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kirmaI'm interested about the specific compilation option/compiler differences between i386 and lpia architectures, where can I find the details?12:56
persiaThe gcc and glibc sources.12:56
persiaWell, technically, any given package might have a special flag for lpia, but in the common case, it would be in the compiler and core libraries themselves.12:57
kirmathere are some actual patches to gcc for it?12:57
kirmawhat about compilation options?12:58
persiaThe vast majority of packages don't have any difference in the instructions passed to the compiler, so any changes would be in the compiler defaults.12:58
kirmaok12:59
persiaI'm not sure that there are real changes in gcc behaviour, but I'd suspect some changed defaults for gcc and glibc would be the primary set of discoverable differences.12:59
kirmawell, optimizations and targets... too bad that gcc doesn't really have a proper instruction scheduler for intel atom target, as far as I've understood13:00
kirmaand even intel is strangely silent about scheduling optimizations for atom, haven't found practically anything about it from their docs13:00
BUGabundo_workhi guys15:31
BUGabundo_workwhat would you install on an eeePC 901?15:31
BUGabundo_workkeep xandros, eeebuntu, ubuntu eee, ubuntu-umpc?15:31
playyaBUGabundo_work, the installes xandros sucks on my 70115:33
BUGabundo_workI don't like it either!15:34
BUGabundo_workbut its not for me!15:34
playyai have a eeXubuntu installed and going to test ubuntu-eee next week,... maybe15:34
BUGabundo_workI tried it for a while but couldn't do all the things I do on ubuntu15:34
BUGabundo_workso I booted umpc15:34
BUGabundo_workand is now doing some package updates BEFORE I install it15:34
BUGabundo_worklet me know how it goes15:35
BUGabundo_workso I can use the knowlage on this eeepc15:35
BUGabundo_workany blog with your findings?15:35
playyanope. not really15:35
BUGabundo_workI'll have to ping you then, here or on #ubuntu-buga15:36
BUGabundo_work*bugs15:36
BUGabundo_workhumm wifi won't work on 901??15:36
playyahere15:36
BUGabundo_workand I could only make it boot from the right side USBports15:36
BUGabundo_workfrom the left it wouldn't boot...15:37
persiaWifi on the 901 needs linux-backports-modules15:40
persiaAlso, the package updates one does before install won't affect the install : it's generally better to install, and then update.15:40
BUGabundo_workok15:41
BUGabundo_worksometimes there are updates on the installer15:41
BUGabundo_workI happened to need that back on gutsy15:42
BUGabundo_workor was it feisty?15:42
BUGabundo_workbah.. long time15:42
BUGabundo_workgot a crash with this updates15:42
BUGabundo_workshould I file it?15:42
BUGabundo_workit was a kernel update crash15:42
BUGabundo_workI guess I don't need to15:42
BUGabundo_workpeople don't do kernel updates on livecds/livepen15:43
persiaThere's always updates available pre-install : it's just that applying those updates won't mean that the install has the updates applied : one needs to apply them again.  Generally, it's easier to apply them only once post-install.15:43
BUGabundo_workand the installer window is a few pixeis bigger then the screen15:44
BUGabundo_workpersia: playya should the swap go on the 4GBs SSD or the 16GBs?15:45
playyai don't use any15:45
playyassd and swap = not a good idea15:45
persiaI wouldn't recommend putting swap on an SSD.15:45
persiaI'm a *huge* fan of swap, but for an SSD system, compcache is a better way to gain the advantages of swap.15:46
BUGabundo_workand does the system hibernate without it?15:46
persiaHmm.  That's an interesting question, as hibernate usually goes to a swap partition.15:47
BUGabundo_workyep15:47
BUGabundo_workthat's why I askt15:47
BUGabundo_workwhat happens with your sustem playya?15:48
BUGabundo_workI need an answer on this guys!15:49
playyai never hibernated my EEE before15:49
BUGabundo_workcan you do it?15:49
BUGabundo_workright now?15:49
BUGabundo_workplease?15:49
playyamaybe test it when I'm at home15:49
BUGabundo_workpreatty please?15:49
BUGabundo_workwith sugar on top?15:49
BUGabundo_workahhh15:49
BUGabundo_workI need to format the laptop now15:49
BUGabundo_workI'll have to leave work in an hour15:50
BUGabundo_workand the boss wants to take it home15:50
playyause swap.15:50
playyamom15:50
playyaone second ;)15:51
BUGabundo_workplayya: ping15:52
BUGabundo_workhumm is he here still?15:52
playyano response in other channels :(15:52
playyai currently have a lesson15:52
BUGabundo_workI'll go with swap15:52
BUGabundo_workthe laptop has 2GiBs15:52
BUGabundo_workso 2.5Gbs should do it15:53
BUGabundo_workI can remove it later from fstab15:53
playyaor you test without a swap15:53
BUGabundo_workbut adding it would be much more work15:53
playyaand resize later15:53
BUGabundo_worktoo much work15:53
persiaBUGabundo_work, Do be careful : swap on SSD might reduce the SSD lifetime.  Of course, this might be completely false : it's an unverified rumour.15:53
BUGabundo_workremoving is easier15:53
BUGabundo_workeheh15:53
persiaWhether it's true probably depends as much on how the SSD is implemented as anything else.15:54
BUGabundo_workBHAAAAAAAAAA15:54
BUGabundo_workI can't quit the installer!15:54
BUGabundo_workxkill it!16:24
BUGabundo_worklolk16:24
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