[09:56] <pcb-dennis> hi, i am sure this is often asked but i could not find an answer on the website. Does the mid-image run on the eeepc 4G and does it make sense to use it there? or should i install the 386-ubuntu
[13:12] <ido-> orga around ?
[13:12] <ido-> any other Q1u users
[14:39] <lool> Someone ever heard of unetbootin?
[14:39] <lool> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:39] <lool> ogra: ^
[14:40] <ogra> isnt that the guy who constantly mails u-d-d about his new releases ? 
[14:40] <lool> erf no idea
[14:40] <lool> First time I read about it
[14:40] <ogra> ah, no
[14:40] <ogra> i mixed that up with the tool that installs from a http'ed iso
[14:47] <ido-> hey orga
[14:47] <cgregan> ﻿brianchidester: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[14:50] <cgregan> njpatel: I would like to introduce ﻿brianchidester. He will be helping me out with the UNR release testing this cycle. You will start seeing bugs from him shortly.
[14:51] <ian_brasil> lool..you read this http://andreeleidenfrost.blogspot.com/2008/11/eeepc-901-with-ubuntu-intrepid-ibex.html on planet debian too huh :) 
[14:52] <njpatel> cgregan: thanks! brianchidester: Hi, I'm the one who's going to be fixing most of the UNR launcher/panel/window-manager bugs :-)
[15:04] <lool> ogra: Hmm my clock says 3pm UTC; where's Jono?
[15:05] <lool> ian_brasil: Eh yeah
[15:29] <brianchidester> njpatel: so it will be my job to make you earn your pay?
[15:29] <crevette> lool, seems uber cool
[15:29] <njpatel> brianchidester: heh, something like that :-)
[15:36] <lool> brianchidester: or vice-versa
[15:48] <KarlsBerg> Hello, someone testing with Aspire One ?
[15:53] <ian_brasil> KarlsBerg: I have an Aspire One
[16:46] <KarlsBerg87> aha ian_brasil write you in query
[16:50] <ido-> hey orga, here ?
[16:55] <KarlsBerg87> ian_brasil,  ?
[16:55] <KarlsBerg87> hello?
[17:11] <LanceHaig> Hi How do I know if ubuntu can run on my Dell AXIM X30?
[17:12] <ogra> you boot from the usb key and run the live session ? 
[17:12] <LanceHaig> right 
[17:12] <ogra> would be the safest way imho
[17:13] <LanceHaig> I can't find a link on the wiki
[17:13] <ogra> to what ? 
[17:13] <ogra> the image ? 
[17:14] <LanceHaig> to how rto accomplish that
[17:14] <LanceHaig> but I will keep looking
[17:14] <ogra> see /topic ;)
[17:14] <ogra> the download page has instructions to get the image in a usb key ...
[17:14] <ogra> *on
[17:15] <LanceHaig> there is no link to the download page in the FAQ
[17:15] <LanceHaig> but I think I found it
[17:15] <LanceHaig> Thanks
[17:16] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img
[17:16] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[17:17] <LanceHaig> ogra: thanks mate
[17:21] <ido-> orga , does hibernate/suspend work well on your Q1u ?
[17:21] <ogra> yes
[17:21] <ido-> because it doesn't on mine.
[17:22] <ogra> how do you suspend ? 
[17:22] <ido-> hiberante doesnt work at all iirc, and suspend does work, but when it wakes up there's no network interfaces
[17:22] <ogra> and did you pick a big enough swap partition for hibernate ? 
[17:23] <ido-> it never asked me to. where do i pick it ?
[17:23] <ogra> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:23] <ogra> see "Wireless doesn't work after suspend with ath_pci driver"
[17:23] <ogra> there is a wrokaround
[17:24] <ogra> it should have set up a swap partition during partitioning while installing
[17:25] <ido-> well i dont know if it did
[17:25] <ogra> use the "free" command
[17:25] <crevette> hello
[17:25] <ogra> it should show you if there is a swap partition in use
[17:26] <ido-> no swap parition
[17:26] <ido-> would a swap file help ?
[17:26] <ogra> not for hibernate afaik ... but my info might be outdated
[17:27] <ido-> hrm. what do i search to find out ?
[17:27] <ogra> well, just create one and try out
[17:27] <ido-> my touch screen works now btw, so that should be fixed in ubuntu..
[17:28] <ogra> did the .fdi change i suggested help ? 
[17:28] <ogra> or did you have to do more ? 
[17:28] <ido-> no, i dont think that did it
[17:28] <ido-> but it might have to do with it
[17:29] <ogra> well, what exactly did you do to make it work apart from the .fdi change ? 
[17:29] <ido-> i blacklisted the usbtouchscreen module 
[17:29] <ogra> i cant add a fix if i dont know what else was involved 
[17:29] <ogra> hrm
[17:29] <ido-> and i added a rule with /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[17:29] <ido-> i think i left the fdi thingy too, so it might have helped
[17:29] <ogra> thats dead technology that was just ripped out :/
[17:30] <ido-> though so
[17:30] <ido-> so i'll remove it
[17:30] <ido-> and restart
[17:30] <ido-> and see if it still works
[17:30] <ogra> that would be good
[17:30] <ido-> and if it does, then its the blacklist + fdi probably
[17:30] <ogra> well, usbtouchscreen should be what handles it on kernel level
[17:31] <ido-> seems that it interferes..
[17:31] <ido-> because blacklisting it helped
[17:32] <ido-> is there a different module ?
[17:32] <ogra> weird
[17:32] <ido-> rebooting..
[17:32] <ogra> usbtouchscreen is a merge of the touchkitusb, itmtouch and mtouchusb drivers
[17:33] <ogra> since you have a touchkit it should be the right driver for it
[17:33] <ogra> and it definately is on my Q1U
[17:33] <ido-> true
[17:33] <ido-> lemme see which module is loaded
[17:36] <ido-> ok
[17:36] <ido-> i'm not sure which one it is
[17:37] <ido-> http://pastebin.ca/1244144
[17:40] <ido-> orga ?
[18:02]  * ogra will hold a talk about ubuntu-umpc in #ubuntu-classroom now
[18:21] <ido_> hrm.
[18:51] <Whatsinaname> Hello,  I used winimage to put image on flash drive, but it wont boot to it.  Am I missing something?  I really want to try UMPC version on my acer apire one.
[18:53] <Whatsinaname> its the ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img
[18:54] <Whatsinaname> is anyone here?
[18:55] <ian_brasil> Whatsinaname: you need the umpc image
[18:56] <Whatsinaname> Oh.
[18:56] <ian_brasil> not the lpia one
[18:56] <ian_brasil> i am running umpc on an aspire one
[18:57] <ido_> יר
[18:57] <ido_> hr
[18:57] <Whatsinaname> Ok searching for it now.  But should the lpia one have booted?  
[18:57] <Whatsinaname> Just got AAO yesterday.  lovin it now.
[19:01] <Whatsinaname> Just not sure if using winimage I have to do anything different to make it a bootable usb.
[19:04] <ogra> Whatsinaname, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[19:06] <Whatsinaname> thanks orga,  I have seen that and am now downloading proper image.  but I am on a windows machine currently and was wondering if I have to do something special to get it to boot from the usb. (other than just puting image on usb drive with winimage.)
[19:07] <Whatsinaname> It will be interesting to contrast/compare this verses the netbook remix.  playing with new toys is fun. :)
[19:07] <ogra> there are soe tools for win ... rawwrite should work or there is also DD for windows i heard
[19:13] <ido_> there is dd for windows
[19:20] <Whatsinaname> hmm now to just figure out dd lol
[19:23] <ogra> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
[19:23] <ido_> dd for windows ?
[19:24] <ogra> dd if=c:\temp\<your downloaded image>.img of=\\.\<device letter of your usb key>: bs=1024
[19:31] <Whatsinaname> hehe I am so noob, cant get dd to be recognized
[19:34]  * ogra goes afk
[19:39] <Whatsinaname> I get error opening output file: 2 the system cannot find teh file specified
[19:42] <ian_brasil> Whatsinaname: supply the complete path?
[19:50] <rrittenhouse> I'm looking into these "Netbooks" in hopes of getting one for xmas from the wife. I am looking at the Acer Aspire AOA150 and the EEEPC 1000. Which would be a good choice? I'm looking to put "Ubuntu Mobile" on whichever one I get.
[19:52] <rrittenhouse> This may not be the perfect room to ask this in but I thought I would give it a shot for some opinions.
[19:52] <ian_brasil> i have put ubuntu mobile on both.. x11perf test results showed the 512 atom on the acer aspire outperformed the 1GB celeron eeepc...however both rock IMO
[19:53] <rrittenhouse> The Acer aspire has a slightly smaller screen but I think I could handle that for it being cheaper....
[19:59] <rrittenhouse> ian_brasil, So If I buy the Windows version at staples I should be OK?
[20:00] <ian_brasil> well there are lots of reports of the lower cost linux varieties being out of stock so people get XP versions and put ubuntu on them
[20:00] <ido_> hey
[20:00] <ian_brasil> particularly in australia it seems
[20:16] <bicyclist> On the topic of netbooks i myself own an eeepc 900a and use ubuntu eee on it .
[20:17] <bicyclist> Most watching me work with it are very impresse on what is possible.
[20:20] <ido_> hey orga..
[20:21] <ido_> I have a few inputs on umpc edition