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viddafter installing with wubi, how do you access the windows "partition"?00:25
viddnvmd i found it00:26
viddthere is a folder in the / directory called /host00:26
Bumpheadvidd, you might want to look at epiphany or k-meleon00:31
viddBumphead, k-melon is windows-based....00:34
viddthat wont even run on my system =\00:35
viddany other light weight suggestions?00:40
charlie-tcawhat about midori00:42
Odd-rationalekazahakse00:42
Odd-rationalekazehakase00:42
viddis kazehakase in the repos?00:45
Odd-rationale!find kazahakase00:45
Odd-rationale!find kazehakase00:45
Odd-rationalehmm..00:45
Odd-rationale!info kazehakase00:46
ubottukazehakase (source: kazehakase): GTK+-base web browser that allows pluggable rendering engines. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-2.1ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 652 kB, installed size 1856 kB00:46
Odd-rationaleyep00:46
Odd-rationalewebkit/gtkhtml support is planned in the future...00:46
viddwell....im out guys00:48
atom_foxplanning to install xubuntu on my old pc later00:53
atom_foxI would like to know is there are software in linux that is similar to photoshop?00:54
atom_foxor should i just install wineo on my xubuntu then install photoshop\00:54
atom_foxanyone?00:55
atom_foxanyone here?00:59
atom_foxneed help bout something00:59
charlie-tcaatom_fox: I don´t know what you are doing, but here is some info on photoshop:01:00
charlie-tcahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Photos/LinuxAndPhotography01:00
atom_foxthanks men01:01
charlie-tcaatom_fox: check this one, too - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Photos01:01
RageAnyone else having periodic lockups in this new xubuntu ibex?01:33
ron_owhat are the chances this board: P5N7A-VM will also work on Ubuntu the way it did on Fedora 9 -- http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_p5n7a-vm.html02:47
Syco54645_AAOhello, i was wonder what xubuntu uses for networking, mainly wifi.  to configure that is02:56
SimplySethdoes xubuntu have a livecd thingie ?03:06
favroI don't use wifi but this should help Syco54645_AAO03:06
favro!wifi03:06
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:06
favroSimplySeth: yes03:06
favro!xubuntu03:06
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels03:06
favroabiword isn't handling my office docs nicely and I can't find a howto to get it sorted - is there a link that someone can share?04:06
OG1Alo! I want to install xubuntu in my brothers pc, but the cd driver is not working. There is another way to install it?04:08
favroOG1: you can from usb and others04:10
favro!install04:10
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate04:10
OG1I was trying to change the boot order to install it from usb, but it doesn't have USB on the list04:13
favroOG1: Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs04:15
favroI fixed my abiword issue - a quick hack was needed...04:15
Toshiakihi ! ^^05:28
atom_foxhi guys need help06:30
atom_foxis it possible to install xubuntu on an extarnel hard disk without destroying the current hd inside our computer06:31
atom_foxbecause i'm using a family use computer06:31
atom_foxi wanted to try xubuntu but all i have is my own usb hard disk06:31
atom_foxhope to hear from you guys06:31
atom_foxthanks06:31
ooglebutteyou can - things to watch out for are the partition you install to and that you put grub on the external06:32
ooglebutteif you want to boot without the external attached06:32
zoredacheit should be possible, but getting it to boot make be tricky06:32
atom_foxour pc supports booting from usb06:33
atom_foxbut i'm worried i might overwrite the hard disk inside our pc06:33
atom_foxi'm thinking to disable the hard disk first then try to boot from the cd so all i have is the external hard disk06:34
atom_foxis that better?06:34
atom_fox??06:34
ooglebutteyou could unplug the internal while you install06:34
atom_foxok06:35
atom_foxafter i installed on my external hd, will run like a live cd? or it will run like a normal hd?06:35
atom_fox??06:37
ooglebuttethe install will be an install - a normal os06:38
atom_foxok thanks...06:38
ooglebuttenp06:38
atom_foxwait..06:38
atom_fox^_^06:38
ooglebutte.06:38
atom_foxcan i make a partition on my external hd?06:39
ooglebuttethat's part of the install process06:39
ooglebutteit will give a choice to use the whole disk or do it yourself manually06:39
atom_foxok thanks again06:40
atom_foxsee you06:40
zoredacheatom_fox: just a though, but it sounds like you don't have a backup of this system?  Attempting a pretty complex install without a good backup is a bad idea.  Particuarly if you aren't already familar with how the installer works06:40
atom_foxi'll try on that now06:40
ooglebutteyou can ask here anytime06:40
atom_foxthanks06:40
atom_foxmy external drive has nothing on it06:40
atom_foxit has 160GB06:40
atom_foxi just wanted to make a partition so i could use some space for storage of my files in windows06:41
atom_foxthanks again guys06:41
atom_foxsee you around06:41
ooglebuttebye and good luck06:41
knomein xubuntu, can i save rsa keys to gnome-keyring-manager, if i ssh them to with xfce4-terminal? i've heard this works automatically with gnome-terminal07:22
zoredacheI am not sure, but you could hack out a script really quick that simple does an ssh-add when you login07:26
knomezoredache, could that script fetch the pass from gnome-keyring-manager? i rather not leave it unencrypted anywhee07:28
knome+r07:28
zoredacheno, but it could fetch it from you07:29
knomewell eh, that's not quite usable either07:29
knomeeven my password is something i don't want to type over and over again :P07:29
zoredacheyou only time it when you login, not each time you use it07:30
knomeyes, i know. but even once per login is too much07:30
zoredachehrm..07:31
knomei have to go now, see you later07:39
tegsheehello08:27
tegsheehow to deactive tasklist sorting08:28
tegsheeby name?08:28
ooglebuttetegshee: what do you call tasklist sorting - I don't know that term - what uses it?08:29
tegsheewindow name list08:31
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burimhello08:58
favro!hi08:58
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!08:58
burimwhen ever i restart my computer, xubuntu doesnt remember the position of the panels... every time both the top and the bottom panel (the default ones) appear at the bottom of the screen, anyone knows how i can fix this ?09:00
favroburim: what does   ls -la ./.config   in terminal return? - any mention of root?09:03
burimnope09:03
favrok09:04
burimi do have xfce4 there, and i think im using emerald, dont they conflict?09:05
favroare you using compiz?09:06
burimyes09:06
favrowell09:06
favro!compiz09:06
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion09:06
burimoh ok thanks09:06
favrothey do conflict09:07
aLeSDhi all09:57
aLeSDdo u know the name of the ubuntu application to burn an iso image in a pendrive and make it bootable ?09:59
aLeSDubuntu 8.10 has it ... but xubuntu seems not09:59
TheSheep!install | aLeSD09:59
ubottuaLeSD: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate09:59
TheSheepaLeSD: there are some howtos09:59
homebrewciderif i upgrade the distro through the update manger, will I keep my data?12:16
favrohomebrewcider: that is the idea behind it yes - but it is always wise to make a backup12:20
favro!backup12:20
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:20
homebrewcidercool12:21
homebrewcidercheers12:21
favroit is cool :)12:21
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joakim12Hei. I have a little question. I tried to look for man 3 select, but it didn't found it. Neither is there a manulal for stdio.h or man 3 printf. So the question is, which package has manpages?15:27
favrojoakim12: all I can ask here is what are you trying to find ?15:27
viddjoakim12, usuall [package]-doc15:27
TheSheepjoakim12: also man-pages-dev15:28
charlie-tcajoakim12: you have to install the man pages for dev15:28
joakim12Thank you. I got it with package manpages-dev. "apt-get install manpages-dev " resolved my problem.15:32
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moncojhrhello, i just installed xubuntu and i get a fairly obvious sort of blur/ghosting15:59
moncojhrhow can i fix this?15:59
favrothat makes me think the vid card drivers aren't right - tried the restricted drivers manager?16:01
moncojhrits a radeon 9200se, apparantly the proprietary drivers dont work for it, so im using the open-source drivers... although the same thing was happening in the vesa driver16:03
favroare you using the ati driver? - is it listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the device section?16:07
moncojhryes16:07
moncojhrcalled "ati" but also i had the same thing when i had "vesa" or whatver its called in their16:08
favrodid you make that entry? - and restart X ?  - ctrl+alt+bkspace16:09
moncojhryes16:09
favrok16:09
favrothe 9200 is an old card - are you using 8.10?16:11
favro!version16:11
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »16:11
favrolsb_release -a » in a !shell16:12
moncojhryeah im using 8.1016:13
favroyou might be best off using the ati driver - tried that?16:16
moncojhrfglrx ?16:16
favrono ati - it is in the kernel already16:18
moncojhrisnt that what im using16:18
moncojhri've got "ati" as the driver in xorg.conf16:19
favrothe ati isn't propetary16:19
moncojhryeah thats what im using ?16:20
moncojhrthe open source ati driver16:20
moncojhrooh16:22
moncojhrlooks like i found the problem T_T16:22
moncojhrthe vga extension cable seems to be causing it16:23
favroohh - it is h/ware?16:23
moncojhryeah looks like it16:23
TheSheepmoncojhr: it's probably not supported in xubuntu ;)16:23
moncojhri put the box in my cubboard16:23
favrowell done :)16:23
moncojhrand bought a vga extension cable16:24
moncojhrseems to be introducing the ghosting16:24
moncojhrmaybe its shitty quality... hmmmmm16:24
vidd!language | moncojhr16:24
ubottumoncojhr: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:24
charlie-tcamoncojhr: I find if the network cable is touching the vga cable, i get video interference16:25
favromoncojhr: I would swear about it too - just not type it16:25
moncojhractually i dont get it when its loading up16:34
moncojhror maybe i just cant see it on the black16:36
moncojhrin lspci it says my secondary device on my gfx card is 1:00.0116:44
moncojhrwhat would i put in BusID in xorg.conf16:44
Coder365_anyone here using conky?16:46
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Odd-rationaleCoder365_: i use conky.18:14
Coder365_Odd-rationale, i got my problem figured out18:17
Coder365_thx though18:17
Odd-rationalecool.18:17
rien-ne-va-plushi guys19:09
rien-ne-va-plusi just installed xubuntu, but for some reason its not shutting down completly19:09
viddrien-ne-va-plus, hello19:09
rien-ne-va-plusit turns off the hard disk and everything but the cpu fan stays on19:10
rien-ne-va-plusis that some kind of acpi problem?19:10
viddrien-ne-va-plus, are you hitting "Quit" and then hitting [enter]?19:10
viddor are you clicking the "shutdown" option?19:11
rien-ne-va-plusim using the quit symbol next to the clock and then i choose shutdown19:11
viddis this a laptop or a desktop?19:12
rien-ne-va-plusdesktop19:12
rien-ne-va-plusold one19:12
rien-ne-va-plusduron 1000mhz19:12
rien-ne-va-pluswith sdram19:12
vidddoes typing "sudo shutdown -h 0" give you the same results?19:12
rien-ne-va-plusi will try that in a minute19:14
rien-ne-va-plusright now i cant seem to find my w-lan19:14
viddrien-ne-va-plus, what kind of wifi card?19:21
jurttihi ya19:22
viddwhere does sun-java6-jre put the java plugin?19:23
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: i just tried an usb adapter which worked fine, im using a msi pci adapter which is being recognized as mini pci card19:23
jurttiI've got a strange but possibly really small problem: my update manager wont give me any notice about the new 8.10 upgrade (i've got hardy heron)19:23
jurttiso what to do?19:23
rien-ne-va-pluswell must be some error with the antenna or the adapter19:24
viddjurtti, it wont....hardy is long-term-support....19:24
viddjurtti, you need to open terminal and type "update-manager -d"19:24
viddrien-ne-va-plus, what does lspci say your card is?19:25
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: will tell you in a minute. just tried the shutdown command. gives the same result. screen and hdd turning off, fan and LED still on. only react to hard-off and hard-reset19:26
jurttividd: ha, how stupid of as i just did the same thing with ubuntu some time ago. thank you for reminding me! :D19:26
viddjurtti, i asked the same thing myself19:27
viddrien-ne-va-plus, then it is likely a bios setting19:27
viddrien-ne-va-plus, did windows have the same issue?19:27
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: already tried to check that, couldnt figure out what to change though19:27
viddi know some really old computers had this issue19:28
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: not afaicr19:28
rien-ne-va-plusits been on windows for quite a while w/o that issue thats for sure19:28
jurttividd: I'be been using ubuntu/xubuntu only for a few weeks. I sure hope it's going a bit more nicely in the future. but thanks -> got to get the upgrade started19:29
viddrien-ne-va-plus, you might want to google your MOBO for bios configuration19:30
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: about the network problem: might be a driver issue: it recognizes "RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)"19:30
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: the MOBO is really bad, its a pcchips noname, noname chipset... tried finding a newer bios couple of times, cause this one has issues with athlon XP...19:31
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: the card im using is a MSI PCI r54g2 card... dont know if thats supposed to work with that driver19:32
viddrien-ne-va-plus, for the wifi...you have restricted drivers turned on? (im not familiar with that specific card)19:32
rien-ne-va-plusive changed nothing in the config, just installed xubuntu couple of days ago19:33
viddrien-ne-va-plus, so it worked with linux b4?19:33
rien-ne-va-plusive got the same adapter in a computer running kubuntu 8.10 and it works19:34
rien-ne-va-plusat least i think19:34
rien-ne-va-pluswill check19:34
* vidd does not like the network manager that ships with ubuntu...he uses wicd instead19:36
rien-ne-va-plusalright, so kubuntu recognizes an adapter of exactly the same type without problems...19:39
rien-ne-va-pluswill check the antennas19:39
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rien-ne-va-plusvidd: well strange the card works OK with the same driver in another system running kubuntu 8.1020:00
viddthe exact same card?20:02
rien-ne-va-plussame model20:02
viddrien-ne-va-plus, try swapping the cards20:03
viddit may be a hardware issue20:03
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: yeah that would suck20:09
rien-ne-va-plusill check it later... gotta go now20:09
rien-ne-va-plusvidd: thanks for your help20:09
batcoder-7anyone here use wine for any apps ?20:13
knomesure.20:13
ErionHi, I'm new to Xubuntu and have a question, is this the right forum?20:15
viddErion, yes this is20:16
Erionwhen I try to install, or run from the cd my screen blinks black. Does I do anything wrong?20:17
viddErion, you probably do not have enough ram to run the live cd20:19
batcoder-7knome: how do you change the theme ? to a more better looking one ?20:19
Erionhow much do I need? The computer has 512M20:19
batcoder-7i mena it has a winndows look to it but its a really bad looking win9520:19
knomebatcoder-7, well it's what wine emulated apps look.20:29
batcoder-7knome: i have seen screenshots and they look better20:30
batcoder-72ndly knome wine is not emulation ;)20:30
pyntixhow can i get an output with info about my motherboard? name, model, etc... i'm using xubuntu 6.0620:31
batcoder-7hey my applicaiton menu disappeared20:32
batcoder-7how can i add it back ?20:32
batcoder-7all i have is *places*20:34
batcoder-7what is the application menu called ?20:34
viddxfce Menu20:34
batcoder-7ok20:35
batcoder-7whew20:35
batcoder-7my system doesnt seem to run as light after the 8.10 upgrade dont know why and maybe its just me20:36
CapTechThat's because 8.10 is a bit more bloated.20:36
batcoder-7i see20:37
batcoder-7like is it running more stuff ?20:37
CapTechbatcoder-7: I can't swear to it, but I think it is.  I agree, when I did a beta of 8.10, it seemed much heavier.20:38
ErionIs there a problem with radeon graphic cards?20:39
SajutaHey, I'm a semi-new Ubuntu user, trying to install Xubuntu on an older PC we had laying about, and the installation keeps stalling. I'm unable to resize any partitions, and when I just used one of the existing (but empty) ones, it stopped while "configuring system locales" (78%). I've reburned the image at a lower speed, had it check the CD for faults... I'm stumped. :X20:42
viddSajuta, live, alt or mini install?20:43
SajutaFrom a LiveCD.20:43
Sajutavidd: ^20:43
viddSajuta, use the alt or the mini20:43
Sajutavidd: What are the differences?20:43
viddthe alt and the mini use a different partitioner and less memory to do what is needed20:44
SajutaAh... hm. I'll have to give that a try, then. Thanks!20:45
viddthe alt is a full disk with all repos on the disk, and the mini gets all the files from the internet during install20:45
SajutaAh, well, it's wired to the network. Shouldn't be any problems that way (I hope, LOL).20:46
viddthen i'd use the mini20:46
vidd!netinstall20:46
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:46
viddknome, whats the ! for the mini iso?20:47
vidd!mini20:47
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:47
SajutaVery neat. I had been wondering if you could do something like that!20:47
* vidd loves the mini20:48
viddlets you install all flavors from one ,10mb disk20:48
vidd*<10mb20:48
SajutaWow. That is handy! If only I had more people to convert. ^_^ At the moment just working on getting my mom into it. I'm glad there's something easy enough even she can understand it.20:50
knomevidd, x)20:56
batcoder-7i got alot of programs i didnt need on this machine20:57
batcoder-7i used the live cd20:57
SajutaWow, downloaded and burnt already. I cross my fingers this works.20:57
viddbatcoder-7, that is because the wonderful folks who hold the power have decided that you need to install all the recommends by default20:57
knomevidd, "wonderful" without a single bit of sarcasm?20:59
batcoder-7i see20:59
viddknome, i plead the fifth20:59
batcoder-7when i went from 8.04 to 8.10 i saw a noticeable speed / performance difference20:59
batcoder-7this is osme old hardware but still20:59
dcolishbatcoder-7: can you elaborate? is it boot time, program load, etc?21:00
knomevidd, woot? (didn't get the point, might be because i'm not a native english speaker?)21:00
viddbatcoder-7, on my relic, i installed the base system, turned off install recommends and built up from there21:00
knome-->21:01
viddknome, the fifth ammendment to the USA contitution is the right to protection from self-incrimination21:01
knomevidd, k :P21:01
batcoder-7hmm21:01
batcoder-7just when i upgraded it seems lk its using more cpu and ram21:02
batcoder-7but i didnt measure last time so i couldt be for sure21:02
batcoder-7but it sure feels like it21:02
viddbatcoder-7, did you turn on the encryption?21:02
batcoder-7dont think so21:02
dcolishbatcoder-7: would you mind sharing your hardware specs?21:02
batcoder-7if it did i didn't21:02
batcoder-7dcolish: celeron 2.8 - 512 ram ;)21:03
batcoder-7im about to get a new computer but yea21:03
dcolishdid you install xubuntu directly?21:03
batcoder-7yea21:03
batcoder-7i installed 8.0421:03
viddbatcoder-7, that is old????21:03
batcoder-7was very fast and light21:03
viddill pay for shipping =]21:03
batcoder-7this is still fast i guess21:04
batcoder-7but not as fast / light as that oen was21:04
charlie-tcabeats my 1.4 and 1.2, not to mention 400Mhz21:04
batcoder-7just a regular xubuntu with nothing running but xfce manager and services it ran is like 230 mb of ram21:04
batcoder-7vidd: very old21:04
batcoder-703?21:04
batcoder-7i got it in 2003 i think21:05
viddbatcoder-7, newer then all but one of my systems (and i have 8 working)21:05
batcoder-7where you live ?21:05
viddPA, USA21:05
batcoder-7i see21:05
* charlie-tca only got 5 systems21:05
batcoder-7i got 221:05
batcoder-7and a few old pos21:05
batcoder-7400 mhz p3 etc21:06
dcolishbatcoder-7: my sense is that the kernel is using swap much more extensively in 8.10 than in 8.04. If you look at vmstat 1 100 and do some heavy processing you should see the swap number change alot21:06
batcoder-7its not that bad so im not complaing that much21:06
dcolishwell you're not the only one talking up, the difference in speed from systems with low ram appears to be common21:07
viddVERY common21:07
homebrewciderI tried upgrading from the update manager, it worked all night, gave me some message about failing to get firefox update, but seems to have achieved nothing. It still says "new distibution release is available"21:07
viddhomebrewcider, you might want to consider the "server upgrade" method21:08
dcolishvidd:  did you se the phoronix articles?21:08
homebrewciderserver upgrade? why?21:08
homebrewcidernot it's telling me "failed to fetch cdrom"21:08
viddhomebrewcider, because the graphic updater seams to be dying on you21:08
batcoder-7dcolish: as i said its not that bad really, but yea, will be getting a new system soon anyhow21:08
viddhomebrewcider, oh!21:08
pyntixmy sound isn't working... in 'cat /proc/asound/cards'-output its the first but i cant hear anything... i'm on xubuntu 6.0621:09
batcoder-7almost like its not as smooth too21:09
viddthe edit your sources.list and comment out (add # to the begining of the line) for the cdrom21:09
batcoder-7when moving windows around it far from smooth21:09
dcolishbatcoder-7: fair enough, but linux should be decently fast on that hardware.21:09
batcoder-7hope thye didnt mess with the video driver21:09
viddpyntix, laptop?21:09
batcoder-7this pos intel is not all so good anyways21:09
dcolishbatcoder-7: are you enabling compositing?21:10
pyntixvidd: no, old desktop21:10
dcolishit does help smooth things out, but uses more cpu21:10
batcoder-7i didn't touch anything but what was default21:10
pyntixvidd: but with a pretty new sound card21:10
viddpyntix, you have the volume applet on the panel?21:10
pyntixvidd: yup21:10
homebrewciderI downloaded the cd last week, shall i upgrade from that instead?21:10
viddpyntix, open it up and make sure the "PCM" is max'ed out21:11
pyntixthere is no pcm21:11
viddhomebrewcider, i wouldnt....just comment out the cd in your sources file.... /etc/apt/sources.list21:11
pyntixvidd21:11
viddpyntix, then right-click the applet and choose "properties"21:12
dcolishpyntix: do you have alsamixer installed?21:12
pyntixdcolish: yes21:12
homebrewciderhmm, there's sources list and a dist-upgrade sources list21:12
dcolishcool, run it from the cli21:13
viddpyntix, what does the "device" say?21:13
viddhomebrewcider, ????21:13
pyntixvidd: #0: CA010621:13
viddpyntix, are there other choices?21:13
homebrewciderhmm, seemingly the same21:13
viddhomebrewcider, only edit the one i told you21:14
pyntixvidd: yes, another card which i do not want to use21:14
viddpyntix, humor me....select that one....any change?21:14
homebrewcidertop 2 lines say cdrom, do it for both?21:14
viddhomebrewcider, yes...comment them both out21:15
viddpyntix, dont change wires....just the device (checking wires is the next test)21:16
vidd=]21:16
vidd(can anyone tell i do tech support for a living?)21:16
homebrewciderok, trying that21:16
dcolishvidd: fyi, had an issue with sound before, where the applet did not properly represent the sound device. had to use commandline alsamixer to set it up, then applet worked.21:18
pyntixvidd: no difference, probably because i dont have the headphones in the other card21:19
pyntixwtf21:20
viddpyntix, next....have you verified that the speakers are plugged in correctly?21:20
pyntixvidd: yup, sure did21:20
viddpyntix, wtf what?21:20
pyntixvidd: i had the same problem (but with another sound card) a few days ago21:20
pyntixvidd: wtf because the volume sets itself to 021:20
pyntixo_O21:20
pyntixi raise it, it lowers itself21:21
viddha....ive seen this.....21:21
viddthis means the correct driver is not installed21:21
pyntixaha21:21
viddlspci should tell you the correct card....21:22
viddthen google for instructions on installing the right driver21:22
vidd(or a re-boot might auto-load the correct kernel driver)21:22
viddpyntix, the other device DOES stay where you put it....right?21:23
homebrewciderIt seemingly upgrades, getting less each time, but I continually get this error message- "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/firefox-3.0_3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch" and it still says "new istribution release available"21:25
pyntixvidd: yes it behaves normally21:25
viddpyntix, then you are not missing any alsa-related stuff....its the driver21:26
bringatowelhow do i change the file association for .avi files?21:26
pyntixok...21:26
viddbringatowel, right-click an avi file, choose "open with" then check the "alway use (or something similar) box and the desired app21:27
viddhomebrewcider, then there appears to be an issue with firefox....21:27
viddwhat are you upgrading from/to?21:28
viddhomebrewcider, before you upgrade....update completely21:28
viddhomebrewcider, cancel the upgrade.....21:29
bringatowelvidd, great thanks!21:29
viddopen terminal....type "sudo apt-get update && sudo dist-upgrade"21:30
viddbringatowel, no problem...pay it forward =]21:31
viddhomebrewcider, does it say there are a bunch of files to update?21:32
homebrewciderno,21:32
homebrewciderit hit all the usual spots, sys done at the end21:33
viddhomebrewcider, what is your current version?21:33
homebrewciderI was running 8.0421:33
homebrewcidercould it have actually done it now?21:33
homebrewciderhow can I tell?21:33
vidd!version21:34
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »21:34
viddhomebrewcider, ^^^^21:34
homebrewciderI have 8.04 still21:35
pyntixvidd: im having trouble finding a driver :/21:35
viddpyntix, unfortunantly....my only suggestion would be a fresh install (i hate driver hunting)21:36
vidd!server upgrade21:36
pyntixvidd: :( ok21:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about server upgrade21:36
pyntixdamn21:36
viddpyntix, im sure there are others that can help....its just outside my expertise21:36
pyntixvidd: ok21:37
pyntixvidd: thanks anyway so fat21:37
pyntix*far o_O21:37
vidd=]21:37
homebrewciderme? server upgrade?21:37
viddhomebrewcider, yes21:37
homebrewcidercli?21:38
viddhomebrewcider, yes21:38
viddgive me a sec to get the exaxt verbage21:38
dcolishpyntix: do you know what device you're looking for specifically?21:38
viddhomebrewcider, you can also look here :http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading21:39
homebrewciderif it's firefox causing problem, can i just uninstall firefox, upgrade then reinstall?21:39
viddhomebrewcider, absolutely....21:39
pyntixdcolish: i know which sound card i have: Sound Blaster Audigy LS21:39
scooby2is there a good diskless howto?21:39
homebrewcidermight try that first ey?21:40
viddi just bet you dollars to donutes that firefox is only one of many such failures21:40
homebrewciderok bbs, school run21:40
vidd!diskless21:40
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate21:40
dcolishpyntix: I think you've done the lspci, lsmod stuff right?21:40
scooby2vidd: thank you21:40
viddscooby2, np21:40
pyntixdcolish: eh, explain please :P21:41
dcolishpyntix: if you really want know the pci info for an audio card, try lspci | grep audio21:41
dcolishi think vidd had you doing that earlier, did you run it?21:41
pyntixdcolish: no... and this is strange (or perhaps not? >_<) because it doesnt exist there21:42
dcolishhow many devices are listed? you said you have two, so there should be two21:42
pyntixnope, there is only one ther21:42
pyntixand not the one i want to use21:43
viddD'OH!!!!21:43
dcolishwell make sure the card is seated correctly21:43
pyntixbut uh21:45
pyntixit is visible in every other place i've tried o_O21:45
pyntixand when i plug in my headset, i hear a faint buzz or something, like you always do when you plug it in in a working sound...thing21:47
pyntixoh hm21:47
dcolishpyntix: did you run lsmod | grep snd?21:47
pyntixwoh21:48
pyntixno21:48
pyntixbut when i ran 'lspci' only, my sound card was there21:48
pyntix0000:00:0c.0 ffff: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS (rev ff)21:48
pyntixbut those f's look bad21:48
dcolishyou're just assuming that21:49
pyntixno... not really21:49
pyntix0000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 20)21:50
pyntixthat's my other card, the one that showed up in 'lspci | grep audio'21:50
dcolishpyntix: did you run lsmod yet?21:50
pyntixyes i did21:50
pyntixdcolish: there is a lot of text, something special i should look for?21:51
dcolishdo lsmod | grep snd like first suggested... kernel modules that control sound are usually prefixed by snd21:51
pyntixok, i've done that21:52
juanantonioHello, anyone helps me?21:53
pyntixuh, what now o_O i have the output from äsmod | grep snd21:53
dcolishput that output into a pastebin and send the link to me21:54
juanantonioI want to install Xubuntu in a 500 or 800 MHz PC because W98SE does not work, but I have some information in both disk drives, should I have any caution?21:56
dcolishjuanantonio: the current xubuntu has been having perfomance issues on older machines, try 8.0421:57
juanantonioOk, 8.04...but I had prepared a ISO-CD of 8.04, damm21:59
juanantonioAnything else or only with this caution everything will be allreight?22:00
dcolishjuanantonio: ?22:00
juanantonioI had prepared it of 8.1022:00
dcolishjuanantonio: define alright :)22:00
dcolishyou might have trouble, might not, thats what we're here for22:00
Sajuta"Performance issues"? I wonder if that's the source of my installation from hell. LOL22:01
dcolishSajuta: well that won't effect the actual install and configuration22:01
juanantonioHuhuhu, yes, but the thing is that I want to have this PC unloading files fro the web basically22:01
juanantonioI have 2 more PCs22:02
SajutaMaybe, maybe... I just can't seem to install to this one computer. It's throwing out errors. I'm thinking bad HD on it. =(22:02
pyntixdcolish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68581/22:02
dcolishpyntix: those are all right, please just try to reseat the card22:04
pyntixdcolish: ok :S22:04
dcolishSajuta: what are the errors?22:04
dcolishpyntix:  FYI, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ca010622:04
dcolishpyntix: can you pastebin the text in /etc/modules.conf22:06
Sajutadcolish: When I tried installing from the LiveCD, it wouldn't edit the partition and then stalled while "configuring system locales". I tried reburning the CD, came in here, someone called vidd recommended the miniCD. The partition happened, but then it stalled while getting the "xubuntu desktop" packages. I tried it again and it croaked during the base installation.22:08
pyntixit cant be some incompatibility between the card and the motherboard then?22:08
dcolishSajuta: just for kicks try booting from another small distro like damn small linux22:09
SajutaI should do that... I wonder if I'm good enough at Linux for it. I've only been into Ubuntu a little over a year.22:10
dcolishSajuta: the idea is to see if the install media is the problem, or the hd, or cdrom.. the boot is easy22:10
pyntixdoh22:18
pyntixdcolish: i rebooted and changed its place22:19
pyntixdcolish: now it show up like 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0583 in lspci22:19
pyntixat least i think thats that22:20
dcolishdoesnt sound like it, is you old sound card still there?22:20
pyntixyup22:20
pyntixbut the old is in the motherboard22:21
dcolishhow exactly are you hooking this all up?22:21
pyntixyou mean, physically?22:22
pyntixuh, i'm just plugging it into a PCI port or whatever its called22:22
dcolishand it seats smoothly?22:23
pyntixyup22:23
dcolishdo this, try swapping slots with the new and old card22:24
pyntixas i said, the old card is _in_ the motherboard; integrated22:24
pyntixso no can do :/22:24
dcolishpyntix: in = inserted , on = integrated generally22:24
pyntixoh22:24
pyntix._.22:25
pyntixi dont often use such technical terms in english :/22:25
dcolishok well, lets try some modprobe magic22:25
dcolishcan you place the contents of your /etc/modprobe.conf in a pastebin?22:25
pyntixuh, no, it doesn't exist22:28
dcolishok well lets create one then, sudo vi /etc/modprobe.conf22:30
pyntixdcolish: oki, done22:31
dcolishi'm sorry, thats wrong, instead open up /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and put that into a pastebin22:34
dcolishi'm mixing up my distros22:34
pyntixxD22:39
pyntixdcolish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68596/22:42
GeorgDCC SEND ANYONE.STILL.EFFECTED.BY.THIS.LOL.EXE22:45
pyntixo_O22:46
matt247set up remote desktop viewer on my ubuntu PC then when I log into it with my xubuntu machine there is just a black screen cant even see the mouse22:46
dcolishok pyntix lets try two things, sudo alsaconf22:47
dcolishpyntix: see this forum22:47
dcolishhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/no-sound-in-ubuntu-inbuilt-sound-blaster-24bit-g1795x-motherboard-669204/page2.html#post327916522:47
pyntixdcolish: sudo: alsaconf: command not found22:53
dcolishpyntix: have you installed alsa-utils?22:54
pyntixyup22:55
dcolishdid you read through that forum link i sent above?22:56
pyntixim working on it :P22:57
pyntixthe entire topic or just the post?22:57
dcolishas much as it takes to resolve your issue22:58
pyntixok22:58
dcolishif you follow that thread you'll hopefully be able to solve it22:59
dcolishpyntix: good luck, i gotta run. I'll be on later if you're still stuck23:13

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