[08:17] <CIA-2> anna: cjwatson * r414 ubuntu/debian/ (28 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.33
[08:23] <CIA-2> anna: cjwatson * r415 ubuntu/debian/po/ (am.po sk.po): branding fixes for Amharic and Slovak
[08:25] <CIA-2> anna: cjwatson * r416 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.33ubuntu1
[15:32] <CIA-2> usb-creator: evand * r57 usb-creator/debian/changelog: Credit Daniel Nylander for the Swedish translation.
[15:41] <CIA-2> usb-creator: evand * r58 usb-creator/debian/changelog: Move self.pipe declaration to the correct location (LP: #291645).
[16:41] <omegamormegil> I have a USB creator question.  I purchased two 8GB sdhc cards, and gave one to a friend.  We are both trying to use USB-creator in intrepid to make it bootable (with Xubuntu, for example).  We are using identical USB card readers, so it functions just like a USB thumb drive.  We can't get mine to boot properly, but his works fine.  When I try to boot, I just get a black screen that says "GRUB" in the top left corner.  I tried installing Ubun
[16:41] <omegamormegil> tu directly to the USB drive, and I could get it to boot.  Any ideas?
[16:45] <evand> omegamormegil: Assuming you do not care about what's currently on the card and assuming /dev/sdb is your card: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1; sudo blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sdb; usb-creator
[16:46] <evand> or just use usb-creator from bzr trunk
[16:47] <evand> please make sure you know what those commands do, as dd can be quite destructive if you point it at the wrong device
[16:48] <omegamormegil> yeah, I'm fairly familiar.  I read your Open Week talk, and suspected it might have something to do with the MBR, since you noted people had some problems with that.  Am I right?
[16:48] <evand> correct
[16:48] <omegamormegil> I'll try that now, and let you know.
[16:48] <evand> thanks
[16:53] <omegamormegil> Another question, while I'm here.  Why does this use a vfat filesystem?  Wouldn't ext3 work?
[16:53] <omegamormegil> Just curious.
[16:54] <evand> omegamormegil: because it's intended to be as non intrusive as possible.  If you already have a vfat partition (as most USB disks do) with files on it, it wont delete them or format the device, it will install along side them
[16:56] <evand> I have to run, but I'll be back later in the day
[16:56] <evand> cheers
[16:56] <omegamormegil> Well, thats pretty cool.  I think USB-creatoris an awesome tool, by the way.  Thanks for the help.
[17:19] <omegamormegil> Thanks evand, that worked like a charm!
[17:35] <evand> glad to hear it, omegamormegil
[17:35] <evand> and thanks for the kind words
[17:37] <omegamormegil> Since the program is so non-intrusive, have you considered noting that fact in the USB-Creator GUI?  I never doubted that this tool would wipe whatever USB disk I opted to use, and I was incorrect.
[17:38] <evand> mm, I'm concerned about making any promises like that this early in its development, plus the UI is already fairly wordy.
[17:38] <evand> I'm more inclined to put that in the documentation
[17:39] <evand> man page, help.ubuntu.com, etc
[17:45] <omegamormegil> Makes sense.
[17:47] <omegamormegil> Is it possible to have multiple bootable live images on a disk large enough to hold them all?  I have an 8GB disk, and I'd really like it if this one disk could replace a bunch of my installation CD's.  I haven't seen any documentation anywhere on how this can be done, and I've also seen a few unanswered forum posts asking this same question.  Do you know of any documentation?
[17:53] <omegamormegil> Could something like this be achieved by installing GRUB into the MBR and chainloading partitions on the USB drive?
[17:53] <superm1> omegamormegil, i do that with an 8 gig flash drive of mine.  i installed grub2 (although grub would probably work too).  You won't be able to use usb-creator in it's current form to populate the images however
[17:55] <omegamormegil> Right, I understand USB-creator isn't designed to do this.  I've created USB images before with instructions from the pendrivelinux site.
[17:56] <omegamormegil> (Although, it would be a great feature :)
[17:56] <omegamormegil> Good to know that would work.  Thanks superm1.
[20:05] <CIA-2> usb-creator: evand * r59 usb-creator/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
[20:05] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Add support for providing command line ISO images.
[20:05] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Add support for defaulting the persistence setting in the UI via
[20:05] <CIA-2> usb-creator:  command line.
[20:05] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Default the GUI to start up centered on the screen.
[20:06] <evand> ^ superm1 thanks