/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/07/#xubuntu.txt

firsmWhy does intrepid convert my joystick into a mouse o.O?00:24
cars__Hello.  Something seems to be wrong with my partition.  I reinstalled xubuntu and used a separate partition for /home, but despite there being enough space (there should be 15GB available - 46GB volume, 30GB used), it only displays 2.6MB free.  How can I go about finding this space, and figuring out if my partition is corrupt?00:25
Spreadsheethi people01:29
Spreadsheetso im installing xubuntu01:29
Spreadsheetnow i try to get a driver for b4301:29
Spreadsheetit said01:29
Spreadsheet>.<01:29
Spreadsheetplease forgive me for my enter as a period01:30
Spreadsheetim sorry01:30
Spreadsheetit says that a file is being used by something else and it wont work01:30
homebrewciderhi, after an upgrade my display is all screwed up, now in the system>hardware drivers, it says a nvidia driver is "activated" but "not in use"01:41
ballhello aro02:14
ezzieyguywufso i'm not exactly thrilled with the custom theme in xubuntu. can anyone offer some pretty alternatives?02:15
ezzieyguywufi installed xubuntu-desktop from a clean ubuntu 8.10 install, b/c i wanted to see how much faster xubuntu would be02:15
ezzieyguywufxubuntu is nice and fast, I jsut want to make it prettier. so, any suggestions?02:16
balltinsel around your window02:16
balls/window/monitor/02:16
ezzieyguywufwhats that?02:17
ballHave you tried the xfwm Themes?02:18
ezzieyguywufi haven't found any that came with the stock install. where can i download some? and are you currently using any that are satisfying to you?02:19
batcoder-7hmm02:19
batcoder-7looks like imma have to install a windows partition02:19
ezzieyguywufNOOOOOOoooooo not WINDOWS02:20
batcoder-7i need to use Photoshop02:20
ezzieyguywufgimp?02:20
ballI arrived at Xubuntu via a similar route: added xubuntu-desktop to a stock Ubuntu install02:20
batcoder-7i am a fan of gimp02:20
ball...it has themes02:20
ballthe GIMP is a useful thing02:20
batcoder-7but gimp is no photoshop02:20
ezzieyguywufball: where do you config them from?02:20
ezzieyguywufgimp is the shiznit. i've never used photoshop and am not an intensive user of either , though, so i can't speak too much02:21
ezzieyguywufwhat is the gimp missing that you need?02:21
batcoder-7many many features02:21
batcoder-7photoshop's filters are top quality for one02:21
ezzieyguywufball: where do you edit the themes from?02:21
ezzieyguywufbatcoder: does photoshop run in wine? :-D02:22
batcoder-7not so much02:22
ballezzieyguywuf: I don't edit them, I just chose one from a list.  Give me a minute or two and I'll switch to my Xubuntu desktop02:22
ballbrb02:22
batcoder-7i guess cs2 and cs3 can work02:22
ezzieyguywufball: aight02:22
batcoder-7but it gives major problems02:22
batcoder-7like 400 mb of ram use02:22
ezzieyguywuflol, i guess with a name like 'batcoder' windows is kinda your thing right?02:22
batcoder-7i dont like windows much at all02:23
ezzieyguywufoh02:23
batcoder-7but there is some really good software made for it02:23
ezzieyguywufah well, you do what you gotta02:23
batcoder-7i cna use alot of linux stuff in it02:23
ezzieyguywufthere is. actually what i love about linux over windows is the software. sure theres a hole here or there, but i can pretty much find anything i want.02:23
ballOkay, this is me in Xubuntu02:27
ballApplications -> Settings -> Settings Manager02:28
ezzieyguywufsettings... lets see02:29
ezzieyguywufi see other then system02:30
ezzieyguywufno settings...02:30
ballDouble click on the Window Manager icon and then click on the Style tag02:30
ballScroll down to Kokodi02:30
ballThat's the Xfwm4 theme I'm using now02:30
ezzieyguywufwait, i can't find settings in the applications list02:30
ballThere are probably global Xfce themes too, but I haven't potched much with those.02:30
ezzieyguywufAH ther eit is at the top! lol02:31
ezzieyguywufso you llike the kokodi02:31
ezzieyguywufhm. i dunno, just the look overall seems 'bigger' than in the gnome installation02:31
ezzieyguywufya know what i mean?02:31
ezzieyguywufnvm, i found a way around this02:32
ballI find all modern window managers wasteful of screen realestate02:32
ball...but that's because I've lived in Blackbox for years.02:33
ezzieyguywufi see02:33
ezzieyguywufso you like blakbox? what are its advantages?02:33
ballIt's light, fast and efficient.02:35
ezzieyguywufwhats are its disadvantages (i'm kinda in the market for a new DE. i'm used to gnome though...)02:36
ballBlackbox isn't a desktop, it's just a window manager.02:36
ezzieyguywufah yes good point. as is xfce02:37
ezzieyguywufcorrect?02:37
ballNo, Xfce is a desktop02:37
ezzieyguywufi get a little confused sometimes02:37
ballXfwm is Xfce's window manager02:37
ezzieyguywufyea, xfwm02:37
ezzieyguywufso what DE do you use blakbox in then02:37
ballNone.02:37
ezzieyguywufso what does that mean, if your not running a DE. what does the DE do for me?02:38
ballIn simple, practical terms it gives you a desktop that you can launch programs or documents from, drag files around and do the other things that people are used to in a modern graphical environment02:39
ezzieyguywufso since you're only using the window manager, you don't do those things?02:40
ballthe window manager mostly puts a frame around each window, lets you move them around, iconify/minimise them and so on.02:40
ezzieyguywufand thats all you want/need?02:40
ballezzieyguywuf: usually, yes.02:41
ezzieyguywufi see02:41
ezzieyguywufwell i guess i need more than that :-D lol02:41
ballYes, most people would.02:41
ballUnless you're a hardcore unix geek, you probably want a desktop of some kind.  Xfce seems quite nice.02:42
ezzieyguywufyea its not bad02:42
ezzieyguywufi guess i'm used to gnome though, so it may not 'stick'02:42
ballIt's worth pointing out that you can use Xfwm without Xfce, if you're similarly an old fart.02:43
ezzieyguywufyea02:43
ezzieyguywufi'm not, i'm only 20 :-D02:43
ballok02:43
ezzieyguywufthanks for al lyour help!02:44
ezzieyguywufi think i'll log back into gnome02:44
ballokay.02:44
ballGnome uses a window manager too.  It used to be Enlightenment I think, but I've no idea what they use now.02:45
ezzieyguywufit changed to sawfish for a while02:45
ezzieyguywufand now they use metacity02:45
ballAh okay.02:45
ezzieyguywufreally i went and tried xfwm/xfce b/c i wanted more focus options, but xfwm seems to have less than even metacity02:45
ezzieyguywufkwm seems to have all the options i have, but it isn't compatible with gnome as far as i have learned02:46
ballfocus options?02:46
ezzieyguywufyea02:46
ballI have focus-follows-mouse02:46
ezzieyguywufi like to click to focus but not raise02:46
ezzieyguywufwhich both xfwm and metacity have02:47
ezzieyguywufbut kwm allows you to assign a right-click to raise your window, so you don't have to go searching for the title bar02:47
ballThat's strange.02:47
ezzieyguywufyou don't like that? i do :-)02:47
ballezzieyguywuf: That's never been an issue for me.02:49
ezzieyguywufah02:50
ezzieyguywufto each his own i guess02:50
ezzieyguywufanywho, i'll be loging back into gnome then installing kde-desktop to try that out. thanks for your help though02:50
ballBlackbox has a little thing that lets you flick through windows.02:50
dcolishpersonally, i'm a mouse follows + follow raise after timeout02:50
dcolishalso you can have a click on desktop to show window list02:50
ezzieyguywufi think i'm used to clicking to raise and then moving the mouse off screen, so i always lose focus when i have focus-follos-mouse02:50
balldcolish: I'm focus follows, click to raise02:51
dcolishball, I used to use click to raise, focus follows, but i wanted to cut down on my repetitive clicks02:52
dcolishit took a lot of getting used to, but now i cant live without02:52
ballI generally position my windows so that I don't have to raise that often... not that clicking is much of a chore for me ;-)02:53
dcolishyeah i had carpal tunnel issues02:53
ballhello djohngo02:53
balldcolish: ouch.02:54
djohngohi ball!02:54
* ball tries to remember how to get his VNC viewer out of full screen mode02:54
dcolishball, but i love that linux is flexible enough to allow all these styles of ui customization out of the box02:54
balldcolish: well, X11 is... it's not really Linux-specific02:55
dcolishball, very true, cant forget about bsd or solaris  or any of those other guys02:56
* ball nods02:58
balland even the non-unix X11 platforms02:58
dcolishhmm beos?03:01
ballI've not used that, but I've used X on OpenVMS and I know there was at least one X server for DOS03:02
ball...think there's  one on Netware too.03:02
ballWindows probably too.03:03
dcolishwow, its pretty prolific.03:03
ballTOS and Amiga if you want to get really obscure.03:03
ballPerhaps MiNT rather than TOS, it's been years.03:05
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ballI don't remember seeing X11 on Oberon, but it's possible someone ported it there.03:05
dcolishits been on a lot of stuff, i'm just checking out the wiki article now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System03:06
ballhello Sajuta03:07
SajutaHello. Just checking back in. I was having a hard time installing xubuntu on another computer of mine.03:08
SajutaIt took me... I think five tries to get it. I had given it up as a bad job until my mother turned it on and came to tell me it gave her an error message.03:09
dcolishHey Sajuta did you try out dsl or any other distro see if its hardware or not?03:10
ballhello dsmith_03:10
SajutaI had burnt it, was going to try... tomorrow. I had given up for the day. ;P03:10
SajutaMy mom turned on the computer and it threw an error, so I had to get back on it.03:11
SajutaApparently because it had only gotten part way through the installation, grub wasn't there and it didn't know what the heck to do to boot.03:11
Sajuta>_<03:11
dcolishYeah, oh you can still boot it if you have a grub boot disk03:11
wormsxullahello. i have a removable usb hard-disk drive and i'd like to list the partition i've set up on it to check the available space. could anyone help me with the command, please?03:11
SajutaI crossed my fingers and tried again, and this time, thankfully, it went. I had booted into the liveCD and installed from there. Ahhhh... see, I didn't even think about getting a grub disk.03:12
ballwormsxulla: does it appear on your desktop when you plug it in?03:12
wormsxullaball: yes, but only the ntfs partition appears, and i do remember making also at least one other partition03:13
dcolishSajuta, so can you boot into a console at least?03:13
dcolishwormsxulla, sudo fdisk -l03:13
wormsxullaah, thanks :)03:13
Sajutadcolish: Oh, it actually -installed- this time. Something like my fifth try at it. I have no idea why it worked this time.03:14
SajutaSo, everything's in working order, magically. =P03:14
dcolishSajuta, could have been bad partitioning, but thats great to hear you stuck with it03:14
Sajuta^_^ I had to. I felt so badly for that poor computer. Has just minimum specs to be running XP, and my mother drives that thing like a workhorse when she actually uses it.03:15
dcolishSo how is its performance now?03:15
SajutaHopefully with all the lighter apps it'll run a bit better for her.03:15
SajutaUh, well, she wanted me to boot to Windows. I have to convince her that it'll actually do -good- to use Xubuntu. She got a little familiar when I let her use my PC with Ubuntu for a while, so it can't be too hard... I hope.03:16
wormsxullahttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/570269 so that means the total disk space is 20 Gb and there are two partitions, but it doesn't tell their respective size?03:19
wormsxullait's in french, sorry for that03:19
dcolishwormsxulla, df -h03:21
wormsxulladf stands for disk... ffffff.....?03:21
dcolishwormsxulla, no looks at the man pages for df03:22
balldisk free03:22
wormsxulla:)03:22
dcolishSajuta, did your mom use that system for office type stuff? If so have her try open office... if you haven't already03:22
SajutaI had her running OO.o in Windows too. ^_^03:23
dcolishoh sweet, she should be right at home, except it will crash less :)03:23
ballHmm... I can't seem to copy and paste text03:24
Sajutaball: Trying to paste to terminal? Shift+Ctrl+V.03:24
SajutaMaybe... er... it works in Gnome terminal. :X03:25
ballTrying to copy from xterm and paste the url into Firefox03:26
SajutaShift+ctrl+C?03:26
SajutaThere's always using the menus. ;P03:26
dcolishbah menus are lame, middle click into the blank field with the text you want to copy select03:27
wormsxullahttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/570275 hmmm, so if the disk is 20Gb and /dev/sdc5 is the ntfs partition, and is 14Gb, what is /dev/sda1 and aren't some Gb missing?03:28
* wormsxulla is confused03:28
SajutaThe wheel! I forgot about that.03:29
dcolishSajuta, yeah thats that ticket, best thing ever03:29
dcolishwormsxulla, sda1 is your root disk03:30
dcolishyou can see its mounted at /03:30
wormsxullamy root disk?03:31
ballSajuta: there are no menus03:31
ballI must be doing this wrong.03:32
dcolishwell technically /root is your root folder, but in this case all your system files are under /03:32
wormsxulladcolish: err... you mean the root folder of the machine then? (the 4Gb of the eee pc i'm on)03:33
dcolishwormsxulla, yup03:33
wormsxullaso ok... on the usb disk drive, i see /dev/sdc5 which is 14Gb, but the total disk is 20Gb, so the other partition (still missing in the list) is 5Gb?03:34
wormsxulla:) i'm very silly with partitions, true03:34
wormsxullas/5Gb/6Gb or so03:34
dcolishyou have free space03:36
dcolishits a bit odd that you have two partitions overlapping also: /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc503:36
wormsxullabut it's not seen by xubuntu? i thought i had kept 5Gb or so for saving linux files on that disk03:37
wormsxulladcolish: yeah, i noticed that too, i'm confused :-(03:37
dcolishmaybe you did, but you actually need to create that partition and make it into a file system compatible with linux, which is pretty much all of them03:37
ballwarning: overlapping partitions may cause cows to fall from the sky.03:38
wormsxullai made the partition under windows, that might be the reason?03:38
wormsxullaball :)03:38
dcolishwell its not ideal... do you have any data on that drive?03:38
wormsxullayes, on the ntfs one03:39
homebrewciderunder system>hardware drivers, it says a nvidia driver is activated but not in use, how do I get it "in use" please?03:39
wormsxulla/dev/sdc5              14G   11G  2,9G  79% /media/RemovHDD03:39
wormsxulla11 Gb of data03:39
dcolishhey wormsxulla try using parted instead. might be easier for you03:41
wormsxullaman parted ? :)03:41
dcolishyup, there is good documentation on partitioning online as well03:41
dcolishif you're new to this, back up that data on that drive03:42
wormsxullai wish i could, unfortunately, my main pc (under windows) is still dead03:42
dcolishok, well this is a good tutorial: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Partition.html03:43
wormsxullathanks :)03:43
dcolishif you want to double check a command, ask us here before running. Remember if you mess  up the partitions on the drive, recovery is difficult, if not impossible03:44
wormsxullai'm not touching *anything* without asking first :)03:47
ballstupid migraine03:47
wormsxullaball: +103:47
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qilebyby04:26
newbie2356hello?05:07
newbie2356is anyone here willing to help me?05:08
newbie2356no? dang05:09
wormsxullanewbie2356: people help on precise questions, usually05:10
newbie2356yer so, do youy want to hear my question?05:11
wormsxullamoi? not particularly :p but maybe others would05:11
newbie2356well i'll go ahead and ask it and hopefully someone will answer05:11
wormsxullanewbie2356: you know, people do not require to help people05:11
newbie2356ok: basically, I need to create a folder in xubuntu, but can't. I have tried that gksudo nautilus thing but it didnt help05:12
newbie2356hi05:13
qilehi05:13
newbie2356do you know how to set xubuntu to be able to create new folders05:14
newbie2356?05:14
qile 中文  谁知道怎么播放rmvb 电影05:14
wormsxullanewbie2356: don't you have a "file / create new folder" menu in nautilus?05:17
wormsxulla(also, i thought the file manager in xubuntu was thunar, not nautilus)05:17
newbie2356dunno.. hey wait a sec just what is nautilus anyway? is it the folder/file manager?05:17
newbie2356yer it is thunar05:18
qileexit05:18
newbie2356that  must be why it didnt work (i'm new)05:18
wormsxullaso, in thunar menu: file / create a folder...05:18
newbie2356?05:18
wormsxullaopen thunar first, of course05:18
newbie2356i got the first part... ok its greyed out05:19
newbie2356and thats my problem05:19
newbie2356its greyed out so I cant use that option05:19
newbie2356i think i got it05:19
newbie2356i did it thanks for yer help05:20
newbie2356I replaced nautilus with thunar "gksudo thunar"05:20
wormsxullayes, probably your username doesn't admin rights (although you should still be able to create folders in your home, i think)05:21
wormsxullawhy do you need gksudo and not normal sudo, i don't know :p05:22
newbie2356i only have one account so it doesnt make much sense, oh well I figured it out.. cept it seems a bit inconvinient to have to go into the root account every time I want to make a new folder05:22
newbie2356i have no idea why i need gksudo...05:23
wormsxullaso you're typing commands just like that? that's *dangerous* (says she, as a newbie, too)05:23
newbie2356you wah? .. he sudo works too05:24
wormsxullaah.. man gksudo says: gksu  is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.05:25
newbie2356ok, well I'm gonna go and try and configure thonar to let my normal user account to create and delete etc files/folders05:25
batcoder-7i think i mgiht check out fluxbuntu05:29
newbie2356anyway thanks for your help. I never would have thought of the replacing nautilus with thunar wihtout it.05:30
newbie2356mm fluxbuntu05:30
newbie2356whats that again? wait dont tell me I'll go get my magazine05:30
wormsxullahmmm?05:31
newbie2356ok fluxbuntu, well no harm in trying it out05:33
newbie2356I have another question. I have no osund05:34
newbie2356sound*05:34
newbie2356I just have to install alsa so I can get it back05:34
newbie2356any tips for me?05:35
wormsxulladon't you have alsa yet?05:38
wormsxulla(you should, i think)05:38
wormsxullahmmm05:39
wormsxullamaybe not05:39
wormsxullawait, i had found a nice page about sound05:40
newbie2356no I don't have alsa yet05:42
newbie2356I'm trying to figure out how to install it05:43
newbie2356i ahve downloaded te things they want me to download am about to move it into a directory05:43
newbie2356I just made05:43
newbie2356just gotta let this darn thing load05:43
newbie2356wine was easy enough to install05:44
wormsxullahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems05:44
newbie2356ooh awesome link05:44
wormsxullawhy don't you use synaptic to install stuff?05:44
newbie2356becasue I dont know what that is05:44
newbie2356I only started using linux yesterday05:45
wormsxullaapplications / system / synaptic package manager (or something similar)05:45
wormsxullathis synaptic thingie checks every file in packages and the dependencies needed to make them work05:46
newbie2356ok so I don't have alsa installed05:46
newbie2356xfce4-mixer05:46
newbie2356instead05:46
newbie2356i think05:46
wormsxullaok, so you have something which handles sound05:47
newbie2356yer thats there the synaptic package manager05:47
newbie2356yes I do05:47
newbie2356but no sound comes out when I put my headset in05:47
newbie2356I tried it with a game, with a movie and with some music05:47
newbie2356anyway, I can now create new folders without using the sudo thonar05:48
newbie2356so.. what OS are you using?05:49
wormsxullaxubuntu gutsy (7.10) on this machine05:50
newbie2356k, the synaptic manager wont load05:50
newbie2356I clicked it and it wont open... btw do you have a pcuser useros er OS>05:51
newbie2356?05:51
wormsxullasorry?05:51
wormsxullanewbie2356: synaptic didn't prompt you for the admin password?05:53
newbie2356nope05:53
newbie2356it simply does nothing05:53
wormsxullahmm, i don't know then, it should05:53
newbie2356i could try restartin my system05:53
wormsxulla(are you sure your installation went alright?)05:54
newbie2356which installation?05:54
newbie2356of my OS?05:54
wormsxullaxubuntu05:54
newbie2356yer pretty sure05:54
wormsxullaok05:54
newbie2356kubuntu errored but xubuntu was fine05:54
newbie2356besides xubuntu is much faster... now back to this problem05:55
newbie2356im gonna restart because i have been messing around with things05:56
newbie2356ill be back on in 10 mins or so so cya05:56
wormsxullabye05:56
newbie2356hi it didnt work06:00
newbie2356ahaa! i do have alsa installed06:01
newbie2356its just not activated06:02
wormsxullawell, "activate" it and see if sound is back?06:02
newbie2356i cant its locked but wont unlock06:03
newbie2356i probably have to use some sort of command again06:03
wormsxullawhere do you see that alsa is "not activated"?06:03
newbie2356ill click the help button06:03
newbie2356its supposed to promp me for my password06:05
newbie2356but it didnt06:05
newbie2356sigh, maybe i should reinstall it06:05
wormsxullawhat, "its"?06:05
newbie2356the services settings06:06
newbie2356is supposed to prompt me for my password so that I can activate things06:06
newbie2356ill have a look on the firefox06:06
wormsxullawormsxulla>where do you see that alsa is "not activated"? ?06:06
newbie2356under applications / system / services06:07
newbie2356it isnt ticked06:07
newbie2356and its greyed so i cant tick it06:07
newbie2356maybe I can use a command to unlock it06:08
wormsxullawait06:09
* newbie2356 waits06:09
wormsxullayou *can* see what is activated or not in services, right?06:09
newbie2356yes06:09
newbie2356theyre ticked, but alsa isnt ticked06:09
wormsxullaso aumix is selected, but not alsa-utils?06:10
newbie2356yes06:10
newbie2356that is correct06:10
newbie2356brb maybe06:10
wormsxullaok. that's because alsa-utils is not installed by default, i think. but then, you should have sound06:11
wormsxullabecause i have the same on my machine, and i have sound06:11
newbie2356but it is there, so it must be installed06:11
newbie2356but thats not the point, I should be able to fiddle with the services06:11
wormsxullai'm pretty sure you can, as you can see those which are activated... unless some cannot be touched, because it would break xubuntu, maybe06:12
wormsxullabut, i don't know06:12
newbie2356this makes no sense06:14
newbie2356I wish the installation of drivers and things were a bit more straight forward06:15
newbie2356I need to find the drivers06:15
newbie2356hey only the alsa utils are installed06:16
newbie2356I need to install the drivers as well... theres my problem i think06:16
newbie2356too many errors whenever i sue a command06:21
newbie2356from a website it just coems back with errors06:22
wormsxullaerr, what?06:22
newbie2356i try to use a command which does stuff with directories but it just comes back with errors saying that directoiry does not exist06:23
wormsxullai'm confused... you said "from a website"06:23
newbie2356well they have a little thing with code in it and you copy and paste it06:24
wormsxulla?06:24
newbie2356the most confusing part about these guides is that they never start from the beginning06:24
newbie2356they start halfway though with programs already open06:24
newbie2356but dont tell you what programs to uyse06:24
wormsxullawhat are you trying to do, actually?06:25
newbie2356im tryibng to install alsa06:25
newbie2356thats all06:25
newbie2356now software sources isnt working06:26
newbie2356what the hell06:26
newbie2356stuff oit i think im gonna reinstall xubuntu06:26
newbie2356ill be back on in about an hour or so.. thanks for your help06:27
Tidirium_now I have boot to the install process for xubuntu 8.10 - but it says there is a problem to detect the codename of the release..07:35
Tidirium_what I can do to fix the detection of the codename?07:36
xxploitquestion, anyone else have a problem where if you disable the bootsplash and use concurrent booting that all boot text is double on the screen?07:40
soren"concurrent booting"?07:51
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coldhaki sort of wanted to see how much the system could run at once, so i ran a whole bunch of applications at once, and now my desktop menus and icons don't show up08:10
coldhaki break something?08:11
coldhaki was running f-spot, firefox and WoW via wine08:11
coldhak...somehow "allow xfce to manage your desktop" became unchecked08:13
xxploitsoren: yes08:14
sorenxxploit: Thanks, that's very helpful.08:16
xxploit......?08:17
xxploitsoren: o I took your question the wrong way, my bad. Concurrent booting as in changing init.d/rc from Concurrency=none to Concurrency=shell08:19
newbie2356wow yer still on09:50
newbie2356ooh 22 updates09:50
anandrunning xubuntu 8.10. crossover 7.01, MS office 2007. can't set the file associations. applications>other shortcunts dont work09:52
anandsomebody, any body help09:56
newbie2356hey09:59
newbie2356I'm sorry but I cant help you as I am really new to ubuntu.. poh hey i gotta restart cya10:00
anandthanks anyway10:00
coldhakanand, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819286 ?10:16
coldhakcan't seem to find the file it stores it in. really should be here somewhere10:25
samuhi,10:55
knomelo10:55
samuI have just installed xubuntu 8.10 at the first HD in my computer. It is working fine, but it doesnt recognize neither the other HDs or the local network. What can I do? Someone can help me?10:58
knomesamu, which filesystems does the other hds use?10:59
coldhakfor the hds, you could probably manually mount them. they're probly named sda1/sda2/hda1/hda2 depending on type of connector10:59
knomesamu, you can access network, right? are the other computers windows machines?11:00
samuthe other hds are NTFS.11:02
knome!ntfs11:02
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE11:02
coldhaknifty bot11:02
samuthe other computers are both windows/ubuntu11:02
samubut now the windows is working on them11:03
knomesamu, what output do you get if you issue "ping [ubuntu-machine-name]" on terminal?11:04
knomei have to go. i hope somebody can get you further with this. bye ->11:05
samuunknown host11:06
samubye11:06
newbie2356hey11:24
coldhakhi, i presume you came here for something?11:24
newbie2356course11:26
newbie2356why wouldnt I have?11:26
newbie2356its a simple question11:27
newbie2356how do I add a package with synaptic package manager? I tried adding it, then I tried adding the fodler after extracting the bz2.tar.. thing11:27
newbie2356i downloaded alsa11:27
newbie2356the driver anyway11:27
newbie2356and now I want to add it but it doesnt want to11:28
firsma tarball is not a debian package11:28
firsmalsa is included in ubuntu anyway11:28
newbie2356im using xubuntu11:28
coldhaka bz2.tar would be if you're compiling from source. synaptic doesn't do that.11:28
newbie2356yer but the drivers arent11:28
newbie2356well how do I compile from source?11:28
firsmread the readme that came with the tarball11:29
newbie2356...11:29
newbie2356no help there. no readme11:30
coldhakperhaps it's inside the tarball11:30
newbie2356stupid linux now the desktop settings is broken11:30
coldhak...how'd you manage that?11:31
newbie2356i have absolutely no idea what a tarball is11:31
newbie2356is it the tar.bz2?11:31
coldhak.bz2.tar = tarball11:31
firsmyes, and if you have no idea maybe you're better off using the alsa drivers shiped with ubuntu11:31
newbie2356because i extracted that and looked inside it. and thats what i mean by its not there11:31
newbie2356well thats the problem11:31
newbie2356I have no sound11:32
newbie2356and I cant live without sound11:32
coldhakah, and that's the real problem.11:32
newbie2356hmm11:32
firsmyes, but I bet it's not because you're missing drivers11:32
juanantonioHello. Can anyone send me the torrent to download 8.04? I prepared a ISO CD with 8.10, but maybe the PC where I want to install it does not support this version11:32
firsmthis isn't like download the driver, double click it and there you go11:32
newbie2356double click what11:33
newbie2356juanantonio, try and reburn the 8.10 iso and test again11:34
newbie2356back to my question, double click what?11:34
firsmI said it's not like that.11:34
newbie2356I figured that out11:34
juanantonioNo, no, thing is that I want to install it to a 500 MHz, and maybe I will need an older version11:34
newbie2356thats pretty slow you should try fluxbuntu11:34
newbie2356firsm, if its not like that. then what is it like?11:35
juanantonioFluxbuntu? Never heard of it11:35
newbie2356its a really low end machine OS11:35
firsmit's just ubuntu with fluxbox11:36
newbie2356www.fluxbuntu.org11:36
juanantonioOk, thank you for the link11:36
newbie2356its the fastest ubuntu available11:36
firsmnewbie2356: dig into the problem and see why it isn't working, maybe the channels are just muted or the modules were loaded with wrong parameters11:36
newbie2356firsm: i turned the volume up to max, and made sure everything was activated11:37
firsmnewbie2356: if you can turn the volume up, then the drivers have been loaded anyway11:37
newbie2356so why dont I have sound then?11:37
newbie2356I think its the alsa service11:37
newbie2356its deactivated11:37
firsmnah, then you'd have no volume controls.11:38
newbie2356should i turn the aumix service off when I activate the alsa util one?11:38
firsmpaste the output of amixer to some pastebin11:38
firsmthen I wiill require less crystal ball skills11:38
newbie2356how do I do that?11:38
firsmopen a terminal, type amixer and paste it to some pastebin11:39
newbie2356er pastebin?11:39
coldhakhttp://www.pastebin.com/11:39
firsmhttp://dpaste.com/11:39
newbie2356http://pastebin.com/mbd0ae8c11:40
newbie2356is that what you wanted me to do?11:41
firsmindeed11:41
newbie2356ignore the fact that volume is turned off, I just turned it up.11:42
firsmeven the master?11:43
newbie2356everything is up11:43
newbie2356uim gonna test it11:43
firsmif in doubt, use alsamixer from the terminal11:44
newbie2356oh hey thats new11:44
newbie2356the alsa volume mixer symbol appeared in the top right corner11:44
newbie2356wait no its not11:45
newbie2356its just the media player (im such a noob at this)11:45
newbie2356hey sounds back11:45
newbie2356yay11:45
newbie2356now to test something else11:45
newbie2356Ahaa! i am a genius... well not really but still11:47
coldhakaccidental fixes++11:47
newbie2356deactivating the aumix service and activating the alsa one fixed my problem.. I jsut reactivated aumix and sound went again11:47
newbie2356thanks for yer help11:48
newbie2356im gonna go celebrate11:49
newbie2356alright cya all ill be back tomorrow with more problems11:55
iMaxanyone experienced issues with the latest compiz update?12:56
iMaxmy panel freezes and I do not see any apps in the taskbar12:58
iMaxmenus work fine though, just now "redraws"12:58
iMaxno12:58
IndoctrineI want to disable my touchpad... how?13:03
gourdcaptainI'm having a problem with unmounting drives. If I unmount it, then remove it, it reappears on the desktop, thunar, and open/save dialogues as a broken link. I can remove these by waiting for them to show up after unmounting the drive and unmounting them too, but I shouldn't have to do that.15:32
viddgourdcaptain, have you ruled out the "save session" as a possible cause?15:34
gourdcaptainvidd: I never check that.15:34
viddso...then "yes...you have ruled that out"15:34
gourdcaptainI have once (by accident), but unchecking that should keep it from doing it in the future, right?15:34
viddno15:35
gourdcaptainvidd: Sorry. SHould have phrased that better.15:35
viddyou should remove that stored session15:35
gourdcaptainvidd: How?15:35
viddit is saved somewhere in your home directory (not exactly sure where)15:35
viddalso, you want to make sure those mount points are not listed in your fstab15:37
gourdcaptainRemoved session files from a location found in a google search.15:39
* gourdcaptain is waiting for a download to finish, and then will restart xfce.15:39
viddgourdcaptain, if this dont fix you up....im out of ideas =\15:40
gourdcaptainThanks, though. I started having the problems when I upgraded to Intrepid Ibex.15:40
* gourdcaptain just checked fstab. Only my hard drive and my cd-rom drives listed.15:40
viddive had issues myself on a few systems.....15:41
vidd\i have to do a data back-up on one then do a fresh install15:41
* gourdcaptain is going to quit. Will rejoin if need more help. Thanks.15:41
faulihi everybodeeey :D15:43
viddhello fauli15:45
faulihey vidd, sup mate :D15:46
viddnot much15:46
fauli:D15:46
viddneed some help? or you here to dish out the extra helpings?15:46
vidd=]15:46
fauli:D i'm always the one to need :)15:46
fauliatm i'm trying to turn off my notebook's touchpad15:47
faulibut failing hard as usual15:47
viddone sec....i just saw a good howto about that....15:47
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FauLiif its about this xorg.conf - thingie, the part about the touchpad is mysteriously missing :D15:48
viddFauLi, all that stuff is handled by HAL now...not xorg15:49
FauLi:D wat15:49
FauLii googled the touchpadstuff and everybody was like, yeah xorg etc15:49
viddif you enter it into xorg, it SHOULD over-ride HAL15:50
viddFauLi, try this command: synclient TouchpadOff=115:51
FauLihow to enter it into xorg? pasting in xorg.conf?15:51
viddFauLi, dont touch xorg yet15:51
vidddid that command disable the touchpad for you?15:51
FauLijust enter it in console?15:52
viddyes15:52
FauLiCan't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?15:52
viddok....15:52
gourdcaptainWell, that didn't help.15:53
viddso you need to edit your xorg.conf file....15:53
FauLi:D okay, tell me what to do15:53
viddFauLi, add this to your xorg.con: http://pastebin.com/m57b8bf6e15:54
viddFauLi, then restart X and try to enter that command again15:55
FauLihow to restart x? :)15:55
viddto restart X : [ctrl]+[alt]+[BKSPC]15:56
viddor sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart15:57
FauLioki :D i cant access my xorg.conf i guess15:57
FauLiroot only ^^15:58
viddFauLi, sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg15:58
viddFauLi, sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:58
FauLiah :) ty15:58
viddsudo is your gateway to root =]15:58
viddgksu works as well15:59
viddbrb15:59
faulistill same :(16:03
fauliCan't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?16:04
faulibrb16:06
viddsorry fauli16:19
faulinp :)16:20
jurttihi. I'll promise that I will write down the proper command for this at this time, but: how do you start the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?16:22
viddjurtti, update-manager -d16:23
viddfauli, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=611930416:24
jurttiok, thaks! ;D16:24
faulithx16:27
nunuhey all, my friend reports to me that someone is controlling his desktop (like vnc ) but I'm damn sure that I diabled the remote desktop somewhere in the settings :/ what could be wrong? the system ist up to date17:20
viddnunu, have him fista nd formost....disconnect the system from the internet....and then change his user password17:22
viddalso, regenerate his ssh key, re-disable root login, and possibly install rkhunter (sudo apt-get install rkhunter)17:23
nunununu, have him fista nd formost <- didn't quite get that17:25
nunuwhat means fist and formost?17:27
vidd*first & foremost* [do this before anything else]17:27
nunuah ok17:28
nunuok thx then I'll try that =)17:28
* vidd needs to replace his keyboad....spilled coffe and keyboards don't mix!17:28
* charlie-tca nods at vidd :-)17:29
charlie-tcaI was wondering about fista nd formost, too17:29
viddthe "r" and "e" keys are sticky =\17:30
charlie-tcaMakes sense now; next time leave out the sugar17:31
viddheh....the coffee is the suga delivery system17:31
viddXD17:32
charlie-tcaYea, but no sugar is not sticky ;)17:32
viddthen i might just as well dring water17:32
charlie-tcaOH! I drink for the caffeine...17:33
* vidd gets his caffeine from a IV drip17:33
charlie-tcaProbably works better than drinking, too17:33
jannottWee! Upgrade complete (Y)18:34
charlie-tca:-)18:35
jannott!seahorse18:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about seahorse18:39
jannottWhat? Synaptic uses only one core? :(18:48
viddjannott, what do you mean?18:57
jannottWhen i hanged up/crashed the synaptic accidentally, only one core out of two were used 100%. :D19:00
jannottUh. Firefox looks so ugly after a upgrade. How can i get the old look back?19:02
prohnahello19:04
prohnaanyone around?19:05
vidd!hello19:05
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!19:05
vidd!ask19:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:05
prohnaim trying to change the colors of windows and xfce panel19:05
prohnawhen i install a theme the most i can get is that the title bar changes19:05
prohnainstalling any gtk themes does nothing19:06
jannottNice. Got kernel panic :)19:19
jannottHmm. 2.6.27-7 kernel entry is missing initrd part. :O Time for a another restart19:25
jannottNew kernel is working. It looks like i'm missing some gnome library or something.19:31
ciapsadmHi19:51
jannott!hello19:52
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!19:52
jannott:D19:52
deus_update-manager says i got to little space to do an dist-upgrade20:24
deus_but i got plenty20:24
Grey_Lokideus_, how much is 'plenty'?21:11
coldhaka df -h should tell21:15
coldhak"plenty"?21:15
spowneyhey guys, is there a way to make the panel not automatically on top?21:27
TeXnicerspowney, hm, like bottom?21:31
spowneyyeh sorry was reading some guide, basically I want it on the most backwards layer21:34
spowneyjust read this from a panel guide but i cant find these options21:34
spowneyPosition21:34
spowneyLayer21:34
spowney    The panel layer determines its behaviour relative to other windows. The panel can be always below or above other windows or act the same as other windows. By default the panel will be on top.21:34
spowneyalso wondering how to change right click on the window border so it minimizes21:37
Spreadsheethello21:40
Spreadsheethow would i change the default shell i use?21:41
spowneyspreadsheep: type unname -a or -r into a terminal a for all info r for kernel21:43
spowney***spreadsheet21:43
spowneysorry unbelievable amount of spelling errors in that, sorry tiny eepc keyboard21:44
Spreadsheetk21:44
spowneythe command is uname -a21:44
Spreadsheetok i did that21:45
spowneysound21:45
Spreadsheet?21:45
Spreadsheetsound?21:45
Spreadsheethello? spowney ?21:50
spowneyhey sorry reading guides tryin to sort some problems out21:51
spowneyits slang for everything being good21:51
spowneysorry21:51
Spreadsheetk21:52
Spreadsheetso how would i change my default shell?21:52
spowneywhat are you wanting to change? as far as I know the best way to safely replace a kernel is to install it with aptitude21:53
spowneyor a deb package21:53
Spreadsheetwhat?21:53
spowneybut im really only a noob21:53
spowneyapt-get21:53
Spreadsheeti do not want to replace a kernel!21:53
spowneywindow manager?21:53
Spreadsheeti want to have zsh as default instead of bash21:53
spowneyah lol21:54
spowneysorry as I said just a noob21:54
Spreadsheetok21:54
spowneyno idea sorry21:54
Spreadsheet:)21:54
knome!shell21:54
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal21:54
knome!bash21:54
Spreadsheetknome: thats for gnome and kde though...21:55
knomeSpreadsheet, sure. i was just browsing the factoids if they would have had some useful info.21:56
knomeSpreadsheet, i suppose you have installed zsh already?21:56
Spreadsheetok21:56
Spreadsheetyes21:56
spowneywhere is the xfce4 panel config directory?22:13
Odd-rationaleSpreadsheet: you can change you shell two ways. first as user "chsh -s /bin/zsh spreadsheet" second as root "sudo usermod -s /bin/zsh spreadsheet"22:16
Odd-rationalewhich ever you perfer22:16
Spreadsheetk22:19
SpreadsheetOdd-rationale: hi there :)22:19
Spreadsheetyou're from ##Club22:19
Odd-rationaleno, i'm from the internet22:20
Spreadsheetk...22:21
Spreadsheethi again22:29
Spreadsheethow do i install a theme?22:29
Spreadsheet>.<22:29
knome!themes22:29
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy22:29
Spreadsheet< such a noob22:29
Spreadsheetok22:29
knome!changethemes22:29
ubottuThemes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/  To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites22:29
Spreadsheetk22:30
knomenp. great you're enjoying xubuntu.22:30
Spreadsheeti do not have the hidden file .themes!22:31
Spreadsheet:O22:31
Odd-rationaleSpreadsheet: make it ! :P22:31
Spreadsheetk22:31
Odd-rationaleit is a dir, btw22:31
Odd-rationalenot a file22:31
Spreadsheeti know, im not a noob22:31
Spreadsheethmm so i got this one theme22:33
Spreadsheetit has two directories22:33
Spreadsheetin the tgz22:33
Spreadsheetaxe and axe rounded22:34
Spreadsheetaxe is the name of the theme22:34
knomethey are two separate themes22:34
Spreadsheetk22:34
knomeyou can copy them both to the .themes -dir22:34
Spreadsheetok22:34
Spreadsheetnow how do i change it?22:35
Spreadsheetthe theme22:35
knomesee the message earlier :)22:36
Spreadsheetk22:36
Spreadsheetyeah i have unpacked it to .themes22:36
Odd-rationaleapplications --> settings --> settings manager --> unser interface22:36
knomeOdd-rationale, unser?)22:36
Spreadsheetits not there22:36
Spreadsheetuser interface22:37
Odd-rationaleuser*22:37
Odd-rationaleumm... i forgot then...22:37
Spreadsheetk22:37
Odd-rationalebut it is in the settings manager somewhere... :P22:37
Spreadsheetk22:37
knomeshould be where Odd-rationale pointed22:38
Spreadsheetstrange22:38
Odd-rationaleknome: it is user interface?22:38
knomeOdd-rationale, yes.22:38
Odd-rationalek. i guess i did remember. :)22:39
knomeSpreadsheet, two shirts with ties?22:40
Spreadsheetyes22:40
knomefound it?22:40
Odd-rationaleSpreadsheet: you found userinterface, but the theme is still not listed?22:41
Spreadsheetno...22:41
Spreadsheetim not sure if its a vaild theme even22:41
Spreadsheetbut its popular22:41
knomewhere did you get it?22:41
Spreadsheetits axe on xfce-look22:42
Odd-rationaleSpreadsheet: can you pastebin "ls -lR ~/.themes" ?22:42
Spreadsheetk22:42
Odd-rationaleSpreadsheet: oh wait... it is a xfwm theme?22:42
Spreadsheeti think22:43
Spreadsheetyes22:43
Spreadsheetoh22:43
Spreadsheetso now you're gonna say: then do something else22:44
Spreadsheethehe22:44
Odd-rationalewell, i've heard of this issue before, it is in the xfce forums. but a fix was not mentioned... basically it was a problem with install xfwm4 themes...22:45
charlie-tcaIs it under window manager?22:45
Spreadsheethmm?22:45
Spreadsheetwait whoa22:46
Spreadsheetnvm then22:46
Spreadsheetthe Default theme is good22:46
Spreadsheetthe one ive been looking for all along22:46
alessiofachechiHi!! On my xfce there are seconds in that my keyboard and touchpad don't function..For example when I write a word, one or two letters are not inputted!!22:54
alessiofachechiDoes anybody help me?22:54
TheSheepalessiofachechi: any errors in dmesg?22:54
alessiofachechione second :)22:55
TheSheepopen a terminal, type 'dmesg | less' and look for somehting suspicious22:55
alessiofachechiTheSheep, i as searching22:58
alessiofachechihttp://rafb.net/p/DbMxVO70.html22:58
alessiofachechiwas*22:58
alessiofachechii've non founded anything22:58
TheSheepalessiofachechi: is it somehow predictable or comepletely random?23:00
alessiofachechirandom23:00
TheSheepalessiofachechi: do the letters appear later, ot are they lost?23:00
TheSheeps/ot/or23:00
alessiofachechilost23:00
TheSheepwhen that happens, are the LEDs on the keyboard working?23:01
TheSheepnumlock and capslock led23:01
alessiofachechiTheSheep, i had openbox after xfce.. in openbox i had xfce4-panel d panel.. and there i had the same problem :(23:01
alessiofachechino..23:02
alessiofachechileds are blank23:02
alessiofachechi(excuse me for my english..i'm italian)23:02
TheSheepdoes it happen in text console too?23:02
alessiofachechiwait a second..but i don't think23:03
alessiofachechiTheSheep, yes..23:03
alessiofachechialso there i've the same problem23:04
alessiofachechiit could be xorg input system23:04
alessiofachechiit's true?23:04
alessiofachechibut olnly with xfce and openbox(with xfce panel)23:04
TheSheepalessiofachechi: when you swothc to text-only console with alt+ctrl+f1 (go back with alt+ctrl+f7), does that happen too?23:05
TheSheepswitch23:05
alessiofachechiemh23:06
alessiofachechiyes23:06
alessiofachechiit happen also in the text-only console23:07
alessiofachechi:(23:07
TheSheepthen it's not related to X23:07
TheSheepit's probably a hardware problem23:07
alessiofachechiTheSheep, but..23:07
TheSheepor something with kernel support of your keyboard23:07
alessiofachechiwith gnome i had not this problem23:07
alessiofachechithis is what i'm not understading23:08
psilocydehi folks, new to xubuntu. was hoping someone could point me to an "install guide" sort of resource. Something allong the lines of "I just installed xubuntu 8.10, now what?". Something with sugested software install info and the like.23:09
knomepsilocyde, all the "suggested software" is already installed.23:09
knomepsilocyde, if you need help with something specific for starting out, feel free to ask any question23:10
TheSheep!guide23:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about guide23:10
TheSheephttps://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html23:10
psilocydethanks for responding knome folks.23:10
knomemy stomach hurts.23:10
Spreadsheetthis is strange23:10
knomeTheSheep, wow, that's outdated...23:11
Spreadsheeti right click in Terminal23:11
TheSheepknome: it's a wiki ;)23:11
alessiofachechiTheSheep, in the xorg log: (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device reopened after 10 attempts.23:11
Spreadsheetand a menu pops up, its transparent but it has no shadow23:11
Spreadsheeteverything else does23:11
knomedoesn't justify it being over 2 years old ;)23:11
alessiofachechithis also for makintosh mouse button emulaion ..23:11
TheSheepalessiofachechi: maybe try to google for that error23:12
dcolishyou guys know about using fdi23:12
alessiofachechiTheSheep, it is not an error: (II) at the beginning of the sentence23:12
TheSheepalessiofachechi: Bug #285323 loks like it has something to do with it23:13
dcolishif you're configuring input devices for 8.10, xorg is a no no. Look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input23:13
knomebug 28532323:13
knomehmm...23:13
alessiofachechiTheSheep, you could say me in ENGLISH best keywords for a google research about these problem?23:13
TheSheepalessiofachechi: http://www.google.com/search?q=keyboard+Device+reopened+after+10+attempts23:14
alessiofachechi(my english is not so good)23:14
TheSheepknome: wonder why ubotu doesn't pick it up23:14
alessiofachechithanks :)23:14
knomeTheSheep, yes, exactly23:14
TheSheepalessiofachechi: this looks relvevant: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1057307.html23:15
TheSheephttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/21692723:15
psilocydeas for specifics, i need info on "making the web work" i.e. making web multimedia work corectly inclding but not limited to flash, java, streaming media like .rm, .wma, ,divx, ,mp3/4 that sort of stuff.23:17
TheSheep!mp3 | psilocyde23:17
ubottupsilocyde: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:17
psilocyde"unsupported"23:17
TheSheep!java | psilocyde23:17
ubottupsilocyde: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository23:17
TheSheep!flash | psilocyde23:17
ubottupsilocyde: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash23:17
psilocydety23:17
alessiofachechiTheSheep, i've rebooted..that lines are always in the xorg log but now the problem doesn't happend23:48
alessiofachechii think that is any software that creates conflicts23:48
TheSheepalessiofachechi: I have no idea how to check it other than by trial and error23:48
alessiofachechiuffffffffff23:50
alessiofachechi:'(23:51
TheSheepalessiofachechi: but if you identify the source of your problems, please report a bug23:53
SajutaHey. I was wondering, if I have Ubuntu installed and I wanted to try out using Xfce instead of Gnome, how would I go about that? I saw mention of it once, and now totally can't remember.23:57
SajutaWould I have to install Xubuntu to another partition? Or is it that I would get the xubuntu-desktop and do something that way?23:58

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