[01:56] <squee__> Is it possible to install ubuntu-server remotely, doing nothing but putting in a stock ubuntu-server cd and maybe SSHing in?
[02:00] <lukehasnoname> I /think/ there is a way to set that up, but I don't think it's with a stock cd
[02:01] <lukehasnoname> I seem to remember a tutorial where someone spun a custom disk so that when it booted up, it listened for remote connections and you installed through remote X
[02:02] <lukehasnoname> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[02:03] <lukehasnoname> squee_
[02:03] <lukehasnoname> check that
[02:38] <antdedyet> !pae
[02:38] <antdedyet> !RAM
[02:38] <antdedyet> !4GB
[02:39] <antdedyet> !help
[03:15] <Dominik> anyone home?
[05:39] <timr> hi guys
[05:39] <timr> is anybody in here?
[05:53] <TIMREICHH> hey guys
[05:53] <TIMREICHH> could somebody tell me why im getting this error Fatal error: require_once
[05:56] <TIMREICHH> is this room alive?
[06:06] <soren> TIMREICHH: It's called patience. Here.. Have some.
[06:07] <soren> Also, there's something called "context". Gimme, gimme.
[07:05] <Ramrunner> Good afternoon all
[07:05] <andol> Ramrunner: Good morning
[07:06] <Ramrunner> I just did a server 8.04->8.10 upgrade and lost my internal net Outlook clients connectivity to dovecot. Running local Evolution on the server works fine
[07:06] <Ramrunner> imap
[07:07] <soren> How do they fail?
[07:07] <Ramrunner> With a wonderful Outlook error of "Cannot connect to server" :(
[07:08] <soren> I can't work with that :)
[07:08] <Ramrunner> in the mail log it says "ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=192.168.0.3, lip=192.168.0.10"
[07:08] <Ramrunner> as an example
[07:08] <soren> Wat kind of authentication are you using?
[07:08] <soren> "What", even.
[07:09] <Ramrunner> I believe it's standard PAM unless the upgrade changed that???
[07:09] <soren> No, I mean IMAP authentication.
[07:09] <Ramrunner> sorry - my bad - I'm allowing plain text passwords - is that what you mean?
[07:10] <soren> Yes.
[07:10] <soren> Can you put your dovecot conf on pastebin? Be sure to weed out sensitive information, if any
[07:11] <Ramrunner> no problem - except I'm new to IRC. How do I do that, is it easy to explain?
[07:13] <Ramrunner> ok wait - it's a web site
[07:13] <soren> Right.
[07:13] <Ramrunner> Do I just paste my config into the web site and hit the button?
[07:14] <soren> Yes.
[07:15] <soren> That will give you an URL that you can post here.
[07:15] <soren> ..and then I can go look at your config.
[07:15] <Ramrunner> http://pastebin.com/m6738d770
[07:18] <soren> Ramrunner: It looks fine at a glance... Try cranking up the logging.
[07:18] <soren> auth_debug, for instance.
[07:22] <Ramrunner> ok - here's a new snippet
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:20:23 ubuntu dovecot: Killed with signal 15
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:20:23 ubuntu dovecot: Dovecot v1.1.4 starting up
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:20:24 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=13521
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:20:24 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=13522
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:20:24 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=13520
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:21:13 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=192.168.0.3, lip=192.168.0.10
[07:22] <Ramrunner> Nov  7 16:21:14 ubuntu dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=13527
[07:22] <Ramrunner> the ones that are working are the local evolution running
[07:22] <Ramrunner> the one at 16:21:13 is outlook trying to connect
[07:23] <Ramrunner> is there a set of telnet commands I can maybe try???
[07:25] <Ramrunner> better idea - let me try windows mail from the same PC
[07:26] <Ramrunner> bingo - more information!!!
[07:26] <Ramrunner> Your IMAP server wishes to aleert you to the following:
[07:27] <Ramrunner> Plaintext authentication is disabled, but your client sent password in plaintext anyway
[07:27] <Ramrunner> let me check that damn config file again
[07:30] <Ramrunner> sweet as
[07:30] <Ramrunner> When the server upgraded - it honestly didn't work, and I couldn't get it to work.
[07:31] <Ramrunner> I copied the new config file, set my settings, but obviously mis-read the plaintext thing
[07:31] <Ramrunner> the default is yes to NOT allow plaint text.
[07:32] <Ramrunner> I feel like a dick - and I owe soren a beer
[07:33] <Ramrunner> soren -you still there? I want to thank you
[07:45] <soren> I'm here again now :)
[07:45] <soren> sorry for wandering off like that. I had something I needed to handle.
[07:47] <Ramrunner> no problem - just wanted to thank you - i got it sorted in the end.
[07:48] <Ramrunner> Postfix is holding new messages now in a queue, which mailscanner is supposed to pick up and deliver, which isn't working any more but I'll sort that one out myself
[12:15] <J-_> What should I chown my /var/www to so user can write with root privileges via sftp? Is there anyway to get a prompt password when trying to add to a root protected directory like /var/www?
[12:16] <J-_> It looks like /var/www is owned by www-data for some reason.
[12:50] <stka> hi
[12:51] <jgjones> J-_, www-data - that's the process Apache2 runs as (so allows Apache access - usually I give group as www-data and on pages where apache2 need to edit (ie for Wordpress or other CMS) I give group write permission
[12:52] <stka> in ubuntu-server 8.10 is the dhcp3 and bind9 Sever linked against LDAP? In 8.04 they are not :-(
[12:55] <J-_> jgjones:  So, would sudo chown -R <user>:www-data /var/www be safe?
[12:55] <J-_> Currently I have Drupal installed. I gave up on Wordpress.
[12:55] <jgjones> I don't change the permission of the /var/www directory itself
[12:56] <J-_> hmm
[12:56] <jgjones> However on folders IN /var/www itself - I might have my own directory with my website in it - let's call it mysite - this would have user:group as me:www-data
[12:56] <jgjones> me being me obviously :)
[12:57] <J-_> true
[12:57]  * J-_ ponders
[12:57] <jgjones> I give it group-write permission (so if I edit pages in Drupal/wordpress/whatever - Apache2 can write to there because it's www-data)
[12:58] <jgjones> hope that made sense...not sure if I'm explaining it very well :)
[13:43] <incidence> Is it possible to deny users removing ".bash_history" or can I log the history to another file too?
[13:45] <soren> incidence: Anything like that can be easily circumvented.
[13:45] <incidence> Yea :/
[13:45] <incidence> "export histfile=/dev/null" etc
[13:46] <soren> For instance, yes.
[13:46] <soren> Or start a different shell.
[13:46] <incidence> Yes. So the answer is no, for bash
[13:46] <soren> Well, no.
[13:47] <soren> Not if the question is: "Is it possible to deny users removing ".bash_history" or can I log the history to another file too?"
[13:48] <incidence> I'd like to know what commands all users / certain users run. Any suggestions?
[13:48] <soren> It's the correct answer to the question: "Can I easily force any command a user runs to be logged somewhere where he can't delete it again?".
[13:48] <incidence> Yes.
[14:00] <Squeakyneb> Heya
[14:00] <Squeakyneb> hey cateye
[14:09] <_ruben> bugger .. im pretty close to finishing up my pxe/tftp/http install rig .. if only my dhcp server cooperate
[14:15] <slicslak> in /var/log/messages i'm seeing -- MARK -- all over the place
[14:15] <slicslak> can anyone tell me what this is?
[14:16] <ScottK> slicslak: It's just a period message to the log so you know logging is working even if there's nothing to log.  It's normal.
[14:17] <ScottK> period/periodic
[14:17] <slicslak> thanks
[14:20] <_ruben> for some reason the pxe bootrom can get an ip just fine, but when the ubuntu installer kicks in and tries to get an ip everything goes to shit
[14:20] <_ruben> as in, the box keeps requesting and declining ips
[14:37] <_ruben> seems im being bitten by http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=479473
[14:45] <slicslak> in /var/log/messages, every day i see this line:  Nov  7 06:38:47 foo syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
[14:45] <slicslak> what does this mean?  is ubuntu cron'd to restart every day?
[14:45] <_ruben> logrotate
[14:45] <slicslak> oh
[14:46] <_ruben> after rotating logfiles it restarts syslogd
[14:47] <J-_> If /var/www belongs to www-data, how can I add modules to drupal in /var/www/modules? Can I change ownership of /var/www/modules and still be safe, and make everything still work well?
[14:48] <slicslak> J-_, set the group owner to a group that you and every web tech is in and make g+rwX for all your web files
[14:49] <slicslak> _ruben, where would i look for actual reboots?
[14:49] <J-_> How would I do that? I think someone told me a long time ago. But, I forget.
[14:49] <slicslak> rtfm chmod and chgrp
[14:50] <J-_> !rtfm
[14:50] <slicslak> lol, and here i thought i was being helpful
[14:50] <slicslak> how do you know how to invoke the bot in the chanel but do not know how to chmod?  i wasn't being rude, i even gave you the syntax!
[14:51] <J-_> I hang out in other Ubuntu channels where ubottu is. And, I've been using Ubuntu for a few years. :)
[14:51] <J-_> 3-4 years I suppose.
[14:54] <slicslak> note the capital X in that chmod command, that makes directories readable but NOT files executable
[14:55] <aleka> is the version of vim installed by default on the server ed not the full package?
[14:55] <Gargoyle> whats jfgi?
[14:55] <slicslak> that's right
[14:55] <slicslak> aleka, updat apt first and then install vim
[14:56] <aleka> I am trying to enable syntax highlighting and trying to install the package: vim-full tries to install a bunch of Gnome-deps
[14:56] <slicslak> just install vim, but you need to do a package update first
[14:56] <aleka> slicslak: Thanks
[14:56] <_ruben> slicslak: the 'last' command shows reboots
[14:57] <slicslak> _ruben, thanks.  it just shows the last reboot though.  i was more hoping for all reboots (and preferrably who invoked them).  i'm assuming it's somewhere in syslog....  just need the right grep
[16:28] <josh_> does anyone have a samba gui suggestion?
[16:37] <sommer> josh_: you might check out swat... it's a web config tool
[16:38] <josh_> i'm working with smbwebclient now. i was just wodering if anyone had a suggestion. i'll check it out
[17:42] <ScottK> kirkland: Saw you blog post.  nixternal knows people who worked at the Obama headquarters and they told him it was Windows there.
[17:43] <kirkland> ScottK: yeah, there seems to be a lot of 2nd hand information, much of it conflicting
[17:44] <ScottK> kirkland: You might want to follow up with nixternal then because he's at least in contact with someone who has first had info.
[17:44] <kirkland> ScottK: thanks
[17:45] <ScottK> No problem.
[17:49] <lhnn> Wow, kirkland, nice Halloween costumes.
[17:49] <kirkland> lhnn: thanks ;-)  bsg fan?
[17:50] <lhnn> not really, a few of my roommates like it, though.
[17:50] <lhnn> I would go as Data or something
[17:51] <lhnn> but Sci Fi has to stick together
[17:52] <lhnn> I see KVM can do live migration!
[18:11] <J-_> Can anyone help me get PHPmailer working in Drupal on Ubuntu with gmail SMTP?
[18:12] <J-_> biggest pain in the arse. I can't seem to figure it out
[18:12] <J-_> I don't remember it being this hard before
[22:32] <NineTeen67Comet> Hay all, I built an Ubuntu server (8.04) a few months ago, and it has had a hard time staying up for more than a day or two. It simply locks up, there is no monitor or keyboard to it and my error logs say nothing unusual. Ideas on figuring it out?
[22:33] <hads> Sounds like a hardware problem
[22:33] <NineTeen67Comet> That's my fear =) .. All I need is another excuse to order some parts .. hehehe
[22:34] <NineTeen67Comet> That box was given to me because it would just go non responsive after a while (as a workstation)
[22:34] <NineTeen67Comet> It has some "unique" ram if I remember right too. Not something I want to mess with.
[22:35] <NineTeen67Comet> I'll go dig it out and pull it apart. Thanks for the idea.
[23:07] <mynous> anyone in here that could help with server network troubles?
[23:10] <kgoetz> !ask mynous
[23:10] <kgoetz> bah.
[23:10] <kgoetz> mynous: just ask your question
[23:11] <mynous> sorry just seems dead in here always
[23:12] <mynous> im having problems with vsftpd making rtorrent uploads drop to almost zero when im transfering a file, even when the rate is limited. is this just a conflict of the 2 programs?
[23:12] <mynous> neither of them will come close to maxing their connection when running concurently either
[23:13] <kgoetz> hm. not seen a behavour like that before
[23:13] <mynous> another strange coincidence is that rtorrent seems to be able to either "max" download or upload but one drops while the other goes up
[23:16] <mynous> the server has a 10mb connection and when downloading files from it at 3-4mb i dont see a reason for rtorrent to stall to almost 0KB, i just cant think of what would need to be configured
[23:16] <kgoetz> i cant think of a reason either
[23:17] <mynous> damn
[23:17] <mynous> could it be that the harddrive just isnt fast enough?
[23:18] <mynous> i wouldnt think so because ive had it going at better than 60mbps at one point before configuring it for a 10mb connection
[23:25] <mynous> v
[23:25] <mynous> Settings for eth0:
[23:25] <mynous> 	Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
[23:25] <mynous> 	Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[23:25] <mynous> 	                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[23:25] <mynous> 	Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
[23:25] <mynous> 	Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[23:25] <mynous> 	                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[23:25] <mynous> 	Advertised auto-negotiation: No
[23:25] <mynous> 	Speed: 10Mb/s
[23:25] <mynous> 	Duplex: Full
[23:25] <mynous> 	Port: MII
[23:25] <mynous> 	PHYAD: 1
[23:25] <mynous> 	Transceiver: internal
[23:25] <mynous> 	Auto-negotiation: off
[23:25] <mynous> 	Supports Wake-on: pumbg
[23:25] <mynous> 	Wake-on: d
[23:25] <mynous> 	Current message level: 0x00000001 (1)
[23:25] <mynous> 	Link detected: yes
[23:25] <mynous> does that look like its correctly set up? for some reason i think auto-neg should be on but i have no clue