[00:05] <ascent> goodmorning all :)
[00:09] <mynous> morning :\
[00:10] <ascent> Quiet in here :)
[00:11] <mynous> yeah, which means im still at a loss :P
[00:11] <ascent> Why's that?
[00:12] <mynous> trying to figure out why my servers networking abilities are acting to strangely
[00:12] <ascent> :) that's no easy brainer I suppose :)
[00:12] <mynous> nope
[00:12] <mynous> its the strangest thing ive seen too
[00:12] <ascent> any particular symptoms?
[00:14] <mynous> well im basically running only rtorrent and vsftpd on it at the moment and when i tarnsfer files through vsftpd transfers in rtorrent come to a stop even tho vsftpd has been rate limited
[00:14] <mynous> also it seems that if uploads are going quickly then downloads suffer or the other way around
[00:15] <ascent> well, that's common on adsl-type links. Not sure what you're connected to?
[00:15] <mynous> well its on a 10mb full-duplex connection :\
[00:15] <ascent> and is it really full duplexed ? ifconfig says so? switch leds say so?
[00:16] <mynous> i cant see the switch leds, its remote
[00:16] <ascent> ah okay
[00:16] <ascent> ethtool?
[00:16] <ascent> dmesg?
[00:16] <mynous> Settings for eth0:
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
[00:17] <mynous> 	Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	                        100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	Advertised auto-negotiation: No
[00:17] <mynous> 	Speed: 10Mb/s
[00:17] <mynous> 	Duplex: Full
[00:17] <mynous> 	Port: MII
[00:17] <mynous> 	PHYAD: 1
[00:17] <mynous> 	Transceiver: internal
[00:17] <mynous> 	Auto-negotiation: off
[00:17] <mynous> 	Supports Wake-on: pumbg
[00:17] <mynous> 	Wake-on: d
[00:17] <mynous> 	Current message level: 0x00000001 (1)
[00:17] <mynous> 	Link detected: yes
[00:17] <ascent> Auto-negotiation setting to "On" might help?
[00:18] <mynous> possibly but im trying to find out if the particular nic has a problem with that as ive read some do
[00:18] <ascent> right -- and, remote, right? nice.. :/
[00:19] <mynous> also when i first got it i was using considerably more than my 10mb connection so i was told to use : ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex full autoneg off	
[00:19] <mynous> yeah i know, its a rhine II from whati can tell from lspci
[00:20] <mynous> so im not sure why they specifically mentions autoneg off
[00:21] <mynous> i suppose autoneg on couldnt do much harm other than not work?
[00:21] <ascent> right :)
[00:21] <ascent> It won't break a thing.
[00:21] <mynous> wouldnt be the first time
[00:21] <mynous> i uninstalled libncurses a while back :P
[00:21] <ascent> but -- you we're using more than your 10mb connection? are they rate-limiting you by having you ``downgrade'' yourself? ;)
[00:22] <ascent> oh, nice one ;)
[00:22] <mynous> yeah thats why they wanted it set at 10mb
[00:22] <arrrghhh> so i partitioned some drives with cfdisk, and now i can find the uuid from the vol_id command, but it doesn't show when i do ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh
[00:23] <mynous> ascent: well i tried it, we will see
[00:23] <ascent> mynous: okay :)
[00:23] <mynous> nic is still working yay!
[00:23] <ascent> hurray ;)
[00:24] <mynous> what is it that autoneg does?
[00:24] <ascent> it tries to negotiate with the next device about a speed both devices know of
[00:24] <ascent> in general, just enabling it won't hurt, only specific cases where you need to explicitly set it off
[00:25] <mynous> i cant see any reasons why you would explicitly want it off
[00:25] <mynous> it does "seem" to have helped slightly
[00:25] <jhouse_> With all this just enough operating system stuff, is ubuntu server now dominantly command line?  My install of 8.10 server wasn't X-based like I had expected.
[00:25] <ascent> I do -- at work, we use a fiber connection and that device doesn't cope with autoneg's :)
[00:26] <ascent> jhouse_: just installed -server as well, in vmware
[00:26] <ascent> well, almost done, still installing.
[00:26] <ascent> No X for server installs is fine for me tough.
[00:27] <mynous> well it doesnt seem to have helped much, rtorrent uploads hitting 5mb stop the transfer, when the ftp client reconnects the upload rates drop off for rtorrent
[00:29] <jhouse_> My bigger concern is that it failed to detect my network connection and then dumped me to the command line when I booted up.
[00:30] <mynous> well setting autoneg on set it to halfduplex :(
[00:30] <jhouse_> I have a wifi card and no ethernet connection.
[00:30] <ascent> mynous: okay, that may be why it needs autoneg off in your case.
[00:31] <mynous> yeah
[00:32] <mynous> what is PHYAD: 1  in ethtool?
[00:34] <ascent> not sure. what does the manual say?
[00:35] <mynous> phyad N
[00:35] <mynous>               PHY address.
[00:35] <mynous> not much
[00:36] <ascent> hurray :)
[00:36] <ascent> dunno, sorry :)
[00:36] <mynous> lol
[00:38] <ascent> How much overhead would a crypted FS give, I wonder..
[00:41] <ascent> Off to bed now, later!
[00:43] <jhouse_> Trying to reinstall now...  At the start of the install, I see two errors/warnings.  One is that it's ingoring an aperature beyond 4G and the other is something about USB on port 1.  Would any cause me significant trouble?  I'm thinking maybe the aperature error would be why I don't have a graphical install?
[00:44] <mynous> using ifconfig i get a listing that says collisions:29975, i recon this is bad but im not sure how to fix it
[01:14] <DrSmall> Greetings
[01:28] <arrrghhh> why is my new drive not showing up in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh?  i can't mount it in fstab with uuid since it's not listed there.
[01:42] <hads> I've seen them not show up there stright after partitioning occasionally.
[03:20] <timreichhart> anybody in this chat room here?
[03:20] <Ahmuck> hi.  i'd like to buy one drive and use it in a degraded array and buy the second one 2 weeks later.  does ubuntu server have raid1 software that will allow this?
[03:21] <timreichhart> can anybody help me to confg my modem on my server 8.04 i am using Agere Systems LT WinModem
[03:23] <arrrghhh> so i don't get it.  how do i add a partition to /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[03:23] <arrrghhh> i used cfdisk and i can find the uuid by using vol_id, but i can't find the uuid in /dev/disk, and i can't mount with uuid when there's no entry for it there.
[03:30] <hads> There's likely a way to make them show up by restarting something. They should do after a reboot to. You could also be evil and link them manually
[03:32] <timreichhart> can anybody help me to confg my modem on my server 8.04 i am using Agere Systems LT WinModem
[03:52] <Ahmuck> hwo does manual partitioning work with LVM
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> Ahmuck: Basically, you set up LVM first, and then go through the regular partitioning after that using the logical volumes you created.
[04:18] <Ahmuck> tonyyarusso: thx
[07:13] <HellMind> How is called the pkg that works like network manager on ubuntu server 8.10?
[08:41] <Illusion> hello folks
[08:42] <Illusion> Can somebody please help me to get pxeboot(netboot) working on a server. I want to run Kubuntu Live on client without a hard drive
[08:49] <Illusion> Starting rpc mountd...                                                [fail]
[08:51] <centaur5> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall worked fine for me when I did it.
[08:52] <Illusion> did you choose the option in the setup install LTS server?
[08:53] <centaur5> No, but that should work just as easily. My only problem with LTSP was an incompatibility with a video card I was trying to use and had to find a different one.
[08:54] <Illusion> problem i have currenly is that clients boot up in a initram shell or smt
[08:55] <Illusion> btw by installing LTSP my dhcp is down
[08:56] <centaur5> That's what was happening to me until I changed my video card and I was getting an error message in .xsession-errors
[08:56] <Illusion> hmmz why is dhcp3 down :S
[08:57] <Illusion> on the server i mean
[08:57] <Illusion> i can start or stop it
[08:57] <Illusion> *can
[08:57] <Illusion> t
[08:58] <Illusion> doesnt make sense to me to change the videocard on the server
[08:59] <centaur5> My problem was video card on the thin client.
[09:00] <centaur5> Check /var/log/syslog to see if there are errors with your DHCP configuration.
[09:00] <Illusion> sec
[09:01] <Illusion> another weird thing then
[09:01] <Illusion> it's 10 am here
[09:01] <Illusion> and logs unit 8am
[09:01] <Illusion> *until
[09:02] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                 [fail]
[09:02] <Illusion> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "force-reload" failed.
[09:02] <Illusion> thats in the shell
[09:03] <centaur5> Your dhcp conf file isn't right then.
[09:04] <Illusion> i can show ya, sec
[09:04] <Illusion> http://pastebin.com/m333d06be
[09:06] <Illusion> looking good to me as this config has been working before
[09:07] <Illusion> i think LSTP installed another DHCP server'
[09:07] <centaur5> I don't think you should have the next-server line if this is your LTSP server and also the filename line needs to be within the brackets under the dhcp range.
[09:09] <Illusion> still failing after your comment
[09:10] <Illusion> cant i just total erase the LSTP instalation?
[09:10] <centaur5> yes
[09:10] <Illusion> or dhcp reconfigure?
[09:14] <Illusion> i cant stop or start dhcp at all
[09:14] <Illusion> restart even
[09:15] <Illusion> dhcp3-server is the problem
[09:15] <Illusion> i think
[09:16] <centaur5> Make sure you have everything in order according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
[09:16] <ascent> Good morning everybody!
[09:17] <centaur5> I think it's time for me to say g'night  :)
[09:18] <Illusion> nn
[09:18] <Illusion> you leave me like this :P
[09:18] <Illusion> this is the problem:
[09:18] <Illusion> ./etc/default/dhcp3-server
[09:19] <centaur5> Sorry, it's 2:20 a.m. here and I'm falling asleep.
[09:19] <Illusion> and /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[09:19] <Illusion> it takes it from default wich is empty
[09:19] <Illusion> np centaur5
[09:20] <centaur5> Illusion: Good luck. I'll be in tomorrow but you'll probably find someone smarter to help you.
[09:22] <Illusion> BAH
[09:22] <Illusion> Segmentation fault
[09:22] <Illusion> lol
[09:22] <Illusion> nn centaur5
[09:22] <ascent> hehe
[09:23] <Illusion> he fecked my installation :P lol
[09:29] <Illusion> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ltsp-server-standalone - doesn't work either
[09:29] <Illusion> same as with dhcp3
[09:30] <Illusion> even installing dhcp will remove dhcp3 and ltsp-server-standalone
[09:30] <Illusion> but again i cant start any dhcp services
[09:30] <Illusion> :S
[09:34] <Illusion> Can somebody help me pls?
[09:36] <Illusion>  * Stopping DHCP server                                                                                                                                [fail]
[09:36] <Illusion> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.3
[09:36] <Illusion> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[09:36] <Illusion> All rights reserved.
[09:36] <Illusion> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[09:36] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                                                                                               [fail]
[09:36] <Illusion> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "start" failed.
[09:37] <ascent> what's the actual error?
[09:37] <Illusion> no errors my logs are empty/not updated either
[09:38] <ascent> ok
[09:38] <Illusion> the configuartion is the same as before installing LSTP
[09:38] <Illusion> i think another DHCP service is running
[09:38] <Illusion> but i don't know which one
[09:39] <ascent> stop it :)
[09:39] <Illusion> lol
[09:39] <ascent> bad idea?
[09:39] <Illusion> what are the most common dhcp services for dhcp?
[09:39] <ascent> how do you mean?
[09:40] <Illusion> seems that there is dhcp and dhcp3
[09:40] <Illusion> wonder if there's more
[09:40] <ascent> Just stop the processes?
[09:40] <Illusion> i cant stop dhcp3
[09:40] <Illusion> cant start it either
[09:40] <Illusion> weird isnt it
[09:41] <Illusion> its installed tho
[09:43] <LoveGuru> Is there anyone Familiar with sql-ledger
[09:44] <Illusion> ascent its not my config
[09:44] <Illusion> i did # in all the lines
[09:45] <Illusion> and it still wont stop or start
[09:45] <ascent> illusion: will dhcp(d?) even start with an empty config?
[09:46] <Illusion> yes
[09:46] <Illusion> looks like it
[09:46] <Illusion> cause i get the same message over and over
[09:46] <Illusion> no matter what i do
[09:46] <Illusion>  * Stopping DHCP server                                                                                                                                [fail]
[09:46] <Illusion> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.3
[09:46] <Illusion> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[09:46] <Illusion> All rights reserved.
[09:46] <Illusion> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[09:46] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:
[09:46] <Illusion> fail
[09:47] <Illusion> still wonder why my logs are empty
[09:47] <Illusion> date is 10:47 here and my logs go to 8am
[09:47] <Illusion> :S
[09:47] <Illusion> *time
[09:49] <Illusion> version 3 of dhcp-server is not the default server message
[09:52] <Illusion> thnx centaur5 :)
[09:53] <Illusion>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                                                                                               [fail]
[09:53] <Illusion> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "start" failed.
[09:53] <Illusion> root@The-Hive-S1:~#
[09:54] <Illusion> ypbind[12491]: broadcast: RPC: Timed ou
[09:54] <Illusion> t
[09:59] <Illusion> this really annoyes me
[10:00] <ascent> ah, it's even a dutchy ;)
[10:00] <Illusion> lol
[10:01] <Illusion> i will start swearing if i need to reinstall the server
[10:01] <Illusion> then i wouldn't be pleased at all
[10:02] <ascent> Then dig into the problem instead of pasting the whole channel =)
[10:03] <Illusion> lol i am
[10:05] <ascent> okies.. good luck mate.
[10:05] <Illusion> hopefully i can fix it
[10:05] <Illusion> but it seems i have a problem here
[10:05] <Illusion> udp 0 0 *:bootps *:* - is not in netstat -uap
[10:06] <Illusion> Status of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.
[10:24] <kraut> moin
[10:27] <ascent> mogge.
[10:33] <Illusion> ascent i have dhcp running again
[10:34]  * delcoyote hi
[10:34] <ascent> good job
[10:34] <Illusion> now i need to boot the ditsro
[10:36] <Illusion> cause my pxeboot boots in initramfs
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[11:16] <rhalff> hi do I need dbus on a server ?
[11:17] <rhalff> if I remove dbus and no critical packages are removed along with it, I probably don't need it right ?
[12:48] <m11> hello
[13:01] <rhalff> any of you using iscsitarget ?
[13:02] <rhalff> I get can't create a target 17
[13:23] <Tristan-B> hi
[13:23] <Tristan-B> I have just rebooted/shutdown my server for maintanence, and booting it back up, I am unable to ssh into the server
[13:24] <Tristan-B> it was just a reboot/shutdown, no real maintanence was done
[13:24] <Tristan-B> any idea
[13:25]  * Tristan-B glares
[13:59] <Tristan-B> hey how do I start ssh
[13:59] <Tristan-B> sshd
[14:00] <Tristan-B> answer someone
[14:00] <Tristan-B> whatever
[15:01] <billybigrigger> morning all
[15:02] <billybigrigger> is there a free version of landscape available? or maybe even an alternative that i can install? i just have a home server and don't really need to pay 150/year, so a free or alternate package would be nice
[15:05] <ScottK> What do you think you need it for?
[15:07] <billybigrigger> well i saw a screeny of it and it had nice graphs for stats and all that, and the new package notifications looked good, just wondering if there was a free alternative
[15:16] <ScottK> Probably not all in one package, but I'd expect most of it's functionality is in one or another package.
[15:22] <D4rkMist> whot is speak ????
[15:45] <mario_> Hi, is possible to use a logical volume in a guest system using kvm?
[15:47] <soren> Yes.
[15:47] <mario_> where can i find documentation about this?
[15:47] <soren> What do you need to know?
[15:47] <soren> You just use it like you would any other file or device.
[15:48] <mario_> id' like to use a logical volume in a guest system, recognized such as /dev/sda2
[15:48] <mario_> and let only that guest to access the lv
[15:49] <mario_> more clearly i'm setting up a virtulized file server
[15:49] <mario_> that have to serve file that are on a lv
[15:50] <soren> It wouldn't be known as /dev/sda2, but rather /dev/sdc
[15:50] <soren> ...or whatever.
[15:50] <soren> It's simple.
[15:50] <soren> kvm -hda /path/to/some/file.img
[15:50] <soren> that's the usual way
[15:50] <soren> ...if it's an lv:
[15:50] <soren> kvm -hda /dev/vg00/lv2
[15:50] <soren> No different.
[15:51] <mario_> yes you are right as /dev/sdc not as another partition, ok, is it possible to assign during the creation with vmbuilder?
[15:51] <soren> That's what the --raw option is for.
[15:51] <mario_> thank you!
[15:51] <soren> It works for me, but I've heard of people having problems with it..
[15:53] <Ahmuck> i've had problems with lvm and vm
[15:55] <mario_> mmm --raw is not in the man , how can i use it? what kind of problems?
[16:17] <mario_> can someone share his experience with lvm and kvm?
[16:20] <MontyMars> hello?
[16:21] <nijaba> mario_: use "sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --help" to view all options
[16:22] <mario_> thank you
[16:22] <MontyMars> can anyone help me set up extra users for samba?
[16:26] <mario_> nijaba, --raw is used to set the first disk image?what does it means?
[16:29] <nijaba> mario_: hmm, the text look wrong.  should read: "Specify the path to a raw file or device to install in.  Can be specified multiple  time  in  con‐
[16:29] <nijaba>               junction with --part, paths will be used in the order presented. Make sure that the raw element(s)
[16:29] <nijaba>               specified have enough free space."
[16:31] <mario_> ok so i have to create n raw device and n elements in the partition file
[16:31] <mario_> is right?
[16:32] <nijaba> mario_: not exactly. one --raw per "disk", a disk can have multiple partitions in --part
[16:33] <mario_> nijaba, ok thank you again
[16:33] <nijaba> np
[16:58] <mario_> what is the function of /srv ?
[17:00] <soren> mario_: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM
[17:07] <hikenboot> hello all--does the open-iscsi package provide an alternative iscsi target or initiator or both when compaired with the other two packages availabe
[17:07] <hikenboot> s/availabe /available
[17:09] <soren> It's an iscsi initiator.
[17:09] <soren> I don't know what you mean by alternative.
[17:48] <mario_> How can i force vmbuilder to create the system into an already existing file?
[17:54] <hikenboot> can anyone explain where the man page is for iscsitarget? man iscsitarget man iscsi-target man iscsi nothing comes up!
[18:00] <ScottK> hikenboot: You can search for it here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[20:24] <mstirner> hello, i think i've just locked myself out of my vserver by changing the username; its "not in sudoers" now so cannot get root