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| asac | @time ;) | 18:59 |
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| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: ;) - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 18:59 |
| asac | @time | 19:00 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: November 02 2008, 19:00:02 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 1 day | 19:00 |
| asac | hi! | 19:00 |
| fta | hi | 19:01 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings | 19:02 |
| asac | -> agenda | 19:02 |
| asac | if anyone has anything to add, go ahead | 19:02 |
| fta | short agenda apparently | 19:04 |
| asac | given that i am sick, its probably ok | 19:05 |
| asac | :) | 19:05 |
| asac | winter is coming | 19:05 |
| asac | lets wait for gnomefreak ;) | 19:06 |
| fta | ok | 19:07 |
| stgraber | asac: you now have a month to get better, then you'll get the UDS-flu | 19:07 |
| asac | oh no | 19:07 |
| asac | i know about that | 19:08 |
| asac | thought that california is hot then ;) | 19:08 |
| stgraber | well, yeah, that'll be good especially as I'll be flying from Montreal where it'll be likely be really cold at this time of the year (it's already -2 outside :)) | 19:09 |
| asac | stgraber: what are you doing there? | 19:09 |
| stgraber | asac: living and working :) | 19:09 |
| asac | oh | 19:09 |
| stgraber | moved there 3 months ago | 19:09 |
| asac | from where? | 19:09 |
| asac | oh switzerland | 19:10 |
| asac | ok | 19:10 |
| stgraber | yeah | 19:10 |
| asac | cool ;) | 19:10 |
| asac | fta: so i guess gnomefreak bailed out ;) | 19:10 |
| fta | asac, or still fighting against evil wifi | 19:11 |
| asac | oh he is on wifi? | 19:11 |
| asac | i told him that drugs aint good for him ;) | 19:11 |
| * asac wonders if he has still 256m | 19:12 | |
| asac | ok anyway lets get started ;) ... | 19:12 |
| asac | NCommander applied for team membership | 19:12 |
| asac | however, apparently he didnt made it here, even though he reaffirmed that he would participate | 19:13 |
| asac | his area of interest is helping to be more of a debian bridge ;) ... i guess | 19:13 |
| asac | he jumped the gun to help out on icedove ;), but from what i understood would be willing to do more. | 19:14 |
| fta | not sure what kind of bridge we could (re)build here. | 19:14 |
| asac | I dont know either. maybe he could also help communicating with debian maintainers | 19:14 |
| fta | maybe he should start to contribute, before applying | 19:14 |
| asac | trying to get patches out of them for instance | 19:14 |
| asac | yeah. he only did the icedove update here. | 19:15 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hi ;) | 19:16 |
| gnomefreak | hi | 19:16 |
| * gnomefreak trying to grab agenda | 19:16 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: so we are currently discussing ncommanders application | 19:16 |
| asac | i think we are currently leaning towards asking for more contributions first ;) | 19:17 |
| asac | anyway, he didnt show up so the question is void | 19:17 |
| gnomefreak | works for me. if he can fix my network ill give him membership and 50 pounds of goldf | 19:17 |
| asac | lets push that back to next meeting ... there should be plenty of time to show that he wants to help out more than once | 19:17 |
| gnomefreak | ok we should ping him during the week about it | 19:18 |
| asac | i think he definitly is technically adapt enough | 19:18 |
| gnomefreak | push mine back as well | 19:18 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you have 50 pounds of gold? thats quite a lot at todays prices | 19:18 |
| asac | ok so thats done then i think | 19:18 |
| gnomefreak | no but i have 50 pounds of goldf ;) | 19:18 |
| asac | he | 19:19 |
| asac | ok lets review actions from last meeting then ;) | 19:19 |
| asac | i think they are there | 19:19 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-09-14 | 19:19 |
| asac | 1st. Check for extensions and plugins that are not supported in Firefox 3, and remove them, if there are no updates for them | 19:20 |
| asac | i think that was done | 19:20 |
| asac | 2nd. Remove Firefox 2 from the archive | 19:20 |
| asac | is done too i think | 19:20 |
| gnomefreak | 3rd was done as well | 19:20 |
| asac | yeah | 19:20 |
| asac | that was "Add abrowser to all firefox rdepends and upload" | 19:20 |
| gnomefreak | and 4th will hit in +1? | 19:21 |
| asac | 4th. Try to get Firefox 3.1 alpha2 into the archive | 19:21 |
| fta | failed | 19:21 |
| asac | i am not sure when 3.1 will be out | 19:21 |
| asac | we certainly want it in asap | 19:21 |
| gnomefreak | its b1 now isnt it? | 19:21 |
| asac | but for a while it probably should stay in universe not being the default | 19:21 |
| fta | yes | 19:21 |
| asac | we can then decide later in cycle | 19:21 |
| asac | whether this is close enough to final and whether there are enough extensions compatible | 19:22 |
| gnomefreak | work on it for universe in next dev cycle | 19:22 |
| asac | but i would really prevent the pain we went through when releasing ffox 3 as b5 | 19:22 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think we can immediately upload it to universe once the doors open | 19:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: its firefox there are always gonna be issues for people | 19:22 |
| asac | ok so ltest carry that action forward with s/intrepid/jaunty/ | 19:22 |
| fta | asac, b1 or a snapshot ? | 19:22 |
| asac | fta: milestones | 19:22 |
| fta | ok | 19:23 |
| asac | fta: we should explicitly disable the official branding imo | 19:23 |
| fta | i ship snapshots as shiretoko now | 19:23 |
| asac | fta: even if mozilla ships them with official ... because we cannot really guarantee security support in case it doesnt go to main and thats one of the reasons | 19:23 |
| gnomefreak | replace Shiretoko with what? | 19:23 |
| asac | fta: yeah. just in case they decide to switch on official branding in b3 or something and we ship that in universe | 19:23 |
| asac | gnomefreak: the logo is ok | 19:24 |
| asac | we can just use the unofficial branding i think | 19:24 |
| asac | (e.g.the milestone branding) | 19:24 |
| asac | fta: is that ok? | 19:24 |
| asac | similar we should fix the .desktop file et al | 19:24 |
| asac | but thats clear i guess | 19:24 |
| fta | it's blue planet, not the bomb, nor the fox | 19:24 |
| asac | fta: yeah thats the "milestone branding" i think | 19:24 |
| fta | yes | 19:24 |
| asac | should be ok | 19:24 |
| gnomefreak | blue planet i thought was minefield | 19:24 |
| asac | [ACTION] fta to bring up ffox 3.1 milestones when jaunty opens | 19:25 |
| fta | ok | 19:25 |
| asac | fta: we could provide backports in -hardy-backports as well if you want. but personally i hope that we can tap MOTU community for doing those backports | 19:25 |
| fta | me too | 19:26 |
| asac | fta: we could maintain the backport branches and leave the administrative things of uploading to MOTU | 19:26 |
| asac | fta: i think you build for hardy anyway in your ppa right? so the backports are most likely available | 19:26 |
| asac | ok | 19:26 |
| asac | 5th. Write down how to get items into the monthly reports and send that to mailing list/wiki | 19:26 |
| asac | -> failed miserably | 19:26 |
| gnomefreak | once oked archive admins build and push | 19:26 |
| asac | it was me underestimating release work and pain | 19:26 |
| asac | ok i carry that action forward | 19:27 |
| asac | [ACTION] asac, to Write down how to get items into the monthly reports and send that to mailing list/wiki | 19:27 |
| asac | 6th. File a bug about removing libflashssupport from ia32-libs | 19:27 |
| asac | -> done | 19:27 |
| gnomefreak | its not removed | 19:27 |
| gnomefreak | afaik | 19:27 |
| asac | 7th. Get mozilla-devscripts in Debian | 19:28 |
| gnomefreak | maybe from ia32-* but it should be removed from archive all together | 19:28 |
| asac | -> interestingly mike from debian commented on this and said that most features are not wanted for debian | 19:28 |
| asac | i wouldnt have expected anything different, but we should maybe review how we can make it more useful | 19:28 |
| fta | asac, they said parts of it was fine, but which parts? | 19:28 |
| gnomefreak | why not? | 19:28 |
| asac | gnomefreak: its also removed completeyl | 19:28 |
| gnomefreak | ah i see | 19:29 |
| asac | i think he referred to the lp- xpi export as being useless | 19:29 |
| asac | the extension packaging xpi.mk is probably considered useful | 19:29 |
| asac | then the orig stuff might be too | 19:29 |
| gnomefreak | well since they dont use Lp i would think so | 19:29 |
| asac | but i think debian folks would like to maintain the hooks in the package rules files instead of updating mozclient for lets say iceweasel | 19:29 |
| asac | so once thats possible (??) we could suggests them to take a look | 19:30 |
| fta | it is possible now, ~ 0.11 | 19:30 |
| asac | fta: could we migrate packages to use that? i mean, shouldnt that be the default modus-of-operation? | 19:30 |
| fta | i'm already using it that way in xul-explorer and instantbird | 19:30 |
| asac | is there anthing that would hinder us to use that in firefox/xulrunner? | 19:31 |
| asac | or tbird? | 19:31 |
| fta | nothing is preventing that | 19:31 |
| asac | fta: ok lets ask different: why don't we do it? what do we win from shipping those hooks in the mozclient instead of in the packages? | 19:31 |
| asac | ( i dont suggest that we should migrate it ... just want to understand the pros and cons) | 19:32 |
| fta | just that in the past, it was not possible, now it is | 19:32 |
| fta | otherwise, it's the same | 19:32 |
| asac | fta: ok. we should look at how "comprehensive" that is usable and if we can polish the API a bit to make it more attractive for debian | 19:33 |
| asac | otherwise should be fine i think | 19:33 |
| asac | thanks | 19:33 |
| fta | it may be even better as we could have different confs for a given package, one per branch | 19:33 |
| asac | yeah. it definitly helps | 19:34 |
| asac | especially now that we do branding stuff in the orig generation | 19:34 |
| asac | e.g. otherwise we cannot easily rename the branding branch from awesome branding now in jaunty | 19:34 |
| asac | because the intrepid package needs the other ;) | 19:34 |
| asac | ok cool. then lets | 19:34 |
| fta | yes | 19:34 |
| asac | [ACTION] review packages and how we can make mozclient confs in the packaging itself | 19:35 |
| asac | ok i think thats for the review of action items ;) | 19:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: your turn :) | 19:35 |
| gnomefreak | my turn? | 19:35 |
| asac | [TOPIC] " Any ideas for Jaunty eg: Firefox-3.1 added to repos along with 3.0 | 19:35 |
| asac | 19:35 | |
| gnomefreak | sorry hitting self | 19:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ^^ | 19:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: your agenda item ;) | 19:35 |
| gnomefreak | we cant do anything with that yet | 19:35 |
| fta | i have a bunch of packages waiting | 19:36 |
| fta | fennec firefox-3.1/firefox-3.1-qt flock instantbird seamonkey-2.0 songbird thunderbird-3.0 xul-explorer xulrunner-1.9.1/xulrunner-1.9.1-qt | 19:36 |
| gnomefreak | i have extensions waiting and one to fix | 19:36 |
| asac | fta: we should really rename flock | 19:36 |
| fta | agreed, flock -> out | 19:36 |
| gnomefreak | i like flock :( | 19:36 |
| asac | i am scared by their tradmark policy | 19:36 |
| gnomefreak | flock in free | 19:36 |
| asac | can be shipped in multiverse ... if at all | 19:36 |
| gnomefreak | sortof like sunbird | 19:36 |
| asac | but usually folks dont liek to put work in multiverse work ;) | 19:37 |
| asac | ok so: | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | why cant we whip it in universe? | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | s/whip/ship | 19:37 |
| asac | gnomefreak: because trademark policy sucks | 19:37 |
| fta | i'm no longer interested to work on it either, it's not free in my own terms | 19:37 |
| asac | we have to take care that nobody touches the package except those that talk to flock devs and stuff | 19:37 |
| asac | fta: it could be ice* branded ;) | 19:38 |
| asac | (not that i am encouraging that kind of move to resolve such thins) | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | we should really use something other than ice | 19:38 |
| asac | but i expect that nobody would do that buntil its much more popular | 19:38 |
| asac | ok so mozillateam jaunty roadmap has a bunch of | 19:38 |
| asac | NEWPACKAGES: fennec firefox-3.1/-qt, instantbird, seamonkey-2.0 songbird, thunderbird-3.0 xul-explorer, xulrunner-1.9.1 | 19:39 |
| fta | asac, maybe (ice*). we could ask jcastro's help to be a mediator | 19:39 |
| asac | i also think we have to redo enigmail | 19:39 |
| asac | that will kill us at some point ;) | 19:39 |
| asac | fta: for flock? maybe | 19:39 |
| fta | yep, flock | 19:40 |
| gnomefreak | enigmail has to be fixed if we ship tbird-3.0* in any archive | 19:40 |
| asac | fta: we could ask ncommandor to maintain a ice-fork in debian for now and we sync from there ;) | 19:40 |
| asac | ice-lock ;) | 19:40 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yeah. enigmail needs to be updated | 19:40 |
| fta | not sure about songbird, there's an eula and now the license in bugzilla for patches | 19:40 |
| Volans- | Hi all, just arrived to home | 19:41 |
| gnomefreak | hi Volans- | 19:41 |
| asac | i Volans- ! | 19:41 |
| asac | fta: ok so | 19:41 |
| fta | hi Volans- | 19:41 |
| asac | [ACTION] decide on the fate of songbird in ubuntu | 19:41 |
| fta | ok | 19:41 |
| fta | they are close to 1.0 now | 19:42 |
| gnomefreak | do we really want to use ice*? | 19:42 |
| gnomefreak | i would rather ship songbird than another browser | 19:42 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats just an example. if we maintain stuff in debian through ncommander that might make sense. but if we go ubuntu alone we shouldnt use that | 19:42 |
| fta | gnomefreak, not for songbird, but for flock, maybe | 19:42 |
| asac | so anything else important in jaunty? | 19:43 |
| asac | personally i think we should aggressively forward patches | 19:43 |
| asac | and also more aggressively forward bug | 19:43 |
| asac | s | 19:43 |
| fta | to where? | 19:43 |
| asac | [reed] asked us to do that multiple times i think .... but well. | 19:43 |
| asac | fta: to bugzilla ,) | 19:44 |
| fta | to moz, i agree | 19:44 |
| fta | most of the patches pending are yours | 19:44 |
| asac | true | 19:45 |
| asac | gnomefreak: would you be willing to subscribe to the bugs that i forward and remind me to follow up there when there are questions? | 19:45 |
| asac | :) | 19:45 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i should already be subscribed arnt i? | 19:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: in bugzilla? | 19:46 |
| gnomefreak | on no im not there | 19:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: do you have an account there? | 19:46 |
| gnomefreak | asac: can you work up a list? | 19:46 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes | 19:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think you should be able to watch me there | 19:46 |
| asac | in preferences ... you could then follow conversations that i am involved in and such ;) | 19:47 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ok cool | 19:47 |
| gnomefreak | ill look | 19:47 |
| asac | [ACTION] asac to forward every patch that isnt really ubuntu specific | 19:47 |
| asac | [ACTION] asac to talk with bdmurray about forwarding ubuntu bugs again | 19:47 |
| fta | what should we do about the qt port in 3.1? | 19:48 |
| fta | i proposed something weeks ago in the wiki | 19:48 |
| asac | fta: does it work? | 19:48 |
| fta | it did, but i'm not a kde user, so i lost track | 19:49 |
| asac | fta: where is taht wiki thing? | 19:49 |
| fta | i was talking about convergence in one package | 19:49 |
| asac | Volans-: still there? next item would be about extension sync stuff ;) (just when you are about to bail out because of boredom ;)) | 19:49 |
| fta | asac, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QT | 19:49 |
| Volans- | I'm there and sorry for being inactive in the last weeks, I have started a now job and unfortunately I'm really busy | 19:50 |
| Volans- | (and in the last 2 days I'm trying to reboot my laptop after the intrepid upgrade, with the new kernel it wan't boot ;)) | 19:50 |
| asac | Volans-: no problem :) i the meeting item isjust about reviewing state ; | 19:50 |
| * gnomefreak broke all kinds of crap testing update-mamager | 19:51 | |
| gnomefreak | im not seeing a way to follow you | 19:51 |
| asac | fta: why are the icons and stuff in -gtk? | 19:51 |
| asac | don't we need a -common ... or -chrome package? | 19:51 |
| asac | and why does gtk need a filepicker, but qt not? | 19:52 |
| asac | does gtk actually need that still? | 19:52 |
| fta | maybe a bug upstream | 19:52 |
| gnomefreak | ill be back in a bit | 19:52 |
| asac | fta: ok | 19:53 |
| fta | asac, it sure needs more work. it was just a one time experiment | 19:53 |
| asac | fta: i think thats a reasonable approach. only thing i dont see is: why do we need two firefox packages? | 19:54 |
| asac | imo one should work just fine | 19:54 |
| asac | otherwise we need to file bugs upstream for sure | 19:54 |
| fta | asac, maybe.. but depends need tweaks then | 19:54 |
| asac | fta: do you have a xul branch that builds those packages somewhere? | 19:54 |
| asac | fta: thats ok | 19:54 |
| fta | i do have branches somewhere, if not on lp | 19:55 |
| asac | fta: even though it most likely would just depend on xulrunner-1.9.1 ... | 19:55 |
| fta | configure is evil and wants everything in ff, even with lib-xulsdk | 19:56 |
| asac | [ACTION] get qt/gtk split done on experimental 1.9.1 branches | 19:56 |
| asac | [ACTION] investigate how firefox can be built in gtk/qt independent fashion | 19:56 |
| asac | anything else for initial jaunty discussion? | 19:57 |
| asac | ok lets move on | 19:57 |
| fta | the <video> tag | 19:57 |
| asac | ok rewind | 19:58 |
| asac | fta: whats up with video tag=? | 19:58 |
| asac | isn't that officially supported upstrewam? if thats the case i dont see how we can not support it ;) | 19:58 |
| fta | i feel worried about even more pulseaudio troubles | 19:58 |
| fta | yes, it is on by default upstream | 19:58 |
| asac | fta: isnt pulseaudio ok as long as alsa isnt used to speak to it? | 19:58 |
| fta | for me, it comes and goes | 19:59 |
| fta | it's broken at the moment, while upstream said pulseaudio is now supported | 19:59 |
| asac | ok. anyway. i think our goal should be to have that enabled. if its possible to put that in a separate component we | 20:00 |
| asac | might be able to make a separate package out of it, which users can uninstall if they experience too much troubles | 20:00 |
| asac | ok next topic :) | 20:01 |
| asac | [TOPIC] Review of Auto Extension Scripts | 20:01 |
| asac | Volans-: ^^ :) | 20:01 |
| Volans- | asac: :) | 20:01 |
| asac | Volans-: basically why i am so happy that you are here is: | 20:01 |
| asac | you can tell us what currently works and what not ... we can then see what the next steps are | 20:01 |
| asac | whether you can do them isnt that important then i hope | 20:01 |
| asac | Volans-: could you post the links of the current scripts? | 20:01 |
| fta | a page in the wiki would be nice | 20:02 |
| asac | yeah. in worst case these meeting minutes would have the minimum | 20:02 |
| fta | i have lost track of this :( | 20:02 |
| asac | lets put the bar low for now ;) | 20:02 |
| Volans- | sure, let me find it out, I'm not on my laptop as I have say above | 20:02 |
| asac | fta: right. thats why i want to look now so we are all on top again ;) | 20:02 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you too ;) | 20:03 |
| Volans- | https://code.launchpad.net/~volans/firefox-extensions/med-auto-scripts | 20:03 |
| Volans- | here I have uploaded some scripts, but maybe in my laptop there is some more newer versione not pushed yet | 20:03 |
| asac | ok so if i remember correctly Volans- implemented a bunch of low level operations | 20:03 |
| asac | that we could orchestrate in a higher level script (like a cron script) | 20:03 |
| Volans- | exacltly asac , if you want I can explain a little them | 20:04 |
| asac | yes ... maybe lets go script by script ;) | 20:04 |
| asac | i think everything starts with mirror-xpi.sh | 20:04 |
| Volans- | sure! all of it have a comment at the begin that explain a little what are the parameter and what the script do | 20:05 |
| Volans- | the only one that is not "low level" is the master-example.sh | 20:05 |
| asac | whats that supposed to do? | 20:06 |
| Volans- | that is the script I have used to test all the other script in sequence | 20:06 |
| asac | i think nthats the only script i havent heard of before ,) | 20:06 |
| asac | ok is that the order those are supposed to run? | 20:06 |
| asac | or just some random test order? | 20:06 |
| Volans- | the logical order | 20:06 |
| Volans- | a sort of a simple higher level script | 20:06 |
| Volans- | just for testing purposes at the moment | 20:07 |
| asac | it uses a ext.list file | 20:07 |
| asac | is there an example file for that? | 20:07 |
| asac | e.g AMO_BRANCHES_FILE="ext.list" | 20:07 |
| Volans- | is explained in the initial comment: | 20:08 |
| Volans- | # The AMO_BRANCHES_FILE should contain a list of addons to be 16 | 20:08 |
| Volans- | # processed and must have this syntax: | 20:08 |
| Volans- | # BRANCH_NAME AMO_ID [SOURCE_PACKAGE_NAME] | 20:08 |
| asac | ok | 20:08 |
| asac | so i see it goes and then mirrors all xpis from the ftp i guess | 20:09 |
| Volans- | is just a list | 20:09 |
| * gnomefreak came back at wrong time | 20:09 | |
| asac | then it branches the branches and gets the rdf version | 20:09 |
| asac | from the current branch | 20:09 |
| asac | and afterthat gets a sorted list of extensions that need to be imported now | 20:09 |
| asac | right? | 20:09 |
| Volans- | right | 20:09 |
| Volans- | there was the question of how to get the rdf version | 20:10 |
| asac | ok ... from there it should be quite simple. for each version use med-xpi-unpack to unpack it in the .usptream branch | 20:10 |
| asac | and commit that | 20:10 |
| asac | with the version gathered from the unpackaged xpi using the et-install-rdf-version.sh | 20:10 |
| asac | script | 20:10 |
| Volans- | asac: for a more in-depth description see my 2 emails (Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:13 AM and Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:42 AM) | 20:12 |
| asac | Volans-: did those go to mailing list too? | 20:12 |
| gnomefreak | to/from where? | 20:12 |
| gnomefreak | i never saw them | 20:12 |
| fta | use the wiki | 20:13 |
| Volans- | no, there was directly to you because in that days I have talked to you in channell and sent to you some test results | 20:13 |
| asac | fta: well wiki alone doesnt attract attention | 20:13 |
| asac | Volans-: ah ok | 20:13 |
| Volans- | that where only preliminary in my mind :) | 20:13 |
| asac | Volans-: VERSION=`bash get-install-rdf-version.sh ${BRANCHES_DIR}/${AMO_ID}/${AMO_BRANCHES[${AMO_ID}]}.ubuntu 2>> ${LOG_FILE}` | 20:13 |
| asac | shouldnt that check the version on the .upstream branch? | 20:13 |
| asac | and not .ubuntu? | 20:13 |
| asac | i mean we only want versions that are higher than what is alread imported in .upstream i guess | 20:14 |
| Volans- | sure, was for testing purposes only because most of the extension doesn't have the .ubuntu braches | 20:14 |
| asac | Volans-: you mean .upstream branch ;) | 20:14 |
| Volans- | sorry, .upstream | 20:15 |
| asac | ok right | 20:15 |
| Volans- | but many have the .ubuntu | 20:15 |
| asac | someone should take care that we have .upstream for all extensions that use med-xpi format | 20:15 |
| Volans- | exactly! | 20:15 |
| asac | [ACTION] ensure that all extensions have upstreawm branch | 20:15 |
| asac | [ACTION] asac or Volans to finish master example script to actually import things to .upstream branches | 20:16 |
| gnomefreak | all extensions should have both anyway | 20:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yeah. but those that have med-xpi format can be supported by the auto importer for now | 20:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: so they are more important in this regards | 20:16 |
| gnomefreak | :( | 20:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: :( ? | 20:16 |
| gnomefreak | that means all but firgpg in my batch | 20:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: haha ... well. thats good | 20:17 |
| asac | everything that can be auto imported will have less work in the future | 20:17 |
| asac | ok | 20:17 |
| gnomefreak | not really since firegpg is the biggest thorjn | 20:17 |
| gnomefreak | works for me lets se how it plays out | 20:17 |
| asac | i think thats it for that topic | 20:17 |
| asac | thanks to Volans- for his work so far ;) | 20:17 |
| Volans- | I want just to explain a point in the get-new-imports.sh | 20:18 |
| gnomefreak | Volans-: thanks ;) | 20:18 |
| Volans- | for the newer version in the ftp xpi | 20:18 |
| asac | Volans-: sure. go ahead | 20:18 |
| Volans- | because there are so many versioning syntax I have tried some solution and the best and quick one that I have choosed is | 20:18 |
| asac | Volans-: couldnt we write a proper version comparison? | 20:19 |
| asac | i mean the exact implementation for the upstream version scheme? | 20:19 |
| Volans- | i mean for the extension version | 20:19 |
| Volans- | every extension use a different schema | 20:19 |
| Volans- | as I have see in the tests | 20:19 |
| asac | Volans-: well ... but the order is still defined | 20:19 |
| asac | Volans-: everything uses the mozilla versioning scheme | 20:19 |
| asac | if they dont thats a big bug | 20:20 |
| Volans- | sure, but not always numerical or alphabetical order ;9 | 20:20 |
| asac | Volans-: right. thats why i wondered if we couldnt come up with a real compare function for that | 20:20 |
| Volans- | some have changed in the time the versioning or splitted the TB and FF version or so | 20:20 |
| asac | most likely there is perl snippet somewhere or a cpp snippet ;) | 20:20 |
| asac | Volans-: ok. so what did you do about it for now? | 20:21 |
| Volans- | asac: you have talked about to use the FF versioning tool that recognize the extensions in the addon manager | 20:21 |
| Volans- | at the moment I bring the actual ubuntu .ubuntu (.upstream in future) version | 20:21 |
| Volans- | search in the mirrored fto | 20:21 |
| Volans- | *ftp | 20:21 |
| Volans- | for the same version, search for the datetime of the last modified file | 20:22 |
| asac | i really find that scary | 20:22 |
| Volans- | and compare it in the other xpi | 20:22 |
| asac | i mean when the ftp server chokes everything will fall apart | 20:22 |
| asac | e.g. if someone touches recursively or just uses cp -r next time things get reorganized | 20:22 |
| Volans- | no I search inside the XPI and not the datetime of the xpi | 20:22 |
| asac | hmm | 20:22 |
| asac | interesting approach | 20:23 |
| Volans- | LAST_MODIFIED=`zipinfo -T ${XPI_FILE} | sort -nr -k 7 | head -n 1 | sed s/' \+'/' '/g | cut -d " " -f7 | sed s/'\.'/''/` | 20:23 |
| Volans- | this is the line | 20:23 |
| asac | ok i think we can start that way for now | 20:23 |
| asac | but we should definitly try to keep this done in an abstraction layer | 20:23 |
| Volans- | line 116 of get-new-imports.sh | 20:23 |
| Volans- | sure! | 20:23 |
| asac | Volans-: e.g. we should put that code in a compare_xpi_version that spits out -1 0 1 | 20:23 |
| asac | or something | 20:23 |
| asac | is that done in a function? | 20:24 |
| asac | that should be good enough | 20:24 |
| Volans- | with my tests this approach remove some false positive that I have found with other approcheas | 20:24 |
| Volans- | but surely a real comparison function should be better ;) | 20:24 |
| asac | Volans-: hmm. i think we should really move that somehow in a more higher level function called compare_xpi_trees | 20:24 |
| asac | to allow us to change that in future wihtout much refactoring | 20:24 |
| asac | [ACTION] refactor get-new-imports to contain a better abstraction for comparing xpi tree versions | 20:25 |
| * gnomefreak goes for smoke | 20:25 | |
| asac | ok together with the other actions this should be a good next step ;) | 20:26 |
| asac | anyone still awake? | 20:26 |
| asac | fta: ? | 20:26 |
| Volans- | actual the get-new-imports search in the mirrored directory for all the xpi with a version newer than the actual ubuntu one and return the filename of the newer ones iirc | 20:26 |
| asac | ;) | 20:26 |
| fta | er.. | 20:27 |
| asac | Volans-: yeah. but if we make an abstract function compare_xpi_tree_version <xpi-tree1> <xpi-tree2> ... that should work, shhouldnt it? | 20:27 |
| Volans- | what do you mean with xpi-tree? | 20:27 |
| asac | Volans-: well either .xpi or unpackaged xpi | 20:27 |
| Volans- | ok | 20:28 |
| Volans- | atm I never extract all the xpi, I use zipgrep and zipinfo | 20:28 |
| asac | fta: we can move the last agenda item to #ubuntu-mozillatem at later time i guess ("security support for universe stuff") | 20:28 |
| fta | ok | 20:29 |
| Volans- | and check for both syntax version: <em:version>.*</em:version> AND em:version=\".*\" | 20:29 |
| asac | Volans-: well, whatever | 20:29 |
| asac | sure | 20:29 |
| asac | Volans-: but since you dont use version here, you need more than the version for that function ;) | 20:30 |
| fta | Volans-, you'd be surprised, it's often multiline, or using variables, or include files, etc.. | 20:30 |
| Volans- | multine I know when is declared also in the language blocks in the rdf files... for the inclusion, no I never see that case :) | 20:31 |
| Volans- | *multiline | 20:32 |
| fta | asac, 1h30 already | 20:32 |
| asac | yeh | 20:32 |
| asac | ok | 20:32 |
| asac | so any other business? | 20:32 |
| fta | i'm done | 20:33 |
| Volans- | not for me | 20:33 |
| asac | ok then lets finish ;) | 20:33 |
| asac | was long enough for the short agenda ;) | 20:33 |
| fta | yeah | 20:34 |
| * gnomefreak goes to figure out what is going wrong | 20:34 | |
| asac | thanks! | 20:35 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
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