[01:15] <psiforce> anyone else having problems with navigation buttons in firefox (running intrepid 64)
[01:20] <psiforce> hmm must have corrupted my profile somehow :(. "rm ~/.mozilla" fixed the problem
[08:15] <rrittenhouse> I am "trying out" the assigning a package to a bug report task. I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/292355 Should I assign it to xorg?
[08:15] <rrittenhouse> or are there more steps that I should think about first
[12:21] <xteejx> Bug 287244 changed to: Confirmed - Not just me that has the problem on the CQ50
[12:26] <xteejx> Question: What does the command lspci -nnv show that is any different from the standard lspci command
[12:26] <xteejx> ?
[12:27] <afflux> xteejx: device IDs and more detailed information
[12:29] <xteejx> So if I get Ubuntu to boot at all then I should copy the output of that into my bug report for more info?
[13:59] <Elbrus> bug 186449 is a wishlist item
[14:00] <Elbrus> bug 155930 has priority low
[14:00] <Elbrus> could somebody mark those appropriately?
[14:24] <franswa99> Hi there ! I'd like to join the ubuntu bugsquad team... the only question is... how do I get started ?
[14:25] <franswa99> I just opened an account on launchpad
[14:25] <Elbrus> I am trying to backtrace plasma, but after installing kdebase-workspace-dbg the gdb log says "The program has no registers now." Am I missing something?
[14:25] <franswa99> read the wiki
[14:25] <Elbrus> franswa99: great
[14:25] <franswa99> I see that one of the tasks is "assigning packages" but I'm not so sure to know how to do that
[14:26] <franswa99> I mean: I can see the bugs that have no package
[14:26] <franswa99> but I'm not sure in which package they belong
[14:26] <Elbrus> franswa99: AFAICT you read through a bug report, possibly ask questions to the reporter, and decide which package the bug belongs to
[14:27] <Elbrus> that's why it sometimes takes time: communicate with the reporter
[14:27] <Elbrus> do google
[14:27] <Elbrus> etc.
[14:27] <Elbrus> and of course, you can always ask help here.
[14:28] <Elbrus> (as I just did at the beginning of your questions...)
[14:28] <franswa99> ok
[14:28] <franswa99> and is there a place where I can see the list of possible packages
[14:29] <franswa99> to which a bug can be assigned?
[14:29] <Elbrus> launchpad has a list
[14:29]  * Elbrus is looking
[14:31] <Elbrus> well, what I was looking for is different, but basically ALL ubuntu packages are candidates.
[14:32] <franswa99> and how do you ask questions to the reporter in launchpad?
[14:32] <Elbrus> franswa99: by the way, don't worry if it takes some time to get a feeling for it
[14:32] <franswa99> ok !
[14:32] <Elbrus> just add a comment
[14:32] <franswa99> ok thanks
[14:33] <Elbrus> if you ask for more information, you usually can set the status to incomplete
[14:33] <angusthefuzz> franswa99: I would read the articles found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[14:34] <angusthefuzz> franswa99: specifically see the canned responses or "standard replies" section
[14:34] <franswa99> great thanks
[14:34] <franswa99> didn#
[14:34] <franswa99> didn't read those ones
[14:34] <angusthefuzz> franswa99: there is also a great youtube video tutorial on assigning packages, you will get the hang of it
[14:35] <Elbrus> angusthefuzz: would you have an url???
[14:35] <angusthefuzz> franswa99: if you have trouble, just ask questions here, someone should be around to give you some mentoring
[14:35]  * Elbrus would like to see it too
[14:35] <angusthefuzz> one second, i will find ity
[14:36] <Elbrus> :) [08:27] <Elbrus> and of course, you can always ask help here.
[14:36] <angusthefuzz> http://videos.ubuntu.com/qa/assigning-packages-to-bugs.ogg
[14:36] <Elbrus> angusthefuzz: thanks
[14:36] <angusthefuzz> (okay I lied, it wasnt youtube, but it is very helpful)
[14:36] <franswa99> thanks
[14:37] <angusthefuzz> thank you both for helping
[14:40] <Elbrus> because the question with franswa99 sort of shaded my question I as it again:
[14:40] <Elbrus> [08:25] <Elbrus> I am trying to backtrace plasma, but after installing kdebase-workspace-dbg the gdb log says "The program has no registers now." Am I missing something?
[14:40] <Elbrus> s/with/from
[16:38] <lfaraone> Hey world.
[16:39] <lfaraone> Where would a GNOME d-n-d bug (that dragging from the run dialog / a launcher to the "sessions" window should add that launcher as a startup item) go? (it affects 3 different applications)
[16:41] <Elbrus> lfaraone: add it to all three then? (via also affects)
[16:41] <Elbrus> can you give bug number?
[16:41] <lfaraone> Elbrus: doens't have one yet.
[16:41] <Elbrus> ok
[16:41] <lfaraone> Elbrus: I'm going to report it ina minute.
[16:42] <Elbrus> you can make in Launchpad that the bug affects multiple packages
[16:42] <Elbrus> s/make/mark
[16:43] <mrooney> Is there an easy way to tell what pulled in a certain package, ie what depended/recommended it such that it is now installed?
[16:44] <lfaraone> mrooney: rdepends.
[16:44] <mrooney> lfaraone: thanks!
[16:44] <lfaraone> mrooney: ie "$ apt-cache rdepends bash
[16:44] <lfaraone> mrooney: No problem.
[16:45] <angusthefuzz> lfaraone: it was my understand that drag-n-drop bugs should be filed under the drop application, unless there is so reason to believe the drag'd information is incorrect
[16:45] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: Ah, OK.
[16:46]  * lfaraone goes on a bug-reporting binge.
[16:51] <lfaraone> Ok, can someone confirm 292684 for me? (try to drag a launcher into gnome-session-properties) Oh, and it's wishlist, right? (I don't want to set my own bug priority)
[16:52] <lfaraone> * bug 292684
[17:02] <Elbrus> lfaraone: can you be more verbosive? I don't know now what to do to reproduce this bug (sorry, I don't understand the text)
[17:02] <lfaraone> Elbrus: ah, sorry.
[17:03] <lfaraone> Elbrus: Ok, there are launchers on your desktop, right? (links to applications)
[17:03] <Elbrus> I don't have any on my desktop.
[17:04] <lfaraone> Elbrus: Ok, create a  launcher by doing "alt + f2" , typing the app name, and dragging the icon to the desktop
[17:04] <angusthefuzz> lfaraone: i am able to drag from the panel to sessions without a problem, is that not specific enough?
[17:04] <lfaraone> Elbrus: in this case, we'll make a link to "gnome-terminal"
[17:04]  * Elbrus will do
[17:04] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: ah... odd...
[17:04] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: oh. oops.
[17:04] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: odd, that didn't work last time I tried it.
[17:05]  * lfaraone marks bug as invald.
[17:05] <angusthefuzz> heh
[17:05] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: while you're there, are there a lot of GNOME entries with "no description"?
[17:05] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: (that's another bug (a usability/"noob" bug) I'm gonna report)
[17:06] <angusthefuzz> yes lfaraone there are a lot with no description
[17:07] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: do you agree that that is a usability problem? (people should be able to understand why things do what they do on startup...)
[17:07] <angusthefuzz> lfaraone: I agree
[17:07] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: Ok. /me reportbugs
[17:08] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: That'd be one report with multiple "affects", right?
[17:08] <angusthefuzz> correct
[17:08] <angusthefuzz> actually, i am not sure where the descriptions are derived from
[17:10] <lfaraone> angusthefuzz: I'll ask in -motu
[17:10] <angusthefuzz> sounds like a plan
[17:37] <mohbana> hi, who is is responsible for the emacs 2.3 on ubuntu. i'd like to point out that there isn't even a link to start it
[17:37] <mohbana> it's the ver. of emacs with AA fonts
[17:44] <mohbana> is anyone around?
[17:47] <Elbrus> mohbana: usually it is motu (Masters of the Universe) but emacs is core (see http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/emacs)
[17:48] <Elbrus> #ubuntu-dev
[17:48] <Elbrus> I think
[17:49] <Elbrus> Oh, and it's version 22
[17:50] <mohbana> Elbrus, not it's 23 i'm referring to
[18:25] <angusthefuzz> does anyone have an opinion about bug #292362
[18:28] <greg-g> ummm, ask them to produce a mockup of what would make it look spherical instead of "flat" because I can't see this as an issue at all, I think we all know what we get when we represent a 3d object in 2d space.
[18:28] <angusthefuzz> i didnt know if it should be invalidated outright because monitors are 2d
[18:28] <angusthefuzz> but okay, I like your method better
[18:31] <greg-g> angusthefuzz: even in the most absurb of bugs it is best to give them a chance to fully explain themselves.
[18:31] <angusthefuzz> greg-g: that is good to keep in mind, thanks
[18:31] <angusthefuzz> sometimes its hard not to be snippy
[18:31] <angusthefuzz> since there are people with real problems out there
[18:33] <greg-g> angusthefuzz: yeah, I know.  If you find yourself about to post a snippy comment, it is best to breathe and come back to it later :)
[18:33] <angusthefuzz> yeah, it hasnt happened yet
[18:34] <yaxu> hi, i'm getting a problem with the shutdown dialog in intrepid ibex, where both hibernate and help are assigned the same shortkey (h)
[18:34] <greg-g> I've caught myself before doing it a couple of times, so just wait, you'll get there soon enough if you look at a sufficiently large number of bugs ;)
[18:35] <yaxu> also the shutdown window isn't in focus when i press the power button
[18:35] <yaxu> what app do i file that bug on?
[18:35] <greg-g> yaxu: I see "Shut Down" as having the S underlined
[18:36] <yaxu> greg-g: how about hibernate
[18:36] <greg-g> I'm not going to press "h" right now because I am in the middle of things, but can you take a screenshot of what you see?
[18:36] <yaxu> sure
[18:36] <greg-g> yaxu: hibernate has the "H" underlined
[18:36] <yaxu> greg-g: and help?
[18:37] <yaxu> i mean the help button
[18:38] <yaxu> greg-g: http://yaxu.org/hibernate.png
[18:38] <yaxu> greg-g: for me both hibernate and help have H underlined, so alt-h do nothing
[18:39] <greg-g> oh, I misunderstood you
[18:39] <yaxu> no need to try to press alt-h, you can see both with h underlined as you say
[18:39] <greg-g> sorry about that
[18:39] <yaxu> no prob
[18:39] <greg-g> and then I had the dialog open too long and it just shutdown my computer, hence the dealy
[18:39] <yaxu> :(
[18:39] <greg-g> delay
[18:40] <yaxu> sorry about that
[18:40] <yaxu> hope you didn't lose any important state
[18:40] <greg-g> yaxu: so it does nothing for you when you press alt+h?
[18:40] <yaxu> i'll double check
[18:40] <greg-g> yaxu: nope, I'm good, thanks though
[18:40] <yaxu> ok it does _something_
[18:41] <yaxu> it cycles between the two buttons
[18:41] <yaxu> whereas if I did alt-s it shuts down right away
[18:41] <yaxu> and in the previous ubuntu alt-h hibernated straight away
[18:46] <yaxu> Well that confirms it so i'll definitely report it, thanks
[18:46] <yaxu> seems i don't need to specify a particular package
[18:47] <yaxu> i'll stick a warning about the timeout on the report too!
[18:47] <greg-g> yaxu: sorry, I was just trying to find the right package, and it is "gnome-session"
[18:48] <greg-g> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+filebug
[18:56] <yaxu> ah thanks greg-g
[18:56] <yaxu> i just submitted, but i will edit
[18:56] <greg-g> yaxu: what is the bug number?
[18:57] <yaxu> 292734
[18:58] <greg-g> confirmed it
[18:59] <greg-g> actually, that is a simple enough bug that I just set it to triaged
[19:29] <yaxu> thanks greg
[19:29] <greg-g> yaxu: no problem, thanks for reporting
[19:32] <yaxu> a pleasure
[19:32]  * yaxu goes to find more
[19:44] <blackest_knight> is it a bug if alsa fails to reload its settings after a reboot?
[19:46] <blackest_knight> I can type sudo alsa-ctl restore and then they are restored just not say in rc.local
[19:48] <milos_> I have a problem with DVD drive. Every time I try eject dvd or cd it ejects and takes it back immediately. Against what I need to report bug?
[20:44] <mrooney> hm, the cruft remover seems to have uninstalled an application, somehow
[21:16] <nellery> mrooney: cruft remover did something to my grub menu.lst which made Ubunu unbootable and I had to go through lots of trouble fixing it
[21:16] <nellery> I no longer trust it..
[21:20] <tuxmaniac> mrooney: cruft remover removed non cruft data sometime back for me too
[22:46] <Heooo> I am not sure whether this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/258584) is fixed in 8.10. Anyway, my screen became and stayed black when I set the resolution too high.
[22:47] <Heooo> I installed 8.10 today so it probably has this fix or?
[22:48] <Heooo> How can I know whether this is a new bug.
[22:49] <murdok> Heooo: yes, it is supposed to be fixed in Intrepid
[22:50] <Heooo> murdok: Is this fix in the newest 8.10 Ubuntu?
[22:50] <murdok> If you are experiencing the same, you can reopen the bug explaining the reason, it can be a regression
[22:50] <murdok> yes
[22:50] <Heooo> murdok: Ok, I will open the bug. First, I will replicate it.
[22:55] <Heooo> Btw is it normal that the screen become blurry and black-greyish at some resolutions?