[00:00] <foxbuntu> well my general point is that you will prob have just as many issues rolling back to 8.04 as fixing 8.10 at this point
[00:00] <darkwizard>  i might have to reload it
[00:02] <foxbuntu> thats your progative
[00:04] <darkwizard> well never gona take another update ever
[00:05] <hads> heh
[00:08] <darkwizard> it always goes wrong
[00:10] <foxbuntu> darkwizard, yeah...that will solve it
[00:11] <foxbuntu> darkwizard, perhaps dont act without knowing what you are doing... use google/forums/irc before doing
[00:13] <darkwizard> lol maybe
[00:13] <foxbuntu> darkwizard, or learn after breaking rather than giving up
[00:14] <darkwizard> i am not giving up
[00:14] <darkwizard> just reloading it
[00:14] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, I have a network device that mounted for mythtv, but for some reason it causes it to hang when rebooting, if i do /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop. and then reboot, it works fine so I am trying to add the command /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop to when the computer shuts down, i tried adding it to a scrtipt in /etc/rc0.d but for some reason it is executing
[00:14] <darkwizard> i don't have time to freaking around with it
[00:15] <ajhtiredwolf> Iti sn't executing * I mean
[00:16] <foxbuntu> ajhtiredwolf, what kind of network device
[00:16] <foxbuntu> ?
[00:48] <CptFuzzy> anyone running mythbuntu on 8.10 yet?
[00:52] <Spirits-Sight> what is new in 8.10 for mythbuntu
[00:53] <CptFuzzy> i donno... it's my first crack at mythtv.  can't get the mysql part working
[00:53] <rhpot1991> CptFuzzy: how is it not working?
[00:54] <CptFuzzy> failure to connect.
[00:55] <CptFuzzy> fresh install - it made some weird password, but it's not connecting in the mythtv setup screen
[00:56] <rhpot1991> !mysql% | CptFuzzy
[00:56] <Zinn> CptFuzzy: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[00:56] <CptFuzzy> thx... i'll try it
[00:59] <CptFuzzy> ... for some reason, it did not install the backend at all.  weird.
[01:10] <sparr> i installed the mythbuntu packages in my kubuntu system a long time ago.  now when i upgrade everything, mythtv makes unwanted config changes.  currently, my gdm splash screen shows mythtv, automatically logs into the mythtv user session, and when i kill that it wants to re-login as mythtv after 30 seconds at the gdm screen.  how can i fix this now and forever?
[01:14] <hads> mythbuntu-control-centre will help with the auto-login
[01:17] <superm1> mythtv user session?  remove ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
[01:17] <superm1> if you've got it installed.  it can wreck havock
[01:18] <hads> If you're using kubuntu why not KDM out of curiosity?
[01:19] <sparr> i dont remember.  i switched from kdm to gdm years ago for some reason related to sessions
[01:20]  * sparr wonders if 12 years counts as decades... 1.2 is plural
[01:23] <sparr> superm1: isnt that the gui frontend?
[01:23] <superm1> sparr, no
[01:23] <superm1> it's an old package that doesn't do good things on mythbuntu boxes
[01:23] <superm1> its good for putting together your own system without mythbuntu packages, but that's about it
[01:24] <sparr> in control centre, trying to add the "kubuntu desktop" role
[01:24] <sparr> it tells me i have adept/synaptic/apt/something running
[01:24] <sparr> but i dont [think i do]
[01:27] <sparr> ahh, had a broken dpkg run from my upgrade
[01:27] <sparr> back to that, i guess
[02:02] <justdave> so I upgraded my Mythbuntu box to Intrepid, and now the update-notifier applet doesn't run, so I can't easily tell when there are updates.  If I try to run it manually, it tells me "not starting for system user".
[02:03] <justdave> of course, the "mythtv" user that it's logged in as is a system user.  what's the point of that though?
[02:03] <justdave> (the point of making that not run for system users)
[02:04] <justdave> if you made it to a GUI desktop, you must be capable of running it I would think
[02:04] <justdave> that's probably more a question for upstream Ubuntu devs I suppose
[02:09] <justdave> ah, found it.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/286037
[02:10] <justdave> looks like someone's workaround for another bug they didn't feel like fixing
[02:13] <justdave> maybe this thing shouldn't really be running as 'mythtv'...   I've been running it since Edgy, has that changed in the default install since then? :)
[02:15] <sparr> can you elaborate on what a "system user" is?
[02:17] <justdave> userid less than 500
[02:17] <justdave> reserved for system use.
[02:17] <justdave> and I just looked at the installation manual, and it actually has in italics boldfaced "please don't use the userid 'mythtv'" now. :)
[02:17] <justdave> so I guess that's an artifact of this thing being upgraded over an over from an ancient system :)
[02:19] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, I have a network device that mounted for mythtv, but for some reason it causes it to hang when rebooting, if i do /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop. and then reboot, it works fine so I am trying to add the command /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop to when the computer shuts down, i tried adding it to a scrtipt in /etc/rc0.d but for some reason it is executing
[02:21] <justdave> is it chodded executable?
[02:21] <justdave> er, chmodded even
[02:22] <justdave> you put the INIT INFO comments at the top of the file?
[02:23] <justdave> so it knows what it has to run before, what has to run before it?
[02:24] <justdave> and rather than stoping Network Manager, might it be safer to unmount the fileshare in question?
[02:46] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave,
[02:46] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, well i was going to unmount it, but the problem seems to only go away when i type that commadnd
[02:47] <justdave> the initscript that you write needs to be in /etc/init.d/
[02:47] <justdave> and you include in the comments at the top which runlevels to run it in
[02:47] <justdave> then use the update-rc.d command on it to insert it into the startup/shutdown sequence
[02:48] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, yeah I put it in /etc/init.d/ and then linked to it in /etc/rc0.d
[02:48] <justdave> which both drops those symlinks into the appropriate rc.x directories and updates an xml database somewhere where upstart keeps track of startup/shutdown dependencies
[02:48] <ajhtiredwolf> just
[02:48] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, let me show you the script
[02:50] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, http://www.pastebin.ca/1243691
[02:50] <CRXLPY> dvr migration complete..... aaahhhhhhhh
[02:52] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, does that look appropriate to you?
[03:21] <MythbuntuGuest01> hello all
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest01> i'm looking for a suggestion for a video device (card?) to install in my PIII 733mhz machine to get the video signal from my computer to my TV (analog, low-def) ... any sugestions?
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest01> afk...
[03:34] <CRXLPY> any wintv pvr card MythbuntuGuest01
[03:35] <CRXLPY> ooops you meant out, not in....
[03:39] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, I have a network device that mounted for mythtv, but for some reason it causes it to hang when rebooting, if i do /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop. and then reboot, it works fine so I am trying to add the command /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop to when the computer shuts down, i tried adding it to a scrtipt in /etc/rc0.d but for some reason it is executing
[03:41] <MythbuntuGuest01> my main concern is for out (but i'll take in too if i can get it - if not ... out ifs fine)  suggestions?
[03:43] <justdave> ajhtiredwolf: you left before I got back to answer your question about the pastebin earlier...  no, that script is missing all the INIT INFO stuff that upstart needs
[03:43] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, sorry, this is the first one ive really written myself, what should i put in i t?
[03:43] <justdave> take a look at the other scripts in init.d, you need the section from BEGIN INIT INFO to END INIT INFO, and update the information accordingly
[03:44] <justdave> Ubuntu doesn't just blindly run all the symlinks in the rc.X directory in order anymore like older linuxes, it has a smart boot script that runs things in parallel if possible
[03:45] <justdave> it uses those comments at the top to decide what things have to run before or after it
[03:45] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, hmmm k, im looking for one that has INIT info
[03:46] <justdave> but even without that, it may do the right thing if you use the update-init.rd script to add it to the boot/shutdown process
[03:46] <justdave> you might be able to supply it the necessary info on the command line with that
[03:47] <justdave> er, update-rc.d actually
[03:47] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, well how about that http://www.pastebin.ca/1243726 would that work?
[03:47] <justdave> I think upstart keeps a database somewhere, and the update-rc.d will update that database in addition to setting the symlinks
[03:48] <justdave> don't know about the required and should stuff...
[03:48] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, was just something in a different script
[03:49] <justdave> the Required-Start stuff is things that need to run before that can during startup, Required-Stop is stuff that needs to run before that can during shutdown
[03:49] <ajhtiredwolf> ajhtiredwolf, im just trying to make this run first
[03:49] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, im just trying to make this run first
[03:49] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, before anything else does
[03:49] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, on shut down
[03:49] <justdave> clear all those lines out then
[03:50] <justdave> Default-Start and Default-Stop are what runlevels to run it in start mode and stop mode
[03:50] <ajhtiredwolf> should i keep those ones?
[03:50] <justdave> the required and should lines are optional from what I can tell
[03:51] <ajhtiredwolf> alright so all i need is default start and sotp?
[03:52] <justdave> yeah
[03:53] <ajhtiredwolf> does it need the #!/bin/sh
[03:53] <ajhtiredwolf> #
[03:53] <ajhtiredwolf> # rc.local too?
[03:53] <justdave> the #!/bin/sh yes, the rest no
[03:53] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, alright heres what it looks like http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php
[03:54] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, woops here http://www.pastebin.ca/1243730
[03:55] <justdave> update-rc.d yourscriptname defaults
[03:55] <justdave> (run that, replace yourscriptname with the filename of the script you wrote (just the name, not the path)
[03:55] <justdave> assumes the script is located in /etc/init.d/
[04:05] <ajhtiredwolf> sorry
[04:05] <ajhtiredwolf> net crashed
[04:06] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, so anyway, alright i did that, do i need to do anything else to it?
[04:08] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, hmm when i ran that command it got mad, complained that it was missing required stop
[04:09] <justdave> ah, look at the other init scripts... they have function calls for start, stop, restart, etc in them
[04:10] <justdave> case "$1" in start)
[04:10] <justdave> etc
[04:10] <justdave> should be a newline before start there
[04:11] <ajhtiredwolf> what would i put under required start and stop though? they dont require anything, just leave it blank?
[04:12] <justdave> I'm probably not the best person to talk to, I've never actually messed with initscripts on Ubuntu before (just on rhel :)
[04:12] <ajhtiredwolf> hmmm
[04:12] <ajhtiredwolf> alright
[04:12] <justdave> the start/stop/restart stuff is the same, but Ubuntu does a lot of it quite differently
[04:13] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave do you know how to mount a network device?
[04:13] <justdave> I would put your network manager stop thing inside either start) or stop) depending on how you set it up for the runlevels
[04:13] <justdave> mount devicename:/path/to/mount /path/to/mount/at
[04:13] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, i mean actuall i know how to do it, i just need it to mount after the network starts
[04:14] <justdave> put it in /etc/fstab if you want it to happen automatically at boot
[04:15] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, I want it to happen at boot. BUT I need it to happen after the network starts, right now it freezes for a while because it cant mount it, then after a long time it skips it and starts up
[04:15] <ajhtiredwolf> yet... it has been mounted once i login though
[04:15] <justdave> what's it have for the fstype in fstab?
[04:15] <justdave> is it nfs?
[04:15] <justdave> usually if it knows the type is nfs it'll wait till the network is up before it tries
[04:16] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, not cifs
[04:16] <justdave> hmm, ought to do the same for that, in theory
[04:16] <justdave> that's why it does "mounting local filesystems" and not "mounting filesystems" at the early part of boot. :)
[04:16] <ajhtiredwolf> well let me see if this script worked
[04:16] <ajhtiredwolf> brb need to reboot
[04:20] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, alright cool looks like that worked for the shut down
[04:20] <ajhtiredwolf> justdave, now just gotta get the start up
[04:27] <konung> hi
[04:29] <konung> I was wondering if somebody could point me to a link: "recommended hardware for ubuntu-mythtv" or something like that? or is there a company that build "ready" to use boxes, or sells kits?
[04:29] <konung> thanks in advance
[04:29] <konung> I'll stick around
[04:40] <formol-qc> hi
[04:40] <formol-qc> would it be possible to install GPROFTPD in MythBuntu?
[05:08] <justdave> konung: putting "recommended hardware for ubuntu-mythtv" into Google provides some links that look pretty relevant
[05:09] <justdave> personally, I've found that Mac Minis make pretty decent standalone front ends (wipe OS X off and put Mythbuntu on them)
[05:09] <foxbuntu> konung, I am a core dev on the mythbuntu team and also the owner of www.foxmediasystems.com, I am working on developing ready to use Mythbuntu systems
[05:10] <justdave> my backend is a full-on HTPC unit, which I bought pre-built with MythTV already installed on it, but the company I got it from has since gone out of business.
[05:10] <hads> Mainly use Intel based hardware myself.
[05:10] <konung> justdave: ahh, the sensible thing to do :-) I'll check that out - thanks
[05:10] <foxbuntu> hads, in testing, intel seems to be my winner for MythTV as well
[05:10] <justdave> Mac Minis are Intel-based
[05:11] <justdave> (in case you were implying that they weren't - but maybe I'm just reading too much into what you said. :)
[05:11] <justdave> and yeah, I'd have to agree.  Better codec support and so forth for intel stuff
[05:12] <hads> My comment was unrelated to yours
[05:12] <justdave> trying to find modern codecs for PPC is hard. :)
[05:12] <foxbuntu> well..just have to move over to Gentoo rather than Ubuntu for better PPC support
[05:13] <justdave> (I have a PPC laptop I'm using as a front end on one TV until I come up with enough money to buy another mini to replace it)
[05:13] <justdave> oh, video drivers is the other thing.
[05:14] <foxbuntu> as usually is with everything
[05:14] <justdave> that laptop has no working video drivers that'll drive the S-video output on it in Linux
[05:14] <justdave> and there's no decent remote-control support on OS X without spending a ton of money on it
[05:14] <justdave> (the little white Apple Remotes are almost useless with Myth ;)
[05:15] <konung> so guys you don't recommend AMD
[05:15] <konung> ?
[05:15] <foxbuntu> no
[05:15] <foxbuntu> as is I would use it
[05:15] <foxbuntu> I do use it
[05:15] <justdave> so I had a choice of running it in Linux with no video, or running it in OS X with no remote
[05:15] <justdave> so it runs in OS X and the "remote" is a bluetooth keyboard
[05:16] <foxbuntu> konung, Intel generally is more expenisive but if that doesnt bother you its a better choice, but not to say AMD is bad
[05:17] <justdave> so anyone know how to debug usplash?
[05:17] <justdave> the splash screen goes away within seconds after the grub menu clears and the entire boot process goes in text mode
[05:18] <konung> ok guys thanks
[05:18] <justdave> I want my pretty Mythbuntu splash screen. :)
[05:18] <foxbuntu> justdave, I built that USplash
[05:18] <justdave> I get it during shutdown fine, but not during startup
[05:18] <konung> checking out - will check out those links
[05:19] <konung> thanks
[05:19] <foxbuntu> justdave, thats usually a sign you have something going on at boot up that it wants you to see thus killing the splash
[05:19] <justdave> This machine started life on Edgy, and has been upgraded every OS version
[05:19] <hads> justdave: bug 205990
[05:19] <Zinn> Bug 205990 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "[hardy] splash screen disappears after a few seconds" [Medium, Triaged] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/205990
[05:19] <justdave> had this problem for a couple revs, so it's not new, I'm just now getting around to trying to deal with it finally. :)
[05:25] <justdave> aha
[05:25] <justdave> my resume uuid indeed does not match that of the swap partition
[05:26]  * justdave fixes that and rebuilds the initramfs
[05:27] <justdave> rebooting...
[05:27] <justdave> success, I have a splash screen with a progress meter. :)  Thanks hads
[05:28] <hads> np
[05:31] <foxbuntu> hads, as usual the human bug indexer
[05:31] <foxbuntu> ;)
[06:15] <jake_> cna anyone help me install on 8.10
[16:22] <CRXLPY> when I install an ap it does not always appear in the menu afterwards. even after restarting X.  why is that?
[16:45] <jphillip> CRXLPY not all aps have menu entries
[16:47] <CRXLPY> seems like I have a nack of picking ones that dont
[16:48] <CRXLPY> but it is a small thing jphillip, I have other issues to fix
[16:48] <CRXLPY> thanks for the reply
[16:51] <jphillip> CRXLPY you can just add items yourself
[16:52] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, which app?
[16:53] <CRXLPY> most recently gtkdiskfree
[16:53] <tgm4883_laptop> idk about that app sory
[16:53] <CRXLPY> should I have chosen kdiskfree instead?
[16:53]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[16:53] <tgm4883_laptop> I use df -h
[16:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ;)
[16:54] <CRXLPY> I figured since xfce is gtk I would go gtk when I could
[16:54] <tgm4883_laptop> well if it had a menu entry, then it should add it
[16:54] <tgm4883_laptop> but i dont know if it does
[16:54] <CRXLPY> ok, no big deal, just curious
[16:56] <NicEXE> I want to install mythtv to a single PC (with Ubuntu 8.10 installation) (I already have a MySQL server)
[16:56] <NicEXE> which files do I need?
[16:57] <tgm4883_laptop> NicEXE, well the frontend, backend, and database packages I suppose
[16:57] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop my mobo swap went well for the most part. (at least I dont know what is broken by it yet LOL)
[16:58] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, thats good.  Mine is going less than stellar ;)
[16:58] <tgm4883_laptop> I moved my backend which went fine, but I ordered a case from newegg with a bum power supply
[16:59] <CRXLPY> I was surprised I moved from AthXP to Ath64  (NForce2 to NForce3Ultra)
[16:59] <wilberfan> morning boys! (& girls)
[17:00] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop why didnt your order one with a good psu? :P
[17:00] <CRXLPY> what case tgm4883_laptop?
[17:00] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, forgot to check that on the order form ;)
[17:00] <tgm4883_laptop> antec fusion black
[17:01] <wilberfan> is there a way to set up more than one, erm, profile on the front end?  one would use "Internal", another would use "xine", another "mplayer", etc...?
[17:01] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop thats why it was on "sale"
[17:01] <tgm4883_laptop> jphillip, I guess so ;)
[17:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ran for about 2 days
[17:02] <CRXLPY> did you forget to feed the gerbels?
[17:02] <tgm4883_laptop> which was just enough time to move my backend and get the remote and LCD working
[17:02] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, no, I kept shoving handfuls of food in there and it just stopped ;)
[17:03] <neoneddy> Hello everyone, long time Mythbuntu user, first time chatter
[17:03] <wilberfan> lol
[17:03] <CRXLPY> the new PETA-ium cpu
[17:03] <wilberfan> [rimshot]
[17:03] <CRXLPY> thank you, thank you
[17:03] <neoneddy> I was thinking today how cool it would be if mythbuntu had a twitter account we could follow
[17:03] <CRXLPY> greetings neoneddy
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> neoneddy, thats pretty freedom hating no?
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> we do have an identi.ca account though
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> not that it gets used that often
[17:04] <neoneddy> ah yes, indenti.ca
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> most of the devs dont' know what to write
[17:04] <neoneddy> I need to get on that
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> so what do you want to see in that feed?
[17:04] <jphillip> you kids and your interweb sites
[17:05] <neoneddy> well like when the new 8.10 was relaeased.. I follow it closely, but maybe other cool updates "hey remotes work better now" etc
[17:05] <neoneddy> actually, it sounds liek remotes will work better in this new release yes?
[17:06] <tgm4883_laptop> I add stuff to it when I push new releases to mythbuntu-testing
[17:20] <neoneddy> there has to be a way to sync the identi.ca and twitter right?
[17:20] <tgm4883_laptop> i thought I heard there was, it's a one way sync though twitter > identi.ca
[17:21] <neoneddy> stink ... oh well
[17:21] <tgm4883_laptop> well that would just mean we would post to the twitter acct
[17:21] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll look into it
[17:22] <CRXLPY> ok, I have poked around enough I feel justified to ask help. I recorded a movie immediately after I swapped the mobo. all seemed fine. I set the cutlist around commercials and transcoded. but now if I try to put it in an ISO to burn it fails. whether I re-encode or not it fails...  getting dvr online, will post a pastebin in a sec
[17:26] <neoneddy> Question: I have 2 drives in my mythbuntu box, an IDE and a sata, the IDE is the boot drive,  but it keeps switching to the sata for boot, like when my wife reboots it.
[17:26] <crxdvr> http://pastebin.com/fafc6a02
[17:27] <neoneddy> also, anyone here use the antec fusion case? with the nice VFD ?
[17:27] <tgm4883_laptop> neoneddy, sorry, mine has the LCD
[17:29] <neoneddy> is yours the black one or the silver one?
[17:29] <tgm4883_laptop> black
[17:29] <neoneddy> mine too, maybe I mean the lcd then :-)
[17:29] <tgm4883_laptop> could be
[17:29] <neoneddy> I've had a heck of a time getting it to work right
[17:29] <neoneddy> have you had any luck?
[17:29] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[17:29] <tgm4883_laptop> other than my power supply dying
[17:30] <crxdvr> when I look in mytharchive/temp/logs/mythburn.log I see this...
[17:30] <neoneddy> if you don't mind me asking, what did you do to get it working?... I'm using the Phillips Microsoft MCE remote with the USB receiver
[17:30] <crxdvr> http://pastebin.com/f4e22bcdf
[17:30] <tgm4883_laptop> neoneddy, are you using 8.04 or 8.10?
[17:31] <neoneddy> 8.04
[17:31] <tgm4883_laptop> thats perfect
[17:31] <tgm4883_laptop> the guide I followed was for 8.04
[17:31] <tgm4883_laptop> I haven't rewritten it for 8.10 yet though
[17:31] <crxdvr> why would changing mobos cause a perm issue?
[17:31] <tgm4883_laptop> let me grab the link for you
[17:31] <neoneddy> member:crxdvr have to deleted your ICE file? in your home folder?.. let me look it up
[17:32] <neoneddy> cool
[17:33] <neoneddy> crxdvr try this http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=610856&page=2
[17:33] <neoneddy> I had to add a line in the startup script to kill that file for my mythburn to work right
[17:33] <neoneddy> .ICEauthority I think it is
[17:34] <tgm4883_laptop> neoneddy, start at post 12, then follow the instructions.  It should work.  http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=d3f7c9e7cd0e4eff5dddd6473dd55b86&t=907256&page=2
[17:34] <crxdvr> I never had a problem before the swap (I did not reinstall, just swapped mobo, same drives and everything else)
[17:34] <neoneddy> can I keep my MCE IR receiver?
[17:37] <neoneddy> I recently unplugged my Imon LCD because I think it kept switching from lirc0 to lirc1  every time it rebooted, and then the remote would quit working, would this solution mean not using the MCE IR receiver ?
[17:38] <neoneddy> I was hoping to keep that because it has 2 "blaster" ports to control other devices
[17:38] <crxdvr> well since according to that thread, ice has something to do with kde apps (and I use kvirc) I will exit here and delete it
[17:38] <tgm4883_laptop> neoneddy, yea I don't know yet ;)
[17:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> neoneddy: your mce remote should work with the imon internal receiver
[17:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm working on that too, but I need a new PS first
[17:39] <CRXLPY> u need a ps NOT a pos
[17:39] <neoneddy> I plan on rebuilding the box soon with 2 sata drives, I like the antec case, but why only 2 drive bays, seriously
[17:39] <tgm4883_laptop> !twitter
[17:39] <Zinn> http://twitter.com/mythbuntu
[17:40] <tgm4883_laptop> !identi.ca
[17:40] <Zinn> http://identi.ca/mythbuntu
[17:40]  * neoneddy following mythbuntu now 
[17:41] <CRXLPY> neoneddy as it turns out. that file is not present. so it cant be the .ICEauthority issue
[17:42] <tgm4883_laptop> !microblog
[17:42] <Zinn> We have accounts on both twitter and identi.ca which are kept in sync.  You can subscribe to either one and get all updates.  identi.ca at http://identi.ca/mythbuntu   twitter at http://twitter.com/mythbuntu
[17:42] <neoneddy> crxlpy , hmm, that fixed it for me, oh well
[17:42] <CRXLPY> I think you had a different issue
[17:43] <neoneddy> probably...  anyone have that issue where the dvd's won't play on some PC's or other players?
[17:43] <CRXLPY> due to old dvd drives yeah
[17:44] <CRXLPY> or cheap media
[17:44] <CRXLPY> unless you are burning to non-standard specs
[17:44] <neoneddy> as an experiment I once took the ISO that mythburn made, and burned that on my mac, and got the same goofy disc
[17:45] <neoneddy> my only work around was to load the burned disc into the mythbuntu box then use SSHFS and pull the data off the disc and reburn on OSX
[17:45] <CRXLPY> the dvdrom in my dvr wont even read factory dl, much less dvd-r
[17:49] <neoneddy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=840998 this was the issue I had
[17:49] <CRXLPY> welll actualllyyyyy   looking again (with both eyes) I saw a ICE file, rm'ed it. now trying to make the iso again
[17:50] <neoneddy> off to get lunch..  let me know how that turns out
[17:50] <neoneddy> odd that a MB change would cause it IMO
[17:50] <CRXLPY> but I successfully made a test iso with a short recording made b4 the mobo swap so I dont know if this will end differently or not
[17:52] <CRXLPY> the 3 permission denied errors at the end of mythburn.log make me wonder......
[18:40] <neoneddy> When I get "permission denied" I usually have my wife try
[18:49] <CRXLPY> huh?
[18:49] <neoneddy> nevermind.. married joke
[18:49] <CRXLPY> thought so
[18:49] <neoneddy> there is an XKCD about it someplace
[18:51] <CRXLPY> more married humor?
[18:52] <Seeker`> "make me a sandwich", "sudo make me a sandwich"?
[18:52] <neoneddy> yeah that one
[18:56] <CRXLPY> neoneddy success!  iso created. I guess something did not shutdown/startup properly when I swapped mobos yesterday and left some ICE on the floor
[18:57] <neoneddy> YES!.. I came in here for some help and ended up helping someone else
[19:06] <CRXLPY> karma works like that
[19:08] <CRXLPY> now I am burning it and will see how it works on my player
[20:09] <MythbuntuGuest65> hey everyone ... looking for an video output option from computer to TV (low-def) on a PIII 7333mhz machine ... any suggestions?
[20:09] <MythbuntuGuest65> afk
[20:15] <jphillip> MythbuntuGuest65 Nvidia card running XvMC should do pretty well for you, do you have a capture card already?
[20:55] <camelreef> good evening everyone from Scotland
[20:57] <camelreef> I'm running Hardy 64-bit, Medibuntu, Mythbuntu -fixes, backports, updates, security and up-to-date
[20:57] <camelreef> and DVDs do not play
[20:57] <camelreef> even ripped ISOs
[20:58] <camelreef> or DVDs I could play a few weeks ago
[20:58] <camelreef> 2008-11-03 20:51:10.261 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/videos/RETURN_KING_EXT_D1.iso
[20:58] <camelreef> 2008-11-03 20:51:10.261 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec
[20:59] <camelreef> please point at my stupidity, laugh, then tell me where I did wrong
[20:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: maybe your missing libdvdcss or something
[20:59] <neoneddy> question: why doesn't mythbunutu jsut come with al lthat stuff pre-installed ready to go?
[20:59] <superm1> questionable legality
[21:00] <superm1> it's easy to activate in mcc, but it cant be turned on by default
[21:01] <camelreef> rhpot1991_laptop, libdvdcss2 is there
[21:01] <camelreef> keys are there
[21:01] <camelreef> same for libdvdnav and libdvdread
[21:02] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: stupid question, have you tried rebooting?
[21:03] <neoneddy> fair enough
[21:04] <camelreef> rhpot1991_laptop, rebooting? Am I runnning Windows?
[21:04] <camelreef> I guess I could, but really?
[21:05] <camelreef> I'll try, though, but really?
[21:06] <hads> Yeah, shouldn't really be nessecary
[21:17] <MythbuntuGuest65> i'm excited to say i can get the database running in my machine ... this whole project seems over my head as i don't have any linux experience
[21:19] <camelreef> rhpot1991_laptop, a reboot did it, I'm stunned
[21:20] <camelreef> I wish I had restarted  the front or backend first
[21:20] <camelreef> no reason for a kernel reload
[21:20] <camelreef> anyway, if this happens again, that's what I'll do
[21:21] <camelreef> and I'll report back
[21:21] <camelreef> thanks for the time
[21:21] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: well keep an eye on it I guess, if it happens again we can try to find something
[21:21] <camelreef> sure thing
[21:21] <camelreef> bbfn
[21:24] <hads> rhpot1991_laptop: Fair enough
[21:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> hads: I'm assuming it was some hung process, easier to just reboot than sit here all day trying to figure out which one
[21:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> if he comes back again then we can dig deeper
[22:35] <CptFuzzy> i still can't seem to get a fresh install of ubuntu + mythubuntu to work:  mysql login problem.  i tried the dpkg reconfig thing
[22:36] <CptFuzzy> 8.1
[22:37] <CptFuzzy> it's almost like it's not creating the mythtv mysql user or something
[22:38] <laga> are you using the alternate disk?
[22:38] <CptFuzzy> ubuntu-desktop first, then apt install mythbuntu-desktop
[23:03] <versus> hi does one know whether mythbuntu is able to play m2ts files within a folder like VIDEO_TS ?
[23:05] <gregL> m2ts is that a blue ray rip?
[23:05] <versus> yes
[23:06] <versus> this seems to be the only way to play blu rays with linux as far as I know
[23:06] <gregL> Yeah, i don't think you can...There is a wiki that give some info on it.. do a search for blue ray mythtv..
[23:07] <gregL> do a search doom9 blueray linux
[23:08] <versus> thx Ill have a look
[23:08] <gregL> :)
[23:15] <versus> looks nice, it seems all I need is mplayer and a special codecs
[23:18] <versus> codec not codecs  btw.: there seems to be a folder like HVDVD_TS (similar to VIDEO_TS) and mplayer is already implemented into mythtv, so it should be able to make mplayer handle it like the blu ray disc it is (with menus subtitles ...)