[00:00] <emilien> MaximLevitsky,  dosn'y happen to me when i switch to tty
[00:00] <kitche> MaximLevitsky: more of a little annoying thing it should continue playing, might have a small pause though when your switching
[00:00] <MaximLevitsky> emilien:  I use interpid here, you too?
[00:00] <emilien> MaximLevitsky,  yes
[00:01] <DivineOmega> MaximLevitsky, I'm on Intrepid, and audio is fine when I switch to tty.
[00:01] <DivineOmega> (using Grooveshark)
[00:01] <MaximLevitsky> When you play a music player in X, right?
[00:01] <RenatoSilva> danbhfive: reinstalled but didn't ask anything about menu.lst
[00:02] <spolvid1> Anyone?
[00:02] <RenatoSilva> oooh what to do
[00:02] <minus198> Hi, I've made a file that contains: mplayer file.mp3 and it is exec by a crontab. But it only plays for about 1 second and then gets turned off. Anyone know how to solve this?
[00:02] <DigitalFiz> anyone using limewire in 8.10?
[00:03] <scunizi> !anyone | DigitalFiz
[00:03] <DigitalFiz> hahaha
[00:03] <DigitalFiz> i love when i get the triggers used on me
[00:03] <Iradieh> Could someone take a look at these errors http://subby.zapto.org/core.log and http://subby.zapto.org/seivan-xbmc.log | Some background, before XBMC when I played movies in MPLAYER the screen would go dark after 20-30 minutes (it was random). It was not
[00:03] <wbk> /quit
[00:03] <Iradieh>  screensaver or powersaving and I trid  restarting gdm but still nothing. I could hear sounds, but the screen went dark. NOW with MPLAYER it worksi fine, no issues there AT ALL. But the it transferred to Xbmc, could someone please help me
[00:03] <spolvid1> Gah, I'm never going to get this running.
[00:03] <DivineOmega> Does anyone know what package the Gnome Panel Clock Applet is in?
[00:03] <DigitalFiz> ok anyone successfully using limewire in 8.10 and what did they do to make it work :P
[00:04] <emilien> DigitalFiz,  forstwir is as good or dare i say batter and free try it out
[00:04] <turtle_> election 08
[00:04] <emilien> DigitalFiz,  forstwire is as good or dare i say batter and free try it out
[00:04] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, just guessing but it might be portforwarding issue with your router if you have one.
[00:04] <DigitalFiz> emilien, as much content as limewire? or is it just the same network
[00:04] <DigitalFiz> scunizi, nah the program is dieing
[00:05] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, running in wine?
[00:05] <DigitalFiz> scunizi, no the native debian package
[00:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> once again
[00:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> Two questions: 1) Pidgin crashes on Intrepid (install from ubuntu repos), I disabled every single plugin but still... how can I track the source of it?
[00:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> m... how can i restart the apt-get database? apt-get clean didn't do anything
[00:05] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, sorry.. I've no idea at this point.. I don't really use p2p progs.
[00:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> 2) I added some repos and packages, I uninstalled them and erased the repos but still, I get the packages on the apt-ger Install autocomplete suggestions... tells me that a package is referencing the,
[00:05] <turtle_> Azhi, I hate it when that happens
[00:05] <emilien> DigitalFiz,  yes same frostwire has content as limewire .. correct me if i wrong ?
[00:06] <decherdt> !wireless > decherdt
[00:06] <turtle_> frostwire=limewire
[00:06] <kingsofleon> forstwire=limewire without ads
[00:06] <DigitalFiz> ok ty guys
[00:06] <emilien> thanks wasn't sure xD
[00:06] <emilien> perfer torrent imho
[00:07] <turtle_> vote green
[00:07] <DigitalFiz> me too
[00:07] <DivineOmega> Does anyone know what package the Gnome Panel Clock Applet is in?
[00:07] <Mixed_--_> anybody knows where the "network-script" folder is located in ubuntu or what is its equivalent?????
[00:07] <scunizi> DivineOmega, you trying to get it back on the panel?
[00:07] <aduarte> Is normal that some display settings working on live stop working after installation?
[00:07] <maikeul> hi
[00:08] <DivineOmega> scunizi, no, I want to hack around in the source code.
[00:08] <DivineOmega> I want to work on fuzzy time for Gnome.
[00:08] <scunizi> DivineOmega, ah.. sorry I've no idea.. does www.google.com/linux tell you anything?
[00:09] <DivineOmega> scunizi, Tried Google already, and read through a few synaptic package descriptions.
[00:09] <prince_jammys> DivineOmega: find a file that's installed by the app (even something like the icon) and do dpkg -S filename
[00:09] <scunizi> DivineOmega, have you seen this.. http://www.gnome.org/~bmsmith/gconf-docs/C/clock-applet.html
[00:10] <turtle_> whats fuzzy time?
[00:10] <turtle_> my uncle is a sr. unix admin
[00:10] <DivineOmega> scunizi, Nope.. That package does not exist in Ubuntu though.
[00:10] <scunizi> turtle_, fuzzy time is when you listen to and believe the exit polls tonight.
[00:10] <Cavisty^gerber> LOL
[00:11] <Cavisty^gerber> DID ANYBODY JUST SEE THAT
[00:11] <Cavisty^gerber> ON FOX
[00:11] <DivineOmega> prince_jammys, Not sure what I'd be looking for though.
[00:11] <FloodBot1> Cavisty^gerber: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <turtle_> lol
[00:11] <kitche> !offtopic | Cavisty^gerber
[00:11] <decherdt> I get a pan0, but no wlan0 with ndiswrapper, netgear WG311v3, Intrepid amd64, works in Hardy i386 http://paste.ubuntu.com/67613/
[00:11] <Cavisty^gerber> Oh, jesus, my bad, wrong channel
[00:11] <Iradieh> Could someone take a look at these errors http://subby.zapto.org/core.log and http://subby.zapto.org/seivan-xbmc.log | Some background, before XBMC when I played movies in MPLAYER the screen would go dark after 20-30 minutes (it was random). It was not
[00:11] <Iradieh>  screensaver or powersaving and I trid  restarting gdm but still nothing. I could hear sounds, but the screen went dark. NOW with MPLAYER it worksi fine, no issues there AT ALL. But the it transferred to Xbmc, could someone please help me
[00:12] <i-unknown> is there a way to limit the amount of bandwidth for apt-get?
[00:12] <jzitt> I have a couple of flash drives, connected as /media/KINGSTON and /media/disk-1 . How do I tell which corresponds to /dev/sdb1 ?
[00:13] <scunizi> jzitt, sudo fdisk -l might tell you
[00:13] <Conglomo> So when I expire a users' password with "passwd -e <username>" it makes the user no longer able to log in. It says their password is expired and says that they need to change it, and then closes the connection (ssh). Is there a way I can fix this? In the previous versions of Ubuntu (7.04) it would ask the user to enter a new password and everything would be fine.
[00:13] <prince_jammys> DivineOmega: probably gnome-applets is the package.
[00:14] <koshari> jzitt gparted will tell you
[00:14] <jzitt> scunizi: Thanks!
[00:14] <ozatomic> since upgrading to 8.10 my gnome has stoped working? i login and then it goes to just a browny wallpaper and sits there with the mouse and nothing happeneds?
[00:14] <DivineOmega> prince_jammys, I'm just downloading that now. I'll take a look.
[00:14] <MrException> jzitt: just use  mount without any arguments is the easiest
[00:15] <prince_jammys> DivineOmega: earlier i misunderstood. i thought you already had it installed and forgot the package name
[00:15] <samtb2> i'm trying to install ant on intrepid with openjdk already installed, but it's insisting on gcj, does anyone know if this is right or if not what to do?
[00:16] <DivineOmega> prince_jammys, I have it installed, but I want the source code. I wasn't sure of the package name to get the source.
[00:16] <prince_jammys> ah
[00:18] <DivineOmega> prince_jammys, I doesn't seem to be gnome-applets that contains the clock from looking at the source... hmmm
[00:18] <sackboy12> how come ubuntu won't let me mount a usb. it says " must be mounted by superuser"
[00:18] <DivineOmega> I thought it would have been.
[00:18] <chad1> I am having some issues with suspend mode ... basically it seems that something is not going to low power mode since my laptop only lasts about 2 hours suspended in ubuntu 8.10
[00:18] <supertanker> What's the latest version of Gimp in the repos? I have 2.4.5 and yet it says it's the most recent version.
[00:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> Nothing?
[00:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> Two questions: 1) Pidgin crashes on Intrepid (install from ubuntu repos), I disabled every single plugin but still... how can I track the source of it?
[00:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> 2) I added some repos and packages, I uninstalled them and erased the repos but still, I get the packages on the apt-ger Install autocomplete suggestions... tells me that a package is referencing the,
[00:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> m... how can i restart the apt-get database? apt-get clean didn't do anything
[00:19] <mohbana> hello, does flash work?
[00:19] <DivineOmega> prince_jammys, Found it. For future reference, it is in the gnome-panel package
[00:19] <prince_jammys> Azhi_Dahaka: apt-get update
[00:19] <linkmaster03> Azhi_Dahaka: sudo apt-get update
[00:19] <prince_jammys> DivineOmega: ok
[00:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> done that and no fix
[00:20] <SherlawkDragon> I've been having a very bad problem since I installed Ubuntu... My computer keeps freezing in a way that the keyboard input and most of the GUI stops working
[00:20] <compu73rg33k> I'm running 8.10 x86_64 with firefox 3 and i've installed sun-java6-jre but firefox doesn't render java objects ... I thought there used to be a java6-plugin but I can't find it in the repositories
[00:20] <qowao> hey i have a serious problem i tried to change the menu.lst in /boot/grub to tweak it a little and i just changed the default timeout and the colors and the default boot partition. worked all fine. boots automatically from the part i wanted. but problem now: i cant boot ubuntu anymore, it says something like ERROR 15, file not found =/
[00:20] <Flare183> How do I add myself as a user into the group plugdev?
[00:21] <Conglomo> gpasswd -a user plugdev
[00:21] <SherlawkDragon> so I have to go through my workspaces with my mouse and close everything manually, then hold the power button till it cuts off
[00:21] <Flare183> Thanks Conglomo
[00:21] <Maeva> When I installed ubuntu I didn't make a swap partition. I have type ext3 with /dev/sda1 is that ok ?
[00:21] <StevenX> anyone here know how to make par2verify go into subfolders (i.e., is there a recursive flag?)
[00:21] <SherlawkDragon> I may or may not be pressing some key, but I don't know why any key would do that
[00:22] <chad1> Maeva: I think it has to be type swap to work
[00:22] <SherlawkDragon> mohbana> if you install it, yes.
[00:22] <chad1>  I am having some issues with suspend mode ... basically it seems that something is not going to low power mode since my laptop only lasts about 2 hours suspended in ubuntu 8.10
[00:22] <Xamusk> I'm having a pretty strange problem with intrepid. My printer is clipping the first centimeter of my prints
[00:22] <qowao> >8-{        }
[00:23] <fwaokda> My Ubuntu is having problems with my title bar on all the windows I have open.  The bar "glitches" everytime my mouse hover overs the minimize, maximize, or close buttons at the top left.  Can someone help me fix this annoying problem :( ???
[00:23] <SherlawkDragon> chad1> what kind of laptop?
[00:23] <SherlawkDragon> HP?
[00:23] <Xamusk> it doesn't matter if I print in OO.o, acroread, evince or okular
[00:23] <gwkalrod> xamusk, are you sure your printer can print at the point which it clipping?
[00:23] <chad1> SherlawkDragon: dell xps m1710
[00:23] <samtb2> i'm trying to install ant on intrepid with openjdk already installed, but it's insisting on gcj, does anyone know if this is right or if not what to do?
[00:23] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, it used to
[00:24] <mcquaid> i normally use wine, but want to try out the free crossover version.  does crossover place nice with an existing ~/.wine dir? like does it create .crossover instead?
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon> chad1> something similar happened to me, it might be an acpi problem
[00:24] <mcquaid> er play nice...
[00:24] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, actually I detected it because of a document that I always make copies of, which is having its margins clipped
[00:24] <gwkalrod> xamusk, check what paper size you've set the printer to, should be 8.5x11 normally
[00:24] <chad1> mcquaid: crossover doesnt use the system wine at all .. it uses its own
[00:24] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, A4
[00:25] <linkmaster03> mcquaid: yeah crossover has nothing to do with wine
[00:25] <qowao> can you help me? i cant boot ubuntu anymore
[00:25] <linkmaster03> mcquaid: so you will be fine
[00:25] <chad1> SherlawkDragon: humm .. that sounds about right .. .any way of telling what is not shutting down
[00:25] <deftone> Anyone know if there's a program or a way to make my own Grub Menu background?? I want to make or download one with Linux and Vista on it to show I have a dual boot system.
[00:25] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> use pastebin, show us what you changed
[00:25] <mcquaid> well crossover has a lot to do with wine
[00:25] <Flare183> Every time I put a cd into the drive, Ubuntu give me an error message saying that I don't have the permission to mount/access the drive. How can I fix this?
[00:25] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: ok hold on
[00:25] <gwkalrod> xamusk, do you use 8.5x11 paper?
[00:25] <SherlawkDragon> !pastebin]
[00:25] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: the entire thing?
[00:25] <SherlawkDragon> !pastebin
[00:25] <gwkalrod> because A4 is sloghtly narrower
[00:25] <qowao> tx
[00:25] <gwkalrod> and longer
[00:25] <linkmaster03> deftone: yes, one second
[00:26] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, I use A4 paper, with A4 settings in all the apps and drivers
[00:26] <jrib> deftone: yes, such a thing exists
[00:26] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> the file you changed
[00:26] <chad1> mcquaid: crossover has nothign to do with the package wine ... you can remove the system wine and not effect crossover.  It uses its own embeded wine install
[00:26] <qowao> ok SherlawkDragon
[00:26] <compu73rg33k> so there's no 64 bit sun-java6-plugin ?
[00:26] <qowao> thx SherlawkDragon
[00:26] <gwkalrod> what program are you using to print?
[00:26] <deftone> linkmaster03: thanks bud....can you tell me how?
[00:26] <scunizi> Xamusk, check the paper size settings in http://localhost:631 to make sure.
[00:26] <linkmaster03> deftone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[00:26]  * SherlawkDragon reasks his question:
[00:26] <linkmaster03> deftone: it tells how to make your own theme
[00:26] <SherlawkDragon> I've been having a very bad problem since I installed Ubuntu... My computer keeps freezing in a way that the keyboard input and most of the GUI stops working
[00:26] <mcquaid> yes, just curious chad1 what it's uses for a home config dir if not ~/.wine
[00:26] <jrib> compu73rg33k: right, sun does not make one.  Use open java or install 32bit firefox
[00:26] <SherlawkDragon> so I have to go through my workspaces with my mouse and close everything manually, then hold the power button till it cuts off
[00:26] <smuikas> Hiya... a quick google search didn't turn anything up for getting dual head monitors working on a laptop.. anyone have a quick link to a guide by any chance?
[00:26] <deftone> K let me check it out
[00:26] <SherlawkDragon> I may or may not be pressing some key, but I don't know why any key would do that
[00:26] <zoidfarb> Hey, is there a way I can download individual packages and save them to a USB drive?
[00:26] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, every program I tested has problems: OO.o, acroread, evince, okular
[00:27] <compu73rg33k> Isn't java open source now though jrib? Can we expect the community to make one in the future?
[00:27] <chad1> mcquaid: it places its bottles in ~/.cxoffice
[00:27] <SherlawkDragon> Anyone know what this might be?
[00:27] <gwkalrod> sherlawk, is the cpu usage at max?
[00:27] <mcquaid> k thx
[00:27] <jrib> compu73rg33k: there already is one
[00:27] <gwkalrod> xamusk, what prinetr are you using?
[00:27] <jrib> ...
[00:27] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, HP PSC 1315
[00:28] <scunizi> SherlawkDragon, a better way to shutdown until you figure this out is to ctrl+alt+f2.. login.. then sudo shutdown now
[00:28] <can-o-worms> Can someone tell me if my sd card slot should just work out of the box, or do i need to configure something?
[00:28] <mcquaid> can i pull this off? I have office installed in my windows part, but i can't find my office cd right now. is there any way i can just run the windows installed version with codeweavers?
[00:28] <jrib> compu73rg33k: there already is one, but not from sun: icedtea6-plugin
[00:28] <compu73rg33k> oh so should i completely uninstall sun-java6?
[00:28] <mcquaid> you can sometimes get away with that in wine but it failed with office
[00:28] <SherlawkDragon> gwkalrod> I don't think so, it only gets there when I run a program I'm working on, why?
[00:28] <mcquaid> i thought maybe some common files copied over or something...
[00:28] <chad1> mcquaid: no you cant because you would be missing the libs and the registry settings from windows
[00:28] <SherlawkDragon> scunizi> um....
[00:28] <chad1> sorry :-(
[00:28] <SherlawkDragon> you need to read what I wrote
[00:29] <SherlawkDragon> "Keyboard does not work"
[00:29] <scunizi> mcquaid, you could use the vmware tool to make a vm out of your windows install and run it in entirety inside of vmware server in ubuntu
[00:29] <smuikas> any reason why the "resolution" section in Preferences doesn't configure desktop-extending correctly? It's cloning my desktop across two monitors right now instead of extending it. "clone" is unchecked.
[00:29] <mcquaid> ya i thought that.  i thought maybe people have made reg importers and such
[00:29] <gwkalrod> you said keybaord and gui stopped working
[00:29] <scunizi> SherlawkDragon, sorry.. missed that.
[00:29] <Flare183> mcquaid: Why can't you use OpenOffice?
[00:29] <scunizi> SherlawkDragon, is it a usb keyboard?
[00:29] <Area_51> Hello is anyone ready for challenge with a web page
[00:29] <Flare183> !who
[00:29] <SherlawkDragon> no
[00:29] <jrib> compu73rg33k: no you can still use sun's jre if you want
[00:29] <mcquaid> scunizi, ya that's a cool idea, but this old bucket isn't up for that ;)
[00:29] <Flare183> !ot | Area_51
[00:29] <SherlawkDragon> I'm on a Compaq Presario Laptop
[00:30] <SherlawkDragon> built in keyboard
[00:30] <scunizi> SherlawkDragon, do you have a usb keyboard you can plug into it? and try?
[00:30] <Xamusk> scunizi, all printer settings are right in localhost:631
[00:30] <compu73rg33k> alright cool thanks jrib i'll see if it openjdk works and just use that instead to support open source :)
[00:30] <gwkalrod> xamusk, you said it worked before now fine?
[00:30] <Xamusk> gwkalrod, before intrepid
[00:30] <scunizi> Xamusk, what printer
[00:30] <gwkalrod> ah
[00:30] <mcquaid> Flare183, I love OO but it's some work related stuff doing some stuff that isn't really playing nice in office's calc
[00:30] <Area_51> ok then I will explain this out in the open channel
[00:30] <Xamusk> scunizi, HP PSC 1315
[00:31] <scunizi> Xamusk, and are you using the drivers that came with ubuntu or have you gone to hp's site and tried downloading their drivers?
[00:31] <gwkalrod> what he said :D
[00:31] <Xamusk> scunizi, the ones with Ubuntu, which I used in Hardy too
[00:31] <Flare183> mcquaid: Upload it and give me a link to it, or try sending it to me. I might be able to fix it up for you.
[00:32] <chad1>  I am having some issues with suspend mode ... basically it seems that something is not going to low power mode since my laptop only lasts about 2 hours suspended in ubuntu 8.10.  Also my fans dont seem to be working correctly the laptop is getting pretty hot.
[00:32] <Mixed_--_> who's winning??? mccain or obama bin laden???
[00:32] <jrib> Mixed_--_: stay on topic here
[00:32] <compu73rg33k> I wonder why sun doesn't make a 64 bit plugin?
[00:32] <gwkalrod> i'm gonna go check if anything changed with prinetr interaction, anything major that is, or at elast, check if it's documented
[00:32] <compu73rg33k> especially if they've made a 64 bit jre?
[00:32] <scunizi> Xamusk, you might get HP's driver direct and install a "second" instance of the printer using theirs.. sometimes that works.
[00:32] <jrib> compu73rg33k: beats me, the bug in their tracker is several years old
[00:32] <SherlawkDragon1> but I'll try to remember to try a USB one next time....
[00:32] <LF|Irssi_> will doing ctrl+alt+backspace let me log into KDE? (I just installed KDE4) or will i have to completely reboot?
[00:32] <SherlawkDragon1> sorry, LAN cable is broken
[00:33] <Mixed_--_> jrib: im on a library without TV access, if someone that is watching the tube can update me that will be awesome
[00:33] <jrib> LF|Irssi_: restarting gdm will probably work
[00:33] <Iradieh> Could someone take a look at these errors http://subby.zapto.org/core.log and http://subby.zapto.org/seivan-xbmc.log | Some background, before XBMC when I played movies in MPLAYER the screen would go dark after 20-30 minutes (it was random). It was not
[00:33] <Iradieh>  screensaver or powersaving and I trid  restarting gdm but still nothing. I could hear sounds, but the screen went dark. NOW with MPLAYER it worksi fine, no issues there AT ALL. But the it transferred to Xbmc, could someone please help me
[00:33] <jrib> !ot | Mixed_--_
[00:33] <LF|Irssi_> ok ty
[00:33] <scunizi> LF|Irssi, it will get you to the login screen and allow you to change sessions to kde4
[00:33] <Area_51> Their are hidden midi congs in each of the web pages in this link I have download timidty and mozplugger and other related midi stuff to get these files to play please tell me if your web browser will play the midi files with in this link.
[00:33] <Xamusk> scunizi, isn't HPLIP itself made with support from HP?
[00:33] <jrib> Mixed_--_: and it's really pitiful that you can't election results in a library btw
[00:33] <compu73rg33k> I can't stand how these companies are slow to adopt 64 bit ... when the fuck is Adobe going to figure out people use 64 bit on linux???!
[00:33] <Area_51> http://www.crystalinks.com/12pyrthoth.html
[00:33] <Flare183> !ot | Area_51
[00:33] <LF|Irssi_> thanks you two
[00:33] <jrib> !ohmy | Area_51
[00:33] <deftone> Anyone know where I can get a Linux/Vista wallpaper so I can make it into a grub menu background??
[00:33] <jrib> ugh
[00:34] <linkmaster03> qtf lol
[00:34] <jrib> compu73rg33k: try to watch your language here
[00:34] <linkmaster03> wtf*
[00:34] <qowao> hey SherlawkDragon1 ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/67623/
[00:34] <chad1> deftone:  you may want to look around at gnome-look.org
[00:34] <compu73rg33k> yeah I saw the warning sorry :)
[00:34] <Flare183> !wtf | linkmaster03
[00:34] <Iradieh> Does anyone know how to flush all torrents and reinstall them again?
[00:34] <Iradieh> Does anyone know how to flush all codecs* and reinstall them again?
[00:34] <mcquaid> i appreciate the offer, but i'd hate to get it working in OO, but then not at work
[00:34] <Flare183> !ot | Iradieh
[00:34] <scunizi> Xamusk, yes.. but... ubuntu's version might be a bit out of date.  You might also try to reinstall the printer using the ubuntu provided driver.. if you did an upgrade to ibex something might have gone wrong.
[00:34] <jrib> Iradieh: why would you want to do that?
[00:34] <deftone> i did and they have nothing worth downloading...lol
[00:34] <Flare183> mcquaid: oh ok
[00:34] <Flare183> !lol
[00:34] <mcquaid> still on 2 series in OO i'll try again in 3
[00:34] <Xamusk> scunizi, I always install fresh
[00:34] <Iradieh> jrib: My screen goes dark when watching movies.. as in BLACK.
[00:35] <luminosity> Little problem since I upgraded to Ibex: I need to hold down right alt now to type regular quotation marks. Makes coding ever so slightly annoying.
[00:35] <SirJoshua> I have a stupid question... How do I execute as root?
[00:35] <luminosity> Any ideas how to fix it?
[00:35] <Iradieh> jrib: I think it is codec related, I did install alot of weird stuff during following some guides
[00:35] <scunizi> Xamusk, good practice..
[00:35] <jrib> Iradieh: that's the issue you need to address, not reinstalling codecs
[00:35] <dlocutor> fresh intrepid install over failed upgrade .. still have trash but can delete
[00:35] <Xamusk> indeed
[00:35] <Flare183> SirJoshua: sudo (program name)
[00:35] <chad1> SirJoshua:  sudo
[00:35] <jrib> Iradieh: erm, what weird stuff?
[00:35] <SherlawkDragon1> qowao> I'm not a grub person, so I can't help you, but I would show that in #grub, or in here...
[00:35] <mcquaid> i read 3 is a lot better compatibility wise but then again they always say that
[00:35]  * Flare183 laughs
[00:35] <SherlawkDragon1> grr.... stupid LAN...
[00:35] <SirJoshua> thank you, chad1
[00:35] <Azhi_Dahaka> so... no ideas?
[00:36] <qowao> oh ok
[00:36] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[00:36] <mercutio22> some of the media keys in my laptop that used to work alright in Hardy Heron don't do anything in Intrepid Ibex... I wonder if I can fix that. Does anyone have a clue?
[00:36] <qowao> join #grub
[00:36] <Iradieh> jrib: the funny thing is, I dont know, I followed some guides to try mms media center, elisa and etc.. instaling all sorts of stuff
[00:36] <chad1> should i be afraid of this 2.6.27-7 kernel ?
[00:36] <Azhi_Dahaka> jrib, i have asked thrice
[00:37] <Flare183> mercutio22: Have you set them up on the Keyboard Shortcuts Dialog Box?
[00:37] <Flare183> chad1: no
[00:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> Two questions: 1) Pidgin crashes on Intrepid (install from ubuntu repos), I disabled every single plugin but still... how can I track the source of it?
[00:37] <Irishmanluke> For some reason I can only connect to my local CUPS server directly after I reboot and I need to know why
[00:37] <SherlawkDragon> did the people helping me forget me?
[00:37] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: "can anyone help me?" is not productive.  Just repeat your question so people can actually determine if they can help you
[00:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> 2) I added some repos and packages, I uninstalled them and erased the repos but still, I get the packages on the apt-ger Install autocomplete suggestions... tells me that a package is referencing the,
[00:37] <qowao> HELP
[00:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> m... how can i restart the apt-get database? apt-get clean didn't do anything
[00:37] <qowao> GRUB HELP
[00:37] <qowao> i pasted all what i did! http://paste.ubuntu.com/67623/
[00:37] <FloodBot1> qowao: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> don't call me spammer then...
[00:37] <Flare183> Azhi_Dahaka: open a terminal and type apt-get source pidgen
[00:37] <Flare183> pigden*
[00:38] <Flare183> oops
[00:38] <chad1> Flare183: pidgin .. lol
[00:38] <mercutio22> Flare183> no, but you realize these aren't keys on my keyboard right? Where do I find that?
[00:38] <D3RGPS31> How do I restore the default permissions of a directory and its files?
[00:38] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: your second question doesn't really make sense.  Pastebin actual commands and output
[00:38] <Area_51> !midi
[00:39] <Flare183> mercutio22: oh boy you can't
[00:39] <jrib> qowao: so what exactly happens now?
[00:39] <Flare183> mercutio22: You have to be able to press the buttons/keys to create the shortcuts
[00:39] <mercutio22> hmm =P
[00:40] <Conglomo> So when I expire a users' password with "passwd -e <username>" it makes the user no longer able to log in. It says their password is expired and says that they need to change it, and then closes the connection (ssh). Is there a way I can fix this? In the previous versions of Ubuntu (7.04) it would ask the user to enter a new password and everything would be fine.
[00:40] <smuikas> any idea how to get dual head working on an Intel GM965/GL960?
[00:40] <mercutio22> Flare183> I see...
[00:40] <qowao> jrib: i cant boot entyr 0 and 1 anymore! this is my ubuntu partition and the recovery one
[00:40] <qowao> jrib: but i think i did everything right
[00:40] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> I'm no GRUB guy, but shouldn't you have root(#,#) in your Linux part
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:40] <qowao> jrib: i see no epxlanation
[00:40] <sharperguy> Intrepid is just failing and I can't get anything to work properly, I never had any problems with upgrading before but now half of my shortcut keys down work, its much slower and loads of things are crashing
[00:40] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: i sure aint one eiter
[00:40] <qowao> not yet
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> !grub | qowao
[00:40] <phixxor> wow this channel is seeming pretty active today
[00:40] <SherlawkDragon> ?
[00:41] <Rob> hi
[00:41] <compu73rg33k> jrib, if my applet doesn't load is it because of openjdk or icedtea-plugin? or can one only know by testing sun-java6?
[00:41] <qowao> ActionParsnip: thatss not the issu ActionParsnip
[00:41] <jrib> qowao: "can't boot"? What exactly happens?
[00:41] <LF|Irssi_> sharperguy: sadly i have to agree
[00:41] <scunizi> phixxor, always happens after a new release
[00:41] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> I'm no GRUB guy, but shouldn't you have root(#,#) in your Linux part?
[00:41] <qowao> ActionParsnip: its rather like i installed ubuntu after windows and then wanted to tweak the grub menu a littel (before it worked)
[00:41] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: i dont know =[
[00:41] <jrib> compu73rg33k: check what your browser is using in "about:plugins"
[00:41] <phixxor> scunizi: lol yeah. I hope someone still hears my question though (about to ask)
[00:41] <SherlawkDragon> I think so....
[00:41] <qowao> jrib: it says ERROR 15 File not found!
[00:41] <compu73rg33k> the status bar said "loading..." for a while and now it says "Stopped" with the gray box
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> qowao: you should back up the file before playing
[00:41] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> where is that file?
[00:41] <smuikas> any idea how to get dual head working on an Intel GM965/GL960 on 8.04?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> qowao: so you have the orignal
[00:42] <qowao> ActionParsnip: will remember that
[00:42] <Flare183> !dualhead | smuikas
[00:42] <smuikas> TY
[00:42] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> qowao: do it with all conf files
[00:42] <Azhi_Dahaka> My question doesn't mak sense?... Ok, then...
[00:42] <qowao> ActionParsnip: ??
[00:42] <qowao> ActionParsnip: what do you mean
[00:42] <qowao> ActionParsnip: oh backup
[00:42] <chad1> qowao: never edit them without making a backup copy first
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> qowao: id run through the reconfigure grub to remake the file in !grub
[00:42] <qowao> thx ok guys
[00:42] <compu73rg33k> about:plugins says I'm using icedtea and that it's enabled
[00:42] <Rob> I re-installed Vista and it overwrote my bootloader. My Ubuntu install is still fine on the disk, how do I boot into my Ubuntu install to re-run grub?
[00:42] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> you probably DO
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> qowao: yeah, its a tiny file. a simple sudo cp will do
[00:42] <SherlawkDragon> I have it here
[00:42] <qowao> hey but what did i do wrong???
[00:43] <stickfu> hey. where is a good place to watch the elections online? Most sites I have tried didn't work in linux
[00:43] <qowao> youve seen the file
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> qowao: do you have a menu.lst~ file?
[00:43] <scunizi> !grub | Rob
[00:43] <qowao> yes ActionParsnip
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> title		Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> root		(hd0,1)
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=90d9431d-f7a6-4045-a699-a8010c2d4cb7 ro quiet splash acpi=force
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> quiet
[00:43] <FloodBot1> SherlawkDragon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <jrib> qowao: what are you on now?  a live cd?
[00:43] <Irishmanluke> Printing problems, can someone plz help?
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> Ouch!
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> Sorry!
[00:43] <phixxor> hey guys, there seems to be a problem with one of my hard disks. Starting up failed, saying "fsck died with exit status 5" and asks me to manually run fsck (without -a or -p options) but I've never run fsck before -- what should I do?
[00:43] <Rob> scunizi: thanks :)
[00:43] <qowao> jrib: exactly live cd
[00:43] <Azhi_Dahaka> I installed deluge using the ppa, uninstalled it because of some stability issues and removed the PPA from sources.list
[00:43] <LF|Irssi_> stickfu: maybe Ustream.tv
[00:43] <Flare183> !paste | SherlawkDragon
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> didn't know how long that was!
[00:43] <ubuntu__> how do i stop xchat joining here everytime i start it?
[00:43] <stickfu> LF|Irssi_: thanks, didn't think of that one
[00:43] <SherlawkDragon> ^!^;;;;
[00:43] <ubuntu_> anyone know where I can go for advice on installing ubuntu or solving ubuntu problems?
[00:44] <LF|Irssi_> yw
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> qowao: try copying the current file out to copy it then rename the ~ file to menu.lst
[00:44] <qowao> heh
[00:44] <Azhi_Dahaka> did a remove, autoremove, clean, autoclean and update - upgrade
[00:44] <ubuntu> iam spanisk
[00:44] <scunizi> ubuntu_, here
[00:44] <jrib> !enter | Azhi_Dahaka
[00:44] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: it seems that you need to fsck
[00:44] <qowao> ok ActionParsnip is this a backup file?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> qowao: keep track of versions with smart names if you want
[00:44] <qowao> ok i will
[00:44] <ubuntu_> heh, ok
[00:44] <D3RGPS31> How do I restore the default permissions of a directory and its files?
[00:44] <ubuntu> i need help with ubuntu
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> qowao: yeah text editors usually make them, you have learned to backup the hard way
[00:44] <genii> D3RGPS31: Your home directory?
[00:44] <jrib> ubuntu__: in network preferences for xchat, you should have an autojoin list
[00:44] <qowao> thx ActionParsnip
[00:44] <Flare183> !ask | ubuntu
[00:44] <qowao> will try that now
[00:45] <qowao> will look into it first
[00:45] <mrpockets> dude
[00:45] <chad1> !sp | ubuntu
[00:45] <Rob> stickfu: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/us_elections_2008/7697829.stm
[00:45] <D3RGPS31> genii: a directory with that had multiple permissions
[00:45] <chad1> !spanish
[00:45] <phixxor> Irishmanluke: well yes. I'm not familliar with the options though, I don't know what I need besides fsck and /dev/sda6
[00:45] <mrpockets> what the hell is the name for the taskbar for open applications called?
[00:45] <SherlawkDragon> so
[00:45] <nomad77> !es | ubuntu
[00:45] <Irishmanluke> man fsck?
[00:45] <genii> D3RGPS31: Then there is no going back in some automatic fashion
[00:45] <Maahes> http://rafb.net/p/7CIKCr17.html I'm having a problem with envyng, could someone analyse it for me?
[00:45] <SherlawkDragon> anyone know about my problem?
[00:45] <Flare183> !wtf | mrpockets
[00:46] <mrpockets> Flare183, sorry, any idea though?
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon> 'cause this is really bad, I can't keep going through the shutting down
[00:46] <ozatomic> i'm having errors with xmodmap while tring to start gnome?
[00:46] <jrib> ozatomic: what problem?
[00:46] <Flare183> mrpockets: Not really
[00:46]  * Flare183 has a problem
[00:46] <ozatomic> /usr/bin/xmodmap: unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' for reading
[00:46] <Flare183> Everytime someone pings me or says my name I get a loud and terrible noise from my speakers that sounds like static. How can I fix this?
[00:46] <phixxor> Irishmanluke: so just "fsck /dev/sda6"? or do I need to do something else?
[00:46] <Mixed_--_> anybody knows how to install a Java SDK?  what is the latest and greatest version?
[00:46] <ozatomic> /usr/.bin/xmodmap: 1 error encountered, abourting
[00:47] <qowao> ok will reboot now, back soon!
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Flare183: turn off stupid alert sounds
[00:47] <phixxor> irishmanluke: (by the way, I can only see the first page of the man, it won't scroll
[00:47] <Flare183> oh ok
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon> I've been having a very bad problem since I installed Ubuntu... My computer keeps freezing in a way that the keyboard input and most of the GUI stops working, so I have to go through my workspaces with my mouse and close everything manually, then hold the power button till it cuts off.  I may or may not be pressing some key, but I don't know why any key would do that
[00:47] <ozatomic> jrib: its been happaning ever sicne upgrading to 8.10
[00:47] <chad1> Flare183: is it your system speaker ?
[00:47] <jrib> ozatomic: me too, check bugs.ubuntu.com
[00:47] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: are you in screen/
[00:47] <Flare183> chad1: I don't think so
[00:47] <qowao> hey hold on
[00:47] <xavieran> ozatomic, for a quick fix execute: sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/apps/kxkb ; sudo touch /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap
[00:47] <chad1> Flare183: k
[00:47] <jrib> ozatomic: you can probably just ignore it
[00:47] <ozatomic> jrib: so u have not resolved it
[00:47] <qowao> why do you think it did not work??? i wanna change something after all
[00:47] <Azhi_Dahaka> I installed deluge using the ppa, uninstalled it because of some stability issues and removed the PPA from sources.list then did a remove, autoremove, clean, autoclean and update - upgrade and no trace of deluge... so far so good, however when installing I can't install my pugins as I get this message: http://pastebin.com/f6e57669a... I want to clean my apt-get from all those obsolete, missing or unavailable packages... Is that clear enough, jrib ???
[00:47] <qowao> what was the error
[00:47] <ozatomic> jrib: i can't it wont start gnome
[00:47] <qowao> what did i do wrong
[00:47] <Flare183> ActionParsnip: Its still doing it
[00:48] <xavieran> ozatomic, for a quick fix execute: sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/apps/kxkb ; sudo touch /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap
[00:48] <phixxor> irishmanluke: I have some kind of bash root prompt. It never got to the login screen (failed the fsck at bootup)
[00:48] <ozatomic> xavieran: thanks
[00:48] <jrib> ozatomic: I doubt that's the issue, as my gnome starts fine with that error, but feel free to try xavieran's suggestion
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Flare183: turn your mixer volume down and crank speakers up
[00:48] <phixxor> irishmanluke: I think it's bash
[00:48] <bigfatredguy> if I have a 64bit version of ubuntu, and I want a 32bit version, do I have to install a whole new OS, or can I do it as an upgrade?
[00:48] <scribawf> I experienced a failed update of ubuntu to intrepid need some guidance how I can save my "stuff" using booting with live ubuntu 8.04 distro
[00:48] <xavieran> I had that problem, and I just made the file, and gnome started up fine...
[00:48] <Maahes> anyone care to help me understand what might cause this envyng error? http://rafb.net/p/7CIKCr17.html
[00:48] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: what command did you run to get that output?
[00:48] <chad1> bigfatredguy: reinstall .. yes
[00:48] <jrib> bigfatredguy: reinstall
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> bigfatredguy: you can install 32bit libs
[00:48] <ultimate> sup?
[00:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent-plugins
[00:49] <qowao> what was my fault? maybe that i removed the devider line????
[00:49] <mattgyver83> #android
[00:49] <ultimate> interest
[00:49] <qowao> divider*
[00:49] <ozatomic> hmm nope still doesn't laod gnome :(
[00:49] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: What is the terminal emulator?
[00:49] <qowao> here is my paste again ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/67623/
[00:49] <phixxor> irishmanluke: how do I find out?
[00:49] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: what isn't clear about the error?  What do you feel is wrong?
[00:50] <ozatomic> i get .xsession-errors file still but doens't have the modmap error anymore
[00:50] <xavieran> O.k...
[00:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> as I said: I want to clean apt-get, so PLEASE... don't tell me to try other packages or to install Transmission
[00:50] <xavieran> ozatomic, what does the error say?
[00:50] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: if you are using the default for plain ubuntu then it is GNOME-term
[00:50] <meoblast001> i have a problem
[00:50] <SherlawkDragon> I've been having a very bad problem since I installed Ubuntu... My computer keeps freezing in a way that the keyboard input and most of the GUI stops working, so I have to go through my workspaces with my mouse and close everything manually, then hold the power button till it cuts off.  I may or may not be pressing some key, but I don't know why any key would do that
[00:50] <meoblast001> i woke up my computer
[00:50] <meoblast001> and now the screen is dim
[00:50] <ozatomic> the lasi'll pastebin 1min
[00:50] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: "clean apt-get" I have no idea what you mean by that.  Can you try to answer my question?
[00:50] <D8TA> What is the easiest way to get dual monitors to work? I have a Dell GX280 with onboard Intel 815G and an ATI PCI Radeon x1300. I cannot get both to work for the life of me. I am new to Ubuntu and used to use OpenSuse. Any helpful tips?
[00:50] <StevenX> I used the rm command on something I didn't want to delete. How can I recover it/
[00:50] <phixxor> Irishmanluke: my GDM session never started -- so I don't think it's using gnome
[00:51] <aduarte> When i work with a live CD my dual screen works with desktop effects, but when I install ubuntu on HD I just cant get it working, what can be wrong in installed version?
[00:51] <jrib> !recover | StevenX
[00:51] <Fiarpil> http://pbx.mine.nu/stolen.png
[00:51] <ozatomic> xavieran: http://pastebin.com/f73a00574
[00:51] <qowao> hey SherlawkDragon my file actually lacks this root line , you know why?? i did not make it but ubuntu
[00:51] <jrib> qowao: because you are using uuid
[00:51] <Azhi_Dahaka> SOMEHOW apt-get got ahold of those package names (namely old repos)... however, i want to wipe out every trace of the old packages that it had
[00:51] <jrib> !who | Azhi_Dahaka
[00:51] <qowao> jrib: do you see what i did wrong?
[00:52] <jrib> qowao: no
[00:52] <qowao> jrib: i think i did nothing wrong
[00:52] <qowao> damn
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> qowao: heres mine http://pastebin.com/f4b6dceab
[00:52] <Skry^> Azhi_Dahaka, remove repos you dont want, then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get clean..
[00:52] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: ... what old package names?
[00:52] <smuikas> screw it, looks like multihead isn't supported on single chipset for intel cards yet. back to windows. peace
[00:52] <Azhi_Dahaka> Have you read my question, Skry^ ?
[00:52] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: alright shift + pg up/ pg dwn should do it for scrolling I think
[00:52] <Azhi_Dahaka> I installed deluge using the ppa, uninstalled it because of some stability issues and removed the PPA from sources.list then did a remove, autoremove, clean, autoclean and update - upgrade and no trace of deluge... so far so good, however when installing I can't install my pugins as I get this message: http://pastebin.com/f6e57669a... I want to clean my apt-get from all those obsolete, missing or unavailable packages... just fur you Skry^
[00:53] <xavieran> ozatomic, try: sudo touch /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40guidance-displayconfig_restore
[00:53] <Iradieh> How do you get writing permissions to hfs, I am going to reinstall this since no one helps
[00:53] <xavieran> ozatomic, If that doesn't work, try the ubuntu forums...
[00:53] <phixxor> irishmanluke: no, because man isn't being scrollable, it gives me the first page and then exits to prompt
[00:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> deluge-torrent-gtk, deluge-torrent-plugins and I bet that a lot more that should be laying around on apt-get's database
[00:53] <phixxor> everyone: how do I use fsck?
[00:53] <scunizi> !fsck | phixxor
[00:54] <D8TA> smuikas I am using two different video sources. Onboard and PCI. It worked in OpenSuse
[00:54] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: none of those are in your error except the one you asked apt-get to explicitly install
[00:54] <Azhi_Dahaka> ...
[00:54] <qowao> why two different kernels ActionParsnip ?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: i use ktorrent myself so am no help, sorry
[00:54] <MindVirus> Anyone know the FreeNX server package?
[00:54] <qowao> on the same partition
[00:54] <Azhi_Dahaka> The issue is NOT with Deluge, but with apt-get
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> qowao: i always keep the latest and the one before
[00:54] <StevenX> does anyone know how to use par2repair recursively?
[00:54] <MindVirus> Anyone?
[00:54] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: please address the person you are speaking with.  Otherwise it's confusing
[00:55] <tony403> i have a 1ghz pc for my kids. streaming shows from media center is slightly choppy. does anyone know if Ubuntu would have better performance?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> qowao: single OS on 1 x PATA hdd
[00:55] <mneptok> Azhi_Dahaka: the message means exactly hwat it says. there is no deluge-torrent-plugins package in Hardy or Intrepid.
[00:55] <phixxor> scunizi: thanks, I'll try that
[00:55] <Azhi_Dahaka> I WANT to remove all those obsolete, missing or unreachable packages as the error says.
[00:55] <Skry^> Azhi_Dahaka, just sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent deluge-torrent-common
[00:55] <qowao> ok ActionParsnip
[00:55] <SherlawkDragon> I've been having a very bad problem since I installed Ubuntu... My computer keeps freezing in a way that the keyboard input and most of the GUI stops working, so I have to go through my workspaces with my mouse and close everything manually, then hold the power button till it cuts off.  I may or may not be pressing some key, but I don't know why any key would do that
[00:55] <qowao> hey why does mine not work
[00:55] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: have you read anything I've written?
[00:56] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: I do not know why you cannot scroll a man page with just pg up/pg dwn keys of course I am a n00b myself
[00:56] <Azhi_Dahaka> Yes I have, jrib ... seems like you haven't though
[00:56] <Azhi_Dahaka> mneptok, I KNOW... That's why I want them OUT of my apt-get database
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: you got all latest updates?
[00:56] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: know that freezing, you have na amd64?
[00:57] <Irishmanluke> apt-get me a sandwich
[00:57] <luddite> hi guys
[00:57] <Azhi_Dahaka> The deluge-torrent package it's just an EXAMPLE of the issue, Skry^
[00:57] <qowao> SherlawkDragon: yesterday somebody mentioned the same on an amd64 too. not even holding my power button shut it down had to remove the power supply
[00:57] <Irishmanluke> Alright so my printing troubles, did anyone see what I wrote?
[00:57] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: there is no issue.
[00:58] <JoseBravo> I migrate my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, now Im trying to configure my printer (System->Administration->Printers) but I dont see the option to create LPD/LPR Host or Printer, any idea?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> SherlawkDragon: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> There is no issue? So, apt-get should suggest me a lot of obsolete, unavailable and missing packages jrib?
[00:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> if it does, seems like something is REALLY wrong with it, jrib
[00:58] <Bitmess> how can I use metacity instead of emerald and still use compiz?
[00:58] <mneptok> Azhi_Dahaka: if the package does not exist in the repos, how do you expect apt-get to remove it? you *removed the repo from sources.list where that package lives*
[00:59] <bobbob1016> How can I get either Rhythmbox or Amarok to auto-sync songs?  Instead of having to be told?  I'm switching a friend, and I just want to get it as close to itunes as I can.
[00:59] <luddite> i have a swap file issue. i have created the swap at /dev/sda1. added it to ftab(using /dev/sda1 insteead of the UUID which didnt work) and wheni try to hibernate it says 'no swap device try swapon -a which i have done.  i need to hibernate - any hel?
[00:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> mneptok, I want it remove from the APT-GET DATABASE
[00:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> not my computer, the APT-GET DATABASE
[00:59]  * jrib goes do something productive
[00:59] <mneptok> Azhi_Dahaka: you can't do that if the originating repo is not in sources.list
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> bobbob1016: they are good at it
[01:00] <mneptok> Azhi_Dahaka: and any time you'd like to stop screaming at me while i try to help you would be fine.
[01:00] <solexious> After upgrading to 8.10 i have 2 of each network adapter showing up when i click the network icon and it wont let me select wireless when i click on it
[01:00] <morph3us> hi.. i am trying to install the new ubuntu but i am getting this error.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jr/3003476569/   any clue?
[01:00] <Azhi_Dahaka> I already did clean, autoclean, autoremove and all that jazz... and still, apt-get keeps suggesting old packages (from removed repos) that it should NOT be on the database nor suggested
[01:01] <mneptok> Azhi_Dahaka: apt-get update
[01:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> ...
[01:01] <Skry^> Azhi_Dahaka, and why do you want it out of database? does it conflict something? If not suggest you just let it be.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> morph3us: did you md5 check the cd?
[01:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> Did you read my wuestion?
[01:01] <bobbob1016> ActionParsnip, What do you mean?  Neither of them automatically synced songs, I had to drag them in Rhythmbox, or Right-Click -> Transfer to media device, then click Transfer in amarok
[01:01] <ronny> yo
[01:01] <JoseBravo> I migrate my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, now Im trying to configure my printer (System->Administration->Printers) but I dont see the option to create LPD/LPR Host or Printer, any idea?
[01:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> I already did ALL that, mneptok
[01:01] <morph3us> ActionParsnip, how can i do that?
[01:01] <ronny> anyone knwos where kdiff3 went ?!
[01:01] <solexious> After upgrading to 8.10 i have 2 of each network adapter showing up when i click the network icon and it wont let me select wireless when i right click on the icon
[01:01] <ronny> i cant install it via apt any more
[01:01] <Terj> whoa, hey everyone
[01:01] <aduarte> (INTEL915) When i work with a live CD my dual screen works with desktop effects, but when I install ubuntu on HD I just cant get it working, what can be wrong in installed version?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | morph3us
[01:01] <Irishmanluke> so after upgrading to 8.10 suddenly my printers only work directly after rebooting.  After that I cannot connect to the local CUPS server.  Does anyone know why this could be? The error I get in the printer GUI is httpConnectionEncrypt failed.
[01:01] <IRCcop> wich one is better gnome, debian or ubuntu?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> morph3us: i bet you have a bad disk
[01:01] <SherlawkDragon> qowao> I have an AMD64
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you cant compare gnome to the other 2
[01:02] <IRCcop> why
[01:02] <SherlawkDragon> ActionParsnip> I have the latest updates
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: and there is no "better" or "best"
[01:02] <Defib> I have a quick question about x86 and x64!
[01:02] <morph3us> ActionParsnip, i have burned 2 different CD's from 2 different isos, downloaded from different servers
[01:02] <SherlawkDragon> but even still: that's not it
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: gnome is a desktop environment which you can run in debian or ubuntu
[01:02] <tritium> IRCcop: debian and ubuntu are distros (ubuntu being based on debian), while gnome is a desktop environment
[01:02] <SherlawkDragon> I've had it since installation
[01:02] <phixxor> so guys, if i'm running fsck manually (like from the live cd) can I just do "fsck /dev/sda6"
[01:03] <Azhi_Dahaka> Skry^, as I said: This is an EXAMPLE, I don't want outdated , missing or unavailable packages on the database, as I'm pretty sure that given the sheer amout of repos that I added back in the day there should be A LOT of packages with that same issue
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> morph3us: doesnt matter, use the md5 sum on the same server to check the iso you burned and then use the program on the cd to check the cd for defects
[01:03] <genii> phixxor: Yes, thats the syntax
[01:03] <Defib> I want to dual boot x64 and x86 on the same HDD, would they be able to use each other's files? Like music and the like.
[01:03] <Azhi_Dahaka> so Let It Be... that's kind of a non-solution...
[01:03] <phixxor> genii: NICE! alright, here goes
[01:03] <D8TA> aduarte - I haven't tried the live CD but will check that out. Weird if dual monitors work with Live CD and not when you install it. I am just trying to get dual 19" LCD monitors to work.
[01:03] <morph3us> ActionParsnip, i will do that, thank u :)
[01:04] <IRCcop> Ok so no matter what os I download I will still have problems with wireless right
[01:04] <IRCcop> as long as is a linux os
[01:04] <Irishmanluke> It seems that I have been /ignored by the ENTIRE channel
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: there is no "best" or "better" in any software situation as every single users requirements are individual so no single application can satisfy ALL user needs
[01:04] <Skry^> Azhi_Dahaka, if there's no real problem, a non-solution should be enough :)
[01:04] <Defib> me too
[01:04] <tritium> !patience | IRCcop
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: no necessarily
[01:04] <RickZilla> Weird:  I can see this site on my Windows machine but not my ubuntu machine...can somebody check it out on ubuntu and confirm?  http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/using-your-linux-computer-as-a-media-center-part-1/
[01:04] <tritium> IRCcop: sorry, that was intended for Irishmanluke
[01:04] <SherlawkDragon> IRCcop> maybe
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you could try mandriva or some other rpm based linux distro
[01:05] <SherlawkDragon> IRCcop> if you can't find a driver for something, you can't use it
[01:05] <Defib> I want to dual boot x64 and x86 on the same HDD, would they be able to use each other's files? Like music and the like.
[01:05] <phixxor> irishmanluke: when it's this busy expect to have to repeat yourself kind of often (but not so much that's annoying) I am just a user myself but I'll pay attention
[01:05] <IRCcop> would that solve my wireless problem
[01:05] <MindVirus> Anyone know the FreeNX server package?
[01:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> There's a REAL problem: apt-get suggest me packages that are obsolete
[01:05] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: rpm won't magically add kernel drivers :)
[01:05] <IRCcop> cuz I tried everything in ubuntu
[01:05] <SherlawkDragon> I have an Ubuntu computer with a Linksys card
[01:05] <IRCcop> but no succcess
[01:05] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:05] <ronny> anyone: WHY THE HECK IS KDIFF3 gone from the package repos ?!?!?!
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: or you could try bsd based systems and ditch linux all together
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: pcbsd is pretty decent
[01:05] <SherlawkDragon> there's a driver for it
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: if you have a wifi card with poor linux support, use ndiswrapper with the windows driver
[01:06] <Defib> I want to dual boot x64 and x86 on the same HDD, would they be able to use each other's files? Like music and the like.
[01:06] <phixxor> um guys, when I updated to intrepid, networkmanager stopped detecting my atheros wireless card. Is this a known issue? What should I do?
[01:06] <Irishmanluke> yeah sorry I have a bit of a short temper.  ANYway, can someone help me with my printing issues
[01:06] <RickZilla> Weird:  I can see this site on my Windows machine but not my ubuntu machine...can somebody check it out on ubuntu and confirm?  http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/using-your-linux-computer-as-a-media-center-part-1/
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> ronny: sudo apt-get install kdiff3
[01:06] <IRCcop> i tried that too
[01:07] <tritium> phixxor: there are some issues with atheros, but they work in general.  Read the release notes.  (It appears you did not.)
[01:07] <Skry^> Azhi_Dahaka, oh, so you mean you're installing ie. deluge-torrent, and it wants to install deluge-torrent-plugins even though it shouldnt?
[01:07] <IRCcop> but it wil ask me for the .inf file
[01:07] <Defib> RickZilla I can see the site from Ubu
[01:07] <Azhi_Dahaka> ...
[01:07] <IRCcop> but I have the exe
[01:07] <rever> Hi I am running Ubuntu 8.10 and everything is great my question is I have an X-Fi sound card. How hard is it to install and set up OSS
[01:07] <dug__> In nautilus is there a shortcut to rename a file, like a key you can hold down while clicking the name, or a key combo when it is highlighted
[01:07] <Fiarpil> http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg
[01:07] <Maahes> hey, I forgot, what's the official method of updating again, I can just use update-manager right?
[01:07] <Defib> I want to dual boot x64 and x86 on the same HDD, would they be able to use each other's files? Like music and the like.
[01:07] <Maahes> e.g., going from 8.04 to 8.10
[01:07] <rever> Also any word when ALSA will finally get a driver?
[01:07] <phixxor> tritium: I may have glanced over them.... lol thanks :)
[01:07] <RickZilla> Weird;  Now I can't see it on my Windows machine
[01:07] <IRCcop> then when I extract the exe to get the inf file , does no work
[01:07] <phixxor> irishmanluke: what specifically is your prob
[01:07] <Azhi_Dahaka> seems like this is useless
[01:07] <RickZilla> That site was hacked a few days ago, but they got it back again...wonder if that has anything to do with it
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: try http://216.92.56.91/tag/using-your-linux-computer-as-a-media-center-part-1/
[01:08] <dug__> oh, it's f2
[01:08] <Azhi_Dahaka> Seems like it's time to go back to FreeBSD and ports
[01:08] <Iradieh> How can I make my external disk into ext3 fast?
[01:08] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you can extract it with unzip
[01:08] <Azhi_Dahaka> thanks for nothing
[01:08] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: It seems that I can only connect to the local CUPS server directly after booting up
[01:08] <qowao> ok hey im back this shit did not work!! hey what is this i did not do anything to the file but its a file that ubunut created!!! why does this not work???
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: put my name at the start of the text you type to me, makes my life sooo much easier
[01:08] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  That doesn't do it either
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: sudo apt-get install traceroute
[01:08] <Defib> I want to dual boot x64 and x86 on the same HDD, would they be able to use each other's files? Like music and the like.
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: then traceroute to the domain name
[01:09] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  What will that do?
[01:09] <solexious> qowao, Please mind the language
[01:09] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  will mandriva be better for me?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: see if the site is reachable by your provider
[01:09] <phixxor> irishmanluke: I have no idea how to use cups or set up printing, but then what happens? It connects after booting up, but then won't connect?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: theres no black and white answer for that, its still linux so id say maybe not
[01:09] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: yes pretty much
[01:10] <deftone> anyone know how to use gfxboot??
[01:10] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  That site was hacked a few days ago, but they got it back again...I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
[01:10] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:10] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  I love ubuntu but there is kind of issues that really discourage ppl
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: sudo apt-get install cabextract
[01:11] <solexious> After upgrading to 8.10 i have 2 of each network adapter showing up when i click the network icon and it wont let me select wireless when i right click on the icon
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: then use: cabextract -d <exe file>
[01:11] <qowao> solexious: what did i do wrong
[01:11] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  what's that for
[01:11] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Returned no results
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: that will allow you to extract the files from the exe you have
[01:11] <phixxor> irishmanluke: dude that sucks! The only thing I can think of is reinstall cups and start from scratch. But maybe someone else knows more than I do
[01:11] <solexious> qowao, Please don't swear :)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: what command did you use?
[01:12] <RickZilla> No command...just entered in the site for it to search
[01:12] <RickZilla> Using the tracker search tool
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: try a traceroute to the name and then the ip
[01:12] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  I don't know how to do that
[01:12] <tritium> qowao: you've warned before about !language
[01:12] <phixxor> tritium: I know my card has used madwifi in the past, so do I have to manually enable that somehow? (I'm not understanding why it's not working, based just on the release notes) sorry for being trouble
[01:12] <Xamusk> scunizi, I have found an old backup PPD file but using it through the web interface didn't fix the problem... I don't even know if the ppd is configured correctly, since I can't find an entry in the /etc/cups configuration files
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: sudo apt-get install traceroute; clear; traceroute 216.92.56.91
[01:13] <tritium> phixxor: no, it should be auto-detected.  Which card?
[01:13] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | carltonsmith
[01:13] <RickZilla> I installed the traceroute
[01:13] <qowao> solexious: no i mean in the menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/67623/
[01:13] <phixxor> tritium, just a sec, let me find it..
[01:13] <RickZilla> Where do I do the clear?
[01:13] <carltonsmith> k, thanks
[01:13] <carltonsmith> I've found a few sites but nothing has worked
[01:13] <carltonsmith> I'll try that one
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: im giving you the whole command, paste that line in terminal
[01:14] <tritium> phixxor: if you need the ath5k driver, then you many need to enable it.  See http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[01:14] <RickZilla> actionParsnip:  Ah...one at a time, or all at once?
[01:14] <tom_> heya
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: that will install traceroute then run the trace
[01:14] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  this ndiswrapper how do I get it?
[01:14] <Irishmanluke> phixxor: I actually did reinstall cupsys but no cigar
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: all at once, otherwise i'd give them on different lines
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | IRCcop
[01:15] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, I'll try that...and thanks for your patience with an ubuntu newb :-)
[01:15] <Bitmess> I want to use metacity with compiz instead of emerald. When I do metacity --replace, It disables compiz.  How can I fix this?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you'll ned a wired connection til yuo get on yuor feeet or use the stuff on your install cd
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: theres worse
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: you need to see whats what with yuor connection
[01:15] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  can i tested with the live cd
[01:15] <mattgyver83> Im using v.8.10 but in my sources list i still have repos enabled for edgy, is it safe for me to remove these?
[01:15] <phixxor> tritium: Netgear WG311T, a few years old, it was autodetected with gutsy and hardy
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: and where the comms breakdown is
[01:16] <jrib> Bitmess: metacity and compiz are both window managers.  You can't use both at the same time.  Emerald is a decorator.  You probably just want to use compiz-decorator
[01:16] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, it's going right now
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: sure, you can install apps from the live cd
[01:16] <tritium> phixxor: which module does it use?
[01:16] <phixxor> tritium: pretty sure it uses madwifi
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you will still need that file you have extracted
[01:16] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Should I copy-paste the results into here?
[01:16] <tritium> phixxor: ath_pci?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: into a pastebin
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> !paste | RickZilla
[01:16] <Bitmess> jrib: How do I do this
[01:16] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  whar do u mean
[01:16] <n8tuser> yey OpenSpaces spectrum (gap between tv channels) for wifi users has been approved by FCC
[01:17] <Bitmess> jrib: How do I do this?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you can setup a live cd system like an installed system but you use ram as hard drive space
[01:17] <jrib> Bitmess: is there a reason you don't just use "Normal" in System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects?
[01:17] <mrpockets> hey guys
[01:17] <phixxor> tritium: Is that the module name? I don't know. it is an atheros card and it is pci though
[01:17] <mrpockets> I'm looking for the app that you can add to a pannel that is similar to Windows taskbar?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: so you can install ndiswrapper in live cd, then give the system the .inf and .sys files for your wifi
[01:17] <tritium> phixxor: yes.  Is it loaded?
[01:17] <mrpockets> containing icons representing all the open applications?
[01:17] <Bitmess> jrib: I can try that.
[01:17] <phixxor> tritium: how do I check?
[01:17] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67647/
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: if you use wpa you will need the wpa supplicant
[01:18] <tritium> phixxor: lsmod | grep ath
[01:18] <solexious> After upgrading to 8.10 i have 2 of each network adapter showing up when i click the network icon and it wont let me select wireless when i right click on the icon
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: ok, its not getting past your router from that reading, id reboot your router
[01:18] <n8tuser> mrpockets-> look around gnome.. type gnome and tab twice
[01:18] <carltonsmith> ActionPars: Thanks for the link on NVIDIA drivers. My Hardware Drivers screen comes up blank. It did that in Heron too. However, with Heron, I downloaded the drivers from NVIDIA, ran the install and it worked. Now, with Intrepid it won't. It crashes out looking for the linux-source - and I can't get linux-source to install
[01:18] <skky> so i have a bit of an emergency
[01:18] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, I'll do all of that right now
[01:19] <phixxor> tritium: kk. I'm turning the computer on, it'll be a minute or two
[01:19] <Bitmess> jrib: It puts emerald decorations on.
[01:19] <n8tuser> solexious-> try sudo ifdown wlan0
[01:19] <skky> i was in tasksel trying to install lamp-server and apparently i unchecked "ubuntu desktop" and now i can't get into GUI anymore, when i boot up it fails and goes to CLI
[01:19] <mrpockets> n8thyoung,
[01:19] <mrpockets> no
[01:19] <skky> now im in the live cd
[01:19] <mrpockets> not the Menu for AVAILABLE apps
[01:19] <n8tuser> solexious-> then try sudo ifup wlan0
[01:19] <mrpockets> the tray that holds OPEN apps
[01:19] <qowao> hey how would i create an md5 hash for some input
[01:19] <mrpockets> and i'm using 8.04
[01:20] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  does it matter if I install 32 or 64bit
[01:20] <phixxor> skky: from cli you might be able to apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <jrib> Bitmess: well you can use ccsm to set your decorator to compiz-decorator and then use "custom effects".  I'm not sure how you change the decorator that "Normal" uses then
[01:20] <genii> qowao: Like result of some operation in bash?
[01:20] <skky> It says apt-get fails when I try to do that
[01:20] <mrpockets> Notification area
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: if your cpu is 64bit you can run either
[01:20] <mrpockets> is what i was looking for
[01:20] <qowao> genii: yeah
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: if its a desktop for plugins id run 32bit
[01:20] <Out_Cold> umm what program can i use to sync on an ipod?
[01:20] <skky> phixxor: if that doesn't work are there any other options?
[01:20] <qowao> genii: something like "md5 foo"
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | Out_Cold
[01:20] <phixxor> skky: whoa, idk then..
[01:21] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  laptop supports 64bit
[01:21] <Bitmess> jrib: ok, thank you
[01:21] <georgy_28> skky, : sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core will install gui
[01:21] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  amd
[01:21] <Out_Cold> !rockbox
[01:21] <genii> qowao: md5sum foo      operates on a file
[01:21] <n8tuser> sKy\-> sudo tasksel install ubuntu-desktop    its about a 1.7 gig download
[01:21] <carltonsmith> ActionPars: Thanks for the link on NVIDIA drivers. My Hardware Drivers screen comes up blank. It did that in Heron too. However, with Heron, I downloaded the drivers from NVIDIA, ran the install and it worked. Now, with Intrepid it won't. It crashes out looking for the linux-source - and I can't get linux-source to install
[01:21] <qowao> genii: thx! echo foo | md5sum should workthen should it?
[01:21] <stage3> qowao, md5sum filename
[01:21] <genii> qowao: <something here with output to stdout> | md5sum -            likely
[01:22] <qowao> yeah genii
[01:22] <genii> qowao: as stage3 wrote for a file
[01:22] <phixxor> tritium: lsmod | grep ath returns nothing
[01:22] <qowao> echo foo | md5sum
[01:22] <qowao> workdeD!
[01:22] <cloud-ieee1> I had an interruption during Ubuntu 8.10 upgrade. I keep getting this error in the recovery console "package was interrupted  you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem". Can anyone help??
[01:22] <qowao> thx stage3
[01:22] <speedcore> is standard install of ubuntu safe, when run with NO what so ever firewall connected straight to the internets?
[01:22] <jaypur> my ubuntu login sound is not working... im on 8.10...
[01:23] <tritium> phixxor: then it's not loaded
[01:23] <n8tuser> speedcore-> only means no iptables rules
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee1: sounds like your internet is falkey. id reboot your router and system after the system has tried to update and you have run the suggested command
[01:23] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  I will try to install ubuntu once more shold I pick guided installation or Manual?
[01:23] <KillerOrca> decision '08
[01:23] <tritium> KillerOrca: offtopic
[01:23] <phixxor> tritium: does that mean I do "sudo modprobe ath_pci" ?
[01:23] <speedcore> n8tuser: is iptables ON in the standard install?
[01:24] <KillerOrca> true true,
[01:24] <tritium> phixxor: if you're certain that's what you need.
[01:24] <n8tuser> speedcore-> yes
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: if you have no OS installed go for guided, if you have an OS isntalld you'll need to resize partitions and junk
[01:24] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  I always do manual to pick the size of the swap area
[01:24] <cloud-ieee1> Action, is there a command in terminal I can run to rebuild dpkg?
[01:24] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the link on NVIDIA drivers. My Hardware Drivers screen comes up blank. It did that in Heron too. However, with Heron, I downloaded the drivers from NVIDIA, ran the install and it worked. Now, with Intrepid it won't. It crashes out looking for the linux-source - and I can't get linux-source to install
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: your call
[01:24] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  I tried restarting modem + router, waited 1 minute, then restarted...that site still won't show up
[01:25] <Terj> I just installed a program off of the internet, and it doesn't come up in applications? why?
[01:25] <kamekun> hi, i cant read a ntfs partition,  in my fstab i have ntfs-3g defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46   0   1  what can i do>
[01:25] <kamekun> ?
[01:25] <speedcore> n8tuser: so no servers are visible from a standard install?
[01:25] <cloud-ieee1> Action, I think that from the upgrade interrupt that app become corrupted somehow.
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: any good from traceroute again?
[01:25] <phixxor> tritium: I'm not certain. Are there instructions somewhere for installing things that should be autodetected?
[01:25] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  what is the recommended  size of the swap area
[01:25] <RickZilla> Let me try
[01:25] <jrib> kamekun: that should not be a 1 at the end
[01:25] <n8tuser> speedcore-> servers you serve or remote server?
[01:25] <tritium> phixxor: if you want to try, "sudo modprobe ath_pci".
[01:25] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  I don't suppose you can paste that code again?
[01:26] <jrib> kamekun: erm, maybe I'm wrong, never mind
[01:26] <cloud-ieee1> IRC, 2-3x the size of your RAM
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: what does: nslookup www.makeuseof.com show
[01:26] <speedcore> n8tuser: I mean is there alot of "servers" running on the machine with the default install?
[01:26] <tritium> phixxor: it would be useful to know which atheros chipset you have.  Does lspci -v tell you anything?
[01:26] <redvamp128> IS the drop off to text during boot up-- where it drops the splash screen but successfull (ok's)
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: tracerote www.makeuseof.com
[01:26] <redvamp128> is that normal and nothing to worry about
[01:26] <jrib> kamekun: no wait, it definitely should not be a 1.  Despite the fact the line in my fstab generated by ntfs-config also has a 1...
[01:26] <phixxor> tritium: FATAL: module ath_pci not found
[01:26] <phixxor> looking in synaptic
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee1: if its for web browsing and chat and you have 1gb ram its not needed
[01:26] <speedcore> n8tuser: the strange thing is. I've installed many servers in safe LANs and never needed to open a port. Which to mean seems there is NO firewall by default?
[01:27] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:27] <phixxor> tritium: synaptic doesn't return anything
[01:27] <Spaz926> Hello, all!
[01:27] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:   *** Can't find www.makeuseof.com: No answer
[01:27] <n8tuser> speedcore-> not that i know of, there are lots of services running, but not many to serve a remote host
[01:27] <kamekun> jrib, i change to 0, but is the same; i can see the files but without modify
[01:27] <jrib> kamekun: what does 'id' return?
[01:27] <thefool> opening Documents folder via Places menu is opening rhythmbox, this started with my upgrade to intrepid. Anyone know what is causing this?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: what is the address of your dns?
[01:27] <Spaz926> Blender is not running
[01:27] <solexious> [Q] After upgrading to 8.10 I cant right click on the networkmanager applet in the task bar and enable wireless, but my wireless cards showup fine but greyed out if i left click. Any ideas?
[01:27] <speedcore> n8tuser: But that means..iptables isn't configured in a safe way with the standard install?
[01:27] <qowao> hey can i do sudo update-grup anytime?
[01:27] <qowao> or is it dangerous
[01:27] <deeperror> is there any way to return 8.10 back to base configuration without reinstall?
[01:28] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  192.168.1.1
[01:28] <cloud-ieee1> Action, is there a command you recommend that will let me try to continue with my distro upgrade or that would let me fix the (dpkg package was interrupted  you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem) error message in recovery console???
[01:28] <KillerOrca> solexious: need to unlock it
[01:28] <n8tuser> speedcore-> its installed with no rules, default policy is accept
[01:28] <ryanakca> Where could I find a package containing the wireless kernel module(s) that support packet injecting? Intrepid, bcm4306
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: is that what nslookup says?
[01:28] <n8tuser> speedcore-> unless you enabled SELINUX
[01:28] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  I assume you mean the one that showed up in that terminal
[01:28] <qowao> hey is it ok to do sudo update-grup? since ubuntu somehow mixed UUIDs in my /boot/grup/menu.lst and UUIDs dont work
[01:28] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:28] <solexious> KillerOrca, Thank you, how can I do that?
[01:29] <speedcore> n8tuser: ok, selinux , what is that?
[01:29] <cloud-ieee1> Actoin, I ran this command dpkg --configure -a --abort-after=99999 and it worked for a little bit then stopped and give me the same error message.
[01:29] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Let me do a paste for that terminal output
[01:29] <n8tuser> qowao-> you messed around the boot priority on your bios?
[01:29] <qowao> n8tuser: nah i didnt
[01:29] <supertanker> What's the latest version of Gimp in the repos? I have 2.4.5 and yet it says it's the most recent version.
[01:29] <phixxor> !wifi
[01:29] <n8tuser> speedcore-> secure linux
[01:29] <Spaz926> Hey guys, my Blender is not running!
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> !info gimp
[01:29] <Spaz926> Please help.
[01:29] <jrib> supertanker: what version of ubuntu?
[01:29] <KillerOrca> solexious: Usually there is a button on the network window that pops up that says unlock, then it asks for your password to login
[01:29] <speedcore> n8t, ok how do you enable that?
[01:29] <supertanker> jrib: 8.0.4.1
[01:29] <qowao> n8tuser: those fing UUIDs dont work i suspect
[01:29] <carltonsmith> hey, can anybody help with my NVIDIA card that went bad with the intrepid upgrade?
[01:29] <jrib> !info gimp hardy
[01:29] <jrib> supertanker: that's right
[01:29] <speedcore> n8tuser: ok who do you enable SE linux?
[01:29] <qowao> n8tuser: cause the win partition is given as hd0(blah and the ubunut one as UUID=foo
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> carltonsmith: what nvidia card do you have? have you tried envyng-gtk?
[01:30] <n8tuser> qowao-> they work, its a matter of which priority your kernel detects them
[01:30] <IRCcop> !info madwifi
[01:30] <supertanker> jrib: any way to get the newest version? I'm on dialup; I can't download all these updates
[01:30] <ditch64> i have a problem with GRUB, it goes to "loading stage 1.5." and then i get an error 21
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> !info madwifi-tools
[01:30] <carltonsmith> IActionParsnip: I have the 8400 GeForce GS
[01:30] <stage3> carltonsmith, the nvidia driver don't work in Intrepid yet. Look at the release notes
[01:30] <qowao> n8tuser: hm i did not change anything there actually this really scusk hold on imma get you the paste
[01:30] <JC_Denton_> Anyone aware of ProjectCenter being broken in ubuntu?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> stage3: mines ok with envyng
[01:30] <n8tuser> speedcore-> i dont know off hand, you hve to google for how to activate SELINUX
[01:30] <qowao> n8tuser: look thats what i did http://paste.ubuntu.com/67623/
[01:30] <qowao> n8tuser: i did nothing wron
[01:31] <qowao> wrong*
[01:31] <legend2440> thefool: right click a folder choose properties>open with is rhythmbox selected? if so the change to Open Folder
[01:31] <jrib> supertanker: I don't know of a "nice" way (throught ubuntu repositories)
[01:31] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67651/
[01:31] <solexious> KillerOrca, Not that I can see...
[01:31] <stage3> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:31] <Spaz926> What are the other Ubuntu chats?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> stage3: GeForce 6150 onboard here
[01:31] <thefool> there is no open with menu on folders...
[01:31] <phixxor> tritium: when I do lspci -v, it says my card is "capabilities: access denied"
[01:31] <jrib> !irc > Spaz926
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: can i have a pastebin of /etc/resolv.conf
[01:31] <KillerOrca> solexious: but you can see the network and it is greyed out?
[01:31] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: I haven't tried that package yet
[01:31] <thefool> ignore that
[01:32] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a shot
[01:32] <RickZilla> open it up in a text editor?
[01:32] <solexious> KillerOrca, Yes, and only wireless, wired is fine
[01:32] <tritium> phixxor: does it list the Atheros Chipset (e.g., AR5212)
[01:32] <ryanakca> cafuego: Mind if I /query ?
[01:32] <Spaz926> jrib, ubottu: Thanks
[01:32] <BarnseyC> Hello, I have a strange audio problem on my Dell Studio 17 with Intrepid, can anyone here here help
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> carltonsmith: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk; gksudo envyng-gtk
[01:32] <eternicode> I'm using Kubuntu Hardy.  After my last system reboot (after a noneventful dist-upgrade), all I get in konsole and yakuake are limited bash shells.  No tab-completion, no history browsing, no "fancy" prompt.  As far as I can tell, my .bashrc isn't being loaded, and when I try to load it from a shell using ". ~/.bashrc", I get a "shopt: not found" error.  Any ideas?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> !sound | BarnseyC
[01:32] <n8tuser> qowao-> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm  look for error 17 to see if its related to your issues
[01:32] <phixxor> tritium: yes, it is AR5001+ (rev 1)
[01:33] <thefool> but no rhythmbox is not selected for opening any of my folders
[01:33] <KillerOrca> solexious: well that button should be there, since when you login by default you aren't a real admin
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> eternicode: what happens if you try: source ~/.bashrc
[01:33] <tritium> phixxor: ok, let me see.  In the meantime, please read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[01:33] <KillerOrca> solexious: did you try launching it from a terminal with gksudo?
[01:33] <eternicode> ActionParsnip: "/bin/sh: source not found"
[01:33] <qowao> k n8tuser will do that
[01:33] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: Installing now. I'll restart X when it's done and let you know
[01:33] <sevenseeker1> I am trying to reconfigure my xorg.conf to make use of the new goodies like the hal support and shm config.  However, using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is resulting in a very broken and incomplete xorg.conf file
[01:33] <eternicode> rather "source: not found"
[01:33] <phixxor> tritium: which is kind of weird because on the ubuntu wiki it says wg311t should be Atheros 5212
[01:33] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  There's not any files like that in etc/
[01:33] <tritium> phixxor: it _appears_ that the info in the release notes *does* apply to you, and that you need to install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[01:34] <LSA2007> hey people
[01:34] <qowao> n8tuser: its error 15 IIRC FILE NOT FOUND!
[01:34] <porter1> CNN Live works on flash in their beta player on Ubuntu!!
[01:34] <thefool> it is doing the same thing for my home folder
[01:34] <solexious> KillerOrca, im not sure what to launch as it starts on startup on its own
[01:34] <LSA2007> I have a problem when trying to load a program.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> carltonsmith: let it autodetect and restart when it says (save your work)
[01:34] <eraldo> can I get a windows font to work under ubuntu linux ?
[01:34] <thefool> why the hell is a folder opening in a music player by default?
[01:34] <stage3> ActionParsnip,  the legacy nvidia driver isn't  work: The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.1
[01:34] <phixxor> tritium: that means I'm switching from madwifi to the new one?
[01:34] <eraldo> a nonstandard one
[01:34] <KillerOrca> solexious: you mean when you login it just pops up with no action on your part?
[01:34] <tritium> phixxor: yeah, so if it's AR5212, you would need ath_pci, but if it's AR5001+, I thin kyou need ath5k
[01:34] <n8tuser> qowao-> then look for error 15 on that page i gave you a link
[01:34] <CaptainMorgan> !gtk
[01:34] <LSA2007> It gave me SIGSEGV
[01:34] <qowao> yeah thx
[01:34] <qowao> thx n8tuser
[01:34] <n8tuser> qowao-> yw
[01:34] <phixxor> tritium: alright, I'll try
[01:34] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: will it do that from an apt-get install? (newb, sorry)
[01:34] <phixxor> tritium: thanks :)
[01:35] <tritium> phixxor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[01:35] <ditch64> Hi, i have a problem with GRUB, it gives me error 21 after trying to load stage 1.5 it is a FRESH install with no dual boot. any help would be appreciated
[01:35] <qowao> 15 : File not found This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK.
[01:35] <qowao> itersteing!
[01:35] <qowao> so UUID works!!
[01:35] <solexious> KillerOrca, you do know in taling about the network icon near to the date etc in the top right of the screen?
[01:35] <mynous> could vsftpd accessing the same file as rtorrent cause rtorrent uploads to come to a stop?
[01:35] <solexious> im*
[01:35] <eternicode> o. m. g.  Turns out I was defaulting to /bin/sh rather than /bin/bash *facepalm*
[01:35] <IRCcop>  iis there remote assistance in ubuntu?
[01:35] <ditch64> no
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> carltonsmith: the command i gave you will run the app after its installed, just read the screen
[01:35] <qowao> anyways, strange n8tuser since ubunut itself created those entries!
[01:35] <KillerOrca> solexious: no, I thought you were talking about the dialog window that pops up when you click on the icon
[01:35] <n8tuser> IRCcop-> what is a remot assistance per your definition?
[01:35] <IRCcop>    is there remote assistance in ubuntu?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you can run ssh server for remote access
[01:36] <KillerOrca> solexious or double click
[01:36] <rrittenhouse> Is it a *known* issue that vmware 2 server stopped working with the last few Ubuntu Hardy kernel upgrades and it's poured into Ubuntu Ibex ?
[01:36] <IRCcop> like someone who can fix my software issues remotely
[01:36] <kamekun> jrib, nothing :(
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: you can also use vnc if you want but its not an encrypted connection
[01:36] <LSA2007> peoples...
[01:36] <n8tuser> qowao-> http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html   read this too please
[01:36] <solexious> KillerOrca, if i double click the applet it just opens and closes the dropdown list
[01:37] <jrib> kamekun: 'id' returns nothing?  that's not possible
[01:37] <toastedmilk> Can anyone help me to understand just what exactly 'yum' is?
[01:37] <ditch64> !grub
[01:37] <yoyoned> !vnc>irccop
[01:37] <tritium> toastedmilk: it's not used or needed in ubuntu
[01:37] <LSA2007> I got an error with SIGSEGV when I compiled my program
[01:37] <LSA2007> when I tried executing it
[01:37] <LSA2007> any particular reason?
[01:37] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: strange, it seemed to run the install fine, but it didn't launch anything
[01:37] <rrittenhouse> toastedmilk, YUM is a package manager for Suse? I think. It does just what it says.
[01:37] <toastedmilk> tritium: I'm using it to try to install zynaddsubfx
[01:37] <n8tuser> IRCcop-> if you give me root access to your ubuntu box, i can remote fix some software
[01:37] <snkmad> RickZilla i managed to get sound working
[01:38] <kwak> hi i'm doing an apt-get update in hardy and i'm getting a GPG error: ... i already run apt-get install ubuntu-keyring but still not working. any suggestions?
[01:38] <snkmad> thx for the help earlier
[01:38] <toastedmilk> Can yum install .rpm files? Or are they compatible with 8.04?
[01:38] <joebeerbelly> centerim
[01:38] <IRCcop>  n8tuser once I finish the installation we can try
[01:38] <n8tuser> toastedmilk-> yum is for fedora like systems
[01:38] <scunizi> toastedmilk, no and no.. ubuntu uses .deb's
[01:38] <KillerOrca> solexious clicking on the network manager icon brings up no windows at all then?
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> carltonsmith: give it a bit, if it still fails, run it from your menus
[01:39] <yoyoned> toastedmilk: yum can install rpm files, but ubuntu does not use yum or rpm files
[01:39] <n8tuser> IRCcop-> am just using that as a sample, am not really going to do it for you..saying it is possible to remotely access and repair
[01:39] <yoyoned> toastedmilk: what are you trying to install
[01:39] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: will do, thanks for the help - hope this works
[01:39] <kamekun> jrib, i dont undertand, repeat what you mean with id?
[01:39] <tritium> toastedmilk: then, "sudo apt-get install zynaddsubfx"
[01:39] <dovel> kwak: have u added any 3rd party repositories?
[01:39] <BarnseyC> ActionParsnip Sound is working though speakers, only issue is when I plug in headphones, I get no audio through speaker or headphones, if I enable end select Headphones Line out switch I get audio in headphones and speakers.  All searching so far has not found anything, is was fine in Hardy.
[01:39] <toastedmilk> yoyoned: zynaddsubfx
[01:40] <ozatomic> hmm i can laod into gnome-failsafe but not normal gnome
[01:40] <IRCcop> completely offtopic but it seems obama is winning :(
[01:40] <tritium> toastedmilk: or, go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, and search for and then install it.
[01:40] <ozatomic> is there a way to clear my session for my user?
[01:40] <toastedmilk> haha, alright.  can anyone help me uninstall yum?
[01:40] <toastedmilk> xD
[01:40] <tritium> IRCcop: stay on topic, please
[01:40] <KillerOrca> solexious it was working before, but now it isnt?
[01:40] <kwak> nope dovel
[01:40] <phixxor> tritium: is the package I'm looking for on the cd? (I have the alternate i386 cd) if so how do I enable it
[01:40] <tritium> phixxor: I can't confirm that
[01:40] <phixxor> tritium: cause as of now it's saying package not found
[01:40] <KillerOrca> IRCcop: seems
[01:40] <kwak> i'm updating a freshly installed hardy and will do upgrade to intrepid later
[01:40] <scunizi> IRCcop, it's only an illusion.. don't breath the ether
[01:40] <solexious> KillerOrca, ive only been using the top right applet
[01:40] <phixxor> tritium: but it does have linux-backports-modules-generic
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> BarnseyC: not something ive come across. ive seen folks asking in here
[01:41] <King> hey linux world
[01:41] <Out_Cold> what's the easiest way to convert 30 000 .ogg files to mp3?
[01:41] <Baxter002> Hello there all
[01:41] <tritium> phixxor: otherwise, you have no internet access, I assume?
[01:41] <phixxor> tritium: but it does have linux-backports-modules--intrepid-generic
[01:41] <phixxor> tritium: that's the look of it
[01:41] <King> i have a small problem if anyone has time
[01:41] <n8tuser> Out_Cold-> write a script ?
[01:41] <phixxor> I could dl it on another computer and transfer with usb though
[01:41] <toastedmilk> If I use the synaptic package manager to uninstall yum, should I do a complete removal?
[01:41] <tritium> phixxor: maybe so
[01:41] <Baxter002> I can't seem to find the ubuntu help room
[01:41] <thefool> Out_Cold, a bash script and the lame encoder
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> BarnseyC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=641545
[01:41] <scunizi> Out_Cold, why not just leave them as ogg?
[01:41] <ditch64> Hi, i have a problem with GRUB, it gives me error 21 after trying to load stage 1.5 it is a FRESH install with no dual boot. any help would be appreciated
[01:41] <tritium> toastedmilk: no, don't install yum, install zynaddsubfx
[01:42] <toastedmilk> Baxter002: you're in it
[01:42] <n8tuser> toastedmilk-> purge is complete removal
[01:42] <Dreamglider> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a decent laptop, Intel Core2 at 2GHz, 2Gb ram and ATI radeon 9800, it runs very nice, i also have a laptop with 3.06GHz intel PIIII HT with 512Mb ram and an nVidia grahåic card with 256Mb ram, quiestion: will this pc run ubuntu ok good or pretty good ? (best grapich settings ofcourse ;) )
[01:42] <KillerOrca> solexious Ok, describe how you used it.  Also is this a laptop?
[01:42] <Baxter002> ah
[01:42] <toastedmilk> tritium: already did
[01:42] <toastedmilk> n8tuser: what?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> !info ogg2mp3
[01:42] <Out_Cold> scunizi, as far as i know most music players don't like ogg files
[01:42] <toastedmilk> n8tuser: I'm using synaptic package manager, I'm asking if it's safe
[01:42] <Out_Cold> and as for scripting.. i said easy lol
[01:42] <legend2440> thefool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/260492
[01:42] <n8tuser> toastedmilk-> safe yes
[01:42] <scunizi> Out_Cold, ah.. there is a converter in synaptic.. it'll take a while though.
[01:42] <phixxor> tritium: alright, I'm installing the -generic package
[01:42] <King> i am having dependency problems installing mplayer
[01:42] <toastedmilk> n8tuser: ty
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: converting from one lossy format to another lossy format will seriously degrade quality
[01:42] <dovel> kwak: open synaptic and press 'reload' to reload the package lists and re-authenticate them. That should work
[01:43] <Spaz926> Hello, I am having trouble with Blender running. I click on it in my menu and nothing happens. When I try opening it from the terminal, this is what I get; this is what I got : Compiled with Python version 2.5.2.
[01:43] <tritium> phixxor: good luck.  Follow that wiki page, is my best advice at this point.
[01:43] <Spaz926> Checking for installed Python... got it!
[01:43] <Spaz926> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:43] <Spaz926> intern/ghost/intern/GHOST_WindowX11.cpp:175: X11 glxChooseVisual() failed for OpenGL, verify working openGL system!
[01:43] <Spaz926> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[01:43] <FloodBot1> Spaz926: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <Spaz926>   Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty)
[01:43] <qowao> hey how would i copy the contents of folder A into fodler B with subfolders?
[01:43] <Sajuta> King: Are you using apt-get to do it?
[01:43] <morph3us> ActionParsnip, r u there?
[01:43] <thefool> legend2440, THANK YOU! Now I at least know what the problem is
[01:43] <Out_Cold> well ActionParsnip what do you suggest?
[01:43] <phixxor> tritium: alright. My only worry is that the card really is a 5212 and the computer is detecting it wrongly as 5001+
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Out_Cold: rerip the audio using LAME
[01:43] <qowao> hey how would i copy the contents of folder A including subfolders into fodler B??
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> morph3us: sup
[01:43] <tritium> phixxor: if that were true, "sudo modprobe ath_pci" should have worked
[01:43] <Baxter002> Minor emergency here, my Grub Boot Drive (no OS installed on the drive just data and grub) is giving me S.M.A.R.T warnings and the transfer rate has dropped to 50kb/s, how do I move the grub files for when the drive fails (T-minus #Minutes by my count)
[01:43] <King> ive tryed both apt-get and synaptic
[01:43] <oreomike> !info lame
[01:44] <kwak> dovel just tried that and i got this error
[01:44] <KillerOrca> qowao I would think just copy paste
[01:44] <solexious> KillerOrca, Ok, Yes it is, All of this was fine before the upgrade. When clicking on the network applet that is in the system tray next to the date in the topleft shows wired selected and wireless greyed. And right clicking shows the check box for networking and one for wireless witch is greyed out and not selected
[01:44] <kwak> W: GPG error: http://th.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:44] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, yep.. not what I'm doing though.. that's Out_Cold
[01:44] <Pelo> qowao,  cp -r /source /dest
[01:44] <Out_Cold> ActionParsnip, that's 30 000 tracks... that i just don't have any more
[01:44] <qowao> KillerOrca: no i mean console
[01:44] <qowao> aaah Pelo ok thx -r
[01:44] <jrib> kamekun: run the command: id
[01:44] <IRCcop> Does Ubuntu finance itself with donations ?
[01:44] <tritium> IRCcop: no
[01:44] <morph3us>  ActionParsnip i made the md5 checksum.. the file is ok, match
[01:44] <phixxor> tritium: yeah, it would have.... would that have work if ath_pci were also blacklisted?
[01:44] <Pelo> IRCcop, ubuntu is finances with the change mark shuttleworth finds in his couch
[01:45] <Spaz926>  Hello, I am having trouble with Blender running. I click on it in my menu and nothing happens. When I try opening it from the terminal, this is what I get; Compiled with Python version 2.5.2. Checking for installed Python... got it! Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". intern/ghost/intern/GHOST_WindowX11.cpp:175: X11 glxChooseVisual() failed for OpenGL, verify working openGL system! X Error of failed request:
[01:45] <Spaz926>   BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty) Resource id in failed request:  0xb613d380 Serial number of failed request:  11 Current serial number in output stream:  12
[01:45] <tritium> phixxor: perhaps not.  Is it blacklisted?
[01:45] <Dreamglider> and paid first class tech support :)
[01:45] <scunizi> Out_Cold, you might be able to do it from terminal with "lame"
[01:45] <kwak> dovel, trying other mirror
[01:45] <KillerOrca> solexious well it sounds like your wireless card support got borked in the upgrade, did you see if it was broken in the release notes?
[01:45] <phixxor> tritium: I don't know for sure, but blacklisting ath_pci is mentioned in the wiki
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> morph3us: ok then boot to the cd and check it theer too
[01:45] <Baxter002> is it just a case of cp'ing certain files?
[01:45] <Dreamglider> but  you
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> morph3us: if its ok, check the ram for issues
[01:46] <scunizi> Out_Cold, there's also Nautilus-script-audio-convert
[01:46] <Dreamglider> you'll get pretty much the same help here and in the forums ;)
[01:46] <ditch64> Hi, i have a problem with GRUB, it gives me error 21 after trying to load stage 1.5 it is a FRESH install with no dual boot. any help would be appreciated
[01:46] <jrib> kamekun: ls -ld /path/to/mount/point
[01:46] <dovel> kwak: try the solution here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/24061/comments/24
[01:46] <Pelo> ditch64, hold on
[01:46] <ditch64> k
[01:46] <BarnseyC> ActionParsnip, Cheers, but I think this might be a new problem.
[01:46] <qowao> -------------OK IMPORTANT QUESTION -- HOURS OF MY LIFE DEPEND ON IT hey is it ok to delete everything in /boot/grub and then do "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from a livecd
[01:46] <morph3us> ActionParsnip, actually i am using Archlinux.. i can't even make the CD test.. i got right away the "Error reading boot CD"
[01:46] <kwak> thanks dovel.
[01:46] <kamekun> jrib, ok
[01:46] <tritium> phixxor: if you didnt' intentionally blacklist it yourself, then it's not.  You can verify by reading /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:46] <solexious> KillerOrca, I havent checked, but all wifi cards, even usb ones i try gets recognized but I just seem to not be able to click the enable wireless check box
[01:47] <tritium> qowao: please don't use all-caps
[01:47] <qowao> tritium: thats not all-caps
[01:47] <ozatomic> hmm how can i delete suspended sessions from gnome?
[01:47] <kamekun> jrib, drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-11-02 00:36 /media/winbackup/
[01:47] <phixxor> tritium: alright, thanks. the computer is rebooting now. hopefully everything will work
[01:47] <morph3us> ActionParsnip, this could be related with the fact i am using an ATI card?
[01:47] <tritium> qowao: see above -- you used all-caps
[01:47] <Pelo> ditch64, error 21 means selected disk does not exist,  most likely your (hd0,0) thing in the root line is wrong , possibly a uuid line if you have those
[01:47] <tritium> phixxor: best of luck
[01:47] <qowao> tritium: whats the definition of 'all-caps'? everything in caps as i read it
[01:48] <phixxor> tritium: thanks
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Out_Cold: http://blog.ifitcangowrong.com/ubuntu/convert-mp3-in-ogg-vorbis-format-using-ubuntu-linux
[01:48] <ditch64> pelo, how would i go about fixing that?
[01:48] <tritium> qowao: drop it.  You know the intent.
[01:48] <jrib> kamekun: ok.  change "nls=utf8" to "locale=en_US.UTF-8" (or whatever locale you want)
[01:48] <qowao> k pls help me tho
[01:48] <IRCcop>  How do you guys know somuch about linux, did you guys went to college for that?
[01:48] <qowao> important
[01:48] <Pelo> ditch64, meet me in #grub , too busy in here
[01:48] <ditch64> k
[01:48] <KillerOrca> solexious ok well you need to get to a more detailed network manager besides the icon in order to unlock it I believe, I am not in front of a ubuntu box so I am not sure where you need to go
[01:48] <tritium> IRCcop: you'll learn more and more over time
[01:49] <solexious> KillerOrca, thank you for your help :)
[01:49] <KillerOrca> IRCcop Google for me mostly
[01:49] <kamekun> jrib, ij
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: just years of experience personally
[01:49] <IRCcop> lol
[01:49] <phixxor> tritium: SUCCESS! YOU ARE AMAZING
[01:49] <KillerOrca> solexious sorry I can't be of more since I'm not in front of it
[01:49] <qowao> =\
[01:49] <qowao> =/
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: just use it
[01:49] <tritium> phixxor: excellent.  Congrats.
[01:49] <phixxor> :)
[01:49] <qowao> =l
[01:50] <KillerOrca> solexious don't leave!
[01:50] <IRCcop>  honestly ,u need to be some smart cuz there is a lot of technical language
[01:50] <solexious> im still here :)
[01:50] <thefool> legend2440, So that bug is fixed now supposedly? When will users start actually downloading the fixed version so it does not mess up their systems?
[01:50] <KillerOrca> solexious check this link, I think it will help http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/ubuntu/1096-ubuntu-wireless-setup
[01:50] <novato_br> Ubuntu only turn off after pressing the space bar. What is going on?
[01:50] <qowao> PLS HELP hey is it ok to delete everything in /boot/grub and then do "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from a livecd
[01:50] <King> need some help installing mplayer
[01:51] <King> keep getting stuck on dependencies
[01:51] <Out_Cold> well ActionParsnip my main problem is a friend just dropped off a new ipod. asked me to fill it.. and i'm stuck with 30 000 ogg tracks that are quite useless to the ipod
[01:51] <morph3us> somebody here uses an ATI graphic card?
[01:51] <novato_br> Ubuntu only turn off after pressing the space bar. What is going on?
[01:51] <kamekun> jrib, nothing
[01:51] <ozatomic> I think my gnome is tring to resume a session how can i kill/reset all sessions or suspended sessions states?
[01:51] <phixxor> tritium: alright, tomorrow I"m going to tackle my other wifi problem on another computer -- it has a linksys usb adapter, and can only connect to unencrypted networks
[01:51] <Sajuta> king: Use apt-get. "sudo apt-get install mplayer" without the quotes.
[01:51] <jrib> kamekun: did you remount the partition? how?
[01:51] <tritium> phixxor: sounds good
[01:51] <legend2440> morph3us: yes  radeon 9600
[01:51] <phixxor> tritium: sound fixable?
[01:51] <tritium> phixxor: hard to say.  Hopefully.
[01:51] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  what was the name of the wrapper ?
[01:51] <morph3us> legend2440, do u have the intrepid ibex version?
[01:52] <King> i have tried that
[01:52] <legend2440> morph3us: yes
[01:52] <Sajuta> King: And what happens, exactly?
[01:52] <solexious> KillerOrca, oooooh, looks promising
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: ndiswrapper
[01:52] <Dreamglider> morph3us: i do
[01:52] <morph3us> legend2440,  i am getting this error.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jr/3003476569/
[01:52] <phixxor> tritium: alright. thanks again for all your help
[01:52] <morph3us> i already make the md5 checksum validation..
[01:52] <tritium> phixxor: no problem
[01:52] <kamekun> jrhorner, of course
[01:52] <jrhorner> anyone having problems with wireless bcm43xx in ibex? Such as it works then for some reason just stops then comes back.
[01:53] <morph3us> i don't know if this error is related to my ATI card.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jr/3003476569/
[01:53] <Out_Cold> if i switch the OS on the ipod does anyone know if i can switch it back to the apple OS?
[01:53] <jrib> kamekun: my second question?
[01:53] <thefool> legend2440, well thanks legend2440 the problem is fixed on my machine, I hope that the fix gets moved out of intrepid-proposed to intrepid proper asap
[01:53] <kamekun> jrib, of course i remount and mount again
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | jrhorner
[01:53] <jrib> kamekun: *how*?  What do you run exactly?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> jrhorner: try that
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | jrhorner
[01:53] <thefool> Out_Cold, yea, of course you can, just use apples restore tool
[01:53] <IRCcop>  ! is an antivirus needed in linux?
[01:53] <jrhorner> does it work in ibex yet
[01:53] <jrib> IRCcop: no
[01:53] <scunizi> IRCcop, no
[01:54] <King> no
[01:54] <thefool> Out_Cold, have had linux running on my ipod since I got my 3rd gen and have been dual booting too
[01:54] <gentoo_usr> Just curious, has there been a lot of politics spam/trolls today?
[01:54] <King> no irccop
[01:54] <kamekun> jrib, sudo umount /media/disk and sudo mount -a
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> IRCcop: it can be installed but if you keep root access limited you are ok. there are linux virii
[01:54] <IRCcop> what do u need to make swf movies in ubuntu ?
[01:54] <jrhorner> I've read up that some have luck and others not
[01:54] <jrib> kamekun: pastebin your current fstab
[01:54] <legend2440> morph3us: i've never had a problem with any of the cd's and i've always had this ati card . so i'm not sure
[01:54] <jrib> kamekun: and the output of 'mount'
[01:54] <tritium> gentoo_usr: please stay on topic
[01:54] <dovel> kwok: do u have the medibuntu repositories?
[01:54] <Out_Cold> thefool, may i pvt to take this off topic Q out of the chat?
[01:54] <thefool> sure
[01:55] <georgy_28> IRCcop, : kdenlive can do it
[01:55] <morph3us> legend2440, can u borrow me the info about the server wich u downloaded the iso?
[01:55] <kamekun> jrib, nothing, but i see the partition on the desktop when i umount and mount
[01:55] <morph3us> sorry, my english sucks :p
[01:55] <IRCcop> can you manage fla files in ubuntu?
[01:55] <jrib> kamekun: huh?  Can you pastebin those two things I asked about?
[01:56] <dovel> kwak: do u have the medibuntu repositories?
[01:56] <kamekun> jrib, ok
[01:56] <jrhorner> thanks ubottu. I'll check it out
[01:56] <dovel> kwak: apparently they make this problem more common - if so, install the package medibuntu keyring
[01:57] <scunizi> !welcome | jrhorner
[01:57] <Pelo> !pastebin
[01:57] <jrhorner> thank you. I'm pretty new to this (1 month in Linux) but loving it so far.
[01:57] <ozatomic> I can load gnome in failsafe but not normally ?
[01:58] <legend2440> morph3us: if i remember right i downloaded from this server    http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/
[01:58] <scunizi> jrhorner, ubottu is a bot.. called by using a !<subject | nick
[01:58] <KillerOrca> does anyone use ushare or the modofied version?
[01:58] <dan__> hello
[01:58] <jrhorner> ok.
[01:59] <dan__> dan
[01:59] <snowj> hi, anyone in here using awm?!
[01:59] <kamekun> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m43a7c469
[01:59] <scunizi> jrhorner, but still.. welcome.. linux & ubuntu is a great adventure..
[01:59] <jrgp_> should I leave my servers on hardy LTS or upgrade them to inretpid?
[01:59] <jrib> kamekun: and the output of mount
[01:59] <georgy_28> stay with hardy
[02:00] <ldiamond> Is there a better shell better than "sh" ? When I use sh, I cant move around with the arrows or get the last command executed.
[02:00] <simple> hello everyone
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> jrgp_: is hardy working 100%?
[02:00] <jrib> ldiamond: bash
[02:00] <dan__> hello
[02:00] <jrgp_> yes, ActionParsnip
[02:00] <KillerOrca> ldiamond bash?
[02:00] <kamekun> jrib, when i mount  return anything
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> jrgp_: if it aint broke, dont fix it
[02:00] <jrib> kamekun: just type 'mount'
[02:00] <jrgp_> alright
[02:01] <jrhorner> ty scunizi. I'm enjoying the program conky so i can start learning programming and scripts. any other suggestions for learning scripts
[02:01] <ldiamond> well, I mean the same as sh but enhanced a bit so the user can actually do something
[02:01] <jrib> ldiamond: you want bash
[02:01] <ldiamond> I'm debugging a sh script, and I want to manually put commands in a sh console
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> jrgp_: its still got LTS so dont sweat it for a while
[02:01] <ldiamond> jrib when I try to run bash, nothing happens
[02:01] <novato_br> noboby know what is it?
[02:01] <scunizi> jrhorner, nope.. I've been running ubuntu for about 2.5 yrs.. and I haven't started scripting yet.
[02:01] <firecrotch> can anyone help me?
[02:02] <jrib> ldiamond: bash is your default shell anyway
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> !ask  | firecrotch
[02:02] <ldiamond> jrib then it doesnt work. I cant have more than one line.
[02:02] <\Kira> Im setting up my ubuntu server, and I was wondering: what are the pop3s, pop3, imap, and imaps protocals for? I think pop3 is for getting mail and imap for sending, but I dont know what the extra ports with an atached s are for. Anyone know
[02:02] <kamekun> jrib, http://pastebin.com/d1b6da417
[02:02] <genii> ldiamond: When you run bash without any arguments you are just recursively running it inside your current shell
[02:02] <firecrotch> ActionParsnip my nvidia card doesnt work on intrepid its blank?
[02:02] <OddlotX4> 175-70 Everyone, Obiden is leading.
[02:02] <jrib> ldiamond: you need to pastebin what you are referring to.  "Can't have more than one line?"
[02:03] <ldiamond> jrib: Suppose I want to declare a variable, then do something with it. I cant do that in bash
[02:03] <jrib> ldiamond: why not?  How are you trying?
[02:03] <novato_br> After to send shutdown order to Ubuntu. It doesn't shutdown! And I've press space bar to shutdown the system
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> firecrotch: lots of folks are having issues. i suggest envyng-gtk or install the binary nvidia driver
[02:03] <KillerOrca> \Kira have you set up a mailserver before?
[02:03] <novato_br> what is going on?
[02:03] <scunizi> OddlotX4, fox count is 163/83
[02:03] <tritium> scunizi: stay on topic
[02:03] <umum> tete
[02:03] <\Kira> KillerOrca: no, im new to servers
[02:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[02:04] <ldiamond> jrib: I tried suppose: plik=~/w <enter> echo plik <enter> but plik isnt defined anymore
[02:04] <firecrotch> ActionParsnip: Does envy work on intrepid
[02:04] <KillerOrca> \Kira Ok, any particular need to set one up or just messing around?
[02:04] <Cluber> I now love ubuntu
[02:04] <tritium> OddlotX4: you're offtopic as well
[02:04] <\Kira> KillerOrca: Messing around, might actually disable it, but i was just curios to what they do
[02:04] <jrib> ldiamond: you need to export variables
[02:04] <ldiamond> jrib humm, I must be mistaken, using a simpler example seemed to work
[02:04] <King> need some help with dependency issues
[02:04] <Cluber> Is pidgin the default IRC client in 8.10/
[02:05] <tritium> Cluber: yes.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> firecrotch: sure does afaik
[02:05] <\Kira> Cluber: yep
[02:05] <umum> fuck all
[02:05] <Cluber> cool.
[02:05] <tritium> Cluber: default IM client, rather, not necessarily IRC.
[02:05] <jrib> umum: watch your language please
[02:05] <firecrotch> ActionParsnip ok thanks :)
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Cluber: you can install any you desire
[02:05] <\Kira> umum: that wasnt very nice
[02:05] <Cluber> Yup :)
[02:05] <kamekun> jrib, do u see the pastebin?
[02:05] <jrib> ldiamond: if you want variables you define to stay defined in child processes you do "export foo=bar"
[02:05] <s3phir0th15> I had a question regarding the Ubuntu DVD. If I were to download it, would it have the other desktop environments installable from the disc?
[02:05] <Cluber> I use this anyway :)
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Cluber: theres a great slew of choices
[02:05] <Spaz926> What is the command to tell you vidio card?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Spaz926: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:06] <KillerOrca> \Kira well I have no experience with it, but there is quite a few guides here  http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#install
[02:06] <\Kira> s3phir0th15: not as far as I know, if you want a different environment, you can download it from apt-get or try a distro like kubuntu (ubuntu with kde)
[02:06] <\Kira> KillerOrca: okay
[02:07] <\Kira> KillerOrca: thx
[02:07] <s3phir0th15> Alright. Thanks \Kira.
[02:07] <\Kira> s3phir0th15: no problem
[02:07] <Spaz926> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[02:07] <metrick> How do i save .gif files on Ubuntu 8.10
[02:07] <metrick> ?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> metrick: from where?
[02:08] <\Kira> metrick: it depends on what your saving them from.
[02:08] <metrick> from yahoo mail
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> metrick: right click image -> save image
[02:08] <King> got a tough one if anyone up for helping
[02:09] <\Kira> metrick: thats more of a firefox thing than ubuntu, though.
[02:09] <Maltor124> I just installed 8.04 LTS,  and then updated to 8.10 through the update manager. On reboot the Boot Manager is gone, and I can't boot in.  Help someone?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> !ask  | king
[02:09] <microchip420> heys everybody, I had a power interruption earlier, and now my system will not connect to the web consistently, I keep getting a 'server timeout' message for port 80. how can i fix this?
[02:09] <Pirate_Hunter> does flash work well with 8.10?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Maltor124
[02:09] <Ben_Pang> on gcc result "checking for the pthreads library -lpthreads... no", how can i do?
[02:09] <jamie> i'm up to 100% on my root drive, and it's causing me problems. besides emptying trash (which is empty), is there another easy way to free up some space?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: install flashplayer-nonfree and nspluginwrapper
[02:09] <Ben_Pang> on gcc result "checking for the pthreads library -lpthreads... no", how can i do?
[02:09] <jrib> kamekun: ok.  do this: sudo umount /dev/sda2 && sudo mount -o locale=en_US.UTF-8,umask=007,gid=46 /dev/sda2 /media/winbackup && ls -ld /media/winbackup
[02:09] <jrhorner> King: I did the same thing and had to do a full install from cd
[02:10] <scunizi> jamie, check you're log files... you can probably delete them
[02:10] <jrib> Ben_Pang: what are you compiling?
[02:10] <zerwas> Has Ubuntu 8.10 TLS support with ProFTPD?
[02:10] <metrick> Thank you =]
[02:10] <graham__> hey just wondering, is everyone elese here getting crashes from 8.10?
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: then nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[02:10] <earthen> jamie,  delete all your porn! LOL
[02:10] <jamie> scunizi, rm -rf /var/log ?
[02:10] <Spaz926> How do I restart my Xserver?
[02:10] <Ben_Pang> I would compile slony1
[02:11] <scunizi> jamie, looks right
[02:11] <\Kira> earthen: lol
[02:11] <jamie> k
[02:11] <Ben_Pang> run ./configure
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> Spaz926: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:11] <carltonsmith> ActionParsnip: It Worked! You Rock!
[02:11] <jamie> earthen :-P
[02:11] <kamekun> jrib, just return drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 16384 2008-11-02 00:11 /media/winbackup
[02:11] <Spaz926> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[02:11] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter, ActionParsnip: just installing flashplugin-nonfree will automatically set it up with nspluginwrapper on 64bit
[02:11] <earthen> jamie, sorry I had too!!! :)
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> carltonsmith: cheers man, glad its good
[02:11] <jrib> kamekun: ok.  You should be able to write to it.  Is that correct?
[02:12] <Cluber> does anyone know what the firefox java plugin is called
[02:12] <kamekun> jrib, nop
[02:12] <jrib> Cluber: sun-java6-plugin
[02:12] <Cluber> ty
[02:12] <jrib> kamekun: run this: touch /media/winbackup/testing_that_i_can_write
[02:13] <Cluber> dam I love ubuntu
[02:13] <jamie> scunizi, thx, but that didn't have much of an effect. any other things i can easily wipe out to help with hd space?
[02:13] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  I did sudo apt-get install cabextract and did install
[02:14] <kamekun> jrib, yes the file is there, but i cant create a directory from right click, this is weird
[02:14] <jrib> kamekun: press "reload" in nautilus
[02:14] <King> k srry noob lol, i am trying to install mplayer and unmet dependencies error, I have installed the proper repos, updated and tried installing trough apt-get and synaptic and the error remains.  Even tried installing one of the  dependency separately and it told me it was already installed
[02:15] <IRCcop>  ActionParsnip  now cabextract -d <exe file> but it does not work
[02:15] <scunizi> jamie, check Applications/Accessories/disk usage analyser and see what's eating everything.. how large is your /?
[02:15] <kamekun> jrib, yes now i can, then all the time i was able to write right?
[02:15] <firecrotch> king try sudo apt-get install -f
[02:15] <jrib> kamekun: yeah, after the locale change I assume.  Try unmounting and using mount -a
[02:15] <King> srry i have tried that also and it didn't work
[02:15] <jamie> puny partition, scunizi 5gb (old machine)
[02:15] <kamekun> jrib, thanks let me see.
[02:15] <King> i did alot of searching
[02:15] <firecrotch> strange
[02:15] <IRCcop>  I need help with wireless
[02:16] <scunizi> jamie, anything like apache, php, etc installed?
[02:16] <jamie> hmm, scunizi i don't have  disk  usage analyzer it seems
[02:16] <scunizi> jamie, hardy or ibex?
[02:16] <qowao> look http://paste.ubuntu.com/67623/ didnt do anything wrong inf act still i get those ERROR 15 FIle not found msgs each time i try one of my ubuntu partitions
[02:16] <qowao> just tweaked the /boot/grub/menu.lst a little
[02:16] <earthen> jamie,  uninstall open office
[02:16] <qowao> please give me a hand
[02:17] <jrib> qowao: did you verify the UUIDs are correct?
[02:17] <dresh> hey I am new in ubantu can someone help me with some of stuff
[02:17] <King> what u need dresh
[02:17] <kamekun> jrib, yes its works, thanks men; one last noob question... how i put a / disk on the desktop?
[02:17] <dresh> thanks King I need help with matlab installation
[02:17] <earthen> jamie, install abbie work about 1/10th the size
[02:17] <jamie> scunizi, hmm, looks like it's still on hardy, thought i upgraded, but maybe space problem got in the way
[02:17] <earthen> abbie word
[02:17] <qowao> jrib: how would i do that, anyways it worked before too and ubuntu made this file!
[02:18] <jrib> !icons | kamekun
[02:18] <jamie> i hear you about ooo, earthen, thx
[02:18] <King> what wrong
[02:18] <jrib> !uuid | qowao
[02:18] <scunizi> jamie, I'm on hardy too.. I'll look at ibex and see .. i have it in a vm
[02:18] <woody86> can someone help me out, I installed Kubuntu, and removed all the Ubuntu stuff, and now when I click on the Firefox icon in Kubuntu it says it has no Type=... entry??
[02:18] <dresh> it says java run time error
[02:18] <kamekun> jrib, thanks for your help.
[02:18] <jrib> kamekun: no problem
[02:18] <qowao> UUID is correct jrib
[02:19] <Dominik2> can someone tell me why the music player is visible in the bottom panel even if I am on a workspace where the music player is NOT?
[02:19] <jamie> scunizi, i'm on an xfce session right now, so things might be out of place in the menus
[02:19] <qowao> where is the UUID stored and mapped to the actual partitions jrib
[02:19] <DocUSN-USMC> anyone know what changes you get with 8.10?
[02:19] <scunizi> jamie, true
[02:19] <OxDeadC0de> can I send and recieve hotmail emails easily in evolution?
[02:19] <jrib> qowao: beats me
[02:19] <shiki9> i am at a crossroads. i have a gaming PC with vista to play games but i have another older pc with ubuntu 8.10 and have become addicted. i feel i want to be in ubuntu all the time
[02:20] <firecrotch> shik19 wow thats great
[02:20] <King> dresh 'fraid that beyond me
[02:20] <popg> shiki9: that machine beefy enough to run windows in vmware?
[02:20] <DocUSN-USMC> whats the command line to upgrade to 8.10?
[02:20] <dresh> can u tellme where can I get help?
[02:21] <jrib> !upgrade > DocUSN-USMC
[02:21] <shiki9> popg: 3d games play good in vmware ?
[02:21] <\Kira> whats a command to list all the users on the system?
[02:21] <jrib> dresh: check the matlab entry at help.ubuntu.com/community
[02:21] <qowao> me too jrib
[02:21] <qowao> jrib: where are thos UUIDs stored
[02:21] <firecrotch> !upgrade | firecrotch
[02:21] <scunizi> jamie, disk usage analyser is in ibex too.  try "baobab" from termial
[02:21] <dresh> Jrib thank slet me try
[02:21] <jrib> \Kira: getent passwd, or maybe 'ls /home' depending on what you want it for
[02:22] <jamie> just found it too, scunizi running it. thx for the tip
[02:22] <\Kira> jrib: is there anyway to find out what permissions they have aswell? I can run sudo\
[02:22] <scunizi> jamie, np
[02:22] <Ben_Pang> jrib,this running ./configure result
[02:23] <jrib> Ben_Pang: I asked *what* you were compiling
[02:23] <\Kira> my ubuntu server complains that a user already exists, but that user doesnt have a home directory
[02:23] <kooparg> could some one integrate firefox menu to global menu?
[02:23] <jrib> \Kira: was he in the output from my first command?
[02:24] <Ben_Pang> jrib,slony
[02:24] <Ben_Pang> jrib,slony1
[02:24] <Ben_Pang> on debian4 etch
[02:24] <jrib> \Kira: sudo -l  will give the permissions for the invoking user, not sure what you mean
[02:24] <\Kira> jrib: one sec, gotta make a pastebin for the command output
[02:24] <jrib> Ben_Pang: ask the debian channel please, this channel is for ubuntu support
[02:25] <\Kira> jrib: im trying to find out the information of a user that the system says exists, but has no home dir
[02:25] <jrib> \Kira: gentent passwd
[02:25] <Ben_Pang> can you help me ?
[02:25] <jrib> Ben_Pang: no, ask #debian please
[02:25] <deselby9> hi
[02:25] <Maltor124> The Grub installation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=Restore Grub didn't fix anything.  Before booting into Linux it reports there is no bootloader. Any other ideas? I am the guy who lost the bootloader after upgrading from 8.04LTS to 8.10.
[02:25] <jrib> Ben_Pang: on ubuntu, slony is in the repositories
[02:26] <deselby9> I recently upgraded to 8.10 and now sound does not work anymore
[02:26] <\Kira> jrib: okay, i see. Yeah, thats exactly what I was looking for. Thanks
[02:26] <IRCcop>  I have the wireless driver exe and ndiswrapper , I need help!!!!
[02:26] <Ben_Pang> I want to install by source
[02:26] <deselby9> just crackilng noise ...
[02:26] <juaroj> hi
[02:26] <jrib> Ben_Pang: you are in the wrong channel, this channel is for *ubuntu*.  /join #debian
[02:26] <deselby9> anyone could help me out here
[02:26] <juaroj> how i can recuperated files saved in open office ?
[02:26] <\Kira> whats the command line command to remove a user?
[02:27] <jrib> \Kira: deluser, make sure you want to remove him...
[02:27] <King> k srry noob lol, i am trying to install mplayer and unmet dependencies error, I have installed the proper repos, updated and tried installing trough apt-get and synaptic and the error remains.  Even tried installing one of the  dependency separately and it told me it was already installed
[02:27] <\Kira> jrib: positive, thanks
[02:27] <jrib> King: pastebin your exact error (and the command you ran)
[02:27] <Ben_Pang> thanks for jrib
[02:27] <Maltor124> Any help? Missing Grub after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10!
[02:27] <Simo1> just input /quit
[02:27] <popg> today i plugged my Samsum ML-2010 laser printer into a xubuntu 8.04 machine and it was ready to print in literally a second
[02:28] <jrib> popg: I was really impressed when that happened too :)
[02:28] <dug_> Anyone recommend a tool for monitoring an ubuntu server, that is able to restart processes or reboot too perhaps?  I saw this article: http://www.linux.com/articles/151982
[02:29] <jdo> where do we go for downloading jaunty?
[02:29] <popg> hahaha unbelievable, i am training someone for desktop support and his jaw literally dropped
[02:29] <dewente> verizon fios problems.. port forwarding
[02:29] <jrib> jdo: jaunty has not been released
[02:29] <jdo> :-)
[02:29] <jdo> guess i need to try an inside channel :-)
[02:30] <jrib> jdo: if you should be running jaunty, you'd know how :)
[02:30] <popg> dewente: what are you having trouble with?
[02:30] <jrib> King: paste.ubuntu.com instead of flooding me in a private message please :)
[02:30] <phixxor> hey, if I'm dualbooting, can I use ubuntu to remove a virus on my windows partition?
[02:30] <Maltor124> Any help? Missing Grub after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10! Instructions from !grub did not work.
[02:30] <sleepercivic88> I was wondering if anyone can help me getting bluetooth on a dell mini9 working with intrepid I originally bought the machine with xp because of the shorter lead time andd upgraded to intrepid
[02:31] <jrib> !paste | King
[02:31] <IRCcop> !info ndiswrapper
[02:31] <SOURdiesel> ﻿ i found this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu for those having issues with ATI drivers
[02:31] <King> first IRC and don't know how to do anythng
[02:32] <Cajun_Tech> Is anyone in here familiar with Ubuntu support costs? I can't seem to tell from the website if the listed costs are for one, or more computers.
[02:32] <deselby9> any advice on how to get sound working in 8.10 ... currently I get only crackling noice
[02:32] <King> how do i paste.bin
[02:32] <sleepercivic88> can anyone help me with bluetooth on mini9 from dell?
[02:32] <jrib> mneptok: if you're around, you can probably help out Cajun_Tech
[02:32] <KillerOrca> King it's a url
[02:33] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit | king
[02:33] <KillerOrca> !paste | King
[02:33] <Flare183> !netsplit
[02:34] <fprintf> Any recommendations on how to update ubuntu-studio to 8.10?
[02:34] <Cajun_Tech> jrib: Thanks for the attempt. They list 9-5 desktop support as $250.  I can't tell if they mean per PC, or like an entire business.
[02:35] <lu31415> hi everyone
[02:35] <Tetracomm> fprintf: Can you recommend any good video editing programs?
[02:35] <OddlotX4> 200-85(Yeah, I'm off topic, but i'm just keeping you's updated)
[02:35] <jrib> Cajun_Tech: wait around a while for mneptok to be active, or try emailing canonical about it
[02:35] <Cajun_Tech> jrib: I can hang out for a bit.  Thanks.
[02:35] <dresh> hi can some one help me with matlab installation
[02:35] <sleepercivic88> kdenlive is pretty good for video editing but forr KDE
[02:36] <lu31415> i've got a radeon hd2400 pro, having problems getting it to work in ubuntu (8.04) - I heard this might be because it's the agp version instead of pci-e, as it's not supported - can anyone confirm this?
[02:36] <King> im sorry folks i will google it and come back
[02:36] <jrib> King: just visit paste.ubuntu.com in your browser, copy and paste the error there, then hit submit, then give us the url you get
[02:37] <Conglomo> So when I expire a users' password with "passwd -e <username>" it makes the user no longer able to log in. It says their password is expired and says that they need to change it, and then closes the connection (ssh). Is there a way I can fix this? In the previous versions of Ubuntu (7.04) it would ask the user to enter a new password and everything would be fine.
[02:37] <sleepercivic88> Can I get some bluetooth help I dont think i can turn it on
[02:38] <retry> uuuuuuuuiu
[02:38] <King> k
[02:38] <retry> jhkh
[02:39] <SOURdiesel> does anyone have the wiki link for mounting shared files/folders
[02:39] <greg_universe> I just updated to 8.10 :-D
[02:40] <SOURdiesel> i just downgraded to 8.04 =-O
[02:40] <deselby9> hello
[02:40] <deselby9> anyone to help me with sound problem
[02:41] <dewente> verizon fios port problems
[02:41] <King> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67677/
[02:41] <phixxor> sup foucault
[02:41] <deselby9> ubuntu 8.10
[02:41] <\Kira> I dont think ill upgrade, Im on kubuntu and dont want 4.1 or to reconfigure my 3.5, im (mostly) happy with 8.04
[02:41] <phixxor> what is postmodern thought?
[02:41] <\Kira> !ask | deselby9
[02:42] <dresh> help needed with matlab installation
[02:42] <fonzarelli> CNN is essentially saying McCain is done
[02:42] <rambo298> suggested app to debug/step through php?
[02:42] <fonzarelli> oops, wrong channel, sorry
[02:42] <tritium> fonzarelli: stay on topic
[02:42] <\Kira> fonzarelli: yeah, im glad obama is going to win. He supports network nutrality
[02:42] <deselby9> I upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 sound stoped working .. I can hear only cracking noise at the moment ..
[02:43] <Cluber> What is the equivalent in linux to a windows batch file?
[02:43] <sleepercivic88> Can anyone help me with bluetooth adaptor not appeering
[02:43] <herenbdy> .sh?
[02:43] <\Kira> Cluber: bash file?
[02:43] <fonzarelli> Cluber: shell script
[02:43] <\Kira> lol
[02:43] <izzy200198> im having a tough time with this problem and so for not one person has had a suggestion
[02:43] <\Kira> Cluber: fonzarelli seems more confident, id go with his answer
[02:43] <herenbdy> unless there's a channel specifically for EEE PC's i'll ask here:
[02:44] <rambo298> suggested app to debug/step through php?
[02:44] <Cluber> i made a file test.sh and had the line in it "ls" it didnt work
[02:44] <\Kira> !repeat | rambo298
[02:44] <izzy200198> I have a dualboot win xp and Ubuntu 8.04 PC. I upgraded to 8.10 via internet. After rebooting I noticed the cd/dvd drive is missing in ubuntu. Only showing hard drives. I rebooted and from the GRUB menu selected the previous kernal. cd/dvd shows and works just fine as before the upgrade. Rebooted again to new kernal and once again the cd/dvd player is missing. Anyone know how to resolve this?
[02:44] <fonzarelli> Cluber: the first line has to be:  #!/bin/sh
[02:45] <herenbdy> i'm running Ibex on my EEE PC 1000H, and anyything with opengl in it is exytemely buggy, sometimes non-viewable
[02:45] <Cluber> ok thanks
[02:45] <rambo298> \Kira: i know all about repeats; for a sec i thought i was on the wrong channel and that this was one run by the dnc
[02:45] <fonzarelli> Cluber: also, make sure it is executable,  you can do that with   chmod +x filename.sh
[02:45] <\Kira> rambo298: I see
[02:46] <herenbdy> does anyone know what I could do to fix this?
[02:46] <herenbdy> the eee uses intel's gma 950
[02:46] <Appl3Kork> so I have a template for a site that uses flash, and it's on my ubuntu server, but is there a way to like activate flash or something?
[02:46] <Appl3Kork> cause it says this at the top of the screen: FAIL (the browser should render some flash content, not this).
[02:46] <Maltor124> I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 via the upgrade manager, and my Bootmanager (Grub) is missing, so Ubuntu can't boot. I've tried everything that applies on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Recovering%20GRUB%20Automatically this page, and I don't know what else to do. Are there any other methods to recover Grub?
[02:46] <izzy200198> I have a dualboot win xp and Ubuntu 8.04 PC. I upgraded to 8.10 via internet. After rebooting I noticed the cd/dvd drive is missing in ubuntu. Only showing hard drives. I rebooted and from the GRUB menu selected the previous kernal. cd/dvd shows and works just fine as before the upgrade. Rebooted again to new kernal and once again the cd/dvd player is missing. Anyone know how to resolve this?
[02:46] <Cluber> nice one fonzarelli
[02:47] <danbhfive> Maltor124: are there any error messages?
[02:47] <cloud-ieee> Ubuntu 8.10 gives me a blank desktop upon boot. I can see the cursor but thats it. I go into the recovery console and choose 'fix broken packages' and I get the "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. error message. Can anyone help me with this please?
[02:47] <fonzarelli> Cluber: is it working now?
[02:47] <herenbdy> Compiz-fusion effects work fine, but anything opengl related is buggy
[02:47] <Cluber> Yes it worked a treat
[02:47] <fonzarelli> cheers
[02:47] <Appl3Kork> wait herenbdy u talking to me?
[02:47] <danbhfive> cloud-ieee: did you run the suggested command?
[02:47] <Cluber> kill a process?
[02:47] <Cluber> ps to find the pid, and then kill pid
[02:47] <Cluber> is that correct?
[02:47] <herenbdy> anyone
[02:48] <fonzarelli> Cluber: yep,   ps -ef|grep something
[02:48] <fonzarelli> Cluber: then kill that process id
[02:48] <Maltor124> danbhfive: There is, it says that BOOTMGR is missing. Press Ctrl + Alt + Del to reboot.
[02:48] <IRCcop>  I need help with my wireless
[02:48] <cloud-ieee> Dan, I did. I get dpkg error processing 'filename' over and over then it says dpkg: too many errors. Then finishes up with E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. error message. again
[02:49] <danbhfive> Maltor124: are you installing grub to your mbr?
[02:49] <danbhfive> cloud-ieee: can you pastebin the errors?
[02:50] <ncfi1013_> how do i rip music tracks to amarok?\
[02:50] <lu31415> how do i update from 8.04 to 8.10 - can i do it automatically, or install everything from scratch?
[02:50] <DasEi> .﻿phixxor:you can
[02:50] <Maltor124> danbhfive: All I know is that I'm following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub. At least the ones that apply. I'm fairly certain I'm installing to the MBR. How can I check?
[02:50] <Cluber> kill id isn't working
[02:50] <danbhfive> Maltor124: what are the commands you ran?
[02:50] <cloud-ieee> Dan, it is on my laptop, I am on my desky right now so no. I can type them out? There is quite a bit.... it would be worth it to get this fixed. Btw, this this happened due to an Ubuntu Hardy to Ubuntu Intrepid upgrade interrupt if that helps.
[02:51] <error404notfound> how can I reset the password of default keyring?
[02:51] <seronis> lu31415:  you need to change one setting in your package sources option and then run update.  thats it
[02:51] <seronis> the upgrade page on the main webpage is quite helpful and to the point
[02:51] <sleepercivic88> how do i get bluetooth working on the dell mini9 on intrepid upgraded from windows xp
[02:51] <dresh> pls help me
[02:51] <danbhfive> cloud-ieee: well, it sounds bad, but its hard to tell
[02:52] <lu31415> seronis: thanks, I'll look it up!
[02:52] <Cluber> why is it kill -9
[02:52] <phixxor> DasEi: I can what?
[02:52] <cloud-ieee> Dan, I am thinking the fix may be reloading but I would rather not do that.
[02:52] <cloud-ieee> :(
[02:52] <danbhfive> !paste | cloud-ieee    you can type up as much as you want here
[02:52]  * cloud-ieee sighs
[02:52] <gentoo_usr> Is Ubuntu politically biased?
[02:52] <seronis> no prob.  so far i havent had any issues with 8.10,   even spore gets further along than with 8.04 and im still on same version of wine
[02:52] <DasEi> .﻿phixxor:check a win install from ubuntu
[02:52] <tritium> gentoo_usr: absolutely not
[02:52] <danbhfive> cloud-ieee: if you have a separate /home, reinstalling is WAY easier
[02:52] <KillerOrca> sleepercivic88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:52] <gentoo_usr> I think Gentoo is more politically neutral.
[02:52] <phixxor> DasEi: great! how would I do that?
[02:52] <Maltor124> danbhfive: I tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67682/ Hard drive related things are not correct.
[02:53] <rootrot> hi i installed kubuntu then used aptitude to remove kubuntu-desktop and installed ubuntu-desktop and now im missing all kinds of programs. how dfo i fix this? im mising everything that was under menu=>system tools
[02:53] <cloud-ieee> Dan, I am not sure how to do that
[02:53] <Maltor124> danbhfive: As in, I don't remember the values. :s
[02:53] <KillerOrca> rootrot: Ubuntu and kubuntu use different programs for the same thing
[02:53] <deselby9> drak ... I guess I need to downgrade to 8.04 ... should have waited
[02:53] <yoyoned> !ot|gentoo_user
[02:53] <DasEi> phixxor:for example install antivir or clamav and let it check the drive
[02:53] <cloud-ieee> Dan, there has gotten be a way to do a system restore or downgrade back to Hardy from recovery console no???
[02:53] <DasEi> phixxor:can you still start the win install ?
[02:54] <danbhfive> !who > cloud-ieee please use tab to get my whole name    its easier on my eyes
[02:54] <King> did i pastebin wrong
[02:54] <IRCcop> would somebody help me with my atheros wirelesscard
[02:54] <phixxor> DasEi: yeah, but it bluescreens about a minute after logging on. I've tried an avast boot time scan, but that causes bluescreens also (in both cases it's "bad_pool_call")
[02:54] <danbhfive> cloud-ieee: the main way is to either have a separate /home, or backup your /home
[02:54] <Ward_> does anyone have experience with a audigy 2 and its frontpanel please?
[02:55] <danbhfive> IRCcop: intrepid?  have you read the !notes?
[02:55] <rootrot> KillerOrca: yes but after installing ubuntu-desktop the only thing my system tools menu ares is something for compiz,nothing is ther for adjusting settings on ubuntu
[02:55] <dr_willis> Ward_,  all i can say is that most of the jacks on mine worked.. when i had one..
[02:55] <IRCcop> no
[02:55] <IRCcop> what is intrepid?
[02:55] <kitche> !intrepid | IRCcop
[02:55] <DasEi> phixxor:I c, mind a pm ?
[02:55] <jrib> King: you need to give us the url for your paste
[02:55] <King> new ubuntu
[02:55] <cloud-ieee> danbhfive: My bad.
[02:55] <King> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67677/
[02:55] <Ward_> dr_willis, i cant get sound out of it but it gets detected, also the frontpanels light doesnt even light up so its not on, does the driver turn it on or something?
[02:55] <DasEi> !ibex|IRCcop
[02:55] <Ward_> i cannot find any howto or tutorial for it
[02:55] <cloud-ieee> This sux
[02:55] <phixxor> DasEi: go ahead
[02:56] <KillerOrca> rootrot seetings managers can also be moved around, but I personally have never switched whole windowing enviornments
[02:56] <IRCcop> !ibex
[02:56] <SOURdiesel> can anyone tell me the command for mounting a temporary network folder?
[02:56] <Maltor124> danbhfive: Any help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/67682/ I forgot the real HDD values
[02:56] <danbhfive> IRCcop: I guess you are on hardy.  How are you trying to get it working?
[02:56] <Ward_> is there a audio-specific channel?
[02:56] <asteroid> hello folks
[02:56] <dr_willis> Ward_,  not that i recall.. its been a while since i last messed with one. and even then all i did was use the headphone jacks
[02:56] <jrib> King: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy mplayer'
[02:56] <IRCcop> ndiswrapper
[02:56] <danbhfive> Maltor124: whats your menu.lst look like?
[02:56] <Cluber> i used that for wireless broadcom
[02:56] <unop> !samba | SOURdiesel
[02:56] <Ward_> dr_willis, i wanted it to use for audio output and remote control
[02:56] <Maltor124> danbhfive: I'll check.
[02:56] <JairunCaloth> ok... so what's up with wifi in 8.10
[02:56] <mynous> is there a way to see disk info through cli? such as disk type?
[02:56] <Ward_> lol nice he just left
[02:56] <Ward_> friendly
[02:56] <unop> mynous, df -hT
[02:57] <mynous> ty unop
[02:57] <JairunCaloth> both of my laptops are intermitantly dropping their wifi connections
[02:57] <danbhfive> JairunCaloth: atheros?
[02:57] <JairunCaloth> one is atheros yes
[02:57] <\Kira> Whats a command to see what groups a user is in?
[02:57] <jrib> \Kira: groups
[02:58] <JairunCaloth> I've got the old atheros driver installed on it because the new one wasn't working for me at all
[02:58] <danbhfive> JairunCaloth: you can try lbm.  I would check !notes on that
[02:58] <asteroid> spending around 8-10 hours to try, with various ubunteros, to make my sound card working. I've got an strange issue : headphone give me sound, but speakers no :(. The card is on AMD chip, know as ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA).  is someone have a way to help me ?
[02:58] <\Kira> jrib: just the command "groups"?
[02:58] <IRCcop> a lot of hp laptops have atheros wireless cards
[02:58] <jrib> \Kira: or 'groups USER' if you aren't logged in as the user
[02:58] <LF|Irssi> toshibas too
[02:58] <King> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67688/
[02:58] <jrib> !who | King
[02:58] <IRCcop> how do you that JairunCaloth
[02:58] <das> my hp laptop has broadcom
[02:58] <\Kira> jrib: thanks, your really being my source for information today :)
[02:59] <sleepercivic88> intrepid wifi works good with my broadcom on my dell
[02:59] <jrib> King: you are using medibuntu for intrepid, but you are on hardy.  Use the right medibuntu repositories (the hardy ones)
[02:59] <JairunCaloth> IRCcop: use the old drivers?
[02:59] <danbhfive> IRCcop: well, atheros got native support in intrepid, with some bumps.  Otherwise, I think you gota use ndiswrapper, or madwifi.  I dunno.  I had to use ndiswrapper
[02:59] <IRCcop> JairunCaloth I dont even know what drivers I'm using
[02:59] <JairunCaloth> lsmod | grep ath
[03:00] <JairunCaloth> or... what's the new one
[03:00] <King> how do i type it out to direct response
[03:00] <mynous> would using different physical disks e.g. /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 for system and programs like ftp/rtorrent make ftp/rtorrent transfers quicker?
[03:01] <truebosko> Hi, I'm trying to install a package and I get "Dependency is not satisfiable: libltdl3"  .. problem is I can't actually install this package as it does not exist. I installed libltdl3-dev but it didn't change anything. Any ideas?
[03:01] <sleepercivic88> can anyone help me  power on bluetooth on a dell mini 9
[03:01] <jrib> truebosko: pastebin exactly what you are doing and your sources.list
[03:01] <JairunCaloth> anywho, my macbook has a broadcom wifi, and it's doing the same thing. Excpept that it completely hard locks after a few min of connecting and disconnecting
[03:01] <IRCcop> JairunCaloth ath_pci 109168 0 wlan 234784 1 ath_pci ath_hal 225904 1 ath_pci
[03:01] <jrib> !tab | King
[03:01] <truebosko> jrib: I am just opening a .deb package
[03:01] <KillerOrca> sleepercivic88 did you check this link? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:01] <JairunCaloth> ok IRCcop: you're useing the older proprietary driver
[03:02] <jrib> truebosko: of?
[03:02] <Frijolie> how do you use the LiveCD to copy over system files while retaining your separate /home partition.
[03:02] <truebosko> It's setup for Ubuntu 7.10 though .. so :(
[03:02] <JairunCaloth> IRCcop: same one as me
[03:02] <rootrot> hi i installed kubuntu then used aptitude to remove kubuntu-desktop and installed ubuntu-desktop and now im missing all kinds of programs. how dfo i fix this? im mising everything that was under menu=>system tools
[03:02] <truebosko> jrib: Scheme
[03:02] <IRCcop> JairunCaloth  so what do I do
[03:02] <JairunCaloth> IRCcop: what are you trying to do?
[03:02] <jrib> truebosko: scheme is in the repositories
[03:02] <IRCcop> JairunCaloth try to make it work
[03:02] <King> !tab | jrib like this
[03:03] <IRCcop>  JairunCaloth by any method
[03:03] <JairunCaloth> IRCcop: that's the same reason I came here :-p
[03:03] <truebosko> jrib: yah thanks, I just found that out .. heh :)
[03:03] <King> jrib: like this
[03:03] <jrib> King: exactly :)
[03:03] <King> second one?
[03:03] <jrib> King: yes
[03:03] <King> k im learning
[03:03] <King> thanx for being patient
[03:03] <qowao> hey where would i put scripts
[03:03] <qowao> like batch files in win
[03:03] <qowao> is there some path var too?
[03:03] <h00k> (Everyone's out of KDE and kopete chans, kubuntu doesn't know): Kopete can see my webcam, configure it, contacts cannot see that I have one, any ideas,anyone?  Also, On campus (no ports blocked, etc)
[03:03] <jrib> qowao: wherever you want them?
[03:04] <IRCcop>  Ok guys This is a big issue pls help, what is the point of having ubuntu in a laptop if I can only use wired connections
[03:04] <jrib> !enter | qowao
[03:04] <qowao> jrib: but wanna run them from aLT f2 for instance
[03:04] <asteroid> nobody have feedback about ATI chipset integrated sound card ?
[03:04] <jrib> qowao: drop them in ~/bin
[03:04] <Maltor124> danbhfive: menu.lst looks to be blank
[03:04] <qowao> ok jrib
[03:04] <danbhfive> IRCcop: you could try installing intrepid
[03:04] <qowao> another thing. how would i make a batch in ubuntu?
[03:04] <danbhfive> Maltor124: in the help doc, what did the find command report?
[03:05] <IRCcop> danbhfive  how do you install intrepid ?
[03:05] <Maltor124> !grub
[03:05] <jrib> qowao: you may need to log in again if it's the first time you create ~/bin.  You should google "bash script".  Basically, create a files with "#!/bin/sh" as the first line and then list commands
[03:05] <qowao> thx jrib
[03:05] <danbhfive> IRCcop: I think its update-manager -c
[03:05] <King> jrib: thanx it worked
[03:05] <IRCcop> danbhfive on the terminal?
[03:05] <danbhfive> ya
[03:05] <heinrich> Hmm anyone tried installing a 8800gts 512 or asus sound card for ubuntu? =S
[03:06] <JairunCaloth> IRCcop: From what I understand you should theoreticly be able to use the newer open source drivers by installing ubuntu-restricted-modules. I think that's only for 7.10 and above
[03:06] <qowao> jrib: if ubuntu finds a bin in my ~ then it searches for scripts there when i type stuff in the ALT F2?
[03:06] <IRCcop> danbhfive  it did launch the update manager
[03:06] <jrib> qowao: no, but in ~/bin it would (~/bin is automatically added to your PATH by ~/.profile)
[03:07] <qowao> ok jrib
[03:07] <scunizi> jrib or is is ~/.bin?
[03:07] <IRCcop> danbhfive  it only says system is uptodate
[03:07] <JairunCaloth> I had trouble with the module in 8.10, so I rolled back to useing the old schol driver that you have as well
[03:07] <qowao> which is it
[03:07] <Maltor124> danbhfive: find reported (hd 0,0)
[03:07] <jrib> scunizi: ~/bin is the default location in ~/.profile
[03:07] <qowao> imma look in the .profiel quick
[03:07] <DasEi> ﻿ heinrich: running ibex ?
[03:07] <scunizi> k
[03:07] <scopecreep> whatever the latest kernel patch did fixed my wifi i think
[03:07] <scopecreep> or it was an effective placebo
[03:07] <qowao> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[03:07] <qowao> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[03:07] <qowao> fi
[03:07] <qowao> from the .profile
[03:08] <qowao> thx interesting
[03:08] <sleepercivic88> well thanks for your help i got to go
[03:08] <heinrich> Anyone plz i need help! I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my stationary computer with a nvidia 8800gts and it stopped at "BusyBox" what's that? =S
[03:08] <danbhfive> Maltor124: crazy, and you have no menu.lst in /boot/grub/?   I dunno.  Im probably the wrong person to ask.  I always ended up reinstalling to fix grub errors, and that was ok since I have a separate /home
[03:08] <heinrich> it wont start x-server...
[03:08] <DasEi> heinrich:problem with initramfs
[03:08] <DasEi> *problem
[03:08] <heinrich> initramfs?
[03:09] <qowao> shebang
[03:09] <qowao> shebang
[03:09] <heinrich> DasEi never heard of
[03:09] <Maltor124> danbhfive: Ok, thanks
[03:09] <heinrich> DasEi but you are right^^
[03:09] <JairunCaloth> IRCcop: you may find some info here useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[03:09] <Dominik2> please help printing .gif with transparent background, I have just attempted to do just that with a newly installed printer, ubuntu did all the printer installing most exelently however when I printed this .gif with a transparent background the printer spit out a completly black page
[03:09] <heinrich> DasEi I just dont know what it is^^ Yet...
[03:10] <\Kira> Whats a command that can add a user to a group, without creating a new group or user or changing the users main group?
[03:11] <rootrot> is 8.10 the newest relese?
[03:11] <tritium> yes
[03:11] <\Kira> rootrot: yes
[03:11] <DasEi> heinrich:have a live cd handy ? one drive only ?
[03:11] <lu31415> any chance 8.10 has better ati support?
[03:11] <DasEi> rootrot: yes
[03:11] <heinrich> DasEi perhaps changing from ide to ahci will fix it?
[03:11] <scunizi> Dominik2, flatten the image
[03:12] <DasEi> heinrich:could try, does the live cd boot ?
[03:12] <heinrich> DasEi regular 8.04 Lts
[03:12] <heinrich> 32bit version
[03:12] <DasEi> heinrich: does the live cd boot ?
[03:13] <heinrich> DasEi yes...
[03:13] <heinrich> DasEi boots too i get to the ubuntu screen then BusyBox appears.
[03:13] <DasEi> heinrich: you are in live now or on another system ?
[03:14] <DasEi> heinrich: so it does not boot to desktop, then
[03:14] <heinrich> DasEi I'm on another computer..^^
[03:15] <heinrich> DasEi got 3 computers so alot of backups;)
[03:15] <Dominik2> scunizi: what do you mean?
[03:15] <van> hi everybody. strange thing happened: I've got no audio in Hardy. Yesterday I just installed ubuntu-restricted-packages and avant-window-navigator. The strange thing's that I reinstalled Hardy in a clean partition and i still got no sound!
[03:15] <DasEi> heinrich: did you check the installers cd for defects (a option from the boot menu like install or memcheck ) ?
[03:15] <vasilisa> my little brother cant get wireless working. He's going to torrent XP and give up on linux if he cant. Help me save him, please :(
[03:15] <heinrich> DasEi can't seem to find the answer on google...
[03:15] <tha_toadman> anyone here familiar with NUT???
[03:15] <heinrich> DasEi yepp, works like a charm.
[03:15] <van> I tried Ibex live cd and sound's there all right. But the cd'sbroken. And i just don't want to abandon Hardy anyway
[03:15] <Dominik2> vasilisa: is he hooked up to a active internet connection?
[03:16] <vasilisa> Dominik2: He successfuly connected by wire, but he wants the wireless to run.
[03:16] <cishpix> please help me, I'm confused. in my user table haven't data, what should I do? I just can connect mysql with --skip-grant-tables
[03:16] <DasEi> heinrich: what a computer is it you tried to install to ?
[03:16] <heinrich> oh.....wait a sec..
[03:16] <_2>     what is the best command to tell if i disk has a fileystem on it ?    fsck ?
[03:16] <heinrich> DasEi alot of info
[03:16] <WebcamWonder> _2, fdisk -l
[03:16] <heinrich> DasEi stationary computer with my own choosen components=S
[03:16] <Dominik2> vasilisa: the reason why i was asking is because I had the same problem untill I hooked up to the internet, updated linux, and then downloaded the drivers
[03:17] <DasEi> _2: fdisk- l   or ls *
[03:17] <_2> WebcamWonder not a partition  i know it has none of those
[03:17] <lakitu> what's a good graphical directory comparer for ubuntu?
[03:17] <_2> DasEi see above
[03:17] <cishpix> please help me, I'm confused. in my user table haven't data, what should I do? I just can connect mysql with --skip-grant-tables
[03:17] <vasilisa> Dominik2: Their wireless is hooked up, we did update, and we used wcutter to acquire the drivers from broadcom
[03:17] <WebcamWonder> _2, You want to know whether a disk has file system or not, without checking the partition tables?
[03:17] <danbhfive> \Kira: gpasswd -a $USER $GROUP                   or              usermod -a -G $GROUP $USER          be careful with usermod to not forget the -a
[03:18] <aurynn> if I download an 8.10 ISO, can I upgrade my 8.04 from that?
[03:18] <tha_toadman> anyone here use NUT?
[03:18] <_2> WebcamWonder it doesn't have a partition  nor a partition table.   i just want to check for a filesystem
[03:18] <\Kira> danbhfive: thanks
[03:18] <WebcamWonder> _2, *bummer*
[03:18] <heinrich> DasEi p35-ds4 core2duo 6850 x3 sata 500 disc's pny 8800gts asus Xonar d2 sound card...that's about it=P
[03:18] <danbhfive> aurynn: is it livecd or alternate?
[03:18] <zetharx> i am trying to share a directory on my filesystem with my virtualbox windows installation, but with no luck.  where can i get [useful] information about virtualbox?
[03:18] <aurynn> danbhfive, whichever works.
[03:18] <heinrich> oh and 4GB ram...
[03:18] <rambo298> anyone know what dir php.ini is in?
[03:18] <Dominik2> vasilisa: does the connection show up under if you type: sudo lshw -C network
[03:19] <danbhfive> !upgrade > aurynn  alternate
[03:19] <_2> WebcamWonder besides looking at the partition table on any disk, says nothing about whether or not it has any filesystems on it.
[03:19] <van> zetharx: have u installed the additions on the guest operating system? I think you need them
[03:20] <[fields]> I am trying to install ubuntu latest release for the first time, alongside windows.  It has been hanging on the partition resize for 15 minutes now, at 0%.  What should I do?
[03:20] <vasilisa> Dominik2: hang on a sec...
[03:20] <tha_toadman> rambo298: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini - for me...not sure if your using 4 or 5
[03:20] <DasEi> heinrich: you then should try the alternate 64 bit installer and google for bootoptions, like no ahci,nolapic and so on
[03:20] <zetharx> van: yea, i have
[03:20] <rambo298> tha_toadman: 5 ... txs
[03:20] <vasilisa> Dominik2: it gave us a lot... what am i lookijng for
[03:20] <aurynn> danbhfive, thank you :)
[03:20] <tha_toadman> rambo298: n/p
[03:20] <heinrich> DasEi Ah, found the problem.
[03:20] <mneptok> Cajun_Tech: it's per system
[03:20] <Dominik2> vasilisa: looking for a connection that you would identifiy with wireless
[03:20] <DasEi> heinrich: so ?
[03:21] <_2> WebcamWonder http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/12501 example.
[03:21] <vasilisa> ?pastebin
[03:21] <vasilisa> !pastebin
[03:21] <toastedmilk> I'm trying to access this: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/courses/PythonAB/ and I can't connect, although I was there last night.  Can anyone here confirm or deny this server being up and if it is can someone tell me why possibly it wouldn't be working?
[03:21] <[fields]> I am trying to install ubuntu latest release for the first time, alongside windows.  It has been stuck on the partition resize for 15 minutes now, at 0%.  What should I do?
[03:21] <heinrich> DasEi forgot about raid^^
[03:21] <Dominik2> vasilisa: in my case   *-network:0
[03:21] <Dominik2>        description: Wireless interface
[03:21] <[fields]> toastedmilk: worked for me
[03:21] <vasilisa> Dominik2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67694/
[03:21] <vasilisa> i dunno how to read that
[03:21] <DasEi> heinrich: hardware raid ?
[03:21] <heinrich> DasEi Mhm...
[03:22] <[fields]> should a partition resize remain at 0% for longer than 15 or 20mins?
[03:22] <[fields]> could somebody please respond?
[03:22] <WebcamWonder> _2, try -v for verbose output
[03:22] <toastedmilk> [fields]: you're on windows, so you wouldn't be able to help me with debug.  for partioning ubuntu with windows check: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/windows/C/
[03:22] <Cajun_Tech> mneptok: that seems kind of high.  For example, I currently work at a school with about 150 computers. It's at private school with a pretty small technology budget.
[03:22] <qbmaniac> anyway to restart HAL?
[03:22] <_2> WebcamWonder on which command ?
[03:22] <Dominik2> vasilisa: do you have the wireless manager in your taskbar (next to your time)?
[03:23] <heinrich> DasEi well then, only the graphics and sound left then=)
[03:23] <WebcamWonder> _2, e2fsck... Although, if I remember, it is not recommended running e2fsck on an ext3
[03:23] <[fields]> toastedmilk:  ubuntu hasn't even installed yet
[03:23] <heinrich> DasEi any known troubles installing a 8800gts?^^
[03:23] <vasilisa> Dominik2: The network manager is, no wireless manager
[03:24] <DasEi> heinrich:its supported by ubuntu, and as far as I know, the nvidia driver installs fine on hardy, too, for the sound use alsa
[03:24] <scunizi> Dominik2, load the image in gimp and then save it as a png or jpg
[03:24] <Dominik2> vasilisa: click on it and tell me what you see, I see two categories: Wired Network (under which I see nothing) and then Wireless Network (under which I see a bunch of access points)
[03:24] <Dominik2> scunizi: thx
[03:24] <heinrich> DasEi alsa for asus soundcard? hmm, oki
[03:24] <_2> WebcamWonder wait what about tune2fs -l
[03:25] <mneptok> Cajun_Tech: there are both volume and educational discounts available. each contract covers 1 year or 10 cases, whichever comes first. support from Microsoft is a minimum of $60 per case. we're more than competetive.
[03:25] <scunizi> Dominik2, np.. most printers won't handle a pic with an alpha channel.. flattening the image effectively get's rid of the alpha channel
[03:25] <DasEi> heinrich:can you boot into live now ? first thing to get through
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> _2, List the contents of a filesystem superblock? Don't know how that is going to help you
[03:25] <vasilisa> Dominik2: wlan0 and eth0...?
[03:26] <DasEi> !alsa>heinrich
[03:26] <geeksquad> does anybody know of a good simple bash scripting tutorial for ubuntu
[03:26] <heinrich> DasEi I'm not in live, I've installed it and is now booting without cd^^
[03:26] <Dominik2> vasilisa can you take a screen shot?
[03:26] <vasilisa> Dominik2: No categories
[03:26] <_2> WebcamWonder cause it will error out if there is not an ext# fs on the device.   that's how.
[03:26] <vasilisa> Dominik2: Im communicating with him over AIM, lol
[03:26] <WebcamWonder> _2, Don't know. Never tried. That is wayy out of my league :)
[03:26] <heinrich> DasEi hmm thnx good to know
[03:26] <DasEi> heinrich:booting to initram or desktop ?
[03:26] <heinrich> DasEi desktop
[03:27] <_2> WebcamWonder well,  let me just say thanks for letting me talk my way through it with you....   :)
[03:27] <IRCcop>  JairunCaloth u there?
[03:27] <DasEi> !nvidia>heinrich
[03:27] <vasilisa> Dominik2: I dont think its the same program. i think he's using knetworkmanager
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> _2, Did it work? Nice :)
[03:27] <Flare183> Good Night Everyone
[03:27] <_2> WebcamWonder yeah  it works.
[03:27] <freshsta42> can anyone help me connect to my bluetooth
[03:27] <heinrich> DasEi only used ubuntu for about two weeks now but I guess I'm still a quick learner=)
[03:27] <DasEi> heinrich:so first update the whole system...
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> _2, I learnt something new :)
[03:28] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Can you see wlan0 detected by Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Dominik2> vasilisa: when did he install what version of ubuntu and what modifications has he made?
[03:28] <vasilisa> Dominik2: Yesterday, it was Hardy, he did a version upgrade to Ibex.... thats it
[03:28] <heinrich> DasEi I'm way ahead=) update almost done.
[03:28] <Zackfett> does anyone know any ftps i can connect to through my pc's network?
[03:28] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: well.. i mean, its in that program.
[03:28] <Frijolie> what's the best way to install a minimial install of Ubuntu?
[03:29] <Frijolie> er minimal install
[03:29] <usser> Frijolie, get a server cd and install base
[03:29] <Zackfett> i know one
[03:29] <freshsta42> any help with bluetooth...please?
[03:29] <Cajun_Tech> mneptok: That's true. I've been watching Linux for several years now, and Ubuntu is finally to a point that I can see it Linux working for "everyday users"
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, If your on intrepid, you would have the latest Network Manager, can you see your network while you are trying to connect to an AP?
[03:29] <usser> Frijolie, its gonna ask you for the server role at some point just choose nothing and you'll end up with a very basic installation
[03:29] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: whats an AP
[03:29] <heinrich> DasEi Hmm restricted drivers? according to what I'm reading here it's most likely old drivers and I should install drivers from Nvidias homepage instead?
[03:29] <h00k> vasilisa: Access Point
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Access Point: routers, etc.
[03:30] <Frijolie> usser: does it have GUI?
[03:30] <Dominik2> vasilisa: access point
[03:30] <DasEi> Zackfett:http://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/
[03:30] <m0z_work> meheh.. who's keeping an eye on the US elections?
[03:30] <usser> Frijolie, no just console
[03:30] <Zackfett> does anyone know of any sites so i can create a online FTP
[03:30] <Zackfett> thanks
[03:30] <h00k> m0z_work: I am :)
[03:30] <Dominik2> m0z_work: me
[03:30] <geeksquad> Zackfett:
[03:30] <vasilisa> Okay guys, he found "eth0 connected" and "lan0 disconnected"
[03:30] <Frijolie> usser: is there a minimal GNOME package?
[03:30] <vasilisa> deactivated even
[03:30] <geeksquad> me obama is winnig yay
[03:30] <vasilisa> but he cant activate it
[03:30] <usser> Frijolie, nope gnome is pretty bloated
[03:30] <Dominik2> m0z_work: not happy with whats happening?
[03:31] <Frijolie> usser: a ubuntu branded GNOME is bloated
[03:31] <usser> Frijolie, but there are alternative like xfce or if u want something faster lxde
[03:31] <DasEi> heinrich:this a question belonging in the churches... I'd use the Drivers from Nvidia
[03:31] <freedom> how can i make firefox report my os as windows? i thought there was a way to do that
[03:31] <Frijolie> usser: that's what I'm trying to avoid...KDE is 1,000x worse
[03:31] <usser> Frijolie, gnome is bloated as is
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> freedom, User Agent Switcher addon
[03:31] <Dominik2> freedom: its a plugin
[03:31] <h00k> freedom: User Agent switcher
[03:31] <h00k> ah, WebcamWonder, you beat me
[03:31] <freedom> thanks
[03:31] <deftone> o.k i've followed just about every forum post on custom grub backgrounds and they don't work when i create them...the background looks horrible and choppy and colors are all messed up....Am I missing something?
[03:31] <Frijolie> geeksquad: Obama is winning on a landslide! That's a good thing!
[03:32] <_2> Frijolie xfce4
[03:32] <heinrich> DasEi are there any easy ways to write to the same person? I'm just manually typing your name in front of the thing I wanna say right now=P Not a irc fan, started this today=P
[03:32] <geeksquad> i know
[03:32] <x1250> when is #ubuntu+1 coming back?
[03:32] <WebcamWonder> !tab | heinrich
[03:32] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: It says lan0 is deactivated, but eth0 is activated.
[03:32] <Frijolie> usser: I dig on GNOME, just not the ubuntu bloat. Can you get a base install of GNOME?
[03:32] <DasEi> !tab>heinrich
[03:32] <slinkeey> Yes it is good that he is winning.. I don't want my house torched in the riots if he was to lose...
[03:32] <Frijolie> _2: I don't want XFCE
[03:32] <geeksquad> because he is 207 and mcain is 127
[03:32] <Dominik2> Frijolie: not if you earn billions of dollers a year, then its bad for you, cause youll earn 5 million less :(
[03:32] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Can you do a > ifconfig | grep wlan
[03:32] <heinrich> DasEi: hmm still learning Linux language system.
[03:32] <slinkeey> I don't want my car vandalized either..
[03:33] <heinrich> I should buy a manual...
[03:33] <DasEi> heinrich:you can also copy n paste from/to messenger, using pidgin ?
[03:33] <_2> Frijolie twm, blackbox, fluxbox, icewm, or about 10 others to choose from.
[03:33] <heinrich> oki
[03:33] <h00k> heinrich: you can, also we're quite helpful here and on ubuntuforums.org
[03:33] <heinrich> DasEi: oki
[03:33] <usser> Frijolie, not that i know, you'll pretty much have to go and pick the gnome packages u want manually
[03:33] <Frijolie> Dominik2: yeah, boo hoo to those wealthy elite. I feel sorry they make amounts of magnitudes more so they should owe more
[03:33] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:a5:89:1a:28
[03:33] <DasEi> heinrich:u sing pidgin ?
[03:33] <usser> Frijolie, its a tedious task
[03:33] <heinrich> h00k: Thnx=)
[03:33] <Frijolie> _2: I'm already sold on GNOME
[03:33] <heinrich> DasEi: Yeah
[03:33] <h00k> heinrich: no problem.
[03:33] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, That means you have a wireless card configured on "wlan0"
[03:34] <geeksquad> does anybody know of a good bash scripting tutorial
[03:34] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Do a > sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:34] <andresj1> how do i change the volume mount point of a drive that is not mounted? this is, according to when u right click on a drive and go to Volume tab.
[03:34] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: ok...
[03:34] <Frijolie> usser: Hmm, so it may not be any better than installing ubuntu-desktop then spend 2 hours purging 3/4ths the packages ubuntu piles on..
[03:34] <DasEi> heinrich:ctrl and arrow up brings your last message (and so the nick in front) back
[03:34] <_2> Frijolie well i feel sorry for you, but i can't help you then.   :)
[03:34] <usser> Frijolie, yep pretty much the same
[03:34] <heinrich> DasEi: Haha, I feel like I'm back in school=P
[03:34] <geeksquad> does anybody know of a good bash scripting tutorial
[03:34] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: "no scan results"
[03:35] <Frijolie> _2: no need to feel sorry, well other than the extra time I'm going to spend removing packages from the default install
[03:35] <Frijolie> usser: d'oh!
[03:35] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Are you near your wireless router?
[03:35] <geeksquad> i am in school well i was
[03:35] <geeksquad> at 1:00
[03:35] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: In windows, he was able to connect
[03:35] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: he's currently directly connected to it
[03:35] <_2> Frijolie only install the part you want.    apt-cache search gnome | less     and look for gnome-base or the likes.
[03:35] <DasEi> heinrich:middle mouse copies a marked text from the dialog-field, also there is #pidgin and #freenode for irc-related quests
[03:35] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: by wire
[03:35] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Is this a laptop?
[03:35] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: Yes
[03:36] <Frijolie> Al Franken is even winning in MN
[03:36] <m0z_work> h00k and Dominik2 - are ya both American?
[03:36] <geeksquad> does anybody know of a good bash scripting tutorial?????????????????????????????
[03:36] <geeksquad> well i am
[03:36] <h00k> m0z_work: yes, I am
[03:36] <m0z_work> ah cool
[03:36] <Cajun_Tech> Does anyone have any suggestions on webcams? I've got two different Creative USB webcams.  Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't seem to recognize either one.  Is there a way to get them working, or am I better of buying another one?
[03:37] <Ward_> how can i get my audigy 2 to work? and its front panel
[03:37] <m0z_work> http://i33.tinypic.com/zx6yi8.jpg
[03:37] <m0z_work> :p
[03:37] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Well, it seems as though the drivers aren't properly configured/supported
[03:37] <geeksquad> ask WebcamWonder Cajun_tech
[03:37] <OddlotX4> For anyone who's can't be at the watch for the current status of the elections, it's at 207-135.
[03:37] <m0z_work> i just hope he wins it :]
[03:37] <WebcamWonder> geeksquad, ?
[03:37] <DasEi> !hw|Cajun_Tech
[03:37] <geeksquad> look at your nickname
[03:37] <WebcamWonder> !webcam
[03:37] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: He's using broadcom. i followed the instructions here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[03:37] <Frijolie> geeksquad: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/advanced_bash_scripting_guide/
[03:37] <Cajun_Tech> DasEi: ?
[03:38] <h00k> geeksquad: Google is your friend ;)
[03:38] <heinrich> DasEi: ok ok, I'll learn more as I go=) I feel bad for you manually writing to me=P
[03:38] <coreyu> ?
[03:38] <WebcamWonder> geeksquad, Haha, now I notice :). I don't even own a webcam
[03:38] <slinkeey> Some Silver Linings of an Obama Win!
[03:38] <slinkeey> 7. The chance of my house getting torched tomorrow should be less probable.
[03:38] <slinkeey> 8. The chance of my car getting vandalized tomorrow should be less probable.
[03:38] <DasEi> heinrich: first walk, then run .. np
[03:38] <Cajun_Tech> bash: !webcam: event not found
[03:38] <slinkeey> YAY!!
[03:38] <h00k> !flood | slinkeey
[03:38] <WebcamWonder> !webcam | Cajun_Tech
[03:39] <DasEi> !hardware|Cajun_Tech
[03:39] <ionstorm66> i have a wierd problem with my sell
[03:39] <Tetracomm> To stop the network connection I would type /etc/init.d/networking stop, right?
[03:39] <coreyu> year
[03:39] <geeksquad> h00k google says the same thing  Frijolie said witch is advanced
[03:39] <King> what is a good app to partition external harddrives so i can try different distros of linux
[03:39] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, I use the b43 supported card as well. However, I installed the b43-fwcutter package from the repos to get my wireless card working. I believe it does the same thing, but by manually compiling. I have no experience with that
[03:39] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: we used the repo one
[03:39] <van> I've got no audio in Hardy. Anyone think that ubuntu-restricted-packages could have broken it?  If so, how can I remove all those packages (apt-get remove ubuntu-packages-restricted just removes the dummy)
[03:39] <node357> King, gparted
[03:40] <vasilisa> i may have used the wrong firmware though? i picked the one for the latest linux kernel
[03:40] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, b43-fwcutter ?
[03:40] <heinrich> DasEi: I think I've got most of it covered=)
[03:40] <DasEi> King: gparted or the Installers partioner's
[03:40] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: yes
[03:40] <ionstorm66> if im logged in via ssh as a supersuser and i hit home i goto the begening of the line
[03:40] <RickZilla> How can I get a DVD to open with MPlayer instead of Totem?
[03:40] <heinrich> DasEi: hmm stop x server then install...
[03:40] <Frijolie> geeksquad: it's not really advanced. It's worked for me and I'm a noob when it comes to scripting
[03:41] <geeksquad> well i had one but i forgot where and in that oneit's simple to understand
[03:41] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I am having problems with video playing. The colours are too saturated and I haven't touched the video settings of any of the players. The problem is player independent. How do I get the video back to their normal colours? Thanks
[03:41] <Zackfett> how am i supposed to get this stupid java install to work?
[03:41] <RHorse> RickZilla, default applications setup in configuration
[03:41] <heinrich> DasEi: How do I stop X-server when I'm using it?=P
[03:42] <DasEi> heinrich: copy the installer smw, like /usr/src, then : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop             (logs you off!)
[03:42] <pprt> Hi, can anyone offer some advice on getting NTFS 3g working? The "enable write support for internal device" checkbox is disabled (greyed out)
[03:42] <DasEi> !java>Zackfett
[03:42] <slinkeey> 9. The chance of getting shot by the Black Panthers will be less probable if Obama wins! :)
[03:43] <coreyu> so
[03:43] <van> RickZilla: under system preferences or administration you should find on that does the trick
[03:43] <slinkeey> WHOO!!
[03:43] <Frijolie> slinkeey: stop spamming!
[03:43] <heinrich> DasEi: hmm ok
[03:43] <Frijolie> !offtopic>slinkeey
[03:43] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, To find out if you are using a broadcom card > lspci | grep Broadcom
[03:43] <slinkeey> Spamming....  I am conversing...
[03:43] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, Sorry for the delays, I am preparing to leave, but want to help you before I do :)
[03:43] <geeksquad> Zackfett go to ADD/REmove and search for the name of your distributation (ubuntu,kubuntu etc
[03:43] <Frijolie> !offtopic
[03:44] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: yeah we already checked that one :)
[03:44] <King> how many partitions on one drive
[03:44] <DasEi> heinrich: you know how to star the installer ?
[03:45] <coreyu> 你好
[03:45] <DasEi> *sttart
[03:45] <Frijolie> can one get Amarok without all that KDE garbage with it?
[03:45] <heinrich> DasEi: I just found out=)
[03:45] <vasilisa> Frijolie: amaroK
[03:45] <King> how many partitions on one drive can u have per say
[03:45] <pprt> king: just the Windows and Ubuntu ones
[03:45] <geeksquad> guys if you know of a EASY and SIMPLE to understand bash scripting tutorial pm me cause i will be on #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:45] <DasEi> !sudo >heinrich:
[03:45] <heinrich> DasEi: Hmm "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel"
[03:45] <geeksquad> !sudo >heinrich
[03:45] <Doji> Frijolie: you can try Exaile
[03:46] <heinrich> DasEi:  Now...what does that mean? =S
[03:46] <m0z_work> any of you on here use digg?
[03:46] <Tetracomm> To stop the network connection I would type /etc/init.d/networking stop, right?
[03:46] <Tetracomm> Yes, m0z_work.
[03:46] <King> pprt: i want to install two different linux on a 250g hard drive so the will boot like a live cd
[03:46] <heinrich> DasEi: Hmm, I only used sudo^^
[03:47] <King> but the one i chose when i chose
[03:47] <DasEi> KIng: 4 primary partis per disc, but also they can be extended, so lots of them inside themselves
[03:47] <King> DasEi:  to booting two os from one hard drive is possible
[03:47] <toresn> how do i disable pulseaudio in intrepid?
[03:48] <DasEi> KIng: yup, got 4 on one :)
[03:48] <van> King: what linuxes are you planning to install?
[03:48] <WebcamWonder> vasilisa, *bummer* don't know, why it is returning no wireless networks. You sure the physical switch for wireless is not turned off?
[03:48] <Guma> I installed gcc and g++ but when I try to build simple C program I get error message "error: ‘atoi’ was not declared in this scope"
[03:48] <DasEi> heinrich: not particulary sure on nvidia, could try :
[03:48] <Guma> what package do I need to install?
[03:48] <vasilisa> WebcamWonder: nah, its on :)
[03:49] <WebcamWonder> Guma, build-essentials, look into it
[03:49] <King> is 20g for os and app enough space if i use 40 for 2 linux and 210 for storage
[03:49] <VonGuard> my acer aspire one was working well on ibex, but suddenly, it's not finishing network connections. The little bar has 2 green lights, and never gets further. Same on wireless and ethernet
[03:49] <DasEi> heinrich: sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:49] <Guma> WebcamWonder Thanx
[03:49] <omshanti> i have a weird glitch where everything is shaded an ugly pastel color.  i already tried rebooting the computer.
[03:49] <danbhfive> King is your /home separate?
[03:49] <wacky> I first noticed the problem when I went to the previous release, however I just went to 8.10 and the problem still exists.. When I try and view an avi file with mplayer.. it loads the first frame and then freezes only showing the frame.. if I fastforward I Can get to a new frame but it just sits at the fram and doesnt play the file.. any ideas? I have tried gstreamer-properties with no luck
[03:49] <wacky> it very well may be related to non avi as well
[03:50] <RickZilla> How can I get a DVD to open with MPlayer instead of Totem?
[03:50] <Pelo> omshanti, got compiz or metacity compositing turned on ? try turning them off
[03:50] <King> van: phluk and gentoo
[03:50] <van> King: it sounds reasonable to me
[03:50] <DasEi> King: why not
[03:50] <omshanti> Pelo, how do i investigate/fix that issue?
[03:50] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my ubuntu 8.04 boxs
[03:50] <toresn> RickZilla: i'd use ogle instead of mplayer for dvd playback
[03:51] <Pelo> omshanti, right cilck the desktop , chagne wallpaper,  last tab , turn off desktop effects if you have them on
[03:51] <King> know i my storage to be rwx by windows box
[03:51] <van> King: Ok. Don't know them myself. But you should make one partition for /home, and one for each OS. Unless they have a frugal install option, in which case you can often install more than one in each partition
[03:51] <heinrich> DasEi: bah install is not working too good=P
[03:51] <omshanti> still pink
[03:51] <Guma> WebcamWonder - I just installed what you suggested and still the same problem
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> RickZilla, Open nautilus, Edit -> Preferences -> Media... Change it there. Also look in System -> Preference -> Preferred Apps
[03:52] <WebcamWonder> Guma, What is the error you get?
[03:52] <Pelo> omshanti, for metacity compositing,   open a terminal type gconf-editor,  under app / metacity / general / compositing manager
[03:52] <Cluber> how do you stop these gay system error sounds?
[03:52] <heinrich> DasEi: something about libc not being installed
[03:52] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my ubuntu 8.04 boxs internet connection with my xbox 360 with firestarter. the thing is i want to give all the connections that come from and go to my xbox 360 high priority (QoS) so that i dont lag. Can anyone help me out on how i can make all the connections that come from and go to my 360 get the highest priority possible. (my 360 is always connected to the same ehernet card and always has the same ip. Thanks
[03:52] <van> King: If what u r looking for is running one of the OS the same way as they run from the CD, i.e. from RAM, you can do that too
[03:52] <RickZilla> toresn:  Thanks...MPlayer actually plays my dvd's correctly, something that Totem couldn't
[03:52] <RickZilla> WebcamWonder:  Thanks
[03:52] <Guma> WebcamWonder error: ‘atoi’ was not declared in this scope
[03:52] <Pelo> omshanti, also consider that your monitor might be on it's last legs
[03:53] <van> King: in some linux distributions its very easy, in others you have to know which option to pass to the kernel
[03:53] <King> yea want them to run like live cd but save my settings
[03:53] <dazvid> Hi guys, quick question about linking libopenal.so.0 to libopenal.so.1. Is it possible to run a program that depends on libopenal.so.0 with libopenal.so.1 ?
[03:53] <King> or what ever changes i made to the os in general
[03:53] <omshanti> :<
[03:54] <van> King: well...  i think it's a better idea to have a 20 gb partition for each OS. Unless you're not gonna use the system much
[03:54] <WebcamWonder> Guma, Is it a hello world application? or something more complex?
[03:54] <fonzarelli> dazvid: i bet linking would work
[03:54] <Guma> WebcamWonder I can't even man atoi
[03:54] <DasEi> heinrich: as I told you, next to churches I'm no specialist in that, try to find the packet : apt-cache search libc*
[03:54] <IRCcop> help! with atheros wireless
[03:54] <WebcamWonder> Guma, atoi is a function that converts a string into an integer
[03:54] <King> 20g should be enough for app don't ya think
[03:54] <Guma> something more complex. I can try to do my own simple app. Let me try that
[03:54] <Pelo> !wifi | IRCcop
[03:55] <VonGuard> gah
[03:55] <kitche> heinrich: install build-essential and it will install libc6-dev
[03:55] <heinrich> DasEi: Somthing about 9402 hits when i searched for libc^^
[03:55] <dazvid> fonzarelli, i think i created a link using "ln /usr/lib32/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib32/libopenal.so.0", alas the program still reports the missing lib
[03:55] <VonGuard> my whole network stack is messed up. something awful has happened
[03:55] <IRCcop> ubottu I already check that no help
[03:55] <fonzarelli> dazvid: ln -s
[03:55] <Cameron> is there any way to make the compiz application switcher show on the screen where the mouse is.. it seems to show on the screen of the focused window..  usually I am looking where the mouse is
[03:55] <dazvid> fonzarelli, oh thanks :)
[03:55] <Frijolie> Doji: I've tried Exaile and didn't really like it. I've settled on Rhythmbox unfortunately because it isn't much better really
[03:55] <VonGuard> plei am screwed
[03:56] <VonGuard> so screwed, does anyone know of weird ibex networking issues?
[03:56] <King> that was phlak and gentoo typo lol
[03:56] <RHorse> Frijolie, QuodLibet.
[03:56] <IRCcop> !info atheros
[03:56] <DasEi> heinrich: ask for someone with a new nvidia here, or use the (older) driver option of ubuntu - or, at your own risk, try envyNG;;; backup xorg.conf before
[03:56] <van> how can i find out what ubuntu-packages-restricted meta-package installed? (in order to remove everyting)
[03:56] <DasEi> !envyNG
[03:56] <Pelo> IRCcop, atheros is hardware as far as I know , not a package  but you might want to look in synaptic,
[03:57] <danbhfive> van apt-cache show
[03:57] <omshanti> ok it's not my monitor because it doesn't affect the startup screen.  probably some bug due to an update
[03:57] <dazvid> fonzarelli, unfortunately linking did not solve my problem. Any other suggestions i could follow up?
[03:57] <van> i try that danbhfive, thanks
[03:57] <Pelo> g'night folks ,
[03:57] <Tcha> hi
[03:58] <Frijolie> RHorse: huh?
[03:58] <heinrich> DasEi: oki Found something and tried it. It installed the nvidia drivers now but no picture when i tried starting x-server, perhaps i have to arm nvidia for x-server...hmm
[03:58] <heinrich> DasEi:  Looking into it=)
[03:58] <Tcha> I have big problems with the boot of my computer
[03:58] <fonzarelli> dazvid: what ap are you trying to run?
[03:58] <fonzarelli> app*
[03:58] <dazvid> ioquake
[03:58] <Tcha> can somebody help ? I have an error 16 on Grub, and cannot fix it
[03:58] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my ubuntu 8.04 boxs internet connection with my xbox 360 with firestarter. the thing is i want to give all the connections that come from and go to my xbox 360 high priority (QoS) so that i dont lag. Can anyone help me out on how i can make all the connections that come from and go to my 360 get the highest priority possible. (my 360 is always connected to the same ehernet card and always has the same ip. Thanks
[03:59] <dazvid> ioquake3 more specifically fonzarelli
[03:59] <qowao> hey Tcha hold on somebody gave me an error list before
[03:59] <qowao> maybe i find it again
[03:59] <Tcha> I looked on en error list : Inconsistent filesystem structur
[04:00] <andresj> is there a way of making the device list tell me something different than "39.4 GB Media"? This is for hard disk partitions.
[04:00] <VonGuard> what's the first thing you do if no network connections are configuring and coming up?
[04:00] <Tetracomm> Hello, I am creating an Ubuntu tips and tricks page, would anyone be willing to contribute any content?
[04:00] <fonzarelli> dazvid: would openarena meet your needs?
[04:00] <xorlim> Opera is hanging in Ibex.
[04:00] <DasEi> Tcha:run e2fsck on the !!!unmounted fs
[04:00] <Tcha> my partition system is pathologic though, I made it without a clue
[04:00] <VonGuard> anyone?
[04:00] <dazvid> Nope, unfortunately that game is not compatible with the proprietary verison of q3
[04:01] <xorlim> should I kill the process gvfs-http?
[04:01] <VonGuard> what's the first thing you do if no network connections are configuring and coming up?
[04:01] <Flannel> Tetracomm: Put it on the wiki (help.ubuntu.com/community) and people will contribute.
[04:01] <Tcha> DasEi: I tried but nothing worked
[04:01] <dle> Hi. I just reinstalled to Intrepid. My audio card is a M-Audio Delta 66.  It is recognized, but I'm am not getting sound from anything.  Any suggestions?
[04:01] <mike-burns> I'm trying to get my Atheros wireless card to work. "Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter". Which driver should I be using? What's the first step?
[04:01] <_hase> I just installed Ubuntu on my friends laptop, and I can't seem to connect to the internet through either wireless of ethernet
[04:02] <DasEi> Tcha:tried from live and no fix ?
[04:02] <Tcha> DasEi: what is the precise command please ? I'm not sure I'm doing it right
[04:02] <heinrich> Hmm something is wrong, after installing the Nvidia drivers for my 8800gts it tells me that it's running in low-graphics mode...why?
[04:02] <van> i share a simillar problem  as dle but under hardy and hda intel is my soundcard
[04:02] <qowao> Tcha: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#16
[04:02] <Tcha> DasEi: yes I'm on the liveCd right now
[04:02] <dle> van: I have a suspicion my problem stems from PulseAudio.
[04:02] <van> Problem would be card gets recognized but no sound comes out... in my case, sound WAS working before installing some packages (ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[04:03] <DasEi> Tcha:sudo e2fck - p  /dev/sXXX  where x is the broken parti
[04:03] <ldiamond_> Whats the package I have to install so that my ubuntu computer can ping my windows computer using the computer name^
[04:03] <ldiamond_> ?
[04:03] <Tcha> qowao: I already reinstalled grub but I'm not sure it is the problem
[04:03] <qowao> ah ok im a noob
[04:03] <van> dle: why? shouldnt alsa work even if PulseAudio doesnt?
[04:03] <dle> van: Did sound reappear when you uninstalled that/those?
[04:03] <_hase> What does it mean by fetch and extract firmware?
[04:03] <dle> van: I don't know, I never understood either of them.  Yet.
[04:03] <xorlim> firefox is crashing in ibex.
[04:03] <usser> ldiamond, winbind and you have to edit /etc/nsswitch.conf
[04:04] <Tcha> DasEi: the problem is I don't know which is the broken partition
[04:04] <DasEi> Tcha:more then one OS on your drive ?
[04:04] <mrj> CNN: OBAMA TO BE NEXT PRESIDENT
[04:04] <tritium> mrj: yes, please stay on topic, though
[04:04] <_hase> E: ba3-fwcutter: subprocess post installation returned error exit
[04:04] <OddlotX4> As of 11:00PM EST, Obama has been elected president.
[04:04] <Tcha> yes can I copy you the partition file system somewhere ?
[04:04] <ldiamond_> usser, edit /etc/nsswitch.conf with what? IP and names?
[04:05] <OddlotX4> Now, if he can just not get shot until Jan. 20th.
[04:05] <usser> ldiamond, hosts and networks line should have wins after files
[04:05] <DasEi> !paste|Tcha
[04:05] <usser> ldiamond, ^
[04:05] <tritium> OddlotX4: stay on topic!  you've been asked before.
[04:05] <van> dle: ok. you could try changing the sound interface
[04:05] <mrj> the USA's president is a fuckload more important than anything #ubuntu has to offer as a topic
[04:05] <dle> van: How?
[04:05] <fonzarelli> dazvid:  rm /usr/lib32/libopenal.so.0
[04:05] <fonzarelli> dazvid: then:  ln -s /usr/lib32/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib32/libopenal.so.0
[04:06] <Finiras> can anybody tell me the name of an archive unpacking program for ubuntu that supports unpacking rar files that have been made into parts for easy download
[04:06] <fonzarelli> dazvid: then relaunch the game
[04:06] <Flannel> mrj: Please stay on topic, and keep it clean.
[04:06] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my ubuntu 8.04 boxs internet connection with my xbox 360 with firestarter. the thing is i want to give all the connections that come from and go to my xbox 360 high priority (QoS) so that i dont lag. Can anyone help me out on how i can make all the connections that come from and go to my 360 get the highest priority possible. (my 360 is always connected to the same ehernet card and always has the same ip. Thanks
[04:06] <mrj> stfu
[04:06] <van> dle: you probably already did but go to system, sound and change Sound Playback from autodetect to another option
[04:06] <Tcha> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m1c49b617
[04:06] <geodome> hihi. the vpn box in network manager is disabled. how to re-enable it?
[04:06] <van> dle: in your case, if the sound never worked, you probably need to google the specs of your card
[04:06] <Tcha> ubottu: thank you
[04:06] <van> dle: there's probably some little line you can write in the audio configuration file that can fix the problem
[04:06] <nero> a bot?
[04:06] <dazvid> fonzarelli, thats exactly what I did with no luck
[04:07] <xorlim> ubottu: you are a bot
[04:07] <Tcha> lol ok
[04:07] <xorlim> ubottu: I am a compassionate conservative?
[04:07] <dle> van: Oy vey.  I'm tired of that.  I'd love a little just-works-ness.
[04:07] <DasEi> Tcha:nice, but paste the out from : sudo fdisk -l
[04:07] <Finiras> can anybody recommend a more advanced archiving program for ubuntu than the standard one?
[04:07] <tritium> xorlim: please, stop
[04:07] <Dillizar> can i put a .swf as a wallpaper
[04:07] <van> dle: yes, i know.  you can of course wait and in a couple of months it might just work after you do a normal update
[04:07] <dazvid> fonzarelli, wait i think i have made a huge mistake. Let me try something
[04:07] <cabrioleur> Finiras, command line tools.
[04:07] <fonzarelli> dazvid: k
[04:07] <xorlim> tritium: ok
[04:08] <usser> Finiras, depends on what are your requirements?
[04:08] <cabrioleur> Finiras, gzip, bzip2, tar, p7zip etc.
[04:08] <nero> u want flash as ur wallpaper?
[04:08] <xorlim> I have problem of programs crashing in Ibex.
[04:08] <Tcha> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m1766fb69
[04:08] <dle> van: Auto, Pulse, OSS, ALSA -- nothin'.
[04:08] <van> dle:  but if you dont want to wait you have two options: try another distro and perhaps they are shipping better support for your soundcard
[04:08] <xorlim> apparently they segfault in Ibex, the programs like Firefox and supertux2. and Opera hangs, too, and crashes on segfault.
[04:08] <dazvid> fonzarelli, i realised that im using 64 bit.. and ioquake supports 64. So the 32 bit library was not the problem
[04:08] <dazvid> hahah
[04:08] <_hase> Is it possible to fetch firmware without the computer being connected to the internet?
[04:08] <dazvid> i feel silly
[04:08] <dazvid> thanks for the help!
[04:08] <van> dle: or else, you could install alsa from the website
[04:08] <FloodBot1> dazvid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <fonzarelli> dazvid: ahh, cool
[04:09] <dazvid> Well it works fine now, so thats all for me. Thank you again for your time.
[04:09] <van> dle: that means youd be installing the latest version of sound architecture in your system. But I dont know how different that would be from the one you're running in Ibex, since it's such a new relase
[04:09] <Tcha> DasEi: I know the swap isn't supposed to be so big, I made the partition without thinking
[04:09] <dle> van: Yeah I'm disinclined to do that.
[04:09] <Finiras> usser i would like to be able to unpack archives that have been made into parts
[04:09] <cabrioleur> xorlim, segfault usually means that the libraries you are currently using are different version than the libraries the software was compiled against.
[04:10] <DasEi> Tcha:first check with : mount     ,that sda6 isn't mounted, then..
[04:10] <xorlim> cabrioleur: ok
[04:10] <usser> Finiras, rar archives?
[04:10] <Finiras> usser yes
[04:10] <Tcha> DasEi: in fact I couldn't make a new partition for the swap so I used an existant one
[04:10] <van> dle: disinclined? where are u from? :)
[04:10] <uman> leave ubottu alone
[04:10] <dle> van: Canada.
[04:10] <cabrioleur> xorlim, did you update from previous ubuntu? Are you using non-standard repositories?
[04:10] <usser> Finiras, you have to install unrar and ubuntu archive will have that ability
[04:10] <dle> van: Translation: don wanna.
[04:10] <usser> Finiras, just open the terminal and type sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:10] <DasEi> Tcha:sudo e2fsck -p   /dev/sda6
[04:10] <Finiras> ill try thanks usser
[04:10] <xorlim> cabrioleur: I updated from 8.04 and I used the update method I found on the Ubuntu site.
[04:11] <van> dle: ok. I like the word. It fits perfectly
[04:11] <xorlim> cabrioleur: I installed Opera directly from Opera website.
[04:11] <van> dle: I'm disinclined to download 680 mb Intrepid just to get sound working but ill have to. The CD ive got wasnt propperly burned
[04:11] <monk12> anyone know how to setup an ssh tunnel on command line. thought i knew but not working. yet one setup in GUI with SSH Secure Shell working fine. using: ssh -L 9999:mysql.dreamhost_server.com:3306 username@dreamhost_server.com and trying to connect from mysql gui tools to port 9999 on localhost.
[04:12] <dle> van: Argh.
[04:12] <DasEi> Tcha:20 gig for swap is really funny, but its in an extended parti, so you could resize it to win back storage
[04:12] <van> dle: the steps for you would be: try to find out what CHIP your soundcard has...
[04:12] <gerrygprs> obama!!!!!!!!!!
[04:12] <xorlim> cabrioleur: I used the completely graphical method of updating.
[04:12] <Flannel> gerrygprs: Please don't.  there are other channels for that.
[04:12] <heinrich> How do i change so that x-server uses nvidia drivers??
[04:13] <van> dle: if you google for your soundcard name you probably get it. After that it should be quite easy cause you probably find some ubuntu wikipage (Lab test team) or something that will tell you what little line to add
[04:13] <van> it's probably in some alsa.conf file under /etc
[04:13] <cabrioleur> xorlim, did you observe any errors?
[04:13] <zedster> I'm not finding a ticket on bugzillia that helps me, when I log in I have to kill gnome-panel at least once before my desktop will load right
[04:13] <zedster> other then a script to do it for me what else can I do?
[04:13] <coreyu> Obama
[04:14] <zedster> !poltics
[04:14] <cabrioleur> !trolling
[04:14] <zedster> !politics
[04:14] <Flannel> coreyu: Try #politics or ##us-elections, not here.  Thanks.
[04:14] <DasEi> Tcha:does the check on sda6 ran through ?
[04:14] <DasEi> *does
[04:14] <\Kira> Could someone help me with a command im trying to make? Im trying to get the group "project2" to have 777 permissions to everything bellow the directory "/media/setup", and have everyone else not be able to access it in any way, could someone help me with this?
[04:14] <xorlim> cabrioleur: yes
[04:15] <arsenal_forever7> alo
[04:15] <\Kira> man, this channel is going through hell today with the elections
[04:15] <cabrioleur> \Kira, chmod -Rfv 777 /media/setup
[04:15] <Tcha> connections problems it seems
[04:15] <xorlim> cabrioleur: It asked me a lot of questions and I said "yes" to all of them
[04:15] <Dillizar> !swf
[04:15] <\Kira> cabrioleur: okay, thanks
[04:15] <xorlim> cabrioleur: it had to change my system a lot
[04:15] <DasEi> Tcha: did the check on sda6 ran through ?
[04:15] <Dillizar> !.swf
[04:15] <Flannel> !flash | Dillizar
[04:15] <TheAnswer> chmod -R 777 will make the permissions wide open for everyone
[04:15] <cabrioleur> xorlim, one of the steps might be causing the problem.
[04:16] <zedster> anyone else having this sort of crap circle, nm-applet fails, firefox won't save home page settings and gnome-panel fails
[04:16] <Dillizar> !gnash
[04:16] <\Kira> cabrioleur: that doesn't help me at all
[04:16] <Tcha> DasEi what is the command again ?
[04:16] <DasEi> Tcha:sudo e2fsck -p   /dev/sda6
[04:16] <TheAnswer> Kira, if you followed cabrio's advice you have know opened up write permissions for all users
[04:16] <van> !alsa
[04:16] <cabrioleur> \Kira, right, you need to do it as sudo: "sudo chmod -Rfv 777 /medium/setup
[04:17] <\Kira> TheAnswer: yes, i looked over it before i ran it, as always
[04:17] <van> my first interaction with ubottu went very well, thanks
[04:17] <Tcha> DasEi: thanks, running
[04:17] <dle> van: thanks for the tip, I hadn't thought of that.  It's an ice1712 chipset.
[04:17] <toastedmilk> I'm running 8.04 and I'm having 'lapses' in my network.  My system says I have constant internet access, but I can't connect to any remote server after so long.  Anyone have any ideas?
[04:17] <\Kira> cabrioleur: thats not the right command, that makes it aviable to everyone to do anything
[04:17] <DasEi> Tcha:wait till through, ?errors found/fiixed ?
[04:18] <cabrioleur> \Kira, yes. It gives 777 to the directory and everything within.
[04:18] <Tcha> DasEi: /dev/sda6 : propre, 110466/1684256 fichiers, 651345/6735243 blocs
[04:18] <sajuuk> hey guys how do i refresh my usb devices connected to ubuntu?
[04:18] <m0z_work> alright i'm outtie.  if any digg users are interested in the picture i mentioned earlier today- http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/C_C_C_COMBO_BREAKER_3
[04:18] <gray_kid3> please don't tell anyone you saw me here..........if my slackware friends knew i was using ubuntu there would be trouble!
[04:18] <\Kira> cabrioleur: yes, but that means that *anyone* with access to the system can do anything to that directory. I want it to be locked to everyone but the group "project2"
[04:19] <DasEi> Tcha:sudo swapoff -a
[04:19] <TheAnswer> Kira: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html
[04:19] <\Kira> gray_kid3: thats just asking for it
[04:19] <DasEi> Tcha:sudo e2fsck -p   /dev/sda5
[04:19] <gray_kid3> what do you mean?
[04:19] <\Kira> TheAnswer: Ill look into that
[04:19] <\Kira> TheAnswer: thanks
[04:19] <cabrioleur> \Kira, sorry, I misunderstood. The group is the 2nd digit. So "sudo chmod -Rfv 770 /medium/setup" and then assign the group project2 to all the directories within" sudo chgrp -Rfv project2 /medium/setup"
[04:20] <DasEi> ﻿\Kira: man chmod,  man chown
[04:20] <zedster> anyone? how do I fix having to killall gnome-panel and reload it
[04:20] <van> dle: mmmm. there is a bug apparently. i google for ice1712 ibex
[04:20] <van> dle: the solution proposed there back in 2006 is adding a line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:20] <van> options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt
[04:20] <gray_kid3> oh....no, no, no.............dont get me wrong........im not making comparissons or anything
[04:20] <\Kira> cabrioleur: that will work, thanks. I was thinking I had to do something with setgrp and that looked out of my league
[04:20] <heinrich> hmm I cant make x-server use Nvidia drivers. Whyyy
[04:21] <van> dle: nah. its just one week ago. it should work for you
[04:21] <Tcha> DasEi: swapoff running... what is it ?
[04:21] <van> dle: I also added snd-hda-intel to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to prevent ATI HDMI sound from loading in.
[04:21] <zedster> heinrich: did you try the nvidia xorg tool?
[04:21] <van> dle: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949503
[04:21] <Tcha> DasEi: ok sda5 running
[04:21] <DasEi> !swap>Tcha
[04:21] <Flannel> gray_kid3: Did you have a support question we could help you with?  If you're looking to chat, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[04:21] <cabrioleur> heinrich, post the log.
[04:21] <gray_kid3> yes, i was looking for help
[04:22] <\Kira> gray_kid3: with what?
[04:22] <DasEi> ﻿cabrioleur:heinr. wants to get a 8800 to get on the run on a fresh hardy install
[04:22] <gray_kid3> well
[04:22] <cabrioleur> gray_kid3, you presence here is being notified to all slackware users around the world.
[04:23] <van> dle: after you add those lines you need to stop and start alsa again. Theres a very easy way to do this from the command line, i dont remember now. But you can also reboot of course.
[04:23] <\Kira> cabrioleur: lol
[04:23] <cabrioleur> DasEi, If you have an error, it will appear in the log file. Pastebin the log file, then we will know what's wrong.
[04:23] <SynAck> Can anyone tell me how I can chmod an executable file like Gimp?
[04:23] <Tcha> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m42caabe0
[04:23] <gray_kid3> as long as they don't know my true identity...........which is really Slack_kid43
[04:23] <cabrioleur> SynAck, man chmod
[04:23] <Tcha> hope you understand a little french
[04:23] <DasEi> ﻿cabrioleur:heinr. wants, not me
[04:24] <dle> van: You're way ahead of me.  Thanks.
[04:24] <SynAck> cabrioleur, I've been there. I just don't know if it works on executables, I keeps saying no such file.
[04:24] <\Kira> gray_kid3: this is a little off topic, playing games like that. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <Tcha> DasEi: it's says that is is not an ext2 file system, it is normal
[04:24] <Tcha> *it says
[04:24] <theDoc> OBAMA ROCKS! GO OBAMA!
[04:24] <heinrich> zedster: dont know how to install it=P
[04:24] <van> dle: it took me ages to fix my first soundcard not running in ubuntu (2 years ago)
[04:24] <SynAck> cabrioleur: My command is    $ sudo chmod a+x mplayer
[04:24] <theDoc> Hm
[04:25] <it-linux> hey gray_kid3, whatś up
[04:25] <cabrioleur> SynAck, chmod XXX /patch/to/file where XXX is a proper number.
[04:25] <Flannel> theDoc: Please don't do that here.  Try ##politics or ##us-election
[04:25] <DasEi> Tcha:oh oui, my fault, swap is no ext, thats right so
[04:25] <theDoc> Oh, sorry ;p
[04:25] <dle> van: Sad, isn't it?
[04:25] <heinrich> zedster: or where to find it if it is installed
[04:25] <cabrioleur> SynAck, just add a path at the end of it (sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/mplayer)
[04:25] <zedster> heinrich: apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[04:25] <SynAck> ah thanks
[04:26] <DasEi> Tcha:you can now try to reboot, and then maybe resize your giant swap
[04:26] <van> dle: lemme know if it works. Yes. The thing is the hardware support is amazing. It's just that hardware keeps changing very quickly. And it's all done by contributors all over the world. That's nice
[04:26] <Tcha> ok I try the reboot, see you soon maybe and thank you
[04:26] <dle> van: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:26] <van> dle: if you got not so new hardware it works right out of the box very often
[04:26] <van> dle: yes, that's it! thanks
[04:26] <blackjackshilaq> hey how come 8.10 can't resize my ntfs partition?
[04:26] <heinrich> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file. (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root) (doesn't work) and restart X server"
[04:26] <van> dle: im using that to see if removing the packages i installed did the trick
[04:26] <heinrich> zedster: ok, ill try it
[04:26] <cabrioleur> blackjackshilaq, make sure you have ntfsprogs installed.
[04:26] <gray_kid3> o.k. well heres my question..........i breached ubuntu security when i sudo su- ed into my console..........typed passwd and then put in a root password...........now i want to stop cheating and put it back the way it was
[04:27] <zedster> heinrich: wait
[04:27] <Flannel> gray_kid3: `sudo passwd -l` (thats a lowercase L), will re-lock the root account
[04:27] <blackjackshilaq> cabrioleur: I'm talking about during the install
[04:27] <van> dle: add sudo before the /etc ...
[04:27] <cabrioleur> gray_kid3, type exit
[04:27] <zedster> do you have custom xorg settings mouse, etc...?
[04:27] <cabrioleur> blackjackshilaq, install it while you are on Live CD.
[04:27] <dle> van: Yep.  No joy, though.
[04:27] <zedster> anyone know about the gnome-panel bug?
[04:27] <heinrich> zedster: ?
[04:27] <van> dle: :( and you added both lines?
[04:28] <cabrioleur> zedster, there is many gnome-panel bugs.
[04:28] <blackjackshilaq> cabrioleur: I don't remember having an option to install packages while I was in the install routine
[04:28] <zedster> cabrioleur: I have to killall gnome-panel to get it to load
[04:28] <DasEi> heinrich:no you don't , but again: before experiments, backup xorg.conf
[04:28] <cabrioleur> blackjackshilaq, the same way as having it installed.
[04:28] <van> dle: youll probably have to try many other options... keep googling for your chipset and ibex or your chipset and ubuntu
[04:28] <zedster> its run for a litte and then dies again
[04:28] <gray_kid3> wow.......you buntu guy's are experienced! it's almost like you use the oldest surviving linux distro
[04:28] <heinrich> zedster: done waaay back
[04:29] <van> dle: no luck for me either
[04:29] <cabrioleur> gray_kid3, I do.
[04:29] <blackjackshilaq> cabrioleur: so I'm booted to the live cd.  from here I can do apt-get ntfsprogs, then do the install?
[04:29] <zedster> heinrich: then let the nividia tool run
[04:29] <blackjackshilaq> I don't understand it conceptually
[04:29] <cabrioleur> blackjackshilaq, yes
[04:29] <blackjackshilaq> it's not on the install disc
[04:29] <cabrioleur> blackjackshilaq, with sudo (it should not ask you for the password.)
[04:29] <blackjackshilaq> but you're saying get it off the internet
[04:30] <cabrioleur> blackjackshilaq, yes
[04:30] <toastedmilk> Having trouble staying connected to the internet on 8.04, do I need to get supporters for router or nic?
[04:30] <blackjackshilaq> I'll try it
[04:30] <Guest22076> hello  frnds  i  ma  new  to  ubuntu
[04:30] <cabrioleur> toastedmilk, probably nic.
[04:30] <gray_kid3> my new ubuntu is VERY COOL bye the way........i have used Slackware since 03.......but this new buntu is the best yet!
[04:30] <heinrich> zedster: umm pardon me being a noob but...how do I run it?=P
[04:30] <zedster> gray_kid3: stop spanning
[04:30] <zedster> spaming*
[04:30] <gray_kid3> spanning?
[04:30] <zedster> heinrich: sudo nvidida-xorg
[04:31] <toastedmilk> cabrioleur: any knowhow on where to find support and also how to identify specific NIC?
[04:31] <cabrioleur> toastedmilk, you can identify by typing "lspci". The support depends on your driver.
[04:31] <heinrich> zedster: -xorg? doesn't exist
[04:31] <toastedmilk> cabrioleur: also, Ubuntu says I'm constantly connected, I'm just not connecting to websites
[04:32] <e-frame> any idea for good hdd recovery tool?
[04:32] <zedster> heinrich: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:32] <cabrioleur> e-frame, dd
[04:32] <Flannel> !undelete | e-frame
[04:32] <van> !sound
[04:32] <toastedmilk> cabrioleur: I have a realtek. is it supported?
[04:33] <rodolfo> when trying to get connected to a web radio using Rhythmbox, it says that it wasn't possible to do it because a text/html decoder plugin is required but it doesn't say a name. Any suggestions of this plugin that is compatible with Rhythmbox?
[04:33] <cabrioleur> toastedmilk, most of them, yes.
[04:33] <gray_kid3> o.k. ......well......thought i would stick around and pick up some buntu tips........but i can see my friends are not in this community.......looks like i will purge all buntus from my drives and rejoin the ranks of the Slack community!
[04:33] <toastedmilk> cabrioleur, can I get it from terminal?
[04:33] <heinrich> zedster: Hmm "Validation error: Data incomplete in file xorg.conf" Device line bla bla bla Configured Video Device must have a driver line.
[04:34] <heinrich> zedster: hmm,
[04:34] <e-frame> cabrioleur: & Flannel i've trie dd, but i'll find out the link ubottu give me. i'll tell ya the result
[04:34] <zedster> heinrich: sounds like you need to reset your xorg and start from scratch
[04:34] <DasEi> heinrich:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:34] <zedster> ^that
[04:34] <heinrich> oki
[04:34] <gray_kid3> lol= laughing out fucking loud!
[04:34] <Flannel> e-frame: It'll allow you to try and reconstruct images you've made with dd and stuff
[04:34] <toastedmilk> cabrioleur: 02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[04:34] <DasEi> ^supported
[04:35] <Tcha> re
[04:35] <zedster> I have two dbus-daemon running is that an issue?
[04:35] <toastedmilk> DasEi: any idea why I'm not staying connected?
[04:35] <DasEi> Tcha:live or usual ?
[04:35] <Tcha> DasEi: nothing changed
[04:35] <Tcha> live
[04:35] <e-frame> Flnnel: the iso created by dd cannot be mounted :)
[04:35] <cabrioleur> toastedmilk, the modules should be installed for it already. To verify what's faulty, you can for instance ping a remote host, and see the variations. Then ping your router, and if variations exist in both cases, it's NIC, if only in remote host, it's the router. There is a lot of different ways, and none of them is perfect.
[04:35] <DasEi> Tcha: what error does regular boot give ?
[04:35] <Tcha> DasEi: error 16
[04:35] <heinrich> DasEi: Something is wrong with that line.
[04:35] <Petester> hi everyone
[04:36] <heinrich> DasEi: u just wrote
[04:36] <Flannel> e-frame: Just read the image as a file, don't try and mount it (with that tool, which is designed to find data, etc)
[04:36] <toastedmilk> cabrioleur: ugh.  can I ping in terminal with 'ping IP'?
[04:36] <DasEi> heinrich:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <cabrioleur> toastedmilk, yes
[04:36] <dle> van: Oh nice, ibex installed Envy24 automatically.
[04:36] <van> dle: what's Envy24?
[04:36] <DasEi> Tcha: that sounds like a grub error
[04:36] <toastedmilk> cabrioluer: one more thing.  what's the default IP of a router?  192.168.0.1 ??
[04:37] <Tcha> DasEi: yes, inconsistent file system
[04:37] <heinrich> DasEi:  Doesn't work
[04:37] <Mixed432> !flash
[04:37] <dle> van: I take it back.  *I* did when I installed alsa-tools-gui.
[04:37] <dle> van: Envy24 is a mixer for ice1712-based cards.
[04:37] <e-frame> Flannel: the hdd has many bad sector, and the partition table is screwed up
[04:37] <Mixed432> how do you make firefox your default browser??
[04:37] <DasEi> heinrich:   sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk
[04:38] <heinrich> dpkg : conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (remove)
[04:38] <DasEi> Tcha: inkonsistent...  and g a grub error are two different things, what the error message ?
[04:39] <heinrich> DasEi: Bah i give up soon, it's not worth the time....
[04:39] <Tcha> DasEi: the message when I boot is just "Error 16" right after "Grub 1.5 Loading" and that's all
[04:39] <Ethik> hey
[04:39] <qstnn> I have a bluetooth mouse. I am on Ubuntu 8.10. Everytime I restart my laptop I have to delete the mouse and repair it for it to work. How do I automate this process?
[04:40] <heinrich> DasEi: I dont ever think I'll like ubuntu more then xp, to annoyingly userUnfriendly...
[04:40] <e-frame> Flannel: this is the partition table found on the hdd http://paste.ubuntu.com/67715/
[04:40] <heinrich> and why the *pip* cant i remove files....grr...
[04:40] <\Kira> I type "set" in the console and a whole bunch of code output is display, enough to go past were I can scroll up in the terminal. There is no manual entry for set, and this was on ubuntu server. What is this?
[04:41] <lap> hey
[04:41] <lap> someone know what happens with the "removable drives and media" in the system menu in intrepid ibex ?
[04:41] <lap> i want to disable all automatic mount
[04:41] <Mixed432> !flash
[04:42] <DasEi> heinrich:...  you can : man rm
[04:42] <Tcha> DasEi: so what should I do to reinstall ubuntu properly ?
[04:42] <Tcha> DasEi: if I cannot fix it I can try to reinstall
[04:42] <e-frame> Flannel: and this is with parted http://paste.ubuntu.com/67716/
[04:43] <DasEi> Tcha: something is wrong with your harddrive to ubuntu, did you change anything ?
[04:43] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: are you asking about the command set?  or what it outputs?
[04:43] <Tcha> DasEi: I had harddrive problems before installing ubuntu, I hoped I could solve it with ubuntu
[04:43] <toastedmilk> Can anyone help me set up a linksys Wireless G 2.4GHz 802.11 Router with 8.04?
[04:44] <heinrich> DasEi: Ok, that's it...I give up.
[04:44] <Guma> what is the env variable to eport for man path MANPATH or MAN_PATH
[04:44] <lap> so ?
[04:44] <DasEi> Tcha:there is a file : /var/log/syslog   , could you paste it ?
[04:44] <lap> no one to answer me ?
[04:44] <Tetracomm> If any of you use Digg, tell me
[04:44] <Tetracomm> ..
[04:44] <DasEi> heinrich: have a break
[04:44] <Tetracomm> pm me
[04:45] <heinrich> DasEi: more then an hour getting no where close to installing a graphics card... now that's just sad...
[04:45] <Mixed432> anyone knows how to register flash so I can use it?  it's installed however when I installed java I messed something up really bad
[04:45] <murlidhar> i am using intrepid rc now and haven't updated it yet . now since i already have the final alternate install cd iso , i want it to add it into the repos so that i can update my system . any ideas how can i do this ?
[04:45] <toastedmilk> I'm wired to my router and my computer doesn't stay connected for any long period of time, though ubuntu tells me I'm connected.  I have a Realtek NIC.  Can anyone help?
[04:45] <DasEi> heinrich: after using a sys for two weeks ?
[04:46] <murlidhar> i tried adding the cd to the sources.list manually and then apt-get update . i get an error saying that it can't be done  .
[04:46] <Tcha> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m91ef1de
[04:46] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: do you have a computer that DOES work?
[04:46] <murlidhar> and have to use apt-cdrom add
[04:46] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: yes, and they all connect and stay connected fine.
[04:46] <murlidhar> i have also tried that and i get errors
[04:46] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: also, what do you mean by 'connected'?
[04:46] <SirHaXal0t> hello, i have a huge problem with intrepid, the desktop dont work properly, my icons are gone, and everything else on the desktop dont show,  anyone else with this problem?
[04:46] <heinrich> DasEi: If the system is not even working when following a step by step guide under about the same circumstances....yes.
[04:46] <murlidhar> thebitguru: geez . no responsee .
[04:46] <Tcha> DasEi: are lines 12,13,14 the problem ?
[04:46] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: ubuntu tells me that I'm connected to a wired network, though I can't log into xchat or surf firefox, citing no connection
[04:47] <thebitguru> murlidhar: hehe... be patient :)
[04:47] <van> SirHaxalt0: have you logged in as a different user?
[04:47] <toresn> i would like to clone my external monitor (1920x1200) and laptop monitor (1400x1050) ... it is possible to do this with xrandr? (video card: intel gma950)
[04:47] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: okay, is that all you have tried?
[04:47] <Tcha> clera
[04:47] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: On this computer, yes.  What else would I try?
[04:47] <SirHaXal0t> van, do you think its a bug with my account?, i will try make another login
[04:48] <van> SirHax: try creating a new user and see what happens. You could also reinstall the whole ubuntu-desktop package
[04:48] <SirHaXal0t> van, okay il try that
[04:48] <DasEi> Tcha:and 17 and following, though this is the syslog of the live cd
[04:48] <heinrich> DasEi: If everything is so totally annoyingly far fetched as to take hours to install such a small thing. Then I guess id rather spend my time on something more worthwhile^^
[04:48] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: ping/traceroute/ifconfig might be informative.  Here is a webpage with examples: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-network-troubleshooting-tips.html
[04:48] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: Is there anything I should install for my NIC or Router to stay connected?
[04:48] <toresn> i would like to clone my external monitor (1920x1200) and laptop monitor (1400x1050) ... it is possible to do this with xrandr? (video card: intel gma950) ... i have set virtual=2048x2048
[04:49] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: no idea
[04:49] <Tcha> DasEi: so what to do ?
[04:49] <DasEi> heinrich: go ahead as you wish, my start was as pleasant as my first alphabet :)
[04:49] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: ping/traceroute/ifconfig isn't found
[04:50] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: go read that webpage first, then try them out (multiple commands)
[04:50] <heinrich> DasEi: Really? what did u install ubuntu in?
[04:50] <DasEi> Tcha:lets mount the harddrive, check some more
[04:50] <nmh-j2graw> also, are there indicator lights on the network card and the router?
[04:50] <FFForever> how do i fix this?, i get this when i do a ./configure on wine's source configure: WARNING: No OpenGL library found on this system. OpenGL and Direct3D won't be supported.
[04:50] <Tcha> DasEi: how do i do that ?
[04:50] <DasEi> heinrich : I started with suse 7.3,  but have your break now ..
[04:50] <Flannel> FFForever: why on earth are you compiling wine?
[04:50] <lap> someone know how to disable automount or auto-execution of media and drives in intrepid please ?
[04:50] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: Oh, rofl!
[04:51] <greghere> does anyone know of any bugs in the latest version of Helix?
[04:51] <FFForever> Flannel, because i have to
[04:51] <Flannel> FFForever: Whys that?
[04:51] <DasEi> Tcha: sudo mkdir /media/sda6
[04:51] <FFForever> Flannel, for spore ^_^
[04:51] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: ?
[04:51] <FFForever> gotta apply a patch :D
[04:51] <heinrich> DasEi: Ah ok.
[04:51] <Flannel> FFForever: How is a compiled wine any better?
[04:51] <toastedmilk> nwh-j2graw: I put it all in as one command 'ping/traceroute/ifconfig
[04:51] <Tcha> DasEi: and then ?
[04:51] <DasEi> Tcha: sudo mount /dev/sda6  /media/sda6
[04:52] <nmh-j2graw> toastedmilk: yeah
[04:52] <DasEi> Tcha: cd /media/sda6
[04:52] <Flannel> FFForever: A patch not in the mainline?
[04:52] <lap> ...
[04:52] <FFForever> Flannel, because i am applying a texture patch... i need libgl how do i install it
[04:52] <FFForever> Flannel, yeah :D
[04:52] <murlidhar> :(
[04:52] <FFForever> it has not yet made it to the main tree
[04:52] <DasEi> Tcha: ls               ,hd there ?
[04:52] <heinrich> DasEi: I heard that Ubuntu was the most user-friendly so I installed it. But so far it's been very Un-friendly in every way.
[04:52] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: Im asking about the command, im wondering what it does
[04:52] <akahige> I have /var on a separate XFS fs and I don't have enough space to upgrade to Ibex. Since / is on a giant fs that's mostly empty (also XFS), I'd like to move /var onto the / partition, but I don't want to wreck anything, so I'm hoping to get some help/advice
[04:52] <nmh-j2graw> lap: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=771835
[04:52] <Flannel> FFForever: `sudo apt-get build-dep wine` should get you all of the dependencies you need.
[04:53] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: what shell are you using?
[04:53] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: console, the standard kubuntu shell
[04:53] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: iirc, it is a shell builtin, so man $SHELL
[04:53] <FFForever> Flannel, i did that.... i still get that message....
[04:53] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: ha, no - not what terminal emulator, but the shell (probably bash)
[04:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: oh yeah, I believe its bash
[04:54] <tsrk> how do i see the clock rate of my cpu?
[04:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: its not like a login shell or anything or python
[04:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: the standard type
[04:56] <Petester> hi
[04:56] <ubuntu> I am looking to install grub onto an external hard drive. If I mount the external hard drive and then chroot into that mount point, would I want to grub-install /dev/hda or the location of the external hard drive
[04:56] <DasEi> Tcha: hd there ?
[04:56] <ubuntu> ?
[04:56] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: okay, well, assuming you are running bash, look in the bash manpage, under the 'shell builtin commands' section: 'Without  options,  the name and value of each shell variable are displayed...'
[04:56] <Petester> i wonder if i can restore the taskbar when once i removed it
[04:56] <tsrk> how do i see the clock rate of my cpu?
[04:56] <heinrich> DasEi: Oh I have a question for u.
[04:56] <ubuntu> that being /dev/sdb1
[04:56] <Petester> and if ic an, how can i do it
[04:56] <heinrich> DasEi: do I really need a swap drive when i have 4GB ram?
[04:57] <DasEi> !swap>heinrich
[04:57] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: okay, thanks
[04:57] <nmh-j2graw> tsrk: I usually use 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[04:57] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: np
[04:57] <DasEi> heinrich : not really, for hibernation sure
[04:58] <tsrk> nmh-j2graw, thank you very much, lots of other interesting stuff there too!
[04:58] <Petester> can anyone tell me if i would be able to restore the taskbar panel once i removed it?
[04:58] <\Kira> Im having issues with ubuntu server. It doesnt automount devices, changes take a reboot to show, terminals just plain freeze. Im accessing it with ssh. Is all this stuff normal? If so, its not a very good server
[04:58] <Relegated> Can anyone tell me what command I would use to give my user full control over another users home DIR
[04:58] <nmh-j2graw> Petester: you want to create a new panel
[04:59] <Petester> and what do i do after that?
[04:59] <heinrich> DasEi: Oki, only wanted to know if it could be the cause of something not working
[04:59] <nmh-j2graw> Petester: you are done (though you may want to add a window selector and friends)
[04:59] <heinrich> DasEi installed without one.
[05:00] <\Kira> Relegated: just you, or everyone? Do you want to be the only one with access, or you and the actual owner?
[05:00] <ldiamond_> I'm looking for an alternative to Synergy (it fails...) anyone know one?
[05:00] <DasEi> heinrich: 64 bit, I assume
[05:00] <DasEi> Tcha: ?
[05:00] <maco> my TTY's have disappeared. how do i get them back?
[05:00] <nmh-j2graw> Petester: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/gnome-2-missing-taskbar-379267/
[05:00] <heinrich> DasEi 32, I dislike 64...
[05:00] <maco> getty is running, but if I hit ctrl+alt+f1 it doesn't switch me off of my GNOME session
[05:01] <Finiras> i dont get sound from some wmv files, and i tried many different video players and installed all the codecs that totem offers to install - any ideas?
[05:01] <DasEi> heinrich: so only 3gig of your ram are adressed
[05:01] <nmh-j2graw> maco: does it switch you to a blank screen?
[05:01] <DasEi> ..with that uge graphics
[05:01] <heinrich> DasEi in ubuntu, yeah
[05:01] <heinrich> DasEi in vista 3,5 xp 3 i think
[05:01] <robd> Hey guys, will this channel support Kubuntu too?
[05:02] <DasEi> robd: yes
[05:02] <\Kira> robd: kinda, try #kubuntu first
[05:02] <robd> DasEi: cool
[05:02] <\Kira> robd: if its about the kde environment, try #kubuntu, if its system related, #ubuntu is fine
[05:03] <heinrich> DasEi: 64bit has to many errors right now, I have enough of them as it is...
[05:03] <DasEi> heinrich: mind joining :
[05:03] <DasEi> !ot
[05:04] <heinrich> DasEi: Dont know about linuxes though
[05:04] <heinrich> !ot
[05:04] <heinrich> DasEi: Me...supporter?=P
[05:05] <heinrich> perhaps in random chatter =D
[05:05] <ldiamond_> I need a program like PeaZip, 7zip or Winrar on ubuntu. What package should I get?
[05:06] <Sorcererbob> isn't 7zip available in the repos?
[05:06] <ldiamond_> is it CLI^
[05:06] <ldiamond_> ?
[05:06] <prathamesh> hi ubottu, is there r any other channels regarding ubuntu
[05:06] <Sorcererbob> it does both if I recall
[05:06] <Sorcererbob> prathamesh: #ubuntu-offtopic as well as a bunch of language-specific ones
[05:06] <dle> Is EasyUbuntu no longer required?  It seems that apps themselves now prompt for that kind of thing.
[05:07] <ldiamond_> cant get 7zip from aptitude.
[05:07] <Finiras> i dont get sound from some wmv files, and i tried many different video players and installed all the codecs that totem offers to install - any ideas?
[05:07] <prathamesh> Sorcererbob: ialrady joined that channel. i want more if there r exists
[05:07] <thedark_> I can't record sound, mic or what comes out of the speakers
[05:07] <thedark_> I have everything turned up in the mixer
[05:07] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras:ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:08] <prathamesh> is there r any other channels regarding ubuntu
[05:09] <DasEi> Tcha: ?
[05:09] <Finiras> daei i think thats it thanks
[05:09] <prathamesh> help : is there r any other channels regarding ubuntu
[05:09] <qowao> its over nooow
[05:09] <Gerrad> Hello everyone
[05:09] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras: np
[05:09] <qowao> hey where would i get this cool 8.10 wallpaper?
[05:10] <qowao> im on another box right now
[05:10] <Gerrad> what channel would you folks suggest I join to get some installation help?
[05:11] <Gerrad> I think I am having a hardware problem
[05:11] <qowao> why do you think so Gerrad
[05:11] <Gerrad> lol because I can't get ubuntu to install
[05:11] <qowao> why not
[05:12] <qowao> does the cd drive explode each time
[05:12] <qowao> or does the keyboard vanish
[05:12] <Gerrad> it either goes straight to a console prompt or tells me that there is a busybox error
[05:12] <Gerrad> can't get past the spash screen
[05:12] <qowao> hm
[05:12] <qowao> im new to it
[05:12] <Gerrad> same
[05:12] <qowao> had suggested to burn the install cd again, slower
[05:12] <FFForever> i have a boot problem :-/, i have to hold a key to boot up my system how can i make my system boot by it self?, it worked fine in 8.04
[05:13] <qowao> worked over here
[05:13] <Gerrad> On my 3rd disc
[05:13] <qowao> but otherwise, no idea sorry =/
[05:13] <qowao> hm k. hey where would i get this cool 8.10 wallpaper btw?
[05:13] <Finiras> dasei i downloaded restricted extras but it doesn't do
[05:13] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras: tried vlc ?
[05:13] <jaypro> i had winxp installed on 100% of a harddrive, but installed ubuntu, changing the set up to 80%/20% xp/ubuntu, dualboot.  is there a program that i can use to adjust it to, say, 50%/50%?
[05:14] <Finiras> dasei yes...
[05:14] <qowao> gparted jaypro
[05:14] <Sorcererbob> jaypro: I'd use Gparted
[05:14] <qowao> its in ubunut i think, called partition tool
[05:14] <Sorcererbob> but you'll have to boot from a CD to do it
[05:14] <qowao> or something
[05:14] <Finiras> dasei it only shows the image, not sound
[05:14] <jaypro> oh i tried jparted, but i didnt see where to adjust it........
[05:14] <jaypro> hrmmm
[05:14] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras: sure files are alright then ?
[05:14] <jaypro> gparted i mean
[05:14] <qowao> resize
[05:14] <qowao> yeah boot from cd tho
[05:14] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras: can you play any sound files at all ?
[05:14] <Finiras> dasei i do get image now too with totem, while i didnt get that earlier
[05:14] <Finiras> dasei yes
[05:15] <qowao> hey where would i get this cool 8.10 wallpaper?????
[05:15] <jaypro> qowao> what do you mean, "boot from cd tho"?
[05:15] <Finiras> dasei yes i can, even with movie players like vlc it works fine
[05:15] <qowao> jaypro: do it from a live cd
[05:15] <qowao> not from your ubuntu install
[05:15] <jaypro> ohhhh okayu
[05:15] <qowao> k
[05:15] <Finiras> dasei its not the individual files problem because there are a lot of them and they all dont work
[05:15] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras: so prbly bad files, then
[05:15] <Gerrad> does anyone know of any issues with installing on a laptop... specifically a Asus A7k series?
[05:15] <Finiras> dasei the sound
[05:15] <jaypro> thanks qowao, Sorcererbob
[05:15] <qowao> np
[05:16] <Finiras> no dasei im very sure that its not the files
[05:16] <Finiras> dasei i think that its about a missing codec
[05:16] <Finiras> dasei could it be that the codec only gets used when i restart my pc
[05:16] <qowao> hey where would i get this cool 8.10 wallpaper?????
[05:16] <qowao> online
[05:17] <Flannel> !repeat | qowao
[05:17] <qowao> help me Flannel
[05:17] <DasEi> ﻿Finiras: no, vlc brings its own anyway, and the extras are present after a install
[05:17]  * freetown feeling ignored
[05:17]  * qowao hits freeman_ with a wall
[05:17] <freetown> lol
[05:18] <freetown> missed!
[05:18] <Relegated> Can anyone tell me what command I would use to give my user full control over another users home DIR, just /home/user
[05:18] <qowao> heh
[05:18] <qowao> chmod Relegated
[05:18] <Flannel> Relegated: Why do you want to do that?
[05:19] <Relegated> Well, all I really want to do is be able to write in Nautilus
[05:19] <Finiras> i dont get sound from some wmv files, and i tried many different video players and installed all the codecs that totem offers to install - any ideas?
[05:19] <Relegated> instead of doing it with sudo or su from the command line
[05:19] <Relegated> for ease
[05:19] <Flannel> Relegated: It'd be easier to just add yourself to that users group.
[05:20] <Flannel> Relegated: `sudo useradd user1 user2` will give user1 group access to user2's files.
[05:20] <qowao> neat
[05:20] <Balder> hello
[05:21] <Relegated> Flannel, that did not work
[05:21] <Flannel> Relegated: It does.  You need to log back in for your groups to be updated.
[05:21] <Relegated> Usage: useradd [options] LOGIN
[05:21] <Relegated> Is what it says
[05:22] <Relegated> and lists options
[05:22] <Flannel> Relegated: What did you type?
[05:22] <lap> someone know how to disable auto-mount of removable media ?
[05:22] <Relegated> sudo useradd myuser theiruser
[05:22] <Flannel> Relegated: Oh, sorry.  adduser, not useradd.
[05:23] <tuxedocurly> AND SO OBAMA IS THE VICTOR!
[05:23] <tuxedocurly> WOO
[05:23] <Flannel> tuxedocurly: Please take it to ##politics and ##us-election, not here, thanks.
[05:23] <Relegated> Flannel, thanks, ill log back in a min
[05:23] <Finiras> i dont get sound from some wmv files, and i tried many different video players and installed all the codecs that totem offers to install - any ideas?
[05:24] <tuxedocurly> Flannel: buzz-killer =\
[05:24] <Relegated> On a different topic, anyone know how to get my applications button working on my top panel. Places and System work fine but when I click Applications it just highlights but does not drop down
[05:24] <cvd> There still Intelligent American People. Obama Won
[05:24] <DasEi> Tcha: ?
[05:25] <ThreeG> Hi. I have a tiny question. I made a clean install of Intrepid, added some -dev packages, but I cannot seem to compile GL-related things. gcc -lGL fails, I must be missing a package. Anyone knows which one I need?
[05:25] <SOURdiesel> can anyone tell me the command to mount a network folder.  temporary not fixed.
[05:26] <jaypro> qowao, Sorcererbob looks like you can make one partition smaller, but you cant make the other partition bigger, unless you reinstall
[05:26] <qowao> hmmm
[05:26] <Robb_M> hey guys, im trying to use bzr with launchpad and im getting this error "bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()"
[05:26] <qowao> this sounds sad
[05:27] <Robb_M> does anybody know what this greek means?
[05:27] <qowao> might be true jaypro =[
[05:27] <Flannel> jaypro, qowao, Sorcererbob: you can only expand ext3 partitions (directly) by their end, not the beginning.
[05:27] <qowao> in gneral?
[05:27] <qowao> so NTFS pwns ext3 hard?
[05:27] <qowao> how disappointing
[05:27] <Flannel> !enter | qowao
[05:28] <petafile> I'm running Intrepid in virtualBox and gnome doesn't start properly (hangs w/ a tan background) unless I use a failsafe session.  I disabled the VBoxClient session script, but that didn't fix the issue.  Anyone else see something like this?
[05:28] <SOURdiesel> ﻿can anyone tell me the command to mount a network folder.  temporary not fixed.
[05:28] <qowao> gnite
[05:29] <jaypro> damn... i guess ill reboot
[05:29] <jaypro> thanks flannel
[05:30] <Robb_M> !ping
[05:31] <nikitis> Anyone have documentation on installing 8.10 via USB Flash drive 512 MBs?
[05:31] <Flannel> jaypro: You can still move the head of ext3, it just can't be done atomically.
[05:31] <Robb_M> nikitis: as far as i know, thats not possible
[05:31] <jaypro> oh....how would i do it then, Flannel?
[05:32] <usser_> nikitis, 512 seems just too small for ubuntu cd to fit
[05:32] <heinrich> Anyone with FIRSTHAND experience in installing an 8800 gts on ubuntu 8.04
[05:32] <nikitis> usser, does the whole cd have to be on there?
[05:32] <Robb_M> nikitis: yep
[05:33] <nikitis> Robb_M, what about a download install via usb boot?
[05:33] <les> heinrich: i have 2 in sli. what's the problem?
[05:33] <Flannel> jaypro: I believe newer versions of gparted can do it automatically.  But, it depends on how big your partition is, and how small you want to make it.  Say for instance, it was 2G and you wanted to make it 1G (the later 1G), you'd first shrink it so it was 1G with 1G of freespace, then create a new one in that freespace, then move the data, then delete the old one.  Something akin to that.
[05:33] <heinrich> les:  Great!
[05:33] <Robb_M> nikitis: do you mean a network cd?
[05:34] <usser_> nikitis, oh yea i forgot you can always get a network install cd and make a live usb off of it
[05:34] <heinrich> les:  I've downloaded the newest drivers from nvidias homepage
[05:34] <maverikh> harware support quesiton... does anyone know for 100% if ubuntu 8.xxxxx supports the intel ITX board with a 1.6ghz ATOM porcessor..... pm me to answer
[05:34] <heinrich> and i'm now going to run them, last time errors appeared about kernel missing.
[05:34] <nikitis> usser, can't use cd, no drive
[05:34] <halycon> hi if I previously was using a beta version of Intrepid Ibex how do I upgrade to the final release version?
[05:34] <jaypro> Flannel: sounds like id have to reinstall anyways, right?
[05:34] <heinrich> les:  and i'm now going to run them, last time errors appeared about kernel missing.
[05:35] <Flannel> jaypro: Not if the sizing/etc works, no.
[05:35] <nikitis> usser, oh ok so make the iso, then transfer it to usb drive?
[05:35] <usser_> nikitis, all you need is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:35] <dig> hi, anyone use compiz on ubuntu? I wonder how to trigger the desktop cube
[05:35] <SOURdiesel> ﻿can anyone tell me the command to mount a network folder.  temporary not fixed.
[05:35] <lap> qqun sous hardy ?
[05:35] <usser_> nikitis, and to make bootable usbs install unetbootin
[05:36] <dig> I mean what keys should I press
[05:36] <jport> dig: you have compiz installed already ?
[05:36] <usser_> nikitis, unetbootin is pretty user friendly so u shouldnt have any problems with it
[05:36] <jport> dig: CTRL + ALT + right arrow or left arrow
[05:36] <jport> or mouse cursor
[05:36] <thedark_> I can't record sound, mic or what comes out of the speakers
[05:36] <thedark_> I have everything turned up in the mixer
[05:36] <thedark_> Anyone Have ANY ideas???!!! :(
[05:36] <heinrich> les: Did u do anything else then what they say on Nvidias homepage?
[05:37] <jaypro> Flannel: hrmm.. i dont follow you.  i have 120GB on XP, 30GB on 8.10.  If I reduce 120GB XP to 100GB, that leaves 20GB free with nothing on it. so what would i be creating in the 20GB freespace?
[05:37] <jaypro> is that not a new install?
[05:37] <lap> do I need to run "gnome-volume-properties" as root ?
[05:37] <les> heinrich: check to make sure you have the kernel headers installed first
[05:37] <Flannel> jaypro: just a new partition.
[05:37] <heinrich> this is the second time trying, just reinstalled Ubuntu just in case because of some annoying files..
[05:37] <les> heinrich: also make sure you have a compiler/toolchain insteead (build-essential)
[05:37] <GeorgeA> does anyone know of a web based FTP client?
[05:37] <jaypro> FLannel: formated to ext?
[05:37] <les> heinrich: other then that i'd need to know an error message
[05:37] <Flannel> GeorgeA: That doesn't make a lot of sense.
[05:37] <Flannel> jaypro: Yeah
[05:37] <jport> GeorgeA: net2ftp
[05:37] <usser_> GeorgeA, huh?
[05:38] <nikitis> usser, do I put the mini.iso onto the unetbootin usb drive?
[05:38] <heinrich> les: and how do i know wich kernel i need? =S
[05:38] <Agent7629> dig: can also use click the wheel and move your mouse around (if your mouse wheel has a click effect)
[05:38] <maverikh> harware support quesiton... does anyone know for 100% if ubuntu 8.xxxxx supports the intel ITX board with a 1.6ghz ATOM porcessor..... pm me to answer
[05:38] <jport> oh yeah forgot about that ;]
[05:38] <GeorgeA> Flannel, jport, usser_, in Uni, port 21 is blocked, so I can't connect to my ftp at home. I wanted to put some (web) ftp client on my PC that I can use from uni.
[05:38] <jaypro> but you mentioned that the 30GB partition would eventually be deleted, so that the 20GB could be resized to 50GB. but where would 8.10 be runing if you got rid of the 30GB partition
[05:39] <usser_> nikitis, unetbootin is a program once u start it has a field in which u enter path to your iso drive, theres also another field which should have your usb driver information
[05:39] <GeorgeA> (Uni = university)
[05:39] <les> heinrich: the one with hardy should be ok unless 177.80 drivers don't support that kernel anymore (i don't have the newest drivers installed)
[05:39] <bigstart> hi!
[05:39] <jport> GeorgeA: check out net2ftp
[05:39] <Agent7629> jaypro: i think he means that you would start the 20 in the empty space, move the data... delete the 30 and then expand the end of the 20 to fill the space to 50g ... (did i get that right flannel?)
[05:39] <usser_> nikitis, err iso file, usb drive
[05:39] <GeorgeA> jport, alright.
[05:39] <jport> GeorgeA: www.net2ftp.com
[05:39] <dig> It kinds of working, but it is not a cube.
[05:40] <GeorgeA> jport, yeah am on it.. but is it safe/secure?
[05:40] <SOURdiesel> ﻿can anyone tell me the command to mount a network folder.  temporary not fixed.
[05:40] <jport> dig: make sure your options in General are set to desktop horizontal size = 4
[05:40] <Flannel> Agent7629: Yeah, jaypro:  20G new partition in freespace, then move your data from the 30G to the 20G, then delete the 30G and then expand the 20G to 50G
[05:40] <dig> Even I trun on 6 desktops, it shows 3 sides
[05:40] <Hail_Spacecake> anyone here know anything about lvm?
[05:40] <usser_> SOURdiesel, windows shares?
[05:40] <GeorgeA> jport, the thing is, I'd rather have the client on my own pc.
[05:40] <jaypro> Agent7629, FLannel: yeah but where would the operating system be if the 20GB didnt have 8.10 to begin with
[05:40] <jport> GeorgeA; Yes, dreamhost.com uses it for their hosting
[05:40] <SOURdiesel> usser_: yes
[05:40] <Flannel> jaypro: You copy it from the 30G
[05:41] <jaypro> Flannel... OHHHHHhhhh! i didnt know you could do that
[05:41] <usser_> SOURdiesel, smbmount //compname/share /mountdirectory
[05:41] <jaypro> interesting
[05:41] <jport> GeorgeA: you can download it ,.. link is on the left side
[05:41] <usser_> SOURdiesel, but u have to have smbfs installed to be able to do that
[05:41] <heinrich> les: No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site"
[05:41] <Flannel> jaypro: Theres nothing magical about linux files.  Copying (assuming you do it correctly, find and cpio) is normal and doable.
[05:41] <dennister> anyone know how to get in touch with ubuntu forums? I'm registered, but can't reset password with their method/links, and can't therefore, login, either
[05:41] <nikitis> usser, can you install windows with this utility as well?
[05:41] <SOURdiesel> usser_: isn't there one that's mount -t cifs //...
[05:41] <jport> GeorgeA: There is install instructions also
[05:41] <dennister> their usual reset-password system is broken :(
[05:41] <Agent7629> dig: you have desktop cube and rotate cube enabled?
[05:42] <GeorgeA> jport, oh right, hehe I was looking, guess am blind, thanks :)
[05:42] <jaypro> Flannel i see. coo thanks man
[05:42] <dft> does anyone know how to get 2 instances of sound juicer running?
[05:42] <GeorgeA> jpds, thanks.
[05:42] <usser_> SOURdiesel, yes there is and it is actually a recommended way to mount it i just thought that smbmount would look less complicated
[05:42] <blackjackshilaq> whew! now finally we can all go back to being closet racists
[05:43] <slamFIST> anyone here able to get vmware  workstation 6.05 to run with ubuntu 8.10
[05:43] <|JD|> hi, how do i get a .jar file to execute on kubuntu rather than be opened by ark/archive manager
[05:43] <usser_> slamFIST, i have 6.5
[05:43] <razel> hello
[05:44] <DasEi> !ot
[05:44] <SOURdiesel> usser_: it's something like mount -t cifs //<share name>/folder ... i forget the rest
[05:44] <x-men_> ?
[05:44] <usser_> SOURdiesel, same syntax as smbmount, smbmount=mount -t cifs the rest is the same
[05:45] <usser_> SOURdiesel, mount -t cifs //pcname/sharename /localdirectory
[05:45] <dennister> does anyone know how to get i touch with ubuntu forums? their usual reset-password system is broken :(
[05:45] <SOURdiesel> usser_: hmmm
[05:45] <Shovi> http://ismccainpresident.com/
[05:45] <intangir> intrepid brought back xmms?
[05:46] <usser_> intangir, dont think so still says package is unavailable
[05:47] <Some_Person> In Intrepid, I think my GDM is screwed up. I have automatic logon on. But when I log out and log back on, all I get is a black screen.
[05:47] <Shovi> :(
[05:47] <dennister> yay! for obama, a man who can actually orate...and a demorat :)
[05:48] <slamFIST> usser_: yea i know 6.5 works but i only have 6.05
[05:48] <xrar> i have partitioned my harddrive using gparted and im trying to find the UUID's of the partitions so i can add them into fstab.. but when i run 'blkid' the new partitons dont show.. any ideas???
[05:48] <jhotta> #ploneapp
[05:48] <dennister> forums help anyone???
[05:48] <Flannel> Shovi, dennister: this channel is for Ubuntu support, please take those things to ##politics or ##us-election
[05:48] <Some_Person> I like how the new theme in Intrepid tones down the orange. Back to ubuntu's brown themed roots.
[05:48] <SOURdiesel> usser_: there's also user and password in that command line somewhere
[05:48] <Flannel> dennister: #ubuntuforums
[05:48] <heinrich> les:  still there?
[05:48] <ozzilee> Hey all. Where do I start looking for a way to do some really gnarly input device hacking? I'd like to turn my trackball into a big scroll wheel.
[05:49] <razel> anyone .. why cant i see my other pc in the network?
[05:49] <SOURdiesel> i lost the wiki page to the mounting shared folders
[05:49] <razel>  i setup ubuntu 8.04 on both pc
[05:49] <razel>  i have installed the network
[05:49] <razel>  it works fine both have internet connection..
[05:49] <razel>  I just want to know how to connect the 2 pc together..
[05:49] <FloodBot1> razel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:49] <mosno> ozzilee: nice idea
[05:49] <Xpistos> Can someone please help me figure out why I do not see my ubuntu server in my network shares? I have done everything I can think of to get samba working
[05:49] <razel> ok
[05:49] <Some_Person> In Intrepid, I think my GDM is screwed up. I have automatic logon on. But when I log out and log back on, all I get is a black screen.
[05:49] <mosno> ozzilee: sort of
[05:49] <dennister> Flannel: no one was answering my support question, and why pick only on me when someone else mentioned obama first?
[05:49] <ozzilee> I used controllermate on OS X, it could do pretty much anything: http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/screenshots/
[05:49] <razel> how can i Connect both pc together?
[05:49] <toastedmilk> Kick me for being off topic if you must, but does anyone know a good channel for basic help with python?
[05:49] <usser_> SOURdiesel, just add -ouser=username,pass=password
[05:49] <usser_> SOURdiesel, at the end
[05:49] <mosno> toastedmilk: i assume you've tried #python
[05:50] <ditch64> when i installed Ubuntu on my computer, it wouldnt boot, it hit grub and said ERROR 21..... i plugged this same HDD into another computer and it booted RIGHT up
[05:50] <toastedmilk> monso: indeed, it said I couldn't join, I needed to be identified
[05:50] <toastedmilk> monso: I imagine I made some dumb rookie mistake?
[05:50] <eleaf> obama
[05:50] <ozzilee> I'm dismayed to find Linux to be less flexible than OS X in regard to input devices so far, but I'm sure I'm just looking in the wrong places...
[05:50] <Some_Person> Anyone?
[05:50] <ditch64> i am in total confusion
[05:50] <toastedmilk> mosno: indeed, it said I couldn't join, I needed to be identified
[05:50] <SJrX> For some reason I'm under the impression that Ubuntu has a built in backup system, I can't remember what it is though, any ideas?
[05:50] <toastedmilk> mosno: I imagine I made some dumb rookie mistake?
[05:51] <Flannel> dennister: This is independant of support, I picked on said other person as well.
[05:51] <mosno> toastedmilk: /msg nickserv help
[05:51] <Flannel> toastedmilk: You do need to be identified.  /msg nickserv help register, also see http://python.org/doc/ and http://diveintopython.org/
[05:51] <_miah> Hi I'm very vew to ubuntu just installed it, and I'm trying to access an external harddrive i backed files up from windows on
[05:51] <Xpistos> Can someone please help me figure out why I do not see my ubuntu server in my network shares? I have done everything I can think of to get samba working
[05:52] <dig> Do i need to install compiz-manager?
[05:52] <ditch64> when i installed Ubuntu on my computer, it wouldnt boot, it hit grub and said ERROR 21..... i plugged this same HDD into another computer and it booted RIGHT up could someone help me im so confused as to why my normal computer will not accept ubuntu
[05:52] <toastedmilk> Flannel, thanks for the links but I have plenty of tutorials, I just need a little bit of specific help with my programming
[05:52] <jport> dig: yes
[05:52] <dennister> Flannel: so perhaps you can help me? I can't login to ubuntuforums because their reset-password system isn't working...is there another way to notify/get in touch with them about this problem? that the link they send in email does NOT help you in any way reset the password?
[05:52] <xrar> i have partitioned my harddrive using gparted and im trying to find the UUID's of the partitions so i can add them into fstab.. but when i run 'blkid' the new partitons dont show.. any ideas???
[05:52] <_miah> it says unable to mount the volume 'OneTouch4'
[05:53] <ushimitsudoki> toastedmilk: i just joined #python (as i do from time to time). keep trying you are doing something wrong. there is good python help
[05:53] <Flannel> dennister: #ubuntuforums is the channel for the forums stuff
[05:53] <toastedmilk> ushimitsudoki: I don't know the password to get in.  IDENTIFY saiys I need a password
[05:53] <ditch64> im going to start crying in a minute lol
[05:54] <dennister> ty
[05:54] <ushimitsudoki> toastedmilk: you are having non-ubuntu problems. maybe read up on how to register a nick on freenode? in any case, this is not the place
[05:55] <\Kira> I cant write to a external harddisk mounted on my ubuntu server im connected by ssh to. Any help?
[05:55] <|JD|> repeating my question since no one answered me yet
[05:55] <Flannel> toastedmilk: You need to register with nickserv and be identified to join the python channel, this has been explained to you.  `/msg nickserv help register` will get you started.
[05:55] <|JD|> how do i get a .jar file to execute on kubuntu rather than be opened by ark/archive manager
[05:55] <dft> Are there any Altova-like free alternatives for working with XML?
[05:55] <Flannel> ditch64: This is installing it onto an external harddrive?
[05:56] <SegFaultAX> |JD|: install the java runtimes
[05:56] <|JD|> i did
[05:56] <ditch64> nope
[05:56] <|JD|> it runs fine on ubuntu
[05:56] <ditch64> Flannel, no this is an internal HD
[05:56] <|JD|> its just on kde that it opens with ark
[05:56] <Flannel> ditch64: Alright, how many drives do you have on this computer? (and the other?)
[05:56] <ditch64> 1
[05:56] <dig> sorry, I am on kubuntu. Is it the same using apt-get install kde-compiz-manager?
[05:56] <Xpistos> Can someone please help me figure out why I do not see my ubuntu server in my network shares? I have done everything I can think of to get samba working
[05:56] <ditch64> flannel, 1 on each
[05:57] <Flannel> ditch64: So, when you plugged this into the other computer, it had two? or you replaced it?
[05:57] <Xpistos> smb.conf, change to the correct network name, etc
[05:57] <ditch64> flannel, it had 2 but i took the other one out so now it just has the HDD from the other computer in it
[05:57] <SJrX> WHat is a good Ubuntu backup utility
[05:58] <Flannel> ditch64: So, both computers have the same hard drive in it (and its the only one) and one boots and the other doesn't?
[05:58] <\Kira> SJrX: keep, the one that comes with ubuntu
[05:58] <Flannel> !backup | SJrX
[05:58] <ditch64> flannel, correct
[05:58] <nikitis> The network install cd will not let me select wpa for wireless only wep,  Is there a commandline to tell it to use wpa?
[05:58] <Xpistos> No Help - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/share-ubuntu-home-directories-using-samba/
[05:59] <SegFaultAX> |JD|: try right clicking on the jar and open it with java, and set that as the default
[05:59] <Flannel> ditch64: Is this an IDE drive or SATA?
[05:59] <ditch64> IDE
[05:59] <|JD|> thing is, java doesnt appear on the list
[05:59] <Xpistos> No Help - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[05:59] <SegFaultAX> |JD|: /bin/java
[05:59] <|JD|> where do i find the java runtime on the applications list
[05:59] <|JD|> oh
[05:59] <|JD|> okay
[06:00] <ditch64> flannel, check PMs
[06:00] <Flannel> ditch64: Are you plugged into the same IDE channel on both computers? Primary Master
[06:00] <SegFaultAX> |JD|: /usr/bin rather
[06:01] <dig> Nevermind, I found it
[06:01] <Agent7629> dig: got it all working now?
[06:02] <|JD|> SegFaultAX: no luck, its not opening. it does run when i try 'java -jar <filename>' from the command line.
[06:02] <nikitis> Question for anyone, When installing via network install cd (mini.iso) How to you setup your network to use wpa?  It only gives me the option for wep.
[06:02] <SJrX> So don't use TimeVault is what you guys are saying
[06:03] <mintsoup> I am unable to ping computers on my LAN  please help! D:
[06:03] <nhasian> mintsoup: what is your ip address?
[06:04] <BARACK_OBAMA> hi
[06:04] <BARACK_OBAMA> hello :)
[06:04] <mintsoup> 192.168.1.3
[06:04] <BARACK_OBAMA> mintsoup
[06:04] <BARACK_OBAMA> hello
[06:04] <mintsoup> hi there
[06:04] <intangir> gross
[06:04] <Flannel> BARACK_OBAMA: Please take it elsewhere.
[06:04] <nhasian> mintsoup: is it automatically assigned from the DHCP server?  can you ping the router?
[06:04] <BARACK_OBAMA> mintsoup
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> whats the issue w/ the dhcp?
[06:05] <timecist> BARACK_OBAMA, please go pal around somewhere else
[06:05] <intangir> like kenya
[06:05] <intangir> where you were born
[06:05] <reqqit> Happy Obama Day, and I am trying to print to PDF in firefox, and nothing is happening - it seems to print, but no dialog comes up. 8.04 FF 3.0.3
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> is address not being given?
[06:05] <intangir> which disqualifies you from being president
[06:05] <freetown> i thought that it was nigeria?
[06:05]  * reqqit laughs at intangir 
[06:05] <Flannel> intangir: Please stop.
[06:05] <ValentineXX> intangir: lol
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> bitter republicans
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> lulz @ you
[06:05] <intangir> according to his own grandma, its kenya
[06:05] <mintsoup> yes i can ping the router
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> intangir is abitter southern republican
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> go commit suicide
[06:05] <BARACK_OBAMA> lulz
[06:06] <freetown> i must have remembered wrong...i thought he had a relation in nigeria
[06:06] <Agent7629> Flannel: Thank you :-D
[06:06] <Flannel> Please keep this channel on topic.  The topic is: Ubuntu Support.
[06:06] <ValentineXX> where is the ubuntu pakistan channel address? ubuntu urdu
[06:06] <nmh-j2graw> with a mostly default 8.04 install, I am seeing windows created below existing windows - any suggestions on how to start fixing this?
[06:06] <reqqit> So, printing from firefox -> PDF - nothing happens, can someone do a quick test see if it works on theirs?
[06:06] <intangir> nice to know my first amendment rights will be respected my the communists
[06:06] <intangir> oh wait, i just got kicked for stateing a fact
[06:06] <reqqit> goto google.com and click file, print, select PDF, what happens?
[06:06] <Xpistos> Is there a sambe channel
[06:07] <nhasian> mintsoup: so you can ping the router (and probably the internet too) but not other computers on your lan?
[06:07] <nmh-j2graw> thank you flannel!
[06:07] <reqqit> Xpistos, it is samba, right?
[06:07] <ksylvia1> What's a good utility to batch merge video files? avi/mpg/wmv, etc
[06:07]  * thedark_ commits hiri kiri
[06:07] <Agent7629> mintsoup: are the other machines on your network running firewalls? i.e. winxp running Norton Internet Security?
[06:08] <mintsoup> nhasian: ok that's interesting.. i can ssh to my server on the LAN by using its ip address, but not its name
[06:08] <\Kira> I cant write to a external harddisk mounted on my ubuntu server im connected by ssh to. Any help?
[06:08] <Flannel> !grub | ditch64, first link
[06:08] <reqqit> Did anyone try 8.04 / 3.0.3 - goto google, click file, print, and try and print to PDF from firefox? thank you please!
[06:08] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: what error, what filesystem on it?
[06:09] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: how could I tell the filesystem? I get a permissions error, even as root
[06:09]  * thedark_ cannot record his death scream because he only has Kubuntu and for some reason... he Cannot Record In IT!!!!AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[06:09] <Uplink> \Kira: you got permission to?
[06:09] <Agent7629> reqqit: give me a sec, ill go check
[06:09] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: oh, hmm...  well, what is it mounted as?
[06:09] <mintsoup> ok, so I can see computers on my network using their ip's, but not their host names.. any way I can resolve that?
[06:09] <\Kira> Uplink: yep, ive always had issues with automounting (wich I think is the cause).
[06:09] <freetown> mintsoup, fix /etc/resolv.conf
[06:09] <DigitalFiz> my sound quit working and the test feature in preferences -> sound gives errors on pulse,alsa and oss
[06:10] <DigitalFiz> how do i start to debug this
[06:10] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: Sorry, but how could I find that out? I turned it on before starting the server, so its automounted (at least it mounted at all, unlike my other server)
[06:10] <freetown> mintsoup, you need to know your dns settings...
[06:10] <DigitalFiz> pulse says connection refused
[06:10] <mintsoup> freetown: /etc/resolv.conf contains 'nameserver <router ip address>'.. that seems right doesn't it?
[06:10] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: what does 'mount' say? (for that mountpoint)
[06:10] <freetown> mintsoup, ah...but...that is probably for OUTSIDE
[06:11] <mintsoup> oh
[06:11] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc type vfat (rw)
[06:11] <mintsoup> er
[06:11] <freetown> mintsoup, you get an answer for 'dig www.yahoo.com'?
[06:11] <Agent7629> reqqit: mine saved just fine, it defaulted to location /home/user/PDF
[06:11] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: It looks right to me... I cant figure out whats wrong...
[06:11] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: hmm, can you read the contents of files on it?
[06:11] <dig> Thx, guys. It works, but windows cannot resize
[06:11] <mintsoup> freetown, yes I do
[06:11] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yep, I just cant change anything
[06:11] <thedark_> I have Krec and Audacity... I can't record in either
[06:11] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: do you see anything interesting in the log files?
[06:11] <Uplink> \Kira: so its a problem with mounting external HDD?
[06:12] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: disclaimer: I don't know what the problem is, just poking around
[06:12] <thedark_> jeezy creezy do I really have to make a partition in Vista just to record stuff???!!!!
[06:12] <Uplink> nmh-j2graw: lol wtf
[06:12] <\Kira> Uplink: im having a conversation with nmh-j2graw about it. not sure yet
[06:12] <freetown> mintsoup, your router will handling Internet names. But internally...you need something else.
[06:12] <Flannel> !repeat | thedark_
[06:12] <acke> how do i pipe output from a cli command to a file? command | logfile ?
[06:12] <dig> that is very interesting.
[06:12] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: can you unmount it?
[06:12] <freetown> s/handling/handle/
[06:12] <Flannel> acke: command > file
[06:12] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: let me see....
[06:12] <thedark_> !patience
[06:12] <acke> Flannel, thx
[06:12] <nmh-j2graw> Uplink: if I knew the answer, I would just say that - much easier
[06:12] <reqqit> Agent7629, wow. yeah they could mention that. thanks
[06:12] <Flannel> acke: That overwrites, to append use >>
[06:13] <Uplink> nmh-j2graw: depends
[06:13] <freetown> mintsoup, what OSes have you got internally?
[06:13] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: device is busy.... then it repeats that once again
[06:13] <mintsoup> freetown, now i'm able to resolve hostnames on my lan... but the ip's are on a diff subnet? i think it's called?  127.0 instead of 192.168, which it is normally for lans isn't it?
[06:13] <Agent7629> reqqit: no problem, i just figured it out myself cause i had no real use for it before (accidentally tabbed to window and saw PDF folder... happy surfing
[06:13] <pjKevin> whats a regression?
[06:13] <thedark_> man when Ubuntu was updated and I got my headphones to work, I was pumped... now recording is a hassle... oh Linux, loving you is so hard...
[06:13] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: oh, okay.  I assume it is an external hard disk - usb?
[06:13] <tuxedocurly> I have a quick question. What is ﻿vmsplice()???
[06:13] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yep
[06:14] <mintsoup> freetown i dunno,.. seems to have resolved itself, but it's still seems kinda strange..
[06:14] <pjKevin> thedark_, im in the same sitch, its a tough love
[06:14] <tuxedocurly> some user told me i was susceptible to it, and i should update my kernel.
[06:14] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: do you have other external, usb disks that DO work?
[06:14] <freetown> mintsoup, er...127 ain't that you want to contact your other boxes
[06:14] <mintsoup> freetown oh haha
[06:14] <pjKevin> serisouly, i'm reading on planet ubuntu -- whats a regression?
[06:14] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I havnt tried any
[06:14] <freetown> mintsoup, are the other computers running Windows?
[06:14] <mintsoup> freetown, i know what's happening.. i connected to another computer and forgot, so i typed 'ping <nameofthecomputer> and it gave me the loopback
[06:14] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I have one, and I can try it now, but i need a minute...
[06:14] <mintsoup> freetown, some are windows, some are linux
[06:15] <Flannel> pjKevin: When something is working in a version, and then breaks in a later version.
[06:15] <mintsoup> specifically the comp im most concerned with is an ubuntu server
[06:15] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I am thinking that your problem sounds like maybe something is unhappy in the kernel or the disk (and misbehaving) - but again, I am not certain
[06:15] <pjKevin> flannel: ahhh, meaning they take the code back to the other version?
[06:15] <russell__> what program can I use to burn .avi files to a dvd to play them on my dvd player?
[06:15] <freetown> mintsoup, you then need to either setup dns or wins for internal name resolution
[06:15] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: testing with another sounds like a good idea, also testing that disk with a different computer as well
[06:15] <Flannel> pjKevin: no, no.  That they've changed something in the newer version (adding some other feature, cleaning up code, etc) that breaks the old support.
[06:16] <SOURdiesel> russel_: devede
[06:16] <thedark_> I know its not Ubuntu's fault... few hardware manufacturers support them, so what it can do is amazing in itself... but it still sucks!!!!!!!!!
[06:16] <mintsoup> freetown.. every other computer on the network is able to resolve the hostnames..  are you talking about a change to this machine locally?
[06:16] <pjKevin> flannel: icic, ok thanks
[06:16] <tuxedocurly> What is ﻿vmsplice()? some user told me that i should update my kernel bc i was suceptable to it. and he also told me that he would be sniffing my network activity, and he knew my ISP name and everything, how did he know all of that?
[06:16] <russell__> SOURdiesel: dang that prog is so slow !!!
[06:16] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw:  ugh... now stuff is really messed up... The harddisk now appears to be mounted according to mount, but I cant see anything in /media/sdc, and the disk I connected didnt mount..
[06:17] <pjKevin> All Hail OBAMA --- w00t
[06:17] <SOURdiesel> russel_: let me know if you find a better one
[06:17] <russell__> SOURdiesel: know anything faster?
[06:17] <SOURdiesel> russel_:  haha
[06:17] <tuxedocurly> ﻿What is ﻿vmsplice()? some user told me that i should update my kernel bc i was suceptable to it. and he also told me that he would be sniffing my network activity, and he knew my ISP name and everything, how did he know all of that?
[06:17] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: okay, now we know more
[06:17] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: Ill try switching the harddisk over to my other system. Thanks for the starting point. I think this is more of a thing for the forums...
[06:17] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: we know more? I got more confused, lol
[06:18] <russell__> SOURdiesel: guess I'll have to use it then :)...OBAMA!!!!
[06:18] <sparr> im trying to connect to a "normal" windows-friendly pptp vpn, using nm-applet, and getting this error, help?  "The VPN connecton [name] failed because there were no valid VPN secrets."
[06:18] <tuxedocurly> anyone help plz?
[06:18] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: we know something of where it is breaking.  this is better than not knowing where the breakage is.
[06:18] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: google it?
[06:18] <SOURdiesel> russel_:  at least it works right
[06:18] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I see
[06:18] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: i did.. anyhow how could he know my ISP's name and everything?
[06:18] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: do you have another computer you can try one or both of the disks on?
[06:19] <thedark_> is linux more or less popular in the US compared to Asia?
[06:19] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: i can know your ISP right now
[06:19] <russell__> SOURdiesel: Yeah I guess...peace out :)
[06:19] <thedark_> particularly South Korea and Japan
[06:19] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: The disk I just plugged in works for sure, I can try the harddisk in a second
[06:19] <freetown> mintsoup, every other computer can resolve names? Then check for the differences in settigns then...
[06:19] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: how?
[06:19] <Agent7629> tuxedocurly: was this on irc?
[06:19] <tuxedocurly> Agent7692: yes
[06:19] <Flannel> thedark_: Try ##linux, or #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for technical support.  Thanks.
[06:19] <tuxedocurly> Agent7629: yes
[06:19] <mintsoup> freetown; ok ;p
[06:19] <ValentineX> how to uninstall an application ? sudo removeall ? like this some command
[06:19] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: type /whois tuxedocurly
[06:19] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, I guess you could unplug both disks, reboot the machine and then try the second one (see if it works better)
[06:20] <mintsoup> freetown and everyone else thanks for your assistance
[06:20] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: okay, ill try that
[06:20] <Flannel> ValentineX: sudo apt-get remove packages, but synaptic makes it easy if you're using Gnome (or Adept if you're using KDE)
[06:20] <mintsoup> however I have another problem..  The restricted drivers app properly lists my nvidia video card, but when I try to activate the driver, nothing happens..  is this a known problem?
[06:21] <ValentineX> Flannel: me using gnome, thanks
[06:21] <Flannel> !synaptic | ValentineX
[06:21] <marcustomized> wut happened to your 'gay agenda' blog
[06:21] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: well, the external harddisk wont reach to my other computer without like ten minutes of moving, so I cant try it the other machine. My server is booting up now
[06:21] <aoirthoir> I am trying to turn off tooltips across gnome completely. There is a property gtk-enable-tooltips that has a default value of TRUE. An ubuntu report claimed turning it to FALSE should turn them off. I have tried, but do not know the proper way to do so, since I do not know anything about .gtkrc files. Does anyone know a way I can do this for all my apps?
[06:21] <Dezine> Can someone help me out? I'm trying to install the latest World of Warcraft and it doesn't seem to work. Trying to run the patch in the Terminal results in a nice long list of errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67748/
[06:21] <freetown> mintsoup, have you tried running Nvidia X settings?
[06:22] <Flannel> Dezine: #winehq may be able to support you better
[06:22] <Filled-Void> Hello all , Just had a rather basic question. Assuming I had a moderately new computer. How much time am I looking forward to if I chose to install Ubuntu with the default options.
[06:22] <Dezine> Alright, thanks.
[06:22] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: thanks bro!
[06:22] <Flannel> Filled-Void: Maybe an hour?  Its pretty quick.
[06:22] <mintsoup> freetown, the driver is not installed.. so neither is nvidia-settings
[06:22] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: np... btw, who was the user who told you that?
[06:23] <kelvin911> hi , will ubuntu infected by rootkit?
[06:23] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: madara
[06:23] <Filled-Void> Flannel, Thank you :). Just wanted to confirm if I was doing something wrong .
[06:23] <mintsoup> kelvin911 it's always a possibility ;)
[06:23] <kelvin911> how?
[06:23] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: the /media/sdc/ directory is still there, and the harddisk is unplugged. But there is nothing in the directory. Mount reports the harddisk is not mounted. Ill plug in the other disk
[06:23] <freetown> mintsoup, synaptic should either tell you why you cannot install the nvidia driver or it will do it for you
[06:24] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: in what channel
[06:24] <tuxedocurly> flannel: do you have any idea what ﻿vmsplice() is?
[06:24] <mintsoup> freetown: ok so should I try through synaptic instead of the restricted drivers manager then?
[06:24] <freetown> mintsoup, did you mark it for installation?
[06:24] <Flannel> tuxedocurly: nope
[06:24] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: hold on
[06:24] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: he was in the #politics channel
[06:24] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: opps, I just plugged it in :(
[06:24] <tuxedocurly> Flannel: ok thx
[06:24] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it didnt mount, though
[06:24] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, lets see  - you plugged in the second one you tried?
[06:24] <nmh-j2graw> (this time)
[06:25] <freetown> mintsoup, first install the nvidia-xxx (glx|new) driver package for your card
[06:25] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yes, I just plugged in the second one
[06:25] <krishna> I was trying to build gnome-games from source.. I have built most of the dependencies.. but still i get this error.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67751/  can someone have a look at it?
[06:25] <ValentineX> Flannel: thank u :D
[06:25] <mintsoup> freetown: what's the difference?
[06:25] <Flannel> krishna: Why are you trying to build it from source?
[06:25] <roy_hobbs> Hey.  Can anyone tell me how I can drag windows between separate x-screens?
[06:25] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: might i ask why you are curious?
[06:25] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: that might be considered as a hack threat
[06:26] <freetown> mintsoup, er...can't say really...nvidia-glx apparently for geforce4 and nvidia-new for newer chips
[06:26] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: then what do i do???
[06:26] <roy_hobbs> Or give a command to move a window from one screen to another...
[06:26] <Uplink> tuxedocurly:  port scanning a remote host without permission is a serious thing
[06:26] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: still not mounted?
[06:26] <Flannel> !cloak | Uplink, tuxedocurly
[06:26] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: no, I can try to mount it manually
[06:26] <kev_> Hello
[06:26] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: okay
[06:26] <mintsoup> freetown; k
[06:26] <CITguy-Artemis> Anybody know what's changed in 8.10 that is preventing me from installing my NVIDIA drivers?
[06:26] <freetown> mintsoup, i was an ati user so i can't really tell you the details for nvidia
[06:27] <Uplink> Flannel: wrong bro... he is telling me someone told him he is vulnerable to something...
[06:27] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: my desktop has that issue, too. It refuses to automount devices plugged in after startup
[06:27] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: the dude also said that he would be sniffing my internet traffic nd stuff
[06:27] <mrynit> I am updating 8.04 to 8.10. If i put my laptop into sleep and loose my internet connection will the update break my system?
[06:27] <Uplink> Flannel: no need for the !cloak bro...
[06:27] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: i dunno if it was just empty threats or what, so i came here
[06:27] <Flannel> tuxedocurly: Look into getting an unaffiliated cloak
[06:27] <Uplink> tuxedocurly: lets take this to PM
[06:27] <kev_> Anyone know how to fix the ubuntu 8.10 usplash bug? i'm waiting to customize the slpash but when doing so it just shows a text bootup?
[06:27] <tuxedocurly> Uplink: ok
[06:27] <kev_> wanting*
[06:27] <Uplink> Flannel: the problem is that his ISP is private... idk whats going on
[06:27] <melichar> having a build problem
[06:27] <melichar> XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no
[06:27] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: What would the filesystem type be for a 125 megabyte usb stick?
[06:28] <mintsoup> freetown: well this is my laptop, so i still have my desktop to go, we'll see how the ati drivers work out for me there ;p
[06:28] <freetown> kev_, just ask
[06:28] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: vfat maybe
[06:28] <krishna> Flannel: taking the first step towards contribution..
[06:28] <kev_> freetown i am asking? How can i fix the usplash error?
[06:28] <freetown> mintsoup, okay. a recent one will probably need nvidia-new package
[06:28] <Flannel> krishna: Ah, you might want to try #ubuntu-motu then, building packages, etc.
[06:28] <freetown> kev_, oh. dunno. missed it
[06:29] <krishna> Flannel: thank you.
[06:29] <melichar> im having a compiling error, XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no
[06:29] <kev_> humm ty anyway, freetown
[06:29] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: ... and?
[06:30] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: It displayed the help section for mount, I think my syntax is incorrect... this is what I used: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc/ /media/sdc vfat
[06:30] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: oh, nvm i found the problem, i think :)
[06:30] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: one too many vfats
[06:30] <sparr> how do i configure a vpn connection in kde?
[06:30] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: does it not work if you just do mount /dev/sdc /media/sdc ?
[06:31] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: no, it requests a type.
[06:31] <nmh-j2graw> (with the correct device path)
[06:31] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I think I have the wrong dev
[06:31] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: hmm quite possible
[06:31] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: what release are you running?
[06:31] <melichar> checking for XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no
[06:31] <melichar> configure: WARNING: Some features will be disabled
[06:31] <melichar> ./configure: line 5005: =1: command not found
[06:31] <melichar> checking for main in -lXpm... no
[06:31] <melichar> configure: error: "*** i need XPM stuff ***"
[06:31] <FloodBot1> melichar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: ubuntu server 8.04
[06:32] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I used to know a command to show all devices, but I forgot it a bit ago...
[06:32] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: lsusb ?
[06:32] <\Kira> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 3538:0042 Power Quotient International Co., Ltd Cool Drive U339 Flash Disk
[06:32] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: or dmesg
[06:33] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it had quiet a bit of information for sdc on dmesg, but it was errors.
[06:33] <scientes> how do i change the color for the tops and bottom of the compiz cube?
[06:33] <MrPeepers310> ok in genome is there anyway to align the icons horizontaly on the desktop instead of vertically?
[06:33] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: such as?
[06:34] <Agent7629> scientes: give me a quick second and ill get the exact setting, but i think its under Cube Color
[06:34] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: ill do a pastebin
[06:34] <Agent7629> scientes: Desktop Cube => Appearance Tab => Cube color...
[06:34] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67757/
[06:34] <melichar> ok heres my problem . http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/ , some compile problem
[06:35] <scientes> thx
[06:35] <CITguy-Artemis> Is the Ibex kernel compiled for xen?
[06:35] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it recognizes the size of the stick, but the rest are errors
[06:35] <Agent7629> scientes: can also scroll down for cube cap and put images on there if you want .. hope that helped
[06:35] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: simple: try sdc1
[06:35] <r_rehashed> hello. i am trying to upgrade from the alternate cd. i have mounted it on /media/cdrom0. after i run cdromupgrade, it tells me to download another 521 MB of files. Is this necessary? Why doesn't it get the packages from the cd?
[06:35] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: oh, lol. Never thought of that :)
[06:35] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: more complete: you can check what the partitions are and then mount one of those
[06:36] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: it mounted fine, aside from having to perform it manually
[06:36] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: and can you list files? read file contents? write file contents? create new files?
[06:37] <r_rehashed> i have a download limit. so i can't download another 521 mb. please help
[06:37] <CLINUX> lol go to a friends place r_rehashed
[06:37] <melichar> can anyone help me? Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:37] <Flannel> r_rehashed: Assuming those files are on the CD, it will use the CD ones, yes.
[06:38] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: as root, yes I can make and change files
[06:38] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: as a normal user, no
[06:38] <Flannel> r_rehashed: It says it has all that to download, but it'll quickly reduce that number when it sees theyre on the CD
[06:38] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: great!
[06:38] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: That was pretty much the same as my desktop, I should look into that...
[06:38] <r_rehashed> Flannel: oh ok. thank you :)
[06:38] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I don't like your other usb thing, I think you should seriously consider a new enclosure and/or disk
[06:39] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: You mean the external harddisk?
[06:39] <melichar> can anyone help me? Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:39] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: as for root vs. user, vfat doesn't know about users or somesuch.  the way linux works around this is to pretend that everything in that filesystem is owned by one user.
[06:39] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I see, thats cool
[06:39] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I think you can mount it so that your normal user owns (and can read/write) the files
[06:40] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: yes, the external
[06:40] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: maybe try to unmount the little one, unplug it, replug it and then mount (make sure it really works)
[06:40] <CLINUX> Please help melichar
[06:40] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: okay, ill try that. One sec
[06:41] <CLINUX> anyone?
[06:41] <MrPeepers310> ok in genome is there anyway to align the icons horizontaly on the desktop instead of vertically?
[06:41] <melichar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:41] <CLINUX> ?
[06:41] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I think I know why I got the device is busy error, i was in the harddisks directory while trying to unmount it
[06:42] <sudoroot> MrPeepers310: i think you can just drag them around
[06:42] <sudoroot> to wherever u want
[06:42] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, that is one cause.  I think you can use fuser or lsof to check if anything is using the device
[06:42] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: (fyi, in the future)
[06:43] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: lol, it worked.
[06:43] <cr4z3d> i have a problem. i just upgraded to Intrepid 8.10 from 8.04 and now my laptops screen constantly flickers
[06:43] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: yay
[06:43] <cr4z3d> it's unusable at this point
[06:43] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I think this was all a problem of me not using the right commands and the system not automounting
[06:43] <sparr> cr4z3d: intrepid is pretty buggy :(
[06:43] <melichar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/
[06:44] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: on the up side - it sounds lik eyou have it under control
[06:44] <cr4z3d> sparr, i figured it wouldn't be that bad since it was a final.. but i guess i was wrong?
[06:44] <dan_> join /bah
[06:44] <sparr> cr4z3d: we all were
[06:44] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: Thanks a bunch for the help! That solves alot of my network problems ive been trying to experiment with. Yeah I think I got it, but I do have one question about the ubuntu server if you have time
[06:44] <MrPeepers310> sudoroot: but they wont stay there
[06:44] <b33r> sparr, 8.10 works great for me no bugs so far..
[06:45] <MrPeepers310> meh screw it, i need to restart anyways
[06:45] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: as long as you can accept 'i dont know' as a possible answer
[06:45] <cr4z3d> sparr, there's no way to quickly undo it is there? besides installing from scratch
[06:45] <sparr> nope
[06:45] <sudoroot> MrPeepers310: try right click and read the settings on the popup menu... unlock it or something
[06:45] <sparr> im probably reinstalling soon
[06:46] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: the system seems slow to update on some things. For instance: I make a group and put myself in it, then I use the groups command to see what groups im in, and the groups command doesnt update until I reboot, but the file permissions and everything change. Its the same with deleting files... Is this normal for ubuntu server?
[06:46] <nmh-j2graw> sparr: cr4z3d: what are you trying to undo?
[06:46] <faria> hello how to adduser ?????/
[06:46] <cr4z3d> nmh-j2graw, upgrading to 8.10
[06:46] <sudoroot> can anyone here can point me in the right direction for computer help?
[06:46] <sparr> nmh-j2graw: intrepid upgrade, it's horrible, especially in kubuntu
[06:46] <melichar> ive been trying to work on this compiler for hours, just got a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10, any help , http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/  . Thanks
[06:46] <r_rehashed> Flannel: it's still downloading from the ubuntu server. :/
[06:47] <sudoroot> my desktop doesnt want to boot anymore... it boots up and shuts down
[06:47] <nmh-j2graw> cr4z3d: hmm... may be bigger pain than a reinstall, but you might be able to use pinning with apt-get or aptitude (maybe)
[06:47] <\Kira> faria: from command line, its "sudo adduser PUTNAMEHERE". Im not sure about gui
[06:47] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I think you have to logout/login for the group membership to take
[06:47] <SmellyMelly> YO
[06:48] <melichar> ive been trying to work on this compiler for hours, just got a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10, any help , http://paste.ubuntu.com/67756/  . Thanks
[06:48] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: I see, any idea about the files, and sometimes when I use the screen program some programs appear to be frozen, but they are actually working fine.
[06:48] <calebH> faria: in gnome (default ubuntu install) goto System > Administration > Users and Groups
[06:48] <calebH> faria: it should be pretty easy from there...
[06:48] <snoffy> #lublin
[06:48] <aoirthoir> I am trying to turn off tooltips across gnome completely. There is a property gtk-enable-tooltips that has a default value of TRUE. An ubuntu report claimed turning it to FALSE should turn them off. I have tried, but do not know the proper way to do so, since I do not know anything about .gtkrc files. Does anyone know a way I can do this for all my apps?
[06:49] <melichar> ok, back to windows for me, thanks
[06:49] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: I have had screen not update for two cases: x-off and history (I don't kno wif that is what happens to you or not)
[06:49] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: do you have xpm?
[06:49] <razel> how can i share user's folder at the other pc on my network?
[06:50] <melichar> yes
[06:50] <mintsoup> i have compiz enabled on this computer.. what package can I install to get compiz-config?
[06:50] <dan_> Assistance: Any ideas ? i have a command in a shell file says "  export MATRIX_PATH=$MTTPATH/trans/m//    " Is the "//" fine ??
[06:50] <melichar> i have libxpm4, xpm2wico, xpmutils
[06:50] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: and the dev stuff (headers and whatnot) ? do you have much experience in building from source?
[06:50] <FAIRY> hello
[06:50] <calebH> melichar: compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:51] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: what release?
[06:51] <\Kira> melichar: hmm... I wonder if it could all be conisidence. To be quiet honest I was pretty frustrated with all of the stuff not working and just about ready to give up until I decided to give it one last shot tonight, looks like it might work out anyways. I just have to get better accomidated with the command line, I think...
[06:51] <calebH> oops, that was for mintsoup
[06:51] <mintsoup> thanks
[06:51] <melichar> all Im trying to do is compile a program to a install package
[06:51] <Pupeno> is there an applet to show me the price of shares on my desktop bar?
[06:51] <FIxmelsproblem> He just installed Intrepid nmh-j2graw
[06:51] <calebH> Pupeno: Invest?
[06:51] <melichar> nmh-j2graw xmputils is 1:3.5.7-1
[06:52] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: I will assume that means no, not really.  try adding the package libxpm-dev and see if that helps
[06:52] <nmh-j2graw> FIxmelsproblem: oh, okay
[06:52] <Pupeno> calebH: thanks.
[06:52] <FIxmelsproblem> I have the program working and I dont have xpmutils installed nmh-j2graw
[06:52] <dan_> Assistance: Any ideas ? i have a command in a shell file says "  export MATRIX_PATH=$MTTPATH/trans/m//    " Is the "//" fine ??
[06:52] <r_rehashed> why is the distribution upgrade program getting packages from the Net instead of the alternate cd?? >:-P
[06:53] <whileimhere> Hi. I need a suggestion on what program to install. I would like to be able to make some digital tracks like I would in the MS Windows program Fruity Loops. Is there anything like this for Linux?
[06:53] <FIxmelsproblem> http://hem.bredband.net/b400150/ that is the program
[06:53] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: hmm... I wonder if it could all be conisidence. To be quiet honest I was pretty frustrated with all of the stuff not working and just about ready to give up until I decided to give it one last shot tonight, looks like it might work out anyways. I just have to get better accomidated with the command line, I think...
[06:53] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: Thanks been looking for a xpm library for hours
[06:53] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: did it work?
[06:53] <mintsoup> yay 8.10 rocks :D
[06:53] <calebH> anybody have any luck getting their VPN connection to work with this new networkmanager?  I need detailed documentation on it, or some help getting mine to work...
[06:53] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: well, hopefully things are easier now
[06:53] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yeah, thanks a bunch for the help
[06:54] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: new error, one sec
[06:54] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: glad I could hlep
[06:54] <nmh-j2graw> (even if I can't spell)
[06:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: lol, night
[06:54] <nmh-j2graw> \Kira: see you later
[06:54] <melichar> nmh-j2graaw http://paste.ubuntu.com/67770/
[06:54] <\Kira> nmh-j2graw: yep
[06:55] <metrick> How do i add brushes to gimp?
[06:55] <metrick> on ubuntu 8.10
[06:56] <b33r> melichar, do sudo make install
[06:56] <melichar> b33r: i did, same error
[06:57] <_coredump_> moinsen
[06:58] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: can you pastebin etswitch.c and fcntl2.h (separately)
[06:59] <melichar> k one sec
[07:01] <melichar> all i could find was etswitch.c
[07:01] <melichar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67775/
[07:02] <paul68> `Tony: are you here?
[07:02] <metrick> anyone?
[07:02] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:03] <sparr> how do i fix the (seemingly common) problem of my ethernet and wifi device numbers incrementing every time i reboot?  i am using eth68 right now
[07:04] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: okay, hold on a minute
[07:04] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: thanks
[07:05] <N00boontu> hey anyone know how to transfer my Ipod songs onto my HD with ANY music player at all?
[07:07] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: umm, maybe this is something to ask the author about...
[07:07] <nmh-j2graw> N00boontu: have you tried songbird?
[07:08] <mib_h17mjr> i have the same program working on my system nmh-j2graw
[07:08] <melichar> nmh-j2graw: alright, as long as i now have the complining librarys :) thanks for the fix
[07:08] <nmh-j2graw> melichar: yeah, good luck
[07:08] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:08] <N00boontu> nmh-j2graw, where does songbird auto put my stuff?
[07:08] <nmh-j2graw> mib_h17mjr: feel free to offer some help (I am not sure what the problem is, now)
[07:09] <nmh-j2graw> N00boontu: no idea - I would expect it to be configurable
[07:09] <N00boontu> ok, its working, thanks! nmh-j2graw
[07:09] <nmh-j2graw> hmm, if only I could solve my problems so easily...
[07:12] <Neurologic> Hey guys, I know this is probably a really common question, but I'm having a hard time deciding, for a linux newbie, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:12] <koo> exit
[07:12] <Rolypoly> have u tried both?
[07:12] <Flannel> Neurologic: You can try both if you'd like.  But Ubuntu, especially right now, is probably a better choice.
[07:12] <sudoroot> Neurologic: opengeu... u will b amazed...
[07:13] <Neurologic> Flannel, why do you say what?
[07:13] <Neurologic> opengeu? O_o...what?
[07:14] <sudoroot> Neurologic: u can install one... and just install the environment later... boot into ubuntu or kubuntu or xubuntu or other desktop environment... i prefer lxde or xubuntu
[07:14] <hubar> Hi is there firefox 3.1 beta in ubuntu repository?
[07:14] <b33r> Neurologic, in #ubuntu people would recommend ubuntu in #kubuntu they will recommend kubuntu :P it's a matter of personal opinion try ubuntu imo if you didn't like it you can install kubuntu desktop on ubuntu
[07:14] <sudoroot> Neurologic: ubuntu on steroids....
[07:14] <Flannel> Neurologic: Because a new version of KDE (that's a massive rewrite) (Kubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu has Gnome) just came out, so some aspects are still being figured out, etc.
[07:14] <Neurologic> Flannel, that's what I was concerned about, I tried KDE4 when it first first came out, and I was terribly confused.
[07:15] <Neurologic> Plus, it seemed rather...buggy.
[07:15] <Rolypoly> apparently KDE4 wasn't very fun, the newer version of it was much improved
[07:15] <sudoroot> http://opengeu.intilinux.com/ Neurologic
[07:15] <VBNewUser> ubuntuforums.org is down
[07:15] <Flannel> Neurologic: so there you go.  Go with Ubuntu, and you can always install KDE and try it out again at a later time if you'd like.
[07:15] <brain187> or you could make ubuntu look like vista like i did. i have a screenshot i could send if anyone is intrested
[07:16] <Rolypoly> you changed it to La Trene?
[07:16] <hubar> Hi is there firefox 3.1 beta in ubuntu repository? If yes, what repository is it in??
[07:17] <Neurologic> Flannel, I suppose, I'm just really still trying to learn the basics, and when I saw KDE4, it was pretty...but...it was kind of confusing =S I guess I'll just try Ubuntu first.
[07:17] <sudoroot> Neurologic: install ubuntu... start command line... sudo apt-get intall kde... and there u have gnome and kde... u can log out of ubuntu and change session to kde and log into kubuntu... i have environment now... kde, gnome, lxde, xpde, e17
[07:17] <VBNewUser> ubuntuforums.org site is currently down. can someone help me?
[07:17] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:17] <kattollikisd> I am looking for a package that have the Spanish language for the Open Office ( so the Open fix the spanish's word when they are bad ) Sorry forma english :( someone here know about it?
[07:18] <Flannel> !es | kattollikisd
[07:18] <samborambo> anyone here a Transmission expert?
[07:18] <mynameistux> ! id
[07:18] <VBNewUser> and now Ubuntu has become highly unstable.
[07:18] <mynameistux> ! en
[07:18] <Neurologic> sudoroot: I understand maybe half of that, and...I don't really have the space to have a million different GUIs =(
[07:18] <mynameistux> hehe
[07:19] <nmh-j2graw> Neurologic: I am using 8.04 and it seems quite nice - I think your idea of trying gnome ubuntu is a fine idea.
[07:19] <kattollikisd> ﻿I am looking for a package that have the Spanish language for the Open Office ( so the Open fix the spanish's word when they are bad ) Sorry forma english :( someone here know about it? ( ubuntu-es dousen't answer my question )
[07:20] <Neurologic> Thanks
[07:20] <sudoroot> Neurologic: i would recommend ubuntu or xubuntu... xubuntu is much faster and looks the same as ubuntu...
[07:20] <Neurologic> I'm just waiting for the partition to resize.
[07:20] <nmh-j2graw> kattollikisd: have you tried downloading a spanish language pack for openoffice? (maybe just the dictionary)
[07:20] <mynameistux> I think it should be called myspell, for spanish, something like myspell -es
[07:21] <VBNewUser> I keep getting disconnected.
[07:21] <Steve1> hi. When i resume from suspend I see errors about my rt61 wireless card flash on the console before the gui appears. Can anyone tell me if/where these would be logged?
[07:21] <mynameistux> /var/log
[07:21] <kattollikisd> ﻿nmh-j2graw, I don't know what is the name of that package...
[07:21] <mynameistux> or, system, admin, system logs
[07:21] <nmh-j2graw> Steve1: have you already looked at /var/log/messages and simliar?
[07:21] <gnuskool> ok, now whars with the busybox login on booting ubuntu?
[07:22] <hubar> kattollikisd: try myspell-es
[07:22] <hubar> kattollikisd: That is package name.
[07:22] <frybye> katt - if i remember right you need to add the spanish dictionary plugin within the open office...
[07:22] <frybye> hubar - dosent he do that within open office???
[07:22] <reduz> QUESTION: Ubuntu scraps my DVDs when recording. Tried 2 different DVD recorders (sony and acer), both work flawless under windows, but under linux they fail recording with write errors like one out of two times. Any ideas?
[07:23] <kattollikisd> hubar, you save my @ss...
[07:23] <hubar> frybye: I dunno, but it doesn't hurt to try :)
[07:23] <ray_> hi got a problem a windows program in wine on ubutnu 8.10 will not uninstall what i do now
[07:23] <kattollikisd> hubar, a lot of thank u
[07:23] <hubar> kattollikisd: So that is the right answer?
[07:23] <ray_> i remove the wine from system loeft program here
[07:23] <ray_> what i do to remove it
[07:23] <ray_> thanks so much
[07:23] <hubar> kattollikisd: great! glad to help. :)
 actually, I think it was I who suggested that
[07:23] <frybye> hubar: I will go look inside oo... brb
[07:24] <mynameistux> Hi. I am having a problem with ubuntu. When I boot, it says that fsck has failed. This is probably because I grew some partitions, and shrunk some others from a gparted livecd. How do I tell ubuntu that all is well, and it doesn't need to drop me at a root prompt at boot?
[07:24] <ray_> any one see my q
[07:24] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: wny not fix the filesystem?
[07:24] <milligan_> When checking top, I see that www-data is running python here and there. Is there any way of checking WHAT script it's running ?
[07:24] <mynameistux> how?
[07:24] <kattollikisd> hubar ^_^
[07:24] <kattollikisd> mynameistux, jajajaja really :P
[07:24] <tri> can anyone know how check  modem is install in ubuntu8.1
[07:25] <ray_> see noi help :(
[07:25] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: fsck /path/to/device (when it is not mounted rw)
[07:25] <frybye> ray_ normally to be done other way round.. while wine is still installed.. use it to remove all the windows proggs and then remove wine itself..
[07:25] <ray_> frybye what i do now
[07:25] <ray_> it sed it uninstalled it when it didnt
[07:25] <ray_> what i do now frybye
[07:25] <ray_> ?
[07:25] <mynameistux> so, fsck /media/sda2 when I get the prompt at bood
[07:26] <mynameistux> *boot
[07:26] <frybye> ray_ no idea to be honest.. i am a relativ newbie myself.. see what others say.. perhaps you can re-install wine - delete the windows proggs..
[07:26] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10 amd64: Trying to install the latest mplayer, but it asks for liblame0, I try to install liblame0 from launchpad, but get an error
[07:26] <AdemoS> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/liblame0/3.97-0.0
[07:26] <gnuskool> why do i get a busybox login instead of ubuntu?
[07:26] <ray_> any one eles help me with my q
[07:26] <reduz> ok maybe i should make my question simpler:
[07:26] <frybye> alternative is to just delete all the related folders perhaps - in win that would be bad but in linux not so bad as far as I know..
[07:26] <reduz> WHY does Ubuntu scraps my DVDs when recording? :( Windows works fine!
[07:27] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: something lik ethat.  and then when it finds errors, you get to deal with that.
[07:27] <Flannel> ray_: To remove the wine programs and settings, delete ~/.wine
[07:27] <wouter> i updated to intrepid, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:27] <ray_> flannel how i do this
[07:27] <ray_> \im new to ubuntu 8.10
[07:27] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: also, you might want to make sure you are cleanly unmounting your disk(s) when you shut down
[07:27] <wouter> anyone has an idea?
[07:28] <mynameistux> its my home partition
[07:28] <ray_> flannel how i do this im new to ubuntu 8.10
[07:28] <Flannel> ray_: Open up your home folder in the file browser (the program is called nautilus), then hit ctrl-H to see hidden files, then you'll see .wine, delete that
[07:28] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: how many partitions do you have? (and do you have any backups?)
[07:28] <ray_> flannel how i run this
[07:28] <Oprtz> i am  using Wicd Manager instead of Network Manager, my wirless adaptor light was ON a couple of days before, But now it doesn't work, i am trying to turn it ON manually but failed, why is taht? thanks
[07:28] <Flannel> ray_: How do you run what?
[07:29] <djhash> milligan_: try checking logs..
[07:29] <ray_> natutilus
[07:29] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-316345.html
[07:29] <Flannel> ray_: Ah, go to Places > Home folder
[07:29] <mynameistux> partition 1, ubuntu around 10gig, partition 2 home, about 100gb, partition 3 ntfs, am going to install XP
[07:29] <frybye> hubar: inside O.o. open the help and look under "Languages" or if you are in the spanish O.o. whatever that is in Sp.
[07:29] <ray_> flannel im there now what i do
[07:29] <woody86> is there a #channel for programmers?
[07:29] <Flannel> ray_: Follow what I just said to do
[07:29] <ray_> what next step
[07:29] <mynameistux> going to reboot router because of muck ups
[07:29] <milligan_> djhash, which log?
[07:29] <Flannel> woody86: Language specific channels are, yeah.  Generally #language
[07:30] <ray_> im a disability person and need to do it insteps
[07:30] <ray_> i did one so next step is
[07:30] <djhash> milligan_: probably the apache logs..
[07:30] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to intrepid, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:30] <nmh-j2graw> woody86: http://searchirc.com/dir/Computers/Programming-and-Development
[07:30] <gnuskool> woody86: there is a channel for java programmers
[07:30] <Flannel> ray_: You're in your home folder, push ctrl-h to see the hidden files, delete .wine
[07:30] <ray_> ok
[07:30] <ray_> i del it
[07:30] <gnuskool> woody86: but you can type /join and have a look
[07:30] <nmh-j2graw> mynameistux: also, be ready to reinstall grub
[07:30] <frybye> ray_: end of problem!!! ;=)
[07:30] <ray_> flannel how i del it from my applictions also
[07:30] <woody86> thanks guys :D
[07:30] <milligan_> djhash, they don't have anything about any python scripts. I did an strace on the pid though, and it looks like it's a gettimeofday() loop that returns a value now and then.
[07:31] <ray_> i see folder there how i remove it from there as well
[07:31] <Flannel> ray_: Right click the applications button, and then choose edit menu, or menu editor, or whatever.
[07:31] <ray_> o ok
[07:32] <ray_> thanks
[07:32] <ray_> flannel
[07:32] <djhash> milligan_: then you need to find out what script has gettimeofday().. i'm not familiar with python.. but if there aren't many files.. you can check them by hand
[07:33] <ray_> flannel i ran this sudo apt-get autoremove wine is that ok to do
[07:33] <ray_> is that to remove wine right flannel
[07:33] <Flannel> ray_: sudo apt-get purge wine, not autoremove wine
[07:33] <ray_> flannel i ran the auto remove one
[07:33] <ray_> i didnt know
[07:33] <djhash> milligan_: my best suggestion is to look at the python script that is loaded when http://localhost is accessed.. i don't know if it would something like index.py or something else.
[07:34] <Flannel> ray_: If it didn't error, then you're fine.
[07:34] <yowshi> havig a problem with fusion-icon package synaptic keeps tripping over it
[07:34] <yowshi> anyone solved this problem yet?
[07:34] <ray_> flannel it didnt
[07:35] <frybye> nmh-j2graw - all this stuff in the the O.O. hep system under languages if i am not mistaken...
[07:36] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to intrepid, everything ok, only "places menu" (bookmarks) doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:36] <khussein78> hi all
[07:36] <sudoroot> khussein78: hello... a/s/l???
[07:37] <HeMan> Hi! How is Xen supposed to work in intrepid? I find no Xen kernel
[07:37] <frybye> sudoroot: that is for #ubuntu-offtopic !!!
[07:37] <scientes> why does compiz have to do wierd things to my skydome image instead of just showing it how it is
[07:37] <scientes> ?
[07:37] <sudoroot> oops! sorry my bad
[07:38] <khussein78> i have a problem on new release of ubuntu with evolution, when i go to calender it crash
[07:38] <frybye> considering that if I put half a toe wrong i get jumped on heheh
[07:38] <khussein78> i see in the logs segmentation fault ?
[07:38] <khussein78> did any one face the same problem ?
[07:39] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10 amd64: Trying to install the latest mplayer, but it asks for liblame0, I try to install liblame0 from launchpad, but get an error
[07:40] <netstar> co_biasa
[07:40] <woody86> what's the difference between a compiler and an interpreter, and when would you prefer one over the other?
[07:41] <reduz> maybe it's the fault of the verbatim disks
[07:41] <reduz> i should tyr another brand
[07:42] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to 8.10, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[07:42] <Rolypoly> i dont think anyone knows wouter :(
[07:43] <wouter> Rolypoly: to bad, everthing else is ok
[07:43] <Flannel> woody86: That's entirely offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic, or a number of other channels.
[07:44] <Rolypoly> wouter: did it do that from the start? it sounds to me like somethings corrupted (not that i'd know)
[07:44] <woody86> Flannel: sorry about that, I typed in the wrong tab :(
[07:44] <Flannel> woody86: No worries
[07:45] <wouter> Rolypoly: yea, from start, after updating
[07:45] <razel> what is the command for sharing users folder at home folder? i can share it there is a message saying im not the owner.. how can i solve it?
[07:45] <razel> i cant share it
[07:46] <wouter> Rolypoly: all items in places menu result in that, only 'connect to server' and such are ok, they aren't bookmarks
[07:46] <sudoroot> razel: have u tried the old right click trick?
[07:46] <Rolypoly> sry, i don't know hey :(
[07:47] <razel> sudoroot: yes i did
[07:47] <razel> but there is a message im not the owner
[07:47] <grub_booter> anyone know of any work around for the lack of session saving in intrepid?
[07:48] <metrick> can anyone tell me how to add brushes to gimp?
[07:48] <overrider> hello, i have a computer that is connected to a adsl modem. what is the easiest way to setup a pppoe connection? is there a wizard or something? thanks
[07:48] <metrick> 8.10 =]
[07:48] <sudoroot> razel: sorry can't help u more
[07:49] <razel> sudoroot: i am the administrator but why is it?
[07:49] <Ward1983> nice i might have foudn a wrt54g for 30euro, now lets hope its a 4.0 or older :D
[07:49] <sudoroot> razel: i think u need to be a superuser to do stuff like that.. usually thru the cli...
[07:50] <st3vie> razel, in a terminal you can use chown (change owner) of files/folders. If needed with sudo
[07:50] <razel> ill try
[07:50] <Lukian> I have a copy of 8.10 on cd and an older ubuntu install, what's the cleanest way to reinstall/update it using the least bandwidth I can (and being able to boot off that partition)
[07:51] <ay^> put the cd in and it should display option of upgrade
[07:51] <ay^> unless you have some other old version than 8.04
[07:51] <b33r> hey can someone give me direct link for 8.10 md5?
[07:51] <kke> hmm why can't i add icons for gnome-terminal -profiles?
[07:51] <Flannel> b33r: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[07:51] <grub_booter> does anyone know if automatic session saving works in kubuntu?
[07:52] <b33r> Lukian, if you have cd you can't update you need to reinstall
[07:52] <kke> the icon selection was available in 8.04 but not anymore after upgrading
[07:52] <b33r> Lukian, if you have alternate cd you can update from cd
[07:52] <b33r> Flannel, thank you
[07:52] <ay^> b33r: oh that option is only on the alternate cd? thats a tad uncool
[07:53] <Lukian> b33r, reinstall will be fine, I'd prefer to delete everything (bar the files needed to boot) off that partition, can I remove everything except the /boot directory safely?
[07:53] <b33r> Lukian, yeah just format the partition and backup your home directory if you want
[07:54] <ay^> Lukian: you /boot isn't on it's own partition? then a format of the drive will erase that too, tho a clean install will create a new /boot
[07:54] <Lukian> ay^, it's not, instead of formatting, can I just delete everything bar that directory?
[07:55] <ay^> why do you need it?
[07:55] <Lukian> I'm aware the install will make a new one, but I've had issues with some installs in the past ;)
[07:55] <b33r> Lukian, what issues?
[07:55] <ay^> Lukian: my tip is to create a new small partition of say 200mb
[07:55] <Lukian> ay^, can't do that atm, but I'll keep it in mind for when I can
[07:55] <ay^> Lukian: put your old /boot in there and then format everything else
[07:56] <ay^> Lukian: hu? why not? Just delete 200mb of something somewhere and shrink and create
[07:56] <ay^> Lukian: gParted is in the livecd
[07:57] <Lukian> hmm can an extended partition be flagged as bootable?
[07:57] <dataflow> is there another gui tool i can use for my wifi instead of Network Manager
[07:57] <ay^> Lukian: yes
[07:57] <ay^> dataflow: yes wicd is one
[07:57] <dataflow> my wifi card is tripping out
[07:57] <Lukian> ay^, alright I'll unmount it and see what I can do when I've sorted my homedir out :)
[07:58] <ay^> Lukian: do that :) I'm off eating breakfast
[08:02] <Rolypoly> has anyone setup a bluetooth phone to get internet with 8.10?
[08:03] <kke> Rolypoly: i did on 8.04 and it still works on 8.10
[08:03] <Rolypoly> ok, the guides ive followed for 8.04 all tell me to get bluez, and it wont let me install that on 8.10
[08:03] <Rolypoly> i think theres a new bluetooth library and bluez still wants the old one
[08:04] <jim_p> Rolypoly: does the bluetooth service woek now?
[08:04] <Rolypoly> bluetooth works. im using my mouse with it atm :)
[08:05] <Rolypoly> and i found my mobile internet provider in the network manager list
[08:05] <xsacha> hi. when i start ubuntu 8.10 for the first time(after install or live cd), i hear the starting music and then get corrupt white and grey graphics. i attempt to go to the terminal to fix xorg and it says: loading please wait
[08:05] <Rolypoly> i dont know how to make those two things work though
[08:05] <ray_> hi i have sound on auto and all i hear is staic what i do on a dell e1505
[08:05] <xsacha> using intel i965 videocard
[08:05] <ray_> and all i hear when run test is stadic what i do thanks
[08:05] <ray_> on ubuntu 8.10
[08:05] <wouter> Can anyone help me? I updated to 8.10, everything ok, only places menu doesn't work anymore -> "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[08:05] <ray_> any one
[08:06] <ziroday> xsacha: okay, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[08:06] <ray_> any one see myu q :(
[08:06] <ziroday> wouter: one sec
[08:06] <ray_> ziroday see my q
[08:06] <ray_> i posted
[08:06] <nullbnx> ray, if you can just do a clean install
[08:06] <ziroday> ray_: I have, I don't know the answer
[08:06] <nullbnx> i had alot of glitches like that and had to do a clean install
[08:06] <wouter> ziroday, ok
[08:06] <ray_> nullbnx i has the update
[08:06] <ziroday> !sound | ray this is all I can give you
[08:07] <ray_> and after this is what i got
[08:07] <ray_> should i use the oss
[08:07] <ray_> nullbnx
[08:07] <xsacha> ziroday: how? i cant even get to a console
[08:07] <ray_> nullbnx when i tryed then i heard sound
[08:07] <ray_> should i use oss
[08:07] <ray_> ones
[08:08] <ziroday> xsacha: if you hit ctrl + alt + f1 you should be able to
[08:08] <ray_> in sound prefernce
[08:08] <nullbnx> ray_: your sound worked before the update?
[08:08] <ray_> yes
[08:08] <ziroday> !enter | ray_
[08:08] <xsacha> ziroday: i hit this key combination and it says: Loading please wait
[08:08] <xsacha> ziroday: on a black screen with white writing
[08:08] <ray_> nullbnx but when i tryed oss sound it comes out with sound
[08:08] <ziroday> xsacha: no login prompt?
[08:08] <nullbnx> ray_: sounds like you need a clean install...
[08:08] <nullbnx> ray_: then use oss
[08:08] <ziroday> wouter: see point 12 in http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/10/intrepid-update-faq.html
[08:08] <xsacha> no
[08:08] <ray_> just not with asla
[08:08] <ziroday> xsacha: try ctrl + alt + f2
[08:09] <kelvin911> why ubuntu starts to use swap????
[08:09] <xsacha> ok, think it will be different?
[08:09] <bob_> My PC is acting like "Hover Click" or "Dwell Click" is turned on. It isn't. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:09] <nullbnx> ray_: either play with settings until things work or clean install... im sure a clean install will fix your problem
[08:09] <xsacha> ill try that then
[08:09] <kelvin911> i have 3GB of ram and the system is using about 1GB and then start swap?
[08:09] <ziroday> xsacha: hopefully
[08:09] <kelvin911> if i disable swap would ubuntu be faster?
[08:09] <ray_> nullbnx if it working with oss works and hear sound dose it mean alas dont like my card
[08:09] <ray_> alsa
[08:10] <ziroday> kelvin911: probably not, ubuntu maybe caching it
[08:10] <ray_> should i stay with oss nullbnx
[08:10] <ray_> if it works
[08:10] <kelvin911> kelvin@kelvin-desktop:~$ free
[08:10] <kelvin911>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:10] <kelvin911> Mem:       3116048    2934960     181088          0     681584    1271436
[08:10] <kelvin911> -/+ buffers/cache:     981940    2134108
[08:10] <kelvin911> Swap:      4096532      39832    4056700
[08:10] <FloodBot1> kelvin911: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <ray_> it only wors on oss Nul
[08:10] <bakarat> i'm getting invalid signatures when checking for updates with update manager
[08:10] <ray_> is this comen
[08:11] <ray_> just woundering my self nullbnx
[08:11] <kelvin911> http://pastebin.com/m92e75ab
[08:11] <ziroday> kelvin911: please don't flood, from what I can tell you are using very, very little swap at all. Disabling it will not make your system faster
[08:11] <kelvin911> it starts to use swap not just caching
[08:11] <kelvin911> but if i have 2GB of ram unuse why using swap?
[08:11] <wouter> ziroday, doesn't do the trick
[08:12] <ziroday> kelvin911: your system using swap is not a cause for concern
[08:12] <b33r> ziroday, swap is slower than ram..
[08:12] <ray_> is it command for alsa not to work and need to use oss
[08:12] <ray_> ?
[08:12] <ziroday> wouter: one sec
[08:12] <kelvin911> is there a way to force the os use all the ram unless it is very necessary to swap?
[08:12] <ray_> my card befor updated the system to 2.6 or somthing like that from a update
[08:12] <setuid_w00t> Is there anywhere that I can find updated ubuntu packages?  Specifically, I am trying to determine whether rsync 3.0.4 is packaged.
[08:12] <bakarat> anyone know why i would be getting invalid signatures from the official hardy repos?
[08:12] <ray_> and now need to use oss sound is this command
[08:13] <ziroday> b33r: of course, however if a program is put in swap when the ram is not full will not make it slower
[08:13] <b33r> kelvin911, I say yes disable your swap with 3GB you wont need it
[08:13] <ziroday> setuid_w00t: gimme a sec
[08:13] <ray_> just woundering
[08:13] <kelvin911> can i disable swap without restart?
[08:13] <ziroday> wouter: so you did what point 12. said and it didn't work
[08:13] <ay^> kelvin911: yes
[08:13] <kelvin911> how?
[08:13] <Seaboy> hey guys
[08:13] <ay^> swapoff
[08:13] <dataflow> if i can see my wifi in iwconfig does it mean it's working. Because i can see it and it aint working.
[08:14] <ray_> any see my q? :(
[08:14] <ay^> !info swapoff | kelvin911
[08:14] <kelvin911> but something is in the swap now
[08:14] <ay^> bah
[08:14] <ray_> is it command for alsa not to work and need to use oss
[08:14] <ziroday> !info rsync > setuid_w00t
[08:14] <kelvin911> can i just swapoff?
[08:14] <rubial> maa chudao
[08:14] <ay^> kelvin911: I do it a lot, but if you worried reboot
[08:14] <ray_> any see my last q
[08:15] <ray_> or did i get booted
[08:15] <kelvin911> so i can swap on and off on the fly?
[08:15] <dataflow> the network manager says my signal strength but it is unable to authenticate past the gateway
[08:15] <ariqs> how do I capture streaming video?
[08:15] <ay^> ray_: I can see it
[08:15] <Seaboy> when I was in my kubuntu desktop. suddenly everything changed to white, and after rebooting splash screen is ok, but after logging in, again just awhite screen, what's the problem?
[08:15] <wouter> ziroday, yea, did that, opened nautilus with a terminal, right click on any folder and selected open with, the i choose 'Open folder' (wich stands for the nautilus command)
[08:15] <b33r> kelvin911, I think you ave to disable it from fstab but not sure
[08:15] <ray_> ay is it command for alsa not to work and need to use oss
[08:15] <ray_> i have ubuntu 8.10
[08:15] <dataflow> gtk-RecordMyDesktop
[08:16] <dataflow> ariqs, in your temp dir will be all your flash
[08:16] <setuid_w00t> ziroday: That just tells me that the current version is 3.03.  I'm wondering if there are newer packages available outside of the regular intrepid sources.
[08:16] <bob_> My PC is acting like "Hover Click" or "Dwell Click" is turned on. It isn't. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:16] <ay^> ray_: I have no idea
[08:16] <ray_> any one know
[08:16] <ray_> ay do some people need to use oss to get sound working
[08:16] <ray_> i never had to use them
[08:16] <ay^> bob_: I know neither of those two
[08:16] <ray_> thats why im asing
[08:16] <ray_> asking
[08:16] <sysdoc> Upgraded to 8.10 today, dual monitor as separate x screen, and my bottom panel (task bar) is missing. If I start  AWN it doesn't appear either. The resolution is correct for the monitor yet the background image does not appear to reach the bottom. anyone have a clue?
[08:17] <ay^> ray_: probably some do, or they wouldn't be there I suppose
[08:17] <dataflow> ariqs, say you wanted to keep a video your watching on youtube. just 'mv /tmp/*.fsh /home'
[08:17] <ray_> ay o ok thanks
[08:17] <ay^> ray_: np :)
[08:17] <Lukian> sysdoc, CRT or LCD?
[08:17] <sysdoc> LCD
[08:17] <sysdoc> NVIDIA
[08:17] <Lukian> odd :o
[08:18] <wamng> 不会用xchat阿
[08:18] <dataflow> does anyone know anything about getting wifi working?
[08:18] <sysdoc> Nvidia settings lists the 2 nd LCD as CRT tho
[08:18] <ay^> dataflow: well not much
[08:18] <wamng> 这里好像都是说英语的，我想到中文的
[08:18] <ay^> dataflow: did you try wicd?
[08:19] <kelvin911> you cant chat chinese here
[08:19] <ziroday> wouter: correct, try login and out again
[08:19] <dataflow> not yet. it wasnt in apt-get so...
[08:19] <dataflow> ill find it
[08:19] <ay^> dataflow: I know some poeple had o success with NM, but great success with wicd in hardy, intrepid is all new to me so I don't know about that but you could try
[08:19] <ay^> dataflow: no you have to add its repository
[08:19] <ziroday> setuid_w00t: err there could be one of the in a PPA somewhere or possibly on getdeb.net, your best bet is to google around
[08:19] <ziroday> !cn | wamng
[08:19] <wouter> ziroday, it works, thx man, wish i could help you in any way
[08:19] <setuid_w00t> ziroday: What is PPA?
[08:20] <ziroday> wouter: no problem :)
[08:20] <ziroday> !ppa > setuid_w00t
[08:20] <c0mp13371331337> Anyone know of a way to stop certain gnome-panel applets from changing color when I mouse-over them?  I'd like them to remain transparent rather than changing to my theme's color.
[08:20] <wouter> see you guys
[08:20] <ziroday> setuid_w00t: basically a private ubuntu repo for any launchpad member
[08:20] <kwak> hi, i'm trying to upgrades my hardy server to 8.10, i run update-manager -d then click upgrade but i always get W: failed to fetch ..... some index files failed to download
[08:20] <vasilisa> what on earth does this error mean? " "Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'trash'."
[08:20] <kwak> i tried different mirrors but same problem
[08:20] <bob_> My PC is acting like "Hover Click" or "Dwell Click" is turned on. It isn't. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:20] <ziroday> kwak: try with update-manager -c instead of -d
[08:21] <Guest75833> Hi
[08:21] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Try Preferences > Windows > Window Selection
[08:22] <vasilisa> this is so aggravating. gwenview's my favorite way to organize pictures, and it cant even delete to trash
[08:22] <kwak> -c doesn't show the available 8.10 upgrade
[08:22] <bob_> c0mp13371331337:Not checked!?!
[08:22] <ziroday> kwak: did you enable the "upgrade to new releases" in software sources?
[08:22] <jim_p> did a kernel update happen today? v8.10
[08:23] <ziroday> vasilisa: you can complain to the gwenview authors
[08:23] <ay^> jim_p: yea
[08:23] <vasilisa> ziroday: I would, except that the same bug happens in some other apps.
[08:23] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Are you running compiz?  I THINK I remember seeing an option somewhere in CCSM for raise-window-on-mouseover.
[08:23] <jim_p> ay^: thanks
[08:23] <dataflow> is there supposed to be an indication of my wifi in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:23] <ziroday> vasilisa: then file a bug :), note that gwenview is a kde app and issues may be centering from that. Try it under kde
[08:24] <ziroday> dataflow: nope
[08:24] <dataflow> ok
[08:24] <vasilisa> ziroday: I am ... but no one has answers in the kde/kubuntu community....
[08:24] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: That, or your demon-posessed mouse is constantly clicking by itself. ;-)
[08:24] <fenerli7> I have an active SMB share but cannot remove it... webmin and samba show only one shared resource (the printer)
[08:24] <bob_> I am running 8.04, I think Compiz is native but I'm not sure. Kinda a noob. Problem really is when typing. My cursor will moove to the mouse pointer wiith out notice
[08:25] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Laptop?
[08:25] <ay^> bob_: are you on a laptop?
[08:25] <bob_> c0mp13371331337: Yes Dell Inspiron 600m
[08:25] <ay^> bob_: if so try to disable the touchpad. I had my touchpad clicking all over the place at random intervals
[08:25] <ay^> bob_: mine is dell 1525 ;P I see a pattern
[08:25] <Lance_> hi
[08:25] <fenerli7> or only disable while typing, the touchpad can be useful
[08:26] <kwak> ziroday, any other suggestions
[08:26] <ay^> fenerli7: if it does what mine did, which is right clicking, it sucks everywhere ;P
[08:27] <ziroday> vasilisa: did you try it under kde?
[08:27] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: Ah yes.  I work for Dell tech support.  That's a very common call, actually.  The touchpad has an option where you can tap it to click somewhere.  Your wrists are hitting the touchpad, causing a click at wherver the cursor is.  I don't know how to change the tap-to-click sensitivity in Ubuntu, unfortunately.  We deal mostly with Windows where I work. :-P
[08:27] <fenerli7> ay^: lol... that's messed up
[08:27] <ay^> ziroday: he is on kubuntu afaik
[08:27] <vasilisa> ziroday: yeah i did :(
[08:27] <ziroday> kwak: sorry is the option that enables you to go to new releases enabled in System sources?
[08:27] <bob_> ay^: I could try that when I get home. I don't have a spare mouse here. Did you ever find answe?
[08:27] <fenerli7> c0mp13371331337: gsynaptics
[08:27] <ay^> fenerli7: oh yeah it was randomly making me crazy
[08:27] <ziroday> vasilisa: ah, well then you need to file a bug or ask for help in #kubuntu
[08:28] <fenerli7> ay^: i can imagine
[08:28] <bob_> c0mp13371331337:I don't think I'm doing that but I will pay more attention. Thats for the idea!
[08:28] <ay^> bob_: nopes.. I always carry a mouse with me
[08:28] <bob_> ay^: that sounds like a pain
[08:28] <fenerli7> bob_: get gsynaptics to configure to touchpad
[08:28] <ay^> bob_: indeed..
[08:28] <c0mp13371331337> bob_: fenerli7: There you have it, gsynaptics.
[08:28] <vasilisa> ziroday: u.u k...
[08:29] <bob_> Thanks All!!!! I'll give it a try.
[08:29] <ziroday> vasilisa: sorry I don't follow?
[08:29] <vasilisa> ziroday: oh, that was a sad face sorry :) i said 'kay'
[08:29] <ay^> ziroday: u.u = sad dude
[08:29] <ziroday> vasilisa: ay^: okay
[08:30] <ziroday> vasilisa: best place to ask is #kubuntu
[08:30] <bloemkool> hello
[08:30] <vasilisa> ziroday: im there... and in #kde. just asking everywhere hoping someone can translate the error message
[08:30] <bloemkool> the release notes of Gnome 2.24 mention a new timetracker applet, but I can't seem to find it in ubuntu 8.10
[08:30] <bloemkool> do I need to install a separate package for it ?
[08:31] <yt766i> anyone know a good suite for digital camera stills and video for burning CD's/DVD's.  tovid is broken right now in Ubuntu 8.10
[08:31] <ziroday> bloemkool: yep, its called hamster-applet
[08:31] <bloemkool> k tnx
[08:31] <ziroday> yt766i: brasero?
[08:32] <yt766i> I use brasero, but I need something that'll convert the .mov to an older format, because my DVD player is old.  Preferably mpeg-2
[08:32] <yt766i> I know KDE has some tools, but I want a Gnome app.
[08:33] <Dominik> how can I check the size of my swap partition? and why does ubuntu say I am out of space when I try to hibernate?
[08:33] <ay^> hmms.. I just installed gsynaptics, but it wants me to set SHMConfig to True in xorg.conf, but in xorg.conf it just says that HAL is used, how do I enable this now?
[08:35] <yt766i> dominik; parted will tell you this.  I'd install gparted via sudo apt-get install gparted because it's graphical.  It'll show you the size, and let you adjust.
[08:35] <bloemkool> ziroday: anything special I need to do after installing the hamster-applet package through synaptic ?
[08:35] <atc-> Morning all. I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 by using the Update Manager, but it's not showing the distribution upgrade button. I've ensured 'Normal' is set in the update tab of the settings for software sources, and upgraded everything, but I'm still not seeing the button. Any ideas?
[08:35] <bloemkool> because it still doesn't show up in the list of applets when I click 'Add to panel...' on the panel
[08:36] <atc-> I've read the ubuntu wiki for upgrade and followed the steps, as well as ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrade
[08:37] <b33r> atc-, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <yt766i> bloemkool, I've run into that.  If it's listed in the menu, right-click and you should be able to add to panel.
[08:38] <atc-> b33r, I don't want to dist-upgrade becaues that causes issues and the update manager will deal with them for me. I want to do it as recommended so I have a working PC at the end of it. It's a work machine afterall
[08:38] <b33r> atc-, tried update-manager -d ?
[08:39] <atc-> b33r, not yet
[08:39] <milligan_> How much is changing to the intrepid repos and doing a dist upgrade going to mess up for me, when going from 8.04 ?
[08:39] <bloemkool> yt766i: sorry, what do you mean exactly by right-clicking ? where should I right click ?
[08:39] <b33r> atc-, well try =d
[08:40] <bloemkool> oh never mind, now it does show up in the list of applets
[08:40] <bloemkool> guess I needed to wait a little bit
[08:40] <yt766i> Mouse-over the menu entry if it's there, like you were going to run the prog.  Then right-click.  I had to do that with Thunderbird, as it wasn't in the Add to Panel opt.
[08:40] <Petester> hi... i find that firefox is sometimes laggy if there are a large amount of javascript on the webapge... any ideas how to fix it?
[08:40] <bloemkool> thanks for the help everyone
[08:41] <Pontifex> sup yall
[08:41] <Seaboy> ﻿how can I use envy to install my driver in console mode?\
[08:41] <jim_p> Seaboy: what driver exaclty?
[08:42] <lvm_problem> hello
[08:42] <lvm_problem> is there anyone who knows how to rescue a lvm volume group?
[08:43] <Administrator> ,,
[08:43] <atc-> b33r, you beauty :)
[08:43] <b33r> atc-, worked? =)
[08:43] <benovic> sudo apt-get obama
[08:43] <benovic> ah works!
[08:44] <atc-> b33r, seeing the button and upgrading now. thank you
[08:44] <b33r> atc-, cool
[08:44] <Seaboy> ﻿jim_p: geraphic driver for my nvidia geforce fx5500
[08:44] <atc-> b33r, <3
[08:44] <jim_p> can i make wget always download on the desktop?
[08:44] <jim_p> Seaboy: just install the nvidia-glx-legacy package from the repos
[08:45] <kelvin911> do i follow this page instruction to lower the swappiness ?? http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28224/How_to_tune_your_Ubuntu_PC_for_faster_performance_
[08:45] <jim_p> Seaboy: and dont mess with envy scripts and automations
[08:46] <Seaboy> ﻿Seaboy: I have problem with my desktop showing just a white screen, may it help? I,ve already installed 173 driver, and after some hours working with that, this happened
[08:47] <jim_p> kelvin911: swapiness is not that much of a gain. instead, try to remove junk you dont need like lvm
[08:47] <jim_p> Seaboy: do you use compiz?
[08:48] <Venin> is there no built in function in ubuntu that can disable touchpad while typing?
[08:49] <Seaboy> ﻿ jim_p: no, and I use kde
[08:50] <jim_p> Seaboy: kde4? kde4 had some bug with some nvidia driver
[08:50] <kelvin911> whats lvm?
[08:51] <Dominik> yt766i: gparted does not let me move or resize my partitions :(
[08:51] <jim_p> kelvin911: some app needed for raid arraid and the like. Logical Volume Manager
[08:51] <kelvin911> ?
[08:51] <Seaboy> ﻿jim_p: yes, I just want my desktop back, even with no nvidia driver, what should I do?
[08:51] <kelvin911> i just did swapoff -a
[08:51] <kelvin911> i think that will stop using swap
[08:52] <jim_p> Seaboy: let me think
[08:52] <Dominik> yt766i: is it possible that it does not let me resize/move them because more then half the disk is ntsf?
[08:52] <kelvin911> how to stop the os using swap in next reboot?
[08:52] <Petester> hey... does anybody else experience lag in firefox?
[08:52] <Dominik> me me me
[08:52] <abe3k> Hi, how do I check which kernel version I'm running from the terminal ?
[08:52] <ziroday> Seaboy: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and give us your graphics card
[08:52] <Dominik> Petester: I am disapointed by ff3
[08:53] <ziroday> abe3k: uname -a
[08:53] <jim_p> Seaboy: 8.10?
[08:53] <kelvin911> experience lag in firefox when closing it
[08:53] <abe3k> ziroday : thanks dude
[08:53] <Petester> Dominik: SO yu mean FF3 is the problem, not ubuntu?
[08:53] <Dominik> Petester: ya
[08:53] <mrpinky> hello :) has anybody here play "unreal tournament" (original version from 2000) on ubuntu? works, but very slow on compiz. i read the solution was "sudo X :1 -ac & DISPLAY=:1 ./ut" to start without xgl, with this i hear sound but black screen :(. "xgame" script gives me the same result :(
[08:53] <Petester> sigh, but im a hardcore fan of ff3... dont want to use opera.... lol
[08:53] <kelvin911> opera is way better
[08:53] <Dominik> petester: use ff2
[08:54] <ziroday> mrpinky: why don't you disable compiz whilst playing the game?
[08:54] <Seaboy> ﻿jim_p: yes
[08:54] <carpeliam> is it possible to set the refresh rate in the splash screen?
[08:54] <mrpinky> how to disable compiz? :)
[08:54] <Petester> oh ff2 is better?
[08:54] <Petester> alright i should try it
[08:54] <ziroday> !browsers | Petester
[08:54] <Dominik> petester: ya, the move to ff3 demands more ram and faster cpu
[08:54] <Petester> @kelvin911: except there are no addons on opera
[08:54] <ziroday> mrpinky: open a terminal and type in metacity --replaec
[08:54] <kelvin911> what addon?
[08:54] <Petester> addons that firefox support
[08:54] <kelvin911> opera already have all the features
[08:55] <carpeliam> eh, i thought ff3 was supposed to be much better with RAM
[08:55] <Petester> it does?
[08:55] <ziroday> mrpinky: or go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Effects > No Effects
[08:55] <mrpinky> ok i go and try that now, if everything goes quiet then "connection reset by peer", you know i had to ctrl+alt+bksp :)
[08:55] <Petester> @carpeliam: it is in windows
[08:55] <Petester> not ubuntu somehow
[08:55] <kelvin911> all those crap-on for ff, opera already have them
[08:55] <Dominik> carpeliam: yea so they say, but my ff2 is fast, ff3 is not, soo?
[08:55] <jim_p> Seaboy: there is thread here at a gtreek forum. the ir conclusion is to use the opensource nv driver and wait for nvidia for a fix
[08:56] <Dominik> kelvin911: that is not true, and they are not crapons
[08:56] <Petester> agreed with dominik
[08:56] <burkesbythebay> can someone help me with mounting ext partitions to the desktop.  I installed with a seperate home partition and 2 other storage partitions i would like these to display on my desktop.  my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/67810/
[08:56] <mrpinky> ziroday: wow, not only does that work for ut, but all the lag on my normal desktop applications is gone!
[08:56] <mrpinky> thanks :)
[08:56] <Seaboy> ﻿jim_p: so what exactly should I do? I mean in console mode
[08:57] <ziroday> mrpinky: great :), your computer must not have been able to take compiz
[08:57] <Dominik> compiz?
[08:57] <ziroday> !compiz | Dominik
[08:57] <mrpinky> i guess so :) ok game time, seeya later
[08:57] <ziroday> Dominik: the shiny effects you may be seeing on your desktop
[08:58] <jim_p> Seaboy: how does the new xorg in 8.10 configure itself? i am sure there is a tool somewhere. open it and select "nv" as the driver to use. you will lose any 3d acceleration though
[08:58] <Petester> compiz is the de best thing on ubuntu
[08:58] <jim_p> Petester: wrong!
[08:58] <carpeliam> if only video card drivers were decent enough to support it, it might be alright.
[08:58] <Petester> jim_p:
[08:58] <Petester> ?
[08:58] <gordonjcp> ah, that's better
[08:58] <gordonjcp> is there a way to get the CD burning software to be slightly more descriptive when it has a problem?
[08:58] <ziroday> Seaboy: jim_p: you can change the Driver "nvidia" line to Driver "nv" line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:59] <ziroday> gordonjcp: use a different cd burner?
[08:59] <ziroday> gordonjcp: software that is :)
[08:59] <Dominik> ok, I have very bad pc, so I want no effects, I suppose I don't want compiz then, but the problem is if you turn of the effects under preferences then you can no longer switch workspaces by scrolling your mouse wheel :(, which is the strongest feature of linux
[08:59] <gordonjcp> ziroday: what do you suggest?
[08:59] <carpeliam> ziroday, do you know if the xorg.conf settings apply to the splash screen at all? i know i can set my resolution in usplash.conf, but i'm having refresh rate problems
[09:00] <jim_p> Petester: are you on nvidia or something? ask an ati guy how he feels! the best thing in ubuntu 8.10 is the new kernel with the huge support for wireless and the like
[09:00] <Seaboy> ﻿Seaboy: i don't have access to any tool, I just can use console
[09:00] <ziroday> gordonjcp: err try k3b?
[09:00] <gordonjcp> ziroday: the "desktop" one just keeps asking me to put a disk in, and wodim just keeps asking me to put a disk in
[09:00] <gordonjcp> ziroday: what does k3b use for the cd burner backend?
[09:00] <jim_p> Seaboy: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[09:00] <Seaboy> ﻿ziroday: you mean just replacing the word nvidia with nv?
[09:00] <ziroday> gordonjcp: not sure, also see brasero
[09:00] <gordonjcp> ziroday: I suspect changing the front end won't help
[09:00] <Petester> yeah, im on nvidia
[09:00] <Petester> how does ati has to do with wireless?
[09:00] <ziroday> Seaboy: correct
[09:01] <jim_p> gordonjcp: cdrwtools i think is the backend
[09:01] <gordonjcp> ziroday: isn't brasero just another frontend?
[09:01] <gordonjcp> jim_p: ok
[09:01] <Seaboy> ﻿ziroday: Thanks, I'm gonna try it
[09:01] <ziroday> Seaboy: good luck :)
[09:01] <Petester> wow opera has no lag!
[09:02] <gordonjcp> hrm
[09:02] <gordonjcp> is it possible for an IDE CD writer to just plain not work with Linux?
[09:02] <ziroday> gordonjcp: reasonably impossible
[09:02] <jim_p> Petester: ati's fglrx are incompatible with corg v1.5 that 8.10 has. it just does not work!
[09:02] <jim_p> *xorg
[09:03] <ziroday> jim_p: I think you will find that only applies for _some_ dirvers
[09:03] <ziroday> *drivers
[09:03] <Petester> jim_p: Aw, that just sucks =(
[09:03] <jim_p> ziroday: that ati effect?
[09:03] <Petester> (i didn't mean any sarcasm)
[09:04] <ziroday> jim_p: only some cards don't work with the new xorg (the reasonably old ones) the others work just fine under the fglrx driver
[09:04] <Mahalo> That's what Pontios Pilat said
[09:04] <ziroday> Mahalo: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:04] <Mahalo> Yup.
[09:04] <Mahalo> MSI in wine
[09:04] <jim_p> ziroday: thing is that fglrx does not work with xorg 1.5! sure, radeon and radeonhd drivers do work, but they do the ~20% of what fglrx can do in 3d
[09:05] <Mahalo> rather .msi in wine
[09:05] <ziroday> Mahalo: err you find it best to ask in #winehq, what program?
[09:05] <Mahalo> sitespinner
[09:05] <gordonjcp> ok, the problem is this: my CD drive will load and mount a CD just fine, and that works, but it cannot write to a CD - it just returns "no disk/wrong disk"
[09:05] <Mahalo> actually bought and paid fer
[09:05] <gordonjcp> is it possible that a given CD writer just doesn't work with Linux?
[09:05] <ziroday> jim_p: err I think you will find that the fglrx drivers run under xorg 1.5
[09:05] <Freku> maybe the disk is really wrong
[09:05] <kelvin911> so how to disable swap in fstab?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Freku: tried several disks
[09:06] <kelvin911> do i just comment out that line?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> also, the CD writer works perfectly in NetBSD
[09:06] <Mahalo> I didn't try #winehq I tried their forums
[09:06] <gordonjcp> but dual-booting just so I can write CDs is a pain in the hindmost
[09:06] <Petester> so other than switching to opera or ff2, there is no way i can get rid of the lag?
[09:07] <ziroday> Petester: you can try a wide variety of other browsers out there if you are not happy with firefox
[09:07] <Mahalo> But I think I'd like to observe if it OK, I like to absorbe other issues to know how to take care of my own later.
[09:07] <Petester> i would have thought i can fix the lag with some tweaks in firefox
[09:07] <Mahalo> My issue is reallly slack
[09:07] <Petester> i didn't really want to use other browsers =(
[09:08] <deftone> Has anyone ever made a GRUB menu background before??
[09:09] <jxander> is getdeb.net going to provide packages for ubuntu 8.04.1 in the future now that Intrepid is out?
[09:09] <ziroday> jxander: we don't support getdeb here so we don't know. Ask them in #getdev
[09:09] <ziroday> jxander: sorry #getdeb
[09:09] <gordonjcp> so other than suggestions to change the pretty frontend, no-one's got any advice on sorting out the CD-ROM then?
[09:10] <jxander> ziroday, thanks, i didn't know about the channel...
[09:10] <Freku> maybe a rights problem ?
[09:10] <ziroday> jxander: no problem :)
[09:10] <gordonjcp> Freku: presumably if that was the case, then running wodim as root would work
[09:10] <Freku> yep
[09:10] <gordonjcp> Freku: in any case, I shouldn't need to mess about with permissions for it to work
[09:10] <tinybear> whois
[09:11] <tinybear> 8.10?
[09:11] <Freku> just try to google it  and rights came up
[09:11] <Freku> :)
[09:11] <Abracadabr4> hi /all
[09:11] <ziroday> tinybear: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:11] <jim_p> ziroday: are you on ati AND fglrx on ubuntu 8.10?
[09:11] <ziroday> jim_p: unfortunately no, lemme go dig something up :)
[09:12] <ziroday> jim_p: see http://www.ubuntu.net/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#ATI%20%22fglrx%22%20video%20support
[09:13] <ziroday> jim_p: and see http://www.rebelzero.com/hardware/ubuntu-810-atiamd-fglrx-driver-updated/30
[09:13] <ziroday> jim_p: and you can ask the great people in #ubuntu-x as well :)
[09:13] <gordonjcp> Freku: it says there's no medium present - I don't see how permissions would cause that
[09:13] <gordonjcp> Freku: it works perfectly in NetBSD, so I'm guessing the drive is okay
[09:13] <jim_p> ziroday: wait there
[09:13] <ziroday> jim_p: yessir
[09:13] <ay^> gordonjcp: if you lack read-permissions it wouldnät notice the medium, I suppose
[09:14] <Freku> yeah  its a real strange 1
[09:14] <gordonjcp> ay^: if I run it as root, permissions shouldn't be a problem
[09:14] <Freku> tried it with a livecd yet ?
[09:14] <ay^> gordonjcp: oh that might be true..
[09:15] <gordonjcp> Freku: what's wrong with that picture?
[09:15] <Freku> lol
[09:15] <ay^> hehe
[09:15] <Freku> i shutting up now  :)
[09:15] <gordonjcp> Freku: think carefully now... ;-)
[09:15] <Cann0n> what is sit0 and wmaster0 in my ifconfig
[09:15] <ay^> have you tried it with a liveUSB?
[09:16] <stevej678> what the way to get Atheros AR242x 802.11abg going in hardy?
[09:16] <jim_p> ziroday: hmmmm when did ati fix it? this would be big news ! even bigger then the economical crisis
[09:16] <stevej678> just need some direction
[09:16] <ziroday> jim_p: a while before 8.10 was released :)
[09:17] <ziroday> Cann0n: for sit0 read http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/02/msg02537.html
[09:17] <stevej678> ndis wrapper?
[09:17] <jxander> ziroday, if i've checked the backports then will i get new releases of the packages i use even if i'm on 8.04.1? in fact, the question would be: will there be other official updates besides security updates for 8.04.1?
[09:17] <ziroday> jxander: sometimes, what packages are you looking for?
[09:17] <Cann0n> what is sit0 and wmaster0 in my ifconfig
[09:17] <Cann0n> b43
[09:17] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive got a folder under Places Network which is a sftp location, i open a file from this within dreamweaver under wine,which opens fine. So i try and save it, yet rather than saving to where it should, its now listing it under say: /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/user/documents/then the file.tpl  any ideas why?
[09:17] <ziroday> Cann0n: and wmaster0 is probably your wireless card
[09:17] <Bullen> Hello
[09:18] <Cann0n> ziroday: what about wlan0?
[09:18] <Cann0n> why would i have two?
[09:18] <Bullen> I have a question, I just updated from hardy to intrepid, but while updating, the installer removed support for my wifi, it was previously autoconfigured when i installed hardy... what do i do to fix it? :)
[09:18] <smack_tat> why does running wireshark as root dangerous??????
[09:18] <Bullen> (noob question!!)
[09:18] <ziroday> Cann0n: see this forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697807
[09:19] <jim_p> where are the gnome-session sattings stored?
[09:19] <jim_p> *settings
[09:19] <ziroday> Bullen: have you looked in err System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[09:19] <Mahalo> Dang, you folk are active!
[09:19] <ziroday> smack_tat: running any program as root is dangerous
[09:19] <Cann0n> im actually pretty tired of reading forums... no one has yet gave me a link to any kind of information other than a bunch of noobs bickering about ndiswrapper, when i dont even have ndiswrapper support in my kernel
[09:20] <smack_tat> can u descrbie the danger
[09:20] <smack_tat> what can it do?
[09:20] <Mahalo> This is great, I know where to shop when I need assistance. Thanks for doing what y'all are doing.
[09:20] <ziroday> smack_tat: it can potentially write to important system files doing horrible things to your computer
[09:20] <ay^> smack_tat: I'm only guessing here, but perhaps overwrite some settings for you connection
[09:21] <smack_tat> omg......
[09:21] <Cann0n> smack_tat: it's not that dangerous.
[09:21] <smack_tat> i am doing security and i am not aware of those dangers
[09:21] <Cann0n> it wont make your computer not boot the next time you shutdown
[09:21] <ay^> smack_tat: consider it impossible if not run as root, and possible when done as root
[09:21] <gordonjcp> oh, I give up
[09:22] <Cann0n> smack_tat: security in which sense? iptables/ipchains and nat?
[09:22] <ziroday> Cann0n: it can
[09:22] <smack_tat> ok!!!! got it
[09:22] <ay^> smack_tat: same with any app, say gedit, if you aint running it as root you CANNOT write to importan system files, while as root you can, doesn't mean you WILL
[09:22] <gordonjcp> evidently Linux won't work with this CD writer
[09:22] <gordonjcp> weird, but there you go
[09:22] <smack_tat> CAnnon: i'm idoing an infosecurity project
[09:22]  * DreadKnight @  anyone knows a good pixel font manager?
[09:22] <Cann0n> ziroday: now why would have i two wifi interfaces if one doesnt work, and it never popped up until i compiled 2.6.27.2
[09:22] <ay^> gordonjcp: does it work with a live environment?
[09:22]  * DreadKnight @  anyone knows a good pixel font creator* ?
[09:22] <gordonjcp> ay^: I have no way of knowing
[09:23] <ziroday> Cann0n: did you read the forum thread I sent you?
[09:23] <Cann0n> smack_tat: type can and then hit the tab button. thats called tab completion
[09:23] <smack_tat> while i learn about network sniffing, i try to encrpt messegers
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ay^: 1) how would I boot from a live cd then burn a cd, and 2) how would I burn the livecd in the first place?
[09:23] <smack_tat> ok
[09:23] <ay^> gordonjcp: you dont ;P
[09:23] <ziroday> DreadKnight: possibly http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ay^: well there you go then
[09:23] <ay^> gordonjcp: you put the environment on a USB-stick instaed
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ay^: haven't got a big enough one
[09:24] <ay^> gordonjcp: w00t it only needs like 1gb
[09:24] <jxander> ziroday, many, vlc for example... i asked on getdeb, but they didn't answer, so i was hoping that at some point, the official ubuntu repositories would get a newer version of vlc...
[09:24] <zajca_> hi, I need help with mpd, i can't see database in any client. nothing in log. mdp.db look's OK.
[09:24] <gordonjcp> ay^: I don't have USB sticks, they're just not something I use
[09:24] <ay^> gordonjcp: what a shame ;P
[09:24] <ziroday> jxander: there is new version in 8.10, 8.04 will not recieve updates to those programs as it goes against the entire 6 month release idea
[09:24] <gordonjcp> ay^: what difference would booting from a live environment make anyway?
[09:25] <ay^> gordonjcp: so the only other choice is to boot the livecd from your hdd
[09:25] <DreadKnight> ziroday: thanks, already installed that... will give it a try, not sure if it's for pixel fonts...
[09:25] <ay^> gordonjcp: well it might be that during the install, some error snuck in.
[09:25] <ziroday> DreadKnight: ah sorry, not very familiar with fonts. Possibly the people in #ubuntu-art might know
[09:25] <ay^> gordonjcp: I've had that happen to my wifi once, worked great in live didn't work in installed
[09:25] <BuFF> ; d
[09:26] <jxander> ziroday, thanks... that's the answer i was looking for...
[09:26] <Cann0n> ziroday: yeah i did but it didn't tell me anything
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ay^: worth a shot I suppose
[09:26] <DreadKnight> ziroday: thanks for the suggestion, will ask there as well :-)
[09:26] <zajca_> hi, I need help with mpd, i can't see database in any client. nothing in log. mdp.db look's OK.
[09:26] <Freku> maybe borrow a 2nd drive from a friend ?
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ay^: right, well, I'll go and get a USB drive then
[09:26] <Cann0n> only reason im in here is because it's 4:27 my time and all my regular chans are dead... and it's driving me crazy
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ay^: I know the drive works perfectly
[09:27] <ziroday> Cann0n: is your wireless not working?
[09:27] <Cann0n> links to forums suck. the one you send me, they mostly talked about some dude who had been away for a while... ziroday
[09:27] <Cann0n> ziroday: im on wifi...
[09:27] <Spatman> Some one Run World of warcraft on ubutnuu?
[09:27] <ziroday> Cann0n: I am going to PM you the relevant section of the forum post I gave you
[09:27] <ay^> gordonjcp: you could boot it off of your hdd as well
[09:27] <Cann0n> on using b43 driver on a broadcom 4306 chipset, with 2.6.27.2 kernel, on wlan0 interface
[09:28] <smack_tat> Spatman, yup i did and it is stable but still not at windows level
[09:28] <ziroday> The wmaster0 device is what we call the master device. The master device is an internal master device used only by mac80211. It should be ignored by users. If possible we will try to hide it from users later.
[09:28] <ramontayag> on ibex, when my desktop fx are on, i yakuake doesn't seem to display the bottom-most line properly. it's as if it updates only sometimes. ubuntu is fully updated and upgraded. what should I do to fix this? if I can't, is there a good alternative to yakuake that you recommend?
[09:28] <ay^> gordonjcp: tho I have to go to now, but there are ways at least.
[09:28] <ziroday> Cann0n: woops. please read ^^^
[09:28] <Cann0n> so this is a new kernel feature then?
[09:29] <ziroday> Cann0n: err not, its setup by the driver.
[09:29] <Cann0n> but b43 never brought wmaster0 until after i compiled a new kernel
[09:30] <ziroday> Cann0n: then contact the b43 authors and ask them about it
[09:30] <^andrea^> Hi everyone, I just installed the SAMBA server under Hardy, it works pretty well... the unique problem is that it does not start on boot, any idea? thanks (PS: I didn't find any advice about this under hardy)
[09:31] <DreadKnight> good
[09:31] <ziroday> !boot | andreaja_
[09:31] <ziroday> woops, ^andrea^ please read ^^
[09:31] <Cann0n> i guess this was the wrong place to come for help
[09:32] <DreadKnight> cover me
[09:32] <ramontayag> the solutions I use to use on hardy to automatically mount disks are no longer working on ibex. what can I do to automatically mount disks?
[09:32] <Cann0n> ziroday: so, what is a .conf?
[09:32] <vhellmet> I removed kernel 2.6.26-7.15 and installed 2.6.26-7.14 .. Now I can only boot from 2.6.26-4 .. How do I add GRUB options for the Kernel 2.6.26-7.14 ?
[09:32] <Spatman> Some one Run World of warcraft on ther ubuntu? how do it work?
[09:32] <ziroday> Cann0n: a config file...
[09:32] <ziroday> Spatman: one second please
[09:32] <lianimator1> Spatman: probably with wine
[09:33] <ziroday> vhellmet: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst however the options should have been added automatically
[09:33] <^andrea^> Ok, I'm gonna read there... thanks...
[09:33] <Cann0n> so, sit0 is a tunneling interface right? so wouldn't that cause virsues?
[09:33] <Cann0n> virii or what ever they are
[09:33] <^andrea^> Cann0n: Were you talking to me? and in case, why wrong place? :-|
[09:33] <vhellmet> ziroday, they weren't .. I didn't do it from updates.. I did it using Synaptic PM
[09:33] <The-Croupier> Cann0n , malware you mean
[09:33]  * The-Croupier hides
[09:34] <Cann0n> The-Croupier: thats the stuff
[09:34] <Cann0n> wouldn't sit0 cause people to hack me?
[09:34]  * chopp hacks Cann0n 
[09:34] <vhellmet> ziroday, also, when I edit the menu at boot and put in -7.14 or -7 instead of -4 it doesn't work. It stops at "Waiting for root"
[09:34] <Cann0n> if it is used for tunnelling?
[09:34] <ziroday> Cann0n: err no. If you read the link I gave you it just tunnels IPV6 to IPV4 or something like that
[09:35] <ziroday> vhellmet: sorry, I am slightly lost. Why are you changing the boot options?
[09:36] <vhellmet> ziroday, coz I can't seem to boot into the new kernel
[09:36] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive got a folder under Places Network which is a sftp location, i open a file from this within dreamweaver under wine,which opens fine. So i try and save it, yet rather than saving to where it should, its now listing it under say: /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/user/documents/then the file.tpl  any ideas why?
[09:36] <ziroday> vhellmet: okay. any error messages?
[09:37] <ziroday> Spatman: see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14154
[09:37] <siccness> join #ubuntu-au
[09:37] <siccness> whoops
[09:37] <vhellmet> 2.6.27-7 stops at Waiting for root file system
[09:37] <Cann0n> how do i get my webcam working on ubuntu?
[09:37] <bitwiseshiftleft> question: so i have this broken package in apt... it won't install and won't uninstall, and carps at me everytime i do anything in teh package manager
[09:37] <siccness> forgot the forward slash, apologies.
[09:37] <The-Croupier> siccness: yes we know
[09:37] <bitwiseshiftleft> so, how can i tell apt/dpkg/whatever to just forget that it ever existed?
[09:38] <siccness> I don't care if you know.
[09:38] <The-Croupier> i dont care if you forgot the slash either :P
[09:38] <siccness> Stiff.
[09:38] <vhellmet> ziroday, 2.6.27-7 stops at Waiting for root file system
[09:38] <maalaghorn_> irc://irc.freenode.net/limesurvey
[09:38] <siccness> vhellmet: have fun with that.
[09:38] <ziroday> vhellmet: not sure sorry
[09:39] <vhellmet> siccness, eh?
[09:39] <vhellmet> ziroday, thanks for trying
[09:40] <Cann0n> how do i get the cube to work?
[09:40] <bazhang> !ccsm | Cann0n
[09:40] <jxander> is there a way to make audacity and songbird for example sound together? or any other two apps use the sound together? game and audio player?
[09:41] <Cann0n> how to i install it? its not in add/remove
[09:41] <ziroday> jxander: using pulseaudio?
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> !software | Cann0n
[09:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install packagename Cann0n
[09:42] <^andrea^> jxander: I had the same problem, I partially solved it with PulseAudio...
[09:42] <Venin> how do i keep the same time in windows and in ubuntu?
[09:42] <Venin> im doing dual boot
[09:42] <Cann0n> thats a clever short cut. i guess so many amateur users come in here, automatic help makes things move better huh
[09:42] <sint> hey, i've tried to install the newer ati driver and now my X is broken. why is there almost nothing written into xorg.conf in 8.10? this puzzles me! is there a new config file for X?
[09:42] <jxander> ziroday, i know that audacity doesn't support pulseaudio, but i was wondering for other apps... is pulse audio the only way?
[09:43] <Cann0n> Venin: sync it to your hardward clock
[09:43] <Venin> i think i did that
[09:43] <^andrea^> jxander: but some application still conflict (like skype)
[09:43] <jxander> ^andrea^, yeah... partially... but is there a way to make it fully compatible?
[09:43] <Venin> but it still changes the clock in windows
[09:43] <The-Croupier> windows?
[09:43] <ziroday> jxander: not that I know off, besides playing both apps at the same time
[09:43] <jxander> ^andrea^, indeed
[09:43] <henkpoley> During 8.04->8.10 upgrade my gnome window decoration disappeared, what can I restart to get that back for the session ?
[09:44] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[09:44] <ziroday> henkpoley: were you using emerald?
[09:44] <henkpoley> ziroday:  might be
[09:44] <perlmonkey> I'm getting my mailbox bombed every 20 mins with  Cron Daemon msg: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 1248: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[09:44] <Cann0n> which is it that makes me so i can use windows programs on the ubuntu? sorry for asking so many questions. im new and just trying to set it all up before i have to travel to london
[09:44] <perlmonkey> how to disable? do i need sendmail
[09:44] <hateball> henkpoley» emerald --replace &, or metacity --replace &, depending which you use
[09:44] <ziroday> henkpoley: can you open a terminal up and type emerald --replace
[09:44] <henkpoley> I haven't done much with this sytem in a year
[09:44] <Venin> Cann0n: i ran this command : sudo hwclock --localtime; sudo hwclock --systohc
[09:45] <ziroday> Cann0n: wine
[09:45] <henkpoley> Recently updated it to hardy for a linux based programming course
[09:45] <ziroday> !wine | Cann0n
[09:45] <Cann0n> Venin: i dont know, i haven't used windows since ME first came out
[09:45] <deftone> Has anyone ever made their own grub menu background before??
[09:46] <jxander> ziroday, ok... got it, no chance... but why is it so weird for 2 apps to use sound at the same time... bloody windoze can do it... is it really hard to implement, or not all the apps support the same sound systems? is that it?
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> deftone: yeah
[09:46] <ziroday> jxander: sound is a bit of a mess, what two apps are you trying to play sound with?
[09:47] <^andrea^> jxander: I think there is a chance... for example now my application sound well together, just skype can't...
[09:47] <henkpoley> ziroday: no focus to the terminal :-P
[09:47] <Venin> how do i keep the same time in windows and in ubuntu? it keeps changing in windows
[09:47] <Cann0n> so, is there any other guis other than gnome thingy?
[09:48] <^andrea^> jxander: *my applicationSSSS
[09:48] <ziroday> Cann0n: many, kde is a popular o
[09:48] <ziroday> *one
[09:48] <jxander> ziroday, i just want to be able to listen to music with songbird and play xmoto, urban terror, or anything else :)
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> Cann0n: a few hundred, yes.
[09:48] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: what are you trying to do? and what is your setup?
[09:48]  * The-Croupier doesnt like kde
[09:48] <enquest> is there a freesoftware app for webprototyping?
[09:48] <nmh-j2graw> enquest: like ruby on rails?
[09:49] <enquest> no to plan a website
[09:49] <Cann0n> what is kde?
[09:49] <DreadKnight> Cann0n: Kool desktop Environment
[09:49] <ziroday> !kde > Cann0n
[09:49] <netyire> !kde
[09:49] <DreadKnight> Cann0n: an alternate to GNOME
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> Venin: edit /etc/default/rcS, change "UTC=" to no.
[09:49] <nmh-j2graw> enquest: gimp / inkscape / dia / xfig
[09:50] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, software or hardware setup?
[09:50] <Cann0n> thats neato burrito. linux ubuntu haves two guis
[09:50] <ziroday> Cann0n: err as tonyyarusso said, there are hundreds
[09:50] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: hmmm... well, what soundcard do you have, and what software?
[09:50] <Venin> tonyyarusso: ty.. will try
[09:50] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: are you using a sound daemon?
[09:50] <The-Croupier> i read somewhere that linux is a version of ubuntu is that true
[09:50] <Cann0n> i hear something about travelocity
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: no.
[09:50] <The-Croupier> why what is wrong
[09:50] <Balachmar> Hi is anyone else having trouble with hotmail? My gf uses it and see can read email, however, the email editor doesn't work it stays inactive.
[09:51] <^andrea^> jxander: I followed a tutorial to solve the problem with PulseAudio but it's in italian... if you understand italian I give the link, otherwise it'd be useless... :-|
[09:51] <nmh-j2graw> The-Croupier: ubuntu is a linux distribution (gnu/linux to some)
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: Linux is the kernel.  Ubuntu is a distribution that combines the Linux kernel with GNU utilities, GNOME, and various other software like Firefox, with some customizations along the way.
[09:51] <Cann0n> then wahts unix?
[09:51] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, i use a dell inspiron 6400 lappy with a sigmatel stac92xx and i'm using pulseaudio...
[09:51] <netyire> !unix
[09:52] <The-Croupier> so unix came from linux
[09:52] <jxander> ^andrea^, sure, please... i remember a bit from highschool :P
[09:52] <Cann0n> 1972 i think
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: No, Linux didn't exist until 1991.
[09:52] <gordonjcp> The-Croupier: other way round
[09:52] <Cann0n> but then how tome Unix Time starts jan 1 of 1970?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> gordonjcp: not that either.
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Linux was made to be similar in many ways to Unix, but isn't derived from it.
[09:52] <perlmonkey> I'm getting my mailbox bombed every 20 mins with  Cron Daemon msg: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 1248: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[09:53] <The-Croupier> what do  you mean not derived from it
[09:53] <perlmonkey> is it safe to remove sendmail?
[09:53] <^andrea^> jxander: hehe, if you wanna try... http://www.oneopensource.it/04/11/2008/ubuntu-810-sfruttare-pulseaudio/
[09:53] <Cann0n> tonyyarusso: what year did linux come out in?
[09:53] <BrokenPeace> is this computer history 101.....Read a book
[09:53] <siccness> Cann0n: 93
[09:53] <siccness> iirc
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> The-Croupier: I mean they do not share any code, so it can't be said that Linux was a fork or anything from Unix.
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Cann0n: 1991.
[09:53] <jxander> ^andrea^, i have no choice :P
[09:53] <Cann0n> siccness: thats the year Slackware came out. :P
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> We should continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[09:53] <siccness> It doesn't matter, UNIX is superior.
[09:54] <siccness> THere's nothing better than IBM's AIX.
[09:54] <The-Croupier> siccness: why is that
[09:54] <Cann0n> siccness: then why aren't you on slackware?
[09:54] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: so the problem you have is that only one program can play sound at a time?
[09:54] <^andrea^> jxander: ask in a private chat if you need help...
[09:54] <siccness> I'm on Windows, Cann0n
[09:54] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, yeah...
[09:54] <siccness> The-Croupier: VIO/LPAR/DLPAR/APAR
[09:54] <jxander> ^andrea^, thanks :D
[09:54] <siccness> That's why.
[09:54] <siccness> Power6
[09:54] <Cann0n> siccness: then why are you in #ubuntu and using windows?
[09:54] <granden> Hi, if I would like to connect through my 3G mobile phone, an Sony Ericsson W890i would that be possible in ubuntu? I only found some guide using an Nokia.
[09:54] <siccness> Cann0n: because Jesus told me to.
[09:55] <Cann0n> im pegan
[09:55] <The-Croupier> in some countries thay dont believe in jesus
[09:55] <netyire> Jesus loves everyone, even ppl who use windows
[09:55] <The-Croupier> or ubuntu
[09:55] <siccness> The-Croupier: That's not specific to countries.
[09:55] <Cann0n> well, im new to linux
[09:55] <splitz> Hi. i nead some help with my mouse. ist a mx518. sidebuttons works in FF but not in nautilus. i have tryed to google it but cant finde annything.  annyone have a solutin for this?
[09:55] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, i'll try something from what ^andrea^ gave me and then i'll give you more details...
[09:56] <siccness> splitz: I have a solution but you're not going to like it
[09:56] <splitz> that is?
[09:56] <maxime_> hello !
[09:56] <siccness> Don't use the sidebuttons.
[09:56] <Guest99304> ls
[09:56] <Cann0n> no, with this apt-get mouse driver thing, how do i get up wheel mouse?
[09:56] <henkpoley> granden: most mobile phones with bluetooth expose a 'modem', just try browsing it with some bluetooth tools
[09:56] <maxime_> the Free Si
[09:56] <splitz> well i kind of need it.
[09:57] <siccness> You don't kind of need it, you wan't it.
[09:57] <angy221> HELLO
[09:57] <nmh-j2graw> jxander: sounds good - I am not familiar with pulseaudio, but one thing I saw was "turn it off"
[09:57] <siccness> *want
[09:57] <nmh-j2graw> I don't know if that will do much for you
[09:57] <angy221> !LIST
[09:57] <granden> henkpoley: Ok, I guess I have to check it out then. Havent bought the laptop yet, I first need to know if itt would work.
[09:57] <henkpoley> angy221: YOUR CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN
[09:57] <splitz> i need it to be more productive when i work...
[09:58] <angy221> ciao
[09:58] <Cann0n> is it ok to have root and be in here?
[09:58] <angy221> !list
[09:58] <henkpoley> granden: does your phone have bluetooth? And do people use it for internet sharing on windows or OS X ?
[09:58] <perlmonkey> is sendmail actually needed
[09:58] <^andrea^> nmh-j2graw: I don't know what jxander's problem is, but that tutorial solved my problem under hardy...
[09:58] <Cann0n> how do i turn off passwords for my user? that gets annoying
[09:58] <jxander> nmh-j2graw, you mean bypass pulseaudio? i've heard that is necessary for audacity to work
[09:58] <Cann0n> im trying to set up mouse wheel
[09:58] <maxime_> the launch of the Free Software Awards " Trophées du Libre 2009"
[09:58] <granden> henkpoley: I dont know if it works with internet sharing with bluetooth but I used it with cable on Windows
[09:58] <jxander> ^andrea^, reading it... i still got it :P
[09:58] <henkpoley> granden: then you ought to get it to work
[09:58] <granden> And yes it got bluetooth.
[09:58] <The-Croupier> being root and be anywhere is not nice... but whatever works for you
[09:58] <nmh-j2graw> ^andrea^: well, if it worked, that should be good
[09:59] <henkpoley> granden: err dunno about cables though
[09:59] <granden> Ok
[09:59] <granden> I would not mind using bluetooth but ain't that a bit slow for 3G?
[09:59] <siccness> Cann0n: im root everywhere
[09:59] <granden> HDSPA*
[09:59] <siccness> I wouldn't be concerned
[09:59] <^andrea^> nmh-j2graw: afak just skype does not like PulseAudio at all...
[09:59] <Cann0n> siccness: you don't make user?
[09:59] <jxander> ^andrea^, i might forgotten to install one of the packets... who knows... checking :)
[09:59] <nmh-j2graw> ^andrea^: oh, well I don't like skype, so I don't worry about that
[09:59] <siccness> Got better things to do than make users
[10:00] <^andrea^> nmh-j2graw: of course I didn't try all the software in the world... ;-)
[10:00] <maxime_> http://www.trophees-du-libre.org
[10:00] <jim_p> anyone good at torrents?
[10:00] <Cann0n> siccness: for how man months have you used linux?
[10:00] <siccness> Since 1999
[10:00] <siccness> so whatever year we're in now
[10:00] <jim_p> what ports do i have to open? 6881 to 6889 is not good enough
[10:00] <grizzancs> it is 2015.
[10:01] <The-Croupier> jim_p: open them all
[10:01] <The-Croupier> its 2090
[10:01] <Cann0n> siccness: do you understand the concept of making a user versus using root all the time?
[10:01] <siccness> No, please inform me young wise man.
[10:02] <siccness> I assumed that all users contained the same priveleges regardless of their name!
[10:02] <henkpoley> granden: you could try on your current system
[10:02] <siccness> Oh no, what have I been doing wrong for these last 9 years!?!?!
[10:02] <jim_p> grizzancs, The-Croupier: 2015 to 2090? i think isp block these
[10:02] <Cann0n> siccness: are you use you use linux?
[10:02] <Cann0n> sure*
[10:02] <Neaai> Why is it that after every reboot, the ethernet looses configuration? It always reverts to DHCP configuration.
[10:02] <siccness> I think so, I mean, I dunno, am i?!?!?
[10:02] <chopp> tard alert
[10:02] <Tyrath> I have this problem where when I plug in my AC adapter it shuts the comp off. Does anyone have a fix?
[10:02] <siccness> Neaai: save the configuration might be a solid starting point
[10:03] <Cann0n> if i recall right, being in root all the time can be dangerous....
[10:03] <granden> henkpoley: I dont know really if it would work I'm using Slackware on through VMWare. So Its not a physical computer.
[10:03] <siccness> Cann0n: why is that?
[10:03] <lianimator1> The-Croupier: is it safe?
[10:03] <Neaai> siccness: if there were a save option yes.
[10:03] <Tyrath> !anacron
[10:03] <siccness> Neaai: oh but there is.
[10:03] <Tamaros_> it gives you the ultimate power to do somthing stupid and destroy your system
[10:03] <granden> I guess I could try with a LiveDisc on my macbook though.
[10:03] <lianimator1> The-Croupier: from what port to what?
[10:03] <The-Croupier> lianimator1: if  you open ports its never safe
[10:03]  * march is away: brb
[10:03] <chopp> granden: is slackware cool or what?
[10:03] <Tyrath> !power manager | Tyrath
[10:03] <lianimator1> The-Croupier: even on a linux?
[10:03] <granden> chopp: :)
[10:03] <The-Croupier> lianimator1: you dont have to open anything.. just check what port does your torrent app use
[10:04] <cabrini> to get my network to work I have to type ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 every time the other computer is switched on. How can I fix this or perform it automatically?
[10:04] <Neaai> siccness: no there's not. there's only "OK" and "cancel"
[10:04] <The-Croupier> and open only that
[10:04] <Cann0n> slackware > ubuntu = death > windows
[10:04] <granden> But I get a ubuntu live disc and try it on my macbook. I could get the normal i386 version for my macbook right?
[10:04] <chopp> is slackware a ubuntu fork?
[10:04] <Cann0n> siccness: i dont understand how you give help yet know little about basic linux security.
[10:04] <Cann0n> no
[10:04] <granden> chopp: No
[10:05] <deftone> Anyone ever make a Grub menu background ??
[10:05] <lianimator1> The-Croupier: I've configured transmission to use 6881 to 6889 and firestarter to open those. I think I'm fine.
[10:05] <Tyrath> how close is ubuntu to linux? like does it just use shell or is it actually really alike?
[10:05] <Cann0n> Slackware and Ubuntu should never EVER be in the same sentence, unless the sentence is "Slackware is better than Ubuntu"
[10:05] <siccness> Cann0n: I don't either, I must be guessing!
[10:05] <Tyrath> and don't give me the, its a lsb stuff
[10:05] <granden> Cann0n: :D
[10:05] <Tyrath> :P
[10:05]  * Tyrath has never used linux so can
[10:05] <Tyrath> -t compare
[10:05] <nmh-j2graw> what is this crazyness?
[10:06] <Tyrath> 't compare
[10:06] <maxime_> We are delighted to announce the launch of the "Trophées du Logiciel libre" (called TL09 for free software development) on October 15th, 2008 and should be closed by the winning ceremony around the second quarter of 2009.
[10:06] <iLLf8d> got a quick gnomer question I know its offtopic and for a deblike dist but is there a way to startup pidkin w/out using xession or the like at the start of a gnome login?
[10:06] <Tyrath> maxime_: grats :D
[10:06] <iLLf8d> pidgin even
[10:06]  * Tyrath should join the cause and develop some software but only knows java :/
[10:07] <iLLf8d> got too many pikmins on the brain I guess =P
[10:07] <Tyrath> oh... and vb
[10:07] <Tyrath> but vb doesn't count :P
[10:07] <maxime_> www.trophees-du-libre.org
[10:07] <Tyrath> and I know ASP and PHP but you can't program with those too :/
[10:07] <maxime_> just free licence
[10:08] <cabrini> how do I make file browser have root permissions?
[10:08] <maxime_> chmod
[10:08] <Tyrath> cabrini: chmod +xwr foldnername
[10:08] <siccness> cabrini: gksudo nautilus
[10:09] <maxime_> you can
[10:09] <lianimator1> iLLf8d: why won't you use session? how about rc.local?
[10:09] <Tyrath> does anyone use elinks? or fbgs?
[10:09] <Tyrath> - or anything console related
[10:10] <Tyrath> - actually forget the last question
[10:10] <Tyrath> it's a stupid question
[10:10] <grizzancs> :))
[10:10] <Tyrath> so does anyone use elinks or fbgs?
[10:10] <iLLf8d> I'm just lookin for some gnome bloat that they've designed to launch this crap
[10:10] <lianimator1> cabrini: gksudo nautilus
[10:10] <lianimator1> hello? is my net hanging?
[10:10] <Tyrath> grizzancs: do you use fbgs?
[10:11] <grizzancs> no, i don't even know what fbgs is
[10:11] <iLLf8d> guess I'll have to do it from sys->prefs->sessins
[10:11]  * Tyrath is seriously considering sticking to console mode given the comp doesn't seem to randomly boot off in console mode
[10:11] <Pest> i have problem with Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager can anyone help ? :(
[10:12] <Tyrath> iLLf8d: what do you want to do?
[10:12] <Tyrath> Pest: what's up?
[10:12] <nmh-j2graw> Pest: use the compiz-config-manager
[10:12] <Tyrath> Pes: System -> Pregs -> Compiz
[10:12] <iLLf8d> just fire off pidgin I'll add it in there
[10:12] <Pest>  i was playing with  Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager and on Accessibility  i click on Zoom (something) and the monitor just flash and log me off...when i try to log in (50 times) the monitor only flash and log me off again
[10:12] <Cann0n> does compiz serve a purpose?
[10:13] <Tyrath> Cann0n: it's good for key binds :D
[10:13] <siccness> I use elinks
[10:13] <iLLf8d> hopefully it wont start it till xwindows fires  up
[10:13] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I can't use it for much else tho cause my nvidia drivers failed :/
[10:13] <cabrini>  I have to type ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 every time the network is started. How can I fix this or perform it automatically?
[10:13] <siccness> mutt+elinks+irssi+ncmpc = winning combination
[10:13] <netyire> Cann0n: it's like christmas tree lights
[10:13] <Cann0n> Tyrath: don't the gui's have keybinding features?
[10:13] <Tyrath> siccness: how can I set up elinks to use javascript?
[10:13] <Pest> now i`m using LiveCD and i can access the system folder of the program but i don`t know how to change the settings
[10:13] <Tyrath> Cann0n: they do. but I can bind to folders for example using compiz
[10:14] <Tyrath> Cann0n: that's really the only thing I'm using it for atm but it is conveniant
[10:14] <siccness> iirc, ubuntu packages elinks with javascript
[10:14] <sken> Hello ubu guys
[10:14] <siccness> you can test this by doing: elinks --version
[10:14] <Cann0n> Tyrath: seems like a waste of resources
[10:14] <iLLf8d> brb
[10:14] <siccness> it'll state whether or not elinks was compiled with js support
[10:14] <Tyrath> Cann0n: well if there was something else I'd prob use that. But also compiz makes things look nice if your graphic drivers are working
[10:15] <carrera> when try installing a .deb package by clicking on it, "Package Installer" complains of another software management tool running. But I don't see Update Manager, Aptitude or Synaptic in my process list
[10:15] <Tyrath> !iirc
[10:15] <Seaboy> ﻿please help me get my desktop back, I just have a white screen after logging in
[10:15] <Seaboy> ﻿please help me get my desktop back, I just have a white screen after logging in
[10:15] <m0niker> hello sken
[10:15] <siccness> Tyrath: might be worth looking at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elinks/+bug/64031
[10:15] <Tyrath> Seaboy: try console mode: Ctrl + Alt + 1
[10:16] <m0niker> are you trying to boot it in the sea?
[10:16] <Seaboy> ﻿Tyrath: what should I do in console mode?
[10:17] <Cann0n> Tyrath: compiz + emerald or what. last i heard, compiz doesn't make any gui changes as far as decor
[10:17] <Tyrath> siccness: that's I will. I'm not in the mood for downloading another IRC client tho. I quite like Irssi. Especially given I'm now binded all my keys and everything to the way I like it
[10:17] <Seaboy> ﻿m0niker: what?
[10:17] <m0niker> sorry
[10:17] <siccness> irssi is the only decent irc client under Linux anyway
[10:17] <siccness> but definitely setup mpd + ncmpc
[10:17] <m0niker> irssi?
[10:17] <siccness> that's a killer setup
[10:17] <Tyrath> Cann0n: little tweaks, like the mac application switcher, a different maximise feature
[10:17] <Seaboy> ﻿m0niker: no problem
[10:18] <Cann0n> Tyrath: is ubuntu your first distro?
[10:18] <msshams> how can i change fonts of all slides used in a presentation in openoffice?
[10:18] <Tyrath> siccness: I did install spidermonkey but yeh, no luck :/
[10:18] <Pest> can anyone tell me how to change the Accessibility setting of Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager  manual from settings file ? :(
[10:18] <Tyrath> Cann0n: distro of what? of linux? -yes
[10:18] <siccness> Tyrath: elinks needs to be compiled with the javascript support
[10:18] <Tyrath> siccness: so i've got to use source :/
[10:19] <siccness> but it appears that the ubuntu crew have decided against it due to how crappy javascript is
[10:19] <siccness> Tyrath: yeah
[10:19] <hardy> lu
[10:19] <Tyrath> siccness: is there no way to configure settings?
[10:19] <siccness> Well when it's compiled with elinks
[10:19] <raulzan> hi all
[10:19] <m0niker> ircssi looks nice.
[10:19] <hardy> je suis francais sos
[10:19] <siccness> there's actually an option in the settings to turn javascript off
[10:19] <Cann0n> Tyrath: some advice is to disable things you dont use, or can find lighter weight alternatives for. it increased performance
[10:19] <siccness> so to be dead honest with you
[10:19] <siccness> im not sure why it hasn't been compiled with it
[10:20] <raulzan> can you tell me what's the problem of the c++? my prof sayd that c++ has a problem.. I don't remember the name, it's similar to "coldblow" or "coolblow". He sayd about it that it's a sort of explosion of the code.. do you know it? what's its name?
[10:20] <Tyrath> Cann0n: yeh. high graphics mode tends to have a fair effect on resources. I just delete things I don't want using apt or synaptic
[10:20] <hardy> personne parle francais
[10:20] <belim> i am having a few issues with display management. I am running on a Dell E6500 laptop and when plugging in a vga monitor or dvi one using the docking station it doest work well at all! the external display is really glitchy and unusable!
[10:20] <Neaai> !fr
[10:20] <lianimator> I've opened the ports 6881-6889 in firestarter. but transmission says 6881 is closed. what to do?
[10:20] <hardy> merci
[10:20] <Seaboy> any help? I don't have my desktop for a whole day
[10:20] <Tyrath> hardy: je pense que tu doit aller au #ubuntu-fr
[10:21] <nmh-j2graw> raulzan: try asking in a a c++ channel?
[10:21] <pickknic> hardy: allez a #ubuntu-fr
[10:21] <siccness> turn off firestarter/clear iptables would be a good start
[10:21] <m0niker> what do you do different? seaboy
[10:21] <raulzan> nmh-j2graw: there is nobody
[10:21]  * Tyrath wishes he could find a remedy for bugs himself
[10:21] <Neaai> Seaboy: does that happen for other users in your system ?
[10:21] <Cann0n> belim: make sure you know what you are doing. if you plug a CRT monitor in, you could break the monitor
[10:21] <Tyrath> does anyone else have anacron issues?
[10:22] <belim> Cann0n: its a LCD mate
[10:22] <nmh-j2graw> raulzan: maybe the question needs more background to make sense
[10:22] <Cann0n> ah, what drivers are you using?
[10:22] <belim> who would still be using CRT? :p
[10:22] <Tyrath> actually does anyone elses comp shut off when their battery power is low and they plug in an AC adapter
[10:22] <raulzan> uhm yep
[10:22] <siccness> belim: me until a week ago
[10:22] <siccness> went from 15" crt to 24" LCD
[10:23] <Dominik> belim: ill never give up my CRT, variable resolution...
[10:23] <Cann0n> belim: plenty of people use them. i have 4 or  5 laying around
[10:23] <belim> Cann0n: I dont know, I havent changed any drivers from standard. Its in integrated Intel X4500 gfx chip. so not brilliant!
[10:23] <Tyrath> Cann0n: personally I don't really care that much for graphics. but if I'm going to use a GUI I like it to look good. Also I have proxy issues and the like when I use browsers and the like designed for shell
[10:23] <Cann0n> Tyrath: so that is why u use compiz?
[10:23] <belim> ok I stand corrected about the CRT's! :D
[10:23] <Tyrath> Cann0n: stuff that set HTTP_PROXY won't fix :/
[10:24] <siccness> CRTs are fine
[10:24] <Cann0n> belim: recompile a kernel specifically for your system.
[10:24] <siccness> heaps of people still use them
[10:24] <Tyrath> Cann0n: nope just for key binds
[10:24] <Tyrath> Cann0n: and I can't be bothered finding and installing a lite version
[10:24] <Seaboy> ﻿Neaai: there is no other user. how can create another to check?
[10:24] <Cann0n> Tyrath: why not use .Xmodmap?
[10:24] <belim> Cann0n: Ok I will do! :)
[10:25] <Tyrath> Cann0n: there's probably some way to build it so only some features are installed but I can't be bothered figuring it out atm
[10:25] <Tyrath> Cann0n: besides I don't want to have to rebind my keys again :P
[10:25] <Seaboy> ﻿m0niker: I have no desktop (just a white screen) after logging in
[10:25] <siccness> Gentoo is a far better Linux distribution than Ubuntu.
[10:25] <pickknic> There's a huge amount of info/howto's for RAIDs on the web, mostly ancient stuff and all conflicting. Can someone tell me what to use to create a RAID array in 8.10 (not to boot from, just for file storage)? LVM? mdadm? dmadm? something else?
[10:25] <Tyrath> siccness: how so?
[10:25] <Cann0n> Slackware is far better than any other distro i've tried
[10:25] <siccness> Tyrath: Because it's rolling.
[10:25] <Cann0n> Tyrath: and that is why you are using ubuntu.
[10:25] <m0niker> why cann0?
[10:25] <Tyrath> siccness: I don't get it
[10:26] <siccness> Heh.
[10:26] <m0niker> *Cann0n
[10:26] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I'm using ubuntu cause I accidently installed it with Hardy and ever since I've been using it :P
[10:26] <Neaai> Seaboy: Try ctrl-alt-f1  (this bring your text console)  Login with your username and password and then do:   "sudo adduser newusername". Then press alt-f7 to get back to graphics and kill the session with ctrl-alt-backspace. When prompted, login as the new user you added.
[10:26] <siccness> and let's be honest, there's nothing better than spending 4hrs compiling X
[10:26] <Cann0n> Tyrath: Hardy is a ghey code name for Ubuntu...
[10:27] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I've moved up to Ibex since :P
[10:27] <Cann0n> which is a variant of Debian, geared for noobs
[10:27] <Cann0n> Ibex?
[10:27] <Cann0n> that a new distro?
[10:27] <Tyrath> Intrepid Ibex
[10:27] <siccness> lol
[10:27] <Tyrath> that's the latest
[10:27] <inventor> please help me. i install qemu and kqemu,   modprobe kqemu FATAL: Module kqemu not found.
[10:27] <siccness> inventor: maybe you should look at installing pemu!
[10:27] <siccness> ;-)
[10:27] <Tyrath> inventor: tried installing it from source?
[10:27] <m0niker> Cannon why is slackware the best?
[10:27] <siccness> oo im so evil!
[10:27] <Junee_moetz> ghghg
[10:28] <benovic> well, ubuntu has a far better marketing though :)
[10:28] <siccness> Slackware is a piece of crap.
[10:28] <Cann0n> siccness: why? too hard?
[10:28] <m0niker> WTF
[10:28] <pickknic> slackware is bogan sounding
 no, install apt-get
[10:28] <siccness> too hard? no. too shit.
[10:28] <Tyrath> inventor: try installing it from source
[10:28] <m0niker> why?
[10:28] <siccness> Arch Linux is the key.
[10:28] <Cann0n> Ubuntu is Afircan for "Can't use Debian"
[10:28] <schnootop> hello i was just wondering, if i plugin an external usb HDD should it appear automatically even on the live cd ?
[10:28] <benovic> enought trollin... ubuntu is like obama
[10:28] <Tyrath> inventor: apt-get can fail quite readily
[10:28] <siccness> benovic: what's that meant to mean?
[10:28] <m0niker> troll
[10:28] <Seaboy> ﻿Neaai: i'll try it, thanks
[10:28] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: why are you here?
[10:28] <Cann0n> lol
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:29] <benovic> black AND easy to choose
[10:29] <Tyrath> inventor: because apt-get only works from the repositories and if those repositories are old or not present it won't be much good
[10:29] <m0niker> exactly
[10:29] <siccness> black but white on the inside?
[10:29] <benovic> even for some txans
[10:29] <Cann0n> pure boredom.
[10:29] <m0niker> youre boring us
[10:29] <pickknic> Is it bad ettiquette to repeat a question that got no response 5 mins ago?
[10:29] <inventor> ok.senks. i install last from source
[10:29] <Pest> can anyone tell me how to change the Accessibility setting of Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager  manual from settings file ? :(
[10:29] <Cann0n> Enjoying the windows of linux
[10:29] <nmh-j2graw> maybe you should go somewhere else to be bored
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: wassup?
[10:29] <m0niker> ?
[10:29] <pickknic> There's a huge amount of info/howto's for RAIDs on the web, mostly ancient stuff and all conflicting. Can someone tell me what to use to create a RAID array in 8.10 (not to boot from, just for file storage)? LVM? mdadm? dmadm? something else?
[10:29] <nmh-j2graw> rather than proving how much of a lamer you can be
[10:29] <netyire> Cann0n: try #politics, it's a great place to be bored
[10:29] <Tyrath> gah can no-one help me with my AC issue?
[10:29] <nmh-j2graw> since you don't seem to know anything
[10:30] <Tyrath> - it's the one issue that actually is a pain that needs fixing
[10:30] <Tyrath> the proxy issues aren't a big deal cause I can just use GUI and firefox
[10:30] <magnetik> Hi
[10:30] <m0niker> ubuntu the windows for linux?
[10:30] <Tyrath> hi magnetik
[10:30] <m0niker> i dont think so
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: all i can point you to is the raid factoid, you could also specify the raid level you require
[10:30] <magnetik> Is it possible to have apport started when an application crash ?
[10:30] <Cann0n> nmh-j2graw: maybe, but since Ubuntu attracts noobs, and there are more noobs on the net, this place pretty much is the most crowded channel on freenode....
[10:30] <m0niker> linux is NOT windows
[10:30] <Tyrath> m0niker: you a windows fan?
[10:30] <Cann0n> no duh
[10:30] <m0niker> NO!
[10:30] <Tyrath> lol
[10:31] <m0niker> ubuntu with fluxbox
[10:31] <pickknic> ActionParsnip: raid5
[10:31]  * Tyrath wonders why people come in here and pay out the distro
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> m0niker: amen brother
[10:31] <nmh-j2graw> because they don't know enough to do anything else
[10:31] <Cann0n> i'd rather go to a party with 1.4k folks instead of 200
[10:31] <Tyrath> you know, if you've got the gumption to pay out this distro why don't you go out, start a club and build something better?
[10:31] <m0niker> exactly!!!
[10:31] <Cann0n> either way, i've assisted people in here
[10:31] <nmh-j2graw> see my previous answer for why he can't
[10:32] <nmh-j2graw> I suggest ignoring the troll
[10:32] <ziroday> !offtopic
[10:32] <Tyrath> Cann0n: can you assist me with AC? :P
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !raid | pickknic
[10:32] <m0niker> its because troll waste all there time being idiots
[10:32] <m0niker> *trolls
[10:32] <Tyrath> trolls?
[10:32] <Tyrath> !trolls
[10:32] <Tyrath> lol
[10:32] <m0niker> Sorry obottu
[10:32] <pickknic> ActionParsnip: should that first URL end in "SofwareRAIDHowto" ?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: thats all i know as all my raids are tru raids using true raid cards rather than this fake raid rubbish motherboard folks paw off to users
[10:32] <Cann0n> Tyrath: AC? specify please. AC as in current, or what
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> pickknic: click it, see what you get
[10:33] <sercik> i have a firewall configuration that cannot permit me to access a specific ip address (modem at 192.168.1.1) someone can help me??
[10:33] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I meant plugging in an AC power pack shuts off my computer if I'm in GUI mode and my battery power is low
[10:33] <DSX> Hi I have a Logitech MOMO Racing Wheel and every time I use it, X restarts and comes up with errors. Any ideas?
[10:33] <Neaai> sercik: only that ip address ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> sercik: add a new rule to allow traffic to that ip
[10:33] <sercik> hi Neaai
[10:33] <sercik> yes
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> DSX: id check dmesg
[10:34] <m0niker> only that Ip
[10:34] <sercik> someone can explain me how to do that
[10:34] <Neaai> sercik: pastebin the results of   "iptables -L -v"
[10:34] <m0niker> if ip tables is too hard get a front end like firestarter
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> sercik: well you configured the firewall, add a new rule like you did the rest
[10:34] <Cann0n> Tyrath: no idea. are you using APM or ACPI?
[10:34] <siccness> firestarter blows
[10:34] <m0niker> I prefer learning iptables
[10:34] <siccness> ^
[10:34] <Cann0n> agreed
[10:34] <siccness> iptables is the key
[10:34] <siccness> OR
[10:34] <siccness> pemu
[10:34] <sercik> i'm not at that pc now, but i try to explain
[10:34] <FloodBot1> siccness: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:34] <siccness> Cisco PIX IOS emulation!
[10:34] <Jaffarkelshac> i am having a problem with hotmail where i cant create/write emails with the new look.
[10:35] <Tyrath> Cann0n: I don't know. When I checked the logs it seems to show ACPI stuffing up, but if I do a string search it comes up with apm
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Jaffarkelshac: try a different browser
[10:35] <sercik> the pc have two nic: eth0 connected to a modem adsl and eth1 connected to local lan
[10:35] <sercik> i'm not able to access to 192.168.1.1
[10:35] <m0niker> troubleshoot
[10:35] <sercik> yesterday i have shutted down the firewall and i was able to access to 192.168.1.1
[10:35] <Jaffarkelshac> same problem with epiphany ActionParsnip
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Jaffarkelshac: switch to the old look
[10:36] <Neaai> For firewalls, some of us here might not agree with me, but I like the   http://www.configserver.com/cp/csf.html
[10:36] <m0niker> do that to login to your router then
[10:36] <Tyrath> Cann0n: searching for both in apt-cache brings up a bunch of progs
[10:36] <Cann0n> Tyrath: the best thing i can suggest is research your hardware and compile your own kernel specifically for your computer, this way you can tweak the kernel.
[10:36] <Cann0n> as far as AC and such, i don't know. my battery is shot so i stay plugged in
[10:37] <Neaai> sercik: pastebin the results of:  iptables -L  so we can see if there's anything wrong.
[10:37] <Cann0n> it lasts just long enough to run from plug to plug
[10:37] <Jaffarkelshac> i cant figure out how to change the new look ActionParsnip
[10:37] <Tyrath> tweak the kernel? I didn't know that was possible? I thought kernals only spoke machine language?
[10:37] <sercik> Neaai: i'm not at that pc
[10:37] <Tyrath> Cann0n: lol. i thought you weren't on a ubuntu distro?
[10:37] <Cann0n> im not
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Jaffarkelshac: i dont use hotmail and its not an ubuntu question, check settings maybe
[10:38] <sercik> if you can help me we can speak between 4 hour
[10:38] <Tyrath> Cann0n: so you probably wouldn't get the same probs
[10:38] <Neaai> sercik: oh. Well what do you remember doing before this happened?
[10:38] <Cann0n> if it's a GUI problem effecting your power, it's probably your settings
[10:38] <sercik> Neaai: it was always so i have not done anything
[10:39] <Cann0n> and the best way to know what you settings are is to set the, instead of rely on a remade kernel from the distro itself
[10:39] <DSX> http://pastebin.com/m6245fe0b
[10:39] <Cann0n> for example, i boosted my wifi signal 40% by setting up my kernel properly
[10:39] <Tyrath_> whoops accidently killed the process :P
[10:39] <sercik> the problem is the firewall.. i'm sure about that.. because if i do firewall stop i can reach 192.168.1.1
[10:39] <Tyrath_> Cann0n: wow that's awesome
[10:39] <Cann0n> and that is just one thing,
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: most new users dont know what half the stuff in menuconfig means or is
[10:39] <Tyrath_> Cann0n: I'm on ACPI 1.1-1ubuntu1
[10:39] <sercik> so the question is hot to tell the firewall to reach 192.168.1.1 from eth0 card
[10:40] <shiki9_> ha any of you guys  use windows to play games but loved to work using  ubuntu
[10:40] <Cann0n> apt-cache are your packages you downloaded
[10:40] <DSX> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m6245fe0b
[10:40] <Tyrath_> Cann0n: but i have no idea what APM version I have cause I can't get that info
[10:40] <Neaai> sercik: if you know what the problem is, what's stopping you from fixing what's amiss ?
[10:40] <Cann0n> and in your /tmp or where ever buntu puts them
[10:40] <russian> good morning
[10:40] <rahmen> Upgrading to 8.10 didn't end well for me.. I don't really know what to do. Error msg on a bluescreen after the login-screen has appeared and disappeared a few times: http://pastebin.com/m1944b559 anyone who can help me?
[10:40] <sercik> Neaai: i'm not good to firewall
[10:40] <Cann0n> tyrathsadly, APM and ACPI are still working on getting hardware to work 100%
[10:40] <Tyrath_> ack!
[10:40] <sercik> apt-cache gives information not
[10:41] <sercik> only about installed package
[10:41] <Tyrath_> it's a wonder why other peope aren't getting these AC problems
[10:41] <Cann0n> my laptop doesn't restore from stand by sleep
[10:41] <Tyrath_> sercik: which may be why APM doesn't show up
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> shiki9_: i game happily in linux
[10:41] <rdx> Any idea how to get jackd/Jack Audio Connection Kit to work on 8.10?
[10:41] <Cann0n> sercik: i dont use apt protocols.
[10:41] <Tyrath_> sercik: isn't it only installed packages that were installed via apt?
[10:41] <bluespuke> hi
[10:41] <Tyrath_> hi
[10:41] <Neaai> sercik: Is it only a ping/icmp problem or overall connectivity problem ?
[10:41] <bluespuke> someone can help me with hotplug?
[10:41] <Cann0n> its hardware specific having errors with default config files
[10:42] <Pulzer_> If I enable XDMCP from the system menu/login, is there any way for me to restrict it to only listen for connections on a specific interface and not all? Would like to only have it listen on the LAN interface and not the WLAN one too
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: if you buy linux friendly hardware you dont have to mess around with kernels or worry if ACPI will like your hardware as it will just work
[10:42] <Tyrath_> anyhow, I've got an exam to study for. I've left a bug report for all my problems on launchpad. hopefully someone comes up with a fix
[10:42] <sercik> Neaai: with firewall service activated i'm not able to access to that ip... neither ping that ip
[10:42] <Tyrath_> thanks for trying to help peeps
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: shop smart, save yourself hassle. dont just buy whats cheap or latest
[10:42] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: ... how long have you been using linux?
[10:42] <Cann0n> its not shopping..
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: I started on redhat 6
[10:42] <Junee_moetz> ffgfffff
[10:42] <shiki9_> ActionParsnip:i play those single player action adventure games like dead space and bioshock which i had  alot of problems trying to get them to run in wine with my ati card
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: then madriva 7
[10:43] <Junee_moetz> aneh
[10:43] <Neaai> sercik: But are you able to 'go past' that ip? Can you use the modem for browsing?
[10:43] <Cann0n> if you default kernel doesn't have an option you need to get something to work, say TI pcmxxx sd/mmc card readers
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> shiki9_: is there a loki installer for them at all?
[10:43] <marekt> hi can you tell me how to increase data rate while connectiong from one ubuntu machine to another using ssh?
[10:43] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: i asked how long, not what version.
[10:43] <Junee_moetz> cannon busyet
[10:43] <iddo> my login keyring doesn't get automatically unlocked on startup... any ideas?
[10:43] <lakitu2> command to reset my preferences? have a black desktop & no icons on desktop or rightclick
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: mid 2006
[10:44] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: it is all ways recommended to compile your own kernel (that is if you know liniux)
[10:44] <bluespuke> ok i simply ask: i'm following a howto ( http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hotplugging_USB_audio_devices_(Howto) ) to hotplug my usb headset, at the end they use a folder called /etc/hotplug/ but i don't have it, should i simply create it or did i miss something (install a package,...)
[10:44] <bluespuke> ?
[10:44] <shiki9_> ActionParsnip: i don't know
[10:44] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: RedHat 6 came out way before 2006
[10:45] <rahmen> I need help with a login-screen crash with this blue-screen text http://pastebin.com/m1944b559 I updated to 8.10 and was hoping it would work....
[10:45] <Cann0n> i've been using slackware since 2001
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: i work in computers dude. theres nothing i hate more than having to mess with my system. I have a gentoo box, a mandriva fileserver and a kubuntu desktop
[10:45] <siccness> you work in computers?
[10:45] <Cann0n> how many  times have you compiled your own kernel, ever?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: thats when i was using mandriva when i got more into it, redhat was more a toy than a real used OS
[10:46] <siccness> how do you find the confined space, ActionParsnip?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: i only use ubuntu as its simple and easy which is all i want
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> siccness: confined space?
[10:46] <Neaai> rahmen: most probably your X is incorrectly configured, but I can't be sure.
[10:46] <siccness> well yeah, you said you worked in computers
[10:46] <siccness> must be tight squeeze in those pipelines
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> siccness: nice :D
[10:46] <m0niker> ?
[10:47] <Cann0n> ah, well if you don't care about performance or efficiency or prestige or pride, you made a fine choice.
[10:47] <m0niker> ouch
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: exactly.  i dont spend hours in front of my pc when i can be out having a laugh with my mates :D
[10:47] <Spatman> some one run wow on ubuntu here?
[10:47] <m0niker> Cann0n has no life
[10:47] <hml> what's the ubuntu way of saying "let me grab the source code for whatever emacs source code was used to build my current emacs package" ?
[10:47] <nmh-j2graw> ActionParsnip: iow - you want to get things done, rather than play with the computer?
[10:47] <magnetron> hml→ apt-get source emacs
[10:48] <siccness> hml: might want to try english first.
[10:48] <Cann0n> it took me maybe 2 hours total to configure and compile a kernel, which fixed how many of my problems?
[10:48] <Spatman> some one run wow on ubuntu here? then pls pm me
[10:48] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: how many times have you recompiled your kernel?
[10:48] <hml> Spatman: world  of warcraft?
[10:48] <rahmen> Neaai: Ok, how do I fix that? Can I boot without graphics? So I just get a terminal?
[10:48] <nmh-j2graw> and how much trial and error to figure out what was optimal?
[10:48] <rww> Spatman: for help getting World of Warcraft working, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[10:48] <Cann0n> m0niker: funny, you're just jealous
[10:48] <magnetron> Spatman→ check the wine appdb and the wowwiki Wine/linux instructions, they are all you need
[10:49] <siccness> Cann0n: jealous of what?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> nmh-j2graw: yeah pretty much. i dont wanna get an extra 2% speed of of my boot by spending a million hours glued to my system
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> !wow | Spatman
[10:49] <Kartagis> i remove 800 mb of files and i verify this with df, however a minute later my free space falls down to 500mb. what is this?
[10:49] <m0niker> Cann0n your just 13
[10:49] <Cann0n> nmh-j2graw: i'll compile it every couple of releases. i just keep a backup of my .config for ever computer i have configured
[10:49] <magnetron> !pm | Spatman
[10:49] <siccness> Kartagis: a filling filesystem by the sounds of things.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> rahmen: press esc at grub loading and select recovery mode, you can drop to root console that way
[10:49] <Kartagis> siccness, by what?
[10:49] <Cann0n> m0niker: just because i know more than you doesn't mean you have be a bully.
[10:50] <siccness> Kartagis: that's like asking a blind person what colour the wall is
[10:50] <rww> Spatman: <answering PM in channel> No, I quit a while back, because I decided it sucks.
[10:50] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: you are asking for what you are getting.  go troll elsewhere
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> DSX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589640
[10:50] <Kartagis> siccness, I don't write anything or so
[10:50] <Cann0n> nmh-j2graw: i didn't call people names and such no did i?
[10:50] <rww> Spatman: the page I linked, though, worked great to set it up when I did play.
[10:50] <siccness> Kartagis: is it still filling? if so, lsof might be your best bet
[10:51] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: you're actions speak for themselves.
[10:51] <siccness> fuser
[10:51] <Cann0n> nmh-j2graw: i don't understand your comments. they seem to contradict one another. :P
[10:51] <siccness> Cann0n: funny that, so do yours.
[10:52] <nmh-j2graw> Cann0n: you must be doing a good job of trolling
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> can we keep this ontopic
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> instead of mudslinging
[10:52] <siccness> ActionParsnip: Sorry Jesus.
[10:52] <rww> Quick bickering, everyone :P
[10:52] <Cann0n> yeah, im talking about linux the entire time i was here, not call people names.
[10:52] <rww> Quit *
[10:52] <Cann0n> anyways
[10:52] <siccness> No, you've talked about how crap Ubuntu is compared to your beloved Slackware
[10:52] <Cann0n> compiling a kernel is highly recommended if you have hardware problems, (after the correct research of course)
[10:53] <nmh-j2graw> it is offtopic to moan and whine about ubuntu in #ubuntu
[10:53] <siccness> No, if you have hardware problems, the best thing to do is fix the hardware fault
[10:53] <siccness> not compile a damn kernel
[10:53] <nmh-j2graw> ESPECIALLY when you don't use it
[10:53] <Cann0n> siccness: how about we all get banned because no one here seems to be able to drop the nagging.... along with nmh-j2graw
[10:53] <nmh-j2graw> it would be worth it to keep you out.
[10:53] <Cann0n> siccness: dont curse.
[10:53] <siccness> curse?
[10:54] <rww> Anyone have any problems they need fixing? Maybe your shiny problem will distract these people from their arguing :D
[10:54] <siccness> rww: word
[10:54] <siccness> anyone with a problem
[10:54] <siccness> the big chief is here to fix all the problems
[10:54] <nmh-j2graw> I am still trying to get dialog windows to pop up above preexisting windows (rather than below)
[10:54] <nmh-j2graw> for those who have good ideas...
[10:54] <siccness> nmh-j2graw: too hard, next :)
[10:54] <rahmen> Can I get the ubuntu update log or something? Is it saved on my comp? (I updated from 8.04 to 8.10)
[10:54] <nmh-j2graw> haha
[10:55] <siccness> nmh-j2graw: what DE?
[10:55] <siccness> or better yet, what WM?
[10:55] <Cann0n> what kernel does the ubuntu-current use?
[10:55] <nmh-j2graw> mostly ubuntu 8.04 default (gnome)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> rww: i have kernel 2.6.39 beta alph pre release 2 and im trying to install amarok xp but i keep getting core dumps when i mailmerge the bios over usb to my bluetooth mouse. Ive tried the -y214 patch but it seems slow then abort giving me the old 404 error which ive read means the microsoft need some money but im unemploed and need a workaround, can you help please
[10:55] <nmh-j2graw> I want to say metacity, but I am not sure
[10:55] <DSX> ActionParsnip: Nothing there, oh well.
[10:56] <siccness> yeah what WM is that, nmh-j2graw?
[10:56] <siccness> sorry, i dont know much about ubuntu and it's defaults
[10:56] <nmh-j2graw> siccness: me too...
[10:56] <rww> rahmen: check in /var/log, especially /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/installer. I believe there's a log somewhere around there, but I forget where exactly it is
[10:56] <Cann0n> ActionParsnip: maybe because you are using a pre-release, when tend to be unstable?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[10:56] <rww> Cann0n: 2.6.27-7-generic
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> made me laugh
[10:57] <siccness> nmh-j2graw: done a patch update on metacity?
[10:57] <rww> ActionParsnip: random words hurt my brain :P
[10:57] <Cann0n> can i get a .config for the default kernel?
[10:57] <Cann0n> i wanna check it out
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> rww: we used to have people like that come inow hee i used to work and talk like that. classic
[10:57] <esperegu> how to check if I have amd64 version currently or not?
[10:57] <Dedi> niceee, upgraded and no wlan there anymore.. and no network manager running.. fine
[10:57] <nmh-j2graw> siccness: not that I know of
[10:57] <rahmen> rww: thnx.. you think there are any clues in that log of what's wrong with my upgrade?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Cann0n: www.kernel.org should have one
[10:58] <siccness> nmh-j2graw: someone has suggested this "under gen options, change the level of focus stealing to low"
[10:58] <Kate28f> Hello, i would like to know what is the easy way to duplicate Ubuntu to new computer (including the grub.. ) ?
[10:58] <siccness> but ill be damned if i know what "gen" options is
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: ou could dd the disk to another disk
[10:59] <rww> rahmen: not sure, I'm not too experienced with upgrades (usually just reinstall)
[10:59] <nmh-j2graw> siccness: hey, what a neat idea - I know I saw that option somewhere...
[10:59] <Kate28f> ActionParsnip: does dd have gui ?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: it uses terminal
[10:59] <siccness> nmh-j2graw: that could well be the key
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: dd if=/dev/<source drive> of=/dev/<destination drive>
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[11:00] <Kate28f> ActionParsnip: nice :) , how i can find out my source drive path and my destination path ? (/dev/???)
[11:00] <iddo> my login keyring doesn't get automatically unlocked on startup... any ideas? i tried to reinstall stuff like libpam-gnome-keyring but nothing seems to help
[11:00] <Dedi> i wait for the day something just work out how it should
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: sudo fdisk -l
[11:00] <milos_> Can someone help me with grep. I need to find lines in file that just contain one '?' character.  grep "?\{1\}" file doesn't work.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: as always with big disk actions, rerun your backup to make sure you wont lose user data
[11:01] <BuFF> Hello
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> hi BuFF
[11:01] <Cann0n> milos_: google.com
[11:01] <BuFF> Hi ActionParship
[11:02] <elektron1k> hello
[11:02] <Kate28f> ActionParsnip: when i typed : sudo fdisk -l : i get 3 results : /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2/ /dev/sda3 (i have only one hdd inside ) ?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> milos_: you could ask in gentoo
[11:02] <rhalff> hi I run a intel quad core, it is ok to install the adm64 server version of interprid right ? or should I stick to 32bit ?
[11:02] <zero0ne> hi there
[11:02] <rww> milos_: does changing the ? to \? work, perchance?
[11:02] <Kartagis> how can i see what is filling up my fs so quickly?
[11:02] <elektron1k> hello
[11:02] <milos_> Cann0n, yes, I tried that first. ActionParsnip :)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: yes, the numbers are  partitions, you can dd the partitions to another drive
[11:02] <milos_> rww, no
[11:02] <Dedi> how to get the networkmanager applet back? (the one to set up wlan)
[11:03] <rww> rhalff: assuming it's a core 2, amd64 will work fine. I'm running it right now on a Q6600.
[11:03] <elektron1k> ïèäàðû áëÿ
[11:03] <esperegu> how can I see if I currently have amd64 installed or not?
[11:03] <elektron1k> ýé ãàíäîíû
[11:03] <rhalff> rww, it's quad core
[11:03] <elektron1k> RUSSIA RULEZZZZ
[11:03] <balle_> hey all, i think i have a problem with my usb ports, when i stick in an external hard drive i can't get it to mount automatically
[11:03] <bimberi> Dedi: 'nm-applet --sm-disable'
[11:03] <balle_> can anyone help solve this ?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: uname -a
[11:03] <elektron1k> RUSSIA RULEZZZZ
[11:03] <elektron1k> RUSSIA RULEZZZZ
[11:03] <FloodBot1> elektron1k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <rhalff> rww, which shouldn't really matter probably :)
[11:03] <Kate28f> ActionParsnip: sda1 = linux , sda2 = extended , sda 3 = linux swap / Solaris , so when i will use dd if=/dev/<source drive> of=/dev/sda1 its will copy all the partitions to the new disk ?
[11:04] <rww> esperegu: uname -a and look for "x86_64"
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: i686 == 32bit , x86_64 = 64bit
[11:04] <jaypur> whats the name of the music file of the ubuntu entrance song?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: if you only have those partitions, you dont have another disk in the system to clone to
[11:04] <Dedi> bimberi: thank you very much
[11:04] <bimberi> Dedi: yw :)
[11:04] <esperegu> ActionParsnip / rww: than I have 32bit. How can I upgrade to 64?
[11:05] <rww> rhalff: rhalff: wait, nvm, Intel Core didn't have quads, so yeah, you have an Intel Core 2 Quad. So yeah, amd64 would work fine.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: for cpuinfo i'd use: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:05] <DIFH-iceroot> esperegu: reinstall, if you mean the os
[11:05] <j0nte> Do anyone know whats wrong with usb2.0 and ubuntu. I only get really low speed on my USB devices
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> j0nte: are you fully updated?
[11:05] <DIFH-iceroot> esperegu: you cant upgrade from 32bit linux to 64 bit linux
[11:05] <esperegu> DIFH-iceroot: it's not possible to upgrade?
[11:05] <esperegu> aha
[11:05] <esperegu> ok
[11:05] <esperegu> 2 bad
[11:05] <Dedi> grr nm-applet got worse? have to enter key again.. and it doesnt take any hex keys anymore...
[11:05] <j0nte> ActionParsnip: I got hardy version, besides from that yes
[11:06] <Cann0n> milos_: should be right
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> Dedi: i've not had to re-enter my key since i installed.....
[11:06] <belim> does anyone in here use the Intel X4500HD? I am after a better driver for it to get it fully functional. I think there is one but cant find it. I am running a std install of kubuntu 8.10 on a Dell E6500 laptop. As far as I can tell I am currently using intel_agp. I dont have the best gfx for the KDE4 compiz effects, and if I plug in an external LCD display to either vga or dvi using the docking station it is very flakey! anyone got any ideas?
[11:06] <rhalff> rww, ok Intel Core 2 Quad, what's in a name :)
[11:06] <Kate28f> !dd
[11:06] <bimberi> jaypur: /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[11:06] <rww> rhalff: Intel Core is 32bit, Intel Core 2 is 64bit :P
[11:06] <nmh-j2graw> siccness: well, for my test case of one window, it seems to have done the trick
[11:06] <j0nte> !usb2.0
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> j0nte: has it always been slow?
[11:06] <rhalff> rww, oh, ok big deal then :d
[11:06] <j0nte> ActionParsnip: yeah. Got network cards in usb ports
[11:06] <nmh-j2graw> great suggestion, thanks!
[11:07] <j0nte> Not when I ran windows tho ActionParsnip only ubuntu
[11:07] <milos_> Cann0n, yes. I tried with other characters also but nothing.
[11:07] <Dedi> IndyGunFreak: seems i have to, for every network
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> j0nte: maybe you need some funky usb options for your usb
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> Dedi: weird... i entered mine when i installed, not since
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> j0nte: lspci | grep -i usb
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> j0nte: what us controllers do you have?
[11:07] <j0nte> sec
[11:08] <Kate28f> ActionParsnip: do you know about other application like dd that's have graphic interface ?
[11:08] <Seaboy> jussi01 : still have the problem
[11:08] <siccness> nmh-j2graw: so...what do you think of me now? :)
[11:08] <nmh-j2graw> siccness: before: helpful, now: helpful-er ?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: no idea, sorry. even if you found one you still need the extra drive to copy to
[11:08] <siccness> high five to that shit, nmh-j2graw :)
[11:08] <siccness> champion you are mate.
[11:08] <ast> ﻿belim? no xcreens found error?
[11:08] <nmh-j2graw> haha
[11:08] <balle_> i have a problem connecting anything to my usb ports and i think theyre not activated or something, can anybody help me with this?
[11:08] <siccness> need more legends like yourself in this channel
[11:08] <burkesbythebay> I am getting an Errot 17 on boot 1ith 8.10 just after grub.  Has anyone had this error and know how to fix it.  I have a Sata hard disk.
[11:09] <ast> if you have that probem PM me
[11:09] <siccness> burkesbythebay: simple
[11:09] <siccness> google "Error 17 GRUB" on google
[11:09] <_2> to google is now a verb ?
[11:10] <siccness> dunno
[11:10] <burkesbythebay> I have and most of the threads I have have found don't fix the problem
[11:10] <siccness> im half drunk
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> _2: is in the UK
[11:10] <siccness> so my sentences arent gonna make a lot of sense
[11:10] <belim> ast: I can run fine, at a good res too 1920x1200, on the internal screen. but plugging in an external monitor is very glitchy, screen flickers every 5-10 secs. and the kde compiz effects arent brilliant either.
[11:11] <nmh-j2graw> burkesbythebay: what have you tried? (short list)
[11:11] <Cann0n> well im out
[11:11] <siccness> burkesbythebay: im confuse, just seems like a basic mbr issue
[11:11] <balle_> i have a problem connecting anything to my usb ports and i think theyre not activated or something, can anybody help me with this?
[11:11] <Seaboy> can anyone see my xorg.0.log file to find my problem, I have a white screen after logging in : http://paste.ubuntu.com/67858/
[11:11] <anita_> Hi I am instaling ubuntu holah 8.10 I am creating the partitions. I want to install linux in c: and my user (anita) in d: how I do that   txh
[11:11] <siccness> balle_: what device you trying to connect?
[11:11] <Enissay> ﻿how can i activate the " wave, burn, airplane, ..." compiz animations?? the animation plugins is activated, but it's not working!!!
[11:12] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: hvae you used compiz-config-manager ?
[11:12] <balle_> siccness: an external harddrive and a usb mouse
[11:12] <siccness> balle_: ok, disconnect the external hdd for the moment
[11:12] <siccness> then do this
[11:12] <siccness> connect it, type: sudo dmesg | tail
[11:12] <siccness> whats the output, paste that to pastebin
[11:12] <msshams> how can i install .oxt extension files for ooo?
[11:12] <belim> anyone?
[11:13] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: of course
[11:13] <_2> connect it sleep 5;dmesg | tail
[11:13] <nmh-j2graw> Seaboy: white? not white and black pixel pattern?
[11:13] <siccness> heh
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> balle_: sudo modprobe -a ehci_hcd
[11:13] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: wave is wavy windows, yes?
[11:13] <siccness> ActionParsnip: dont jump ahead :)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> siccness: best way ;)
[11:14] <siccness> heh
[11:14] <siccness> not necessarily
[11:14] <siccness> this is good for the young kid
[11:14] <siccness> good to learn basic troubleshooting
[11:14] <balle_> siccness: http://pastebin.com/m460fa82e there
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> siccness: deal
[11:14] <siccness> its like that stupid old saying
[11:14] <siccness> feed a man for a day, or teach him how to fish
[11:14] <siccness> or whatever it is
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> give a man a fish and he eats for a day, give him a rod and he'll sell it, or trade it for a fish
[11:15] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Animation
[11:15] <siccness> ActionParsnip: hahahaha
[11:15] <_2> ActionParsnip lol
[11:15] <Seaboy> ﻿nmh-j2graw: just white, and I cans see mouse pointer, and if there is a messege like software upadate notification, I can see it too, but nothing else
[11:15] <burkesbythebay> siccness:  i think the hard disk is faulty as it clicks every now and then.  bit alot of the threads point to grub or mbr being the problem
[11:15] <nmh-j2graw> feed a man a fish and he will eat for a day
[11:15] <nmh-j2graw> teach him how to fish and he will have food for the rest of his life
[11:15] <nmh-j2graw> (of course a poisoned fish will do that too, but in a different way)
[11:16] <jussi01> !ot
[11:16] <siccness> burkesbythebay: sure but that doesnt explain why usb doesnt work
[11:16] <_2> nmh-j2graw and poisoned fish are easier.
[11:17] <nmh-j2graw> _2: yes, but here we are tyring to be helpful.
[11:17] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: do you have other effects working?
[11:17] <siccness> Bear Grylls will eat a parasyted fish with his teeth
[11:17] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: yes
[11:17] <burkesbythebay> siccness what's usb got to do with it im running a sata hard disk
[11:17] <nmh-j2graw> Seaboy: if you type a bunch of text, do you see any of it?
[11:17] <siccness> i thought this was regarding usb? lol
[11:18] <balle_> siccness: i was the usb dude
[11:18] <siccness> lol
[11:18] <siccness> holy bajebus
[11:18] <siccness> im so confused!
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade > j0nte
[11:19] <burkesbythebay> i have found a few more threads am going to test the suggested fixes
[11:19] <burkesbythebay> bye
[11:19] <siccness> thankfully he left, i coulda had him removing all kinds of devices!
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> haha
[11:19] <siccness> balle_: ok, so what's the deal with your issue again? this was USB devices not working?
[11:20] <Seaboy> ﻿Seaboy: no
[11:20] <stevej678> wifi compaq c700 ran sudo ndisgtk, added driver net5211.inf, system hangs, tried this twice
[11:20] <Seaboy> ﻿Seaboy: even alt+F2 doesn,t work
[11:20] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: the airplane/fire effects were extra plugins you added, yes?  assuming yes, how did you add them? (via aptitude? via source?)
[11:20]  * _2 thinks siccness has googled to many 'shnaps'
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> stevej678: try using the properndiswrapper app
[11:20] <Seaboy> ﻿nmh-j2graw: no, even alt+F2 doesn't work
[11:20] <balle_> siccness: yea my harddrive can't be mounted and the mouse i'm trying to plug in can work but only in small flashes and it is very slow, the pastebin for the usb devices http://pastebin.com/m460fa82e
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> stevej678: sudo ndiswrapper -i <inf file>
[11:21] <siccness> balle_: ahh  yes, you're getting a stack of USB errors in dmesg
[11:21] <nmh-j2graw> Seaboy: can you get out of X with ctrl-alt-backspace?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> stevej678: then check with sudo ndiswrapper -l
[11:21] <balle_> siccness: yea, and i don't really know why sadly
[11:21] <siccness> balle_: this is certainly unusual
[11:21] <siccness> ive never seen this before
[11:21] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: no, i added nothing... how can i do that?
[11:21] <siccness> this looks like fun
[11:21] <balle_> siccness: i am on a labtop if it means anything
[11:22] <siccness> balle_: what laptop? what OS and what version of the OS?
[11:22] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: ooc, did you see them online and are now trying to get them?
[11:22] <Seaboy> ﻿nmh-j2graw: yes
[11:22] <nmh-j2graw> Seaboy: oic, sorry - I thought you were in a different situation
[11:22] <balle_> siccness: a danish brand a Zepto znote 6515WD and running ubuntu hardy heron and xp sp3 i think on another bootable partition
[11:23] <siccness> balle_: does this issue occur under Windows as well?
[11:23] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: right
[11:23] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: are you using compiz-fusion and not compiz (what is installed by default) ?
[11:23] <Seaboy> ﻿nmh-j2graw: thanks anyway
[11:23] <balle_> siccness: not at all
[11:23] <siccness> sweet, that rules out hardware
[11:23] <nmh-j2graw> Seaboy: sorry, I am about out of ideas on what you can do
[11:24] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: i think i'm using compiz 0.7.6
[11:24] <balle_> siccness: yea i have tested it with a lot of things and in all usb ports, everything works on xp and nothing on ubuntu sadly
[11:24] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: you may have to switch to compiz-fusion to be able to get those effects (I have only used compiz)
[11:24] <spi343> hi all, does the lastest kernel 2.6.27-7 have issues with prism 2.5 cards ? i have a Senao 2511 NL pcmcia card and it works flawlessly with older kernels, like 2.6.24-19. Things went wrong after update from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 , then i stopped the NetworkManager service and tried to connect the usual way with iwconfig, wavemon says it connects to the AP but it doesn't receive an IP with dhclient, any ideas?
[11:25] <siccness> balle_: do this
[11:25] <siccness> sudo rmmod ehci-hcd
[11:25] <_2> balle_ i have seen that usb error before   just don't recall what or why
[11:25] <_2> it "may" be a bug.
[11:25] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: what are you running? 8.10? 8.04? 7.x?
[11:26] <balle_> siccness: done and it appears as if nothing happened
[11:26] <siccness> _2: im thinkin the same thing
[11:26] <siccness> balle_ reconnect the devices
[11:26] <siccness> sudo dmesg | tail
[11:26] <siccness> tell me if you get the same errors
[11:26] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: i've just to install it....(hardy)
[11:26] <Kate28f> Hello, i would like to know which file system is better for Ubuntu installation : ext2 or ext3 ?
[11:26] <_2> !bug > me
[11:27] <Skry^> Kate28f, ext3
[11:27] <Kate28f> thanks
[11:27] <Skry^> np
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: ext3 is ext2 with a journal
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Kate28f: use ext2 for memory sticks to prolong life but internal drives should be formatted ext3
[11:27] <m0niker> use ext3
[11:27] <balle_> siccness: no, it goes up to 14 now, previously it was only up to 10..
[11:28] <siccness> yay!!!
[11:28] <lianimator> Where can I find information about Linux security? Particularly, is Linux not any more secure than windows? People argue that it's the small user base of Linux, and that Linux is mostly based on scripts and no one is there to check every line of code, whereas Windows code is checked when compiling.. any word on this?
[11:28] <siccness> we're getting no where!
[11:28] <m0niker> Kate28f - your using a drive? use ext3
[11:28] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: can you pastebin the output of 'aptitude search compiz', please
[11:28] <m0niker> lianimator - pm me
[11:29] <balle_> siccness: should i pastebin it for you to see mayhaps?
[11:29] <pisse> How do I setup my sound? It's not working at all after the update to 8.10 (from 8.04) but when I change kernel version in grub on boot it works.. is there any other settings than System->Preferences->Sound?
[11:29] <Skry^> is flash working like it should for 64-bit users? i get random "freezes" :S
[11:29] <Ben_Cs> hello
[11:29] <Ben_Cs> i don't know what changes were made but just editing xorg.conf doesn't add another keboard layout. please help
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: its as secure as you make it, just like windows. just keep off root as much as possible and watch how you go. If you are user then even if you get compromised they cant achieve much
[11:29] <siccness> balle_: sure then try: sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[11:29] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: it's working now http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd/blog/how-to-use-compiz-config-settings-manager-part-1-under-construction
[11:29] <inventor> ept. fix problem is kqemu, setup kqemu-source and modprobe kqemu
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Skry^: run flashplayer-nonfree through nspluginwrapper, works a treat
[11:30] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: thanks anyway
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Ben_Cs: you need to restart x
[11:30] <Enissay> u:)
[11:30] <m0niker> lianimator - Pm me and ill give you a few pointers for research
[11:30] <balle_> siccness: sudo modprobe thing did nothing at all...
[11:30] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: congradulations!
[11:30] <Ben_Cs> ActionParsnip: i logged aout and in and nothing happened
[11:30] <Skry^> ActionParsnip, should it be like that by default?
[11:30] <siccness> balle_: then do an lsmod | grep -i ehci_hcd
[11:30] <spi343> can somebody help me fix my wireless in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[11:30] <dig> Enissay: use compiz?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Skry^: very little is default
[11:30] <siccness> if you get no output then it's a good thing :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Ben_Cs: press ctrl+alt+backspace AFTER saving any docs
[11:31] <justnick> i wanna know why i couldn't use sudo apt-get upgarde after i install ubuntu 8.10 on my flash drive?
[11:31] <Dedi> spi343: "nm-applet --disable-sm"
[11:31] <balle_> siccness: okay, yay for good things no output et all
[11:31] <siccness> heh
[11:31] <siccness> balle_: try reconnecting the devices
[11:31] <Ben_Cs> ActionParsnip: just read about needing to use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup             instead?
[11:31] <pisse> How do I setup my sound? It doesn't work at all after the update to 8.10
[11:32] <siccness> and then do the: sudo dmesg | tail again
[11:32] <balle_> siccness: done
[11:32] <Dedi> Skry^: dont get freezes (but flash on 64bit just runs bad)
[11:32] <Skry^> ActionParsnip, well, it works for a while, and if it does, sometimes reloading page makes it work, most of the time i need to restart firefox, and i think i'm using it through nspluginwrapper.
[11:32] <jaol> about booting from a usb stick- I installed ubuntu 8.10 on a usb stick using the program included in the love-cd, but the pc dfoesn't boot from it. i tried all boot orders in the bios. there is usb-zip, usb-hdd and usb-fdd as an option in the bios.
[11:32] <spi343> Dedi, what is suppose to do --disable-sm ?
[11:32] <jaol> *live-cd sorry
[11:32] <Ben_Cs> hal is "in charge" of input device?!
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Skry^: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplayer-nonfree; nspluginwrapper -i  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[11:32] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: but what the difference between compiz and compiz fucion?
[11:32] <siccness> balle_: work or not?
[11:32] <balle_> siccness: http://pastebin.com/m2e06666d
[11:32] <Dedi> spi343: dont know, its the default, but i just did it without the parm
[11:33] <balle_> siccness: and no sadly, no work
[11:33] <siccness> fsckkkkk
[11:33] <lianimator> ActionParsnip: let's say Firefox had an open loophole for hackers, would that make the Linux OS insecure?
[11:33] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: 'Compiz is one of the first compositing window managers for the X Window System that uses 3D graphics hardware to create fast compositing desktop effects for window management' (wikipedia)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: sure, but the firefox guys would be aware due to the amount of devs working on it
[11:34] <siccness> balle_: this HAS to be a bug
[11:34] <zackeroo> why can't I see anyone on the network ... not even myself ...?
[11:34] <justnick> i wanna know why i couldn't use sudo apt-get upgarde after i install ubuntu 8.10 on my flash drive?
[11:34] <m0niker> as far as buffer overflow?
[11:34] <zackeroo> I am using Ubuntu Hardy here
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: no OS is totally secure and you will never find one that is, unless it has no network interfaces
[11:34] <Dedi> lianimator, ActionParsnip: not that much, it can only access files which the current user has rights to...
[11:34] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: beryl is a fork of compiz, and compiz-fusion is a merging of compiz and beryl (supposed to be the best of both)
[11:34] <spi343> Dedi, well the thing is the applet does start by itself, no problem there but the it says the wireless device is unmanaged
[11:34] <m0niker> to get high priv would be dependent on the os
[11:34] <alexander_27__> n.de
[11:34] <siccness> balle_: do this, cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:34] <siccness> and paste the output to pastebin
[11:35] <balle_> siccness: might be yea, there is also a lot of other crazy shit going on, my shutdown button has dissapeared so i have to use sudo shutdown - h now and stuff like that
[11:35] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: does that make sense?
[11:35] <siccness> balle_: heh
[11:35] <Dedi> spi343: so you dont get a list of wireless networks with a left click on it (left!)
[11:35] <siccness> better than what I do, "press pwr button"
[11:35] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: and if i want now to install compiz-fusion, do i have to uninstall compiz first?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: if you run firefox as root and are compromised they will have a full run of your system as they will inherit root permissions
[11:35] <spi343> Dedi, nope, it says wireless unmanaged
[11:36] <balle_> siccness: hehe yea but not want optimal either i guess, hey do you want a pastebin of that or something?
[11:36] <spi343> Dedi, i tried editing the connectiongs , and adding my wireless AP but nothing
[11:36] <siccness> balle_: yeah if you could mate
[11:36] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: I am not sure, I would expect aptitude should deal with it for you.
[11:36] <Dedi> spi343: try: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed (may do sudo ifconfig wlan0 down before and up after)
[11:36] <Enissay> nmh-j2graw: ﻿Enissay: does that make sense?==>What?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: thats why there is no root pass by default in ubuntu, saves people from themselves coming from windows mentality and logging as the the most senior account to run daily tasks and browse the web
[11:36] <justnick> i wanna know why i couldn't use sudo apt-get upgarde after i install ubuntu 8.10 on my flash drive?
[11:36] <nmh-j2graw> Enissay: did the description of th edifferences make sense
[11:36] <balle_> siccnes: http://pastebin.com/m3ecca177 there ya go
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: those sorts of people deserve all they get
[11:37] <siccness> balle: if my next solution doesnt work, then only thing I can think of is: backup your data, do a system update. If that doesnt work, then install the latest version of Ubuntu and see what happens
[11:37] <ghostlines> i have 2 identical fstab entries and i can write on one ntfs partition but can't on the other
[11:37] <lianimator> Dedi: speaking of rights, I have the error that says $HOME/.dmrc file is ignored.. etc. the home folder should have 664 rights or something. someone told me to run sudo chmod -R 664 /home then I couldn't access my home. I did sudo chmod -R 777 /home then I changed the permissions through nautilus. Is it okay now?
[11:37] <ikonia> ghostlines check the status of that disk when you mount int manually
[11:37] <spi343> Dedi, did that, also tried disableing the service with sudo invoke-rc.d NetworkManager stop, then tried to connect to my wireless AP with iwconfig and it does connect but then it hangs when receiving the ip with dhclient
[11:37] <siccness> balle: ok, my next solution doesnt apply here. So i can only think of backup data+system update, if that doesnt fix the issue, then I'd just install the latest ubuntu
[11:38] <xeiter> is there a way to run a console command (ffmpeg video encoding in my case) so it only uses a set amount (in percentage) of CPU resources  ?
[11:38] <lianimator> ActionParsnip: I use root only if I have to. the default is administrator in Windows.. Now I get it.
[11:38] <balle_> siccness: i am pretty sure this is the latest version but i'll try to run the update thing again and see what happens, thx for the help man
[11:38] <siccness> balle_: what version you got?
[11:38] <Dedi> lianimator: then somebody told you a bad thing :) you should not perform that command on your whole home dir, since it needs some special rights set for specific folders. and more, you should never have a number for the "others" since every one can read your homefolder now
[11:38] <siccness> xeiter: you can limit resources
[11:39] <xeiter> siccness, how can I do that ?
[11:39] <spi343> Dedi, the weird part it it does this only with the latest 2.6.27-7 kernel that comes with ubuntu 8.10 , with older kernels it works flawlessly
[11:39] <nmh-j2graw> xeiter: would you be satisfied with giving it the resources after other processes? (man nice renice)
[11:39] <_2> balle_ is this your issue?  http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8444
[11:39] <pisse> How do I setup the sound? Something isn't right.. with the older kernel it works..
[11:39] <spi343> Dedi, and google has no idea about what might be going on..
[11:39] <balle_> siccness: 8.10 i think is there somewhere i can check that?
[11:39] <rsa_md5> what's the command to enable core dump?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> balle_: lsb_release -a
[11:40] <xeiter> nmh-j2graw, yeah willprobably do  thank you  i will check it out
[11:40] <Dedi> spi343: ouff, i would take an older kernel until it runs with the new one. there has been some changes, may a bad one for you. as alternative i would try a howto to connect wlan from console guide, but may not help
[11:40] <nmh-j2graw> xeiter: good luck
[11:40] <xukun> is it possible to see if my sound card supports digital audio like 5.1 or 7.1?
[11:41] <balle_> siccness: it's 8.04
[11:41] <siccness> xeiter: ulimit
[11:41] <Dedi> spi343: im not a wlan specialist, just had problems before too and thought may you have the same problem (but seems not :))
[11:41] <balle_> gnomefreak: thx
[11:41] <siccness> balle_: honestly, it's got bug written all over it, heh :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: thats why you get viri, if yu make a restricted user you wil get less grief
[11:41] <balle_> _2: no it's not a usb stick but an external harddrive, will check it out though thx
[11:41] <siccness> but i cant exactly prove it
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: some apps need weird write accesses to system sensitive places in windows which is completely stupid
[11:41] <siccness> i would do a patch update on your system
[11:41] <siccness> first and foremost
[11:42] <xeiter> siccness, thank you will check out
[11:42] <siccness> and hopefully theres a bugfix in there
[11:42] <spi343> Dedi, yeah, i tried , stopped X, went to console, and did the connection stuff with ifconfig and iwconfig, then it hangs with dhclient , no ip is received
[11:42] <spi343> Dedi, i mean, went to console then stopped X :)
[11:42] <balle_> siccness: but can't i just do an update to 8.10 or what?
[11:42] <Dedi> spi343: wired network works with dhclient?
[11:42] <siccness> balle_: you can
[11:42] <spi343> Dedi, i can't check that
[11:42] <siccness> but here's my Plan of attack
[11:43] <funflo512_> Hello, I have a few problems with my WiFi, I use nidsgtk
[11:43] <spi343> Dedi, i only have wireless
[11:43] <justnick> i wanna know why i couldn't use sudo apt-get upgarde after i install ubuntu 8.10 on my flash drive?
[11:43] <_2> balle_ i didn't ask if it was your device, i asked if it was the bug you were having.  problems with.
[11:43] <siccness> back up data (just for the sake of it), patch update on current OS, if that fails
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> funflo512_: tried it using just ndiswrapper?
[11:43] <siccness> look at upgrading to 8.10
[11:43] <siccness> _2 looks different
[11:43] <Dedi> spi343: thats bad :) i would suggest you to use an older kernel, could be a driver problem
[11:43] <Dedi> or google the whole day :D
[11:43] <_2> xukun did anyone answer you ?     lshw -C multimedia      should show it.
[11:44] <Dedi> but that will be more effective in some weeks when there are more posts out with intrepid problems
[11:44] <siccness> google isnt something you do an entire day
[11:44] <justnick> i wanna know why i couldn't use sudo apt-get upgarde after i install ubuntu 8.10 on my flash drive?
[11:44] <spi343> Dedi, yeah, to verify that i dowloaded the hostap-driver and it doesn't compile with 2.6.27-7, says something about wireless extensions not enabled in the kernel
[11:44] <siccness> if a solution doesnt return on the first page of your first google search
[11:44] <siccness> then there's no solution
[11:44] <Dedi> siccness: that bad google got, it sometimes is
[11:44] <balle_> siccness: thx i'll try that
[11:44] <justnick> i wanna know why i couldn't use sudo apt-get upgarde after i install ubuntu 8.10 on my flash drive?
[11:44] <Dedi> spi343: strange, my wireless works with that kernel
[11:44] <msandbu> hi, can anyone tell me of an alternativ irc client, besides irssi? :)
[11:44] <siccness> justnick: because upgarde isn't a valid option
[11:45] <siccness> upgrade is though :P
[11:45] <siccness> msandbu: if its not irssi, its not worth using
[11:45] <balle_> _2 yea it sounds a bit like that, but maybe it's solved with 8.10, i'll try to check it and thx btw
[11:45] <siccness> but: xchat, bitchx
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> msandbu: pidgin, xchat, bitchx
[11:45] <justnick> siccness: not availid?
[11:45] <siccness> balle_: keep us updated on this
[11:45] <_2> siccness then there is never any solution to any of my issues. because google never returns a solution on the first page of my first search  ;/
[11:45] <msandbu> siccness: valid point, but it is for testing purposes.
[11:45] <siccness> i'd hate to lose a battle against a freaking usb device
[11:45] <balle_> siccness: will do
[11:46] <siccness> _2: you cant google too well then :)
[11:46] <justnick> siccness: there is no solution
[11:46] <_2> balle_ k.
[11:46] <Dedi> siccness: then tell us how :>
[11:46] <spi343> Dedi, can that be from a bad update? i did an distro-upgrade from 8.04, and had a few errors along the way, but were about insignificant stuff
[11:46] <_2> siccness never said i could.
[11:46] <siccness> Dedi: the key to google is to use it like it's a moron
[11:47] <VBNewUser> argh
[11:47]  * _2 waits for the rest of this lesson,  it might do for a chuckle
[11:47] <Dedi> spi343: cant tell, my upgrade went fine except nm applet dissapeared and keys lost, and gdm not starting itself
[11:48] <spi343> Dedi, i guess they rushed out ubuntu 8.10 ..
[11:48] <xukun> _2, thanks m8
[11:48] <Dedi> siccness: may you just have luck, i have to change keywords over and over until it fits
[11:48] <_2> xukun welcome.
[11:49] <Dedi> spi343: thats the bad thing with hardtimed releases (same was with 8.04, thats why there is a 8.04.1)
[11:49] <firetech> What can be the cause if X11 doesn't regain keyboard control (it's left in the console) after suspend/hibernate? This ONLY seems to happen if the computer is booted on battery (laptop).
[11:49] <_2> xukun ffr lshw is a very nice hardware info tool/app
[11:50] <siccness> You know what's even better? cat /proc/*
[11:50] <Dedi> firetech: i dont know but you could check usb power safe things
[11:50] <_2> siccness no.   that's like google search .*
[11:50] <justnick> siccness:is the usb ubuntu version not accept any installations of any thing
[11:50] <firetech> Dedi: it only affects the internal laptop keyboard, not external USB ones...
[11:51] <xukun> _2, but that does not show if this card does support digital sound or it not clear to me
[11:51] <siccness> justnick: that's interesting
[11:51] <Dedi> firetech: oh strange, i'll check that right now on my laptop
[11:51] <trupheenix> hi i'm trying to compile the sample WebkitGtk application called GtkLauncher. This was my compile command gcc -g -I /usr/include/Webkit gtklaunch.c -o gtklaunch  `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` -lWebKitGtk and I got an error gtklaunch.c:28:40: error: /usr/include/Webkit/webkit.h: No such file or directory even though i have Webkit development packages installed on my system. Help anyone?
[11:51] <justnick> siccness:no i thing it is looked while i use administrator rights
[11:52] <firetech> Dedi: thanks :)
[11:52] <balle_> sicness: running the 8.10 upgrade now
[11:52] <spi343> Dedi, i'll remove networkmanager and try wicd, some say it works :) thanks
[11:52] <AnRkey_> is there something wrong with freenode?
[11:52] <AnRkey_> soooo slow
[11:52] <_2> xukun in the capabilities: line ?    hmmm it should list all it's capabilities
[11:52] <firetech> Dedi: btw, it happens both with uswsusp and the default kernel suspend.
[11:52] <AnRkey_> i have 30 second lags here
[11:53] <ziroday> Hi, what happened to kooka in intrepid
[11:53] <siccness> AnR: should i sent out the TCP party or?
[11:53] <xukun> _2, this what it says: so maybe it does not support: capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
[11:53] <siccness> s/sent/send/
[11:53] <Dedi> firetech: could take some time, i just see i dont have any suspend/hibernate option anymore :D
[11:53] <justnick> it is too hard to mount the fixed hard drive while yesterday it was mounted and i could read from
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper
[11:56] <Minion007> hey guys
[11:57] <firetech> oops, got a kernel panic... :/
[11:57] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[11:57] <Dedi> firetech: i cant test atm, my laptop is running crazy
[11:57] <Minion007> i wanna install 8.10, does it come with compiz fusion?
[11:57] <russian> hello, I have a problem with sound in ubuntu 8.10 before I login the ubuntu sound loops like brrrrrrrr, and when I am logged in the sounds fades, after that I have no sound at all in Ubuntu, when I go to preferences, sound, and try to test my audio I get http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4cv5.png
[11:57] <piasdom> how do i install helvetica font in hardy ?
[11:57] <firetech> Dedi: hehe...
[11:58] <_2> xukun hmmm///   idk.   maybe  aplay -lL   would be more helpful
[11:59] <Minion007> hello?? anyone? does 8.10, does it come with compiz fusion?
[11:59] <Dedi> btw anyone know how to bring usb back when newly plugged-in devices dont work anymore?
[11:59] <Simon-MPFH> Why do some commands not work in crontab?  for example
[11:59] <Dedi> Minion007: yes
[11:59] <Simon-MPFH> 10 0 * * * echo `date +%F` > /datadisk/backupdate.txt doesn't work in crontab :-(
[11:59] <_2> justnick "too hard to mount..." ?    sudo mount /dev/DEVICENODE /media/MOUNTPOINT
[12:00] <siccness> Simon-MPFH: not entirely sure, have you tried specifying the full path of echo?
[12:00] <Dedi> firetech: acpid just needed about 5min to shutdown.. may thats the source of these problems
[12:00] <Minion007> thanks
[12:00] <Simon-MPFH> I'll try - ta
[12:00] <_2> Simon-MPFH because echo is not a user ?
[12:00] <Minion007> Dedi
[12:01] <_2> Simon-MPFH also why echo `blah`   when  blah   does the same thing ?
[12:01] <firetech> Dedi: that sounds... umm... nice.
[12:01] <IsUp> try something: like /bin/echo `date +%F` > /datadisk/backupdate.txt
[12:02] <Simon-MPFH> _2: what would be a better way of writing that?  -  Basically I want to put the data in a file so I can make sure backup is getting rsynced
[12:02] <Simon-MPFH> Ta :-)
[12:02] <Dedi> firetech: i always say.. for stable systems i would wait at least 2 weeks with upgrading... well i could not wait that long :D
[12:02] <_2> IsUp again why are we using echo ?
[12:02] <Simon-MPFH> Because I don't know any better1
[12:02] <siccness> yeah that really doesnt make sense
[12:02] <siccness> just use date
[12:02] <siccness> lol
[12:03] <_2> 10 0 * * * root date +%F | tee /datadisk/backupdate.txt
[12:03] <prince_jammys> date +%F > /blah
[12:03] <Simon-MPFH> Mmmm, obvious when you think eh?
[12:03] <siccness> im barely thinking, im blind drunk
[12:03] <siccness> just keepin it real tho
[12:03] <Russian> Can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[12:03] <xukun> _2, with aplay -lL it says nu: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
[12:03] <justnick> is the installation on usb pen similar as installation on harddrive
[12:03] <IsUp> /bin/date +%F > /datadisk/backupdate.txt
[12:04] <firetech> Dedi: I have run intrepid since october 5, funny thing is that this keyboard problem wasn't present from the beginning (or in hardy)
[12:04] <Simon-MPFH> Thanks all
[12:04] <siccness> im more concerned about why we're simply throwing a date in a text file
[12:04] <siccness> how are you backing your data up?
[12:04] <justnick> is the installation on usb pen similar as installation on harddrive in usage
[12:04] <_2> xukun that looks like the last line   not the full output.
[12:04] <Simon-MPFH> siccness: rsync from another box
[12:05] <Dedi> firetech: tried an older kernel?
[12:05] <siccness> manually or scheduled a script through cron, Simon-MPFH?
[12:05] <siccness> if it's scheduled through cron, just add the date line to the script
[12:05] <prince_jammys>  /bin is already in the PATH used by cron, i thought
[12:05] <piasdom> how do i install helvetica font in hardy ?
[12:05] <Simon-MPFH> scheduled - then I email the contents of that backupdate.txt to a user so they can have a fair idea that "something" has happened!
[12:06] <siccness> piasdom: dont hold me to it, but there's some crap called mscorefonts or some crap
[12:06] <siccness> that might be your key
[12:06] <prince_jammys> !fonts | piasdom
[12:06] <balle_> siccness: logging of now for update hopefully i will be back soon ;)
[12:06] <piasdom> siccness:hahahhhahahhah....thanks...so it's sudo apt-get install crap
[12:07] <siccness> piasdom: yeah that stupid thing heh
[12:07] <xew> q all
[12:07] <piasdom> jammys:thanks
[12:08] <firetech> Dedi: Tried it on a similar laptop (same model, slightly different internals) running a fresh intrepid installation and the problem wasn't there. utterly disturbing.
[12:08] <xukun> _2, this the whole output because i have no idea where exactly to look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67876/
[12:08] <firetech> Dedi: I don't really have the time or energy to reinstall, either...
[12:09] <Dedi> firetech: but you should have older kernels when you have intrepid since 5. oct?
[12:10] <wil_> wow that was quick
[12:10] <Andreica> hello, some days back i installed 64bit ubuntu8.10 . i have a webcam, and to make it work i installed ov51x-jpeg-1.5.9 and it worked until i updated my computer. After that update, my computer don't see webcam. i connected it to another ports, i reinstalled ov51x-jpeg-1.5.9, but my cam still don't work on linux.Can anybody help me?
[12:10] <firetech> Dedi: I have removed all of them :/
[12:10] <Dedi> firetech: can only say keyboard works for me after hibernate
[12:10] <nycz> does anyone know a terminal-based image viewer?
[12:11] <Dedi> firetech: try a recent one from the repos then
[12:11] <prince_jammys> nycz: fbi
[12:11] <_2> xukun and you wanted to know if it supported what ?   4.0 4.1 5.0 5.1 7.1 ????
[12:11] <nycz> prince_jammys: thx, will try
[12:11] <wil_> as far as irc clients go, what do you guys think of xchat?
[12:11] <_2> xukun it lists all of those.
[12:11] <prince_jammys> nycz: but you'll have to have the frame buffer set up properly
[12:11] <firetech> Dedi: I'm gonna try an apt-get install --reinstall of all installed packages ;)
[12:12] <xukun> _2, yes and also digital sound or passthrou
[12:12] <Dedi> firetech: try an older kernel first ;)
[12:12] <Andreica> hello, some days back i installed 64bit ubuntu8.10 . i have a webcam, and to make it work i installed ov51x-jpeg-1.5.9 and it worked until i updated my computer. After that update, my computer don't see webcam. i connected it to another ports, i reinstalled ov51x-jpeg-1.5.9, but my cam still don't work on linux.Can anybody help me?
[12:12] <AdvoWork> ive got loads of locations under Places > Network, theyre all showing on the desktop, how can i remove them, i dont want them on the desktop only under the other location
[12:14] <Andreica> hello, some days back i installed 64bit ubuntu8.10 . i have a webcam, and to make it work i installed ov51x-jpeg-1.5.9 and it worked until i updated my computer. After that update, my computer don't see webcam. i connected it to another ports, i reinstalled ov51x-jpeg-1.5.9, but my cam still don't work on linux.Please help me?
[12:16] <jim_p> earlier today some guy from here showed me this  http://www.rebelzero.com/hardware/ubuntu-810-atiamd-fglrx-driver-updated/30   . IF i suspect that ati made a custom patch for ubuntu 8.10 to work with fglrx, i will order nvidia AND leave ubuntu at once! this is getting like the apple-iphone realtion
[12:16] <KevinO> AdvoWork, i know exactly what your talking about. I have yet to find a solution
[12:16] <jim_p> Andreica: can you please post your lsusb in pastebin?
[12:16] <siccness> ATI is the key
[12:17] <Andreica> look:
[12:17] <Andreica> vazdyk@vazdyk-desktop:~$ lsusb
[12:17] <Andreica> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 1307:0163 Transcend Information, Inc. 512MB USB Flash Drive
[12:17] <Andreica> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[12:17] <Andreica> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:17] <Andreica> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:17] <FloodBot1> Andreica: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <firetech> Dedi: problem is I doubt I'll find a sufficiently old kernel since the problem started to occur slightly after intrepid RC...
[12:18] <digit> Hi all .. I'm trying to compile a rtl8187 wireless driver on intrepid .. I keep getting the "Error 2"
[12:18] <digit> all linux-headers etc. applied
[12:18] <jim_p> siccness: the key to where? so far fglrx's best "feature" is rapid 3d acceleration and nothing more. no compositing, no real powermanagement on laptops, problematic video playback on xv output and so on
[12:18] <digit> ?!
[12:18] <siccness> jim_p: i dont care
[12:18] <siccness> it's the key
[12:18] <jim_p> siccness: are you on nvidia?
[12:18] <siccness> nope
[12:18] <siccness> ATI 4850 HD
[12:19] <KevinO> AdvoWork, i remember some time ago, i was trying to do something similar with the sda icon that was showing up on my desktop, it was my windows partition. There was a solution that made it so it would be mounted in my home folder instead of on the desktop, but it involved editing the fstab and i cant remember cause it was so long ago, how it was done.
[12:19] <jim_p> siccness: then what key is it? to windows gaming?
[12:19] <Tyrath> I've installed elinks to the best of my ability but it doesn't seem to matter what I do it still won't install with javascript
[12:19] <siccness> I don't game
[12:19] <siccness> Tyrath! NO!
[12:19] <Tyrath> I've tried to install spidermonkey manually several times
[12:19] <siccness> have you compiled elinks with javascript support?
[12:19] <siccness> and spidermonkey?
[12:19] <Tyrath> siccness: yes! doesn't work!
[12:20] <siccness> Eeek!
[12:20] <jim_p> siccness: so you bough a monster card that has incomplete support for linux and you dont game?
[12:20] <Andreica> look:      lsusb  Bus 005 Device 003: ID 1307:0163 Transcend Information, Inc. 512MB USB Flash Drive            Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub               Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub                 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub              Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub          Bus 001 Device
[12:20] <Andreica>  002: ID 041e:4052 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Vista IM              Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:20] <Tyrath> siccness: now i've got this stupid problem where no matter what I do I can't seem to remove elinks
[12:20] <Tyrath> siccness: i've tried apt, synaptic, nothing gets rid of it
[12:20] <KevinO> Andreica, have you heard of pastebin?
[12:20] <siccness> jim_p: yeah, i purchased a Quadcore for irssi
[12:20] <Tyrath> siccness: if I type elinks it still loads up this stuffed up version
[12:20] <siccness> i blow money on useless crap i dont need
[12:20] <Tyrath> - everyone does
[12:20] <Dedi> firetech: i have plenty old kernels in synaptic
[12:21] <Andreica> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67879/
[12:21] <siccness> Tyrath: interesting
[12:21] <jim_p> Andreica: creative webcan hey? sorry i cant help.
[12:21] <freedoms_stain> I'm having an issue with brasero, trying to burn an avi file as video to a DVD and when the "Burn" options come up the option to burn the project is greyed out, anyone know what is up?
[12:21] <Tyrath> siccness: any idea how I could get rid of it?
[12:21] <LightTitan> how do I check my Ubuntu Version?
[12:21] <Andreica> it worked, but after i updated, i don't work more
[12:21] <siccness> apt-get remove elinks
[12:21] <siccness> then build it again
[12:21] <Tyrath> siccness: tried that
[12:21] <jim_p> LightTitan: uname -r
[12:21] <LightTitan> thanks
[12:21] <Tyrath> siccness: I installed the deb package but it didn''t seem to work
[12:21] <Tyrath> siccness: like it said it installed
[12:21] <Tyrath> siccness: but i'm not convinced
[12:22] <jim_p> LightTitan: this will tell you the kernel version, which can identify the ubuntu version
[12:22] <siccness> the deb package with javascript support?
[12:22] <slacker_nl> elinks2 maybe?
[12:22] <Tyrath> siccness: how do you do that?
[12:22] <LightTitan> jim_p, ah, was about to ask that. Thanks
[12:22] <Tyrath> siccness: unless it had built in support
[12:22] <siccness> Tyrath: there's bound to be someone who's packaged a deb up with javascript support on elinks
[12:22] <LjL> !version | LightTitan, jim_p
[12:22] <Tyrath> siccness: i think it's supposed to locate the lib automatically. only mine isn't
[12:22] <Tyrath> !elinks
[12:23] <Tyrath> !spidermonkey
[12:23] <Tyrath> grrr
[12:23] <jim_p> i prefer the kernel way
[12:23] <KevinO> Andreica, what program are you using as a front end for the webcam?
[12:23] <siccness> Tyrath: read the last few comments at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elinks/+bug/64031
[12:23] <LightTitan> LjL, ah, cool. Thanks :)
[12:23] <Sjaki`> Obama!
[12:23] <Sjaki`> :D
[12:23] <siccness> regarding the symlink, Tyrath
[12:23] <KevinO> :)
[12:24] <Tyrath> siccness: well first I've got to work out how to remove elinks when apt and synaptic won't work
[12:24] <LjL> Sjaki`: has nothing to do with Ubuntu support.
[12:24] <siccness> Tyrath: was that after you compiled it and built it?
[12:24] <Tyrath> siccness: yep
[12:24] <Sjaki`> Pah, LjL, I'm allowed to say it.
[12:25] <siccness> Tyrath: well yeah those tools wont work
[12:25] <siccness> your best solution from here is
[12:25] <slacker_nl> Tyrath: did you install it with checkinstall?
[12:25] <siccness> that link i just posted
[12:25] <siccness> and recompile
[12:25] <FloodBot1> siccness: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <LjL> Sjaki`: i beg to differ, please stick to Ubuntu support topics in this channel.
[12:25] <siccness> honestly, this floodbot is stupid.
[12:25] <slacker_nl> hehe
[12:25] <Tyrath> slacker_nl: I've installed it with deb packages, apt packages, synaptic, build, everything
[12:25] <Andreica> i'm using 'cheese webcam booth'
[12:26] <slacker_nl> Tyrath: then you should be able to remove it via apt
[12:26] <LjL> siccness: certainly not as stupid as inventing a new "Enter" punctuation mark when we already have such a big connection of those
[12:26] <Tyrath> slacker_nl: well I have lol
[12:26] <Tyrath> slacker_nl: and I've tried to remove it with dpkg
[12:26] <Tyrath> slacker_nl: and I've removed it with synaptic
[12:26] <siccness> LjL: yeah whatever
[12:26] <LjL> Tyrath: it's !info that gives you information about packages.
[12:26] <slacker_nl> and you still have elinks installed even after removing?
[12:27] <siccness> slacker_nl: they wont work
[12:27] <Tyrath> slacker_nl: if I type elinks in shell it runs
[12:27] <siccness> because aptitude/apt-get wont pick it up
[12:27] <siccness> you need to do the symlink thing
[12:27] <siccness> recompile + install elinks
[12:27] <siccness> and try that
[12:27] <Tyrath> siccness: sources or deb or apt?
[12:27] <Tyrath> *soure
[12:27] <siccness> sources
[12:27] <Tyrath> *source
[12:27] <Tyrath> ahk
[12:27] <slacker_nl> Tyrath: if you recompile it from source, use checkinstall
[12:27] <FloodBot1> Tyrath: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <digit> any chance smbdy knows smthng about "make" bugs and errors??
[12:27] <slacker_nl> it will create a debian package for you
[12:27] <siccness> yea and as slacker said, use checkinstall
[12:28] <siccness> that way you can correctly install it and remove it at a later date
[12:28] <siccness> otherwise you'll end up with a stash of broken crap
[12:28] <slacker_nl> so you can remove it with dpkg
[12:28] <Tyrath> this is after symlink yeah?
[12:28] <Andreica> and when i look at 'hardware Drivers', it shows me drivers for my webcam, but i can't use it.
[12:28] <siccness> indeedly
[12:28] <KevinO> digit, give us some more info, what program fails to make? what are the errors?
[12:28] <ikonia> Andreica how are you trying to use it
[12:29] <siccness> Tyrath: once elinks is working with js
[12:29] <siccness> we'll get you up and running with mutt
[12:29] <siccness> and then mpd + ncmpc
[12:29] <Andreica> i'm trying to use it with skype, but skype shows me that no device found,  'Cheese' shows me the same message
[12:29] <siccness> with openbox standalone for sure
[12:29] <ikonia> Andreica: what device is it trying to reference (normally says in the error)
[12:30] <KevinO> digit, please message me in this channel, not private message
[12:30] <digit> :)
[12:30] <Tyrath> ok I've noticed that my smjs directory isn't where the one on that link you gave me is
[12:30] <Tyrath> it's in a different location
[12:30] <Tyrath> mine is in usr/bin/smjs
[12:30] <siccness> yeah whatever, lol :)
[12:30] <Tyrath> does that matter?
[12:30] <Tyrath> I just link it using my location?
[12:30] <siccness> Tyrath, hopefully not
[12:30] <Andreica> there just is writen :  No camera found
[12:30] <siccness> it's currently a loss battle, we cant possibly make it worse, Tyrath :)
[12:30] <Johnatton> Hey
[12:31] <Johnatton> I have a problem after changing some settings in the Compiz manager
[12:31] <Tyrath> siccness: but if i'm linking to something that doesn't exist surely that can't be good lol
[12:31] <ikonia> ghostlines: ask in the channel - please don't send people random private messages
[12:31] <digit> i keep getting errors on compile of rtl8187 wireless
[12:31] <siccness> link it to where yours is located ;)
[12:31] <ikonia> !pm > ghostlines
[12:31] <Johnatton> Can anyone help me, please?
[12:31] <digit> 8198 chipset
[12:31] <digit> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[12:32] <digit> for ex
[12:32] <ikonia> Johnatton: depends on the error
[12:32] <KevinO> digit, who is the mfg of that card?
[12:32] <digit> Realtek
[12:32] <LjL> digit: that means nothing, it's just make eventually saying "i'm giving up because of previous errors"
[12:32] <digit> ok, i can not paste on channel can i!?!
[12:33] <Johnatton> As soon as I changed something, can't recall which, everything became black. Ubuntu is still running fine, but it does not seem to be drawing anything properly
[12:33] <digit> it makes no sense
[12:33] <digit> lots of the stuff on forums
[12:33] <KevinO> digit, pci, or usbb?
[12:33] <KevinO> usb*
[12:33] <digit> usb
[12:33] <ikonia> Johnatton: reset it back to default
[12:33] <LjL> !pastebin > digit    (digit, see the private message from ubotu )
[12:33] <Johnatton> How do I do that?
[12:33] <LjL> digit: also are you sure you need to compile that? the hardware support chart says your card is supported
[12:33] <ikonia> Johnatton: if you open the settings manager you can set things back to default
[12:34] <KevinO> digit, have you seen this wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek#USB
[12:34] <Johnatton> The thing is, if I click something, there is a black rectangle where it should be. Is there a command to set it to default?
[12:34] <msandbu> hmm what media player can ma
[12:34] <ikonia> Johnatton not that I'm aware of
[12:35] <digit> RTL8187 is generally supported in 2.6.27
[12:35] <msandbu> can make playlists of youtube videos
[12:35] <digit> but mine is rally 8198
[12:35] <ikonia> Johnatton the guys in #compiz-fusion may know
[12:35] <siccness> msandbu: firefox can
[12:35] <siccness> it's called bookmarking
[12:35] <Johnatton> Alright, thank you!
[12:35] <scientes> how do i make additional keyrings and mangage them in 8.1
[12:35] <scientes> ?
[12:35] <scientes> it got taken out
[12:35] <ikonia> Johnatton: you may want to consider disabling advacned effects to get a useable to fix this
[12:35] <Andreica> so, can anybody help me with my webcam?
[12:36] <LjL> digit: well so pastebin the entire make output
[12:36] <KevinO> digit, im sorry thats about as far as i can help.
[12:36] <Johnatton> I've tried that, but nothing is being drawn properly, logging into failsafe doesn't seem to help
[12:37] <digit> thanx KevinO
[12:37] <digit> np ;)
[12:37] <LjL> Andreica: make and model would be?
[12:37] <KevinO> Andreica, do you have video4linux installed?
[12:38] <Tyrath> nope still no javascript :/
[12:38] <NicEXE> where can I find my thunderbird mails?
[12:38] <siccness> NicEXE: .Mail iirc
[12:38] <Andreica> no,i haven't it installed, but webcam worked in the begining, after update it don't work
[12:38] <siccness> Tyrath: cry.
[12:38] <Tyrath> ack wait
[12:38] <Tyrath> i had elinks open that whole time
[12:38]  * siccness smacks Tyrath
[12:38] <Tyrath> that wouldn't have effected anything would it?
[12:38] <siccness> you freaking idiot
[12:38] <siccness> yes
[12:38] <Tyrath> lol
[12:38] <siccness> lol
[12:38] <FloodBot1> siccness: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <KevinO> Andreica, you need to figure out what was updated
[12:39] <Andreica> how?
[12:39] <KevinO> good question, unless you skimmed over them before you installed the updates, i have no idea
[12:39] <Tyrath> siccness: so should I recompile and install again?
[12:39] <firetech> redownloading ~1800 packages to 'apt-get install --reinstall' them is the shit... At least its fast when you're sitting about 200m from your main mirror ;)
[12:39] <KevinO> i usually look at all the updates before i install them
[12:39] <digit> ok .. Digit | pastebin
[12:40] <digit> quite large it is
[12:40] <slacker_nl> lol
[12:40] <slacker_nl> siccness is banned for what kind of flooding?
[12:40] <LjL> siccness, language please
[12:40] <legend2440> Andreica: open synaptic  then File>History it will tellyou what has been installed
[12:40] <KevinO> is there a way to see a list of the previously installed updates?
[12:41] <primski> anyone else experiencing problems with audio on intrepid ? having problems with flash videos in firefox - no erorrs, probably some sort of 'cannot access' kinda eroror - any debuging tips ?
[12:41] <siccness> Cheers LjL
[12:42] <Andreica> now another synaptic is running so i have to wait, but after it i will look
[12:42] <msandbu> any media player that has support for youtube streaming, besides using ff and extensions.
[12:43] <slacker_nl> msandbu: totem iirc
[12:43] <|_ocke> dont use totem, use VLC its much better
[12:44] <slacker_nl> vlc doesn't stream youtube...
[12:44] <|_ocke> oh i wasnt seeing what it was regarding
[12:44] <siccness> lol
[12:44] <|_ocke> i just am pissed at totem lately
[12:44] <siccness> Totem is a joke
[12:44] <Tyrath> siccness: i can't get rid of this thing
[12:44] <primski> i dont like it either
[12:44] <Tyrath> siccness: all windows are close
[12:44] <|_ocke> i tried watching an OGM in totem and it was running at like 1 fps, so i got VLC and played it and it runs perfect
[12:44] <mm_work> kernel: [ 1523.631280] ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 <- This is bad right? :<
[12:44] <primski> why dont they include vlc as default media player ?
[12:45] <Tyrath> siccness: and when I compile it does nothing
[12:45] <siccness> mm_work: doesnt look good
[12:45] <slacker_nl> i don't like totem, but I liked the fact that you can view youtube vids from it
[12:45] <Tyrath> siccness: like it works but doesn't overwrite things
[12:45] <Tyrath> siccness: or it installs to another directory
[12:45] <Tyrath> and the original elinks is not getting uninstalled
[12:45] <siccness> try and load it up at the different directory, Tyrath
[12:45] <KevinO> Andreica, when did you install these updates?
[12:45] <Andreica> some days back
[12:45] <Tyrath> siccness: I think the directory it's in must be ~/local
[12:46] <CoRn_Laptop> ok, i'm trying to access an ubuntu shared folder from windows xp and its asking for a username and password
[12:46] <Tyrath> siccness: because i can't install over it
[12:46] <KevinO> oh
[12:46] <siccness> heh
[12:46] <CoRn_Laptop> it rejects my username and pass (the one i'm using right now)
[12:46] <Tyrath> siccness: so yeh - dilemma. have no idea how to get rid of it
[12:46] <CoRn_Laptop> do i need to make another unix account?
[12:46] <siccness> Tyrath: you couldnt install over it because it was currently running, it wont take affect until that piece of software is closed
[12:46] <siccness> so try and run from the ~/locaal
[12:46] <siccness> see what happens
[12:46] <slacker_nl> CoRn_Laptop: check smbpasswd
[12:46] <Tyrath> siccness:
[12:46] <siccness> if no luck, just recompile again
[12:46] <Tyrath> siccness: k
[12:46] <siccness> see if that works
[12:47] <slacker_nl> CoRn_Laptop: or you need to adjust your smb.conf to allow guests on your shares
[12:47] <CoRn_Laptop> slacker_nl, how do you do that? smbpasswd asks for the old pass
[12:47] <Andreica> 2 days ago
[12:47] <mm_work> Does there exist a tool for Ubuntu/Linux that can do a surface scan/repair of a hard drive?
[12:47] <CoRn_Laptop> slacker_nl, the .conf tells me that i need a user account on this computer for every PC that wants to share.
[12:48] <slacker_nl> CoRn_Laptop: you can define guest ok = yes for your share
[12:48] <siccness> guest ok param
[12:48] <siccness> ahh slacker beat me to it
[12:48] <ghostlines> what do you guys use as an itunes alternative?
[12:48] <slacker_nl> mplayer ;)
[12:48] <macpo3> you mean like the old stuff that we used to use on mfm hard drives?
[12:48] <siccness> otherwise look at: valid users = [user]
[12:48] <primski> firefox gives me this error : "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" - sound in flash doenst work - smth borks it, works after reboot but stops at some point, any debuging tips ?
[12:48] <siccness> primski: i had this problem once
[12:48] <primski> o rly
[12:48] <siccness> problem lied at firefox
[12:49] <gordonjcp> ghostlines: depends what you mean by "alternative"
[12:49] <siccness> ps -ef | grep -i firefox
[12:49] <primski> :o
[12:49] <siccness> kill -9 ...
[12:49] <gordonjcp> ghostlines: I use audacious, but that's a fairly ordinary mp3 player
[12:49] <slacker_nl> pkill -9 firefox would be easier
[12:49] <macpo3> there's disk imaging stuff, but I think the drives themselves tend to manage the low level issues these days
[12:49] <KevinO> Andreica, open Synaptic Pacage Manager, on the File menu, choose history, get me the results of that particular day please/ Use pastebin
[12:49] <CoRn_Laptop> slacker_nl, and with guest ok = yes, i don't need a username and pass? and the guest can write to the share?
[12:49] <limecat> is it possible to set up volume normalization on pulse audio (ie, not on one specific application)?
[12:49] <siccness> slacker_nl: yeah but that's not how I work :)
[12:49] <Andreica> ok, one minute
[12:49] <slacker_nl> CoRn_Laptop: if you define it, yes
[12:49] <KevinO> Synaptic Package*
[12:49] <slacker_nl> otherwise no
[12:50] <slacker_nl> CoRn_Laptop: man smb and man smb.conf
[12:50] <primski> siccness: ok, killed it and restarted - same thing - if i reboot it will work - but dunno what borks it
[12:50] <siccness> primski: lsof might be useful here
[12:50] <siccness> see what's using it
[12:51] <macpo3> how do I make the greeter screen resolution different? At the moment my greeter is displaying the same size as after I log in, but at a different screen res, so the greeter login dialog is actually off the physical display area and I have to scroll the screen to find it
[12:51] <KevinO> !res
[12:51] <jim_p> well what do you know. atis 8.11beta driver was made for ubuntu ONLY and it is ONLY available as a .deb !!!
[12:51] <hansch> Hi all. I've just installed ubuntu 8.10 with wubi
[12:51] <Andreica> look http://paste.ubuntu.com/67891/
[12:51] <mijanebuntu> help please.  installd 8.04 with flash 10, no vid and sound, uninstalled 10 replaced with 9, still no vid, replaced flash 9 with gnash, and still no luck, can someone tell me what i may have done wrong?  someone askd me if i installed from live disk, yes, i did ...
[12:52] <hansch> i'm trying to get chinese input working... can anyone guide me?
[12:52] <mijanebuntu> actually this sys a favor for a friend, did him the favor of wiping vista home off his acer laptop last nite ... started at 10pm, and by the time i was done adding, tweaking, configuring, etc was finally putting it through paces at 2 am when i saw no dice with video/flash
[12:52] <KevinO> Andreica, its the new linux headers causing the problem
[12:52] <mijanebuntu> i did a search on : acer aspire 3680 ubuntu flash problems  and din't seem to get any relevant return
[12:52] <Andreica> i thing that it's because of them
[12:52] <KevinO> Andreica, reboot into your old kernel and see if your webcam works
[12:52] <siccness> 4hrs migration from Vista to Ubuntu? hell im impressed
[12:53] <primski> siccness: firefox, nautilus, pidgin, evolution (despite i dont use it), some other applets, gnome-pow, gnome-set, gnome-hel (truncated)
[12:53] <Andreica> after i installed these updates, in the boot menu, nothing changed
[12:53] <mijanebuntu> how can i troubleshoot this prob, i promised my buddy to have his laptop back to him today ... arrrrgggghhhh :P
[12:53] <primski> nothing out of the ordinary tho :(
[12:53] <mijanebuntu> i did a search on : acer aspire 3680 ubuntu flash problems  and din't seem to get any relevant return
[12:53] <siccness> primski: PIDGIN!
[12:53] <KevinO> Andreica, during grub load hit "ESC" it should be the 3rd down from the list, if you havent done and modification to grub
[12:53] <Skry^> mijanebuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[12:53] <siccness> kill it
[12:53] <siccness> try again
[12:54] <Andreica> i try, in some minutes i will come back
[12:54] <KevinO> ok
[12:54] <SLXViper> i need some hints what i can check on two laptops with a very new ubuntu-8.10-install on each (one 32 and one 64 bit) with problems with vpnc (configured via network-manager). vpnc connects, but any host outside the net where they are in (10.***) is unreachable = Internet is not accessible, 141.28.*** (on the same site) neither. Config seems to be ok, works for me (8.04.1)...
[12:54] <siccness> mijanebuntu: never make a promise
[12:54] <Skry^> mijanebuntu, hope it helps, i'm havin problems with flash too, i've found no solution yet :\
[12:54] <primski> siccness- no, killing pidgin doenst help - but it used to work with both on - in hardy at least
[12:55] <hansch> anyone here knows how to get chinese input working in ubuntu?
[12:55] <siccness> kill everything using sound, see what happens :D
[12:55] <primski> heh
[12:55] <primski> ok
[12:55] <primski> brb
[12:55] <tleuser> ดีครับ
[12:55] <limecat> anyone know if its possible to do volume normalization on all of pulse, or at least flash audio in firefox?
[12:55] <tleuser> สวัสดีคร้าบบบ
[12:56] <mijanebuntu> thanks, skry, i will look at it
[12:56] <KevinO> hansch, /j #ubuntu-cn may be of better help to you
[12:56] <siccness> primski: i bet if you do: ctrl+alt+backspace (killing X), it'd work :)
[12:56] <tleuser> Hello everyone
[12:57] <hansch> thanks kevino
[12:57] <lianimator> I can't change opacity with Alt+Scroll anymore??
[12:57] <alec> i have a usb flash drive that appears to be corrupted (aka, i get heiroglyphics looking stuff that the computer cant read or even erase) i am wonder if there is a program similar to disk utility for osx that i can use to wipe the drive and reformat it
[12:57] <KevinO> np
[12:57] <primski> siccness - probably - reboot helps as i mentioned - but i'd like to know why this happens
[12:57] <KevinO> lianimator, did you just reinstall?
[12:57] <Pici> alec: gparted
[12:57] <siccness> this'll narrow it down
[12:57] <primski> yes, killing process, give me a min
[12:57] <siccness> there'll be a specific application as culpirate
[12:57] <Tyrath> HOW CAN I SPELL OUT HOW MUCH I SUDDENLY HATE APTITUDE!!!!
[12:57] <limecat> alec: its under system-->administration-->partition editor, if you want to use gui
[12:58] <lianimator> KevinO: fresh install of Ibex
[12:58] <LjL> Tyrath: in lowercase, please
[12:58] <lianimator> Tyrath: you can't
[12:58] <siccness> Tyrath: emerge that!
[12:58] <siccness> pacman that!
[12:58] <Tyrath> thanks to aptitude I deleted all this stuff I actually wanted
[12:58] <bazhang> !offtopic | siccness
[12:58] <siccness> Tyrath: lol
[12:58] <Tyrath> siccness: I'm half wiping my computer trying to install this stupid application
[12:58] <siccness> Tyrath: ahahahhahaah
[12:59] <lianimator> KevinO: the option is no longer in compiz.
[12:59] <KevinO> lianimator, did you install compizconfig-settings-manager?
[12:59] <Tyrath> now I'm going to have to reinstall openoffice :(
[12:59] <KevinO> oh
[12:59] <siccness> openoffice? forget that
[12:59] <KevinO> i dont know then. :(
[12:59] <Tyrath> and I don't know what else went
[12:59] <prince_jammys> that's probably apt-get, not aptitude
[12:59] <siccness> you're better off using vim
[12:59] <Pici> siccness: Thats not helpful.
[12:59] <Tyrath> hopefully when I reboot not everything will stuff up
[12:59] <alec> limecat: thanks, now once im there do i create a partition table?
[12:59] <Tyrath> siccness: what makes you think I don't use vim :P
[12:59] <siccness> Pici: I respectfully disagree.
[13:00] <Tyrath> siccness: I use openoffice when I've got to submit documents in a nice format for my lecturers
[13:00] <LjL> siccness: and i respectfully ask you to tone down, not stray from the channel topic and revise your attitude
[13:00] <lianimator> Tyrath: what are you trying to install?
[13:00] <synapse_> #hackbbs
[13:00] <Tyrath> lianimator: I was trying to uninstall elinks but uninstalled all these good progs by accident
[13:00] <lianimator> KevinO: yes, I have the config. but I can't find the opacity settings anymore.
[13:01] <limecat> alec: what do you mean?  rightclick/format the partition as whatever type you want
[13:01] <siccness> Tyrath: Heard of LyX? Quite good.
[13:01] <lianimator> Tyrath: are you using the terminal or gui?
[13:01] <warddr> hello, I have a number in this form: (x*2^y), it's about 200000 didgits, does anyone know a way to calculate it (and to see all the didgits)?$
[13:01] <Tyrath> lianimator: terminal
[13:01] <Tyrath> lianimator: I don't get the GUI
[13:01] <siccness> High five, Tyrath!
[13:01] <prince_jammys> Tyrath: i thought these problems with aptitude were gone. had those other packages been automatically installed?
[13:01] <Tyrath> lianimator: but aptitude has a GUI
[13:01] <CoRn_Laptop> whenever i try 'sudo smbpasswd -a 'guest1' ' it asks me for a new password, but it 'fails to modify password entry for user guest1', even though i'm running as sudo. what am i doing wrong?
[13:01] <alec> limecat: its telling me it has an error partitioning the disk? could my usb drive be totally trashed?
[13:01] <jrib> warddr: gsl or python should work
[13:02] <limecat> alec: i imagine so, unless the drive is currently mounted
[13:02] <warddr> and how do I do it with python?
[13:02] <Tyrath> prince_jammys: I just thought I had elinks selected but it appears everything else was selected
[13:02] <prince_jammys> Tyrath: oh.
[13:02] <prince_jammys> Tyrath: i use aptitude exclusively, and had this problem a long time ago when i switched from apt-get.
[13:02] <siccness> CoRn_Laptop: do you have a system user of the same name?
[13:02] <Tyrath> prince_jammys: thankfully I closed the terminal before I lost everything
[13:02] <limecat> make sure its not appearing on your desktop or in the places menu--ideally check by issuing the command "mount"
[13:02] <prince_jammys> Tyrath: but never since
[13:02] <jrib> warddr: start a python shell and ask it to compute it?
[13:02] <limecat> if you see it on desktop, rightclick / unmount
[13:03] <jrib> warddr: exponentiation is ** though
[13:03] <lianimator> Tyrath: yes, you have to look at what else are being removed.
[13:03] <Tyrath> but given aptitude is obviously good at deleting things - so good infact that it seems to delete everything it might be my only way to get rid of elinks
[13:03] <lianimator> Tyrath: like, removing firefox will remove the ubuntu-desktop I think.... don't know why.
[13:03] <siccness> lianimator: that's just a meta package anyway, so who cares.
[13:04] <Tyrath> lianimator: yeah loosing firefox would be a killer because I need javascript :/
[13:04] <alec> limecat: the drive is mounted, should it not be?
[13:04] <prince_jammys> lianimator: it's something related to automatically installed packages, and combining aptitude with apt-get.
[13:04] <limecat> lianimator: as i understand it ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that contains all the stuff that makes ubuntu, ubuuntu
[13:04] <lianimator> seriously though, how can you remove those that come with ubuntu? without removing the whole set?
[13:04] <warddr> jrib, I'll give it a try
[13:04] <sleven> how do I install the flash-stuff for youtube? i installed gnash but that didnt help
[13:04] <limecat> lianimator: so losing the metapackage just means its no longer technically ubuntu-desktop edition'
[13:04] <CoRn_Laptop> siccness, ahh i see. ok i think i've figured it out now. ive gotta make a seperate 'guest' account here on ubuntu and assign a SMB password to that, right?
[13:04] <bazhang> !flash | sleven
[13:04] <b33r> sleon, uninstall gnash and install flash-nonfree
[13:04] <ikonia> sleven the package flashplugin-nonfree is the flash package
[13:04] <lianimator> limecat: so it's okay to remove it?
[13:04] <jrib> sleven: remove gnash and install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:05] <siccness> CoRn_Laptop: the user needs to be in existance on the system, yes
[13:05] <limecat> alec: you cannot format/partition a mounted drive
[13:05] <limecat> unmounting it just makes it no longer in use
[13:05] <limecat> then gparted will be able to deal with it
[13:05] <warddr> jrib, it works, ty
[13:05] <siccness> ill be honest though, ive never done such a boring implementation of samba. All my implementations of Samba have been with LDAP.
[13:05] <KevinO> lianimator, that option is still there for me, under, Ststem>Preferences>advanced desktop settings>opacify
[13:05] <jrib> warddr: no problem
[13:05] <Tyrath> lianimator: elinks didn't come with ubuntu
[13:05] <primski> siccness: hmm, killed 15 processes or so, none of them brought the audio back :S - need to reboot now, everything is weird
[13:05] <siccness> no
[13:05] <siccness> dont reboot
[13:05] <primski> :o
[13:05] <siccness> ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:05] <primski> k
[13:06] <primski> ah ok
[13:06] <siccness> try that first
[13:06] <alec> limecat: oh ok thanks. now if i unmount and i still get an error, then im probably out of luck right?
[13:06] <primski> ok, brb
[13:06] <m0niker> alsamixer
[13:06] <jrib> primski: restart pulseaudio?
[13:06] <limecat> primski: another potion if that doesnt work
[13:06] <limecat> do a commandline init 1, init 5
[13:06] <Tyrath> gah i've had enough
[13:06] <CoRn_Laptop> siccness, alright its working now, thanks a bunch
[13:06] <Tyrath> i soo have to do some study
[13:06] <limecat> thatll do a sorta reboot, but faster
[13:06] <siccness> CoRn_Laptop: no probs
[13:06] <Tyrath> will sort this out some other time
[13:06] <lianimator> KevinO: it's different from opacity settings, there used to be a tab. I can Alt+scroll to change the window's opacity.
[13:06] <Tyrath> catch you people
[13:06] <ikonia> limecat: why is ini 5 faster than a reboot ?
[13:06] <siccness> catch Tyrath
[13:06] <ikonia> limecat: it's the same process
[13:06] <siccness> sorry we couldnt get it working mate
[13:06] <limecat> init 5, not 6
[13:06] <Tyrath> thanks for the help
[13:07] <legend2440> sleven: if you are using intrepid then Flash 10 is also available in repos. its called    adobe-flashplugin
[13:07] <limecat> init 1, init 5 goes to single user mode, then back to multi user
[13:07] <ikonia> limecat: init 6 is reboot
[13:07] <limecat> restarts 90% of things IIRDC
[13:07] <limecat> IIRC*
[13:07] <jrib> limecat: 2 is the default runlevel anyway
[13:07] <ikonia> limecat: seeing as ubuntu doesn't go beyond runlevel 2 - thats nonsesnse
[13:07] <paiva> alguem que fale em portugues? BRAZIL?
[13:07] <limecat> jrib: 2-5 are the same then
[13:07] <KevinO> lianimator, i guess i am not understanding you
[13:07] <Pici> !br | paiva
[13:07] <limecat> init 5 always worked :\
[13:07] <se1> hello, good evening,:-D
[13:07] <KevinO> you want to control the opacity of each and every window?
[13:07] <primski> siccness - no, ctrl--alt-backspace doesnt help, same thing
[13:08] <BuFF> hello too
[13:08] <siccness> ehh, im out of ideas :|
[13:08] <primski> siccness- in fact, didnt even hear the login sound - seems like *all* sounds are broken
[13:08] <limecat> why did they mess with the runlevels anyways :\  i always understood that runlevel 5 was multiuser desktop
[13:08] <web_knows> hi
[13:08] <siccness> primski: you're not using mpd are you?
[13:08] <lianimator> KevinO: yes, sometimes I'm typing something while looking at something else. it helps to just make the window transparent..
[13:08] <primski> siccness: mpd :o whats tthat ?
[13:09] <siccness> nvm
[13:09] <BuFF> If i wanna pay Nintendo game on ubuntu . What do you think use emulator
[13:09] <chris062689> Which system buff?
[13:09] <lianimator> KevinO: I use the touchpad scroll to control it, so it's convenient for me
[13:09] <primski> i am using gnome-rdp a lot. perhaps this is to blame - i route audio to play on this host - maybe this borks it - let me reboot and try from scratch
[13:09] <BuFF> ubuntu
[13:09] <siccness> primski: possibly
[13:09] <BuFF> emulator famicom
[13:10] <chris062689> BuFF; which Nintendo System?
[13:10] <chris062689> Famicom?
[13:10] <primski> ok, i'll try, brb
[13:10] <BuFF> Yep
[13:10] <chris062689> Type it in the  Synapti
[13:10] <BuFF> that right
[13:10] <Andreica> i looked, in grub is only one version of kernel
[13:10] <KevinO> liLIAN
[13:10] <KevinO> d
[13:10] <KevinO> d
[13:10] <Pici> KevinO: stop
[13:10] <FloodBot2> KevinO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <BuFF> chris  i can apt-get insall Synapti that right ?
[13:10] <lianimator> KevinO: ah, I think I've found it
[13:10] <ykphuah> where do I find emacs source repo for intrepid?
[13:11] <ksbalaji_> how to install fonts from *.ttf files please?
[13:11] <lianimator> KevinO: under opacity, brightness, saturation..
[13:11] <prince_jammys> BuFF: yes, though it comes with a default ubuntu desktop
[13:11] <wamng> 怎么连接到ubuntu－cn？
[13:11] <BuFF> Oh
[13:11] <Pici> !cn | wamng
[13:11] <jrib> !fonts | ksbalaji_
[13:11] <Iradieh> What codec do I need to play HD content or .mkv files?
[13:11] <BuFF> Thank you
[13:11] <scribbles> I run Kubuntu and just did  adept updates and now it switched me to gnome! Is there any way in gnome to roll back the previous updates that were done?
[13:11] <ksbalaji_> thanks jrib !
[13:11] <siccness> matroska
[13:11] <bazhang> wamng, type:   /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:11] <prince_jammys> Iradieh: i think this depends on how they are encoded
[13:11] <Andreica> maybe i need to reinstall ubuntu to make it work?
[13:12] <jrib> ksbalaji_: basically, you can just copy them to ~/.fonts
[13:12] <mndo> !mplayer
[13:12] <Iradieh> prince_jammys: well are there any common-codecs I should  have for general movieplaying ;)
[13:12] <siccness> postive mkv is matroska
[13:12] <siccness> VLC will play this
[13:12] <prince_jammys> Iradieh: ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[13:12] <prince_jammys> Iradieh: mplayer and vlc can handle most formats
[13:12] <Iradieh> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:12] <BuFF> > , ,<
[13:13] <Andreica> maybe i need to reinstall ubuntu to make my webcam work?
[13:13] <mib_saga> i am downloading interpid dvd using jigdo...it asked me a debian mirror but when downloading form that us mirror it cannot find many packages (404 not found), please give(suggest)  me a mirror!
[13:13] <BuFF> i am newbie ubuntu
[13:13] <scientes> will installing hardy 3rd party packages break my intrepid?
[13:13] <BuFF> > , , <
[13:13] <bazhang> BuFF, super nintendo?
[13:13] <ikonia> mib_saga there are many mirrors, try some
[13:14] <ikonia> !mirror > mib_saga
[13:14] <jrib> scientes: depends on the 3rb party
[13:14] <jrib> 3rd even
[13:14] <BuFF> No bazhang
[13:14] <BuFF> nintendo on super nintendo
[13:14] <BuFF> > , , <
[13:14] <scientes> but in general basic packages will work
[13:14] <Andreica> what is easier to use? 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu? Is any speed difference between them?
[13:14] <scientes> if they are good
[13:14] <scientes> between releases?
[13:14] <Andreica> yes
[13:14] <ikonia> Andreica you won't seen any speed difference tot he naked eye
[13:14] <Pici> !who
[13:14] <siccness> Andreica: both the same in terms of easy-ness.
[13:14] <BuFF> sory if my englisht language very poor
[13:15] <siccness> Speed difference, possible
[13:15] <siccness> dependant on application and hardware one would assume
[13:15] <KevinO> BuFF, what is your language?
[13:15] <scientes> Andreica, instal 64-bit if you have the hardware and the live cd works good
[13:15] <BuFF> Thai
[13:15] <Andreica> ok, thanks
[13:15] <Iradieh> My screen gets black when playing movies. Screensaver is off and so is powersaving. I get core files from XBMC
[13:15] <BuFF> i come from thailand
[13:15] <ValentineX> pidgin does not works with the google talk invisible status... so any messenger for ubuntu where gtalk invisible status works?
[13:15] <jrib> scientes: in general, if a package does not override an existing package (especially libraries), it's probably ok
[13:15] <xomp> Hello, is there a good alternative to F-Spot in Gnome? My mom is barely capable of simply copy/paste operations and she deals a lot with digital images from her camera and despises F-Spot. Any suggestions?
[13:16] <ValentineX> BuFF: welcome :)
[13:16] <BuFF> i interrest in ubuntu . today i test use fist time
[13:16] <prince_jammys> Iradieh: are you using compiz? if so, try without
[13:16] <steveccc> hi all - how is everyone finding 8.10 - a worthy upgrade from 8.04?
[13:16] <BuFF> i like it very much
[13:16] <ValentineX> BuFF: me too liked ubuntu very much i left xp :D
[13:16] <Iradieh> prince_jammys:  no
[13:16] <steveccc> buff: did you run 8.04 before?
[13:16] <Iradieh> prince_jammys: no compiz on
[13:17] <Mahesh3231243412> Hi all, any body have the idea @  Gtalk on ubuntu?
[13:17] <winenvine> Hi All, could someone tell me the quickest way to install JRE in ubuntu so that java applets on web page can run?
[13:17] <BuFF> yep
[13:17] <prince_jammys> Iradieh: you can't play ANY kind of videos?
[13:17] <ValentineX> Mahesh3231243412: use pidgin for google talk the best b-)
[13:17] <BuFF> i use 8.04 before
[13:17] <prince_jammys> !codecs > Iradieh : see if this is any use
[13:17] <jrib> winenvine: install the sun-java6-plugin  package or icedtea6-plugin if you want to use the openJDK
[13:17] <steveccc> buff: whats better in your opinion: just waiting for my download to complete :(
[13:17] <primski> sicness:, it seem gnome-rdp is to blame
[13:17] <prince_jammys> !codecs > Iradieh
[13:17] <winenvine> I did but still cannot run those java applet
[13:18] <siccness> primski: awesome!
[13:18] <primski> siccness: worked right after reboot - launched rdp - and voila it doesnt work anymore
[13:18] <siccness> problem solved
[13:18] <primski> indeed
[13:18] <Mahesh3231243412> ﻿Hi all, any body have the idea @  Gtalk on ubuntu?
[13:18] <primski> thanks for help
[13:18] <ValentineX> jrib: recommended ram for ubuntu 8.10 is?
[13:18] <winenvine> when tested on sun's web site I got half of the cartoon
[13:18] <siccness> np
[13:18] <jrib> ValentineX: I don't know.  Probably 512 would do fine
[13:18] <winenvine> jrib: is there a command to do the install?
[13:18] <Mahesh3231243412> thx valentine
[13:19] <ValentineX> jrib: ok me too think that, sometime ubuntu feels tired at 256mb but running good :D
[13:19] <energY> Hello
[13:19] <Mahesh3231243412> ok
[13:19] <energY> I am so annoyed at you ubuntu people!
[13:19] <Iradieh> energY: same here
[13:19] <prince_jammys> 'we ubuntu people'?
[13:19] <winenvine> jrib: it seems there are too many mozilla and firefox directories
[13:19] <ValentineX> energY: Iradieh: why?
[13:19] <Mahesh3231243412> any body used the Wine utility?
[13:19] <xomp> Remote Desktop Viewer doesn't work. It won't even give me an option to do anything but Connect (and that fails as well).
[13:19] <bazhang> energY, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:20] <Iradieh> the OS is unstable
[13:20] <energY> About 10/11 days ago I downloaded and burned the latest cd's. And now I discover you have made a new version!
[13:20] <Iradieh> I HAVE TO RESTART AGAIN
[13:20] <energY> Like I am going to be poor burning this many cds!
[13:20] <b33r> Iradieh, you don't like it move back to xp no one is forcing you to use it ;)
[13:20] <Iradieh> Because my screen froze
[13:20] <jrib> !apt > winenvine
[13:20] <Iradieh> b33r: I use OS X :PO
[13:20] <ValentineX> i am happy with ubuntu people, i have not friend how can teach me ubuntu i just heard about it from net and all the things i learn is from these ubuntu people energY Iradieh
[13:20] <steveccc> energy: it did say on the site new version coming in x days
[13:20] <prince_jammys> energY: that's ok. you're not compelled to get the upgrade any time soon
[13:20] <b33r> Iradieh, then stick with that..
[13:20] <Iradieh> b33r: well duuh
[13:20] <Iradieh> b33r: if my screen keeps freezing
[13:20] <jrib> winenvine: or use System -> Administration -> Synaptic.  I don't know what you are referring to about "too many mozilla and firefox directories"
[13:20] <bazhang> !offtopic
[13:20] <Iradieh> you think I'll stick with the freezing one?
[13:21] <Mahesh3231243412> ﻿any body used the Wine utility? I  have tried it and installed the IE 6 on ubuntu
[13:21] <energY> prince_jammys: I canno't give my friends old cds...
[13:21] <Iradieh> restart time again... THANKS alot ubuntu.. crap os
[13:21] <Mahesh3231243412> but how to update the IE version ?
[13:21] <BuFF> wine-door
[13:21] <se1> while play .rmvb files with GMplayer, it always alert "unable to open DirectShow codec: drvc.dll". it has video  and sound, but I cant resize the video picture. any help? Thx very much.
[13:22] <Mahesh3231243412> Hello Buff can u tell me something @ wine-door
[13:22] <xomp> Remote Desktop Viewer doesn't work. It won't even give me an option to do anything but Connect (and that fails as well).
[13:22] <prince_jammys> energY: what do you mean? hardy is a long term support release, and it's not THAT different from intrepid
[13:22] <BuFF> wine-door very good for run software on linux
[13:22] <prince_jammys> energY: it'll receive updates for 3 years
[13:22] <se1> I had rp9codecs-20050115 codec install.
[13:23] <Johnm> energY: you mean the 1 install DVD it takes? sounds expensive ;)
[13:23] <energY> prince_jammys: So the new thing isn't any cooler?
[13:23] <prince_jammys> energY: not radically
[13:23] <energY> Johnm: I need 64 and 32 bit
[13:23] <prince_jammys> energY: they can also upgrade the distribution themselves, if they choose to
[13:23] <Johnm> energY: may i ask why? (regardless, its two)
[13:23] <steveccc> can anyone recommend the best way to encrypt a whole disk in 8.10
[13:23] <BuFF> but have some problem
[13:24] <PecisDarbs> how to see partition uuids?
[13:24] <BuFF> but i think good begin run software win on linux
[13:24] <energY> Johnm: 64 bit on my laptop, 32 on the boxes. 64 makes my laptop faster.
[13:24] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive got a program called exaile, and im trying to play an mp3, and it keeps saying: You do not have the appropriate Gstreamer plugin installed to play this file     any ideas please?
[13:24] <energY> prince_jammys: How did I do that?
[13:25] <ikonia> AdvoWork install the right plugin ?
[13:25] <BuFF> Sorry if you can't understand my talking to you . becouse my eng language very poor > , , <
[13:25] <Johnm> energY: just be aware that things like java plugins wont exist for a native 64-bit browser and you'll need to install a 32 bit browser for use with it.
[13:25] <prince_jammys> energY: tell them you did it on purpose, since intrepid is brand-spanking new and you wanted them to have something reliable ;)
[13:25] <Mahesh3231243412> which software Windows na?
[13:25] <Slartibartfast> AdvoWork, I suggest you install mplayer/gmplayer which supports many other formats
[13:25] <siccness> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[13:25] <prince_jammys> energY: they can do it by just clicking on 'upgrade distribution' in the update applet
[13:25] <chris062689> Has anyone gotten the Treo to sync properly in 8.10?
[13:26] <AdvoWork> Slartibartfast,  but its only a .mp3.. how come it wont play that? and ikonia  i dunno, i just installed the program itself
[13:26] <tillux1> Johnm: well, that's not quite true
[13:26] <xomp> Can someone please help me with Remote Desktop Viewer in Intrepid? It's not working like it should according to all the Google HOW-TO's I've been reading.
[13:26] <iGama> Hy all
[13:26] <Slartibartfast> AdvoWork, then sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[13:26] <Koordin> hi, i have here a very confusing problem : i've upgraded to 8.10 and now the display on my desktop is totally buggy : there are some black lines that appears every second everywhere on the screen ; my drivers are up-to-date (nvidia-glx-177) and i've already try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop or xserver-xorg ; could someone help me please ?
[13:26] <siccness> JohnM!
[13:26] <CoRn_Laptop> ok, i've gotten the guest account working so that i can transfer files between my windows and ubuntu PCS, but now the files i've transfered belong to 'guest' and not to me.
[13:26] <Johnm> tillux1: if you want full java support in the sense of it not being a stripped down broken Sun JVM (openjava) then it's fairly true :)
[13:26] <CoRn_Laptop> how do i transfer ownership?
[13:26] <energY> Johnm: Would my 32 bit wine games be faster in 64 bit wine?
[13:26] <tillux1> heya there... is there a way to tell nautilus to open new windows in a tab as the default behaviour? so instead of opening another window just open a tab in the already existing window?
[13:26] <Johnm> siccness: hiya
[13:26] <siccness> Johnm: hows my favourite gentoo kernel dev going? :)
[13:26] <AdvoWork> siccness,  that worked
[13:27] <siccness> JohnM is the key to success!
[13:27] <Johnm> energY: the applications are 32 bit applications, running under an API mapper. They're still 32 bit.
[13:27] <Slartibartfast> CoRn_Laptop, always use -dpr at the terminal
[13:27] <siccness> AdvoWork: I know it did. :)
[13:27] <tillux1> energY: no
[13:27] <Johnm> siccness: I retired a while ago now mate ;)
[13:27] <Johnm> siccness: good though.
[13:27] <siccness> Johnm: i know, i know
[13:27] <CoRn_Laptop> Slartibartfast, wait, so whats the exact command?
[13:27] <siccness> but still, i love you.
[13:27] <se1> ﻿while play .rmvb files with GMplayer, it always alert "unable to open DirectShow codec: drvc.dll". it has video  and sound, but I cant resize the video picture. any help? Thx very much.
[13:27] <siccness> You're the reason I use linux
[13:27] <siccness> you got me on to progeny :)
[13:28] <tillux1> energY: 64bit wine doesn't even support 32bit apps
[13:28] <Slartibartfast> CoRn_Laptop, cp -dpr <path>
[13:28] <siccness> Johnm: that being said, I'm now an IBM AIX guy :)
[13:28] <CoRn_Laptop> ah
[13:28] <xomp> Can someone please help me with Remote Desktop Viewer in Intrepid? It's not working like it should according to all the Google HOW-TO's I've been reading.
[13:28] <se1> ﻿ I had rp9codecs-20050115 codec installed.
[13:28] <Johnm> siccness: in a professional capacity, or at home?
[13:28] <energY> Is the 64 bit core bether? More I/O while hosting network stuff? And where is my ramdisk-folder?
[13:28] <siccness> professional
[13:28] <shadfc> so after upgrading to intrepid, my box keeps booting into busybox saying that it cannot find the root device.  The 2.6.27-7 kernel does this, but the older 2.6.24-21 still works fine.  Ive tried adding rootdelay=100 with no luck
[13:28] <siccness> AIX and TSM engineer
[13:28] <Koordin> hi, i have here a very confusing problem : i've upgraded to 8.10 and now the display on my desktop is totally buggy : there are some black lines that appears every second everywhere on the screen ; my drivers are up-to-date (nvidia-glx-177) and i've already try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop or xserver-xorg ; could someone help me please ?
[13:28] <Johnm> energY: I think you misunderstand the major benefits behind 64bit, but in short, not really.
[13:28] <toto> salut la comune
[13:29] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> Hello my friend in this room
[13:29] <tillux1> energY: 64bit is nice for audio and video
[13:29] <bazhang> !fr | toto
[13:29] <Johnm> energY: I'm not even sure how 64bit wine could theoretically run 32 bit applications :S
[13:29] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> How to register my name ?
[13:29] <bazhang> !register | BuFFaLo_CyBeR
[13:29] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> in irc server
[13:29] <energY> Johnm: I have wine in wubi
[13:29] <energY> Wubi is slow
[13:29] <siccness> Johnm: I passed the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager cert, going fot the AIX pSeries Administration cert at the end of this month
[13:29] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> thank you
[13:29] <energY> I need to flash bios and install the cd...
[13:30] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> !register |
[13:30] <Slartibartfast> Koordin, that problem is always caused by xorg-server, it quite a process to debug and I suggest you google there are quite a number of solutions there
[13:30] <bazhang> siccness, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here.
[13:30] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> !register | BuFFaLo_CyBeR
[13:30] <xomp> Can someone please help me with Remote Desktop Viewer in Intrepid? It's not working like it should according to all the Google HOW-TO's I've been reading.
[13:30] <BuFFaLo_CyBeR> Thank ubottu
[13:30] <steveccc> has there been any imrovement in xfce in 8.10
[13:30] <Koordin> Slartibartfast: ok thanks ; but i don't know which keywords i could use ; "black buggy lines ?"
[13:30] <Koordin> " ?*
[13:31] <xpavelx> hey. i need help lspci.. i can see my device is there. but i dont know where is it installed to. /dev/ttyS*
[13:31] <iGama> does NM0.7 still have problems with the e-U network?
[13:31] <peppo> how can I explicitly initiate a distribution upgrade to 8.10 (I am on 8.04) if the update manager doesn't show such an icon?
[13:31] <AdvoWork> if i normally open a terminal and do: ssh user@ip   is there any way to auto do that each time?
[13:32] <Johnm> peppo: edit /etc/apt/sources.list changing hardy to intrepid, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:32] <Slartibartfast> Koordin, just try x-server freezing with bugs
[13:32] <kruger> hello . sombody is having problems conecting to scs.msg.yahoo.com ?
[13:32] <prince_jammys> AdvoWork: create a shell alias, or a gui shortcut that does 'xterm -e ssh user@ip'
[13:32] <xpavelx> !GC89
[13:33] <xpavelx> anyone can help me with GC89?
[13:33] <Koordin> ko thanks Slartibartfast i'll try
[13:33] <toresn> how do i change the terminal resolution?
[13:33] <xpavelx> !log
[13:33] <jaysonsantos> Where can I talk about gtk development ?
[13:33] <xomp> Can someone please help me with Remote Desktop Viewer in Intrepid? It's not working like it should according to all the Google HOW-TO's I've been reading.
[13:34] <xpavelx> need help lspci.. i can see my device is there. but i dont know where is it installed to. /dev/ttyS*
[13:34] <ValentineX> kruger: scs.msg.yahoo.com 404 error
[13:34] <AdvoWork> i keep doing Places > connect to server > creating a sftp link, each time i restart, it goes though, any ideas why?
[13:35] <jrib> jaysonsantos: #gtk+ on GIMPNet (there's a smaller freenode channel as well)
[13:36] <susscorfa> how long should mkfs.ext2 take on a harddisk that is maybe broken?
[13:36] <jaysonsantos> jrib> Thank you
[13:36] <kruger> valentine: scs.msg.yahoo.com 404 error ? i entered in console and write dig scs.msg.yahoo.com and the answare wos
[13:36] <kruger> ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode.
[13:36] <kruger> ;; Connection to 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) for scs.msg.yahoo.com failed: connection refused.
[13:37] <xpavelx> jrib can you help me with /dev/ttyS*
[13:37] <jrib> xpavelx: probably not
[13:37] <smallfoot-_> How do I increase the size of the swap of a Wubi installation?
[13:39] <ikonia> smallfoot-_: I don't think wubi actually creates partitions
[13:39] <smallfoot-_> ikonia, it creates a file called "swap.disk"
[13:39] <ikonia> smallfoot-_ so thats a file, not a partition
[13:39] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[13:39] <smallfoot-_> ikonia, i never said it was a partition
[13:39] <Rayman2200> hi there :)
[13:40] <Rayman2200> do someone know, how i can package sources from "apt-get sources"
[13:40] <scientes> will freezing a computer while it is running break it?
[13:40] <askdksdl> is ubuntu much faster and stable as a proper install than running on vmware? ive had so much bullshit running ubuntu on vmware for a week now, several reinstalls, it is quite slow etc
[13:41] <jrib> Rayman2200: um, those are already source packages.  Do you mean, how do you build and install them again?
[13:41] <CoRn_Laptop> i've got a file that can't be removed from the trashcan in GNOME, how do i force-delete it?
[13:41] <Rayman2200> yes, build from the source
[13:41] <Koordin> hi, i have here a very confusing problem : i've upgraded to 8.10 and now the display on my desktop is totally buggy : there are some black lines that appears every second everywhere on the screen ; my drivers are up-to-date (nvidia-glx-177) and i've already try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop or xserver-xorg ; could someone help me please ?
[13:41] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.local/share/Trash/         and then try the gui again
[13:41] <askdksdl> is ubuntu much faster and stable as a proper install than running on vmware? ive had so much bullshit running ubuntu on vmware for a week now, several reinstalls, it is quite slow etc
[13:41] <jrib> !source > Rayman2200
[13:41] <Nallep> dulak: ok thx
[13:42] <energY> askdksdl: Yes, what os are you running vmware on?
[13:42] <xpavelx> !serial_cs
[13:42] <AdvoWork> dulak,  and will that remember it?
[13:42] <AdvoWork> forever
[13:42] <Pici> !language | askdksdl
[13:42] <dulak> AdvoWork: it'll make the bookmark and that will be there till you delete it
[13:42] <poopuser> hi can someone give ma a link to GOOD bare bones banto install?
[13:42] <scientes> is it bad to put a computer in a freezing rooom, will  it break?
[13:43] <Rayman2200> jrib, big thx
[13:43] <energY> scientes: How cold?
[13:43] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, permission denied
[13:43] <blackgraz> man
[13:43] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, what exactly did that command do?
[13:43] <JuJuBee> How do I do a version upgrade on a remote copmuter via CLI?
[13:43] <SOURdiesel> scientes:  humidity will damage something
[13:43] <Guest36772> hi guys, I got some problem while booting ... My grub just leaves me with error 2
[13:43] <blackgraz> this guy is refusing to admit his slave HD is dead
[13:43] <scientes> prob never below 20 energY
[13:43] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: what exactly said "permission denied"?
[13:43] <scientes> but inside no not dew-humid
[13:43] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, when i tried to delete the file from the trash in the gui
[13:43] <blackgraz> its funny to watch him work over kvm-ip
[13:43] <energY> scientes: Then maybe, probably...
[13:43] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: press the "reload" button in nautilus
[13:44] <scientes> its a old computer so i care most about my data and my harddrive
[13:44] <Koordin> hi, i have here a very confusing problem : i've upgraded to 8.10 and now the display on my desktop is totally buggy : there are some black lines that appears every second everywhere on the screen ; my drivers are up-to-date (nvidia-glx-177) and i've already tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop or xserver-xorg ; could someone help me please ?
[13:44] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, still denies me
[13:44] <blackgraz> Koordin: you try using the non nvidia drvers?
[13:45] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: pastebin the output of: ls -lR ~/.local/share/Trash/
[13:45] <Andreica> are here anybody who has netbeans installed on Ubuntu ?
[13:45] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: that command was supposed to give your user ownership
[13:45] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: (the chown one)
[13:45] <ValentineX> Andreica: yes
[13:46] <Andreica> and how it works at your compuer?
[13:46] <fkling_> hi, how can I reinstall Ubuntu the easiest way? it sems the updates and some changes lead to some bugs so I want to do a reinstallation
[13:46] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1245863
[13:46] <Koordin> blackgraz: no ; how can i do that ?
[13:46] <ValentineX> Andreica: but i left it installed :) it works i have not used... was fine same as it worked at xp
[13:46] <scientes> why did my usb drive mount as root, how do i get it to mount as user automatically?
[13:46] <blackgraz> Koordin: umm
[13:46] <Andreica> I don't know why, but at my computer,on linux, it works very slow
[13:46] <Pulzer> if I installed ubuntu on a computer and then removed the gfx-card to save energy, would I still be able to use VNC/freeNX to view that computers gnome session?
[13:46] <blackgraz> Koordin: look in system. should be restricted drivers is what your looking for
[13:47] <energY> gtg
[13:47] <sercik> Pulzer: interesting question
[13:47] <sercik> i think that pc can't boot without gfx
[13:47] <blackgraz> lolz ata2: SRST failed (errno=-16)
[13:47] <sercik> the bios should not aloow boot
[13:47] <harvey> Hi can anyone help me ? This may seem ridiculous but i deleted my panel on my desktop on my desktop on 8.10 and because i just installed it i cant see the bottom panel,, who do i get the upper panel to reappear, it doesnt just by right clicking, if i cant fix it i have to reinstall the who thing again. Please help. :)
[13:47] <legend2440> CoRn_Laptop: try  sudo rm /home/jrtuvera/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[13:47] <blackgraz> LINK IS SLOW TO RESPOND!!!!
[13:48] <Pulzer> oh, thought that if i set the bios to not halt on everything but keyboard or what its called i could get past that
[13:48] <dlowe> harvey: you can't see the bottom panel because you just installed it?
[13:48] <sercik> Pulzer i think is not possible to do that... but first try if pc starts
[13:48] <testi> I'd like to use setfcaps
[13:48] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: sudo chmod -R u+w ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[13:48] <harvey> yes because the screen size is wrong, i cant change the res....
[13:48] <testi> Where can I get it for Ubuntu?
[13:49] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: erm, drop the sudo
[13:49] <JuJuBee> Anybody?  Version Upgrade via CLI remotely?
[13:49] <dlowe> harvey: are there any icons on your desktop?
[13:49] <jrib> !upgrade > JuJuBee
[13:49] <blackgraz> fun bots
[13:49] <JuJuBee> jrib : thanks for the link.
[13:49] <harvey> ah...but i just managed to pull the bottom to the top , so ive resolved it ...thanks all thanks dlowe, jeez
[13:50] <Ubuntu2038210382> how do I downgrade from 8.10 back to 8.04?
[13:50] <Pici> Ubuntu2038210382: Backup your data and install 8.04.
[13:50] <AdvoWork> hi, got an issue with firefox under ubuntu, you know you have titles, ie page number, page url and so on when you print, I cant get rid of it, ie it keeps resetting from BLANK each time??
[13:50] <sercik> i'm not able to visit 192.168.1.1.. is my modem connected to eth0. Help??
[13:50] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, the sudo rm ..../Trash/* command didn't work, says the file is a directory
[13:51] <CoRn_Laptop> rm -rf?
[13:51] <SOURdiesel> sercik: try 192.168.1.254
[13:51] <jrib> CoRn_Laptop: I never gave you such a command....
[13:51] <macpo3> try re-installing the 8.04 lts
[13:51] <IsUp> rm -rf ..../Trash/*
[13:51] <CoRn_Laptop> ahh
[13:51] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, ahh that was another user.
[13:51] <sercik> SOURdiesel I need 192.168.1.1 is the ip address of my modem and sometimes i need to configure it or watch statistics and logs
[13:52] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, anyways, i tried sudo rm -rf /home/jrtuvera/.local/share/Trash/* and that worked
[13:52] <CoRn_Laptop> jrib, thanks for the help
[13:52] <xpavelx> need help with gc89
[13:52] <SOURdiesel> sercik: ok.  so you've used 192.168.1.1 before as your router address?
[13:53] <Pici> xpavelx: And that is?
[13:53] <xpavelx> yes
[13:53] <sercik> SOURdiesel 192.168.1.1 is always my modem not router address it is static
[13:53] <JuJuBee> jrib : does it matter that I am trying to upgrade a workstation rather than a server?  Is CLI still OK?
[13:53] <sercik> and connected to eth0 interface
[13:53] <jrib> JuJuBee: yep
[13:53] <macpo3> sercik, that sounds like your modem private address, do you have a router between thye computer and the modemn?
[13:54] <JuJuBee> jrib : yep it matters or yep it is still OK?
[13:54] <SOURdiesel> sercik:  does your browser load webpahes?
[13:54] <scientes> why does everytime i set my ip manually my net not work? i set ip netmask and gateway and my dns is correctly setup
[13:54] <SOURdiesel> *webpages
[13:54] <xpavelx> i cant figure it out where is it.... i mean (/dev/ttySx)
[13:54] <jrib> JuJuBee: haha, sorry.  Yep, it's still ok
[13:54] <sercik> macpo3 the router is connected to a computer from which i need to visti it
[13:54] <Ubuntu2038210382> how do I downgrade back to 8.04?
[13:54] <sercik> sorry visit
[13:54] <JuJuBee> jrib : thanx
[13:54] <jrib> !downgrade | Ubuntu2038210382
[13:54] <bazhang> Ubuntu2038210382, reinstall
[13:54] <SOURdiesel> ﻿Ubuntu2038210382: pop in the CD and install
[13:54] <IsUp> Ubuntu2038210382: like Pici said, backup your data and install 8.04
[13:54] <macpo3> sercik normally a lan setup is computers - router - modem - broadband - isp - the internet
[13:55] <sercik> Ubuntu2038210382 please choose a nick
[13:55] <Ubuntu2038210382> but 8.10 is terribly slow
[13:55] <chadeldridge> Anyone else having issues copying to samba network shares, file transfer starts correctly and then hangs for a long time.   Network speed also seems to be going slow for gigabit
[13:55] <Ubuntu2038210382> 8.04 was flawless.
[13:55] <IsUp> and your nick terrible too
[13:55] <sercik> macpo3 are you smart with linux firewall rules??
[13:55] <Pici> !tab | IsUp sercik
[13:55] <macpo3> sercik not really
[13:55] <Vinno> How do you install apt-get package without installing others? i want to install Mutt but it includes it with a a email server, exim4 :(
[13:55] <xpavelx> pici, can you help me to find where is my gc89 is located? (/dev/ttySx)
[13:55] <IsUp> I am using TAB already?
[13:56] <Ubuntu_> Ok, so is this better.
[13:56] <Ubuntu_> ?
[13:56] <IsUp> yeah, really better
[13:56] <Pici> xpavelx: I don't know what gc89 is. Can you explain further?
[13:56] <Ubuntu_> now, coming back to the downgrade...
[13:56] <Linux_> i hate the CBL
[13:56] <xpavelx> its an edge modem
[13:56] <Ubuntu_> so there is no way to do that without losing data?
[13:56] <xpavelx> by Sony Ericsson
[13:56] <jrib> Ubuntu_: with backups
[13:57] <Pici> xpavelx: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?
[13:57] <LuisMi> Obama will standarize all Federal Office to OpenOffice ???
[13:57] <macpo3> sercik obviously things are working at some level as you can connect here :)
[13:57] <macpo3> anyway ... my problem
[13:57] <xpavelx> no Pici
[13:57] <bazhang> LuisMi, this is ubuntu support; please chat elsewhere
[13:57] <macpo3> oh, bleh, just realised I can't do that anyway
[13:58] <chadeldridge>  Anyone else having issues copying to samba network shares, file transfer starts correctly and then hangs for a long time.   Network speed also seems to be going slow for gigabit
[13:58] <Linux_> does anyone know how come i cant get on hack this site's IRC server?
[13:58] <xpavelx> pici visit http://erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html
[13:59] <jrib> Linux_: depends on your client
[13:59] <xpavelx> PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.1 (0000 -> 0001)
[13:59] <JuJuBee> Anybody have experience with NIS & NFS that wouldn't mind helping me?
[13:59] <xpavelx> ttyS14 at I/O 0x4000 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
[13:59] <Linux_> gaim
[13:59] <nodeboy_999> i'm trying to find someone who can give me some info on how apt-get prepares a new kernel is it a static image or does it get changed acording to something set on the system?
[13:59] <Ubuntu_> If I leave me system locked overnight and come back next morning, after entering my password and unlocking, the desktop doesn't get restored completely...
[13:59] <Ubuntu_> I just see the background and the mouse..nothing else.
[13:59] <jrib> Linux_: gaim?  What version of ubuntu?
[13:59] <Ubuntu_> this has happened only after the upgrade.
[13:59] <Linux_> idk the number
[13:59] <Pici> Linux_: I dont see how thats an Ubuntu support question.
[13:59] <Linux_> but i know the name
[13:59] <sercik> i'm able to visit 192.168.1.1 only if i stop the firewall service.. so my problem is an incorrect firewall configuration.. someone can help me??
[13:59] <JuJuBee> I am wondering if I can have one server manage the NIS logins and a different server for the NFS mounting of /home for my users?
[13:59] <Linux_> fiesty fawn
[13:59] <Ubuntu_> other than that, the system has been a little slow.
[13:59] <HDready> what is this... reinstalled xchat-gnome and now i dont join servers on startup? -.-*
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> HDready: is there a folder in your ~/ name .xchat or similar?
[14:00] <jrib> Linux_: feisty fawn is EOL, you should upgrade
[14:00] <Linux_> how?
[14:00] <apelgate> hello. what does it mean when a process is showing more thgan 100% cpu usage on "top" ? I thought 100% was the cpu usage limit.
[14:00] <jrib> !upgrade | Linux_
[14:00] <Pici> xpavelx: check 'dmesg' on a terminal after you plug in the device to see what device it gets associated to.
[14:00] <Linux_> ok
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Linux_
[14:00] <Myrtti> apelgate: you have more than one cpuu
[14:01] <apelgate> ah I understand
[14:01] <HDready> ActionParsnip: yes .xchat2
[14:01] <xpavelx> pici thanks
[14:01] <sercik> or you have a super cpu :)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> HDready: rename it to something new
[14:01] <apelgate> how can I check how many cpus are working on that machine, mynous ?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> HDready: then relaunch the app
[14:01] <Vandalism_dstryr> !linuxsucks
[14:01] <apelgate> ops it was Myrtti
[14:01] <legend2440> HDready: right click server name on left panel and choose Auto Connect on startup?
[14:02] <AdvoWork> hi there, i use these fonts Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif as a family, on windows it looks fine, on ubuntu it looks different, any ideas how to install the same fonts in ubuntu?
[14:02] <Andreica> on my computer,on linux,netbeans works very slow, i heard that i have to configure something at him to make it work normally, but i haven't idea what to do? have anybody the same problem?
[14:02] <ziroday> apelgate: you might want to use htop instead of top
[14:02] <apelgate> ok
[14:02] <chean> hello everyone
[14:02] <ziroday> AdvoWork: have you installed the msftcorefonts package?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | AdvoWork
[14:02] <scientes> how can i make the gui not start by default?
[14:02] <warddr> Hello, can anyone help me to run a program (PG_LLRNET, it's written for linux)?
[14:02] <aj_4u> /server irc.datacave.co.uk
[14:02] <Ubuntu_> any idea, how soon is the next patch for 8.10 going to come out fixing the most common issues?
[14:02] <chean> i am a newer
[14:02] <scientes> just remove the Sxxgdm launchers in the rc. files?
[14:02] <sercik> i'm able to visit 192.168.1.1 only if i stop the firewall service.. so my problem is an incorrect firewall configuration.. someone can help me??
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> warddr: whats the program named?
[14:03] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: there are no "patches" for non-lts releases, you have to wait till jaunty or get a normal update
[14:03] <BuFF> bye all
[14:03] <astor-brazil> someone has problems with evolution ? Mine doesn't start anymore
[14:03] <AdvoWork> ziroday, yea ive installed them.. still doesnt look the same, the fonts are being picked up though I think from that package
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> astor-brazil: run it from terminal, you will get intelligent outputs
[14:03] <HDready> ok now it works... but thats strange.. why no auto-reconnect after reinstall?
[14:03] <ziroday> AdvoWork: have you tried tweaking the settings in System > Preferences > Appearance > Fonts?
[14:03] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: so how do I get a normal update for 8.10
[14:03] <Ubuntu_> >
[14:03] <Ubuntu_> ?
[14:03] <chean> >
[14:03] <ziroday> astor-brazil: can you start it at the terminal and see what it says
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> HDready: probably a corrupt profile in ~/
[14:04] <AdvoWork> ziroday, yeah theyre now set to the same as windows, it just still doesnt look right, and things are expanding over a page width
[14:04] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: through the update manager, if you have an internet connection it will appear in the top right and tell you when there are updates.
[14:04] <HDready> ActionParsnip: na i used the solution with rightclick and connect on startup >_> .... yes i know i failed
[14:04] <ziroday> AdvoWork: is this in all applications or on in writer?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> HDready: well you know whats going on now so you won :D
[14:04] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: I got a kernel update which I installed.
[14:04] <astor-brazil> ActionParsnip, ziroday: I run, they say me this errors: http://pastebin.com/fa5decfb
[14:04] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: okay
[14:05] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: 8.10 has got several issues (see the forums)
[14:05] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: I understand that
[14:05] <Linux_> im going to update
[14:05] <Ubuntu_> What I am trying to find out is if there is going to be a patch soon on those?
[14:05] <Linux_> good thing im sick
[14:05] <Ubuntu_> 8.04 was fantastic
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> astor-brazil: ok go find out what that error means
[14:05] <Ubuntu_> but I regret that I upgraded to 8.10 so soon.
[14:05] <HDready> not really ActionParsnip ;) but it's ok when it keeps on working^^
[14:05] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: possibly, possibly not. The best thing to do is track or report a bug regarding your issue
[14:05] <Linux_> because this would suck to have to be at school while upgrading my os
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: then reinstall hardy
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> HDready: its better to learn whats going on
[14:06] <Ubuntu_> ActionParsnip: I guess that is what it leaves me to.
[14:06] <SOURdiesel> can i run compiz with an onboard ATI HD 3300
[14:06] <HDready> ;)
[14:06] <rabe> hello everyone...
[14:06] <MnemonicPunk> Woa. How did you get the nick Ubuntu? xD
[14:06] <Linux_> will this replace my fiesty fawn distro?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: reinstall from clean then restore your data from backup
[14:06] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: yes
[14:06] <rabe> .
[14:06] <ziroday> Linux_: yes
[14:06] <Linux_> good
[14:06] <SOURdiesel> ziroday:  sweet.  thanks.
[14:06] <ziroday> rabe: do you have a question we can help you with :)
[14:06] <Linux_> cause i have very limited HDD space
[14:07] <Linux_> and also, will it come with java?
[14:07] <gregor_> who is the webmaster of http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/ ?
[14:07] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: make sure you have the restricted drivers installed from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers though
[14:07] <Ubuntu_> ActionParsnip: I upgraded to 8.10 because it is easy to upgrade to OpenOffice 3.0 from the repositories.
[14:07] <rabe> thank you - yes, a lot of questions
[14:07] <rabe> ...
[14:07] <ziroday> gregor_: ask in #ubuntu-website
[14:07] <Ubuntu_> that was my primary requirement
[14:07] <warddr> can anyone help me to install LLRNET?
[14:07] <SOURdiesel> ziroday: i do.
[14:07] <warddr> I get a couple of errors
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> gregor_: its an ubuntu site so its canonicals
[14:07] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: is back he is nice person
[14:07] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: you can update to OO.O3 in hardy as well
[14:08] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: then you're good to go :)
[14:08] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: I heard that the upgrade is not available via package manager.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> warddr: sudo apt-get install llrnet
[14:08] <SOURdiesel> ziroday: i was having display issues with 9.10  i did a clean install of 8.04 and loaded the ati accelerator driver.  now my graphics are better than before.
[14:08] <Ubuntu_> is there a link that you can share on the process?
[14:08] <SOURdiesel> oops 8.10
[14:08] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: nope, you have to use an externel repo
[14:08] <Pici> gregor_: #ubuntu-quality should be able to help you with anything with the qa.ubuntu.com sites
[14:09] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: awesome
[14:09] <MnemonicPunk> Anyone here who can tell me how to get the AWN mail checker applet working? It doesn't get my messages. =(
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !llrnet
[14:09] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: is that a risk?
[14:09] <Linux_> how many gigabytes is gutsy gibbon?
[14:09] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: yes
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !find llr
[14:09] <chadeldridge>  Anyone else having issues copying to samba network shares, file transfer starts correctly and then hangs for a long time.   Network speed also seems to be going slow for gigabit
[14:09] <warddr> ActionParsnip, doesn't exists
[14:09] <ziroday> MnemonicPunk: you might want to ask in #awn as well
[14:09] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: so what is the other method?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Linux_: about 2 for a stock install, if you are updatig it will overwrite the packages you have with updated ones
[14:09] <Linux_> ok
[14:09] <Linux_> so the same?
[14:10] <rabe> there is a problem with WINE - no sound possible...
[14:10] <MnemonicPunk> ziroday: True. =) But as I already was here anyway, I thought I'd give it a shot. :D
[14:10] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: through an externel repo. one sec
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Linux_: yeah pretty much
[14:10] <xomp> Remote Desktop Viewer is not working in Intrepid. Can someone help me?
[14:10] <Linux_> cause i only have 2.5 gbs left
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Linux_: thats sufficient
[14:10] <Pulzer> chadeldridge: you have both computers connected to internet via a switch? my isp had disabled network sharing so had to use an internal network for that
[14:10] <Linux_> good
[14:10] <warddr> ActionParsnip, it is a free programm, I'll give you the link:  http://primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=872 , second post
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Linux_: you could sudo apt-get clean to clear out old installed debs
[14:10] <Linux_> i stole the HDD out of my old computer
[14:10] <MnemonicPunk> chadeldridge: I had those problems on 8.04 when trying to copy stuff to a Vista network share, thought it was Vista, though.
[14:10] <ziroday> MnemonicPunk: not saying you can't ask here, you will probably get better answers in #awn though
[14:10] <rabe> has anyone some experience?
[14:10] <chadeldridge> MnemonicPunk: this is going to a windows 2003 server
[14:10] <Linux_> what does deb mean?
[14:11] <cabrini> debian?
[14:11] <Linux_> does it mean like distributions?
[14:11] <ziroday> !deb | Linux_
[14:11] <Linux_> thanks
[14:11] <MnemonicPunk> chadeldridge: Let me check that. I have a Win Server 2003 VM here. Sec.
[14:11] <ziroday> Ubuntu_: see here to get openoffice.org 3 https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> warddr: read the README file in the zip file
[14:11] <Linux_> i thought you were using a different term for distro
[14:11] <sercik> i'm able to visit 192.168.1.1 only if i stop the firewall service.. so my problem is an incorrect firewall configuration.. someone can help me??
[14:11] <MnemonicPunk> chadeldridge: From 8.10 to Win Server share, right?
[14:11] <chadeldridge> MnemonicPunk: yes :-D
[14:12] <chadeldridge> MnemonicPunk: i am starting to think it may be some issue with my network card driver or something
[14:12] <warddr> ActionParsnip, the only thing I find there is :   * Released under GNU LIBRARY GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
[14:12] <warddr>  * (See file LICENSE that must be included with this software)
[14:12] <JuJuBee> Anybody notice any issues with nfs-kernel-server?  Mine seems to hang up every once in a while and I need to restart server.
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> warddr: as is most linux software
[14:12] <Lukian> Trying to compile the ubuntu .27 kernel gives this error: ERROR: "ivtv_reset_ir_gpio" [ubuntu/lirc/lirc_pvr150/lirc_pvr150.ko] undefined!
[14:12] <warddr> ActionParsnip, I know but it doesn't work for this one
[14:12] <gunnarahlberg> I'm having trouble with my upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and the new nm-vpn
[14:12] <Lukian> What module/feature is that?
[14:12] <MnemonicPunk> chadeldridge: Have you tried wiresharking the transfer or sniffing for errors any other way?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> warddr: why not, just obey gpl standard licensing and you are fine to use it
[14:13] <gunnarahlberg> whenever I get a proper connection, the dns lookup fail
[14:13] <chadeldridge> MnemonicPunk: was doing that as you asked .. lol
[14:13] <ziroday> Lukian: that is the infrared controller part
[14:13] <warddr> ActionParsnip, but I don't know how to use it
[14:13] <warddr> make llrner doesn't work, ./llrnet neither
[14:13] <MnemonicPunk> chadeldridge: Sorry it's gonna take a bit longer. Obviously W2k3 forgot that it was completely setup and insists to reinstall itself.
[14:13] <Lukian> ziroday, shouldn't disabling/not including "IrDA subsystem support" 'fix' that?
[14:14] <chadeldridge> MnemonicPunk: that doesnt supprise me :-D .. ill be around
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> warddr: looks like you gotta compile it
[14:14] <ziroday> Lukian: I believe so, however have never compiled my own kernel before
[14:14] <kinx> how do i remove Firefox shockwave flash?  it takes too much cpu when loading a flash website
[14:14] <warddr> and how do I do that?
[14:14] <warddr> ActionParsnip, make llrnet doesn't work
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> warddr: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> warddr: you can get it off your install cd
[14:15] <warddr> ActionParsnip, is already installed
[14:15] <Lukian> ziroday, it didn't :( Perhaps there's a driver module in here somewhere.. was hoping someone knew where it was, so I don't have to go through every menu again :(
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> warddr: then follow this lot
[14:15] <benedikt_> Hi. I am planning to dploy a number of ubuntu workstations in a windows Active Directory enviroment. I have set up winbind and kerberos, but that ersults in the users having to type "Domain\username" in gdm.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !compile | warddr
[14:15] <benedikt_> Is there any way of getting a "domain choose" like in SUSE, or simply make GDM pop up with the gdm part already in place?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> benedikt_: i thought that was standard
[14:15] <zamba> one of my CMS -require- php4.. how can i install this on ubuntu?
[14:16] <SOURdiesel> what do i need to install to run compiz in (hardy), compiz fusion icon and desktop effects?
[14:16] <benedikt_> ActionParsnip: what was standard?
[14:16] <benedikt_> Doesnt look like it
[14:16] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: its all preinstalled, all you need to do is go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Desktop Effects
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> benedikt_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794374
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> benedikt_: i always type my domain name\username when i login
[14:17] <SOURdiesel> six!
[14:17] <SOURdiesel> oops
[14:17] <benedikt_> ActionParsnip: for me, its not a problem. But i want to make it is easy as possibel for the users.
[14:17] <SOURdiesel> sic!
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> mind you im a member of about 9 domains
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> benedikt_: that link should help
[14:18] <Lukian> ziroday, ah! think I found it under  "Ubuntu Supplied Third-Party Device Drivers"
[14:18] <benedikt_> ActionParsnip: ill try it. i used the likewise stuff to join the domain.
[14:18] <benedikt_> Thanks a lot.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> np
[14:19] <SOURdiesel> ziroday:  how do i bring up the cube effect?
[14:19] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: you need to install ccsm
[14:19] <ziroday> !ccsm | SOURdiesel
[14:19] <SOURdiesel> ziroday:  nice.  thanks.
[14:20]  * ActionParsnip is going all out for eyecandy just for laughs today
[14:20] <MnemonicPunk> Ah, 8.10 only enables the button with simple-ccsm? Didn't know that, was already wondering why it won't show up. ^^
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> MnemonicPunk: you can run it from terminal instead, easier
[14:21] <zamba> i want to run both php4 and php5 on a server.. how can i do this in ubuntu? i see no packages for php4 in the repositories
[14:21] <Ubuntu_> ziroday: thanks.
[14:21] <ikonia> zamba not really a good idea
[14:21] <ikonia> zamba: apache only really likes one version loaded, it's quite an admin to seperate
[14:22] <MnemonicPunk> ActionParsnip: Yes. But today in school a classmate asked me how to get the button back. Being used to compiz-config for that, I told him he should install that and then wondered where the hell the button went. xD
[14:22] <Ubuntu_> bye
[14:22] <gunnarahlberg> I've got a dns issue with the vpn client in nm-applet
[14:23] <gunnarahlberg> when I connect using vpn, all some dns lookup fail
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> MnemonicPunk: id have shrugged, buttons are for girls
[14:24] <vasy> hi
[14:24] <vasy> all
[14:24] <MnemonicPunk> ActionParsnip: "Real men use a 9V battery and connect and disconnect it with a 9600 baud rate to emulate keyboard input!"
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> MnemonicPunk: oh definately
[14:25] <benedikt_> MnemonicPunk: keyboards use 5V
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> MnemonicPunk: i just find cli way faster than using silly menus
[14:26] <MnemonicPunk> benedikt_: Maybe. xD Don't know much about that, I'm more a software guy. :D
[14:26] <Guest14138> wow this chat glitched out on me
[14:26] <Guest14138> what the heck
[14:26] <elTigre> how can I deactivate compiz?
[14:26] <elTigre> it crashes every time I boot into gnome
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> eitreach: do you run kde or gnome?
[14:26] <elTigre> kde works, however
[14:26] <Guest14138> elTigre: you can try the" services "
[14:26] <MnemonicPunk> Guest14138: Yeh, Pidgin sometimes crashes with this channel.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> eitreach: kwin --replace or metacity --replace
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> eitreach: depending which desktop you are using
[14:26] <elTigre> Guest14138: now that was helpful...
[14:27] <vox> pidgin? unstable? surely you jest
[14:27] <Guest14138> and uncheck auto start
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> pidgin is inwincible
[14:27] <MnemonicPunk> ActionParsnip: For most things CLI is actually faster than menus, yes. But sometimes not. ^^
[14:27] <Guest14138> well i think i have to restart this IRC thingy again
[14:27] <elTigre> Guest14138: sorry I have not the least idea what you mean or how to do it. I don't have access to my gnome desktop because it crashes every time
[14:28] <Guest14138> do you have any other desktop available?
[14:28] <vox> add someone to yahoo/msn/aim/whatever in pidgin, and add an alias for them at the same time, and it crashes.
[14:28] <elTigre> kde
[14:28] <Guest14138> well personally i have only used gnome
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> eitreach: take it out of startup
[14:28] <Guest14138> but i think you can still take it out from kde
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[14:28] <apelgate> hi
[14:28] <apelgate> isn't dos2unix a part of the packages?
[14:29] <jrib> apelgate: tofrodos
[14:29] <Seaboy> does this error realted to hard drive : ﻿end-request: I/0 error, dev sda, sector 1244578 bus error ?
[14:29] <ziroday> damn
[14:29] <ziroday> woops sorry
[14:29] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: Possibly Try using fsck on the drive.
[14:30] <egoflux> anyone know what i have to edit to get my laptop to suspend when i close the lid?
[14:30] <hugh__> may i know how to speak to somebody on this channel?
[14:30] <MnemonicPunk> !justask | hugh__
[14:30] <legend2440> elTigre: can you get a command prompt?  if so type metacity --replace
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> legend2440: its a terminal :)
[14:30] <Guest14138> hugh__: what you mean?
[14:31] <Guest14138> hugh__: private im?
[14:31] <elTigre> legend2440: funny....
[14:31] <elTigre> legend2440: Gnome crashes on login
[14:31] <hugh__> guest14138 is speaking to me,
[14:31] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: I get this when I want to install some packages, and on the other hand I cannott login to my desktop, maybe these two problems relatted?
[14:31] <hugh__> how can i do that?
[14:31] <hugh__> i'm fresh on IRC
[14:31] <Guest14138> well right click on the person's nickname
[14:31] <Guest14138> and do send im
[14:31] <jrib> hugh__: just put the person's name in front of what you say.  Try:  jri<TAB>
[14:32] <Guest14138> that works too
[14:32] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: Can not login? Can you get more specific? From what you said now, there seems to be something wrong with your disk but you should provide more details. =)
[14:32] <Guest14138> elTigre: can you still login with KDE?
[14:33] <warddr> ActionParsnip, I always get errors when I try to make it
[14:33] <legend2440> elTigre: what i meant was if you boot into recovery mode then type  metacity --replace.  i think that disables compiz
[14:33] <hugh__> right click doesn't work  but  name plus tab works
[14:33] <egoflux> never mind...got it workin...
[14:33] <hugh__> tks a lot
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> warddr: then you need to troubleshoot them
[14:33] <asdsadsadasdsa> MY XCHAT keeps logging off after a few minutes'
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> warddr: you may need some extra libraries apt-getting
[14:33] <asdsadsadasdsa> with no good error-resonse, wtf!?
[14:33] <warddr> ActionParsnip, there are lot of .c files who arn't found
[14:33] <asdsadsadasdsa> is there another chatprogram tha ti can apt-get?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> asdsadsadasdsa: run xchat from terminal, you wil get intelligent output
[14:33] <Guest14138> hugh__: well i am using pidgin instead of other ones
[14:33] <asdsadsadasdsa> i do
[14:33] <asdsadsadasdsa> but with &
[14:33] <MnemonicPunk> legend2440: Yes it does but only for the moment. After reboot/logout+login it will be back to compiz. ^^
[14:34] <Guest14138> so i think that's why i can do right click on the user names
[14:34] <vegombrei> hi .. can someone please help me .. i need my computer to boot default with windows xp .. thing is ive installed ubuntu aswell but when the pc boots others dont usually wait around for the option screen and some of them are so daft they dont understand what to do .. so i need the machine to boot by default into windows xp .. is there a way to configure the mbr or the bootcamp or something ??
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> warddr: then you may need some -dev packages for the things it uses
[14:34] <jrib> vegombrei: are you on a mac?
[14:34] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: everything is ok until splash screen, but when I login, I just have the mouse pointer and a white screen, and nothing else
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default system to boot
[14:35] <elTigre> legend2440: your logic is faulted, hehe. "Failsafe" mode uses compiz and crashes, but if it wouldn't, I wouldn't need to run metacity --replace in the first place1
[14:35] <Guest14138> Seaboy: try restarting x server
[14:35] <hugh__> Guest14138, is what i'm doing right/
[14:35] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: Did you try fsck?
[14:35] <legend2440> MnemonicPunk: yes but if he can get it to boot into gnome or whatever then he can disable it in system>prefs>appearance
[14:35] <MnemonicPunk> !fsck > Seaboy
[14:35] <Guest14138> hugh__: mostly yes
[14:35] <heinrich_> *yawn*
[14:35] <Guest14138> hugh__: since i learned this from other people
[14:35] <MnemonicPunk> legend2440: Yes.
[14:35] <hugh__> btw, i'm using x-chat
[14:35] <warddr> ActionParsnip, and how do I know wich -dev packages?
[14:36] <Seaboy> ﻿﻿MnemonicPunk: ok I'll try, doesn't it related to graphic driver or something?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> warddr: websearching will tell you
[14:36] <Guest14138> hugh__: well i learned this thing from someone who is using x chat
[14:36] <Seaboy> ﻿Guest14138: I did it, but no changes
[14:36] <jxander> i want to get conky 1.6.1 for ubuntu 8.04.1. on launchpad.net i found conky 1.6.1 and a diff.gz and dsc... how do i apply the diff?
[14:36] <vegombrei> no .. this is a dell pc .. thing is it belongs to my g/f and she just cant be bothered with ubuntu and everytime she boots the pc she gets really pissed it boots ubuntu
[14:36] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: If it was graphics drivers, you would most likely see nothing.
[14:36] <legend2440> elTigre: if you press ESC at bootup and choose  Recovery it should boot to a command prompt. then type metacity --replace
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !info conky
[14:36] <Guest14138> Seaboy: well it much be the gnome panels again
[14:37] <Guest14138> Seaboy: this happened right after you did partial update right?
[14:37] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: how do i change it in that window ?? its got a lot of text in there is there a particular order ?
[14:37] <akahige> I've got a file system issue that I'm hoping to get some help with...  I have / and /var on separate file systems. I need to move /var onto / and I don't want to screw anything up.  Can anyone tell me how to do this...?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: you change it in linux as the boot part thing for grub will be in linux
[14:37] <elTigre> legend2440: but that isn't a permanent solution
[14:37] <Seaboy> ﻿Guest14138: no, not partial upgrade, I performed a clean install
[14:37] <Guest14138> weird
[14:38] <legend2440> elTigre: then if it boots to gnome you can disable compiz permanently
[14:38] <Guest14138> Seaboy: did you try to remove evolution?
[14:38] <localgod12> When I installed ubuntu I forgot to plug in one of my network adapters, is there a way to bring the second on online without a reinstall?
[14:38] <terrestre> vegombrei, sudo aptitude install kgrubeditor, that is a graphical editor
[14:38] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: true ... im in that window gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and its got a lot of text .. i donno what to do in there
[14:38] <Seaboy> ﻿Guest14138: I have this error in kubuntu
[14:39] <Guest14138> what error?
[14:39] <vegombrei> terrestre: installing ...
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: let me check mine
[14:39] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: ok cool
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: you should have a line that says default        0
[14:40] <philippe_> Hello. Is it possible to know what exactly is corrected when updates are available?
[14:40] <Pretto> is there any patch for  shutdown stopping in the halt?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: change that accordingly with which line should be default
[14:40] <Seaboy> ﻿Guest14138: I mean this problem, and in addition when I want to install something in console mode I have this error too : ﻿end-request: I/0 error, dev sda, sector 1244578 bus error
[14:41] <Guest14138> well i can't help with that
[14:41] <raheem> vegombrei: just note that the counting starts from 0, which means, the first line is 0
[14:41] <Guest14138> Seaboy: because last time i encountered that problem i was trying to uninstall evolution
[14:41] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: but dude when ubuntu updates it adds more lines in there ..
[14:41] <Rain7> ahem... I was wondering if anybody has ran Avogadro on 8.10, I get startup error, avogadro guys suggested I ask here.... I get some mesa lib error
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Seaboy: sound like your drive is maybe dying, boot to live cd, unmount all partitions and run fsck
[14:41] <Rain7> http://avogadro.openmolecules.net
[14:42] <Guest14138> Seaboy: and the other was the accidental partial upgrade
[14:42] <Phantomas> how can i add the guest session option at the login screen?
[14:42] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: xp is always the last option so the line number must always change
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: then you gotta change it after the update, or make the windows boot the top option
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: then you gotta manually change it each time
[14:42] <Seaboy> ﻿Guest14138: ok, thank you anyway
[14:42] <MnemonicPunk> vegombrei: You can also put it right before the "Automagic" stuff.
[14:43] <MnemonicPunk> vegombrei: The Ubuntu updater will only modify the lines marked as automagic. It clearly states where those start and end. =)
[14:44] <scientes> why is ntfs sooo slow?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> scientes: its proprietary
[14:44] <hsn> can someone tell me why i get these errors -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/
[14:45] <hsn> and how to fix them
[14:45] <derek_> Hi. How to start the Mobile Broadband connection that I set up ?
[14:45] <scientes> ActionParsnip, but samba is faster than smb
[14:45] <bazhang> any clue how to set keypress repeat to 'off' using lxde with ubuntu intrepid ibex? Can't seem to find a gui/control panel for that.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> scientes: thats an nfs
[14:46] <scientes> ya, protip:never run a vm from a ntfs drive
[14:46] <Andreica> where are saved packages in ubuntu?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> hsn: looks like you need the gpg keys of those servers
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> scientes: oh god no
[14:46] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i generate my xorg.conf, at the moment it is empty?
[14:46] <akahige> what do the UUID numbers in fstab mean?
[14:47] <chadeldridge> Pirate_Hunter: in 8.10 it basically is empty
[14:47] <MnemonicPunk> My VMs run fine from ntfs drives. o.O (Or do you mean nfs?)
[14:47] <scientes> my computer basically stopped, the ntfs driver just takes alot of cpu
[14:47] <vegombrei> i used the kgrubeditor .. it was a graphical version of grub editor .. i managed to make xp default in there .. i should reboot and see if it worked ... u think ill have to modify that everytime ubuntu updates aswell ??
[14:47] <jrib> akahige: they are how the system identifies your partitions
[14:47] <jrib> !uuid | akahige
[14:47] <Johnm> Pirate_Hunter: X -configure
[14:48] <Pirate_Hunter> chadeldridge, yes it is, it is empty
[14:48] <jrib> vegombrei: not if you did it right
[14:48] <ir1> creeping still glitched
[14:48] <MnemonicPunk> Pirate_Hunter: 8.10 doesn't need a complete xorg.conf anymore.
[14:48] <chadeldridge> Pirate_Hunter: in 8.10 its used very little unless you are using proprietary drivers and then it will have entries
[14:48] <ir1> hugh__: well this is annoying me now
[14:48] <MnemonicPunk> Pirate_Hunter: It will respect it though if you fill it with entries.
[14:49] <MaT-dg> how can I change the mount points?
[14:49] <ir1> well this is annoying me now
[14:49] <akahige> ubottu: I need to consolidate /var from a separate partition onto / but it looks to be more complicated than just copying it and editing fstab
[14:49] <ir1> still glitched out
[14:50] <doggymenz> anyone experienced getting the dust and dust-extras theme to work on intrepid?
[14:50] <jrib> akahige: you have a separate /var now?
[14:50] <sara9> hi
[14:50] <akahige> jrib: yes
[14:50] <doggymenz> hi
[14:50] <ir1> ubottu: well considering the fact that you can respond to messages it is pretty nice programming
[14:50] <jrib> akahige: so just copy it over and delete the line in fstab
[14:50] <sara9> wo bin ich ??
[14:50] <ir1> well considering the fact that you can respond to messages it is pretty nice programming ubottu
[14:51] <ir1> don't mind my weird nick this is a glitch caused by pidgin T.T
[14:51] <AdvoWork> ziroday, still here?
[14:51] <Pirate_Hunter> MnemonicPunk: will feel it since i am stuck with 960 x ... resolution
[14:51] <akahige> ﻿jrib: I know this is a dumb question, but how to you copy to a fs, since the directory tree is still going to look the same?
[14:51] <jacky> .
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ir1: pidgin runs great on all my pcs :)
[14:52] <jacky> yea pidgin is fun :P
[14:52] <ir1> ActionParsnip: well when i logged in it said i am log in as booksbuggy
[14:52] <MnemonicPunk> Pirate_Hunter: You should get the desired resolutions that way, yes. =)
[14:52] <ir1> <----- but now it shows this
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !nick | ir1
[14:52] <jrib> akahige: I would do this on a live cd.  Just mount the partition that is your / and the partition that is your /var.  Then copy the contents of the partition that is /var to /var in the partition that is /.  Does that make sense?
[14:53] <pisse> How do I setup the sound in firefox? I can't watch flash with sound..
[14:53] <ir1> and i can't change it back to booksbuggy withe the nick function
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> pisse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[14:54] <akahige> ﻿jrib: not exactly... I'm going to need to mount /var to some place that *isn't* /var in order to copy it *to* the new /var, right?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> pisse: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-July/001338.html
[14:54] <jrib> akahige: right.  On the live cd, you would mount the partition that is / to /media/root (or whatever) and the partition that is /var to /media/var (not /media/root/var as normally happens)
[14:55] <ValentineX> how to delete some application?
[14:55] <ValentineX> terimal command
[14:55] <jrib> ValentineX: how did you install it?
[14:55] <ValentineX> terminal command
[14:55] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i kill x so i can run command X -configure?
[14:55] <ValentineX> jrib: sudo apt-get install app
[14:55] <chadeldridge> ValentineX: what app ?
[14:55] <jrib> !apt > ValentineX
[14:55] <chadeldridge> ValentineX: sudo apt-get remove app
[14:55] <ValentineX> jrib: sudo apt-get removeall app?
[14:55] <chadeldridge> ValentineX: yes
[14:56] <chadeldridge> ValentineX: sudo apt-get remove app
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: i always logout then login to a terminal session in session type
[14:56] <killerboy> hello
[14:56] <chadeldridge> Pirate_Hunter: switch to another console and sudo killall gdm
[14:56] <xiangfu> ValentineX: suao apt-get remove ***
[14:56] <akahige> ﻿jrib: once I get it copied, then  I just delete the /var entry in fstab (or comment it out) and all should be good, right?
[14:56] <ValentineX> chadeldridge: jrib ActionParsnip xiangfu thanks
[14:56] <ir1> ValentineX: sudo apt-get remove "application name"
[14:56] <jrib> akahige: yep
[14:56] <ir1> without the quotation
[14:56] <ValentineX> ir1: ok
[14:56] <ir1> well that's that
[14:57]  * ActionParsnip takes a cookie
[14:57] <ir1> huh?
[14:57]  * jrib takes the last cookie
[14:57] <jrib> sorry ir1
[14:57] <akahige> ﻿jrib: once goodness is established, is there any reason I can't go into gparted and grow the / partition out to include the space from the old /var?
[14:57] <xomp> !cookie | ActionParsnip jrib
[14:57]  * MnemonicPunk deletes all cookies in a paranoia attack.
[14:57] <ir1> don't understand
[14:58] <jrib> akahige: sure, I'd make backups before modifying partitions though
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | ir1
[14:58] <Pirate_Hunter> chadeldridge, thanx, ActionParsnip that way doesnt work when you try to configure x
[14:58] <ir1> O.O
[14:58] <terrestre> jajaja
[14:58] <akahige> ﻿jrib: backups of everything or only the partitions that are being altered?
[14:58] <ir1> this chat is strange
[14:58] <terrestre> !beer | ActionParsnip
[14:58] <jrib> akahige: any data you care about (you should have it anyway)
[14:59] <MnemonicPunk> !botsnack | ActionParsnip
[14:59] <chadeldridge> Pirate_Hunter: not sure if this has changed or not but to reconfigure x it used to be:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:59] <Pici> !botabuse
[14:59] <akahige> ﻿jrib:   :-)  right you are!  thanks for the advice
[14:59] <ir1> hehe strange things
[14:59] <hanasaki> ssh says it is running on port 22 however I get connection refused.  like it didnt bind t the port.   what is going on?
[15:00] <MnemonicPunk> I really need a TB HD. =( Want to be able to do dd if=drive_i_wanna_backup of=file_on_giant_hd :D
[15:00] <ir1> well getting off for now
[15:00] <ir1> be back later
[15:00] <xiangfu> hanasaki: what is the error message?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: are toy running any firewall configs you have setup?
[15:01] <hanasaki> error msg is ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[15:01] <Qaldune> hi there
[15:01] <xiangfu> hi
[15:01] <koelie2> hi
[15:01] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip:  its an isolated box and just trying to ssh to localhost for now.  no firewall on it
[15:01] <Qaldune> anybody knows why firefox 3.0 (ubuntu intrepid ibex amd64) won't play audio on flash content?
[15:02] <Qaldune> has anybody had such a problem?
[15:02] <MnemonicPunk> hanasaki: Does ssh 127.0.0.1:22 work?
[15:02] <genii> hanasaki: You have installed openssh-server ?
[15:02] <ushimitsudoki> Is it possible to un-update? I would like to roll back to Hardy.
[15:02] <MnemonicPunk> (Yes, it makes a difference sometimes.)
[15:02] <hanasaki> xiangfu:  and ActionParsnip it worked befor ethe upgrade to intrepid
[15:02] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: not without a reinstall
[15:02] <hanasaki> genil yes.  and it was installed before the upgrade too
[15:02] <ushimitsudoki> chadeldridge: that is what i feared. thanks for the confirmation
[15:02] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: sorry it was not good news
[15:03] <hanasaki> MnemonicPunk: no.    telnet locahost 22 gives ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[15:03] <hanasaki>   Also
[15:03] <MnemonicPunk> Heh, so many people wanting to roll back. o.o
[15:03] <xiangfu> Qaldune: somebody just mentioned this :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: try sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[15:03] <ushimitsudoki> MnemonicPunk: yeah. don't want to be negative but 8.10 is looking like epic fail :( maybe 8.10.1 will cure my blues
[15:03] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip:  not aptitude?
[15:03] <MnemonicPunk> hanasaki: Yeh, I read that. But sometimes 127.0.0.1 works where localhost doesn't. That's why I asked. ^^
[15:03] <Qaldune> xiangfu: that doesn't have to do with my problem at all
[15:03] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: after performing fsck, I still have the error and also the white screen
[15:04] <chadeldridge> Maybe im in the minority but 8.10 has been really great for me, 1 issue with a flaky nvidia driver (that is getting fixed now) and this network speed issue are my only complaints, been pretty painless otherwise
[15:04] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: You had those errors after trying to upgrade, right?
[15:04] <localgod12> When I installed ubuntu I forgot to plug in one of my network adapters, is there a way to bring the second on online without a reinstall?
[15:04] <hanasaki> ah good pont MnemonicPunk nope that fails too
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: i always use apt-get
[15:05] <Qaldune> i'm sure that pulseaudio thing is troubling a lot of people
[15:05] <ushimitsudoki> chadeldridge: then I am jealous for you! :) I literally have a list of problems (as in working on my second blog posting cataloging things went wrong). sigh.
[15:05] <Pirate_Hunter> chadeldridge, sorry for the late reply that method dont work anymore but in a way i dont mind this way im more in control of my xorg which i have to thank arch for that
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: if you download fresh and reinstall the service it may work
[15:05] <xiangfu> localgod12: i think yes. you can give that a try.
[15:05] <MnemonicPunk> I actually like 8.10. It gave me headaches getting it installed but after that ir just... works. As Ubuntu is supposed to.
[15:05] <xomp> Horrido! ushimitsudoki I would like to view your blog afterwards :)
[15:05] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: what is going on, i can possibly help
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: as it will be from intrepid repos
[15:05] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip:  will that overwrite existing configs in /etc/ssh ?
[15:06] <Qaldune> xiangfu: it actually does, just missed a number in the link. thanks dude.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: back it up if you  want, just to be sure
[15:06] <ushimitsudoki> chadeldridge: well the "straw that broke the back" so to speak is the severe performance drop with nvidia drivers
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: sudo cp /etc/ssh /etc/ssh_old
[15:06] <kattollikisd> I can't see the metacity after I do a restart, can someone help me pleaces?
[15:06] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: 177.80 or 173?
[15:06] <ushimitsudoki> chadeldridge: 177.80
[15:06] <xomp> ushimitsudoki, don't feel bad, the same can be said about ATI as well, but that's to be expected.. It's ATI after all :)
[15:07] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: 177.80 is bugged for a lot of things for me, try going to 173 and see if the issue still exists
[15:07] <ushimitsudoki> chadeldridge: well, i'll give it a shot - haven't tried a diff driver
[15:07] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: My desktop suddenly changed to white, and in that moment I wasn't upgrading and just copyingg a disc, to silve the problem I tried to install some packages in console mode and got this error
[15:07] <MnemonicPunk> The driver stuff sucks, yes. I'm glad it doesn't affect me, after all I have a nvidia card. xD
[15:07] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: you will see new nvidia drivers soon as i understand
[15:07] <hanasaki> after the reinstall of ssh.. still no work
[15:07] <ushimitsudoki> xomp: yes but i went from ~120FPS to ~14FPS! wowzers that's a hard pill to swallow
[15:08] <Seaboy> ﻿ushimitsudoki: silve+solve
[15:08] <xomp> ushimitsudoki, ouch, indeed! I can't watch any videos after the upgrade. Things get all stuttery and things blink inside the video all weird like lol. You have 1up'd mario here :)
[15:09] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: Seems like something is wrong with your disk somehow, since the I/O errors and the white screen seem to be related.
[15:09] <chadeldridge> ushimitsudoki: im going to a meeting for 10 mins .. brb, let me know if that helps you at all
[15:09] <ushimitsudoki> chadeldridge: thanks man will do
[15:09] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: fsck didn't turn up with any errors at all?
[15:09] <kneeki> Any ideas why I have to enable my 2nd monitor after every boot? It seems like my XServer settings are not being saved even though I'm clicking 'Save to X Config file' in the nvidia settings
[15:09] <russell> I installed ubuntu as a program in vista. I did not give ubuntu a partition: how can I give the "program ubuntu" access to more disk space?
[15:09] <localgod12> xiangfu: How? can you point me in the right direction?
[15:10] <kink459> i am having problems with my sound in 8.10. Whenever I try to change the volume with my hotkeys or the osd nothing happens its just really loud. I used to fix this by selecting the PCM in the sounds panel but Master is the only option there. Any ideas? BTW my audio controller is a Sigmatel STAC9750
[15:10] <hsn> i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937
[15:10] <hsn> help plz :\
[15:10] <elementz> how can i display the size of a folder (or multiple folders) and their contents?
[15:10] <elementz> ^ on a shell i mean!
[15:11] <doktoreas> hello everybody, is it possible that if i log in trough ssh using putty some env variables are missing?
[15:11] <doktoreas> if I log using ssh -l all is fine
[15:11] <apelgate> how can use netstat to monitor the how do I know if a xeon processor is 32 or 64 bit?
[15:11] <russell> I installed ubuntu as a program in vista. I did not give ubuntu a partition: how can I give the "program ubuntu" access to more disk space?
[15:12] <MnemonicPunk> russell: You could mount the ubuntu image and copy it to a bigger image file, for example. But that is not too easy so you should be comfortable with the command line for that.
[15:12] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: it found something and ask if If I want it to fix and I answered yes; after finishing again I performed fsck and some error remained again
[15:12] <apelgate> how can use netstat to monitor the how do I know if a xeon processor is 32 or 64 bit?
[15:12] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: Can you paste that error for me? Maybe I can tell you what it means.
[15:12] <apelgate> ops
[15:12] <apelgate> how do I know if a xeon processor is 32 or 64 bit?
[15:12] <hsn> i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937     someone help me fix it please
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[15:13] <GaMbi_DK> My system is trashed.. gonna do a reinstall.. running 8.04 atm! Should I go for 8.10? 32 or 64 bit? my CPU is 64 :)
[15:13] <xiangfu> localgod12: is there a /dev/eth1 ?  when you plug the network adapter
[15:13] <chadeldridge> GaMbi_DK: how much mem you ahve ?
[15:13] <GaMbi_DK> chadeldridge, 4gig
[15:13] <hanasaki> all after the reinstall of ssh /etc/init.d/ssh is GONE
[15:13] <chadeldridge> GaMbi_DK: i would go 32 then
[15:14] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: how can I do it, I can do that in console mode and now I'm in live mode
[15:14] <hsn> i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937     someone help me fix it please
[15:14] <saxofoner> is anyone using darkroom?
[15:14] <GaMbi_DK> chadeldridge, how come? do I need more ram for 64?
[15:14] <MnemonicPunk> russell: Hm. Sorry, can't think of an easier way right now (although there probably is one ^^)
[15:14] <russell> How can I save all my ubuntu setting to usb?
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> could someone provide me  a site that gives monitor refresh rates, im trying to find hori & vert rate for a relisys TL766-RU monitor?
 thx m8,keep thinking :)
[15:14] <genii> russell: From a livecd, or a regular disk install?
[15:14] <chadeldridge> GaMbi_DK: 32bit will only see up to 3.something gb of memory if you have more than 4 64 is better, but 4 or below 32 is better imo
[15:15] <saxofoner> If someone is using DarkRoom theme, please respond
[15:15] <russell> genii: I installed ubuntu as a program in vista
[15:15] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: You can make any program output into a file as opposed to the screen by adding >> filename.txt after the command
[15:15] <chadeldridge> saxofoner: i am whats up
[15:15] <genii> russell: Ah, so Wubi
[15:15] <saxofoner> chadeldridge: thanks mate, if you run ccsm, do you get white text on white?
[15:15] <saxofoner> I can't find the settings to change that
[15:15] <russell> genii: what is Wibi, is that nooby?
[15:15] <chadeldridge> saxofoner: let me see
[15:16] <genii> russell: No, Wubi is the Windows installer for Ubuntu
[15:16] <GaMbi_DK> chadeldridge, okay :) anyways.. is it worht upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10? (fresh install ofc.)
[15:16] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: For example 'sudo fsck -a /dev/sda1 >> error.txt' would run fsck for /dev/sda1, fixing all errors and outputting all text into error.txt that it would normally print to the screen
[15:16] <apelgate> how do I see the ubuntu version?
[15:16] <chadeldridge> saxofoner: no its great with me
[15:16] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: and it'll be saved in home folder?
[15:16] <saxofoner> chadeldridge: hm... I've got some issues then.  thank you.
[15:16] <russell> Oh yeah, I saw that
[15:16] <chadeldridge> GaMbi_DK: i would say so, but i have had a good 8.10 experience, others have not
[15:16] <al__> quit
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[15:16] <FloodBot3> al__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <genii> russell: At any rate, you can see the !clone factoid from the bot to duplicate your list of installed packages and put that on a usb stick or so
[15:17] <al__> quit
[15:17] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: In your case the line would be 'sudo fsck -a /dev/sda >> ~/error.txt'
[15:17] <al__> exit
[15:17] <Sirious_Toast> hello, can anyone tell me how i can get permission to paste a folder in my .home folder?
[15:17] <al__> leave
[15:17] <Pici> al__: /quit
[15:17] <chadeldridge> saxofoner: hey wait
[15:17] <Pici> al__: or just close your window
[15:17] <genii> russell: Then you usually also want to to copy the /etc directory for your settings
[15:17] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: The ~/ is short for "current users home dir"
[15:17] <saxofoner> yes?
[15:17] <chadeldridge> saxofoner: you mean the main screen .. yes its white with brown text
[15:17] <chadeldridge> saxofoner: i thought you ment the title bars
[15:17] <GaMbi_DK> chadeldridge, nvidia or ati on your machine? 32 or 64? :)
[15:17] <chadeldridge> GaMbi_DK: nvidia x32
[15:17] <saxofoner> chadeldridge: ah.  thanks.  yeah, see that's in the Input Box section, itshould be black on white.  I'm fooling with the settings.
[15:18] <DefunctProcess> nyone know how to get dvd autoplay working on hardy heron?
[15:18] <nicodemo_> hello
[15:18] <kink459> i am having problems with my sound in 8.10. Whenever I try to change the volume with my hotkeys or the osd nothing happens its just really loud. I used to fix this by selecting the PCM in the sounds panel but Master is the only option there. Any ideas? BTW my audio controller is a Sigmatel STAC9750
[15:18] <russell> genii: thx ;)
[15:18] <genii> russell: You're welcome
[15:18] <MnemonicPunk> !keys > kink459
[15:19] <saxofoner> chadeldridge: ccsm doesn't seem to obey the theme settings
[15:19] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: thanks, be right back in some minutes
[15:19] <localgod12> xiangfu: nope
[15:21] <GaMbi_DK> chadeldridge, thx man :)
[15:21] <kink459> MnemonicPunk: No the keys works its just the sound. The sound panel used to have like 9 options for what tracks to control. I used to have to select master and PCM to get my sound volume under control but now there is only one option, master.
[15:21] <Sirious_Toast> hello, can anyone tell me how i can get permission to paste a folder in my .home folder?
[15:21] <someone537> sirious toast, just do it thru terminal and use sudo
[15:21] <interware> hey :)
[15:22] <makario> Hey, I want to try something different. Instead of upgrading Ubuntu to 8.10, I want to do a reinstall. What should I back up besides my /home directory? For example, I run a LAMP server and /var/www probably needs to be backe dup
[15:22] <MnemonicPunk> kink459: Can you activate the others under settings?
[15:22] <hanasaki> what package contains /usr/bin/ssh
[15:22] <Pirate_Hunter> could someone provide me  a site that gives monitor refresh rates, im trying to find hori & vert rate for a relisys TL766-RU monitor?
[15:22] <Jetts> makario: backup /etc
[15:22] <marshall> how do i get network manager to just connect to my wireless network when i login rather than waiting for my admin password?
[15:22] <Pici> hanasaki: openssh-client
[15:23] <kink459> MnemonicPunk: do you mean the sound panel in preferences?
[15:23] <chadeldridge> marshall: add network configuration to allow for your username in the System - Admin - authorizations panel
[15:23] <MnemonicPunk> kink459: Yes.
[15:23] <makario> Jetts: Anything else?
[15:23] <ymca> Hey , i just installed my Ibex 8.10 and its all works fine ! but i have no sound at all !! can you please help me get my sound working ?
[15:23] <Abracadabra> hi
[15:23] <nikitis> Question:  I have 8.10 now upgraded from 8.04. Update manager keeps saying i have 2 distribution upgrades for mencoder and mplayer.  It will not let me check them to upgrade them,  Anyone know why?
[15:24] <marshall> chadeldridge, ok
[15:24] <kink459> MnemonicPunk: Nope all I have is master right under default mixer tracks
[15:24] <chadeldridge> marshall: its under network-manager-settings - system - Modify system connections
[15:24] <Al1_> I just dl Dolphin for linux but it wont run, can anyone help?
[15:24] <MnemonicPunk> kink459: Wait. I mean the volume settings. When you doubleclick the speaker in the tray, you get a volume controller window. That one has a settings button on the bottom.
[15:24] <ikonia> Al1_ dolphin ?
[15:24] <Abracadabra> what is the best way to setup Ubuntu so people can remote connect to it, each with their own little environment, in order to work together on a DB (for eg)
[15:25] <Al1_> dolphin the GC emu
[15:25] <ikonia> Abracadabra ssh into it and use the database
[15:25] <MnemonicPunk> kink459: When you click that button, a window pops up with multiple options you can enable/disable for volume control. Are the ones you want available there?
[15:25] <ikonia> Abracadabra everyone works in their home directory
[15:25] <Abracadabra> any similar way with a GUI aswell ?
[15:25] <makario> Al1_ What's the file name you downloaded?
[15:25] <ikonia> Abracadabra gdm does offer a remote login
[15:26] <ymca> Hey , i just installed my Ibex 8.10 and its all works fine ! but i have no sound at all !! can you please help me get my sound working ?
[15:26] <Al1_> It was a package off of http://www.ngemu.com/gc/ called dolphin svn r1005 (Linux)
[15:26] <Abracadabra> is gdm hard to setup ?
[15:26] <Frijolie> how can you tell what packages are contained in a metapackage?
[15:27] <Neulix> # ubuntu-de
[15:27] <Neulix> #ubuntu-de
[15:27] <Pici> Neulix: /join #ubuntu-de
[15:27] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: apt-cache show metapackagename   is one way
[15:27] <Neulix> thx
[15:27] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: When you're using synaptic it's really easy. Just right-click the package and check what it depends on.
[15:27] <ymca> can any one please help me on a sound issue?
[15:27] <Frijolie> prinnce_jammys: thanks I'll try that one
[15:27] <Frijolie> MnemonicPunk: a GUI way...cool
[15:27] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: Metapackages don't really have "content", they only depend on certain packages.
[15:28] <kink459> MnemonicPunk: huh, never knew that mixer existed but how do i make the master and pcm change with each other?
[15:28] <Frijolie> MnemonicPunk: ah, so a metapackage is more like a "script" to get the other packages they depend on?
[15:28] <hsn> i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937     someone help me fix it please
[15:28] <makario> Al1_ What's the file extension?
[15:28] <LjL> Frijolie: it's simply an empty package that merely lists dependencies
[15:28] <LjL> it's not a script
[15:29] <makario> Al1_ (The last three letters of the file after the dot)
[15:29] <Qaldune> firefox is unable to play any sound in 8.10 amd64. any idea?
[15:29] <Al1_> lol they dont have one but when i checked it in properties it said x-executable
[15:29] <makario> Al1_ Never mind, I'm downloading it now.
[15:29] <Frijolie> LjL: I didn't mean it literally, i'm trying to conceptually understand it.
[15:29] <makario> Al1_ Right-click the file, go to permissions, and make sure you can execute the file
[15:30] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: since the dependencies have to be satisfied, they all get installed.
[15:30] <Al1_> ok
[15:30] <makario> Al1_ Right-click > Properties, I mean.
[15:30] <X4D> I'm having a hard time understanding samba, when I do a smbpasswd to add a new user and have manually edited the smb.conf and added the shares I can't log on with the password I set but instead with the servers account password, the users are the same in samba and the server, but the passwords I set are different. Should the passwords be the same ?
[15:30] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: ok, that's making sense
[15:30] <Al1_> ye
[15:30] <Al1_> i can
[15:30] <cousteau> is there a way to make Firefox emulate an Internet Explorer, Safari, cellphone, etc... so a page thinks I'm using one of them?
[15:30] <rahmen> Qaldune: I got the same problem on my intel.. there are much info on google about 64 vs 32bit.. first thing I'd do is to start the update manager and download any new packages..
[15:30] <HorizonXP> hey, on Ubuntu Server, how can I change the repo server that's used? my current one is really slow/loaded
[15:30] <makario> cousteau: The User Agent Switcher extension
[15:30] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: Basically it's an empty package. But for example the firefox package depends on all packages that are part of firefox (binaries, branding, language files etc...). That way, it will install all the packages to satisfy the dependancies.
[15:30] <IsUp> cousteau: you can try a addon for changing User Agent string
[15:30] <kitche> cousteau: agent-changer extension it works sometimes other times it doesn't
[15:31] <Qaldune> rahmen: i got it all updated
[15:31] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: for example if you do 'apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop', all the packages that get installed will show up as dependencies. installing 'ubuntu-desktop' then causes all those packages to be installed
[15:31] <LjL> Frijolie: well, conceptually it's not a script, because there is no list of actions that it can arbitrarily perform (which is the concept of a "script"). it simply is a normal package, but it's empty. since any normal package has a list of dependencies (which are automatically handled by APT in all cases), a metapackage allows creating "collections" of related packages to be installed in one move.
[15:31] <Qaldune> rahman: did you manage to fix it?
[15:31] <IsUp> or just use Proxomitron (tiny local proxy server) and hide your agent :p
[15:31] <Pavlz> hello
[15:31] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: It's important that you know the difference when you want to "uninstall" a metapackage, since that will NOT remove the packages it depends on.
[15:31] <cousteau> ok, thanks (another way is to change the about:config options "general.useragent.*"; but I didn't know how)
[15:31] <rahmen> Qaldune: ok, even if you press "Check" ? I had loads of updates to download.. haven't fixed it yet.. but I'm updating all stuff now so I guess I'll reboot and try it out :]
[15:32] <ymca> Can any one help me on a sound issue ??
[15:32] <mike-burns> Wireless networking question: it doesn't work. "Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter" doesn't reliably work with ath5k. I think I'm doing it wrong, though. Any suggestions on how I can debug this?
[15:32] <makario> Al1_ Double-click it and run
[15:32] <Pavlz> i bought a siemens pcmcia cardbus siemens gigaset pc card 108 is an theros 5212 on 802.11g
[15:33] <rahmen> ymca: what's the issue?
[15:33] <Al1_> ok
[15:33] <Frijolie> MnemonicPunk: it wont say "the following packages are installed and no longer needed" or whatever that message is?
[15:33] <Pavlz> i did lspci | grep Ethernet
[15:33] <Al1_> it doesnt
[15:33] <Al1_> lol
[15:33] <Al1_> i double click and nothing
[15:33] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: It might. You just can't rely on that.
[15:33] <Pavlz> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)
[15:33] <makario> Al1_ Hold on. It's not done downloading (it's slow for some reason. :S)
[15:33] <Al1_> that was sort of the point :S
[15:33] <subdolus> how can i like 'cat' a text-file and just take the last line from it and put that line into another textfile?
[15:33] <makario> Al1_ Sorry.
[15:33] <Frijolie> LjL: so it's an empty shell that tells apt that it needs to install this list of associated packages?
[15:33] <Al1_> np lol
[15:34] <Al1_> thanks for helping me out
[15:34] <trontonic> subdolus: tail -1 FILENAME > NEWFILE
[15:34] <eitreach> I can't access my external harddrive and change the permissions. How would I do that?
[15:34] <subdolus> ahhh there _IS_ a switch for tail. cheers trontonic!
[15:34] <trontonic> subdolus: or tail -1 filename >> existing file
[15:34] <subdolus> yup, got it. cheers mate
[15:34] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: If you install the firefox meta package and then install a language pack for your language, it will depend on some of the firefox packages and therefore not mark them as "no longer needed".
[15:34] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: that even shows the package maintainers and other information which could be useful
[15:34] <trontonic> subdolus: yes :) also, tail --help can be helpful
[15:34] <Pavlz> it blinks, desire to etablish a connection to my network, infact it see the ESSID, when i says to go in internet nothin happen ?
[15:35] <sidewalk> can i use the cube as a screensaver?
[15:35] <ymca>  Hey , i just installed my Ibex 8.10 and its all works fine ! but i have no sound at all !! can you please help me get my sound working ?
[15:35] <trontonic> ymca: have you turned up the volume?
[15:35] <hanasaki> what isthe {u} in some package names?
[15:35] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: yes. look into apt-cache, dpkg, and dpkg-query for ways to obtain detailed (and specific to your needs) information about packages
[15:35] <Frijolie> MnemonicPunk: I have noticed that some other packages try to uninstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[15:35] <Qaldune> ymca double click on the sound icon upper right corner, turn all volume up
[15:36] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: though that's also done by the gui front-ends
[15:36] <MnemonicPunk> Frijolie: In that example apt would only see "Oh, the language pack still requires this and that package, they are still needed". Even if you remove the meta package.
[15:36] <ymca> yes i just did but no sound
[15:36] <ymca> all volumes are up..
[15:36] <trontonic> hanasaki: "to be upgraded", I think
[15:36] <subdolus> trontonic: well, short of crontab'ing a 'tail <apachelog>' command every second, whats the best way to print the visitors IP address in a txt file as an index for www/apache
[15:36] <rahmen> ymca: do as Qualdune said and also turn off "Analog/Digital Output Jack" in switches in the same volume control
[15:36] <legend2440> ymca: open system>preferences>sound to the test sounds work?
[15:36] <apelgate> how do I see the ubuntu version?
[15:37] <subdolus> so you visit lol.com and it just prints the visitors IP
[15:37] <rahmen> ymca: what soundcard do you have?
[15:37] <ymca> no its not working :(
[15:37] <MnemonicPunk> subdolus: You can use PHP for that, for example.
[15:37] <legend2440> ymca: try changing Autodetect to alsa
[15:37] <ymca> aplay -l makes : card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CMI9880 [CMI9880]
[15:37] <trontonic> subdolus: hm, you could try "tail -f logfile >> someotherfile", but I'm not entirely sure if it would work. tail -f continually outputs lines as they are added
[15:38] <X4D> do samba users that match with the servers user accounts have to use the same password ?
[15:38] <rahmen> ymca: in System -> Preferences -> Sound change to alsa or ICH and test until you find something that works..
[15:39] <hanasaki> trontonic: how to i get them to get updated?  did apt-get upgrade
[15:39] <apelgate> how do I see the linux version?
[15:39] <ymca> i tried every in the list nothing seems to works
[15:39] <bazhang> !version | apelgate
[15:39] <hsn> i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937     someone help me fix it please
[15:39] <egoflux> what issue?
[15:39] <MnemonicPunk> hanasaki: 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' will ensure all your packages are up to date.
[15:39] <trontonic> hanasaki: This should ugrade your system: aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:39] <hanasaki> thanks
[15:39] <subdolus> MnemonicPunk: I'm no good with PHP... is there something out there already used for this?
[15:39] <rahmen> ymca: ok, in terminal, write alsamixer and turn up all volumes there too
[15:40] <bigfatredguy> How can I reinstall a corrupted bootloader?
[15:40] <Seaboy> MnemonicPunk: I could't do that, when I type sudo fsck -a /dev/sda/ >> error.txt it just say drive is busy or somethink, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67947/
[15:40] <hanasaki> what is upgrade vs safe-upgrade
[15:40] <hsn> can someone help me?
[15:40] <trontonic> hanasaki: "safe-upgrade" is replacing "upgrade" for some strange reason. I use synaptic.
[15:40] <makario> Al1 Double-clicking the Dolphin executable works for me.
[15:41] <trontonic> hsn: just ask your question and someone might now the answer :)
[15:41] <ymca> done , still i cannot seems to hear anything
[15:41] <hsn> i did.. around 4 times
[15:41] <Qaldune> rahmen: i updated a kernel update i just had ready, changed all sound setting to OSS reboot and now it's working
[15:41] <hanasaki> trontonic:  thanks.. i am only console here for now so no synaptic
[15:41] <hsn> i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937     someone help me fix it please
[15:41] <trontonic> hanasaki: np :)
[15:41] <prince_jammys> hanasaki: check 'man aptitude' for a description of safe-upgrade
[15:41] <makario> Al1_ Double-clicking the Dolphin executable works for me. Try running it in a terminal to figure out the problme.
[15:41] <akahig1> I downloaded the 8.10 ISO and was gonna check out the Live CD, but instead of a desktop, it boots to a BusyBox shell... did I get the wrong ISO or is there something I'm missing?
[15:41] <hanasaki> thanks prince_jammys
[15:42] <trontonic> hsn: then you could try a forum, or ask again
[15:42] <hanasaki> hmm still have packages with {u} but upgrade didnt upgrade anything.. whats up w/ that?
[15:42] <MnemonicPunk> Seaboy: Then you should boot from the liveCD for that. Make sure you copy the textlog somewhere on your HD or a USB stick afterwards so it doesn't get lost when rebooting!
[15:42] <rahmen> Qaldune: I'll try it out
[15:42] <hsn> trontonic: i was getting this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/ and when i tried to fix it using gpg --keyserver
[15:42] <hsn> hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -   i got this -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937     someone help me fix it please
[15:42] <e-frame> i've upgrade my kernel today and found broadcom STA driver. now i'm using b43 driver for my BCM4311. should I replace b43 wireless driver with the new broadcom STA driver ?
[15:43] <trontonic> hsn: what is your goal with all that?
[15:43] <MnemonicPunk> subdolus: You can do "<?PHP echo(shell(YOUR_SHELL_COMMAND_HERE)); ?>
[15:43] <rahmen> ymca: I'm not sure I can help you.. if you hang around in here you'll prolly get help by someone better than me :P try google and find someone with the same problem as you
[15:43] <hsn> trontonic: goal?
[15:43] <Seaboy> ﻿MnemonicPunk: no, it isn't lost, it doesn't perform the command,
[15:43] <trontonic> hanasaki: then I'm not sure. It's nothing to worry about, though. Upgrade upgrades all you need.
[15:43] <ocs>  hi. suppose that I have myscript.sh.   How can i retrieve, inside the script itself, the directory where the script is located ?
[15:43] <trontonic> hsn: yes, is your goal to install a specific application?
[15:43] <hsn> trontonic: i just want to fix it because everytime i update, i get that message
[15:43] <legend2440> !sound | ymca
[15:43] <oto> no body seen toto ?
[15:43] <subdolus> MnemonicPunk: jesus. I don't like the idea of that
[15:43] <l3d> If I was wo install windoze back on another partition will I need to fix grub and if so how
[15:43] <trontonic> hsn: then you can remove the offending line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:44] <eitreach> I can't access my external harddrive and change the permissions. How would I do that?
[15:44] <prince_jammys> ocs: very difficult to do properly. go to #bash and type '/msg greybot faq location'
[15:44] <subdolus> but cheers for the ideas
[15:44] <e-frame> !wireless
[15:44] <MnemonicPunk> subdolus: That will output everything that you'd normally see in the console when running that command. (For example a tail on your apache log, if that's what you want.)
[15:44] <grizzancs> !grub | l3d
[15:44] <hsn> trontonic: can't i fix it?
[15:44] <grizzancs> (i like this bot)
[15:44] <hsn> trontonic: if i remove the line, the problem will still be there
[15:44] <MnemonicPunk> subdolus: I don't like it either, just trying to find a quick one-liner for that. ^^
[15:44] <trontonic> hsn: yes, but see, when you add repos that need keys, they often give you the full instructions on their webpage. Find that webpage and your issue is solved.
[15:44] <johnfg> Hi folks.
[15:45] <trontonic> hsn: it seems to me like you followed half of the instructions and then need help for the other half, which is only written down on the page where you originally found those instructions. It's hard for people here to know where that could have been.
[15:45] <hsn> trontonic: umm, how do i do that? i'm new to ubuntu
[15:45] <e-frame> i'm using b43 driver for my BCM4311. should I replace my installed b43 wireless driver with the new broadcom STA driver ?
[15:45] <johnfg> I'm running an Asus Z9000, with 1 gb of memory, and lots of hard drive space.  It runs fedora, debian, win xp pro, etc.
[15:45] <hsn> trontonic: someone from irc helped me, but i think he left or is away
[15:46] <johnfg> However, after a no problem install of ubuntu 8.10 server, I get this error message when it tries to boot:
[15:46] <trontonic> hsn: Okay, so you did a fresh install of Intrepid and then suddenly you got that message at apt upgrade?
[15:46] <rahmen> Qaldune: didn't work out.. what do you have in Firefox: Edit -> Preferences?
[15:46] <Hideme> is there a GUI app for configuing two monitors?
[15:46] <hsn> trontonic: ye
[15:46] <hsn> s
[15:46] <Qaldune> rahmen: i did nothing in there
[15:46] <thiebaude> !xrandr
[15:46] <johnfg> This kernel requires the following features not present in the cpu: pae.
[15:46] <trontonic> hsn: So the guy that helped you didn't cause any changes to your system?
[15:46] <Qaldune> rahmen: system->preferences->sound
[15:46] <bigfatredguy> Can I reinstall a corrupted bootloader? Does anyone know how?
[15:46] <jerbear> i've seen conflicting recommendations regarding this... do i need to set the fsck flag in fstab for luks partitions?
[15:46] <rahmen> Qaldune: ok.. so what do you have in "Flash video" and "Shackwave Flash file" ?
[15:47] <e-frame> !wireless > e-frame
[15:47] <rahmen> Qaldune: yeah I changed stuff in there but didn't work.. just want to know if we have the same settings in firefox
[15:47] <trontonic> hsn: You are contradicting yourself now. It's hard to find the error when I get two messages at the same time. Is it a clean system or a system that has been messed with?
[15:47] <MnemonicPunk> !grub | bigfatredguy
[15:47] <johnfg> I don't get the error with debian etch or lenny; ubuntu desktop.  Why am I getting it with server?
[15:47] <slacker_nl> !wireless > slacker_nl
[15:48] <Qaldune> rahmen: "Use Shockwave Flash (in firefox)" or something like that. I use spanish version
[15:48] <hsn> trontonic: yep, nothing happened, and i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/67937 when i typed  gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[15:48] <trontonic> hsn: if you look in /etc/apt, you'll probably find a backup of sources.list that you can use
[15:49] <johnfg> Any thoughts on that boot error message from server?
[15:49] <Neaai> Ok, I have completed a reinstall of winXP in my dualboot system. I can boot with the cd and all needed is reinstall grub again but I forgot how to do that. Any suggestions?
[15:49] <NicEXE> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit on my other PC... I am prompted to choose where to install it... I have a HHD that is half NTFS partitioned and half unallocated. What should I choose in order to install ubuntu to the unallocated space?
[15:49] <trontonic> hsn: so, the situation now is that you 1. Installed Ubuntu, 2. Got help from a random guy, 3. That help broke your system and 4. We need to find out what broke. Right?
[15:49] <ikonia> !grub > Neaai
[15:49] <Neaai> ubuntu is still there untouched
[15:49] <rahmen> Qaldune: ok, I had it set to movie player.. changing that and restarting with OSS in Sound preferences..
[15:49] <MnemonicPunk> johnfg: What was the message? It's hard to follow you when you describe your problem in multiple lines. ^^
[15:49] <DaemonLee> Aight! Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. O.o
[15:49] <Neaai> ikonia: thanks
[15:49] <johnfg> There is a second error message: Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[15:50] <ikonia> johnfg: is that virtual box/
[15:50] <johnfg> ikonia, Nope.
[15:50] <ikonia> johnfg: what cpu do you have ?
[15:50] <MnemonicPunk> johnfg: Did you install x64 version on a 32 bit system maybe?
[15:50] <hsn> trontonic: no. thats what i'm trying to say. the guy helped me but nothing changed. my system is exactly the same way it was before the help.
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[15:50] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. O.o
[15:51] <trontonic> hsn: ah. Okay, so what was the problem in the first place? :)
[15:51] <hsn> trontonic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/
[15:51] <ikonia> johnfg: apologies, muted you by accident
[15:51] <NicEXE> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit on my other PC... I am prompted to choose where to install it... I have a HHD that is half NTFS partitioned and half unallocated. What should I choose in order to install ubuntu to the unallocated space?
[15:51] <johnfg> Here's the first error: This kernel requires the following features not present in the CPU : pae.
[15:51] <hsn> trontonic: i got that whenever i check for updates
[15:51] <ikonia> johnfg what cpu do you have ?
[15:51] <johnfg> It's a pentium M 686.
[15:51] <trontonic> hsn: what happens if you start Synaptic and then change to another mirror?
[15:51] <johnfg> Do you want the speed and all that?
[15:51] <ikonia> johnfg: what is the name of the CD image you are installing from
[15:52] <hsn> trontonic: huh?
[15:52] <trontonic> hsn: System->Administration->Synaptic
[15:52] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. Nothing is errored in my boot log. Help? :'(
[15:52] <johnfg> ubuntu-8.10-server-i386.iso is what I'm installing.
[15:52] <trontonic> hsn: then Settings->Archive
[15:52] <ikonia> johnfg: why are you using the server image ?
[15:52] <Lukian> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/303361/Hardware.Drivers.After.Compiling.a.kernel.png <- rofl.
[15:52] <trontonic> hsn: then on the list of mirrors, choose "other"
[15:52] <heyhey> does anyone know how to set the power management for nics in ubuntu?
[15:53] <johnfg> ikonia, I do a lot of server things: lamp, mail, ftp, etc.
[15:53] <ikonia> johnfg that is a common issue on vbox due to the way the cpu is emmulated against the server kernel
[15:53] <ikonia> johnfg you can do all that on teh desktop version that is a bit more setup for home user kit
[15:53] <johnfg> I didn't expect the ubuntu server image to be that different from debian's.
[15:53] <ikonia> johnfg it is
[15:53] <johnfg> And debian installs flawlessly.
[15:53] <mike-burns> I've installed a few kernels, one of which I think was over the default kernel. How can I restore back to the original kernel?
[15:54] <hsn> trontonic: there is no archive option under settings
[15:54] <johnfg> ikonia, So, even though pae is not listed as one of the minimum requirements, is it?
[15:55] <ikonia> johnfg: I don't know if pae is a requiment, but it certainly could be for the server kernel
[15:55] <trontonic> hsn: I have Norwegian text so I don't know what the english word is.
[15:55] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: If the system is still running you can just 'apt-get remove kernelname && apt-get install kernelname'
[15:55] <hsn> trontonic: oh, i'll check them all out. just a sec
[15:55] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Thanks.
[15:55] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Oh wait
[15:55] <heyhey> Question! does anyone know how to set the power management for nics in ubuntu?
[15:55] <johnfg> OK, I really wanted to give it a try.  It's not like I have no other choice.  Any caveats for desktop 8.10?
[15:55] <ikonia> heyhey: that depends on the drivers
[15:56] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: How do I get a list of kernels I've installed?
[15:56] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Make sure you don't let it remove packages that depend on it!
[15:56] <Pici> johnfg: Read the release notes.
[15:56] <ikonia> johnfg: shouldn't be, as long as you've got 256 of ram, it should boot fine
[15:56] <heyhey> ikonica they are vm virtual drivers
[15:56] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: How do I do that? --force-all or something?
[15:56] <nemo> Hm. After that last kernel update, my machine froze up twice and was unresponsive to magic sysrq
[15:56] <nemo> back to .24 I guess
[15:56] <ikonia> heyhey: I don't think they support power managment
[15:56] <hsn> trontonic: theres preferences, repositories and filters
[15:56]  * nemo pokes around for already reported bugs
[15:56] <ikonia> heyhey: bridging will force them to be up all the time
[15:56] <trontonic> hsn: settings -> repositories
[15:56] <johnfg> Pici, I did read the specs, and reqs.  What specifically are you thinking of.  What did I miss?
[15:56] <trontonic> hsn: I started it with english text just to check :)
[15:57] <zitune> hi all
[15:57] <heyhey> ikonica: i have bridged them but after about an hour of inactivity the ubuntu box times out
[15:57] <hsn> trontonic: thx, now what?
[15:57] <trontonic> hsn: then where you see "Download from", you can click the list, then select "other"
[15:57] <zitune> is there something strange with last kernel update
[15:57] <ikonia> heyhey is it a wirless nic by any chance
[15:57] <hsn> trontonic: done
[15:57] <marcel> hey guys can you help me, why did musicovery.com dont work with ubuntu 8.10 firefox 3.03 and flash 10 playerẞ any idea
[15:57] <trontonic> hsn: then click the "select best server" button
[15:57] <heyhey> (ikonia): nope :P
[15:58] <trontonic> hsn: now, if the plan works out, the problem will be fixed and your upgrades/updates will go quicker than before
[15:58] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: You can at least view all installed kernel packages (and some more since my grep isn't perfect) with this command: dpkg -l | grep -i linux-
[15:58] <zitune> i just safe upgrade and : no more network neither wifi or ethernet
[15:58] <hsn> trontonic: o thx, it's testing it now
[15:58] <minoru_> Brasil?
[15:58] <johnfg> Pici, What did you think I'd find in the release notes about this?
[15:59] <ikonia> heyhey: which interface is going down, the physical nic, or the bridge
[15:59] <SOURdiesel> i'm audio 5000
[15:59] <heyhey> bridge
[15:59] <nachi_> hello all! hey, how can i know if my installed ubuntu is 64 bit or i386?... ... thanks!
[15:59] <heyhey> (ikonia): the bridge
[15:59] <ikonia> nachi_ uname -a
[15:59] <ikonia> heyhey what happens if you try to bring the bridge up ?
[15:59] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Is there a way for me to tell which are the packages that came with Ubuntu, and which are ones I've installed?
[15:59] <eitreach> I can only use my external drive with my main user, but cannot change permissions with that or root. What am I doing wrong?
[15:59] <heyhey> i dont know how?
[15:59] <Pici> johnfg: Sorry, lost my connection.  8.10 does not include support for older nvidia cards.
[15:59] <ikonia> heyhey what virtual technology are you using (vmware/vbox/kvm/etc)
[15:59] <heyhey> vmware
[15:59] <nachi_> its x86 64
[16:00] <nachi_> its  64 bit i guess?
[16:00] <dudy> which one should I prefer ? Criterions : Performance, stability, flexibility... Sendmail, Postfix, Exim ?
[16:00] <ikonia> heyhey: no idea from within vmware, you may want to check #vmware out for that
[16:00] <nashk> How would I know which version of ubuntu server I"m running?
[16:00] <ikonia> nachi_: sounds good
[16:00] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: There is probably one, I just don't know it. xD
[16:00] <ikonia> nashk: uname -a
[16:00] <ikonia> nashk: what does it say
[16:00] <nashk> uname only show linux kernel version
[16:00] <nachi_> lol common question :P
[16:00] <Pici> johnfg: I mean restricted driver support, so 3d acceleration.
[16:00] <ikonia> nashk: you can work it out from that, or use lsb_release -a
[16:00] <trontonic> mike-burns: /var/log/apt/term.log might help you out
[16:00] <ikonia> nashk: what does uname -a show
[16:00] <heyhey> (ikonia): how would i do it in ubuntu normally?
[16:00] <nachi_> Linux  2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Thu Oct 30 04:12:22 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:00] <nachi_> its 64 right?
[16:01] <nashk> ikonia: Ah great, lsb_release worked fine.
[16:01] <ikonia> heyhey: its nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:01] <ikonia> nashk: tyup and 8.10
[16:01] <ikonia> nashk: yes and 8.10
[16:01] <nachi_> ok.. tnx
[16:01] <genii> eitreach: /dev drive names are made by udev system at boot and always revert back to root user. The common way is to make a directory on the drive and then make it belong to the user who will be needing it
[16:01] <nemo> so, just wondering. anyone else having problems with this .27 release?
[16:01] <zitune> nobody with network error since last kernel update (update arount 3PM)
[16:01] <ikonia> nachsorry, that was meant for you
[16:01] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: You're looking for the kernel name that is running on your system at this moment, right?
[16:01] <johnfg> Pici, Thanks for the suggestion, but I haven't any trouble with that before, running debian etch, lenny, fedora, etc., etc., or ubuntu desktop 8.04.
[16:01] <ikonia> johnfg: server kernels are not tuned for home hardware
[16:02] <ikonia> johnfg: pemtium-m normally in laptops
[16:02] <marcel> hey guys, why i cant click anything on musicovery.comẞ flash player is installed
[16:02] <ikonia> pentium even
[16:02] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: If that is the case, ikonia just mentioned the solution for that: uname -a
[16:02] <eitreach> genii: I need to make it usable by everyone. I can't do that.
[16:02] <johnfg> Pici, I'm looking at the release notes but don't find anything having to do with this pae problem.
[16:03] <johnfg> ikonia, You nailed it.
[16:03] <genii> eitreach: A folder with rights something like 755 then
[16:03] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. Nothing is errored in my boot log. Help? :'(
[16:03] <aaron__> can someone answer to me why linux remains doing things from config files?  I ask this in terms of is there an idea behind this that is part of tradition or because gui configs take time and cause more problems then there worth..I would appreciate being directed to the right channel and apologize if this is the wrong channel...still learning the culture
[16:03] <ikonia> johnfg: server version = a no no in my opinion (just personal opinion)
[16:03] <legend2440>  mike-burns   in terminal type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages  it will create a file called my-packages that lists all the packages you have installed
[16:03] <eitreach> genii: I can't change permissions for a folder either.
[16:03] <nemo> aaron__: you can wrap a gui around a config file pretty trivially, and it is frequently done
[16:03] <ikonia> aaron__: join ##linjux
[16:03] <ikonia> aaron__: join ##linux
[16:03] <nemo> aaron__: ubuntu does a lot of this in particular
[16:04] <nemo> aaron__: you can't so easily unpack a binary hive
[16:04] <nemo> in a text editor
[16:04] <trontonic> legend2440: nice one
[16:04] <johnfg> So, debian got tuned for the worse, imho, for ubuntu 8.10 server.
[16:04] <genii> eitreach: You have some fstab entry for this drive? If so please pastebin it for examination
[16:04] <ikonia> johnfg: thats debatable - it's only my opinion
[16:04] <hsn> trontonic: ok now i did that, some got fixed but there's 1 still left
[16:04] <trontonic> hsn: great, that's one step further. Now, in Synaptic, you can probably fix the last one...
[16:05] <hsn> trontonic: line 3 <-- http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/
[16:05] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Yes, I think that is what I want.
[16:05] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Seems to be 2.6.27-7-generic but I know it's different from the default.
[16:05] <johnfg> But, part of it's fact, in that debian installs, boot, and runs with no problem on this machine.  Ubuntu server won't even boot.
[16:05] <lu31415> hi all
[16:05] <eitreach> genii: There is no trace of it in fstab.
[16:05] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Alright, hang on.
[16:05] <ikonia> johnfg: just meants it's got more generic home pc features enabled inthe kernel
[16:05] <e-frame> update: about my question before, i've activated STA wireless driver & remove the b43-fwcutter, and voila, the wireless still works.
[16:05] <aaron__> nemo, well its not trivially done for most people that don't have a programming background...it can actually frustrate them...sendmail is a good example....I am taking the phase of learning the concepts behind a mail program then the phase of familiarizing myself with the config file and coming to terms with that sendmail is powerful but I should not shy away from spending lots of time in the config file
[16:05] <lu31415> how can I select my monitor model from a list in ubuntu?
[16:05] <minoru_> Who use Ubuntu 8,10 version here?
[16:06] <aaron__> ikonia, thanks  I will direct my questions there
[16:06] <genii> eitreach: What does command:   mount        report (only the line with the entry of that drive)
[16:06] <aaron__> join ##linux
[16:06] <hsn> trontonic: could you please tell me what to do next?
[16:06] <aaron__> ikonia, sorry seems I don't know how to join the channel
[16:06] <Vlet> I can not get php5-GD working on my apache install, and I suspect it is because I on on 64bit hardy; Is there something I can do to get it to work?
[16:06] <trontonic> hsn: hi, got a phone, back now
[16:06] <Vlet> aaron__: put a / in front of that command
[16:06] <Pici> !anyone | minoru_
[16:06] <mike-burns> aaron__: /join #linux
[16:06] <Hideme> I'm having a hell of a time with nvidia drivers in 8.10. Currently running in safe grax mode 800x600... how can I get back to atleast 1600x1200?
[16:06] <d--j> johnfg: .... ? there is 2.26.27 i debian ?
[16:06] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: One question: How exactly did you "accidentally install a kernel over yours"? Did you replace the file or install a wrong package?
[16:06] <johnfg> ikonia, Thanks.  I'm downloading 8.10 desktop to give that a try.
[16:07] <trontonic> hsn: yes, in Syantpic, in Settings -> Repositories
[16:07] <hsn> trontonic: yes, the final error is line 3 here --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67925/
[16:07] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile for the git kernel.
[16:07] <aaron__> mike-burns, thanks I will note this down so I don't ask it again :)
[16:07] <trontonic> hsn: there, you can click the tab for "Third-party software"
[16:07] <eitreach> genii: that command gives an error. cannot find report in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:07] <hsn> trontonic: ok then?
[16:07] <trontonic> hsn: then you can disable the repositories that causes trouble
[16:07] <genii> eitreach: just:      mount
[16:08] <hsn> trontonic: will that cause any problems? dont i need them?
[16:08] <trontonic> hsn: like packages.medibuntu.org
[16:08] <remoteCTR1> what was the name of the nvidia graphics configuration menu?
[16:08] <minoru_> ok obottu! :)
[16:08] <johnfg> d--j, I'm not in debian at the moment, so not sure which is the latest kernel there.  I'm running at present 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686
[16:08] <trontonic> hsn: then, after you have resolved your problems, you can add the repositories you should need in a better and error-free way
[16:08] <terrestre> johnfg, are you having trouble to boot 8.10? do you have connected any usb device?
[16:08] <eitreach> genii: /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[16:08] <d--j> johnfg: fedora 9 ?
[16:08] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Okay. Then open synaptic for this next step. (You can do it from the command line too, I just don't remember the parameters and think it's safer this way.)
[16:09] <hsn> trontonic: so i disable it, but how do i resolve the problem?
[16:09] <johnfg> terrestre, Yes, I have a usb dvd, a usb hd, keyboard, and I think that's it.
[16:09] <genii> eitreach: Ah, vfat
[16:09] <trontonic> hsn: it's only the repositories, it won't touch anything else on your system
[16:09] <johnfg> What's up?
[16:09] <ikonia> johnfg: try the desktop - see how you get on, I'd put a bet on it being the server kernel options
[16:09] <trontonic> hsn: so, if you disable them, the problem will be resolved
[16:09] <johnfg> d--j, And yes, i'm running F9.
[16:09] <eitreach> genii: Should I format it otherwise before I change permissions?
[16:09] <ikonia> johnfg: this is common in vbox due to how the virtual cpu is presented to vbox
[16:09] <hsn> trontonic: k will try
[16:09] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Once in Synaptic, find the package of the kernel you have, right-click and select "Mark for reinstall". Then click apply.
[16:09] <Skry^> remoteCTR1, nvidia-settings
[16:09] <Hideme> what can I use to bump up my monitor rez in 8.10?  currently only have 800x600 options.
[16:09] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Cool, reinstall. Great to know!
[16:10] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Don't remove it since that *may* take some other packages with it.
[16:10] <genii> eitreach: If you will not be needing it on a Windows box or something requiring vfat as file system, best is to use ext2 or ext3
[16:10] <johnfg> ikonia, Remember I'm not running ubuntu-server in vbox.
[16:10] <ikonia> johnfg no, but the problem is the same
[16:10] <remoteCTR1> Skry^: thanks i already thought i was going nut cos for some reason i cannot install that..
[16:10] <eitreach> genii: aye. I just may need it on Windows-boxes though.
[16:10] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: This way you canbe sure you'll replace the files with the original ones. =)
[16:10] <hsn> trontonic: thanks, it's fixed
[16:10] <ikonia> johnfg: the server kernel expects certain things from the cpu, due to what's enabled, hence why vbox causes an issue, and I'd expect the same from a legacy mobile laptop cpu
[16:10] <johnfg> OK, I'll try desktop.  Ciao, folks!
[16:10] <hsn> trontonic: have a nice day :) and thanks again
[16:10] <remoteCTR1> and now i know why, cos i have no ip-.-
[16:11] <genii> eitreach: OK. I'll try to find some mount options for you, give me a minute
[16:11] <terrestre> johnfg, if doesnt boot give a try disconnected some usb
[16:11] <trontonic> hsn: see, here's how it works: if you have some strange software, say you had a proprietary graphics software called HsnPaint, then you might want people to download it from your repository. So, you would make for instance http://hsnpaint.com/repository/ubuntu/blabla. Then, since Ubuntu is a bit clever, anyone adding that repository also needs to have a key, to make it just a bit safer. So, for each repository, there is at least on
[16:11] <trontonic> e line in /etc/apt/sources.list and also usually an key. It seems like you've got the repositories right, but not the key.
[16:11] <eitreach> genii: of course. your help is much appreciated.
[16:11] <johnfg> still odd to me that nothing else but ubuntu server, that I've tried, has the problem.
[16:11] <ikonia> johnfg: maybe ubuntu had the balls to say "disable home laptop kit - as it shouldn't be used as a server2
[16:11] <trontonic> hsn: now that you've removed the lines from the repository, the missing key is not longer a problem
[16:11] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: How about additional modules I've built? Will those be removed?
[16:12] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Also, apt-get install --reinstall
[16:12] <_Messer> Hi, i have just intalled ubuntu 8.10. New kde4 looks nice, but i want to disable "switch desktop" effect... where can i do that? Cannot find in system settings...
[16:12] <trontonic> hsn: so now you can trry adding both the repositories AND the key you want, in order to resolve the issue
[16:12] <johnfg> Not gentoo, not fedora, not debian, not solaris.
[16:12] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Alright. ^^ I didn't remember the parameter. :D
[16:12] <ikonia> johnfg well seeing as they don't provide a desktop and server release - that makes sense
[16:12] <hsn> trontonic: thanks, i did it and it's fixed :)
[16:12] <lu31415> I want to select my monitor from a list before logon, I did it a few times before, but I don't know how to bring up the list... can anyone help?
[16:12] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Compiled-in modules?
[16:13] <johnfg> ikonia, I know desktop will run alright, so have a great day, and I'll check back with you later.
[16:13] <jrib> johnfg: it's not really a "problem".  The kernel is just build so to support pae (afaict).  Just use the generic kernel instead of the server kernel
[16:13] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: When I built the new kernel, I added the ath5k module.
[16:13] <trontonic> hsn: so now, if there should be some software you lack, you can visit that webpage and follow the instructions there, then remember to add both key and repo, and it'll be added properly
[16:13] <trontonic> hsn: or just install the .deb-file, of course
[16:13] <johnfg> jrib, How can I get that at server install?
[16:13] <hsn> :D
[16:13] <hsn> thx
[16:13] <trontonic> hsn: as long as you get security updates, you aren't really missing anything
[16:13] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. Nothing is errored in my boot log. Help? :'(
[16:13] <eitreach> genii: brb, need to restart x
[16:14] <jrib> johnfg: do a minimal install and install whatever you want
[16:14] <ikonia> jrib then why bother using the server install if you are not using the server kernel
[16:14] <trontonic> hsn: :)
[16:14] <jrib> ikonia: exactly
[16:14] <ikonia> jrib: I see your thinking though
[16:14] <MnemonicPunk> What are the main differences between desktop kernel and server kernel? o.o
[16:14] <jrib> ikonia: the only issue with jumping to desktop is you get a bunch of gui stuff
[16:14] <ikonia> MnemonicPunk: one is aimed at enterprise kit - the other aimed at home user hardware
[16:14] <kneeki> Any ideas why I have to enable my 2nd monitor after every boot? It seems like my XServer settings are not being saved even though I'm clicking 'Save to X Config file' in the nvidia settings
[16:14] <ikonia> jrib 30 seconds to remove
[16:14] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Scheduler, mostly.
[16:14] <jrib> ikonia: true
[16:15] <trontonic> MnemonicPunk: the scheduler, I think. I think the server-kernel tries to divide processing power as evenly as possible, while the desktop kernel tries to give a slight advantage to what the user is actually doing
[16:15] <jrib> !minimal | johnfg
[16:15] <MnemonicPunk> mike-burns: Why would you want to compile a kernel for that? o.o Ubuntu kernel too old?
[16:15] <jrib> johnfg: either way (desktop or minimal) is a viable solution
[16:15] <MnemonicPunk> trontonic: Oh, okay.
[16:15] <_Messer> any ideas with this switch desktop effect..?
[16:15] <mike-burns> MnemonicPunk: Wireless doesn't work, so I threw everything at it, including building a fresh kernel.
[16:16] <MnemonicPunk> So the server kernel will be better with many tasks that require less power and the desktop kernel is more for bigger, resource intensive tasks?
[16:16] <ikonia> MnemonicPunk: no
[16:16] <MnemonicPunk> Hm.
[16:16] <ikonia> MnemonicPunk: why would a server kernel be better at things that require less resoruces ? servers / enterprise kit is Bigger than desktop
[16:17] <eitreach> genii: back.
[16:17] <MnemonicPunk> Hm. Makes sense.
[16:17] <MnemonicPunk> xD
[16:19] <nemo> !@#$ crashing with old kernels now too - probably related to the power outtage.
[16:19] <nemo> must've caused some disc damage.
[16:19] <nemo> now to figure out WTF is happening :(
[16:19] <ikonia> !wtf > nemo
[16:20] <nemo> ikonia: ok. that's absurd.  I'm fully aware freenode is family friendly. in fact, I choose my speech for that reason
[16:20] <ikonia> nemo: if your aware - please don't do it
[16:20] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. Nothing is errored in my boot log. Help? :'(
[16:20] <nemo> ikonia: in order to know what that !@#$ accronym means, you'd have to, well, know what it means
[16:20] <dp_> has anyone else found a fix for the 8.10 audio problem that seems rampant?
[16:20] <nemo> ikonia: i.e. - you're being foolish
[16:20] <ikonia> nemo: those are the channel policy
[16:20] <nemo> ikonia: I'm expressing my anger in a family friendly way
[16:20] <ikonia> nemo: this is not up for discussion in here, please accept the rules
[16:22] <YrreG> ciao
[16:22] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. Nothing is errored in my boot log. Help? :'(
[16:24] <mike-burns> Any idea which package installed /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic ?
[16:24] <YrreG> sapete dirmi come installare geforce 9600 gt
[16:24] <lianimator> My webcam works in cheese, but in skype, it's green and some weird images.
[16:25] <bazhang> !it | YrreG
[16:25] <dfgas> is alsa ever going to be fixed
[16:25] <nikitis> Can someone answer my question about why i have mencoder and mplayer left to update in updatemanager, but it's listed under dist-upgrade, and won't let me select them to upgrade?
[16:25] <devoda> Do you have the headphone mute issue also dfgas
[16:26] <YrreG> grazie ... ubottu
[16:26] <sven_> Hiya, I kinda need help with this Ubuntu setup.. I've upgraded this install to 8.10 from 8.04LTS.. somehow the "Properitary hardware driver" setup/activation program is not working. It's not activating the 173-version of the nvidia module. Nothing happends after it's "tried" to activate it.
[16:26] <dfgas> no, one thing using sound and that it, nothing else
[16:26] <nikitis> sven_, what video card are you running
[16:27] <nite_johnboy_> Hello - What would be the easiest application to use that I could change the size of a Wallpaper/Desktop I like - It is cut-of at the top & bottom and would like to change it to fit my desktop ? ?
[16:27] <nikitis> nite_johnboy_, gimp
[16:27] <sven_> nikitis, I believe it's an GeForce FX 5200
[16:27] <DaemonLee> sven_:  Do updates first.
[16:28] <sven_> DaemonLee, there aren't any upgrades available
[16:28] <nikitis> sven_, may be time to upgrade
[16:28] <|chiz|_> sven_: I had trouble with that card too
[16:28] <sven_> nikitis, maybe.. but it should still work dude :|
[16:28] <dp_> I'm getting no audio whatsoever
[16:28] <nikitis> sven_, lots of people are having trouble upgrading them
[16:28] <nite_johnboy_> nikitis: Thanks - will that be pretty straight forward to do or a little learning cure?
[16:28] <DaemonLee> sven_: do sudo apt-get update and then do updates.
[16:28] <|chiz|_> sven_: I just had to install the package nvidia-glx-173
[16:28] <sven_> |chiz|_, have you resolve the issue with it?
[16:28] <DaemonLee> That's how I fixed it.
[16:28] <DaemonLee> But, I installed 177
[16:28] <apelgate> how can I see info on the running processes?
[16:28] <|chiz|_> sven_: then my old xorg.conf worked
[16:28] <sven_> |chiz|_, DaemonLee: Alright - i'll try that then ;)
[16:29] <devoda> in the terminal type "ps -A"
[16:29] <apelgate> thx
[16:29] <apelgate> devoda: that didn't show me much
[16:29] <nikitis> nite_johnboy_, just open up the background in gimp, in the file menu of the image, select Image=> scale image and play around.
[16:29] <Kaigeos> could anyone recomend a good Newsreader similar to Forte's News Agent?
[16:29] <devoda> apelgate: it will show you the name of the process, but not an explanation
[16:30] <jbroome_> Kaigeos: I use pan or google's news reader
[16:30] <nikitis> sven_, do you know how to manually install them?
[16:30] <dayanandasaraswa> Hello friends..I need a sincere help..I want to write a C program to divert the network traffic through my program. I must receive the data, which i'll process and reinject into the normal networking stack.
[16:30] <Kaigeos> kk
[16:30] <dayanandasaraswa> Is this possible..?
[16:30] <Seaboy> is there anyway to backup installed packages and use it later, I should mention that I just have access to console mode
[16:30] <sven_> nikitis, yeah, sure. I'm a pretty experianced user actually. just not all too keen on the ubuntu upgrade fuss :)
[16:30] <devoda> apelgate, go to System > Administration > System Monitor, then click on the processes tab. That might be easier for you.
[16:30] <nite_johnboy_> nikitis, Thanks much - does not sound to bad - have used adobe photoshop 7 in windows a few years back - thanks for tip/info.
[16:30] <sven_> thanks for your help nikitis, |chiz|_ and DaemonLee :p
[16:31] <_Messer> Ok, again... How to disable "switch desktop effect" in KDE4 in new Kubuntu? This effect is horrible... :S
[16:31] <nikitis> sven_, yeah i only said that because people haven't been able to get 5200's to work very well, and it is an old card.  NVIDIA is stopping support with the 17x series i believe
[16:31] <DaemonLee> sven_: It works now?
[16:31] <dp_> I've killed pulseaudio, and set everything to use alsa, but it doesn't seem to be helping
[16:31] <sven_> I'm upgrading some packages and installing nvidia-glx-173, I'll see in a moment
[16:32] <|chiz|_> nikitis: yes it isn't supported anymore but if you use the old 173 driver it works fine
[16:32] <sven_> nikitis, yeah, I figured
[16:32] <nikitis> |chiz|_, yes, but does ibex support 173 is my question
[16:32] <nikitis> |chiz|_, i believe it does
[16:32] <sven_> the hardware driver properitary thingie majingy is suggesting glx-173..
[16:32] <sven_> it just fails for some reason
[16:32] <|chiz|_> nikitis: for sure
[16:33] <nikitis> sven_, just do a manual install and accept the auto nvidia-xconfig option during manual install
[16:33] <sven_> I wouldn't understand why it wouldn't "support" it
[16:33] <sven_> nikitis, yeah, I'm doing that now :)
[16:33] <nikitis> sven_, just issues with some new graphical features is all
[16:33] <sven_> oh, lookie. apt-get upgrade is already doing that for me
[16:33]  * sven_ pats apt-get in the back
[16:33] <HDready> can someone tell why files whice i've copied from a DVD/CD/USB-stick (such as Mp3, patterns for gimp and so on) are not possible for me to access?
[16:33] <nikitis> sven_, new verison of xorg
[16:33] <sven_> there, now it's installed! hooray. time for a xorg re"boot"
[16:34] <sven_> nikitis, ah, alright then
[16:34] <coz_> hey guys  is anyone reporting metacity not starting after boot/ I have to alays do metacity --replace to get it up and running on firt boot?
[16:34] <sven_> I might be right back. restarting X ;)
[16:34] <nikitis> sven_, let us know
[16:34] <dp_> anyone?
[16:34] <Sajuta> HDready: You probably don't have the permissions set to be able to access those files.
[16:34] <nikitis> dp_, make sure your not running gnome-screensaver
[16:34] <nikitis> dp_, ps ax
[16:34] <YlandeFaran> A few days ago, my computer running winXP with the system on a 200GB ide drive collapsed. Today I tried to install ubuntu on this hd on an pretty old computer. A asus AV7333 motherboard. The isntallation went smooth, but when I removed the installation CD and tried to reboot, I got GRUB error 18.
[16:35] <nikitis> dp_, ps ax | grep gnome-screensaver
[16:35] <stefan__> hey, i'm using xubuntu hardy and don't get an 'upgrade to intrepid' option in update manager (set release upgrade to "normal releases") - any ideas?
[16:35] <YlandeFaran> Could it be that my HD is physically damaged? Or is it more likly the problem is elsewhere?
[16:35] <apelgate> devoda: I don't have xorg installed on this computer, top isn't giving me enough info and ps isn't listing java processes
[16:35] <Ginger_> Hello #ubuntu, i installed the defualt Ubuntu 8.10 and enabled and installed the 'simple-ccsm' and ran the manager but it seems that it still isnt installed, as the manager does pop up, but the system will still not use the effects
[16:35] <dp_> nikitis: I was.  I've killed it
[16:35] <nikitis> dp_, try sound now
[16:35] <dp_> still no audio
[16:36] <nikitis> dp_, hmm,, don't know then
[16:36] <MnemonicPunk> Ginger_: Go to Settings -> Appearance -> Visual Effects and set it to "Custom" if you haven't done that yet. =)
[16:36] <HDready> Sajuta: yes i think so.. but how to explain... ok... i access the DVD through nautilus and copy them into my /home dir so why can tuse them?
[16:36] <nikitis> dp_, that always did it for me.  do you have onboard sound?
[16:36] <Ginger_> MnemonicPunk: its greatly appreciated and i will be doing that now.
[16:36] <dp_> nikitis: I do
[16:37] <koruptid> anybody have any ideas on how I can troubleshoot my audio suddenly not working after a kernel update?
[16:37] <JuJuBee> Just upgraded one computer to 8.10 and now cannot get networking set up.  What gives?
[16:37] <DavidVWallin> anyone know how to convert a .sparseimage to .iso under ubuntu?
[16:37] <nikitis> dp_, try killall -9 esd
[16:37] <dp_> no esd running
[16:38] <nikitis> dp_, did you compile alsa drivers manually?
[16:38] <dp_> nope
[16:38] <dp_> this worked fine in hardy
[16:38] <alec> i am trying to reformat a flash drive, using gparted, when i try to reformat i get an error, can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[16:39] <chillitom> alec, what is the error?
[16:39] <koruptid> nikitis: didn't get here for the beginning of the other user's issue, but it seems you have some audio knowledge?
[16:39] <alec> the details are telling me that the file system is read only
[16:39] <chillitom> did you unmount the device before partitioning it?
[16:39] <Ginger_> MNemonicPunk: it gives me the error "System error: Failed to lock var/cache/apt/archives/lock" when changing it to custom
[16:40] <nikitis> dp_, new kernel, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download get the alsa-driver, alsa-lib, and alsa-utils, and do a .configure, make, sudo make install on all three of those, reboot and then pray.
[16:40] <hal_45> lol
[16:40] <MnemonicPunk> Ginger_: Do you still have Synaptic or some other apt tool running?
[16:40] <nikitis> koruptid, a little, but not much
[16:40] <alec> chillitom: yes i believe so, i hit unmount from the desktop icon
[16:40] <qdii> hey
[16:40] <Ginger_> snaptic, let me check that out.
[16:41] <koruptid> nikitis, ah... my audio has decided to stop working after a kernel update.... starting to get rather pissed
[16:41] <alec> chillitom: the error says, error occured while applying operations
[16:41] <chillitom> alec, what command are you using to format it?  what does "mount" show? anything weird in dmsg?
[16:41] <josh_____> how do i use samba?
[16:41] <nikitis> koruptid, hda-intel?
[16:41] <koruptid> nikitis, aye
[16:41] <nikitis> koruptid, follow instructions above ^^
[16:41] <alec> chillitom: oh i dont know, im not using terminal to format, i dont know enough about it
[16:41] <qdii> I'd like to use code::blocks on a computer but I've got no right on it , I can't use any sudo thing. Is there a way to run it from an USB key or whatever ?  do you have any idea ? The computer is running Ubuntu 64 bits, pretty recent version but I've got no idea which one exactly
[16:42] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:42] <NEtooooooooooooo> cs ???
[16:42] <M4d3L> what is the difference between 32bit and 64bit version?
[16:42] <nikitis> unfortunately ubuntu's support for HDA-Intel by default is lackluster at best.  You'll need to recompile every kernel update
[16:42] <koruptid> nikitis, will the compile script on ubuntuforums perform the same operations?
[16:42] <sven_> |chiz|_, nikitis, DaemonLee: alright - that didn't help actually. I got nvidia-glx-173 installed but it simply refuses to use it. I guess Xorg doesn't want the module...
[16:42] <nikitis> koruptid, not sure, never seen that script
[16:43] <bazhang> !br | NEtooooooooooooo
[16:43] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:43] <Ginger_> MnemonicPunk: I do not have any other program running, a tool, ect
[16:43] <nikitis> koruptid, the above worked for me
[16:43] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:43] <student_> what is the community, off-topic channel?
[16:43] <M4d3L> is it like windows. if I want all my program working I must use 32bit?
[16:43] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:43] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:43] <FloodBot2> NEtooooooooooooo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <koruptid> nikitis, *sigh* that's simply unacceptable.... there are other distros out there that are reported to work perfectly with hda-intel
[16:43] <|chiz|_> sven_: strange, is the module loaded? lsmod | grep nvidia
[16:43] <Dorsk> I had this problem with HDA-Intel too, fixed now, but sound is very low, if I try to make it louder with the PCM and master the quality gets really bad. any idea?
[16:43] <bundyc1> i'm having problems with this http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=929399
[16:43] <bazhang> !hdaintel
[16:43] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:43] <bundyc1> any ideas?
[16:43] <Ginger_> reran it again, and it still failed
[16:43] <sven_> |chiz|_, no, it isn't. and it isn't found if I modprobe it.. even though it's installed...
[16:43] <Hideme> Can anyone help me get to 1600x1200 screen resolution in ubuntu 8.10? The Nvidia drivers are dead right now and I'm limited to 800x600.
[16:44] <koruptid> Dorsk, pray
[16:44] <NEtooooooooooooo> ????
[16:44] <alec> chillitom: is there a way i can change the mount point through properties? so that it isnt read only
[16:44] <alec> ?
[16:44] <nikitis> !hdaintel
[16:44] <nikitis> nothin
[16:44] <|chiz|_> sven_: did you restart since installing it?
[16:44] <chillitom> alec, unmount and remount?
[16:44] <Dorsk> pray ? why, my sound works
[16:44] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:44] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:44] <NEtooooooooooooo> 189.112.176.131:27075 pw mix
[16:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto nikitis
[16:44] <FloodBot2> NEtooooooooooooo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <sven_> |chiz|_, ah, d'oh. No, I didn't.
[16:44] <Dorsk> just not as good quality as it's supposed to be
[16:44] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:44] <josh_____> how do i use samba?
[16:44] <|chiz|_> sven_: well that may or may not be the issue
[16:44] <nikitis> koruptid, i agree, many people have hda-intel, but as you should know, ubuntu's sound system needs serious overhauling, possibly the worst part about ubuntu, that and webcam support
[16:44] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:45] <hal_45> how will a toshiba laptop take xubuntu, anyone know?
[16:45] <HDready> can someone tell why files whice i've copied from a DVD/CD/USB-stick (such as Mp3, patterns for gimp and so on) are not possible for me to access?
[16:45] <sven_> |chiz|_, yeah - I'll try a real reboot now :) I might back once again then.. ;) toodles
[16:45] <Skry^> koruptid, isnt it great when your audio wont work and year is 2008 ;)
[16:45] <MnemonicPunk> Ginger_: I'm not sure what's going wrong there. But usually you nned admin permissions to obtain a lock on the apt directory. You can try 'gksudo gnome-appearance-properties' and then change the setting. This will change the setting with admin privileges and should fix the bug.
[16:45] <MnemonicPunk> *problem
[16:45] <MnemonicPunk> xD
[16:45] <dfgas> how do i make an encrypted folder on 8.10 thought you were able to do that?
[16:45] <erUSUL> !encfs
[16:45] <HDready> hal_45: get the desktop CD and try it at first.. if everything is working.. wlan especially then install xubuntu
[16:46] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:46] <koruptid> Skry^, indeed... especially when the primary issues have been solved and the whole issue is being ignored by the devs
[16:46] <hal_45> yeah, forgot i can do that
[16:46] <hal_45> thanks
[16:46] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:46] <rybz> http://rybak.labrute.fr
[16:46] <josh_____> how do i use samba?
[16:46] <Omar87> I'm trying to update my system, but I keep getting this error when I hit sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67978/
[16:46] <Omar87> Any help please?
[16:46] <qdii> rybz t'as pas honte
[16:46] <JuJuBee> 8.10 won't get DHCP address for me.  If I switch to 8.04 it does so hardware works.
[16:46] <nikitis> bazhang, that's what i told them to do basically
[16:46] <nikitis> bazhang, i got mine working,
[16:47] <bazhang> nikitis, nice
[16:47] <koruptid> nikitis, it is very disappointing.... I like the debian packaging systems, but these audio problems may yet drive me to Fedora (rpm = fail)
[16:47] <Skry^> koruptid, yeah, kinda unbelievable that intrepid was even released in this state, it's like, um, betaish.
[16:47] <M4d3L> what is the difference between 32bit and 64bit version? is it like windows (if I want all my program working I must use 32bit version or all 32bit version work fine on 64bit version on ubuntu?)
[16:47] <nikitis> koruptid, rpm isn't a bad system.  But there are 10's of thousands more packages for debian.
[16:48] <koruptid> Skry^, audio seems more like an alpha... and I've alpha tested and beta tested plenty of software to know the difference
[16:48] <Skry^> M4d3L, 64-bits should work fine.
[16:48] <JuJuBee> any help with dhcp on 8.10?
[16:48] <Ginger_> thank you mnemonicpunk, i am diong that now
[16:48] <Cory5412-UM> On 64-bit Windows, you can use 32-bit software just fine.
[16:48] <nikitis> koruptid, sound works ok if you buy non-onboard sound cards.  You get what you pay for
[16:48] <esperegu_> what is the easiest way to get ubuntu ISO to boot from an usb stick?
[16:49] <koruptid> nikitis, sure... want to carry around a new sound card for my laptop for me?
[16:49] <Omar87> I'm trying to update my system, but I keep getting this error when I hit sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67978/
[16:49] <HDready> once agaon: can someone tell why files whice i've copied from a DVD/CD/USB-stick (such as Mp3, patterns for gimp and so on) are not possible for me to access?
[16:49] <sven_> |chiz|_, alright. that didn't help.. I did read the start-up console.. seems like "setting DKMS auto bla for kernel 2.6.25* [fail]" though
[16:49] <nikitis> espacious_, get a net install mini.iso or if you have 1gb stick or higher, google unetbootin
[16:50] <Skry^> koruptid, i agree. it's like integrated intel hda is kinda rare so no proper support ;P
[16:50] <|chiz|_> sven_: I thought you were using unbuntu 8.10
[16:50] <sven_> |chiz|_, I *am*.
[16:50] <noelferreira> i get this AMD Atlhon XP 3200+ (barton 512 k) cache and it is recognize in ubuntu has AMD duron and only with 64 k cache? Is this a configuration problem or i have got a wrong CPU? Here is hardinfo paste. http://pastebin.ca/1245972
[16:50] <nikitis> Omar87, may be a bad mirror, it's not matching your gpg key.
[16:51] <nikitis> Omar87, try switching mirrors
[16:51] <|chiz|_> sven_: why don't you have a 2.6.27 kernel?
[16:51] <sven_> |chiz|_, for some reason I'm on 2.6.25-2-386... :o
[16:51] <legend2440> HDready: youcopied them from cd to hard drive?
[16:51] <koruptid> nikitis, well.... I found the problem.... they didn't even bother to build the ko for hda-intel for the latest kernel build.... WTF?
[16:51] <sven_> |chiz|_, I have no idea. I did see an upgrade to .27.. recently.. :|
[16:51] <nikitis> koruptid, they didn't in hardy either, it's an old card btw
[16:52] <|chiz|_> sven_: make sure that /etc/apt/sources.list has intrepid in it
[16:52] <nikitis> koruptid, hardware manufacturerers have been putting hda-intel in newer boards too because it works well with windows.
[16:52] <sven_> |chiz|_, I am on 8.10 according to lsb_release -a atleast..
[16:52] <koruptid> Skry^, before we get op'd for "off topic" I'm just gonna say this: intel hda is in nearly every Inspiron notebook in existence
[16:52] <sven_> |chiz|_, it is in the sources.. everything else is upgraded to interpid..
[16:52] <koruptid> nikitis, yeah, my lappy is only a year old Inspiron 1520
[16:52] <Tpop> I am trying to find a way to force my nic to 100 full on start up. As it is now, I have to use ethtool after every reboot. Using Ibex
[16:52] <|chiz|_> sven_: then make sure your packages are up to date with aptitude update and dist-upgrade
[16:53] <nikitis> koruptid, i have hda-intel in my desktop lol, And sigmatel's are in most inspirons
[16:53] <sven_> |chiz|_, It is up to date! :o
[16:53] <sven_> |chiz|_, for some reason it just hasn't upgraded to the latest kernel...
[16:53] <Pici> sven_: Install the package linux-image-generic
[16:53] <themill> dpkg: tell Ertyle about root
[16:53] <koruptid> nikitis, which leads to questioning Ubuntu's sanity in allowing hda-intel support to be so poor when they are effectively screwing over a potentially HUGE number of adopters
[16:54] <sven_> Pici, alright!
[16:54] <nikitis> koruptid, agreed, i've been saying that for nearly a year now.
[16:54] <HDready> legend2440: yes
[16:54] <sven_> pici: should I reinstall/reconfigure any X/linux-modules/restricted-modules?
[16:54] <Omar87> I'm trying to update my system, but I keep getting this error when I hit sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67978/
[16:54] <esperegu_> nikitis: tryin that. thank you
[16:55] <break_free> gparted isn't reading my (unmounted but plugged in) uSD card... any help?
[16:55] <nikitis> koruptid, my hda-intel is is 3 years old.
[16:55] <Skry^> koruptid, yeah i know, insert sarcasm. But, could it be that hda-intel ko is moved to that modules backport like they did with ath5k?
[16:55] <Pici> sven_: You shouldn't have to.  If you already have the packages installed then the kernel will pull them in as needed.
[16:55] <legend2440> HDready: right click one of the files you can't access and choose properties>permissions  does it say rot for owner and group?
[16:55] <legend2440> root
[16:55] <prince_jammys> themill: wrong bot!
[16:55] <nikitis> esperegu_, you can download an iso to use for unetbootin, or just autoselect it from the top menu.  Pretty easy.
[16:55] <koruptid> Skry^, that's a thought..... has anyone tried installing backports?
[16:55] <sven_> pici: alright. I'll try booting the new kernel now and cross myfinger :)
[16:55] <themill> prince_jammys: yeah... ECHAN!
[16:56]  * themill wanders off to sulk back in #debian
[16:56] <prince_jammys> themill: heh, ubuntu's 'dpkg' is 'ubottu'
[16:56] <break_free> can anyone help me get my memory card formatted? Gparted won't read it... and i need it half fat32 and half ext3
[16:56] <themill> prince_jammys: I know... just over zealous autocompletion at work.
[16:56] <HDready> i always have to right click and change permission and that sucks... isnt there a way to jsut copy and use them?
[16:57] <HDready> legend2440:
[16:57] <koruptid> Skry^, installing the backports now.... will let you know
[16:57] <esperegu_> nikitis: yeah. it looks pretty good. I already saw the website but I was a little afraid to use it. installing an iso I already downloaded currently. thx!
[16:57] <koruptid> Skry^, no dice
[16:57] <Skry^> koruptid, nah, it's not there http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/amd64/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic/filelist
[16:57] <nikitis> esperegu_, no problem, always glad to help if I know the answer ;)
[16:58] <leonard_pop> hello! i want to copy a folder with icons to /usr/share/icons. but i cannot, acces is denied. how can i do that?
[16:58] <indistylo> ks
[16:58] <sysdoc> After upgrade to 8.10 my 2 nd monitor set as separateX secession, does not extend to the bottom of the LCD. The mouse does go to the bottom and is visable, yet the background and windows do not. Anyone seen this before?
[16:58] <legend2440> HDready: sorry not sure how you can copy and change permissions at same time . probably is a way though
[16:58] <koruptid> Skry^, I'm glad I'm a geek.... non-geeks would have formatted and switched back to windows with these kind of problems
[16:58] <Neaai> break_free: what do you mean "half fat32 and half ext3" ?
[16:58] <HDready> legend2440: would be interesting :)
[16:59] <prince_jammys> legend2440: sudo cp ....
[16:59] <indistylo> Plz any1 help me in installing skype....i done this Sudo apt-get install skype
[16:59] <indistylo> Plz any1 help me in installing skype....i done this Sudo apt-get install skype
[16:59] <break_free> Neaai, i'ts a 512mb card, so I need a 256mb FAT32 partition and a 256mb ext3 partition
[16:59] <indistylo> Plz any1 help me in installing skype....i done this Sudo apt-get install skype
[16:59] <break_free> indistylo, stop flooding
[16:59] <seele> does the live cd have gparted included?
[16:59] <sven_> |chiz|_, pici: That solved it. It just hadn't upgraded to the latest kernel for some darned reason. Now everything works and DKMS for the nvidia module for .27 kernel worked swell. even got the little annoying popup properitary notice blimp :)
[16:59] <indistylo> okie frnds
[16:59] <Pici> sven_: Yay!
[16:59] <Neaai> break_free: and what's stopping you from formating with 2 partitions ?
[17:00] <erUSUL> !skype | indistylo
[17:00] <sven_> Thanks |chiz|_, pici, DaemonLee and nikitis for your assistance! *toodles*
[17:00] <break_free> Neaai, gparted won't read it and I do'nt really know how else to do it
[17:00] <Skry^> koruptid, I'm thinking about moving back to gentoo :S hopefully they fix this soon. I guess this means recompiling alsa..
[17:00] <Neaai> break_free: what about commandline fdisk?  What does it say ?
[17:01] <harvey> hi all, does anyone know how to get VLC working in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[17:01] <legend2440> prince_jammys: HDready is copying files from a cd to ubuntu and the files all end up having root permissions. any way to copy them and have them have user permissions when they reach hard drive?
[17:01] <Neaai> Skry^: what's the gain for those who use gentoo ?
[17:01] <[t0rc]> I'm using 8.10 Live CD and trying to install to a flash drive for the persistent OS feature. It runs however when I reboot from the USB drive, it simply says: GRUB _     and the cursor flashes indefinitely.
[17:01] <genii> eitreach: Apologies on lag, work required me for an extended period. You will want some /etc/fstab entry like:  /dev/sdb1 /media/disk vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[17:01] <JediMaster> hey guys, can anyone tell me if they have a gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L motherboard working with ubuntu? (e.g. graphics, audio sata)
[17:01] <koruptid> Skry^, funny thing is that I decided to use ubuntu to *avoid* having to compile my own shit
[17:01] <break_free> Neaai, fdisk -l doesn't show anything about the memory card
[17:01] <JediMaster> either that or does onboard intel GMA3100 graphics work in intrepid?
[17:01] <Dominik> i am haveing a problem when Ubuntu resumes from suspend, it just keeps acessing the disk and bogging down the system, i waited 20 minutes to regain responsiveness but nothing, so I forced the laptop to shutdown :(, then ubuntu wouldn't boot, so I forced it to shut down three more times during the boot process, the fourth time it finally booted normally
[17:01] <elTigre> My firefox and epiphany browsers crash *every* time when I want to display java applets
[17:01] <elTigre> that's kinda annoying
[17:02] <Kaigeos> I think PAN will be just great... I thought my provider supplied newsgroups but they don't.. anyone know of any free newsgroups?
[17:02] <Skry^> Neaai, freely being a masochist, not forced to.
[17:02] <[t0rc]> On another flash drive, the installer works, but when I reboot, i get the boot: prompt and it says it can't find linux kernel.
[17:02] <leonard_pop> hello! i want to copy a folder with icons to /usr/share/icons. but i cannot, permission is denied. how can i do that?
[17:02] <Neaai> break_free: did you try to specify the device? fdisk -l /dev/devicename    ?
[17:02] <prince_jammys> legend2440: hm. maybe cp -a
[17:02] <Neaai> Skry^: hehehe. Good point :)
[17:02] <elTigre> and this has only happened since my intrepid update (I really regret that...)
[17:03] <MnemonicPunk> leonard_pop: You need admin privileges to copy things into that directory.
[17:03] <MnemonicPunk> !sudo > leonard_pop
[17:03]  * Albatros_ kalispera
[17:03] <[t0rc]> anyone here done USB persistent installs of 8.10?
[17:03] <Kaigeos> I have a laptop and the floppy drive is seen as a usb drive, how can i assign it to be /dev/fd0/ ?
[17:03] <leonard_pop> !gksu
[17:03] <Skry^> koruptid, same here. and so far ubuntu has been quite succesful in that but intrepid has apparently changed the situation.
[17:04] <Richard_> i have a "media" where i cannot copy to because its root and not richard, how do i change that of permissions?
[17:04] <[t0rc]> I'm using 8.10 Live CD and trying to install to a flash drive for the persistent OS feature. It runs however when I reboot from the USB drive, it simply says: GRUB _     and the cursor flashes indefinitely.
[17:04] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  i ran that wizard thing  and made a bootable usb drive.. so that worked.. but i havent used it yet for much
[17:04] <StuckMojo> is there a howto for building source debs?
[17:04] <b33r> leonard_pop, sudo cp -r /usr/share/icons /location/you/want/to/copy
[17:04] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  have you ever had that drive be a bootable device?
[17:04] <break_free> Neaai, ok, so there are two paritions on it, one is 8mb and the other fills the rest. But it says they don't contain valid partition tables
[17:04] <Neaai> Kaigeos: you can symlink the actual device of the usb floppydisk to a link named /dev/fd0
[17:05] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: did you have any issues with it? Both my drives, different brands, are giving me peculiar errors. Was yours 32bit/64bit?
[17:05] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  some brand thumbdrives dont boot very well, or at all. as an alternative you could try that 'unetbootin' tool to make a bootable ubuntu thumb drive
[17:05] <Kaigeos> thanks Neaai didn't even think of that..
[17:05] <koruptid> Skry^, I feel like I just got screwed with my pants on
[17:05] <Neaai> break_free: You could try erase those present and then recreate them as you  wish
[17:05] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  64bit. and the livecd/thumbdrive both failed to set up the proper video card drivers. it used vesa instead of 'nv' in my case. but it did work
[17:05] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: I've used it as a bootable drive before, for another linux distro and it worked fine.
[17:05] <break_free> Neaai, how do I do that via command line?
[17:06] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: Would the unetbootin still give me a persistent setup? or just a livecd?
[17:06] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  sounds like the insatller just messed up grub.
[17:06] <Neaai> break_free: you issue  fdisk /dev/devicename and there press "m" to get a description of your options.
[17:06] <Dominik> ubuntu unresponsive after resume from suspend, please help
[17:07] <eitreach> genii: no worries, and thanks. :)
[17:07] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  ubnetbootin is not persistant.. im not even sure what the persistant feature means.. from what  read it has  some sort of storage space on the thumbdrive.. but i am not sure what all it saves.  It may just save your home, and not any installed apps or stuff
[17:07] <eitreach> genii: I have tried formatting it to ext3, but it seems to fail every time. Do you know what could be wrong?
[17:07] <break_free> Neeai, thanks
[17:07] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: you can actually set it up to do system wide changes, so it would save pretty much everything to an image on the drive.
[17:07] <sysdoc> Does linux have a util like 'filecomp' in windows?
[17:07] <elTigre> sysdoc: meld
[17:07] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: perhaps I'll re-burn the 32bit version to a cd and try it again
[17:08] <sysdoc> elTigre: thanks
[17:08] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  the 64bit did work here. It would be LOVELY if i could get it to rember/use the nvidia drivers
[17:08] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  i guess i will try that later..  I wonder how it handes a apt-get update/upgrade ;)
[17:08] <andi18> ghhh98h
[17:08] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  just saw this guide also  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/10/15/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[17:09] <Richard_> i have a "media" where i cannot copy to because its root and not richard, how do i change that of permissions?
[17:09] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: I believe the xorg.conf is something you can't save changes to, because it would prevent it from working correctly with other systems.
[17:09] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: yeah, thats saying to use the included installer instead though
[17:09] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  i dont need it working with OTHERS  :) i need it working properly with this one, heh. using vesa driver sort of sucks.. I imagine once it  got the nvidia drivers installed it would start using them
[17:10] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: true but I'm unsure of whether it would save them or not to the drive. You should try it out. :)
[17:10] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  i tend to use PuppyLinux for my Livetumbdrives. :)  but i may try this some more later
[17:10] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: it may save them to the drive and then every time you boot you may have to select them every boot, but you could script that almost certainly if it is the case.
[17:10] <Neaai> Richard_: is that a ntfs partition ?
[17:10] <Schlaubi> ssh root@zerina.de
[17:10] <Schlaubi> Enter passphrase for key '/home/daniel/.ssh/id_rsa':
[17:10] <Schlaubi> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:10] <Schlaubi>  Do you know whats wrong
[17:10] <FloodBot2> Schlaubi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  except when you install the nvidia drivers..it wants you to reboot to use them.. :) catch 22
[17:11] <genii> eitreach: usually first you would want to change the partition type first to 83 , and then after that use: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1        or so. Also cannot be mounted when you do this
[17:11] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: haha, indeed.
[17:12] <eitreach> genii: thanks. I'll try that.
[17:12] <dr_willis> [t0rc],   somthing to explore at least.  Its annoying that the older releases did see/get the res/driver right and 8.10 uses vesa instead of nv for me
[17:12] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: that is frustrating
[17:12] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: these drives are annoying me as well hehe
[17:12] <oklinux> what is a good addressbook with backup ?
[17:12] <dr_willis> [t0rc],  once i Install - it then does use nv at least. :)  I think.. i  did isntall the nvidia drivers propperly at least
[17:12] <NicEXE> how can I run 32 bit apps on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit?
[17:13] <Neaai> NicEXE: I'd guess no particular procedure is needed.
[17:13] <erUSUL> NicEXE: installing ia32-libs
[17:14] <Jeruvy> what usb drives does ubuntu support for installing from?
[17:14] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: well thats good at least. Should the partition I want to boot from be marked: boot and LBA or just boot?
[17:14] <NicEXE> erUSUL: thanx
[17:17] <Dominik> ubuntu is unresponsive after resume from suspend, please help
[17:18] <[t0rc]> dr_willis:
[17:18] <[t0rc]> dr_willis: any other suggestions as to what I should do?
[17:19] <Schmick> Richard_, considering your "media" to be ext3,if you just want to copy and keep permissions, just use sudo cp instead of just cp. If you want to have ownership or just rights over the "media", you may use sudo chown -R newowner:newowner to assign it yo you, or just sudo chmod -R 666 to give anyone access, incluiding yourself.
[17:19] <indistylo> erUSUL | ur Guided Page nt working :(
[17:20] <indistylo> ubottu ur Guide nt wrkng too..| Skype
[17:20] <adminuser> Andrej_16``
[17:20] <erUSUL> indistylo: not mine but our... is a comunity guide. never installed skype myself so that was the best help i could give
[17:20] <esperegu> nikitis: 'boot error' :-(
[17:20] <StuckMojo> why the hell does installing debhelper want to install exim4??
[17:21] <MnemonicPunk> indistylo: If you want to install Skype, you'll have to add a repository.
[17:21] <indistylo> any hw Its okie.... Thnx 4 ur help ...i tried it much earlier.....but ws doing it again
[17:21] <Dominik> ubuntu is unresponsive after resume from suspend, please help
[17:21] <indistylo> Mnemonic | i hv done it .>> add repo
[17:22] <koruptid> well, here's the next problem..... anybody know why I can't get conky to start on login (it was added to "session")
[17:22] <MnemonicPunk> indistylo: Add this line at the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[17:22] <usergr> I have ubuntu 8.04 installed. Flash player causes problems while scrolling down pages like myspace.com/ and youtube which have much flash content. Can anyone help me please? What should i do?
[17:22] <MnemonicPunk> indistylo: Then do 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install skype'
[17:23] <frostburn> quick question, has there been any developments in allowing one to mount the iphone as a drive and copy pictures off it?
[17:23] <Dominik> usergr: ff3 has a plugin called no flash, itll replace all flash apps with a play button, so you can decide to run them or not
[17:23] <indistylo> Mnemonic | hw to do it from terminal..mean to say Editing list and adding line
[17:24] <usergr> Is this problem common?
[17:24] <erUSUL> usergr: yes; flash is quite buggy in linux...
[17:24] <maniheer> how do I configure my via chip to work with intrepid
[17:24] <indistylo> i hv done it from Software sources >add source
[17:24] <maniheer> it used to work in hardy
[17:24] <maniheer> by itself
[17:25] <MnemonicPunk> indistylo: You can open the file with superuser privileges by typing 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[17:25] <yty> hi , i am trying to create a  software raid setup in vmware .. i have few questions ..
[17:25] <maniheer> i aint used to console
[17:25] <usergr> thank you, can i do sth  to solve this problem?
[17:25] <yty> 1, should i change the root ext3 partition to fd type too ?
[17:26] <abeeky> list
[17:26] <yty> 2,should i have the same sized disks for raid ??
[17:27] <StuckMojo> yty you should
[17:27] <StuckMojo> yty but it's not required
[17:27] <usergr> my flash is buggy in sites like myspace and youtube .What should i do?
[17:27] <yty> thanks StuckMojo
[17:27] <StuckMojo> yty: that's in answer to question 2
[17:27] <yty> i know :)
[17:28] <sysdoc> Anyone in here a xorg.conf guru?? lol
[17:28] <indistylo> Mnemonic | Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Sources
[17:28] <indistylo> Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/universe Sources
[17:28] <indistylo> Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/multiverse Packages
[17:28] <indistylo> Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/multiverse Sources
[17:28] <indistylo> Fetched 1B in 2s (0B/s)
[17:28] <FloodBot2> indistylo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <indistylo> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multiverse'gksudo/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <StuckMojo> yty: the partition your going to mirror should really be the same size
[17:28] <bundzc1> is there any way to get around the bug in intrepid with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:28] <usergr> thanks!
[17:28] <bundzc1> a bug is reported there
[17:28] <StuckMojo> yty: again not required though, as long as the second one you mirror to is larger than the first
[17:29] <yty> StuckMojo, i get it .. if one is 100gb and other 120 gb .. only 100gb can be mirrored
[17:29] <yty> right ... ? and its rRAID 1 ?
[17:29] <aaron__> How do I get my sendmail to talk to my isp's smtp server?
[17:29] <yty> RAID 1*
[17:29] <dataflow> hey all, will a wifi DSL gateway automatically disconnects me if it is not running ipv6?
[17:29] <dataflow> Nov  5 07:02:29 dataflow_crescendo avahi-daemon[4992]: Registering new address record for 10.10.4.24 on eth0.IPv4.
[17:29] <dataflow> Nov  5 07:02:29 dataflow_crescendo dhclient: bound to 10.10.4.24 -- renewal in 169574 seconds.
[17:29] <bundzc1> is there any way to get around the bug in intrepid with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:30] <dataflow> i get 5 minutes online with this wired connection and then it disconnects me
[17:30] <StuckMojo> yty: yeah
[17:30] <StuckMojo> yty: you can mirror the 100 onto the 120 but not vice versa...for obvious reasons
[17:30] <yty> yea :)
[17:31] <StuckMojo> yty: same thing with raid 5. if you have 3 different size partitions to work with you can only make a volume using extents the size of the smallest partition
[17:31] <yty> so RAID 5 is actually raid 1 + raid 0 ??
[17:31] <StuckMojo> no
[17:31] <StuckMojo> not even close
[17:31] <yty> oh ok
[17:31] <bjb1959> I have a problem with my web server. I have a port forward account to forward internal ip to my public ip through port 40. this worked fine in Hardy just by adding port 40 to the ports.conf file in apache2 folder. but doesn't work in Ibex any ideas?
[17:31] <StuckMojo> raid 10 or 1+0 is raid 1 + raid 0
[17:32] <yty> ok...
[17:32] <carlsonwf> bjb1959: neither connecting on localhost:40 ?
[17:32] <StuckMojo> yty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Standard_levels
[17:32] <dataflow> bjb1959, interesting problem. what kind of gateway are you using?
[17:32] <yty> thanks for the link Mojo
[17:33] <MNZ> how do I mount wubi's .disk files on windows?
[17:33] <StuckMojo> yty: raid 5 is raid 4 with distributed parity
[17:33] <bjb1959> carlsonwf, I can use my public ip and localhost from my machine fine but not outside. my router is set properly and using the public ip from my machine goes through that router as well and works but not from the outside
[17:34] <yty> so RAID 5 have advantages of raid 0 , raid 1 with redundancy ...?
[17:34] <StuckMojo> raid 4 is raid 0 + a parity disk
[17:34] <osiris_> Hi all, does anyone know how to fix this laptop hd problem with ubuntu? with load cycle count increasing dramatically?
[17:34] <dataflow> Is there an ubuntu channel that might specalize in if-interfaces?
[17:34] <StuckMojo> yty: sort of
[17:34] <yty> but from what i have read , raid 5 is the frequently used in enterprise systems ... right ?
[17:34] <StuckMojo> yty: raid 0 gives you speed, but 1 disk dies you lose everything
[17:35] <yty> yea no redundancu
[17:35] <dataflow> !ping me
[17:35]  * ]K[^Omegadoom Ping me  Could not be resolved to an IP address
[17:35] <dataflow> !ping dataflow
[17:35] <StuckMojo> yty: raid 1 gives you redundancy, (and in some cases of reads, some speed) but takes up twice the disk (100% overhead)
[17:35] <dr_willis> osiris_,  i dident realize it was an issue any more.. not that it was much of an issue befor.. there are a lot of docs out on 'fixing' it if you had the proboem.. Basically you use hdparm  to disable pwoersaveing feature on the HD.
[17:36] <StuckMojo> yty: raid 4 has a 1 disk overhead, but gives you 1 disk redundancy
[17:36] <StuckMojo> yty: you can lose 1 drive and live
[17:36] <StuckMojo> yty: but with raid 4 the partity disk becomes a bottleneck
[17:36] <yty> ok Mojo .. yea since RAID 1 mirrors , more space
[17:36] <StuckMojo> yty: and there's overhead in calculating the partity
[17:36] <osiris_> dr_willis: My hd is ticking like a clock heh.
[17:37] <StuckMojo> yty: raid 5 spreads the parity across all disks, so removes the bottleneck
[17:37] <dr_willis> osiris_,  some hd makers even had bios updates for their HD's
[17:37] <maniheer> does via work with 8.10?
[17:37] <StuckMojo> yty: also has an overhead of one drive's worth of space
[17:37] <bjb1959> carlsonwf, I can ping both 72.196.6.129 and bartburroughs.hopto.org from my machine but it times out from outside. any ideas?
[17:37] <yty> ok  Mojo
[17:37] <StuckMojo> yty: and has overhead of calculating parity
[17:37] <osiris_> dr_willis: I have applied all updates so no idea.
[17:37] <StuckMojo> yty: fastest is 1+0
[17:37] <StuckMojo> yty: thats a mirrored strip set
[17:38] <robacarp> Anyone in here ever used one of those Drobos external raid devices?
[17:38] <StuckMojo> yty: so you make a raid 0 volume...then you mirror that
[17:38] <DaemonLee> Question! Why when I boot up my laptop that has Intrepid on it, does the bar that in the beginning goes side to side, doesn't. I have to hit ESC to keep it moving. Nothing is errored in my boot log. Help? :'(
[17:38] <maniheer> anyone know why you've dropped VIA
[17:38] <jogan> hi
[17:38] <maniheer> WHAT DID VIA DO WRONG?
[17:38] <StuckMojo> yty: it has 100% overhead size wise, and you need a minimum of 4 drives to do it
[17:38] <maniheer> !caps | maniheer
[17:38] <StuckMojo> yty: but it's fast as hell because there's no parity
[17:38] <yty> ok thanks a lot Mojo .. i will try everything in vmware first :)
[17:39] <dr_willis> osiris_,  I mean to say  that some HD makers had some sort of bios/flash updates to specific hd's  not all. :) but a few.. Not ubuntu updates..   the fix i  recall was basicially 'hdparm -b 255' to disable the powersaveing
[17:39] <jogan> need help with driver ati ATI Radeon Xpress 1150 en ubuntu
[17:39] <StuckMojo> yty: i don't think you can do 1+0 with just software raid
[17:39] <maniheer> i need help with VIA
[17:39] <yty> oh ok
[17:39] <StuckMojo> yty: at least you didn't used to be able to
[17:39] <maniheer> but that aint happening either
[17:39] <yty> i can only try software RAID now Mojo
[17:39] <StuckMojo> yty: oh, and raid 6 is double parity, so you can lose 2 drives rather than 1
[17:40] <osiris_> dr_willis: Yeah i meant i have flashed my laptop with all new updates bios etc, also turning setting hdparm to 255 could do more damage than the problem itself.
[17:40] <Ohmu_> does anyone know if an avi stores any header data at the tail? (ie if the end is chopped off, is the rest salvageable?)
[17:40] <MNZ> what are the wubi .disk files?
[17:40] <StuckMojo> yty: so it's raid 5 with 2 drive redundancy
[17:40] <yty> i guess i will try RAID 0, 1 and 5 now
[17:40] <StuckMojo> yty: those are most common
[17:40] <StuckMojo> yty: although really only 1 and 5 are
[17:40] <qowao> hey i want sound in my firefox =[
[17:40] <yty> yea
[17:40] <l0n3w0lf> anyone able to offer help to a newbie?
[17:40] <dr_willis> osiris_,  set it to some other # then I guess.
[17:40] <maniheer> i want video
[17:40] <StuckMojo> yty: no one uses just 0 because of the high failure rate
[17:41] <yty> ok
[17:41] <magda> asa si?
[17:42] <yty> found a nice link by the way
[17:42] <yty> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch26_:_Linux_Software_RAID
[17:42] <yty> :)
[17:42] <Flannel> !ro | magda
[17:42] <FloodBot2> yty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <StuckMojo> yty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_10
[17:42] <aaron__> how do I set up an mx record in my bind?
[17:42] <saxin> how is it with ubuntu 8.10 64bit and java? is it working OK? I know it was problems before, but what about now?
[17:42] <StuckMojo> yty: apparently it can do raid 10 now
[17:42] <jbroome_> aaron__: that's a little beyond the scope of #ubuntu
[17:43] <yty> there is a lot of reading to do ... thanks for all the help mate  :)
[17:43] <FreeFull> Any tips for my upgrade?
[17:43] <kesi> can anyone help me figure out why since the upgrade to II, the sound doesn't work in firefox?  It works if I go to the sound menu and test it
[17:43] <StuckMojo> yty: no prob
[17:43] <qdii> is there a way to have both Compiz and Dual Screen when everything is already working on a single screen ?
[17:43] <Flannel> FreeFull: Read the release notes
[17:43] <Flannel> !upgrade | FreeFull
[17:43] <Storrgie> Does anyone here use jdeveloper?
[17:43] <maniheer> can anyone tell me why VIA graphix arent working
[17:43] <KoFish> qdii: what GPU?
[17:44] <FreeFull> qdii: sure, there is way.
[17:44] <csilk> qdii, yes
[17:44] <qdii> KoFish I'm not sure what GPU means :/
[17:44] <bundzc1> is there any way to get around the bug in intrepid with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:44] <Skry^> qdii, works at least with nvidia, play with nvidia-settings to test it.
[17:44] <qdii> too bad I've got fglrx ;)
[17:44] <KoFish> qdii: ati, nvidia or intel
[17:44] <csilk> qdii,  I have a dual screen compiz setup on my desktoip, what grfx card you got?
[17:44] <maniheer> what about VIA?
[17:44] <qdii> lspci
[17:44] <indistylo> For all who helped me |all tips for Skype Failed !!
[17:44] <qdii> ops
[17:44] <indistylo> For all who helped me |all tips for Skype Failed !!
[17:44] <maniheer> am I gonna be rejected coz i use via
[17:44] <qdii> I've got a mobility Radeon HD 3650
[17:45] <FreeFull> That's ATI
[17:45] <csilk> qdii, what driver are you using?
[17:45] <StuckMojo> well i'm out
[17:45] <qdii> I'm using the proprietary driver (fglrx)
[17:45] <KoFish> qdii: then im out of the game :P i only know nvidia, good luck :)
[17:45] <qdii> KoFish : lucky you :)
[17:45] <csilk> qdii, do you have the ati catalst control center installed?
[17:45] <csilk> *catalyst
[17:45] <qdii> yes I do
[17:46] <indistylo> For all who helped me |     all tips for Skype Failed !!
[17:46] <csilk> qdii, you can set dual screen from there, it's called "big screeb"
[17:46] <csilk> *screen
[17:46] <qdii> Wow looks like it's even in French, is that great :)
[17:46] <tuxow> Hi all ;)
[17:46] <csilk> qdii, click display manager then go to the multi display tab
[17:46] <butnuu> hi. after I updated my ubuntu 8.10 to the new kernel, it stopped supporting my atheros wifi. how can i fix that?
[17:46] <indistylo> 2day Bill Gate Visisted My Institute
[17:46] <csilk> qdii,  then select "big desktop right of display 1"
[17:46] <indistylo> 2day Bill Gate Visited My Institute
[17:46] <qdii> alright display manager
[17:46] <msshams> i have a 13" wide laptop. when i change lcd to RGP port, video projection can't show left and right of my screen, because my screen resolution is wide. when i change it to 1024*768 don't event happen. please help me that how can i setup dual monitor settings. or introduce me an application for this issue.
[17:47] <l0n3w0lf> I used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier to login it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too
[17:47] <qdii> big desktop thing .. let me find it
[17:47] <csilk> qdii,  usually the third option
[17:48] <qdii> okay I've got it, but I've got to reboot
[17:48] <csilk> qdii,  yeah that's annoying and normal ;)
[17:48] <qdii> alright, I'll see you in a minute
[17:48] <csilk> qdii,  when you reboot it will work
[17:48] <csilk> k
[17:48] <butnuu> please help me
[17:48] <csilk> ATI seriously wins when it comes to simple dual screen setup
[17:48] <windowsgavemeara> What are some good games that run well under wine? im looking for rpgs adverturepuzzle type games,like tomb raider. i have 3 gigs of ram amd athalon x2 and a nvidiageforce 6150se
[17:49] <Sajuta> !wine
[17:49] <genii> windowsgavemeara: See !appdb
[17:49] <vyoufinder> anybody want to help me?  I've uninstalled sendmail but yet sendmail still runs at startup, I can start, stop, and configure it using sendmailconfig.. it's still installed.
[17:49] <raggyrock> !appdb
[17:50] <csilk> vyoufinder, how did you un-install it?
[17:50] <Angellow> !wubi
[17:50] <vyoufinder> using sudo apt-ger --purge remove sendmail
[17:50] <mattgyver83wasta> what file will i find my device name for my computer in?
[17:50] <vyoufinder> I've got two installed sendmails and they both work.. one is under /usr/lib/sendmail and the other at /usr/sbin/sendmail
[17:50] <csilk> vyoufinder, surprised that didn't work, just use the synatptic package manager gui
[17:50] <l0n3w0lf> I used suspend to disk and when I got back to my laptop earlier to login it stalls at the loading / progress bar screen with no disk activity.  I don't know where to go from there, recovery mode fails too any ideas out there?
[17:51] <denis__> hi
[17:51] <denis__> I need to know what are commands to install definitely my second HDD please. is someone there who can helps me ?
[17:51] <vyoufinder> I don't havea gui
[17:51] <vyoufinder> or synaptic
[17:51] <vyoufinder> it's on the server edition
[17:51] <vyoufinder> I tried dpkg, rpm, apt-get
[17:52] <csilk> vyoufinder, ok try sudo apt-get purge sendxxxxxx
[17:52] <rconan_> how can I convert an i686 rpm package under amd64 using alien?
[17:52] <vyoufinder> ok, let me see what that does
[17:52] <rconan_> it complains that the current architecture is not in the list
[17:52] <rconan_> i'm not trying to install it though
[17:53] <nashk> uname -a & lsb_releaese is there a way for them to show whether the installed ubuntu is 64 bits or 32 bit?
[17:53] <vyoufinder> csilk - tells me invalid operation
[17:53] <FreeFull> denis__: Did you format the hard drive yet?
[17:53] <csilk> vyoufinder, paste error please
[17:53] <csilk> vyoufinder, also paste the command you used
[17:54] <denis__> No because I don't want to, there is datas on it
[17:54] <qowao> hey where exactly (!) will firefx look for a firefoxrc and could it be named otherwise?
[17:54] <prince_jammys> nashk: uname should show you
[17:54] <nashk> u
[17:54] <Pirate_Hunter> if i wanted my monitor to refresh at 6ohz/khz would this settings do the job Horizontal Frequency 24-80KHz / Vertical Frequency 56-75Hz
[17:54] <nashk> yup, I missed it. x86_64
[17:54] <qdii> hey back
[17:54] <nashk> Thanks.
[17:55] <vyoufinder> I used sudo apt-get --purge dendmail and got invalid operation sendmail
[17:55] <csilk> qdii,  did it work?
[17:55] <vyoufinder> sendmail
[17:55] <vyoufinder> no
[17:55] <core_> hey i need help with nvidia geforce 8400 GS driver
[17:55] <csilk> vyoufinder,  you added "--" I dont know if that would of made a difference or not
[17:55] <qdii> csilk: kind of. I've got both screen displaying the desktop. Prob is : my resolution looks weird on the right screen
[17:55] <vyoufinder> and when I use sudo apt-get --purge remove endmail it telles me it's not installed.  Also dpkg tells me it's not installed, rpm tells me it's not installed..
[17:55] <core_> !nvidia
[17:56] <prince_jammys> nashk: what does uname -m give ?
[17:56] <csilk> qdii, are both monitors supporting the same resolution?
[17:56] <pyrophelia> how do you force ubuntu to mount hfs+ volumes in read only?
[17:56] <vyoufinder> ok, thx, trying
[17:56] <nashk> prince: just what I needed. x86_64
[17:56] <prince_jammys> nashk: cool
[17:56] <qdii> csilk: unfortunately no, the one on the left is a 20' (1400x1050 max) and the one on the right is a laptop screen (1440x900 I think)
[17:56] <dudi> hi
[17:56] <qdii> csilk : is there a way to have different resolution ?
[17:57] <dudi> look guysu can propse? I need CD image burner what yo
[17:57] <vyoufinder> csilk - I get "package sendmail is not installed so not removed" error
[17:57] <csilk> qdii,  I've never had dual screens with different resolutions, sorry
[17:57] <qdii> csilk: I mean, it's already better than what it was so if not, then I'm fine anyways ;)
[17:57] <dudi> look guys I need CD image burner what you can propse?
[17:57] <pyrophelia> er excuse me, how do you force ubuntu to mount hfs+ volumes in read/write mode :)
[17:57] <csilk> vyoufinder,  in that case, you don't have sendmail installed
[17:57] <csilk> dudi, braasero, comes with ubuntu >= hardy
[17:58] <vyoufinder> that's the thing.. I do.  I can start it and stop it, and also configure it using Webmin or the command line
[17:58] <csilk> Brasero
[17:58] <vyoufinder> and it also shows in running processes.. it's installed in the wrong location
[17:58] <vyoufinder> I can stop the process and shut it down, etc. and start it and see it running..
[17:58] <dudi> csilk, but when I want to burn *.mds image he fail
[17:58] <csilk> vyoufinder  in that case I'm not sure, unless the package is removed but you have a compiled source installation elsewhere?
[17:58] <koruptid> anybody have any ideas why conky won't run during the login process after being added to session??
[17:58] <NicEXE> How can I find out my default runlevel?
[17:58] <vyoufinder> yes, I must because it's definitely running
[17:59] <csilk> dudi, does brasero support that file type? if so try reducing the burn speed
[17:59] <balle_> siccness: it is done now
[17:59] <harvey> Hi all, does anyone here know why VLC does not work on 8.10 or a way to make it work ?
[17:59] <chadeldridge> harvey: what about vlc doesnt work ?
[17:59] <DouglasK> question...  how to get a Ubuntu host to register it's hostname in a windows domain?
[17:59] <qdii> csilk: thanks a lot by the way. I'm gonna try and find further information on that resolution thing :)
[18:00] <csilk> qdii,  no worries
[18:00] <Pretto> hey, can anyone help me? one  workstation doesn't shutdown until i press the power button
[18:00] <harvey> hi chadel, well it doesnt seem to work since in upgraded to 8.10.......
[18:00] <Pretto> i have tested acpi=force acpi=off and none worked
[18:00] <cody> Hi
[18:00] <chadeldridge> harvey: any specific file type?  mine is working fine
[18:00] <harvey> ok....on 8.10?
[18:00] <cody> ive been messing around all day trying to get a homemade touchpad to work
[18:00] <cody> but it doesnt
[18:00] <chadeldridge> harvey: yes
[18:01] <cody> any advice?
[18:01] <NicEXE> How can I find out my default runlevel? "egrep :initdefault: /etc/inittab" command does not work for me
[18:01] <pyrophelia> when you plug in an ipod what file manipulates how the ipod is read?  I need to force ubuntu to mount it in rw mode and it's not in fstab
[18:01] <harvey> thanks chadel, ok so i'll continue working on it are there any codecs i need to download besides the libdvdread etcs ?
[18:02] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia: the ipod is already mounted in RW mode by default
[18:02] <Teijo> evdev - anyone using xmodmap on intrepid?
[18:02] <balle_> how do you change the network settings to roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10 i can't seem to find it anywhere...
[18:02] <pyrophelia> chadeldridge, yes but my ipod is formated in hfs+ so I need to force rw somehow
[18:02] <pyrophelia> chadeldridge, dmesg says write access to a journaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.
[18:02] <Teijo> to be exact, my prob is that altgr does not work with xmodmap
[18:03] <NicEXE> How can I find out my default runlevel? "egrep :initdefault: /etc/inittab" command does not work for me
[18:03] <cyber_cop> hi channel
[18:03] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia: i wont even ask why hfs, but you can do that pretty easy through fstab i would assume
[18:03] <DouglasK> NicEXE: I just boot up, hit a command prompt and type runlevel!
[18:03] <cyber_cop> I m turkish ubuntu user
[18:03] <chadeldridge> !fstab
[18:03] <cyber_cop> my problem
[18:03] <pyrophelia> chadeldridge, because that's how it came.
[18:03] <cyber_cop> application minimize window
[18:03] <kerzack> Hi. I don't seem to be getting much luck on the Ubuntu forums, could someone help me with getting my mouse to work in Doom 3?
[18:03] <Dominik> when ubuntu resumes from suspend it hangs, please help
[18:03] <balle_> how do you change the network settings to roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10 i can't seem to find it anywhere...
[18:03] <p0a> Hello, if I want to delete all the relevant configuration files with apt-get what do I do?
[18:04] <pyrophelia> chadeldridge, you can't put music on an ipod unless it's database has been initialised and it's default fs is hfs+
[18:04] <cyber_cop> right down application minimize bar ??
[18:04] <pyrophelia> initialized *
[18:04] <Obama4Pres> hi
[18:04] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia: i have yet to see that issue i just got a new one last week and plugged and played just fine
[18:05] <DouglasK> How do you get Ubuntu to register it's hostname with a windows domain?
[18:05] <pyrophelia> chadeldrige, iPod's can come in one of two formats, fat, and hfs+.  I just got unlucky.
[18:05] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia:  ahh the MAC version
[18:05] <ryankrizan> Anyone know how to setup a static IP with 8.10?
[18:05] <DouglasK> pyrophelia: You can change it by restoringto defaults on a windows PC.
[18:05] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia: wasnt there some util that converted it to windows format
[18:05] <pyrophelia> DouglasK, I don't own windows
[18:06] <balle_> how do you change the network settings to roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10 i can't seem to find it anywhere...
[18:06] <LavaHot> good for you
[18:06] <p0a> If I have a PC game with two files, .img and .sub, can I use wine to play it?
[18:06] <DouglasK> pyrophelia: that sucks ... maybe visit someone who does.
[18:06] <bkovacs> How many of you switched back to Hardy?.
[18:06] <cody> help with multitouchpad software?
[18:06] <Josesordo> hello
[18:06] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/019105.html
[18:06] <rothchild> how do I get rid of the large balloon telling me that I'm connected to my wireless every single time?
[18:07] <LavaHot> balle_, isn't it  in System->Preferences->Network Config?
[18:07] <Josesordo> damn, Im unlucy...I installed ubunt 8.04 amd64 in my notebook and got a problem with my video card (ATI Radeon HD 2600)...I get white screen when log on..and cant do nothing
[18:08] <core_> hey i need help with nvidia geforce 8400 GS driver
[18:08] <pyrophelia> chadeldridge, mounting is not the problem, I need to be able to write to it
[18:08] <dudi> csilk, where I can find info about support file by brasero?
[18:08] <kerzack> Here's the post I made : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=971073
[18:08] <ryankrizan> Anyone know how to setup a static IP with 8.10?
[18:08] <balle_> LavaHot: no it opens the network connections for some reason...
[18:08] <csilk> dudi, that's something you'll have to look for yourself
[18:08] <pyrophelia> chadelidge, is it possible to disable hfs journaling from within linux?
[18:08] <LavaHot> ).0
[18:09] <sysdoc> What version of X does 8.04 and 8.10 use?
[18:09] <LavaHot> balle_: what settings are you trying to get at?
[18:09] <LavaHot> x11
[18:09] <chadeldridge> pyrophelia: wish i knew .. im just googling for help here
[18:09] <LavaHot> ithink
[18:09] <core_> i am looking for driver for 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
[18:10] <|neon|> ? when i make changes to my desktop the changes go away after i reboot, how can make sure that the changes stay after rebooting?
[18:11] <balle_> LavaHot: i'm trying to set it up to roaming mode because otherwise i can't connect to my own internet, so i'm leeching of my neighbours right now...
[18:11] <core_> !bot
[18:11] <Skry^> core_, System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[18:12] <suleyman> Does anyone know where I can find the rsnap handler for backupninja?
[18:12] <Josesordo> who have a notebook: ASUS F3Sa?...is good?
[18:13] <[AfterLife]> sorry, if there has already been the same question, but i can't find a solution: i've got an asus f3sa notebook with HD2600. i ried to install ubuntu 8.10, but theres porbalby a problem with the support of this viedocard. 8.04 did install normal, but there's some ripple on the screen. question: is there any compatible driver for ubuntu (>8.04) ?
[18:13] <abhay> hello any body had used SCIM with open office 3 ?
[18:14] <LavaHot> Hmm balle_ I think you might just have to add the connection manually to the connections window. There doesn't appear to be a roaming mode anymore.
[18:14] <dudi> csilk, hej when I chose burn image it will burn image or file what are in that image?
[18:15] <balle_> LavaHot: yea so it seems.. i'll just try to work around it, thx for varyfieng it
[18:15] <balle_> veryfeing
[18:15] <koruptid> anybody use conky?
[18:15] <punto> I use firey
[18:15] <koruptid> balle_, (verifying)
[18:16] <punto> but I'm waiting for chromy to come out for linux
[18:16] <dudi> what program do you propose for *.rar?
[18:16] <koruptid> punto, for some reason I can't get it to run from session start... driving me nuts
[18:16] <Pici> !rar | dudi
[18:16] <LavaHot> balle_: I'll keep looking to see if there's another way
[18:16] <hanasaki> what shold the permissions and ownership of /tmp be?
[18:16] <usuario_> hello i m spain
[18:16] <Pici> !es | ubottu
[18:16] <balle_> LavaHot: thx me too
[18:16] <frosterrj> morning all....
[18:17] <punto> koruptid: sorry, I was just making a joke (conky sounds like a pet name for konqueror)
[18:17] <koruptid> punto, do you have a link for firey?
[18:17] <Cod3rZ> =)
[18:17] <punto> that would be firefox :)
[18:17] <koruptid> punto, nah.... it is a desktop performance widget
[18:17] <frosterrj> thinking about dumping my PCLOS install and replacing with Intrepid...biggest errata I should be aware of (for desktop P4 3ghz Dell Dimension).
[18:18] <koruptid> punto, runs very well too.... with the exception of it refusing to run at login... :(
[18:18] <frosterrj> dont really want to give up DigiKam, most other stuff I can live without
[18:19] <prince_jammys> hanasaki: 1777
[18:19] <DouglasK> So, anyone here know dhcp well/
[18:19] <frosterrj> DouglasK: you shouldnt NEED to know anything...it's magic....:)
[18:21] <DouglasK> frosterrj: LOL... Ok then.  My ubuntu box is not registering it's host name with the local dns (windows corp network)
[18:21] <[AfterLife]> Is there any ati mobility hd2600 support in ubuntu 8.10 or 8.04?
[18:21] <DouglasK> frosterrj: as it's not dhcp at issue, any ideas?
[18:21] <exsolved> Anyone know how to get bluetooth to work at login _and_ recognized after login? Currently must run sudo hidd --search
[18:21] <exsolved>  after boot.
[18:21] <steph291> hi everyone !
[18:22] <steph291> I'm using livecd ubuntu intrepid and...
[18:22] <steph291> I want to use persistent home but HOW ?
[18:22] <steph291> I read the documentation on ubuntu.org
[18:22] <steph291> but it's not working
[18:22] <sysdoc> Command to use to logout of x session?
[18:22] <koruptid> steph291, could you link that codument please?
[18:23] <koruptid> *document
[18:23] <steph291> it's in a forum ubuntu.com, search for "persistent home"
[18:23] <msshams> i have a 13" wide laptop. when i change lcd to RGP port, video projection can't show left and right of my screen, because my screen resolution is wide. when i change it to 1024*768 don't event happen. please help me that how can i setup dual monitor settings. or introduce me an application for this issue.
[18:23] <frosterrj> DouglasK: sounds like a samba issue....
[18:24] <steph291> I have a 1gig usb key
[18:24] <steph291> I have created 2 ext3 partitions
[18:24] <steph291> home-rw and casper-rw
[18:24] <RanyAlbeg> what do you think about the program 'mathomatic'? and is there any other program which is better for solving math problems?
[18:24] <Jeruvy> what usb drives does ubuntu support for installing from?
[18:24] <steph291> I reboot, hit f6, insert "persistent" on the command boot line
[18:25] <steph291> but looks like noshow
[18:25] <LjL> RanyAlbeg: join #ubuntu-bots and ask "list every algebra system", it should have a few others
[18:26] <Welshman> yahoo
[18:26] <Angellow> !compiz
[18:26] <Welshman> for Ibex
[18:26] <Welshman> thanks
[18:26] <steph291> !persistent
[18:26] <|neon|> ? when i make changes to my desktop theme the changes go away after i reboot, how can make sure that the changes stay after rebooting?
[18:26] <Welshman> as always
[18:26] <Welshman> Ibex is well cool
[18:26] <LjL> RanyAlbeg: i can personally recommend qalculate-gtk if you're not looking for something very powerful (still, it can do a lot of symbolic manipulation) but like user friendliness
[18:26] <Welshman> like the new wallpaper
[18:27] <Welshman> how do they do that btw
[18:27] <LjL> !enter | Welshman
[18:27] <DouglasK> frosterrj: we're not running a wins server, i've been told.
[18:27] <Welshman> who does the bunt wallpapers?
[18:28] <LjL> !offtopic
[18:28] <Welshman> LjL prude heh :)
[18:29] <rconan_> is there any way to install an i686 rpm using alien on amd64?
[18:29] <Wipster> is there a way to change the range on the volume control? half way and I can harly hear it full and its just about normal, the drop off is a bit steep
[18:29] <core_> LjL, hello. i need help with nvidia driver...
[18:29] <Ward1983> how do i get the window to setup sound if i have sfce? (i have mythbuntu)
[18:29] <frosterrj> DouglasK: then how would you PDC or whatever know how to authenticate?
[18:29] <Ward1983> xfce i mean
[18:29] <Santolina> a newbie question: if I buy a hardware-controlled RAID array of 4 disks, how should I mount them on ubuntu?  I am right if I suppose they should be detected as just ONE device (like "/dev/sda") and not as FOUR different devices (sda, sdb, sdc, sdd)?  (please note that I said hardware controlled array)
[18:29] <LjL> core_: well state the nature of your problem and perhaps someone can help you
[18:30] <rconan_> Santolina, is it a fakeRAID (like an onboard controller)?
[18:30] <Frijolie> hey all, I'm trying to transfer files between two ubuntu computers via GUI.
[18:30] <Foodcoman> Anyone having good sucess with the  ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3650 in laptops?  Strange stuff here.
[18:30] <Welshman> LjL is on his high horse :)
[18:30]  * regeya points anad laughs at the Welshman 
[18:30] <Frijolie> I can navigate to the other host but I'm gettin permission denied. What am i missing?
[18:30] <core_> LjL, i wanna install driver for nvidia geforce 8400 gs...
[18:30] <Pici> Welshman: The comments aren't needed here.
[18:30] <Welshman> Foodcoman: hd 2400 fine here
[18:30] <core_> i dont know which one i should install
[18:30] <LjL> Wipster: there is no way, however have you made sure that the PCM slider (which is the volume control for digitally generated sound) is set high, as well as the master volume?
[18:31] <Frijolie> er permission denied once I try to copy the files over. both folders source & destination have been shared
[18:31] <LjL> Welshman, you're not making very much sense... i'd rather you stuck to ubuntu support topics
[18:31] <Frijolie> when you transfer files across the network are you using SMB or NFS?
[18:31] <robacarp> xit
[18:31] <robacarp> exit
[18:31] <ninjabuntu> Help! My Desktop is gone... It's there in my home folder with everything there still intact, but I can't change my Background, I cant see the Folder and files I have saved there or anything. I can still access the files just not on the desktop...
[18:31] <Welshman> Pici: what comments, only here to say hello and say thanks for Ibex
[18:31] <Wipster> LjL, ah I have now put pcm and front all the way up, master is a bit more reasonable now, thanks
[18:31] <Welshman> geez
[18:32] <Welshman> nota friendly lot are you on irc bunt
[18:32] <Foodcoman> Welshman:  Starts good once.  Reboot no X environment.  Reboot in windows/ video card is not detected by HAL.  Reboot Is detected by driver, then reboot back into 8.10 is fine.
[18:32] <DouglasK> Frijolie:  to make it easy, install ssh, and use that when you connect up.
[18:32] <core_> LjL, i am installing nvidia-glx-177 for geforcce 8400 gs.. is it ok?
[18:32] <Santolina> rconan_ I really don't know. It is supposed not to be fake, as I told the seller to install me a hardware-controlled RAID ... I am trying to discover if he is trying to "fake" me with a fakeRAID ... since my linux live rescue cd detects them as 4 different devices
[18:32] <Frijolie> DouglasK: but that's all CLI, I would like something GUI
[18:33] <Foodcoman> Welshman: Once I boot 8.10, I cannot reboot directly back into it without booting windows first like it resets the mode/status of the Video card.
[18:33] <Welshman> Foodcoman: its a wonder they have fglrw working with xorg 7.4
[18:33] <Cod3rZ> m
[18:33] <Welshman> its not supported by ati
[18:33] <chrziz> I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless router since I upgraded to another router. All other devices can connect fine, even using the same settings. Ubunutu shows it but wont connect. Any suggestions?
[18:33] <Welshman> *fglrx I mean
[18:33] <Foodcoman> Works great once in.  Other than video playback, messed up.
[18:33] <LjL> core_: not sure, i'm still on Hardy
[18:33] <rconan_> Santolina, do you have a dedicated RAID card or is it installed on the motherboard?
[18:33] <PastorBones> I just had to replace my board/chip and now I have no sound...it's a new onboard soundcard...how to I get linux to see/recognize it?
[18:34] <Welshman> Foodcoman:  its to do with xorg 7.4
[18:34] <DouglasK> Frijolie: once it's installed, you can use it via da
[18:34] <core_> LjL,  oh ok hanks
[18:34] <elementz> how can i split the output of tail -f, so that it is directed to standard output and at the same time to a log file?
[18:34] <Welshman> be thankful for small blessings
[18:34] <Foodcoman> Welshman: I will wait for them.... Loving the distro.
[18:34] <DouglasK> Frijolie: once it's installed, you can use it via Places, connect to server
[18:34] <Welshman> I dont use desktop effects really
[18:34] <Welshman> just minimal
[18:34] <gkahla> elementz: man tee
[18:34] <Welshman> nice to know they work though
[18:34] <Frijolie> DouglasK: I've got ssh installed, how to I connect? Sorry I'm not familiar with SSH
[18:34] <Dominik> Question: is Ubuntu more resource intensive then XP Pro? I feel like Ubuntu lags a bit more often then XP would (however in my opinion this rythem music box is incredibly resource intensive, for a freakin music player)
[18:34] <elementz> gkahla: thx
[18:35] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks
[18:35] <gkahla> elementz: it forks things along 2 streams
[18:35] <DouglasK> Ok, now from the other machine, goto Places, Connect To Server, set the protocol to SSH, put in your username on the remote machine, and you're good to go.
[18:35] <LjL> Dominik: it's very hard to quantify "resource intensiveness" in a general way.
[18:35] <regeya> anyone else have problems with joysticks in intrepid?  under hardy, once I'd downgraded wine to 1.1.3, I even had windows games work fine, joystick and all.  now, not so much...but my joypad moves the mouse pointer around :->
[18:35] <Foodcoman> Welshman: Thanks mate.
[18:36] <elementz> gkahla: so i would to it like this: vmstat | tee -a log.txt ?
[18:36] <Welshman> :)
[18:36] <gkahla> is seahorse supposed to be a password manager (like KeePassX or Revelation)? or am i misunderstanding it's purpose?
[18:36] <Welshman> thanks to bunt heh
[18:36] <Welshman> they just need to keep up a bit lol
[18:36] <Dominik> LjL: 1. I belive the rythem music player takes too much CPU time, 2. and what the hell is up with the resource monitor? it eats 44% of my cpu time (granted it is 800 Mhz, but windows task manager would never do that)
[18:36] <LjL> regeya: heard about that before
[18:36] <LjL> regeya: i'll see if i can dig up the bug report
[18:36] <ninjabuntu> Anyone know why I can only see the contents of my Desktop in Nautilus and not where it should show up?
[18:37] <gkahla> elementz: looks right - your output should show up on stdout and in log.txt
[18:37] <Foodcoman> Welshman: This Lenovo Thinkpad W500 really new.  Im pleased with how well it does work so far out of the box.  Best experience I have had so far.
[18:37] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks
[18:37] <regeya> LjL:  Cool, thanks!  I'd looked a bit last night (been hectic here of late) but you probably know more what to look for
[18:37] <elementz> gkahla: great tx
[18:37] <Dominik> LjL: so in other words is there a resource monitor alternative that uses no noticable amount of CPU time so that I can have it running constantly in a corner of the screen
[18:37] <Welshman> I had a hp zv5000 a while ago
[18:37] <zetharx> when i mount a usb drive, permissions are only set for root.  what do i need to do in order to automatically have permissions of mounted directories
[18:38] <kanoth> Hi I'm having trouble installing 8.10 (ADM64) I keep getting a CRC error after i leave the load menu
[18:38] <Santolina> rconan_ I think there should be a card since it comes with a manual for an "Adaptec Serial ATA RAID controller" (1210SA)
[18:38] <Welshman> Foodcoman:  next is an acer gemstone, they look cool
[18:38] <Welshman> hope bunt installs on it
[18:38] <LjL> Dominik: the system monitor does take up a lot of CPU
[18:38] <M4d3L> any free software on windows to burn my ubuntu Iso image?
[18:38] <Foodcoman> Welshman: Just a couple audio things and the video problem, but mostly great.
[18:38] <Welshman> usual linux stuff
[18:39] <Jeruvy> kanoth: try a fresh download..yours sounds corrupt.
[18:39] <Dominik> LjL: yes, so is there an alternative that does not? sorry if I miss expressed myself earlier
[18:39] <papegaaij> hi all, i need some help with fixing nfs, the mount becomes stale after several hours
[18:39] <kanoth> ok
[18:39] <saschahl> regeya: the joystick moves the mouse around? can you paste the output of 'lshal' for me somewhere?
[18:39] <Welshman> geez thzy dont have the budget like windows and mac :)
[18:39] <LjL> Dominik, depends what you want to monitor, for instance if you want to have graphs for CPU, RAM and I/O you can simply install the multiload monitor panel applet and put it on your panel
[18:39] <Cod3rZ> .
[18:39] <depape> hi
[18:39] <Dominik> LjL: sounds great how would I do that?
[18:39] <knoppix> can tell me somebody how can i extract a zip file with password protect
[18:39] <PastorBones> Can anyone tell me how to fix my sound? New board - no sound...dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source tells me alsa isn't installed
[18:39] <knoppix> HELP
[18:39] <LjL> Dominik, "top" is certainly less resource intensive, but also a bit less user friently ;)
[18:40] <Foodcoman> Welshman: I hope Canonical can get profitable.  I Love Kubuntu/Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Welshman> knoppix:  enter the password
[18:40] <Santolina> rconan_ this is a new computer, and I am so new to both RAID and Linux ... but I want to be sure the RAID is actually hardware controlled (it is working on Win XP but they sold me an already installed system so I wonder if it is really hardware or software controlled RAID)
[18:40] <rconan_> Santolina, that's a fakeRAID card
[18:40] <zetharx> welshman: lol
[18:40] <gkahla> PastorBones: have you tried 'alsaconfig' from the command line?
[18:40] <Welshman> Foodcoman:  try xubuntu too, well cool blue
[18:40] <rconan_> Santolina, you would have to install dmraid
[18:41] <PastorBones> command not found
[18:41] <Dominik> LjL: i have had two days on Ubuntu, so youll have to tell me exactly how to install it, I figure itll go something like sudo apt-get install
[18:41] <Welshman> zetharx:  hackers heh
[18:41] <Miesco> How do I find out what was updated in the kernel update?
[18:41] <runpain2_> how to change from kdm to GDM display management for logon window
[18:42] <Santolina> thank you rconan_ ... what would actually be an example of a not-fake RAID?  I guess I should claim to the seller because of this
[18:42] <kanoth> Dominik: did you burn it to CD
[18:42] <Foodcoman> Welshman: Lighter desktop xubuntu right?  Have played little in past.
[18:42] <Guest47321> Hi how do i give one user access to another users files?
[18:42] <Welshman> runpain2_:  I never mix the 2
[18:42] <depape> i just bought and Samsung NC10 and installed Ubuntu, now i actiavated backports and now i have 2 active wlan hardware drivers in the hardware drivers gui utility, but iwconfig still says "no wireless extension", what can i do?
[18:42] <Dominik> kanoth: ha what? ubuntu? yes
[18:42] <balle__> does anyone know how to enter roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10? like the terminal code or something?
[18:42] <LjL> Dominik: just right click on your panel and do "Add applet", then look for "System monitor". an alternative to that is the package "hardware-monitor"
[18:42] <Welshman> Foodcoman:   if you have a nice pc the lighter stuff does not matter
[18:43] <runpain2_> can i change them though is what i asked
[18:43] <Welshman> Foodcoman:  for me the DE in xubuntu is a bit small
[18:43] <Jeruvy> Santolina: unless you 'bought' a raid card, it's fake raid.
[18:43] <porter1> Anyone know if Quadro cards are supported in Ubuntu?
[18:43] <LjL> Dominik: i suggest that you then go to the preferences and make it update a little less often than the default 500ms, otherwise it'll still take up perhaps a bit too much CPU
[18:43] <Foodcoman> Welshman: Dual core 2.8, 4 gig and 7200 rpm 160 gig laptop.  Does well.
[18:43] <Guest47321> porter1:  they are :)
[18:43] <Welshman> Foodcoman:  nice change though
[18:43] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks
[18:43] <porter1> The most recent Quadros as well?
[18:44] <depape> is here someone with an Samsung NC10 and wlan experience?
[18:44] <Dominik> LjL: even at 3 sec update I still found it to take too much cpu time, the difference of activly monitoring it and not is 20% cpu load (at 3 sec update)
[18:44] <Wipster> if I'm downloading a torrent and a file is completed I double click it and rythembox opens up to play it but doesn;t actualy start playing it I have to double click again to actualy play it
[18:44] <Welshman> Foodcoman:  no problem with any DE your pc :)
[18:44] <rconan_> Santolina, I don't know, but that is definitely fakeRAID
[18:44] <Guest47321> porter1:  not sure about that check nvidias homepage
[18:44] <Wipster> how can I stop that?
[18:44] <runpain2_> Welshman,
[18:44] <Santolina> Jeruvy I said the computer I bought comes with a manual for an "Adaptec Serial ATA RAID controller" (1210SA)
[18:44] <balle__> does anyone know how to enter roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10? like the terminal code or something?
[18:44] <LjL> Dominik: but i'm not talking about the system monitor, i'm talking about the system monitor *applet*. it's not the same animal.
[18:44] <runpain2_> can i do that
[18:44] <Guest47321> Hi how do i give one user access to another users files?
[18:44] <Welshman> runpain2_:  looking
[18:45] <papegaaij> i don't get it
[18:45] <Welshman> runpain2_:  sure
[18:45] <porter1> Guest, change the folder permissions for that person
[18:45] <Cod3rZ> .
[18:45] <papegaaij> the network filesystem is working for a couple of hours, then it stops and i can't mount it anymore untill i reboot the system
[18:45] <Santolina> Ok rconan_ but ... a not-fake RAID of 4 disk could be detected as a single device? I mean, just /dev/sda insteda of 4 different devices
[18:45] <knoppix> HEY IS HERE A CRACKER?
[18:45] <X4D-> Guest47321, to change file permissions you can use the chmod command, example: sudo chmod -R 754 directory/
[18:45] <Welshman> runpain2_:  you just have to change a conf file
[18:45] <papegaaij> all other network traffic is fine: nis, ssh, ping, nat
[18:46] <alec> i have a flash drive that i cant reformat, the error message says that the files are read only, is there a way i can wipe this and reformat? i have thied mounting and unmounting the drive.
[18:46] <knoppix> I WANT TO CRAC A ZIP FIILE
[18:46] <Welshman> runpain2_:  which one I dont know
[18:46] <Welshman> SuSE user here till recently
[18:46] <Pici> knoppix: We don't support that here, and please lay off the capslock.
[18:46] <Jeruvy> Santolina: what does the manual say?
[18:46] <runpain2_>  i think i found it
[18:46] <JCA-Denmark> porter1: yea but haw with chown? or chmod
[18:46] <JCA-Denmark> how
[18:46] <noodlesgc> knoppix: sudo apt-get install fcrackzip
[18:46] <alec> is there any way i can give the flash drive a different mount location via properties?
[18:46] <knoppix> ok pici
[18:46] <noodlesgc> knoppix: it will take forever
[18:46] <Welshman> runpain2_:  its usually something real simple
[18:47] <Appi> Ubuntu is not working properly as it was
[18:47] <JCA-Denmark> knoppix: why you need a cracker?
[18:47] <kooparg> could someone explain me why intrepid ibex is supported until 2010 and hardy until 2011?
[18:47] <knoppix> i want to crack a file
[18:47] <LjL> !illegal | knoppix
[18:47] <LjL> !caps | knoppix
[18:47] <pyrophelia> when you see an error like 'an application is preventing the volume from being unmounted' how do you find out what the application is?
[18:47] <noodlesgc> kooparg Hardy has long term support
[18:47] <kooparg> why intrepid doesnt?
[18:48] <runpain2_> vi /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[18:48] <X4D-> JCA-Denmark, chown changes the files owner, chmod changes the permissions of owner, group and other
[18:48] <JCA-Denmark> X4D ive tried chmoding al files and dir 777 stil getting premission denied what can i be missing?
[18:48] <Dominik> LjL: thankyou problem solved, now I can monitor my CPU without it bogging me down
[18:48] <Welshman> runpain2_:  go for it, but do a back up
[18:48] <Frijolie> when logging into a remote machine with SSH, do you have to have a user account on the target host?
[18:48] <Pici> Frijolie: Yes.
[18:48] <balle__> does anyone know how to enter roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10? like the terminal code or something?
[18:49] <Pici> Frijolie: It doesn't need to be the same name as your current account though.
[18:49] <testi> I want to install the setfcaps tool, but it's not contained in libcap. Where can I get it from?
[18:49] <alec> unable to mount volume on flash drive?
[18:49] <Appi> Hi what is this error mean Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'cursor'.
[18:49] <knoppix> hay .. i cant find the package
[18:49] <LF|Irssi_> Dominik: Htop is really nice too, its like top but way more feature rich and it doesnt bog down the system, you have to install it though. its in apt-get :)
[18:49] <Welshman> btw folks, startup manger is well cool, just install it from add/remove
[18:49] <Santolina> Jeruvy I am so newbie to understand how to install this card ... that's the part I trusted the seller ... what I am asking here is:   if this WERE a real HARDWARE-controlled RAID, how should it be detected and mounted on Linux?   as a single device?   or as 4 different devices?     In other words ... which is the advantage or disadvantage of a REAL hardware controlled RAID, regarding the...
[18:49] <Frijolie> Pici: hmm, all I'm trying to to is transfer files between to local computers on my home network
[18:49] <Santolina> ...difficulties of mounting it on Linux?
[18:50] <Frijolie> Pici: is SSH overkill?
[18:50] <X4D-> JCA-Denmark, well try this "sudo chmod -R 777 filename" 777 gives read, write and execute permissions to everyone (which is not very safe)
[18:50] <Pici> Frijolie: Not at all, But you still need to have a way to authenticate to the remote machine.
[18:50] <karsten> knoppix: /join #knoppix
[18:50] <MrPrise> hello
[18:50] <Appi> Hello please help me
[18:50] <LjL> regeya: can't find it
[18:50] <Ward1983> how do i get the window to setup sound if i have xfce? (i have mythbuntu)
[18:50] <karsten> X4D-: Bad advice.
[18:51] <Frijolie> Pici: which is the easiest way to authenticate between machines? Can't you only accept connections from the local network (192.168.1.*)
[18:51] <saml> how can I forward all emails sent to my server to some other email?
[18:51] <Jeruvy> Santolina: thats great and all, but what does the ubuntu HCL say?
[18:51] <balle__> does anyone know how to enter roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10? like the terminal code or something?
[18:51] <JCA-Denmark> X4d, thanks it workde must have done somthing wrong before :D
[18:51] <MrPrise> I have upgraded my ubuntu on my laptop to intrepid ibex and I have freezes almost always with clutter. it seems to video driver problem
[18:51] <karsten> saml: Create a .forward file.  Google or give me a sec on syntax.
[18:52] <Santolina> what is ubuntu HCL Jeruvy?
[18:52] <karsten> saml: You can also use /etc/aliases to do this systemwide.
[18:52] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks
[18:52] <X4D-> JCA-Denmark, I dont suggest you keep 777, better change that to 754.
[18:52] <Jeruvy> Santolina: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[18:52] <LjL> JCA-Denmark: you do realize that it won't make *one* user read/write to the other's file, but it will make *every* user able to do so?
[18:52] <karsten> saml: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/01/msg02569.html
[18:52] <Pici> Frijolie: No, you need to have an ssh server running on the remote machine and a user and some way to authenticate, either key based or password based.
[18:52] <karsten> saml: google '.forward syntax'
[18:52] <saml> karsten: thank you very much!!!!!!
[18:53] <JCA-Denmark> LjL yes
[18:53] <knoppix> i want to extract a zip file with password .. .can somebody help me?>/?????
[18:53] <knoppix> ?????????????
[18:53] <Frijolie> Pici: can you just have a password which isn't associated with a username set up?
[18:53] <JCA-Denmark> LjL is there a way i can allow only one user to the files?
[18:53] <papegaaij> well, this is leaving me really puzzled, when i try to mount the filesystem, i do see the mount request at the server, and it is authenticated, but then nothing happens
[18:53] <Jeruvy> knoppix: man tar
[18:53] <Pici> Frijolie: No. ssh doesn't work like that.
[18:53] <knoppix> what tar?
[18:53] <lianimator> What should be the permission of your home folder?
[18:53] <karsten> knoppix: /join #knoppix.  Google for zip file crack, depends on implemntation.
[18:53] <Frijolie> Pici: I do have ssh installed on both machines
[18:53] <X4D-> JCA-Denmark, yes you can create a group for those files and add the user you want to share the files with to that group
[18:53] <LjL> JCA-Denmark: you create a group for those two users, then you make the first user set the files s/he wants the the other to see as belonging to that group
[18:53] <Appi> ubuntu is not able to detect the graphics card driver or something
[18:54] <Pici> Frijolie: Do you have a user on both machines?
[18:54]  * lupine_85 appears to have been reassimilated into the Ubuntu collective
[18:54] <Appi> can anyone help me
[18:54] <LjL> JCA-Denmark: in practical terms, "sudo addgroup groupname", then "sudo adduser user1 groupname", "sudo adduser user2 groupname", then for files user1 wants to share, "chgrp groupname filename"
[18:54] <JCA-Denmark> X4D-: LjL thanks you 2 :D
[18:54] <Frijolie> Pici: no, I don't have a user account set up on the remote machine
[18:55] <Pici> Frijolie: Then you can't use ssh.
[18:55] <lianimator> knoppix: right-click: extract here?
[18:55] <alec> what do i do about a flash drive that wont mount?
[18:55] <Frijolie> Pici: is there another way?
[18:55] <karsten> Appi: lspci | grep -i vga
[18:55] <karsten> Appi: What's your card?
[18:55] <Dominik> LjL: I just installed htop, now where do I find it?
[18:55] <karsten> alec: Depends on how it doesn't mount.
[18:55] <LF|Irssi_> Dominik: just type htop in a terminal
[18:55] <lupine_85> surprisingly clean, despite it's insistence on rebooting for trivial matters (ibex)
[18:55] <Pici> Frijolie: Do you have any access on this remote computer? at all?
[18:55] <balle__> does anyone know how to enter roaming mode in ubuntu 8.10? like the terminal code or something?
[18:55] <LjL> Dominik: you type "htop" in a console. htop is not a GUI program.
[18:56] <lianimator> What does dwrxrwxrwx send for?
[18:56] <knoppix> the file have password
[18:56] <alec> karsten: it has an incorrect mounting location.
[18:56] <genii> knoppix: (sudo) unzip -P PASSw0rD zipfile.zip
[18:56] <karsten> knoppix: http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-crack-zip-files-password-in-linux.html
[18:56] <Jeruvy> balle__: are you talking wifi?  there is no roaming in wifi, either connected or not.
[18:56] <karsten> alec: Pastebin command and error.
[18:56] <Dominik> LjL: oh wow that is sexy
[18:56] <lianimator> Oh I've guessed it. d is for directory
[18:57] <balle__> Jeruvy: yea wifi, and why did they take that out? it was good
[18:57] <lianimator> read/write/execute?
[18:57] <Welshman> anyone using inventel livebox with bunt?
[18:57] <LF|Irssi_> Dominik: it was me that recommeneded htop not LjL , but you're welcome :p
[18:57] <LjL> Dominik: "top" is also installed by default, and started the same way
[18:57] <karsten> Frijolie: You're trying to do what?  Bulk-transfer files?  I'd recommend mc or lftp both of which support numerous transfer protocols, including ssh if it's available.
[18:57] <Welshman> wifi that is
[18:57] <Appi> karsten: my browser is unable to display the images in both windows and ubuntu
[18:57] <karsten> Frijolie: But fall back to ftp and others if not.
[18:57] <uman> Hi, i managed to share my internet connection with my 360 with firestarter but if im downloading things on my computer, i lag on xbox live. Could anyone please help me configure the quality of service (QoS) so that all the connections going to and from my xbox 360 (it always has the same ip and is always connected to the same network interface card) get the highest priority? thanks
[18:58] <knoppix> i couldn't find the packadge ...
[18:58] <Dominik> LF|Irssi_: thank you then, it is sexy
[18:58] <karsten> Appi: Um, you think you have a graphics card problem when you've got a GUI up and running because your web browser won't display images?
[18:58] <X4D-> Samba is not using the password set in smbpasswd but instead the password of the account on the server, the users are the same on both but I made different passwords, can anyone explain to me how to change this?
[18:58] <knoppix> i couldn't find the packadge ...
[18:58] <karsten> Appi: Your gfx card *isn't* your problem.
[18:58] <Dominik> what does "nice" mean, Htop gives me the option to "nice" a processes
[18:58] <knoppix> i couldn't find the packadge ...
[18:58] <LF|Irssi_> Dominik: it is indeed :)
[18:58] <karsten> knoppix: Suggest you do your own research.  /ignored.
[18:58] <Welshman> !offtopic
[18:58] <knoppix> ..ok ......
[18:59] <knoppix> 10x man
[18:59] <alec> Karsten: sorry im not sure whast that means
[18:59] <Appi> karsten:  what should i do now?
[18:59] <Pici> !paste | alec
[18:59] <Welshman> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <Welshman> oops
[18:59] <alec> Pici: thanks
[19:00] <karsten> alec: How are you attemping to mount your flash drive?  I'd suggest 'sudo mount -t vfat <usb device> <mountpoint>' .  Pastebin your comand an any error output.
[19:00] <Dominik> LF|Irssi_: can you tell me what the F7 "nice" command does?
[19:00] <karsten> !tell alec about pastebin
[19:00] <wh1t3_UB> my nautilus says that it is unable to open network locations, eventhough nautilus-share s installed
[19:00] <paiva> brasil
[19:00] <karsten> Dominik: Renices a process.  man nice.
[19:00] <paiva> qual o canal do br?
[19:00] <Dominik> karsten: what does that mean?
[19:00] <karsten> Dominik: Sets execution priority.
[19:00] <karsten> !br
[19:01] <Dominik> Karsten: does that mean it gets priority over others?
[19:01] <LF|Irssi_> Dominik: type man nice in a terminal
[19:01] <Dominik> karsten: in terms of CPU time
[19:01] <rabe> hello everyone
[19:01] <bauchspeck> good evening
[19:01] <karsten> X4D-: Samba password selection is controlled by your samba ocnfiguration.  I don't recall exact settings, either RTFM samba docs, or /join #samba.
[19:01] <Appi> karsten:  what could be the problem?
[19:01] <karsten> Dominik: man nice
[19:01] <steph291> when booting the cd(intrepid), does the option "home=/..." is available ?
[19:01] <karsten> Appi: Until you do what I asked, I have no idea.
[19:02] <Dominik> thanks for the "man nice" i get it now :-[
[19:02] <Slart> Dominik: you set a "nice" value between 0 and 20 and yes it means it will get higher (or lower) priority than other processess.. ie more or less cpu time if your cpu is maxed out
[19:02] <X4D-> karsten, thanks
[19:02] <bauchspeck> after have installed the 8.10, I miss kdeprintfax. where get I get in now?
[19:02]  * steph291 want a persistent home !!! :(
[19:02] <karsten> steph291: ?
[19:03] <Slart> steph291: persistent home? hmm.. why?
[19:03] <Appi> karsten: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[19:03] <alec> karsten: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68019/
[19:03] <rabe> CHANGE SPEED i can change my fsb multiplicator between four and eight in windows. i recognized in a system monitor in ubuntu that this is only four also with external power suply. could anyone tell me how to control this?
[19:03] <wh1t3_UB> what the... if i open nautilus by using a shortcut in places, it is unable to open network locations, if i open it from console, it can :/
[19:03] <adam> hi im looking for some help with screen resolution
[19:03] <steph291> I want to boot from the cd and have a usb key with my home and setting
[19:03] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager setting static IP.  it reverts to dhcp on reboot
[19:03] <Frijolie> Pici: I'm just trying to transfer documents/packages/music between computers
[19:03] <karsten> adam: ask
[19:03] <Dominik> why do I have so many instances of rythem music box and pigin displayed in Htop (20+)?
[19:03] <Slart> steph291: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9893
[19:03] <karsten> steph291: What CD?
[19:04] <steph291> intrepid
[19:04] <karsten> Dominik: Possibly threaded app.
[19:04] <Slart> Dominik: I think htop displays one line per thread by default
[19:04] <karsten> steph291: LiveCD?
[19:04] <steph291> yes
[19:04] <Slart> Dominik: you can change it in htop.. setup or something
[19:04] <Dominik> why would any application have so many threads?
[19:04] <karsten> alec: Not useful
[19:04] <karsten> Dominik: Because that's how it was written.
[19:04] <Slart> Dominik: it's a good thing.. probably decoding threads or something
[19:05] <Appi> karsten: Please see my previous msg.
[19:05] <Guest99408> i have recently installed ubuntu and can get a max resolution of 640x480
[19:05] <rabe> does anyone have an idea?
[19:05] <Pici> Frijolie: If you don't have access to the remote computer and it isn't sharing the files in some way, then you cannot access them.
[19:05] <Slart> Dominik: I'd rather have apps with 20 threads than one thread
[19:05] <lupine_85> so how's this encrypted $HOME/Private directory implemented, anyway? I was expecting cryptoloop but I don't see any entries in fstab
[19:05] <steph291> karsten : will try that
[19:05] <steph291> thanks for the link
[19:05] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager setting static IP.  it reverts to dhcp on reboot
[19:05] <karsten> Dominik: Google linux threading
[19:06] <rabe> does anyone have an idea?
[19:06] <karsten> Appi: Sec.
[19:06] <Guest99408> /exit
[19:06] <Slart> rabe: don't just say "anyone?" or similar stuff.. repeat the whole question instead
[19:06] <Frijolie> Pici: I'm sitting right next to both of them
[19:06] <karsten> Appi: Are you currently able to start/run X?
[19:07] <karsten> rabe: ...and don't repeat.
[19:07] <abbronzato2> hello, but the lts updates are only for the security packages? or the app too will be updated? (here no update since the intrepid release)
[19:07] <rabe> CHANGE SPEED i can change my fsb multiplicator between four and eight in windows. i recognized in a system monitor in ubuntu that this is only four also with external power suply. could anyone tell me how to control this?
[19:08] <karsten> Appi: ??
[19:08] <Appi> karsten: I am new to ubuntu. I think you are taking about X-chat If that is the question answer is yes
[19:08] <YlandeFaran> How should I partition my HD when installing ubuntu?
[19:08] <Allhands> Hi, I'm a new user with some problems. From what I've read I just post the question here?
[19:08] <karsten> Appi: Do you have a graphical desktop up, or are you in console (only text on the display, *no* graphics)?
[19:08] <YlandeFaran> What is this "EFI boot partition"?
[19:08] <hedkandi> hello
[19:09] <karsten> Appi: If you have a graphical desktop, you have a browser/images problem, *NOT* a graphics card problem.
[19:09] <Appi> karsten: Grp desktop
[19:09] <hedkandi> I put a package onto revu.ubuntuwire.com last nite. How do I see if it's arrived?
[19:09] <prince_jammys> Allhands: yes. post a detailed question with your problem and what you've tried so far
[19:09] <karsten> YlandeFaran: New hardware standard, replaces BIOS, standard on Mac hardware, some x86 now.
[19:09] <karsten> Appi: Ok, describe your problem.
[19:10] <Allhands> I have two problems. The first deals with buttons not working. For example when I press enter in google nothing happens or when I press the shutdown system button the screen just goes blank except for the background then hangs there.
[19:10] <ramzess> hello
[19:10] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager setting static IP.  it reverts to dhcp on reboot
[19:11] <rabe> CHANGE SPEED i can change my fsb multiplicator between four and eight in windows. i recognized in a system monitor in ubuntu that this is only four also with external power suply. could anyone tell me how to control this?
[19:11] <karsten> Appi: ?
[19:12] <karsten> chadeldridge: /etc/network/interfaces.bak-0
[19:12] <Appi> karsten: yesterday I took off the hard disk and put it back since that I use get error video and graphics card driver cannot be detected I reconfigured that wil booting
[19:12] <karsten> chadeldridge: erm, /etc/network/interfaces
[19:12] <Allhands> So far I haven't found any information on the problem so I haven't really tried anything yet
[19:12] <Appi> while booting somehow i got
[19:12] <karsten> Appi: Are you in Ubuntu now or are you running another OS?
[19:12] <Appi> karsten: yes
[19:13] <Dominik> interesting Htop does not let me decrease niceness, only increase
[19:13] <karsten> Appi: Nonresponsive
[19:13] <karsten> Dominik: man nice
[19:13] <Appi> karsten: i am in ubuntu
[19:13] <karsten> Dominik: You can't decrease niceness unless you're root.
[19:13] <Falstaf> I am trying to find a "Movie Maker" kind of program for Ubuntu linux ... something to make simple slideshow videos.
[19:13] <Dominik> karsten: so I run sudo Htop?
[19:13] <karsten> Falstaf: kino, I think.  There are also a number of slideshow players.
[19:13] <chadeldridge> karsten: yes i am there but the name in network-manager is not listed in that file, network manager has a card called ifupdown with no mac address.  I would rather just assign my ip in interfaces and remove network-manger all together, is that possible ?
[19:13] <karsten> Dominik: sudo nice <nicevalue> <process>
[19:13] <Frijolie> Pici: I logged in to the computer and can view the contents but now I'm getting permissions problems. The folders are shared
[19:13] <karsten> Dominik: man nice
[19:13] <jvrmrtn> HEllo every body!
[19:14] <karsten> Dominik: You should be detecting a theme here.
[19:14] <darkvertex> ﻿Falstaf: vlender?
[19:14] <Falstaf> Karsten Thank you
[19:14] <Dominik> karsten: ya I ran sudo htop, now it lets me decrease, thanks
[19:14] <Falstaf> Darkventrex thank you
[19:14] <Pici> Frijolie: What kind of permissions problems?
[19:14] <YlandeFaran> karsten: aha, thanks
[19:14] <karsten> Dominik: running top/htop via sudo is dangerous -- you're root and may kill stuff you don't mean to by accident.
[19:14] <Appi> karsten: please see my previous msg
[19:15] <Allhands> The second problem deals with upgrading. I figured the other problem would be fixed if I just upgraded to 8.10. When I try to upgrade it tells me "Authentication failed Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. " My Internet connection is fine and this has been doing this for the last few days
[19:15] <PastorBones> ok, I give up...how do I get this freakin sound to work? I've uninstalled alsa and reinstalled alsa, alsa-utils, & alsa-tools but I still get an error not found when I do alsaconf
[19:15] <Dominik> karsten: thats cool, worst thing is I reinstall ubuntu right?
[19:15] <saml> when i forward email using ~/.forward, is it possible to change From: address to  root@mydomain.com ?
[19:15] <jvrmrtn> Its possibly install geforce4's drivers in intrepid ??
[19:15] <karsten> Appi: Do you have a graphical desktop?  Are you running in GNOME or KDE, for example?  Are there pictures on your monitor, or *only* text?
[19:15] <PastorBones> when I do a test in my sound manager of alsa I get can't open device
[19:15] <Frijolie> Pici: copying from the source and attempting to paste at the destination gets this response "Permission Denied"
[19:16] <Appi> karsten: ITS GUI
[19:16] <karsten> Dominik: Not even that.  Rebooting, maybe.
[19:16] <karsten> Appi: OK. Then why do you think you have a graphics card problem?
[19:16] <PastorBones> How do I get unbuntu to recognize the new onboard sound card?
[19:16] <PastorBones> lspci shows it, so how do I use it?
[19:16] <Appi> karsten: when i was in windows someone in IRC gave this info
[19:16] <karsten> Dominik: In general -- don't run stuff as root, if you do, do it in as limited a mode as possible.  If you want to renice a single process, do it via 'sudo nice' rather than 'sudo htop'.
[19:16] <Dominik> karsten: I have bigger problems right now, ubuntu doesn't like to sleep :( when it wakes up its stubbern and wont move, it keeps acessing the hdd, so no other applications get hdd time, therefore won't run
[19:17] <Neurologic_> I just asked in #xchat-gnome, but I can't seem to get an answer, can someone tell me why the .py I put in my directory for xchat isn't under prefs>scripts and plugins?
[19:17] <Dominik> karsten: thanks for the edvice, turning off sudo Htop and running Htop again
[19:17] <karsten> Dominik: sleep/hibernate, suspend to ram stuff?  Or just trying to spin down your hard drives?
[19:17] <karsten> Dominik: Right.
[19:17] <jvrmrtn> hello everybody, one question: Its possible install geforce4's drivers in intrepid ??
[19:17] <Slart> 20:17 < Neurologic_> I just asked in #xchat-gnome, but I can't seem to get an answer, can someone tell me why the .py I put in my directory for xchat isn't  under prefs>scripts and plugins?
[19:17] <Slart> 20:17 -!- elektrikz is now known as elektrikz[out]
[19:17] <Dominik> karsten: sleep/hibernate, hibernate won't work (not enough space) and sleep has the problem described
[19:17] <Neurologic_> O_o
[19:17] <Slart> oops.. sorry
[19:17] <karsten> Neurologic_: May need to restart xchat.  RTFM on xchat docs to see how to add/modify scripts.  I dont' run xchat.
[19:18] <Dominik> karsten: sorry "suspend"
[19:18] <Pici> Frijolie: How did you get access to the remote computer? And how are you attempting to copy files from one to the other?
[19:18] <Allhands> Does anyone have any idea what is wrong or how to fix it?
[19:18] <karsten> Dominik: You probably didn't create a large enough swap partition.  That needs a disk edit (gparted) or reinstall.  I'm learly about modifying disk partitions *especially* w/o backups, though I hear it almost always works (except when it doesn't).
[19:18] <Appi> karsten: everything is normal in ubuntu but when browsers are not displaying the images in both ubuntu and windows
[19:19]  * Neurologic_ sighs.
[19:19] <Appi> no when
[19:19] <Frijolie> Pici: Hmm. I accessed the remote computer by Places > Connect to server (ip address, username, password)
[19:19] <karsten> Appi: That's a browser problem.
[19:19] <Pici> jvrmrtn: No, not with the version of Xorg that is in Intrepid.  This was noted in Intrepid's release notes.
[19:19] <Dominik> karsten: ya that explains the hibernate, but the suspend?
[19:19] <karsten> Appi: Check to see that your browser is configured to display images.  What browser?
[19:19] <andresmh> how do I check the Ip of the DNS server(s) my DHCP assign to me?
[19:19] <Dominik> karsten: I also don't think im allowed to move or resize anything as most of my disk is ntsf
[19:19] <Appi> karsten: mozilla
[19:19] <Pici> Frijolie: And where are you trying to copy it to? Which directory?
[19:19] <Frijolie> Pici: attempting to copy from source computer navigate to the GUI natuilus folder on the remote machine and paste
[19:19] <karsten> Dominik: Depends somewhat on the HW.  I've had good luck with uswsusp on Debian, not tried yet w/ Ubuntu.
[19:20] <Dominik> karsten: HW?
[19:20] <karsten> Dominik: Hardware.  Specifics of your laptop.  Who'se the vendor, what's the bios, etc.
[19:20] <Frijolie> Pici: Ah, I think I've discovered the problem. I'm trying to paste to another user's /home folder on the remote machine
[19:20] <Allhands> I'll take that as a no. Thanks anyway.
[19:20] <karsten> Dominik: suspend/hibernate isn't fully standardized yet though it's getting pretty good.
[19:20] <andresmh> how can I figure out from the command line what who my DNS server(s) are?
[19:20] <andresmh> as given to me by my dhcp
[19:21] <karsten> Appi: Edit > Preferences > Content > Load images automatically
[19:21] <Dominik> karsten: so you think bigger swap would also fix suspend? also when I was setting up ubuntu it didn't ask me for swap size, it just made it 512
[19:21] <Frijolie> Pici: however, my user account on the remote machine has root privileges...
[19:21] <Appi> karsten: okay i will do that
[19:21] <karsten> Appi: ... or try loading this URL (Google's logo) directly:  http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif
[19:21] <karsten> Dominik: How much RAM on your box ('free' or 'meminfo'
[19:21] <Dominik> karsten: seeing how I have only 512 megs of mem minus 32 for vid it is not wonder that there is not enough space in the swap partition for both my mem and swap
[19:21] <Appi> oka
[19:21] <karsten> Dominik: erm, cat /proc/meminfo
[19:22] <acke> hey, i just got a new mac. and want to install ubuntu, will I have to reinstall osx after a rezise of the mac os x partition ?
[19:22] <Dominik> karsten: 11 megs free :-D
[19:22] <matthieu_> nechhhhhhhhh
[19:22] <RyanPrior> How do I add a package repository via the command line?
[19:22] <matthieu_> ia de sfrancai  la dedan
[19:23] <desrt> hi.  can someone please help me to understand sudo?
[19:23] <karsten> Dominik: How much total?
[19:23] <wacky> I first noticed the problem when I went to the previous release, however I just went to 8.10 and the problem still exists.. When I try and view an avi file with mplayer.. it loads the first frame and then freezes only showing the frame.. if I fastforward I Can get to a new frame but it just sits at the fram and doesnt play the file.. any ideas? I have tried gstreamer-properties with no luck as well as the mplayer config options regarding video ouput
[19:23] <desrt> just as a test, i've added "desrt ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/ls" to sudoers
[19:23] <Dominik> karsten: 480 ram, and 512 swap, only 49 swap free
[19:23] <wacky> it very well may be related to non avi files as well
[19:23] <karsten> Dominik: If you've got more than 512MB on the box, your swap is too small to use as a suspend partition.  2-3x RAM helps there.
[19:23] <Pici> !fr | matthieu_
[19:23] <desrt> i've also tried it like "ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD:"
[19:23] <desrt> but when i run sudo /usr/bin/ls i get asked a password
[19:23] <karsten> Dominik: Hrm.  Not sure then.
[19:23] <genii> desrt: Thats very insecure
[19:23] <desrt> i've tried adding the line to the top of the file, the bottom of the file, in both places at the same time.  no love.
[19:24] <karsten> desrt: Don't do that.
[19:24] <desrt> i know what i want to do
[19:24] <dwxreaper> i can't open synaptic says dpkg interrupted you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[19:24] <Dominik> karsten: I have 512 megs of ram but 32 of those go to vid so I didn't count it, should I have?
[19:24] <dwxreaper> but i run that and it doesn't work??
[19:24] <desrt> i'd just really like to know how to do it
[19:24] <Slart> dwxreaper: have you done that?
[19:24] <genii> desrt: I suggest: man sudoers                   for some examples
[19:24] <dwxreaper> it is doing something with db-common for another program i haven't touched in synatpic in forever..
[19:24] <dwxreaper> slart: i typed that command yeah
[19:24] <desrt> genii; well, that's actually where i figured out the syntax, but it's not working
[19:25] <Dominik> karsten: the utility tells me 480, but 460 megs in use now + 450 megs on swap = 910 megs that need to be stored for suspend
[19:25] <karsten> Dominik: Not sure.
[19:25] <Slart> dwxreaper: and you got some kind of error? tried putting a sudo in front of it?
[19:25] <Appi> karsten:  load image is already checked and the web link you gave dint work. But again I am finding the same error
[19:25] <karsten> Dominik: ... and as I said, bumping swap up is at least something you can test.
[19:25] <genii> desrt: I suggest: The more complete manual is here: http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/man/sudoers.html
[19:25] <karsten> Appi: ??  Is there an error message presented?
[19:25] <RUMMY> !chm
[19:25] <acer-kst> oh oh i've entered english room :P
[19:25] <karsten> Appi: Try 'wget <url>; display <url>' from commandline.  You should see the Google logo.
[19:26] <Dominik> karsten: ya makes sense, thanks, but when i tried to resize with the gui suggested by someone earlier it would not let me do it
[19:26] <RUMMY> how can I open chm files?
[19:26] <karsten> Appi: where <url> is the google image given above.
[19:26] <dwxreaper> slart: i'm running as root
[19:26] <Appi> karsten: and many error Warning: Selector expected.  Ruleset ignored due to bad selector.
[19:26] <dwxreaper> it says db-common flushing administrator password for a program i haven't even worked with forever
[19:26] <dwxreaper> then just ahngs
[19:26] <karsten> Dominik: See what I said about resizing live disk.  It's dicey.  I usually back up, repartition, and restore.  Or you can reinstall (not necessary but sometimes easier if you'r enew).
[19:26] <Appi> karsten:  i will do that
[19:27] <karsten> Appi: screenshot and paste.  You'll need to find a gfx upload site.
[19:27] <desrt> genii; again, the docs agree with what i'm doing
[19:27] <Slart> dwxreaper: well... I guess you'll have to check the manual for this mysterious program
[19:27] <Appi> karsten:  okay
[19:27] <Dominik> karsten: no vital data on disk, I know resizing live is dangerous but, what the hell :P
[19:27] <dwxreaper> Slart: it's cacti a lot of people use it
[19:28] <karsten> Dominik: Live dangerously.  I'd back up /home and go for it.  Don't cry to me if you lose data.
[19:28] <dwxreaper> it's been running forever, and still is
[19:28] <dwxreaper> then when i went to install something else through synaptic there is a problem
[19:28] <darkvertex> ﻿RUMMY: install xchm ot gnochm
[19:28] <Dominik> karsten: as I am in the evaluation phase of ubuntu it is fine for now, when I install it on my gf new lapy (vista) ill make sure to give here a 10 gig swap
[19:28] <karsten> Appi: This site may work for you http://tinypic.com/
[19:28] <karsten> Appi: It's also possible you've got some network block or proxy block on images.
[19:28] <Slart> dwxreaper: you could always try uninstalling cacti
[19:28] <Dominik> karsten: lol this hdd was empty before I put ubuntu on it, but thanks for the concern
[19:28] <karsten> Dominik: 2-3x max installable RAM is my rule of thumb.
[19:29] <dwxreaper> slart: i could would not be good though, there is a big configuration file and rrd databases
[19:29] <psy_fi> ois ppl
[19:29] <genii> desrt: Did you use visudo when editing so that it will catch any syntax problems?
[19:29] <dwxreaper> slart: i can't tell it to ignore cacti
[19:29] <dwxreaper> why is it even messing with that
[19:29] <karsten> Dominik: If your box can take 2-4 GB, set up 8-12 GB swap.  Linux makes better use of RAM than Windows, a lot of apps are RAM-happy, and you can run a h*ll of a lot of stuff, so lots of ram is good.
[19:29] <Dominik> karsten: her lapy will ship with 3 gig, so 6 to 9 I supose, but the resizing, I have resized live partitions under windows before, and as you said it usually works accept for the times it doesn't and your data is gone
[19:29] <Appi> karsten: Oh, okay i am going through your link
[19:30] <karsten> Appi: i just found that, can't recommend, but it's worth a shot.
[19:30] <Dominik> karsten: I have found exactly that to be a weak point of linux, and this distro of ubuntu doesn't like me for haveing only 512 megs of ram
[19:30] <Slart> dwxreaper: it might have been some kind of update.. not sure if you can just tell it to ignore one package.. Apt is a big program full of features, wouldn't surprise me if there was a way
[19:30] <Dominik> karsten: im sure my gf's new lapppy with 3 gig will fix that however
[19:31] <Appi> karsten: but 'wget <url>; display <url>' command not found
[19:31] <Anza> Thunderbird keeps saying "negative vibes from..." for my hotmail and live accounts, does anyone knows how to fix it?
[19:31] <jarda_> ...
[19:32] <indigenous> Hey.. Any you guys get ubuntu to work with a revison 4 st330 modem?
[19:32] <Appi> wher is pastbin
[19:33] <Appi> got it was hiding
[19:33] <acke> okay so now i want some new partitions. i should use disk util i guess. :)
[19:33] <yusuo> hi need some help changing the default monitor in intrepid, can anyone help
[19:34] <TJ-42> is it possible to have different screen resolutions in different desk screens?
[19:34] <urza> hello niggers.
[19:34] <LF|Irssi_> O.o
[19:34] <RUMMY> can I open hta files in ubuntu?
[19:35] <Appi> karsten: please help to how should i paste the screen shot
[19:35] <Frijolie> Pici: do you have to change permissions on files prior to sending them over, so another username on the remote computer can access them?
[19:35] <Kinks> when I open a new X server on display 3, my mouse button mappings are different, any ideas as to why?
[19:35] <Frijolie> Pici: RWX
[19:36] <Omar87> I'm having a problem in burning and copying cd's , the process keeps failing although nothing is wrong with my cd's, I'm not sure what the problem is, but it's not with the cd's. Please help
[19:36] <ltghesp> does ubuntu 8.10 supports encrypted home dirs on installation??
[19:36] <Myrtti> ltghesp: using the alternate installation disk
[19:36] <Pici> Frijolie: I dont know how that works with the gui, but it you have root access you should be able to modify anyway.
[19:37] <Frijolie> pici: modify on source or destination?
[19:37] <KingOfDos> Someone a suggestion for a Hauppauge PVR-150 (tv card) using ubuntu 8.10?
[19:37] <Omar87> It seems like there's something wrong with Ubuntu itself, because the same problem happens in both Brasero and K3B.
[19:37] <Omar87> Please help.
[19:37] <Pici> Frijolie: Both, since you're pasting as your user on your computer, right?
[19:38] <KingOfDos> I can tune to a station, write it to an MPG file and afther that open it using another computer. But I don't have any audio.
[19:38] <ltghesp> Myrtti: how should I do that? I only saw the option 'private dir' nothing for the whole home dir
[19:38] <Dominik> does linux have mem restrictions as in maximum memory supported per core?
[19:38] <Frijolie> Pici: yeah I would really like to paste from my user on source to another user on remote
[19:39] <KingOfDos> I was searching for a audio device (/dev/au* and/or /dev/radio*), but i can't find one. So i'll beleave that the IVTV driver (or something else) is making a drop.
[19:39] <crescendo_> FriedCPU, try highlighting and click both mouse buttons
[19:39] <Pici> Frijolie: Then you may need to set the owner of the files to that new user after you've copied them.
[19:39] <djhash> Dominik: every OS has their limitations.. in 32 bits they have 2^32 bits of memory.. in 64 bits 2^64...
[19:39] <crescendo_> Frijolie / FriedCPU
[19:39] <noelferreira> how can i add two files to an .iso image and then burn it with those files. Those files are for update my bios (i don't have floppy drive) and the .iso is a bootable MS-DOS cd.
[19:40] <djhash> Dominik: but its not limited to per-core (at least i dont think so)
[19:40] <Frijolie> crescendo_ huh?
[19:40] <KingOfDos> I searched/tested for 2 days now how i can get the audio from that TV card working. But i just can't find how.
[19:40] <Pici> Frijolie: I suppose that would be an option in the right click>properties, but I'm not too familiar with copying files through the GUI, I prefer the command line personally.
[19:40] <_dennister> k...just upgraded to ubuntu intrepid and while dhcp worked at first, now it doesn't...can someone help me with this please?
[19:41] <djhash> Dominik: every core will have access to the memory addressable by the operating system..
[19:41] <OlMightyGreek> hi
[19:41] <mib_bzm4b7> hi guys i am having issues with installing ubuntu on olpc xo and they said you guys can help
[19:41] <_dennister> can't even ping the modem/router, and the way to get the network going seems to have changed...
[19:41] <Dominik> djhash: the 2^32 is a limit per core
[19:41] <Frijolie> Pici: I don't mind CLI, I'm just trying to make it more Windoze like for the other new Linux user on the remote. He just installed Intrepid yesterday and it's the first time he's ever used Linux
[19:42] <noelferreira> how can i add two files to an .iso image and then burn it with those files. Those files are for update my bios (i don't have floppy drive) and the .iso is a bootable MS-DOS cd.
[19:42] <Na-Fiann> Hi, I can't eject my cd anymore after upgrading to intrepid. It keeps spinning, if i hit eject (on any place) it stops spinning for a while and then resumes
[19:42] <LF|Irssi_> #Kubuntu is not answering, but i installed KDE4 last night on ubuntu, everything is fine, but Vmware server wont load, do i have to reinstall vmware server?
[19:42] <OlMightyGreek> i have a problem.. i just installes 8.10 and it is not possible to load ubunto. the recovery mode works. but in normal boot it just freezes and shows a black screen
[19:42] <mib_bzm4b7> Na-Fiann: mabey you need drivers, check the cables...
[19:42] <djhash> Dominik: if the cores are 32 bits cpus, then 32 bits is the limit. but if they are 64.. then 64 is the limit.. each core will access the full memory available..
[19:42] <Pici> Na-Fiann: That was actually addressed in the Intrepid release notes, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#CD%20eject%20problems
[19:43] <Kinks> what might be causing a new x display to lose my mouse button mapping? it's using the same xorg.conf file as my original display
[19:43] <medfly> hi guys
[19:44] <mib_bzm4b7> do you guys know
[19:44] <_dennister> could someone pls help me with basic networking on intrepid?
[19:44] <mib_bzm4b7> it gives me ext2_get_inode errors trying to load, i checked the drives with every tool and it says it is fine
[19:44] <medfly> i've set up a wireless connection... but for some reason, i have packetloss to the router and a lot of trouble surfing or using the internet. the signal is ok (70 to 90 / 100, signal level around -50 to -60 dBm)... am i doing anything wrong, or thats to be expected of a wireless connection?
[19:45] <mbahxj> 进来看看
[19:45] <noelferreira> how can i add two files to an .iso image and then burn it with those files. Those files are for update my bios (i don't have floppy drive) and the .iso is a bootable MS-DOS cd.
[19:45] <Appi> hi any please help me , how should i send a screen shot here
[19:45] <Pici> !zh | mbahxj
[19:45] <Dominik> djhash: motherboards are capable of assigning each core its only set of memory banks, furthere more an intellegient OS can also split up a program into several packs of size smaller the 2^32
[19:45] <mbahxj> thanks
[19:45] <mib_bzm4b7> appi: pastebin.com
[19:45] <aboSamoor> how can I run this eid@eid-laptop:~$ python gtk2.py instead of eid@eid-laptop:~$ python ~/code/python/gtk2.py  without moving the file ?
[19:45] <icqnumber> why is there no documentation for 8.10 on https://help.ubuntu.com/, will it follow soon
[19:46] <icqnumber> +?
[19:46] <Falstaf> Darkvertex ... did you mean blender??
[19:46] <mib_bzm4b7> icqnumber: of cource theres no docs there you added a ,
[19:46] <danbhfive> aboSamoor: you would have to add that location to your path.  Not sure how to do that though...
[19:47] <darkvertex> ﻿Falstaf: yes, sorry for the mistake in spelling
[19:47] <icqnumber> mib_bzm4b7, what do you mean?
[19:47] <LF|Irssi_> #Kubuntu is not answering, but i installed KDE4 last night on ubuntu, everything is fine, but Vmware server wont load, do i have to reinstall vmware server?
[19:47] <Falstaf> it just doesn't seem that difficult to take some still pictures and transitions --- and create a video ... avi or mp4
[19:47] <mib_bzm4b7> icqnumber: just kidding
[19:48] <versus> hi does someone know how I can install aircrack on intrepid?
[19:48] <mib_bzm4b7> icqnumber: do you mean my issue?
[19:48] <Appi> <mib_bzm4b7: how should i paste the image, I am already here in pastebin.com
[19:48] <vurv> umm.. is there a way to install blubuntu-look package without it removing human-theme/ubuntu-artwork/ubuntu-desktop?
[19:48] <vurv> the last one especially
[19:48] <noelferreira> how can i add two files to an .iso image and then burn it with those files. Those files are for update my bios (i don't have floppy drive) and the .iso is a bootable MS-DOS cd. Please it is urgent!
[19:48] <Frijolie> what's the difference between Places > Connect to Server and Places > Network ?
[19:48] <Frijolie> Protocols?
[19:48] <Pici> versus: The package name is aircrack-ng, use your favorite package management application
[19:49] <PriceChild> Frijolie: network shows existing configured conectinos
[19:49] <mib_bzm4b7> appi: oops, sorry not there
[19:49] <janio> alguem ai fala portugues?
[19:49] <Pici> !pt | janio
[19:49] <Frijolie> PriceChild: "configured"... mapped network drive(s)?
[19:49] <Appi> kropcik: please use  pastebin
[19:49] <mib_bzm4b7> kropcik: wtf?
[19:50] <vurv> anyone?
[19:50] <PriceChild> Frijolie: that sort of thing yes.
[19:50] <Pici> kropcik was banned, feel free to ignore the disruption.
[19:50] <mib_bzm4b7> kropcik wants to send you the file https://www.mibbit.com/dcc/v3kJguSn
[19:50] <kilo7> hi guys, i use ubuntu 8.10 on my vps, when i login with a non-root account on my sftp client, logging in works, but when i try to rename files, or create dirs, it says permission denied
[19:50] <djhash> Dominic: that is true.. but just because they are capable doesn't mean they do... this however does not mean that the OS can or cannot access the memory address.. but a 32 bit OS cant reach a memory address of higher than 32 because there is no room in 32 bit to write an address code that is larger..
[19:50] <mib_bzm4b7> Pici: oh
[19:50] <kilo7> what did i miss out?
[19:50] <karsten> Appi: Then install it.
[19:50] <PriceChild> kilo7: check that your non-root account has write access to it.
[19:50] <Appi> mib_bzm4b7:  please help me how should i paste images or screen shots in paste bin
[19:50] <kilo7> how can i check it?
[19:50] <Frijolie> PriceChild: samba shares? network shared folders on another ubuntu machine?
[19:51] <mib_bzm4b7> appi: i forget
[19:51] <ltghesp> does ubuntu 8.10 supports encrypted home dirs on installation?? (whole home dir)
[19:51] <genii> Appi: Use for pictures something else like tinypic or so
[19:51] <mib_bzm4b7> appi: try googleing picture sites like flicr.com or something
[19:51] <PriceChild> Frijolie: ssh shares, nfs, etc.
[19:51] <PriceChild> ltghesp: yes, use the alternate cd
[19:51] <wassim57> sal pute
[19:51] <mib_bzm4b7> appi: then paste the url
[19:52] <djhash> Dominic: or at least thats how I belive it..  but again there is virtual addressing.. so maybe there is no limit..
[19:52] <Appi> okay
[19:52] <Frijolie> PriceChild: does NFS come preinstalled in base Ubuntu? That is what I'd like to see
[19:52] <daedra> anyone here use a "New Mail" notifier? If so, what
[19:52] <PriceChild> Frijolie: i believe you can connect to it yes.
[19:52] <PriceChild> daedra: evolution does it by default for me
[19:52] <Frijolie> PriceChild: er use intsead of SSH to share files across a local network
[19:52] <Appi> karsten: what to install? Please..
[19:52] <vurv> blubuntu? anyone?
[19:52]  * mib_bzm4b7 quit (Connection timed out)
[19:53] <Dominik> djhash: its exactly that virtual adressing that allows it to go above the limit, which is fine for most things unless you actually depend only 64 gigs of sweet ECC ram
[19:53] <maco> vurv: what about it?
[19:53] <Dominik> djhash: if you are running your OS and you simply don't like to quit apps then it is fine to asign virtual addressing
[19:53]  * mib_bzm4b7 joined #ubuntu
[19:53] <Dyresen> To who ever is admin here, kropcik sends me this old dcc mirc exploit.
[19:53] <PastorBones> ok, great....now my comp won't boot into X and sound still doesn't work
[19:53] <Frijolie> Places > Network says "Windows Network" although I have no windows machines in my network?!
[19:53] <vurv> maco: trying to install it conflicts with human-theme/ubuntu-artwork/ubuntu-desktop
[19:53] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading!
[19:53] <Pici> mib_bzm4b7: Why are you doing that?
[19:54] <vurv> not an ideal solution
[19:54] <mib_bzm4b7> Dyresen: what?
[19:54] <Pici> mib_bzm4b7: If you're bored, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , no need to fake joins and parts here.
[19:54] <paul___> Is there any pre-installed application with which i can manage my hard drive ?
[19:54] <vurv> specificially, gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks is causing the conflict
[19:55] <kilo7> PriceChild: would sudo chown arnan /var/www help?
[19:55] <jxander> is there a plugin or something to make firefox youtube sound while watching a mplayer movie for example?
[19:55] <PriceChild> kilo7: no don't do that...
[19:55] <uman> how can i overwrite a read only file in a certain folder? thanks. i think i need sudo to open it but wasnt able to rewrite it after i modified it since it was read only
[19:55] <PriceChild> kilo7: just add the user you want to the necessary group. (/var/www isn't root owned afaik)
[19:55] <mib_bzm4b7> je;;p
[19:55] <msandin> Question: How do I create a standard keyring? Is one needed for VPN access?
[19:55] <karsten> Appi: wget & imagemagick
[19:55] <Falstaf> There doesn't seem to be a program for making a simple video slide show, does anyone have any suggestions.
[19:56] <mib_bzm4b7> oops
[19:56] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading!
[19:56] <djhash> Dominik: just got to this page.. this could answer your question.. if linux has any limitations or not.. looks like each process (in a 32 bit system) are limited to 4gigs.. but that doesn't mean only 4 gigs of memory is being used (if you happen to have 64 for example)
[19:56] <Dominik> Question: Is Linux Remote Desktop compatible with Windows remote desktop?
[19:56] <serhat> musik
[19:56] <mib_bzm4b7> appi: imageshak.co.uk or something
[19:56] <djhash> Dominik: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450
[19:56] <uman> how can i overwrite a read only file in a certain folder? thanks. i think i need sudo to open it but wasnt able to rewrite it after i modified it since it was read only
[19:56] <ecclesiastes> Dominik: no. Linux is a vnc server
[19:56] <Appi> karsten: did
[19:56] <Appi> karsten: done
[19:57] <kilo7> PriceChild: do i do that through visudo?
[19:57] <vurv> no one? =\
[19:57] <Dominik> djhash: yes I belive that is how it works, but that already is virtuall adresseing where each process (it might even be each thread) gets 4 gigs, can linux do this?
[19:57] <PriceChild> kilo7: no
[19:57] <karsten> Appi: Note that <url> == whatever the Google image url was I pasted earlier.
[19:57] <uman> Can anyone help me? how can i overwrite a read only file in a certain folder? thanks. i think i need sudo to open it but wasnt able to rewrite it after i modified it since it was read only
[19:57] <mib_bzm4b7> i still need help with my inode_get issues
[19:57] <Appi> ok
[19:57] <Dominik> djhash: so I can vnc from windows into linux, and vica versa right?
[19:57] <karsten> uman: sudo cp newfile oldfile
[19:58] <djhash> Dominik: that article is based on linux kernels..
[19:58] <ecclesiastes> Domink: yep. platform independant
[19:58] <karsten> uman: assumes you have a newfile you want to copy over oldfile.
[19:58] <karsten> Dominik: Yes WRT vnc
[19:58] <uman> yeah
[19:58] <ltghesp> PriceChild: how to do that? I did not see the option to encrypt my whole homedir. where is that and how is it called?
[19:58] <evan__> i need help installing madwifi please
[19:58] <uman> karsten will try it thanks
[19:58] <vurv> gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks conflict with ubuntu-artwork? anyone?
[19:58] <djhash> Dominik: VNC yes you can.. although I dont understand what the memory limitation has to do with this topic?
[19:58] <PriceChild> ltghesp: When setting up with the alternate cd, under manual configuratino of partitions you can make partitions encrypted
[19:58] <Hideme> any idea why my windows no longer have a close/minimize/expand tabs after enabling compbiz?
[19:59] <evan__> can anyone help me with installing madwifi?
[19:59] <solara> how can i get the package "makedumpfile" ?
[19:59] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: explane
[19:59] <karsten> Dominik: max mem per core:  not within reason.  I've seen as much as 256GB on 8-core boxes.
[19:59] <medfly> solara, is that make dumpfile?
[19:59] <Pici> solara: sudo apt-get install makedumpfile
[19:59] <solara> pci: it says can't find package
[19:59] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  You know... the little X - _   functions on any window that is open?
[19:59] <solara> *pici
[19:59] <Pici> solara: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:59] <Dominik> djhash: oh nothing, it just poped into my mind, I see the future of computing lying in a  massinve server per household, give it another 5 or 10 years and itll cost you an appel and an egg to get a 16 core server with 32 gigs of ram, and then you have a handheld or a superlight ultra long lasting battery laptop to vnc, remote into the server and use its enourmous power
[19:59] <ltghesp> PriceChild: any howto on that? I set one as encrtpted but could not set mount point or anything
[20:00] <Appi> karsten: wget: missing URL
[20:00] <Appi> Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]... imagemagick: command not found
[20:00] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading!
[20:00] <medfly> solara, are you sure thats not just make?
[20:00] <Mahalo> Yip
[20:00] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: try going to ccsm and enableing window decorations
[20:00] <solara> medfly: following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[20:00] <Pici> solara: I only see it in Intrepid currently.
[20:00] <Dominik> karsten: really I can't find boards supporting more then 64 :(
[20:00] <karsten> solara: aptitude search makedumpfile. or search at packages.ubuntu.org.  Or install apt-file or auto-apt and search for the filename.
[20:00] <PriceChild> ltghesp: I'm not aware of one sorry no. It was really easy for me.
[20:00] <solara> Pici: i'm using 8.04
[20:00] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: or sudo apt-get install emerald
[20:00] <evan__> i need help on how to install madwifi
[20:00] <Dominik> karsten: I don't think my heart could bare such a sight without bursting
[20:00] <karsten> Dominik: Servers.  10k node farm.
[20:00] <bimberi> evan__: It's available in Intrepid.
[20:00] <Mahalo> karsten. aint no dang way for Anel to work in Wine
[20:00] <djhash> Dominik: that is a given.. google, microsoft, and all vm software companies are working towards it
[20:00] <ecclesiastes> Dominik: I've been watching multiprocessor OS's for 30 years and they have never been worth a crap. VNC over gigabyte intranet is my bet
[20:01] <Dominik> karsten, ahh but farms are yet a bit different, although sexy
[20:01] <evan__> where?
[20:01] <kilrae> is there any way to get a margin around the edges of my screen for window placement?
[20:01] <Appi> karsten: please see this link http://pastebin.com/m6cae42a9
[20:01] <kilo7> PriceChild: sorry pc, i'm not very knowledged in linux.. would you be able to guide me out of this?
[20:01] <Mahalo> Make a virtual machine
[20:01] <medfly> solara, oh, weird.
[20:01] <Mahalo> I kid you not...
[20:01] <bimberi> evan__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/makedumpfile
[20:01] <karsten> Appi: cd /tmp; wget http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif; display logo.gif
[20:01] <Appi> ok
[20:01] <Mahalo> I've been talkinwith Brother Green about this for months...
[20:01] <vurv> gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks conflict with ubuntu-artwork? anyone? :(
[20:01] <medfly> solara, that page shows an alternative method.
[20:02] <Mahalo> Just make a VM
[20:02] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  any idea which tab decorations are under?
[20:02] <Dominik> ecclesiastes: the idea is that if you have n cores then you can have as much as n-1 people loging in and getting a dedicated core
[20:02] <maco> vurv: can you file a bug on that on launchpad.net and in the tags part put "packaging"?
[20:02] <ecclesiastes> Dominik: I have heard that the PCI bus limits gigabyte ethernet ...
[20:02] <karsten> Appi: <URL> isn't a literal.  Substitute it with the ACTUAL VALUE of the URL you want to fetch.
[20:02] <Mahalo> It isn't the RIGHT answer, but is THE answer
[20:02] <PriceChild> kilo7: ls -l /var/www to find out who the group owning it is.
[20:02] <Dominik> ecclesiastes: I agree with gigabyte intranet but you need a server that can take it
[20:02] <Appi> ok
[20:02] <maco> vurv: specifically, http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug ?
[20:03] <karsten> Appi: If I say "cat <file>", then you substitute the name of some file.  Eg:  /etc/passwd.
[20:03] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  also... my terminal windows don't draw correctly either, just a white box can't see text.
[20:03] <blip-> hi all,  i can't find the openoffice quickstarter system tray thing in the repos... is it in a seprate repo or should i compile it manually ?  thanks
[20:03] <vurv> maco: k, sec
[20:03] <Dominik> ecclesiastes: those are petty concerns of interface, if they want a faster interface they can make it, look at the pci express slots used by graphic cards
[20:03] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: try going into Advanced Search and type the specific plugin
[20:03] <Appi> ok
[20:03] <solara> medfly: device-tree-compiler doesn't exist either ^_^
[20:03] <Dominik> ecclesiastes: but at this point in time you are correct
[20:03] <Pici> solara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile?action=diff&rev1=69&rev2=61  Take a look at the deleted instructions, this may help you.
[20:04] <paul___> j
[20:04] <andyeb_> postfix has suddenly stopped delivering emails to gmail addresses, claiming an SMTP protocol violation. I haven't changed anything and it suddenly started happening a few hours ago - help!
[20:04]  * The-Compiler can compile everything, solara ;)
[20:04] <ecclesiastes> Dominik: there is a app window version of VNC: metaVNC and a propritary one too. 1 app to 1 processor, central FS and one user terminal
[20:04] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  ok, got it.   command says emerald already.
[20:04] <kilo7> PriceChild: oh it says -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[20:05] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: good, now type emerald into the command prompt
[20:05] <paul___> drh
[20:05] <PriceChild> kilo7: oh, ignore me then, I must have been thinking about an earlier version sorry.
[20:05] <solara> pici: everything requirs either makedumpfile or device-tree-compiler
[20:05] <solara> so i'm not exactly sure what version this is for :E
[20:05] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading!
[20:05] <vurv> maco: ah
[20:05] <vurv> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntulooks/+bug/285417
[20:05] <kilo7> PriceChild: oh ok, thanks anyways ;p
[20:05] <Appi> karsten:  please see this  display is not a command http://pastebin.com/m43435784
[20:05] <medfly> ... is huge packetloss and trouble surfing something to be expected from a wireless connection?
[20:06] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:   yeah, it's already in there....  now what?
[20:06] <Dominik> medfly: no!
[20:06] <medfly> ecclesiastes, which device driver would that be
[20:06] <ecclesiastes> pata_artop
[20:06] <karsten> ecclesiastes: blacklist the driver.
[20:06] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: i said open the emerald manager
[20:06] <solara> all I *really* want is just a way to get ext4 to work :(
[20:06] <karsten> Appi: Install imagemagick package.
[20:07] <Appi> ok
[20:07] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  I can't though... term windows are blank right now.
[20:07] <ecclesiastes> medfly: I have written install pata-artop /bin/true into the black list and it still shows up
[20:07] <karsten> Appi: I've onlhy told you that three times now.
[20:07] <mib_bzm4b7> in the GUI?
[20:07] <karsten> ecclesiastes: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/avoid-linux-kernel-module-driver-autoloading.html
[20:07] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  yes.
[20:07] <medfly> Dominik, well then, my connection works, its just shit. what could i be doing wrong?
[20:07] <genii> solara: ext4 was put back in unstable
[20:07] <Sergiu> hi
[20:07] <Pici> solara: Revision 61 of that page looks like it should be for Non-intrepid systems: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile?action=recall&rev=61
[20:07] <Appi> karsten: sorry i am really new to this ubuntu
[20:07] <karsten> Appi: Then pay close attention.
[20:08] <Dominik> medfly: how good is your connection, what router are you useing, how many people are on...
[20:08] <Pici> solara: I'm bringing up the issue with the kernel team, I don't know enough about kernel compiling to fix it properly.
[20:08] <karsten> Appi: and ask if you're not clear on what I've asked of you.
[20:08] <voltronw> using 2 monitors, since upgrading to ibex some characters appear as a square. anyone hit this?
[20:08] <mib_bzm4b7> System -> Prefs -> emerald theme manager or something like that...
[20:08] <NicEXE> I am trying to install flash on ubuntu but this message came up "ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[20:08] <NicEXE>        Adobe Flash Player installer."
[20:08] <karsten> Appi: Is the browser images problem on *all* sites or only some?
[20:08] <Trashlord> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu withya  personal set up of stand-alone OpenBox, how do I change the current typing language through a terminal command?
[20:08] <NicEXE> what can I do?
[20:08] <karsten> Appi: If you go to http://www.google.com/ do you see Google's logo?
[20:08] <medfly> Dominik, the connection is decent twhen its wired.
[20:09] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  ok... got it open.
[20:09] <ecclesiastes> Karsten, medfly: those methods of blacklisting have failed already.
[20:09] <don> Since upgrading to 8.10 I have been unable to print to my Minolta 2430DL.  Can print to my PDF fine.  Both worked great under 8.05.
[20:09] <Dominik> medfly: what is the signal strength when wireless?
[20:09] <mib_bzm4b7> now select the theme of your choice and tell me what happens
[20:09] <karsten> Trashlord: "typing language", keyboard mapping, locale, or what?
[20:09] <medfly> NicEXE, if you're using firefox just ask the plugin installer to fetch it for you
[20:09] <medfly> Dominik, Link Quality=90/100  Signal level=-58 dBm
[20:09] <PastorBones> should I just reinstall or can somebody help me fix my sound?
[20:10] <ebcl> need help with syntax in /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default
[20:10] <karsten> ecclesiastes: What's loading the module?  What module?  is it a modprobe, udev, or what?
[20:10] <Appi> karsten: some site not all sites
[20:10] <VirusKongen> hello i have some problems when i watch dvds on my ATI X1650 PRO card
[20:10] <VirusKongen> it is flashing
[20:10] <ebcl> paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68033/
[20:10] <karsten> Appi: What specific sites?
[20:10] <NicEXE> what should I do in order to be able to run 32 bit apps?
[20:10] <VirusKongen> and in X11 opout ists lagging
[20:10] <Appi> www.ocwen.com
[20:10] <karsten> Appi: And specificaly does Google work or not?
[20:10] <Appi> karsten:  one min
[20:11] <adel1985> buona sera a tutti
[20:11] <ecclesiastes> karsten: I don't know. I'd assume udev.
[20:11] <Pici> !it | adel1985
[20:11] <VirusKongen> plz heeelp
[20:11] <Trashlord> karsten: I wish to change the typing language to hebrew, at certain times, I have used apt to installed language-pack-he
[20:11] <versus> I tried to use aircrack does someone know what this means: http://pastebin.com/m208a50c6
[20:11] <adel1985> ok
[20:11] <maco> vurv: warning, this could break your human theme or the blubuntu theme (but you could always uninstall and reinstall one of them): download the blubuntu-theme deb, sudo dpkg -i --force-conflicts blubuntu*deb
[20:11] <karsten> Appi: What specif url?  I see a blue top bar, a logo, an image of a man and woman in a clockwise blue circle, and three selections on the right.
[20:11] <kilo7> which ftp do you recommend?
[20:11] <Dominik> medfly: dunno then, seems fine, tell your router to only use the mode compatible with your wifi card, not a mixed mode
[20:11] <VirusKongen> Filezilla
[20:11] <johnfg> Well, desktop 8.10 installed fine, and is running fine.  Just have alot to install.
[20:11] <mib_bzm4b7> Filezilla
[20:11] <kilo7> for server
[20:11] <ricardooliveira> I'm using ibex into a dell notebook with an Amd Sempron 3500+ processor. the point is that my processor is a 1.8Ghz but in the my system is showing it as a 800Mhz. anyone if is that a problem and, if so, how can I fix this???
[20:11] <NicEXE> what should I do in order to be able to run 32 bit apps?
[20:12] <mib_bzm4b7> Filezilla server, i think
[20:12] <medfly> Dominik, alright, i'll try that.
[20:12] <Dominik> NicEXE: run a 32 bit OS
[20:12] <kilo7> its in the ubuntu?
[20:12] <johnfg> A question: how much swap do you recommend with 1 gb ram and pretty much unlimited hard drive.
[20:12] <ebcl> kilo7, ncftp
[20:12] <karsten> Trashlord: I think you may want to google that.  There's keyboard mapping, there's locale.  I haven't messed with that much.
[20:12] <andyeb_> anyone on my postfix/gmail problem?  this is getting quite worrying
[20:12] <NicEXE> Dominik: but I am at a 64 bit OS
[20:12] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  Tried my theme and the untitled theme, no change.
[20:12] <Dominik> NiceEXE: im just kidding, I don't know how it works  but you should be able to tell it to execute a file as 32 bit
[20:13] <Trashlord> karsten: thanks
[20:13] <msandin> Having VPN trouble. How do I made a "standard keyring"? What am I supposed to put for the NT-domain? How often may one repeat a question if it lost? :-)
[20:13] <mbahxj> 有没有讲中文的朋友
[20:13] <Appi> karsten:  click this and the one below the blue screen i am not able to view https://ocwen.recruitmax.com/eng/careerportal/default.cfm?szCareerPortalID=2
[20:13] <vurv> maco: well, the question is: is there a reason gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks is *replacing* ubuntu-artwork?
[20:13] <vurv> or is it just being pushy
[20:13] <karsten> mbahxj: English
[20:13] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: ok try sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[20:13] <NicEXE> Dominik: I am not
[20:13] <maco> vurv: i dont know a reason for that.
[20:13] <mbahxj> all right
[20:13] <ecclesiastes> karsten: how can I safely remove the driver from the system?
[20:14] <Iesos> Will people in this chan also answer on kubuntu qs?
[20:14] <mbahxj> but my en is so poor
[20:14] <maco> vurv: let me ask the last person to touch the package
[20:14] <vurv> maco: okay, thanks
[20:14] <karsten> Appi: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/ocwen.png
[20:14] <vurv> 'cause this is kind of ridiculous
[20:14] <erUSUL> !cn | mbahxj
[20:14] <vurv> i think ubuntulooks is just being pushy
[20:14] <vurv> heh
[20:15] <MnemonicPunk> Iesos: Yes, most of the time they try. But maybe #kubuntu is better for that. ^^
[20:15] <karsten> Appi: Please provide the URL, not relative click navigation which is *very* imprecise.
[20:15] <karsten> ecclesiastes: sec.
[20:15] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  not available.
[20:15] <VirusKongen> is 1520FPS great in glxgears with my ATI Radeon X1650 PRO AGP 512MB?? :)
[20:15] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: ok, sudo apt-get install alien
[20:16] <r3z> Anyone created a guide to create a bootable ubuntu 8.10 usb stick?
[20:16] <Iesos> MnemonicPunk: well, they wont answer me...
[20:16] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: ok, then goto rpmfind.net
[20:16] <r3z> I am assuming I can use the fedora live cd creator to do it ;)
[20:16] <evan__> can someone help me to get madwifi installed?
[20:16] <karsten> ecclesiastes: There's some config options for udev as well.  I don't play with that too much.  What's the driver and when is it being loaded?  /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log should record events.  Please pastebin, probably latter.
[20:16] <karsten> Appi: ??
[20:16] <VirusKongen> r3z: it is an option in intrepid
[20:16] <Iesos> How can I get kdm not to produce 1.5GB large log-files everytime I use it (/var/log/kdm.log)?
[20:16] <VirusKongen> it is easy
[20:16] <Appi> karsten:  one sec
[20:16] <medfly> VirusKongen, no
[20:16] <blip-> hi, why isn't the openoffice quickstarter in the 8.04 repos ?
[20:16] <RUMMY> !compiz-fusion
[20:16] <RUMMY> !compiz
[20:16] <Iesos> Anyone? Turn off logging in the kdm?!
[20:17] <maco> vurv: the changelog says it's because of the gtkrc, but i dont quite understand it, so i'm emailing sebastian
[20:17] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  Shall I assume 8.10 doesn't have emerald yet?
[20:17] <evan__> can anyone help me on installing madwifi?
[20:17] <Grey_Loki> !nvidia
[20:17] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: i dont have 8.10
[20:17] <r3z> VirusKongen, I will be doing it from a windows machine. Does it give that option?
[20:17] <Dmole> anyone know how to umount smbfs "This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems."?
[20:17] <soho> i have problems with the guest-session. it does not start anymore after the upgrade from today. can somebody confirm this?
[20:18] <karsten> Dmole: sudo umount <partition>
[20:18] <Appi> karsten:  now I am able to view all the images in google which was not happening before
[20:18] <ricardooliveira> hi, anyone knows sth about CPUs info that are being showed wrong in ubuntu?
[20:18] <karsten> blip-: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10226 http://www.google.com/search?q=openoffice+quickstart+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 or maybe ooqs-kde
[20:18] <Dmole> karsten: that is when I get the "This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems" error
[20:18] <Iesos> Anyone? Turn off logging in the kdm?!
[20:18] <rt> my NetworkManager is eating up 65% of cup and 90% of mem.... wtf ? ? upgraded to 8.10 a few days ago
[20:19] <karsten> Dmole: grep <mountpoint> /proc/mounts & paste 1 line response
[20:19] <vurv> maco: thanks
[20:19] <mbahxj> haven't small chat room for china?
[20:19] <karsten> Iesos: ??
[20:19] <doggymenz> I installed Ubuntu using Wubi on a computer with 256 mb RAM. The swap is too small. How do I increase the size of the swap?
[20:19] <karsten> !cn | mbahxj
[20:19] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  Can't I use compbiz without emerald and have the window decoration (x - _)?
[20:19] <mib_bzm4b7> lesos: see what commands pop up when kdm --help
[20:19] <mbahxj> ok
[20:19] <Dmole> karsten: nothing
[20:20] <Appi> karsten:  its taking time to load the complete url
[20:20] <karsten> doggymenz: You can manually configure swap during install, or add swapfiles manually and add these to /etc/fstab
[20:20] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: try installing helidor
[20:20] <Iesos> karsten, kdm creats logs of 1.5GB each time the computer starts. I need to turn it off!
[20:20] <don> Cannot print to my Minolta 2430 since upgrading to 8.10!!!  HELP!!
[20:20] <gavagai> I want to install Ubuntu as a second operating system with windows.  Does it matter if i put my ubuntu partition at the beginning or end of the hard drive?
[20:20] <karsten> Dmole: It's not mounted then.
[20:20] <blip-> karsten: oh i found ye it's oooqs-kde,  i was searching for quickstart before.   thanks
[20:20] <mbahxj> i have got it ,thanks a lot for u!
[20:20] <wolfjb> how do I get rhythmbox to play audio cds ? It used to work before the 'upgrade' to intrepid
[20:20] <karsten> Iesos: Nifty
[20:20] <sebsebseb> gavagai: probably not as such
[20:20] <doggymenz> karsten, its already installed.. so i can add a new swap file manually.. but is there anyway to increase the size of the current swap?
[20:20] <Dmole> karsten: thanks that's an odd error
[20:20] <PriceChild> gavagai: doesn't matter. (although I think you'll find one of them much harder than the other ;) )Don't forget your backups either.
[20:20] <karsten> Iesos: Where?
[20:20] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  helidor no such package under 8.10
[20:21] <gavagai> so operating systems don't run faster on the 'outside' of the disk or anything
[20:21] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: try just using compiz for now
[20:21] <karsten> Dmole: Check /proc/mounts to see if you didn't miss it w/ a misspecified grep.
[20:21] <Dmole> karsten: I did that thanks
[20:21] <mib_bzm4b7> lol condiment
[20:21] <sebsebseb> gavagai: dual boot with Windows why exactly?  maybe your Windows usage is basic enough that you don't needWindows dual booted, because a virtual machine of Windows inside Ubuntu  should work pretty well,  except for 3D stuff, and as long as your computer is not really old
[20:21] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  ok... but how do I shut off emerald or whatever is making the tabs disappear?
[20:22] <evan__> can anyone help me with installing madwifi?
[20:22] <ebcl> anyone have a moment to debug syntax in  /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default ?
[20:22] <soho> i have problems with the guest-session. it does not start anymore after the upgrade from today. can somebody confirm this?
[20:22] <Appi> karsten:below the blue screen i see broken page  https://ocwen.recruitmax.com/eng/careerportal/default.cfm?szCareerPortalID=2
[20:22] <pen> anyone know the name of the drop down terminal?
[20:22] <karsten> Dmole: cat /proc/mounts and visually scan for mountpoint.  That list is definitive as it's the *kernel* state.  /etc/mtab may not reflect reality.  If you see it in once place but not the ohter you've got problems.
[20:22] <pen> there is visor in mac
[20:22] <sebsebseb> gavagai: also for running Windows stuff in Linux, there is Wine etc
[20:22] <pen> how about linux?
[20:22] <Iesos> karsten, the log files? /var/log/kdm.log
[20:22] <ljuwaidah> evan__: What's that?
[20:22] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: System -> Quit -> Log out
[20:22] <karsten> Appi: Missing image just below the blue-bar logo at the top of the page?
[20:23] <gavagai> sebsebseb, well this is a laptop and i'm going to leave windows on it until everything has shown itself to work in linux
[20:23] <mbahxj> nobody chating in ubuntu-cn room,so i come back
[20:23] <karsten> Appi: That appears to be a site error -- they're pointing to an image which doesn't exist.
[20:23] <FrozenIRSSI> I'm trying to setup my server on ssl and i'm getting the error "Can't connect securely because the site uses an older, insecure version of the ssl protocol"
[20:23] <Dmole> karsten: seems my other server is down because I am getting this back from ping "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[20:23] <sebsebseb> gavagi: ok sure I guess,  when you  do this though, I highly recommend you do a seperate home partition, that way if you ever need to re install Ubuntu,  you won't need to move data around and what not
[20:23] <sebsebseb> gavagi: home being where your data etc will be saved, if you didn't know already
[20:23] <karsten> Dmole: Um, that means you've got network problems.
[20:24] <Dmole> karsten: looks like
[20:24] <gavagai> thanks
[20:24] <Appi> karsten: please tell me the command to install  imagemagick package.
[20:24] <evan__> can anyone help me with mad wifi
[20:24] <thedark_> I can't record sound, mic or what comes out of the speakers
[20:24] <thedark_> I have everything turned up in the mixer
[20:24] <Dmole> I can ssh to the server(#1) though
[20:24] <sebsebseb> gavagi:  and I assume it's XP?  and  Ubuntu can save onto your Windows partition
[20:24] <Dmole> karsten: I can ssh to the server(#1) though
[20:24] <karsten> Appi: Specifically, that image is http://www.ocwensolutions.com/new/external/images/PageTitle_Career.jpg which is on a server (www.ocwensolutions.com) which doesn't respond to pings or port80 requests.  The image server is down.
[20:25] <thedark_> okay I tink I have it figured out
[20:25] <ljuwaidah> i don't understand why installing flash player requires installing nspluginwrapper :P
[20:25] <pvh_sa_> join #grid
[20:25] <karsten> Appi: sudo aptitude install imagemagick
[20:25] <Appi> karsten: ok
[20:25] <karsten> Dmole: Hrm.
[20:25] <karsten> Appi: *YOU* don't have a problem, the remote server does.
[20:25] <thedark_> in kmixer, both capture channels volume symbols are red and have a pause button on them
[20:25] <Appi> karsten:  okay
[20:25] <mib_bzm4b7> Appi: sigh
[20:26] <karsten> mib_bzm4b7: Go figure.
[20:26] <erisco> Sound Recorder does not record my USB headset's mic. when I get record it rapidly increases in "recorded time", so that about 5 seconds in it says it has recorded 4 minutes
[20:26] <thedark_> how do I "activate" the capture channel?
[20:26] <erisco> any ideas? this did not happen to me in 8.04
[20:26] <VirusKongen> i like cake
[20:26] <Appi> mib_bzm4b7: what is that
[20:26] <ljuwaidah> erisco: well, mine doesn't even record from the laptop's built-in mic :P
[20:26] <mib_bzm4b7> !ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <mib_bzm4b7> !offtopic
[20:27] <Appi> karsten: you are really genius,
[20:28] <Appi> karsten: thank you, friend
[20:28] <erisco> Sound Recorder does not record my USB headset's mic. when I get record it rapidly increases in "recorded time", so that about 5 seconds in it says it has recorded 4 minutes. any ideas? this did not happen to me in 8.04
[20:28] <PorkChop> hi
[20:28] <karsten> Appi: No, just methodical
[20:28] <Dmole> karsten: thanks for the help I'm off to reboot server # 2
[20:28] <sudo> hi
[20:28] <karsten> Dmole: G'luck
[20:28] <versus> I tried to use aircrack does someone know what this means: http://pastebin.com/m208a50c6
[20:28] <don> Anyone have any idea about getting printing working again?
[20:28] <mib_bzm4b7> people seem to forget about offtopic issues
[20:28] <ecclesiastes> karsten: back when I have the pastebin ready.
[20:28] <Appi> karsten:
[20:29] <karsten> Appi: If you have a problem that affects _some_ but not _all_ remote sites, is visible from multiple different systems of yours or other peoples
[20:29] <evan__> i need help on installing madwifi
[20:29] <karsten> Appi: ... then the problem most likely is on the remote site, not your system.
[20:29] <Hideme> mib_bzm4b7:  still no tab... but thanks for your help
[20:29] <karsten> !madwifi > evan__
[20:30] <mib_bzm4b7> Hideme: look in logs or something
[20:30] <crescendo_> I wonder if this wifi gateway has a personal problem with my wifi chipset because it doesn't seem to want to assign it an ip.
[20:30] <jim_p> !svn
[20:30] <j0N45> how do I install ubuntu-server via netinstall?
[20:30] <dobblego> how do I change documents from opening in KWord to open with OpenOffice?
[20:30] <DJones> Can anybody suggest a solution to this in openoffice, menus etc are just coming up as dashes, suggestions welcome, example screenshot is http://imagebin.org/30474
[20:30] <jim_p> !cvs
[20:30] <Appi> karsten: yeah true its working fine, thanks a lot
[20:30] <evan_> everyone!! please... evan_ || evan__....
[20:31] <yao_ziyuan> does ubuntu 8.10 enable selinux by default?
[20:31] <javajeff> hi, I need help installing openoffice.  I get an error.
[20:31] <ricardooliveira> my processor is a Sempron 3500+ with 1.8GHz but is being showed as 800MHz in my system. Anyone knows what is happening please?
[20:31] <mib_bzm4b7> whats with FloodBot2
[20:31] <axod> hi... I can't install postfix-tls it says it's a virtual package :/ how do I fix that?
[20:31] <evan__> ok
[20:31] <lianimator> dobblego: right-click, properties
[20:32] <lianimator> dobblego: openwith tab.
[20:32] <karsten> Appi: You should also head to http://tldp.org/guides.html and read a few of the guides there.
[20:32] <dobblego> lianimator, yes, but I want it to open like that every time
[20:32] <ljuwaidah> brb
[20:32] <YlandeFaran> To be able to ssh, and use scp to my system. What do I have to setup?
[20:32] <jim_p> can anyone give me info on svn?
[20:32] <karsten> ricardooliveira: Shown where?
[20:32] <rt> my NetworkManager is eating up 65% of cup and 90% of mem.... ? upgraded to 8.10 a few days ago
[20:32] <Appi> karsten: okay i am going through it
[20:34] <karsten> ricardooliveira: What's /proc/cpuinfo say?  How about dmidecode or dmidecode -s processor-frequency
[20:34] <jscinoz> Hi
[20:34] <karsten> ricardooliveira: Don't pm me.
[20:34] <Appi> karsten: thank you very much, please suggest me which link is best to learn about command used in terminal
[20:34] <jscinoz> does there exist a nested xserver that has opengl acceleration?
[20:34] <jscinoz> Xgl was nice, but now its gone :(
[20:35] <Jeremy93283> Hi
[20:35] <ricardooliveira> karsten: sorry
[20:35] <karsten> Appi:
[20:35] <karsten> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html
[20:35] <karsten> ricardooliveira: pastebin output.  dmidecode may need to be installed, must be run as root.
[20:35] <Jeremy93283> I have a video I want to upload to Break.com. It's 200MB and the limit for videos at Break.com is 60MB. Is there a program for Ubuntu that can reduce the MB size of my video to 60MB?
[20:35] <jim_p> rt: demove network manager piece of junk and install wicd. ask me if you need any help
[20:35] <jim_p> *remove
[20:35] <ltghesp> how can I remove an encrypted partition in the partition manager of the installer. I keep getting a red screen saying it's not possible
[20:35] <karsten> Jeremy93283: You should probably split it in your video editor.
[20:36] <rt> jim: nah i should be ok, can i do this over ssh :) i dont want to hookup a mouse and keyboard ::))
[20:36] <Jeremy93283> karsten - Which video editor?
[20:36] <Jeremy93283> Kino?
[20:36] <rt> is wicd in the repositorioes ?
[20:36] <jim_p> rt: do what? install wicd?
[20:36] <karsten> Jeremy93283: The one you used to create the vid
[20:36] <pen> anyone
[20:36] <jim_p> rt: no :( wicd has its own repo
[20:36] <Jeremy93283> No I just got it off my camera
[20:36] <pen> know visor? the drop-down terminal?
[20:36] <rt> bleh
[20:36] <ricardooliveira> karsten: well in the cpuinfo file says cpu MHz 800.000 and cache size 512 kb
[20:36] <cognitiaclaeves> I just installed intrepid, in my latest effort to get the sound chip Intel ICH??? working since it had been working in Gutsy.. with no joy.  Anyone else have an Intel dg965wh series MB?
[20:36] <pen> is there such similar apps in ubuntu?
[20:36] <rt> ok
[20:37] <jim_p> pen: tilda and yuakuake?
[20:37] <apollo13> hi guys, I am looking at a system of a friend know, who installed windows after he installed intrepid and I wanted to reinstall grub, chrooting to the sys fails, as usr,bin/proc,dev are missing, how can that happen?
[20:37] <karsten> ricardooliveira: try kino, maybe.
[20:37] <Jeremy93283> It ended up being a little over 200MB. Break.com wants it to be 60MB. So How do I decompress it to 60MB from 200MB on my Ubuntu?
[20:37] <Tux2K8> im connected to an ftp from the terminal using ftp command , how do I upload a file?
[20:37] <ricardooliveira> karsten: as root apt-get is this?
[20:37] <pen> jim_p, ok, I know them, buggy, I want something like visor a addon for terminal
[20:37] <Joelito> hi all two issues...is it normal that ubuntu file dialogs start in a small window?
[20:37] <karsten> ricardooliveira: video is already a compressed coded.  You can try stuff like 'split' but I think it will break the file format.  So:  fire up an editor and edit, split, or recode the video.
[20:38] <karsten> ricardooliveira: rephrase that please.
[20:38] <karsten> ricardooliveira: sudo aptitude install kino
[20:38] <karsten> ricardooliveira: NM.
[20:38] <karsten> Jeremy93283: kino, maybe.
[20:38] <funkja> I need a lightweight program that will let me read from a USB port. Anyone know of one?
[20:38] <ricardooliveira> kasten: ok karsten I'm gonna trie. thanks for all. I'm a kind of newbie yet.
[20:39] <karsten> ricardooliveira: NP
[20:39] <ricardooliveira> karsten: see ya.
[20:39] <karsten> ricardooliveira: ciao
[20:39] <sec> hi people
[20:39] <doggymenz> hi
[20:40] <lianimator> dobblego: you set the default Open With program there. in properties of that file, and Open With tab. assuming you're using nautilus.
[20:40] <sec> somebody knows how to fix wifi, bluetooth, hotkeys and suspend mode in ubuntu 8.10 for a asus 1000h eeepc ?
[20:41] <apollo13> sec: try the array.org kernel
[20:41] <Dark_Cortex> hello girls
[20:42] <mib_bzm4b7> ** I NEED HELP WITH get_inode issues **
[20:42] <neal_> hi, i'm having a weird bug with my dual monitor setup, the bottom 5cm of one of my monitors is black, the only thing displayed is the mouse
[20:42] <Frijolie> i can't believe how frustrating and difficult file sharing is! I cannot get this to work!
[20:43] <Frijolie> I've tried every which way and it still is not working.
[20:43] <karsten> neal_: Your display virtual size is set too small.
[20:43] <karsten> neal_: You can play with xrandr to see and change settings.  man xrandr.
[20:43] <karsten> neal_: There's probably a GUI way to do it as well through your desktop (system settings, display, ...)
[20:43] <neal_> thanks will do,
[20:43] <Dark_Cortex> OMG, MY CORTEX IS GETTING DARKER!!!!
[20:43] <neal_> console is fine
[20:43] <Dark_Cortex> :OOOOOOOOOOO
[20:43] <FloodBot2> Dark_Cortex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <karsten> Frijolie: What's your goal?
[20:45] <sec> apollo13: I use the kernel from array.org but I should use the acpi scripts sources?
[20:45] <kilo7> can i just ask a very noob question; why is it not good to use root account
[20:45] <apollo13> sec: dunno, waiting for my eee to arrive
[20:45] <Frijolie> karsten: I'm trying to cut/paste files between two Ubuntu computers on a local network
[20:45] <karsten> Frijolie: both running ubuntu?
[20:45] <Skrux> hi
[20:45] <Frijolie> karsten: i've tried NFS, SSH, SMB
[20:45] <Frijolie> karsten: yes, both Intrepid
[20:46] <karsten> Frijolie: and cut/paste or cp / scp, etc.?
[20:46] <torstein> Hello, can anybody help me with a wifi interface problem?
[20:46] <PriceChild> kilo7: firstly because it is unnecessary and can make it much easier to lose data or break things. Some applications also aren't designed for it.
[20:46] <Skrux> when I revoke a key, I automatically revoke the keys I have signed ?
[20:46] <Frijolie> karsten: cut/paste
[20:46] <karsten> Frijolie: Please pastebin an scp -v <options> <files> <remote> attempt and output.
[20:46] <tilgovi> what replaces gnome-keyring-manager in intrepid?
[20:46] <PriceChild> Skrux: no, but your signings are rendered worthless.
[20:46] <karsten> Frijolie: Um. "cut/paste" how?
[20:46] <DJones> Can anybody suggest a solution to this in openoffice, menus etc are just coming up as dashes, suggestions welcome, example screenshot is http://imagebin.org/30474
[20:46] <Frijolie> karsten: I can browse folders but Im getting "permission denied"
[20:46] <karsten> Skrux: What PriceChild said.
[20:47] <karsten> Frijolie: On read or write?
[20:47] <Skrux> ok
[20:47] <Frijolie> karsten: i've changed ownership, groups
[20:47] <Frijolie> karsten: write
[20:47] <Kl4m> Frijolie: for smb, "smbpasswd"
[20:47] <karsten> Frijolie: Same or different users on local/remote systems?
[20:47] <d00kiejones> hello
[20:47] <karsten> Frijolie: ... and what application / what protocol are you using to browse?
[20:47] <Frijolie> karsten: local machine user writing to another user on remote machine
[20:47] <karsten> Frijolie: I'd *strongly* recommend using CLI tools at least to get the issue sorted out.
[20:48] <Frijolie> karsten: i'm open to CLI
[20:48] <Kl4m> Frijolie: tell us what protocol
[20:48] <karsten> Frijolie: scp -va <localfile> <user@remotehost>:<remotefile>
[20:48] <Frijolie> kl4m: whatever you're willing to help with I have all those protocols, i've listed above, installed
[20:49] <karsten> Frijolie: eg:  scp -va foo frijolie@otherbox:bar
[20:49] <Lynet> After upgrade from hardy to intrepid, some of the special keys on my laptop act a bit weird (for example, the key to increase lcd backlight also prints a "±" character). Anyone else seen this?
[20:49] <karsten> Frijolie: You can simplify to scp -va foo remotehost:. if user and filename are same
[20:49] <karsten> Frijolie: try that.  If it fails, pastebin the command *and* output.
[20:49] <Skrux> then
[20:49] <Skrux> how do I revoke my key ?
[20:50] <karsten> Frijolie: If that works, there are some tools which make copying/syncing large numbers of files a lot easier.  scp can mirror directories, rsync is *really* good at dealing with large data volumes / large numbers of files, esp. on repeated updates where not much changes.  lftp and mc both provide interactive console interfaces to file xfer.
[20:50] <sec> somebody use the kernel from array.org for a eeepc?
[20:51] <PyChild> Apache2 doesn't parse php(5) in personal website purged reinstalled restarted and still no cake.
[20:51] <karsten> Skrux: man gpg
[20:51] <Frijolie> sorry, remotehost alias or ip address?
[20:51] <d00kiejones> anyone good with hibernate issues or understand the way it works pretty well thats willing to help?
[20:51] <Aireas> Does anyone know what to do when Ubuntu's installation process freezes at [End of Trace]?
[20:51] <PyChild> Please i could use a little help
[20:51] <karsten> Skrux: gpg --gen-revoke, then edit key to implement.  Then publish the revoked key.
[20:51] <Frijolie> karsten: sorry, <remotehost> meaning alias or IP address?
[20:51] <karsten> PyChild: /join #apache
[20:51] <karsten> Frijolie: either.
[20:52] <Skrux> karsten: ok
[20:52] <d00kiejones> anyone?
[20:52] <PyChild> karsten: k...
[20:53] <Kl4m> !ask
[20:53] <crescendo_> =]
[20:53] <karsten> Skrux: That process is dependent on other people updating your key.  You can't rely on that, which means you probably want to contact anyone who'se been using your key to send/receive encrypted/signed messages.
[20:53] <Kl4m> Don't ask for "does anyone know about xyz". Just ask the question.
[20:53] <karsten> d00kiejones: Post what you're trying to do, what works/doesn't, and any relevant error/debug info.  Pastebin anything > 1 line
[20:53] <CaBlGuY> !xmms-flac
[20:53] <mochabcha> how do you setup an ad-hoc network between ubuntu hardy and windows xp
[20:54] <CaBlGuY> ok, I need flac codec for XMMS, anyone help me out?
[20:54] <mib_bzm4b7> ** I NEED HELP WITH get_inode issues **
[20:54] <mib_bzm4b7> ** I NEED HELP WITH get_inode issues **
[20:54] <mib_bzm4b7> ** I NEED HELP WITH get_inode issues **
[20:54] <mib_bzm4b7> ** I NEED HELP WITH get_inode issues **
[20:54] <FloodBot2> mib_bzm4b7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <KableKiB> can you run steam under wine?
[20:54] <karsten> mochabcha: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=samba+configure+ad+hoc+network+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[20:54] <Frijolie> karsten: <remotefile> = /destination/path/on/remote?
[20:54] <karsten> Frijolie: Yes
[20:54] <crescendo_> why is a bot removing +b
[20:54] <evan_> i need some help on getting an atheros wireless driver working
[20:55] <LjL> crescendo_: it's not, and anyway that's if anything a question for #ubuntu-ops not here :)
[20:55] <Frijolie> can remote save location be another user's folder?
[20:55] <CaBlGuY> !flac
[20:55] <Kl4m> CaBlGuY: xmms is not supported anymore...
[20:55] <d00kiejones> i installed to a usb hard drive (not key) with my internal drive disconnected. i can hibernate fine but not resume. i think grub is looking for my swap on sda not sdb anyone have any ideas? i have a feeling its just a simple config issue as i had to change my uuid's to boot.
[20:55] <LjL> !xmms | CaBlGuY
[20:55] <karsten> !atheros > evan_
[20:55] <LjL> !info xmms2-plugin-flac | CaBlGuY
[20:55] <CaBlGuY> wow!   so, it's true!?!  :-O
[20:56] <Kl4m> CaBlGuY: use audacious and install the audacious-plugins and audacious-plugins-extra
[20:56] <CaBlGuY> dang.. that sux!
[20:56] <karsten> Frijolie: It can be, but you need write permissions for that user, or a login to that user's account.
[20:56] <ty> any1 hav time for an apache2 vhost question
[20:56] <ty> ?
[20:56] <karsten> Frijolie: Generally you'd copy to someplace _you_ can access, provide other user access to that location, and tell 'em to get the file there.
[20:56] <timecist> hi, why does ubuntu compile the kernel with gcc 4.2.3 if it ships with gcc 4.2.4?
[20:56] <buckie> Hi guys if I want to play multiplayer java games in mozilla firefox what java plugin should I install then GJC, The Java(TM)6, The Java(TM)5 or GJC (using OpenJDK)
[20:57] <karsten> Frijolie: If you're doing complex filesharing you may want a revision controll system (eg:  git, svn, Hg, arch)
[20:57] <ty> i need help with vhosting in apache2 ubunu 8.10
[20:57] <Kl4m> CaBlGuY: don't go looking for xmms elsewhere. Really, use audacious.
[20:57] <karsten> timecist: Keeps you on your toes.
[20:57] <Frijolie> karsten: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68047/
[20:57] <karsten> ty: /join #apache
[20:57] <ty> ok
[20:57] <CaBlGuY> Kl4m,  don't like anything else cept xmms..   small, neat, and not a system hog like all the other ones..
[20:58] <karsten> Frijolie: scp -v.  No -a.  I was getting scp & rsync options confuzzed.
[20:58] <karsten> Frijolie: man scp
[20:58] <timecist> that is really stupid
[20:58] <kilo7> is it possible to extract a tar.gz file(that has /folder/contents/) to a / dir?
[20:58] <Kl4m> CaBlGuY: audacious is xmms, only a fork of a fork
[20:59] <Aireas> I have tried to install Ubuntu on my new laptop but it keeps freezing on the exact same spot of the splash screen. Does anyone know what I can do?
[20:59] <orkaan> hello. is there any software you know for torrent download? but an automatic one? i need a torrent agent that will automatically scan torrents and download me a selection based on keywords file preferences etc.
[20:59] <Frijolie> karsten: well, it's transferring....wonder if the destination user will be able to read/execute it
[20:59] <ebcl> orkaan, rtorrent
[21:00] <karsten> kilo7: man tar.  There are several options to change output location.  -C
[21:00] <CaBlGuY> instrallin xmms2 now...
[21:00] <lifestream> Hi... anyone know how I can remove all "no longer available" songs from banshee automatically? I don't want to go trough 60+ songs and select each one and delete each one :(
[21:00] <mintsoup> This not the vim channel, but anyone know how to tell vim to automatically turn on syntax highlighting based on file extension?
[21:00] <Frijolie> karsten: thanks so far, you've got me one more step on the right direction. What about bulk files? rsync?
[21:00] <Kl4m> CaBlGuY: oh, I thought xmms was not available anymore, anyway they're really the same
[21:01] <karsten> Frijolie: chmod g+r.  chgrp <groupid> file.  Make sure you and other user are part of same group.  If it's safe to, make file world-readable.
[21:01] <ghrocks> hey there everybody, how you doing??
[21:01] <karsten> evan_: Don't PM me
[21:01] <ty> !botsnack
[21:01] <ty> lol
[21:01] <evan_> ok
[21:02] <karsten> Frijolie: bulk:  scp -r (recurse through dirs), rsync.
[21:02] <CaBlGuY> Kl4m,  no worries...  thanks though,.,.
[21:02] <ghrocks> hey guys, im having a problem, i dunno if anyone could help me =)
[21:02] <karsten> Frijolie: If it's a one-time deal, scp is fine.  rsync is *much* more efficient at syncronizing large filetrees.  Learn it, it's very, very, very worthwhile.
[21:02] <eddVRS> ghrocks: what is it then?
[21:03] <BikgerGeek> ghrocks: Just ask your question.  If anyone knows the answer, they'll chime in.
[21:03] <ghrocks> thnx
[21:03] <evan_> i finally got it working thanks everyone
[21:03] <Frijolie> karsten: i have experimented with rsync before as a means for backup to an external HDD and wound up deleting 1GB of pictures
[21:03] <jbroome_> Frijolie: the -n parameter is your friend
[21:04] <gigel2007> hello
[21:04] <karsten> Frijolie: http://sial.org/howto/rsync/#s5
[21:04] <gigel2007> I have a question
[21:04] <karsten> Frijolie: ... a decent start.  Lots of other examples online.
[21:04] <ebcl> anyone have a moment to debug my evidently flawed syntax in  /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default ?
[21:04] <Frijolie> so ever since then, i'm hesitant to use it until I can master it's capabilites
[21:04] <gigel2007> if I install like : sudo apt-get install program
[21:04] <halycon> hey everyone I just downloaded the ISO of Intrepid Ibex and am wondering how to upgrade my existing Wubi install using the ISO
[21:04] <karsten> Frijolie: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2008/10/28/essentials-2008 (fixed link)
[21:04] <ghrocks> i have problems with firefox, whenever i open it keeps like loading, but it doesn't freeze, i dont have any bookmark and it appears like if it has loaded completely but i don't see anything, like the blank page as homepage on ie, but i have assisgned a homepage
[21:04] <gigel2007> where does ubuntu put my program
[21:04] <karsten> !ask gigel2007
[21:04] <karsten> !ask > gigel2007
[21:05] <BikgerGeek> ghrocks:  Does it display the firefox window, or only show the "Starting Firefox" button?
[21:06] <Aireas> does anyone know what [   92.670413] ---[ end trace cbe85998192731bd ]--- means? The Ubuntu installation keeps freezing at this point.
[21:06] <karsten> Frijolie: There are some pretty standard recipies (rsync -avz <localdir> <remotehost>:<remotedir>) which give you a lot of mileage.
[21:06] <karsten> Aireas: That's a kernel logging entry
[21:06] <gigel2007> if I install like : sudo apt-get install program , where does ubuntu install the program? like in windows you install sometihng you choose the location and you can view the folder, why do I have limited choices in linux?
[21:06] <karsten> Aireas: What precedes it?
[21:07] <BikgerGeek> Aireas:  Mine did that.  Turns out the CD didn't burn correctly.  Have use the verify cd menu option from the live cd menu.
[21:07] <ghrocks> it displays firefox completely
[21:07] <karsten> gigel2007: it installs the program where the package files go.  'dpkg -L <package>' to list all files in a package.
[21:07] <denis__> hi
[21:07] <lifestream> Does anyone know of a easy way to remove songs that do no longer exist, from my Banshee library?  There's sooo many old songs on my Library!
[21:07] <BikgerGeek> ghrocks:  Sorry, but just to make sure, can your system access the internet?
[21:07] <denis__> someone can tell me what is the command to format my hdd please ?
[21:07] <Aireas> Karsten: ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
[21:07] <karsten> gigel2006: Packages install files at various locations which are standardized for the entire system.  usually /usr/bin, /usr/share, /usr/lib, and other bits.
[21:08] <lifestream> denis__,  does it have to be from the terminal? if not, you can use gparted. or type parted from command line
[21:08] <gavagai> Does anyone have experience installing on a dell laptop with media direct?  Can I just use my media direct partition as linux swap, or will something weird happen if i delete that partition?
[21:08] <JulioNeto> #ubuntu-classroom
[21:08] <karsten> Aireas: How about you pastebin a dozen lines or so.  is the system still up?
[21:08] <memeemeee> I'm having serious networking problems. I put the new PCI card in the computer but linux doesn't see it
[21:08] <eddVRS> gigel: in CLI: which <program-name>
[21:08] <lifestream> denis__, you've got to run those as root
[21:08] <denis__> I think it is enough
[21:08] <denis__> thanks lifestream
[21:08] <Aireas> karsten: it's on my laptop but I am typing to you from my desktop :(
[21:08] <lifestream> np
[21:09] <karsten> JulioNeto: Wozzat?
 Thanks, so in linux linux handles it ? so that for example you can use a direct command in a terminal, it does that automatically ?
[21:09] <ghrocks> yes, it can, yesterday i had a problem with authentication software or secure sites, it solved itself after some time, but right now, it's only firefox, i can acces through opera, or any software but i can't with fireox
[21:09] <shameless> does anyone have any experience with cabextract?
[21:09] <JulioNeto> karsten, OpenWeek Channel
[21:09] <xiamx> hey guys, I have a problem with compiling gnome-sharp, I installed all develepement parkage but,  it just don't want to build gnome-sharp.dll
[21:09] <denis__> how can I run it ?
[21:09] <Aireas> karsten: I'll start typing it up as I see it
[21:09] <karsten> Aireas: <alt><F#> will toggle between virtual terminals.  There's different stuff logged in different places.  If you can see any of these, process steps should be described.
[21:09] <denis__> because Im under KDE
[21:09] <karsten> JulioNeto: I sorta noticed that.  What's  OpenWeek?
[21:10] <denis__> and I don't know...
[21:10] <JulioNeto> karsten, join and see :)
[21:10] <karsten> Aireas: If you've got a camera and can upload screenshots, that might be faster.
[21:10] <BikgerGeek> ghrocks:  I'm not too familiar with Firefox's security exceptions, but if you were having problems previously with secure sites, you might want to check a Firefox support forum to see if anyone else is experiencing anything similar.
[21:10] <karsten> JulioNeto: Not enough bandwidth.
[21:10] <karsten> JulioNeto: Pitch me.
 Thanks, so in linux linux handles it ? so that for example you can use a direct command in a terminal, it does that automatically ?
[21:11] <ghrocks> thnx, bikger geek, i just want to make sure if it may be a problem with the os or a script on it
[21:11] <karsten> gigel2006: Sorry, context?
[21:11] <Aireas> karsten: I don't have a camera anymore. I tried hitting Alt+F4 but nothing happened. It seems to have locked up. I'll start typing it if that is okay.
[21:11] <ltghesp> Is it possible to resize encrypted partitions in a lvm? and is it possible to grow the whole lvm partition ??
 it was about knowing where the program is installed like in windows, so in linux linux handles it ? so that for example you can use a direct command in a terminal, it does that automatically ?
[21:12] <karsten> Aireas: alt-sysrq-?
[21:12] <karsten> Aireas: sysrq == PrtSc key on most PC keyboards.
[21:12] <ghrocks> ok guys, thnx a lot, see ya
[21:12] <shameless> i'm trying to get ChemCad to work under hardy, i've got all the pre-requisite components installed, but the installer gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/m282a95b7
 okay, I hit alt+sysrq
[21:12] <Bruk0ut> anyone here had problems auth'ing to a BNC with XChat? i keep getting bad user/pass from server but its correct. I have googled but cant fix :/. in windows (mirc) its fine, and i connect no probs
[21:13] <karsten> gigel2006: Linux defines a standard filesystem layout (FHS) and set of facilities present (LSB).  The package manager (APT for Ubuntu) puts pieces of software  & systems packages where they belong within this hierarchy, manage relationships between packages, configure them, track files, and handle uninstall.
[21:13] <patmaddox> I want to install ubuntu on one of the last-gen MBPs... it's an intel core 2 duo, but not the latest one.  I looked at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt and the available archs are i386 and amd64.  Which one should I pick?  I thought I can use 64 bit but it looks like that's just amd?
[21:13] <brandon_> Anyone have any suggestions for getting a USB headset to work?
 so therefore it's all automatic ?
[21:14] <karsten> gigel2006: See also Debian Policy (which Ubuntu adopts as well) which defines more stuff about the package management.
[21:14] <arrrghhh> so i swapped my mobo, and now i have no network devices.  i thought linux didn't care what hardware i had installed.
[21:14] <karsten> gigel2006: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB
[21:14] <Sajuta> patmaddox: It's essentially 32 bit or 62 bit, and what your processor can handle.
[21:14] <Sajuta> I mean 64*
 I hit the alt+sysrq but I don't think I can paste it anywhere. The system seems locked up so I would have to reboot it
[21:14] <gigel2006> is it all automatic then ?
[21:14] <karsten> arrrghhh: udev tracks NICs by MAC and will renumber devices.
[21:15] <genii> arrrghhh: If you had eth0 now will be eth1   old eth1 wil be eth2 now. And so on
[21:15] <arrrghhh> genii, all i have is lo.  no eth devices
[21:15] <arrrghhh> karsten, que?

[21:15] <Aireas> sorry miss type
[21:15] <CaBlGuY> well,  I had to install Audacious....  xmms2 is command line and I'm not that uber yet..  :-p    Audacious don't seem that recource intrusive to me but, I got 64 processor and 2 gig of ram..  ;)
[21:15] <karsten> arrrghhh: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-rules
[21:16] <genii> arrrghhh: udev keeps a list of adapters it finds by mac address and will keep incrementing the ethX number even if the old ones no longer exisy
[21:16] <Koordin> hi, someone is saying me that i may have a conflict in several qt installations ; how can i clean them up with apt-get ?
[21:16] <onexused> For some reason, the software sources program seems to no longer be on my computer.  gksudo software-sources-gtk does nothing but ask for a password, and locate software-sources-gtk gives no results.  How do I reinstall it?
[21:16] <arrrghhh> hrm... how can i get it back to eth0 then?
[21:16] <genii> karsten: Thanks, was just looking for that :)
[21:16] <karsten> arrrghhh: /sbin/ifconfig -a should list all known network devices.  If you see say, eth2, eth3, eth4, rather than starting w/ eth0, you've had devices renumbered.  Or you have a diffeent problem.
[21:16] <gigel2006> Does anyone know how can you use injectin with ath9k, google doesn't know anything about that
[21:16] <karsten> arrrghhh: One sec.
[21:16] <karsten> gigel2006: NP
[21:16] <genii> arrrghhh: Edit the file karsten indicated
[21:16] <patmaddox> Sajuta: so I can download the amd64 iso even though my machine has a 64-bit intel proc?
[21:16] <PastorBones> anybody willing to help me get my sound working now?
[21:17] <Sajuta> patmaddox: Sure can.
[21:17] <patmaddox> Sajuta: cool, thanks
[21:17] <arrrghhh> genii, ok, i'm gonna swap monitors and see if this works.  i'm too lazy to drag my old crt up here lol
[21:17] <karsten> arrrghhh: I think you can just manually edit the file and renumber the high-numbered interfaces to 0, 1, etc.  Or delete the file and it's regenerated at boot when the udev scripts are run.
[21:17] <karsten> patmaddox: yes.
[21:18] <jarco> hello. Anyone an idea why alias nano ='sudo nano' is not working?
[21:18] <karsten> patmaddox: Intel uses the AMD64 instruction set.  IA64 == Itanium which is pretty much deaddeaddead.
[21:18] <karsten> Koordin: what packages are conflicting?
[21:18] <eddVRS> jarco: you have a space after =, try removing that
[21:18] <karsten> Koordin: ... and are they Ubuntu or third-party packages?
[21:18] <jarco> ok eddVRS
[21:18] <eddVRS> jarco: sorry, I meant before the =
[21:19] <shameless> i'm trying to get ChemCad to work under hardy, i've got all the pre-requisite components installed, but the installer gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/m282a95b7
[21:19] <Koordin> karsten: i'm on kubuntu ; i think that's qt4
[21:19] <arrrghhh> karsten, genii, i think you both hit the nail on the head.  there was an entry for eth0 w/my old via crap and a new entry for eth1.  i'm rebooting now.
[21:19] <gigel2006> Does anyone know how can you use injectin with ath9k, I have an atheros AR9281 and the ath9k are already instaled but NO INJECTION
[21:19] <karsten> arrrghhh: Ok.  I think that reboot helps sort things out faster though it shouldn't be strictly necessary.
[21:20] <jarco> ok eddVRS
[21:20] <arrrghhh> karsten, yea i just decided to blast out the file and reboot.  didn't feel like editing it, and the old entry didn't need to be there.
[21:20] <arrrghhh> hooray the server is pinging!
[21:20] <karsten> arrrghhh: renaming is usually better than deleting.
[21:20] <PastorBones> what is the alternative to alsa?
[21:20] <vurv> maco: any response?
[21:21] <jarco> works now eddVRS  thx
[21:21] <memeemeee> I'm having serious networking problems. I put the new PCI card in the computer but linux doesn't see it
[21:21] <arrrghhh> karsten, true, i probably should've renamed the file.  but it's workin and i'm happy.  now to learn how to partition my 1tb hdd at the command prompt!
[21:21] <suleyman> hey folks. I know you can run stuff with "nohup {executable}" so it stays running after logging off. But is there a way to apply nohup an already running process. y backup is taking too long and I want to go home :-)
[21:22] <suleyman> Maybe I can ctrl-z and then bg (background) the brogram
[21:22] <eddVRS> jarco: gd news!
[21:22] <karsten> arrrghhh: mv file file.bak or mv file file.$( date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S )
[21:22] <dmhardison> I am getting an error and the machine does not complete its shutdown it is about NetworkManager nm_dbus_signal_device_status_change: assertion ..... bus_connection` failed. Can someone please help me out.
[21:22] <karsten> arrrghhh: echo $( date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S ) to see what that does.
[21:22] <kenny__> can someone here help me get gmake  ? I am trying to install vmgl and it needs gmake.
[21:22] <djeday> how make wget go through isa proxy server with ntml auth ?
[21:22] <arrrghhh> karsten, yes i know how to rename files.  i know that's what i should've done in case i needed to reinstate, but it's no biggie.
[21:23] <karsten> suleyman: First suggestion:    learn to use screen.
[21:23] <Iradieh> Is there a way to give you permission on files and all subfiles and subfolders with chown? I copyed some stuff from another distro
[21:23] <karsten> arrrghhh: it's the date string substitution to create a timestamp for the backup fi.e
[21:23] <karsten> file
[21:23] <arrrghhh> karsten, 20081105-142309 - why?
[21:23] <jimcooncat> screen is awesome in a most awesome way
[21:23] <gigel2006> Does anyone know the atheros support channel ?
[21:23] <suleyman> :)
[21:23] <arrrghhh> Iradieh, the -R switch applies to everything recursively.
[21:23] <suleyman> man screen
[21:24] <karsten> arrrghhh: That's a datestamp in YYYYMMDD-HHMMSS format.  I find it useful for remembering *when* I created a particular backup file.
[21:24] <arrrghhh> karsten, don't sweat it.  server's already rebooted, and i'm sshed into it now.
[21:24] <karsten> arrrghhh: Yeah, just sharing the Wisdom.
[21:24] <onexused> What do I install to get software-sources-gtk back?  It seems to be gone.
 	[  92.670413]  [<ffffffff8020a041>] ? do_one_initcall+0x41/0x170
[21:24] <Aireas> 		[  92.670413]  [<ffffffff8026c261>] ? __blocking_notifier_call_chain+0x21/0x90
[21:24] <Aireas> 		[  92.670413]  [<ffffffff8027d085>] ? sys_init_module+0xb5/0x1f0
[21:24] <Aireas> 		[  92.670413]  [<ffffffff8021285a>] ? system_call_filepath+0x16/0x1b
[21:24] <Aireas> 		[  92.670413]
[21:24] <Aireas> 		[  92.670413] ---[ end trace cbe85998192731bd ]---
[21:24] <onexused> !nopaste | Aireas
[21:25] <Walkbo> How can I get Amarok to give its song information to Pidgin in Gnome? It works for Exaile, so I figure it may be a package I'm missing that lets Amarok "talk" to other programs.
[21:25] <karsten> suleyman: I don't think you can nohup a running process.  As I said, screen is really the solution you want.
[21:25] <Aireas> same here, sorry
[21:25] <erUSUL> !bugs | Aireas Report it as akernel bug
[21:25] <arrrghhh> karsten, ha, thanks.  i've been very careful about backing up configs to the "cloud" - just in case.
[21:25] <FloodBot1> Aireas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <djeday> smb advise me how to update machine through isa proxy with ntml auth
[21:25] <karsten> Walkbo: There's a plugin for that somewhere.
[21:25] <karsten> Walkbo: Might ask on #kde
[21:25] <suleyman> karsten thx
[21:26] <Toznoshio> Hi community, is there a picture viewer for Linux that can properly display animated GIFs? I tried with both the built-in "Eye of Gnome" and with gpicview, but they both only show the first frame and stop there. The only way I can display animated GIFs right now is with Firefox. Any ideas?
[21:26] <Iradieh> arrrghhh: chown -r doesnt work
[21:26] <arrrghhh> Iradieh, -R
[21:26] <Iradieh> arrrghhh: chown -R doesn't worjk
[21:26] <karsten> suleyman: ... or I could be wrong:  http://www.usenet-forums.com/linux-general/89848-nohup-running-process.html
[21:26] <djeday> chown /path -R
[21:26] <djeday> =)
[21:26] <arrrghhh> Iradieh, it does, you're command is wrong then.
[21:26] <karsten> suleyman: Hrm.  Maybe "disown":  http://www.goldfisch.at/knowledge/347
[21:26] <Sajuta> Walkbo: There are actually a few plugins. apt-cache search for amarok should return some that work with it.
[21:27] <karsten> suleyman: That's a bash builtin.  'help disown'
[21:27] <Iradieh> arrrghhh: okay sorry, I have to have user there
[21:27] <djeday> anybody know how to pass ntml auth in wget ?
[21:27] <Frijolie> karsten: thanks again, I'll investigate rsync. You're like the Linux guru you're helping like 15 people at a time. I'm envious
[21:27] <karsten> Frijolie: Well, it doesn't pay the bills ;-)
[21:27] <anyo> how would i give a user r/w rights to /var/log/gnump3d/access.log
[21:27] <karsten> Frijolie: ... but it keeps me off the streets.
[21:28] <jagiil> hi (ubuntu 8.04) i uninstalled by mistake some of nvidia files or sthg now hardware driver dt detect nvidia anymore and i'm working on low resolution plz help
[21:28] <Walkbo> Sajuta: I have the music tracker plugin for pidgin that pulls Exaile's status but not Amarok's. I also have the Amarok Pidgin script.
[21:28] <Dyresen> Compiz makes my terminal almost unusable. Disabeling loose bindings helps as a work around, but then it's actually better running metacity because of performance. Does anybody know if there is a fix for this comming?
[21:28] <suleyman> karsten: thx again, clearly you are better googler than I am :-)
[21:28] <Frijolie> karsten: you're not a linux system admin or something? how long you been using?
[21:28] <karsten> suleyman: It's a good question, one I usually assume the answer to is "no".
[21:28] <karsten> Frijolie: 20+ Unix, 10+ Linux, mostly Debian
[21:29] <Walkbo> I figure it's an issue with Amarok "talking" to other apps as it is out of its normal environment?
[21:29] <gangsterlicious> SunOS admlim1 5.9 Generic_117171-07 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100
[21:29] <gangsterlicious> ooops, wrong window
[21:29] <Sajuta> Walkbo: If you go in to configure the plugin (should be Tools> Plugins) select MusicTracker and click Configure, is it set to auto-detect? Amarok? Exaile?
[21:30] <jamiejackson> i just upgraded to intrepid the other day, and it didn't retain my NetworkManager vpnc (cisco vpn) settings. the vpnc configuration dialog has changed a bit, and i'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot my current failure to connect. http://pastebin.com/d5700f3dd
[21:30] <Lasivian> Hi, i'm trying to figure out which version of freeciv to install, sdl, gtk+ or Xaw3D, google seems to have lots of technical specs on this stuff, but no useful lamens data
[21:30] <BULLE_> what type of config stuff goes into /etc/defaults and what goes into the specific dirs or files in etc for each service ?
[21:30] <onexused> How do I get back the program software-sources-gtk?  It won't start from the terminal or menu and locate software-sources-gtk shows nothing.
[21:30] <BULLE_> seems i cant find any description of what type of files are suppopsed to go into /etc/Defaults, is it options for the init scripts ?
[21:30] <hsn> hey guys, i cant import my firefox search plugins from windows -> ubuntu. it says permission denied. can someone help me out?
[21:30] <Walkbo> Sajuta: Yeah, I've got it set for Amarok.
[21:31] <Frijolie> karsten: whoa! Well I've been Linux exclusive now for 2 years and I've never looked back. I'm still a noob. Any advice?
[21:31] <karsten> Lasivian: None of the above if you value your sanity.  gtk+ in general (it's GNOME-ish)
[21:31] <karsten> Frijolie: Keep on keepin' on.
[21:31] <LjL> onexused: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop   will reinstall anything you might have lost from the original ubuntu package set
[21:31] <benno2> hi, any idea how I can enable cupsd listening on lpr port 515 on ubuntu (8.04) so that I can print to that machine from another machine using the lpr -H hostname cmd ?
[21:31] <onexused> LjL: Thanks.
[21:31] <Frijolie> karsten: marry the CLI?
[21:31] <rabe> install tar.gz.......... sry - i still do not know exactly how to install tar.gz packages - could anyone tell me?
[21:31] <karsten> Frijolie: Given my experience, it beats marrying the green-card scammer....
[21:31] <BULLE_> rabe: jsut dont
[21:31] <Lasivian> karsten: well, those are the three client options
[21:32] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Have you restarted each of the programs? Sometimes that helps them pair. Hmm... I'm using that plugin with Audacious myself.
[21:32] <rabe> ?
[21:32] <BULLE_> rabe: use debs instead
[21:32] <Frijolie> karsten: hehe...whoa TMI.
[21:32] <rabe> no i have to compile it i think
[21:32] <onexused> LjL: When I give that command, it asks to remove 68 packages, some of which I definately want.  What do I do about that?
[21:32] <LjL> rabe: a .tar.gz file is merely a compressed archive, much like a .zip file. how you "install" it depends on what's in it. but still, you usually install software on Ubuntu using APT, not random files downloaded from the net. what are you trying to install?
[21:32] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Also, are you sure it's not working? Add yourself to your own buddy list to check. It doesn't -look- like it's changing to you, only on the outbound level.
[21:33] <robacarp> does anyone happen to know if there is a way to add/remove shares from a samba server without restarting the daemon?
[21:33] <karsten> Frijolie: ... yeah, love the CLI.  I got a ton of mileage from "Linux in a Nutshell", "UNIX Power Tools", and "Running Linux".  The Linux Documentation Project (http://www.tldp.org/) rocks.  install dwww and as many docs packages (Ubuntu has tons) as you can and browse in your spare time.  Learn shell, a database, Perl/Python, and basic services admin (mail, web, dns, samba).
[21:33] <LjL> onexused: that is weird. are you on intrepid? are you on GNOME, KDE or something else? are you using any third-party repositories?
[21:33] <BULLE_> rabe: then you will not get any automatic updates, and you might very well get collisions with other ubuntu software and other wierd problems
[21:33] <Frijolie> karsten: green-card scammer? is that a  peripheral?
[21:33] <karsten> Frijolie: /lastlog it and save to a file
[21:33] <rabe> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tvbrowser/tvbrowser-2.7.1.tar.gz
[21:33] <karsten> Frijolie: No, it was an attractive danish woman with a few too  many secrets.
[21:33] <BULLE_> rabe: i bet there is a readme file in there
[21:33] <BULLE_> rabe: just realise you can easily fuckup your box that way
[21:33] <karsten> Frijolie: http://allium.zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2008-October/012566.html
[21:33] <rabe> could be - second...
[21:34] <rabe> i know...
[21:34] <rabe> but i know this program
[21:34] <karsten> Frijolie: punchline in the last paragraph, but read the first 3 or so first.
[21:34] <gigel2006> Does anyone know how can you use injectin with ath9k ?
[21:34] <jimcooncat> rabe, you may want to use checkinstall, it will allow you to uninstall afterwards
[21:34] <BULLE_> rabe: doesnt mean that it will work well in ubuntu, and not cause problems
[21:34] <BULLE_> checkinstall is ag reat piece of advice
[21:35] <rabe> its an java application
[21:35] <BULLE_> use taht as jimcooncat said
[21:35] <rabe> how to use?
[21:35] <BULLE_> rabe: if it is a java application, there should be no need to install it
[21:35] <onexused> LjL: I'm using 8.04, whatever that's called.  I'm only using repos that I could check in the software sources program, plus ubuntu alternate install discs I downloaded from ubuntu.com.  I'm using gnome, but I should have KDE installed still.  A lot of the stuff is from KDE, but there are other things like cups and openoffice.org that don't belong to either.
[21:35] <onexused> LjL: in the remove list, I mean.
[21:35] <ltghesp> dammit alternate install installed lilo and now I get a grub error and cant boot
[21:35] <Walkbo> Sajuta: Ok, tried restarting them and adding myself. No dice... Also, I know it was working with Exaile because you can see the status message at the bottom of the Pidgin window. There's just nothing special when using Amarok.
[21:35] <jagiil>  hi (ubuntu 8.04) urgent plz help i uninstalled by mistake some of nvidia files or sthg now hardware driver dt detect nvidia anymore and i'm working on low resolution plz help
[21:35] <XLV> has anyone ever tried an upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, without reformat? i am trying to do so going from 32bit 8.04 to 64bit 8.10.. installer from within 8.04 doesnt start
[21:35] <LjL> onexused: ok, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[21:36] <jimcooncat> rabe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[21:36] <hsn> hey guys, i cant import my firefox search plugins from windows -> ubuntu. it says permission denied. can someone help me out?
[21:36] <karsten> Frijolie: /join ##debian-offtopic if you want the low-down on that.
[21:36] <rabe> ok i'll try...
[21:36] <Pirate_Hunter> !media
[21:36] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Mine doesn't change at the bottom, I only know because I'm on my own list.
[21:36] <BULLE_> XLV: most likely because the 8.10 installer is compiled in a 64 bit enviroment
[21:36] <pickknic> !codecs
[21:36] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Huh. Latest version of the plugin?
[21:36] <karsten> XLV: Not Supported.
[21:37] <karsten> XLV: AFAIK.  You're going to have a lot of incompatibilities there.  I'd strongly suggest a from-scratch reinstall unless you hear otherwise.
[21:37] <hsn> hey guys, i cant import my firefox search plugins from windows -> ubuntu. it says permission denied. can someone help me out?
[21:37] <XLV> karsten, yeah, i suppose so..
[21:37] <karsten> !tell hsn about repeat
[21:38] <XLV> anyhow, off to it ;-)
[21:38] <karsten> hsn: Importing how?  What errors?
[21:38] <Pirate_Hunter> !codecs
[21:38] <hsn> karsten: hey. i just try to copy it to the ff searchplugins folder
[21:38] <karsten> XLV: Google suggests no at Ubuntu forums.
[21:39] <karsten> hsn: copy how?
[21:39] <karsten> hsn: cli?  GUI?  What command?  What error?  Where do you get error messages?
[21:39] <Walkbo> Sajuta: I don't see anything on my name when I added myself. My plugin version is 0.4.1. Could this be an issue with Amarok not being able to "talk" to other apps because it's running in Gnome?
[21:39] <karsten> hsn: check ownership/perms.
[21:39] <hsn> karsten: i made a copy of the searchplugins folder from windows and pasted them on ubuntu desktop. i use the gui to copy paste but it doesn't work. i think the folder is "locked"
[21:39] <d3vil__> hi alls
[21:39] <DefamedPrawn> good moaning
[21:40] <d3vil__> i need help?
[21:40] <hsn> karsten: as i'm really new to ubuntu i dont know how to unlock the folder
[21:40] <Frijolie> karsten: dude, you pwned!
[21:40] <howitzermod> hi
[21:40] <howitzermod> new but ubuntu pwns
[21:40] <karsten> hsn: Drop to cli.  ls -lR <dir> and see if you own it.  Not sure if windows/linux plugins are compatible.  /join #firefox.
[21:40] <karsten> Frijolie: PM?
[21:40] <onexused> LjL: http://rafb.net/p/OXaX3E18.html  I don't know why there would be stuff in there for Intrepid, except I tried to do an upgrade to it a couple times over the Internet.
[21:40] <d3vil__> i need a putty  ...iam using ubuntu 8.10
[21:41] <d3vil__> i can find putty
[21:41] <robacarp> karsten: most FF plugins are java-scripted and are cross platform
[21:41] <pickknic> What's the standard way to do RAIDs in 8.10? So many conflicting articles on the net - LVM? mdadm? dmadm?  (NOTE - I don't want to *install* ubuntu to a RAID. Ubuntu is already installed, I want to RAID up disks other than the one with ubuntu installed on it) (NOTE - "!raid" doesnt provide any helpful info)
[21:41] <Sajuta> Walkbo: I'm running 0.4.8 . Maybe getting the latest will help? I've also noticed that keeping pidgin closed during the process helps it (I had it not work the first time and someone suggested that).
[21:41] <karsten> robacarp: OK.
[21:41] <Frijolie> karsten: sure
[21:41] <karsten> hsn: I suspect ownership/perms issues.   #firefox should help
[21:42] <d3vil__> Frijolie can u helo me i need putty for ubuntu 8.10
[21:42] <onexused> LjL: I commented out the stuff for Interpid and uncommented the other repos, and I don't get it asking to remove all those programs anymore, but I don't know if that's what I was supposed to do.
[21:42] <Walkbo> Sajuta: Alrighty, I'll go fetch 0.4.8 and see how it works. Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes
[21:42] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Glad to at least try to help. =)
[21:43] <katy> any amsn users about  ? hotmail wants me to update FF but it' the same version as I have what gives ?
[21:43] <_pingu> How do i use the menu, places and systray in Avant Window Navigator?
[21:43]  * katy = Pelo
[21:43] <daszorz> how do i get my version of ubuntu at the command line?
[21:43] <d3vil__> Frijolie
[21:43] <adi_> hi all
[21:43] <onexused> LjL: I went ahead and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop like that, and it looked like it succeeded, but gksudo software-sources-gtk still does nothing.
[21:43] <erUSUL> daszorz: lsb_release -a
[21:43] <daszorz> thanks
[21:43] <adi_> is there any music player with equalizer for ubuntu interpid?
[21:43] <funkja> how does Linux handle USB devices? Where are the configuration files kept to keep track of how to set them up? Any information would be a good start.
[21:44] <erUSUL> adi_: audacious, bmpx
[21:44] <l3d> I reinstalled grub after i just added windows but it doesnt ask me what os to boot too how would I fix that?
[21:44] <onexused> adi_: audacious works for me.
[21:44] <LF|Irssi_> VLC  adi_
[21:44] <daszorz> right ok, so now how do i update to 8.10 at the command line?
[21:44] <Frijolie> d3vil_: yo, sorry I'm not that familiar with PUTTY
[21:44] <adi_> who is the lightests?
[21:45] <jamiejackson> trying to download networkmanager in synaptic. i read that i'm supposed to be able to select "force version" but it's not available (grayed out). what's the scoop?
[21:45] <Toznoshio> How do I resolve audio conflicts between two apps who want to own / lock the audio device?
[21:45] <adi_> im looking for some amarok like player
[21:45] <hsn> karsten: i still have the same problem after typing that command :\
[21:45] <Skry^> funkja, google udev
[21:45] <Skry^> adi_, exaile
[21:45] <erUSUL> !upgrade | daszorz
[21:45] <adi_> cause exaile cant belive it but true dont work the equalizer
[21:46] <pickknic> What's the standard way to do RAIDs in 8.10? So many conflicting articles on the net - LVM? mdadm? dmadm?  (NOTE - I don't want to *install* ubuntu to a RAID. Ubuntu is already installed, I want to RAID up disks other than the one with ubuntu installed on it) (NOTE - "!raid" doesnt provide any helpful info)
[21:46] <erUSUL> pickknic: use software raid with mdadm
[21:46] <hubar> Can anyone help with the problem in here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972222
[21:46] <Skry^> adi_, ok, then try songbird, rhytmbox and banshee
[21:46] <l3d> I reinstalled grub after i just added windows but it doesnt ask me what os to boot too how would I fix that?
[21:46] <pickknic> erUSUL: cheers
[21:46] <hellues> hey
[21:47] <sysdoc> xorg ID's my 2 nd LCD monitor as CRT-1, is this correct?
[21:47] <Skry^> adi_, amaroks still the best though
[21:47] <grizzancs> !help > grizzancs
[21:47] <adi_> rhythmbox is just those apps that you get for free on windows
[21:47] <H4nta> my xorg.conf doesnt work after upgrade. " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" only changes my keyboard settings. halp!
[21:48] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
[21:48] <adi_> yes amarok is still the best but I dont wont kde packages on my gnome
[21:48] <jarco> whats the command for changing the gnome menus again?
[21:48] <fonzarelli> adi_: banshee is now as good as amarok, imho
[21:48] <onexused> jarco: alacarte
[21:48] <adi_> the solution is to make an equalizer for totem
[21:48] <jamiejackson> how do i downgrade to the hardy version of networkmanager?
[21:49] <jarco> thx thats it :D
[21:49] <ArShAm> hi all
[21:49] <jarco> onexused, thx
[21:49] <adi_> so anyone can play audio and video equalized in one app
[21:49] <Falstaf> I have video problems ... there are some applications that cause lines on my screen ...
[21:49] <H4nta> why does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" only change my keyboard settings?
[21:49] <Ursinha> hi, i'd like to install mtd-utils on intrepid thru apt but its page on launchpad says it had failed to build for i386
[21:50] <hubar> what service should I restart to force font reload its hinting configuration???
[21:50] <ArShAm> I want to transfer my current installed ubuntu to usb stick (partly, not the whole thing) and I want to make it bootable, how can I do that?
[21:50] <pickknic> H4nta: possibly because as far as that command can tell, that's the only thing wrong with your config.  Try deleting (or better yet, renaming) xorg.conf, then run the sudo line again
[21:50] <Ursinha> what am I supposed to do about it, file a bug?
[21:51] <n8tuser> ArShAm-> what is on your current install that you require transferring to the usb?
[21:51] <ecclesiastes> ArShAm: are you trying to back up or have a bootable USB stick?
[21:51] <jarco> is there an apt-get command to update openoffice to the latest version or at least 3.0 :p
[21:51] <ArShAm> not a back up , I want to travel for a while , and I cannot bring my computer there
[21:51] <hubar> jarco: You need to have a different repository.
[21:52] <ArShAm> but I need it, data, and everything which needs to run a complete distro
[21:52] <hubar> jarco: the default rep doesn't have OO 3.0.
[21:52] <comrademikhail> anyone having problems with the kernel update last night?? my sound is broken since
[21:52] <Doctor_N1ck> :D
[21:52] <ArShAm> ecclesiastes: I mean the bootable
[21:52] <ecclesiastes> ArShAm: you can make a bootable stick but it's only going to work on PCs that will boot from a USB drive.
[21:53] <jarco> hubar,  is there a website or something where i can find the approximate date that it will appear in the normal repos?
[21:53] <neal_> i figured out what was wrong with my monitor configuration apparently 2048x2048 is the largest virtual desktop size supported with 3d acceleration
[21:53] <neal_> DRI support
[21:53] <ArShAm> ecclesiastes: I know what are you talking about , and its ok
[21:53] <H4nta> pickknic: i did as you said and that changes nothing. it only allows me to change only the framebuffer and keyboard settings.
[21:53] <daszorz> i love ubuntu :)
[21:53] <karsten> neal_: I suspected something like that.
[21:53] <jaysonsantos> !midi
[21:53] <neal_> thanks for your help tho
[21:53] <XLV> ArShAm, copy the whole partition, and using vmware, make it a virtual drive of a vm.. then add vmware player in the usb stick, along with the whole virtual drive. on every pc, all you'll have to do is install vmware player, then load the vm and use it
[21:53] <nikolam> comrademikhail, What version of ubuntu you use?
[21:53] <flakeparadigm> Hello
[21:53] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, I am having the same issue on my laptop :\
[21:53] <eddVRS> Hi, I've just ran an update and rebooted, but am geting a blank screen after login- anyideas?
[21:53] <comrademikhail> nikolam: 8.10
[21:54] <onexused> I'm trying to do an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 with a CD I downloaded from ubuntu.com.  The upgrade says it wants to uninstall 81 things, most of which I want.  How can I get it not to?
[21:54] <comrademikhail> joaopinto: what kinda laptop? i have a dell studiothat's doing it
[21:54] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, I have a ThinkPad T60
[21:54] <Havsalt> Hello everybody. I haaaaaaaave a problem... Until yesterday I was running twinview with nvidia (8800gts) but it died, so I had to put in a ATI card. But my extended desktop, which is my lcd-tv won't go higher then my lcd-screens resolution. With nvidia i could run fullhd on the tv, as I was using the lcds default resolution just to work on..anyone here that knows what im talking about?
[21:54] <ArShAm> XLV: I don't have vm and I have a slow connection, can I just copy the root without home, sys, proc ?
[21:54] <hubar> jarco: hold on plz
[21:54] <ecclesiastes> ArShAm: I haven't any experience with a USB stick, BUT you should be able to run the installer with the stick as the target.
[21:54] <gigel2006> How can you view .doc files in ubuntu?
[21:54] <jarco> k hubar
[21:54] <nikolam> joakim, someone is joking with us with those kernel updates. I hat trouble with adsl modem and stability. They are gone after update of and update..
[21:54] <neal_> it's too bad i was kind of liking the 1680x1050 + 1600x1200, that the last version of ubuntu supported
[21:55] <nikolam> sorry joaopinto
[21:55] <eddVRS> gigel2006: i think Open office can handle *.DOCs
[21:55] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, broken as in, no sound
[21:55] <ArShAm> ecclesiastes: in that way, I am not transfering my current stuff
[21:55] <hubar> jarco: try this # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main #OpenOffice
[21:55] <comrademikhail> joaopinto: i mean what kinda laptop
 where can I get it ?
[21:55] <pickknic> H4nta: my xorg.conf says to use a "-phigh" option. I'm not sure what it does, but does running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" work?
[21:55] <ng0n> anyone know where ms-sys is located - to dl and install in Ubuntu ?
[21:55] <joaopinto> nikolam, these days I always pray when I see a kernel upgrade :D
[21:55] <nikolam> comrademikhail, I am still on 8.04 because of that kind of stuff
[21:55] <XLV> ArShAm, use dd to copy the partition to a file.. then get vmware.. just copying root wont do it
[21:55] <comrademikhail> joaopinto: i'm having the issue on a dell studio 15 with an hda-intel card
[21:55] <hubar> jarco: you know what to do with a new repository right?
[21:56] <hubar> what service should I restart to force font reload its hinting configuration???
[21:56] <platius> jarco; http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml  but it could be risky
[21:56] <XLV> !vm
[21:56] <comrademikhail> i just recompiled alsa to no avail
[21:56] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, I believe it's the same chipset
[21:56] <jarco> yes hubar  i know
[21:56] <comrademikhail> it was working last night before i went to bed
[21:56] <eddVRS> gigel2006: should already be installed, have a look under applications>office
[21:56] <nikolam> joaopinto, That `s not what the things should work..
[21:56] <jarco> thx platius
[21:56] <jarco> i gonna read some more about it before i try it
[21:56] <joaopinto> the odd is that I have reinstalled the previous kernel, and I still have no sound
[21:56] <ecclesiastes> ArShAm: No. the stick has to be bootable first ..try XLV's suggestion.
[21:56] <hubar> jarco: nice, then try that rep, I did , I have OO3 on my intrepid now. :)
[21:56] <nikolam> joaopinto, Does that updated things get tested?
[21:56] <flakeparadigm> I have had this problem many times but though not too much about it. I just restart my computer and all is fine. But it is getting annoying. When I'm not on my computer for a while (about maybe 6 hours) it will not runn any commands when I get back on. every command says "bash: (path to command): Input/output error" Anyone know whats going on?
[21:56] <jarco> :)
[21:56] <jarco> kewl
[21:57] <ArShAm> XLV: ok , so , dd to make an iso from root, and what to do with vmware again?
[21:57] <platius> jarco; it is working for me, but I have not used it much.
[21:57] <rabe> what is wrong with my machine???? every time i close my notebook ubuntu hangs up instead of switching into suspend
[21:57] <rabe> any ideas?
[21:57] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
 yes thank you, what about xvid, avi, mp3 can I play that as well ?
[21:57] <nikolam> joaopinto, Thats nothing. on 8.10 by default, floppy disks don`t work,..
[21:57] <jarco> yeah platius  i need the multi page editing functions :p
[21:57] <comrademikhail> i have been struggling with sound for the past week
[21:57] <Molakay> what do i miss "This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[21:57] <Molakay> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
[21:57] <Molakay> " .. tell me what to write in term
[21:57] <XLV> ArShAm, i feel you have too little knowledge and you'll end up screwing your existing ubuntu installation
[21:58] <comrademikhail> finally got it runnign great this week and they break it
[21:58] <comrademikhail> great.
[21:58] <patmaddox> so I'm sure this is probably holy war stuff...but I'm just installing ubuntu for the first time, which window manager do I want to use? :)
[21:58] <Walkbo> Sajuta: Ok, after installing tons of stuff to get the plugin to compile it failed, but.... I happened to right-click the Pidgin icon in the tray and checked toggle status changing in the musictracker menu and voila...
[21:58] <H4nta> pickknic: i did as you said and that only creates a blank xorg.conf
[21:58] <ArShAm> XLV: you bet I am!
[21:58] <ng0n> how do i force 'defrag' in ubuntu ?
[21:58] <rabe> does anyone know why ubuntu hangs up when i close my notebook??
[21:58] <LF|Irssi_> i fixed my sound by uninstalling the PulseAudio server, and enabling just the ALSA or whatever its called (for 8.10 that is)
[21:58] <jarco> ngon it isnt needed
[21:58] <XLV> ArShAm, copy the whole partition, using dd, to a file. using vmware, make that file a virtual drive of a vm.. then add vmware player in the usb stick, along with the whole virtual drive. on every pc, all you'll have to do is install vmware player, then load the vm and use it
[21:58] <rebel_kid> how can i get information such as size in a terminal
[21:58] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Ouch! Painful... Accidental working is nice, sometimes, though. =)
[21:59] <pickknic> H4nta: sorry mate, I can't really help then
[21:59] <ecclesiastes> patmaddox: whichever one the installer gives you .. for now.
[21:59] <rebel_kid> .. on a file*
[21:59] <ng0n> jarco:  I'm showing NTFS drives 'open' that aren't open.
[21:59] <Walkbo> Sajuta: I'm just a little embarrassed, but I'm glad the "issue" was resolved. Sorry to waste your time. Thanks again for your help though!
[21:59] <ArShAm> XLV: thank you
[21:59] <andrews> I am having trouble getting a mic to record on Ubuntu 8.10 I had it working in 7.10 but can't seem to get it to work now, I have a Sound Blaster I don't remember what model
[21:59] <evilspawn4> does anyone know if there is a channel for thunderbird?
[21:59] <ljuwaidah> does anybody have any idea why my "save session" isn't working?
[21:59] <nikolam> ng0n, you mostly don`t need to defra your disks just don fill them up to 95 percent and so..
[21:59] <Sajuta> Walkbo: No problem. Why did you compile, though? I nabbed it from the repos.
[21:59] <XLV> ArShAm, theres even a free vm program, instead of vmware http://www.virtualbox.org/
[21:59] <ng0n> nikolam. understood.
[21:59] <jarco> i dunno a solution ng0n  i just kniow it doesnt need to be defragmented :p i does it by itself every once in a while
[21:59] <XLV> ArShAm, use that
[22:00] <ArShAm> XLV: virtualbox does not have a usb support
[22:00] <ng0n> jarco.  right o.   after 25 mounts.
[22:00] <ng0n> but i can't mount.. to build the count.
[22:00] <nikolam> andrews, use lspci to determine you card model
[22:00] <timecist> virtualbox blows
[22:00] <jarco> something like that
[22:00] <Walkbo> Sajuta: I thought that's where I got mine, so I figured the latest in repos were 0.4.1
[22:00] <ljuwaidah> uh, php, later
[22:00] <aaron__> how can I convert my mp3's to wav
[22:00] <ljuwaidah> *gtg
[22:00] <ng0n> o well.
[22:00] <ng0n> i'm screwed.
[22:00] <Havsalt> Hello everybody. I haaaaaaaave a problem... Until yesterday I was running twinview with nvidia (8800gts) but it died, so I had to put in a ATI card. But my extended desktop, which is my lcd-tv won't go higher then my lcd-screens resolution. With nvidia i could run fullhd on the tv, as I was using the lcds default resolution just to work on..anyone here that knows what im talking about?
[22:00] <Walkbo> Sajuta: It's up to .4.11 on the site if you want to check it out
[22:00] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Hardy or Intrepid? Intrepid has the newer.
[22:00] <XLV> ArShAm, yeah, but know that vmware isnt free, only the player is.. so you cant create the initial vm to use with player afterwards
[22:00] <ng0n> super grub wrecked me.
[22:01] <ecclesiastes> XLV: dd will copy the mbr?
[22:01] <rabe> any ideas?
[22:01] <rabe> does anyone know why ubuntu hangs up when i close my notebook??
[22:01] <timecist> anyone who wonders about the future of Sun can look at virtualbox and see how low their standards have gotten
[22:01] <ArShAm> ok , thanks
[22:01] <ArShAm> bye
[22:01] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
[22:01] <Walkbo> Walkbo: I'm on Intrepid now and it says the latest is 0.4.1-1...?
[22:01] <evilspawn4> can anyone help me with thunderbird in ubuntu? im trying to make it where it stays open all the time in the background and opens on startup
[22:01] <andrews>  nikolam: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[22:02] <XLV> ecclesiastes, he wont boot the partition per se, he will load it on a vm... maybe it''ll need some bootblock repairing
[22:02] <Walkbo> Sajuta: wait, I typed my own name there...
[22:02] <Sajuta> Walkbo: I haven't compiled in a long while. I think I became dependent on debs.
[22:02] <Sajuta> LOL
[22:02] <KDB9000> how do I move the applets in my panel that don't have the move option when you right click (ie. Network Manager, Bluetooth, and Battery)?
[22:02] <Sajuta> Walkbo: I saw. ;)
[22:02] <LjL> timecist: this has nothing to do with Ubuntu, and especially not Ubuntu support. please stay on topic.
[22:02] <cliechti> any one else with connection problems to security.ubuntu.com?
[22:02] <Sajuta> KDB9000: The separator is the key to it. Unlock it and drag.
[22:02] <Walkbo> Sajuta: Anyway, I'm not too worried about it as long as it works. Now to get to remove all that junk I installed to compile. Thanks again!
[22:02] <XLV> ecclesiastes, but yeah, dd copies also the mbr, or partition's boot record etc
[22:03] <Sajuta> Walkbo: Welcome!
[22:03] <gigel2006> I have ATHEROS AR9281 and ath9k installed, if I install ath5k what will it happen ?
[22:03] <highlife> Hey guys I updated ubuntu to 8.10 and my flash sound is no longer working, could someone help me fix this or at least point me in the right direction?
[22:03] <KDB9000> Sajuta, thx. I right clicked right next to one of the icons and there was the deparator
[22:03] <ecclesiastes> evilspawn: There should be a 'startup' file/directory for ubuntu. There is a command line switch for starting Thunderbird minimized.
[22:04] <Sajuta> KDB9000: You're welcome.
[22:04] <shameless> i'm trying to get ChemCad to work under hardy, i've got all the pre-requisite components installed, but the installer gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/m282a95b7
[22:04] <eddVRS> hi, I'm stuck at a blank screen after login. Anyone got any ideas how I can fix?
[22:04] <ecclesiastes> evilspawn: do you need more help?
[22:04] <ryanakca> For encrypting a home dir, should I use TrueCrypt or LUKS? Why?
[22:04] <rabe> does anyone know why ubuntu hangs up when i close my notebook??
[22:04] <nikolam> cliechti, I am using http to open security.ubuntu.com and it opens..
[22:04] <alec> im trying to format a flash drive that wont mount can anyone give me a hand?
[22:05] <hubar> what service should I restart to force font reload its hinting configuration???
[22:05] <comrademikhail> so i uninstalled pulseaudio and now sound works
[22:05] <LF|Irssi_> comrademikhail: that's what i did :)
[22:05] <nikolam> andrews, http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&client=mozilla&rls=org.debian%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=Creative+Labs+SB+Audigy+LS+site%3A.ubuntuforums.org&btnG=Search
[22:05] <comrademikhail> kinda sucks though.. i kinda like having multiple programs able to use the soudn at once
[22:05] <LF|Irssi_> yeah
[22:06] <LF|Irssi_> hopefully there will be a fix soon
[22:06] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, found your issue ?
[22:06] <strider_> Wait until they finally get the pulseaudio configuration right.
[22:06] <philippe_> eddVRS, take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346044
[22:06] <comrademikhail> joaopinto: yeah.. i didn't actually remove pulseaudio.. i nstead prevented alsa from forwarding to it by removing the relevent entries in /etc/asound.conf
[22:06] <ecclesiastes> eddVRS: how blank? empty desktop or blank screen?
[22:06] <cliechti> nikolam: thanks for trying. but here it doesn't work. the connection times out (server ip is 91.189.88.37)
[22:07] <comrademikhail> joaopinto: because if i removed it, that broke the whole installation, not even allowing me to log in.. found that out hte hard way
[22:07] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, you disabled pulseaudio ?
[22:07] <eddVRS> ecclesiastes: it's a blank screen, but has my mouse cursor on.
[22:07] <comrademikhail> joaopinto : yeah
[22:07] <eddVRS> philippe_: thanks I'll have a look
[22:07] <comrademikhail> joapinto: things are still not working right, hoever
[22:07] <ecclesiastes> eddVRS: is the cursor an arrow or an X?
[22:07] <comrademikhail> *however
[22:07] <eddVRS> arrow
[22:07] <nikolam> cliechti, same ip here. i am from europe
[22:08] <joaopinto> erm, the recent kernel upgrade was supposed to be a security fix only, I don't understand how did it mess up with the sound
[22:08] <cliechti> nikolam: hm, me too. maybe my ISP..
[22:08] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, we need to file a bug report (if it's not filed yet)
[22:09] <joaopinto> I am not on my laptop right now
[22:09] <RickZilla> Does it usually take ubuntu a few days to pick up the latest GIMP release? I see that 2.6.2 is out, but ubuntu says my 2.6.1 is the latest.
[22:09] <alec> can anyone help me with a flash drive that wont mount
[22:09] <rabe> does anyone know why ubuntu hangs up when i close my notebook??
[22:10] <RickZilla> rabe:  Because it's done with the call?
[22:10] <H4nta> every single upgrade i have ever done has been filled with misery. fuck this.
[22:10] <rabe> hm?
[22:10] <comrademikhail> this is ridiculour
[22:10] <timecist> rabe, you installed unsupported software so now noone can help you
[22:10] <nikolam> joaopinto, phoronix.com tested speed difference between 8.04.1 and 8.10 alpha2 on T60..
[22:10] <ecclesiastes> eddVRS: is the cursor an arrow or an X?
[22:10] <philippe_> RickZilla, it may take a few weeks actually. When .deb are available use this
[22:10] <comrademikhail> *ridiculous.. nothing's working
[22:10] <RickZilla> You asked why it hung up...I just said because it's done with the phone call :-)
[22:10] <rabe> this is wrong
[22:10] <RickZilla> philippe_:  Thanks
[22:10] <eddVRS> ecclesiastes: It's an arrow. I did an upgrade, and rebooted which resulted in this. I wonder if some packages are missing
[22:10] <rabe> it never worked
[22:10] <N4ILZ> howdy room
[22:11] <shameless> i'm trying to get ChemCad to work under hardy, i've got all the pre-requisite components installed, but the installer gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/m282a95b7
[22:11] <PastorBones> I'm having sound issues - bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[22:11] <nikolam> rabe, It supposely recognize standby button pressed and that is what closing action does on most notebooks, to save battery.
[22:11] <PastorBones> can't get anything to work
[22:11] <Maiku> does anyone have any problems with gnome-panel applets that never stay in the same spot after restart no matter how many times you move them back?
[22:12] <ecclesiastes> eddVRS: I'm reading the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346044
[22:13] <noupdateplease> ok, so I installed Ubuntu 8.10 with Kernel 2.6.27, but it keeps telling me I have to update the kernel, even if I already have updated it (unnecessarily) 2 times. How can I solve this problem, please?
[22:13] <hubar> what service should I restart to force font reload its hinting configuration???
[22:13] <highlife> Hey guys after upgrading to Ibex Flash sound no longer works, but music and system sounds do.  Could someone help me fix this?
[22:13] <cathy> hi again, still looking for some basic networking help with new intrepid installation
[22:13] <PastorBones> I'm having sound issues - bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy - sound won't play
[22:13] <PastorBones> I just installed a new board
[22:14] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, there is *another* kernel upgrade
[22:14] <ecclesiastes> eddVRS: the questioner finds a solution to your problem on the second page.
[22:14] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, but I have already updated it 2 times!
[22:14] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, today ?
[22:14] <noupdateplease> and it always looks like 2.6.27-7
[22:14] <Swian> glad I'm waiting on updating to 8.10
[22:15] <zack__> this may be off topic where could i talk about webhosting ?
[22:15] <luigi> !it
[22:15] <PastorBones> alsaconf is non-existant - no sound - /dev/dsp is busy....any ideas?
[22:15] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, yesterday evening. Should I update it again?
[22:15] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, open a terminal, and run: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[22:15] <BuFF> how to select a file in mc the fast way, pressing the first letter of the doesn't work, why ?
[22:15] <_dennister> hi again, still looking for some basic networking help with new intrepid installation
[22:15] <zetharx> is there a good reason to wait on the update from hardy to intrepid?
[22:15] <joaopinto> the latester kernel is 2.6.27-7.16
[22:15] <joaopinto> latest
[22:15] <rodrigo> Ola pessoal
[22:16] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, but be warned that some people are having issues with the latest upgrade
[22:16] <ecclesiastes> zack__: try ubuntu-offtopic?
[22:16] <gigel2006> Can you add extra drivers in ubuntu to support injection for ath9k?
[22:16] <SJrX> Is there any benifit to using the 64-bit version of Kubuntu if my proc supports it?
[22:16] <_dennister> dhcp was working at first, now i can't even ping the modem/router
[22:17] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, oh, now I can see I do not have the latest one. But shouldn't this be shown in the update window? Anyways, do I update it even with the problem out there?
[22:17] <ecclesiastes> gigel2006: If you know which ones you need, yeah.
[22:17] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, it's your choice, on my laptop sound is not working now :P
 I've been searching forever for ath9k injection drivers
[22:18] <noupdateplease> noupdateplease, I see. What's your sound card, btw? Is it Intel?
[22:18] <nikolam> shameless, Try to consult application database and see if it is supported under wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[22:18] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, I see. What's your sound card, btw? Is it Intel?
[22:18] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, yes
[22:18] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, but my desktop is also intel hda, and is working fine, so it only affects a specific model
[22:19] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, not good :x I better off wait for the next update, I suppose
[22:19] <eddVRS> ecclesiastes: good work, thanks. I'm using elinks to read it, so its a bit tough...
[22:19] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, I see. How can I check if mine is affected?
[22:19] <ecclesiastes> gigel2006: Sorry. you can specify loading them in /proc/modules.
[22:19] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, no idea :|
[22:20] <ecclesiastes> eddVRS: He installs KDE, but you should be able to install Gnome just as well.
[22:20] <Tundrayeti311> ecclesiastes: Did u mean /etc/modules ?
[22:20] <cads_> hello
[22:20] <FFForever> can i go back to 8.04 8.10 is well yeah............
 how do I do that please, /proc/modules ?
[22:20] <noupdateplease> joaopinto,  lspci | grep Audio
[22:20] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[22:20] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, I am not on the affected system right now :\
[22:20] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, what's yours?
[22:21] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, I see
[22:21] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, thank you anyway. :)
[22:21] <ecclesiastes> tundrayeti311: that's from the man page .. I'll look a little more.
[22:21] <Spaz926> Hello, I need to change my screen res in 8.10
[22:21] <joaopinto> mine is, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) <- desktop <- working fine
[22:21] <joaopinto> noupdateplease, you are safe
[22:22] <alec> i need help formatting a usb drive that wont mount?
[22:22] <noupdateplease> joaopinto, yeah, I see! Great news! :D
[22:22] <joaopinto> alec, does it get detected, can you see a plugin message with "dmest" on the terminal ?
[22:22] <Stele> Hi everyone
[22:22] <Tundrayeti311> ecclesiastes: I apologize, i didn't catch the 1st part of the conversation... for configuring whether a module loads or not, /etc/modules, /proc/modules is basicly the same as lsmod, which will give you the currently loaded modules
[22:23] <alec> it gets detected and there is an error message that says it cant mount volume
[22:23] <benno2> hi, any idea how I can enable cupsd listening on lpr port 515 on ubuntu (8.04) so that I can print to that machine from another machine using the lpr -H hostname cmd ?
[22:23] <joaopinto> alec, just use the partition editor to format it
[22:24] <ivantis> is 42 days uptime abnormal for an ubuntu desktop?
[22:24] <ivantis> 8.04
[22:24] <alec> joaopinto: i have tried and i get errors whenever i try to format
[22:24] <joaopinto> ivantis, you question is not really support related, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <zetharx> is there a good reason not to update from hardy?
[22:24] <ivantis> well it just like logged me out
[22:25] <joaopinto> ivantis, ok, that's a problem, not the uptime :P
[22:25] <comrademikhail> okay, so by some form of jypsy magic, i got my sound to work and multiple program can use it
[22:25] <ivantis> it went to the tty1
[22:25] <ecclesiastes> tundrayeti311: still you're correct ..
[22:25] <ivantis> then to the login screen
[22:25] <ryanakca> For encrypting a home dir, should I use TrueCrypt, dmcrypt or LUKS? Why?
[22:25] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, what did you besides killing pulseaudio ?
[22:25] <ivantis> all desktop processes destroyed
[22:25] <erUSUL> zetharx: hardy is a LTS release (Long Term Support)
[22:25] <erUSUL> !lts | zetharx
[22:26] <nyvhax> hello
[22:26] <guga|ucsd> anyone else have Wicd broken by intrepid?
[22:26] <comrademikhail> joaopinto: to be honest.. i have no idea.. i still have pulseaudio installed because without it it wouldn't let me log in because it uninstalled ubuntu-desktop.. i removed the entried from /etc/asound.conf that redirected the sound to pulseaudio and set everything back to use alsa
[22:26] <cads_> I upgraded to 8.10 but this broke my video in gnome. When I log in, the windows manager keeps crashing and restarting, causing the windows and panels to flash in an out of existence. Some sections from my Xorg.log highlighting the problem are here http://pastie.org/308302, and this is a complete listing http://pastie.org/308311 . I'd appreciate and help/guidance/direction you guys could give me in this problem.
[22:26] <cads_> what do you guys think?
[22:26] <nyvhax> someone knows how can i chmod a folder ?
[22:26] <ecclesiastes> gigel2006: My err: /etc/modules
[22:26] <joaopinto> comrademikhail, I will try it, thanks
[22:26] <comrademikhail> nyvhax : chmod -R
[22:26] <nyvhax> i want it in 777 and by the way, all the folders which will be create in this folder will have the chmod 777 too
[22:27] <noupdateplease> nyvhax, chmod -R user:group /path/to/folder
[22:27] <tyler_> can someone help me get my sound working?  worked fine in 8.04, modules don't even appear to be loaded...
[22:27] <exmachina> Hi guys, I'm trying to fix a firefox bug, I'm not sure if it's a ubuntu-exclusive issue (I'm using gentoo and I can't reproduce it), can one of you goto this page and tell me if it crashes your browser? It may also crash your xserver, just a word of warning: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443407
[22:27] <comrademikhail> joapinto: no problem.. good luck.. istill don't completely understand how i did it
[22:27] <sdfvdvf> Im running Ubuntu(and have tried other distros) on vmware on windows vista. i find it to be quite slow and buggy. slow i can see since it runs on vmware and with relatively little ram. but it seems it is hard to get it to work corrctly and it deos some unpredictable things. is a proper install much better? are there any problems with installing ona vista-computer? like will winows give me trouble when i want to erase it?
[22:27] <nyvhax> comrademikhail, not just the main folder, but all the folders which are in the main folder
[22:27] <noupdateplease> oops, nyvhax, chmod -R perm /path/to/folder
[22:27] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
[22:27] <comrademikhail> joapinto: a lot of experimenting
[22:28] <noupdateplease> nyvhax, chmod -R 777 /path/to/folder will do the trick
[22:28] <comrademikhail> nyvhax: chmod -R folder/*
[22:28] <ivantis> does anyone have an explanation?
[22:28] <ivantis> it just logged me out
[22:28] <Tundrayeti311> ecclesiastes: Did u add the module to /etc/module.d/blacklist ?
[22:28] <ivantis> but it has been up for 42 days
[22:28] <nyvhax> thanks you guys
[22:28] <nyvhax> good nightr
[22:28] <Stele> sdfvdvf: A proper install will give you better speeds and work way better
[22:28] <Tundrayeti311> ecclesiastes: Driver for what?
[22:29] <ecclesiastes> Tundrayeti311: Yes. both with blacklist and install    /bin/true
[22:29] <gigel2006> HELP, I typed sudo rmmod ath9k and my wireless is not available anymore
[22:29] <Stele> Does anyone here have a Dell XPS m1330? I just cant get the webcam to work with Intrepid... :S
[22:29] <erUSUL> gigel2006: sudo modprobe ath9k
[22:29] <Tundrayeti311> gigel2006: sudo modprobe ath9k
[22:29] <LF|Irssi_> #Kubuntu is not answering, but i installed KDE4 last night on ubuntu, everything is fine, but Vmware server wont load, do i have to reinstall vmware server?
[22:30] <ecclesiastes> Tundrayeti311: I have some captures ready for pastebin , which ones did you need?
 HOW can I load injection from /etc/modules for ath9k?
[22:30] <Neurologic_> I'm needing a Remote Desktop client that will work with Windows Server 2003, can someone give me a program? The default Remote Desktop Viewer in Ubuntu isn't working.
[22:30] <soopaulo> ui voce e um gato
[22:30] <Tundrayeti311> ecclesiastes: hmmm, how about /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:31] <demiurgeswill> anyone know about an irc logging bot?
[22:31] <joaopinto> Neurologic_, it works fine for me, connecting to windows server 2003 servers
[22:31] <ryanakca> For encrypting a home dir, should I use TrueCrypt, dmcrypt or LUKS? Why?
[22:31] <ecclesiastes> Tundrayeti311: It's a AEC62XX ide card ..
[22:31] <Neurologic_> joapinto, ok...so what's the proble then?
[22:31] <soopaulo> mais voce mora a onder
[22:31] <unop> Neurologic_, that's what you have to tell us :)
 HOW can I load injection drivers from /etc/modules for ath9k?
[22:32] <Neurologic_> unop, well...It worked fine on Kubuntu using whatever KDE one they have, but this one just says connection to host was closed.
[22:32] <Lytle> booting Linux(ubuntu 7.04) and XP Pro
[22:32] <stele> gigel2006: HAve you tried runnig Backtrack?
[22:32] <Lytle> how do I write to windows from linux?
[22:32] <ecclesiastes> Tundrayeti311: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68081/
 backtrack doesnt recognize my onboard AR9281 card
[22:32] <Lytle> how do i do that? ( I am a noob)
[22:33] <shigutso> Why nm-connection-editor isn't saving my settings in Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:33] <Cluber> mount your windows partition Lytle
[22:33] <stele> gigel2006: Not even the v3?
[22:33] <Lytle> i did that
[22:33] <erUSUL> !ntfs | Lytle
 yes backtrack 3 doesnt see my card
[22:33] <Cluber> You should be able to browse your files.
[22:33] <zivbk1> Has anyone here had a problem with the screen resolution or refresh rate settings on the gdm login page?  If so, how did you resolve it?
 what can I do ?
[22:34] <Lytle> going to dite 11 min...
[22:35] <stele> gigel2006: Have you tried searching google?
[22:35] <newbuntu> I have a problem with synergys. It worked fine in Hardy, but after upgrading to Intrepid whenever my mouse goes over to another computer and comes back, while the pointer still moves clicking does nothing. Any idea why this is so?
[22:35] <zivbk1> The problem is that it is using a refresh rate of 68 Hz and it should be set to 60.  I know this because I had the same problem after login and fixed it when I set the refresh to 60 Hz in the GUI dialog.
 yes, but no results, absolutely, you try and see for yourself "ath9k injection:
[22:35] <demetros> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu, and i'm kinda figuring everything out, but. I'm having trouble with .exe's and also with my graphics... can anyone help?
[22:35] <stele> gigel2006: Try ath9k +injection
[22:36] <harisund> How do I reduce the visual effects in Ubuntu? For example, when root authorization is needed, I don't want the whole screen going dark, when I want to shut down etc, when I minimize the window I just want the window to disappear, instead of animating itself downwards. Where do I go for these settings? (Please don't ask me to install xubuntu)
[22:36] <zivbk1> demetros, what is the problem?
[22:36] <LF|Irssi_> Synergy works fine in Intrepid, at least for me and im a noob to synergy
[22:36] <harlekin> demetros, you cant use .exes in Linux
[22:36] <stele> demetros: You do realize you cant just run .exe on Linux, right? You'll need to have Wine
[22:36] <tiredbones> Has anybody on the channel have WiFi running on a Dell inspiron 6000 laptop?
[22:36] <demetros> without wine
[22:36] <KnomeDE> im using an lcd monitor that supports a 1440x900 resolution though i can only set the resolution to 1024x768, any help?
[22:36] <vonkleist> demetros, .exe are for DOS/Windows/.NET
[22:37] <demetros> I know the wine thing, but the rendering fails.
[22:37] <Lytle> um.... site confusing.. plz help
[22:37] <newbuntu> LF|Irssi_: are u using a 64bit system by any chance?
[22:37] <sighK> sighk
[22:37] <stele> demetros: What program are you running under wine?
[22:37] <LF|Irssi_> no
[22:37] <demetros> I'm not sure about the 64bit, how would i find out.
[22:37] <demetros> Stele i'm playing a game called Fate Stay/night
 same thing
[22:37] <demetros> It's a visual novel.
[22:38] <meizbak> Everytime I do apt-get update I get a error saying a GPG key can't be trusted or something like that. It deeply annoys me. Is there a way to fix this, for gods sake?
[22:38] <stele> demetros: I'm not sure it'll ever run fine with Wine...
[22:38] <erUSUL> !gpgerror
[22:38] <Lytle> i can mount my windows partition but I can not write to it
[22:38] <unop> Neurologic_, are you sure you are using the RDP protocol with the client (i'm not sure how the default ubuntu client works as i don't run gnome) - alternatives are perhaps tsclient and grdesktop
[22:38] <erUSUL> !gpg
[22:38] <harisund> Any suggestions? Please don't tell me Ubuntu is the new OS X ... :(
[22:38] <stele> meizbak: Try adding the GPG key for the repository
[22:38] <newbuntu> LF|Irssi_: was it a fresh intrepid install
[22:38] <aura> #avengia
[22:39] <demetros> Oh! I also needed help with Virtual Drives... how do i do that?
[22:39] <meizbak> stele, yeah, the problem is that I don't know where the key is...
[22:39] <Lytle> hello? is anyone gonna help me?
[22:39] <meizbak> stele, there's no info about that
[22:39] <stele> Which repository is the one with the gpg error?
[22:39] <Neurologic_> neurologic, I am sure it's using RDP, it says that this program (On add/remove programs) only uses VNC, so I'm looking for another, tsclient?
[22:39] <meizbak> stele, which repo is using it or anything like that
[22:39] <meizbak> stele, I wish it told me!
[22:39] <shigutso> Why nm-connection-editor isn't saving my settings in Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:39] <Alrekr> Hi there. My Ubuntu (just updated from 8.04 LTS AMD64 to 8.10 through Update Manager) is looking weird. Like somebody spilled a bowl of 70's over my screen. The boot screen is okay, but the normal screen is really screwed up :(
[22:40] <stele> !gfxboot
[22:40] <Lytle> i still need help writeing to windows partition from linux
[22:40] <edmont> hi
[22:40] <vonkleist> demetros, what do you mean with Virtual Drives?
[22:40] <cllaudyu> hello
[22:40] <newbuntu> demetros: fate stay night should work, if u have WINE in stalled
[22:40] <Stele> Lytle: Try with the new ntfs driver... It comes with Intrepid
[22:41] <demetros> Like .iso's
[22:41] <Lytle> where do i get that?
[22:41] <Stele> !ntfs | Lytle
[22:41] <demetros> I do have wine installed but the rendering fails.
[22:41] <edmont> do you know if it is possible to use the scanner of a multifunction hp printer?
[22:41] <erUSUL> !iso | demetros
[22:41] <zivbk1> Install or update to intrepid.
[22:41] <meizbak> Stele, , do I have to go all over apt-get update to see if it prints which one or there's a log where I can look this info up?
[22:41] <cllaudyu> hello
[22:41] <zivbk1> hello
[22:41] <erUSUL> !scaner
[22:41] <Stele> !ntfs-3g | Lytle
[22:41] <newbuntu> demetros: did u configure wine properly? also for isos there's a graphical utility for mounting isos called Gmount
[22:41] <erUSUL> !sane
[22:41] <Stele> !Fuse | Lytle
[22:42] <cllaudyu> is it safe to upgrade to intrepid? i downgraded to hardy cause of errors
[22:42] <Stele> meizbak: Yep, do and apt-get update and it'll show you the repositories with the gpg error
[22:42] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
[22:42] <newbuntu> cllaudyu : how did u downgrade.. i might want to go back too!
[22:42] <erUSUL> !downgrade
[22:42] <jarco> lol
[22:42] <cllaudyu> i deleted 8.10 and reinstalled 8.04 from cd...
[22:43] <l3d> I reinstalled grub after i just added windows but it doesnt ask me what os to boot too how would I fix that?
[22:43] <demetros>  I don't know how to use Gmount. Also I'm not sure if i configured it correctly. I am entirely too new to linux...
[22:43] <newbuntu> cllaudyu : id' call that a clean install.. haha
[22:43] <demetros> Just call me a scrub.
[22:43] <cllaudyu> yeap
[22:43] <Stele> cllaudyu: I'm on Intrepid right now... No problems until now, just my webcam
[22:43] <cllaudyu> i had no chices...
[22:43] <cllaudyu> choices
[22:43] <Neurologic_> unop, I've just tried using Terminal Server Client, I get the error "getaddrinfo: Name or Service not known"
[22:43] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  With the new xserver from II, Option "EmulateWheel" doesn't work any longer.  How do I make it work again?
[22:43] <newbuntu> demetros: Gmount.. u just mount the iso.. using the graphical buttons.. and that's it
[22:43] <cllaudyu> nvidia driver is stil on problem?
[22:43] <cllaudyu> on intrepid?
[22:44] <newbuntu> cllaudyu : they work.... at leeast nv
[22:44] <rebel_kid> how can i get the size of a file in terminal
[22:44] <Stele> l3d: Try editing /boot/grub/menu.list and the do a grub-install
[22:44] <erUSUL> jonaskoelker: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#X.Org%20Input%20Devices
[22:44] <demetros> it's not working newbuntu, I'm trying to use backtrack3.iso but it isn't allowing me to make a virtual drive...
[22:44] <newbuntu> cllaudyu : I run CUDA on my x86_64 and so i use the official ones in combo with EnvyNG
[22:44] <LF|Irssi_> rebel_kid: ls -al
[22:44] <cliechti> rebel_kid: ls -lh <file>
[22:44] <cllaudyu> nvidia didn't worked for me... i tried to manually install it but x server did'nt let me...
[22:44] <Stele> cllaudyu: I'm using the nvidia driver right now
[22:44] <erUSUL> rebel_kid: du -hs file or ls -sh file
[22:44] <crtoe> hi all
[22:45] <esay> cllaudyu yes nvidia driver is problem on 8.10 da
[22:45] <newbuntu> demetros: In gmount, after you browse, and then mount onto location cdrom, a cdrom will pop-up
[22:45] <crtoe> blockdev --report /dev/* 2> /dev/null; # gives me a segfault
[22:45] <unop> Neurologic_, I assume you are using the name of the remote machine ?  can you ping that name?
[22:45] <crtoe> anyone else have this behavior?
[22:45] <BK> Hello
[22:45] <cllaudyu> hmmm i don't know if i can install it again i am afraid i'l have the same errors
[22:45] <demetros> How can I get the proper graphic drivers for a dell inspiron 1525 with an intel 960 graphics card?
[22:45] <esay> my graphics card mx4000
[22:45] <rebel_kid> erUSUL, that says the file is 1.6 GB but right-click -> properties says its 2.2 GB
[22:45] <newbuntu> cclaudyu: just the official nvidia drivers
[22:45] <demetros> Yes I see that but the cdrom isn't allowing me to do anything...
[22:45] <crtoe> actually blockdev --report /dev/*; # gives me a segfault
[22:45] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
[22:45] <esay> I haven't  driver
[22:45] <crtoe> anyone else have this problem?
[22:45] <demetros> it should work...
[22:45] <unop> rebel_kid, echo "width $COLUMNS height $LINES"
[22:45] <BK> I am looking for a command line or VIM solution to setting the refresh rate for the gdm login screen.
[22:45] <unop> rebel_kid, http://wooledge.org:8000/BashFAQ#head-a067084aa8b6dfddc118dd5927d4cd3f107be967
[22:45] <Spaz926> Can anyone help me reconfigure my screen res in Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop? Thanks.
[22:46] <sysdoc> X Server in Intrepid is a mess!!! Dual monitor separate X session, is broke!
[22:46] <erUSUL> demetros: intel is the driver and you should be using it already afaics
[22:46] <unop> BK, vim?
[22:46] <Stele> !dell
[22:46] <jonaskoelker> erUSUL: okay, so how do I enable EmulateWheel and other driver options?
[22:46] <Stele> !m1330
[22:46] <cllaudyu> yes i searched for nvidia in ubuntu8.10 on hardware drivers but it was empty
[22:46] <Neurologic_> unop, yep =)
[22:46] <edmont> erUSUL: thanks, i need to upgrade hplip, according to this: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_j4680_series.html
[22:46] <demetros> but everytime i full screen anything it gives me a blue screen and crashes...
[22:46] <unop> Neurologic_, yep means you can ping the hostname?
[22:46] <erUSUL> jonaskoelker: you can try the suggested sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ... but i'm not sure if that will fix your problem
[22:46] <esay> how is intel graphics card on intrepid?
[22:46] <BK> unop, yes, something through the command line, vi, vim, pico, etc.  Unless there is a way to do it through the GUI.
[22:47] <erUSUL> edmont: no problem
[22:47] <curtmack> What's the conventional method for upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid?
[22:47] <newbuntu> demetros: if u went found ur ISO via open and then Open the Mount point onto cdrom and then pressed Mount, a CD-rom will pop-up on ur desktop. If you can ope nthat mounting is working.
[22:47] <jonaskoelker> erUSUL: it won't, but thanks for trying
[22:47] <erUSUL> curtmack: use the update manager
[22:47] <unop> BK, you'll need to make changes to the xorg.conf
[22:47] <jonaskoelker> I think I need to poke HAL
[22:47] <erUSUL> !upgrade | curtmack
[22:47] <demetros> Thanks new.
[22:47] <esay> has it any problem intel graphics card on intrepid
[22:47] <erUSUL> !notes > curtmack
[22:47] <curtmack> Thanks
[22:47] <jonaskoelker> rotate the pod, please, HAL :)
[22:47] <demetros> Anyone know how to use Aircrack?
[22:47] <BK> unop, I have but I don't see anything regarding screen resolution or refresh rates.
[22:48] <Stele> demetros: On the BackTrack Forums there are a lot of tutorials
[22:48] <demetros> I can't figure it out tho...
[22:48] <demetros> p.q
[22:48] <temp1919> just upgraded to intrepid.. when i boot the ethernet doesnt come up... it shows in ifconfig but the static IP from /etc/network/interfaces is not assigend...
[22:48] <Neurologic_> unop, yes.
[22:49] <cllaudyu> i don't know if is it safe... to upgrade to intrepid i allready had major isuess ... if someone can tell me that nvidia driver nvidia geforce4 mx440 is working on intrepid i'l do that upgrade....
[22:49] <ecclesiastes> Help! I can't stop the wrong device driver from loading! blacklist failed.
[22:49] <unop> BK, see man xorg.conf  - not all directives are mentioned in the xorg.conf
[22:49] <erUSUL> !blacklist | ecclesiastes
[22:49] <BK> Here is what my xorg.conf file says now. http://pastebin.com/d5c3d65ce
[22:49] <patmaddox> I'm trying to connect to a WPA-protected network, and I type the password in...then it tells me it can't connect, but the password it shows me is totally encrypted.  It looks like it's doing some hash on it and sending the wrong password?  I'm not sure
[22:50] <demetros> So. I'm trying to play an mmo made for ubuntu, like I installed it via the app. but I swear the graphic driver has to be wrong, kuz it's just failing...
[22:50] <curtmack> okay, thanks
[22:50] <erUSUL> ecclesiastes: did you run sudo update-initramfs -u after blacklisting it
[22:50] <stage3> cllaudyu, Legacy nvidia driver isn' work in ubuntu 8.10, look at the notes release
[22:50] <Stele> cllaudyu: I have an  nvidia 8400gs on my laptop and Intrepid is running without any problems...
[22:50] <_dennister> could someone help me pls? having trouble with basic networking in intrepid...worked at first, now can't even ping my router
[22:50] <Lytle> that site doesnt help me and neither does the driver it recromends
[22:50] <cllaudyu> not all nvidia drivers has the same probl that i have i saw that...
[22:51] <Lytle> can i get a step by step?
[22:51] <Stele> patmaddox: It shows the real password for the WPA network... What you normally enter as the password is known as a pre-shared key
[22:51] <erUSUL> Lytle: install the package named "ntfs-config" then umount all your ntfs partitions and run "gksudo ntfs-config"
[22:51] <BK> unop, it seems to have a bunch of generic references to 'configured' things.
[22:51] <demetros> Anyone know how to use aircrack in the terminal? that can give me a quick run down?
[22:51] <rebel_kid> i need to transfer a 2.2 GB file from a ubuntu machine to a windows machine, is there a simple tool to do this (i know there are ones for win only) or would it just be easier to  upload to my SFTP server and download
[22:51] <cllaudyu> i don't know how to install nvidia on xserver on ubuntu 8.10 is telling me that i can't
[22:51] <BK> unop, the odd part is that I had to change the refresh rate after login through the GUI, but where is that saved?
[22:52] <chaos1> Has anyone seen this site: http://appnr.com? It allows you to see screenshots and read a little more about the programs before you install them. It also has an install button for installing via synaptic.
[22:52] <evilspawn4> can anyone help me with thunderbird and ubuntu?
[22:52] <temp1919> why is it that network mangager and avahi ignore /etc/network/interfaces
[22:52] <temp1919> ??
[22:52] <harlekin> evilspawn4, tell us your problem
[22:52] <joaopinto> chaos1, no need to spam here, this is a support channel
[22:52] <crtoe> blockdev --report /dev/*; # gives me a segfault, anyone else get this?
[22:53] <perillux> how can I make uswsusp the default method of suspend / hibernate??
[22:53] <Lytle> what do i do 4 mount pont?
[22:53] <erUSUL> rebel_kid: use netcat ? on both machines
[22:53] <unop> BK, that's not saved in the xorg.conf - that's a gconf setting if i remember right.  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[22:53] <evilspawn4> well im looking for a way to make ubuntu start on startup in the system tray and alert me when i get emails but this option does come with thunderbird and minimize to tray addon doesnt work with ubuntu so im looking for a way to do this on ubuntu
[22:53] <rebel_kid> erUSUL, never head of netcat... googeling
[22:54] <ecclesiastes_> erUSUL: the last thing I saw was a sudo command and I replied that I had rebooted instead..
[22:54] <Neurologic_> unop, I can ping the hostname, do you have any other suggestion for a solution, or? =(
[22:54] <evilspawn4> when i said ubuntu the first time i meant thunderbird
[22:54] <crtoe> seriously? netcat is essential for every admin to know of
[22:54] <Lytle> what do i put for mount point
[22:54] <erUSUL> rebel_kid: http://oreilly.com/pub/h/1058 <<< note the first comment too is -l in the example not l-
[22:54] <erUSUL> evilspawn4: use gnubiff
[22:55] <erUSUL> !info gnubiff | evilspawn4
[22:55] <evilspawn4> and i can make it start on startup and notify me when i get email?
[22:55] <Lytle> what do i put into <clich here to set mount point>?
[22:55] <harlekin> evilspawn4, can't help you i'm using evolution
[22:55] <perillux> is intrepid officially released yet?
[22:56] <Flare183> perillux: Yes
[22:56] <erUSUL> evilspawn4: its only task is to do exactly that
[22:56] <perillux> Flare183: how do I upgrade to it?
[22:56] <erUSUL> !upgrade | perillux
[22:56] <Stele> perillux: What version do you have?
[22:56] <Flare183> !upgrade | perl
[22:56] <Flare183> !upgrade | perillux
[22:56] <evilspawn4> so i just type apt-get gnubiff?
[22:56] <Lytle> i need a mount point plz hlp
[22:56] <perillux> Stele: I got hardy
[22:56] <Flare183> evilspawn4: sudo apt-get install gnubiff
[22:56] <evilspawn4> ok ty
[22:56] <neil_d> can I use wodim (alias cdrecord) to check if there is a blank CD in the drive ?
[22:56] <perillux> Flare183: thanks
[22:57] <Stele> perillux: Thne do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:57] <ecclesiastes_> evilspawn4: this might help : https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Command_Line_Options
[22:57] <unop> Neurologic_, try using rdesktop like this.   rdesktop  servername:3389
[22:57] <Flare183> perillux: Np
[22:57] <insigne> msn
[22:57] <erUSUL> Lytle: a mount point can be any empty folder
[22:57] <BK> unop, I see... so I need to add some more information to my xorg.conf file.
[22:57] <Stele> perillux: But you'll have to enable the update to non-lts versions
[22:57] <Neurologic_> unop, in the terminal?
[22:57] <Lytle> so what do i type in?
[22:57] <unop> BK, right yep
[22:57] <erUSUL> Lytle: usually created in /media/ or /mnt/
[22:57] <unop> BK, otherwise xorg.conf tries to choose some defaults for you
[22:57] <evilspawn4> ok i just installed it now how do i use it?
[22:57] <unop> Neurologic_, sure
[22:58] <erUSUL> evilspawn4: launch it
[22:58] <Neurologic_> unop, Oh hey! That worked!
[22:58] <BK> unop
[22:58] <Lytle> "/mnt/ contains an invalid chacator"
[22:58] <cllaudyu> i want to install latest version of vlc player on ubuntu 8.04 can any one help me and tell me how to do it ???
[22:58] <evilspawn4> oh lol ty
[22:58] <BK> unop thank you... I will add some refresh stuff and resolution info to the file.
[22:59] <evilspawn4> sorry i just installed linux yesterday so im still kinda new
[22:59] <Neurologic_> unop, so, thanks so much, but...does this mean I'll have to use rdesktop in the terminal to do it? Is there no program?
[22:59] <x_or> Can anyone advise me on a simple way to boot a process when the system starts. I am reading up on init.d scripts, but I'd like to find an automated way to write the script if possible.
[22:59] <unop> Neurologic_, then for some reason tsclient isn't choosing the right parameters - you might need to tweak it a bit, bear in mind that tsclient is actually a rdesktop GUI frontend
[22:59] <jarco> lol
[22:59] <wert613> Hello, can anyone helP me, recently after about and hour into my session, in gnome, which I installed sePerately on this system I am unable to tyPe a lower case P, I've tried to troubleshoot it.... But I can't think of any hotkeys or anything else that could cause such a Problem...
[22:59] <joaopinto> x_or, just edit /etc/rc.local
[23:00] <Neurologic_> unop, ok...how would I go about 'tweaking' it? It seems the port is the only problem.
[23:00] <GreedyB> Can anyone tell me what Fusesmb.cache is and why its taking up 50% processor and I can't kill the process?
[23:00] <krazy-h> Hi there
[23:00] <ecclesiastes_> cllaudyu: Have you used synaptic?
[23:00] <Flare183> !session | x_or
[23:00] <Lytle> help mounting still needed
[23:00] <Kassah> does anyone know where fish:// ssh/scp access operation went in KDE?
[23:00] <cllaudyu> ecclesiastes yes but it is a older version...
[23:00] <woody86> are there any Alarm Clock applets?
[23:00] <Lytle> need mount point /media/ and /mnt/ "have an invalid chacator"
[23:01] <unop> Neurologic_, tsclient chooses things like authentication , screen geometry, resolution, etc - try setting each to low defaults perhaps.
[23:01] <tiredbones> Has anybody on the channel have WiFi running on a Dell inspiron 6000 laptop?
[23:01] <cllaudyu> ecclesiastes_
[23:01] <greengoby> !kde
[23:02] <wert613> I've just realised it's not a lower case P I'm unable to tyPe, it's any P that isn't Pressed in succession with a modifer.
[23:02] <Lytle> "must choose name not directery"
[23:02] <Lytle> plz hlp
[23:02] <wert613> modifier
[23:02] <tsedreyt> Hey guys, can anymore help me out with amarok on ubunut?
[23:02] <ecclesiastes_> cllaudyu: do you have the URL for VLC?
[23:02] <wert613> Ctrl-P works for examPle
[23:02] <Flare183> !patience | Lytle
[23:02] <harlekin> tiredbones, whitch WLAN device is build in?
[23:02] <cllaudyu> ecclesiastes_ no
[23:02] <Brucee> i am installing ubuntu server 8.04 but when i type apt-get update, it wont connect
[23:02] <Lytle> k...
[23:02] <ecclesiastes_> cllaudyu: hold one while I find it.
[23:03] <Flare183> Brucee: ok What are you using to connect to the internet
[23:03] <purpzey> Can someone help me out, I can't seem to find the msttcorefonts package -- has it been removed from the repos or something?
[23:03] <Brucee> ethernet
[23:03] <perillux> ecclesiastes_: are you trying to install the VLC player?
[23:03] <Brucee> Flare183 i think its the sources.list
[23:03] <Neurologic_> unop, hmm...I did, and it seems like nothing's doing it...Is there a way to...make an icon that does that in the terminal?
[23:03] <tiredbones> harlekin, broadcom corp. bcm4318.
[23:03] <YlandeFaran> How much space does ubuntu require?! I have troubles getting through install on my 20GB hd.
[23:03] <Neurologic_> unop, so I don't need to run the terminal each time to do it?
[23:03] <daszorz> NO U
[23:03] <woody86> how can I change my wireless card from eth2 to wlan0?
[23:03] <Brucee> Flare183 , whats a good address to use in the sources.list?
[23:04] <YlandeFaran> the installation program returns to the partition step all the time.
[23:04] <cllaudyu> perillux i'm trying too but no succes ;((
[23:04] <wert613> I've just ascertained that restarting the Xserver fixed the issue
[23:04] <kindofabuzz> is compiz broken in Intrepid or is it just broken with nvidia legacy drivers?
[23:04] <Lytle> thanks guys i got it
[23:04] <unop> Neurologic_, sure, you can create a gnome-panel launcher that runs that command for you - but don't ask me how that's done, i don't use gnome.
[23:04] <purpzey> !font > purpzey
[23:04] <Flare183> Brucee: Its not in the sources.list
[23:04] <ecclesiastes_> perillux: not yet .. I was finding it first.
[23:04] <GreedyB> Can someone help me with fusesmb.cache?  Its taking up my cpu and I can't figure out how to stop it
[23:05] <Flare183> !install | YlandeFaran
[23:05] <Flare183> GreedyB: to kill it the hard way
[23:05] <Brucee> Flare183 its ubuntu server
[23:05] <Flare183> find out what the program ID is and use sudo kill
[23:06] <Flare183> Brucee: I know but what are you using to connect (e.g. Ethernet, Wireless, etc.)
[23:06] <Flare183> What?
[23:06] <GreedyB> Flare183: I think its coming back cause killing it doesnt do anything
[23:06] <Flare183> umm
[23:06] <Flare183> then stop the fuse service
[23:06] <Flare183> GreedyB: then stop the fuse service
[23:06] <GreedyB> Flare183: okay
[23:06] <Brucee> Flare183 i am trying to get sucrity updates with "" apt-get update
[23:07] <harlekin> tiredbones, normally it should work out of the box since version 7.04
[23:07] <Flare183> Brucee: I understand that, by how are you trying to connect to the internet?
[23:07] <perillux> ecclesiastes_: you can just install it from the terminal
[23:07] <Neurologic_> unop, thanks =) I'll ask someone else then
[23:07] <perillux> ecclesiastes_: sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:07] <unop> Neurologic_, :)
[23:08] <Brucee> Flare183 , thru ethernet cable
[23:08] <Neurologic_> Anyone know how to create a gnome-panel launcher, that will run a terminal command?
[23:08] <Neurologic_> This seems the logical place to look *lol*
[23:08] <Flare183> Brucee: ok And have you ran sudo dhclient yet?
[23:08] <ecclesiastes_> perillux: I was just talking to cllaudyu about that .. he's the one with the actual question.
[23:08] <unop> Neurologic_, i'll guess that you right click on the panel .. etc
[23:08] <Brucee> Flare183 , when i type ifconfig, it shows an ip
[23:08] <l3d> ok I see the grub menu now but I dont know what I should add to get it to boot to the windows side?
[23:08] <tiredbones> harlekin, I have release 8.04 and my son and I can seem to get it working.
[23:08] <Neurologic_> unop, oh, create custom application launcher?
[23:08] <Flare183> Brucee: Well pastebin the output
[23:08] <Maltor124> Hi, I was talking to danbhfive yesterday, but it looks like he's afk right now. Anyways, some help with Grub, it's installed, but for some reason it's not activating when I boot up. I have all of the files there, in /boot/grub/. I dunno what's wrong. Can anybody help me?
[23:09] <unop> Neurologic_, aye
[23:09] <Flare183> Brucee: And then give me the link to the paste
[23:09] <cllaudyu> if you can find a .deb package or a way to download vlc 0.9.5 on ubuntu 8.04
[23:09] <hanasaki> when I boot both nic's show in ifconfig .  why dont they get an IP address until I do a /etc/init.d/network restart ?
[23:09] <[T]ank> I am trying to add a vpn connection in ubuntu 8.10. When i open the vpn configuration dialog the button for adding a new vpn configuration is not selectable. Any ideas on why this would be? I just did the install. I have not done anything custom yet.
[23:09] <Neurologic_> unop, ok, so application in terminal, I assume, and under command I just put the rdesktop stuff?
[23:09] <perillux> cllaudyu: just go to a terminal and type       sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:10] <greengoby> Ok so ubotu points to the wiki on how to install kde...there is no package with the name given...will kde4-core install all of it?
[23:10] <lionsong> hello, im having a strange bug with firefox. im using the awn dock and have set up a launcher for firefox there, just using the cli command 'firefox'. now ever time ff starts it goes full screen. im baffled, sorry if thats not enough information to go on.
[23:10] <Flare183> [T]ank: Try it with gksudo or sudo
[23:10] <eddVRS> anyone know CLI command to show remaining laptop battery status?
[23:10] <Flare183> !bugs | lionsong
[23:10] <cllaudyu> perillux well i tried that and got this message: you have the latest vlc installed...
[23:10] <[T]ank> Flare183: what is the command to launch it. I am just clicking on the network icon on the top right of the screen
[23:10] <cllaudyu> my vlc is 0.8.6
[23:11] <Brucee> Flare183 , got it, it was the server on the sources.list
[23:11] <harlekin> tiredbones, have you tryed the new 8.10?
[23:11] <Brucee> Flare183 thanks tho
[23:11] <grizzancs> eddVRS: in /proc/acpi (or /proc/ something / acpi) there's a file something like BATT0
[23:11] <lionsong> sorry maby bug is too strong a word? im new to irc. its a strange behaviour that has only started happening in the past hour or so, it didnt beofre
[23:11] <perillux> cllaudyu: then you have vlc installed already
[23:11] <rhsanborn> What's the command to configure X server? (I just upgraded to Intrepid and X isn't starting correctly)
[23:11] <hanasaki> what are networkmanager and avahi ?
[23:11] <eddVRS> grizzancs: thanks mate
[23:11] <cllaudyu> perillux i have it but i want the latest version
[23:11] <unop> Neurologic_, that sounds like it, yea
[23:11] <grizzancs> np :) unfortunately i cannot give full path right now
[23:12] <Neurologic_> unop, woot! Got it! Thanks mate!
[23:12] <lionsong> rhsanborn >> i beleive its dpkg-reconfigure
[23:12] <unop> Neurologic_, yw
[23:12] <evilspawn4> hey guys i just installed gnubiff and i cant get it to work it keeps saying unable to connect to (directory) on port (number)
[23:12] <Double0> Just got done upgrading to intrepid from hardy, and I am having some issues with PPTP VPN.  Got it to connect up ok, and I can get nslookup, ping and ssh access, but nothing else.  Any ideas where to start looking?
[23:12] <luigi> -it
[23:12] <luigi> !it
[23:13] <cllaudyu> perillux ubuntu 8.04 has vlc 0.8.6 and ubuntu 8.10 has the lattest version i mean vlc 0.9.5 i can't install it on 8.04
[23:13] <YlandeFaran> Recomended minimum requirements for the hd is 8GB, I don't understand why my 20GB would be any problem. :/
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> is compiz broke in Intrepid with nvidia legacy?
[23:13] <wandana> Hello everyone, 8.10 is great but currently I've some issues with my VPN connection
[23:13] <perillux> cllaudyu: there is a way to still upgrade without having to find it online.  I forgot though
[23:13] <rhsanborn> lionsong, indeed, didn't give me the option to select a difference driver or resolution though...
[23:13] <tiredbones> harlekin, No not yet, we are going to wait a couple of months.My son is in college now and doesn't have the time to experiment with it.
[23:14] <Maltor124> Hi, I was talking to danbhfive yesterday, but it looks like he's afk right now. Anyways, some help with Grub, it's installed, but for some reason it's not activating when I boot up. I have all of the files there, in /boot/grub/. I dunno what's wrong. Can anybody help me?
[23:14] <Double0> wandana: me too!
[23:14] <wandana> So, where under ubuntu can I set the verbose mode for openvpn
[23:14] <lionsong> rhsanborn >> sorry cant be more help
[23:14] <rhsanborn> lionsong, no worries.
[23:14] <wandana> Hi Double0, cool, so we are already two ;)
[23:14] <cllaudyu> perillux if u find out pls lett me know...
[23:14] <kindofabuzz> !compiz > kindofabuzz
[23:15] <wandana> I receive strange messages like this:
[23:15] <wandana> Nov  6 09:15:01 ventus nm-dispatcher.action: Script '/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown' exited with error status 1.
[23:15] <wandana> Nov  6 09:15:10 ventus nm-openvpn[27003]: write to TUN/TAP : Invalid argument (code=22)
[23:16] <Double0> I get the same thing, but I am PPTP, rather than openvpn
[23:16] <Double0> Do your routes and nameservers change when you connect?
[23:16] <MExTux> clear
[23:16] <wandana> Well, looks all good
[23:16] <Double0> I have not yet determined whether or not that error is the actual cause of the problem
[23:17] <unop> anyone know how to have ntfs-3g used over ntfs when automatically mounting ntfs volumes?
[23:17] <acm1pt> hola vithe
[23:17] <acm1pt> acm1pt
[23:17] <Double0> I have gotten to the point where I can connect to VPN, ssh, nslookup and ping, but nothing else goes through
[23:18] <acm1pt> shut your fucking face uncle fuca
[23:18] <wandana> Ypu can use ssh via vpn?
[23:18] <Maltor124> Can anyone help me?
[23:18] <acm1pt> suck my dick uncle fuca
[23:18] <DoYouKnow> how do I get vmware working in ubuntu intrepid?
[23:18] <Double0> yes
[23:18] <eddVRS> acm1pt: tone down the language please
[23:18] <pen> hi
[23:19] <rhsanborn> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg simply asks about keyboard layouts and doesn't give me any options to handle resolution or drivers.
[23:19] <acm1pt> i want a girl to taste my dick
[23:19] <stdin> !ops | acm1pt
[23:19] <wandana> Double0: But then it seems that you vpn connection is running
[23:19] <acm1pt> shalom uncle fucker
[23:19] <dingumessiah> i need help with getting my 8800gt fan to run on full
[23:19] <harlekin> tiredbones, you have a private message
[23:19] <dingumessiah> im new to linux
[23:19] <ecclesiastes_> Help! Blacklisting the problem module doesn't work!
[23:20] <FreshPrince> i'm using winscp to transfer files from windows machine to linux, what can i use to transfer files from a Linux machine to a windows machine?
[23:20] <dingumessiah> !help
[23:20] <methods> can I ask questions in here for the new ubuntu ?
[23:20] <ecclesiastes_> methods: Yep.
[23:21] <Maltor124> Some help with Grub, it's installed, but for some reason it's not activating when I boot up. I have all of the files there, in /boot/grub/. I dunno what's wrong. Can anybody help me?
[23:21] <Pelo> where do module files need to be located to be loaded with modprobe ?
[23:21] <Maltor124> Sorry for spam, but I urgently need some help!
[23:21] <FreshPrince> methods, don't ask to ask, just ask!
[23:22] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: It sounds like a problem with the master boot record ( mbr ) or the linux equivalent
[23:22] <DoYouKnow> I want to boot x64 Windows Server 2008 R2 in an x86 virtual machine on linux... is this possible?
[23:22] <methods> yea my wireless card only use to work with ndiswrapper... now there is a restricted driver for it... both methods appear to detect networks in network manager... but neither methods seem to be able to actually make a full connect.... does network manager use iwconfig??? cause I don't see any settings on the card when it's connecting... Also does network manager use dhclient3 now ?
[23:22] <DoYouKnow> the pre-beta
[23:22] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: Is that what you were working on last?
[23:23] <wandana> Where in ubuntu can I set openvpn in a verbose mode?
[23:23] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Exactly, but I don't know what's wrong.
[23:23] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Uhm, what do you mean by that?
[23:23] <DoYouKnow> perhaps what I am asking for... is too great for even linux to handle
[23:23] <ompaul> Maltor124, this is advice, I don't know if I know the answer to your question, you are going to say something does not work - error messages are good
[23:23] <DoYouKnow> atm
[23:23] <ryanakca> unop: stab in the dark, but, automatically mounting, as in fstab? or in a script?
[23:23] <Flare183> !vpn | wandana
[23:23] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: I was just asking so that I was up to speed with your previous conversation.
[23:23] <DoYouKnow> because there hasn't been enough time to figure out the intricacies of the pre-beta and fix up the problems in the emulators
[23:24] <Flare183> methods: Is a broadcom wireless card?
[23:24] <gigel2007> How can I learn ubuntu like basics and basic commands ?
[23:24] <Flare183> !bash | gigel2007
[23:24] <majd> hey
[23:24] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Oh, right. Danbhfive last asked me to show him my menu.lst
[23:24] <fefefefe> hihi
[23:24] <philippe_> DoYouKnow, VirtualBox handle Windows Server 2008
[23:24] <unop> ryanakca, well, neither - I plug a USB stick in and have it mounted via dolphin or nautilus
[23:24] <dingumessiah> how do i controle gpu fan?
[23:24] <Guest71960> l
[23:25] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: But since then I've reinstalled Ubuntu, and I now HAVE a menu.lst, while I didn't before.
[23:25] <LostChild1> Hi, I have all my music stored on /home/matt/Music . I own a Zune and thus dual boot into Windows Vista Ultimate to use the proprietary (ick) Zune Software to sync my music. I have fs-driver installed on Vista to allow it to read/write to my Ext3 Drive. However, for a FEW folders say /home/matt/Music/JME/Famous or /home/matt/Emily Haines And The Soft Skeleton/What Doesn't have your back/ Vista will give me a "Cannot Find Fold
[23:25] <LostChild1> er" type error (And thus won't show up in the software) but if I'm using Ubuntu, I can browse and listen to those files a-ok (I can do this in Windows too, just, I can't change permissions to those folders, whereas I can to every other folder)
[23:25] <methods> Flare183:  you got it buddy !! but like i said i use to configure it via ndiswrapper and it would work fine... now it doesn't work via that method anymore... so I'm thinking it's a problem with the new kernel or something...
[23:25] <majd> ubuntu is working fine, i can boot into root CLI and it works fine, i can see the GUI for ubuntu loading, but as soon as that's done, my monitor blanks out and says Out of Range....any ideas?
[23:25] <ecclesiastes_> Malto124: but it's not using the menu ...
[23:25] <Flare183> methods: ok take a look at this factoid:
[23:25] <Flare183> !bcm | methods
[23:25] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: but it's not using the menu ...
[23:25] <philippe_> dingumessiah, with nvidia card, use nvclock : http://www.linuxhardware.org/nvclock/
[23:25] <Flare183> methods: That should help
[23:25] <_MarcoPau_> hello, since my last upgrade to kernel 2.6.24-21 I haven't been able to use alsa. is says there's no modules, and in the reps there only one alsa modules package which si for 2.6.24-18
[23:26] <methods> Fla thanks
[23:26] <Flare183> Flare183*
[23:26] <Flare183> methods: np
[23:26] <majd> my "Monitor" section in xorg.conf only has an identifier
[23:26] <legend2440> Pelo:  modprobe  looks  in  the  module  directory  /lib/modules/‘uname  -r‘  for  all  the modules and other files
 is that all I need to know ?
[23:26] <Double0> wandana: I agree, but I cannot get other types of traffic and applications to traverse :(
[23:26] <majd> when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it doesn't give me options for the monitor's refresh rate
[23:26] <rhsanborn> majd, I'm having the exact same problem
[23:26] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: I dunno, I just did what he told me to do. Before that I was given advice to reinstall Grub through the terminal, from a page. It reinstalled without any errors, but it didn't fix anything.
[23:27] <unop> ryanakca, same happens when i use something like  pmount at the shell
[23:27] <wandana> Double0: iptables running?
[23:27] <LostChild1> Hi, I have all my music stored on /home/matt/Music . I own a Zune and thus dual boot into Windows Vista Ultimate to use the proprietary (ick) Zune Software to sync my music. I have fs-driver installed on Vista to allow it to read/write to my Ext3 Drive. However, for a FEW folders say /home/matt/Music/JME/Famous or /home/matt/Emily Haines And The Soft Skeleton/What Doesn't have your back/ Vista will give me a "Cannot Find Fold
[23:27] <LostChild1> er" type error (And thus won't show up in the software) but if I'm using Ubuntu, I can browse and listen to those files a-ok (I can do this in Windows too, just, I can't change permissions to those folders, whereas I can to every other folder)
[23:27] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: The error message I'm getting is: BOOTMGR IS MISSING (newline) Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart.
[23:27] <l3d> ok grub is a pain in the but  i need to reinstall it all togeher and also it must see ubuntu and windows is there a site or some one to help me with this task?
[23:27] <jin_> if you put Ubuntu in a ramdisk would it be faster?
[23:27] <Double0> wandana: nope
[23:27] <leandropds> fuck all !
[23:27] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: hold one.
[23:28] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Okay, thanks
[23:28] <Flare183> !language | leandropds
[23:28] <wandana> Double0: Sorry, no idea. Not really an expert
[23:28] <ryanakca> unop: ah. no clue. Look into configuring HAL though... methinks it works with scripts under /usr/lib/hal or something. Might be able to write one for ntfs volumes that uses ntfs-3g instead...
[23:29] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: Is this a dual boot system?
[23:29] <gordonjcp> ah, forgot I was still connected here
[23:29] <Kassah> does anyone know what pkg kdebase-kio-plugins has been replaced with?
[23:29] <Grey_Loki> So i'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a USB flash drive for a livecd-style experience. I used UNetbootin to create a bootable USB drive, which seems to be recognised. However, i'm confronted with a boot: prompt. On the CD, I press enter and 'it goes', but with this USB thing I need to apparantly specify the kernel i'll be using. What should I be typing?
[23:29] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: No, this system had Vista previously, but I've formatted to ext3 twice since then. No traces are left of that I am aware of.
[23:29] <ryanakca> unop: ah, look at http://forum.ntfs-3g.org/viewtopic.php?t=267
[23:30] <Pelo> legend2440, thanks,  I was testing the proceedure to setup my neigbour's webcam on my comp but it's a MS so I might be out of luck
[23:30] <unop> ryanakca, thanks, i'll have a look at it
[23:30] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: And that's what happened to the mbr.
[23:31] <jspiro> Grey_Loki:  I don't use UNetbootin for booting Ubuntu off a USB volume.  I installed to HDD, then copied to an ext3 partition in the first 8GB of my USB (if it is later, it won't work on many PCs), then installed the "gujin" bootloader in the last 64MB of the USB volume (which I left unpartitioned.)  Gujin finds the kernel for me.  It works perfectly; I could not get grub to work.
[23:31] <jspiro> Grey_Loki: I don't even know anything about unetbootin.
[23:32] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: You mean it's deleted, too? I already booted successfully into Ubuntu twice, maybe three times before this happened. Like I said, Grub is there, though. Is some remnant of Windows screwing with it?
[23:32] <cllaudyu> help! i tried to do an update in terminal using command sudo apt-get update and i get this error Segmentation faultchete... 1%
[23:32] <hanasaki> when i boot my network card does not get an IP... the ip is configured as static in /ectc/network/interfaces  why is this?  what effect does NetworkManager and avahi have?
[23:32] <Spencer> hi
[23:33] <Spencer> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[23:33] <jspiro> cllaudyu:  you found a bug.  Report it in launchpad if you like.  It will be appreciated and help others.  If you refuse:  Try sudo aptitude update instead.  It might work.
[23:33] <Grey_Loki> jspiro, I was only using it because I don't have any spare CDs, and all the shops are shut ;) My understanding of it is that it creates a 'CD on a disk' for you to use
[23:33] <Spencer> bye
[23:33] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: you've booted Ubuntu since your last re-format?
[23:33] <chrziz> I upgraded my router and ubuntu finds the wireless network, but wont connect even though all my other machines can connect. Any ideas?
[23:33] <jspiro> Grey_Loki:  then speak with a friend on MSN and get a CD.  Or go to a 24-hour pharmacy, if you have one in your city.
[23:33] <cllaudyu> jspiro how to repport the bugg? it didn't work...
[23:34] <jspiro> cllaudyu:  do you have a spare 10 minutes?
[23:34] <cllaudyu> ok
[23:34] <hanasaki> why is it that when I i do have an static IP on my interface nic gnome assigns a dhcp ip when I login?
[23:34] <jspiro> cllaudyu:  yes?
[23:34] <cllaudyu> yes
[23:35] <FoeNyx> hello, I have a small question, after an upgrade to ibex, all my kde4 applications refuses to work (even under gnome) ~ (there are no desktop effect or compiz installed) all the kde4 application process run wild (100% cpu) but without anything displayed. I tried to remove my ~/.kde but that don't change anything. has someone an idea about this problem ?
[23:35] <RAdams> nvidia-settings crashes when trying to save to x configuration file after enabling a second monitor, using nvidia-glx-new. Can anyone tell me how to find out what it is trying to write to the xorg.conf so I can add it myself?
[23:35] <jspiro> cllaudyu: please wait 2 minutes
[23:35] <cllaudyu> i'l wait
[23:35] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Yes, I installed 8.04, then upgraded to 8.10, rebooted, then installed NVIDIA drivers, then rebooted again. On the third reboot is when Grub mysteriously disappeared.
[23:36] <RAdams> Maltor124: Have you tried grub-update?
[23:36] <Maltor124> RAdams: How do I do that?
[23:36] <chrziz> Is there any reason my ubuntu wont connect to my new router when the new router has the same settings as the old one that it was able to connect it?
[23:36] <RAdams> Maltor124: sorry, update-grub. Run sudo update-grub in a terminal
[23:37] <cllaudyu> Segmentation faultchete... 1% every time i use sudo apt-get update :(((
[23:37] <RAdams> chrziz: Is your router set to DHCP?
[23:37] <dingumessiah> can someone plz help me install stuff from the desktop
[23:37] <chrziz> RAdams: yes, both are
[23:37] <ecclesiastes_> RAdams: Maltor124 said he had a good menu.lst
[23:38] <cllaudyu> hmmmm
[23:38] <chrziz> RAdams: Ubuntu finds the network, promps for the network key and fails to connect every time
[23:38] <RAdams> ecclesiastes_: ok. Maltor124, post your menu.lst to pastebin
[23:38] <Maltor124> RAdams: Okay.
[23:39] <jspiro> cllaudyu: please join me in #ubuntu-bugs
[23:39] <Maltor124> RAdams: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68121/
[23:39] <jspiro> cllaudyu: i will explain the question for you
[23:39] <jspiro> in there
[23:39] <cllaudyu> jspiro ok
[23:39] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/68121/
[23:39] <RAdams> Maltor124: still try the command I suggested, but backup your menu.lst first: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[23:39] <dingumessiah> i need help installing things!
[23:40] <iztehsux> er does ubuntu intrepid use alsa?
[23:40] <RAdams> chrziz: oh wireless. okay, is the new router the same exact model as the old?
[23:40] <RAdams> iztehsux: defaultly, yes
[23:40] <RAdams> nvidia-settings crashes when trying to save to x configuration file after enabling a second monitor, using nvidia-glx-new. Can anyone tell me how to find out what it is trying to write to the xorg.conf so I can add it myself?
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> dingumessiah; use synaptic under System>Administration
[23:41] <iztehsux> RAdams: i installed the broadcom driver for my laptop and now my sound died unexpectedly. do you know how to reconfigure it?
[23:41] <chrziz> RAdams: no, I upgraded from a Lynksis WRT54GS to a Linksys WRT160N
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> chrziz; do you have a 'N' wifi card?
[23:41] <RAdams> chrziz: are you using the same wifi card in the computer as before? is it a g-only card?
[23:42] <chrziz> bastid_raZor: I dont have a N card but it should be backwards compatible
[23:42] <carlinhos> hi, can anyone help me with my screen resolution 1680x1050 with laptop?
[23:42] <Double0> it appears that I am having nameserver issues with my vpn connection.  resolv.conf gets updates, and nslookup notices the changes, but nothing else does.  Any idea how to force the change to propagate?
[23:42] <chrziz> RAdams: same wifi card as before
[23:42] <RAdams> chrziz: try and set the router to G only
[23:42] <saxofoner> what happened to the gimmie panel applet?
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> chrziz; you may need to set the router up specially to broadcast b/g instead of N ..
[23:43] <chrziz> RAdams: thanks I will try that
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> RAdams; you're on the right path. i'll let you solve his issues :)
[23:43] <RAdams> carlinhos: please state the model of your laptop and your specific problem and post your xorg.conf to pastebin.
[23:43] <chrziz> basid_raZor: I have it set on Auto right now
[23:43] <carlinhos> thanks RAdams, i am new here
[23:44] <Maltor124> RAdams: update-grub reports no directory for GRUB. That's probably because Grub is actually at /media/disk/boot/grub (I'm running from the live CD)
[23:44] <carlinhos> paste all here but not xorg?
[23:44] <Maltor124> RAdams: There any way I can specify a custom dir?
[23:44] <saxofoner> !gimmie
[23:44] <chrziz> bastid_raZor: thanks for the suggestion as well, i will tryi t
[23:44] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: can you mount the disk you want to boot from?
[23:45] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: nevermind.. stupid question. can you check to see that that partition is marked as bootable?
[23:45] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Yeah, I was gonna say it's already mounted. Okay, checking.
[23:45] <carlinhos> RAdams: my laptop is MSI PR300 and i want resolution on my screen of 22" of 1680x1050 and i dont know how to configure it
[23:46] <japanfred> hey everyone, since upgrading to 8.10, any sound via alsa is just a crackle? is this a known issue?
[23:46] <unop> ryanakca, i couldn't find any hal scripts on my machine - so i did some searching and found this http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#plugandplay  creating the symlink works just right, thanks again :)
[23:46] <RAdams> Maltor124: oh, that's why. Yes, grub will get borked routinely when running from the live cd, because the automagic kernel updater for grub doesn't expect that. You will have to patch grub manually each time you install a new kernel, and stop the automagic updates
[23:47] <RAdams> Maltor124: there might be a way to redirect it, the silly way would be to softlink it in the real /boot directory
[23:47] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: I can't find where it is, where exactly would I find that info?
[23:47] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: RAdams has the answer
[23:47] <RAdams> carlinhos: what video card?
[23:47] <rebel_kid> crud, im using SFTP (openSSH) to connect to my box, it only has public key authentication enabled, i have disconnected the external network (for security) how can i temporarily enable password authentication ( i forgot :( )
[23:48] <yosyp> how much space does a normal ubuntu install take up?
[23:48] <Maltor124> RAdams: Uh, maybe you misunderstood, my real Linux install is on the hard drive. I am just using this for recovery purposes. THis would apply anyway..?
[23:48] <RAdams> rebel_kid: change your sshd.conf
[23:48] <chrziz> RAdams: I for got to tell you that I can connect to the network through Vista on the same computer, so do you think switching to G-only would still help?
[23:48] <RAdams> Maltor124: yes, i did misunderstand
[23:48] <rebel_kid> RAdams, change what specifically
[23:48] <erUSUL> !requirements
[23:48] <jin> hi, is there a way to clear all cache in ram?
[23:48] <RAdams> chrziz: try it
[23:48] <carlinhos> RAdams: this video card  Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[23:48] <LF|Irssi_> rebel_kid: Im actaully trying to do the opposite, i WANT key, not password for my sshd, but cant seem to figure out how to do that in the config
[23:48] <RAdams> carlinhos: one moment
[23:49] <RAdams> rebel_kid: hold on, looking, been awhile
[23:49] <chrziz> RAdams: thanks for the help!
[23:49] <rebel_kid> RAdams, also that file is not located
[23:49] <carlinhos> RAdams: sure, thanks a lot
[23:49] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: Im looking ...
[23:49] <rebel_kid> LF|Irssi, found it, heres the article i used to set it up http://www.howtoforge.com/set-up-ssh-with-public-key-authentication-debian-etch
[23:49] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Alright, thanks a lot.
[23:49] <rebel_kid> LF|Irssi, its for debian but debian == preconfigured debian for the most part
[23:50] <RAdams> rebel_kid: /etc/ssh/ssh_config, change PasswordAuthentication to True
[23:50] <rebel_kid> ty RAdams
[23:50] <RAdams> rebel_kid: yes, not true, sorry
[23:50] <RAdams> Although true might work...
[23:50] <LF|Irssi_> ok rebel_kid ty
[23:50] <sdfvdvf> 2 of the main advantages for linux over windows i thought were: 1. stability/reliability/control/speed, ie always being able to tell the computer what to do, no runaway processes eating up all rsources maing thre machine unrepsonsive. 2. programmer convenience, package salways working. yeah some packages dont work for windows but do on linux but hey it is often the other way around too. #### Im running on vmware and i dont have a supercomp
[23:50] <rebel_kid> RAdams, what i meant by that is that setup for many things is the same
[23:50] <mzuverink> Firefox continues to repeatedly take over the whole desktop hiding my upper and lower panel, anyone else having this issue
[23:50] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: can you run GParted? the partion editor?
[23:51] <brandon_> That happened to me once, mzuverink
[23:51] <mzuverink> brandon_, it happens to me 3  out of 4 times
[23:52] <brandon_> I believe it /might/ have been fixed by right clicking on... oh, wait, it's not visible...
[23:52] <brandon_> Oh, wait
[23:52] <RAdams> carlinhos: does the monitor show up in the screen resolution utility under System --> Preferences?
[23:52] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: From the live CD? It's at Administration > Partition Editor, right?
[23:52] <brandon_> Try alt-tabbing into another window
[23:52] <_abbe_> can anyone tell me what to when I get this error message i synaptic "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault" when I try to remove envyng-qt package ?? I can reinstall it but nor remove it :(
[23:52] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: Yeah.. we're just going to look for now
[23:52] <brandon_> Then right-clicking on the firefox icon in the lower taskbar and clicking 'move'
[23:53] <brandon_> Or... if that doesn't work, try using the alt key and the arrow keys to get to it from there
[23:53] <brandon_> I... think that works on Linux...
[23:53] <brandon_> Er... no it doesn't
[23:53] <carlinhos> RAdams: no, it shows perfecto on laptop, 1280... but not enough on my screen, 1378x768 and i need 1680x1050. I think i need configure xorg but i dont know how
[23:53] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Okay, there's only /dev/sda1
[23:53] <RAdams> nvidia-settings crashes when trying to save to x configuration file after enabling a second monitor, using nvidia-glx-new. Can anyone tell me how to find out what it is trying to write to the xorg.conf so I can add it myself?
[23:53] <brandon_> Aha, Alt+F7
[23:53] <brandon_> See if that works..?
[23:53] <RAdams> carlinhos: okay, are you attempting to run dual display, or just single?
[23:54] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: It's on ext3, mountpoint is /media/disk, size is 300GB, used is 5.9GB, it's flagged as boot.
[23:54] <carlinhos> RAdams: dual is no need. Just need 22" at home, and laptop outside
[23:54] <chad1> Any way to monitor laptop fans speed and internal temp in 8.10  ?
[23:55] <brandonperry> why is update-manager telling me it is going to update blacklisted packages?
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> chad1; lm-sensors
[23:55] <brandon_> mzuverink: Oh... try f11, that's full-screen mode
[23:55] <JaJA_9_6_1995> Hello does anyone know of any good pep band songs/marches?
[23:55] <RAdams> carlinhos: ok, you need to set the modeline then. google your-monitor-model modeline, e.g. Samsung SyncMaster 910t modeline
[23:55] <RAdams> !offtopic | JaJA_9_6_1995
[23:55] <chad1> bastid_raZor: thanks
[23:55] <_abbe_> can anyone tell me what to when I get this error message i synaptic "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault" when I try to remove envyng-qt package ?? I can reinstall it but nor remove it
[23:56] <carlinhos> RAdams: i'll try it. wait a minute
[23:56] <Flare183> _abbe_: That means that dpkg crashed
[23:56] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: OK ... at least we know it isn't that ..
[23:56] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: it has a mountpoint?
[23:56]  * Flare183 is available to help
[23:57] <Maltor124> ecclesiastes_: Yep, at media/disk (or just / when I'm on the real install)
[23:58] <_abbe_> okej thanks looking on the web for some sulotion
[23:59] <woody86> anybody know how to get the wireless network, signal strength, Distro name, and Version displayed on conky? I tried #conky, but it's dead
[23:59] <ecclesiastes_> Maltor124: I found this : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions.org-member-success-stories-23/grub-howto-and-troubleshooter-237511/
[23:59] <carlinhos> RAdams: is this ok? at the moment i just found this: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/radeon-hd-2600-pro-%2B-hanns-g-hg216d-in-xorg.c/#post-1318812