/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/03/#ubuntu-ops.txt

FlannelFloodbots need tweaking00:20
ivantishey ubuntu ops01:04
ivantisi am starting public logging of #ubuntu01:04
PriceChildivantis: is this a question or a statement?01:04
ivantisdo you mind that?01:05
ivantisquestion01:05
ivantistell me if i should remove them01:05
PriceChildivantis: Were you here yesterday?01:06
ivantis01:06
ivantisyes01:06
ivantiswhy?01:06
PriceChildivantis: you were wanting to create a new bot for #ubuntu?01:09
ivantisyeah01:09
ivantisthat was me01:09
ivantisanyway01:09
ivantisthe logs are at http://ubuntu.irclogs.space-lab.us01:09
ivantistell me if you do not want them01:10
naliothivantis: we have log bots already, thanks01:10
ivantisi will remove them01:10
naliothplease do  :)01:10
ivantisokay01:10
naliothand remove them from everywhere else you've not gained permission01:10
ivantisi sent out a message01:11
ivantisif a few users (not ops) say no, i remove them01:11
naliothif the staff get complaints, they may be removed from the network  :(01:11
Flannelivantis: What about the people who aren't active in the channels at those times?01:11
naliothso make sure you have permission wherever you put them01:11
PriceChildivantis: If you want to provide a logging service, I think it safer to make it 'opt-in' rather than 'opt-out'01:11
ivantisgood idea01:12
ivantisstill only in ##C++, #debian, #gnu, #kclug01:12
ivantiseveryone else voted out01:12
PriceChildivantis: there are a couple of articles on blog.freenode.net's archive about it.01:13
ivantisread em01:13
naliothdo the ops in those channels know about your bots, ivantis ?01:14
ivantismy bots?01:15
ivantisi dont have bots there01:15
ivantisi always ask01:15
naliothivantis: do those channels you listed know about your logging them?01:15
naliothpublicly?01:15
nalioththe ops there01:15
ivantisno one has said anything in #gnu since i said it01:16
PriceChildThat is not the same.01:16
ivantis##c++ and #debian people didnt seem to care01:16
ivantisthey looked over them01:16
ivantisill take off #gnu until i get a response01:16
Flannelivantis: Again, lack of discussion isn't the same as consent.01:17
Flannelivantis: As an example, 3/4s of the people talking in ##C++ right now weren't around at the time of your announcement.01:32
ivantisremoved ##C++01:32
Flannelivantis: This isn't about any particular channel, just the way you're going about the whole thing.01:33
ivantisyeah01:33
ivantisi have permission from the ones left now01:33
PriceChildivantis: I think it best you stop them all until someone gives you permission. That someone being in charge of the channel.01:33
ivantiswaiting in ##C++ and #kclug01:33
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:26
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:26
naliothanyone catch the culprit?02:27
Madpilotwe have all three FloodBots op'd up in #u02:27
Madpilotthe D C C idiot?02:28
Flannel18:26 -!- k2 [n=tty@dhcp-0-9-5b-95-b5-71.cpe.quickclic.net] has left #ubuntu02:28
PriceChildk2?02:28
naliothi didn't get attacked02:28
Flannelhe left with the exploit in his part message02:28
Madpilotk2 (n=tty@dhcp-0-9-5b-95-b5-71.cpe.quickclic.net)02:28
naliothah02:28
PriceChildquit message02:28
naliothyeah, thanks02:29
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)03:00
naliothnetsplit03:01
Flanneljust lag I think?03:01
FlannelOh03:01
Flanneltheres a netsplit03:01
bazhangwow03:04
bazhanglike a five minute lag here03:04
PriceChildopen week today i believe03:55
FlannelMonday, yes.03:56
Madpilotit's already Monday some places :)04:01
Madpilotoh-god-hundred Monday, but still Monday04:01
Flannelkeep an eye out for oly562 in other channels05:23
FlannelIs it a full moon?05:47
naliothno, just a quarter one05:50
naliothpeople must be getting their practice in for month's end05:50
FlannelPractice is important.05:51
ikoniaivantis: is there a reason your still here ?06:07
FlannelAnyone with -offtopic awake?06:19
FlannelHowdy Madpilot06:20
Madpilothi Flannel 06:20
naliothFlannel: i'm usually around06:21
Madpilotwhee, intrepid decided to set my screen rez to something massive like 1600x1400...06:21
Flannelnalioth: I'll ping in an emergency, just like I could o-p-s in an emergency.  But I'd rather not have an emergency06:21
naliothFlannel: good, since i'm going for a ride06:22
Flannelnalioth: well, Madpilot's here at the moment, I know he has -ot06:22
Madpilottrouble in -offtopic?06:22
naliothMadpilot: no, he wants backup if he stirs some up  :P06:22
FlannelMadpilot: 4chan discussions.06:23
Madpilotsounds like fun06:23
MadpilotFlannel, you've got ops in ot, right?06:23
FlannelNo06:23
FlannelOr I wouldn't need *you* ;)06:23
MadpilotNo? It used to come free with #ubuntu ops, whether you wanted it or not06:24
* Flannel thinks he put the wrong emphasis there. but whatever06:24
FlannelMadpilot: Yeah, not anymore.  And the ones who did have ops have slowly been dying off.06:25
ubot3In #ubuntu-cn, deaddummy said: !!!!idesperaso is so poor.......06:25
Myrttihello lovelies ♥ 06:40
Flannelhowdy Myrtti 06:40
Madpilotmorning Myrtti 06:46
Myrtti06:51
ubottuIn ubottu, driftwood said: apt is cool.... err why the message tho, javid07:11
FlannelHi driftwood, how can we help you?07:12
driftwoodjust got an odd message from ubottu thats all07:12
driftwoodwell may log off and ponder07:13
Myrttiback to bed to have a bit of shuteye...07:24
nekostarvery well07:47
nekostari'm back.07:47
nekostarare you ready to do the right thing?07:47
FlannelHowdy nekostar07:47
FlannelQuestion for you:  Why should we unban you?07:47
nekostarhm?07:51
nekostarwe could start with a heavy handed banning in the first place.07:51
nekostar~_~07:56
Flannelnekostar: Were you planning on finishing with anything?07:57
nekostar>07:57
nekostar? *07:57
nekostarfinishing what?07:57
nekostarwhat's there to finish07:57
nekostarall that was the other day - their all helped lol07:57
Flannelnekostar: "we could start with...07:58
Flannelnekostar: " usually implies you're not finished.07:58
nekostaroh07:58
FlannelI was just waiting for your full statement07:58
nekostaryour actually paying attention to what i'm saying this time eh?07:59
nekostarwow07:59
nekostarno no need07:59
Flannelnekostar: I've never not paid attention to what you were saying.07:59
nekostarFlannel i wouldnt say that.07:59
nekostareither you were not listening or not capable of grasping what i was saying.07:59
nekostareither of which is kinda blah07:59
Flannelnekostar: The fact that I was paying attention is why I'm able to say that no, you wont be unbanned right now.  And if this attitude persists, it may be a long while before you are.  You should re-read the code of conduct, and IRC guidelines (or read them in the first place, if you haven't)08:00
Flannelnekostar: I can give you links to them if you'd like08:00
nekostarnaw08:01
nekostari'm already in the chan08:01
nekostar^^08:01
elkbuntureally. prove it.08:01
nekostar...08:01
nekostargl with that lol08:01
elkbuntui don't believe you.08:01
nekostargo find a troll to feed08:02
elkbuntui'm already doing that. you really shouldnt speak with your mouth full.08:02
nekostarlulz08:03
elkbuntuah, you're one of them.08:03
inx?08:03
Madpilothey inx - new nick?08:03
elkbuntuinx, not you.08:04
inxregistered today08:04
inxMadpilot: ^^08:04
inxelkbuntu: ah OK :)08:04
Madpilotah08:04
inxMadpilot: hadn't been used for five years, so08:04
inxgrabbed it because of my INX project :)08:05
Mez!idle | nekostar 08:05
ubottunekostar: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.08:05
nekostar...08:05
nekostarMez i'm not really quite done 08:05
inxanyway just checking that it was grouped and so on08:06
Mez08:06 <+Flannel> nekostar: The fact that I was paying attention is why I'm able to say that no, you wont be unbanned right now.  And if this attitude  persists, it may be a long while before you are.  You should re-read the code of conduct, and IRC guidelines (or read them in the first  place, if you haven't)08:06
nekostarMez unlike some i can, and actually do read.08:06
Madpilotreally?08:06
Meznekostar: then how are you *not* done ?08:06
nekostar!who | mez08:07
ubottumez: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:07
Meznekostar: I dont get your point ?08:07
nekostarer08:08
elkbuntuMez, i'm pretty sure he has no point other than to be a nuisance.08:08
nekostarstupid tab complete08:08
nekostarlol08:08
Meznekostar: you didnt use tab complete, or would have capitalised my name. Please leave, You have no further business here at this moment in time08:08
nekostarcheers btw elkbuntu - at least you can construct a decent sentance08:08
nekostarmez08:09
nekostarfirst yes i did lol08:09
elkbuntuunlike you, it seems.08:09
MezE_SENTENCE_FRAGMENT08:09
nekostarMez i'm capable, just not willing.08:09
elkbuntuyeah, sure.08:09
elkbuntui believe you. millions would not.08:09
Mezhey, that's my phrase elky ;)08:10
nekostar@_@ millions :starz in eyez:08:10
Madpilotelkbuntu, is this a 48hr ban, or a longer one for nekostar?08:10
elkbuntuMadpilot, it's until he can prove that he's worth unbanning.08:10
Madpilotah, one of those08:11
nekostarorly08:11
Madpilotdon't think he's doing very well so far08:11
Mezgrr08:11
nekostarsee08:11
nekostarand there we are08:11
Mez/remove #ubuntu-ops nekostar As you've been told, your business is concluded here.08:11
nekostarnow you know why i wasnt done Mez 08:11
elkbuntunekostar, you said yourself you are evading. prove to us that the evader can behave rationally and civilly.08:11
nekostar?08:11
nekostarwhich bit?08:11
nekostarthe part where i come in here and try to explain in the middle of the situation why the op is abusing his/her/it's powers?08:12
Madpilotthis bit: <nekostar> i'm already in the chan08:12
nekostaror when i come in the next day, and ask nicely if your done with the bs?08:12
elkbuntuthat bit.08:12
nekostarwhat does that have to do with this?08:12
elkbuntunekostar, i think you fail to understand irony. i base this on your second last sentance.08:12
Flannelnekostar: You came in here and were given a simple question: Why should we unban you.  You didn't really answer said question, and actually gave us more reason to keep the ban.08:12
elkbuntuFlannel, i agree wholeheartedly.08:13
nekostarFlannel i completely disagree.08:13
nekostari'm merely refusing to cater to your whim of me trying to apologize for doing something wrong.08:14
nekostarsure perhaps i was a bit hot headed yesterday08:14
nekostarbut if i'm willing to go that far we should not stop till i receive an in chan apology from teh op involved08:14
Madpilotnekostar, you're doing a very poor job of proving you're more rational today08:14
nekostarlol08:14
Flannelnekostar: To be brutally honest, the continuance has almost nothing to do with whatever the original reason for your ban was, and more to do with your continued behavior which is out of line with the code of conduct.08:14
nekostarand your doing a really poor job of laying bait08:14
MadpilotGo away, come back in 48hrs or more.08:14
nekostarno.08:15
nekostari wont be back in here.08:15
nekostari'd just continue to evade, and one day the ban is gone.08:15
nekostarlol08:15
Madpilotbegging for it, or begging for it?08:15
elkbuntu!staff | mind seeing if you can trace the evader from the /whowas or something?08:16
ubottumind seeing if you can trace the evader from the /whowas or something?: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)08:16
Madpilotneed sleep. don't let the trolls bite.08:34
* Flannel worries not about troll bites, only grues.08:34
Myrtti*yawn*08:55
substrhi09:29
elkbuntuthey dont read minds.09:29
substrcould someone please find out why i got banned from #kubuntu-de?09:29
elkbuntuwhen and what nick were you using at the time?09:31
substrabout ten minutes ago i've been on the channel with this nick (substr)09:32
Myrttiusually loco channel bans are dealt in #ubuntu-irc09:32
elkbuntuMyrtti, sorry, i didnt notice the -de part09:32
substrwell, next channel to ask in.. ;)09:33
elkbuntui brought him here from #freenode. it'd be why you're not appearing in our bantracking system though09:33
Myrtti:-/09:34
elkbuntuodd thought... can wubi run in wine?09:49
elkbuntuo.O09:55
elkbuntumaybe not so odd...09:55
elkbuntuminus the wine part though09:58
ikoniaivantis: is there a reason your still in the channel 10:15
ikoniaivantis: I believe you questions about running bots has been answer10:15
ikoniaanswered10:15
jussi01!idle | ivantis10:38
ubottuivantis: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.10:38
bazhangwow 11:31
bazhangsome folks just cant seem to read instructions11:32
ikoniayup11:33
bazhangbluee and now clint11:33
ikoniathey are trolling me ;)11:33
bazhanghehe11:34
bazhanguse the DESKTOP!!!!11:34
bazhangwat?11:34
ikoniathat was bluee earlier11:34
bazhangyeh11:35
jussi01!version12:12
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »12:12
ikonia</count doku>12:35
elkbuntuhaving fun in trollville12:50
elkbuntu?12:50
ikonianot me sir12:51
Picima'am12:51
* Pici tips hat12:51
elkbuntuheh12:52
PiciI'm way too awake for this Monday morning.12:52
ikoniayesI have a little buzz this morning12:52
ikoniaalthough I feel tired, long train ride this morning12:52
PiciIts probably because of the time change here.12:53
ikoniaI wish there was a time change here12:53
PiciIf anyone's curious, I fixed my capab identify issue.  A newer version of the format_identify script supports automatically detecting and enabling it. I was on an old version.14:00
bazhangphew14:00
bazhangnow I can sleep nights.14:00
Pici:P14:00
MezMyrtti: for some reason, your blog is showing as having a link to mine from yours yesterday? but I cant find it.... (damn link tracking)14:04
Myrttioh, dunno14:05
Mezlink from http://myrtti.fi/blog/2008/11/02/daily-digest-for-2008-11-02/14:06
Mezsays you linked to me...14:06
Mezweirdness... 14:06
PiciMez: You are on the 'Saw it on Teh Intternet' sidebar14:06
Myrttiha! true14:07
Myrttioo, telephone14:07
Mezah!14:07
Mezthat makes sense then ;)14:08
Picisaxamaphone14:08
MezPici: good spot...14:08
Mezmust use referer tracking14:08
PiciIndeed14:08
Mezwow... that must er...14:08
Mezwhat a waste of resources (pinging back every referrer?)14:09
marcboyHey, i was wondering if anyone could shed light onto why im banned from the #ubuntu channel?14:10
ikonia@btlogin14:10
ikoniamarcboy: one moment please14:10
marcboyok :)14:10
Mez@bansearch marcboy 14:11
ubottuMatch: *!?=GOD@* by ompaul in #ubuntu on Jul 18 2008 07:04:09 (ID: 2710)14:11
Picimarcboy: You can rejoin the channel now, sorry for the inconvenience.14:11
Mez@btlogin14:11
PiciMez: I just removed it.14:11
ikoniaI don't see it in bt14:11
marcboythanks :)14:11
Mezno problem14:11
Myrttioooh, gotta go14:12
ikoniaPici: what did you search for in bt to see him ?14:12
Piciikonia: I used @bansearch14:12
ikoniaI searched on marcboy and nothing comes back (it still doens't14:12
MezMyrtti: toilet's that way *points*14:12
ikoniawhy did bansearch see it but bt doesn't14:12
PiciBecause bt doesnt know who marcboy is, or his current hostmask14:13
Mezikonia: cause bansearch searches permutatins of the full mask. The ban that matches doesnt include his nick14:13
ikoniaah so it searches the current user using marcboy and his host etc etc, rather than the hardcoded words fo the search14:13
ikoniaI thought it jsut searched bt 14:13
MyrttiMez: sorry, to the bus. oh.14:14
Myrttibtw.14:14
MyrttiMARMITE IS HORRID JUNK14:14
MezMyrtti: was a boke ...14:14
MyrttiBLECCCCHHHH14:14
MezMyrtti: thank god someone agrees ...14:14
Myrttiyou English are Weird Bunch.14:14
Meznoone else I know agrees...14:14
PiciI've never had, and hopefully never will14:15
popey\o/ marmite hilight14:15
MezMyrtti: dont blame me - I hate it...14:15
Mezpopey: ? freak.14:15
MyrttiI blame popey 14:15
Myrtti-->14:15
popey\o/14:15
popeyFreak!14:15
naliothMyrtti: you don't eat it by the spoonful, you spread it very thinly on toast (or dunk a dollop in a bowl of soup)14:16
MezI think I killed my PC...14:17
Mez17Gb it got to with the tar... and well... then didnt go any firsther14:18
Mezfurther14:18
Mezah, never mind... it's just started again.14:18
PiciLjL: Did you happen to see the freenode blog post about the new ircd?14:23
LjLPici: i think so, unless it's new14:23
LjLwhy?14:23
LjLah yes it's new14:24
LjLi'll go read it. still i have *been* on the new ircd already, and so have my bots - if that's what you're thinking about14:24
PiciLjL: It was indeed.14:25
LjLPici: well i can tell you there are a couple of problems, but i've seen nothing that can't be fixed easily enough14:25
LjLPici: i already have a branch that mostly works in there, if you've got nothing to do we can join and have another look14:25
PiciLjL: Nah, I do have other stuff to do right now actually :)14:26
PiciJust was making sure that you saw it14:26
LjLPici: really the most annoying thing is you can't forward people to channels randomly anymore :<14:26
LjLalso, the +q being separate from +b is a nuisance with the bots14:26
jussi01Myrtti: Vegemite FTW14:26
PiciLjL: I know :(14:26
PiciNo more sending people to ##windows :(14:27
tritiumPici: what's the URL for the blog post?14:27
LjLtritium: just go to blog.freenode.net14:27
LjLfirst post14:27
tritiumthank you14:27
Picihttp://blog.freenode.net/2008/11/help-us-test-ircd-seven/14:27
LjLalthough there was an older post about it14:27
tritiumInteresting.14:29
* nalioth blinks at tritium active during the light of day . . . 14:30
tritiumnalioth: heh, fair enough.  I took today off to take my wife to visit her family.14:30
naliothtritium: ah, great :) ( on the day off ) sorry to hear that ( visiting the MIL )14:31
Piciheh14:31
tritiumheh :)14:31
ikoniawhats worse, working or visiting the inlaws14:35
* tritium ponders14:37
Garyyou work over your inlaws, wow14:40
Gary(work over/beat up) btw, not a typo!14:40
Garywith my inlaws, i'd do overtime at work :p14:42
cannonballCan I get a manual test run at me for that DCC exploit please?14:52
jribcannonball: you're good14:53
cannonballthank you14:53
cannonballGood because I didn't disconnect?14:53
jussi01anyone want to buy a luxury yacht?14:58
jussi01http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/11/02/iraq.yacht.ap/index.html14:58
jussi01emonkey: how can we help you today?15:03
ikoniajussi01: I'll take to15:03
ikoniatwo15:03
emonkeyjussi01, sorry for joining, little mistake by clicking on the wrong thing in a channel ... ;-) 15:04
emonkeyGood evening and bye all15:04
=== Pici` is now known as Pici
ubottuIn #ubuntu, and-enabled-tour said: ubottu wow, you is multi-lingual :)15:23
jribheh15:23
bazhangalbhack> to crack a wireless wep wep Quelle Surprise15:37
* Pici sighs15:37
bazhanghe cant not enter after a single word.15:38
jdongsentence buffering!15:48
bazhanghehe15:49
tritiumHave a good day, all.15:52
PiciCyas tritium 15:52
tritium:)15:52
bazhangbye tritium :)15:58
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Mez!version17:22
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »17:22
ubot3In ##apple, TheInfinity said: !git is <reply> GIT ist ein Versionsverwaltungssystem, das anders als CVS dezentral organisiert wurde. Viele Projekte wie der Linux kernel nutzen Git bereits. Mehr Informationen: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Baustelle/Git .17:34
Mez##apple ?17:34
Flannelhmm17:34
Flannelgerman apples at that.17:35
Mezikonia/nalioth ?17:36
stdinthat's nal's bot17:36
Mezyeah, I see them two in there though... so wondering if they know why it's in there....17:37
naliothMez: it's my bot (for Ubuntu help on Apple hardware)17:37
naliothsee two of who?17:38
Mezthe two people I mentioned...17:38
Mezs/them/those/17:38
Meznalioth: I dont personally think its a good idea to have it there.....17:39
naliothnoted17:39
MezI can see stuff like the above being a potential issue.17:39
Mez(another spam avenue that you're the only one with control over)17:39
PriceChildspam avenue?17:40
FlannelPriceChild: right next to troll boulevard17:40
MezPriceChild: think people flooding the bot with edit requests....17:40
Mezthem being forwarded here...17:40
naliothMez: i am not the only op in ##apple 17:40
Mezonly ubuntu opers that have access to that chan are freenode staffers AFAIAA17:41
naliothone doesn't have to be an "ubuntu oper" to recognize bot abuse17:41
Meznalioth: however, if the abuse is in a channel outside our control, we have god knows how many extra fences to jump over, espescially if you're asleep...17:42
naliothMez: in the years since ubot3 has been there, it's an issue now?17:43
naliothwell, now that it's in public irc logs with nice keywords, it might just be17:43
Meznalioth: It's only been bought to my attention NOW. I'm just stating my POV17:43
stdinif there ever was an edit request flood, there's always /mode #ubuntu-ops +b %ubot3!*@*17:44
naliothwell, thanks for lesson #435 for the trolls17:44
stdinbut an op in the channel would likely take care of it before that was needed17:44
nalioth"edit request flood of #ubuntu-ops"  //check//17:44
Meznalioth: if thats your POV... you're not exactly helping... 17:45
Meznalioth: where would you RATHER issues are bought up?17:45
naliothwell, since we _know_ trolls peruse the #ubuntu-ops logs regularly, a PM would have been a good start17:45
Flannelhi trolls! \o/17:46
Meznalioth: whereas I would rather not, you see, public channls at least give accountability for what's said.17:47
ikoniaMez: you called17:47
nalioth#ubuntu-ircbots-team is not publically logged and the very same point could have been made there17:47
Mezikonia: read backlog17:47
Meznalioth and how long now till a troll breaks in and logs ? :P17:48
Meznalioth and how long now till a troll breaks in and logs ? :P17:48
Mez(sorry bout double)17:48
Flannelnalioth: Really, its not nearly as big of a deal as you're making it.  Anyone who submits a factoid sees that it gets forwarded here, anyone who reads the logs already knows they get forwarded here.17:48
naliothbut now the trolls _know_ that 'edit floods' irritate mez (and most likely #ubuntu-ops)17:49
Meznalioth: common sense. Floods of ANY kind annoy the ops17:49
ikoniaah, I didn't know anything about a bot in ##apple, never seen it get used17:50
naliothwell, you need to keep adding to your list.  there are some #ubuntu-* channels inhabited by ubottu, ubot5 or ubot3 with little op presence as well17:50
Meznalioth: though, in those cases its in our namespace, so a Council member an step in.,17:51
naliothif they're awake17:51
nalioth##apple has the same access list entry as all #ubuntu* channels are supposed to ---> freenode staff17:52
Meznalioth: yes. However, the thing is - with the aforementioned channel... afaik, you're the only one of our team who can step in. 17:52
ikoniacan other freenode staff not ?17:52
ikoniaI got tomaw to help in apple the other night17:52
ikoniahe was quick and handy 17:52
naliothquite so.17:52
Meznalioth: just forget it. My points have been made...17:52
ubottuerUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (pervert_)18:19
ubottuIn ubottu, MTecknology said: practices is <reply>Please use common sense practices. Non-standards are extremely irritating to read in code as well as in nick completions.19:07
ubottuDaSkreech called the ops in #kubuntu (cisco_ is being fun)19:31
naliothheh19:31
PriceChildHmm?/19:32
PriceChildMez: I've had really odd problems with ide hard drives not working which came down to a faulty power supply.20:14
PriceChildMez: replace the power supply and try the drives again.20:14
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jussi01freqk: is there something we can help you with today?20:58
freqkno, why?20:59
jussi01!idle | freqk20:59
ubottufreqk: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.20:59
jussi01freqk: so again I ask, is there something we can help you with today?21:01
jussi01stupid floodbots...21:11
ubottuIn ubottu, ompaul said: no mikem is factoid lost in the interwebs21:21
NeoGeo64Is it worth it to upgrade?22:09
NeoGeo64i run 8.0422:09
LjLjussi01: what did they do22:36
jussi01LjL: just giggling at them reporting every message they get, including global notices...22:37
LjLthere's no difference at all between a global notice and any notice22:37
LjL"global notice" is just a facility an ircd may provide to send NOTICEs to every connected user22:38
naliothyeah, just /msg * blah blah blah22:42
wgrantAhahah "Yes, it's condescending. There's a reason for that."22:52
LjLnalioth: isn't it /notice * blah blah blah?23:34
naliothLjL: yes, something like that23:35

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