[00:17] <fta> ppa builders still reject pkgs for jaunty
[00:44] <asac> Jazzva: ok :)
[00:45] <fta> asac, if you like to play with xul, xul-explorer is fun
[00:52] <fta> xul 1.9 now needs NSS_3_12_1_WITH_CKBI_1_72_RTM
[01:46] <Nafallo> fta: and held for ubuntu uploads :-P
[01:47] <asac> fta: needs or suggests? :)
[01:47] <fta> asac, bumped in clienk.mk
[01:48] <fta> Rejected: Cannot build any of the architectures requested: any
[01:50] <asac> k thats suggested then
[01:51] <fta> asac, they surely have a good reason but there was no bug linked to that commit, blame [reed] ;)
[01:55] <fta> http://tinyvid.tv/ <= does this work for anyone (ff3.1) using pulseaudio ?
[02:13] <fta> asac, seems Answer is the best karma booster
[02:13] <fta> asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/~bhavi/+karma
[02:16] <asac> fta: well. some are .. but its all cumbersome ;)
[02:16] <asac> you really have to answer a lot of questions
[02:16] <fta> seems like you get >250 points per comment
[02:18] <asac> fta: there is always a pool of points
[02:18] <asac> if nobody else does work from that pool
[02:18] <asac> you get huge amount of points ;)
[12:06] <asac> crimsun: how can we find where exactly the pulse plugin hangs on networking during shutdown?
[12:06] <asac> like in bug 274995
[12:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 274995 in network-manager "storing ALSA mixer element values during shutdown hangs nondeterministically if non-loopback network interfaces are still up" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274995
[12:16] <asac> fta_: did jdong ever talk to you for the gutsy backport?
[12:36] <cwillu> asac, lsof might be enough
[13:48] <fta_> asac, no
=== fta_ is now known as fta
[17:16] <asac> mozilla bug 441120
[17:16] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 441120 in Startup and Profile System "command-line URLs launch multi-tabs if Firefox not running, exploitable with Safari Carpet bombing" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441120
[17:23] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66315/
[17:23] <fta> hg is broken
[17:37] <asac> hmm
[17:37] <asac> fta: complain with mozilla folks
[17:38] <asac> fta: no sure if "mozilla tree has three heads" is the problem
[17:38] <asac> from #developers /topic
[17:38] <fta> this is comm-central
[17:38] <fta> sm
[17:54] <asac> @time
[17:54] <ubottu> Current time in Etc/UTC: November 02 2008, 17:54:07 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 1 day
[17:54] <asac> hmm
[17:54] <asac> i am confused ;) ... topic says 1800 and mail 1900
[17:54] <asac> for meeting
[17:54] <fta> no registered ?
[17:54] <fta> not
[17:55] <fta> The next Ubuntu Mozilla Team meeting will be tomorrow,
[17:55] <fta>     Sunday, 2nd November, 19:00 UTC
[17:55] <fta> in ~1h
[18:03] <asac> yeah
[18:03] <asac> but /topic ;)
[18:14] <fta> hm
[18:22] <gnomefreak> anyone here?
[18:23] <gnomefreak> i think im still breaking this
[18:23] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah
[18:23] <asac> all fine
[18:23] <asac> you are here ;)
[18:23] <gnomefreak> for a few
[18:24] <asac> gnomefreak: remember meeting in 40 min ;)
[18:24] <gnomefreak> ;)
[18:24] <gnomefreak> im setting up wireless on desktop
[18:24] <gnomefreak> asac: ok good i didnt miss it
[18:24] <gnomefreak> ok be back in a few
[18:53] <[reed]> @time
[18:53] <ubottu> Current time in Etc/UTC: November 02 2008, 18:53:43 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 1 day
[19:15] <gnomefreak> asac: what was old n-m not broken enough for you?
[19:15] <asac> gnomefreak: meeting ;)
[19:16] <gnomefreak> yeah i know still pissed at 0.7
[19:16] <asac> its your right to be pissed at 0.7, but you should really have been pissed before release where things were still fixable
[19:40] <Volans-> Hi all, sorry for being here only now...
[20:35] <gnomefreak> asac: why did n-m drop the scan function?
[20:35] <asac> gnomefreak: it never had a scan function?=
[20:35] <asac> whats your problem?
[20:35] <gnomefreak> yes it did. my laptop can use roam and find a connection
[20:35] <gnomefreak> 0.7 doesnt do this
[20:36] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[20:36] <asac> gnomefreak: what chipset are you using?
[20:37] <Volans-> everyone with some upgrade problem? :)
[20:37] <gnomefreak> hold that though let me check to be sure
[20:38] <gnomefreak> asac: /etc/network/interfaces == http://pastebin.mozilla.org/566783 not sure if that has wireless in it
[20:42] <gnomefreak> bcm43* if i had to guess. atleast that is driver that restricted-driver tried to install (and it installed just never got connection(
[20:45] <gnomefreak> asac: to be exact http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-435-29-dynex-80211g-wireless-g-wireless-desktop-card.aspx
[20:46] <asac> gnomefreak: try ndiswrapper
[20:46] <asac> instead of the bcm drivers
[20:46] <gnomefreak> cat install it
[20:46] <gnomefreak> cant
[20:47] <gnomefreak> asac: ndiswrapper isnt in 32bit repos? atleast it cant be found
[20:48] <Nafallo> ndisgtk - graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers)
[20:49] <gnomefreak> Nafallo: thanks
[20:50] <gnomefreak> be back have to put card back
[20:55] <asac> Volans-: what is your problem in interpid?
[20:57] <Volans-> I can't boot with the new kernel, I have encrypted root filesystem without LVM, scryptsetup ask me for the passphrase, unlock the partition but the boot scripts doesn't see it
[20:58] <Volans-> if I echo the dev/mapper the device doesn't exist but when I will drop to the busybox it exist!
[20:59] <asac> Volans-: you have a bug for that?
[20:59] <Volans-> is all the day that I'm trying changing something in the scripts and amnually regenerating the initrd image :)
[20:59] <Volans-> not yet, I have a very particular configuration and before I understad if is a general bug or related to my configuration I will wait to fill a bug in LP
[21:00] <Volans-> I have spoken a little today with siretart that is the package's maintainer
[21:00] <asac> hmm ok
[21:00] <asac> sounds like you should really upgrade earlier and report such bugs ;
[21:01] <Volans-> ehehe I use my laptop at work.. so I have choose to wait the final release and an empty weekend...
[21:02] <asac> :)
[21:02] <asac> sure
[21:02] <Volans-> but seems to be not enough at the moment ...:)
[21:02] <gnomefreak> do i choose the .exe?
[21:03] <asac> gnomefreak: nto sure ... maybe the .inf?
[21:03] <gnomefreak> it looks like it
[21:03] <gnomefreak> or not
[21:03] <gnomefreak> it says its installed already
[21:03] <gnomefreak> but its not
[21:04] <Volans-> asac: the really strange thing is that the device does not exist during boot but exist just after I went dropped to the busy box shell... and a long sleep does not help
[21:04] <asac> Volans-: well. most likely the device exists, but that error is misleading
[21:04] <asac> nad its something else
[21:05] <asac> or you use the wrong device name or something
[21:06] <Volans-> no, I have put in the script a lot of echoes for debug and when the system check the device really it does not exist yet
[21:09] <thunderstruck> using the configure network fails to find a config tool
[21:09] <thunderstruck> damnit
=== thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak
[21:14] <thunderstruck> ok how do i tell if im using wireless or not
[21:19] <Volans-> detach the cable :) well network manager should tell you
[21:19] <thunderstruck> ok ill try
[23:25] <crimsun> gah, just upgraded firefox-3.0 (3.0.4+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) and restarted upon update-notifier prompt, and my saved sessions went poof
[23:25] <fta> ?
[23:25] <crimsun> instead, I'm presented with the default start page (http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/)
[23:26] <fta> the start page is from ubufox
[23:26] <crimsun> indeed
[23:26] <fta> hm
[23:27] <fta> i didn't touch anything related to that...
[23:27] <crimsun> fta: it's not anything related to that specific version, I don't think.  I've been snagging this feature for every 3.0 version.
[23:27] <crimsun> I've just worked around it in the past by manually copying and pasting saved session's URLs from a text file in ~
[23:30] <fta> mozilla bug 389274
[23:30] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 389274 in Session Restore "[FIX]Midas demo. (designMode) fails to work properly after restoring with session restore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389274
[23:30] <fta> hm, no
[23:31] <crimsun> nope.
[23:31] <crimsun> here's my test case, which I just reproduced using a desktop cd of 8.10:
[23:31] <crimsun> 1) open multiple tabs in firefox-3.0
[23:31] <crimsun> 2) save session upon closing firefox-3.0
[23:32] <crimsun> 3) upgrade from 3.0.3 to 3.0.4
[23:32] <crimsun> err, sorry.
[23:32] <crimsun> 3) reopen firefox-3.0 to verify session is restored
[23:32] <crimsun> 4) upgrade from 3.0.3 to 3.0.4 while firefox-3.0 is still running
[23:33] <crimsun> 5) restart firefox-3.0 after the upgrade is complete and the notifier icon appears
[23:33] <crimsun> note that there is no prompt to save the session when restarting firefox-3.0 and that no tabs from saved sessions are available
[23:34] <fta> in 3.1, there's a nice feature: about:sessionrestore
[23:36] <crimsun> true, but unfortunately with firefox-3.1 (3.1~b2~hg20081031r21155+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) and xulrunner-1.9.1 (1.9.1~b2~hg20081031r21155+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta4) atm, I receive "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b2pre and 1.9.1b2pre."
[23:36] <crimsun> anyhow, need to dig into this alsa-plugins issue :/
[23:36] <fta> sudo dpkg --force-depends --purge xulrunner-1.9.1 ; sudo apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1
[23:37] <fta> my bad, i removed a conf file and it confused dpkg.. now, the workaround is to purge and reinstall
[23:38] <crimsun> fta: ah, ok, I'll try that later
[23:38] <crimsun> (thanks, btw!)
[23:43] <fta> crimsun, while you're here, i still have issues with sound in ff3.1: http://tinyvid.tv/show/e3wzq35dms5h gives me 1 or 2 seconds of sound only
[23:44] <crimsun> (queued, looking at alsa-plugins SRU)
[23:44] <fta> a few days ago, mozilla added support for pulseaudio in ff3.1
[23:44] <fta> ok
[23:46] <fta> the "upgrade while firefox is still running" is a known cause of troubles :(
[23:46] <fta> [reed], ^^