[00:04] <fatmonk> foxbuntu, fastie81: did I miss anything during the reboots? Have got a Windows IRC session running now so mythbox reboots wont affect...
[00:05] <fastie81> no foxbuntu just went for lunch... :)
[00:08] <fatmonk> fastie81: how far did you get? you seemed to a /dev/lirc1 which is further than I got.. I've still only got /dev/lircd. Have you always had lirc1 in there?
[00:08] <fastie81> no I had the lircd1
[00:09]  * foxbuntu wonders back in from pizza land
[00:09] <fastie81> welcome back
[00:10] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: 2 pairs of eyes eagerly watching for next instructions!
[00:10] <foxbuntu> well I just finished a complete reload again on my fusion case, and it with out doing anything was enabled
[00:10] <foxbuntu> try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lirc
[00:10] <fastie81> could it be something with the soundgraph version?
[00:11] <foxbuntu> fastie81, Im using the exact same case as you
[00:12] <fastie81> !pastebin
[00:12] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[00:13] <fastie81> foxbuntu: here is my output
[00:13] <fastie81> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m3a35e0d3
[00:13] <fatmonk1> faxbuntu: I've got some real oddities going on here. I just tried teh reinstall and when it tried to stop lirc it failed as though it wasn;t running... BUT as I've just rebooted my control is working in so far as the direction pad and mouse buttons and number buttons work ok. LIRC started up again after the reboot ok though...
[00:14] <foxbuntu> fastie81, pastebin this file: /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[00:17] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: output from the reinstall all looked good for me: pastebin: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d50a29e3d
[00:18] <foxbuntu> fastie81, fatmonk what about ls /dev/lirc* after the restart?
[00:19] <fastie81> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m1daedc0e
[00:19] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: still just /dev/lircd, no lirc0 or lirc1
[00:19] <fastie81> it is on the end of my first bin still just the work lircd and lircd1
[00:19] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: but can still move the mouse pointer with the remote!
[00:20] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, intresting, well your remote works then
[00:20] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, which remote are you using? the MCE that comes with the fusion?
[00:20] <fastie81> well I don't even get the mouse working
[00:20] <foxbuntu> fastie81, run this: irw
[00:21] <foxbuntu> then hit buttons on the remote
[00:21] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: Its branded Veris RM200, let me find it on the web...
[00:21] <Seeker`> is the default recording profile "autodetect from mpeg2"
[00:21] <fastie81> fastie@Palace-MediaCenter:~$ irw
[00:21] <fastie81> connect: Connection refused
[00:21] <Seeker`> fastie81: sudo irw?
[00:21] <foxbuntu> fastie81, ok, you seem to have seperate issues
[00:22] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, its the one that came with the case though right? black peanut shaped remote?
[00:22] <fastie81> still connection refused
[00:23] <foxbuntu> fastie81, well lets do this anyways, sudo nano /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[00:24] <fastie81> this is mine but not the nob on the lcd
[00:24] <fastie81> http://www.soundgraph.com/Eng_/Products/imon25.aspx
[00:24] <Seeker`> with a nova-t 500 recording on an amd2700+, 1GB RAM, is tearing when playing on a remote frontend likely to be due to a slow frontend, slow backend, slow network or bad recording?
[00:24] <fastie81> ok what do I do in there?
[00:25] <foxbuntu> add this line: include /usr/share/lirc/remote/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb
[00:25] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: came with teh case, about 8 inches long and straight with a direction pad/joystick just above half way up. If I press anything other than the direction pad, mouse left click , mouse right click or number buttons it stops working altogether.
[00:25] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, do this as well
[00:25] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, oh thats a imon pad remote
[00:26] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, add the line: include /usr/share/lirc/remotes/imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad
[00:27] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: to the hardware.conf file?
[00:27] <foxbuntu> then both of you save the file and restart lirc: sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[00:27] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, yes
[00:27] <foxbuntu> er
[00:27] <foxbuntu> no
[00:27] <foxbuntu> to the lircd.conf
[00:27] <fastie81> ok done
[00:28] <foxbuntu> then after restarting lirc run this: mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[00:28] <foxbuntu> then restart mythtv if its open on the machine
[00:28] <foxbuntu> then try your remotes
[00:29] <fastie81> ok here is my output
[00:29] <fastie81> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m164345fe
[00:30] <fatmonk1> foxuntu: already got exactly that in both /etc/lircd.conf and /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[00:30] <foxbuntu> you have a path wrong in your lircd.conf
[00:31] <foxbuntu> fastie81, /usr/share/lirc/remote/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb should be /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb
[00:32] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, try running mythbuntu-lircrc-generator then
[00:32] <fastie81> ok  it say You should now have a .lircrc file generated in /home/fastie/.lircrc
[00:32] <fastie81> All application specific lircrc files are in /home/fastie/.lirc
[00:33] <foxbuntu> ok, now continue with my directions
[00:33] <fastie81> and if I test it in mythtv it it a no go
[00:33] <foxbuntu> did you restart it before testing?
[00:33] <fastie81> yes
[00:33] <foxbuntu> ok
[00:34] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: same output as fastie...
[00:35] <foxbuntu> fastie81, Im not sure what you have done prior to me helping, it is prob worth while considering its a fresh install, to reload the machine and besure to select the Soundgraph IR/VFD during the install
[00:35] <fastie81> ok I just restared the backend and front end with no luck
[00:35] <foxbuntu> fatmonk, ok, restart mythtv and try the remote
[00:35] <fastie81> ok well I will do that now..
[00:36] <fastie81> would you be around in an hour?? then I will do it now quick
[00:36] <foxbuntu> fastie81, prob..I am pretty entrenched in my dev machine
[00:37] <fastie81> no worries.. I will see if you are around when I am back..
[00:37] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: started the frontend again (do I need to restart the backend aswell?) mouse pointer stilol moving. pressed play button and remote stopped working again.
[00:37] <foxbuntu> fatmonk1, nope, frotnend only
[00:38] <foxbuntu> fatmonk1, exit the frontend and run irw and see what happens
[00:39] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: tried /etc/init.d/lirc restart and still nothing from the remote again now...
[00:39] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: that wat my windoes session, am still here...
[00:39] <foxbuntu> fatmonk1, run: irw
[00:39] <foxbuntu> what happens?
[00:41] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: nothing being received in irw now...
[00:41] <foxbuntu> push buttons on the remote
[00:41] <foxbuntu> and nothing?
[00:41] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: nothing at all. yup push buttons and no output, just sits back at the command line.
[00:42] <foxbuntu> hmm
[00:42] <foxbuntu> ctrl+c to kill it
[00:42] <foxbuntu> dmesg | grep imon
[00:42] <foxbuntu> pastebin the output from that
[00:43] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: ah, now connection refused, but probably still running... hang on...
[00:43] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: restarted lirc then irw started without the connection error, but still nothing output on screen. when I run irw it comes right back to command line even when I am getting remote output.
[00:45] <foxbuntu> fatmonk1, ok...is your a fresh install as well?
[00:45] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d644dbb6e
[00:45] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: yup. about 3 weeks ago, so before the latest release. Its a hardy install from mythbuntu, with the weekly updates enabled...
[00:46] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: I'm going to have to give up for the night soon, I'm afraid... will have t come back to this tomorrow...
[00:46] <foxbuntu> would you be ok with a reload...I just hate chasing ghosts, I have the bad habit of changing stuff and forgeting about it too, so...
[00:47] <foxbuntu> fatmonk1, alright...well if your still around and I get better ideas I will try to catch you but right now I just dont know what is going on
[00:47] <fatmonk1> starting with hardy or teh very latest? remote has been behaving exactly the same since the fresh install though...
[00:50] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: starting with hardy or the very latest? remote has been behaving exactly the same since the fresh install though...
[00:50] <foxbuntu> fatmonk1, download the 8.04.1 disk
[00:51] <foxbuntu> or use it if you already have it
[00:51] <foxbuntu> the last full release before 8.10
[00:52] <fatmonk1> foxbuntu: That'll be the one I have... may give that a go tomorrow. Cheers for your help so far..
[01:54] <fastie81> hi guys
[01:56] <fastie81> foxbuntu: you still here?
[01:59] <fastie81> I have now reinstall mythbuntu and I have selected the soundgraph remote and it is still not working. when I do a lsusb it shows there, when I do a ls /dev/lirc* there is only lircd.
[01:59] <fastie81> still now lirc0 or something
[02:00] <fastie81> no even
[02:35] <tgm4883_laptop> Is anyone else having issues with the frontend crashing in 8.10?  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f61dff420
[03:03] <mrmowgli> Anyone know why my lircmd.conf is empty?
[03:03] <mrmowgli> isn't it supposed to have mappings to mythtv?
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> lircd.conf?
[03:04] <mrmowgli> lircd.conf points to the "right" key mappings, but I thought the lircmd.conf was supposed to map those to actual commands
[03:04] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, ^
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> i never heard of lircmd.conf
[03:05] <mrmowgli> look in /etc/lirc/
[03:05] <mrmowgli> so mythbuntu works without mapping anything in there?
[03:05] <mrmowgli> As long as my hardware.conf is correct then everything should just work?
[03:06] <mrmowgli> er
[03:06] <foxbuntu> mrmowgli, lircd.conf containes the hex to button name map, ~/.lircrc and ~/.lirc/mythtv contain the name to action map
[03:06] <mrmowgli> rather the lircd.conf
[03:06] <mrmowgli> oh ok
[03:07] <mrmowgli> Excellent, thanks!
[03:19] <mrmowgli> ah ok so to set up the new mapping for a model not in there I have to modify the mappings of the files  of ~/.lirc/
[03:20] <mrmowgli> Since my remote isn't supported, where would I submit changes for my remote? Huappage WinTv-HVR-1600
[03:21] <Ahmuck> hi
[03:21] <Ahmuck> i'd like to run mythbuntu for an ip camera.  possible?
[03:21] <mrmowgli> hi
[03:23] <mrmowgli> I would think so, thought I saw something bout that in the mythtv howto's
[03:37] <mrmowgli> foxbuntu: If I wanted to add another remote profile to the lircrc generator, how would I go about doing that?
[03:38] <foxbuntu> mrmowgli, just add an include to your lircd.conf and rerun it
[03:39] <mrmowgli> add an include in which file?
[03:39] <foxbuntu> /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[03:39] <foxbuntu> add a line like: incldue /path/to/some/file.conf
[03:39] <mrmowgli> ah, and that will generate the appropriate scripts in ~.lirc/
[03:39] <mrmowgli> ?
[03:39] <foxbuntu> indeed
[03:39] <mrmowgli> awesome
[03:40] <mrmowgli> what's location of the script generator?
[03:40] <foxbuntu> its a binary
[03:40] <foxbuntu> /usr/bin/mythbutnu-lircrc-generator
[03:41] <mrmowgli> can I run that from a shell?
[03:41] <foxbuntu> but its an installed package that I helped write and support
[03:41] <foxbuntu> yes
[03:41] <mrmowgli> excellent, thank you
[03:45] <fastie81> hi foxbuntu
[03:45] <foxbuntu> hello
[03:45] <fastie81> fresh install did not do the trick.. I still have no lirc0 dev
[03:46] <tgm4883_laptop> fastie81, did you add the stuff to hardware.conf?
[03:46] <tgm4883_laptop> or is that in MLG?
[03:46] <fastie81> add what stuff to the hardware.conf?
[03:46] <mrmowgli> fastie81: did you read this one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/lirc-gpio-alternative
[03:46] <foxbuntu> Damn I was right
[03:47] <fastie81> with?
[03:47] <foxbuntu> oops wrong window again
[03:47] <foxbuntu> lol
[03:47] <fastie81> lol
[03:47] <foxbuntu> fastie81, did you select the remote in the install?
[03:48] <fastie81> they all say that it need to point to a device /dev/lirc0 but I don't have that device!
[03:48] <fastie81> yes I did, the soundgraph ir/lcd one you said
[03:49] <foxbuntu> ok
[03:53] <foxbuntu> fastie81, im not sure
[03:53] <foxbuntu> I have had to do nothing to get that thing working
[03:54] <fastie81> I just know what it could be
[03:55] <fastie81> I know my motherboard is ne so I need the latest kernel.. that could not me something wit that??
[03:55] <fastie81> I am just stabbing in the bosh here
[04:24] <canta> which packets must i install, if i want to stream tv in my local network? the computer which is running mythtv has no monitor/mice
[05:31] <mfeinstein> I am trying to install mythbuntu and as soon as it get past the loading screen all i get is a blinking cursor. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[06:45] <wilberfan> clean-installed mythbuntu 8.10 today...testing it out...volume OSD shows volume raising and lowering but sound levels don't change...
[06:46] <wilberfan> ditto with mute...  "mute on"  "mute off"  but sound stays on...
[06:46] <wilberfan> PVR-350
[06:55] <wilberfan> .
[07:00] <wilberfan> gnite blain
[07:29] <wilberfan> Blain's back...
[07:29] <Blain> It was an accident
[07:29] <Blain> posted that link in the wrong room
[07:29] <Blain> meant to post it to my loco
[08:03] <ajhtiredwolf> hey i was hoping someone could help me with some extreme lirc lag i mythbuntu, it only happens in mythbuntu, and it doesnt happen when using the keyboard.
[09:09] <JustJim> Hi all
[09:10] <laga> hey
[09:11] <JustJim> I'd like to know where to put my tv_grab file.  The documentation I got from the provider (Ice TV in Australia) says /usr/bin
[09:11] <JustJim> but Mythtv backend setup doesn't find it there.  Any ideas?
[09:13] <laga> is it baseline compliant?
[09:13] <JustJim> The grabber?  I've had it working before but I've just done a re-install and can't remember where I ended up puting it last time!
[09:14] <laga> JustJim: mythtv 0.21 calls tv_find_grabbers which only lists baseline compliant grabbers
[09:16] <JustJim> Laga, I understood every single word in that sentence.  The whole sentence slipped over my head though.
[09:23] <laga> heh
[09:23] <laga> JustJim: there's a program called tv_find_grabbers
[09:23] <laga> mythtv uses that to find all available grabbers
[09:24] <laga> you can start it in a terminal to see what it finds
[09:24] <laga> it will only list grabbers which support a specific set of interfacesd
[09:24] <laga> interfaces*
[09:24] <laga> these interfaces are called "capabilities"
[09:25] <laga> if your tv_grab file doesn't support the --capabilities option, it's not going to work
[09:25] <laga> you can always use mythfilldatabase --file to feed it a xmltv file generated by your grabber, though
[09:25] <laga> okay, i've got to run
[09:29] <JustJim> OK mate, thanks for your time
[10:03] <oobe> laga, try linking the script to /usr/bin/tv_grab_au
[10:04] <oobe> that will most likely work
[10:23] <raptorjr> any alsa expert here today? =)
[10:39] <JustJim> oobe, I think I got it now -- XMLTV itself was not working properly.  re apt-got it and I think I'm looking OK now.
[10:40] <oobe> ok
[10:40] <oobe> i live in ausralia to and i use shepherd
[10:40] <oobe> i ln -s my shepherd script to /usr/bin/tv_grab_au
[10:48] <raptorjr> very logical, downgrade Nvidia graphics driver and get the sound back
[10:51] <laga> raptorjr: ouch
[10:54] <JustJim> I'm cool.  Associating channels to tuners now.  Should be good in time for the rugby!  Thanks all.
[10:57] <raptorjr> not the first thing you try when the sound is gone =) but atleast i got my sound back
[10:57] <laga> raptorjr: is that reproducable?
[10:58] <raptorjr> i could try, see what happends
[10:59] <raptorjr> but that was why the livecd probaly worked, didnt use the restricted drivers
[11:00] <laga> yeah, although it'd be really weird
[11:02]  * JustJim waves goodbye
[11:12] <raptorjr> yep, Nvidia version 177 no sound, version 173 i got sound
[11:13] <laga> odd.
[11:24] <mrmowgli> raptorjr: What model is your nvidia card?
[12:01] <raptorjr> I have a Abit N73HD with onboard graphics, think it is the Nforce630i chipset with a Gforce7100
[12:09] <mrmowgli> I wonder if it's because it's an onboard chipset
[12:09] <mrmowgli> It's new enough you shouldn't be running into issues like that
[12:21] <raptorjr> no it is strange, but i dont have enough knowledge to try to find the exact problem
[13:43] <joemythtv> I have an ivtv issue with my pvr-150 noting having stereo, exactly the same issue as here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/37436    How did he resolve it?
[14:08] <Keithamus> just did a fresh install of 8.10, configured it and now I cant watch livetv; here is my mythfrontend.log: http://pastebin.ca/1243178
[14:08] <Keithamus> none of my tables are broken, permissions to livetv folder are fine
[14:18] <Keithamus> anyone got any idea?
[14:20] <Keithamus> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fd4e3f63 here are my full logs using the mythbuntu log grabber
[14:21] <KjetilK> Keithamus: I don't know, but I would investigate the line where SIP says it fails
[14:21] <Keithamus> wheres that?
[14:21] <KjetilK> not that I know what SIP, but that's the one thing that looked suspecious to me :-)
[14:21] <KjetilK> line 25-265
[14:21] <KjetilK> err, 25-26
[14:22] <KjetilK> in the mythfrontend log you posted
[14:22] <KjetilK> also, do hang around, it can often take a long time to get a response
[14:22] <Keithamus> ah, thats just because I havent set up the mythphone plugin
[14:22] <KjetilK> oh, ok, that's the SIP
[14:22] <KjetilK> then dunno :-/
[14:23] <Keithamus> its the bit below that
[14:23] <Keithamus> 33 and 34
[14:24] <KjetilK> yeah, that's not quite sufficient to understand whats wrong...
[14:24] <Keithamus> yeah i know, annoying right?
[14:24] <KjetilK> yeah...
[14:26] <Keithamus> some people are saying its a problem with my listings, but they all work fine
[14:26] <Keithamus> well, bar a few channels
[14:26] <KjetilK> I had a problem getting listings for a long time, but it never caused any problems actually watching livetv
[14:28] <Keithamus> ditto
[14:28] <Keithamus> i had this working for months before - on hardy
[14:28] <Keithamus> thought id upgrade to intrepid, do a fresh install
[14:28] <KjetilK> :-(
[14:28] <Keithamus> learnt my lesson
[14:29] <KjetilK> I figured I would keep my box on hardy, since that's a LTS
[14:29] <Keithamus> i shouldve done that
[14:29] <Keithamus> but i was having troubles with my ati card, thought upgrading would fix it
[14:29] <Keithamus> and it did.... just cant use it now!
[14:29] <KjetilK> I feel Ubuntu doesn't do as much QA as Debian, but it is slightly easier to set up, so it is tradeoff between convenience and stability
[14:30] <Keithamus> it works well, on a really plain setup
[14:30] <Keithamus> as soon as you do anything fruity, you start to get issues
[14:31]  * KjetilK nods
[14:31] <Keithamus> one really irritating bug i had with installing 8.10
[14:31] <Keithamus> I set /var/lib to sda3 (like it was before)
[14:31] <Keithamus> had all my recordings on it
[14:31] <Keithamus> made sure NOT to tick format
[14:32] <Keithamus> but it still formatted
[14:32] <KjetilK> oh, crap
[14:32] <Keithamus> because its a system directory or something - it wipes it, disregarding my 300gb of hd videos and music and every recording i had ever recorded
[14:35] <Keithamus> awesome, just fixed it! Just deleted all my channels and rescanned, and now its working
[14:38] <KjetilK> heh, good
[14:38]  * KjetilK runs off
[14:42] <Keithamus> lol
[15:55] <Decepticon> i have a pvr150, dmesg detects it properly afaik, but "cat /dev/video0 > video.mpg" gives a video.mpg that is 0 kb in size, even after tuning to a known channel with "ptune --input /dev/video0 --channel 5 --freqtable ntsc-cable". as a result i keep getting timeout scanning for channels in mythtv-setup. please advise
[15:56] <noii> i've been using mythtv on ubuntu for a little while. I added mythbuntu, and managed to end up starting up a slightly different version of the front end, and now my OK and back buttons don't work on my remote - I'm guessing there is another lircrc that is being read before the one I set up myself? any ideas where that might be?
[15:56] <rhpot1991> noii: odds are you just need to modify the buttons in ~/.lirc/mythtv
[15:57] <rhpot1991> also, make a backup of whatever your final changes are, incase they get overwritten by an upgrade
[15:58] <noii> rhpot1991: thanks, I'll take a look
[16:29] <noii> so, I've got a ~/.lircrc with the button mappings I'm expecting to work and ~/.mythtv/lircrc linked to that. I don't have ~/.lirc/mythtv . seems like a bit of a mess - I think i will backup what I have and then try to start over.
[16:55] <vn> hey hey, thumbs up for mythbuntu, just tried it, just what I needed, works nicely...
[16:55] <foxbuntu> vn, thanks, always good to hear from happy users
[16:57] <vn> :]
[16:57] <vn> uh..no Ibex tab in the wiki yet?
[16:58] <vn> I'm just looking for what's the mythweb url
[17:06] <foxbuntu> https://your-backend/mythweb
[17:15]  * rhpot1991 is silly and clicks on foxbuntu's link
[17:24] <toorima> oh default https on mythweb in 8.10? cool
[17:25] <darkwizard> anyone use shoutcast?
[17:30] <foxbuntu> toorima, actually its not https its http...I am just crazy
[17:34] <toorima> oh ok
[17:34] <toorima> was hoping it was a new feature
[17:35] <wilberfan> Installed Intrepid and layed myth on top yesterday...    PVR-350 with remote...   Volume levels & mute aren't working properly...
[17:35] <wilberfan> OSD shows volume going up and down (or mute on or off) but actual levels not changing...
[17:35] <wilberfan> toorima, wouldn't that be nice?!  ;)
[17:36] <toorima> wilberfan: do you use ac3 passtrough?
[17:36] <toorima> yeah
[17:36] <wilberfan> not even sure what that is...
[17:36] <toorima> ok sending raw ac3 sound to a amp
[17:36] <toorima> an amp
[17:36] <wilberfan> no...
[17:37] <wilberfan> I can change the levels via the volume applet...
[17:42] <wilberfan> Volume situation was fine under Hardy.   Installed intrepid on same hardware, different partition
[17:54] <wilberfan> Zinn, sup, buddy...?
[17:55] <wilberfan> !help
[17:55] <Zinn> Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[18:06] <vn> what would be the best way for me to setup my video directory, since they're span over many shares?
[18:13] <NicEXE> I tried to install MythTV today but the installation was unsuccessful. (the installation was staying in the same point even if I was clicking next: "chose a new password for mysql server") The problem is that me and the rest world can no longer view my website because of a database error: "Database Error: Unable to connect to the database: "Could not connect to MySQL" How can I go back? I have a backup of all my website files and all my web server
[18:13] <NicEXE> files. Help please
[18:15] <laga> also, please don't cross post
[18:37] <MythbuntuGuest07> Hi THere
[18:37] <MythbuntuGuest07> need help booting from CD
[18:38] <MythbuntuGuest07> got a 7600GT and a graphic Bug when loading Mythbuntu
[18:41] <superm1> try safe graphics mode
[18:41] <MythbuntuGuest07> how can i select it?
[18:42] <MythbuntuGuest07> tried F6
[18:42] <superm1> its one of the FN keys on the menu
[18:42] <MythbuntuGuest07> FN?
[18:42] <superm1> like you were looking at
[18:42] <superm1> F6 F5 F4
[18:42] <superm1> i forget which has it
[18:43] <MythbuntuGuest07> ah now its there
[18:43] <MythbuntuGuest07> just didnt found it
[18:43] <MythbuntuGuest07> thank you :D
[18:43] <darkwizard> anyone here
[18:43] <MythbuntuGuest07> y
[18:43] <darkwizard> this what my problem is
[18:43] <darkwizard> i have 8.04
[18:43] <superm1> !hi | darkwizard
[18:43] <Zinn> darkwizard: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[18:43] <darkwizard> and update mythtv to 20.2
[18:44] <superm1> 8.04 comes with 0.21
[18:44] <darkwizard> now i video freezes when i bring up the guide
[18:44] <superm1> you mean you upgraded it to 0.22?
[18:44] <darkwizard> 21.2
[18:45] <laga> there's no such thing.
[18:45] <superm1> huh?
[18:45] <darkwizard> something .2
[18:45] <superm1> there is a 0.20.2, but it's an older release than is in 8.04
[18:46] <darkwizard> it is myth version 0.20.20080304-1 18207
[18:47] <darkwizard> and using nvidia 173.14.12
[18:48] <MythbuntuGuest79> hi again
[18:48] <laga> darkwizard: you didn't get that from our repositories on 8.04, so it's not supported, sorry.
[18:48] <MythbuntuGuest79> the one with the graphic problem on 7600gt
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest79> now im in safe graphic mode but the problem still appears
[18:49] <superm1> well what's the graphic bug?
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest79> not seeing anything
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest79> my english isnt that good
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest79> i try to explain
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest79> the mouse is there four times
[18:49] <darkwizard> laga i did threw synaptic
[18:50] <MythbuntuGuest79> and so on
[18:50] <MythbuntuGuest79> everything is displayed wrong
[18:51] <laga> threw synaptic?
[18:53] <superm1> darkwizard, it sounds like you have a third party repository enabled.  You might consider pastebin'ing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:53] <superm1> !pastebin | darkwizard
[18:53] <Zinn> darkwizard: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[18:53] <NicEXE> what should I do to restore my website?
[18:53] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest79, 4 mice?  can you take a screen shot or digital camera shot?
[18:53] <MythbuntuGuest79> y
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest79> i see 4 mice
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest79> but there is just one iknow :D
[18:54] <superm1> so we can see what you mean, and possibly get the content into a bug
[18:54] <superm1> so that it can get fixed
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest79> i take a photo
[18:55] <MythbuntuGuest79> mom
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest79> perhaps i can try to activate the graphic driver while i am in live mode
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest79> but then i need the command for this
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest79> my linux knowledge isnt that good
[18:58] <superm1> its not possible to activate a proprietary driver in live mode at this point unfortunately
[18:58] <MythbuntuGuest79> mmhhh
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest79> what about installing in Text mode?
[19:00] <MythbuntuGuest79> rebooting and then installing the driver?
[19:00] <darkwizard> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m23a6eb8
[19:01] <superm1> darkwizard, it looks like you have intrepid sources in that list.  you sure you were installing 8.04?
[19:01] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest79, all depends on how bad this problem is.  sure you can install in text mode
[19:01] <darkwizard> yes
[19:01] <darkwizard> i updated to 8.10
[19:02] <superm1> darkwizard, ah okay.  can you run "apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend" then?
[19:02] <darkwizard> no it won't boot
[19:02] <darkwizard> it won't startx
[19:02] <superm1> i thought the issue was freezing when going into the guide?
[19:02] <superm1> which one is it
[19:03] <darkwizard> i fixed startx but now it wacked
[19:03] <darkwizard> so i have to do that
[19:03] <darkwizard> and that will fix it
[19:04] <darkwizard> okay that ran
[19:04] <darkwizard> now u want me to paste it at pastebin
[19:04] <superm1> yeah
[19:06] <darkwizard> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d1e0b20c3
[19:06] <superm1> so you're not actually on the current intrepid packages
[19:06] <superm1> i would recommend running your updates and letting them catch up
[19:06] <darkwizard> okay
[19:07] <MythbuntuGuest79> so here is my Screenshot with a cam http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg6327yy8.jpg
[19:07] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest79, okay so that looks like a couple of possibilities that could have caused it.
[19:07] <darkwizard> is 8.10 any better
[19:07] <superm1> do you have a different monitor you can install with?
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest79> yeah
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest79> a TV
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest79> and another monitor
[19:08] <superm1> i would recommend trying another one.  it looks like the hsync and vrefresh might not be getting detected correctly
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest79> actually ive got a 19"
[19:09] <wilberfan> morning, superm1
[19:09] <superm1> good $time_o_day wilberfan
[19:09] <MythbuntuGuest79> okay trying it with the 17"
[19:09] <MythbuntuGuest79> thabk you
[19:09] <wilberfan> i'm having a volume problem:  OSD shows volume raising and lowering...  but actual levels not changing...
[19:09] <UsrCletus> Hey guys what's up? I am interested in installing mythbuntu on an older pc I have, and just bought a tv tuner card yesterday... I have digital cable, and i would like to be able to decode the QAM signal in order to bypass my box... (Basically I am paying for one box and the extra channels, but I would like avoid the fee for a second box) I know i could split the output from the box, but I would like to avoid that as well... anyone know of a
[19:09] <UsrCletus> It's an older tv tuner card
[19:10] <wilberfan> mute shows "on" & "off" but audio doesn't go on & off...
[19:10] <superm1> wilberfan, open up alsamixer side by side and see if the mixer is changing, and if it's the right mixer changing
[19:10] <wilberfan> superm1, levels WILL change if I use volume applet...
[19:10] <wilberfan> (via mouse, etc)
[19:10] <superm1> wilberfan, yeah i'm just suspecting myth is mapping to the wrong mixer
[19:11] <wilberfan> same hardware as hardy install.  installed intrepid on sep partition...
[19:11] <superm1> UsrCletus, QAM is generally encrypted for most non-local (eg avail OTA) stations
[19:11] <UsrCletus> superm1: i realize, but am wondering if there is a software that will decrypt those signals...
[19:11] <superm1> UsrCletus, if there was, it wouldn't be up for discussion in this room
[19:11] <superm1> UsrCletus, but afaik there isn't anyhow
[19:11] <wilberfan> alsamixer shows "card" as "PulseAudio"...?
[19:12] <UsrCletus> so that I can essential descramble the channels i am already paying for and avoid a second box? it's perfectly legal
[19:12] <UsrCletus> i'm not trying to steal cable
[19:12] <UsrCletus> i already pay
[19:12] <UsrCletus> why no discussion?
[19:12] <superm1> wilberfan, oh yuck, pulseaudio :(
[19:12] <superm1> UsrCletus, it's just one of those gray areas in legality
[19:12] <wilberfan> superm1, that doesn't sound right to me, either...
[19:12] <wilberfan> can't i change that config somewhere?
[19:12] <superm1> wilberfan, i didn't realize you had gnome up and runnning here with pulseaudio and all
[19:12] <UsrCletus> i don't want to get kicked, just don't fully understand... you know of any channels that might offer support in this area?
[19:13] <superm1> UsrCletus, sorry most of the mythtv community strays away from this discussion so I can't really point you anywhere useful
[19:13] <superm1> wilberfan, well so a few possible solutions; you can go into mythtv
[19:13] <UsrCletus> superm1: thanks
[19:14] <superm1> s frontend setup and change the device to *not* be alsa:default or alsa:pulse
[19:14] <superm1> but rather something more useful.
[19:14] <wilberfan> like...?
[19:14] <superm1> or remove pulseaudio from your install
[19:14] <superm1> like.. hum
[19:14] <wilberfan> "apt-get remove pulseaudio"?
[19:14] <superm1> i'm not sure
[19:14] <superm1> yeah that would do the trick
[19:14] <wilberfan> :)
[19:15] <wilberfan> what IS PulseAudio?
[19:16] <wilberfan> oh crap...   it's removing ubuntu-desktop!   Is that right??
[19:16] <MythbuntuGuest79> THe SOundserver
[19:16] <superm1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio
[19:16] <wilberfan> do i have to restore ubuntu-desktop?
[19:16] <superm1> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package, so that should be okay to do.
[19:16] <wilberfan> { whew }
[19:17] <superm1> just when you upgrade to say 9.04, you might need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and reperform these tasks
[19:17] <wilberfan> i almost NEVER upgrade...  always a clean-install?
[19:17] <superm1> well then that should be a moot point for you
[19:17] <wilberfan> okay...pulse is adios
[19:17] <wilberfan> do i have to restart something...?
[19:17] <superm1> killall pulseaudio
[19:18] <superm1> and then you're set
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest79> ah now its working
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest79> it was the monitor
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest79> thank you very much :D
[19:18] <wilberfan> superm1, alsamixer looks better already:  "Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx"
[19:18] <wilberfan> :)
[19:19] <wilberfan> where's that remote...let me test this out...
[19:19] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest79, glad to hear.  you might have more luck with that monitor post install when you install the driver for the graphics card
[19:20] <wilberfan> superm1, no sound at all now...and no OSD either...
[19:20] <wilberfan> :(
[19:20] <superm1> wilberfan, did you restart mythfrontend too?
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest79> i think so too
[19:20] <superm1> probably forgot to mention that part
[19:20] <wilberfan> i just thought of that...no....
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest79> thank you again
[19:20] <wilberfan> brb
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest79> by :D
[19:22] <wilberfan> superm1, awwwwwwwesooooooome, duuuuuuuude....
[19:22] <wilberfan> :D
[19:23] <wilberfan> is "Internal" still the "prefered" playback method...?
[19:23] <superm1> that's personal preference
[19:24] <wilberfan> superm1, does each do something better than the others?  (and worse)?
[19:25] <wilberfan> and does anyone happen to know what the vlc command line options should be (there's about 420 of them!)
[19:27] <superm1> wilberfan, try setting the VLC options in the GUI instead.  it will save them as defaults
[19:27] <superm1> wilberfan, it's a mattter of whether you have an external means to control volume or not (eg external amp).  it sounds like you dont
[19:28] <wilberfan> no, i don't...  just out of the soundcard, into an old boombox near the tv
[19:28] <wilberfan> :)
[19:29] <wilberfan> superm1, so if i install vlc, set the options in the gui, then do i just enter "vlc" in the proper frontend config screen?
[19:31] <superm1> yeah more or less
[19:32] <halfb8ked> having problems with the mythbuntu live cd. boots fine, but when i choose "mythbuntu live environment" i eventually just see a "not supported mode" bluescreen. can anyone help?
[19:32] <wilberfan> lol   it's the "more" and "less" part that always ends up screwing me!
[19:32] <superm1> halfb8ked, try safe graphics mode
[19:32] <superm1> it's one of the F* key menus at the bottom
[19:34] <halfb8ked> hm
[19:34] <halfb8ked> those appear past the bottom of my screen
[19:34] <wilberfan> does anyone here prefer something other than the Internal player? (curious)
[19:34] <laga> xine for dvds
[19:34] <halfb8ked> ok, found it, f4
[19:35] <wilberfan> laga, interesting.  i've never tried a DVD via myth..
[19:36] <wilberfan> someone last week recommended xine to avoid sound-sync problems...but then superm1 reminded me about the sound-sync option in Internal...
[19:36] <wilberfan> i liked xine...but my .avi's all started with the volume at zero...  (kind of a PIA)
[19:37] <superm1> remember pulseaudio was here then
[19:37] <superm1> and it kills kittens
[19:37] <tgm4883_laptop> and drinks their bloodd
[19:37] <wilberfan> lol
[19:37] <wilberfan> "here"?   where...?
[19:37] <wilberfan> gosh, do i have pulseaudio on my hardy myth install??
[19:38] <wilberfan> is pulse bundled with gnome, or....?
[19:38] <superm1> came with gnome, but i don't know if you had it on hardy
[19:39] <wilberfan> is there a way to tell without booting into hardy?
[19:39] <wilberfan> (i've got that partition mounted)
[19:39] <wilberfan> (wonder what kitten blood tastes like, anyway...?)
[19:40] <tgm4883_laptop> ubuntu hardy shipped with pulseaudio, not sure about mythbuntu 8.04 though
[19:40] <superm1> mythbuntu did not
[19:40] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop, well, i've typically installed ubuntu, then added myth on top...
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> my guess is that you have it then
[19:41] <wilberfan> if i do a "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (for whatever reason) will pulse get put back on my intrepid install?
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> AFAIK, yes
[19:44] <wilberfan> just found this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6078392
[19:46] <wilberfan> better check and see if i can log back in...!
[19:46] <wilberfan> brb
[19:48] <wilberfan> :)
[19:49] <superm1> that's a good alternative recommended there though too
[19:49] <superm1> pasuspend nameofyourapp
[19:49] <superm1> as a wrapper
[19:49] <wilberfan> you mean an alternative to uninstalling pulseaudio?
[19:49] <superm1> yeah
[19:50] <superm1> if you run into other problems with it gone
[19:50] <wilberfan> gleep
[19:51] <wilberfan> better save that url
[19:57] <jpolonsk> can anyone help me with the config for lirc?
[19:59] <halfb8ked> ok, even the mythbuntu live environment using safe graphics mode is still too big for my screen?
[20:00] <tgm4883_laptop> halfb8ked, yea thats a given being that safe graphics mode boots in like 800x600
[20:00] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, whats up my brother!
[20:01] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: hola!  just rebooting my colo machine.  :)
[20:02] <jpolonsk> I've got 2 ir recievers and I'm not sure if I can set it up to recognize both
[20:05] <halfb8ked> is there a way to run from the live cd and test whether it will work with my tv?
[20:07] <MythbuntuGuest88> hello?
[20:07] <laga> !hi | MythbuntuGuest88
[20:07] <Zinn> MythbuntuGuest88: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[20:08] <MythbuntuGuest88> Hello, I'm a noob linux user and have and installed mythbuntu ... i'm looking for a cheap video card to send video to the tv (not HD) ... on a PIII 733mhz machine ... any suggestions?
[20:09] <MythbuntuGuest88> input would be nice too but beggars can't be choosers :-)
[20:12] <halfb8ked> i'm running on a mac mini output to a samsung t3093wh 1080i crt
[20:12] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest88, something like a pvr-150 would work well
[20:13] <tgm4883_laptop> might have to grab one off ebay though
[20:14] <MythbuntuGuest88> right on - thanks - i'm gonna check out the specs now
[20:15] <laga> MythbuntuGuest88: that's a *capture card*
[20:17] <MythbuntuGuest88> capture ... meaning it records, does it output?
[20:18] <vn-> hi, I'm on my mythbuntu machine and uh...I just tried to start amovie file thats on a network share, and all I see is the theme background...what can I do?
[20:18] <tgm4883_laptop> bah
[20:18]  * tgm4883_laptop fails to read
[20:23] <MythbuntuGuest88> so looking at this card ... i don't see an output? ...:
[20:23] <MythbuntuGuest88> http://reviews.cnet.com/tv-tuner-adapters/hauppauge-wintv-pvr-150mce/4507-9332_7-31575004.html?tag=mncol;psum
[20:24] <MythbuntuGuest88> i just noticed i don't meet the requirements anywho ... so back to the drawing board - still looking for a video out card for linux for a PIII 733mhz ... any other suggestiongs?
[20:34] <halfb8ked> trying to start mythbuntu livecd frontend. when i click start session, i get a blue menu with language options, but i cant see any buttons to click to move forward
[20:49] <darkwizard> now it is 8.10
[20:50] <darkwizard> now it a really bad freeze
[22:44] <fastie82> hi foxbuntu can you tell me your lsusb output for your remote on your box please.. cause I may have find why mine did not work..
[22:45] <fastie82> and yours did
[22:45] <foxbuntu> fastie82, sorry not near my dev center atm
[22:45] <fastie82> o ok..
[22:46] <fastie82> well I think it was cause you have the old vertion of the soundgraph remote
[22:46] <fastie82> and I got the new one.
[22:46] <fastie82> and on the lirc version that is installed on 8.10 does not support this..
[22:47] <fastie82> I had to apply a patch and now I have the lirc0 and 1 devices
[22:47] <foxbuntu> fastie82, not sure how that could be, I bought that case < 1 week ago
[22:47] <foxbuntu> fastie82, well glad you got it working
[22:47] <fastie82> I will right a page some where when I get to test it at home tonight
[22:48] <fastie82> but I am one step closer I think
[22:48] <fastie82> well I don;t know, something wiht if you got 0038 you got the new one.. that is mine..
[22:49] <fastie82> the old on has ffcd as device
[22:50] <fastie82> but I am so happy that I got them there now.. I can't wait to go home to see if it works.. been a hard few days... lol...
[22:51] <fastie82> cause as I could see that is the only thing that I should have cause every one and everything point to a lirc0 device
[22:59] <darkwizard> well for some reason i rebooted my pc now it says running in low graphic mode
[22:59] <darkwizard> anyone tell me why
[23:32] <kanoth> Hi I am having issues with not being able to setup a mySQL connection
[23:42] <kanoth> !help
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[23:51] <darkwizard> how can i downgrade from 8.10
[23:53] <foxbuntu> darkwizard, downgrade?
[23:54] <foxbuntu> you would have revert to a previous kernel
[23:54] <darkwizard> yes
[23:54] <foxbuntu> which unless you rolled up from one you cant do without reinstalling
[23:55] <darkwizard> well i did
[23:55] <darkwizard> from 8.04 to 8.10
[23:55] <darkwizard> now my system is wacked
[23:55] <foxbuntu> then you can hit esc on boot select an older kernel make sure it works then edit your grub menu to make it default if it does
[23:56] <darkwizard> well i did it says no nvidia card installed
[23:57] <foxbuntu> you will need to reload the nvidia drivers for the kernel because they get built for the kernel
[23:57] <darkwizard> okay well i gota figure out how now
[23:57] <foxbuntu> darkwizard, what do you mena your system is "wacked"
[23:58] <darkwizard> when running 8.10
[23:58] <darkwizard> it don't see my dvb
[23:58] <darkwizard> on 8.04 works fine
[23:58] <foxbuntu> which dvb?
[23:58] <darkwizard> i mean kenernal 2.6.24.19
[23:58] <darkwizard> twinhan
[23:58] <foxbuntu> have you tried compiling the latest v4l-dvb drivers?
[23:58] <darkwizard> not on this
[23:59] <darkwizard> no clue how
[23:59] <darkwizard> if i do it wrong it will really wack it