[00:47] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: bug 295388
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> bug 293081
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> I can haz sponsor?
[02:51]  * JontheEchidna patents the LOLdev
[02:53] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Is there a pending merge for kdepimlibs too?
[02:53] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: already uploaded
[02:54] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: OK.  I'll have a look.
[02:55] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: You've tested this?
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> yes
[02:58] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Is this already fixed in 4.2?
[02:58] <JontheEchidna> Yup, it was forward-ported to trunk
[02:59] <ScottK> OK
[03:00] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I got it.  I have to run out shortly to pick up a kid from ice skating, but I'll get it done.
[03:00] <JontheEchidna> k thanks
[03:03] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee :)
[03:03] <nixternal> you and I got Friday! :P
[03:14] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Build it started.  Back later.
[03:14] <JontheEchidna> ttyl
[03:28]  * JontheEchidna out
[04:10] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[09:14] <glade88> kde 4.1.3 on hardy can be installing it from ppa? (deb intrepid main repo)
[09:20] <NCommander> Hobbsee, ping
[10:34] <Hobbsee> NCommander: contentless pong.
[10:35] <Hobbsee> nixternal: indeed!  It should be interesting.
[10:35] <Hobbsee> nixternal: mind you, i don't know how much signage and stuff we'll be doing - if people don't know their way around by friday....
[10:35] <Hobbsee> nixternal: besides,i'm the sort of person who would probably need the signs!
[10:35] <NCommander> Hobbsee, care to upload something for me?
[10:36] <Hobbsee> NCommander: depends what it is
[10:36] <NCommander> patch to fix FTBFS/dep-wait in main for alsa-plugins?
[10:38] <Hobbsee> jaunty, i hope?
[10:38] <NCommander> yup
[10:39] <NCommander> its a critical bug
[10:39] <NCommander> Hobbsee, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/295278
[10:57] <Hobbsee> critical.  on jaunty at this point?
[10:57] <Hobbsee> anyone running jaunty now is absolutely mad.
[11:03] <Hobbsee> NCommander: sponsored
[11:03]  * NCommander hugs Hobbsee 
[15:26] <nixternal> Hobbsee: haha, I will need the signs as well :)
[15:27] <nixternal> good morning Kubuntu!!!
[15:34] <Nightrose> good morning nixternal :)
[15:34] <Nightrose> how are you?
[15:37] <Riddell> morning nixternal, afternoon Nightrose
[15:37] <Nightrose> :)
[15:48] <ScottK> Good $TIMEOFDAY all.
[15:49] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you please accept the kdepimlibs in intrepid-backports.
[15:52] <Riddell> ScottK: what's new in it?
[15:53] <ScottK> Fixes a bad memory leadk in Knode IIRC.
[15:54] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^
[15:54] <Riddell> so it does, accepted
[15:54] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:55] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: ^^^ kdepimilbs accepted.
[15:55] <nixternal> so, what do we need to start working on here? taking a look at the merges wiki page and it looks complete for the time being
[15:55]  * nixternal checks out MoM
[15:55] <Riddell> nixternal: there's all the extragear ones
[15:56] <Riddell> I don't know if MoM is up to date yet
[15:56] <ScottK> It looks at unstable and not experimental anyway.
[15:56] <nixternal> ya
[15:58] <ScottK> IIRC smarter was looking at modifying DaD to look at experimental.
[15:59] <lex79> system settings -> accessibility crashes and there isn't log
[15:59] <lex79> in 4.1.3
[15:59]  * ScottK tries
[15:59] <nixternal> works here
[16:00] <ScottK> Here too.
[16:00] <lex79> here no :(
[16:01] <Riddell> lex79: anything in /var/crash ?
[16:01] <lex79> a moment
[16:01] <lex79> no, there isn't
[16:02] <ScottK> lex79: Do you have kdebase-dbg installed?
[16:02] <lex79> no ScottK
[16:03] <ScottK> My thought would be install the debug package and then see what happens when it crashes again.
[16:03] <lex79> ok ScottK, thx
[16:05] <ScottK> I just had to add libphonon-dev, libxft-dev, libxcursor-dev, and libsm-dev to build-dep for a plasmoid to get it to build in Jaunty.  Builds fine in Intrepid.  Did we change something on purpose?  Most of those things seem to be things all plasmoids will need.
[16:06] <nixternal> argh...can't remember my debian svn password
[16:06] <nixternal> err...not a password issue...damn you ssh keys!
[16:06]  * nixternal fires up the laptop with access
[16:06] <Riddell> ScottK: compare kdebase-workspace-dev, maybe we dropped -dev depends we shouldn't
[16:07] <ScottK> Riddell: Will do.
[16:10] <ScottK> Riddell: The updated merged version FTBFS and so what's there is still the same.
[16:10] <larsivi> hi - I see my knode bug has had the fix released :) but how can I install it, it doesn't show up in the updates :P
[16:11] <ScottK> larsivi: It shouldn't have been marked fix released.
[16:12] <larsivi> :/
[16:12] <ScottK> larsivi: It's just been uploaded to intrepid-backports as part of the 4.1.3 update.
[16:12] <larsivi> ok, but I think I have backports enabled
[16:13] <ScottK> OK.  Then you'll get it, but it will take some time to build and be copied to the mirrors.
[16:13] <larsivi> I do get kdelibs from backports now for instance
[16:13] <larsivi> ok, thanks :)
[16:17] <ScottK> Then you'll get it eventually.
[16:19] <ScottK> Riddell: It looks like kdebase-workspace in Jaunty may be missing a build-dep or something in QT has changed.  I don't know enough about QT to tell, but I think it's worth a look at the build log.
[16:20] <ScottK> larsivi: For i386 there's no buildd backlog.  It's building right now.
[16:33] <Riddell> ScottK: entirely possible
[16:33] <Riddell> what brings in libsm-dev ?
[16:34] <Riddell> libqt4-dev should
[16:34] <ScottK> OK.  plasmoid-cpuload is where I had the problem.
[16:35] <Riddell> yep, libqt4-dev looks like the culprit
[16:37] <lex79> I installed kdebase-dbg but no log or backtrace, other ideas ScottK?
[16:37] <ScottK> lex79: I'd create a new user and see if it has the same problem.
[16:38] <lex79> ok
[16:38] <Riddell> ScottK: uploading fixed qt4
[16:39] <ScottK> Riddell: Great.
[16:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Was that the culprit for kdebase-workspace too?
[16:42] <Riddell> ScottK: yes if it's the libsm-dev issue
[16:43] <ScottK> No.  It was different.
[16:43]  * ScottK gets the build log.
[16:45] <ScottK> Riddell: The deadly line in the build log is sipplasmapart4.cpp:2620: error: no matching function for call to 'Plasma::PanelSvg::paintPanel(QPainter*&, const QPointF&)' /build/buildd/kdebase-workspace-4.1.2/libs/plasma/panelsvg.h:196: note: candidates are: void Plasma::PanelSvg::paintPanel(QPainter*, const QRectF&, const QPointF&)
[16:46] <lex79> same issue with an other user :(
[16:47] <ScottK> lex79: I'm out of ideas then.
[16:47] <lex79> ya...
[16:48] <Riddell> meh, what's that about
[16:48] <ScottK> Riddell: I need to run off, but kdebase-workspace FTBFS on all archs.
[16:48] <ScottK> Riddell: Which, mine or lex79?
[16:49] <Riddell> kdebase-workspace
[16:49] <Riddell> I'll look into it
[16:50] <ScottK> Great.  Thanks.
[17:08] <smarter> [16:58:15] <ScottK> IIRC smarter was looking at modifying DaD to look at experimental.
[17:08] <smarter> yup, but DaD is currently broken due to snapshot.debian.net being out of data
[17:08] <smarter> hopefully this should be fixed soon
[17:08] <ScottK> smarter: Ah.  MoM code is also on Launchpad.
[17:09] <ScottK> And is GPL (now)
[17:09] <Riddell> yay
[17:09] <smarter> s/out of data/out of date/
[17:09]  * smarter is a bit too lazy to look into MoM code, especially if just waiting should be enough to have something working :P
[17:10] <smarter> a mail has been sent to the snapshot.d.n maintainer
[17:10] <ScottK> smarter: s.d.o has been dead for some time.
[17:11] <smarter> ah?
[17:11]  * smarter didn't use it until today :p
[17:11] <ScottK> Yeah.  Don't assume it's coming back soon.  The problem is out of disk space.
[17:12] <smarter> oh :/
[17:13] <smarter> but the only problem we had is that the Sources.gz which is used to know where the different versions are available is out of date
[17:13] <smarter> the packages themselves seem to be ok
[17:13] <ScottK> Maybe I misremember then.
[17:13] <smarter> [16:58:15] <ScottK> IIRC smarter was looking at modifying DaD to look at experimental.
[17:13] <smarter> oops
[17:13] <smarter> http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/11/07/debian/pool/main/k/
[17:13] <smarter> maybe they got another harddrive
[17:13] <ScottK> Maybe.
 Riddell: The deadly line in the build log is sipplasmapart4.cpp:2620: error: no matching function for call to 'Plasma::PanelSvg::paintPanel(QPainter*&, const QPointF&)' /build/buildd/kdebase-workspace-4.1.2/libs/plasma/panelsvg.h:196: note: candidates are: void Plasma::PanelSvg::paintPanel(QPainter*, const QRectF&, const QPointF&)
[17:15] <rgreening> ScottK: I know this error...
[17:16] <rgreening> ScottK: It may be caused basause of the missing totltip patch
[17:16] <rgreening> s/totltip/tool/tip
[17:20] <rgreening> ScottK: kubuntu_20_plasma_tooltips.diff is the patch which contains this function.
[17:20] <ScottK> rgreening: Thanks.
[17:20] <rgreening> np
[17:24] <ScottK> Cool.  The dget from the new devscripts (see intrepid-backports) gives you an eta for the download.
[17:24] <rgreening> neat
[17:25] <ScottK> rgreening: That patch is missing from the Jaunty version.  I'll fix it.
[17:25] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: did you manage to add that patch back and test the compile? ^^
[17:25] <rgreening> k.
[17:25] <ScottK> Riddell: It's not in what got uploaded.
[17:39] <Riddell> ScottK: no but he was going to add it back and check it compiles
[17:39] <Riddell> ScottK: but if you want to beat him to it, that would be groovy
[17:40] <ScottK> OK.  Well I just kicked off a build.  If it works I'll upload it.  If it doesn't, I don't have time to sort through it today.
[17:50] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: it compiled, I just haven't prepared a diff yet
[17:50]  * JontheEchidna goes to do so
[17:52] <mitsarionas> hi... sorry if it's not the place to ask...but did some plasmoids break with kde 4.1.3?
[17:52] <lex79> dragon player does not start
[17:52] <lex79> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dragonplayer/+bug/289114
[17:55] <ScottK-laptop> Riddell and JontheEchidna: I give.  Over to you ....  http://paste.ubuntu.com/69284/
[17:58] <rgreening> ScottK: what gen'd that paste?
[17:58] <ScottK> rgreening: I added the tooltips patch back to kdebase-workspace and built it.
[17:58] <ScottK> That was during configure.
[17:58] <rgreening> ScottK: hmm... 1 sec
[17:59] <rgreening> let me have a quick look
[18:00] <rgreening> JontheEchidna got it to build... not sure what else may have been necessary
[18:01]  * ScottK needs to head out anyway.  Good luck.
[18:01] <rgreening> ScottK: k, I'll let JontheEchidnahandle it :)
[18:01]  * rgreening is on the way out now too...
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> blah
[18:02]  * JontheEchidna messed things up
[18:03] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Messing up is not a big deal (we all do it).  The true measure is what you do now.
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> I mean, generating the debdiff
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> I grabbed the series file from the wrong place :x
[18:03] <ScottK> Good luck.  See you later.
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[18:13] <JontheEchidna> Riddell, ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/69292/
[18:14] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: That looks very much like what I tried.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/69284/
[18:14] <JontheEchidna> I built against the Intrepid stack
[18:15] <JontheEchidna> hmm, but it looks like the kde dev packages aren't getting pulled in?
[18:16] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Yeah.  Build against Jaunty.  It's different.  Updated tools you need are in intrepid-backports.
[18:18] <ScottK> Riddell: Dunno if we should do it or not, but there seems to be an interest in an updated qt4 backport for Hardy https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+question/38220
[18:39] <ryanakca> Could someone fire up Kopete, enable the OTR plugin, click the configure icon.... and go generate key? Does anything happen? *is wondering if he's doing something wrong or if it's a bug*
[19:20] <jjesse> afternoon
[19:39] <smarter> ryanakca: OTR works fine here
[19:40] <ryanakca> smarter: bummer... Hmm... what do you have with ``dpkg -l | grep otr'' ? Intrepid or Gutsy?
[19:40] <smarter> but I don't think I used the configure dialog to generate a key
[19:40] <ryanakca> s/gutsy/hardy/g
[19:40] <ryanakca> *nod*
[19:41] <smarter> IIRC, I just started a conversation, tried launching otr and it asked if I wanted to generate a key
[19:41] <ryanakca> ok
[19:41] <smarter> I have libotr2 and libotr2-dev
[19:42]  * ryanakca had to manually pull libotr2-dev ... should it be a depends?
[19:42] <smarter> I don't think it's needed
[19:42] <smarter> if a dev package needs to be a dependency, something is wrong :P
[19:43] <ryanakca> hehe
[19:44] <ryanakca> hmm... feel like testing over Jabber/XMPP?
[19:52] <smarter> my gtalk account doesn't seem to work
[19:52] <smarter> something about QCA not working
[19:53] <ryanakca> yay, I made kopete crash. *tries again*
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> ScottK, Riddell: for some reason kdelibs5-dev isn't being pulled in
[19:57] <JontheEchidna> even though other kde*-dev packages are being pulled in
[19:57] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Then I think the best thing to do is figure what pulled it in for Intrepid and see why it changed.
[19:57]  * ScottK heads out.
[19:57] <JontheEchidna> this could get fun :]
[19:59] <smarter> JontheEchidna: apt-cache rdepends is your friend :p
[20:03] <JontheEchidna> kdebase-workspace build-deps on kdepimlibs5-dev
[20:03] <JontheEchidna> and kdepimlibs5-dev should be pulling in kdelibs5-dev...
[20:04] <JontheEchidna> but it's not
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> Would this frack things up?
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> -Depends: kdepimlibs5 (= ${binary:Version}), ${sameVersionDep:kdelibs5-dev:kdepimlibs5-Depends-kdelibs5}
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> +Depends: kdepimlibs5 (= ${binary:Version}), ${sameVersionDep:kdelibs5-dev},
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> ^irt to kdepimlibs5-dev's deps
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, I think that is the problem.
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> nvm I think the issue is actually a patch for reducing recursive linking
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> or both of those could be the issue :P
[20:33] <JontheEchidna> or maybe not
[20:33] <smarter> so, Debian fault? :p
[20:35] <JontheEchidna> no clue
[20:35]  * JontheEchidna is getting more confused by the minute
[20:36] <JontheEchidna> omg, it even build-deps on libphonon-dev, which is an rdepend of libs5-dev
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> or apt-cache rdepends is lying
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> :/
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> actually libphonon-dev replaces kdelibs5-dev under a certain version
[20:47] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: 'oi!
[21:04] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: oy!
[21:04] <DaSkreech> Pizza came Sorry
[21:07] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: yes Myrtti is my twinsister
[21:07] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Ah. Though that still doesn't explain where I know her from
[21:07] <Tm_T> heh
[21:11] <DaSkreech> Do you have any docs writen down for kwibber?
[21:11] <Tm_T> nope not yet
[21:11] <Tm_T> gotta go to sleep
[21:12] <Tm_T> see you later
[21:12] <DaSkreech> Bye
[21:12] <DaSkreech> sleep well
[22:04]  * JontheEchidna is thinking that the problem is the avoid recursive linking patchh
[22:04]  * JontheEchidna has to go for a few hours
[22:12] <DaSkreech> Bye
[22:25] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: is that the 97 patch #?
[23:26] <nixternal> gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use
[23:26] <nixternal> debsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting....
[23:26] <nixternal> debuild: fatal error at line 1250:
[23:26] <nixternal> what was the fix for that again?
[23:27] <DaSkreech> rm -r *boot*