[00:26] <LjjjL> now that's efficiency, k-lined before i even could join here
[00:30] <nalioth> klined?
[00:30] <LjjjL> nalioth: rose28ans, did "hello"s on join... did on my own join at least. might have been k-lined by that friendly robotic staffer, perhaps.
[00:31] <nalioth> LjjjL: do we know you?
[00:32] <LjjjL> nalioth: you certainly know me less than i know myself
[00:32] <LjjjL> so no
[00:39]  * Myrtti contemplates sleeping
[00:39] <LjjjL> Myrtti: i'd rather suggest a coffee
[00:43] <LjjjL> don't we know that "malv" nickname who just joined -ot? i mean in a bad way
[00:50] <elkbuntu> LjjjL, gunna cloak up or what? :P
[00:51] <LjjjL> elkbuntu: i'll do it just because you asked in a direct way
[03:50] <Flannel> ubottu: tell WPPWAH about away
[04:21] <bazhang> * [KyPoHja] (n=chatzill@12-202-128-42.client.mchsi.com): New Now Know How
[04:21] <bazhang> spamming via PM
[05:07] <bazhang> [holymoo] (n=biteme@S01060016b6b53675.vf.shawcable.net): holy moo this ident OK?
[05:08] <nalioth> bazhang: actions speak louder than words
[05:09] <jdong> jdong's 2nd law of IRC: A person whose nick contains 'moo' has a higher risk of being trouble for the ops :)
[05:09] <bazhang> nalioth, thought he was banned with that; not sure why it was removed
[05:10] <bazhang> @login
[05:10] <bazhang> @bansearch holymoo
[05:14] <bazhang> am wondering that since that channel no longer exists if he will be banned from #kubuntu; seem to recall he idled in here many many times (holymoo)
[06:34] <jdong> 01:32 -!- OltreIrc`1517 
[06:34] <jdong>           [n=F_ysCRiP@host202-29-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has 
[06:34] <jdong>           joined #ubuntu-devel
[06:34] <jdong> 01:32 < OltreIrc`1517> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y 
[06:34] <jdong>                        sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v3.1.5«
[06:34] <jdong> 01:32 < OltreIrc`1517> !list
[06:34] <jdong> is that some kind of bot?
[06:53] <Flannel> Or an IRC script thing
[07:09] <jdong> the ASCII art banner thing looked odd enough
[07:09] <jdong> silly underground digital age culture :)
[07:09] <nickrud> what's the first law of irc?
[07:10] <jdong> nickrud: the worst stuff always goes in the wrong channel?
[07:10] <nickrud> oh, that's a corollary of the first rule of life ;(
[07:10] <jdong> yeah, and not too distant relative of the first rule of internal memos
[07:32] <bazhang> holymoo was removed from #ubuntu; now in #kubuntu
[07:33] <bazhang> holymoo> sezitas: what problem are you having specifically? i've gotten banned by retards in #ubuntu again so can't follow up there if you are checking in both
[07:50] <bazhang> whoever has rights in #kubuntu should look at courtjesterg
[07:59] <bazhang> would be nice for a second opinion on this
[08:01] <bazhang> banning holymoo in #ubuntu means he will continue in #kubuntu
[08:14] <elkbuntu> bazhang, if he's spreading bullpoo, he can go moo elsewhere.
[08:15] <bazhang> elkbuntu, thanks; no one with rights in #kubuntu was around--didnt want him to start ranting there about the retards in #ubuntu again
[08:20] <bazhang> Corwin (n=kvirc@pool-98-119-20-141.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) has joined #ubuntu so a ban on that would be what syntax (already left)
[08:21] <bazhang> holymoo has been banned from #ubuntu ; eyes on him in #kubuntu
[08:22] <holymoo> *scroll*
[08:22] <holymoo> lol
[08:22] <holymoo> bazhang: touchy aren't we?
[08:23] <bazhang> holymoo, how may we help you
[08:23] <holymoo> i could go on and on if you like
[08:23] <holymoo> why the frown little guy?
[08:23] <holymoo> c'mon share
[08:23] <holymoo> we all wanna hear it
[08:24] <holymoo> penis too short?
[08:24] <holymoo> ego too small?
[08:24] <bazhang> you were asked to abide by the code of conduct and remain ontopic holymoo 
[08:24] <holymoo> just retarded?
[08:24] <bazhang> and you failed to do so.
[08:24] <holymoo> blah blah blah
[08:24] <holymoo> i did not
[08:24] <holymoo> and you know it
[08:24] <holymoo> but you did catch on to the insult
[08:24] <holymoo> that was very good
[08:24] <bazhang> you are now banned in #ubuntu
[08:24] <holymoo> lol 
[08:24] <holymoo> REALLY?
[08:25] <holymoo> congratulations sherlock
[08:25] <holymoo> so
[08:25] <holymoo> how much abuse did you suffer as a child?
[08:25] <holymoo> lets explore
[08:25] <holymoo> i mean there are quite a few assholes in here
[08:25] <holymoo> but you are particularly touchy
[08:25] <holymoo> lets explore that tiny little mind of yours
[08:25] <bazhang> holymoo, you would be best served to stop now.
[08:26] <holymoo> how many years of psychoanlysis have you gone through?
[08:26] <holymoo> or what?
[08:26] <holymoo> you are going to ban me from here too?
[08:26] <holymoo> HAHAHA!
[08:26] <holymoo> I FUCKING DARE YOU.
[08:26] <holymoo> *cough*
[08:26] <holymoo> go on i'm waiting.
[08:26] <holymoo> what?
[08:27] <holymoo> whats the indecision?
[08:27] <holymoo> ahhh iseee
[08:27] <holymoo> the retard understands if he gives me what i want i win
[08:27] <holymoo> fucking idiot, you lost in the channel
[08:27] <holymoo> you loose here too.
[08:29] <elkbuntu> nalioth, PriceChild how much longer are we going to be skirting around him?
[08:49] <bazhang> wow sorry to be disconnected like that
[08:49] <bazhang> guessing holymoo did not leave of his own volition
[08:49] <bazhang> @login
[08:49] <bazhang> @btlogin
[08:52] <elkbuntu> he did actually
[08:52] <elkbuntu> after daring you to ban him, then when you didnt respond, leaving assuming he was in the right.
[08:53] <bazhang> thanks elkbuntu ; actually was not leaving but disconnected
[08:54] <elkbuntu> no, s/leaving/he left/
[08:54] <bazhang> hehe I mean I was disconnected :)
[09:04] <Flannel> bazhang: Only after complementing you on how not-uptight you were in here.
[09:05] <bazhang> Flannel, that is hard to believe :)
[09:05] <bazhang> though now I understand why he was banned in #kubuntu-kde4 for so long
[09:05] <Flannel> bazhang: Nah, he was *attempting* to say you lose, but instead mentioned how loose you were.
[09:06] <bazhang> with him and Negroid (spammer), that was some vitriol in a short span of time
[09:06] <bazhang> Flannel, aha, that is funny
[10:02] <ikonia> chatcoppa is a troll, 
[10:02] <bazhang> seems like it
[10:05] <bazhang> heh
[10:07] <elkbuntu> that was a rather quick rejoin for an innocent
[10:08] <ikonia> yes
[10:08] <ikonia> I'm watching
[10:10] <Myrtti> moin
[10:10] <ikonia> hey hey
[10:10] <El_gato_xD> hi
[10:10] <El_gato_xD> ikonia, please
[10:11] <elkbuntu> El_gato_xD, we cannot help with #ubuntu-es issues.
[10:11] <El_gato_xD> can you permite me in ubuntu
[10:11] <El_gato_xD> #ubuntu
[10:11] <El_gato_xD> no #ubuntu-es
[10:12] <El_gato_xD> ikonia: sorry for the other day
[10:12] <ikonia> ??
[10:12] <El_gato_xD> Virus
[10:12] <ikonia> I don't know you
[10:12] <El_gato_xD> I am virus
[10:12] <ikonia> ooh yes
[10:12] <ikonia> you
[10:12] <El_gato_xD> ye
[10:12] <ikonia> you will not be unbanned
[10:12] <El_gato_xD> sorry
[10:12] <El_gato_xD> please
[10:12] <ikonia> you said sorry last time and kept going
[10:12] <ikonia> you where given multiple chances and you kept going
[10:13] <ikonia> you will not be unbanned at this time
[10:13] <El_gato_xD> but becose I was testing a channel
[10:13] <El_gato_xD> but now I pass
[10:13] <Myrtti> says who?
[10:13] <El_gato_xD> sorry for my english
[10:13] <ikonia> I asked you to "stop testing"
[10:13] <El_gato_xD> now I never testing
[10:13] <ikonia> El_gato_xD: you should have stopped when asked, 
[10:13] <ikonia> and you where rude and offensive
[10:14] <El_gato_xD> ikonia: ok, permite me, and if I said the minimal stupid, you ban me for a life
[10:14] <ikonia> no
[10:14] <El_gato_xD> please
[10:14] <Myrtti> are we going somewhere with this discussion?
[10:14] <ikonia> Myrtti: for me no 
[10:14] <Myrtti> I thought so too
[10:15] <El_gato_xD> ikonia: you are not bad person
[10:15] <Myrtti> El_gato_xD: is there anything else? your question has been answered for now. ikonia, what you recon, when is a proper time for this case to be reopened?
[10:16] <ikonia> Myrtti: no
[10:16] <ikonia> Myrtti: I would say at least a month
[10:16] <El_gato_xD> ikonia: a month banned?
[10:16] <Flannel> El_gato_xD: At least
[10:16] <Myrtti> sorry
[10:16] <bazhang> at least
[10:16] <Myrtti> was there something else?
[10:17] <Myrtti> and no, whining, begging and threatening will not make this discussion go any further
[10:17] <Myrtti> nor bargainmaking
[10:17] <El_gato_xD> for december?
[10:18] <El_gato_xD> or for 2009?
[10:18] <elkbuntu> are you trying to upgrade it to a year ban?
[10:18] <Myrtti> atleast until December 9th, 2009
[10:18] <Myrtti> if I understood correctly
[10:18] <El_gato_xD> ok
[10:18] <El_gato_xD> I go to install tor
[10:18] <El_gato_xD> other ip
[10:18] <Myrtti> right
[10:19] <ikonia> ok bye
[10:19] <El_gato_xD> bye
[10:19] <elkbuntu> and i go to inform freenode that you're going to ban-evade. oh right, christel and other staffers are already here.
[10:19] <bazhang> tor?
[10:19] <El_gato_xD> hhahahHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!
[10:19] <bazhang> as in ban-evading?
[10:19] <ikonia> he's never getting back in 
[10:19] <Myrtti> yup
[10:19] <ikonia> just for the record
[10:19] <elkbuntu> nalioth, please shut down tor. please?
[10:19] <bazhang> wow
[10:19] <ikonia> he was inviting people to a channel called #virus then he had a bot waiting in #virus to spam/flood/attack them as they entered
[10:19] <elkbuntu> oh yuck
[10:19] <bazhang> nice.
[10:20] <Myrtti> isn't tor already banned in #ubuntu
[10:20] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, yes.
[10:20] <bazhang> !tor
[10:20] <Myrtti> lovely
[10:20] <elkbuntu> not from here though.
[10:21] <Myrtti> not from -ot either
[10:21] <ikonia> he was reported to freenode (nal) about the bot thing
[10:22] <elkbuntu> tomaw, still awake?
[10:23] <tomaw> It's 10:23 AM, so yes.
[10:23] <tomaw> I'll keep an eye on -es for as long as I am around
[10:23] <elkbuntu> can you just scan over the above exchange, it's about our spanish friend from #freenode -- he possibly was not so innocent
[10:24] <tomaw> aye
[10:24] <elkbuntu> can you like ban tor forever, kthxbai :P
[10:26] <Myrtti> there's some odd bans on -ot
[10:26] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[10:29] <bazhang> * zer0o (n=wtf@85-18-66-16.ip.fastwebnet.it) has joined #kubuntu  this ident OK?
[10:29] <ikonia> could be his name
[10:29] <ikonia> "walter thomas froo"
[10:29] <bazhang> haha
[10:36] <elkbuntu> wtf as a string is only relevent when someone knows what it stands for. i dont have any issue with it, generally.
[10:36] <elkbuntu> but, i know Myrtti hates it.
[10:37] <Myrtti> no, I have huge issues with rtfm and jfgi
[10:37] <Myrtti> wtf has to have a context to be understood
[10:38] <Myrtti> in an ident it doesn't have context
[10:38] <elkbuntu> precisely.
[10:38] <Myrtti> (and if you people knew how much I really curse in real life, you'd be shocked)
[10:40] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i wouldnt be. anyone who has met me knows i have a sailor's vocab.
[10:40] <Myrtti> hehe
[10:41] <Myrtti> cursing in IRC on the other hand grinds my teeth
[10:41] <bazhang> haha
[10:41] <Myrtti> I don't know when this change was introduced to my brain
[10:41] <elkbuntu> i cannot stand cursing in text either, hon.
[10:41] <bazhang> I get my cursing done in Taipei traffic
[10:41] <bazhang> all the taxi drivers...
[10:43] <Myrtti> I should reinstall my systems and I really CBA...
[10:43] <Tm_T> CBA ?
[10:43] <Myrtti> can't/couldn't be arsed
[10:44] <Tm_T> ah
[10:44] <Tm_T> why reinstall?
[10:45] <Myrtti> I've got a fresh new hard drive for my laptop (one reinstall), LaTeX on my home server is borked beyond repair (reinstall) and I'm fairly sure my desktop wouldn't update painlessly
[10:45] <Tm_T> ah
[10:45] <Myrtti> and
[10:45] <Myrtti> I want to start using apt-p2p
[10:46] <Myrtti> the article in dpotd was nice
[10:48] <Myrtti> bah, need to reboot
[10:48] <jussi01> Morning Alll!
[10:48] <bazhang> Hi!!!11
[10:49] <jussi01> @now london
[10:49] <Myrtti> OH SHUT UP
[10:50]  * jussi01 is now in Manchester
[10:50]  * jussi01 huggles Myrtti
[10:50] <jussi01> ':D
[10:56] <elkbuntu> so when are you coming to sydney :P
[10:57] <elkbuntu> i'm going to need to know with enough time to organise around work
[10:58] <Tm_T> Scorpions - Coming Home
[10:58] <jussi01> elkbuntu: not certain yet - Ill arrive in melbourne on thursday
[11:46] <Myrtti> BASTARDS
[11:46] <Myrtti> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=247
[11:48] <elkbuntu> ?
[11:49] <elkbuntu> Myrtti?
[11:50] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2960456269/
[11:50] <Myrtti> BASTARDS
[11:50] <elkbuntu> hahaha
[11:50]  * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti
[11:51] <Myrtti> you know what's the best part
[11:51] <elkbuntu> no?
[11:51] <Myrtti> They didn't have wifi in Lugradio Live, so I didn't use my laptop, so I didn't need to recharge it, so I didn't need that adapter.
[11:51] <Myrtti> BASTARDS
[11:51] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:52]  * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti again.
[11:53]  * Myrtti grumbles loudly
[11:54] <Tm_T> *sigh*
[11:56] <Tm_T> jussi01: like to make one favour for me?
[11:58] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: skirting around who? holymoo?
[11:59] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, yeah.
[11:59] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: I've never heard of him in my life :/
[11:59] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: does he use another nick?
[11:59] <Myrtti> I've kicked him from here gazillion times
[11:59] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, the guy who loved having 'fuckyou' as the ident. aka holycow, aka lots of other stuff.
[12:00] <PriceChild> ahh holycow
[12:00] <elkbuntu> yes.
[12:00] <elkbuntu> the serial pest who does nothing but bait ops wherever he goes.
[12:02] <PriceChild> has he been an issue in other channels?
[12:02] <Tm_T> indeed he has
[12:03] <Tm_T> whops, I had short fuse in #k
[12:03] <PriceChild> Tm_T: which?
[12:03] <elkbuntu> although, #kubuntu* is counted as 'ubuntu namespace', unfortunately
[12:03] <Tm_T> 1402.47 -!- shreedhar [n=shreedha@59.183.115.53] has left #kubuntu [requested by Tm_T: "no, that is NOT fun"]
[12:04] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, that nick is familiar for the wrong reasons.
[12:04] <Tm_T> indeed, I believe so
[12:04] <Tm_T> like to have his latest comments?
[12:04] <elkbuntu> sure
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1319.57 -!- shreedhar [n=shreedha@59.183.115.53] has joined #kubuntu
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1319.58 -!- shreedhar is "Shreedhar Manek"
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1336.50 < shreedhar> Wanna **** with me
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1337.32 < shreedhar> What
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1339.04 < shreedhar> Wanna **** with me
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1343.51 < shreedhar> **** Off
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1345.19 < shreedhar> See your girlfriend nude
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1400.41 < shreedhar> By F***ing your sister
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1400.53  * Dr_Willis wonders when the ops will Kick shreedhar
[12:05] <Tm_T> 1401.51 < shreedhar> When Dr. Willis F***s his mother
[12:05] <elkbuntu> riiiight. usual level of intelligence then, i see.
[12:05] <Tm_T> indeed
[12:06] <elkbuntu> there is no fuse short enough for that crap, imho.
[12:07] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I agree, but I did remove him before I realised this magnitude
[14:07] <ikonia> Tm_T: know user
[14:07] <ikonia> Tm_T: check fcuk in BT
[14:07] <ikonia> @ntlogin fcuk
[14:07] <ikonia> ops
[14:07] <ikonia> oops
[14:07] <ikonia> @bansearch fcuk
[14:08] <ikonia> same guy
[14:08] <ikonia> @btlogin
[14:11] <LjL> i've added a feature to the italian floodbots on request
[14:11] <LjL> see if you want it on ours too
[14:12] <LjL> when someone joins with a "Guest" nickname or changes nick to "Guest"something, the bot privmsgs them and asks to please change nickname, explaining that the nickname they've choosen was taken and they can use "/nick blah" to change it
[14:12] <ikonia> interesting idea
[14:12] <LjL> when they do change it, it says "ok, now you're advised to register your chosen nick on freenode, here are the instructions -"
[14:21] <ikonia> LjL: spanish translation please
[14:21] <ikonia> Los gatos no hablan, y menos cuando no estan en casa.
[14:21] <LjL> ikonia: cats don't speak, even less so when they aren't home
[14:21] <LjL> whatever that's supposed to mean
[14:22] <ikonia> how odd
[14:22] <ikonia> eyes on ubuntu - a user (the one who just sent me that in pm) is claiming he's ban evading using tor in #ubuntu
[14:22] <ikonia> as tor is banned I doubt it, but eyeballs open
[14:23] <LjL> if it's a proverb i can't understand what it's trying to say
[14:23] <ikonia> I have no idea
[14:23] <LjL> ikonia: join -proxy-users then
[14:25] <ikonia> he's not in there
[14:25] <ikonia> he claims he's already in #ubuntu (he's not)
[14:25] <LjL> ikonia: he might be. not *all* tor exit nodes are detected by freenode.
[14:25] <ikonia> I don't think he is
[14:25] <ikonia> he doesn't know anything thats been said in there
[14:28] <ikonia> Hmmm he's using the nick spider48014 and El_gato_xD
[14:28] <ikonia> just a heads up
[14:39] <ikonia> sparrow-jack1 in #ubuntu ?
[15:50]  * LjL points and laughs at ikonia
[16:04] <bazhang> why is mahen2 not kicked from -ot
[16:06] <bazhang> ah he is gone now
[16:58] <Myrtti> stupid Elisa
[17:09] <bazhang> heh
[17:09] <bazhang> after all those repeats he just quits
[17:11] <Myrtti> http://dy.fi/dbz
[17:11] <Myrtti> damnit
[17:12] <bazhang> whoa 520,000 users?
[17:12] <PriceChild> bazhang: where?/
[17:12] <bazhang> what is the population of Finland?
[17:12] <bazhang> PriceChild, Elisa isp in .fi
[17:13] <Myrtti> bazhang: a little over 5 500 000
[17:13] <Myrtti> atleast my mobile works
[17:13] <bazhang> that is like 10%?
[17:13]  * Myrtti grumbles and nods
[17:13] <bazhang> holy cow
[17:14] <Myrtti> note: that's how many clients were disconnected
[17:15] <bazhang> oh right
[17:15] <bazhang> so many more actual users
[17:18] <Myrtti> latest statistics tell 83% of the population uses Internet
[17:18] <Myrtti> 75% uses at home
[17:19] <Myrtti> that's 3.2 million
[17:19] <Myrtti> I'm so annoyed
[17:19] <Myrtti> Elisa is most probably the largest ISP here
[17:20] <bazhang> unbelievable
[17:20] <Myrtti> one server goes down, the whole country gets disconnected.
[17:20] <Myrtti> wonderful
[17:21] <Myrtti> I see now why the state bought Elisa shares from the Icelandic company before it went belly under
[17:21] <bazhang> ouch
[17:22] <Myrtti> well, anyway
[17:22] <Myrtti> the reason was national service securing
[18:13] <ikonia> LjL: what have I done to warrent a laughing at
[18:13] <nalioth> what's the command to build a deb from a .dsc file and source.gz ?
[18:14] <ikonia> nalioth: isn't there a script for it
[18:14] <nalioth> ikonia: it's dpkg-[something] file.dsc
[18:14] <nalioth> or i'm totally off course
[18:15] <jdong> nalioth: pbuilder build file.dsc
[18:15] <jdong> nalioth: or extract it with dpkg-source -x file.dsc
[18:15] <jdong> nalioth: cd into the directory and run "debuild" or "dpkg-buildpackage" with no arguments
[18:15] <jdong> you're probably thinking of the latter command
[18:19] <nalioth> grazi
[18:19] <jdong> sure thing :)
[18:23] <nalioth> jdong: after running dpkg-build* where would the deb be?
[18:23] <jdong> nalioth: in the parent directory with the .dsc file
[18:24] <nalioth> thanks again
[18:27]  * nalioth grumbles about packages and dependencies
[18:27] <nalioth> trying to get apt-p2p on my system
[18:28] <nalioth> (and no, i don't want to upgrade to intrepid for it)
[18:37] <Tm_T> err, what is this...
[18:38] <Tm_T> 2037.14 < boogaa:#ubuntu> then when resterated linux will be booted and instaleld
[18:38] <Tm_T> 2037.14 -!- Tm_T [i=tm_travo@ubuntu/member/kde.developer/jkekkonen] has left #ubuntu ["For Queen and Country!"]
[18:38] <Tm_T> bug in irssi ?
[18:40] <PriceChild> Tm_T: i don't get it?
[18:40] <Tm_T> when I parted from #ubuntu, I got those lines to my server window
[18:40] <Tm_T> only later one should have been there
[18:41] <PriceChild> closing the window before parting the channel, just a timing issue?
[18:41] <Tm_T> perhaps
[18:41] <Tm_T> never occured before though
[19:26] <Flannel> ikonia: 1550, actually.
[19:27] <ikonia> noted
[19:40] <Flannel> Not that it matters, of course.
[19:42] <ikonia> got to get my facts right
[19:54] <LjL> ikonia: you were warned by floodbot
[20:01] <ikonia> ah
[20:01] <ikonia> worth mocking
[20:10] <jrib> !alternate
[20:10] <jrib> anyone see the alternate cd on the http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download page?
[20:11] <Flannel> jrib: yeah, checkbox...
[20:11] <Flannel> er...
[20:11] <Flannel> where'd it go
[20:11] <Flannel> jrib: I guess you have the link on the right side
[20:11] <Flannel> There *used* to be an actual link
[20:12] <Flannel> er, checkbox
[20:12] <jrib> ah yes
[20:12] <Flannel> like a week ago
[20:12] <jrib> I was looking for the checkbox too
[20:12] <mneptok> jrib: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[20:12] <jrib> !alternate =~ s/8.04.1/8.10/
[20:12] <Flannel> there was a checkbox, and I wsa pleasantly surprised, since it all worked without javascript
[20:13] <jrib> !alternate =~ s/8.04.1/8.10/
[20:15] <Flannel> jrib: I always just go straight to the mirrors (releases.ubuntu.com)
[20:51] <ikonia> @btlogin
[20:57] <LjL> ikonia: stop replying to him please
[20:57] <ikonia> I'm "trying" to be official so he knows where he stands, I'm not communicating in pm with him
[20:57] <Curtis> ikonia why did you kick me out?
[20:58] <ikonia> Curtis: because you are persistantly offtopic
[20:58] <ikonia> how is hacking ps2 and illegal games anything to do with ubuntu
[20:58] <ikonia> as well you know
[20:58] <Curtis> i was asked to not speak about it then later when i am not talking in #ubuntu you kicked me out
[20:58] <ikonia> yes because you have had MANY warnings
[20:59] <ikonia> you know the rules
[20:59] <ikonia> yet you flaunt them
[20:59] <ikonia> enough
[20:59] <Curtis> oh shut up seriously you are not my father
[20:59] <ikonia> and now the disscussion end
[20:59] <Curtis> ikonia, do you plan on having kids?
[21:00] <LjL> that's not relevant to this discussion.
[21:00] <LjL> also, if you wanted ikonia to shut up about the reasons he kicked you, then you shouldn't have asked in the first place.
[21:00] <LjL> please tone down immediately.
[21:00] <Curtis> i just want to know if he is going to ever want kids that all
[21:01] <ikonia> Curtis: is there anything more related to the ban I can help you with or explain for you
[21:01] <Curtis> yes there is
[21:02] <Curtis> brb
[21:03] <ikonia> LjL: danke
[21:03] <Myrtti> what on earth is that about
[21:03] <Myrtti> that's like... absurd
[21:03] <ikonia> he's a know troll
[21:03] <ikonia> Myrtti: what's absurd ?
[21:04] <LjL> ikonia: i have this vague suspicion the "yes there is" would refer to his ability to evade the ban, so let's see how long it takes before he's in ##unavailable
[21:04] <Myrtti> [23:00] < Curtis> i just want to know if he is going to ever want kids that all
[21:04] <Myrtti> ^ HUH
[21:04] <ikonia> LjL: I disagree, based on past ubunt behaviour - it's normally time to do log faking
[21:05] <ikonia> hence why I refuse to talk to him in a pm 
[21:05] <LjL> Myrtti: probably related to <Curtis> oh shut up seriously you are not my father
[21:05] <ikonia> he's probably busy typing
[21:05] <Myrtti> LjL: well, yes, but still doesn't make sense
[21:05] <ikonia> although if you check Ban tracker you'll find he does have other IPS for when he's ban evading
[21:05] <LjL> Myrtti: of course it doesn't make sense, what were you expecting
[21:06] <ikonia> LjL: you are quick ! I'll give you that
[21:06] <ikonia> just refreshed BT 
[21:06] <Myrtti> LjL: considering my current mood, I'd expect the universe to make more sense... no wait, that's just wrong, I mean.
[21:06] <Myrtti> nevermind
[21:07] <LjL> Myrtti: ok
[21:07] <ikonia> Myrtti: cheer up
[21:07] <Myrtti> just realised I am feeling so absurdely out of my mind that I'm not really surprised
[21:07] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops Curtis
[21:07] <Myrtti> ikonia: oh, I am, very much so cheered up
[21:07] <ikonia> ahhh the windows staff have arrived
[21:07] <ikonia> hello HentaiXP 
[21:07] <HentaiXP> yo
[21:08] <Myrtti> "I'm having a bad feeling about this"
[21:08] <Myrtti> said Leia
[21:08] <ikonia> Myrtti: I thought that was han
[21:08] <ikonia> HentaiXP: what's up
[21:08] <Myrtti> was it?
[21:08] <Myrtti> oh, it's been years.
[21:08] <ikonia> Myrtti: yes
[21:08] <HentaiXP> hmm he didn't come?
[21:08] <LjL> HentaiXP: and went away already
[21:08] <Myrtti> the special edition is so horrible to watch I've not refreshed my memory in years
[21:08] <HentaiXP> ok
[21:08] <LjL> (no, he actually went away on his own feet, for now)
[21:09] <LjL> said "brb" though
[21:11] <HentaiXP> ikonia: came to see if curits was here
[21:11] <ikonia> well, been and gone
[21:44] <jussi01> Hello all!
[21:45] <ikonia> hello
[21:45] <ikonia> jussi01: all set !
[21:45] <jussi01> heya ikonia
[21:45] <ikonia> hey
[21:46] <jussi01> ikonia: Im still looking at options - I may drive down, depends how nice my boss is. 
[21:46] <ikonia> thats fine
[21:46] <ikonia> just let me know
[21:47] <HentaiXP> I'll take my leave back to windows
[21:47] <ikonia> HentaiXP: laters
[21:47] <jussi01> sure, Ill give you a call sometime tomorrow afternoon. 
[21:48] <ikonia> jussi01: do you have any special food/drink requirments ?
[21:48] <jussi01> ikonia: err... no. Im not alergic or vegetarian or anything :D
[21:48] <ikonia> just checking
[21:59] <jussi01> @bansearch freqk
[22:17] <jrib> !register > Spirits-Sight
[22:23] <Flannel> Do we have a stance on ubuntu tweak specifically?
[22:24] <jussi01> Flannel: what?
[22:24] <Flannel> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[22:24] <Flannel> Has anyone taken a look at it?
[22:25]  * jrib looks
[22:28] <LjL> Flannel: vaguely looks like it could even be something useful
[22:28] <LjL> whether or not we should yell against it would mostly depend how badly it does stuff
[22:29] <LjL> i'll give it an install
[22:29] <jrib> at first glance, just looks like a frontend to apt and gconf
[22:29] <Flannel> LjL: but also until we have a chance to evaluate, we shouln't condone it
[22:30] <jrib> downloads gedit tar.gz for some reason :/
[22:31] <Flannel> Parts of the code seem oddly familiar (automatix), but... that doesn't mean too much
[22:33] <LjL> Flannel: you mean that you've looked at the code and there's actually snippets from automatix?
[22:33] <LjL> Flannel: at any rate, there's definitely no valid reason to recommend installing it just in order to get virtualbox installed. that's pure nonsense.
[22:33] <LjL> jrib: what?
[22:34] <Flannel> LjL: Well, I have no idea if theyre word for word, I could do a diff... but they are familiar to me, and the only other python code Ive looked at is (auto|ulta)matix and supybot.  And supybot doesn't deal with packages ;)
[22:34] <jrib> LjL: there's a file that downloads a tar.gz of gedit if it's run directly.  It's probably left in there from debugging
[22:35] <jrib> ThirdSoft.py has about a dozen repos in there
[22:36] <ikonia> Flannel: I advise against it personally
[22:37] <Flannel> Yeah, I've definately seen this before (or at least, nontrivial parts of it)
[22:37]  * Flannel fires up diff
[22:37] <LjL> jrib: well they look mostly like ad-hoc repos for single applications each
[22:38] <ikonia> earliy versions caused real issues
[22:38] <LjL> still, i'd say it's almost completely redundant
[22:38] <ikonia> they seem to be better now, but I don't like the concept
[22:38] <LjL> it duplicates some GNOME options, add a couple (not even very many) switches for stuff available from gconf, acts as an APT front-end, and lets you enable that dozen 3rd party repos
[22:38] <LjL> doesn't thrill me
[22:39] <LjL> the cache cleaner is mildly interesting
[22:41] <LjL> at least they warn "it's a possible security risk" and to "be careful" when enabling third party repos
[22:54] <Myrtti> there.
[22:55] <Myrtti> new fresh xubuntu
[23:06] <LjL> methinks we'll get the third attempt shortly
[23:06] <LjL> indeed, indeed
[23:06] <LjL> !staff | exploits ongoing in #ubuntu and #gentoo
[23:07] <LjL> take bets that [00:04:52] [Whois] Ljungmann is n=m8@millenniumfalcon.bergsoe.dtu.dk (m8) is next?
[23:08] <tomaw> looks unlikely
[23:10] <nalioth> gah, i hate weekends
[23:11] <tomaw> I like weekends
[23:17] <nalioth> gah, i hate weekends ( too many kiddiez with free time and not allowed outside )
[23:20] <Flannel> nalioth: Why aren't they allowed outside?
[23:21] <LjL> hi quassel251, can we help?
[23:22] <Myrtti> looks like it's genii
[23:22] <Myrtti> or stdin
[23:23] <stdin> I don't use quassel
[23:23] <Flannel> Myrtti: Is there any way to get Xubuntu to not have crazy huge font sizes?
[23:23]  * Flannel tried Xubuntu, felt claustrophobic.
[23:23] <Myrtti> Flannel: crazy huge in where?
[23:24] <LjL> Myrtti: neither of whom are finnish to my knowledge :P
[23:24] <Myrtti> LjL: but that is jussi's server if I'm not totally mistaken
[23:24] <Myrtti> or something very very nearby
[23:24] <Flannel> Myrtti: Um, fonts... text editor maybe?  I don't remember.  It was just... arbitrarily large font sizes for some things.  Felt like I was using 800x600 when I had a resolution of 1280x1024
[23:24] <nalioth> Flannel: don't get me started
[23:25] <Flannel> nalioth: Perhaps we ought to start a "Go outside and terrorize your neighborhood instead" campaign
[23:25] <LjL> Myrtti: you're right
[23:25] <Myrtti> Flannel: atleast in xfce4-terminal the font is ridiculously huge, you're right on that
[23:26] <Flannel> Myrtti: Mightve been mousepad too
[23:26] <Flannel> but, I dont really remember.  It made my skin crawl so I stopped trying out Xubuntu
[23:26] <Myrtti> so it seems
[23:26] <Myrtti> sure there is a way to make the fonts smaller.
[23:31] <LjL> nalioth: are you aware that ubot3 joined #ubuntu-offtopic (at least) ten minutes ago?