[00:04] hiyaz ;) i did it, i finally got ubuntu on this laptop [00:05] what am i doing wrong for the installation manager to constantly insist i insert a disk with (20081028) in its title [00:05] ?? [00:05] :D [00:07] now i cant install flash [00:07] heych: go to system->software sources and uncheck the cd [00:10] kk TheSheep [00:24] So I have a ISO of a dvd movie i backed up a while ago, whats the best way to burn to a DVD-R to play on any dvd player? [00:31] I'm having a weird problem with my network applet not showing up for other user accounts until I log in with this account. [00:31] Any ideas? [00:31] In other words no one can get on the net until I get on the net. [00:31] It's connecting wirelessly. [00:43] hi, i think i installed compiz how do i run it? [00:44] have you tried something like compiz to see what comes up? [00:44] I'm not sure because I don't run it. [00:45] i typed compiz-fusion but just compiz on its own did something to my gfx just now [00:46] did it work? [00:46] um kinda its seems stopped but not prompt [00:46] i had a warning [00:48] oh now it finished back to the prompt all windows have lost borders [00:48] if i log of and back on u think it will be fixed? [00:50] or maybe dis-allow xfce to manage the desktop [00:54] heych: I don't know if you run gdm, then go to gnome ... it pretty much starts up but we run xfce here. [00:55] ok, thanks the-erm is just im a xubuntu noobee [01:03] i give up [01:03] been doin this since 3pm its now 1 am [01:12] i need to mount windows drivers to xubuntu... can anyone help me??? [01:12] !smbmount [01:12] Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount [01:12] !smb [01:12] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 [01:13] what kind of drivers? [01:13] Or are you referring to drives? [01:13] ntfs drivers [01:14] oh smb is the way to go then [01:14] how to install it in terminal? [01:14] !ntfs [01:14] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [01:14] !ntfs-3g [01:14] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [01:17] i can't seem to restore taskbar [01:18] i minimized firefox but can't maximize it... taskbar crashed [01:27] help!!! my taskbar panel isn't restoring on xubuntu... how to restore it??? i restarded xubuntu but thit not apear [01:28] Would that be the top panel, bottom panel, or both panels? [01:28] both [01:28] what happened [01:28] ? [01:29] i just want to restore them is this a way? [01:29] hit ctl-alt-F2, login, sudo xfce4panel start [01:30] That will restore the panels, then alt+f7 to get the desktop again [01:30] i used ctr-alt-F2 nothing happened [01:31] just the screen flickered [01:31] It never changed to the terminal screen? [01:31] no [01:31] That´s a bigger problem I can´t help with [01:31] try all the f keys though [01:31] sudo: xfce4panel: command not found [01:32] sudo xfce4panel start [01:33] sorry, try xfce4-panel [01:33] it's not working... [01:33] thank you it worked [01:33] welcome. good luck now [01:33] :-D [01:33] ok [01:36] i typed in terminal xfce4-panel but when i close the terminal the panel also crashes or disapears what is the problem? [01:37] i'm forced to keep the terminal opened [01:37] Try xfce4-panel stop [01:37] then xfce4-panel start [01:39] ** (xfce4-places-plugin:5571): CRITICAL **: xfce_panel_plugin_get_size: assertion `XFCE_IS_PANEL_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed [01:39] ** (xfce4-places-plugin:5571): CRITICAL **: xfce_panel_plugin_get_orientation: assertion `XFCE_IS_PANEL_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed [01:39] shaytan: say, do you have any free space on your disk? [01:40] i have [01:40] why? [01:41] strange things happen with panel when it runs out of disk space [01:41] shaytan: press alt+f2 and type xfce4-panel there [01:42] TheSheep it worked now but after restart how can i be sure it wont repeat? [01:43] shaytan: delete your saved sessions in .cache/sessions [01:44] shaytan: and when you log in next time, make sure you select 'xfce' as the session [01:44] TheSheep ok thanks [01:58] hello [02:00] please can somebody tell me can you mount a partition using the gui in xubuntu? [02:04] how do i mount a ntfs driver with samba??? [02:04] gotta get some dro [02:04] that's how [02:05] huh [02:05] you know what i mean [02:24] Anyone know a way to look at firewall or network settings to unblock a programs access [02:30] what is the GUI called for the netfilter firewall? [02:35] how would i change the shortcut alt + F8 (to hide/minimize a window) to a shortcut of my choice, or what would be the command to assign to a shortcut to minimize a window [03:06] hello [03:08] please can somebody tell me can you set xubuntu to mount file systems on internal hard drives automatically? [03:15] Hello, I was wanting to upgrade my 8.04 to 8.10 but the update manager doesn't give the option to upgrade versions. I did go thought and upgrade several individual files though. How do I do a full upgrade? [03:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades [03:22] thanks, wasn't sure if that was true for xubutu as well. The Xubutu page should really be changed then as it says it will prompt you. [03:28] thanks, worked great, updating now! [03:31] yep most of the times i just refer to the ubuntu stuff because it's more often updated [04:04] howdy yall [04:04] i've noticed myspace pages are resource hogs [04:05] Yep [04:05] any way to fix that? [04:05] Not that i've ever seen - they're just badly designed [04:06] thanks [04:06] are there better alternatives? [04:06] At least, every MySpace page i've ever visited has lagged, whether it's on my linux machine, my mac laptop, or my XP desktop [04:06] To MySpace? [04:06] yes [04:06] A lot of people seem to like Facebook, if you can stand their policies on storing your personal information [04:07] i guess the philosophy of myspace and xfce don't exactly go hand in hand [04:07] i'd rather not get too personal, no [04:08] later yall [04:43] What's the icon for the Places menu? A couple of drawers? [04:44] ball, I think so [04:44] yup [04:44] Thanks [04:49] Oh good, it's easy enough to add a program to the menu bar, complete with its own icon. [04:51] I just replaced Firefox with SeaMonkey [04:53] hello Halow [04:54] ball, yeah its all about the launchers... i find that locating the icons for the app can be tricky sometimes [04:56] Hello. I was wondering if I'm missing something to get Bluetooth working in Xubuntu. I'm normally an Ubuntu user, and wanted to know if I needed something else to work on pairing/unpairing while in Xubuntu. [04:56] Seems Bluez only really likes Gnome? [04:59] Halow, i'm not very familiar with bluetooth setup, but the wiki seems to suggest that it is the same as regular ubuntu [04:59] Is "Bluez" a piece of software? [05:00] ball, yes, its a bluetooth utilities driver [05:00] When I'm in Ubuntu, I get the little Bluetooth icon. It's about bubble says Bluetooth Applet (bluez.org). Most of the things it depends on are bluez*. [05:00] Under Xubuntu I don't see that icon in the notifican area (or equivalent thereof). [05:01] Halow, try running lsmod | grep blue to see if you have the kernel mods installed for bluetooth [05:01] it could be that you need to add that applet to your panel [05:03] Halow, I'm not sure if this page is relevant anymore, but it looks helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [05:04] How much is a Bluetooth dongle these days? [05:04] ball, should be really cheap, like $10 bucks [05:04] I spent $29.99 +tx/s&h for a a really tiny one. [05:05] dcolish: Can bluetooth headsets for mobile phones work with a PC? [05:05] ball, you should be able to pair any bluetooth product, headsets being just one [05:05] I was about to say... currently in Ubuntu now, and using one on Skype. [05:06] Wait, Skype is available for Linux? [05:06] Hmm... perhaps I should try that. [05:06] Hehe, yeah. [05:06] It's a pain in the rear to get working with my headset... but I can manage it. [05:06] Halow, what was so hard about it? [05:07] I'm cold. [05:07] I seem to have to restart Skype and run "sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart" often to get it not to error at me. [05:07] brb, QSY to front room [05:08] Usually after one successful call I have to unpair/repair, quit skype, restart bluetooth, restart skype. [05:08] LOL [05:08] I have a toddler, so not being tethered to the computer is fairly important. [05:10] Okay, brb for me too, then. Going to try that command in Xubuntu. [05:13] Hm... output is exactly the same: bluetooth 61924 11 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb [05:15] well thats a start, did you try sudo hidd --search yet? [05:16] I seem to have two home folders [05:17] hidd: command not found [05:17] hcitool scan works, though. [05:17] ball, i dont think thats possible? [05:17] Correction, I seem to have two home folder icons on my desktop [05:19] Halow, read the man page for that. you should be able to connect with that tool. also double check that you dont have to add a bluetooth applet or something [05:19] If I hover over them, one says 'Desktop configuration file' and the other says 'Folder' [05:19] ...not sure which to delete [05:20] on the command line goto ~/Desktop [05:21] I'm there [05:21] ...now what? [05:21] do an ls in that folder and see what is actually on your desktop. anything with a .desktop ending is a desktop launcher file [05:22] okay, I have one file there ending in .desktop [05:22] and it is named? [05:22] doris.desktop [05:23] is that your home folder too? [05:23] dcolish: I couldn't use that guide to connect, as it wanted a "hidd" command to do so. Also, when I check Applications>System>Services, bluetooth is checked. [05:24] dcolish: I don't know ...probably. [05:25] Halow, right, but if you run man hcitool you can see how to use that tool. also please check to see if there is an applet for it by right clicking on the panel and searching the add dialog [05:25] Will cows fall from the sky if I delete that? [05:26] ball, probably not [05:26] hello perforate [05:26] hey [05:26] no problems today just hangin' out looking for tips [05:27] Should Xfce have a trashcan / recycle bin somewhere? [05:28] starting to get the hang of xubuntu, also just turned a chemistry major onto it [05:28] dcolish: Nothing in add to panel about bluetooth (though there is one for Trash). [05:28] ball^ [05:28] I just formatted her dell and put xubuntu onto it [05:29] hello silverdulcet [05:29] Halow, ok, um is there anything under xfce menu -> settings manager? [05:29] ball: hello [05:29] Not that I can see immediately. Let me look further. [05:29] ok [05:29] Oh wierd, I have a "no entry" sign bottom right on my screen. If I hover over it I see 'failed to connect to trash' [05:30] ball: hmm... try "sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart" and/or "sudo /etc/init.d/fam restart" [05:31] ball: otherwise, see if a logout, or reboot solves it... [05:34] hello Ahmuck [05:34] Odd-rationale: I may try that. [05:35] hi ball [05:35] I have a strange nfs problem. When mounting an nfs share on my xubuntu box, when mounted is owned by hplip and group mysql, I am unable to write to it. On my ubuntu box mounted nfs shares are owned by haldaemon group netdev. Any idea why? [05:36] silverdulcet, check the mount point ownership [05:36] brb, rebooting [05:36] dcolish: its owned by my username, under my home directory... [05:37] silverdulcet, you can always try a chown [05:37] I've sort of worked around it. I added my username to the mysql group and I'm able to write to the share. Just wondered why the permissions change to hplip/mysql instead of haldaemon/netdev [05:38] dcolish: doesn't work, permission denied. [05:38] you need to do that as sudo [05:39] dcolish: I did that as well. Before the nfs share is mounted its owned by me, after it changes to hplip/mysql. [05:39] how are you mounting the nfs share? [05:41] dcolish: its in my fstab, host:/path/to/share /home/username/mountpoint nfs noauto, users,hard,intr [05:41] then just mount /mountpoint [05:43] dcolish: the exact same fstab entry works perfectly on my ubuntu install. [05:44] dcolish, Nothing in there that I saw relates to bluetooth, although I did notice that PulseAudio isn't working on this side. Hm... [05:44] rebooting didn't help [05:44] ball: do you have a ~/.local/share/Trash/ directory? [05:45] ball: and are you running thunar? [05:45] Thunar is running. [05:46] yes, I have a ~/.local/share/Trash [05:47] hmm... what version of xubuntu? [05:47] ball: ? [05:48] I don't know, let me check. [05:49] ball: `uname -a` [05:49] whoops wrong one.. [05:49] `lsb_release -a` [05:50] Ubuntu 8.04.1 (with xubuntu-desktop added) [05:50] ...and configured to be the new default. [05:50] ball: can you access the trash from thunar? [05:51] yes [05:51] ball: try removing the one in the panel and adding it again... [05:53] Odd-rationale: the new one exhibits the same problem. [05:54] hmm. i really dunno then... the next thing i would try is delete the ~/.cache and ~/.config directories... but i'm not sure you want to go that far... [05:55] trying that. [05:56] then log out once your done... don't save the session. [05:56] Trying that now [05:59] Odd-rationale: do you happen to have any nfs shares mounted, can you tell me whether they are owned by haldaemon/netdev or hplip/mysql. [05:59] silverdulcet: hmm... well tbh, i had a similar issue with sshfs... [06:00] silverdulcet: can you browse the mount point from the command line? [06:00] Odd-rationale: thats funny, sshfs mounts are owned by hplip/mysql but doesn't deny me write permissions as nfs does. [06:01] weird.... i don't have much experience with nfs... [06:01] I was just looking for what the standard ownership of nfs mounted shares should be. [06:02] Odd-rationale: what do you mean browse from the commandline? [06:02] silverdulcet: cd /mountpoint; ls [06:02] touch file [06:02] etc... [06:03] Odd-rationale: oh yeah, reading the share is no problem, it just doesn't give me write permissions unless I'm part of the mysql group. On ubuntu its there aren't these permission problems. [06:04] Odd-rationale: what exact problems did you have with sshfs? [06:05] silverdulcet: i could read/write from the command line, but could not open the mount point in thunar... [06:06] Odd-rationale: that might happen if you just added yourself to the fuse group, then relogged in, within your terminal window but not your entire X session. [06:07] oh, i see... well i don't use thunar any more so... [06:18] anyways, i'm heading to bed. night all! [06:18] Goodnight Odd-rationale [07:18] hello [07:20] why does the update manager keeps offering my to upgrade software i didnt even install ? totem player for example... [07:48] hi [07:55] burim: totem is installed as a default in xubuntu [07:56] you can safely remove it if you wish [08:07] the only thing related to totem that i have installed according the the synaptic package manager is the libtotem-plparser12 package, and if i remove it it tells me i must remove a bunch of other programs, rythmbox, gnomegames etc. [08:08] can i permanently ignore certain updates ? i dont wanna install totem nor remove the depended programs [08:14] how to enable the right alt key from the terminal? [08:33] I would like to install xubuntu 8.10 on to a 2000 iBook (FireWire) using "xubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc.iso". I have to do a USB install because dozens of attempts using burned CD's have failed. I was able to install Debian using a USB drive, but for that I was able to find a very small business card iso that could fit on to the 239 MB partition that "Copying the files — the easy way" at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/inst [08:33] The reason the boot partition ends up being only 239 MB is because that is the size of the img file in boot.img.gz. I can't do the same process with xubuntu because xubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc.iso is 627 MB in size. I have tried doing "Copying the files — the flexible way" but I have not been able to get it to work, so I would prefer to use "the easy way". Can the size of the img file be expanded so that the resulting [08:35] Knock, knock. Is there anybody home? [08:42] well you can use the netinstall method if you have decent internet connection [08:44] debian netinstalls were too big, and I haven't seen any xubuntu net installs, just desktop and alternate [08:48] the reason i want to try xubuntu is because debian doesn't seem to like my iBook's video card and I can't get any GUI. I've heard of others getting ubuntu on to iBooks so I'd like to try it. [08:52] currently I have four apple made, laptop shaped paperweights [08:58] there is netinstall image that lets you select which distro you are installing [08:58] I've installed xubuntu that way [08:59] oh? where can I get it? [09:00] ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/ [09:00] i think its the netboot thing [09:01] ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ [09:02] if you want 64 bit [09:04] hmm, no ppc support from hardy, but I'm not surprised because I'd heard ubuntu support for macs is on the way out, but I did find gusty, and it's deffinately small enough [09:05] thanks for suggesting it [09:05] yeah you are rigth there seems to be no netinstall images for powerpc === Snyper is now known as Snyper` [10:04] im having hell trying to install xubuntu on an old abit BP6 board that has a HPT366 controller on it, it was all working fine till i upgraded to 8.10 and after afew issues i ended up having to format [10:05] now i cant get it working... i pop my 8.04 livecd in and the install seems togo just great and then i reboot and it cant find the root device [10:06] ive searched and searched and tried everything ive read on the forums.. [10:08] also what i find weird is that this copy of xubuntu i made in july boot just fine.. ive download and burn 8.04 alt, home, server, 8.10 alt, home, server and none of them will boot [10:09] they all lockup right after detecting the HDD and cdrom [10:11] also might add that everything works just fine after i install it on the HPT366.. then unconnect the drive and put the drive on ide1 [10:24] good morning [10:24] installed it again letting it do the partitions and no luck either [10:24] morning krio [10:25] i have a 7.04 kubuntu version on my old computer [10:25] a pentium 3 933 whit a256 mb of memory [10:26] the question is a good idea change it for xubuntu 8.10? [10:26] i personally had issues with 8.10 [10:27] id wait afew weeks / month before moving to it [10:28] if you want xubuntu you can get it by doing apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [10:28] i think thats the right package [10:29] but xfce4 does run alittle smoother than kde on old systems [10:30] but xface4 it is easy to menage like kde 3.5? [10:30] the way xubuntu is setup yes [10:31] you can use both though if you like [10:32] on a 7.04 version?? [10:32] yes [10:33] let me say what [10:33] sorry for my english [10:34] i mean say me how [10:35] they are just desktops on top of ubuntu [10:36] so if you want xubuntu just install the xubuntu-desktop [10:36] using synaptic? [10:36] yes [10:37] ok, but how can i change it? [10:38] better.. how can i choose the different desktop? [10:43] just switch the session [10:44] at the login screen [10:44] ok i'll try later [10:45] thanks [10:48] and see you [10:50] hi [10:51] I've got a problem with sound in Xubuntu [10:51] <- first time xubuntu user [10:52] drivers weren't loaded automatically for my soundcard, so I had to add the module to /etc/modules [10:52] but now I only get sound if I run the app in question with sudo! [10:52] (tried Opera webbrowser, aumix, alsamix, etc) [10:52] all work fine with sudo, all don't work without [10:53] do I need to add my Xfce user to some 'audio' users group before I get access to the soundcard? [11:00] hello anybody here? [11:03] I am [11:03] frank_xubuntu: yes, but the first user should be automatically in the audio group [11:04] TheSheep: that's odd, as I currently don't get sound with the first (and only) user [11:04] TheSheep: unless I use sudo [11:05] can I view the group's I'm in with 'groups' in a terminal? [11:05] frank_xubuntu: what does 'ls -ald /dev/dsp' show? [11:05] frank_xubuntu: with 'id' [11:06] it shows a file owned by root in group audio [11:06] frank_xubuntu: can you copy-paste the line? [11:06] seems like I'm not in group 'audio' [11:07] frank@nostalgia-linux:~$ ls -ald /dev/dsp [11:07] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2008-11-09 11:40 /dev/dsp [11:07] ok [11:07] then just add yourself to that group [11:07] maybe it didn't add you to audio because there wasn't any soundcard :/ [11:07] ah [11:07] there was, but for some reason xubuntu didn't load the module [11:08] it's a SB16 even.. most popular soundcard ever? [11:08] so it thought there wasn't [11:08] yeah [11:09] isn't it like... from Precambr or Carbon or some time then? [11:10] do I need to reboot before I can access the soundcard? [11:10] I just added myself to the 'audio' group [11:10] but it't not working yet [11:10] no, just log out and log in back [11:10] TheSheep: but everyone tells me that linux runs better than Windows on old hardware.. so I decided to give it a go? [11:11] hence I chose for a lightweight distro [11:11] frank_xubuntu: it certainly has more drivers for old hardware than vista [11:11] better doesn't mean perfect [11:11] ah but who needs vista when it runs XP great [11:11] was just wondering if xubuntu would run better on it [11:11] and if I could get AIGLX to work on the matrox G400 on that box [11:11] the up side is that it usually doesn't break once you set it up [11:12] should it? :) [11:12] the down side is that setting it up is sometimes hard, and it may break on upgrade [11:13] ok be right back.. trying a log-off / log-on cycle [11:15] great [11:15] now it's working [11:16] anyway, I install a linux distro once in a while to see the state of desktop linux [11:17] (once every 1 or 2 years) [11:17] so this time it was Xubuntu's turn [11:17] frank_xubuntu, how did you end up testing xubuntu? [11:18] well my spare hw isn't really up to the bloatware that most distro's are these days [11:18] X) [11:18] they can compete with these windows installs from OEMs that load them up with all kind of crappy addware, shareware, etc [11:19] that fill up all your ram and slow it down to a crawl [11:19] at least Xubuntu is nice and light-weight [11:21] w00t, even adobe's craptastic flash is working in xubuntu [11:22] sure [11:22] ok next step is to get AIGLX working on my G400 [11:23] so I can try compositing [11:26] and enabling my mouse thumb buttons [11:27] why don't those work by default? weird... === TeXnicer_ is now known as TeXnicer === TeXnicer is now known as TeXnicer|en_rout === TeXnicer|en_rout is now known as TeXnicer|mobile [11:41] ok vidcard driver and mouse thumb buttons is for another time. [11:41] thanks for the help! [12:28] Hi [12:32] hello tony_ [12:41] Hi [12:42] any ideas on Flash video on a G3 imac running Dapper? [12:42] hi guys [12:43] does anyone know how can i make my tiny little xfce icons. on the desktop and in the folders, a bit bigger? where is that setting? [12:45] tony_, what exactly are you asking? [12:46] jim_p, sorry...i dont have an answer [12:47] I have an imac with Dapper installed. I can not get gnash to install. Are there any other ways I can view Flash sites? [12:47] Like youtube. [12:47] tony_, first....get a supported version of ubuntu.... [12:48] second, install the flash-nonfree (multiverse) instead of Gnash [12:49] upgrading to newer version may get Gnash to work for you...since there have been great improvements in the last 2 years [12:49] tony_, actually...dapper may still have support left.... but i'd upgrade anyway [12:50] Anything past Dapper wont install on these old imacs, [12:50] once the desktop support cycle runs out, you will have to upgrade to Hardy [12:50] tony_, why not? [12:51] When I try to compile from source (gnash) it has dependencies that I cannt get. [12:51] tony_, dont use gnash [12:51] use the flash player from adobe [12:52] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [12:52] When I try to install Fiesty or Intrepid etc the install goes through (using the alternate cd ...live doesnt work) [12:52] and boots up then shuts off. [12:52] tony_, what part of "UPGRADE" are you missing? [12:52] that flash is for X86 not ppc [12:52] update-manager -d [12:53] tony_, that flash is for linux...not arch-specific [12:54] id wait on 8.10 [12:55] or install on another partition [12:55] the plug-in should work for ppc, i386, and 64-bit [12:55] but is processor specific. [12:56] Adobe does not port for ppc processor for Linux [12:56] I wish it was that easy. [12:56] so you tried it already and it failed? [12:57]