[00:28] <frozenskunk> Any one have any ideas on how to get a CommandIR mini to transmit under 8.10? I have it receiving commands just fine, but I cant get it to transmit at all...
[00:49] <backslasher> I have digital audio on my motherboard...I have it directly connected to my yamaha.  I have no sound, I don't see anywhere in the settings to muck with the sound settings, any ideas?
[01:12] <ajhtwolf> anyone know of a way to use a different player than the default one to watch live tv?
[05:36] <renjith> Hi All
[05:37] <renjith> Is there a channel named #mythtv-users?
[05:37] <renjith> but i didn't find
[05:38] <hads> Yes
[05:38] <renjith> where i can ask about building mythtv source code?
[05:39] <hads> Here if you like but you might find more help in #mythtv-users
[05:39] <renjith>  <hads> : ok, i build the mythtv source code successfully.
[05:40] <renjith> but when i execute mythtv-setup i got the following error
[05:40] <renjith> mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythavformat-0.21.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:40] <renjith> i did, ./configure
[05:40] <renjith> make -j 2
[05:40] <renjith> make install
[05:44] <superm1> it sounds like you probably have binary packages installed too
[05:44] <superm1> or possibly partially installed
[05:44] <superm1> or the build failed
[05:44] <renjith>  <superm1> : i did not get any error while building.
[05:45] <superm1> renjith, can you confirm then whether or not you have any binary mythtv packages installed?
[05:46] <renjith> no am pretty sure. i downloadede the mythtv source code.
[05:47] <planeracer> hi all
[05:47] <superm1> renjith, but i'm saying before you downloaded, did you install libmyth* or mythtv-* on your system.
[05:48] <superm1> renjith, it sounds like not though, so what's the ldd output look like for the mythtv-setup binary?
[05:48] <planeracer> i have 8.041 ver. im geting lot of frezing, any way to fix that
[05:48] <planeracer> ?
[05:49] <superm1> freezing like hard freezing?
[05:49] <superm1> or skipping
[05:50] <planeracer> sametimes for a 1min some 5 sec
[05:50] <planeracer> some
[05:51] <superm1> check dmesg afterward for kernel oops
[05:51] <superm1> and check all your hw then for defects
[05:51] <superm1> particularly run a memory check over night
[05:52] <planeracer> 1 did memory chech for 18 hours
[05:52] <planeracer> no errors
[05:53] <planeracer> an other think it does recordings by it self
[05:53] <superm1> huh?
[05:53] <planeracer> i think that 2 thinks related
[05:54] <superm1> i'm not understanding what you are saying. can you please retype the above in a coherent sentence?
[05:55] <planeracer> i saying frezing and recording maybe relayted problems
 : i forgot to modify the /etc/ld.so.conf
[06:10] <renjith> that was the issue
[06:10] <renjith> now its ok
[06:11] <renjith> but again struggling, when i execute mythtv-setup "upnp" not found. what should i do to solve this?
[08:17] <markwaters> this is more of a hardware issue than an ubuntu issue , but here goes
[08:17] <markwaters> here is my 2 card setup
[08:17] <markwaters> http://photoblog.weloveit.info/?p=839
[08:18] <markwaters> its in a tower case so the cards are normally horizontal
[08:18] <markwaters> and of course they get warm
[08:18] <markwaters> should I use a fan to blow some air around and keep the a bit cooler ?
[08:19] <markwaters> how about reversing the cpu fan to blow air towards the cards ?
[11:03] <TheBlasphemer> I've recently installed a mythbuntu frontend in my own student room, but unfortunately I still have an old pre-HDTV PAL TV which only does 720x576
[11:03] <TheBlasphemer> Does anyone know what themes or visual settings work best on such a display?
[11:03] <TheBlasphemer> With the default settings a lot of menu options are cut off :/
[11:04] <TheBlasphemer> (e.g. "Watch recordings" is just "Watch")
[11:33] <laga> TheBlasphemer: adjust overscan in the nvidia drivers or in mythfrontend
[11:43] <TheBlasphemer> laga: I'm using a via videocard, and the screen isn't actually cut off, rather the text is
[11:43] <TheBlasphemer> it wraps to the next line, but as it's only one line, you only see some lines from the top part of the text ;)
[13:05] <Beaker_> !help
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[13:19] <Beaker_> hi all
[13:19] <Beaker_> just a quick question
[13:19] <Beaker_> I have a nova T-500 card and have struggled to get it working in mythbuntu 8.04
[13:20] <Beaker_> downloading 8.10 as i speak - anything I need to know? - Works out the box?
[13:20] <Beaker_> thanks in advance
[14:47] <Seeker`> Beaker_: works fine for me. What problems did you have with 8.04?
[14:51] <Beaker_> hi
[14:51] <Beaker_> went through the tutorials etc
[14:51] <Beaker_> parker1.co.uk
[14:51] <Beaker_> just didn't get very far
[14:51] <Beaker_> did it work out of the box?
[14:55] <ali1234> use mythbuntu
[14:55] <Beaker_> yup
[14:55] <ali1234> installing all the packages manually is not worth it
[14:56] <Beaker_> tried - took a long time and failed
[14:56] <Beaker_> i am using mythbuntu
[14:56] <ali1234> so what does not work?
[14:56] <Beaker_> didn't recognise the card
[14:57] <Beaker_> i read there are extra drivers requires
[14:57] <Beaker_> *required
[14:57] <ali1234> what card is it?
[14:57] <Beaker_> nova t-500
[14:57] <Beaker_> hauppage
[14:57] <ali1234> oh god
[14:57] <Beaker_> exactly
[14:57] <ali1234> there's about 500000 different versions of that card
[14:57] <Beaker_> i heard
[14:57] <Beaker_> mine is not diversity
[14:57] <Beaker_> it's a dual usb channel thing - pci card
[14:59] <ali1234> well first you need to figure out if it is even supported
[14:59] <Beaker_> worked through the lists @ parker1.co.uk
[14:59] <Beaker_> very useful
[14:59] <Beaker_> first of all I couldn't scan for channels
[15:00] <Beaker_> but after installing loads of updates / drivers and firmware
[15:00] <Beaker_> it would let me but didn't find anything
[15:00] <Beaker_> I was wondering if any support is built into 8.10
[15:00] <ali1234> do you have a driver then
[15:00] <Beaker_> that might make it easier to get going
[15:01] <Beaker_> parker1 lists libs and firmware with download locations
[15:01] <ali1234> so which one are you usingh?
[15:01] <Beaker_> nova T-500
[15:01] <Beaker_> but not diversity
[15:02] <Beaker_> dual tuner
[15:02] <ali1234> and where did you get it from?
[15:02] <Beaker_> it's a pci card but is recognised as usb
[15:02] <Beaker_> pc workd
[15:02] <Beaker_> *world
[15:02] <Beaker_> I'm in the UK
[15:02] <ali1234> no. which driver did you download, and where did you download it from?
[15:03] <Beaker_> don't want to waste your time mate
[15:03] <Beaker_> as I'm not in front of it
[15:03] <Beaker_> I will try 8.10
[15:03] <Beaker_> and feedback my findings
[15:03] <Beaker_> thanks a lot for your help mate
[15:04] <ali1234> did you have to compile the drivers, or just supply firmware?
[15:05] <Beaker_> I downloaded a firmware file
[15:05] <Beaker_> 1 sec
[15:05] <Beaker_> will find the url
[15:05] <ali1234> i think i found it
[15:05] <ali1234> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI
[15:05] <Beaker_> http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_novafw.php
[15:05] <ali1234> the firmwares will unfortunately probably never ship with ubuntu
[15:06] <ali1234> so keep it in a safe place
[15:06] <Beaker_> right ok
[15:06] <ali1234> as for tuning
[15:07] <ali1234> there is an option which reads like "no timeout while tuning" you might want to enable it
[15:07] <Beaker_> ok cool
[15:08] <ali1234> if that doesn't work, know that mythtv tuning is sometimes a bit flaky
[15:08] <ali1234> try to use the console dvb-utils
[15:08] <ali1234> someone here can probably help you with that when you are at the machine
[15:08] <Beaker_> great thanks
[15:08] <Beaker_> I have seen a lot of into regarding this:
[15:08] <Beaker_> options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
[15:08] <Beaker_> - boosts the signal
[15:08] <Beaker_> options usbcore autosuspend=-1
[15:08] <Beaker_> - stops it from going to sleep thereby giving the disconnects.
[15:09] <Beaker_> I also heard that the new kernel has better support for this card
[15:09] <Beaker_> or support at least?
[15:09] <ali1234> it seems it does
[15:09] <Beaker_> hence thinking upgrading to 8.10 might help
[15:09] <ali1234> yeah, it can;t hurt
[15:09] <Beaker_> sure
[15:09] <Beaker_> ok - thanks a lot for your help!
[15:10] <Beaker_> I'll report back
[15:25] <Seeker`> I recently installed a nova t-500 on ubuntu 8.10 and it worked out of the box, with no requirements to install drivers
[15:26] <Seeker`> I plugged it in, told it to do a full scan and it picked all of the channels up fine
[15:26] <Beaker_> wow!
[15:26] <Beaker_> mythbuntu?
[15:28] <Ahmuck> hi.  i'd like to use a ip security camera with mythbuntu.  where do i start looking for documentation and compatible cameras?
[15:39] <Seeker`> Beaker_: plain ubuntu
[15:39] <Seeker`> Beaker_: sudo apt-get install mythtv
[15:39] <Seeker`> Beaker_: that got most of it
[15:39] <Seeker`> Beaker_: But that takes more work than mythbuntu to get it setup
[15:39] <Seeker`> I previously had it working OOTB with mythbuntu 8.04
[15:40] <Seeker`> again, pretty much plug and play
[15:53] <ali1234> so i'm want to do a dist-upgrade, but i'm being warned about the nvidia legacy problem
[15:54] <ali1234> i need the binary driver for my display set up (nv will not display anything at all)
[16:48] <Th3Blasphemer> Gah
[16:49] <Th3Blasphemer> I've been rebuilding my diskless clients all the time
[16:49] <Th3Blasphemer> Wondering why my clients didn't do anything
[16:49] <Th3Blasphemer> only to find out that I was working on an amd64 box
[16:49] <Th3Blasphemer> while I wanted i386 clients
[16:49] <Th3Blasphemer> and forgot the --arch i386 all the time :/
[18:07] <Ahmuck> hrm, i wonder if that is my problem on ltsp server
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> Ahmuck, re the cameras, you should start looking at the zoneminder website
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> since mythzoneminder is the plugin you would use for ip cameras
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> it just uses zoneminder as the backend
[18:28] <Seeker`> why cant you make calls from mythphone to external sip addresses?
[19:54] <Daviey> Seeker`: sure you can't?
[21:10] <Seeker`> Daviey: I think thats what the wiki says, and I cant see the dialer
[21:11] <Seeker`> but i'm probably being blind
[21:11] <Daviey> Seeker`: you need the SIP URI
[21:36] <Seeker`> Daviey: I mean I cant see where you enter it
[22:03] <Daviey> Seeker`: hmm, i had the same problem - but i found it using a keyboard
[22:03] <Daviey> note, i don't use mythphone anymore
[22:03] <Daviey> but i did find it
[22:04] <Seeker`> heh
[22:04] <Seeker`> is it obvious?
[22:04] <Seeker`> or is it a phone with an actually hidden diial function?
[22:06] <Daviey> hidden.
[22:06] <Seeker`> ah, thats useful
[22:06] <Daviey> you have to pre add the contacts
[22:07] <Seeker`> eww
[22:21] <giver> hello,can anyone help? need to restore xorg,edited graphics options in mythbuntu control center and now can't have a higher resolution of 600
[22:39] <giver> ok,solved it,restred xorg to normal
[22:49] <noii> I'm having remote control problems. it used to work under a mythtv installation, but now i have added mythbuntu only the basic keys (arrows) work
[22:51] <noii> i can type numbers from my remote (nova T 500)  into a terminal window - so it's almost like the desktop environment lirc is overriding the mythtv one - anyone seen this before?
[23:02] <Seeker`> noii: Have you just upgraded to 8.10?
[23:03] <noii> yes
[23:03] <noii> upgraded to 8.10 and then added mythbuntu
[23:03] <Seeker`> I think it might be because X is grabbing control of the remote before lirc manages to get holdof it
[23:03] <noii> sounds about right
[23:03] <noii> how would i change that?
[23:03] <Seeker`> so it thinks it is a keyboard not a remote, and therefore can only handle the keys that are present on keyboards
[23:04] <Seeker`> one sec
[23:05] <Seeker`> http://test.pastebin.com/d58b0e439
[23:05] <Seeker`> try putting that in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/10-remote.fdi
[23:06] <Seeker`> I think you'll need to reboot after
[23:06] <Seeker`> thats what worked for my brothers computer
[23:07] <gig>  I am trying to install mythbuntu....when it starts it goes to a screen that says busybox... initramfs buffer i/o error dev sr0.... and stops
[23:12] <ali1234> gig: bad cd or iso
[23:15] <Seeker`> noii: any good?
[23:16] <noii> Seeker: just trying
[23:17] <giver> anyone using ubuntu mythtv with an skywalker-1 here?
[23:21] <noii> no change
[23:21] <noii> that seems like the right explanation though
[23:21] <ali1234> actually, X is quite capable of interpreting all the remote keys. unfortunately mythtv cannot, due to a deficiency in the qt libs it is based on. lirc is just an amazingly long winded work around for this problem.
[23:22] <noii> ah
[23:22] <ali1234> isn't nova t 500 pci?
[23:22] <noii> not sure
[23:23] <ali1234> well, is it usb?
[23:23] <wolfspirit> is it possible to install 8.04 mythbuntu packages on 8.10?
[23:23] <wolfspirit> possible as in.. may not break anything else..
[23:24] <ali1234> wolfspirit: not really no
[23:24] <wolfspirit> 8.10 installation broke my bluetooth remote and I'm wondering if it's lircd
[23:25] <ali1234> noii: try: cat /sys/class/input/*/name
[23:25] <noii> i think it's a usb interface internally, but the ir receiver just plugs into the card using some other connector
[23:25] <noii> IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver
[23:27] <Seeker`> ali1234: Nova T is 500, it is 2 USB cards in a PCI package
[23:27] <wolfspirit> anyone else have the sony BD remote and lost connectivity to it after the 8.10 release?
[23:27] <Seeker`> noii: did you reboot before trying the remote?
[23:28] <Seeker`> woops, that should read "NOVA T-500 is both"
[23:28] <ali1234> wolfspirit: did you try to re-pair it?
[23:29] <ali1234> actually, is it even possible to permanently pair those things now?
[23:29] <noii> Seeker`: yes, but i'm wondering if i pasted in some junk while creating that fdi file, i'll try another reboot
[23:29] <Seeker`> noii: pastebin the file you have?
[23:30] <wolfspirit> ali1234: as much as I know how.. I tried various other how to's, played around with the configs, and even edited the source code a bit for the bdremoted daemon that talks to lircd and still nothing.. I'm not too sure what's going on with it.. bdremoted loads fine and lircd seems to connect to it just fine but irw has zero output
[23:30] <gregL> wolfspirit: Was there a how to you used to set up your bluetooth remote?
[23:30] <gregL> If so where?
[23:31] <Seeker`> noii: next thing to try is "irw" in a console and see if it picks stuff up from the remote
[23:31] <wolfspirit> gregL: yeah and it worked with 8.04 but as soon as I went to 8.10 it no longer works  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Sony_PS3_BD_Remote
[23:31] <noii> yeah, just rebooting, before irw was giving me nothing
[23:32] <gregL> ok thanks i have a remote,i would like to get to work...Thanks
[23:32] <wolfspirit> gregL: that how to didn't work directly.. I had to dive into the author of the drivers blog to piece together my own way of getting it working
[23:32] <noii> i wonder on the off chance if wolfspirit and i are having a related issue?
[23:32] <wolfspirit> noii: what is yours?
[23:33] <gregL> Ok thanks for the info i will keep that in mind...
[23:33] <noii> broken remote after upgrade to 8.10
[23:33] <wolfspirit> noii: is it bluetooth?
[23:33] <noii> mine's not bluetooth though, so may be completely unrelated
[23:33] <wolfspirit> noii: does your irw just sit there yet lircd runs fine?
[23:33] <noii> yes
[23:33] <wolfspirit> annoying
[23:34] <giver> guys ,new with linux,are all updates necesarry to be installed ?
[23:34] <wolfspirit> giver: for the most part I would assume they are feature enhancements, bug fixes, and security fixes so it's probably a matter of opinion
[23:34] <wolfspirit> noii: have you gotten anywhere on it?
[23:35] <giver> ok,just didn't now ,I will install all anyway
[23:35] <ali1234> wolfspirit: cat /sys/class/input/*/name
[23:35] <noii> just following advice from seeker`
[23:35] <ali1234> do you see your remote?
[23:37] <noii> Seeker`: after another reboot my remote has stopped working completely - but this might well be progress
[23:38] <noii> Seeker`: now i've stopped X grabbing my remote keys as keyboard commands i can go back and fix all the stuff i broke in other bits of lirc setup
[23:38] <wolfspirit> ali1234: not with that.. but if I do an hcitool scan it picks it up (this is bluetooth not ir)
[23:40] <ali1234> wolfspirit: that's a different problem then
[23:42] <wolfspirit> ali1234: well the problem with my problem :)  is that it involved bluetooth AND lircd.. so it could be both but I'm assuming it's lircd
[23:45] <ali1234> wolfspirit: try to get it working with cakemote, that does not involve lirc at all
[23:45] <Seeker`> noii: what did you screw with?
[23:46] <noii> Seeker`: woot! going back and removing the crap i'd added to hardware.conf and now it's all working again. that fdi fix worked a treat
[23:46] <noii> i had changed the event number
[23:46] <wolfspirit> ali1234: the cakemote script works but I don't know what to do after that.. do you know where a guide is to incorporate cakemote into other programs like myth?
[23:47] <Seeker`> noii: cool
[23:47] <Seeker`> noii: Do you find the event number varies at all?
[23:48] <ali1234> wolfspirit: cakemote produces a fake input device. the rest of the set up is similar to that of the remotes that come with most usb receivers
[23:48] <noii> Seeker`: i don't think it has in the past, it was showing 3 or 4 earlier today, but now it's back to 6
[23:48] <Seeker`> noii: you can fix it
[23:49] <wolfspirit> ali1234: I thought it just showed me what buttons I was pressing or at least that was the impression I got.. do you have an example of how I would use that?
[23:49] <noii> great - all my buttons are back. although strangely when i adjust the in myth volume, no volume change happens
[23:49] <noii> the slider goes down, but the system volume stays the same
[23:50] <ali1234> wolfspirit: it should create a new device in /dev/input as well but maybe that is a different version of the script. xorg should pick it up automatically using hal. but mythtv wont understand most of the buttons
[23:50] <Seeker`> noii: You may have to change the volume control to change master rather than PCM in the mythfrontend setup
[23:50] <wolfspirit> ali1234: have you done this before?
[23:51] <ali1234> wolfspirit: i have spent a long time fighting mythtv with various remote controls.
[23:51] <ali1234> i never got it to work satisfactorily - i just use a keyboard
[23:51] <Seeker`> noii: putting
[23:51] <Seeker`> KERNEL=="event*", ATTRS{name}=="IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver", SYMLINK+="input/dvb-ir"
[23:52] <Seeker`> into the bottom of /etc/udev/rules.d/85-lirc.rules
[23:52] <Seeker`> it will fix the remote to use /dev/input/dvb-ir
[23:52] <wolfspirit> ali1234: is cakemote the python script you are talking about?
[23:52] <noii> Seeker`: ah ok, and then add that to hardware.conf?
[23:52] <ali1234> wolfspirit: yes
[23:53] <wolfspirit> ali1234: I have it running and it says pres any key to test the remote and I did a cat on the input devices but don't see it there
[23:53] <Seeker`> noii: yeah, change hardware.conf to point to /dev/input/dvb-ir
[23:53] <ali1234> wolfspirit: it has a funny name, not cakemote or bd remote, something like "uinput device"
[23:54] <wolfspirit> ali1234: the one I'm using is remote-version0.1.py
[23:55] <ali1234> wolfspirit: maybe that is the version that uses xte
[23:56] <noii> Seeker`: hmm, seems to have broken things. do i need to reboot?
[23:56] <Seeker`> noii: yeah
[23:58] <wolfspirit> ali1234: hmm I just found http://www.paranoidgnome.com/?p=9  maybe I will give that a try
[23:59] <wolfspirit> ali1234: though I put a decent amount of work into getting lirc to work before  :P
[23:59] <Seeker`> noii: any luck?