, but works simmilar22:55
ardchoilledraik: there is no Menu > Configure22:56
jussi01draik: and you have checked in alsamixer all the volumes are up? (hint: alsamixer in terminal)22:56
draikardchoille: When you press the down arrow at the bottom right corner of Yakuake, it shows the menu. At the bottom of the list, Configure Yakuake22:56
axelmarekt: Thanks for the hint. I'll try it later.22:56
draikjussi01: I'll check in terminal, but yes.22:57
ardchoilledraik: ah, ok, didn't see that tiny button. Thanks :)22:57
draikardchoille: :) NP, any time.22:57
draikjussi01: Everything is in the red levels with the exception of Line and 2 "3D Contrl"22:58
draikjussi01: Ok, now everything is at 10023:00
jussi01draik: lappy od desktop?23:01
draik_laptop23:01
jussi01soundcard?23:01
draik_Generic sound card from Intel; came with Dell23:01
humpbackHello all23:02
humpbackI installed Kubuntu 8.1023:02
jussi01draik: give me the full listing from lspci?23:02
KDeskHow can I add a favorite (a directory, folder) in the kickoff menu witch has spaces? It adds the spaces like this  "Folder%20Name""23:02
humpbackis there a simple way to change to Ubuntu or di I need to do a full install?23:02
Dragnslicerhumpback- you can install ubuntu-desktop23:02
deftonehumpback: change from a different distro?23:02
axelNow I have a different question: I intend to by a new cell wich should easily synchronize with KDE4 (beside contacs, tasks, dates also data). Other desirable features would be: GPS-receiver, programmable (there should be the possibility to write programs for it), G3/UMTS, WLAN (g-standard), IR)23:02
jussi01humpback: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop23:03
axelDoes anybody know a cell matching these requirements?23:03
jussi01axel: N96.23:03
thedark_how do I install a python app?23:03
jussi01thedark_: which one?23:03
thedark_gdick23:03
thedark_it is a Korean-English dictionary23:04
humpbackdeftone: kubunto 8.10 to ubunto 8.1023:04
draik_!pastebin23:04
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:04
draik_!medibuntu23:04
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org23:04
deftonehmmm....i would do a full install of ubuntu 8.10.....in my opinion kubuntu has some serious bugs if u try to just get rid of kde423:05
draikjussi01: Sorry for the delay. Never setup a default browser with the laptop yet.23:05
axeljussi01: Thanks. That phone seems really cool!23:05
jussi01axel: only thing Im not _certain_ on is the contact sync...23:05
jussi01axel: its very similar to the n95, so google around a bit23:07
* hazzy gives Nobody Windoze XP23:08
axeljussi01: Thanks for the hint. The synchronization is the condition sine qua non: no deal without that.23:08
thedark_I have a setup.py23:08
* hazzy gives Nobody GOD23:08
thedark_I assume I do something with that?23:08
jussi01thedark_: are you familiar with terminal commands?23:08
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deftonewhat's the easiest way to remove firefox?23:09
jussi01thedark_: if so, then change to the directory that file is in, and do: ./setup.py23:09
emilianohow can I install firefox 3 on kubuntu without installing the gnome dependencies?23:10
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axeldeftone: I'd try: sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get autoremove23:10
jussi01deftone: sudo apt-get remove firefox23:10
deftonethat will remove all the dependencies?23:10
axeldeftone: the command after && is for cleaning the system from packages that are not needed any more.23:10
axeldeftone: It should.23:11
deftonek got ya...thanks guys23:11
ardchoilleaxel:  sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove firefox23:11
thedark_its giving me an error saying I need an additional command or something23:12
ardchoilleaxel: the --auto-remove was added not too long ago23:12
deftoneok that was weird....it didn't remove it at all...lol23:12
axelardchoille: I didn't know that so far. Thanks for the hint.23:12
ardchoilleyw23:13
jussi01emiliano: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox23:13
jussi01emiliano: that should give you the basics only.23:14
hazzy#kubuntu achieved a max peak of 378 users by client09 on Sun Nov  2 16:00:34 2008.23:14
emilianoi'll try tnxs23:15
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* hazzy gives jussi01 Tintin's father Herge23:16
Wickedhello all. is there any kinda program running by default that caches file locations? i know of updatedb....but im wondering if there is any in kde.....23:17
Atomic_UEUsing Ubuntu 8.10 I installed kubuntu-desktop. When I'm in KDE the kNetworkManager  applet doesn't connect to anything unless I connect via the original gnome nm-applet. the kNetworkManager see and lets me enter passwords/settings for wifi networks but it won't actually connect or even try to connect to anything23:18
jeiworthskype 2.0.0.27 does not show own webcam-image, i.e. it does until i receive the video signal from my counterpart, anyone know anything about this? or is my skype-config crud?23:19
thedark_here is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66486/23:21
draik_jussi01: Sorry for taking so long... http://paste.ubuntu.com/66487/23:22
thedark_anyone?23:26
KDeskI have deleted all window specific sizes but every time I open a program (kate, konsole, etc) the size is the same, the default. What can I do?23:26
thedark_I'm sure its a really simple problem...23:26
benjamin_does anyone know when openoffice will be rolled out to 8.04?23:32
ardchoillebenjamin_: uhm OO.o ships with 8.0423:33
coreymon77benjamin_: it isnt in the repos yet?23:33
draikjussi01: Any luck with my lspci?23:36
benjamin_ardchoille: 2.4 does, yes, but i'm hoping for 3.023:38
ardchoillebenjamin_: Ah, ok23:38
benjamin_coreymon77: i was hoping adept_manager would update it for me...23:38
draikWhat is the purpose to showing the dashboard?23:38
kevbuntuhey everybody! this is my first visit to irc23:39
coreymon77kevbuntu: hi buddy, welcome!23:40
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kevbuntuthank you!23:40
kevbuntuirc is really cool23:40
kevbuntui like it23:40
kevbuntucan i connect to another channel in the same window? say linxforums.org?23:41
TannHello23:42
deftonewhat's the best terminal manager for ultimate ubuntu?23:43
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benjamin_the version upgrade button doesn't appear in adept manager, is there another way to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?23:47
coreymon77deftone: regular old terminal works perfectly fine23:47
draik!upgrade | benjamin_23:47
ubottubenjamin_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes23:47
draikdeftone: I like Yakuake. I have it in my ~/.kde/Autostart and it's just a button away23:48
draikkevbuntu: It's a window/tab per channel or server.23:49
benjamin_draik: any chance instructions exist for kde? I don't really know where the equivalent menus are at23:50
draikSame thing23:50
draikK Menu > System > ...23:50
draikIt's all there23:50
cn28hHow do I find the "restricted drivers manager" in Intrepid? I never bothered with them before, but with the compositing effects that are enabled now it's a little sluggish.. so I figured I'd see if proprietary drivers make any difference23:50
draikcn28h: K Menu > Application > System > Hardware Devices23:51
draikSorry, Hardware Drivers23:51
benjamin_draik: in the "updates" tab in adept, there is no option for selecting "release upgrades"23:52
cn28hdraik, it jut says that there are no proprietary drivers in use but doesn't give me an option to enable anything.. does that mean that none are available for my hardware?23:52
draikbenjamin_: It's not in Adept23:53
draikcn28h: That may be the case or you don't have the restricted packages enabled/installed.23:53
cn28hah23:53
benjamin_draik: then where else in kmenu > system should i look? there aren't all that many options in there23:53
Nicho2hi23:54
draikbenjamin_: Hold up. Let me get the instructions from the site.23:54
Nicho2I tried to upgrade to kubuntu but now I only get a black screen when x11 should start up23:55
Nicho2the x server seems to be running though23:55
Search4Lancerhey all: I'm upgrading to Ibex, and it's stuck at 99% searching for obsolete software - but the reboot message came up and icon is in the bar -- shall I reboot now, or is it really still searching?23:55
arrrghhhso kde4 is kinda cool.  i miss some 3.5 stuff... but i'm hoping it'll get more configurable.  i'm wondering if anyone has experience setting up Xorg?  every dist-upgrade i've done it's been a hassle trying to get my separate X screens to work right.  i have twinview working now for one monitor, but the main monitor won't go to its max res.23:55
draikbenjamin_: K Menu > System > Update Manager23:55
draikThat is where it will all begin23:55
Nicho2even booting from the intrepid cd gives leads to a black screen on my system23:56
benjamin_draik: i don't have "Update Manager" I do have "Adept Manager", is that equivalent?23:56
draikNo23:56
arrrghhhbenjamin_, update-manager i believe is based on synaptic.  it's gtk at the least.23:57
ardchoillefor anyone who wants to make a button to open yakuake, use this command: dcop yakuake DCOPInterface slotToggleState23:57
arrrghhhare you doing a dist-upgrade benjamin_ ?23:57
benjamin_found instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu23:57
ardchoilledcop rocks!23:58
benjamin_they're a bit different than the ubuntu ones, fyi23:58
draikardchoille: A button?23:58
kevbuntuok i got it. thanks man! how do I change my nickname??23:58
draikkevbuntu: use "/nick YourNewName"23:58
ardchoilledraik: for any other means of opening besides the key23:58
arrrghhhbenjamin_, best way i think is something like do-dist-upgrade or something like that.23:59
draikardchoille: Gotcha. Side question, what's with DCOP and replacing ... I can't recall what it is now, but it replaced something.23:59
kevbuntujust right into the text line that i write my messages in??23:59
ardchoilledraik: Hmm.. can't remember23:59
arrrghhhbenjamin_, do-release-upgrade is the "best" way imho.23:59

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