[00:00] <noksious> jgoguen,  Linux rootbox 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[00:00] <mhall119> noksious: amsn might work for msn
[00:00] <DeviantSOP> noksious: try emesene or amsn for msn
[00:00] <streenz> is there any way to "reset" the ALSA sound driver? I have an app where every so often when its running, it messes up the sound and I'm told "Device is being used by another application"  but I hear nothing
[00:00] <noksious> DeviantSOP, i tryed everything i need yahoo msn :|
[00:00] <cs_student> Ok, sorry I have to ask again.  How do I upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 (I saw something about going o system-> software sources, but it got cut off do to all the disconnections)
[00:00] <lavacano201014> cs_student: You mean from 8.04 to 8.10?
[00:01] <cs_student> Yea, sorry
[00:01] <zsquareplusc> cs_student: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[00:01] <mhall119> cs_student: System-Administration->Software Sources
[00:01] <jgoguen> noksious: download and install this package: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openssl096/libssl0.9.6_0.9.6m-1_i386.deb
[00:01] <lavacano201014> cs_student: No wait, I misread, that was right
[00:01] <DeviantSOP> noksious: you tried emesene? cos its a dediated msn client with voice and video iirc
[00:01] <Mias> ooh it seems to be doing something hrh
[00:01] <X4D-> mhall119: I get an error after trying to change the password of the second user... "machine 127.0... rejected the password change for user1"
[00:01] <kylepike> cs_student, under there go to the updates tab, and select Normal releases
[00:01] <DarkKnight>  i installed kde and then i uninstalled it....now with gdm....my desktop resolution is 640 X 480.....and my screen appears very large....i dont get any other resolution now....wat do i do
[00:01] <mhall119> hmm, what?
[00:02] <nsabatino> has anyone heard of any major xserver fuckups during 8.04 -> 8.10?
[00:02] <kylepike> cs_student, then re-run the updates manager you should see it ask you if you want to upgrade
[00:02] <abe> ITT: mounting, I have been using startx to start me system and my other hard drives don't show up in /media how can I fix this?
[00:02] <lavacano201014> cs_student: If you installed Fluxbox or something (I use AfterStep) you *could* do "sudo apt-get distupgrade", once all the updating is done
[00:02] <kitche> !languager | nsabatino
[00:02] <mhall119> X4D-: are you running this on the linux box or the OSX one?
[00:02] <kitche> !language >  nsabatino
[00:02] <noksious> jgoguen, done isntalled
[00:02] <X4D-> mhall119: linux
[00:02] <jgoguen> noksious: now try Y! Messenger
[00:02] <noksious> jgoguen, hmm lol now i have the error : Dependency is not satisfiable : xlibs
[00:02] <mhall119> X4D-: what are the user accounts on the linux box?
[00:02] <noksious> omg i need xlibs now
[00:03] <DarkKnight>  i installed kde and then i uninstalled it....now with gdm....my desktop resolution is 640 X 480.....and my screen appears very large....i dont get any other resolution now....wat do i do
[00:03] <kitche> nsabatino: some peopel have had a hard time with X yes
[00:03] <lavacano201014> DarkKnight: You said that
[00:03] <jesselucas> in a bash script how can I prompt for a password. I am running a remote command through ssh on a server and need to change to sudo and want to pause the script and allow the password to be entered.
[00:03] <wolfwalker> Okay, why is it when I boot 8.10 from cd it freezes at the first load screen (that bar translucent bar with an orange bar bouncing back and forth) but ONLY when I don't have quiet splash turned off?
[00:03] <lavacano201014> There was an ubottu command for that, but I forgot what it was
[00:03] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Which ubuntu version?
[00:03] <jesselucas> like this ssh -fCT user@server "sudo -i;"
[00:03] <noksious> jgoguen, i need xlobs now :|
[00:03] <DarkKnight> mldnlght; hardy
[00:03] <X4D-> mhall119: user1 and user2, they match on the server and in smbpasswd accounts
[00:04] <mhall119> wolfwalker: sounds like it's crashing during mode changes
[00:04] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight, If you run "gksu displayconfig-gtk"
[00:04] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight, Can you change your resolution there?
[00:04] <mhall119> X4D-: I have no idea then
[00:04] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; hardy
[00:04] <wolfwalker> mhall119 So the only thing to do is boot without splash and quiet every time?
[00:04] <joat1> @i installed 8.10 today and I cant get the network connections going.  can anyone help me
[00:04] <kylepike> X4D-, you have them both listed as valid users in smb.conf as able to view the share?
[00:05] <X4D-> mhall119: thanks anyways for trying
[00:05] <WelshDragon> \o/
[00:05] <jgoguen> noksious: give me a second to look
[00:05] <mhall119> wolfwalker: I had a similar issues with an imbedded geforece2 chipset, and it would hang at other times when changing resolutions
[00:05] <noksious> jgoguen, ok..
[00:05] <lavacano201014> wolfwalker: OK, with quiet splash on, try going to <CTRL> + <ALT> + <F1> before the point of the crash
[00:05] <noksious> jgoguen, btw.. thank you for helping me bro
[00:05] <X4D-> kylepike: yes, user1 has read & write while I've given only read to user2
[00:05] <kylepike> X4D, tail their smb log when they try and connect
[00:05] <jgoguen> noksious: try this command - sudo aptitude install xlibs-data
[00:05] <lavacano201014> wolfwalker: It will give you information on what it's doing this way, then you can read any error messages that pop up
[00:05] <be_original> hey guts, i am trying to install ubunt for the first time on my notebook but i have problems can someone help me?
[00:05] <noksious> jgoguen, ok wait
[00:06] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Did that command work?
[00:06] <jgoguen> noksious: no problem...these things can be frustrating
[00:06] <m1dn1ght> be_original: what's the problem?
[00:06] <lavacano201014> be_original: State your problems, and someone who can solve them will help you out
[00:06] <DeviantSOP> be_original: tell us what probnlems you are encountering
[00:06] <abe> ITT: mounting, I have been using startx to start me system and my other hard drives don't show up in /media how can I fix this?
[00:06] <X4D-> kylepike: there's no problem in sharing with user1, everything mounts just perfect, ok I'll try looking at the log
[00:06] <fprintf> Anyone know the best way to update ubuntu-studio to intrepid ibex without doing clean install?
[00:06] <DeviantSOP> *problems
[00:06] <kylepike> X4D-, is it the users home dir?
[00:06] <alec> im tring to install a ubuntu to run portably off of a flash drive, im stuck installing through the emulator, any advise
[00:06] <noksious> jgoguen, done installed sudo aptitude install xlibs-data but still have the same error :|
[00:06] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; ya it worked...though i get many resolutions...i m unable 2 know which suits the best
[00:06] <jdautz> fprintf, with synaptic or update-manager?
[00:07] <lavacano201014> abe: For gnome, there was something you started for automounts, I rigged it to start in AfterStep. I can't remember it
[00:07] <name_name> opps
[00:07] <fprintf> jdautz, I tried that on my laptop and it gave me all sorts of panic errors. I ended up reinstalling from scratch, I'd like to not repeat that with this desktop!  :-)
[00:07] <lavacano201014> like /usr/sbin/gnome-volume-manager or something
[00:07] <X4D-> kylepike: no, it's a folder that has the owner as user1 and user2 belongs to the group I set up so it can read and write
[00:07] <name_name> yeah, the reason is don't start normal is it says "no resume image"
[00:07] <lavacano201014> But it wasn't in sbin...
[00:07] <name_name> is weird
[00:07] <X4D-> I haven't actually tried to connect to the home of user2
[00:08] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Depends on the size of your monitor.  Is it a notebook or a normal PC?  Probably just worth trial and error.
[00:08] <DeviantSOP> name_name: you want your drives to automount when you start up?
[00:08] <name_name> yup
[00:08] <jaggz-> I broke my openoffice dependencies or something -- how can I fix it?
[00:08] <jdautz> fprintf, it's better to have --ubuntu-desktop installed
[00:08] <lavacano201014> name_name: That should be a problem unless you were trying to get back from Hibernate...
[00:08] <DarkKnight> m1dnlght; PC
[00:08] <luddite1> i cant print anything to landscape PDF
[00:08] <kylepike> X4D-, so user2 belongs to user1's group? and you ran chmod g+rw on that folder?
[00:08] <DeviantSOP> name_name: just add the corresponding entries in /etc/fstab
[00:08] <jgoguen> noksious: OK, let's see if aptitude can figure it all out from the Yahoo package...do you know where you saved the package?
[00:08] <luddite1> always turns out landscap but on portrait
[00:08] <noksious> jgoguen, what package ?
[00:08] <lavacano201014> jaggz-: Remove the broken packages and reinstall them
[00:08] <noksious> jgoguen,  the ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb ?
[00:08] <fprintf> jdautz, so use synaptic or apt-get to install ubuntu-desktop first, then do the upgrade?
[00:08] <jgoguen> noksious:  right
[00:08] <be_original> when i load disc it starts booting and everything is ok until i clik 'install ubuntu' then it tries to load but in one moment the screen freezes and thats all, i must restart notebook
[00:09] <jaggz-> how do I know what's broken?
[00:09] <name_name> lol /etc/fstab only has my CD/DVD drives in it
[00:09] <noksious> jgoguen, on desktop
[00:09] <jdautz> fprintf, ubuntustudio-desktop
[00:09] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight  Maybe 1280x1024?  Like I said, it's a matter of preference
[00:09] <X4D-> kylepike: user1 and user2 belong to group users which is the group of the share, which has 750 as the permissions
[00:09] <lavacano201014> noksious: You can install that package with "dpkg -i /path/to/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb"
[00:09] <name_name> how would I add them, it look complex
[00:09] <wolfwalker> lavacano201014 when I ctrl alt F1 it starts up normally.  I started it just as usual, with the splash screen and everything, but apparently the splash screen is the only thing that makes it hang.
[00:09] <noksious> lavacano201014, how u mean path to ?
[00:09] <lavacano201014> wolfwalker: Hmm. Guess your splash screen data is messed up.
[00:10] <lavacano201014> noksious: You say it's on the Desktop?
[00:10] <noksious> yes
[00:10] <wolfwalker> If I take quiet splash out of the command, it boots fine.  If I start normally and then ctrl alt F1 it boots fine.
[00:10] <noksious> give me example what to write..
[00:10] <be_original> when i load disc it starts booting and everything is ok until i clik 'install ubuntu' then it tries to load but in one moment the screen freezes and thats all, i must restart notebook
[00:10] <noksious> i dunno what to write in path
[00:10] <wolfwalker> lavacano201014 It only hangs on this one Gateway laptop though.
[00:10] <lavacano201014> So then the path to would be /home/noksious/Desktop/ymessenger_etc_etc.deb
[00:10] <m1dn1ght> be_original: before you hit enter on "install ubuntu" try hitting F6 and adding the following to the string:  noapic acpi=off
[00:10] <fprintf> jdautz, alright I will give that a try when I get the courage up!  I spent 8 hours last friday reinstalling on my laptop, I hope not to repeat that process!
[00:10] <noksious> ok lets try
[00:10] <wolfwalker> When I boot on any other computer it runs fine.  Slow, but fine.
[00:10] <noksious> lavacano201014, error : dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[00:10] <lavacano201014> wolfwalker: Could be the file is goofy only on that one Gateway, or your Gateway lacks some sort of power
[00:11] <be_original> thabks man
[00:11] <lavacano201014> noksious: Put "sudo" at the beginning of that command
[00:11] <be_original> ill try it
[00:11] <m1dn1ght> be_original: good luck
[00:11] <name_name> how I shot fstab???
[00:12] <kylepike> X4D-, pastebin that part of your smb.conf for that share. and do.... ls -al of that share... and cat /etc/group | grep thegroup_theyboth are in.
[00:12] <noksious> wait let me paste u
[00:12] <noksious> lavacano201014, look http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/68626/
[00:13] <DeviantSOP> name_name: what is the partition name fo the drive you want to automount and what filesystem is it?
[00:13] <vonderer> is there any way to run gnome, but to use fluxbox instead of metacity?
[00:13] <jgoguen> noksious: sudo aptitude install libgdk-pixbuf2 xlibs
[00:13] <Sajuta> noksious: Apparently the username was bad. Your nick here and your username on the computer are different.
[00:14] <lavacano201014> noksious: Do what jgoguen said, then try again
[00:14]  * lavacano201014 will go away for a bit, meanwhile
[00:14] <Dragon_CS> @I installed 8.10 earlier today and I cant get the networking to funtion.  can anyone help me get it working
[00:14] <noksious> jgoguen, done.. installed.. but the same error again.. :|
[00:14] <jgoguen> Sajuta: the prompt suggests his username is the same as his IRC nick
[00:14] <DeviantSOP> Dragon_CS: what is your wireless chipset?
[00:14] <Dragon_CS> broadcom
[00:15] <noksious> jgoguen,  the username is " noxious " its ok i make that
[00:15] <noksious> but.. the same error :|
[00:15] <jgoguen> noksious: pastebin the output from the command I got you to run please
[00:15] <name_name> DeviantSOP: http://i36.tinypic.com/rconlg.png those are the all the filesystems, but only the optic drives and filesystem mount
[00:15] <Dragon_CS> deviantsop: broadcom
[00:15] <noksious> jgoguen, i dont understand u
[00:15] <noksious> ok from the xlibs
[00:15] <noksious> wait
[00:16] <ferfactor> any body here know haw i can put a video like a wallpaper?
[00:16] <noksious> jgoguen, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/68629/
[00:16] <Myrtti>  /lastlog noksious
[00:16] <Myrtti> damnit
[00:16] <name_name> DeviantSOP: aka external hdd, 2x sata drives, and a windows partition (it's on 5 gigs, I hates vista)
[00:17] <name_name> DeviantSOP: when I right click and mount nothing happens
[00:17] <Tremitos> I'll find out
[00:17] <genii> ferfactor: If running compiz:  http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/09/14/animated-wallpaper-with-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu/
[00:17] <noksious> jgoguen, dude look " http://79.126.193.108/xlibs.jpg "
[00:18] <ferfactor> genii, thanks men
[00:18] <genii> ferfactor: np
[00:18] <smalleyes> iPod users: what ubuntu 8.10 program do you use to manage your ipod?
[00:18] <Borbus> I have a strange problem: I upgraded to 8.10.. now gnome stuff can't seem to use the sound card.. but VLC player works fine
[00:18] <DeviantSOP> name_name: fdisk -l , paste the output
[00:19] <jgoguen> noksious: OK, so it seems that xlibs isn't a valid package for Gutsy...let me see if I can find it for you somewhere else
[00:19] <qpdb> do i need a boot partition for every ubuntu installation? or can two or more ubuntu installations share one single boot partition?
[00:19] <DeviantSOP> Dragon_CS: start the restricted driver manager/joackey and select th b43 driver
[00:19] <noksious> jgoguen, damn.. :| ok thx.. plz help me...
[00:19] <jdautz> qpdb, yes
[00:19] <be_original> hey man, the string did not help..
[00:20] <Pici> !xlibs | noksious
[00:20] <name_name> DeviantSOP: http://pastebin.com/m6495768
[00:20] <qpdb> jdautz yes what? this was a question with "or" =)
[00:20] <jdautz> qpdb, many os, one boot, one grub
[00:20] <qpdb> jdautz ok, thanks ;)
[00:20] <m1dn1ght> be_original: where exactly is it freezing?  how far along are you getting?
[00:20] <jgoguen> noksious: try this - sudo aptitude install xorg-dev
[00:21] <Doc8404> /join ##electronics
[00:21] <name_name> DeviantSOP: btw before I had to start the system with startx all the mounts worked fine
[00:21] <noksious> jgoguen, done installed
[00:21] <DarkKnight> m1dnight; any idea how to restore the system
[00:21] <DeviantSOP> name_name: try sudo fdisk -l
[00:21] <noksious> jgoguen, damn the same error :| need xlibs
[00:21] <be_original> it stops after i hit 'install ubuntu' when the loading bar is going left and right :D, i really dont know how to explain it on english better:D
[00:21] <DeviantSOP> name_name: try sudo fdisk -l and paste the output
[00:22] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: boot into safe mode and reconfigure the x server?
[00:22] <loquitus_of_bor1> Anybody know how to resolve this compiler issue (which came up when I updated my Ubuntu): /usr/include/boost/gil/algorithm.hpp:108: error: ‘bad_cast’ is not a member of ‘std’
[00:22] <thomc> Anyone have any experience of using the nvidia 8400gs under ubuntu?
[00:22] <m1dn1ght> be_original: I would suggest trying the alternative install cd.
[00:22] <anarcat> hi
[00:22] <X4D-> kylepike: http://pastebin.com/d1d12292a here's the info you asked for
[00:22] <be_original> you think alternative as older version or?
[00:23] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; i m a newbie 2 linux...do i boot to safe mode and how do i configure xserver
[00:23] <anarcat> i'm having issues with a RTL8180L wireless card since my upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[00:23] <anarcat> no driver seems to be loaded for the card and i can't find which driver it is
[00:23] <cars__> Something seems to be wrong with my partition.  I reinstalled xubuntu and used a separate partition for /home, but despite there being enough space (there should be 15GB available - 46GB volume, 30GB used), it only displays 2.6MB free.  Is my partition corrupt?
[00:23] <anarcat> google yields some hits but they lead to the forum, which is down for maintenance
[00:23] <anarcat> and i can't find the post where the answer is supposedly: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3675545*
[00:23] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: When you start the boot, does it give you a countdown and the opportunity to press escape to enter grub menu?
[00:23] <noksious> jgoguen, here ?
[00:24] <jpastore> so the upgrade to 8.10 didn't go so well. it aborted. I'm afraid to reboot because it said my system might be unstable....what should I do?
[00:24] <sysdoc> Can you get vmware server from add remove apps?
[00:24] <name_name> DeviantSOP: new pastebin http://pastebin.com/m1dcee0e1
[00:24] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; ya
[00:24] <X4D-> kylepike: I was just thinking... shouldn't the list of users appear in pdbedit -Lw since I'm using tdbsam backend? becuase I just tried it and there's none although I can log in using the user1 account
[00:24] <jgoguen> noksious: it looks like the xlibs package got changed to a package called 'xlibs-dev', which means Yahoo Messenger probably won't realize that you have it installed, even though you probably have exactly what it wants
[00:24] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Press esc, go into grub.  the second item down should be safe mode.  it will boot and once it get's further a long it will put you in a menu where one of the options will be to reconfigure the x server - should be an automatic process from there.
[00:24] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; i wanted 2 restore my system back 2 some particular time....will that be possible
[00:25] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Oh - sorry - thought you were talking about restoring your screen resolution
[00:25] <noksious> jgoguen, .. damn what to do now ?
[00:25] <name_name> DeviantSOP: new pastebin http://pastebin.com/m1dcee0e1
[00:25] <X4D-> kylepike: also I removed libpam-smbpass because it was causing some issues where it would change the passwords at restart to the server account passwords
[00:25] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Yeah - that's a whole different kettle of fish.  Did you create a backup to restore from?
[00:25] <sysdoc> jpastore, did you try running the upgrade again?
[00:25] <be_original> and can you tell me which version is older than 8.1? sorry 4 beeing boring :D
[00:25] <billybigrigger_> does compiz have a crash log?
[00:25] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; no...
[00:25] <jgoguen> noksious: I'll look a little more, but supposedly Kopete works and might support microphone and webcam...I don't know for sure, but Google thinks so
[00:25] <sysdoc> billybigrigger, yes
[00:25] <jpastore> sysdoc, yes...it says my system is up to date.
[00:25] <m1dn1ght> be_original: the alternative cd can sometimes work better on less compatible hardware
[00:25] <ironmedic> hi guys, i tried to get my resolution above 800 but nothing is working? i tried to edit the xorg.conf file but it didnt work. i even added useedid and it didnt work right.
[00:26] <DeviantSOP> name_name: so you want to mount all the drives, right?
[00:26] <name_name> yup
[00:26] <Beachside> hey, I've just put 8.10 on a persistent thumb drive. how can i remove the automatic login of the 'Ubuntu LiveUser'?
[00:26] <m1dn1ght> ironmedic: which version of ubuntu?
[00:26] <Xdapx> ubuntusistas
[00:26] <ironmedic> intrepid
[00:26] <brad1> hi guys ... yesterday i ran fsck and blindly answered yes to every question ... since then when i boot i get a million errors saying: "read-only file system" ... any ideas?
[00:26] <sysdoc> jpastore, u maybe ok mine did the same thing. I just had to install the NV driver afterwards through hardware drivers
[00:26] <ironmedic> intel i815 and intrepid
[00:26] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: Then I'm not sure how you'd restore.  What are you hoping to recover?
[00:27] <name_name> DeviantSOP: what's seems to be the trouble with  my setup?
[00:27] <jpastore> sysdoc, I have the nvidia drivers so I can recompile for the new kernel if need be
[00:27] <jpastore> sysdoc, I'll give it a reboot and see what happens
[00:27] <noksious> jgoguen, ok thx
[00:27] <mohdrafie> ubuntu rock!
[00:27] <billybigrigger_> is there any way to find out why a compiz crash is happening? can i view the compiz crash log somewhere?
[00:28] <sysdoc> jpastore, system>Admin>Hardware drivers
[00:28] <kaatil> jpastore just left before you say that, Sysdoc
[00:29] <sysdoc> kaatil, yea I saw that
[00:29] <ironmedic> i ran UseEdid and i restarted.  it asked me to reconfig the video and i did it.  then i restarted again.  i checked the resolutions and it didnt change. i ran puppy linux and it accepted my 1024 resolution
[00:29] <sysdoc> he;ll be back
[00:29] <hansengel> Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to use unrar for this - I have a group of RAR files (split archive). How can I merge these and uncompress? Will Nautilus be able to do that somehow?
[00:29] <jgoguen> noksious: I found a possible solution, but reviews are mixed about how well it works, and no one says whether or not webcam or microphone works.  Do you want to try anyway?
[00:29] <parthbakshi> does the desktop cube need a nvidia graphics card or will it still work on inbuilt intel gma graphics card
[00:29] <noksious> jgoguen,  yes
[00:29] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; i installed kde...but then i was unable 2 login as root.....so i uninstalled kde.....nd with it i dunno wat else got uninstalled....my screen resolution changed...
[00:30] <cars__> DarkKnight, why do you need to login as root?  Why not use sudo?
[00:30] <m1dn1ght> DarkKnight: were you unable to set a better resolution using displayconfig-gtk?  if you just uninstalled kubuntu-desktop nothing important should have been removed.
[00:30] <genii> I just fail to understand this constant obsession about loggin in as root
[00:30] <kaatil> seem popular.
[00:31] <kaatil> maybe i should root in the universe and do rm *. bad idea.
[00:31] <DarkKnight> cars_, m1dn1ght; i just started using root....and all my important files are in my root account
[00:31] <DeviantSOP> name_name: sudo cat /etc/fstab and paste
[00:31] <regeya> logging in as root...bad idea.
[00:31] <russell__> I have a question: If I install Ubuntu in a less than 2Gig partition will I only have what's left over to install programs?
[00:31] <kaatil> i think you can do chgrp the import files to other group
[00:31] <cars__> DarkKnight, So copy them to a non-root account.
[00:31] <ironmedic> sudo get me a sandwich
[00:31] <noksious> jgoguen,  dude lets go come on
[00:31] <jgoguen> noksious: OK, run this command to open your sources.list: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:31] <kaatil> so it can be accessable to your user.
[00:31] <Johnny_5> is it bad 2 start an upgrade, but then stop n the middle of it 2 do it some other time?
[00:31] <parthbakshi> rusell_ :depends
[00:32] <noksious> and ?
[00:32] <noksious> jgoguen,  i'm in and ?
[00:32] <DarkKnight> m1dn1ght; not only kubuntu-desktop...but also kde.....
[00:32] <Flannel> Johnny_5: Did it start installing? or just downloading packages?
[00:32] <Johnny_5> right now its just gettin' new packages
[00:32] <egoflux> what the f is elf class?
[00:32] <Unibob|laptop> hmmm, seems the upgrade made my FRESH linux install fubar.
[00:32] <sysdoc> is vmware not in the repos?
[00:32] <DarkKnight> cars_; so buddy..wen i can't login...how can I copy my data of nearly 20GB
[00:32] <Flannel> Johnny_5: you can stop it while its getting packages, yes.
[00:32] <ironmedic> i cant find a valid fix for my screen resolution problem.  it even did the same thing in regular intrepid ubuntu.  i am running xubuntu
[00:32] <Johnny_5> k
[00:32] <name_name> DeviantSOP: here ya go http://pastebin.com/m6eeb8398 , those are the only ones listed in /media where the mount points go.
[00:32] <Johnny_5> ty
[00:32] <regeya> mental note: update udev when at home
[00:32] <Flannel> DarkKnight: Why can't you log in?
[00:33] <gourgi> hi , i upgraded one of my machines from hardy to intrepid and i think the policykit is messed up , anyone willing to help?
[00:33] <herenbdy> I haev the libqt4-dev package installed, is there a seperate package for qt4's source code
[00:33] <herenbdy> ?
[00:33] <jgoguen> noksious: then enter the command :$
[00:33] <DarkKnight> Flannel; wen i installed kde....i couldnt...
[00:33] <tul_> any1 can help with non identified sound card(s) under 8.10?
[00:33]  * Unibob|laptop says go go gadget hard reboot.
[00:33] <guestguestnew> my friend told me something i just could not believe, he told me that if i wanted wine to work with any windows app, i should create a dual boot installation with windows and connect it to wine somehow? is there any truth to this? sounds crazy
[00:33] <Flannel> DarkKnight: You couldn't log in as root, but you can log in as a regular user, yes?
[00:33] <russell__> partbakshi: depends on what?
[00:33] <parthbakshi> because ubuntu needs some space to store the log files etc which can be cleaned however yes whatever space remaing after u install ubuntu is where u can install prgms
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: hey here I am if you want to tell me what the trouble is?
[00:33] <zsquareplusc> Unibob|laptop: nice one
[00:33] <cars__> DarkKnight, Can you log in at a terminal (ctrl+alt+F2)
[00:33] <noksious> jgoguen, and ?
[00:34] <DarkKnight> Flannel; yes
[00:34] <Flannel> DarkKnight: right, so log in as a regular user, and use sudo to copy the files.
[00:34] <n8tuser> herenbdy-> qt4.4 there is, but you have to compile it yourself, can take few hours
[00:34] <jgoguen> noksious: Push the 'o' key and paste this line there:
[00:34] <jgoguen> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main
[00:34] <Unibob|laptop> ok, something is wrong
[00:34] <herenbdy> guestguestnew: he may be talking about copying over DLLs from an actual windows install
[00:34] <fallore> When I start up Ubuntu 8.10 there is no icon for my windows partition (which contains my music) on my desktop. When I open Rhythmbox none of the music loaded from my last session from that partition exists. To get the music to play I have to remove everything and import it again, and then the icon shows up on the desktop. Does anyone know how I can make sure it carries over when i reboot?
[00:34] <herenbdy> instead of using the Wine created DLLs
[00:34] <jgoguen> noksious: then push Escape, then :wq, then push Enter
[00:34] <sysdoc> Repos and vmware, anyone??
[00:35] <Flannel> jgoguen: in the future, recommend nano, or if you're appending, just append.
[00:35] <parthbakshi> so in case u run out of space os might give an error thats what happened wid me
[00:35] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: mount the partition from boot-up
[00:35] <guestguestnew> herenbdy: but that still won't make it fully compatible to everything right?
[00:35] <deeperror> can someone checkout the output from aplay  http://pastebin.ca/1247403    i upgraded to 8.10 had everything working but now sound has stopped it did work a few reboots ago
[00:35] <fallore> Paddy_EIRE: how do i do that?
[00:35] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | fallore
[00:35] <hubar> Where can I find the file for applications menu under GNOME?
[00:35] <noksious> jgoguen, done
[00:35] <russell__> parthbakshi: ok,
[00:35] <noksious> and ?
[00:35] <herenbdy> n8tuser: I know I can compile it myself, but there's no package that contains the src? I just want to look at it
[00:35] <cars__> Something seems to be wrong with my partition.  I reinstalled ubuntu and used a separate partition for /home, but despite there being enough space (there should be 15GB available - 46GB volume, 30GB used), it only displays 2.6MB free.  How can I go about finding this space, and figuring out if my partition is corrupt?
[00:35] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: it in that wiki page
[00:35] <name_name> DeviantSOP: here ya go http://pastebin.com/m6eeb8398 , those are the only ones listed in /media where the mount points go.
[00:35] <n8tuser> herenbdy-> you have to download the tarball
[00:35] <guestguestnew> herenbdy: if that were the case, then the developers of wine would have made their own solution by now
[00:35] <Unibob|laptop> ok, tried to upgrade, upgrade had numerous failed to install or upgrade messages, and now I get a blank screen after the splash screen
[00:35] <sysdoc> deeperror, that is probably pulse audio, install alsa
[00:35] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: basically when i boot nw i get a million errors about my file system being read-only ..
[00:36] <jgoguen> noksious: you're back at the prompt now?
[00:36] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: nw?
[00:36] <hubar> Where can I find the file for applications menu under GNOME/metacity?
[00:36] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: sorry?
[00:36] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: what does nw mean?
[00:36] <noksious> jgoguen, yes
[00:36] <apo_> Hi. I just installed Mathematica 6.0, but when trying to start it, my X crashes every time. The same happens when I try starting skype. I'm running 8.04 with a server install that had X and other stuff added later.
[00:36] <apo_> Any idea what's wrong?
[00:36] <jgoguen> noksious: now this command: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[00:36] <herenbdy> guestguestnew: I beleive the developers of wine want to re-implement the windows dlls, not copy them, might be some legal issues with copying them
[00:36] <parthbakshi> x not configured properly
[00:37] <fallore> Paddy_EIRE: will that fourth method listed on that page work for me on 8.10?
[00:37] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, now*
[00:37] <deeperror> sysdoc, i just did a full uninstall of alsa with this............... sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils then reinstalled/rebooted still no joy
[00:37] <herenbdy> otherwise that would be easy I'd guess
[00:37] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: yes it certainly will :)
[00:37] <guestguestnew> herenbdy: i see
[00:37] <russell__> Can I use gparted to shrink my vista partition?
[00:37] <apo_> parthbakshi: X works great... even stuff like Unreal Tournament and Freespace 2 run just fine
[00:37] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: its pretty simple dont panic
[00:37] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[00:37] <herenbdy> guestguestnew:  but you can copy over DLLS from a windows install to use in WINE if you want
[00:37] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: yesterday i ran fsck and blindly answered yes to every question ... since then when i boot i get a million errors saying: "read-only file system"
[00:37] <parthbakshi> then some issues wid mathematica
[00:37] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: ah
[00:37] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[00:37] <herenbdy> guestguestnew: but wine doesn't come packaged with microsoft-made DLLs
[00:37] <parthbakshi> try running mathematica from the terminal
[00:37] <billybigrigger_> is there a compiz crash handler in ubuntu?
[00:38] <apo_> parthbakshi: I always do that =P
[00:38] <deeperror> sysdoc, also installed alsa-oss
[00:38] <hubar> Where can I find the file for applications menu under GNOME/metacity?
[00:38] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: without knowing what you said yes to I cannot be sure what you did
[00:38] <parthbakshi> so whats the error
[00:38] <noksious> jgoguen, done i have installed udo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[00:38] <apo_> "Qt-subapplication: Fatal IO error: client killed"
[00:38] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: it makes it difficult to retrace your steps
[00:38] <guestguestnew> herenbdy: i guess it would be better if i didn't. i don't really rely on windows apps anymore these days
[00:38] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: mmmm yer
[00:38] <parthbakshi> and
[00:38] <parthbakshi> do u have kde or gnome
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: I would reinstall if it where me and such a thing happened
[00:39] <apo_> Neither
[00:39] <jgoguen> noksious: now, download the Windows version of Yahoo Messenger
[00:39] <noksious> jgoguen, can u give me a link plz?
[00:39] <noksious> hmm
[00:39] <parthbakshi> do u have the qt libraries needed
[00:39] <noksious> ?
[00:39] <fallore> Paddy_EIRE: i think i got it :] thank you
[00:39] <apo_> Yes, I do
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: I would also question the health of your HDD just to zero that one out
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: cool :)
[00:39] <brad1>  in fstab it said for the drive: "rw, error=ro" which i figure means when theres an error it boots read-only .... i really dont want to reinstall if i dont have to
[00:39] <deeperror> sysdoc,  is it normal to have 2 devices there? the subdevice?
[00:40] <apo_> At least ldd skype doesn't tell me about any missing libs. Can't find the actual executable of Mathematica.
[00:40] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: well i run fsck from this livecd on the drive and it seems fine :/ does that mean nething
[00:40] <brad1> ?
[00:40] <jgoguen> noksious: http://rd.software.yahoo.com/msgr/9/msgr9us.exe
[00:40] <noksious> jgoguen, ok wait i'm installing now
[00:40] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: hmm.. now that is a bit more interesting
[00:40] <parthbakshi> so used the source files and compiled mathematica
[00:40] <noksious> i hope will works this time
[00:41] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: although I think the livecd does the check in read-only mode
[00:41] <apo_> parthbakshi: Mathematica is proprietary.
[00:41] <bluejay|T61> hello!
[00:41] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: naa i made sure it was rw
[00:41] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: so it would probably not be very informative
[00:41] <Paddy_EIRE> brad1: oh.. hmm
[00:41] <gourgi> my policykit is messed up -->  http://gourgi.pastebin.com/d5e81dbb1
[00:41] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: i will check again to make sure but yer
[00:41] <gourgi> anyone can help?
[00:41] <parthbakshi> did u look into the mathematica forum
[00:42] <badfish69> roflzorz
[00:42] <bluejay|T61> one quick question
[00:42] <sysdoc> deeperror, aby normal u betcha
[00:42] <Unibob|laptop> can't start x seems to be my issue now
[00:43] <bluejay|T61> in rc.conf, i have two entries for eth0 and wlan0, but since i'm not using eth0 most of the time (i'm on laptop, so i prefer wireless connection) i dont want my laptop to load up eth0 interface
[00:43] <fallore> does ubuntu have good (subjective i know) support for dual monitors?
[00:43] <deeperror> sysdoc, how would one remove the extra?
[00:43] <Unibob|laptop> how would I repair the install?
[00:43] <bluejay|T61> but everytime i boot up, it tries to load eth0 and says it failed (obviously, since my lan cable isn't hooked up to my laptop)
[00:43] <AussieGuy_> how do i fix a corrputed fat filesystem from linux?
[00:44] <brad1> Paddy_EIRE: how can i make sure im mounting it rw?
[00:44] <AussieGuy_> my flash drive got mixed up from being unplugged without being demounted
[00:44] <qpdb> bluejay|T61 .. edit /etc/network/interfaces .. remove the line "auto eth0"
[00:44] <bluejay|T61> is there any way to make my laptop connect to wired connection ONLY when my lan cable is connected?
[00:44] <cars__> fallore, It was working fine in 2005 when I tried it last.
[00:44] <apo_> parthbakshi: Not the forum, but I've been googling for a while. The forum's search is horrible.
[00:44] <ironmedic> anyone available to help me with my screen resolution problem?
[00:44] <bluejay|T61> qpdb: oh ! thanks
[00:44] <sysdoc> deeperror, system>prefs>Multimedia systems seloctor
[00:44] <AussieGuy_> how do you check for/repair errors, like you would if windows booted from it?
[00:44] <bluejay|T61> qpdb: so that's where all the automatic loading is configured!
[00:44] <sysdoc> selector sorry
[00:45] <deeperror> sysdoc,  ahh i don't seem to have multimedia systems selector available?
[00:45] <ironmedic> i would surf the ubuntu forums for my answers but the forums are down
[00:45] <sysdoc> deeperror, rt clk system>edit menus
[00:45] <sysdoc> turn it on
[00:45] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: yes although that is not the correct question to ask
[00:45] <woli> does anybody know of a music converter?
[00:46] <Paddy_EIRE> fallore: ask whether or not your card has proper driver support
[00:46] <deeperror> sysdoc, ok got it checking this out here
[00:46] <bluejay|T61> qpdb: sorry to bother you again, but the given directory doesn't exist
[00:46] <bluejay|T61> i'm using arch linux btw
[00:46] <sysdoc> OK for the last time, vmware-server is it in the repos (default that is) or do I need to add a repo?? What gives
[00:47] <sysdoc> ?
[00:47] <modpauper> Hi.  Anyone using an aluminum mac keyboard with Ibex?  I'm having a lot of keyboard issues that I didn't have with heron and wondered what settings were ideal.  (Going for a typical PC layout with this keyboard rather than a Mac-style command key layout).  Can't seem to find any web resources on this, probably me. :)
[00:47] <emorris> hi, is there any reason why the latest generic kernel is 2.6.27-7 while the latest rt is 2.6.27-3?
[00:47] <Flannel> bluejay|T61: You should ask in the arch channels then.  This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[00:47] <sysdoc> deeperror, cool good luck, btw, I wouldn't worry about removing the pulse just select alsa and move on
[00:47] <qpdb> bluejay|T61, ok, seems things are different in archlinux, maybe you should try #archlinux ;)
[00:47] <noksious> jgoguen, dude it says error: Messenger connection problem...check the connection.. but i have connection...
[00:48] <noksious> jgoguen, i can't login on the yahoo
[00:48] <noksious> :|
[00:48] <DarkKnight> hey i m back.....ppl guys who were talking 2 me b4....i got things right back as before
[00:48] <DarkKnight> thanks buds
[00:48] <zsquareplusc> modpauper: i had keyboard issues too, but those resulted from a bad .Xmodmap file
[00:48] <parthbakshi> apo_ :needs to be looked into i havent used mathematica so i have no idea where the issue is ,however since x runs properly issue is with qt/graphical librarys needed
[00:48] <bluejay|T61> well of course i went on #archlinux, but it wouldn't let me type anything in the channel :(
[00:48] <cars__> I'm using 8.10 and am having troubles with my new /home partition.  I reinstalled Ubuntu to make more room and used a separate partition for /home, but but now it's only reporting 2.5MB free (there should be 15GB available - 46GB volume, 30GB used).  I did not format it, since I had existing files I wanted to keep.  How can I go about finding this space, and figuring out if my partition is corrupt?
[00:48] <parthbakshi> apo_:which wm are u using
[00:48] <Unibob|laptop> well, I guess I am going to wipe the partition, download the latest distro and do another fresh install, I don't think this one can be fixed
[00:48] <apo_> parthbakshi: dwm.
[00:49] <apo_> parthbakshi: But it seems to be a problem of my wacom tablet.
[00:49] <bluejay|T61> it never happened in any other channel at freenode, and i know little about freenode's account/nick management system ;(
[00:49] <Sorcererbob> cars__: in a command prompt type "df" and have a look at the usage of the partitions
[00:49] <modpauper> sysdoc: I had to download vmware-server.
[00:49] <hubar> Where can I find the file for applications menu under GNOME/metacity?
[00:49] <parthbakshi> apo_:ohh you are using wacom??
[00:49] <apo_> parthbakshi: Yep
[00:49] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to locate the php executable. I know that php is installed, but /usr/local/bin or /bin contain it...
[00:49] <Flannel> !register > bluejay|T61
[00:49] <sysdoc> modpauper, from the vmware site??
[00:49] <parthbakshi> apo_:interesting
[00:49] <zsquareplusc> cars__: "du -h" if youre searching for the folders that are big. there is also a gui tool in the application->addons menu
[00:49] <modpauper> sysdoc: Yeah, because the download required a serial number and registration.
[00:50] <Flannel> hubar: To do what with it?
[00:50] <sysdoc> modpauper, U used ver 2?
[00:50] <CaptainMorgan> nor /usr/bin
[00:50] <Flannel> !away > Cream|Gone
[00:50] <hubar> Flannel: edit, of course
[00:50] <modpauper> sysdoc: Also, if you're using Ibex, I believe you need to update to the latest vmware-server release
[00:50] <Flannel> hubar: Right click and hit "edit"
[00:50] <hubar> Flannel: no that won't work.
[00:50] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to locate the php executable. I know that php is installed, but /usr/local/bin or /bin do not contain it...
[00:50] <modpauper> sysdoc: Yeah, 2.
[00:50] <hubar> Flannel: there is an entry that is shown in my appmenu.
[00:50] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: `which php`
[00:51] <sysdoc> modpauper, using this tut http://www.squidoo.com/use-existing-windows-installation-and-apps-in-ubuntu
[00:51] <Sorcererbob> CaptainMorgan: why are you installing from source? why not install from the repos?
[00:51] <hubar> Flannel: But it isn't showing up in edit menu.
[00:51] <brad1> argh complete reinstall of ubuntu *cries into pillow*
[00:51] <deeperror> sysdoc, here is something that may be interesting i have 2 identical tops and they show different output on lspci perhaps this may give more info as to why its not working   http://pastebin.ca/1247411
[00:51] <modpauper> zsquareplusc: Any idea what changed with xmodmap in Ibex?  I had to dump my old config file and don't know what the difference is.
[00:51]  * mosno buys brad1 and ubuntu-styled pillowcase
[00:51] <PCJunkie> Question.. Ubuntu 8.10, ya know where ya click on your name at the top and can change your pidgin status? is there any way to disable that so that's not an option anymore?
[00:52] <noksious> jgoguen, i can't login on the yahoo
[00:52] <zsquareplusc> modpauper: no idea. i had to remove my file. it was doing weird stuff with the old one, like cursor up = print screen...
[00:52] <qpdb> PCJunkie.. i was asking this the whole day
[00:52] <brad1> mosno: u legend lol
[00:52] <hubar> Flannel: Any ideas? solutions? :)
[00:52] <modpauper> zsquareplusc: did you build a new file?
[00:53] <qpdb> PCJunkie: did't got any answer yet, but i also asked in pidgin channel.. they told me its not a pidgin feature, its ubuntu ;)
[00:53] <zsquareplusc> modpauper: nah, just remove. the defaults w/o any file are fine for a normal keybaord
[00:53] <modpauper> sysdoc: Are you trying to boot an existing windows partition with vmware from within ubuntu, or create a new windows virtual machine from within ubuntu?
[00:53] <zsquareplusc> modpauper: actually i renamed it and logged in again
[00:53] <sysdoc> modpauper, yea existing Xp
[00:53] <apo_> parthbakshi: I commented out the parts in my Xorg.conf referring to the wacom stuff and restarted X. works now ^_^
[00:53] <modpauper> zsquareplusc: Do you just l ive with the command/alt key switch?
[00:54] <PCJunkie> qpdb, yea i remember clicking update to have that feature enabled, but i decided i'm not so crazy about it
[00:54] <Flannel> hubar: Try gconf I guess. Also, check... whatever folder apps put .desktop files into, /usr/share/ something
[00:54] <sysdoc> I don't wanna jump through the hoops of a new install...:)
[00:54] <emorris> hi, is there any reason why the latest generic kernel is 2.6.27-7 while the latest rt is 2.6.27-3?
[00:54] <parthbakshi> apo_: great
[00:54] <myvo> i just installed ubuntu server 8.10 64 bit. i tried to activate ati restricted drivers. now when i reboot it defaults to safe graphics mode and i can see a boot error about fglrx kernel installer failing. how can i find out the exact text of this error...its not in dmesg
[00:54] <foxwoods> Hello everyone
[00:54] <foxwoods> I'm trying to get a wireless card to work, compiled the latest ndiswrapper, and my device is recognized
[00:54] <zsquareplusc> modpauper: i have a standard pc keyboard. i was just thinking that a faulty .Xmodmap could be your problem too
[00:54] <foxwoods> it has connected to a network once
[00:55] <foxwoods> but it is failing to connect now
[00:55] <lavacano201014> myvo: Could be visible in <CTRL> + <ALT> + <F1>'s terminals
[00:55] <foxwoods> from /var/log/syslog
[00:55] <DarkKnight> Flannel;....wat is the harm i we login as root in graphical mode and use it always
[00:55] <foxwoods> "get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: Requested setting is empty"
[00:55] <foxwoods> Does anyone have any guess?
[00:55] <reduz> I have a Question! is there any way i can "save" the state of my ubuntu install
[00:55] <jgoguen> noksious: what's the error you're getting
[00:55] <reduz> and then when installing another ubuntu, install the same packages?
[00:56] <Flannel> DarkKnight: Don't login as root.  That's extremely dangerous as its much easier to make a mistake and delete your OS, etc.
[00:56] <Sorcererbob> DarkKnight: you can do a lot of damage to the system. Making you use sudo forces you to stop and think about what you're doing
[00:56] <cars__> zsquareplusc, sorcererbob, It's getting worse.  Now it's reporting 0B free.  Using the commands, I don't see anything that should be taking up all this space.  df reports that the total size is correct.
[00:56] <brad1> anyone know of a good guide to installing ubuntu with our /home and  root partitions separate?
[00:56] <modpauper> sysdoc: In beta, vm server 2 didn't support booting from an existing partition, if my memory is right.  So you'll find that older tutorials mention that ability when in server 2 (beta -- I haven't tried the latest release -- notes are online at: http://www.vmware.com/support/server2/doc/releasenotes_vmserver2.html)
[00:56] <deeperror> anyone good with sound care to check this out http://pastebin.ca/1247411      i have 2 identical laptops one has sound the other doesn't
[00:56] <lavacano201014> reduz: You want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[00:56] <brad1> your*
[00:56] <zsquareplusc> DarkKnight: its the path to hell, like tojans and worms. if you dont belive it, look how windoze works ;-)
[00:56] <reduz> lavacano201014, i just want to move ubuntu from hd to hd
[00:56] <noksious> jgoguen, i cant write the password :|
[00:56] <qpdb> reduz: the word you are looking for is system backup?
[00:56] <lavacano201014> reduz: Then I have no idea.
[00:56] <jgoguen> noksious: I have no idea then...I'm sorry :(
[00:56] <noksious> jgoguen, dude plz find me 1 messenger for webcam and microphone plz !
[00:56] <noksious> :|
[00:57] <reduz> qpdb, i'm not sure, i just want to keep using the computer i was using as always, except on another disk
[00:57] <modpauper> sysdoc: What I meant was, the tutorials show the option to boot from an existing partition, but in server 2 beta the option didn't exist.  I'd check the release notes, download 2 from vmware's site, install it and find out for yourself
[00:57] <DarkKnight> zsquareplus; i didnt get u??
[00:57] <jgoguen> noksious: the only other thing I could suggest is to try Kopete
[00:57] <zsquareplusc> cars__: some application seems to freak out and fill your disk.. you might play with "ps ax" and/or "lsof"
[00:57] <lavacano201014> noksious: Why do you need webcam support anyway?
[00:57] <modpauper> zsquareplusc: Ah, cool.  Thanks for the input.
[00:57] <sysdoc> modpauper, u rock dewd!! thanks
[00:57] <DarkKnight> zsquareplus; viruses r very much ineffective in linux
[00:57] <reduz> qpdb, back in the old debian days i could just copy everything, then run debian rescue, open an installer shell, chrooting and running lilo
[00:57] <zsquareplusc> DarkKnight: my comment was about working as root :-)
[00:57] <foxwoods> anyone know hte "get_secretes_cb: Couldn't get connection secrets:Requested setting is empty" error?
[00:57] <reduz> qpdb, maybe i can somehow do the same in ubuntu
[00:57] <modpauper> sysdoc: No problem.  Good luck. :)
[00:58] <sysdoc> modpauper, funny azzed nick too, lol
[00:58] <sysdoc> Thx dewd
[00:58] <foxwoods> DarkKnight: they are only ineffective because they do not have root access
[00:58] <noksious> lavacano201014, to see my father.. he works in iraq
[00:58] <lavacano201014> noksious: Oh. I see.
[00:58] <foxwoods> DarkKnight: and are usually not designed for linux since only masochists use it :)
[00:58] <AussieGuy_> any advantage of formatting a flash drive as ext3?
[00:58] <Sorcererbob> DarkKnight: foxwoods is correct. Windows viruses can propogate easily because they have administrative access to the system
[00:58] <AussieGuy_> im thinking maybe its more strudy filesystem to prevent data loss
[00:58] <noksious> jgoguen, on kopete can't have microphone i tried there
[00:59] <lavacano201014> AussieGuy_: Windows users won't be able to know what the heck it is.
[00:59] <Cream> Sorcererbob, true
[00:59] <jgoguen> noksious: oh...sorry, I have no idea :(
[00:59] <lavacano201014> I don't know if this is an advantage for you or not.
[00:59] <AussieGuy_> I have 2 computers, their both linux
[00:59] <jgoguen> noksious: I'm out of ideas
[00:59] <qpdb> reduz, you can easily move your whole system.. boot a live cd, mount old and new root partition.. and do "cp -avx /mnt/oldroot/* /mnt/newroot/" .. then make sure to correct fstab, menu.lst, etc.
[00:59] <myvo> lavacano201014 when i did ctrl alt f1, the machine froze and i just came back from a hard reboot
[00:59] <AussieGuy_> dont really use windows
[00:59] <foxwoods> anyone here know wireless on 8.10?
[00:59] <Cream> Flannel, what did i do?
[00:59] <noksious> lavacano201014, do u .. know some other messenger where i can use webcam and microphone ?
[00:59] <lavacano201014> myvo: Now that's really odd
[00:59] <AussieGuy_> but FAt has failed me a couple of times on the flash drive
[00:59] <noksious> jgoguen, its okay thank you alots for helping me this 1 hour
[00:59] <jpastore> sysdoc, so it rebooted ok. had to enable the restricted driver for nvidia...but everything in evolution is showing up as if there is no spell check dictionary and it's trying to spell check. everything is underlined...is there a package I need to reinstall
[00:59] <Flannel> Cream: Don't use public away messages (see the stuff ubottu sent you)
[00:59] <myvo> i did get a better look at the error message and it shows: DKMS auto installation for kernel 2.6.27-7server fglrx 8.something failed
[00:59] <lavacano201014> noksious: No. I don't need it, personally, so I use Pidgin, which doesn't support it
[00:59] <parthbakshi> any idea which digital pen works best with ubuntu 8.04
[01:00] <DarkKnight> Sorcerebob, foxwoods, zsquareplusc, Flannel:  thanxx...i leaned something important.....thanxx guys.....guess u all r hardcore geeks!!!
[01:00] <lavacano201014> noksious: You could, _maybe_ try Miranda IM
[01:00] <noksious> lavacano201014, whats Miranda ?
[01:00] <lavacano201014> noksious: Another multimessenger program, it may have webcam support, I don't know
[01:00] <brad1> how can i mount a partition as root from a live cd?
[01:00] <AussieGuy_> I might make a little 200mb fat partition but wouldnt use it for anything serious
[01:01] <reduz> qpdb, i see, and how do i reinstall group in the new drive?
[01:01] <noksious> lavacano201014, can you or jgoguen help me from where to get it.. ?
[01:01] <reduz> qpdb, er i mean, grub
[01:01] <myvo> another question if i may, i created a raid5 with mdadm using four disks...the file transfer rate starts out fine at 50mb/s until after it completes 2gb, then the transfer rate goes down steadily til around 30mb/s and then it just stops
[01:01] <lavacano201014> noksious: http://www.mirandaim.org or something
[01:01]  * lavacano201014 needs to clean the kitchen floor now, roommate's getting angry
[01:01] <noksious> ok i'll try
[01:01] <sysdoc> jpastore, my evolution is doing the same thing (or I can't spell chit!) are you running Office 3.0?
[01:02] <timothy_> hello
[01:02] <timothy_>  I'm having a little problem which I think has something to do with mono.
[01:02] <timothy_>  error CS0006: cannot find metadata file `Novell.Directory.Ldap'
[01:02] <timothy_>  I get this when 'making' lat
[01:02] <FloodBot2> timothy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <qpdb> reduz.. there a lot of ways.. just chroot the new system and run grub-install.. or only mount the new system and run grub-install with --root-directory parameter.. (man grub should help)
[01:02] <foxwoods> sorry, I'm going to bump myself again: my wireless can't connect to WPA
[01:02] <sysdoc> jpastore, what driver did you enable for NV?
[01:03] <SpartanII117> foxwoods: which version of ubuntu and who makes your card?
[01:03] <Doc8404> hey guys how do i do a desktop integration of OOo
[01:03] <foxwoods> 8.10
[01:03] <sysdoc> jpastore, if ya plan on running twin view or 2 x sessions use the 173 driver the 177 is bugged
[01:03] <jpastore> sysdoc, I enabled version 177 and I'm not sure if office got upgraded
[01:03] <foxwoods> D-Link DWL-G132
[01:03] <jpastore> sysdoc, nah it's on my laptop
[01:03] <foxwoods> the card is recognized
[01:04] <SpartanII117> what chipset?
[01:04] <foxwoods> unsure, but I believe atheros
[01:04] <jpastore> sysdoc, I also get an error about python-setuptools
[01:04] <foxwoods> installed ndiswrapper
[01:04] <foxwoods> and it is recognized
[01:04] <sysdoc> jpastore, yea it doesn't do that in my laptop, maybe reinstall office
[01:04] <timothy_> does anyone know what I can do to solve this error?
[01:04] <timothy_> error CS0006: cannot find metadata file `Novell.Directory.Ldap'
[01:04] <SpartanII117> ok, and the default install did not work or did you try it?
[01:04] <foxwoods> no, it didn't work
[01:05] <foxwoods> it has never worked for any version
[01:05] <foxwoods> it's not a supported card, but I have gotten it working with ndiswrapper-1.47 in Guts
[01:05] <foxwoods> Gutsy*
[01:05] <mosno> brad1: the pillow motto is enscribed: "Tears for Human Beings"
[01:05] <foxwoods> so I installed ndiswrapper-1.53 (since it compiles with the current kernel, 1.47 didn't)
[01:05] <sysdoc> jpastore, try system>admin>update mgr
[01:05] <SpartanII117> hmm... does it show up in the restricted drivers prefrences?
[01:05] <deeperror> could ndiswrapper conflict with alsa?  or is that part of it to get the driver working?
[01:05] <slayton_> is it possible to shrink the size of icons on a panel?
[01:05] <_moose> i am new to linux and wanted to try ubuntu on my laptop that doesnt have a cd drive.  i downloaded the ubuntu ultimate and wanted to install via pxe but everything i read says i need a netboot folder.  i have searched the entire dvd and cant find it anyone know how to do this
[01:05] <foxwoods> can't see that since I don't have access to the internet :P
[01:06] <jpastore> sysdoc, I did. I'll try it again.
[01:06] <brad1> mosno: lulz
[01:06] <SpartanII117> ahh, would it be possible to hardwire it temporarily?
[01:06] <foxwoods> hardwire? It's being recognized currently.
[01:07] <mneptok> Mashantucket Pequot Indian High Stakes Bingo!
[01:07] <foxwoods> the problem is the following error message:
[01:07] <foxwoods> "get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: Requested setting is empty"
[01:07] <SpartanII117> yes, but you said you cvant get on the internet with it
[01:07] <jpastore> sysdoc, update mgr says I'm up to date
[01:07] <sysdoc> jpastore, POS lol
[01:08] <brad1> does anyone know of a good guide on installing ubuntu ... including setting up root and home partitions separate?
[01:08] <foxwoods> How would I go about installing a previous version of networkmanager?
[01:08] <SpartanII117> foxwoods: sorry then, it's out of my league
[01:08] <sysdoc> jpastore, do a search of the forums for your other issues
[01:08] <chadeldridge> foxwoods: what problem are you having ?
[01:08] <foxwoods> chadeldridge:"get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: Requested setting is empty"
[01:08] <foxwoods> It prevents me from connecting to WPA
[01:08] <sysdoc> jpastore, trying to bang in vmware here or I'd search them for ya...
[01:08] <foxwoods> network
[01:08] <chadeldridge> foxwoods: for pptp vpn  ?
[01:08] <foxwoods> I haven't tried with any others
[01:08] <foxwoods> not pptp vpn
[01:08] <foxwoods> just regular WPA
[01:08] <FloodBot2> foxwoods: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <foxwoods> Sorry FloodBot.
[01:09] <chadeldridge> foxwoods: ahh ok totally separate issue then sorry
[01:09] <foxwoods> yeah, I was looking and seeing that issue with pptp vpn
[01:09] <slayton_> If I resize my fonts the fonts on my panel shrink but my icons don't is it possible to SHRINK the icons on my panel?
[01:09] <foxwoods> chadeldridge:Have you had to downgrade to a previous version of NM?
[01:10] <pac1> I can't get the iso to boot.
[01:10] <myvo> i just installed 8.10 64bit server and tried to activate the ati restricted driver...i get an error message when i boot like "dkms kernel installation fglrx failed" and it defaults to safe graphics mode. can anyone help?
[01:10] <chadeldridge> foxwoods: although usually that secrets error message is caused by something not being able to read the keyring properly
[01:10] <foxwoods> where is that keyring stored?
[01:10] <Fezzler> My kids likes the Open Arena Game.  Are there similar games?
[01:10] <foxwoods> myvo: to recover from that, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <Fezzler> Maybe less violent but 3D action
[01:11] <myvo> foxwoods thank you
[01:11] <foxwoods> (boot into a root terminal)
[01:11] <jpastore> sysdoc, you just using the vmware player?
[01:11] <Dominik> how does edubuntu differ from ubuntu?
[01:11] <foxwoods> myvo: I'm not sure what happens when you install fglrx with the restricted driver, but the dpkg-reconfigure should reset xorg
[01:11] <foxwoods> myvo: it may or may not work
[01:11] <myvo> foxwoods should i use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[01:11] <qpdb> Dominik preinstalled software and theme afaik
[01:12] <foxwoods> myvo: just use the defaults
[01:12] <myvo> foxwoods i think the reconfigure will at least get me back to using the correct software drivers
[01:12] <millertime_018> hey how do i get openoffice3 on ubuntu?
[01:12] <Dominik> qpdb: do you know what I sort of software comes with edubuntu?
[01:12] <millertime_018> and whats the deal? how come the updates hasn't provided it yet?
[01:12] <Sorcererbob> Dominik: it includes "educational apps" according to the wiki
[01:12] <chadeldridge> myvo: are you in X now ?
[01:12] <cached> how would I, through the terminal, rename every file inside a folder that contains the character "\'" so that it excludes that character?
[01:12] <foxwoods> chadeldridge:Have you had to downgrade to a previous version of NM?
[01:12] <myvo> chadeldride yes but 800x600 is my max resolution
[01:12] <chadeldridge> foxwoods: no i have the diff patch installed to fix my pptp issue
[01:13] <myvo> i am about to ctrl-alt backspace and try out the fresh xorg.conf
[01:13] <raevol> hey, nm-applet is telling me that "No connections defined."
[01:13] <millertime_018> hey anyone! how do i get openoffice3 on ubuntu?
[01:13] <linxeh> are there any apps in the repositories that will let me build up a database of coordinates with descriptions and categorisations, and then let me view them on a map or export them to google earth, or better still to a WFS server or similar?
[01:13] <raevol> running an eeepc with a custom ubuntu install and the array.org kernel
[01:13] <chadeldridge> myvo:  go to terminal 2 (ctrl/alt/f2) login there, do a sudo killall gdm and then a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:13] <qpdb> Dominik: education and games ;)
[01:14] <Sajuta> millertime_018: Got to openoffice.org and download the .deb.
[01:14] <myvo> chadelridge the last time i tried to switch terminals the system froze and i had to hard reboot
[01:14] <xorlim> how come my encrypted Private folder doesn't show on my GNOME Desktop anymore, even though it shows in my home folder?
[01:14] <foxwoods> myvo: how did the dpkg-reconfigure turn out?
[01:15] <myvo> foxwoods so far so good i entered all the defaults but i havent restarted x yet...i think what chadelridge suggested would be a cleaner reconfigure no?
[01:15] <foxwoods> as far as I know it shouldn't matter
[01:15] <myvo> how do i know what version of x.org i am running? the ati driver on their website supports up to 7.3
[01:16] <qpdb> Dominik http://www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu
[01:16] <sysdoc> modpauper, yikes 538 meg download for ver2
[01:16] <n8tuser> myvo-> X11 ?
[01:16] <millertime_018> sajuta: but the deb packages don't automatically install
[01:16] <sysdoc> jpastore, u still searching?
[01:17] <MasterShrek> anyone else having problems building the proprietary ati driver in intrepid w/kernel 2.6.27-7-generic ?
[01:17] <galantvr4> anyone know how i can install bitchx ??? i did a apt-get install bitchx but it said it did not exists
[01:17] <vladc> What Ubuntu program should I use to capture still images using my Logitech webcam?
[01:17] <usser> cached, here try that http://pastebin.com/m7c8b6e6c
[01:17] <mosno> galantvr4: isn't bitchx dead?
[01:17] <myvo> n8tuser isn't x11 a different program than x.org?
[01:17] <NotADJ> myvo: No
[01:17] <NotADJ> XGl is
[01:17] <n8tuser> myvo-> im not aware of x.org program
[01:18] <MasterShrek> galantvr4, take a look at pork
[01:18] <kitche> myvo: X.org is different then FreeX86
[01:18] <usser> cached, only edit it so that sed reads  sed -e 's/\'//g'`
[01:18] <MasterShrek> galantvr4, apt-cache search bitchx comes back with pork, an aim and irc client
[01:18] <usser> cached, also dont try it on your directory
[01:18] <usser> cached, test it first cause my scripting skills are a bit rusty and the script i gave u may break stuff
[01:18] <myvo> notadj so what does the ati website mean when it supports x.org version 7.3?
[01:19] <myvo> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[01:19] <cached> usser: thanks :)
[01:19] <kitche> myvo: that is supports X.org 7.3
[01:19] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to locate the php executable. I know that php is installed, but /usr/local/bin or /bin do not contain it...
[01:19] <myvo> kitche so how do i know what version of x.org i'm using
[01:19] <CaptainMorgan> nor /usr/bin
[01:19] <SpartanII117> CaptainMorgan: which php?
[01:19] <kitche> myvo: X --version or look at /var/log/X.org.0.log
[01:19] <qpdb> CaptainMorgan "sudo updatedb && sudo locate php"
[01:19] <CaptainMorgan> I have located /etc/php5 but doesn't contain an executable
[01:20] <galantvr4> master, is pork bitchx or a wanabe?
[01:20] <myvo> kitche X --version gave a fatal error heh
[01:20] <kitche> myvo: just on -
[01:21] <MasterShrek> galantvr4, no idea
[01:21] <galantvr4> ah :(
[01:21] <Sajuta> millertime_018: Do you have Oo.o 2.x installed?
[01:21] <galantvr4> ill just look for the soruce
[01:21] <ironmedic> anyone available to help me with my screen resolution problem? i only get 800x600 and i tried different ways to get 1024 in intrepid
[01:21] <galantvr4> and compile da hoe
[01:21] <myvo> it says im using x.org x server 1.5.2 ... that number doesn't really jive with the versions that ati says they support
[01:21] <Tetracomm> I would like to develop for the Blackberry and Google Android, can this be done on Linux?
[01:21] <kitche> myvo: that is most likely 7.4
[01:21] <billybigrigger> can someone help me out here? im trying to get compiz to spit out a crash log for me, i have install compizconfig-settings-manager and then loaded it up, when to utility plugins, and enabled the crash handler, set my log output to ~/compiz and every time it crashes, it doesnt spit out a log
[01:22] <millertime_018> Sajuta: i'm running hardy heron with OO2.4
[01:22] <myvo> i tried to cat /var/log/X.org.0.log and it says it doesnt exists
[01:22] <millertime_018> is it possible to upgrade with the intrepid ibex cd and not change any personal effects you have on you ubuntu install?
[01:22] <Sajuta> millertime_018: Uninstall that first, then, go get all those .debs.
[01:22] <CaptainMorgan> qpdb, I'm not sure I like that sequence.... it outputs way too much
[01:22] <herrmess> Is there a way to have the network manager configure a NIC that now shows "device is unmanaged" ?
[01:22] <myvo> thanks for all of the input everyone i am going to try to kill X and reconfigure, wish me luck
[01:23] <millertime_018> what?!
[01:23] <millertime_018> uninstall it?
[01:23] <sysdoc> billybigrigger, leave the path as the default /tmp
[01:23] <Sajuta> millertime_018: Then, open the terminal, change to that directory and use $sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:23] <CaptainMorgan> SpartanII117, did that answer your question, ? php5 ?
[01:23] <cllaudyu> hello i just installed ubuntu intrepid 8.10 and it's runing fine but how can i install pidgin back?
[01:23] <terrestre> ironmedic, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/50317 <--- maybe could help
[01:23] <Dominik> when running a thin client under ubuntu is there an app that can tell me the server load?
[01:23] <qpdb> CaptainMorgan every file and path with php in it, if there is an exceuteable, it will be listed ;)
[01:23] <billybigrigger> sysdoc, thanks
[01:23] <gunavara> good evening
[01:23] <millertime_018> will it work on hardy heron?
[01:23] <CaptainMorgan> qpdb, as I said, that's way too much :/
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> hi people
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> umm i am installing ubuntu
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> or xubuntu ;)
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> so i try to get firmware for b43
[01:24] <Sajuta> millertime_018: Installing Oo.o 3? Yeah, I did that in Hardy.
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> it doesnt work
[01:24] <CaptainMorgan> qpdb, that's rendered useless since I can't look through it all... it seriously too much listed
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> some error says
[01:24] <FloodBot2> Spreadsheet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> ok
[01:24] <cllaudyu> no 1 knows?
[01:24] <sysdoc> cllaudyu, apps>internet>Pidgen on in here??
[01:24] <qpdb> CaptainMorgan then try "sudo locate php | grep bin"
[01:24] <Sajuta> cllaudyu: Pidgin should be installed in 8.10.
[01:25] <Spreadsheet> it was saying a file was being used by something else and the driver couldnt be installed
[01:25] <myvo> thanks everyone i reconfigured x and i'm back to a properly working software renderer
[01:25] <Sajuta> cllaudyu: Did you remove it?
[01:25] <cllaudyu> it's not
[01:25] <MarkyP> Hey
[01:25] <cllaudyu> it didn't install
[01:25] <kitche> qpdb: don't even have to use sudo with locate
[01:25] <herrmess> Hi all, I upgraded 8.04->8.10 and it screwed up my network interfaces. It configured ONE of the NICs for both LAN and EXTERNAL traffic. I need to switch between them, this is idiotic.
[01:25] <MarkyP> is there away to update my ubuntu with out disk
[01:25] <cllaudyu> Sajuta i dodn't have it
[01:25] <pHro_> hi
[01:25] <MarkyP> im 100% linux noob
[01:25] <Sajuta> cllaudyu: Open up your terminal and $sudo apt-get install pidgin .
[01:25] <foxwoods> How would I go about installing an older kernel for intrepid ibex with no internet working (on the machine I want to install it on)?
[01:25] <MarkyP> and got olllllld version installed just now
[01:25] <cllaudyu> Sajuta thanks
[01:25] <sysdoc> cllaudyu, system>admin>synaptic search for Pidgin and install
[01:25] <qpdb> ok kitche, bad habit ;)
[01:25] <cllaudyu> Sajuta esti roman?
[01:25] <kitche> MarkyP: update-manager -c but what version are you on?
[01:26] <MarkyP> 5.10
[01:26] <SpartanII117> CaptainMorgan: which is a command, i should have specified, try running "which php"
[01:26] <Sajuta> cllaudyu: Nope, sorry. English only. ^_^
[01:26] <Spreadsheet> so can anyone help me?
[01:26] <millertime_018> Sajuta: idk what to do!
[01:26] <bin1010> doh...I upgraded to 8.10, and now it wont boot..it says that root cannot be found and it is dropping me into a busybox shell...
[01:26] <cllaudyu> Sajuta i though you were romanian :))
[01:26] <Sajuta> millertime_018: Okay, what step are you on?
[01:26] <CaptainMorgan> SpartanII117, returns nothing in both regular user and sudo user
[01:26] <millertime_018> neither! can openoffice3 even be put on 8.04?
[01:27] <Spreadsheet> hmm
[01:27] <cllaudyu> Sajuta thks i'l get on the job right now
[01:27] <TiMiDo> bin1010, with sudo?
[01:27] <millertime_018> and how much better is intrepid ibex?
[01:27] <Spreadsheet> it never asked me for a root password
[01:27] <Spreadsheet> sorry coming from debian
[01:27] <SpartanII117> ok, than ikd if there is a php executible
[01:27] <kitche> !upgrade > MarkyP\
[01:27] <bin1010> via the upgrade from the synaptic package manager
[01:27] <kitche> !upgrade > MarkyP
[01:27] <TiMiDo> bin1010, do this sudo passwd
[01:27] <bin1010> so yes....
[01:27] <TiMiDo> and then put a root password.
[01:27] <MarkyP> thanks kitche
[01:27] <mammamia> hello
[01:27] <apo_> foxwoods: Get the package, put it on a [flash drive, CD, floppy, tape], plug into machine, install with sudo dpkg -i <file>
[01:28] <mammamia> !list
[01:28] <TiMiDo> hello mammamia
[01:28] <foxwoods> apo_:ok....where would I find the package? And which ones would I need? (just kernel-image, or kernel-image & headers)
[01:28] <TiMiDo> foxwoods, apt-cache search linux-image
[01:28] <foxwoods> can't apt-cache serach
[01:28] <foxwoods> don't have internet :P
[01:28] <Etherael> hey guys, anyone have any experience with heterogenous resolution dual headed displays on an ATI card w / compiz? I'm not getting any results, compiz script fails saying not enough memory for textures (with a fake resolution it's checking for)
[01:28] <apo_> foxwoods: You can find the packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/
[01:29] <TiMiDo> foxwoods, oh ic are you on behind an ubuntu. os right now?
[01:29] <apo_> foxwoods: You probably won't need the kernel headers.
[01:29] <foxwoods> apo_: I need to compile ndiswrapper and install it
[01:29] <myvo> new problem....just installed mplayer and the xv video device wont work, it says error opening/initializing -vo, if i change to x11 video mode, the size of the video wont scale to the size of the screen
[01:29] <CaptainMorgan> qpdb, SpartanII117 how do I install php so that I can find the executable? sudo apt-get install php5 fails because it's already installed....
[01:30] <gunavara> guys i have a question, i am using ubuntu 8.04 now, is there a way, a command i can use to upgrade it directly from internet to the latest 8.10 version ?
[01:30] <apo_> foxwoods: Then you might need it. Out of pure interest, what's your wifi card?
[01:30] <foxwoods> d-link dwl-g1323
[01:30] <foxwoods> 132*
[01:30] <TiMiDo> gunavara, you can update you're source.list and then update to 8.10
[01:30] <apo_> foxwoods: I see. http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/base/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic <-- package is here, btw
[01:31] <gunavara> TiMiDo, can u please give me a tip exactly how to do it, i'm a newbie
[01:31] <foxwoods> apo_: I need an older one
[01:31] <usser> CaptainMorgan, sudo apt-get install php-cli
[01:31] <TiMiDo> gunavara, give me one second please.
[01:31] <ironmedic> terrestre i looked over that file and it did not help me.  thanks for looking though
[01:31] <apo_> foxwoods: Oh. Try looking in dapper, then :P
[01:31] <foxwoods> don't need that far back
[01:31] <terrestre> ironmedic, ooh sad
[01:31] <usser> CaptainMorgan, php-cli should depend on latest php packages but you can always specify explicitly php5-cli
[01:32] <EatShrooms>  Hi folks, I want to reinstall ubuntu. How can I do this?
[01:32] <pawan> hi
[01:32] <myvo> any ideas why xv mode won't work with mplayer? thanks
[01:32] <CaptainMorgan> usser, just what I was looking for ! thank you
[01:32] <usser> CaptainMorgan, no problem
[01:32] <Lytle> help please, can not unmount windows partioton on linux
[01:33] <pawan> i am using live cd of 8.04 how to upgrade to 8.10
[01:33] <bin1010> busybox doesnt understand sudo passwd
[01:33] <pHro_> pawan: burn an image with 8.10 on it
[01:33] <apo_> Lytle: Are you using sudo?
[01:33] <bin1010> all it knows is ls , cd, cat and a few other things.
[01:33] <ironmedic> im so frustrated with this resolution problem. i cant do anything with 800x600 :(
[01:33] <TiMiDo> gunavara: are you using gnome?
[01:33] <usser> Lytle, what does it say?
[01:34] <apo_> EatShrooms: Just like you installed it. Don't forget backups.
[01:34] <pawan> any other way using synaptic
[01:34] <bin1010> not even vi
[01:34] <gunavara> TiMiDo, yes gnome
[01:34] <bin1010> :(
[01:34] <TiMiDo> okey
[01:34] <usser> ironmedic, what video card are u using?
[01:34] <EatShrooms> apo_ I didn't install it though..
[01:34] <apo_> bin1010: You don't need sudo in busybox, I'd think.
[01:34] <Lytle> you are not privliged to unmount this volume
[01:34] <TiMiDo> gunavara: click on System then administration and then on Software Sources
[01:34] <ironmedic> intel i815 integrated graphics chip on intrepid.  i can run 1024 on windows and puppy linux
[01:34] <usser> Lytle, put sudo in front of the command
[01:34] <foxwoods> apo_: I'm a pentium d, am I 386 or 686......686, right?
[01:34] <apo_> EatShrooms: Oh. Just burn a CD with ubuntu, set your BIOS to boot from CD before HDD, then boot.
[01:34] <bmk789> since when does transmission not dock to the tray?
[01:34] <anhdh> can smb help me,  i don't know what i've done but after i try to install connect player with wine my system become too slow both start and shut down :((
[01:34] <apo_> foxwoods: Yeah
[01:34] <bin1010> it says....root=uuid=blahblahblah not found....how do i fix that from busybox
[01:35] <usser> ironmedic, shouldnt have any problems can u open a terminal
[01:35] <gunavara> ok what's next
[01:35] <pHro_> pawan: no man, it stores everything in ram
[01:35] <EatShrooms> apo_: alrighty, thanks
[01:35] <pHro_> just burn a new cd
[01:35] <ironmedic> yes
[01:35] <TiMiDo> gunavara: then you'll see an option that Says updates. click on it. and click the first too squares. and then check on Release upgrade.
[01:35] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Hi, is there a good media ceneter for ubuntu that also records TV? I was looking at XBMX but it has no TV support that I can find and I dont want to use MythTV since I also want to use the computer
[01:35] <TiMiDo> gunavara: and click on Normal Releases
[01:35] <apo_> EatShrooms: You'll get a menu with an Install Ubuntu option. Just choose that, then do what is said on the screen. It's pretty easy.
[01:35] <ironmedic> usser, terminal is up
[01:35] <gunavara> ok done
[01:36] <usser> ironmedic, do glxinfo | grep intel
[01:36] <Black_Dragon> I made upgrade of ubuntu and from boot it is paused, necessary there to be pressuring any keyboard key to continue. how to come back to be automatic?
[01:36] <bobertdos> What aspect of CUPS has caused my HP Deskjet 5440 to break in Ibex?
[01:36] <usser> ironmedic, does it return anything?
[01:36] <Lytle> any ideas?
[01:36] <TiMiDo> gunavara: after that close that down. and click on Administration again and click on Update Manager this time
[01:36] <usser> ironmedic, err grep Intel rather
[01:36] <ironmedic> ok 1 sec
[01:36] <gunavara> ah i see it !
[01:36] <TiMiDo> then upgrade it =)
[01:37] <TiMiDo> Simple and easy =)
[01:37] <anhdh> can smb help me,  i don't know what i've done but after i try to install connect player with wine my system become too slow both start and shut down :((
[01:37] <ironmedic> usser, it says it is not installed
[01:37] <gunavara> thank you alot TiMiDo  :))
[01:37] <foxwoods> apo_: should I already have initrd-tools installed?
[01:37] <TiMiDo> np gunavara
[01:37] <usser> ironmedic, glxinfo is not installed?
[01:37] <usser> ironmedic, try just glxinfo
[01:37] <ironmedic> ok
[01:38] <apo_> foxwoods: Well, since every kernel depends on them, yes, they should be installed.
[01:38] <ironmedic> it says it is not installed
[01:38] <bin1010> my guess is I am pretty sure that my ubuntu before the upgrade was not using the uuid stuff, then after reboot during upgrade process, i started getting this error... root=uuid:blayblah not found...I can see the hdc which should be the root from /dev/partitions....how do I tell it to try that one.  i've tried mount / /dev/sdc but that didnt work either
[01:38] <ironmedic> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[01:38] <ironmedic> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[01:38] <ironmedic> bash: glxinfo: command not found
[01:38] <usser> ironmedic, alright thats weird, its part of default installation? are using customized install or something?
[01:38] <ironmedic> i am using xunbuntu
[01:38] <usser> ironmedic, do taht sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[01:39] <ironmedic> Package mesa-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:39] <ironmedic> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:39] <ironmedic> is only available from another source
[01:39] <ironmedic> E: Package mesa-utils has no installation candidate
[01:39] <FloodBot2> ironmedic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <ironmedic> sorry
[01:39] <erikg> so i upgraded to intrepid... now my keyboard mapping in x is borked (x thinks that, e.g. left arrow is actually Alt_R, the Super key is NoSymbol...).  i verified via xev.  any ideas of how to rectify the issue?
[01:40] <usser> ironmedic, that is weird
[01:40] <usser> ironmedic, something is wrong with your installation
[01:40] <ironmedic> does having xubuntu have anything to do with it?
[01:40] <usser> ironmedic, can u pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:41] <chadeldridge> erikg: did you specify anything weird with your keyboard setup while installing ?
[01:41] <erikg> chadeldridge: no
[01:41] <ironmedic> ok 1 sec
[01:41] <usser> ironmedic, no mesa-utils is a universal package
[01:41] <usser> !pastebin | ironmedic
[01:41] <erikg> chadeldridge: i just updated to intrepid, then dist-upgraded until everything stabilizied
[01:41] <ironmedic> ok i am new to this stuff so i am learning quick
[01:41] <chadeldridge> erikg: just try to setup xorg again.  jump to another shell and sudo killall gdm and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   setup your keyboard in thre again
[01:41] <DJ_Unibob> wow, 1427 users in here.  O.O
[01:42] <DJ_Unibob> and I'm 2 of them.  :p
[01:42] <erikg> chadeldridge: interestingly... aptitude is telling me that xserver libs have all been 'held back'
[01:42] <chadeldridge> erikg:  sudo update-manager -d
[01:42] <hahahahah> test
[01:42] <DJ_Unibob> do you guys by chance have like a "general chat" type channel or just this one?
[01:43] <chadeldridge> DJ_Unibob: !ot
[01:43] <gunavara> TiMiDo, i have downloaded the update and now it says 20 mins to upgrade and i'm done. will i lose any settings like video drivers, sound drivers ?
[01:43] <Lytle> how can I get tempary status as root?
[01:43] <lavacano201014> DJ_Unibob: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <chadeldridge> !ot | DJ_Unibob
[01:43] <TiMiDo> gunavara: nope
[01:43] <DJ_Unibob> roger, thanks guys
[01:43] <chadeldridge> np
[01:43] <gunavara> ah great, u got a beer from me :)
[01:43] <DJ_Unibob> sending my laptop there as well
[01:43] <TiMiDo> cool send it by UPS
[01:43] <myvo> can i downgrade my version of x11?
[01:43] <TiMiDo> or. FEDEX
[01:43] <TiMiDo> myvo: why would you do that?
[01:43] <audity> is there a way to change servers to something not in the pre-made list? i wanna get to irc.dynastynet.net
[01:44] <xorlim> audity: /server irc.dynastynet.net
[01:44] <myvo> timido i believe i am using 7.4 which is not supported by ati proprietary drivers...i would be happy using this version if i could find if the open source version supported my hd3200 integrated graphics
[01:44] <audity> heuheuhe thanks
[01:44] <lavacano201014> audity: Do you use any other servers besides the ones in the list?
[01:44] <ironmedic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/68648/
[01:45] <dfrey|work> Is it possible to have your entire filesystem under software RAID?  I vaguely remember that there may have been problems with /boot in the past
[01:45] <usser> ironmedic, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:45] <TiMiDo> myvo: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[01:45] <brantlymedders> Is someone willing to help me puzzle out why, despite using the server kernel, that my system can only address 4gigs of ram?
[01:46] <TiMiDo> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 or the version you want myvo
[01:46] <chadeldridge> myvo: are you using the ati beta driver ? 8.11 i think it is
[01:46] <zsquareplusc> dfrey|work: there is still, as the bootloader and BIOS dont understand software raid formated partitions
[01:46] <lavacano201014> brantlymedders: Are you using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu?
[01:46] <myvo> chadeldridge i was not aware of an 8.11 version
[01:46] <Bangers> How do I install VMWare Server in JeOS?
[01:46] <zsquareplusc> dfrey|work: at least kernel and initrd must be loaded from a normal disk
[01:46] <Bangers> Does it want a GUI?
[01:46] <lavacano201014> myvo: He probably meant 8.10
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> What can I use to create and run virtual machines if I don't have hardware support for virtualization in my processor/chipset?  (eg, for testing new OS versions)
[01:47] <lavacano201014> Bangers: "sudo apt-get packagenamehere"
[01:47] <myvo> lavacano201014 8.10 does not support x11 7.4
[01:47] <ironmedic> usser: i dont fully understand what i am typing in.  im still learning this stuff as i go
[01:47] <Bangers> lavacano201014: whats the package name for vmware server
[01:47] <bin1010> so is there a place to change the root it is looking for from within the busybox shell it puts me into?
[01:47] <myvo> timido i think you mean apt-cache policy x11-common which shows 7.4
[01:47] <brantlymedders> lavacano201014: Yes, with the server kernel.
[01:47] <lavacano201014> brantlymedders: No need to notice me, but there's your problem.
[01:47] <usser> ironmedic, the above command basically lists the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <TiMiDo> myvo: is that the version?
[01:47] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: would using the 64 bit version help?
[01:47] <chadeldridge> myvo:  i mean the catalyst 8.11 driver ... let me find it
[01:47] <ironmedic> i typed it in and it does not recognize it
[01:47] <lavacano201014> 32 Bit OSes can only support 4 GB of ram
[01:48] <TiMiDo> then installed it with the command I've give you myvo =)
[01:48] <brantlymedders> zsquareplusc: I only have a 32bit processor.
[01:48] <dfrey|work> zsquareplusc: So essentially, it is impossible to create a system that can survive a disk failure of the disk containing the /boot partition?
[01:48] <brantlymedders> lavacano201014: I thought PAE allowed a system to address more than 4 gigs of ram?
[01:48] <TiMiDo> brb coffee time
[01:48] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: what is it for a processor?
[01:48] <myvo> timido x11-common shows 7.4 but i dunno what xserver-xorg-core version i need..i dont know if i install one version of this and a different version of that if it will break anything
[01:48] <lavacano201014> brantlymedders: I thought that was Microsoft only.
[01:48] <ironmedic> usser: give me a second to get this worked out
[01:48] <MarkyP> hey still cant upgrade my ubuntu
[01:48] <usser> ironmedic, sure
[01:48] <MarkyP> says there is no updates
[01:49] <lavacano201014> MarkyP: Try this
[01:49] <zsquareplusc> dfrey|work: i guess you'd need to backup /boot separately as it isnt on the raid itself
[01:49] <MarkyP> im on a old version
[01:49] <lavacano201014> MarkyP: "sudo apt-get upgrade", just to make sure, then "sudo apt-get distupgrade"
[01:49] <MarkyP> 5.10
[01:49] <brantlymedders> zsquareplusc: About $100 for a Pentium D 840, which the max my motherboard will support.
[01:49] <lavacano201014> Whoa.
[01:49] <lavacano201014> MarkyP: You're going to need a LiveCD of 8.10
[01:49] <MarkyP> o :(
[01:49] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: and you have  more trhan 4GB of RAM in a 32bit machine?
[01:50] <MarkyP> i guess ill have 2 download and burn the iso then
[01:50] <MarkyP> was just trying 2 avoid that option lol
[01:50] <MarkyP> thanks
[01:50] <brantlymedders> zsquareplusc:  It was cheaper to buy 4gigs than 3gigs, and I was ignorant at the time.
[01:50] <Lytle> i mounted mindows partition with ntfs-config, now i can not unmount it.
[01:50] <dfrey|work> zsquareplusc: Just to be clear, /boot is the *only* part of the filesystem that would need to be on a normal partition right?
[01:50] <zsquareplusc> dfrey|work: as iu under
[01:51] <dfrey|work> thx
[01:51] <zsquareplusc> dfrey|work: as iu understand, yes
[01:51] <myvo> chadeldridge i found this quote on the phoronix forum....Nope the Version in Intrepid is the 8.10 with a Hotfix for xserver 1.5 and not the 8.11
[01:51] <fwaokda> I'm trying to write a "heapify" function - http://codepad.org/Brix848e - I don't think it's working properly. Can someone take a look at it? Or if you know where the source code for a heapify function is that would be helpful too. thanks!
[01:51] <fwaokda> sry wrong channel :P
[01:51] <ironmedic> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68652/
[01:51] <foxwoods> apo_: running into problem with modutils
[01:51] <ironmedic> usser:  i figured it out lol! :)
[01:51] <bin1010> this looks very similar to the error I am getting....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924202
[01:51] <foxwoods> apo_: the current kernel uses module-init-tools, whereas I need modutils for a previous kernel
[01:51] <foxwoods> apo_:how do I handle this?
[01:51] <myvo> all of these versions of saying x, x11, xserver, xorg is very confusing...why is it xserver 1.5 in this context but x11-7.4 or x.org-7.4 in another context
[01:51] <mneptok> lavacano201014: it's "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (with a hyphen) and that command will not get you a new version
[01:52] <jpastore> why do I feel like I get punished everytime I upgrade ubuntu
[01:52] <brantlymedders> zsquareplusc:  If it's impossible to address the max ram, then so be it, though I was fairly certain that the server-kernel's CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y would allow me to address up to 64 gigs of ram
[01:52] <kitche> jpastore: probably because you upgrade to fast
[01:52] <lavacano201014> mneptok: I remember doing it with "distupgrade", though it could be "dist-upgrade"
[01:52] <lavacano201014> It's how I got from Feisty to Gutsy once
[01:52] <apo_> foxwoods: Uh, I don't know. Can't you just install modutils?
[01:52] <foxwoods> apo_: no, they conflict
[01:52] <mneptok> lavacano201014: "dist-upgrade" will not do that, i assure you.
[01:53] <foxwoods> apo_: module-init-tools is supposed to replace modutils
[01:53] <dfrey|work> fwaokda: put heapify above buildHeap
[01:53] <jpastore> kitche, too fast? what's too fast? I thought that was the point of release candidates and betas
[01:53] <lavacano201014> mneptok: Have they removed the functionality?
[01:53] <mneptok> lavacano201014: it was never there in the first place.
[01:53] <usser> ironmedic, im not sure whats wrong your sources.list is fine
[01:53] <apo_> foxwoods: Hm... I assume removing module-init-tools would create major breakage?
[01:53] <lavacano201014> mneptok: It was, I swear I've done it.
[01:53] <foxwoods> apo_: I tried, it looked like it
[01:53] <dfrey|work> fwaokda: alternatively, declare your functions in a header file.
[01:53] <dtom_> anyone recommend a good way to update mono to 1.9.1 or newer on ubuntu desktop 8.04 64 bit?
[01:53] <usser> ironmedic, do u have internet connection? is xubuntu cd still in drive?
[01:53] <mneptok> lavacano201014: dist-upgrade gets you new kernels for your current version, not a new release.
[01:53] <apo_> foxwoods: Then I have no idea, sorry :|
[01:53] <foxwoods> apo_: but it shouldn't matter to me If I'm able to install the old kernel
[01:53] <kitche> jpastore: you upgrading to early a lot of times RC and Beta's don't get all of the bugs since not a lot of people run them
[01:53] <MarkyP> When did 8.10 get released?
[01:54] <lavacano201014> mneptok: Hmm.
[01:54] <foxwoods> apo_: I'm gonna do it and I'll see what happens :)
[01:54] <apo_> foxwoods: Good luck
[01:54] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: i'm not sure if a 32 bit proc can address more than 64GB. i'd assume that is a feature for 64 bit OS
[01:54] <lavacano201014> mneptok: Well, I was right in remembering I upgraded something.
[01:54] <kitche> jpastore: usually they only get major serious bugs not hardware specific bugsd
[01:54] <ironmedic> usser: i can put the CD in the drive
[01:54] <bin1010> this is similar too https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/50008
[01:54] <kingjokin> Ive got a huge problem.. newbu here
[01:54] <usser> ironmedic, do it
[01:54] <chadeldridge> myvo: is this your issue :  https://bugs.launchpad.net/fglrx/+bug/289628
[01:54] <kingjokin> newbi
[01:54] <usser> ironmedic, when its inside do sudo apt-get update
[01:54] <lavacano201014> kingjokin: OK, what's your problem?
[01:54] <kingjokin> I installed the bootloader on my vista partition by accident. now i can boot into it
[01:55] <fwaokda> dfrey|work, I just took the function definitions from the file nothing else....
[01:55] <mneptok> brantlymedders: have a look at PAE and the sevre kernel
[01:55] <mneptok> *server
[01:55] <brantlymedders> mneptok: I'm running the server kernel
[01:55] <lavacano201014> kingjokin: So you can't boot into Ubuntu. Do you have any important files or anything?
[01:55] <lavacano201014> (Probably not, but still nice to ask)
[01:55] <kingjokin> im on ubuntu now
[01:55] <bin1010> is there a way to reinstall from CD without loosing all my settings, home dir, etc>
[01:55] <kingjokin> cant boot into vista
[01:55] <brantlymedders> mneptok:  I get exactly the same information from free when running either kernel.
[01:56] <kitche> bin1010: use the alternate cd
[01:56] <jpastore> kitche, this isn't a hardware problem. python-setuptools broke and I'm getting a ton of complaints and evolution spell check is broken.
[01:56] <lavacano201014> kingjokin: Not sure whether or not you need to get into ##windows, but do you have any files on Vista?
[01:56] <seps1816>  so i bought a PNY Geforce gx 5200 card today and installed the drivers and it wouldnt work and loaded text mode
[01:56] <jpastore> kitche, it's always all kinds of annoying problems not just expected problems like nvidia drivers
[01:56] <seps1816> can anyone please help me
[01:56] <kingjokin> lots of work and pictures and everytthing
[01:56] <TiMiDo> seps1816: what's wrong?
[01:56] <myvo> chadeldridge not really...i did start with 8.04 a few days ago and the restricted driver manager did not automatically pick up my ati graphics so i thought 8.10 might be better....upon first boot i tried to install the restricted driver and it didnt seem to work right, it seemed to me that it installed too quickly. i rebooted to test it out and thats when i got "dkms kernel auto installatin fglrx fail" and gnome started in safe graphics m
[01:56] <myvo> ode, until i did a dpkg-reconfigure of X and now i'm on the default software renderer
[01:56] <Addy> Server (http://storage.us.to) Uptime: 2wks 1day 21hrs 44mins 16secs
[01:56] <lavacano201014> kingjokin: OK, do you have a burner and some blank CDs?
[01:57] <kingjokin> yeah
[01:57] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: as i understand, your CPU does support 64 bits. i'd try installing the 64 bit version of ubuntu if you have a free partition
[01:57] <lavacano201014> Or a removable media like a stick drive?
[01:57] <myvo> im not getting corrupted 3D because X won't even start with fglrx
[01:57] <jpastore> kitche, wifi got worse last update and now I can't push a large amount of data without getting disconnected from my network...
[01:57] <ironmedic> usser: it is doing its thing now
[01:57] <brantlymedders> zsquareplusc:  No, my CPU doesn't, it's a pentium 4 HT, basically the last 32 bit processor intel made
[01:57] <MatBoy> is it possible to dualboot windows xp after you install ubuntu first ?
[01:57] <lavacano201014> kingjokin: Burn your Vista's "C:\Users\You" folder onto discs through Ubuntu (I like K3B), then level Vista and start over
[01:57] <TiMiDo> MatBoy: nope
[01:57] <seps1816> ok so i got the card installed ubuntu bought up the drivers thing so i installed it and then when i restarted it didnt load the normal boot screen it paused for a bit then went into text mode
[01:57] <usser> ironmedic, ok
[01:57] <kitche> jpastore: yes wifi is a hardware issue most likely considering that some of Linux drivers are bit unstable
[01:58] <brantlymedders> zsquareplusc:  The 64 bit kernel won't boot, I tried the live cd and no luck
[01:58] <lavacano201014> TiMiDo: Actually it is
[01:58] <TiMiDo> MatBoy: you need to installed windows and then ubuntu. and then grub will pick up you're new OS
[01:58] <kingjokin> i cant see files from here
[01:58] <MatBoy> TiMiDo: damn that sucks
[01:58] <lavacano201014> MatBoy: There's something you add into the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but I don't remember it
[01:58] <TiMiDo> lavacano201014: ?
[01:58] <geev> i see like i have two kenel installed in my computer ho to correct it any body help
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: hm. google turned up results with "dual core" and one article mentioned 64 bits. oh well
[01:58] <MatBoy> lavacano201014: that would be nice :)
[01:58] <lavacano201014> I haven't dualbooted in a long time
[01:59] <MatBoy> so I could make a partition and try it :)
[01:59] <MatBoy> I need it :S
[01:59] <cs_student> !cair-dock
[01:59] <zsquareplusc> brantlymedders: sorry, i cant help you
[01:59] <kingjokin> Im not sure where to find them. there is no trace of them
[01:59] <geev> i find this when i start my computer
[01:59] <ironmedic> usser: i am assuming i will be doing updates for a while?
[01:59] <Lytle> plz hlp me
[01:59] <seps1816> any ideas TiMiDo
[01:59] <usser> ironmedic, not really it shouldnt take more than 5 minutes
[02:00] <MatBoy> lavacano201014: I never dualbooted with linux ;)
[02:00] <MatBoy> never needed too :D
[02:00] <ironmedic> usser: i am done now
[02:00] <lavacano201014> MatBoy: Make a blank partition for a seperate Ubuntu installation, then install Windows like you planned, then install the second Ubuntu.
[02:00] <kingjokin> there is no way to just move the bootloader?
[02:00] <dingbat> okay under system -> settings  i no longer have -> language support, how do i add that? in synaptic package manager it isn't listed as an option
[02:00] <korogiannos> What do I need to add to fstab to guarantee "/dev/sda1 on /media/250GB type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)" is mounted every reboot (even with unclean shutdown of XP)?
[02:00] <kingjokin> or uninstall it. or something..?
[02:00] <lavacano201014> MatBoy: That partition will have the menu.lst entries you need
[02:00] <TiMiDo> or get rid off XP =)
[02:01] <usser> ironmedic, try sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[02:01] <ironmedic> ok
[02:01] <Lytle> waffel: plz help me
[02:01] <dingbat> language support
[02:01] <dingbat> failing miserable
[02:01] <korogiannos> shared PC, That's my aim.  But my flatmates play worms and I need to make a "1-click" solution to quit XP forever
[02:01] <TiMiDo> Lytle: ask you're question away.
[02:02] <MatBoy> lavacano201014: mhh, little bit complex :)
[02:02] <ironmedic> usser: it is reading the database now.  please stand by
[02:02] <pangloss> TiMiDo: your*
[02:02] <TiMiDo> lol
[02:02] <zsquareplusc> korogiannos: install wormux for them ;-)
[02:02] <Lytle> how can i unmount my windows paartition(i used ntfs-config to mount it)
[02:02] <ironmedic> usser:  it is fully installed and done now
[02:02] <TiMiDo> Lytle: umount /device
[02:02] <geev> i see like i have two kenel installed in my computer i find this when i start the computer ho to correct it any body help
[02:02] <korogiannos> ﻿zsquareplusc: I did, but they don't like the "power bar"
[02:03] <dingbat> Language support NE?
[02:03] <TiMiDo> geev: do you use the two kernels? or you use just one?
[02:03] <usser> ironmedic, nice now try glxinfo | grep Intel
[02:03] <nickrud> geev, it's ok to have more than one kernel; most people keep two around, in case there's problems with the latest
[02:03] <Lytle> i can not, i am not privligedto unmount this device
[02:03] <TiMiDo> Lytle: sudo umount /device.
[02:03] <pangloss> Lytle: sudo unmount /device
[02:03] <ironmedic> usser: i ran that command and it gave me a new prompt, did not say anything
[02:03] <pangloss> umount*
[02:03] <djhash> if I added a script to init.d how can I make sure it restarts if the application it started crashes?
[02:04] <minimec>  MatBoy You can install any windows OS after Ubuntu and then use Supergrub (http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/) to recreate a bootable master + grub on your harddisk
[02:04] <nickrud> geev, but if you really want to remove one (the old one!) you can do it with synaptic
[02:04] <TiMiDo> djhash: sudo /etc/init.d/apps name restart;
[02:04] <pangloss> I always wondered why they didnt just make the comman unmount....
[02:04] <usser> ironmedic, hm try just glxinfo  and pastebin the results
[02:04] <ironmedic> ok i did that too
[02:04] <geev> nickrud: ok so let me leave this because i dont have problem with it
[02:04] <nickrud> pangloss, because when the command was created, commands could only be a max of 6 chars long
[02:04] <veritos> What's the Compiz plugin that provides the Alt-Shift-{Left,Right} effects?
[02:04] <Lytle> sudo: unmount: command not found
[02:04] <dingbat> alas
[02:04] <veritos> Ctrl-Alt-{Left,Right}*
[02:04] <korogiannos> can I mount /dev/sda1 (ntfs) every time I reboot EVEN if XP shut down was unclean?
[02:04] <TiMiDo> Lytle: is sudo umount /device
[02:04] <pangloss> nickrud: thanks for the history =)
[02:05] <djhash> TiMiDo: that will just restart it now.. i want it to restart whenever it crashes
[02:05] <nickrud> pangloss, I used to have an alias to unmount myself ;)
[02:05] <geev> nickrud: in case of problem it might be my advantage thanks for your explanation
[02:05] <ironmedic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/68656/
[02:05] <ironmedic> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68656/
[02:05] <nickrud> geev, you're welcome
[02:06] <Lytle> is sudo umount /device is what it tells me
[02:06] <TiMiDo> djhash: sysv-rc-conf foobar on
[02:06] <Lytle> sudo: unmout: command not found is the same message i get
[02:06] <TiMiDo> Lytle: on dude is not unmount is umount
[02:06] <pangloss> Lytle: open a terminal and type in:   sudo umount /<the partition you want to unmount>
[02:07] <usser> ironmedic, ok that looks good
[02:07] <usser> ironmedic, type xrandr and pastebin output
[02:07] <ironmedic> usser: one second
[02:07] <geev> nickrud: the second issue i face is when i press power down button then after it comes up i dont find shutdown or restart how can i recover this
[02:07] <TiMiDo> djhash: did it work?
[02:07] <PCJunkie> Is there no way to disable or remove the pidgin status options from the FUSA?
[02:08] <Lytle> umount: /desktop notthe windows partition is called) fund (desktop is what
[02:08] <TiMiDo> Lytle: /desktop is not a partion point. is it?
[02:08] <rainvoice> Hi, when i try to run krita 1.6.3 on Ubuntu Hardy 64bit, amd quad-core, it crashes instantly. Any ideas?
[02:08] <ironmedic> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68657/
[02:08] <nickrud> geev, that I'm not sure about.
[02:08] <xorlim> it seems Fallout won't run easily on WINE in Ubuntu if I use "wine SETUP.EXE".
[02:08] <Lytle> what do u mean? it is mounted in media
[02:09] <geev> nickrud: shutdown my computer using terminal comman if am require to do it
[02:09] <nickrud> geev, do you see the shutdown button on the login screen?
[02:09] <MatBoy> lavacano201014: http://ranacse05.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/grub-recovery-after-installing-windows-xp/
[02:09] <usser> ironmedic, you're using intrepid right?
[02:09] <djhash> TiMiDo: just installing it..
[02:09] <dingbat> guys i'm \trying to install a package and i keep getting the error that its unable to do it because another program is using it... what does that mean?
[02:09] <pangloss> Lytle: what is the exact folder your windows stuff is mounted in?
[02:09] <ironmedic> usser, yes i am
[02:09] <Lytle> 1 min
[02:09] <TiMiDo> okey djhash
[02:10] <n8tuser> dingbat-> exit out of synaptic or dpkg
[02:10] <TiMiDo> dingbat: that some program is using the program.
[02:10] <dingbat> i've exited out of it
[02:10] <TiMiDo> dingbat: do ps x|grep synaptic
[02:10] <geev> nickrud: i see logout lock screen hibernet and suspend only
[02:10] <TiMiDo> and if you see that there is a pid kill it.
[02:10] <Lytle> filesystem /media
[02:10] <raker> zxcvkjl
[02:10] <korogiannos> is it possible to have an fstab entry for an ntfs partition that mounts on reboot even if XP shutdown was unclean?
[02:10] <pangloss> Lytle: /media/what?
[02:11] <Lytle> desktop
[02:11] <nickrud> geev, the one I'm talking about is the one you see on first starting the computer; if you use logout now, you'll be at the screen I'm talking about
[02:11] <dingbat> timido: okay now i have the pid... can i kill pid?
[02:11] <pangloss> Lytle: alright.. so do:  sudo umount /media/desktop
[02:11] <dingbat> or something else?
[02:11] <TiMiDo> dingbat: yeah do kill -9 pid
[02:11] <dingbat> its saying kill - no such process
[02:11] <n8tuser> korogiannos-> you need to have the ntfs partition  coming from a clean shutdown or else reading it from ubuntu will not happen or its messed up
[02:12] <TiMiDo> dingbat: how about sudo kill -9 pid
[02:12] <usser> ironmedic, hm...
[02:12] <Lytle> k i get it now, now it is unmounted... Thank u
[02:12] <pangloss> Lytle: n/p
[02:12] <korogiannos> ﻿n8tuser: many thanks.  In other words, it's not possible or Highly unrecomended I take it?
[02:12] <geev> nickrud: iven there i dont find them
[02:12] <dingbat> ah... well what i was killing was the grep for synaptic
[02:12] <dingbat> apparently nothing was running
[02:12] <dingbat> shutdown restart
[02:12] <TiMiDo> hmm okey.
[02:12] <dingbat> ?
[02:13] <TiMiDo> dingbat: lol
[02:13] <n8tuser> korogiannos-> always shutdown properly in xp..or else per what i said
[02:13] <dingbat> can i kill gnome somehow?\ its been a long time since i used linix
[02:13] <dingbat> ux
[02:13] <TiMiDo> dingbat: try installing a package.
[02:13] <dingbat> i did... still same error
[02:13] <TiMiDo> dingbat: ps x|grep gnome-session and kill it
[02:13] <nickrud> geev, ok, go to system->admin->login window, and check on the local tab: does it have the 'show actions menu' enabled?
[02:13] <lucax> anyone know how to enable direct rendering for just one users?
[02:13] <syli725> Can anyone tell me how to read "L=5  SS=128  Size=300000380  NL=3648  Status=3  DT=1568  BT=2513" format? from the link http://pastebin.com/d484a16e8
[02:14] <syli725> OR if you know what keywords should I look for in google? right now, I have no idea where to find those information....
[02:14] <n8tuser> lucax-> what does that mean? direct rendering ?
[02:14] <lucax> i want to let one user use 3d effects... but not the first one that logs in
[02:14] <n8tuser> syli725-> sed  parsing
[02:14] <syli725> I need to calculate the exact size in bytes for those VD for recovery. The RAID gorups are disappeared from the raid card...
[02:14] <dingbat> timido: its not returning anything... the only things i'm seeing is the grep search... MY HEAD ASPLODE
[02:14] <dingbat> its like i dont have access to see the pid's
[02:15] <dingbat> whats up with that"?
[02:15] <TiMiDo> lucax: you have to install your graphic card driver and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[02:15] <geev> nickrud: it was not select what should i select it?
[02:15] <TiMiDo> dingbat: then you're not running gnome are you?
[02:15] <dingbat> pretty stinkin sure i am
[02:15] <dingbat> gnome is the ubuntu default isnt it?
[02:15] <TiMiDo> yeah.
[02:15] <ziroday> dingbat: correct
[02:15] <syli725> n8tuser, thanks a lot. I am looking for sed parsing in google now.
[02:15] <nickrud> geev, yes, then log out, hit ctl-alt-backspace (to restart the login window for sure) and check for the shutdown button
[02:15] <dingbat> i'm not in xfce i'll tell you that
[02:15] <TiMiDo> dingbat: then killall gnome =)
[02:15] <lucax> TiMiDo: ammm... i have an intel gma i dont believe thats possible
[02:16] <TiMiDo> then there is your answer lucax
[02:16] <dingbat> welp... i guess this is where i restart and hope forthe best
[02:16] <n8tuser> syli725-> or even awk +tokenize
[02:17] <lucax> is there any way to do that im trying to do?
[02:17] <nimandgehtvorbei> does my apache support xhtml by default?
[02:17] <TiMiDo> lucax: not unless you install the driver for your video card
[02:17] <jebblue> ﻿lucax disable advanced desktop effects ie compiz?
[02:17] <anon_> helo
[02:17] <nickrud> nimandgehtvorbei, yes
[02:17] <TiMiDo> nimandgehtvorbei: of course
[02:17] <lucax> jebblue: ive done that
[02:17] <anon_> is ubuntu intrepid pretty buggy
[02:17] <anon_> it seems
[02:17] <jebblue> ﻿lucax no i was asking :-)
[02:17] <TiMiDo> anon_: of course. it is. report bugs.
[02:17] <lucax> TiMiDo: i have em installed otherwise i wouldnt use them at all
[02:18] <nickrud> anon_, I've had much fewer problems with intrepid than any other release I've used myself (since warty)
[02:18] <anon_> it seems like i can only save in desktop
[02:18] <brandon_> with firefox?
[02:18] <rumblefish> Hay. I just installed my nvidea video card driver. I set the resolution to 1024x768. works fine but when I restart the system it goes back to 800x600. Is there a way to fix this.
[02:18] <anon_> any program
[02:18] <storrgie> I would like to install a window manager (Gnome) on ubuntu server, but I only want to run it selectivly (like if i want to log in to a web browser.... or is it possible for me to launch xwindows over ssh?
[02:18] <nimandgehtvorbei> nickrud: so if i make a svg image include in an html file ( the xml not the embed ) it should just work?
[02:18] <brandon_> With firefox, you have to tell it not to always save on the desktop
[02:19] <anon_> i know that
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> What's the best option for me to use to create and run virtual machines if I don't have hardware support for virtualization in my processor/chipset?  (eg, for testing new OS versions)
[02:19] <TiMiDo> lucax: glxinfo|grep render
[02:19] <nickrud> nimandgehtvorbei, I haven't tried that, but I expect so
[02:19] <anon_> but say i want to save something elsewheres its like it won't let me
[02:19] <nickrud> nimandgehtvorbei, try it and see ;)
[02:19] <situmam> Hey guys. any idea how to turn off bluetooth support permanently in intrepid?
[02:19] <anon_> i click on another folder and it doesn't open
[02:19] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso-> openvz ?
[02:19] <nimandgehtvorbei> nickrud: i get broken images
[02:19] <jebblue> ﻿lucax not sure what all you want to disable but I reckon you could go to Users and Groups, create a Group then chmod the executable for xyz to that group and put zbc users(s) in it
[02:19] <subdolus> how can I check how mch ram I have
[02:19] <lucax> direct rendering: YesOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 x86/MMX/SSE2
[02:19] <dfsadf> someone HELP please? I just got a new Dell Studio 15 with Ubuntu and when I start it up, after the dell screen and the ubuntu loading screen the screen turns to white and doesnt respond to anything. I tried reinstalling but that didnt help. I think it has something to do with the video card or resolution settings. This is the third replacement laptop I've received for this problem (i assumed it was factory error)... HELP??
[02:19] <geev> nickrud: thanks i have succeeded the exercise
[02:19] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso-> but openvz only supports for linux guest only, not windows
[02:19] <nickrud> geev, cool
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> n8tuser: what about say BSD?
[02:20] <situmam> dfsadf: do you know what chipset are you using?
[02:20] <foxwoods> dfasdf: ok, reboot your pc, and when it gets to the grub menu, press escape
[02:20] <ziroday> !resolution | rumblefish
[02:20] <anon_> seems to freeze when i close the lid on the laptop
[02:20] <lucax> its not that difficult to understand... there is just ONE user that uses DIRECT RENDERING, the other ones DONT AT ALL, i want to enable directrendering for just single user
[02:20] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso-> dont know, i have not tried BSD as guest
[02:20] <foxwoods> dfasdf: let me know when you are there
[02:20] <dfsadf> ok.
[02:20] <dfsadf> alright i am there.
[02:21] <pangloss> subdolus: $free -m
[02:21] <foxwoods> now press e on the entry you want to boot with
[02:21] <lucax> i dont know if i can creat a group called glx os something like that, and add a user there and that would be it! but i dont know if that possible
[02:21] <nickrud> nimandgehtvorbei, as a stab in the dark: you mentioned html file: is the file an html or xhtml dtd?
[02:21] <syli725> n8tuser, hi, I did search the two terms you mentioned. but the results are nothing related to how to read those hardware information and how to calculate the Virtual disk size in bytes. right now, I just want to learn how to use those parameters to calculate the disk size...
[02:21] <dfsadf> ok.
[02:21] <foxwoods> then go to the second line, the one with vmlinuz
[02:21] <foxwoods> press e
[02:21] <TiMiDo> lucax: try it and give us the feed back =)
[02:21] <ballzee> can you go back to kde3.5 in unbutu 8.10 ?
[02:21] <dfsadf> alright
[02:22] <foxwoods> go to the end, what does it say?
[02:22] <anon_> where do you report bugs
[02:22] <TiMiDo> ballzee: you mean downgrade?
[02:22] <lucax> i think ill look in google...
[02:22] <nickrud> anon_, bugs.ubuntu.com .
[02:22] <subdolus> $ free -m
[02:22] <subdolus> ksh: free: not found
[02:22] <foxwoods> dfasdf: just the end bit
[02:22] <n8tuser> syli725-> those key words i suggested is to let you parse the line, tokenize it,  so then you can manipulate each token $word let say
[02:22] <dfsadf> generic root=UUID=b3d602bd-b5a1-4b6d
[02:22] <nickrud> anon_, have you checked the permissions on the folder you're trying to save to? Just a stab in the dark type idea
[02:22] <dfsadf> and then an arrow pointing right
[02:22] <subdolus> pangloss: ??
[02:23] <jebblue> ﻿lucax good luck :) don't forget the chmod part
[02:23] <pangloss> subdolus: $bash
[02:23] <ballzee> i dont know if its up or down i just want the task bar to look the same
[02:23] <foxwoods> past that dfasdf
[02:23] <n8tuser> syli725-> it is up to you to give meaning on what the token is
[02:23] <pangloss> subdolus: $free -m
[02:23] <foxwoods> should be ro something something
[02:23] <dfsadf> im not sure how to scroll past the arrow?
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> n8tuser: looks like that's a no - depends on the kernel
[02:23] <foxwoods> dfsadf: use the right arrow key?
[02:24] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso-> okay..
[02:24] <foxwoods> oh, did you go to the second line?
[02:24] <ballzee> i want it to show everything running and streach a;ll the way across and have a menu on it
[02:24] <subdolus> pangloss: ah cheers.
[02:24] <dfsadf> yes, second line.
[02:24] <foxwoods> the one that has vmlinuz
[02:24] <dfsadf> yes.
[02:24] <foxwoods> find ro in that line
[02:24] <pangloss> subdolus: =) bash is your friend
[02:24] <syli725> n8tuser, I am not sure if you understand what I mean. I am not talking about parsing or scripting. I don't understand how to calculate the disk size by using the information. eg: I don't know what is L, SS, Status, Size etc... I want to learn what they are and want to learn how to calculate the disk size in bytes. My question is nothing related to scripting or programming. sorry if I confused you.
[02:24] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso-> is that what openvz.org says?
[02:24] <dfsadf> root=UUID=b3d602bd-b5a1-4b6d
[02:24] <foxwoods> hrm......
[02:24] <foxwoods> okay, escape
[02:25] <dfsadf> ok.
[02:25] <foxwoods> and tell me what each line says
[02:25] <n8tuser> syli725-> well yeah i mis-understood you.. umm that was the output of which command?
[02:25] <nimandgehtvorbei> nickrud: i called it .html does xhtml; need to be called xhtml?
[02:25] <bobbiem> could someone help me install java
[02:25] <dfsadf> ubuntu, generic. ubuntu, generic (recovery). ubuntu memtest. reinstall.
[02:25] <foxwoods> okay
[02:25] <foxwoods> first line
[02:25] <dfsadf> i've already done memtest and reinstall
[02:25] <foxwoods> then press e
[02:25] <syli725> n8tuser, my raid groups are disappeared in raid controller card. To recover it, I have to know the exact size that I assigned to each VD in the beginning. but I forgot. I don't know it's output with which command. they are RAID Controller Log....
[02:25] <dfsadf> ok
[02:25] <ziroday> !java | bobbiem have you followed these instructions?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> bobbiem: its in the repos..
[02:26] <foxwoods> tell me what the lines are now
[02:26] <alaqsory> hi all
[02:26] <n8tuser> !java | bobbiem
[02:26] <nickrud> nimandgehtvorbei, no, the dtd in the file itself; for example, <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> usually second line in the html file determines the doctype
[02:26] <dfsadf> root. kernal /boot/vmlinuz. initrd /boot/initrd. quiet.
[02:26] <foxwoods> ok
[02:26] <foxwoods> go to the one with kernel /boot/vm
[02:27] <foxwoods> and press e
[02:27] <pangloss> n8tuser: how can you get ubottu to tell you what factiods it know?
[02:27] <dfsadf> k
[02:27] <n8tuser> syli725-> sorry cant help you on your RAID controller log file, perhaps look at your raid controller vendors site?
[02:27] <dfsadf> it says ro quiet splash
[02:27] <foxwoods> right, delete quiet and splash
[02:27] <ziroday> !factoids | pangloss
[02:27] <foxwoods> so it should just say ro
[02:27] <dfsadf> done.
[02:27] <foxwoods> press escape, then b
[02:27] <syli725> n8tuser, ok, thanks a lot for the help. hopefully, someone here can give me some more hints....
[02:27] <dfsadf> ok.
[02:27] <foxwoods> tell me when it's loaded
[02:27] <foxwoods> it should put you into a console
[02:28] <foxwoods> btw, what version of ubuntu is this?
[02:28] <syli725> Hi, anyone know how to calculate disk size in bytes by using the url information: http://pastebin.com/d484a16e8
[02:28] <dfsadf> its loaded, but i am back at the white screen.
[02:28] <n8tuser> syli725-> no documentations you keep? am assuming you're a sysadmin and keep good notes.. :P
[02:29] <nickrud> rflmao, notes
[02:29] <n8tuser> or cheatsheets..hehe
[02:29] <SJr|Nbook> I'm trying to upgrade from Dapper to Hardy Ubuntu Server, I am doing 'sudo do-release-upgrade' and it just seems to have 'stopped'
[02:29] <nickrud> google has all my notes. I crib shamelessly
[02:29] <foxwoods> hrm.....absolutely white?
[02:29] <foxwoods> ok
[02:29] <foxwoods> turn it off, then boot from the recovery mode
[02:29] <foxwoods> and what's the version?
[02:30] <dfsadf> white with vertical lines of color.
[02:30] <Ragingflames> Wall-E: ?
[02:30] <Wall-E> Ragingflames: Error: "?" is not a valid command.
[02:30] <syli725> n8tuser, I am kinda sysadmin. only for server apps configuration. i know nothing about hardwares.... I have no clue with hardware problem, especially the RAID information just suddenly disappeared from the controller....
[02:30] <Ragingflames> Wall-E: help
[02:30] <Wall-E> Ragingflames: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[02:30] <Luke771> I'm upgrading to 8.10 again, last time I had to revert to 8.04 because my nvidia-glx-177 doesnt support my 9800GT and the packet nvidia-glx-new that woked perfectly want available any more. Therefore, I need either a link where I can download nvidia-glx-new or a way to start ubuntu in text mode (not with a terminal but without X at all) so I can try with the package available at the nvidia website
[02:30] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> umm dapper->to gutsy -> to hardy,  you can not skip
[02:30] <SJr|Nbook> http://pastebin.com/m2be16b97
[02:30] <SJr|Nbook> Yes you can
[02:30] <dfsadf> so go into recovery mode?
[02:30] <foxwoods> yes
[02:30] <dfsadf> ok
[02:30] <SJr|Nbook> Dapper to Hardy is supported
[02:31] <nickrud> Luke771, you should be able to use recovery mode, or hit ctl-alt-f2 to get a console on normal boot
[02:31] <Ragingflames> Wall-E: exit
[02:31] <Wall-E> Ragingflames: Error: "exit" is not a valid command.
[02:31] <foxwoods> tell me when it finishes
[02:31] <dfsadf> finished
[02:31] <foxwoods> ok, list the options for me
[02:31] <dfsadf> resume, root, xfix
[02:31] <johnfg> hey guys, why don't we have php-mbstring?  I'm going to need it for phpmyadmin.
[02:31] <foxwoods> first do xfix
[02:31] <dfsadf> k
[02:31] <foxwoods> then do resume, see if it's fixed
[02:31] <dfsadf> done
[02:32] <bin1010> is there a way to mount a hard drive without changing /etc/fstab as just a guest harddrive?  I have a sata hard drive that I just want to mount to take some stuff off of it
[02:32] <nickrud> johnfg, I just installed phpmyadmin from the packages, worked fine
[02:32] <SJr|Nbook> n8tuser: "You can directly upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS ("Hardy Heron") from Ubuntu 7.10 ("Gutsy Gibbon") or from Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ("Dapper Drake"). This page contains instructions for both. (see UpgradeNotes)" Source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[02:32] <dfsadf> nope, that didnt fix it
[02:32] <anon__> what repository is linked directly to ubunto's upgrades
[02:32] <nickrud> bin1010, sudo mount /dev/<device> /mnt , you should see the data at /mnt
[02:32] <johnfg> nickrud: Didn't it ask you for php-mbstring?  Or did you already have it installed?
[02:32] <foxwoods> okay, press CTRL-ALT-F1
[02:32] <n8tuser> syli725-> the thing is every RAID controller has its own config files and different settings, so you may luck out if you visit the vendors site and find help there?
[02:32] <dfsadf> ok
[02:32] <foxwoods> did that take you to a console?
[02:32] <dfsadf> yes
[02:32] <nickrud> johnfg, just a standard, fresh intrepid install
[02:32] <Luke771> nickrud: recovery mode enters the wrong runtime level, and when I switch to 4 it starts X, In order to use that nvidia package, I need to enter runtime level 4 without X. Would crtl-alt-F2 do that? (disable X and let me log in without X?)
[02:33] <SJr|Nbook> I'm trying to upgrade from Dapper to Hardy Ubuntu Server, I am doing 'sudo do-release-upgrade' and it just seems to have 'stopped': The last output was: http://pastebin.com/m2be16b97
[02:33] <foxwoods> ok, now login if it asks you for it, then type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (without quotes)
[02:33] <Frijolie> how much memory should I allocate to a guest OS inside VirtualBox?
[02:33] <nickrud> Luke771, clt-alt-f2, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop X, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to restart
[02:33] <foxwoods> you there?
[02:33] <SJr|Nbook> Looking at top the only thing doing anything is klogd
[02:33] <johnfg> That's what I've got, too.  But always before, with fedora, debian, opensuse, etc., I had to install php-mbstring.
[02:33] <Luke771> thx nickrud
[02:33] <pangloss> Frijolie: at least 128mb
[02:33] <nickrud> Luke771, the run levels are all the same in ubuntu by the way (as far as X is concerned)
[02:34] <pangloss> Frijolie: how much ram you have?
[02:34] <dfsadf> done
[02:34] <syli725> n8tuser, it's dell PERC 6/E card. I am searching it in google now... no luck yet.
[02:34] <v4vijayakumar> user on-line indicator is newly added into ubuntu 8.10., whats this for..?
[02:34] <dfsadf> but it didnt bring up any more text.
[02:34] <foxwoods> ok, dpkg-reconfigure is done? did you accept all the defaults?
[02:34] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> honestly, i would not do an upgrade, a fresh install is my suggested advise
[02:34] <bin1010> okay that is weird....the hard drive is intact and fine.  I moved it to another machine and I am looking at it via livecd.  df
[02:34] <Frijolie> pangloss: that's not that much. I have 2GB but plan on having a few VM installed which will be various distros
[02:34] <dfsadf> nothing happened.
[02:34] <Ragingflames> Wall-E: QUIT
[02:34] <Wall-E> Ragingflames: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[02:34] <foxwoods> nothing printed for sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:34] <SJr|Nbook> n8tuser it's not supported this is a VPS and my only option to get something relatively new is to go with an upgrade
[02:34] <dfsadf> correct
[02:34] <SJr|Nbook> Although it seems to have just been crunching packages
[02:35] <pangloss> Frijolie: as long as Vista isn involved, 128 will run the other operating systems. Programs will run slow though probably...
[02:35] <nickrud> johnfg, mbstring is built into libapache2-mod-php5
[02:35] <Frijolie> pangloss: well the memory is only allocated when the VM is running right?
[02:35] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> sorry what is a VPS ?
[02:35] <foxwoods> that's really weird.....um, reboot and run recovery mode, press root when you get there and let me know
[02:35] <SJr|Nbook> Virtual PRivate Server, it's basically a Virtual Machine
[02:35] <dfsadf> ok
[02:35] <pangloss> Frijolie: im pretty sure it pages all the memory you allocate it
[02:36] <nickrud> johnfg, as well as other php/webserver interfaces, see  apt-cache search mbstring
[02:36] <Frijolie> pangloss: so more wouldn't be harmful to my primary OS? say 512MB?
[02:36] <dfsadf> im there
[02:36] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> you can not install a new os on a VPS?  or am mis-reading you?
[02:36] <SJr|Nbook> No because it's remote
[02:36] <pangloss> Frijolie: so when you open a VM with 512 ram allocated to it, you will lose 512 from your primary OS
[02:36] <foxwoods> try running the command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <pangloss> Frijolie: it depends on what you're doing and what your needs are.
[02:36] <johnfg> I just noticed that I have the directory, /var/www, but not /var/www/html.  If I want it, will I have to reconfigure httpd.conf?
[02:36] <Frijolie> pangloss: leaving me with 1.5GB right...that's plenty isn't it?
[02:37] <dfsadf> ok
[02:37] <dfsadf> it brought up something
[02:37] <v4vijayakumar> user on-line indicator is newly added into ubuntu 8.10., whats this for..?
[02:37] <nickrud> johnfg, forget nearly everything you think you know about apache config in ubuntu :0
[02:37] <LF|Irssi> Can someone help me with mounting an external hdd? i tried mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /mnt/externalhdd/   nothing... "externalhdd" folder exist and the external hdd is /dev/sdb according to fdisk -l
[02:37] <ballzee> how can i get my kde taskbar to look like this http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/124683.png   ?
[02:37] <Frijolie> pangloss: i'm experimenting with different distros (Fedora, Kubuntu, Gentoo, openSUSE)
[02:37] <dfsadf> "use kernal framebuffer device interface"?"
[02:37] <johnfg> nickrud: OK, where do you find the config files then?
[02:37] <pangloss> Frijolie: yes 1.5 should be fine for your primary OS, and 512 will do the other OS 's justice (kinda)
[02:38] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook->you can install like virtualbox or openvz or vmware perhaps? then install the guest, you can install these remotely
[02:38] <SJr|Nbook> No I can't because it's not my host OS
[02:38] <Frijolie> pangloss: oh the dialog is only recommending 256MB per VM
[02:38] <SJr|Nbook> I only get access to the client
[02:38] <foxwoods> dfasdf: accept all the defaults
[02:38] <pangloss> Frijolie: SuSE will run like shit on 256
[02:38] <nickrud> johnfg, the config is broken down into chunks; a2enmod userdir for example, links userdir config into /etc/apache2/mods-enabled. Then when apache restarts, it builds the working http.conf from the snippets there. As well as sites-enabled, and apache2.conf and the other snippets in /etc/apache2
[02:38] <dfsadf> ok
[02:39] <n8tuser> !who  | SJr|Nbook->
[02:39] <SJr|Nbook> who?
[02:39] <n8tuser> !who |  SJr|Nbook
[02:39] <SJr|Nbook> Oh I see
[02:39] <dfsadf> um
[02:39] <dfsadf> hmm
[02:39] <Frijolie> pangloss: so the VMs are going to run slow? Like the mouse pointer will even be jumpy? They'll be at least be usable right?
[02:39] <nickrud> johnfg, it's very nice once you get the hang of it.
[02:39] <SJr|Nbook> n8tuser I only have access to the client OS at all.
[02:39] <johnfg> So basically, look at the stuff in /etc/apache2?
[02:40] <pangloss> Frijolie: yes it will work, but programs will run slow, like firefox and what not.
[02:40] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> am surprised you can even install from a client
[02:40] <Frijolie> pangloss: i'm just going to try to use them to become familiar with their idiosyncrasies and package management etc
[02:40] <SJr|Nbook> n8tuser how do I check which vesion I'm using
[02:40] <nickrud> johnfg, yes. a2enmod a2ensite a2dismod a2dissite are your key commands. If you look at the *-available dirs, you'll see what you can do with them.
[02:41] <jpastore> everytime I log in I get a complaint that the .dmrc file is being ignored. I checked the forums and set the permissions to the file to the recommendations the users posted. Still no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:41] <Frijolie> pangloss: if i want to use Firefox I'll still use that in my primary OS (Ubuntu)
[02:41] <dfsadf> it transferred me back to root where it says "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised conifuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .20081107013852
[02:41] <LF|Irssi> Can someone help me with mounting an external hdd? i tried mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /mnt/externalhdd/   nothing... "externalhdd" folder exist and the external hdd is /dev/sdb according to fdisk -l
[02:41] <pangloss> Frijolie: They're your VM's, play around with the ram sizes and you'll get a feel for it. Have fun!
[02:41] <foxwoods> great dfasdf, now type startx
[02:41] <Frijolie> pangloss: cool, thanks for your tips
[02:41] <pangloss> LF|Irssi: how does your external connect to your box? USB?
[02:41] <foxwoods> what that message means is it rewrote your xorg.conf - this is what controls your display
[02:41] <BrickHaus> How do you change your login preferences from within gnome/gdm
[02:42] <dfsadf> ok
[02:42] <dfsadf> so now what?
[02:42] <nickgaydos> goodnight fellas
[02:42] <foxwoods> did you type startx?
[02:42] <LF|Irssi> pang yes, it works (mounts) just fine in Gnome automatically, but not in KDE
[02:42] <nickrud> LF|Irssi, first, unplug the drive, run   tail -f /var/log/syslog   in a terminal, then plug the device back in. Make sure you don't see any errors in the terminal
[02:42] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> uname -r  or llsb_release -c
[02:42] <n8tuser> SJr|Nbook-> uname -r  or lsb_release -c
[02:42] <dfsadf> i just did
[02:42] <LF|Irssi> ok
[02:42] <dfsadf> aaand.... back to a weird white screen
[02:42] <Frogzoo> BrickHaus: what preferences?
[02:43] <foxwoods> damn.
[02:43] <Marcos_> cambada de pau no cu
[02:43] <nickrud> jpastore, I just delete the file completely when I get the error
[02:43] <dfsadf> :[
[02:43] <foxwoods> ok dfasdf: this is the last thing I know
[02:43] <pangloss> BrickHaus: right click on your username on the top right of the screen, and select login window
[02:43] <Marcos_> seus pau no cu
[02:43] <pangloss> Set up login screen*
[02:43] <dfsadf> alright.
[02:43] <Marcos_> halt
[02:43] <BrickHaus> pangloss: just got back home. Thanks bro.
[02:43] <jpastore> nickrud, really? I'll give that a shot.
[02:44] <Marcos_> pau no cu
[02:44] <Marcos_> seus filhos da puta
[02:44] <Marcos_> exit
[02:44] <foxwoods> dfasdf: you will need to do a reinstall
[02:44] <Marcos_> fuiiiiii
[02:44] <pangloss> BrickHaus: I though of another solution to your ethernet problem, try installing ubuntu-backports-modules
[02:44] <foxwoods> dfasdf: I know you already did this
[02:44] <dfsadf> uh, alright.
[02:45] <dfsadf> but how would that work?
[02:45] <foxwoods> but when you do, select English, then press F4
[02:45] <foxwoods> then select your display's resolution
[02:45] <dfsadf> hmm
[02:45] <dfsadf> ill try
[02:45] <foxwoods> wait before you do this though
[02:45] <foxwoods> give me a sec
[02:45] <dfsadf> ok
[02:45] <BrickHaus> pangloss: Ok.. Thanks man. I'll give that a whirl as soon as I figure out how to heck Ubuntu works with Xorg. It's like it doesn't but it kindof does.. lol
[02:46] <LF|Irssi> lol nickrud unplugging the usb drive worked, and KDE auto-mounted it Thanks :)
[02:46] <foxwoods> dfsadf: were you seeing your mouse pointer?
[02:46] <foxwoods> when the screen was white
[02:46] <dfsadf> no i was not.
[02:47] <BrickHaus> pangloss: my screen rez is 800x600 which is killing me.. 1024x768 would be a step up... I'll try emerging your backports pkg.
[02:47] <foxwoods> dfsadf: what video card driver do you have?
[02:47] <nickrud> *shudder* emerge
[02:48] <pangloss> BrickHaus: have you tried adding the screen resloution to xorg.conf?
[02:48] <dfsadf> uhh let me check
[02:48] <nodealmsft> does someone have a suggestion for flash player having video but no audio after looking at all gui settings and still not working? all other audio works
[02:48] <BrickHaus> pangloss: is there command that lets you query a given pkg name to see what's in it or some extra info before install besides just doing it?
[02:48] <foxwoods> dfsadf: and this is 8.10, right?
[02:49] <dfsadf> 8.04
[02:49] <dfsadf> is intel video?
[02:49] <nickrud> BrickHaus, you can install apt-file which does that.
[02:49] <BrickHaus> pangloss: doing that now to xorg. But I have builtin intel vid with the i810 or intel driver. I've got my screen specs
[02:49] <BrickHaus> nickrud: k.. thanks
[02:49] <pangloss> BrickHaus: for your info about package question read through this real quick http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-search.en.html
[02:50] <foxwoods> dfasdf: intel can be video, it's either intel integrated graphics, ATI, or nVidia
[02:50] <dingbat> timido: what do i do about this: This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source ?
[02:50] <dfsadf> ah yeah integrated
[02:50] <dfsadf> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[02:50] <dfsadf> Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
[02:50] <LF|Irssi> How do I created a cron ONLY for NON admin? cause the script i want to run every hour will not run with root
[02:50] <nickrud> LF|Irssi, crontab -e as the user
[02:51] <pangloss> BrickHaus: in your xorg.conf, under the section "Screen", add a SubSection "Display"
[02:51] <thomc> I have this really weird problem: when I click my mouse button once, every so often it registers two clicks instead of one. Any ideas for a solution?
[02:51] <foxwoods> dfsadf: okay, remind me, are you in a terminal right now?
[02:51] <dfsadf> no im not
[02:51] <pangloss> BrickHaus: and a Modes "1024x768"
[02:51] <dfsadf> im at confirmation for reinstall.
[02:51] <LF|Irssi> you save the day again nickrud thanks again :)   can't i Just download your brain to a pdf instead of asking all these lame questions ? :)
[02:51] <foxwoods> ok, don't reinstall, sorry we should try a few more things before that
[02:51] <dfsadf> sure
[02:52] <foxwoods> so reboot and get to the console
[02:52] <dfsadf> ok
[02:52] <nickrud> LF|Irssi, hahah. you want a small pdf I see ;)
[02:52] <pangloss> BrickHaus: like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/68670/
[02:52] <dfsadf> alright
[02:52] <dfsadf> im at one
[02:53] <earthen> anyone here know of any good GPS software for ubuntu for car navigation
[02:53] <foxwoods> dfasdf: type metacity --replace
[02:53] <BrickHaus> pangloss: sweet.. nice doc. Perfect pangloss. Thanks
[02:54] <After_Math> can I get some help with volume control? My volume is full blast but the sound that comes out I can barely hear?!
[02:54] <dfsadf> window manager error: Unable to open X display
[02:54] <foxwoods> ok......try sudo metacity --replace?
[02:54] <dfsadf> same error
[02:55] <dingbat> someone help me with languaage support... i'm trying to install chinese on a friends computer... it should be as easy as system->admin-> lang sup and then selecting chinese... but its not there... how do i get it as an option to be selected?
[02:55] <BrickHaus> pangloss: the xorg.conf is childs play. Coming from gentoo linux so ubuntu is somewhat mysterious in the way that it does everything for you. Heh.. not complaining. It's interesting.
[02:56] <dingbat> please people... its been two painful days of 0 progress
[02:56] <filloy> any idea why flash 10 keeps crashing my firefox?...i know this is a common issue, but i cant seem to find a fix. Is there even one out there?...thank you!
[02:56] <karsten> BrickHaus: xorg is also doing more and more for you.
[02:56] <foxwoods> okay dfsadf: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:56] <nickrud> filloy, if you find one, please tell us all ;(
[02:56] <pangloss> BrickHaus: yes thats the idea about ubuntu; sorry for writing everything out then
[02:56] <karsten> BrickHaus: My current xorg.conf is pretty much just a stub, everything gets autoconfigured by xorg at startup.
[02:56] <foxwoods> use j to move down, k to move up
[02:57] <foxwoods> and try to find stuff about your display
[02:57] <foxwoods> and what it's using
[02:57] <dfsadf> ok
[02:57] <dingbat> anyone? anyone? am i a broken record here...
[02:57] <BrickHaus> pangloss: yup.. thanks. I got that stuff. I'm just trying to figure out why it didn't detect my Intel onboard graphics correct. Obsolutely nothing in my xorg.conf file. To funny
[02:57] <karsten> BrickHaus: check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:57] <filloy> nickrud: :(...are you using a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[02:57] <dfsadf> um
[02:57] <foxwoods> dfsadf: are you looking at the .conf?
[02:57] <Kengine> hi, I want to activate wifi in my Lenovo T500, I used the live CD and can see Atheros 802.11 wireless lan card activated, but how do I connect to wifi ?
[02:57] <dfsadf> i dont seem to be able to move.
[02:57] <nickrud> dingbat, you don't see chinese as an option in language support at all?
[02:57] <dfsadf> im not sure if i am looking at the .conf
[02:57] <Kengine> I am using 8.10 btw
[02:58] <foxwoods> dfsadf: type ":/Screen"
[02:58] <karsten> BrickHaus: ... which should describe what's being detected.  You _can_ also put stuff into xorg.conf to make things explicit, though the whole process is changing rapidly.
[02:58] <foxwoods> without quotes
[02:58] <dfsadf> there are blue tildes on every line and at the bottom it says
[02:58] <BrickHaus> karsten: ahhh. I see that now. Couldn't figure out why everything was missing and still working.. nice. I like that..
[02:58] <n8tuser> Kengine-> sudo dhclient ath0    to associate
[02:58] <K_Dallas> Q: Is it just me or FF3.0.3 crashes from time to time on hard? It is really annoying.
[02:58] <karsten> BrickHaus: Yeah, I discovered that over the summer.
[02:58] <dfsadf> E486: Pattern not found: Screen
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> What's the best option for me to use to create and run virtual machines (not necessarily Linux ones) if I don't have hardware support for virtualization in my processor/chipset?  (eg, for testing new OS versions)  QEMU, Xen, Virtualbox?
[02:58] <BrickHaus> karsten: sweet. Thanks for the tip
[02:58] <karsten> BrickHaus: I'm from Debian, so ubuntu's pretty similar.
[02:58] <dingbat> nickrud: that is correct... the only option is english
[02:58] <karsten> BrickHaus: NP.
[02:58] <foxwoods> oh, is nothing there?
[02:58] <dingbat> there is nothing else in the box
[02:58] <foxwoods> type :q
[02:58] <pangloss> BrickHaus: what karsten said. You can still add some things into xorg.conf if you like though to force it to a certain resolution or w/e
[02:58] <dfsadf> ok
[02:59] <karsten> BrickHaus: You can also do a fair bit of stuff through xrandr, interactively.
[02:59] <foxwoods> then type sudo vim /etc/X then tab till you get X11 or something like that, then tab until you find something that looks like xorg.conf
[02:59] <pangloss> karsten: can you resize your login screen through xrandr?
[02:59] <karsten> BrickHaus: .. scary, actually, how much.  And both KDE/GNOME have pretty good config tools (GUI).
[02:59] <karsten> BrickHaus: setting your display to be mirrored and/or upside down is always fun....
[02:59] <BrickHaus> pangloss: yup.. that's what I'm doing now. Thanks goodness I can spec out my rez
[02:59] <dingbat> nickrud: any ideas?
[03:00] <nickrud> dingbat, doing some research on dependencies
[03:00] <dfsadf> um, its just a bunch of blue tildes and it says --INSERT-- at the bottom
[03:00] <karsten> pangloss: Probably.  I'd have to think out how I'd want to do that.  You can point to any display by setting $DISPLAY.  Probably some script.
[03:00] <BrickHaus> karsten: is xrandr a pkg?
[03:00] <karsten> BrickHaus: application and utility, one sec...
[03:00] <BrickHaus> karsten: don't think i've heard of that before
[03:00] <Kengine> n8tuser, yes I did that. sudo dhclient eth0, it found some return from 255.255.255.255 but now says no DHCPOFFERS received
[03:00] <dingbat> nickrud: k... i'm completely at a loss so... anything should be a good idea
[03:00] <thiebaude> !xrandr
[03:00] <foxwoods> dfsadf.....okay, type :q
[03:00] <karsten> BrickHaus: ... x11-server-utils
[03:00] <foxwoods> now type cd /etc/X11
[03:00] <foxwoods> then type ls and tell me what you see
[03:01] <BrickHaus> I luv you ubottu.. heh
[03:01] <karsten> BrickHaus: ... is the package.  Should be installed by default.
[03:01] <karsten> BrickHaus: botlove.
[03:01] <karsten> !botlove
[03:01] <karsten> Poor bot....
[03:01] <dfsadf> um, its not getting me out of the blue tildes thing
[03:01] <karsten> dfsadf: Are you in an editor right now?
[03:01] <pangloss> haha yes you to ubottu...
[03:01] <thiebaude> i use xrandr in fluxbox to set my screen resolution
[03:01] <bobbiem> how do i install java for ubuntu 6.06?
[03:01] <Kengine> n8tuser, do I need to add a Wireless card in Network Connections ?
[03:01] <karsten> !java > bobbiem
[03:02] <pangloss> !java | bobbiem
[03:02] <dfsadf> hold on ill go restart the root
[03:02]  * filloy remembers when he was talking to ubottu and didnt know it was a machine...
[03:02] <foxwoods> oh, right dfsadf type escape, then :q
[03:02] <thiebaude> haha
[03:02] <BrickHaus> rofl
[03:02] <nickrud> dingbat, try  sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-language-selector-common gnome-language-selector
[03:02] <filloy> yep, pretty lame :p
[03:02] <BrickHaus> givmee sum botluv
[03:02] <nickrud> !helpersnack | karsten
[03:03] <pangloss> hahaha
[03:03] <BrickHaus> lol.. nice
[03:03] <roshan> i accidentally removed my network manager from the taskbar, and also whenever i open up pidgin and amarok the windows no longer show up there. can someone help please?
[03:03] <dingbat> nickrud: "E: Couldn't find package gnome-language-selector-common "
[03:03] <silvex> hi all, trying to encode vinyl, is it better to gnormalize or audacity-amplify low volume?
[03:03] <karsten> dfsadf: OK, you're in vim (or vi), editing xorg.conf.  blue tilde is just vim's way of showing you're looking at a screen past the end of the file (they're null lines).  '
[03:03] <nickrud> dingbat, sorry, that should have been language-selector-common gnome-language-selector
[03:03] <pteague> i'm not sure this is a good thing - http://pastebin.com/d2f306b3f :(
[03:04] <roshan> is there someway to revert to panel settings?
[03:04] <dfsadf> ohh
[03:04] <dfsadf> well i am back at root now
[03:04] <karsten> dfsadf: <esc>1G will take you to the top of the file.  At shell, run "vimtutor" for a quick start guide to vim.
[03:04] <nickrud> karsten, gotta grab the chance while I can: thanks for all the years of help ;)
[03:04] <Kengine> My networkManger Icon I can see, but it doesnt have any signals
[03:04] <karsten> nickrud: NP.
[03:04] <foxwoods> right, how did you get to this console?
[03:04] <dfsadf> i had to restart.
[03:04] <pangloss> roshan: no applets will come up in your system tray?
[03:04] <thiebaude> roshan:you can right click on taskbar and add items to it
[03:04] <dingbat> nickrud: still cant find language selector
[03:04] <dingbat> nickrud: "E: Couldn't find package gnome-language-selector "
[03:05] <foxwoods> and where did you go from there, did you use the recovery console?
[03:05] <dfsadf> yes
[03:05] <karsten> nickrud: So you've run across me before?
[03:05] <foxwoods> hrm....okay
[03:05] <foxwoods> type exit
[03:05] <dfsadf> ok
[03:05] <pangloss> roshan: if you want to reset your gnome settings (like panel icons) try renaming your ~/.gnome to ~/.gnome_old and restatr x
[03:05] <roshan> pangloss & thiebaude: no no applets come up in system tray. its weird
[03:05] <musikgoat> dingbat: sudo apt-get update
[03:05] <foxwoods> where are you now?
[03:05] <dfsadf> recovery menu
[03:05] <foxwoods> okay, choose resume
[03:05] <roshan> pangloss, so would that remove everything like themes etc?
[03:05] <pangloss> roshan: yes
[03:05] <Kengine> anyone activated wifi from 8.10 in Lenovo T500 ?
[03:06] <dingbat> musikgoat: good call thanks... doing it
[03:06] <dfsadf> aww
[03:06] <dfsadf> white screen
[03:06] <nickrud> dingbat, I gotta correct myself again:    sudo apt-get install --reinstall language-selector language-selector-common   . Got messed up with the actuall admin command, gnome-language-selector
[03:06] <foxwoods> and you get the white screen, so press CTRL-ALT-F1
[03:06] <roshan> pangloss: ok i will try that
[03:06] <coppro> which is better for communicating with a VM? A samba share or using a raw image and mounting it (or even a partition; or will that destroy my disk?)
[03:06] <foxwoods> now try typing sudo metacity --replace again
[03:06] <pangloss> roshan: if it doesnt work out, just delete the new .gnome and rename gnome_old to .gnome
[03:06] <pangloss> roshan: make sense?
[03:06] <roshan> so after i rename .gnome to.gnome_old i just log out and log back in correct?
[03:06] <roshan> ok
[03:06] <nickrud> karsten, I read your stuff on the net years ago, and learned much. You arguably bootstrapped me over the learning hurdle
[03:07] <dfsadf> ok
[03:07] <pangloss> roshan: when you do that press ctrl + alt + backspace to restart x
[03:07] <dingbat> nickrud: "Reinstallation of language-selector is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. Reinstallation of language-selector-common is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. " - should i give up?
[03:07] <roshan> ok thank you
[03:07] <karsten> nickrud: Glad to assist ;-)
[03:07] <foxwoods> what was its output?
[03:07] <nickrud> dingbat, no, that's the problem. What version of ubuntu are you running
[03:07] <dfsadf> no output.
[03:07] <foxwoods> ok, type startx
[03:07] <dingbat> 8.04
[03:08] <dfsadf> nothing.
[03:08] <dingbat> i'm running update... maybe that will help?
[03:08] <foxwoods> hrm.....type CTRL-ALT-F7
[03:08] <a_canadian_girl> If I have a box configured with a static IP to a router, for traffic routing purposes, is there any kind of event triggered, specifically a script executed when the REAL IP (not the IP assigned by the router) is changed if you have a few dynamic IPs?
[03:08] <foxwoods> what did that bring you to?
[03:08] <dfsadf> back to the white screen
[03:08] <foxwoods> so go back
[03:08] <foxwoods> CTRL-ALT-F1
[03:08] <dfsadf> ok
[03:08] <korogiannos> Hi.  I'd like to make a script a little something like this...   if /SomeDirectory is empty, do "this", then do "that" otherwise just do "that"..... if that makes any sense...
[03:08] <foxwoods> then do sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <nickrud> dingbat, ok, then probably you have issues with your sources.  put a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: I'm not clear on what you're asking.  "Real IP" == a dynamically assigned IP from your ISP?
[03:09] <dfsadf> no response
[03:09] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, yes
[03:09] <foxwoods> no response from what, CTRL-ALT-F1?
[03:09] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: ... or a change to the internal system's IP.
[03:09] <foxwoods> Try F2 or F3
[03:09] <dfsadf> from the typed words
[03:09] <bullgard4> After_Math: Look at ALSA mixer's settings.
[03:09] <pangloss> korogiannos: its easy of you know perl, bash, or python
[03:10] <foxwoods> ok.....type cd /etc/X11
[03:10] <foxwoods> then type ls
[03:10] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, LAN IP will be static, the dynamic IP assigned by ISP will change
[03:10] <dingbat> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68678/
[03:10] <foxwoods> and tell me if xorg.conf is there
[03:10] <puff> I'm trying to sort out a wonky dns entry... everything seems to be right, but the results from dig/host aren't right.
[03:10] <dfsadf> brings me to login
[03:10] <Dominik> is there a server ubuntu thread?
[03:10] <korogiannos> ﻿pangloss:if you know none of them?
[03:10] <foxwoods> well login
[03:10] <dfsadf> with ctrl alt f2
[03:10] <coppro> no one has ever used a VM?
[03:10] <foxwoods> then do the cd command
[03:10] <dfsadf> um, i dont know the u/p.
[03:10] <foxwoods> its the one you installed with
[03:10] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: OK.  No, that shoudln't matter.  The router is acting as a NAT, assuming you have an internal private network (addresses of 192.168.*.*, 10.*.*.*, or 172.16.*.* (I think, never recall the class B).
[03:10] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: Next question is:  why do you ask?
[03:11] <pangloss> korogiannos: google some documentation and grab a case of jolt cola =)
[03:11] <nickrud> dingbat, those look ok. I'm looking some stuff up
[03:11] <jtisme> korogiannos, you have to at least learn bash
[03:11] <dfsadf> i havent done a reinstall on this particular laptop
[03:11] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, need to send an http request to zoneedit when the dynamic IP changes
[03:11] <musikgoat> Dominik: no on the server channel from my knowledge, its all supported here
[03:11] <dingbat> nickrud: thanks for the help.... when i'm done running update i'll see if that makes a difference...
[03:11] <Dominik> musikgoat: thanks
[03:11] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: From your *INTERNAL* box's perspective, it's just throwing packets to a gateway.  That gateway will NAT the traffic.
[03:11] <dfsadf> i've done reinstalls on the past replacement and the original of this same model
[03:11] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: You're port-forwarding :80 inside?
[03:11] <Dominik> well then, does it improve performance to have a thin client with more then 64 megs of memory?
[03:11] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: ... or you're using a dyndns type service?
[03:12] <Dominik> does it make sense for a thin client to have dedicated graphics
[03:12] <shane2peru> ok, can anyone tell me where to find a distro that is even more up on newer hardware?
[03:12] <shane2peru> Fedora?
[03:12] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: Easiest solution there is to use one of the Linux-based router packages.
[03:12] <shane2peru> or OpenSuse?
[03:12] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, zoneedit DDNS service forwards to my dynamic IP and from there the router forwards port 22, 80, etc to the box in question
[03:12] <Dominik> in other words can a thin client take advantage of local resources past the point of just rendering what the server sends it?
[03:12] <puff> whois foo.com reports the correct nameserver, dig ns1.thenameserver.com reports the correct IP address, ns1.thenameserver.com is up, I can ssh into it. The name server and host is using ispconfig for management; ispconfig shows the entry for foo.com, there's an ispconfig-created entry file for foo.com in /etc/bind. But dig foo.com and host foo.com show no listing.
[03:12] <dingbat> shane2peru: when it doubt go damnsmall haha
[03:12] <roshan> pangloss: i tried it but it didnt work. it did nothing.  i rename the .gnome2 and .gnome2_private both with _old and it did nothing.
[03:12] <shane2peru> dingbat: you can't be serious.
[03:12] <temppy> shane2peru: just curious, whats not working?
[03:12] <dingbat> shane2peru: you're right... i'm not
[03:13] <roshan> pangloss: it is the .gnome in teh home folder that you're talking about right?
[03:13] <korogiannos> ﻿pangloss: I love to learn new things, QuickBasic is as far as my knowledge stretches, and some .bat files.  Where should I look?  Bash for starters, then? Perl or Python?
[03:13] <shane2peru> temppy: you name it, I have never had such a tough time with Ubuntu (user since Breezy days)
[03:13] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: Right.  One sec.
[03:13] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: What's the router?
[03:13] <shane2peru> temppy: mostly sound card is not right at all.
[03:13] <nickrud> dingbat, those two packages, language-selector and language-selector-common are in hardy, so your update should work
[03:13] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: Vendor/model?
[03:13] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, Linksys WRT4G .3
[03:13] <dfsadf> hello?
[03:13] <foxwoods> sorry did you do that cd /etc/X11
[03:13] <foxwoods> ?
[03:14] <shane2peru> temppy: I upgraded to Alsa x.18 and still no good
[03:14] <dfsadf> no, i was never able to
[03:14] <dingbat> nickrud: okay... i'll see what i can do
[03:14] <jeidson> quit
[03:14] <dingbat> update at 85%
[03:14] <der|kunstler> when I seek in rhythmbox it hangs... any ideas ?
[03:14] <dfsadf> should i get to the root through recovery mode and try it?
[03:14] <musikgoat> Dominik: i lied, i'm sorry,  #ubuntu-server could help with your question
[03:14] <temppy> shane2peru: yeah, I hate it when hardware gets unsupported
[03:14] <shane2peru> temppy: dumped alsa, and went with oss4.1 a little better, but not much
[03:14] <Dominik> musikgoat: thanks
[03:14] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/index.php
[03:14] <musikgoat> Dominik: i assumed it wouldn't be something as intricate
[03:14] <Rolaulten> Ello all...I got a...well my reaction was WTF...anyway I'm trying to save a friends computer...as of right now its running the live cd for 8.10 to make a big old file transfer to my sever so he can save some data...Now he opted to install ubuntu on his system...got to the partitioner and it is not showing anything...the strange thing is I am moveing 15 gigs or so off that computer at the same time as this so there is a hard drive somewh
[03:14] <Rolaulten> ere...
[03:15] <shane2peru> temppy: yeah, I have always had good luck with Ubuntu, but this new computer is a reallll pain
[03:15] <musikgoat> :-P
[03:15] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, if you're going to recommend dd.wrt or such, last time I tried the flashing failed half-way through, and it overwrote the factory restore 'partition' (if you will), and I actually had to break open the router and short the flash chip pins to factory safe-mode
[03:15] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: You can flash the Linksys with a Linux-based router image that among other things has a dyndns module.  Handles the update for you.
[03:15] <nickrud> dingbat, if it fails again, let me know. We'll try some lower level commands to see what's going on
[03:15] <pangloss> roshan: try $mv  ~/.gconf/apps/panel ~/.gconf/apps/panel_old
[03:15] <foxwoods> no, where are you right now?
[03:15] <shane2peru> I need some really bleeding edge distro.
[03:15] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: Well, yeah, that's what I'm recommending ;-)
[03:15] <dingbat> nickrud: will do
[03:15] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: I've had really good luck with it.
[03:15] <a_canadian_girl> don't want to go through that again :)
[03:15] <Dominik> musikgoat: lol that room is empty :(
[03:16] <dfsadf> nowhere atm
[03:16] <puff> Dominik: Thin client's a marketing term, a fresh spin on client/server, so whatever makes sense to whomever's selling/buying is what makes sense.  The general sense is much like a web browser; unlike an old-fashioend client/server, the client can do a lot, so the server isn't required to scale as much as you add clients. Generally speaking the connotation is that the thin client approach avoids excessive maintenance of the clien
[03:16] <puff> t machines, generally because the client machine hosts only sufficient smarts to make the connection and interpret the results.
[03:16] <pangloss> korogiannos: any of them will work, perl is very hard to read for beginners, python is pretty good, and bash you will use the most
[03:16] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: what dynamic DNS service are you using?
[03:16] <roshan> pangloss: i saw this thread: do you think i should try it first? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408925
[03:16] <pangloss> roshan: after that restart x again
[03:16] <puff> Dominik: Of course, "fresh spin" in this topic means "dating from 1997" :-).
[03:17] <Frijolie> pangloss: when using a VM, after using the .iso file, do you actually install it or just run it via liveCD? What's best?
[03:17] <shane2peru> ok, does anyone know what the deal is with ffmpeg now?  Apparently they updated it, and the old fix doesn't fix it now.
[03:17] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: There are some dyndns packages for Ubuntu.  I'm not sure how suited they are to your situation.
[03:17] <Dominik> puff: the way I understand the client / server relationship is that a client does nothing more then render what the server does and tell the server what to do, in that sense it would not make sense to have more then the minimal amount of resources to accomplish just that
[03:17] <pangloss> Frijolie: install to the VM
[03:17] <shane2peru> temppy: does ffmpeg depend on my soundboard to be setup correctly?
[03:17] <benzap> I wondering if anyone knows how to setup a grub boot script to load everything but the gnome desktop, or is that prtty much equivalnet to recovery mode?
[03:17] <Frijolie> pangloss: alright...
[03:17] <korogiannos> ﻿pangloss: Thankyou, yet again.  I'm off to see my good friend google.  Keep up the great work helping us wanabe "power" users
[03:18] <squarebracket> is there a seperate trash for root? i just deleted 12.1 gigs under a sudo'd nautilus and it didn't free up 12.1 gigs
[03:18] <pangloss> roshan: this should work: $mv  ~/.gconf/apps/panel ~/.gconf/apps/panel_old
[03:18] <karsten> squarebracket: No.
[03:18] <puff> korogiannos: It depends a lot on what you're going to be doing.  If you're going to be spending most of your time dealing with system admin type problems with systems others have set up, you'll be dealing with shell scripting a lot.
[03:18] <pangloss> roshan: but you can try the other thing as well =)
[03:18] <karsten> squarebracket: erm.  O dear.  Don't do that.
[03:18] <pangloss> korogiannos: good luck!!
[03:18] <foxwoods> okay, start normally, get to the white screen, then press CTRL-ALT-F1
[03:18] <xorlim> how am I going to make Fallout 1 run on WINE?
[03:18] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, indeed, but you can see my last message for why I'm not willing to try flashing it again, however the request to the ddns provider is quite simple, I just need some kind of script to be executed when and if the external IP changes, but I'm not sure if/where that's possible
[03:18] <a_canadian_girl> karsten, zoneedit
[03:18] <der|kunstler> when I seek in rhythmbox it hangs... any ideas ?
[03:18] <dfsadf> ok
[03:18] <roshan> pangloss: thank you very much what you told me worked!!!
[03:18] <karsten> squarebracket: drop to a terminal.  'df -h' should show free space / utilization by partition.
[03:19] <pangloss> roshan: =)
[03:19] <coppro> xorlim: check appdb.winehq.org
[03:19] <shane2peru> is Debian better for very new hardware?
[03:19] <der|kunstler> seek doesn't work in totem / rhythmbox
[03:19] <dingbat> nickrud: looks like it worked
[03:19] <dingbat> thanks for the help
[03:19] <puff> Dominik: Y'know, I remember in 1997, when "thin client" was making a big splash, walking through an old big-iron data center (at a bank) and seeing a poster on the wall, "why is client/server like teenage sex", with lots of funny parallels, ending with "everybody's talking about it, nobody's doing it."
[03:19] <nickrud> dingbat, yw
[03:19] <Randall1> wondering if anyone here knows how to allow guest sessions to type in chinese. I have it enabled on my session but the SCIM thing doesn't show up on guest sessions
[03:19] <dfsadf> im there
[03:19] <musikgoat> a_canadian_girl: thats the fun part
[03:19] <musikgoat> a_canadian_girl: tomato is supposed to be just as good in some respences
[03:19] <musikgoat> *respects
[03:19] <temppy> a_canadian_girl: zoneedit gives you the script
[03:19] <musikgoat> Dominik: sorry :-(
[03:19] <temppy> a_canadian_girl: I use zone edit, I can dig up my script if you like...
[03:19] <FloodBot2> musikgoat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:20] <der|kunstler> seek doesn't work in totem / rhythmbox
[03:20] <foxwoods> ok now type cd /etc/X11
[03:20] <temppy> shane2peru: no idea
[03:20] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: I'd be surprised if there isn't a solution out there.  I can think of a few ways to maybe do this.  Your router doesn't support this directly?  Can you get a status screen from this?
[03:20] <dfsadf> \um.
[03:20] <shane2peru> anyone use dvd-slideshow?
[03:20] <dfsadf> there is still no response.
[03:20] <puff> Dominik: Client/server is just a definition of a relationship.  Strictly speaking,  nothing prevents program Foo from being a client to program Bar but Foo can also be a server to program Bat.
[03:20] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: Worst to worst:  you could screen-scrape every few seconds, update if the external IF value changes.
[03:20] <foxwoods> what do you mean no response? what does it say exactly? Do you have a console?
[03:21] <squarebracket> karsten: i just did bad things, didn't i...
[03:21] <temppy> shane2peru: I would hope that with the pulseaudio, things would get better with sound
[03:21] <der|kunstler> seek doesn't work in totem / rhythmbox
[03:21] <karsten> squarebracket: Running GUI file management tools as root is ... frowned on.
[03:21] <squarebracket> karsten, same thing. i guess being too lazy to rm -r the folders screwed me over?
[03:21] <dfsadf> its not really a console. i can type things but there is no printout.
[03:21] <Randall1>  wondering if anyone here knows how to allow guest sessions to type in chinese. I have it enabled on my session but the SCIM thing doesn't show up on guest sessions
[03:21] <PeskyJ> In ubuntu, is there a way to make the terminal remember what size I had it at each time I open it?
[03:21] <dfsadf> its just like a black screen i can type on.
[03:21] <foxwoods> ok, press CTRl-ALT-F2
[03:22] <dfsadf> uh, this is the login screen that i dont know the username/password to
[03:22] <karsten> squarebracket: 'df' and 'du' can trace down where the space is.  If you deleted files which are open by other tools, then they may still exist.  Or nautilus may have tried to help you by saving stuff in trash.  Yeah, you probably want to find out  where root's trash is.
[03:22] <shane2peru> temppy: well let me try a fresh install, I was working on intrepid-RC and all was great, then after intrepid was released and the updated the kernel, everything broke.
[03:22] <foxwoods> it's the same as your regular username password
[03:22] <karsten> squarebracket: I don't use nautilus period so I don't know off the top of my head.
[03:22] <dfsadf> i dont have one.
[03:22] <temppy> shane2peru: I think hardware support is based on the kernel version.  So, if debian has a new kernel, maybe give it a try
[03:22] <KillerOrca> anyone have a link to a complete guide for migrating an install from a smaller HD to a bigger one?
[03:22] <temppy> !clone | KillerOrca
[03:22] <Frijolie> pangloss: VirtualBox isn't "capturing" my mouse movements...
[03:22] <puff> Dominik: The idea dates way, way, back, and it's just the idea of computers collaborating.  It started when desktop machines were hardwired terminals (teleray t10s, wyse 54s, IBM's 3270, etc).  Then the machine on the desktop starting getting a lot of power and they started shoving more work into it.
[03:22] <foxwoods> yes you do when you installed you should have set one
[03:22] <Frijolie> karsten: hola!
[03:22] <dfsadf> i didnt install this though, this is factory ubuntu
[03:22] <der|kunstler> seek doesn't work in totem / rhythmbox
[03:22] <foxwoods> oh
[03:23] <karsten> Frijolie: Hey
[03:23] <foxwoods> what did your manufacturer say your password was then?
[03:23] <foxwoods> they should have sent you something if they installed it
[03:23] <tanjir> hello
[03:23] <pangloss> Frijolie: did you install virtualbox guest extras?
[03:23] <a_canadian_girl> I have the script written for https that's not the problem I was just curious if there was some script that gets executed by the ethernet service when it becomes aware of an external IP change
[03:23] <a_canadian_girl> or I should just use a crontab
[03:23] <a_canadian_girl> for example
[03:23] <der|kunstler> seek doesn't work in totem / rhythmbox
[03:23] <foxwoods> and if it's white screened when you booted up then its their fault
[03:23] <foxwoods> and I have no clue where to go from there
[03:23] <dfsadf> darn.
[03:23] <foxwoods> like when you booted up for the first time I mean
[03:23] <der|kunstler> seek doesn't work in totem / rhythmbox
[03:23] <Dominik> puff: so the more powerful the client, the less work the server does? I still don't understand
[03:23] <puff> Dominik: Trouble was, this meant the work became decentralized, but also meant the maintenance tasks became decentralized, so there was a lot more work, even though these machines were technically clients.
[03:23] <dfsadf> well this is the second replacement laptop i've received from them.
[03:24] <foxwoods> ok, then get to the root console from before
[03:24] <dfsadf> yes its from first startup its been doing this.
[03:24] <karsten> a_canadian_girl: I just don't know of a reliable way to detecgt that change
[03:24] <foxwoods> which manufacturer dfsadf
[03:24] <PeskyJ> I want the terminal window to remember that I like it at 128x40 but it always starts at the default size instead
[03:24] <dfsadf> dell
[03:24] <morningwalker> i am unable to update to 8.10 through the update manager
[03:24] <dfsadf> its a studio 15
[03:24] <pangloss> Frijolie: go to the "machine" menu in the tool bar, there is an option to dl and install guest extras
[03:24] <puff> Dominik: So then the web came along and it was the first really successful (widely-adopted) approach at putting more than screen painting on the client.
[03:24] <squarebracket> karsten, duly noted. what do you use? =]
[03:24] <nickrud> PeskyJ, you can edit the launcher, add  --geometry=128x40 to the command line
[03:24] <morningwalker> upgrade!
[03:24] <Frijolie> pangloss: unable to download "connection timed out" does the VM use your Host Internet connection?
[03:24] <ubunto-n00b> So, I am a Ubuntu NOOB, but have used linux quite a bit many years ago.  Problem is:  I just installed and my wireless doesn't show up...  I have an Intel 4965 card which should be supported in the kernel in the kernel version I have (updated to newest tonight after install) ...  also the "Hardware Testing" application detects the wifi card, but it doesn't show up in "Network Connections" at all... any help would be much appre
[03:24] <ubunto-n00b> ciated
[03:25] <PeskyJ> nickrud: aha, thanks :)
[03:25] <pangloss> PeskyJ: try something like gnome-terminal --geometry 120x50
[03:25] <metalfan_> hi
[03:25] <morningwalker> !upgrade
[03:25] <foxwoods> strange, I've never had problems with dell
[03:25] <dfsadf> ok im at the root console.
[03:25] <metalfan_> whats the default ubuntu cursor theme, i need it for my archlinux :)
[03:25] <benzap> anyone here ever set thier own boot paramaters for ubuntu in grub? I want to boot to the terminal instead of the gui
[03:25] <pangloss> Frijolie: yes but you have to tell it to use your host connection
[03:25] <sysdoc> ok I alien'd the vmware rpm package and can't install even after chroot to my user... What gives?
[03:25] <foxwoods> ok, type cd /etc/X11
[03:26] <KillerOrca> well would that keep any custom changes I made to applications?
[03:26] <dfsadf> ok
[03:26] <foxwoods> now type ls
[03:26] <foxwoods> do you see xorg.conf?
[03:26] <dfsadf> yes
[03:26] <Randall1> wondering if anyone here knows how to allow guest sessions to type in chinese. I have it enabled on my session but the SCIM thing doesn't show up on guest sessions
[03:26] <foxwoods> say vim xorg.conf
[03:26] <FrozenFire> Hi all, I've just installed Kubuntu Intrepid a few days ago. I've kept completely up-to-date with updates. For some reason, FireFox, Adept, and Ubuntu itself keeps crashing.
[03:26] <sysdoc> !vmware
[03:26] <puff> Dominik: To backtrack a sec, prior to HTML, etc, 99% of stuff was either a complex app running on the desktop machine, or essentially just a glorified terminal emulation where the server sent commands over the wire to draw stuff on the desktop machien's screen.  The web was the first really successful approach where the server said "do some stuff" and the stuff struck the right balance between simply installing the app on the de
[03:26] <puff> sktop machine and micro-managing the desktop machine.
[03:26] <foxwoods> and tell me what you see regarding screen/monitor, etc
[03:26] <Frijolie> pangloss: sorry, how do you do that?
[03:26] <dfsadf> ok
[03:26] <puff> Dominik: hard to believe it, but that's how it was.
[03:27] <dfsadf> some text
[03:27] <Frijolie> karsten: i'm taking your advice and trying different distros inside of VMs
[03:27] <karsten> squarebracket: bash ;-)
[03:27] <foxwoods> yes, I need to know specifically what it says
[03:27] <karsten> Frijolie: Cool.  I need to do that ;-)
[03:27] <puff> Dominik: So, after the web really took off, folks coined the phrase "thin client" to describe this striking-the-right-balance.
[03:27] <ardchoille> is there a known issue with gedit taking a long time to launch?
[03:27] <Dominik> puff: wow, i am so lost
[03:27] <karsten> squarebracket: If I want some sort of interactive tool for file management, 'mc', based on an old Norton utility.
[03:27] <squarebracket> karsten, lol. my command-fu isn't good enough to do things like matching pattern deletes =)
[03:27] <dfsadf> um section "inputdevice"
[03:27] <puff> Dominik: Well, this maybe isn't really an #ubuntu discussion.
[03:28] <dfsadf> indentifier "generic keyboard"
[03:28] <puff> Dominik: maybe over in #web?
[03:28] <dfsadf> driver "kbd"
[03:28] <angah> hi..how to make password from my AP permanently store in my laptop? Each time i login, i have to configure again..
[03:28] <metalfan_> come on, please tell me how the default ubuntu gnome cursor theme is called
[03:28] <sb118__> Hello.  I have ubuntu intrepid.  I'm having a problem with accidental touchpad clicks when im typing, it just jumps up a couple of lines if i accidently hit it with my palm.  I read somewhere that i can change something in the input device section of xorg.conf file.  But i don't have that section in mine.  any idea?
[03:28] <dfsadf> option "xkbrules" "xorg"
[03:28] <Dominik> puff: did you see my im?
[03:28] <karsten> !bugs | ardchoille
[03:28] <PeskyJ> metalfan_: it's called "Human"
[03:28] <dfsadf> option "xkbmode1" "pc105"
[03:28] <squarebracket> !iwlwifi
[03:28] <dfsadf> option "xkblayout" "us"
[03:28] <Frijolie> karsten: hehe
[03:28] <dfsadf> endsection
[03:28] <K_Dallas> ardchoille, i have found that much of delays i experience with applications are solved when i use ion3 instead of gnome or kde
[03:28] <puff> Dominik: No, I hadn't, I'd prefer discussing it in #web maybe.
[03:28] <dfsadf> "xorg.conf" 59L, 1503C
[03:29] <elpargo> sb118__, if you know what your are doing just add the lines.
[03:29] <foxwoods> okay, move down dfsadf
[03:29] <foxwoods> using j
[03:29] <angah> anyone?
[03:29] <foxwoods> I need to see what it says near a screen section
[03:29] <dfsadf> ok
[03:29] <angah> i'm using hardy
[03:29] <foxwoods> what you were telling me was about keyboards
[03:29] <elpargo> K_Dallas, that's just a perspective thing and a slow computer, apps aren't faster or slower because of the window manager.
[03:29] <toastedmilk> Is there any way to put in a password on a external harddrive with Time Machine(Leopard) to access files on Hardy?
[03:30] <dfsadf> alright which section do you want to know about?
[03:30] <elpargo> toastedmilk, shouldn't you be asking osx people?
[03:30] <PeskyJ> is there a gui program for setting up an encrypted directory?
[03:30] <sb118__> elpargo, i don't really know what im doing. haha. here's the link if you could help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132590
[03:30] <K_Dallas> elpargo, to start or shut down, i think it matters but i might be wrong
[03:31] <toastedmilk> elpargo, I'm trying to find a place to input the password from the ubuntu interface, not the osx interface, so I don't think so
[03:31] <FrozenFire> Hi all, I've just installed Kubuntu Intrepid a few days ago. I've kept completely up-to-date with updates. For some reason, FireFox, Adept, and Ubuntu itself keeps crashing. FireFox crashes constantly, every few minutes. Adept crashes randomly without warning. Ubuntu itself just crashed when Adept was fetching package lists. There are never any crash reports offered. Any suggestions for troubleshooting?
[03:31] <metalfan_> PeskyJ, thx
[03:31] <foxwoods> tell me the sections dfsadf
[03:31] <nickrud> FrozenFire, in general, #kubuntu is better for serious kubuntu problems
[03:32] <dfsadf> generic keyboard, configured mouse, synaptics touchpad, configured video device, configured moniter, default screen, default layout
[03:32] <FrozenFire> nickrud, thanks.
[03:32] <squarebracket> did intel wireless 3945 break partially in the 2.6.26 kernel?
[03:32] <khaled> Is there a way to save the screen session to disk .. like resume it after rebooting?
[03:32] <foxwoods> configured video device
[03:32] <toastedmilk> Is there any way to put in a password on a external harddrive with Time Machine(Leopard) to access files on Hardy?
[03:32] <dfsadf> all it says is
[03:32] <PeskyJ> squarebracket: not sure but ubuntu kept freezing completely on me until I removed my wireless card
[03:32] <Ximal> Is there a way to get apt-on cd to be a dvd instead ?
[03:32] <dfsadf> option "useFBDev" "true"
[03:32] <whome> command-not-found is not reporting recommendations for missing packages.  can anyone help me troubleshoot this?  i am having no luck tracking down anything...
[03:32] <nickrud> khaled, you should have the hibernate option on the shutdown button ....
[03:33] <karsten> squarebracket: find . -name \*pattern\*
[03:33] <squarebracket> karsten, | xargs rm ?
[03:33] <khaled> nickrud, I do have that. I am talking about shell. I use screen so that I don't lose my SSH connections and so forth. But from time to time I had to restart my computer but then I lose my screen session
[03:33] <musikgoat1> whome: what is the command not found?
[03:33] <foxwoods> is there a section "device" with something saying identifier which says intel beside it?
[03:33] <karsten> squarebracket: ... is a good start.  You can slice and dice it a bit from there.  If you're not sure you want to delete that automatically (you could do ... yeah, xargs), you can write to a file.
[03:34] <karsten> squarebracket: ... then edit the file manually, and feed *that* to xargs.
[03:34] <nickrud> khaled, ah, no I don't know, sorry
[03:34] <foxwoods> j to move down, k to move u
[03:34] <karsten> squarebracket: xargs rm <file
[03:34] <foxwoods> up*
[03:34] <hoyas> tem alguem ai que possa me ajudar?
[03:34] <Venin> craaaaaaaaaaaap.. im in deep trouble.. i managed to overwrite a openoffice file with the wrong file.. am i screwed?
[03:34] <karsten> !es | hoyas
[03:34] <squarebracket> ah, that's a good idea. thanks for the tip! :)
[03:34] <karsten> Venin: document or package file?
[03:34] <hoyas> ok, thanks
[03:34] <noksious> hello i run ubuntu 7.10 whats the problem now ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/68682/plain/ ?
[03:34] <dfsadf> nothing about intel
[03:35] <Venin> document
[03:35] <squarebracket> PeskyJ, mine works with my run-of-the-mill WEP at home, but my TTLS/PAP WPA at school doesn't work in 2.6.24
[03:35] <sb118__> elpargo, any ideas or should i try something else?
[03:35] <toastedmilk> Is there any way to access time machine restricted files from an external hard drive on Hardy?
[03:35] <foxwoods> ok, find the part that says driver fbdev
[03:35] <karsten> Venin: If it's a document, unless you've got a backup / prior version, you're hosed.  If it's a package file, you can reinstall the package.
[03:35] <karsten> toastedmilk: ???
[03:35] <dfsadf> ok
[03:35] <khaled> nickrud, yeah .. I don't seem to find it anywhere. I might have to implement that myself
[03:35] <toastedmilk> karsten,
[03:35] <whome> musikgoat command-not-found recommends programs to install when something is missing.  for example, you try to md5 a file, but do not have md5 installed, sleuthkit is then recommended.
[03:35] <Venin> karsten: i have no backup
[03:35] <foxwoods> and tell me what it says there
[03:35] <squarebracket> karsten, bash is so cool. i keep on meaning to learn it better.
[03:35] <karsten> toastedmilk: time machine == Apple's file storage wireless thing?
[03:35] <Venin> karsten: isnt there a way to restore old files like you can restore deleted files?
[03:35] <musikgoat1> whome: i'm asking whats the command you typed
[03:35] <karsten> squarebracket: Use it.  Buy "UNIX Power Tools"
[03:36] <whome> musikgoat md5 <file>
[03:36] <karsten> Venin: May I make a suggestion?
[03:36] <dfsadf> option "UseFBDev
[03:36] <karsten> Venin: ... get used to that warm feeling of being screwed.
[03:36] <dfsadf>  " "true"
[03:36] <noksious> how to fix this error? " http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/68682/plain/ " can some1 help me plz ?
[03:36] <toastedmilk> karsten, my roommate has mac with time machine on his external harddrive.  I want his music files on my pc.  (Time Machine = backup utility for Mac's Leopard)  But it tells me I'm not authorized, and doesn't provide an option to enter a pass
[03:36] <karsten> Venin: If you're using ext3fs, no, you cannot recover deleted files in any reliable way.
[03:36] <foxwoods> that's all? it should have Identifier, then Driver, then BoardName, etc.
[03:36] <mhall119> Vernin, when you over-write a file it's gone.  Undelete works because the file's content isn't overwritten
[03:36] <noecksit> hello, im having some trouble setting up ldap authentication in pam, is there a way for me to debug it?
[03:36] <foxwoods> tell me all those if they're there, or if you see them somewhere else
[03:36] <karsten> toastedmilk: What's the protocol?  smbfs?
[03:37] <Venin> karsten: ext2
[03:37] <karsten> Venin: mc has an undelete.
[03:37] <karsten> Venin: mount -o remount,rw <filesystem> *NOW*
[03:37] <karsten> Venin: ... will prevent any further changes to that filesystem.
[03:37] <dfsadf> section "device". indentifier "configured video device"
[03:37] <musikgoat1> whome: it is the case that this is happening, but i'm not familiar with the database that stores that information
[03:37] <Venin> ive rebooted
[03:37] <squarebracket> karsten, ya? i started reading the guide in #bash's topic... but i've heard unix power tools is good.
[03:37] <CarlFK> karsten: um... rw or ro  ?
[03:37] <noecksit> i am able to do "getent passwd" and it gives me the accurate information
[03:37] <karsten> Venin: Fire up 'mc' (install if necessary).
[03:38] <karsten> Venin: That was pretty stupid.
[03:38] <noecksit> so i think the ldap client itself is working however the pam authentication is not
[03:38] <dfsadf> i dont see boardname anywhere
[03:38] <anonident> I need help
[03:38] <Venin> karsten: i didnt know i had overwrote it..
[03:38] <Venin> so i rebooted to windows to print it out
[03:38] <karsten> Venin: ro (CarlFK: good call).
[03:38] <anonident> ati radeon dual monitor support problem
[03:38] <Venin> karsten: hm?
[03:38] <karsten> Venin: remount read-only, still helps avoid changes.
[03:38] <anonident> xserver corrupted and ubuntu not booting anymore
[03:38] <karsten> Venin: mount -o remount,ro <filesystem>
[03:38] <anonident> crashing to black screen unless I do recovery boot
[03:39] <noecksit> is there a way i can test my ldap configuration further though, because I cannot chown to a file to a user either
[03:39] <mhall119> Venin: you're pretty much hosed unless you have a backup
[03:39] <CarlFK> whats the apt command to flush any undeeded files from var/cache?  I am about to image the drive, and I want to trim the size down
[03:39] <Venin> mhall119: i wouldnt be here if i had a backup
[03:39] <foxwoods> ok can you give me any more precision on the exact graphics card you have? intel what agian?
[03:39] <karsten> Venin: The more changes to the filesystem, the lower your chances of recover.
[03:39] <Ximal> is there a program that will backup my ubuntu install as it is todau ... from the current look of my x and all the shortcuts on the panels to the folders and names etc and placement or at least restore the desktop items ?
[03:39] <karsten> CarlFK: aptitude clean
[03:39] <foxwoods> I'm looking for some number like intel integrated graphics 9xx
[03:39] <dfsadf> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[03:39] <Venin> karsten: and what does mc do?
[03:39] <nickrud> Ximal, you might find sbackup useful.
[03:40] <karsten> Venin: mc is a utility with an ext2 undelete feature.
[03:40] <Ximal> is there a url or website for sbackup ? for me to look at ? nickrud ?
[03:40] <mhall119> Ximal: all of that is stored under your home directory, just back that up and you're good
[03:40] <karsten> Venin: http://www.datarecoverypros.com/recover-linux-midnightcommander.html
[03:40] <toastedmilk> karsten, where do I find the protocol?
[03:40] <foxwoods> try this
[03:41] <nickrud> http://sbackup.wiki.sourceforge.net/ Ximal
[03:41] <Ximal> wait... so I just backup the home directory and then recreatethe username ... boot to live disk ... and then replace one home drive with mine ?
[03:41] <foxwoods> press i to start a new line
[03:41] <karsten> Venin: .. describes the process.  I've never done it myself, so read, try, and don't expect 100% success.
[03:41] <dfsadf> ok
[03:41] <karsten> toastedmilk: What protocol?
[03:41] <toastedmilk> karsten, my roommate has mac with time machine on his external harddrive.  I want his music files on my pc.  (Time Machine = backup utility for Mac's Leopard)  But it tells me I'm not authorized, and doesn't provide an option to enter a pass
[03:41] <karsten> toastedmilk: Oh.  How do you access the time machine?
[03:41] <toastedmilk> karsten, you asked what protocol
[03:41] <musikgoat1> whome, the application command-not-found-data should be storing it, maybe this is a known bug?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bugs
[03:41] <foxwoods> from the section where you said video config
[03:41] <karsten> toastedmilk: Web access?  Is it like a filesystem?  what?
[03:41] <musikgoat1> otherwise, report it
[03:41] <toastedmilk> karsten: firewire to usb to my computer
[03:41] <karsten> toastedmilk: Mounted as a disk?
[03:41] <nickrud> Ximal, pretty much. I do the equiv of that for each ubuntu release
[03:41] <mhall119> Ximal: essentially, yes.  Some system-wide configuration lives in /etc/ but most everything you want is in your home direcotyr
[03:41] <toastedmilk> karsten, no, juts plugged in
[03:42] <anonident> Its kind of working right now
[03:42] <evan_> can anyone help me with getting atheros wirless drivers working
[03:42] <Venin> karsten: so mount -o remount,ro /dev/mmcblk0p1 ?
[03:42] <anonident> what should I do
[03:42] <anonident> mess with xserver and try to get dual monitors working?
[03:42] <toastedmilk> karsten, I'm not exactly accessing time machine
[03:42] <karsten> toastedmilk: what does 'mount' show for the time machine?
[03:42] <anonident> or leave it with mirror working?
[03:42] <toastedmilk> karsten, just scrolling the folders in the hdd
[03:42] <Ximal> that url nickrud is not working or coming up..
[03:42] <mhall119> I have my /home mount from a separate partition
[03:42] <toastedmilk> karsten, it says I do not have the permissions to access the files
[03:42] <Ximal> do you think you could pastebin it for me ?
[03:42] <karsten> Venin: yeah, or umount it entirely if you can.  Read that article I showed you.
[03:42] <foxwoods> then type in from this link where it says Identifier "intel 965" but don't type that
[03:42] <nickrud> Ximal, strange, I took it from my location bar
[03:42] <foxwoods> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=54960
[03:42] <Ximal> at least the initial wiki page ..
[03:42] <Ximal> nm
[03:42] <foxwoods> so type Driver "intel" VendorName "Intel Corp", etc
[03:42] <Ximal> it's going now
[03:42] <dfsadf> ok
[03:43] <nickrud> Ximal, it's in the repos by the way
[03:43] <Ximal> i've got torrent flux in the background going... so it might be using up my network resources
[03:43] <karsten> toastedmilk: what does 'mount' show you for the time-machine mount?  Run:  'mount; cat /proc/mounts' and pastebin the output.
[03:43] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, your probably not a user of the group "disk" i imagine
[03:43] <foxwoods> and then delete the Option that used to be in there (the FBdev one
[03:43] <foxwoods> wait
[03:43] <foxwoods> before you do this
[03:43] <foxwoods> type Escape :q!
[03:43] <nickrud> Ximal, it's a good idea to run backups regularly, this is the tool I use cuz I'm lazy
[03:43] <dfsadf> ok
[03:43] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, when it mounted it didn't mount to a directory you have permissions to
[03:43] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, right, but where do I receive those permissions
[03:43] <foxwoods> now type cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[03:43] <PeskyJ> Is there a way to make a smb://host/share style shortcut on th edesktop, so it only mounts and opens when I click it?
[03:43] <karsten> Venin: That *only* works on ext2, not ext3, BTW.
[03:43] <foxwoods> (you should have been back in the terminal after escape :q!
[03:44] <dfsadf> um
[03:44] <evan_> anyone know a good way to install atheros wireless drivers?
[03:44] <Ximal> well... once i convert all the dvd's i've backedup onto my hard-drive to lower sized higher compressed avi's ... yes.. that i own... I will then do that..
[03:44] <benbloom> k quick partition question: if I want to format my second SATA drive to just be a storage point. should I create an extended partition with an ext3 filesystem on it? how do I make it mount automatically? I'm using gparted (unless someone has a better solution)
[03:44] <anonident> whats going on with root in ubuntu?
[03:44] <sb118__> my xorg.conf file doesn't have my input devices.  I need to add "SHMConfig" to it to disable the touchpad while im typing.  How can i do this?
[03:44] <toastedmilk> karsten, what pastebin url does this channel use?
[03:44] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, for a quick way i would type in a terminal sudo cp /copyfrom /tohere
[03:44] <anonident> my main user is root? and theres also a root?
[03:44] <Ximal> cause i have a 500 gig and a 1.2 terrabyte drive.. the 1.2 tbd is the one i use for my live operating system
[03:44] <karsten> toastedmilk: I don't care. Just post the url when you're done
[03:44] <dfsadf> after i typed :q  some red text said E37: No write since last change (add ! to override)
[03:44] <karsten> toastedmilk: http://channels.debian.net/paste works for me.
[03:44] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, you'll have to chmod +x /tohere
[03:44] <anonident> is it all just a sudo masquerate every time I access anything
[03:45] <karsten> dfsadf: :wq
[03:45] <karsten> dfsadf: or :q! to quit w/o writing.
[03:45] <Ximal> hey nickrud ... thanks for the info.. i'm gonna lay down a while...
[03:45] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, because after you copy, the files inside will still have those same perms
[03:45] <dfsadf> ok
[03:45] <foxwoods> that's why you're supposed to type q!
[03:45] <nickrud> Ximal, see you about
[03:45] <karsten> dfsadf: or ZZ to write quit
[03:45] <foxwoods> sorry, :q!
[03:45] <shane2peru> evan_: what chipset?
[03:45] <Ximal> i hope so , friend... peace be withu
[03:45] <foxwoods> it's ok karsten, I'm on this
[03:45] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, chmod +x will give your user ownership
[03:45] <karsten> foxwoods: OK.
[03:45] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, will that affect any of the files on the external hdd?
[03:45] <foxwoods> karsten:you can have him if I can't figure it out :P
[03:45] <Venin> karsten: will it work on fat32?
[03:45] <karsten> foxwoods: Naw, I've got to go soon any how.
[03:45] <foxwoods> karsten: white screen with his video card
[03:45] <foxwoods> :P
[03:46] <evan_> AR242x
[03:46] <karsten> Venin: Not that I'm aware of.
[03:46] <karsten> foxwoods: Ouch.
[03:46] <toastedmilk> karsten, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/90442/
[03:46] <foxwoods> yup
[03:46] <dfsadf> >_>
[03:46] <shane2peru> evan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948434&page=2  post number 28 should fix you up
[03:46] <dfsadf> ok so im at root so now what?
[03:46] <dfsadf> in /etc/x11
[03:46] <foxwoods> ok, do the cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[03:46] <karsten> Venin: google linux undelete vfat for possible solutions.
[03:46] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, no becuase you are only changing the permission of the dir/files that you copied over, you shouldn't have to mess with the perms for the dir/files on the actual drive, since your making a copy to your home dir, or wherever
[03:46] <foxwoods> so you now have a backup if anything were to really go wrong
[03:47] <foxwoods> not that it's great right now
[03:47] <anonident> thanks for your help everyone
[03:47] <dfsadf> ok
[03:47] <dfsadf> and now?
[03:47] <Venin> karsten: in windows there are tools to retrieve deleted stuff.. but i dont understand how it can work on overwritten stuff
[03:47] <foxwoods> ok, now do the vim again
[03:47] <karsten> foxwoods: Best I can tell:  that's mounted directly as hfsplus.  You should be able to access anything as root.
[03:47] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, what if the /copyto location has 'folder/ /folder/ /' type of a dialoge?
[03:47] <dfsadf> ah, how do i get back there?
[03:47] <foxwoods> vim xorg.conf
[03:47] <karsten> foxwoods: ... assuming no gimfoolery on the part of Apple, which I won't guarantee.
[03:47] <rodcl_22> Hey i got a new kernell update that has this warning : "You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed" should i install anyway? please answer
[03:47] <foxwoods> karsten: what's mounted as hfsplus?
[03:47] <sysdoc> anyone install vmware from rpm off wmware's site?
[03:48] <toastedmilk> dialog*
[03:48] <sysdoc> Come on SDR!
[03:48] <PeskyJ> perhaps a better question would be: what's a good way to manage commonly accessed samba shares so that I can get to them quickly?
[03:48] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, sudo cp /copyto/foo/bar /home/toastedmilk/whatever you want
[03:48] <anonident> anyone familiar with aticonfig?
[03:48] <dfsadf> ok
[03:48] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, do you understand? im not that great of an explainer haha
[03:48] <anonident> I'm trying to set up an asus ati radeon 3450 with dual monitor support
[03:48] <anonident> running into a bunch of problems
[03:48] <karsten> Venin: on any filesystem, "delete" just removes the directory entry for the data.  The unallocated sectors still have data in them.  In DOS there was pretty much a filename as well.  In ext2 it's a slightly different story.  With ext3, journaling and other stuff make recovery vastly less likely to succeed.
[03:48] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, or did you mean that it had spaces in it?
[03:48] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, yeah, but I typed that in
[03:48] <foxwoods> now do the insertion as described before (get to where it says Identifier configured video card), go to the line below, press i, type in everything from this link http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=54960
[03:48] <karsten> foxwoods: /dev/sdf2 on /media/Boot OSX type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[03:48] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, it has spaces in it
[03:49] <foxwoods> from the section starting at "imtel 965"
[03:49] <anonident> sent me a pm if you do, if your busy helping someone now just let me know if you might have time later to help
[03:49] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, also, I typed it in and now I get this line in terminal: '>'
[03:49] <foxwoods> karsten: must have the wrong person
[03:49] <anonident> I would appreciate it
[03:49] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, ahhhh, well then use tab, it will autocyomplete the director
[03:49] <homebrewcider> Using xubuntu 8.10
[03:49] <homebrewcider> under system>hardware drivers, it says a nvidia driver is activated but not in use, how do I get it "in use" please?
[03:49] <karsten> foxwoods: Right.
[03:49] <foxwoods> karsten: I nor anyone I'm helping with has a problem with that
[03:49] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, ctrl-c to close that >
[03:49] <karsten> toastedmilk: Sec.
[03:49] <dfsadf> everything?
[03:49] <sb118__> Any ideas how to disable the touchpad while typing?
[03:49] <foxwoods> just hte section in the section device, identifier intel 964
[03:49] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, if you use tab it will fill in the spaces
[03:49] <karsten> toastedmilk: Best I can tell:  that's mounted directly as hfsplus.  You should be able to access anything as root.
[03:49] <foxwoods> everything after that Identifier line
[03:49] <limecat> does anyone know how to access the web interface of nagios after installing from repository?  It doesnt seem to match at all what is given on the nagios site
[03:49] <dfsadf> k
[03:49] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, just type the first couple letters of the dir, then tab
[03:50] <foxwoods> so type Driver   "intel"
[03:50] <karsten> toastedmilk: ... assuming no gimfoolery on the part of Apple, which I won't guarantee.
[03:50] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, tried it, not working
[03:50] <foxwoods> then VendorName "intel Corp"
[03:50] <foxwoods> etc
[03:50] <foxwoods> until BusID
[03:50] <toastedmilk> karsten, gimfoolery?
[03:50] <karsten> foxwoods: Sorry, confuzzed.
[03:50] <foxwoods> type that line
[03:50] <foxwoods> then type another newline
[03:50] <FloodBot2> foxwoods: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <foxwoods> Shut up FloodBot
[03:50] <karsten> toastedmilk: Too-clever electronics, DRM, or similar.
[03:50] <thiebaude> lol
[03:50] <foxwoods> then tell me how it reads in your xorg.conf between the section and endsection
[03:51] <karsten> toastedmilk: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=define%3Atomfoolery&spell=1
[03:51] <anonident> ubuntu could use better display setting configurations by default
[03:51] <anonident> why is everyone working on 4 different display managers
[03:51] <foxwoods> karsten: no worries
[03:51] <toastedmilk> karsten, I know what tomfoolery is! just not 'gim'!
[03:51] <karsten> toastedmilk: I may have made that up ;-)
[03:51] <musikgoat1> anonident: everyone has different preferences
[03:52] <musikgoat1> !best
[03:52] <limecat> well, obviously tomfoolery and gimfoolery refer to foolery by tom and gim (jim?) respectively
[03:52] <foxwoods> dfsadf: I have to go soon, but I'll help you try this new xorg.conf
[03:52] <foxwoods> then I'll have to go
[03:52] <foxwoods> and good luck :D
[03:52] <dfsadf> ok
[03:52] <tux9778> hi what else do i need to install with wine on 8.10 after i added the wine repo?
[03:52] <foxwoods> so how's it going with the typing from the link?
[03:52] <dfsadf> yikes this is nuts
[03:52] <toastedmilk> karsten, hehe
[03:52] <karsten> limecat: Do you have a brother?
[03:52] <karsten> limecat: lemoncat?
[03:52] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, Still get the '>' prompt
[03:52] <toastedmilk> billybigrigger, is that for the password input?
[03:53] <foxwoods> you're just doing the driver"intel", vendorName, boardname, 4 options, and busid right?
[03:53] <karsten> toastedmilk: Unclosed quote in shell.
[03:53] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, no, ctrl x?
[03:53] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, or z
[03:53] <scientes> S3 sleep doesnt work and hibernate takes forever and breaks my audio
[03:53] <billybigrigger> toastedmilk, haha i can't remember which one, its either ctrl c x z
[03:53] <dfsadf> finally
[03:53] <dfsadf> Got to the end
[03:53] <toastedmilk> karsten, well the directory im copying from has a ' in it
[03:53] <dfsadf> yes
[03:53]  * billybigrigger could never work at a help desk
[03:54] <toastedmilk> karsten, use quotes?
[03:54] <dfsadf> have got to the endsection
[03:54] <dfsadf> woo
[03:54] <dfsadf> and now?
[03:54] <musikgoat1> anonident: why?  development is happening with all the different window managers, kde people don't want gnome and gnome people don't want kde
[03:54] <musikgoat1> anonident: no pm please
[03:54] <squarebracket> scientes, sudo alsa force-reload usually makes my sound work again
[03:55] <foxwoods> tell me how it reads dfsadf
[03:55] <foxwoods> just type it on one line, use abbrevs
[03:55] <shane2peru> one more question before I re-install, does anyone know if there are any other kernel options for me to install in ibex
[03:55] <foxwoods> start from section to endsection
[03:55] <scientes> rythembox wont load and froze
[03:55] <anonident> musikgoat1: but the progress that each individual window manager can make is held back, developers have to deal with different set ups and configurations
[03:55] <scientes> and i reset and reloaded pulse and alsa
[03:55] <toastedmilk> karsten, mark@ToastedMilk:~$ suo cp "//media/ /Backups.backupdb/yans' apple/Latest/ /Users/YAWN/Music" chmod +x /home/mark/Music
[03:55] <toastedmilk> bash: suo: command not found
[03:55] <musikgoat1> anonident: thats the nice thing with linux is that there are many solutions to getting something done,  distributions that focus on only one way usually end up having forks where people want things their way anyways
[03:55] <scientes> toastedmilk, sudo
[03:55] <toastedmilk> scientes, yikes...
[03:55] <PeskyJ> I have created a "Launcher" icon to go to smb:// locations, how can I tell it to use the theme icon for "networked directories" ?
[03:56] <scientes> toastedmilk, xtrl-a
[03:56] <karsten> toastedmilk: That'll do it.
[03:56] <anonident> a better solution would be one where there was a primary window manager or development environment, like xwindows and then if people want to make mods for that fine
[03:56] <scientes> toastedmilk, ctrl-a
[03:56] <anonident> but it seems like there is redundant work going on
[03:56] <musikgoat1> anonident, this is offtopic,  chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:56] <nickrud> PeskyJ, click the icon in the launcher definition dialog window
[03:56] <dfsadf> section device indent config vid device, option usefbd ture, driver intel, vendorname intelcorp, boardname mobileetc, option dri true, option noddc true, optipon xaanetc true, topion accelmethod xaa, busid psi020, endsection
[03:56] <anonident> well I tried getting help with a technical problem but everyone ignored me
[03:56] <karsten> toastedmilk: If a file has a single or double quote in it, you've got to quote or escape it.
[03:56] <musikgoat1> anonident: state your problem again
[03:57] <anonident> I'm trying to set up an asus ati radeon 3450 with dual monitor support
[03:57] <anonident> it keeps messing up xserver
[03:57] <karsten> toastedmilk: So, say, "Mom's Recipies" has to be specified, like that, or as "cp Mom\s\ Recipies
[03:57] <PeskyJ> nickrud: that allows you to pick a custom icon (from a bitmap file presumably) but I want to use a theme icon, so it correctly changes if the theme changes, is thatt possible?
[03:57] <toastedmilk> karsten, also I put chmod +x in between where I wanted to copy from and where I wanted to copy to, and it wasn't working
[03:57] <raevol> anyone knows what causes the wierd artifacts that flash in windows just as they are opened?
[03:57] <bullgard4> /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop includes 2 lines "Exec=gnome-terminal" and "TryExec=gnome-terminal". What is the function of the second?
[03:57] <anonident> caused bootup to crash a few times after I mess with the settings and run aticonfig
[03:57] <karsten> toastedmilk: ... which gets to be a pain.  If you can avoid creating filenames with quotes and spaces, so much the better.
[03:58] <karsten> raevol: aliens.
[03:58] <raevol> karsten, hah :P
[03:58] <nickrud> PeskyJ, ah, not that I'm aware of. I'm not too up on the theme abstraction of icons
[03:58] <foxwoods> okay dfsadf press escape
[03:58] <toastedmilk> karsten, mark@ToastedMilk:~$ sudo cp "//media/ /Backups.backupdb/yans' apple/Latest/ /Users/YAWN/Music"  /home/mark/Music
[03:58] <toastedmilk> cp: omitting directory `//media/ /Backups.backupdb/yans\' apple/Latest/ /Users/YAWN/Music'
[03:58] <raevol> it's something i fixed a long time ago, but it's been a while since i fresh installed
[03:58] <dfsadf> ok
[03:58] <foxwoods> go to the line with Option FBDev true
[03:58] <musikgoat1> oh, that may be why you were ignored... people help when they know how, and ati is not as common as nvidia and intel in terms of support here,  you can always repeat your question periodically (all on one line, until someone bites) or post it at teh forum (or search there for your problem)
[03:58] <PeskyJ> nickrud: perhaps there's a symlink somewhere that points to the theme and you can pick the correct one from there?
[03:58] <foxwoods> and press dd
[03:58] <karsten> toastedmilk: Oh dear sweet ogd.
[03:58] <foxwoods> (yes two ds
[03:58] <dfsadf> ok
[03:59] <musikgoat1> anonident: ^^
[03:59] <toastedmilk> karsten, It's not my harddrive!  Like I said they're his Time Machine backups.  I just want the music!
[03:59] <dfsadf> it vanished... gasp
[03:59] <karsten> toastedmilk: That should work.
[03:59] <karsten> toastedmilk: Yeah, I know.
[03:59] <gold3ngr33n> dd
[03:59] <foxwoods> go down to the section "screen", and tell me what it says for Device
[03:59] <nickrud> PeskyJ, not that simple, sadly. if you look in /usr/share/themes, you'll see the generic theme icon names, but how that gets mapped is probably more complex than just symlinks
[03:59] <musikgoat1> anonident: and sorry, i cant help
[03:59] <toastedmilk> karsten, it brings back cp: omitting directory
[03:59] <toastedmilk> karsten, the hell is it doing that for?
[03:59] <karsten> toastedmilk: '-R' for recursive copy.
[03:59] <dfsadf> "configured video device"
[03:59] <karsten> toastedmilk: cp does just files by default.
[03:59] <charles> hi
[03:59] <Venin> im gonna put in a sd card.. how to prevent it from automounting?
[03:59] <toastedmilk> karsten, so -R instead of cp ??
[04:00] <cllaudyu> can someone tell me how can i update xfce and fluxbox???
[04:00] <karsten> toastedmilk: No.  'cp -R <stuff> <destination>'
[04:00] <allele> where should I look to find a simple game (2d graphics) for ubuntu?  I would like to make some native games
[04:00] <karsten> toastedmilk: man cp
[04:00] <foxwoods> okay, did your section device have a line with Identifier in it before our changes?
[04:00] <toastedmilk> karsten, ty sir
[04:00] <scientes> why does pulseaudio suck?
[04:00] <nickrud> PeskyJ, I'd ask that question on the forums. Someone may answer in a week or so. Maybe the mail lists also
[04:00] <raevol> anyone knows what causes the wierd artifacts that flash in windows just as they are opened?
[04:00] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[04:00] <karsten> scientes: Nothing sucks like a Vax.
[04:00] <raevol> ahahaha
[04:00] <karsten> toastedmilk: I'm out for the evening, have fun.
[04:00] <scientes> the init.d script doesnt do anything
[04:01] <scientes> seriouls
[04:01] <toastedmilk> karsten, one sec.  It brought back a blank line
[04:01] <musikgoat1> freenode is crapping out tonight, huh?
[04:01] <nickrud> karsten, nice to cross paths with you. See you about
[04:01] <PeskyJ> nickrud: ok, I'm not registered there yet, completely new to ubuntu, and completely new to using window systems on linux too
[04:01] <karsten> raevol: I suspect it's flash changing video modes for video playback, though I'm not certain of that.
[04:01] <PeskyJ> nickrud: only used linux on servers before
[04:01] <karsten> nickrud: Dittos.
[04:01] <Dominik> puff: to recap, what does the ubuntu-client do, and what does the ubuntu-server do?
[04:01] <nickrud> PeskyJ, understood. At least you have some grounding ;)
[04:02] <raevol> karsten, if its within the window and now the whole screen? same suspicion?
[04:02] <magic_ninja> whats the newest version of ubuntu
[04:02] <cllaudyu> i want to be nice
[04:02] <magic_ninja> i been off it a few months lol, realized how much i hate windows
[04:02] <cllaudyu> :))
[04:02] <xorlim> magic_ninja: 8.10 ibex
[04:02] <cllaudyu> wtf
[04:02] <raevol> karsten, not* the whole screen
[04:02] <foxwoods> eh dfsafd
[04:02] <dfsadf> hm?
[04:02] <bs12e> good nite everyone! off to bed
[04:02] <foxwoods> was there an Identifier in your section configured video device before
[04:02] <cllaudyu> ubuntu 8.10 has comething different ?
[04:03] <foxwoods> we did our changes
[04:03] <cllaudyu> what's new ?
[04:03] <toastedmilk> karsten, I copied them successfully but still don't have the permissions
[04:03] <puff> Dominik: Okay, here I'm  a little vaguer because I haven't looked into ubuntu's thin-client stuff.  Again, it's all about striking the balance as to what gets done where
[04:03] <Venin> how to disable automouunt?
[04:03] <karsten> raevol: I know.  Xorg supports some interesting stuff, including the ability to do video streaming to only part of the screen.  Some media players do a blue flash before they start displaying.
[04:03] <cllaudyu> how to update xfce
[04:03] <karsten> toastedmilk: Perms how?
[04:03] <dfsadf> uhm the identifier is configured video device
[04:03] <raevol> karsten, thanks
[04:03] <cllaudyu> how to update fluxbox
[04:03] <vnix> Is there any software similiar to tortoise SVN?
[04:03] <puff> Dominik: From the looks of this wiki page, ubuntu runs the apps on the server.
[04:03] <vnix> for Ubuntu/
[04:03] <dfsadf> in the section device
[04:03] <cllaudyu> i search
[04:04] <foxwoods> dfsasdf
[04:04] <foxwoods> ?
[04:04] <PeskyJ> I'm not too keen on this pidgin program for its IRC features.. is there a mIRC-like client for ubuntu?
[04:04] <cllaudyu> kewoul
[04:04] <foxwoods> did it or not?
[04:04] <Dominik> puff: so, from what you have explained so far, a think client wouldn't benefit from large amounts of ram and a fast CPU, correct?
[04:04] <cllaudyu> what?
[04:04] <puff> Dominik: X windows was one of the late period terminal emulation descendants; instead of shoving alphanumeric characters around, it was much more graphically oriented.
[04:04] <karsten> raevol: There's a guy "gravity" on #debian sometimes -- he's the xorg packager there.  Might ask him about this sometime.  I can't keep up.
[04:04] <foxwoods> oh
[04:04] <foxwoods> sorry
[04:04] <puff> Dominik: Yes and no. I mean, *everything* benefits to some extent from more RAM and more CPU :-).
[04:04] <foxwoods> just saw what you wrote
[04:04] <foxwoods> ok, we're all good
[04:04] <foxwoods> type :wq
[04:04] <dfsadf> ah ok
[04:05] <gavagai> PeskyJ, try xchat
[04:05] <raevol> karsten, thanks
[04:05] <dfsadf> done
[04:05] <foxwoods> back to console?
[04:05] <dfsadf> done
[04:05] <puff> Dominik: But yeah, part of the idea is to minimize the importance of cpu/ram at the thin client end
[04:05] <foxwoods> good
[04:05] <karsten> raevol: if he gives you heck for running ubuntu, tell him I sent you ;-)
[04:05] <cllaudyu> c'mon people doen't any one know how to update xfce?
[04:05] <foxwoods> now type exit
[04:05] <dfsadf> ok
[04:05] <raevol> haha ok
[04:05] <foxwoods> you should be back at your recovery console
[04:05] <PeskyJ> gavagai: ok, will try it :)
[04:05] <dfsadf> yes
[04:05] <foxwoods> select resume
[04:05] <foxwoods> and pray
[04:05] <dfsadf> ok
[04:05] <dfsadf> lol
[04:05] <dfsadf> wow
[04:05] <foxwoods> what happened?
[04:05] <cllaudyu> i will blow my minds off
[04:06] <puff> Dominik: From what I can read here, ubuntu thin-client is really thin - they're basially only using the client machine to run the X windows GUI layer..
[04:06] <musikgoat1> !enter | dfsadf
[04:06] <Dominik> puff: I still don't understand why HP sells "think clients" with 2 gigs o ram
[04:06] <puff> Dominik: Because they can.
[04:06] <Dominik> puff: so that be a dumb invenstment?
[04:06] <foxwoods> dfsadf what happened?
[04:06] <puff> Dominik: Btw, a warning about a possibly confusing bit of terminology, which you shouldn't have to worry about but we're talking about X windows so it might crop up somewhere.
[04:06] <dfsadf> sorry about my enter key punctuation. :) it says to create a user so that you can use your new sustem type adduser USERNAME.  its at a sort of console..
[04:06] <cllaudyu> bye world see u latter
[04:06] <foxwoods> type exit
[04:07] <scientes> how do i kill a Ssl process
[04:07] <Dominik> puff: as in Microsoft X Windows?
[04:07] <dfsadf> ok
[04:07] <foxwoods> or
[04:07] <puff> Dominik: The X Windows traditionally uses an on-the-face-of-it confusing usage of  the "client/server" terminology.
[04:07] <foxwoods> wait
[04:07] <foxwoods> stop
[04:07] <puff> Dominik: ohgodno.
[04:07] <toastedmilk> karsten, It says I don't have permissions to view the folder.  that's it
[04:07] <foxwoods> no
[04:07] <cllaudyu> how to remove windows xp from comp
[04:07] <foxwoods> type your the user name you want
[04:07] <kdlfaj> hi!
[04:07] <dfsadf> whoops. no, it restarted i typed exit.
[04:07] <toastedmilk> karsten, cannot display the files of folder blah blah, you do not have the permissions necessary
[04:07] <riley> poo
[04:07] <foxwoods> ok, fine
[04:07] <Dominik> puff: lol, funny response
[04:07] <karsten> scientes: get the process id (ps waux | grep [s]sl), kill w/ 'kill -5 <PID>'.  If that doesn't work, try kill -9.
[04:07] <foxwoods> boot it normally
[04:07] <puff> Dominik: X windows has nothing to do with Microsoft, though I woudn't be surprised to hear they're (at last) offering an X window sprogram.
[04:07] <foxwoods> that was my bad
[04:07] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: you could format the partition it's on
[04:07] <karsten> toastedmilk: On the sources, or the stuff you've copied?
[04:07] <foxwoods> didn't fully read what ou said
[04:07] <riley> what u guys think od obama
[04:07] <toastedmilk> karsten, on what I've copied
[04:07] <metalfan_> find . \( -name Semester\ 5 -prune -or -name Semester\ 4 -or -prune -name Studium.old -prune \) -o \( -atime -1 -print \)       will this skip the dirs "Semester 5", "Semester 4" and "Studium.old" and print all files with atime -1 from the other dirs?
[04:07] <foxwoods> OBAMANA
[04:08] <sysdoc> ok, apt-get _ __ packagename.deb to rip out a pkg?
[04:08] <karsten> riley: We think it's off-topic here.
[04:08] <foxwoods> dooo dooooo doo doo odoooooo
[04:08] <musikgoat1> !offtopic | riley
[04:08] <cllaudyu> Obamahana
[04:08] <puff> Dominik: x windows is just a super-glorified, graphically-oriented terminal emulator.
[04:08] <Politics> huh
[04:08] <foxwoods> anyways
[04:08] <kdlfaj> hi!
[04:08] <dfsadf> um, weird. it says Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode.
[04:08] <Politics> Oh
[04:08] <foxwoods> fine
[04:08] <Politics> Somebody else with my name.
[04:08] <Politics> okay.
[04:08] <foxwoods> white screen, y/n?
[04:08] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i could but how can i keep the files that are in?
[04:08] <puff> Dominik: I mean, don't get me wrong, it kicks ass, but in logical terms, it's just another program that's trying to provide a thin abstraction layer between your CRT and some CPU.
[04:08] <toastedmilk> karsten, is there some way to remove the permissions from terminal?
[04:08] <sysdoc> ok, apt-get _ __ packagename.deb to rip out a pkg? SDR please?
[04:08] <karsten> toastedmilk: You did run a 'sudo cp ...' right?
[04:09] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: copy the stuff you want to keep first
[04:09] <toastedmilk> karsten, correct
[04:09] <dfsadf> hmm. no white crean.
[04:09] <karsten> toastedmilk: on the _destination_ tree:   sudo chown -R <your userid> .
[04:09] <cllaudyu> Obama new president of Africa
[04:09] <foxwoods> so what does it say?
[04:09] <alba_> Can anybody help me with my emu10k problem?
[04:09] <musikgoat1> !offtopic | cllaudyu
[04:09] <sysdoc> cllaudyu, ummm wth are you doing?
[04:09] <karsten> toastedmilk: Recursively changes ownership to your user.  Root preserved file ownerships when it copied.
[04:09] <Dominik> puff: and we want abstraction so that the connection from client to server can be slower?
[04:09] <scientes> its still not ding
[04:09] <scientes> pulseaudio is compketely frozen
[04:09] <puff> Dominik: X windows *can* be RAM-intensive, so it's not a horrible idea to have a thin client with lots of RAM.
[04:09] <sysdoc> cllaudyu, take that obammy crap outa here
[04:09] <dfsadf> its in low graphics mode but i AM on the desktop... hn
[04:09] <foxwoods> dfsadf: do we have success?
[04:10] <foxwoods> YES!
[04:10] <foxwoods> well
[04:10] <puff> Dominik: So that a) less has to be sent over the connection and b) less has to be done on the server.
[04:10] <foxwoods> low graphics mode will have to wait
[04:10] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ how can I copy if i have drivers full?
[04:10] <foxwoods> As you saw, the xorg.conf I had you copy was from debian, and isn't the best
[04:10] <puff> Dominik: However, note that X Windows dates from at least the late 80s, probably mid-80s.
[04:10] <karsten> toastedmilk: tar is a utility you could have used to accomplish that in one step, research tar a bit.  Basically:  sudo tar cvf - <source> | ( cd destination; tar xf - )
[04:10] <foxwoods> and with your graphics card, you may not be able to run high graphics mode, but at least you can use your laptop!
[04:10] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: back-up to CD or DVD
[04:10] <Dominik> puff: with a gigabit ethernet connection should that be fast enough for the server to draw my screen?
[04:11] <dfsadf> hmm. is there any way i could get to full graphics?
[04:11] <foxwoods> if you find you have problems with it, do a search for xorg.conf Intel X1300, and copy someone's if they say they have a good copy
[04:11] <karsten> toastedmilk: ... which creates the archive as root (so it has access permission) but unpacks it as yourself (so it creates files with your ownership), all in a pipeline.
[04:11] <karsten> toastedmilk: It's a classic sysadmin trick.
[04:11] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i guees i need 200 cd's or 50 dvds...
[04:11] <foxwoods> low graphics mode I believe is without the bells and whistles of Compiz (the thing that does wobbly windows and stuff lik ethat)
[04:11] <SJr|Nbook>  I have a dd-wrt router, it has a openVPN connection to my server , dd-wrt box and the server can communicate, When I try to connect from my lan to the remote server, packets only go one way for some reason.
[04:11] <toastedmilk> karsten, with parentheses? or no
[04:11] <dfsadf> ok.
[04:11] <puff> Dominik: one bit of confusing terminology - people think of "client/server" as client == dekstop, server==mainframe. That's often the case, but client/server defines *roles* in a *relationship*.  In the X Windows world, the program that runs on the desktop is called the server.
[04:11] <karsten> toastedmilk: Yes, the parens start a subshell.
[04:11] <Reilithion> I seem to recall some time ago having used a program that allowed me to edit certain parts of xorg.conf graphically.  In particular I remember being able to choose which graphics driver to use.  What program might that have been?
[04:11] <foxwoods> in other words, you don't need it, but if you want it, that's another question and possibly another 4 hours
[04:12] <foxwoods> as for now, I have to go, but I'm glad I at least got you to a semi-working state
[04:12] <dfsadf> ahh I see... hmm! well thank you haha.
[04:12] <puff> Dominik: Because the client requests services from the server and in the X windows world, the service is access to the user's attention span.
[04:12] <foxwoods> your welcome
[04:12] <foxwoods> later everyone
[04:12] <puff> Dominik:  Yes.
[04:12] <dfsadf> :)
[04:12] <toastedmilk> karsten, can I do this locally or do I need to reinert the external?
[04:12] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: if you have that much data that you want to keep, then you might as well leave the windows partition as it is. You could delete the windows system files if you like to free up some space too
[04:12] <toastedmilk> reinsert*
[04:12] <puff> Dominik: Re: gigabit, yes.
[04:12] <karsten> toastedmilk: It's not something you want to do right now.
[04:13] <karsten> toastedmilk: Just a technique for future reference.
[04:13] <toastedmilk> karsten, right before I hit enter
[04:13] <puff> Dominik: Okay, I've got things to do... are you basically sorted out?
[04:13] <karsten> toastedmilk: chown will do you fro now.
[04:13] <karsten> toastedmilk: ;)
[04:13] <johnnyc> hi i have a few nfs exports /media/movies/, each are structured like /media/movies/MOVIENAME  -  how could i mount them all in a way so i see just the MOVIENAME directories in one folder
[04:13] <toastedmilk> karsten, chown didn't work
[04:13] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ that's what I want to do but if i can uninstall windows it would be great i'm wonderign how...
[04:13] <toastedmilk> karsten, 'sudo chown -R mark'?
[04:13] <karsten> johnnyc: That's possible.  I'm trying to recall the specifics.  The OReilly NFS book covers that.
[04:13] <karsten> toastedmilk: sudo chown -R mark .
[04:14] <karsten> toastedmilk: The '.' is significant.
[04:14]  * lifestream asks: hello, my mouse music buttons no longer work. is there a way to restore them>
[04:14] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: well if you delete all the windows files and applications, and keep all your data files.. windows is not installed, so you don't need to uninstall it as such
[04:14] <karsten> toastedmilk: It means the current directory.
[04:14] <Dominik> puff: lets say my "Server" (the one I dream about when I go to bed) has 16 cores, 16 gigabit ethernet connections and 64 megs of ram, does that mean I can virtually transform 16 P2s into 2 Ghz 4 GB mashines?
[04:14] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ but windows will stil be able to be detected
[04:14] <puff> Dominik: Something like that.
[04:14] <hightide> anyone pls help me
[04:14] <toastedmilk> chown: missing operand after `mark'
[04:14] <karsten> toastedmilk: So:  "chwon -R mark ." is the command
[04:14] <puff> Dominik: I won't bother trying to work out actual performance numbers, but that's sorta the idea
[04:14] <karsten> toastedmilk: *WITH* the dot.
[04:14] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: how? you just have a drive with all your data files on it and nothing else
[04:14] <cllaudyu> PaskyJ is not a great ideea... i tried this and nothing got right
[04:15] <toastedmilk> karsten, OH! thankies
[04:15] <karsten> toastedmilk: Synopsis:  chown <options> <userid> <files>
[04:15] <toastedmilk> karsten, chown: cannot read directory `./Music': Permission denied
[04:15] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i just deleted all the windows and system32 files
[04:15] <karsten> toastedmilk: '.' == current working directory.  '..' == parent
[04:15] <puff> Dominik: However, bear in mind that this is mainly directed at making it cheaper to manage many desktops.
[04:15] <karsten> toastedmilk: With  sudo?
[04:15] <puff> Dominik: Google on "total cost of ownership" sometime.
[04:15] <toastedmilk> oh, shit.
[04:15] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ but i had errors to after that...
[04:15] <Dominik> puff: so now we strike a blance between a terminal and a pc, so a thin-client must be written specifically for a range of resources in mind, where does the ubuntu thin client fit in, for how much ram/cpu was it written for?
[04:15]  * karsten WTFs.
[04:15] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: I think it should be easy enough to identify all your data files that you want to keep, then just remove EVERYTHING else
[04:15] <bob_> fff
[04:16] <toastedmilk> karsten, Thank you thank you thank you!
[04:16] <toastedmilk> karsten, but wait... ><  all the files are locked
[04:16] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ and wile rebooting windows will still pe prezent in the grub list i think
[04:16] <karsten> toastedmilk: ??
[04:16] <puff> Dominik: I don't really know, as I said, I haven't looked too specifically into ubuntu's thin-client stuff.
[04:16] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i'l try...
[04:16] <toastedmilk> karsten, they're all read only files
[04:17] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: possibly, I'm sure you can change that though, there's probably a mbr in the partition too, I don't know how to remove that manually
[04:17] <hightide> I made some changes to the port in sshd_config, i've changed it into port 2222, now when i tried to connect through ssh, it wont let me in, what should i do so that i could login through ssh with port 2222?
[04:17] <karsten> toastedmilk: They're music files, right?  mp3s or FLAC or something?
[04:17] <Dominik> puff: but does it make sense that if I want to emply the ubuntu thin client then I should buy a bunch of clients that fit into that range of resources?
[04:17] <toastedmilk> karsten, well folders with music in them
[04:17] <karsten> hightide: Restart/reload sshd
[04:17] <karsten> hightide: /etc/init.d/ssh reload
[04:17] <toastedmilk> karsten, but the folders all come up as read only's without permissions
[04:17] <Dominik> puff: or in other words it wouldn't make much sense to run the thin client on a 3 or 4 Ghz machine with 4 gigs of ram?
[04:18] <Kengine> I want to download the madwifi driver for my Atheros wifi card, I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and T500, where can I get the exact driver
[04:18] <karsten> hightide: And test with "netstat -tplv".  See where ssh is.
[04:18] <hightide> thanks karsten.
[04:18] <Reilithion> Question:  What's the Ubuntu way of changing xorg.conf?  I need a bit more control than dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg gives me, but I worry about directly editing.
[04:18] <karsten> Reilithion: $EDITOR
[04:19] <lvshankar> hello, i recently installed Ibex (32 bit) on my amd athlon 64 3200+ machine...due to my sata hard disk, i need to boot with pci=nomsi (else it won't detect my hdd) however, just before the login screen is rendered properly, my window freezes and i can only reset or unplug my box. any help?
[04:19] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i will search the net and try to find a better way to remove Windows and leave drivers cleanly but without windows i guess i can still mount ntfs drivers??
[04:19] <metalfan_> Reilithion, backup is the word youre looking for
[04:19] <karsten> Reilithion: if you can't tweak it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, just edit directly.
[04:19] <Reilithion> *shrugs*  Ok.
[04:19] <sysdoc> Ok any of you guys know anything about vmware??
[04:19] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i hope not to loose all that data...
[04:19] <sysdoc> SDR...
[04:20] <xcerca> i'm using totem-xine and trying to watch a movie that is an avi, but the colors seem inverted or somthing, it worked fine earlyer,  what would eb good to try ?
[04:20] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: yes, you can mount the drive still
[04:20] <metalfan_> sysdoc, np
[04:20] <metalfan_> no
[04:20] <setuid_w00t> Is ext4 considered stable now?
[04:20] <hightide> karsten: its working... thanks alot
[04:20] <sysdoc> metalfan_, if the ans is no, no need in answering
[04:20] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: if you can afford it, get a new hard drive and copy the stuff to there, then you can use whatever filesystem you like
[04:20] <karsten> hightide: NP
[04:21] <dfsadf> anyone -- what is a good laptop to install ubuntu on?
[04:21] <inktri> when i grep how do i ignore files ending in tilde???????
[04:21] <metalfan_> xcerca, try a different movie, one where you are sure that its not faulty
[04:21] <sysdoc> For U it was rhetorical
[04:21] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ only thing that bothers me, my webcam is not working on ubuntu...
[04:21] <metalfan_> sysdoc, your question was just utterly stupid
[04:21] <puff> Dominik: Depends on what your priorities are. Like I said, google "total cost of ownership". For many organizations, the cost difference between a 2GHz, 1GB machine and 4GHz, 4GB machine is negligible compared to the total cost of managing and maintaining the machine.
[04:21] <faryshta> metalfan_, what metal you hear? I am into Death and Gore.
[04:21] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: well I have no idea about that
[04:21] <sysdoc> dfsadf, any HP works well, except for the heating probs
[04:21] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ well i can do that but i have allready enough hard drives
[04:21] <xcerca> it's weird cuz i can watch the same movie in gnome-mplayer , but in totem-xine it's all wrong
[04:22] <dfsadf> yes, i have an HP and the reason i am getting a new laptop is because it heats up my entire root and overheats.
[04:22] <hightide> karsten: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused i have this error i'm sorry
[04:22] <metalfan_> faryshta, heavy metal - mostly.   like: dream evil, ensiferum, metallica, rage, megadeth
[04:22]  * lifestream asks: hello, my mouse music buttons no longer work. is there a way to restore them>
[04:22] <sysdoc> metalfan_, cause it was obviously over your head, now please sit down and be quite
[04:22] <TiMiDo> xcerca: have you download the w32codecs?
[04:22] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ only thing i want to keep windows for is yahoo messenger...
[04:22] <inktri> when i grep how do i ignore files ending in tilde???????
[04:22] <metalfan_> sysdoc, lol
[04:22] <sysdoc> :)
[04:22] <metalfan_> sysdoc, search for meta question on google
[04:22] <faryshta> dfsadf, I have an Aspire (Acer) and all works perfectly.
[04:22] <faryshta> Didn't need to install or hack anything.
[04:22] <karsten> !repeat > limecat
[04:22] <karsten> !repeat > lifestream
[04:22] <inktri> !repeat > limecat
[04:22] <karsten> limecat: Sorry
[04:22] <xcerca> TiMiDo , i've dled the w64codecs,  let me see if i can install the w32codecs
[04:22] <faryshta> metalfan_, so you are more into the classic stuff.
[04:22] <sysdoc> metalfan_, have vmware installed?
[04:22] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: this pidgin program in ubuntu seems to support yahoo messenger protocol
[04:22] <metalfan_> faryshta, yep
[04:23] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ i don't know what to do... i can't find a better IM then pidgin
[04:23] <dfsadf> faryshta, was it fairly simple? no messing with video stuff or drivers for hours on end?
[04:23] <TiMiDo> inktri: xcerca okey.
[04:23] <sysdoc> SDR
[04:23] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ but pidgin supports webcams?
[04:23] <metalfan_> sysdoc, ask a question damnit, dont ask if somebody has xyz installed....ask what you want to know
[04:23] <karsten> hightide: You can't  connect at :22 *or* :2222?
[04:23] <PeskyJ> cllaudyu: no idea, I've only ever used it for IRC so far
[04:23] <merther> I'm not sure linux is using my graphics card correctly.  it's an ATI Radeon 9100 and in most games  the graphics seem really slow.  Even in the os some things seem to be off.  Like when I drag a window around the screen it creates multiple copies of it.  Can someone help me getting the right drivers in here?
[04:23] <faryshta> dfsadf, I didn't install a video driver at all.
[04:23] <dfsadf> hmm.
[04:24] <faryshta> I just run it, my card is an ATI Radeon Xpress.
[04:24] <karsten> hightide: I've *really* got to go.  You can try killing the sshd server, launching it manually *nondaemon* mode: "sshd -dvv", then connecting: "ssh -vv localhost".  Look at debug messages on  both sides.
[04:24] <hightide> karsten: i'm sorry again, sorry for the dumb question.... i forgot to include -p
[04:24] <cllaudyu> PeskyJ ok i'l think about what can i do...i'm out bye
[04:24] <hightide> karsten: its fully working now...
[04:25] <tyler_> dose ubuntu have a power saver mode for my laptop?
[04:25] <Dominik> puff: thanks alot : )
[04:25] <hightide> karsten: thanks for your full support and much appreciated help
[04:25] <puff> Dominik: You're welcome :-).
[04:25] <sysdoc> metalfan_, if you do not have it installed then answering any question regarding vmware is not for you. However to challenge you severe lack of decorum, I have just installed it and have not the pleasure of seeing the launcher in apps>sys tools>___ have ya got a clue?
[04:25] <puff> Dominik: Just remember it the next time somebody asks you for help :-).
[04:25] <metalfan_> sysdoc, finally a question
[04:26] <karsten> hightide: NP.
[04:26] <lvshankar>  hello, i recently installed Ibex (32 bit) on my amd athlon 64 3200+ machine...due to my sata hard disk, i need to boot with pci=nomsi (else it won't detect my hdd) however, just before the login screen is rendered properly, my window freezes and i can only reset or unplug my box. any help?
[04:26] <stinger_> hello
[04:26] <metalfan_> sybariten, open a terminal, type vmw and hit tab multiple times...
[04:26] <bullgard4> /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop includes 2 lines "Exec=gnome-terminal" and "TryExec=gnome-terminal". What is the function of the second?
[04:27] <dougemd> Anyone help with setting up ssh rsa keys and removing password authentication. I used keygen to create public and private keys. I copied the .pub key to client ubuntu box as ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. But, it reverts to password. I even checked the file permissions and set 644
[04:27] <karsten> dougemd: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html
[04:27] <sysdoc> metalfan_, and yet no answer... so again please sit down and be quite...
[04:27] <stinger_> Just wanted to know if someone could help me out with checking a setup of a nvidia card - i have installed everything and all seems to work but when i open nvidia-settings i only see a few options - no dual screen options or anything like on my other system any ideas ?
[04:27] <metalfan_> dougemd, the .pub belongs on the server as authorized_keys
[04:28] <metalfan_> sysdoc, lol, your so lame
[04:28] <faryshta> metalfan_, with that I can play age of empires?
[04:28] <RickZilla> I just created a data DVD on a windows machine and tried to transfer all of the files on it to my ubuntu machine...I got an error which I'll paste here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/68698/  Then, I can see the drive on the desktop, can open it, and can see the files inside, but I can't transfer them over or open them up.  Can somebody point me in the right direction on this?  Thanks in advance for your help.
[04:28] <jamesxL> Does anyone know how to fix : CMake Error: your CXX compiler: "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" was not found. ?
[04:28] <sysdoc> Yea, but unlike your nick, I can actually pound out a tune on a 6 string and your still sitting wishing
[04:29] <TiMiDo> RickZilla: how are you mount it? and have you download the package ntfs-3 ?
[04:29] <jrib> jamesxL: what are you compiling?
[04:29] <jamesxL> amarok nightly build
[04:29] <sysdoc> metalfan_, Yea, but unlike your nick, I can actually pound out a tune on a 6 string and your still sitting wishingrry had  to addy it so you could read it
[04:29] <Kengine> sweeeeeeeeeet
[04:29] <dougemd> metalfan_: so the keygen takes place on the client machine? and the server needs a copy of the client.pub key to the server?
[04:29] <Kengine> madwifi worked
[04:29] <Kengine> haha
[04:29] <somian[0]> Hello. Are there rsync mirrors for Ubuntu releases so that I can try to recover a bad Intrepid download?
[04:29] <dougemd> karsten: thank you for the link
[04:29] <Addy> damnit
[04:29] <Addy> that gets annoying
[04:29] <jrib> jamesxL: sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[04:29] <mynous> for an ftp server would it be best to use a udp PROTOCAL?
[04:29] <RickZilla> TiMiDo:  It's an internal dvd drive...I don't know if I've downloaded ntfs-3 or not...is that readiliy available in Synaptic?
[04:30] <myr> anyone know how to manually change mouse sensitivity in 8.10?
[04:30] <TiMiDo> oh okey ic. RickZilla
[04:30] <jamesxL> i know it's there jrib
[04:30] <karsten> myr: xset IIRC
[04:30] <jrib> jamesxL: you know *what* is there?
[04:30] <PeskyJ> what's the file browser program called?
[04:30] <jamesxL> amarok?
[04:30] <sysdoc> myr, system>control center>mouse
[04:30] <jrib> myr: system -> preferences -> mouse or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/
[04:30] <bimberi> PeskyJ: nautilus
[04:31] <jrib> jamesxL: huh?
[04:31] <jamesxL> I wanted to see if nightly added touch 2g support
[04:31] <jamesxL> repo amarok doesn't work
[04:31] <PeskyJ> bimberi: ahh, thanks
[04:31] <puff> Hm, anybody want to help me with DNS for iwasaround.com?
[04:31] <myr> sysdoc, and jrib, the settings don't allow my mouse to go fast enough
[04:31] <Kengine> why doesnt sudo apt-get update install works
[04:31] <jrib> jamesxL: I don't understand how your responses are related to my suggestion
[04:31] <ubax> The popup which offered restricted nvidia drivers isn't showing up anymore. I'm in synaptic, have searched for "nvidia", and wondering what to install. I have a Geforce 7950 GX2.
[04:31] <merther> when moving windows around on the screen there seems to be tearing?  how can I get the graphics to work correctly.  I've got an ATI Radeon 9100
[04:31] <Kengine> neither does sudo apt-get install build-essential works
[04:31] <metalfan_> karsten, http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html       <- the default file the key is saved to is name with "identity" here....might confuse most users
[04:31] <puff> It appears to be on the server, I see it in ispconfig and in /etc/bind, but dig and host get a fail.
[04:31] <jrib> Kengine: pastebin what you are running and the output
[04:32] <RickZilla> TiMiDo:  A lot of files come up when I search for ntfs-3...do I install any of those?
[04:32] <sysdoc> myr, sensitivity>
[04:32] <TiMiDo> RickZilla: make some mountpoints in your home directory like this: mkdir disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 and mount it /dev/sda1 /home/username/disk1 ext2 defaults 0 2
[04:32] <TiMiDo> RickZilla: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3
[04:32] <jamesxL> "sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep amarok" installs and compiles nightly build?
[04:32] <jrib> jamesxL: no
[04:32] <jrib> !who | jamesxL
[04:32] <K_Dallas> Q: Is it possible not to show icons on the desktop? (just the wallpaper) Thanks
[04:32] <metalfan_> dougemd, the link from karsten will work, but try this one if it doesnt: http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1810
[04:32] <jrib> !icons | K_Dallas
[04:32] <karsten> metalfan_: Sorry, what is it in doc and what should it be?
[04:33] <jrib> K_Dallas: disable show_desktop in gconf
[04:33] <K_Dallas> thanks jrib
[04:33] <Kengine> jrib, says E:couldnt find package update :(
[04:33] <somian[0]> Aha, maybe ... yes. Found a listing with some. Thanks somian[0]! You rock. ;)
[04:33] <jamesxL> !tab
[04:33] <jrib> Kengine: please do what I said so I can help you
[04:33] <jamesxL> !tab jrib
[04:33] <karsten> metalfan_: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub now, right?
[04:33] <puff> Anyone know if it's feasible to fake a bind request via telnet?
[04:33] <jamesxL> o_O
[04:33] <myr> karsten, thank you
[04:33] <metalfan_> karsten, doc: ssh-keygen saves the key als identity.      i believe it uses id_rsa as the default
[04:33] <karsten> metalfan_: Right.  Fixing.
[04:34] <jrib> !pastebin | Kengine
[04:34] <puff> Or is there any way to query the running bind process and see its list of domains (other than simply looking in /etc/bind, because I see it in /etc/bind, but not in dig)?
[04:34] <Kengine> jrib, wait 1 sec lemme switch to tat machine
[04:35] <jamesxL> jrib do you know how to fix my problem?
[04:35] <jrib> jamesxL: I gave you a suggestion to fix your problem.  Did you do it?
[04:35] <karsten> metalfan_: Give that a re-read.  Should be fixed.
[04:36] <dougemd> metalfan_: I think the one other dumb thing I might be messing up. Where do I store the .pub file on the remote computer. In my home/user or /etc/ssh ?
[04:36] <the7thmagus1> when I have both my PC connected via wireless and also through ethernet, Ubuntu uses the ethernet connection as the default. how can I make wireless my default connection?
[04:37] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> you have two nics connecting to same router?
[04:37] <lvshankar> hello, i recently installed Ibex (32 bit) on my amd athlon 64 3200+ machine...due to my sata hard disk, i need to boot with pci=nomsi (else it won't detect my hdd) however, just before the login screen is rendered properly, my window freezes and i can only reset or unplug my box. any help?
[04:37] <the7thmagus1> no. I have my wlan0 connected to a wireless router, which shares connection with the ethernet through NAT
[04:38] <cyphase> wow, GParted has gotten much better since Hardy
[04:38] <Venin> what is a good file recovery program to use in ubuntu?
[04:39] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> which router is doing that NAT'ing?
[04:39] <karsten> Venin: You've had the answer to that already.
[04:39] <jrib> !recover | Venin
[04:39] <BoltClock> how do i know whether to use ntfs or ntfs-3g to automount in /etc/fstab?
[04:39] <karsten> BoltClock: Use ntfs-3g.
[04:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:39] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> to me you have two nics connecting to same router per your description
[04:39] <Dabbu> can i update ubuntu while offline ?
[04:39] <the7thmagus1> actually, sorry, I am not sure if it is NAT. I used IP masquerading
[04:39] <jrib> Dabbu: you can use the alternate cd
[04:39] <the7thmagus1> not the same thing, I suppose
[04:39] <fella12> can someone please help me with an installation question
[04:39] <Flannel> Dabbu: If you download the packages first, or the alternate CD, yes.
[04:39] <BoltClock> karsten: what should i type under options?
[04:40] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> to me you have two nics connecting to same router per your description
[04:40] <fella12> please pm me if you are free....thanks
[04:40] <karsten> BoltClock: That depends.  I'd suggest reading some ntfs-3g docs for that.
[04:40] <Dabbu> Flannel: i have 8.10,i want to keep 8.10 upto date
[04:40] <RickZilla> Could I get some help mounting a drive?
[04:40] <Flannel> Dabbu: You can download the packages while you're online, and then install them when youre offline.
[04:40] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> make man pages your friend,  man mount
[04:40] <karsten> BoltClock: ntfs-3g is apparently *much* better than the older ntfs driver.  I don't use either myself.
[04:40] <jrib> RickZilla: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[04:41] <the7thmagus1> hmm, ok. actually, let's start from scratch. I want to share my wireless connection with my Xbox 360, which is connected to my ethernet. how best to do this without any additional hardware?
[04:41] <fella12> can i have help installing ibex
[04:41] <RickZilla> jrib:  I thought that's what I did?
[04:41] <fella12> please...beginner question
[04:41] <Dabbu> Flannel: i have 200 updates...how can i download and update indivisual package
[04:41] <erikg> how do you reconfigure the X keyboard settings in intrepid?
[04:41] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> describe the network layout you intend to have
[04:41] <Flannel> Dabbu: sudo apt-get install package
[04:41] <fella12> running hardy right now
[04:41] <RickZilla> Ok, I'll try to ask what I asked before...
[04:42] <dougemd> thank you guys for the help that cleared it up!
[04:42] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> make man pages your friend,  man mount
[04:42] <jrib> RickZilla: "Could I get some help mounting a drive?" isn't a good question.  No one understands your issue, what you tried, what exactly didn't work and how, what type of drive, etc...
[04:42] <bullgard4> /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop includes 2 lines "Exec=gnome-terminal" and "TryExec=gnome-terminal". What is the function of the second?
[04:42] <LapLander> <-- beginner - just trying to get a feel for what happens on this channel - installing a fresh Ubuntu server right now
[04:42] <RickZilla> I just created a data DVD on a windows machine and tried to transfer all of the files on it to my ubuntu machine...I got an error which I'll paste here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/68698/  Then, I can see the drive on the desktop, can open it, and can see the files inside, but I can't transfer them over or open them up.  Can somebody point me in the right direction on this?  Thanks in advance for your help.
[04:42] <the7thmagus1> ubuntu PC connected to wireless router through wlan0 interface. xbox connected to ubuntu PC through eth0 interface. and I want to "bridge" these two connections
[04:42] <aceumus> any of you geniuses know how to get 3d acceleration to work in dual head mode
[04:43] <Venin> karsten: i overwrote the file by moving another file onto it in gnome.. i read somewhere that that way is kind of like deleting and not overwriting...
[04:43] <jrib> RickZilla: *that's* a question :)  Unfortunately, I've not seen that before
[04:43] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> are you the same guy wanting to bridge the ethernet port and  ask for an ip from AP (neighbor AP) right?
[04:43] <karsten> Venin: There are many fairy tales people turn to in times of hardship for comfort.
[04:43] <karsten> Venin: That doesn't make them true.
[04:43] <fella12> can someone willing to help a beginner with an easy question please pm me...i would really appreciate it
[04:44] <karsten> Venin: Your file is gone.
[04:44] <karsten> Venin: Get used to it.
[04:44] <the7thmagus1> n8tuser: no, that must be some other guy. I never asked that before here
[04:44] <n8tuser> the7thmagus1-> what is the reason for the bridging?
[04:44] <karsten> Venin: If you've got a copy somewhere, a printout, etc., you can type it in again.  Otherwise it's gone, gone, gone, gone, gone.
[04:44] <sysdoc> nice scroll
[04:44] <fella12> can someone willing to help a beginner with an easy question please pm me...i would really appreciate it
[04:45] <jrib> fella12: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[04:45] <Venin> karsten: you sure? seems logical
[04:45] <fella12> oh ok
[04:45] <n8tuser> fella12-> stay on the main channel, so others can share the knowledge
[04:45] <sysdoc> fella12, with a nick like that, i dunno
[04:45] <gavagai> now i'm aroused
[04:45] <BoltClock> karsten: will the wrong options corrupt my disk?
[04:45] <sysdoc> lol
[04:45] <sysdoc> sick unit
[04:45] <karsten> BoltClock: I don't know.
[04:46] <the7thmagus1> I need to get my xbox to connect to the internet to play online. I have somehow get my ubuntu PC to connect to the xbox and allow it to use my wireless network, because that it my only source of internet
[04:46] <fella12> my problem is that when i try to install ibex on hardy it says that i do not have enough hardrive space and states i only have 850 megs free...but when i go to the hardrive i have over 100 gigs....any idea? am i reading somethign wrong>?
[04:46] <karsten> BoltClock: man mount.  Read the ntfs-3g section, if it exists.  Read guides on ntfs-3g.  I don't know.  I don't know.
[04:47] <arquebus> Im trying to burn a DVD in brasero, but once I have the path selected, the burn button stays greyed out, anyone know why?
[04:47] <karsten> BoltClock: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[04:47] <stinger_> any one able to help me out
[04:48] <stinger_> i installed nvidia-glx
[04:48] <jrib> BoltClock: why don't you just use ntfs-config?
[04:48] <karsten> !ask | strider_
[04:48] <Vlet> Perhaps a stupid question, but can one 'downgrade' a system from x86_64 to plain ole 32 bit?
[04:48] <sysdoc> fella12, yea you are probably reading it wrong or havent repartitioned the drive yet
[04:48] <stinger_> but my nvidia-settings shows me very few options
[04:48] <karsten> !ask | stinger_
[04:48] <n8tuser> !ics | the7thmagus1
[04:48] <BoltClock> jrib: ntfs-config?
[04:48]  * karsten shoots his tab key
[04:48] <ArkoldThos> Vlet: no, you can't
[04:48] <Vlet> ArkoldThos: thanks :)
[04:48] <jrib> BoltClock: yes, it's in the repositories.  It will automatically setup your ntfs partitions
[04:48] <ArkoldThos> you need to reinstall the system in case you want to change the architecture
[04:49] <the7thmagus1> alright, thanks
[04:49] <bullgard4> In /usr/share/applications I added to the line 'Exec=gnome-terminal' the text " --geometry=105x68". This works when I click Applications > Accesories > Terminal. Why does it not work wehn I press Ctrl+Alt+T?
[04:49] <stinger_> karsten, yeah sorry about that only thing my res is so stuffed atm that its hard to see what i am typing if i do it all on one line
[04:49] <karsten> Vlet: No.
[04:49] <RickZilla> I just created a data DVD on a windows machine and tried to transfer all of the files on it to my ubuntu machine...I got an error which I'll paste here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/68698/  Then, I can see the drive on the desktop, can open it, and can see the files inside, but I can't transfer them over or open them up.  Can somebody point me in the right direction on this?  Thanks in advance for your help.
[04:49] <BoltClock> jrib: will check it out. before reinstalling hardy (yes i reinstalled) i only edited /etc/fstab except i forgot to back it up
[04:50] <MasterShrek> should i be using the -generic kernel on a dual-core processor?
[04:50] <erikg> upgraded to intrepid and now my X keyboard configuration is borked
[04:50] <jrib> MasterShrek: yes
[04:50] <erikg> the left arrow key is alt
[04:50] <karsten> MasterShrek: I believe SMP is enabled by default, yes.
[04:50] <erikg> the up arrow key is NoSymbol
[04:51] <MasterShrek> k, thx
[04:51] <fella12> my problem is that when i try to install ibex on hardy it says that i do not have enough hardrive space and states i only have 850 megs free...but when i go to the hardrive i have over 100 gigs....any idea? am i reading something wrong?
[04:51] <pangloss> erikg: lol nice
[04:51] <erikg> the windows key is NoSymbol
[04:51] <jrib> erikg: i've seen that issue a couple of times (unless you were here before).  Try checking bugs.ubuntu.com for an open bug
[04:51] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> when burning cd or dvd  you have to allow the Rockridge format so it can be read from other OS
[04:51] <erikg> jrib: great
[04:51] <erikg> jrib: will do
[04:51] <pangloss> fella12: whats your partitioning scheme like?
[04:52] <jrib> erikg: one possible workaround would be to revert to your old xorg.conf for the keyboard setup or just make hal not use evdev for your keyboard (that's my guess)
[04:52] <d3cryptkeyp3r> just a quick question. Is anyone else here having problems with compiling programs from source specifically with the "make" command on 8.10? I've tried 3 separate programs today and they've all had tons of errors and warnings on make.
[04:52] <BoltClock> jrib: ntfs-config seems to only deal with enabling write support for my ntfs drive. im looking to automount it
[04:52] <erikg> jrib: reconfiguring xorg.conf didn't work
[04:53] <erikg> jrib: hal is behaving like a certain computer which they once sent to one of the moons of jupiter
[04:53] <d0htem> where is md5 in sleutkit?
[04:53] <jrib> erikg: not reconfiguring.  Use your old one and add the right option so it's used for configuring input devices (man xorg.conf, search for hal)
[04:53]  * erikg shakes club
[04:53] <jrib> BoltClock: ntfs-config will set it up to be automounted
[04:53] <erikg> man 5 xorg.conf contains no mention of hal
[04:53] <fella12> pangloss...i am not sure as i installed a while ago
[04:53] <BoltClock> jrib: ohhh, i just saw, thanks
[04:53] <fella12> pangloss - how do i check and or chage it
[04:54] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> and maybe even include Joliet format too
[04:54] <jrib> erikg: are you on intrepid?
[04:54] <erikg> yes
[04:54] <jrib> erikg: it's there
[04:54] <guy_21> hi everyone
[04:54] <erikg> jrib: Hal?
[04:54] <erikg> HAL?
[04:54] <jrib> erikg: HAL
[04:54] <guy_21> i am new to this irc
[04:54] <pangloss> fella12: to check it use:   $df -h
[04:54] <guy_21> i need some help anyone intrested to help me
[04:54] <pangloss> fella12: to change them use gparted
[04:55] <erikg> jrib: ohh... maybe the upgrade didn't complete and i still have the  old xserver
[04:55] <n8tuser> !ask | guy_21
[04:55] <ghang> hi , do anyone know about JACK setup ( is about sound system ) i can't probaly setup the JACK i need some guide , i am using ubuntu studio.
[04:55] <guy_21> how do i connect my nokia 3220 mobile to connect to internet in ubuntu 8.04
[04:55] <metalfan_>  find . \( -name /Studium.old/Semester\ 3 -print \) -or \( -atime -5 -print \)        how do i tell find to not search in ./Studium.old/Semester\ 3?
[04:55] <jrib> erikg: X -version
[04:56] <ghang> ﻿(11:55:25 PM) ghang: hi , do anyone know about JACK setup ( is about sound system ) i can't probaly setup the JACK i need some guide , i am using ubuntu studio.  when i run JACK it always pop up a error msg !!!!!
[04:56] <fella12> i typed $df -h in terminal and it says bash: -h: command not found
[04:56] <n8tuser> metalfan_-> maybe an exclude ?
[04:56] <papna> I installed 8.10 on my eeepc and would like to try using Ubuntu Netbook Remix, but am having trouble figuring out how. Resources on the internet with clear explanations seem to be lacking.   I tried first just installing the package netbook-launcher. Nothing seemed to happen. When I try to launch netbook-launcher directly, I get a ghosted view of what it should look like. I found https://launchpad.net/netbook-remix and tried adding the
[04:56] <papna>  special repository and installing all the packages, but I'm still in the same boat.
[04:56] <RickZilla> Ok, I'll try this again...my dvd drive works just fine, I can play a commercial dvd in it...I tried to make a data dvd on a windows machine, and ubuntu is telling me that the drive won't mount.  I can see the drive on the desktop, but can't open the files inside...can somebody help me with this?  Thanks in advance for your help.
[04:56] <pangloss> fella12: dont type in a $.....
[04:56] <fella12> pangloss:  i typed $df -h in terminal and it says bash: -h: command not found
[04:56] <pangloss> fella12: $ signifies bash prompt
[04:56] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> when burning cd or dvd  you have to allow the Rockridge and Joliet format so it can be read from other OS
[04:56] <erikg> jrib: 2:1.4.1
[04:56] <pangloss> fella12: just type in df -h
[04:57] <jrib> erikg: yep, you're right about being on the old X server
[04:57] <erikg> jrib: i'm dist-upgrading now
[04:57]  * brantlymedders is away: Bed!
[04:57] <gaintsura> what directories should be backed up? /etc/ /home/ what else?
[04:57] <fella12> this is what the output was:  Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:57] <fella12> /dev/sda5              25G   24G  322M  99% /
[04:57] <fella12> varrun                505M  224K  505M   1% /var/run
[04:57] <fella12> varlock               505M     0  505M   0% /var/lock
[04:57] <fella12> udev                  505M   60K  505M   1% /dev
[04:57] <FloodBot3> fella12: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <fella12> devshm                505M   12K  505M   1% /dev/shm
[04:57] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  How do I do that?
[04:57] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> please google for this keywords Rockridge and Joliet
[04:57] <limecat> :( dont spam plz
[04:57] <Pip> Hello, can I download ubuntu installation DVD ?
[04:57] <erikg> jrib: it hadn't completed because of conflicts
[04:57] <bullgard4> In /usr/share/applications I added to the line 'Exec=gnome-terminal' the text " --geometry=105x68". This works when I click Applications > Accesories > Terminal. Why does it not work when I press Ctrl+Alt+T?
[04:57] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  Thanks, I'll check it out
[04:58] <pangloss> !paste | fella12
[04:58] <guy_21> plz help me with my problem
[04:58] <LapLander> RickZilla - What version? a bug in 8.04 caused CD mount issues (220957) - seems to be fixed in ibex
[04:58] <pangloss> pip it only comes on cd
[04:58] <jrib> bullgard4: what is ctrl-alt-t ? that's not a default shortcut
[04:58] <Pip> thanks
[04:58] <fella12> oops sorry
[04:58] <sysdoc> gaintsura, /home is about all you should need, unless you saved files elsewhere
[04:58] <fella12> output was  http://paste.ubuntu.com/68706/
[04:58] <n8tuser> LapLander-> he burned it in windows..so he needs to makes sure RockRidge and Joliet format for compatibility with other os
[04:58] <RickZilla> LapLander:  Ibex, but I had upgraded from Hardy
[04:59] <fella12> cant figure out what the heck is taking all my hardrive space
[04:59] <gaintsura> sysdoc: only a few, mainly installed stuff.. shouldn't /etc/ be included as well so that I don't have to spend weeks configuring things again?
[04:59] <bullgard4> jrib: I thought it is a default shortcut. I am using ist for years in Ubuntu to call a GNOME terminal.
[04:59] <jrib> bullgard4: find where you set it
[04:59] <pangloss> fella12: looks like you've use 99% of your root partition
[04:59] <n8tuser> fella12-> your /  is 99% only 322megs left
[05:00] <fella12> how do i check the total size of teh actual hardrive? its much bigger than that
[05:00] <sysdoc> gaintsura, not really.. U upgrading??
[05:01] <n8tuser> fella12-> sudo fdisk -l
[05:01] <karsten> fella12: df -h
[05:01] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  I see that it's a standard, but I don't see how to apply it to my situation
[05:01] <karsten> fella12: .. also /proc/partitions.  fdisk -l is another.
[05:01] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> your burn may not be compatible or readable in ubuntu..so make sure its formatted with Rockridge and Joliet
[05:01] <gaintsura> no, paranoid... I lost my work drive last weekend, spent 3 days and got only the files I need
[05:02] <bullgard4> jrib: I set it using System > Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > (Keyboard Shortcuts) > Desktop > Run a Terminal.
[05:02] <fella12> its a 160 gb hardrive...where is all the rest?
[05:02] <pangloss> fella12: to resize it use gparted
[05:02] <pangloss> !gparted | fella12
[05:03] <fella12> when i get gparted what eaxctly do i do?
[05:03] <palomer> how do I mount my windows vista partition?
[05:03] <palomer> is there an automatic way to do it?
[05:03] <pangloss> fella12: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/manpage.php
[05:04] <limecat> palomer: yes, with fstab
[05:04] <jrib> bullgard4: well I don't offhand how that decides what to run.  The easy workaround is to just use xbindkeys to bind your shortcut.  The hard way is to download the source and see exactly how it works.  Maybe dig around gconf as well
[05:04] <palomer> isn't there some kind of easy app?
[05:04] <temppy> palomer: places?
[05:04] <fella12> i installed it using terminal but it doesnt come up in the application window
[05:04] <cache1> so I accidentally ran while [ 1 ]; do beep; done; for about 30 seconds
[05:04] <jrib> bullgard4: oh, maybe system -> preferences -> preferred applications?
[05:04] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  So I do that on dvd burning end, on my windows machine?
[05:04] <cache1> how long is it going to beep for?
[05:04] <fella12> man i am horrible at this...sorry guys
[05:04] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> yes in the burning end
[05:04] <pangloss> fella12: lol its ok
[05:04] <creeed> hello how can I allow gnome to enable png-Icons?
[05:05] <PeskyJ> aha, xirc seems a bit nicer than pidgin :)
[05:05] <limecat> palomer: there may be, but generally its automatic--so if its not automatically mounting, either A) something messed up, and editing /etc/fstab is a good place to start looking, or B) youre not shutting down properly
[05:05] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  What if it isn't?  I can't use the dvd's burnt on that machine?
[05:05] <zhanx> when i try to install a theme [18144.418275] gnome-appearanc[28974]: segfault at 0 ip b77a333f sp bff9fc40 error 4 in libpango-1.0.so.0.2201.0[b7778000+40000]
[05:05] <creeed> should I install any GTK+ engine for that?
[05:05] <temppy> PeskyJ: what do you like about xirc?
[05:05] <pangloss> fella12: if you download the iso, you can burn it to a disk and boot off of it like a live cd, then you can resize your partitions very easily
[05:05] <fella12> my burner is broken :(
[05:06] <punktalk> any help for ubuntu newb?
[05:06] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> it may not be readable to other OS, so google for how your windows burning application can make it readable to other OS
[05:06] <PeskyJ> temppy, it aligns up the start of conversation on the left, it nicely colourises messages for me
[05:06] <limecat> punktalk: whats up
[05:06] <PeskyJ> temppy, not sure what else yet, First time ever using it :)
[05:06] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  Thanks for the help, that points me in the right direction
[05:06] <temppy> PeskyJ: are you talking about xchat?  I didn't find xirc...
[05:06] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> you're welcome
[05:06] <Guest10041> .
[05:06] <punktalk> Warcraft III: FT. both installed properly, but when i attempt to actually run the .exe, i get a weird 'Fatal Error'
[05:07] <punktalk> tried it in wine too, no avail
[05:07] <PeskyJ> temppy, oh yeah, sorry.. xchat IRC
[05:07] <pangloss> fella12: try going to Applications>>System Tools
[05:07] <pangloss> fella12: see if it there
[05:07] <creeed> !ubottu theme
[05:07] <limecat> punktalk: are you running a recent wine?  did you check the winehq appdb to see if theres anything special you need to do for warcraft to run?
[05:08] <temppy> PeskyJ: (Im totally addicted to pidgin btw, so Im always curious why people like other tools better)
[05:08] <fella12> no didnt show up there
[05:08] <froduntu> good night, I'm not being able to see text on some dialog boxes, neither in wine
[05:08] <froduntu> I've checked my theme
[05:08] <limecat> the appdb generally has some good tips on dealing with wine issues
[05:08] <neoice> does anyone know how to grow a Wubi partition?
[05:08] <fella12> pangloss: its not there
[05:08] <froduntu> hm...
[05:08] <fella12> pangloss: do i have to update to show it in application window
[05:08] <froduntu> will check
[05:08] <froduntu> thanks limecat
[05:08] <limecat> ?
[05:09] <bullgard4> jrib: Ah, yes:  system -> preferences -> preferred applications (> Preferred Applications) > System > GNOME Terminal > Command shows greyed out: "gnome-terminal" (without my added option). How can I change this greyed out value?
[05:09] <papna> I have installed Intrepid on my eeepc and installed netbook-launcher. How do I make it supplant the normal user interface?
[05:09] <PeskyJ> temppy, well for IM I'm sure pidgin is great... but for IRC the online/offline status doesn't seem to make the same sense, also I couldn't do like /leave and things in pidgin, it didn't seem to have the same context of a server with lots of channels, more like a separate "chat"
[05:09] <punktalk> limecat: warcraft III is on their 'platinum list', says should run perfectly right out of the box. but the same thing happened when i tried to open it regularly, says part of the memory was referred to x0000000 and couldn't be read
[05:09] <froduntu> limecat, I thought you were answering me
[05:09] <limecat> froduntu: oh, was talking to punk, but glad it helped :D
[05:09] <punktalk> lol
[05:09] <froduntu> well, it didn't yet
[05:10] <pangloss> fella12: no, the best you can do is command line then
[05:10] <limecat> punktalk:  couple of things--some games need to run in opengl mode, make sure you have graphics drivers, make sure you have a recent wine
[05:10] <pangloss> fella12: the only way I know to use gparted is with a livecd of it
[05:10] <fella12> how do i do command line
[05:10] <pangloss> fella12: otherwise you have to unmount your filesystems and things like that
[05:11] <pangloss> fella12: open a terminal and type in$ man gparted
[05:11] <feng14> limecat try to install cedega to run WarcraftIII
[05:11] <jrib> bullgard4: just use custom
[05:11] <limecat> feng14: punktalk is the one with warcraft :) im just trying to help him
[05:11] <fella12> pangloss i did that
[05:11] <fella12> now hat
[05:11] <tech0007> punktalk: check if your using 3d-enabled driver for your card, and use winehq's version
[05:11] <limecat> anyways, if wines having issues, cedega possibly will too, and i think it costs money
[05:11] <punktalk> limecat: alright man thanks. im not too familiar with the ubuntu/linux system so idrk what opengl mode is =P but ill do my drivers
[05:12] <froduntu> people I've got some problems
[05:12] <bullgard4> jrib: I do not understand what do you mean by "custom"?
[05:12] <froduntu> I can't see text in wine
[05:12] <punktalk> tech0007: ok thanks
[05:12] <jrib> bullgard4: from the drop down menu that now says "GNOME Terminal", choose "Custom"
[05:12] <punktalk> froduntu: is ur color system inverted or anything? used to happen to me
[05:12] <tech0007> !wine
[05:12] <froduntu> for example when I run winecfg it just shows me the dissabled text
[05:12] <feng14> limecat, A e, i have made a mistake
[05:12] <_cb> What does windows have over Ubuntu beside games?
[05:12] <froduntu> hm
[05:13] <froduntu> no I have the regular ubuntu theme
[05:13] <limecat> punktalk: i run world of warcraft, and i have to specify "gxapi = Opengl" in a config file to get it to run properly
[05:13] <tech0007> _cb: BSOD ?
[05:13] <froduntu> I could perhaps change themes temporarily
[05:13] <limecat> but yes, i would check in #winehq
[05:13] <_cb> Not sure what BSOD is
[05:13] <PeskyJ> can you specify desktop icons to only appear on one of the desktops?
[05:13] <froduntu> how do you do that?
[05:13] <pangloss> fella12: find a friend with a cd burner =/
[05:14] <punktalk> limecat: haha i have no idea what that means but ill give it a shot. total newb just started ubuntu today.
[05:14] <froduntu> limecat, what do you mean when you say check in #winehq?
[05:14] <froduntu> ohhh sorry you mean the chanel
[05:14] <limecat>  the irc channel
[05:14] <froduntu> gotcha
[05:14] <froduntu> thanks
[05:14] <tech0007> _cb: blue screen of death...linux has the black screen lol
[05:14] <bullgard4> jrib: I still do not understand: The drop-down menu Applications > Accessories does not include a menu item "Custom".
[05:14] <fella12> ok...haha...by the way...how is the new ubuntu ibex? anyone think its worth the upgrade
[05:14] <limecat> punktalk: dont worry bout the opengl so much, make sure you have video drivers though, do you have an nvidia card?
[05:15] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  My file system on the burner is ISO + Joliet, is that good enough?
[05:15] <jrib> bullgard4: no.  The drop down menu in System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[05:15] <pangloss> fella12: are you happy with hardy?
[05:15] <limecat> fella12: ive had fewer issues (ie, none) with ibex than any other ubuntu
[05:15] <limecat> and the wallpaper is fantastic :3
[05:15] <RAdams> What's the polite way to kill X and save the current gnome session?
[05:15] <pangloss> limecat: just download the wallpaper and use it in hardy =P
[05:15] <fella12> its ok...i must admit that it's a lil slow and sometimes glitchy....and terrible at running youtube/flash in general
[05:16] <RAdams> fella12: adobe's fault -- revert to flash 9
[05:16] <limecat> pangloss: that would be creating an abomination :( hardy with the head of ibex?
[05:16] <pangloss> fella12: intrepid isnt any better
[05:16] <froduntu> hm no response in #winehq
[05:16] <froduntu> but I'll keep trying
[05:16] <pangloss> limecat: its alive!!!
[05:16] <froduntu> thanks fellow penguins
[05:16] <limecat> froduntu: wait, i was talkin to punktalk
[05:16] <limecat> what was your issue'
[05:17] <fella12> hope u guys dont hate me but i feel my mac is more stable than ubuntu
[05:17] <_cb> Ubuntu installation was easier than XP, from what I have read Open Office is pretty close to MS Office. Had to drop to command line to get sound on flash but not terribly difficult. Have been using Ubuntu only 2 days but am wondering why isn't it more popular than it is.
[05:17] <punktalk> limecat: yeah nvidia. geforce 8600 gts
[05:17] <limecat> fella12: thats possibly true, but compiz is possibly cooler than mac so there
[05:17] <Rimdar_Klall> Hello! I have an issue that seems to have arisen. When mousing over the minimize, maximize, close buttons in GNOME, the bar goes all screwy, changing colors and buttons disappearing.
[05:17] <Rimdar_Klall> What can be done about this>?
[05:17] <fella12> that is true....running compiz
[05:17] <LF|Irssi> is there CLI command to completely and permanently kill the screesaver? Ive tried the GUI way and it keeps turning on every 30 mins
[05:17] <dig> !bash > me
[05:17] <Narcissus> '>' isn't a number!
[05:18] <pangloss> fella12: ubuntu = free, mac = expensive
[05:18] <limecat> punktalk:  have you gone into restricted driver manager and enabled the nvidia driver?
[05:18] <fella12> it looks nice no doubt there....thinking about turning this into a hackintosh...anyone done this
[05:18] <pangloss> fella12: not bad for free huh?
[05:18] <punktalk> im actually still downloading the driver. i totally forgot XD. been away from the comp from a couple of months and decided to start fresh with ubuntu.
[05:18] <limecat> fella12: compiz is nice, so long as you keep ahold of your config...nothin worse than spending 2 hours making it perfect and then losing it in a harddrive wipe
[05:19] <limecat> punktalk:  :D thats probably what it is then
[05:19] <fella12> true
[05:19] <Rimdar_Klall> I should specify- I'm running 8.10
[05:19] <pangloss> limecat: compiz is broke in intrepid for nvidea, drive doesn't work =/
[05:19] <fella12> anyone install mac osx on a dell
[05:19] <thomasite> Hi! Please help me. I have a problem with F-spot. Thumbnails of my photos appear but when I click on a photo, only the 'icon' for the photo appears. Also, when I tried using Fullscreen view or slideshow, the photos do not appear. :(
[05:20] <bullgard4> jrib: Now it works. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[05:20] <limecat> pangloss: yea, somethins wierd with either the 177 nvidia drivers, or compiz, it causes me to lose text in bash
[05:20] <RHorse> !network | RHorse
[05:20] <RAdams> fella12: That's a violation of the Apple EULA. Unfortunately, it can not be discussed here.
[05:21] <fella12> oh sorry
[05:21] <tech0007> i got rid of f-spot, in favor of picasa3
[05:21] <RAdams> pangloss: not it isn't.
[05:21] <fella12> one last question
[05:21] <RAdams> no, not not >.<
[05:21] <dig> hi, I have this: find -name .wget-list -execdir download.bash ';' -----> It complains that it cannot find download.bash
[05:21] <pangloss> thomasite: open the image in fspot, and then drag the window bigger; then in the bottome right move the slider bar to the right
[05:21] <fella12> anyone get a google android phone
[05:21] <limecat> RAdams: pretty sure youre allowed to install other os's on the mac--so long as OSX is installed on a REAL mac
[05:21] <RAdams> dig: #bash
[05:21] <limecat> i think "hackintosh being illegal" is when its OSX on a pc, not linux on a mac :)
[05:21] <pangloss> RAdams: yes, it is... theres a bug filed on launchpad and nvidea is working on it
[05:21] <thomasite> it doesn't work, pangloss. no image appears. only a gray rectangle, an icon--probably--for photos.
[05:22] <neoice> so the Wubi docs say I need LVPM but there's not a 8.10 version out
[05:22] <neoice> think GParted will work?
[05:22] <PeskyJ> encrypted directories... in nautilus there's an "encrypt" option if you right-click, does that encrypt the directory and leave it there, or does it mount it to an encrypted directory?
[05:22] <thomasite> tech0007, is picasa really really better than f-spot? i haven't tried that one yet. :)
[05:22] <RAdams> limecat: no, I assure you, OS X is not licensed for use on any machine except a mac. he was asking how to get osx on a dell
[05:22] <pangloss> thomasite: right click on photo you want to open and select fspot to open it
[05:22] <After_Math> Can someone help me out with my volume? doesnt seem to be as loud as it used to be now with the newest version of Ubuntu.
[05:22] <Rimdar_Klall> So, does anyone know about the bug for the title bar of windows? With the colors going screwy when you mouseover the minimize/close buttons?
[05:22] <limecat> RAdams: oh, oops, i musta been talkin to someone else
[05:22] <pangloss> thomasite: it still doesnt open right now?
[05:22] <fella12> any google g1 android phone users out there
[05:22] <After_Math> Rimdar_Klall, same thing here, only when I maximize firefox
[05:23] <limecat> was under the impression he was tryin to do ubuntu on a mac
[05:23] <tech0007> thomasite: more functional than f-spot. you can try it w/out removing f-spot
[05:23] <After_Math> fella12, right here
[05:23] <After_Math> fella12, and I love it :)
[05:23] <olskolirc> hey guys what is the time format that i need to  turn this military time clock on my kde to regular 12 hour reading?
[05:23] <Rimdar_Klall> Ah, It seems to be primarily on non-maximized windows for me
[05:23] <tech0007> After_Math: I too have that sound issue, haven't figured it out yet though
[05:24] <RHorse> !love > RHorse
[05:24] <tech0007> After_Math: im damn too lazy
[05:24] <gaintsura> how do I generate a reinstallable script of installed items?
[05:24] <limecat> Rimdar_Klall: you running compiz?
[05:24] <pangloss> !kubuntu | olskolirc
[05:24] <After_Math> tech0007, strange though, It worked in the last version now its all screwy
[05:24] <Rimdar_Klall> limecat: I don't think so? I have GNOME.
[05:25] <tech0007> After_Math: weird thing is, only happen when i'm watching videos, rhythmbox's fine
[05:25] <limecat> Rimdar_Klall: compiz is special effects on your desktop--like wobbly windows, or minimize/maximize effects.  You can check under system-->preferences-->appearance-->visual effects
[05:25] <thomasite> pangloss: it defeats the purpose of viewing many photos at one glance and choosing one from among the many. i mean, i use f-spot to take a look at all the photos at one time and then choose the best from them. if i have to view photos individually, it'd take me a lot of time. :(
[05:25] <limecat> if its set to anything other than "none", you are using compiz
[05:25] <pangloss> thomasite: does it work that way though?
[05:25] <fella12> after-math its nice huh?
[05:25] <thomasite> tech0007: okay, i'll try downloading it.
[05:25] <Rimdar_Klall> Ah. Yes, I tried it on the full-on setting, and had the problem, and still have it on the 'some" setting.
[05:25] <Rimdar_Klall> lemme try disabling it.
[05:25] <After_Math> tech0007, ya same here. Now I am starting to think it might be the player? are your movies dvdripped?
[05:25] <limecat> try none
[05:25] <fella12> after-math i am just watiing for some seriously needed programs
[05:26] <RAdams> What's the polite way to kill X and save the current gnome session?
[05:26] <thomasite> yes, pangloss. does this mean f-spot can't handle that rather large number of photos?
[05:26] <tech0007> thomasite: you'll loveit
[05:26] <punktalk> ubuntu is quite frustrating......
[05:26] <thomasite> I actually re-installed F-spot but it didn't work.
[05:26] <fella12>  after-math : expected them to come out a lot faster
[05:26] <RHorse> RAdams:  restart?
[05:26] <Tolarian> Did anyone notice that compiz does not use the proper settings after today's update?
[05:26] <Rimdar_Klall> Well scratch my back and call me grandma, disabling effects done fixed that lil' rascal.
[05:26] <tech0007> thomasite: f-spot's pathetic
[05:26] <limecat> RAdams: would setting a preference in sessions to save your session, then doing a ctrl-alt-backspace do it?
[05:26] <Rimdar_Klall> Thanks, limecat!!!
[05:26] <roy_hobbs> Here's a good one.  I'm trying to set up my Dell IR receiver on com2.  When LIRC starts up, my system completely freezes.
[05:27]  * Rimdar_Klall awards limecat with 30 Winpoints.
[05:27] <pangloss> thomasite: when you open fspot, did you click  photo>>import
[05:27] <limecat> Rimdar_Klall: compiz sometimes messes things up, not sure why, but check the compiz channel
[05:27] <pangloss> thomasite: and import the folder you have with photos?
[05:27] <Rimdar_Klall> Is it #compiz ?
[05:27] <RAdams> RHorse: ok, slightly less polite. :| limecat: I don't typically want the session saved, just on this occasion, and I want it all triggered from a bash script with no user interaction
[05:28] <limecat> RAdams:  beyond me, although i wonder if it wouldnt be possible to do a session save and monitor from a console what files are saved
[05:28] <limecat> and possibly deduce what needs to be done from there
[05:28] <billybigrigger> punktalk, why do you find ubuntu frustrating?
[05:28] <neoice> so I've been using the Compiz control panel because I wanted extra effects
[05:28] <RAdams> limecat: seems like setting that option would set a flag somewhere that can be triggered by a command or at least using sed with the right file
[05:28] <neoice> how come the GNOME apperance settings turns off the effects?
[05:29] <thomasite> pangloss, no i didn't. stupid i. :D
[05:29] <ss23> So, I installed ubuntu, all good, then I installed windows like a few months later, and its written over the boot loader for ubuntu (or so I'm assuming), can I use the ubuntu disk to sort of 'repair' my old instalation and keep this windows one?
[05:29] <neoice> and then when I turn them on, it eats my settings!
[05:29] <RAdams> !enter | neoice
[05:29] <thomasite> I'll try Picasa later today, tech0007.
[05:29] <limecat> RAdams: i bet its in gconf, but ive never found out where gconf saves its settings (.gvfs or something?)
[05:29] <pangloss> thomasite: not stupid =P
[05:29] <neoice> so helpful.
[05:29] <thomasite> So I have to import these photos first before I can actually view them?
[05:30] <thomasite> Aaargh. All the while I was thinking that since thumbnails of those photos already appear on F-spot, I could just click them and do my job.
[05:30] <limecat> i wonder if theres some tool like filemon for winXP that you can use on linux to monitor file access...
[05:30] <ardchoille> Just switched to ubuntu today and I'm really liking the tabbed ui in nautilus
[05:30] <RAdams> limecat: yeah some of it is in the gconf virtual file system, .gvfs, other parts are in other files. I'll see if I can dig out what happens during a session save
[05:30] <RAdams> limecat: yes, read the atime on an ext3 partition :o
[05:30] <PeskyJ> seems like encfs and fuse is the way to go for encrypted directories
[05:30] <limecat> RAdams: if this were a weekend id be tempted to spend the next 4 hours working on this thing with you :D
[05:31] <limecat> and what do you mean atime?
[05:31] <Hilton> Okay. First, the explanation: I have a system with 3 hard drives. We'll call them hard drives 1, 2, 3. Windows XP is installed on hard drive 1. HD2 is a mass storage drive. HD1&2 sit on the IDE cable (yes, people still use those). HD3 is on a cable with the DVDR, and has been a multiple use drive. At present, it is being used to test Ubuntu.
[05:31] <RAdams> neoice: it's equally unhelpful when you use many lines to ask a question in a support channel with 1000+ people in it. If you want support, do what the bot said, please
[05:31] <PeskyJ> question though, do you have to manually unmount the visible directory or will logging out be enough?
[05:31] <tech0007> PeskyJ: crypkeeper.
[05:31] <neoice> radams: every time I come in here, I get no support anyways, so why bother? /part
[05:31] <Hilton> For the testing, HD 1 & 2 were unplugged and HD3 was plugged in as the primary drive. I would now like to put all three together, but need to know how to setup the multiboot to allow XP or Ubuntu (temporarily) and to know how Ubuntu will handle these 2 extra NTFS drives showing up.
[05:31] <thomasite> And also, here's another, serious problem. When I had 8.04, shutting down my laptop was easy. Now that I have 8.10, it doesn't work most of the time. Either it takes long to shut down or it doesn't shut down at all (and I'm forced to press the power button, which is very, very dangerous.)
[05:31] <LF|Irssi> i just did 'locate gconf' its all over the place lol
[05:32] <thomasite> tech0007: picasa can't be found using synaptic, no? i have to download it manually from google?
[05:32] <Hilton> Can anyone tell me what I need to do?
[05:32] <LF|Irssi> theres a .deb for it
[05:32] <Doctor_Nick> DUHN DUHN DUHN
[05:33] <punktalk> billybigrigger: im having a bit of trouble trying to download my video card driver
[05:33] <RAdams> limecat: atime is the access time of file records, recorded as part of ext3's journaling this has been deprecated for ubuntu recently in favor of relatime. for more info, the wikipedia article on ext3 is pretty decent
[05:33] <PeskyJ> tech0007, is that a front-end to encfs and fuse? or a front end to encrypting and decrypting files as needed?
[05:33] <Doctor_Nick> BABBY
[05:33] <limecat> Hilton: i can tell you life would have beeneasier if you had the other drives plugged in during the install
[05:33] <tech0007> thomasite: picasa.google.com
[05:33] <pangloss> thomasite: open this guide:  http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.10-p3
[05:33] <LF|Irssi> thomasite: on the picasa 3 download page get the .deb file
[05:33] <limecat> but generally ubuntu will just automount the ntfs partitions
[05:33] <tech0007> PeskyJ: its a front end to encfs and fuse
[05:33] <pangloss> thomasite: scroll down to 10, it will tell you everything to do
[05:34] <PeskyJ> tech0007, awesome :)
[05:34] <Hilton> limecat: Done for safety reasons. I've had too may testing OS's in the past screw up or wipe drives or mess with bootloaders they never should have touched.
[05:34] <Hilton> I suppose I could reinstall again...
[05:34] <limecat> RAdams: ah, thats not what i meant, this is filemon: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896642.aspx
[05:34] <limecat> basically, shows every file access, allows filtering by process, path, action, etc
[05:34] <fella12> thanks pangloss im out
[05:34] <sysdoc> Can anyone assist with vmware?
[05:35] <limecat> one of sysinternals best programs :P
[05:35] <RAdams> sysdoc: #vmware
[05:35] <GeorgeA> I'm using torrentflux-b4rt, and after the update to ubuntu 8.10, it no longer displays the download speed when I download something using wget, how can I get it to show the speeds again?
[05:35] <sysdoc> RAdams, been ther done that
[05:35] <thomasite> Okay, thanks!
[05:35] <dig> no one........
[05:35] <thomasite> But as regards the problem of shutting down the laptop...:D
[05:35] <limecat> Hilton: ubuntu wont touch ntfs drives that it thinks it could damage (marked dirty, etc), and i dont believe it will screw up anything unless you ask it to
[05:36] <RAdams> limecat: I know what filemon is, and if you read the atime of file records, you could get the same information :)
[05:36] <pangloss> !virtualbox | sysdoc
[05:36] <schnoowork> nyone know of any ubuntu rss readers that support greader ?
[05:36] <sysdoc> pangloss, sorry,vmware noy vb
[05:37] <mepholic> 𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺
[05:37] <After_Math> hey tech0007
[05:37] <pangloss> sysdoc: whats wrong with your vmware, and is it VMware server or vmware legit?
[05:37] <limecat> RAdams: how would you get those?  ls and grep or something?
[05:37] <sysdoc> pangloss, server
[05:37] <Hilton> limecat: Okay. Next question: Can the Ubuntu installer be trusted to partition an NTFS drive?
[05:37] <tech0007> After_Math: yo
[05:37] <After_Math> tech0007, I got the fix
[05:38] <mepholic> guys: 𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺
[05:38] <Hilton> Or, just how much "lower disk performance" is there when using the Windows install option?
[05:38] <limecat> Hilton: as long as you dont accept defaults :) it can resize drives, if you use gparted (i think the installer will do it too), but defaults if you just hit next are to just divide the drive in 2 i believe
[05:38] <tech0007> After_Math: waht did u do?
[05:38] <cane> hello to all
[05:38] <pangloss> !hi | cane
[05:38] <xiangfu> Hi , no sound when i update to 8.10
[05:38] <RAdams> limecat: I don't remember, I'd have to go research it again
[05:38] <limecat> i would do a manual partition and manually resize the ntfs partition
[05:38] <After_Math> tech0007,  add this   " options snd-hda-intel model=3stack "    to your   /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:38] <After_Math>     file
[05:38] <ballzee> how in kde do you open your home dir ?
[05:38] <cane> thank you for the warm welcome now enjoying 8.10
[05:38] <mepholic> 𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼
[05:38] <mepholic> 𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷
[05:38] <mepholic> 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺
[05:38] <FloodBot3> mepholic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <limecat> lol, plz dont do that
[05:39] <xiangfu> when i use mplayer under terminal, the output is AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[05:39] <xiangfu> AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample
[05:39] <pangloss> !kde ballzee
[05:39] <RAdams> xiangfu: what soundcard
[05:39] <pangloss> !kde | ballzee
[05:39] <sysdoc> pangloss, What is wrong is that I installed from rpm, and the tutorial that I was following says that I should launcher in apps>sys tools>__. yet I have none
[05:39] <tech0007> After_Math: that wont work for me coz i dont have hda-intel...i got an ASUS
[05:39] <After_Math> tech0007, then all I did was toggle back and forth between difference devices under volume control, tried a movie and it worked
[05:39] <PeskyJ> tech0007, I installed and ran cryptkeeper, can't figure out the UI though, I don't have any mount/unmount options
[05:39] <After_Math> tech0007, ah
[05:40] <After_Math> tech0007, can't help much more then sorry brotha
[05:40] <xiangfu> RAdams:  it is :  ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:40] <pangloss> sysdoc: there is nornally a .desktop file that will install your icons and such
[05:40] <ballzee> god it has to be easyer to just sit there quiet and let someone answer if they want that put all that shit up
[05:40] <pangloss> sysdoc: does it start from command line?
[05:40] <limecat> tech0007: if youre talking about the motherboard, i have an asus too, and it uses hda-intel for sound
[05:40] <RAdams> !language | ballzee
[05:40] <Black_Knight> i have recently upgraded to intrepid.
[05:41] <tech0007> PeskyJ: u click on it on the applet, then pick either new or imported encrypted folder, follow the prompts
[05:41] <Black_Knight> but can't make my gnome work with it...
[05:41] <sysdoc> pangloss,  that is what I was looking for a lil help with
[05:41] <xiangfu> RAdams: no sound in  rhythmbox. and GUImplayer.
[05:41] <pangloss> ballzee: this is not the kde or kubuntu support channel
[05:41] <sysdoc> cli cmds and suck
[05:41] <icheishvili> hey guys, just installed 8.10--the restricted drivers manager is not enabling the nvidia driver--does anyone know why?
[05:41] <Black_Knight> other desktop environments such as xfce etc work well
[05:41] <sysdoc> pangloss, cli cmds and suck
[05:41] <Black_Knight> any idea
[05:41] <sysdoc> such sorry
[05:41] <pangloss> ballzee: you will find better help from those other channels
[05:41] <PeskyJ> tech0007, ahh, duh, thanks.. I was just right clicking and going to the preferences box :P
[05:41] <limecat> Black_Knight: you could try a reinstall of gnome, but what happens when you try to run it?
[05:41] <temppy> icheishvili: which driver?
[05:42] <RAdams> xiangfu: anything interesting happen in dmesg? try "dmesg | grep sb400" or so
[05:42] <_vvd> anyone knows if the realtime kernel works with fglrx? for me IRQ-16 is going crazy with rt and fglrx
[05:42] <icheishvili> temppy: it calls it the "nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 177)"
[05:42] <pangloss> sysdoc: you have your virtual machines?
[05:42] <Black_Knight> limecat, I tried that too...i had an upgrade from hardy to ibex.....after i give my credential in the login screen...the keyboard cloggs...the mouse works well thou
[05:42] <PeskyJ> tech0007, does it auto-unmount when you log out?
[05:42] <NeNiTa> hola
[05:42] <icheishvili> anyway, when i select activate, it very quickly displays a progress bar and never activates it
[05:42] <RAdams> _vvd: what's your kernel version?
[05:42] <Black_Knight> limecat, and i dont see any other thing in my screen except from the wallpaper i set!
[05:42] <sysdoc> pangloss, machines?
[05:42] <ballzee> how dumb to think no one will ask a question except about the OS
[05:42] <xiangfu> RAdams:  it's output nothing
[05:42] <icheishvili> no in my past experience this has always been rather flaky, but I haven't been able to fix it thus far
[05:42] <pangloss> sysdoc: I think you can start vmware from cli with vmware-cmd
[05:43] <temppy> icheishvili: interesting, that one should work..
[05:43] <RAdams> !manners | ballzee
[05:43] <Twerk^> 'lo all
[05:43] <_MattB> I just installed 8.10 onto a USB thumbdrive and when I reboot it says "invalid or damaged boot partition"
[05:43] <_vvd> RAdams: 2.6.24-21
[05:43] <pangloss> sysdoc: yes, your VMs, vmware server wont be able to create new virtual machiens for you
[05:43] <tech0007> PeskyJ: haven't really tried that...i just use it to keep my **** .. you know, lol
[05:43] <ballzee> vmware that come with unbutu now ?
[05:43] <_MattB> is there antything I can try to get the boot loader installed without reinstalling the whole thing?
[05:43] <zhanx> advanced ? possible to thin client PXE boot ubuntu
[05:43] <RAdams> xiangfu, post your complete dmesg to paste bin (dmesg > ~/dmesg-output)
[05:43] <sysdoc> pangloss, no I need to create the Vm's and start from the git go
[05:43] <Twerk^> having some trouble getting ubuntu running on an ibm intellistation.  Was getting GRUB Hard Disk Error for the longest time, so after a day of fiddling I gave up and installed LILO... it's erroring too... anyone able to help?
[05:44] <limecat> Black_Knight: I cant think of anything offhand, except that one solution would be to delete all of the settings files related to gnome, and/or doing an apt-get --purge remove of gnome and then reinstalling'
[05:44] <pangloss> sysdoc: you need virtualbox then
[05:44] <pangloss> sysdoc: vmware server wont do it
[05:44] <pangloss> sysdoc: =/
[05:44] <_MattB> zhanx, YES
[05:44] <Black_Knight> limecat, ok will give it a try too..........but are there any bugs or issues reported earlier ?
[05:44] <RAdams> _vvd: if possible, can you try 2.6.27-7-rt and see if the problem persists?
[05:44] <tech0007> sysdoc: virtualbox i think is better than vmware
[05:44] <icheishvili> hold on, I think it just freaks out when you don't have an apt database file
[05:44] <icheishvili> weak...
[05:44] <PeskyJ> tech0007, money laundering records?
[05:44] <PeskyJ> tech0007, ;)
[05:45] <zhanx> _MattB, ok can i ue my windows box as the server?
[05:45] <sysdoc> pangloss, serious??
[05:45] <limecat> Black_Knight: i had some issues with an ibex beta with gnome getting screwed up (or maybe it was bash) and i ended up just reinstalling ubuntu--sometimes its just less time
[05:45] <zhanx> seu
[05:45] <_vvd> RAdams: depends, how big are my chances that it will work? :)
[05:45] <tech0007> PeskyJ: haha
[05:45] <pangloss> sysdoc: yes. the vmware that makes VMs is very expensive
[05:45] <Twerk^> anyone ever even SEEN "GRUB Hard disk error"??
[05:45] <ballzee> can talk about windows but not kde
[05:45] <RAdams> _vvd: better than not trying it
[05:45] <MattP> I am trying to change/delete the password on a grub based install of Ubuntu
[05:45] <RAdams> ballzee: go somewhere else to complain
[05:45] <limecat> i mean if we know a reinstall will fix it, and you can quickly get your stuff set up again, its easier (if less fun) to just reinstall the whole thing
[05:45] <pangloss> sysdoc: VMware server is only for running premade VMs
[05:45] <MattP> I am in a empty root shell, but am having no luck
[05:45] <Black_Knight> limecat, yea but wtih loads stuff on ur box.............its pretty hard to take that hand :)
[05:45] <xiangfu> RAdams: hi i change the guimplayer Audio use ALSA, it's work ,but when i close the mplayer it's always blink sound here
[05:46] <limecat> Black_Knight: im lucky to not have many things that are hard to set up :)
[05:46] <ballzee> why i got my answer here
[05:46] <evan_> anybody know how to get webcams working with ubuntu?
[05:46] <limecat> evan_: does it not work, or do you just not have a way to use it?
[05:46] <pangloss> !webcam > evan_
[05:46] <MattP> I am trying to change/delete the password on a grub based install of Ubuntu I am in a empty root shell, but am having no luck.  I am trying to use the command: passwd -d Nathan Willd
[05:46] <Black_Knight> limecat, :)
[05:46] <_vvd> RAdams: is it problematic to install that kernel (i assume its from ubuntu 8.10) on heron?
[05:46] <RAdams> sysdoc: to make vmware virtual instances, you need the commercial, non-free vmware software to do it
[05:46] <Twerk^> can anyone at least tell me where i can get some help with grub?
[05:46] <ballzee> hey my ubuntu didnt come with a web cam is that on a differnt cd ?
[05:47] <evan_> well it works with luvcview
[05:47] <Twerk^> or lilo?
[05:47] <ffej2ffej> Hello, everyone
[05:47] <evan_> but glitches up really bad with skype
[05:47] <ziroday> MattP: are you trying to change your users password or grubs password?
[05:47] <Twerk^> hello ffej2ffej
[05:47] <sysdoc> RAdams, hmmm
[05:47] <limecat> MattP: youre doing it the hard way :) create a copy of your /boot/grub/menu.lst, then edit it, and remove the password line
[05:47] <nickrud> MattP, if there's a space in your username (echh) use Nathan\ Willd
[05:47] <MattP> username password
[05:47] <pangloss> MattP: are you sure you want to change your grub password?
[05:47] <RAdams> _vvd: define "problematic". you will probably have to jump through a few hoops to get everything working. given that heron is still supported, I would file a bug report at launchpad
[05:48] <RAdams> xiangfu: use pastebin please
[05:48] <MattP> no, I want to change the username password, is there a difference?
[05:48] <nickrud> MattP, what is your username?
[05:48] <MattP> Nathan Willar
[05:48] <Twerk^> a full day of seeing GRUB Hard disk error... GRUB Hard disk error... GRUB Hard disk error... someone's gotta have some insight...
[05:48] <nickrud> that's the name you type into the login screen??
[05:48] <Twerk^> a full day of seeing GRUB Hard disk error... GRUB Hard disk error... GRUB Hard disk error... someone's gotta have some insight...
[05:49] <temppy> Twerk^: can you give specifics?
[05:49] <limecat> MattP: there is a GUI way to chhange it--system-->administration-->users and groups, click your name, properties
[05:49] <limecat> you can change it from there, and it will also let you verify your user ID
[05:49] <pangloss> MattP: when you use passwd at the terminal, you need to use an escape character in front of the space in your name
[05:49] <MattP> I cannot enter any of the users, single user system
[05:49] <MattP> escape character?
[05:49] <ffej2ffej> I am trying to run a php script with crontab.  On the old installation, the command was /usr/bin/php5-cgi <php script>.  I just re-installed LAMP, and now I cannot find anything.  I cannot find php5-cgi nor anything else to run php scripts.  I looked through the entire phpinfo() page, too.
[05:49] <Hilton> Twerk^: Isn't it clear? Your hard disk is having errors because it's grubby. Take it out and give it a bath!
[05:49] <RAdams> MattP: passwd nameOfUser
[05:50] <nickrud> MattP, then simply   passwd <username>    passwd Nathan\ Willar   (note the slash before the space)
[05:50] <Twerk^> tamppy:  its an IBM Intellistation M Pro.  Had trouble getting it to recognize my AIC7899 scsi controller so I opted for IDE.  One drive, no other os.
[05:50] <xiangfu> RAdams: what is pastebin , i just use "dmesg > ~/dmesg-output" as you said.
[05:50] <Twerk^> Installed seemingly fine
[05:50] <thomasite> Hi. I just want to know. Which is better, Ubuntu or Fedora? Pardon my ignorance.
[05:50] <RAdams> !better | thomasite
[05:50] <Twerk^> when i reboot I get GRUB Hard disk error
[05:50] <maxxist> thomasite ubuntu
[05:50] <limecat> xiangfu: www.pastebin.com will allow you to paste multiple lines for him to see without flooding chat
[05:50] <nickrud> thomasite, of course ubuntu is, why else would we be in this channel?
[05:51] <thomasite> :)
[05:51] <Doctor_Nick> lollllllllllllllllll
[05:51] <Doctor_Nick> :)
[05:51] <MattP> Ah bummer, it says I have the wrong username
[05:51] <RAdams> xiangfu: copy the contents of dmesg-output to pastebin
[05:51] <Twerk^> did some googling on "GRUB Hard disk error"  and my model and aparently some people have had more luck with lilo
[05:51] <RAdams> !pastebin | xiangfu
[05:51] <maxxist> thomasite I came into the linux world in redhat and fedora.  when I tried ubuntu I never went back
[05:51] <MattP> Is there anyway to check the present usernames?
[05:51] <Twerk^> installed lilo, and when i go to write the mbr i get "Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sda")
[05:51] <nickrud> MattP, grep 1000 /etc/passwd , that will show you the original name
[05:51] <Twerk^> "
[05:51] <temppy> Twerk^: is doesnt give an error number?
[05:51] <sysdoc> pangloss, so this won't work?? http://www.squidoo.com/use-existing-windows-installation-and-apps-in-ubuntu
[05:51] <Twerk^> temmpy: no.  no error number
[05:51] <TIMREICHH> hi guys
[05:52] <nickrud> MattP, the first name, before the first : , is the username
[05:52] <limecat> thomasite: IMO fedora is horrible, SELinux was a disaster (updates caused issues with it, hosing stuff randomly), the package manager was nowhere near as slick (yum slow, apt fast), and after a few updates, the system was broken
[05:52] <TIMREICHH> im getting this error Fatal error: require_once
[05:52] <MattP> nathan
[05:52] <Twerk^> I even tried GPG, which boots from the mbr ok, but then it won't load an os
[05:52] <MattP> thank you
[05:52] <limecat> i probably did something wrong, but ubuntus never given me trouble like that
[05:52] <nickrud> passwd nathan
[05:53] <mepholic> 𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺
[05:53] <Twerk^>  
[05:53] <limecat> MattP: whoami
[05:53] <nickrud> mepholic, no special chars here, please
[05:53] <limecat> MattP: also, use the users and groups GUI applet under system-->administration
[05:53] <mepholic> SORRY
[05:53] <MattP> Authentication token lock busy
[05:53] <pangloss> sysdoc: you have windows and ubuntu dual booted?
[05:53] <Twerk^> AHH your special char broke my screen.
[05:53] <nickrud> mepholic, we're old school ;)
[05:53] <LeeSaferite> I just installed 8.10 on a brand new computer and the audio is wonky.  It's only coming out of one channel and doesn't sound quite right.  Does this sound remotly familiar to anyone?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/68715/
[05:53] <evan_> does anybody know how to keep the sound from dying when suspending?
[05:54] <MattP> password unchanged
[05:54] <brandon_> Anyone know any way to download the contents of a website?
[05:54] <mepholic> nickrud, riiiight ;D
[05:54] <jim_p> LeeSaferite: remove pulseaudio
[05:54] <mepholic> ubuntu
[05:54] <sysdoc> pangloss, yup
[05:54] <mepholic> oldschool
[05:54] <mepholic> i lol'd
[05:54] <FloodBot3> mepholic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <mepholic> SIR
[05:54] <LeeSaferite> jim_p is that the official methond?  =)
[05:54] <mepholic> I AM NOT FLOODING
[05:54] <evan_> i know there is a command to reload it but is there a way to fix
[05:54] <nickrud> mepholic, its just debian with a pretty face, Old School
[05:54] <pangloss> sysdoc: ohhh
[05:54] <limecat> lol@meph
[05:54] <limecat> er
[05:54] <temppy> Twerk^: I would try a different distro, maybe redhat/fedora
[05:54] <xiangfu> RAdams: hi here is http://paste.ubuntu.com/68718/
[05:54] <pangloss> sysdoc: you might be saved then =)
[05:54] <MattP> Can I display the current password?
[05:54] <TIMREICHH> can anybody seeing what im typing
[05:54] <mepholic> lul nickrud
[05:54] <nickrud> TIMREICHH, yep
[05:54] <mepholic> if you want oldschool
[05:54] <TIMREICHH> alright just making sure
[05:54] <mepholic> get BSD
[05:54] <mepholic> :P
[05:55] <xiangfu> thanks limecat, ubottu.
[05:55] <RAdams> MattP: no. if you don't know any users/passwords on the system, there's a good chance you're not supposed to.
[05:55] <pangloss> sysdoc: did you install vmware-server from add/remove  ?
[05:55] <sysdoc> pangloss, sorry didn't realize that he Vm also meant a dual boot situation
[05:55] <sysdoc> pangloss, I tried to install from there but no joy..
[05:55] <LeeSaferite> jim_p so, if I remove pulseaudio, what sound server should I use? if any
[05:55] <TIMREICHH> can somebody tell me why i am getting this error? Fatal error: require_once Failed opening required 'MDB2/Driver/mysql.php'
[05:55] <jim_p> LeeSaferite: its the method that says you dont neew 2 stuff running at the same time to have sound. i only have alsa and i am fine. besides, yout onboard card is fully supported by alsa, so wi bother with software like pulseaudio
[05:56] <jim_p> ?
[05:56] <Twerk^> to be honest i tried debian yesterday
[05:56] <nickrud> MattP, no, passwords are a one way hash
[05:56] <Twerk^> it didnt work either
[05:56] <pangloss> sysdoc: open up a terminal and try$ vmware-cmd
[05:56] <sysdoc> pangloss, was suggested that I just pull down ver2 from vmware's site and continue
[05:56] <punktalk> hey limecat u still here?
[05:56] <limecat> ya
[05:56] <jim_p> Twerk^: do you face any specific problem?
[05:56] <MattP> I understand how it looks, a friend is lending me this computer to set up a wifi at school for the year.  He has not touched it in a year and knows that the password is something related to his name.  I am trying to figure out why it will not let me type in a password when it says Enter New UNIX password:
[05:56] <MattP> As soon as I press a key it says: Retype ne UNIX password:
[05:56] <LeeSaferite> jim_p I'll try it out.  But, is there some known issue with pulseaudio?
[05:56] <Twerk^> jim_p i cannot get either grub nor lilo to boot my machine
[05:56] <sysdoc> pangloss, bash: vmware-cmd: command not found
[05:57] <MattP> then it tells me that the authentication token lock busy
[05:57] <jim_p> Twerk^: are you on raid or something?
[05:57] <nickrud> MattP, you are typing --- just pressing  'a' causes it to request it again?
[05:57] <sysdoc> pangloss, bash: vmware-cmd: command not found it is installed
[05:57] <jim_p> LeeSaferite: yes. squeeky audio, not working audio where you expect it to work etc
[05:57] <pangloss> sysdoc: did you install vmware server from a .deb?
[05:57] <temppy> Twerk^: debian and ubuntu are fairly similar, fedora might support lilo OOTB.  I google'd your hardware briefly, and someone said fedora worked for them...
[05:57] <jim_p> common audio stuff :P
[05:57] <nickrud> MattP, ah. I saw that once: I ended up rebooting back into recovery mode, and was ok. Never did figure out why it did that
[05:57] <MattP> yes, just pressing "a" causes it to ask for a retype
[05:57] <Twerk^> jim_p: no.  its a single IDE drive but its in an ibm server so it may have a funky hard drive controller
[05:58] <sysdoc> pangloss,  yea, had to alien it and then installed
[05:58] <pangloss> sysdoc: did you use apt-get? or did you build from source?
[05:58] <MattP> Oh, ok, I will try a reboot
[05:58] <MattP> thanks for the tip
[05:58] <fattmoley> I can only get skype to work if I start it with a sudo? Anybody know a solution to this?
[05:58] <sysdoc> pangloss, rpm pff of the site
[05:58] <sysdoc> off
[05:58] <tech0007> nautilus crashes when trying to view an iso mounted using 'archive mounter' :"nautilus[10464]: segfault at 0 ip b75fed07 sp bfc41994 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.1800.2[b75a2000+b5000]"
[05:58] <Twerk^> temmpy:  though i appreciate your comments, i didnt come to #ubuntu for a "try a different distro" answer
[05:58] <zamarax> anyone have a tutorial on how to profile gnome on ubuntu for faster login to desktop time?
[05:58] <LeeSaferite> jim_p thanks, i'll try removing it then
[05:58] <jim_p> Twerk^: well you can install lilo in debian and ubuntu if you want.
[05:58] <tech0007> help?
[05:58] <punktalk> limecat: im starting to lose my patience. i tried to dl the nvidia linux driver and it tells me to run it in a command window, i try and it doesn't work
[05:58] <TIMREICHH> can somebody help me with my problem
[05:58] <pangloss> sysdoc: rpm? are you using ubuntu?
[05:59] <Twerk^> jim_p: i attempted that and i recieve this:
[05:59] <limecat> punktalk: wait, are you downloading it from nvidia?
[05:59] <After_Math> How do you suggest fixes for Ubuntu?
[05:59] <pangloss> !ask | TIMREICHH
[05:59] <csilk> !ask | TIMREICHH
[05:59] <nickrud> tech0007, try looking on bugs.ubuntu.com , under nautilus and file-roller . If you don't see a bug, file one
[05:59] <cane> TIMREICHH, whats your problem
[05:59] <Twerk^> Warning: Ignoring entry 'boot'
[05:59] <Twerk^> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sda")
[05:59] <TIMREICHH> can somebody tell me why i am getting this error? Fatal error: require_once Failed opening required 'MDB2/Driver/mysql.php'
[05:59] <sysdoc> pangloss, rpm alien'd it then installed
[05:59] <punktalk> limecat: yes, from their website. should i be doing something else?
[05:59] <jim_p> TIMREICHH: where does it occur?
[05:59] <sysdoc> pangloss, it is installed
[05:59] <limecat> yes, lol, and if you want to do it that way theres a little more trickery to it
[05:59] <nickrud> TIMREICHH, some php file is trying to open that file, and can't find it
[05:59] <csilk> TIMREICHH, looks to me as if mysql.php can't be found
[05:59] <TIMREICHH> when I tried to install avantfax
[06:00] <jim_p> Twerk^: is there a chance the drive WAS on raid with some other drive?
[06:00] <limecat> A) youd have to run it as super user (sudo), b, youd have to chmod it to be executable, and C) youd probably wanna do it from a full screen terminal
[06:00] <sysdoc> pangloss, just no launchers as the tut expected I would have
[06:00] <tech0007> nickrud: ryt
[06:00] <ghang> when I run my JACK it always pop out a error msg , I am using UBUNTUSTUDIO, why the JACK will pop up an error
[06:00] <JewsusGeist> i drink coffie like water
[06:00] <punktalk> limecat u talking to me?
[06:00] <Twerk^> jim_p: not a chance it was pulled from an apple.
[06:00] <tech0007> nickrud: is archive mounter the same as file-roller?
[06:00] <JewsusGeist> lol
[06:00] <pangloss> sysdoc: yea but you probably dont have the path to the commands for it to run in your $PATH
[06:00] <limecat> the easy way: system-->administration-->hardware drivers
[06:00] <TIMREICHH> and i just setup this server today
[06:00] <limecat> punktalk: yes :)
[06:00] <pangloss> sysdoc: lemme see if I can find where it installs to
[06:00] <punktalk> lol. ok thanks man
[06:00] <nickrud> tech0007, yes. the archive manager's real name is file-roller
[06:00] <JewsusGeist> u guys talking about linux
[06:00] <punktalk> aaahhhh oh i see thanks limecat
[06:01] <limecat> this way is much better :)
[06:01] <sysdoc> pangloss, that could be true but... /Desktop/vmware$ vmware
[06:01] <sysdoc> Failed to launch VMware Web Access: unable to determine HTTPS port.
[06:01] <RAdams> nickrud: you don't happen to know the command-line way of telling gnome to save your session and gracefully restart itself (just gnome), do you?
[06:01] <TIMREICHH> and I got mysql setup and phpmyadmin
[06:01] <tech0007> nickrud: ok, coz i thought i saw archive mounter AND archive manager when i right click
[06:01] <sysdoc> pangloss, acts like it is there
[06:01] <jim_p> Twerk^: is it connected straight to the mobo?
[06:01] <Twerk^> jim_p: it partitions ok, i got gpg to boot from the mbr i even got debian to boot with lilo but got a kernel panic.  i tried the ubuntu live disc to fix my debian install and said "screw it i'll use ubuntu.. if the live disc boots what problem could i have??"
[06:01] <sysdoc> pangloss, vmware-cmd does not run however
[06:01] <pangloss> sysdoc: the command to statr it is vmware-cmd, it isnt in there?
[06:01] <Twerk^> jim_p: yes.
[06:01] <nickrud> RAdams, no I don't. gnome-session-save saves the session, but logging out I don't know
[06:02] <Twerk^> rem1500:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 04)
[06:02] <punktalk> oh wait! limecat i just remebered! im pretty sure ive done this before and it totally messed me up, restart led to "low graphics mode" and everything was messed up.
[06:02] <TIMREICHH> so what would be the best way to fix my problem
[06:02] <limecat> punktalk: that wont happen in 8.10
[06:02] <limecat> probably
[06:02] <punktalk> limecat: alright, thanks so much man
[06:02] <jim_p> Twerk^: is it like... encrypted?!?! the whole drive?
[06:02] <TiMiDo> punktalk: reconfigure xorg
[06:02] <nickrud> tech0007, to be brutally honest, I'm making an educated guess that file-roller provides the mounter
[06:03] <Twerk^> jim_p: i would have to encrypt it no?  i have not done such a thing
[06:03] <jim_p> Twerk^: because you mention some gpg key
[06:03] <junior6054> what are so of the best apps for ubuntu
[06:03] <junior6054> ??
[06:03] <Twerk^> gpg key??
[06:03] <Twerk^> did I?
[06:03] <RAdams> nickrud: theoretically, what would happen if I gnome-session-save && killall Xorg?
[06:03] <TiMiDo> junior6054: well depends on what are you looking for
[06:03] <junior6054> what are some of the best apps for ubuntu??
[06:03] <RAdams> !best | junior6054
[06:03] <jim_p> junior6054: audacious, mplayer
[06:03] <nickrud> RAdams, I would expect that when you logged back in, the gnome-session aware apps would restart.
[06:03] <Twerk^> i love !best.
[06:03] <jim_p> junior6054: perfect apps for their jobs
[06:03] <TiMiDo> gnome,firefox,screen,
[06:03] <punktalk> hope to see u all soon.......
[06:04] <sysdoc> pangloss, man vmware brings up the man pages for it however vmware-cmd is not one of the commands. And no, it does not start
[06:04] <Twerk^> jim_p: where do you see mention to GPG?
[06:04] <jim_p> Twerk^: ..... i got gpg to boot from the mbr i even got debian to boot with lilo but got a kernel panic.  i tried the ubuntu live disc to fix my debian install and said "screw it i'll use ubuntu.. if the live disc boots wha..........
[06:04] <limecat> punktalk: if you have your heart set on the hard ways, you can do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[06:04] <RAdams> nickrud: hmm, that might be enough. I'm trying to write a script so I can hot dock this laptop
[06:04] <Twerk^> ah
[06:04] <nickrud> RAdams, used to work that way, back when gnome kept crashing in the 1.99 days ;)
[06:04] <Twerk^> no rather
[06:04] <Twerk^> GAG
[06:04] <Twerk^> typo
[06:04] <jim_p> Twerk^: sorry then
[06:04] <pangloss> sysdoc: sorry then, im tapped. =/
[06:04] <ronhalfdanr> hi folks
[06:04] <Twerk^> hi ronhalfdanr
[06:04] <nickrud> RAdams, I was anal about saving data and apps then, since it crashed several times a day
[06:04] <pangloss> !hi | ronhalfdanr
[06:04] <RAdams> nickrud: am I a masochist for missing the old days, when everything pretty crashed constantly and we all stayed up until 4 am furiously applying piles of patches?
[06:04] <ronhalfdanr> can anyone tell me where the wine and crossover wine folders are located?
[06:05] <nickrud> RAdams, a pox on you !!!
[06:05] <junior6054> how to change gnome to kubuntu with wubi
[06:05] <Twerk^> jim_p: any suggestions?
[06:05] <junior6054> ?
[06:05] <junior6054> any links
[06:05] <jim_p> twerk741_: give me some time
[06:05] <RAdams> ronhalfdanr: ~/.wine
[06:05] <junior6054> how to change gnome to kubuntu with wubi
[06:05] <Twerk^> indeed.
[06:05] <junior6054> any links
[06:05] <ronhalfdanr> RA, but WHERE is that?
[06:05] <Twerk^> moving to the couch then :P
[06:05] <pangloss> ronhalfdanr: is it in ~/.wine
[06:05] <limecat> ronhalfdanr: if you want to browse it, press ctrl+h in a file browser
[06:05] <RAdams> ronhalfdanr: ~ means your home directory
[06:05] <nickrud> junior6054, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <limecat> any filename beginning with a dot is invisible unless you enable hidden folders/files
[06:06] <ss23> So, I installed ubuntu, all good, then I installed windows like a few months later, and its written over the boot loader for ubuntu (or so I'm assuming), can I use the ubuntu disk to sort of 'repair' my old instalation and keep this windows one?
[06:06] <RAdams> ronhalfdanr: so ~ for me is /home/radams
[06:06] <ronhalfdanr> ok, thanks I needed to know ~ means home
[06:06] <nickrud> !grub | ss23
[06:06] <pangloss> !sarcasm
[06:06] <limecat> lol
[06:06] <sysdoc> pangloss, thx anyways
[06:06] <junior6054> thanks
[06:06] <junior6054> nickrud!
[06:06] <ss23> Thanks nickrud :)
[06:06] <Twerk^> hello from the couch
[06:07] <ronhalfdanr> of course that brings up the bug..............if I try to access my home folder the file browser goes grey and one of my cores runs at 100%
[06:07] <RAdams> ronhalfdanr: something else you will soon encounter: "." (no quotes) means the current directory, ".." (no quotes) means the directory up. so ../.. is two directories up :)
[06:07] <junior6054> can i run gnome and kubuntu side by side
[06:07] <RAdams> ronhalfdanr: what is your kernel version?
[06:07] <junior6054> ?
[06:07] <RAdams> junior6054: yes
[06:07] <limecat> ronhalfdanr: open a terminal and do "top" while this is occuring--that will tell you what is causing the spike
[06:07] <riz0n> Hello I just completed installation of a triple boot system... Windows XP, Vista and Ubuntu, however, when i try to use EasyBCD to add Ubuntu to the Windows boot laoder I get errors when I try to select my Ubuntu installation, can someone point me in the right direction to regaining access to Unbuntu through the boot loader? thanks'
[06:07] <pangloss> junior6054: only if you are Dr. Frankenstien
[06:07] <remu> Hey guys, I need help setting up my bluetooth headset with Ubuntu 8.10. Can someone guide me?
[06:08] <ronhalfdanr> 8.1
[06:08] <KDEn00b> i have gnome, how do i isntall the kde4 version of kubuntu?
[06:08] <SeaOfTea> I don't like xchat, brb
[06:08] <pangloss> !grub | riz0n
[06:08] <RAdams> riz0n: unless you like slowly losing your mind, I recommend GRUB
[06:08] <remu> KDEn00b, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <jim_p> Twerk^: let me think
[06:08] <Twerk^> RAdams: beat me to the paste
[06:09] <KDEn00b> remu, that installs the kde 3.5 edition for me
[06:09] <junior6054> one last question what is a better desktop to use gnome or k?
[06:09] <pangloss> junior6054: XFCE is best
[06:09] <remu> KDEn00b, oh, your not on intrepid eh.
[06:09] <RAdams> !best | junior6054
[06:09] <jim_p> remu: does bluetooth work there?
[06:09] <Twerk^> better is a bad question junior6054
[06:09] <nickrud> junior6054, install both, try one for a week, then the other. And xfce , although only masochists stick with it ;)
[06:09] <remu> jim_p, where?
[06:09] <RAdams> nickrud: just set the bot to spam !better every ten minutes, kthx
[06:10] <KDEn00b> remu, i just upgraded to intrepid about an hour ago, does 8.10 kubuntu have kde4?
[06:10] <ronhalfdanr> now what am I supposed to look for in "top"?
[06:10] <remu> yes it does
[06:10] <jim_p> remu: the bleutooth "thing" on the pc or laptop
[06:10] <nickrud> RAdams, ;)
[06:10] <remu> in intrepid it is sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <junior6054> sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop  is this the command line???
[06:10] <limecat> ronhalfdanr: top lists processes in use, by how much CPU they use
[06:10] <RAdams> ronhalfdanr: top will tell you what the top processes are in terms of resource usage. open your file browser and watch top
[06:10] <jim_p> remu: does the pc find the hearset?
[06:10] <nickrud> junior6054, xubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <_MattB> is it possible to boot from a USB thumbdrive if you used a ext3 partition only?
[06:10] <remu> jim_p, well, it connects under vista, it was finding the headset in ubuntu before
[06:10] <Pandan> hey
[06:11] <RAdams> _MattB: yes
[06:11] <junior6054> Thanks nickrud!!1 u the man
[06:11] <nickrud> remu, apt-get is still recommended over aptitude last I heard
[06:11] <jim_p> remu: is it a laptop? kill network manager
[06:11] <limecat> command=the process name
[06:11] <ronhalfdanr> root xorg is top
[06:11] <Pandan> hey, can some one look at this
[06:11] <Pandan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:11] <vaxetihirr> hello open sourcers ! ! !
[06:11] <riz0n> RAdams: the last time i set up a configuration like I have now, I had to use EasyBCD to add the grub bootloader to the vista boot menu.. from what i understand you have to have the vista boot manager in order to boot to vista.. correct me if im wrong
[06:11] <remu> jim_p, then i tried following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio for the sco, now it doesnt detect it
[06:11] <Pandan> can someone look at this please? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:11] <pangloss> !hi | vaxetihirr
[06:11] <_MattB> RAdams, any ideas on how I can get this thing to boot? I just installed directly to the thumbdrive and it says "invalid or corrupt boot partition"
[06:11] <remu> jim_p, yes it is a laptop
[06:12] <Pandan> can some help me, i have the topic here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:12] <vaxetihirr> god i love linuxappfinder.com
[06:12] <Pandan> can some help me, i have the topic here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:12] <RAdams> riz0n: I don't believe so, but I don't have vista, so I won't swear to that
[06:12] <limecat> ronhalfdanr: i probably wont be able to help you much with this (especially since its time for bed), but thats somethin to go on....
[06:12] <pangloss> !repeat | Pandan
[06:12] <Pandan> i did,
[06:12] <ronhalfdanr> sometimes pidgin is the highest but root xorg is normally higher
[06:12] <Pandan> for two weeks
[06:12] <remu> nickrud, I was under the impression that aptitude was best used for installing kubuntu-desktop and stuff, and that it was better at removing it in the future if the need to do so arose
[06:12] <RAdams> _MattB: how did you make it?
[06:12] <jim_p> remu: then stop and remove network manager piece of junk software and bluetooth will work again. in its position install wicd. tell me if you need help
[06:12] <Pandan> so could some one look at my thread?
[06:13] <remu> jim_p, i do need help
[06:13] <riz0n> thanks.. i just dont want to screw things up any worse than things already are..
[06:13] <_MattB> well, i have 2 thumbdrives, i booted off one using syslinux to install to the other
[06:13] <ronhalfdanr> thanks anyway limecat
[06:13] <Pandan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:13] <limecat> yea, sorry :(
[06:13] <_MattB> and i just partitioned the whole thing as one big root and installed
[06:13] <nickrud> apt-get now has autoremove. aptitude can only remove stuff it installs, autoremove can handle either
[06:13] <remu> jim_p, but as of right now, it is not detecting bluetooth, it was before i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[06:13] <erikg> how do i change the repeat settings on keys in intrepid?  i used to be able to use xset r but now it is ineffectual.
[06:13] <_MattB> this is 8.10 server btw
[06:13] <q0r3> hey all.  when i installed 8.10 on the release day, the restricted drivers manager was acting funny (the window was twice as wide as it should have been, and some of the entries were repeated". i have an nvidia go 7600, and i decided to go with the binary drivers from nvidia's website.  they haven't been working properly, so i uninstalled them, and i'd like to install them the 'correct' way, according to ubuntu.  but they're not in the restricted d
[06:13] <Pandan> can i speak one on one with someone? i need some help
[06:13] <remu> nickrud, oh, well, good to know then
[06:13] <RAdams> riz0n: just so you know, the vista install cd has an option to boot to recovery console. from there you can execute fixmbr to restore vista booting if something awful happens
[06:14] <limecat> Pandan: whats up?
[06:14] <remu> Pandan, just ask your question, if someone knows the answer they will help you.
[06:14]  * nickrud whispers to remu that he uses aptitude exclusively
[06:14] <jim_p> remu: its because of the network manager getting involved, trust me. too bad i dont have a log of a convo with another guy about the same subject to show you
[06:14] <Pandan> lime cat, can you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:14] <Ximal> are there any wikipedia programs out there ... kindof like there are phpbb programs ?
[06:14] <donomo> what can i check when sound playback stops? its not volume - youtube videos freeze after the first second
[06:14] <ronhalfdanr> what sucks is I need to drop some dll's off install discs to try and get some apps running in wine or crossover
[06:14] <RAdams> Ximal: mediawiki
[06:14] <Twerk^> does anyone know where i can get some good server stylee grub support??
[06:14] <remu> jim_p, well, i dont mind trying your suggestion, I just don't know the proper way of going about it.
[06:14] <Ximal> url ?
[06:14] <ronhalfdanr> and if wine is in my home folder I can;t get to it with the browser freeze
[06:15] <jim_p> remu: are you on wireless now?
[06:15] <Ximal> nm radams.. found it
[06:15] <RAdams> _MattB: long story short, that won't work. I'm too tired to explain further, but someone with more gusto can explain the proper procedure to you
[06:15] <Ximal> tyvm radams
[06:15] <nickrud> Ximal, sure, such as python-moinmoin
[06:15] <remu> jim_p, network manager has my auto eth0 and wlan0 both connected
[06:15] <remu> so i guess im on both
[06:15] <Pandan> limecat, i sent you a personal message
[06:15] <jim_p> remu: ...and bluetooth "stuck" too
[06:15] <RAdams> good night all.
[06:15] <jim_p> gn
[06:15] <RAdams> !goodnight, sweet robot
[06:16] <_MattB> gn, thx
[06:16] <RAdams> nuts to you then
[06:16] <remu> jim_p, what do you mean by "stuck"?
[06:16] <jim_p> remu: not working
[06:16] <Pandan> im having a error, can someone help me?
[06:16] <Pandan> here is the link
[06:16] <Pandan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973757
[06:16] <remu> jim_p, its not doing what i want it to do...so yes?
[06:16] <_MattB> the "make a usb startup disk" think that is in desktop, what is a command line equivalent for that?
[06:16] <jim_p> remu: yes!
[06:16] <hotcat> why does not my  Mobile hard disk connect with my pc?
[06:17] <limecat> hotcat: do you use it in windows?
[06:17] <remu> jim_p, so, can you guide me on how to fix it?
[06:17] <ronhalfdanr> pandan, force a windows reboot in wine
[06:17] <jim_p> remu: can i pm you?
[06:17] <remu> jim_p, please do
[06:17] <jim_p> ok
[06:17] <hotcat> no,in Ubuntu8.04 .it's ntfs.
[06:18] <limecat> do you unmount it before removing it every time?  does the disk ever get plugged into a windows system?
[06:18] <limecat> its probably been dismounted incorrectly, but if it gets mounted properly once it will stop having the issue
[06:18] <TABASCO> Hi
[06:18] <ronhalfdanr> hotcat, is it an external standalone drive
[06:18] <ronhalfdanr> ?
[06:19] <TABASCO> After an upgrade on Intrepid the touchpad scrolling on my Dell Inspiron 1525 doesn't work any more - anyone an idea how to fix that (the options for scrolling are activated)
[06:19] <hotcat> it's the first time in this pc,which is upgrade to Ubuntu8.04
[06:20] <thomasite> How do I (later) uninstall completely Picasa? Thanks!
[06:20] <limecat> hotcat-- can you open a terminal and run this command: ls /dev/sd*
[06:20] <hotcat> yes
[06:20] <limecat> you may see some things listed as sda, some as sdb, some as sdc?
[06:20] <ronhalfdanr> ok, external drives need special handling no matter what OS............you have to tell the OS to ignore the drive...............in windows you used the USB manager to turn off the USB device, in bununtu you use the "unmount" command...........otherwise the drive doesn;t shut down right
[06:21] <erikg> how do i change the repeat settings on keys in intrepid?  i used to be able to use xset r but now it is ineffectual.
[06:22] <limecat> hotcat, are you there
[06:22] <leohartx> is anybody here know which is fastest way to install AWN ?
[06:22] <hotcat> os can't find the device,but i can see it, while i can't mount it
[06:23] <hotcat> ye
[06:23] <limecat> hotcat: do you know the device name?
[06:23] <limecat> is it sda, or sdb, or sdc?
[06:23] <hotcat> no
[06:23] <hotcat> sda
[06:23] <thomasite> Hello. How do I uninstall Picasa? I installed it using debian installer. Thanks!
[06:23] <BoltClock> leohartx: sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[06:23] <limecat> sudo mkdir /media/tempusb
[06:23] <limecat> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/tempusb -o force
[06:23] <brownmaster> ??? whats this error mean"Hunk #2 FAILED at 861."
[06:23] <limecat> then just do a sudo umount /dev/sda1, and you'll be all set
[06:24] <hotcat> i try
[06:24] <hotcat> thx
[06:24] <limecat> in the future
[06:24] <BoltClock> how do i install gimp 2.6 under ubuntu hardy?
[06:24] <limecat> you need to rightclick the drive, and do an unmount before removing it, otherwise this will happen again
[06:24] <leohartx> boltclock, thank you
[06:25] <BoltClock> leohartx: youre welcome
[06:25] <hotcat> oh, i remember that
[06:25] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting
[06:25] <limecat> gnight
[06:26] <brownmaster> ????
[06:27] <hotcat> hotcat@hotcat-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force
[06:27] <hotcat> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[06:27] <hotcat>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[06:27] <hotcat> what is wrong?
[06:27] <fsanchezcv> Hello
[06:27] <reydempto> can anyone help me? i am new to this and want to set up 2 monitors on seperate video cards on Ubuntu 8.10...
[06:28] <Ximal> what's -o supposed to be doing for u hotcat ?
[06:28] <fsanchezcv> I need some help too regarding disc partitions
[06:28] <fenerli7> fsanchezcv: what's the problem?
[06:28] <fenerli7> reydempto: nvidia?
[06:28] <vaxetihirr> hotcat, are you haviong trouble mounting an external usb hard drive?
[06:28] <reydempto> ATI :(
[06:29] <reydempto> ati radeon x1300
[06:29] <hotcat> yes
[06:29] <hotcat> i can mount it
[06:29] <vaxetihirr> ok lol
[06:29] <vaxetihirr> did you use it in a windows pc before?
[06:29] <xiangfu> RAdams: HI i just reinstall pulseaudio , and reboot , now it's work , thanks
[06:30] <hotcat> sorry, i must leave a moment. later to see you
[06:30] <Ximal> lol
[06:30] <reydempto> lol
[06:30] <brownmaster> anybody know anything about patching
[06:30] <brownmaster> ????
[06:30] <vaxetihirr> patching what exactly?
[06:31] <fenerli7> brownmaster: do you want to know how to apply patch files?
[06:31] <brownmaster> the compat wireless drivers
[06:31] <hotcat> yes,but i can't write anything,and now i can mount it ,after i update my os
[06:31] <reydempto> lol
[06:31] <fenerli7> reydempto: not too sure how it's done with ATI so I can't help much more than a google search would :(
[06:31] <reydempto> alrighty then
[06:31] <hotcat> later to see you
[06:31] <vaxetihirr> which version of ubuntu?
[06:31] <BoltClock> how do i install gimp 2.6 under ubuntu hardy?
[06:31] <hotcat> 80.4
[06:31] <reydempto> 8.10
[06:32] <hotcat> 8.04
[06:32] <brownmaster> 8.10
[06:32] <vaxetihirr> did you remove the drive safely from the windows pc?
[06:32] <jim_p> BoltClock: you cant, you have to move to 8.10
[06:32] <bubble> can somebody help me install virtualbox?
[06:32] <bubble> http://www.pastebin.ca/1247603
[06:32] <hotcat> never
[06:32] <jim_p> bubble: me!
[06:32] <Kira[work]> How do I find files that are NOT owned by a certain user or group?
[06:32] <vaxetihirr> reinsert it and then remove it safely in the system tray
[06:32] <vaxetihirr> it might work
[06:33] <fsanchezcv> I need some help on getting windows out of the computer
[06:33] <vaxetihirr> windows marks it for use
[06:33] <fenerli7> BoltClock: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gimp-261-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[06:33] <vaxetihirr> annoyingly
[06:33] <jim_p> bubble: why dont you use the vbox repo?
[06:33] <hotcat> thx
[06:33] <vaxetihirr> np
[06:33] <brownmaster> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]  it the error
[06:33] <bubble> i apt-cache searched and didnt see anything
[06:33] <bubble> :(
[06:33] <Kira[work]> (nvm)
[06:34] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting
[06:34] <bubble> jim_p, can i pm you please?
[06:34] <jim_p> bubble: sure
[06:34] <bubble> :D
[06:34] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Hi, is there a good media center application for Ubuntu like in Windows? I was looking at XBMC but it does not support TV
[06:35] <ziroday> TheDeepFriedBoo: take a look at mythtv
[06:35] <djhash> scripts started in init.d at boot time.. are started by what user?
[06:35] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Can I run it out of ubuntu though or does it run its own system that I have to install?
[06:36] <ziroday> TheDeepFriedBoo: you can run it on ubuntu, you might also want to take a look at mythbuntu which comes with it preinstalled
[06:36] <Waffles> I'm looking for a new laptop and I know generally the parts I want, who is a good retailer for notebooks that run well with Ubuntu?
[06:36] <TheDeepFriedBoo> I have tried it before a while ago, I really did not like it too much
[06:36] <vaxetihirr> what country you in waffles?
[06:36] <Waffles> vaxetihirr, USA
[06:37] <ziroday> Waffles: erm Dell, System76, Zamroo? sell ubuntu preinstalled computers
[06:37] <vaxetihirr> ah
[06:37] <vaxetihirr> im fom uk
[06:37] <vaxetihirr> avoid sony
[06:37] <TheDeepFriedBoo> I am attempting LinuxMCE but it wont boot off the CD so something might be wrong with the ISO
[06:37] <vaxetihirr> some of the circuitry behind their screens is dodgy
[06:37] <Waffles> vaxetihirr, Alright, I was shying away from them based on how much they are for what you get
[06:37] <ziroday> Waffles: you might also want to ask in your loco as they will know local ubuntu preinstalled computers
[06:37] <rbarlow> i'm using firefox 3.0 on intrepid. firefox opens maximized, sans title bar, and i'm unable to resize the app to anything other than completely hogging the screen. alt + space ['r','x'] for resizing, unmaximizing etc. don't help whatsoever. any ideas ?
[06:37] <vaxetihirr> last year they had a worldwode recall of 400 000 laptops
[06:37] <angloman> hey, i installed ubuntu 8.10 and it won't list windows xp from the boot menu... how do I get it back?
[06:38] <ziroday> TheDeepFriedBoo: sorry, we don't support LinuxMCE here
[06:38] <vaxetihirr> and avoid acer as well
[06:38] <vaxetihirr> they have serious boot problems
[06:38] <Waffles> ziroday, preinstalled isn't that big of a deal, but compatable parts like chipsets and what not are more of what I am wondering about. I know it depends on what they use, but lots of places don't mention what they put inside and the help isnt much of help.
[06:38] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Ziroday: No Problem, if MCE does not work ill try Myth
[06:38] <brandon_> angloman, did you install it on the entire hard drive?
[06:38] <redfish> rbarlow, F11?
[06:38] <ronhalfdanr> you can find out what chips are in HP laptops usually
[06:38] <Waffles> vaxetihirr: Heard much about Asus?
[06:39] <vaxetihirr> you seen any particular make model you like?
[06:39] <rbarlow> redfish, F11 doesn't appear to be the answer either
[06:39] <angloman> brandon - windows xp was at /dev/sda5, i installed linux on /dev/sda6
[06:39] <fsanchezcv> Can I get some help from someone??
[06:39] <ziroday> Waffles: the best thing you can do is google the laptops name with ubuntu appended or even better if the local computer store allows it bring in a livecd and try it out
[06:39] <vaxetihirr> asus make excellent mobos
[06:39] <vaxetihirr> for dtops
[06:39] <vaxetihirr> generally
[06:39] <angloman> i can still access my windows partition but I can't boot it
[06:39] <vaxetihirr> ive heard good things about their laptops
[06:39] <Kira[work]> hmm, "ls -aRl *.php" isn't doing what I thought it would do.
[06:39] <brandon_> angloman, Then check your bios to see what drives your computer is trying to boot from?
[06:39] <angloman> brandon_: it's all on the same drive
[06:40] <vaxetihirr> but theyve only introduced them in the uk in the past 12 months
[06:40] <angloman> brandon_: same drive, different partitions
[06:40] <ziroday> angloman: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst and sudo fdisk -l please
[06:40] <brandon_> angloman: Weird. I've never had any problems with multiple partitions
[06:40] <riz0n> i am having multiple partitions too
[06:40] <Waffles> vaxetihirr: Yeah they have a few nice looking notebooks, and based off their mobos I assume they're not bad. I'm looking for atleast a P8400, Intel 5300 wireless or atheros wireless, and a discrete nvidia card
[06:41] <angloman> ziroday: you want me to post it in the channel
[06:41] <riz0n> i installed ubuntu first then vista, and read that i could use EasyBCD to "simply" add ubuntu to the loader, but i am lost.. hopefully someone can lead me in the right direction to getting my system to booting properly
[06:41] <ziroday> angloman: no in pastebin please
[06:41] <ziroday> !pastebin | angloman
[06:41] <ardchoille> !nvidia > me
[06:41] <ubuntu_> does ubuntu support hard drive encryption?
[06:41] <vaxetihirr> to be perfectly honest with you waffles i think if you go for a mid spec laptop youll make your life easier
[06:41] <ziroday> !grub | riz0n you want the first link
[06:41] <Waffles> ziroday: good idea with googling the name and ubuntu, I was trying to figure out the parts and making it more difficult
[06:41] <ubuntu_> does ubuntu 8.10 support hard drive encryption?
[06:41] <Ximal> anyone here use FlaskMpeg ?
[06:41] <novato_br> !pendrive
[06:42] <ziroday> ubuntu_: yes, but only throught the livecd
[06:42] <novato_br> !ubuntu from pendrive
[06:42] <Waffles> vaxetihirr: yeah thats what I'm coming around too, I just don't want to give up searching yet.
[06:42] <vaxetihirr> proprietary drivers for chipsets and graphics cards are a pain in ubuntu
[06:42] <novato_br> how to install ubuntu on pendrive ?
[06:42] <ziroday> Waffles: usually wireless cars, graphics cards, webcams, and suspend/resume are the biggest culprits
[06:42] <riz0n> well the thing is i dont want to have grub as my primary boot loader, i want windows boot manager to come up and then have ubuntu as a selectable option, which can then load grub
[06:42] <pyrohotdog> How can I launch a screensaver on just one display?
[06:42] <ubuntu_> does ubuntu 8.10 support hard drive encryption? i cant seem to find the option for it? im on live cd now
[06:42] <BoltClock> !usb > novato_br
[06:42] <Kira[work]> How shall I list all *.php files recursively (with ownership and file permission)?
[06:42] <okthisshouldbeit> ok, i want to try IceWM, bu ti want to have all my menus in the  "start" bar, is this possible?
[06:42] <Ximal> novato_br .. habla espanol ?
[06:42] <ziroday> ubuntu_: its only on the alternate cd
[06:43] <EruditeHermit> hey, with the new pulseaudio, I no longer get options to set the microphone recording level in alsamixer. Is there another way to do this?
[06:43] <ubuntu_> ok
[06:43] <ubuntu_> thnx
[06:43] <vaxetihirr> i didnt think you needed to encrypt hard drive in ubuntu
[06:43] <angloman> ziroday: okay i pastebin'd http://paste.ubuntu.com/68727/
[06:43] <ziroday> angloman: great, moment please :)
[06:43] <vaxetihirr> its impossible to get in if you dont know the password
[06:43] <ronhalfdanr> I forgot one question..................I've read VMware has a free version..............what's it called?
[06:43] <novato_br> un pouco, Ximal
[06:43] <Waffles> ziroday, vaxetihirr: I've looked into the 5300 and it works with 8.10 out of the box as far as I can tell. Thanks for your help I'll look around a bit.
[06:44] <novato_br> Ximal, cuál es problema?
[06:44] <ziroday> ronhalfdanr: vmware player, however its only free as in free beer, not free as in free speech. virtualbox-ose is free as in free speech
[06:44] <redfish> rbarlow, did you fix it?
[06:45] <NeT_DeMoN> is there a way I can repair Ubuntu without having to go through GDM with a Live CD?
[06:45] <LF|Irssi> ziroday: i dont get the "free beer, free speech" analogy, care to inlighten me?
[06:45] <rbarlow> redfish, still no idea. it's irking me so much that i'm attempting to google for an answer in epiphany
[06:45] <kkathman> what is the approved/suggested way to upgrade to ibex from hardy?
[06:46] <scientes> ronhalfdanr, also ESXi and VMware server are free, but Virtualbox, KVM, and xen are more free and faster
[06:46] <ziroday> LF|Irssi: certaintly, basically it means as in a free object (you don't have to pay for it) and a free source code (one that you can see and edit it)
[06:46] <ziroday> !upgrade | kkathman
[06:46] <hateball> !es | novato_br, Ximal
[06:46] <hateball> Well that worked well
[06:46] <vaxetihirr> ronhalfdanr, google "linux app finder"
[06:46] <vaxetihirr> you can get it on there i think
[06:46] <Ximal> hateball i speak english i was just trying to help findhis language ...
[06:46] <Ximal> then send him to proper help channel
[06:46] <ronhalfdanr> thanks vaxe
[06:46] <vaxetihirr> ;-)
[06:46] <kkathman> thank you ziroday
[06:46] <ziroday> angloman: you still there?
[06:46] <hateball> vaxetihirr♂ Encryption is for physical access protection
[06:46] <hateball> Ximal♂ ah alright :)
[06:47] <redfish> try starting firefox in safemode?
[06:47] <vaxetihirr> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/vmwareplayer
[06:47] <Ximal> habla mui pikito espanol
[06:47] <novato_br> hateball,  don't worry! I little bit speak in English
[06:47] <novato_br> poco, Ximal ?
[06:48] <darkbishop> but most of us talk in english.
[06:48] <ziroday> novato_br: this an english speaking channel only. please keep to it
[06:48] <novato_br> ok ok, ziroday
[06:48] <novato_br> you still will be dead by the rules
[06:48] <angloman> ziroday: yea
[06:48] <Ximal> si si novato_br entre #ubuntu-es ... bien ?
[06:48] <angloman> ziroday: any luck with it?
[06:49] <ziroday> angloman: great, can you add these lines to the bottom of your /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:49] <novato_br> I'd like that my changing saves from install usbsticks?
[06:49] <ziroday> angloman: sorry /menu.lst
[06:49] <Ximal> poco si ... little
[06:49] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Hi, does MythTV support Hauppauge Expresscard tuners? I cannot find it on the hardware list which worries me
[06:50] <solid> hi , i installed generic kernel version of ubuntu onto my core2duo processored machine
[06:50] <solid> Can i upgrade kernel to  64bit version ?
[06:50] <vaxetihirr> that ll run fast
[06:50] <solid> Would it be any good ?
[06:50] <ziroday> angloman: sorry, add the lines listed here http://paste.ubuntu.com/68732/
[06:50] <angloman> ziroday: add which lines?
[06:50] <angloman> oh
[06:50] <angloman> lol
[06:50] <vaxetihirr> should only put 64 bit version if you have a 64 bit processor surely?
[06:51] <angloman> ziroday: I think I tried that and it said invalid device
[06:51] <ziroday> vaxetihirr: they can but 64bit or 32bit, its your choice
[06:51] <vaxetihirr> really?
[06:51] <vaxetihirr> ah so desu ka?
[06:51] <ziroday> angloman: did you have this line root (hd0,1) the same
[06:51] <darkbishop> hait.. sodesss...
[06:51] <vaxetihirr> ive been warned away from doing that by others
[06:52] <redfish> rbarlow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/270400
[06:52] <vaxetihirr> is there no loss of performance then?
[06:52] <angloman> ziroday: I had root (hd0,0) and it said invalid, so i tried editing it a few times
[06:52] <angloman> i tried hd0,1-7 and none of them worked
[06:52] <ziroday> angloman: I believe it should be either (hd0.1) or (hd0,2) please try it again
[06:52] <TheDeepFriedBoo> vaxetihirr: There is not much of a difference between 32 and 64 bit besides being able to use more than 3GB of RAM
[06:52] <angloman> okay i'll give it a shot
[06:53] <vaxetihirr> well ive generally been able to multitask in ubuntu using 25% of the ram and cpu that was required for vista
[06:53] <ardchoille> There are three or four nvidia drivers, how do I know which one to install?
[06:53] <vaxetihirr> so do you really need it?
[06:53] <darkbishop> TheDeepFriedBoo: wait2... u mean if im using 32 bit... i cant use ram moooore then 3GB?????if i do.. what will happen
[06:54] <ziroday> ardchoille: which card do you have?
[06:54] <vaxetihirr> what kind of insane apps are you running??
[06:54] <TheDeepFriedBoo> vaxetihirr: Unless your running something that needs over 3gb of RAM, dont worry about it, Just install 64bit next time you do a full reinstall
[06:54] <ziroday> ardchoille: and have you tried the program in System > Administrator > Hardware Drivers?
[06:54] <ardchoille> ziroday:  nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200]
[06:54] <ardchoille> ziroday: yes, I tried the restricted drives manager but that causes my tty's to remain black
[06:54] <TheDeepFriedBoo> darkbishop: If you have 32 bit, then the system wont see more than 3gb, thats all
[06:55] <ziroday> ardchoille: okay, gimme a sec
[06:55] <vaxetihirr> thedeepfriedboo: okies actually i might try it anyway just for my own personal amusement
[06:55] <TheDeepFriedBoo> vaxetihirr: Go ahead
[06:55] <ardchoille> ziroday: amd I correct in assuming I need  nvidia-glx-96
[06:55] <fsanchezcv> can anyone help me out here,please?
[06:55] <vaxetihirr> not right now though
[06:55] <vaxetihirr> lol
[06:55] <ziroday> ardchoille: not sure, I am checking now for you :)
[06:55] <darkbishop> TheDeepFriedBoo: so if im using 4GB it will only a waste of money?
[06:55] <ardchoille> ziroday: ok, thank you
[06:56] <ronhalfdanr> vaxetihirr: to run just a couple windows apps in VMware do I want player, server or machine manager?
[06:56] <TheDeepFriedBoo> darkbishop: Generally, yes, you can always just eventually upgrade to 64 bit next time you reinstall, dont worry about it though unless you actually need that much ram
[06:56] <vaxetihirr> ok
[06:56] <vaxetihirr> let me just ask my friend
[06:56] <vaxetihirr> lol
[06:57] <ziroday> ardchoille: you should need the 177 one
[06:57] <vaxetihirr> i honestly cant remember
[06:57] <darkbishop> TheDeepFriedBoo: ok thxxx......
[06:57] <vaxetihirr> sorry
[06:57] <vaxetihirr> i just saw it there once recently and thought ah ha i will install it one day . . . . .
[06:57] <ziroday> fsanchezcv: what is your question?
[06:57] <ardchoille> ziroday: oh, I didn't think my card was new enough to need that one
[06:58] <ziroday> ardchoille: according to nvidia.com it is :)
[06:58] <fsanchezcv> i want to remove my windows partition
[06:58] <ronhalfdanr> thanks anyway
[06:58] <ardchoille> ziroday: thank you very much :)
[06:58] <fsanchezcv> and just keep ubuntu on all of my hd
[06:58] <ziroday> ardchoille: have fun
[06:58] <ronhalfdanr> anyone know what VMware I want to just run a couple apps?
[06:58] <vaxetihirr> you can use the live cd to remove all partitions
[06:58] <darkbishop> fsanchezcy: use fdisk
[06:58] <vaxetihirr> i did it on my pc
[06:58] <vaxetihirr> without using fdisk
[06:58] <butter_> hai all
[06:58] <ziroday> ronhalfdanr: probably vmware player, however you should consider using virtualbox-ose as its opensource
[06:59] <fsanchezcv> will that erase the windows partition, and merge in into my ubuntu partition without erasing my ubuntu config?
[06:59] <darkbishop> oh there another one.... qpartiton i think... so something like tat.
[06:59] <vaxetihirr> to be safe just back your data up first
[06:59] <TiMiDo> you mean darkbishop qtparted
[06:59] <TiMiDo> ?
[06:59] <ronhalfdanr> virtualbox is a non-starter ziroday since it's RAM dependant and I'm looking at files between 150 and 600 MB
[06:59] <vaxetihirr> but it listed all of the partitions on my hard drive
[06:59] <Ramrunner> Anybody here know a bit about why dovecot would not accept my Outlook clients imap connections any more after upgrading to 8.10?
[06:59] <vaxetihirr> and i did delete them one at a time
[07:00] <darkbishop> fsanchezcv: the correct way will be... deleting you windows partition and resaiz ur linux partition.
[07:00] <fsanchezcv> thanks everyone
[07:00] <fsanchezcv> thanks
[07:00] <element> sup dudes
[07:00] <ronhalfdanr> that's data files to manipulate at 150-600 MB
[07:00] <element> anyone here has the 8.10 ?
[07:00] <Ramrunner> I do
[07:00] <ziroday> element: a few of us, why?
[07:00] <TiMiDo> element: we almost all do.
[07:00] <element> why my wireless led is always blinking??
[07:00] <rbarlow> redfish, i'm going to try 3.1b2pre and see what happens....
[07:00] <ziroday> ronhalfdanr: then vmware player :)
[07:00] <vaxetihirr> its the LTS one innit
[07:00] <Viktoras> Several questions: 1. Is anyone else experiencing problem with Ibex Interpid, that kernel is not loading when you try to install it? 2. Is anyone else having problems with Interpid, as CD drive is not found anymore?
[07:00] <ronhalfdanr> thanks ziroday
[07:00] <Guest52746> i will go crazy...
[07:00] <ziroday> vaxetihirr: no.
[07:01] <vaxetihirr> its been a long night
[07:01] <redfish> cool.  looks like other people in that link had the same problem as you.
[07:01] <DragoraN> hi all
[07:01] <vaxetihirr> 8.04
[07:01] <vaxetihirr> grrrrr
[07:01] <redfish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/270400
[07:01] <xiangfu> element: what is you wireless card , a PCMCI card or in board
[07:01] <rbarlow> ya, but their solution doesn't appear to work for me
[07:01] <rbarlow> thanks for the tip tho'
[07:01] <redfish> sucks
[07:01] <vaxetihirr> http://www.wake-up-vaxetihirr.com/
[07:01] <ardchoille> Guest52746: I just installed 8.10 today and am impressed :)
[07:02] <enzotib> element, sorry, no one
[07:02] <Guest52746> ok :(
[07:02] <darkbishop> vaxetihirr: did u upgrade or fresh install?
[07:02] <vaxetihirr> no im just a complete plonker
[07:02] <DragoraN> please anyone can help me with my Intel 3945abg wifi? My wifi disappeared from system after waking up from sleep also under linux and windows. Any idea?
[07:02] <vaxetihirr> on occasion]
[07:02] <LoveGuru> Hi, Just Want to know i want to change my console "motd" msg how can i do that?
[07:03] <Jakob_the_Liar> does anyone use urxvt?
[07:03] <darkbishop> wth
[07:03] <darkbishop> lala
[07:03] <ronhalfdanr> DragoraN: did you try power off for a minute then back on for the wireless router?
[07:03] <Ramrunner> can anyone point me in the right direction as to why dovecot does not seem to allow internal net connections with Outlook (imap) anymore? Using evolution on the server itself works fine
[07:03] <Ramrunner> this is after 8.04->8.10 upgrade
[07:03] <Guest52746> Dragnslcr, is your wireless led blinking too?
[07:04] <darkbishop> !dovecot
[07:04] <ziroday> Ramrunner: you might want to also ask in #ubuntu-server
[07:04] <Guest52746> DragoraN, is your wireless led blinking too?
[07:04] <Viktoras> 1. Is anyone else experiencing problem with Ibex Interpid, that kernel is not loading when you try to install it?
[07:04] <Ramrunner> sweet - that's the direction I need - will do
[07:04] <Viktoras> anyone? :f
[07:04] <darkbishop> Viktoras: frest install or upgrade
[07:04] <Viktoras> fresh install
[07:04] <ardchoille> ziroday: hey, I just oticed this. I have not installed nvidia drivers yet and "glxinfo | grep render" says direct "rendering: Yes" is that normal?
[07:05] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Oh, does anyone know the status on that laptop overheating issue in 8.10? Its really annoying me since I have to keep using vista instead since I cannot really have my laptop crashing in class
[07:05] <Viktoras> And same problem occured on 3 different computers I tried to install it on
[07:05] <DragoraN> Guest52746: which one?
[07:05] <ziroday> ardchoille: possibly. your probably using the open source driver which may have support for 3d rendering for your card
[07:05] <DragoraN> Guest52746: on the chassis of the notebook?
[07:05] <baal> what is the name of simple firewall for lnx working in bash, i wont to use apt-get, but i don't remember name, this was something like fwb or vfb, fvb ?
[07:05] <Viktoras> uwf
[07:05] <Guest52746> DragoraN, yep in the notebook chassis
[07:05] <ardchoille> ziroday: ah, ok
[07:05] <Viktoras> or ufw
[07:05] <monzie> Hello
[07:05] <baal> thx
[07:06] <monzie> I had VirtualBox working just fine.. after a kernel upgrade it broke
[07:06] <rbarlow> redfish, installing and running 3.1b2 (most likely some 'other' ff version) worked, i.e. un-maximized.
[07:06] <monzie> Is there anything to be done to fix virtualbox
[07:06] <baal> thx Viktoras
[07:06] <Viktoras> darkbishop: fresh install and same problem on all 3 computers I tried to install it
[07:06] <Viktoras> baal: yw
[07:06] <rbarlow> the added effect is that now 3.0 now starts as expected (unmaximized) afterwards
[07:06] <Omeil> anyone know hows to remove a Satellite M200 HDD
[07:07] <Viktoras> monzie: check for virtualbox kernel modules for your kernel version
[07:07] <monzie> Viktoras: I did that
[07:07] <monzie> seems to be fine
[07:07] <DragoraN> Guest52746: its not blinking, is lit up constantly.. like normally when it is enabled with the wifi button, also wifi button does not do anything after wakeup from sleep, completly disappeares, for example win windows from device manager it vanishes
[07:07] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil: Most laptops should have a cover on the bottom with the HDD symbol
[07:07] <Viktoras> monzie: what error it brings?
[07:07] <redfish> figures ;-)
[07:07] <Jakob_the_Liar> where am i?
[07:07] <Jakob_the_Liar> what server is this
[07:07] <Viktoras> Jakob_the_Liar: in front of your Personal Computer :]
[07:08] <redfish> The Internet
[07:08] <Viktoras> Freenode
[07:08] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil: Just open that cover and the HD should have some screws to release it
[07:08] <ardchoille> ziroday: Thanks for your help, here goes nothing :)
[07:08] <Guest52746> DragoraN, i have a similar problem.... i have an intel wireles card
[07:09] <DragoraN> Guest52746: did you solved it? :(
[07:09] <Guest52746> nop
[07:09] <ronhalfdanr> next silly question for vmware...............do I want the .rpm or .bundle?
[07:09] <Guest52746> DragoraN, nop...but my led is alway blinking im going crazy...
[07:09] <monzie> Viktoras: http://pastebin.ca/1247620 is the VBox error
[07:09] <monzie> Viktoras: i have the corresponding modules package installed
[07:09] <Omeil> TheDeepFriedBoo, when I unscrew a screw where i think the HD is the screw keeps clicking back into place
[07:10] <Omeil> TheDeepFriedBoo, its what it does on most of the screws which is kinda weird
[07:10] <Frogzoo> ronhalfdanr: put it this way - you don't want the rpm
[07:10] <ronhalfdanr> thanks frog
[07:10] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil:The screw most likely will stay in the hole, all it needs to do is release from the threads, the screw has a washer to keep it attached to the cover, just pull open the cover
[07:10] <Frogzoo> ronhalfdanr: last time I installed vmware, it was as a .tgz with an install script, worked fine
[07:11] <ronhalfdanr> might have to dig for that frog
[07:11] <laffi> Hi Anybody out there that can help me with connecting two Ubuntu machines via wireless (router) ?
[07:12] <TheDeepFriedBoo> laffi: Setting up the router or actually connecting them to a working router?
[07:12] <butter_> anybody from malaysia?
[07:13] <Viktoras> monzie: for some reason it seems like your user don't have right rights for accessing those modules
[07:13] <Viktoras> try GKsu virtualbox
[07:13] <laffi> Router is working, I can ping the router from both machines but I can't ping either machine from the other
[07:13] <Viktoras> "gksu virtualbox"
[07:13] <riz0n> what if you hook the two machine's up via crossover cable
[07:14] <TheDeepFriedBoo> laffi: Sounds like it  might be some sort of firewall issue, unfortinatly doing that on linux is not my area of extertise
[07:14] <riz0n> do the machines have static or dhcp from the router
[07:14] <TheDeepFriedBoo> laffi;Sorry
[07:14] <laffi> No firewall, neither on router nor on Ubuntu
[07:14] <Omeil> TheDeepFriedBoo, yup you were right, it click out, although still can't pull the HDD out because of a screw attached to the HDD hitting a plastic peace.
[07:14] <sarixe> hi, i'm running intrepid, and i'm getting occasional kernel panics.  is this a widespread problem?
[07:14] <Frogzoo> laffi: perhaps the netmask on the wifi i/f is wrong?
[07:15] <riz0n> also sometimes some wifi routers will isolate the ports from each other (that incldes wifi as well)
[07:15] <laffi> I've already opened a threat on ubuntuforums but so far no solution
[07:15] <ziroday> sarixe: what wireless card do you have?
[07:15] <sarixe> ziroday : intel something
[07:15] <sarixe> lemme do an lspci
[07:15] <KX> how do I fix my sound
[07:15] <ay^> laffi: did you connect a machine to the router via cable?
[07:15] <Omeil> TheDeepFriedBoo, this is a lil stupid how am i supposed to pull this out lol
[07:15] <KX> I keep getting that it's in use by something, or something about gconf
[07:15] <riz0n> laffi: it sounds more of a networking issue to me
[07:15] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil: the HD should be able to slid out
[07:15] <TiMiDo> sarixe: installed it with ndiswrapper
[07:15] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil: It usually disconnects from the IDE or SATA interface and then comes out
[07:15] <KX> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[07:16] <KX> and whatnot
[07:16] <paul68> laffi: do you have ssh server installed?
[07:16] <TiMiDo> get the .info driver and installed it. via ndiswrapper
[07:16] <KX> I'd really love to get sound working, if anyone could help that'd be wonderful
[07:16] <sarixe> TiMiDo : what?
[07:16] <sarixe> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[07:16] <paul68> laffi: same network name on both pc's
[07:16] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil: So slide it away from the data connector and then out
[07:16] <TiMiDo> sarixe: installed it with ndiswrapper
[07:16] <TiMiDo> =)
[07:16] <TiMiDo> works fine.
[07:16] <sarixe> ok... but what the hell are you talking about?
[07:17] <ay^> sarixe: I think he talks about installing drivers for a network-card
[07:17] <sarixe> oh
[07:17] <ay^> sarixe: windowsdrivers with ndiswrapper
[07:17] <TiMiDo> sarixe: for example you get the driver from windows or the zip. and make sure you have the .inf
[07:17] <ziroday> sarixe: well there goes my idea, file a bug regarding the kernel panics
[07:17] <TiMiDo> and you installed it with ndiswrapper
[07:18] <sarixe> ziroday : come to think of it, i remember reading something about kernel panics and my wifi model
[07:18] <sarixe> and that it's fixed in backports...
[07:18] <ziroday> sarixe: I think thats for the atheros cards
[07:18] <Omeil> TheDeepFriedBoo, Thanks for the help, its my bosses laptop lol want to be extra careful
[07:19] <sarixe> ay^ and TiMiDo : ok, well i'll just wait until a bugfix comes out... don't want to mess around with windows drivers for something that usually works
[07:19] <TiMiDo> sarixe: dude. it actually works. and nothing will happend to your system that's for sure.
[07:19] <ay^> sarixe: mkay, I do find ndiswrapper pretty straight forward tho
[07:19] <TiMiDo> that's why they made ndiswrapper
[07:19] <ziroday> sarixe: wait I was wrong. Please read http://www.ubuntu.net/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[07:19] <KX> Anyone, please? I miss sound.
[07:19] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Omeil: No Prob, did it come out OK?
[07:19] <sarixe> but the thing is, i'm not even using 802.11n, i don't think
[07:20] <ziroday> sarixe: that won't matter. You need to enable backports and install the package required
[07:20] <sarixe> network manager tells me the speed is 54mb/s, which is g, right?
[07:21] <ay^> sarixe: could be the routers speed?
[07:21] <Omeil> TheDeepFriedBoo, Yeah had to force it a little aside because of the frame screws being in the way.
[07:21] <sarixe> ay^ : my router does support n
[07:21] <angloman> ziroday: hd0,0 says invalid device, hd0,1 / 2 / 3 says no such partition 4,5,6 says invalid device
[07:21] <sarixe> at any rate, i'll try this package
[07:21] <ay^> sarixe: hum, wierd. wasn't your card a N-card?
[07:21] <sarixe> it is an n card
[07:21] <sarixe> yes, this is weird
[07:21] <ziroday> angloman: hmm thats odd
[07:21] <ay^> indeed wierd
[07:22] <sarixe> but yeah, i notice it's using a different driver than hardy, iwlagn
[07:22] <ay^> but try ndiswrapper, if it fails just uninstall it and undp any steps you took to get it up
[07:22] <angloman> ziroday: I think it has something to do with the fact that windows was installed on the extended partition or something
[07:22] <sarixe> i'd rather try the bugfix'd version of iwlagn
[07:22] <ziroday> sarixe: did you read the release notes I gave you. It explains how to fix your problem
[07:22] <ay^> sarixe: yeah that makes sense :)
[07:22] <ziroday> angloman: not sure then sorry
[07:22] <sarixe> yes, that's what i'm probably gonna do, zibri
[07:22] <sarixe> ziroday *
[07:23] <ziroday> sarixe: it mentions "kernel panics when used with 802.11n or 802.11g networks"
[07:23] <sarixe> ah, well i guess that applies to me either way
[07:24] <crtoe> how do i know if my ethernet card is functioning at full speed?
[07:24] <Peddy> ~/.beagle is really big (2GB), is it safe to remove it if I don't want indexing?
[07:24] <ziroday> Peddy: why don't you just uninstall beagle?
[07:25] <itachibuntu> i don't know
[07:25] <Peddy> ziroday: For some reason, the package 'beagle' is uninstalled :/
[07:25] <_MattB> how can I make /tmp a ram drive in server ?
[07:25] <itachibuntu> is here an indonesian?
[07:26] <itachibuntu> hey!
[07:26] <itachibuntu> is here an indonesian?
[07:26] <Viktoras> not realy I think :)
[07:26] <itachibuntu> why?
[07:26] <Peddy> They all left a few minutes ago :/
[07:27] <itachibuntu> ok, do you want to help me?
[07:27] <ziroday> Peddy: ah then you can remove that file
[07:27] <Peddy> Ok. but itachibuntu, you could try #ubuntu-id
[07:27] <sarixe> brb
[07:27] <ziroday> !id | itachibuntu
[07:27] <itachibuntu> ok
[07:27] <Viktoras> itachibuntu: you could ask directly after saying hi, instead of asking tons of off-topic questions :]
[07:28] <Peddy> ziroday I purged it anyway, the new version of synaptic has a handy feature which allows you to purge conf files of non-installed progs
[07:28] <itachibuntu> oops sorry!
[07:28] <riz0n> Hi, what is an easy way to install grub to a partition after Ubuntu has already been installed?
[07:28] <ziroday> Peddy: yep, that will do it as well
[07:28] <ziroday> !grub | riz0n you want the first link
[07:28] <Peddy> itachibuntu: I can still try and help you, though :)
[07:28] <itachibuntu> ok
[07:29] <itachibuntu> my wifi password is strange
[07:29] <_MattB> riz0n, what are you trying to do?
[07:29] <Viktoras> it turned strange yellow colour?
[07:29] <trollboy> How do I do a SCP or a SFTP recursively but ignore symlinks
[07:29] <payam> hello
[07:30] <itachibuntu> no
[07:30] <payam> i have a problem in APTonCD
[07:30] <Peddy> Which problem with wifi are you having, itachibuntu
[07:30] <Peddy> ?
[07:30] <riz0n> _MattB: i have installed ubuntu to my PC, and then installed Vista... I did not select the option at the end of ubuntu to add the loader to the partition instead of the MBR, and now i want to use EasyBCD to add Ubuntu to the loader of Vista.
[07:31] <ubuntu_> doesn't wibu come in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[07:31] <ziroday> riz0n: if you insist on using the vista bootloader then you need to ask the folks in ##windows to help you
[07:31] <ubuntu_> only see 8.04
[07:31] <riz0n> Both of the /join ##windows
[07:31] <riz0n> oops
[07:31] <riz0n> sorry
[07:31] <payam> i maked a back up from my programs using AptonCD but i cant use it in Program Resources
[07:31] <FloodBot3> riz0n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <itachibuntu> it strange because my wifi is wpa and my wifi password always more in restart
[07:31] <payam> whats the problem?
[07:31] <ziroday> ubuntu_: no, see http://wubi-installer.org/
[07:32] <lyrae> has anyone here gotten photoshop cs3 running? if so, are you on x86 or 64?
[07:33] <Peddy> itachibuntu: Right-click network manager, > edit connections> wireless, your wireless, and choose Connect Automatically
[07:33] <Hentay> lyrae,  ROCKS :)
[07:33] <Hentay> gimp
[07:33] <Hentay> :)
[07:34] <itachibuntu> not sucessfull
[07:34] <Peddy> itachibuntu: What do you mean? Isn't it connecting?
[07:34] <lyrae> =[
[07:35] <[eXception]> cannot find the system/install usb start  on my ubuntu live cd....
[07:35] <lyrae> ok, how about counterstrike source? i get low fps, but so do tons of people. i think it might be the processor arch
[07:35] <itachibuntu> no option "Connect Automatically" on my NetworkManager
[07:35] <Peddy> itachibuntu: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:35] <itachibuntu> hardy heron
[07:35] <Hentay> due to cs i don't know :)
[07:35] <Peddy> aha
[07:35] <TeslaTony> lyrae: So far, the CS series of programs don't work so well, although 7 works OK
[07:36] <lyte> uh oh, i just lost the game
[07:36] <TeslaTony> (photoshop 7)
[07:36] <itachibuntu> what? do you have idea?
[07:36] <lyrae> TeslaTony: thanks
[07:36] <Hentay> i'll  have to instal it myself today and then i will be able to say for u how...
[07:36] <Peddy> itachibuntu: You could try upgrading to 8.10, Intrepid Ibex. It has more support for wireless. I forgot how to connect automatically in Hardy :/
[07:36] <anhdh> after i copy some .ttf files into ~/.fonts and use the command sudo fc-cache -f  --> open office does'nt recognize those fonts and i can't see the text in ff3   can smb help me!!!!!
[07:37] <TeslaTony> lyrae: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5182.html
[07:37] <ziroday> lyrae: you might want to also ask in #winehq
[07:37] <[eXception]> ubuntu live cd 8.10: Missing option "install usb stick"
[07:37] <NeT_DeMoN> is there a way I can repair Ubuntu without having to go through GDM with a Live CD?
[07:37] <Peddy> !upgrading | itachibuntu
[07:37] <itachibuntu> ok thank you but i am have request Ubuntu Intrepid CD
[07:37] <Flannel> [eXception]: Once you boot, theres a menu entry for it
[07:37] <[eXception]> Flannel: fail
[07:37] <anhdh> after i copy some .ttf files into ~/.fonts and use the command sudo fc-cache -f  --> open office does'nt recognize those fonts and i can't see the text in ff3   can smb help me!!!!!
[07:38] <Peddy> itachibuntu: I see :).
[07:38] <Peddy> Could you please describe your problem again?
[07:38] <lyrae> TeslaTony: dont you have to pay for cedega though?
[07:38] <itachibuntu> my wifi is very slow
[07:38] <itachibuntu> i dont update
[07:38] <[eXception]> no menu entry
[07:38] <Peddy> itachibuntu: which wifi card do you have?
[07:38] <Flannel> [eXception]: yes, under system > admin, I believe.  maybe system > preferences
[07:38] <spolvid> OK, I need lots of help. Right now I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac Mini, and for some reason the CD installer can't see my external drives (one of which being the drive I want to install onto) from the live session. It can see them if I go to the installer straight from the CD splash screen, however, but I can't do that because the installer fails as soon as it installs GRUB, and according to macubuntu.blogspot.com this is beca
[07:38] <[eXception]> Flannel: no menu entry....
[07:38] <itachibuntu> Atheros
[07:39] <Selveste1> Hey :) I have Just installed the new Ubuntu, and I want to set up proxy for my openvpn in network-manager-gnome but I do not understand the proxy-config :S
[07:39] <TeslaTony> lyrae: Yeah, but if you poke around the forums or ask in #winehq you'll probably find a method for WINE
[07:39] <itachibuntu> this is very good
[07:39] <zetheroo> why are the smilies in Skype animate?
[07:39] <itachibuntu> on internet
[07:39] <zetheroo> sorry
[07:39] <zetheroo> why don't they animate
[07:39] <zetheroo> ?
[07:40] <Flannel> [eXception]: System > Admin > Create a USB Startup Disk
[07:40] <zetheroo> to rephrase that question : Why don't the smilies in Skype animate?
[07:40] <itachibuntu> but if i am download Update Ubuntu Intrepid, my computer is very slow! because it very big!
[07:40] <itachibuntu> 1006 MB!
[07:40] <itachibuntu> o
[07:41] <Peddy> :D
[07:41] <[eXception]> Flannel: no
[07:41] <[eXception]> believe me theres not
[07:41] <itachibuntu> can Peddy help me?
[07:41] <Peddy> itachibuntu: Could you please type 'lspci' into a terminal, and see what model your Atheros card is?
[07:41] <[eXception]> thats why I'mma asking here.
[07:41] <Selveste1> under Adress i put the IP of the proxy, Prefix ? is that the port ? Gateway ?????? Metric ????
[07:41] <Flannel> [eXception]: Do you have Ubuntu 8.10?  or one of the pre-release versions?
[07:41] <itachibuntu> it is very good
 it's x64 bit version
[07:41] <Flannel> [eXception]: The final version?  also http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/make-usb-startup-disk.jpg
[07:42] <andres_> Try writing usb-creator in a terminal
[07:42] <SYLs> asdas
[07:42] <itachibuntu>  Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[07:43] <SYLs> quit
[07:43] <Xavura> I'm having amazing problems with sound on Intrepid
[07:43] <Peddy> itachibuntu: is your internet, or LAN slow?
[07:43] <Xavura> Here's what I tried... /nick KX
[07:43] <Xavura> err
[07:43] <godstar> This is what you want....http://klik.atekon.de/liveusb/ if you have any questions. Try #liveusb channel on this server. Pr0bono is very helpful. Tool rox!
[07:43] <Xavura> Screw you copy and paste.
[07:43] <Xavura> Here's what I tried: http://pastie.org/309364
[07:43] <itachibuntu> i want to update this Ubuntu
[07:43] <[eXception]> Flannel: Yes, just downloaded it yesterday from ubuntu.com
[07:44] <Xavura> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/xavura/.gvfs
[07:44] <Xavura> Etc.
[07:44] <Flashtek> good morning all..
[07:44] <andres_> eXception, try the command usb-creator
[07:44] <deadly_sinn> hey, is there a channel for studio?
[07:44] <andres_> Good morning Flashtek :P
[07:44] <[eXception]> thx andres_
[07:44] <v3s4> every now and then I loose the ability to type the third option keys  (AltGr + key_with_3_options). Could someone tell me where to start looking?
[07:44] <andres_> Did it work? :P
[07:44] <riz0n> when I try to install grub and i run setup (hd0,1) it says "Running embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,1) failed (this is not fatal)" is this something i need to be concerned about?
[07:45] <Xavura> Come on
[07:45] <Xavura> Are you seriously telling me no one has had problems with sound on Intrepid
[07:45] <Xavura> ?
[07:45] <crtoe> how do i know if my ethernet card is functioning at full speed?
[07:45] <Viktoras> Xavura: I do
[07:45] <Xavura> As soon as I upgraded my sound was just gone, all together.
[07:45] <Flashtek> I am trying to get an Ubuntu 8.1 server setup with Xen as a virtualization platform.. I can't find the package to install for the dom0/domU kernel.. can anyone assist me ?
[07:45] <andres_> I had sound problems on Hardy, but not on Ibex :)
[07:45] <Xavura> Viktoras: Found any fixes...?
[07:45] <vikku> Hello all
[07:45] <vikku> when i selec turn off from log off option ....system halts but doesnt power off ...anyting i need to fix ?
[07:45] <Xavura> None of the fixes I found work
[07:45] <Xavura> I kind of want sound, music, videos etc. you know?
[07:46] <Viktoras> nope
[07:46] <andres_> Yeah, what are those problems?
[07:46] <Xavura> There's always something major that doesn't work isn't tehre.
[07:46] <andres_> I mean, repetitive sounds? Noise?
[07:46] <andres_> No sound at all? :P
[07:46] <Xavura> No sound at all.
[07:46] <Xavura> I've tried every suggestion on the first page of Google
[07:46] <andres_> Umm... did you try with aoss?
[07:46] <Flashtek> Xavura: how about page 2 ?
[07:46] <Xavura> for a search of "intrepid fix alsa" and "intrepid fix pulse audio"
[07:46] <andres_> Like, aoss amarok?
[07:47] <ryancr> join #xbmc-linux
[07:47] <Xavura> and also "intrepid sound problems"
[07:47] <ryancr> doh
[07:47] <Xavura> Nothing.
[07:47] <Flashtek> Xavura: my usual issue is the sound being muted..
[07:47] <Xavura> Checked.
[07:47] <Xavura> Yes it's plugged in.
[07:47] <Xavura> I checked everything damn it.
[07:48] <Xavura> Really annoying, when I try to force-reload alsa anyway I get some errors
[07:48] <Xavura> but I don't know what they mean, perhaps they have to do with it
[07:48] <Flashtek> Xavura: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/dsp
[07:48] <Flashtek> Xavura: does that produse nouse ?
[07:48] <andres_> Umm... one funny thing happened to me the first time i used ibex. There were no sound... because the "PCM" volume was 0 :P
[07:48] <Xavura> Nope
[07:48] <varun_> i'm on x86_64, but i want to wine a i386 software, is it possible?
[07:48] <Xavura> The fuzzing stopped for a second and I heard a few beeps
[07:48] <Xavura> well
[07:48] <Xavura> like interference
[07:49] <Xavura> not actual sound
[07:49] <FloodBot3> Xavura: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <Xavura> Yeah yeah, but the fuzzing was always there - even when I used these speakers on Windows
[07:49] <paul68> `Tony: are you here?
[07:49] <Flashtek> Xavura: fizzing usually suggests volume too high, or cheap hardware..
[07:49] <andres_> varun, i have not tried that.
[07:49] <Xavura> The latter.
[07:50] <andres_> But i guess it is possible.
[07:50] <Xavura> I care not about the fuzzing, it has been present since I bought these things
[07:50] <Xavura> but I'd kind of like to get sound working
[07:50] <Flashtek> brb
[07:50] <Xavura> Can anyone tell me what these errors mean...: http://pastie.org/309364
[07:50] <Xavura> Please...
[07:50] <Xavura> I'm thinking it's playing a part in sound not working.
[07:51]  * Viktoras reinstall
[07:51] <SeReF> s.a  gunaydýn linux vps den anlayan varmý acaba _?
[07:51] <sinn> soo anyone know anything about the korg 1212?
[07:51] <Flannel> !tr | SeReF
[07:52] <SeReF> ok
[07:52] <andres_> Umm... i need to sleep :P Good nigth every1
[07:53] <Xavura> I need music.
[07:54] <energY> How do I make VLC the default to play videos?
[07:54] <energY> That standard  crap doesn't work...
[07:54] <energY> It says I need codecs... VLC doesn't need them.
[07:55] <heret1c> hello. :)
[07:56] <sinn> anyone have a clue how to config the korg 1212?
[07:56] <Xavura> "Been using ubuntu for 2 years and it seems ever time theres a up grade the sound problems remain."
[07:56] <Xavura> Ha, great.
[07:56] <vlt> Hello. What does the following message mean when running `aptitude update`?
[07:56] <vlt> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[07:57] <Xavura> Bad HTTP header, site probably had a boo boo.
[07:57] <heret1c> which is the correct channel to ask about after-upgrade hassles (8.04 -> 8.10)? Touchpad stopped working.
[07:57] <philsdutchie> Someone knows how to enlarge the zenity dialog box (Ubuntu hardy 64)
[07:57] <vlt> Xavura: From another machine running dapper it works ...
[07:59] <sinn> ok
[07:59] <sinn> here is a question...do all the audio devices listed on alsa work??
[08:00] <energY> I have a problem, I have only 180 MB of free space, can I get ubuntu?
[08:00] <siccness> no
[08:00] <Xavura> It's not like HDDs are expensive, get another one :P
[08:01] <ohdamnallnics> can anyone tell me how to install lg3d in intrepid?
[08:01] <energY> It is 2,5"
[08:01] <Flashtek> 160gb SATA disk here is ~£30
[08:01] <heret1c> repeat: which is the correct channel to ask about after-upgrade hassles (8.04 -> 8.10)? Touchpad stopped working.
[08:01] <Flashtek> heret1c: here i would guess..
[08:01] <energY> Flashtek: 2.5"?
[08:02] <siccness> energY: laptop?
[08:02] <energY> yes
[08:02] <heret1c> Flashtek, is it an xorg.conf issue?
[08:02] <ohdamnallnics> can anyone tell me how to install lg3d in intrepid?
[08:02] <siccness> energY: options...bigger disk to replace current one
[08:03] <siccness> option b) install to an external disk
[08:03] <siccness> c) free up space on current disk, back up the data, resize the partition, install ubuntu as secondary OS
[08:03] <Xavura> Man sine waves are freaky.
[08:03] <siccness> pick one
[08:03] <Xavura> My PCM was muted...
[08:04]  * Xavura hugs alsamixer
[08:04] <rsvp> any idea why FIREFOX 3.0 is not available for 7.10?
[08:04] <energY> siccness: Can I make VLC the default video-playing program?
[08:04] <a_ok> how can i see what version apt is going to install without actually installing it?
[08:04] <hangbing> 大家好
[08:04] <siccness> If you want.
[08:04] <heret1c> Flashtek, pad works with xubuntu live cd, not kubuntu install.
[08:04] <energY> siccness: How?
[08:05] <msandbu> energY: System - preferences - prefered applications
[08:05] <siccness> System > Preferences > Preferred Application > Select Multimedia Tab > Select custom in the drop down menu > type wxvlc in the text box and close
[08:05] <siccness> Come on energY, use google. these questions are all pointless
[08:05] <energY> Why wxvlc?
[08:05] <energY> Why not just vlc %s?
[08:05] <siccness> test it and see if it works
[08:05] <siccness> i use windows, i cant test for you
[08:06] <energY> ok
[08:06] <vlt> Now I replaced the repo in sources.list but again I get "Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 141.76.2.131 80]". For that server too. Any idea?
[08:06] <energY> siccness: Ubuntu isn't good enough for you?
[08:06] <msandbu> lol
[08:06] <siccness> It's not that, I recently blew away all my disks and havent bothered to install Linux yet
[08:07] <a_ok> energY, im on windows too, but fact is windows is not good enough for me either :) (gentoo is)
[08:07] <siccness> and you're right, Ubuntu isn't good enough for me
[08:07] <siccness> Ubuntu is half of what I deserve
[08:07] <a_ok> lol
[08:08] <TiMiDo> siccness: you think?
[08:08] <siccness> I know.
[08:08] <a_ok> anyways how can i see what version of a sertain package apt is going to install without actually installing it?
[08:09] <siccness> a_ok: heh, trying to mask? :D
[08:09] <ladies_sexy> uey uey
[08:09] <[eXception]> there a shortcut to open a shell and then switch between shell and gui?
[08:09] <a_ok> siccness, nope don know how that works (yet)
[08:09] <TiMiDo> [eXception]: huh?
[08:09] <siccness> a_ok: heh
[08:09] <frybye> hi - who has a soloution for this prob. with skype on 64bit intrepid.. have used the skype-static-oss install as this was the only one that worked in the past on ubuntu 64bit.. but now after a few mins the sound system dies.. re-starting the pc fixes it but...???
[08:10] <ladies_sexy> hah??
[08:10] <TiMiDo> frybye: try sudo alsaconf
[08:10] <TiMiDo> and follow the instructions. frybye
[08:10] <vlt> Any idea how to solve this problem with `aptitude update`? (Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80])
[08:10] <jack__> exit
 I want to open a shell with a shortcut
[08:10] <siccness> frybye: if that doesnt work, look for a culpirate application that is screwing it up, blow it away, try again
[08:11] <frybye> TiMiDo ok than ks for the info - cant try right now - am at a diff. location with winbox but thanks anyhow.. will see too it later..
[08:11] <[eXception]> im new to ubuntu :(
[08:11] <TiMiDo> frybye: sure np
[08:11] <a_ok> siccness, are you refering to pinning?
[08:11] <siccness> [eXception]: that means ubuntu is new to you!
[08:11] <siccness> a_ok, pinning sounds like a complex word for me
[08:12] <[eXception]> yes sry :/ also no native english
[08:12] <TiMiDo> [eXception]: where you from?
[08:12] <[eXception]> germany timido
[08:12] <TiMiDo> [eXception]: try #ubuntu-de
[08:12] <[eXception]> thx
[08:12] <TiMiDo> np
[08:12] <siccness> almost beer time
[08:13] <e-frame> !de
[08:13] <TiMiDo> !lart e-frame
[08:13] <TiMiDo> :X
[08:13] <a_ok> siccness, i can't find anything on masking packages and apt. (know how do do it with portage though but there we have decent search utills that show exactly what packages are available)
[08:13] <e-frame> :-??
[08:13] <siccness> a_ok: yeah, not sure with apt myself.
[08:14] <a_ok> siccness, thanks anyway
[08:14] <ladies_sexy> g ad orng indo???
[08:14] <siccness> a_ok: try google
[08:14] <a_ok> siccness, already did
[08:14] <a_ok> else i wouldn't be here
[08:14] <Mal3ko> can someone explain something to me in simple words..?
[08:14] <siccness> heh
[08:14] <siccness> pinning does sound familiar tho
[08:15] <a_ok> Mal3ko, depends on whats to explain
[08:15] <Mal3ko> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches VS echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[08:15] <a_ok> siccness, yeah but that means that i have to edit files just to find out what version is available... kinda overkill
[08:16] <elmargol> Hi, konversation does not show me any z anymore :(
[08:16] <dig> didn't find the answer in other channels, so like to ask.
[08:16] <dig> is it true that ---> find -name tmp_file -execdir customiize_script <---- will find the tmp_file, then executing customize_script (which is under the same dir as tmp_file)
[08:17] <AciD> I'm using ubuntu 8.10 and noticed the new gnome-display-properties does not ask for a confirmation when you change resolution, how can you get that behavior back ?
[08:18] <ss_> Where are keyboard layouts kept in 8.10? they were at /etc/X11/xkb/symbols before.........
[08:18] <a_ok> Mal3ko, /proc is a way to retreive AND set info of the system. what it exactly does i do not know yet as it is file specific, ill look it up for you
[08:19] <Mal3ko> a_ok: i need to know about echo x what the number there mean?
[08:19] <chainoo> #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <elmargol> http://elmargol.soup.io/post/6713919/Bild <- any ideas?
[08:20] <Mal3ko> cause when i use echo 3, my system become a slighly sluggish
[08:20] <a_ok> Mal3ko, the number tells the kernel what caches to clean. take a look here: http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html
[08:21] <Mal3ko> oh i see..what's "dentries and inodes"?
[08:22] <a_ok> Mal3ko, if you do not know what inodes are i suggest you google a bit.
[08:22] <Minion007> hey guys
[08:23] <Mal3ko> what's that equivalent to in windows?
[08:23] <zetheroo> what happened to the restart button in Ubuntu?
[08:23] <zetheroo> its gone!!!
[08:23] <stinger> hello - I am trying to use nvidia-settings to user overscan but the option is not showing up - it shows up on my otherbox though ? any ideas please help
[08:25] <pagarill> hi, is there someone who can help me out with my WLAN Adapter RTL8187SE (running LG X110 Netbook)??
[08:25] <a_ok> Mal3ko, either they have the same thing in windows or its closed source and i don't hava a clue. inodes are what makes files on disk just look it up on wikipedia its quite easy to understand (at least it should be if you are going to do obscure things like flushing kernel cache...)
[08:26] <Mal3ko> :)
[08:26] <a_ok> Mal3ko, dentries are directory entries btw
[08:28] <Mal3ko> yeah..thanks btw :)
[08:28] <apo_> I just did "gdb /usr/bin/Xorg", then "attach <pid>". Then the whole system froze... is this normal? =P
[08:29] <ardchoille> ziroday: It didn't work, I have tried several different ways to install the nvidia drivers and each way leaves me with black tty's
[08:29] <Kartagis> why do i get sound from the speakers too although i plugged in a jack?
[08:29] <crd1b> apo_: that's probably a bad idea, yes
[08:30] <OrangeMechanique> hi, maybe thats not the best channel to ask (or maybe it is =D). But does anyone know a little bit about the HP Proliant machines?
[08:30] <ardchoille> Oh well, I guess I can do without the graphics drivers, Intrepid is stable and functional :)
[08:33] <zetheroo> anyone?
[08:34] <zetheroo> also a friend of mine is having problems with his ATI drivers in Ubuntu ... the Hardware Drivers dialog says that the driver is active but not in use  .... whats that mean?
[08:34] <Rafik> zetheroo: is has been replaced by a full menu with log out, suspend, restart, shutdown and hibernate
[08:34] <Rafik> it*
[08:35] <zetheroo> Rafik: where is that menu? All I get is switch user and log out ...
[08:35] <leohartx> how do i update AWN from 0.2.6 to 0.3.1
[08:35] <ay^> zetheroo: I got a question about it, if I wanted it to replace the old one
[08:36] <ay^> so mine us right next to the name of the user who is logged in
[08:36] <zetheroo> ay^: sorry? what do you want to do?
[08:36] <ay^> zetheroo: tell you where it might be
[08:37] <leohartx> how do i update AWN from 0.2.6 to 0.3.1 ?
[08:37] <Minion007> when i load a program and run it in wine. the screen goes funnyand looks  like a corrupt video. the reason i was trying wine was that i wanted to install flashgot. none of the other dl managers have sheduling and when it does then it doesnt work, any suggestion to  a decent download manager??
[08:37] <zetheroo> ay^: I dunno ... all I get when I click the power button is Log Off and Switch User
[08:38] <apo_> crd1b: Uh, no. I have to do it because I'm trying to debug wacom stuff. But I just forgot to 'c'
[08:38] <ay^> zetheroo: did you get the question about replacing the old menu?
[08:39] <zetheroo> ay^: are you telling me to replace the old menu? ...
[08:39] <crd1b> apo_: I would imagine that "alt+printscrn+r" would be helpful as X has gets raw keyboard access and gdb might break in a "bad spot", although using it remotely over ssh would probably avoid all of that
[08:39] <ay^> zetheroo: no, I'm asking wether you got the question about replacing the old menu, but I take it that you did not.
[08:39] <lyrae> I am uninstalling something with synaptic...and it says "to be removed: ubuntu-desktop"...what does that mean?
[08:40] <zetheroo> ay^: I just added an applet to the panel ... called Shut Down ... and when I click that one I get all the options
[08:40] <ay^> zetheroo: sweet :)
[08:41] <zetheroo> ay^: is that what I was supposed to do ,,,,
[08:41] <ay^> zetheroo: well, what did you want to do? If you wanted the menu, I suppose so. If your still talking about the question I got, then no.
[08:41] <gypsymauro> hi
[08:42] <zetheroo> ay^: whats your question?
[08:42] <gypsymauro> what contains the ubuntu DVD? it's enough for having full language support and some nice software like vlc?
[08:42] <zetheroo> btw .. does anyone know what to do if Ubuntu is telling me that the ATI drivers are active but not in use?
[08:42] <ay^> zetheroo: my question? Do you mean the question the system asked me when I upgraded, or do you mean any question I might have about anything ubuntu-ish?
[08:43] <zetheroo> ay^: ha ... I am just asking you if you had a question you wanted to ask me ...
[08:43] <ay^> zetheroo: I cannot think of one, no. do you want me to? :)
[08:43] <a_ok> gypsymauro, full language support is something you always have with linux, and software is something you can install anywhere if you have a network connection
[08:44] <zetheroo> ay^: no worries... do you know anything about the ATI question I was asking?
[08:44] <apo_> crd1b: Yeah, I logged in over ssh and then continued ^_^
[08:44] <Weeltin> hi.. question: what program should i use to remote admin my server (web-based)
[08:44] <ay^> zetheroo: I don't know what that question was, but since I dont have a ATI, I will say no.
[08:45] <OrangeMechanique> Weeltin, I've seen the Webmin and it looks really nice
[08:45] <woody86_> how can I find out what other temperature sensors I have in my laptop?
[08:45] <DIFH-iceroot> woody86_: lmsensors is good for this
[08:46] <woody86> DIFH-iceroot- is that a program?
[08:46] <Weeltin> OrangeMechanique: thanks...
[08:46] <DIFH-iceroot> woody86: yes
[08:46] <Minion007> can anyone help me? when i load a program and run it in wine. the screen goes funnyand looks like a corrupt video. the reason i was trying wine was that i wanted to install flashgot. none of the other dl managers have sheduling and when it does then it doesnt work, any suggestion to a decent download manager??
[08:46] <woody86> DIFH-iceroot- ok, thanks, I'll give it a shot
[08:48] <gypsymauro> a_ok: the problem is that I've not a network connection where I will install ubuntu
[08:49] <gypsymauro> a_ok: and when you install a localized ubuntu you have not all packages for ur language (openoffice and firefox for example are in english) you must download packages from network but I will have not network connection there
[08:50] <gammy> In which package is the manpage for less?!
[08:50] <gammy> and tail and so on
[08:51] <enzo> ciao
[08:51] <enzo> !list
[08:51] <enzo> help
[08:51] <enzo> !help
[08:51] <bullgard4> What command makes the man pages displayed in color?
[08:51] <qstnn> I have an icon-set downloaded from gnome-look.org a part of mac4lin project called mac4lin_icons. Till recently everything was working fine. Nothing has changed, I upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 but even after the upgrade things worked. The problem is, when I start gedit the process jumps to 100% and I have to force-quit it. If i change the icon set everything starts working. I really like the icon set which was working fine till now, and I do not wish to change it.
[08:52] <ay^> gammy: I don't know really, they came with my system.
[08:52] <gammy> ay^: yeah this is a stupid minimal install
[08:53] <gammy> ay^: that manual does not come with the base manuals for some "%&/#¤ing reason
[08:53] <elmargol>  http://elmargol.soup.io/post/6713919/Bild http://elmargol.soup.io/post/6714356/Bild any ideas?
[08:53] <gammy> ay^: The fact that I can't find the bloody manual in 20 minutes says something about the poorness of package content searches
[08:54] <ay^> gammy: yeah..
[08:54] <a_ok> at least let me answer than...
[08:55] <UserC> Hey, just wondering, when i use skydome and enable the "animate skydome" option.. the res drops down drastically. is there anyway to fix that? thanks!
[08:56] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting
[08:56] <lalaland> how do check where a HD is mounted? (sda,sdb,etc)
[08:56] <Weeltin> noob question: how do i edit the source.list on a server?? (command)
[08:56] <anand> need help with crossover on xfce
[08:56] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting
[08:57] <UserC> Hey, just wondering, when i use skydome and enable the "animate skydome" option.. the res drops down drastically. is there anyway to fix that? thanks!
[08:57] <anand> had similar prob reg theme, need to activate xfce4-session in xubuntu
[08:58] <Ohmu> how can I kill my dead mplayer windows?
[08:58] <OdnsRvns> How do i make a file executable
[08:59] <Ohmu> OdnsRvns, chmod u+x myfile
[08:59] <ay^> gammy: is there a man page for coreutils?
[08:59] <Ohmu> OdnsRvns, use a+x if you want all users to be able to execute it
[08:59] <Etoss> does ubuntu lamp server have any firewall apps or anything that could block mysql?
[08:59] <Ohmu> OdnsRvns, ls -l to check you got it right
[09:00] <OdnsRvns> thanks guy be right back
[09:00] <anand> help with crossover on xfce. no integration
[09:00] <UserC> Hey, just wondering, when i use skydome and enable the "animate skydome" option.. the res drops down drastically. is there anyway to fix that? thanks!
[09:01] <Kartagis> why do i get sound from the speakers too although i plugged in a jack?
[09:01] <Kartagis> s/jack/earphones
[09:02] <ay^> gammy: scratch that, the man for tail is supposed to be IN coreutils
[09:02] <gammy> yes I know it is. But it isn't.
[09:03] <ay^> download the package from ubuntu packages then?
[09:04] <ay^> gammy: do you have man for any other command?
[09:05] <dennda> In the graphical update manager there used to be a "what has changed" list of things. The tab for that still exists, but now always claims no list of changes is available. Is that intended?
[09:05] <vlt> Any idea how to solve this problem with `aptitude update`? (Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80])
[09:07] <OdnsRvns> It says no such file its on my desktop im looking at it this is what i put chmod a+x VMware-Workstation-6.5.0-118166.x86_64.bundle
[09:07] <RinTinTigger> can anyone assist?
[09:07] <gigel2007> Can anyone tell me how can I see all the wireless connectins available, clicking on the tray icon doesn't show them all?
[09:08] <ay^> OdnsRvns: just type the first few letters and then tab the rest
[09:08] <ay^> gigel2007: I just click it a few types and those long distance connections pop up from time to time. If the signal is too low it wont show up
[09:09] <OdnsRvns> in terminal ?
[09:09] <ay^> OdnsRvns: yeah
[09:09] <OdnsRvns> k
[09:09] <gigel2007> ara: yes, but how can I view them all anyway ?
[09:09] <ay^> gigel2007: well it they don't have signal, you can't
[09:09] <OdnsRvns> when io hit tab nothing happens
[09:10] <gigel2007> ay^: no way, for example airodump sees way more
[09:10] <ay^> OdnsRvns: then its not the correct few first letters
[09:10] <AdvoWork> anyone know of a current and upto date easy to follow guide for installing apache with php support on ubuntu?
[09:10] <ay^> OdnsRvns: type ls to see all files, that aren't hidden
[09:11] <ay^> gotta go, my daughter commands!
[09:12] <OdnsRvns> Desktop  Documents  Examples  Music .. how do i get to each
[09:12] <gammy> ay^: yes I solved the problem. It was an admin cockup.
[09:12] <weew> anyone know how pairing heatset bluetooth  ??
[09:12] <gigel2007> Can anyone tell me how can I see all the wireless connectins available, clicking on the tray icon doesn't show them all? ?
[09:12] <TheAncientGoat> Hey guys, mind if I ask a few Kubuntu questions here?
[09:12] <gammy> TheAncientGoat: just ask
[09:12] <larry> masshole
[09:12] <TheAncientGoat> My bluetooth keyboard stopped working, audio playback isn't up to scratch, xorg is being most despondent, and plasmoids has crashed on me..
[09:13] <weew> anyone know how pairing heatset bluetooth  ??   T_T  <--
[09:13] <TheAncientGoat> My original question was if I could ask Kubuntu questions here :P
[09:13] <ardchoille> TheAncientGoat: that's what #kubuntu is for
[09:14] <OdnsRvns> when i hit ls how do i access the tabs
[09:14] <gigel2007> Can anyone tell me how can I see all the wireless connectins available, clicking on the tray icon doesn't show them all?
[09:14] <TheAncientGoat> See, thanks
[09:16] <AdvoWork> ive just done: sudo tasksel install lamp-server    and its finished, but apache isnt running, i dont know how to configure or anything?
[09:17] <pw-toxic> hi, i want to have different wallpapers for my 4 deskstops
[09:17] <gigel2007> Can anyone tell me how can I see all the wireless connectins available, clicking on the tray icon doesn't show them all?
[09:17] <pw-toxic> how can i do this? i have the compiz manager installed and used diferrent wallpapers with the desktop cube, but the wallpaper of system->preferences->apprearance is shown on every desktop
[09:18] <lalaland> i mounted something through fstab. i mounted it in /mnt/Shared ... when i reboot, i check the Shared folder, and the HD files there are...but it's not under 'places'. i cant even see it when browsing for files. how can i fix?
[09:19] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve this problem with `aptitude update`? "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]"
[09:20] <gigel2007> Can anyone tell me how can I see all the wireless connectins available, clicking on the tray icon doesn't show them all?
[09:21] <xiangfu> gigel2007: you can try wifi-radar
[09:21] <gigel2007> xiangfu: where and how
[09:21] <xiangfu> gigel2007: sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[09:21] <gigel2007> xiangfu: ok so there is no other way like in windows ?
[09:22] <Some_ux> hi
[09:22] <a_ok> gigel2007, iwlist iface scan
[09:22] <xiangfu> gigel2007: seems no GUI default.
[09:22] <Some_ux> how do i find which pppd version i am running ?
[09:22] <xiangfu> gigel2007: you can iwlist <wireless card > scanning
[09:22] <gigel2007> a_ok: xiangfu: in terminal ?
[09:22] <erkiha> gigel2007: To see all wireless connections you can do in ternminal: iwconfig to find correct interface and then: iwlist ath0 scan
[09:23] <a_ok> gigel2007, yeah
[09:23] <xiangfu> gigel2007: yes
[09:23] <pw-toxic> help - i'm using a laptop and my screen gets dark and bright agin by slowly fading into these state
[09:23] <pw-toxic> at the end i nearly cant read anything
[09:23] <pw-toxic> but then it get magically brighter again within 15-20 seconds
[09:23] <pw-toxic> then it gets darker again after some time..
[09:23] <pw-toxic> this is crazy ;)
[09:23] <gigel2007> xiangfu: a_ok: ath9k interface doesnt support scanning
[09:24] <a_ok> gigel2007, erm that is a really weird iface name
[09:24] <a_ok> pastbin the output of iwconfig
[09:24] <Asad2005> i have ubuntu 8.04 amd64 installed is it possible to upgrade to a 32 bit version 8.10
[09:24] <gigel2006> a_ok: how can I find my interface name ? (i tried wlan0 as well)
[09:24] <pw-toxic> can anyone help me on this topic?
[09:24] <xiangfu> gigel2007: "iwconfig " there should wireless card.
[09:25] <Some_ux> I can't seem to find any option which lets me discover the pppd version i am running
[09:25] <woody86> is there a way to change at what temperatures the cooling fans turn on/off?
[09:25] <xiangfu> pw-toxic: i have the same issue. when i update xorg under 8.04. but now it's nomarl in 8.10
[09:25] <a_ok> gigel2006, i wonder if your card is correctly supported
[09:25] <gigel2006> a_ok: xiangfu: iwlist wlan0 scanning, wlan0 no scan results
[09:25] <pw-toxic> xiangfu: i have 8.10 too  in 8.04 everything worked
[09:26] <a_ok> gigel2006, i forgot in order to do iwlist you must first bring the card up: ifconfig ath9 up
[09:26] <gigel2006> a_ok: my card is AR9281 and I can connect to connections but I can't inject
[09:26] <a_ok> ah
[09:26] <xiangfu> pw-toxic: i also don't understand, seems the video  drivers issue.
[09:26] <AdvoWork> im in /var/www but the option to create new folder or file is greyed out when I right click, any ideas please?
[09:26] <gigel2006> a_ok: i tried bringing it up NO SCAN RESULTS
[09:27] <gigel2006> a_ok: airodump show +5 more connections with 200 PWR than me clicking on the tray icon and getting only 8
[09:27] <peter_> привет
[09:27] <peter_> есть кто русский?
[09:28] <peter_> hi!
[09:28] <ziroday> !ru | peter_
[09:28] <xiangfu> peter_: English thanks :-)
[09:28] <a_ok> gigel2006, this is getting a bit more complicated.. since i'm at work i don't have the time for this sorry. can help you out in the evening though
[09:28] <a_ok> later all
[09:28] <zetheroo> I did lspci on a friends machine and it says "command not found" ... please help!
[09:28] <pepe_swash> Hello. Anyone made it possible to boot raid pendrive ubuntu?
[09:29] <ziroday> zetheroo: err thats kinda impossible, did he install ubuntu correctly?
[09:29] <xiangfu> gigel2006: are you sure there is a wireless network? is it work before?
[09:29] <zetheroo> hmm yeah ..
[09:29] <dennda> Why does nvidia-settings segfault on intrepid when trying to save the configuration to xorg.conf?
[09:29] <ziroday> zetheroo: are you sure he's using ubuntu?
[09:30] <zetheroo> ziroday: ha ... I told him the same thing and told him to do it again .. and it worked .. he was using a capital i
[09:30] <ziroday> dennda: no clue, what are you trying to do?
[09:30] <gigel2006> xiangfu: YES I can connect to the networks i can see if I click on the tray icon
[09:31] <gigel2006> xiangfu:  airodump shows +5 more connections with 200 PWR than me clicking on the tray icon and getting only 8
[09:31] <ay^> you have 13 connections?
[09:31] <gigel2006> ay^: around me yes
[09:32] <gigel2006> ay^: with airodum, and they have high PWR
[09:32] <ay^> gigel2006: do you need them all?
[09:32] <ay^> gigel2006: could these other be hidden networks that airodum sniffs out?
[09:32] <gigel2006> ay^: no but if I want to connect to one of the 5 the tray icon isnt seeing, then how can I do that
[09:32] <gigel2006> ay^: no, airodump shows if they are hidden
[09:32] <ay^> gigel2006: create the connection and type the SSID and other settings
[09:32] <maxxer> anyone with broadcomm wifi? I manage to connect, stay for 15s, then association timeout and disconnect
[09:33] <gigel2006> ay^: there is no familiar way to see it? why does the tray icon limit to 8 ?
[09:33] <kane77> what is good media player for online radios and jamendo? I used to like bmpx but now in intrepid it fails to start :(
[09:33] <ay^> gigel2006: I have no idea
[09:33] <gigel2006> ay^: does yours limit it to 8 or can you get more ?
[09:33] <ziroday> kane77: I know rhythmbox supports jamendo
[09:33] <dennda> ziroday: set up my two screens
[09:33] <kane77> maxxer, what driver do you use?
[09:34] <ziroday> dennda: tried doing that with System > Preferences > Screen Resolution?
[09:34] <ay^> gigel2006: I dont think I ever had more that 6 available connections that I've known about
[09:34] <ay^> *than
[09:34] <gigel2006> ay^: if you're in a good area you can get 50+
[09:35] <ay^> gigel2006: I only have 3 main areas :)
[09:35] <gigel2006> ay^: around my apartment I have 13 from what airodump tells me
[09:35] <dennda> ziroday: I am not new to this system. I considered that option but it fails as well. Looks like I got the answer though. thanks
[09:35] <ay^> home, school, and wifes family
[09:35] <AdvoWork> if ive got a cronjob to run a .sh file, where would the logs be kept for that?
[09:35] <ziroday> dennda: sure
[09:35] <gigel2006> ay^: so if a neighbour would want me to connect to it I wouldnt be able to from the tray
[09:35] <maxxer> kane77, b43, i followed restricted driver procedure of intrepid
[09:36] <AdvoWork> or how can i search within all /logs/ for the text "my_script.sh" ?
[09:36] <SlimeyPete> AdvoWork: nowhere, unless your .sh file keeps its own log
[09:36] <AdvoWork> SlimeyPete,  oh
[09:36] <ay^> gigel2006: as I said, you could manually connect via the tray icon
[09:36] <AdvoWork> because it runs sometimes, not others, im trying to work out why its failing
[09:36] <gigel2006> ay^: ok, thanks !
[09:36] <AdvoWork> SlimeyPete, my script does output some info though, wont that be logged somewhere?
[09:36] <kane77> maxxer, I use this driver as well, and it works OK (apart from lower txpower)
[09:36] <ay^> gigel2006: you could try to use wicd instaed of network manager
[09:37] <gigel2006> ay^: is it already installed ?
[09:37] <maxxer> kane77, i had 1mb/s on hardy, but now with wpa it works, but here i have poor wep and keeps disconnecting :(
[09:37] <v3s4> every now and then I loose the ability to type the third option keys  (AltGr + key_with_3_options). Could someone tell me where to start looking?
[09:37] <ay^> gigel2006: no you will have to either compile it or add the repository for it
[09:37] <SlimeyPete> AdvoWork: no, unless you programmed the script in such a way that output is redirected to a file
[09:38] <gigel2006> ay^: oh ok thanks, I got a recommendation about wifi-radar as wekk, but since I have airodump and can see the SSIDs there is no need for 2 more
[09:38] <ay^> gigel2006: I would add the rpo for it
[09:38] <gigel2006> ay^: anyway thanks man I got to go
[09:38] <ay^> gigel2006: yeah sure
[09:38] <ay^> gigel2006: Do that, I have to get going on the food over here
[09:39] <AdvoWork> SlimeyPete, thats a pain then. how can i do that? basically all im doing to get output is set -x at the top, as its a bash script
[09:40] <ay^> AdvoWork: is this a command you want to run? if so you could use fex "> outputsavedhere.txt"
[09:40] <SlimeyPete> AdvoWork: put     &>/path/to/my/logfile.log    at the top
[09:41] <AdvoWork> just "&>/path/to/my/logfile.log"
[09:41] <ay^> of to lunch
[09:41] <Rufus> hey all, just a quick question. I want a list of my files redirected to a text file. I've gone "ls -R > list.txt" but the file it produces has no white space, so it's impossible to read in windows. Is there any way to created a text file from > that can be read in windows by humans?
[09:42] <Rufus> I'd like it written to the file the same way it is on screen
[09:42] <SlimeyPete> AdvoWork: yeah... though actually put a valid path in there obviously :)
[09:42] <AdvoWork> whats that mean though?
[09:42] <AdvoWork> and can i make a new logfile? ie mylogfile.log?
[09:42] <chriswk> Rufus, how about ls -lRH ?
[09:42] <Some_ux_> Hmm, so i found out i have pppd 2.4.4 (running on Hardy). Now i have another problem, I need to re-compile the xl2tp package for Hardy because of a faulty flag in the Makefile (known Hardy bug). Thing is, how do i get the source code ?
[09:43] <anand> again, cant get crossover/office2007 integrated with xubuntu
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> AdvoWork: sure
[09:43] <pepe_swash> Hello. Anyone made it possible to boot raid pendrive ubuntu?
[09:43] <chriswk> Rufus: the l for list format and the H for human-readable filesizes
[09:43] <ziroday> anand: you need to ask the crossover people about that
[09:43] <Rufus> chriswk: ls -IRH
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> AdvoWork: it means "redirect stdout and stderr to this file instead of outputting them to the screen"
[09:43] <ziroday> pepe_swash: you have raid, on a thumbdrive?
[09:43] <chriswk> Rufus: no, that's a lower case L
[09:43] <chriswk> Rufus and not an Upper case I
[09:44] <pepe_swash> ziroday: yes. but cannot boot.
[09:44] <Rufus> well, i don't care for the filesizes
[09:44] <ziroday> pepe_swash: I am somewhat certain you can't have a raid array on a thumbdrive
[09:44] <blinx> why the installation hangs on here: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/392760/ ?
[09:44] <chriswk> Rufus: Well, then try just the lowercase L
[09:44] <chriswk> as well as your R
[09:45] <Rufus> ls -lR ?
[09:45] <AdvoWork> SlimeyPete, i just ran the script with that in, set -x still outputs to the screen, and my log file is blank
[09:45] <blinx> I think it is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/277138 <-
[09:45] <chriswk> Rufus: yes
[09:45] <chriswk> well, that lists a bit much probably
[09:45] <subdolus> WolfHack: ^_^
[09:45] <pepe_swash> ziroday: i can boot a single live persistant, i can mount raid pendrives once booted any ubuntu (through mdadm), but cannot mix both..
[09:45] <blinx> I tried to install the hardy and gutsy version of the deb file -> same problem
[09:45] <WolfHack> ;o
[09:45] <WolfHack> hi ;]
[09:45] <Rufus> still not readable
[09:45] <Appi> volume is not working
[09:45] <Rufus> problem is there's no white space
[09:46] <Appi> anyone please help me, my ubuntu volume is not working
[09:46] <pepe_swash> ziroday: raid arays work on pendrives. pretty easy. i've done raid1, raid0 and Raid5 on them. But i cannot make them boot.
[09:46] <paul68> !patience |appi
[09:46] <Rufus> chriswk: I end up with .:
[09:46] <Rufus> total 60
[09:46] <Rufus> drwxr-xr-x 4 rufus admin 4096 2008-10-09 17:18 Big Train
[09:46] <Rufus> drwxr-xr-x 5 rufus admin 4096 2008-11-04 23:27 Black Books
[09:46] <Rufus> dr
[09:46] <FloodBot3> Rufus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <Rufus> but it's all on the one line
[09:47] <chriswk> Rufus: use the -1 parameter
[09:47] <chriswk> That's the number one (1)
[09:47] <chriswk> 1 file per line
[09:47] <Appi> sorry guys
[09:47] <chriswk> man ls is your friend
[09:47] <Rufus> so ls -lR1 > list.txt ?
[09:47] <anand> ziroday thanks, but they told me to ask the ubuntu people
[09:47] <chriswk> yeah, I'd try that
[09:47] <Rufus> sorry, I'm a total n00b
[09:47] <ziroday> anand: ah, what exactly is wrong?
[09:48] <cantmountMyBooku> hello i cant mount
[09:48] <cantmountMyBooku> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/My Book -o force
[09:48] <ziroday> pepe_swash: raid arrays need two drivers, how on earth do you have two drives on a thumbdrive?
[09:48] <cantmountMyBooku> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/My Book -o force
[09:48] <Rufus> thanks for the help chriswk
[09:48] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: you need err /media/My\ Book I think
[09:48] <cantmountMyBooku> i force still no luck
[09:48] <Rufus> I think it's just notepad being stupid
[09:48] <woody86> is there any way to tell what the temp sensors are on in my computer? Like I have ACPI Thermal Zone: TZ01 and TZ02?
[09:48] <chriswk> Rufus: you're welcome
[09:48] <Rufus> works in wordpad oky
[09:48] <chriswk> well that's no surprise :)
[09:49] <Rufus> dumb windows
[09:49] <cantmountMyBooku> but the ubuntu message does not tell me
[09:49] <chriswk> Use SciTe ;)
[09:49] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: err try mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/MyBook -o force
[09:49] <anand> ziroday: running xubuntu 8.10. crossover 7.01, MS office 2007. can't set the file associations. applications>other shortcunts dont work
[09:49] <marek_> hi, what is the best tool to recover data from ext2 partition with bad superblock?
[09:50] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: sorry I meant mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/My\ Book -o force
[09:50] <AdvoWork> SlimeyPete,  i dont need to do: set -x then &>/path/to/my/logfile.log do i?
[09:50] <ziroday> anand: you would best ask the xubuntu folks about that in #xubuntu
[09:50] <cantmountMyBooku> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/MyBook -o force
[09:50] <cantmountMyBooku> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[09:50] <cantmountMyBooku> WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.
[09:50] <cantmountMyBooku> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/MyBook: No such file or directory
[09:50] <FloodBot3> cantmountMyBooku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <Myrtti> cantmountMyBooku: please use pastebin
[09:50] <cantmountMyBooku> ok
[09:50] <cantmountMyBooku> sorry
[09:50] <Appi> How should I check whether my system volume is working or not? because when I login, I couldnt hear login music
[09:51] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: that was a mistake, did you try the second command I gave you?
[09:51] <ziroday> Appi: you can play a music file
[09:51] <bouma> what do i need to get this ???
[09:51] <bouma> http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=appsinkonquerorpf1.png
[09:51] <cantmountMyBooku> um which one is 2nd?
[09:51] <bouma> please help
[09:51] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: sorry I meant mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/My\ Book -o force
[09:51] <bouma> thats a picture of a program i want.. i need to have it..
[09:51] <bouma> :P
[09:51] <Appi> ziroday: I dont have any music file.
[09:51] <ziroday> bouma: thats konqueror
[09:51] <anand> running xubuntu 8.10. crossover 7.01, MS office 2007. can't set the file associations. applications>other shortcuts dont work
[09:52] <pepe_swash> ziroday: easy. with two thumbdrives. :)
[09:52] <bouma> ziroday: what do i install to get it ??
[09:52] <ziroday> Appi: Look in your home folder, under Examples
[09:52] <ardchoille> bouma: that is a picture of the konqueror file manager in filesize mode
[09:52] <bouma> ziroday: do i have to go kubuntu ???
[09:52] <ziroday> bouma: one sec
[09:52] <bouma> ziroday: can i just emerge it and keep running gnome ibex as usual ??
[09:52] <ziroday> bouma: you can install it with the command sudo apt-get install konqueror.
[09:52] <woody86> can I change my wireless adapter from eth2 to wlan0?
[09:52] <Some_ux> I have the following problem, I am trying to connect a Hardy Server to the Net, via a cable modem which uses L2TP. I installed xl2tp (since i think it is still maintain by the openSwan folks while l2tp is no longer looked after).  The problem is that there are two bugs in the xl2tp distro for Hardy (show stoppers). To fix them I need to recompile the xl2tp code, but i have never done that....
[09:53] <Some_ux> ...Any help will be appreciated.
[09:53] <ziroday> bouma: its just a file manager, you can keep running gnome just fine
[09:53] <cantmountMyBooku> http://paste.ubuntu.com/68776/
[09:53] <cantmountMyBooku> here ia aint working
[09:53] <ziroday> woody86: not easily why?
[09:53] <bouma> ziroday: linux is teh awesome :)
[09:53] <Appi> ziroday:  Oh, I am not able hear any music
[09:53] <bouma> ziroday: only 12meg :)
[09:53] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: okay can you do this please, sudo mkdir /media/mybook
[09:53] <woody86> ziroday- I was just curious, and it always used to be wlan0, but for some reason it changed?
[09:54] <Appi> ziroday:  I played a song, but no audio output
[09:54] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: and then sudo chmod ugo=rwx /media/mybook ; mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/mybook -o forc
[09:54] <cantmountMyBooku> i am using a live CD now to rescue my files
[09:54] <cantmountMyBooku> My Book
[09:54] <ziroday> woody86: different drivers name it different things :(
[09:54] <ziroday> *:)
[09:54] <cantmountMyBooku> with a space
[09:54] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: did you try the three commands I gave you?
[09:55] <woody86> ziroday- ah, ok
[09:55] <cantmountMyBooku> yes i am doing it
[09:55] <cantmountMyBooku> i am using a live CD now to rescue my files
[09:55] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: great :)
[09:55] <Appi> ziroday: busy?
[09:55] <strk> is there a reason why the Adobe Flex SDK isnt' packaged in Ubuntu Hardy ? Will it be in Intrepid ?
[09:56] <cantmountMyBooku> with a space My Book yes or no????
[09:56] <ziroday> Appi: sorry, forgot about you. Err what sound card do you have?
[09:56] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: no space
[09:56] <ziroday> cantmountMyBooku: and no capitals either
[09:56] <ikonia> apiis the volume up on your speakers
[09:56] <ikonia> appi even
[09:57] <Appi> ziroday: not a problem, How should I view my sound card
[09:57] <Appi> ikonia: yeah
[09:57] <ikonia> Appi how did you test ?
[09:57] <Appi> played a music which is in home/ Example
[09:57] <ikonia> Appi then your speakers are working /??
[09:57] <ikonia> Appi: so what's the problem
[09:58] <cantmountMyBooku> what a crap its just no capital and no space but the stupid ubuntu message that pops up for advice gives total unhelpful advice '*
[09:58] <patrik> Hi, after upgrading to 8.10 my network is screwed up. The Network Manager only show a ifupdown on each NIC. I have made quite a few modifications to /etc/network/interfaces so the problem is surely there. Can I somehow restore the interfaces file with a working standard?
[09:58] <Appi> ikonia:  I am not able to hear music
[09:58] <ardchoille> What was the thing in Intrepid where you could make an encrypted folder at ~/.Private ?
[09:58] <ikonia> Appi you just said you where, thats how you tested your speakers
[09:58] <ziroday> ikonia: I think he means that he played an audio file in ~/Examples and didn't hear any music
[09:58] <cantmountMyBooku> thanks its working now
[09:58] <ikonia> ziroday then thats not a test for the speakers, which was my question
[09:59] <ziroday> !encrypted | ardchoille
[09:59] <Appi> ikonia: I mean its  playing the music with no audio output
[09:59] <ardchoille> ziroday: That's it, thanks :)
[09:59] <ikonia> Appi ok - so how have you checked your speakers volume is turned up?
[10:00]  * strk answering self about flex sdk : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11371/
[10:00] <ikonia> !offtopic > strk
[10:00] <Appi> ikonia: in the panel
[10:00] <vildent> is somebody here who can help me to set up an openvpn server on ubuntu ?
[10:01] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve this problem with `aptitude update`? "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]"
[10:01] <Appi> ikonia:  I see system volume is set to 56%
[10:01] <ziroday> vlt: did you try a different repo?
[10:01] <ikonia> Appi thats pretty reasonable,
[10:01] <erki> !openvpn | vildent
[10:02] <Appi> ikonia: then how should I test?
[10:03] <Appi> ikonia: I mean How should I check
[10:03] <Kira[work]> testing
[10:03] <ziroday> Kira[work]: we can see you, please test in #test
[10:04] <Kira[work]> there's a #test!? I never knew. o.o
[10:06] <mabus> any ideas why whenever I am getting  apackage from ubuntu.com it slows down to 6kbps shortly after starting the dl?
[10:06] <Appi> ikonia: busy?
[10:06] <vlt> ziroday: Yes: "Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 141.76.2.131 80]"
[10:07] <ziroday> vlt: try doing sudo apt-get clean
[10:07] <vlt> ziroday: already did that.
[10:07] <ziroday> vlt: well then I'm out of ideas :)
[10:07] <Jose> hola
[10:08] <Jose> alguien habla español??
[10:08] <ziroday> !es | Jose
[10:10] <Jose> tanks
[10:11] <brad1> wow .. this channel is cruising
[10:11] <brad1> everybody's problems been solved?
[10:11] <Kira[work]> How do I go about listing, with ownership and permission information all *.php files recursively down a directory?
[10:11] <vlt> There's a more detailed err msg: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[10:12] <vlt> 0  Dir::State::lists=lists/ Config-Item: Dir::State::cdroms=cdroms.list Config-Item: Dir::State::userstatus=status.user Config-Item: Dir::State::status=/var/lib/dpkg/status Config-Item: Dir::Cache=var/cache/apt/ Config-Item: Dir::Cache::archives=archives/ Config-Item: Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache=srcpkgcache.bin Config-Item: Dir::Cache::pkgcache=pkgcache.bin Config [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[10:12] <xstasi> ls -lR
[10:12] <vlt> Any idea?
[10:12] <xstasi> or..
[10:12] <oz6oh> hello friends
[10:12] <Appi> ikonia: are you there?
[10:12] <xstasi> find . -name '*.php' -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l
[10:12] <xstasi> have fun :P
[10:12] <lalaland> anyone uses awn?
[10:13] <oz6oh> somebody here?
[10:13] <Mal3ko> ls -l *.php
[10:13] <oz6oh> writing from denmark
[10:13] <Kira[work]> Mal3ko: doesn't that list only *.php files in the present directory?
[10:14] <Kira[work]> xstasi: that method doesn't feed well into the "less" program, though, right?
[10:14] <xstasi> why not?
[10:15] <xstasi> add a "| less" on the end
[10:15] <mdalek> pipe it into less
[10:15] <mehrab> hey guys
[10:15] <Kira[work]> ooooooo
[10:15] <Gigantor_> hi
[10:16] <mehrab> I have problem installing flashplugin, after downloading files, it says MDFsum is mismatched, why?
[10:16] <ziroday> lalaland: yes, whats wrong?
[10:16] <mehrab> I meant MD5sum
[10:16] <lalaland> ziroday: i'm trying to add Firefox as launcher..but doesn't work.
[10:16] <lalaland> icon doesnt show up or anything
[10:16] <bullgard4> In /home/<username>/.bashrc 'rc' seems to stand for 'run commands' although this is no executable and does not run any commands. Why has this 'rc' been chosen?
[10:16] <Kira[work]> I only ever knew the -exec option of find
[10:17] <pietro_> hello guys, I have a questio .. I got up and runnuning ubuntu on my macbook c2d .. I have ahteros ar5418 that works properly with the new opensource driver ath9k
[10:17] <mehrab> none of you had problem installing flashplugin in 8.10 ?
[10:17] <pietro_> the question is .. will it work with aircrak-ng ? or will I have to replace it with madwifi-ng driver to make aircrack-ng works ?
[10:18] <ziroday> lalaland: I see the same thing here, ask in #awn
[10:18] <lalaland> ty
[10:19] <pietro_> no idea ?
[10:22] <RandomCake> Hi, I've got a multi boot system running Ubuntu and windows and I've just purchased an upgrade hard drive, what's the best way to clone my current drive onto the new one byte for byte (including the MBR)?
[10:22] <ziroday> !cloning | RandomCake
[10:22] <ziroday> woops that wasn't what you needed RandomCake
[10:23] <RandomCake> lol, nope, not quite :)
[10:23] <ziroday> RandomCake: look into err clonezilla
[10:23] <ziroday> that should do what you want
[10:26] <RandomCake> okay, will have a look, thanks ziroday :)
[10:26] <ziroday> RandomCake: have fun
[10:27] <RandomCake> looks perfect! Thank you :D
[10:29] <Gigantor_> should i install xen on my ubuntu system or is xen dead?
[10:29] <waan> What happened to the flurry screensaver in intrepid?
[10:29] <waan> it was the best
[10:29] <ziroday> Gigabit: xen is still very much alive, also take a look at openvz
[10:30] <xerath> If I've managed to mess up file permissions (i.e. /etc/sudoers is not 0444 and not 0440), is there any other way to gain root access, or do I have to reinstall?
[10:30] <xerath> *its 0440
[10:30] <xerath> err.. its NOT 0440, its 0444.
[10:30] <ziroday> waan: install the package xscreensaver-date-extra
[10:31] <Gigantor_> how do i install kde or xen without cannibalization of the fast user switcher?
[10:32] <ziroday> Gigantor_: err I don't think FUSA works in kde at all
[10:32] <Gigantor_> yeah i know
[10:33] <Gigantor_> but adfter i installed kde using synaptic it caniibalized fusa next time i tried to use gnome
[10:34] <lalaland> hi. trying to mount a drive in fstab. is this right? /dev/sdb1       /mnt/Shared      ntfs-3g     auto quiet,auto,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,umask=0   0 0
[10:34] <oz6oh> hello here is a ubuntu fan
[10:36] <oz6oh> why can i not use cheese with ubuntu 8.10  working well with ubuntu 8.04 ?
[10:37] <oz6oh> i think some drivers are differnts?
[10:37] <ziroday> oz6oh: I'll try to help, what webcam do you have?
[10:37] <WIGGMPk> Just had to reinstall Hardy Heron amd64 because my hard drive went. Anyway, I am having two problems, my usplash theme is not working just see a blank (black) screen with an "_" at the top left, and after booting up to the login screen I see a few sets of lines like equals signs "=" sometimes with a third line on the top of the screen. Any thoughts???
[10:37] <ardchoille> !pdf > me
[10:38] <oz6oh> ziroday  creaative only with usb no drivers
[10:38] <oz6oh> therefore i go bach to 8.04
[10:38] <ziroday> oz6oh: can you pastebin the output of lsusb please
[10:39] <oz6oh> oh man i am newbeginner but plese wait maybe i can  be patient
[10:39] <ziroday> oz6oh: no problem :)
[10:40] <ziroday> oz6oh: do you know how to pastebin?
[10:40] <oz6oh> oz6oh@oz6oh:~$ lspci
[10:40] <oz6oh> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 03)
[10:40] <oz6oh> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
[10:40] <oz6oh> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40)
[10:40] <oz6oh> 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
[10:40] <FloodBot3> oz6oh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <oz6oh> 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1a)
[10:41] <ziroday> !pastebin | oz6oh
[10:41] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve this problem with `aptitude update`? "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]"
[10:41] <vlt> There's a more detailed err msg: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[10:41] <vlt> 0  Dir::State::lists=lists/ Config-Item: Dir::State::cdroms=cdroms.list Config-Item: Dir::State::userstatus=status.user Config-Item: Dir::State::status=/var/lib/dpkg/status Config-Item: Dir::Cache=var/cache/apt/ Config-Item: Dir::Cache::archives=archives/ Config-Item: Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache=srcpkgcache.bin Config-Item: Dir::Cache::pkgcache=pkgcache.bin Config [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[10:41] <vlt> Any idea?
[10:41] <oz6oh> all here muss first learn to work here hi hi
[10:42] <subdolus> anyone able to give me a link to a thread or guide explaining how to create an Ad-Hoc connection in ubuntu while working around the graphical network configuration tool in the tray?
[10:42] <subdolus> ad-hoc wifi that is
[10:42] <ziroday> subdolus: whats wrong with nm-applet (the network thingy in the tray)
[10:44] <ziroday> !private | oz6oh please don't PM me
[10:45] <sschaefer> -.-
[10:45] <oz6oh> now i am bach on ubuntuchannel
[10:45] <ziroday> oz6oh: did you pastebin that information I asked for?
[10:45] <belim> i am trying to migrate from a 200gb disk to a 120gb disk. I am only using 16gb currently. what is the best way to switch ?
[10:45] <ziroday> belim: just move your entire system across?
[10:45] <Jakob_the_liar> i cant install extensions with firefox
[10:45] <oz6oh> ziroday manu new things to learn  hi hi
[10:45] <Jakob_the_liar> does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it?
[10:45] <ziroday> oz6oh: hi
[10:45] <oz6oh> first time i am working here
[10:46] <belim> how ? i tried to use a disk cloner cd and it said it couldnt do it so whats the best way to do it?
[10:46] <ziroday> !backup | belim
[10:46] <Frogzoo> Jakob_the_liar: how odd - what did you break?
[10:46] <ziroday> belim: and then restore it on your new disk
[10:46] <Jakob_the_liar> no idea
[10:46] <oz6oh> ubtto i must learn about pastbin  hi hi
[10:47] <oz6oh> my englich is not specially good
[10:47] <Jahman> hi
[10:47] <Frogzoo> !pastebin
[10:47] <oz6oh> normally i write in german language
[10:47] <sschaefer> belim: Easiest way is to boot a live/rescue cd, create new partionts on new disc , rsync, write grub. thats's all
[10:47] <ziroday> oz6oh: you can ask people who speak german in #ubuntu-de, it might be easier for you
[10:48] <belim> nice one, thanks :)
[10:48] <subdolus> ziroday: well I can't figure out how to use it to create an ad-hoc connection without any security (WEP, WPA, etc.)
[10:48] <ziroday> subdolus: you are using intrepid?
[10:48] <oz6oh> ubottu ok i must learn more about this
[10:48] <subdolus> and to then forward pakets from the other end of the ad-hoc thru this computer na dout another interface
[10:48] <subdolus> ziroday: what's intepid?
[10:49] <Gnea> !intrepid
[10:49] <ziroday> subdolus: are you using version 8.10 of ubuntu?
[10:49] <oz6oh> all  oz6oh stands fore my radioamateur call
[10:49] <samu> #xubuntu
[10:49] <samu> sdf
[10:49] <subdolus> ziroday: nope, Hardy
[10:49] <ziroday> subdolus: ah okay. you might want to do it through System > Administration > Network
[10:49] <belim> sschaefer: I was going to do that. But I dont know how to redo grub in in ubuntu.
[10:50] <belim> grub etc*
[10:50] <mikel_knight> ciaop
[10:51] <oz6oh> all here i try to find something about the bin
[10:51] <oz6oh> maybee in help??
[10:51] <samu> join #xubuntu
[10:51] <legend2440> !pastebin
[10:51] <ziroday> samu: you have to do /join #xubuntu
[10:51] <Gnea> oz6oh: you don't have to say "all" or anything like that, anyone that's here can read you just fine :)
[10:52] <oz6oh> ubotto thanks i try to find something
[10:52] <Gnea> oz6oh: this forum is quite informal
[10:52] <subdolus> ziroday: hmmm every time I try use admin -> network it tells me the interface doesnt exist, after selecting it and clicking configure
[10:52] <ziroday> oz6oh: you might find it easier asking your question in your native language in #ubuntu-de
[10:52] <oz6oh> all bye bye and thanks i must learn more
[10:53] <oz6oh> ziroday ok and thanks
[10:53] <ziroday> subdolus: what network card do you have?
[10:53] <subdolus> atheros
[10:54] <subdolus> ziroday: should I use roaming profiles with nm-applet just to set up a 2 person adhoc network?
[10:54] <subdolus> and then edit the important parts with iwconfig and ifconfig
[10:54] <subdolus> ?
[10:55] <computer_> is ubuntu studio trust worthy?
[10:55] <computer_> can i trust ubuntu studio?
[10:55] <Gnea> computer_: define 'trust'
[10:55] <ardchoille> Gnea: hehe
[10:56] <computer_> is it as safe as ubuntu?
[10:56] <Gnea> safe?
[10:56] <Gnea> safe for what?
[10:56] <Gnea> computer_: please try to avoid vague questions
[10:58] <rand0m> just updated to 8.10 - flash videos are choppy and play like skipping dvds.
[10:58] <rand0m> aaand internet seems much slower than when on xp partition
[10:59] <ardchoille> rand0m: have you got a lot of firefox plugins/extensions loaded?
[10:59] <rand0m> not to my knowledge
[10:59] <rand0m> could be wrong though.. i'm not great with linux yet
[11:00] <ardchoille> rand0m: well, you would have had to install them so you would know
[11:00] <computer_> i am using ubuntu, how to i upgrade to ubuntu studio in command line?
[11:01] <rand0m> ardchoille, like I said, I'm not great with this stuff.  there were times in the past I've come in here for flash web support for ubuntu 8.04 and perhaps multiple peoples help caused contradicting plugins? i don't know
[11:02] <Some_ux> I need some help rebuilding a 8.04 Package
[11:02] <carlinhos> hi everybody! can someone help me with this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:03] <Gnea> computer_: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[11:03] <Some_ux> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/xl2tpd , what are the .desc and .diff files for ?
[11:03] <Cheef> hello brothers
[11:03] <Cheef> is there anyone how can help me?
[11:03] <computer_> thanks
[11:03] <Gnea> Cheef: not unless you tell us what your problem is
[11:03] <pioSko> quick question... i saw upgrades available in my update manager... are those updates automatically included in the current CD image available to download?
[11:04] <pioSko> *CD image from ubuntu website
[11:04] <ardchoille> pioSko: no
[11:04] <ardchoille> pioSko: but they're just a sudo apt-get upgrade away
[11:04] <pioSko> yeah that's the thing
[11:05] <ardchoille> pioSko: what you're thinking of is called a "re spin" and it's rare
[11:05] <Cheef> what is the best linux that i can use on pc (384Mb Ram , Pentium 3 , 1 GigaHz) ?
[11:05] <Myrtti> Cheef: you're asking in a biased channel ;-)
[11:05] <ardchoille> Cheef: ubuntu should work fine
[11:05] <pioSko> i t downloads the upgrade... unpacks them .. but then  freezes on "processing triggers in mad-db"
[11:05] <pioSko> and it doesn't complete the upgrade
[11:05] <Cheef> what version of ubuntu?
[11:05] <Gnea> Cheef: elivecd or xubuntu
[11:05] <pioSko> this is the second time that's happened
[11:06] <Cheef> ubuntu 8.10 can't work on it?
[11:06] <Gnea> Cheef: well, you asked for 'best'
[11:06] <Gnea> yes, it can work on it, but it'll be slow
[11:06] <Yarborea> ﻿Cheef I'm sure that will be fine. Iinstalled Hardy on an old 233 with 128 RAM and 10G HD - it wasn't the fastest system ever built but it did work.
[11:06] <paul68> Gnea: Do you know something about iptables?
[11:06] <Cheef> xubuntu is like ubuntu 8.10 ?
[11:06] <Gnea> paul68: just ask the question
[11:06] <ardchoille> Cheef: I'm using ubuntu Hardy on a P3 in the other room and it's fine. The installed system will be much faster than the livecd
[11:07] <Gnea> !xubuntu | Cheef
[11:07] <pioSko> ardchoille: is there a command to continue or fix an uncomplete upgrade?
[11:07] <ardchoille> pioSko: I don't know, never had that happen
[11:07] <Gnea> Cheef: and of course, www.elivecd.org
[11:07] <pioSko> ok.. thanks
[11:07] <Yarborea> I like Xubuntu better in many ways but I like to use the more mainstream version so I have the most common experiences.
[11:07] <Cheef> i will try xubuntu now
[11:08] <Cheef> tnx for help
[11:08] <Gnea> pioSko: sudo apt-get -f install  or  sudo dpkg -configure -a
[11:08] <Cheef> Bye evrybody i will download xubuntu now
[11:08] <ardchoille> Cheef: the great thing about Linux is you can install a distro, then use one of several desktops or window managers
[11:08] <pioSko> Gnea: Thank you.. I'll try that
[11:09] <carlinhos> hi everybody! can someone help me with this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:09] <EatShrooms> how can I join the ubuntu off topic channel?
[11:09]  * werdnus waves
[11:09] <Cheef> i forgot , there is my 3d modem huawei e220 can be instaled on xubuntu?
[11:09] <EatShrooms> hi werdnus
[11:09] <ardchoille> EatShrooms: type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <werdnus> what is uppeth?
[11:09] <marshal0505> EatShrooms: /join #channelname
[11:09] <shiki9> do you guys think ubuntu server is good enough for a production environment
[11:09] <EatShrooms> hivemind
[11:09] <missille> hi whatsup?
[11:10] <vforb> hi everyone i have 1 stupid question :P how i active and see my 3d cube in ubuntu (the last vesion)
[11:10] <EatShrooms> thanks guys
[11:10] <ardchoille> shiki9: ubuntu server is _made_ for production environments
[11:10] <SiDi> Hi everyone
[11:10] <EatShrooms> yo, what's up SiDi
[11:11] <missille> got a question: how to mount a vista partition when ubuntu cant access it
[11:11] <SiDi> Is it possible to manage rights on a NTFS-3G partition on which system is installed (note that i'm not the one who did this :! :p)
[11:11] <SiDi> Especially umask
[11:11] <Cheef> i forgot , there is my 3d modem huawei e220 can be instaled on xubuntu?
[11:11] <werdnus> !ntfs | SiDi
[11:11] <werdnus> !ntfs | missille
[11:11] <blackgraz> missille: you have ntfs support enabled?
[11:11] <shiki9> archoille:nice. don't have to worry about installing backports in debian
[11:11] <missille> got windows 7 partition to force mount but not my vista?
[11:11] <TheAncientGoat> Get compiz fusion
[11:11] <paul68> Gnea:  the first part I understand meaning portforwading 20 and 21 to ip 10.20.2.22 but what does the 1.2.3.4 mean ? <-NAT_xxx_FORWARD="20,21>10.20.2.22 1.2.3.4:81>10.20.2.23:80"
[11:11] <missille> yeps
[11:11] <simplexio> SiDi: umask option when mounting
[11:11] <SiDi> werdnus: the question is about right management. correct me if im wrong but i think its not possible
[11:11] <blackgraz> sudo fdisk -i
[11:12] <blackgraz> or is it sudo fdisk -l
[11:12] <Yarborea> ﻿missille you got one of those pre betas ?
[11:12] <PeterB> I'm having the Ibex Apache2 VirtualHost problem, where all but the first virtualhost is ignored
[11:12] <missille> yeah
[11:12] <PeterB> Is there a fix for this? Google and playing around havent' found one
[11:12] <SiDi> blackgraz: -l
[11:12] <vforb> hi everyone i have 1 stupid question :P how i active and see my 3d cube in ubuntu (the last vesion) pls :)
[11:12] <sken> hello ubu guys
[11:12] <missille> and I think it locked up all my disks
[11:12] <simplexio> SiDi: you can define rights when you mount partition, but only partition wide
[11:12] <blackgraz> SiDi: i should know that since i work on linux/BSD servers all day
[11:12] <Yarborea> ﻿missille yeah I've read nothing but bad impressions so far
[11:13] <sinnn> howdy...any network peoples online
[11:13] <Yarborea> I hope it turns out significantly better than that LOL
[11:13] <SiDi> alright simplexio thanks
[11:13] <Gnea> paul68: I don't even know what program you're using to set those rules up with
[11:13] <missille> the weird thing is that it boots from grub that is located on that partition
[11:13] <paul68> iptables
[11:13] <paul68> Gnea: iptables
[11:14] <missille> but vistas recovery disk wont find vista on it
[11:14] <Yarborea> ﻿missille yeah I read it won't use mbr type pointers - will boot more like macs do
[11:14] <Gnea> paul68: no, you're typing those into a script which uses iptables
[11:14] <ardchoille> Gnea: trying to set up a firewall?
[11:14] <Gnea> paul68: or you're getting that information from some sort of logfile that i've never seen the format of
[11:14] <Gnea> ardchoille: paul68 is
[11:14] <ardchoille> ok
[11:15] <knoppix> any K3b experience I can copy from here?
[11:15] <missille> so any kind of advise how to force mount or something
[11:16] <missille> need my pictures from vista :-)
[11:16] <knoppix> missille force mount, that sounds cool, but isn't burning on dvd's more important?
[11:16] <paul68> Gnea: well I have a large script from this site http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/
[11:16] <knoppix> you have been down the road vista... amazing
[11:16] <jin> is this just me or firefox 3.1 IS  faster? I think it render webpages a lot faster when I enable the JIT thing
[11:16] <carlinhos> hi everybody! can someone help me with this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:16] <Yarborea> ﻿﻿missille no idea the scare stories have worked on me and I stayed away.
[11:17] <missille> oh u mean backups? yeah just meant to make that but waited ofcourse until everything is completely stuck
[11:17] <computer_> how do i install the package list that comes with ubuntu studio?
[11:17] <paul68> Gnea: this is the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/68806/
[11:17] <computer_> how do i install the package list that comes with ubuntu studio into my ubuntu?
[11:18] <missille> the weirdest that i could force mount the other hdd but not vistas partition and they had "the same problem"
[11:18] <paul68> ardchoille: if you could help me aswell it's much appreciated
[11:19] <computer_> how do i set my sound/volume settings back to default mode?
[11:19] <ardchoille> paul68: are you trying to set up a firewall?
[11:19] <paul68> ardchoille: yes I do
[11:19] <ardchoille> paul68: The easiest way to do that is to install and use Firestarter: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:20] <ardchoille> paul68: it's a gui and walks you through setting things up, really easy.. my 8 year old neice loved it :)
[11:20] <Gnea> paul68: 1.2.3.4 is some internet ip
[11:20] <knoppix> why is it impossible however necessary to chmod 777 mounted entities when using a live CD, how can I do so anyway?
[11:20] <paul68> ardchoille: I only have terminal on my server
[11:20] <samu> I have just installed xubuntu 8.10 at the first HD in my computer. It is working fine, but it doesnt recognize neither the other HDs or the local network. What can I do? Someone can help me?
[11:20] <sinnn> i am using hardy to manage my network (xp network) and al of a sudden this morning i booted everything up and got a duplicate name error n my  machines...any idead..been running it fine since the begining of the year..need help!!
[11:21] <Gnea> paul68: do you have a desktop ubuntu on another computer?
[11:21] <ardchoille> paul68: Ah, then firestarter won't help.. and iptables can be a bear to learn
[11:21] <paul68> Gnea:  yes I do
[11:21] <knoppix> now I know why sometimes people are kicked from channels
[11:21] <Gnea> paul68: then you can export the display of firestarter to your desktop without installing X on your server
[11:21] <mdalek> paul68: what is the problem with that script it has comments :p
[11:21] <knoppix> my majorly important question got scrolled out of here quicker than a snowflake on the suns surface
[11:22] <knoppix> why is it impossible however necessary to chmod 777 mounted entities when using a live CD, how can I do so anyway?
[11:22] <paul68> ardchoille:  no kidding but I'm learning  and I try to get it figured out
[11:22] <Gnea> paul68: or you can stick with the commandline, it's up to you
[11:23] <paul68> mdalek: I know it has comments but there are still things I try to understand and convert to my situation
[11:23] <paul68> Gnea: ok thanks
[11:24] <PeoplesAdvocate> I have a questin that many of you might know as a basic. I was wondering how to list the hidden folders through the terminal?
[11:24] <werdnus> PeoplesAdvocate: ls -a
[11:24] <SiDi> PeoplesAdvocate: ls -a
[11:24] <SiDi> well..
[11:25] <PeoplesAdvocate> thanks i really appreciate it. still tryna learn my way around the terminal
[11:26] <sinnn> if anyone has a clue pm me
[11:26] <werdnus> sinnn: you won't get many pms
[11:26] <werdnus> what are you after?
[11:26] <unop> knoppix, what are you trying to do? change permissions of the mount point or the volume itself?
[11:26] <sinnn> help
[11:27] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting
[11:27] <root> hi
[11:28] <sinnn> trying to figure out why all of a sudden all my pcs started teling me there is a duplicate name on my network
[11:28] <ardchoille> |neon|: this is a dumb question but are you talking about the livecd?
[11:28] <Guest62523> what
[11:28] <SiDi> !mount @ samu
[11:28] <Guest62523> what?
[11:28] <knoppix> unop just trying to use it, I need w permission
[11:29] <paul68> mdalek: can you help me out?
[11:29] <knoppix> I think from the mount point itself, what is the difference, I need to burn so thevolume itself needs to be changed permission of
[11:29] <|neon|> ardchoille: no i have intrepid installed to my hd
[11:29] <Ayabara> is there a way to get separate wallpapers on a dual screen system?
[11:29] <ardchoille> |neon|: ok
[11:31] <knoppix> unop
[11:32] <Gnea> paul68: it's pretty straight forward as to how to forward a port - what ports are you trying to forward?
[11:32] <Paavi2_0> is there a way to make nm-connection-editor not forget the ip/mask/gateway/dns settings on individual interfaces?
[11:32] <Paavi2_0> on intrepid, that is
[11:33] <Gnea> Paavi2_0: make it static
[11:33] <Paavi2_0> Gnea: it's static, but some settings get lost on reboot :(
[11:33] <paul68> Gnea:  I need to forward a few ports since all ports under 1024 are blocked, but I have no Idea how to do this and where to put it in this script  [11:33] <Paavi2_0> Gnea: no dhcp used
[11:34] <Gnea> Paavi2_0: not sure then
[11:35] <paul68> Gnea: for arguments sake port 33333 to port 21 from the outside to my server 10.20.2.22
[11:35] <Paavi2_0> maybe i should file a bug then, or remove networkmanager altogether
[11:35] <Gnea> paul68: that's a port re-map, not a port forward.  port forwarding means that you're 'forwarding' the same port to another host
[11:36] <unop> knoppix, it's still unclear what you are trying to do, if you're trying to burn a CD, your CD burning software should take care of that.
[11:36] <Gnea> paul68: but yes, according to that script, it can be done...
[11:37] <knoppix> unop it doesn't give me a go because some specifications are still not certain
[11:37] <Gnea> paul68: if your internet ip is 1.2.3.4, it's be like:  1.2.3.4:33333>10.20.2.22:21
[11:38] <paul68> Gnea: I know I don't know much about this and I need to see an example which I can use to implement. but my internets ip can be different how do I interact to make it work then
[11:38] <PeoplesAdvocate> I also have a questin about port forwarding. I have VSFTPD installed and i was wondernig how can i connect like this (ex. domain.com:23456 to xxx.xxx.x.xxx:20-21)?
[11:38] <Gnea> paul68: you'd have to write some sort of function into the script to get the latest ip and place it there
[11:38] <paul68> Gnea: I use a dyndns account to connect from outside my network onto my server
[11:39] <mister_> hallo.. how can i resume an screen process ? thanks
[11:39] <paul68> Gnea: since I'm here with 2 left hands I,m in more then the complete darkness here
[11:39] <Gnea> paul68: well, it has a provision to use static or dynamic ip information in the script, perhaps you should ask arno himself
[11:40] <paul68> Gnea: I already did but still waiting for a reply
[11:40] <Gnea> paul68: okay, i'm not sure what else to suggest then
[11:40] <paul68> Gnea: states a delay of 2 weeks before answering
[11:41] <siccness> ok
[11:41] <siccness> so has problems?
[11:41] <paul68> Gnea: it's ok I'm glad you took the time to try and help me out
[11:41] <siccness> the big chief is here to assist
[11:41] <paul68> PeoplesAdvocate: you need to do a portforwarding on your router towards the internal port
[11:42] <j2daosh> ok guys, 2 problems. I have been testing everything on my new install and I see that i dont have wireless, and i need the 232codecs package but i cant find it. so, anyone got a tut on the wireless and know the new package name for w32codecs?
[11:42] <paul68> j2daosh: which version of ubuntu?
[11:42] <j2daosh> 8.10
[11:42] <Gnea> !codecs | j2daosh
[11:43] <hateball> j2daosh♂ Is it 64bit?
[11:43] <paul68> j2daosh: do you see the driver in the hardware section
[11:43] <j2daosh> nope
[11:43] <j2daosh> its like ubuntu doesn't think its there
[11:43] <paul68> j2daosh: system > administration > hardware drivers?  which drivers broadcom or atheros?
[11:44] <j2daosh> it says atheros
[11:44] <j2daosh> and that the driver is activated and currently in use....?
[11:45] <woody86> how do you make the degree symbol? like *
[11:45] <paul68> j2daosh: if you click on your wireless icon in the taskbar can you select hidden wireless networks?
[11:46] <j2daosh> i dont have a wireless icon
[11:46] <dumb_dumb> guys need help
[11:46] <j2daosh> :(
[11:46] <paul68> j2daosh: sorry ment network icon
[11:46] <dumb_dumb> after installing the new kernel my wifi is not working anymore
[11:46] <dumb_dumb> any idea ?
[11:46] <paul68> j2daosh: the one closer to the clock
[11:46] <j2daosh> network icon just refers to eth0 (the wired connection)
[11:47] <j2daosh> wait...
[11:47] <Gnea> !wireless
[11:47] <j2daosh> there is eth0 and right below that "no carrier"
[11:47] <j2daosh> is that referring to the wired or the wireless (the no carrier part)
[11:48] <sken> Does anybody has any idea why my pc deosn't open my wireless network when i hibernate or suspend?
[11:48] <Skry^> dumb_dumb, atheros cars?
[11:48] <Skry^> card :P
[11:48] <paul68> j2daosh: dunno but check out the link the bot just gave you
[11:48] <siccness> atheros is the key
[11:48] <j2daosh> ok, nevermind. i guess the icon is showing for the wireless and not the wired
[11:49] <[c0re]> can anyone help me with conky?
[11:50] <dumb_dumb> so what my problems then?
[11:50] <dumb_dumb> i`m using madwifi on my atheros
[11:51] <Iradieh_> in the .lircrc file there are options such as delay and repeat, is it possible to add these to the Lircmap.xml? Like Repeat 5 Ddoes Y while Repeat 10 does X. So one button can do many things depending on how many times you push it.
[11:51] <sken> ?
[11:51] <Skry^> dumb_dumb, if youre running 8.10 then sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[11:53] <dumb_dumb> Skry can I do it on my old kernel
[11:53] <dumb_dumb> or i have to do it on the new kerjnel
[11:54] <sken> Does anybody has any idea why my pc deosn't open my wireless network when i hibernate or suspend?
[11:55] <Skry^> dumb_dumb,  just do it
[11:57] <rangel> sken: I have the same problem here. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and my wireless card does not work after a hibernation/suspend. Does anybody have a clue?
[11:58] <punzada> does anyone know where compiz puts it config file by default on ubuntu? I've just given myself a real mess, also if you know how I can get output of which x displays are currently active through the terminal (by name) that may help as well
[11:58] <sken> yeah dude the same too
[11:58] <Zannyuk> hi, new noob here so please be gentle, im trying to setup samba so i can access some windows shares and when i try to save the edited samba config file it says permission denied but im the only user on the system.  so what do i do to fix this (im sure simple for you lot lol) issue?
[11:59] <j2daosh> dag nabbit... ok, i need to get the codecs package on to a external hard drive so i can get them on my laptop... how can i do that?
[11:59] <Zannyuk> trying to save anything in etc i get permission denied
[11:59] <ikonia> Zannyuk: you need to edit the file as root so need to use "sudo" to launch the editor of "gksudo" if it is a graphical editor
[11:59] <ikonia> Zannyuk: eg: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:59] <sken> rangel do you have the problem that when you open a window the window show something black flickering for a very short time?
[11:59] <sanguisdex> so every not and then evolution cashes, and with it pidgin.  what services should I be ending to be able to start evoultion with out rebooting?
[12:00] <Zannyuk> cool cheers all thx ikonia for reminding me of nano (tried debian a few months ago)
[12:00]  * Zannyuk runs upstairs to try it out on the other pc
[12:00] <sanguisdex> *crashes
[12:01] <subdolus> yo, having trouble with apt-get: http://pastebin.com/m6d99a1b
[12:02] <ikonia> subdolus have you done what the error suggests ?
[12:03] <WIGGMPk> subdolus: like ikonia said, try using "sudo apt-get -f install" and if that doesnt work, trying installing each dependancy, use -f in necessary
[12:03] <Zannyuk> thx again all you helpful bunch :)
[12:04] <Dominik1> my system keeps getting bogged down with "IO Waits" what does that imply? and how can I fix it, I feel like it is wrong for my system to hang for 10 seconds because I send a print job
[12:04] <punzada> hey can anyone with compiz do me a favor, open up the ccsm and quickly tell me what the default keystroke is to enable/disable the widget layer plugin in? would be a life saver
[12:04] <j2daosh> how can i get a package i would install through apt-get on to an external hard drive for porting to a machine with no internet access?
[12:04] <WIGGMPk> punzada: it should be F9
[12:05] <punzada> TY
[12:05] <punzada> lol accidently make all my windows widgets
[12:05] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: you wouldnt happen to be running a website with flash while your gettings IO Waits?
[12:05] <punzada> couldn't get anything
[12:05] <punzada> :)
[12:05] <WIGGMPk> punzada: lmfao, did it work?
[12:05] <norbert79> Good day
[12:05] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: no I am not, just amarok, pigin, terminal, Firefox
[12:06] <sasmadar> good day
[12:06] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: have you tried closing Firefox ?
[12:06] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: I suppose firefox has one tab with a little flash
[12:07] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: the reason I ask is cause Firefox had a haulting type bug where it would hang your entire system for like 10 secs and then just go after that... I would try monitoring without firefox running and see if it helps
[12:07] <punzada> yeah WIGGMPk worked like a charm, thanks :) lol
[12:07] <WIGGMPk> punzada: np
[12:08] <punzada> funnyily enough I've been converting to mostly terminal based apps so popping into a tty to ask was no issue :P
[12:08] <sanguisdex> so after the upgrade, I list all my saved wifi keys, is there a way I can recover them form my back up files?
[12:08] <subdolus> where is mpeg_stat hidden?
[12:09] <sundown> Hi everyone! Requires the server openvpn for multiple client connections (to link multiple offices), encrypted using the x509 in ubuntu.
[12:09] <sundown> Need detailed instructions.
[12:09] <WIGGMPk> punzada: lucky you, i havent seen a tty since i was physically logged in on my server
[12:09] <pwk> hi. How to install ubuntu on a encrypted disk? So that only /boot is plain-text?
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> !encryption
[12:09] <WIGGMPk> Sundown: OpenVPN's webpage as a very detailed manual
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> I'm sure there's a factoid
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> !encrypted
[12:10] <FloodBot3> SlimeyPete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <dape> hello
[12:10] <gcbirzan> How can I get around the libc6 dependency crap when upgrading to Intrepid?
[12:10] <pwk> SlimeyPete, i don't want only "private directories", I wan't everything encrypted, except the absolute necessary (/boot)
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> pwk: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/17/7-steps-to-an-encrypted-partition-local-or-removable-disk/    looks handy
[12:11] <Squish> hey guys
[12:11] <mumbles> anyone know a good wifi detection tools ?
[12:11] <pwk> SlimeyPete, that also sounds very much like just a none system disk to be encrypted
[12:12] <pwk> the "tricky" part is not encrypting a disk, I can do that no problem, but to have the *system* disk encrypted, so it has to be decrypted very early
[12:12] <gcbirzan> mumbles: watch iwlist scan? :-)
[12:12] <sundown> 	
[12:12] <sundown> You may use skrpity automatic generation of keys?
[12:12] <Squish> Can anyone please tell me where the xconfig file is located in 8.10
[12:12] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: I feel like not running firefox improved the issue, what can I do to save ff?
[12:12] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: good question.. was there a flash applet running in firefox?
[12:13] <truszx> I just did a release upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 yesterday and now my sound had stopped working. M-Audio 2496 card. Weird thing is, sound works when playing a video through VLC player but nothing else it seems
[12:13] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: there was one tab with a lil flash, I close tab, performance went up, I close all of firefox, performance went up again
[12:13] <truszx> any ideas?
[12:14] <dumb_dumb> Skry : can`t find linux-backports-modules-intrepid package
[12:14] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: I am still getting the same amount of IO Wait, but it seems like this time it doesn't block other requrests... does that make sense?
[12:14] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: well thats generally common, if you close any application, your performance is going to go up because your running less of a load. I would try and compare regular browsing of firefox to the wait times you were experincing.. if you only notice that Firefox is causing a big problem when flash is running, then consider getting an addon like flashblock
[12:15] <WIGGMPk> sundown: i found this page that might help you out with your OpenVPN problem, but I would also suggest reading the documentation on there own website. http://www.djatlantic.net/?p=335
[12:17] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: from system resource manager I can see that I have 100% "IO Wait" but only about maybe 10 to 20% CPU utilization, but even mouse movement is choppy, and hdd sounds like its working
[12:18] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: are you running Hardy? are you up-to-date with updates?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:18] <Dominik1> WIGGMPK: fresh install of 8.10, full updates
[12:18] <neptun123> i'm trying to install nvidia-177-kernel-source, but it fails because the linux-source is not found, though it is installed.
[12:19]  * philpinch is away: Away from keyboard
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> neptun123: reinstall the linux-source module then retry
[12:19]  * philpinch is back (gone 00:00:21)
[12:19] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: i havent ventured to Intrepid Ibex yet, this might be new to 8.10, but sounds similar to the issue in Hardy. Honestly I dont have any good advise for you, keep asking & try web browsing (google, launchpad, forums, etc)
[12:19] <WIGGMPk> Dominik1: sorry I couldnt be more help
[12:20] <uriol> i tried to install the new operating system with the update application
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Dominik1: wassup man?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | uriol
[12:20] <uriol> but the update it was interrupted at half of the process
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> uriol: oh boy
[12:21] <uriol> and now i can't conmtinue the update
[12:21] <dumb_dumb> guys
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> uriol: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:21] <uriol> it says you cannot update from hardy to intrepid with this process
[12:21] <uriol> ok
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> uriol: could work (not sure)
[12:21] <dumb_dumb> i used hadry and after updating to new kernel I can`t used my wireless
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: if you compiled modules for it they will need recompiling
[12:22] <Squish> anyone know where the xconfig file is located in 8.10?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: or apt-get --reinstall install whatever you did to get it working
[12:22] <Gnea> Squish: same place as in 8.04
[12:22] <uriol> and also the system restarted in low resolution mode
[12:23] <dumb_dumb> i`m using madwifi on atheros
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> uriol: id get updated then sort the gfx out
[12:23] <uriol> ok
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install madwifi-tools
[12:24] <dumb_dumb> i have to do it every time i update the kernel?
[12:24] <Squish> Gnea: where is that?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: if its says no such package, try tab completing madwifi-tools
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: i think its because you jumped up a release
[12:24] <Gnea> Squish: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:24] <neptun123> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot, reinstalling helped
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> neptun123: maybe it forgot it had it
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> neptun123: wtg :D
[12:25] <Squish> cheers Hnea
[12:25] <Squish> *Gnea
[12:25] <Gnea> :)
[12:25] <dumb_dumb> ok let me try it first
[12:25] <dumb_dumb> thanks
[12:25] <Awsoonn> where is the .trash located for users?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[12:26] <Frogzoo> ~/.local/share/Trash crikey, why'd that ever need moving?
[12:26] <Awsoonn> indeed
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Frogzoo: no idea, I make a symlink to it in the old place
[12:27] <Frogzoo> lol
[12:27] <wers> does the tiling plugin for compiz actually work on intrepid?
[12:27] <Squish> Gnea: why would "permission" be denied?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> wers: i'd ask in #compiz
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Squish: on what?
[12:27] <Gnea> Squish: because it requires admin authentication
[12:28] <Squish> yeh i was already logged in as root
[12:28] <Squish> ubuntu 8.10 ActionParsnip
[12:28] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: he's trying to edit his /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[12:28]  * ActionParsnip tuts at Squish
[12:28] <Gnea> !sudo | Squish
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Squish: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:28] <Squish> haha because of my choice of laptop?
[12:28] <Awsoonn> haha, I dont think I've ever emptied that..... 200k files
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Squish: no, for logging in as root
[12:29] <Squish> why's that bad?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Squish: yes
[12:29] <Paavi2_0> it's insecure
[12:29] <Squish> fair enough
[12:29] <Gnea> Squish: it's like letting a bull loose in a china shop.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Squish: you can really damage your system accidentally, as well as running a web browser with root accress can be compromised, giving the attacker full reign of your system
[12:29] <Illusion2> Hello folks, can somebody tell me if it's possible to bootup Kubuntu Live edition or another live distrbution with pxe boot in Ubuntu Server?'
[12:30] <Paavi2_0> plus logging in as root is a bad habbit as smoking cigarettes
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Squish: running it as a user limits access but also makes your system a lot more secure
[12:30] <Squish> ill keep that in mind
[12:30] <bubble> mmm cigarettes
[12:30] <bubble> :D
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Squish: you dont need root access all the time, hence sudo for one shot power
[12:30] <siccness> hell yeah
[12:30] <siccness> Hell I might light up a smoke right now.
[12:30] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting, any ideas??
[12:30] <Gnea> !netboot | Illusion2
[12:30] <siccness> and login as root and accidently type 'shutdown'!
[12:31] <werdnus> I did that once upon a time.
[12:31] <bubble> shutdown..
[12:31] <earthnative> ok, here is an issue. just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, my play/pause multimedia key no longer talks to rhythmbox (but dbus works, cos back/next works, and quod libet picks it all up too. how do I debug dbus settings?
[12:31] <bubble> why not rm -rf /
[12:31] <bubble> :D
[12:31] <Squish> so im trying to edit my xconf file to get my resolution working...
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Squish: what gfx card do you have?
[12:31] <siccness> There's nothing funnier than shutting down a testbox, when it ends up being a production.
[12:31] <siccness> Sorry Gnea.
[12:31] <Paavi2_0> siccness: shutdown without options isn't going to do any damage :)
[12:31] <woody86> does anyone know if there's a way to change the temps that the fans turn on/off on a computer?
[12:32] <Illusion2> ubottu: Is that for pxe boot as well?
[12:32] <gcbirzan> ubottu: upgrade intrepid
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> siccness: i do that all the time, its my job to reoot production servers to get them working after they hang. but it is like 2am so i dont care
[12:32] <werdnus> ubottu: get me a coffee!
[12:32] <yyoZ> Hi, I tried to modify a legacy network connection using Network Manager (after upgrading to 8.10), and it said "nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)". Is there anyone who could tell me how to have the write right on this? Thanks.
[12:32] <Gnea> Illusion2: hi, PXE is a form of netbooting
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | gcbirzan
[12:33] <Illusion2> Gnea ok thnx
[12:33] <Squish> VN896
[12:33] <felli> hi guys - i got an intressting problem with apt-get after upgrading to intrepid - any help would be appreciated
[12:33] <Squish> Chrome9 HC
[12:34] <jrib> felli: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[12:34] <Paavi2_0> yyoZ: if you aren't willing to remove nm you have to empty /etc/network/interfaces and log off/reboot
[12:34] <Paavi2_0> yyoZ: that worked for me
[12:34] <jpv950> where do I set up an ssh command to run on every login (with root privileges)? just need some pointers...
[12:34] <jrib> jpv950: what ssh command do you want to run exactly?
[12:34] <jpv950> port forwarding
[12:35] <Gnea> Illusion2: that first URL has a link to the netboot section, which clearly describes the PXEprocess
[12:35] <Paavi2_0> yyoZ: but be warned, my nm-connection-editor keeps "forgetting" settings
[12:35] <bullgard4> How to copy some string that Links 2 displays on the screen?
[12:35] <edju> I repartitioned the disk, and somehow got the parts in the wrong order - it's sda1, 3 then 2.  Doesn't seem to affect anything, but is there a way to reorder them, non-destructively?
[12:35] <earthnative> bullgard4: hold down shift while you copy - I think
[12:35] <jrib> bullgard4: you mean the 'screen' program?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip1> Squish: http://www.tkarena.com/forums/linux-arena/37154-desktop-effects-amilo-pro-3515-vn896-guide.html
[12:35] <gcbirzan> ActionParsnip1: I want to upgrade only a few package.s
[12:36] <bullgard4> jrib: No. I mean the Links 2 program.
[12:36] <jpv950> jrib, specifically, I want to forward my SMTP traffic. But I know how to do it with ssh, I just want to set it up on login
[12:36] <yyoZ> Paavi2_0: thanks for the tip. I might try it.
[12:36] <felli> ok how to deal with this error message no matter what package i try to install it's always the same
[12:36] <felli> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/system-tools-backends_2.6.0-1ubuntu1.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:36] <felli>  trying to overwrite `/usr', which is the diverted version of `/.' (package: /usr/bin)
[12:36] <albator1932> hi guys
[12:36] <earthnative> jrib: I assume by 'screen' that bullgard4 was meaning 'a terminal'
[12:36] <Paavi2_0> gcbirzan: sudo aptitude upgrade
[12:36] <gcbirzan> Doesn't work. And it's dist-upgrade.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> gcbirzan: remove the old then install again, it will install the newer version
[12:37] <gcbirzan> aptitude remove libc6 won't help :-D
[12:37] <nomego> hey guys
[12:37] <gcbirzan> libc6 predepends on findutils, which depends on libc6.'
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> felli: sudo apt-get clean
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> felli: then try again
[12:37] <Squish> thanks ActionParsnip
[12:37] <felli> i have already
[12:37] <nomego> after updating to 8.10, networkmanager can't use my wired connection but confuses it with my bluetooth configuration
[12:37] <jrib> !startup > jpv950
[12:37] <felli> error remains
[12:37] <gcbirzan> felli: Try aptitude update?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> felli: i'd manually rm the file then, you'll need sudo
[12:38] <_vvd> whats this "envy" postfix for the fglrx drivers about?
[12:38] <jrib> jpv950: but it sounds like there is a better way to do what you are trying to do
[12:38] <bullgard4> earthnative: Shift+Ctrl+C does not function.
[12:38] <jpv950> jrib, how so?
[12:38] <jpv950> (thanks by the way)
[12:38] <Illusion2> Gnea: Does it only support installing or does it support booting from pxe when the client pc doesn't have a hard drive?
[12:38] <felli> the .deb file? no matter wich deb file i want to install, it's always the same
[12:38] <earthnative> bullgard4: no, hold shift, then select text with mouse. select = copy.
[12:38] <Paavi2_0> nomego: all sorts of hassles with nm seem to be a feature
[12:38] <earthnative> bullgard4: then middle-click = paste.
[12:39] <pignu> how do i check if the 'vim' package supports '+cindent'
[12:39] <jrib> jpv950: just sounds like there would be a better solution.  Doesn't seem "clean" to me.  I don't know though, so you can just add it to your startup like in the ubottu link
[12:39] <earthnative> bullgard4: it's an alternative (more traditional to X) copy/paste mechanism that X has
[12:39] <nomego> Paavi2_0: ;)
[12:39] <Paavi2_0> nomego: search launchpad for similar bugs
[12:39] <jrib> earthnative: no need to hold shift, just selecting copies
[12:39] <djiezes> How do i configure spelling options in gnome-native applications (such as the gnome-blog-applet)?
[12:39] <gcbirzan> felli: Did you install any weird software?
[12:39] <earthnative> jrib: in links2 though - links/lynx/links2 tend to mess those up
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: maybe old school works..try ctrl + insert
[12:39] <jpv950> jrib, oh I see what you mean. ok, thanks again
[12:39] <earthnative> (in some terminals, not all)
[12:39] <jrib> pignu: without installing it?
[12:39] <jrib> earthnative: oh...
[12:40] <gcbirzan> felli: What does dpkg-divert --list /usr say?
[12:40] <moDumass> hey all, my screen res has just gone 640x480 for no reason
[12:40] <felli> no not at all, the only weird thing was the nvidia 177 driver, which wasn't working for me, so i replaced it with 173
[12:40] <pignu> jrib: hmmm, i figured it out for this case, thanks xD
[12:40] <moDumass> no changes whatsoever jsut gnome stopped working and now will only boot into 640x480
[12:40] <felli> diversion of /. to /usr by /usr/bin
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> moDumass: you'll need to resetup your gfx
[12:41] <gcbirzan> felli: That's,hm. dpkg -l /usr/bin, what does that say?
[12:41] <bullgard4> earthnative: Yes, this works. Thank you very much.
[12:41] <earthnative> so anyone know how to finetune dbus? rhythmbox is now ignoring my play/pause key :(
[12:41] <moDumass> ActionParsnip i checked xorg.conf no changes
[12:41] <earthnative> bullgard4: 'welcome :)
[12:41] <gcbirzan> Oh, come on.
[12:42] <gcbirzan> Undefined subroutine &main::x_loadtemplatefile called at /usr/sbin/pam-auth-update line 99.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> moDumass: then you are missing a package or module
[12:42] <gcbirzan> Seriously. I'm starting to give up on ever upgrading this.
[12:42] <felli> No packages found matching /usr/bin.
[12:42] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: Ctrl+Ins does not work. But earthnative's proposal works.
[12:42] <gcbirzan> felli: Hm. Okay, well. Go look in /var/lib/dpkg/diversions
[12:42] <jrib> !x | moDumass
[12:42] <gcbirzan> felli: You should find that diversion somewhere in there.
[12:43] <gcbirzan> felli: Should look like /usr\n/.\n/usr/bin
[12:43] <ronhalfdanr> file browser freezes for home, user and root folders...................any clues?
[12:43] <Gnea> Illusion2: the documentation assumes that you've got a hard drive to install to. I would imagine that it wouldn't be too difficult to boot a livecd over the network everytime to do a diskless installation.
[12:43] <gcbirzan> felli: Or, hm. How big is that file?
[12:43] <Illusion2> Gnea i've tried serveral options
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: just testing. ive tried to find the shortcut myself but then have to move my hand off keyboard to get copy
[12:44] <gcbirzan> Illusion2: Look into LTSP
[12:44] <Illusion2> gcbirzan i will have a look
[12:44] <felli> it has got 1617 byte
[12:44] <gcbirzan> felli: Can you mail it to me at gcbirzan@gmail.com?
[12:45] <Gnea> Illusion2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OnNFSDrive
[12:45] <felli> sure
[12:45] <moDumass> ActionParsnip hmm, strange my xorg.conf shows the res as 1440x900 as an option
[12:45] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: I am not quite sure what you were going to tell me. I have left my hands off the keyboard in order to get the string copied. And this works.
[12:45] <NicEXE> How can I face this error? "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:45] <gcbirzan> moDumass: You should remove all resolution referencse from xorg.conf.
[12:45] <moDumass> but its nolonger an option i can selevt in the screen res gui
[12:46] <jac0b> does anyone know how to read a mixed-mode cd or enhanced cd?
[12:46] <moDumass> gcbirzan, thas a lot of stuff to remove
[12:46] <gcbirzan> NicEXE: Install libgtk2.0-0 if you don't already have it installed, then run ldconfig
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: im just saying how it sucks theres no copy shortcut
[12:46] <felli> just done
[12:46] <gcbirzan> moDumass: X will do a way better job at detecting the available resolutions than anything else.
[12:47] <cyrax> I have a question regarding Ubuntu networking. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and WinXP on my desktop. When I open any URL (say www.google.com)  it takes way too long to open the website only in Ubuntu. Windows does fine. Most of the time it's an issue with "looking up host". Can someone help me here.
[12:47] <virtuald> my cat accidentaly my menus, is this dangerous?
[12:47] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip1: Ok.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> cyrax: can we see your /etc/resol.conf file please
[12:47] <djiezes> Hi, I can't get spelling to work in the gnome-blog applet. Any idea what spelling-engine it uses (aspell, enchant?), and how I can change it's dictionary?
[12:47] <gcbirzan> felli: You managed to screw up that file completely. :-)
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | cyrax
[12:47] <gcbirzan> Not saying you personally did it, but still
[12:47] <virtuald> my cat accidentaly removed my menus, i can't find any solution
[12:47] <felli> yeah nice ;) but how? :)
[12:47] <moDumass> gcbirzan yeh, im going to pastebin my xorg.conf, i dont feel good about removing stuff from it
[12:48] <gcbirzan> felli: Look in diversions-old
[12:48] <gcbirzan> felli: Paste me the first 3 lines of that in /msg
[12:48] <Gnea> virtuald: try cleaning the litterbox
[12:48] <gcbirzan> moDumass: Hey, 99% of the resolution problems are fixed that way :-)
[12:48] <moDumass> http://pastebin.com/d4118d103
[12:48] <virtuald> gnea: done
[12:49] <virtuald> gnea: didn't help, now what?
[12:49] <gcbirzan> moDumass: I'd try a lowercase x first.
[12:49] <Gnea> virtuald: try making a new account
[12:49] <virtuald> i don't want that
[12:49] <gcbirzan> moDumass: BUt, eh. Removing them is usually safer.
[12:49] <moDumass> gcbirzan, i mean il do it, but just removing stuff from xorg.conf has mashed a lot of stuff in the past
[12:49] <virtuald> it works för the guest user
[12:49] <gcbirzan> felli: Perfect. Copy that file over the diversionsone.
[12:49] <gcbirzan> felli: Almost everything should start working after that.
[12:49] <gcbirzan> felli: what was the last package you installed
[12:49] <Gnea> virtuald: make a new account, migrate your data to the new account, remove your cat-scratched account, rename new account to old account name.
[12:49] <ronhalfdanr> file browser freezes...................anyone have a clue?
[12:50] <virtuald> hmm
[12:50] <felli> the nvidia 173
[12:50] <jrib> moDumass: you're not on intrepid right?
[12:50] <gcbirzan> felli: Ah, duh. Well, that package is probably buggy
[12:50] <Gnea> virtuald: your menus will be restored, which is what you want.
[12:50] <NicEXE> gcbirzan: I have already installed that lib... ldconfig does not do anything
[12:50] <felli> but it works for me instead of the 177 :)
[12:50] <moDumass> jrib, nup 8.04
[12:51] <gcbirzan> felli: True. But, hm. I fail at the ubuntu bug thingy
[12:51] <virtuald> there must be a solution without that much effort
[12:51] <jrib> moDumass: you should pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of 'xrandr' as well
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> felli: reinstall the package if its screwy
[12:51] <gcbirzan> NicEXE: ldconfig -p | grep libgtk, what does that say
[12:51] <cyrax> ActionParsnipl here is the dump - http://paste.ubuntu.com/68834/
[12:52] <Gnea> virtuald: you asked for a solution that works, I gave you one.
[12:52] <moDumass> evilsherpa@evilsherpa-desktop:~$ sudo /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:52] <moDumass> sudo: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: command not found
[12:52] <moDumass> evilsherpa@evilsherpa-desktop:~$
[12:52] <NicEXE> gcbirzan: http://pastebin.com/d425e3356
[12:52] <Gnea> virtuald: you might also consider a dome to fit over your keyboard
[12:53] <moDumass> xcuse my noobness
[12:53] <Strife89> Would you rather have and easy solution that breaks something?
[12:53] <jrib> moDumass: it's a file.  Just open it like you did /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:53] <NicEXE> gcbirzan: I think the problem is that I am working on 64-bit environment
[12:53] <virtuald> gnea: or a chain for the cat
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> cyrax: ok so you are using external DNS which may be slow, is the windows system using identical dns servers?
[12:53] <felli> gcbirzan, you're the best :) everything is working again :) thanks a lot :)
[12:54] <Gnea> virtuald: consider what you chain the cat to - make sure it's something that you don't care about getting all scratched up.
[12:54] <gcbirzan> felli: Btw, you should report this bug
[12:54] <gcbirzan> NicEXE: Might be. Hm.
[12:54] <moDumass> jrib http://pastebin.com/mf569772
[12:54] <felli> k i'll do
[12:54] <NicEXE> how can I run 32 bit apps on 64 bit environment?
[12:55] <iwmw> you can nest 2 apps to fulfill 64bits
[12:55] <Strife89> With great difficulty? ;)
[12:55] <virtuald> linux32 appexe
[12:55] <ronhalfdanr> <---------------is learning why it's so hard to convince windows users to stay with linux
[12:55] <Squish> ActionParsnip1: if i want to edit the xorg.conf file would i be able to simply open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then copy a different conf file into it?
[12:55] <Telrunn> Good morning ladies and gents
[12:55] <cyrax> ActionParsnip1: yes
[12:55] <cyrax> ActionParsnip1: yes, Windows uses the same DNS
[12:55] <Gnea> ronhalfdanr: your best bet is to not even try
[12:55] <mib_mpjpzs> hi.  today when i turned on my computer my gnome has no window borders.  i.e.  no title bar, min/max, etc.  not sure what didn't load.  i tried running gnome-wm from the command line, but that didn't help
[12:55] <cyrax> ActionParsnip1: could it be that ipv6 is slowing things down?
[12:55] <jrib> Squish: make a backup first and you need to open it with sudo
[12:56] <moDumass> jrib : http://pastebin.com/m75743edc
[12:56] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: Meh, I was a Windows user until ME was forced upon me. ;)
[12:56] <mopped> I open vlc and I hear a little sound from ubuntu, but I don't hear any sound from VLC? I get this error in shell when i opoen a file
[12:56] <moDumass> jrib and thanks for the helop btw
[12:56] <mopped> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> cyrax: possibly, yes
[12:56] <ronhalfdanr> oh that was a useful comment gnae
[12:56] <mopped> anyone got an idea?
[12:56] <jim_p> ronhalfdanr: i try to convince linux and windows users alike not toback down on the first bad thing they face and switch os
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> mopped: does a reboot help?
[12:56] <mopped> I havn't tried yet!
[12:56] <yarborea> ronhalfdanr I'm a recent convert. I suspect it's all other conversions - the prospective convertee has to cross two thirds of the bridge by themselves.
[12:57] <ronhalfdanr> well jim, 5 days trying to fix a problem is freaking ridiculous when it's something as basic as file browser problems and not one helpful answer
[12:57] <Gnea> ronhalfdanr: you think I'm kidding? it's wasted breath to tell them. the only way is to show and prove it to them and let them make up their own minds.
[12:57] <tul_> any1 can help with non identified sound card(s) under 8.10?
[12:57] <tul_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=1285760ee6cf231840fa42d58a42bcce4681c48b
[12:57] <Strife89> Gnea: Absolutely.
[12:57] <natalisushka> Hi, please help. Since I installed 8.10 and network icon does not appear! I set my eth0 and pppoe configs in /etc/network/interfaces and it works, however, I can't manage my networks using gui at all! even if I use System -> Preferences -> Netowrk Configurations it's to no avail. I restarting network: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop and start, then icon appears with this "!" sign as if it's not connected, and also doesn't work! The i
[12:57] <natalisushka> con only appears if I am connected a preconfigured wifi connection, but when there isn't any wireless, it connects to pppoe using wire only with manual configs! that's annoying! Anyone?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> tul_: run lspci, it will show you the way
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> natalisushka: sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[12:58] <tul_> ActionParsnip1: In lspci I see both my cards..
[12:58] <bigmack83> in ubuntu, why wouldnt i have permissions to edit files in another partition when i put them there? according to permissions the partition is owned my root and i can change permissions so i can edit the files and using "sudo chown/chmod" gives me "operation not permitted"
[12:58] <Gnea> natalisushka: yeah, the gui doesn't store them directly in /etc/network/interfaces so you need to make sure you use the gui from the get-go
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> tul_: so now you can install them as you will see what makes / model they are
[12:59] <jrib> moDumass: what changed between when it was working and when it stopped working?  Did you install updates?  Get a new monitor?
[12:59] <bigmack83> oops, i meant i cant change permissions...
[12:59] <natalisushka> ActionParsnip1, what is it for? My problem isn't connecting to eth0 or wlan0 .. it's getting the icon appear when I am connected to eth0
[12:59] <jrib> bigmack83: what filesystem?
[12:59] <natalisushka> Gnea, what is get-go ?
[12:59] <Strife89> bigmack83: CAPS LOCK isn't on, is it?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> natalisushka: its a different gui for network config
[12:59] <seba__> enjww
[12:59] <Gnea> natalisushka: "from the start"
[12:59] <moDumass> jrib, nothing, i was surfing the net, got up, watched some entourage and my desktop stopped responding to mouse clicks, well everything
[13:00] <moDumass> so i alt ctl del`d
[13:00] <moDumass> and now im in  640x480 land
[13:00] <bigmack83> jrib, fat32. its mostly just music
[13:00] <natalisushka> Gnea, Ok, so what do you suggest?
[13:00] <bigmack83> Strife89, no caps lock
[13:00] <moDumass> i still have compiz fusion, but only in 630x480
[13:00] <jrib> bigmack83: you need to set permissions in the mount options
[13:00] <jrib> !vfat > bigmack83
[13:00] <Strife89> bigmack83: Just checking, that bit me for a while once. :)
[13:00] <bigmack83> ok thanks
[13:01] <Gnea> natalisushka: the second you edit that interfaces file, you've detracted the whole gui interface. you can either use the interfaces file or the gui to manage your network settings - by not using the gui, you won't get any icons unless you specifically add something to the panel to show traffic
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> moDumass: you could run envyng-gtk if its nvidia or ati
[13:01] <bigmack83> Strife89, lol yea it has me too
[13:01] <jrib> moDumass: did you hold the power button on your computer or just use the keyboard to shutdown normally?
[13:01] <bigmack83> jrib, thanks
[13:01] <ronhalfdanr> well this is as useless as the forums
[13:01] <Gnea> natalisushka: i would try to find a stock copy of the interfaces file, reboot, and try the gui again
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> natalisushka: you could sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> natalisushka: then reboot
[13:01] <djupp> Hello everyone. Is there a specific room I have to join for network issues?
[13:01] <natalisushka> Gnea, sounds good
[13:02] <SOURdiesel> ronhalfdanr:  learning can sometimes be frustrating.
[13:02] <Gnea> djupp: #networking
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> natalisushka: you will then have to resetup networking using the gui
[13:02] <djupp> awesome, thanks Gnea
[13:02] <osa> mowi ktos po polsku??
[13:02] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: And if that fails, consider a Live CD to install fresh.
[13:02] <ronhalfdanr> SOURdiesel: yup, so can piss poor indexing of "help"
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> !pl | osa
[13:02] <natalisushka> ActionParsnip1, Gnea thanks! I will do that right away
[13:02] <Strife89> SOURdiesel: Tell me about it.......
[13:02] <ronhalfdanr> what works, works great, what doesn;t work sucks
[13:02] <knoppix> amen
[13:02] <Strife89> Strongly agreed.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> firing on all pistons here
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> so zero suckage for me
[13:03] <RinTinTigger> ronhalfdnr ...wise words my friend :D
[13:03] <moDumass> jrib. after the alt ctrl bit it jsut went to login screen with 640x480, so i selected restart and it stopped about half way and seemed to hang so i used the power button
[13:03] <ronhalfdanr> did that Strife89
[13:03] <Strife89> I've reinstalled Ubuntu twice so far since I switched.
[13:03] <SOURdiesel> give a man a fish, he eats for a day.  if he learns to fish, he eats forever.
[13:03] <ronhalfdanr> allergic to fish
[13:04] <Strife89> :)
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> SOURdiesel: he wont eat forever, hes a man, he'll swap if for a fish
[13:04] <Strife89> Bread, then?
[13:04] <knoppix> ronhalfdanr? are you allergic to fish!? OMG!!!
[13:04] <moDumass> or duck
[13:04] <SOURdiesel> ActionParsnip1: Ha!
[13:04] <ronhalfdanr> yep knoppix
[13:04] <moDumass> all fish or just shelfish?
[13:04] <platius> teach him to fish and you can sell him fishing gear forever
[13:04] <knoppix> fish is the only thing edible on this planet
[13:04] <ronhalfdanr> anything that lives in the ocean
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> platius: amen to that
[13:04] <knoppix> if you like fishin you should go to Norway, right?
[13:04] <moDumass> turn him vegan
[13:04] <knoppix> what is God doing right now?
[13:05] <Gnea> knoppix: you forgot chicken.
[13:05] <platius> Ive got a closet full
[13:05] <Telrunn> So how hard is this ubuntu thing to learn, new fish for the fryer here O_o
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> knoppix: to me, not existing
[13:05] <EatShrooms> knoppix: surfing porn sites
[13:05] <ronhalfdanr> vegan old indian word for bad hunter
[13:05] <Strife89> knoppix: Only He knows......
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> Telrunn: not hard at all
[13:05] <loca|host> i have a Nvidia FX5200 card wich isnt installed correctly on my Interepid Ibex, the Hardware Drivers window tells me there were no propietary drivers for my system ...
[13:05] <knoppix> EatScjrrp,s. you talke that back you!!
[13:05] <Gnea> Telrunn: depends on the user
[13:05] <EatShrooms> teehee
[13:05] <knoppix> EatShrooms.. God does NOT do that!!
[13:06] <Gnea> okay guys
[13:06] <jrib> moDumass: you might be able to get your resolutions to work if you disable "UseEdidFreqs" (http://ru.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.80/README/appendix-b.html), but I'd be sure to run fsck on your drive and wary of your install
[13:06] <Strife89> That was just uncalled for.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> Telrunn: if you are willing to persevere and learn neww stuff and break things along the way, not hard
[13:06] <Gnea> !religion | knoppix
[13:06] <Telrunn> Third day with this new OS, got tired of windows
[13:06] <SOURdiesel> Telrunn:  depends on the level of patience you have and appreciation for open source.
[13:06] <loca|host> any idea ?
[13:06] <xukun_> I installed the ATI Proprietary drivers for my ati 3450 but I can not find the Catalyst control center to configure tv-out
[13:06] <moDumass> jrib would the hard reset have mashed
[13:07] <Telrunn> I'm willing to put in the time, did a complete install, like sort of burnt my bridge, no turning back now :) the only way to learn
[13:07] <knoppix> how do you install your burning device?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> loca|host:
[13:07] <Strife89> Telrunn: The best advice I can give is to take it slowly, one step at a time.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> loca|host: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478986
[13:07] <Telrunn> thanks and will do Strife89
[13:07] <SOURdiesel> Strife89:  tru.
[13:07] <Strife89> Telrunn: Keep a good Live CD handy to be safe. :)
[13:07] <Squish> Sweet got my resolution working fine now :D
[13:08] <depape> hello, i've got some question about kernel modules from ubuntu-backports: im using the ath5k wlan driver from ubuntu-backport, 1) how do i know about the version/date of the driver i get from ubuntu-backports 2) is there a clever way to always get the latest version of the driver? its buggy on my nc10
[13:08] <jollyroger> hey folks
[13:08] <Telrunn> lol I'm ahead of you on that one Strife89, this is actually my second Live install, found out what terminal did the hard way O_o
[13:08] <Strife89> Telrunn: :)
[13:08] <Squish> My LCD screen doesnt auto detect when i plug it in. would i have to edit the xconf file again to change this?
[13:09] <bigmack83> jrib, my partitions are all already mounted. the page assumes theyre not. should i try to unmount them and start with that page?
[13:09] <jollyroger> i got a problem with AIDE + Hardy.....installation went fine, but "aideinit" gives me:  A34:Error while reading configuration:( AIDE --init return code 17; see /var/lib/aide/aide.db.new for details"
[13:09] <jollyroger> problem is that /var/lib/aide/aide.db.new doesn't exist
[13:09] <bigmack83> jrib, im able to access the files arelady
[13:09] <jrib> bigmack83: how are they being mounted?  Are they in fstab?
[13:09] <Strife89> bigmack83: You can, except for your root partition.
[13:09] <jollyroger> there are similar launchpad-comments, but they are _ages_ old
[13:10] <ronhalfdanr> file browser freezes for root, home and user folders................any clues?
[13:10] <bigmack83> jrib, they were setup when i installed ubuntu (8.04). yes theyre in fstab already
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> Squish: detected in what way?
[13:10] <jrib> bigmack83: pastebin your fstab
[13:10] <bigmack83> Strife89, well the extra partitions are owed by root and cant modify them. only access
[13:10] <Squish> ActionParsnip1: well when i plug it in nothing happens, it just tells me to check the signal cable
[13:10] <bigmack83> jrib, ok. one moment
[13:11] <xukun_> !ati
[13:11] <depape> hello, i've got some question about kernel modules from ubuntu-backports: im using the ath5k wlan driver from ubuntu-backport, 1) how do i know about the version/date of the driver i get from ubuntu-backports 2) is there a clever way to always get the latest version of the driver? its buggy on my nc10
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Squish: is the card set as primary in bios?
[13:11] <Strife89> bigmack83: By "root partition," I mean the partition Ubuntu is installed on. :)
[13:11] <djupp> Alright, I'll ask here as well, as it concerns ubuntu: Upgraded from Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, was previously connected with a broadcomm 4328 Chipset to a wireless router (Driver: Ndiswrapper). Now there is the wl module in 8.10, but both wl as well as ndiswrapper failed to open my hardware. Running lspci shows the chip present.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Squish: does it show bootup messages?
[13:11] <jollyroger> depape, "aptitude show your_package"
[13:11] <Squish> no
[13:11] <bigmack83> jrib, http://pastebin.com/d49f22655
[13:12] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: Right now I can only assume Nautilus is somehow broken. -_-
[13:12] <al3x-admin> Hi all. I have a problem with my wifi. I tried to patch it with the aircrack patch driver, so I could turn it on monitor mode, but it didn work. So, I decided to install the normal rt61 driver, and now I can see all the wifi accesspoints near me, but the link quality of all of them is 0%. What should I do?
[13:12] <sken> hello cool ubu guys
[13:12] <bigmack83> Strife89, no that one is fine. its a seperate partition i use for media files. ubuntu is on /sda2 , the other partition is on /sda4
[13:12] <ronhalfdanr> Strife89: nautilus can get into everything but those 3 folders, so can the places file browser
[13:12] <depape> jollyroger: but does that give me the version/date of the ath5k driver? the driver lies in linux-modules-backports-intrepid i think
[13:13] <sken> what timed log in
[13:13] <sken> ?
[13:13] <Strife89> bigmack83: And what does "sudo umount /dev/sda4" do?
[13:13] <jollyroger> depape, yes
[13:14] <jollyroger> depape, did you configure the repository correctly in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> Strife89: dont you umount the mountpoint, not the device?
[13:14] <sken> what timed login is>?
[13:14] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: Try to "cd" into them in the terminal.
[13:14] <jollyroger> depape, if yes, aptitude or apt for that matter should display what you need to
[13:14] <depape> jollyroger: well, all that i did was i enabled backports via the package-sources gui
[13:14] <bigmack83> Strife89, unmounts the volume apparently
[13:14] <bigmack83> heh
[13:14] <ronhalfdanr> Strife89: as in syntax cd/foldername?
[13:15] <moDumass> jrib, because the shutdown didnt complete would it have overwriten my display settings res somewhere?
[13:15] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: cd foldername
[13:15] <jin> how do you run a 32bit application on Ubuntu amd64? I am trying to run Zend Studio 6
[13:15] <depape> jollyroger: is there a specific "branch" i can enable to get the very very latest version of ath5k/backports?
[13:15] <Kartagis> why do i get sound from the speakers too although i plugged in earphones?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> jin: you need 32bit libs
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> jin: it can be done
[13:15] <jrib> moDumass: no
[13:15] <djupp> Kartagis, I had the same issue, try rebooting?
[13:15] <djupp> (sounds very windows-like I know)
[13:16] <Strife89> bigmack83: mkdir /tmp/mine; sudo mount /dev/sda4 /tmp/mine
[13:16] <jobe> for my webcam I need the gspca driver. its in the ubuntu repos as source only. so that means i have to compile it myself, right? and that the package only downloads the source. if that is so, then were is the source downloaded to do you think? and why would someone package the source code only?
[13:16] <jrib> bigmack83: what's the output of 'id'
[13:16] <Strife89> bigmack83: The colon is separating the commands there.
[13:16] <bigmack83> Strife89, and only root can remount it
[13:16] <moDumass> hmm, any idea what would have caused it or where to start lookin to fix it?
[13:16] <Kartagis> djupp, I'll try
[13:16] <Strife89> colon -> semicolon
[13:16] <bigmack83> jrib, uid=1000(bigmack) gid=1000(bigmack) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(fuse),108(lpadmin),114(admin),1000(bigmack)
[13:17] <Strife89> bigmack83: Right-click on the Applications menu.
[13:17] <djupp> Kartagis, alright, if not come back :)
[13:17] <jrib> moDumass: see if adding the edid option lets things work.  That will give clues
[13:17] <Strife89> bigmack83: Choose Edit Menus.
[13:17] <ronhalfdanr> Strife89: terminal starts in desktop........what can I cd to from there?
[13:17] <jrib> bigmack83: ls -ld /media/sda4
[13:17] <al3x-admin> Hi all. I have a problem with my wifi. I tried to patch it with the aircrack patch driver, so I could turn it on monitor mode, but it didn work. So, I decided to install the normal rt61 driver, and now I can see all the wifi accesspoints near me, but the link quality of all of them is 0%. What should I do?
[13:17] <jollyroger> depape, ath5k should be already included in the default kernel
[13:17] <bigmack83> Strife89, ok
[13:17] <jollyroger> why dont you use that one?
[13:17] <jollyroger> no backports etc needed
[13:17] <Strife89> bigmack83: Click on System Tools, and check Root Terminal. :)
[13:18] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: The _Desktop_?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> al3x-admin: does the connection give you data?
[13:18] <bigmack83> Strife89, ok
[13:18] <depape> well, i read some tutorial in which it sais that i have to turn on backports before using ath5k
[13:18] <ronhalfdanr> Strife89: ron@ron-desktop
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> al3x-admin: you may have to disable acpi
[13:18] <bigmack83> jrib, drwxrwx--- 6 root plugdev 32768 1969-12-31 16:00 /media/sda4
[13:18] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: ron-desktop is your computer's network name.
[13:18] <dennda> I guess a few of you are running urxvt and irssi. When trying to switch to window X via ALT+X it just prints some characters on the input line instead of switching to window X. Any idea why that happens?
[13:18] <jrib> bigmack83: and you can't write to /media/sda4?
[13:18] <depape> jollyroger: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444263#p444263
[13:18] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: You're in your home folder.
[13:19] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: What does ls say?
[13:19] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Yesterday I was able to connect to my wifi, but them I patched the driver .... and now I cant. Sure ACPI is the problem?
[13:19] <ronhalfdanr> first, how do I see what's in home?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> al3x-admin: it maybe, its worth a shot, you can always turn it back on if its no different
[13:19] <nikki__> Hey guys! How can I get the latest version of Blender? The one in the repos is old. I'm on Hardy. I CAN get a tarball, but I want it to be installed into the usual directory structure.
[13:19] <bigmack83> jrib, no i cant
[13:19] <ronhalfdanr> ssomething similar to dos dir command?
[13:20] <jrib> bigmack83: touch /media/sda4/i-can-write-to-sda4
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> ronhalfdanr: ls ~/
[13:20] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Ok, how can I disable it?
[13:20] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: ls pretty much does that. :)
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> sweet
[13:20]  * Strife89 badly needs to eat breakfast.
[13:20] <jollyroger> depape, ok, did you follow that tutorial?
[13:21] <ronhalfdanr> folder names are blue?
[13:21] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Ok, and if is not the acpi? What else could I do?
[13:21] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: Yep. :)
[13:21] <jollyroger> depape, in case you have included the backport-repository, you will receive driver-updates automatically
[13:21] <Strife89> ronhalfdanr: Sorry, I _really_ need to get some food......
[13:21] <depape> jollyroger: yes, and i am running this on a Samsung NC10 but both drivers (ath5k and madwifi) dont work for me :/
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> al3x-admin: dunno, maybe its a bug in the patch
[13:21] <bigmack83> jrib, that creates the proper file. but i still cant create files drom nautilus or make a link to a file
[13:21] <ronhalfdanr> go for it Strife89< ineed more coffee
[13:21] <jrib> bigmack83: press "reload" in nautilus
[13:22] <depape> jollyroger: via sudo apt-get upgrade? or is there a "testing"-branch
[13:22] <dacuoivnu> how  can i remove a programme
[13:22] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Yeah, I tought that, and thats why I uninstalled it, and installed the normal driver, but still doesnt work :S
[13:22] <draplater> Is ubuntu easy to use?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> al3x-admin: id try acpi and then head back here if no joy
[13:22] <bigmack83> jrib, i still get, "There was an error creating the symlink in /media/sda4, Error making symbolic link: Operation not permitted"
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> draplater: some say yes, some say no
[13:23] <jrib> bigmack83: can you create a file there now?
[13:23] <jrib> bigmack83: you can't put symlinks on vfat afaik
[13:23] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Ok, thanks for the help.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> draplater: its fairly simple to use, settin it up can be fun as not all hardware works immediately sometimes
[13:23] <dennda> anybody experiencing some strange behaviour of rxvt-unicode? (urxvt) like: it stays at the top left corner and doesn't accept any input
[13:24] <bigmack83> jrib, ok yea i can create a file now. and ok i will have to make the link in the cli then.
[13:24] <jollyroger> depape, yes, via  apt-get upgrade. or you can just use synaptic or the system-updater-applet
[13:24] <jrib> bigmack83: it shouldn't work via cli either, but try
[13:24] <depape> jollyroger: thanks
[13:24] <jollyroger> depape, your welcome
[13:24] <bigmack83> jrib, ok so you cant link to item in vfat period then?
[13:25] <rjm> hi
[13:25] <rjm> i upgraded to 8.10 and my usb mouse and keyboard no longer work
[13:25] <jrib> bigmack83: well maybe you can symlink to a file in the vfat partition, but you can't have the link in vfat, try and see :)
[13:25] <rjm> i get errors when booting: usb device not accepting address 13, error -71, unable to enumerate usb device on port 6
[13:25] <rjm> i've tried running dpkg-reconfigure but that does not fix the problem
[13:26] <rjm> any suggestions?
[13:26] <nilesh> hi is this the place where i need to ask my problems
[13:26] <bigmack83> jrib, well i can do a symlink. just want to make a shortcut on my Desktop linking to my music, movies, etc...
[13:26] <jrib> bigmack83: sure, that will work
[13:27] <WIGGMPk> Werid, when I double click on an archived file (like tar.gz) instead of getting the archive manager i get an error saying "There is no application installed for this file type"
[13:27] <notyjoey> anyone know of a swf editor
[13:27] <Kartagis> djupp, it didn't work
[13:27] <notyjoey> that i can use under ubuntu
[13:27] <bigmack83> jrib, k, cool. well at least i can modify files now. thanks
[13:27] <Joppu> Hello, just 1 question, Is it possible to change the "tint" of the panel icons and the application list buttons? I'm trying to use a blue backround Image and the appear as ugly white.
[13:27] <jrib> WIGGMPk: right click -> open with -> archive manager   does that work?
[13:28] <djupp> Kartagis, I guess then I'm already lost. Do you hear anything on the headphones?
[13:28] <WIGGMPk> jrib: havent tried that.. right clicking and selecting "extract here" still works.. one sec
[13:28] <nilesh> I have upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10 and now i am not able to connect to the lan
[13:28] <Jakob_the_liar> does anyone know how to use ffmpeg to strip a song at a certain point like from 2:15 to 5:50
[13:28] <Kartagis> djupp, yes
[13:28] <Jakob_the_liar> or some other program
[13:29] <Joppu> Jakob_the_liar: Why not use Audacity?
[13:29] <nilesh> can somebody tell me how do i connecto to lan frommy kubuntu INterpid
[13:29] <Jakob_the_liar> id like to know how to do it command line Joppu
[13:29] <WIGGMPk> jrib: odd, I dont get "Archive Manager" as an option, just "Open with another application"
[13:30] <djupp> Kartagis, what did you do before the problem started?
[13:30] <jrib> WIGGMPk: can you still run archive manager from a menu (or file-roller in a shell)?
[13:30] <djupp> Kartagis, e.g. Updated to Ubuntu 8.10 or installed a new app or something?
[13:30] <Joppu> Jakob_the_liar: Ok, my bad, sorry
[13:30] <woody86> does anyone know how I can shrink the swap partition?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> Jakob_the_liar: man ffmpeg (?)
[13:30] <Kartagis> djupp, nothing
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> woody86: boot to live cd then resize with gparted. backup your data first
[13:30] <djupp> Kartagis, no updates, no nothing?
[13:31] <Jakob_the_liar> obviously i've looked there
[13:31] <woody86> ActionParsnip1- ok, thanks :)
[13:31] <rjm> i upgraded to 8.10 and my usb mouse and keyboard no longer work
[13:31] <WIGGMPk> jrib: hmm what is the command to call it?
[13:31] <rjm> i've tried running dpkg-reconfigure but that does not fix the problem
[13:31] <jrib> WIGGMPk: file-roller
[13:31] <rjm> i get errors when booting: usb device not accepting address 13, error -71, unable to enumerate usb device on port 6
[13:31] <rjm> any suggestions?
[13:31] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve this problem with `aptitude update`? "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]"
[13:31] <Minion_> hey guys
[13:31] <vlt> There's a more detailed err msg: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[13:31] <Minion_> i have a question
[13:31] <vlt> 0  Dir::State::lists=lists/ Config-Item: Dir::State::cdroms=cdroms.list Config-Item: Dir::State::userstatus=status.user Config-Item: Dir::State::status=/var/lib/dpkg/status Config-Item: Dir::Cache=var/cache/apt/ Config-Item: Dir::Cache::archives=archives/ Config-Item: Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache=srcpkgcache.bin Config-Item: Dir::Cache::pkgcache=pkgcache.bin Config [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[13:31] <Dr_Willis64> rjm,  this is wireless mouse/keybord?
[13:31] <vlt> Any idea?
[13:31] <jrib> rjm: if you unplug the mouse and plug it back in, you get the same errors in dmesg and it still doesn't work?
[13:31] <WIGGMPk> jrib: yea, it runs from terminal
[13:31] <rjm> no not wireless
[13:32] <belc> 2
[13:32] <jrib> WIGGMPk: easy solution is to just right -> properties -> open with  and add archive manager then.  I don't know why you lost that setting
[13:32] <rjm> jrib - i remove the mouse and kboard from the hub and plug ir directly in - then i reboot, the boot errors disappear but theyre still not being detected
[13:32] <djupp> Kartagis, I guess it's a laptop? Did you suspend-resume?
[13:32] <WIGGMPk> jrib: /shrug, Ive given up wondering weird situations like these
[13:32] <Kartagis> djupp, nope
[13:33] <WIGGMPk> jrib: thanks, I was having a brain fart on this one
[13:33] <Kartagis> and yes, it's a laptop
[13:33] <Minion_> is it possible to reset ubuntu to its default like a fresh install?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> trying to get suspend / resume to work flawlessly can seriously dmage your health
[13:33] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  not a trivial thing as far as i know.. unless you are refering to just USER settings...
[13:34] <djupp> Kartagis, sorry, can't seem to help you, I'd try asking again in here
[13:34] <Minion_> i tell you why, i was playing around now my multiple desktops does not wrk
[13:34] <Kartagis> okay thanks anyway djupp
[13:35] <Kartagis> anyone else?
[13:35] <rjm> no one?
[13:35] <WIGGMPk> jrib: lol, my debian packages wont auto open either, what do they open with?
[13:35] <rjm> this seems like an xorg issue right?
[13:35] <djupp> Kartagis, welcome
[13:35] <jrib> WIGGMPk: gdebi
[13:35]  * earthnative growls at rhythmbox and it's dbus failings
[13:35] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  User settings are stored in their own HOME directory.. those are easially deleted
[13:35] <WIGGMPk> jrib: thanks mate
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> rjm: does it work in bios?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> rjm: does it work in live cd?
[13:36] <Minion_> then how to get new ones?
[13:36] <saam> is there other program can help me to recover all sites backup (/backup/cpbackup/daily/*.tar.gz) all files are deleted by hackers how to recover it ?
[13:36] <hacked_kernel> I want to use "trickle" to limit apt-get upgrade bandwidth, how to path apt-get as the target cmd to be executed by trickle?
[13:36] <Minion_> i think i was playing with compiz and then it stopped
[13:36] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  you delete them, log back in . and defaults get restored normally -
[13:36] <rjm> i don't have a livecd right now
[13:36] <Minion_> ok lemme try
[13:36] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  sure sounds like a compiz issue.. thats why i dont use compiz
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> saam: you can recover data quite easilty afair
[13:37] <jimcooncat> hacked_kernel: I believe its "sudo trickle apt-get ..."
[13:37] <notyjoey> anyone know of an app to edit swf files?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> saam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[13:38] <SOURdiesel> Minion_: #compiz-fusion
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> saam: looks like foremost will save you
[13:38] <hacked_kernel> jimcooncat, trickle expects something like this: (trickle -d <kb> -u <kb> <cmd>) , cmd can't take parameters
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis64: amen
[13:38] <chadeldridge> anyone here using the MSI Wind ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> chadeldridge: ive been loking at one, looks decent
[13:39] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip1: i am wondering what the compatibility with linux is .. did i understand correctly there is a specific eee pc kernel ?
[13:39] <Minion_> ok how do i delete it??
[13:39] <jimcooncat> hacked_kernel: " sudo trickle aptitude update && sudo trickle aptitude dist-upgrade": will do a stand-alone trickle that works
[13:40] <jobe> pan nzb app doesnt seem to be in the repos for ibex, is that right? anyone know about this?
[13:40] <jimcooncat> hacked_kernel: you're talking about trickle as a daemon, which I'm not familiar with
[13:40] <hacked_kernel> jimcooncat, thanks
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> chadeldridge: theres a module in it that asus refuse to surrender the code for and its causing a big stink
[13:40] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,   depends on what you want to do exacctly..  I dont know where compiz keeps all its settings some .SOMTHING directory  but i dont know where
[13:40] <Minion_> Dr_Willis64: how do i delete it?
[13:40] <Pici> jobe: pan is in the Intrepid repos.
[13:40] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip1: i wonder if the wind needs it since its not an asus machine
[13:40] <IrishDavid> hey, i have screen installed and i'm trying to use the Split command (C^a S) but it isn't working, does anyone know why?
[13:40] <Minion_> ok well maybe reinstall then
[13:40] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  thats windows thinking.. learn your os.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> chadeldridge: then i imagine it wont
[13:41] <Minion_> be back in 30 mins
[13:41] <jimcooncat> hacked_kernel: supposedly if you have the daemon running, trickle will automatically use it when you use a command like I showed
[13:41] <Minion_> ive had it 2 days give me a break
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> chadeldridge: its only needed as asus use garbage proprietary acpi hardware that they keep secret
[13:41] <Pici> !info pan | jobe
[13:41] <Minion_> i bit the bullet and going with ubuntu
[13:41] <hacked_kernel> jimcooncat, i didn't try it as a daemon, i'll try
[13:41] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  just LOOKING at the directorys  .compiz seems like a good target..  )   hint: 'ls -al' shows hidden directoruies
[13:41] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip1: ahh .. that explains some things then
[13:41] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Ok, I disabled ACPI, and no luck. Still nothing. Do you have any other solution?
[13:41] <TJ-42> The sbackup program that comes with ubuntu backups up /var/ /usr/local/ and /etc/ in addition to /home/.  This implies to me that there are important files and settings not in /home/ (I'm new).  I want to do a clean install of ubuntu 8.10, but the installer only offers me the option of keeping my /home/ partition.  What settings and files will I be losing by losing /var/, /usr/local/ and /etc/ ?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  so go reinstall if you want.. or try to fix things. :)
[13:42] <jobe> Pici: doh, ok thanks. I must have used wrong search terms :(
[13:42] <jimcooncat> hacked_kernel: using it as a daemon gives you some load-balancing, whatever. I never saw the need for it
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> chadeldridge: same sorta thing with acer. theres code for a special power module that makes everything spring to life, sucks
[13:42] <Minion_> its all about time, untill i get used to the os
[13:42] <RetUrn> γεια σας
[13:42] <chadeldridge> ActionParsnip1: makes the wind look even better
[13:42] <repete> hhlp: was just looking through the logs of the "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" session in IRC on Wednesday and I realised I didn't answer your question properly
[13:42] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  you were not very clear on  what the exact issue was either... Ifyou use compiz. you MUST use the ccsm tool to set the # of desktops. not the gnome tools
[13:43] <Dr_Willis64> !training | Minion_
[13:43] <repete> hhlp: You question was "what is the diference between ubuntu-eepc and UNR"
[13:43] <Dr_Willis64> Minion_,  that guide i just gave ya is a little old.. but its free and a good read. :)
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis64: a book? whatever next
[13:43] <jrib> IrishDavid: you are hitting shift-s, not just s right?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis64> ActionParsnip1,  Yep. :) for the 'total beginner' :)
[13:44] <IrishDavid> yes
[13:44] <repete> hhlp: The ubuntu-eeepc project is aimed more at hw support on the eeePC (such as wireless)
[13:44] <IrishDavid> jrib, yes
[13:44] <Dr_Willis64> ActionParsnip1,  he can read it while he reinstalls i guess...
[13:44] <repete> hhlp: UNR is meant to be a interface that works well on any netbook
[13:44] <RetUrn> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 8.04 and I have a problem with sending e-mails to some adresses. For instance I get this message (Error while performing operation.
[13:44] <RetUrn> RCPT TO <skipper_st​raad@hotmai​l.com> failed: 8-bit character in mailbox address "<skipper_stb??raad@hotmaib??l.com>")
[13:44] <IrishDavid> jrib, i keep holding control as well
[13:44] <RetUrn> what's wrong? can anyone help me?
[13:44] <evilspawn4> hey guys i got some files in my trash can it wont let me delete how do i delete those files?
[13:45] <Kartagis> sound comes from both speakers and earphones. any idea?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis64: as if theres no enough documentation online
[13:45] <RetUrn> I'm using the evolution mail client
[13:45] <Pici> RetUrn: It looks like you are trying to use non ASCII characters in that address.
[13:45] <jrib> IrishDavid: don't keep holding control
[13:45] <IrishDavid> jrib, fixed, stopped holding Ctrl... :)
[13:45] <IrishDavid> thanks
[13:45] <mr_KA> сорри, у мня русские буквы видны ?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis64> ActionParsnip1,  aparently theres not.. no one bothers to read them. :) we need books on tape!
[13:45] <Pici> !ru | mr_KA
[13:45] <Richard_> When i press shut down button i can see the ubuntu splash (orange bar) but it sometimes won't shut down the computer, it will go to a blank(black) screen with a blinking cursor on top left. Anyone knows why?
[13:45] <RetUrn> pici: the characters are in english....what can I do for it?
[13:45] <IrishDavid> jrib, any idea how i can get a 2x2 arrangement?
[13:45] <evilspawn4> can anyone help me delete the files in my trash can?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis64: tell me about it :(
[13:46] <chadeldridge> evilspawn4: 8.10 ?
[13:46] <evilspawn4> yep :)
[13:46] <scunizi> RetUrn: looks like there is a space in the email address.
[13:46] <Dr_Willis64> evilspawn4,  short anwer ..  'sudo rm /path/to/the/files'
[13:46] <Dr_Willis64> !trash | evilspawn4
[13:46] <jrib> IrishDavid: I think screen can't do vertical split without patches
[13:46] <marshall> does anybody have projectm working in intrepid/
[13:46] <RetUrn> hmm I'll check it out
[13:46] <marshall> ??
[13:46] <al3x-admin> ActionParsnipl: Ok, I disabled ACPI, and no luck. Still nothing. Do you have any other solution?
[13:46] <evilspawn4> ok thanks
[13:46] <IrishDavid> jrib, ok, thanks :)
[13:46] <Richard_> Dr_Willis64, When i press shut down button i can see the ubuntu splash (orange bar) but it sometimes won't shut down the computer, it will go to a blank(black) screen with a blinking cursor on top left. Anyone knows why?
[13:46] <Richard_> u know it?
[13:47] <apadox> i cant connect to wireless or wired to my router .. ubuntu 8.10. ... i am on xp now .. anyone can help
[13:47] <chadeldridge> evilspawn4: they are at ~/.local/share/Trash/
[13:47] <AdvoWork> how can i output the content/action of a cronjob to a log file, ie to see whats happening, and if its running
[13:47] <Dr_Willis64> Richard_,  sounds like a classic apci/powersave issue..  i would disable the splas stuff and hope you can see some error messages as to whats going on.
[13:47] <Dr_Willis64> Richard_,  the 'sometimes' part - is the confuseing bit.
[13:48] <marshall> does anybody have projectm working in intrepid?
[13:48] <Richard_> yes it happens 50% of times
[13:48] <RetUrn> ok I rewrote the address and now it's fine
[13:48] <RetUrn> thanks
[13:48] <RetUrn> bye bye
[13:48] <notyjoey> anyone know of an app to edit swf files? aside from installing wine and flash 8
[13:49] <Richard_> how to solve apci/powersave issue? what about 64 version?
[13:49] <Vir> hi, can anybody tell me what package contains the debugging symbols for libasound and its pcm plugins?
[13:49] <dido> hello.how to know your pc temperature.
[13:49] <rjm_> i'm still trying to fix my usb mouse and kboard not detected after upgrade to 8.1
[13:49] <jrib> IrishDavid: oh, I was wrong.  But I don't see documentation for it.  Try ctrl-a |
[13:49] <chadeldridge> dido: you can use lm-sensors
[13:49] <rjm_> i tried to do dpkg-reconfigure console-setup - it didn't fix the prob
[13:49] <shane2peru_> ok, slightly annoyed here with Ubuntu lately.
[13:50] <leohartx> is there any program which can accelerate my download ?
[13:50] <SOURdiesel> how come i can connect to my windows machine with vnc server with terminal server client on hardy.  remote desktop viewer doesn't connect.  yet on intrepid it's backwards.  wth?
[13:50] <jrib> IrishDavid: reference: http://www.nabble.com/New-screen-features-available-to8835974.html#a8891423
[13:50] <shane2peru_> my sound system is all messed up, and I tried to boot into the LiveCD and it just hangs, and doesn't boot.
[13:50] <IrishDavid> jrib, thanks
[13:50] <chadeldridge> SOURdiesel: do you have the vnc viewer installed for the remote desktop viewer or is the option grayed out ?
[13:50] <shane2peru_> I was going to re-install, now I'm thinking, I'm going to re-install, but something else
[13:51] <leohartx> is there any program which can accelerate my downloading ?
[13:51] <IrishDavid> nice one jrib
[13:51] <IrishDavid> perfect
[13:51] <chadeldridge> shane2peru_: is there a question ?
[13:51] <unimatrix9> notyjoey , swf cannot be edited even with windows, i think you can only edit fla files, wich are the source of swf...but i could be wrong
[13:51] <notyjoey> unimatrix9: ahh, i think you're right
[13:51] <Jakob_the_liar> does anyone know how to encode a youtube or any other flash vid to be able to view in fullscreen
[13:51] <notyjoey> i know you can decode swf unless its encoded in a special way
[13:51] <darkus> hi
[13:51] <shane2peru_> yes, do I need to fill out a bug report on the fact that the cd won't boot, it hangs on powernwd thing
[13:52] <chadeldridge> SOURdiesel: sudo apt-get install xvncviewer
[13:52] <darkus> i want to install lirc
[13:52] <darkus> someone to help
[13:52] <unimatrix9> jakob_the_lair, ffmpeg
[13:52] <chadeldridge> shane2peru_: normal cd or alt cd ?
[13:52] <dido> i have install lm sensors but i can not open it
[13:52] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: I had the same problem when I upgraded
[13:52] <shane2peru_> normal cd
[13:52] <KrimZon> hardy doesn't seem to be recognizing my usb floppy drive - i plug it in, its light comes on, but nothing else happens. does anyone know what to do next?
[13:52] <rjm_> noone has had this problem?
[13:52] <vergil> Krim: dmesg ?
[13:52] <chandan> Hey all. I have installed lamp server, cgilibs and cgiwrap
[13:52] <hacked_kernel> jimcooncat, would you send me your trickled.conf ?
[13:52] <chandan> But, my cgi program is not running on the server
[13:53] <SOURdiesel> chadeldridge: i'm on hardy now.  remote viewer tries to connect but tells me host not accepting.  terminal server client connects.
[13:53] <scunizi> KrimZon: open Places/Computer and see if it's mounted in there.
[13:53] <vergil> krim: it won't typically show up as a fd*, but as a sd*
[13:53] <chandan>  I have edited the file, etc-apache2-site-enabled-000-default
[13:53] <vergil> and you won't see any partitions or relevant information unless there's a floppy inserted
[13:53] <chadeldridge> !enter | chandan
[13:53] <unimatrix9> jakob_the_lair, ffmpeg -i yourvideo.flv nameofyournewfile.mpeg , ps : i think mplayer can play your flv file fullscreen anyway, if you have codecs
[13:53] <scunizi> !tab | vergil
[13:53] <chandan>  I have changed /usr/lib/cgi-bin to /var/www/cgi-bin at the Serv Alias lines.
[13:53] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: I'm working on some rather new hardware, I installed Hardy, had many problems, upgraded to intrepid when it was in RC stage everything worked great
[13:53] <WIGGMPk> notyjoey: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242102 it might help you
[13:54] <KrimZon> ah, it looks like it's sdb
[13:54] <unimatrix9> what would be an good replacement of photoshop besides gimp?
[13:54] <vergil> ubottu: depending on your client, yest
[13:54] <KrimZon> ah, sweet, it shows up in computer
[13:54] <chadeldridge> shane2peru_: did you run the cd check before install ?
[13:54] <legend2440> shane2peru_: http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php
[13:54] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: then they upgraded kernel, and I have had problems ever since, was going to re-install, and can't seem to get the cd's to boot, they fail at the powernwd module.
[13:54] <jimcooncat> hacked_kernel: can I pm you?
[13:54] <IrishDavid> jrib, thanks again, all working perfectly
[13:54] <chandan> ubottu: Thats fine. Can u help me out on that topic. I need it urggently.
[13:54] <scunizi> unimatrix9: gimpshop for gimp with the menus rearranged to look like photoshop, krita is another
[13:54] <hacked_kernel> jimcooncat, sure
[13:54] <vergil> amazing, you come to a channel, offer help, and get a bunch of flak because you don't type out a full nick.
[13:55] <dvyjones> My souynd is only coming from the system speaker (inside the box), but not from my headphones. Any idea why?
[13:55] <chadeldridge> shane2peru_: sounds like a cd issue honestly, but not entirely sure, may want to check that disc
[13:55] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: I must say that I didn't, however I highly doubt it is the cd's I have done this so many times it isn't even funny, since Breezy days.
[13:55] <apadox> i cant connect to wireless or wired to my router .. ubuntu 8.10. ... i am on xp now .. anyone can help
[13:55] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: I will check them though, I guess I shouldn't let the obvious go undone
[13:55] <KrimZon> well... it did do
[13:55] <bobbiem> help installing ubuntu 8.10
[13:55] <chadeldridge> shane2peru_:  :-D
[13:56] <dido> is there 3d games in ubuntu
[13:56] <notyjoey> WIGGMPk: thanks, looking in to that
[13:56] <scunizi> vergil: there's 1300 people in here. if you type out the nick the person you're talking to will get a highlight and actually notice that you are talking to them... courtsey
[13:56] <_pingu> Is it possible getting update notification without using the panel/bar? F.e. when i use Avant Window Navigator instead of the panel.
[13:56] <WIGGMPk> notyjoey: np, sorry I dont have more info
[13:56] <unimatrix9> dido : yes
[13:56] <vergil> *shrug*
[13:56] <ansichart> You must construct additional pylons!
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> bobbiem: in what way?
[13:56] <dvyjones> bobbiem: I would recommend 8.04 unless you're sure what you're ding...
[13:56] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: is there a way to check the cd without having to boot off it?  can I check the cd from right here within Ubuntu
[13:57] <dido> unimtrix9;give me some names
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> dvyjones: why not intrepid?
[13:57] <dvyjones> It's not that stable yet...
[13:57] <execut3> I'm getting "lockfile creation failed" thrown at my bash, I have lockfile-create /var/lock/ntpdate-ifup running 6 times, and lockfile-create /var/lock/ntpdate-ifup. can I safely kill it ?
[13:57] <Jakob_the_liar> what do i need for .rar?
[13:57] <chadeldridge> shane2peru_: not that i am aware of, but i am not sure
[13:57] <vergil> KrimZon: Best of luck. If you need any other help, I'm sure you might get it here. If not, search the LDP. I'm in there a few times and I think the contact information has been updated.
[13:57] <ikonia> !rar >jak
[13:57] <notyjoey> WIGGMPk: its ok, i'll try to decode it or see if one of my coworkers still has the fla source file and use flash mx to do what i need to
[13:57] <shane2peru_> chadeldridge: ok, thanks
[13:57] <ikonia> !rar > Jakob_the_liar
[13:57] <evilspawn4> hey guys tell me if im typeing this in right sudo rm /cd ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[13:58] <Ximal> anyone here able to tell me why i cannot find vmware player or workstation in the add/remove section anymore ?
[13:58] <chadeldridge> evilspawn4: no ..
[13:58] <evilspawn4> ok how am i supposed to type it in?
[13:58] <unimatrix9> dido : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[13:58] <chadeldridge> evilspawn4: sudo rm ~/.local/share/Trash/
[13:58] <shane2peru_> legend2440: I don't think this is a sensors issue.  :)
[13:58] <evilspawn4> oooh ok ty
[13:58] <chadeldridge> np
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> Jakob_the_liar: sudo apt-get install unrar
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> !rar | Jakob_the_liar
[13:59] <_seraphim_> Ximal: if you want vmware go to the vmware site..
[13:59] <legend2440> dido: http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php
[13:59] <unimatrix9> dido : depends on what kind of hardware you have, one heavy game would be https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games#Enemy%20Territory:%20Quake%20Wars
[13:59] <legend2440> shane2peru_: sorry meant that for someone else
[13:59] <unimatrix9> but there are some open source 3 d games too
[13:59] <runpain2_> how do i put a sound wav file in the sound directory and get it to work like when i login and out
[14:00] <shane2peru_> legend2440: ha ha, no prob.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> unimatrix9: frets on fire, urban terror
[14:00] <evilspawn4> sudo rm ~/.local/share/Trash ? cuz thats what im typeing in and its still now working
[14:00] <Kartagis> sound comes from both speakers and earphones. any idea?
[14:00] <runpain2_> i put it in the folder but it doesnt work
[14:00] <unimatrix9> i never got urban terror to run ...
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> unimatrix9: tuxracing
[14:00] <unimatrix9> :P
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> unimatrix9: theres a script to set it up for you
[14:00] <runpain2_> how do i put a sound wav file in the sound directory and get it to work like when i login and out
[14:00] <runpain2_> how do i put a sound wav file in the sound directory and get it to work like when i login and out
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> unimatrix9: theres dark lore or something like that, online mech warrior type affair, fun
[14:00] <_seraphim_> Kartagis: what type of audio board do you have?
[14:01] <runpain2_> i put it in the folder but it doesnt work
[14:01] <runpain2_> oops
[14:01] <evilspawn4> im getting this error rm: cannot remove `/home/evilspawn4/.local/share/Trash': Is a directory
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: check you sound alerts
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: and choose that sound
[14:01] <galantvr4> what directory is the sudoers file held in?
[14:01] <runpain2_> ok i have
[14:01] <ay^> evilspawn4: you need to use the -r flag for rm to remove dirs
[14:01] <gammy> evilspawn4: you must supply the -r flag. "rm -r <directory>". See "man rm"
[14:01] <runpain2_> but the one i choose wont work
[14:01] <evilspawn4> ok ty
[14:01] <_seraphim_> Kartagis: use lspci command
[14:02] <runpain2_> ActionParsnip1,
[14:02] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, lspci then see what there?,
[14:02] <_seraphim_> Kartagis: yes.. type lspci in console
[14:02] <dvyjones> My sound is only coming from the system speaker (inside the box), but not from my headphones. Any idea why?
[14:03] <gammy> ay^: That's the second time we say the same thing. :)
[14:03] <_seraphim_> Kartagis: and check what it sys for Audio
[14:03] <ay^> gammy: we think alike :)
[14:03] <Squeakyneb> Hey everyone. I want to make a bootable floppy with just a linux terminal, no excess apps. How do I do this? All the tutorials I find refer to mkbootdisk, a red hat feature. HELP!
[14:03] <gammy> :)
[14:03] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[14:03] <gammy> Squeakyneb: I would recommend you use tomsrtbt. Google it.
[14:03] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, what ubuntu version do you have?
[14:04] <Squeakyneb> ok, thanks gammy, bck in 5
[14:04] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, 8.04 or 6.10 ?
[14:04] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, hardy heron
[14:04] <execut3> I'm getting "lockfile creation failed" thrown at my bash, I have lockfile-create /var/lock/ntpdate-ifup running 6 times, and lockfile-create /var/lock/ntpdate-ifup. can I safely kill it ?
[14:04] <slayton> Squeakyneb, not really a ubuntu topic, try #linux
[14:04] <ay^> Squeakyneb: this is just a guess but does mkboot do any of the same as mkbootdsk?
[14:04] <philippe_> For those it may interest, comparaison benchmark between Mac OS X and Ubuntu 8.10 : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_macosx&num=1
[14:04] <KDB9000> has anyone tried doing updates with compiz-gnome? It keeps failing for me and is now reporting a broken package.
[14:05] <erUSUL> Squeakyneb: just download any floppy distribution like tombstone linux
[14:05] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, if you open volume control do you see 2 tabs (playback & Switches) ?
[14:05] <gammy> philippe_: Woo I run it on a mac mini too.
[14:06] <gammy> philippe_: I must read that. In my experience ubuntu is a /lot/ faster, mainly due to more flexible scheduling.
[14:06] <HDready> question; i've installed streamtuner and enterd this cmd at the right place x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q -d /home/username/Musikdirectoy -r .... now i want to add a parameter that streamripper stops ripping after lets say 2gb?
[14:06] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, devices and sounds and system bell
[14:06] <Crosswing> Hello. I'm trying to enable net bonding support, however I get this error when typing 'make modules': make[3]: *** No rule to make target `drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.o', needed by `drivers/net/bonding/bonding.o'. Stop.
[14:06] <_hase> Hi helpful people, I'm experiencing a problem.  Whenever I boot up, Ubuntu wants to run a check of the hardrive (i'm assuming that's what it's doing anyway) and while I always try to let Ubuntu do it's thing, if I let it run this check it takes me through a bunch of screens and then leaves me at what looks like a black and white version of terminal logged in as root, and it says I need to run fschk or something like that manually, well the
[14:06] <_hase>  one time I tried to do that it gave me errors and asked me if I wanted to clear or erase the inode or something, is there some command I type into terminal to make all this go away?  thanks in advance
[14:06] <HDready> what do i need to add?
[14:06] <techman224> Hey everyone, creative has released new drivers for x-fi
[14:06] <techman224> they work
[14:07] <gammy> Crosswing: isn't the bonding module comes as a *module* ? Why are you compiling it by hand?
[14:07] <dfgas> dfgas@PD2800DUAL:~/temp/compiz-mpx-ir$ aplay
[14:07] <dfgas> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[14:07] <dfgas> aplay: main:583: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[14:07] <dfgas> dfgas@PD2800DUAL:~/temp/compiz-mpx-ir$
[14:07] <runpain2_> ActionParsnip1, when i open the directory where the orignal file is and move cursor over it it plays but when i put it in any folder and change the soud to that file it wont play
[14:07] <FloodBot3> dfgas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:07] <joaopinto> _hase, please run: fsck -A -y
[14:07] <dfgas> i am sick of this, how do i fix this to where more than one thing can use sound
[14:07] <joaopinto> _hase, I  may lose some files because your FS is corrupted
[14:08] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, read the following file /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: ah, is it the same file type as other system sounds ( Im fairly clueless here as i dont use silly sounds )
[14:08] <gammy> dfgas: Something isn't playing nicely. Probably adobe's nonfree flash player.
[14:08] <joaopinto> dfgas, change your sound settings to use pulseaudio
[14:08] <ddy> Hi, I'm trying to compile gdb armulator and when i type ./configure, i get the following error - Invalid configuration `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized
[14:08] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, you will find there the drivers you can use for ich7
[14:08] <runpain2_> yes a wav file
[14:08] <draplater> adobe flash player make my computer slow
[14:08] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, what computer d you have?
[14:08] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, I must add one thing. this happened suddenly
[14:09] <Crosswing> gammy: I've read that I have to recompile the kernel with the bonding module support; so I did 'make config' and enabled it and 'make modules' gives me that error. I'm not sure if it is the only way, though. Do you have any ideas?
[14:09] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, Toshiba A200
[14:09] <gammy> Crosswing: Well ubuntu takes care of that for you most of the time
[14:09] <scunizi> ddy: looks like you have the 64 bit version of ubutu installed.. is that right?
[14:09] <dfgas> joaopinto, it was, still the same
[14:09] <runpain2_> I think can i make it in to the smae if not like mp3 to wave
[14:09] <ikonia> Crosswing: the bonding module is already enabled in the ubuntu server kernel
[14:09] <ddy> yes
[14:09] <dfgas> gammy, its not open
[14:09] <gammy> Crosswing: I would read up specifically on ubuntu and bonding, not general stuff. I think you just need the ifenslave package.
[14:10] <gammy> dfgas: Then something else is /not/ using dmix as it should.
[14:10] <Crosswing> ikonia: unfortunately I am running Kubuntu right now, there will be Ubuntu server on that box in a few hours, I hope.
[14:10] <_hase> joaopinto, when you say I might lose some files because my FS is corrupted, does that mean I'll lose them as soon as I run that command?  When I tried to do the thing it said before I ended up that screen for the xorg being wrong and I hate that screen
[14:10] <ikonia> Crosswing you can still install the server kernel on kubuntu
[14:10] <lakitu> hi. how do i output to file? e.g. grep -l pattern file
[14:10] <scunizi> ddy: not really sure about this .. but the error makes me think that either you're not throwing the right switches to compile the program or it won't compile in a 64bit environ.  only 32
[14:10] <_hase> Like, it's not going to mess up the xorg to run that command, is basically what I meant to ask
[14:10] <ikonia> Crosswing: it's easier/better/supported rather than trying to build your own kernel
[14:10] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[14:11] <Crosswing> ikonia: I see.
[14:11] <gammy> lakitu: Pipe it with ">". grep -l foo  > output
[14:11] <joaopinto> _hase, yes, you may lose some files by running the command, but that is the only way to fix your filesystem right now
[14:11] <Crosswing> ikonia: how exactly do I install the server kernel?
[14:11] <erUSUL> lakitu: grep -l pattern file > outfile
[14:11] <_hase> ok, thanks joaopinto, I'll do it, I just hope it doesn't delete all my wife's music
[14:11] <lakitu> hm, i thought i tried - maybe i malformed my search
[14:11] <ikonia> Crosswing: open the package manager, search for "kernel" and you'll see the server kernel
[14:11] <kcrly> tried
[14:11] <lakitu> ok thanks, gammy & erUSUL
[14:11] <lakitu> =)
[14:11] <joaopinto> _hase, the corruption risk is mostly for files beeing changed during the corruption event
[14:11] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, what am i looking for?
[14:12] <julian__> which kernel to install that my ubuntu 32bit recognizes my 4 gig ram?
[14:12] <gammy> lakitu: note that won't pipe stderr to it. Only stdout.
[14:12] <_hase> "WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[14:12] <_hase> SEVERE filesystem damage." carry on?
[14:12] <gammy> lakitu: (Ie, you won't get errors in the file)
[14:12] <joaopinto> julian__, you can use the server kernel
[14:12] <Crosswing> ikonia: I'm forced to do it through console, I don't have physical access.
[14:12] <_hase> Is it supposed to say that?
[14:12] <ikonia> _hase no
[14:12] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, at the end of the file add "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba"
[14:12] <scientes> how do i grep a whole folder of files for a line?
[14:12] <lakitu> gammy, ok
[14:12] <ikonia> Crosswing ok, so apt-cache search kernel
[14:12] <joaopinto> _hase, no, you are supposed to run the command from rescue mode
[14:12] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, without the quotes
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> julian__: 32bit should, id go 64bit with that much ram
[14:12] <_hase> what's resuce mode?
[14:12] <draplater> what's the differences between generic and rt?
[14:12] <_hase> and no don't run it now?  k
[14:12] <ikonia> Crosswing: then apt-get install "kernel-file" where kernel-file is the correct package name
[14:12] <jenka> How can I get apache online??
[14:12] <gammy> lakitu: If you want to include errors, do some magic, "> output 2&>1"
[14:12] <scientes> some mime file has some crap entries and keeps me from adding my own
[14:12] <ikonia> draplater: real time
[14:12] <erUSUL> scientes: grep -R pattern dir/
[14:12] <julian__> ActionParsnip1: i have some huge trouble with 64bit and drivers
[14:12] <dfgas> gammy, well, pidgin uses alsa or oss, vlc uses alsa or oss, flash seems to use alsa or flash too
[14:12] <joaopinto> _hase, it's an option on your boot list, but also it's the prompt you are actually getting because of the corruption
[14:12] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, after that you will need to reboot computer
[14:12] <ikonia> das_maze: real time clock processing (good for things like music recording)
[14:13] <dfgas> gammy, same with vbox as well
[14:13] <jenka> How can I get apache online??
[14:13] <Crosswing> ikonia: that generates a lot of output, going to look at it.
[14:13] <Squeakyneb> Gammy:thanks for the hint about tomsrtbt. I'm on a laptop at the moment, so no floppy right now to test it, ut thanks anyway.
[14:13] <ikonia> draplater real time clock processing (good for things like music recording)
[14:13] <gammy> lakitu: Erm I meant "> output 2>&1".
[14:13] <ikonia> jenka install it it should auto start
[14:13] <_hase> I'm kind of nervous to do it, cause if It messes up my xorg and I can't log back into the chat I won't have anyway to find help
[14:13] <gammy> Squeakyneb: Sure.
[14:13] <dfgas> can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[14:13] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, after reboot you should see in volume control a switcses tab
[14:13] <lakitu> gammy: wow, now it worked. =/ user error. thanks - i'm good
[14:13] <ikonia> _hase back up your xorg.conf file
[14:13] <gammy> lakitu: :).
[14:13] <ay^> _hase: install irssi, command line irc-client
[14:13] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, and?
[14:14] <ay^> _hase: and backup xorg.conf ;P
[14:14] <_hase> ikonia, I hate to sound like a windows noob, but do I back the xorg just by copying and pasting?
[14:14] <Squeakyneb> jenka:apache gennerally puts itself online straight away. open a web browser an go to http://localhost
[14:14] <ay^> _hase: yep thats how its done eaily ;)
[14:14] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, when you whant to use the headset only select the Headphone from the switches tab and mute the Front from the playback tab
[14:14] <ikonia> _hase: no need to be ashamed of being new, just copy the /etc/X11//xorg.conf file to a new file so that you have a "copy" of the file
[14:14] <_hase> thanks!
[14:14] <thomas_sch> what for a driver is used for a rt61 under kubuntu 8?
[14:14] <ay^> _hase: we've all been noobs, especially me
[14:14] <scunizi> _hase: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[14:15] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, this should do the trick
[14:15] <runpain2_> ActionParsnip1, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[14:15] <philippe_> julian__, you need 64 bits version if you want full 4 gigabyte. kernel change won't change anything
[14:15] <Squeakyneb> jenka: are you on a network/LAN?
[14:15] <legend2440> julian__: http://samiux.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/how-to-use-4-gb-ram-on-a-32-bit-ubuntu/
[14:15] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, is there no other way?
[14:15] <X4D> Hello, what's the best way to repair permissions on ubuntu? Or to make files created in one folder to inherit the permissions of the parent directory?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: yikes thats crazy
[14:15] <jenka> Yes
[14:15] <_hase> thank you to everyone helping out, i'm running "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" that scunizi suggested
[14:15] <runpain2_> what causes that to happen when i run test
[14:15] <ay^> _hase: do that, and good luck to you!
[14:15] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, sorry..i had the same problem with my laptop
[14:15] <TuxSympathiser> is it possible to install ubuntu by boot camp on a mac, I already have windows installed
[14:16] <erUSUL> X4D: for the later do "sudo chmod +g dir"
[14:16] <Squeakyneb> jenka: go to another computer on the lan and goto http://<server i>
[14:16] <_hase> i hate how the terminal doesn't say if it worked when stuff works, double checking to the xorg backup and then I'm going to reboot into rescue mode
[14:16] <PerSeL> anyone here can tell me how do i install full pack of Russian language? what i type in terminal?
[14:16] <savid> WTF?  my system is using 50% of CPU,  but  top and gnome-system-monitor both show that all processes are at 0 cpu.
[14:16] <jenka> server i?
[14:16] <Crosswing> ikonia: I am going to install 'linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-16-server', however I think my kernel version is 2.6.20
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> _hase: in linux, no news is good news
[14:16] <Squeakyneb> jenka: server ip*
[14:16] <ay^> _hase: heh thats how it says it went without errors ;P
[14:16] <soundray> runpain2_: can you repeat your problem (I've just joined)
[14:16] <jenka> ok
[14:16] <_seraphim_> Kartagis, if taht does not work then you will need to use other driver (instead of toshiba) but this is by testing
[14:16] <ikonia> Crosswing no
[14:16] <jenka> thx!
[14:16] <_hase> ok, all backed up, and I installed the command line irc thing
[14:16] <ikonia> Crosswing that is a modules package
[14:16] <runpain2_> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[14:16] <Squeakyneb> jenka: did that work?
[14:16] <_hase> thanks everyone hopefully this works out
[14:16] <ay^> _hase: remember freenode and #ubuntu :)
[14:16] <erUSUL> X4D: for the later do "sudo chmod g+s dir" sorry
[14:17] <jenka> I dont know I hvnt acces to another computer right now...
[14:17] <runpain2_> when i try to test from sound preferances
[14:17] <soundray> runpain2_: ah, not what I thought it was, sorry.
[14:17] <Crosswing> ikonia: linux-image-2.6.24-16-server then?
[14:17] <scunizi> _hase: now you should practice using irssi to learn how to load it and log into a server then log into this channel..
[14:17] <runpain2_> yet i here beep from this room
[14:17] <ikonia> Crosswing better
[14:17] <X4D> erUSUL: thanks I'll try that
[14:18] <Squeakyneb> jenka: ah, k. Lets assume it is working. You need to setup your router for port forwarding. try 10.1.1.1 or 192.168.1.1
[14:18] <ddy> gotta go. thnx
[14:18] <soundray> Please, can I have a recommendation. Of the various WYSIWYG HTML editors, which one creates the cleanest code, using CSS?
[14:18] <thomas_sch> what for a driver is used for a rt61 under kubuntu 8?
[14:18] <Squeakyneb> jenka:you want your router to forward port 80 to the servers ip address.
[14:18] <thomas_sch> somebody has to know
[14:19] <thomas_sch> modrobe -l|grep rt61
[14:19] <jenka> ok
[14:19] <runpain2_> when i try to play a sound file it wont play now Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[14:19] <PerSeL> anyone here can help me to install full russian language pack? i just want to know what i have to type in terminal...
[14:19] <Squeakyneb> jenka:some routers call port forwarding virtual server
[14:19] <soundray> thomas_sch: rt61pci.ko
[14:19] <thomas_sch> thx i knew it
[14:19] <thomas_sch> thx soundray
[14:19] <scunizi> jenka: just be aware that some isp's block port 80 so you might have to change the port to another.
[14:19] <soundray> thomas_sch: immer gern
[14:20] <jenka> should i open port 80 on my router?
[14:20] <truszx> has anyone else had sounds problems since upgrading to 8.10?
[14:20] <runpain2_> change to context analog
[14:20] <erUSUL> PerSeL: sudo apt-get install language-pack-ru ?
[14:20] <runpain2_> it worked
[14:20] <scunizi> jenka: try it and see if it works.. if it doesn't then you'll have to make changes.
[14:20] <thomas_sch> soundray: ubuntu usern zu helfen ist für mich schwer da ich kein ubuntu hab :)
[14:20] <jenka> Ok
[14:20] <truszx> at the login screen I get the drum sound, vlc plays sound to video but amaok  is having a fit
[14:20] <Squeakyneb> jenka: web servers use port 80 by default. you can use any port, but then you will have to go to <server>:<port>
[14:20] <ay^> !de | thomas_sch
[14:20] <truszx> and none of the tests work in gnome sound configuration
[14:21] <thomas_sch> I'Äm sry
[14:21] <soundray> thomas_sch: okay... sorry, I should have stuck to English
[14:21] <Squeakyneb> jenka:but you will have to open a port somewhere
[14:21] <mikosee> I am running the latest ubuntu 64 on my laptop. It was working fine, and then one boot the progress bar got stuck. I reset and that fixed it a few times. I used module assistant to to build alsa after the fact. That was making /sbin/modprobe fail on startup, so I removed alsa base from /etc/modprob.d/ using the live cd. I reboot and I got this loading bar issue again, same %, reset doesnt appear to fix it now.
[14:21] <PerSeL> urUSUL: will it install full pack of the language? like interface, typing etc...?
[14:21] <jenka> Ok
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> mikosee: id check your hard drive health
[14:22] <mikosee> scratch that, loading kernel drivers is saying /sbin/modprobe abnormally terminated.
[14:22] <mikosee> Its booting :) just takes forever.
[14:22] <erUSUL> PerSeL: i spect it to pull most stuff needed
[14:22] <truszx> and none of the tests work in gnome sound configuration
[14:23] <mikosee> so I assume the alsa i built is bad, how do i stop it from loading
[14:23] <cyphase> has usb-creator worked for anyone?
[14:23] <Squeakyneb> jenka: i have to go. sorry. I might see you later. Someone here will be able to help you. Good luck with your server.
[14:23] <jenka> thx
[14:24] <Squeakyneb> Jenka: To acess your server, users will need your routers ip address, goto whatismyip.com
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> cyphase: what is it?
[14:24] <Squeakyneb> bye
[14:24] <jenka> ok
[14:24] <Deadboy> pleas look this video !! i need views :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTlrGKojGiA and sorry Admins four spam :P
[14:24] <cyphase> ActionParsnip1: System -> Administration -> Create a USB startup disk
[14:24] <aleka> The version of vim in the ubuntu repos does not support Syntax?
[14:24] <aleka> The version of vim in the ubuntu repos does not support Syntax?
[14:24] <mikosee> how do i make the alsa-base I built using module-assistant not boot at startup?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> cyphase: oic (i run kde so its different for me)
[14:25] <aleka> sorry for the double post..
[14:25] <erUSUL> aleka: vim-full also enable it in your ~/.vimrc
[14:25] <jrib> aleka: install the "vim" or "vim-gnome" package
[14:26] <aleka> erUSUL: as in "set vim-full" in my ~/.vimrc?
[14:26]  * ActionParsnip1 uses nano
[14:26] <aleka> jrib: on a box without an x-server
[14:27] <jrib> aleka: vim-nox
[14:27] <erUSUL> aleka: no; vim-full is a package. The keywrod in vimrc is "syntax on" or something like that
[14:27] <Kartagis> _seraphim_, thanks. I'll try that
[14:27] <X4D> is umask on a user basis or directory ?
[14:28] <gammy> philippe_: Not a very interesting test. System response time and more desktop-related stuff was not taken into consideration at all.
[14:28] <erUSUL> aleka: confirmed a line like "syntax on" will do it
[14:28] <jrib> aleka: though I'm not immediately sure of the difference between the vim and vim-nox packages
[14:28] <jrib> X4D: user
[14:29] <jenka> How can I get apache online??
[14:29] <_cb> In Windows I used to use Ghost to insur I could recover all my programs and settings. (Data is backed differently). How do I do that i Ubuntu? How do I know where Ubuntu puts things at? (Ie I have no idea where Evolution is storing my mail at)
[14:29] <philippe_> gammy, It's better than no test. :P Ubuntu is not that bad I think so. Especially that Mac OS X is optimized over a specific architecture and Ubuntu can manage many of them
[14:29] <jrib> !lamp > jenka
[14:29] <jatt>  hi there is an applet in ubuntu which shows the current available wireless connections, do you know the name of this applet?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> _cb: dd is good
[14:29] <aleka> erUSUL: Thanks... will install vim full then :)
[14:29] <jatt> it was on my panel, but somehow it dissapeared..
[14:29] <X4D> erUSUL: the command you suggested "sudo chmod g+s" does it apply to subdirectories created after running the command?
[14:29] <erUSUL> _cb: use clonezilla or partimage as ghost replacement
[14:30] <erUSUL> X4D: not sure but i do not think so
[14:30] <scunizi> _cb: use "partimage".. its kinda like ghost.. just images one partition at a time..
[14:30] <gammy> philippe_: Yeah. However after using linux(not uniquely ubuntu) and os x for four years on machines with little RAM, linux is far, far, FAR more responsive than os x.
[14:30] <jcidaho> hey. Anyone using the vuze package? My torrents never download for some reason - something somewhere is broken with it
[14:30] <jrib> aleka: you said you didn't want things related to X?  vim-full just pulls in vim-gnome
[14:30] <gammy> philippe_: In my peronal opinion I'd actually claim os x to be almost ten times slower when it comes to user response under high loads.
[14:30] <aleka> erUSUL: negative on the vim-full package... it's got a bunch of gnome-dependencies and I am using it from a terminal
[14:31] <gammy> philippe_: Interesting read though. Thanks for the link.
[14:31] <erUSUL> aleka: use the vim-nox sugested by jrib
[14:31] <philippe_> gammy, Ok! Yeah np
[14:31] <Lord_Nightmare> question: I just installed the xfonts-jmk package, but I don't see the Neep (alt) and modd fonts in the xchat or fontmatrix lists, even after running defoma-reconfigure
[14:31] <jin> when you'r listing the file in nautilus in compact mode, how can you change the filename length to display? Because right now Nautilus truncate the filename (for long filenames)
[14:31] <X4D> erUSUL: it seems not, is there any alternative way force permissions to whatever is created inside the specified directory?
[14:31] <Lord_Nightmare> what am i doing wrong?
[14:31] <tsukimio> join #linuxfr
[14:32] <erUSUL> X4D: no that i know of
[14:32] <Lord_Nightmare> tsukimio: was that directed at me?
[14:32] <erUSUL> X4D: maybe using ACL's or extended atributes
[14:32] <jatt>  hi there is an applet in ubuntu which shows the current available wireless connections, do you know the name of this applet?
[14:32] <jenka> How can I get lamp online?? pls help!
[14:32] <erUSUL> !info eicel
[14:32] <SlimeyPete> !lamp
[14:33] <LjL> jatt, doesn't the plain networkmanager applet do that?
[14:33] <scunizi> !permissions | X4D
[14:33] <pc05> hi.....
[14:33] <jrib> erUSUL: eiciel (I hate this package name too)
[14:33] <erUSUL> jrib: thanks ;)
[14:33] <X4D> erUSUL: ok thanks, maybe setting up a script to rectify permissions in a directory daily could work¿?
[14:34] <erUSUL> !info eiciel > X4D
[14:34] <erUSUL> X4D: yep a bit hacky but...
[14:34] <jatt>  hi there is an applet in ubuntu which shows the current available wireless connections, do you know the name of this applet?
[14:34] <Myrtti> jatt: nm-applet
[14:35] <erUSUL> jatt: is the nm-applet (Network Manager applet)
[14:35] <scunizi> jatt: network manager.. or nm-applet
[14:35] <CosmicB> !vakt
[14:35] <russell__> I have a big question: If I completely wipe my notebook hard drive -thereby totally removing vista. will ubuntu be able to use the hardware in my notebook?
[14:35] <jatt> scunizi: great! that was what I was looking for, thank you.
[14:35] <LjL> russell__: uh... not anymore than if you had vista installed - what makes you think otherwise?
[14:35] <cyphase> Has anyone been able to create a live USB image?
[14:36] <ay^> russell__: that depends on what hardware is there
[14:36] <sschaefer> cyphase: debootstrap
[14:36] <maxb__> How can I temporarily disable the hal/gnome automounter? When I'm running gparted it tries to mount devices whenever gparted finishes an operation
[14:36] <russell__> LjL: I don't understand your response
[14:37] <russell__> ay^: How do find out if my hardware will still work?
[14:37] <cyphase> sschaefer: i mean with usb-creator
[14:37] <LjL> russell__, Ubuntu doesn't care whether or not Vista is installed. your hardware will be supported to the same extent under Ubuntu, regardless of Vista being installed.
[14:37] <Lord_Nightmare> sorry to reask, but I want to condense my entire question into one line: I just installed the xfonts-jmk package, but I don't see the Neep (alt) and modd fonts in the xchat or fontmatrix lists, even after running defoma-reconfigure. The font DOES show up in xfontsel, so this is possibly a bitmap vs vector font issue. What am I doing wrong?
[14:37] <erUSUL> russell__: it makes no difference as of hardware supported by ubuntu the fact that vista is installed or not in the machine
[14:39] <russell__> That's great I can go totally linux on this machine. However that's kind of sad that I wan't to totally replace an OS that I paid for
[14:39] <Dedi> wtf is up with usb. i have to reboot more than twice a day now because usb keyboard stops to work, no new plugged-in device works
[14:40] <scunizi> russell__: If you want you can dual boot or wipe the drive and install.  Run the live cd first to make sure that ubuntu supports all your hardware..
[14:40] <jimcooncat> russell__: I had to replace my '93 honda I paid for with an '08 toyota. I didn't get that sad.
[14:40] <gammy> http://m0sia.ru/gallery2/d/40-2/Linus+Torvalds+in+a+Speedo.jpg NICE
[14:41] <Laibsch> Why are there no jigdo files for the live CD of intrepid at http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/intrepid/ ?
[14:42] <Pici> Laibsch: Because the liveCD is mostly made up of one large file and it doesnt make sense to have a jigdo for that.
[14:42] <erUSUL> Laibsch: a question for the mirror's admin i guess ??
[14:42] <Dedi> well, who could help with this usb sh*problem, im really getting tired about it
[14:42] <adaran> does intrepid support xen?
[14:43] <Laibsch> Pici: Alright.  Thanks.
[14:43] <jonathon> i have a question you might know how to answer... say someone is ssh'd into a box... and you would like to observe that activity real time is this possible?
[14:43] <Laibsch> erUSUL: Pici's answer makes sense to me
[14:43] <Guest43052> hello
[14:44] <bobbiem> can someone help me with installing ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[14:44] <erUSUL> Laibsch: :)
[14:44] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[14:44] <_seraphim_> bobbiem, what exactly do you want to know?
[14:44] <Akazawa> I moved my home directory from my old hard drive to my new hard drive and now whenever I try to log in I gret tons of errors and if I look into the error it says its because permission denied. I did chown the directory though, so what else am I missing?
[14:45] <KDB9000> I need some help. I have a problem with compiz-gnome, it won't update, I can't repair it (it is broken right now), I can't reinstall it, I can't remove it, and I can't install anything else until this is fixed.
[14:45] <runpain2__> does anybody here know haow to get the light for the wireless on and of switch to turn to blue when on on the laptop switch
[14:45] <Aquahallic> can someone tell me what's a good program to use to take a bunch of pics and put them on a cd to play in a dvd player as a slideshow??
[14:45] <bobbiem> i have 6.06 LTS. I am new to ubuntu and how things work. do you have any ideas?
[14:45] <scunizi> Akazawa: depends on how you copied the /home.. did you get all the hidden directories? and did you rename the original /home to /homeold?  google for how to do this right
[14:45] <jak0b> Why does 8.04 require me to install LILO instead of GRUB if I choose a Custom LVM partition setup? It installs GRUB automatically if I do auto-LVM ! ????
[14:45] <_seraphim_> bobbiem, the best thing is to download the 8.04 iso and burnit to a cd
[14:46] <_seraphim_> bobbiem, after that just boot from that cd and do a fresh install
[14:46] <bobbiem> i did that but i cant seem to get it open and installed
[14:46] <runpain2__> i have a Hp Pavilion Dv6747cl amd turion 64x2 prossesor
[14:47] <Akazawa> scunizi: I copied the hidden directories from the new home to the home I was copying so it would already have the configuratuions and I renamed everything correctly
[14:47] <runpain2__> ar2425 chipset wireless which all things seem to work now except that
[14:47] <_seraphim_> bobbiem, what do you mean?
[14:47] <sudobash> how is the 8.04 to 8.10 going? Anyone done a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and get any unwanted results or anything?
[14:47] <bobbiem> i get it now.
[14:47] <_seraphim_> bobbiem, does not boot after install?
[14:47] <Ohmu> All, how do I view all the computers leeching off my wireless, and track how much they're pulling?
[14:47] <scunizi> Akazawa: did you make the change in fstab?
[14:48] <bobbiem> i am going to try again, thank for your help
[14:48] <_seraphim_> sudobash, i realy don't recomend upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[14:48] <Akazawa> scunizi: what change do I need to make? I copied form one hard drive to the new one. that way everythign is the same
[14:48] <sudobash> hahah
[14:48] <_seraphim_> sudobash, better to do a clean install
[14:48] <yahwek> 4
[14:49] <sudobash> yeah yeah i have some nasty experiences with 6.10 to 7.04
[14:49] <KDB9000> sudobash, I did an upgrade that way but it failed for me. not sure what went wrong
[14:49] <scunizi> Akazawa: so your entire /home was on one drive?
[14:49] <sudobash> i see yeah I will do clean
[14:49] <_seraphim_> sudobash, mine crashed doind that
[14:49] <sudobash> or might just run hardy for a month of so
[14:49] <sudobash> or
[14:50] <_seraphim_> sudobash, 8.04 is stable and you can use it with no problems
[14:50] <Akazawa> scunizi: this is how it is. the /home directory has its own partition on both drives. I copied the user "emma" directory from the old and onto the new
[14:50] <SiDi> Hello
[14:50] <mabmoro> Hello?
[14:50] <_seraphim_> :)
[14:50] <scunizi> Akazawa: and then you removed the old /home drive?
[14:51] <SiDi> Is wpa_supplicant still meant to be used with Intrepid, or is there a better way to automatically connect to a WPA WiFi network automatically when the PC boots ?
[14:51] <Lord_Nightmare> argh, i'm seeing posts which say this font problem is nothing new
[14:51] <_seraphim_> SiDi, u can use network Manager
[14:52] <depape> how can i use 2.6.28 under intrepid?
[14:52] <mabmoro> I just recently set up Ubuntu, and Im having a problem with setting the screen resolution above 800x600. Is there something I need to install to raise it?
[14:52] <SiDi> _seraphim_, i want my pc to connect automatically on start, so that i can leave it connected from shell
[14:52] <Akazawa> scunizi: then I copied the hidden directories from the new emma user into the one I am transfering. then I renamed the new ema direcetory to "emma_bak" and then renamed the one I am transferring to "emma" then I sudo chown emma emma
[14:52] <bobrcd2> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[14:52] <SiDi> _seraphim_, since Intrepid my connection just closes when i shutdown X
[14:52] <ScabbyMadman> hi
[14:53] <_seraphim_> SiDi, then network manager does not work for you... you can use wpa_supplicant
[14:53] <KDB9000> can someone help me with my problem with the compiz-gnome package? I can't install new software until it is fixed. It says it is broken after an update, now I can't repair it, I can't uninstall it, I can't reinstall it, I can't do nothing with it or with anything else.
[14:53] <ScabbyMadman> so is there a way to brows avail wireless connections with  NetworkManager 0.70?
[14:53] <ScabbyMadman> so is there a way to brows avail wireless connections with  NetworkManager 0.7.0?
[14:53] <scunizi> Akazawa: if the old drive is still in the machine then that's the issue.. if you don't need the other accounts then change the /home referance in /etc/fstab to reflect the new drive.. you can't point the system to 2 different locations for /home
[14:53] <SiDi> _seraphim_, yet it was working 100% on hardy. is it still meant to work with xorg being down ?
[14:54] <IrishDavid> hey, does anyone know a very lightweight image viewer that can read animated gif files?
[14:54] <depape> how can i use 2.6.28 under intrepid?
[14:54] <IrishDavid> and supports zooming
[14:54] <_seraphim_> SiDi, sorry.. never tryed without
[14:54] <Akazawa> scunizi: the old drive is not connected, I transered it via a usb cable and then unmounted it
[14:54] <HDready> hello folk, i've a question: i installed the amarok-streamrecorder plugin... by default it saves the music to /home/Music but i want it be at another plavce how can i change the target dir? maybe i can also add the oppurtuniy to stop after rippng 2gb?
[14:54] <SiDi> _seraphim_, okey no problem, thanks anyways
[14:54] <LjL> depape: the supported kernel under Intrepid is 2.6.27
[14:54] <erUSUL> depape: 2.6.28?? the kernel? it is not out yet
[14:54] <Akazawa> scunizi: the old drive ws in a nother machine so this computer does not recognise it as a /home anyways
[14:54] <Lord_Nightmare> ok i think i figured the issue out. very annoying that dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig does NOT bring up a dialog to change the option in question, but apparently messing with the links in /etc/fonts/conf.d/ can fix it
[14:55] <depape> can't i use an rc of 2.6.28?
[14:55] <LjL> depape: why do you want to?
[14:55] <scunizi> Akazawa: then the uuid of the new drive might be different than the old one.. blkid will generate uuid's for all your partitions.. just make sure the uuid referenced in /etc/fstab for /home is the correct one.
[14:55] <AdvoWork> how can i output the content/action of a cronjob to a log file, ie to see whats happening, and if its running
[14:56] <joaopinto> AdvoWork, just append >> /path_to_logfile 2>&1 to your cron line
[14:56] <depape> LjL: i want to have the latest wireless ath5k driver, the one from backports doesnt work for me
[14:56] <_seraphim_> SiDi, this might help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560585
[14:56] <jak0b> Why does 8.04 require me to install LILO instead of GRUB if I choose Manual partitioning and use LVM ? It installs GRUB automatically if I select "Guided partitioning with LVM" ?
[14:56] <n8tuser> depape-> you can try, they are just scripts, if they fail, you have to troubleshoot it yourself
[14:56] <ScabbyMadman> AdvoWork, the syslog facility can do  this
[14:56] <bobbiem> i need help again
[14:56] <depape> n8tuser: ok, thanks
[14:56] <juannicolas> Hi, I need some serius help. by mistake I changed owner of the /var directory. Is there a way to reverse that or what should be the owner of that folder?
[14:56] <pooronet> salut
[14:57] <mabmoro> ﻿I just recently set up Ubuntu, and Im having a problem with setting the screen resolution above 800x600. Is there something I need to install to raise it?
[14:57] <Akazawa> scunizi: how do I check the uuid of the /home
[14:57] <pooronet> quelqu'un peut me dire comment : expression régulière pour placer un "\n" tout les "x" caractère de $_ ???
[14:57] <ScabbyMadman> so is anyone here using intrepid with NetworkManager 0.7.0 and how can I browse  networks
[14:57] <joaopinto> ScabbyMadman, Syslog is not am usual destination for cronjob logs ;)
[14:57] <LjL> depape: what card?
[14:57] <n8tuser> juannicolas-> re-install, way to many quirks to solve re chowning that dir
[14:57] <SoWeLie> hey guys, anyone know anything about cisco vpn clients?
[14:57] <SiDi> _seraphim_, thanks but it's ok, i'll investigate the thing later, or wait for someone to make a tutorial for me :')
[14:57] <_seraphim_> mabmoro, the owner should be root
[14:57] <ikonia> SoWeLie: cisco probably does, they have good support
[14:57] <depape> LjL: AR242x from the new Samsung NC10 netbook
[14:57] <ScabbyMadman> joaopinto, the stuff gets written there...noty complete execution but the  launching and return codes do
[14:57] <joaopinto> !fr | pooronet
[14:57] <AdvoWork> joaopinto, how can i edit that cronjob from the command, as i do it within webmin, or can i append that line from webmin?
[14:57] <IrishDavid> hey, does anyone know a very lightweight image viewer that can read animated gif files?
[14:57] <ScabbyMadman> return==result
[14:58] <mabmoro> _seraphim_ The owner of what?
[14:58] <monk12> hey all, im running: find ./ -name 'settings.php' -exec ls -l {} \; and getting an error: missing argument to `-exec' ....any ideas?
[14:58] <HDready> hello folks, i've a question: i installed the amarok-streamrecorder plugin... by default it saves the music to /home/Music but i want it be at another plavce how can i change the target dir? maybe i can also add the oppurtuniy to stop after rippng 2gb?
[14:58] <SoWeLie> yeah...they do I'm sure...but I think my problem is pretty specific
[14:58] <depape> LjL: here is my bug report: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11971
[14:58] <_seraphim_> mabmoro, sorry ..it was for someone else
[14:59] <scunizi> Akazawa: /home is the entire drive right?  so in terminal or when you boot into rescue mode, type "blkid" .. it will list your drives and the uuid's associated with them.  Hopefully you'll be able to identify your new drive.  then sudo nano /etc/fstab and add the correct uuid for /home. save and restart
[14:59] <ikonia> SoWeLie: then ask
[14:59] <erUSUL> depape: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download <<<< this seems a better option
[14:59] <mabmoro> _seraphim_ Got it.
[14:59] <Codedrunk_Work> Anyone have issues with Intrepid being locked up coming out of screensaver?
[14:59] <filosofo> Hello all, for some reason if I type 0 (zero) in the shell, it opens a new window.  All other numbers act normally.  What could cause that?
[14:59] <SoWeLie> using the network-manager-vpnc plugin I can connect...but as soon as I do I can no longer ping anything outside of my network
[14:59] <_hase> Ok guys, thanks for all you're help, it took a while for the fschk to finish what it was doing but it seems to boot up fine now with no error messages
[14:59] <_seraphim_> juannicolas, the ouner of /var should be user: root group: root
[14:59] <_hase> Thanks to everyone that helped if you're still around
[15:00] <scunizi> Akazawa: gotta run.. if you need any more help ask here and someone will pic it up.
[15:00] <ikonia> SoWeLie: yes, because your connected to a vpn
[15:00] <n8tuser> SoWeLie-> compare the  route -n  before and after you connect via vpn
[15:00] <ikonia> SoWeLie: the network your vpn'd into needs to have external access setup and routed correctly for that to work
[15:00] <SoWeLie> ikonia: yeah...i can't connect to anything over the vpn either
[15:00] <SoWeLie> ikonia: and...on my laptop it works fine
[15:01] <AdvoWork> ScabbyMadman, my cronjob is: 30 17 * * * /home/Scripts/test_backup.sh  so  that becomes:   30 17 * * * /home/Scripts/test_backup.sh  >> /path_to_logfile 2>&1   ?
[15:01] <ikonia> SoWeLie: check your routing when your vpn'd in
[15:01] <Dedi> i have the problem that my usb keyboard stops working and all new plugged in usb deviced dont get recognized anymore. only thing that actually helps is rebooting. cant find any posts on this specific topic. any ideas?
[15:01] <Peaker> Firefox3 on 64-bit seems to have recently broken flash support (nspluginwrapper is broken?)
[15:01] <Codedrunk_Work> Anyone have issues with Intrepid being locked up coming out of screensaver?
[15:01] <depape> LjL: thank you, ill give this a try
[15:01] <bobbiem> i need help installing ubuntu 8.01
[15:01] <jobe> where does a source code only package install from synaptic? and do i then just make and install it as normal?
[15:01] <JokeR-> i have  SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 certified on my notebook. Can i switch to linux ubuntu ?
[15:02] <Dedi> Peaker: runs fine for me
[15:02] <juannicolas> _seraphim_: I changed it to rrot:root But I more corncern about the folders inside
[15:02] <ikonia> JokeR- you can install wht ever you want
[15:02] <gcbirzan> jobe: Try your home dir, or /usr/src?
[15:02] <jobe> JokeR: very likely yes
[15:02] <_seraphim_> SoWeLie, for your vpnc connection there are some settings you may find usefull eg. "use vpn only for ...."
[15:02] <gcbirzan> jobe: apt-get source installs it in your current dir
[15:02] <Lord_Nightmare> YECH. ok, clearly nobody has made a graphical frontend for handling the /etc/fonts/conf.* stuff yet
[15:02] <juannicolas> for the moment I have no errors presented by any of my crons and programs
[15:02] <PerSeL> Reading package lists... Done
[15:02] <PerSeL> Building dependency tree
[15:02] <PerSeL> Reading state information... Done
[15:02] <PerSeL> E: Couldn't find package language
[15:02] <JokeR-> ikonia jobe thank you for the fast answers :)
[15:02] <DJones> !paste > PerSeL
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[15:03] <PerSeL> it write me when i'm trying to install language support
[15:03] <gcbirzan> jobe: Also, you can use fakeroot debian/rules binary, and it will make a .deb out of it]
[15:03] <PerSeL> it means it installed or not?
[15:03] <hoonteke> how much ram does a virgin-boot of an ubuntu livecd need to run with the runinram option?
[15:03] <HDready> hello folks, i've a question: i installed the amarok-streamrecorder plugin... by default it saves the music to /home/Music but i want it be at another plavce how can i change the target dir? maybe i can also add the oppurtuniy to stop after rippng 2gb?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> hoonteke: like a live cd?
[15:03] <jobe> gcbirzan: if you can do that then why is it packaged as source in the first place and not a proper deb?
[15:04] <_seraphim_> juannicolas, if you changed the ouner only for root there is no problem.. you can fix that ..for other .. user root has access to everything but changing the owner to something else might give others access also
[15:04] <hoonteke> ActionParsnip1: yeah
[15:04] <gcbirzan> jobe: What do you mean?
[15:04] <KDB9000> Can someone help me with compiz-gnome? I can't do anything because it says it is a broken package. Can't install or uninstall anything, and I can't uninstall, reinstall, update, or anything with the broken package.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> hoonteke: runs ok on 256mb ram, more is better
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> hoonteke: with no xserver then about 32 easily
[15:04] <gcbirzan> jobe: Oh, wait. You didn't mean a source for a .deb package, you meant a package with the source of something, like a kernel module?
[15:04] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, what does sudo apt-get upgrade says?
[15:04] <jobe> gcbirzan: im getting the gspca driver from synaptic, but it says its source only. if its so easy to make it an executable deb then why is it source and not a proper deb to start with
[15:04] <hoonteke> ActionParsnip1: I know it can run, but I want to boot it with the runinram option so that I can take out the CD and use it again.  So I want to know how much ram the runinram option needs?
[15:05] <jobe> gcbirzan: yes its a webcam driver
[15:05] <hoonteke> I'm guessing at least 1.2 G or so
[15:05] <hoonteke> but I don't know
[15:05] <hoonteke> maybe closer to 1.4 or 1.5G
[15:05] <gcbirzan> jobe: Either licensing issues (pico and qmail for example) or because it's a kernel module
[15:05] <gcbirzan> jobe: If it's kernel module, install module-assistant
[15:05] <LjL> depape: i've found a few ubuntu-specific bug reports that seem relevant, i suggest you give them a look and perhaps contribute information if you can: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules/+bug/275423  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/286861  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/261142  (these mention your card specifically)
[15:05] <JokeR-> ikonia jobe if i switch to linux ubuntu will all the hardware work properly ? i mean wireless, sound, lan.... etc
[15:05] <gcbirzan> jobe: Or, well, you might already have it. Then run m-a a-i gspca
[15:05] <gcbirzan> jobe: It will take care of building and installing it.
[15:06] <deathzorz> Looking for reasons Firefox has a very slow redraw/response rate to GUI interactions - using Ibex, occured in Hardy as well. Help very much appreciated!
[15:06] <tsop> Hey I got a small problem, my laptop keybaord just stopped working I've done two reboots its fine at the KDM login manager, but as soon as I'm /in/ it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?
[15:06] <jobe> JokeR: depends. if it all works with suse it should. you can look up each chip one by one though beforehand if you like
[15:06] <Dedi> i have the problem that my usb keyboard stops working and all new plugged in usb deviced dont get recognized anymore. only thing that actually helps is rebooting. cant find any posts on this specific topic. any ideas?
[15:06] <LjL> depape: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/267761 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/210900 (these might be a bit more generic)
[15:06] <depape> LjL: wow, thank you very much, ill didnt find these
[15:07] <gcbirzan> jobe: The reason they're packaged as source is so that you can compile it for whatever kernel version you want.
[15:07] <_seraphim_> Dedi, check usb enabled/disabled from bios first
[15:07] <Dedi> _seraphim_: enabled. it works until a random time
[15:07] <jobe> gcbirzan: hmm, i see. i tried that command, (i hope it was safe!) and it said build of package failed, view continue or stop ... ?
[15:08] <LjL> depape: also, just checking, i suppose you're aware of the release notes that say ath5k isn't enabled by default because it conflicts with the madwifi driver
[15:08] <Codedrunk_Work> Anyone know of a current issued/bug with the desktop being locked up when coming out of screensaver on Intrepid?
[15:08] <_seraphim_> Dedi, that could be something else.. driver issue, hardware malfunction
[15:08] <ScabbyMadman> AdvoWork, you still around?
[15:08] <gcbirzan> jobe: View? :-)
[15:08] <juannicolas> _seraphim_: thx for the imput, for now I only needed to change /lib/php5 and php4 owner for the apache2 owner/group
[15:08] <runpain2_> can i make my own login screen
[15:09] <depape> LjL: yes, thats why i installed linux-backports-modules-intrepi-generic
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: sure
[15:09] <runpain2_> how
[15:09] <Rockj> how to figure out which application is using my audio device?
[15:09] <KDB9000> _seraphim_, sorry it took so long, got side tracked a little. here are the results and i even include the one with force command http://paste.ubuntu.com/68871/
[15:09] <Rockj> gosh, I hate today's audio card. good old times could do this in hardware
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179992
[15:09] <gcbirzan> Rockj: lsof
[15:09] <erUSUL> Rockj: "sudo lsof /dev/snd/*"
[15:09] <Rockj> mixing several input sources.
[15:09] <JokeR-> jobe the notebook is HP6730s with SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 certified and i want to switch to linux ubuntu. does it work ?
[15:10] <jobe> gcbirzan: http://pastebin.com/dfd74879
[15:10] <Shanix_> hi all, how to change gnome-osd color??
[15:10] <Rockj> erUSUL, only pulseuadi og mixer_app who shows up. that should be good yeah?
[15:10] <gcbirzan> jobe: Actually, paste what's above that :-)
[15:10] <erUSUL> JokeR-: just try the livecd to check hardware compat
[15:10] <erUSUL> Rockj: yep
[15:10] <Rockj> tho, preferences -> sound still says something is using my audio device
[15:11] <Rockj> ive tried restarting pulseaudio with sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[15:11] <erUSUL> Rockj: now configure your apps to use pulseaudio/esd output
[15:11] <KDB9000> _seraphim_, the packages before it installed just fine until it got to compiz-gnome, then it broke and there was still one update to do but it won't go because of the broken package
[15:11] <erUSUL> Rockj: it is configured to use pulse =
[15:11] <erUSUL> ?
[15:11] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, let me check something
[15:11] <Rockj> erUSUL, ohhh..heh..hides
[15:11] <runpain2_> ActionParsnip1, that link leads nowhere
[15:11] <Rockj> alsa it is here, due to cedega.
[15:11] <runpain2_> they dint tell me how
[15:11] <mabmoro> ﻿I just recently set up Ubuntu, and Im having a problem with setting the screen resolution above 800x600. Is there something I need to install to raise it?
[15:11] <IrishDavid> hey, does anyone know a very lightweight image viewer that can read animated gif files?
[15:11] <Dedi> _seraphim_: can't find anything in the log files. what else could i check? btw its an old problem (already had with gutsy) but its happens far faster and more often now
[15:11] <JokeR-> erUSUL the problem is that i dont have the notebook. I have an offer to buy it. this is wht im asking
[15:11] <runpain2_> only it could be done
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: id download a few login pages from gnomelook.org to see what the deal is, then make your own
[15:12] <gcbirzan> IrishDavid: gqview?
[15:12] <runpain2_> ok will try
[15:13] <IrishDavid> gcbirzan, doesnt do animated gif
[15:13] <jobe> gcbirzan: http://pastebin.com/m519aec2c is that enough? its hard to copy and paste due to the nature of its display
[15:13] <_cb> One site consistently crashing Firefox. Suspect it is the flash plug in but not sure. Can I temporarily disable flash in Firefox?
[15:13] <vikku> KDB9000: did u have the compiz plugin and core already installed ?
[15:13] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, try dpkg -r fro the last package that failed to install
[15:13] <gcbirzan> jobe: That module isn't buildable with your current kernel, it seesm.
[15:13] <gcbirzan> jobe: File a bug
[15:13] <monk12> hmm running this to quickly show all lines having $db_url in settings.php in a directory, taking its darn time.... the find by itself is fast without the exec, anyone know what doing wrong?: find ./ -name 'settings.php' -exec grep -H '$db_url' {}\;
[15:13] <vikku>  compiz-gnome seems to depend on that
[15:14] <gcbirzan> IrishDavid: Oh, well. Was worth a shot :-)
[15:14] <ScabbyMadman> _cb if you install either prefbar or noscript extension you can achiev this
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> runpain2_: get some that people have made and modify them
[15:14] <jobe> gcbirzan: boo hoo :'( is it because of 64 bit?
[15:14] <KDB9000> vikku, yes, they were already installed.
[15:14] <erUSUL> _cb: use the noscript extension?
[15:14] <runpain2_> ok will look ActionParsnip1
[15:14] <gcbirzan> jobe: Doubt it.
[15:14] <runpain2_> thanks
[15:15] <vikku> KDB9000: if iam not wrong when u do apt-get install compiz-gnome it says broken packege ?
[15:15] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, or you can try "apt-get --fix-broken install"
[15:15] <srini> why there is no audio output in Ubuntu, but it works in windows and I have dual boot
[15:15] <Ximal> i downloaded vmware for linux and now i can't install it because it is labled.bundle at the end 6.bundle
[15:15] <JokeR-> I have HP6730s with SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 certified. Does ubuntu work properly on this notebook ? its very important to know :(
[15:15] <gcbirzan> jobe: Try http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca_README.txt
[15:16] <bazhang> JokeR-, run the live cd
[15:16] <Ximal> so is there a way to install it through the rpm package ?
[15:16] <erUSUL> !vmware
[15:16] <JokeR-> bazhang i dont have the notebook. i have an offer to buy it
[15:17] <srini> Help me, no audio output in Ubuntu 8.04, what could be the reason?
[15:17] <gcbirzan> 2Too much porn.
[15:17] <_seraphim_> srini, driver not loaded
[15:17] <Dedi> Ximal: dont know if you may want to try out virtualbox (its better in my opinion)
[15:17] <_seraphim_> srini, or sound may be muted
[15:17] <Ximal> i can't figure out how to install using it
[15:17] <depape> LjL: seems like someone just merged my bug http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11971
[15:17] <Ximal> virtualbox that is
[15:17] <bazhang> JokeR-, my advice is enter that notebook name with ubuntu and see if any error/problem posts on ubuntuforums come back in search results
[15:17] <deathzorz> Looking for reasons Firefox has a very slow redraw/response rate to GUI interactions - using Ibex, occured in Hardy as well. Help very much appreciated! -ps: Opera does not have this problem.
[15:18] <bazhang> Ximal, virtual box or vmware
[15:18] <Ximal> define thatfor me bazhang
[15:18] <cyphase> Has anyone gotten usb-creator to work?
[15:18] <jobe> gcbirzan: ok, I'll read that
[15:18] <jobe> gcbirzan: thanks
[15:18] <Dedi> Ximal: pretty much the same as vmware :) the open source edition is in the repos
[15:18] <_seraphim_> srini, type lspci and see waht it says for audio
[15:18] <gcbirzan> jobe: You're welcome.
[15:18] <bazhang> deathzorz, what extensions do you have enabled; that would be a prime cause
[15:18] <srini> _seraphim_: Its working in windows but not in ubuntu and okay i will do that
[15:18] <genii> _seraphim_: I'm bettin on some Intel HDA
[15:19] <_seraphim_> genii, me to :)
[15:19] <rieza> hello
[15:19] <deathzorz> bazhang: No idea. I've installed Flash, and a couple of add-ons like Adblock Plus and Web Dev Toolbar, and Firebug. But that's it. Everything else is default.
[15:19] <Jeruvy> deathzorz: try removing firebug
[15:20] <Ximal> well dedi and bazhang .. how come virtualbox ose won't load my old vmware box ? yet it notices the files ?
[15:20] <NielsE> hi, I've got a divx file and an .srt subtitle file, how can I burn the subtitle into the avi the easyest way?
[15:20] <utnubu_user> How can I fix hotmail to send emails?
[15:20] <Dedi> Ximal: you can google for it, there is a 2min fix to get vmware working in virtualbox
[15:20] <Ximal> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[15:20] <srini> _seraphim_: please click this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/68874/
[15:20] <Ximal> that's the error i get ?
[15:20] <deathzorz> Jeruvy: Just tried it - problem is still there. My test bed is netvibes.com, and mousing over my RSS feeds
[15:21] <KDB9000> _seraphim_ vikku, i have tried to fix the broken package, reinstall it, or just remove it and all has failed. i will try the commands you sent
[15:21] <Dedi> Ximal: did you reboot after installing?
[15:21] <KDB9000> _seraphim_, failed, similar to the force command that was in my pastebin
[15:21] <bazhang> Ximal, open synaptic and install it
[15:21] <deathzorz> The tooltips and highlighting is extremely slow
[15:21] <KDB9000> _seraphim_ vikku, sorry, AP freaked out. i have tried to fix the broken package, reinstall it, or just remove it and all has failed. i will try the commands you sent
[15:21] <KDB9000> _seraphim_, failed, similar to the force command that was in my pastebin
[15:21] <Ximal> paducahguy@paducahguy-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-generic
[15:21] <Ximal> [sudo] password for paducahguy:
[15:21] <Ximal> Reading package lists... Done
[15:21] <Ximal> Building dependency tree
[15:21] <Ximal> Reading state information... Done
[15:21] <FloodBot3> Ximal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <Ximal> :)
[15:21] <Jeruvy> deathzorz: yes, I see the same problems.  mozilla has many bug reports...
[15:21] <Dedi> Ximal: you need to reboot before beeing able to use a virtual machine
[15:21] <Ximal> sorry floodbot
[15:22] <bazhang> Ximal, use paste.ubuntu.com
[15:22] <Ximal> i didn't mean to parse the lines when i cut and pasted.. hence the speed ban on me ;)
[15:22] <utnubu_user> How can I fix hotmail on firefox 3 to send emails?
[15:22] <basilf> Even when I installed USB support in  virtualbox it still ignores it.  I have both Win XP and OPEN Suse 10.3 setup and still can't get my USB to work any help
[15:22] <JokeR-> is there a kernel 2.6.27 or higher ?
[15:22] <saam> how to recovering file with ext3grep  ??
[15:23] <Ximal> brb dedi ..
[15:23] <edlv> i created some word documents. when i take it to a windows pc to take prints, the images arent displayed. but the images are displayed when i open the docs in my pc.
[15:24] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, try to remove compiz and the last packages that it istalled
[15:24] <mkkohls>  /quit
[15:24] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, apt-get remove .....
[15:24] <erUSUL> JokeR-: intrepid 8.10 uses 2.6.27...
[15:24] <srini> _seraphim_: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01
[15:24] <JokeR-> okay :)
[15:24] <KDB9000> _seraphim_, I did get compiz to uninstall and what last package are you taking about? the broken one?
[15:25] <_seraphim_> KDB9000, yes
[15:25] <srini> _seraphim_: busy?
[15:25] <_seraphim_> srini, i sow it .. type alsamixer
[15:26] <_seraphim_> srini, see if the master is not muted
[15:26] <RoosterJuice> wow i did not enjoy kubuntu
[15:26] <rivalarrival> I'm looking for a good scanner w/ ADF feeder - anyone have any recommendations? Multifunction printer/scanner/fax preferred - for a small business
[15:26] <_seraphim_> srini, ich4 is an old controler and should work fine
[15:26] <srini> _seraphim_: master unmuted
[15:27] <edlv> i created some word documents. when i take it to a windows pc to take prints, the images arent displayed. but the images are displayed when i open the docs in my pc.
[15:27] <edlv> anyone help,please.
[15:27] <srini> _seraphim_: its in red color
[15:27] <AdvoWork> ScabbyMadman, pm?
[15:27] <srini> _seraphim_: master is in red color
[15:27] <_seraphim_> srini, try killall -9 pulseaudio
[15:28] <_seraphim_> srini, sometimes it fixes the problem
[15:29] <srini> _seraphim_: its not working
[15:29] <hoonteke> what's the program called that will let you customize a livecd?
[15:29] <bazhang> !remaster | hoonteke
[15:29] <awakebyjava> I am having a lot of trouble installing on an old system
[15:29] <bazhang> hoonteke, uck
[15:30] <KDB9000> _seraphim_, already tried it. When i tried removing compiz-gnome it wanted to remove compiz, compiz was remove but compiz-gnome failed
[15:30] <JokeR-> does ubuntu run properly on 6730s with PM45 chipset
[15:30] <hoonteke> thanks bazhang
[15:30] <Ximal> hey dedi : how do i go about making a new vm through vbox?
[15:30] <monk12> rephraze my question: which is more likely in a drupal system: chown -R root:www-data . OR chown -R www-data:webdevgroup .
[15:30] <JokeR-> does ubuntu run properly on HP6730s with PM45 chipset ????
[15:30] <monk12> for the drupal/web directory
[15:31] <_seraphim_> srini, what ubuntu version u have?
[15:31] <Dedi> Ximal: dont know, but i saw once a post about it (were only 2 or 3 steps to do)
[15:31] <JuJuBee> How can I prevent users from adding extensions to firefox?
[15:31] <JokeR-> does ubuntu run properly on HP6730s with PM45 chipset ????
[15:31] <JokeR-> does ubuntu run properly on HP6730s with PM45 chipset ????
[15:31] <JokeR-> tell me please :(
[15:31] <bazhang> JokeR-, dont repeat
[15:31] <monk12> lol
[15:31] <fluxedout> Hi everyone!
[15:31] <JokeR-> im just going crazy..
[15:32] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: you can not afaics estension are installed on user's home directories and are per user
[15:32] <monk12> Joker- there is a #ubuntu group on freenode
[15:32] <JokeR-> ?
[15:32] <Stalker72> How do I synchronize my songs in Rhythmbox to my iPod?
[15:32] <Sajuta> We're on freenode.
[15:32] <JokeR-> omg..
[15:32] <erUSUL> !ipod
[15:32] <X4D> can anyone suggest a simple app to generate safe random passwords that is easily accessible ? I'm no tlooking for a password manages just something quick that I can put on the panel
[15:32] <monk12> for ubuntu question, go there please.
[15:32] <Dedi> !ericsson
[15:32] <JokeR-> where to go ???
[15:32] <JokeR-> omg
[15:32] <mikebeecham> could someone tell me if there is good webcam software that I can use to take photos from my webcam...it's a Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000
[15:33] <JuJuBee> erUSUL : thanks, bummer.  I really do not want to remove FireFox, but am tired of students adding games...
[15:33] <erUSUL> monk12: ?? this is the ubuntu channel on freenode
[15:33] <JokeR-> he is fuckin crazy
[15:33] <gammy> X4D: apt-cache search password generator
[15:33] <monk12> whoops thought i was in Drupal channel:)
[15:33] <bazhang> JokeR-, no cursing please
[15:33] <JokeR-> :D :D :d
[15:33] <monk12> i am, but wrong tab hehe
[15:33] <Sajuta> JokeR-: Language...
[15:33] <JokeR-> offf  :D
[15:33] <JokeR-> okay
[15:33] <JokeR-> im sry
[15:33] <fluxedout> What do you guys think of PCBSD's .pbi?
[15:34] <JokeR-> please help me :(
[15:34] <monk12> hehe whooops.
[15:34] <_seraphim_> srini, and what does this return? cat /dev/sndstat
[15:34] <basilf> plug in your iPod wait
[15:34] <bazhang> fluxedout, #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[15:34] <Sajuta> JokeR-: Try these two topics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361236 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361237
[15:34] <X4D> gammy: thanks :)
[15:34] <fluxedout> OK
[15:34] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: uninstall firefox and make epiphany the default browser. has the important extensions (adblock greasemonkey and a few others) but not the others. it uses gecko so rendering quality is on par with ff
[15:35] <mikebeecham> could someone tell me if there is good webcam software that I can use to take photos from my webcam...it's a Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000
[15:35] <JuJuBee> erUSUL : thanks, I will have a look
[15:35] <erUSUL> !info cheese | mikebeecham
[15:35] <edlv>  i created some word documents. when i take it to a windows pc to take prints, the images arent displayed. but the images are displayed when i open the docs in my pc.
[15:35] <edlv> please help
[15:36] <mikebeecham> erSUL thanks mate
[15:36] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: no problem
[15:36] <mymistakedoh> Ok I'm an idiot, I managed to change my home directory but without moving the files in it so now i can only login to a failsafe terminal or unprivilaged user and I need help. How from a terminal can set my user home dir back to what it should be?
[15:36] <Sajuta> edlv: Did you make these documents in Ubuntu? Sounds like it's a windows problem... =/
[15:36] <jimcooncat> edlv make pdfs
[15:37] <gauthierm> How do I downgrade gcc? Ubuntu 8.04 installed 4.2.4 but the kernel is built with 4.2.3.
[15:37] <Stalker72> Why doesn't Ubuntu support iPod?
[15:37] <vaxetihirr> it does
[15:37] <Roland123> ubuntu 8.10 is nice.. my computer runs much cooler now :P
[15:37] <Sajuta> !ipod | Stalker72
[15:37] <Roland123> where can i find cpu temperature?
[15:37] <vaxetihirr> in the bios
[15:37] <edlv> Sajuta: yeah. i made these in ubuntu. but images not displayed in any of my frieds' pc.
[15:38] <mymistakedoh> How can I create a privileged user from a command line?
[15:38] <edlv> jimcooncat:  how to make pdfs?
[15:38] <Sajuta> edlv: Make pdfs, like someone else suggested.
[15:38] <Roland123> i dont want to restart my computer everytime i  want to checkt the temperature
[15:38] <srini> _seraphim_:  sorry I sometimes ubuntu hangs thats why I couldn't reply you
[15:38] <Sajuta> Yeah, him. ^_^
[15:38] <_seraphim_> Roland123, sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[15:38] <vaxetihirr> download a program called Conky
[15:38] <jimcooncat> edlv: what are you using on Ubuntu to write the word docs with?
[15:38] <vaxetihirr> its a system monitor program
[15:38] <kanhiya78> anybody plese help me
[15:38] <_seraphim_> Roland123, sudo sensors-detect
[15:38] <edlv> openoffice.org.
[15:38] <geeksquad> help me compiz is not letting me install ANYTHING it says "compizconfig settings-maneger empty filename"
[15:38] <kanhiya78> it is emergency
[15:39] <erUSUL> mymistakedoh: boot into recovery mode and use usermod command (check it man page)
[15:39] <vaxetihirr> takes ages to configure though
[15:39] <Roland123> _seraphim_: thnx
[15:39] <Pici> kanhiya78: Just ask the question.
[15:39] <SlimeyPete> !ask | kanhiya78
[15:39] <mymistakedoh> erUSUL:  thanks I'll try it.
[15:39] <srini> _seraphim_:  Ubuntu 8.04 and please see this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/68881/
[15:39] <geeksquad> please help
[15:39] <SOURdiesel> geeksquad: #compiz-fusion
[15:39] <Roland123> srini: do you use compiz extra? my computer doesn't like that... randomly hangs for undetermined time
[15:39] <geeksquad> i know but i am already here
[15:39] <runpain2_> how can i install gdm login theme after i down loaded as a tar.gz
[15:40] <erUSUL> edlv: oo.org has pdf exort built in there is a button on the interface and export options in the file menu
[15:40] <kanhiya78> my processor is running at 100% from last 10 -12 minutes and i am running just pidgin onlly
[15:40] <jimcooncat> edlv: then that's easy. Open your doc, then choose File->Export as PDF ..., then give it a file name
[15:40] <vaxetihirr> runpain2_: extract it and then double click on the file and choose the option "run in terminal"
[15:40] <erUSUL> kanhiya78: check running processes with "top" command
[15:40] <srini> Roland123: what is that compiz extra
[15:40] <Stalker72> I just installed Amarok to try it with my iPod. When I play songs, I get no sound. I did get sound in Rhythmbox.
[15:41] <Cement> When I try to install/boot from an Ubuntu DVD, It keeps switching between analog/digital output on my monitor. I have an ATI graphics card, please help!
[15:41] <mikebeecham> erSUL I've installed it, but just see green?
[15:41] <edlv> jimcooncat: thanks
[15:41] <kanhiya78> how i am  new to linux
[15:41] <kanhiya78> in terminal?
[15:41] <erUSUL> !terminal
[15:41] <geeksquad> is there a mac channel
[15:41] <jimcooncat> np
[15:41] <Cement> When I try to install/boot from an Ubuntu DVD, It keeps switching between analog/digital output on my monitor. I have an ATI graphics card, please help
[15:42] <vaxetihirr> if you dload a tarball and extract the contents it will usually produce a folder of some kind
[15:42] <fluxedout> Guys In my compaq desktop with Ubuntu 8.04, when I plugin my headphones, the sound comes through both lcd speakers as well as headphones.
[15:42] <geeksquad> drat but i found out how to get into var on a mac
[15:42] <jobe> is the only way to configure exrta buttons on a 5 button mouse via xorg.conf?
[15:42] <SOURdiesel> geekswuad: < /list >
[15:42] <vaxetihirr> which will contain an installer file
[15:42] <_seraphim_> srini, the configuration looks ok .. try gnome-volume-control
[15:42] <vaxetihirr> you double click on it and an option to run in terminal sholud appear
[15:42] <Stalker72> I have sound in Rhythmbox but not in Amarok. Please help.
[15:42] <_seraphim_> srini, and see if all is unmuted
[15:43] <erUSUL> Stalker72: configure amarok to use pulseaudio or esd as sound output
[15:43] <_seraphim_> srini, you should have master and front unmuted
[15:43] <Stalker72> erUSUL, how?
[15:43] <Cement> When I try to install/boot from an Ubuntu DVD, It keeps switching between analog/digital output on my monitor. I have an ATI graphics card, please help.
[15:43] <mikebeecham> wow erSUL cheese just crashed my PC :(
[15:43] <geeksquad> ok you open terminal and enter  sudo -i then type your pass and then type open /var
[15:43] <erUSUL> Stalker72: never used amarok... look in preferences or configuration
[15:43] <kanhiya78> ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/68882/
[15:43] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: o.0!
[15:44] <kanhiya78> here it is showing other thing
[15:44] <mikebeecham> erSUL yeah...I also just got green window instead of my webcam image...despite the webcam being on!
[15:44] <[c0re]> hey
[15:44] <melczideque> Hi
[15:44] <erUSUL> !tab
[15:44] <rand0m> anyone know how to solve the issue of really slow and choppy flash video over the web?  I"ve already determined it's probably conflicting plugins but have no clue what to do
[15:44] <[c0re]> can anyone help me with devilspie?
[15:44] <Stalker72> erUSUL: Can I synchronize my songs with Amarok but use Rhythmbox to play them?
[15:45] <erUSUL> Stalker72: dunno
[15:45] <duck1123> Does anyone know why, after I upgraded Ubuntu, I am seeing multiple entries for the same files on our network share?
[15:45] <kanhiya78> ubottu what to do bring cpu usage down and to use ram in place of it
[15:45] <Stalker72> erUSUL: Let me try.
[15:45] <melczideque> Hi
[15:45] <srini> _seraphim_: all are unmuted
[15:45] <duck1123> Stalker72: you should be able to
[15:45] <kanhiya78> what to do bring cpu usage down and to use ram in place of it
[15:46] <kanhiya78> anybody knows
[15:46] <erUSUL> kanhiya78: do you mean sort processe by Mem usage?
[15:46] <Stalker72> duck1123: OK, thanks.
[15:46] <_seraphim_> srini, i'm out of ideas ...sound should work for you
[15:46] <bohsain> does nvidia 9400 works in ubuntu 8.10?
[15:47] <[c0re]> can anyone help me with devilspie? i cant move terminal on desktop. i am using howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop
[15:47] <kanhiya78> no i mean to say system use RAM IF CPU USAGE IS HIGH
[15:47] <v3s4> every now and then I loose the ability to type the third option keys  (AltGr + key_with_3_options). Could someone tell me where to start looking?
[15:47] <wireless_woes> are there any tricks for getting a wireless wpa connection working? running the latest stable ubuntu. i have a dynex 802.11 g pci card. no ssids are even showing up.
[15:48] <erUSUL> kanhiya78: ?? that simply makes no sense (or i am missunderstaning you)...
[15:48] <Stalker72> I have browsed to my iPod in the File Browser. Where do I see the path? (like /media/...)
[15:48] <awakebyjava> okay all
[15:48] <awakebyjava> please mock me, because I know nothing
[15:48] <bullgard4> Nautilus designates /usr/share/dictd/jargon.dict.dz as a 'Gzip archive'. Why does ubuntu use 'dz' and not 'gz'?
[15:48] <srini> _seraphim_: not a problem, even mouse pointer points towards turn off buttom. and stopping from being active
[15:48] <awakebyjava> i am a teacher, trying to install xubuntu on some old computers we have laying around
[15:48] <awakebyjava> always gets stuck on the gui
[15:49] <srini> _seraphim_: thanks a lot.
[15:49] <awakebyjava> anyone have any ideas?
[15:49] <kanhiya78> there shoul be less load on cpu
[15:49] <kanhiya78> my system has dual core processor and one of them is running at 100% from last few minutes
[15:49] <SlimeyPete> awakebyjava: how do you mean "stuck"?
[15:49] <KrimZon> bullgard4: nautilus reads a bit of the file to try and work out what type it is
[15:49] <_seraphim_> srini, sorry for not being able to help you
[15:49] <awakebyjava> oh, and i cannot get to the forums because my school block forums
[15:49] <awakebyjava> well
[15:49] <bazhang> awakebyjava, how much ram
[15:50] <awakebyjava> when i intall, or even boot from the cd, it goes fine until it tries to pull up the desktop, and then it stalls.
[15:50] <awakebyjava> 128
[15:50] <awakebyjava> i had to steal 65 from another computer to get that much
[15:50] <awakebyjava> 64
[15:50] <runpain2_> how do i open file manager in root so i can put a folder in the theme folder for gdm
[15:50] <erUSUL> kanhiya78: the top command should show you wich process is using so much cpu
[15:50] <bullgard4> KrimZon: I know that. I would like to know why does Ubuntu use the extension 'dz' instead of 'gz' for this and other files.
[15:50] <SlimeyPete> awakebyjava: are you using the alternate or live cd?
[15:50] <awakebyjava> live
[15:50] <srini> _seraphim_:  oh please no apology, its really great to have discussion like this and that I should learn from you people and help others
[15:50] <mikebeecham> can anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting 'Cheese' issues?
[15:51] <awakebyjava> i have tried both ubuntu and xubuntu
[15:51] <vaxetihirr> ?
[15:51] <vaxetihirr> cheese?
[15:51] <SlimeyPete> awakebyjava: that's the problem then
[15:51] <SlimeyPete> the livecd has to load lots of the system into RAM, so you've probably got hardly any left
[15:51] <awakebyjava> okay
[15:51] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting, any ideas??
[15:51] <kanhiya78> whiptail is doing that, i do not know what it is
[15:51] <awakebyjava> so the alternate loads into swap?
[15:51] <SlimeyPete> try the alternate CD. It uses a text-based installer whichis not quite so friendly but uses much less RAM
[15:51] <wireless_woes> are there any tricks for getting a wireless wpa connection working? running the latest stable ubuntu. i have a dynex 802.11 g pci card. no ssids are even showing up.
[15:51] <awakebyjava> alright, i will give that a go
[15:52] <SlimeyPete> the alternate doesn't really load much of a system at all - just the bare minimum
[15:52] <awakebyjava> thanks!
[15:52] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, check with system monitor and see what process eats all you r cpu
[15:52] <KrimZon> bullgard4: it doesn't 'use' dz - if you try to create your own archive it will default to gz
[15:52] <kanhiya78> whiptail showing that it is using 100%
[15:52] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, gnome-system-monitor
[15:52] <bohsain> does nvidia 9400 works in ubuntu 8.10?
[15:52] <rexwin> hi just installed jeos ubuntu. assigned a LAN ip address. but doesnot ping any other ip in my LAN
[15:52] <awakebyjava> can i do a network install? i am out of cds.
[15:53] <rexwin> any idea?
[15:53] <kanhiya78> i am new to linux
[15:53] <bullgard4> KrimZon: But still Ubuntu provides this file as part of its Hardy distribution.
[15:53] <|neon|> awakebyjava: TRY UNETBOOTIN
[15:53] <bullgard4> KrimZon: But still Ubuntu provides this file as part of its Hardy distribution with the extension dz.
[15:53] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, press ALT+F2 and type gnome-system-monitor
[15:53] <soon> can i install 8.10 on sda2 from my 8.04 installation on sda4 _
[15:53] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[15:53] <kanhiya78> ok
[15:53] <soon> ??
[15:54] <Stalker72> In Amarok, what button is for synchronizing to iPod? I've managed to set up my iPod in Amarok.
[15:54] <Ximal> dedi thanks for the help with vbox .. it's installing my win98 greatly... ;)
[15:54] <raddy> Is this true https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Artwork/OfficialIntrepid ?
[15:54] <hunter_> hi
[15:54] <|neon|> after i cahnge my theme settings everything looks ok, however settings go away every time i reboot, how can i make my them settings stick after rebooting, any ideas??
[15:54] <kanhiya78> yes one of the processor is running on 100%
[15:55] <KrimZon> bullgard4: hmm... maybe the app in question chose the extension to mean 'dictionary, zipped'
[15:55] <raddy> Orbit Pack Theme is default in Interprid?
[15:55] <awakebyjava> okay, anyone have a link for the the alternate of 8.10?
[15:55] <Ximal> it's in ur session settings |neon|
[15:55] <kanhiya78> ram is on 27.7%
[15:55] <h0n3st> I have iso image of ubuntu 8.10 and no raw cd and want to install Ubunut 8.10. How can I do that?
[15:55] <gourdcaptain> I'm having problems with unmounting USB drives. They stay in the list in firefox's open/save, and several other places, and I can't remove them.
[15:55] <wireless_woes> does anyone use a wireless connection using wpa? if so did you have to do anything special to set it up?
[15:55] <Pici> bullgard4: Its nots Ubuntu's decision to call it .dz, that looks the be the standard filename for dict files.
[15:55] <bullgard4> KrimZon: Yes, that would be an explanation. --
[15:55] <raddy> Can anyone please clarify??
[15:55] <h0n3st> I have iso image of ubuntu 8.10 and no raw cd and want to install Ubunut 8.10. How can I do that using a memory disk?
[15:55] <|neon|> Ximal: tried that , still i loose setting after each reboot
[15:55] <rexwin> hi just installed jeos ubuntu. assigned a LAN ip address. but doesnot ping any other ip in my LAN http://picpaste.com/ifconfig.png
[15:56] <DIFH-iceroot> wireless_woes: yes i am using, no i dont have to set any sepcial
[15:56] <rexwin> any troubleshooting tips
[15:56] <Ximal> hmm... what are you trying to change ?
[15:56] <gunny> wireless_woes: I use WPA, and it works fine 8.10, nothing special
[15:56] <raddy> Any Interpid users out there?
[15:56] <bullgard4> Pici: Thank you for explaining.
[15:56] <wireless_woes> iceroot- i have a pci 802g.11 card, but nothing is showing up. are there certain cards that will only work?
[15:56] <kanhiya78> in windows; if my cpu usage increases to bring it down my ram usage als increases
[15:56] <DIFH-iceroot> raddy: just ask your real question
[15:57] <wireless_woes> mine is a dynex generic pci wireless card.
[15:57] <kanhiya78> but here my processor rinning at 100%
[15:57] <wireless_woes> i can't see any ssids, even non-protected ones.
[15:57] <|neon|> i changed the way my theme looks with a darker look one of the themes provided by ubuntu install
[15:57] <hunter_> why running at 100%?
[15:57] <kanhiya78> can anyone solve my problem
[15:57] <ralpho> raddy: the wallpaper is the one i seen when i used real root to setup a bunch of stuff.
[15:57] <Ximal> did you try downloading the open source drivers wireless-woes and enabled restricted drivers for the card ?
[15:57] <kanhiya78> i do not why
[15:57] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, but what process?
[15:57] <wireless_woes> no, ximal- i am completely new to linux and don't know what i;m doing.
[15:58] <wireless_woes> how do i do that?
[15:58] <raddy> DIFH-iceroot : Is  Orbit Pack theme is the default in Interpid Ibex?
[15:58] <kanhiya78> just running pidgin and terminal
[15:58] <Ximal> a generic anything should work period... heh.. i use broadcomm myself
[15:58] <DIFH-iceroot> raddy: dont ask me, i am not using it
[15:58] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, go to processes tab and see process name that keeps your cpu in 100%
[15:58] <raddy> Is  Orbit Pack theme is the default in Interpid Ibex?
[15:58] <Pyr0> hello
[15:59] <Ximal> select system menu/administration/hardware drivers
[15:59] <wireless_woes> since i can't use that computer online, will it accept a thumbdrive if i can get the files on that? do i have to mount it or something that would be non-intuitive?
[15:59] <kanhiya78> it is showing that all are sleeping
[15:59] <kanhiya78> how to show a screenshot
[15:59] <Pyr0> i installed ubuntu on my thumb drive and now i cant boot crappy vista when i need to without the thumbdrive boot loader alolowing me to select vista
[16:00] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, click on CPU to sort by load
[16:00] <srini> Hi anyone, please help me sound system is not working?
[16:00] <rand0m> anyone know how to solve the issue of really slow and choppy flash video over the web?  I"ve already determined it's probably conflicting plugins but have no clue what to do
[16:00] <raddy> Is  Orbit Pack theme is the default in Interpid Ibex?
[16:00] <rand0m> also.. my internet is like half as slow
[16:00] <rand0m> on my ubuntu partition
[16:00] <rand0m> than on xp
[16:00] <kanhiya78> picka colour option is there
[16:00] <rexwin> hi guys unable to ping my gateway address. any idea where to look for?
[16:01] <n8tuser> rexwin-> check your cables?
[16:01] <lianimator> is there a free remote assistance program for Ubuntu to control Windows computer?
[16:01] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, ha?
[16:01] <Pyr0> linux for dummies
[16:01] <raddy> Is  Orbit Pack theme is the default in Interpid Ibex?
[16:01] <RenzoreK> I currently have upgraded to Kubuntu I.Ibex but I want to install gnome/Ubuntu I.Ibex what package do I need?
[16:01] <rexwin> it is a virutal machine on top of a net connected machine in a LAN
[16:01] <[c0re]> how do i dialup on startup?
[16:02] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, System Monitor -> Processes click on CPU to sort
[16:02] <kanhiya78> i got a option to pick a color when i click on cpu
[16:02] <rexwin> this has to do with the jeos ubuntu
[16:02] <Stalker72> Does Ubuntu support Wireless N at all?
[16:02] <turtle_> probably
[16:02] <willie> is there a good howto for 8.10 Nvidia and Celeron processors?
[16:02] <n8tuser> rexwin-> check the networking tutorials for such virtual machine, if ping is allowed
[16:02] <willie> cos I need one desperately....
[16:02] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, the color is in Resources tab
[16:03] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, Go to Processes tab
[16:03] <dulak> rexwin: is your vm networking bridged?
[16:03] <rexwin> ping localhost and ping my ip address (Class C LAN )works.
[16:03] <kanhiya78> here gnome system monitor is using 10% and pidgin 3%
[16:03] <NicEXE> How can my hard drive volumes (permanent, SATA interface, not USB) be automatically mounted?
[16:03] <rexwin> but ping gateway doesn't
[16:03] <erUSUL> !fstab | NicEXE
[16:03] <NicEXE> I don't know how to setup my fstab
[16:03] <kanhiya78> all other are sleeping
[16:03] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, so theese are the only 2 rocesses that use cpu?
[16:04] <adeola0405> pls how do i install tar files
[16:04] <_seraphim_> kanhiya78, then why do you say cpu stays in 100%?
[16:04] <goat_srv> adeola0405: you don't install tar files, think of them like zips
[16:04] <srini> any know what exactly the reason of not playing audio in ubuntu
[16:04] <n8tuser> rexbron-> ping does not work with VirtualBox NAT networking
[16:04] <adeola0405> ya
[16:04] <SlimeyPete> adeola0405: you use "tar -xvf mytarfile.tar" to extract, then you go into the directory that was created and read the README file
[16:04] <_seraphim_> adeola0405, tar xzvf filename
[16:05] <n8tuser> rexwin-> ping does not work with VirtualBox NAT networking
[16:05] <gunny> two issues with intrepid, when I plug my USB headset in, the sound system doesn't recognize it, and when I do manually enable the USB headset, the volume adjustment is broken, won't stay in sync, right side specifically. Anyone else have this?
[16:05] <goat_srv> adeola0405: inside them could be packages to install, but usually its better to find .deb files
[16:05] <kanhiya78> i do not know why but in graphs it is showing that my cpu usage is 100% and also fan speed verifies that
[16:05] <rexwin> thank will build on that
[16:05] <adeola0405> does that work with .tar.bz2 as well
[16:06] <kanhiya78> in processes tab
[16:06] <goat_srv> adeola0405: include a j in the -xjvf
[16:06] <SlimeyPete> adeola0405: tar -xvjf      for tar.bz2
[16:06] <bin1010> where do I talk to someone about a "bug" in the new 8.10 kernel
[16:06] <bin1010> do I have to go to the ubuntu-dev
[16:06] <axel_s> hi, i'm looking for a good, reliable software with which I can transform my DVD-9 movies to DVD-5 or MPEG4
[16:06] <ardchoille> !bugs | bin1010
[16:06] <RenzoreK> I currently have upgraded to Kubuntu I.Ibex but I want to install gnome/Ubuntu I.Ibex what package do I need?
[16:06] <SOURdiesel> adeola0405: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[16:07] <kanhiya78> cpu usage 100% and memory 27%
[16:07] <sharperguy> how do I find out the name of my wifi driver?
[16:07] <adeola0405> thanks
[16:07] <kanhiya78> swap 1%
[16:07] <punzada> does anyone have any suggestions for a (preferably console-based) application that can tell me which running process is using x amount of bandwidth?
[16:07] <goat_srv> punzada: top
[16:07] <ardchoille> punzada: htop
[16:07] <kanhiya78> will anybody clarify that
[16:07] <punzada> hmm, didn't know they monitored bandwidth as well, ty
[16:07] <snowveil> After upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10, my printer (canon ip6600d) no longer prints...I get the error "couldn't read xref table" when trying a test page in CUPS
[16:08] <dulak> kanhiya78: you are in system monitor?
[16:08] <ardchoille> punzada: gkrellm monitors bandwidth
[16:08] <kanhiya78> ye
[16:08] <Jeruvy> snowveil: try removing and readding the printers in cups
[16:08] <kanhiya78> yes
[16:08] <goat_srv> punzada: oh, sorry netwrok bandwidth, i was wrong
[16:08] <snowveil> Jeruvy, tried it
[16:08] <billiejoex> I'm sorry, I'm not a native speaker. Could someone tell me if this thing I wrote is correct in English? http://rafb.net/p/Wd0InZ49.html
[16:08] <dulak> kanhiya78: you can go to the processes tab and sort by cpu usage so you can see what is using up all the cpu
[16:08] <bazhang> billiejoex, is this related to ubuntu
[16:08] <punzada> ty ardchoille ill give that a shot
[16:09] <goat_srv> billiejoex: it seems logical
[16:09] <csilk> billiejoex,  that looks pretty good to me
[16:09] <kanhiya78> i processes tab ; it shows that two processes are running and they are using 12-14%
[16:09] <billiejoex> really? thanks guys
[16:10] <kanhiya78> but in resources it is showing 100%
[16:10] <dulak> kanhiya78: click on the cpu column header to sort it, then click it again to sort it descending
[16:10] <kanhiya78> fan speed also increased and it is not going down
[16:11] <ardchoille> Is Intrepid an LTS release? Is there a list of which releases are LTS?
[16:11] <KDB9000> _seraphim_,  I am back, have you turned up anything i can try?
[16:11] <dulak> ardchoille: hardy is LTS
[16:11] <erUSUL> ardchoille: no; hardy 8.04 is
[16:11] <ardchoille> dulak: Oh, ok, thanks
[16:11] <erUSUL> !lts
[16:11] <kanhiya78> no same results
[16:11] <ardchoille> thanks erUSUL
[16:12] <ardchoille> well, Intrepid is working freat, I don't need to go back to Hardy.
[16:12] <konam> hi, I'm having problems with network-manager. it has been disconnecting itself from my wireless network from time to time (few minutes)
[16:12] <ardchoille> s/freat/great/
[16:12] <kanhiya78> 2-3 processes are running and they ae not using so much
[16:12] <awakebyjava> right, newb question again
[16:13] <LLMP> is it worth getting ubuntu 8.10
[16:13] <konam> it's hard to notice it web browsing but downloading files you can
[16:13] <awakebyjava> how do i install a program, like unetbootin?
[16:13] <kanhiya78> it is big problem
[16:13] <ardchoille> LLMP: I think it is, I haven't seen any problems
[16:13] <awakebyjava> one that i dont get through the program manager
[16:13] <theunixgeek> What's the difference between the DVD and CD editions of Ubuntu?
[16:13] <LLMP> what about the wireless i heard it has problems
[16:13] <kanhiya78> because cpu usage should not remain at high level
[16:13] <ardchoille> theunixgeek: the dvd just has more packages on it
[16:13] <LLMP> and the drivers aren't supported right
[16:14] <MBR> how do i change gnome's desktop icons so they all the same size? is it in gconfig and if so whats the key to do it
[16:14] <goat_srv> LLMP: depends on the hardware, my intel wireless works fine
[16:14] <kanhiya78> please tell me solution of this
[16:14] <goat_srv> LLMP: but there are known issues on ubuntu.com
[16:14] <theunixgeek> ardchoille: where can I find a list of them?
[16:14] <kanhiya78> is any viruse may be causing this
[16:15] <SlimeyPete> kanhiya78: very unlikely to be a virus
[16:15] <thetAnk> hey All
[16:15] <ardchoille> theunixgeek: I don't know about that
[16:15] <falken> /j #adhd-chat
[16:15] <theunixgeek> ardchoille: does it have Qt development packages on it? :)
[16:15] <goat_srv> theunixgeek: dvd downloads: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[16:15] <NicEXE> can anyone help me configure my fstab file?
[16:16] <LLMP> ya i saw those
[16:16] <thetAnk> i need help fixing flAsh in hArdy, it's very choppy
[16:16] <ardchoille> theunixgeek: I don't know, but I know it doesn't have anything the repos don't have
[16:16] <kanhiya78> i do not know but when i open firefox everytime i got a message that a firefox is already running click ok to terminate
[16:16] <theunixgeek> goat_srv: I know where I can get it - in fact, I'm downloading it now, but I wanted to know what packages were on it
[16:16] <goat_srv> theunixgeek: ahh sorry
[16:16] <theunixgeek> ardchoille: ok - the problem is that, due to certain ISP problems too long to explain now, I won't be able to get internet on my Linux computer for a while
[16:17] <theunixgeek> goat_srv: it's ok :)
[16:17] <kanhiya78> this may be due to virus or wrong updates
[16:17] <ardchoille> theunixgeek: you can just download the livecd and get stuff from the repos, it's the same packages
[16:17] <ardchoille> theunixgeek: Ah, ok
[16:17] <dulak> kanhiya78: drop to a terminal and run "killall firefox"
[16:17] <cruzton> via the command line, how can i quicly tell what ver of ubuntu a system is (like a /etc/redhat* or /etc/debian_version file)
[16:18] <ardchoille> cruzton: lsb_release -a
[16:18] <kanhiya78> ok
[16:18] <kanhiya78> done
[16:18] <cruzton> ardchoille: nice, thanks!
[16:18] <kanhiya78> let me try again
[16:19] <kanhiya78> same window appearing again
[16:19] <awakebyjava> okay, so unetbootin would be great, but the box doesnt have a usb port and i dont have a serial to usb adapter
[16:19] <byebyte> hi, i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, now all i get at boot is tty1 nothing on tty, any ideas
[16:19] <kanhiya78> when i click to firfox at panel
[16:19] <awakebyjava> any way i can do a network install from this box to that one?
[16:19] <w0lt> Has anyone had any trouble with not being able to wake up the display using 8.10?  Mine will lock up the display (Dell GX260)
[16:20] <kanhiya78> how to show you a screenshot
[16:20] <utnubu_user> does anyone here knows how to fix firefox, so that I can send emails using hotmail?
[16:20] <kanhiya78> to clarify my problem
[16:21] <lianimator> kanhiya78: was anything killed?
[16:21] <kanhiya78> no
[16:21] <lianimator> kanhiya78: try "killall fire<tab>"
[16:21] <kanhiya78> ok
[16:21] <goat_srv> kanhiya78: add sudo to the beginning
[16:21] <ror_newb> is there any good application for taking notes with a wacom graphics tablet?
[16:21] <lianimator> utnubu_user: are you really a utnubu user?"
[16:22] <lianimator> goat_srv: I don't think sudo is needed
[16:22] <kanhiya78> ok
[16:22] <goat_srv> lianimator: true
[16:22] <kanhiya78> but i got sytax error
[16:22] <thetAnk> i need help fixing flAsh in hArdy, it's very choppy
[16:22] <rsvp> hi all
[16:22] <metbsd> is htere way to convert xbuntu to kubuntu?
[16:23] <utnubu_user> lianimator, I am using ultimate edition
[16:23] <rsvp> what's the diff for netbooks between 8.10 and the Remix version?
[16:23] <goat_srv> maybe wubi could have been called utnubu?
[16:23] <utnubu_user> lianimator, what do you mean with your question?
[16:23] <kanhiya78> please type command seperatly
[16:23] <Jeruvy> metbsd: you can just add the packages, but I found it messy.  Cleaner to just backup /home and start fresh
[16:24] <thetAnk> Anyone know how to set up flAsh properly in hArdy
[16:24] <rand0m> wow my entire connection is extremely slow now that ive updated to 8.10
[16:24] <ror_newb> is there any good application for taking notes with a wacom graphics tablet?
[16:24] <jpm> Anyone had trouble with the VPN functions in 8.10?
[16:24] <rand0m> had trouble with a lot of functions in 8.10 so far heh
[16:24] <rsvp> who's using a netbook now?
[16:25] <kanhiya78> guys thanks for trying with me but it is late night in india and i am going to sleep
[16:25] <nban> Hello from Croatia
[16:25] <kanhiya78> ok good night from me
[16:25] <goat_srv> rsvp: i've been using a netbook (eee 901), and i get help for that alot in #eeepc
[16:25] <kanhiya78> i will try to resolve it tomorrow
[16:26] <platius> thetAnk; by what method did you install flashplayer?
[16:26] <rsvp> input form for Pidgin is wiggling up and down << any fix?
[16:26] <goat_srv> rsvp: but i use ubuntu-eee which is a customized version of ubuntu
[16:26] <nban> Audio problem is here
[16:26] <RickZilla> Any reason why this small graphics tablet won't work in Linux/ubuntu?  http://tinyurl.com/5zy4fo
[16:26] <knoppix> if you could only get your live CD running by deplugging a 2nd DVD drive you can or can't you just plug in the power of it while your PC is on?
[16:27] <thetAnk> plAtius, from Adobe viA *.deb
[16:27] <csilk> RickZilla, does it have a driver?
[16:27] <vincent_> hello everyone
[16:27] <the_newbie> how can I send emails on hotmail? They changed it and I cannot send any email :(
[16:27] <rsvp> thinking of going w/ HP notebook when it gets down to $99 (w/ tethering ;)
[16:27] <rsvp> [netbook]
[16:27] <RickZilla> csilk:  Looks like it works in Windows and Mac, but they don't say anything about Linux
[16:27] <rlj> hi all. i'm in the middle of the intrepid upgrade process, and it now asks me for permission to "remove obsolete packages" (step 5/6). looking through the list, i find at least a couple of things i'd like to keep and that seem not to exist anymore in the intrepid repos. other stuff there on the other hand, i might get rid of. since there's no way to manually select/deselect packages, i'd like to keep all packages for now, and 
[16:28] <csilk> RickZilla, Look on the website and see if it has a linux driver, also try google
[16:28] <|neon|> is there something i need to do to get my desktop settings to stay after i reboot, everything goes back to default, i tried session manager already without any luck, i can go on appearance and change everything the way i want but everything is lost once i reboot, any suggestions thanks
[16:28] <lianimator> RickZilla: ya it should work... if Linux support the drivers
[16:28] <strange> hey guys whats a good program to burn mp3 cds that supports m3u files?
[16:28] <nban> Have a problem wih Terratec on Ubuntu 8.10........plz...........help
[16:28] <rlj> preferably, i'd like not to have to screenshot the whole thing, one portion at a time (since the window can't even be resized!!?)
[16:28] <thetAnk> platius; from Adobe viA *.deb
[16:28] <RickZilla> lianimator:  Does ubuntu have a list somewhere of supported drivers like this?
[16:28] <platius> thetAnk; I installed from synaptics after I did sudo install ubuntu-restricted-extras and I am not having any problems.
[16:28] <lianimator> RickZilla: not really sure
[16:28] <goat_srv> rlj: obsolete packages dont have to be removed, but you wont be able to use them in intrepid (hence obsolete)
[16:29] <lianimator> RickZilla: if you can find out what hardware is used, then you can do some research
[16:29] <Matic`Makovec> Is there any new ways of configuring Logitech MX510 in 8.10?
[16:29] <KDB9000> Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove?
[16:29] <RickZilla> ok...I'll go over to the site and do a search....thanks for your help lianimator
[16:29] <BoltClock> hi, totem on my hardy install can't play youtube videos, it just says "ffdemux_swf: Element doesn't implement handling of this stream. Please file a bug." but bugs are already filed in launchpad and i cant find a solution
[16:29] <thetAnk> platius; ill give that a try
[16:29] <rlj> goat_srv: can i recreate the list of obsolete packages later on, so i know which ones ubuntu deemed obsolete?
[16:29] <platius> thetAnk; I don't know how to remve your current one
[16:29] <cliff> hi everyone. I've got a question - is there a guitar processor emulator for Ubuntu or smth like that?
[16:30] <goat_srv> rlj: not that i'm aware of
[16:30] <rsvp> formatting bars in Pidgin causes wiggle << fix done
[16:30] <goat_srv> rlj: why do you want to save any of them?
[16:30] <rlj> goat_srv: and it doesn't save this list to any log either?
[16:30] <the_newbie> how can I fix firefox to send emails on hotmail? They changed it and I cannot send any email :(
[16:30] <platius> thetAnk; I have used this method on 3 PCs with success
[16:30] <strange> no one here knows a cd burning program? with a gui?
[16:31] <goat_srv> rlj: there is a way to see the apt history, but i haven't looked into it
[16:31] <lianimator> when I type "fi" and "ff" they look different.. (smaller, thinner) does anyone have this problem in Intrepid?
[16:31] <DJones> strange: K3b, gnomebaker, brasero are all cd buring app's with a gui
[16:31] <_cb> When I try to import a csv file into evolution it only gives me my address books as an option but this mail is from a mail folder in outlook and want to put it into a mail folder. What am I doing wrong?
[16:31] <rlj> goat_srv: ok, thanks for the help anyway. i'll go with the screenshot approach for now. sigh. i wish they at least allowed you to resize the window.
[16:31] <rsvp> my hard drive is making metallic noises (but only at start up) << what do ya think?
[16:31] <DJones> !burn | strange
[16:32] <strange> thanks
[16:32] <csilk> rsvp, join the club.. mine was making some weird squeking noise every time it booted, I eventually changed it due to fear of the whole things just diring
[16:32] <csilk> *dieing
[16:32] <strange> any of those you recommend
[16:32] <rsvp> dying ;)
[16:32] <goat_srv> strange: i like brasero
[16:32] <csilk> yeah that's the one
[16:33] <DJones> strange: I use either gnomebaker, brasero or K3b, all pretty much the same and easy to use
[16:33] <rsvp> csilk, I just bakup
[16:33] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:34] <rsvp> leaving the machine on, no shut down... -- is that healthy :)
[16:34] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:34] <glukobrassizin> 3
[16:34] <glukobrassizin> sorry
[16:35] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:35] <csilk> rsvp, every hdd will eventually burn out with contant useage
[16:35] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:35] <csilk> rsvp, the one I canged was about 6 years old when it stared squeaking
[16:36] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:36] <rsvp> yeah, but it's been less then ONE year here!
[16:36] <goat_srv> !repeat | Qoel
[16:36] <rsvp> normally it's about 5 years...
[16:36] <jatuuu> hi - im having a problem with pidgin, it seems that now I've added some irc channels to my contact list  - pidgin crashes on startup - is there a fix for this?
[16:37] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:37] <rsvp> so jatuuu, then how did you get on here ? ;)
[16:37] <jatuuu> xchat
[16:37] <rsvp> haaa
[16:37] <bobbiem> can have some help with how to install ubuntu 8.10
[16:38] <rsvp> I just started w/ pidgin t-1
[16:38] <jatuuu> t-1?
[16:38] <rsvp> yesterday
[16:38] <jatuuu> a
[16:38] <jatuuu> ha
[16:39] <belatun> kennt wer eine möglichkeit auf einer festplatte  container einzurichten die mountbar sind ? die größe darf aber nicht fest sein sondern muss vom inhalt gegeben werden
[16:39] <Pici> !de | belatun
[16:39] <Qoel> Can someone help me to get my ESS SOUNDDRIVE working?
[16:39] <KDB9000> Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove? I would like to get this problem fixed so I can install some programs onto my system again.
[16:39] <bobbiem> i need help installing ubuntu 8.10
[16:39] <_pingu> Is there a list in which i can look if my soundcard is supported?
[16:39] <jenka> I need help with lamp! When i type in localhost in my web browser its goes to localhost/xampp but i want it to display the files in localhost... Please help!!
[16:40] <KDB9000> bobbiem, just throe the problem out there and someone will answer it if they know the answer
[16:40] <[c0re]> anyone here who can help me with dial up?
[16:40] <KDB9000> jenka, are you using LAMP or XAMPP
[16:40] <jenka> XAMPP
[16:40] <bobbiem> i have burned a 8.10 to a cd. when i restart  to run the cd it doesnt seem to work... anyone HELP!
[16:41] <goat_srv> bobbiem: describe "doesn't seem to work" better
[16:41] <DJones> Qoel: It doesn't look as though anybody is around with an answer for you at the minute, it'll probably be worth waiting for half an hour and asking again then, a lot of people will be watching/taking part in the ubuntu-classroom sessions that are on at the minute so won't be watching the channel
[16:41] <Jeruvy> is there a fix for the crashes to 'create a usb install' process?
[16:41] <KDB9000> jenka, in the htdocs of XAMPP there is a file called index.html, that is forwarding you to localhost/xampp. you can remove that file and put your own in and it should work.
[16:42] <complex-02> anybody know how to install xp theme on ubuntu 8.04?
[16:42] <bobbiem> the iso is on my desk top. when i open it, its a bunch of folders and files
[16:42] <KDB9000> jenka, just to be safe, make a backup of index.html and save it somewhere else, just in case
[16:42] <goat_srv> ewww complex-02
[16:42] <complex-02> please guide me
[16:42] <jenka> I have remove that and put my files in there but it does not work :(
[16:42] <[c0re]> complex-02, you cant installl xp themes
[16:42] <complex-02> yes
[16:42] <complex-02> please guide me
[16:42] <Pici> complex-02: Its not possible.
[16:43] <Jeruvy> !themes > complex-02
[16:43] <LetterRip> hi all, I'm getting shutdowns when compiling after updating to ubuntu ibex x64 (previously used ubuntu hardy x86) for amd 64
[16:43] <Pici> bobbiem: Your computer's BIOS needs to be set to allow booting from the CD drive.
[16:43] <neildf> is there any way you can get a history of what the load average has been?
[16:43] <LetterRip> i haven't compiled anything for quite a while
[16:43] <bobbiem> what is BIOS? and how i change it?
[16:43] <KDB9000> bobbiem, it could be a bad burn or a messed up ISO that you burned, or you could have a troubled CD-ROM. also check what Pici said.
[16:43] <LetterRip> so it might be coincidental
[16:44] <[c0re]> can anyone help me with dialup?
[16:44] <Pici> neildf: 'uptime' will tell you what to 5, 10 and 15 minute averages are.
[16:44] <LetterRip> but i think the fan is being managed improperly
[16:44] <LetterRip> because it never sounds like a 'jet engine'
[16:44] <sambagirl> morning
[16:44] <LetterRip> except for on startup
[16:44] <csilk> bobbiem,  I hope you burned the iso as an image rather than just cd data
[16:44] <Qoel> Why can nobody help me =[ Always the same =P
[16:44] <rsvp> python morning
[16:44] <neildf> Pici -> yeah, i'm aware of that. was looking for what the load may have been 2 hours ago
[16:44] <sambagirl> everytime i login sudo root i put in the passwd but it doesnt like it?
[16:44] <complex-02> too many links
[16:44] <complex-02> which one is the best
[16:45] <csilk> Qoel, have you googled your sound issue?
[16:45] <Pici> complex-02: Whichever you like the best
[16:45] <shawng_work> any one know how to remove this message from ubuntu "Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.com/" when you login to the ssh shell
[16:45] <goat_srv> sambagirl: thats because the root password is encrypted,  just sudo <command>
[16:45] <rsvp> wine is better than whine -- tha'ts why ;)
[16:45] <neildf> (guess average should have been ommitted) :)
[16:45] <Pici> neildf: Nothing by default logs that
[16:45] <Qoel> Yes.. threads without answer..
[16:45] <neildf> cool, thanks!
[16:45] <sambagirl> ahh ok thanks goat_srv
[16:45] <complex-02> getting confuse
[16:45] <knoppix> if you could only get your live CD running by deplugging a 2nd DVD drive you can or can't you just plug in the power of it while your PC is on?
[16:45] <Qoel> csilk, yes.. threads without answer..
[16:45] <DeFi> hi all, my dads pc is fscked up, when it boots it says there are illegal blocks etc and fsck wants to clear them, how must i fix this???
[16:45] <bobbiem> csilk, i am not sure what i did.!
[16:46] <csilk> bobbiem,  and there lies your problem
[16:46] <goat_srv> sambagirl: if you would like to stay in a root environment for a few commands, you can just type sudo -i   and it will take you into the root shell
[16:46] <goat_srv> sambagirl: and "exit" without hte quotes will remove you from it
[16:46] <LetterRip> does anyone have suggestions on testing/enabling a higher fan state?
[16:46] <sambagirl> now when i type sudo root it just doesnt even offer the prompt for pw anymore
[16:46] <bobbiem> csilk, ok i am going to try it again, thank you
[16:46] <complex-02> i already open this link http://ubuntu.hamdi.web.id/themes/roy-windows-royale-on-ubuntu.html
[16:46] <complex-02> but still can understand
[16:46] <complex-02> cant
[16:46] <goat_srv> sambagirl: sudo root is not valid
[16:46] <rsvp> or just "sudo bash" << sambagirl
[16:46] <sambagirl> ok so i do su root
[16:46] <goat_srv> sambagirl: su root
[16:47] <goat_srv> sambagirl: but you don't want to do that,  just sudo -i
[16:47] <sambagirl> su roo  tgive auth failure
[16:47] <sambagirl> ok
[16:47] <DeFi> if anyone can help i would be very appreciative, this is a big problem :(
[16:47] <ardchoille> goat_srv: su root won't work anyway
[16:47] <goat_srv> ardchoille: i know
[16:47] <sambagirl> ahh ok i did sudo bash and now i am root@jaguar
[16:47] <sambagirl> \that is right yes?
[16:47] <Jeruvy> DeFi: do what fsck tells you.
[16:47] <goat_srv> sambagirl: you are in root
[16:48] <csilk> DeFi, letws fschk do it's job
[16:48] <goat_srv> sambagirl: be safe
[16:48] <csilk> *let
[16:48] <ardchoille> sambagirl: don't stay in that root env too long
[16:48] <ardchoille> "man who play in root eventually kill tree"
[16:48] <rsvp> woot
[16:48] <goat_srv> nice ^^
[16:48] <sambagirl> goat_srv i am in vmware so i cant do any harm , i am practicing something before using it :D
[16:49] <goat_srv> sambagirl: ok, just saying what every linux user should know
[16:49] <MBR> how do i setup gnome so the icons are all the same size on the desktop ?
[16:49] <sambagirl> ahh it is working :)
[16:49] <cassis> hello there
[16:49] <DeFi> Jeruvy / csilk: it says there are invalid blocks must it clear <y>? if i say yes it asks again, after a while it says theres too many invalid blocks, must it clear all <y>? - i have already cleared quite alot but im scared im gonna lose data?? :/
[16:49] <sambagirl> this is doing it :)
[16:49] <ror_newb> is there a wya to test taht new xserver from redhat in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[16:49] <cassis> how can i pause the diaporama in eye of gnome? P isn't working...
[16:49] <Oni_of_z_AsH> can ubuntu play windows games? e.g war craft
[16:49] <MichaelKohler> MBR: in the nautilus settings
[16:50] <KDB9000> Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove? I would like to get this problem fixed so I can install some programs onto my system again.
[16:50] <Pici> !wine | Oni_of_z_AsH
[16:50] <sambagirl> this whole scene is the bomb :D
[16:50] <Jeruvy> DeFi: that is a reality you must face.  It sounds like a disk problem
[16:50] <csilk> DeFi, well, you may lose data I don't know. It Looks like you hdd has alot of badblocks
[16:50] <DeFi> it just suddenly happened though?
[16:50] <DeFi> like out of no where?
[16:50] <rsvp> did the drive make metallic sounds?
[16:50] <MBR> MichaelKohler, would that be using the gconfig utility ?
[16:50] <punzada> does anyone know if a console equivilent to the binary usenet reader 'pan'? something as close as possile in terms of being able to download headders, browse them, and proper download/decode them is what i'm looking for just for console instead of x, and I can't find a single piece of software that does it, its really shocking to me ;x
[16:50] <DeFi> no it doesnt rsvp
[16:50] <Jeruvy> DeFi: probably not, it's probably been going on (ignored) until it just snapped :)
[16:51] <DeFi> sigh
[16:51] <sambagirl> what does this mean? E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:51] <MichaelKohler> MBR: actually I don't know. I did it with the preferences in nautilus
[16:51] <DeFi> is there any way to be able to backup the data before i continue fsck?
[16:51] <sambagirl> Defi just copy it to another volume
[16:51] <goat_srv> sambagirl: that means the installer failed, where did you see that?
[16:52] <shawng_work>  any one know how to remove this message from ubuntu "Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.com/" when you login to the ssh shell ???
[16:52] <rsvp> someone had a mp3 of metallic noises from hd crashes... pointer?  just for fun
[16:52] <Jeruvy> DeFi: try a dd to backup any data (no guarantee) or a image recovery tool (see google).  Then find out who made your drive, visit their website and download a diagnostic tool.  Also see smartctl
[16:52] <ardchoille> !sysresccd
[16:52] <sambagirl> just a minute let me let it do what it is trying to do and then  i will post a pastebin
[16:52] <Pici> !pm | Oni_of_z_AsH
[16:52] <rsvp> wonder how the google server farm sounds like?
[16:52] <chuckmoney> DeFi, short of a disk image, no.  You can't mount it without fsck from the sound of it, so the best you can do is disk image it, either using dd for a direct copy or a utility from a livecd like maybe partimage
[16:52] <Qoel> [ 2870.650446] es18xx-pnpbios 01:01.01: activated
[16:52] <Qoel> [ 2870.657802] es18xx-pnpbios 01:01.01: disabled
[16:52] <Qoel> [ 2870.657855] es18xx-pnpbios: probe of 01:01.01 failed with error -2
[16:52] <Qoel> [ 2870.660338] es18xx 01:01.00: activated
[16:52] <Qoel> [ 2870.662931] es18xx 01:01.01: activated
[16:52] <FloodBot3> Qoel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <goat_srv> sambagirl: you cannot run apt-get commands and have synaptic or updater open at the same time, for example
[16:53] <sambagirl> bbiab
[16:53] <mikebeecham> wow...so I just found out that Intrepid stops webcams working!!!
[16:53] <Jeruvy> mikebeecham: thats not all ...  see launchpad.net :)
[16:53] <chuckmoney> mike, my EEE's webcam works on intrepid.  just about the only thing that did.
[16:54] <chuckmoney> wifi, bluetooth, hell even the dual core-ed-ness of the processor, all failed on Intrepid alpha.  but the webcam won't work on gutsy or hardy.
[16:54] <mikebeecham> Jeruvy: chuckmoney...actually, the webcam is the only thing I've found so far
[16:54] <Oni_of_z_AsH> when i run netbeans in ubuntu it often crashes..i get some log files "hrr.log" in my home folder..i used to get that problem on windows as well..y? My PC works just fine with all other programs
[16:54] <Jeruvy> mikebeecham: ah you haven't tried hard enough :)
[16:54] <chuckmoney> it runs hardy now :)
[16:55] <mikebeecham> Jeruvy: I'm a simple guy :D
[16:55] <chuckmoney> you might consider maybe using the restricted kernel modules from hardy or gutsy in intrepid.  or find the specific .so file for your cam and just copy it over
[16:55] <rsvp> ubuntu monitors your patience, then relents at 83% or so, then works forever.
[16:56] <bobbiem> csilk,ok it says that the image is being copied to disc image file. does that siound right?
[16:56] <rsvp> ... well, until the next revision!
[16:56] <mikebeecham> chuckmoney: I've been using linux a week...I dont think thats going to happen right now :P
[16:56] <csilk> bobbiem,  yeah sounds fine, what software you useing?
[16:56] <Flannel> Oni_of_z_AsH: sounds like a bug in netbeans, especially if it happens regardless of OS
[16:56] <chuckmoney> I have an old server running feisty and had to manually give it the hardy package from hardy so my unison version would be the same.  sometimes you just have to merge versions like that.  it's ugly but it works.
[16:56] <rsvp> ok this is not macworld
[16:57] <bobbiem> csilk, what do you mean by software?
[16:57] <Flannel> chuckmoney: You're aware feisty is EOL, correct?
[16:57] <chuckmoney> quite
[16:57] <KDB9000>  Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove? I would like to get this problem fixed so I can install some programs onto my system again.
[16:57] <metbsd> how do i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[16:57] <csilk> bobbiem,  the software you are using to burn the cd?
[16:57] <Flannel> !upgrade | metbsd
[16:57] <chuckmoney> and at some point I'll upgrade it to Hardy.  about the same time I get a new motherboard that'll take something above a P2
[16:57] <rsvp> BTW, why is 7.10 not on board w/ Firefox 3.0?
[16:58] <rsvp> I have backports on
[16:58] <Oni_of_z_AsH> i forgot to say. even eclipse crashes often in windows 4 my PC only..but in ubuntu it works fine..weird!
[16:58] <think_linux> is it possible to move more than one file at a time with the MV command??
[16:58] <Flannel> rsvp: Because backports happen casually.
[16:58] <satin> а русские есть?
[16:58] <n8tuser> think_linux-> yes
[16:58] <bobbiem> csilk, i am not sure, i just downloaded the file  and right clicked to burn it
[16:58] <bobbiem> csilk, it doesnt seem to be burning anymore
[16:58] <rsvp> Flannel, "casually"?
[16:58] <Flannel> !ru | satin
[16:58] <think_linux> n8tuser, may i askhow?:)
[16:59] <n8tuser> think_linux-> mv  f1 f2 f3 f4 f5  destinationdir
[16:59] <chuckmoney> think_linux: yes but I think you can use regex or wildcards.  not sure if you can actually list multiple files.  maybe comma-seperated?
[16:59] <think_linux> chuckmoney: ill try comma
[16:59] <deus_> update-manager -d says there is to little space
[16:59] <deus_> put its not
[16:59] <chuckmoney> think_linux: like for example you could do this: mv pic00*.jpg /home/chuck/Pictures/
[17:00] <chuckmoney> using the * wildcard
[17:00] <Flannel> rsvp: Whenever the people have freetime.  backports for most things (especially to older releases, like Gutsy) happen when the people doing them don't have more important things to do.  Firefox2 works just fine, FF3 isn't a priority
[17:00]  * jobe is otherwise occupied: Gone away for now
[17:00] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[17:00] <Ximal> is there a way to trace an ip bak to it's origin and find out the provider giving out said ip address ?
[17:00] <Flannel> !away > jobe
[17:00] <beta> Ximal , use WHOIS
[17:01] <rsvp> Flannel, but FF3 is 43% faster than 2 for js lib.
[17:01] <Flannel> rsvp: I suggest upgrading to 8.04 then, it has FF3
[17:01] <scales111> hi all i am trying to install the command line version of ubuntu from a usb drive.  i made/formatted the drive using unetbootin and for some reason the install is trying to get online to get the install files.  i dont have internet access on that laptop so i need it to just get the files off the usb that it booted from tips?
[17:02] <KDB9000>  Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove? I would like to get this problem fixed so I can install some programs onto my system again.
[17:02] <rdz> hi all. i accidently hit the 'enable kerberos' switch in the cups administration page and since then i cannot add any printers. how can i disable kerberos for cups again?
[17:02] <rsvp> I'm thinking of just installing 3.1 w/ TraceMonkey directly when that appears... even faster than FF3.0
[17:03] <Twinkletoes|W> Using yppasswd <user> to change a user's password under NIS, I'm asked to supply the root password before the user's new password (I've already done sudo su - and am at a root prompt).  Given that by default, the root password on Ubuntu is scrambled, what can I do without setting a root password to make this work?
[17:03] <egoflux> why doesn't gnome apply the icon sets to all the icons?
[17:03] <rsvp> but I am a bit worried about bypassing synaptic (losing the dependencies) << what do you advise, Flannel?
[17:04] <Flannel> Twinkletoes|W: The root account is locked, it doesn't have a scrambled password.  You could temporarily set a root password, and then re-lock it again after you're done.
[17:04] <ich> http://www.unsere-nackte-pyjamaparty.net/?id=5947352
[17:04] <Twinkletoes|W> Flannel: Thats a pain if I Want to make password changes quite a lot... and in fact I did it successfully yesterday and today without changing the config, so I don't know what's missing
[17:05] <Pici> Twinkletoes|W: you can use sudo -i for an interactive 'root' session if you need access for a period of time.
[17:05] <Twinkletoes|W> Pici: Already at a root prompt
[17:05] <Twinkletoes|W> Pici: (sudo su -)
[17:05] <RemsSs> pour changer le mot de passe root redemarrer en mode sans echec et taper sudo passwd root
[17:05] <Pici> RemsSs: English please.
[17:06] <RemsSs> ok Pici
[17:06] <Flannel> RemsSs: Please don't recommend setting a root password here.
[17:06] <shane2peru> ARRRGHH  has anyone tried to use dvd-slideshow in intrepid?
[17:06] <chuckmoney> Twinkletoes|W: I believe there's another argument to sudo -i that will load the "root profile" (the default is the user's profile with root permissions).  I don't remember what it is, but there is one.
[17:06] <Pici> chuckmoney: sudo -s
[17:06] <shane2peru> dvd-slideshow doesn't work it is an ffmpeg error
[17:06] <Twinkletoes|W> chuckmoney: Pici: Thanks, let me try that
[17:06] <rand0m> soooo are there any support people around?  or just a million people with a million different questions?
[17:06] <Flannel> rsvp: I suggest upgrading to 8.04, you'll likely enjoy the other verion bumps as well (all of the other software).
[17:07] <jenka>  I need help with xampp! When i type in localhost in my web browser its goes to localhost/xampp but i want it to display the files in localhost... Please help!!
[17:07] <shane2peru> does anyone have any ideas on ffmpeg
[17:07] <shane2peru> ?
[17:07] <Flannel> jenka: Use a proper LAMP stack instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  A single line (using tasksel, see that page) will install it for oyu.
[17:07] <chuckmoney> Twinkletoes|W: if that doesn't work, then yeah, you'll have to set a temp root password and use that method, but it's awfully sloppy plus if you forget to switch it back, you've basically negated the security of disabling direct root logins.
[17:08] <Twinkletoes|W> chuckmoney: I don't want to set a temp root password, and I can't understand why it worked earlier on today, and yesterday
[17:08] <tsop> Hey I got a small problem, my laptop keybaord just stopped working I've done two reboots its fine at the KDM login manager, but as soon as I'm /in/ it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?
[17:08] <knight3000> Hello all
[17:08] <rsvp> but technically, what happens when something is installed outside of synaptic -- esp. the dependencies?
[17:08] <csilk> One thing that stops youi from gettin answers is just randomly saying "anyone got any ideas" etc etc If I look at my irc client and see that sort of question do you expect me to scoll up for 5 mins to find your original question????
[17:08] <RemsSs> Flannel that's why a speak french
[17:08] <dulak> chuckmoney: if sudo -i doesn't work, sudo su -
[17:08] <Dex-Freudii> hello fellows... i have a real FAQ, but I haven't found any answer yet... How can I speed up Ubuntu's booting time?
[17:08] <RemsSs> What is the difference of lamp and xampp
[17:08] <RemsSs> ?
[17:09] <dulak> chuckmoney: but sudo -i should simulate a root login
[17:09] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: I'm alreayd doing sudo su - to get my root shell
[17:09]  * Pe1o is happy to repot he is not crazzy or incompetent,  there is a problem with the murrina engine that makes Dust unstable and the gspca driver is broken in 2.6.27-7
[17:09] <tsop> LAMP = Linux Apache Mysql PHP/Python
[17:09] <knight3000> How come all the keyboards have a windows logo and not a linux logo???
[17:09] <knight3000> lmao
[17:09] <dulak> Tinkletoes|W: what's not working right?
[17:09] <RemsSs> $yes and xampp ?
[17:09] <Flannel> rsvp: The package manager won't know about it.  Also, you should install things manually only in /usr/local/* (well, and /opt), the rest of the filesystem is 'owned' by package management
[17:09] <Pe1o> knight3000, do what i do , take a pen knife and rub it off
[17:09] <chuckmoney> Flannel: I agree about upgrading to 8.04 BTW, every version is better.  Except Vinagre.  The package maintainer for Vinagre needs to include the latest source, it has view scaling.  Else VNCing to something with a higher res scrolls off the screen.  It makes Vinagre unusable on an EEE.
[17:10] <Dex-Freudii> How can I speed up Ubuntu's booting time?
[17:10] <knight3000> pe1o lmao i could do just dont want windows anywere near my linux machine
[17:10] <knight3000> lmao
[17:10] <KDB9000> Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove? I would like to get this problem fixed so I can install some programs onto my system again.Can someone help me with a problem of a broken package (compiz-gnome) that won't update, reinstall, or remove? I would like to get this problem fixed so I can install some programs onto my system again.
[17:10] <Flannel> RemsSs: xamp is LAMP bundled together.  It originally was created for windows users (since setting up all those servers and getting them to talk to each othe is more difficult on windows)
[17:10] <tsop> RemsSs: the difference im guessing is wiht a LAMP stack you build it yourself, XAMPP seems to be a helper package for all that.
[17:10] <KDB9000> opps
[17:10] <rsvp> that nice to know, thanks very much, Flannel!
[17:10] <keith1122> can someone help me
[17:10] <Pe1o> Dex-Freudii, remove unneeded servives in meny > sys > admin > services ( you probably don'T need bluetooth) ,  go into /boot/grub/menu.lst and  change the timeout from 10 to 3 sec
[17:11] <keith1122> linux broke after installing a lot of packages at once
[17:11] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: When using yppasswd I get asked for a root password before I can change the user's password.  I can't remember seeing this until today, cos I changed passwords yesterday successfully
[17:11] <Dex-Freudii> Pelo, that I did, but still it takes more than a minute to boot up
[17:11] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: And being Ubuntu, I haven't set the root password
[17:11] <Pe1o> knight3000, it is unfortunate that there isn'T a simple linux logo that we can paint on instead
[17:11] <chuckmoney> KDB9000: I think there's an argument to apt-get you can run in a terminal.  I've used it but can't remember it.  Auto fixes broken packages.  Worst case you could try force-removing it with dpkg, maybe?
[17:11] <Flannel> Twinkletoes|W: Then obviously you don't need it.  What did you do differently yesterday?  Have you tried sudo yppasswd?  What about just hitting enter at the root password prompt?
[17:12] <KDB9000> chuckmoney, i already tried it and it failed
[17:12] <Twinkletoes|W> Flannel: I'm in exactly the same situation as I was yesterday, and using sudo su - to get my root prompt.  I@ve tried hitting ENTER too, but to no avail
[17:12] <Pe1o> Dex-Freudii, when booting, edit your boot line , add profile a the end,  this will make the initial boot time longer but the ones after that will be quiker
[17:12] <Twinkletoes|W> Flannel: If I could even get a decent error message out of it it would be better
[17:13] <BrickHaus> Dex-Freudii: startup apps that you don't use or don't have the ability to take advantage of I would remove. If you happen to have low ram then I would recommend buying more. Besides that I don't know what else will help.
[17:13] <Dex-Freudii> Pelo, which file?
[17:13] <Pe1o> knight3000, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[17:13] <chuckmoney> KDB9000: I'm all out then.  If you absolutely must you could manually edit the local cache of packages but every time you do an apt-get update it will undo your changes.
[17:13] <rsvp> I've used "sudo bash" -
[17:13] <KDB9000> chuckmoney, there seems to be a problem in /usr/sbin/update-gconf-defaults file. somewhere around line 100 and 108
[17:13] <knight3000> Your right, Which might be an idea to submit to unbutu to have there own linux keyboards we could buy
[17:13] <keith1122> i get an error telling me to go and check my syslog
[17:13] <BrickHaus> Dex-Freudii: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:14] <Dex-Freudii> ok thanks
[17:14] <Dex-Freudii> i will try it
[17:14] <Dex-Freudii> brb
[17:14] <chuckmoney> KDB9000: maybe just copy the file from another working linux install then?
[17:14] <Pe1o> Dex-Freudii, when you boot ,  hit e to edit your regular boot selection , find the kernel line,  hit e again to edit that line,  type  profile at the end, type enter to accept , then b to boot
[17:14] <Pici> keith1122: Can you pastebin the exact error that you are getting?
[17:14] <Pici> !paste | keith1122
[17:14] <chuckmoney> KDB9000: or just from the LiveCD
[17:15] <shane2peru> am I the only one that uses dvd-slideshow?
[17:15] <KDB9000> chuckmoney, it has tried the old one and the new one that comes with the package and both failed. I will check to see if I can find a copy and compare it
[17:15] <keith1122> i don't get that far into linux, it just stops after trying to boot, with a message saying an internal error has ocured, it happened after downloading a crapload of different packages
[17:16] <BrickHaus> Pelo: wouldn't be easier to just edit grub while inside ubuntu?
[17:16] <sportman1280> hello, i need to install sbcl but i cant find it for LPIA.  Can anyone help me get it installed?  Im using a dell mini 9
[17:16] <tsop> Anyone would happen to know a fix for my keyboard? It suddenly stopped working, I've tried rebooting a few times now, its odd that at the KDM window it will work, but as soon as I'm /in/ the keyboard doesn't work at all.
[17:16] <Jaffarkelshac> how do i install the vlc version on hardy. the new one on ibex keeps freezes whilst playing video
[17:16] <Pe1o> BrickHaus, no , the edits at boot time are not permanent , simpler, now if he doesn'T re-edit grub to take out profile his boot will always be a lot longer
[17:16] <chuckmoney> KDB9000: yeah, try copying the file from a working system, but if that fails, I really don't know.  Again, you could edit the local list pf packages manually with a text editor and remove the package alltogether, as well as the depends: line from anything referencing it, but as soon as you do an apt-get update it will undo those changes.  it would let you install and remove software until then, though.
[17:17] <keith1122> is there a way for me to just re-install all my none custom files from windows
[17:17] <Pici> keith1122: Do you remember what you installed?
[17:17] <Gio> alguem do Brasil aew?
[17:17] <bobbiem> csilk, i am using 6.06  LTS and i would like to put Java on it so i can play games on pogo. i have tried following the help site, atonepoint i that i had got it to work, but nothing.
[17:17] <KDB9000> chuckmoney, but i didn't edit it manually. i was doing an update and it just failed.
[17:17] <keith1122> like, a bunch of open source games, and it was working fine last night, but now i can't get sever x to load
[17:17] <BrickHaus> Pelo: Oh.. so Ubuntu doesn't have a /boot/grub/grub.conf file? wow that's weird
[17:18] <dulak> Tinkletoes|W: so this is an NIS client or server?
[17:18] <keith1122> ive allready tired to do a repair on it
[17:18] <Pe1o> BrickHaus, ubuntu has the menu.lst file , I've never seen a grub.conf file
[17:19] <csilk> bobbiem, sudo apt-get install JAVAPACKAGE
[17:19] <chuckmoney> BrickHaus: Pelo is correct.  you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst on Ubuntu.  Even if there is a grub.conf it's not where the grub boot options are.
[17:20] <chocolatepuma> ciao
[17:20] <BrickHaus> Pelo: Wow.. that's really strange to me. Ok.. so I see why you suggested to do it at bootup grub prompt. Menu.lst is just a mirror or grub.conf but it's hidden or something. Kewl. I'm learning the Ubuntu way.. heh
[17:20] <Pe1o> chuckmoney, that's not what we are talking about , and I am specificlay telling him not to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ,   to do it from the boot menu , so the change isn'T permanent
[17:20] <chocolatepuma> come funziona qui?
[17:20] <Jaffarkelshac> how do i install the vlc version on hardy. the new one on ibex keeps freezes whilst playing video
[17:21] <Pici> !it | chocolatepuma
[17:21] <Pe1o> !it | chocolatepuma
[17:21] <bobbiem> csilk, it says E: Couldnt find package JAVAPACKAG
[17:21] <Pe1o> bobbiem,  sun-java6-jre
[17:21] <jacek> hi! is there enybody know book about LINUX/PAM ?
[17:21] <csilk> bobbiem, i dont knwo the name of the javapackage you have to find that yourself
[17:21] <sportman1280> can anyone help me install sbcl for lpia?  its not the repository for some reason
[17:21] <csilk> JAVAP{ACKAGE was supposed to be a variable -_-
[17:22] <chuckmoney> Pelo my apoligies...too many discussions to watch them all, but alas, I need to go grab lunch anyway...brb
[17:22] <csilk> Pelo he is running 6X is java6 available?
[17:22] <keith1122> ok, my linux hdd is reporting a low health
[17:22] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: is this an nis client or server you are on?
[17:22] <Pe1o> csilk, from the restricted repos yes
[17:22] <keith1122> i think thats the problem
[17:22] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: It's the NIS server, I've tried ti from a client aswell - same problem...
[17:22] <Marsjanin> Hello. After update to Ubuntu 8.10, my cron does not launch any window application. Console ones does. Is it some new feature of Ubuntu? :(
[17:23] <BrickHaus> Pelo: making changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst are for permanent changes and ones set at the Grub bootloader screen at bootup are only temporary?
[17:23] <BrickHaus> I assume so.. but just want to make sure.
[17:23] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,   add export DISPLAY:=0,0 command here
[17:23] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: you follow the nis howto?
[17:24] <chuckmoney> Marsjanin: If I'm not mistaken cron never does.  It's a system service.  It can't interact with X/GNome/etc.  I'd be suprised if cron can even interact with a user's terminal session.
[17:24] <beans> does anyone know how to get Ubuntu onto a MacBook?
[17:24] <MichaelKohler> beans: with BootCamp? or is it just for windows?
[17:24] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Yes... I tihnk you should know, that at 14:37 today, it worked:  "update <user_id> (uid=161767) from host <server_ip> successful"
[17:24] <csilk> beans, look for a tutorial
[17:24] <Exitialis> can anyone help me get my monitor resolution up to 1280x1024?
[17:24] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, actualy , coppy from this  export DISPLAY=:0 && nice -n 10 conky -d
[17:24] <beans> i can use BootCamp for it?
[17:25] <MichaelKohler> beans: was just a guess
[17:25] <beans> oh
[17:25] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: And now they're all failing... "update <user_id> (uid=161767) from host <server_ip> rejected"
[17:25] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: And the next line says "Invalid Password"
[17:25] <Exitialis> my monitor wont go higher than 600x480 :(
[17:25] <MichaelKohler> beans: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[17:25] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Is there a config file for rpc.yppasswdd or something?
[17:25] <beans> when I try to boot off of the ubuntu CD on my PC, it says theres a problem with the apic
[17:26] <rabe> hi everyone
[17:26] <chuckmoney> beans: If your MacBook is running an Intel processor then it should run Ubuntu exactly as a PC would.  If your MacBook is an older G3/G4/G5/etc then you'll have to use the Ubuntu compiled for it, which would be 6.06.  The newer versions of Ubuntu don't have a Mac version.
[17:26] <Exitialis> nothing concrete
[17:26] <beans> ok thx
[17:26] <BrickHaus> beans: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[17:26] <ay^> Exitialis: did you install any available drivers for it?
[17:26] <chuckmoney> beans: either that, or compile your own from all the current source packages, including your own kernel and everything.
[17:27] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: #1 - illegal identifier error or so.
[17:27] <rabe> x-server does not start with the rt-kernel (ubuntustudio) so i have only text-mode then - what can i do to find the problem?
[17:27] <Exitialis> no, dont know how to go about tht, first time with linux :)
[17:27] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: not really, just /etc/yp.conf
[17:27] <beans> i dont want to instal it, just boot off of it like you do on a PC
[17:27] <ay^> Exitialis: whats your gfxcard?
[17:27] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: In man 8 rpc.yppasswdd, it says "If this version of the server is compiled with the CHECKROOT=1 option, the password given  is  also  checked against the systems root password.".  HOwever, rpc.yppasswdd --version doesn't say that it is
[17:27] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, gimme the line you put in , the whole line , so I can edit it
[17:27] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: witha a dot, not comma, the same
[17:27] <Exitialis> now ur asking this is an old box, gimme a sec to open it up
[17:27] <ay^> Exitialis: sure
[17:27] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: My ypserver line is set to 127.0.0.1, should this be set to the real IP?
[17:27] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: You mean a line from crontab?
[17:28] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, yes the line you tried in crontab
[17:28] <Exitialis> gah, its on the motherboard, which is an old athlon 64 jobbie
[17:28] <Marsjanin> (sorry for being some 'late', thet's because my ENglish)
[17:28] <BrickHaus> beans: good luck.. You'll need to put out your MacBook bobber in here.. heh
[17:28] <Exitialis> this makes things more interesting :(
[17:28] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: pastebin it please
[17:28] <csilk> anyone know way pbuilder on itrepid thros this error > pbuilder: debootstrap failed from the command pbuilder create?
[17:28] <pyBry> I think I'm going to set up /etc/rc.d/rc.local to start the a Postgresql database server. Will that cause any problems with Ubuntu?
[17:28] <pyBry> [12:08pm] pyBry: Setup on Ubuntu via aptitude seemed to start the daemon from /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3, but that may be an idiosyncracy of the package maintainer.
[17:28] <csilk> *throws
[17:28] <ay^> Exitialis: that sounds a bit bad :S
[17:29] <Marsjanin> Two exaples upcoming:
[17:29] <Marsjanin> 10 5 * * 1-6 DISPLAY=":0.0" amarok
[17:29] <Reformer81> I'm just curious if Ubuntu 8.10 has FINALLY fixed the sound issues (the crashing, the forced-reboots to get sound back, etc)?
[17:29] <chuckmoney> Twinkletoes|W: Not sure, but for example, on apache, there is both a "Listen" line and a "ServerName" line.  One is just used for identification while the Listen line actually restricts what Apache will listen on.  I don't use NIS so I'm not sure but you could try setting it to * and see if the server dies on reboot.
[17:29] <Marsjanin> 5,35 9-23 * * * DISPLAY=":0.0" wine 'C:\Program Files\WITaj!\Wit2000.exe' /jeden
[17:29] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, 10 5 * * 1-6 DISPLAY=":0 && amarok
[17:29] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68913/
[17:30] <TJ-42> I've heard that Ubuntu 8.10 has problems with nvidia drivers sometimes because of the change in how xorg.conf is used -- i.e. the proprietary nvidia linux drivers no longer work.  Is this accurate?
[17:30] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: With not closed doublequote and withoout a .0 part of identifier?
[17:30] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, 5,35 9-23 * * * DISPLAY=:0 && 'wine C:\Program Files\WITaj!\Wit2000.exe' /jeden
[17:30] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: That's the whole file?
[17:30] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, 10 5 * * 1-6 DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[17:31] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: In its entirety!
[17:31] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, as I 've just reposted it , both should work fine now
[17:31] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: you are missing some stuff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo
[17:31] <Pici> pyBry: It may have started from there, but it should have put a symlink to that script in /etc/rc2.d/ (most probably that runlevel)
[17:31] <Reformer81> Also, is it safe to do an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[17:31] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Checking now...
[17:31] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: I'll try thats in minutes, thanx; is that something changed? That above commands worked fine on Ubu 7.10 and 8.04.
[17:32] <Exitialis> right its an ASUS A7N266-VM, any ideas where id get drivers for tht?
[17:32] <Pici> Reformer81: As long as you read the release notes, sure.
[17:32] <bXi> is there some simple way to let a temporary mount (like some samba server) to become a standard one?
[17:32] <chuckmoney> TJ-42: Yes, somewhat.  I have a GeForce 8600 and to put it nicely it was quite the unpleasant experience getting up dual displays at a less-than-standard resolution (1440x900).  My best tip is to use the EnvyNG drivers and spend a lot of time staring at the Ubuntu Forums at 800x600.
[17:32] <erUSUL> Exitialis: linux/ubuntu comes with most driver built in
[17:32] <hubar> Reformer81: It worked for me, but of course it is much better if you are to be safe, backuped all your data..
[17:32] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,  I think 8.10 uses a new version of cron but I can't be sure
[17:32] <awakebyjava> okay
[17:32] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: This is the guide I followed - that's the only line it says to add to /etc/yp.conf.  And even with the real IP address makes no difference
[17:32] <awakebyjava> for some reason the install isnt detecting my cdrom, but i booted from the cdrom
[17:33] <Reformer81> Pici: Well, the release notes don't say anything other than where to find help lol
[17:33] <TJ-42> chuckmoney: hmm, that sounds... iffy.  I already had enough trouble getting my dual displays working in 8.04 with different resolutions for each monitor.  but thanks for the response
[17:33] <Exitialis> ErUSUL: yeah, but not for this :(
[17:33] <awakebyjava> any ideas?
[17:33] <erUSUL> Exitialis: what piece of hardware is not working?
[17:33] <Exitialis> it just displays the monitor as unknown
[17:33] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: To all intents and purposes it works - it all did earlier on this afternoon anyway, it's just that for some reason I'm now being challeneged for a root password when usingyppasswd
[17:34] <chuckmoney> TJ-42: If it makes any difference, it was working great with the proprietary drivers.  Then I decided to enable desktop effects and spent 3 days getting both working at once.  If you're happy without COmpiz it's no real problem.
[17:34] <Exitialis> not sure, basically it sAYS THe monitor is unknown and wont pout its resolution past 600x480
[17:34] <Pici> Reformer81: No, there are a few caveats in there: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:34] <graingert> Exitialis-> what is your graphics card?
[17:34] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: look in dmesg log. From a shell do "dmesg | less" to scroll through that.
[17:34] <Exitialis> its built into the motherboard
[17:34] <Reformer81> Pici: Ah.  I was reading the release notes from the Upgrade utility... go figure.
[17:34] <chuckmoney> TJ-42: Basically, Compiz and the proprietary drivers conflict, so you have to use Envy to get both.
[17:34] <robacarp> is there a way to install ubuntu-desktop to a server without getting all the junk I don't want? (openoffice, etc)
[17:35] <Exitialis> graingert: which is ASUS A7N266-VM tht
[17:35] <TJ-42> chuckmoney: Hmm ok, thanks
[17:35] <Reformer81> Besides, the only reason I really want to upgrade is hoping that the sound issues from 7.04 have finally been fixed instead of just worked around!
[17:35] <graingert> Exitialis-> asus do graphics cards?
[17:35] <Exitialis> its on the motherboard
[17:35] <Cyde> Is there a nice GUI app for editing fstab, like how gparted is a nice GUI app for fdisk?
[17:35] <Exitialis> on a side note they do ys
[17:35] <chuckmoney> robacarp: maybe if you use the alternate CD and select the ubuntu-minimal package instead of the default ubuntu-desktop package.  But usually an install step has to fail for it to manually let you select packages.
[17:35] <ardchoille> robacarp: you can install the desktop and then remove openoffice
[17:35] <erUSUL> Reformer81: i didn't have any sound problems in 7.04 you are doing a gross generalization... youre problems are not general
[17:35] <graingert> Exitialis-> who makes the onboard graphics?
[17:36] <awakebyjava> huh, and how does one do that?
[17:36] <awakebyjava> i mean get to a shell
[17:36] <Reformer81> erUSUL: Well, seeing how the forums are filled with complaints about my problems without any solutions, I'd say it isn't a "gross" generalization.
[17:36] <robacarp> chuckmoney: I already have ubuntu installed as a server, but I'd like to add gnome desktop so I can have a gui
[17:36] <awakebyjava> it has gone to a manual install list thing
[17:36] <chuckmoney> Cyde: beyond gedit, not that I know of.  maybe there's one in synaptic, but I doubt it.
[17:37] <BrickHaus> Got to Applications > Accessesories > Terminal
[17:37] <awakebyjava> oh wait, i got it
[17:37] <Exitialis> nvidia, give me a sec to check the chip
[17:37] <robacarp> ardchoille: thats just silly...can't I install just the parts I want?
[17:37] <awakebyjava> it is not installing at all, thats the problem
[17:37] <awakebyjava> i found a shell though
[17:37] <chuckmoney> robacarp: then just install gnome-desktop.  should install only gnome and not any of the prebundled ubuntu applications.  but since you installed from the server CD it might not.  I'm not sure.
[17:37] <ardchoille> Cyde: fstab is just a text file
[17:37] <Cyde> chuckmoney: Hrmm, that's too bad.
[17:37] <dfgas> YAY!!! got my sound fixed !!! stupid alsa
[17:37] <jimcooncat> robacarp: though I wouldn't install a gui on a server, you may be happy with xfce in place of gnome; sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[17:38] <Cyde> ardchoille: Yes, I'm aware of what fstab is.
[17:38] <aboSamoor> how can call files without writing the whole path instead of python ~/code/python/noise/bla.py i want to call them directly python bla.py ??
[17:38] <runpain2_> howd you do it dfgas
[17:38] <Cyde> ardchoille: But editing fstab, especially to add a new drive, requires lots of consultation with the man page to get the options right.
[17:38] <dfgas> runpain2_, i will get link
[17:38] <kbrandt> Can I do a direct upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10
[17:38] <PerSeL> i need help with skype anyone here?
[17:38] <dfgas> runpain2_, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-18522.html
[17:38] <Cyde> ardchoille: A nice GUI app would make it easier to edit, especially for the average desktop user.
[17:38] <graingert> kbrandt-> no you need to go vai 8.04
[17:38] <graingert> via*
[17:38] <squarebracket> i just updated to intrepid, now my wired network doesn't work
[17:38] <robacarp> jimcooncat: does the xubuntu-desktop package come with a bunch of junk-frills programs like the ubuntu-desktop package?
[17:38] <ardchoille> Cyde: you have a good point, perhaps file a new item in brainstorm
[17:39] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Rebooting server... just in case... I hate doing that
[17:39] <ardchoille> !brainstorm | Cyde
[17:39] <runpain2_> Thanks dfgas
[17:39] <erUSUL> Reformer81: you lnow people for wht things just work do not post in forums looking for help so if you are trying to do stadistics you should choose a different sample than people on forums... i've been here for 4 years and the only thing i see here is people with problems with ubuntu that fact have not make me think ubuntu is buggy (becouse it works for me)
[17:39] <scunizi> who
[17:39] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: looking in the log is your fist step in identifying problems. If there is one you should see it there. Right now you have nothing to work with. First look in the log to see if its even being detected.
[17:39] <dfgas> runpain2_, more than one thing couldn't use alsa so i only had sound on one thing. so now i have all my programs sounds working  :D
[17:39] <chuckmoney> Cyde: you might consider installing something like the automount or pmount package so drives will mount automatically and then you don't have to deal with permissions, etc.  as long as your boot drive is in fstab correctly then you can literally just plug-and-play that way.
[17:39] <chuckmoney> Cyde: I think 8.04 comes with one of them.  Not sure
[17:39] <runpain2_> Great deal i need to record sound
[17:39] <PerSeL> anyone here can help me with skype?
[17:40] <awakebyjava> okay, i get this "/bin/sh: less: not found"
[17:40] <chuckmoney> I seriously need to go get lunch but I will brb...this is fun :)
[17:40] <Cyde> chuckmoney: Well I just installed a new internal hard drive that I don't anticipate ever removing.  Fstab is definitely the most logical way to handle it.  I want to be able to depend on it always mounting to the same place, regardless of whether I have a, say, external hard drive attached.
[17:40] <Oprtz> i want to ask abt port forwarding to use ekiga application in ubuntu, how to forward the port in order to change symmeric NAT into Con NAT ?
[17:40] <awakebyjava> i already knew it wasnt being detected, but the install was booted from the disk in the drive, so that is confusing me
[17:40] <dulak> awakebyjava: sudo apt-get install less
[17:41] <ardchoille> Cyde: I just did that yesterday
[17:41] <awakebyjava> "/bin/sh: sudo: not found"
[17:41] <ardchoille> uh oh
[17:41] <kbrandt> graingert: Thank you for the info, probably better just to do a clean install.  Is there a way to force it if I am feeling like being a cowboy?
[17:41] <Reaper> I installed Kubuntu 8.10, and grub was not there? why? now that I removed it, I'm asking before re-installing again.was it because I clicked on skip? lol when it was searching for network timing or something?
[17:41] <Cyde> awakebyjava: What does "echo $SHELL" output?
[17:42] <kbrandt> graingert: Like edit the sources list?
[17:42] <ardchoille> Cyde: I used: /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       2
[17:42] <awakebyjava> i am installing from the alternate xubuntu cd
[17:42] <graingert> kbrandt-> yes not a good idea
[17:42] <Cyde> ardchoille: Is it unimaginative that all of my HD mount points are /a, /b, and /z ?
[17:42] <dulak> awakebyjava: I missed that you were booted off the install cd, my bad on that
[17:42] <awakebyjava> nothing
[17:42] <Cyde> awakebyjava: Ah, if you're still installing then you should be root already, so you won't need sudo.
[17:42] <awakebyjava> so apt-get less?
[17:42] <Skrot-> Hi. Is there a way to figure out which date a system was installed?
[17:42] <Cyde> ardchoille: Here's what I just used:   /dev/sdb1 /b auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[17:42] <dulak> awakebyjava: booted off the cd you can't install less
[17:42] <awakebyjava> okay
[17:42] <graingert> kbrandt-> if you want to keep your documetns you can get 8.10 to crush your existing partition into the minimum possible; then it will copy over settings if you let it
[17:43] <dulak> awakebyjava: you are stuck with more instead of less I think
[17:43] <jimcooncat> robacarp, yes it's got junk, but less junky junk. no openoffice -- it installs abiword and gnumeric instead
[17:43] <awakebyjava> right, i am booting off the cd for low memory systems
[17:43] <Cyde> That's kind of sad not even having less available :-(
[17:43] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: solved... for some reason I've inadvertantly set the root password!!!
[17:43] <Brucee> whats the command to type what version of ubuntu i have for server?
[17:43] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Is there a way to kind of randomize it again?
[17:43] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: oops
[17:43] <Brucee> cat version?
[17:43] <awakebyjava> trying to install xubuntu
[17:43] <awakebyjava> got through region and keyboard layout
[17:43] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: I found out by trying one of the passwords I'd chjanged to, as the root password - thanks to good memoery!
[17:44] <awakebyjava> stuck on trying to find the cdrom
[17:44] <BrickHaus> Skrot-: "uname -a" I believe should tell you
[17:44] <aboSamoor> how can I call files without writing the whole path instead of python ~/code/python/noise/bla.py i want to call them directly python bla.py ??
[17:44] <ardchoille> Cyde: ah, ok, well I just used the fstab entry for /dev/sda1 as a template for my /dev/sdb1
[17:44] <Cyde> ardchoille: I went through the whole man page and assembled all of the options that I felt were appropriate.
[17:44] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: you can lock it with: sudo passwd -l root
[17:44] <ardchoille> Cyde: good job
[17:44] <Cyde> ardchoille: Would've been a lot nicer to just have a GUI with a bunch of checkboxes for each option and a description of what it does.
[17:45] <spY|da> hello
[17:45] <Skrot-> BrickHaus: I think that's the date for when the kernel was built or something
[17:45] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Ok, thanks ;)
[17:45] <ardchoille> Cyde: you should brainstorm that idea, it's nice
[17:45] <Cyde> ardchoille: Well, I've been editing fstab since Red Hat 6, so it's not exactly foreign to me, but I figured there'd be a GUI by now.
[17:45] <randomaction> Brucee: uname -a
[17:45] <Reaper> Cyde? please can you help - I installed Kubuntu 8.10 I assume, and when I restarted, Grub was not there?.( and why I assume? because I clicked on Skip button when I had the option to when it was searching for network timing, something like that )
[17:45] <robacarp> Brucee: cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:45] <BrickHaus> Skrot: hangon
[17:45] <eric_> #join ubuntu-fr
[17:45] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: yppasswd still wants root password tho :(
[17:45] <novato_br> how to shutdown X server graphic
[17:45] <novato_br> ?
[17:45] <ardchoille> Brucee: lsb_release -a
[17:46] <Cyde> Reaper: So the system doesn't boot?
[17:46] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: did you update the yp databases after you locked root?
[17:46] <awakebyjava> i do get a list of stuff when i type in dmesg into the terminal
[17:46] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: DUH!
[17:46] <Reaper> Cyde, I'm directly booted to Xp.
[17:46] <erUSUL> novato_br: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:46] <kbrandt> graingert: Okay, I think I will get just go via 8.04.  I am not too woried about data loss because it is just my 'tv' computer
[17:46] <PerSeL> i have problem with audio card?
[17:46] <awakebyjava> though now i have no idea how to get into the installer again
[17:46] <eric_> salut
[17:46] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Nopes, no effect
[17:46] <graingert> kbrandt-> may as well blat it
[17:46] <kbrandt> graingert: But ibex supports my capture card well I think
[17:46] <eric_> comment va,
[17:46] <Reaper> Cyde, btw I installed using the most continous space option.
[17:46] <Cyde> Reaper: Sounds like you'll have to boot off a Live CD to install Grub.
[17:46] <wardlooockx> hello when I boot up I have an very annoying load sound -> get an error of libdrm, I don't need it because i use fglrx...... how can I remove that module ????????
[17:46] <PerSeL> i think it's not that supported by ubuntu
[17:46] <graingert> kbrandt-> try out the live cd
[17:46] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Is it actually the system account its looking for , or a NIS root account somehow?
[17:46] <novato_br> thx, ESUL
[17:47] <sysdoc> hey guys when I run /usr/bin$ sudo vmware-config.pl it get this error: sh: /etc/init.d/vmware: not found. There is no script in init.d/, Can I copy it to that location, and if so how would I accomplish this?
[17:47] <eric_> #ubuntu-fr
[17:47] <Reaper> Cyde, yeah I have the LIVE CD, actually it's there where I installed Kubuntu from.
[17:47] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: not sure what to do there, locking root should have reset it to be just like it was
[17:47] <PerSeL> anyone can help me with audio settings?
[17:47] <Cyde> Reaper: man grub-install
[17:47] <kbrandt> graingert: Know if you can do a cd upgrade remotely by using X ssh tunnel?
[17:47] <Reaper> Cyde, My concern is that the installation option wasn't the mistake?
[17:47] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: SOmething's happened, or I've done sometihng to now require yppasswd to ask for a root password
[17:47] <graingert> kbrandt-> you can do anything with a remote ssh X server
[17:47] <Cyde> Reaper: What, the network something or other?  you can always fix the configuration on that late.r
[17:47] <Exitialis> hmm think imight hv aproblem, the asus site has no drivers for it for linux
[17:48] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: yes and locking root's password should have fixed it, afaik
[17:48] <rajkumar> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[17:48] <Cyde> Reaper: And when editing your new grub.conf, don't forget to include the listings so it'll dual-boot Windows XP.
[17:48] <wangjihu> helllo
[17:48] <eric> arfkdkd
[17:48] <eric> hello
[17:48] <Reaper> Cyde, no, I meant the " Most continous space " option...when you come tot he partitions
[17:48] <rajkumar> hiiiiiiiii to all
[17:48] <randomaction> eric_: try "/join ubuntu-fr" :)
[17:48] <Peter_Swinkels> Hello - Does any one know how I can prevent a user in a "guest session" (I'm using Ubuntu 8.10) from accessing for example, my Windows partitions?
[17:48] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: check root in /etc/shadow on the server, see if the first character of the second field is a !
[17:48] <scunizi> sysdoc: sudo ./<and the rest>
[17:48] <Guest71718> I want to go in à french tchat
[17:48] <awakebyjava> heh
[17:48] <wangjihu> 我是中国人，各位多指教
[17:48] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Yes it is
[17:48] <awakebyjava> typed exit and it exited
[17:48] <Cyde> Reaper: Sorry, I don't know what "Most continuous space" means.  Is that a disk partitioning option?
[17:48] <erUSUL> !fr | Guest71718
[17:49] <Ximal> Can any op here help me with an issue that comes with an untimely find that someone has used some kind of logger or rootkit to get my private information...  I need to figure out how to scan for the kit or trojan or possible "virus" ?
[17:49] <erUSUL> !cn | wangjihu
[17:49] <awakebyjava> forgot how much i like linux
[17:49] <Sylphid|work> is it possible to rate limit bandwidth on a network interface without tc?
[17:49] <Guest71718> #ubuntu-fr
[17:49] <erUSUL> !info trickle | Sylphid|work
[17:49] <Reaper> Cyde, when you are installing you have several options, like Guided disk, or manual...and I remember it was the most continous disk space. where you have a free space on your HD, not partitioned, and Kubuntu automatically installs on.
[17:49] <kevor> hi there, just installed 8.10, but my Location menu items are opened with nautilus-cd-burner....
[17:49] <scunizi> Guest71718: do a "/j #ubuntu-fr"
[17:49] <ardchoille> Ximal: there are two good rootkit scanners in the reops: rkhunter  and  chkrootkit
[17:50] <kbrandt> graingert: Okay, thank you for your help!
[17:50] <Cyde> ardchoille: Ooooh, look what I found:  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/323/
[17:50] <Flannel> Ximal: Also, use a liveCD
[17:50] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, unfortunately i dont believe that will work for me
[17:50] <hulp> Hi guys, how can I run a comand on the desktop, something like root-tail does with a file. What I want to do is to run top.
[17:50] <hulp> any program that can do that?
[17:50] <erUSUL> Sylphid|work: why
[17:50] <Cyde> So there is a GUI for editing fstab called disk-manager (available from apt), but it doesn't come in the default install.
[17:50] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, as i dont have the option to install additional packages
[17:50] <DIFH-iceroot> hulp: can do what?
[17:51] <robacarp> hulp: you can run top from a terminal window on the desktop
[17:51] <awakebyjava> so, any ideas?
[17:51] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: not sure what to do to fix it
[17:51] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Ok, thanks for your help though ;)
[17:51] <Cyde> hulp: xtail maybe?
[17:51] <ardchoille> Cyde: nice find!
[17:51] <hulp> robacarp, I want something like root-tail or root-portal
[17:51] <BrickHaus> Skrot-: srry.. not sure how you do that on Ubuntu.. On Gentoo I can tell but not on ubuntu. Maybe else has an idea of how that date could be closed in on.. let me know if you find out..
[17:51] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, is it possible to set a hard limit with iptables.... not limiting packets/s but bits/s
[17:51] <Cyde> ardchoille: If you have a Brainstorm account, please vote it up.
[17:51] <Skrot-> BrickHaus: okay :)
[17:51] <ironmedic> hi guys, i tried to install open office on intrepid and it would not install.  then i get the "failed to initialize hal" on x-server restart
[17:52] <erUSUL> Sylphid|work: dunno
[17:52] <hardwired> how can I remove a package with apt-get when it is in status "rc" ?
[17:52] <prince_jammys> hardwired: purge
[17:52] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, or something in the general interface config
[17:52] <hulp> Cyde, xtail will read a file, what I want to do is to run a command
[17:53] <prince_jammys> hardwired: apt-get --purge  or apt-get purge (i don't remember which) OR: aptitude purge
[17:53] <robacarp> hardwired: apt-get purge
[17:53] <hardwired> prince_jammys: nope, that only works before they get into the status of "rc"
[17:53] <_PeskyJ> what is device sr0? I just built a new PC and put in the ubuntu disc and it's saying I/O errors on sr0
[17:53] <prince_jammys> hardwired: aptitude will purge them.
[17:53] <awakebyjava> right now i am on ubuntu installer main menu
[17:53] <sysdoc> scunizi, same result
[17:53] <kevor> my Location menu items are opened with "nautilus-cd-burner --iso=/home/location", anyone know how I can change this?
[17:54] <ironmedic> does anyone have experience with installing open office on intrepid and it does not install?
[17:54] <ardchoille> Cyde: will do
[17:54] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: an optical drive dvd/cdrom
[17:54] <hardwired> prince_jammys: ah cool,m yes, aptitude works
[17:54] <PerSeL> who can help me with audio settings?
[17:54] <sysdoc> scunizi, /etc/init.d/vmware does not exist
[17:54] <prince_jammys> hardwired: i'm surprised apt-get didn't.
[17:54] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: well that's odd
[17:55] <jgonick> Exitialis: have you tried to reconfigure the x-server?
[17:55] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: what's odd?
[17:55] <_PeskyJ> I have an athlon 64 x2 6000+ - I am using the amd64 version, is that correct?
[17:55] <ardchoille> Cyde: voted :) Thanks for the info
[17:55] <ironmedic> i tried to download open office through the add/remove programs and it will not install on intrepid
[17:55] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: in your dmesg log you will see something about a CD rom. If you don't then you need to make sure the power and IDE cables are snuggly in place inside your mobo.. Unless it's a laptop. But you will see something about a CDrom in that log if it's detected. If it's not detected then it's a ide/power connectivity issue. If it is detected then you'll see it with possibly error message associated with it.
[17:56] <BrickHaus> woops.. srry
[17:56] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: odd that it was booting from the CD then started with errors
[17:56] <BrickHaus> didn't mean to flood that
[17:56] <erUSUL> ironmedic: oo.org is installed by default
[17:56] <ironmedic> i have xubuntu and it is not installed
[17:56] <gryfone> salve c'è qualcuno che parla italiano per cortesia?
[17:56] <erUSUL> !it | gryfone
[17:57] <gryfone> thanks
[17:57] <Exitialis> jgonick: whats the x-server?
[17:57] <ironmedic> the guy who hits the ball back to you in tennis
[17:57] <ironmedic> :)
[17:57] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: I have to go. If you find something let whom ever is helping you that you indeed verified in dmesg that your cd is dected. cya
[17:57] <Pe1o> Exitialis, x is the programe that manages displays
[17:58] <Exitialis> Pelo: how do i reconfigure it?
[17:58] <erUSUL> Exitialis: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[17:58] <Pe1o> Exitialis,  what erUSUL said
[17:59] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: you also need to preface your responses with the persons name who's helping you so they can easily identify the message if for them and not 1 of th 1500 others in this room
[17:59] <Exitialis> eh? first time linux user here, whats tht do and where do i type it? :S
[17:59] <erUSUL> !terminal | Exitialis
[17:59] <Exitialis> thanks :)
[17:59] <BrickHaus> Exitialis: tht ? Where are you seeing that?
[17:59] <awakebyjava> brickhaus: right, thanks. there is nothing about cdrom in the logs.
[17:59] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: do you think it's a hardware issue or dodgy disc?
[17:59] <jgonick> Exitialis:  check your ect/x11/xorg.conf file and see what it says.  This is where your monitor and video driver info is.
[18:00] <scunizi> sysdoc: what are you trying to do with vmware.. start it? install it? recompile it for your kernel?
[18:00] <c4_lmmx> hi
[18:00] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: well i can not see the disc surface from here my crystal ball is broken ;P. Seriously can be the disc; th drive or even a kernel bug concerning the sata/ide chip. hard to tell
[18:01] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: then I suspect that either your IDE cable is inserted into the back of the cdrom incorrectly or it isn't connect firmly to the Motherboard. Either that or the power cable is bad or isn't connected firmly to the back of the cdrom.
[18:01] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: isn't inserted*
[18:01] <Ximal> well i can't can flannel or someone else here tell me what this means >? http://pastebin.com/m7b09b078
[18:01] <sysdoc> scunizi, I just installed it and am trying to configure it now
[18:01] <awakebyjava> Brickhaus: but if that were the case, then how could the cdrom read the install disk?
[18:01] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: never mind.. I said it right the first time
[18:01] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: Nope, I think that's not a reason. Or I can't catch some detail? I just tried as that:
[18:02] <sysdoc> scunizi, but the /etc/init.d/vmware is missing
[18:02] <ardchoille> Ximal: those are normal with rkhunter
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 57 18 * * * DISPLAY=":0.0" && audacious
[18:02] <hans_> Yes, it runs! Thanks for your help!
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 58 18 * * * DISPLAY=":0" && gedit
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 59 18 * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 && galculator
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 00 19 * * * DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[18:02] <FloodBot3> Marsjanin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <scunizi> sysdoc: sorry I gotta go.. check #vmware for more info.. it should be started already.. and available on the Applications menu
[18:02] <Exitialis> jgonick: theres no river information there :S
[18:02] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: from a terminal do "dmesg | grep -i cdrom" without the quotes. Tell me what you get back
[18:02] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, do any of those work ?
[18:02] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: No. If it did, I'll say that :)
[18:03] <Ximal> what is dev shm ? ardchoille ?
[18:03] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: I will try the i386 disc I burned yesterday for a different machine
[18:03] <sysdoc> scunizi, ok but none of the above are true, l8r
[18:03] <Marsjanin> There's 19:09 NOW on my machine.
[18:03] <Marsjanin> :03 X)
[18:03] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, the only one I see in there that is written properly is the amarok one ,  the others have " where they shoudln't
[18:03] <gavagai> if i want to dual boot with windows, and share a data partition, should i make it FAT or NTFS/
[18:03] <gavagai> ?
[18:03] <awakebyjava> Brickhaus: nothing
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:03] <trekdanne> gavagai, probably ntfs
[18:03] <sysdoc> !repos
[18:03] <ardchoille> Ximal: not sure, but I run rkhunter and chkrootkit on every install before doing anything else and I see those that you posted
[18:04] <dulak> gavagai: ntfs if you have a windows install to boot to for chkdsk, vfat if not
[18:04] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: ok; good luck
[18:04] <Ximal> ok
[18:04] <Ximal> ty
[18:04] <gavagai> trekdanne, so writing to ntfs from linux is foolproof?
[18:04] <gavagai> dulak, i am confused, if i didn't have a windows install why would i use vfat?
[18:05] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: Yup, I just tried out what I can though about it. And that worked with dquotes previously. WHatever, it didn't do the trick for amarok neither.
[18:05] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava:  dmesg | grep -i cd-rom
[18:05] <dulak> gavagai: yeah I thought about that after I hit enter, it was retarded
[18:05] <gavagai> lol
[18:05] <dulak> gavagai: it sounded better in my head
[18:05] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, let me try it out , and get back to you
[18:05] <awakebyjava> ooh
[18:05] <gavagai> but anyway ntfs is 100% ok and safe it sounds like.  i haven't dual booted in like 5 years and back then it was different
[18:06] <Owner> i need some help can someone talk to me
[18:06] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: thanks a lot
[18:06] <shane2peru> where/when can I get the next ubuntu release?
[18:06] <awakebyjava> Brickhaus: whole bunch of info about my drive
[18:06] <jgonick> Exitialis: I would try to reconfigure just to see. ﻿what erUSUL said ﻿sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:06] <shane2peru> the J one. :)
[18:06] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: heh.. good..
[18:06] <j2daosh> whats up all. so, i got a problem that i dont think any of you will be able to help me with but what the hell. ill ask anyway :P. I have the acer aspire netbook and it only supports a 1024X768 window, but since its a 9" x 5" screen, i cant fit an entire window on the screen for amarok. Is there some way i can force windows to resize to the size of the desktop?
[18:06] <Marsjanin> shane2peru: Next? You mean 9.04?
[18:06] <shane2peru> Marsjanin: right
[18:06] <shane2peru> 9.04
[18:06] <Owner> hello can i get some help from someone
[18:06] <andrei_> i need some help with an audio card. can anyone please help me?
[18:06] <ikonia> shane2peru: it's not made yet
[18:06] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: sorry.. I do need to go. I'll be back in an hour.. use paste bin to paste info to
[18:07] <shane2peru> ikonia: ok, when does dev start?
[18:07] <shane2peru> or alpha release
[18:07] <DracNoc> Owner, if you need to ask something, then just ask. :)
[18:07] <ikonia> shane2peru: a long time
[18:07] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: some will be able to help, I'm confident of that.
[18:07] <shane2peru> ikonia: they only have 6 months. :)
[18:07] <ikonia> shane2peru: so ?
[18:07] <shane2peru> brb
[18:07] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: if not I will help you when I get back. cya
[18:07] <faria> hello
[18:08] <Marsjanin> shane2peru: The I. I. evolve. :)
[18:08] <faria> can i run any erp software on ubuntu
[18:08] <shane2peru> ikonia: that isn't long time so alpha should be coming out. :)
[18:08] <chuckmoney> gavagai: you might also consider ext2 as an option.  There's a driver available for windows now that has full read/write access to ext2/ext3 linux partitions.  It won't have the same granular permissions that ntfs will, but a LOT of forensics tools (for pulling data off a HDD, i.e. what a hacker or the NSA would use) don't work with ext2/ext3, so you have a higher base level of security that way.
[18:08] <Owner> i just loded ubuntu on the same drive as windows xp...... it would load straight into XP.... i fixed the MBR through the live cd... and now it wont load to windows XP.... when i fix windows MBR it wont load to ubuntu..... can someone help pls
[18:08] <hardwired> for the record: installing nvidia-glx server works like a breeze if you use envyng
[18:08] <ikonia> shane2peru: don't worry about development releases - if you where serious you'd be on the developer mailing list or following development
[18:08] <chuckmoney> gavagai: but only for a data drive.  windows itself should still be on NTFS.
[18:08] <hardwired> I had nothing but trouble installing it without envyng
[18:08] <Exitialis> jgonick: it says this: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[18:08] <Exitialis>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20081107180043
[18:09] <Exitialis> is tht good?
[18:09] <ardchoille> Exitialis: yes, it made a backup in case anything goes wrong, it's a good thing
[18:09] <faria> can i run any business accountung software on ubuntu ??
[18:09] <ikonia> faria does the software have a linux install ?
[18:09] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,  this line works 9 * * * *  export DISPLAY=:0 && rhythmbox  , just change the command at the end for the prog you need
[18:10] <joaopinto> faria, if the software is know to work on Ubuntu, yes :P
[18:10] <faria> ikonia i am asking u
[18:10] <bazhang> !info gnucash
[18:10] <ikonia> faria what software do you want to use /
[18:10] <faria> can u name the software
[18:10] <Exitialis> so do i need to do anything else?
[18:10] <gammy> Silly question: I'm hacking on the ov511 module and I wonder how I can get hold of the kernel configuration (.config) for my currently running (uncustomized) kernel. Where can I get it?
[18:10] <ikonia> faria bazhang gave you a good example
[18:10] <chuckmoney> faria: You might consider Gnucash, though GNUCash is closer to quicken than quickbooks, i.e. more single-person than business.
[18:10] <andrei_> i have a hda_intel integrated audio card (ALC883). when I do a test (System->Preferences->Sound) it looks that everything is ok, but i can't hear nothing... the volumes are at maximum. what could be the problem?
[18:10] <ardchoille> faria: open a terminal and run: apt-cache search accounting
[18:10] <ikonia> gammy: the config is in your boot directory
[18:11] <faria> i need a software with whom i can handle my business acounts and warehouse stockes
[18:11] <Owner> hello andy help here
[18:11] <Owner> any
[18:11] <ikonia> gammy: but I fail to see how the kernel .config file will help you hack on a module, as the .config file has nothing to do with the code
[18:11] <ikonia> Owner: what is the problem
[18:11] <Owner> i just loded ubuntu on the same drive as windows xp...... it would load straight into XP.... i fixed the MBR through the live cd... and now it wont load to windows XP.... when i fix windows MBR it wont load to ubuntu..... can someone help pls
[18:11] <sysdoc> what is the multiverse repo for Intrepid?
[18:11] <Guest44111> I've been using Ubuntu for a while now (~2 years), but have always found that if a dialogue box/window is greyed out, then becomes active again, mouse clicks aren't registered - I have to move the mouse, then click.  Does anyone else have the same problem?
[18:11] <ikonia> Owner you need to give us the error
[18:11] <gammy> ikonia: Sweet, thanks
[18:11] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: 'export'. I just try it out.
[18:12] <jgonick> Exitialis: It makes a backup file.  xorg.conf.20081107.... so if it messes up you can replace the xorg.conf file with the backup.. it would put it back like it was before you reconfigured.
[18:12] <joaopinto> !repositories | sysdoc
[18:12] <kara> #CAcert
[18:12] <gavagai> chuckmoney, thanks!
[18:12] <erUSUL> gammy: if you build th ekernel yourself you must have it in the kernel source directory
[18:12] <Owner> ntrl cant load press cnrtl at del to restart
[18:12] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: same problem, so it must be a hardware or driver issue
[18:12] <ikonia> Owner: the most common cause for that is you didn't chkdsk your windows parttiion before installing ubuntu
[18:12] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, sorry, I should have noticed earlier,  bit busy here
[18:12] <Owner> yeah i didnt so what do ido now
[18:13] <ikonia> Owner: you'll need to repair windows with a windows install cd
[18:13] <Owner> and then would it be ok
[18:13] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: yes; but that information does not solve the problem... :/
[18:13] <jgonick> Exitialis: need to reboot x-server.  Just reboot your computer..
[18:13] <ikonia> Owner: I would hope so
[18:13] <Owner> lol
[18:13] <khaotik> does anyone know why when i loaded intrepid i no longer have a wlan0 only a eth0 and eth1?
[18:13] <awakebyjava> Okay, so Brickhaus was trying to help me. How can i make this cdrom show up for install? Anyone?
[18:13] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: any way to diagnose it? is there a safe terminal sor something to try and figure it out?
[18:13] <ikonia> khaotik: udev rules changed proably
[18:13] <andrei_> ikonia: do you have a moment?
[18:13] <Owner> if i reinstall windows in the same partition again would it be better
[18:13] <ikonia> andrei_: what's up ?
[18:13] <ikonia> Owner: repair - not re-install
[18:13] <khaotik> this does not allow me to use the iwlist scan
[18:13] <andrei_> i need a little help
[18:14] <ikonia> andrei_: explain the problem
[18:14] <andrei_> i told you on private
[18:14] <ikonia> khaotik: what card do you have
[18:14] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: are you using the livecd?
[18:14] <khaotik> broadcom 43xx
[18:14] <chuckmoney> jgonick: Just in case you didn't know he could do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (I figure you're trying to make it simple for him but that will restart just x, a bit faster.)
[18:14] <ikonia> andrei_: tell me in here, I don't have pm's enabled
[18:14] <andrei_> ikonia: i have a hda_intel integrated audio card (ALC883). when I do a test (System->Preferences->Sound) it looks that everything is ok, but i can't hear nothing... the volumes are at maximum. what could be the problem?
[18:14] <Owner> ok before that can i use a GUI based loader program in ubuntu to load both windows and ubuntu...any third party prograns
[18:14] <awakebyjava> i need to get the info about my cdrom into somewhere?
[18:14] <ikonia> !sound > andrei_
[18:15] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: the install cd.. tried to install and tried to "TRY WITHOUT MAKING CHANGES" SAME PROBLEM
[18:15] <ikonia> andrei_: work through the troubleshooting link ubottu sent you
[18:15] <jgonick> Chuckmoney: you are correct...
[18:15] <pw-toxic> hi - i have just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my raid1 beside windows... after successfully installing it, i rebootet, but windows starts without asking me which operating system i want to use
[18:15] <khaotik>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[18:15] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: My fault. I though You wrote the "export" cmd to do some seek (like grep e.g.). I don't know all the unix commands well. :)
[18:16] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: you do not get to a working system? then there nothing you can do... maybe trying with the hardy install and then upgrade ? it will take more time but...
[18:16] <ikonia> khaotik doesn't that need a closed source driver ?
[18:16] <pw-toxic> any suggestions?
[18:16] <erUSUL> andrei_: what program fails?
[18:16] <Guest44111> pwtoxic: google grub
[18:16] <Guest44111> !grub | pwtoxic
[18:16] <chuckmoney> andrei_: do what ikonia said and use the troubleshooter but if that fails and/or it isn't in the troubleshooter try turning up the volume for "PCM" as well as the master volume.  May not work but give it a shot, and don't forget to try things around 50% so if it works you don't bust them.
[18:17] <Owner> he is having the same problem as i am
[18:17] <GullibleJones> Hello
[18:17] <khaotik> yes it does. amazingly it found and installed the correct one that i needed without me having to modify it.
[18:17] <uman> Hi there. I currently use ubuntu 8.04 and wanted to upgrade to 8.10. I have the alternate cd iso mounted but wanted to know if i would lose all my 3rd party installed apps like converstation, filezilla, amsn,etc when upgrading. Thanks
[18:17] <GullibleJones> I've got a problem doing a minimal install of Intrepid
[18:17] <Owner> i restrore grub and then it wont load windows
[18:17] <rockstar92> umm not to ad to the unorganized chatter but why does linux have a hard time connecting to a passworded network or a local one
[18:17] <GullibleJones> The install aborts because base-passwd won't install, it says "permission denied"
[18:17] <GullibleJones> How do I force the install?
[18:17] <sysdoc> Ok did vmware not make it to the Intrepid repos?
[18:17] <ikonia> Owner: I didn't say restore grub - I said you need to repair the windows install
[18:18] <bobbiem> can anyone help me? i am trying to install java for ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I have tried to follow the help, but still nothing!
[18:18] <Guest44111> uman: Do you have a separate partition for /home?
[18:18] <erUSUL> Owner: it fails to load it or simply lacks an entry to load it?
[18:18] <uman> guest4411, i do indeed
[18:18] <pw-toxic> uman: i have done what you did and my filezilla still works
[18:18] <chuckmoney> Owner: then after you restore grub add windows back to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:18] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: I get to the option menu (1. try ubuntu, 2. install, 3. check CD for defects, etc.) then if I pick anything that tries to load ubuntu it comes with the error
[18:18] <Owner> how do i do that chukmoney
[18:19] <joaopinto> uman, if those apps were installed from the repositories they should upgrade just fine
[18:19] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: i see... the error prevents ubuntu for loading properly so there is no terminal or anything aviable yet
[18:19] <chuckmoney> Owner: edit it with a text editor.  use something like gedit or nano.  but be VERY CAREFUL if you're not comfortable with it, else you will lose grub and have to restore it again.
[18:19] <andrei_> erUSUL: i'm making a test in System->Preferences->Sound and at Sound Playback I select ALC883 Analog and then I hit Test. it apeares another window and a progress bar goes from one side to the other (so I don't get no error) but I hear no sound
[18:19] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: well whatever minimal system is in place to display the menu at least
[18:19] <Marsjanin> 17 19 * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && amarok ─ and I'm afraid SOA#1, Pe1o. Also tried with doublequotes and .0 ...
[18:20] <chuckmoney> Owner: also, as erUSUL would tell you, if you have windows listed on the boot menu, your problem is most likely not in menu.lst.
[18:20] <sysdoc> Has anyone found vmware in the repos/
[18:20] <rockstar92> my compy cant connect to a wireless network that is passworded, and yes i know the password... can i change that?
[18:20] <bobbiem> can someone please tell me how to install java for ubuntu 6.06
[18:20] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, ????
[18:20] <chuckmoney> Owner: editing menu.lst will only help if it's not listed there
[18:20] <maxxist_> sysdoc  you should really give virtualbox a try its awesome.
[18:20] <andrei_> in alsa-mixer all volumes are at maximum
[18:21] <Owner> its listed in menu.lst i checked
[18:21] <erUSUL> andrei_: oops i thought you hear the test but other apps failed...
[18:21] <andrei_> no :(
[18:21] <sysdoc> maxxist_, does it freaking work?? lol
[18:21] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,  copy/paste exactly                         25 * * * *  export DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[18:21] <rockstar92> ummm... about that wireless...
[18:21] <Marsjanin> Whops. SAA#1? "Standard Admin's Answer no. 1: That works fine for me".
[18:21] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: in the multiverse repos there is a free vmware player.  it will run existing vmwares but won't let you make new ones.  vmware doesn't release a .deb package for ubuntu so you'll have to compile one from their source.  and pay for it, of course.
[18:22] <Owner> is there is thrird party loader i can use in ubuntu
[18:22] <j2daosh> anyone know how to force windows sizes?
[18:22]  * Marsjanin copies
[18:22] <maxxist_> sysdoc it works really really well.  if you goto virtualbox.org and get the 2.04 .deb   I have been using it since 2.0  and have had no problems.
[18:22] <graingert> sysdoc-> you should use virtualbox
[18:22] <genii> bobbiem: Sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[18:22] <RickZilla> Answering my own question from earlier:  If you want to use a Wacom tablet with ubuntu, check this out:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[18:22] <FFForever> how do i install ath5k module in ubuntu 8.04?
[18:22] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: it displays the progress bar, then gets as far as BusyBox built in shell (ash) then it says (initramfs) [ <numbers> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector <numbers> repeatedly
[18:22] <graingert> sysdoc-> get the virtualbox repository then it will auto update
[18:22] <rockstar92> should i even bother with my question?...
[18:22] <andrei_> erUSUL: can u help me please? i really don't know what to do anymore...
[18:23] <FFForever> someone anyone?
[18:23] <genii> bobbiem: Use Tab key to change fileds when it asks about license agreement, Enter to selct "OK" or so
[18:23] <pw-toxic> anyone experience in installing ubuntu with raid1?
[18:23] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: well the initramfs shell has some commands but i do not think there is somthing we can do from it to debug the issue
[18:23] <ardchoille> rockstar92: it won't get answered unless you ask :)
[18:23] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: maxxist_ is correct also.  virtualbox is really good too.  If you need to import an existing vmware machine from another computer use the free vmware player from the multiverse repo, else, use virtualbox
[18:23] <maxxist_> sysdoc in fact I am right now using xchat under xubuntu in ubuntu
[18:23] <tsop> Anyone would happen to know a fix for my keyboard? It suddenly stopped working, I've tried rebooting a few times now, its odd that at the KDM window it will work, but as soon as I'm /in/ the keyboard doesn't work at all.
[18:23] <Slart> pw-toxic: I haven't done it myself but I've seen quite a few tutorials on the net
[18:23] <jgonick> sysdoc: there is a free version of vmware server out there.. I switched to virtualbox..seems easier to me..
[18:23] <bobbiem> genii, i tried that and it said command not found
[18:23] <Slart> pw-toxic: have you checked the alternate install cd? it might have some nice functionality for it
[18:24] <kara> #CAcert
[18:24] <graingert> !info virtualbox-ose | sysdoc
[18:24] <pw-toxic> Slart: do you know if it has anything to do with the raid1 that ubuntu doesnt appear in the OS boot menu?
[18:24]  * Marsjanin waits for :25
[18:24] <chuckmoney> FFForever: not sure.  if it's in the repos just use apt-get or synaptic.  otherwise, do apt-get build-essential and compile it from source.
[18:24] <genii> bobbiem: Give exact error please
[18:24] <Exitialis> jgonick: so how do i reconfigure this file? theres no mention of resolutions or anything technical in it :S
[18:24] <kara> #CAcert
[18:24] <Slart> pw-toxic: you mean grub? or some other os boot menu?
[18:24] <rockstar92> tsop: if im not mistaken there is a couple buttons you can press that lock your key board try looking for those
[18:24] <pw-toxic> Slart: i have just isntalled ubuntu with selecting the hard drive myself... 30GB for "/" and   4GB swap
[18:25] <pw-toxic> Slart:  no i mean there isnt any boot menu
[18:25] <joaopinto> FFEMTcJ, the ath5k driver is available from the linux*backports* package
[18:25] <erUSUL> PeskyJ: but if the cdrom works in that other OS it may be a kernel bug. if that's th case you may want to try installing hardy instead of intrepid and upgrade
[18:25] <PeskyJ> erUSUL: does that mean the sr0 device is the ramfs device?
[18:25] <PerSeL> how can i change colors?
[18:25] <rcahilig> Hi, I have a Ubuntu 8.04 firewall/gateway server for our LAN. The server has a layer7, ipp2p and tinyproxy installed. Since I only have 512kbit bandwidth, I want to shape the traffic using tc/htb. What I want to do is to prioritize and give http a highier bandwidth (384) and give the remaining bandwidth to other application such as p2p or ftp. I am new to tc/htb, please help me how to write script for this. Thanks
[18:25] <kara> #cacert
[18:25] <pw-toxic> Slart: windows just starts without asking me which one i want to boot
[18:25] <PerSeL> i found how do i change resolution
[18:25] <rand0m> hrmm.. all video (whether an avi file played in VLC media player) or flash videos.. any video plays really choppy and the audio is skipping and everything is very very slow... im assuming it's myd rivers
[18:25] <PerSeL> but not colors
[18:25]  * Marsjanin HAS GOT amarok installed :]
[18:25] <rand0m> but how do I fix it?
[18:25] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, multiverse repo I'm not seeing that repo for Intrepid
[18:25] <pw-toxic> Slart: but now i think ubuntu just doesnt know where my windows was installed...
[18:25] <Slart> pw-toxic: hmm.. are you sure the install finished? you didn't chose not to install grub?
[18:25] <genii> bobbiem: Also, multiverse repository needs to be enabled ahead of this if not already
[18:26] <erUSUL> PeskyJ: no as i said /dev/sr0 is the cdrom drive (modern kernels see all ide sata usb etc as scsi drives hence the device name)
[18:26] <pw-toxic> Slart: well i wasnt asked anything about grub
[18:26] <sysdoc> jgonick, I just installed vmware 2.0 from the vmware site
[18:26] <maxxist_> sysdoc just grab the deb from virtualbox.org  it is well tested with ubuntu
[18:26] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: may not be one for intrepid yet.  packages in multiverse are packages released without any available source code, almost always from companies.  unless vmware has made a deb for inptepid yet, there won't be one.
[18:26] <PeskyJ> erUSUL: ahh ok.
[18:26] <Some_ux> I need a bit of help with the Ubuntu packaging system. I found that the Hardy Heron xl2tp package has a show stopping bug. The solution is to recompile the source for that package using a modified Makefile. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do that. Any useful guides out there ?
[18:26] <acke> hey, are there any config files for boot camp? to be used when boot camp no longer recognizes the drives on my mac.. .P
[18:26] <DjVMint> hey there, anyone got skills with pulseaudio?
[18:26] <jgonick> Exitialis: In you menu there is screen resolution.  Have you checked to see if it added more resolutions?
[18:27] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, yea I had to alien the rpm package from their site
[18:27] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: Huh, that not works at all. :( All the command like wget works.
[18:27] <PeskyJ> erUSUL: I guess I'll have to try a different OS to see if it's a kernel/driver issue... I could try knoppix
[18:27] <Marsjanin> SO, the cron is running.
[18:27] <andrei_> i'm making a test in System->Preferences->Sound and at Sound Playback I select ALC883 Analog and then I hit Test. it apeares another window and a progress bar goes from one side to the other (so I don't get no error) but I hear no sound
[18:27] <Exitialis> jgonick: nope stillmaxing out at 800x640
[18:27] <erUSUL> PeskyJ: yep or another ubuntu version
[18:27] <Slart> pw-toxic: hmm.. I don't install ubuntu enough it seems =) usually it installs grub, puts ubuntu and windows in the grub boot up menu and lets you choose when you boot.. I doubt having raid1 would stop this from working but I can't say I'm sure
[18:27] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, pastebin your crontab for me please
[18:27] <sysdoc> maxxist_, will vbmount and run an install of xp on another partition?
[18:27] <z0d14k> Is there a way to do authenticated podcasts in rhythmbox?
[18:27] <Pe1o> !pastebin | Marsjanin
[18:27] <PerSeL> hello how do i change colors in ubuntu to 1024X768 32bit
[18:27] <pw-toxic> Slart: yes i know.. i have done this once with my notebook and everything worked
[18:28] <chuckmoney> not sure who asked a minute ago about their raid1 but a raid device will always be md#, i.e. md0.  you will have to configure grub to use /dev/md0 as the root.  usually the best solution is to make a separate partition for /boot (and for swap), and then put everything else in the raid.
[18:28] <Slart> pw-toxic: see above
[18:28] <maxxist_> sysdoc possibly you would have to check the docs.  sorry i dont run it that way.
[18:28]  * Marsjanin does crontab -l and pastes it someplace else :P
[18:28] <bobbiem> genii, how do i enable multiverse repository?
[18:28] <erUSUL> bobbiem: System>Admin>Softwre sources
[18:29] <frank__> join #ubuntu_br
[18:29] <Slart> !repos
[18:29] <rand0m> hrmm.. all video (whether an avi file played in VLC media player) or flash videos.. any video plays really choppy and the audio is skipping and everything is very very slow... im assuming it's myd rivers
[18:29] <rand0m> but how do I fix it?
[18:29] <PerSeL> can anyone read what i write?
[18:29] <Xpistos> Is there a way to take a drive in a windows computer and mount it as a folder in my linux system?
[18:29] <Slart> PerSeL: yes
[18:29] <pw-toxic> Slart: well the raid1 thing was a trick to get an answer anyway ;) i also dont think raid1 is the problem ^
[18:29] <PerSeL> slart can you help me with my problem?
[18:29] <rand0m> also - i didn't have this issue with ubuntu 8.04
[18:29] <Xpistos> Is there a way to take a drive in a NETWORKED windows computer and mount it as a folder in my linux system?
[18:30] <Slart> pw-toxic: you could always try reinstalling grub from a live cd.. it's one or two commands iirc
[18:30] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: yes.  add it to fstab and reboot or just run a normal mount command.  you may want to install the ntfs-3g package if you don't have it already.
[18:30] <Slart> PerSeL: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[18:30] <unop> Xpistos, sure, see mount.cifs(1) and mount.smbfs(1)
[18:30] <Owner> if he reinstalls grub from live cd his wondows wont work
[18:30] <PerSeL> Slart: for real i don't know it's a screen comp, i hope you know what i mean
[18:30] <Owner> same situation as me
[18:30] <Slart> PerSeL: what happens if you try clicking system, preferences, screen resolution.. can you change it there?
[18:30] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: yeah, what unop said, if it's a networked drive.
[18:31] <harushimo> my burner cd rom drive doesn't work in hardy heron
[18:31] <PerSeL> yes  i can
[18:31] <Marsjanin> Pe1o, http://www.nopaste.pl/7aq - this is ACTUALLY my crontab... I "played" with #testy section now.
[18:31] <harushimo> how do I get to recognize I have the drive
[18:31] <jgonick> Exitialis:  in the xorg.conf what does it say in section"monitor"  section"screen"
[18:31] <Slart> PerSeL: does that solve your problem?
[18:31] <Xpistos> chuckmoney I am not sure what mount.cifs means?
[18:31] <harushimo> it was working fine in Gutsy Gibbon
[18:31] <pw-toxic> Slart: the problem is that i'm in fear that my bootleader kills my windows and i cant boot windows again ;)
[18:31] <PerSeL> i can change resolution
[18:31] <PerSeL> not colors
[18:31] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, gimme a minute
[18:31] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Is this a command or script?
[18:31] <Exitialis> Section "Monitor"
[18:31] <Exitialis> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[18:31] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: cifs is the common internet file system.  it's the underlying system below SMB or SAMBA, the windows networking system
[18:32] <pw-toxic> Slart:  how did you isntall ubuntu? did you choose the partitions yourself where to install ubuntu?
[18:32] <Exitialis> Section "Screen"
[18:32] <Exitialis> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[18:32] <Exitialis> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[18:32] <Exitialis> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[18:32] <FloodBot3> Exitialis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <noodlesgc> !paste
[18:32] <PerSeL> slart: no i want to change colors not resolution
[18:32] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Thanks I will give that a try
[18:32] <Slart> pw-toxic: ah.. grub is very nice when it comes to other operating systems.... even if it doesn't create a boot menu choice you can easily add it yourself
[18:32] <egoflux> anyone use kdm?
[18:32] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: which means the command would be something like mount -t cifs or such.  for the mount command, it's just a filesystem type.
[18:32] <Xpistos> unop: Thank you as well
[18:32] <LjL> !anyone | egoflux
[18:32] <shawng_work>  any one know how to remove this message from ubuntu "Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.com/" when you login to the ssh shell .
[18:32] <egoflux> lol
[18:32] <FFForever> how do i install the kernel restricted modules?
[18:32] <Slart> PerSeL: ah.. you're right.. there's only resolution there.. hang on.. let me check
[18:33] <Twerk^> 'lo all
[18:33] <UserC> can anyone recommend me of a program for recording sounds from the computer? (internet and such)
[18:33] <LjL> FFForever: they usually get installed by default
[18:33] <mEck0> hi! I tried the encrypted private folder in ubuntu 8.10, but want to uninstall it now. how can I do it? I can't unmount the folder now, got a message telling me its busy or something :(
[18:33] <chuckmoney> shawng_work: try editing /etc/motd
[18:33] <unop> shawng_work, it's probably taken from /etc/motd or /etc/motd.tail
[18:33] <noodlesgc> FFForever just open synaptic and search for linux-restricted-moudles and remove it
[18:33] <shawng_work> i did chuck
[18:33] <FFForever> ljl it says ath5k should be in there....
[18:33] <shawng_work> its not in either of thos 2 files
[18:33] <unop> shawng_work, /etc/issue perhaps?
[18:33] <UserC> can anyone recommend me of a program for recording sounds from the computer? (internet and such)
[18:34] <noodlesgc> FFForever nvm I thought you said uninstall
[18:34] <LjL> UserC, it's not trivial. there was a program that could do that in some cases, but it's no longer in the repositories and it's very updated. you could *probably* do it with an appropriate ALSA configuration file, but i'm not entirely sure how
[18:34] <kylepike> hehe sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. kinda happy right now. ugrading to 8.10 fixed my docking station lockup issues :-).
[18:34] <chuckmoney> shawng_work: no idea then.  it must be something that runs on login, maybe in .bashrc or something.  try killing whatever program it's running on login.
[18:34] <LjL> UserC: i suppose i could try to dig up some links from last time i investigated that
[18:34] <sysdoc> Ok in the repos for intrepid, universe and multiverse have been replaced with 'partmer' and 'partner (source code)'??
[18:34] <kane77> hi, I have slight problem with compiz.. sometimes the windows' toolbar gets blank (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdn0.png the window with the game and the upper terminal window..) does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[18:35] <LjL> sysdoc: no, partner is a different thing, it's mostly for commercial/proprietary applications, and it's Canonical's repository
[18:35] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: yes
[18:35] <Slart> PerSeL: hmm.. I can't really find anywhere to change the colour depth in ubuntu.. you might have to edit the X11 configuration file by hand.. or you could ask the channel again.. you want to change the colour depth to 32bit (or 24 bits, it's the same)
[18:35] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: partner and miltiverse should be one and the same...I think.
[18:35] <noodlesgc> UserC if you have the right cable, you could just put a chord from the headphone jack into the line-in and use audacity
[18:35] <UserC> LjL: that would help but you don't have to if it's that complex.. lol
[18:35] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night, including a new kernel, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working
[18:35] <LjL> chuckmoney: wait, really?
[18:35] <UserC> noodlesgc: i had such a cable.. can't find it
[18:35] <izzy200198> i cant install 8.10. bet busybox. although 8.04 installs no problem
[18:36] <chuckmoney> LiL: I do believe they are the same but I may be wrong.  I know both contain software which is commercial software.
[18:36] <jgonick> Exitialis: I'm not sure what to try next.. I know you can manually edit xorg.conf but it gets over my head fast.  sorry
[18:36] <pw-toxic> can someone tell me what mount point i have to enter when installing ubuntu?
[18:36] <harushimo> anyone know how to fix  a hardware problem
[18:36] <LjL> chuckmoney: in previous versions, "partner" was quite different from "multiverse" (and i wasn't aware of a "partmer" repository)
[18:36] <Exitialis> no worries, thanks for trying :)
[18:37] <Some_ux> I have no idea how to compile an Ubuntu package, and even less how to install it. I am hoping it is not more complicated than writing Make Install. Never tried this sort of maneuver on Linux. I especially don't understand what files i need from the http://packages.ubuntu.com/ site.
[18:37] <harushimo> my dvd burner doesn't in Hardy Heron but it worked in Gutsy gibbon
[18:37] <pw-toxic> there is /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local     what do these folders mean?
[18:37] <dmsuperman> gnome-do keeps crashing for me. Here is stderr / stdout for the few minutes leading up to the crash: http://pastebin.com/d2ef5eac6 it happens regularly, and without me even using gnome-do
[18:37] <LjL> chuckmoney: it used to be that "multiverse" contained patent-encumbered software more than actually proprietary software, and even when it contained proprietary software, it had to satisfy some requirements of distributability
[18:37] <Twerk^> Exitialis: whats your problem with xorg.conf?
[18:37] <turtle_> is there beg difference between RHCT and Ubuntu knowledge?
[18:37] <joaopinto> chuckmoney, multiverse does not contain comercial software
[18:37] <hardwired> how can I check whether my nvidia-glx is installed properly and working?
[18:37] <LjL> chuckmoney: "partner" on the other hand could contain just about anything as long as there was an agreement between canonical and whoever
[18:37] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, so, the virtualbox-ose ver 2.0.4-dfsg-0ubuntu1 is the correct ver??? ubottu reflects "In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-dfsg-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 6089 kB, installed size 20660 kB"
[18:37] <brand0con> Some_ux: what are you trying to install
[18:37] <Slart> hardwired: run glxgears in a terminal and see what kind of info it prints out
[18:37] <Zoem> pw-toxic: at the very least, you need to have a / mountpoint. this is the root directory that is the base of your filesystem
[18:37] <RolfCoptr> does nvidia glx support stereovision? (found no info bout it)
[18:37] <Twerk^> hardwired: glxgears
[18:37] <chuckmoney> LjL: You are probably right actually.  The gstreamer MP3 plugin is most definately not partner but would be multiverse so I'm not sure why multiverse would have disappeared in intrepid.
[18:38] <LjL> chuckmoney: i just checked "vlc" for instance, and it's still in multiverse as it's always been
[18:38] <Neurosyn> I've got a question, can someone walk me through mounting my windows partition so I can access it, and make sure it's mounted on start up?
[18:38] <pw-toxic> Zoem and how does ubuntu know where to boot from?
[18:38] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, ok I just corrected your crontab,  removed a bunch of your test, fixed everyting else that I could figure out ,  test it , just change the time on the last line to check   http://paste.ubuntu.com/68940/  ,  I'm not sure about your wit2000 line,  you might have to make a bash script to start it and  have crontab launch the script instead of the app directly
[18:38] <LjL> chuckmoney: i don't think it has, at least according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ it definitely has not
[18:38] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: I just run qemu for my emulating needs.  I'm not sure what the latest virtualbox or vmware is.
[18:38] <hardwired> Twerk^: ok, trying
[18:38] <yofel> Hi, has anybody got 'WPA2 & WPA2 Enterprise' woring with TLS? I can't get the 'connect' button enabled :(
[18:38] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, ok thx
[18:38] <Pici> Some_ux: Ubuntu packages are not compiled, if you get them from the package repositories they are binaries.
[18:38] <pw-toxic> Zoem i have used 30Gb Ext3 with "/" and 4GB SWAP ... ubuntu got successfully installed but if i start the computer there is no boot asker, and he just starts windows
[18:38] <chuckmoney> LjL: sysdoc said he didn't have a multiverse available on intrepid.  if he does, great.
[18:39] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, I just banged it in here, lol
[18:39] <LjL> Pici: err, so they *are* compiled ;)
[18:39] <pw-toxic> Zoem: do you know what "/boot" is for?
[18:39] <LjL> chuckmoney: right, i think he's a bit confused though
[18:39] <Zoem> pw-toxic: did you install windows before ubuntu?
[18:39] <xman> hi all, i need to do port forwarding for particular range of ports can any one tell me ho to do that?
[18:39] <sharperguy> Anyone happen to know what the intel wifi driver (kernel module) is called (used in the inspiron 6400)?
[18:39] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: If ANY SIMPLE X-window app starts, like gedit or amarok, then I'll testing others :)
[18:39] <pw-toxic> Zoem: yes
[18:39] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: have you installed grub or another bootloader?
[18:39] <LjL> sysdoc: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list so i can understand this better?
[18:39] <Marsjanin> Thenx
[18:39] <Marsjanin> Thanx
[18:39] <pw-toxic> Twerk how can i do this?
[18:39] <hardwired> Twerk^: I don't have that command
[18:39] <Voltaplein> Quick question,: running 8.10 on a desktop with no wireless, yet wpa-supplicant is running.  What is the best way to tell ubuntu that I don't want wireless networking enabled?
[18:39] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Are you still there?
[18:39] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[18:40] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night, including a new kernel, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:40] <dmsuperman> gnome-do keeps crashing for me. Here is stderr / stdout for the few minutes leading up to the crash: http://pastebin.com/d2ef5eac6 it happens regularly, and without me even using gnome-do
[18:40] <noodlesgc> sharperguy its either iwl3945 or iwl4965. You can check which is loaded with lsmod
[18:40] <yofel> sharperguy: it should be iwlagn afaik
[18:40] <harushimo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/68941/
[18:40] <chuckmoney> LjL & sysdoc I'm using 8.04 on everything right now so I don't know much about issues with Intrepid.  I know an ASUS EEE 901 has almost zero compatability with Intrepid.  Beyond that I haven't tried it on anything else.
[18:40] <Twinkletoes|W> help
[18:40] <xman> hi all, i need to do port forwarding for particular range of ports, can any one tell me how to do that?
[18:40] <Twinkletoes|W> oops
[18:40] <ffej2ffej> Hello, everybody
[18:40] <Twerk^> hardwired: whats the error?
[18:40] <LjL> chuckmoney, actually the kernel that comes with Intrepid should bring several improvements toward eeepc compatibility
[18:41] <Exitialis> Twerk^: my monitor is stuck at 800x640maximum because i cant get drivers for it
[18:41] <Some_ux> Pici: I know I can use the Debian apt-get install thinggy, but that's not what i need. I need to Recompile the code in: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/xl2tpd
[18:41]  * Marsjanin goes eat, then comment all lines in crontab except testing one and will say a reesult, Pe1o.
[18:41] <Guaguasi[work]> howdy, i'm pretty new to emacs and i'm using v23.0.60.1 on the new Ubuntu 8.10 x64. I have a website I'm working on through curlftpfs, using both on 8.04 had no issues, however, since the upgrade, I get "IO error writing <file> Input/output error", where <file> is whatever i'm working on. It still saves my changes, but it doesn't register as such.
[18:41] <pw-toxic> Twerk thx this seems interesting... but installing ubuntu like this is ok?: 30gb ext3 using "/" and 4GB using SWAP ?
[18:41] <gammy> ikonia: Again possibly a silly question - I'm using hardy. How can I get the "proposed" package for it as specified here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ov511/+bug/190450
[18:41] <sharperguy> noodlesgc, yofel, thanks, lsmod shows iwl3945
[18:41] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Rebooting the server now
[18:41] <eCli> Anyone can help me with an issue to shell scripting PM me plz!!!!
[18:42] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: 4gb seems like a lot of swaP
[18:42] <joaopinto> gammy, you need to enable the "proposed" repositories on your software sources
[18:42] <yofel> Hi, has anybody got 'WPA2 & WPA2 Enterprise' woring with TLS in the new Networkmanager 7.0? I can't get the 'connect' button enabled :(
[18:42] <lyrae> Hi. Im trying to make an HD mount at boot. Is this wrong: (fstab) /dev/sdb1       /mnt/Shared      ntfs-3g     auto quiet,auto,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,umask=0   0 0
[18:42] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: how much ram you have?
[18:42] <erUSUL> eCli: better help in #bash
[18:42] <eCli> thanx!
[18:42] <chuckmoney> LjL: Not for me.  didn't pick up wifi, bluetooth, or graphics.  it even detected the Atom as a single core.  I used the alpha build maybe 6 days before it hit release but it was far from stable.  I went back to 8.04 with the custom EEE 901 kernel and it has been smooth sailing since.
[18:42] <unique> when i try to run this script by ./file1 it tells me file1 no such file or directory.. however when i type in "ls" i see the file.. and it has +x chmod.. whats the problem with this?
[18:42] <Some_ux> The code in http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/xl2tpd contains a faulty flag in the Makefile. (and a missing If statement in one of the scripts) I just don't know what to do with it :(
[18:42] <Cristi> hello! Can i change the format of a hdd without losing data? (probably not) I want to go from ntfs to whatever linux format
[18:42] <pw-toxic> Twerk currently 2GB but probably soon 8GB
[18:43] <Twerk^> lyrae: looks ok to me assuming your boot drive is sdb
[18:43] <pw-toxic> Twerk i got 2 TB hard disk intern and 1TB extern additionally
[18:43] <joaopinto> Cristi, you can't convert from ntfs to ext3, only with a backup&restore
[18:43] <LjL> Some_ux: out of curiosity why do you need to *compile* it rather than just install it?
[18:43] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: yes that partition scheme seems fine then
[18:43] <noodlesgc> unique try typing ./fil and then hit tab
[18:43] <pw-toxic> ok then i just reinstall it and watch the display.. i it still doesnt work i will try the grub thing in the forum
[18:43] <chuckmoney> LjL: I have 2 friends running Intrepid who love it.  I'm not against Intrepid, but I have 2 systems I use a lot.  One is my EEE and the other is this one I spent 3 days getting dual displays working on, so if I use Intrepid, it'll be because Hardy has hit EOL.
[18:43] <unique> noodlesgc: thats how im doing it
[18:43] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: just remember when installing grub that your drives start at 0 instead of 1
[18:44] <sysdoc> Virtualbox appears to want to create a new partition/image and then install XP can anyone confirm this? Or am I reading this wrong?
[18:44] <ffej2ffej> I want to use crontab to run a PHP script.  I just re-installed LAMP and everything works fine, however I don't have the /usr/bin/php5-cgi like I did before.  Where is it now?  Does it even exist?  Can I run a PHP script without telling crontab about the program?
[18:44] <pw-toxic> Twerk what does this mean to me?
[18:44] <Cristi> joaopinto: how do you i change the format ? i format it with the live cd?
[18:44] <LjL> chuckmoney: i understand the feeling, however i have one thing to say - as long as everybody avoids using the standard kernel, the standard kernel will never get the much needed bug reports, and we'll be stuck forever with that custom kernel (with all the problems that having a forked kernel entertains)
[18:44] <Voltaplein> Quick question,: running 8.10 on a desktop with no wireless, yet wpa-supplicant is running.  What is the best way to tell ubuntu that I don't want wireless networking enabled?
[18:44] <gammy> joaopinto: so basically I have to do a complete upgrade?
[18:44] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: it should create a virtual drive file or something of that sort, not a physical HDD partition.
[18:44] <unop> sysdoc, VB creates a virtual partition/filesystem within a file
[18:44] <Some_ux> LjL: The reason I am saying this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xl2tpd/+bug/247783
[18:44] <joaopinto> Cristi, if you do not have data on it, just use the partition editor, and remove/add the partition
[18:44] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night in 8.10, including kernel 2.6.27-7, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:45] <lyrae> Twerk: it is. but it doesnt work. If i take that line out fstab, then i see the drive under the 'places' menu. If i leave it in, i dont. (but it is mounted because i looked in /mnt/Shared and files are there)
[18:45] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: if your boot drive for ubuntu is sda1, your grub will need to be configured to (0,0)  same as if your boot drive is sdb2, grub will like (1,1)
[18:45] <noodlesgc> Voltaplein right click on network manager and uncheck the Wireless checkbox
[18:45] <pw-toxic> sdb1 is windows
[18:45] <Some_ux> These are know bugs which were resolved in the Intrepid distro, but I can't upgrade to Intrepid, so i need to modify the Hardy source code for that package.
[18:45] <FFForever> can i disable bluetooth i don't use it and it just drains my battery faster....
[18:45] <Cristi> joaopinto: yes i guess you are right
[18:45] <pw-toxic> Twerk sdb1 is windows
[18:45] <lyrae> pw-toxic: yes
[18:46] <Cristi> joaopinto: thank you
[18:46] <Voltaplein> noodlesgc: I cannot  see such a button
[18:46] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: No luck. I think the problem is that I cannot see any shares in the network shares. I have two already bookmarked and they work, but I can't see anyshares for this computer
[18:46] <LjL> Some_ux: ok so the bug seems fixed in intrepid, why don't you try recompiling the *intrepid* package
[18:46] <Twerk^> pw-toxic:  then the windows section of your grub will need to read (1,0)
[18:46] <LjL> Some_ux: you could also request a backport
[18:46] <joaopinto> Some_ux, you can't install packages from hardy in intrepid
[18:46] <Twerk^> brb burning iso in another room
[18:46] <joaopinto> oh, you are rebuilding, that's fine :P
[18:46] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: I am to the point I will just wipe the main drive and install Ubuntu desktop and use that as my file system
[18:46] <chuckmoney> LjL: If someone wants to patch the standard kernel so the EEE's wifi works out of the box I would gladly run Intrepid and send in bug reports while I wait on the rest to get fixed.  Without working wireless sending bug reports involves saving error logs to flash drives and using another system.  But 800x600 isn't much worse than the default res on the EEE so I'd put up with it if it just had working wireless.
[18:47] <SirBijan> hey all
[18:47] <pw-toxic> Twerk^: do i have to configure this myself to keep windows running?
[18:47] <Some_ux> joaopinto: I need the reverse, install Intrepid package on Hardy
[18:47] <matthias___1986> hi
[18:47] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Is there a difference to setting up Samba on U Server vs. U desktop?
[18:47] <matthias___1986> someone there?
[18:47] <joaopinto> ok
[18:47] <joaopinto> Xpistos, no
[18:47] <SirBijan> I wana run 2 lines of script at boot time, one for putting 1 into the ip_forward file and another an iptable NAT
[18:47] <Some_ux> Or manually patch the source code for the Hardy distro myself
[18:47] <LjL> chuckmoney, err, but the array.org kernel (the one i guess you're using on Hardy) *is* also available on intrepid
[18:47] <SirBijan> where should I write them?
[18:47] <PerSeL> where do i change color depth?
[18:47] <SirBijan> I wrote them in /etc/rc.local
[18:47] <unop> !prevu | Some_ux
[18:47] <SirBijan> but it doesn't seem to work
[18:47] <LjL> chuckmoney: (i still think people should run the standard kernel and report bugs against it, but nonetheless..)
[18:48] <SirBijan> i check the ip_forward file, it's empty
[18:48] <Xpistos> joapinto: My laptop and windows boxes are fine. If I put FreeNAS on the server that is good, but I can get samba working on the U server
[18:48] <erUSUL> SirBijan: use /etc/rc.local
[18:48] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: if that sounds good to you it sounds good to me.  One word of caution though, when you start to setup SAMBA on Ubuntu, stick to the actual samba config file if any windows machines will be accessing it, not the Ubuntu GNOME GUI.  When you have to get SAMBA and the Filesystem to agree on how to set permissions it gets sticky.
[18:48] <Xpistos> joapinto: My laptop and windows boxes are fine. If I put FreeNAS on the server that is good, but I CAN'T get samba working on the U server
[18:48] <SirBijan> erUSUL: I told ya, it doesn't seem to work
[18:48] <PerSeL> anyone here can help me with color depth?
[18:48] <SirBijan> i dunno why
[18:48] <SirBijan> it's already there
[18:48] <SirBijan> before the "exit 0" line
[18:49] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night in 8.10, including kernel 2.6.27-7, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:49] <kane77> hi, I have slight problem with compiz.. sometimes the windows' toolbar gets blank (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdn0.png the window with the game and the upper terminal window..) does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[18:49] <matthias___1986> i want to share my internet-connection via firestarter - but i don't get it - my laptop is connected via wlan to a router - this router is connected to the internet - now i want to share the internet via my laptop to my private network but i dont get it
[18:49] <SirBijan> but as I "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", it's a big 0 in there!
[18:49] <Voltaplein> noodlesgc: I cannot  see such a button
[18:49] <erUSUL> SirBijan: paste the file on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:49] <hardwired> Twerk^: ah sorry, I'm back now. no error, just no glxgears installed. what package is it in?
[18:49] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Thanks for the advice. Luckily the Tutorial I got was to edit the config files so there we are good to go
[18:49] <sysdoc> unop, are you running virtualbox?? And can I use it to run an existing XP install on another partition?
[18:49] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, I just tested it with amarok , I installed it just to test,  this line works perfectly  49 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[18:49] <Voltaplein> noodlesgc: The network manager has a tab for wireless (nothing in mine) but no global yes/no button that I can find
[18:50] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: yes, there is.  Ubuntu Server is a console-only system so the only way to set up SAMBA is via editing the config file.  Ubuntu Desktop has GNOME, a desktop environment, and as such has a GUI to configure SAMBA, though again, when dealing with a network with windows clients, you should use the config file method regardless.
[18:50] <LjL> Some_ux: it's actually pretty straightforward to compile an Intrepid package on Hardy, if dependencies haven't changed [much]. 1) add the relevant *source* repository line to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) do "sudo apt-get update" 3) do "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename" 4) do "sudo apt-get --build source packagename" 5) remove the line from sources.list
[18:50] <linxuz3r> hi
[18:50] <hardwired> Twerk^: output of   dpkg -S `which glxgears`   ?
[18:50] <unop> sysdoc, yes i use VB. No, you cannot use it to run windows that was installed on another physical partition.
[18:50] <linxuz3r> how do i change firefox shortcuts?
[18:50] <matthias___1986> i want to share my internet-connection via firestarter - but i don't get it - my laptop is connected via wlan to a router - this router is connected to the internet - now i want to share the internet via my laptop to my private network but i dont get it
[18:50] <SirBijan> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68944/
[18:50] <SirBijan> it says this file does nothing unless you change the execution bits
[18:50] <unique> when i try to run this script by ./file1 it tells me file1 no such file or directory.. however when i type in "ls" i see the file.. and it has +x chmod.. whats the problem with this? i even tried ./fi + tab
[18:50] <joaopinto> sysdoc, that can be done with vmware, but it's a complex setup
[18:51] <SirBijan> does it mean I have to "chmod +x" it?!
[18:51] <Flashtek> matthias___1986: wireless privacy is probably enabled..
[18:51] <sysdoc> unop, great thanks.. Ripping this POS out!
[18:51] <ConstantineXVI> how does one go about shading windows by double-clicking the titlebar (w/ compiz)?
[18:51] <joaopinto> unique, do you have a 64bits installation ?
[18:51] <erUSUL> SirBijan: seems ok.. has the file executable permisons?
[18:51] <Slart> unique: case sensitivity?
[18:51] <Slart> unique: can you run "file file1" ?
[18:51] <unique> joaopinto: how can i find out if i have 64bit ? :)
[18:51] <LetterRip> any idea why  running 'sensors' would only show a subset of data?
[18:51] <SirBijan> erUSUL: yes, it's executable as I see
[18:51] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: also, keep in mind that if you're using a windows login domain and/or active directory then you will have to deal with configuring that.  I spent 8 months at a job I had 2 years ago trying to figure out how to make SAMBA work with AD to no avail.
[18:51] <sysdoc> joaopinto, Yea, I have heard rumors that it can, and the setup isn't that hard but the install appears to be the problem
[18:51] <sysdoc> lol
[18:51] <LetterRip> i only get the CPU temps
[18:52] <joaopinto> unique, try the "file" command from start
[18:52] <geirha> unique: file /bin/bash
[18:52] <LjL> unique: see if "cat /proc/cpuinfo" has "lm" in the "flags"
[18:52] <ConstantineXVI> unique, what processor d you have?
[18:52] <SirBijan> erUSUL: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 423 2008-11-07 18:42 /etc/rc.local
[18:52] <OsamaK> Where is Ubuntu's font folder where I can copy and paste fonts?
[18:52] <joaopinto> sysdoc, vmware is quite easy to install at least the 2.x version :P
[18:52] <sken> i get an error im mplayer  avc nal size 0 what's that?
[18:52] <Pici> !fonts | OsamaK
[18:52] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: for a workgroup-based network, SAMBA is good though.  Plus unlike an XP server you don't have a user limit.
[18:52] <erUSUL> SirBijan: i see a _ in this line echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward_
[18:52] <Voltaplein> Quick question,: running 8.10 on a desktop with no wireless, yet wpa-supplicant is running.  What is the best way to tell ubuntu that I don't want wireless networking enabled?
[18:52] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Two times as lucky. No domain and not AD simple file sharing really
[18:52] <linxuz3r> please how do i change firefox keyboard shortcuts?
[18:52] <OsamaK> thnaks
[18:52] <erUSUL> SirBijan: at the end...
[18:52] <LjL> unique: wait sorry that's for determining whether you have a 64-bit *processor* though, not whether you have a 64-bit Ubuntu
[18:52] <unop> sysdoc, i don't think there is any virtualisation software that can do that
[18:53] <erUSUL> SirBijan: it is thwere or is a typo when pasting??
[18:53] <Antioch> Hi guys, I have a question. I have a thinkpad laptop, which like many other laptops now-a-days comes with a recovery partition. I'd like to dual-boot Ubuntu and XP on my machine while leaving the recovery partition intact and still bootable. Last time I tried this I could dual-boot fine, but I somehow messed it up so that I could no longer boot into the recovery partition...
[18:53] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night in 8.10, including kernel 2.6.27-7, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:53] <joaopinto> Voltaplein, try: dpkg -S wpa-supplicant
[18:53] <joaopinto> and remove the package containing it
[18:53] <hardwired> can someone with nvidia installed please tell me the output of  dpkg -S `which glxgears`
[18:53] <Some_ux> I don't really need the Intrepid version, I know precisely which files to modify in the sourcecode of the Hardy version (it says in the bug post, to simply add a flag to the Makefile) Is Prevu good for that ?
[18:53] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: then I don't forsee any issues.  It should be clear sailing for you.  Unless you're going to use something else on the server in GNOME, install Ubuntu Server to cut down on overhead.
[18:53] <SirBijan> erUSUL: no, it's there!
[18:53] <unique> LjL yea i have lm in flags
[18:53] <geirha> unique: if "file /bin/bash" says bash is 64-bit, then you have 64-bit install
[18:53] <Runpain2_> !pidgen
[18:53] <linxuz3r> hello how do i change firefox shortcuts?????????????????????????????
[18:53] <SirBijan> you are right man!
[18:53] <SirBijan> you are right!
[18:53] <SirBijan> thanks! my stupid mistake
[18:53] <sken> i get an error in mplayer avc nal size 0 what's that?
[18:53] <FloodBot3> SirBijan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <sken> ?
[18:53] <javajeff> Can anyone tell me if Unison can sync from ext3 to ntfs?
[18:53] <unique> irc.freenode.org
[18:53] <unique> oops
[18:53] <sysdoc> joaopinto, Ver2 I installed from the rpm on the site, and when I try to run the config I get::/usr/bin$ sudo vmware-config.pl results in: sh: /etc/init.d/vmware: not found
[18:53] <sken> does anybody has any clue>
[18:54] <sken> ?
[18:54] <Voltaplein> joaopinto: did that, but NetworkManager depends on wpasupplicant.  I just want to tell it to forget about wireless for my machine and not load the daemon
[18:54] <LjL> Some_ux: i've never used prevu, but you can also do what i explained for the hardy version (except drop the "--build", because you'll need to edit stuff before building)
[18:54] <Runpain2_> !gaim
[18:54] <ffej2ffej> I want to use crontab to run a PHP script.  I just re-installed LAMP and everything works fine, however I don't have the /usr/bin/php5-cgi like I did before.  Where is it now?  Does it even exist?  Can I run a PHP script without telling crontab about the program?
[18:54] <unop> javajeff, unison shouldn't have to bother with details of the filesystem, it just bothers about the files themselves
[18:54] <awakebyjava> okay, can someone help me with something?
[18:54] <unique> geirha:  yea it shows up as 64bit.. is there any way for me to reinstall it to 32bit ?
[18:54] <unique> or upgrade it or something
[18:54] <lyhana8> My wacom tablet stuck away the border and this to be wrong calibrate, do you know how to solve it ?
[18:54] <unique> or is there a way for me to run this 32bit application?
[18:54] <chuckmoney> Antioch: most likely whatever you tried before overwrote a special IBM boot loader.  Unfortunately, unless you can edit the menu for that IBM bootloader, you can't dual boot and keep your recovery partition.
[18:55] <javajeff> unop:  I am getting a permission error.  Can Ubuntu 8.1 write to ntfs?
[18:55] <lyhana8> It's a Grapire2 (Bus 003 Device 002: ID 056a:0011 Wacom Co., Ltd Graphire 2)
[18:55] <Slart> unique: what application is it?
[18:55] <Antioch> chuckmoney alright. Ill just boot it from GRUB then :)
[18:55] <unique> its some private script that  i need
[18:55] <Slart> unique: you can usually run 32 bit apps on a 64 bti system.. unless it needs a lot of 32 bit libraries
[18:55] <unop> javajeff, yes, if the volume was mounted with the fuse/ntfs-3g driver - no, if it was mounted with the ntfs driver
[18:55] <unop> ffej2ffej, install the php5-cgi package.
[18:55] <Slart> unique: what did "file file1" return?
[18:56] <sysdoc> unop, there is a tutorial for it that seems to work well, if my install would work, lol
[18:56] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: There are currently two issues in play that I can see. 1) For some reason when I try to update my software sites, the Ubuntu CD keeps erring out and 2) do i have to do anything with smbd I am new to the server in ubuntu and I am only dealing with smb.conf
[18:56] <chuckmoney> Antioch: you will either have to install ubuntu with no boot loader and add Ubuntu to the IBM bootloader, or yeah, install Ubuntu with GRUB and hopefully add a GRUB entry for your recovery partition.  Most likely the recovery partition is a standard DOS partition.
[18:56] <PerSeL> i need a help to change color depth anyone can help me with that?
[18:56] <javajeff> unop.  I just have it mounted with fstab.
[18:56] <awakebyjava> i need to find the device file for my xubuntu install, but i have no idea which one it uses
[18:56] <unop> javajeff, ok, but what driver did you specify?
[18:56] <javajeff> I am able to write to the partition by drag and drop.
[18:57] <unique> Slart: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[18:57] <awakebyjava> i should have said my cdrom
[18:57] <Antioch> chuckmoney Yea, that was my backup plan. I somehow wanted to find a way to retain the functionality of the Thinkvantage button, which when pressed during bootup takes you to the recovery partition.
[18:57] <javajeff> Unop.  Do not know what driver.  just a standard 8.10 install
[18:57] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: for 2) no, smbd is a binary so you can't really edit it anyway, you'd only be messing with smb.conf
[18:57] <SirBijan> I run "iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" and it gives me no error
[18:57] <LjL> PerSeL: the color depth of what, X?
[18:57] <awakebyjava> i found info on it, but i have no idea which device file to use
[18:57] <SirBijan> but then when I run "iptables -L", I can't see my rule defined in there
[18:57] <unop> javajeff, if you are able to copy files over, unison should be able to.  what exactly are the error messages you are gettings?
[18:57] <PerSeL> LjL: I want to set it to 32
[18:57] <SirBijan> but I'm sure it's working, coz it does masquerade
[18:57] <unop> getting*
[18:57] <chuckmoney> Antioch: you probably can't.
[18:57] <javajeff> I was looking for a sync tool to keep data similiar between windows and linux
[18:57] <LjL> PerSeL: it's usually set to 24 (which really is 32) by default
[18:58] <Antioch> chuckmoney Alright, backup plan it is then. Thanks :D
[18:58] <joaopinto> javajeff, rsync :)
[18:58] <PerSeL> LjL: and how can i be sure it's 24?
[18:58] <Some_ux> LjL: I have another problem, the machine I am using is not connected to the web (in part, due to the fact that the xl2tp is faulty) So Can i still do the steps you suggested ?
[18:58] <Slart> unique: well.. it's an executable alright.. so it's not a script.. do you get some kind or error when you try to run it?
[18:58] <javajeff> rsync was my second choice, but I read people switching to Unison
[18:58] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: as for 1) you should probably just redownload the ISO.  If you don't have a blank CD you could always boot it from a flash drive (a 1GB, obviously)
[18:58] <SirBijan> erUSUL: any idea on the case?
[18:58] <Slart> unique: you could try installing those 32 bit libraries.. ia32 something
[18:58] <joaopinto> unique, ia32-libs
[18:58] <LjL> PerSeL: xdpyinfo | grep "depth of root"
[18:58] <Slart> !info ia32-libs | unique
[18:59] <javajeff> error:  jeff_01.20081104124114.xac
[18:59] <javajeff> Failed to set permissions of file /mnt/sda2/Documents/gnucash/jeff_01.20081104124114.xac to ??-?--?--: the permissions was set to ??x?wx?wx instead. The filesystem probably does not support all permission bits. You should probably set the "perms" option to 0o0 (or to 0 if you don't need to synchronize permissions).
[18:59] <timewriter> hi
[18:59] <unique> ok thank you guys
[18:59] <joaopinto> it does exist on amd64 :P
[18:59] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Nah, I am using hardy and have the disk from ubuntu. Well I guess I will just reinstall server and then start again. In MS Server I can do this blindfolded, but I want to rid myself of them so I keep chanting my mantra Linux. Linux, Linux ...
[18:59] <jordo2323> is there a way to get active x controls to work in firefox in Ubuntu (ibex)?
[18:59] <ConstantineXVI> anyone have luck with a MS Lifecam VX-3000 in 8.10?
[18:59] <timewriter> is there any good program to watch tv using a tv-tuner , on ubuntu ?
[18:59] <LjL> Some_ux: no you cannot, not on that machine
[18:59] <LjL> !tv | timewriter
[18:59] <chuckmoney> Antioch: yanno you COULD most likely map a key to just reboot the system and pick the recovery partition when it reboots.  Or just use ctrl-alt-del in Ubuntu.  But I think maybe the IBM system jumps you back a few minutes or something so you really can't duplicate that functionality.
[18:59] <timewriter> thank you
[19:00] <javajeff> my MS Lifecam VX3000 does not work with 8.10
[19:00] <timewriter> so which one ill use ?
[19:00] <unop> javajeff, are the files being copied tho?   currently, there is no way you can translate unix permissions for ntfs - in otherwords, ntfs-3g does not have that capability (yet)
[19:00] <unique> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs.. it tells me that it cannot find it
[19:00] <gammy> joaopinto: ..was my presumption correct? :o Where might I find more information about doing so?
[19:00] <raar> Hi! I just turned on my pc after moving houses (it was off for months) and the time was in front by one week or so. So I changed the system time, but this causes the problem that I can't use sudo. It gives me the following error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 19:50:41 2008
[19:00] <LjL> Some_ux: you can move stuff manually to that machine, i guess, but it'll be quite cumbersome to do, because you'll also have to get the various build dependencies installed
[19:00] <Antioch> chuckmoney I'll look into it. I found a good article on a wiki related to the subject.
[19:00] <javajeff> the status is a red X and says failed.  I am using the gui
[19:00] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: good luck man.  If you're going to do this on another system try to stick in the chat and we'll walk you through as much as we can.
[19:01] <PerSeL> LjL: it's tell me 24 planes
[19:01] <joaopinto> gammy, i am not following you, sorry
[19:01] <Slart> jordo2323: I don't think so
[19:01] <unop> javajeff, what GUI?
[19:01] <LjL> PerSeL: so you're all set
[19:01] <jgonick> timewriter: I like tvtime and  also mplayer
[19:01] <javajeff> the graphical interface for Unison
[19:01] <timewriter> im installing mythtv
[19:01] <ffej2ffej> I want to use crontab to run a PHP script.  I just re-installed LAMP and everything works fine, however I don't have the /usr/bin/php5-cgi like I did before.  Where is it now?  Does it even exist?  Can I run a PHP script without telling crontab about the program?
[19:01] <PerSeL> LjL: but anyway i think my screen can work better with 32
[19:01] <awakebyjava> okay, install of ubuntu from cdrom will not detect a cdrom driver
[19:01] <LjL> jgonick: mplayer drives what, DVB cards? analog?
[19:01] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: I will jump back in a few hours. The ball and chain gave me a honey do list, so time to get cracking
[19:01] <PerSeL> LjL: at least in windows xp it looks better with 32
[19:01] <LjL> PerSeL, and you think wrong
[19:01] <unop> javajeff, ok, but have you verified that the files are being copied using nautilus (or whatever your file browser is) ?
[19:01] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: thanks again
[19:02] <awakebyjava> i found the info on the drive though using dmesg | -i cd-rom
[19:02] <Xpistos> FREEDOM!
[19:02] <unop> ffej2ffej, install the php5-cgi package. (for the second time)
[19:02] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: no problem.  glad I could help.  (and glad I'm just 21 and single too.)
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: 24 bits means 8 bits per pixel, which in turn means 256 shades of green, red, and blue
[19:02] <gammy> joaopinto: Does enabling the "proposed" repo imply that I will have to upgrade more than ov511-dev ?
[19:02] <awakebyjava> so not i have that info, but what do i do with it?
[19:02] <PerSeL> LjL: is it realy that hard to change depth color that you're not tell me it?
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: 32 bit means the same, except there's 8 more bit for something called "alpha channel", which is basically transparency
[19:02] <javajeff> GTK interface.  The files are already there, I am hoping the program will update and replace them
[19:02] <ffej2ffej> Thanks, unop.  I didn't see it before.
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: i've ALREADY told you that what Ubuntu's X calls "24 bit" really is 32 bit
[19:02] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: sometimes I wish I was too
[19:02] <Slart> jordo2323: although there are some hits on google for using wine to run some kind of mozilla active x thingy..
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: perhaps you didn't pay very much attention
[19:03] <javajeff> maybe I should just try rsync
[19:03] <PerSeL> LjL: ok thank you
[19:03] <LjL> PerSeL: i can tell you how to change your color depth, but if you set it to 32, it will just give you an error. that's because the alpha channel is enabled when you set 24 bit, and 32 is just short for "24 plus alpha channel"
[19:03] <unop> javajeff, jeez.  copy some other files or see if these files have actually been updated -- the errors you are getting are just warnings.
[19:03] <chuckmoney> javajeff: not going to try to jump in the middle of someone else helping you, but when using Unison-gtk, if you just use "merge" on the topmost level of what you're trying to sync and then click "run" it will usually do everything else for you.
[19:03] <unique> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:03] <Pici> LjL: I thought it was 8 bits of buffer.
[19:03] <unique> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:04] <geirha> raar: not sure which files need to get the timestamp set to fix that, but I believe a reboot will fix it
[19:04] <LjL> Pici: buffer?
[19:04] <Pici> LjL: I don't know, I'm tired.
[19:04] <PerSeL> LjL: ok i got the point thank you again
[19:04] <unique> when i try to install ia32-libs.. i get that error
[19:04] <unop> chuckmoney, the problem he has is unison trying to set permissions for the files copied to an NTFS volume.
[19:04] <PerSeL> LjL: so basicly i'm @ 32 like in windows
[19:04] <erUSUL> Pici: LjL is right afaik the extra 8 bits is alpha channel
[19:04] <jgonick> LjL: I use mplayer for an old win-TV card (analog  -- I suppose)
[19:04] <Slart> unique: do you have synaptic running in the background?
[19:04] <raar> geirha: ah ok, I'll give that a shot - thanks!
[19:04] <erUSUL> PerSeL: yep
[19:04] <Pici> erUSUL: I stand (sit) corrected then.
[19:04] <topinio> bonsoir :)
[19:04] <Some_ux> LjL: Am I correct in assuming all i need to compile that package is libc6 and ppp ?  (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/xl2tpd)
[19:04] <chuckmoney> unique: check and be sure ubuntu isn't checking for updates.  look at the icons in the system tray.  if it's looking for updates the icon will be gray.  if it is, that's what's using dpkg.
[19:04] <LjL> Pici: there's probably several ways to use those spare 8 bits, most commonly it's called the alpha channel, but i can't exclude X also uses it for other stuff
[19:05] <erUSUL> Pici: :)
[19:05] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I want to send files from one direction to the other.  Are you saying Merge will automatically keep the newest between the two directions?  The instructions are hard to search.
[19:05] <OsamaK> Is there a font browser for Ubuntu?
[19:05] <unique> dpkg -S libGL.so.1.2 gives me: libgl1-mesa-glx: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[19:05] <chuckmoney> unop and javajeff: there isn't an option for that in unison-gtk but the console command has an option to set permissions on either end.  don't think it supports NTFS though.
[19:05] <n8tuser> unique-> if you cat /var/lib/dpkg/lock   and get a number it is locked
[19:05] <Slart> OsamaK: I think there is one or two available in synaptic
[19:05] <azendal> whats the app for linux that takes care of backups
[19:05] <LjL> Some_ux: well, you also need "build-essential" (which every package needs to compile, since it includes, among other things... the compiler). but still, no, those two dependencies listed are just the *runtime* dependencies, not the *build* dependencies
[19:05] <Slart> !backup | azendal
[19:06] <chuckmoney> javajeff: yes, merge will pick the newest version on whichever end it's on and put that newest one on both ends.
[19:06] <shawng_work> chuckmoney i dont seee any refrence in .bashrc  that would mean that
[19:06] <unique> n8tuser: i get nothing there..
[19:06] <unop> chuckmoney, i have no idea about unison, all i know is that unix permission aren't translated for NTFS by the current ntfs-3g driver.
[19:06] <azendal> its something like time machine for the mac
[19:06] <puff> azendal: Dunno about backups per se, but I just went through a multiple disk failure and a friend highly recommended setting up a unison setup so my personal files are always automatically backed up.
[19:06] <n8tuser> unique-> it should be okay then
[19:07] <chuckmoney> shawng_work: no clue then.  restate your issue and maybe someone else can help you
[19:07] <LjL> Some_ux: i don't know how to list the build dependencies, i just know that "apt-get build-dep" will install them
[19:07] <E3b> hello I need some help please, on Workspace Switcher I have only 2 desktop and I cant add more, how can I fix it?
[19:07] <ktemkin> hello
[19:07] <unique> n8tuser: well i cant apt-get anything..
[19:07] <ktemkin> I have a question about the ubuntu development/package process
[19:07] <unique> i will try to reboot
[19:08] <Pici> Some_ux: apt-cache showsrc packagename   will show the build-deps
[19:08] <ktemkin> there was a problem with the evdev driver that resulted in volume keys sticking on a lot of laptops
[19:08] <unique> oops
[19:08] <javajeff> chuckmonkey:  Merge did not do anything
[19:08] <unique> now it tells me: E: Couldn't find package ia32-libs
[19:08] <Some_ux> Pici: Thanks !
[19:08] <ktemkin> I wrote a patch for the evdev driver, fixing the problem
[19:08] <KaiForce> i've disabled Nautilus as my desktop file manager - what alternatives are there?
[19:08] <ktemkin> what do I do now? (i.e. testing, etc)
[19:08] <chuckmoney> javajeff: not sure if I was clear.  If File1 on SystemA is newer than File1 on SystemB, and File2 on SystemB is newer than File2 on SystemA, Merge mode will put File1 from SystemA and File2 from SystemB on both systems so both have the newest of each file.  Does that explain it?
[19:08] <LjL> KaiForce: if you go to #ubuntu-bots and ask to "list every file manager", it will give you a few
[19:08] <chiliblue> anyone having issues with playing avi files?
[19:08] <Pici> ktemkin: Post the patch as an attachment to the bug.
[19:09] <KaiForce> LjL thanks
[19:09] <flakrat> In Intrepid, if I manually set eth0 IP address it works, but after rebooting it resets back to DHCP, is this a known issue or just something screwy with my laptop?
[19:09] <armyofda12mnkeys> is there anyway root can be locked out of a file. like if you did sudo chmod 000 file.txt. i assume yes since root has no access then, but then how would he get perms back? i didnt want to test with my system yet :)
[19:09] <Some_ux> Pici: Do i need to install the package to run that command ?
[19:09] <OsamaK> Slart: can you name one?
[19:09] <pw-toxic> Slart: it is still using windows   and there is no boot menu
[19:09] <Pici> Some_ux: No.
[19:09] <n8tuser> flakrat-> in the interfaces file set it as static
[19:09] <armyofda12mnkeys> just chmodding them back will give root access?
[19:10] <flakrat> n8tuser, so bypass the Network Manager gui?
[19:10] <gla> #CAcert
[19:10] <n8tuser> flakrat-> man interfaces
[19:10] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: no.  You might need to install gstreamer codecs, most likely xvid or divx, or even ffmpeg.  If that doesn't make them playable, it's usually an issue with graphics or sound drivers, i.e. not specific to your avi.
[19:10] <ktemkin> ok, thank you
[19:10] <erUSUL> flakrat: ifconfig changes do not survive reboots. System>Preferences>Network Settings?
[19:10] <n8tuser> flakrat-> if you have static ip assigned, you dont need nm gui to set things
[19:10] <chiliblue> I have them installed, must be video then I guess
[19:10] <E3b> hello I need some help please, on Workspace Switcher I have only 2 desktop and I cant add more, how can I fix it?
[19:10] <unique> why is apt-get telling me now: E: Couldn't find package ia32-libs
[19:11] <sysdoc> joaopinto, u still around?
[19:11] <Some_ux> It's strange, working on a computer without web access in that place, makes me feel like a blind man.
[19:11] <chiliblue> it goes to play them then crashes the app..doesn't matter which app I try
[19:11] <tomvolek> Hi all,  I just installed Ubuntu 8.1 on mysony viao.  I get this error message at boot time about cman and clusters, and it keeps repeating for 30 or so times, and five minute later fianlly boots.  I looked at dmesg and i dont see this message there . any idea what this is and how i can turn it off ?
[19:11] <javajeff> chuckmonkey:  I understand how it works.  I just cannot get it to work.  I am able to manually copy the files from ext3 to ntfs, but I get errors trying to do it with Unison
[19:11] <chuckmoney> E3b: just right-click the workspace switched and select Preferences, then increase the number of columns or rows.
[19:12] <E3b> chuckmoney, I dont have Preferences there...
[19:12] <noltha> hi all! I have a little problem, I want to install 8.04 on my stylistic st4110 tablet, I tried booting from the live CD in standard and safe video mode, but when the X system starts I get white columns on the screen wich gradually has more intensity, any idea with this? thx in advance
[19:12] <flakrat> n8tuser, except for the wifi card, this is a docked laptop, so static on eth0 and dhcp on wlan0. I'll hard code it via interfaces, thanks :-)
[19:12] <brianw83> I'm trying to connect something to my machine by a serial port.  Is there a way to find out where it is connected using dmesg or something like that>
[19:12] <chuckmoney> E3b: Never heard of that.  Do you get preferences when you right click any other panel applets?
[19:12] <pw-toxic> can anyone help me to get ubuntu starting?
[19:13] <E3b> chuckmoney, yes..
[19:13] <pw-toxic> i have installed ubuntu but windows is booting instead of ubuntu
[19:13] <danilebeau> Hello ubuntu world!! iz got a problemo. i can't view youtube videos but i do hear the sound. whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[19:13] <dangsos> okie dokie, so I'm trying to install java and I downloaded it to the site....I sudo chmod a+x <filename>.bin and now I have another <filename>.bin that the instructions tell me to ./<filename>.bin but that doesn't work
[19:13] <javajeff> chuckmonkey:  I think the problem is that Unison is trying to set permissions.  It does not know that the one direction is ntfs.  How do I tell it to ignore permissions?
[19:13] <erUSUL> !java | dangsos
[19:13] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: That's nice You installed Amarok just for that test, but there was no reeason; NO app works, even gedit. I commented all the lines but the teesting one (last). Gedit didn't started. Maybe that's some with 'export'? Is that an application?
[19:13] <chuckmoney> E3b: sounds like maybe you should just remove and reinstall the gnome-panel-applets package then.  the issue sounds like a bad copy of the applet.
[19:13] <dangsos> !java
[19:13] <E3b> chuckmoney, ok.. I remove it from the pannel and add it again and now I have
[19:13] <E3b> chuckmoney, thanks!
[19:14] <Slart> !info gnome-specimen | OsamaK
[19:14] <n8tuser> brianw83-> you can try wvdial  to see if it interacts with your serial port
[19:14] <danilebeau>  Hello ubuntu world!! iz got a problemo. i can't view youtube videos but i do hear the sound. whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[19:14] <Slart> pw-toxic: hmm.. how did you install ubuntu? using the normal install cd?
[19:14] <Some_ux> I forgot to mention, I have another Ubuntu machine with an almost identical setup which does have web access, can that help me ?
[19:15] <pw-toxic> Slart: i burned cd 8.10 cd i386
[19:15] <pw-toxic> startet ubuntu live
[19:15] <pw-toxic> clicked onto the install icon
[19:15] <pw-toxic> i did everything normal except using the hard drive manually
[19:15] <pw-toxic> selection the hard drive manually..
[19:15] <chuckmoney> javajeff: does it fail trying to copy any files at all or just on certain directories?  Unison doesn't understand even the most vague concept of NTFS permissions, and it runs with whatever permissions the windows user account it's running as has on windows.  Any problem with NTFS permissions in unison is due to running it as a non-admin user in windows.  Try running Unison as the local Administrator account on the windows en
[19:15] <chuckmoney> d and see if it works.
[19:16] <chuckmoney> javajeff: and it's money, not monkey.  I don't mind but if you type chuckmonkey it doesn't highlight the message and I barely notice it.
[19:16] <pw-toxic> can i check that ubuntu was installed correctly when windows is bootet ?
[19:16] <chiliblue> does nautilus still have issues with smb shares?
[19:16] <Slart> pw-toxic: well.. then I have no idea why it isn't working.. sorry.. sounds like you did it all..
[19:16] <helpy> my mic is muted in audio controls automatically in ubuntu. i have to unmute it all the time
[19:16] <helpy> can someone help ?
[19:17] <Slart> pw-toxic: I don't really know.. windows isn't my thing =)
[19:17] <fallore> Is there a way to make the "Not connected? Printer 'printer' may not be connected" popup go away? It just won't stop...
[19:17] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  Very sorry.  I did not notice because you are yellow on white with XChat coloring
[19:17] <pw-toxic> Slart: damnit i really want to see compiz with nvidia and dual view ;)
[19:17] <danilebeau>  Hello ubuntu world!! iz got a problemo. i can't view youtube videos but i do hear the sound. whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[19:17] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: not usually but I'm not sure.  most problems nautilus has had with SMB shares are because the default workgroup in smb.conf is "mshome" while XP Professional defaults to "workgroup" so nautilus doesn't see them.
[19:18] <geirha> pw-toxic: It just boots windows, with no option to boot ubuntu?
[19:18] <pw-toxic> no
[19:18] <jgonick> ﻿pw-toxic: did it install GRUB
[19:18] <Some_ux> After I type  apt-cache showsrc xl2tpd  I get:
[19:18] <Some_ux> ...
[19:18] <Some_ux> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), dpatch
[19:18] <Sajuta> danilebeau: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 Look there, it should help.
[19:18] <pw-toxic> jgonick: how do i know it has installed grub
[19:18] <javajeff> Chuckmoney:  I am trying to run unison in Linux and copy files that i work on like gnucash to Windows part.
[19:19] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: personally I have to use a wireless router in reverse to connect to my other systems which puts my desktop in a seperate subnet, hence I have to connect samba by IP address, but windows would have the same problem, so it's not an issue with ubuntu.
[19:19] <gavagai> Ok I am partitioning my drive for dual boot with Windows.  Does it matter what order I do the partitions?  I was going to do:  Ubuntu system, Windows system, linux swap, /home.  DOes it matter?
[19:19] <Some_ux> So I assume i need build-essential, debhelper, dpatch ?
[19:19] <ConstantineXVI> gavagai, the order doesn't matter
[19:20] <chiliblue> I'll have a look in smb.conf
[19:20] <danilebeau> many thanks sajuta!
[19:20] <chuckmoney> javajeff: I understand what your problem is, but here's what I'm saying.  the issue is not unison because unison doesn't understand the concept of filesystem permissions.  it just checks timestamps and copies files around, that's it.
[19:20] <geirha> gavagai: it's best to have the windows parittion as the first partition, but your set up should work too as long as windows is on a primary partition
[19:20] <pw-toxic> jgonick: what can i do to install grub?
[19:20] <ConstantineXVI> gavagai, though i've always installed windows, left the ubuntu space blank, then installed ubuntu in the remainder
[19:20] <jgonick> ﻿pw-toxic: Its been awhile since I installed but I thought it walked you through setting up the bootloader Grub.  You can always boot with the live cd and see if it is installed.
[19:20] <gavagai> geirha, ok thanks.  i will just put windows first then.
[19:20] <chuckmoney> javajeff: which means any permissions error is seperate from unison.  if you're copying to a local NTFS drive the drive is probably mounted read only, and that's your problem
[19:21] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  if I use cp -r will that work sending all files one direction?
[19:21] <pw-toxic> jgonick: how?
[19:21] <gavagai> ConstantineXVI, ok you mean use the windows installer to create the first partition, leave the rest blank, and then let ubuntu handle the rest?
[19:21] <ConstantineXVI> gavagai, right, that's how I always do it
[19:21] <chuckmoney> javajeff: you can try it, but if the problem is with the NTFS partition being mounted read only, that will fail too
[19:21] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  If the drive was mounted read only, then I should not be able to manually copy to it.
[19:21] <gavagai> ok maybe i'll do that.  i was going to create them all first with gparted
[19:21] <noltha> any idea of why when X starts I only see white columns progressively more intense in a LCD screen? (8.04)
[19:21] <ArShAm> hi all
[19:22] <eventi> any trick to getting bind9 installed on ubuntu 8.10?
[19:22] <chuckmoney> javajeff: indeed, so can you manually copy it or not?
[19:22] <eventi> no named.conf created
[19:22] <Some_ux> OK, following the assumption that i need build-essential, debhelper, dpatch  how do i get those packages to the machine without web access ?
[19:22] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: doesn't look like smb.conf is the culprit it has workgroup as the defaut
[19:22] <ConstantineXVI> noltha, you might have a short in your monitor's cord.  sounds like a problem one of my clients had the other day
[19:22] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I can copy files using Gnome cut and paste.
[19:22] <danilebeau> hey are there any commercial games made specifically for linux?
[19:23] <chiliblue> they sold q3a for linux...thats was a while back
[19:23] <ConstantineXVI> danilebeau, all of id's stuff (doom, quake, rage) usually gets a linux binary close to day zero
[19:23] <jgonick> ﻿pw-toxic: Boot from the disc you made and then you should be able to see all your drives and partitions.  You could check to see if Ubuntu was installed.
[19:23] <chiliblue> although it was more expensive than the windows version
[19:23] <zendo> Hi everyone. One question please. I have dual boot system: linux and win xp. GRUB is in charge of booting each of os's. I would like to reinstall win xp, but I know that nt loader will override grub. What is the easiest way to put grub back on, for dual booting linux and windows, after I reinstall Windows xp?
[19:23] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: no clue then.  try mapping samba using the "connect to server" and using the server's IP address instead of its hostname
[19:23] <pw-toxic> jgonick: ok ill try this
[19:23] <noltha> Codedrunk_Work you mean a physical problem on the connector or similar?
[19:23] <poopuser> roblem with monitor settings - i am running my nec 22wv at max res 1680 x 1050 and the problem is that ubuntu dosn't alow me to change refresh rate > 51 hz.anyone knews why?
[19:23] <ConstantineXVI> danilebeau, from id itself, that is
[19:23] <flakrat> so if I'm setting the ip in /etc/network/interfaces, how do I specify the DNS servers? If I add them to /etc/resolv.conf, NM will overwrite them
[19:24] <chiliblue> tried that and nautilus does the same, I have a workaround using pyNeighorhood it works but isn't very elegant
[19:24] <chuckmoney> javajeff: not sure then...if you run a "mount" command in console to list what's currently mounted, what the the options for your NTFS drive?
[19:24] <noltha> sorry ConstantineXVI you mean a physical problem on the connector or similar?
[19:24] <ConstantineXVI> noltha, exactly
[19:25] <noltha> ConstantineXVI wow, but it works nice under windows O_o good resolution, screen rotation..
[19:26] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: I'm desperated. I try out now: 28 * * * * gedit
[19:26] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I am able to use the cp command too.  Mount:  /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sda2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[19:26] <javajeff> /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sda2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[19:27] <javajeff> sorry group for the double paste.  lag.
[19:27] <zendo> anyone?
[19:28] <Some_ux> I assume dpatch is some sort of patching utility ? How do i use it ?
[19:28] <zendo> Hi everyone. One question please. I have dual boot system: linux and win xp. GRUB is in charge of booting each of os's. I would like to reinstall win xp, but I know that nt loader will override grub. What is the easiest way to put grub back on, for dual booting linux and windows, after I reinstall Windows xp?
[19:28] <hubar> Marsjanin: try /usr/bin/gedit instead of just gedit itself.
[19:28] <zendo> if it's too much to explain, please direct me to some web page
[19:28] <chuckmoney> javajeff: you might consider mounting it with a uid= or gid= being your user and group IDs (most likely the default for the first account on ubuntu, 1000)
[19:29] <zendo> my main concern is if I boot from CD, linux from my hard, I cannot mount devices so I can reinstall grub at mbr
[19:29] <Marsjanin> hubar: but it works for non-X-window apps, like wget.
[19:29] <unique> why is my apt-get returning Couldn't find package?
[19:29] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I am going to try the other program.  rsync.  I googled the web, and others have this problem.
[19:29] <unique> for whichever package i search for
[19:29] <jgonick> zendo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:29] <javajeff> thanks for your help.
[19:30] <chuckmoney> javajeff: if that doesn't work...I don't know.  but if you can copy files that's probably not it anyway.  unison runs in userspace, so it should be subject to the exact same permissions for a local copy as cp or mv
[19:30] <zendo> jgonick: thanks man
[19:30] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: you were right about the avi issue, was the driver...having to use a non open driver now..but it does play
[19:30] <pw-toxic> jgonick: no i have bootet live ubuntu and there is a 30,0 GB Medium with the following folders: bin boot dev etc home ...
[19:31] <pw-toxic> jgonick: looks like this is the one i just have installed
[19:31] <equiv> I have a problem emptying my trash, some folders are still there
[19:31] <pw-toxic> jgonick: but i cant boot it...
[19:31] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  that is why I am confused.  I think the program should just worry about the files.
[19:32] <blumm> hello
[19:32] <pw-toxic> jgonick: maybe these information could help you: i have 3 hard drives:  2*500GB @ raid1 with 4 partitions: 1) window xp 30gb   2) ubuntu 30gb and 30GB unpartitioned (for vista later) and rest files                and 1* 1tb files
[19:32] <blumm> how can i define the terminal profile for a specific app like irssi ??
[19:32] <Zoem> Hi, I am on 8.10, and upgraded to kernel version 2.6.27-7 last night. Now I do not have any dns, and the network manager connection editor cannot change settings
[19:32] <ror_newb> i'm trying to get myself to stop using the mice; the main problem is that the stupid touchpad is too close to ignore; is there a way to pragmatically tell X to ignore / unignore the touchpad?
[19:32] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: glad I could help
[19:32] <chiliblue> flickers though
[19:33] <Baversjo> How can I get motherboard model?
[19:33] <jgonick> ﻿pw-toxic:  in the boot folder there should be a grub folder
[19:33] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: you can help a little more, whats a nice open supported pci-e card for linux these days. NO idea why I got a ATI again
[19:33] <pw-toxic> jgonick: yes you are right
[19:33] <chuckmoney> javajeff: I am as confused as you at this point.  You can certainly try rsync but running rsync for a local file copy is kinda of like running apache just to open a web page you have stored in your documents folder.  i.e. running a network server just for local access.
[19:33] <Marsjanin> hubar: tested now: simple command echo "text" > text.txt works OK in cron. The problem is only with displaying X-window apps. Running, not only displaying (if it's possible) - pgrep can't find them.
[19:34] <dietre> equiv: maybe deleting the trash-folder helps (rename it only for safety; if that works, you can also delete it)
[19:34] <chiliblue> somthing mid range
[19:34] <hubar> Marsjanin: sorry can not help you there. :(
[19:34] <Marsjanin> No problem.
[19:34] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I may just use command line commands for basic copying files.  I was trying to automate it more syncing data
[19:35] <joaopinto> rsync is just as useful for local copies as for remote :)
[19:35] <Marsjanin> thanks for good will, hubar.
[19:35] <jgonick> ﻿pw-toxic:  there should be a menu.1st file
[19:35] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: no clue, but as a general rule any NVidia card newer than a GeForce 6200 isn't going to work well with the open source drivers.
[19:35] <Zoem> does anyone maybe know how to turn off network manager and do everything manual?
[19:35] <ConstantineXVI> javajeff, ever given dropbox a shot?
[19:35] <jgonick> ﻿pw-toxic: menu.lst i mean
[19:36] <chuckmoney> javajeff: try searching unison in synaptic.  there is another tool that shows up there which may work.  I haven't tried it but according to the summary it's much more capable than unison, albeit without a decent GUI yet.
[19:36] <javajeff> no, I am looking for programs.  I will look for it.  Thanks!
[19:36] <ratpoison> hello! assistance needed. Intrepid amd64 user. I want to connect to the internet via my usb adsl modem sagem fast 800. Do I still need to isntall firmware and stuff? How do I configure teh new network manager thingy?
[19:36] <dietre> Zoem, have you tried removing network-manager?
[19:36] <ConstantineXVI> Zoem, i believe NM gives you a fair amount of manual control, r-click, edit connections
[19:36] <javajeff> how come I cannot delete a full directory with rmdir -r .unison ???
[19:37] <Slylias> where can I check for open bugs in an ubuntu driver?
[19:37] <vox> javajeff: what's the error
[19:37] <JonRob> hi all, just removed ubuntu from a computer, but am left with grub tht won't boot and can't get into the existing vista partition
[19:37] <ville__> Hello guys! I have an toshiba laptop with Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 do you know if i
[19:37] <JonRob> don't have installation cds
[19:37] <chuckmoney> javajeff: I usually just use -rf.  the -f (or force) flag has magical powers when used with rm
[19:37] <ville__> sry
[19:37] <Zoem> ConstantineXVI NM now has the nm-connection-editor as its connection editor, which throws an error whenever I try to edit a connection
[19:37] <JonRob> is there anyone to fix it!?!
[19:37] <joaopinto> JonRob, ask for help on ##windows, how to restore the windows boot loader
[19:37] <esperegu> JonRob: why would you remove ubuntu?
[19:37] <Zoem> dietre I have been holding off an that since it seemed a bit drastic
[19:37] <ConstantineXVI> JonRob, have a windows disk handy?
[19:37] <javajeff> rmdir: invalid option -- 'r'
[19:38] <Marsjanin> JonRob: Have You got the Vista CD/DVD?
[19:38] <JonRob> no no cd/dvd
[19:38] <NemesisD> so whats the word on the new version. are there widespread reports of borked installations from upgrading? i usually try to wait about a week after its released
[19:38] <joaopinto> javajeff, it's rm, not rmdir
[19:38] <prince_jammys> javajeff: rmdir only removes empty dirs.  rm -r directory
[19:38] <JonRob> if i reinstall ubuntu
[19:38] <JonRob> it'll fix up grub
[19:38] <esperegu> JonRob: sure
[19:38] <JonRob> and then i can fix things properly!?
[19:38] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: do you use a 6200...they are pennies now...if it is going to be less hassle than this ATI I might get one
[19:38] <ConstantineXVI> JonRob, your only shot is to get a windows disk, fire up the recovery console, and fixmbr, or reinstall ubuntu
[19:38] <Marsjanin> Usually Windows should fix the MBR, when you boot (and do some commands) from the bootcd.
[19:38] <Zoem> ConstantineXVI "Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only).." is the error it gives me
[19:39] <JonRob> ok...just need to get my hands on an ubuntu disc again now
[19:39] <javajeff> you know what, I did an rm -r first, but it gave me an error that it was a directory.  It worked now though, thanks.
[19:39] <Blah> JonRob you could also use Gparted ?
[19:39] <JonRob> Blah: to fix mbr?
[19:39] <esperegu> what is the correct way to resize partitions with lvm?
[19:39] <JonRob> either way i need to get a disc...
[19:39] <JonRob> thanks for the advice, have to nip out now 'cos my other comp doesn't have a dvd drive
[19:39] <Slylias> I have found a bug with the driver that supports the 8187 wifi chipset (realtek), where do I report it? Also, where is the source for this driver located, as I'd like to try to fix it (I'm a programmer)
[19:39] <Marsjanin> JonRob: Try to edit the boot.lst file when you boot from CD Uubntu.
[19:39] <Blah> JonRob oh.. no. sry. for that you will need a win disk
[19:40] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: I had a laptop with a 6200.  The laptop fried, I replaced one too many HDDs and killed the SCSI bus, but the graphics card always worked fine.  Only trouble is that something as low as a 6200 won't do dual monitors.  But yeah, it works fine as long as you're not trying to play any advanced windows gamed, i.e. Crysis is a definate no-go.
[19:40] <JonRob> thanks for the advice
[19:40] <rockstar92> so my computer cannot connect to local or password protected wireless networks, why
[19:40] <ConstantineXVI> Slylias, if you know the package, "sudo apt-get source package" will fetch the source
[19:40] <Slylias> I don't know the package. It's the driver for the 8187 realtek wifi chipset.
[19:41] <sebas8911> hey folks, I'm having problem with the default-language in kdm, I want it in spanish... but not working.  even, I have put the system in es_AR
[19:41] <Slylias> it is plug and play in ubuntu
[19:41] <devmon> Hello, I have ubuntu authenticating against an Open Directory (ldap) and Im getting the error about the not found home directory. The directory server is on a different box.. Can anyone help?
[19:41] <sebas8911> anyone can help on this issue ?
[19:41] <genii> Slylias: rtl8187
[19:41] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: the most advanced thin I am likely to play will be tuxracer :) I like fancy desktop effects...I just like to keep it all opensource
[19:41] <ratpoison> hello! assistance needed. Intrepid amd64 user. I want to connect to the internet via my usb adsl modem sagem fast 800. Do I still need to isntall firmware and stuff? How do I configure teh new network manager thingy?
[19:41] <Slylias> thank you genii
[19:41] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: A 6200 will do the advanced level of Compiz eye candy in GNOME without breaking a sweat, so for every day use it's plenty.  Personally I couldn't be happy without dual monitors.
[19:41] <jgonick> pw-toxic: does menu.lst mention your windows?
[19:42] <morphir> what is your memory usage on idle?
[19:42] <FFForever> anyone know how i can install the ath5k drivers in ubuntu 8.04
[19:42] <zamba> i need a way to control the fan speed of my dell laptop.. what can i use for that?
[19:42] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: no space for a 2nd display here so it won't be an issue for me
[19:42] <Zoem> can someone tell me the ip's for opendns plz?
[19:42] <zamba> it's insanely hot
[19:42] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: and Tuxracer runs great on my EEE with an Intel GMA945 so ot might as well be windows solitare.  Yeah, a 6200 will do for you great.
[19:43] <Slylias> Problem: E: Unable to find a source package for rtl8187
[19:43] <Twerk^> GMA945 seems great for every day use
[19:43] <rockstar92> is there something i need to do to let my computer connect to local wireless networks?
[19:43] <rockstar92> it doesnt work
[19:43] <Blah> rockstar92: you have a wireless card right?
[19:43] <genii> Slylias: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rtl8187.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any     shows the package it's in (Hardy but same on Intrepid)
[19:43] <rockstar92> well yeah lol
[19:44] <Blah> rockstar92: haha.. sry have to check
[19:44] <dietre> rockstar92, for me it worked out of the box, with wpa2 and so on
[19:44] <dietre> rockstar92, it shouldn't be necessary
[19:44] <Chlorate> I have the Atheros 242x wireless card and it cannot detect any wireless networks. Any advice?
[19:44] <rockstar92> it works fine on regualar wifi but local and passworded ones just loop over and over...
[19:44] <Slylias> Why rtl8187.ko? What is the ko?
[19:45] <zamba> wehere can i find i8kutils?
[19:45] <zamba> where*
[19:45] <chuckmoney> Twerk^: it is but on the advanced level of desktop effects it has some minor slowdown at times.  A GMA945 is the least I would ever recommend for Compiz.  A GMA945 is roughly the same as a GeForce 6050 Go in terms of what it can actually do.  I would've got at least a GMA950 if one was available, but an EEE is a fairly standardized design and they don't offer minor upgrades like that.
[19:45] <zamba> it's gone in intrepid, as far as i can see?
[19:46] <Zoem> Where can I find the ip numbers of a free and opensource dns server?
[19:46] <devmon> Does anyone have experience with ldap home directories?
[19:46] <jim_p> what is the name of the package that contains the intel 3945 wireless module? i have been looking it all afternoon!
[19:46] <mr_polite> :;sigh::
[19:47] <Chlorate> I can't connect to my wireless router. Any help? I have an Atheros 424x wireless card on my laptop. I'm on intrepid
[19:47] <balle_> hey can i use something like deamon tools under wine to play games in .exe format?
[19:47] <Pe1o> you must install the game using wine and you will be able to play the .exe using wine ,  no need for deamon tools
[19:47] <chuckmoney> jim_p: not sure, maybe it's supported by madwifi.  if not madwifi, you could try linux-modules-restricted or kernel-modules-restricted, whichever it is.
[19:47]  * Pe1o might have missunderstood but what the heck 
[19:47] <jim_p> chuckmoney: let me look
[19:47] <qpdb> is there a tool to remove special chars from filenames in a directory?
[19:48] <HomesickA> Hi everyone - I get horizontal lines when viewing video - noticed the wsame with my friend who is also running hardy. Might be the nvidia drivers...not sure though
[19:48] <Pe1o> HomesickA, what player ?
[19:48] <HomesickA> All - VLC and totem
[19:48] <Pe1o> HomesickA,  open synaptic , and install all the gstreamer0,10 files , see if it gets better
[19:48] <chuckmoney> jim_p: if it's neither of those, I have no clue.  I have one system with an atheros card and another with a ralink and my desktop links through a wired router, so I can't help you if it's not one of those.  you could always use the windows driver via ndiswrapper, but beyond that, I'm all out.
[19:49] <javajeff> chuckmoney: grsync works fine.  I will just use it.  Thanks for your help though.
[19:49] <HomesickA> Pe1o : thank you i will try that
[19:49] <HomesickA> what do u guys think of Intrepid?
[19:49] <Korfox> t ein freak?
[19:49] <Korfox> sry - autofocus O.o
[19:50] <chuckmoney> javajeff: no problem.  feel free to ask anything else.  as my grandpa once told me, if nobody ever asked any questions we would still be painting cave walls.
[19:50] <jarco> does anyone knows a tool on ubuntu where i can make a video about my desktop and os? I mean i want to show my modified ubuntu to my firends
[19:50] <jim_p> chuckmoney: i am sure i found it a week ago! and by myself. it was somewhere in synaptic :|
[19:50] <Pe1o> HomesickA, bit disapointing,  several broken things that I would not have expected to be broken
[19:50] <jim_p> jarco: krecordmydesktop in istanbul
[19:50] <jim_p> *or
[19:50] <justauser> qpdb, a bash script?
[19:50] <bobdoss2> salut tout le monde
[19:50] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  Thanks!  I returned to linux after years away from it, so I am trying to relearn stuff.
[19:51] <jim_p> bobdoss2: salut a toi
[19:51] <HomesickA> Pe1o : I was thinking of moving to Intrepid...hmmm what u say is leaving me with some doubt. Thought these things are rigorously tested?
[19:51] <jarco> ok jim_p
[19:51] <jgonick> Pe1o: I still use Hardy but was thinking about upgrading.. would you or would you wait a little while?
[19:51] <chuckmoney> jarco: he's right, but use intanbul if you have gnome or krecorddesktop if you have KDE.  desktop recorders produce a lot of overhead when running and you don't want to have to load extra libs (for KDE or GNOME) if you don't have to while running them.
[19:52] <jarco> ok chuckmoney
[19:52] <Pe1o> HomesickA, so far i've found a bug with the murrine engine which makes it impossible for me to use certain themes,  and the gspca driver for webcam won'T compile anymore,  and isn'T included in the kernel either
[19:53] <zamba> i need a tool for controlling my fan in ubunbt
[19:53] <DEA7H> i want to run a command in the background, what modifiers/extra arguements do i need to do so?
[19:53] <balle_> Pelo, well if i cant install the game using the cd? but only have deamon tools
[19:53] <deadkode> DEA7H: : &
[19:53] <Pe1o> jgonick, it's not unusable,  just a couple of things that were surprisingly broken,  which kind of annoyed me,  i'm still running it
[19:53] <HomesickA> I don't know what u are talking about lol...but Im sure you can probably post that as a bug and they fix it? Thats what usually happens right?
[19:53] <DEA7H> deadkode: on the end?
[19:53] <deadkode> DEA7H: just append & on the end, like ./programname&
[19:53] <dietre> DEA7H, maybe also the "nohup" wrapper
[19:53] <Jordan_U> Changing the screen brightness via the brightness applet does nothing
[19:54] <deadkode> just like the goggles
[19:54] <Chlorate> I can't connect with my atheros 242x wireless card. It shows the drivers are there, but it won't detect anything. I'm on intrepid
[19:54] <Pe1o> HomesickA, they have both been posted , i'm just not 1337 enough to check that out first,  I just try and try and eventualy I run accross the bug report
[19:54] <HomesickA> lol thanks though Pe1o :)
[19:55] <chris1> anyone know if pine has been renamed? I cant install it over apt-get
[19:55] <scunizi> IGNORE
[19:55] <scunizi> sorry..
[19:55] <jim_p> !intel
[19:55] <jim_p> !iwl
[19:55]  * Pe1o ignores scunizi rigth back 
[19:55] <n8tuser> Chlorate-> how did you test if driver was loaded? what does iwconfig tells you?
[19:55] <DEA7H> dietre, deadkode :thanks
[19:55] <Pe1o> jimp__, what are you looking for ?
[19:56] <lappy> can anyone tall me where id find my computers hardware information like the exact video card i have ?
[19:56] <lappy> 8.10
[19:56] <jim_p> can someone please confirm that module wil3945 loads successfully on 8.10 without any extra package??
[19:56]  * scunizi goofed when setting up irssi .. sorry Pe1o 
[19:56] <dietre> lappy, try "lspci"
[19:56] <jelmer> chris1: hi
[19:56] <jim_p> lappy: lspci
[19:56] <jelmer> chris1: pine is non-free, afaik
[19:56] <chris1> jelmer: hi
[19:56] <Chlorate> n8tuser, that I didn't check. I just looked in admin -> drivers and it shows it is activated. I checked iwconfig and says no wireless extensions.
[19:56] <Pe1o> lappy,  terminal , lspci , or  alt_f2  gnome-device-manager
[19:56] <chris1> non-free
[19:56] <chris1> wack
[19:56] <lappy> thx
[19:56] <esperegu> anyone knows how to resize an encrypted lvm partition?
[19:57] <chris1> is there a program like webmin i can install on a unbuntu box over apt-get?
[19:57] <Pe1o> esperegu, try asking in #lvm
[19:57] <jim_p> esperegu: i dont think gparted can handle its encryption
[19:57] <rockstar92> ive seen all the wireless drivers that yall are talking about on the acer website look there
[19:57] <Pe1o> chris1, tell me what webmin does and I'll see if I know one
[19:57] <jim_p> chris1: what is webmin?
[19:57] <chris1> its a gui web based controll pannel
[19:57] <n8tuser> Chlorate-> sudo lsmod |grep 242
[19:58] <chris1> http://www.serverpowered.com/webmin.php
[19:58] <rebel_kid> this is interesting, when i click a workspace instead of switching to it, i select it. how do i get out of this and switch my work spaces ?
[19:58] <bakarat> errr, is there an option for disk encryption if i have the "regular" install cd?
[19:58] <Pe1o> chris1,  goto menu < system > admin > synaptic ,  and use the search engine for keywords
[19:58] <scunizi> chris1: Pelo  webmin can be installed but not via apt.. sets up apache and samba and ftp etc.
[19:58] <Slart> !webmin
[19:58] <chris1> agg
[19:58] <chris1> !ebox
[19:58] <Some_ux> night folks
[19:58] <chris1> dope
[19:58] <chris1> thanks
[19:58] <Chlorate> n8tuser, okay. Then what?
[19:58] <lappy> says no such directory
[19:58] <uman3> Hi, I just updated to ubuntu 8.10 using the alternate install cd. the problem is now all my network settings are messed up. for some reason in the network configuration utility there was only one connection and it was called ifdown (eth1) its like all my 3 connections were called ifdown eth1 and instead of using dhcp it gives me a 192.168.0.1 ip. i tried to edit the settings but it says "Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection upda
[19:58] <esperegu> Pe1o: thx
[19:59] <Pe1o> bakarat, you can type f6 from the cd boot menu and add extra options to the boot line if that's what you mean
[19:59] <n8tuser> Chlorate-> sudo lsmod |grep 242   what driver does it shows ..i assume your driver has a 242 name on it
[19:59] <jim_p> Slart: thank you!
[19:59] <Pe1o> Pelo
[19:59] <Pe1o> wht the f ? what happned to my nick
[19:59] <rebel_kid> anyone ever had the problem of not being able to switch workspaces when clicking them?
[19:59] <bakarat> Pe1o: lol
[19:59] <bakarat> Pe1o: and me trying to pel<tab> your name :p
[19:59] <bakarat> Pelo: ah better :>
[20:00] <dietre> rebel_kid, yes, with these 3d desktop things
[20:00] <Chlorate> n8tuser, It shows nothing.
[20:00] <HomesickA> Where are u guys from?
[20:00] <chris1> ebox: Depends: libapache-authcookie-perl but it is not installable wtf!?
[20:00] <Pelo> tells me my nick is registered,  I know it is , it's my damn nick
[20:00] <bakarat> Pelo: anywho, i downloaded the normal install cd for 8.10 (i usually use the alternative cd) but i can't find the option to encrypt my partitions upon installation
[20:00] <jim_p> HomesickA: i am from greece
[20:00] <rebel_kid> dietre, how do i get back to switching?
[20:00] <bakarat> Pelo: am i missing something?
[20:00] <n8tuser> Chlorate-> then maybe it is not loaded then
[20:00] <jim_p> HomesickA: you
[20:00] <jim_p> ?
[20:00] <Pelo> bakarat,  you might need to do that afterwards
[20:00] <Pelo> brb
[20:00] <HomesickA> ah sweet. Im from the country where Ubuntu was born
[20:00] <Chlorate> n8tuser, I have another set of drivers that detects wireless networks, but won't connect.
[20:01] <dietre> rebel_kid, i do not know enough about that, i deactivated compiz when i realized, that i do not need it ;)
[20:01] <dietre> sorry
[20:01] <bakarat> Pelo: hmm, can i still (with minimal effort) encrypt the entire partition? (/home & /var/log in this case)
[20:01] <uman3>  Hi, I just updated to ubuntu 8.10 using the alternate install cd. the problem is now all my network settings are messed up. for some reason in the network configuration utility there was only one connection and it was called ifdown (eth1) its like all my 3 connections were called ifdown eth1 and instead of using dhcp it gives me a 192.168.0.1 ip. i tried to edit the settings but it says "Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection upd
[20:01] <jim_p> Chlorate: try disabling network manager
[20:01] <n8tuser> Chlorate-> what other drivers you are speaking of?
[20:01] <bakarat> Pelo: i mean once it's set up n all
[20:01] <jim_p> uman3: network manager faults. remove it and install wicd
[20:01] <bryndza> Hi, i am search for FTP mirror maintainers, we need to change regional mirror to another host.
[20:01] <Pelo> bakarat, shoudl be simple enought,  but I've never done it
[20:01] <Pelo> !encryption | bakarat
[20:02] <Marsjanin> Pelo: anyway, thanks a lot for help.
[20:02] <Pelo> !truecrypt | bakarat
[20:02] <Pelo> Marsjanin, did it finaly work ?
[20:02] <Marsjanin> Nope. :(
[20:02] <Marsjanin> I tried also only gedit.
[20:02] <Pelo> Marsjanin, I find that puzzling,  I got it to work with both rhythmbox and amarok on my comp
[20:03] <Marsjanin> I found once again, simple echo > tofile works.
[20:03] <kri> hi if i want to list all files in a folder and subfolders with the extension .avi what do i type? (terminal).
[20:03] <bakarat> Pelo: i sort of meant the "normal" encryption that ubuntu uses upon installation (not sure which one it is)
[20:03] <dario__> I have a problem when rebooting or shutting down. When I do this the screen turns black with a blinking cursor and after a few minutes it prints "acpid exiting" and then continues the reboot or shutdown process. What can I do to solve this?
[20:03] <Pelo> bakarat, no idea
[20:03] <Pelo> bakarat,  you mgiht want to have a look in the forum for info on that  www.ubuntuforums.org
[20:03] <n8tuser> kri ls -la *.avi
[20:03] <Twerk^> bakarat: PGP
[20:03] <computer_> why cant i sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-plugins???????????
[20:04] <Pelo> computer_, are you sure that is the correct pacakge name ?
[20:04] <Marsjanin> Pelo: I think sth have to be f*cked up on my system, or so... :( I've got "export", and there I've got DISPLAY=":0"
[20:04] <computer_> i think so.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[20:04] <faryshta> Angelclaw - A queen of the night
[20:04] <faryshta>  She reigns from her throne of stone
[20:04] <faryshta>  Bringer of evil, a destroyer of souls
[20:04] <faryshta>  Do what thou wilt, lust is her excuse
[20:04] <faryshta>  
[20:04] <FloodBot3> faryshta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <dietre> kri, find . -name '*.avi'
[20:04] <faryshta> Marsjanin, what is your problem?
[20:04] <Pelo> Marsjanin,  no " around the :0
[20:04] <bakarat> Twerk^: my current problem is that i'm used to seeing an option to "encrypt" my partition upon installation, however i can not find that option in the 8.10 installation edition (mind you, i did not use the alternative version of the installer)
[20:04] <khaotik> what is the terminal command to change screen resolution on intrepid. i changed my settings to to large and now cant see the desktop on the screen
[20:05] <bimberi> computer_: because it's ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ??
[20:05] <Pelo> computer_, ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[20:05] <faryshta> Marsjanin, what happen on your comp?
[20:05] <bakarat> Twerk^: is it simply not present in the normal installation, or mus ti activate it somehow?
[20:05] <riddley> I just upgraded to 8.10 and now X doesn't spawn ssh-agent or whatever it used to do... tips?
[20:05] <Skiessi> is grub2 better in any way?
[20:05] <kri> n8tuser: ls: cannot access *avi: No such file or directory
[20:05] <dietre> khaotik, have a look at xrandr
[20:05] <n8tuser> kri  find . -name *.avi
[20:05] <j2daosh> !sources
[20:05] <ericholscher> does python-markdown come with the extensions?
[20:06] <KXY> I have a problem when rebooting or shutting down. When I do this the screen turns black with a blinking cursor and after a few minutes it prints "acpid exiting" and then continues the reboot or shutdown process. What can I do to solve this? This started happening when I switched to ubuntu 8.10
[20:06] <j2daosh> !easy-sources > j2daosh
[20:06] <dietre> kri, n8tuser: but with '' around the *.avi
[20:06] <Marsjanin> Pelo: export | grep "DISPLAY" returns:
[20:06] <j2daosh> ....
[20:06] <Marsjanin> declare -x DISPLAY=":0"
[20:06] <Twerk^> bakarat: ya i think you do need to use the alt discd
[20:06] <Pelo> Skiessi,  my opinion is , that if you need to ask that question, you shouldn'T be messing with your grub
[20:06] <Twerk^> alternate install disc rather
[20:06] <dietre> kri, n8tuser: else it gets expanded to the names in the current folder
[20:06] <bakarat> Twerk^: _crap_
[20:06] <Twerk^> i believe thats available with the text mode install
[20:06] <computer_> worked! :)
[20:06] <HomesickA> Jeez i thought I knew a bit of Ubuntu...after seeing you guys chat...i seriously need to learn more
[20:06] <Pelo> Marsjanin, but you do not want the " when you put the line in crontab
[20:07] <Marsjanin> Maybe I have to change that in that list? Is it maybe in some file?
[20:07] <Twerk^> ALTHOUGH i have not installed 8.10 so this is going from memory past
[20:07] <Marsjanin> Pelo: I removed these of cource
[20:07] <Juhaz> khaotik, xrandr if you want to change it on the fly, or remove ~/.gnome2/monitors.xml to reset the settings made by screen resolution capplet
[20:07] <Twerk^> but it should be available in the text mode install
[20:07] <kri> dietre: dont get the right command. :(
[20:07] <Marsjanin> I al;reaady tiried export && geedit
[20:07] <bakarat> Twerk^: gah, i already have the 8.10 & 8.10 server edition, now i need 8.10 alternate.... :D damn my download limits :'(
[20:07] <j2daosh> anyone know what the keyword for ubotu that gives the link to the easy sources page where you can add repos to your sources.lst?
[20:07] <khaotik> well i just need to reset it to its original 600 x 800
[20:08] <Marsjanin> export DISPLAY && gedit
[20:08] <Marsjanin> none works
[20:08] <scunizi> HomesickA: not to worry.. some things are specific to certain machines and other are only eclectic uses.. learn what you need when you need to and it will stick
[20:08] <Jatz> hey, apt is downloading really slowly, how do I change mirrors or something?
[20:08] <Twerk^> bakarat:  you could use the server disc and just install the desktop packages...
[20:08] <Pelo> Marsjanin, export DISPLAY=:0 && gedit
[20:08] <dietre> kri, try: find . -name '*.avi'
[20:08] <bakarat> Twerk^: a) doesn't the server have kernel optimizations? b) that would still require a crapload of downloads? :D
[20:08] <kri> but dietre its a folder with 6 subfolders and i want to list all .avi files
[20:09] <j2daosh> !compiz > j2daosh
[20:09] <Marsjanin> faryshta: Thannks for interesting; cron did not load any X-window program after "a big upgrade" (from 8.04 to 8.10 of course".
[20:09] <Twerk^> bakarat:  yes you would have to download many packages, and you would most likely want a different kernel, but who doesn't anyway :P
[20:09] <Rockj> What have I've done to pidgin when it closes at ALT+F4? :S
[20:09] <erUSUL> kri: find folder/ -name '*.avi'
[20:09] <Pelo> candy rots your teeth , eye candy rots your brain, say no to compiz
[20:09] <Rockj> before it minimized to tray.
[20:09] <dietre> kri, the command should do that for the current folder
[20:09] <dietre> (.)
[20:09]  * Pelo needs to make that into a script
[20:09] <Marsjanin> Pelo: I know, I know, that doesn't work... :(
[20:10] <Twerk^> lol@Pelo
[20:10] <dougb> i installed cups-pdf but when i go to print, it spools and then nothing happens.  where are the PDF's saved?
[20:10] <arief> hi
[20:10] <Pelo> Marsjanin, how many screens do you have ?
[20:10] <kri> actually the thing i want to do is to remove all the .avis
[20:10] <erUSUL> dougb: ~/PDF iirc
[20:10]  * Marsjanin have got only one screen
[20:10] <Jatz> like really, apt has been pulling packages in really slowly since yesterday
[20:10] <Jatz> it's ridiculous
[20:10]  * Marsjanin knows, that's not very much :D
[20:10] <Pelo> Marsjanin, i'm stumped,  there is a #cron channel you might want to ask in
[20:11] <unop> kri,   find folder/ -name '*.avi' -exec rm -v {} \;
[20:11] <dougb> erUSUL: i don't see the folder
[20:11] <dietre> dougb, maybe the location is set in the configuration file, which resides in /etc/
[20:11] <Marsjanin> Thanks again, I'll try to od that
[20:11] <Marsjanin> do^
[20:11] <erUSUL> dougb: well last time i used the cups pdf printer the files ended up there
[20:11] <devmon> Has anyone tried authenticating against ldap and received the error message with the problem "your home directory is listed as: /Users/janitor/' but it does not appear to exist." ?
[20:11] <erUSUL> dougb: i still have the folder and the files
[20:12] <noecksit> hello, i have some problem setting up a ldap client for my comps on campus
[20:12] <YeTr2> to use the DISPLAY variable, your xserver needs to be set to allow incomming tcp connections and you need to authorize other hosts to connect to the X server
[20:12] <kri> unop: yes but its a folder with 6 subfolders and 6 unpacked files (.avi) but i dont want to rm the samples
[20:12] <Marsjanin> Pelo: hmm, ANY collision to the NVIDIA drivers?
[20:12] <Marsjanin> Is that possible?
[20:12] <YeTr2> you can enable connections to your X server via gdmsetup if you are using gdm as your login manager.
[20:12] <balle_> where is the restricted drivers menu at in i ipex?
[20:12] <noecksit> i can do an ldap query using "ldapsearch -x" but unfortunately i cannot chown users and pam login doesn't seem to work
[20:12] <Slike> hi, i'm looking for a plain html version of the man pages. is there any way i can generate/download these?
[20:12] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: ^
[20:12] <Pelo> Marsjanin, not taht I know of, I'M using .177 for my g6800 card and I have two monitors
[20:12] <dietre> kri, in a bash prompt type: find folder -name '*.avi' | while read f; do rm "$f"; done
[20:13] <unop> kri, i'm not sure what you want to delete, the avis?  if so, the find command does it
[20:13] <Pelo> Marsjanin, and it's the same line I 've been using since I had only one monitor with my onboard  intel card, and using dapper 2 years ago
[20:13] <noecksit> can anyone help me debug furhter why this occurs?
[20:13] <dijital1> how do you shutdown X under ubuntu
[20:13] <YeTr2> after you allow tcp connections, you then use xhost as the user using the display to allow connections. `xhost +` will allow all hosts to connect. this can be considered a security risk because they can also see what you are doing.
[20:13] <dijital1> say if I want to change the runlevel where the system only boots to the console
[20:13] <dougb> erUSUL: i found out you have to make the PDF folder manually
[20:13] <Twerk^> dijital1: alt-ctrl-backspace
[20:13] <okidoki1> hi
[20:14] <Gnea> dijital1: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:14] <dijital1> and doest start the xserver
[20:14] <Cripps> I just created an iso using mkisofs, and to test it I mounted it using "mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /mnt/pnt/" and then checked out the contents of the mountpoint, unfortunately it seems to have eaten the directory, and everything is in the iso root ... is this a quirk of mount -o loop, or is it that I might have a bad flag with mkisofs?
[20:14] <erUSUL> dougb: sounds like a bug
[20:14] <Rockj> Anyone here had issues using pidgin, that it closes pidgin after doing alt+f4? it doesn't fall into tray?
[20:14] <dijital1> but when i reboot it'll start up again
[20:14] <erUSUL> !bugs | dougb
[20:14] <faryshta> Marsjanin,  can I recommend you install from liveCD? many people have problems with upgrade which are fixed with a instalation from 0
[20:14] <Twerk^> what gnea said.  or sudo killall gdm
[20:14] <Gnea> Twerk^: no, that'll just restart it too
[20:14] <dijital1> I guess I'm wondering how runlevels are handled under ubuntu
[20:14] <dougb> thanks, i'll file it
[20:14] <Marsjanin> YeTr2: I logon via gdm, default in Ubuntu, and I think I can't good understand you.
[20:15] <unop> Twerk^, killall is not suggested, it doesn't clean up the pid/lock files
[20:15] <n8tuser> Cripps-> is that how you created the iso  all files under /  ?
[20:15] <Gnea> dijital1: it used to use sysV, but switched to something else
[20:15] <Twerk^> ah yes my default runlevel is text. my bad
[20:15] <chrisorange2> just buyed ubuntu
[20:15] <erUSUL> dijital1: in debian ubuntu all runlevels are equal by default. also ubuntu switched to upstart from system V init
[20:15] <Gnea> I'd launch firefox right now, but I'm in the middle of upgrading to 8.10
[20:15] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: go to system -> administration -> login window
[20:15] <dijital1> gnea: yeah.. I'm trying to figure out what that something else is
[20:15] <genii> chrisorange2: Too bad, you could have had it for free
[20:15] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: that opens up gdmsetup
[20:15]  * Marsjanin goes there
[20:15] <maxxist_> chrisorance2 what do you mean buyed?  ubuntu is free
[20:15] <pw-toxic> Slart: i think i know the problem
[20:15] <dijital1> there's no /etc/rc.x directories
[20:16] <kri> i did remove it manually, ok question 2 i have a external drive with a fan on it can i controll the fan somehow?
[20:16] <Cripps> n8tuser, no, "it gobbled my directory" ... I had a "notes" dir with documentation under it.
[20:16] <chrisorange2> eh?
[20:16] <Gnea> dijital1: google it - ubuntu runlevel handling
[20:16] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: under security, uncheck 'deny tcp connections to the xserver'
[20:16] <genii> dijital1: Thats becase they are /etc/rcX.d
[20:16] <Twerk^> kri: not likely
[20:16] <pw-toxic> Slart: ubuntu doesnt know the software raid (i dont think i have an onboard raid controller ;) )    so he installed ubuntu on only one part of the raid1  ... so the operating system is unknown
[20:16] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: then restart your desktop.
[20:17] <__mork> hi. just upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04.1 on my hp pavilion dv9585. Problem: multimedia hardware button now sets the sound not by small steps but from 0% to 50% to 100%... any hint? thnks
[20:17] <maxxist_> chrisorange2 you should take it back.  you can download it legally for free.
[20:17] <Twerk^> me thinks chrisorange2 is a troll.
[20:17] <Marsjanin> What about cookies there?
[20:17] <Gnea> __mork: what program is the hardware button calling to change the volume?
[20:18] <Marsjanin> YeTr2: ^
[20:18] <chrisorange2> but i payed because it has office and so on...
[20:18] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: don't worry about it
[20:18] <YeTr2> Marsjanin: i doubt you use NFs
[20:18] <Marsjanin> OK
[20:18] <YeTr2> NFS
[20:18] <Twerk^> lol
[20:18] <Twerk^> office and so on
[20:18] <Gnea> chrisorange2: where did you buy it from?
[20:18] <awakebyjava> alright
[20:18] <Marsjanin> Need for speed? ^_^
[20:18] <maxxist_> chrisorange2 U R dumb.
[20:18] <chrisorange2> a friend
[20:18] <Gnea> maxxist_: stop.
[20:18] <awakebyjava> i need to get this installation of xubuntu to find the cdrom
[20:18] <maxxist_> sorry
[20:18] <Gnea> chrisorange2: how much did you give your friend?
[20:18] <Twerk^> don't feed the trolls.
[20:19] <ay^> An arm, and leg!
[20:19] <awakebyjava> its not right now, but i can find the info with dmesg | grep -i cd-rom
[20:19] <maxxist_> ay^ lol
[20:19] <__mork> Gnea: don't know!
[20:19] <awakebyjava> any ideas?
[20:19] <russell__> Great news about the x-fi driver from creative is now open source :) :)
[20:19] <Twerk^> russell_: really?  that is good news.
[20:19] <Marsjanin> So, I'll back in a minute.
[20:20] <Gnea> __mork: what happens if you run top, then up/down the volume with the button? do you see any program use more resources at the time as a result?
[20:20] <russell__> Twerk^: Yeah check the story out on Digg.com
[20:20] <chrisorange2> he, do you want buy my ubuntu?
[20:20] <Gnea> !de | chrisorange2
[20:20] <__mork> Gnea: just tried. I see mixer_applet2
[20:20] <awakebyjava> anyone? issue with the cdrom not reading during install
[20:20] <Gnea> __mork: sounds like something that's running on the top panel
[20:21] <__mork> Gnea: An osd appears on the screen, and th e hw buttons set the volume
[20:21] <__mork> Gnea: would you please rephrase?
[20:21] <Twerk^> russell_: interesting... cant wait till the jack guys get their hands on that
[20:21] <Gnea> __mork: try this - double-click on the volume control button on the top panel, you should get a new window
[20:22] <__mork> Gnea: yes, gnome-volume-control (?)
[20:23] <Gnea> __mork: alright - now when you up/down the volume, does the bar on the Master or PCM slide along with it?
[20:23] <awakebyjava> well the person who was helping me had to leave
[20:23] <awakebyjava> so now i am lost
[20:23] <Atax> Hi all, what would be a typicall directory for me to place my games in?
[20:24] <KXY> I have a problem when rebooting or shutting down. When I do this the screen turns black with a blinking cursor and after a few minutes it prints "acpid exiting" and then continues the reboot or shutdown process. What can I do to solve this? This started happening when I switched to ubuntu 8.10
[20:24] <Twerk^> atax: depends on the game
[20:24] <sfears> is it an issue that my wireless card shows up in iwconfig as eth2 instead of wlan2? could that be a reason i can't connect wirelessly?
[20:24] <__mork> Gnea: yes (btw thanks for helping me)
[20:24] <kane_f4> hi, I have slight problem with compiz.. sometimes the windows' toolbar gets blank (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdn0.png the window with the game and the upper terminal window..) does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[20:24] <chuckmoney> awakebyjava: unless your CD drive is an external drive and it is either losing power or underpowered (a problem I have often with my own USB DVD Burner) I have no clue why a CD would die during install.
[20:24] <Jeruvy> I see intrepid can connect my iPhone, how about iTunes? ;)
[20:24] <Atax> Well, lets say urban terror, where would i place it, which directory?
[20:24] <awakebyjava> chuckmoney: it isnt dying, the install doesnt detect it
[20:24] <jgonick> ﻿awakebyjava:  have you tried "nodma"
[20:25] <dietre> Atax, perhaps /opt ?
[20:25] <awakebyjava> jgonick: nodma is what? that is to say, no i havent.
[20:25] <Atax> Would t games be placed under /usr* somewhere?
[20:26] <mikutzu> j
[20:26] <KR-data> how can I know if someone is connected to my SSH-server?
[20:26] <robacarp> When I try and run the "Restricted Drivers Manager", I get the error message, "you need to install the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-15-server for this program to work" but that package doesn't seem to exist.  Any ideas?
[20:26] <mikutzu> O a venit si KR-data . Salut !
[20:26] <mikutzu> O a venit si Marsjanin . Salut !
[20:26] <Marsjanin> YeTr2: I'm back
[20:26] <__mork> Gnea: it seems my problem has already been addressed before (the problem in that case was a 20% stepping): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5076827
[20:26] <mikutzu> robacarp All nu e aici dar zis sa-l astepti ca vine el.....
[20:26] <bek1> hello
[20:26] <mikutzu> O a venit si bek1 . Salut !
[20:26] <mikutzu> Marsjanin mai bine nu te intorceai...........
[20:26] <dietre> awakebyjava, what is the problem? i didn't read it completely, but it sounds like one i had
[20:26] <mikutzu> No Problem __mork !
[20:26] <Gnea> __mork: no problem - not sure if there's some sort of hp configuration for your system or not..
[20:26] <FloodBot3> mikutzu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <Gnea> !fr | mikutzu
[20:26] <mikutzu> Wazup bek1
[20:26] <chuckmoney> awakebyjava: let jgonick help you with this one, but a key piece of info here is which installer you are using, the GUI from the LiveCD or the alternate CD console install?  if you're installing from the LiveCD GUI I'm personally kinda baffled since it does boot all the way in and then somehow the install fails, but often the alternate CD will be able to begin booting and then fail to load the drive.
[20:26] <mikutzu> Ce what ? n-auzi bine dietre ?
[20:26] <mikutzu> Ni 2 Puncte :D
[20:27] <awakebyjava> dietre: i have a problem during install
[20:27] <Jordan_U> robacarp: Is this a server or a desktop machine
[20:27] <robacarp> its running ubuntu server
[20:27] <Guinnesss> Hi Guys...amarok used to play my m4a files in hardy, but not in Intrepid, does anyone know what I need to install? I'd rather convert my music to ogg or so, but I need to use it on my ipod as well.
[20:27] <mikutzu> O a venit si sidney . Salut !
[20:27] <jgonick> ﻿awakebyjava: When you boot from the cd there is a option to pass a command.  You need to type ﻿ide=nodma  or nodma
[20:27] <mikutzu> Ce boti jgonick ? Termina cu prostiile !
[20:27] <mikutzu> O a venit si mbblue . Salut !
[20:27] <awakebyjava> jgonick: i am using the alternate cd for xubuntu
[20:27] <jim_p> goodnight guys
[20:27] <robacarp> Jordan_U: on hardy
[20:27] <mikutzu> yeah!
[20:27] <sidney> Can someone help with a sound problem
[20:28] <bek1> I have an ubuntu server 7.10 and I want to add a user
[20:28] <Gnea> !repeat | mikutzu
[20:28] <mikutzu> O a venit si vince_ . Salut !
[20:28] <dietre> awakebyjava, how far does it get?
[20:28] <zamba> can someone help me controlling the fans in ubuntu?
[20:28] <mikutzu> O a venit si ajonat . Salut !
[20:28] <Gnea> mikutzu: please stop that.
[20:28] <Marsjanin> WHat's that bot :/.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> robacarp: Do you have restricted enabled?
[20:28] <mikutzu> O a venit si Andymeows . Salut !
[20:28] <mikutzu> Ce boti Marsjanin ? Termina cu prostiile !
[20:28] <Pici> !it | mikutzu
[20:28] <mikutzu> ubottu canalu ala e plin de aurolaci !
[20:28] <mikutzu> Ce boti ubottu ? Termina cu prostiile !
[20:28] <mikutzu> O a venit si [GuS] . Salut !
[20:28] <FloodBot3> mikutzu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <bek1> that will have access+home only on second disk
[20:28] <mikutzu> bek1 Faci tranzactii cu accesse ? Chem garda financiara sa stii ! Plateste +TVA !
[20:28] <bobbiem> Can anyone help me install java for 8.04 LTS
[20:28] <Andymeows> is there an easy way to get a webcam to zoom?
[20:28] <linxeh> apt-get install sun-java6-jdk ?
[20:28] <mikutzu> linxeh All nu e aici dar zis sa-l astepti ca vine el.....
[20:29] <__mork> mikutzu isn't italian
[20:29] <robacarp> Jordan_U: yea, and I have the linux-restricted-modules package installed and its up to date
[20:29] <mikutzu> O a venit si gunavara . Salut !
[20:29] <mikutzu> robacarp All nu e aici dar zis sa-l astepti ca vine el.....
[20:29] <Gnea> !ops | mikutzu is flooding and won't join a french channel after typing in french.
[20:29] <awakebyjava> jgonick: right now i am at a menu, wherat i have options. I can get into a shell, but the option that keeps having problems is the detect and mount cdrom
[20:29] <mikutzu> awakebyjava , op nu mai avem le-am terminat pe toate......incearca mai tarziu !
[20:29] <mikutzu> Treaba-i buna ubottu !
[20:29] <bek1> not the first
[20:29] <FloodBot3> mikutzu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <mikutzu> O a venit si benj007 . Salut !
[20:29] <bek1> any idea?
[20:29] <benj007> hi all
[20:29] <robacarp> Gnea: I think its romanian, actually
[20:29] <lappy> im near giving up on my graphics drivers
[20:29] <gunavara> hi everybody
[20:29] <bobbiem> I need help installing java for 8.04
[20:29] <Gnea> robacarp: eh, whoever it is is obviously looking for trouble
[20:29] <rand0m> video driver problems with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200m series video card..... all sound and video is very very choppy and slow, and obv not working properly.... what do I do?  I'm a noob as of 8.04 and hardly figured that out
[20:30] <Cripps> hm ... it appears to be a mkisofs problem ... I tried mounting ym iso on a virtual machine, and I got the same behaviour.
[20:30] <awakebyjava> okay, crap, i really have to go to a meeting. thank you for your help all i will be back
[20:30] <Jordan_U> robacarp: linux-restricted-modules depends on the latest *generic* restricted modules available. Is there a reason you are using a server kernel?
[20:30] <robacarp> Gnea: true, is there a romanian channel? ubuntu-ro?
[20:30] <Marsjanin> Well, any ideas now, YeTr2?
[20:30] <Pici> robacarp: yes
[20:30] <djhash> !roman
[20:30] <Gnea> !ro
[20:30] <Gnea> robacarp: yup :)
[20:30] <KXY> Hello. I have a problem that no one seems to be able to solve. I have a problem when rebooting or shutting down. When I do this the screen turns black with a blinking cursor and after a few minutes it prints "acpid exiting" and then continues the reboot or shutdown process. What can I do to solve this? This started happening when I switched to ubuntu 8.10
[20:31] <bek1> is there anyone to answer
[20:31] <bek1> ?
[20:31] <WormDrink> hi
[20:31] <Gnea> robacarp: either way, it looked french, came out as romanian, and is coming from italy
[20:31] <robacarp> Jordan_U: well, the machine runs samba as a PDC
[20:31] <WormDrink> is there any way to install ubuntu over network ?
[20:31] <rand0m> bek1, : no i dont think so.. ive been here all day and it seems like it's just a bunch of users asking questions and VERY few experienced users answering simple questions
[20:31] <robacarp> Gnea: :-)...I copied it over to google translate to detect the romanian
[20:31] <Cripps> bek1, what was the question?
[20:31] <bek1> rand0m what's your problem
[20:31] <j2daosh> gnea romanian french and italian have alot of similarities :)
[20:31] <bek1> ?
[20:32] <KXY> So these experts only answer the simple questions?
[20:32] <rand0m> video driver problems with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200m series video card..... all sound and video is very very choppy and slow, and obv not working properly.... what do I do?  I'm a noob as of 8.04 and hardly figured that out
[20:32] <Marsjanin> YeTr2: ping? :]
[20:32] <jgonick> ﻿awakebyjava:   chuckmoney probably can help you better.  I know with older cd-rom disabling dma helps.  It will keep loosing the cd-rom unless you use ide=nodma on install. not exactly sure why, but I have had to do this on older computers.  Live CD will always work, but will ahng and loose the cd on install.
[20:32] <KR-data> firestarter seems to show a connection to my SSH-server, how can I know if he's in or just trying stupid things?
 is there anyone to answer
[20:32] <j2daosh> rand0m: what driver are you using?
[20:32] <j2daosh> KXY: whats the problem?
[20:32] <KXY> I have a problem when rebooting or shutting down. When I do this the screen turns black with a blinking cursor and after a few minutes it prints "acpid exiting" and then continues the reboot or shutdown process. What can I do to solve this? This started happening when I switched to ubuntu 8.10
[20:32] <Guinnesss> WormDrink: I know there is because a few weeks ago I heard about a guy who set up a plug and play network interface, where you plug in your pc and reboot and then ubuntu installs.
[20:32] <rand0m> j2daosh, not quite sure.. not even sure how to check
[20:32] <bek1> Cripps I have an ubuntu server 7.10 and I want to add a user with access+home only on the second disk not the first
[20:32] <chuckmoney> KXY: you could remove acpid from /etc/rc*.d/ (several different folders, but mainly rc5.d) so it wouldn't load on boot, but if you have a laptop this will disable the power management features
[20:33] <kri> if i suspect somone is in my system what process should i kill ?
[20:33] <Gnea> j2daosh, robacarp: ah okay, well i'm just a dumb yank, thanks :)
[20:33] <Jordan_U> robacarp: You don't need to use a server kernel to be a PDC, and if you are also using the computer as a desktop you probably want to go with the generic kernel
[20:33] <djhash> !netinstall
[20:33] <KXY> chuckmonkey is that a bad thing?
[20:33] <n8tuser> kri you can shutdown -h now
[20:33] <Guinnesss> Don't no how to do it though, try searching in google for "plug and play", ubuntu etc
[20:33] <j2daosh> KXY, well you know that standby feature... it wont work anymore
[20:33] <chris1> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' i get this when i do mysql sqldatabase < sqlfile.sql
[20:34] <KXY> No I use a desktop
[20:34] <j2daosh> chris1: -> #mysql
[20:34] <robacarp> Jordan_U: well...not to be difficult, but I'd rather not reinstall just because I want to use it as a desktop in addition to the PDC
[20:34] <chris1> ight
[20:34] <Gnea> __mork: i wonder if pulseaudio is getting in the way....
[20:34] <j2daosh> KXY, well then i guess it doesn't matter then
[20:34] <bek1> Cripps any idea?
[20:34] <Jordan_U> robacarp: You don't need to reinstall
[20:34] <robacarp> Jordan_U: is there a way to un-flag the ubuntu kernel out of server mode?
[20:34] <KXY> But my PC will shutdown or restart like it did in 8.04 right?
[20:34] <Cripps> bek1 you could create a new group for the user, and allow that group access to only the second disk (i.e. /dev/sdb if you're using scsi/sata)
[20:35] <chuckmoney> KXY: only if you have a laptop.  if you have a desktop then disabling acpid should be fine
[20:35] <loller> some has an experience with anjuta i can`t why it says Program '/home/...' is not a local file
[20:35] <Cripps> bek1, I need a few more minutes to think about exactly how to do that though.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> robacarp: AFAIK you can just install linux-generic
[20:35] <KXY> Ok thanks for the solution you guys
[20:35] <bek1> Cripps the user wouldn't see the /
[20:35] <djhash> chris1: you need to loginto mysql.. try mysql -u root -p PASSWORD -d database < sqlfile.sql
[20:35] <bek1> ?
[20:35] <HorizonXP> !mpd
[20:35] <j2daosh> KXY: it will shutdown the way it used to without the acpid "error"
[20:35] <KXY> I'll try it out in a few
[20:35] <HorizonXP> !musicplayerdaemon
[20:35] <KXY> Nice
[20:35] <chris1> djhash- thank you!
[20:35] <kri> n8tuser: haha very funny
[20:35] <HorizonXP> !sonata
[20:35] <dietre> chris1, give username and password parameters to the mysql command
[20:35] <Jordan_U> robacarp: Not sure if you need to do that to use restricted modules though
[20:35] <loller> maybe the right question is where is the directory where the programs are local
[20:36] <Pici> !fishing | HorizonXP
[20:36]  * KXY is away
[20:36] <__mork> Gnea: is there no way to find what happens after pressing the key?
[20:36] <djhash> bek1: everyone who is not root might be able to see the / but not modify it.. depends on group access permissions
[20:36] <robacarp> Jordan_U: me either. I can't decide if it makes sense to restrict the restricted modules to the generic kernel
[20:36] <gunavara> guys, where i can find some cool gnome desktop themes ?
[20:36] <n8tuser> kri-> no, not at all, if you suspect, something is amiss, you can shut your system or disconnect the network physically
[20:36] <Cripps> bek1, oh, so you're looking for a way to lock them into their own homedir ... check out google for "chroot" ... there are some really nifty tricks you can play with that.
[20:36] <HorizonXP> hey, i'm trying to set up MPD, and I can get it to work. I ran the mpd --create-db command, which seemed to work. but when i run sonata, no files are listed. any help?
[20:36] <belial------> aaa
[20:36] <j2daosh> loller: depends on what application your looking for
[20:36] <robacarp> Jordan_U: what is the difference between the generic and server kernels, do you know?
[20:36] <cyberix> My joypad doesn't work with a brand new Intrepid installation. It used to work on Intrepid and Hardy on another installation.
[20:37] <cyberix> The pad is able to move mouse
[20:37] <bek1> djhash I want to lock them on
[20:37] <Gnea> __mork: try disabling pulseaudio and see if that has an effect
[20:37] <Pici> HorizonXP: You need to modify your /etc/mpd.conf file to point at the directory where your music resides.
[20:37] <ilembitov> How can I restore default Ubuntu's menu structure?
[20:37] <bek1> Cripps thanks mate
[20:37] <cyberix> Maybe something is capturing the signal and doesn't let it through to games
[20:37] <__mork> Gnea: should I kill it?
[20:37] <cyberix> Any idea?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> robacarp: I know that the 32 bit server kernel can address > 4 GIG RAM, not sure what else is different
[20:37] <HorizonXP> Pici: i did that in ~/.mpdconf
[20:37] <Cripps> bek1, don't thank me yet ... there's lots of info to sift through first ;)
[20:37] <n8tuser> cyberix-> look at your older xorg.conf and look for the entry of  your joypad, then have same entry in the new 8.10
[20:37] <Pici> HorizonXP: /var/log/mpd/mpd.log will tell you if there any errors when sonata connects to mpd and cannot find the music.
[20:37] <__mork> Gnea: disregard my qstion
[20:37] <HorizonXP> Pici: is it necessary to change it in the root config too?
[20:37] <djhash> bek1: define lock? denying read access to / will probably break the user.. cause then they wont be able to run applications..
[20:37] <kri> n8tuser: ok i killed some processes i will reboot and then install ippl... good or what?
[20:38] <Gnea> __mork: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885437  <-- follow this guide, but don't install esound
[20:38] <bek1> Cripps don't worry I'll figure it out ;)
[20:38] <cyberix> n8tuser: That might be tricky as I don't have an xorg.conf on the old system
[20:38] <Pici> HorizonXP: No, that should be enough.
[20:38] <n8tuser> kri-> what are you trying to protect?
[20:38] <Jordan_U> robacarp: In intrepid there seems to be a linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-server package but no linux-restricted-modules-server
[20:38] <Pici> HorizonXP: Make sure that the user that is running the mpd service has rights to the directory that you are storing your music in.
[20:38] <n8tuser> cyberix-> well, hope you learned something, keeping an older working system around instead of just an outright upgrade
[20:38] <rand0m> video driver problems with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200m series video card..... all sound and video is very very choppy and slow, and obv not working properly.... what do I do?  I'm a noob as of 8.04 and hardly figured that out
[20:39] <bek1> djhash but I don't want to run apps
[20:39] <HorizonXP> Pici: in my ~/.mpd folder, there's an mpd.db file that has all of the data for my music populated in it
[20:39] <kri> n8tuser: i dont want some idiot messing with me
[20:39] <HorizonXP> pici: so presumably, the mpd --create-db command worked
[20:39] <kri> somone have controll and messing with my fan on my external drive
[20:39] <robacarp> Jordan_U: how are you searching this?  Can I look through the gutsy packages for a linux-restricted pack?
[20:39] <Gnea> !ati | rand0m
[20:39] <n8tuser> kri-> i already gave you advise, disconnect network physically
[20:39] <__mork> Gnea: killing pulseaudio stops the audio, but the volume still increases by steps of 50%
[20:39] <Gnea> rand0m: have you read that site?
[20:39] <bek1> djhash this user won't run apps
[20:39] <Pici> HorizonXP: Did you check that log file for errors?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> robacarp: apt-cache search
[20:40] <rand0m> Gnea,  no i haven't yet, thank you
[20:40] <Cripps> djhash, if the directories containing binaries were exported, then they could be mounted in ~/ ... that way the user would have access to apps, but they would still be locked into their homedir.
[20:40] <HorizonXP> Pici: all it says is Avahi: Service 'Music Player' successfully establish
[20:40] <bek1> djhash: Cripps gave me an idea, I have also another one with quota. Thanks a lot.
[20:40] <Cripps> mind you ... that almost defeats the purpose ;)
[20:41] <HorizonXP> Pici: everytime i do /etc/init.d/mpd restart, it prints that in the log file
[20:41] <Oprtz> what is the name of default Network Manager in ubuntu 8.10 ? i need to install it
[20:41] <robacarp> yea, there doesn't appear to be anything in there for server.  `apt-cache search linux-restricted | grep server` gives no hits
[20:41] <cyberix> n8tuser: I have it around, but it doesn't help.
[20:41] <rodrigo__> #tagua
[20:41] <n8tuser> Oprtz-> same, maybe you can try wicd
[20:41] <__mork> Gnea: the link you wrote seems not to have to do with pulseaudio (my issue neither)
[20:41] <cyberix> n8tuser: Because it doesn't have xorg.conf
[20:41] <n8tuser> cyberix-> it will help if you can compare the older working xorg.conf and your newer one, see if any differences
[20:42] <Gnea> __mork: are you sure you pasted the correct URL?
[20:42] <giuseppe_> sometimes on my notebook display becomes black and neither mouse or keyboard work... anyone can help me?
[20:42] <cyberix> n8tuser: It doesn't have xorg.conf
[20:42] <Rusty0918> Hey folks
[20:42] <n8tuser> cyberix-> i has no X windows? or gui?
[20:42] <Oprtz> n8tuser:  i installed wicd, and it works good for me, just want to know if i install default network manager, will it replace the wicd ? without damaging the internet ?
[20:42] <Gnea> HOWTO: Fix all PulseAudio-related issues in 2 minutes  <-- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885437
[20:42] <cyberix> n8tuser: It has. It just doesn't have the configuration file.
[20:42] <Rusty0918> I've just started to try to use Ubuntu...I'm attempting to put Ubuntu on a separate hard disk away from my Windows Vista hard disk.
[20:42] <cyberix> n8tuser: I guess xorg works without it these days
[20:42] <n8tuser> Oprtz-> i dont think you can damage the internet much :P  but supposedly wicd is the up and coming one
[20:43] <HorizonXP> Pici: no ideas eh?
[20:43] <Rusty0918> When I initially installed it with the Grub loader, it wouldn't load either operating system
[20:43] <Gnea> __mork: maybe there's another sound configuration in the system menus that can handle it...
[20:43] <n8tuser> cyberix-> nope, it always need that config file xorg.conf
[20:43] <st0rm> Hi
[20:43] <Oprtz> n8tuser: ahh, i already have wind :)
[20:43] <Rusty0918> I had to fix the Vista booter with the boot record repair thingy
[20:43] <robacarp> Jordan_U: if I pull in the linux-generic kernel, is that going to update the system to the latest kernel or pull the kernel version that I am using, but without the kernel flag?
[20:43] <n8tuser> Oprtz-> then you are set...good to go
[20:43]  * Rusty0918 wonders how this works
[20:44] <Rusty0918> Sorry, I'm new here
[20:44] <balle_> is there a way to mount image files like deamon tools in wine?=
[20:44] <__mork> Gnea: i killed pulseaudio (i didn't uninstall it), but, without output of sound, the volume still increases/decreases by a step 50%
[20:44] <MexTux> Hello! I'm setting up a new FTP server. I don't have any idea about what local_umask=022 does mean. Does anybody know? My OS is Ubuntu 8.04
[20:44] <n8tuser> MexTux-> man mask
[20:44] <Oprtz> n8tuser: just curious to use 3g in the default network manaer, and wicd dont have 3g
[20:44] <linnoob007> I just installed a fresh copy of intrepid and immediately after running updates and nothing else I get the error system-tools-backends failed to start. First I got a crash report but now it just says an error has occurred. How can I fix this?
[20:45] <robacarp> balle_: are you trying to mount an iso under linux?
[20:45] <n8tuser> MexTux oop there is none for mask nor umask..google for it instead
[20:45] <ardchoille> How do I turn off alsa permanently ?
[20:45] <n8tuser> Oprtz-> 3g?
[20:45] <cyberix> n8tuser: .
[20:45] <cyberix> cyberix@bunnypump:~$ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:45] <cyberix> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[20:45] <balle_> robcarp: no, its an image file like .cue or something, i'm trying to play a game
[20:45] <Oprtz> 3g mobile internet
[20:45] <Jordan_U> robacarp: It will install the latest generic kernel available for gutsy
[20:45] <mc__> hi! I have installed ubuntu on my macbook but now I cant boot from it!
[20:45] <Gnea> __mork: i'm wondering if the system needs to be restarted before it will take effect properly
[20:45] <n8tuser> cyberix-> in the new one? you got to have it to have an X windows
[20:45] <mc__> the installation went fine, i used the whole disk
[20:45] <Marsjanin> Hello
[20:46] <Jordan_U> mc__: What version of Ubuntu?
[20:46] <__mork> Gnea: I think that pressing the hw button triggers a bios event catched by alsa-mixer gnome-mixer (if exists) and somewhere there should be  a value (in gconf?) that says to the system how much should it increase the volume
[20:46] <cyberix> n8tuser: In the old one
[20:46] <__mork> Gnea: good point
[20:46] <cyberix> n8tuser: It works perfectly
[20:46] <mc__> Jordan_U, 8.10
[20:46] <Gnea> __mork: i believe you are correct
[20:46] <n8tuser> Oprtz-> the network managers has nothing to do with a 3G its the driver using it does
[20:46] <rwat> I have a thinkpad R40, about 5-6 years old, with a broken screen and I want to use it for a computer in my bedroom. Because the screen is no use (and a bit small) I want to use it only with an external monitor. Does anyone know if you can make X11 use primarily the external screen?
[20:46] <Jordan_U> mc__: Did you install with the LiveCD?
[20:46] <Gnea> __mork: it could be ACPI
[20:46] <mc__> Jordan_U, yes
[20:46] <scunizi> Help.. After installing a new motherboard I'm getting Busy Box on boot to the HD and with the live cd after choosing "Try Ubuntu without any....."..  any help would be appriciated
[20:46] <n8tuser> cyberix-> yeah in the old one you also have xorg.conf
[20:46] <Gnea> __mork: what's the model of your hp again?
[20:46] <Rusty0918> I'm usinv the latest Ubunto 8.10
[20:46] <robacarp> balle_: I think you have to do a bin2iso conversion on the cue/bin pair and get an iso out first, which can then me mounted to an empty folder
[20:46] <Jordan_U> mc__: What happens when you try to boot Ubuntu?
[20:47] <riddley> how do I turn off the icon for Universal Access Preferences?
[20:47] <Rusty0918> Anyways, I've got three internal hard drives.
[20:47] <_Zeus_> riddley: system > preferences > main menu
[20:47] <robacarp> Jordan_U: thats what I figured. thanks for the advice
[20:47] <mc__> Jordan_U, well I dont have the option to boot ubuntu at all
[20:47] <balle_> robacarp: ok thx i'm gonna look into that
[20:47] <n8tuser> cyberix-> anyhow google for the kind of pad you have and xorg.conf
[20:47] <Rusty0918> All SATA
[20:47] <Rusty0918> 500.0 GB (Windows Vista)
[20:47] <__mork> dv9585el
[20:47] <mc__> my notebook does only boot from cd
[20:47] <Oprtz> n8tuser:  i want that wicd , dont have the 3G option
[20:47] <Gnea> scunizi: see if the livecd boots
[20:47] <__mork> Gnea: dv9585el
[20:47] <Rusty0918> 80.0 GB (where Linux will go)
[20:47] <robacarp> balle_: google "linux mount cue"
[20:47] <scunizi> Gnea: I just mentioned that it happens even with the live cd
[20:47] <riddley> _Zeus_, thanks
[20:47] <Rusty0918> And of course an older 300.0 GB Hard drive (from previous machine)
[20:47] <balle_> robacarp: great thx man
[20:48] <n8tuser> Oprtz-> 3g option is on the modem, and the driver for your wifi controls that, not wicd nor n-m.. otherthan it just enables the interfaces
[20:48] <robacarp> balle_: np, good luck
[20:48] <Jordan_U> mc__: Ahh, you have to either hold down the option key at boot ( and choose windows, because Apple refuses to acknowledged that any other Operating system besides OSX and windows exists ) or install rEFIt which will give you a boot menu
[20:48] <riddley> _Zeus_, that turns it off in the menu, how do I get it out of my panel?
[20:48] <balle_> robacarp: it appears that CDemu does exactly what i want to do!
[20:48] <bobbiem> i need help. i just upgraded to 8.04 and i am trying to get java to work. anyone have any ideas
[20:48] <_Zeus_> riddley: wait, what do you mean the panel?>
[20:48] <mc__> Jordan_U, there is no windows option at boot up
[20:48] <_Zeus_> riddley: right click and say delete from panel?
[20:48] <Oprtz> n8tuser: thanks for the info
[20:48] <riddley> _Zeus_, it's in my notification area
[20:48] <Jordan_U>  mc__: Did you hold down the option key?
[20:48] <riddley> _Zeus_, and there is no right-click option
[20:48] <robacarp> balle_: sweet!  I'll keep that in mind
[20:49] <_Zeus_> riddley: do you have something running?
[20:49] <n8tuser> bobbiem-> we have plenty of ideas, tell us what you did
[20:49] <GodfatherofEire> How would one go about installing the linux drivers for the Realtek RTL8185L?
[20:49] <rand0m> Gnea, : honestly, that guide is pretty  much just confusing to me lol
[20:49] <HorizonXP> hey, if I have run mpd --create-db correctly, then why would mpc stats show that I have no music?
[20:49] <riddley> _Zeus_, not intentionally... I just upgraded from 8.04
[20:49] <rand0m> "if this is this, do that.. if that's this, do this!"  i just dont follow
[20:49] <mc__> Jordan_U, yeah
[20:49] <Gnea> scunizi: d'oh, sorry didn't see that right away... tried booting with the splash off?
[20:49] <GodfatherofEire> And not through ndiswrapper, Realtek has their own support for Linux, I just cant quite figure out how to compile it
[20:49] <_Zeus_> riddley: okay.  right clicking is no good?
[20:49] <mc__> Jordan_U, I can only boot from the cd
[20:49] <Gnea> scunizi: or can you see the dmesg?
[20:49] <_Zeus_> riddley: have you logged out and back in?
[20:49] <riddley> _Zeus_, if I click it, I get a preferences window, but none of the prefs are "make this stupid icon go away" :)
[20:49] <darkvertex> ﻿balle_: you can also try cdemu, it supports cue and mds among others
[20:49] <Marsjanin> Pelo: You just talked about #cron channel, arent' You? Hmm, on what server?!
[20:50] <scunizi> Gnea: no haven't tried with splash off. how do I do that.. ?
[20:50] <balle_> darkvertex: :) it is the one i'm checking out now
[20:50] <Jordan_U> mc__: Do you see the Ubuntu partition in disk utility or from the Ubuntu LiveCD ?
[20:50] <scunizi> Gnea: can't get to anyplace to see dmesg..
[20:50] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: you can start by running lspci and checking for what the sound card reports itself as, then google that
[20:50] <riddley> _Zeus_, I removed something from the list of startup stuff in Session, but that list seems to get ignored entirely
[20:50] <GodfatherofEire> Robacarp, its a wireless card
[20:51] <GodfatherofEire> Not a sound card
[20:51] <Gnea> scunizi: press F6 and backspace over "quiet splash"
[20:51] <ljuwaidah> I'm fucking bored
[20:51] <ljuwaidah> sorry for the language
[20:51] <Gnea> scunizi: ...that's when the cd boots up
[20:51] <scunizi> Gnea: ah.. trying now with safe graphics mode.
[20:51] <bobbiem> n8tuser,  i thought that maybe i with the upgrade it would help with java. i put in sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[20:51] <_Zeus_> riddley: hmm
[20:51] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: lol...right.  same deal, but swap sound for wifi.  freudian slip
[20:52] <ljuwaidah> later
[20:52] <scunizi> Gnea: now trying with splash off
[20:52] <GodfatherofEire> No problem, but Robacarp, I have the drivers, but I just dont know exactly how to set it up, because I have to configure it, its not in a .deb file
[20:52] <fallore> Is there a way to make the "Not connected? Printer 'printer' may not be connected" popup go away? It just won't stop...
[20:52] <bobbiem> n8tuser, it told me that the file exists, but now what?
[20:53] <scunizi> Gnea: looks more encouraging..
[20:53] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: I see.  what form are th drivers in?  is there a file called "configure"?
[20:53] <scunizi> Gnea: I spoke too soon.. busy box again
[20:53] <Gnea> scunizi: do the kernel messages say anything about any errors?
[20:53] <Gnea> __mork: i'm really baffled
[20:54] <DB24> is there a guide for installing vmware 5.x tools on ubuntu 8.10 guest ?
[20:54] <chuckmoney> wow...I go send 2 emails and now I can't find my last message...spooky.  anyhow, I'm back for a few minutes
[20:54] <GodfatherofEire> Robacarp: nope. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/68988/
[20:55] <scunizi> Gnea: yes on ata4 "failed to identify (i/o error, err_mask=0x44)... but things are actually still rolling..
[20:55] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: whats in the readme?
[20:55] <Gnea> scunizi: what's plugged into ata4?
[20:55] <__mork> Gnea: found something interesting here: /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/media-keys
[20:55] <__mork> Gnea: in gconf-editor
[20:56] <HorizonXP> Pici: I had to modify it in /etc/mpd.conf. No idea why that's required, but it works
[20:56] <scunizi> Gnea: also sda:<4> Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[20:56] <Jordan_U> mc__: Do you see the Ubuntu partition in disk utility or from the Ubuntu LiveCD ?
[20:56] <Gnea> scunizi: sr is of no consequence
[20:56] <Pici> HorizonXP: Weird, the manpage said it would look in your home first.
[20:56] <DB24> is there a guide for installing vmware 5.x tools on ubuntu 8.10 guest ?
[20:56] <mc__> Jordan_U, yes it does see it
[20:57] <HorizonXP> Pici: yeah, i'd prefer to set it up that way
[20:57] <HorizonXP> let me keep hunting
[20:57] <chuckmoney> DB24: not that I'm aware of.  I think the only way to do that is to compile them from source on the guest
[20:57] <GodfatherofEire> Robacarp: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/68992/
[20:57] <DB24> k
[20:57] <DB24> chuckmoney: any guides for that/
[20:58] <loco> Hey guys, I've installed ubuntu 8.10 on my pendrive, using it as hd, but grub does'nt seem to work, it goes right to a Minimal BASH-like blablabla and it's not showing the menu, someone knows what I'm doing wrong?
[20:58] <scunizi> Gnea: now it just seems stuck after "sd 6:0:1:0 Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[20:58] <n8tuser> bobbiem-> your symlink command does not have a destination
[20:58] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: did you read the section on "Installation"? at line 33
[20:58] <fallore> loco: the blah blah blah part would be helpful
[20:58] <chuckmoney> DB24: not really.  I immagine it consists of getting the source package for generic *NIX vmware tools (they come with vmware workstation for linux) and then just ./configure, make, sudo make install.
[20:58] <n8tuser> bobbiem-> re-read the tutorial that you read that from
[20:58] <Gnea> scunizi: could be a bad dvd or hard drive cable
[20:59] <scunizi> Gnea: new on both.
[20:59] <Gnea> scunizi: could still be bad.
[20:59] <GodfatherofEire> robacarp: Yes, I did, but exactly where should the original archive extract to so that it can install properly?
[20:59] <GodfatherofEire> Like, what dir?
[20:59] <neuton> hi all...I have a question about ubuntu server
[20:59] <neuton> is this the correct forum room?
[20:59] <mc__> Jordan_U, do you think it was a mistake that I created a new partition table?
[20:59] <loco> fallore it's like this: [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ] and there is a grub> and the prompt
[20:59] <Jordan_U> mc__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook suggests making sure grub is set to install to /dev/sda
[20:59] <__mork> another question: how to learn about the new quit button???
[20:59] <scunizi> Gnea: yea.. I've got others to try.. if that's not it what's next?
[20:59] <Sajuta> neuton: Yes it is.
[21:00] <KXY> chuckmonkey that solution you gave me changed only one thing. "acpid exiting" doesn't get printed anymore but my PC still hangs for like 2 min or so. lol
[21:00] <__mork> i mean in the panel of gnome shipped with 8.10
[21:00] <chuckmoney> DB24: it should be a standard install from source deal.  the only difference is maybe it will require that you skip ./configure - typically vmware just distributes their .o files instead of the actual .c source code so it is still distro-dependant but this way they don't show you their actual source.
[21:00] <Skrot-> Hi, how can I find which resources are used by a kernel module (or vice versa)?
[21:00] <Jatz> Hey, I'm trying to get sound to work after resume on my Aspire one, as in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#AUDIO . but it isn't working
[21:00] <unitedpotsmokers> they said, if we use ubuntu on laptop, it will make ours hot.. is it true?
[21:00] <neuton> ok I setup a server for my use and followed this guide for torrentflux-b4rt http://empireofmine.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-setup-web-based-bittorrent.html
[21:00] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire:  It shouldn't matter.  if you extract the original archive to your ~ then from inside that dir just run ./makedrv to build it
[21:00] <Alan> How do I stop pulseaudio being launched by my user?  I have it set up to start with the system at the moment because I use MPD and I don't want my music to stop when I restart X...
[21:00] <Jatz> sudo m-a a-i alsa doesn't work, it says building of alsa failed
[21:01] <Jatz> hello?
[21:01] <n8tuser> Skrot--> some modules are loaded as needed, what exactly are you looking for?
[21:01] <Alan> The problem is that then I end up with 2 instances, one of which has no sound device access
[21:01] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: when that finishes, it looks like you can then do ./wlan0up to load the driver into the kernel
[21:01] <chuckmoney> unitedpotsmokers: no.  Ubuntu with improper CPU fan control won't make your computer any hotter than Windows with improper CPU fan control.
[21:01] <neuton> however I can't find where apt-get installed transmission-cli? I followed the guide but its not where the guide says
[21:01] <__mork> Gnea: for the volume question: I found http://gnome-settings-daemon.sourcearchive.com/documentation/2.22.2.1/gsd-media-keys-manager_8c-source.html that there is a comment about volume step (line 60)
[21:01] <GodfatherofEire> Did that, robacarp, but when I go to use wlan0up, it says theres no file
[21:01] <Jordan_U> __mork: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/233
[21:01] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks chuckmoney ... but
[21:01] <Skrot-> n8tuser: nfsd is in use even though nfs-kernel-server is stopped, and ps aux | grep -i nfs reveals nothing.
[21:01] <Jatz> this is stupid, I can't get sound to work.
[21:02] <neuton> so how can I find where the file was installed to in the command prompt of server?
[21:02] <GodfatherofEire> robacarp: Under the ieee80211 folder, says some are missing
[21:02] <n8tuser> Skrot--> how did you determine nfsd is in use?
[21:02] <Skrot-> n8tuser: sudo rmmod nfsd
[21:02] <chuckmoney> unitedpotsmokers: If it gets hot under ubuntu and not under windows, it means you have an error with acpid.  Errors with acpid are exceptionally rare since ACPI is pretty universal now, basically, yes, it might overheat, but if it overheats under Ubuntu it is just as likely to do so with windows.  It's not an OS-related problem.
[21:03] <n8tuser> Skrot--> a module loaded does not use much memory
[21:03] <n8tuser> lest it is running
[21:03] <Skrot-> n8tuser: The problem is I need to reload the module and I don't want to reboot the server.
[21:03] <burkesbythebay> Can anyone tell me the name of a good Tetris type game for ubuntu
[21:03] <dietre> neuton, perhaps: dpkg-query -S transmission-cli
[21:03] <KXY> ACPID is a pain in the ass
[21:03] <unitedpotsmokers> chuckmoney, : can u explain to me why, when i open system log viewer, i got this alert " unable to turn cooling system device 'on' " im using intrepid ibex.. pls help
[21:03] <Jatz> hellooo. MAH SOUND DUN WORK. when I try to rebuild alsa with sudo m-a a-i alsa, it says it failed.
[21:03] <Skrot-> n8tuser: So I want to remove the module and load it again, thus I need to kill whatever uses it :)
[21:03] <neuton> ok ;et me try that ty
[21:03] <dietre> neuton, no, better would be: dpkg-query -L transmission-cli
[21:03] <n8tuser> Skrot--> kernel modules are finicky, sometimes you can not just unload it and reload
[21:04] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: what files does it say are missing? have you tried running it as sudo?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> burkesbythebay: Ubuntu comes with gnometris
[21:04] <n8tuser> Skrot--> so your recourse is only to reboot
[21:04] <Skrot-> n8tuser: well, any way to find the processes that are using it?
[21:04] <__mork> can someone interpret for me line 694 here http://gnome-settings-daemon.sourcearchive.com/documentation/2.22.2.1/gsd-media-keys-manager_8c-source.html ? it seems that I can write some key in gconf-editor...
[21:04] <chuckmoney> KXY: yes, it is, when it fails.  Problem is your issue is one in a million - it usually works.  I have run Ubuntu on 11 computers (mostly laptops) from 7 manufacturers and acpid is just about the only system service that hasn't ever failed for me.
[21:04] <neuton> hmm its only showing me that it put transmission in /usr/share/doc?
[21:04] <__mork> Jordan_U: thanks
[21:04] <n8tuser> Skrot if it was not showing on ps -aux   then not sure how
[21:04] <Jordan_U> __mork: np
[21:04] <Skrot-> n8tuser: no go (for now), the server is remote and uses a encryption password at boot :-)
[21:04] <Jatz> I hate to repete myself, but nobody has told me to stfu yet.
[21:04] <unitedpotsmokers> yeah ACPI... but i dont know whats acpi actually... how to fix this problem..
[21:04] <KXY> chuckmonkey: Lucky you :p
[21:04] <neuton> ok that did it
[21:04]  * Jatz sound doesn't work, m-a says alsa failed to build
[21:05] <Kolin871> Hi, I can't get my sound working on my laptop, does anybody know what shell I do?
[21:05] <chris1> anyone run torrentflux on unbuntu server i need sum helpz..
[21:05] <Jatz> chris1: I do
[21:05] <neuton> so its in the right place like the guide said, but in the torrentflux setup it still shows a red dot like it can't find it?
[21:05] <unitedpotsmokers> pls reply when u ready
[21:05] <n8tuser> Skrot--> well its tuff, you dont have a secretary at remote to just press buttons? :P
[21:05] <chuckmoney> unitedpotsmokers: sounds like it can't figure out which /dev/* device is your CPU or case fan.  I'd double-check and be sure it's not a hardware problem if you have a desktop.  Sometimes the fan plug to the motherboard is easy to knock out by mistake when you upgrade RAM, etc.
[21:05] <neuton> lol I am also asking for help on the same thing chris1
[21:06] <GodfatherofEire> robacarp: here's the feedback from the terminal http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/69002/
[21:06] <Gnea> __mork: nice.
[21:06] <Skrot-> n8tuser: hehe, no ;)
[21:06] <Jatz> neuton, chris1, I dp
[21:06] <scunizi> Gnea: can you plug an older (ie slower) sata drive into the newer faster sata connector?
[21:06] <Jatz> *do
[21:06] <Jatz> can anyone even frakking hear me? I'm ident'd
[21:06] <computer> hi i have installed ubuntustudio-desktop how do i go back or switch between the desktops?
[21:06] <djhash> !repeat | Jatz
[21:06] <n8tuser> Skrot--> you can remove the grub password and then reboot, then put it back if it rebooted okay?
[21:06] <__mork> Gnea: nice, but... still stuck here
[21:06] <neuton> Jatz I followed that guide I posted here http://empireofmine.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-setup-web-based-bittorrent.html....however the dot is still red for transmission
[21:06] <djhash> !patience | Jatz
[21:06] <chuckmoney> unitedpotsmokers: if the issue isn't hardware (if you have a laptop it probably isn't) then there's two options.  either it can't identify the fan device, or more than likely, it's a false alarm.
[21:06] <Zikiti> Hello all
[21:06] <Gnea> scunizi: yeah - not sure how well it works with a newer cord tho
[21:06] <Zikiti> I'm new to this
[21:07] <Skrot-> n8tuser: *encryption*, not grub. / won't be mounted without it :)
[21:07] <Gnea> __mork: oh - i misunderstood
[21:07] <Jatz> ubottu: I'm well awell that people are volunteers.
[21:07] <n8tuser> Skrot--> ahh okay, yeah thats a tuff one
[21:07] <Skrot-> indeed
[21:07] <scunizi> Gnea: I'll check the bios settings to see if there's a way to make any changes to it.
[21:07] <shadewin1> I'm wondering if I should try 64-bit Ubuntu or 32-bit. I had problems with openSUSE 64-bit. no Java WebStart. any opinions?
[21:07] <chuckmoney> unitedpotsmokers: An ASUS EEE 701, for example, will not report the fan speed to Ubuntu without a custom driver that's also used to speed up or slow down the processor
[21:07] <Zikiti> I want to set up a webserver. I want to access the http doc folder via ftp. i use vsftp
[21:07] <Jatz> It's just nobody's aknowledged my existence till now
[21:07] <OddlotX4> Anyone know a terminal script to convert a .cue/.bin image files to .iso?
[21:07] <chuckmoney> unitedpotsmokers: so if you feel air comming out of the fan vent at all, it's working, and system monitor just can't read it
[21:08] <Zikiti> what is the best way to go about doing this
[21:08] <Zikiti> ?
[21:08] <dietre> shadewin1, choose 32 bit until you need more than 4 gb of ram
[21:08] <n8tuser> Skrot--> umm doesnt modprobe have a  unload and replace option? i cant recall
[21:08] <OddlotX4> Or something to mount the image.
[21:08] <KXY> what was your question Jatz? I'm no expert but I'm curious
[21:08] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: okay.  I think you need to run the wlan0up script from the directory where the ieee80211 folder is.  eg, cd into the unpacked archive and run the script as ./wlan0up instead of putting the whole path in
[21:08] <teratoma> how do i change what xorg driver I am using ?
[21:08] <djhash> Jatz: be patient.. ask your question and wait.. if no one knows the answer no one will answer..
[21:08] <Zikiti> So9?
[21:08] <Zikiti> Any takers?
[21:08] <Gnea> Zikiti: any decent ftp server should work - proftpd or vsftpd
[21:08] <dietre> shadewin1, smaller binaries, smaller code, better cache hit ratio, ...
[21:08] <shadewin1> dietre: great, I'll do that. thanks.
[21:08] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: if that doesn't work, and the files exist in that directory (did you check?), then the script is probably just broken.
[21:09] <dietre> shadewin1, i am not expert at it, but that are the arguments i know
[21:09] <Skrot-> n8tuser: no
[21:09] <Jatz> KXY: I'm trying to get sound to work after resume on my aspire one, as in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#AUDIO
[21:09] <Jatz> but when I try to build alsa, it fails
[21:09] <Zikiti> understood but do I create another user to ftp into taht folder?
[21:09] <n8tuser> Skrot  like modprobe -r  ?
[21:09] <ardchoille> How do I turn off alsa permanently ?
[21:09] <Zikiti> Is there an ideal way to set up a remote webserver?
[21:09] <patmaddox> hi, I'm trying to get ubuntu set up on my macbook pro.  It's having trouble connecting to a wep-protected network...I've installed Wicd which I hoped would help, but it's not working.  It seems to get through the auth fine, tries to obtain an ip address and can't, and then is not connected.  any ideas?
[21:09] <dharanpdeepak> help me
[21:09] <GodfatherofEire> Robacarp, same message, and I checked the folder, should I check the sub-archives?
[21:09] <chuckmoney> Jatz: it sounds like you're either missing a library or don't have build-essential from apt installed
[21:09] <KXY> Hmm Jatz that does sound like a difficult one
[21:09] <Spreadsheet> hello
[21:10] <dharanpdeepak> hello
[21:10] <Sajuta> ardchoille: Not a good idea to do that. Why do you want to?
[21:10] <Spreadsheet> im not sure how i should install the firmware for my wireless card (b43)
[21:10] <Jatz> chuckmoney: m-a installs build-essentially
[21:10] <Spreadsheet> i am on Ibex
[21:10] <Spreadsheet> what should i do?
[21:10] <dharanpdeepak> i wish to contribute to ubuntu development
[21:10] <ardchoille> Sajuta: Well rebooting/shutting down causes the machine to hang at "shutting down alsa" and I don't need sound.
[21:10] <Gnea> __mork: bingo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335780
[21:10] <dharanpdeepak> how can i get started
[21:10] <n8tuser> Spreadsheet-> they should be located in  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/
[21:10] <Spreadsheet> dharanpdeepak: :)
[21:10] <Spreadsheet> k
[21:10] <Spreadsheet> hmm
[21:11] <BleSS> any guide to configure microphone? I'm tried of trying it without get it
[21:11] <zamba> dharanpdeepak: check #ubuntu-dev
[21:11] <pythoneles> hi guys, i'm trying to come up with a script for ffmpeg to convert multiple files. What can i do for it understand spaces in outputfiles ? here's what i'm doing: for i in *.flv; do ffmpeg -i "$i" `basename "$i" flv`mp4; done
[21:11] <Gnea> __mork: /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/volume_step
[21:11] <Spreadsheet> n8tuser: i dont see it
[21:11] <Spreadsheet> in /lib/firmware i see a directory that is
[21:11] <n8tuser> Spreadsheet-> they should be located in  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/  <-- install here
[21:11] <neuton> this is the error I am getting when pointing the client in torrentflux to transmission /usr/bin/transmissioncli Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli
[21:11] <Spreadsheet> oh
[21:11] <rand0m> video driver problems with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200m series video card..... all sound and video is very very choppy and slow, and obv not working properly.... what do I do?  I'm a noob as of 8.04 and hardly figured that out.  ive tried following forum instructions & what not but im having no luck
[21:11] <csilk> any idea wht pbuilder would fail with this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/69003/
[21:11] <csilk> *why
[21:11] <Spreadsheet> so should i do that in a terminal?
[21:11] <djhash> Jatz: do you get any errors other than it just failed to build?
[21:11] <BleSS> pythoneles: better question it in #linux or #bash
[21:12] <pythoneles> BleSS, alright
[21:12] <Jatz> djhash: I can view the log build file
[21:12] <chuckmoney> Jatz: well...no idea then.  I imagine if it requires another library to build it would tell you.  Many of the ubuntu docs run on the theory that you know you have to have build-essential so I was just checking.
[21:12] <gavagai> I am doing to dual boot.  First i'm going to do a fresh windows install.  Right now i am partitioning my drive.  The first partition is fat 16, 78 megs.  can i delete this or do i need to keep it?  this must be the mbr for windows i guess
[21:12] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: no.  the script isn't looking for any archives.  I'd re-run the makedrv script (again from the local directory: ./makedrv) and make sure that it is exiting successfully and generates no errors.  You might have had a corrupt archive initially
[21:12] <djhash> Jatz: that would be a good place to start.. and if you can.. pastebin the log
[21:12] <Gnea> __mork: the sad part is, i don't see a volume_step in mine :/ but they have a lot of other things up there
[21:12] <computer> anyone? what if i have ubuntustudio-desktop and xubuntu-desktop how do i switch between them?
[21:13] <SlimeyPete> use the login manager
[21:13] <deftone> Looking to buy the HP DV5-1125NR and it's got the ATI RADEON HD 3200 graphics RS780M. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hardy supports this chip??
[21:13] <ardchoille> computer: choose the one you want at the log in screen
[21:13] <csilk> any idea why pbuilder would fail with this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/69003/
[21:13] <SlimeyPete> there should be a menu in there which will let you chose a session
[21:13] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, robacarp, I'll try re-dl'ing it
[21:13] <BleSS> any guide to configure microphone?
[21:14] <computer> ok?
[21:14] <computer> i will try
[21:14] <fallore> i've been having a bunch of problem with sound. i had the same problems in 8.04 and still have them in 8.10. my sound, every so often and until i reboot, simply stops working. rhythmbox gives me a playback error, testing sound with the sound manager gives me an error, etc. i don't know what to do :/.
[21:14] <computer> thnx
[21:14] <rand0m> video driver problems with ATI RADEON XPRESS 200m series video card..... all sound and video is very very choppy and slow, and obv not working properly.... what do I do?  I'm a noob as of 8.04 and hardly figured that out.  ive tried following forum instructions & what not but im having no luck
[21:14] <robacarp> GodfatherofEire: yea, and if that doesn't fix it, the scripts themselves might be broken
[21:14] <Rioting_pacifist> i can write to my ntfs partition no problem and its definatly there but when i try and read it using ntfsread for does it simply doesnt show the files
[21:14] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[21:14] <dharanpdeepak> #ubuntu-dev
[21:14] <rand0m> fallore, : i had the same issue.. i think it's the media drivers and/or java plugins (and them conflicting with eachother)
[21:14] <chuckmoney> fallore: sounds like your sound daemon is dying and then not restarting on its own.
[21:15] <dharanpdeepak> join #ubuntu-dev
[21:15] <rand0m> i haven't found a fix
[21:15] <Jatz> djhash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/69005/ the end of it
[21:15] <__mork> Gnea: I do have a volume_step but killing and restarting gnome_settings_daemon don't do anything
[21:15] <chuckmoney> fallore: check to see (while it's working) if you have alsa, pulseaudio, or esd running, then when it dies, check to see if that process is still running
[21:15] <Rioting_pacifist> fallore: its either puseaudio or alsa
[21:15] <awakebyjava> hello everyone
[21:15] <awakebyjava> i have a problem
[21:15] <rand0m> FUCK UBUNTU!  NOTHING BUT FUCKING PROBLEMS WITH SIMPLE SHIT!
[21:15] <fallore> chuckmoney: should i restart my computer to see if it's working?
[21:16] <dietre> lol
[21:16] <chuckmoney> fallore: if it's not still running, you can run something like /etc/init.d/alsa restart and it will work again
[21:16] <djhash> Jatz: the entire thing would be more helpful.. that is not helpful
[21:16] <awakebyjava> my problem has to do with the cdrom on install
[21:16] <djhash> !wtf | rand0
[21:16] <djhash> random: ^
[21:16] <fallore> chuckmoney: no such dir
[21:16] <Grey_Loki> djhash, too late with the tab ;)
[21:16] <chuckmoney> fallore: yeah, restart it now and see which of those three processes is running, then wait until your sound dies and see which process goes away
[21:16] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed??
[21:16] <fallore> k brb chuckmoney. i'm probably going to need more help :/
[21:16] <chuckmoney> np
[21:17] <djhash> Grey_Loki: yeah.. no wonder i even got the second one wrong..lol
[21:17] <Rioting_pacifist> hmm and to think i was fairly sure i could solve randoms problem
[21:17] <djhash> !lol | djhash
[21:17] <awakebyjava> i am using the xubuntu alternate install cd, and it hangs on detecting and mounting the cdrom
[21:17] <csilk> any idea why pbuilder would fail with this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/69003/
[21:17] <Jatz> djhash: it's in curses, I can't copy it all XD
[21:17] <awakebyjava> i can find the cd-rom drive using dmesg | grep -i cd-rom
[21:17] <__mork> Gnea: it could turn out that is a xorg issue... in /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/keybindings/volume_down the value is XF86AudioLowerVolume
[21:18] <patmaddox> anyone here been able to get a macbook pro to connect to a wep-protected wireless network?  I can connect to one that's not protected fine, but as soon as there's encryption it fails
[21:18] <awakebyjava> it has taken me to the main menu, and i have access a shell from there
[21:18] <neuton> anyone have any ideas on the transmission error?
[21:18] <awakebyjava> as it has not installed i dont have access to many commands, but i can do a few things, like find info on the drive
[21:18] <Gnea> __mork: i'm really not sure at this point... and I have to get going
[21:18] <Rioting_pacifist> awakebyjava: im not familliar with the problem all i know is that the alternate cd uses the debian installer so poking around debain mailing lists may get you an answere faster than the *buntu forums
[21:19] <csilk> any idea why pbuilder would fail with this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/69003/
[21:19] <intheloopback> hi!
[21:19] <awakebyjava> rioting_pacifist: thank you, i will try that
[21:19] <Grey_Loki> !repeat | csilk
[21:19] <fallore> chuckmoney: okay, rebooted and sound is working
[21:19] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed??
[21:20] <chris1> neuton.. use 2.3
[21:20] <Rioting_pacifist> csilk: do you have chroot working
[21:20] <__mork> Gnea: thanks ! bye!
[21:21] <chuckmoney> fallore: ok, good, now you need to load a terminal
[21:21] <fallore> chuckmoney: done
[21:21] <Rioting_pacifist> and are you running it as root (or used setuid on chroot to get it runnable by a normal user)
[21:21] <neuton> chris1 2.3 of which package? and how do I make sure I can get it?
[21:21] <fallore> chuckmoney: i also checked my processes and pulseaudio is running, is that what you wanted to know?
[21:21] <robacarp> Jordan_U: funny...I pulled in the generic kernel and rebooted to load it and all it says is "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers" .... curiosity killed the cat
[21:22] <Jordan_U> robacarp: :)
[21:22] <chuckmoney> fallore: yes
[21:22] <Rioting_pacifist> patmaddox: what wireless card do macbooks use? i think wep is handeled fairly well, if you know enough you could try manually connecting using iwconfig (after killing NetworkManager) to see if its a networkmanager problem
[21:22] <djhash> Jatz: "pastebinit < logfile"
[21:22] <think_linux> does anyone use backtrack here?
[21:22] <fallore> chuckmoney: cool :] so what do i do from here to insure that my problem doesn't continue?
[21:23] <chuckmoney> fallore: now, whenever your sound dies again, check to see if pulseaudio is still running
[21:23] <fallore> chuckmoney: do you know what i should do if it is or isnt'?
[21:23] <robacarp> Jordan_U: see...I was sure I had an ATI card in this machine. turns out its just an intel integrated thingy
[21:23] <ronhalfdanr> anyone know how to diagnose wehat's wrong with file browser?
[21:23] <djhash> Jatz: you might need to "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:23] <chuckmoney> fallore: and if it's not running, you have your problem, and you'll need to uninstall then reinstall the various pulseaudio packages
[21:23] <Jordan_U> patmaddox: My macbook pro works fine with WEP and WPA
[21:23] <uman3> Hi. i just updated to ubuntu 8.10 using the alternate install cd and when i click on the top right corner of the screen to change users, i noticed a strange user which i never created called "qos". is this normal? i mean there is also a new guest account which is new but i know thats supposed to be there. what about a user called "qos"? thanks
[21:24] <dietre> ronhalfdanr, with which? and whats the problem?
[21:24] <fallore> chuckmoney: it seems like if that would fix it then updating from 8.04 to 8.10 would have fixed it
[21:24] <chuckmoney> fallore: if your sound dies and it is still running, then the sound daemon you're using is something else and pulseaudio is just sitting there being worthless
[21:24] <patmaddox> Jordan_U: hrm, mine doesn't :)  I have no clue how to go about diagnosing it.  I've googled a bunch but haven't found something that works so far
[21:24] <BleSS> any guide to configure microphone?
[21:24] <awakebyjava> well, i am not getting anywhere with the debian stuff, so does anyone else have an idea?
[21:24] <ronhalfdanr> dietre: 8.1, file browser freezes ate root, home and user folders
[21:24] <neuton> chris1 2.3 of which package? and how do I make sure I can get it?
[21:24] <Jordan_U> patmaddox: What model macbook pro?
[21:24] <patmaddox> it's kind of surprising because everything else seems to work okay...the sound and video is fine, the special keys (volume & brightness adjust are okay)
[21:25] <uman3> how do i install nvidia drivers on 8.10? i got a prompt to do so the first time i booted into u 8.10 but couldnt download them cuz i had no itnernet. thanks
[21:25] <patmaddox> Jordan_U: 17", I think it's v2.1
[21:25] <fallore> chuckmoney: is it insightful to know that when my sound died last i tried the different sound options (alsa, oss, pulseaudio) in the preferences > sound tab and all of them gave me errors and none worked?
[21:25] <gamesiano> somebody knows sites with free hosting that offers free shell accounts with space?
[21:25] <uman3>  Hi. i just updated to ubuntu 8.10 using the alternate install cd and when i click on the top right corner of the screen to change users, i noticed a strange user which i never created called "qos". is this normal? i mean there is also a new guest account which is new but i know thats supposed to be there. what about a user called "qos"? thanks
[21:25] <chuckmoney> fallore: somewhat.  the issue might be a problem with your actual soundcard.  is the system a desktop or a laptop?
[21:25] <dietre> ronhalfdanr, do you mean nautilus?
[21:25] <fallore> uman3: it seems as if quantum of solace has taken over your computer.
[21:26] <fallore> chuckmoney: desktop. i think it's onboard sound, as well.
[21:26] <uman3> hehe, no , seriously can anyone help me fallore
[21:26] <fallore> uman3: i'm sure someone can but i can't 8-)
[21:26] <ronhalfdanr> dietre:  nautilus and the places tab on the top bar both freeze
[21:26] <uman3>  Hi. i just updated to ubuntu 8.10 using the alternate install cd and when i click on the top right corner of the screen to change users, i noticed a strange user which i never created called "qos". is this normal? i mean there is also a new guest account which is new but i know thats supposed to be there. what about a user called "qos"? thanks
[21:26] <guntbert> !repeat | uman3
[21:26] <shadewin1> how much would I need for the root partition?
[21:27] <scunizi> Gnea: looks like my motherboard booting issue was due to the kernel in 8.04.. Boots fine to 8.10 but with LARGE graphics.. usable though.
[21:27] <chuckmoney> fallore: well...ok, do you have a motherboard backplate installed or is there blank space in the back of the case around the ports?  I'm thinking maybe the connected has been jittered loose.
[21:27] <Rioting_pacifist> shadewin1: it depends how much stuff you plan on installing
[21:27] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed??
[21:27] <Pelo> uman3, guest account is notghing to worry about , it's a new thing so ppl who visite you can go on the internet and stuff without password,  qos , I don't know about
[21:27] <Jordan_U> patmaddox: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:27] <fallore> chuckmoney: wouldn't this happen in windows too if that was the case?
[21:27] <shadewin1> Rioting_pacifist: not too much
[21:27] <evilspawn4> hey guys whenever i try to open my cd rom drive it closes on me is there anyway to fix that? because ive screwed up several cds forgetting it did that
[21:27] <Pelo> uman3,  if qos bothers you , just go in system > admin > users and delete it
[21:27] <shadewin1> Rioting_pacifist: I'm using LVM so i'm not fucked if it's too little
[21:28] <Flannel> shadewin1: Please watch your language.
[21:28] <chuckmoney> fallore: indeed it would, but if you still have alsa/oss/esd/pulseaudio when your sound dies, the issue isn't anything specific to linux either, thus points to hardware
[21:28] <Rioting_pacifist> shadewin1: well i have hardy running using 5.6G but ive had it fill up the whole 6G before
[21:28] <shadewin1> Flannel: the f-word is not allowed in here?
[21:28] <patmaddox> Jordan_U: 8.10
[21:28] <Flannel> shadewin1: profanity is not allowed in here.  This is a family friendly channel.
[21:28] <evilspawn4> can anyone help me with my cd not wanting to spit out disk on the first try?
[21:28] <Pingviller25> ok, I got one of the wierdest problems ever.. I just moved an mp3 to trashcan, and it started playing it instead, and I can't find any media player playing it and I can't turn the bugger off... why in the world would it do that??
[21:28] <shadewin1> Flannel: I see. very american.
[21:29] <Pelo> shadewin1, neither are the q word the g word or anyword between h and o
[21:29] <KoFish> Is there any application for finding out what libraries a application depends on? when you only have the source
[21:29] <dietre> ronhalfdanr, sounds to me like a network file system not reacting. but i may be totally wrong
[21:29] <dietre> sorry
[21:29] <actionfigure_> anyone use ubuntu an a g3?  please help.. :)
[21:29] <shadewin1> is 20GB too much for root?
[21:29] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed??
[21:29] <djhash> Jatz: you still there?
[21:29] <Flannel> shadewin1: No, thats just about right.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> !anyone | actionfigure_
[21:29] <brmj> I am also having trouble with the proprietary nvidia drivers in 8.10. The logs say the nvidia kernel module fails to load. Any suggestions?
[21:29] <Rioting_pacifist> shadewin1: yes, i doubt it could get above 10G with normal use
[21:29] <Pelo> shadewin1, yes,   I use 10 gig for / and I have a lot of room to spare
[21:30] <actionfigure_> ubottu, ok
[21:30] <ronhalfdanr> got me dietre but if I can't fix it so I can try to get into some folders and get two major apps runnign I won;t be long for ubuntu because dual boot is too inefficient
[21:30] <shadewin1> because I'm just going to have /home and root
[21:30] <pw-toxic> hi, is there a reason not to install 64bit ubuntu if you have an amd64 ?
[21:30] <fallore> chuckmoney: alright. thanks for your help, i'll check to see if it's running next time my sound dies. thanks for your help
[21:30] <actionfigure_> Question: I installed Ubuntu but when i restart the computer it shuts itself off
[21:30] <Jatz> djhash: yeah, sorry
[21:30] <Pelo> shadewin1, you'll need  a swap as well,  mine is  10 gig for / , 2x ram for swap and the rest for /home
[21:30] <actionfigure_> it wont even load at all.....
[21:31] <shadewin1> Pelo: I know, I didn't mention it just
[21:31] <chuckmoney> fallore: if it happens before maybe 10PM tonight stop back in here and I may help you more
[21:31] <^Cheeky> hello iam trying to convert MKV format to .. .m2ts file format .. and i have a hard time trying to use ffmpeg to do this can ant one please help me ?
[21:31] <Pelo> actionfigure_,  try the .169 one instead of the .177
[21:31] <evilspawn4> does anyone know how i can keep my cd rom from closing when i try to pull a disk out?
[21:31] <dietre> ronhalfdanr, sorry, i cannot follow you... (?)
[21:31] <Rioting_pacifist> 2x ram is outdated, more than 1G swap is pointless
[21:31] <actionfigure_> Pelo, i dont understand
[21:31] <Pelo> ^Cheeky,  you can probably do it in avidemux
[21:31] <Flannel> Rioting_pacifist: Unless you intend to hibernate.
[21:32] <russ> woohooo!! got the creative driver working on my system :) so f**ing happy
[21:32] <^Cheeky> Pelo, never use that .. is int in apt-get ?
[21:32] <dietre> Rioting_pacifist, depends on, i think... some use tmpfs and want to much files in there to get into swap
[21:32] <Pelo> actionfigure_, you're the one with the nvidia driver that fails to load ? use the restricted driver from the  admin menu,  if the .177 doesn't work for you  try the .169
[21:32] <ronhalfdanr> dietre: in other words, if I cannot after more than a week find a way to diagnose and fix the problem so I can try to get to major win apps running then I will drop ubuntu and go back to XP much as I loathe it because I need to actually get work done
[21:32] <Flannel> !language | russ
[21:32] <brmj> evilspawn4: I think I saw something about that in the 8.10 release notes.
[21:32] <Pelo> ^Cheeky, yes
[21:32] <Rioting_pacifist> Flannel: you still only need 1x ram if your doing that
[21:32] <russ> So sorry
[21:33] <Rioting_pacifist> dietre: surely using >1GB of swap will slow the computer to be unusable anyway
[21:33] <evilspawn4> brmj: ok thanks ill go check that out (btw am i makeing the red text right?)
[21:33] <Pelo> ^Cheeky, at least you might be able to get it from mkv to some more managable formant like mpeg or some such
[21:33] <^Cheeky> Pelo, avidemux - a free video editor - gtk version ?
[21:33] <chuckmoney> shadewin1: FYI my EEE 901 had / on a 4GB drive and I only use 77% of that with a very large set of apps in GNOME.  the only thing not in that 4GB is /home, so yes, 10GB is plenty so long as /home is elsewhere for any modern *NIX system.
[21:33] <actionfigure_> Pelo, but it wont load at all....i did a fresh install...then it wants to restart but thats where it shutsoff
[21:33] <dietre> ronhalfdanr, i am sorry, that i cannot help....
[21:33] <Pelo> ^Cheeky, yes
[21:33] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed??
[21:33] <russ> I need help getting my dual monitors to work properly: any linux ninjas on can lend me a hand?
[21:33] <ronhalfdanr> dietre: from here and the forum it seems nobody can help
[21:33] <bobbiem> n8tuser, Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate. now what should i do?
[21:33] <reddevil_> chi parla italiano?
[21:34] <Crazyguy> russ, try stating the exact problem you have
[21:34] <^Cheeky> Pelo, well its a 720 p movie file i want to convert and play it  on my ps3 ... via external hdd
[21:34] <lucaregini> i am italian reddevl
[21:34] <Flannel> Rioting_pacifist: Yeah
[21:34] <guntbert> !it | reddevil_
[21:34] <lucaregini> but it's not nice to speak italian in an international channel
[21:34] <Pelo> actionfigure_, which is why I 'm suggestion you try the previous one , but if you need to get rid of the current one so you can boot,   boot the recovery mode and use the fix x option
[21:34] <brmj> evilspawn4: you were, but that last one was orange. Assuming I understood the question, that is.
[21:34] <lucaregini> who
[21:34] <russ> Crazyguy: I have 2 monitors and an nvidia gfx card. only one monitor is working
[21:34] <uman3> Hi. how do i install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.10? i was prompted to dowload and isntall them the first time i booted up but didnt have an active internet connection. thanks
[21:34] <Rioting_pacifist> my computer was completely screwed this morning, but now it just works, is there a way to test all my hardware from within linux, or should i use the UBCD to test it bit by bit?
[21:35] <ronhalfdanr> I mean I can live without games, wifi and a few other things but something as basic as being able to manipulate my files needs to work and work 100%
[21:35] <Jatz> djhash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/69009/
[21:35] <Pelo> ^Cheeky, I'M not that familiar with all the ins and outs of video format , you'll have to figure that part out on your own
[21:35] <Jatz> that should be the whole log
[21:35] <actionfigure_> Pelo, thats beyond my understanding.... i dont see how i can choose my driver if ubuntu does that for me ...and since i cant log in at all..
[21:35] <dietre> ronhalfdanr, it does, normally also with nautilus. at least with a shell
[21:35] <Rioting_pacifist> i can write to my ntfs partition no problem and its definatly there but when i try and read it using ntfsread for does it simply doesnt show the files
[21:35] <brmj> evilspawn4:"CD eject problems After ejecting a CD tray containing a disc, the tray will be immediately retracted, making it difficult to remove the disc (bug 283316). This can be worked around by pressing the eject button again before the disc is fully mounted, after which it will stay open. We expect to fix this in a post-release update. "
[21:35] <Rioting_pacifist> oops erm ignore that last 1 its a seperate problem im having
[21:36] <^Cheeky> Pelo, thats why i know the conversion needs to be done to .m2ts format :( from MKV
[21:36] <uman3> Hi. how do i install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.10? i was prompted to download and install them the first time i booted up but didnt have an active internet connection. thanks everyone
[21:36] <bobbiem>  I need help. i have been trying to get java installed on here for a few days. Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate. now what should i do?
[21:36] <Pelo> actionfigure_, from the boot menu,  you select the recovery mode  you will get a menu , select  fix X server that will alllow you to boot the computer into graphic mode
[21:36] <orangey> hey all.
[21:36] <orangey> I'm having a problem with pulseaudio in that it always starts a particular program - xine in this case - as muted
[21:37] <Pelo> ^Cheeky, I think there is an #FFmpeg channel
[21:37] <orangey> how do I get pulseaudio to "remember" the setting
[21:37] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[21:37] <uman3> Hi. how do i install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.10? i was prompted to dowload and isntall them the first time i booted up but didnt have an active internet connection. thanks guys
[21:37] <actionfigure_> Pelo, so if the computer and get from fix x server to graphic mode ..why doesnt it just go to graphic mode in the first place..
[21:37] <gamesiano> where can i find free hosting for ubuntu with shell accounts?
[21:37] <russ> Crazyguy: any suggestions on getting my 2 monitors to work?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> uman3: System > Administration > Hardware
[21:38] <eraggo> uman3: what kind of problem you have then?
[21:38] <^Cheeky> Pelo, thank you
[21:38] <eraggo> :D
[21:38] <kane77> how can I download mirror of webpage with wget?
[21:38] <eraggo> someone was faster :(
[21:38] <actionfigure_> Pelo, ill have to try that soon...thanks for your help :)  i greatly appreciate it
[21:38] <uman3> jordan_U  i tried that, but it just says searching for drivers, and stays there forever
[21:38] <djhash> Jatz: where did you get the instructions from.. seems like something wrong with that source code
[21:38] <Pelo> actionfigure_, fix x tries to fix the xorg.conf file so you can boot , you might not always want to do that , there may be other thing you might want to try,  you might not always want the comp to mess us your xorg.conf file automaticaly
[21:39] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[21:39] <Chlorate> When I connect to a wifi network on my Atheros AR242x wireless card it doesn't load anything. I have two drivers and blacklisted one of them. Any ideas?
[21:39] <Jatz> djhash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#AUDIO:
[21:39] <Jordan_U> neuton: "Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli" Can you please rephrase that?
[21:40] <wng-> Is anyone aware of any PCI-E sound cards that work w/ Linux
[21:40] <neuton> thats what the error says in torrentflux-b4rt
[21:40] <russ> wng: creative is now supported
[21:40] <Pelo> wng-, might want to ask in #hardware
[21:40] <wng-> russ: Creative doesn't make too many PCI-E cards actually, and the ones they do make aren't supported
[21:40] <wng-> Pelo: thanks, will do
[21:41] <russ> wng: my x -fi extrreme game card is now working with the new driver
[21:41] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[21:41] <wng-> russ: is it PCI-E or PCI? I thought extreme-gamer is only PCI
[21:41] <russ> wng: I could be wrong
[21:42] <wng-> I think the only X-fi thats PCI-E is Xtreme Audio which _does not_ work with the new drivers
[21:42] <Chlorate> When I try to connect to a password protected wi fi network it prompts me to type in my keyring password. What does that mean?
[21:42] <computer> what is the uninstall command in ubuntu? apt-get uninstall?
[21:42] <Jatz> computer: apt-get remove
[21:42] <pw-> have there been any possible solutions to the popular "laptop speakers not cutting off when headphones plugged in" problem
[21:42] <computer> thnx
[21:42] <wng-> pw-: updating my kernel did it for me
[21:42] <Jordan_U> Chlorate: That means that you have already connected to that network before and the password has been saved to your keyring
[21:43] <pw-> wng-, my kernel's at the latest version
[21:43] <Jatz> djhash: anything wrong with it?
[21:43] <wng-> pw-: have you updated alsa
[21:43] <wng-> ?
[21:43] <pw-> wng-, matter of fact, i think that's what broke it
[21:43] <pw-> wng-, well, i uninstalled and reinstalled it
[21:43] <pantcho> Hi guys, Installed ubuntu! was great but i have nvidia card so i added the unsupported driver and all worked fine. then i rebooted and i get this weird msg that X can't load the error is "Fatal server error:no screens found" how can i remove the nvidia device manually ? thank you.
[21:44] <herrmess> Updated to Ibex - my NIC and ethX got all mixed up. Help?
[21:44] <junglist313> anyone else not able to update from the medibuntu repo?
[21:44] <wng-> pw-: I would fool around with compiling the kernel with different options/modules for the audio
[21:44] <brmj> I'm having trouble getting nvidia's proprietary drivers working. On my system, only the failsafe graphics work. I looked in the logs, and it says that the nvidia kernel module fails to load. I have tried both the 177 and 173 drivers, installed the normal way and through envy ng. I have also followed a quite a few random sets of instructions from the internet, also to no effect. This is a 9500 m  chip. Any suggestions?
[21:44] <djhash> Jatz: there are links in there to forums and such.. looks like the code was updated and fixed mid october.. check the forum links on that page.. maybe you'll find something there.. sorry.. but the problem is from the source code.. and I can't help you there.. check out the forums.. there has to be something there..
[21:44] <pw-> wng-, i'll try that
[21:44] <vitamin-carrot> quick question
[21:45] <neuton> I need to go out for a bit sry, please leave me a pm with any answers :)
[21:45] <herrmess> pantcho: You might have a problem with the xorg.conf file that prevents X from loading. Try removing the RgbPath line, it worked for me.
[21:45] <vitamin-carrot> name a vm app that allows the use of compiz while the client is running
[21:45] <__mork> Gnea: is there something like this file in gnome? http://www.jmglov.net/unix/dotfiles/dot-fluxbox/keys
[21:45] <__mork> search for Set PCM volume inside the page
[21:45] <pantcho> herrmess: i am editing it now with nano and i removed Device "nvidia ..." but i will serch for RgbPath line and i will remove it.
[21:46] <skippa> hmm
[21:46] <herrmess> pantcho: This is the only line that I needed to remove. I also had the "failed to find screen" message on reboot.
[21:47] <Jatz> djhash: that's weird, it works now but I have to do alsa reload
[21:47] <^hellfire^> dżemdobry
[21:47] <psychopax> hallo
[21:47] <csilk> any idea why pbuilder would fail with this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/69003/
[21:48] <junglist313> Can anyone help with this error I am getting when I try to update? I think my medibuntu repo is messed up.     http://pastebin.com/m25577b6d
[21:48] <djhash> Jatz: ok.. thats good.. :-) sure is weird though
[21:48] <herrmess> Guys, I have a problem with ethX/NICs -- I have an internal LAN on a NIC#1 which, when activated (the PC on other side goes online), totally screws up the external traffic on NIC#2 ... what the hell?
[21:48] <guntbert> !pl | ^hellfire^
[21:49] <pantcho> herrmess: i dont have Rgbpath line in my xorg.conf
[21:49] <Jatz> djhash: thanks
[21:49] <herrmess> It's like NetworkManager is to blame, but how the hell do I configure it? I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces manually but to no avail.
[21:49] <jaypur> id like to know a software to list all my hardware, like everest...
[21:49] <herrmess> pantcho: Hm... what does the Xorg log file say?
[21:49] <pantcho> no screens
[21:49] <djhash> junglist313: "sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring"
[21:50] <herrmess> pantcho - it's under /var/log
[21:50] <LjL> herrmess, NM doesn't really care what's in /etc/network/interfaces...
[21:50] <brmj> Re-posting because no one responded (that I noticed): I'm having trouble getting nvidia's proprietary drivers working. On my system, only the failsafe graphics work. I looked in the logs, and it says that the nvidia kernel module fails to load. I have tried both the 177 and 173 drivers, installed the normal way and through envy ng. I have also followed a quite a few random sets of instructions from the internet, also to no effect. This is a 95
[21:50] <klync> brmj: idunno, but have you checked on the forums? this has come up a few times since the latest release
[21:51] <junglist313> djhash: already at newest version
[21:51] <kadak> hox to get higher resolution on my nvidia geforce FX5200???
[21:51] <herrmess> LjL : I am not sure. After I killed it and modified /etc/network/interfaces it (FINALLY!) deigned to find eth0 which is my external interface.
[21:51] <djhash> junglist313: hmm. what's the medibuntu deb line in sources.list
[21:52] <brmj> klync: Yeah. Nothing I found seemed to help. I may have missed something, so if no one here knows how to help me, I will look again.
[21:52] <sidney> Hello
[21:52] <LjL> herrmess: i'd wait a while and/or reboot before calling the case solved
[21:52] <balzac> I have to say something. I'm in a rage over the stupid proprietary media codecs.
[21:53] <balzac> I'm using ubuntu eee
[21:53] <herrmess> LjL : reboot is a good idea actually.
[21:53] <pantcho> hermess: it says "data incomplete in /etc/usr/xorg.conf" Undefined device "null" referenced by screen "default screen"
[21:53] <LjL> herrmess: if your network configuration doesn't change, you could consider removing network-manager and just configuring things from interfaces
[21:53] <balzac> I've left the flash player installed only to watch obama videos on youtube
[21:53] <balzac> but when I play a flash video, it stops my audio and I have to reboot alsa
[21:53] <balzac> I can't stand flash!
[21:53] <sidney> I typed a command into the terminal to reinstall my sound
[21:53] <balzac> I hate proprietary media codecs.
[21:53] <sidney> sudo apt-get install build-essential linuxheader-$(sidney -r)module-assistant alsa-source sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[21:53] <balzac> God damn it!
[21:54] <Flannel> !language | balzac
[21:54] <balzac> Ubuntu needs to take a harder line against proprietary media codecs. We need a way to get the content while helping put an end to proprietary media codecs.
[21:54] <balzac> excuse my language.
[21:54] <hubar> balzac: calm down
[21:54] <balzac> I'm calming down...
[21:55] <balzac> I'm just so sick of proprietary media codecs.
[21:55] <sidney> E: Couldn't find package linuxheader-module-assistant
[21:55] <sidney> sidney@Hal9000:~$
[21:55] <Flannel> !away > WPPWAH|offline
[21:55] <sidney> E: Couldn't find package linuxheader-module-assistant
[21:55] <mr_polite> !away > mr_polite
[21:55] <hubar> balzac: try this
[21:56] <hubar> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pulseaudio-fixes-system-wide-equalizer-support-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[21:56] <hubar> balzac: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pulseaudio-fixes-system-wide-equalizer-support-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[21:56] <balzac> thanks hubar
[21:56] <junglist313> djhash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/69017/
[21:56] <conanius> hi all
[21:56] <hubar> It works for me.
[21:56] <conanius> anyone here use aMSN?
[21:56] <hubar> you should try it also :)
[21:56] <eraggo> conanius: i use
[21:56] <conanius> I cant seem to sign in!!
[21:56] <conanius> it just sits there saying 'logging in'
[21:56] <eraggo> ?
[21:57] <eraggo> i'm logged in right now..
[21:57] <conanius> quite
[21:57] <sidney> Can someone help with no sound in 8.10 please
[21:57] <conanius> but mine wont log in
[21:57] <conanius> it just sits there saying 'logging in' the pidgeon messenger works
[21:57] <eraggo> hmmm
[21:57] <conanius> but I want to use aMSN
[21:58] <eraggo> look for connection properties?
[21:58] <conanius> yep
[21:58] <conanius> tried playing around with that
[21:58] <sken> avc nal size 0 i get this erron in mplayer
[21:58] <conanius> but nothing
[21:58] <sken> what's that?
[21:59] <sken> does anybody has any clue?
[21:59] <admin_masu3701> jon #hacker
[21:59] <djhash> junglist313: i belive you did this "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[22:00] <D4V3R> does anyone have nagios notifications sent vis msn, icq or irc using centerim?
[22:01] <matrixs> hi guys when i run ruby i get this error i am on ubuntu http://www.pastebin.ca/1248196
[22:01] <sken> ChanServ*	[#ubuntu] Welcome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel topic and consider spending some time on the FAQ mentioned there - This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ 	[22:01] <sken> ...documentation of this network's nickname registration services that should be found in the MOTD (/motd to display it). 	<eraggo>	look for connection properties? 	<conanius>	yep 	<sken>	avc nal size 0 i get this erron in mplayer 	<conanius>	tried playing around with that 	<conanius>	but nothing 	<sken>	what's that? 	<sken>	does anybody has any clue? 	<admin_masu3701>	jon #hacker 	<djhash>	jungli
[22:01] <sken> st313: i belive you did this "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list" 	<D4V3R>	does anyone have nagios notifications sent vis msn, icq or irc using centerim?
[22:01] <grzegorz> connect ircnet.poznan.pl
[22:01] <FloodBot3> sken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <junglist313> djhash: I just copied the install repo instructions they had on their website and then added the key. I checked in their irc and they think one of the mirrors is out of sync
[22:01] <pantcho> hermess: it says "data incomplete in /etc/usr/xorg.conf" Undefined device "null" referenced by screen "default screen"
[22:02] <sken> hello uu guys
[22:02] <sken> ubu
[22:02] <sken> i have a question
[22:02] <awakebyjava> okay, jgonick couldnt help, anyone else want to give it a go?
[22:03] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer avc nal size error 0
[22:04] <sken> does anybody has any clue?
[22:05] <vonderer> hi there, what do I need to compile fluxbox 1.1.1 in intrepid with png and style support?
[22:05] <csilk> Anyone in here use pbuilder?
[22:05] <crimsun> vonderer: apt-get build-dep fluxbox, and check the extracted debian/rules and debian/config
[22:05] <vonderer> or, maybe there's a ready-to-install package somewhere?
[22:05] <crimsun> csilk: yes
[22:05] <csilk> crimsun,  any idea why pbuilder would fail with this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/69003/
[22:05] <vonderer> grrr
[22:05] <vonderer> crimsun: in repo. fluxbox 1.0.0 is latest!
[22:05] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer avc nal size error 0
[22:06] <jordo2323> Does anyone know how to encode divx video to a PSP device successfully?
[22:06] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer avc nal size error 0
[22:06] <crimsun> vonderer: sorry, I ommitted that you might want to look at an extracted source package for debian/{rules,config}
[22:06] <GLG20> sken, I am not familiar with mplayer but did you try searching google for your error
[22:06] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer avc nal size error 0
[22:06] <Flannel> !repeat | sken
[22:06] <crimsun> csilk: one sec, pretty busy ATM
[22:06] <sken> no
[22:06] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer avc nal size error 0
[22:06] <csilk> crimsun, ok, would be very greatful if you could give me a shout when your free
[22:07] <crimsun> vonderer: another possibility is to request a backport from jaunty, which has 1.1.1
[22:08] <vonderer> thanks
[22:08] <xiaou> hey crim
[22:08] <sken> i found something in google but i didn't understand
[22:08] <crimsun> csilk: what versions of pbuilder and debootstrap are you using?
[22:08] <sken> it was weird
[22:08] <crimsun> xiaou: hi
[22:08] <csilk> crimsun,  latest from the intrepid repo
[22:09] <robacarp> how do I verify opengl support is running ?
[22:09] <maxxist> offtopic how do I retrieve an old nickserv password that is still registered to my email address?
[22:09] <csilk> crimsun,  strange thing is, this worked on another one of my machines, identical setup minus the hardware
[22:09] <Flannel> maxxist: You'll need to contact a staffer
[22:09] <robacarp> maxxist: I think that if you /msg nickserv help it will  tell you
[22:09] <crimsun> csilk: make sure that you're using pbuilder and debootstrap from intrepid-backports
[22:10] <maxxist> robacarp i tried the help.  it didnt tell me
[22:10] <matrixs> hi guys when i run ruby i get this error i am on ubuntu http://www.pastebin.ca/1248196
[22:10] <cheat> \join irc://irc.uni-erlangen.de/uni-luebeck
[22:10] <robacarp> maxxist: yea, Flannel is right
[22:10] <crimsun> csilk: also, which command did you execute to receive that error?
[22:10] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer  "avc nal size error 0"
[22:10] <robacarp> maxxist: you might be able to do it on the freenode website, but idk
[22:10] <sidney> i installed ubuntu from the site is that Kde
[22:11] <maxxist> robacarp  thanx.  i will check there.
[22:11] <sken> no gnome is the best
[22:11] <Flannel> sken: every 20-30 minutes is a good repeat frequency.
[22:11] <csilk> crimsun, > sudo pbuilder create --distribution intrepid  --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid main restricted universe multiverse"
[22:11] <sken> why i get this error in mplayer avc nal size error 0
[22:11] <sken> ok
[22:12] <sidney> how do i tell which i have
[22:12] <dhilip> OpenGL? Try this " man -k openGL"
[22:12] <Flannel> sidney: Is it blue or orange?
[22:12] <baxtor> hey everyone, im trying to get my grub to correctly load up my vista OS, is there a way i can use terminal to find what disk # and partition # vista is installed into? save me doing alot of guess work editing the grub menu.
[22:12] <sken> sidney is it bkue or orange?
[22:12] <csilk> crimsun, I can't find any intrepid backports of debootstrap, that's why I'm using the intrepid main ones
[22:12] <ghindo__> Hi.  My laptop keeps experiencing what I suspect to be a kernel panic; everything freezes up and the caps/scroll lock lights start blinking.  Does anybody have any ideas?
[22:13] <sidney> the desktop?
[22:13] <sken> yes
[22:13] <Flannel> sidney: the splash screen you get when you boot (with the little bar that goes back and forth)
[22:13] <sidney> it was blue
[22:14] <JAVAj3d1> hello
[22:14] <Flannel> sidney: And you have the menu for your applications in the bottom left, correct?
[22:14] <crimsun> csilk: I think it'll be easier if you cp /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh ~/pbuilder-intrepid && mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/result && ~/pbuilder-intrepid create --components "main restricted universe multiverse"
[22:14] <sidney> no on top
[22:15] <sidney> top left
[22:15] <Flannel> sidney: it looks something like this? http://www.xubuntu.org/files/edgy3.jpeg
[22:15] <partymetroid> Hello.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but Ubiquity hangs at 12% while starting up the partitioner.
[22:15] <partymetroid> :)
[22:15] <csilk> crimsun, I don't see why I would need to do that, I'ce built intrepid environemnts several times on intrepid with no problems or need to deviate fdomr default behaviour/config
[22:16] <crimsun> csilk: I.e., much of the work that you're attempting to accomplish via --othermirror is subsumed in --components
[22:16] <sken> can any body  explain me that error?
[22:16] <sken> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6125708
[22:16] <csilk> crimsun, ok ignore that for a while, even if I just do sudo pbuilder create I get the same error
[22:16] <sken> i don't quite understand it
[22:16] <sken> huh?
[22:16] <sidney> yes but the icon is orange
[22:16] <pantcho> Hello again, i have nvidia card, downloaded NVTV and nvidia-xconfig, restarted and i get error on xorg.conf - "no drivers available"
[22:16] <Flannel> sidney: Alright, thats Ubuntu then.
[22:16] <sken> so you have kde
[22:17] <crimsun> csilk: do you have anything using bindmount?
[22:17] <Flannel> sidney: you have Gnome
[22:17] <csilk> crimsun, not as far as I'm aware
[22:17] <sidney> thanks
[22:17] <sken> no sidney you have kde
[22:17] <crimsun> csilk: also, is the error repeatable if you telinit 1, then telinit 2?  (drop to single then resume multiuser)
[22:17] <sidney> now how can i get the sound to work . it worked before i left this machine
[22:18] <pyrohotdog> Okay so it's showing my external drive and everything on it as being owned by root, and chown does NOTHING...
[22:18] <sken> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6125708
[22:18] <csilk> crimsun, Not sure, I'll update with the latest updates that are coming through then I'll reboot and try, brb
[22:18] <sken> erro problem
[22:18] <crimsun> sidney: can you open a Konsole, then type: asoundconf list
[22:18] <Flannel> sken: Please stop repeating.  Wait 20-30 minutes before repeating.
[22:18] <crimsun> sidney: then tell me what is returned?
[22:19] <NemesisD> so is it pretty safe to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 now?
[22:19] <partymetroid> Can anyone help me?
[22:19] <Flannel> sidney: He means a terminal, crimsun, he's on Ubuntu
[22:19] <sidney> done
[22:19] <pyrohotdog> How can I make my user the owner of my usb drive?
[22:19] <patmaddox> is there a set of "essential dev packages" that I need to install?
[22:19] <sidney> Names of available sound cards:
[22:19] <pantcho> how can i configure in xorg.conf a generic video device with no nvidia device since the driver is not loading
[22:19] <sidney> V8235
[22:19] <ghindo> Hi.  My laptop keeps experiencing what I suspect to be a kernel panic; everything freezes up and the caps/scroll lock lights start blinking.  Does anybody have any ideas?
[22:19] <sidney> Audigy
[22:19] <Flannel> patmaddox: build-essential
[22:20] <sken> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6125708 see and explain me
[22:20] <crimsun> sidney: ok, and you want to use your audigy as the default?
[22:20] <sidney> yes
[22:20] <sysdoc> Whew vmware up and running.. Thanks for all the help guys!!
[22:20] <crimsun> Flannel: ok (conversation tracked from #kubuntu where the question originated)
[22:21] <crimsun> sidney: ok, we need to do two things: firstly, set the audigy as the default using a module configuration, and secondly, reboot
[22:21] <deftone> Looking to buy the HP DV5-1125NR and it's got the ATI RADEON HD 3200 graphics RS780M. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hardy supports this chip??
[22:21] <sken> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6125708 see and explain me
[22:21] <sidney> ok
[22:21] <Flannel> sken: Please wait 20-30 minutes before repeating.  This is your last warning.
[22:22] <crimsun> sidney: what does the command `cat /proc/asound/modules' give you?
[22:22] <fisk0> my ubuntu 8.10 seem to forget which resolution I've set (and even which resolutions my video card/monitor support) every time I reboot. Now I can't choose anything but 320x200 and 640x480
[22:22] <sken> flannel please see my link eand explain me because i didn't understand what to do
[22:22] <sken> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6125708
[22:23] <Flannel> sken: You need to wait, no one who is active right now knows the answer.  Repeating the question doesn't help.
[22:23] <csilk> crimsun, no joy
[22:23] <sken> Einai kanenas ellinas edo?
[22:24] <sidney>  0 snd_via82xx
[22:24] <sken> re paidia ellinass ellada
[22:24] <sidney>  1 snd_emu10k1
[22:24] <crimsun> sidney: ok, so you need this entire line verbatim: echo options snd slots=snd-emu10k1,snd-via82xx|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[22:24] <crimsun> sidney: after you copy and paste that line into Terminal, you should receive the following line: "echo options snd slots=snd-emu10k1,snd-via82xx"
[22:25] <woli> is there some kind of application that will download files for me from a given url?
[22:25] <skorasaurus> wget
[22:25] <crimsun> sidney: after that, you may log out and/or reboot
[22:25] <woli> that is not an internet browser as well
[22:25] <woli> ah nice..
[22:25] <crimsun> sidney: I recommend that you reboot
[22:25] <woli> skorasaurus: one that may be paused?
[22:25] <skorasaurus> is that what you're looking for ?
[22:25] <sidney> it returned options snd slots=snd-emu10k1,snd-via82xx
[22:25] <skorasaurus> woli, im pretty sure you can pause it.
[22:25] <crimsun> sidney: yes, that's correct
[22:25] <skorasaurus> not positive.
[22:25] <skorasaurus> woli, try curl as well.
[22:25] <woli> skorasaurus: how?
[22:25] <sidney> BRB thanks
[22:26] <skorasaurus> woli, it's a command line program, you use it in the terminal.
[22:26] <crimsun> csilk: ok, same command gives identical error?
[22:26] <woli> skorasaurus: that is the reason for which i doubted it was pausable
[22:26] <csilk> crimsun, yes
[22:26] <hlfshell> I'm getting an error message when trying to "sudo make" something - it says it can not find lcurses. Anyone have any idea on this one?
[22:26] <skorasaurus> woli, i dont think it would make a different
[22:26] <skorasaurus> difference*
[22:26] <csilk> crimsun, it's the create command regardless of what comes after, that is where the issue is
[22:26] <ay^> hlfshell: do you have anything called lcurses installed?
[22:26] <woli> skorasaurus: do you know of some gtk for wget?
[22:27] <Hentay> !login
[22:27] <pantcho> anyone can help me with suggestions on how to edit xorg.conf, i updated the system to use nvidia drivers and now it can not load the X
[22:27] <skorasaurus> woli, if you go to the package manager and enter in 'wget' ; you may find one.
[22:27] <hlfshell> no - but i cant find a package for it ay^
[22:27] <fisk0> I'll try rebooting a couple of times more. The entire system seem to be breaking down
[22:27] <skorasaurus> i dont know one off hand.
[22:27] <hlfshell> any idea which package to look for ay^ ?
[22:27] <fisk0> pantcho: sounds like a problem similar to mine
[22:27] <kenokabe> hi List,  Is there anyway to add animation effect without compiz fusion?
[22:27] <icqnumber> !mp3
[22:27] <ay^> hlfshell: mkay perhaps there is no package and you need to compile on yourself
[22:27] <ay^> hlfshell: I could check
[22:27] <dustrial> hi again, i removed kdm4, now kdm is not starting  and i have to login into a non-gui shell
[22:27] <kenokabe> .
[22:27] <dustrial> help
[22:27] <pantcho> fisk0: what do you get ? could not load drivers error?
[22:27] <hlfshell> if you can figure out what package ay^  that'd be great-  i tried looking and cant find any so far
[22:27] <usuario__> ñ
[22:28] <pantcho> fisk0: i am a total linux newbie
[22:28] <fisk0> pantcho: yeah, I got that once, then I got into some strange loop about creating new default settings and  ever since the second boot  it can't stick with the screen resolution I want
[22:28] <woli> skorasaurus: thanks, i found gwget
[22:29] <csilk> crimsun, it must be a config or conflict issue of some sort as I have created an intrepid pbuilt environment on an indentical machine the day intrepid was released
[22:29] <ay^> hlfshell: found this mail-list
[22:29] <ay^> hlfshell: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.lfs.support/2003-02/msg00163.html
[22:29] <skorasaurus> woli, welcome.
[22:29] <crimsun> csilk: do you have additional apparmor or selinux profiles enabled?
[22:29] <pantcho> fisk0: how can i create new default settings?
[22:29] <fisk0> pantcho: me too. Pretty annoying when stuff breaks and you have no idea of why it breaks or what to do about it
[22:29] <Fiberchunks> does anyone know a way to convert .swf to .avi (or any other sane, non-proprietary format?)
[22:29] <Hentay> can anyone tell me how could i login to my router using gnome-terminal, or maybe where i can find more information?
[22:29] <hlfshell> ok testingg it now - thanks ay^  :-D
[22:29] <ay^> hlfshell: so you probably just need to install libncurses or something
[22:29] <csilk> crimsun, no, this is a default intrepid install in every sense of the word
[22:30] <csilk> with latest updates
[22:30] <fisk0> pantcho: I don't know, after a couple of reboots I got a menu with the options to load generic settings, create new default settings and something more. but that menu just keep repeating whenever I choose something
[22:30] <hlfshell> i think that did it ay^ , Thanks!
[22:30] <crimsun> csilk: ok, sanity-check: do you at least 100 MB free in /var/cache ?
[22:30] <usuario__> hola!
[22:30] <fisk0> and now the system is slowing down to a crawl
[22:30] <ay^> hlfshell: np! :)
[22:30] <Hentay> can anyone tell me how could i login to my router using gnome-terminal, or maybe where i can find more information?
[22:31] <dustrial> hi, so i put the question like this: when KDM is a system-service, where is the line, that actually says /usr/bin/kdm
[22:31] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me with my network i cant seem to connect to the internet at all tried creating a static ip but it is not being found in ifconfig, what could be wrong (followed this tut http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html)?
[22:31] <csilk> crimsun, /var/cache has a few gig free
[22:31] <dustrial> ?
[22:31] <ay^> Hentay: thats depends on your routers login-system
[22:31] <Serafeim> hallo to everybody!
[22:31] <pantcho> fisk0: i will try
[22:31] <Serafeim> i have sound problems, please help me
[22:31] <ay^> Hentay: I always use a webinteface that uses javascripts, so a terminal wouldn't cut it for me
[22:31] <vasilis> Question about ubuntu and vmware.I'm trying to run an ubuntu 8.04 guest in a windows xphome host using vmware player 2.5 . It installed fine, but after installing the vmware-tools package my mouse clicks do not register. The mouse pointer moves but i don't see any response with left or right click. the kernel is 2.6.24. Any ideas?
[22:31] <csilk> crimsun,  I can't see any obvious reason why it's not working, I have a totally identical setup where this works fine, after 3 days of this I'm about ready to re-install intrepid
[22:31] <crimsun> csilk: ok, another sanity-check: can you chroot into any subdirectory of /var/cache/pbuilder?
[22:32] <fisk0> pantcho: I got some help on my local ubuntu support group, I didn't work for me, but it might work for you. i'll try to dig up the terminal command
[22:32] <Hentay> ay^,  program webinteface or just via firefox?
[22:32] <Serafeim> when i plug in my headphones the sound still comes out from the speakers of my laptop
[22:32] <ay^> Hentay: via firefox
[22:33] <Hentay> ay^,  ok, then can i login to my vpn another computer?
[22:33] <geeksquad> why is my .bash_profile missing
[22:33] <russ> Can someone give me a hand with using nvidia's X server: I'm trying to get dual monitors working
[22:33] <ay^> Hentay: via the terminal? I would think thats possible, but again I suppose it depends in the interface.
[22:33] <geeksquad> please help im using 8.10
[22:33] <Hentay> russ i can give my both hands, but i don;t know if it helps for u :)
[22:33] <partymetroid> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but Ubiquity hangs at 12% while starting up the partitioner.
[22:33] <Flannel> geeksquad: check ~/.profile
[22:34] <Serafeim> please help, when i plug in my headphones the sound still comes out from the speakers of my laptop!
[22:34] <Hentay> ay^,  maybe do u know from there i can get more info?
[22:34] <ay^> russ: did you use the nvidia-settings?
[22:34] <csilk> crimsun, yes
[22:34] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me with my network i cant seem to connect to the internet at all tried creating a static ip but it is not being found in ifconfig, what could be wrong (followed this tut http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html)?
[22:34] <russ> ay^: I'm using the nvidia driver
[22:34] <Hentay> Serafeim, ur plugin is good?
[22:34] <ay^> Hentay: I'm sorry to say the only information gathering places I have are ubuntu forums and google it self
[22:34] <geeksquad> thats there
[22:34] <Hentay> :)
[22:34] <psicobra> any one any good with setting up 5.1 speaker system
[22:34] <russ> ay^: am I understanding you?
[22:34] <fisk0> pantcho: this is the command I was recommended (enter it in a terminal): sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:34] <Hentay> ay^,  thanks :)
[22:34] <ay^> russ: still, did you use the nvidia program for settings?
[22:34] <Serafeim> hentay: yea, the sound comes both from headphones and speakers
[22:34] <ay^> russ:  no :)
[22:35] <russ> ay^: no I have not to my understanding
[22:35] <ghindo> Hi.  My laptop running Ubuntu 8.10 keeps experiencing what I suspect to be a kernel panic; everything freezes up and the caps/scroll lock lights start blinking.  Does anybody have any ideas?
[22:35] <Serafeim> i want to mute the speakers when i plug in the headphones
[22:35] <ay^> russ: there is a package that something like nvidia-settings, han gon a second I'll look it up
[22:35] <geeksquad>             flannel what do id do
[22:35] <Hentay> i think that the easiest way is to turn off laptom speakers via sound control center
[22:35] <ay^> russ: nvidia-settings is the name
[22:35] <Flannel> geeksquad: use that instead.  I believe everything has been moved there.
[22:35] <Stormx2> ghindo: Is there a particular event which causes it? is it during boot, or normal usage?
[22:35] <ay^> russ install it and use it (with root I think)
[22:36] <pantcho> fisk0 will try
[22:36] <geeksquad> well its avery small file
[22:36] <spidey> russ: also you may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:36] <Serafeim> hentay: when i turn off the laptop speakers the sound mutes from both
[22:36] <ghindo> Stormx2: Just normal usage.  I can't pin it to a certain application, either
[22:36] <fisk0> pantcho: note that it didn't work for me, but my entire system is acting strange, might be  moer than just the drivers breaking down on my system
[22:36] <eraggo> Serafeim: have you tried option: headphones?
[22:36] <Stormx2> ghindo: Mad. It's not something I've had to deal with, I guess there must be some sort of system log
[22:37] <Flannel> geeksquad: so was the old bash_profile, it sources .bashrc and optionally sets your path to include ~/bin, right?
[22:37] <Serafeim> eraggo: yeah
[22:37] <eraggo> :/
[22:37] <fisk0> judging by the names of the programs it looks like it's supposed to fix xorg acting strange
[22:37] <russ> ay^: I have that installed, only prob is that this is my first experience with linux
[22:37] <Flannel> geeksquad: What are you trying to do?
[22:37] <ay^> russ: it's okay. But ou need to use that app
[22:37] <ghindo> Stormx2: I browsed through the system log a bit, but couldn't find anything conclusive.  Thanks for the help, anyway
[22:37] <fisk0> I'll try another reboot now
[22:37] <partymetroid> I'm going crazy here.
[22:37] <eraggo> why? :D
[22:38] <geeksquad> without bash profile does bashrc run
[22:38] <partymetroid> eraggo: No one will answer my question. D:
[22:38] <eraggo> and it was...?
[22:38] <russ> ay^: so I just go to command line and type "sudo nvidia-xconfig" ?
[22:38] <ping2> is there any way to see if my network card is connected at 10mbps or 100mbps?
[22:38] <psicobra> ok basically i have a logitech 5.1 system and i have an HD soundcard witch supports 5.1 but it only has 3 output sockets and i cannot get mythtv using 5.1 any one able to help
[22:38] <Stormx2> partymetroid: What was your question?
[22:38] <ay^> russ: yes and then "sudo nvidia-settings"
[22:38] <partymetroid> eraggo: My question was, "Why does Ubiquity hang on the partitioner at 12%?"
[22:38] <Serafeim> there's no solution?? :(
[22:38] <geirha> geeksquad: for non-interactive shells .bashrc will be sourced, for interactive shells, .bash_profile will be sourced
[22:39] <crimsun> csilk: how many resources do you have to further debug?  I recommend you either walk through the debootstrap sequence by hand to narrow the culprit in debootstrap, or attempt to reproduce it from a live/desktop environment
[22:39] <ping2> psicobra, does the sound system have a digital or optical input?
[22:39] <geeksquad> what
[22:39] <eraggo> o.O
[22:39] <Flannel> geeksquad: see the comments at the tops  of those files, bashrc runs on non-interactive shells, profile runs on interactive shells (and profile sources rc)
[22:39] <icqnumber>  Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media RTP depayloader|decoder-application/x-rtp, what packages do i miss?
[22:39] <crimsun> csilk: otherwise, if you lack resources, it may be in your best interest to just blow it away
[22:39] <sidney> crimsun it didnt work
[22:39] <psicobra> my system has 1 optical input and 3 anoloug ones but my sound card only has anologue
[22:39] <Stormx2> partymetroid: I thought ubiquity was a firefox extension? o.o
[22:39] <crimsun> sidney: what's the output from `asoundconf list'?
[22:39] <Flannel> Stormx2: no, its the GUI installer
[22:39] <pLr> geeksquad's are effing n0bs
[22:39] <geeksquad> so will rc run without bash profile just say tes or no
[22:40] <Stormx2> Flannel: Ah, okay.
[22:40] <Flannel> geeksquad: For non-interactive shells
[22:40] <Flannel> pLr: Please watch your language, and follow the code of conduct
[22:40] <geeksquad> is bash non-interactive?
[22:40] <sidney> what was the command again
[22:40] <pLr> Flannel: sry
[22:40] <csilk> crimsun, I'm in the process of getting an intrepid VM up and running. My plan was to move my packaging work away from my laptop and onto my dualscreen desktop, so far not looking good
[22:40] <Flannel> geeksquad: no, a terminal is interactive.
[22:40] <ping2> psicobra, might need to upgrade your sound card, sounds like you need one with an optical out
[22:40] <crimsun> sidney: asoundconf list
[22:40] <russ>  ay^: I'm actually using that program now, but I still don't know how to config it for dual monitors
[22:40] <partymetroid> Stormx2: Ubiquity is the Ubuntu installation program. :/
[22:40] <ping2> psicobra, what sound card do you have?
[22:40] <Stormx2> partymetroid: Yeah. Flannel already said.
[22:41] <partymetroid> Oh, okay.
[22:41] <psicobra> ping2, i was thinking that any suggestions on a cheap card that is linux compatible that has optical out
[22:41] <ay^> russ: Its pretty straight forward if you know what stuff means, and sadly I'm on my laptop now with a intel gfx, but my desktop has nvidia and dual monitors
[22:41] <sidney> Audigy
[22:41] <m3lawren> Anyone know why nautilus might be spinning on one of my cpus?
[22:41] <sidney> V8235
[22:41] <pLr> geeksquad: an example of non-interactive bash is ssh host command here, interactive is ssh host; wait for shell; command here
[22:41] <psicobra> ping2, it is an onboard card some HD audio crap
[22:41] <csilk> crimsun, I have a suspicion this has something to do with an update from the last couple of update cycles, if this is true I can't imagine many peopeol would of spotted it, how many people have setup a pbuilt intrepid environment in the last 7 days.. not many I should guess
[22:41] <geeksquad> Flannel my question is: does bashrc run on startup without bash_profile i am using bash just say yes or no
[22:41] <geirha> geeksquad: if you run a script with bash, it runs non-interactive.
[22:41] <crimsun> sidney: ok, now, please pastebin the output from `amixer -c0'
[22:41] <russ> ay^: I need twin view correct?
[22:41] <crimsun> sidney: there will be a lot of output
[22:42] <ping2> psicobra, search around a bit, i have a sb live! with digital coax that works nicely, make sure you get one with digital optical out
[22:42] <pantcho> fisk0:it worked!
[22:42] <ping2> good luck bbl
[22:42] <crimsun> sidney: alternately, please download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run it using bash
[22:42] <ay^> russ: I don't really remember but either twin view or separate screens suits you best
[22:42] <psicobra> i have coaxial in aswell
[22:42] <geeksquad> flannel se my last post and say yes or no not annything else
[22:42] <psicobra> on surround system
[22:42] <ay^> with separate screens you can check a check-box that says something like "xcinerama"
[22:42] <sidney> that's alot of info
[22:43] <sidney> should i paste it here
[22:43] <ay^> which then would allow you to have different stuff on each screen, but still be able to drag and drop between them
[22:43] <Flannel> geeksquad: What are you wondering about?  You're being rather obtuse in the manner in which you're asking questions.
[22:43] <cheze> como bootear con puppy en windows 95
[22:43] <pLr> geeksquad: the answer is often it depends, bashrc is made for commands run when a user logs in, if you want it when the computer starts up use /etc/rc(runlevel)
[22:43] <pLr> .d
[22:43] <geeksquad> say somthing a 9 yr old can understand
[22:43] <maxxist> what does it mean when at the top of my xchat window it says #ubuntu-unregged   ????
[22:43] <herrmess> LjL : I tried a reboot, didn't work.
[22:44] <zamba> maxxist: you're not registered with nickserv on freenode
[22:44] <ay^> maxxist: I think it means you haven't regged your nickname
[22:44] <Flannel> geeksquad: Ask your actual question.  What are you doing that you want to know if bashrc is going to be accessed or not?
[22:44] <geeksquad> plr bashrc runs without bash_profile when i log in
[22:44] <zamba> maxxist: at least you weren't registered at the point of joining the channel
[22:44] <balzac> i registered my nick with nickserv because I was so happy with it and I don't want to lose my identity on freenode
[22:44] <maxxist> brb
[22:44] <balzac> I don't care about efnet.
[22:44] <herrmess> Summary --- ifup eth1 (LAN NIC) kills all traffic on eth0 (EXT NIC) . Any ideas anyone?
[22:44] <m11> eve
[22:44] <icqnumber> The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media RTP depayloader plugin which is not installed. what package is that?
[22:45] <Flannel> geeksquad: not with bash_profile, but with .profile, yes.
[22:45] <psicobra> ping2, what is exact model of your card please
[22:45] <geirha> geeksquad: put an "echo blah" at the bottom of your .bashrc and see if it shows "blah" when you log in
[22:45] <pLr> geeksquad: ubuntu uses .profile
[22:45] <geeksquad> good so .profile runs on startup too
[22:45] <Flannel> geeksquad: .profile and .bash_profile are equivalent for the purposes of this conversation, yes.
[22:46] <Ademan> is there a way to use apt or aptitude to remove a package, and then if as a result, any packages are unneeded, they will be removed as well? (aptitude --purge-unused is much too overzealous)
[22:46] <pLr> geeksquad: everything has a purpose you cant put scripts there unless they should be executed when a user launches a shell
[22:46] <ay^> Ademan: yes sudo apt-get remove packagename
[22:46] <maxxist> nope nickserv says i am identified.  still says it at the top
[22:46] <pLr> geeksquad: tell us what you want to do and it will be easier for you
[22:46] <joljam> hi
[22:46] <Flannel> maxxist: Its a property of the channel.
[22:46] <ghindo> Ademan: apt-get and aptitude usually do so when you use the "remove" command
[22:46] <pLr> geeksquad: listen to Flannel
[22:47] <joljam> I am having problems with ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[22:47] <maxxist> Flannel do i need to also register in the channel?
[22:47] <joljam> i will be grateful if anyone could help me
[22:47] <Flannel> Ademan: Try apt-get autoremove, but --simulate it first, to double check.  Also, try deborphan (but autoremove is supposed to replace deborphan)
[22:47] <pLr> joljam: ask your question, do not ask to ask
[22:47] <Flannel> maxxist: No.  the ubuntu-unregged thing is a property of the channel, the channel has #ubuntu-unregged associated with it.  Nothing you do will change it
[22:48] <Ademan> thanks everyone
[22:48] <joljam> once I am online after some time my ubuntu 8/04 freezes on me
[22:48] <joljam> is there any solution available with some one
[22:48] <maxxist> Flannel ok i thought it had something to do with registering..  thanx
[22:49] <pLr> joljam: try using ctrl+alt+backspace to restart your x session, if that works you need to reconfigure your x server
[22:49] <pLr> joljam: if that does not work you must troubleshoot in text mode
[22:49] <hwilde> hey I have an IP address, how do I look up the local dns name ?
[22:49] <deftone> Looking to buy the HP DV5-1125NR and it's got the ATI RADEON HD 3200 graphics RS780M. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hardy supports this chip??
[22:49] <plouffe> trying to change file permissions using "sudo chmod a+w <filename>" but nothing happens. (no permissions for a after cmd executes without error). Any ideas why?
[22:49] <geirha> hwilde: host <ipaddr>
[22:49] <icqnumber> The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media RTP depayloader plugin which is not installed. what package is that?
[22:50] <solara> i recompiled ubuntu with ext4 support, but i still can't mount a partition formated as ext4
[22:50] <solara> mount complains, saying: mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'
[22:50] <rootsnatch> is ext4 stable?
[22:50] <pLr> solara: ext4 is experimental still i believe you should not use it unless you can troubleshoot it yourself
[22:50] <Aeosynth1> I'm trying to move onto a physical partition from a virtual one, I formatted the partition as ext3, created a linux swap partition, moved my data onto the main partition using LVPM, but when I try to boot into it I get an error - can't mount disk
[22:50] <qpdb> a lot of files on my ext3 filesystem got a "black square with white ? in it" in its name, is there a scripts/tool/thing that searches directorys for such broken filenames and cleans them out?
[22:51] <Symmetria> how do I up my maximum number of file descriptors? ulimit -n stil says 1024 no matter what I do
[22:51] <russ> ay^: thx for the help I have it working now :)
[22:51] <pLr> aeosynth put your ubuntu cd in then try to look using gparted
[22:51] <solara> so basically plr you don't kow why including it in the kernel and then recompiling still means i can't mount it
[22:51] <solara> thanks
[22:51] <redDEAD> how do i reset my keyboard settings, alt+F4 no longer closes window
[22:52] <ay^> russ: great! See it's not THAT scary with linux :)
[22:52] <Aeosynth1> pLr: I don't have an ubuntu cd. I installed it from windows using Wubi
[22:52] <crimsun> csilk: hmm, I just pbuilt a base intrepid
[22:52] <crimsun> (yeah, yeah, imprecise)
[22:52] <russ> ay^: I'm loving linux, how is open suse?
[22:52] <pLr> solara: no one troubleshoots experimental in ubuntu, its made to be stable, move to debian or gentoo
[22:52] <ay^> russ: I have no idea, only used debian and ubuntu :)
[22:52] <Symmetria> hrm there we go
[22:52] <FFForever> how do i install ath5k in ubuntu 8.04 i need it for my wifi........
[22:52] <csilk> crimsun, I'm doing to same in a vm in the next few mins, I'll keep you updated
[22:52] <pLr> solara: debian unstable will work much better for ext4
[22:53] <Symmetria> ok ulimit -n 16000 worked
[22:53] <pantcho> Anyone here got a an experience with remote desktop? i made it enabled and i wish that i could login my linux box through VNC client after the ubunutu boots BEFORE i enter user/pass is this possible?
[22:53] <Symmetria> how do I make that perm?
[22:53] <failure> anybody know why my automount /archive wont mount the directory from the server correctly? for instance, if i go cd /archive/sdfsdf the automount will reapear
[22:53] <pLr> aeosynth: wubi puts ur ubuntu in ntfs, in my personal opinion its highly unstable i have no clue how to help sry
[22:53] <failure> but it should work such as cd /archive shows the content.
[22:54] <pLr> Symmetria: you must use sysctl to make this change on a running kernel
[22:54] <Aeosynth1> k thanks, I'll try elsewhere
[22:54] <Symmetria> plr ulimit -n 16000 worked, the sysctl on the max was already at 200000
[22:54] <Symmetria> but it didnt load it with ulimit
[22:54] <Symmetria> ulimit was still set at 1024
[22:54] <FFForever> someone anyone...
[22:54] <Symmetria> how do I actually set that permenantly
[22:54] <Guest99886> hi ppl .... is LaTEX preinstall on ubuntu ?
[22:54] <white_eagle> hey, I need to upgrade some files and the download will take ~630 MBs and openarena is one of the updates and it's very big, it makes 50% of the upgrade, so how can I upgrade everything EXCEPT the openarena and openarena-data packages so my upgrade to be smaller (i'm capped) using the console?
[22:55] <Flannel> pLr: in the future, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438591
[22:55] <BleSS> please, any guide to configure microphone?
[22:55] <redDEAD> FFForever, have you checked the ubuntuforums.org
[22:55] <Flannel> Guest99886: not preinstalled, no, but theres a package and its easy to install.
[22:55] <redDEAD> FFForever, search for your model number and there is bound to be help
[22:55] <FFForever> redDEAD, yeah but i cant find the right package :/
[22:55] <pLr> Symmetria: Try this: http://thedaneshproject.com/posts/how-to-increase-total-file-descriptors-count-on-linux/
[22:55] <FFForever> i find instructions for ndiswrapper but i need ath5k :D
[22:55] <FFForever> ndiswrapper does not work for me....
[22:56] <crimsun> Guest99886: no, but you can install texlive
[22:56] <Symmetria> plr my file-max was already way up there
[22:56] <pLr> Flannel: Thank you
[22:56] <Symmetria> but again, the ulimit hadnt changed
[22:56] <pLr> Symmetria: but if you do not change with sysctl it will not happen
[22:56] <pLr> Symmetria: in the running kernel
[22:56] <Symmetria> plr I DID
[22:56] <Flannel> pLr: If you forget that link, it's linked from the wubi FAQ (search the page for transfer)
[22:57] <Ademan> we don't get python 2.6 in intrepid? :-(
[22:57] <phanter> hi
[22:57] <white_eagle> ...
[22:57] <phanter> how can I install the alternative ubuntu version from usbstick (it keeps asking for cd cd-rom drive)
[22:57] <pLr> Ademan: python is used by ALOT of programs in ubuntu, i guess ubuntu devs arent ready
[22:58] <pLr> Symmetria: so your problem is resolved?
[22:58] <pantcho> Anyone here got a an experience with remote desktop? i made it enabled and i wish that i could login my linux box through VNC client after the ubunutu boots BEFORE i enter user/pass is this possible?
[22:58] <Guest99886> thankx all
[22:58] <Symmetria> plr, *sigh* no, the ulimit -n didnt change until I did a ulimit -n 16000, I need to know how to set that so when it boots again its up there again
[22:58] <solara>  oh son of a bastard
[22:58] <PeskyJ> If I have windows on SATA1 and install ubuntu, is it possible to have ubuntu on SATA2 and the boot loader will make it boot from the second drive?
[22:58] <solara> i didn't compile with lsf
[22:59] <Ademan> pLr: heh, but they have python 3.0 in the repos, 2.6 is actually meant, among other things, to help people transition to 3....
[22:59] <redDEAD> PeskyJ,
[22:59] <Ademan> and it's not like we're not used to having multiple python versions installed at once...
[22:59] <MexTux> I have a problem with VSFTPD on Ubunutu 8.04. I want to create an user to upload content like images, php files, etc. So what I want is to create a new user when that new user logs in his home directory should be /var/www Is it possible? Any help will be appreciated
[22:59] <pLr> pantcho: you want to see your machine boot with vnc?
[22:59] <phanter> pantcho: if you use the RPD protocol you can log in remotely... with vnc I think you cannot indeed
[22:59] <redDEAD> PeskyJ, yes it is you just have to change your grub settings
[22:59] <solara> how is that not defaulted to yes
[22:59] <sidney> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[22:59] <solara> sigh
[22:59] <sidney>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
[22:59] <sidney>   Playback channels: Mono
[22:59] <sidney>   Limits: Playback 0 - 100
[22:59] <FloodBot3> sidney: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <sidney>   Mono: Playback 100 [100%] [0.00dB]
[22:59] <sidney> Simple mixer control 'Tone',0
[23:00] <smalleyes> which of the 4 java plugin options is best: 1) GCJ 2) Java SE 6 3) Java SE 5.0 4) GCJ using OpenJDK? Thanks~
[23:00] <phanter> smalleyes: do you ask us to name our preference or ???
[23:00] <shadewind> smalleyes: Java SE 6
[23:00] <graingert> smalleyes-> icedtea6-plugin
[23:00] <shadewind> GCJ sucks big time
[23:00] <pLr> smalleyes: use the ubuntu-restricted package it has the good one in my opinion
[23:00] <white_eagle> how can I upgrade everything EXCEPT the openarena and openarena-data packages so my upgrade to be smaller (i'm capped) using the console?
[23:00] <smalleyes> phanter: well, i want to know the best.
[23:00] <graingert> smalleyes-> use icedtea it works best as plugin
[23:01] <phanter> smalleyes: of course, we all want and that is why we all write new and shining and better version... everybody thinks something else is better v:)
[23:01] <smalleyes> graingert: you recommend icedtea6 while shadewind, you recommend java se6. what's the diff?
[23:01] <newton> is there anyway to drop all current connections on smtp?
[23:02] <PeskyJ> I previously had windows on a 300G drive in an 80G partition, then I installed ubuntu in the rest... is it possible to duplicate the 80G partition and the first 80G of the ubuntu partition into a 160G drive and use that drive instead, with both OSes not being much the wiser (except perhaps a disk check)?
[23:02] <pLr> BYE BYE ALL GN FRIDAY PARTY!
[23:02] <russ> what is the "Best" music player on linux?
[23:02] <Symmetria> hrm, can anyone here access http://za.releases.ubuntu.com
[23:02] <pLr> russ: amarok
[23:03] <ardchoille> !best | russ
[23:03] <Symmetria> cause unless I broke something it should work ;p
[23:03] <sidney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/69034/
[23:03] <sidney> i guess i did that right
[23:03] <ConstantineXVI> how would I go about batch renaming a bunch of files from the CLI?
[23:03] <ardchoille> sidney: Looks like it :)
[23:04] <pLr> ConstantineXVI: for loops or a file renamer proggy
[23:04] <newton> is there anyway to drop all current connections on smtp? (please...)
[23:04] <ConstantineXVI> i couldn't just, say, "mv *.*.foo *.foo"?
[23:05] <ardchoille> ConstantineXVI:  http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/RenameFiles
[23:06] <bobuntu> Hey guys. How soon will we get alsa1.0.18 (hdmi audio) and a new rt-kernel?
[23:07] <crimsun> bobuntu: for the latter, you'll need to see linux-backports-modules
[23:07] <joljam> ctrl alt backspace worked for me
[23:08] <newton> is there anyway to drop all current connections on smtp? (please... i've got too many connections to smtp while i just shutted down (and firewalled.) that port)
[23:08] <bobuntu> crimsun, the repositories?
[23:09] <crimsun> bobuntu: yes, aka l-b-m
[23:09] <phanter> newton: i do not know your answer, but you can always stop and start the service by hand... I guess that will make sure the active connections are dropped
[23:09] <newton> i did phanter
[23:09] <AgentHeX> so apparently i'm an idiot and didn't RTFM before setting an NTFS partition to type 0.  now neither windows nor ubuntu can see the partition.  i have data i'd like to get back, and the partition hasn't been touched other than setting it to type 0, so if anyone knows of programs that can detect partition boundaries, i would love to hear it.
[23:09] <newton> and i also blocked port 25 in apf
[23:09] <newton> phanter:  and i also blocked port 25 in apf
[23:09] <phanter> then who and what is connecting?
[23:09] <newton> phanter: http://pastebin.com/m7ee9fb64
[23:09] <bobuntu> crimsun, Thanks - I'd seen lbm before.. :)
[23:09] <shane2peru> ok, does anyone know how to get sound setup correctly?  I'm having some real issues with my sound
[23:09] <newton> phanter: they just reconnect every time etc..
[23:10] <phanter> what firewall do you have?
[23:10] <coldboot|home> How do you rsync a file with spaces in it?
[23:10] <fisk0> great. hours or trouble just to get back to a working system you can't set to a higher screen resolution than 640x480
[23:10] <mynous> isnt it \ before the space?
[23:10] <ping2> coldboot|home, use \ before spaces
[23:10] <AgentHeX> coldboot|home: use backslashes to escape the space.
[23:10] <AgentHeX> :-P
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> why is the updtae manager not showing from which to which version it is going to upgrade a packet.. or is there a way to tell it?
[23:10]  * mynous wins the race
[23:10] <newton> phanter: apf and it works great, but it just drops the connection. my firewall isn't the problem but due that high network connections (not only on smtp i just saw) my load is getting big
[23:10] <Hentay> ****@****:~$ sudo apt-get update E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory <<--- what a hell?
[23:11]  * AgentHeX gets honorable mention for spelling out "backslash"
[23:11] <ping2> coldboot|home, if it is from the command line you can use tab to complete the command automatically
[23:11] <phanter> newton: I do not understand. If your firewall drops the connection... then it is not connecting to your smtp port... right ?
[23:11] <coldboot|home> ping2: Dude, are you serious?
[23:11] <coldboot|home> ping2: I'm asking how to transfer from a remote computer, it's not going to tab complete.
[23:12] <newton> phaero: i just restarted my firewall, but the connections must still be closed, but then again its about my load, there connections just dont go away for some reason.
[23:12] <codro> what is the correct syntax for adding a live-cd (actually sd card) to the sources.list?
[23:12] <codro> I need to reinstall network manager but have to do it from removable media
[23:12] <shane2peru> anyone have any experience with setting up sound?
[23:13] <Hentay> ****@****:~$ sudo apt-get update E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory <<--- what a hell?
[23:13] <shane2peru> !language
[23:13] <codro> hentay something else has a file lock
[23:13] <phanter> newton: hmm, what smtp server do you use
[23:13] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: you should check out driver backports.
[23:13] <csilk> crimsun,  I just built an intrepid pbuilt environment in an intrepid VM, it must be a specific problem on my desktop then?
[23:13] <newton> phanter: i've used (if i'm right) postfix
[23:13] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: ok, how do I do that?
[23:13] <Hentay> how can i look what?
[23:13] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: can't remember the exact package name, but it's ubuntu-*-backports i think
[23:13] <AgentHeX> i'm going to look in a second
[23:13] <crimsun> csilk: quite possibly
[23:13] <codro> hentay close other applications like update manager or synaptic
[23:13] <fisk0> I have trouble with the sound too, can't get the line in/mic port on my soundblaster live 24bit to work. but at the moment  my trouble with the screen resolution is worse
[23:13] <ardchoille> Hentay: do you have another package manager running?
[23:14] <newton> phanter: but a silly controle panel removed it ore so and installed another (i dont know which one.)
[23:14] <crimsun> csilk: difficult to say without seeing strace
[23:14] <Hentay> no
[23:14] <Hentay> everything is closed :/
[23:14] <codro> hentay check process list from terminal: ps -ef
[23:14] <csilk> crimsun, is there an easy way to strace the process?
[23:14] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[23:14] <phanter> newton: maybe you want to find that out first :s
[23:14] <extor> Should every iptables firewall ruleset end with a "deny all" as the last rule?
[23:14] <phanter> how can I install the alternative ubuntu version from usbstick (it keeps asking for cd cd-rom drive)
[23:14] <codro> how do i tell synaptic (apt) to look/install from /media/disk which is a intrepid 8.10 image?
[23:14] <newton> phanter: i checeked /etc/init.d/ and i saw Courier i stopped all that processes from it, and could not connect anymore
[23:15] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic
[23:15] <crimsun> csilk: I don't know of one from within the script, sorry, but you can edit the script to place the output somewhere
[23:15] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: i think that's it.
[23:15] <newton> phanter: so i guess its Courier
[23:15] <csilk> crimsun, I'll look into that
[23:15] <csilk> thanks for the help
[23:15] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: what exactly is it?   A backports driver update?
[23:15] <AgentHeX> it's old drivers.
[23:16] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: hmm, I think I need new drivers.
[23:16] <codro> Hentay: you can also try lsof | grep "/var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[23:16] <ping2> codro, look in admin -> software sources
[23:16] <Hentay> yeah... linux sux, but use windows and u will be fucked in the asshole
[23:16] <newton> !language
[23:16] <AgentHeX> i used to run 7.10, and it didn't natively detect my audio hardware.  it was an intel HD audio chip (sigmatel something or other), and since 8.04, it's been detected natively
[23:16] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: my sound setup is a mess, It is Conexant Hermosa, using Azalia drivers
[23:16] <TwoD> I've got a Logitech MX518 USB mouse, I had 7 of the 8 buttons working in Hardy, using the mouse driver and ExplorerPS/2 protocol. I'm looking for the best way to get it fully working in Intrepid. Is evdev the way to go (heard it handles more than 7 buttons). I'm using the mouse driver and the ImPS/2 protocol atm.
[23:16] <Hentay> codro,  gnome-terminal smth wrong :/
[23:16] <shane2peru> !language | Hentay
[23:16] <codro> ping2: yes I  know where to look, but I don't know where to point it
[23:16] <phanter> hmm, i have never seen that server type...
[23:17] <codro> i tried doing deb /media/disk intrepid main
[23:17] <codro> that failed miserably
[23:17] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: hmmm...  not too familiar with specific cards, so i'm not that much help.  you can try backports and see if it works.  if not, just uninstall
[23:17] <newton> phanter: is there any way to exclude everything except the users ip from ps aux ? true egrep ore so?
[23:17] <Hentay> maybe that i have used update manager and after that i havent restart my terminal?
[23:17] <newton> phanter: so i can 'sudo ip r add blackhole IP'
[23:18] <shane2peru> anyone have any other ideas on setting up sound cards?
[23:18] <newton> i know theres a way to but now the exact command.
[23:18] <codro> hentay just try rebooting :)
[23:18] <ping2> codro, is anything listed under "installable from cd/dvd" in the ubuntu software tab?
[23:18] <shane2peru> !sound
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: my mouse started working with 76 buttons without doing anything. there is no mouse section in xorg.conf anymore
[23:18] <Hentay> y restarted gnome terminal and everything is perfect :D
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> lol.. s/76/7/
[23:19] <codro> ping2: no its an SD card slot
[23:19] <codro> ping2: it is not a cdrom
[23:19] <Hentay> codro,  maybe do u know how could i connect to my router, or other computer using gnome-terminal o bash or smth like this?
[23:19] <codro> Hentay: you need to setup sshd
[23:19] <administrator> hi
[23:19] <Hentay> sshd program ya?
[23:19] <codro> man sshd
[23:19] <phanter> newton: well, never done that... I guess you need somebody who is more familier with your services
[23:20] <Hentay> no manual entry for sshd :D
[23:20] <codro> install the man pages :P
[23:20] <Hentay> it rock's me :D
[23:20] <newton> phanter: i'm searching for a regex to exclude a kinda
[23:20] <codro> anyways this is really annoying, why is it so hard to get synaptic to recognize removable media as a upgrade/package source
[23:21] <ardchoille> codro: because the source isn't set up in the form of a repository?
[23:21] <Falstaf> Some programs don't work well with my monitor ... I get small lines on the screen (one of the progams is movie editor)
[23:21] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, hehe. So, if I add one, it will get ignored? If so, that would be a seriously crippling..
[23:21] <shane2peru> !alsa
[23:21] <codro> ard: yeah I just realized that bleh
[23:21] <ardchoille> !aptoncd | codro
[23:22] <codro> im just gonna put the debs  on the media
[23:22] <codro> easy enough
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: no i dont think it is ignored. but without, the mouse is added automatically through hal. what does not work with your mouse?
[23:22] <ping2> codro, oh ok, not sure then, cdrom entries look like "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release amd64 (20080423)]/ hardy main restricted" in sources.list
[23:22] <DB42> how can i see which files are creates by a package ?
[23:22] <phanter> hmm, anyone who ever managed to install ubuntu alternate from usb stick?
[23:22] <codro> phanter: i installed xubuntu desktop from sd slot
[23:23] <teratoma> phanter: i did.  i used usb-creator to make the image
[23:23] <shane2peru> codro: if you just copy them to the proper location from off the cd it will save you some figuring
[23:23] <codro> I used UNetBootin
[23:23] <phanter> teratoma: it was the alternate ubuntu version?
[23:23] <zaleth> I'm doing a university assignment, did anyone here breast feed their children?
[23:23] <rebel_kid> codro, you where either desperate or incredibly bored hehe
[23:23] <ping2> codro, you could also put an a cd image file on the flash drive and mount it as a cd
[23:23] <phanter> and it did not ask for the cd=-rom drive at all ?
[23:23] <teratoma> phanter: yes.  i wanted to get wacky with encrypted LVM, so i used alternative ubuntu version
[23:23] <codro> i don't ahve a cdrom drive
[23:23] <codro> this is a eeepc
[23:23] <DB42> how can i see which files are creates by a package ?
[23:23] <phanter> great :)
[23:24] <shane2peru> codro the location you want to put them in is: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:24] <ping2> codro, a .iso cd image file can be mounted to appear as a cd
[23:24] <codro> ping2: i don't have the iso on the computer, i have an sd card that is a bootable extracted iso
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> codro: with the normal cd, i had to copy the hidden folders too, so that it identified the sd card as source drive for the install. not sure if the alternate cd works the same way though
[23:25] <Hentay> codro, sshd apt-cache doesn;t find :)
[23:25] <Hentay> it finds openssh-server
[23:25] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, well, the events are getting through so technically it's "working", but Nautilus and VLC don't recognize the back/forward buttons. Also, there's a button on top of it which I'm not sure what it should do (someone mentioned "back to top"), but it's never worked in Ubuntu. It registers as key 10.
[23:25] <Hentay> it is rshd replacement
[23:25] <ardchoille> Hentay:  apt-cache search sshd
[23:26] <Dominik1> are there any problems to be expected from installing ubuntu over Vista?
[23:26] <energY> Hello
[23:26] <energY> I am hosting a php torrent tracker on my laptop
[23:26] <Hentay> ardchoille, i know, i said that it doesn't find it for me
[23:26] <TwoD> If nothing else works, I was going to try evdev and remapping button 6/7 to Alt+Left/Alt+Right. But I don't think I needed that in Hardy.
[23:26] <energY> But I can't make downloads between it and the vista box, it is a private tracerk.
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: i have the buttons remapped with xmodmap. but thy worked out of the box.
[23:26] <ardchoille> Hentay:  apt-cache search sshd  >-- returns nothing?
[23:26] <mhall119> Dominik1: dual-boot or wubi?
[23:26] <Dominik1> dual-boot
[23:26] <olskolirc> can someone tell me the format to change my clock to regular 12 hour time instead of military time?  Hardy Heron
[23:27] <shane2peru> Dominik1: yes
[23:27] <olskolirc> kde
[23:27] <shane2peru> Dominik1: your computer will run faster.
[23:27] <codro> well the big problem is network-manager is not part of the pool on the iso image
[23:27] <zsquareplusc> Hentay: look for ssh-server
[23:27] <mhall119> Dominik1: you should be good
[23:27] <Hentay> ardchoille, it finds: libjsch-java - java secure channel
[23:27] <Hentay> libjsch-java-doc - java secure channel examples
[23:27] <Hentay> openssh-server - secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[23:27] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, did they actually do anything other than sending button events? They do work as back/forward in Firefox, but nowhere else.
[23:27] <shane2peru> Dominik1: you won't open to virus attacks.
[23:27] <olskolirc> can someone say my name so that I can see if im colored?
[23:27] <Dominik1> shane2peru: not benifits they are obvious, but will I have problems with boot order and such
[23:27] <ardchoille> Hentay: ah, ok
[23:27] <Dominik1> I do not want to disable vista
[23:27] <AgentHeX> YAY!  TESTDISK FOR THE WIN!
[23:27] <ping2> !hi | shane2peru
[23:28] <maxxist> olskolirc  should be able to right click on the clock and go ito properties...
[23:28] <unop> !dualboot > Dominik1
[23:28] <olskolirc> thanks maxist
[23:28] <mhall119> Dominik1: you shouldn't, Grub will let you boot windows
[23:28] <olskolirc> can someone tell me the format to change my clock to regular 12 hour time instead of military time?  Hardy Heron
[23:28] <PeskyJ> I have a 160G drive with windows on it and an empty 300G drive, I want to leave the windows installation and data and install ubuntu on the 300G drive, such that I can boot from either.. which way round should I do it?
[23:28] <noisan> I have Kubuntu 8.04 installed on my computer
[23:28] <macarno30> vista is boring
[23:28] <plouffe_> How can I change the title, album, etc info of an audio file?
[23:28] <noisan> When it upgraded to KDE4 it left KDE3.5.10 installed on the computer
[23:28] <Hentay> lsh-server and openssh-server :D and which i need? :D
[23:28] <shane2peru> Dominik1: ha ha, :)  dual booting, hmm, I did it with XP, but you shouldn't have any problems with Vista
[23:28] <noisan> so now when I enter kcontrol it edits the properties for KDE3.5.10 but I obviously want it to work with KDE4
[23:28] <administrator> hi,how go to ubuntu in the vmware?
[23:28] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: my back button ( i dont have fwd) worked as back button. but i swapped wheel button with the thumb button now. dfo you want to map the "free" buttons to specific functions?
[23:28] <noisan> My question is how do i completly remove KDE3.5.10?
[23:28] <BULLE_> noisan: afaik kcontrol isnt used in kde4
[23:28] <Dominik1> when I instaled over XP it was very smooth and just installed ubuntu, xp was still fine, it will work the same way with XP I suppose?
[23:28] <BULLE_> noisan: so run the kde4 config app instead
[23:29] <mhall119> Dominik1: I would assume so
[23:29] <plouffe_> How can I change the title, album, etc info of an audio file?
[23:29] <ardchoille> noisan: kde4 doesn't use kcontrol, the kcmshell modules are handled differently with kde4
[23:29] <noisan> BULLE_: but there are some theme properties in that are in kcontrol that doesn't exist in system settings?
[23:29] <Hentay> and there is no manuals for it :/
[23:29] <Dominik1> alright, thanks guys, just know if I install ubuntu and vista stops working my GF will chop of my nuts
[23:29] <shane2peru> Dominik1: have you had vista very long and used it?
[23:30] <BULLE_> noisan: might be, i havent used 3.x for a long time
[23:30] <PeskyJ> I think the 300G drive should be the first
[23:30] <noisan> ardchoille: that means that themes that were designed for KDE3 won't work in KDE4?
[23:30] <shane2peru> Dominik1: you may need to ahh, forgot the work, diskmaintenence, de-fragment the drive.
[23:30] <Dominik1> shane2peru: I refuse to use such shit, have you looked into the structure of vista
[23:30] <unop> plouffe_, use a tag editor
[23:30] <noisan> BULLE_: But is there any method to completly uninstall KDE3.5.10?
[23:30] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, I need them to work as normal back/forward buttons, as is done automatically in Windows, but only works in Firefox under Ubuntu. oh btw. I generated my xorg.conf using nvidia-settings, it added default CorePointer/CoreKeyboard input sections, but I guess I can remove those, right?
[23:30] <plouffe_> unop:  such as?
[23:30] <unop> Dominik1, language.
[23:30] <PeskyJ> but should I install ubuntu without the windows drive in and then add it later, or should I put both drives then install ubuntu?
[23:30] <Dominik1> unop: sorry
[23:30] <shane2peru> Dominik1: language please, I agree, though, just wipe it then, that is what I did.
[23:30] <ardchoille> noisan: the settings are done differently. you should ask in #kubuntu
[23:31] <shane2peru> Dominik1: are you working on a laptop?
[23:31] <unop> plouffe_, exfalso, cowbell, kid3, etc - you'll find loads if you search for "tag editor" in synaptic or so
[23:31] <Hentay> ok guys... good night :)
[23:31] <test_> huh
[23:31] <Dominik1> shane2peru: yes I am, I can't wipe, GF demands that Vista stays intact, just in case something doesn't work with Ubuntu
[23:31] <noisan> I am running low on HD-space and would therefore like to free-up as much as possible. And I don't like having things I don't use laying around on the ocmputer.
[23:31] <esac> i built a custom kernel on intrepid, and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in X. they work in console. any ideas ?
[23:31] <newton> test_: #ubuntu-nl
[23:32] <Hentay> #ubuntu-lt
[23:32] <shane2peru> Dominik1: is it a new laptop?  What brand?
[23:32] <ping2> is there any way to tell from command line if my network card is connected at 10mbps or 100mbps?
[23:32] <djhash> PeskyJ: keep the windows drive in.. ubuntu will see its a windows and add it to grub
[23:32] <Dominik1> shane2peru: Sonly V series
[23:32] <shane2peru> Dominik1: hmm, not real familiar with that one, have you tried the liveCD?
[23:32] <unop> ping2, sure, see the documentation for ethtool
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: well i don't know. my config does not have these sections anymore. i'd back up the xorg.conf file anyway, so you can easily roll back in case of troubles
[23:32] <Dominik1> shane2peru: good idea, I will do that
[23:32] <mhall119> anybody here ever make their own LiveCD?
[23:33] <PeskyJ> djhash: ok great :) that's perfect.
[23:33] <test_> exit
[23:33] <shane2peru> Dominik1:  just make sure your sound works, your network, probably wireless won't, make sure your video card is ok etc.
[23:33] <djhash> PeskyJ: dont change the setup of the drives.. its better to keep it the way windows recognize it.. although i dont think there will be a problem if you switch the order..
[23:33] <mynous> how can i figure out what nic i have or driver at least?
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[23:33] <mhall119> mynous: lspci will list all your pci hardware
[23:33] <ping2> unop, great thanks, that worked perfectly :)
[23:33] <mynous> thx
[23:33] <Dominik1> shane2peru: why would wireless not work? that just takes an internet connection and some updateing
[23:34] <shane2peru> Dominik1: it usually does work after some tinkering
[23:34] <mhall119> mynous: lsmod will tell you what kernel modules are loaded too
[23:34] <evan_> can someone tell my why to do if svg images have te same id's ?
[23:34] <Dominik1> man is it normal that Ubuntu has like 10 updates every day
[23:34] <olskolirc> can someone tell me the format to change my clock to regular 12 hour time instead of military time?  Hardy Heron
[23:34] <mhall119> Dominik1: at the beginning of a new release, yes
[23:34] <evan_> no there is just a new distro
[23:34] <djhash> Dominik1: if you have the 8.10 then its normal
[23:34] <mhall119> olskolirc: in Gnome?
[23:34] <olskolirc> kubuntu mhall119
[23:34] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, does your ServerLayout section mention InputDevices?
[23:34] <Dominik1> these updates really bog me down, I only have 480 ram, limited resources can't handle the update process
[23:34] <jrib> olskolirc: right click on the time applet in your panel and go to preferences
[23:35] <mhall119> olskolirc: then I don't know, doesn't KDE provide an option when you right-click the clock?
[23:35] <PeskyJ> djhash: I might want to remove the windows drive completely later on, so I'm hoping I can easily do that and the 300G drive will still boot to ubuntu
[23:35] <Socapex_2K> Hey, can we update to 8.10 from ubuntu. Or do I have to boot from burned CD
[23:35] <shane2peru> anyone have any ideas on setting up a very new sound card?
[23:35] <Dominik1> alright guys, thanks for the advice, ill be out for now
[23:35] <olskolirc> adjust time and date yes, but what is the format that i need to type in to get 12 time
[23:35] <russ> For some reason I can not mount my hard drives: any suggestions?
[23:35] <mhall119> Socapex_2K: you should be able to upgrade from 8.04
[23:35] <esac> i built a custom kernel on intrepid, and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in X. they work in console. any ideas ?
[23:35] <unop> olskolirc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190051
[23:35] <shane2peru> Socapex_2K: it is a good idea to have a CD burned, and downloaded, however you should be able to upgrade
[23:35] <jrib> olskolirc: it is there in preferences...
[23:35] <kimus> hi, i'm compiling a module from ubuntu source and build fine. but when I do a insmod it gives me a " -1 Invalid module format"
[23:36] <djhash> PeskyJ: then make sure grub gets installed in the 300G drive..
[23:36] <mhall119> olskolirc: is there a format string there for the 24-hour format?
[23:36] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: no, they were commented out
[23:36] <evilspawn4> hey can someone help me find a version of java for ubuntu 8.10? im kinda now to linux and i dont know where to go for one
[23:36] <unop> !java > evilspawn4
[23:36] <jrib> olskolirc: note that I said "preferences" and you said "adjust date and time"
[23:36] <maxxist> evil spawn4 there should be one in synaptic
[23:36] <Socapex_2K> hmmm... Would I use the normal update tool for that?
[23:36] <Socapex_2K> or apt-get
[23:36] <evilspawn4> thanks
[23:36] <olskolirc> I right click the clock and go to date and time format and im at the date and time tab
[23:36] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, ok, thanks!
[23:36] <jrib> !who | olskolirc
[23:36] <djhash> Socapex_2K: you can do a dist upgrade
[23:36] <olskolirc> i changed it from HH:MM:SS to hh:mm:ss and its still military time
[23:36] <djhash> !dist-upgrade
[23:37] <Socapex_2K> ok!
[23:37] <mhall119> evilspawn4: both openJDK 6 and Sun JDK 6 are in the repositories
[23:37] <Socapex_2K> thanks
[23:37] <shane2peru> jrib: you got any ideas on setting up sound, or where to get some help for that?
[23:37] <Guest26287> Hi, I've downloaded a package. Where is better to keep it? /usr/bin ?
[23:37] <unop> olskolirc, pH:MM:SS AMPM
[23:37] <robocop1532> I need help recovering my ttys.  I am logged into ubto gui, but I cant switch to any of the tty(1-7).
[23:37] <shane2peru> Guest26287: in your /home/username
[23:37] <eraggo> and if you are too lazy: Alt+F2 -> update-manager -d
[23:37] <mhall119> Guest26287: what kind of package?
[23:37] <jrib> shane2peru: not really.  I can point you to the wiki
[23:37] <jrib> !sound > shane2peru
[23:37] <Guest26287> shane2peru: Thanks
[23:38] <stage3> russ could you be more specific? how did you try to do it ?
[23:38] <evilspawn4> i installed one from the add/remove but java still doesnt work on my pc if thats what you were talking about by repositories mhall199
[23:38] <shane2peru> jrib: that is outdated, to my knowledge, has sound setup changed in 8.10?
[23:38] <icqnumber> The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media RTP depayloader plugin which is not installed. what package is that?
[23:38] <jrib> shane2peru: no idea
[23:38] <Socapex_2K> eraggo: maybe I am too lazy, lol
[23:38] <mhall119> evilspawn, type "java -version" from the command line and tell me what you get
[23:38] <eraggo> :D
[23:38] <bakarat> how hard is it to set up 2 (different) nvidia cards & 3 (different) screens on ubuntu 8.10?
[23:38] <russ> stage3: I go to places and then select my "media" drive and I can not access it
[23:39] <mhall119> evilspawn4: or are you talking about Java applets in Firefox?
[23:39] <eraggo> bakarat: why would you make that ?
[23:39] <evilspawn4> yea
[23:39] <iandan> mhall119: Eclipse
[23:39] <deftone> Looking to buy the HP DV5-1125NR and it's got the ATI RADEON HD 3200 graphics RS780M. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hardy supports this chip??
[23:39] <bakarat> eraggo: um, i need more screen real estate? :>
[23:39] <evilspawn4> i think
[23:39] <mhall119> bakarat: should be easy, but nVidia needs to update their drivers
[23:39] <eraggo> :D
[23:39] <stage3> russ, you have to be root to do it
[23:39] <mhall119> iandan: what?
[23:39] <PeskyJ> I'm running the live session, about to do the install, I just want to check that the 64-bittedness is working ok, because I'm using the amd64 version... how can I check?
[23:39] <zsquareplusc> bakarat: i dont know. but the nvidia-setup tool helps setting up multiple screens. i dont know if it works with more than once card too.
[23:39] <stage3> russ or mount it with sudo command
[23:39] <djhash> bakarat: can you give me a monitor? i need more screen real estate!!! :-p
[23:39] <mneptok> deftone: what will you be using this machine for?
[23:40] <bakarat> djhash: hehe :p
[23:40] <shane2peru> PeskyJ: I'm running 64bit, works fine here.
[23:40] <evilspawn4> ill just try installing all of the ones when i type in java in the search (unless that will hurt my pc if it will someone please tell me in red text)
[23:40] <russ> I have to run as root user: how do I make myself root by default?
[23:40] <shane2peru> PeskyJ: not sure what you are asking
[23:40] <Socapex_2K> any chance of seeing GRUB2 soon?
[23:40] <mhall119> evilspawn4: dont do that
[23:40] <deftone> mneptok: WoW mostly...
[23:40] <eraggo> i THINK that i use 64 bit also.....
[23:40] <ping2> !sudo | russ
[23:40] <mhall119> evilspawn4: first let's see what you already have installed
[23:40] <iandan> mhall119: You asked what kind of package. I was Guest*
[23:40] <evilspawn4> oh ok
[23:40] <zsquareplusc> eraggo: check with uname -a
[23:40] <bakarat> btw, also, are there any known problems with HDMI connections? (doubt it but just checking)
[23:40] <eraggo> ah
[23:40] <mhall119> iandan, keep it under your home directory then
[23:40] <evilspawn4> sun java 6 runtime
[23:40] <djhash> evilspawn4: just fyi.. red text is someone adding your name in the message.. check !who
[23:40] <kanuha> I removed the menu bar and added a main menu to the panel, I went into the configuration editor and clicked use custom icon, changed object type to menu-object and added the path of the custom icon, but the icon does not change
[23:40] <bakarat> the last monitor i hooked up had some problems with gfx being rendered outside the screen, but this was apparantly hardware related to the screen
[23:40] <woozzy> hi has anyone go the xbox webcam working on ubuntu?
[23:41] <PeskyJ> well just some info that says all the memory is there and the cpu is in 64-bit mode (or whatever, I don't really get the difference tbh)
[23:41] <mhall119> evilspawn4: then you have Java, what's not working?
[23:41] <mneptok> deftone: so why do you care about Ubuntu? ;)
[23:41] <iandan> mhall119: OK. Thank you too!
[23:41] <stage3> russ , perhaps if the user belong to the root group o media
[23:41] <evilspawn4> well 2 things WoW patchnotes in wine and runescape
[23:41] <eraggo> zsquareplusc:  2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:41] <amews_aj> Just reinstalled ubuntu 8.10. Tried to find compizconfig in synaptic, but wasn't there. Did update etc. still not there. apt-get install comp.... works. Still not visible though, how to get it there?
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: whyt cpu do you have? 64 bits works frin on core duo for example
[23:41] <robocop1532> I need help recovering my ttys.  I am logged into ubto gui, but I cant switch to any of the tty(1-7).
[23:41] <deftone> mneptok: i'm learning linux
[23:41] <mneptok> deftone: did Blizzard release a Linux port while i was alseep? :)
[23:41] <stage3> russ, that is a permission problem
[23:41] <jrib> !ccsm | amews_aj
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> eraggo: youre running 32 bit (i686)
[23:41] <mhall119> evilspawn4: it may not be Java that's the problem, but lack of OpenGL acceleration
[23:41] <mneptok> deftone: from what i hear, WoW and "learning" are mutually exclusive pursuits :)
[23:41] <eraggo> :/
[23:42] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: it's an athlon64 x2 6000+
[23:42] <eraggo> darn
[23:42] <deftone> i'm stlll keeping my vista partition....but i want to install ubuntu on another partition
[23:42] <chris1> anyone install a eggdrop bot on base unbuntu server?
[23:42] <jrib> amews_aj: or by "there" do you mean "synaptic"?
[23:42] <chris1> im having a problem locating libtcl.so and i have tcl instaleld
[23:42] <evilspawn4> mhall199: what is OpenGL?
[23:42] <amews_aj> jrib: I know that, but it is hidden from the synaptic, that is my problem, I know how to install manually
[23:42] <mneptok> deftone: stick with Intel graphics and wireless when using Linux (for now)
[23:42] <amews_aj> jrib: yes
[23:42] <jrib> chris1: eggdrop is in the repositories
[23:42] <maxxist> deftone do you have another empty partition?
[23:42] <deftone> but i was curious if i was gonna be able to run compizf
[23:42] <giusef> Hi all. can anyone help me configuring an ad-hoc wifi network?
[23:42] <mhall119> evilspawn4: that's the language you video card uses to draw 3D graphics
[23:42] <shane2peru> deftone: if you want to learn ubuntu, just drop in the ubuntu CD while booted into Vista, and install it that way.
[23:43] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: that should work fine. but be prepared that not all software is also easily available in 64 bits, such as flash plugin. there are solutions but its more works as when you run 32 bits
[23:43] <mhall119> Java speaks OpenGL to the video card when the driver supports it
[23:43] <ping2> !ask | giusef
[23:43] <evilspawn4> mhall199: i know thats not it cuz java works fine in windows vista
[23:43] <mhall119> WoW and Runescape probably both need that
[23:43] <shane2peru> deftone: seems to work well, and lets you boot into Ubuntu when you reboot.
[23:43] <deftone> i can't run 8.10 and compiz on what i have now...which is intel gm965
[23:43] <jrib> amews_aj: check your filters for search maybe
[23:43] <eraggo> mhall119: rs works on me :)
[23:43] <stage3> russ, if you wan to  mount it always, you have to add it in the  fstab file
[23:43] <mhall119> evilspawn4: Java supports OpenGL if the graphics card driver supports it, but the linux driver for your card may not support it
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Socapex_2K: it's in the repo
[23:43] <chris1> jrib: just under 'eggdrop'?
[23:43] <amews_aj> jrib: Everything set to all
[23:43] <shane2peru> deftone: ?  is the intelgm965 blacklisted?
[23:43] <mneptok> deftone: Compiz and my GMA965 are quite happy together
[23:43] <mhall119> evilspawn4: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[23:44] <deftone> they blacklisted intel's gm965
[23:44] <maxxist> deftone that should be able  run compiz
[23:44] <giusef> ping2: I asked for a step-by-step help
[23:44] <amews_aj> jrib: also problem with other stuff such as nvidia-glx-96
[23:44] <jrib> !info eggdrop | chris1, yes
[23:44] <chris1> dope
[23:44] <chris1> thanks
[23:44] <amews_aj> jrib: A lot seems to be missing in manager since reinstall
[23:44] <deftone> mneptok: are u on intrepid??
[23:44] <eraggo> time to visit outside...
[23:44] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Hi, Does anyone know when that issue with 8.10 not running laptop fans is going to get fixed? I am tired of my laptop overheating
[23:44] <evilspawn4> mhal119: geforce 7600GS
[23:44] <shane2peru> deftone: you should be fine I would think, generally the intel cards play nice with linux
[23:44] <mneptok> deftone: no, Hardy
[23:44] <crdlb> deftone: are you using that system with intrepid now?
[23:44] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: ok.. so flash plugin doesn't work in 64-bit mode?
[23:44] <mhall119> evilspawn4: and you;re running Intrepid 8.10?
[23:44] <mneptok> deftone: there's no reason you can;t run Hardy
[23:44] <rabe> i need some help with my notebook please... it's only running in half speed it seems...
[23:44] <deftone> i'm on hardy too.....and i can run compiz...no i'm using this system with hardy
[23:44] <maxxist> deftone also compiz should run without installing any drivers on a 965
[23:44] <evilspawn4> mhall199: yes
[23:44] <russ> stage3: what is the fstab file? geez linux has some terms to learn
[23:44] <amdpox> gma950 works smooth for compiz in intrepid here
[23:45] <mneptok> deftone: ever played EVE:online?
[23:45] <giusef> ping2: ping
[23:45] <mhall119> evilspawn4: do you have Compiz working?
[23:45] <djhash> !info fstab
[23:45] <shane2peru> rabe: how much ram do you have?
[23:45] <jrib> amews_aj: I've seen someone else have the same problem.  I don't know though since I can't duplicate it here.  Tried hitting reload? Does it say "rebuilding index"?
[23:45] <deftone> not on intrepid.....compiz doesn't work with intrepid
[23:45] <evilspawn4> mhall119: yes works like a dream ^_^
[23:45] <shane2peru> rabe: did you setup swapspace?
[23:45] <amews_aj> jrib: Yes it does.
[23:45] <No-Neck> russ, fstab lists all the filesystems to mount
[23:45] <mhall119> evilspawn4: then the driver supports OpenGL, not sure what problem Java is having
[23:45] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: not sure, i dont think so. there is an open source flash player that is and there are other ways
[23:45] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: not  heard of that issue, how old is the lap top
[23:45] <jrib> amews_aj: I'd try giving it some time to let it finish then
[23:45] <stage3> russ the fstab file said to linux what partition to mount when it init
[23:46] <amews_aj> jrib: I did
[23:46] <amews_aj> jrib: Strange, I already did that 5 times or so, now I did it again, now they show up.
[23:46] <evilspawn4> mhall119: well i had the same problem with playing wmv files in firefox for awhile but then it all of a sudden fixed itself overnight lol
[23:46] <mhall119> evilspawn4: try running WoW or Runescape from the command line.  I remember FreeCol using Java, but it was hard-coded to look for it in a path where it wasn't installed
[23:46] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: ok.. what do I lose by installing the i386 version instead then? will it be much slower?
[23:46] <ping2> giusef, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc ?
[23:46] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:46] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: several month old HP dv6000
[23:46] <sdfsdf> hi all
[23:46] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:46] <Socapex_2K> eraggo: You forgot to tell I had to enable "normal releases" in admin>software sources (update tab)
[23:46] <evilspawn4> mhall119: cant run wow right now its patching but ill try runescape...1 sec
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: hm at least the package is now there for 64 bits too. but i font have it installed (flashplugin-nonfree)
[23:47] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: There are several of us at my work having the issue
[23:47] <Socapex_2K> eraggo: It's running now :)
[23:47] <moDumass> morning all, the onlky res available in xserver settings manager is 640x480 and it sees my 19inch widescreen as a crt0 and i cant seem to change anything back to 1440x900 any ideas in this field>
[23:47] <im-pol> hi
[23:47] <kri> hi i want to grab all images from a http site what program should i use?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: so not even a year old?
[23:47] <stage3> russ look ta http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[23:47] <moDumass> kri downthemall its a plugin for firefox
[23:47] <jrib> kri: wget
[23:47] <russ> stage3: thx dude
[23:47] <esac> i built a custom kernel on intrepid, and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in X. they work in console. any ideas ?
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: it may even be faster. you will be happier with 64 bits if you have more than 3 or 4 GB of RAM. otherwise, i dont think that you gain much
[23:47] <No-Neck> OK now I have a question :p - my lighttpd set up is not serving up PHP files, it's offering them for download, I've tried setting it to /usr/bin/php-cgi and /usr/bin/php5-cgi, any other suggestions please?
[23:47] <moDumass> kri you can set it to grab certain media
[23:47] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: more than one lap top with the same issue?
[23:47] <Shadow_X> 8.10 is Intrepid Ibex, right?
[23:47] <ping2> moDumass, what is your video card?
[23:47] <mhall119> I'm still looking for someone who can help me with a customized LiveCD, anyone here?
[23:47] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: Nope, several people at my job are having the issue, there have been reports of it with other users as well
[23:48] <ping2> Shadow_X, yup
[23:48] <Shadow_X> k thanks ping2
[23:48] <moDumass> ping2 nvidia fx5950ultra
[23:48] <giusef> ping2: thanks for the link
[23:48] <im-pol> anybody can help me about installing Warcraft 3
[23:48] <icqnumber>  Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media RTP depayloader|decoder-application/x-rtp, what package do i miss?
[23:48] <rabe> i need some help with my notebook please... it's only running in half speed it seems...
[23:48] <moDumass> ping2 this change jsut happened, no updates or anything
[23:48] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo:   try Ubuntu hardy?   from Live CD and if that works :D
[23:48] <mhall119> rabe, is it running on battery?
[23:48] <robocop1532> How do I specify how a tty displays? mine don't seem to display at all after reconfiguring X
[23:49] <mynous> is there a reason to run a nic with auto-neg=off?
[23:49] <moDumass> ping2 desktop stopped responding, restarted and im in 640x480 land
[23:49] <evilspawn4> mhall199: well i tried running RS and it didnt work...i even looked in my firefox plugins for java and didnt find it
[23:49] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: 8.04 works fine, its some sort of kernel issue with the way the kernel handles the fan
[23:49] <ping2> No-Neck, maybe ask in #lighttpd
[23:49] <jrib> moDumass: did you try that setting I mentioned earlier to xorg.conf?
[23:49] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:49] <stage3> rabe  what laptop have you got?
[23:49] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:49] <mhall119> evilspawn4: are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[23:49] <EruditeHermit> hi, can someone help me with scanning? My scanner used to work with hardy, but in Intrepid, xsane crashes when I try to scan
[23:49] <No-Neck> oh, didn't know it existed, cheers ping2  :D
[23:49] <im-pol> anybody help me about wine
[23:49] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: ok I'll check it out, I have 4GB RAM
[23:49] <kri> moDumass: well their most be some program for it, if i have all urls containg pictures
[23:49] <evilspawn4> mhall119: 32 bit
[23:49] <im-pol> ?
[23:49] <ping2> moDumass, do you have restricted drivers enabled / installed?
[23:49] <ping2> !nvidia | moDumass
[23:50] <alriken> hi everyone :)
[23:50] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: well  have you got any  advantages in  Ibex over hardy?
[23:50] <jrib> No-Neck: clear the cache in your browser, restart your server
[23:50] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: Here is the bug report but so far not much is happening, "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/256299"
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: i run 64 bits too. and if i need to run 32 bit software, i have installed a chroot. that uses some disk space but i can have both words at once :-)
[23:50] <mhall119> evilspawn4: do you get any error messages?
[23:51] <evilspawn4> no
[23:51] <mhall119> what does it do?
[23:51] <moDumass> ping2, theres nothing wrong with the driver, i still have compiz running, which is random, emerald is still doing its thing too
[23:51] <evilspawn4> mhall119: no it just says i dont have java
[23:51] <ping2> giusef, sure, if there are any problems then ask :)
[23:51] <zelrikriando> I remember submitting bug reports to OO.org
[23:51] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:51] <jrib> kri: I gave you a program
[23:51] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:51] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: cool
[23:51] <zelrikriando> nothing never got fixed
[23:51] <jrib> !repeat | neuton
[23:51] <mhall119> evilspawn4: how familiar are you with shell script?
[23:51] <ikaruga2099> hi
[23:51] <kri> jrib: yeah wget then i have to to scripts for it to get the what i want
[23:51] <jrib> kri: huh?
[23:52] <kri> jrib: but i will try the firefox plugin
[23:52] <ikaruga2099> hi mclfy11
[23:52] <ping2> moDumass, hmm, do you have the nvidia x config panel installed?
[23:52] <kri> i go strait ahead i want all the pictures from (http://skins.be)
[23:52] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo:  as  expected the Ubuntu  developers are not  kernel develoeprs as we  your issue may never get fixed
[23:52] <evilspawn4> mhall199: never heard of it
[23:52] <jrib> kri: you said you had a file with the URLS.  Just feed it to wget (hint, see what the -i switch is for)
[23:52] <evilspawn4> mhall199: unless its that stuff you type in the terminal
[23:52] <moDumass> ping2 i do
[23:52] <martin_> Hi, new to Ubuntu, hope someone can help me with an install question
[23:52] <kri> i actually dont have a file with the urls i need a program to generate it
[23:52] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:52] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:53] <jrib> !who | kri
[23:53] <No-Neck> done many times jrib thanks for the advice though
[23:53] <jrib> neuton: stop repeating please...
[23:53] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: That sucks, im tired of having my laptop crash, I have to use vista for class since I need something reliable
[23:53] <kri> jrib: i actually dont have a file with the urls i need a program to generate it *
[23:53] <moDumass> and in there its recognising my lcd as a crappy crt and only giving me 640x480
[23:53] <shane2peru> !universe > rabe
[23:53] <neuton> ok
[23:53] <evilspawn4> mhall119: never heard of it unless its the stuff you type in the terminal
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> TheDeepFriedBoo: did you check if there is a bug report in launchpad? if not, make one :-)
[23:53] <jrib> kri: then checkout the -A and -r options for wget
[23:53] <Varanger> Is something happening with ATI cards and Xv ?
[23:54] <martin_> How do I install Ubuntu on my MacBook Air (without a CD drive!) ? - I have created an extra partition on my Mac but I need a way to get the install going
[23:54] <robocop1532> is there a config file for the ttys?
[23:54] <jrib> neuton: I've read your question about 3 times now and still have no clue what is wrong anway
[23:54] <dingupenguin> ello everyone
[23:54] <jrib> robocop1532: what do you want to configure?
[23:54] <alriken> i have a problem with my sound card and ubuntu hardy with teamspeak, everything works fine atm but when i talk at teamspeak i get an everlasting echo an it seems my listen device will transsmit everything to my capture device, but only with teamspeak :/ anyone had same probs or an suggestion? i have the problematic intel chip onboard :(
[23:55] <robocop1532> jrib: anything...they don't display.  I can only use the gui
[23:55] <ardchoille> robocop1532: did you install nvidia drivers?
[23:55] <dingupenguin> does anyone have asus p5n-e sli
[23:55] <jrib> martin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20Air%20using%20live%20CD
[23:56] <robocop1532> ardchoille: nope. I have been trying to get compiz to work, and succeded (and lost my ttys) but my video card is an intel
[23:56] <neuton> well I followed a guide to installe torrentflux-b4rt and I did what it said but I get that error when setting up transmissioncli for the client?
[23:56] <ardchoille> robocop1532: ah, ok
[23:56] <GodfatherofEire> Havin a few problems with Banshee at the moment, it keeps crashing every time I plug in my ZEN, any ideas?
[23:56] <jrib> martin_: sorry, that assumes a cd drive...
[23:56] <linkmaster03> After I connected another monitor to my computer and set it up, then unplugged it and rebooted, compiz is not running (no shadows, window animations, alt+tab) How do I get it running?
[23:56] <martin_> jrib: thanks, but...
[23:56] <martin_> yes, exactly :)
[23:56] <mhall119> evilspawn4: sorry, had to run off for a bit
[23:56] <jrib> !install > martin_
[23:56] <mhall119> you still here?
[23:56] <z987k> are the repos down right now or somthing?
[23:56] <jrib> martin_: I guess installing from a usb key should work
[23:56] <neuton> the only thing I did a little different was after I installed ubuntu server 7.10 I updated/upgraded the files
[23:56] <evilspawn4> mhall119: thats fine and no ive never heard of it
[23:57] <dingupenguin> does anyone have asus p5n-e sli
[23:57] <moDumass> jrb2, sorry its recognising my lcd as a crappy crt and only giving me 640x480 in xconfig manager
[23:57] <linkmaster03> z987k: no they are up
[23:57] <mhall119> evilspawn, it's like programming code
[23:57] <electro> I installed 8.10 on a 4gb Kingston USB Flash drive from the live cd and when I boot to the USB Flash Drive it says invalid or damaged partition, any suggestions?
[23:57] <evilspawn4> mhall119: i think it would just be easier to install all of em and make sure that i don't install 2 of the same thing
[23:57] <z987k> hmm, got a new netbook and I get a 404 on all the hardy repos
[23:58] <BULLE_> electro: just use the app that comes with 8.10 that creates a live flash drive for you ?
[23:58] <dingupenguin> does anyone have asus p5n-e sli
[23:58] <z987k> but internet etc is fine
[23:58] <jrib> dingupenguin: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[23:58] <mhall119> evilspawn4: I think the problem is that WoW and Runescape are looking for Java to be installed in the wrong place
[23:58] <martin_> my Mac is to new to boot from usb sadly :(
[23:58] <electro> yeah that is what I tried, I installed it from the option under the administration option on the live cd
[23:58] <TIMREICHHART> can somebody telling me why im getting this : AvantFAX database is DOWN
[23:58] <jrib> z987k: archive.ubuntu.com in your browser does not give you a 404?
[23:58] <mhall119> evilspawn4: if that is the problem, installing everything else won't fix it
[23:58] <evilspawn4> but shouldnt it be in my browser plugins?
[23:58] <z987k> nope
[23:59] <jrib> z987k: echo $http_proxy
[23:59] <J2daosh> what was the link to fixing the atheros wireless card?
[23:59] <jrib> !who | z987k
[23:59] <mhall119> evilspawn4: it should be, yes, the fact that it's not makes me think something else is going on
[23:59] <J2daosh> my hardware drivers says it is loaded and supported, yet it doesn't activate it and it doesn't pick up wireless signals
[23:59] <neuton> is there a way to see what version of transmissioncli I have installed and/or what are available in the repos...since the torrentflux-b4rt says that its not a bundled software?