[00:00] <fta> rgreening, [Mon 21:56] <fta> rgreening, ok, sure. i need to work on the merge of the packaging 1st
[00:00] <fta> by merge, i meant convergence
[00:01] <rgreening> fta: cool. Well, let me know when I can be of assistance. :)
[00:05] <fta> rgreening, sure
[00:09] <asac_> [reed]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67028/ ... maybe that is enough for your openvpn connection?
[00:09] <asac_> i checked the other parameters and they seem ok
[00:10]  * asac_ wonders how to get something like that into gconf
[00:11] <[reed]> want me to send you some %gconf.xml files?
[00:11] <asac_> good question ;)
[00:11] <asac_> just a snippet?
[00:12] <[reed]> I can tarball up my entire ~/.gconf/system/networking/vpn_connections directory if it helps
[00:12] <[reed]> as long as you don't post it anywhere public :)
[00:12] <asac_> [reed]: no i think just two would be enough
[00:12] <asac_> e.g. one openvpn thing and the vpnc maybe
[00:12] <[reed]> ok
[00:13] <asac> [reed]: the wireless settings were not migrated either?
[00:13] <[reed]> I see two
[00:14] <[reed]> so, it migrated two... out of how many, I dunno
[00:14]  * [reed] looks
[00:14] <[reed]> two out of 29
[00:14] <asac> hah
[00:14] <asac> [reed]: did you create the two afterwards?
[00:14] <[reed]> nope
[00:14] <[reed]> this laptop is wired
[00:14] <[reed]> so, haven't touched wireless setting
[00:14] <[reed]> s
[00:15] <asac> ok. at least this indicates the the migration code is run
[00:15] <asac> which is a good thing on its own :)
[00:15]  * asac thinks positive
[00:15] <[reed]> lol
[00:15] <[reed]> so, you want vpnc, openvpn, and one of my wireless networks that failed?
[00:16] <asac> [reed]: if there is a line for the wireless that would be good
[00:16] <asac> [reed]: maybe you see the difference?
[00:16] <asac> are those of different type? have different fields?
[00:18]  * asac [reed] see any difference when looking into two?
[00:18] <asac> oops ;)
[00:31] <fta> [reed], my ff3.1 is using ~30% cpu even when idle :(
[00:31] <fta> [reed], still nothing to identify which tab is the pig?
[00:53] <asac> i opened a huge mxr source page and it made 3.1 freeze ;)
[00:54] <asac> for about 20 seconds
[00:57] <fta> bad firefox
[00:57] <fta> use chrome ;)
[00:57] <jcastro> fta: did you port chrome yet?
[00:57] <jcastro> get on that!
[00:57] <fta> lol
[00:59] <fta> jcastro, is there some activity on the debian side regarding chromium?
[00:59] <jcastro> fta: not afaik
[00:59] <jcastro> I am unsure
[01:07] <fta> asac, \o/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/67047/
[01:10] <asac> fta: cool
[01:10] <asac> fta: thats relief i guess ;)
[01:12] <fta> yep, it was about time
[01:13] <fta> maybe it will load faster
[01:49] <fta> finally, i've updated seamonkey-2.0 to hg/comm-central
[11:38]  * gnomefreak seeing alot of lock ups with tbird-3 :(
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ill be around for a bit while i set up everything
[11:56] <gnomefreak> does sunbird work for anyone?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> 0.8
[11:57] <gnomefreak> seems i cant add a calendar at all
[11:57] <asac> hi
[11:57] <gnomefreak> hi
[11:59] <asac> gnomefreak: works for me afaict
[11:59] <gnomefreak> remote caalendar works?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> im gonna try MT version
[12:04] <asac> which remote service?
[12:04] <asac> google doesnt work afaik
[12:05] <gnomefreak> asac: fridge.ubuntu.com events but MT version is working but the one in intrepid didnt work
[12:06] <gnomefreak> i removed the dir in $HOME/../.mozill
[12:21] <asac> gnomefreak: whats the difference of MT vs. intrepid version?
[12:21] <asac> isnt that the same branch?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> asac: i thought so but one works and one doesnt atleast here
[12:22] <asac> gnomefreak: could you check the version string for differences?
[12:22] <asac> also do a debdiff on the sources to compare please
[12:22] <gnomefreak> asac: the diffs are in the PPAs
[12:24] <gnomefreak> my PPA is the one in intrepid although i built it for hardy. but i will try intrepids again maybe i just need new profile
[12:24] <asac> hardy stuff is outdated afaik
[12:29] <gnomefreak> once released in intrepid we didnt change anything so it should be the same other than the latest changelog
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ill be back. once you release 0.9 back to me i have a few things i would like to test than i can relelase it to hardy intrepid in the PPA
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ill be back this is a pain in the ass :( im making new bookmark file by merging firefoxes into flock so i can save flocks and add it to ff and friends
[12:41] <gnomefreak> we still never changed the icon for it
[12:49] <asac> gnomefreak: oh ... so i am suposed to deal with sunbird 0.9 ;)
[12:49] <asac> gtk ;)
[12:49] <asac> but yeah. i hope its easy to do and debian also wants this stuff
[12:49] <gnomefreak> yep remember there was the timezone issue you wanted to hack
[12:49] <asac> timezone issue? ah ...yeah
[12:49] <asac> gnomefreak: now i remember ;)
[12:49] <asac> gnomefreak: so you started on 0.9 branch already right?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> as far as the icon IIRC you changed it but never changed it in .desktop file
[12:50] <asac> gnomefreak: si that in your code repo?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> asac: yep i have
[12:50] <gnomefreak> hold on ill get it
[12:50] <asac> cool
[12:51] <gnomefreak> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x asac
[12:51] <asac> gnomefreak: ok cool
[12:51] <asac> gnomefreak: so it works in general, except that the timeszon stuff is missing right?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> asac: no it installs but you cant do anything with it due to the timezone crap
[12:52] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. but it builds ;)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> yep sure does
[12:53] <asac> gnomefreak: do we use the compare.mk stuff from fta ?
[12:53] <asac> e.g. to get info in case files that are in dist/ are not installed in binary tree
[12:53] <asac> i think we should add that
[12:53] <gnomefreak> i dont think so, adding that sounds fine to me
[12:53] <gnomefreak> i havent looked at that since this is first im hearing about it
[12:54] <asac> sure
[12:54] <asac> not even sure if it works out of box
[12:54] <asac> if not we should see if we can fix that
[12:55]  * gnomefreak thinks people have gone nuts, wanting LP to ask gender when signing the COC to make sure the name is ok in spanish
[12:55] <gnomefreak> asac: do you have it handy so i can look at it
[12:56] <gnomefreak> maybe i have seen it now that i think of it
[12:57] <asac> its just one inlude in rules
[12:57] <asac> xul has it
[12:57] <asac> ffox probsbly too
[12:58] <gnomefreak> yeah i think i remember seeing it
[12:59] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm ... seems to be not a distinct include
[12:59] <asac> but something that gets pulled in by include /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/$(DEB_MOZ_APPLICATION).mk
[12:59] <asac> most likely
[12:59] <asac> lets check with fta before pursuing this
[12:59] <gnomefreak> k
[13:01] <gnomefreak> i have dapper release schedule bookmarked still :(
[13:01] <asac> gnomefreak: when is next dapper release?
[13:01] <asac>  :)
[13:01] <gnomefreak> :)
[13:02] <greg> Hello guys, hope i'm not interupting
[13:02] <asac> greg: you interrupt the slicense ;)
[13:02] <asac> silence ;)
[13:02] <asac> hehe
[13:03] <greg> I wanted to lurk while i work through https://wiki.edubuntu.org/MozillaTeam/XulApps/Packaging
[13:09] <asac> greg: welcome
[13:09] <asac> greg: any specific xulapp you are looking at
[13:09] <asac> ?
[13:09] <greg> Thanks asac.
[13:09] <asac> greg: or just in general?
[13:10] <greg> Yup, I'm trying to get my http://aliwal.googlecode.com packaged
[13:11] <asac> cool.
[13:11] <asac> greg: is that a xul app that has its own native componentns?
[13:12] <asac> or just chrome code?
[13:12] <asac> and javascript components obviously ;)
[13:12] <greg> It's all chrome. A thin XUL wrapper around two HTML pages really
[13:12] <asac> greg: should be quite easy then
[13:13] <asac> greg: i think most parts of that page are overkill for you then
[13:13] <asac> greg: how do they ship their sources? do they have a build system?
[13:14] <greg> it's an ant build process. I ripped of the prism packaging so a starting point and now have a .orig.tar.gz
[13:14] <asac> greg: what does it produce? e.g. the ant thing?
[13:15] <gnomefreak> i seemed to have lost seamonkey-2 i cant find it in repos
[13:15] <asac> just a tree with a xulapp?
[13:15] <asac> or a jar or something?
[13:15]  * asac not even source if xulapps can be deplyoed as a jar
[13:15] <asac> anyway ... moving to a different place nowö.
[13:15] <asac> bbiw
[13:16] <greg> yes, a directory tree with an application.ini
[13:17] <asac> greg: ok that should be easy then
[13:18] <greg> An examples I could follow? debian/control etc is giving me a hard time
[13:18] <asac> greg: we should wait for fta ... he wrote the instrucitons on the wiki
[13:18] <gnomefreak> asac: btw can you give me an idea where in upstream mozilla bugs i can watch/follow you? i was unablet o find it
[13:19] <asac> greg: its best when he is here so we can address the issues identified with the wiki page directly
[13:19] <asac> greg: debian control should be similar to prism i guess
[13:19] <asac> just that you dont need all the "app" packages
[13:19] <asac> just the main package one
[13:20] <gnomefreak> is there an extension or an Xul packaged app?
[13:20] <asac> ok moving for real ;)
[13:20] <greg> Sorry, no mozilla bug. Ta though, will keep an eye out for fta
[13:34] <gnomefreak> damn forgot :(
[13:41] <gnomefreak> sunbird bug seems to be a profile one. new profile fixed it
[14:04] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm
[14:05] <asac> gnomefreak: so unreproducible ... bad
[14:05] <asac> gnomefreak: still have the other profile?
[14:05] <gnomefreak> nope
[14:06] <gnomefreak> it was just me i figure so im not too concerned with it
[14:13]  * gnomefreak off for a bit
[16:19] <asac> @time
[16:49] <fta2> greg, asac: i don't have time right now but my tutorial could sure be improved. I've packaged as xulapps prism (>= 0.9.1), fennec (1.0), xul-explorer and instantbird since i wrote that tutorial so things are definitely better and i should be able to make the workflow easier.
[16:49] <fta2> btw, all those packages are in branches on lp, and in my ppa, if you care to have a look
[16:49] <greg> Hello mate, thanks for dropping by
[16:50] <greg> I think i'm making progress through sheer dumb luck at the moment
[16:50] <greg> XULExplorer sounds like an idea example
[16:51] <greg> I had a dig for it ealier but came up empty handed. Is it available in a PPA or somewhere ?
[16:51] <fta2> it is
[16:52] <fta2> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xul-explorer/xul-explorer.head
[16:55] <fta2> that package is clean, it uses the full thing: cdbs, quilt and mozilla-devscripts (for mozclient so it does the tarball for you, and xulapps)
[16:56] <fta2> i have to go now. let me know if you have issues understanding it
[17:05] <greg> Superb! Thanks I'll let you know how I get on.
[20:40] <stevel> fta: songbird 1.0rc1 is ready: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2008/11/04/songbird-10-release-candidate-1-is-available-for-testing/
[20:49] <stevel> (but not tagged yet i don't think)
[20:52] <fta> hi
[20:53] <fta> stevel, i need a tag to create the proper tarball :(
[20:57] <asac> isnt that svn?
[20:57] <asac> fta: ?
[20:57] <fta> asac, it is
[20:57] <asac> fta: revision number snapshot then ;)
[20:58] <fta> svn tags are a bit special, kind of frozen branches
[20:58] <fta> foo/trunk  => foo/tags/my_tag
[20:59] <fta> there's not guaranty that foo/tags/my_tag comes from trunk, it could be from a sub branch, which i suspect is true for sb
[20:59] <asac> fta: well. you can still pick a revision number there
[20:59] <asac> fta: technically they are just branches
[21:00] <fta> a tag in svn is just a copy
[21:00] <asac> yes
[21:00] <asac> fta: anyway. if you say you dont know how to get the RC sourcen then i agree
[21:00] <asac> thought you said you couldnt release a revision number as a RC1 ;)
[21:00] <fta> but they have a branch for 1.0, while trunk is already 1.1.0pre
[21:00] <asac> yeah. you could just pick a revision from 1.0 branch then
[21:01] <fta> sure but i need to update my get-orig-source rule, while i already support proper tags
[21:01] <asac> ok ;)
[21:01] <fta> this tarball is quite complex :(
[21:02] <asac> i understand that
[21:02] <fta> xul, taglib in addition to sn
[21:02] <asac> i wouldnt put effort into that either ;)
[21:02] <fta> sb
[21:02] <asac> but wait for real release if nothing happens
[21:03] <fta> i hope stevel could motivate preed to create that RC1 tag ;)
[21:11] <asac> yeah that would be the best option ;)
[21:12] <asac> lol https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/217211/comments/6
[21:13] <asac> at least some fun when reading bugs
[22:20] <fta> [reed], when is 1.9.1b2 due ?
[22:21] <[reed]> freeze is tonight
[22:21] <[reed]> I think another couple of weeks
[22:21] <fta> oh, great