[12:13] <Tumie> hi :D
[13:45] <boredandblogging> Tumie: hi
[13:45] <Tumie> whoehoew,, :p
[13:45] <Tumie> almost done with the importent things of the translation
[13:46] <Tumie> so, then the pressure isn't their anymore :p
[13:49] <boredandblogging> good
[13:50] <Tumie> archives and feed, don't exist for the dutch publication,
[13:50] <Tumie> maybe i make a feed, (later).. but now it's not needed
[14:04] <mathiaz> hi! The Ubuntu Server Team meeting has been moved by 1 hour to Tuesday at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. Could the fridge calendar be updated?
[14:21] <boredandblogging> mathiaz: permanently or just today?
[14:21] <mathiaz> boredandblogging: permanently
[14:21] <boredandblogging> mathiaz: ok, I'll make the change
[14:22] <mathiaz> boredandblogging: thank you!
[15:11] <tyche> MTecknology: Now, what's the information, and wait a second while I bring it up.  Hee hee
[15:12] <MTecknology> I had somebody tell me I can use fridge.ubuntu.com to schedule meetings for my team. How do I go about getting this access?
[15:12] <MTecknology> oh
[15:12] <MTecknology> lol
[15:12] <tyche> OK, I'm in where I can enter the information.
[15:12] <MTecknology> tyche: Is there any way I can have my own calendar?
[15:13] <MTecknology> Right now I have a meeting scheduled for 18:00-19:00 on the 14th
[15:13] <tyche> The best way is to use a Google calendar.  No, it doesn't mesh with the Fridge Events calendar, unfortunately.  But that way you could control it for the team, and make your own entries.
[15:14] <tyche> OK, November 14 doesn't show anything, right now.  Let me bring up an event entry and I'll enter it.
[15:14] <MTecknology> I was looking for something that I can use my webcal plugin. But it only accepts the format for the frigde
[15:15] <tyche> That would take special permission from the administrators of the Fridge.
[15:16] <tyche> The times are in UTC?
[15:16] <MTecknology> no
[15:16] <MTecknology> idk the utc equiv - i think it's just +5
[15:17] <tyche> That would be Nov 14 at 23:00 UTC to nov15 at 00:00
[15:17] <tyche> Utc
[15:17] <tyche> Meeting name?
[15:18] <MTecknology> It's just a random meeting to talk about a roadmap, activities, memberships, faq's, blah
[15:19] <tyche> BTW, I got access simply because I'm getting all the recurring events moved from the Google calendar into the fridge.  Fridge doesn't handle recurring events, yet.
[15:19] <tyche> What group?
[15:19] <MTecknology> sd
[15:19] <tyche> South Dakota LoCo Team Meeting?
[15:19] <tyche> And would this be a recurring event?
[15:20] <MTecknology> yes/no
[15:20] <MTecknology> I still plan on using meeting in my channel though
[15:20] <tyche> Great.  2 more questions.  1.  What channel will this be held in?  2.  Do you have a link to an agenda?
[15:21] <MTecknology> #ubuntu-us-sd
[15:21] <MTecknology> http://loco.profarius.com/content/irc-meeting-num001
[15:21] <tyche> OK, take a look at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1711 and see if I've put everything in right.
[15:22] <MTecknology> lol - is that the events module?
[15:23] <tyche> That's the page you get when you click on the event in the calendar
[15:23] <tyche> The calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[15:23] <MTecknology> i mean the events module for drupal
[15:24] <tyche> What I just showed you is the information I use (or WE use) for the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter.  And yes, that's the event module, as far as I know.
[15:24] <MTecknology> do you know what version of drupal the site uses?
[15:24] <tyche> Had you said it was a recurring event, i would have noted it under the agenda, then gone to the Google calendar we maintain and entered it there.
[15:25] <tyche> No, I'm afraid I don't
[15:25] <MTecknology> no, it's not
[15:25] <tyche> Now you know why all the questions I asked.
[15:25] <MTecknology> yup
[15:26] <tyche> We try to supply as much information as we can in the UWN.  This problem of no recurring events in the Fridge calendar has me doing double duty.  Ah, well, it keeps me off the streets.  Hee hee
[15:26] <MTecknology> ya, there's a module for drupal that does it - but getting it to work wouldn't be worth it
[15:27] <tyche> They won't install it.  Supposedly there's a security problem with it.
[15:27] <MTecknology> oh
[15:28] <tyche> We're campaigning to get the events calendar moved to the Google calendar, to avoid half the work.  That's because we're lazy.  Hee hee
[15:28] <MTecknology> lol
[15:28] <MTecknology> could be interesting
[15:29] <MTecknology> maybe it would allow the webcal plugin to not be a complete hack
[15:29] <tyche> Well, with the Google calendar it's easy to enter recurring events
[15:30] <tyche> If this is something that is primarily for just your team, you might want to look into it for them.
[15:30] <MTecknology> I kinda like the events module, I don't have anything that recurs
[15:31] <tyche> We've looked into it for the AZ team, but there's nothing but the standard Team meeting and an occasional install fest or release party which is well documented in the Team newsletter (that I also put out)
[15:32] <tyche> See what happens when you retire?  People come out of the woodwork and find jobs for you to do.  LOL
[15:32] <MTecknology> when i retire?
[15:32] <MTecknology> It's a long time before I retire anything :P
[15:33] <tyche> Yea, but I hit the point last year.  Within a month of joining the AZ team I was made Team scribe, then shanghaied into the UWN
[15:33] <tyche> Our team leader is a master manipulator.  Hee hee
[15:34] <MTecknology> I'm the team leader now
[15:34] <tyche> His favorite expression is, "Here, little fishie"
[15:34] <MTecknology> The guy that was managing the team lost interest so I'm trying to bring it all back to life
[15:34] <MTecknology> or - to life to begin with
[15:36] <tyche> I wish you the best with that.  Feel free to bop into the #ubuntu-us-az channel for information.  johnc4510 is the team leader, and very helpful.  Or go to #ubuntu-us, which has people that are mentors (among others).
[15:36] <MTecknology> alrighty
[15:36] <tyche> And if there's anything on our wiki that would help you, feel free to use it.
[15:36] <tyche> We BELIEVE in sharing.
[15:36] <MTecknology> I've been leaning on -us quite a bit lately
[15:37] <tyche> I know.  I've seen you in there.
[15:37] <MTecknology> ya
[15:37] <MTecknology> I'll pop back in there
[15:37] <tyche> And don't be afraid to ask johnc4510 or Nick Ali (boredandblogging) or I to enter stuff in the events calendar for you.
[15:38] <tyche> Since we have a direct interest in getting the information right for the UWN, we're happy to help.
[16:06] <boredandblogging> tyche: he should be able to add events himself
[16:06] <boredandblogging> tell him to join the LP team
[16:06] <boredandblogging> that should give him Fridge access
[16:13] <boredandblogging> no Rinchen?
[16:14] <tyche> I haven't seen him in a couple of days.
[16:15] <boredandblogging> beuno: ping
[16:15] <beuno> boredandblogging, pong
[16:16] <boredandblogging> is ubuntu-fridge set up so that no one can apply to it?
[16:16] <boredandblogging> to join
[16:17] <beuno> boredandblogging, yeap
[16:17] <beuno> only admins can add people to it
[16:17] <boredandblogging> can we change that? we want people to apply so they can get fridge access
[16:18] <beuno> boredandblogging, well, up to now, we've been discussing proposed members before we approve them
[16:18] <beuno> are we changing that?
[16:20] <boredandblogging> we have to, if we want people adding their own events to the calendar and submitting content
[16:20] <boredandblogging> is it possible for someone to apply but not automatically be approved?
[16:20] <beuno> yeap
[16:21] <boredandblogging> think we need to be in that state
[16:21] <beuno> I think I can change that
[16:21] <beuno> done
[16:21] <boredandblogging> cool
[16:22] <boredandblogging> beuno: can you approve MTecknology?
[16:23] <beuno> boredandblogging, yeap, done
[16:23] <boredandblogging> beuno: thanks
[16:23] <beuno> :)
[16:23] <beuno> boredandblogging, btw, you're going to UDS, right?
[16:24] <boredandblogging> beuno: yes
[16:24] <beuno> boredandblogging, cool, so am I
[16:24] <beuno> we'll finally meet!
[16:25] <boredandblogging> awesome!
[16:25] <MTecknology> Hi
[16:25] <boredandblogging> MTecknology: try going to fridge.ubuntu.com now
[16:25] <boredandblogging> and hit the login button
[16:25] <MTecknology> yup - logged it
[16:25] <MTecknology> in*
[16:25] <MTecknology> nice
[16:25] <boredandblogging> tyche: you wanna walk him through creating an event?
[16:25] <MTecknology> I'm looking at where it's at
[16:25] <MTecknology> I assume use UTC, don't overlap
[16:26] <tyche> Sure.  I just got  back in.
[16:26] <boredandblogging> MTecknology: correct
[16:26] <MTecknology> or can I just use US/Central?
[16:26] <MTecknology> so... now that I know how to do that...
[16:27] <MTecknology> nope nvm - I see why using UTC only is best
[16:27] <tyche> MTecknology: On the left hand side, you'll see your nick or name, and a bunch of links, like administer, contribute, about, and such.  Below that is upcoming events, at the bottom of which is a "more" link to get to the calendar.
[16:27] <boredandblogging> no, use UTC
[16:28] <MTecknology> How the heck do I do that with my drupal site
[16:28] <tyche> The calendar gives you the ability to see if what you want to enter is already there, and/or if you're going to conflict with another meeting/time in the same channel.
[16:28] <MTecknology> so login uses LP in that same way
[16:29] <tyche> LP just is used to log you into the site as an editor.
[16:29] <MTecknology> right
[16:30] <tyche> So, to create an event, go to the Contribute link (above) and click on that.
[16:30] <MTecknology> but I'd love to be able to do that with my site. Considering how I did my site, I think it would be awesome
[16:30] <MTecknology> tyche: yup - I found when I got in here - it's familiar to me ;)
[16:30] <tyche> That brings you to a page with the types of contribution you want to make.
[16:30] <tyche> Event is the one you want.
[16:31] <MTecknology> how do I link things together between drupal and launchpad with openid?
[16:31] <tyche> If you're familiar with the events module, then the only thing I'll add to your information is some of the stuff that we use for the UWN (DON'T make me find you.  Hee hee)
[16:32] <MTecknology> ok
[16:32] <tyche> That would probably do it.  But Launchpad uses it's own OpenID
[16:32] <tyche> In the body, put: "Location:  IRC channel [name of channel]
[16:33] <tyche> Under that, put: "Agenda: [link to agenda]"
[16:33] <tyche> That gives us the rest of the information we need.
[16:33] <MTecknology> alrighty - I'll just be copying what you did for me :)
[16:33] <tyche> Pretty much so.
[16:33] <MTecknology> Is the module canonical uses for drupal to log in using LP public or private?
[16:34] <tyche> I don't know.  beuno might know, or boredandblogging.
[16:34] <beuno> MTecknology, standard drupal
[16:34] <MTecknology> beuno: the openid login built into drupal?
[16:34] <tyche> Drupal should have a login function of its own
[16:35] <MTecknology> ya
[16:35] <beuno> MTecknology, yeap, openid as well
[16:35] <MTecknology> tyche: it can also do an openid login - I was just looking for something with openid
[16:35] <MTecknology> s/with openid/that mimics the fridge
[16:36] <beuno> MTecknology, the only magic we have, is the Launchpad teams
[16:36] <MTecknology> alrighty
[16:36] <beuno> which give us permission control, etc
[16:37] <MTecknology> so you have a different group for each level of control?
[16:37] <beuno> you could
[16:37] <beuno> not sure what we have  :p
[16:38] <MTecknology> I'm just trying to figure out how you have the OpenID module use that LP group
[16:39] <MTecknology> That's just really cool so that's what I'm looking into
[16:42] <MTecknology> ya... I setup openID on my site and I still can't make it do that way
[16:42] <MTecknology> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node?destination=node
[16:42] <MTecknology> then that pops over to https://login.launchpad.net/+openid
[16:44] <MTecknology> class ove - brb
[16:45] <tyche> MTecknology: Make sure you log out of the Fridge when ever you leave it.
[16:47] <MTecknology> yup
[16:49] <MTecknology> Google doesn't seem to have much on that subject either
[16:51] <MTecknology> https://login.launchpad.net/+decide there we go - I need to figure out how to submit something to that
[16:54] <MTecknology> Did my user account on the fridge need to be manually created adn then linked back to my lp id?
[16:55] <boredandblogging> MTecknology: its all automagical
[16:56] <MTecknology> how does it work?
[16:56] <boredandblogging> no clue, there are docs somewhere
[16:56] <MTecknology> I've been trying to find something
[16:58] <MTecknology> It seems for how I'm planning on using it - I need to form some input for +decide and it will pretty much handle the rest
[17:02] <MTecknology> Sorry, I'll shutup
[17:04] <tyche> MTecknology: You're so far beyond me that I'm speechless.  And you can ask anybody.  For that to happen is extremely unusual.  Hee hee
[17:04] <MTecknology> :P
[17:04] <MTecknology> I'm using curl to read that page before redirect
[17:04] <tyche> But then, that's why I tell everyone that I'm a perpetual n00bie.  LOL
[17:05] <MTecknology> lol
[17:05] <MTecknology> I'll just consider myself that and make myself feel smarted
[17:06] <tyche> LOL
[17:11] <MTecknology> grrrr
[17:11] <MTecknology> This module I have lets me pop things out but limits me to 500 chars
[17:15] <Tumie> boredandblogging: i've got the dutch translation,
[17:15] <Tumie> http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/uwn/115
[17:16] <Tumie> i check the last things, then publish it on wiki.ubuntu.com
[17:20] <boredandblogging> Tumie: excellent!
[17:20] <boredandblogging> good work
[17:20] <tyche> boredandblogging: The man's FAST!
[17:21] <boredandblogging> yeah
[17:21] <Tumie> it is not the full issue, but allmost all "in the press" ,, is english,, and i checked if ubuntu was in the press in dutch.. but no...
[17:22] <boredandblogging> yeah, no need to translate english press
[17:23] <Tumie> someone else is now checking the whole issue
[17:23] <Tumie> (also adding his name in the credits :P )
[17:24] <MTecknology> 18 chars left to drop
[17:24] <tyche> Great
[17:26] <Tumie> i loved to do this, it is a lot of work, but a good practice for my english
[17:26] <boredandblogging> we are happy you are
[17:27] <tyche> You do well, Tumie
[17:27] <Tumie> boredandblogging, do you mean "we are as happy as you are" ??
[17:27] <boredandblogging> we are happy you are doing it
[17:27] <Tumie> ok :p
[17:28] <Tumie> UWN-NL must become the biggest :p
[17:28] <boredandblogging> :-)
[17:28] <Tumie> then YOU need to learn dutch! to translate it into english :p
[17:29] <boredandblogging> maybe one day
[17:29] <Tumie> it will never happen :p
[17:35] <MTecknology> I'm not figuring this out
[17:35] <MTecknology> apparently it is all just openid
[17:35] <MTecknology> but
[17:35] <MTecknology> the form method is confusing
[17:35] <MTecknology> http://loco.profarius.com/content/openid-login
[17:40] <MTecknology> I wanna make it work!!! ;'(
[17:41] <tyche> Well, it throws me into your page, but that's all.  No edit capability.
[17:41] <MTecknology> it doesn't let you login either
[17:41] <tyche> Nor does it spit me out.  It just throws me to your page.
[17:41] <MTecknology> there's something I need to do with the form action
[17:42] <tyche> Looks like
[17:42] <tyche> But *I* don't know what.
[17:43] <MTecknology> there's something else in the code I'm missing
[17:43] <MTecknology> javascript somewhere
[17:43] <MTecknology> I wish I learned more about using a form to submit javascript to the same page
[17:44] <MTecknology> nope - it doesn't do that either
[17:47] <MTecknology> tyche: closer.....
[17:47] <tyche> You'll get there yet
[17:48] <MTecknology> somewhere on the LP page it's forming everything that gets sent to the lp site... once I figure that out - i'll have the rest
[17:49] <MTecknology> grr... it redirects to itself and then somewhere itself forwards to lp
[17:49] <MTecknology> but I don't see any script on the page
[17:52] <MTecknology> beuno: You have any idea?
[17:52] <tyche> It's somewhere in the "form action=", I think
[17:52] <tyche> But I don't know what
[17:53] <tyche> I don't think it's sending it to OpenID
[17:53] <MTecknology> right - that part is just making it go back to itself
[17:54] <tyche> And I don't know enough about how Drupal works to be able to help you.  Do you have the Drupal manual?
[17:54] <MTecknology> it's not with drupal i don't think
[17:54] <MTecknology> it has something to do with that form that I'm missing
[17:54] <tyche> If it's a Drupal plugin, then it would have something to do with it, I think
[17:54] <tyche> Hold on.
[17:57] <MTecknology> grrr... I need to reboot to windows soon... tool I use for test taking doesn't run inside a virtual machine
[17:57] <tyche> Sorry.  I just checked the manual, and it doesn't say much about it.  You may need to look at the source for the plugin, and see if it has any information.
[17:58] <MTecknology> it's not the plugin
[17:58] <MTecknology> launchpad will send things back in the format drupal expects
[17:58] <tyche> But first you have to reach launchpad
[17:58] <MTecknology> but... I need to figure out how to make a form to push info to it
[17:59] <MTecknology> look at what the button does now
[17:59] <tyche> Look at the source for https://login.launchpad.net/+openid
[18:00] <MTecknology> I was trying
[18:00] <tyche> Yep.  DEFINITELY look at that link and create a form like theirs
[18:00] <MTecknology> wait - source there?
[18:00] <MTecknology> I was looking at +decide
[18:00] <tyche> pull up the page, and "view source"
[18:01] <MTecknology> right
[18:01] <MTecknology> I'm seeing css
[18:01] <MTecknology> that's all the code there
[18:02] <tyche> I don't know what to tell you, then
[18:02] <MTecknology> hu?
[18:02] <MTecknology> what were you wanting me to see?
[18:03] <MTecknology> there's javascript at +decide
[18:03] <MTecknology> but i can't make through it
[18:03] <tyche> There's a "form action" there that posts to /+decide
[18:03] <tyche> In under it is the login information
[18:04] <tyche> Then the "submit" under that.
[18:04] <MTecknology> HA!!!
[18:04] <MTecknology> disable javascript
[18:04] <MTecknology> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node?destination=node
[18:04] <tyche> don't be late for your test
[18:04] <tyche> :-)
[18:05] <MTecknology> I've been in class since 9:30 - it's 12:05
[18:05] <tyche> You're only an hour ahead of me.  It's 11:05 here
[18:06] <MTecknology> well - time to take off
[18:06] <MTecknology> thanks for the help
[18:06] <tyche> kk
[18:06] <MTecknology> thanks as well to noscript ;)
[18:06] <MTecknology> ttyl
[19:26] <Tumie> publising on wiki.ubuntu.com now..
[19:28] <Tumie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue115/NL
[19:28] <Tumie> boredandblogging: it is finished :)
[19:29] <Tumie> now starting promotion
[19:30] <tyche> Congratulations, Tumie!
[19:36] <Tumie> tyche: thanks :)
[20:02] <MTecknology> So - being able to add events on the fridge is a pretty big priviledge?
[20:02] <MTecknology> privilege*
[20:27] <MTecknology> Anybody know much about how the fridge works with lp?
[21:55] <MTecknology> Hey, I'm trying to have my site use launchpad to log in. I only want users in the group to log in. afaik, that just means I need to create a single user account in my site and associate all their openid's to it. I have my login form at http://pastebin.com/m74176107. It seems to work except that openid login always fails. I took that form from fridge.ubuntu.com... I'm trying to set this up at http://loco.profarius.com  The page is at ht