[00:09] <poolie> i got a "sorry, there was a problem connecting"...
[00:14] <spm> poolie: any page in particular?
[00:15] <poolie> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/293868
[00:15] <poolie> it didn't recur
[00:16] <Ursinha> poolie, a timeout oops?
[00:16] <poolie> no oops
[00:16] <poolie> not necessarily a big deal
[00:16] <poolie> anyhow no oops visible to me
[00:18] <spm> poolie: given the time? I'd suggest you nicely hit a log rotation, before the balancer noticed that the server in question was temp afk as it were.
[00:33] <NCommander> When will jaunty PPAs be available?
[00:34] <wgrant> When somebody clicks the magic checkbox.
[00:34] <wgrant> For each arch.
[00:34] <wgrant> It took a couple of weeks last time.
[00:34] <wgrant> No idea why.
[00:35] <NCommander> oh good :-P
[00:35]  * NCommander is preparing his set of uploads for Jaunty
[04:48] <synic> anything up with bzr today?
[04:48] <synic> I've made some commits that aren't showing up, and haven't for a few hours
[04:49] <synic> not just not showing up, but I can't access them via 'bzr pull' on another machine
[04:49] <spiv> spm: ^
[04:50] <synic> I push on one machine, and it says "pushed up to revision 1699", but trying to pull results in "already up-to-date", even though it's still at 1678 or so
[04:50] <spm> synic: what branch?
[04:50] <synic> lp:exaile
[04:50] <spm> spiv: ta for the heads up :-)
[04:50] <synic> let me get the exact url
[04:51] <spm> synic: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/exaile is a good starting point fwiw...
[04:51] <synic> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/exaile-0.3.0
[04:51] <spm> snap :-)
[04:58] <spm> synic: interesting.... on the file system I'm seeing revision 1689
[04:59] <synic> yeah, that's what I just pushed to (those numbers I gave you were made up)
[05:00] <synic> great.  Now it's working.
[05:00] <synic> sigh
[05:00] <spm> ah - right - cool - had me a bit worried there - so the problem is more in the interface only showing 1685?
[05:01] <synic> well, even a pull wasn't working, for probably 3 hours or so
[05:01] <synic> I've seen the interface take a while, but the local repo wasn't updating
[05:01] <spm> hmmm. unsure - spiv this might be back in your area of expertise?
[05:03] <spiv> spm: is the updatebranches job (or whatever it is called?) working?
[05:03] <spm> spiv: Possibly not actually - haven't had a chance to chase those down yet - ta for the reminder... looking....
[05:04] <spiv> It sounds like the script that's meant to copy updates from the hosted (bzr+ssh) area to mirror (http) area.
[05:06] <spiv> (It sounds like it isn't working, that is.  It helps if I write complete sentences...)
[05:06] <spm> :-) I got it
[05:22] <spm> spiv: yeah - 'twas busted. lost in it's own world and making a mess of ... everything.
[05:59] <Hobbsee> beuno: pong.  Yes please.
[06:00] <Hobbsee> beuno: looks promising, thanks.
[06:40] <ianm_> is the bzr repo working?
[06:41] <ianm_> someone sees "Tree is up to date at revision 745.", I see "Tree is up to date at revision 794.", website says it's at 788 hehe
[06:41] <spm> ianm_: yes - *but* :-) am working on it.... keeps getting itself stuck.
[06:43] <ianm_> spm: I'll try to slow down :(
[06:43] <spiv> ianm_: accessing branches via sftp:// or bzr+ssh:// will be up to date, even if http:// is running behind.
[06:43] <ianm_> hm ok
[06:43] <ianm_> does the website use http to get the info?
[06:44] <spiv> No, but the process that updates the website is the same copies the data to the http area.
[06:46] <ianm_> ah
[07:03] <spm> synic: ianm_: we appear to be unstuck at long last - so the changes should appear RSN.
[07:05] <ianm_> spm: great!
[07:06] <spm> I wasn't using a big enough hammer to smash things properly - selected the appropriate sledgie and all works again. ;-)
[07:08] <ianm_> spm the plumber
[07:09] <spm> heh. feels like it at times. crawling around the server sewers...
[07:48] <wgrant> spiv: Doesn't one only get to see the original (read: not mirror) copy of the branch through bzr+ssh if one has launchpad.Edit on it?
[08:53] <mrevell> Howdy Launchpadderoos
[09:10] <Hobbsee> evening mrevell
[09:10] <mrevell> hey there Hobbsee
[09:11]  * wgrant wafts in.
[12:34] <ahasenack> hmm, some bug listings in launchpad can't be sorted, while others can. Known bug? For example, I can't click on the columns here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/landscape-client
[12:36] <beuno> ahasenack, when in doubt, file a bug. Worst case scenario, it will be marked as a dupe, and more attention will be payed towards the original bug  ;)
[12:37] <ahasenack> beuno: ok, thanks
[12:37] <Hobbsee> ahasenack: that happens on multiple pages across launchpad.  i'm assuming it's something beuno will look into, as he looks at fixing some of the UI problems in LP
[12:37] <Hobbsee> but yes, bug.
[12:37] <ahasenack> Hobbsee: ok
[12:38] <beuno> Hobbsee, yeah, all listings will be changed before the end of 3.0
[12:38] <beuno> all will behave the same
[12:38] <Hobbsee> beuno: nice :).  When's 3.0 scheduled?
[12:38] <beuno> "in the best possible way"
[12:38] <beuno> I think july next year
[12:38] <beuno> but, many many many things will happen in between
[12:39] <Hobbsee> that's true
[12:39] <Hobbsee> like open sourcing launchpad, presumably.
[12:40] <beuno> I think that's scheduled around the same date
[12:40] <beuno> although other intermediate steps will happen in between as well
[12:40] <Hobbsee> right
[13:44] <mlischke> hi there
[13:44] <mlischke> just trying to get my feets wet with Launchpad first time
[13:44] <mlischke> and I got a little question
[13:44] <mlischke> how can I create a project group?
[13:44] <mlischke> I found the project creation page and created already two projects, but I want to nest them
[13:46] <soren> mlischke: You can make a project part of another project.
[13:46] <soren> mlischke: See the project's details page.
[13:46] <soren> http://launchpad.net/<project name>/+edit
[13:46] <soren> I've never used it, though.
[13:46] <mlischke> soren: I know, but this "super-project" must be a project group it seems
[13:47] <mlischke> Part of:
[13:47] <mlischke> (Optional) 	
[13:47] <mlischke> (Choose…)
[13:47] <mlischke> Super-project. In Launchpad, we can setup a special "project group" that is an overarching initiative that includes several related projects
[13:47] <soren> Ok, so you probably need to ask to have one of those created.
[13:47] <mlischke> I cannot specify one of my projects in the other, though.
[13:48] <mlischke> seems so, unless there is a (not so obvious) way to create a project group
[13:49] <mlischke> bac: ping
[13:49] <bac> mlischke: hi
[13:49] <mlischke> hey bac
[13:49] <mlischke> can you help me with my little beginners question?
[13:49] <bac> sure
[13:50] <mlischke> I need to create a project group in LP which is part of anouther project group
[13:50] <mlischke> But I don't find a link or setting to do that.
[13:50] <bac> mlischke: You want nested project groups?
[13:50] <mlischke> indeed
[13:50] <bac> Unfortunately we do not support nested project groups.
[13:51] <mlischke> mysql -> mysql gui tools -> several gui projects
[13:51] <mlischke> hmm
[13:51] <bac> For a project the size of MySQL it would certainly be nice but we just don't have the facilities right now.
[13:51] <mlischke> I understand
[13:52] <mlischke> any plans to add this feature in the future?
[13:52] <bac> mlischke: If you'd like to file a bug against launchpad it might help that feature get implemented, though I can't make any promises.
[13:53] <mlischke> Would you recommend to create a GUI tools project and add all the sub projects as separate branches or rather create individual projects?
[13:53]  * LarstiQ leans towards individual projects
[13:53] <bac> I would create separate projects.  Managing unrelated code as different branches or series is not the model we recommend.
[13:54] <soren> bac: Eh?
[13:54] <soren> bac: What do you call what MySQL already has?
[13:54] <mlischke> hmm, good point, though some code is shared among the other projects
[13:54] <soren> bac: and d-i? and mozilla?
[13:54] <bac> soren: Those are separate projects within a single project group.
[13:54] <soren> Isn't that what mlischke is askign?
[13:54] <bac> No
[13:54] <bac> He was asking for nested project groups.
[13:55] <soren> Oh, right.
[13:55] <mlischke> soren: basically yes, but I cannot create a project group gui-tools within the project group mysql
[13:55] <mlischke> hence I'm looking for a workaround
[13:55] <soren> Sorry, my mistake.
[13:55] <mlischke> there will be 3 projects (apps) and one shared (library) project
[13:56] <bac> mlischke: I think the only solution at the moment is to have lots of indidual projects under the MySQL project group.  I see there are already very many so it will just add to the existing one.
[13:56] <mlischke> oh yes, it already gets crowded
[13:57] <mlischke> bac, how would I drop a project I no longer need?
[13:58] <bac> File a request in the Answer section of Launchpad and a LP admin will take care of it.
[13:58] <mlischke> excellent, thank you
[13:58] <bac> np
[14:30] <verwilst> hellow!
[14:30] <verwilst> i just uploaded a new package to my ppa
[14:30] <verwilst> a few minutes ago
[14:30] <verwilst> but nothing seems to happen ;)
[14:31] <bigjools> be patient and it will
[14:31] <verwilst> ah, it's there!
[14:31] <verwilst> bigjools: hehe idd :D
[14:33] <verwilst> i uploaded the package for intrepid
[14:33] <verwilst> now i want the same package for hardy
[14:33] <verwilst> so i changed intrepid to hardy in the changelog
[14:33] <verwilst> and ran another debuild on it
[14:33] <verwilst> but now dput doesnt want to upload it because it already exists?
[14:34] <verwilst> what's the best way to upload a package for 2 distro versions?
[14:35] <bigjools> verwilst: use the copy packages feature
[14:36] <verwilst> bigjools: aah :) they told me in #ubuntu-motu to do it with the changelog :)
[14:36] <verwilst> can i copy while it's still building?
[14:36] <bigjools> no, you need to wait
[14:36] <bigjools> well - try it and you'll see
[14:37] <verwilst> hm, guess not :)
[14:37]  * verwilst loves his ppa
[14:38] <verwilst> the official packages that debian has suck really hard.. i guess i can make a bugreport asking them to import mine instead?
[14:38] <verwilst> ( talking about zabbix )
[14:38] <verwilst> or can i start a bugreport asking ubuntu to sync my ppa package to the universe repo?
[14:39] <bigjools> you could try to get someone to sponsor an upload for you
[14:39] <bigjools> or submit patches upstream
[14:47] <verwilst> hm
[14:48] <verwilst> how do i find a sponsor? :)
[14:48] <verwilst> hm Status is published, but when i try to copy a package it says i have to wait until it's published? :)
[14:48] <verwilst> or am i too anxious again? :D
[14:50] <verwilst> "same version has unpublished binaries in the destination archive for Intrepid, please wait for them to be published before copying" to be exact
[15:05] <pro-rsoft> Hi, if you request feedback from someone, why doesnt that someone get an email?
[15:06] <beuno> pro-rsoft, how ddid you request feedback?
[15:06] <pro-rsoft> just in the blueprint the button "Request Feedback"
[15:07] <beuno> sinzui, ^
[15:08] <sinzui> blueprints need smaking
[15:08] <sinzui> pro-rsoft: I don't have an immediate answer. I don't know if it even tries to send an email
[15:09] <pro-rsoft> sinzui, ok
[15:09]  * sinzui think blueprints needs dismantaling to be fixed
[15:16] <glade88> barry: ping
[15:17] <barry> glade88: pong (but in a meeting)  what's up?
[15:17] <glade88> barry: oh okay. I'll catch you later then :)
[15:18] <barry> np
[15:25] <verwilst> are you sure i can copy for example " zabbix - 1:1.6.1~ppa1", built for intrepid, to hardy in my ppa?
[15:25] <verwilst> it keeps nagging about "The following source cannot be copied: zabbix 1:1.6.1~ppa1 in intrepid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)"
[15:26] <kiko> verwilst, you can copy source + binaries, though the binaries are often uninstallable when going backwards
[15:26] <verwilst> aaah some people don't do ~ppa1 but ~hardy1 and ~intrepid1
[15:27] <verwilst> kiko: yeah i know, i just want my package to be available for intrepid and hardy
[15:27] <verwilst> should i change ~ppa to ~hardy and ~intrepid?
[15:43] <glade88> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/286342
[15:49] <bac> glade88: i think you're right that barry partially misunderstood this bug.  thanks for pointing it out.
[15:51] <barry> bac, glade88 yep, i saw the bug comment, so i'll respond there
[15:51] <glade88> bac: np
[17:28] <MTecknology> leonardr: you awake?
[17:34] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: hi
[17:48] <joshuablount> Can someone remind me how to get to a project's ppa ? /do and /gwibber are the two I need right now.
[17:48] <beuno> joshuablount, you need to go to the team
[17:48] <beuno> projects don't have PPAs
[17:48] <beuno> "for now"
[17:49] <beuno> I intend to change that ASAP
[17:49] <joshuablount> beuno: I guess after clicking around previous times I just eneded up at /~team-name
[17:49] <joshuablount> beuno: Thanks for the clarification :)
[17:49] <beuno> joshuablount, I feel your pain  :)
[18:19] <ahasenack> hi, how do I move a ticket from series N to series N+1?
[18:26] <bac_afk> ahasenack: hi.  could you explain more about what you want to do
[18:26] <ahasenack> bac: a ticket is being tracked in series 1.2, but it wasn't fixed in time
[18:27] <ahasenack> bac: I want to move it to the 1.3 series
[18:27] <ahasenack> bac: i.e., it won't be part of the 1.2 release anymore
[18:28] <bac> ahasenack: Are you referring the the 1.2 milestone?
[18:28] <ahasenack> bac: no, I have a series called 1.2 and another one, recently created, called 1.3
[18:28] <ahasenack> bac: the LP page says "Status tracked in 1.2 " for the ticket in question,
[18:29] <ahasenack> bac: and lists another line with "1.2     new" ("new" is the status)
[18:29] <bac> By ticket you mean bug or answer?
[18:29] <ahasenack> bac: bug
[18:29] <bac> Can you paste a URL?
[18:29] <ahasenack> bac: we used the bug to track a feature
[18:29] <ahasenack> bac: but that feature didn't make it in time
[18:29] <ahasenack> bac: it's a private bug, not sure if you can read it
[18:30] <bac> ahasenack: ok, i understand your question now
[18:36] <bac> ahasenack: You should be able to select 'target to release' and target it to 1.3.  It'll then be targeted to both 1.2 and 1.3.  You can then set the bugtask status for 1.2 to "Won't Fix".  You may want to try that on staging.launchpad.net to ensure you understand the workflow.
[18:38] <ahasenack> bac: hmm, bugtask? Should I see that now or only when it's targeted to 1.3?
[18:39] <bac> ahasenack: when you view the bug there can be multiple rows showing the bug targeted to different releases or products.  Each of those rows is a bugtask.
[18:40] <ahasenack> bac: right, I'm trying it now
[18:41] <ahasenack> bac: ok, I think that's it
[18:41] <ahasenack> bac: thanks again
[18:45] <bac> ahasenack: no problem.  glad we worked it out.
[18:46] <bigon> hi
[18:47] <bigon> how could I change the address where email that goes to my @ubuntu.com are forwarded?
[18:48] <stdin> it goes to whatever your default LP contact email address is
[18:49] <stdin> set it from https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editemails
[18:49] <bigon> statik: I have selected the @ubuntu.com address as the default one
[18:49] <bigon> stdin: ^
[18:50] <stdin> hmm, I'm not sure how LP deals with that
[18:51] <bac> hi bigon -- i don't know the answer but i'm looking for you
[18:53] <andrea-bs> bigon: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail (Launchpad primary address)
[18:54] <bigon> andrea-bs: well actually it does not cause a loop
[18:54] <bac> thanks andrea-bs
[18:54] <bigon> but does not use the address I want
[18:55] <andrea-bs> bigon: when did you change the primary address?
[18:56] <bigon> when I got it 1,5 year ago
[18:56] <andrea-bs> bigon: yes, but when did you set @ubuntu.com as default address?
[18:59] <bigon> andrea-bs: about a year ago i think
[19:01] <ahasenack> bac: hmm, so that task for series 1.2 is marked as "won't fix", and the new one for series 1.3 is "new".
[19:02] <ahasenack> bac: the 1.2 one (won't fix) is attached to a milestone, thames+1
[19:02] <ahasenack> bac: the 1.3 one is attached to the milestone thames+2
[19:02] <andrea-bs> bigon: oh, strange... I can't help you, so if nobody can answer you here, try on #canonical-sysadmin ;)
[19:02] <andrea-bs> bigon: sorry
[19:02] <ahasenack> bac: oh, forget it, I got it
[19:02] <bigon> andrea-bs: no problem I will ask on the other channel
[19:02] <ahasenack> bac: nothing like explaining the problem and seeing the solution right away :)
[19:03] <bac> bigon:  i've asked the sysadmins what happens in that case.  i'll let you know if i get an answer.
[19:03] <bac> ahasenack: great
[19:03] <bigon> bac: thx
[19:03] <bac> bigon: i know they have a test for an @ubuntu.com address, so i suspect they may just grab the next one.
[19:04] <bac> bigon:  however i see you do not have bigon@ubuntu.com as your preferred address in LP.
[19:04] <bigon> I've just changed it to test
[19:05] <kiko> I don't think using an ubuntu.com address as your preferred address actually works
[19:05] <kiko> salgado can confirm
[19:05] <bac> kiko:  this indicates it does:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2007-September/002081.html
[19:06] <salgado> kiko, I never remember how that works.  I know for sure that elmo does, though
[19:06] <bac> i see that mario does have his preferred email as his ubuntu.com address.
[19:07] <bac> but it seems like a strange thing to be concerned about.  just set the preferred email address in LP to the one you really want mail to go to and it should work for the ubuntu.com address.
[19:10] <superm1> Hi, can someone double check a hold up on an initial translation import?  Launchpad claims that it's been imported (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/dell-recovery/trunk/+imports), but there is an OOPS when trying to go to the link (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/dell-recovery/trunk/+pots/dell-recovery)
[19:22] <Odd_Bloke> So I'd like to get rid of the ridiculous number of 404s when bzr attempts to find .bzr/smart (or whatever it is) whenever LP mirrors branches on my server.  Will changing, for example, "http://bzr.daniel-watkins.co.uk/pqm/tag" to "http+nosmart://bzr.daniel-watkins.co.uk/pqm/tag" work?
[19:22] <bac> superm1: All of the translation guys are gone right now.  Would you mind opening a bug for this issue?
[19:22] <superm1> bac, sure just point me where to open it against and i'll do so
[19:23] <bac> Just against the launchpad project.  It's get reassigned to the right place.
[19:23] <bac> http://launchpad.net/launchpad
[19:23] <superm1> alright thx
[19:24] <bac> thanks
[19:24] <MTecknology> Is there any way to get this access? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/50189
[19:30] <kiko> MTecknology, how much do you know about openid?
[19:31] <MTecknology> kiko: some... not a whole lot
[19:31] <kiko> MTecknology, okay. so I suggest you first read into it and implement a simple openid client before trying to work out the groups extension
[19:32] <kiko> MTecknology, what are you trying to integrate? moin?
[19:32] <MTecknology> drupal
[19:32] <MTecknology> it has openid built in
[19:32] <MTecknology> the fridge uses drupal and I don't see any signs that they modified it much
[19:32] <kiko> MTecknology, the fridge runs a custom branch.
[19:32] <kiko> hang on.
[19:34]  * MTecknology sits wondering what trick or treat is coming
[19:35] <kiko> MTecknology, I don't know whether that code is released or not
[19:35] <MTecknology> dang, it's a trick
[19:35] <MTecknology> :P
[19:37] <MTecknology> kiko: I meantioned this to somebody else
[19:37] <MTecknology> I wonder if I can modify the openid login page to request the users openid url and use that...
[19:37] <MTecknology> I thought I posted something like that in here, but i don't see it
[19:38] <kiko> MTecknology, that question doesn't make a lot of sense.
[19:39] <MTecknology> which part?
[19:39] <kiko> MTecknology, I think you need to a) understand a bit more about the openid protocol and implementation b) explain in laymans terms what it is you're trying to do
[19:39] <MTecknology> Sorry for sounding like an idiot
[19:39] <kiko> MTecknology, it's just that what you are saying doesn't make a lot of sense and I think it's because you are rushing into solutions instead of talking about your problem
[19:40] <MTecknology> I want people to be able to log into my site without using the the openid url or user/pass. I would like to pass them to LP, have them login there and get passed back to my site with whatever they need to authenticate as themselves.
[19:41] <kiko> MTecknology, well short answer is that there's no way of doing that -- openid requires they provide a URL to the openid provider
[19:42] <MTecknology> how does the fridge do it... maybe that
[19:42] <kiko> MTecknology, they need to provide an openid URL, though if you have openid 2 implemented they can just say "id.launchpad.net"
[19:42] <MTecknology> 's what i'm getting confused on
[19:42] <kiko> the fridge does it using openid
[19:42] <kiko> or actually does it?
[19:42] <MTecknology> heh....
[19:42] <MTecknology> that form I have is pretty much ripped off from the fridge
[19:43] <kiko> okay so the fridge does use openid, it just hardcodes authenticating against launchpad.net
[19:43] <kiko> so yeah, this should be possible
[19:44] <MTecknology> except that what they do required special privs
[19:44] <kiko> no, I don't think so
[19:45] <MTecknology> that's what i got as a response on my question
[19:45] <MTecknology> that last link i posted
[19:46] <MTecknology> I'll be back in a few minutes
[19:51] <bac> hi bigon
[19:52] <bigon> bac: hi
[19:52] <bac> bigon: i have the answer about how ubuntu.com addresses are handled
[19:52] <MTecknology> kiko: class was over - I really need a proxy
[19:53] <bac> it is originally your preferred email address in LP.  but it takes up to 48 hours to get set up.
[19:53] <bac> if you later change your preferred address to be your ubuntu.com address, then the cycle is recognized and the update is ignored, so the forwarding address remains the old preferred address
[19:54] <bac> there is an outstanding bug to not allow people to set the ubuntu.com address as their preferred address in LP b/c it really makes no sense
[19:57] <bigon> bac: ok thx
[19:57] <kiko> MTecknology, looking into your request.
[19:58] <MTecknology> kiko: check the update on that question...
[20:02] <kiko> MTecknology, so.. I have good news and I have bad news.
[20:02] <kiko> MTecknology, the good news is that the stuff necessary to making the plugin work for you will be finished by december
[20:02] <MTecknology> It exists but isn't public?
[20:02] <kiko> MTecknology, the bad news is that it's december!
[20:03] <MTecknology> end of next month?
[20:03] <kiko> yeah
[20:03] <MTecknology> YES!!!
[20:04] <MTecknology> Have a link for updates?
[20:05] <MTecknology> I can handle waiting - 1 to 2 months is absolutely great. It'll give me a chance to focus on the activity of my loco rather that the technology available with it
[20:08] <MTecknology> kiko: Do you have any way for me to see when that plugin becomes available?
[20:08] <kiko> MTecknology, we'll probably do a public release of it, and it should go on launchpad.net/drupal itself
[20:09] <MTecknology> oh - umm - I always grabbed drupal from their site - 6.6 atm
[20:10] <MTecknology> so the fridge is running 5.2 atm?
[20:16] <MTecknology> kiko: If that plugin is released will it probably be a 5.x only or also 6.x?
[20:17] <MTecknology> I can handle switching to 5.x if that's the case but I'd prefer start working on the changes right away
 kiko, it's tested against 5.x only
[20:43] <MTecknology> kiko: Looks like I answered my question. 8.10 has drupal 5 so that's the version I'll need to move to for my site. Thanks for helping me out on that :)
[20:44] <kiko> heh, I wish I had helped more!
[20:46] <MTecknology> kiko: actually - that was an immense help
[20:47] <MTecknology> kiko: You think the announcement will be on lp.net/drupal/+announcements
[20:51] <kiko> MTecknology, flacoste_lunch tells me he will make a note to let you know when it's out there.
[20:52] <MTecknology> kiko: awesome - thanks again. I'm really thankful for what you've done for me :)
[20:56] <Lantash> I'm one of the developers of the LottaNZB project hosted on Launchpad and Bazaar 1.6.1 (u 8.10) asked me to 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance. Running 'bzr upgrade' locally resulted in "format 1 is already at the most recent format". And bzr got stuck while executing 'bzr upgrade lp:lottanzb'.  I finally upgraded Bazaar to 1.9dev. A local branch upgrade is still not possible and upgrading the one on lp.net produces the following mes
[20:56] <Odd_Bloke> Lantash: You were cut off at "following mes".
[20:57] <Lantash> [...] message: "[...] File exists: '/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/00/1a/c2/backup.bzr'". Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks alot.
[20:58] <kiko> MTecknology, not much, but okay :)
[20:59] <Lantash> @Odd_Bloke: The branch I'm talking about: https://code.launchpad.net/~lottanzb/lottanzb/main
[20:59] <Odd_Bloke> Lantash: I can't really help, was just letting you know. :)
[21:00] <MTecknology> kiko: I'm just happy to know what's going on as far as that's concerned. I have more questions about its dev - but I'll wait for the release... I'll also convert my site to use that code instead
[21:01] <Lantash> Never mind. There's hope that at least one out of 130 users knows the answer ;-)
[21:02] <kiko> Lantash, ah, hmm, you can sftp in and delete or rename that dir, I believe. have you tried lftp?
[21:02] <MTecknology> kiko: It's some good news to go against me having to write a vb program now... :P
[21:05] <kiko> heh
[21:21] <Lantash> @kiko: Would you mind telling me how to do this? sftp [what]? Deleting the file shouldn't be hard once I'm in the right directory :-)
[21:22] <kiko> lftp into sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~<lp-id>
[21:24] <Lantash> "lftp sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lottanzb
[21:24] <Lantash> cd: Zugriff nicht möglich: No such file: '/~lottanzb'" (lantash doesn't work either) Sorry for bothering you...
[21:51] <Odd_Bloke> Lantash: Have you set up an SSH key?
[21:52] <kiko> Lantash, hmm, maybe sftp://<your-lp-id>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~lottanzb?
[22:37] <logari81> hi, I am trying to upload a package to my ppa for the first time, but only dsc and sources files are being uploaded, no deb-package
[22:37] <logari81> this is my archive
[22:37] <logari81> https://launchpad.net/~logari81/+archive/
[22:38] <logari81> could anyone help me?
[22:42] <cprov> logari81: you only need to upload the source package to launchpad PPA, it will *build* the binaries for you.
[22:44] <logari81> cprov: I get the message, that they have been built, but I see no deb packages? takes it longer to see them in the ppa?
[22:44] <logari81> o yes
[22:45] <logari81> I see now, it was just a matter of time, thnx anyway
[22:45] <zooko> Hey, it looks like launchpad pushed some data into one of the tickets on my trac:
[22:45] <cprov> logari81: np, binaries take up to 20 min to get published in the repository
[22:46] <zooko> http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/ticket/402#comment:23
[22:46] <logari81> cprov: they are already there thnx
[22:46] <zooko> But what is that number that launchpad pushed into my trac?
[22:46] <zooko> https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=236190
[22:47] <zooko> None of the hits when I search for "236190" are related to tahoe ticket #402.
[22:48] <cprov> logari81: cool, thanks for using the launchpad PPAs.
[22:50] <zooko> Whereas here is a bug that *does* link to my tahoe trac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/allmydata.org/+bug/238658
[23:00] <spiv> zooko: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/pyopenssl/+bug/236190 shows a bunch of comments from your Trac
[23:01] <spiv> zooko: the same comments as shown on the other bug, oddly
[23:01] <zooko> Hm.
[23:02] <zooko> Well, it does make sense that Tahoe #402 is related to launchpad #236190.
[23:02] <zooko> Could launchpad be changed to post a hyperlink to itself instead of just a bug #?
[23:02] <spiv> Well, I guess it's not so odd, in that it's a remote bug watch on that one.
[23:02] <spiv> zooko: that would make sense, file a bug requesting it.
[23:04] <zooko> File a bug against which package or project?