=== asac_ is now known as asac === Mandus_ is now known as Mandus [09:09] ogra: ping [09:10] has anyone installed MID on a dell axim before? [09:11] or run the live CD version on a axim [14:06] brianchidester: I'm having some home construction starting up.....I will be in a bit late today while they ramp up. Ping me if you need anything. [16:03] ian_brasil, About hildonisation: Personally, I think it's best when upstreams either build both binaries, or make it available as a compile flag. In the latter case, I think it's best to build twice in packaging so that every architecture has both the hildonised and non-hildonised variants available. [16:07] persia: for liferea i did it like [16:07] dnl ******** [16:07] dnl Hildon [16:07] dnl ******** [16:07] [16:07] if test "x$enable_hildon" = "xyes"; then [16:07] dnl AC_MSG_CHECKING([for GtkHTML2 support]) [16:07] PKG_CHECK_MODULES([HILDON], hildon-1 >= 1.0.5,enable_hildon=yes,enable_hildon=no) [16:07] AC_SUBST(HILDON_CFLAGS) [16:07] AC_SUBST(HILDON_LIBS) [16:07] else [16:07] enable_hildon=no [16:07] fi [16:07] AM_CONDITIONAL(WITH_HILDON, test "x$enable_hildon" = "xyes") [16:08] ian_brasil, That's the nice easy way to do it :) In that case, in the packaging, you'll want to have two build runs, to create the liferea and liferea-hildon binaries. [16:09] ah ok , cool [16:09] Ideally, it would be nice to support a hildon environment for !lpia architectures : as an example, there are a few powerpc devices for which such an environment would be useful. [16:11] Currently, many of the hildonised packages in the repos are done in an architecture-specific manner, which means 1) it's hard to support powerpc or older i586 or i486 devices, and 2) One can't safely install Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu UMPC as lpia. [16:11] Given the increasing form factor of lpia devices, and recent news about more new powerpc devices, I think both of those are bugs worth fixing. [16:19] that is a great idea..i have an old powerbook powerpc that would look great hildonized [16:21] ian_brasil, Well, I was thinking of things like http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6400447723.html or http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9467588685.html but it works for older stuff too :) [16:22] Of course, 1GB flash is kinda small, but that's probably fixable somehow. [19:34] brian [19:34] u there === ogra_ is now known as ogra [20:46] ogra: ever get anywhere with the umpc to standard desktop howto? [20:46] rhpot1991_laptop, i never planned one for "standard" ... i think you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/TurnUMPCDesktopIntoNetbook [20:50] hmmmm, would it be hard to turn umpc into a standard desktop, and would that have any benefits over just using regular ubuntu? [20:53] rhpot1991_laptop, just only use the first apt-get remove :) [20:54] and wipe ~/.gconf [20:54] after that and installing firefox, you have a default ubuntu desktop [20:54] feel free to make a howto out of that ;) [20:54] heh, if its no different then its better to just stick with the standard install [20:55] I know some eee specific distros do tweaks to try and keep window sizes smaller, was wondering if anything like that would be in place [20:56] not yet [20:57] we will start pulling in app patches and also push them upstream in jaunty [20:57] at least I think eeebuntu is doing that, unless my eyes are playing tricks on me [20:57] umps in intrepid was only a first shot, mainly to get attention and generate feedback, in jaunty it might look totally different [20:57] *umpc === fta_ is now known as fta [23:01] hello [23:01] im using umpc version in acer aspire one, and is too unstable, u get gnome crashed each day [23:01] somes times in the day [23:05] every day also with the "wait" and "force quit"