[00:08] <stdin> genii: try "@hostmask add" (as genii not genii-around)
[00:08] <stdin> that should teach the bot your hostmask
[00:19] <genii> stdin: They are currently on 2 different connections, will this matter?
[00:20] <stdin> no as long as the hostmask (cloak) is the same
[00:20] <genii> OK
[00:20] <genii> @hostmask add
[00:20] <genii> Hm
[00:20] <genii-around> @login
[00:20] <stdin> see if @whoami works
[00:20] <stdin> ignore @login for now
[00:21] <genii-around> @qhoami
[00:21] <genii-around> bleh
[00:21] <genii-around> @whoami
[00:21] <genii-around> Nope
[00:22] <stdin> ahh, I see what is is...
[00:22] <genii> That genii-around is the primary?
[00:22] <stdin> genii: do '@hostmask add genii *!*@unaffiliated/genii'
[00:22] <stdin> it was using the full mask
[00:23] <genii> stdin: With the primary name ( -around) or with this one?
[00:23] <stdin> that one ^
[00:23] <stdin> as "genii" is who you are to the bot
[00:23] <stdin> it couldn't care less about what nickserv thinks
[00:23] <genii> @hostmask add genii *!*@unaffiliated/genii
[00:23] <genii> Hm
[00:24] <stdin> now @whoami again
[00:24] <genii-around> @whoami
[00:24] <stdin> there you go, as long as you get your cloak it'll know who you are
[00:24] <genii-around> Cool
[00:25]  * genii-around feeds stdin a hot beverage of his choice
[00:25]  * stdin looks at the clock and chooses hot chocolate
[00:25] <genii-around> :)
[01:16] <mneptok> @whoibe
[01:18] <stdin> sorry, ubottu does not understand lol-speak ;)
[01:24] <mneptok> @whatiamiswhatiam
[01:24] <mneptok> apparently not an Edie Brickell fan, either
[03:45] <genii> @login
[03:45]  * genii sips
[03:45] <mneptok> callin' out, in transit. callin' out, in transit.
[03:45] <mneptok> RADIO FREE EUROPE!
[03:46] <genii> mneptok: Will I need a shortwave radio for that?
[03:47] <mneptok> genii: nope, just REM's first album :)
[03:47] <genii> Ah, OK :)
[03:48] <mneptok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA57Pafq_NU
[03:49]  * genii rocks out
[04:07] <genii> I'm waiting now for some new arrival in #ubuntu to run one of the sample forkbombs
[04:11] <Flannel> which samples?
[04:13] <genii> [23:02:18] <Atomic_UE> curious....could someone explain to me what this command actually does?    :(){ :|:& };:
[04:14] <genii> There may have been another one given a bit later
[04:15]  * genii puts on more coffee
[04:25] <mneptok> __mikem: what's up?
[04:25] <__mikem> Can you please actually inforce the no politics rules in #ubuntu-offtopic in a bi-partison manner. riotkittie gets to talk about politics till the cows come how
[04:26] <__mikem> but god forbid I bring up my conservative views, suddenly everybody decides to enforce the rules
[04:27] <mneptok> __mikem: i hardly think it's a matter of what views you hold.
[04:27] <__mikem> mneptok: it sure seems like it. the point is riotkittie trolls me and he gets away with it
[04:27] <Flannel> __mikem: Generally its only a matter of whos watching
[04:27] <mneptok> __mikem: you can see a conspiracy anywhere if you decide you're looking for one.
[04:28] <__mikem> mneptok: well even if its just a matter of who is watching, I am getting the short end of the stick
[04:28] <__mikem> consistently
[04:30] <__mikem> mneptok: thanks :)
[04:31] <mneptok> when i'm the voice of reason, something is very, very wrong.
[04:38] <jrib> well it's usually the case that something is very, very wrong
[04:38] <mneptok> my underpants agree
[04:43] <genii-around> Bah
[04:43] <genii-around> What is the last thing received from my other nick?
[04:44] <mneptok> 23:14  * genii puts on more coffee
[04:44] <genii-around> Bah
[04:45] <genii-around> jussi01: Quassel kicked me
[05:05]  * genii sips
[05:20] <Flannel> Hi hunk_, how can we help you?
[05:21] <hunk_> nothing , thanks only look :)
[05:21] <hunk_> (sorry for my bad eng)
[05:22] <Flannel> hunk_: Please don't idle here.
[05:23] <hunk_> ahhh
[05:23] <hunk_> 0k
[05:23] <hunk_> bye :)
[05:23] <Flannel> Bye
[05:25]  * genii sips
[05:55] <genii-around> Goodnite all
[07:42] <jussi01> Morning all
[09:28] <ikonia> morning
[09:32]  * Myrtti contemplates coffee
[09:33] <Myrtti> 12hrs of sleep...
[09:33] <ikonia> nice
[09:35] <Myrtti> was lacking some
[09:35] <Myrtti> not used to having someone sleeping with, and snore.
[09:36] <ikonia> I am at the moment
[09:36] <ikonia> oh dear
[09:36] <Myrtti> now I have to get used to sleeping alone again :-<
[09:37] <ikonia> but no snoring
[09:37] <Myrtti> mmm
[09:37] <Myrtti> I wouldn't mind it...
[09:55]  * jussi01 had like 14 h last night :D
[09:56] <elkbuntu> i hate you both :(
[10:01] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: I'm back to 5 tomorrow, if signs are right
[10:22]  * PriceChild goes travelling for a few days
[10:26] <Myrtti> ooooh, musclespasm
[10:33] <elkbuntu> http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/6/128704411750447087.jpg
[10:34] <elkbuntu> actually http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=2502755
[10:35] <Myrtti> bwurp
[10:35] <Myrtti> lovely breakfast.
[10:35] <Myrtti> crêpes with chili filled with mince-rice-barley-cheddar mixture
[10:36] <Myrtti> breakfast dessert: french roast coffee and vanilla ice cream with cranberries and caramel sauce.
[10:37] <Dave2> A bowl of oatibix is almost as nice. I'm sure. Or something.
[10:55] <ikonia> heads up on bruteforce back in #ubuntu
[11:25] <ikonia> @bansearch sexygirl
[11:32] <Myrtti> hmmm
[11:32] <Myrtti> @bansearch kiosk
[11:32] <Myrtti> @bansearch *!*kiosk*
[11:33] <Myrtti> I'm sure kiosk ident has been banned
[11:33] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[11:34] <Myrtti> kiosk_!n=kiosk@125.164.202.58
[11:34] <elkbuntu> amazingly similar
[11:34] <Myrtti> kiosk!n=kiosk@125.164.213.225
[11:34] <Myrtti> that has been kicked
[11:35] <Myrtti> 2008-09-19T09:59:00 *** kiosk (kiosk!n=kiosk@125.164.213.225) has left #ubuntu (requested by Flannel: "you should know better") 
[11:37] <ikonia> @backsearch drtroll
[11:37] <ikonia> @bansearch drtroll
[11:37] <ikonia> I've seen that host before
[11:37] <ikonia> Myrtti kiosk looks familer too hence the search
[11:38] <Myrtti> yup
[12:02] <ikonia> @bancsearch *!*@59.183.113.110
[12:02] <ikonia> @bacsearch *!*@59.183.113.110
[12:02] <ikonia> @bansearch *!*@59.183.113.110
[12:02] <ikonia> @bansearch fcuk
[12:02] <ikonia> @bansearch dd
[12:03] <ikonia> @bansearch Chooth
[12:04] <ikonia> @bansearch shreedha
[12:16] <ikonia> @btlogin
[12:43] <ikonia> check it out, dbo's active, not seen him for an age
[13:07] <Myrtti> stdin: why is ubottu answering twice to @now
[13:07] <Myrtti> @now
[13:12] <Pici> Pelo should know better...
[13:14] <ikonia> what's with pelos attitude ?
[13:16] <Mez> ikonia: fail...
[13:16] <ikonia> ?
[13:17] <Mez> the bancsearch's
[13:17] <ikonia> Mez: yes, they did
[13:17] <ikonia> as did my fingers
[13:18] <jrib> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/ has some good info now.  Worth checking out to troubleshoot X issues
[13:34] <ikonia> jussi01: you still on track for next week 
[13:36] <ikonia> he's ranting in vbox now
[13:37] <Pici> jrib: thanks, I updated the fixres factoid with the new layout for the xorg wiki pages
[13:37] <Pici> x
[13:37] <Pici> !x
[13:39] <LjL> i'm getting lots of highlights
[13:39] <ikonia> where ?
[13:41] <LjL> mostly sudobash in #ubuntu, but some other joiners highlighted me on join
[13:42] <LjL> then pivot.net but i guess that doesn't mean much
[13:45] <ikonia> LjL: I can't see you r name being mentioned in #ubuntu at all
[13:45] <LjL> ikonia: err no of course it isn't
[13:45] <Pici> ikonia: LjL has an enourmous list of things to be hilighted on.
[13:45] <ikonia> duhhh
[13:45] <ikonia> sorry, being dumb
[13:46] <LjL> sudobash is definitely there
[13:46] <Pici> Hes behaving though, for the moment.
[13:46] <ikonia> is he known ?
[13:46] <LjL> as long as he doesn't start threatening to DoS someone
[13:47] <Pici> Or give horribly bad advice.
[14:02] <stdin> @now
[14:02] <stdin> Myrtti: fixed
[14:02] <Myrtti> thx
[14:02] <Myrtti> what was the cause?
[14:02] <stdin> a missing '.' :p
[14:02] <Pici> stdin: What was causing it? ... took the words out of my...mouth? Fingers?
[14:03] <stdin> it would only repeat if you're identified to the bot
[14:04] <stdin> the part that checks if you're identified basically always came back as false, it called the command, then supybot itself called the command
[14:09] <Myrtti> haha
[14:09] <Myrtti> lolz
[14:22] <ikonia> jack's in !
[14:25] <Myrtti> hide! hide!
[14:30] <Mez> Run to the hills!
[14:31] <Pici> The Hills are Alive!
[14:33] <Myrtti> WITH THE SOUND OF MUUUUUSIIIIC
[14:33] <Pici> AAIIEEE
[14:34] <Pici> :)
[14:37]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee
[14:39] <genii> Good morning, afternoon, or evening
[14:39] <genii> Myrtti: Moin   ;)
[14:40] <Myrtti> genii: moin
[14:50] <ikonia> @bansearch *!*@81.178.210.42
[15:30] <jussi01> ikonia: yep, Ill be there - still figuring out whether to stop in birmingham for a few hours, but we will see.
[15:30] <ikonia> just checking
[15:31] <jussi01> :D
[15:31] <jussi01> ikonia: Im still bitchin about spurs on the weekend...
[15:32] <ikonia> can't be helped
[15:32] <ikonia> I'm dissapointed too
[15:32] <jussi01> yep
[15:32] <ikonia> that was almost too well scripted
[15:33] <jussi01> hehehe
[15:33] <jussi01> Im packing atm, I leave in the morning
[15:34] <ikonia> and it's the 12th your turning up on 
[15:34] <ikonia> or the 10th
[15:34] <ikonia> until the 12
[15:34] <ikonia> (not got my notes
[15:40] <Myrtti> intresting. My wireless just died
[15:40] <Myrtti> but I can still access my home server
[15:41] <ikonia> magic
[15:43] <Dave2> perhapos you have invisible wires
[15:43] <Myrtti> this is about as funny as...
[15:43] <Myrtti> hmmm
[15:43] <Myrtti> no, can't think of anything
[15:44] <genii> Mybe it's just the DNS that died
[15:45] <Myrtti> genii: how little you think of me
[15:45] <Myrtti> "iwlist wlan0 scanning" doesn't return my routers access points.
[15:46]  * Myrtti rolls her eyes
[15:46] <ikonia> is your router invisible so scan won't show it
[15:47]  * Pici rolls Myrtti's eyes back to her
[15:47] <ikonia> does iwconfig show the card connected ?
[15:47] <Myrtti> no it's not invisible
[15:47]  * ikonia throws that theory out the window
[15:47] <Myrtti> and iwconfig of course shows it, otherwise it wouldn'tbe able to scan, would it?
[15:47] <Myrtti> or in other words:
[15:48] <Myrtti> THIS THING WORKED 10 MINUTES AGO AND SOMETHING WENT WRONG!!!!11
[15:48] <ikonia> Myrtti I meant does it have the ESSID associated and show a connected status
[15:56] <genii> Myrtti: I think the world of you :) 
[15:57]  * Myrtti smiles
[15:57] <Myrtti> good old reboot did the trick
[16:03] <genii> Anyone gonna boot the #ubuntu troll ?
[16:03] <Myrtti> which one
[16:03] <genii> Or warn at least
 kan c kon me quicked
[16:04] <genii> Sorry the whole message. Quassel idiosyncrasy for copy, etc
[16:05] <genii> He speaks English fine, just being an ass :)
[16:06] <genii> Thanks ikonia
[16:06] <ikonia> no problem
[16:09]  * Myrtti takes few steps back from #ubuntu
[16:11] <Myrtti> oh dear god
[16:11] <Myrtti> have people always been that unpatient and ... dense?
[16:11] <Pici> yahoo msn!
[16:11] <ikonia> I'm using google skype
[16:11] <ikonia> with my spacebook
[16:12] <Pici> "What browser are you using?" "I'm using the google, so naturally Internet Explorer"
[16:12] <Myrtti> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGGGHH
[16:13] <Pici> !prayer
[16:13] <Myrtti> the idiocy... I can feel my brain mushing up and dripping down from my ear
[16:13] <genii> Yup
[16:13] <genii> Momma said there'd be days like this
[16:16] <ikonia> genii: thats a line from a song ?
[16:17] <genii> ikonia: Maybe 
[16:17] <ikonia> which song? 
[16:17] <ikonia> I know it
[16:18] <ikonia> but can't think
[16:19] <genii> "Momma Said" - The Shirelles
[16:19] <ikonia> maybe, not what I was thinking though
[16:19] <ikonia> lenny kravitz, momma said, thats what I was thinking
[16:20] <genii> Morrison had one with similar lyrics as well
[16:21]  * genii hums "Momma Told me Not to Come" by 3 Dog Night instead
[16:21] <genii> ;)
[16:22] <Myrtti> I'll strangle that noksious over ethernet soon
[16:23] <Pici> I don't remember seeing an RFC for that one
[16:23] <ikonia> he's not go long left
[16:24] <Myrtti> "I have a problem"
[16:24] <Myrtti> "OH REALLY?!"
[16:25] <Myrtti> "LET ME TELL YOU THE WAYS OF PROBLEMS, MY FRIEND!"
[16:25]  * Myrtti facepalms
[16:25] <Myrtti> ;_____;
[16:25] <Myrtti> aaaarrggghhghghghghg
[16:32] <genii> He likely installed it from some tarball
[16:32] <Pici> Where?
[16:35] <genii> noksious (sp?) and his Empathy issue
[16:35] <Myrtti> I hope he doesn't come back.
[16:36] <Myrtti> I'm sorry, but I do.
[16:54] <genii> Bizarre.    <Anatoliy> Go all in ass, fat creature!
[16:54] <bazhang> one goon?
[16:54] <genii> Is it a full moon today?
[16:54] <bazhang> haha
[16:54] <genii> bazhang: Yes, exactly
[16:54] <Myrtti> he is gone soon
[16:56] <jussi01> hrm, What welse might I have forgotten for my trip...
[16:56] <jussi01> what else*
[17:03] <genii> jussi01: mp3 player ?
[17:03] <jussi01> genii: check!
[17:04] <genii> extra Ubuntu CDs to hand out and promote? ;)
[17:04] <jussi01> hrm, got none atm...
[17:05]  * genii sips
[17:05] <jussi01> I know there is something Ive forgotten...
[17:06] <genii> Just remember your passport
[17:07] <jussi01> got that :D
[17:07] <jussi01> thankfully I live only like 5k from the airport
[17:07] <Myrtti> 5km's, dear.
[17:08] <jussi01> Myrtti: shut up
[17:08] <jussi01> :D
[17:08] <jussi01> and come on skype
[17:08] <jussi01> :D
[17:08]  * Myrtti grunts, gets a microphone
[17:18]  * Myrtti pokes jussi01 
[18:11] <jussi01> PriceChild: you around?
[18:59] <genii> Can I suggest a factoid change for !spanish    ?
[18:59] <Pici> suggest away
[19:00] <genii> To mention #ubuntu-ve (Venezuela) #ubuntu-mx (Mexico) #ubuntu-cu (Cuba) #ubuntu-br (Brazil)
[19:01] <Pici> Brazil is not spanish though
[19:02] <genii> Fair enough, but you get the idea :)
[19:03] <Pici> !es
[19:03] <genii> Pici: !es can stay since it's Spain's tld which is correct for the factoid context
[19:04] <Pici> But es is also espanol
[19:04] <genii> !ca
[19:04]  * genii sips
[19:04] <genii> !en
[19:05] <Pici> !br
[19:09] <genii> There is also puerto rico , dominican republic, belize, costa rica, guatemala,argentina, bolivia, and other countries which speak spanish
[19:09] <genii> At least a couple of those have channels here
[19:16] <genii> Pici: Maybe at least something which refrences the complete channel list as the !en does
[19:17] <LjL> no please
[19:17] <LjL> several of the spanish channels, i think, have agreed to use #ubuntu-es for support
[19:18] <LjL> i suspect a few of them wouldn't even *want* to use their loco channel for support, they want it as a loco channel period
[19:18] <genii> LjL: Ah, OK. This I was not aware of
[19:18] <LjL> it's not like there are hundreds of spanish-speaking supporters, there's few enough of them in *one* channel
[19:18] <LjL> if someone is looking for mexicans or the mexican loco team, then by all means use !mx but if they're looking for support, -es is the preferred place
[19:20] <genii> LjL: A few times I've had indignant Spanish-speakers people from south american countries point out to me they were *not* from spain when the !es is used  :)
[19:21] <genii> Since then I attempted to point them to their local channel where possible, but if these are only being ised as loco channels and not support then status quo I suppose
[19:21] <LjL> genii: should have asked them where exactly does it say in the factoid that the channel is only for spaniards
[19:22] <LjL> genii: and i'd personally much rather have language-specific support channels separate from loco channels
[19:22] <genii> LjL: I think the confusion comes from the TLD for spain being also .es 
[19:22] <LjL> genii: but that'd require a complete overhaul of things and a lot of problems
[19:23] <LjL> genii: yes, as a matter of fact #ubuntu-es *is*, nominally, the Spanish loco's team channel
[19:23] <LjL> genii: but ironically they have #ubuntu-es-loco for actual loco stuff
[19:24] <LjL> genii: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Coordination the part where it talks about loco channels
[19:24] <Myrtti> -fi is for finnish support
[19:24] <LjL> Myrtti, it's easy with finnish because finland is the only country that speaks finnish
[19:25] <Myrtti> -fi-tiimit is for the active people in the loco for ... hold on
[19:25] <Myrtti> thought broke
[19:25] <Myrtti> scheduling events etc.
[19:25] <LjL> yes, the loco channel
[19:25] <genii> Interesting
[19:26] <Myrtti> -fi-offtopic for idle chatter etc
[19:26] <LjL> problem is, at least one of the problems - if several countries speak the same language, which loco channel provides support?
[19:26] <LjL> even if loco channels and support channels were more clearly separated systematically, that problem would remain
[19:26] <Myrtti> es for support
[19:27] <Myrtti> es_ES for the Spanish loco ;-)
[19:27] <Myrtti> j/k
[19:27] <LjL> genii: that document was mostly written by me and basically it codifies what was already there. i thought it might give an idea how delicate this can be
[19:27] <LjL> Myrtti, or #ubuntu-spanish for support. that's what #ubuntu-arabic has done (still, i don't just *love* that, because you have to use cumbersome english names)
[19:28] <LjL> but still, who *manages* the support channel, no matter what it's called?
[19:28] <LjL> and just scattering support among N different loco channels is, well, a terrible solution. imnsho.
[19:32]  * genii sips his coffee and ruminates on the dilemma
[19:32] <Myrtti> rhum?
[19:32] <Myrtti> where?
[19:33] <genii> Hehe
[19:33] <genii> Myrtti: I thought you were the cider crowd ;)
[19:34] <Myrtti> rhum with lime juice is nom
[19:35] <jussi01> Nini everyone, Im off travelling, so probably wont check in for a few days
[19:35] <Myrtti> tata dearie
[19:35] <Myrtti> take care
[19:35] <jussi01> thanks, I will
[19:36] <genii> jussi01: Safe travels
[19:37] <jussi01> thanks
[23:05] <LjL> mneptok: anyway, a general linux compatibility db would be cool for sure, but also very ambitious a project. i was thinking more in terms of just ubuntu, because if you're confined to ubuntu, you can do something like pop up a window after two weeks the user's been running Ubuntu and ask "so, now if you've got time for a survey, we'd like you to rate your hardware compatibility so it other users can draw from that"
[23:06] <LjL> again wikis are nice but you need to actually know about them, know how to use them and remember to go write something about your hardware on them
[23:06] <LjL> what percentage of users does that?
[23:08] <Flannel> Well, we have the hardware ... compatability program whatever in admin, right?  or whereever it is now.
[23:08] <Flannel> Cant we just add to that a comments section?
[23:08] <LjL> Flannel: yes, it's very limited though
[23:08] <LjL> there are comments already
[23:08]  * Flannel has no idea if there already is a comments section.
[23:09] <Flannel> LjL: So, cant we just expand that to get actual feedback? and then grep those feedbacks?
[23:09] <LjL> yes, expanding that program is what i'm thinking about
[23:09] <LjL> i think it ideally needs to be as comprehensive as the !hardware wiki in scope
[23:10] <LjL> of course that's not easy to achieve (and may actually be counter-productive if done wrongly, since a user will never want to answer 256 questions about their hardware... i wonder how many answer that half-a-dozen there is)
[23:10] <Flannel> LjL: I agree, except we can get their hardware information from lspci, etc.  So, I mean, you could even have it prompt them (with radio buttons for canned responses): "How well does your video driver work?"  "How do you like your sound?"
[23:10] <LjL> indeed
[23:10] <Seeker`> but thats subjective
[23:11] <LjL> although care needs to be taken to avoid nagscreens
[23:11] <Flannel> LjL: its voluntary, if we make the program work better for us (more info), and then start a campaign to get people to do it...
[23:11] <LjL> Seeker`: many subjective ratings make up a survey, surveys are useful
[23:11] <Seeker`> "my video card works great" and "issues with applications x,y,z, no compiz" could come from the same computer
[23:11] <LjL> nothing wrong with that
[23:11] <Flannel> Seeker`: You can have radio buttons for people to not have to type lots (since for a good deal of them, I imagine it'd be "I haven't noticed" or "I dont know") and then they can comment more if they have specifics
[23:12] <Flannel> Seeker`: Whats wrong with that?  It works except with those apps and compiz
[23:13] <Flannel> LjL: I say ditch the nag screen, the "how can we get people to do the test" is a social problem and as such, shouldn't have a technological solution
[23:13] <Seeker`> Flannel: I mean if you have something other than "works" or "doesn't work", you'll probably get a spectrum of answers
[23:13] <Flannel> Seeker`: And whats wrong with that?
[23:13] <mneptok> LjL: there's also System>Admin>Hardware Testing
[23:13] <Flannel> mneptok: I thinkthats what we're talking about
[23:13] <mneptok> LjL: that funnels stuff to Marc here in this office.
[23:13] <LjL> mneptok, that is the utility i referred to in my question - and the one we're basically talking about now
[23:14] <Flannel> LjL: A good deal of people would be willing to take 30 minutes to fill out a survey to help Ubuntu (and really, thats what they're doing, giving back)
[23:14] <Seeker`> Flannel: so if you rate how well it works from 1 to 5, i could forsee getting 20% of responses for each answer
[23:14] <LjL> mneptok: but there's two things missing from it: 1) having its output accessible in an easily browsable hardware list 2) making it much more comprehensive because computers don't just have a keyboard, mouse and screen
[23:15] <Flannel> Seeker`: Not a spectrum of responses, but word ones.  Theyre somewhat orthogonal, and only there to save people from having to type "I don't know" 20 times.
[23:16] <Flannel> That is, not "Rate your hardware from 1 to 5"
[23:16] <LjL> mneptok: in other words, again, imagine the !hardware page, but populated *not* with stuff manually input in a wiki, but with responses that users have been requested by a nice, user-friendly little program
[23:16] <mneptok> LjL: if you get me a proposal of how it could be made more efficient or provide better output, i'll get that to the right people
[23:18] <Flannel> jspiro: How can we help you?
[23:19] <LjL> mneptok: well a very concrete proposal (although i think there is something like this, i miss the URL right now, but it didn't look like being very working) is, just make the gathered data available to everyone on a site in percentage form.
[23:19] <jspiro> Flannel:  I submitted a huge change request regarding !ask to the bot.  I am curious to know if it will be approved.  But now that you mention it, I will retire to #ubuntu-irc instead.
[23:19] <LjL> mneptok: i type in "sound blaster super-ear-destroyer", and it tells me that 70% of users who have that card reported it working
[23:20] <Flannel> ....
[23:28]  * genii sips a coffee
[23:41]  * mneptok flips a donkey
[23:44] <Flannel> LjL: We're supposed to ask.
[23:44] <Flannel> Or, someone is.
[23:44] <LjL> Flannel: are you talking about ubotu?
[23:44] <Flannel> LjL: indeed
[23:45] <LjL> Flannel: actually, i reminded seveas some time ago that he had let the nickname expire.
[23:45] <Flannel> It was discussed at a meeting... the last one I think
[23:45] <LjL> i wasn't at that meeting, most likely.
[23:45] <Flannel> LjL: yeah, we're going ask, and if he refuses, its expired so we can just take it over.  But nicer to ask first, etc.
[23:45] <genii> There's meetings?
[23:46] <LjL> Flannel: it's not expired.
[23:46] <Flannel> LjL: it was at the meeting
[23:46] <LjL> Flannel: it's not now.
[23:47] <Flannel> genii: We're supposed to have them, yeah.  We've dropped the ball recently.
[23:48] <genii> Flannel: OK. No one told about this
[23:48] <LjL> genii: rest assured you'll find it in the topic if a meeting is scheduled.
[23:48] <genii> OK, good :)
[23:48] <Flannel> yeah, it'll be hard to miss.  Mailing list too
[23:48] <LjL> and on the ML for that matter
[23:49]  * LjL reboots, out of disk space for a change
[23:49] <genii> I'm not certain if I'm on the mailing list
[23:49] <genii> Was this done auto by my LP ?
[23:49] <LjL> subscription is open iirc
[23:49] <genii> (I'm not a member of any groups there)
[23:51] <Flannel> genii: no, ML and LP are separate
[23:51] <genii> ML = ?
[23:51] <Flannel> genii: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-irc
[23:51] <Flannel> Mailing List
[23:51] <genii> Ah, OK
[23:51] <Flannel> Er,
[23:52] <Flannel> yeah, thats the right list
[23:53] <genii> Subscribed
[23:53] <Flannel> How can we help you BIYJAMGe?
[23:53] <Flannel> oh
[23:53] <Flannel> nevermind
[23:55] <stdin> someone do "!test > stdin (see message from ubotu)" for me
[23:55] <Myrtti> !test > stdin (blah)
[23:55] <stdin> no, not that
[23:55] <stdin> needs "(see message from ubotu)"
[23:55] <Myrtti> hold on
[23:55] <Myrtti> !test > stdin (see message from ubotu)
[23:56] <stdin> well, I think I fixed it
[23:56] <stdin> thanks Myrtti :)
[23:56] <Myrtti> np