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aaroncampbelluh oh, I was looking through widgets to try to see if it was there, and now my KDE button is gone :|00:00
jussi01Mojo_risin: which version are you in?00:00
Mojo_risinjussio1: gutsy00:00
jussi01Mojo_risin: ahh, old one00:01
Mojo_risinwell... :)00:01
aaroncampbellJontheEchidna: that's a bummer.  I used it a LOT, and I don't see any kind of replacement either00:01
Mojo_risinbut it's KDE 3 yes00:01
jussi01Mojo_risin: not sure if it has this, but try in terminal: asoundconf list00:01
JontheEchidnaaaroncampbell: you can drag icons to the panel, but they're sorta big imo00:01
jussi01Mojo_risin: then: asoundconf set-default-card <cardname>00:02
Mojo_risinjussio1: let me try00:02
aaroncampbellJontheEchidna: Drag to the panel from where?00:02
JontheEchidnaaaroncampbell: the menu00:02
JontheEchidnaapplication launcher thingy00:03
aaroncampbellJontheEchidna: doesn't work for me00:03
JontheEchidnadoesn't work?00:04
* JontheEchidna finds it's easier to land the drop if you drag the icon to the very top of the panel00:04
* genii hands jussi01 a coffee00:04
Mojo_risinjussio1: didn't work :(00:04
jussi01Mojo_risin: what does it say?00:05
Mojo_risinnothing..00:05
Mojo_risinno error but no sound also00:05
Mojo_risinjust PC sound00:05
jussi01Mojo_risin: you need to restart the app after that00:05
Mojo_risinjussio1: now it crashes00:07
Mojo_risintried with kaffeine and amarok00:07
jussi01ouch00:07
jussi01Mojo_risin: Im not sure - gutsy is old and I cant remember how it works00:07
Mixed_--_anybody knows where the "network-script" folder is located in ubuntu or what is its equivalent??00:08
Mojo_risinjussio1: ok, thanks anyway :)00:08
stdinMixed_--_: /etc/network/ probably00:09
Mixed_--_stdin, how would I configure a static NIC??00:10
dwidmannI've got a SATA DVD drive, how can I set the speed manually (it's going at full pace ... I'd like to slow it down. Seems like hdparm won't work)00:10
TimmyMacHey, gang...I'm having a weird display issue.  I'm not even sure where to start poking around.00:11
TimmyMacScreenshots here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098760.msg154013#msg15401300:11
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stdinMixed_--_: see 'man interfaces' or use KNetowrkManager00:11
Mixed_--_stdin: thanks for pointing me at the right direction00:12
dwidmannTimmyMac: hmm, on an off chance, try disabling usplash and restarting00:13
stdinMixed_--_: KNetworkManager is the easiest way, 'man interfaces' has an example you can basically just steal. I'd try KNetworkManager first00:14
red22kde freezes about 5 seconds after logging in... i see the desktop and then it just freezes and then nothing responds to mouse clicks... (i ctl-alt-bckspace then log into gnome, which is working as usual).  how can i get kde working again please?00:14
Guest37963Hi im having issues setting up my monitors resalution,my monitors defualt is 1440x900 yet when kubuntu runs in this mode it casues me to loose the left/right parts of my screen making my kde menu dissapeer. when running in lower resolutions my graphics are not as good00:14
TimmyMacdwidmann:  I can try that.  Of course, it's not doing it now.  Only happens sometimes.00:14
red22kde is freezing after logging in.. how can i try to find what program is causing this?  help pls.  tired of reading online docs but couldn't figure out what's wrong..00:17
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sd32my startup sound quits 2 seconds into playing, is there any way to fix this?00:18
Guest37963Hi im having issues setting up my monitors resalution,my monitors defualt is 1440x900 yet when kubuntu runs in this mode it casues me to loose the left/right parts of my screen making my kde menu dissapeer. when running in lower resolutions my graphics are not as good00:18
utenhey00:19
utenanyone in here install kde 4.2 from trunk?00:20
tacosarecoolI use kde 4.1.200:20
tacosarecoolI think00:20
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utentacosarecool:  4.1.2 comes with kubuntu 8.10 but i want to install 4.2 from trunk00:20
utenI followed http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE400:21
utenbut I am having problems00:21
tacosarecool Trunk is frozen for feature commits that are not listed in the  planned feature document. Only bugfixes and the code implementing the listed features are to be committed. The feature list also closes today. Features not already finished or listed on the planned features page will have to wait until KDE 4.3.00:21
tacosarecoolhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule00:22
Mixed_--_stdin:  thank you for your help, i figured out, im not using the GUI00:24
vasilisaHow do I save 1024 x 768 resolution? Every time i relog it hops back into a higher resolution until i click "display" again. My eyes ar ekilling me from that high rez00:24
Guest37963Hi im having issues setting up my monitors resalution,my monitors defualt is 1440x900 yet when kubuntu runs in this mode it casues me to loose the left/right parts of my screen making my kde menu dissapeer. when running in lower resolutions my graphics are not as good00:25
sd32!repeat00:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience00:25
Guest37963^^would i still have this problem if i swithced to another distro?00:25
vasilisaI wish everything was smaller instead of relying on this high resolution. Not everyone has good eyes00:25
vasilisamine burn when i look at high res screens, even flat panels00:26
Guest37963vasilisa: i know what  you mean im having res issues too,excpet mine are a bit different. im forced to use a res that makes everything wicked blurry :P00:26
vasilisaGuest37963: In the display menu it has some stupid "auto" setting that it forces.00:27
vasilisaits not in xorg. i dunno where they hid it00:27
Guest37963i have 3 computers running off the smae internet,is ther some way to regualte how much bandwidth they use?00:29
geniiGuest37963: Pretty much any hardware you have difficulty with in one version of linux you will have difficulty in any other version. Some more commercial versions like Xandros have marginally better support but thats about it.00:29
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vasilisai cant stand anything above 1024x768...00:31
vasilisaugh00:31
[buRn]adept is now working in read-only mode, how to restore adept to func propertly?00:31
scribblesI setup apache2 to use port 8080 as 80 is blocked by comcast. Locahost:8080 shows the default It Works! page but my external ip:8080 doesn't work. I portforwarded my router to this machine and even turned off my firewall to see and it still doesn't work? Nmap is showing that 8080 is open for http-proxy. I plan on using DynDNS but that :8080 doesn't work and neither does my external ip:8080.00:31
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[buRn]adept is now working in read-only mode, how to restore adept to func propertly?00:32
edtanyone else geting sig 11 with adept in 8.1000:36
[buRn]adept is now working in read-only mode, how to restore adept to func propertly?00:37
kuadhualhi all.....00:40
kuadhualcan anybody help me with keyboard ma[[ing00:40
kuadhualmapping00:40
cuznt!keyboard mapping00:41
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:41
cuznt!mapping00:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mapping00:41
cuznt!keyboard00:41
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts00:41
nejodescribbles: dis you forward port 80 to 8080 in the router?00:41
kuadhualsome how if i press F12 it acted like if I right click, and a pop up menu appear00:41
[buRn]adept is now working in read-only mode, how to restore adept to func propertly?00:41
woody86can I use network-manager in Kubuntu? if I can, what would I need to disable/get rid of in Kubuntu?00:42
kuadhualI'll try that first00:42
supert0nes[buRn]: is another form of adept or apt still running? or maybe synaptic?00:42
[buRn]no, i restart the linux, and show the same message00:43
[buRn]Could not obtain a write lock on the cache, falling back to read-only mode. You won't be able to install, remove or upgrade packages. However, you can still search in the package database and browse packages.00:43
[buRn]It appears that another process is running, which holds the write lock on the database. You first need to close that program and then restart Adept to gain write access.00:43
cuzntbuRn open a terminal and try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"00:43
nejode!apt fix00:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about apt fix00:44
[buRn]sudo dpkg --configure -a00:44
cuzntyes00:44
cuznttry that00:44
cuznton a terminal00:45
[buRn]yup00:45
nejode!apt-get00:45
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)00:45
[buRn]copyed wrong output :D00:45
[buRn]dpkg: status database area is locked by another process00:45
cuznt!apt unlock00:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about apt unlock00:45
supert0nesi always forget that command00:45
genii!aptfix00:46
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:46
nejodebuRn: sudo apt-get -f install00:46
nejode!apt-get fix00:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-get fix00:46
xzasedHi. Im trying to setup a bluetooth usb adapter. Its a cirago BTA-3210. I connect it and nothing happens... I start kbluetooth but all the config options are greyed out00:46
[buRn]i installed new im client and after that apt crashes00:47
[buRn] sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a00:47
nejode!locked apt-get00:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about locked apt-get00:47
favro!aptfix00:47
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:47
nejode..that's the one00:48
favrohehe00:48
[buRn]Try `readlink --help' for more information.00:48
kuadhualcuznt: nope, that had no effect, whit keyboard layout turn on or of, my F12 still act like a right click00:48
[buRn]^Cdpkg: error processing mercury-messenger (--configure):00:48
[buRn] subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)00:48
[buRn]Errors were encountered while processing:00:48
[buRn] mercury-messenger00:48
kuadhualand there is no option for function keys00:48
[buRn]Try `readlink --help' for more information.00:49
[buRn]^Cdpkg: error processing mercury-messenger (--configure):00:49
[buRn] subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)00:49
vegas_hola gente00:49
[buRn]Errors were encountered while processing:00:49
[buRn] mercury-messenger00:49
vegas_alguien habla spanishhh00:49
scribblesnejode: no. how do I do that?00:49
kuadhualwhere is the configuration file for keyboard keys?00:50
cuznt!sp00:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sp00:50
cuznt!sn00:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sn00:50
[buRn]i find it out, i use sudo apt-ger remove mercury-messenger00:51
nejodescribbles: in your router you have to redirect your external port 80 to your internal port 808000:51
DrrtEgrrTdoes anyone know how to deal with the mtss corefont error in 8.1000:54
DrrtEgrrTIve loaded the kubuntu desktop hoping that would do it.............00:56
DrrtEgrrTno love00:56
scribblesnejode: but even if I do my ip:8080 it doesn't work00:56
scribblesnejode: why would it need to be forwarded for 80 if its requesting that port directly00:56
geniiscribbles: Have you tried just some arbitrary port? 8080 is also a well-known one they may be blocking00:58
nejodescribbles: so you're writing http://domain.name:8080??00:58
scribblesnejode: yes00:58
nejodescribbles: try what genii says, my  (lousy) ISP blocks all ports from 1024 down01:00
nejode...but al least you can disble that trough their web page01:00
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xzasedHi. Im trying to setup a bluetooth usb adapter. Its a cirago BTA-3210. I connect it and nothing happens... I start kbluetooth but all the config options are greyed out01:02
nejodexzased: check if your system "sees" it> try lsusb in konsole01:05
xzasednejode: yes, it sees it01:05
xzasedit says: ...usb dongle (HCI mode)01:06
nejodexzased: but no branding or manufacturer ID?01:07
xzasednejode: yes, it shows the branding, the whole thing reads01:08
xzasedBus 001 Device 006: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)01:08
woody86how can I add a digital clock applet that will show UTC/GMT??01:10
nejodexzased: wierd... maybe it needs to load a kernel module...01:10
tacosarecoolhello01:11
geniiWhat does lsusb -nn   say for it ?01:11
geniiHangon I think the   0a12:0001 may be the relevant thing01:11
genii(vendor:device)01:11
tacosarecoolHelp in hardware testing it says my resolution is01:13
tacosarecoolimpossible with fglrx01:13
nejodexzased: it's supposed to "just work"01:14
condonwhen I try to record in xvidcap, I get the following message01:14
condonxtoffmpeg.c add_video_stream(): video codec not found01:15
xzasednejode: haha, I know. I,ll try to reinstall and see if that works. Thanks01:15
condonis there a command to configure xvidcap?  set filenames, codecs to use, etc.?01:15
tacosarecoolHelp!01:15
tacosarecoolHelp in hardware testing it says my resolution is impossible with fglrx01:16
Dragnslcrxzased- what version of Kubuntu01:16
xzasedDragnsler: Kubuntu hardy kde 3.5+01:16
nejodexzased: did you check if the service is running > ps ax | grep blue ???01:17
tacosarecoolAnyone?01:18
tacosarecoolHelp in hardware testing it says my resolution is impossible with fglrx01:18
tacosarecoolNo static bars01:18
tacosarecoolThat's a problem01:18
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xzasednejode: This is what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/67648/01:19
nejodexxzased: you should get a bluetoothd-service-input line01:21
nejodexzased: try restarting the service> sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart01:22
xzasednejode: That worked!01:24
xzasedThanks!01:24
davidHow do i enable those snazzy desktop effects?01:24
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bazhang!!ccsm01:24
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion01:24
nejodexzased: nice!01:24
tacosarecoolhello01:25
tacosarecoolHelp in hardware testing it says my resolution is impossible with fglrx01:25
Guest30705hi i have a ethernet splitter box and im wondering if thers anyway to regulate how much bandwidth goes to each computer attached to it01:26
nejodetacosarecool: everybody is having problems with video drivers in 8.1001:27
nejodetacosarecool: what ati card are you running??01:27
tacosarecoolEven nvidia users?01:27
tacosarecoolOh x30001:27
tacosarecoolati x30001:27
condonyep, I use nvidia, had a fun time getting it all running right.01:28
nejodetacosarecool: read the release notes, no support for radeon 9500 and lower, nor x6oo and lower01:29
tacosarecoolWhy?01:29
tacosarecoolLinux is supposed to be a os that's friendly to older hardware01:30
nejodetacosarecool: read about half way down > http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/81001:30
nejodetacosarecool: I agree with you, I think Canonical is trying hard to make their own "vista"01:31
tacosarecoolWell I guess I'll disable my driver01:31
tacosarecoolSince it doesn't matter01:32
tacosarecoolI'll have to buy a graphics card on black friday01:32
nejode...I'm staying with 8.04 until I find a good distro that will have support for my cards01:32
tacosarecoolOpensuse?01:32
nejodeMandriva?01:32
RyunixHai guys i have been trying to get a static ip with intrepid but to no avail.. anyone know how i can?01:32
tacosarecoolUbuntu is the best though01:33
Ryunixin hardy i was able to have static ip01:33
tacosarecool /kubuntu01:33
nejodeRyunix: edit you /etc/network/interfaces file01:33
tacosarecoolYou can01:33
tacosarecoolRight click01:33
tacosarecoolWorld icon01:33
tacosarecoolEdit connections01:34
tacosarecoolMake wired01:34
tacosarecoolManual01:34
Ryunixdude this is my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96419201:34
Ryunixi set the static ip but then when i check my router its still dhcp01:34
Ryunixtacosarecool i have done01:35
geniiRyunix: Your router will keep a record that the dhcp IP is still good until the lease for it expires01:37
Ryunixgenii i need a static ip for my network01:37
Ryunixim having to restart connections with my other computers01:37
geniiRyunix: Most routers have the capability to assign IP by MAC address01:38
Ryunixand im paying money for a static ip so i expect to be able to use it like in hardy..01:38
Guest30705on my taskbar where all the little icons go (like the sound manager and whatnot) thers a few blue boxes,one of them has an icon one is empty and one has half an icon. is this normal?01:38
geniiRyunix: The router will have the static IP01:38
Ryunixgenii: but dhcp is not an option for since my printer goes haywire when i go dhcp01:39
Ryunixme*01:39
neversfeldeGuest30705: Nvidia Card?01:39
Ryunixis there a patched .deb for networkmanager ?01:40
geniiRyunix: You can also use the same method of assigning IP by mac address to the printer. On HP printers for instance, the test page of the printer tells you the MAC which you feed into the router01:40
Ryunixgenii yeh i was looking at my routers page and it can but does this mean static ip's dont/wont work in intrepid ?01:41
nejodeRyunix: your best bet is to edit your interfaces file and restart your network01:42
Ryunixk01:42
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Ryunixthnx dude01:42
geniiRyunix: They work fine. However if you are setting an internal IP of the LAN to something like 199.5.6.7   which is for instance the staticv IP you paid for, the router is getting this IP from them (your ISP). So setting the server to this makes for routing nightmares01:42
Ryunixoh ok thnx genii01:43
sevenseeker1can someone tell me how to properly reconfigure xorg.conf?  I tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but it is very incomplete (no video driver, screens, resolutions, etc)01:43
ardchoillesevenseeker1: that is becoming more and more automated with less and less user intervention :(01:44
sevenseeker1ardchoille: yes, the problem is I upgraded from 8.04 and want to start over with my config... I just can't seem to figure out how to recreate what the initial install does01:44
nejodeRyunix: genii is right, you should make your router have the static public IP and forward it to your server/desktop01:45
sevenseeker1ardchoille: I have become used to having it 'just work' and so never checked at the internals... I guess that is a price to pay01:46
Ryunixnejode genii: do i add dns's to the /etc/network/interfaces file ?01:46
nejodeRyunix: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html01:47
nejodeRyunix: in your router's config web page you should be able to asighn a static address to it01:48
geniiRyunix: If you are using the method I dscribed, no. You set the /etc/network/interfaces   back to dhcp and auto. Then the router to assign always a given IP to the server. The server gets routing info it needs from router01:49
tacosarecoolhello01:49
ardchoillesevenseeker1: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15048/01:49
geniiRyunix: Then forward ports you need like 80 or so on from router to that IP you assigned by mac address to the server01:49
tacosarecoolnalioth01:50
sevenseeker1ardchoille: very interesting01:50
Ryunixgenii first im gonna see if the router sees my comp as static brb01:50
geniiI won't01:50
sevenseeker1that is a neat way to flag things01:50
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genii*It01:50
[buRn]can i install .rpm files in kubuntu?01:51
ardchoille[buRn]: no01:52
tacosarecoolDarn it my video card isn't supported in 8.1001:52
ardchoille[buRn]: look for the app in the repos, if you can't find that look for a .deb, if you can't find that compile it. never use .rpm packages01:52
sevenseeker1[buRn]: you can run alien on them and convert to deb though01:52
naliothtacosarecool: hi01:52
ardchoillealien is dangerous01:52
ardchoille!alien01:52
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:53
sevenseeker1[buRn]: right, I should add that it is the last resort01:53
[buRn]ok, i was just asking, thnx for help01:53
nejodeRyunix: if your lan has a class A address (192.168.X.X/24) and you machine has a public IP you're going to have routing problems for sure01:53
Ryunixnejode what u mean ?01:54
tacosarecoolnalioth are you the one who said your running 8.04 right?01:54
tacosarecoolI left because It froze01:55
tacosarecoolCause my graphics card is crap under 8.1001:55
Ryunixbtw nejode genii: the manul edit worked, but what u mean problems ? i have been getting disconnects in the past without knowing what caused them01:55
nejodeRyunix: the job of a router is to "route" an internal lan to a external wan01:56
geniiRyunix: If you have for instance 1.2.3.4 manually assigned to server, then also 1.2.3.4 which the router is getting as a static IP assigned by ISP, then how do you tell it how to route packets from 1.2.3.4 instance 1 to 1.2.3.4 instance 2  ? eg01:57
nejode...and the lan should have the same class address01:57
tacosarecoolah the lag!01:57
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nejodequit for the day... bye01:59
Ryunixgenii nejode my comp static is a 192.168.x.xx and my gateway ip is a 192.168.x.xxx01:59
Ryunixwill i have problems then ?02:00
tacosarecoolAh my graphics card is crap under 8.1002:00
geniiRyunix: No02:00
Ryunixgenii: <3 k thnx  c u's im calling it a night02:01
geniiRyunix: If your netmask is 255.255.255.0   then 192.168.X.1   is the usual gateway02:01
Ryunixk thnx dude02:01
naliothtacosarecool: it was not i  :(02:01
Ryunixor dudette?02:01
geniiDude :)02:03
* genii hands nalioth a coffee02:03
* nalioth finds the coffee cold, after it's trip from #kubuntu-offtopic :|02:05
microchip420heys everybody, I had a power interruption earlier, and now my system will not connect to the web consistently, I keep getting a 'server timeout' message for port 80. how can i fix this?02:08
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ardchoille!printer > me02:15
ubottuardchoille, please see my private message02:15
woody86can someone help me out, I installed Kubuntu, and removed all the Ubuntu stuff, and now when I click on the Firefox icon in Kubuntu it says it has no Type=... entry??02:16
chrisruls00Is anyone here using the beta of the NVidia 96 series drivers? How do I set them up properly? I keep getting a white screen when the xserver starts if I try to use them.02:16
jtismeanyone using asus p5q mobo on 8.X02:18
jtismewoody86, 8.1002:20
woody86jtisme: yup02:20
jtismei usually run ff from the launch area but let me fire up kub 8.10 and see what it has as it is diff than 8.0402:21
digwoody86: I assume type "firefox" in command line won't work?02:22
unity`Buntumannn02:22
unity`Buntuim having trouble mounting my ntfs drive02:22
jtismewoody86, that should work but do  firefox& to put in background02:23
jtismebrb02:23
woody86dig, jtisme, thanks guys, I think when I removed all the Ubuntu stuff it removed FF because it comes installed on Ubuntu and not by default on Kubuntu :)02:23
woody86I just did 'firefox' in the terminal and it said to install it, so I'm going to try that first :P02:24
woody86but the logos, and launchers are still there for it??02:25
digwoody86: not sure, but I guess os02:26
woody86dig: yup, now it's working fine :D02:29
digwoody86: great!02:29
woody86now does anyone know of a good 24 hour digital clock widget I can change the timezone on?02:31
unity`Buntugah02:31
dig!election > me02:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about election02:32
unity`Buntuthis sucks.02:32
h00kBlah.  Kopete can see my webcam, configure it, contacts cannot.02:32
unity`Buntu!gnump3d02:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gnump3d02:32
h00kBlah.  Kopete can see my webcam, configure it, contacts cannot see that I have one, any ideas,anyone?  Also, On campus (no ports blocked, etc)02:34
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sjdurfeyim trying to search for an install eclipse in kubuntu 8.10, and the command i am using is "sudo apt-cache search eclipse". its not even attempting to search the repos nor is it giving me an error message to inform me that i am using the command incorrectly. anyone have any idea what the problem is?02:35
dr_willisyou dont need sudo with apt-cache search i belive02:36
JontheEchidnamaybe the sudo02:36
h00ksjdurfey: I just did that....it searched for me, (the syntax appears correct)02:36
dr_willissudo apt-get install eclipse02:36
dr_willisperhaps02:36
h00k$ sudo apt-cache search eclipse02:37
dr_willis!info eclipse02:37
ubottueclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-5ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 126 kB, installed size 416 kB02:37
dr_willisapt-cache search eclipse02:37
sjdurfeyi tried that, it informed me the package name was incorrect02:37
h00ksjdurfey: can you apt-get update, first?02:37
sjdurfeytried it without the sudo, and nothing happened02:37
sjdurfeyill try02:37
woody86dig: Obama is killing right now, but if you want to keep up with the election, check out http://www.myspace.com/decision0802:37
dr_willisIt aint over till the last recount 7 months from now..! :)02:38
woody86dr_willis: haha, very true02:38
sjdurfeyyeah, obama is distancing himself from mccain rather quickly, CNN has him at 194 electoral votes already02:38
woody86sjdurfey: yup, 194 to 90 :D02:38
dr_williscan we start yelling 'obama stole the election' allready? or are the Rep's allowed to do that? :)02:39
sjdurfeycnn still has mccain at 6902:39
woody86msnbc has obama at 200 and mccain at 85 :D02:39
dr_willisIf anything - the last few elections ahve taught us no to trust CNN and the other news sites..02:39
sjdurfeyhaha, sounds like everyone has a different answer02:39
dr_willisWe all know his popularity is due to the YouTube Obama-Babes videos! :)02:40
woody86well, all the major news networks are pollitical, so they're going to have some bias, and some may be slower to get info in than others02:40
sjdurfeyhaha, i only saw a brief picture of her once02:40
digjust one question: do you guys vote on weekend or it is possible to vote on weekday(skip work?)02:41
woody86dig: by law you are entitled to miss work to vote, and you're employer CANNOT repremand you in any way02:42
sjdurfeycnn is now saying obama won ohio, thats pretty key02:42
JontheEchidnapolice officers can't take vacation today though ;-)02:43
JontheEchidnaI imagine they still get to vote02:43
diggreat!02:43
h00ksjdurfey: how is the apt-cache?02:43
woody86JontheEchidna: haha, I'm sure they work it out as not to miss work, either through early voting, or absentee voting02:43
sjdurfeyupdate is still running, i just installed 8.10, and i took a leave of absence from ubuntu for a while, and totally forgot i had to do that02:44
JontheEchidnayeah, I just heard on the news that the officers aren't allowed to take vacation today :P02:44
sjdurfeymy connection is so slow right now, the update is crawling by02:44
h00ksjdurfey: my condolances for a slow cxion02:45
woody86JontheEchidna: good thing I changed majors from Criminal justice to CIS :D02:45
digWhen the result is likely out?02:45
JontheEchidnadepends on how close the election is02:45
sjdurfeyi want to know who is sucking up allllll the bandwidth02:45
dig2 hours possible?02:45
sjdurfeyi can sometimes get about 1mb/sec down, right now its going around 14kb/sec :(02:45
h00ksjdurfey: maybe try a different mirror02:46
woody86dig: I'm not sure, normally these "not-official" vote counts are released early, but they have to "Officially" count them all and get the official tallies02:46
sjdurfeyits not just the update, its everything i try to do02:46
JontheEchidnaand in some timezones the polls won't be closed for a few hours yet02:46
woody86true02:46
unity`Buntuokay woah02:46
woody86california and Hawaii still have 2 hours left before they close02:47
unity`Buntucan anyone help me out with gnump3d02:47
unity`Buntunot 2 hours.02:47
unity`Buntu1.25hr02:47
unity`Buntuin ca02:47
woody86unity`Buntu: ah :) thanks02:47
diggreat!02:47
woody86the website just said "under 2 hours" so I figured I'd go with that02:48
unity`Buntugod.. please dont let mccain win...02:48
sjdurfeythe ACM chapter at my school blows02:48
unity`Buntuanyway..02:48
unity`Buntui got gnump3d running.02:48
woody86unity`Buntu: that's why so many people are voting this year, all us lazy democrats finally got off our butts :D02:48
h00kBBC says M: 124, O, 20002:48
unity`Buntuim wondering if theres a way to require a username/password to view the server..02:48
sjdurfeyim trying to get some guys together to get an install fest organized at my school, but the chapter president doesnt seem to like to return emails02:48
woody86sjdurfey: where are you located?02:49
sjdurfeyBowling Green, OH02:49
bluecopperhi i finally got my upgrade done but its seems to be sketchy02:49
woody86sjdurfey: ah! Congrats on your state going to Obama :D I wish more people who started local user's groups would take their position more seriously :(02:50
bluecoppertwice it just froze on me02:50
ncfi1013_how do i rip music tracks to amarok?02:50
unity`Buntuanyone know about it?02:50
bluecopperand that soon after getting to the desktop02:50
sjdurfeyat the moment im not part of a users group, but there is one not too far from me and they agreed to help with the install fest, but i would like to have a few people help with advertising it, and setting up a booth in the student union so the other students can at least see what Ubuntu is all about02:51
GillesMMhello on 8.10 I can't drag and drog icons on task bar ? I have a forbidden symbol and my taskbar is unlocked idea ?02:51
GillesMMkde 4.1 ...02:51
AshexWhat happened to the file copy manager that was in Hardy?02:51
dr_williskde4 redid a lot of things GillesMM02:54
GillesMMdr_willis: :)02:54
Ashexit also took kde3 out back and shot it02:54
Ashextwice02:54
dr_willisThen laughed!02:54
Ashexwith great mirth!02:54
ArkoldThoshow I control how fans works?02:54
h00kand Office-Space-style baseball-bat it.02:55
AshexArkoldThos, use lm-sensors02:55
JontheEchidnaGillesMM: it should be possible to drag it to the panel, just aim for the very top of the panel02:55
JontheEchidnadragging will become much easier in KDE 4.202:55
sjdurfeyah sweet, its nice to see kubuntu has to window preview working for the programs in the task bar, i had openSuse installed for about a week, and it wasnt working, it looked really dumb to have this big black box without a preview inside it, haha02:55
JontheEchidnawonder if they forgot to re-enable the effect in KWin :P02:56
* JontheEchidna finds a video02:57
JontheEchidnahttp://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Painless_Drop02:57
sjdurfeyi need to get acquainted with KDE, im looking to write an app using Qt02:57
AshexArkoldThos, use it with fancontrol, and it'll do it02:58
AshexArkoldThos, when I setup fan control on my pc way back, I used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278002:58
vasilisamy friend's using ibex. he's a bcm user, and he cant connect02:58
vasilisawe did the wcutter stuff, set up the driver, etc... nothing02:58
draikHas anyone else's Device Notifier taken a dump? I plug in my USB card reader and external HDD... nothing.03:01
Ash-FoxHow does one disable the PC speaker beeps?03:02
draikK Menu > Computer > System Settings > Notifications03:02
draikThere should be a tab for system beeps03:02
draikDisable those03:02
draik^^ Ash-Fox03:02
Ash-FoxDraik, nah, issues exist in Wine and skype03:02
Ash-FoxNot KDE application specific03:03
draikAsh-Fox: Sorry.03:03
AshexSo, I'm not entirely sure if this is a bug03:04
AshexPlug in ntfs drive03:04
Ashexget detection and prompt to enter password03:04
Ashexenter password, but it doesn't mount due to a unclean unmount from last time around03:04
Ashexbut, there's no prompt or message about this03:04
Ashexthe password prompt goes away, and the icon in Dolphin doesn't change. Clicking the icon does nothing03:05
AshexWould that be a reportable bug or a regression?03:05
JontheEchidnaAsh-Fox: kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist03:05
JontheEchidnaadd the line03:05
JontheEchidnablacklist pcspkr03:05
JontheEchidnasave, reboot03:05
AshexJontheEchidna, ha, I've been trying to figure out how to disable it for years03:06
JontheEchidnahehe03:06
Ash-FoxJontheEchidna, thank god03:06
Ash-FoxIt's only been bugging me with this laptop, because alsamixer doesn't let me turn it off03:06
aaroncampbellI re-installed compiz and emerald, but I now have no themes in emerald, and compiz still doesn't start right :|03:06
* Ash-Fox rmmods it03:06
woody86how can I add a launcher like in 8.04 where it has a block of 4 little launchers together?03:06
Ashexso, anyone? reportable bug or not?03:07
JontheEchidnait probably should tell you if it fails03:07
JontheEchidnaI'd file it against kde4libs03:07
draikBad Device Notifier. I had to reload it03:10
draikHow do I make it so that Dolphin is not the option within New Device Notifier?03:10
_2what is the best way to tell if i disk has a fileystem on it ?    fsck ?03:10
JontheEchidnadraik: currently that is hardcoded03:10
draikJontheEchidna: Any signs of a possible change?03:11
JontheEchidnayes, don't know how soon03:11
draikJontheEchidna: Ok.03:12
JontheEchidnahttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15893803:12
\KiraWhats a command that can add a user to a group, without creating a new group or user or changing the users main group?03:12
_2\Kira usermod -aG group user03:13
\Kira_2: thanks03:13
draikHas anyone else experienced text which looks like it is being garbled and almost looks somewhat pixilated or in a horrible block font?03:13
draikI wish I had a screenshot right now03:13
_2\Kira better referance the man page.    that was from memory.03:13
\Kira_2: yeah, i was just looking for somewere to get started anyway03:14
\Kira_2: yeah, that command was right03:17
draikI have come to realize that I don't care about the bugs as much. I really love the new 8.10 look and feel for how it is set up for users. Feels... uncluttered, if that makes sense.03:27
h00kdraik: still free to still report them if you find them,03:28
draikh00k: I know. I'm liking it just the same.03:28
h00kdraik: :) good03:29
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umanHi, i managed to share my ubuntu 8.04 boxs internet connection with my xbox 360 with firestarter. the thing is i want to give all the connections that come from and go to my xbox 360 high priority (QoS) so that i dont lag. Can anyone help me out on how i can make all the connections that come from and go to my 360 get the highest priority possible. (my 360 is always connected to the same ehernet card and always has the same ip. Thanks03:52
umanHi, i managed to share my ubuntu 8.04 boxs internet connection with my xbox 360 with firestarter. the thing is i want to give all the connections that come from and go to my xbox 360 high priority (QoS) so that i dont lag. Can anyone help me out on how i can make all the connections that come from and go to my 360 get the highest priority possible. (my 360 is always connected to the same ehernet card and always has the same ip. Thanks04:06
sjdurfeyObama kicks McCains ass04:07
digya!!!!!!!!!!!!04:07
tikladowhat could be an alternative for parallel desktop?04:07
sjdurfeythis election wasnt even close04:08
tacosarecoolHooray!04:08
tacosarecoolI'm so happy!04:08
JontheEchidnaI bet Obama voted for McCain just cause he could04:08
JontheEchidna:P04:08
geniiIt's slow here right now, but please remember politics is !ot04:09
scribblesI can hear the people upstairs screaming04:09
scribblesdoors are slamming in my apartment buildling04:09
tacosarecoolwoot!04:09
scribblespeople yelling yesssss04:09
tacosarecoolSounds like a fun apartment04:09
scribbles:)04:09
geniiI wonder if they use Kubuntu ;)04:10
scribblesjust maybe04:10
scribblesit is for human beings you know ;)04:10
geniiscribbles: This is true!04:10
digthat will be cool.04:10
tikladodo you think obama winning US election can somehow uplift the condition of people in africa and other 3rd world countries?04:11
dig!ot > me04:11
ubottudig, please see my private message04:11
tacosarecoolProbably04:13
geniitiklado: Perhaps if they subsidise a crapload of cheap laptops running Kubuntu04:13
tacosarecoolbecause Obama doesn't support the war I think even though the controversy said so I don't think he will support the war04:14
tikladohahaha04:14
genii!ot04:14
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:14
geniiTry and remeber that ##politics exists :)04:14
sjdurfeytiklado: the economist did a survey of all the countries around the world, and something like 95% of the people who responded would have voted for Obama04:15
tikladowell it doesnt matter if obama will support the war, but the fact is US industries relies on weapons for war..how can US survive the recession if it will not support the war?04:15
woody86is there any way to add the 5-a-day applet to Kubuntu?04:15
geniiDoes anyone have any outstanding Kubuntu support issues?04:16
tikladoquite paradoxical..i think..but i think Obama winning is somehow a step towards global peace..what you think people?04:16
geniiwoody86: Yes, it works same on Kubuntu as on regular Ubuntu04:16
woody86genii: I ran all the stuff on the wiki page, and installed the 5-a-day applet, but can't find it when I click on "Add Applet" on the panel?04:17
geniitiklado: I think we need to remember to stay ontopic and not discuss politics in the support channel to such an extent04:17
geniiwoody86: OK, give me a minute to look into it04:18
woody86genii: I'm running 8.10 just FYI, thanks :)04:18
tikladowell i think poen source software is a political issue..anyway..04:19
tacosarecoolI'm running 8.10 but it doesn't support x300 linux is supposed to support older hardware I think this canonical is trying to make a vista04:19
geniitiklado: Yes, but not much to do with helping people solve their Kubuntu support issues in this channel. Which is it's purpose04:19
woody86tiklado: I was just thinking that! Windows is the republicans, Mac is the Dems, and Linux is the Green Party :D04:19
tacosarecoolBut who's the liberterians?04:20
tacosarecooland the peace and freedom?04:20
woody86nobody cares about them :P04:20
woody86lol04:20
geniiwoody86: Best I can do right now is point you to the Kubuntu-specific 5-a-day https://wiki.kubuntu.org/5-A-Day04:20
tacosarecoolnader was peace and freedom04:20
tikladowell linux will never be green..i think it is more of red..04:20
woody86genii: ok thanks, I was using the ubuntu one before, so hopefully this will work :D04:20
tikladowell i think it is time to stop this shit..04:21
tikladookay..thanks guys..:P04:21
woody86tiklado: ah ah ah, PG language04:21
tacosarecoolOh the lag04:21
tikladosorry..do you guys know how am i going to run my other OS without rebooting from kubuntu?04:22
geniitiklado: Inside a VM, possibly?04:23
woody86what's the KDE equivelent of "deb" in a terminal?04:23
geniiwoody86: You mean to install a package?04:24
tikladoVM?04:24
woody86genii: I guess so, it says to deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/5-a-day/ubuntu intrepid main04:24
woody86but terminal says "deb"s not known04:24
geniiwoody86: deb is same for all *buntu  ..... lag... Ah, they mean to add this to your repository list in /etc/apt/sources.list04:24
woody86genii: why won't typing in "deb" work though?04:25
geniiwoody86: Because "deb" is not any name of some command04:26
tacosarecoolLag wish I had new graphics card04:26
woody86genii: then why does it want me to put that in a terminal?04:26
geniiwoody86: echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/5-a-day/ubuntu intrepid main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update04:27
woody86genii: ah, wait, nevermind, I got it now :)04:27
geniiwoody86: Ah, good :)04:27
thedark_I am not able to record in Audacity04:28
thedark_anyone can give me any ideas what to look for?04:28
tacosarecoolGo to kmix04:29
tacosarecoolAnd make sure you mic is capturing04:29
geniiThe Intel HDA cards also are known for mic issues without recompiling alsa as described in the !intelhda factoid04:30
thedark_aw man... I am newb I can't recompile :(04:31
thedark_okay I have kmix open04:31
thedark_there is no mute/unmute button for the mic boost channel04:32
thedark_but it is at max volume04:32
woody86genii: I went through all the 5-A-Day instructions, but it's still not in my list of applets?04:33
geniithedark_: In Konsole, if you issue:  lspci -nn | grep Audio    what says it?04:33
thedark_00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 03)04:34
geniithedark_: You have one of those Intel HDA cards I was talking about04:34
favro!intelhda04:35
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto04:35
geniifavro: Yup, thats the one04:36
geniiwoody86: I'm asking now in #kubuntu-bugs but it seems fairly slow there right now :/04:36
woody86genii: ah, thanks again :)04:37
draikHow do I get the Menu to appear under the GIMP window. I don't have File Edit View, etc04:40
geniiwoody86: I need to go /away however perhaps keep asking every so often on this subject in channel #kubuntu-bugs04:41
thedark_the advice it has for mics isn't really helpful...04:42
woody86ok thanks genii :D04:42
thedark_I don't have windows04:43
geniithedark_: Skip to part where it reads "Update to the Latest Version of ALSA"   then just follow instructions there04:44
geniiOK, gotta really leave now... gnite04:44
thedark_night04:45
robdHey guys05:00
robdJust curious, what's the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?05:00
robdIs it literally KDE vs Gnome or are there other package differences?05:00
rrittenhouseI just installed Kubuntu 8.10 64bit with the Desktop cd by choosing "Install Kubuntu" at the first screen. It installed pretty quick. I rebooted to be dropped into a terminal. I had to startx myself, is this normal?05:00
faileasno05:01
rrittenhousehmm05:01
rrittenhousethe one time I trust a desktop install :P05:01
draikHow do I get the Menu to appear under the GIMP window. I don't have File Edit View, etc05:07
draikWhere do I submit a bug for firefox3? You can't rename a file that you are going to save. Filename must be preserved. Gives you a server error for file not found.05:08
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thedark_...05:35
dennisteranyone know how to get in touch with ubuntu forums? I'm registered, but can't reset password with their method/links, and can't therefore, login, either05:39
dennistertheir usual reset-password system is broken :(05:40
Sokal-ECis kopete for yahoo?05:44
emilsedghSokal-EC: it could comnnect to yahoo too05:44
draikI have issues with "Error 1 - name lookup has failed" from time to time05:45
Sokal-ECi forget whats the one with yahoo rooms and stuff05:45
Sokal-ECgaim?05:45
draik!gaim | Sokal-EC05:46
ubottuSokal-EC: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete05:46
draikMy only gripe with Kopete is the constant disconnect from Yahoo05:47
|JD|hi, how do i get a .jar file to execute on kubuntu rather than be opened by ark/archive manager05:48
|JD|e.e05:48
\KiraI cant write to a external harddisk mounted on my ubuntu server im connected by ssh to. Any help?05:59
\KiraOhh, sorry. Thats not kubuntu related06:00
\KiraI usually go to this channel when I dont get answered on ubutnu because i run kubuntu, my bad06:00
draik\Kira: Permission issue? "sudo" maybe?06:03
\Kiradraik: even sudo has insufficient permissions06:03
draikWhat's the error message?06:04
sparrwhen kvirc launches kfmclient for a http URL, and kfmclient launches firefox, my existing firefox instance is moved to the current desktop.  this is new and unwanted behavior in kde 4 / kubuntu intrepid.  how can i fix it?06:20
Sokal-ECok why does firefox not show up in kmenu?06:26
sparrnone of the keyboard shortcuts for the Run Command Interface component are working for me.  alt+f2, ctrl+alt+del, etc06:29
sparrkde4 might have been ready if they had waited one more release :(06:29
sparrhow do i configure a vpn connection in kubuntu intrepid?06:30
DaSkreechsparr: run krunner06:31
sparrand then?06:32
sparrkrunner06:33
sparr<unknown program name>(1750)/: Communication problem with  "krunner" , it probably crashed.06:33
sparrError message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "06:33
DaSkreechsparr: there is your alt+F206:33
DaSkreechThat's why alt=F2 doesn't work06:33
proteusguyI just noticed kdf is gone from intrepid. Why was it removed and what is the pdf viewer recommended now?06:33
DaSkreechproteusguy: okular06:34
emilsedghproteusguy: okular rocks!06:34
proteusguythanx guys!06:34
sparrany further suggestions?06:34
emilsedghproteusguy: "Okular is a universal document viewer based on KPDF for KDE 4. "06:34
emilsedghsparr: try running kded (maybe kded4)06:35
emilsedghit may solve it06:35
DaSkreechsparr: do you have qdbus running?06:35
sparrkded06:35
sparrKDE Daemon (kded) already running.06:35
sparrkded406:36
sparrkded(1853): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server06:36
sparrDaSkreech: probably not06:36
DaSkreechsmelt like it06:36
sparrqdbus06:36
sparrCould not connect to D-Bus server: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-p3BlrnO7O0: Connection refused06:36
proteusguyDaSkreech emilsedgh - okular does look pretty nice. regards.06:36
DaSkreechproteusguy: It's leagues ahead of KPDF06:36
DaSkreechsparr: sort out dbus then you'll be ok06:37
sparri have no idea what you mean06:37
emilsedghsparr: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart06:37
sparrthe only thing i ever used dbus for before is fspot06:37
DaSkreechsparr: prepare to have that change06:37
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sparrok, restarted dbus06:38
sparrwhich restarted a number of services06:38
sparrno change in output of qdbus06:40
sparrand now alt-tab doesnt work either06:40
* sparr wants hardy back06:40
faileassparr: reinstall it then, or virtualise it06:40
sparrabout due for a reinstall, been going for a few years on this box06:41
sparrbut, right now, id like to resolve this problem so that i can at least effectively troubleshoot my other problems06:42
sparrnew output:06:42
sparrkrunner06:42
sparr<unknown program name>(2670)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server06:42
sparr<unknown program name>(2669)/: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.06:42
sparri know nothing about dbus06:44
DaSkreechhuh?06:44
DaSkreechKrunner is running already?06:45
sparr4 instances of krunner are running06:45
dig!krunner > me06:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about krunner06:45
emilsedghsparr: that must be a common problem, i have this problem time to time on kde svn, so i think searching about it will help06:46
DaSkreechIt's a Uniqie app so yeah they probably should die06:46
sparrim going to reboot06:48
sparri HATE rebooting to fix problems06:48
DaSkreechsparr: you could level bounce06:48
sparrhttp://rafb.net/p/wjHfmM46.html06:49
sparrfood for thought while im gone06:49
DaSkreechsudo init 1; sudo init 206:49
faileashmm.. anyone else having problems with medibuntu?06:50
illmortalCan someone assist me in mounting my windows hard drive? Right clickin and clickin on "mount" doesn't do the trick06:50
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ForgeAushey all06:50
faileasillmortal: what error does it give? and was it shut down properly perviously?06:50
ForgeAushow do I use dd if=/dev/hda of=grldr bs=512 count=1 if it can't find /dev/hda (I don't understand why it can't find /dev/hda06:51
illmortalno error what so ever.06:51
faileasForgeAus: won't do anything i think. might bitch06:51
illmortalit acts like it's mountin but doesn't, faileas06:51
digillmortal: can you see windows hard disks?06:51
faileashttp://pastebin.com/m32a30282 is the error i have when i try to run apt-get update06:51
ForgeAusfaileas then how do I copy the boot sector to a file?06:52
illmortalyep, the disk is shown in the storage folder but when i click on it i go into an empty folder06:52
digillmortal: May I suggest you login into windows, then back to kubuntu06:52
ForgeAusI thought that was the command to do it06:52
illmortalthat's the problem dig... windows took a crap and now im tryin to figure out how i can get some files back06:52
illmortalwindows keeps restartin as soon as im about to log in.06:52
ForgeAus(note the of= bit I modified from backup.boot06:52
faileasillmortal: ahh. you might want to try mounting it in CLI06:52
illmortalcli?06:53
faileascommand line06:53
illmortalkonsole?06:53
ForgeAusto grldr (since I want it to be the grub loader boot sector)06:53
faileasillmortal: yes06:53
ForgeAus(which is what it currently is)06:53
illmortalhow would i go about that?06:53
faileasI think it would be like sudo  mkdir /media/foo (to make a mountpoint)06:53
faileasthen sudo mount /dev/sdx1 (or whatever the drive name is) /media/foo06:54
illmortalfoo?...06:54
faileasit will then bitch and give you the correct command if its a locked drive06:54
faileasillmortal: well you can replace foo with anything06:54
faileasit needs to be /media/mountpointname06:54
illmortalyou're losin me.06:55
illmortalsudo mkdir /media/sda106:56
illmortalsudo mount /dev/sda106:56
illmortalright?06:56
faileasno no06:56
faileassudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda106:56
faileasfirst step is making a mount point. the second is mounting a drive to that mount point06:56
faileasi wonder06:57
faileas!mount06:57
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter06:57
faileasnope06:57
illmortalOperation not supported06:57
illmortalMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use06:57
faileasahh06:57
faileasdoes it give an alternate command?06:57
illmortalmount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o force06:57
faileasya..06:58
illmortal"if i don't have windows"06:58
faileasdosen't matter06:58
illmortalni8ce!06:58
faileasthe 'correct' way to do it is to booth into windows, and shutdown ;p06:58
illmortalnice!*06:58
faileasthat's the 'unsafe' way ;p06:58
illmortalthank you faileas :P07:00
faileasillmortal: np. hope you get your data out :)07:00
CreedHello07:01
ForgeAushey Creed :)07:01
ForgeAusfaileas uh is / supposed to be also mounted as a media/hdx ?07:01
CreedI am very new to the linux community and have a question07:01
ForgeAusCreed, just ask it07:02
ForgeAusasking to ask something is pointless lol07:02
faileasForgeAus: er... root isn't supposed to be mounted as anything but root. root tends to be ON a parttion methinks07:02
sparrback.  reboot fixed dbus problems it seems07:02
sparrso now back to my real question.  how do i get a vpn working in kde4?07:02
ForgeAusyes faileas, ok, so how do I get a copy of my boot sector?07:02
ForgeAusin fact where exactly is the boot sector? is it on hda, hda1, hda2 (where hda2 = / afaik)07:03
faileasForgeAus: er... sadly enough, no idea. never done it before07:03
faileasits on HDA i think07:03
faileasits supposed to be kinda 'outside' the standard partitions07:03
CreedI was trying to do a distro up over wireless connection after all the packages were fininshed downloading and the instalation had begun I lost my wireless connection and the install broke07:03
ForgeAuswell the command is generally something like dd if=/dev/hda of=backup.boot bs=512 count=107:03
ForgeAus(where backup.boot = the filename)07:03
ForgeAusbut when I do that, I get it telling me dd: opening `/dev/hda': No such file or directory07:04
faileashmm07:04
ForgeAusmaybe its hda1 or / instead?07:04
Creednow X will not load all I can access is command line07:04
ForgeAusie /dev/hda1 or / ??? but / doesn't sound right to me07:04
ForgeAushmm why doesn't grub have a grldr of its own lol grub4dos does07:04
ForgeAus(but I doubt that one would work with linux)07:05
ForgeAusI might ask in #grub maybe they'll know07:05
faileashmm07:05
faileasactually i think mine has a uldr or something07:05
faileasone moment07:05
Creedis there a way to connect to a wireless network over command line07:06
sparrCreed: yes07:06
ForgeAusfaileas does stage1 or one of those files = the boot sector anyway?07:07
faileasForgeAus: i don't mess with grub07:07
faileasits a TIFM for me07:07
ForgeAusI'm not changing it, I'm trying to make a copy for ntldr to chain to it07:07
ForgeAusIt worked ok when I did it on my pc, can't remember how I did it exactly but I think I just used the format of the command I pasted07:08
ForgeAusjust this time its giving me an error I'm not sure why exactly07:08
CreedSparr: what is the commands to do so07:08
sparrCreed: dont remember, sorry07:09
faileasForgeAus: oh, when ntldr chained it, i seemed to have a gldr or something on my drive. this was on wubi tho07:09
sparrbusy re-learning command line stuff for VPNs07:09
sparrsince kde4 doesnt have vpn support yet (wtf)07:09
Creedthanks07:09
grizzancsForgeAus: maybe it's /dev/sda  now ?07:09
sparrgonna switch over to gnome and give this a shot07:09
faileas.....07:09
ForgeAusno grizzancs this pc has only IDE drives no sata07:09
faileasForgeAus: he's right07:09
ForgeAusbut otherwise you'd be right (or if it were scsi or other)07:09
faileason newer kernels EVERYTHING is SDA07:09
CreedDoes anybody else know how to make a wireless network connection via command line07:10
faileasSDX even07:10
ForgeAusreally? this is only feisty anyway07:10
faileasCreed: most likely NetworkManager07:10
faileasthe app. never used it myself tho07:10
grizzancsForgeAus: ls /dev/?da  will tell you07:11
ForgeAusuh?07:11
ForgeAusthat didn't do anything07:11
ForgeAusjust took me back to a commandline07:11
grizzancshmm, interesting07:11
CreedI am sorry but like I said I am new to linux command line interface07:11
ForgeAusoh wait I used an I not an l07:11
ForgeAusits ok... yeah says no such file or directory07:12
grizzancswhere are your hard drives? :D is that only one hard drive in your pc ?07:12
grizzancs*there07:12
CreedI need to know the exact command string07:12
ForgeAusactually I don't get why /dev/hda doesn't exist thats weird07:13
grizzancsme neither. type mount, and check what drive is / mounted on07:13
ForgeAusok look slike your right sda07:13
ForgeAusmaybe thats why07:13
faileasCreed: try man iwconfig07:13
faileasman iwconfig07:13
ForgeAusthats very odd, since /media/hda1 is mounted there07:14
ForgeAusI just assumed everything was hda (also being that its an ide not sata drive)07:14
ForgeAusok retrying with sda07:14
Creedfaileas: thank you very much07:15
faileasCreed: np. did it work?07:15
CreedI dual boot between WinXP and Kubuntu at the moment I am on XP I will try this after rebooting07:17
faileaskk07:19
faileasCreed: man = manual page. fraid you'll have to make sense of it, but that should put you in the right direction i suspect07:20
ForgeAusmust have been feisty where the changeover to sda was...07:23
ForgeAusI don't understand why mtab (and/or fstab) are mounting a device thats sda1 and calling it hda1 ... thats very confusing07:24
sparrstuck using gnome so i can get on a vpn07:24
sparrhow annoying07:24
weedarjust as annoying as not being able to use the keyboard and mouse because they07:24
weedar're bluetooth07:24
sparrForgeAus: old naming scheme vs new naming scheme?07:28
ForgeAusahh looks like it worked :)07:28
ForgeAusyeah sparr, I think so07:29
ectospasmso I'm warming up to KDE4... the interface is really slick, but I wish I could say it was intuitive or easy to use.  It's not, at least in the way that I expect07:29
ForgeAuswhatever uses mtab might have kept it for compatibility purposes or something07:29
ForgeAusectospasm, could be worse but yes for the most part I agree with you07:29
ectospasmI have an issue that I don't even know how to begin to report:  adding and removing widgets in a reliable manner escapes me07:29
ForgeAusI'm still not entirely happy with kde4 yet....07:29
ectospasm...to the panel, I mean.07:30
ForgeAusuh the only problem I've had there is some of the widgets don't have an icon for me...07:30
ForgeAusbut adding and removing them they show up a number in the add/remove widgets box07:30
ForgeAusso you just click the minus button to remove one07:31
ectospasmForgeAus: how do you add them?  Making the star yellow?  THat doesn't always work for me07:31
ForgeAusno making the star yellow afiak sets them as a favourite or something, I don't know I don't use the star07:31
faileasectospasm: select and hit the add button?07:31
ectospasmAnd clicking the red minus removes all the widgets, from all panels, not just the ones I want to remove07:31
ectospasmfaileas: that doesn't work all the time for me, and I can't figure out why07:31
DarkriftXi have a window that died on me07:31
ForgeAusuh, really? theres another red minus somewhere... or somethings wrong or your KDE4 is different from mine07:32
DarkriftXcant get it to go away, how do i find out what process owns it?07:32
ectospasmDarkriftX: xkill07:32
ectospasmAlt-F2 and run xkill07:32
DarkriftXnice07:33
DarkriftXthx07:33
DarkriftXmaybe you guys could help with my other problem :(07:33
DarkriftXok, i have "for i in $(busybox|grep .*,.*,.*,.*); do echo $i; done" but $i always has a comma at the end. what would be the best command line method to remove the comma? (i know my regex sucks)07:33
ectospasmI'm glad that worked... had to run Alt-F2 myself to make sure it still worked07:33
ectospasmbusybox is teh suck07:33
ectospasmI hate it at work07:34
DarkriftXits for a phone lol07:34
DarkriftXthis is on the tmobile g107:34
DarkriftXlots of commands missing, we are using busybox to add them in07:34
ectospasmwhy the commas?07:34
DarkriftXbasically i want a script to read the list of all busybox commands and do "cp -s busybox $i"07:34
DarkriftXbecause all lines with 3+ commas are a list of commands07:34
DarkriftXother lines are text descriptions07:34
ectospasmyou probably want to wrap the regex in quotes, so the shell doesn't interpret the expression07:35
DarkriftXk07:35
ectospasmthat's only a guess, and the grep on the g1 may be effectively worthless07:36
DarkriftXso how do i remove a comma from $i on every line?07:36
DarkriftXits busybox grep lol07:36
DarkriftXits working though07:36
DarkriftXjust has command,07:36
ectospasmtry sed07:36
ectospasmthat's about the best I can offer, since I don't know sed07:36
ectospasmor awk07:37
ectospasmand my perl is so rusty it's not useful to anybody, even me07:37
DarkriftXhow do i say "for i in command; do this and do this; done"07:39
DarkriftXthe and part i dont know how to do07:39
DarkriftX| caused probs lol07:40
DarkriftXor is it &07:40
ectospasmDarkriftX:  cmd1 && cmd2 [&& cmd3...]07:40
ectospasmif cmd1 fails, it won't execute cmd207:41
illmortalHey guys.... I have to reinstall windows and I wanted to know if that's possible without gettin in the way of my Linux install?07:41
ardchoilleDarkriftX: http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/CondExe07:42
DarkriftXchecking07:42
faileasillmortal: look up reinstalling grub07:42
illmortalok07:42
DarkriftXoh, ok07:42
DarkriftXthx07:42
grizzancsDarkriftX: or if you don't want to stop at fail you can just use  ;07:42
DarkriftXok07:42
illmortalwait... will i need a floppy drive, faileas?07:42
faileas!grub07:43
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:43
DarkriftXi still dont see how to use awk or sed to do this07:43
faileas;)07:43
illmortalalright time to re-install winblows.07:44
illmortalbbl =\07:44
DarkriftXman07:44
ardchoilleDarkriftX: you can remove every comma from a file with:  sed -i 's/,//g' filename07:44
DarkriftXive tried everything07:45
DarkriftXits not a file07:45
DarkriftXits piped from another command07:45
DarkriftXfor i in $(busybox|grep .*,.*,.*,.*); do echo $i; done07:45
DarkriftXbut $i always has a comma at the end07:45
DarkriftXthe output is always "text,"07:45
ardchoilleDarkriftX:  try this in a terminal:  echo "this is, a test" | sed 's/,//g'07:46
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dwidmannWell, another thing that could be tried is to pipe it into tr ',' ''07:47
dwidmannhmm, seems it won't like emptyness though :\07:48
DarkriftXif i do sed anything with just "sed 'something here'" it locks up07:48
DarkriftXand i cant press ctrl+c in here07:48
DarkriftXso its a reboot07:48
DarkriftXspace would work lol07:50
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DarkriftXdamnit07:51
DarkriftXeverything i do puts me in interactive mode with something07:51
DarkriftXand i have to reboot to get out07:51
ardchoilleDarkriftX: Don't ctrl+c or "q" or Esc work?07:54
DarkriftXfor i in $(busybox|grep '.*,.*,.*,.*'); do XXXXX; done <-----what would be the format if i wanted XXXXX to 'tr "," " " | echo $output' (and what would be $output's name?07:55
DarkriftXctrl+c kills my connection to the device07:55
DarkriftXq and esc do nothing07:55
Creedhello07:55
DarkriftXscrew it07:57
Seaboyhey guys08:13
springohey08:14
springohow are you?08:14
Seaboyfine08:15
Seaboywhen I was in my kubuntu desktop. suddenly everything changed to white, and after rebooting splash screen is ok, but after logging in, again just awhite screen, what's the problem?08:15
eagle_y2hiya08:16
eagle_y2just installed kubuntu 8.1008:17
Seaboyany idea?08:17
eagle_y2but can't login08:17
eagle_y2any idea08:17
jussi01Seaboy: did you enable desktop effects?08:17
noaXesshi all.. wasup?08:18
noaXesson kubuntu planet :)08:18
eagle_y2can someone figure out watz wrong with my installation08:18
Seaboyjussi01: no, I did it before and have the same problem, but after that i've disabled it08:18
noaXessjust a question for scanning.. i use kooka for scanning documents or pics.. but with kooka i can't create a pdf directly..08:18
noaXessis there any other scan tool for kde that can directly create pdfs?08:18
eagle_y2kubuntu 8.10 is crashing after i m entering my login08:19
Seaboyjussi01: but I've installed nvidia-glx-173,08:19
vasilisaThis bug is really stressing me out, and ive googled it to death.... "Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'trash'.08:19
vasilisai cant delete files to trash using gwenview08:19
vasilisawhat does that error even mean?08:19
jussi01eagle_y2: does it crash or jsut go back to the login screen?08:20
eagle_y2it crashes08:20
Seaboyhow can I reset xorg settings to default?08:20
eagle_y2displayes KDE 4.1 one hdd icon then keyboard stops responding08:20
vasilisaSeaboy: usually sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh does it... but back up your xorg before doing that08:21
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Seaboyvasilisa: and you think it may solve my problem?08:22
vasilisaSeaboy: Perhaps. Another way is to run envy-ng, it makes xorg for you and installs the latest driver for your gfx card08:23
eagle_y2jussi01 can u figure out08:23
Seaboyvasilisa: thanks, i'm going to try it08:24
vasilisacool08:24
vasilisaahem so anyway08:24
vasilisa "Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'trash'.08:24
vasilisai dont like that bug, any ideas?08:24
ardchoillevasilisa: when do you get that error?08:25
vasilisaardchoille: When i try to delete a picture in gwenview08:25
ardchoilleok08:26
eagle_y2guys kubuntu 8.10 is crashing after i m entering my login details ? any idea08:27
ardchoilleeagle_y2: any useful info in ~/.xsession-errors ?08:27
eagle_y2not tried w8 i ll chk08:28
ardchoilleI guess not08:33
Seaboyhow can I use envy to install my driver in console mode?08:40
ardchoille!envy | Seaboy08:41
ubottuSeaboy: envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk08:41
Seaboyubottu: I have a problem with my desktop that only shows a white screen, sb told me it may help08:42
ardchoille!bot | Seaboy08:45
ubottuSeaboy: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:45
ardchoilleSeaboy: Have you tried asking in the forums?08:45
roy_how to do manual updates in kubuntu?08:46
ardchoilleroy_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:47
roy_ardchoille: is there a update manager as compare to ubuntu?08:48
noaXessif i print eg from firefox or gimp, i can't change the printing orientation: portrait or landscape.. any idea why?08:48
ardchoilleroy_: No idea, I always do it from command line08:48
Seaboyardchoille: no, I just have one desktop, and the problem happened for that, and now I'm in live mode so I need to get my answer fast08:48
ardchoilleSeaboy: there's another channel you might try08:49
ardchoille!forums | Seaboy08:49
ubottuSeaboy: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.08:49
ardchoillenoaXess: those apps are gtk-based, you might try asking in #ubuntu08:49
noaXessardchoille: okay.. but do you use firefox on kubuntu?08:50
ardchoillenoaXess: I do08:50
noaXessand printing? have you ever print a site and tried in lanscape oriantation?08:51
ardchoillebut I've never owned a printer08:51
noaXessaha :)08:51
noaXessardchoille: is there a gtk settings tool within kubuntu?08:51
ardchoillenoaXess: not for printing and the like08:52
noaXessok08:52
eagle_y2jkubuntu crashing at login any help08:53
exia_hi guys.. can anybody tell me how to disable NAT or send packets from localhost to global net? i mean my shoutcast server works perfect on localhost:8000, but i also use no-ip daemon which also works perfect... but when i try to add :8000 to my domain, it doenst want to load anything08:53
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: did you find any info in ~/.xsession-errors ?08:53
exia_so shoutcast informs me that i must disable some nat, firewall etc.08:53
eagle_y2jits says permission denied08:53
exia_yes08:54
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: aha :)08:54
eagle_y2jardchoille i tried sudo ~/.xsession-errors too08:54
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: do you get permission denied when trying to open ~/.xsession-errors?08:54
eagle_y2jthen it proclaims file not found stuff08:54
eagle_y2jyup08:55
ardchoillethere's the problem08:55
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.xsession-errors08:55
eagle_y2juser to be replaced with my user name ?08:56
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: you can run it as I posted it08:56
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: also check and see if root owns any other files in your home:  find /home/$USER -user root08:56
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: root shouldn't own anything in your home dir08:57
eagle_y2jsudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.xsession-errors results :cannot access08:57
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: ls -lha ~/.xsession-errors08:58
ardchoillewho owns that file?08:58
eagle_y2jardchoille it says no such file08:59
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: ok, you just told me that you got permission denied while trying to open that file, now you're saying it doesn't exist?09:00
exia_how should I disable NAT through shell?09:01
eagle_y2jardchoille i typed  :-   /home/$USER -user root09:01
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: find /home/$USER -user root09:01
ardchoillethat finds all files on your home owned by root09:02
eagle_y2jit results nothing09:04
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: does ~/.xsession-errors exist?09:04
eagle_y2jyes its there09:05
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: who owns it?09:05
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: open ~/.xsession-errors and see if there is any info about crashes09:05
eagle_y2jardchoille does this takes time to open ?09:07
eagle_y2jas it has accepted command but nothing turns up09:07
ardchoillewhat command did you issue?09:08
eagle_y2jopen ~/.xsession-errors09:08
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: that won't do anything, my fault for not making these commands easier09:09
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: nano ~/.xsession-errors09:09
mike-solidushey, i'm on the beta and i want to upgrade to the new stable, how do i do this? i cant use the standerd adept_manager because it no longer exists. I found out adept manager is an option but the --dist-upgrade does not work09:09
ardchoillenano is a command line editor, you can use f8 to scroll page-by-page and f7 to scroll back up09:09
exia_!NAT09:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nat09:10
eagle_y2jardchoille it opened up09:10
favromike-solidus: iirc just updating will do it09:12
ardchoillemike-solidus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:13
eagle_y2jardchoille last line of log looks like an error :--- kwin(5330) couldn't start knotify from knotify4.desktop :"KDEInit could not 1$09:13
ardchoillefavro: Thanks, I had missed his question09:13
favronp09:13
mike-solidusardchoille: hmm that only updated 2 things, which means i guess i got some problems with 8.10, my kwin crashes on startup everytime09:14
ardchoillemike-solidus: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:15
ardchoillemike-solidus: "update" updates your software sources09:15
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: I'm not sure how I can help with that09:16
eagle_y2jardchoille nyways thankx for u r kind support09:16
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: sorry I couldn't help you more, but stick around, I'm sure someone can help09:17
eagle_y2jyup! still digging google09:18
Machtinheyho.. where does korganizer store its default-calender? i want to delete every single item..09:19
ardchoilleMachtin: I was just working with that. Try ~/.kde/share/config/kresources/calendar09:20
eagle_y2jkubuntu crashing after entering login any help ?09:20
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: I'm pretty sure it's kwin (the kde window manager) that's causing the problem.09:20
Machtinthanks09:22
eagle_y2jyup i too think so the kwin loading screen is crashing and hanging my keyboard09:22
* DreadKnight @ anyone knows a good pixel font creator* ?09:22
eagle_y2jardchoille it looks somewhat same to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/28195009:24
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ardchoilleMachtin: That wasn't it, I found the correct file: ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics09:25
Machtinardchoille: so did i.. but you led me to it :) thanks09:25
ardchoilleyw :)09:25
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: sounds like it09:27
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eagle_y2jbut really i can't figure out is it fixed or still a bug09:28
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: it's clearly still a bug09:30
ardchoilleeagle_y2j: Give it some time, I'm sure the devs are working on it09:30
eagle_y2jardchoille just wasted 700mb for kubuntu09:35
eagle_y2jseems i hav to switch back to suse09:36
stefan__!vnc09:36
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX09:36
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ardchoilleeagle_y2j: Hold on, Hardy is quite stable, I'm sticking with Hardy until 9.0409:36
ardchoillein fact Hardy impressed me enough to draw me completely away from gnome09:37
eagle_y2jhmmm.. is there any known issue for  i845 board09:37
ardchoilleI don't know, I've never seen many bugs in Dapper, Gutsy or Hardy09:38
eagle_y2jardchoille" hopes so and +ve for my hardy test09:40
shoaibHello...09:50
shoaibcud anyone help me with gyachi09:51
shoaibi some how disabled viewing offline buddies09:51
shoaibi.e.. only online buddies are visible...09:51
shoaibhow to change the setting for viewing the offline buddies too09:52
shoaibHellllllloooooooooo09:52
JP-sNL3shoaib: it'll be in your setting probably, but i don't know/use gyachi09:54
woody86how can I make Konversation start when the computer starts?09:57
JP-sNL3woody86: heh... good question, but i don't shut konversation down when i shutdown kubuntu and that makes it re-appear when i boot into kubuntu afterwards10:06
JP-sNL3that probably is not the best way but it works for now10:06
JP-sNL3hihi10:06
JP-sNL3;-)10:06
woody86JP-sNL3: oh, I didn't know it did that automatically :D Are you putting your system in hibernate, or fully shutting down?10:07
faileasfully shutting down10:08
faileasit rememebers10:08
woody86does anyone know how to get the 5-A-Day applet showing? It's installed, but not listed under my applets??10:11
JP-sNL3woody86: i shut it down completely since i move back and forth from kubuntu to win98se on a multiboot box here10:12
woody86JP-sNL3: ah, ok :) good to know10:12
JP-sNL3woody86: but i am sure there must be a proper way to startup programs when logging in10:13
* JP-sNL3 is quite new at this kubuntu stuff but has been playing around with linux for some time: they are all different! hahaha10:14
Seaboyplease help me get my desktop back, I just have a white screen after logging in10:15
JP-sNL3Seaboy: this is a wild guess mind, but try [Alt]+[F2] and enter kicker... it works on my knoppix kde...10:17
SeaboyJP-sNL3: alt+f2 doesn't work, but I can use it in console mode, I'll try it, but what doea this command do?10:19
JP-sNL3it re-starts the desktop i think10:20
JP-sNL3...or redraws10:20
JP-sNL3aaah, wait a minute... your not into X windows at all are you Seaboy?10:21
JP-sNL3you just have console mode don't you?10:21
belimi am having a few issues with display management. I am running on a Dell E6500 laptop and when plugging in a vga monitor or dvi one using the docking station it doest work well at all! the external display is really glitchy and unusable!10:21
jussi01Seaboy: which version are you on?10:21
Seaboyjussi01: no, splash screen is ok and after logging in, nothing. 8.1010:23
ardchoillethe command "kicker" won't work on kde4 will it?10:24
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jussi01ardchoille: nope10:25
ardchoillethat's what I thought10:25
jussi01Seaboy: go to /.kde/share/config/kwinrc and check that compositing is not enabled:10:25
jussi01[Compositing]10:25
jussi01Enabled=true10:25
SeaboyJP-sNL3: no, splash screen is ok and after logging in, nothing.10:26
jussi01that is enabled ^^10:26
marekthi what is the easyest way to share files between two linux computers?10:26
marekt*easiest10:26
jussi01marekt: sftp10:26
marektis it gui?10:26
faileasmarekt: if they both run KDE, i tend to use fish. else i have a common SMB server for my network.10:27
Seaboyjussi01: it's not, I,m sure I've disabled it10:27
JP-sNL3Seaboy: do what jussi01 suggests10:27
jussi01Seaboy: just check please10:27
jussi01marekt: just open konqueror and do sftp://ip.address.of.machine10:28
marektfaileas i tried gfish bbut i get only "could not connect to host"10:28
marektjussi01 i opened it and i can see a dialog with error about problem with sh10:28
marektsomething on router?10:28
Seaboyjussi01, JP-sNL3: this is the whole content of the file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/67842/10:32
andy151Hi guys. Just thinking about upgrading from 8.04 REMIX to 8.10. Can anyone tell me, does 8.10 use/upgrade the .kde4 directory, or will it upgrade my old kde3 .kde directory? I'd like it to use my .kde4 (even if that involves renaming it etc)10:35
marektok i done it with installind openssh-server10:35
marektcan you tell me about the speed? it is awful - about 40 kBps, should be much much more10:35
Seaboyjussi01: any idea?10:35
SeaboyJP-sNL3: any idea?10:35
jussi01Seaboy: what did you do to cause this? what were your actions last time it was working?10:36
Seaboyjussi01: I've installed nvidia-glx-173, but after that I worked with it for hours, and suddenly screen got white, i'm sure I didn't do any thing in that moment,10:38
jussi01Seaboy: I would try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:40
jussi01Seaboy: although that might land you at busybox when booting afterwards10:40
SeaboySeaboy: I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg phigh, but nothing changed10:41
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Seaboyjussi01: I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg phigh, but nothing changed10:43
jussi01Seaboy: I have one other suggestion, but its a little drastic and means you will lose all of your kde settings, but you can try: mv .kde .kdeold10:43
* JP-sNL3 is clueless at this point... wow... although i notice that the suggestion jussi01 makes does NOT include phigh10:43
Seaboyjussi01: thanks, I'm gonna try it10:46
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studentehjjjk10:52
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belimdoes anyone know how to get the intel X4500HD fully functioning ?10:53
belimi have a standard install of kubuntu 8.1010:53
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_virgio_andrewwwwwwwww10:54
MoLkinaciaooooo10:54
_virgio_mylove10:54
MoLkinake figata10:54
MoLkinama ke cavolo [_10:54
MoLkina}[__10:54
MoLkinaè??10:54
_virgio_e cioè????10:54
_virgio_ah10:54
_virgio_puppa10:54
belimusing intel_agp as far as i can tell10:54
_virgio_ciao belim10:54
_virgio_xD10:54
MoLkinaki sei?10:55
belim_virgio_ what?10:55
_virgio_ciao belim10:55
MoLkina??10:55
_virgio_nothing belim10:55
_virgio_mofux?10:56
samposuomen kielisiä paikalla?10:56
MoLkinama ki è sta gente?10:56
belimthe build in compiz stuff doesnt work overly well, and plugging in external LCD displays with vga or dvi through the docking station (its a dell e6500 laptop) the display is really glitchy!10:56
studente_non lo so10:56
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_virgio_studente?10:56
m4dn4n0io10:56
favro!it | _virgio_ MoLkina10:56
ubottu_virgio_ MoLkina: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)10:56
_virgio_ah, ciao roghiiiiiiii10:56
MoLkinaciao roghi!10:56
mofuxyo?10:56
m4dn4n0alleluia10:56
_virgio_ah, srry10:57
_virgio_*sorry10:57
favronp10:57
MoLkinawhy?10:57
_virgio_we must speak in english10:57
MoLkinaoi10:57
sampookay10:57
_virgio_hi sampo10:57
sampohi10:57
_virgio_how are you?10:58
maxxeris there any way to keep icon placement on kde4 in desktop view?10:58
_virgio_eh?10:58
sampoI am just loading my first ubuntu program10:58
sampookay -kubuntu10:59
lokaiuh what replaced the "scale" effect in KDE 4?11:07
jussi01Seaboy: so no luck?11:11
Seaboyjussi01: no11:12
Seaboyjussi01: this is my xorg.0.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/67858/11:12
jussi01Seaboy: pastebin your xorg.conf please11:13
Seaboyjussi01: here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/67859/11:16
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jussi01Seaboy: and you said you were using nvidia binary driver?11:17
Seaboy jussi01: yes, but after this problem I tried to remove it in console mode, and I don't know if it is removed or not, because there were some errors11:18
jussi01yeah, it is because its using the nv driver now. I would say try installing the binary driver again, then running nvidias config util - i think its called nvidia-xconfig11:20
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Seaboyjussi01: you mean I should install nvidia-glx-legacy ?11:22
jussi01Seaboy: which card do you have?11:22
Seaboy jussi01: geforce fx550011:22
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jussi01Seaboy: and you had legacy on that before? or?11:23
Seaboyno, I've installed 17311:24
Seaboyjussi01: no, I've installed 17311:26
jussi01Seaboy: 1 sec11:28
ardchoilleKernel update for 8.1011:29
ardchoillehttp://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-662-111:30
ardchoilleGotta love akregator :)11:30
jussi01Seaboy: no, please reinstall the one you had11:31
Seaboy jussi01: ok thanks11:32
zenois it possible to switch back to ktorrent kde3? when I upgraded to 8.10 it upgraded it to kde4 ver and that crashes a TON11:32
jussi01Seaboy: then after installing, run nvidia-xconfig11:32
jussi01zeno: dont think so - although there should be an update to it soon - saw something on the devel list about it11:33
shakaIs anyone having a few sound problems with ibex?11:33
jussi01!anyone | shaka11:34
ubottushaka: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:34
shakaMy startup sound starts then ends abruptly, and also the on-screen sound indicator bar does not work. Anyone with the same issues? Kubuntu ibex on acer aspire 5720ZG11:36
ardchoillejussi01: what exactly does nvidia-xconfig do? Does it just edit xorg.conf to add the driver?11:37
dwidmannardchoille: more or less11:37
ardchoillethought so11:37
dwidmannardchoille: has a number of useful switches for what will be added to it as well11:38
ardchoilleoh, nice11:38
jussi01shaka: right click the sound icon in your tray, then select master channel to select the correct channel that controls your card.11:38
shakajussi01: I did and right now"front" is selected. Should it be anything other than that?11:40
dwidmannshaka: I would think it might be "master" or "pcm" ... if there are options for such11:41
jussi01shaka: its dependant on your machine, many use front, some use pcm others master - have a play11:41
shakajussi01: Wow thanks. I tried Most and PCM is the right one11:41
gangakubuntu always defaults to 800x640 resolution during reboot?11:41
jussi01shaka: :)11:41
gangahow come anyone got any idea?11:42
shakadwidmann: thanks for your input too. This place rocks11:42
gangaanyone's desktop acting that way?11:42
maxxeris there any way to keep icon placement on kde4 in desktop folder view?11:42
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amdpoxWhat's the easiest way to get KDE4.2 (snapshot or dev repository, don't care) running on kubuntu 8.10?11:43
jussi01amdpox: wait? :D11:44
ardchoille:)11:44
amdpoxhehe11:44
amdpoxprobably won't be stable before jaunty :P11:44
amdpoxalso, is there an oxygen theme for qt3?11:44
amdpoxall the kde3 apps look like plastiky ass11:45
dwidmannWhich reminds me, my sound card is a bit weird .... http://www.xnowherex.com/images/kmix.png11:46
jussi01amdpox: I think there is  - have a look on kdelook11:50
digganga: did you mean even you change the resolution, but it won't persist11:52
zirodayHi, I can't find kooka anymore. Where did it go?11:53
gangadig: it wont persist11:54
ardchoilleziroday: I don't think it exists in the repos11:54
zirodayardchoille: it did before11:54
jussi01!info skanlite | ziroday11:54
ubottuziroday: skanlite (source: skanlite): KDE 4 image scanning application. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2-kde4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1185 kB, installed size 1608 kB11:54
gangadig: when i go to the displayof system settings it changes again, so i have to do this every boot11:54
ardchoilleziroday:  yes, but the repos change with new releases now and then11:54
zirodayjussi01: thanks :), didn't realise it got renamed11:54
jussi01:)11:54
ardchoilleI must have missed that memo11:55
zirodayjussi01: you might want to update the !scanners factoid11:55
jussi01!scanners11:56
ubottuScanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR11:56
digI am not sure about this. Did you try System->KRandRTray Screen Resize & Rotate11:56
gangadig lemme try that, lemme restart11:57
amdpoxwhoa, any reason adept doesn't listen to system settings for font sizes?11:59
jussi01!scanners11:59
ubottuScanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Skanlite (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR11:59
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exia_can anyone help me? i have a problem with access from internet, no one can access or just ping my serv... localhost works good, i can even open my web-site through domain name (no-ip.com), but in general its not opened to public... :(12:09
exia_i have NAT switched on, firewall..hmm, only iptables, configured by the documentation, so web traffic should go but it doenst12:11
blackflagHello alll :) how can I start VNC before login as a user. I want to see kdm over vnc and want to login than12:11
blackflagor is there another solution?12:11
blackflagcan someone help?12:11
lokaiwhat replaces the 'scale' effect in KDE 4?12:15
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woody86how can I change the name of my network device from eth2 to wlan0?12:25
mefisto__I can't seem to load comments on any pages from www.guardian.co.uk    can someone try to load a page with comments on firefox or konqueror (e.g. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/18/foundthedustbinofhistory )12:30
exia_hey guys12:33
exia_do i really need to have the same information from "route" in /etc/networks ?12:33
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lokaiok...does anyone know how to get the scale effect workign on kwin outof the box kde 4?12:36
exia_sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeping...12:36
lokaiok...does anyone know how to get the scale effect workign on kwin outof the box kde 4?12:37
JontheEchidnalokai: move your mouse to the top left corner12:40
aapzaklokai: ctrl-F10 does the same12:40
JontheEchidnathe effect is called "Present Windows" in KWin12:40
digmefisto__: it works for me12:41
aapzakall windows, including the ones on other desktops12:41
mefisto__dig: did you try firefox or konqueror?12:42
aapzakI need some help with konsole. I dislike the appearance. Monospace 8 does not do the same for me as monospace 8 on gnome-terminal12:43
aapzakit seems konsole takes more vertical spacing12:43
digmefisto__: FF12:43
lokaiaapzak: it doesn't work, either one.12:44
lokaineither do my shortcut kets from 8.04/kde312:44
aapzaklokai: in that case you might not have desktop effects12:44
lokaikwin is installed...12:44
aapzakthat functionality is part of the eyecandy I think12:44
lokaiaapzak: could you elaborate?12:45
aapzaklokai: I stepped in after you asked your question, what is it exactly?12:45
lokaiok...does anyone know how to get the scale effect workign on kwin outof the box kde 4?12:45
aapzakyou should check your system settings: desktop -> desktop effects, tab all effects12:46
lokaiwhere is scale?12:47
lokaiit is not on the list.12:47
JontheEchidnathe effect is called "Present Windows" in KWin, as I said before12:47
aapzakthatone I see inthere12:47
lokaisorry JontheEchidna, must have missed that.12:47
lokailets try.12:47
JontheEchidna;-)12:47
amdpoxis it normal for kwin4 with compositing to be lots, lots slower than compiz?12:48
aapzakclick on the wrench, see if you have any keys or locations set12:48
aapzakamdpox: is always has been12:48
amdpoxok then12:48
aapzakamdpox: actually it has gotten much much better recently , but not as fast as compiz yet12:48
lokaiok, it doesn't work though -- they hotkeys/hotcorners do nothing12:48
amdpoxno shiny-but-integrated-with-kde4 effects for me then :(12:48
lokaiyes, everything is enabled.12:48
aapzaklokai: you have shortcuts? and they don't work?12:49
lokaithat is correct, aapzak12:49
aapzakweird :)12:49
lokaiPOS kde4.12:50
aapzaklokai: maybe you don't have accelerated desktop, is your videocard supported?12:51
aapzakcan you run glxgears at a reasonable rate?12:51
lokaiyes.12:51
cuznt!glxgears12:51
ubottuTo display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears' in a terminal.12:51
lokaii had compiz working fine, as well.12:51
aapzakin that case ... I cannot help you12:51
aapzakI'm sorry but I'm by no means a (k)ubuntu expert12:52
aapzakwhich brings me back to my own question, anyone here with some konsole experience, especially tweaking the app itself?12:52
aapzakplease, anyone? I can't believe I'm using gnome-terminal in kde  :)12:55
scribblesI just did 22 updates through adept and now my Kubuntu is Ubuntu!13:05
* exia_ is away: Gone away for now13:08
scribblesanyone else having the new updates problem?13:10
kalorin[08:06] <scribbles> I just did 22 updates through adept and now my Kubuntu is Ubuntu!13:15
kalorinwas it 8.10 or something else?13:15
Koordinhi, i have here a very confusing problem : i've upgraded to 8.10 and now the display on my desktop is totally buggy : there are some black lines that appears every second everywhere on the screen ; my drivers are up-to-date (nvidia-glx-177) and i've already try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop or xserver-xorg ; could someone help me please ?13:26
lokaiKDE 4 is such a POS. Holy shit. Its unusuable after I upgraded from KDE3.13:31
jussi01!ohmy | lokai13:31
ubottulokai: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:31
kalorinI actually like 4 better13:31
lokaiohmy13:31
kalorinbut I've been using it a while side by side with 313:31
lokaiohmy13:31
kalorinwhat video chipset do you have?13:32
lokaiintel integrated stuff13:32
scribblesis there a guide posted on creating users and giving them login access via ssh?13:32
lokaiscribbles: just used addusr13:32
lokaiadduser *13:32
lokai!adduser13:32
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo13:32
scribblesthis will allow them to login remotely via PuTTy?13:33
lokaiyes13:33
lokaiI HATE KDE413:33
kalorinwhat specifically do you hate about it?13:33
lokainone of the effects work (they ARE enabled), not of my previous hotkeys work13:33
lokaiand there is no minimize/maximize button13:33
lokaiHAR HAR13:33
kalorinthe only real complaint that I've got is that some of the stuff that you put in the panels doesn't size well when the panel is put on the side of the screen rather than on top and bottom13:33
lokaiits a broken system for me.13:34
lokaino idea why13:34
kalorinbut that's almost more a complaint about this stupid 16:9 aspect that everything is going to13:34
lokaiNO IDEA13:34
scribbleswhats the default port for putty/ssh?13:34
jussi01lokai: whichh version are you using?13:34
jussi01scribbles: 2213:34
lokaijussi01: the latest13:34
stdinschmidtm: ssh uses port 22, make sure your server has the "ssh" package installed13:34
kalorinso 8.10?13:34
kalorindid you do a clean install or an upgrade?13:34
lokaiupgrade13:34
lokaiand yes, 8.1013:34
kalorincause kde4 isn't going to be compatible with the old kde3 settings in a lot of cases I'm thinking13:35
kalorinso you're going to need to go set things up13:35
lokaiapparently not. but it shouldn't let you 'upgrade' if it needs a 'clean install'13:35
kalorinthe widgets on the desktop and stuff are all new and really different form the kde3 versions13:35
lokai'upgrade' ~= 'clean install'13:35
lokaiidiots.13:35
kalorinwell13:35
lokai(not you all)13:35
kalorinyou've upgraded teh OS in all fairness13:35
kalorinand kde4 is installed, it likely used what settings were similar and it could figure out13:35
kalorinbut it's not going to magically transform your previous settings from kde3 apps into kde4 apps settings and make it 100% the same13:36
kalorinthat be an awful lot to ask13:36
lokaidon't expect it to. I expect it to be usuable, though.13:36
kalorinati video card?13:36
bazhanglokai, it is usable.13:36
lokaino, integreated intel13:36
kalorindo you ahve the HUGE font thing going on?13:36
bazhanglokai, this is a support channel; do you have an actual support question13:36
lokaino, I had tiny font at the beginning. THAT was one thing I could change13:37
kalorinwhere you can't get the windows text to a font size that's under like 1/4 of the screen?13:37
lokaibazhang: I've asked already, no one can help. Can you? haha.13:37
kalorinoh I had the HUGe font thing going when I did my laptop to 8.0413:37
bazhanglokai, I see no questions.13:38
lokaifine. here goes13:38
kalorinI keep thinking about doing this machine with kde4 version but it's a work machine and I really want to wait another week or two to let some more patches come out13:38
kalorinthough my 8.04 remix install on the laptop at home is super solid13:38
scribblesI did apt-get autoremove proftpd and reloaded KUser but there's still a proftpd user in the menu, is it safe to remove it?13:38
ralphohide panel change width not length cashew sliders dont do that. how to.13:39
lokaiWhy can I not configure keybindings? (They are there, but don't work) Why do no desktop effects work? (They are enabled) Why can I not see a minimize/maximize/close toolbar on my GUI apps?13:39
lokaithere goes my question13:39
stdinscribbles: it's probably safe, but there's no real need to remove it. it does no harm13:39
lokai;)13:39
jussi01!netsplit13:39
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit13:39
ralphoah man13:40
scribblesthanks stdin13:40
lokaiwhee yet again13:40
lokaiWhy can I not configure keybindings? (They are there, but don't work) Why do no desktop effects work? (They are enabled) Why can I not see a minimize/maximize/close toolbar on my GUI apps?13:40
kalorinperhaps you've got a theme selected that's no longer part of the distribution?13:41
Koordinhi, i have here a very confusing problem : i've upgraded to 8.10 and now the display on my desktop is totally buggy : there are some black lines that appears every second everywhere on the screen ; my drivers are up-to-date (nvidia-glx-177) and i've already try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop or xserver-xorg ; could someone help me please ?13:41
kalorinbtw, has anyone had any issues with 64bit 8.10?13:41
bazhanglokai, you have compiz running?13:41
ralphopanel can you change width not length and hide it or not13:41
lokaibazhang: No. I tried to do that, it didn't seem to work either. Right now, compiz is not on my machine.13:41
scribbleswhen adding a user in KUser what is the Account Disabled default checked for?13:42
bazhanglokai, you are referring to native kde4 desktop effects then?13:42
ralphogood thing there is still gnome in the mean time13:42
lokaibazhang: yes, the native kwin effects.13:44
lokaibut its totally broken anyways, even without the effects13:44
bazhanglokai, perhaps your machine is older and not up to the requirements.13:44
lokaibullsh13:45
scribbleshow do I ensure that the new user I'm creating in KUser does not have access to sudo, by default it seems as if they're on the same level as I am13:45
lokaiI was runnign kde3/8.04 fine13:45
lokaiwith all the glx effects.13:45
bazhanglokai, try lxde13:45
lokaibazhang: do you know what you're talking about?13:45
zbenjaminhi guys13:45
bazhanglokai, lxde is much easier on ram, and cpu cycles13:45
bazhangsudo apt-get install lxde13:46
zbenjamini just updated to the newest kubuntu release, but after the last update i cannot login anymore i always taken back to the login screen13:46
lokaibazhang: Nice 'support', thanks bud.13:46
lokaiYou should recommend I install windows, its easier.13:46
jussi01zbenjamin: from the kubuntu release notes: Can not login after upgrade from Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4 Remix. After an upgrade from Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4 Remix, logging in will return directory to the login screen again. The x-session-manager alternative link is not correctly updated. Select "KDE" from the Session Menu before logging in and fix it with update-alternatives --set x-session-manager /usr/bin/startkde. (Bug 287488).13:47
bazhanglokai, what system specs13:47
jussi01lokai: you can try resetting your settings by renaming the ~/.kde  folder.13:48
lokaijussi01: I'll try that.13:48
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scribbleshow do I ensure that the new user I created cannot access sudo?13:49
jussi01lokai: best do that while you are logged out - from a tty. after that login again13:49
lokaiall right I can ssh in from another machine. What are the problems if I mv while in this session?13:49
lokaiscribbles: don't tell them the password.13:50
Piciscribbles: Do not put them in the admin group.13:50
jussi01lokai: as its the "curret working dir" for settings, it can sometimes not mv cleanly/ have things written to it from the old settings13:50
lokaikk, be back13:50
zbenjaminbtw where does kdm store the last used windowmanager?13:51
zbenjamini realized if i change the wm when logged in it will load the last used one13:52
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zbenjaminso i used kwin in my last xfce session and now it always crashes when i try to login :(13:54
lokaijussi01: Thanks for the suggestion, it seems to have fixed all the problems. I wish they would warn users that they can't migrate their kde3 settings to kde4.13:54
jussi01lokai: there is some stuff in the release notes, sometimes it does funky things. it happens with a new major release.13:55
bibsthasunwukong: hello14:02
lokaihm I closed the 'panel' that is at the bottom of the screen by default. I've added one, but it added to the top of the screen. How do I move it down to the bottom?14:09
kalorinclick the little crescent thing14:10
kalorinwhen that opens the "settings" menu thingy you can then drag it to the side of the screen you want it on14:10
kalorinits' not very intuitive and I didn't realize how to do that for a while14:10
lokaigot it, thanks14:11
lokaimy keybindings still don't work14:11
mrhjkimHi.14:11
kalorincan't help there, sorry, I don't use keybindings14:11
mrhjkimI got some problem in sound driver and internal mic is not working and I searched internet and succeded in making it work.14:12
* bluecopper greets everyone with humility14:12
mrhjkimbut after rebooting, it also have the same problem.14:13
xompcan someone tell me how to remove KDE from a system? My mom is rather fond of Gnome and I put KDE on a while back and she wants it off to gain the disk space back.14:13
lokaihm, whats the kwin effect for (make this window transparent with I drag it)14:13
lokaixomp: couldn't you just use your package manager to get rid of it?14:15
xomplokai, not sure, I used "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" but it pushed down like 700+Mb of other files with it. If I "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" it only removes like 50MB of the total 700+MB it downloaded :(14:15
lokaiapt get remove kde14:16
mrhjkimI can make sound card work by this command "modprobe snd-hda-intel model=lg"14:16
lokaikubuntu-desktop package is ubuntu+KDE, I suspect.14:16
bluecopperi have a problem with kopete14:16
mrhjkimbut how I configure to make it work after reboot14:16
bazhang!puregnome14:17
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome »14:17
bluecoppereverytime i try to use kopete the system slows up and the completely freezes14:17
bluecoppereverytime i try to use kopete the system slows up and then completely freezes14:18
kalorinlooks like it might make you repeat your typing too....14:18
kalorin;)14:18
kalorinbluecopper, remove it's configuration if you can14:18
kalorinit'll be in the .kde directory in your homedirectory14:19
kalorinjust do cd .kde14:19
kalorinfind . -name "*kopete*"14:19
bluecopperwell wud a config file be create if the no accounts have been created yet14:19
kalorinand move it to whatever it's name .bak14:19
kalorinand restart it14:19
kalorinyeah14:19
kalorinit's still going to store location on the desktop to open and size of the window and styles and all that jaz14:20
kalorinjazz14:20
bluecoppero i c14:20
bluecopperwill try that and let u know14:20
kalorinsure14:20
lokaianyone get a keybinding for konsole to work under kde4?14:21
scribblesI created a user and I want them to be able to ssh via putty into my box, is ssh installed/enabled by default in kubuntu?14:24
scribblesif not, which package do I get?14:24
Piciscribbles: install the ssh package for the server and client.14:24
sysstemlordhey guys, does anybody have a problem with firefox not seeing flash player 10?14:25
sysstemlordand the problem is not from the location of the plugin14:25
lokai~ssh14:25
lokai!ssh14:25
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/14:25
SlyliasHow can I disable my wireless card? I want to disable the internal wireless card on this laptop and use the USB one instead.14:26
mefisto__sysstemlord: you mean flash 10 is not installed in firefox? it doesn't appear in about:plugins ??14:26
Seaboyjussi01: hi, remember me?14:26
sysstemlordit doesn't14:26
sysstemlordi installed it from adept, and from the debian package14:27
mefisto__sysstemlord: and there is no other flash plugin listed?14:27
sysstemlordi even tried one thing, installed flash 9, and just replaced the file with that of flash ten, it disappeared from about:plugins14:28
sysstemlordno other14:28
lokaianyone have an idea why my keybinding for konsole isn't working?14:28
mefisto__sysstemlord: does /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so exist?14:29
SlyliasHow can I disable my wireless card? I want to disable the internal wireless card on this laptop and use the USB one instead.14:29
sysstemlordnow it does because i have flash 914:29
sysstemlordshould i remove 9 and try?14:30
kalorinso does anyone have any experience with the 64bit Kubuntu 8.10 yet?14:30
kalorinany real gotcha's that make it less usable than the 32bit one?14:30
kalorinalso, running core 2 duo chips, you're 64bit compatible right?14:30
mefisto__sysstemlord: but is flash 9 working in firefox?14:31
sysstemlordyes14:31
mefisto__sysstemlord: I installed flash 10 by just replacing libflashplayer.so v9 with the 10 version14:31
sysstemlordi tried that14:32
sysstemlordbefore replacing the file, it works in firefox14:33
sysstemlordbut after replacing the file14:33
sysstemlordit disappears14:33
mefisto__sysstemlord: after replacing libflashplayer.so, did you restart firefox?14:34
sysstemlordyes of course, but only didn't restart the whole computer14:34
mefisto__sysstemlord: do you have /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ?? On mine, that is a link to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so14:35
mefisto__sysstemlord: also, /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin is linked to  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so14:37
sysstemlordi have it linking to /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin14:37
sysstemlordwhich links to your file14:38
mefisto__mozilla-flashplugin also links to  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so here14:38
sysstemlordyeah, that's the case, and now when i tried opening konqueror, it has flash 9 loaded14:39
sysstemlordbut the file has been replaced14:39
sysstemlordbut anyway, it doesn't seem to work in konqueror either14:39
sysstemlordbut in konquror i don't get a message from youtube that flash is not installed, it just doesn't load the video14:40
mefisto__sysstemlord: you can specify where konqueror looks for plugins and in what order. in settings, configure konqueror, plugins14:40
sysstemlorddoes flash 10 require any other updates to the system?14:42
sysstemlordbecause the problem seems to be not only in firefox14:42
xompthanks bazhang14:42
aaroncampbellEvery time I need to reboot my newly upgraded 8.10 system, I have to run "compiz --replace &" ...in 8.04 I had a symbolic link in ~/.kde/Autostart/  to  /usr/bin/compiz14:43
mefisto__sysstemlord: you can untangle this web of symlinks and get it working, but if you have libflashplayer.so (or a symlink) in ~/.mozilla/plugins I think what's in there takes precedence over everything else. but that's only a per-user solution14:44
aaroncampbellThat doesn't seem to work anymore...specifically, it seems to start and then die? (Wobbly Windows and my Rotating Cube seem to work at first, then stop as things are still loading)14:44
sysstemlordi'm gonna copy the file directly to firefox14:45
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kalorinI can't even download the install cd for 8.10 right now14:49
kalorinI click the download button on the download page after picking a mirror and it just sits there14:50
sysstemlordno help14:50
vcxcvhi. how can I check the details of an ext3 partition, such as indoe size etc?14:51
vcxcvinode size*14:51
geniivcxcv: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/<partition-name>14:53
geniikalorin: Have you tried to wget it yet?14:53
vcxcvty14:53
geniivcxcv: np14:54
sysstemlordi removed all link flash related and installed from the deb package, but this of course didn't change anything14:54
sysstemlordthe problem seems to be from the plugin itself14:54
lokaikeybindings are a mess in kde4.14:55
mefisto__sysstemlord: I have 2 computers running ubuntu with flash 10 running if firefox, seamonkey and konqueror without problems14:57
sysstemlordwould it be a difference if it's kubuntu?14:58
mefisto__sysstemlord: no. I have kubuntu and xfce and flash 10 runs on either14:58
sysstemlordbut if it can work, then it should really work if i replace the flash player 9 file with that of flash 1014:59
sysstemlordbecause it must be found14:59
mefisto__sysstemlord: was firefox installed from repos?15:00
sysstemlordi believe so, but it's in a strange folder called firefox-3.0.1, and when i install flash, it created a new folder called only firefox, but the same happens with flash 9 and it still works15:01
mefisto__sysstemlord: is this folder in your home dir?15:02
sysstemlordin /usr/lib15:02
jussi01Seaboy: yes, i remember you :)15:04
mefisto__sysstemlord: I have firefox and firefox-3.0.3 and firefox-addons15:05
sysstemlordi have this firefox-addons too, and inside it a link to the plugin folder inside mozilla15:06
noobstyleHi :) Do i need AntiVirus, AntiSpyware, AntiSpam, Firewall on Kubuntu?15:06
LjL!virus15:06
ubottuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2115:06
LjL!firewall15:06
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).15:06
noobstyle!spyware15:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about spyware15:07
noobstyle!spam15:07
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LjL!msg the bot15:07
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scribblesI'm following this here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto I created the SSH keys and have a public/private key now, is the public key only available to me as a user, do I login as each user and create a keypair for that user as well in their home directory following these instructions?15:07
noobstyleso no need to install anything :D?15:07
geniinoobstyle: No antivirus is really needed unless you are scanning files you will later be using in Windows or so. Firewall is a good idea if you do the ISP login on your computer and not from a router.15:07
LjLnoobstyle: not really15:07
noobstyleisp login?15:08
noobstylei have a router - Dlink 12015:08
noobstyleDir-120 it's called i think..15:08
LjLnoobstyle: most DSL/cable routers act as NAT firewalls15:08
geniinoobstyle: Then your computer does not have an external IP on the internet, just the router does15:08
noobstylenice :)15:08
noobstyleSo no need for firewall?15:08
sysstemlordi'm installing now a package called flashplayer-mozilla, inside flash 915:08
sysstemlordi'll see what happens15:08
geniinoobstyle: Not usually but you can still put one on if it makes you feel better :)15:09
gbrandstoetteri am tryin to establish a vpn connection, but i receive that error: "ISAKMP from unexpected address XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX" what does it mean?15:09
noobstylegenii: which one should i install? should i do it from Adept?15:09
LjL!software | noobstyle15:10
ubottunoobstyle: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents15:10
noobstyleits Kubuntu15:10
mefisto__sysstemlord: do you have /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so ?? that's a link to /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin here (which links to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so )15:10
LjLnoobstyle: you can use any method to install software on your computer, as long as it relies on APT, Ubuntu's software management backend15:10
LjLnoobstyle: that includes Adept, apt-get and aptitude, among others15:10
geniinoobstyle: The usual ones are Firestarter and Guarddog15:10
noobstyleWhich one then :D?15:10
lokaisudo apt-get install <program>15:11
LjL!firewall | noobstyle, this talks about both gnome and kde, pick your choice15:11
ubottunoobstyle, this talks about both gnome and kde, pick your choice: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).15:11
geniinoobstyle: For Kubuntu Adept is the default package manager15:11
LjLnoobstyle: although personally, i'd say don't bother.15:11
noobstyleYes. But i'm not sure what Gnome and Guarddog is15:11
noobstyleI use homebanking etc.. i want to be safe15:11
lokaiGnome is a desktop environment15:11
noobstyleyeS?15:11
sysstemlordyes that's what i have15:11
lokaiKDE is another desktop environment15:11
LjLnoobstyle: GNOME is the desktop environment used on Ubuntu, KDE is the one used on Kubuntu.15:12
noobstyleso i should take KDE?15:12
LjLnoobstyle: i'd do that.15:12
noobstyleguarddog it is then15:12
LjLnoobstyle: keep in mind that just blindly putting random security-related stuff on your computer doesn't automagically make you safe from attacks15:12
noobstyleDo i have to change anything to make my kubuntu kde ?15:12
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lokaiif you installed kubuntu, you are running KDE by default.15:12
noobstyleok LjL.. :) should i make any changes before i install guarddog then?15:12
LjLif your router is doing NAT firewalling, then there's most likely not any reason to drop packets on your computer itself15:13
noobstyleinstalling Guarddog now :)15:13
LjLnoobstyle, as i said, Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE15:13
LjL!flavors15:13
ubottu!GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu15:13
lokaiif you didn't have KDE (or another desktop environment), then you would not have any graphical output15:13
noobstyleok.15:13
noobstyleit is installed now.15:13
noobstyle!styling15:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about styling15:13
noobstyle!style15:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about style15:13
LjL!fishing15:13
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".15:13
noobstyle!vpn15:14
ubottuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD15:14
geniinoobstyle: Just make sure you are choosing KDE as default session when logging in :)15:14
lokailol I HATE kde 415:14
noobstylelogging in? i disabled password on login15:14
LjLlokai: do you have a question for us?15:14
noobstylei dont understand.. choosing kde ?15:14
lokaiSure LjL: why doesn't my keybinding for firefox work?15:14
LjLlokai: i don't know, what keybinding would that be for a start?15:15
lokaialt f15:15
LjLnoobstyle, if you're running Kubuntu (and not Ubuntu, and never installed ubuntu-desktop), then you're using KDE.15:15
lokaithere is quite a mess with how kde4 handles keybindings, in general.15:15
noobstyleOk LjL. It have this VPN service called Relakks. It is PPTP VPN. Do you know how to set it up?15:16
lokaikglobalshortcutrc keeps getting appended, seemingly every time I access the gui keyboard shortcuts in systemsettings.15:16
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lokainoobstyle: you can see what you are running by typing in "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" in the konsole.15:18
noobstylelokai it just says -SESSION15:18
noobstylenow it says default :D15:19
lokaiexport | grep DESKTOP_SESSION15:20
lokaishrug15:21
lokai!fishing15:22
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".15:22
LjLlokai: i can't use input actions on my Hardy, either.15:23
lokaiYep.15:23
lokaiHence my original comment15:23
lokaithere are other problems15:23
lokaibut this is pretty major15:23
lokaifor me, anyways.15:24
LjLwell you should file a bug, this is clearly not correct behavior15:24
bazhang!bugs15:24
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots15:24
lokaiI find it very difficult to understand how something so fundamental could be overlooked15:24
lokaido a google search--other people have the same complaint15:25
lokaiso, its not isolated15:25
lokaiwhich makes me quite frustrated with that fact that it was released.15:25
lokai(and I upgraded)15:25
lokaiI've had to trash my ~/.kde twice now because of a corrupted kglobalshortcutsrc15:26
genii!enter15:26
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:26
lokaithanks.15:27
geniinoobstyle: If you have more than one desktop environment installed (like both KDE and Gnome for instance) then your login screen will let you decide at that time which one you want to use when you login15:28
lokaianyone figured out how to add custom functionality to the middle mouse button?15:29
lokaiof course not.15:30
geniilokai: 60 seconds is not quite enough time for someone to look that up ;)15:31
jussi01lokai: yes, on a logitech mouse I can.15:31
lokaiHow did you do it? Going through systemsettings->advanced->input actions does not work for me15:32
lokaioh another quick question: Does the default "HELLO" (CRTL+ALT+H) work for anyone on a fresh install?15:33
jussi01lokai: on a logitech mouse youcan use a program called btnx - not in the repos, but there was a package floating round somewhere15:33
lokaijussi01: k thanks for the tip. I'm thinking of going back to compiz anyways, which does allow that functionality that I want15:33
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lokaiI fear that going back to compiz will mean going back to kde3, also.15:34
lokaijussi01: You using 8.10 with btnx? The developer says that 8.10 breaks it...http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/15:37
jussi01lokai: hadnt looked at it yet, but thats sad. :(15:38
lokaioh another quick question: Does the default "HELLO" (CRTL+ALT+H) work for anyone on a fresh install?15:39
aaroncampbellMy printer (Brother MFC 9440cn) has stopped working since my upgrade to 8.10.  I don't even see where to set it up.  Where are the printers managed?15:40
KDeskaaroncampbell /usr/bin/system-config-printer-kde15:41
KDeskaaroncampbell it is also in the Kmenu15:42
geniilokai: I think ctrl-alt-h is supposed to hibernate15:42
Seaboyit is going to be 2days that I don't have my desktop, and nobody can help15:42
lokaigenii: not according to the keyboard shortcuts entry. In any case nothing happens when I press it.15:43
KDeskHow can I know from which package depends one package15:43
lokaigenii: I am just wondering if anything happens for anyone.15:43
KDeskSeaboy: whats you problem?15:43
ocs hi. suppose that I have myscript.sh.   How can i retrieve, inside the script itself, the directory where the script is located ?15:43
KDeskocs: I think inside the script:  . otherscipr.sh15:43
SeaboyKDesk: when I login. I just have the mouse pointer and a white screen, and nothing else15:44
aaroncampbellKDesk: I can't find it in the KMenu15:45
lokaigenii: cat ~/.kde/share/config/kglobalshortcutsrc | grep "Type 'Hello'"15:45
KDeskSeaboy: You have intrepid? is it a new install or an upgrade?15:45
aaroncampbellKDesk: but I have it running...now I need to find what happened :|15:45
geniilokai: Doesn't seem to do anything on my box here15:45
lokaikde3 or 4?15:45
geniilokai: Right now I'm on 315:46
lokaiah hahahah!15:46
SeaboyKDesk: yes, new install, and I used it for some days, then it suddenly happened while I was copying a disc15:46
lokaidont upgrade to 415:46
lokaiit fails, utterly.15:46
aaroncampbellIt says: Stopped - Filter "/usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9440cn/cupswrapper/brldwrapper_mfc9440cn" for printer "MFC9440CN" not available: Permission Denied15:46
lokaigenii: all the problems that I have been complaining about are kde4 problems.15:47
geniilokai: I'm usually reluctant to make major changes until the big bugs are worked out of the system :)15:47
lokaigenii: and as you might suspect, I'm quite upset that I upgraded.15:47
lokaigenii: same. I didn't wait long enough.15:47
KDeskSeaboy: maybe it was an package update, maybe kernel, kdm... Which graphics card do you have? What do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?15:47
geniilokai: I believe you can still run kde3 if you want15:48
lokaigenii: how would you go about going that?15:48
lokai*doing15:48
KDeskgenii: but only in hardy.15:49
lokaiSeaboy: Have you tried to reconfigure xorg?15:49
lokaithat means I'm out of luck. I've upgraded to 8.1015:49
lokaiand KDE4 comes by default15:49
geniilokai: Prevoiusly the kde3 was package kubuntu-desktop and the kde4 was kubuntu-kde4-desktop but I think now kde4 is the "kubuntu-desktop" package15:49
lokaiI'm very, very, very disappointed that they released this to the general public before it was ready15:50
faileasthere's a workaround to run kde3 on intrepid15:50
Pici!intrepidkde315:50
ubottuNo, intrepid does not include KDE 3, only KDE 4. Please continue to use Hardy if KDE 3 is deisred.15:50
SeaboyKDesk: no, I was't upgrading, but that day I installed nvidia-glx-173 and it was working without a problem for hours. my graphic card is geforce FX5500, I'll pastebin xorg.conf content in a minute15:50
SeaboyKDesk: yes, i tried15:50
geniifaileas: If you have a link I'm sure lokai would like it :)15:50
lokaiyes, faileas15:50
faileasgimme a moment. need to go look it up again15:51
lokaithanks15:51
KDeskSeaboy: hmm, I think it is nvidia driver fault.15:51
faileaslokai: http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=03dd6e75a3859a1426a4ec8a10d30c0e&t=960742&highlight=kde+3.5+downgrade15:52
SeaboySeaboy: this is it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/67957/15:52
faileasYMMV, i've never tried this personally15:52
SeaboyKDesk: Seaboy: this is it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/67957/15:52
lokaithanks so much faileas15:53
KDeskSeaboy: I think the xorg.conf is OK. Which nvidia driver version do you have?15:54
KDeskSeaboy: have you tried to start x with the free 2d nv driver?15:54
SeaboyKDesk: I've installed 173, but after this problem I tried to remove it. however I think it didn't remove15:55
KDeskSeaboy: I am reading this, it seems that support from your card is removed from 173. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94589915:56
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SeaboyKDesk: so what should I do? will removing it solve the problem? I've tried many sollutions but none of them worked15:57
KDeskSeaboy: have you tried to remove, and install it with the envy utility?15:57
lokai!downgrade15:58
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.15:58
KDeskSeaboy: First I think you have to remove that driver.15:58
SeaboyI tried in console mode, but I get some errors when I try to install or remove something15:59
scdevillehello15:59
SeaboyKDesk: I tried in console mode, but I get some errors when I try to install or remove something15:59
scdevilleI have a problem with kmix15:59
KDeskSeaboy: which errors?15:59
scdevilleit only shows the red X and doesnt control volume15:59
KDeskscdeville: does it work with alsamixer ?16:00
nadhemosbonjour16:00
scdevilleI don't have it16:00
nadhemossvp y'as qq qui parle en francais ?16:00
scdevillekde comes just with kmix16:00
lokaifaileas: something is broken about it...16:00
Sokal-ECone question how do i zip a file?16:00
scdevillethe sound control of amarock works fine16:00
SeaboyKDesk: a bunch of errors, and at the end this : end_request: I/0 error, dev sda, sector 1244578 bus error16:00
Sokal-ECusing ark or can i only unzip16:00
nadhemosalloo ther's someone spoke french ?16:01
faileaslokai: never tried it out myself, as i said...16:01
lokaiyou still on kde3?16:01
sparris there a third-party solution for connecting to VPNs in kubuntu until kde supports them again?16:01
faileasno16:01
genii!fr | nadhemos16:02
ubottunadhemos: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:02
faileaswell this box is on KDE4. got another one on hardy and another one on the enlightenment based ubuntu varient16:02
nadhemosthankyou!16:02
KDeskSeaboy: I think it is bad, maybe there was a corruption an something in you partition is broken. Maybe the fasters way it to backup important data and to do a fresh install again (~30min)16:02
sparrIt would be awesome if there was a list of lost functionality to refer to before upgrading.  I never would have installed intrepid if I had known how much stuff was missing.16:03
KDeskscdeville: so you dont have alsamixer? install alsa-utils16:03
SeaboyKDesk: I think I should reinstall kubuntu, but is there anyway to use tha packages I've downloaded?16:04
scdevilleok i'll try it thank you16:04
KDesksparr: kde4 has not so many apps as kde3, but you can also install kde3 apps16:04
KDeskSeaboy: yes, they are in /var/cache/apt/archives/16:04
sparrKDesk: im referring to kde4 replacements for kde3 apps.  i cant (?) install kde3's network manager, or use kde3's panel, etc16:05
KDeskSeaboy: I think you should tray first (in the reinstalled system) to install the nvidia drivers with http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html envyNG16:06
SeaboyKDesk: and something else, do you know the default path of temp in nero? I just have an image of kubuntu and don't know where it is, sorry for asking so many questions16:06
KDesksparr: the networkmanager you can, I use it. But the panel not. But there are many insteresting plasmoids in kde-look.org you can use.16:07
Sokal-ECif in the terminal how do i cd to a file?16:07
KDeskSeaboy: no problem. I dont know, but I think maybe in .nero/16:08
sparrKDesk: is the kde downloader thing broken?  i only see two or three widgets available when i try to download new ones16:08
SeaboyKDesk: I said nero? I mean k3b16:08
KDesksparr: yes i think, somethimes I also see two or tree. Better search in kde-look.org, there is also a repo from a PPA with some plasmoids debs for intrepid. https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive16:09
Sokal-ECanyone know how do i navigate to a folder from konsole16:09
awidegreenhej! i want to install intrepid in my existing lvm group - has anybody any idea how to map the existing lvm grp while the installation-process (command-line)?16:10
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KDeskSeaboy: ah, the k3b config is in .kde/share/ but I dont think that k3b saves the image, maybe take a look at /tmp/16:10
KDeskSokal-EC: use cd to change dirictory. ls to list the content16:11
SeaboyKDesk: thank you very much16:11
KDeskSokal-EC: cd /home/youuser/folder16:11
KDeskSeaboy: np, good luck!16:12
sparrKDesk: how do i get/use the old network manager?  i really need to connect to my work VPN, and i hate having to use gnome to do it16:13
dr_willisyu could just run the gnome network-manager tool16:14
dr_willisno need to use all of gnome perhaps16:14
KDesksparr: in hardy it was also networkmanager 0.6, but in intrepid there is networkmanager 0.7, it is much better. I h ave the package network-manager-kde installed16:14
sparrdr_willis: changes in intrepid prevent nm-applet from running in kde (conflicting providers of the service or something like that, dbus is very confusing)16:15
rrittenhouseI just installed Kubuntu 32bit with the alt cd. When it came up it would half of the time drop into the shell and I would have to type startx and sometimes it would take me to X. I even had one time where everything froze. Any ideas?16:15
dr_willissparr,  isent that special.. :)16:15
aaroncampbellMy printer won't work since the 8.10 upgrade.  It keeps saying "Unable to start filter "/usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9440cn/cupswrapper/brlpdwrapper_mfc9440cn" - Permission denied."16:16
dr_willisrrittenhouse,  what video card?16:16
aaroncampbellI re-downloaded the .deb from Brother and installed it, but I'm pretty sure something else is causing the problem, because that didn't fix it16:16
rrittenhousedr_willis: Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT16:17
KDesksparr: but if you have the networkmanager from gnome it should work in kde. HAve you the network-manager-kde pakcage installed?16:17
rrittenhousedr_willis: I'm an ubuntu user and I've never had an issue (even Ibex). I'm just wondering what could be wrong.16:17
dr_willisrrittenhouse,  kubuntua nd ubuntu use the same drivers/underlaying OS. so ive no idea on taht..  If you had Ubuntu isntalled you could just install kubuntu-desktop16:18
dr_willisrrittenhouse,  You may want to check and be sure you are using the nvidia drivers,  could try som eother window maangers also. see if they also crash16:18
rrittenhousedr_willis: True. I should have just done that.. gah! :)16:18
dr_willisrrittenhouse,  one of the first things i do on a new box. :) install all the desktops and stuff16:19
rrittenhouseIt seems to work now after I enabled the nvidia driver once getting into KDE. Even dual monitors is working. I'm just having weird crashes now :P16:19
rrittenhousedr_willis: cool. I was always a KDE user and at some point Ubuntu came along and I switched. I'm just trying to check back into KDE.16:19
rrittenhousedr_willis: Another weird problem I had was when I added the twitter widget and tried to connect it would crash the entire plasma interface. It did that on the livecd too16:20
rrittenhousedr_willis: Good thinking. I'm gonna install Ubuntu again and just put KDE on it too in case I decide I need gnome again lol16:23
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aaroncampbellThe problem I was having with my printer (It kept saying :Unable to start filter "/usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9440cn/cupswrapper/brlpdwrapper_mfc9440cn" - Permission denied.) was able to get fixed with "sudo aa-complain cupsd" ...will that be a permanent fix or will I need to do that on every reboot?16:29
Seaboyis there anyway to backup installed packages and use it later, I should mention that I just have access to console mode16:31
sparrKDesk: yes, i have network-manager-kde installed.  the kde4 version has no support for VPNs (and doesn't work with my ethernet connection anyways, but that's another bug for another day)16:32
KDesksparr: which is the kde4 version? I thought it wasn't ready.16:32
sparrit isn't, that's the point16:33
KDesksparr: ah, where do you got the kde4 version?16:33
sparr1:0.7svn86498816:33
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sparrupgrade to intrepid16:33
sparrwhich i regret on so many levels16:33
KDesksparr: I use intrepid but dont have the nm kde4 version...16:34
JontheEchidnait's not a KDE4 version16:34
ka9dehi, is there a german kubuntu channel?16:34
bazhang!de16:35
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:35
ka9dethx <316:35
nyadHi.16:35
KDeskJontheEchidna: ah, ok. When will the kde4 version be ready? Will it be a plasmoid?16:36
sparrJontheEchidna: ok, whatever it is, it's multiply broken16:36
sparrand i cant run gnome's nm-applet (which mostly works) in kde any more in intrepid16:36
JontheEchidnaKDesk: SuSE is aiming for it to be done in time for the next suse release16:36
JontheEchidnaand it will be a plasmoid16:36
sparrwhat is the solution for connecting to a VPN in kde in intrepid, today?  not 6 months from now16:37
nyadHi. Amarok doesn't autostart after I have logged out of kde416:37
KDeskJontheEchidna: ah, that is good! I will be watching kde-look for the plasmoid :)16:37
KDesknyad: you have to see in System Settings in the advanced tab in Session manager, there you can cnfig if you want to save the session when you logout16:38
siltobonjour à tous!16:39
nyadKDesk: It is set to restore last session16:39
bazhang!fr16:40
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:40
nyadmy windows all open except amarok16:41
siltook thx, I didn't know16:42
xp-killerhow to install a .tar.bz2 file?16:45
aaroncampbellWhere can I go to find more widgets for the new KDE4?16:46
bazhangkde-look.org ?16:48
xp-killerhow to install a .tar.bz2 file?16:52
aaroncampbellbazhang: I don't see where, but there's a lot there, so maybe I'm missing it16:52
tictricxp-killer, you don't install such a file. You can extract it16:52
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Picixp-killer: What are you trying to install?16:52
tictrictar xjvf some.tar.bz216:53
tictricreplace extract with uncompress and unpack16:53
PiciYes, but its better to install programs from the repositories, than to compile from some archived file.16:54
tictricstill we don't know yet what xp-killer actually wants to do :-)16:54
tictricmaybe uncompress xp?16:55
ka9deI've got a performance problem with ATI HD2600 mobile, fglrx driver and KDE3.. for example, when i minimize windows, it seems very laggy.. fglrxinfo replies the right radeon chip, anyone with ideas? sorry for my bad english :(16:55
rrittenhouseSo to get firefox should I install it from the repos or from their website? I noticed it had a LOT of deps in the repo16:55
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tictricrrittenhouse, I'd install the deb from the distro16:55
xp-killerPici: well i try to go on my email acout and kopete telling me on the website i need to update my firefox to view my email16:56
xp-killerPici: well i try to go on my email acout and kopete telling me on the website i need to update my firefox to view my email tictric16:56
Picixp-killer: What version of Kubuntu are you using and what version of Firefox?16:56
xp-killer8.0416:56
xp-killerthe page i want to go on belongs to msn to view my emails16:57
rrittenhousetictric: Should I just sudo apt-get install firefox ?16:57
Picixp-killer: What version of Firefox are you currently using?16:57
rrittenhousetictric: I'm used to using that. I wasnt sure if I should attempt adept or not16:57
xp-killerPici: i have no idea16:57
Picixp-killer: What does it say in Help>About?16:57
xp-killerPici:  3.0316:58
Picixp-killer: That is the latest version16:58
tictricrrittenhouse, use the tool you are comfortable with. I personally use aptitude but apt-get is just as fine as adept I'd say16:58
rrittenhousetictric: thx16:58
Picixp-killer: No update needed.16:59
rrittenhouseI'm really liking KDE over gnome tho =D16:59
rrittenhouseSome things are hard to get used to because I've used gnome for so long16:59
xp-killerPici: then why i cant get in my email box?16:59
Picixp-killer: Has it ever worked with firefox?17:00
OxDeadC0dewhat's the best way to get hotmail emails in linux using native email clients?17:02
xp-killerPici: this the first time im trying it.normaly it with explorer i does check my email17:02
xp-killerPici: but u dont have msn?how u does check your email?17:03
Picixp-killer: I use gmail.17:04
nyadxp-killer: so your problem is that you can't get into msn with firefox?17:08
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xp-killernyad: firefox and konqeror17:10
nyadxp-killer: That is odd17:13
nyadxp-killer: I switched to gmail and I'm happy17:15
xp-killernyad: im not going to change my hotmail17:16
xp-killernyad: i got in.they told me if i continue withou update i wont be able to view certain fonction17:19
genii!info gotmail17:20
ubottugotmail (source: gotmail): utility to download email from a Hotmail or MSN account. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-1 (intrepid), package size 38 kB, installed size 124 kB17:20
OxDeadC0debut gotmail can't send email17:20
mfreesefver17:20
xp-killerOxDeadC0de: so it will downloa all my email to my pc so i can see them?17:22
OxDeadC0dexp-killer yeah but it's only half a solution, recieving emails, no sending17:28
JurgentjeHi all... I've upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10 ... and my sound is gone. It worked fine in 8.04. I'm using a Creative Labs Audigy card... frequently read this on internet, but don't read any solutions... anyone out here who could help me out?17:29
Shadowwulfhi i lost my panel stuff in kubuntu ... anybody know to reset all the icons in the panel ?17:31
Shadowwulfto default ?17:31
xp-killerOxDeadC0de: but dont worry i got in my email box with konqueror17:32
dr_willisdelete all the various .kde  dirs/ or settings in them and restart the window manager? :)17:32
dr_willisThats a little extreme...17:32
Shadowwulfis there a simple way ?17:32
dr_willisOr just add the  applets back to th panel17:32
Shadowwulfi cant find the window manager \17:32
Shadowwulfthe 2 or 4 windows app thingy17:33
dr_willisThats the Desktop/Panel I imagine..17:33
dr_willisI dont use kde4 so cant verify17:33
Shadowwulfahh17:33
Shadowwulfreinstall maybe ? quick fix ?17:33
dr_willisreinstall to get kde back to se4ttings.??? this isent windows17:34
dr_willisDelete the users .kde* settings dirs. logout/back in - is a Extreme way to do it...17:34
dr_willisOr explore the applets stuff - it has to be in there somewhere17:34
Shadowwulfi have looked many times17:34
Shadowwulfwhere is .kde* dirs or how do i search for it17:35
dr_willisIts got to be one of the plasmoids.. everyithing in kde4 is a plasmoid17:36
dr_willisall the users settings dirs are in their home directory17:36
dr_willisI dont kow the exact name of the dir. thus i said .kde* :)17:36
OxDeadC0deshadowwulf type rm ~/.kde -r to recursively delete your kde folder17:37
OxDeadC0de~ is a shortcut for /home/yourusername/17:37
dr_willisof coruse this will erase/reset ALL kde settings...17:37
OxDeadC0deif you want to back it up instead, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old17:38
ubuntuNeed a little help if anyone is available to help a newbie17:38
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l0n3w0lfoops, forgot to set nick17:39
geniiubuntu_sucks_dic:  Please change your nick17:41
geniil0n3w0lf: Best approach is just ask your question or state your problem and then someone will try to assist that is familiar with your issue17:42
l0n3w0lfAlright.  Well basically I used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier to login it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too17:43
Shadowwulfwhat is the cmd for linuxes version of cd..17:44
Shadowwulfor windows version17:44
rienhi everyone17:45
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denis__hi17:46
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Shadowwulfso if my home dir is johndoe what is the exact command i type in for mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old17:46
denis__I need to know what are commands to install definitely my second HDD please. is someone there who can helps me ?17:47
geniiShadowwulf: Exactly what you just put17:47
rienim trying to use my printer via the network as network printer, but it doesnt seem to work, whats the easiest way to configure that?17:47
rienthe other computer is a windows machine17:48
Shadowwulfcannot stat username/.kde no such file or dir17:48
geniiShadowwulf: Then it's already been done, or  else you weren't using kde in the first place17:48
geniiOr you just rm 'd it17:49
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denis__is there someone who can helps me ?17:49
mefisto__Shadowwulf: did you type "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old" it sounds like you left out the "mv"17:50
Shadowwulfi did that17:50
geniidenis__: If the hard drive is already in the computer just use parted or qtparted to prepare and format it17:51
Shadowwulfi typed in mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old from the cmd line... in my home dir17:51
denis__genii: I don't want to format it, I need datas contained into it17:52
Shadowwulfdo i need to be a su ?17:52
l0n3w0lfI used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier to login it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too any ideas?17:52
geniiShadowwulf: does:   ls ~/.kde-old/*   show anything?17:52
Riddell** Ubuntu Open Week talk "Kubuntu - reinventing QA the resource-limited way" with elite Kubuntu developer JontheEchidna in a few minutes in #ubuntu-classroom17:53
Shadowwulfnope17:53
Shadowwulfcannot access file or dir17:53
RainCTHi. Any idea on why a Qt application might fail starting with "No protocol specified   <filename>.py: cannot connect to X server :0.0"? (it's not me who is having the problem, the only additional info I can give is that the guy's behind a proxy, if that makes any difference)17:54
mefisto__Shadowwulf: what about: ls ~/.kde17:56
dr_willisShadowwulf,  you would no need sudo if its a user moveing their own files17:56
denis__I need to know what are commands to install definitely my second HDD please (without formatting). is someone there who can helps me ?17:57
geniidenis__: Please use the pastebin to show us the result of command in Konsole of:   sudo fdisk -l17:57
dr_willisRainCT,  its being ran as a different user then the one thats runnint X17:57
genii!paste | denis__17:57
ubottudenis__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:57
dr_willisRainCT,  or hes ssh'd in and dident enable x forwarding17:57
denis__http://paste.ubuntu.com/67992/17:58
RainCTdr_willis: OK, thanks. That's the only possibilities?17:58
seelei'm having trouble getting virtualbox to work.  it's complaining about not finding 2.6.26-5 modules but adept says i have 2.6.26 installed17:59
dr_willisRainCT,  the "X server 0.0' is very common message of doing things as a differetn user17:59
makdaknife_seele: try /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup17:59
makdaknife_seele: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup18:00
l0n3w0lfI used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too any ideas?18:00
seelemakdaknife_:  * Usage: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv {start|stop|restart|status}18:00
seelemakdaknife_: start?18:00
denis__is that helping ?18:00
makdaknife_seele: that's weird...18:00
l0n3w0lfI'm desperate, having to watch Jerry Springer while I wait for help  o_o18:00
seelemakdaknife_: seele@Takochi:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start * Starting VirtualBox kernel module vboxdrv * No suitable module for running kernel found.18:00
dr_willisheh- i just updated/upgraded 8.10 in  my virtualbox session.. now i gotta reisntall the guest addons.. :()18:00
denis__You can see that my second HD has been detected18:01
geniidenis__: Yes, it is seen as sdb1.  You want it always to be mounted during boot?18:02
geniiArg, work. AFK18:02
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denis__Yes exactly18:02
makdaknifeseele: are you using virtualbox or virtualbox-ose?18:03
seelemakdaknife: virtualbox-ose is what was installed when i asked for virtualbox18:03
awidegreenwhy does the knetworkmanager not use the kwalletmanager? the passohrases are stored somewhere but not in my wallet! :D18:03
makdaknifeseele: I'm not sure if it makes a difference... but I use virtualbox as opposed to the OSE version18:03
awidegreenforgot to say: intrepid kde418:04
seelemakdaknife: apt didn't give me a choice.. did you use packages?18:04
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makdaknifeseele: try add this to your apt sources - deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian hardy non-free18:05
mihai__hello18:05
mihai__anybody on ?18:05
makdaknifeseele: see http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads18:05
mihai__need some help with something here18:06
l0n3w0lfmihal_ join the club  :/18:06
makdaknifemihai__: just ask your question... and someone who knows an answer might help18:07
mihai__ok i wanted to place a shortcut18:07
mihai__on konsole or terminal18:07
mihai__i looked it up in settings at keyboard shortcut18:07
Shadowwulfok i got the desktop to reset ... but the panel did not reset18:07
mihai__but i can't find anything .....18:07
Shadowwulfand i still dont have a desktop panel indicator for mulitple desktops ?18:08
makdaknifemihai__: what sort of shortcut? like a link to another file?18:08
mihai__no mate18:08
mihai__a shortcut key18:08
mihai__like alt+f118:08
mihai__or alt+t18:08
makdaknifemihai__: okay Settings.. Configure Shortcuts18:08
makdaknifemihai__: second last menu option18:09
mihai__is that in kubuntu ?18:09
mihai__or ubuntu ?18:09
exsolvedehh.. I have to run sudo hidd --search18:09
exsolved on every reboot for bluetooth and it does not work at login screen.. any fix for this?18:09
makdaknifemihai__: none other18:09
mihai__ok18:09
makdaknifemihai__: in konsole18:09
mihai__let me see18:09
AngellowServus Mihai18:10
Shadowwulfany help on a panel reset ?/18:10
Shadowwulfkde418:10
l0n3w0lfI used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too any ideas?18:10
denis__I need to know what are commands to install definitely my second HDD please (without formatting). is someone there who can helps me ?18:10
seelemakdaknife: still giving me kernel source errors18:11
makdaknifeseele: are you still unable to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup?18:11
seelemakdaknife: since 2.6.27 is the latest kernel, i dont know where to get the old packages for 2.6.2618:12
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seelemakdaknife: it failed.. this is what is relevent in /var/log/vbox-install.log18:12
Pici2.6.26 was only available in some of the Intrepid alphas, it was never present for a release.18:12
seelemakdaknife: Error! Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.26-5-generic cannot be found at18:12
seele/lib/modules/2.6.26-5-generic/build or /lib/modules/2.6.26-5-generic/source.18:12
denis__I need to know what are commands to install definitely my second HDD please (without formatting). is someone there who can helps me ?18:12
seeleYou can use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located.18:13
seeleFailed to install using DKMS, attempting to install without18:13
seeleMakefile:127: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.  Stop.18:13
mefisto__denis__: first make sure you have ntfs-3g installed: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g18:13
exsolvedAnyone know how to get bluetooth to work at login _and_ recognized after login? Currently must run sudo hidd --search18:14
exsolved after boot.18:14
makdaknifeseele: you will need to install linux-headers for your kernel18:15
makdaknifeseele: just find the headers that you need, and install them... then the setup will work18:15
seelemakdaknife: is there an easy way to do that with apt-get?  adept sucks18:16
seelei can't get it to list anything besides the newest kernel which is already installed18:16
stdinseele: sudo apt-get install linux-header-$(uname -r)18:16
stdin* linux-headers-$(uname -r)18:16
geniidenis__: An old but good tutorial for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700918:17
seelestdin: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.26-5-generic18:18
mike-soliduskwin crashes on bootup18:18
stdinseele: what version of kubuntu do you have?18:19
seelestdin: intrepid, but there is a bug for my network card and so i had to install 2.6.26 to make it work18:20
stdinwhere from? or did you compile?18:20
seelestdin: debs from launchpad18:21
stdinfrom a PPA?18:21
Piciseele: Why not the 2.6.26 packages in the repo?18:22
Pici!info linux-image-2.6.26-4-generic18:22
ubottuPackage linux-image-2.6.26-4-generic does not exist in intrepid18:22
Piciyes it does18:22
PiciOr... it did, nevermind.18:22
stdinI don't see it in intrepid here Pici18:22
seelestdin: i dont know what it was, someone gave me a link and i downloaded and installed it18:22
seelegeneric plus a bunch of modules18:22
reesehi! how do I change the keyboard layout? didnt find it in keyboard and mouse, in system settings18:22
Picistdin: It was in there during the alphas.18:23
FoodcomanAny Lenovo Thinkpad W500 users?  ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 365018:23
l0n3w0lfI used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too any ideas?18:23
mefisto__reese: look in regional & language18:24
reesemefisto__, thanks18:26
makdaknife!info linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic18:26
ubottuPackage linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic does not exist in intrepid18:26
l0n3w0lfguess I'm going back to windows then  :(18:26
makdaknifeseele: I'm not sure where you got your kernel image from... but in order to build the modules for vbox, you need kernel headers18:27
seelemakdaknife: ok.. where do i get those?  apparently i can't use apt18:27
seelei couldnt use apt before and that's why i downloaded packages18:27
stdinseele: what does "apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic" show?18:27
makdaknifeseele: you would normally do something like apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-5-generic18:28
makdaknifeunfortunately it looks like your kernel is not in the normal intrepid repos18:28
seelestdin: linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic:18:31
seele  Installed: 2.6.26-5.1518:31
seele  Candidate: 2.6.26-5.1518:31
seele  Version table:18:31
seele *** 2.6.26-5.15 018:31
seele        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status18:31
stropiai have problem can anyone help me18:31
stropiamy ubunto freez18:31
stropiai have 8.0418:31
stdinseele: i386 or amd64?18:34
exsolvedanyone running bluetooth? have question18:34
umanHi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks18:35
snikkerhi can i install kde3 on intrepid?18:36
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aaroncampbellAfter the upgrade to 8.10, none of my local test sites work.  It's like apache is ignoring the sites-available and sites-enabled.  All sites are pointing to /var/www ...anyonw know why?18:37
makdaknifesnikker: not really... although you can install kde3 apps18:38
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exsolvedaaroncambell: what error are you getting, 404, 403?18:39
seelestdin: i38618:39
snikkermakdaknife: yes i know, but i don't need only to install kde3 apps, i want install all kde3 desktop environment...18:39
blip-hi all,  i remember there being in KDE3 Control Center, a place to change the cursor animation on busy and make it passive cursor.  i can't find it anymore, am i mistaken about it's location or even existence for that matter... ?  thanks18:39
stdinseele: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/linux-headers-2.6.26-5/2.6.26-5.15 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/linux-headers-2.6.26-5-generic/2.6.26-5.1518:40
blip-i checked the appearance area and the mouse/kb area....but nothing on that front18:40
Assurbanipalhi guys... i try to install Kubuntu 8.10, but i face system freeze when it enters KDE.. can anyone help?18:41
umanHi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks18:41
makdaknifesnikker: This Intrepid release lives up to its name by including many changes, but there are some features that are not yet available in KDE 4. If you would rather stay with what you know then remember that Kubuntu 8.04 is still fully supported, see KDE3-KDE4Migration and Is KDE 4.1 for you? for more information on deciding.18:42
makdaknifesnikker: that's off the kubuntu front page... so I guess not18:42
aaroncampbellexsolved: It's going to /var/www rather than /home/aaroncampbell/sitename_www18:44
snikkermakdaknife: mmm, so i can't downgrade... ok, thanks for help :)18:44
aaroncampbellexsolved: Here is one of the many virtual host configs that no longer works: http://www.paste2.org/p/9733118:47
makdaknifesnikker: sure, no problem... sorry if you've run into a problem...18:47
makdaknifeseele: how are you getting along getting your kernel headers?18:47
snikkermakdaknife: np :)18:48
hoontekewhere or how do I report bugs about kubuntu in launchpad?18:48
aaroncampbelland I have the sites name (meqfuelnet) set in /etc/hosts ...so it points to 127.0.0.1 but shows the default page :|18:49
Picihoonteke: Report them under the relevant packages in the Ubuntu project.18:49
dario_Hola18:50
genii!es | dario_18:50
ubottudario_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:50
hoontekePici: k.  so ... I've found a bug in 8.10 with kmail.  Do I pick kmail-kde4 as the package?18:50
dario_tank you18:50
exsolvedaaroncampbell: have you corrected to default home directory in apache.conf to point to /home/aaroncampbell/ sounds like you now have the default directory18:50
geniidario_: You are welcome18:50
stdinhoonteke: hardy or intrepid?18:51
SJr|WorkI heard there was a big problem with Ubuntu 8.10 something everyone hates, is that true?18:51
hoontekestdin: intrepid18:51
hoontekestdin: 8.10 is intrepid, yes?18:52
Picihoonteke: Its actually kdepim for intrepid.18:52
makdaknifeSJr|Work: depends on what the problem is that you heard about...18:52
stdinhoonteke: ye18:52
stdinhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+filebug18:52
aaroncampbellexsolved: no, I ran a diff between my apache2.conf from before and now, and they're basically the same (except for a logging line: CustomLog /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log vhost_combined)18:52
SJr|WorkI think something with Network Manager being retarded18:52
dario_genii: tank you18:52
umanHi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks18:52
hoontekek18:52
makdaknifeSJr|Work: I haven't heard about the issue... but I haven't changed to 8.10 because I currently prefer kde3 to kde418:53
SJr|WorkOh wait you mean I can't use KDE 3.5 with Kubuntu 8.10?18:53
makdaknifeSJr|Work: indeed... really important caveat... that I don't think has been made clear enough to people18:54
exsolvedaaroncampbell: have you tried updating the current config to /home/aaroncampbell/sitename_ww rather than /var...  Putting the absolute path - that is what i had to do18:54
SJr|WorkYou mean I can't even install it makdaknife?18:54
papegaaijis there anybody here with some nfs knowledge?18:54
makdaknifeSJr|Work: from the front page of the Kubuntu website: This Intrepid release lives up to its name by including many changes, but there are some features that are not yet available in KDE 4. If you would rather stay with what you know then remember that Kubuntu 8.04 is still fully supported, see KDE3-KDE4Migration and Is KDE 4.1 for you? for more information on deciding.18:54
aaroncampbellexsolved: I have about 30 sites on here, so I need to keep them all as virtual hosts.18:54
makdaknifeSJr|Work: you can still use kde3 apps though18:54
makdaknifepapegaaij: what's up?18:55
SJr|Workargh this sucks18:55
papegaaiji'm having trouble mounting nfs with kubuntu18:55
papegaaijmakdaknife: the nfs mount dies after a couple of hours18:55
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SJr|WorkHmmmm is there some reason why I'd want to use x86_64 installer instead of just the i686 one?18:55
papegaaijmakdaknife: after which i can no longer mount any nfs mounts18:55
aaroncampbellI just pasted the code from my virtual host into the apache2.conf just above where it's supposed to include all the virtual hosts, and it works...either they aren't getting included, or it's choosing the wrong one to send me to18:55
makdaknifepapegaaij: hmmm is it on a local network?18:55
papegaaijmakdaknife: yes, crosscable, and the network is fine, statically configured18:56
papegaaijall other services are ok, nis is working (same server and client) and the server is also the gateway (nat)18:56
papegaaijwhen i try to mount, i do see the mount request, and it is authenticated, but then nothing happens18:56
papegaaijalso, another kubuntu system is having no trouble, and the nfs was working fine with gentoo on the system where i'm now having trouble18:57
makdaknifepapegaaij: that's strange... I haven't experienced that at all... I know that NFS does give issues if there are problems on the network... but that sounds pretty weird18:58
papegaaijmakdaknife: someone on the #nfs channel said it could be firewall related, so i ran ufw disable, that should be enough to disable the firewall, shouldn't it?18:58
papegaaijmakdaknife: the strangest thing is that is working fine for several hours, and then just stops18:59
makdaknifepapegaaij: not sure if its firewall... and I don't use ufw... you could try iptables -F, which will flush all iptables rules19:00
makdaknifeufw seems to use iptables underneath itself19:00
papegaaijmakdaknife: how do i list all rules?19:00
papegaaijiptables -l?19:00
papegaaijiptables -L shows nothing19:01
makdaknifepapegaaij: iptables -L19:01
makdaknifepapegaaij: I don't think you have any firewall issues...19:01
papegaaijat least, no rules :)19:01
papegaaiji did not enable the firewall, so unless it's enabled by default, it should be disabled19:01
reesehi! i'm using kubuntu 8.10 and can't find anymore the filesystem service in system setting, where I could automatically mount ntfs partitions from..19:01
seelemakdaknife: stdin: it looks like it worked.. thanks a lot!19:02
seelemakdaknife: stdin: if you guys are at UDS in december i'll owe you a beer ;P19:02
papegaaijall i see in the log on the system is 'nfs: server fileserver not responding, still trying'19:02
makdaknifepapegaaij: it sounds like the network might drop after a period... not sure why... I suppose you could write a small bash script to sleep and then ping every 10 mins or so... but that's not really getting to the root of the problem19:02
makdaknifeseele: great to hear it19:02
papegaaijwell, i was having trouble with the network19:03
papegaaiji could not get NetworkManager to use a static configuration19:03
papegaaijit kept on falling back to dhcp19:03
makdaknifepapegaaij: bah... knetworkmanager can be a real pain in the ass sometimes19:03
papegaaijvia which it could not get an ip, so it disabled eth0 again19:03
hoontekethanks Pici, stdin.  Bug reported.19:04
makdaknifepapegaaij: so how have you gotten around that?19:04
mefisto__what's happening to the kde4 ppa for 8.04? will it continue to be updated?19:04
papegaaijwell, i've stopped NetworkManager, after which the network seems to be fine19:04
papegaaiji entered the settings in /etc/network/interfaces19:04
makdaknifepapegaaij: good19:04
makdaknifepapegaaij: its difficult to troubleshoot something like this... are you aware of it being a specific length of time before your NFS connection drops?19:05
papegaaijmakdaknife: no, yesterday it was at 1:44, to day somewhere around 10 in the morning19:06
blip-Hi,  can i change the mouse cursor in Kubuntu 8.04 KDE3 ?19:07
papegaaijmakdaknife: i did not yet reboot the system and currently i still cannot mount nfs19:07
papegaaijso i'm trying to fine a way to troubleshoot the client side19:07
papegaaijbecause the server side seems to be working fine19:07
makdaknifepapegaaij: can you mount the nfs with another machine?19:07
papegaaijyes, this machine (also kubuntu) has the same mount mounted19:08
dexGood evening all im new so i was hoping that u can help with my sound (i dont hear anything: there is not sound)19:08
dexim using Audigy 1 SE19:08
makdaknifepapegaaij: so it definitely sounds like something with the client19:08
papegaaijyes19:09
makdaknifepapegaaij: gimme a few minutes...19:09
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testi I couldn't figure out yet to have Ctrl+Shift+K to open a terminal window. How do I configure that. I found keyboard shortcuts in System settings, but I don't manage to get them to work. Is there step by step tutorial?19:11
testiI have Kubuntu Intrepid19:11
KDeskwhy I can make the luna aplet bigger? Aren't there bigger images or svg?19:11
exsolvedAnyone using bluetooth?  It is not recognized at login _or_ once logged in unless I run sudo hidd --search.  I have HIDD_ENABLED=1 in config, no dice...19:11
makdaknifepapegaaij: try nfsstat -c19:11
KDesktesti: maybe that key is used by somethink else.19:11
dwidmannreese: Looks like it might not exist anymore ... in which case you can still use mount in a console. Just type "mount" followed by either the mountpoint or the device name19:11
papegaaijmakdaknife: on the server?19:12
makdaknifepapegaaij: on the client19:12
makdaknifepapegaaij: check the number under retrans19:12
reesedwidmann: that service mounted automatically at startup chosen partitions.. i would like to have them mounted automatically19:13
papegaaijit's currently at 59819:13
dwidmannreese: in that case, add them to your /etc/fstab19:13
SJr|WorkWhy would I want to choose the x86_64 cd's besides getting 64-bit support which seems pointless19:13
reesedwidmann, thanks19:14
papegaaijand seems stable19:14
dwidmann!fstab | reese19:14
Uncle|SamCan it be that there are some problems with kde 4.1?19:14
ubottureese: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions19:14
makdaknifepapegaaij: that sounds high... this indicates that it has been retransmitting requests... which is meant to indicate network issues19:14
papegaaijwhen i try to mount, it changes to 59919:14
makdaknifepapegaaij: what about pinging the server?19:15
papegaaijmakdaknife: but that is really weird, because the network is working fine19:15
makdaknifepapegaaij: do you get any loss?19:15
papegaaijmakdaknife: i can even log on with ssh on the server19:15
papegaaijand the server also is the internet gateway for that machine19:15
makdaknifepapegaaij: try ping and see if there are any packets lost over say 50 pings19:15
bauchspeckhi out there. could anybody please tell me, where in kde4 do I find now kdeprintfax?19:16
papegaaijmakdaknife: i don't see any packet loss19:16
makdaknifepapegaaij: you could try nfsstat -s and hunt through the output there for clues19:17
testiKDesk: no19:18
makdaknifepapegaaij: also what does your nfs mount look like in your fstab (obfuscate any sensitive data)19:19
papegaaijfileserver:/home        /home   nfs     rw,hard,intr,rsize=32768,wsize=32768    0 019:19
makdaknifepapegaaij: out of interest why have you specified write and read sizes?19:23
papegaaijmakdaknife: performance19:23
papegaaijbut i just tried with no options at all, still doesn't work19:23
makdaknifepapegaaij: :-( admittedly I'm at a bit of a loss... I'm no nfs guru... I just use it a bit at home19:24
papegaaijmakdaknife: same here19:24
papegaaijand this is getting really frustrating19:25
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papegaaiji switched from gentoo to ubuntu because of the time it takes to maintain a gentoo install19:25
papegaaijbut it seems like ubuntu might be taking even more :/19:25
makdaknifepapegaaij: nothing in the logs?19:25
papegaaijnothing at all19:25
papegaaijjust that one line, stating that the server is not responding19:26
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papegaaijand no other lines at that time19:26
makdaknifecrikey...19:26
papegaaijand nothing on the server19:26
r0o0thi all how can i make my own Irc chat rooms in ubuntu ?19:27
makdaknifepapegaaij: can you umount?19:27
geniidesrt: Did you use visudo when editing so that it will catch any syntax problems?19:28
papegaaijmakdaknife: how do i unmount a stale nfs mount?19:28
papegaaijjust ls / kills my terminal :)19:29
geniiWrong channel. sorry19:29
papegaaijit's currently locking all filesystem request, waiting for the server to come back up19:29
makdaknifepapegaaij: you could do a lazy unmount... I think its umount -l /mountpoint19:29
makdaknifepapegaaij: then try remount it19:29
bauchspeckasking again: where in Ubuntu/Kubuntu 8.10 can I find kdeprintfax?19:30
papegaaijlazy unmount worked, remount not19:30
r0o0tany one can help me .. i wanna make connect back door with some server and i wanna use irc boot19:30
papegaaijbtw, i also tried restarting networking, portmap and nfs-common19:30
papegaaijthat also didn't help19:30
makdaknifepapegaaij: damn that's some heavy voodoo going on there19:32
makdaknifepapegaaij: in your mount options try and specify proto=udp19:33
makdaknifepapegaaij: you might find that it behaves better19:33
urzahello niggers.19:34
papegaaijmakdaknife: doesn't it default to udp?19:35
papegaaijhmmm19:35
makdaknifei think it defaults to tcp... but if you have a mount up... you can check how its mounted using nfsstat -m19:35
papegaaijthat is working19:35
papegaaiji just mounted it :/19:36
makdaknifeabracadoobra....19:36
makdaknifehell... I don't know what's wrong there... but hopefully that will hold until you can work it out19:36
LF|Irssi_HI I just installed KDE4 on Ubuntu last night, all is well except i cant get Vmware server to load, do i have to reinstall vmware server?19:36
makdaknifepapegaaij: I have to head off soon... if you come up with anything... message me directly... I'll be afk, but if I happen to see a message I might pick it up19:37
papegaaijmakdaknife: many thanks for your help19:37
papegaaijhopefully udp will keep on working19:37
papegaaijperhaps the tcp connection died somehow19:37
urzagood nite niggers.19:37
papegaaijgood thing udp doesn't have connections :)19:38
makdaknifepapegaaij: hey no problem... hopefully all is good after that... its an honour to be able to help out an ex-gentoo user19:38
makdaknife;-)19:39
makdaknifelaterz everyone19:39
papegaaijhehe, bye19:39
LF|Irssi_I just installed KDE4 on Ubuntu last night, all is well except i cant get Vmware server to load, do i have to reinstall vmware server?19:39
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skabetHi, anyone else experinced crash in KTorrent when left-clicking a download item?19:51
nicholaihi....what's the best solution to get firefox to look somwhat decent with kubuntu intrepid?19:53
nicholaiit's really ugly by default19:54
nicholaiprobably all gnome apps are19:54
JontheEchidnahttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/757419:54
umanhow can i overwrite a read only file in a certain folder? thanks. i think i need sudo to open it but wasnt able to rewrite it after i modified it since it was read only19:55
nicholaijonthe: thanks19:56
LinOxManhi, i have install kubuntu 8.10 in my acer 4520, and now my notebook dont enter in suspend or hibernation mode. In Kubuntu 8.04 it s ok.20:02
LinOxMani try boot in init 1 for check modules problems20:02
LinOxManbut no work20:03
LinOxManthis notebook use nvdia chipset20:05
hoontekeis help not included with Kubuntu 8.10?  About everytime I go for a handbook, I get an error message and no help20:09
hoontekeFor example, when I hit F1 in Kontact, I get a popup "The file or folder help:/kontact/index.html does not exist."20:10
hoontekeand an empty help-browser page.20:10
dwidmannLinOxMan: if you still have it installed, try booting with the 2.6.24 kernel and see if it goes back to working, if so, continue on with the 2.6.24 because at least it works20:10
JontheEchidnahoonteke: sudo apt-get install kdepim-doc20:10
dwidmannhoonteke: a lot of the time the documentation is stored in separate packages20:10
IesosHow can I get kdm not to produce 1.5GB large log-files everytime I use it (/var/log/kdm.log)?20:10
hoontekehmm, I guess for completeness of the distribution, I'm surprised at that choice of removal.20:11
hoontekeok, thanks for that20:11
hoonteke@ JontheEchidna and dwidmann20:11
LinOxMandwidmann: ok, thanks for your help20:13
IesosI really need to get this fixed! My computer get useless when / is filled up and I cant go on removing these files all the time.20:13
dwidmannIesos: you could set up cron jobs to remove them in the meantime20:17
Iesosdwidmann, thats kind of an ugly way to do it, but if you walk me through it...20:18
wesleyhoe can i force to eject a cd20:19
emilsedghwesley: eject20:20
dwidmannIesos: Okay, open a terminal, and type in "sudo crontab -e"20:20
Iesosdone20:21
wesleydoes not work, wine is using it, but it says it needs second cd but i dont get it eject20:21
Iesosso... the syntax is every 5 ***** and it runs every 5 minutes, right?20:22
Iesosthen the command?20:22
Iesosand its only suppose to be 4 *20:22
Iesosright?20:22
dwidmannIesos: right, only 4 stars20:22
Iesosso "5**** rm /var/log/kdm.log*"20:23
dwidmannIesos: then the command, something like rm /var/log/....20:23
dwidmannIesos: there ya go, save and make sure cron is running and you're set20:23
Iesosok, thx.20:24
wesleyemilsedgh that does not work20:25
favroIesos: does   cat /var/log/kdm.log | tail -n 20   show the error that makes the file so large?20:25
Iesosfavro, I have allready removed them :-/20:26
emilsedghwesley: unmount first: sudo umount -f /media/cdrom && eject20:27
favroIesos: oh well20:27
wolfjbdid a kde4 version of amarok not make it into intrepid? I can't seem to find it in adept-manager20:27
wolfjband the version I have installed seems to be for kde 3.520:27
gribshi, anybody speak on russian?20:27
dwidmannwolfjb: it's still in beta, so it's not in intrepid ... but you can install the beta if you want to (it will *replace* the kde3 version though, be warned)20:28
gribsno one?20:28
thedark_in kmixer, both capture channels symbols are red and have a "pause" symbol next to them, how do I fix this so that I can record?20:28
wesleyemilsedgh he still says he busy20:28
gribscould anybody help me with config dns on kubuntu 8.10?20:29
wolfjbdwidmann: ah. thanks20:29
thedark_ahhh... in the words of Al Pacino, "I'm in the darkness!"20:30
gribswho could help with configuring dns?20:31
wolfjbgribs: are you using bind?20:31
gribsno, ithink that it isn't hard question. this about dns on my desktop20:32
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wolfjbgribs: maybe try asking your question20:33
isaacj87hey guys...apparently KDE 4.1.3 is being made ready for intrepid-backports...yet, when I run kwin --version it says I already have it?20:33
isaacj87I haven't received any updates to Kubuntu, so what's the deal?20:33
gribsthere are server in my netvork with ip 192.168.169.1, and i wont to acces it by name, for example "server" from browser. What and where i must write for it?20:34
JontheEchidnaapt-cache policy kde-window-manager should tell the truth20:34
wolfjbgribs: the easiest way is to add it to /etc/hosts20:34
gribswhat will this string look?20:35
wolfjbgribs: I'm assuming you are on the same network.20:35
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gribsyes, of course. i can ping it20:35
isaacj87JontheEchidna: yup, how can I check my version of KDE 4 via CL?20:35
JontheEchidnaapt-cache policy kde-window-manager20:36
wolfjbgribs: look at /etc/hosts, and follow the pattern there, typically it's just <ip> <hostname> (for example 192.168.169.1 someserver)20:36
wolfjbgribs: then you should be able to contact someserver without having to use the ip address20:36
isaacj87JontheEchidna: ah, okay...no other way than that? How far along is KDE 4.1.3...is it almost done building?20:37
JontheEchidnaisaacj87: what do you mean no other way?20:37
JontheEchidnajust run the command and it will tell you what version kwin is at really20:37
isaacj87JontheEchidna: I mean, is there no other way to check my version of KDE 4.1.x. Like kde4base --version or something20:38
JontheEchidnaoh, you could look in the about dialog of any KDE app, but apt will be more reliable20:38
wolfjbgribs: you'll need to be root to edit /etc/hosts - so sudo vi /etc/hosts or sudoedit /etc/hosts either should work20:38
gribswolfjb, thanks, it's work!20:38
Machtinhowdy.. i got some pictures, which originally had a german 'ü' in their filename.. since quite some time now i can't access them.. can't watch, can't copy, can't do nothing.. when i want to do something with them, i get a message that they don't even exist20:39
Machtinso.. how to recover those?20:39
wolfjbgribs: welcome20:39
isaacj87JontheEchidna: Hmm...yeah, I guess so. I just checked in Konsole and it says I'm at KDE 4.1.3 :S20:39
FrauHansenhey guys! i'm having trouble with some icons since the upgrade to 8.1020:42
FrauHansensome are correct, some are missing, some are mixed up20:42
FrauHansenis this a known issue? how can i fox it?20:43
FrauHansen*fix20:43
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sourcemakerare there kde 4.1.3 packages for kubuntu available?20:46
isaacj87sourcemaker: apparently they're being built right now20:47
isaacj87sourcemaker: they'll be in intrepid-backports20:47
FrauHansenhere is a screenshot. clearly some icons missing and some (kmenu, trash) are mixed up20:47
FrauHansenhttp://www.abload.de/image.php?img=wrong_icons79bs.png20:47
sourcemakerisaacj87: cool...20:47
noobstyle!mount20:49
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter20:49
noobstyle!iso20:49
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.20:49
noobstyleHi. I have been trying to mount an .ISO file for some while. I want to mount an .ISO file without burning. Just so i can see the movie20:51
rickestmount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso mount/point20:51
noobstylewhat do you mean by mount point?20:52
rickestwhereever you want the mounted ISO to be mounted20:52
rickestcd ~/tmp && mkdir video_cd;  mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso video_cd20:53
dstambouFrauHansen: that's odd, all my icons work fine here20:53
rickestassumes a ~/tmp directory off your home directory20:53
dstambouFrauHansen: are you using a custom icon theme? Which one?20:53
FrauHansendstambou, no i don't. i used the oxygen icons before and after the upgrade20:54
memeemeeeSo I just installed a new realtek PCI gigabit ethernet card but have no idea how to make my computer recognize it. the only thing that show's up under lspci | grep Ethernet is the broken PCI-e (Marvell 88E8056)20:54
dstambouFrauHansen: try switching to another. See if it works, switch back. If not, look for an oxygen package20:54
noobstylerickest: i tried sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/storage/marc/Movies/De Andres Liv/DeAndresLiv.iso /media/storage/marc/Movies/De Andres Liv/20:54
dstamboukde-icons-oxygen - Oxygen icon theme for KDE 4 installed?20:54
noobstylebut then a loong list of options came20:54
FrauHansendstambou, i will try that20:54
rickestnoobstyle: first, you need to quote or ESC those file/dirnames with spaces in them20:55
FrauHansendstambou, yes: ii  kde-icons-oxygen20:55
rickestnoobstyle: 2nd, does the directory 'De Andres Liv/' already exist?20:55
noobstyleyes because it is the folder that contains the file20:56
rickestnoobstyle: mount to an empty directory20:56
noobstylei just tried to20:56
noobstylei made a subfolder called /iso/ still i get a looong list20:56
noobstylesudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/storage/marc/Movies/De Andres Liv/DeAndresLiv.iso /media/storage/marc/Movies/De Andres Liv/iso/20:57
noobstyleif i type that i get a looooooong list of options20:57
rickestnoobstyle: did you read my 'first:'20:57
noobstyle?20:57
rickest[13:55:23]      rickest | noobstyle: first, you need to quote or ESC those file/dirnames with spaces in them20:57
sourcemakerdoes kde 4.1.3 solves the nvidia problem?20:57
noobstylerickest: i dont understand?20:57
rickestthis filename.ext  must be expressed as "this filename.ext" or this\ filename.ext20:58
noobstylehmm ok20:58
rickestnoobstyle: paths, files, or directories with spaces in their names must be quoted "like this" or escaped like\ this20:58
isaacj87sourcemaker: i read a comment from a user somewhere that he had better luck with nvidia and kde 4.1.320:59
noobstylelike thi20:59
isaacj87sourcemaker: at least with kwin20:59
noobstylesudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/ storage/ marc/ Movies/ De Andres Liv/ DeAndresLiv.iso /media/ storage/ marc/ Movies/ De Andres Liv/ iso/20:59
noobstylestill does not work20:59
sourcemakerisaacj87: great20:59
rickestnoobstyle: why do you insist on ignoring what I'm saying about spaces?20:59
noobstylecan you make the line then pls?20:59
sourcemakerisaacj87: will the packages for kubuntu ready tommorow?21:00
rickestno, work it21:00
noobstylewell i made spaces all over21:00
noobstylei don't know what you want me to do then21:00
rickestnoobstyle: and in doing so exacerbated the problem.  READ MY ANSWER, I've told you like 4 times21:00
rickestincluding examples21:00
memeemeeeanyone help me setting up a new ethernet card on Hardy?21:01
noobstylewell im not the best english speaker and i do not understand what you wrote21:01
rickest[13:58:36]      rickest | noobstyle: paths, files, or directories with spaces in their names must be quoted "like this" or escaped like\ this21:02
rickestI assume you know what "like this" means21:02
isaacj87sourcemaker: maybe even by tonight21:02
noobstylehmm :D?21:02
denis__Hi !21:03
isaacj87sourcemaker: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.321:03
denis__What is the command to format my HDD ?21:03
denis__please :D21:03
denis__is there anybody out there ?21:05
anish_anyone know if kde 4.1.3 is coming to hardy backports ?21:07
ardchoilleanish_: it's a bugfix release so hardy main should get it soon.21:08
anish_cool21:08
geniidenis__: If it's sdb1 for instance, then:    sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb121:09
anish_you mean backports right ?21:10
JontheEchidnaardchoille: except that the major version in hardy is 4.021:10
anish_zigackly21:10
chairmanibex is so cool!!21:10
JontheEchidnaso a jump to 4.1.3 would be a feature-release jump plus a bugfix release jump21:10
JontheEchidnaand in other words, not going to happen21:10
denis__thank you genii ^21:11
denis__again ;)21:11
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: I've heard devs who disagree withyou21:11
Koordinhi, someone is saying me that i may have a conflict in several qt installations ; how can i clean them up with apt-get ?21:12
JontheEchidnahmm, I didn't hear anything about hardy-backports21:12
geniidenis__: np21:12
JontheEchidnaintrepid-backports yes, but not hardy-backports21:12
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: Ah, you're right. Hardy won't see it but Intrepid will. sorry, got confused with the names.21:13
JontheEchidna;-)21:13
ardchoilleanish_: Hardy will not see the update, but Intrepid will21:13
ardchoilleToo early in the morning here21:14
anish_not even here ? http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/21:15
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: I was thinking, since Hardy was a remix, would Hardy see that update?21:18
ardchoillekde4 is in the Hardy repos21:18
JontheEchidnanope21:19
ardchoilleoh well.21:19
JontheEchidnait still uses official ubuntu repos so we have to follow the rules for it21:19
ardchoilleMaybe this update will allow me to install and use Intrepid now21:19
JontheEchidnaeh, if you didn't like it before I doubt 4.1.3 will change anything21:20
JontheEchidnawe had most of the interesting crash fixes in our 4.1.2 packages anyway21:20
memeemeeeI'm having serious networking problems. I put the new PCI card in the computer but linux doesn't see it21:21
ardchoilleJontheEchidna: That's good to know21:21
ka9deI've got a performance problem with ATI HD2600 mobile, fglrx driver and KDE3.. for example, when i minimize windows, it seems very laggy.. fglrxinfo replies the right radeon chip, anyone with ideas?21:22
ardchoilleJontheEchidna:  Two crashes fixed in the Dolphin filemanager and several bugfixes in the Kopete. I may try intrepid again next week.21:24
frinux_why isn't OOo 3 included in ubuntu 8.10 ? Will it be soon ?21:24
ka9defrinux_ it was released too late21:24
ka9dewill be included wo 9.0421:24
ka9de*to21:25
isaacj87frinux_: Just add the OpenOffice Scribblers PPA and you can get it21:25
frinux_ok but it can still be packaged and released21:25
mikedomohi21:25
mikedomoi had some problmes with a web cam msi star cam 370i21:25
mikedomoisnt recognize for my system21:26
mikedomoi need help21:26
MarcoPauhello, since my last upgrade in which I installed kernel 2.6.24-21-generic I haven't been able to use alsa cause it says there no modules. what am I supposed to do?21:26
anish_the ppa doesn't have 3 yet21:27
anish_but you can just download the debs off the site21:27
mikedomoand also since the upgrade the kernel 2.6.24 to 2.6.27-7 my anothe web cam ezcam III isnt recognize21:28
mikedomoi have a black screen21:28
mikedomowith camorama, amsn, kopete21:29
isaacj87anish_: which ppa doesn't have 3?21:29
anish_http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu21:29
isaacj87anish_: yeah, it does. I just used it to install ooo321:30
anish_u'r right, it does21:30
anish_guess apt-get update isn't working for me for oo21:31
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anish_lemme try again21:32
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anish_nope, doesn't work21:34
ardchoilleanish_: What are you trying to do?21:35
leobuenas21:38
nerianhola21:38
genii!es21:40
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:40
leohay alguien que esta usando kubuntu 8.10??21:40
mefisto__redirection question: how would I add a line of text to an existing text file, creating a 2nd text file with that line of text appended?21:40
nerianleo, yo21:41
leoquetal esta?21:41
nerianlenta21:42
nerianmuy lenta21:42
leoyo ahora mismo lo estoy virtualizando con virtualbox21:42
ardchoille!es | leo21:42
ubottuleo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:42
leopero uso el 8.0421:42
nerianKDE 4 mola mucho, pero entre los drivers de nvidia, que están mal, y que no está muy optimizado, se nota mucha ralentización21:42
genii!es | nerian21:42
ubottunerian: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:42
leoahh21:42
leoa mi la virtualizacion me va bien21:43
leopero no me quiero arriesgar21:43
leopor el jaleo de configuracion que tengo en el 8.0421:44
wolfjbok, so I just did an apt-get upgrade and now my network manager says eth0 is not managed. previously, in order to get it to work I had to add an entry in /etc/network/interfaces (iface eth0 inet dhcp and auto eth0) how do I get network manager to manage eth0 again?21:44
leoahora mismo, estoy con virtualbox en el 8.1021:44
geniileo nerian Inglés solamente adentro aquí21:44
leook..21:44
d3vil__i need a putty ssh client for ubuntu 8.1021:44
trappistd3vil__: sudo apt-get install putty21:45
trappistI can't imagine why you can't just use openssh though21:45
d3vil__where  to write this comaand21:45
trappistin the console21:45
wolfjbd3vil__: adept manager is a tool you can use to find putty, look in Applications->System21:46
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chairmani got a qquestion can u run 8.10 on a mobile;PDA phone?21:47
chairmanor are they coming w/a mobile version?21:47
geniichairman: Probably not. There is somewhere a mobile ubuntu version21:48
geniichairman: Check https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pda21:48
ardchoillegenii: nice21:49
roberhola21:50
roberalgun español?21:50
chairmanok.21:50
geniichairman: Also http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile21:50
KDesk!es rober21:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about es rober21:50
KDesk!es @ rober21:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about es @ rober21:50
KDesk!es | rober21:50
ubotturober: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:50
KDesk:)21:50
isaacj87opensuse has a cursor theme call oxygen zion. I've looking on the web for it, but cannot find it. Can someone help me out?21:50
trappistd3vil__: please keep it in the channel - yes, in the terminal21:50
quentinhey there!21:51
isaacj87quentin: hey21:51
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mefisto__echo "this is a new line" >> file.txt will append that line to file.txt -- but how can I append that line to the text in file.txt, but save it all in a new file?21:51
quentinI need some help for kmail configuration with Gmail. Apparently, following the given guide by google doesn't help21:52
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quentin(I cannot send messages)21:52
wolfjbhow do I get NetworkManager to manage eth0?21:52
wolfjbthe client won't connect to eth021:53
Alex135wolfjb: it should do it automatically, is eth0 not listed or is it just not connecting21:53
wolfjbAlex135: it says it isn't managed and it isn't connecting21:54
d3vil__trappist is all ok in terminal21:54
geniimefisto__: Use tee21:54
d3vil__now what21:54
wolfjbAlex135: the actual text in the dialog is 'device is unmanaged'21:54
quentinmy conf is: smtp.gmail.com port:465 authentification: user: myuer@gmail.com password: my password security: SSL login method : plain21:54
Alex135wolfjb: have you tried a reboot?21:54
wolfjbAlex135: just rebooted after the upgrade21:55
quentinmyuser@gmail.com21:55
trappistdesti: now run putty - are you sure you need putty, or do you just need an ssh client?21:55
ardchoillequentin: I just let kmail check to see what the server supports. thee's a button for this in the smtp setup of kmail21:55
Alex135wolfjb: do you have custom compiled drivers for it?21:55
mefisto__genii: thanks21:55
Alex135wolfjb: wait, you upgraded?21:55
wolfjbAlex135: nope, stock install21:55
ardchoillequentin: my kmail is using port 25 and it seems to work21:55
geniimefisto__: np21:55
wolfjbAlex135: yeah, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade21:55
Alex135wolfjb: what does ifconfig say21:56
quentinardchoille: I've done that before, not working ...21:56
Alex135wolfjb: is it listed in ifconfig?21:56
d3vil__trappistnow what to doo .... id config defered procesing now taking  place21:56
d3vil__trappist now what to doo .... id config defered procesing now taking  place21:56
wolfjbAlex135: yes, and it has an ip address. but if I disable the wireless, my network connection disappears21:56
trappistd3vil__: your software is installed.21:57
d3vil__how to open  tell me21:57
Alex135wolfjb: is the wireless card external?21:57
ardchoillequentin: Server requires authentication (username + password)?21:57
wolfjbAlex135: no. this is a laptop. both wireless and wired are built in. I can turn off the wireless though21:57
d3vil__trappist how to open to config my ircd21:58
Alex135wolfjb: i was gonna say try rebooting with the wireless card unplugged21:58
ryanakcaHow can I stop Kubuntu from turning off after <x> minutes of inactivity? The laptop is plugged in, Intrepid.21:58
ardchoillequentin: Encryption = TLS; Authentication method = plain21:58
d3vil__trappist thnx tomuch i find it21:58
wolfjbAlex135: I have tried adding/removing eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and restarting NetworkManager would that matter?21:58
wolfjbAlex135: I tried that b4 coming here21:59
Alex135wolfjb: are you running intrepid?21:59
wolfjbAlex135: yes21:59
quentinardchoille that's what I have...21:59
Alex135wolfjb: thats yoru problem...21:59
wolfjbAlex135: nice.21:59
wolfjbAlex135: go back to hardy?21:59
ardchoillequentin: and you can receive mail but not send?21:59
Alex135wolfjb: yes, i went back after some compatability problems of my own21:59
Alex135wolfjb: kde4 isn't ready yet21:59
Alex135wolfjb: its better, but not ready yet22:00
wolfjbAlex135: <sigh>22:00
quentinardchoille yep22:00
quentinardchoille imap works fine22:00
Alex135wolfjb: sorry, its mentioned that its not as compatable so it shouldn't come as a suprise22:00
ardchoillequentin: go into kmail config > Identities > Advanced tab and check Special Transport22:00
Alex135wolfjb well no, its said not as flexible22:00
Alex135wolfjb: but its the same thing in this case22:01
wolfjbAlex135: I'm not really unhappy with kde4 itself, just that NetworkManager doesn't manage my wired network mostly at all22:01
pascalhey =)  i am new in linux... i am using Kubuntu and i don know how to do an update =(  (sry for my enlgish i am german ^^ )22:01
wolfjbAlex135: maybe I'll back that out by itself first, before I downgrade completely22:01
pascalcan somebody help me pls =)22:01
Alex135wolfjb: i know, i never tried the LAN but my WLAN was strange22:02
dwidmannpascal: just a regular update or a distribution upgrade?22:02
Alex135wolfjb: even with recompiled drivers22:02
pascala regular update =)22:02
wolfjbAlex135: I picked this laptop because the drivers were well supported, at least they were under hardy22:02
ardchoillepascal: open a terminal and run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade22:02
wolfjbAlex135: I assumed they would continue to be well supported in intrepid too22:03
Alex135wolfjb: yes, the problem is that intrepid isn't quite perfect yet22:03
Alex135wolfjb: KDE4's netowrk manager needs work22:03
pascalwow it works :o  thx :DD22:03
ardchoilleyw22:03
ryanakcaHow can I stop Kubuntu from turning off after <x> minutes of inactivity? The laptop is plugged in, Intrepid.22:03
Alex135wolfjb: i would go back to hardy, as it is better in performance and in compatability22:04
Alex135wolfjb: i can care less about the desktop effects it offers22:04
Alex135wolfjb:even though they are nice, they arn't essential, while compatability is22:04
quentinardchoille: ok now i'm getting something different22:04
wolfjbAlex135: yeah, and I have an nvidia card, so that was an issue during the beta22:04
wolfjbAlex135: I usually turn that stuff off anyway.22:05
quentinardchoille tells me that the server doesn't support plain id method22:05
Alex135wolfjb: ya, i never tried it on my desktop mostly because i need to make sure EVERYTHING works before i mess with it, i run VM's and have a lot of other essential stuff that is running on it22:05
dwidmannryanakca: you probably have guidance running, there should be an icon for it in the panel22:05
Alex135wolfjb: i would stay with hardy for now, wait till the next ubuntu release or kde4.222:05
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ryanakcadwidmann: I set it not to do anything after any inactivity22:06
wolfjbAlex135: may have to do that. that sucks. the point is that each ubuntu release is stable and it all works, not that it is released partially broken22:06
ardchoillequentin: go into the smtp setup and click the button that says "Check what the server supports" in Accounts > Sending > modify > security tab22:06
wolfjbAlex135: that would be the MS trick22:07
dwidmannryanakca: you just did now, or you did previously and the setting didn't take?22:07
ryanakcadwidmann: previously...22:07
Alex135wolfjb: another option is to try and find a way to recompile the drivers under intrepid and see if that works first22:07
dwidmannryanakca: hmm, I wonder if it's a known issue, I'22:07
dwidmann** I'll look and see22:08
wolfjbAlex135: good idea, I'll try that too22:08
ardchoillequentin: I just did that and it tells me that the plain method is the only things the server supports22:08
quentinardchoille that's what I've done. It selects TLS encryption and PLAIN method22:08
Alex135wolfjb: i am waiting to be able to do a bios upgrade on my Toshiba Satelite A135-S4666 and im not sure if it will screw things up or not... i have never had to do an upgrade since 2 yhears ago when i got it22:08
memeemeeeI need help! my new networking card came with an installation cd but I cam22:08
ryanakcadwidmann: thanks22:08
quentinardchoille yep, but it refuses to connect complaining about the plain method...22:09
memeemeeeI need help! my new networking card came with an installation cd but I can't get the drivers to install I can't even see the new hardware PLEASE HELP22:09
Guest53409oooo22:09
ardchoillequentin: pop does not support the plain method, do you have plain in pop config?22:09
Alex135memeemeee: 1st, if its an insatll cd it has drivers for WINDOWS! linux and windows dont work together, second, your card should be supported, what kind is it22:10
quentinardchoille I'm not using pop. Using imap but yes that's plain that it's using...22:11
dwidmannryanakca: I'm assuming you're running 8.10?22:11
draikIs there a widget to monitor bandwidth?22:11
quentinardchoille weird...22:11
Alex135draik: gkrellm?22:12
ardchoillequentin: I've enver done IMAP so I don't know how to help with that22:12
quentinardchoille imap is just for receiving messages, the smtp part is totally (I guess) independant22:13
wolfjbAlex135: bios upgrades scare me22:13
m_tadeuhi22:13
Alex135wolfjb:heh, ya, however it seems as it shoudln't screw around too much with what i have so hopefully it will be fine22:13
Alex135wolfjb: what is worse is its a "vista only" laptop22:14
m_tadeuhow can I rename the "volumes" in dolphin?22:14
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Alex135wolfjb: the bios limit some things in linux and it could get interesting...22:14
wolfjbAlex135: I have a Dell Precision M6300, I'm pretty happy with it, but I  haven't looked at the bios a lot22:14
ardchoillequentin: weird22:15
dwidmannryanakca: ?22:15
ardchoillequentin: Perhaps ask in #kde ?22:15
Alex135wolfjb: i JUST loooked up the bios and it turns out an upgrade came out this year so i know i have an older version, look up the stats for the Toshiba Satellite A135-S466622:15
quentinardchoille ok, will do that. Thanks for helping!22:15
Alex135wolfjb: i got it for $415 USD and its an amazing laptop22:16
ryanakcadwidmann: back, sorry, yes, 8.1022:16
ardchoillequentin: fwiw, did you try both ports 465 or 587 for smtp?22:16
wolfjbAlex135: that's amazing! mine was close to $3k22:17
SJrX Is there any benifit to using the 64-bit version of Kubuntu if my proc supports it?22:17
memeemeeeAlex135, actually there is a linux driver on the cd it's a Rosewill RC 400-LX (Realtek)22:17
Alex135wolfjb: the only downside on mine is the video card, its an intel media accelerator22:17
Alex135memeemeee: no clue, sorry22:17
wolfjbAlex135: well, if you aren't gaming, it probably doesn't matter too much22:18
Alex135memeemeee: or, what hapens when you try to install the driver22:18
memeemeeeI get [Module] error 222:18
m_tadeuSJrX: mine got a bit faster22:18
Alex135wolfjb: ya, but a bit of gameing is nice once in a while, a computer geek has to have a bit of fun when he fries his brain on something dificult all day :P22:18
wolfjbAlex135: no doubt22:19
wolfjbAlex135: I play openarena quite a bit22:19
_dennisterhi again, still looking for some basic networking help with new intrepid installation22:19
wolfjbAlex135: maybe someday I'll actually be good at it! :)22:19
_dennisterdhcp was working at first, now i can't even ping the modem/router22:20
Alex135wolfjb: other window22:20
dwidmannryanakca: this could potentially be related but it's hard to say https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guidance-power-manager/+bug/29085422:21
ryanakcadwidmann: thanks22:23
dwidmannryanakca: don't really know of a solution though22:23
dwidmannryanakca: short of not using guidnce22:23
ryanakcadwidmann: *nod*, thanks22:24
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_dennisterhi again, still looking for some basic networking help with new intrepid installation22:28
leonardolimahi there22:28
_dennisteranyone available?22:29
leonardolimaI need some help22:29
_dennisterdhcp was working at first, now i can't even ping the modem/router22:29
leonardolimaI can't open any web page on Konqueror22:29
leonardolimait doesn't load22:29
leonardolimaanybody can help me pliz?22:29
leonardolimauh?22:30
leonardolimanick leonardo22:30
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nardolimahello22:30
draik_What is knotify and kded22:33
ardchoilledraik_: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeaccessibility/kttsd/knotify.html22:34
mot_anybody else having a problem with firefox 3.0.3 on kde 4.1.2 (8.10) not saving cookied sessions? i.e. even if i check 'remember' me on sites i still have to come back and log in every single time i close the site...22:34
ardchoilledraik_: http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kded/html/index.html22:35
sergumahello, anyone here can help me with a problem?22:35
draik_ardchoille: Thanks. Is it safe to kill knotify? It keeps getting 86'd at every shutdown22:36
wolfjbhow do I change the runlevel in 8.10?22:36
wolfjbie during boot, I'd like to start at runlevel 522:36
vadraoHi all, where can I see the ethernet device/wireless device that is being used by my notebook in the system setttings. I am using Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4.22:36
ardchoilledraik_: not sure. I think knotify starts up with kde initialization22:37
draik_kded is taking 50-60% of CPUT22:37
draik_*CPU22:37
draik_Should that be normal?22:38
sergumaI just updated and I can't see the contents of my NTFS partitions :(22:38
wolfjbvadrao: if you have knetworkmanager running it should tell you22:38
_jeff_drumgod_algum BR por aqui ?22:39
ardchoille!br | _jeff_drumgod_22:39
ubottu_jeff_drumgod_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.22:39
ptlhello22:39
_jeff_drumgod_#ubuntu-br22:39
ptlhas anyone else noticed that the latest kdebase upgrade broke yakuake by not allowing transparence?22:39
ptl_jeff_drumgod_: ?22:39
FoodcomanAnyone know anything about working the task bar in KDE 4.  Im lost.22:39
_jeff_drumgod_ptl: hello22:39
draik_ptl: He forgot to put "/j" in front of the channel22:40
ptldraik_: I see :P22:40
draik_ptl: ;)22:40
ptlFoodcoman: what do you mean by working?22:40
ptlmine is working alright22:40
d3vil__trappist you have command to config one ircdserver in putty22:40
FoodcomanI wanted to group say my Web browser.22:40
d3vil__to add oper something like that22:41
ptlDoes anyone else here use yakuake and can confirm that, please?22:41
FoodcomanI just dont know how to configure it like kde 3.5.... LOST22:41
vadraowolfjb: I am running knetworkmanager (the little green world icon) in my taskbar. When I right click on it and check all the options none of them correspond to the thing I want to know22:41
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vadraoI have internet conection now.. But not through wireless.. So I want to check if Kubuntu has detected my device and do not know where to do or start from22:43
wolfjbvadrao: dmesg might tell you22:44
trappistd3vil__: configuring an ircd is very complicated.  there is no command.22:44
ilya_hi all . Guys how i can look in console - my bluetooth devices?22:45
d3vil__just for example22:45
d3vil__totell me22:45
d3vil__oper conf services conf22:45
d3vil__inlinux is diferent22:45
d3vil__or not22:45
ptlvadrao: try to update now, I just got my wireless working after that.22:46
_dennistertrappist: could u help me pls? having trouble with basic networking in intrepid...worked at first, now can't even ping my router22:46
ptlilya_: sdptool scan22:46
trappistd3vil__: I did it once a million years ago, but I don't remember much about it anymore.  you'll need to ask elsewhere for help configuring the ircd.22:47
ptlilya_: Sorry, that's hcitool scan. And if you want to see your local devices attached to your computer, hcitool dev22:47
d3vil__elsewhere hello22:48
trappistd3vil__: elsewhere means somewhere else22:48
d3vil__ok22:49
vadraoptl: I am using the latest 4.1.3 actually22:50
vadraoKubuntu 8.1022:50
KDeskI dont know why my monitor shutsdown after 10 minutes of inactivity, but I have it set to 6 in my System Settings, also the xorg.conf is clear. What else can it be?22:50
vadraoI would like to know how I can see which ethernet card I am using (not through command line) but through Knetworkmanager22:51
vadraoPlease give me the instructions to do so22:51
vadraoBecause geneuinely I am unable to find it22:51
wolfjbhow do you set the default boot runlevel?22:53
KDeskvadrao: I think that is not possible.. I haven't found it neighter.22:53
vadraoSo, is it that the Knetworkmanager (the latest version) is not capable of doing it ?22:54
ilya_ptl: tnx. hci0 == bluetooth? in kde4 i can manage my bluetooth device through gui ?22:55
memeemeeeAlex135, when i try to install the driver I get http://pastebin.com/m54ead52222:59
draikHow do I get a screensaver in /usr/local/bin/ to appear in my Screensaver menu?23:00
aaroncampbellif kpdf no longer in the repos for 8.10?23:03
leonardo_hi23:04
ardchoille!info okular | aaroncampbell23:04
ubottuaaroncampbell: okular (source: kdegraphics): document viewer for KDE 4. In component main, is extra. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 922 kB, installed size 2640 kB23:04
aaroncampbellardchoille: that's the preferred replacement for kpdf?23:04
aaroncampbelland/or kghostview?23:04
ardchoilleI think okular replaced both23:05
leonardo_IDK23:05
leonardo_I can't open any page on Konqueror23:05
leonardo_can u help me?23:05
leonardo_I can't open any page on Konqueror23:06
leonardo_can u help me?23:06
ardchoilleleonardo_: What exactly is happening?23:06
ardchoilleleonardo_: error? crash?23:06
leonardo_IDk ... I'm connected and I type a URL on Konqueror and it doesn't open23:06
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leonardo_I only connect on this IRC client23:06
ptl!info kviewshell23:07
ubottuPackage kviewshell does not exist in intrepid23:07
ptl!info yakuake23:07
ubottuyakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.3-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 1292 kB23:07
vadraoleonardo_: which version of KDE you are using ? Go to Konqueror>>Help>> About KDE and tell us23:07
leonardo_r u here yet ardchoille?23:07
leonardo_version 3.5.923:08
ardchoilleleonardo_: yes I'm here but your responses are a bit vague for me. Is konqueror waiting and trying to open the page or what?23:08
leonardo_apt-get doesn't work here too23:08
ardchoilleleonardo_: you need to update your system23:08
ardchoillethe current in hardy is 3.5.1023:09
leonardo_no the msg that appears is like that:23:09
leonardo_Um erro ocorreu ao carregar http://google.com.br/:23:09
leonardo_Não foi possível conectar-se à máquina http://google.com.br/.23:09
leonardo_how can I do that.. sorry I'm a newbie23:09
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FoodcomanHere is an interesting point.  Help/About KDE in Konversation shows KDE version at 3.5.10, yet Help/About KDE in Konqueror shows 4.1.323:10
ardchoilleleonardo_: open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade23:10
leonardo_it's working23:10
ardchoilleleonardo_: then restart kde and see if the problem still exists23:10
leonardo_u mean restart the system or just de x server?23:11
KDeskFoodcoman: there isn't any Konversation for KDE4, it is pre-alpha.23:11
greengobyI am looking to install kde4... is kde4-core the one to use to install the main components of kde?23:11
tacosarecoolhello23:11
ardchoilleFoodcoman: the reason for that is not all apps have been proted to kde4 yet23:11
ardchoille*ported23:12
FoodcomanKDesk: Gotcha.  I just thought they did a system call or something to get the version.23:12
greengobytacosarecool: Howdy23:12
leonardo_u mean restart the system or just de x server?23:12
ardchoilleleonardo_: after the updates complete, log out and back in23:12
FoodcomanKdesk: Anxiously excited about 4.2, hopefully it will add grouping tasks on the taskbar.23:13
leonardo_ok.. do u think it could be the browser? how can I get firefox here?23:13
jtechidnaFoodcoman: grouping has been added for KDE 4.223:13
jtechidnayou can even group manually. I've never seen any desktop let you do that23:13
ardchoilleleonardo_: it could be a number of things, but those maybe fixed with an update, it's good to run current versions23:13
KDeskFoodcoman: I am also looking forward KDE 4.2 :)23:14
memeemeeewhen i try to install the driver I get http://pastebin.com/m54ead52223:14
ardchoilleleonardo_: you can install firefox with: sudo apt-get install firefox23:14
ardchoilleleonardo_: but wait and see if konq works23:14
draikI don't know why, but everything is sending my processor into 100% usage23:15
leonardo_ok..23:16
Foodcomanjtechidna: 3.5.xxx had an option to group similar tasks ont he taskbar that I used.  That way all firefoxes where together when you had multiple windows.23:16
KDeskI think that is the common grouping way23:17
Foodcomanjtechidna: Missed your post,  Great its in 4.2... Wooop.23:17
jtechidna:)23:17
greengobywow... kdebase-kde4 is a mess...I get all types of unmet dependencies... I thought that was the purpose of apt-get install to simplify these issues...23:17
jtechidnagreengoby: in intrepid?23:18
greengobyjtechidna: Nope just from command line...23:19
FoodcomanLOL23:19
jtechidnaI mean, what version of (K)Ubuntu are you using?23:19
ardchoillegreengoby: are you running Kubuntu intrepid or Hardy or what?23:19
ptlwow, the packages I just updated today have a new version already23:20
ptllet's do a full-upgrade then!23:20
FoodcomanIntrepid = 8.10  Hardy = 8.04 right?23:20
ardchoilleyes23:20
greengobyardchoille: 8.04 LTS...not Kubuntu... I came and asked for the correct package name to install from command line...23:20
ptlno new versions :(23:20
ardchoillegreengoby: so you want kde4 on Hardy?23:21
greengobyIndeed...23:21
FoodcomanUbuntu base install adding KDE.23:21
jtechidnagreengoby: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.223:21
ardchoillejtechidna: ^^23:21
ardchoilleman, yu're fast :)23:21
jtechidna:P23:21
greengobyjtechidna: Thanks...23:21
* Foodcoman stopwatch showed seconds. BAM!23:22
tacosarecoolAnyway for ati x300 to behave good on 8.1023:23
tacosarecoolWell it's behaving good enough23:24
tacosarecoolBut not that well23:24
tacosarecool!ubotu23:24
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots23:24
Foodcomantacosarecool: I am having some ATI issues with the Raedon Mobility 3650......  Someone said its related in part to the newer X.23:25
tacosarecoolI know but is this the kernel or canonical?23:25
Foodcomantacosarecool: Im uncertain.  Just what someone else smarter than I said when I asked.  LOL..23:26
tacosarecoolI just hope ubuntu isn't a new vista23:28
tacosarecoolOpen source atleast23:28
tacosarecoolI'm glad it's open source23:28
bobbo85I just tried to make a new partition, gparted gave me an error "Syncing device. FAILED" - now the device isn't even showing up in the device list!  Any help?23:29
FoodcomanKDE 4 is  bigger, price for the the fancy bling.......  However most newer machines do great with it.  My laptop is not slow at all with it.23:29
tacosarecoolAt first I didn't like KDE4 now I do23:30
tacosarecoolI think they could optimize a little more though23:30
nprestaFoodcoman: I find KDE4 actually better with resources than KDE3 if you disable all the fancy 'effects'23:31
Foodcomantacosarecool: Polish will come as it matures.23:32
espereguwhy is lilo installed and not grub?23:32
Foodcomannpresta: I have not turned off anything yet.  Still flying on this machine.23:32
nprestaFoodcoman: for sure. Newer machines won't have any problem with KDE4 just as they didn't have any problems with KDE3. :)23:33
tacosarecoolHowever they stole something from mac23:33
tacosarecoolLol23:33
nprestatacosarecool: how so?23:33
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tacosarecoolI don't care that they stole something from mac23:33
tacosarecoolYou know that23:33
tacosarecoolTrick23:33
tacosarecoolWith where you can select windows23:33
tacosarecoolIt's like squares23:33
nprestatacosarecool: expose?23:33
tacosarecoolMaybe23:34
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tacosarecoolIt's like a task manager but in squares and fancy23:34
Foodcomantacosarecool: I am a windows administrator, Linux hobbiest and became a MAC admirer when they went to a unix core.23:34
brauerlehow do I upgrade from 8.04 to 810? Adept_updater doesn't tell, that there is a new release available, like it did on 7.10.23:35
nprestaIn all honesty, I'm glad there is competition and 'borrowing' of useful features. It makes things better and competition only drives innovation.23:35
npresta!upgrade | brauerle23:35
ubottubrauerle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes23:35
brauerlethx23:35
mitsarionashi... i just noticed kppp isn't in the intrepid default packages... is there any other app that handles dialup (among these installed by default) ?23:35
Foodcomannpresta: Complete argeement.  If its good, its good who ever came up with it.23:37
nprestamitsarionas: maybe knet?23:38
nprestamitsarionas: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/knet23:38
Foodcomanmitsarionas: check your repose that are enabled.  I show it.23:38
Foodcomanberickson@megageek4:~$ apt-cache search kppp23:39
Foodcomankppp - modem dialer for KDE 423:39
mitsarionashmm... didn't know about it... but still it isn't installed by default is it?23:39
nprestamitsarionas: I can't check. Is there a reason it has to be installed by default? I thought kppp was there by default23:40
mitsarionason intrepid it isn't! that's what surprised me...23:40
Foodcomanmitsarionas: No its not. go to the package manager and configure your repositories to add the other stuff.  Should show up after that.23:40
npresta!info kppp23:40
ubottukppp (source: kdenetwork): modem dialer for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 (intrepid), package size 668 kB, installed size 3628 kB23:40
nprestaIts in the main repo, but optional, yes.23:41
Foodcomanmitsarionas: sudo apt-get install kppp23:41
nprestaAnyways. I should be heading out. Later all23:42
Foodcomanl8r npresta23:42
Foodcomanme too.23:42
KDeskHow can I change the defaul apps size every time I start them?23:42
mitsarionasi know how to apt-get :) ...it's just that it struck me as weird not having a ppp dialer installed by default...23:43
bobbo85anyone good with gparted errors???23:44
mitsarionasknet seems cool too23:44
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estanhello. i just upgraded to intrepid and i lost all my notes (notes plasmoids), can i get them back?23:46
jtechidnaestan: the text inside the notes can be found in ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc23:47
estanjtechidna: ah thanks.. i see it now.. is there a way to re-enable them?23:47
bdizzlehi, I was wondering if there was a reason why Open Office didn't upgrade from 2.4 to 3.0 when it upgraded?23:48
jtechidnayou could copy the whole file to ~/.kde/share/config/23:48
jtechidnabdizzle: Intrepid doesn't have openoffice 3.023:48
estanjtechidna: ah so that's what happened, hardy -> intrepid went from ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde..23:49
jtechidnayup23:50
bdizzlestrange23:50
estani'll just re-create them and copy over the text.. have to re-format it a bit. thanks.23:50
marcoerm... where can I find kubuntu's power management settings?23:50
ErtainHello everyone.  Now that I'm in KDE 4.1 I can't use a menubar like that used in Mac.  So I need to change the menus to the normal looking ones like in Windows.  However, I can't figure out how to do this.  Any ideas?23:50
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tacosarecoolOh ertain23:51
werenerdhey all, anyone here have experience with Subsonic?23:51
tacosarecoolRight click the k23:51
tacosarecoolAnd click change to classic23:51
bdizzleis there a way to get the .deb files of it?23:51
tacosarecoolwww.getdeb.net23:51
ErtainAh, thank you tacosarecool.23:51
tacosarecoolYour welcome23:51
DarkSmokei think my kubuntu is not checking for updates23:52
DarkSmokei checked myself after a weak23:52
DarkSmoke72 upgrades23:52
DarkSmoke:/23:52
NekroJakubHi, I have a quick question. Can I do something like this: Install Kubuntu by using Wubi, and then from the level of that Wubi Kubuntu install a standard Kubuntu to a new partition?23:52
marcowhere can I manage the power management settings for my computer on kubuntu?23:53
ptlKOOL23:54
ptlmy kubuntu returned to work now23:54
ptlyakuake's transparency is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!23:54
ptlI can see gmail window right through you guys :P23:54
login_OI23:56
ptlOi, login_23:56
login_TUDO BOM23:56
ptllogin_: speak in english, please23:56
ptllogin_: fale em inglês aqui, por favor23:57
login_PODEMOS TC23:57
ptllogin_: Se você quer discutir em português, use o canal #ubuntu-br -- If you want to discuss in portuguese, use the #ubuntu-br channel23:57
ptllogin_: INGLÊS... ENGLISH... POR FAVOR / PLEASE23:58
login_COMO VAI23:58
ErtainMy programs don't have a "Files", "Views", or "Tools" options at the top of the programs.23:59

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