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uvirtbotNew bug: #294935 in bind9 (main) "apparmor error when logging to /var/log/named/" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29493500:31
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squee__Is it possible to install ubuntu-server remotely, doing nothing but putting in a stock ubuntu-server cd and maybe SSHing in?01:56
lukehasnonameI /think/ there is a way to set that up, but I don't think it's with a stock cd02:00
lukehasnonameI seem to remember a tutorial where someone spun a custom disk so that when it booted up, it listened for remote connections and you installed through remote X02:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #293993 in ebox (universe) "ebox will not install in 8.10 server - dependency problem (dup-of: 255368)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29399302:01
lukehasnonamehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation02:02
lukehasnonamesquee_02:03
lukehasnonamecheck that02:03
antdedyet!pae02:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pae02:38
antdedyet!RAM02:38
ubottuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html02:38
antdedyet!4GB02:38
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antdedyet!help02:39
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-server's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:39
Dominikanyone home?03:15
timrhi guys05:39
timris anybody in here?05:39
TIMREICHHhey guys05:53
TIMREICHHcould somebody tell me why im getting this error Fatal error: require_once05:53
TIMREICHHis this room alive?05:56
sorenTIMREICHH: It's called patience. Here.. Have some.06:06
sorenAlso, there's something called "context". Gimme, gimme.06:07
RamrunnerGood afternoon all07:05
andolRamrunner: Good morning07:05
RamrunnerI just did a server 8.04->8.10 upgrade and lost my internal net Outlook clients connectivity to dovecot. Running local Evolution on the server works fine07:06
Ramrunnerimap07:06
sorenHow do they fail?07:07
RamrunnerWith a wonderful Outlook error of "Cannot connect to server" :(07:07
sorenI can't work with that :)07:08
Ramrunnerin the mail log it says "ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=192.168.0.3, lip=192.168.0.10"07:08
Ramrunneras an example07:08
sorenWat kind of authentication are you using?07:08
soren"What", even.07:08
RamrunnerI believe it's standard PAM unless the upgrade changed that???07:09
sorenNo, I mean IMAP authentication.07:09
Ramrunnersorry - my bad - I'm allowing plain text passwords - is that what you mean?07:09
sorenYes.07:10
sorenCan you put your dovecot conf on pastebin? Be sure to weed out sensitive information, if any07:10
Ramrunnerno problem - except I'm new to IRC. How do I do that, is it easy to explain?07:11
Ramrunnerok wait - it's a web site07:13
sorenRight.07:13
RamrunnerDo I just paste my config into the web site and hit the button?07:13
sorenYes.07:14
sorenThat will give you an URL that you can post here.07:15
soren..and then I can go look at your config.07:15
Ramrunnerhttp://pastebin.com/m6738d77007:15
sorenRamrunner: It looks fine at a glance... Try cranking up the logging.07:18
sorenauth_debug, for instance.07:18
Ramrunnerok - here's a new snippet07:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:20:23 ubuntu dovecot: Killed with signal 1507:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:20:23 ubuntu dovecot: Dovecot v1.1.4 starting up07:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:20:24 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=1352107:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:20:24 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=1352207:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:20:24 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=1352007:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:21:13 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=192.168.0.3, lip=192.168.0.1007:22
RamrunnerNov  7 16:21:14 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=1352707:22
Ramrunnerthe ones that are working are the local evolution running07:22
Ramrunnerthe one at 16:21:13 is outlook trying to connect07:22
Ramrunneris there a set of telnet commands I can maybe try???07:23
Ramrunnerbetter idea - let me try windows mail from the same PC07:25
Ramrunnerbingo - more information!!!07:26
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RamrunnerYour IMAP server wishes to aleert you to the following:07:26
RamrunnerPlaintext authentication is disabled, but your client sent password in plaintext anyway07:27
Ramrunnerlet me check that damn config file again07:27
Ramrunnersweet as07:30
RamrunnerWhen the server upgraded - it honestly didn't work, and I couldn't get it to work.07:30
RamrunnerI copied the new config file, set my settings, but obviously mis-read the plaintext thing07:31
Ramrunnerthe default is yes to NOT allow plaint text.07:31
RamrunnerI feel like a dick - and I owe soren a beer07:32
Ramrunnersoren -you still there? I want to thank you07:33
sorenI'm here again now :)07:45
sorensorry for wandering off like that. I had something I needed to handle.07:45
Ramrunnerno problem - just wanted to thank you - i got it sorted in the end.07:47
RamrunnerPostfix is holding new messages now in a queue, which mailscanner is supposed to pick up and deliver, which isn't working any more but I'll sort that one out myself07:48
J-_What should I chown my /var/www to so user can write with root privileges via sftp? Is there anyway to get a prompt password when trying to add to a root protected directory like /var/www?12:15
J-_It looks like /var/www is owned by www-data for some reason.12:16
stkahi12:50
jgjonesJ-_, www-data - that's the process Apache2 runs as (so allows Apache access - usually I give group as www-data and on pages where apache2 need to edit (ie for Wordpress or other CMS) I give group write permission12:51
stkain ubuntu-server 8.10 is the dhcp3 and bind9 Sever linked against LDAP? In 8.04 they are not :-(12:52
J-_jgjones:  So, would sudo chown -R <user>:www-data /var/www be safe?12:55
J-_Currently I have Drupal installed. I gave up on Wordpress.12:55
jgjonesI don't change the permission of the /var/www directory itself12:55
J-_hmm12:56
jgjonesHowever on folders IN /var/www itself - I might have my own directory with my website in it - let's call it mysite - this would have user:group as me:www-data12:56
jgjonesme being me obviously :)12:56
J-_true12:57
* J-_ ponders12:57
jgjonesI give it group-write permission (so if I edit pages in Drupal/wordpress/whatever - Apache2 can write to there because it's www-data)12:57
jgjoneshope that made sense...not sure if I'm explaining it very well :)12:58
incidenceIs it possible to deny users removing ".bash_history" or can I log the history to another file too?13:43
sorenincidence: Anything like that can be easily circumvented.13:45
incidenceYea :/13:45
incidence"export histfile=/dev/null" etc13:45
sorenFor instance, yes.13:46
sorenOr start a different shell.13:46
incidenceYes. So the answer is no, for bash13:46
sorenWell, no.13:46
sorenNot if the question is: "Is it possible to deny users removing ".bash_history" or can I log the history to another file too?"13:47
incidenceI'd like to know what commands all users / certain users run. Any suggestions?13:48
sorenIt's the correct answer to the question: "Can I easily force any command a user runs to be logged somewhere where he can't delete it again?".13:48
incidenceYes.13:48
SqueakynebHeya14:00
Squeakynebhey cateye14:00
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_rubenbugger .. im pretty close to finishing up my pxe/tftp/http install rig .. if only my dhcp server cooperate14:09
slicslakin /var/log/messages i'm seeing -- MARK -- all over the place14:15
slicslakcan anyone tell me what this is?14:15
ScottKslicslak: It's just a period message to the log so you know logging is working even if there's nothing to log.  It's normal.14:16
ScottKperiod/periodic14:17
slicslakthanks14:17
_rubenfor some reason the pxe bootrom can get an ip just fine, but when the ubuntu installer kicks in and tries to get an ip everything goes to shit14:20
_rubenas in, the box keeps requesting and declining ips14:20
_rubenseems im being bitten by http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=47947314:37
uvirtbotDebian bug 479473 in dhcp3-client-udeb "debian-installer: DHCP client fails to assign address during install" [Normal,Open]14:37
slicslakin /var/log/messages, every day i see this line:  Nov  7 06:38:47 foo syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.14:45
slicslakwhat does this mean?  is ubuntu cron'd to restart every day?14:45
_rubenlogrotate14:45
slicslakoh14:45
_rubenafter rotating logfiles it restarts syslogd14:46
J-_If /var/www belongs to www-data, how can I add modules to drupal in /var/www/modules? Can I change ownership of /var/www/modules and still be safe, and make everything still work well?14:47
slicslakJ-_, set the group owner to a group that you and every web tech is in and make g+rwX for all your web files14:48
slicslak_ruben, where would i look for actual reboots?14:49
J-_How would I do that? I think someone told me a long time ago. But, I forget.14:49
slicslakrtfm chmod and chgrp14:49
J-_!rtfm14:50
ubottuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.14:50
slicslaklol, and here i thought i was being helpful14:50
slicslakhow do you know how to invoke the bot in the chanel but do not know how to chmod?  i wasn't being rude, i even gave you the syntax!14:50
J-_I hang out in other Ubuntu channels where ubottu is. And, I've been using Ubuntu for a few years. :)14:51
J-_3-4 years I suppose.14:51
slicslaknote the capital X in that chmod command, that makes directories readable but NOT files executable14:54
alekais the version of vim installed by default on the server ed not the full package?14:55
Gargoylewhats jfgi?14:55
slicslakthat's right14:55
slicslakaleka, updat apt first and then install vim14:55
alekaI am trying to enable syntax highlighting and trying to install the package: vim-full tries to install a bunch of Gnome-deps14:56
slicslakjust install vim, but you need to do a package update first14:56
alekaslicslak: Thanks14:56
_rubenslicslak: the 'last' command shows reboots14:56
slicslak_ruben, thanks.  it just shows the last reboot though.  i was more hoping for all reboots (and preferrably who invoked them).  i'm assuming it's somewhere in syslog....  just need the right grep14:57
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josh_does anyone have a samba gui suggestion?16:28
sommerjosh_: you might check out swat... it's a web config tool16:37
josh_i'm working with smbwebclient now. i was just wodering if anyone had a suggestion. i'll check it out16:38
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ScottKkirkland: Saw you blog post.  nixternal knows people who worked at the Obama headquarters and they told him it was Windows there.17:42
kirklandScottK: yeah, there seems to be a lot of 2nd hand information, much of it conflicting17:43
ScottKkirkland: You might want to follow up with nixternal then because he's at least in contact with someone who has first had info.17:44
kirklandScottK: thanks17:44
ScottKNo problem.17:45
lhnnWow, kirkland, nice Halloween costumes.17:49
kirklandlhnn: thanks ;-)  bsg fan?17:49
lhnnnot really, a few of my roommates like it, though.17:50
lhnnI would go as Data or something17:50
lhnnbut Sci Fi has to stick together17:51
lhnnI see KVM can do live migration!17:52
J-_Can anyone help me get PHPmailer working in Drupal on Ubuntu with gmail SMTP?18:11
J-_biggest pain in the arse. I can't seem to figure it out18:12
J-_I don't remember it being this hard before18:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #295293 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29529319:31
NineTeen67CometHay all, I built an Ubuntu server (8.04) a few months ago, and it has had a hard time staying up for more than a day or two. It simply locks up, there is no monitor or keyboard to it and my error logs say nothing unusual. Ideas on figuring it out?22:32
hadsSounds like a hardware problem22:33
NineTeen67CometThat's my fear =) .. All I need is another excuse to order some parts .. hehehe22:33
NineTeen67CometThat box was given to me because it would just go non responsive after a while (as a workstation)22:34
NineTeen67CometIt has some "unique" ram if I remember right too. Not something I want to mess with.22:34
NineTeen67CometI'll go dig it out and pull it apart. Thanks for the idea.22:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #289479 in openldap (main) "problems when trying to install packages: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/wallpaper-tray_0.4.6-5_i386.deb: files list file for package `libldap-2.4-2' is missing final newline" (dup-of: 108189)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28947922:42
mynousanyone in here that could help with server network troubles?23:07
kgoetz!ask mynous23:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ask mynous23:10
kgoetzbah.23:10
kgoetzmynous: just ask your question23:10
mynoussorry just seems dead in here always23:11
mynousim having problems with vsftpd making rtorrent uploads drop to almost zero when im transfering a file, even when the rate is limited. is this just a conflict of the 2 programs?23:12
mynousneither of them will come close to maxing their connection when running concurently either23:12
kgoetzhm. not seen a behavour like that before23:13
mynousanother strange coincidence is that rtorrent seems to be able to either "max" download or upload but one drops while the other goes up23:13
mynousthe server has a 10mb connection and when downloading files from it at 3-4mb i dont see a reason for rtorrent to stall to almost 0KB, i just cant think of what would need to be configured23:16
kgoetzi cant think of a reason either23:16
mynousdamn23:17
mynouscould it be that the harddrive just isnt fast enough?23:17
mynousi wouldnt think so because ive had it going at better than 60mbps at one point before configuring it for a 10mb connection23:18
mynousv23:25
mynousSettings for eth0:23:25
mynousSupported ports: [ TP MII ]23:25
mynousSupported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full23:25
mynous                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full23:25
mynousSupports auto-negotiation: Yes23:25
mynousAdvertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full23:25
mynous                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full23:25
mynousAdvertised auto-negotiation: No23:25
mynousSpeed: 10Mb/s23:25
mynousDuplex: Full23:25
mynousPort: MII23:25
mynousPHYAD: 123:25
mynousTransceiver: internal23:25
mynousAuto-negotiation: off23:25
mynousSupports Wake-on: pumbg23:25
mynousWake-on: d23:25
mynousCurrent message level: 0x00000001 (1)23:25
mynousLink detected: yes23:25
mynousdoes that look like its correctly set up? for some reason i think auto-neg should be on but i have no clue23:25

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