[12:56] <kirma> I'm interested about the specific compilation option/compiler differences between i386 and lpia architectures, where can I find the details?
[12:56] <persia> The gcc and glibc sources.
[12:57] <persia> Well, technically, any given package might have a special flag for lpia, but in the common case, it would be in the compiler and core libraries themselves.
[12:57] <kirma> there are some actual patches to gcc for it?
[12:58] <kirma> what about compilation options?
[12:58] <persia> The vast majority of packages don't have any difference in the instructions passed to the compiler, so any changes would be in the compiler defaults.
[12:59] <kirma> ok
[12:59] <persia> I'm not sure that there are real changes in gcc behaviour, but I'd suspect some changed defaults for gcc and glibc would be the primary set of discoverable differences.
[13:00] <kirma> well, optimizations and targets... too bad that gcc doesn't really have a proper instruction scheduler for intel atom target, as far as I've understood
[13:00] <kirma> and even intel is strangely silent about scheduling optimizations for atom, haven't found practically anything about it from their docs
[15:31] <BUGabundo_work> hi guys
[15:31] <BUGabundo_work> what would you install on an eeePC 901?
[15:31] <BUGabundo_work> keep xandros, eeebuntu, ubuntu eee, ubuntu-umpc?
[15:33] <playya> BUGabundo_work, the installes xandros sucks on my 701
[15:34] <BUGabundo_work> I don't like it either!
[15:34] <BUGabundo_work> but its not for me!
[15:34] <playya> i have a eeXubuntu installed and going to test ubuntu-eee next week,... maybe
[15:34] <BUGabundo_work> I tried it for a while but couldn't do all the things I do on ubuntu
[15:34] <BUGabundo_work> so I booted umpc
[15:34] <BUGabundo_work> and is now doing some package updates BEFORE I install it
[15:35] <BUGabundo_work> let me know how it goes
[15:35] <BUGabundo_work> so I can use the knowlage on this eeepc
[15:35] <BUGabundo_work> any blog with your findings?
[15:35] <playya> nope. not really
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> I'll have to ping you then, here or on #ubuntu-buga
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> *bugs
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> humm wifi won't work on 901??
[15:36] <playya> here
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> and I could only make it boot from the right side USBports
[15:37] <BUGabundo_work> from the left it wouldn't boot...
[15:40] <persia> Wifi on the 901 needs linux-backports-modules
[15:40] <persia> Also, the package updates one does before install won't affect the install : it's generally better to install, and then update.
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> sometimes there are updates on the installer
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> I happened to need that back on gutsy
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> or was it feisty?
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> bah.. long time
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> got a crash with this updates
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> should I file it?
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> it was a kernel update crash
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> I guess I don't need to
[15:43] <BUGabundo_work> people don't do kernel updates on livecds/livepen
[15:43] <persia> There's always updates available pre-install : it's just that applying those updates won't mean that the install has the updates applied : one needs to apply them again.  Generally, it's easier to apply them only once post-install.
[15:44] <BUGabundo_work> and the installer window is a few pixeis bigger then the screen
[15:45] <BUGabundo_work> persia: playya should the swap go on the 4GBs SSD or the 16GBs?
[15:45] <playya> i don't use any
[15:45] <playya> ssd and swap = not a good idea
[15:45] <persia> I wouldn't recommend putting swap on an SSD.
[15:46] <persia> I'm a *huge* fan of swap, but for an SSD system, compcache is a better way to gain the advantages of swap.
[15:46] <BUGabundo_work> and does the system hibernate without it?
[15:47] <persia> Hmm.  That's an interesting question, as hibernate usually goes to a swap partition.
[15:47] <BUGabundo_work> yep
[15:47] <BUGabundo_work> that's why I askt
[15:48] <BUGabundo_work> what happens with your sustem playya?
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> I need an answer on this guys!
[15:49] <playya> i never hibernated my EEE before
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> can you do it?
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> right now?
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> please?
[15:49] <playya> maybe test it when I'm at home
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> preatty please?
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> with sugar on top?
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> ahhh
[15:49] <BUGabundo_work> I need to format the laptop now
[15:50] <BUGabundo_work> I'll have to leave work in an hour
[15:50] <BUGabundo_work> and the boss wants to take it home
[15:50] <playya> use swap.
[15:50] <playya> mom
[15:51] <playya> one second ;)
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> playya: ping
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> humm is he here still?
[15:52] <playya> no response in other channels :(
[15:52] <playya> i currently have a lesson
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> I'll go with swap
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> the laptop has 2GiBs
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> so 2.5Gbs should do it
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> I can remove it later from fstab
[15:53] <playya> or you test without a swap
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> but adding it would be much more work
[15:53] <playya> and resize later
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> too much work
[15:53] <persia> BUGabundo_work, Do be careful : swap on SSD might reduce the SSD lifetime.  Of course, this might be completely false : it's an unverified rumour.
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> removing is easier
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[15:54] <persia> Whether it's true probably depends as much on how the SSD is implemented as anything else.
[15:54] <BUGabundo_work> BHAAAAAAAAAA
[15:54] <BUGabundo_work> I can't quit the installer!
[16:24] <BUGabundo_work> xkill it!
[16:24] <BUGabundo_work> lolk