[00:00] well my general point is that you will prob have just as many issues rolling back to 8.04 as fixing 8.10 at this point [00:00] i might have to reload it [00:02] thats your progative [00:04] well never gona take another update ever [00:05] heh [00:08] it always goes wrong [00:10] darkwizard, yeah...that will solve it [00:11] darkwizard, perhaps dont act without knowing what you are doing... use google/forums/irc before doing [00:13] lol maybe [00:13] darkwizard, or learn after breaking rather than giving up [00:14] i am not giving up [00:14] just reloading it [00:14] Hey, I have a network device that mounted for mythtv, but for some reason it causes it to hang when rebooting, if i do /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop. and then reboot, it works fine so I am trying to add the command /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop to when the computer shuts down, i tried adding it to a scrtipt in /etc/rc0.d but for some reason it is executing [00:14] i don't have time to freaking around with it [00:15] Iti sn't executing * I mean [00:16] ajhtiredwolf, what kind of network device [00:16] ? [00:48] anyone running mythbuntu on 8.10 yet? [00:52] what is new in 8.10 for mythbuntu [00:53] i donno... it's my first crack at mythtv. can't get the mysql part working [00:53] CptFuzzy: how is it not working? [00:54] failure to connect. [00:55] fresh install - it made some weird password, but it's not connecting in the mythtv setup screen [00:56] !mysql% | CptFuzzy [00:56] CptFuzzy: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [00:56] thx... i'll try it [00:59] ... for some reason, it did not install the backend at all. weird. [01:10] i installed the mythbuntu packages in my kubuntu system a long time ago. now when i upgrade everything, mythtv makes unwanted config changes. currently, my gdm splash screen shows mythtv, automatically logs into the mythtv user session, and when i kill that it wants to re-login as mythtv after 30 seconds at the gdm screen. how can i fix this now and forever? [01:14] mythbuntu-control-centre will help with the auto-login [01:17] mythtv user session? remove ubuntu-mythtv-frontend [01:17] if you've got it installed. it can wreck havock [01:18] If you're using kubuntu why not KDM out of curiosity? [01:19] i dont remember. i switched from kdm to gdm years ago for some reason related to sessions [01:20] * sparr wonders if 12 years counts as decades... 1.2 is plural [01:23] superm1: isnt that the gui frontend? [01:23] sparr, no [01:23] it's an old package that doesn't do good things on mythbuntu boxes [01:23] its good for putting together your own system without mythbuntu packages, but that's about it [01:24] in control centre, trying to add the "kubuntu desktop" role [01:24] it tells me i have adept/synaptic/apt/something running [01:24] but i dont [think i do] [01:27] ahh, had a broken dpkg run from my upgrade [01:27] back to that, i guess [02:02] so I upgraded my Mythbuntu box to Intrepid, and now the update-notifier applet doesn't run, so I can't easily tell when there are updates. If I try to run it manually, it tells me "not starting for system user". [02:03] of course, the "mythtv" user that it's logged in as is a system user. what's the point of that though? [02:03] (the point of making that not run for system users) [02:04] if you made it to a GUI desktop, you must be capable of running it I would think [02:04] that's probably more a question for upstream Ubuntu devs I suppose [02:09] ah, found it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/286037 [02:10] looks like someone's workaround for another bug they didn't feel like fixing [02:13] maybe this thing shouldn't really be running as 'mythtv'... I've been running it since Edgy, has that changed in the default install since then? :) [02:15] can you elaborate on what a "system user" is? [02:17] userid less than 500 [02:17] reserved for system use. [02:17] and I just looked at the installation manual, and it actually has in italics boldfaced "please don't use the userid 'mythtv'" now. :) [02:17] so I guess that's an artifact of this thing being upgraded over an over from an ancient system :) [02:19] Hey, I have a network device that mounted for mythtv, but for some reason it causes it to hang when rebooting, if i do /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop. and then reboot, it works fine so I am trying to add the command /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop to when the computer shuts down, i tried adding it to a scrtipt in /etc/rc0.d but for some reason it is executing [02:21] is it chodded executable? [02:21] er, chmodded even [02:22] you put the INIT INFO comments at the top of the file? [02:23] so it knows what it has to run before, what has to run before it? [02:24] and rather than stoping Network Manager, might it be safer to unmount the fileshare in question? [02:46] justdave, [02:46] justdave, well i was going to unmount it, but the problem seems to only go away when i type that commadnd [02:47] the initscript that you write needs to be in /etc/init.d/ [02:47] and you include in the comments at the top which runlevels to run it in [02:47] then use the update-rc.d command on it to insert it into the startup/shutdown sequence [02:48] justdave, yeah I put it in /etc/init.d/ and then linked to it in /etc/rc0.d [02:48] which both drops those symlinks into the appropriate rc.x directories and updates an xml database somewhere where upstart keeps track of startup/shutdown dependencies [02:48] just [02:48] justdave, let me show you the script [02:50] justdave, http://www.pastebin.ca/1243691 [02:50] dvr migration complete..... aaahhhhhhhh [02:52] justdave, does that look appropriate to you? [03:21] hello all [03:23] i'm looking for a suggestion for a video device (card?) to install in my PIII 733mhz machine to get the video signal from my computer to my TV (analog, low-def) ... any sugestions? [03:23] afk... [03:34] any wintv pvr card MythbuntuGuest01 [03:35] ooops you meant out, not in.... [03:39] Hey, I have a network device that mounted for mythtv, but for some reason it causes it to hang when rebooting, if i do /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop. and then reboot, it works fine so I am trying to add the command /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop to when the computer shuts down, i tried adding it to a scrtipt in /etc/rc0.d but for some reason it is executing [03:41] my main concern is for out (but i'll take in too if i can get it - if not ... out ifs fine) suggestions? [03:43] ajhtiredwolf: you left before I got back to answer your question about the pastebin earlier... no, that script is missing all the INIT INFO stuff that upstart needs [03:43] justdave, sorry, this is the first one ive really written myself, what should i put in i t? [03:43] take a look at the other scripts in init.d, you need the section from BEGIN INIT INFO to END INIT INFO, and update the information accordingly [03:44] Ubuntu doesn't just blindly run all the symlinks in the rc.X directory in order anymore like older linuxes, it has a smart boot script that runs things in parallel if possible [03:45] it uses those comments at the top to decide what things have to run before or after it [03:45] justdave, hmmm k, im looking for one that has INIT info [03:46] but even without that, it may do the right thing if you use the update-init.rd script to add it to the boot/shutdown process [03:46] you might be able to supply it the necessary info on the command line with that [03:47] er, update-rc.d actually [03:47] justdave, well how about that http://www.pastebin.ca/1243726 would that work? [03:47] I think upstart keeps a database somewhere, and the update-rc.d will update that database in addition to setting the symlinks [03:48] don't know about the required and should stuff... [03:48] justdave, was just something in a different script [03:49] the Required-Start stuff is things that need to run before that can during startup, Required-Stop is stuff that needs to run before that can during shutdown [03:49] ajhtiredwolf, im just trying to make this run first [03:49] justdave, im just trying to make this run first [03:49] justdave, before anything else does [03:49] justdave, on shut down [03:49] clear all those lines out then [03:50] Default-Start and Default-Stop are what runlevels to run it in start mode and stop mode [03:50] should i keep those ones? [03:50] the required and should lines are optional from what I can tell [03:51] alright so all i need is default start and sotp? [03:52] yeah [03:53] does it need the #!/bin/sh [03:53] # [03:53] # rc.local too? [03:53] the #!/bin/sh yes, the rest no [03:53] justdave, alright heres what it looks like http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php [03:54] justdave, woops here http://www.pastebin.ca/1243730 [03:55] update-rc.d yourscriptname defaults [03:55] (run that, replace yourscriptname with the filename of the script you wrote (just the name, not the path) [03:55] assumes the script is located in /etc/init.d/ [04:05] sorry [04:05] net crashed [04:06] justdave, so anyway, alright i did that, do i need to do anything else to it? [04:08] justdave, hmm when i ran that command it got mad, complained that it was missing required stop [04:09] ah, look at the other init scripts... they have function calls for start, stop, restart, etc in them [04:10] case "$1" in start) [04:10] etc [04:10] should be a newline before start there [04:11] what would i put under required start and stop though? they dont require anything, just leave it blank? [04:12] I'm probably not the best person to talk to, I've never actually messed with initscripts on Ubuntu before (just on rhel :) [04:12] hmmm [04:12] alright [04:12] the start/stop/restart stuff is the same, but Ubuntu does a lot of it quite differently [04:13] justdave do you know how to mount a network device? [04:13] I would put your network manager stop thing inside either start) or stop) depending on how you set it up for the runlevels [04:13] mount devicename:/path/to/mount /path/to/mount/at [04:13] justdave, i mean actuall i know how to do it, i just need it to mount after the network starts [04:14] put it in /etc/fstab if you want it to happen automatically at boot [04:15] justdave, I want it to happen at boot. BUT I need it to happen after the network starts, right now it freezes for a while because it cant mount it, then after a long time it skips it and starts up [04:15] yet... it has been mounted once i login though [04:15] what's it have for the fstype in fstab? [04:15] is it nfs? [04:15] usually if it knows the type is nfs it'll wait till the network is up before it tries [04:16] justdave, not cifs [04:16] hmm, ought to do the same for that, in theory [04:16] that's why it does "mounting local filesystems" and not "mounting filesystems" at the early part of boot. :) [04:16] well let me see if this script worked [04:16] brb need to reboot [04:20] justdave, alright cool looks like that worked for the shut down [04:20] justdave, now just gotta get the start up [04:27] hi [04:29] I was wondering if somebody could point me to a link: "recommended hardware for ubuntu-mythtv" or something like that? or is there a company that build "ready" to use boxes, or sells kits? [04:29] thanks in advance [04:29] I'll stick around [04:40] hi [04:40] would it be possible to install GPROFTPD in MythBuntu? [05:08] konung: putting "recommended hardware for ubuntu-mythtv" into Google provides some links that look pretty relevant [05:09] personally, I've found that Mac Minis make pretty decent standalone front ends (wipe OS X off and put Mythbuntu on them) [05:09] konung, I am a core dev on the mythbuntu team and also the owner of www.foxmediasystems.com, I am working on developing ready to use Mythbuntu systems [05:10] my backend is a full-on HTPC unit, which I bought pre-built with MythTV already installed on it, but the company I got it from has since gone out of business. [05:10] Mainly use Intel based hardware myself. [05:10] justdave: ahh, the sensible thing to do :-) I'll check that out - thanks [05:10] hads, in testing, intel seems to be my winner for MythTV as well [05:10] Mac Minis are Intel-based [05:11] (in case you were implying that they weren't - but maybe I'm just reading too much into what you said. :) [05:11] and yeah, I'd have to agree. Better codec support and so forth for intel stuff [05:12] My comment was unrelated to yours [05:12] trying to find modern codecs for PPC is hard. :) [05:12] well..just have to move over to Gentoo rather than Ubuntu for better PPC support [05:13] (I have a PPC laptop I'm using as a front end on one TV until I come up with enough money to buy another mini to replace it) [05:13] oh, video drivers is the other thing. [05:14] as usually is with everything [05:14] that laptop has no working video drivers that'll drive the S-video output on it in Linux [05:14] and there's no decent remote-control support on OS X without spending a ton of money on it [05:14] (the little white Apple Remotes are almost useless with Myth ;) [05:15] so guys you don't recommend AMD [05:15] ? [05:15] no [05:15] as is I would use it [05:15] I do use it [05:15] so I had a choice of running it in Linux with no video, or running it in OS X with no remote [05:15] so it runs in OS X and the "remote" is a bluetooth keyboard [05:16] konung, Intel generally is more expenisive but if that doesnt bother you its a better choice, but not to say AMD is bad [05:17] so anyone know how to debug usplash? [05:17] the splash screen goes away within seconds after the grub menu clears and the entire boot process goes in text mode [05:18] ok guys thanks [05:18] I want my pretty Mythbuntu splash screen. :) [05:18] justdave, I built that USplash [05:18] I get it during shutdown fine, but not during startup [05:18] checking out - will check out those links [05:19] thanks [05:19] justdave, thats usually a sign you have something going on at boot up that it wants you to see thus killing the splash [05:19] This machine started life on Edgy, and has been upgraded every OS version [05:19] justdave: bug 205990 [05:19] Bug 205990 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "[hardy] splash screen disappears after a few seconds" [Medium, Triaged] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/205990 [05:19] had this problem for a couple revs, so it's not new, I'm just now getting around to trying to deal with it finally. :) [05:25] aha [05:25] my resume uuid indeed does not match that of the swap partition [05:26] * justdave fixes that and rebuilds the initramfs [05:27] rebooting... [05:27] success, I have a splash screen with a progress meter. :) Thanks hads [05:28] np [05:31] hads, as usual the human bug indexer [05:31] ;) [06:15] cna anyone help me install on 8.10 === jake_ is now known as epidemik === clever is now known as clev === rhpot1992 is now known as rhpot1991 === tgm4883_laptop_ is now known as tgm4883_laptop === vn0 is now known as vn [16:22] when I install an ap it does not always appear in the menu afterwards. even after restarting X. why is that? [16:45] CRXLPY not all aps have menu entries [16:47] seems like I have a nack of picking ones that dont [16:48] but it is a small thing jphillip, I have other issues to fix [16:48] thanks for the reply [16:51] CRXLPY you can just add items yourself === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [16:52] CRXLPY, which app? [16:53] most recently gtkdiskfree [16:53] idk about that app sory [16:53] should I have chosen kdiskfree instead? [16:53] * tgm4883_laptop shrugs [16:53] I use df -h [16:53] ;) [16:54] I figured since xfce is gtk I would go gtk when I could [16:54] well if it had a menu entry, then it should add it [16:54] but i dont know if it does [16:54] ok, no big deal, just curious [16:56] I want to install mythtv to a single PC (with Ubuntu 8.10 installation) (I already have a MySQL server) [16:56] which files do I need? [16:57] NicEXE, well the frontend, backend, and database packages I suppose [16:57] tgm4883_laptop my mobo swap went well for the most part. (at least I dont know what is broken by it yet LOL) [16:58] CRXLPY, thats good. Mine is going less than stellar ;) [16:58] I moved my backend which went fine, but I ordered a case from newegg with a bum power supply [16:59] I was surprised I moved from AthXP to Ath64 (NForce2 to NForce3Ultra) [16:59] morning boys! (& girls) [17:00] tgm4883_laptop why didnt your order one with a good psu? :P [17:00] what case tgm4883_laptop? [17:00] CRXLPY, forgot to check that on the order form ;) [17:00] antec fusion black [17:01] is there a way to set up more than one, erm, profile on the front end? one would use "Internal", another would use "xine", another "mplayer", etc...? [17:01] tgm4883_laptop thats why it was on "sale" [17:01] jphillip, I guess so ;) [17:01] ran for about 2 days [17:02] did you forget to feed the gerbels? [17:02] which was just enough time to move my backend and get the remote and LCD working [17:02] CRXLPY, no, I kept shoving handfuls of food in there and it just stopped ;) [17:03] Hello everyone, long time Mythbuntu user, first time chatter [17:03] lol [17:03] the new PETA-ium cpu [17:03] [rimshot] [17:03] thank you, thank you [17:03] I was thinking today how cool it would be if mythbuntu had a twitter account we could follow [17:03] greetings neoneddy [17:04] neoneddy, thats pretty freedom hating no? [17:04] we do have an identi.ca account though [17:04] not that it gets used that often [17:04] ah yes, indenti.ca [17:04] most of the devs dont' know what to write [17:04] I need to get on that [17:04] so what do you want to see in that feed? [17:04] you kids and your interweb sites [17:05] well like when the new 8.10 was relaeased.. I follow it closely, but maybe other cool updates "hey remotes work better now" etc [17:05] actually, it sounds liek remotes will work better in this new release yes? [17:06] I add stuff to it when I push new releases to mythbuntu-testing [17:20] there has to be a way to sync the identi.ca and twitter right? [17:20] i thought I heard there was, it's a one way sync though twitter > identi.ca [17:21] stink ... oh well [17:21] well that would just mean we would post to the twitter acct [17:21] i'll look into it [17:22] ok, I have poked around enough I feel justified to ask help. I recorded a movie immediately after I swapped the mobo. all seemed fine. I set the cutlist around commercials and transcoded. but now if I try to put it in an ISO to burn it fails. whether I re-encode or not it fails... getting dvr online, will post a pastebin in a sec [17:26] Question: I have 2 drives in my mythbuntu box, an IDE and a sata, the IDE is the boot drive, but it keeps switching to the sata for boot, like when my wife reboots it. [17:26] http://pastebin.com/fafc6a02 [17:27] also, anyone here use the antec fusion case? with the nice VFD ? [17:27] neoneddy, sorry, mine has the LCD [17:29] is yours the black one or the silver one? [17:29] black [17:29] mine too, maybe I mean the lcd then :-) [17:29] could be [17:29] I've had a heck of a time getting it to work right [17:29] have you had any luck? [17:29] yep [17:29] other than my power supply dying [17:30] when I look in mytharchive/temp/logs/mythburn.log I see this... [17:30] if you don't mind me asking, what did you do to get it working?... I'm using the Phillips Microsoft MCE remote with the USB receiver [17:30] http://pastebin.com/f4e22bcdf [17:30] neoneddy, are you using 8.04 or 8.10? [17:31] 8.04 [17:31] thats perfect [17:31] the guide I followed was for 8.04 [17:31] I haven't rewritten it for 8.10 yet though [17:31] why would changing mobos cause a perm issue? [17:31] let me grab the link for you [17:31] member:crxdvr have to deleted your ICE file? in your home folder?.. let me look it up [17:32] cool [17:33] crxdvr try this http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=610856&page=2 [17:33] I had to add a line in the startup script to kill that file for my mythburn to work right [17:33] .ICEauthority I think it is [17:34] neoneddy, start at post 12, then follow the instructions. It should work. http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=d3f7c9e7cd0e4eff5dddd6473dd55b86&t=907256&page=2 [17:34] I never had a problem before the swap (I did not reinstall, just swapped mobo, same drives and everything else) [17:34] can I keep my MCE IR receiver? [17:37] I recently unplugged my Imon LCD because I think it kept switching from lirc0 to lirc1 every time it rebooted, and then the remote would quit working, would this solution mean not using the MCE IR receiver ? [17:38] I was hoping to keep that because it has 2 "blaster" ports to control other devices [17:38] well since according to that thread, ice has something to do with kde apps (and I use kvirc) I will exit here and delete it [17:38] neoneddy, yea I don't know yet ;) [17:38] neoneddy: your mce remote should work with the imon internal receiver [17:38] i'm working on that too, but I need a new PS first [17:39] u need a ps NOT a pos [17:39] I plan on rebuilding the box soon with 2 sata drives, I like the antec case, but why only 2 drive bays, seriously [17:39] !twitter [17:39] http://twitter.com/mythbuntu [17:40] !identi.ca [17:40] http://identi.ca/mythbuntu [17:40] * neoneddy following mythbuntu now [17:41] neoneddy as it turns out. that file is not present. so it cant be the .ICEauthority issue [17:42] !microblog [17:42] We have accounts on both twitter and identi.ca which are kept in sync. You can subscribe to either one and get all updates. identi.ca at http://identi.ca/mythbuntu twitter at http://twitter.com/mythbuntu [17:42] crxlpy , hmm, that fixed it for me, oh well [17:42] I think you had a different issue [17:43] probably... anyone have that issue where the dvd's won't play on some PC's or other players? [17:43] due to old dvd drives yeah [17:44] or cheap media [17:44] unless you are burning to non-standard specs [17:44] as an experiment I once took the ISO that mythburn made, and burned that on my mac, and got the same goofy disc [17:45] my only work around was to load the burned disc into the mythbuntu box then use SSHFS and pull the data off the disc and reburn on OSX [17:45] the dvdrom in my dvr wont even read factory dl, much less dvd-r [17:49] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=840998 this was the issue I had [17:49] welll actualllyyyyy looking again (with both eyes) I saw a ICE file, rm'ed it. now trying to make the iso again [17:50] off to get lunch.. let me know how that turns out [17:50] odd that a MB change would cause it IMO [17:50] but I successfully made a test iso with a short recording made b4 the mobo swap so I dont know if this will end differently or not [17:52] the 3 permission denied errors at the end of mythburn.log make me wonder...... [18:40] When I get "permission denied" I usually have my wife try [18:49] huh? [18:49] nevermind.. married joke [18:49] thought so [18:49] there is an XKCD about it someplace [18:51] more married humor? [18:52] "make me a sandwich", "sudo make me a sandwich"? [18:52] yeah that one [18:56] neoneddy success! iso created. I guess something did not shutdown/startup properly when I swapped mobos yesterday and left some ICE on the floor [18:57] YES!.. I came in here for some help and ended up helping someone else [19:06] karma works like that [19:08] now I am burning it and will see how it works on my player [20:09] hey everyone ... looking for an video output option from computer to TV (low-def) on a PIII 7333mhz machine ... any suggestions? [20:09] afk [20:15] MythbuntuGuest65 Nvidia card running XvMC should do pretty well for you, do you have a capture card already? [20:55] good evening everyone from Scotland [20:57] I'm running Hardy 64-bit, Medibuntu, Mythbuntu -fixes, backports, updates, security and up-to-date [20:57] and DVDs do not play [20:57] even ripped ISOs [20:58] or DVDs I could play a few weeks ago [20:58] 2008-11-03 20:51:10.261 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/videos/RETURN_KING_EXT_D1.iso [20:58] 2008-11-03 20:51:10.261 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec [20:59] please point at my stupidity, laugh, then tell me where I did wrong [20:59] camelreef: maybe your missing libdvdcss or something [20:59] question: why doesn't mythbunutu jsut come with al lthat stuff pre-installed ready to go? [20:59] questionable legality [21:00] it's easy to activate in mcc, but it cant be turned on by default [21:01] rhpot1991_laptop, libdvdcss2 is there [21:01] keys are there [21:01] same for libdvdnav and libdvdread [21:02] camelreef: stupid question, have you tried rebooting? [21:03] fair enough [21:04] rhpot1991_laptop, rebooting? Am I runnning Windows? [21:04] I guess I could, but really? [21:05] I'll try, though, but really? [21:06] Yeah, shouldn't really be nessecary [21:17] i'm excited to say i can get the database running in my machine ... this whole project seems over my head as i don't have any linux experience [21:19] rhpot1991_laptop, a reboot did it, I'm stunned [21:20] I wish I had restarted the front or backend first [21:20] no reason for a kernel reload [21:20] anyway, if this happens again, that's what I'll do [21:21] and I'll report back [21:21] thanks for the time [21:21] camelreef: well keep an eye on it I guess, if it happens again we can try to find something [21:21] sure thing [21:21] bbfn [21:24] rhpot1991_laptop: Fair enough [21:29] hads: I'm assuming it was some hung process, easier to just reboot than sit here all day trying to figure out which one [21:29] if he comes back again then we can dig deeper [22:35] i still can't seem to get a fresh install of ubuntu + mythubuntu to work: mysql login problem. i tried the dpkg reconfig thing [22:36] 8.1 [22:37] it's almost like it's not creating the mythtv mysql user or something [22:38] are you using the alternate disk? [22:38] ubuntu-desktop first, then apt install mythbuntu-desktop [23:03] hi does one know whether mythbuntu is able to play m2ts files within a folder like VIDEO_TS ? [23:05] m2ts is that a blue ray rip? [23:05] yes [23:06] this seems to be the only way to play blu rays with linux as far as I know [23:06] Yeah, i don't think you can...There is a wiki that give some info on it.. do a search for blue ray mythtv.. [23:07] do a search doom9 blueray linux [23:08] thx Ill have a look [23:08] :) [23:15] looks nice, it seems all I need is mplayer and a special codecs [23:18] codec not codecs btw.: there seems to be a folder like HVDVD_TS (similar to VIDEO_TS) and mplayer is already implemented into mythtv, so it should be able to make mplayer handle it like the blu ray disc it is (with menus subtitles ...)