[09:37]  * bryce spams launchpad
[09:50] <tjaalton> noted :)
[10:30] <wgrant> bryce: Shouldn't you be asking people to try with Intrepid?
[10:30] <wgrant> bryce: Development ISOs aren't likely to be very good right now.
[10:33] <tjaalton> and no x related updates there either
[10:34] <tjaalton> but maybe it'll take 1-2 months for the people to test, so then there'll be some alpha available .)
[10:34] <tjaalton> :)
[10:43] <wgrant> Heh.
[10:55] <wgrant> Ohhhh.
[10:55] <wgrant> Damn tablets.
[10:56] <wgrant> Damn users, too.
[10:56] <wgrant> It seems that the Synaptics stuff to gnome-settings-daemon
[10:56] <wgrant> Bah.
[10:57] <wgrant> it seems that the Synaptics stuff in gnome-settings-daemon causes a DevicePresenceNotify storm when there's a bad Wacom device entry.
[10:58] <wgrant> Probably because it initially tries to set the properties on startup, so tries to open the device, which causes X to look for it again, which causes it to send a DevicePresenceNotify, because the device didn't previously exist because /dev/input/wacom doesn't exist.
[10:58] <wgrant> Meanwhile the device has already disappeared again, so the device open attempt brings it back.
[10:59] <wgrant> Also filling Xorg.0.log very, very quickly.
[11:04] <tjaalton> hehe
[11:18] <wgrant> At least I can reproduce it now.
[11:44] <tseliot> jcristau: I'm trying to compile a small program which uses xcb but I'm getting an error. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/d42d7a6ea
[11:51] <wgrant> tseliot: libxcb-randr is a separate lib with a separate .pc
[11:51] <wgrant> xcb-randr, unsurprisingly enough.
[11:52] <tseliot> wgrant: ah, right
[11:53] <tseliot>  gcc -Wall xrandr-xcb.c -o xrandr-xcb `pkg-config --cflags --libs xcb-renderutil xcb-randr xcb-aux` did it
[11:53] <wgrant> Excellent.
[11:53]  * wgrant also seems to have solved that g-s-d bug.
[11:54] <tseliot> \o/
[11:54] <wgrant> DeviceEnabled vs. DeviceAdded isn't well documented, except in the server code.
[12:16] <wgrant> tseliot: Is Envy still meant to be used on Intrepid?
[12:17] <tseliot> wgrant: envyng-core and envyng-qt
[12:18] <wgrant> tseliot: OK, so that would be a yes. Thanks.
[12:18] <tseliot> yes
[17:09] <sbeattie> bryce: are you auto-spamming bugs now? I hardly think I need to provide lspci info for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-utils/+bug/274266 a bug in a manpage
[17:28] <jcristau> sbeattie: care to write a patch for the manpage?
[17:35] <bryce> sbeattie: yes I'm auto-spamming
[22:51] <rzr> hi
[22:52] <wgrant> Hi rzr.
[22:53] <rzr> is ~tormodvolden here sometimes ?
[22:54] <wgrant> I've not seen him speaking, but he might lurk.
[22:54] <rzr> under which nickname ?
[22:58] <wgrant> I have no clue.
[22:58] <wgrant> rzr: ^^
[22:59] <rzr> thx anyway
[23:00] <tjaalton> rzr: 'tormod'
[23:01] <rzr> oki makes sense
[23:12] <bryce_> heya
[23:17] <wgrant> Hi bryce_. You had a lot of fun spamming, I see
[23:21] <bryce_> wgrant: I did
[23:21] <bryce_> so far managed to get a few dozen confirmations of bugs fixed too
[23:22] <bryce_> well, fixed or hw no longer available
[23:22] <wgrant> And I finally got something more useful than "me too" out of people experiencing that damn g-s-d issue. It's like users are deliberately blocking it.
[23:22] <wgrant> Right, I closed a couple this morning as well.
[23:22] <wgrant> And in 60 days you can close lots more!
[23:22] <bryce_> yep
[23:22] <bryce_> I didn't keep a precise count, but there were over 400 New bugs moved to Incomplete
[23:22] <wgrant> Oh, nice.
[23:23] <wgrant> I just noticed my bugs/x folder rapidly approaching my bugs folder in number of messages.
[23:27] <bryce_> wgrant: let me run this next idea past you
[23:28] <bryce_> what do you think of this.  the next launchpad spam idea I have is to automatically move New bugs with Xorg.0.log + lspci, or Xorg.0.log + backtrace -> Confirmed
[23:28] <wgrant> bryce_: I think a tag might be better for that.
[23:30] <bryce_> I could tag them as well, but the point is to get them out of New state.
[23:30] <wgrant> Hmm, good point.
[23:31] <wgrant> I guess moving to Confirmed automatically and Triaged manually would be a reasonable workaround.
[23:31] <wgrant> So that would work.
[23:32]  * bryce_ nods
[23:34] <bryce_> ok, switching to my other wireless ap.  brb
[23:34] <wgrant> For fixing a regression in -proposed, do I attach the debdiff to the original or regression bug?
[23:48] <wgrant> 10:34:11 < wgrant> For fixing a regression in -proposed, do I attach the debdiff to the original or regression bug?
[23:49] <bryce> the regression bug
[23:49] <wgrant> Great, thanks.
[23:49] <bryce> well, either is probably fine
[23:50] <bryce> I'd do the regression bug though.  easier to track.  Cross reference them for the release manager's convenience.
[23:50] <wgrant> Yep.