[10:44] <MaWaLe> hi everyone
[10:45] <persia> o/
[10:54] <amachu> persia: Hi
[10:55] <amachu> elkbuntu: TheMuso: lifeless: Hello everybody
[10:55] <TheMuso> Hi folks.
[10:56] <amachu> and no one for today's meeting either...
[11:00] <amachu> hi
[11:01] <amachu> We have CC meeting scheduled today at 21.00 UTC
[11:02] <amachu> every one listening ??
[11:02] <TheMuso> Yes.
[11:02] <Rafik> hello all :)
[11:02] <MaWaLe> yup
[11:02] <Rafik> i'll try to hire one or two candidates for your next meeting ^^
[11:03] <cody-somerville> :)
[11:03] <MaWaLe> hi Rafik
[11:03] <MaWaLe> :)
[11:03] <soren> amachu: Which meeting were you referring to when you said "no one for today's meeting either"?
[11:04] <Rafik> amachu, MaWaLe is currently preparing his membership
[11:04] <amachu> soren: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
[11:05] <soren> amachu: Ah.
[11:05] <Rafik> amachu, is it possible to do his approval now ?
[11:06] <MaWaLe> it'll be so great
[11:06] <amachu> Rafik: Should have registered in advance, I feel
[11:07] <amachu> persia: elkbuntu: TheMuso: lifeless : opinions?
[11:07] <Rafik> amachu, yes I know. When I've seen there was no candidates for today. the idea came to my mind
[11:09] <persia> amachu, opinions?
[11:10] <amachu> persia: on what Rafik asked about taking MaWaLe
[11:10] <soren> persia: Yes. a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter.
[11:10] <soren> :p
[11:11] <amachu> and about the CC meeting, its too late here to present our decisions for me today.
[11:11] <TheMuso> amachu: I don't mind doing someone on the spur of the moment now, but that depends on whether others want to.
[11:11] <persia> Oh.  I'm happy to take more people, although I prefer the page to be prepared in advance.
[11:11] <elkbuntu> i'm here
[11:11] <TheMuso> persia: Agreed.
[11:13] <elkbuntu> persia, i do agree. some of us like to read over candidate pages without the candidate counting the nanoseconds
[11:13] <amachu> I can present it to the Community Council on 18 Nov 08. But can any one of you could do it today?
[11:13] <elkbuntu> amachu, have you scribed to wikipages at all?
[11:13]  * persia tends to read over candidate pages before the meeting
[11:14]  * elkbuntu blinks
[11:14] <elkbuntu> amachu, you're not starting *that* again, are you?
[11:14]  * elkbuntu tickles amachu
[11:14] <amachu> elkbuntu: which wiki pages are you referring?
[11:15] <elkbuntu> amachu, the 'can we have more people' proposal etc
[11:15] <amachu> elkbuntu: I lost the connection for few sec
[11:15] <amachu> elkbuntu: I am saying, today we have CC meeting. But at 21.00 UTC
[11:16] <elkbuntu> i realise this. i also know that the CC likes a wikipage to read over, like we want candidates to document themselves in wikipages.
[11:17] <amachu> We can take up our decisions to CC if any one of you could do it, I said. I am not sure of me taking it with the CC today. But I can definitely take it on 18 Nov
[11:17] <persia> I'd rather do it during our normal meeting time.
[11:18] <amachu> elkbuntu: thats fine. We will take it up to the CC on Nov, 18.
[11:18] <amachu> and I got reply form Belutz which I shared with the group
[11:19] <amachu> zakame is yet to reply. I will try to ping him through other means.
[11:19] <amachu> and anything else which any one of you would like to raise now?
[11:21] <amachu> elkbuntu: persia : TheMuso : lifeless : anything else?
[11:21] <elkbuntu> i'm good.
[11:21] <elkbuntu> MaWaLe, i look forward to seeing your application next week.
[11:21] <TheMuso> I'm fine.
[11:22] <amachu> and how about Intrepid's launch parties around?
[11:22] <MaWaLe> sorry : which week?
[11:22] <persia> I'm good.
[11:22] <amachu> MaWaLe: 11 Nov, 11.00 UTC
[11:22] <Rafik> MaWaLe, you will have the time to work more you wiki page.
[11:23] <MaWaLe> can i hope that the members here take a look to my Wiki page and give me some advices or just evaluate-it :)
[11:24] <amachu> cool! let me call off today's meeting, then.
[11:24] <amachu> Our next meeting, as said will be on 11 Nov 08, 11.00 UTC
[11:25] <amachu> MaWaLe: Hmm.. worth looking to prepare questions based on wiki :-)
[11:25] <amachu> persia: TheMuso : elkbuntu : Thank you for participating!
[11:27] <MaWaLe> okay :so thanks and see you next week
[11:27] <persia> See you next week :)
[11:28] <TheMuso> Till next week.
[11:31] <elkbuntu> right... clean install time
[13:02] <emgent> hello there.
[13:02] <emgent> @schedule rome
[13:21] <zul> @schedule montreal
[15:56] <zul> heylo
[15:57] <ivoks> hi
[15:57]  * mathiaz waves
[15:57] <ivoks> long time no see
[15:57] <sommer> hey all
[15:58]  * nijaba ~
[15:58] <zul> hi ivoks
[15:58]  * soren tips his hat in #ubuntu-meeting's general direction
[15:59]  * nijaba distinguishes a black hat being tipped
[16:00] <mathiaz> allright folks - let's get this started
[16:00] <mathiaz> #startmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is mathiaz.
[16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:01] <mathiaz> Welcome to the first meeting of the Server Team in this new era of jauntyness!
[16:01] <mathiaz> Today's joyfull agenda can be found online at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[16:02] <nijaba> that's a tough agenda we have today
[16:02] <mathiaz> Last week's intrepid minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20081028
[16:02] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Server FAQ
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server FAQ
[16:03] <mathiaz> sommer: nijaba: how are things moving there?
[16:03] <nijaba> I worked a bit on the FAQ today
[16:03] <nijaba> there are about 2/3 of the questions that needs updating
[16:03] <sommer> I did some small updates last week, but it still needs work
[16:03] <nijaba> I have added (needs update) in their title
[16:04] <nijaba> I have also listed a few new questions at the end and a table of content
[16:04] <mathiaz> nijaba: great!
[16:04] <mathiaz> I'll add section to the roadmap covering the ServerFaQ
[16:05] <nijaba> kirkland: could you take care of updating the raid question?
[16:05] <mathiaz> [ACTION] mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap
[16:05] <MootBot> ACTION received:  mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap
[16:05] <kirkland> nijaba: url?
[16:05] <mathiaz> nijaba: is the list of questions to be updated finalized?
[16:05] <nijaba> kirkland: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq
[16:06] <mathiaz> nijaba: ie should we focus on reviewing the answer now?
[16:06] <nijaba> mathiaz: unless some other new questions are added, yes
[16:06] <nijaba> mathiaz: I think we can focus on the answers now, and work on them later if new questions appear
[16:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: ok.
[16:07]  * nijaba thinks that the answer should be made unpersonal
[16:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: are there other specific topics that need input from one of us (like kirkland for raid)
[16:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: ?
[16:08] <nijaba> mathiaz: soem of the question name people asking questions...
[16:08] <kirkland> nijaba: mathiaz: is this something that Launchpad Answers should be used for ?
[16:08] <mathiaz> kirkland: I don't think so. IIUC the FAQ is a generic FAQ
[16:08] <nijaba> mathiaz: not that I can think of, but will ask if sommer or I have pb answering them
[16:09] <nijaba> kirkland: I think it is nice to have a "controlled" page for a FAQ
[16:09] <mathiaz> kirkland: LP answers are more targeted at answering specific questions/user requests.
[16:09] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay
[16:09] <mathiaz> kirkland: moreover AFICT the server team is not using the LP answers.
[16:10] <nijaba> sommer: how do you want to split the work?
[16:10] <mathiaz> kirkland: or at least I don't know of anyone answering LP questions related to server topics.
[16:10] <sommer> nijaba: doesn't matter to me... I can start at the bottom and work up
[16:11] <nijaba> sommer: ok, I'll go the other way then :)
[16:11] <kirkland> mathiaz: k
[16:11] <mathiaz> [ACTION] sommer and nijaba to start updating the answers.
[16:11] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sommer and nijaba to start updating the answers.
[16:11] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to review the RAID related questions
[16:11] <MootBot> ACTION received:  kirkland to review the RAID related questions
[16:11] <mathiaz> nijaba: sommer: anything else on this topic?
[16:12] <nijaba> nope
[16:12] <sommer> nothing from me
[16:12] <mathiaz> ok - anything else regarding last week's minutes?
[16:13] <mathiaz> nope. Let's move on
[16:13] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Ideas for Jaunty
[16:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ideas for Jaunty
[16:13] <mathiaz> As you may have noticed we're preparing for another release of Ubuntu due in six months.
[16:13] <zul> yay!
[16:14] <mathiaz> UDS topics are being worked on.
[16:14] <mathiaz> If you've got new ideas, please add them to the ServerTeam IdeaPool.
[16:14] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/IdeaPool
[16:14] <mathiaz> I've also purged the Roadmap
[16:15] <mathiaz> There are some items which status I don't know.
[16:15] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Integration of SASL and Postfix
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Integration of SASL and Postfix
[16:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: ^?
[16:15] <ivoks> right...
[16:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: is this still something being worked on/considered?
[16:15] <ivoks> i'll propose solutions for this problem in early dev. phase
[16:16] <ivoks> i'll have time next week
[16:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: ok - so it's still on the radar
[16:16] <ivoks> yes
[16:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: great.
[16:16] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Merges
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Merges
[16:16] <mathiaz> As of now, Jaunty is *not* opened.
[16:17] <mathiaz> The basic toolchain and packages are still be worked on.
[16:17] <mathiaz> The archive should probably open sometime this week. By then, we'll go back in merge mode!
[16:18] <soren> \o/
[16:19] <mathiaz> last time around, I was publishing a list of *easy* merges.
[16:19] <mathiaz> I was wondering if that was a good idea
[16:19] <mathiaz> what do other people thing about such a list?
[16:19] <sommer> I think it's a good idea :)
[16:19]  * soren too
[16:20] <ivoks> (don't have strong opinion :)
[16:20] <mathiaz> ok. I'll keep publishing such a list for this cycle then.
[16:20] <mathiaz> well - that's all I have.
[16:20] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open discussion
[16:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open discussion
[16:21]  * mathiaz leaves the floor to crazy ideas
[16:21] <zul> no crazy ideas from me this time
[16:21] <ivoks> accept dbconfig-common as a standard tool for databases :D
[16:21] <mathiaz> zul: you got burned by this whole FB story?
[16:22] <zul> mathiaz: i didnt get any emails about it thankfully :)
[16:22] <mathiaz> ivoks: isn't it already in main?
[16:22] <ivoks> mathiaz: it is, but my question is 'why we don't use it? and why did i remove it from bacula?' :)
[16:22] <zul> because it wasnt it main at the time
[16:22] <ivoks> it wasn't?
[16:23] <ivoks> ok then
[16:23] <ivoks> so, we could just re-merge it back?
[16:23] <zul> ivoks: pretty much
[16:23] <mathiaz> ivoks: probably yes :)
[16:23] <ivoks> praise the lord :)
[16:24] <zul> yes praise him indeed
[16:24] <mathiaz> ivoks: one of the debian devloper may be at UDS
[16:24] <zul> uds or fosscamp?
[16:24] <mathiaz> zul: don't know.
[16:25] <nijaba> mathiaz: do we know who's been invited now?  is there a list somewhere?
[16:25] <mathiaz> nijaba: there is a list *somewhere*. However I don't know where the *somewhere* is...
[16:26] <nijaba> www.perdu.com ?
[16:26] <soren> ?!?
[16:26] <ivoks> lol
[16:26] <sommer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSJaunty/Attendees
[16:27] <soren> "Lost on the Internet" or some such?
[16:27] <nijaba> soren: yes O<--- you are here
[16:27] <ivoks> soren: yes
[16:27] <soren> No, I'm not. I'm over there ---> *
[16:27] <ivoks> soren: don't panic, we're here to help you
[16:27] <ivoks> soren: * <---- you are here
[16:28] <ivoks> oh...
[16:28] <ivoks> :)
[16:28] <mathiaz> sommer: ok. These are mainly ubuntu members.
[16:29] <mathiaz> sommer: some upstream folks have also been invited (to Fooscamp and/or UDS)
[16:29] <ScottK> foos/foss
[16:29] <sommer> ohh, gotcha
[16:29] <ivoks> mathiaz: you'll meet kern, right?
[16:29] <mathiaz> ivoks: probably
[16:30] <ivoks> ok
[16:30] <mathiaz> allright - so I think that's all I have to say for today's meeting
[16:30] <mathiaz> I'll be running a session for OpenWeek in 1:30 hours
[16:31] <mathiaz> in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:31] <mathiaz> ie at 18:00 UTC
[16:31] <nijaba> mathiaz: break a leg
[16:31] <soren> mathiaz: About what?
[16:31] <ivoks> server team?
[16:31] <mathiaz> soren: the server team
[16:31] <ivoks> all right! more PR :D
[16:31] <soren> Awesome :)
[16:31] <mathiaz> what we did for the intrepid cycle and how to get involved
[16:32] <mathiaz> there are tons of other sessions and topics covered the whole week
[16:32] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek has more information
[16:33] <mathiaz> kirkland and soren are also running a session
[16:33] <mathiaz> Anything else to add?
[16:36] <mathiaz> seems not
[16:36] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time
[16:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agree on next meeting date and time
[16:36] <mathiaz> next week, same time, same place?
[16:37] <ivoks> this is better time, yes
[16:37] <sommer> works for me :)
[16:38] <mathiaz> ivoks: better time?
[16:38] <mathiaz> ivoks: it should be the same time as usual (last week being unusual)
[16:39] <ivoks> mathiaz: right - it's the same :D
[16:39] <mathiaz> ok - so see you all next week, same time in here.,
[16:39] <kirkland> adios!
[16:39] <mathiaz> Congratulations for intrepid
[16:39] <mathiaz> and welcome to Jaunty!
[16:39] <kirkland> \o/
[16:39] <sommer> later on all
[16:40] <mathiaz> #endmeeting
[16:40] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:40.
[17:17]  * cking is here
[17:17] <pgraner> Kernel Team Meeting... sorry its starting late google didn't adjust for DST changes *sigh*
[17:18] <smb_tp> DST challenges all of us. :)
[17:18] <pgraner> #startmeeting
[17:18] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:18. The chair is pgraner.
[17:18] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:19] <pgraner> Ok... I think this will be a short meeting since Intrepid just went out....
[17:20] <pgraner> [TOPIC] Post Intrepid Bug Status
[17:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Post Intrepid Bug Status
[17:20] <pgraner> I'm curious to see if we have seen a influx of new bugs?
[17:20] <smb_tp> Not a very high one. Only a few
[17:20] <rtg> I think ogasawara has quite a list of bugs pending against Intrepid.
[17:20] <pgraner> ogasawara: have you seen any any trends?
[17:21] <ogasawara> pgraner: I'm seeing quite a few reports with patches
[17:21] <pgraner> ogasawara: thats always nice
[17:21] <ogasawara> pgraner: I've been milestoning them
[17:21] <ogasawara> pgraner: most are simple fixes
[17:21] <rtg> as soon as I get a -security kernel done I'm gonna start griding through the SRU patches.
[17:21] <pgraner> ogasawara: I've noticed a bunch with "special keys", brightness etc...
[17:22] <ogasawara> pgraner: yah, just was one about that too - bug 285323
[17:22] <ogasawara> that one has a patch though in upstream that we just need to pull
[17:23] <pgraner> Since I'm rather new, how does this compare with post Hardy, same time?
[17:23] <ogasawara> pgraner: post hardy I didn't see as many of these simple patches coming in post release
[17:24] <ogasawara> pgraner: but I think that had something to do with Hardy being LTS so more people were testing the alpha's/beta's
[17:24] <pgraner> ogasawara: ok...
[17:25] <pgraner> [TOPIC] Intrepid Update/Security Kernel
[17:25] <MootBot> New Topic:  Intrepid Update/Security Kernel
[17:25] <ogasawara> pgraner: I'm going to try and gather some actual bug stats so will post it to the ml
[17:25] <pgraner> smb_tp: Whats the plan?
[17:25] <smb_tp> I am not sure if Tim jumped on it but otherwise I would take care that we have a security upadte
[17:26] <smb_tp> for intrepid kernel + hardy and gutsy lum
[17:26] <rtg> I'm working on the Intrepid -security update
[17:26] <smb_tp> working on that tonight
[17:26] <pgraner> smb_tp: whats the target for getting that out?
[17:26] <smb_tp> After that I guess we should tackle the proposed updates for hardy and gutsy lum and hardy kernel
[17:27] <smb_tp> I'd have to speak with kees on that but I would like to see it rather sooner than later.
[17:28] <pgraner> smb_tp: I'd like to get dates set so we know what the cut off is, mostly for the updates kernel. Can you propose dates for both security and updates?
[17:28] <smb_tp> pgraner, maybe I can convince him for an upload next Monday
[17:29] <pgraner> smb_tp: I'm not hung up on the date as long as we have one
[17:29] <smb_tp> pgraner, (that would be for security) and then the proposed a week later
[17:29] <smb_tp> pgraner, so Nov 10 and 17
[17:29] <pgraner> [ACTION] smb_tp to set/publish dates for security and updates kernel for affected releases
[17:29] <MootBot> ACTION received:  smb_tp to set/publish dates for security and updates kernel for affected releases
[17:30] <pgraner> Anyone see issues or have objections for the 10 & 17th?
[17:31] <pgraner> smb_tp: Ok then the 10th and 17th it is.
[17:31] <smb_tp> pgraner, ack
[17:31] <pgraner> [ACTON] Security kernel upload by 10 Nov, updates kernel upload by 17th
[17:32] <pgraner> [ACTiON] Security kernel upload by 10 Nov, updates kernel upload by 17th
[17:32] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Security kernel upload by 10 Nov, updates kernel upload by 17th
[17:32] <pgraner> [TOPIC] RFC - RFC: Stable kernel updates and the SRU process (rtg)
[17:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  RFC - RFC: Stable kernel updates and the SRU process (rtg)
[17:32] <rtg> workin' on 'em
[17:32] <smb_tp> I included this in the wiki page as well. Obviously I am for it
[17:33] <pgraner> rtg: based on the feedback on the RFC, you propose any changes?
[17:33] <rtg> pgraner: please tell what constructive feedback I received, other then complaints about process?
[17:34] <rtg> as far as I can tell, the only concern is regressions.
[17:34] <smb_tp> rtg, Take it as constructive feedback. :)
[17:34] <rtg> so, I plan to examine each patch and do my job, which is to evaluate them on their own merits.
[17:35] <pgraner> rtg: sorry I went back to revisit the thread
[17:35] <amitk> rtg: so it would not be a blanket update to the latest stable?
[17:35] <rtg> amitk: nope, I'm gonna write an SRU for each one.
[17:35] <pgraner> rtg: I understood it to be a complete update not selective
[17:36] <amitk> rtg: !!
[17:36] <smb_tp> pgraner, from the comments it seemed that some wanted to blame selecive bugs if something fails
[17:36] <smb_tp> But I also took it that we take everything
[17:36] <rtg> there'll be a bunch for the first -proposed kernel (approx 40 I think)
[17:37] <amitk> rtg: honestly I feel that writing 40 SRUs in LP will not scale
[17:37] <pgraner> rtg: I'm in favor of keeping as close to the upstream source as possible, however the SRU process was not designed for that type of volume
[17:37] <rtg> amitk: well, it on'y happens once early in the cycle. stable updates slow way down pretty quickly.
[17:37] <smb_tp> maybe ogasawara can help s with some script magic...
[17:38] <ogasawara> smb_tp: yup, I think I can probably help whip up a script to automate it
[17:39] <pgraner> rtg: would that work for you?
[17:39] <amitk> rtg: besides, you will have to 'invent' reasons you want to apply the patch.
[17:39] <rtg> some automation wuold help, for sure.
[17:39] <smb_tp> amitk, would not be "is in the stable kernel" be reason enaough
[17:40] <amitk> smb_tp: then what is the point of 40 bug reports each stating "is in the stable kernel"
[17:40] <rtg> amitk: pitti wants them for regression tracking.
[17:40] <smb_tp> amitk, IIRC it came from heno because (in case of regression) they wanted to have seperate record
[17:41] <rtg> ogasawara: so, are you gonna experiment with creating SRUs for stable updates?
[17:41] <pgraner> rtg, ogasawara: lets see what we can automate and go from there?
[17:42] <ogasawara> rtg: yup, I'll email when I've got something
[17:42] <rtg> works for me
[17:42] <pgraner> [ACTION] ogasawara to work with rtg on automating the RFC: Stable kernel updates and the SRU process
[17:42] <MootBot> ACTION received:  ogasawara to work with rtg on automating the RFC: Stable kernel updates and the SRU process
[17:43] <smb_tp> Ok, pitti (remembered wrong). Guess this would be a good compromise
[17:43] <pgraner> [TOPIC] UDS Status & Prep
[17:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  UDS Status & Prep
[17:43] <pgraner> Now that the release is out, I've got a ton of UDS actions to get out this week.
[17:44] <pgraner> There have been initial meetings that started Fri and have continued on this week about various cross team initiatives
[17:45] <pgraner> My email to the mailing list will have the mins from those meetings (they are all on wiki.u.c) and agendas with proposed dates for the tracks
[17:45] <pgraner> I'm still waiting on two more meetings to happen this week then I'll get the data together and post it
[17:46] <pgraner> thats about it so far... questions?
[17:46] <pgraner> Then we'll keep moving
[17:46] <pgraner> [TOPIC] Open discussion/Roundtable
[17:46] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open discussion/Roundtable
[17:46] <pgraner> Any one have anything they want to add before we go into roundtable?
[17:47] <amitk> pgraner: community invites to UDS done?
[17:47] <pgraner> amitk: Yes, I've been given a link to the list, but I didn't have perms to see it, I should be able to see shortly
[17:48] <pgraner> amitk: they did the initial round of invites and there were declines, and they sent out the 2nd round of invites based on the new openings, but thats all I know right now
[17:49] <pgraner> On to roundtable then...
[17:49] <pgraner> I am still recovering from being ill, so I'm a bit behind on things, so I'll be catching up. Other than that nothing other than biz as usual for me
[17:50] <pgraner> rtg: Whats going on in your world?
[17:50] <rtg> SRUs up the wazzoo, lots of wirelsss LBM work.
[17:50] <rtg> uploaded an LBM yesterday.
[17:50] <rtg> working on Intrepid -security update today, then back to SRUs
[17:51] <rtg> full stop.
[17:51] <pgraner> rtg: thanks
[17:51] <pgraner> BenC is out ill today, so we will move on to amitk
[17:51] <pgraner> amitk: whats up?
[17:52] <amitk> Been doing Hardy SRUs for LPIA mostly
[17:52] <amitk> stop
[17:52] <pgraner> amitk: great, thx
[17:53] <pgraner> smb_tp: go...
[17:53] <smb_tp> ok then
[17:53] <smb_tp> moved across the atlantic. trying to work out the pending updates for hardy and gutsy
[17:53] <smb_tp> made intrepid ports for ia64  compiling
[17:53] <smb_tp> thats about it
[17:54] <pgraner> smb_tp: thanks
[17:54] <pgraner> cking: you're next
[17:54] <cking> OEM bug squishing (BIOS reboot/suspend resume and audio) and Thurs/Friday I will be attending Embedded Linux Conference
[17:54]  * ogra waves to cking 
[17:54] <rtg> cking has been wearing out SSDs
[17:54] <ogra> :)
[17:55] <cking> and I knackered a SSD doing ISO testing :-)
[17:55] <pgraner> rtg: didn't he kill that SATA drive not to long ago?
[17:55] <cking> stop
[17:55] <cking> ..that was dead on arrival.
[17:55] <rtg> pgraner: yep - he's hard on things. no more toys for Colin
[17:55]  * pgraner renames cking to cking_drive-killer
[17:55] <cking> :^)
[17:55] <pgraner> lieb: whats up?
[17:57] <rtg> pgraner: maybe he's napping?
[17:57] <pgraner> we'll looks like we are missing lieb and sconklin... so I'll call it meeting end.
[17:57] <pgraner> #endmeeting
[17:57] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:57.
[18:00] <lieb> I'm here, just was looking aty the other screen...
[21:11] <nealmcb> Hmm - I guess there is no Community Council Meeting - scheduled to start 10 minutes ago:     Start: 2008-11-04 21:00 End: 2008-11-04 23:00 Timezone: Etc/GMT Location: #ubuntu-meeting The agenda still says The next meeting is scheduled for 21 October 2008, 11:00 UTC ....  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[21:14] <cody-somerville> hmmm