[00:51] <KingOfDos> Someone here that can give me a suggestion about a SoundBlaster 1024 Live when i'm using Alsa? I can't find the propper input device from console.
[01:04] <jmarsden> KingOfDos: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:08] <spiritssight> Is they any one willing to assist in helping with setup a server for a non-profit if so please PM me
[01:09] <spiritssight> I am hoping a person in the US so it would be easer to talk then to try and type
[01:11] <jmarsden> spiritssight: I suggest reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html and then asking a more specific question to the channel?  Your questions could mean you need a few days of (unpaid?) consulting (!), or that you have one specific issue you would like help with...
[01:14] <spiritssight> Ok, I am asking for someone that is willing to setup a server for the non-profit from the install to the making sure the domain works with the system, and yes sadly it would be unpaid as the non-profit does not have any money and I don't either, this is why trying to setup a server on a computer I have instead of paying for one and seeing we need a little more then what is allowed on cheap accounts we are going this rout
[01:16] <KingOfDos> jmarsden: i'm trying to record/stream from a TV card with vlc. i have to give vlc a proper v4l-adev, but don't know what input is a specific type (the internal cd_in or aux_in for example)
[01:17] <KingOfDos> I had found some information in /proc/asound/Live/pcmXX/info (where XX is something like 1c, 2c, 2p, etc).
[01:23] <zul> spiritssight: you might get more traction with your local linux users group or emailing the ubuntu-server mailing list
[01:23] <antihc3> I just installed server and everything went verywell but then i loged out and relogged in now it says i am not in the sudo list 0_0
[01:26] <antihc3> any suggestions how to edit sudo file now
[01:27] <spiritssight> Is it a good idea to use LVM for one harddrive
[01:28] <spiritssight> 55 gb harddrive
[01:28] <KingOfDos> jmarsden: the sount itself is working. i'd checked it with vlc and some mp3 file. that plays nice.
[01:28] <KingOfDos> but i just cannot find the right input for my recording/streaming
[01:32] <spiritssight> I am doing a install with out doing any parts just to get a feel for the install the I will reinstall again :-)
[01:32] <spiritssight> oops thats was not for here :-)
[01:32] <spiritssight> Still looking for help throw
[01:42] <antihc3_> is there a list of groups that the first user is a member of after server install
[01:43] <jmarsden> antihc3: Yes, the admin group is the one you care about.  WHat does     grep ^admin /etc/group    output?
[01:47] <antihc3_> jmarsden, admin:x:114:
[01:47] <antihc3_> yea i was playing with useradd and messed up my groups
[01:48] <jmarsden> antihc3_: Hm, so there is noone in your admin group.
[01:48] <jmarsden> Can you boot into recovery mode and fix things from there?
[01:51] <antihc3_> that is where i am now
[01:51] <jmarsden> KingOfDos: vlc... on a server?? This has gone from being "about a SoundBlaster 1024 Live" to being about vlc, I think...
[01:52] <KingOfDos> cvlc ;)
[01:52] <jmarsden> antihc3_: sorry, I need to go AFK for a while.  Back in 20 mins or so... bad timing...
[01:52] <KingOfDos> console version. but that's not my question. i've got the TV card working, but just no audio.
[01:53] <KingOfDos> connected the audio_out from my tvcard to the cd_in at my soundblaster.
[01:53] <KingOfDos> and there is audio on that cable (tested it with a headphone and a few wires), so that's not the problem.
[01:54] <KingOfDos> i just don't know what device i can use for the actual recording
[01:55] <antihc3_> jmarsden, thanks i did usermod -a -G admin
[01:55] <KingOfDos> i'd tested it with /dev/snd/pcm* (one by one) as adev (audio input device for vlc)
[01:56] <KingOfDos> even changed the connector from cd_in to aux_in, and others. this makes no effect. checked the alsamixer for it's volumes, thats also correct.
[01:57] <spiritssight> jmarsden: I pm you
[02:24] <lukehasnoname> Can I manage samba shares through SWAT?
[02:39] <jmarsden> lukehasnoname: What happens when you try?
[02:40] <lukehasnoname> All I see are "Home, Status, View, Password
[02:40] <lukehasnoname> "
[02:41] <lukehasnoname> none of those pages allow to create shares
[02:41] <lukehasnoname> that I see
[02:48] <jmarsden> lukehasnoname: Are you logged into SWAT as a user with the privs to create new shares??  I used SWAT ages ago, but not under Ubuntu... will try installing it here and seeing how that goes...
[02:50] <lukehasnoname> ah yes, you're right
[02:51] <lukehasnoname> I'll try root and get back to you.... but right now it's CTF time across campus
[02:52] <jmarsden> CTF?  Call The Firebrigade?  What??  Anyway, OK... :-)
[02:55] <lukehasnoname> capture the flag
[02:55] <jmarsden> lukehasnoname: Ah, OK!  Have fun!
[04:10] <CarlFK> at the end of u-server install, I have a dialog "installation is complete.  you need to restart... (Restart no)"
[04:10] <CarlFK> mouse is not working, and I can't seem to hit the button with the keyboard
[04:11] <jmarsden> CarlFK: Try the TAB key to move around and the Press Enter to press the button once it is highlighted?
[04:12] <CarlFK> treid that.  it is the only dialog/button, so not much to tab to
[04:13] <jmarsden> And Enter won't work?  Odd.  CAn you Ctrl-Alt-Del ?
[04:16] <CarlFK> well, I am connected via vnc to a vm - sending C-A-D didn't
[04:17] <jmarsden> CarlFK: Then just issue some sort of reboot command to that vm?
[04:18] <CarlFK> i don't have access to that :)
[04:18] <CarlFK> box is at a friends house.  Ill have to disturb his teevee watching....
[04:19] <jmarsden> You don't have a way to reboot your own VM?  ... Ah, well... then you can wait until his TV programme is finished, or risk his anger and beig disturbed :-)
[04:34] <CarlFK> oh brother.  it wasn't the u-server cd...
[04:35] <jmarsden> Guessing... You reinstalled Ubuntu on the hardware, thinking it was a VM??
[04:37] <CarlFK> heh
[04:37] <CarlFK> no - restarted the VM, and I have gnome.
[04:37] <jmarsden> Ah, OK... so you're all set for some remote computing fun :-)
[04:37] <CarlFK> I was wondering about the new options on the u-server cd menu
[04:38] <CarlFK> there was some confusion as to what .iso to get
[04:39] <CarlFK> im trying to test some x64 stuff, and I don't have a good x64 box to test on
[04:39] <CarlFK> I have my laptop, but I don't really want to kernel panic it (which is a result of what I am testing)
[04:41] <jmarsden> Well, I guess you can now download the right ISO to your virtual desktop, export it to somewhere on the underlying real machine's filesystem, then build another VM using that ISO?
[04:42] <CarlFK> that sounds like work :)
[04:43] <CarlFK> Ill make an ssh tunnel to my box, ssh back though the tunnel, and crash the vm
[04:45] <CarlFK> actually, working with gnome-term over vnc isn't terible
[05:13] <CarlFK> where is a good place to put a one line script to run on boot, before any gui comes up? ssh -R 2222:127.0.0.1:22 sshd.personnelware.com
[05:13] <hads> As root or a standard user?
[05:14] <CarlFK> standard
[05:14] <hads> Probably in cron @reboot
[05:14] <CarlFK> ohh... heard of that
[05:14] <CarlFK> ﻿@reboot happens at the begining?  I would have guessed as part of the shutdown
[05:22] <jmarsden> CarlFK: Do man 5 crontab to check :-)
[05:23] <CarlFK> jmarsden: thanks.
[05:23] <CarlFK> hmm, if the script doesn't return.. is cron ok with that?
[05:26] <jmarsden> CarlFK: I'm not sure... can the script do ssh -R 2222:127.0.0.1:22 sshd.personnelware.com &    # So it returns but leaves the ssh process running?
[05:27] <CarlFK> wtf.. ssh is somehow causing a gui dialg to come up asking for my pw so it can do key exchange ?
[05:27] <CarlFK> oh.. create the keyring...
[05:27] <CarlFK> hmm.
[05:31] <CarlFK> yeah, looks like this work:  make_tunnel.sh &
[06:34] <mylogic> anyone recommend any particular irc bouncers for ubuntu server?
[08:34] <kraut> moin
[09:37] <frith> sorry to ask here, i am trying to benchmark a number of servers, bonnie++ give me a good disk performance measuring stick, but what can i use for cpu and memory performance?
[10:13] <KingOfDos> moin. does someone know a method to "fake" the ALSA driver? i want a seperate "stream" for each input instead of a /dev/dsp witch I cannot use from VLC (VLC is NOT supporting ALSA on a "working" way)
[10:14] <KingOfDos> so for example, a pseudo-driver that will redirect all the audio from the aux_in to /dev/soundcard1/aux_in
[10:31] <stka> hi
[10:38] <stka> I like to get saslauthd using ldap as mechanism I configured /etc/defaults/saslauthd as followed http://phpfi.com/376133 /etc/saslauthd.conf looks like this http://phpfi.com/376134. When I start saslauthd with "/etc/init.d/saslauthd start" sasl is not working. Wenn I start saslauthd over cli with "saslauthd -d -a ldap -r -V" everything works fine. So what did I forgot?
[11:01] <stka> solution --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cyrus-sasl2/+bug/138931
[11:24] <francesco___> hello how i find my mac address ?
[11:25] <ascent> ifconfig shows it
[11:25] <francesco___> no...
[11:25] <ascent> unless it's unsupported/unrecognized.
[11:25] <francesco___> wait its Hwaddr???
[11:26] <ascent> yes
[11:26] <francesco___> ok
[11:26] <francesco___> ;)
[11:31] <francesco____> how i see my assigned ip address?
[11:31] <ascent> ifconfig
[11:32] <francesco____> no really this 1 not show ..
[11:32] <francesco____> lol
[11:32] <francesco____> no yes
[11:33] <francesco____> but
[11:33] <francesco____> is strange
[11:33] <francesco____> i m connected with wifi
[11:33] <francesco____> for to see it i must type iwconfig???
[11:34] <francesco____> but iwconfig do not show it against ifconfig yes.. why ?
[11:34] <Deeps> iwconfig will show you the wireless configuration setting, e.g. what access point your connected to, what speed you're synced at, signal strength, etc.
[11:34] <francesco____> ok
[11:34] <Deeps> it wont show you your IP settings
[11:34] <francesco____> ok
[11:34] <Deeps> ifconfig does that
[11:35] <francesco____> ok so all interfaces are in ifconfig , and iwconfig is the configuration of wirless
[11:35] <Deeps> yep
[11:36] <francesco____> thx .. ascent i sorry for befor if i said no... lol
[12:03] <_ruben> ifconfig is ancient, ip ftw
[12:13] <moo---> :O
[12:13] <moo---> noo
[12:14] <moo---> you don't take away my ipconfig, do you?
[12:14] <moo---> ifconfig
[12:17] <francesco____> hello how can be that the password in my terminal is wrong ??
[12:17] <francesco____> if i type su
[12:17] <francesco____> then passowor say me... authentication falied
[12:19] <_ruben> !sudo
[12:19] <_ruben> dont use su
[12:19] <Gargoyle> yeah, sudo -s is much better! :)
[13:21] <scientes> do i need the server kernel to be a xen Dom0
[13:21] <scientes> ?
[13:44] <_ruben> samba .. firefox .. eh? :p
[14:25] <TrioTorus> In openldap, the posixAccount objectclass provides the loginShell attribute, but it is not mandatory. If no loginShell is given how does ubuntu handle that? In my new setup, such a user gets /bin/sh as loginshell, isn't that a tad dangerous?
[14:28] <andol> TrioTorus: Perhaps I'm slow today, but how is that dangerous?
[14:28] <sommer> TrioTorus: /bin/sh is a sybolic link to dash
[14:29] <sommer> by default anyway
[14:29] <TrioTorus> well, shouldn't it default to /bin/false if no loginShell is provided?
[14:30] <andol> TrioTorus: Now I see your point.
[14:30] <andol> TrioTorus: Not sure if I agree thought :) In my world the default state of an account is active, so setting /bin/false is something which should be actively done
[14:33] <TrioTorus> andol: yes I follow that too, but my opinion is that a default should be at least set (either /bin/false or something else) but I was surprised to see that I get /bin/sh when loginShell is not specified at all.
[14:35] <TrioTorus> when using openldap
[14:38] <TrioTorus> you could argue that it is the responsibility of the script you use to specify a loginshell for a new user account, but if even openldap doesn't think loginShell is a mandatory attribute for a posixAccount, the system's fallback for that shouldn't be /bin/sh  -  I'm thinking.
[14:45] <CarlFK> is there a u-x64 channel?
[14:46] <CarlFK> or.. why does bash crash: echo hi foo>x.sh; chmod u+x x.sh; ./x.sh  = malloc: ../bash/dispose_cmd.c:241: assertion botched; free: called with unallocated block argument
[14:50] <_ruben> because its invalid code perhaps, should crash tho
[15:25] <CarlFK> if I accedenly installed u-desktop, how can I disable gdm from starting?
[15:26] <CarlFK> without doing apt-get remove ... don't feel like waiting
[15:30] <sommer> CarlFK: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[15:34] <CarlFK> sommer: thanks
[15:35] <nealmcb> anybody know the status of alfresco in ubuntu?  I see this announcement about the partner repository - why partner?  I thought it was GPL.  http://www.ubuntu.com/news/alfresco-enterprise-content-management
[15:35] <Omahn> kirkland: I'm just testing the hardy-proposed packages for degraded RAID and I'm guessing that after replacing a failed disk in to the md, I'll need to re-run grub-install /dev/md, is this correct?
[15:38] <kirkland> Omahn: yes, that's true
[15:38] <kirkland> Omahn: we've discussed a wrapper tool that would do this
[15:38] <Omahn> kirkland: No problem. I'm guessing that's something that will be included in the documentation anyway.
[15:38] <kirkland> Omahn: but for now, it's manual
[15:38] <kirkland> Omahn: exactly
[15:38] <Omahn> Oh, cool, that's even better.
[15:38] <kirkland> Omahn: i discussed with sommer at some point ;-)
[15:39] <Omahn> It all seems to be working for me so far. Testing in VMware at the moment but I'm hoping to get some physical hardware to test on tomorrow.
[15:40] <Omahn> Hmm. Seems my testing in VMware isn't going to be particularly valid. WS6.5 is taking the second disk and changing it to sda on power on when the first disk is removed.
[15:41] <kirkland> Omahn: i'd be interested in your experience
[15:41] <kirkland> Omahn: all of my testing has been in KVM
[15:41] <Omahn> kirkland: No problem, I'll be posting in the bug report, hopefully sometime tomorrow on the VMware tests and later in the week for physical, assuming I can get my hands on some.
[15:42] <Omahn> kirkland: What's the delay on boot when one of the disks is missing? Seems like a long time.
[15:42] <kirkland> Omahn: 3 minutes, in Hardy
[15:42] <kirkland> Omahn: 30 seconds, in Intrepid
[15:42] <kirkland> Omahn: it's annoyingly long, in my opinion'
[15:42] <Omahn> kirkland: Any way of reducing it in Hardy? ;-)
[15:43] <Omahn> kirkland: I rebooted the first couple of times.. :-)
[15:43] <Omahn> kirkland: A spinner, or anything really, to the screen would be useful.
[15:43] <kirkland> Omahn: hmm, you could hack /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local
[15:44] <kirkland> Omahn: search for "slumber"
[15:44] <kirkland> Omahn: then you'd have to re-run update-initramfs
[15:44] <Omahn> kirkland: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[15:44] <kirkland> Omahn: it somewhat invalidates the testing I'm requesting, though ... :-/
[15:45] <Omahn> kirkland: ha, no problem, I'll just stick with the standard test case for now. BTW, I've tested everything successfully bar the kernel options. (which I'll be testing in the morning)
[15:45] <kirkland> Omahn: wow, thanks dude!
[15:47] <Omahn> kirkland: No problem. ttfn.
[15:49] <nijaba> nealmcb: there are 2 versions of alfresco.  The community version is GPL, the enterprise version is not
[15:49] <nijaba> nealmcb: I believe the PR refers to the enterprise version
[15:50] <nijaba> nealmcb: feel free to package the community version, we'll gladly put it in universe ;)
[17:17] <zul> mathiaz: what do you think about an SRU for samba to move to 3.2.4 for intrepid?
[17:17] <mathiaz> zul: which bugs are fixed by 3.2.4?
[17:18] <zul> probably alot of the winbind crashes i have gone through them yet
[17:19] <zul> i can put it on the agenda for the meeting tomorrow though
[17:20] <mathiaz> zul: sure
[17:20] <fbond> Hi, is 64-bit kernel + 64-bit userspace stable these days?  Would I be better off with 64-bit kernel + 32-bit userspace (assuming I don't need >2GB memory for any given process)?
[17:21] <ascent> I'd pick 64bits
[17:22] <fbond> ascent: 64-bit userspace?  Any particular reason?
[17:23] <Nafallo> 128-bit isn't here yet? ;-)
[17:23] <ascent> I'm running quite a few debian servers with 64 bits OS, never had problems with it. Since ubuntu is a derative, I'd feel godo using 64 bits ubuntu as well
[17:23] <fbond> ascent: Okay, thanks.
[17:23] <ascent> I don't see the point of using 32 bits on 64 bits hardware anymore
[17:23] <fbond> I'm mostly concerned about userspace bugs due to bad assumptions about pointer arithmetic, etc.
[17:23] <ascent> never had 64 bits related issues
[17:24] <ascent> OK, well, 'm not into it that much but from my experiences, I'm happy with 64bits
[17:24] <ascent> NBot a programmer myself however :)
[17:24] <Nafallo> start running 32-bit and later decide to add a service that needs lots of memory... good luck keeping your userspace intact without going through evil hops of cold fire!
[17:25] <Nafallo> the safe bet is 64 ;-)
[17:26] <fbond> Okay, thanks.
[17:47] <nealmcb> nijaba: the press release notes both the labs and the enterprise version.  http://www.alfresco.com/products/networks/compare/ says this about both enterprise and labs: "100% Open Source "  so I'm still puzzled about why it would be in partner - especially the first "labs" version which is called "GPL" elsewhere on their site.  Here is an update.  http://forums.alfresco.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13934
[17:49] <jmarsden> nealmcb: alfresco used to use a weird modified licence that was not officially "open source", but I think they recently switched to GPL?
[17:49] <nealmcb> jmarsden: ahh - could be...
[17:50] <jmarsden> There was a lot of fuss about tehir claiming to be "open source" but not really being such... but I think that is all past history now...
[17:50] <nealmcb> that would be good material for their wikipedia entry
[17:51] <jmarsden> Looks like they changed in Feb 2007, so not exactly a recent change... http://opensource.osdir.com/node/109.html
[17:53] <sandstrom> How can I allow hostname lookups (eg. host yahoo.com) through my firewall using UFW?
[17:55] <samuraipenguin> ufw allow 53
[17:56] <samuraipenguin> 99.9% of dns queries are UDP, but, tracking down a fix for that .1% makes it worth leaving 53/tcp open as well.
[17:56] <sandstrom> thanks. I'll try
[18:07] <sandstrom> I think my server is somehow setup to run hostname lookups on another port than 53. How can I see which port a process is attempting to use?
[18:09] <samuraipengui1> hostname lookups are extremely tiny, but netstat -ant should let you see active connections.
[18:13] <jmarsden> sandstrom: If you have ufw turned on, logically, do   sudo ufw logging on   and then read the log?
[18:14] <fbond> Is 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace supported by Ubuntu Server?
[18:14] <sandstrom> sounds logical yes. I didn't know about the logging but will look at it
[18:15] <jmarsden> sandstrom: ufw help shows the basic ufw commands :-)
[18:16] <sandstrom> I'm new. Thanks!
[18:19] <sandstrom> jmarsden: stupid question, but where can I see the log?
[18:20] <jmarsden> I'd guess /var/log/messages -- I don't use ufw on this machine...
[18:21] <sandstrom> it's empty
[18:22] <jmarsden> sandstrom: I just tested it here... /var/log/messages just like otehr iptables firewalling solutions.
[18:22] <jmarsden> sandstrom: DO something you know your ufw rules will deny, then grep -u ufw /var/log/messages
[18:23] <jmarsden> if /var/log/messages is *empty* on a Ubuntu server ... are you sure syslogd is running properly??
[18:23] <sandstrom> I do "host yahoo.com" which timesout when the firewall is enabled. Then I look in /var/log/messages and see some "MARK…" but nothing else.
[18:23] <sandstrom> no, I'm not sure
[18:26] <jmarsden> sandstrom: OK, so do  sudo ufw deny proto tcp to any port 12345   and then    telnet 1.2.3.4 12345  and then grep UFW /var/log/messages
[18:26] <jmarsden> There should be lines with "[UFW BLOCK INPUT]:" in them.
[18:28] <sandstrom> nope
[18:29] <sandstrom> this is the content of /var/log/messages: http://pastie.org/311544
[18:30] <jmarsden> This is a real Ubuntu server installation?  It's very odd to see so little in there...
[18:32] <jmarsden> Does    sudo /sbin/iptables -L -v | grep LOG    output some rules including the string "UFW BLOCK" ?
[18:33] <samuraipengui1> jmarsden: i have a LAMP/mail server, and i've got nothing but MARK and syslogd restarts in /var/log/messages for the last 20 days, since it booted.
[18:34] <jmarsden> Interesting, I get all kinds of stuff in there on my servers...
[18:37] <NickBee> Guys, need help with network configuration ... am a newbie on linux
[18:37] <NickBee> i had managed to set up the networking right, and the server has been running for 3 months now when i had to reboot it
[18:37] <NickBee> and the network is down again
[18:37] <NickBee> I am able to ping localhost
[18:38] <ascent> that's the downside of reboots, you'll lose connection for a bit ;)
[18:38] <NickBee> but thats it, can't ping anywhere else
[18:38] <ascent> so, what's the error youget?
[18:39] <NickBee> it takes forever to return from ping
[18:39] <ascent> dns failure?
[18:39] <ascent> tried pinging an ip?
[18:40] <NickBee> pinging to ip says: Host unreachable
[18:41] <ascent> default route set OK ?
[18:41] <ascent> and, dou you even have an ip ?
[18:41] <ascent> besides 127.0.0.1
[18:41] <NickBee> i am not sure about route
[18:41] <ascent> which most of us will have
[18:41] <NickBee> but yes, it has a static IP
[18:41] <ascent> is it set?
[18:41] <NickBee> yes, i checked the inerfaces file and it seems ok
[18:42] <NickBee> ubuntu is running as a VM
[18:42] <NickBee> and i am unable to ping even the host
[18:43] <NickBee> before reboot, everything was fine
[18:43] <samuraipengui1> check ifconfig -- is the network interface up?
[18:43] <NickBee> yes
[18:43] <ascent> you rebooted the domu or the dom0?
[18:43] <NickBee> domu/dom0 ?
[18:44] <ascent> host or client os?
[18:44] <NickBee> both
[18:44] <ascent> and is the host connected to the internet?
[18:44] <NickBee> yes
[18:44] <ascent> only the client has trouble?
[18:44] <NickBee> yup
[18:44] <ascent> what's the ip you see in the clients ifconfig?
[18:44] <jmarsden> sandstrom: I think ufw does not log *output* packets it blocks...
[18:45] <sandstrom> that might be it
[18:45] <NickBee> i see the correct IP
[18:45] <sandstrom> I've tried to use isof -i to find the port
[18:45] <NickBee> i.e. 216.245.223.251
[18:45] <jmarsden> sandstrom: if you do   sudo ufw default enable    does the host lookup then work OK?
[18:46] <ascent> nickbee: and it's statically set ?
[18:46] <sandstrom> with ufw default allow it works
[18:46] <NickBee> yes
[18:46] <ascent> what does your route tabel look like?
[18:46] <jmarsden> sandstrom: That's what I meant, my mistake.  OK.  So let's add a logging rule for the output packets...
[18:47] <NickBee> can't copy paste from the v machine
[18:47] <NickBee> let me try to tell
[18:47] <NickBee> first entry
[18:48] <NickBee> dest: 216.245.223.248
[18:48] <NickBee> gateway: 0.0.0.0
[18:48] <NickBee> genmask: 255.255.255.248
[18:48] <NickBee> Flags: U
[18:48] <NickBee> Metric: 0
[18:48] <NickBee> Ref: 0
[18:49] <NickBee> Use: 0
[18:49] <NickBee> Iface: eth0
[18:49] <NickBee> Line 2
[18:49] <NickBee> Dest: 0.0.0.0
[18:49] <NickBee> Gateway: 216.245.223.249
[18:49] <ascent> can you ping that ip ?
[18:49] <NickBee> Genmask: 0.0.0.0
[18:49] <ascent> that gateway?
[18:49] <ascent> 216.245.223.249
[18:50] <NickBee> oh, can't ping the gateway
[18:50] <NickBee> dest host unreachable
[18:50] <ascent> but from your host you can? or perhaps, that's the ip of the host?
[18:51] <NickBee> nope, thats not the IP of my host
[18:51] <ascent> but can the host ping that ip ?
[18:51] <NickBee> yes
[18:52] <NickBee> network from host is fine
[18:52] <NickBee> and thats the same gateway as set on host
[18:52] <ascent> what does the bridge config look like, on the host?
[18:52] <NickBee> host is windows server 2003
[18:53] <ascent> And damn to all of you for having popcorn and a coke and just sit back and relax while I'm debugging my ass off ;)
[18:53] <NickBee> where to check brige config?
[18:53] <ascent> So, can you verify the bridge?
[18:53] <ascent> I don't know. Never played with win2k3
[18:54] <NickBee> hmm..
[18:54] <NickBee> the machine has 2 network cards
[18:54] <NickBee> from the faint memory i have, i think the problem was that ubuntu was trying to acess the internet  from the card which was meant for local machine
[18:54] <NickBee> for Intranet i mean
[18:55] <jmarsden> sandstrom: Maybe we can use tcpdump to see what is happening... try   tcpdump -i any udp &  and then do host yahoo.com and see what tcpdump outputs?
[18:55] <sandstrom> trying…
[18:56] <ascent> brb, dinner
[18:56] <NickBee> Ok
[18:57] <NickBee> guys anyone having some spare time/energy to debug a network issue ;)
[18:58] <sandstrom> jmarsden: this is the output: http://pastie.org/311573
[18:59] <jmarsden> sandstrom: OK... now do sudo ufw default allow and then host yahoo.com and see what the tcpdump output says then... at the moment you're just not getting anything coming back in at all...
[19:00] <NickBee> Figured it out .... thanks!!!
[19:06] <sandstrom> jmarsden: sorry for the delay. here we have it: http://pastie.org/311573
[19:14] <jmarsden> sandstrom: I don't understand this... is 192.35.82.50 (fsdata.se) your nameserver?
[19:15] <sandstrom> yes
[19:15] <sandstrom> thats likely
[19:15] <sandstrom> it's a VPS
[19:16] <jmarsden> Maybe you can try    ufw allow from 192.35.82.50
[19:16] <jmarsden> It's not exactly the "right" approach to this, but it might work :-)
[19:17] <sandstrom> jmarsden Cool that did the trick. Thanks a million!
[19:18] <jmarsden> No problem... as long as noone on that nameseer machine attacks you the firewall will still do its job :-)
[19:18] <sandstrom> okey, I think I'll be safe!
[19:19] <sandstrom> thanks again!!
[19:27] <sandstrom> smb (samba) autostarts on my webserver. Is it needed for any of apache, php, ssh, sftp or subversion? if not; how can I disable it's autostart?
[19:28] <ascent> probably not needed, use update-rc.d to disable it at bootup
[19:28] <ascent> you can always put it back there if you do happen to need it
[19:29] <sandstrom> how do I use update-rc.d ?
[19:29] <ascent> man update-rc.d?
[19:30] <sandstrom> thanks!!
[19:30] <ascent> lol
[20:02] <darkvertex> !ssh
[20:22] <ScottK> leonel: New Debian clamav package for Etch ought to be a good hint for security updates.
[20:23] <leonel> ScottK: I'll check if ther's a cve  or  do you know if there's any ?
[20:24] <ScottK> I haven't looked.  Just saw it was uploaded today.  It wouldn't have gone to -security if it wasn't.
[20:24] <leonel> ScottK: ok i'll do
[20:40] <jpds> Can someone please tell me a way to mirror a specific release with debmirror?
[20:41] <kinections> does anybody here have success with using elilo with ubuntu server?
[20:53] <jmarsden> jpds: Does the info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror help?
[20:55] <jpds> jmarsden: Thanks!
[20:55] <jmarsden> jpds: You're welcome
[21:08] <RediXe> Looking for any information on extracting all the data on a MS Exchange Server and getting it put onto an Ubuntu-Server.
[21:10] <jmarsden> RediXe: *All* the data?  You can export mailboxes to PST files using exmerge, and then read those using readpst under Linux... is that the kind of thing you need?
[21:10] <jmarsden> I'm not sure how to convert all the calendar/contact data... but for email xfer the above method should work.
[21:11] <RediXe> jmarsden: Well, I'm not sure as I have never played with an MSE Server. My boss if flying to a client and he is asking me for idea's on how to get the data on the server to our servers. I know this includes emails but I believe is wants everything else too.
[21:12] <jmarsden> You might have to look and running one fo the exchange alternatives like openexchange or ZImbra and converting to that???  But I know little to nothing about those/
[21:13] <ababs213> s
[21:19] <ScottK> AFAIK Openchange is supposed to support that kind of thing.
[21:19] <ScottK> There's a version in Intrepid, not sure how complete it is.
[21:29] <nixternal> anyone having issues with 8.10 and grub not installing or working after a clean install?
[21:39] <ababs213> can anyone assit with apache and ubntu ?
[21:40] <samuraipengui1> ababs213: just ask.
[21:41] <ababs213> http://127.0.1.1 shows the  'it works' text, but  on internal ip address  http://192.168.1.88 it does not show 'it works'
[21:41] <ababs213> i thought this was supposed to work for both
[21:43] <samuraipengui1> ababs213: firewall in the way?
[21:44] <nealmcb> ababs213: so you're just running a default apache install, and trying different urls?
[21:44] <ascent> or just not configured for both ups?
[21:44] <ababs213>  inet addr:192.168.1.88  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0 is what i have
[21:44] <samuraipengui1> also, try netstat -nat | grep www -- see if it's listening on 0.0.0.0:www or 127.0.0.1:222
[21:44] <ascent> whats 222?
[21:44] <nealmcb> lol
[21:44] <samuraipenguin> s/222/www/
[21:44] <nealmcb> 222 is near www
[21:45] <ascent> ah
[21:45]  * samuraipenguin fails at typing
[21:45] <ascent> well, there's a difference
[21:45] <ascent> 0.0.0.0 means every available ip
[21:45] <ascent> where 127.0.0.1 only represents localhost
[21:45] <ababs213> ﻿netstat brings in 192.168.1.88:59296      209.85.137.125:5222     ESTABLISHED
[21:45] <ascent> so?
[21:46] <ababs213> i though i could access the 'it works' using both local host and the ip address of the computer.......is it not effectively the same thing ?
[21:46] <jmarsden> ababs213: Not necessarily.  Try netstat -nat | grep LISTEN and see where your apache httpd is listening...
[21:46] <ascent> depends on what port it listens
[21:47] <nealmcb> ababs213: the important thing is what it is listening on - try just netstat -nl
[21:47] <samuraipenguin> yeah, i'm lazy and use -nat for everything.
[21:47] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3306          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[21:47] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[21:47] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[21:48] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 192.168.1.88:59296      209.85.137.125:5222     ESTABLISHED
[21:48] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 192.168.1.88:56840      216.165.191.52:6667     ESTABLISHED
[21:48] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 192.168.1.88:41832      66.163.181.169:5050     ESTABLISHED
[21:48] <ababs213> tcp        0      0 192.168.1.88:44322      207.46.107.17:1863      ESTABLISHED
[21:48] <jmarsden> OK, so the :80 is the apache... httpd.  You failed to |grep LISTEN apparently?!
[21:48] <samuraipenguin> ababs213: okay, that's enough.  apache is listening on all available addresses.  so there must be a firewall somewhere that is blocking the connection.
[21:49] <jmarsden> ababs213: if you    telnet 192.168.1.88 80     what happens?
[21:49] <ababs213> http://pastebin.com/m2e01e0e6
[21:50] <jmarsden> ababs213: That's the result of a telnet???
[21:50] <ababs213> no the -nl
[21:50]  * jmarsden waits for the result of the telnet...
[21:51] <ababs213> Trying 192.168.1.88...
[21:51] <ababs213> Connected to 192.168.1.88.
[21:51] <jmarsden> It connected... OK.  type in     GET / HTTP-1.1  and press Enter.
[21:51] <ascent> get / <enter> <encter>
[21:51] <samuraipenguin> try typing "GET / HTTP/1.0" without quotes
[21:51] <jmarsden> :-)
[21:52] <samuraipenguin> lol, too much help at once, methinks
[21:52] <ascent> okay, I'll stop ;)
[21:54] <ababs213> Trying 192.168.1.88...
[21:54] <ababs213> Connected to 192.168.1.88.
[21:54] <ababs213> Escape character is '^]'.
[21:54] <ababs213> GET/HTTP/1.0
[21:54] <ababs213> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">

501 Method Not Implemented</title>

Method Not Implemented</h1>
GET/HTTP/1.0 to / not supported.<br />
[21:54] <ascent> \o/


[21:54] <ascent> there ya go
Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at testhost Port 80</address>

[21:54] <ascent> that's for that complete plage mage
[21:54] <ababs213> Connection closed by foreign host.
[21:54] <ascent> mate
[21:54] <hads> !pastebin
[21:54] <ascent> I really needed that ;)
[21:55] <ababs213> http://pastebin.com/d7b08a40e
[21:57] <jmarsden> ababs213: You didn't type in some spaces either side of the / ?
[21:57] <jmarsden> But it looks like the server is alive.
[21:57] <ascent> it's jsut fine
[21:57] <ascent> and if this works, your browser also works
[21:57] <ababs213> i also got this when i started apache sorry Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/var/www] does not exist
[21:57] <ababs213> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[21:57] <ascent> it may just not be configured with apache
[21:58] <ababs213> but it works on 127.0.1.1 ?
[21:58] <jmarsden> /home/var/www ?  That's weird.
[21:58] <ababs213> just not local ip
[21:58] <jmarsden> ababs213: Did someone or something edit the httpd.conf file ?
[21:58] <ababs213> i havent yet touched it as i dont fully understand it
[22:03] <jmarsden> What does    grep -i documentroot /etc/apache2/sites-available/*        output?  Should be just a couple of lines.
[22:04] <ababs213> yes just one
[22:04] <ababs213> 	DocumentRoot /var/www/
[22:04] <ababs213> the var and www only has root permissions but does that make a difference ?
[22:06] <jmarsden> ababs213: /var/www should be 755 (that is rwxr-xr-x)  What does ls -ld /var/www  output?
[22:06] <jmarsden> I don't like the way the warning referred to /home/var/www but the documentroot is /var/www -- that feeld very odd.
[22:06] <jmarsden> s/feeld/feels/
[22:07] <ababs213> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-11-07 22:22 /var/www
[22:07] <jmarsden> That's fine.
[22:07] <jmarsden> So the main issue is that something with hostname looking is broken, so the "could not reliably determine FQDN" thing happens.
[22:08] <ababs213> any suggestions on getting this resolved ? thanks
[22:09] <jmarsden> OK... what does    hostname    say ?
[22:10] <samuraipenguin> ababs213: to go back to the beginning, what happens when you browse to http://<your ip> ?
[22:10] <jmarsden> Do you have a domain name (such as ababs.com) to use for this web server?
[22:11] <ababs213> no
[22:11] <ababs213> just wanted to get local working before i start on port forwarding
[22:11] <ababs213> via a router
[22:12] <jmarsden> what does    hostname   output?  I'd suggest making it a fully qualified domain name, say   mypc.mydomain.local
[22:12] <jmarsden> Then edit /etc/hosts to match, and restart apache2
[22:13] <ababs213> just add in another local host line with the local ip address ?
[22:13] <ababs213> currently looks like this
[22:13] <ababs213> 127.0.0.1	localhost
[22:13] <ababs213> 127.0.1.1	abc-laptop
[22:13] <ababs213> 127.0.1.1	testhost
[22:14] <jmarsden> Ah.  You didn't set up networking at install time, or something.  Make one that says   192.168.1.88 testhost.mydomain.local
[22:14] <jmarsden> (if the hostname is testhost
[22:15] <jmarsden> Well, actually, 192.168.1.88 testhost.mydomain.local testhost        would be better still.
[22:15] <jmarsden> and get rid of anoth other lines containing testhost in that file.
[22:15] <jmarsden> *any other lines...
[22:16] <jmarsden> Done?
[22:17] <ababs213>  Restarting web server apache2       ==   Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/var/www] does not exist /    ﻿httpd (no pid file) not running
[22:18] <jmarsden> Well, we got rid of one warning :-)
[22:18] <jmarsden> BTW did you run a command      hostname testhost.mydomain.local    to set the hostname?
[22:18] <ababs213> http://pastebin.com/d2a562611
[22:19] <ababs213> cool
[22:20] <ababs213> works but still not on that particular ip address
[22:21] <jmarsden> The leading *s on some of those lines ion /etc/hosts are weird...
[22:21] <ababs213> no they are the ones i *'d
[22:22] <frish> hey, can any1 help me  with virt-viewer on ubuntu 8.10 ? it complains about X error...
[22:22] <ababs213> jmarsden......should it work with the local ip as well ?
[22:22] <ababs213> as without this working im not sure if port forwarding will work
[22:22] <ababs213> from external to router to laptop
[22:23] <jmarsden> Yes, it should... what happens if you now do      w3m http://192.168.1.88
[22:23] <ababs213> Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[22:23] <ababs213>  Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at 192.168.1.88 Port 80
[22:23] <jmarsden> OK, and    w3m  http://127.0.1.1    shows what?
[22:25] <ababs213> It works!
[22:25] <ababs213> with 127 even with the * in front of the text ?
[22:25] <jmarsden> Hm.  Somehow we have a bad documentroot /home/var/www that is messing things up for just the "real" IP...
[22:26] <samuraipenguin> purge/reinstall apache?
[22:26] <jmarsden> Not yet :-)
[22:26] <jmarsden> Let's try       find /etc/apache2 -type f | xargs grep /var/www
[22:27] <ababs213> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default:	DocumentRoot /var/www/
[22:27] <ababs213> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default:	<Directory /var/www/>
[22:27] <ababs213> /etc/apache2/httpd.conf:     DocumentRoot /home/var/www
[22:27] <ababs213> ps ive already reinstalled this one
[22:27] <ababs213> once
[22:27] <jmarsden> ababs213: So someone *did* edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf !
[22:28] <jmarsden> Edit the file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf  -- by default it should be empty.... so let's look at what is in there...
[22:28] <ababs213> only just now i did put the * in front of the 127.xxx ip's ? hmm could it have been changed due to the 127 error i got earlier on restarting apache ?
[22:29] <jmarsden> Never mind your weird /etc/hosts file for right now.... what is in the httpd.conf ?
[22:30] <jmarsden> (And how did it get there, since you didn't edit it until now)?
[22:30] <jmarsden> If it is big just pastebin it...
[22:31] <ababs213> <VirtualHost *>       ServerName testhost       DocumentRoot /home/var/www  </Virtualhost>
[22:31] <ababs213> thats it
[22:33] <jmarsden> OK, just delete that completely so the file is empty, and restart apache.
[22:33] <jmarsden> I'd love to know who or what put that *in* there... but we'll probably never know!
[22:36] <ababs213> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[22:36] <ababs213> it wont even remove the file ?  abc@abc-laptop:~$ sudo rm etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[22:36] <ababs213> rm: cannot remove `etc/apache2/httpd.conf': No such file or directory
[22:36] <Deeps> sudo rm /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[22:36] <Deeps> you missed the leading /
[22:37] <ababs213> oh year thanks
[22:37] <jmarsden> ababs213: You don't want to do that.  Just edit it to be present but zero length....
[22:38] <jmarsden> Just like it is when you first install apache2 :-)
[22:38] <ababs213> apache2: Syntax error on line 189 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory
[22:38] <jmarsden> ababs213: Are you reading what I just wrote??
[22:38] <jmarsden> Now try     touch /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[22:39] <ababs213> yes after
[22:39] <jmarsden> Then restart apache2
[22:39] <ababs213> http://pastebin.com/d65879a01
[22:40] <jmarsden> Odd, we already fixed that once.  Anyway, see if    w3m http://192.168.1.88 now works OK
[22:41] <ababs213> cool
[22:41] <ababs213> it works
[22:41] <samuraipenguin> at the bottom of apache2.conf add: ServerName testserver or similar.
[22:41] <ababs213> as does the 127
[22:41] <ababs213> as does http://testhost.mydomain.local.testhost/
[22:42] <ababs213> thanks you very much gentlemen
[22:42] <ababs213> ok im going to try the port forwarding now as well
[22:43] <jmarsden> OK.  You perhaps want to edit /etc/hosts so it is more like http://pastebin.com/d14712e1e
[22:47] <ababs213> jmarsden i think that has done it also got rid of all errors on restart of apache as well
[22:47] <jmarsden> Good :-)
[22:47] <ababs213> so it was in the main both the conf file and the httpd files
[22:47] <ababs213> thanks very much
[22:47] <jmarsden> You're welcome.  Now back up everything in /etc :-)
[22:49] <ababs213> will do is best pratice to call the files .bak and keep them there or copy them to another directory ?
[22:50] <jmarsden> ababs213: You are configuring a server and do not know how to do backups?  This is bad...  I'd do    tar zcf ~/etc-backup-2008011010.tar.gz /etc
[22:52] <ababs213> just learning
[22:52] <ababs213> never programmed before
[22:55] <jmarsden> ababs213: This is not programming.  This is system administration.
[22:55] <ababs213> once the server is set up then i start the programming
[22:55] <ababs213> php and mysql
[22:56] <ababs213> thanks again for your help
[22:56] <jmarsden> OK.
[23:20] <kees> mathiaz: can I nominate you to handle the merge of sysklogd and ntp?  I touched it last, but I was just mucking with hardening.
[23:22] <owh> kees: Is that in relation to the bug that has ntp starting and stopping? I'll have a look for the number.
[23:24] <owh> kees: Bug #114505
[23:24] <owh> kees: If not, carry on :)
[23:27] <kees> owh: no, unrelated.  I had fixed a different ntp bug where it would just instantly deadlock as soon as an interface came up at all.  :P
[23:28] <owh> kees: Excellent, does it do that by stopping ntp and restarting it :)
[23:42] <kees> owh: well, it's a bit of a mess, since ntp is trigger to restart when an interface comes up.
[23:43] <owh> kees: And that was to deal with ntpdate not updating if ntp was running :(
[23:43] <owh> It's baaaad all round.
[23:44] <kees> owh: yeah, and ntp before starting will call ntpdate.  in debian, they used the same lock file, so it'd just immediately deadlock.  :(
[23:45] <owh> kees: I submitted the patch to do the restart, but it was only ever a bandaid. I don't even have a handle yet on how it's supposed to work, let alone what to do to make it do that :)
[23:46] <owh> kees: It's like this quagmire of init scripts, time-outs, startups and restarts :(
[23:47]  * kees nods
[23:50] <owh> kees: I'd love to get my hands dirty and track it all down but I'm not even sure where to start because it appears as if there are bugs overlaying bugs, so picking it up at one end is likely to not actually get you closer to a fix. Having random people add "fixes" of course doesn't help :(
[23:51] <mathiaz> kees: IIRC someone else did the merge for sysklogd last time.
[23:51] <mathiaz> kees: but I'll have a look at it.
[23:54] <kees> mathiaz: cool, thanks
[23:56] <ababs213> need some assistance with hosting my webserver
[23:56] <ababs213> ive managed to get apache up and running locally with help from this channel
[23:56] <ababs213> now have got port forwarding on the router
[23:56] <ababs213> but no website
[23:57] <owh> ababs213: What happens?
[23:59] <ababs213> trace route using network tools shows my ip address
[23:59] <ababs213> traceroute using external ip shows local ip address