[00:00] <CyD_> Devourer: basically run adept, get your system up to date, then it will offer to dist-upgrade for you
[00:02] <Devourer> CyD_, I have updated everything and nothing else happens.
[00:02] <ToHellWithGA> there is some kind of bug in the way kde interoperability works in regular old gnome ubuntu
[00:03] <ToHellWithGA> it is impossible to configure mouse behavior with the systemsettings application
[00:03] <CyD_> hmm, !dist-upgrade
[00:03] <CyD_> !dist-upgrade
[00:03] <ToHellWithGA> kcontrol used to be able to configure mouse/keyboard/etc. from within gnome for use in kde applications
[00:03] <ToHellWithGA> is systemsettings the wrong way to go about mouse configuration?
[00:05] <CyD_> ToHellWithGA: it works ok from within kde here, but i can't comment on doing it from gnome
[00:05] <ToHellWithGA> systemsettings is really bare in gnome
[00:06] <ToHellWithGA> something about i18n, something about sound, and two other things that are neither mouse nor keyboard
[00:07] <starenka> CyD_: heh i just need copy the whole system to bigger hdd and adjust partition sizes (notebook).. will it work out of the box, or there will be problems w/ grup & fstab etc?
[00:07] <giuseppe_> hi, does anyone know how to find wifi key?
[00:07] <starenka> (my cdrom is broken... so i cant boot the live cd...)
[00:09] <jwaldo> "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed". Sigh. Why must file sharing NEVER work for me?
[00:11] <KDesk> I have read about file systems for flash memories, which is a good one that I can use?
[00:12] <CyD_> starenka: don't quote me, but the hd should end up having the same device name (sda etc) so .. but you'll have to install grub into the mbr on the new drive
[00:12] <CyD_> starenka: such as grub-install etc etc, should be easy instructions to find
[00:12] <starenka> ok
[00:12] <starenka> thx
[00:12] <CyD_> :D
[00:12] <CyD_> jwaldo: apt-get install samba
[00:13] <legodude> what does it mean when du and df don't agree?
[00:13] <jwaldo> CyD- does Samba work for sharing with Leopard, too?
[00:13] <CyD_> jwaldo: yes, leopard will recognize smb (windows) shares, which samba is
[00:14] <legodude> du in root says 14gb used
[00:14] <jwaldo> awesome, thanks
[00:14] <legodude> and df says 46gb used :(
[00:14] <CyD_> :D
[00:15] <CyD_> KDesk: i have no probs using vfat, ntfs, ext3 on flash drives
[00:15] <CyD_> KDesk: however i don't know if there are specific ones that would be best
[00:16] <KDesk> CyD_: Yes, I have read that there a specific ones for  flash memoryies, like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFFS2
[00:16] <johannes_> hi how can I check what version of kde im using?
[00:17] <KDesk> johannes_: In dolphin for example, help, about.
[00:17] <KDesk> johannes_: or in konqueror, or look in apt or adept for kdebase an look at the version
[00:17] <johannes_> ah ok thx
[00:17] <KDesk> :)
[00:18] <johannes_> i heard there would be a version 4.1.3 but apt-get wont show me one?
[00:19] <redguard_> 关于开驱动后openoffice,fcitx和networkmanage菜单显示为────，哪位知道怎样解决，显卡nvidia geforce2 mx mx 400
[00:19] <Devourer> CyD_, it's not working.
[00:21] <KDesk> johannes_: I have read also, I tihnk in -update repo should be, but it isn't. Maybe it will be in a few fays or maybe not.
[00:21] <DaSkreech> johannes_: read the kubuntu.org site
[00:22] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[00:22] <KDesk> DaSkreech: ah, backport...
[00:22] <johannes_> ah I see backports
[00:23] <KDesk> I thought it would be in -update, I think it was so planet
[00:23] <Devourer> CyD_, it's giving me this "ImportError: No module named apt"
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:24]  * DaSkreech likes top better
[00:25] <redguard_> thx
[00:25] <Devourer> Is there a certain version of Python I need to run the Dist-upgrade tool.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: no just run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:27] <Devourer> ActionParsnip, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[00:27] <DaSkreech> Devourer: What are you trying ?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:28] <Devourer> ActionParsnip, same result.
[00:28] <DaSkreech> Devourer: What are you trying to accomplish ?
[00:28] <Devourer> DaSkreech, upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Devourer
[00:28] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | Devourer have a read
[00:28] <Devourer> Thanks.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: you need a different command
[00:28] <Devourer> I've already read that twice.
[00:28] <CyD_> :(
[00:28] <Devourer> CyD_, has also given it to me.
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Devourer: easiest way I have found is to do the server upgrade
[00:29] <Devourer> but I'm not a server. :o
[00:29] <DaSkreech> That seems to work the nicest out of all methods
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Devourer: The packages don't care
[00:29] <DaSkreech> They just need to be told to upgrade
[00:29] <Devourer> So it won't mess anything up?
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Nope
[00:29] <DaSkreech> LInux rocks :)
[00:29] <Devourer> Oh. Ok. =]
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: read this
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[00:30] <Devourer> ActionParsnip, I already have. :'(
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: theres a section that reads: Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[00:30] <Devourer> Yeah. :)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: theres 3 commands to run which will upgrade you
[00:30]  * ActionParsnip puts away his spoon
[00:31] <Devourer> haha.
[00:31] <Devourer> I hope this works...
[00:31] <jwaldo> hmmmm, Samba is installed and working, but still no luck
[00:31] <Devourer> Or else I'm just gonna move over to GNOME.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: whatever suits you best
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: can we see your /etc/samba/smb.conf please
[00:32] <Devourer> Haha, yeah. Lol.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: use pastebin
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: so did you read that bit I pointed you to?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: and is it working?
[00:33] <Devourer> ActionParsnip, I'm on the editing part.
[00:33] <Devourer> It looks like it should work.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: so you didnt read it then did you?
[00:34] <Devourer> I did.
[00:34] <Devourer> I'm on step 3.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> then why didnt you see that bit?
[00:34] <Devourer> What?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: you said you'd read the post and the solution wasnt there, yet the thing you are currently following is on that same post
[00:36] <Devourer> ActionParsnip, Well... Mr. specific. I thought the server upgrade applied to server installations not desktop installations, so therefore I believed that did not apply to me and THEREFORE the solution was not there.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> the server and desktop systems are pretty much the same, just slightly different kernel nd some packages but its all updated using the same method
[00:37] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- noob question, but pastebin?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !paste | jwaldo
[00:37] <jwaldo> ah
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: paste text in there, hit paste, then give us the address bar contents
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: so we can view the file
[00:38] <Devourer> ActionParsnip, it's working now though. :o I think this is the easiest method of them all...
[00:38] <wesley> is there a real way to check if you contact on msn has blocked you
[00:38] <Devourer> prometheusUnboun, so annoying with the name changes.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Devourer: indeed
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> wesley: theres a thing online, its sneaky
[00:39] <ulfk> hi all, i made a upgrade to 8.10 so far all is working, even the new kde version
[00:39] <jwaldo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/69410/
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> wesley: http://www.blockstatus.com/msn/stchecker
[00:39] <wesley> where? becaudse i want to check if i am blocked
[00:39] <wesley> does it really work?
[00:40] <Devourer> Test it to find out I guess.
[00:40] <jwaldo> Also, it lists my Mac, but I get an error when I try to connect
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: ok, thats a very stock smb.conf
[00:40] <jwaldo> should be, I haven't changed anything at all
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> wesley: yeah, it basically fakes being a user and checks status, you may be blocked but randomly generated names arent which is how the thing works
[00:40] <wesley> It works
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> wesley: told you
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: then put some data in that file and resart the samba service, folders will appear
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: http://pastebin.com/f612b4131
[00:42] <wesley> ActionParship its the first one that worls
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: here's mine, look at the bottom lines. Its really that simple to share stuff
[00:44] <CyD_> jwaldo: ActionParsnip, haven't seen the whole combo but filesharing usually configures fine through the gui as well
[00:45] <CyD_> right click folder, properties, sharing
[00:45] <CyD_> in kde at any rate
[00:45] <CyD_> s/combo/convo
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> CyD_: if you look at my file, its so simple, plus you can look cool by sshing in, adding a share then restarting samba
[00:46] <CyD_> ActionParsnip: :)
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> CyD_: ive always used the conf files, gui is way too slow for me
[00:47] <jwaldo> I can see the other computer in my workgroup, but when I try to connect I get a "could not connect to host" error
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: did you sudo smbpasswd <your username>
[00:50] <jwaldo> On which computer?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: the linux one running samba
[00:50] <wesley> ActionParship now i know for sure that my girlfriend blocked me, and that sucks
[00:50] <jwaldo> This must be what it was like for me as a new Windows user too many, many years ago. =|
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: you'll learn
[00:51] <jwaldo> in Terminal, I assume
[00:51] <wesley> If there was a program that could confrotate her would be nice
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: always in terminal
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: i dont use gui much whih is good in irc as its a text based chat
[00:53] <zer0o> watch www.zeithgeistmovie.com and join thevenusproject.com
[00:53] <jwaldo> "sudo: smbpassword: command not found"
[00:54] <CyD_> is that smbpasswd?
[00:54] <jwaldo> doh
[00:54] <zer0o> wrong link... www.zeitgeistmovie.com :D
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: sudo smbpasswd <username>
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: thats the username and password you use to access your samba shares
[00:56] <jwaldo> ah\
[00:56] <jwaldo> I already set those through the GUI
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: well yu just set it now in the terminal way
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: try now, add some shares to the smb.conf file (you'll need kdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: then run: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:00] <jwaldo> shares?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: check my smb.conf out: http://pastebin.com/f612b4131
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: and look at the bottom 20 lines or so, those are my 2 shares i have on my fileserver
[01:03] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- The [CDROM] and [Downloads] sections?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: yep
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: its THAT simple
[01:04] <jwaldo> I assume the bracketed names are files/locations and the stuff under them sets the sharing permissions?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: if you copy my text into yours then modify as required
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: yeah the bracketted name is the name of the share
[01:06] <bdog> how do I move widgets in kde 4
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> bdog: drag them
[01:07] <jwaldo> hmmm, Kate won't let me save the changes
[01:07] <bdog> they're not movin!
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: did you open it with kdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:07] <bdog> like the app launcher
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> bdog: you may need to click the lock button on the widget so it becomes unlocked
[01:09] <jwaldo> saved. Now what?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: the file is owned by root so you need kdesudo kate to run kate as root
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: the file is reread and the new config is now applied
[01:11] <bdog> ok i had to go to panel settings
[01:11] <jwaldo> hmmm, same error
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: hmm
[01:12] <jwaldo> "could not connect to host for smb://spiffy-macbook/"
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: what about if you give the full name, like: //<server name>/<share name>
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: can you ping the system by name?
[01:13] <jwaldo> How would I do that?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: ping spiffy-macbook
[01:15] <jwaldo> "ping: unknown host spiffy-macbook"
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: thats your problem
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: you cant resolve the name to an IP
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: bad dns
[01:16] <jwaldo> ah
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: you could put the system on static ip and have an entry in /etc/hosts
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: or find out why its not resolving
[01:16] <jwaldo> might be something in the Mac settings
[01:16] <zir-rt> If I am conected with a wifi and cable network, how can I specify through which conexion the internet should be accessed?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: silly question, is spiffy-macbook turned on? Is it the correct computername?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> zir-rt: pull one of the interfaces down
[01:17] <jwaldo> It's on and the name is right
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: go find out its ip address
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: and double check the host name
[01:18] <zir-rt> ActionParsnip: could you tell me how? Is that to disconect one?
[01:19] <wesley> ActionParsnip how good does that msn status checker work
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> wesley: not sure Ive not had any use of it but i know how it works
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> zir-rt: sudo ifdown <interface name (eg eth0)>
[01:19] <jwaldo> Where should In enter its IP address? And where would I find the host name?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: if its a mac i have no idea
[01:20] <wesley> Can it be tha msn user under Linux are automatic offline ?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> wesley: they can appear offline with the client
[01:21] <wesley> amsn says that she removed me from her contact list
[01:21] <zir-rt> ActionParsnip: thanks. But with the interface down, if I want to access through the other I have to restore from the down (up?) and down the other?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> zir-rt: if you are connected with both it will force traffic through the up interface
[01:21] <jwaldo> Is the host name the same as computer name?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> zir-rt: you can always sudo ifup <if name>
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: yes
[01:22] <zir-rt> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[01:22] <jwaldo> ah, then yes, it's correct
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: ok, well if you can use the ip instead
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> smb://192.168.0.2/ for example
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> use the ip of spiffy-macbook
[01:23] <wesley> how can amsn know if a person removed you from there contactlist
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> wesley: not sure, does it tell you?
[01:26] <wesley> yeah it does tell me that, and i believe that can be right
[01:26] <pont> wesley: You would have to have an understanding of the protocal, But you would assume it could tell you because the MSN server tells it, The MSN server may tell it because perhaps it does some peer to peer notification when you are online although that seems abit strange, perhaps thats what it does..
[01:28] <wesley> if a person is offline you would´nt get there screen name
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> wesley: it just asks the msn server if they are online as some randomly generated account name, the server sees the user is not blocking this random account so it responds with the situation
[01:30] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- no luck with the IP address, but the other computer HAS disappeared from the worgroup list
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: i think your smaba server has issues. id reboot it
[01:30] <jwaldo> That'd be this computer, right?
[01:31] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm running sourcemage linux (yea, i know but we're all together in linux right and i feel like i've exhausted my options) and kde 4.1.3. For some reason when i run kde4 non-phonon apps the sound is blocked. Now i'm not aware of how phonon could actually grip the soundcard. It's just an api and others tell me they don't have this problem. I have a m-audio delta 1010lt card. Any ideas at all?
[01:31] <Bearcat> this is messing up my mythtv and i have to do a demo on mythtv in a few weeks.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: yeah, the samba server pc is not in your routers dns list so i'd reboot it
[01:31] <jwaldo> brb, then
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: maybe you should swich sound server
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: try ALSA
[01:33] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: alsa is not a sound server. It's a kernel level api and driver system.
[01:33] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: and it's a problem when i run kde4
[01:34] <Bearcat> for a brief period last night i considered swithing to Gnome to get past this problem
[01:34] <lakis1982> do u know how can i uninstall openoffice 3 ???
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: then ditch it for gnome
[01:35] <Bearcat> to be clear, it's not phonon apps that are blocking the sound server as i can run multiple phonon apps and get sound from them all. It's phonon itself
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: dpkg -l | grep -i office
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: then sudo apt-get --purge remove <whatever>
[01:36] <lakis1982> on whatever what should i type ?
[01:36] <jwaldo> It sees the MB again, but still has the host problem
[01:36] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: well, that would solve the problem, but it's not the solution i'm looking for. That's kind of like buying a new car when your alternator goes bad.
[01:37] <lakis1982> actionpars ??  what does the first command is for ?
[01:37] <lakis1982> whats its purpose?
[01:38] <jwaldo> It doesn't seem to be the router, so it myst be the Mac
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: you are querying your system for office apps, you can then find the package name and uninstall it with apt-get
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: hardly, its still ubuntu linux. just a different desktop
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: well you arent resolving the name to an IP so if you can find out its ip address you can circumvent dns
[01:40] <lakis1982> it turned many results in terminal with this command
[01:40] <lakis1982> how can i uninstall them all?
[01:40] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: well right, but i'm comfortable in kde for a number of reasons. Besides, i know others have this working so it must either be a configuration issue or my card itself
[01:40] <jwaldo> What's the linux terminal command for finding the IP address?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: true, i cant think of anything to suggest really, sorry. You may have to use it if the time starts pressing. just to get you through your demo
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: ifconfig
[01:42] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: thanks. They wanted to see KDE too, but if worst comes to worst i might be able to stop phonon or just load up somthing like E17 that looks good.
[01:42] <emma> If any one has not yet installed firefox, but is thinking of doing so, I suggest you use: sudo aptitude -R install firefox
[01:42] <emma> That will avoid installing recommended packages by default so hopefully you don't get all the gnome libs.
[01:43] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- Works in the Mac terminal, too. Now, where do I put the Mac's IP address?
[01:43] <emma> You can see what WOULD happen by using the simulate command: sudo aptitude -s install firefox
[01:43] <Bearcat> thanks for the support ActionParsnip
[01:44] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: awesome nic by the way. You should have your own  action figure
[01:45] <lakis1982> how can i uninstall them all?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: its a harry hill joke
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: you could awk and grap like crazy, id just type them or copy paste
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: in your file browser type: smb://<ip address>/<share name>
[01:47] <courtjesterg> WHATS UP NEWBIEE
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: try a little later, someone may be able to help
[01:47] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: i shall. thanks
[01:47] <courtjesterg> just installed kubuntu
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: nice
[01:48] <courtjesterg> anybody know how i get that invisble desktop back on the desktop lol
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> invisible desktop?
[01:49] <Bearcat> ActionParsnip: i think he means the file browser plamoid
[01:49] <Bearcat> what ever it's called
[01:49] <courtjesterg> i restart the computer and then it was gone! Yeah when you first start up the system on the desktop it has a window thats invisable and you can add stuff inthere
[01:49] <courtjesterg> it said desktop onit
[01:49] <jwaldo> Hooray, it worked! If I can remember which password I need to enter for authentication >_>
[01:49] <courtjesterg> checked my widgets nah
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: your DNS isnt working
[01:50] <Bearcat> courtjesterg: add the "Folder view" to your desktop, set that to show the Desktop folder and then enlarge it to fill the desktop space.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: right click dsktop -> add widget -> folder view
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> widgets are evil
[01:50] <courtjesterg> ok thaks new to this irc chat too used it long ago welcome to a new era a free era of development
[01:51]  * Bearcat wishes kde4 had a good chat program. He's stuck using gaim
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Bearcat: pidgin is awesome
[01:51] <Bearcat> *shrugs* i don't care for it as much
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> Kopete works fine for me
[01:52] <Bearcat> Dragnslcr: for irc? Really? What version?
[01:52] <wesley> Bearcat Kopete >
[01:52] <wesley> ?
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> I stopped following Pidgin development after the magically-expanding-textarea episode
[01:53] <wesley> For IRC i use Konversation
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Bearcat- sorry, thought you meant IM
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Konversation is good enough for me
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> i use a whole host of protocols so having a seperate app for irc doesnt make any sense to me
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Wish it had event-based scripting, but I'm dealing with it
[01:53] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- something on my computer not working. Hardly a new experience =|
[01:54] <Bearcat> Dragnslcr: no probs. I've been using emacs to do irc. If that not geeky i donno what is!
[01:55] <jwaldo> must eat, brb
[01:56] <courtjesterg> no i beleive it said workspace but again no widget
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> thats all i got then dude. i dont use gui stuff hardly so im no use
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> you could try a litttle later
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> or ask in #kde
[01:58] <lakis1982_> To continue, hit ok and we will try to recover. If you close the application now, we will not do anything and you may try to resolve the problem manually.
[01:58] <lakis1982_> (If you suspect this is a bug in Adept, please also provide the following exception description in the report).
[01:58] <lakis1982_> The error was:
[01:58] <lakis1982_> APT Error. Context:
[01:58] <lakis1982_>     Running dpkg,
[01:58] <lakis1982_>     [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --configure, openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us, plasmoid-weather ],
[01:58] <lakis1982_>     Sup-process returned error code 1,
[01:58] <lakis1982_>     Error processing openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us : subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127.
[01:58] <lakis1982_> this is what it writes whenever i try to install something on package manager
[01:58] <courtjesterg> odd this chat room is for the os i am using and nobody knows or remebers when they first started on there desktop?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982_: sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get update
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: how do you mean first started on their desktop?
[02:01] <lakis1982_> do i have to write these commands everytime ?
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982_: just this once
[02:03] <lakis1982_> let me try install something with package manager and see what it writes
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982_: can you install with apt-get
[02:03] <lakis1982_> do you any package that constains many codecs plugins for audio video ?
[02:04] <lakis1982_> install what?
[02:04] <lakis1982_> with appt-get
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982_: whatever you want to install
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982_: what are you wanting to install?
[02:07] <lakis1982_> it gets me the same error everytime
[02:08] <lakis1982_> nothing specifically .. i just want to see what goes wrong and everytieme i install something in package manager i get error
[02:09] <Linux_Galore_> anyone know why intrepid would boot up and everything looks fine but i cant get web access, router is fine I have a laptop plugged in
[02:09] <Linux_Galore_> it was working fine lasy night
[02:10] <Linux_Galore_> all the system tools are showing its connecting but i cant ping or anything
[02:11] <Linux_Galore_> in hosts.conf why is the "order hosts,bind" line there, should i disable this
[02:11] <Linux_Galore_> I dont have bind setup
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: do you have an ip address assigned from dhcp?
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: ifconfig
[02:12] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: yes it has an ip
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: can you give use a pastebin of your ifconfig output as well as /etc/network/interfaces file (feel free to remove any security in the file)
[02:13] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: I have no network connection
[02:14] <Linux_Galore_> see if i can ssh into my laptop
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: can you ping your routers IP?
[02:14] <mister-tea> can you send suggestions to be included in the sound card troubleshooting guide? If so, how?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: can you ping www.bmezine.com
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: can you ping 38.99.130.180
[02:15] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: I can ssh from the desktop (with no web access) to my laptop
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: what about pings to the ip and name i gave?
[02:17] <Linux_Galore_> hold on let me copy the ifconfig output over first
[02:20] <jwaldo> Hmmmm, one thing I miss about Windows- problems had a habit of just going away after a while :P
[02:20] <Linux_Galore_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/69443/
[02:21] <Linux_Galore_> yes i can ping an ip but not do a lookup
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: then dns is failing
[02:21] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: I think its that extra line in hosts.conf
[02:21] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: my laptop doesnt have it
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: add one of these IPs to /etc/resolv.conf
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: http://theos.in/windows-xp/free-fast-public-dns-server-list/
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: those are public DNS servers
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: that can sort stuff out, only add one or two
[02:24] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: resolve.conf has the opendns IP same as this laptop
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: well if you can connect via ip but not name then dns is failing
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> logically
[02:25] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: now its working, and no I havent edited anything
[02:25] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: slow assed dhcpd
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: maybe its just a dns burp
[02:26] <jwaldo> hmm, when I try to directly access my laptop's shared folder, it asks for username and password. Whose username and password do I use?
[02:26] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: I noticed the bind line disapapeared from /etc/host.conf by itself
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: the one you set with sudo smbpasswd
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: strange
[02:27] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: yeah, computers dont do thing by themselves unless there is a conflict
[02:27] <matt__> In KDE4, is there a way to change the time to AM/PM?
[02:28] <jtechidna> matt__: System Settings -> Regional and Language -> time tab
[02:28] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: wonder were it got the order hosts,bind  crap from in host.conf
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> matt__: there doesnt appear to be an option for it in the widget's options
[02:29] <Linux_Galore_> ActionParsnip: I suspect its a timeout that forced dhcpd to try again
[02:30] <matt__> ActionParsnip: jtechidna Oh, thanks. Sorta driving me nuts. Other than that, KDE4.1* is solid ;)
[02:30] <jtechidna> :)
[02:30]  * mister-tea seems like he might wait awhile to upgrade to 8.10 with all the troubles I've seen
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Linux_Galore_: if it happens again, you could restart networking to bup start
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> mister-tea: works 100% here. but all my hardware is 100% linux certified :D
[02:33] <jwaldo> Odd, the only folder it shows on my laptop apparently doesn't exist
[02:33] <VicTheHunter> Hello, I can't get compiz Rotate Cube effect to work on KDE.  Would someone please help me for a moment?
[02:34] <cuznt> !compiz
[02:35] <cuznt> try that vic
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> VicTheHunter: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:35] <VicTheHunter> Thanks. Is #compiz-fusion an irc channel?
[02:36] <mister-tea> matt__ the short answer is yes I have seen this question answered before but I'm still on 3.5 so I can't tell you how
[02:36] <mister-tea> there yoou go
[02:36] <VicTheHunter> I have installed compiz. Also, my screen automatically switches between desktops every time my mouse touches the edge of the screen. How do I disable the auto-screen-switch?
[02:37] <matt__> mister-tea: It's ok, someone told me.
[02:37] <VicTheHunter> It's annoying, because I use my keyboard and mouse on my lap.  When the mouse rolls to the edge, the active window is gone.
[02:37] <VicTheHunter> lap -> that is, my lapdesk.
[02:39] <mister-tea> ActionParsnip: thanks but I still have a problem with mediamanager and usb sticks is that cured in 8.10 if so I'm there
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> mister-tea: mediamanager?
[02:41] <mister-tea> yeah when I try to mount usb or digital camera I get mediamanager is not running error I've yet to cure it
[02:42] <mister-tea> I had it working on 3.5.9 but it came back since 3.5.10
[02:42] <jwaldo> Apparently I was wrong about being able to connect directly to the laptop- tried the same process with a made-up IP address, same result
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> ive not heard of that one mister-tea. I just use mount
[02:44] <mister-tea> well I've read alot about it recently and I still have a few things to try but the wife is pissy about not being able to upload her pictures
[02:44] <mister-tea> has something to do with kded
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> mister-tea: just mount it with mount and you get a score, ive never heard of mediamanager
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> although i do have it installed
[02:46] <mister-tea> well I can't seem to find it either but it prohibits me from any mounting manual or otherwise I got around it before by removing dolphin but as I said it's back
[02:47] <mister-tea> If I could find it I would try removing it
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> mister-tea: could switch to gnome
[02:49] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- you know the terminal command for sending a limited number of pings?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: ping www.aol.com -c 4
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> example
[02:50] <jwaldo> cool
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> man ping ;)
[02:51] <jwaldo> my laptop does respond when I ping the router-assigned IP address or the regular IP address
[02:52] <ziroday> I installed the package kubuntu-desktop which installed a whole bunch of kde stuff. Now I want to get rid of all the kde stuff I did removed kubuntu-desktop but it didn't autoremove all the kde stuff. How do I get rid of it all?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: add your routers ip as a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | ziroday
[02:53] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[02:54] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip- it's already there
[02:55] <ziroday> um thats removing a whole load of packages, including wine, liferea, ogmrip, etc...
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: then your router is having issues. id reboot it
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: then edit those out
[02:57] <jwaldo> brb
[02:58] <VicTheHunter> Hello, How do I disable all of the messages which say who enters or leaves this irc chat room?
[02:58] <metbsd> does anyone use webcam and microphone to do web conference with other people here?
[02:59] <mister-tea> ActionParsnip did you get any of that through the net split?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> mister-tea: didnt see anything
[03:00] <mister-tea> I got kicked on the last one
[03:01] <mister-tea> I was down to 25 people in the room
[03:02] <mister-tea> ActionParsnip do you know if I need mediamanger at all?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> mister-tea: not sure, uninstall it and see what happens, you can always reinstall it
[03:05] <mister-tea> k I'll try it later when I"m back on that box
[03:07] <jwaldo_> I think I'll give up on making my LAN play nice together for today
[03:10] <Pyles17> I need help connecting my wireless internet in kubuntu 8.10
[03:10] <mister-tea> !ask
[03:12] <Pyles17> How do I connect wireless internet with an Intel 3945ABG card?
[03:13] <bazhang> Pyles17, open a terminal and type ifconfig; how many entries are there
[03:14] <Pyles17> 2: eth0 and lo
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: bazhang: http://kerneltrap.org/node/7704
[03:14] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, mine works :)
[03:14] <mister-tea> http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=934392 discusses the problem
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/making-intel-wireless-3945abg-work-better-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: laptop or desktop?
[03:15] <Pyles17> laptop. gateway/mpc tablet
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: is the wifi switched on?
[03:16] <Pyles17> yes
[03:17] <Pyles17> it works in windows xp
[03:19] <jwaldo_> Now when I try to connect to the laptop's IP address, I get a server timeout. Almost improvement-like
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo_: is it the same ip as the system you are connecting to? maybe its dhcp lease expired and it has a new one
[03:20] <jwaldo_> It's the IP assigned by the router
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo_: check its the right ip
[03:23] <jwaldo_> ActionParsnip- definitely the right IP
[03:23] <Pyles17> actionparsnip: the iwlwifi page says the released drivers won't work with kernels 2.6.24 and up. is that a problem?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: maybe, you can use ndiswrapper if you turn up blank
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: which kernel are you running, use uname -a
[03:25] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: 2.6.27
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: on intrepid
[03:27] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: That's 8.10 right? I'm a Linux newb
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> yeah 8.10 = intrepid
[03:27] <Pyles17> ok. then yes
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: lsb_release -a | grep -i code
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[03:29] <Pyles17> right
[03:30] <jwaldo_> Okay, got the direct connection working. The laptop's firewall was blocking the connection
[03:31] <jwaldo_> brb
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: what does lshw -C network show
[03:33] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip:
[03:33] <Pyles17> *-network UNCLAIMED
[03:33] <Pyles17>        description: Network controller
[03:33] <Pyles17>        product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
[03:33] <Pyles17>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[03:33] <Pyles17>        physical id: 0
[03:33] <Pyles17>        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[03:33] <Pyles17>        version: 02
[03:34] <Pyles17>        width: 32 bits
[03:34] <Pyles17>        clock: 33MHz
[03:34] <Pyles17>        capabilities: cap_list
[03:34] <Pyles17>        configuration: latency=0
[03:34] <mister-tea> !paste
[03:34] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: the other two are ethernet interfaces
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> yeah, unclaimed means no driver
[03:35] <mister-tea> driver s/b iwl3945
[03:36] <Pyles17> so it would be this one? iwlwifi-3945-ucode-15.28.1.8.tgz
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: looks good to me
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: madwifi-tools may help
[03:38] <_2> i have a few UNCLAIMED on this box, don't we all ?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> _2: nope, all installed :D
[03:38] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: what do i do with a .tgz file?
[03:38] <_2> ActionParsnip really ?    sudo lshw | grep UNCLAIMED   is blank for you ?
[03:39]  * mister-tea high fives _2
[03:39] <_2> andy not if you are on windows !  :)
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> _2: scanning now
[03:40] <mister-tea> no My ubuntu box downstairs
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> _2: http://pastebin.com/m544cae8b
[03:40] <_2> oh ok then   ^5
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: tar zxvf iwlwifi-3945-ucode-15.28.1.8.tgz
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> _2: is that all groovy?
[03:41]  * mister-tea has loaded ubuntu back in his play box
[03:41] <_2> suits me.  i just asked...
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> _2 :D
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: that extracts the data, then go into the folder it creates and read the readme's etc
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: you may need to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> !keys
[03:44] <courtjesterg> AM THE BOMB I AM THE BOMB
[03:44] <courtjesterg> i am in heaven
[03:44] <courtjesterg> look at all this software
[03:44] <_2> lol courtjesterg
[03:44] <courtjesterg> i will never have to search for a program again
[03:45] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: I'll try that. right now it says: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[03:45] <courtjesterg> hey whats up with this kmail i use gmail is it my enemy? How do i get a kmail
[03:46] <courtjesterg> do i already have a kmail?
[03:46] <jwaldo> ActionParsnip: I've emerged victorious. Thanks a million =)
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: you have to be in the same folder as the file
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> jwaldo: sweet
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: dpkg -l | grep -i kmail
[03:47] <courtjesterg> ? what???
[03:48] <courtjesterg> do have a kmail or do i have to sign up for one?
[03:48] <courtjesterg> or is it just the programs name
[03:48] <jtechidna> KMail is just the program's name
[03:48] <Pyles17> courtjesterg: kmail is only a client. It basically brings your email to your computer, it's not actually a mail service
[03:48] <courtjesterg> ohhh
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: its like outlook express
[03:50] <courtjesterg> yeah i got it i know  its just like thunderbird and ect....
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> exactly
[03:50] <courtjesterg> so how secure is this browser and this email client?
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> secure in what way?
[03:51] <jwaldo> Looks like I'll be celebrating my victory by trying to get Amarok to play my iTunes files >_<
[03:51] <courtjesterg> i mean is there still a high threat to virus or no cause this is written in a different code then windows
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: oh yeah its groovy as windows viri wont touch you
[03:51] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: so if it's on my desktop, would it be?: tar zxvf home/michael/desktop/iwlwifi-3945-ucode-15.28.1.8.tgz
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: just run it as user and you'll be pretty much ok (linux virii do exist but are very limited and dont do much really due to the user model)
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: desktop has a capital D
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: linux is case sensitive
[03:52] <Pyles17> that would explain why it didn't work.
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: you can tab complete stuff, saves bother
[03:53] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: what?
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: just like you tab complete my nick, you can tab complete commands, file names and folder names
[03:55] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: sweet
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> kills your typing ability
[03:55] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: I can see how it would
[04:01] <courtjesterg> hey what about a firewall i see this guard dog firewall is it good? Should i use it? I do have McAfree and ghost surf dunno if they work for linux but they did for windows
[04:02] <_2> the firewall is iptables.  yse it's good,   firestarter, guarddog, ufw, and iptables are all ways of configuring iptables.
[04:13] <gordack> is there anyway to use compiz fusion in kubuntu on vmware ?
[04:13] <scopecreep> on a related note, how do i use beryl, or what is a good replacement for kde?
[04:13] <keisangi> hi there, is it possible to have dolphin show folder size on demand ? pretty much like it does for files, but for folder, and on demand only not automaticaly
[04:14] <keisangi> each time i want to display folder size i have to right click and show folder properties
[04:14] <keisangi> there's no other way ?
[04:14] <gordack> Im happy with KDE
[04:16] <cuznt> !dolphin
[04:17] <JontheEchidna> ^that doesn't really help in this situation...
[04:17] <cuznt> !beryl | scopecreep
[04:18] <JontheEchidna> keisangi: I assume that it doesn't calculate folder size since it is much more complicated/resource consuming
[04:18] <JontheEchidna> depending on how many subfolders a folder has, the computer could be chugging away for quite a while determining the size of the folder and all of it's contents
[04:19] <keisangi> JontheEchidna: that's why i asked "on demand" :)
[04:20] <JontheEchidna> right click -> properties :P
[04:20]  * JontheEchidna kids
[04:20] <keisangi> like a toolbar button: "display selected folder sizes"
[04:20] <keisangi> JontheEchidna: :)
[04:21] <keisangi> is there a place where to submit feature requests ?
[04:21] <JontheEchidna> http://bugs.kde.org is your best bet
[04:22] <keisangi> ok, i'll have a look, tnx
[04:22] <JontheEchidna> you can get an automagically filled out report if you go to Help -> report bug in dolphin
[04:22]  * JontheEchidna goes off to bed
[04:23] <jwaldo> Anyone remember how you change the highlighting/opening behavior of files?
[04:29] <mr_clark> HI guys. Did the upgrade to 8.10. Now when I boot up I get "No greeter widget plugin loaded. Check the configuration." How can I fix this?
[04:30] <linux__> BRAZIL ajuda
[04:30] <bazhang> !br
[04:31] <Roey> hello, how do I swap devices?  i.e. I want /dev/video0 <-> /dev/video1...
[04:34] <Pyles17> I'm trying to put the microcode for a driver in the /lib/firmware folder. cp /home/michael/iwlwifi-3945-ucode-15.28.1.8/iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode /lib/firmware gives the output cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode': Permission denied. trying to move the file to the /lib/firmware folder yields similar results. what do I do?
[04:35] <_2> !sudo | Pyles17
[04:36] <mister-tea> _2 do you know anything about mediamanager?
[04:36] <_2> no.  sorry.
[04:40] <kkathman> ok this is getting bad... when I leave my computer on for a long time and it goes into screen saver mode, I come back in a while and its frozen with a really gooffy color pattern on the screen... any ideas??
[04:41] <faydriss> like fuschia?
[04:42] <kkathman> cuznt,  nope, its multicolored vertical patterns
[04:42] <kkathman> freezes the system completely
[04:42] <kkathman> while I use the system there doesnt seem to be anything wrong
[04:43] <kkathman> just when its idle for a while
[04:43] <_2> sure it's frozen and not just display error?   test this next time.    ctrl+alt+f1  then alt+f7
[04:44] <kkathman> -2 hmm ok... I tried ctl-alt-del  and nothing happened
[04:44] <kkathman> i'll try the f1 next time
[04:44] <kkathman> I have a pretty standard intel video card
[04:44] <Roey> how do I swap devices?  i.e. I want /dev/video0 <-> /dev/video1...
[04:44] <kkathman> had no problems with Hardy
[04:45] <zbyszek> hi i have no dsound on kde4 why it might be so?
[04:46] <kkathman> _2 also when I start my firefox browser I get a sort of mixed up picture too but it quickly rights itself
[04:47] <kkathman> I am not particularly aware of any video issues on Intel chips
[04:50] <Kovert> any one have an idea why tvtime launces and then crashes?
[04:52] <_2> just a guess,  could it be a bug ?
[04:53] <_2> !bug
[04:53] <Kovert> _2: no Im the bug
[04:56] <cuznt> takes some garlic that'll kill any bug
[04:57] <Kovert> how do I load a driver on command line "bttv"
[04:57] <_2> ?    bugs eat garlic too.   are you sure you aren't thinking of umpires ?
[04:57] <_2> Kovert   sudo modprobe <module_name>
[04:58] <Kovert> _2 thanks
[04:58] <_2> oh sorry.  that was vampires,  umpires eat baseballs.   how forgitful of me.
[05:00] <Ahmuck> i just performed an "upgrade" from 8.04.1 to 8.10 via the upgrade option, and it tanked my system
[05:03] <_2> fourty two
[05:06] <ipank> heloo
[05:06] <ipank> hello all
[05:06] <ipank> i wanna ask something about kubuntu
[05:07] <_2> Q. what is the differance between a duck ?
[05:07] <_2> A. one leg is both the same.
[05:07] <_2> ask it.
[05:07] <_2> !ask
[05:08] <_2> Q. what do linux users do?
[05:08] <_2> A. they install software.
[05:09] <_2> Q. what do ubuntu users do?
[05:09] <_2> A. they install software upgrades, then they install software....  AGAIN.
[05:10] <_2> Q. what do windows users do?
[05:10] <_2> A. point and click and lol
[05:11] <_2> but only if you'll tell them your  asl on aol
[05:13] <_2> dr_willis ?    or a sneek peek at a geek ?
[05:13] <Ahmuck> r u intetionally annoying?
[05:13] <Ahmuck> s/intentionally
[05:14] <dr_willis> Hmmm?
[05:14] <_2> sorry,  forgot to disable that.  it shouldn't do that anymore.
[05:19] <ipank> i use kate to c programming
[05:20] <ipank> so why i cant compile it in konsole?
[05:20] <_2> !b-e | ipank
[05:21] <ipank> thanks alot bro
[05:23] <_2> !thanks | ipank
[05:28] <courtjesterg> hello again
[05:29] <courtjesterg> hey ok newbeee anyway so i guess disk mamagement and such like defrage your hard drive these programs i have to search for i've seen a program that canshow everything in your system like system devices and such
[05:31] <courtjesterg> do you all just sit int his room and not say anything ooout of 284 people
[05:32] <_2> pfft.  courtjesterg  impatient to a fault
[05:34]  * dr_willis totally missed the whole discussion
[05:34]  * dr_willis didenent even understand the question.
[05:36] <Ahmuck> i used to be able to cd /media/cdrom to the mounted cd.  has that chaned in kubuntu 8.10 ?
[05:36] <dr_willis> I noticed mine is /media/cdrom1 now
[05:36] <dr_willis> or /media/cdrom0
[05:36] <dr_willis>  /media/cdrom is normally a link to one of those.. it maybe linked to the wrong one
[05:36] <_2> !tab | Ahmuck
[05:37] <_2> i.e.  cd /media/cd<tab>
[05:38] <_2> maybe two tabs ^
[05:38] <Ahmuck> oddly when virtual box guest additions gets mounted, and i navigate to /media/cdrom, nothing shows up.  it's as if it's mounted but it isn't
[05:39] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I always mount that cdrom manually.  Not sure the automount stuff sees those changes
[05:40] <dr_willis> I got 8.10 in virtualbox right now.. lets see
[05:40] <_2> how did you mount it ?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Somthing else i do with virtualbox.. is i mount the guest addations cd.. then i copy the files over to /root/ or whever..  just in case i need to reinstall them easier.
[05:41] <dr_willis> booting  virtualbox  :)
[05:41] <_2> Ahmuck you can use the command   "mount"  to see what is mounted where.     as well as   "df"
[05:42] <dr_willis> "Virtualbox -> Devices -> Install Guest addations' - DID auto mount that cd.. and it did popup  the filemanager window here. and asked to auto-run stuff. :)
[05:43] <dr_willis> Not that the Autorun Stuff EVER works..
[05:43] <dr_willis>  it mounted to -->   /media/cdrom0
[05:43] <Ahmuck> so your seeing files in /media/cdrom0 ?
[05:44] <dr_willis> Yes. the virtual cd is mounted there...
[05:44] <dr_willis> ls -l /media   shows ------>
[05:45] <dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    6 2008-10-18 02:30 cdrom -> cdrom0/
[05:45] <dr_willis> dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2.0K 2008-10-23 14:52 cdrom0/
[05:45] <dr_willis> so /media/cdrom is the same as /media/cdrom0 on this VB insgtall it seems
[05:46] <Ahmuck> got it.  have to open dolphin to get it to work
[05:47] <dr_willis> that basicially automounted the cdrom drive for you
[05:47] <dr_willis> 'mount /media/cdrom'  might of worked also
[05:47] <dr_willis> You will want to learn how to manually mount the cd some day. :)
[05:48] <_2> mount device mountpoint
[05:51] <_2> anyway to ls only files and not symlinks ?
[05:51] <_2> s/anyway/any way/
[05:52] <dr_willis> check the ls man pages.. but as far as i know..   hardlinks are identical to the 'file' not sure of a way to  filter out softlinks
[05:52] <dr_willis> or grep/sed out the lines that begin with a  'l' in  the ls -l output. :)
[05:52] <_2> yeah a hardlink is the same file errr the "one leg is both the same" joke ^
[05:53] <_2> well find would work too and prolly easier,  just didn't know if ls could do it.
[05:55] <Ahmuck> k, dr_willis did you get a resize window after installing guest additions or is this now borked
[05:55] <Ahmuck> nm, it worked here
[05:55] <dr_willis> a resize window after install ?
[05:55] <Ahmuck> kubuntu 8.10 is really slow booting up
[05:55] <dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <Ahmuck> why is firefox tied to so many dependancies?
[05:59] <_2> ls's -L switch is about useless imo
[06:00] <_2> Ahmuck cause it sux ?
[06:01] <_2> just a guess
[06:01] <Ahmuck> kubuntu is really slow
[06:01] <Ahmuck> 8.10
[06:02] <Ahmuck> with the same virtual machine memory
[06:03] <CoJaBo-Eee> Mine is fast
[06:04] <Ahmuck> whats ur memory size?
[06:05] <CoJaBo-Eee> 1GB
[06:06] <Ahmuck> 512
[06:07] <CoJaBo-Eee> KDE uses quite a bit of memory from what I've heard, upgrading to at least 1GB would probably help.
[06:08] <_2> oh my.    kde3 will run in 32m   you need more than 512 to run kde4 ???
[06:08] <_2> ps.  no swap  ^
[06:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> I don't think so, but it probably help if running many programs.
[06:09] <CoJaBo-Eee> I have 1GB and it is using about .5GB of swap with lots of things running (including Compiz).
[06:10] <CoJaBo-Eee> Or I thought it was, it isn't right now...
[06:10] <CoJaBo-Eee> Nvm, System monitor is screwing up the values lol
[06:11] <_2> Memory Used/Total Percent: 45/502 MB (8%)
[06:11] <_2> and no swap.
[06:11] <_2> ;/
[06:12] <CoJaBo-Eee> My CPU is running at 1Mhz and 1,600 degrees C o_O
[06:13]  * mr---t- is back
[06:13] <dr_willis> I find kde4 sluggish on my laptop with 4gb-ram. :(
[06:13] <_2> CoJaBo-Eee temp seems just a little high.    ;/
[06:13] <CoJaBo-Eee> Just a little? :P
[06:15] <Ahmuck> k, just added firefox, and it does not show up on the menu system
[06:15] <Ahmuck> is there a way to get the old menu system back?
[06:15] <Ahmuck> this new one is making me grumpy
[06:15] <_2> weather forcast for three mile island,  hot (6000°) ; five day outlook,   three days!
[06:16] <dr_willis> Theres an old-style menu plasmid you can add to the panel.
[06:16] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[06:16] <_2> CoJaBo-Eee  just a little high...
[06:16] <CoJaBo-Eee> I think System Monitor has a bug, I think I'd notice my CPU being that hot :P
[06:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> Tho it is an Atom, maybe its having a meltdown o_O
[06:17] <_2> when it dropped on the floor and started a fire there... yeah.
[06:19]  * _2 pictures cpu burning like white phosporus, streight through the case... desk... floor...
[06:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[06:22] <_2> ooops, i think it kinda over heated just a little
[06:22] <courtjesterg> i got a problem and was wondering if there was a work around can anyone see if they can help
[06:23] <_2> !ask
[06:23] <dr_willis> 'please state the nature of the linux emergancy'
[06:24] <courtjesterg> i play this game called project vistor i download it fromt he interent it is made in wondows/dos so it is an exe file of which i can't install obvious. So what can i do i paid 6 months subscription for this and there is no source code on the site.
[06:24] <dr_willis> use wine to run windows type games
[06:24] <dr_willis> !wine
[06:24] <dr_willis> It may or may not work.
[06:25] <_2> !winehq
[06:25] <dr_willis> Check the wine app database for details on that specific game
[06:25] <dr_willis> !appdb
[06:25] <_2> yeah that   and the channel   #winehq
[06:26] <Ahmuck> courtjesterg: cedega
[06:26] <dr_willis> short wine tutorual.. download the exe to the desktop,   from command line  "wine /home/USERNAME/Desktop/Whateveritscalled.exe"
[06:26] <dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <courtjesterg> ALSO when i did research on this os kubuntu i know it uses the desktop kde adn ubuntu uses gnome when i install all these adept or look at them i noticcccce some say for gnome are they compatable with kubuntu?
[06:26] <Ahmuck> wine is good for win98 type of programs.  simple things.  games u want cedega
[06:27] <dr_willis> courtjesterg,  i mixx and matchkde and gnome apps all the time.
[06:27] <_2> "wine $HOME/Desktop/*.exe
[06:27] <_2> "
[06:27] <dr_willis> wine can run  a great many games now a days.. I dont use cedega at all any more.
[06:27] <Ahmuck> http://www.cedega.com/
[06:27] <Ahmuck> dr_willis: really ?
[06:28] <dr_willis> Ahmuck,  Yes.. wine can run Steam, and WoW. so its getting rather impressive
[06:28] <dr_willis> Not sure what advancements Cedega has done lately
[06:28] <courtjesterg> alright let me check on this
[06:28] <cameri> Hello
[06:28] <_2> courtjesterg compatable ?    *buntu = *buntu = *buntu
[06:28] <dr_willis> In fact you really dont hear much about Cedega much these days..   :)
[06:29] <dr_willis> http://www.projectvisitor.com/
[06:29] <_2> courtjesterg kubuntu is ubuntu-base + kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <courtjesterg> yeah thats the link for projectvistor
[06:29] <courtjesterg> used to be called 10six back inthe day
[06:30] <OltreIrc`1517> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v3.1.5«
[06:30] <OltreIrc`1517> !list
[06:30] <courtjesterg> so kubuntu is built overtop ubuntu so it just adds on to the same format with kde
[06:30] <OltreIrc`1517> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v3.1.5«
[06:30] <OltreIrc`1517> !list
[06:31] <cameri> wiki.ubuntu-it.org is only in italian?
[06:31] <_2> cameri that's what -it is for
[06:32] <dr_willis> courtjesterg,  Kubuntu is ubuntu with kde, instead of gnome.. You can easially install gnome if you want
[06:32] <cameri> right... I thought it was something like: Do-it kind of thing, see what I mean?
[06:32] <_2> !it
[06:32] <_2> !fr
[06:32] <_2> see what i mean.
[06:33] <cameri> :P
[06:33] <dr_willis> !cn
[06:33] <cameri> yay!
[06:33] <_2> !el
[06:33] <cameri> ok man i got the point
[06:34] <_2> wait one more.
[06:34] <_2> !en
[06:34] <_2> :)
[06:35] <mr---t-> show off
[06:35] <_2> oh.  ok.
[06:36]  * cameri smashes _2's head against the desk
[06:36] <cameri> aw..
[06:44] <isaacj87> does anyone know how to get the nifty sysinfo like in OpenSUSE?
[06:45] <Ahmuck> i run into a problem where i'm updating several virtual machines and it's downloading the same stuff over and over.  is there a way to create a repository locally for the virtual machines and save bandwidth?
[06:45] <courtjesterg> HOW THE HELL IS ACHLLES AN ARTIFICAL LIFE SIMILATOR I AM TELLING YOU it looks like a random bunch of box flat models in a movie attacking your screen found int he science section
[06:45] <Ahmuck> could you guys quit abusing the bot
[06:51] <courtjesterg> hi bot where youa t
[06:51] <courtjesterg> bot tell me what is myspace url?
[06:51] <cameri> come on..
[06:51] <chrisruls00> I'm having a problem with KDE4 running some apps like konversation and k3b. The drop-down menus are all empty and sometimes text just dissappears on me!
[06:52] <FisherPrice> how is kde4 going?
[06:52] <courtjesterg> great i just installed it
[06:52] <FisherPrice> is it stabilising?
[06:52] <courtjesterg> so i have no clue
[06:52] <courtjesterg> first time linux userr but have played with macs and such
[06:52] <cameri> us, first timers, have much to learn
[06:53] <courtjesterg> i got the os down already
[06:53] <cameri> im scared of installing stuff
[06:53] <cameri> cuz my installation might break
[06:53] <cameri> =/
[06:53] <cameri> but anyways i install/uninstall stuff
[06:53] <courtjesterg> its just something i just don't know about used one os used them all
[06:53] <courtjesterg> i installed to the harddrive and took my windows xp out
[06:54] <courtjesterg> even played with vita it was the same basically with a new splash design
[06:54] <courtjesterg> vista
[06:57] <FisherPrice> first time linux users now, don't have as much to learn as first timers 5 years ago
[06:57] <cameri> you are damn right
[06:57] <courtjesterg> why do i see file managers for download when kubuntu already has one makes no sense to develope an add on
[06:58] <cameri> courtjesterg, if u dont like the one that kubuntu install, you can try another
[06:58] <FisherPrice> i remember recompiling redhat kde src rpm's to get mp3 support
[06:58] <cameri> if you do like it, then great
[06:58] <cameri> i remember installing red hat, and downloading codecs
[06:58] <cameri> and i remember i managed to play mp3s :D
[06:58] <cameri> that was like, 4 yrs ago
[06:59] <cameri> or something
[06:59] <courtjesterg> yeah noticed my keyboard is missing functions lol  gotta see about that so is linux code written in c or c++ or is it something different i got a c++ book
[06:59] <cameri> Has anyone seen the t-shirt that says Got root?
[06:59] <courtjesterg> just need the compiler
[07:00] <isaacj87> FisherPrice: Definitely, KDE 4.2 is going to be a great release. KDE 4.1 is pretty soild for me
[07:00] <courtjesterg> knows a little about functions and loops and rays
[07:00] <FisherPrice> i hear that.. the next release is having kde4 standard. is it going to be 4.2?
[07:01] <isaacj87> FisherPrice: The next release of Kubuntu? 8.10 already has KDE 4.1 standard.
[07:01] <cameri> kde 4.1 has given me problems, i had to re-install like 8 times...
[07:01] <cameri> and im not joking
[07:01] <FisherPrice> i hope they work on it a bit more...
[07:02] <cameri> well, this kubuntu 8.10..
[07:02] <FisherPrice> for stability
[07:02] <isaacj87> cameri: Strange, I don't have any problems with KDE 4.1
[07:02] <isaacj87> I read an article that put it quite nicely...KDE 4.0 was alpha, KDE 4.1 is Beta, KDE 4.2 is RC, KDE 4.3/4.4/4.5 stable releases
[07:03] <cameri> hmm, does anybody's screen flicker every 10 seconds?
[07:03] <isaacj87> cameri: yeah, simple fix....just turn off the RANDR service
[07:03] <courtjesterg> i did in the browser
[07:03] <cameri> i get a black flash about every 10 secs
[07:03] <cameri> isaacj87: sure... where is the Service Manager?
[07:04] <cameri> found it
[07:04] <courtjesterg> running a geforce3
[07:04] <isaacj87> cameri: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/
[07:04] <cameri> isaacj87: man, thanks a lot, my screen stopped flickering :D
[07:04] <FisherPrice> how does the compositing in kde4 compare with compiz?
[07:04] <isaacj87> cameri: It's so annoying right? lol, I'm glad I found a fix
[07:05] <dr_willis> I tend to disabel them both FisherPrice  :)
[07:05] <ptl> anyone here uses Intel AGN 4965 with LEAP?
[07:05] <ptl> Wireless
[07:05] <courtjesterg> FisherPrice whats for the holidays =)
[07:05] <isaacj87> FisherPrice: Fairly well. Not nearly has complex as CF, but it can hold its own. Kwin in 4.2 is pretty nice as well...from what I've seen
[07:05] <ptl> why wlassistant is not on 8.10' repositories? :(
[07:05] <cameri> isaacj87: +1 karma for you
[07:05] <ptl> !wlassistant
[07:05] <ptl> :[
[07:06] <FisherPrice> i like the compositing.. i just like showing the youtube clips for CF to people at work and say "can windows do this?"
[07:06] <PSiL0> ahh the ati driver won't activate on my fresh install
[07:06] <FisherPrice> but i do find it usefull at times
[07:06] <ptl> I did not even try compiz fusion with KDE 4.1.3
[07:07] <FisherPrice> especially transparent windows
[07:07] <PSiL0> press the activate button at it just sits there....
[07:07] <FisherPrice> and zoom
[07:07] <ptl> I am too scared to try
[07:07] <ptl> it might blow up everything
[07:07] <FisherPrice> lol
[07:07] <ptl> compiz fusion is sort of fragile, what if it conflicts with KDE 4.1 effects?
[07:07] <isaacj87> One thing I uninstalled on Kubuntu and replaced was that stupid guidance power manager applet. I replaced it with PowerDevil (in the repos) and it's so much nicer.
[07:07] <PSiL0> i guess my other successful install two days ago was one-off
[07:07] <SilentDis> hello
[07:07] <ptl> really, it scares me
[07:08] <dr_willis> I agree with the first part of tha tstatement  'compiz fusion is sort of fragile'
[07:08] <ptl> isaacj87: me too!
[07:08] <dr_willis> :)
[07:08] <cameri> well, i had to re-install 8 times thanks to enabling All Effects
[07:08] <PSiL0> :-/
[07:08] <ptl> isaacj87: but do you have an applet for it?
[07:08] <dr_willis> cameri,  gee.. seems like it would of been faster to learn how to disable them :)
[07:08] <isaacj87> ptl: Not for PowerDevil
[07:08] <ptl> isaacj87: yeah, this is a problem, don't you think?
[07:09] <isaacj87> ptl: Kind of. I guess if you're in need of quick access to it. But you can always just use KRunner and change what setting you want.
[07:09] <SilentDis> this answer escapes me.  I have this computer setup and running Kubuntu 8.10.  I have a laptop with Damn Small Linux on it (rather underpowered box).  I'd like to use the laptop as a 'thin client' and have it log into my main computer.  I can ssh in, and spawn x apps without issues (from laptop to desktop), but i'd like it to be easier.  Ideally, it would act as another client screen with it's own keyboard/mouse to this machine.  any suggestions?
[07:10] <cameri> dr_willis, i thought the problem was something else
[07:11] <dr_willis> SilentDis,  you can use xdmcp and the X -query stuff to sort of do that.  (well thats how it used tobe done)
[07:11] <isaacj87> ptl: press alt+f2 and type power profile and you can easily switch. Just set up your profile nicely and it works out pretty well :)
[07:11] <dr_willis> but it may be easier/better to just forward the single apps you use
[07:11] <ptl> isaacj87: humm, good tip
[07:11] <SilentDis> dr_willis: got a howto somewhere?  I know i did this before way back, i just can't remember any of it lol
[07:11] <cameri> i installed qtcurve, yet i fail to see it in Styles
[07:11] <dr_willis> XDMCP guides
[07:11] <cameri> =/
[07:12] <dr_willis> enable xdmcp on the GDM loginmanager,  and i forget how ya start X  on the client, DSL may be a bit tricky
[07:12] <PSiL0> anyone?
[07:12] <isaacj87> ptl: I'm not going to lie though...I like PowerDevil cause it makes that nice little sound when I plug/unplug my laptop :P
[07:12] <PSiL0> *sigh*
[07:12] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[07:12] <courtjesterg> noticed download a disk manager doesn't work
[07:13] <dr_willis> sorry PSiL0  i dont use ati.
[07:13] <dr_willis> welli got a laptop with ati..but it worked. :)
[07:13] <courtjesterg> it sits in the task bar then closes out noting happens
[07:13] <isaacj87> PSiL0: you could try Envy
[07:13] <PSiL0> dr_willis:  Yeah, it worked well two days ago
[07:14] <dr_willis> there have been some kerel updates.. could of messed somthing up
[07:14] <dr_willis> try booting an older kernel?
[07:14] <PSiL0> hmmm could be the case, but I'm using the same liveCD.. although, there could have been updates during the install
[07:15] <tacosarecool> hello
[07:15] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Half that xdmcp guide isent needed for them i set it up last.. but that was on a ubuntu to ubuntu box..
[07:15] <tacosarecool> I have a problem with flash 10
[07:15] <tacosarecool> It won't work right with my webcam
[07:15] <dr_willis> its amazinghow often the 2 words 'flash and problem' are used in the same sentance. :)
[07:15] <tacosarecool> It worked fine during the betas of flash 10
[07:16] <kkathman> what's the appropriate site to file bug reports for kubuntu/ibex?
[07:16] <dr_willis> !bugs
[07:16] <kkathman> yhsnc
[07:16] <kkathman> oops thanx I mean
[07:17] <cameri> so, how do I disable compiz, is it enough to have it uninstalled?
[07:17] <dr_willis> dont uninstall it.. :)
[07:17] <dr_willis> just disable it.
[07:17] <dr_willis> !info fusion-icon
[07:17] <dr_willis> ive used that tool befor to great success.. :) to enble/disable it.
[07:18] <sezitas> hi! I just instaled kubuntu 8.04 and upgraded to 8.10 so to kde 4 and kde is extreamly slow I also have compiz and i have to start it manualy every time! I am thinking of going back to ubuntu or tu kubuntu 8.04 what do advice me to do
[07:19] <cameri> thanks
[07:19] <cameri> but, why not uninstall it?
[07:19] <isaacj87> cameri: because if it's not running, then all it's doing is taking up about 30 megs of space
[07:20] <isaacj87> cameri: what concerns you about keeping it installed?
[07:20] <dr_willis> Uninstalling it - can cause otehr annoyingissues. :)
[07:20] <dr_willis> at leat in the past it has.
[07:20] <tacosarecool> How do I end a process
[07:20] <cameri> dunno, it's the cause of all my nightmares atm
[07:20] <tacosarecool> !how to end a process
[07:20] <tacosarecool> !process
[07:20] <tacosarecool> !proccess
[07:20] <cameri> everytime i enable effects, my screen goes blank
[07:21] <cameri> or black
[07:21] <dr_willis> tacosarecool,  it may help to just go google :) instead of bot-fishing.. heh
[07:21] <tacosarecool> !task manager
[07:21] <tacosarecool> Ok
[07:21] <isaacj87> tacosarecool: You can do a "killall <processgoeshere>"
[07:21] <isaacj87> tacosarecool: in konsole
[07:21] <dr_willis> tacosarecool,  several ways, kill, xkill,  killall, or other ways
[07:21] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:21] <dr_willis> xkill is fun!
[07:21] <cameri> sudo reboot too!
[07:21] <isaacj87> tacosarecool: you can also just open up the system monitor, right click the process and kill it that way
[07:21] <dr_willis> Yea - system monitor.. however ya get to that now...
[07:22] <isaacj87> dr_willis: lol
[07:22] <dr_willis> Vista makes is so easy! --  alt-ctrl-delete.. :) how Logicalis that eh!
[07:22] <dr_willis> :)
[07:22] <isaacj87> tacosarecool: applications->system->system monitor
[07:22] <cameri> what does ctrl alt backspace actually do?
[07:23] <isaacj87> cameri: restart X
[07:23] <cameri> ok
[07:23] <isaacj87> cameri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[07:24] <sezitas> why is kde 4 slower than kde 3???
[07:25] <PSiL0> damn, i'll just try reinstalling it yet again..
[07:25] <cameri> isaacj87: thanks
[07:25] <cameri> hmm, everytime i click an url it opens thunderbird...
[07:25] <cameri> instead of FF
[07:25] <PSiL0> envy says that recommended driver is enabled, but it is the ubuntu driver, not fglrx
[07:25] <isaacj87> cameri: TBH, I don't understand that crap either lol
[07:26] <sezitas> does anyone know why kde 4 runs slower than kde3??? I'm really anoyed by this
[07:27] <sezitas> uh... nevermind... I'm switching back to ubuntu 8.04
[07:28] <PSiL0> same problem as this guy (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975739)
[07:29] <sezitas> sooo what good did that do to me?
[07:29] <isaacj87> PSiL0: I would try asking in #ubuntu
[07:30] <holymoo> sezitas: its not optimized yet
[07:30] <PSiL0> well, it is with a kubuntu livecd
[07:30] <isaacj87> PSiL0: Does envy not allow you to install the version it detected for your card/chipset?
[07:30] <holymoo> or rather all the libraries
[07:30] <holymoo> kde3 had many years of elbow grease beyhind it
[07:30] <holymoo> remember kde4 is a whole new framework, pretty well from scratch
[07:30] <isaacj87> PSiL0: I'm pretty sure you can activate the driver unless you install Kubuntu first.
[07:30] <isaacj87> can'*
[07:30] <PSiL0> isaac: Envy recommends the ubuntu driver, not fglrx...
[07:31] <isaacj87> PSiL0: Can't* damn I can't type today
[07:31] <holymoo> don't use envy tho
[07:31] <sezitas> holymoo: ok so the best option would be to go back to 8.04???
[07:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> lol
[07:31] <PSiL0> issac: I installed kubuntu two days ago and my ati card activated without a hitch
[07:31] <holymoo> once you do removing what you install will be hell
[07:31] <PSiL0> 8.10
[07:31] <isaacj87> PSiL0: Yeah, because you installed Kubuntu. You're trying to activate the driver on the LiveCD. I don't think that works
[07:31] <holymoo> sezitas: what problem are you having specifically? i've gotten banned by retards in #ubuntu again so can't follow up there if you are checking in both
[07:32] <cameri> hmm im downloading intrepid-backports/main, that doesnt look good
[07:32] <PSiL0> isaac., I installed kubuntu and then I activated the card from the prompt after login
[07:32] <sezitas> i'm not in both ....
[07:32] <PSiL0> worked fine two days ago
[07:32] <holymoo> sezitas: regardless ... what problem are you trying to solve?
[07:32] <sezitas> but nevermind I;m gonna go back to ubuntu 8.04
[07:32] <PSiL0> now, I did the same thing after another fresh install, and the activation button just hangs
[07:32] <sezitas> easier that way
[07:32] <sezitas> thanks anyway
[07:39] <besitzer> hallo
[07:44] <metellius> other than the fact that gvim doesn't actually run at all with the new gtk-oxygen style stuff, once you disable that, has anyone noticed that gvim drawing performance has become annoyingly slow?
[07:45] <metellius> (I would turn off compositing now to check if it's because of that, but it crashes my xorg 50% of the times when I do that)
[07:46] <ptl> FINALLY
[07:46] <ptl> found some useful dbus stuff
[07:46] <courtjesterg> i need some irc chat rooms how do i do this?
[07:46] <ptl> qdbus org.kde.krunner /ScreenSaver Lock
[07:47] <Cameri> :9
[07:47] <courtjesterg> 9
[07:47] <Cameri> these widgets are so limited
[07:47] <courtjesterg> i need a twenty something chat room
[07:49] <courtjesterg> ok ok any porn chat?
[07:49] <Cameri> ...
[07:49] <courtjesterg> a/s/l
[07:49] <courtjesterg> 27/m/ny
[07:49] <bazhang> courtjesterg, no.
[07:49] <courtjesterg> =(
[07:49] <bazhang> not on freenode
[07:49] <courtjesterg> no midnight sex with strangerrs aww come on
[07:49] <bazhang> courtjesterg, stop
[07:50] <courtjesterg> fine fine but if you wantme to stop you got to spank me
[07:50] <courtjesterg> ;)
[07:51] <bazhang> !coc | courtjesterg
[07:51] <courtjesterg> ack  i'll play nice ;)
[07:53] <ptl> 34/m/Brazil
[07:53] <bazhang> !offtopic
[07:54] <kkathman> lol
[07:54] <Cameri> im scared that, if i log off
[07:54] <Cameri> i mean
[07:54] <Cameri> reboot
[07:54] <Cameri> i wnt be able to boot again
[07:54] <Cameri> O_O
[07:54] <tacosarecool> I must of denied access to the camera and then I said remember
[07:56] <Cameri> bye y'all
[07:56] <Cameri> and thanks!
[08:03] <arshad> HI ALL
[08:03] <arshad> CAN ONYONE HELP ME OUT
[08:03] <arshad> HERE
[08:03] <arshad> !!!!1111
[08:03] <bazhang> arshad, no caps please
[08:03] <arshad> okay
[08:03] <arshad> okay
[08:03] <dr_willis> and it helps to ask an actual question
[08:03] <dr_willis> :)
[08:04] <arshad> my sound is tooo low
[08:04] <arshad> in ubu 8.04
[08:04] <coreymon77> turn it up?
[08:04] <bazhang> need more detail
[08:04] <arshad> unable to locate n config sound card
[08:04] <dr_willis> sounds like that would be NO sound.. not low sound.
[08:04] <dig> ya
[08:05] <kkathman> double click speaker icon and turn up the sliders maybe?
[08:05] <arshad> there is sound,   am hearing songs.............  but compared to Win xp its very  low
[08:05] <kkathman> or even click on the mixer and make sure the sliders are all up
[08:05] <arshad> that is done
[08:05] <kkathman> i.e. PCM
[08:06] <arshad> ?
[08:06] <RurouniJones> Click on the speaker icon in the tray bottom right
[08:07] <RurouniJones> then when the main slider appears there is a "mixed" button underneath
[08:07] <coreymon77> goodnight all
[08:07] <kkathman> thats what I just said :) heh
[08:07] <RurouniJones> "mixer" button rather
[08:07] <RurouniJones> click that and you will get another menu
[08:07] <arshad> its on top right
[08:07] <RurouniJones> kkathman: I don't think he knows what the mixer menu is
[08:07] <RurouniJones> since he questions PCM
[08:07] <arshad> n theres no mixer menu
[08:07] <kkathman> its pretty obvious when you d/c the speaker :)
[08:07] <kkathman> but maybe not to some
[08:08] <arshad> i think i need to change frm default to my Sound card
[08:08] <arshad> where d i find it
[08:10] <RurouniJones> You have tow sound cards in your system?
[08:10] <RurouniJones> two
[08:10] <arshad> where d i find the mixer menu
[08:10] <kkathman> still I wouldnt think that would cause "low" volume
[08:10] <RurouniJones> Me neither, I am humouring
[08:10] <RurouniJones> Arshad, read what I said
[08:10] <RurouniJones> click ont eh speaker icon in the tray
[08:10] <kkathman> lol
[08:10] <arshad> ok
[08:11] <RurouniJones> that should pop up a slider
[08:11] <arshad> carry on rur
[08:11] <creative> hello, my kubuntu intrepid give black screen(i guess monitor turns off) while i starting to boot the cd, can any1 help me pls
[08:11] <RurouniJones> under the slider there should be a button marked "Mixer"
[08:11] <RurouniJones> Click on "mixer"
[08:11] <kkathman> creative  please explain
[08:12] <arshad> nope .......
[08:12] <RurouniJones> Ok, hit ALT+F2
[08:12] <RurouniJones> then type in "kmix"
[08:12] <arshad> thats run in terminal
[08:12] <RurouniJones> no it isn't
[08:12] <RurouniJones> That is run, not neccessarily in terminal
[08:12] <creative> kkathman, i downloaded the desktop cd, and if i try to install/boot desktop cd my screen turns off and i dont see anything
[08:12] <arshad> ok
[08:13] <RurouniJones> now, alt+F2 then "kmix"
[08:13] <RurouniJones> A window should popup with a whole bunch of sliders
[08:13] <arshad> error ----   coulsd not open location
[08:13] <kkathman> creative, ok, do you know what kind of video card you have in your system?
[08:13] <arshad> error ----   could not open location
[08:13] <creative> but i guess boot process are working,
[08:13] <creative> kkathman, radeon x1600
[08:14] <arshad> BRB                       Ruroun
[08:14] <arshad> BRB                       Ruroun
[08:14] <arshad> BRB                       Ruroun
[08:14] <arshad> BRB                       Ruroun
[08:14] <arshad> ok
[08:14] <arshad> ok
[08:14] <arshad> ok
[08:14] <bazhang> arshad, dont repeat
[08:14] <kkathman> hmm, ok... so you burned the kubuntu CD, then put it in the CD and rebooted?
[08:14] <creative> kkathman, thats right
[08:15] <kkathman> creative,  ok, and does anything come up at bootup?
[08:15] <arshad> ok
[08:16] <creative> kkathman, yes, the boot options are visible
[08:16] <arshad> sorry Bazhang
[08:16] <creative> eg. boot livecd, install, boot from hard disk etc.
[08:16] <kkathman> creative,  ok, so you see the message that its going to boot grub and all that?
[08:16] <creative> kkathman, yes
[08:16] <kkathman> creative,  do you see any "splash" at all ??
[08:17] <creative> yes, the kubuntu splash for a while in low def.
[08:17] <creative> res.
[08:18] <kkathman> creative,  ahh ok, does it switch to a text list of things booting up, or do you just see the splash and then it goes away?
[08:18] <creative> i see the splash then game over
[08:19] <creative> i dont see booting text
[08:19] <kkathman> creative,  then the screen just disappears?
[08:19] <creative> exactly
[08:20] <kkathman> creative,  ok.. I think you want to get out of the splash as soon as you see it, then watch the boot messages...try to see where its dying...I imagine there is some difficulty that the install had in configuring your card
[08:20] <kkathman> creative,  another thing you might try, is re-burning the CD just in case
[08:21] <creative> kkathman, yeah i thought that too
[08:22] <creative> kkathman, but i dont understand my card was completely supported in the previous version
[08:22] <kkathman> I am not 100% sure on the first install through, but it usually takes the lowest common denominator for a video driver, so I might suspect the CD first...its an easy try to eliminate that
[08:23] <paolo> hi
[08:23] <creative> kkathman, okay i try that, thanks
[08:23] <kkathman> creative,  unfortunately, there is a new Xorg out, and older nVidia cards as well as some ATI's aren't supported with their drivers any more
[08:24] <creative> kkathman, but isnt there a mesa driver for cases like this ?
[08:24] <kkathman> but I dont think that should have stopped you, it should have defaulted to some basic driver
[08:24] <kkathman> creative,  should be... i'e for nvidia it uses nv
[08:24] <kkathman> im not sure on ATI
[08:25] <creative> :(
[08:25] <creative> too bad
[08:26] <creative> okay ill re-burn the cd, thanks, bye
[08:27] <busfahrer> "Bluetooth is currently broken for Kubuntu Intrepid due to a last minute upgrade of the bluez stack. (Bug 280997)" <-- Can a bug like this only be fixed in a new release, or can it be fixed with a simple apt update like the ones I get in my tray every week? Also, is this bug in Ubuntu as well?
[08:27] <RurouniJones> It is an apt-get fix
[08:27] <RurouniJones> I am not sure if it affects ubuntu
[08:32] <paolo> bye
[08:37] <niall_> hi all
[08:38] <niall_> anyone here a CCNA?
[08:38] <holymoo> nite
[08:38] <niall_> hi a;;
[09:03] <ptl> cool
[09:03] <ptl> just became an ubuntero
[09:07] <dr_willis> Penguinista!
[09:13] <Assurbanipal> hi guys... kmix and multimedia buttons don;t seem to work correctly on my lg lw25 pro. anyone with an idea?
[09:18] <cresco> could someone help me
[09:18] <bazhang> cresco, need a question
[09:19] <cresco> im having problems with my atheros wireless device, it dosent find any wireless networks
[09:19] <cresco> but on windows side it does find it
[09:19] <bazhang> cresco, which card
[09:20] <bazhang> ar5007?
[09:20] <bazhang> cresco, does ifconfig show ath0
[09:20] <cresco> just a sex
[09:21] <cresco> no it dosent
[09:21] <bazhang> cresco, how many entries in ifconfig
[09:21] <cresco> 2 eth0 and lo
[09:22] <bazhang> cresco, how did you install the drivers (if you did)
[09:22] <cresco> i didnt, it showed in the restricted hardware drivers that atheros wireless is ok
[09:25] <bazhang> cresco, the hardware drivers show enabled and in use? this is for hardy or ibex
[09:26] <cresco> what u mean with hardy or ibex
[09:27] <bazhang> cresco, what version of ubuntu
[09:27] <bazhang> !version
[09:27] <cresco> kubuntu 8.10
[09:27] <bazhang> cresco, and hardware drivers show enabled and in use? try disabling then re-enabling the check box
[09:28] <cresco> it says that activated and currently in use
[09:30] <keymone> hi
[09:30] <keymone> did anybody tried to install kubuntu 8.10 from dvd/cd?
[09:31] <keymone> i have a read error and i really doubt it's because of bad cd/dvd
[09:32] <dr_willis> Most of the time  - ive seen it IS because of a bad cd/dvd/burn
[09:32] <dr_willis> assuming the md5 sums match
[09:32] <keymone> i've burned 1 cd and 2 dvd's allready
[09:32] <dr_willis> I normally install from a USB pendrive now
[09:32] <keymone> same thing on all of them
[09:34] <dr_willis> Now that ive discovered unetbootin  :) i havent used cd/dvd in the last 10 installs.. heh   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:35] <keymone> how do i install from flash drive?
[09:36] <dr_willis> unetbootin makes a 'bootable' flash drive. that works as the live cd does.
[09:36] <dr_willis> plug it in.. reboot..  boot fromusb drive.. install
[09:36] <dr_willis> and it seems to install a LOT faster for my systems
[09:37] <keymone> i doubt i can use unet - i have very tricky internet connection
[09:38] <bazhang> !usb
[09:38] <dr_willis> unetbootin. just uses the iso file you allready have downloaded.. to gerneate the usb thumbdrive stuff..
[09:38] <dr_willis> No internet needed other then to get the .iso
[09:38] <keymone> nice, thanks
[09:38] <dr_willis> i have not tested out the persistant feature of  8.10 yet.
[09:54] <dr_willis> i may test it right now.. :) BBL
[10:01] <costin> hi
[10:03] <courtjesterg> hello
[10:03] <courtjesterg> i had to reinstall i screwed the os already lol ;)
[10:04] <courtjesterg> i installed that wine next thing i know it looked like a desktop so restarted after the wine restart then it showed like a win 95 desktop again then a black screen or maybe it was one of those nivida adepts i installed
[10:05] <courtjesterg> i couldn't do anything so had to reinstall
[10:05] <courtjesterg> going to try to just install wine first and see what happens
[10:23] <Crell> Hi folks.  Does anyone have a recommendation between Cervisia tkcvs, and gvcs for cvs/svn guis?
[10:37] <kubuntu8> hello!
[10:38] <kubuntu8> can anyone tell me how to set the presentationmode of okular to fullscreen?
[10:38] <bjorn_> Hello!
[10:38] <kubuntu8> hello bjorn
[10:39] <bjorn_> Can anyone tell me how I get my wireless activated?
[10:40] <bjorn_> How I identify my card etc.
[10:42] <bazhang> bjorn_, lspci in terminal if pci card; lsusb if usb card
[10:44] <bjorn_> lspci did it thanks, : Ralink RT2500
[10:44] <bazhang> bjorn_, how many entries in ifconfig
[10:44] <bazhang> should be a ra0 or rausb0
[10:44] <Crell> How do I enable a bluetooth device (eg, mouse)?  I don't see a BT control panel, and trying to run "kbluetooth" or "bluez" from the alt-f2 dialog doesn't seem to do anything.
[10:44] <bazhang> !bluetooth
[10:45] <bjorn_> just eth0 and lo
[10:45] <Crell> Ahso.
[10:50] <bjorn_> I know that in gnome you should enable roaming, but can't find it in knetworkmanager
[11:25] <villoni> !fr
[11:32] <pdenapo> Hi, I'm using kde 3.5 on ubuntu hardy. It seems that after upgrading some packages, something changed, and all the files on my home directory are shown as icons on my desktop. I have many files there, so my desktip is now a completly mess. How may I disable this?
[11:33] <lokai> pdenapo: you didn't upgrade to kde4 did you?
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Hmm... files in /home/USER/Desktop have always shown up as icons for me..    I thought KDE4 did NOT show them by default..
[11:33] <pdenapo> no, I didnt upgrade to kde 4
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Oh wait he said HOME directory Not home/Desktop  - Hmm..
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i would check to see if Desktop became a link to /home/username or somthing similer.
[11:35] <pdenapo> it fact my Desktop directory seems to have been deleted
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> That may be an issue then...
[11:36] <shreedhar> Wanna **** with me
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[11:37] <shreedhar> What
[11:39] <shreedhar> Wanna **** with me
[11:39] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone know how to delete modelines from active xorg sessions or from all via xorg.conf or something?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> If they are in the xorg.conf file you can just edit that file.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Not sure how to remove them from a 'running x session'
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> or if thats even possible
[11:40] <OxDeadC0de> I put them in there but xorg picks up extra modelines that my lcd doesn't really support, like 800x600@60 and @61hz, but it only properly does 59hz
[11:41] <anubis> Is the desktop switcher icon a widget? + where do i find it?
[11:41] <emilsedgh> anubis: its called Pager, right click->add widgets
[11:41] <OxDeadC0de> so I set up modelines in there so it'd use 59 hz by default instead of 60hz which causes it to draw partially off screen, but I still get it trying to switch to 60hz once in a while while fullscreening wine apps
[11:41] <anubis> emilsedgh: thx mate
[11:43] <OxDeadC0de> it really sucks having to load xrandr systray icon or using xrandr from the terminal to get to a proper refresh rate so half my desktop isn't drawing off screen
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> You using DVI or VGA connection?
[11:43] <anubis> emilsedgh: mate do u happen to know how to add extra coloms .. can only add extra rows... up to 2... thats it..
[11:43] <shreedhar> **** Off
[11:43] <OxDeadC0de> nope just my lcd in my laptop w/ nvidia drivers
[11:44] <anubis> i need 4 desktops:P
[11:44] <emilsedgh> anubis: right click on pager->Configure Desktops
[11:44] <anubis> emilsedgh: mate i feel stupid lol i went into pager settings:P thx a million.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> You did try the nvidia-settings tool eh?
[11:44] <emilsedgh> anubis: np dude :)
[11:45] <shreedhar> See your girlfriend nude
[11:45] <OxDeadC0de> yea I'm a power tweaker so anything I can use I have, but I'm missing something obviously :P
[11:46] <OxDeadC0de> not in the sense that I use drugs tho... in the sense that I'll open up source code and tweak it if I have to ;)
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> OxDeadC0de:  yes.. ive never heard of anyong having those kind of issues..i wonder if you are not  going about it the wrong way.
[11:49] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis I dunno, but I'd guess (wild guess) the invertor or something is what actually gives the available modes to xorg when it asks what's available, and it gives it more than my lcd can actually support perhaps to support other lcd models and I got the cheap one? but I need to disable certain refresh rates at certain frequencies, make sure xorg never tries to use them but keeps the "right(tm)" ones
[11:49] <OxDeadC0de> I'll try google, should have done that first
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> The whole X autoconfiguring itself - stuff - has caused issues  in many people :)
[11:55] <OxDeadC0de> since I already setup the modelines for the proper frequencies in xorg.conf, I disabled edid checking with the nvidia driver, maybe this will disable all the other resolutions all together and I can add anymore I want by hand
[11:58] <waterpie> hi all
[11:59] <waterpie> a) when i said "upgrade distro", was I notified that i would be forced into kde4, and I don't remember it?
[11:59] <waterpie> b) how can I go back to kde 3.5?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> 2) reinstall
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> b) reinstall
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:00] <shreedhar> By F***ing your sister
[12:00] <lokai> yeah waterpie: I had the same problem
[12:00]  * Dr_Willis wonders when the ops will Kick shreedhar
[12:01] <lokai> waterpie: I had to reinstall from scratch
[12:01] <shreedhar> When Dr. Willis F***s his mother
[12:02] <waterpie> when we say "reinstall", we mean reboot, boot with cd, and loose everything (that is not backed up)?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Thats pretty much the definiton of reisntall to me.
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> :) windows users say 'reformat/reinstall'
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> or just learn to like kde4. and/or wait for kde3 to get in some PPA repos, or other unofficial repos.
[12:05] <cuznt> ppa?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> Unofficial personal repos
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[12:06] <waterpie> well, that is not quite a "solution", imnsho
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> so do whatever you want then.. those are your options.
[12:06] <waterpie> forcing kde4, without asking, is terrible.
[12:07] <Tm_T> waterpie: it's not forcing
[12:07] <Tm_T> waterpie: this information has been available since last spring
[12:07] <Tm_T> and been mentioned countless times
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> it was summarized here the other day.. KDE3 is basicially  reaching its end of lifespan..
[12:08] <waterpie> Tm_T, was i notified while upgrading that i will loose kde3 and will only have kde4?
[12:08] <Tm_T> waterpie: I believe so, because before upgrading ofcourse you read release notes too?
[12:09] <waterpie> well, sorry, but "widely available info" obviously didn't include me. imho, that info belongs to the do you really want to upgrade? window
[12:09] <piquadrat> Hi! I'm looking for a method to sync my Nokia 6110 Navigator (S60, 3rd) with Kontact. opensync-plugin-kdepim is not installable (bug #278747), so opensync isn't an option, apparently...
[12:10] <Tm_T> waterpie: that window should have link to release notes atleast
[12:10] <zbyszek> hi can you help me? i have kde4 adn i can hear no sound
[12:10] <Tm_T> !sound | zbyszek
[12:11] <Tm_T> bah, forget the arts part (:)
[12:11] <zbyszek> Tm_T im using kde4
[12:11] <waterpie> Tm_T, sorry, no. There is a huge qualitative diff between a) "release notes", ie: we fixed this, we added that, and b) we will totally change your DE, with no going back
[12:11] <zbyszek> there are no such an options in settings
[12:11] <Tm_T> waterpie: it wasn't change for everyone
[12:12] <waterpie> Tm_T, ok, whatever. From my point of view, I was unaware of it, and I have been hugely disappointed. I'll be looking towards other solutions from now on.
[12:12] <waterpie> Thanks everyone for your help.
[12:13] <Tm_T> waterpie: sorry to hear that
[12:13] <waterpie> bye
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> THis is Linux - do what you want.
[12:14]  * Dr_Willis recalls similer ranting when people went from 95 to Xp, to Vista, and OS9 to OS-X .. and.....
[12:14] <Tm_T> oh well
[12:14] <Tm_T> why upgrade if don't want new stuff, I wonder
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> I mean the BIG BIG BIG BIG feature of  Kubuntu 8.10 was the use of KDE4
[12:15] <Tm_T> yup and finally possibility to do that without wasting time with KDE3 too
[12:15] <Tm_T> because there's only so much developers
[12:15] <zeltak> hi guys
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> and personally.. yes.. i am NOT using kde4 at this time. :P
[12:16] <edulix> hi, how can I configure KDE$ to switch between desktops with ctrl+tab?
[12:16] <edulix> s/KDE$/KDE4/
[12:16] <zeltak> well after pretty much giving up on suspending kubuntu via close lid option...cant find no way to do it in intrepid...does anyone know of a prog that suspends via timer?
[12:17] <zeltak> thats is automaticlly put the laptop to sleep after X minutes?
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[12:17] <edulix> re
[12:17] <pingwin> ыть
[12:18] <edulix> so, where was I...how can I configure KDE4 to switch between desktops with ctrl+tab?
[12:18] <edulix> hi afiestas
[12:19] <courtjesterg> Is there any adept allications that can covert an exe file to dep file?
[12:19] <courtjesterg> there has to be one somewhere
[12:19] <lokai> !wine
[12:19] <courtjesterg> yeah i know about wine i want to covert the files
[12:20] <courtjesterg> not run a shell of windows
[12:20] <jaffrain> exit
[12:21] <courtjesterg> my main board
[12:21] <courtjesterg> http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=133&prod_no=664
[12:22] <courtjesterg> running two athon xp 2100 chips mod them at the t3 or was it the t4 slit to be duel mp chips while still acting as xp xhips
[12:22] <johannes__> hi, is there some kind of program that scans my network and shows me all  other pcs integrated into kde 4.1.2? it works with ubuntu windows xp and mac os but when I use dolphin it says there is no local workgroup or a firewall is activated, but i never installed a firewall
[12:22] <courtjesterg> i am wondering if both cpus are detected
[12:23] <courtjesterg> so far haven't found a program that can show me they are both there downloaded device manger it shows mp 22000 chip thats it
[12:23] <courtjesterg> 2200
[12:23] <znh> Hello
[12:23] <znh> Im looking for a way to install Amarok 2.0
[12:23] <shreedhar_> Hi
[12:24] <znh> I can't compile it myself, too slow computer
[12:24] <courtjesterg> Is there a site with compatible device drivers to see if i can download also what about my geforece 3 graphics card
[12:24] <shreedhar_> u contact me via remote desktop
[12:24] <courtjesterg> can you just use wine and actually download the drivers? hm
[12:31] <gui92> opa
[12:31] <gui92> hello
[12:32] <shreedhar_> Hi
[12:32] <zbyszek> can you help  me? when im using in kde4 option to eject the cdrom, it goes out and in the same time, closes
[12:33] <shreedhar_> I can surely help U
[12:33] <afiestas> iep edulix
[12:33] <aroth> @zbyszek: I have the same problem on my PC.
[12:33] <zbyszek> by the szame second question how can i install kde3 in 8.10?
[12:34] <zbyszek> in kde4 i have no soud, no printer config, problem with dvd drive, problem with network manager
[12:35] <shreedhar_> What is your host ????????
[12:39] <johannes__> hi there seems to be a firewall installed on my kubuntu 8.10 install how can I configure it?
[12:39] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis I followed your advice, used the nvidia tool, it made a new "screen" section with Option         "metamodes", so I disabled my modelines, used that with every entry modified to _60, it works now in compiz, ty, not kwin though it seems to have trouble fullscreening things, oh well
[12:39] <shreedhar_> Johannes, what is your host name ?
[12:40] <johannes__> host name?
[12:40] <shreedhar_> Yeah
[12:40] <johannes__> the user Im logged in as?
[12:40] <shreedhar_> No
[12:41] <johannes__> how can i find out, what my hostnam is?
[12:41] <johannes__> is it my pcs name?
[12:41] <shreedhar_> Ok, what is your username on your PC ?
[12:42] <johannes__> johannes
[12:42] <shreedhar_> OK wait a sec.
[12:43] <shreedhar_> did U get a query ?
[12:43] <johannes__> no
[12:43] <shreedhar_> Are U using linux ?
[12:44] <johannes__> yes, kubuntu 8.10
[12:44] <shreedhar> What is your OS ?
[12:44] <johannes__> kubuntu 8.10
[12:45] <johannes__> does anyone know how to configure the preinstalled kubuntu 8.10 firewall?
[12:46] <OxDeadC0de> !firewall
[12:46] <johannes__> thanks
[12:48] <johannes__> honestly, someone, who doesnt know how to use irc would have a hard time to find out, why he cant connect to other pcs
[12:50] <zbyszek> hi can youhelp me with this?
[12:50] <zbyszek>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_7%3a3.5.10-0ubuntu1~intrepid4_all.deb
[12:50] <zbyszek> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:50] <zbyszek> i tried to install kde3
[12:50] <zbyszek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6065524
[12:50] <zbyszek> from here
[12:50] <zbyszek> and after step "install kde3"
[12:50] <OxDeadC0de> johannes_ maybe you should submit a feature request for a popup dialog when the system is just installed to let the admin know certain details like, about the firewall
[12:51] <ptl> !kde4
[12:51] <johannes__> this is a really good idea, how can I do this?
[12:51] <JontheEchidna> zbyszek: those packages are totally unsupported
[12:51] <ptl> #kubuntu-kde4 forwards to here
[12:52] <JontheEchidna> I'd talk to the repository's maintainer for support
[12:52] <ptl> someone should update this "!kde4" definition to use #kubuntu instead of #kubuntu-kde4
[12:52] <OxDeadC0de> brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <Tallken> Guys I need to find out to which source package shall I fill a bug when the bug is in a file which belongs to "linux-libc-dev"... Can you help?
[12:54] <ccoffey> Does Kubuntu 8.10/kde4 have some sort of compiz effects on by default that I can disable. Just did a fresh install, and the screen randomly flickers at times
[12:55] <OxDeadC0de> ccoffey: afaik it uses kwin by default which does some compositing, install (via sudo apt-get install) plasmoid-toggle-compositing , switch it off?
[12:55] <cuznt> dont think so
[12:56] <Tallken> ccoffey: yes; you can disable desktop effects in preferences; or disable compositing using ALT+SHIFT+F12 ; usually that crashes my desktop the first time I do that, so you've benn warned xD
[12:56] <Ragol> thanks for the forum post regarding kde3 in intrepid
[12:57] <ccoffey> OxDeadC0de: Tallken: Ok Thanks guys
[12:57] <Ragol> I just upgraded my work machine to intrepid and noticed, that kde4 is there *sigh*
[12:57] <Tm_T> Ragol: what forumpost?
[12:57] <Ragol> need to check this method at monday
[12:58] <Ragol> Tm_T: zbyszek posted it a 10 minutes ago
[12:58] <Tm_T> Ragol: I don't follow forums, can you give exact url please?
[12:58] <Ragol> Tm_T: 14:50:28 < zbyszek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6065524
[12:58] <Tm_T> aah
[12:58] <Ragol> yep
[12:58] <Tm_T> I missed that one
[12:59] <Ragol> I don't follow forums either
[12:59] <Ragol> just have too much else to do to be able to follow every interesting forum :)
[13:02] <Tm_T> ok, that looks good
[13:02] <Ash-Fox> !openvpn
[13:02] <Tm_T> just remember that all problems caused by 3rd party cannot be supported here so that goes on your own risk
[13:03] <Ragol> Tm_T: yep, that's true and I really understand that
[13:03] <Tm_T> good (:
[13:03] <Ragol> if something will break, I just install it again :)
[13:03]  * Tm_T remembers the *tix mess
[13:03] <ccoffey> While I'm asking silly questions. is there anyway to be able to change the behaviour of the icon in the very top left of a window (the one on the title bar). Almost every Desktop I've used allows you to close a window by double clicking it (kde3, cde, windows)? Any preferences for that?
[13:03] <Ragol> Tm_T: ?
[13:03] <Tm_T> Ragol: you don't want to know
[13:04] <Ragol> okay :)
[13:04] <Ragol> I do anything so I can use Linux in my work computer, even though my boss doesn't like that very much, he's so microsoft guy, and besides, can't understand how you can administrate windows network from a linux computer ;)
[13:05] <Tm_T> kids... (;
[13:06] <Ragol> :)
[13:08] <zeltak> sleep
[13:09] <michel_> bbbonjour a tous
[13:21] <lyhana8> Hi, why do my only scim-panel look ugly ?
[13:25] <loris_> ciao
[13:27] <Reaper> Hi, I am using Kubuntu 8.10. But I can't take advantage of any of KDE 4.1 Desktop Effects | 2.4 GHZ p4 Intel. 1 gb rams. My graphics card is an internal one,internal. 100 mb memory. |
[13:27] <Reaper> Is the graphics card the issue?
[13:28] <White_Pelican> probably, is it nvidia?
[13:28] <Reaper> White_Pelican: No, as I said, internal INTEL one.
[13:28] <Reaper> Heh...most likely I think that's it, but making sure...
[13:29] <Reaper> probably I need a dual core system processor, with an atleast 256 nVidia? - White_Pelican
[13:29]  * Aelwyn is away: Ausente por el momento
[13:29] <White_Pelican> it's my understanding there are issues with old nvidia cards, so there might be with others
[13:30] <ptl> nvidia nooooooo
[13:30] <ptl> use ATI
[13:30] <Reaper> ermm....
[13:30] <Reaper> alright..
[13:30] <ptl> :P Just trolling (but I prefer ATI anyway)
[13:30] <Reaper> But as for the problems I am in atm, it's about my internal graphics card?
[13:30] <White_Pelican> I learned that the hard way ptl
[13:30] <Reaper> I mean I can't take advantage of any desktop effect...heh all will run slow.
[13:30] <Reaper> and lag
[13:31] <White_Pelican> sounds like the same issue with nvidia
[13:31] <matt____> I'm having troubles figuring out how to manage panels. I'd like to add one to the bottom of my screen, can't figure out how. Also, can I change the hidth of the panels?
[13:31] <dr_willis> KDE4 is a bit lacking in panel options..  its slowy gaining features. :)
[13:32] <matt____> dr_willis: I've realized :) But are any of those possible?
[13:32] <dr_willis> matt____,  not a clue.. I dont use kde4 much - other then to play with it.
[13:32] <dr_willis> the panel is some plasmoid so proberly can have a 2nd..
[13:32] <ptl> matt____: possible yes, easy no. There is not a configuration dialog for that as far as I know.
[13:32] <Reaper> White_Pelican: uh? I see. Well this is the first time I use KDE, KDE 4.1 was a shock for me, having these MAC OS desktop features, dash boards, a slight vista style. It's probably the best Desktop I've ever worked on.
[13:32] <matt____> ptl: So would I have to edit a config file somewhere?
[13:33] <anubis> is there a way to autohide a pannel?
[13:33] <dr_willis> heh - i recally cant stand OS-X much. :()
[13:33] <JontheEchidna> anubis: will be in KDE 4.2
[13:33] <ptl> matt____: not exactly a config file, but the plasmoid definition parameters... something more involved
[13:34] <dr_willis> I dosent work how 'i' work :)
[13:34] <anubis> JontheEchidna: what is it atm.. KDE.4.1 right?
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> yup
[13:34] <matt____> ptl: Something along the lines of gconf editor for gnome?
[13:34] <White_Pelican> I'm not tro;;ing but I think the kubuntu team should never have included 4.1x in Intrepid
[13:34] <anubis> k
[13:34] <mitsarionas> did anyone have any plasmoids break recently?
[13:34] <anubis> when is that comin out:P
[13:35] <White_Pelican> trolling*
[13:35] <anubis> ?
[13:35] <Reaper> White_Pelican: so, KDE 4.1 is not very stable yet I can say? or I'm missing something...
[13:35] <White_Pelican> 4.2 is due out at the end of January
[13:35] <White_Pelican> no you have it right on the nose Reaper
[13:35] <Reaper> aha...
[13:35] <Reaper> I see ;)
[13:35]  * JontheEchidna finds 4.1 stable
[13:35] <dr_willis> we should just wait till KDE 6.92.4.1.1/2 comes out!
[13:35] <Reaper> I just need to try it somewhere better.
[13:36] <White_Pelican> dr_willis, huh?
[13:36]  * dr_willis waits for service pack 1 for KDE 4
[13:37]  * White_Pelican would like to try kde 4.1.3 but kubuntu says no because I choose to stick to hardy
[13:37] <ptl> matt____: not exactly... something between a programming header and config files, not easy to explain, better wait to kde 4.2 to do that :)
[13:38] <ptl> White_Pelican: it was good for some, not so good for others, I think. To me, it was awesome.
[13:38] <matt____> ptl: What's the release schedule for that?
[13:38] <ptl> matt____: January, I think, but I don't know the release schedule for Kubuntu. It will surely be in Kubuntu 9.04, though.
[13:39] <matt____> ptl: Ok. But won't we be able to apt-get upgrade for it?
[13:39] <mitsarionas> ptl: are all your plasmoids functioning properly after your 4.1.3 upgrade?
[13:39] <matt____> Has anyone tried amarok beta?
[13:39] <ptl> matt____: sure you will
[13:39] <matt____> ptl: cool.
[13:39] <White_Pelican> ptl, since I have an old nvidia card, (it's considered legacy), using kde 4 requires me to throw software to hardware by having to buy a new video card
[13:40] <ptl> mitsarionas: I don't use that many plasmoids, and the only one I use outside the panel is QuickAccess.
[13:40] <ptl> mitsarionas: but yet, they work perfectly. Shouldn't they?
[13:40] <ptl> White_Pelican: not KDE4's fault, blame nvidia for that, I know the story
[13:40] <mitsarionas> ptl: dunno... notes and show desktop broke for me
[13:40] <White_Pelican> I know, ptl
[13:41] <White_Pelican> but it makes me SOL
[13:41] <mitsarionas> just right after the 4.1.3 upgrade (i think)
[13:41] <ptl> I never use notes, I prefer notecase anyway (I don't use kbasket because where I work I need to export branches to people who use windows)
[13:41] <ptl> let me try show desktop
[13:41] <ptl> it's on my panel
[13:41] <ptl> Works.
[13:41] <mitsarionas> thanx
[13:42] <ptl> On the other hand
[13:42] <mitsarionas> so  it wasn't this upgrade...
[13:42] <ptl> I don't have that default plasmoid which shows the desktop on the screen
[13:42] <ptl> I don't even notice when it disappear
[13:42] <ptl> one day it was there. The other, it wasn't.
[13:42] <ptl> but it's weird anyway
[13:42] <mitsarionas> !
[13:43] <ptl> That's why I added QuickAccess.
[13:43] <mitsarionas> quickaccess broken too here :(
[13:44] <ptl> really? What happens when you run it?
[13:45] <mitsarionas> uh, nevermind, it's working :)
[13:45] <martijn> which tool are you using for translating kde in intrepid ibex?
[13:45] <courtjesterg> Question due i actually have my video graphics working this i am wondering tryed playing a movie in dragon player but comes up no media loaded also saw the nvida x.org binary download should i download this?
[13:46] <martijn> i ask because kbabel does not seem to be in the repository anymore
[13:46] <mitsarionas> it's just that it appeared as a black circle, like the broken plasmoids
[13:47] <mitsarionas> (which are black and only have "remove unknown applet" on their context menu
[13:47] <courtjesterg> Question due i actually have my video graphics working this i am wondering tryed playing a movie in dragon player but comes up no media loaded also saw the nvida x.org binary download should i download this?
[13:47] <courtjesterg> or is it default
[13:47] <courtjesterg> software not hardware graphics
[13:48] <martijn> anyone?
[13:48] <courtjesterg> anyone? yeah can people actually read this? =)
[13:48] <anubis> I hate people with red names.. doesn't alow me to scan through the chat log to find if anyone spoke to me:P
[13:49] <ptl> courtjesterg: it's probably a thing with codecs, try to add the medibuntu repository... follow some guides on the internet for that
[13:49] <courtjesterg> thks
[13:56] <mitsarionas> has anyone noticed weird behavior when right clicking links on firefox?
[13:56] <Ash-Fox> Hello, I've been following different howtos on openvpn.net, specifically, http://openvpn.net/static.html and http://openvpn.net/howto.html#redirect - I've followed the directions stated, but for some reason, the default gateway on the client won't set to the IP address of the server on the VPN.
[13:56] <Ash-Fox> These are the configs I'm using http://pastebin.com/d7b1d3362 - Can anyone advise me?
[13:57] <lakis1982> can someone help me?? everytime i try to install something on package manager i get error: ... what should i do ???
[13:57] <lakis1982> APT Error. Context:
[13:57] <lakis1982>     Running dpkg,
[13:57] <lakis1982>     [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --configure, openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us ],
[13:57] <lakis1982>     Sup-process returned error code 1,
[13:58] <lakis1982>     Error processing openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us : subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127.
[13:58] <xie> ni hao
[13:59] <metellius> ni hao ku ai!
[13:59] <desu> lakis1982: there seems to be some problem with the package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.... it hasn't been installed correctly... and there's something preventing it from installing correctly...
[13:59] <lakis1982> and what can i do now ?
[13:59] <desu> lakis1982: you can remove it by doing sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us
[13:59] <desu> though i'd suggest trying to find out what's preventing it from installing instead....
[14:00] <placsin> hello all, anyone here knows how to remove programs from autostart in kubuntu 8.10?? I need to remove KnetworkManager
[14:00] <lakis1982> i tried this but it gives the same rror
[14:00] <desu> lakis1982: paste the entire output on rafb.net/paste
[14:01] <desu> the entire output of `sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us', that is...
[14:01] <Dragnslcr> placsin- System Settings -> Advanced -> Autostart
[14:02] <lakis1982> i psted it
[14:02] <lakis1982> so ?
[14:02] <lakis1982> i pasted it
[14:02] <desu> post the link here...
[14:02] <desu> the link to the paste, that is...
[14:03] <lakis1982> http://rafb.net/p/0lHmGi77.html
[14:03] <desu> ....
[14:04] <placsin> hey, how I can stop KnetworkManager to loading every time I'm logging on??(Network configured manually through /etc/network/interfaces)
[14:04] <lakis1982> http://rafb.net/p/mA4lih53.html
[14:04] <placsin> *from loading
[14:05] <mitsarionas> ptl: here? could you pastebin me a list of your installed packages?
[14:05] <matt____> How could I go about installing the amarok beta?
[14:05] <mitsarionas> i think there are some repos listed on kubuntu.org
[14:06] <matt____> mitsarionas: me?
[14:06] <mitsarionas> yeah
[14:06] <matt____> mitsarionas: Looking.
[14:06] <matt____> mitsarionas: Wouldn't know where they are would you?
[14:06] <lakis1982> desu?
[14:07] <desu> lakis1982: hmm... it seems that a script required by the post-remove and post-install scripts of the package is missing....
[14:07] <emma> placsin: not sure but out of curiosity when you go to system settings > advanced > autostart is it listed in there?
[14:07] <lakis1982> and how can i find it ?
[14:08] <mitsarionas> matt____: http://www.kubuntu.org/amarok2-beta2
[14:08] <dig> !wine
[14:08] <matt____> mitsarionas: What about beta3?
[14:08] <placsin> emma: no, there is only script called "gtk-qt-engine.rc.sh"
[14:08] <matt____> mitsarionas:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news
[14:09] <emma> placsin: yeah mine too. I thought maybe it would be in there.
[14:09] <desu> lakis1982: try doing a reinstall of the package that provides update-openoffice-dicts
[14:09] <mitsarionas> yeah, just saw... no repo there though... hopefully they updated the packages on the repo listed on the beta2 news page
[14:09] <mitsarionas> or they're gonna do it soon
[14:10] <matt____> mitsarionas: I believe...if you check backports and unsupported, it'll updated automatically.
[14:10] <hans_solo> hi there! i´m a kubuntu and linux noob and i accidently removed my network manager. i downloaded the knetworkmanager on my windows-pc and transferred it via usb-stick to my kubuntu-laptop. but how can i install it?#
[14:10] <lakis1982> and how can i reiinstall this package
[14:10] <lakis1982> im newbie
[14:11] <killerbyte> hello everybody
[14:11] <placsin> hm... its idea... I will just remove the packet xD
[14:11] <mitsarionas> matt____: amarok 2 beta? i don't think it's on the official repos, not even backports...
[14:12] <placsin> *package
[14:12] <matt____> mitsarionas: Could be completely wrong and mislead, but that's how I took something I've read here.
[14:12] <fawzi> hello everyone
[14:12] <fawzi> i've got  a big problem
[14:13] <matt____> mitsarionas: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-beta-3 There we go.
[14:13] <killerbyte> please can somebody tell me can you use the gui in kde to set internal disk file systems to automount?
[14:13] <fawzi> can every one help me please
[14:13] <lakis1982> desu?
[14:14] <killerbyte> fawzi, whats ur problem?
[14:14] <desu> lakis1982: try this: `sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation.postrm.tmp' and then `sudo apt-get install dictionaries-common'
[14:14] <hans_solo> anyone read my problem and is willing to help?
[14:14] <desu> lakis1982: after that is finished, do `sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation.postrm.tmp'
[14:14] <emma> placsin: There's something in /etc/xdg/autostart/ that looks relevant
[14:14] <dr_willis> hans_solo,  assuming you got the package you need..  just double click in it..
[14:15] <mitsarionas> matt____: did they just change this page? i could swear i i looked 5' ago this page and it didn't have the ppa link
[14:15] <dr_willis> hans_solo,  or 'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'
[14:15] <reggy> hi does any one knows how to install update bluez to seen in adept
[14:15] <killerbyte> hans_solo, what format is package you have?
[14:15] <reggy> ????
[14:15] <reggy> thanks
[14:15] <matt____> mitsarionas: I don't know. ;)
[14:15] <dr_willis> !bluetooth
[14:15] <developerNewbie> can someone help me find out whats wrong with my audio. I used to have sound on my kubuntu 8.10 but not there is no sound and kmix is not starting when I log in like it used to.
[14:15] <matt____> mitsarionas: I would have had to have seen it 5'
[14:15] <dr_willis> Hmm.. thats not it..
[14:15] <hans_solo> its a .gz file
[14:15] <mitsarionas> matt____: anyway, cool :D
[14:15] <dr_willis> theres some sort of bug/breakage in bluetooth and kde4. the bot has some factoid on th topic
[14:16] <dr_willis> hans_solo,  what exactly did you download then?
[14:16] <lakis1982> mv: cannot stat `/var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation.postrm': No such file or directory
[14:16] <lakis1982> desu that it gives me in command
[14:16] <hans_solo> knetworkmanager
[14:16] <matt____> mitsarionas: I supposed it is amarok-kde4 isn't it?
[14:16] <dr_willis> hans_solo,  if its a ubuntu package.. it sould be .deb not .tar.gz
[14:16] <matt____> mitsarionas: Installs alongside stable I should think.
[14:16] <killerbyte> please can somebody tell me can you use the gui in kde to set internal disk file systems to automount?
[14:17] <mitsarionas> matt____: yeah that's it
[14:17] <desu> lakis1982: err, i mean `sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.postrm.tmp' and then `sudo apt-get install dictionaries-common'
[14:17] <placsin> bye all here, emma thx for help )
[14:17] <dr_willis> killerbyte,  i normally just edit the fstab.. its not hard to learn.  There is some gui tool.. but i dont rember where/what its called.
[14:17] <dr_willis> killerbyte,  what format of filesystem?
[14:17] <matt____> mitsarionas: Looks neat, any word on stability?
[14:18] <killerbyte> dr_willis, just fat32 and ext3
[14:18] <lakis1982> something did
[14:18] <lakis1982> wanna paste it ?
[14:18] <lakis1982> plese check it
[14:18] <reggy> i already try to install bluez util in kubuntu 8.10 using apt-get but always fail
[14:18] <mitsarionas> matt___i've only tried it just a little, no problems thus far
[14:19] <dr_willis> killerbyte,    shouldent be too hard to  figure out the proper fstab entry.  these are both internal hard drives correct?
[14:19] <lakis1982> http://rafb.net/p/bFKU0v70.html
[14:19] <mitsarionas> uh, could someone who upgraded to kde 4.1.3 pastebin me his installed packages?
[14:19] <reggy> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:20] <DeviantPeer> Hi all. I'm trying Kubuntu 8.10 on an old computer with a old ATI AIW (7200) but the screen colors are all scrambled. Anyone has any idea how to solve this?
[14:21] <developerNewbie> can someone help me find out whats wrong with my audio. I used to have sound on my kubuntu 8.10 but not there is no sound and kmix is not starting when I log in like it used to.
[14:21] <developerNewbie> any commands I can try to see whats wrong?
[14:21] <desu> lakis1982: if you need openoffice.org-hyphentaion-us-en, you can reinstall it by doing 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-hyphentaion-en-us'... however, it should not prevent any other packages from being installed now...
[14:22] <killerbyte> dr_willis, yes file systems on internal hdd partitions
[14:22] <desu> developerNewbie: did you modify anything related to the sound card?
[14:22] <lakis1982> should i try install something with package manager and see if everything installs ok ?
[14:22] <developerNewbie> nope
[14:22] <desu> lakis1982: you already did... dictionaries-common is what you installed...
[14:22] <lakis1982> a ha ok
[14:22] <emma> mitsarionas: I'm in kubuntu 4.1.2. I did not know there was a 4.1.3 in kubuntu.
[14:22] <arshad> Hi all
[14:23] <desu> developerNewbie: try running `alsamixer'
[14:23] <lakis1982> and now ,, how can i install openoffice 3 ... or if i install it it will give me errors again ?
[14:23] <mitsarionas> emma: it's on backports i think
[14:23] <arshad> a small hitch in installing KDE over Ubu i.e Gnome
[14:23] <killerbyte> dr_willis, ok thank you
[14:23] <killerbyte> bye
[14:23] <desu> lakis1982: there's a howto on installing oo.o 3  somewhere on the internet, iirc... try googling...
[14:23] <emma> Won't they  update to 4.1.3 with the updates/
[14:23] <arshad> Hello
[14:23] <arshad> can nayone sove this
[14:23] <arshad> ????
[14:23] <developerNewbie> desu, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[14:23] <arshad> can nayone solve this
[14:24] <mitsarionas> dunno... maybe sometime later
[14:24] <lakis1982> ok
[14:24] <lakis1982> thank you very much
[14:24] <desu> developerNewbie: try checking if the sound card is plugged in properly?
[14:24] <lakis1982> can i ask something last
[14:24] <developerNewbie> desu, its a laptop and It works in windows
[14:24] <desu> hmm...
[14:24] <lakis1982> how can isee what sound engine do i use on my system sound ... ?
[14:25] <desu> developerNewbie: then i have no idea...
[14:25] <lakis1982> and which engine should i use for best?
[14:25] <arshad> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[14:25] <arshad>   python-qt4-dbus libpoppler3 libpoppler-qt2 libsearchclient0
[14:25] <arshad>   libstrigihtmlgui0 strigi-daemon
[14:25] <arshad> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? n
[14:25] <arshad> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[14:25] <arshad> root@arshad-desktop:/home/arshad#
[14:25] <arshad> ?
[14:25] <emma> arshad: you may want to use the !pastebin if you have many lines to paste.
[14:25] <arshad> this is the pron in terminal
[14:25] <dr_willis> or trim down the error report lines. :)
[14:25] <desu> did someone say... pr0n?
[14:25] <dr_willis> or both!
[14:25] <mitsarionas> could anyone pastebin me the output of his dpkg -l|awk '{print $2}'    ?
[14:26] <arshad> sorry prob
[14:26] <emma> mitsarionas: or her.
[14:26] <mitsarionas> :) or her
[14:26] <dr_willis> i would do a  update, upgrade, then try to install them again  arshad
[14:26] <desu> lakis1982: it shouldn't matter unless you're getting bad sound quality...
[14:26] <arshad> ok
[14:26] <arshad> with update mgr first??
[14:26] <arshad> dr_wills
[14:27] <lakis1982> that why i am asking
[14:27] <lakis1982> because it sounds a little weird
[14:27] <arshad> actually i had formatted my drive n removed ubuntu
[14:27] <arshad> than reinstalled
[14:27] <lakis1982> when i have the volume down i can hear a small noise coming out from my rear speakers or my 5.1 surround system
[14:27] <arshad> should that b the prob,,,,,   what d i do
[14:28] <emma> mitsarionas: here you go -- http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/d4e1e5091
[14:28] <lakis1982> that happens if i have in kmix the pcm option very loud
[14:28] <desu> lakis1982: is that noise present even in windows?
[14:28] <mitsarionas> emma: thanx :)
[14:28] <lakis1982> no
[14:28] <emma> you're welcome :)
[14:28] <lakis1982> not in windows
[14:28] <emma> I have 4.1.2 though.
[14:28] <desu> if you have it very loud, of course you'll have some noise coming from the speakers... but it shouldn't happen on low volume
[14:29] <lakis1982> ok
[14:29] <lakis1982> and how do i check my sound engine
[14:29] <desu> lakis1982: what sound card are you using?
[14:29] <arshad> Dr_Willis
[14:29] <arshad> ??
[14:29] <arshad> ??
[14:29] <lakis1982> is it alsa , pulseaudio or something else?
[14:29] <arshad> ?
[14:29] <desu> the problem is not sound engine... i think it might be the drivers...
[14:29] <lakis1982> soundblaste 5.1
[14:29] <dr_willis> hmmmm?
[14:30] <lakis1982> creative 5.1 soundblaster live bulk
[14:30] <dr_willis> gnome uses pulse, kde uses just alsa by default i think
[14:31] <emma> Yes I don't think pulse is in kubuntu hardy. Not sure if it is in intrepid.
[14:31] <emma> Definitely not turned on if it is.
[14:31] <lakis1982> ok
[14:32] <desu> kde uses the phonon engine, iirc...
[14:32] <dr_willis> Gotta love the creative names...
[14:32] <reggy> kdebluetooth dont work ??? help
[14:32] <dr_willis> reggy,  yep. its a known issue it seems.
[14:33] <keymone> i tried to make bootable flash drive with unetbootin
[14:33] <keymone> but it still requires internet connection
[14:33] <keymone> although i have full dvd iso downloaded
[14:33] <desu> !bluetooth
[14:34] <desu> hmm.... anywhjere i can find out more about the bluetooth issue?
[14:34] <dr_willis> requires for what exactly keymone ?
[14:34] <desu> *anywhere
[14:34] <reggy> it's there another apps beside kdebluetooth that work in kubuntu 8.10
[14:34] <dr_willis> The bot had some info/factoid on the kde bluetooth issue.. but i dont rember it called..
[14:34] <dr_willis> somthing got updated at the last moment and aprently broke somthing else. :(
[14:34] <ujjal> can i know how to connect gtalk through  knverstion
[14:34] <desu> reggy: it works percetly through gnome's bluetooth applet... you can install it via apt
[14:34] <ujjal> konverstion
[14:35] <reggy> thanks
[14:35] <keymone> dr_willis: requires to specify mirror and tries to install from internet
[14:35] <desu> ujjal: select jabber as the protocl
[14:35] <johnficca> some of the system tray icons look vary bad is there a fix for this ???
[14:35] <desu> johnficca: install a different icon set :P
[14:35] <ujjal> thanks desu let me try
[14:36] <dr_willis> keymone,  never noticed to be honest with ya..  It wouldent make much sence that it requires a network connection..   it would make sence it tries to get latest updates..
[14:36] <johnficca> desu: there is no diferants when I change them
[14:37] <courtjesterg> ok i installed wine when i went to go click on the .exe file i came to a blank black screen then restarted notice now themusic at start up cuts out and the screen sometimes have a black glitch every so often
[14:37] <keymone> dr_willis: well it's in installation procedure.. there are few options - default, help, install, console install, expert install and expert console install
[14:37] <desu> johnficca: as in, the icons still remain the same or the icons change but quality remains same?
[14:38] <johnficca> yeah the quality is bad
[14:38] <dr_willis> keymone,  what was this on? I dont rember seeing those options.. alt-cd? desktop cd?
[14:38] <courtjesterg> ok i installed wine when i went to go click on the .exe file i came to a blank black screen then restarted notice now themusic at start up cuts out and the screen sometimes have a black glitch every so often
[14:38] <mitsarionas> emma: success!  i'd been missing kdeplasma-addons for some reason... thanx :)
[14:38] <keymone> dr_willis: in unetbootin i selected this iso: kubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso and told it to write to usb flash drive
[14:38] <courtjesterg> still can't run the exe file with out coming to that black screen
[14:39] <emma> mitsarionas: oh that's great :)
[14:39] <Kovert> is there a place for xawtv help?
[14:39] <dr_willis> dvd? Hmm.. i never used the dvd only the desktop cd/alternative cd./.
[14:39] <arshad> Dr_Wills can u PLzz reaeat the solution
[14:39] <dr_willis> Testing out the Usb-startupdisk feature of  8.10 now. :) it has persistant change feature. :)
[14:39] <dr_willis> arshad,  what was the question? i forget.
[14:39] <arshad> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[14:39] <courtjesterg> ok i installed wine when i went to go click on the .exe file i came to a blank black screen then restarted notice now themusic at start up cuts out and the screen sometimes have a black glitch every so often
[14:39] <arshad>   python-qt4-dbus libpoppler3 libpoppler-qt2 libsearchclient0
[14:39] <arshad>   libstrigihtmlgui0 strigi-daemon
[14:39] <arshad> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? n
[14:39] <arshad> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[14:39] <arshad> root@arshad-desktop:/home/arshad#
[14:40] <courtjesterg> still can't run the exe file with out coming to that black screen
[14:40] <dr_willis> arshad,  sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade..  and try again.. or  golly.. just hit Y instead of N. :)
[14:40] <Kovert> lol
[14:40] <courtjesterg> they should have a webpage where everyone can say these files must be loaded with different options with this os
[14:40] <arshad> what after    sudo apt-get update "..................."
[14:41] <Kovert> courtjesterg: there is.....
[14:41] <Kovert> somewhere
[14:41] <arshad> what after    sudo apt-get update kubuntu-desktop
[14:41] <Kovert> :-)
[14:41] <arshad> what after    sudo apt-get update "..................."
[14:41] <arshad> what after    sudo apt-get update kubuntu-desktop
[14:41] <courtjesterg> what is sudo apt?
[14:41] <Kaya_Saouka> If I upgraded to kubuntu from ubuntu using apt-get install kde-desktop, is it possible to go back to just ubuntu by simply typing apt-get purge kde-desktop, or will it just corrupt everything?
[14:41] <dr_willis> apt-get basics...
[14:41] <dr_willis> !apt
[14:42] <Kovert> what are people using to watch tv on there computers software wise?
[14:42] <andy__> howdy
[14:42] <dr_willis> Kovert,  i used to use MythTV :)
[14:42] <Kovert> tvtime was a bust
[14:42] <emma> Kovert: I try to watch cspan when i can.
[14:42] <desu> Kaya_Saouka: it should not touch anything else.... also, you can still go back by selecting gnome at the login screen :P
[14:42]  * andy__ is away: Gone away for now
[14:42] <Kovert> dr_willis: used to?
[14:42] <courtjesterg> i am using kubuntu
[14:42]  * andy__ is back.
[14:42] <dr_willis> Kovert,  i dont have cable any more.. so no need.
[14:42] <Kovert> dr_willis: did you like it?
[14:43] <arshad> hope i wont hav a prob with unauthenticated prog
[14:43] <arshad> root@arshad-desktop:/home/arshad# sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:43] <arshad> Reading package lists... Done
[14:43] <arshad> Building dependency tree
[14:43] <arshad> Reading state information... Done
[14:43] <arshad> The following packages have been kept back:
[14:43] <Kaya_Saouka> Desu: I realise I can go back by using that, but it appears to have changed the connection manager to Knetworkmanager on Gnome aswell as KDE, so when I get rid of it, will it change back automatically, or will I need to download the standard manager for gnome again?
[14:43] <arshad>   poppler-utils
[14:43] <arshad> The following packages will be upgraded:
[14:43] <arshad>   libqt4-core
[14:44] <dr_willis> Kovert,  it does a very good job.. it can even record/zap comercials/convert to avi automatically :)
[14:44] <bazhang> !enter
[14:44] <arshad> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[14:44] <arshad> Need to get 7482B of archives.
[14:44] <developerNewbie> I am trying to use module-assistant but I get an error saying that I am not root. I didnt used to get this problem, how do I make myself root?
[14:44] <arshad> After this operation, 5779kB disk space will be freed.
[14:44] <arshad> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[14:44] <arshad> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[14:44] <dr_willis> arshad,   some day you REALLY NEED TO LEARN to stop flooding...
[14:44] <arshad>   libqt4-core
[14:44] <arshad> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? n
[14:44] <arshad> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[14:44] <arshad> root@arshad-desktop:/home/arshad#
[14:44] <arshad> sorry for  along msg
[14:44] <arshad> does unauthenticated package does any harm to my sys
[14:44] <arshad> Dr_Wills
[14:44] <bazhang> arshad, paste.ubuntu.com
[14:44] <arshad> oh am sorry
[14:44] <desu> Kaya_Saouka: it's still there... so you should not have to download it again...
[14:44] <dr_willis> proberly not.
[14:44] <dr_willis> :)
[14:44] <bazhang> arshad, dont paste that here
[14:44] <emma> developerNewbie: try su ?
[14:45] <dr_willis> it means your gpg or whatever key is proberly out of date.
[14:45] <dr_willis> or its some unofficial repo.
[14:45] <lakis1982> do u know superkaramba ??
[14:45] <arshad> :-(
[14:45] <desu> Kaya_Saouka: however, i dont know how easy/difficult switching between the network management GUIs will be...
[14:45] <dr_willis> its just a warning...
[14:45] <lakis1982> i try to install it folowing everyinstruction and it cant install .....
[14:45] <DreadKnight> hello; anyone having expecience with sound recording from microphone in intrepid? like what settings and software i should make.. ?
[14:45] <lakis1982> is there an easiest way ?
[14:45] <Kaya_Saouka> desu: I have everything backed up, so I guess I'll just try and see what happens..
[14:45] <bazhang> lakis1982, get it from repos
[14:45] <Kaya_Saouka> Thanks
[14:45] <dr_willis> with kde4 isent superkaramba a little - unneeded. :)
[14:46] <bazhang> !info superkaramba
[14:46] <developerNewbie> emma, su: authentication failure
[14:46] <cense5> hello, i have a mouse problem, cannot klick two mousebuttons at same time... any idea
[14:46] <bazhang> developerNewbie, dont use su
[14:46] <Kovert> myth-tv going im .. still no katapult for 8.1?
[14:46] <bazhang> developerNewbie, use sudo
[14:46] <DreadKnight> Kovert: there will be something called quick-sand soon, much better :P
[14:47] <DreadKnight> Kovert: will be based on krunner.
[14:47] <estan> anyone had this problem with fixed width fonts in firefox after upgrading to intrepid; http://dose.se/fixed.png ?
[14:47] <developerNewbie> Thanks
[14:47] <estan> nvidia issue?
[14:47] <lakis1982> it cant find it
[14:47] <lakis1982> do i need to add some repos?
[14:47] <desu> cense5: if you're trying to click left and right mouse buttons together, it'lkl result in middle click
[14:47] <bazhang> lakis1982, what command did you use
[14:47]  * DreadKnight ~ how can i record sound?
[14:47]  * desu ~ use a sound recorder
[14:47] <lakis1982> m
[14:47] <lakis1982> tar zxvf superkaramba-0.39.tar.gz
[14:47] <lakis1982> cd superkaramba-0.39
[14:47] <lakis1982> ./configure
[14:47] <lakis1982> make
[14:47] <lakis1982> sudo makeinstall
[14:48] <bazhang> lakis1982, no
[14:48] <lakis1982> this commands
[14:48] <desu> lakis1982: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[14:48] <bazhang> lakis1982, get from repos
[14:48] <estan> hm. changing to FreeMono in firefox helped. weird.
[14:48] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[14:48] <cense5> @desu how can i turn this off
[14:48] <courtjesterg> what the heck does packages have to do with my problem and the since that some adept need to be isntalled for specific user needs when we have no idea which ones they are for our purpose or need!
[14:48] <developerNewbie> how can I log in as root?
[14:48] <DreadKnight> cense5: you twitter maniac! :D
[14:48] <bazhang> developerNewbie, you dont want to
[14:49] <bazhang> developerNewbie, that is a very bad idea
[14:49] <Kovert> thanks on the katapult replacement
[14:49] <cense5> ???
[14:49] <courtjesterg> i am getting a black screen when using wine with an .exe program i want to use
[14:49] <DreadKnight> Kovert: np
[14:49] <bazhang> courtjesterg, check the appdb if that will work
[14:49] <bazhang> !appdb
[14:49] <DreadKnight> !record
[14:49] <DreadKnight> !sound record
[14:49] <bazhang> courtjesterg, wine help in #winehq
[14:49] <DreadKnight> !audio recording
[14:49] <DreadKnight> heh
[14:50] <Kovert> DreadKnight: audacity
[14:50] <Kovert> check my spelling
[14:50] <bazhang> !info audacity
[14:50] <DreadKnight> Kovert: i am trying it atm but can't seem to configure it the right way... any help? :P
[14:50] <DreadKnight> like the input  /  output devices..
[14:50] <estan> hm. can i turn off the automatic generation of <a> links for a single URL?
[14:50] <DreadKnight> i am a big noob xD
[14:50] <Kovert> DreadKnight: Dont understand your question
[14:50] <cense5> twitter maniac ? why ? :)
[14:51] <arshad> Dr_Wills i hav  done  without authentication
[14:51] <emma> developerNewbie: It is not advised that people go into root in a persistent way. But if you really feel that you need to do that you could try: sudo su
[14:51] <DreadKnight> cense5: you are using twitter like syntax for replying; start typing and use tab for autocompletion xD
[14:51] <arshad> KDE is loading
[14:51] <estan> i have a svn co http://foo command in a <pre> that is don't want to be turned into a link.
[14:51] <bazhang> emma, that is very bad advice
[14:51] <estan> s/is/i/
[14:51] <Kovert> Dread not int eh repros
[14:51] <BluesKaj> can someone in north america post his/her sources.list for intrepid , mine is badly corrupted and needs editing . I'm unable to login to kubuntu due to the fact that kdm and kubuntu-desktop were removed by mistake.
[14:51] <emma> bazhang: how come?
[14:51] <bazhang> developerNewbie, use sudo -i if you must
[14:52] <estan> oh damn. sorry wrong channel.
[14:52] <DreadKnight> Kovert: well, edit/setting.. and what should i configure out input/output stuff? can't get it right..
[14:52] <bazhang> emma, dont need root for ubuntu; sudo -i for a root shell (limited time)
[14:52] <Kaya_Saouka> Tried to remove Kubuntu to go back to ubuntu, by using apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop, but it's had no effect, how do I remove it?
[14:52] <Kovert> DreadKnight: never wondered about it seems to be based on alsa mixer
[14:52] <bazhang> !puregnome | Kaya_Saouka
[14:53] <DreadKnight> Kovert: yeah..
[14:53] <emma> bazhang: I'll make a note of that in case anyone else wants to do it.
[14:53] <Kaya_Saouka> Thanks
[14:53] <bazhang> np
[14:53] <Kovert> brb
[14:53] <emma> bazhang: I found a computer that someone left to be thrown away so I took it and I've been using it to explore other distros. I put slackware on it, so I found that you can become root in other ways.
[14:54] <bazhang> emma, that is slackware; many distros use su but ubuntu does not
[14:54] <cense5> thanks anyway
[14:54] <bazhang> ie fedora, suse etc
[14:55] <desu> bazhang: sudo is not distro specific :P
[14:55] <desu> it's just that htere's no entry by default in the sudoers file
[14:55] <emma> bazhang: What's the rationale in case people ask me?
[14:55] <bazhang> desu, true, though with ubuntu it is the 'ubuntu way' :)
[14:55] <bazhang> !sudo
[14:55] <bazhang> emma, ^^
[14:56] <desu> bazhang: yep :)
[14:57] <developerNewbie> still no sound is there anything else I can try?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> developerNewbie, have you setup kmix yet ...I don't know what you've tried cuz i just got here.
[15:00] <zbyszek> hi i have another seriuos problem
[15:00] <zbyszek> i tried to boot from alternate 8.04
[15:00] <zbyszek> and the installer asks me for a cdrom driver/.....
[15:00] <Kovert> dr_willis: gald YOU used mythtv :-)
[15:01] <Kovert> now I can go there and get it working
[15:01] <developerNewbie> kmix opens, the volumes are up on pcm and master, nothing is muted, soundcard used to work on linux and still works in windows.
[15:03] <reggy> how to mount bluetooth device thanks
[15:03] <DreadKnight> developerNewbie: kmix in intrepid seems to be fucking stupid....
[15:03] <DreadKnight> :/
[15:03] <developerNewbie> amarok: xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers
[15:03] <DreadKnight> sound recording used to work for me no headaches...
[15:04] <emma> bazhang: on the !sudo link it says to not use sudo -i
[15:04] <bazhang> emma, right
[15:04] <bazhang> emma, I said only if you must
[15:04] <bazhang> !noroot
[15:04] <emma> So pretty much the official ubuntu policy is always just use sudo
[15:04] <bazhang> yup
[15:06] <a_c_m> humm.... anyone know why my webcam would work in cheese, but not in skype or Camorama ?
[15:06] <emma> bazhang: if you start a root shell using one of the ways that's not recommended and then, while in # you do su <user>  to become a non-root-user, has the root shell closed?
[15:07] <bazhang> emma, first exit the root shell
[15:07] <bazhang> emma, you need to very careful with even sudo -i
[15:07] <bazhang> or gksudo/kdesu nautilus/konqueror
[15:08] <emma> bazhang: yes I see what happened there. I can see your point.
[15:08] <bazhang> it can seriously bork your system
[15:08] <emma> bazhang: doing one of the non-recommended ways to gain a # prompt, you now have opened a root shell. Just switching back to your normal user with: su <normaluser> opens another shell but does not close the root shell.
[15:08] <Kovert> how do i get to the "services page" as oppsed to the services kde page?
[15:08] <emma> Many people will not realise or remember to exit the shells they have created. I bet.
[15:09] <bazhang> emma, just dont enable the root account
[15:09] <bazhang> its much much safer that way
[15:10] <johannes__> !nvidia
[15:10] <tom_> hello
[15:11] <emma> There needs to be a better communication of the rationale for things like this or people who are full of the 'linux spirit' might feel like it's a bit 'do as I say not what you like'
[15:11] <bazhang> perhaps
[15:11] <bazhang> but most newer users just want a system that works
[15:11] <emma> Yeah.
[15:11] <bazhang> the linux spirit folks most likely are older hands who know su
[15:12] <emma> I will try to promote the ideas on the link in !sudo. I am trying to get more people to use ubuntu.
[15:12] <Kovert> how can i see a list of running services
[15:14] <emma> bazhang: I understand where you are coming from especially since you are coming at it from a support angle, largely to novice users. I have an interest in growing the ubuntu marketshare. That means not only making new users happy but hanging on to them as they learn about the rest of linux.
[15:15] <tom_> i did something stupid  (not the 1st time) I am running kubuntu 8.10 kde4 (of course) and i selected and confirmed in sys settings the menu setting for menu shadows etc   what config file does this reside in or how to return default desktop setting for kde4 back to default from command line
[15:15] <Kovert> Kovert: you can install burn to see whats running
[15:16] <Kovert> Kovert: uoi lasy dog bum not burn
[15:17] <xiasyad> im considering installing kubuntu inside windows, will that make it run slower than if i installed it regularly?
[15:17] <bazhang> SyriX, a bit yes
[15:17] <SyriX> ahh okay
[15:17] <bazhang> its more of a demo
[15:18] <bazhang> the dual boot install is nothing to worry about
[15:18] <SyriX> but it will still have all the same features right?
[15:18] <bazhang> SyriX, likely, though a tad slower; not sure about compiz
[15:18] <emma> bazhang: what about usb ports?
[15:19] <bazhang> emma, with wubi?
[15:19] <SyriX> ah koay bazhang
[15:19] <emma> Yeah
[15:19] <bazhang> should be fine
[15:19] <bazhang> SyriX, you might want to try virtualbox before you go for wubi
[15:19] <SyriX> mkay
[15:19] <bazhang> SyriX, then if you like do the full dual boot install with windows
[15:19] <Illusioneer> possibly stupid question, what is the library "kcm_konqhtml" part of?  i got it when looking at the plugins menu
[15:19] <emma> I have had some people tell me that with virtual machines you may not have access to your USB ports.
[15:20] <tom_> now the thing is it boots fine   so how do you reset reset system settings back to default from the command line
[15:20] <Kovert> anyone know how to start mysql
[15:20] <Roey> what does it imply when gcc complains "ULONG_MAX undeclared"
[15:20] <Roey> ?
[15:20] <bazhang> emma, that is the vbox-ose in the repos
[15:21] <SyriX> is it possible (with a regular install) to make windows able to read the kubuntu hdd?
[15:21] <courtjesterg> notice in the adept the hardware drivers after you open it up says no hardware drivers are installed is ti broke or am i running  my computer like a mircle
[15:22] <mitsarionas> SyriX: afaik you need an ext2 driver
[15:22] <SyriX> okay, is that easily done?
[15:22] <Illusioneer> error says "The shared library kcm_konqhtml was not found"
[15:23] <mitsarionas> SyriX: i think the page is www.fs-driver.org
[15:23] <SyriX> thanks :)
[15:23] <mitsarionas> you just run the setup thing...
[15:23] <mitsarionas> and assign letters to partitions
[15:24] <courtjesterg> i was told at wine to ask how do i config my video graphics been to display
[15:24] <SyriX> okay, gonna burn the cd now :)
[15:24] <mitsarionas> have fun :)
[15:25] <courtjesterg> i got this error when i opened up x.org nivida adept:[15:26] <courtjesterg> >
[15:28] <mitsarionas> courtjesterg: if you're trying to install the nvidia drivers, envy-ng is an easy way to do so
[15:29] <courtjesterg> ok i'll search the adept and the net thanks
[15:30] <courtjesterg> its not in the adept
[15:30] <pucko-> Anyone else having problem accessing usb cameras since kde 4.1.3 update? (it worked fine with 4.1.2)
[15:31] <mitsarionas> courtjesterg: uh, sorry... it's envyng (without the -)
[15:31] <mitsarionas> there's envyng-core and two guis, -gtk and -qt
[15:32] <emma> pucko-: how are you getting the kde4.1.3 update? I don't see any updates and I just did a fresh install of kubuntu intrepid.
[15:33] <pucko-> emma, I think I got it from the backports repository
[15:33] <emma> Hm. I wonder if I should add that to my sources.list
[15:33] <pucko-> not if you want to connect an usb camera :)
[15:34] <anubis_> Wts the command to see my connection details? commands ect..
[15:34] <anubis_> i mean ip ect
[15:34] <bazhang> anubis_, connections for what
[15:34] <emma> anubis_: connection details? you mean like ifconfig?
[15:35] <bazhang> ifconfig
[15:35] <mitsarionas> pucko-: just installed cheese, seems quite buggy, though last time i used it was on hardy
[15:35] <anubis_> yeah thats what i was
[15:35] <anubis_> thx  :D
[15:35] <emma> no problem
[15:35] <courtjesterg> i look the gtk and qt up they talk about file sharing not video cards and such i believe it is my video card when i use wine and the go to instal with the .exe i come to a black screen? SInce i am using wine am i suppose to install the directx drivers and such which would lose all its purpose with not using windows really
[15:36] <Ash-Fox> Hello, I've been following different howtos on openvpn.net, specifically, http://openvpn.net/static.html and http://openvpn.net/howto.html#redirect - I've followed the directions stated, but for some reason, the default gateway on the client won't set to the IP address of the server on the VPN.
[15:36] <Ash-Fox> These are the configs I'm using http://pastebin.com/d509e0c02 - Can anyone advise me?
[15:37] <courtjesterg> found on the interent
[15:37] <Roey> Ash-Fox:  you sound like one of those artists on deviantart
[15:37] <Ash-Fox> Roey, uh, okay/
[15:38] <HappySmileMan> Hey probably gonna switch backto kubuntu today, is there a way to get the trunk builds of KDE4.2 installed? Or at least a way to use the Betas when they're ready?
[15:38] <HappySmileMan> Goggling only finds stuff about Hardy
[15:39] <Pliskin> hello, does someone know why there isn't powerdevil when installing KDE4-neon ?
[15:39] <HappySmileMan> googling*
[15:39] <emma> HappySmileMan: perhaps adding the backports line to your sources.list
[15:39] <Tm_T> HappySmileMan: no betas released yet
[15:39] <Pliskin> HappySmileMan : Project-Neon ?
[15:39] <emma> seems like some people in here have been able to update to 4.1.3
[15:40] <HappySmileMan> I know not yet, but when Beta1 is released I'd like to try it, should be released soon
[15:40] <HappySmileMan> By the end of this month
[15:41] <Pliskin> kubuntu devs always package the betas :)
[15:42] <emma> Do users of Kubuntu have access to newer software than users of Ubuntu?
[15:42] <HappySmileMan> Ok cool, time to abandon Mandriva and go back to Kubuntu, dunno why but I always hate the package managers on other distros
[15:47] <Pliskin> emma : no, you will have to add the ppa repo to have the beta I guess
[15:48] <HappySmileMan> Oh wait... There's no NVidia driver for my card yet for Intrepid... Maybe I'll wait
[15:49] <courtjesterg> with this Download of Envy which one am i suppose to download i use kubuntu but understand the relationship between ubuntu they have core gtk and qt i sun it off my harddrive
[15:50] <zeltak> did you find anything regrading power-devil?
[15:51] <Tm_T> !envy | courtjesterg
[15:51] <Tm_T> FYI
[15:52] <starenka> Hi! anybody fancy help migrate my system from on hdd to another?
[15:53] <starenka> i just though it wou;d be easy as copying the data, but f.e as the second hdd is mounted and in /dev it starts copying those files too :)
[15:53] <bazhang> !cloning | starenka
[15:55] <starenka> bazhang: well, but it only replicates packages, how about settings (not speaking about /home which i have on other partition)
[16:06] <starenka> ohkay 'dd' should be my friend i guess
[16:07] <bazhang> yeah that is the best option
[16:07] <Ash-Fox> I keep rereading this, http://openvpn.net/howto.html#redirect - but, I cannot see what I have done wrong with my configs, http://pastebin.com/d509e0c02 connections just are not routing through the VPN by default - any ideas?
[16:15] <prateek> !automate
[16:18] <CyD> starenka: if you don't want it copying /dev, boot into a livecd so your filesystem isn't live
[16:18] <starenka> my cdrom is broken ;)
[16:18] <CyD> in the livecd, you'd again have the option of using gparted to do partition moves starenka
[16:18] <CyD> oh .. :)
[16:18] <CyD> bummer
[16:18] <starenka> well i think mounting / somewhere else as ro
[16:19] <starenka> and then copy it with dd ?
[16:19] <starenka> what would you say?
[16:20] <CyD> starenka: dunno, tricky
[16:20] <starenka> oh i cant use dd tho, the partition is not the same size... rsync?
[16:21] <CyD> starenka: another quick idea.. get a bootable flash drive
[16:21] <CyD> knoppix or such
[16:21] <CyD> starenka: you could always dd the entire drive, then resize partitions later with gparted :)
[16:21] <CyD> that'd be kinda nice cause you could dd the mbr
[16:22] <starenka> yep, but.... the new hdd is partitioned different way
[16:22] <CyD> just 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb'
[16:22] <CyD> yea, spose.. way different, not just bigger partitions?
[16:22] <CyD> you're sure making it difficult on yourself :)
[16:22] <starenka> well see
[16:22] <starenka> gimme a sec
[16:24] <starenka> http://pastebin.com/m2474c8a8
[16:24] <starenka> the 1st one is the source one the 2nd one the target one
[16:24] <starenka> i got
[16:24] <starenka> "/ /home /swap /data"
[16:25] <starenka> but the difference is in sizes and also primary / extended things as you see
[16:27] <CyD> yea
[16:27] <CyD> well, cp -a, omitting things like /dev, is going to be better than dd of course. probly as good as rsync,
[16:28] <CyD> the super easiest way would of course be fresh install :)
[16:28] <starenka> rly?
[16:28] <CyD> imo
[16:28] <starenka> i got shitloads of stuff configured different way
[16:28] <CyD> moving the data like /home is easy
[16:28] <CyD> well at least user configs will be safe in /home
[16:29] <CyD> i dunno it really depends of course
[16:29] <starenka> yep, but if i omit /dev
[16:29] <starenka> will the system then work?
[16:29] <CyD> actually i'd try with just coping the whole /
[16:29] <CyD> if it doesn't work, you haven't lost anything but ~10 mins
[16:29] <starenka> but how about other mounted things and symlinks?
[16:30] <starenka> it would copy those too, wouldnt it?
[16:30] <starenka> not good then
[16:30] <CyD> you'll have to modify your fstab on the new drive and run grub-install like we said yesterday
[16:30] <CyD> but i can't think of any other roadblocks
[16:30] <starenka> i tried copying /
[16:30] <CyD> cp -a?
[16:31] <CyD> that preserves permissions, symlinks etc
[16:31] <starenka> but i canceled when in started to copy /dev/sda6 which is the new hdd partition :)))
[16:31] <CyD> oh heheh :)
[16:31] <starenka> when it ;)
[16:31] <starenka> sooo
[16:31] <CyD> yea again too bad you can't use livecd
[16:31] <starenka> :)))
[16:31] <CyD> that is really the best way
[16:31] <CyD> :(
[16:31] <starenka> in what way it would live cd help?
[16:32] <starenka> (i can manage to steal my gfriends' cdrom)
[16:32] <CyD> starenka: well then you're not worrrying about copying /dev on a running filesystem and such
[16:32] <CyD> and running into taht prob of copying /dev/sda6 onto itself :)
[16:32] <CyD> basically if i had a livecd i could pack up my /dev/sda1 and unpack it wherever whenever to have my system back
[16:32] <starenka> well whats the difference... i need to mount those too on livecd, dont i?
[16:33] <CyD> yes, but you won't be copying the livecd filesystem
[16:33] <starenka> ooooooh
[16:33] <starenka> lol
[16:33] <starenka> silly me
[16:33] <starenka> :)))
[16:33] <starenka> ohkay
[16:33] <CyD> you'll be doing cp -a /media/sda2 /media/sdb2
[16:33] <CyD> etc :)
[16:33] <starenka> lol
[16:33] <starenka> easy one
[16:33] <starenka> will go for it
[16:33] <CyD> gl!
[16:34] <starenka> thanx a bunch, mate
[16:34] <CyD> it's quite a job you've set out, you'll be better for it in the end
[16:34] <CyD> learnin lots etc
[16:34] <CyD> yea np
[16:34] <ubuntu_> hi
[16:34] <starenka> one other thing
[16:34] <starenka> well, we will see... cya
[16:35] <starenka> CyD: cp -a means copy archive... what archive means? preserving atributes ?
[16:36] <ubuntu_> nejaky slovak??..
[16:36] <starenka> !cz | ubuntu_:
[16:37] <starenka> ubuntu_: kdyztak pis pm, pokud ti nevadi cestina
[16:37] <starenka> !sk | ubuntu_:
[16:37] <carrerasg> anyone can tell me where kdeinit4 gets it's list of executables to launch?  Removed nm-applet long ago and it still trys to launch it.
[16:38] <starenka> !kde4 | carrerasg
[16:38] <slow-motion> hi
[16:38] <carrerasg> thks starenka
[16:39] <starenka> np
[16:39] <inaety> how do i enable hardware acceleration in 8.10?
[16:39] <inaety> !nvidia
[16:42] <kiba> hi
[16:42] <kiba> hi
[16:43] <kiba> network is not working on the latest kernel version I have
[16:43] <kiba> 2.6.7.4 I think
[16:43] <kiba> I have no idea why but older version works fine
[16:44] <kiba> 2.6.24-16-generic
[16:45] <yago> does anyone has a problem with Ubuntu 8.10, When do I try open a video file, the terminal blocks
[16:45] <yago> can anyone help me?
[16:45] <kiba> that kernel I am using is fine
[16:46] <kiba> but later version is not fine
[16:49] <mopped> I need to install Windows to run some games, How can I create a partition within kubuntu?
[16:50] <draik> mopped: QTParted
[16:50] <ubuntu_> hi
[16:51] <mopped> ok, ill give it a whirl
[16:51] <ubuntu_> need help
[16:51] <kiba> can anybody help me with my hardware issue
[16:51] <kiba> ?
[16:51] <kiba> I have insprion 530
[16:51] <draik> !ask | ubuntu_
[16:51] <kiba> but the latest kernel image for some reason doesn't like my network
[16:51] <gael> use GParted
[16:51] <ubuntu_> why i dont have games?
[16:51] <draik> ubuntu_: What games?
[16:52] <MarcoPau> hello, I would like to set up alt-f1/2/3/4 keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops on kde4, as I used to have previously on kde3. can anybody help?
[16:52] <ubuntu_> the games that are in linux..
[16:52] <draik> MarcoPau: Go into your System Settings and choose Keyboard and Mouse. The 3rd tab on the side will help you out with your keyboard shortcuts
[16:52] <emma> I think what happens is that ubuntu is set as the default host name for people's instalations, and so they just retype it for the user name, and then when they click on some irc client and it drops them into 'ubuntu server' it gives them the default nick ubuntu to start with, which is being used, so it goes to ubuntu_
[16:53] <draik> ubuntu_: Did you install the package for the games?
[16:54] <ubuntu_> how can i do this:
[16:54] <kiba> ubuntu_: what games do you want?
[16:54] <draik> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install kdegames
[16:54] <MarcoPau> thank you draik
[16:54] <ubuntu_> what is it?..
[16:54] <draik> MarcoPau: No problem. ;)
[16:55] <kiba> ubuntu_: new to linux?
[16:55] <ubuntu_> yes
[16:55] <MarcoPau> draik: just hacking around with kde4... need to get used it :)
[16:55] <kiba> hmm
[16:55] <kiba> so nobody with expertise on kernel images
[16:55] <draik> MarcoPau: I'm new to KDE4 as well.
[16:58] <mopped> Ok, I'm trying out gparted, and I'm guessing I need to unmount before I partition
[16:58] <mopped> wouldnt unmounting my current HD have horrific effects? :P
[16:59] <heret1c> hello.
[16:59] <heret1c>  My external cd/dvd writer malfunctions with error "Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0". What may be the cause? Worked fine in 8.04.
[16:59] <emma> mopped: you should not be using gparted on a running system, use it from in a live CD
[16:59] <draik> mopped: If you're not using the drive, you can unmount and do it. If you're on it, I would advise using a Live CD
[16:59] <starenka> CyD: hullo, it's starenka from livCD ;)
[17:00] <starenka> CyD: just one stupid question... i made "sudo cp -a /media/oldroot/ /media/newroot/" but it started to copy files to /media/newroot/oldroot... :))
[17:00] <starenka> CyD: help, the old noob, pls :))
[17:02] <heret1c> Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0
[17:02] <HappySmileMan> starenka: Yeah it'll do that since it's copying the folder oldroot, not just the contents
[17:02] <kiba> heyyyyyyyyyyyy
[17:02] <kiba> anybody can help with my kernel image issue?
[17:02] <HappySmileMan> I think cp -a /media/oldroot/* /media/newroot would work
[17:03] <starenka> HappySmileMan: so i do cp /smthng/*.* /somegre
[17:03] <starenka> hehe
[17:03] <starenka> ok same idea here :)) thanx
[17:04] <starenka> HappySmileMan: thanx. works like a charm
[17:04] <HappySmileMan> np
[17:04]  * heret1c waves his dvd i/o error in despair
[17:05] <starenka> heret1c: you at least have a semifunctional.... i've just stolen my griend's one :))
[17:05] <kiba> why nobody is willing to help me?
[17:06] <kiba> am I...obnixious?
[17:06] <starenka> you stink
[17:06] <heret1c> starenka: hah. it worked a charm in 8.04.
[17:06] <draik> kiba: heret1c: You'll get help when someone knows your answer.
[17:07] <heret1c> draik: ymmv.
[17:08] <heret1c> draik: provided someone happens to glance at the screen in the right time, yes. .)
[17:11] <heret1c> nasty character, that "peer".
[17:12] <starenka> heret1c: "netslipt" too :))
[17:12] <starenka> *split
[17:12] <starenka> CyD: damn, mate the copying will take hours :(
[17:13] <heret1c> starenka: censorship by entropy. 8)
[17:13] <starenka> heret1c: hehe
[17:14]  * heret1c waves his dvd i/o error in despair (again)
[17:15] <draik> heret1c: After doing a Google search with your error message... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726656
[17:17] <emma> Id like to have a serious opinion about the importance of how installing firefox installs gnome libs in kubuntu. Is that something that bothers any one else, should it not bother me?
[17:18] <heret1c> drauck. did cjeck www before coming here, mind. .)
[17:19] <Pliskin> emma : it installs gnome libs in intrepid o_O ?
[17:19] <HappySmileMan> emma: Bothers me too
[17:19] <HappySmileMan> Well I haven't done it, since I'm on Mandriva right now, but iot WILL bother me
[17:19] <bazhang> http://dot.kde.org/1143137575/1143152383/
[17:19] <bazhang> firefox-qt
[17:20] <HappySmileMan> Yeah but that's never gotten in any way usable
[17:20] <emma> Pliskin: yes it does. If you install firefox, by default it will install the recommended packages, and among those are a ton of GNOME libs.
[17:20] <Pliskin> then, the ubuntu MOTOs are definitely evil, or they don't know gnome is not the only existing DE
[17:21] <Pliskin> emma : oh, ok, but you can configure apt to install just the required packages I believe
[17:21] <emma> Pliskin: no let's not go that far. They are good and talented people, seriously don't disparage them, and it's not like every single one of them is in charge of firefox.
[17:21] <Pliskin> yeah, I was wrong
[17:21] <heret1c> draik: so putting "all_generic_ide=1" in menu.list should fix it?
[17:21] <emma> Pliskin: hardly anyone is going to know about that. How can ubuntu think that the typical user has to use sudo but the same typical user is going to know how to use a man page to find an esoteric option in aptitude?
[17:22] <draik> heret1c: I do not know. That is what I found online. It's answer.
[17:22] <Pliskin> emma : they talk about it in the install page (or the release notes)
[17:22] <Pliskin> it's a linux recomandation
[17:22] <Pliskin> and ubuntu always respect linux conventions
[17:22] <HappySmileMan> No updates to firefox-qt source in over 2 months :(
[17:22] <Pliskin> (sorry for my english)
[17:23] <emma> But worse, when I did: sudo aptitude -R install firefox, it did install firefox seemingly without so many gnome libs, but it looks funny and then you get gtk errors about how a file is missing, and you get errors from libbonoboui
[17:23] <Copelia> !fr
[17:24] <emma> There's nothing wrong with his English :)
[17:24] <Pliskin> HappySmileMan : yeah, it was a joke, like it was for kecko 4 years ago
[17:24] <emma> Is there any hope that we could get a version of Firefox for KDE 4 ?
[17:24] <HappySmileMan> Oh wauit
[17:24] <HappySmileMan> Last change was "merge with mozilla-central"
[17:24] <HappySmileMan> Qt support is now available from mozilla-central
[17:25] <HappySmileMan> According to some googling
[17:26] <lovre> hi all
[17:26] <lovre> i just installed kubuntu 8.10, and i dont have any sound. There is a sound at the login, but it is cut off and nothing is heard anymore. ...? what can i do?
[17:26] <emma> bazhang: the comments on the page you linked to are from 2006 and 2007
[17:27] <bazhang> emma, is this a support issue?
[17:27] <bazhang> or more of a chat issue?
[17:28] <emma> bazhang: support issue. How do we get firefox to work in kubuntu without filling our kubuntu with GNOME cruft
[17:28] <bazhang> emma, ff works fine in kde
[17:28] <emma> bazhang: did you install it yourself?
[17:28] <HappySmileMan> emma: Well apparently you can build FF from source with experimental QT support
[17:29] <HappySmileMan> SAomeone could probably package the latest one, but it's probably still really unstable
[17:29] <Pliskin> HappySmileMan : you mean XulRunner was ported or is it the same than before ?
[17:30] <emma> Does kubuntu need libbonoboui-2.so.0 ?
[17:30] <HappySmileMan> Not sure, as far as I know it's the same as mozilla-qt that was built for testing earlier this year, but hopefully it's a bit more stable since then
[17:30] <Pliskin> no, it's a gtk dep
[17:30] <emma> because now every time i start Firefox there is an error message from that package
[17:31] <Pliskin> but maybe firefox need it
[17:31] <emma> I think maybe KDE should just make their own web browser that works better than FireFox.
[17:31] <HappySmileMan> Anyway time to go install Kubuntu, bye
[17:32] <HappySmileMan> emma: Konqueror?
[17:32] <emma> HappySmileMan: doesn't seem to work as consistently well as firefox as a web browser.
[17:32] <Guest80812> anyone know how to setup a smb printer in kubuntu 8.10?
[17:32] <HappySmileMan> Yeha I agree, but then again, a web browser isn't their primary concern, they spent most of their time on the desktop and other apps
[17:33] <Copelia> !fr
[17:33] <lovre> hi all
[17:34] <Pliskin> emma : with the webkit kpart, it will be better I guess
[17:34] <lovre> just installed kubuntu 8.10, and i have no sound, except startup and shutdown sounds... what can i do?
[17:35] <emma> lovre: have you installed the codecs and kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[17:35] <heret1c> emma> there is one.
[17:35] <emma> heret1c: what's it called?
[17:36] <lovre> emma: i installed something, but not sure.. how do i do what you just said?
[17:37] <emma> lovre: at the prompt: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:37] <heret1c> emma> Firefox version 3.0.3
[17:37] <lovre> emma: it wasnt installed. do i need to logout
[17:38] <emma> heret1c: how do we get that on kubuntu, compile from source?
[17:38] <emma> lovre: no.
[17:38] <lovre> emma: still no sound
[17:38] <emma> lovre: wait for it to finish installing and then I will help you get the w32codecs you need to listen to some audio.
[17:38] <lovre> emma: i installed w32codecs...
[17:38] <emma> lovre: do you use a 32 bit or 64 bit .. hm.
[17:38] <lovre> emma: 32
[17:39] <emma> So you already got the w32codecs from medibuntu or some other source?
[17:40] <emma> lovre: what audio are you trying to hear? When you open amarok are you able to hear the welcome from Matthias Etrich?
[17:40] <lovre> emma: medibuntu i guess, followed this: http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
[17:40] <lovre> emma: i cant hear the welcome :(
[17:40] <lovre> emma: it seems to play but i dont hear
[17:40] <emma> Hm.
[17:40] <rav> hello. i've been trying intrepid out, and i can't get my webcam to work. it worked well under hardy, using gspca. i tried installing gspca using module-assistant, but i can't compile the module.
[17:41] <emma> lovre: but you did have the audio at startup and shut down?
[17:42] <lovre> emma: yes
[17:43] <lovre> emma: i will try to logout /login and see if anything changes, be right back
[17:44] <francesca> ciao
[17:44] <emma> that was mighty quick
[17:45] <lovre> emma: still no sound
[17:47] <rav> does someone have bluetooth running under intrepid?
[17:47] <PhilRod> just upgraded to intrepid, and firefox (actually all GTK apps I think) says: "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries. Aborted". Any ideas? Google doesn't turn up much
[17:47] <ric> hello?
[17:48] <rav> PhilRod: a danger of upgrading. you probably have both qt3 and qt4 installed
[17:48] <PhilRod> rav: indeed I do. I was hoping they'd be put in different places so as not to get in each other's way
[17:49] <lovre> emma: i have solved it with help from: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097945.0
[17:49] <rav> PhilRod: i'd try uninstalling firefox and reinstalling it from intrepid repositories
[17:49] <lovre> emma: thank you for your time :)
[17:49] <PhilRod> rav: thanks, I'll try that
[17:49] <rav> PhilRod: I have KDE 3 programs running under KDE4, but I did a fresh intrepid install, and then installed the KDE3 apps
[17:50] <emma> lovre: oh that's great.
[17:50] <lovre> emma: thx :D
[17:51] <PhilRod> rav: yeah, kde3 apps run fine (I'm using konversation right now) - I guess it's something with gtk-qt-engine that's causing the issue
[17:52] <PhilRod> rav: anyway, thanks for the hint
[17:53] <anubis> is there a way to save my widget settings?
[17:54] <Saltire> !kde5
[17:55] <BrAndon22> excuse me, i just downloaded kubuntu 8.10 with kde4. may anyone suggest me a working way to get rid of the crappy gtk interface and have a good one?
[17:56] <HappySmileMan> The installer for Kubuntu isn't doing anything
[17:57] <HappySmileMan> It gets to where I select keyboard layout and then does nothing at all, I've waited like 5 minutes
[17:57] <BrAndon22> i mean, being gtk-based, amule looks like a windown 95 application under kubuntu with kde 4
[17:57] <rav> BrAndon22: System settings> Appeareance> GTK styles
[17:58] <rav> HappySmileMan: have you checked the CD for integrity?
[17:58] <HappySmileMan> rav: Yes, says it's fine
[17:59] <heret1c> BrAndon22: use system settings > appearance > gtk-wozzit to set "use kde style".
[17:59] <HappySmileMan> Seems to be using my external drive for some reason, I'll try disconnect that and install
[18:00] <rav> HappySmileMan: when i have trouble installing, i set the install options to safe graphics mode and acpi=off
[18:00] <BrAndon22> thnx rav n happystyleman.. just tried, but no result :(
[18:01] <HappySmileMan> You mean heret1c? I had problems of my own, heret1c was the one who suggested that :P
[18:01] <rav> HappySmileMan: F4 and F6 at the main screen
[18:02] <HappySmileMan> Yeha will try that now, disconnecting drive didn't help (not that I really expected it to
[18:02] <rav> BrAndon22: you probably have to restart all GTK applications
[18:03] <jappdev> I recently upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, and I now need to change my KDE3/QT3 theme, how can I do this in KDE4?
[18:03] <christian_> hey guys
[18:03] <rav> jappdev: System Settings>Appearance
[18:04] <christian_> did an update to 8.10 and have a small problem now
[18:04] <jappdev> rav: that will not change the kde3/qt3 apps apperance, only kde4/qt4
[18:05] <ptl> christian_: lucky you, many have updated to 8.10 and have lots of them :)
[18:05] <heret1c> christian_: welcome to the club. 8)
[18:05] <christian_> when i want to start a game in fullscreen with e.g 800x600 (defaultres 1280x1024) x server crashes
[18:05] <lovre> does anyone know why when i click NewDeviceNotifier to eject cd, it opens the tray and immediatelly closes it. doesnt give me time to take cd out...?
[18:05] <christian_> same here also
[18:05] <rav> jappdev: hmm... that's an interesting question
[18:05] <scopecreep> lovre:  thats the new dexterity check built in
[18:06] <christian_> lol
[18:06] <jappdev> i've read in other forums that you can launch the old config using 'kcmshell style' but that kcm module is not installed
[18:06] <rav> jappdev: i'd guess it'd have to be editing the config file
[18:06] <lovre> scopecreep: lol
[18:07] <christian_> btw, did updating work for you guys ? was buggy for me
[18:08] <scopecreep> i couldnt update from hardy to intrepid, but i just reinstalled cause my data is on a seperate partition
[18:08] <jappdev> rav: i don't mind poking around in vim at the config file, but i don't know where it is
[18:10] <lovre> KNetworkManager says that i am disconnected even tho i am connected, so firefox is starting up in offline mode. How do i fix this??
[18:12] <scopecreep> lovre: in firefox, file menu, work online
[18:13] <scopecreep> and i never got network manager to play nice with static ips
[18:14] <johannes__> this is awkward: using dolphin I can see my network printer and another pc (workgroup: workgroup) but my openfiler fileserver wont appear (though I can connect to it, when I type in its IP )
[18:15] <lovre> scopecreep: i know, but i cba to click on that everytime i start firefox.
[18:15] <scopecreep> thats odd indeed, im not sure.  backup your firefox profile and delete it maybe?
[18:17] <NielsE> hi, I´ve installed kubuntu-desktop, but now the knetworkmanager AND the networkmanager-applet are starting when I open kde, how can I solve this?
[18:18] <Edulix> hi
[18:18] <thomas__> hi ich heiss tom
[18:18] <scopecreep> so what part of network manager actually works as intended?
[18:19] <Edulix> I've got both gnash and flashplugin-nonfree, how I tell my system to use one or the other by default? dpkg-reconfigure or something like that?
[18:20] <Winolzz> hello guys . i would like to upgrade from my 8.04 to 8.10 . i already tried the  apt-get command, i have downloaded 239 MB of updates , but it looks like i'm still in 8.04 .
[18:20] <thomas__> was ist
[18:21] <thomas__> was ist
[18:22] <NielsE> scopecreep: everything works, but I have 2 network-manager applets, one from gnome, and one from kde
[18:22] <thomas__> warum verlassen
[18:22] <lovre> how do i make kubuntu remember what applications were active on shutdown so it can run them on startup?
[18:23] <NewbieUbuntu> hi
[18:23] <thomas__> hi
[18:23] <dylan_> hi
[18:23] <_ykram> hi
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> i am really shit my kubuntu and i don't know how
[18:24] <_ykram> you could put an entry in rc.local
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> so any sugestions are ok
[18:24] <dylan_> ? i am french ^
[18:24] <thomas__> geht mein pc hat was ich musik ohr
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> this is my problem when  i enter sudo samething the firs line is this
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> sudo: unable to resolve host alex
[18:25] <thomas__> nur dusch
[18:25] <NewbieUbuntu> i am using sony laptop and i need to apply one row to my sound config file
[18:25] <thomas__> bitte
[18:25] <NewbieUbuntu> and when i write
[18:25] <NewbieUbuntu> sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/sound ->it show me empty  file
[18:26] <NewbieUbuntu> can someone tell me how to fix this , because i don't want to reinstall everything again
[18:26] <thomas__> was  ist los
[18:26] <_ykram> unable to resolve .. edit your /etc/hosts
[18:27] <thomas__> ich bin ein bischen laute musik
[18:28] <NewbieUbuntu> i tryid with kate to open this file
[18:28] <NewbieUbuntu> it is empty
[18:29] <thomas__> dauna hat wiell wasser
[18:29] <scribbles> what do I do if my second hard drive isn't showing up in Dolphin? It was at one point and now its gone?
[18:30] <thomas__> ich 3 pc
[18:31] <Nillerz> Hello #kubuntu, I have an issue...
[18:31] <_ykram> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/sound .. alsaconf is not present so just make file yourself
[18:31] <Nillerz> I tried out the k desktop environment and didn't like it  so I purged all k software
[18:32] <christian_> mhh..folderview plasmoid is missing in my 8.10 installation..did i miss something ?
[18:32] <Nillerz> now it still shows like, remnants of k stuff all over, for example this text should appear black to me but it's not, it's light grey
[18:32] <Nillerz> Then there's the bar underneath the top bar on any window manager, should match GTK stuff or something but it's blue no matter what window manager I use
[18:32] <Nillerz> The theme I had on kde was blue before I uninstallde it
[18:32] <Nillerz> Is there any way to fix this?
[18:32] <NewbieUbuntu> _ykram what i must enter in this file
[18:33] <_ykram> alias snd-card-0 snd-mydriver emu10k1 options snd-emu10k1 index=0
[18:33] <_ykram> you must know name of mydriver
[18:35] <NewbieUbuntu> i have no idea
[18:38] <Nillerz> any thoughts?
[18:38] <Nillerz> I mean, kde is completely removed, not a single bit of k software is left.
[18:39] <Nillerz> so it has to have edited a universal file  that is used by all DMs
[18:40] <lovre> icons in my tray are kind of messed up, they dont show properly... did i understand there is problem with nvidia cards, can this be associated?
[18:41] <dennister> can anyone help me change my greeter/login screen from gdm to kdm?
[18:42] <dennister> i did try it a coupla weeks ago, and screwed itall up nicely
[18:42] <_ykram> anyone loaded kubuntu on aspire one
[18:42] <Tm_T> _ykram: I believe someone has
[18:43] <_ykram> just wondering if it went smooth as i will be trying it tonight :-)
[18:43] <Tm_T> then ask it, don't ask to ask (;)
[18:44] <dennister> can anyone help me change my greeter/login screen from gdm to kdm?
[18:46] <NielsE> how can I accomplisch that nm-applet does not start when I log into kde?
[18:52] <christian_> lovre: i also had this buggy icons
[18:52] <OxDeadC0de> dennister: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[18:52] <lovre> christian_: how did you solve it
[18:52] <OxDeadC0de> nielse: I personally uninstalled nm-applet for gnome
[18:53] <christian_> lovre: upgrade to kde 4.1.3 or disabling desktop effects
[18:53] <lovre> christian_: ill try it, thank you
[18:53] <lovre> christian_: how do i disable desktop effects ... :\
[18:53] <christian_> lovre: system-settings
[18:54] <lovre> christian_: ok thank you
[18:54] <dennister> OxDeadC0de: ty...will try
[18:54] <christian_> lovre: thelogout and login again
[18:55] <mc> hi! I'm on 8.10 I followed the steps in the ubuntu wiki but my function keys are still not working
[18:55] <mc> any ideas?
[18:55] <lovre> christian_: ok, brb
[18:56] <christian_> mc:keytouch
[18:57] <lovre> christian_: it seems ok now, i hope it stays that way. Thank you :)
[18:57] <christian_> lovre: no prob :-)
[18:59] <thomas__> hi
[19:00] <lovre> why doesnt Knetworkmanager detect my wired connection? It says disconnected. So when i run firefox it is in offline mode... any ideas?
[19:00] <thomas__> ich war bei mama
[19:00] <thomas__> ich bin aber nicht so lange da
[19:01] <White_Pelican> sorry thomas__ I don't speak German
[19:01] <mister-tea> !de
[19:01] <NielsE> OxDeadC0de: yeah, but I still want to use gnome also...
[19:02] <OxDeadC0de> nielse: i use the kde version of the applet in gnome, works fine in both
[19:02] <lovre> does dragon player support subtitles? and if yes, how do i add one to a movie?
[19:03] <arshad> Hi all
[19:03] <NielsE> OxDeadC0de: but I dont think knetworkmanager has vpn support, I think I´m going to remove the knetworkmanager and use nm-applet in kde
[19:03] <arshad> after installing Kubuntu ubuntu8.04 has gone slow
[19:04] <arshad> i had changed the settings of the processor settings option provided in the start
[19:04] <arshad> any suggestions or help Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[19:05] <OxDeadC0de> nielse there's a kde version of the nm-applet called network-manager-kde , I use that, not knetworkmanager, it's a kde version of the frontend to network manager and it works in kde and gnome just the same as the gnome one
[19:06] <mc> christian_: keytouch does not support the macbook keyboard
[19:06] <NielsE> yeah, just found out that its network-manager-kde :P, I did not know of it existance, so I assumed it was knetworkmanager I was running
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> nielse but I had a problem with the gnome version not rendering properly before, which is why I switched, but after upgrading to 4.1.3 I probably don't have that problem now
[19:06] <mc> hi! I'm on 8.10 I followed the steps in the ubuntu wiki but my function keys are still not working. any ideas?
[19:06] <lovre> christian_: are you still here
[19:06] <NielsE> 4.1.3 is in the backport right?
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> yea
[19:07] <NielsE> I think I´m going to try that one too, can you recommend it?
[19:07] <OxDeadC0de> well, honestly, plasma crashed on me a couple times in 4.1.3 (automatically restarted itself but still annoying), and it didn't in 4.1.2, but some other little bugs are gone I guess
[19:08] <trappist> I put icons on my taskbar and kde4 doesn't save them - if I restart, they're all gone.  am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?
[19:08] <OxDeadC0de> systray being one, it works - still has problems if you move it around or detach it from the panel tho
[19:08] <OxDeadC0de> how did you restart trappist? did you logout properly?
[19:08] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: no, just rebooted from the command line, is that the problem?
[19:09] <fouad> #kubuntu-fr
[19:09] <OxDeadC0de> if you don't loggout properly things won't get the "shutdown" signal in the way they want to in order to save their settings
[19:09] <lovre> what nvidia driver is safe to install? 177.80?
[19:09] <fouad> i like go to frenche room
[19:09] <fouad> please
[19:09] <OxDeadC0de> I'm using 177.80
[19:09] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: any problems?
[19:10] <christian_> lovre:yeah
[19:10] <fouad> qui parle francai ici
[19:10] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: makes sense, thanks
[19:10] <mister-tea> !fr
[19:10] <fouad> merci
[19:10] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: not real ones, had one problem with needing to define metamodes in my xorg.conf so it uses the right refresh rate when fullscreening certain 800x600 programs
[19:10] <lovre>  i have some bad stuff going on, my screen shows stuff that was previously shown, i guess pixels from card that are not overwritten yet..
[19:11] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: but that's my lcd's fault I think
[19:11] <christian_> mc: you can create your own kybaord files with keytouch
[19:11] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: how do i upgrade to 177.80?
[19:11] <starenka> anyone fancy help installing grub?
[19:11] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: i used the restriced hardware manager to install
[19:12] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: logging out did the trick, thanks.  next, I'm using knetworkmanager to connect to my wireless.  works fine, but it doesn't automatically connect when I log in.  you know of a way to do that?
[19:12] <bopferman> I am having a problem with a fresh install of Intrepid.  I login but when KDE is loading it stops on the harddrive icon and goes no further.  Any Ideas? Thanks!
[19:12] <mc> christian_: how?
[19:12] <OxDeadC0de> trappist dunno, since I use network-manager-kde, which does log me onto wifi automatically
[19:12] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: I'll check that out, thanks
[19:12] <busfahrer> bopferman: It can stay on that icon for quite a while, did you wait long enough?
[19:13] <bopferman> It has been on that icon for 15 minutes now
[19:13] <lovre> where is restricted hardware manager?
[19:14] <psyco> Anyone know how to make the clock 12 hours instead of 24 hours?
[19:14] <psyco> kubuntu 8.10***
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: open konsole type: jocket-kde
[19:14] <xp-killer> how do i modif my smileys in kmess?
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> er, lover: jockey-kde sry
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> I seem to be having trouble typing..
[19:14] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: it's the same thing - or, knetworkmanager is the executable in the network-manager-kde package
[19:15] <christian_> mc: there is a utility callres keytouch-editor
[19:15] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: there is only version 173 and version 177 available here. I dont get any more choices
[19:15] <OxDeadC0de> 177 is 177.80..
[19:16] <OxDeadC0de> they don't maintain every version sry :/
[19:16] <HappySmileMan> Can someone tell me how to install firefox without pulling in all the Gnome libs?
[19:16] <OxDeadC0de> but this way is a lot easier to install them and keep them working after kernel upgrades
[19:16] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: when i go to Leave, dialog appears but the background is not clear, it is full of parts of windows that i opened earlier. Can i fix this bug?
[19:16] <xp-killer> how do i modif my smileys in kmess?
[19:17] <mc> christian_: keytouch-editor refuses to start up, it says it has not found any input devices
[19:17] <OxDeadC0de> lovre don't know I don't write video card drivers :/
[19:17] <lovre> does dragon player support subtitles? i cant find a way to use them
[19:17] <beta-guy> how do I manually request an IP address for eth0?
[19:17] <mc> ah nevermind
[19:17] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: do you have your wireless device in /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:17] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: lol, ok, thank you very much for your time
[19:17] <quentin> Can anyone tell me how to change (permanently) $TERM and why it is set by default to linux when the most obvious value would be xterm?
[19:17] <bopferman> I am not sure why my login stops at the harddrive icon
[19:17] <HappySmileMan> lovre: Yes dragoin player support subtitles
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> It's in one of the menus, hold on can't remember which
[19:18] <beta-guy> U sed to have knetworkmanager but accedentally had it removed now I can't get on internet :(
[19:18] <beta-guy> Used = I used
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> lovre: Oh it's in settings menu
[19:18] <bastones> Hi. I'm downloading Kubuntu right now and I'm wondering if I use NDISWrapper (if I need to use it) the same way I'd do so for Ubuntu?
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> bastones: Yes it should work the exact same
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> trappist I just installed ndiswrapper, installed the win32 driver version of b43 (Have problems with b43 and performance), then started network manager, setup my connection - in the last screen up connection setup it has an "autoconnect" checkbox
[19:19] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl, when using kde4 on kubuntu my metakeys stopped working(volume up/down, key shortcuts which include the WIN key...)
[19:20] <s0undt3ch> how can I get that to work?
[19:20] <lovre> HappySmileMan: Settings->Subtitles is disabled.. gray button, cannot click on it... ?
[19:20] <bastones> I'm wondering if my Belkin F5D7050 will work natively on Kubuntu? I heard certain versions of the Belkin adapter work natively on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[19:20] <christian_> s0undt3ch: keytouch
[19:20] <HappySmileMan> lovre: I dunno then, working for me right now, but I'm using an OGM file, maybe it's not fully supported for all media types yet?
[19:20] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: ah!  found the autoconnect checkbox, thanks
[19:21] <s0undt3ch> christian_: is that a command?
[19:21] <s0undt3ch> package?»
[19:21] <christian_> s0undt3ch: package
[19:21] <lovre> HappySmileMan: ok, ty
[19:21] <s0undt3ch> christian_: k
[19:21] <johannes__> hi where is the file I can write commands into that should be performed at boot up? and where can I tell my pc not to interpret a touch one the touchpad as a left klick?
[19:21] <bopferman> does anyone know why kde would freeze on the harddrive icon while login?
[19:21] <mc> christian_: keytouch-editor does not work for me either
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> christian_: will that also solve my menu app shortcuts which include the windows meta key?
[19:22] <bastones> I'm wondering if my Belkin F5D7050 will work natively on Kubuntu? I heard certain versions of the Belkin adapter work natively on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[19:22] <mc> it says i should press one of the fn keys, but when I do so it does not react
[19:22] <mister-tea> !wifi | bastones
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> christian_: I had all this working when on kde4
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> err
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> kde3
[19:23] <bastones> I think my adapter is ver. 3 since the IC ID starts with 3
[19:23] <christian_> mc: when you press one of you fn keys, do you have entries in you /var/log/messages file ?
[19:23] <christian_> so, tail -f /var/log/messages and the press a fn key
[19:23] <acee12345> ﻿im trying to install raop-play but it needs the package libfltk1.1c102 . i tried apt-get it said  libfltk1.1 replaced that package but when i try to install the .deb it keeps looking for libfltk1.1c102. any ideas?
[19:23] <mister-tea> bastones check the link above and go to the supported hardware list
[19:23] <bastones> will do
[19:24] <lovre> how do i edit file associations?
[19:24] <christian_> lovre: system-settings
[19:24] <mc> christian_: no
[19:24] <lovre> christian_: stupid me, ty
[19:24] <christian_> mc:mhhh...
[19:26] <bastones> mister-tea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBelkin#USB it says here that some F5D7050 adapters work dependent on ver. I'm unsure how I can check what ver. adapter I have?
[19:26] <christian_> mc: start xev from a console and see if you get your keycod from it
[19:27] <mc> christian_: yeah get it
[19:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am tired of all the stupid changes done from one version to the next.  If something is not broken, don't fix it! I can't eject my ipod cleanly unless I sudo, what gives?  Anybody seen this problem before?
[19:28] <christian_> mc: then try to ue those in keytouch-editor
[19:28] <Saftpackl> hi all
[19:28] <mc> christian_: where in the editor?
[19:28] <bastones> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBelkin#USB it says here that some F5D7050 adapters work dependent on ver. I'm unsure how I can check what ver. adapter I have?
[19:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> when I try to eject the ipod, it unmounts it but doesn't cleanly eject it.  I get: eject: unable to open `/dev/sdd2'
[19:28] <mc> the editor  halts at the step where I should press one of the fn keys
[19:29] <mister-tea> bastones sudo lshw
[19:29] <mister-tea> type that on treminal
[19:29] <mister-tea> terminal
[19:29] <bastones> while adapter is plugged in right?
[19:30] <mister-tea> yes
[19:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> How do I cleanly eject an iPod?
[19:30] <bastones> and it'll give me what?
[19:30] <mister-tea> hardware info
[19:30] <bastones> ok
[19:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> bastones, you can also do lsusb and look at the manufacturing device webpage and find out what version you have by the device id.
[19:31] <christian_> mc: when you try to use a already existing profile and configure that to your needs ?
[19:33] <Saftpackl> i am looking for a way to attach icons to removable disks in kde4, so i can better see which one of them i click on. is there an option in systemsettings or anywhere else, where i can define those icons?
[19:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> How can I change a permission on a command that already has rwxr-xr-x to work with normal users?
[19:34] <trappist> in kde4 is there a way to have numlock enabled automatically when I start up?  I could do it in kde3 but can't find that setting now
[19:34] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo:
[19:35] <s0undt3ch> oops, sorry CoJaBo
[19:35] <CoJaBo> lol
[19:35] <johannes__> i want to run a command at startup where can I write it down?
[19:36] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo: you don't know by any chance on how to enable Win+F(an app shortcut) to work on kde4 right?
[19:36] <Saftpackl> trappist: yes, if you go to the system settings -> mouse & keyboard you can set it on
[19:36] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo: that shortcut is defined, but seems that the Win meta key is simply ignored
[19:36] <CoJaBo> KDE calls the Windows key "Super", IIRC.
[19:37] <trappist> Saftpackl: ah, thanks
[19:37] <Saftpackl> trappist: np
[19:37] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo: ok, fine by me, how to get Super to be recognied?
[19:38] <s0undt3ch> worked on kde3
[19:39] <CoJaBo> I think its just a box to check, or press the key combo. Not in Linux right now, so I can't check..
[19:39] <trappist> Saftpackl: that only seems to have mouse stuff, and keyboard shortcuts, with nothing about numlock
[19:39] <courtjesterg> NICKSERV
[19:39] <courtjesterg> -NICKSERV
[19:39] <Saftpackl> trappist: hmm, have you updated to the latest version of kde4?
[19:40] <courtjesterg> Wheres courtney and brad now that i rem way back when it came to me
[19:40] <trappist> Saftpackl: I've updated to the latest available packages, if that's what you mean - I haven't like gone to kde.org and built from source
[19:41] <Saftpackl> trappist: no, didnt mean that, i havent done that, either :)
[19:41] <Saftpackl> trappist: well, thats weird, i got a tab "keyboard" and there i can choose Numlock on
[19:42] <villoni> !fr
[19:43] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: you're on kde4?
[19:43] <xp-killer> how do i modif my smileys in kmess?
[19:44] <xp-killer> how do i modif my shortcut keyboard that display the smileys in kmess?
[19:44] <s0undt3ch> arrrrg, although shortcuts have been made I have to enable them on khotkeys
[19:44] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: lol, yes :D
[19:45] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: I haven't seen a num-lock option so far
[19:45] <s0undt3ch> it's on, but it's led is off
[19:45] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: how do you get to your num-lock option?
[19:46] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: well, i got the german-language pack, but i dont think this would have any influence
[19:46] <Administrator_> .
[19:46] <s0undt3ch> system settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> ?
[19:46] <Saftpackl> then there are 3 tabs on the left
[19:46] <Saftpackl> the upper one says keyboard
[19:46] <xp-killer> how do i modif my shortcut keyboard that display the smileys in kmess?
[19:47] <nelsonstreet> .
[19:47] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: do you have intrepid?
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: ok, I have 2, mouse and keyboard shortcuts
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: yes
[19:47] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: me too...
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> upgraded from hardy
[19:47] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: me too :P
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> dam!
[19:49] <s0undt3ch> I have compiz running if that matters
[19:50] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: i dont have compiz, but i cant image it would matter.
[19:51] <s0undt3ch> as long as keys don't clash there won't be any issues, at least with kde3 there wasn't
[19:51] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: there seem to be 2 types of systemsettings in kde, 2 packages you can install, i got the "systemsettings", not the other one, maybe thats the difference
[19:52] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: the 2. one is "kde-systemsettings"
[19:53] <Saftpackl> a propos: is there a graphical package manager in kde4, like adept?
[19:53] <s0undt3ch> hmm
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: the seccond is not available anymore
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> I have the first too
[19:54] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: weird
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> yeah
[19:55] <s0undt3ch> I could always delete my .kde dir, I'll try that latter
[19:56] <emilsedgh> Saftpackl: adept is ported to kde4
[19:56] <Saftpackl> emilsedgh: ah, thanks
[19:57] <s0undt3ch> now all I have to do is get the audio volume keys to work and the num-lock led too
[19:57] <emilsedgh> actually better thab porter, its re-written for kde4
[19:58] <emilsedgh> s/porter/port/
[19:58] <usuario> ola
[19:58] <usuario> ola
[19:58] <usuario> oie
[20:00] <batiste> Hello
[20:00] <Saftpackl> emilsedgh: nice
[20:01] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: i got systemsettings 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 :D
[20:01] <batiste> I have on intrepid... Kde is crashing very often. I have recent nvidia card with nv driver. Does somebody has a similar exprience?
[20:02] <Saftpackl> batiste: kde4?
[20:04] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: mee too
[20:04] <batiste> ...Just crashed...
[20:04] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: waaaa 8)
[20:05] <bopferman> After a clean install of intrepid 8.10 I cannot login.  It will freeze in various parts of the KDE loading screen.
[20:05] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: install the german language pack ;-)
[20:05] <batiste> How can I get some debug information on my crash?
[20:06] <DaBonBon> what's the way to use kde3 on intrepid 8.10?
[20:06] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: then I wouldn't understand anything ;)
[20:06] <s0undt3ch> English all the way although my mother language is Portuguese
[20:08] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: got no ideas anymore :P
[20:09] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: got kdemultimedia installed?
[20:09] <usuario> oie[
[20:09] <usuario> .kanclakd
[20:09] <usuario> açldfhgd
[20:09] <usuario> kgçgf
[20:09] <usuario> 666
[20:09] <usuario> 66
[20:09] <usuario> 66
[20:09] <usuario> 66
[20:09] <s0undt3ch> will anyone kick that usuario?
[20:09] <usuario> hola?
[20:09] <usuario> 666
[20:09] <usuario> criunbdmm
[20:09] <usuario> hwdada
[20:10] <usuario> qweeqwe
[20:10] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: nope
[20:11] <courtjesterg> so peeps whats up with this shockwave not compate how the heck am i suppose to listen to some tunes myspace or the web? Java is installed
[20:12] <batiste> kde 4.1 keep crashing randomly on my machine. What kind I do?
[20:12] <batiste> s/kind/can
[20:13] <courtjesterg> kiss your new os i am not reaceiving that maybe there is an update cause i've been up for 48 hrs working on getting this os right
[20:17] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Beta/Kubuntu#KMix%20support%20for%20keyboard%20multimedia%20keys <- nope it does not work :)
[20:17] <HappySmileMan> So does anyone know how to install firefox without all the Gnome libs?
[20:20] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: so, does it matter to you, if the num light is on, or is it just important to be able to access the number-keys, that dont work, if you dont press the NUM key before?
[20:20] <laurent_> hi, i've got a annoying problem when playing video, there is a little slowdown every ~3 -4 seconds
[20:21] <laurent_> even vith dvd or divx, from the dvd or the harddisk
[20:21] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: becouse my NUM key-light isnt on, either, but the number keys are working
[20:21] <laurent_> it's a laptop with intel x3100 core 2 duo
[20:22] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: mine are working, but when I see that led off, I tend to turn it on ;)
[20:22] <s0undt3ch> so, then the numkeys stop working :)
[20:22] <Saftpackl> lol
[20:23] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: hmm, i dont think the light works, but there really is an auto-on on startup :)
[20:25] <pulaski> Hello, I'm looking all over for a solution to a noatun problem to no avail.  When I start noatun on my hardy 8.04 I get "Connecting/starting aRts soundserver failed. Make sure that artsd is configured properly." Can anyone suggest a solution?
[20:30] <RenzoreK> Anyone else having serious flash skipping issues in Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex? I didnt have this prob until I upgraded from Hardy
[20:31] <Rioting_pacifist> vi is retarded! i just want to edit a file and simply add some text to a line but typing it just doesnt work?!
[20:31] <HappySmileMan> Press escape, then i, then type
[20:32] <Rioting_pacifist> RenzoreK: is flash running nicer?
[20:32] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: What do u mean nicer?
[20:32] <Rioting_pacifist> erm with a higher value of nice, eg more than 1 may be causing the problem under high load
[20:33] <Rioting_pacifist> erm i mean 0
[20:36] <tacosarecool> hello
[20:38] <Illusioneer> hey, i have noticed an error with Konqueror4, it says that the various KCM plugins are missing, but they're installed.  is anybody else seeing this?  I'm using 8.10
[20:38] <tacosarecool> Some buttons are unresponsive
[20:39] <Rioting_pacifist> HappySmileMan: thanks i got added the text but ive ended up with loads of blank lines how do i get rid of them?
[20:39] <administrator_> hello
[20:40] <tacosarecool> !buttons responsive
[20:40] <tacosarecool> !buttons unresponsive
[20:41] <DaBonBon> anyone here using kde3 on kubuntu 8.10?
[20:41] <tacosarecool> How did you do that?
[20:41] <chrisruls00> I don't think you can do that.
[20:42] <tacosarecool> if you find .kde then change it to .kde4
[20:42] <tacosarecool> Maybe
[20:42] <Rioting_pacifist> theres a 3rd party repo but it means you cant install any kde4 programs
[20:42] <courtjesterg> Ok help fuguired out win about time to fix that problem now problem the web site throws back a php file which i have to open normally in windows it goes bye bye when i click on it but now kate wants to open it aaand or other programs  HELP need to play my game before they fire me
[20:43] <chrisruls00> I am currently having problem with the right-click meny of certian applications, namely konversation and k3b. The text will not appear in menus. Anyone else having this problem.
[20:43] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: The system is not under load, dont know why I would have to set its priority it has all system resources basically available
[20:44] <DaBonBon> Rioting_pacifist: why can't i install any kde4 programs/
[20:44] <DaBonBon> Rioting_pacifist: are you talking about the pearsoncomputing.net repository?
[20:44] <courtjesterg> i had one problem in konversation it went away apparently for now glitch
[20:44] <DaBonBon> are there any ceveats i should know before using that repo?
[20:45] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[20:45] <courtjesterg> nvidia i got the place for you hold on
[20:45] <fiyawerx> Does the hardware drivers app work in kubuntu 8.10? whenever I click 'activate' it just sits there and doesn't do anything
[20:46] <tacosarecool> Me too
[20:46] <courtjesterg> here you go nvinda graphic drivers
[20:46] <tacosarecool> Wait till you try to use your webcam with flash
[20:46] <courtjesterg> http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[20:46] <Rioting_pacifist> im fairly sure, last time i read about installing kde3 on 8.10 anyway, that there are so many conflicts between the 3rd party repo and kde4 pacakges youd need to use another 3rd party repo for it to work
[20:46] <tacosarecool> It will not work on some sites
[20:46] <fiyawerx> courtjesterg: whats wrong with the nvidia drivers in the regular repos?
[20:47] <fiyawerx> is it a known bug with the hardware drivers application?
[20:47] <Rioting_pacifist> RenzoreK: i dont know on my computer i found that by default flash was niced to 3 or something and if i set it to 1 it was much more responive, there are also some problems with ati cards that i ran into
[20:48] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: Ill try that real quick, I have nvidia (which sometimes seems even worse) the two major brand of cards and neither work well in Linux
[20:48] <pulaski> join #kde
[20:48] <courtjesterg> this works http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[20:48] <fiyawerx> pulaski: who?
[20:49] <courtjesterg> i need info on how to runa php file please
[20:49] <Rioting_pacifist> RenzoreK: well the problems seam to be with the binary drivers, but with nvidia i used to find if i added enough crap to xorg.conf it seamed to work fine (was 2/3 years ago tho)
[20:50] <pulaski> fiyawerx: That's me I forgot the slash. I'm looking for noatun info?
[20:50] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: I cant complain because It works somewhat decent, not as bad as others, but for an 8600GT i was expecting it to run smoothly. At least it did before I made the move to linux lol
[20:52] <chrisruls00> Hello, I am having problem with the text and menu in some applications. These applications all use a KDE3.5 style, like konversation and k3b. I am assuming there is some 3.5 setting making this happen, where would I go to fix this?
[20:53] <marek_> hi i have a problem with alternate installation, it says it cannot find cdrom driver
[20:53] <marek_> what should i do?
[20:54] <pulaski> fiyawerx: I'm pulaski, I forgot the /.  I need some info ot artsd.  How do you get it? apt-get can't find the package named artsd....
[20:55] <tacosarecool> mute iesomething
[20:55] <tacosarecool> I had that problem I muted it and sound worked
[20:57] <lakis1982> does anyone use liquid weather as widget ???  i have a problem
[20:59] <lakis1982> i go to add widgets ..when i select to add liquid weather it says  : SuperKaramba cannot continue to run this theme.One or more of the required components of the Kross scripting architecture is not installed. Please consult this theme's documentation and install the necessary Kross components.
[21:05] <urias> oi
[21:18] <Rioting_pacifist> ?
[21:20] <lovre> hi
[21:20] <lovre> i have a situation
[21:21] <lovre> installed windows, lost grub. Now i installed grub again, and now it doesnt show windows anymore in the list, so i cant boot it. What can i do?
[21:22] <HappySmileMan> You can add the option yourself in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> Not entirely sure if you'll need to change anything but mine is http://pastebin.com/m75cafdf7
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> Just add that to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> root line might need to be changed, depending on how it's partitioned
[21:23] <lovre> is this ok: http://pastebin.com/m246ea27d
[21:25] <lovre> what does "make active " do?
[21:25] <lovre> ill try it now, be back in a bit, thank you
[21:29] <lovre> not working
[21:29] <lovre> unsupported executable or something, error, cant load
[21:29] <lovre> damn
[21:32] <lovre> anyone? help? lost windows from grub list after install
[21:38] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Ubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:38] <bastones> kubuntu*
[21:40] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:41] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:42] <van> hello someone could help me out, i was trying to format a NTFS disk plug into my Kubuntu
[21:43] <van> someone could help me out
[21:43] <ahmos> !ask
[21:43] <van> i use mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 but after everything finish, my fdisk still reconise it as a NTFS how come?
[21:45] <cresco> having big probelms with ath0 device, can someone help
[21:45] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:46] <van> have you install the version Xwindows?
[21:46] <ahmos> bastones: try typing startx
[21:47] <bastones> its asking for localhost login: ? :S
[21:47] <ahmos> enter your user name then password
[21:48] <bastones> I have no user/password, I've only rebooted it from installation
[21:49] <bastones> any ideas?
[21:50] <GillesMM> what is the simple method to have mail command on my kubuntu station ?
[21:50] <ahmos> i don't know how you installed it without username and password
[21:52] <shiva> guys how can i change style for kde3 applications? i cannot install kcontrol...
[21:54] <shiva> any1?
[21:54] <c1sc0> hi shiva
[21:55] <shiva> hi.. so can anyone tell me how i can start kcmshell style for kde 3 apps? :)
[21:56] <sergio_> hola gente
[21:57] <sergio_> una pregunta
[21:57] <mister-t> !br
[21:57] <sergio_> como puedo config kde 4 y edit efect desckto
[21:58] <mister-t> !it
[21:58] <shiva> !es
[21:58] <shiva> :)
[21:58] <shiva> i think he speaks spanish
[21:59] <andylockran|lapt> hehe
[21:59] <mister-t>  :-)
[21:59] <andylockran|lapt> hey.  Can someone give me some advice.
[22:00] <andylockran|lapt> I've just switched to kubuntu (from ubuntu) so I could file some bug reports .etc.
[22:00] <andylockran|lapt> after listening to the latest ubuntu uk podcast it seemed you guys were having a hard time of it.
[22:00] <andylockran|lapt> so just thought I'd introduce myself :)
[22:00] <courtjesterg> hey every notice with amor in the adepts its suppose to give you hints but never does the boxs are empty i wouldn't mide try giving the little guys some artifical life
[22:01] <courtjesterg> i also could of swear someone made a virus once with that little thing
[22:01] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to fix a internet connection when the log out screen says network cannot connect to dbus
[22:02] <tacosarecool> Hmm
[22:02] <tacosarecool> Are you on wireless or ethernet
[22:02] <szrhawaii> its my friends comp
[22:02] <szrhawaii> we rebooted under a new os and the wireless button doesnt respond
[22:02] <szrhawaii> it says its enabled in the bios
[22:03] <szrhawaii> but then the software doesnt pick it up
[22:03] <tacosarecool> I don't remember what I did maybe disable network manager then enable
[22:04] <tacosarecool> But on laptop I just installed ubuntu but plan on install kubuntu
[22:04] <szrhawaii> i kubuntu better than ubuntu
[22:05] <szrhawaii> kubuntu is easier i think and comes with better features
[22:05] <szrhawaii> is anyone out there or do they just join in and look
[22:06] <lakis1982> can someone tell me any good rss reader for karamba ?
[22:06] <szrhawaii> what os you running
[22:07] <szrhawaii> are you on kubuntu ubuntu mythbuntu or xubunutu
[22:08] <szrhawaii> anyone home
try the sites that are givne for karamba
[22:09] <szrhawaii> like kde-loo.org, gnome-look.org, xfce-look.org
[22:11] <LimCore> what to type in konsole (inside running X) to set resolution to 800x600 ?
[22:12] <szrhawaii> i would think thats what your write
[22:13] <courtjesterg> does imap actually work with kmail takes so longer then pop3 in thunderbird
[22:14] <szrhawaii> so does anyone know how to connect a wireless when it wont even come on even after i checked the bios reset the settings and also tried doing configuring the network on the software
[22:14] <courtjesterg> i saw soemthing for wireless in the adept when i typed in usb
[22:15] <szrhawaii> does it fix a problem
[22:15] <courtjesterg> bets me i haven't gotten to my usb drivers yet
[22:15] <courtjesterg> they don't work
[22:15] <szrhawaii> because it was working then i rebooted using ubuntu then the wireless didnt work anymore
[22:16] <szrhawaii> but i upgraded to the kde version of ubuntu and now the graphic chip works but the wireless still wont come on when i press the button to come on
[22:16] <szrhawaii> the light doesnt even show
[22:17] <szrhawaii> your usb doesnt work
[22:17] <szrhawaii> court your usb doesnt work
[22:17] <courtjesterg> nope they don't work
[22:17] <szrhawaii> how did you manage that
[22:18] <szrhawaii> do you have a usb device that lights up when you plug it in
[22:18] <szrhawaii> then you can tell if its a software or hardeware problem
[22:18] <courtjesterg> leaveing s simple usb storage device in there there is power lights up its got music on it but sad see no notifications and don't know where it would be in the computere
[22:19] <courtjesterg> i've been up more then 48 hrs switching over for the first time ti kubuntu
[22:19] <courtjesterg> finally got wine to work now working on getting this game to work
[22:19] <courtjesterg> project vistor
[22:20] <szrhawaii> that wine system kind of sucks
[22:20] <szrhawaii> sometimes it conflicts with programs
[22:20] <henrik__> Hey everyone. Im having some problems with kubuntu 8.10 and vlc (and other fullscreen apps). When I watch a video in fullscreen mode, the screen flickers as my widgets updates.
[22:20] <courtjesterg> when it usually sends me a file then i click on it in windows and it dissappears turns out its a php. file and now kate opens it up
[22:20] <szrhawaii> not sure they fixed all the bugs out of it yet
[22:20] <courtjesterg> aand the game won't go ack!
[22:20] <henrik__> Does anyone have this problem?
[22:21] <szrhawaii> henrik you should just go back to the kubuntu 8.04.1
[22:21] <ytaggs> Hi, im new with kubuntu, have always used ubuntu and im a little lost
[22:21] <szrhawaii> that works better than the new version
[22:21] <courtjesterg> yeah when i pull the corner of a say browser and expand some times i got the envy graphic driver for nivivda installed
[22:21] <szrhawaii> court just take off the wine
[22:21] <henrik__> Bugger, I like the new versio ;)
[22:21] <szrhawaii> and use a generic version
[22:21] <courtjesterg> no wine is working fine
[22:21] <szrhawaii> thats good
[22:22] <courtjesterg> i was able to install the exe file
[22:22] <szrhawaii> ive had problems with it before
[22:22] <szrhawaii> after it uploads
[22:22] <ytaggs> could anybody explain me how to keep things like the applet for power managment and for the ethernet for loading a startup???
[22:22] <szrhawaii> ytaggs what are you lost in
[22:22] <tacosarecool> There's a bunch of web pages that aren't displaying right in kde4
[22:23] <Shurik2k5> hello guys. please recomend bittornet client for kubuntu 8.10
[22:23] <szrhawaii> go to adept manager and download superkaramba for now till you learn more on pluging in stuf ytaggs
[22:23] <courtjesterg> its jsut you go to the web site to lauch the site then click agree and opens to save another file or open either way its a php file that going down and wine doesn't have anything to do with php files so its a lancher of which i don't know what to do usually opens the game
[22:23] <ytaggs> ok...i'll check tank u...kde seems to be odd
[22:23] <szrhawaii> shurik you should have something called ktorrent under internet settings
[22:23] <mozzy> ktorrent works fine for me
[22:23] <tacosarecool> Transmission or wine utorrent
[22:24] <Shurik2k5> transmition crash few time
[22:24] <szrhawaii> ktorrent works really good with ark
[22:24] <szrhawaii> check your settings
[22:24] <Shurik2k5> what about deluge?
[22:24] <courtjesterg> yeah thsi imap for kamil doesn't work when trying to retrive your mail from gmail
[22:24] <courtjesterg> its still trying
[22:24] <ytaggs> in gnome i always used deluge
[22:24] <szrhawaii> ytaggs yeah at first it does but once you play with it youll get the hang of it
[22:24] <szrhawaii> check out kde-look.org also
[22:25] <szrhawaii> thats a tricky one
[22:26] <szrhawaii> which one do you have thunderbird
[22:26] <Shurik2k5> ok, thanks. And what about svn-client
[22:26] <Shurik2k5> gui svn-client -)
[22:26] <szrhawaii> not sure on that one
[22:28] <szrhawaii> if your new to kde i recommend you go to kde-look.org and check your adept manager if you need any programs
[22:28] <ytaggs> ok could someone please help me i dont want knetwork manager to launch each time i enter kubuntu...i hate having unnecesary thins on the system tray
[22:29] <ytaggs> ??
[22:29] <szrhawaii> go to adept manager in system and type in knetwork then right click and remove then apply
[22:30] <szrhawaii> then it should disappear out your life forever
[22:30] <ytaggs> ahh ok thank i
[22:30] <ytaggs> hehehe sorry im new to kde
[22:30] <szrhawaii> but make sure you have a network device running or it wont work later
[22:30] <szrhawaii> and you need it to use adept manager
[22:30] <ytaggs> how?
[22:31] <ytaggs> i mean if i close it i still have internet
[22:31] <szrhawaii> do you have a network device on it already
[22:31] <szrhawaii> besides that one
[22:31] <ytaggs> i dont know
[22:31] <ytaggs> what do u mean?
[22:31] <szrhawaii> did you do a full upgrade to kubuntu
[22:32] <szrhawaii> or just a partial
[22:32] <ytaggs> i formated and installed kubuntu
[22:32] <szrhawaii> did you do a full partition
[22:32] <ytaggs> one swap one root and one home
[22:32] <szrhawaii> or half kubuntu half ubuntu
[22:32] <ytaggs> only kubuntu
[22:32] <szrhawaii> ok then you need knetwork unless you download anothe network device
[22:33] <szrhawaii> otherwise you wont get wireless
[22:33] <ytaggs> ok, but i dont want it on the sistem tray
[22:33] <szrhawaii> or any other online thing also
[22:33] <ytaggs> i dont have wireless
[22:33] <szrhawaii> oh thats easy
[22:33] <ytaggs> how???
[22:34] <szrhawaii> just go to system tray and click system tray setting
[22:34] <szrhawaii> there should be a line and an arrow on the bottom
[22:34] <szrhawaii> click the arrow
[22:35] <szrhawaii> then it should say remove system tray change settings or move
[22:35] <tacosarecool> There's some pages that aren't displaying right in kde4
[22:35] <tacosarecool> Like stickam
[22:35] <ytaggs> now i want to have the system tray but i dont want knetwalk always there
[22:35] <tacosarecool> It's displaying the list weird
[22:35] <tacosarecool> when your on home page
[22:35] <ytaggs> do u understand??
[22:37] <szrhawaii> yeah when you click change settings
[22:37] <szrhawaii> or configure settinsg
[22:37] <ytaggs> im using kde 4.1
[22:37] <szrhawaii> then click knetwork
[22:37] <ytaggs> so i dont see what u r sayng
[22:37] <szrhawaii> ohh ok
[22:37] <alan_> sup yall
[22:37] <szrhawaii> i dont like that version
[22:38] <ytaggs> hahaha i think neither me
[22:38] <szrhawaii> hey
[22:38] <ytaggs> whats the best 3.5?
[22:38] <szrhawaii> yeah
[22:38] <szrhawaii> kde 3
[22:38] <szrhawaii> is better right now
[22:38] <alan_> Its more stable?
[22:38] <szrhawaii> they are still working the bugs on the 4
[22:38] <ytaggs> yeah i think it is more stable
[22:38] <szrhawaii> it is and its easier
[22:38] <alan_> Because i'm new and already had a few apps crash on me
[22:38] <szrhawaii> kde 4 is kind of confusing
[22:38] <ytaggs> and u r using hardy?
[22:38] <szrhawaii> yeah
[22:39] <ytaggs> well yeah
[22:39] <ytaggs> its better
[22:39] <ytaggs> intrepid its still full uof bugs
[22:39] <szrhawaii> i thought kde 4 was ok if you like the mac feel to it
[22:39] <szrhawaii> because its like that
[22:39] <szrhawaii> but i got restless of it and came back to kde 3
[22:39] <tacosarecool> KDE4 is nothing like mac it is more like vista
[22:40] <alan_> Yeah
[22:40] <ytaggs> i dont think....dont know i really like gnome, just wanted to give a try to kde and because never really liked  kde 3 so i tried 4
[22:40] <szrhawaii> its got some of the same features as mac os x leopard
[22:40] <ytaggs> but i think im coming back to gnome
[22:40] <kkerwin> Hi. Trying to run aticonfig to setup my radeon 9800 mobility on kernel 2.6.27-7-generic. aticonfig segfaults, complaining in the syslog: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfce1560 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]
[22:40] <szrhawaii> yeah everyone has their preferences
[22:41] <ytaggs> yup
[22:41] <szrhawaii> even xfce is kind of wierd to me
[22:41] <szrhawaii> i even tried myth with xfce also
[22:41] <alan_> Im kinda more used to Gnome,Just trying KDE out and see how it works and stuff.
[22:41] <courtjesterg> i got a question just open my web browser says it uses kde 4.12 but there is a 4.13 on the site
[22:41] <kkerwin> Oops. Make that Radeon 9600 mobility.
[22:41] <szrhawaii> dont worry about that court
[22:42] <courtjesterg> ok
[22:42] <szrhawaii> ytagg give yourself like a day to play with kde 4 before going back
[22:42] <szrhawaii> you never know
[22:43] <Alanz_> How fast are bugfixes available?
[22:43] <szrhawaii> i know sometimes i dont give other os a chance and then switch before figuring anything out much
[22:43] <szrhawaii> i even tried vista black edition for fun yesterday
[22:43] <szrhawaii> or windows black edition
[22:43] <ytaggs> szrhawaii //yeah u r right....anyway i have a question i closed knetworkmanager and im still here so i can uninstall it
[22:44] <ytaggs> ohh
[22:44] <ytaggs> of course i can
[22:44] <ytaggs> it just an applet
[22:44] <szrhawaii> if you want to you can
[22:44] <szrhawaii> yeah
[22:44] <ytaggs> i thougt it was a network manager
[22:44] <ytaggs> lol
[22:44] <Alanz_> lol
[22:44] <szrhawaii> it is if you delete it from your package manager
[22:44] <szrhawaii> not from your system try
[22:45] <ytaggs> what?
[22:45] <szrhawaii> your package manager all systems have them
[22:45] <ytaggs> yeah i know
[22:46] <tacosarecool> My flash player is being weird because some sites let me set settings for flash
[22:46] <tacosarecool> some don't
[22:46] <ytaggs> im sayng that i thougt that knetwormanager was the kde network manager...but in fact its just an applet for the network manager
[22:46] <szrhawaii> ohh ok
[22:46] <szrhawaii> got confused
[22:47] <blenderman345> Hello I need help installing Kubuntu
[22:47] <ytaggs> nevermind
[22:47] <blenderman345> ?
[22:47] <ytaggs> hi blenderman
[22:47] <ytaggs> whats your problem??
[22:47] <tacosarecool> You wanna reformat or what
[22:47] <szrhawaii> install
[22:47] <tacosarecool> guided install using whole disc
[22:48] <blenderman345> I'm partioning with the regular Ubutnu
[22:48] <szrhawaii> thats your best bet
[22:48] <tacosarecool> then
[22:48] <blenderman345> Ubuntu
[22:48] <szrhawaii> the o that
[22:48] <szrhawaii> do that
[22:48] <ytaggs> ubuntu or kubuntu??
[22:48] <szrhawaii> it gives you the option when you reboot
[22:48] <szrhawaii> to o half and half or the full thing
[22:48] <blenderman345> I'm installing Kubuntu 50/50 with Ubuntu
[22:48] <blenderman345> 50/50
[22:49] <ytaggs> ok so whats the problem u r having??
[22:49] <blenderman345> And it's stuck at 50% for 10 min
[22:49] <szrhawaii> then do that
[22:49] <szrhawaii> then do a full one
[22:49] <szrhawaii> just pick one
[22:49] <ytaggs> 50% of partioning??
[22:49] <blenderman345> I can't exactly do that cuz I gotta lot of stuff on Ubuntu
[22:49] <ytaggs> use the live cd
[22:49] <szrhawaii> then get a external and save it
[22:49] <szrhawaii> or the c works
[22:50] <szrhawaii> cd
[22:50] <blenderman345> And Just doing Kubuntu to use Blender. And some other KDE specials. Live CD used
[22:50] <ytaggs> blender?? the 3d modeling software?
[22:50] <blenderman345> Yep
[22:50] <szrhawaii> you can use anything gnome has on kde
[22:50] <ytaggs> u can use it in ubuntu
[22:51] <szrhawaii> yeah some you can on gnome
[22:51] <blenderman345> It no work on Ubuntu so I'm getting problems so blenderdevs said that I sould go Kubuntu for KDE
[22:51] <ytaggs> u can just install kde in ubuntu and log in a kde session
[22:51] <blenderman345> And I tried live cd and Kubuntu looks cooler. :)
[22:51] <szrhawaii> then go with that
[22:51] <szrhawaii> whats the hold up
[22:51] <szrhawaii> cant make up your mind
[22:51] <blenderman345> The install is stuck!
[22:52] <ytaggs> ok.. so your problem right now is??? didnt get it u r stuck at 50% of what??
[22:52] <blenderman345> At 50% of partitioning
[22:52] <ytaggs> ok, so try again
[22:52] <szrhawaii> turn it out a restart the whole process
[22:52] <blenderman345> Just a min
[22:52] <ytaggs> ohh partitioning the disl where ubuntu is??
[22:52] <blenderman345> omigosh working now
[22:52] <blenderman345> :(
[22:52] <ytaggs> lol
[22:52] <blenderman345> srry bout that
[22:52] <szrhawaii> lol
[22:52] <blenderman345> lol?
[22:53] <blenderman345> lol
[22:53] <ytaggs> it worked??
[22:53] <blenderman345> I don
[22:53] <blenderman345> 't know
[22:53] <blenderman345> yet
[22:53] <ytaggs> u sayd working
[22:53] <ytaggs> no?
[22:53] <blenderman345> I have to go through User name and everything
[22:53] <blenderman345> now
[22:53] <ytaggs> so its cool
[22:53] <blenderman345> then I can see
[22:53] <blenderman345> but I'm staying connected here in case.
[22:54] <Alanz_> Does Konqueror comes whit Java and flash player installed?
[22:54] <szrhawaii> its something
[22:54] <ytaggs> ok
[22:54] <szrhawaii> no
[22:54] <szrhawaii> alanz
[22:54] <ytaggs> no u have to install it
[22:54] <Alanz_> How do i install/enable them?
[22:54] <ytaggs> kubuntu restricted extras...
[22:54] <Alanz_> Oh
[22:54] <ytaggs> go to synaptic
[22:54] <Alanz_> thanks
[22:54] <ytaggs> u r welcome
[22:54] <szrhawaii> package manager
[22:55] <blenderman345> Uh guys is there a way to keep Ubuntu or Kubuntu without a password?
[22:55] <szrhawaii> ytaggs so you know anything about wireless buttons not working or turning on
[22:55] <szrhawaii> not really blender
[22:55] <blenderman345> It's the only annoying thing about all Ubuntu distros
[22:55] <ytaggs> nop...but u can do autologin
[22:55] <blenderman345> auto login?
[22:55] <ytaggs> believe me its better with a password
[22:56] <blenderman345> It's a family computer
[22:56] <blenderman345> and it's a desktop
[22:56] <szrhawaii> it remembers your password so you dont have to do it again
[22:56] <blenderman345> How do I do auto login?
[22:56] <ytaggs> yeah u can do that so when u torn on the computer it automatically enter in the os without asking the password
[22:56] <ytaggs> in kubuntu??
[22:56] <szrhawaii> if you want to you can go into the admin part and add users
[22:56] <ytaggs> or ubuntu?
[22:56] <Alanz_> Ok so i used Adept,and searched for Java,Theres a handful of them,Which one i choose?
[22:56] <szrhawaii> so they dont have to worry
[22:57] <szrhawaii> look for firefox or mozilla plugin
[22:57] <szrhawaii> opps thats for konqueror huh
[22:57] <ytaggs> just search for kubuntu restricted extras or restricted content
[22:57] <blenderman345> Actually, considering the odds, I've seen that one user is like 7x faster than 7 users
[22:57] <RobertLaptop> Anyone setup network manger to work with Verizon usb727?  I not finding anything on google but the hardware gets found so it looks like it is a mater of getting knetworkmanger to recognize it is there.
[22:57] <courtjesterg> nah kmail is working fine with imap i never expanded the folder for gmail wow 3000 spams in that folder ;0
[22:57] <szrhawaii> yeah than do that
[22:57] <blenderman345> One user is much faster, it's like that on Ubuntu and my Mac
[22:58] <courtjesterg> you can download the java directly from adobe now i've been wondering about a shockwave program of sorts
[22:58]  * andylockran|lapt is away: Gone away for now
[22:58] <ytaggs> blender u want to do autologin in kubu o ubunto?
[22:58] <szrhawaii> i use the password so no one can change admin stuff
[22:59] <szrhawaii> or root folders
[22:59]  * andylockran|lapt is back.
[22:59] <szrhawaii> ditch konqueror and download the firefox
[22:59] <blenderman345> oh forget it. I'll just leave it. :( It's such a pain
[22:59] <szrhawaii> it works better
[22:59] <blenderman345> Ok I gtg.
[23:00] <courtjesterg> i don't like using firefox anymore
[23:00] <szrhawaii> why is that
[23:00] <courtjesterg> wasusing that in windows
[23:00] <szrhawaii> thats different than using it here
[23:00] <szrhawaii> windows sucks anyways
[23:00] <ytaggs> blender
[23:00] <ytaggs> its really easy
[23:00] <courtjesterg> is it i was using thunderbird too
[23:00] <szrhawaii> he left ytaggs
[23:00] <ytaggs> ooh
[23:01] <courtjesterg> i want to stick it out with the browser that it ccame with
[23:01] <szrhawaii>  Ed Fella
[23:01] <szrhawaii> oops
[23:01] <courtjesterg> start developing this even more when i get settled down
[23:01] <szrhawaii> i like that browser for when im downloading stuff
[23:01] <szrhawaii> but i wuse firefox for surfing  the internet
[23:01] <courtjesterg> ever tryed sea monkey?
[23:02] <ytaggs> chrome rocks!
[23:02] <szrhawaii> yeah didnt like it
[23:02] <szrhawaii> any of you using comp fusion
[23:03] <ytaggs> yeah
[23:03] <courtjesterg> yeah well i am going to be looking for a good compiler i understadn kate does show good and such i want to dev
[23:03] <ytaggs> im using compiz
[23:03] <courtjesterg> make some money over here for my sweet in little programs since i am job less
[23:03] <ytaggs> by the way it gives me a lot of problem in kde 4.1
[23:03] <szrhawaii> compiz or fusion
[23:03] <szrhawaii> it does
[23:03] <ytaggs> u know...compiz-fusion
[23:03] <courtjesterg> what i want to do is make a game
[23:03] <ytaggs> would u send us one for free?
[23:04] <szrhawaii> use kate
[23:04] <szrhawaii> it works good
[23:04] <szrhawaii> she should post it so we can download it
[23:05] <courtjesterg> free beta is free i don't like the idea of monthly subscriptions believes in the game community and if you buy a game you should play it for free
[23:05] <courtjesterg> now upgrades is another story
[23:05] <holymoo> hey did you know in intrepid, if you just plug in a joystick, it controls the mouse?
[23:05] <courtjesterg> or add-in to be purchased for time render of my sweet
[23:05] <courtjesterg> sweat\
[23:06] <szrhawaii> and tears huh
[23:06] <courtjesterg> like 10six or pv you pay a sub to splay mean why you can also pay for extra jitter packs and stuff to help you out the jitters i think is a good idea but a monthly sub is bad
[23:06] <courtjesterg> halflife i love and hl2 how they embraced the community
[23:07] <ytaggs> szrhawaii im leaving tjank u for ur help
[23:09] <szrhawaii> no prob
[23:09] <szrhawaii> have a good one
[23:09] <tacosarecool> hello
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Ah
[23:09] <szrhawaii> hello
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Flash and kde4 don't work well together
[23:09] <szrhawaii> they dont
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Like some pages don't display right
[23:09] <szrhawaii> what are you using to display them
[23:10] <andylockran|lapt> can anyone recommend a good kde twitter/identi.ca poster ?
[23:10]  * HappySmileMan is building mozilla-qt
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Flash player 10
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Yeah
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Twhirl
[23:10] <szrhawaii> on kde
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Get the adobe air beta
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Then get twhirl
[23:10] <szrhawaii> you have wine
[23:10] <tacosarecool> No theres a adobe air beta for linux
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Works well
[23:11] <andylockran|lapt> tacosarecool: is that straight off the adobe site?
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Yep
[23:11] <amigrave> how can I use console8x16 in konsole 2.1 from kde 4.1.3 ? I activated bitmap fonts in fontconfig (can see the console8x16 in kcontrol) but I can select it in konsole
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Or google
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Then you will find the link
[23:11] <szrhawaii> link it up
[23:12] <tacosarecool> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/linux/
[23:14] <tacosarecool> http://www.twhirl.org/project/twhirl
[23:14] <andylockran|lapt> no way.. the twhirl website installs adobe air for me on linux.. using flash
[23:16] <tacosarecool> You must be on a windows version of flash then?
[23:16] <andylockran|lapt> tacosarecool: flashplugin-nonfree I think
[23:16] <tacosarecool> Or you can just use flash player 10
[23:16] <tacosarecool> On synaptic
[23:16] <tacosarecool> Or
[23:17] <tacosarecool> You can install manually
[23:17] <tacosarecool> If you want flock to have flash
[23:17] <HappySmileMan> Is it not horribly insecure that flash is allowed to install programs?
[23:17] <tacosarecool> It's not
[23:17] <tacosarecool> I think andy is lieing flash can't get abobe air on linux yet
[23:17] <andylockran|lapt> nope.. it started
[23:17] <andylockran|lapt> and failed :p
[23:18] <tacosarecool> Ok
[23:18] <tacosarecool> see
[23:18] <tacosarecool> You have to get air manually
[23:18] <szrhawaii> yep its manual for me too
[23:18] <HappySmileMan> No it did offer to install it, but then it fails
[23:18] <szrhawaii> gotta get the bin file and place it
[23:18] <HappySmileMan> Meaning it's probably allowe dinstall software on some platforms or something?
[23:18] <tacosarecool> right click it
[23:18] <szrhawaii> mine downloaded
[23:18] <tacosarecool> And then give it perm to execute
[23:18] <tacosarecool> permission
[23:19] <szrhawaii> thats easy
[23:21] <Fred_NewIntrepid> I did a fresh install on a old Toshiba Notebook I can't change screen resolution
[23:22] <Fred_NewIntrepid> The notebook supports 1024x768 and it is at 800x600
[23:23] <earthcreed> Can anyone point me to a resource on identifying how to install Nvidia drivers?  Jockey isn't working for me, hangs after I click activate.
[23:23] <andylockran|lapt> once I've downloaded the .air file.. how do I install it ?
[23:24] <szrhawaii> anyone know wireless troubleshooting good in here
[23:24] <tacosarecool> left click
[23:24] <Fred_NewIntrepid> How can I increase the resolution?
[23:24] <tacosarecool> That's all
[23:24] <szrhawaii> through terminal
[23:26] <szrhawaii> can i get a wireless troubleshooting person
[23:26] <szrhawaii> anyone
[23:26] <szrhawaii> good at troubleshooting wireless problems
[23:26] <earthcreed> What is your issue
[23:26] <szrhawaii> theres like ten million people in here and no one knows wireless
[23:26] <holymoo> why not just ask you questio nand see who answers
[23:27] <szrhawaii> i try to turn the wireless on manually and it doesnt turn on anymore
[23:27] <szrhawaii> the bios is good
[23:27] <earthcreed> Is it on when they computer is first turned on?
[23:27] <szrhawaii> the software is there
[23:27] <szrhawaii> but does not manually turn on anymore
[23:28] <szrhawaii> happened after i rebooted a new os in
[23:28] <szrhawaii> guess no one can help me on that
[23:28] <tacosarecool> Wait
[23:28] <lighti3ulb> I need some help with xorg and my synaptics touchpad
[23:29] <szrhawaii> thats the toughest question i swear
[23:29] <earthcreed> Intrepid has an issue where network manager will not turn on a new wireless device that wasn't on and recognized when the computer was started.
[23:29] <tacosarecool> The laptop is the wireless toggled on
[23:29] <RobertLaptop> Does anyone know what package I need to install so knetworkmanager can configuire a dailup connection?
[23:29] <szrhawaii> i try to turn it on but the light doesnt come on
[23:29] <szrhawaii> earth how do you solve that problem
[23:29] <szrhawaii> thats kind of what happened
[23:30] <earthcreed> You can't, (unless you wan't to mess with kernel level stuff).
[23:30] <lighti3ulb> Xorg sees that I have a synaptics touchpad, but there is no synaptics section in my xorg
[23:30] <szrhawaii> do you know how
[23:30] <earthcreed> Just make sure the device is on when the laptop is turned on.
[23:30] <lighti3ulb> Just adding someone else's synaptics section didn't work
[23:30] <szrhawaii> i know how to get into it i just need command prompts
[23:30] <szrhawaii> it wont even turn on
[23:31] <szrhawaii> i tried the bios i tried the software i tried rebooting and all the times same problem
[23:32] <szrhawaii> i even tried reloading the official product software
[23:32] <szrhawaii> and that didnt even want to load
[23:32] <szrhawaii> if i throw windows back on it boots me out
[23:33] <szrhawaii> can you solve this problem i go to reboot windows os and the computer boots me out before configuring
[23:33] <szrhawaii> when it prompts to set the settings
[23:34] <szrhawaii> anyone know that problem
[23:34] <szrhawaii> so earth you dont know what how i can configure the kernel so it works the right way
[23:35] <szrhawaii> or at least a way to start it all over again so everything works properly
[23:36] <szrhawaii> should i delet all partitions then reboot to bios an see if i cant turn the wireless on there or should i try safe mode and see if it comes on in there and see if it will work
[23:36] <szrhawaii> the toggle doesnt work so im not sure how to recreate that
[23:36] <szrhawaii> or restart it
[23:41] <zir-rt> hi, how can I configure the mouse to one single click for gnome programs?
[23:42] <a_faris> Goooodddd morninggg guyzzz
[23:43] <a_faris> Anyone out there?
[23:43] <ilham> zir-rt: what apps do you use
[23:44] <ilham> a_faris: good morning
[23:44] <szrhawaii> hello
[23:44] <zir-rt> ilham: For ex. Firefox save dialogs, quot libet..
[23:44] <mister-t> !hi
[23:44] <HappySmileMan> The state of mozilla-qt seems pretty weird, all the QT code seems to be written but there's a few really obvious things not defined, like no-one added CAIRO_SURFACE_TYPE_QPAINTER to the enum in cairo.h
[23:45] <HappySmileMan> So It appears that all the hard stuff is done but it needs to be messed around with before it compiles
[23:45] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to turn on the toggle for a wireless when it the light doesnt work through the program files
[23:47] <ilham> zir-rt: Sorry no idea
[23:47] <a_faris> errr .. can someone help me with my display resolution pls?
[23:47] <zir-rt> ilham: thanks anyway :)
[23:49] <lazlor> !shoutcast
[23:53] <artur_> why can a C program, finishs in a message of 'segmentation fail' sometimes, and sometimes everything works with no problem? Could be a problem in the memory reserved to a process?
[23:57] <tacosarecool> But why aren't some pages displaying properly
[23:57] <tacosarecool> Is it just kde4?
[23:57] <scholz> I have Kubuntu and Firefox 3.x but cannot get the Kodak plugin/extension to work
[23:57] <scholz> the login just hangs... (with FireFox 2.x also)
[23:57] <scholz> any ideas?
[23:57] <tacosarecool> Wait till you get to stickam some stuff won't display right
[23:58] <HappySmileMan> Latest firefox from source has Theory and Vorbis plugins bbuilt in... Does Firefox 3 have these or are they new to 3.1?
[23:59] <tacosarecool> Any ideas I'll send you a pic
[23:59]  * andylockran|lapt is away: Gone away for now