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HobbseeRiddell: prodded.00:16
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JontheEchidnawhoa, kdebase has less bugs than kdepim now o_O02:41
ScottKDo we have a bug to comment about 4.1.3 and is it up to being copied?02:47
ScottKOK.  Here we go for 4.1.3.  203 upgraded ....03:20
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ScottKNow keyboard shortcuts in Konqueror.  Anyone else got that?04:43
ScottKNow/no04:44
ScottKBut ctrl w works.  ctrl f and f3 do not.04:45
rgreeningScottK: Need to know what to do with a SRU on my kdesdk merge... I have it prepared currently without. Should I go ahead with that or add in the SRU change (bug 292322)06:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 292322 in kdesdk "[SRU] kdesvn can't be installed alongside kdesdk" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29232206:52
rgreeningScottK my merge bug is 294286 for reference06:53
rgreeningbug 29428606:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294286 in kdesdk "kdesdk 4.1.2: new changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29428606:53
jussi01grumble grumble... stpid ati drivers and jockey.... grumble grumble08:32
jussi01oh, Hi everyone!08:32
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RiddellScottK: finally able to flush those backports11:17
Riddellthat was a big sync being run11:18
davmor2Riddell: should Kate pick up on context highlighting? So if I create a file with <a href="http://www.kubuntu.org">Kubuntu</a> and hit save as meh.html should the text in the open kate then get context highlighted like it does in gedit or only when reopening the file?11:35
seaLnemy experience would suggest only on reopening11:37
Riddelldavmor2: yes I seem to mind that happening in the past11:37
RiddellI think the KDE 3 version set highlighting on save11:37
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RiddellJontheEchidna: kdeartwork and accessibility uploaded12:10
Riddellrgreening: kdetoys seems fine, not sure why I thought it wasn't yesterday, uploaded12:13
JontheEchidnagood morning12:21
JontheEchidnadavmor2: I get highlighting on save, then changeing the file12:23
davmor2JontheEchidna: I just did a default install plus updates and it didn't.  The text stays black.  However on reopening the file I saved the highlighting is then in place.12:25
davmor2JontheEchidna: are you adding text then hitting save as or hitting save as and then adding text?12:29
JontheEchidnasaving, then hitting the enter key12:30
davmor2JontheEchidna: Ah does now your right :)12:30
JontheEchidna:)12:30
davmor2JontheEchidna: however still not the most usable feature :(  In gedit (for all it's woe's) you hit save as and it all becomes colourful which according to Riddell is what used to happen with Kate12:32
Riddellrgreening: you're still working on kdesdk?12:32
Riddellmm, how confusing of kate12:33
Riddellshould be reported upstream that12:34
Riddellanyone done a test install of 4.1.3 from -backports?12:40
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Nightrosei installed it but didn't test12:50
Nightroseno problems with the install12:50
RiddellNightrose: installed from -backports?12:50
Nightrosewhere else could i get it? i also have the kde 4 ppa enabled12:51
Nightroseso if it is in there it might as well be from that one12:51
RiddellNightrose: groovy sorted12:52
Nightrosek k12:52
Riddellit was in the kubuntu-updates-testing PPA too but you'd know if you had that12:52
Nightroseyea - don't have that12:52
Riddell^seelenn^12:54
Riddellmm, didn't want to do that12:54
rgreeningRiddell: there were two issues with kdetoys: 1) you wanted me to re-check the build deps and 2) ScottK corrected me on the changelog merge process (which I messed up). So, in kdetoys, we may have a couple of extra deps and the changelog entry may not be 100% correct. I hadn't had a chance to recheck either as I was in the process of fixing kdesdk (while I rewrot emy process notes)12:58
Riddellrgreening: the deps look fine12:59
Riddellwe don't seem to need the extra ones they have12:59
Riddellat least no problems in the cmake output or building13:00
rgreeningRiddell: ok. the changelog below the last merge was taken from ubuntu rather than debian13:00
Riddellthat's where it should be taken from no?13:00
rgreeningRiddell: according to ScottK: he says take from debian prior to last merge13:01
Riddellthat would lose all the ubuntu history13:01
JontheEchidnargreening: are you sure he didn't say take everything from debian after the last merge?13:01
rgreeningRiddell: that's what I thought.13:01
rgreeningJontheEchidna: no, not that I think so. Cause he wanted me to put all the changes in at the merge13:02
* rgreening confused now...13:02
rgreeningI think we need ScottK to help clear this up. Riddell and ScottK should duke it out :)13:02
rgreening<ScottK> rgreening: OK.  Everything prior to 'Fake sync' should be pure Debian.13:03
rgreeningRiddell: ^^13:03
Riddellsounds like we disagree :)13:03
rgreeningI like your way Riddell. Keeps the history.13:03
Riddellthat's my thinking13:04
rgreeningOk, I'll redo kdesdk (again) and get you to sponsor it. :)13:04
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Debian has updated their kde packages in experimental to 4.1.3 now. Should we wait until they package 4.2 to merge these?13:09
rgreeningRiddell: should my changelog entry then include historical changes made prior to the merge or just new stuff due to the merge? ScottK wanted every change listed in the merge note (as the history was going to be gone in his method).13:09
rgreeningJontheEchidna, Riddell: do we need to merge 4.1.2 if 4.1.3 is now there? Should we merge on 4.1.3 instead?13:11
JontheEchidnargreening: jaunty don't have 4.1.313:11
Riddellmerge on either, but no need to do a second merge13:11
Riddellrgreening: it should include a "remaining changes" section which lists our differences to debian13:12
rgreeningRiddell: k13:12
Riddellwe also tend to include the same in KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES files in KDE packages13:12
JontheEchidna^very handy13:13
rgreeningRiddell: thee was a SRU for kdesdk. I believe I should include it. It's a small dep change.13:15
Riddellrgreening: yes please do13:15
rgreeningk13:15
rgreeningRiddell: to send to debian should I email diff to pkg-kde-talk@lists.alioth.debian.org and is there anything else to do to notify debian?13:33
Riddellrgreening: I put the debdiff between theirs and ours on a web server somewhere (attached to the bug is fine), e-mail the link to them and highlight anything that might interest them13:36
Riddells/highlight/summarise/13:36
rgreeningok.13:36
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rgreeningRiddell: so are we going to continue the merge on 4.1.2 or 4.1.3?14:07
rgreeningJontheEchidna: you 'round?14:13
JontheEchidnaya14:14
rgreeningJontheEchidna: you sticking with 4.1.2?14:17
rgreeningfor merge?14:17
JontheEchidnano clue what to do14:17
rgreeningyeah.14:17
rgreeningprob best to stick with what we started 4.1.2 and then carry the 4.1.3 changes forward to our 4.1.3...14:18
rgreeningand backport them for intrepid14:19
rgreeningthough, that's a pain too14:20
rgreeninghrmph14:20
txwikingerhi rgreening14:23
rgreeningtxwikinger: hey14:24
Riddellrgreening: whatever is current in debian14:36
Riddellit doesn't really matter, we'll update to 4.2 once we've done the main merges14:36
rgreeningRiddell: so, should we redo the 4.1.2 ones we have done? if we start with 4.1.3 now14:39
Riddellno14:39
rgreeningok.14:39
Riddellwe just want debian's packaging, the upstream version doesn't matter for the reason I gave some moments ago14:40
rgreeningSince I haven't submitted kdesdk 4.1.2 is it ok to update the bug and do it with 4.1.3 then?14:40
rgreeningRiddell: ^14:40
Riddellrgreening: seems like it's just extra work for yourself14:40
rgreeninglol14:40
rgreeningok, 4.1.2 it is then for that one.14:40
rgreeningthouh we need to make sure the SRU gets into our 4.1.3 ver14:40
Riddellwe won't have a 4.1.3 version14:41
Riddellfor the reason I gave some moments ago14:41
rgreeningoh, right.14:41
rgreeninggot it now.14:41
* txwikinger wants the old clock plugin back14:45
rgreening~twitter update Patching, Updating and Merging.. oh my14:45
kubotustatus updated14:45
glade88has the dolphin menu option "open as root" been removed completely?14:45
rgreeningRiddell: bug 294286 needs sponsor for upload (merge kdesdk)14:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294286 in kdesdk "kdesdk 4.1.2: new changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29428614:51
* Riddell takes a keek14:54
rgreeningRiddell: in LP, we have 4.1.2 for Jaunty, so we take that and match against the debian 4.1.3? which doesn't make sense to me... unless I misunderstand... or do we take the 4.1.3 from hardy and match against the 4.1.3 from debian and update the changelog to say jaunty? color me cunfussed...15:01
aparedeshi. I have been using kubuntu for a little over a year and I want to help out. What can I do or who can I help?15:03
Riddellrgreening: take the debian packaging (.orig and debian/ directory) and copy in our changes15:05
Riddellhi aparedes!15:05
Riddellaparedes: you've come to the right place, hang around here15:05
Riddellaparedes: we have https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu although it's a little out of date15:10
Riddellaparedes: right now we're doing merges (with debian) which requires a little packaging knowledge but hopefully not too much15:11
aparedesRiddel: ok, ill check out the webpage15:11
Riddellaparedes: there's also always bugs to triage and docs to update15:11
Riddellaparedes: are you a coder, or a writer or a compiling type?15:12
Riddellaparedes: are you running 8.10?15:12
aparedesyes, i am running 8.1015:12
Riddellgood first step that :)15:12
Riddellon thing I was looking for someone to take on earlier today was updating this page for 8.10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu15:13
aparedesRiddell: i would say im a coder but im starting, and i am up for anything. i am checking out the Repositories page.15:16
mornfallRiddell: Hmm. What should I do with those bug reports I have started to receive about software-properties-kde?15:38
mornfallWhom do I reassign, or should I close them right away?15:38
mornfallPeople are confused that it's not the same app as adept, I guess.15:39
Riddellmornfall: close and point them at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties I guess15:39
Riddellmornfall: unless it's to do with adept's integration with software-properties, in which case point them at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept15:40
mornfallOk, will do, thanks.15:41
JontheEchidnaum, I think our soprano packages are still using /usr/lib/kde4/ as their prefix15:48
JontheEchidnathey're using old cdbs15:48
Riddelldpkg -L libsoprano4  says not15:49
JontheEchidnaoh, that stuff in the cdbs is commented out15:49
JontheEchidnanvm15:49
JontheEchidnabug 294723 is what I'm looking at15:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294723 in kdebase-runtime "nepomuk uses directory .kde4 instead of .kde to store its repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29472315:51
JontheEchidnaaha15:51
JontheEchidnastrigibackend/nepomukmainmodel.cpp:            kdeHome = QDir::homePath() + "/.kde4";15:51
Riddellwhere's that?15:52
JontheEchidnakdebase-runtime-4.1.3/nepomuk15:52
JontheEchidnahardcoded into the strigi backend15:52
rgreeningJontheEchidna: ew.. that should be a var KDEHOMEDIR or something correct?15:53
JontheEchidnaya15:53
JontheEchidnabut that explains the above bug15:53
JontheEchidnawho knows how many other issues it has caused15:54
rgreeningexplains why strigi doesn't work15:54
JontheEchidnaheh15:54
Riddellit should use KDE_DEFAULT_HOME from cmake15:54
JontheEchidnaI'll work on this one15:55
JontheEchidnaI've always wanted to help upstream :]15:56
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rgreeningRiddell: do we care about the Priority field in control files?16:02
Riddellrgreening: should always be optional16:03
Riddelldoubt we have anything essential in KDE16:03
rgreeningok. kdegames had extra and debina had it optional16:04
Riddellfollow debian16:04
rgreeningk16:04
JontheEchidnaactually it only uses .kde4 as a fallback path if QString kdeHome = getenv( "KDEHOME" ); is empty16:25
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aparedesRiddell: I have updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu to include Intrepid16:30
Riddellaparedes: you rock!16:30
aparedesanything else i can help out with?16:31
rgreeninggood job aparedes16:32
rgreening:)16:32
Riddellaparedes: if that interested you I'm sure there's more kubuntu pages on that wiki which need updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=kubuntu&titlesearch=Titles16:32
Riddellaparedes: or we can find something else16:32
rgreening\o/16:33
aparedesRiddell: well if there is something else, i would like to try it out. if not im glad to help with the wiki16:38
rgreeningwiki is definately in bad need of updates.16:40
rgreeningaparedes: what coding lang are you working with or comfortable with?16:40
Riddelllots to be merged if packaging seems interesting16:41
aparedesmostly c. but i also work with java and c++16:41
davmor2Riddell: dragon player if you insert a dvd and select play media>from disc should it not throw up a warning that it can't play it as it's encrypted?16:46
Riddelldavmor2: we don't have any patches for that currently, but it should be something to aim for in jaunty16:47
davmor2Riddell: Okay I'll add it to the test docs then as these will be the ones for jaunty :)16:48
aparedesRiddell: packing does seem very intresting. what should i do or where should i start?16:48
Riddellaparedes: this is a good question, rgreening where did you start with learning packaging?16:49
rgreeningAsking lots of questions and reading the Packaging wiki entry... one sec I'll dig it up16:51
seeleanyone know if system settings changed at all in 4.1.3?16:51
rgreeningaparedes: start by reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete16:52
Riddellseele: looks the same to me16:52
rgreeningaparedes: once you have read though it, come let me know. You need to setup your build environment and I'll help you get that all straightened up.16:53
* rgreening puts on hit tudor hat16:54
seeleRiddell: ok thanks16:54
seeleoh16:54
seeleRiddell: the powerdevil stuff didnt change?16:54
aparedesrgreening: thanks, ill get back to you as soon as i am done16:54
rgreeningnp16:55
Riddellseele: that would be up to powerdevil, it's module isn't part of system settings itself16:56
seeleah, i thought they made a module for it.. ok16:56
glade88JontheEchidna: who proposed the idea that kde4 panel could be dragged and re-positioned anywhere using the panel toolbar?16:57
* JontheEchidna shrugs16:58
glade88hm.. ohhk16:58
JontheEchidnathey're going to put a more obvious button on it for dragging in 4.216:58
Riddellseele: yes I believe they have, but the source is powerdevil (which I don't have installed)16:59
* glade88 waits eagerly for 4.2 :)16:59
jussi01is 4.1.3 around yet for testing?17:00
Riddelljussi01: yes in backports17:01
jussi01Riddell: if have backport enabled will it update automatically? or do I need to specifically install it?17:02
Riddelljussi01: you would need to install updates as usual17:02
jussi01Riddell: but I dont specifically need to apt-get install something17:03
jussi01oh meh, ive updated without even knowing :D17:04
stdinRiddell: should I give you a debdiff merging changes from bug #290589 to 4.1.3 in -backports? or do you want to wait17:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290589 in kde4libs "Long dbus command displayed on dialog when trying to mount hard drive via dolphin" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29058917:05
Riddellstdin: yeah can do17:15
stdinRiddell: do you think I should have it close the bug in the changelog, or just reference it?17:16
Riddellstdin: close in the changelog is easier17:18
Riddellstdin: but what about jaunty?17:19
RiddellI'm doing kde4libs now17:19
txwikingerIs the jaunty environment already there?17:21
Riddelltxwikinger: jaunty exists, I wouldn't recommend upgrading to it17:22
txwikinger:D17:22
txwikingercertainly not until in 2 weeks when I might have my test machine up again :D17:22
stdinRiddell: http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kde4libs_4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid2.diff17:23
Nightrosejussi01: jussio1: can I somehow pribe you to make new quassel packages from trunk for intrepid? that would make me _very_ happy17:27
jussi01Nightrose: how soon do you want them?17:29
Nightrosewhenever you have time17:29
Nightrosesooner = better of course ;-)17:29
jussi01Nightrose: Ill be travelling for the next week or so, but after that, quite likely :D17:29
Nightroseok maybe i need to pribe apachelogger then17:29
Nightroseapachelogger: honey can I have new quassel packages? :)17:30
jussi01Nightrose: its "bribe" ;)17:30
Nightroseah17:30
Nightrosethx17:30
jussi01Nightrose: the current packaging should work just fine with the new source, so you could just update the source...17:31
Nightrosewould take me too long considering I should be studying :/17:32
* jussi01 huggle Nightrose17:34
Nightrose:)17:35
rgreeningRiddell: bug 294780 - merge needs review/upload. This is the 4.1.2 (ubuntu) to 4.1.3 (debian). Hopefully I did it the way you wanted.17:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294780 in kdegames "kdegames 4.1.2: new changes from Debian (4.1.3) require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29478017:35
JontheEchidnaRiddell: bug 294781 please, once you find the time :P17:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294781 in kdepimlibs "kdepimlibs 4.1.2: New changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29478117:38
Riddellstdin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68450/17:51
Riddelldunno if that's your doing or mine17:52
stdindamn, missing comma in my diff17:52
stdinRiddell: ok, fixed the patch17:53
Riddellthree missing commas17:54
stdinoh yeah, me being stupid17:55
seelehmm.. i thought Nepomuk was changed to Semantic Desktop17:55
seelei think in KDE SVN Sound is Multimedia as well17:55
stdinok, added the commas after "QObject* obj, const char* slot" and both "SLOT(slotProcessFinished(int, QProcess::ExitStatus))"17:56
Riddellseele: changes were made in SVN, no translated strings for anywhere else so couldn't be changed17:56
ScottKAbout apturl: [12:56] <mvo_> ScottK: it should be really easy now to write a qt frontend by just filling in the (few) needed UI functions17:57
seelehmm17:57
ScottKSomeone really ought to do that ^^^17:57
ScottKrgreening: RE firefox ^^17:57
rgreeningScottK: yeah. me and mvo are discussing this.17:58
ScottKExcellent.17:58
ScottKrgreening: Please make sure this work is reflected on the Jaunty Specs page somewhere.17:59
rgreeningk17:59
rgreeningScottK: done18:03
Riddellrgreening: it would also be good to have it itegrated with konqueror18:03
ScottKrgreening: Great.18:04
seeleis it just me or do other people do a face palm when they see the login manager ui?18:07
rgreeningRiddell: sure I'll add a note about that too...18:07
Riddellseele: it has missing features but the UI seems ok to use18:08
seelewhy are there numbers in the tabs?18:08
seelenevermind.. i know the answer18:08
seelethere was a long thread on the kde-usability mailing list18:08
seelethe keyboard config stuff seems to be what most people complain about though18:09
seeleit's scattered amongst 3 or 4 sections18:09
seelemultimedia stuff too18:10
aparedesrgreening: i have read the buildpackage wiki, and did some examples. do you any tips you can give me?18:13
rgreeningaparedes: do you have the pbuilder, etc. all setup?18:14
aparedesyes and also i have done the pbuilder --create18:15
jussi01Nightrose: I had a play around, but there are a few issues - some patches dont apply, so I gave up for now. sorry. got to go pack for my big trip.18:15
rgreeningaparedes: you will need a launchpad account as well. if you do not, then go set that up now.18:15
Nightrosejussi01: thx :) - no problem18:16
Nightroseand have fun with whatever you are going to do18:16
aparedesrgreening: i already have one18:16
jussi01Nightrose: UK, then Australia :D and I will :D18:17
Nightrosejussi01: hehe sounds fun :)18:17
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I assume we're not build-deping on libglib in kdebase to avoid gtk dependencies?18:17
Nightrosetake pictures!18:17
rgreeningaparedes: good. and signed the code of conduct and have a gpg key setup for sogning?18:17
rgreenings/sogning/signing18:17
jussi01Nightrose: I will :D - you can keep up to date here if you are interested :D http://lifematta.com/jussi01/photos/18:18
Nightrosethx - will try18:18
JontheEchidnaRiddell: oh, nvm, that was added by debian after our last merge. I don't think that'd pull in gtk anyway18:19
aparedesrgreening: i have done that already18:28
rgreeningaparedes: I don't see your key on your launchpad page (https://launchpad.net/~aparedes)18:28
rgreeningaparedes: you will need launchpad setup with your key and sign the code of conduct (to be a ubuntero) to upload and to sign packages18:30
rgreeningaparedes: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct18:31
rgreeninghttps://launchpad.net/~aparedes/+editpgpkeys18:32
rgreeningaparedes: have you joined kubuntu users team? If not, you should18:34
claydohapachelogger: updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto18:36
claydohnow to update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu18:36
claydohbut that may be a while I am leaving town for the weekend18:36
rgreeningclaydoh... done earlier by aparedes (I believe)18:38
rgreening\o/18:38
aparedeshttps://launchpad.net/~alejandroparedes aparedes was taken18:40
claydohrgreening: sweet and aparedes thanks :)18:40
rgreeningaparedes: ah... my mistake. lol18:40
rgreeningaparedes: ok... let me have a quick look...18:40
JontheEchidnaRiddell: bug 29479818:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294798 in kdebase "kdebase 4.1.2: New changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29479818:40
aparedesrgreening: how can i do a clearsign with an specific gpg key?18:41
rgreeningaparedes: in what context?18:41
aparedesrgreening: i have several gpg keys and for the code of conduct i have to sign it with one in specific how can this be done18:42
rgreeningaparedes: hmmm... should be based on the e-mail address you use I think, or from the command line you can specify the key18:43
* JontheEchidna is feeling ambitious... gonna take on the kdebase-workspace merge18:43
rgreeningaparedes: I only have one key. maybe JontheEchidna or someone can answer...18:45
JontheEchidnanope, I am not elite with the gpg18:46
rgreeningapachelogger or Riddell maybe then... ^18:46
aparedesrgreening: i have found out how to do it. now i only have to sign into kubuntu users teams18:46
rgreeningok. cool. share how you did it for the rest of the class :)18:47
rgreening^ aparedes (re the gpg signing)18:47
aparedesgpg -u user id --clearsign18:48
rgreeningty :)18:48
JontheEchidnaLooking at the debian changelog I can already tell this will be a fun merge :x18:49
rgreeningRiddell: bug 294780 merge kdegames ready now (when you have time).18:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294780 in kdegames "kdegames 4.1.2: new changes from Debian (4.1.3) require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29478018:53
rgreeningaparedes: I'll do up an e-mail and forward to you. It's a lot to type here... it should be enough to get you started though.19:01
aparedesrgreening: thanks19:01
rgreeningnp19:01
rgreeningaparedes: have you gotten pbuilder-hooks?19:02
rgreeningit's a add-on for pbuilder.19:02
aparedesrgreening: no i havent. ill look for it19:03
rgreeningaparedes: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks (you need bzr installed, and then download the hooks with bzr. Read the readme file to figure out how to set it up.19:05
rgreeningaparedes: See this for additional setup for ~/.pbuilderrc with ~/.pbuilder-hooks  http://paste.ubuntu.com/68508/19:09
rgreeningJontheEchidna is gone nutz with the merging :) Just a bad as I was with the 4.1.3 update.. hahah19:14
JontheEchidnalol19:14
JontheEchidnakdebase-workspace will take quite a while19:14
JontheEchidnawe should have merged sooner, lol19:15
rgreeningheeh19:17
rgreeningIt's taken me a while a) first time b) differing opinions/instructions and c) many fubars on my part...19:18
rgreeningbut now I have 3 done and the instructions with which I am comfortable to use... :)19:19
aparedesrgreening: i have setup the pbuilder-hooks19:21
rgreeningaparedes: excellent. So I just have to send you that e-mail on the merge process...19:22
aparedesrgreening: good. thanks19:23
rgreeningit'll take me a little bit to type out... bare with me19:23
rgreening:)19:23
DaSkreechWHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE19:41
DaSkreechCreative Open sourced the drivers!!!!19:42
supert0nesis vim mode in kate coming back before 4.2?19:42
DaSkreechIt's in there now19:43
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DaSkreechhttp://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=13228819:44
rgreeningaparedes: still around? I'm almost done. It's a lot to type :)19:47
aparedesrgreening: im still here19:54
rgreeningk. almost done aparedes19:54
rakeknivenCan I ask a packaging question here?20:04
rgreeningrakekniven: sure, I'll see if I can answer20:11
rakeknivenfound it out in the meanwhile20:13
rakekniventhx20:13
ArbyRiddell: if you've got time I've got a couple more patches for s-c-p-kde.20:16
rgreeningaparedes: e-mail sent20:17
rgreeninglet me know when you get it20:17
rgreeningaparedes: ^20:17
aparedesrgreening: i got the email. ill check it out20:18
rgreeningk. It's rather long... :)20:19
rgreeningmy fingers hurt now20:19
rgreening:)20:19
seeleapachelogger: is there neon for intrepid?21:02
rgreeningseele: Yes, I believe so...21:04
rgreeningPretty sure I tested that the other day21:05
supert0neskdebase hasn't compiled for a couple weeks tho because of failures21:13
supert0nesin nightly21:13
* seele sends cookies to apachelogger 21:34
JontheEchidnaubottu: tell me about debian bug 49442721:37
ubottuDebian bug 494427 in kdebase-workspace "plasma: emptying trash from the trash plasmoid does not notify about trash" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/49442721:37
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:37
* JontheEchidna wonders how our current packages work :S21:40
JontheEchidnaoh, nvm I have way old packaging for base-workspace21:41
JontheEchidnammf, undocumented patches that we have that Debian does't are fun21:44
JontheEchidnaRiddell, would it be wise to remove the python-plasma patch from workspace? That makes the diff extremely large22:48
JontheEchidnaWe could also remove the plasma-tooltips one while we're at it since it'll be implemented upstream next release22:49
RiddellJontheEchidna: wouldn't we just have to put those packages back in?22:50
JontheEchidnaRiddell: in kde4libs22:51
JontheEchidnaoh, maybe not22:51
JontheEchidnanevermind22:51
JontheEchidnadisregard me22:51
JontheEchidnaI'll remove the tooltips one though22:51
JontheEchidnaRiddell: kubuntu_15_kickoff_ksmserver_logout.diff was applied upstream too, correct?23:10
seelehmm.. it looks like im going to have to cancel the ubuntu usability testing activity.  there's just no interest from the loco23:11
RiddellJontheEchidna: yeah that can go23:15
Riddellseele: find a more general group to take part, got a local LUG?23:15
seeleRiddell: 2 locos and multiple lugs were recruited.. no interest23:16
seeleit's not even testing for kubuntu.. so if the loco's aren't interested in helping me recruit then the project can just die23:17
Riddellseems like just the sort of practical contribution they should be up for23:17
seelethe point was to get the loco's involved, not to give me a second job23:17
seeleRiddell: it was the idea of loco members to begin with! they just lost interest i guess23:19
* seele will make a cake. cake makes everything better!23:21
RiddellI made an apple pie earlier, worked well23:21
rgreeningI just made a boiler of beef stew23:22
rgreening:)23:22
rgreeningwe can have a potluck23:22
rgreeninglol23:22
* JontheEchidna can bring apple pie icecream23:22
* Nightrose will bring tomato salad23:22
rgreeningmmm....23:23
seelemmm.. tomatoes23:23
seelei got an oatmeal cake mix and i'm going to try mixing pumpkin in it to make a pumpkin cake23:24
seeledunno if it is going to work.  but as long as it cooks all the way through and doesnt burn, it cant end up too bad23:24
rgreeninglol23:24
JontheEchidna*whew*23:26
JontheEchidnabug 29491223:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294912 in kdebase-workspace "kdebase-workspace 4.1.2: New changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29491223:26
* JontheEchidna dies23:26
rgreeningbwahahahaha23:26
* Nightrose revives JontheEchidna23:26
rgreeningglad you took that one23:26
Nightrosecan't lose you!23:26
JontheEchidnaI figure if I can get that one done properly I can get any merge done properly23:27
rgreeningI had a bad enough time with Qt when I merged it a while back.... I bet that made it easy for Riddell this time round :)23:27
* rgreening wished he coukd quit his current job and do this F/T23:28
Nightrosergreening: check out cannonicals jobs page and apply ;-)23:31
rgreeningNightrose: I had a while back, but that was before I got my feet wet here... prob a good time to re-look at it.23:32
Nightrosejep23:33
JontheEchidnaI think they're looking for somebody with 1337 C++ skills to work on upstream23:34
Nightrosethey are looking for other stuff as well23:34
* Nightrose hopes her bf gets that upstream kde job ;-)23:34
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seeleugh.. ate too much cheese23:59

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