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_2oh poo.     just script me!00:08
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DaSkreechsh _200:13
gloopyhi00:16
gloopyI'm using 8.04 and GIMP 2.6.0 why does every image I click on open in a new instance of GIMP. On Gutsy and 2.4 I only have one GIMP and a few windows00:18
angelahello every one ken i ask a qeustjen here ?00:18
gloopynow I a have 12 windows on the task pane bar thing for four images00:18
_2yu ken00:20
gloopyI have tried changing the start line, gimp %u   gimp    gimp. Does anybody have any ideas to encourage GIMP to only have instance open.00:23
_2gloopy if no one in here has da'as you might ask in #gimp00:26
amigravehow can I use console8x16 fonts in konsole ? fontconfig is configured ok to show bitmaps, I can see the font in kcontrol but can't select it in konsole00:26
gloopy_2: that's a very useful suggestion :)00:26
gloopyI've just joined00:26
_2amigrave is konsole configured to use bitmap fonts ?00:27
jabapythIm on kde4, and I just enabled some desktop effects in the system settings, and all at once it blackscreens on me. My desktop is totally unusable00:30
jabapythHow do I disable desktop effects from the console?00:30
jabapyth(i had to do a console login)00:31
jabapythis there some config file I can edit....?00:31
DaSkreechjabapyth: Hardy or Ibex ?00:31
jabapythibex00:32
DaSkreechedit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc00:32
amigrave_2: damn !! indeed ! Just saw this "Use smooth fonts" checkbox00:32
amigrave_2: thanks a LOT !00:32
jabapythDaSkreech: thanks!00:32
amigravewow !! konsole is very slow with console8x16 !!?? WOnder if it's an nvidia issue. I'll try with "nv"00:34
_2amigrave even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.    err i mean welcome00:35
amigraveseems there's a bug in konsole. When unchecking "use smooth fonts" in order to select the "Console" font, konsole is slow as hell. Printing the output of ls -al is slow. But.. when checking "Use smooth font" again, konsole will still continue to use Console font and the speed is back (like default font). I'll report this.00:37
jabapythDaSkeet: so now I disabled everything I could find in the kderc file, and Im getting a white screen ;) I still have a cursor, though00:43
jabapythany other tips?00:43
jabapythIs there some way to just reset desktop configuration for kde4?00:44
_2rm the configs ?00:44
jabapythi guess i could try that..00:45
DaSkreechjabapyth: Hmm ? What did you change?00:45
DaSkreechYou only need to change one line00:45
jabapythbtw, once im in console mode, is there a way to get back to graphical mode other than restarting? ;)00:45
DaSkreechif you want to start from scratch then mv the config file out of the dir00:45
DaSkreechjabapyth: Lots of ways00:45
jabapythi tried sudo kdm00:45
_2jabapyth alt+f700:45
DaSkreechsafe way is sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart00:46
jabapythwhich worked in hardy00:46
jabapythk00:46
_2?dm00:46
DaSkreech :-)00:46
jabapythah ;) i found alt-f7, it works magic00:46
_2covers gdm kde xdm00:46
DaSkreechThat's not safe if you have three dms installed00:46
_2DaSkreech only the one that is running will start00:47
DaSkreech_2: There is none running is the issue00:47
_2wrong.  see   ^00:48
_2i.e.   <jabapyth> ah ;) i found alt-f7, it works magic00:48
jabapythhmm...removing kdedrc didnt help00:49
jabapythjk, i see i moved the wrong file...all is fixed now.00:50
jabapyththanks so much DaSkreech, _200:50
dighi, just wonder ctrl + alt + F1->F6. If I login into all of them, does it mean users use the same resouces at the same time00:50
_2welcome.00:50
DaSkreechjabapyth: Woooah No kwinrc00:51
_2dig no.00:51
DaSkreechdig: What?00:51
digok, I guess what does tty1 -> tty6 do?00:51
_2dig anything i want them too00:52
digsorry?00:52
_2i'm in tty2 talking to you here.00:52
DaSkreechdig: It's like having a new computer without having any more hardware00:53
_2i have an editor open in tty1 working on a script.   and some monitoring apps in tty2400:53
DaSkreech24?00:54
_2yes00:54
DaSkreechWhy would you have one in 24?00:54
digso alt +f7 only brings you back to GUI tty2?00:54
_2cause it's right_alt+f1200:54
DaSkreechwhat are you doing in 3-23 that You can't tell us about?00:54
_2dig yes the gui is in tty7 by default00:55
_2that is adjustable00:55
_2DaSkreech not a lot.  and the things that i can't tell you about,  i can't tell you about00:56
_2;/00:56
* DaSkreech nods sagely00:57
digok, so only 1 instance kdm is able to run?00:57
DaSkreechdig: no00:57
DaSkreechYou can put more on other terminals if you like00:57
_2also the commands chvt #   to change to tty#    and   openvt -fc #      where # is the tty you want to start a new shell in.   add -s if you want to switch to that tty also.00:57
digso say, if I start kdm at tty1 -> tty6, is it possible?00:57
_2dig yes it is possable.  but you have to edit the config  else kdm will only run in tty7+00:58
digic00:59
_2dig however you may be confusing running multi-instances of kdm with opening multi-instances of kde   they are not the same.  the xserver can support multiple sessions and each will open in it's own (+1) tty01:01
DaSkreech^^This^^01:02
digah, what is different between running multi-instances and opening multi-instances?01:03
_2heh.   kdm and kde01:03
_2read again   ^01:03
_2to open another session of kde just click the "switch users" button in the kmenu01:04
_2after you login  and the session is loaded press  alt+ctrl+f701:04
dige.g. I am running tty2, then crtl + alt +f2, but other users login. Will he/she be able to starty kdm?01:10
_2dig running what in tty2 ?     short answer is yes.01:11
digya, because I try to login myself in, but I cannot start another kdm.01:11
digneed to edit config..I guess01:12
_2you can...    but again, let me stress the differance in kdm and kde01:12
_2!info kdm01:12
ubottukdm (source: kdebase-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu12 (intrepid), package size 841 kB, installed size 2556 kB01:12
_2!info kde01:13
ubottukde (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:48ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB01:13
digok, thx01:14
gloopyhow do I fix 'Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session' ?01:14
_2kdm the display manager provides a graphical login screen, and then starts the (*) session       kde the desktop environment is the session in question in this conversation which has drifted off topic01:14
_2gloopy check the logs and find out why it failed ?01:15
gloopyit appeared when I tried to start gimp from the terminal01:16
_2dig also of note, and maybe more helpful in seeing what is actually happening; getty is the console login manager which then starts the console session (aka shell)01:17
_2gloopy hmmm is dbus running ?01:17
gloopyI've just installed dbus-x11 and the error has gone away01:18
_2gloopy ok.  call us if you need us.01:18
_2:)01:18
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scholzneed help with FireFox and Kodak Plugin01:20
scholzanyone interested?01:21
gloopyI wonder what else might have been affected by the d-bus not working?01:21
_2dig the consoles "tty#" are provided by the kernel and init.  init then runs the startup scripts which tell it to execute getty on tty[1-6] and execute ?dm (kdm in this case) kdm's confug file tells it to check for a vacant console at tty7(+1 until match) then put the graphical login screen in that tty.   the kernel hotkeys alt+ctrl+f# switch to the tty#       any more thoughts/questions i'd be glad to expound01:23
_2gloopy automount for sure.  bluetooth usb devices...01:23
_2gloopy or maybe i should say.  apps that access bluetooth/usb devices.01:24
_2power management apps too possably01:25
gloopyI'm going to restart and see if the problem stays fixed01:25
gloopy_2: thanks for your help01:25
_2"reboot will fix anything"  M$'ism01:26
_2gloopy welcome.01:26
wallabee_anyone know if tne screen flicker rands Bug is fixed yet?01:28
dig_2, just interested. Say you are using tty24, how do you use hotkey?01:33
kkathmanis there a way to make windows transparent in KDE4 like you could in compiz??01:35
DaSkreechkkathman: Yes01:35
anthraxhello01:35
anthraxsomebody speaking german here?01:35
_2dig when outside of xorg the "ctrl" is not needed. only alt+f#    left_alt+f#  is tty 1 - 12    and right_alt+f#  is tty 13 - 24    also i have the two winkeys set to increese tty ~ decreese tty  number by one.    same as alt+left dirrection  & alt+right dirrection01:35
kkathmanDaSkreech:  could you point me in that direction?01:35
DaSkreechkkathman: The translucent plugin01:36
DaSkreech!de | anthrax01:36
ubottuanthrax: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:36
_2dig there are actually 255 ttys01:36
wallabee_how to get thiss plugin?01:36
DaSkreechwallabee_: Installed by default01:36
_2dig i never use more than 24 at any give time tho01:37
digcool01:37
_2normally not over about 801:37
DaSkreechThen you have 64 Desktops01:37
_2desktop is in a tty01:37
DaSkreechwhich can each have 20 activities01:37
_2screen can support multi-session ttys too01:38
_2128*25501:38
kkathmanDaSkreech: right, that plugin is checked, but it looks like that only controls the window when it moves01:38
kkathmanIn compiz you could alt+mousewheel to change the translucency of any window01:39
tbr281i recently reinstalled and upgraded to kubuntu 8.10+kde4 and was wondering what decoder k3b uses for mp3's?01:39
_2and with job control one might be able to run more than one screen session in a single tty01:39
_2heh  one can also use one tty's 128 screen shells to log into same box via ssh and start a new screen session in each login01:41
anthraxsomebody there to help me with mysql?01:41
diganthrax: what is wrong?01:42
DaSkreechkkathman: You don't have an opacity option in alt=F3 ?01:42
anthraxi want to install mythtv01:42
anthraxand its necessary to give the databases adresses01:42
DaSkreech!myth01:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about myth01:42
DaSkreech!mythtv01:42
ubottumythtv is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV - For discussion and specific support, try #ubuntu-mythtv01:42
kkathmanDaSkreech: ahh there we go... was looking more for a slider rather than fixed %01:43
DaSkreechkkathman: that's been there since KDE2 btw01:43
kkathmanDaSkreech:  Im sure, but like I said in Compiz you could scale that opacity -- somewhere between 10s01:44
anthraxits not the program to install this01:44
anthraxthe problem ^01:44
anthraxi cannot log in to mysql01:44
tbr281so, anyone know k3b's mp3 codecs?01:45
_2!mp301:45
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:45
diganthrax: does it give you error while you login or something else?01:46
kkathmanDaSkreech: most people know those setting tho, not as Alt-F3 but right clicking the title bar of a window I reckon01:47
kkathmanI miss the cube :) lol01:47
DaSkreechkkathman: It's in Kwin01:48
_2the cube ????    borg alert !01:48
anthraxyes01:48
kkathmanright01:48
anthraxi have two problems01:48
kkathmannot the cube tho :(01:48
anthraxin the installation program first asked to set language .... ok !01:49
DaSkreechkkathman: It's in kwin just not shipped. You should see it in 4.2 I would suspect01:49
anthraxtheres a mistake....no upnp backends found01:50
anthraxthen there are fields to put parameters in01:51
anthraxcomputer name or something(i use german)01:52
_2DRM is dead.   long live DRM !01:53
anthraxdig are you there?01:53
_2what am i saying ???    death to all DRM01:53
diganthrax: I haven't use it before. but you may find this helpful ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72668001:55
DaSkreech_2: Which died?01:56
_2DaSkreech i only wish.01:57
_2!drm01:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about drm01:57
_2oh that we could all say that ubottu01:57
DaSkreechHa ha01:57
DaSkreech_2 ++01:57
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dwidmann__2: if only that would happen ...02:01
anthraxhmm02:01
anthraxthe same as before02:01
anthraxcannot find (ping) database host on the network ^02:02
ncfi1013_i have having trouble installing any kind of graphics driver for my nvidia geforce 6100 card. any research ive done reveals that the latest driver, 177.80, supports it, but i cant get it to work. can anybody help02:11
diganthrax: do you try to connect remote server & watching shows, etc?02:12
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anthraxi want only to make this program doing ok02:13
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: tried nvidia-glx-96?02:13
anthraxi am in the setup ^02:13
ncfi1013_not that experienced here. what is that?02:13
anthraxi went to terminal02:13
anthraxtyped mysql02:13
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: an older version of the nvidia driver ... it was current when that card was released02:13
ncfi1013_how do i install it if i have to02:14
anthraxgiven command: mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.2" identified by "mythtv";02:15
ncfi1013_dwidmann, can i get it thru adept02:16
s0undt3chppl, why the hell does firefox need gnome libs!?02:16
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: yes02:16
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: the package aforementioned is nvidia-glx-9602:16
DaSkreechs0undt3ch: It's a bug02:17
DaSkreechApparently the bug is that you installed KDE02:17
dwidmann_DaSkreech: that's an awfully weird way to put it02:18
DaSkreechdwidmann_: Read the bug report and you'll understand02:19
ncfi1013_pardon me for clarifying, dwidmann, but you are sure it will work with a 00:05.002:19
DaSkreechanthrax: #ubuntu-mythtv02:19
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: 00:05.0?02:20
dwidmann_DaSkreech: a link to the bug?02:20
Pyles17!terminal02:20
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:20
ncfi1013_yeah i dont know how to explain it either02:21
anthrax@skreech im already there ... :D02:21
dwidmann_you could install a debranded/re-compiled version of firefox like swiftweasel if you don't want to install a load of gnome depends though02:22
Pyles17isn't there a key combo to open terminal?02:22
ncfi1013_maybe this will help to answer the question, the type of card that it might be is: intel ICH with ALC 655 (intel 655), dwidmann02:22
dwidmann_Pyles17: what I do is use xbindkeys for that02:23
_2Pyles17 if nothing else   alt+f2 konsole02:23
Pyles17dwidmann, _2: thanks02:23
_2does kde4 use khotkeys ?02:24
_2use/have02:25
s0undt3chDaSkreech: are you sure you're on the right channel?02:25
_2come with ?02:25
ncfi1013_dwidmann, i am installing nvidia-glx-96 thru adept. is there anything else i will have to do after that?02:25
Pyles17_2: yes02:25
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: intel ich has something else to do with the motherboard and alc 655 has to do with the sound.02:26
Pyles17_2: I don't know how to use it, but it has it :p02:26
_2Pyles17 well there you go then02:26
Pyles17I'll figure it out02:26
ncfi1013_so i guess that is not helping02:26
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: yes ... you'll need to run sudo nvidia-xconfig02:26
draikWhere is the Find feature in Kubuntu?02:27
_2kappfinder ?02:27
_2or the command "find" ?02:27
draikThe app to find files on my computer.02:28
_2find02:28
ncfi1013_from login screen/console login or from konsole itself?02:28
dwidmann_in that case the locate command also qualifies02:28
draikI'm looking for an image so I would need a GUI02:28
_2man find    # in short   find /basedir/ -iname *partialname*02:28
DaSkreech_2: Does ibex install recommended by default ?02:28
ncfi1013_dwidmann, it is done installing02:29
_2DaSkreech idk.  i'm still using dapper02:29
DaSkreech_2: Don't like hardy ?02:29
_2DaSkreech i'm gonna get my money's worth out of this LTS before i move on   :)))02:30
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: so after running "sudo nvidia-xconfig" in a console, save any work you have opened and hit ctrl + alt + backspace02:30
_2DaSkreech actually dailup constrains me to down load as little as possable.02:30
DaSkreech_2: Paid for support ?02:30
_2paid throught the nose,  bandwidth02:30
draikIs there a GUI app to locate the file?02:31
dwidmann__2: dialup with a bandwidth limit? that sounds quite painful02:31
dwidmann__2: one would think that it being slow as a slug trying to go uphill would be limitation enough02:32
digdraik: you don't know what the file called?02:32
ncfi1013_what is the website for pastebin02:32
_2dwidmann_ indeed02:32
Pyles17!paste02:32
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:32
_2dwidmann_ or DaSkreech can you answer draik please ?02:33
ncfi1013_i have some negative results to your suggestion, dwidmann02:33
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: oh?02:33
draikNot really. I recall naming it with the ending being numerical.. *001.jpg *002.jpg and so forth. I don't recall what that * was now.02:33
DaSkreechDolphin ?02:33
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: if it's nvidia-xconfig giving you a dangerous sounding warning, I was expecting that to happen, and it should be safe to ignore02:33
digdraik: I am not sure how you can search images like that02:34
_2i'm thinking one would have to thumbnail them02:35
dwidmann__2: wouldn't it be kfind?02:35
draikdig: Not literally using asterisk. There was something prior to the numbers. They were screenshots.02:35
ncfi1013_maybe you could go here to see what i am talking about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70275/02:35
_2dwidmann_ maybe.  i thought kappfinder  but that's probably wrong.02:35
_2draik look for kfind02:36
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: sure can02:36
_2i have both kfind and kappfinder   but don't recall ever using either.02:37
DaSkreechCtrl+F in konqueror invokes kfind I think02:37
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: yeah, that's the warning you're going to get when you run nvidia-xconfig in Intrepid, just ignore it.02:37
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: worst comes to worst, you can just restore the backup that nvidia-xconfig made for you02:37
DaSkreechs0undt3ch, dwidmann_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/26694602:38
Pyles17what's the command to extract a .tgz?02:38
ncfi1013_ok so did i succeed in installing it and how come all my windows are big, suffocating, and "fat"?02:39
dr_willis!info unp02:39
ubottuunp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15 (intrepid), package size 10 kB, installed size 76 kB02:39
dr_willis:) i cheat and use 'unp' Pyles17  , the normal command is tar xzvf whateverfile02:39
Pyles17dr_willis: thank you02:39
draik_2: dig: Nothing found. Thanks for your help. I hope I have a backup of that image elsewhere too.02:40
_2draik you can look throught your thumbnail cache too02:40
dwidmann_DaSkreech: and for what I was talking about earlier, hehe, http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1510702:41
draikIt's been a while, _2.02:41
digdraik: just wonder does kfind needs to index files, before searching02:41
dwidmann_ncfi1013_: resolution issue maybe?02:41
DaSkreechNo02:41
DaSkreechit works just like find from the command line02:42
_2draik still    find / -iname *.jpg > list.txt      and you can look throught  list.txt    with any editor    it should list all .jpg files on the system02:42
digis it worth to try slocate?02:42
DaSkreechdig: If you like02:43
draik_2: Good point. Thank you. I will try that now.02:43
_2dig should prolly   sudo updatedb    first02:43
digya02:43
_2draik might quote  '*.jpg'  to protect from word expansion in case you have any files by that name in the $PWD      just a thought.02:44
newlifeHi - Can't seem to figure out how to change my desktop wallpaper - I download some but can't get them to show up - Doing something wrong here? ?02:46
draik_2: I went with      find /home/draik/ -iname *.jpg > Desktop/jpg.txt02:46
_2draik ok.  but if there was any filename.jpg in the $PWD it didn't work right.02:47
_2$PWD == where is me now02:48
draikRight, but I know I put it somewhere within my own $HOME02:48
_2k02:48
_2why did i get this >>> slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old02:50
_2i just ran   updatedb02:50
DaSkreechExactly what the error said02:51
_2slocate / | wc -l02:51
_2slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old02:51
_216929402:51
_2DaSkreech if updatedb doesn't update the database then what does ?02:51
Ashexbah02:52
Ashexwhy does katapult launch folders in filelight02:52
DaSkreechupdatedb but the warning is that it hasn't been run in 8 days02:52
draikWhile on the topic of finding images, is there a way to find duplicates? My girl and I have two separate folders for our camera pictures and I know there are duplicates of our pictures elsewhere on the system. Anyway to find duplicates and remove the one we don't want?02:52
lovrehow do i take a screenshot?02:52
_2i just ran it becore the command i posted   ^02:52
DaSkreechksnapshot02:52
_2DaSkreech    ^02:52
_2before02:53
DaSkreechah then it lies :)02:53
_2i would think so.   that's why i asked the Q.    "why did i get this "02:53
_2lovre or the printscreen too maybe.02:54
lovre_2: yes, ksnapshot it is, i was wondering it wasnt bount to PRTSCR button02:55
_2hmmm in some desktop the button does work. i have used it... just not sure where02:55
lovre_2: ok, thanx02:56
cameriHello02:58
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1511102:59
_2             ?03:00
_2it's not updating ???03:01
Pyles17!iwlwifi03:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about iwlwifi03:01
kabotagehow come im on kde and my desktop is gnome???03:01
_2you arent03:02
_2are you asking why you are in the kubuntu support channel ?03:02
_2or are you asking why a gnome session started when you logged in ?03:03
kabotagenope. im using kde and my desktop is gnome03:03
_2you are not using kde if your desktop is gnome,   you are using gnome03:03
kabotagekdm03:03
_2ok.  because you logged into a gnome session03:04
_2and what ?dm you use to do so is irrelavent03:04
_2there is a menu in the dm to allow you to choose which session you log into.  use it.03:05
kabotagei dunno. my taskbar is kde.i dont have gdm, im using kde 4.1. im confused03:05
_2again.   ?dm matters not at all.03:05
_2it can be xdm for all the session cares03:06
kabotagebut03:06
_2also if your "task bar"  is kde (actually kicker)   what makes you think you are in gnome ?03:07
kabotagehow come that happen? i only installed nvidia and configured it to make a dual screen.03:08
_2!info pastebinit | kabotage install this if you don't have it already03:08
ubottukabotage install this if you don't have it already: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 88 kB03:08
kabotageif your on kde you wont see any icons on your desktop. i see a whole bunch icons03:08
_2who said you wont ?03:09
_2kde can have icons03:09
_2gnome can be without them.03:09
_2seeing icons is not an indication of what desktop env you are in.  other than it might mean you are not in twm.03:10
kabotageno. i mean theres a separate folder if your on kde. and its gnome. even the right click option03:11
Pyles17_2: nice exploit of the chat bot03:11
_2in a terminal run    ps ax | pastebinit03:11
_2Pyles17 heh   my speciality03:11
_2!helpersnack | Pyles17 i'm even going to share my cookies with you because,03:12
ubottuPyles17 i'm even going to share my cookies with you because,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:12
_2:)03:12
Pyles17_2 lol03:12
_2just don't put an "is" in your string and you can say almost anything03:13
_2!ubottu | ubottu is ubottu03:13
ubottuubottu is ubottu: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:13
_2oh they fixed it03:14
_2kewL03:14
Pyles17What was wrong with it?03:14
Pyles17!paste03:14
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:14
ForzaPalermohey guys i just did an upgrade from gutsy to intrepid, and network manager wont connect me to my wired interent03:15
ForzaPalermobut if i do a dhclient eth0 in terminal im fine03:15
ForzaPalermoany ideas?03:15
_2it key'd the is and took it as a command to ammend the infonode     command being    "ubottu blah is string here"    and it didn't check for the | so it thought it was being told to correct an infonode or creat one.03:15
Pyles17weird03:16
kabotage_2 http://pastebin.com/f4793b4f203:16
_2ForzaPalermo i think that's a known bug03:16
ForzaPalermo_2, hmm so i guess im better off doing a clean install?03:16
ForzaPalermou know ive enver been able to upgrade kubuntu distros without issues lol, always have to resort to clean install03:17
_2kabotage you are indeed running a hibird session   "   92.  6016 ?        S      0:04 /usr/bin/metacity --replace "  is the reason.03:18
Pyles17can someone help me install the intel 3945 driver? In my state of newbness i can't decifer the readme. http://paste.ubuntu.com/70291/03:19
kabotage_2 how do i fix it?03:19
_2kabotage kcontrol ?03:19
mdownerHI03:19
_2kabotage or look in ~/.kde/Autostart/   for any files/links  that might be starting it ?03:20
_2kabotage not sure there.03:20
_2kabotage maybe run   kwin --replace    and if it works be sure to save session and logout / back in.03:21
legodudeis there a way to swap the mouse buttons from command line?03:22
legodudewhenever I resume from suspend, my mouse buttons are swapped03:22
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ganymedeis anyone else noticing that taskbar and title bar icons are corrupted when using KDE 4.1.3 apps over X11 forwarding? i'm using XWin-32 8.0 and PuTTY on the client side and OpenSSH on the server03:22
_2kmousetool might be able too03:23
_2.3 ?03:23
legodudethanks03:23
Pyles17can someone help me install the intel 3945 driver? In my state of newbness i can't decifer the readme. http://paste.ubuntu.com/70291/03:23
kabotage_2 thanks. im really new to this.03:23
xavierlol03:23
Pyles17kabotage: me tooooooooo03:23
wtffffsaa7134 ALSA: can't load, DMA sound handler already assigned (probably to OSS)03:25
wtffffhelp03:25
wtffffy is this happening03:25
_2Pyles17 as per line 32-33   grep CONFIG_FW_LOADER /boot/*03:26
DaSkreechtwm is a de ?03:26
_2DaSkreech well depends on how exactly you define desktop environment i guess03:27
_2:)03:27
_2Pyles17 does that give you usable output ?03:28
DaSkreechkabotage, Pyles17: Welcome to Kubuntu :)03:28
* mister-tea wonders if he knows to type it interminal03:29
Pyles17DaSkreech: thank you very much sir03:29
Pyles17it gave an output03:29
Pyles17just a second03:29
Pyles17_2: /boot/config-2.6.27-7-generic:CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y03:30
Pyles17i was trying to paste the output into the chat and it was taken as a command03:30
charimshi everyone03:31
DaSkreech!hi03:31
_2ok that means that the kernel "2.6.27-7-generic"   which should match  `uname -r`  does indeed have the firmware loader support    so the rest is pretty streight forward.03:31
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:31
mcmistikommm03:31
mcmistiko:S03:31
mcmistikoxD03:31
Pyles17_2 thanks03:31
ablack7Hello all03:32
Pyles17!hello03:32
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:32
_2Pyles17 heh yes.  any line starting with / is a command.    you can just hit the space bar and then paste in most cases03:32
_2 /this works for me03:32
ablack7has anyone set up a xampp before?????????03:32
Pyles17_2 thanks. I have a feeling I will be on here often03:32
jmichaelx!hi | ubottu03:32
ubottuubottu: please see above03:32
_2/say /so does this03:32
jmichaelxXD03:32
ablack7Xampp anyone??03:33
ganymededd dd03:33
Pyles17ablack7: kinda sorta not really03:33
Pyles17ablack7: is it with gtalk?03:34
_2dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp bs=203:34
charims!swappiness03:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about swappiness03:35
charims!kde03:35
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde403:35
writherAnyone happen to know of any Blu Ray burning application that can actual burn Blu Ray codec video and not just Blu Ray Data (as in Nero 3)?03:35
_2charims just exeracising the bot ?03:35
ablack7set up xampp03:36
writherablack: are you responding to my question?03:36
ablack7no thats my question03:37
ablack7writher. my bad03:37
legodudewhat's the question about xampp?03:38
_2writher i'll respond.   not i!   sorry.03:38
ablack7im stuck on error03:38
ablack7-legodude in terminal03:38
legodudeyeah03:38
legodudewhich error?03:38
ablack7cant find the direectory03:38
legodude...03:38
ablack7im in su already03:38
_2how did you su ?03:39
ablack7typing in su03:39
ablack7and my pw03:39
_2no dash ?03:39
ablack7im in root03:39
ablack7that good03:39
_2no dash ?03:39
ablack7im still get the same issue03:39
ablack7no dash03:39
_2ok.03:39
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_2cause su -   would have moved you to root's home dir.03:40
ablack7One moment plz03:40
legodudeyou're following the directions on the xampp website?03:40
ablack7yes03:40
legodudebasically just untaring the archive?03:40
ablack7p03:40
ablack7yep03:40
legodudeok03:40
legodudeso you have su-ed03:40
ablack7yep same thing03:41
legodudenow you are running tar and get an error?03:41
ablack7 tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz -C /opt03:41
legodudeyup03:41
ablack7tar: xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory03:41
ablack7and three more lines03:41
legodudeokay03:41
legodudedo a ls03:41
legodudedo you see the file?03:41
_2ah and then you cd /opt/xamp<tab_key>03:41
ablack7no03:41
legodudethere is your problem03:42
_2in opt   &03:42
ablack7?03:42
_2note the  -C03:42
ablack7yes03:42
legodudeits not finding the tarball03:42
_2man tar for details if you don't  know what -C does.03:42
legodudeyou have to change directory to where the tarball is03:42
Pyles17ablack7: you have to type in the entire path of the file03:42
_2legodude that's where  -C came in.03:43
ablack7i thought that was03:43
legodudewhoops03:43
legodudedidn't even see that03:43
ablack7its going into the /opt03:43
* _2 says it one more time DASH CAPITAL SEA ! and shuts up.03:43
ablack7lol03:44
ablack7any more theories ?03:44
Pyles17_2: how do you do the action thing?03:44
* _2 says /me did it.03:44
ablack7any suggestions *_203:45
ablack7?03:45
* Pyles17 says what?03:45
Pyles17n/m03:45
Pyles17lol03:45
ablack7tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz -c /op03:45
_2ablack7 what error message are you getting    paste it here.03:45
_2one line only.03:45
ablack7tried lil c03:45
legodudeno03:45
legodudeit is not finding the tarball03:45
mdownerWHATS XAMPP03:46
legodudeyou have to run that command in the same directory as the tar03:46
legodudelamp stack03:46
Pyles17!xampp03:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xampp03:46
ablack7explain plz03:46
Pyles17I tried03:46
ablack7like in /opt03:46
Pyles17ablack7: i didn't try to explain, that was just unfortunate timing03:46
mdownerHMM GUESS GOOGLE WILL HAVE THE DEFINITION03:46
ablack7tried it already Mdowner03:47
legodudemdowner: lamp stack03:47
legodudeapache, mysql03:47
Pyles17mdowner: why is everything in caps?03:47
legodudephp03:47
mdownerIM A NEWBIE TO LINMUX03:47
mdownerLINUX03:47
mdownerWHATS LAMP STACK03:47
mdownermy mistakme03:47
mdownermistakme03:47
Pyles17it's all good03:48
mdownermistake03:48
_2ablack7 find /home -iname 'xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz' -exec tar -xvfz '{}' -C /opt \; && cd /opt03:48
_2then ls    :)))03:48
legodudehaha03:49
legodudebit of overkill03:49
ablack7then what?03:49
ablack7_203:49
legodudeyou should see the directory03:49
legodudein /opt03:49
ablack7tried that before to but have to have permisson to put in opt03:49
_2he'll be in opt      assuming it exits 003:49
ablack7tried drag and exract too03:49
legodudeare you still root?03:50
ablack7even in root03:50
benbloomI'm having trouble with some of my .rar archives. sometimes when I use ark it shows just the .rar file to extract from all the components other times all I get is the list of "part"s which I don't want to unarchive individually. any help? should I be using a dif program than ark?03:50
_2wait.  you said and i quote "<ablack7> typing in su <ablack7> im in root"03:50
* legodude doesn't even know what the purpose of ark files in any more03:50
legodudeer03:50
legoduderar files03:50
ablack7yes03:51
ablack7_@03:51
ablack7_203:51
legodudethen how can you have permissions problems?03:51
_2and you ran my command ?03:51
legodudeablack7: my suggestion is to first find where you downloaded the file to03:51
ablack7one moment03:51
ablack7its in documents03:52
_2legodude see not over kill   :)03:52
legodudehaha03:52
legodudeokay03:52
benbloomso legodude Is this a common problem?03:52
legodudeso03:52
ablack7so can find easy03:52
legodudewhat does pwd say?03:52
legodudebenbloom: sorry, I haven't used rar files since floppies03:52
_2!rar03:53
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:53
_2!unrar03:53
_2!info unrar-free03:53
ubottuunrar-free (source: unrar-free): Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-1 (intrepid), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB03:53
ablack7found the file03:53
cameriregarding compiz... what's the problem with it? why is it making the desktop hang???/03:53
Pyles17where did the free (as in speech)/free (as in beer) thing come from03:54
benbloomthanks _2 I'll look into it03:54
sint_holoi need to turn the radio power on a bcm43xx in kubuntu 8.10 iwconfig shows device just no power any ideas ?03:54
legodudePyles17: difference between free speech, and freely given item (no cost)03:54
legodudepeople like beer...03:54
Pyles17legodude: i know that, i was just wondering how that expression became so popular03:55
legodudeoh03:55
legodudeesr?03:55
_2Pyles17 it's a simple way to define the differance in "costs no money" and "you own the source code, it's yours and mine and everyone elses, to do with as we choose"03:55
lovrehow do i uninstall software installed via wine??03:55
Pyles17i understand03:55
legodudestallman03:56
legodudemaybe03:56
legodudeless pretentious than gratis/libre?03:57
_2rms who ?03:57
camerilovre: Can you locate the Wine folder in your application launcher?03:57
legodude!!!!03:57
legodudehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman03:57
cameriThere should be a shorcut that says: Uninstall Wine Software03:57
Pyles17legodude: but pretentiosity is what makes things fun03:57
lovrecameri: the folder is ~/.wine03:58
_2Pyles17 that and ^^icro$oft03:58
lovrecameri: there is not such shortcut03:58
* pyRunner is away: Gone away for now03:59
_2!away > pyRunner03:59
ubottupyRunner, please see my private message03:59
Pyles17i see03:59
Pyles17!away04:00
ubottuYou should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»04:00
_2and putting it in a pm keeps it from scrolling off his screen04:01
Pyles17yeah, sorry04:01
_2so when he/she gets back they can read it.04:01
Pyles17_2: I just wanted to see what it did04:01
mister-teawhat's a noisey away message?04:01
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_2!msgthebot > Pyles1704:02
ubottuPyles17, please see my private message04:02
_2mister-tea anything that sends to the channel04:02
legodudemister-tea: a broadcast away message04:02
mister-teais mine a broadcast?04:03
_2havent seen it04:03
mister-teathen I must be ok then04:03
_2if not i'll sic the bot on you :)04:04
* mister-tea fears the bot04:04
_2hmmm brings up question,  does ubottu have magical funny hat   like floodbot*   ?04:05
camerilovre: let me see04:05
camerilovre: Check out Applications -> Lost & Found04:05
_2i'm gonna guess that it does, jussi?1 does   so his bots prolly do.04:06
mister-tea!helpersnack | _204:06
ubottu_2: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!04:06
_2!botsnack | ubottu04:07
ubottuubottu: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!04:07
lovrecameri: that is it. thank you04:07
lovrecamer: why did it go to lost and found...04:07
legodudebots are such fun04:07
* pyRunner is back.04:09
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camerilovre: I don't know, but Wine always install there under KDE04:09
_2back when the bot was young it had lots of useless but really fun infonodes and functions   like  !startan*war   where * might be desktop or editor    and the bot would randomly post something like    jwm is better than gnome     or  jed is better than emacs     respectively04:09
joe-coderis there any way to get kopete to give me new email notifications?04:09
cameriI think that in Gnome it had it's own section04:09
cameribut that's not kde... and I can't help you with that (i'm a new user too :P)04:10
legodudevim04:10
legoduderules all04:10
_2legodude heh.  that's how editor wars start  :)04:10
camerilegodude, can you say my nick? im trying to see if the highlight will make a sound04:10
* mister-tea likes kate04:10
_2pico is better than vim04:11
_2:)))04:11
legodudecameri:04:11
camerithx04:11
legodudepico is for larve04:11
camerihahahaha04:11
cameridon't take that personally, please04:11
_2ed is better than kate04:12
_2oh shoot, now how do i turn that back off....04:12
mister-teaI know what I like04:12
_2i think i got it04:13
_2we'll have to wait an see04:13
_2emacs is better than vi04:13
_2guess not.04:13
legodudethems fightin words04:13
joe-coderwhen i search for katapult in adept, i don't get any results.04:14
legodudeyou are spelling it wrong?04:14
legodudekatapault?04:14
joe-coderwell, in the add/remove applications04:14
joe-coderi tried katapault first, but then saw it spelled katapult on a website04:14
legodudewhoops, katapult04:14
legodudelearn something new ever day04:14
_2emacs is better than vi04:14
joe-coderi have "Show all available packages" selected04:14
joe-coder8.1004:15
_2uhhh   what?04:15
charims!katapult04:15
_2grrr i'll find out how to kill that if i have to restart the computer04:15
ubottukatapult is theapplication launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.04:15
JontheEchidnakatapult isn't in Intrepid, though KRunner does about the same thing and it's installed by default04:15
charims!intrepid04:15
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!04:15
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emmaAny opinions on installing firefox in kubuntu?04:16
_2nano is better than gedit04:16
arshamhi all04:16
legodudeemma: it made me happy04:16
dwidmann__emma: what kind of opinions?04:16
emma_2 well of course better depends on a ot of context. Better for what purpose or what user.04:16
_2i'm sorry guys.  i'll go figure out how to kill that04:16
joe-coderemma, I use firefox in kubuntu04:16
_2emma it's a sctipt04:17
arshamI just fresh installed, but when I boot I got error 24 from grub04:17
legodudebetter for users with good hepatic function04:17
charimsemma:I use firefox in Kubuntu, i just find issues with launching donwloads rather than saving them (it won't open up in any applications)04:17
emmadwidmann__ legodude I'm torn between (1) Firefox is a better browser (for me) than konqueror is, but (2) If you install firefox in kubuntu you will get a ton of gnome libs.04:17
lovrecameri: ok thank you04:17
legodudeso?04:17
lovrebye04:17
legodudewhat's wrong with gnome libs?04:17
_2joe is better than kate04:17
emmaYeah so i'm not sure if it is a big deal to have lots of gnome libs or if that should not bother me as much as it does.04:17
camerilovre: c ya04:17
legodudeI don't think that it should04:17
dwidmann__emma: swiftweasel is actually a decent option ... can be installed with an apt repository, without the gnome deps04:18
emmadwidmann__: hm, now that sounds interesting.04:18
charims!swiftweasel04:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftweasel04:18
emmais it different than iceweasel?04:18
emma!info swiftweasel04:18
ubottuPackage swiftweasel does not exist in intrepid04:18
emma!info iceweasel04:18
ubottuPackage iceweasel does not exist in intrepid04:18
* pyRunner is away: bye04:18
emmai guess it's not in universe04:19
dwidmann__swiftweasel = optimized recompiles of them ... it's a third party repo04:19
emmahm.04:19
dwidmann__http://swiftweasel.tuxfamily.org/04:19
emmadwidmann__: what would be cool is if someone into kde would make a repo with a firefox made for KDE.04:19
emmaimagine a qt based firefox ♥04:20
dwidmann__emma: such a thing may in fact be in the works04:20
legodudewhat's wrong with firefox as is?04:20
emmadwidmann__: so it seemed for a while there.04:20
dwidmann__emma: I recall nokia working on something like that04:20
emmalegodude: If you install firefox from the ubuntu repos you will get a ton of GNOME libs.04:20
legodudeother than it doesn't use KDE common dialogs04:20
legodudeemma: but what is wrong with that?04:20
emmaif you run GNOME lib apps in KDE the first such ap will hurt your RAM.04:21
* pyRunner is back.04:21
legodudesure04:21
legodudeso you lose extra 30mb04:21
emmaAs soon as you start a GNOME lib app in KDE you will start lots of GNOME processes.04:21
emmaI'm not one of these people that's antagonistic about other DEs believe me. I used GNOME for the last 10 months. I rather like GNOME. When I used GNOME I was not thrilled about putting KDE apps on it for the same reason.04:22
emmaI could be wrong though. I don't want to be stuck in an irrational rut, but somehow psychologically I like to keep stuff pure.04:23
legodudeyeah04:23
legodudeI think you should work on that04:23
legodudeit is kind of limiting04:23
legodudeand borderline bizarre04:23
lovrei have another problem :( some flash files are not working in firefox. for example when i go to www.southparkstudios.com and try to watch an episode, i just get nothing, blank. Why is this?04:23
charimsou may be using the open source version of flash, though it is frowned upon, i use flashplugin-nonfree04:24
emmaI think he/she is using flashplugin-nonfree as well since yesterday they installed kubuntu-restricted-extras04:24
lovrecharims: how do i change to that?04:25
emmalovre: I probably cannot help but out of curiosity could you post a link to the site in question so I can see if I can view the medium?04:25
lovreemma:  i did install restricted extras..04:25
emmalovre: yes I know that's what I was telling him.04:26
emmaI think flashplugin-nonfree comes in kubuntu-restricted-extras doesn't it?04:26
charimslovre: you should remove whatever you have installed for flash using the software package manager, and then install Kubuntu-resrticted-extras04:26
lovreemma: this is what i cant see: http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/16436504:26
legodude_grrrr04:26
legodude_kernel panic04:26
emmacharims: he/she has installed kubuntu-restricted-extras (lowercase k)04:27
lovreemma: can you view this: http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/16436504:27
charimsemma: wait, the resricted package installs a macromedia shockwave player, not adobe flash, If i'm not mistaken04:28
mister-teaican04:28
legodude_flash is really hit or miss for me04:28
wtffffhelp!!!04:28
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emmafor the adobe flash I would go directly to their site and get the ubuntu .deb and have Gdebi install it.04:29
wtffffi have 3 tv cards.. after booting up in kubuntu, /dev/video0 /dev/video1 /dev/video2 is okayy..but the audio has only /dev/dsp , /dev/dsp1 , /dev/dsp2 .. and its not working!04:29
emmaI think Gdebi is in kubuntu too.04:29
mister-teaemma that one didn't work for me04:29
wtffffit suppose to be /dev/dsp0 dsp1 and dsp2........?04:30
wtffff[   37.364601] saa7133[0]: registered device dsp004:30
wtffff[   37.364613] saa7133[0]: registered device mixer004:30
wtffff[   37.364698] saa7133[1]: registered device dsp104:30
wtffff[   37.364708] saa7133[1]: registered device mixer104:30
wtffff[   37.364807] saa7133[2]: registered device dsp204:30
wtffff[   37.364816] saa7133[2]: registered device mixer204:30
emmamister-tea: maybe you run 64 bit kubuntu?04:30
mister-teano04:30
wtffffdmesg say this, but /dev/dsp* shows another thing!04:30
wtffffhelpp04:30
mike__I want to see youtube with konqueror.......04:30
emmaAdobe only has 32 bit flash player04:30
lovreemma: i just did that, downloaded from adobe, installed, and nothing, i still cant view the movie. The same thing on gnome worked fine.... any other idea?04:30
mike__I can't04:30
lovreemma: you didnt answer can you see the movie?04:30
emmalovre: are you getting a black screen with the flash swirl?04:30
emmalovre: not yet no.04:30
mister-teaI JUST INSTALLED FLASHPLAYER NON FREE ..IT WORKS FINE04:30
emmaI'm getting a black screen but with the flash swirl as if it is loading the movie.04:31
mister-teasorry hit caps lock04:31
lovreemma: i get a black screen, yes04:31
emmado you get the flash swirly thing?04:31
lovreemma: no04:31
lovrethis sux04:32
emmaNope I'm not sure.04:32
mike__CIAO!04:32
lovreon this page, i get the flash loading screen, says Loading, but it never does, just stays like that04:33
lovrehttp://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/209726/04:33
mister-teaI can view it04:33
lovre:(04:34
lovremister-tea: do you have firefox 3.0.3 on kubuntu 8.10?04:34
mister-teawhen I installed from the adobe web site it looked for a file not used in the new f04:34
mister-teaf04:34
Pyles17seriously, this is getting ridiculous. I installed the driver for my wireless card and it still comes back UNCLAIMED04:34
mike__I can't view it with konqueror04:34
mike__why?04:35
lovrein konqueror i get the swirly thingy, and it never loads04:35
mister-teaPyles17: can you see the module?04:35
Pyles17mister-tea: in lshw -C network it shows up04:36
Pyles17mister-tea: it just says UNCLAIMED, which i think means it doesn't have the driver04:37
wtffff????????????04:37
mister-teawhat is the card04:38
Pyles17Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG04:38
wtffffcan anyone help me with the dsp assignment?04:38
mister-teak brb04:38
dwidmann__Pyles17: should use iwl3945 ... it's native04:39
dwidmann__(driver, that is)04:39
Pyles17dwidmann__: I'm using the iwlwifi-3945, i'm not sure if it's the same thing04:40
joe-coderis katapult not in kde4?04:40
dwidmann__joe-coder: right ... apparently the lead developer though krunner was headed in the right direction and would soon surpass katapult anyway ...04:41
dwidmann__joe-coder: you could change the shortcut from alt+f2 and see for yourself i you want04:42
dwidmann__(it certainly isn't on par with katapult though ... in my opinion)04:42
lovrei need a web proxy that is located in united states.. anyone know of a good one?04:44
* legodude_ hates geo-restrictions04:46
Pyles17okay i'm back04:53
mister-teaPyles17:  I did my best google-fu and found others have had simaler problems there is a specific link in the ubuntu forums but the frums are down right now04:54
Pyles17mister-tea: thanks for trying. I'll figure it out eventually :-) unfortunately it means I have to use windows much more than I would like04:55
windfieldi have a problem with installing ubuntu04:55
mister-teaI read about kernel dependancies and startup daemons04:55
windfieldplease help04:55
mister-tea!ask04:56
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:56
charimswindfield: what is your problem?04:56
windfieldafter i installed kubuntu there is an error message when it boots04:56
windfieldits grub error 2504:56
charimswindfield:what is your error message?04:57
charimswindfield: ok04:57
charimswindfield: hold on04:57
windfieldits dual boot04:57
windfieldone is xp and the other one is kubuntu 8.04 in another hard disk04:57
windfieldhow do i fix this?04:57
charimswindfield: this sounds like your menu.lst file in /boot is messed up04:59
windfieldhow did that happen?04:59
windfieldis there something wrong with the partitioning?04:59
charimsnot sure, it seems more likely that grub was installed improperly, maybe if you were to pop in the livecd, and re-install grub05:00
windfieldi did that in the konsole05:01
windfieldi installed grub05:01
windfieldbut same thing happened05:01
knicI did an update and now all my kde settings got defaulted, I was wondering what file I should restore to have my the correct number of virtual desktops and the right key bindgins05:01
knicgrumble I am never upgrading while in a kde session again05:01
charimswindfield: are you installing it to the MBR?05:01
White_PelicanI came late, windfield, what's the issue?05:02
windfieldyes05:03
windfieldshould i re-install kubuntu again?05:03
charimswindfield: you could try that, be sure to reformat your root partition. As long as you have nothing to lose by it.05:04
charimswindfield: grub error 25 is a disk read error, maybe your hard drive has gone bad (not so likely) or for some reason it cannot recognize your partition.05:05
windfieldi installed kubuntu like 3 times already.05:06
windfieldsame thing happens05:06
charimswindfield: ok, than doing it again will probably not help.05:06
White_Pelicanwhat version of kubuntu?05:06
windfield8.0405:06
windfieldis there any way to fix it in Konsole05:06
charimswindfield: it suggests to me that maybe your grub is not able to access your /boot directory. Though other than that, I'm not sure I can be much help.05:07
MakuseruDoes anyone know of any programs that will let me hardsub a video file?05:07
windfieldso should i use other bootloader instead05:08
charimswindfield: not sure, like i said, i'm not sure i can help much. I did look it up in the grub documentation. "25 : Disk read error    This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to probe or read data from a particular disk.05:09
charimswindfield: is the disk sata or pata(ide)05:10
windfieldno idea05:10
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charimswindfield: did you install the drive yourself?05:10
windfieldi don't know if its sata. but i'm the one who installed the hard drive05:11
charimswindfield: did you plug in two small cables, or one large(very wide) and one small?05:12
windfieldyes05:13
charimswindfiled: which one?05:13
charimswindfield: which one?05:13
dotzzzhi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help05:15
dotzzz is it some modules i didn't load?05:15
windfieldi think it's PATA05:15
windfieldbut how does that gonna matter?05:16
charimswindfield: A serial ata, or Sata drive may have difficulty with speeds with which it communicates with your PC, you may have to locate the user manual to modify a jumper setting. A IDE(PATA, Parallel) will have a jumper setting for master, slave, or cableselect. Either way, you may have to set up the jumpers properly.05:16
windfieldso is the problem in my hard disk?05:17
charimswindfield: Not sure if that is the problem, but it is an option. Other than that, you may have a faulty cable to the hard drive(unlikely, as you were able to install to the drive)05:17
charimswindfield: not necessarily that your hard disk is causing the problem, but that GRUB in unable to access it for some reason05:18
windfieldwhat about with the windows bootloader?05:19
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windfieldwill it work?05:19
charimswindfield: When Kubuntu is installed, it will set GRUB up for an option to boot either windows or Kubuntu. the issu is that GRUB cannot load your boot loader configuration, and therefore cannot boot into any operationg system05:20
charimswindfield: you can restore your windows boot loader with your windows disk05:20
charimswindfield: but you cannot boot into linux from the windows boot loader (except i think i remember that vista can do it if set up properly using a bootloader modifying utility)05:21
windfieldi can't dual boot with ntdlr? how about Lilo?05:22
charimswindifled: As far as I know, LILO is no longer supported, though yu are welcome to try it. I think you should really focus on why GRUb isn't able to access your drive. You should proboly see someone else about that though, I'm afraid i have met my limit of knowledge.05:23
mr---t-I dual boot with grub05:23
windfieldthat's ok thnx for the help though05:24
charimswindfield: No problem. :) Good luck. I do hope you find out why GRUB is having issues.05:24
charims!grub05:24
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:24
mr---t-windows mbr must be set up first fot it to work05:24
charimsmr---t: i think his issue is that grub is giving him an error when he boots, error 25, disk read error, so it cannot acces his configuration to boot him into any OS.05:25
windfieldubottu i already did that restore mbr and reinstall grub but same thing happens there is still error05:26
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:26
mr---t-right but what I'm saying is he jas to probably fix windows first05:26
charimsWindfield is having grub issues, Error 25 on boot (disk read error) is anyone able to help?05:27
windfieldmr t there's nothing wrong with windows i guess.05:27
charimswindfield: ubottu is a bot, it responds to messages beginning with an !05:27
charims!ubottu05:28
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:28
dotzzzhi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help05:28
mr---t-can you boot to windows?05:29
windfieldyes05:29
mr---t-k05:29
windfieldafter i did fixmbr05:29
charimswindfield: I suggest you should state your question completely, along with the error, until you get help, but do not be impatient. someone will come along that can help. I must go. :) Have a good night.05:29
mr---t-then reinstalled grub?05:29
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windfieldthank you05:30
charimsGood night everyone!05:30
charims!bye05:30
ubottuAu revoir!05:30
windfieldwhen i reinstalled grub there is error msg05:30
windfieldits error 2505:30
dotzzzhi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help05:31
kevbuntuhey, how come i can't find Skype in Adept Manager in Kubuntu-8.04??05:33
mr---t-winfield here is a link to the definitions of grub errors http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2-errors05:36
emmadwidmann: what is katapult?05:37
mr---t-!skype05:37
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:37
dotzzzhi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help05:37
mr---t-I'm out night all05:38
kevbuntuthanks man05:44
windfieldhow do i fix grub error 25 after i installed kubuntu 8.04?05:49
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corinthHow can I get Dolphin to remember window size after closing in KDE 4.1.2?05:54
corinth(Using Kubuntu 8.10)05:55
VicTheHunterHello, I don't want to uninstall compiz, but how do I quit it from running during this desktop session?06:03
bilickiwhen i try to intall the ati drivers from the gui, nothing happens... it just says "downloading and installing driver.." and the bar is at 0%06:04
emilsedghVicTheHunter: kwin --replace06:05
bazhangalt f2 kwin --replace VicTheHunter06:05
kkathmanVicTheHunter:  open ksysguard with kdesu, then kill all the compiz things also06:05
kkathmanif you dont kill compiz, you'll experience video artifacts06:05
VicTheHunterkwin --replace seems to have done the job.  How does it work?06:07
bazhangVicTheHunter, you did with alt f2 or terminal06:08
kkathmanVicTheHunter:  are you using multiple desktops ??06:08
kkathmanyou still may need to kill the compiz agents, hopefully you wont...I had to, after speaking with KDE devs over the weekend06:09
corinthHow can I get Dolphin to remember window size after closing in KDE 4.1.2?06:13
VicTheHunterI opened a terminal, and typed kwin --replace06:14
corinthWhat desktop/OS are you using, VicTheHunter?06:14
VicTheHuntercorinth, I'm using KDE on Ubuntu 8.0406:15
* corinth blinks06:15
corinthYou should be able to turn it off or on permanatly using the Desktop Effects tool. It's in the repos, VicTheHunter06:17
VicTheHuntercorinth, Repos> do you mean repositories?06:20
corinthVicTheHunter: Yes.06:22
corinthJust search for Desktop Effects, and install the Kubuntu version (If it's not already installed, it may be)06:22
VicTheHuntercorinth, Ok, Thank very much for your assistance!06:25
VicTheHunterI like the compiz effects, but my PC performance suffers noticeably while it is running.06:26
VicTheHunterThat's just a comment.06:26
creativehello, ive downloaded kubuntu but when i try to boot i just get a black screen with turned off monitor (ati radeon x1600)06:30
CourtJesterGOK WHAT IS EXACTLY KATE IS IT A COMPILER CAUSE THATS NOT WHAT I AM FEELING WHEN SKIMMING THROUGH THE HELP PAGES06:32
CourtJesterGsry caps06:32
CourtJesterGok this chat channel officail sucks balls barely nobody answers any questions and when they do they just refer you bs i say06:34
bazhangCourtJesterG, please watch the language06:34
bazhang!info kate06:34
ubottukate (source: kdesdk): KDE 4 Advanced Text Editor. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 876 kB, installed size 2448 kB06:34
CourtJesterGi didn't curse so don't tell me to watch my language06:35
stdinCourtJesterG: watch your attitude in here06:35
stdin!guidelines06:35
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:35
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CourtJesterGso back to my question it is jsut a text editor for viewing and such but not a compiler i unddderstand GCC is one but i also heard at the linux site g++ is one aalso there is a graphical one of sorts for kde in adept what do you reccomened?06:36
stdinkate isn't a compiler, it can be used to compile stuff. as it has a built-in shell and syntax highlighting. But for a real IDE try KDevelop06:37
CourtJesterGok thanks06:38
stdinoh, and g++ and gcc are the same thing (generally). gcc is  for C, g++ is for C++06:39
CourtJesterGanother question one reason why i am asking besides i am going to start refreshing my self with development in ccertain project areas. I click on an agree button to enter an online game through a site it kicked back at me a .php file with my information at it something you nornally don't   see in windows and kate opned it up but of course it didn't start the game06:44
CourtJesterGso any idea how i am suppose to use this .php file to get to playing my online game?06:46
CourtJesterGi already know about wine used it to run the .exe to install the game on the machine but you still have to enter it through the site after pressing the agree button06:47
CourtJesterGanybody?06:48
stdinCourtJesterG: that's a bug in their website and konqueror. the easiest fix is to use another browser such as firefox06:48
stdinthey tell konqueror the data is plain text, even though it's not06:49
CourtJesterGcool i already have firefox with the replacement extendion thought i tryed it will try again06:49
CourtJesterGthat is good though for konqueror they gave me a piece of data i never seen before i would like to take this game apart and remake it totally new06:50
sorush20Hi all I have a motherboard that has the time set to one hour earilier that the os. When I setup kde to update with ntp.uwe.ac.uk it works but after a  reboot this time setting is lost and the time changes back to the motherboard time again. How do I make the time update with ntp.uwe.ac.uk automatically everytime kde start with out making a manual script?07:02
stdinsorush20: edit /etc/default/ntpdate and it should run whenever your network comes up automatically07:06
sorush20stdin: is that a bug cause its too manual..07:11
stdinsorush20: there's probably a GUI for it in system settings somewhere07:12
sorush20stdin: FYI I don't have a file called /etc/ntp.conf  is that a problem .. I've made the changes .. hope it worked next time I start07:12
sorush20stdin: I know how to do that but the time change doesn't remain when I restart.07:12
stdinsorush20: the app "ntpdate-debian" should run when your network comes up. ran from /etc/default/ntpdate. ntpdate-debian reads /etc/default/ntpdate by default07:13
josramirobvExcuse me, speak spanish ???07:14
stdin!es | josramirobv07:14
ubottujosramirobv: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.07:14
josramirobvBuenas Noches07:14
stephanHi i am having troubles getting kubuntu to recognize my Wifi any suggestions?07:16
ptlno suggestions besides "upgrade to the latest level"07:21
stephanok I went to the apt updater and APT Database could not be opened07:27
stephanadept*07:28
Trustn01were can i get server help07:37
CostaRicanQuakerhelp, can't get my sound files/mp3 to play on any of the players, i've xine, audacious, audacity, amarok, vlc, and they just get stuck or crash if i click on any of the files07:38
CourtJesterGHAS EVERYONE noticed amarok isn't up to date?07:39
CostaRicanQuakeri opened a file with vlc07:41
CostaRicanQuakerbut theres no sound07:41
CourtJesterGso why doesn't it show the up to date verison in adept? when the site has a newer version?07:41
CostaRicanQuakereven though it looks as tho it was playing07:41
Trustn01i need help on sql and freeradius07:41
CourtJesterGthis keeps up just might take everything out of the computer and do a search on the interentt with out resporiarters07:43
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Daisuke_IdoCourtJesterG: what's out of date?07:48
CourtJesterGhttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Kubuntu07:49
CourtJesterGDevelopment version: Amarok 2.0.0 Beta 3 (1.94)07:49
Daisuke_Idono, that's the latest *beta*07:50
CourtJesterGthe version adept has say 1.4.10 using kde 3.5.1007:50
Daisuke_Idonot the latest version of amarok07:50
Daisuke_Idothe latest version of amarok IS 1.4.1007:50
Daisuke_Idoare you using hardy or intrepid?07:51
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CourtJesterGlolhow they jump from 1.4.10 too 2.0.0?07:51
Daisuke_IdoCourtJesterG: how does anything go from one major version to another?07:52
CourtJesterGnot sure my self how do i check if i am useing hardy or intrepid?07:52
Daisuke_Idolsb_release -a07:52
CourtJesterGDistributor ID: Ubuntu07:53
CourtJesterGDescription:    Ubuntu 8.1007:53
CourtJesterGRelease:        8.1007:53
CourtJesterGCodename:       intrepid07:53
Daisuke_Idojust needed intrepid :)07:53
Daisuke_Idoi don't know if beta 3 has made it into intrepid yet, let me look07:53
CourtJesterGyou know why is it called Ubuntu when its called Kubuntu i mean why still use the name Ubuntu if it really wants to fork off?07:54
Daisuke_Idoit's not a fork, just ubuntu with kde07:54
CourtJesterGso i got the mac version which i like07:54
CourtJesterGi got this kitten running around my windows its white trys to talk but doesn't say anything lol07:55
CourtJesterGits like my personal friend07:55
CourtJesterGlol07:55
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CourtJesterGso what s the differeence between intrepid and hardy just a version name?07:56
CourtJesterGnevermind i think i am getting tired lol07:57
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courtjestergwho said kdevelop was a compiler? I am reading wikipedia righ tnow08:19
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courtjestergKDevelop is a free software integrated development environment for the KDE desktop environment for Unix-like computer operating systems. KDevelop does not include a compiler; instead, it uses an external compiler such as gcc to produce executable code.08:19
courtjestergThe current version, 3.5, supports many programming languages such as Ada, Bash, C, C++, Fortran, Java, Pascal, Perl, PHP, Python and Ruby. Released under the GNU General Public License, KDevelop is free software.08:19
courtjestergit sounds like anohtter text editor and you have to download gcc to compiler then code lies all lies08:21
courtjestergi know kate hasa  pluin for kdeveloper08:21
RandyCaliforniahello!08:22
courtjesterghi08:36
courtjestergahoy08:36
RandyCaliforniahello!08:40
RandyCaliforniahow are you?08:40
RandyCalifornia...........................08:41
RandyCalifornia?08:41
* dwidmann yawns08:41
RandyCalifornia:S08:42
RandyCaliforniayawns?08:42
RandyCaliforniawhy?08:42
RandyCalifornia:S08:42
RandyCaliforniaso, what's going on?08:43
RandyCaliforniawhat is this IRC thing?08:43
RandyCalifornia??08:44
RandyCalifornia????08:44
dwidmannRandyCalifornia: late at night ... not many people around08:47
RandyCaliforniaoh....08:49
RandyCaliforniaI see08:49
szrhawaiihello anyone home08:49
RandyCaliforniahellp srzhawaii08:49
szrhawaiidoes anyone know what i need to download to get amarok to play all audio files08:49
Colonel_Panichey can anyone help ,e with a wine question?08:50
Colonel_Panic*me*08:50
Colonel_PanicI'm trying to install the .NET framework08:50
RandyCaliforniahmm...08:50
RandyCalifornialet me see....08:50
szrhawaiiwine is for people who couldnt severe the tie from windows08:50
RandyCaliforniaoh!08:50
RandyCaliforniaI know this one08:50
RandyCaliforniago to adept manager08:50
RandyCaliforniaand type "xine"08:51
szrhawaiithat would be my guess on that08:51
dwidmannszrhawaii: installing libxine1-ffmpeg I think08:51
RandyCaliforniathen, install xine08:51
Colonel_PanicI have to run this shitty-ass Win32 app so I have no choice08:51
szrhawaiithat sucks08:51
dwidmannColonel_Panic: trying, not succeeding?08:51
szrhawaiiok ill check xine08:51
dwidmannszrhawaii: installing libxine1-ffmpeg I think08:51
Colonel_PanicWINE not XINE08:51
RandyCaliforniaI always try to install wine, but it says it's broken08:51
szrhawaiiif your talking about the player i dont like xine08:52
Colonel_PanicXINE is a movie player08:52
RandyCaliforniayes08:52
szrhawaiiim talking to someone else colonel08:52
RandyCaliforniaand in order to play08:52
RandyCaliforniaaudio files in amarok08:52
Colonel_PanicI'm talking about WINE, the Win32 emulator08:52
RandyCaliforniayou have to install xine08:52
szrhawaiibut i dont want that player i like my other player08:52
dwidmannszrhawaii: amarok uses xine. Dot.08:52
yudii'm beginner in linux08:52
RandyCaliforniabecause it uses xine libraries08:52
RandyCaliforniaor somethinh like that08:52
szrhawaiiok ill use dwidmanns theory and do the lib file08:53
RandyCaliforniaso.... install it and you'll be able to play audio files in amarok08:53
RandyCalifornia:(08:53
courtjestergwhat is xine?08:53
szrhawaiii just dont want the player that comes with it08:54
courtjestergno i got one how come dragon doeswork?08:54
RandyCaliforniaxine is a media player08:54
courtjestergi tryed playing a movie and no meda installed after i already downloadded it08:54
courtjestergdoes it work08:54
RandyCaliforniayes08:54
szrhawaiii had my amarok working great before i just forgot what i didn08:55
szrhawaiiit played all files mp3,mp4 everything08:55
courtjestergbut maybe i want to use dragon how can i use dragon i like the name and it was already installed standard08:55
Colonel_Panicso I'm guessing nobody in here nkows what the hell I'm talking about?08:55
dwidmanncourtjesterg: just open a video or audio file with it.08:55
szrhawaiiits still saying some media cant be loaded08:56
dwidmannColonel_Panic: what does appdb.winehq.org say about it?08:56
courtjestergi was on the internet looking up porn you can say pressed open and it wouldn't open the movie08:56
RandyCalifornia:S08:56
courtjestergno media it says08:56
dwidmannszrhawaii: did you quit and restart amarok?08:56
RandyCaliforniaporn?08:56
RandyCalifornialol08:56
Colonel_PanicI followed the instructions but it doesn't seem to work at all08:56
courtjestergits an example08:56
szrhawaiiim doing that right now i forgot to08:56
courtjesterg;)08:56
dwidmannColonel_Panic: what version of wine were they using?08:56
szrhawaiithere it is yay08:56
Colonel_Panic1.1.something08:57
szrhawaiithanks dwimann08:57
Colonel_PanicI have 1.1.808:57
courtjestergcolonel you have to add it to the applications list08:57
courtjesterghere let me check my settings08:57
szrhawaiiwine sucks08:57
szrhawaiilol08:57
Colonel_Panicapplications list?08:57
courtjestergok go to config wine08:58
Colonel_Panicok there08:58
courtjestergin graphics check everything and put in your screen size08:58
dwidmannszrhawaii: considering that they had to reverse engineer practically everything, wine works surprisingly well08:58
szrhawaiidid they get the bugs out yet08:58
courtjestergin application settings there is where you have to add the program you want to use08:58
courtjestergi used it to run an .exe install08:59
Colonel_Panicyeah I see it08:59
szrhawaiii know when i used it a few months ago it was still giving the system problems08:59
courtjestergit worked08:59
szrhawaiii just stopped using windows products all together08:59
Colonel_PanicMost of the stuff I use it for08:59
Colonel_PanicWine works great for all the stuff I use it for08:59
courtjestergyeah well my game is i guess not built for windows08:59
Colonel_PanicOK yeah, the applicaiotn settings08:59
courtjestergunless anyone know how to convert an .exe install newbiee people09:00
szrhawaiiwhat you using wine for09:00
Colonel_PanicI have to add the .NET app I want to run in there?09:00
szrhawaiijust get the converters on adept manager and your goo09:00
szrhawaiid09:00
courtjestergi used to learn how to program in borlans c and c++09:00
szrhawaiifor most things09:00
Colonel_Panicszrhawaii: random shit09:00
courtjestergreally09:00
szrhawaiiyeah i know09:00
szrhawaiihuh09:00
courtjestergthere is converters09:00
courtjesterghmm09:00
Colonel_PanicPhotoshop, some games...09:00
szrhawaiijust random09:00
Colonel_Panica few things09:01
Colonel_PanicI don'09:01
Colonel_Panictt use it often09:01
Colonel_PanicOK I need to add the application in there, right?09:01
szrhawaiii meant for most files you can use converters09:01
courtjestergok looking at KCachegrind in development09:02
Mo0oSaHhow do you add your own feeds to aRSS?09:02
courtjestergso what is the excutable for linux?09:02
courtjestergnamed?09:02
Colonel_PanicOK I've added the applicaiotn to the Application Settings list09:03
Colonel_Panicnow what settings do I have to change for it?09:03
courtjestergok make sure you check everything in graphics and set your screen size also the options in audio09:03
courtjestergthen when done go to use wine regularly09:04
Colonel_Panicthose aren't the problems09:04
Colonel_Panicthe problem is, it's an app that requires the .NET Framework to run, and I can't install the damn .NEt Framework09:04
wisthler_bonjour09:05
courtjestergyou have to it makes a virtual desktop temporaly to run those windows programs thats why you have to set the graphic user interface audio is jsut in case09:05
Colonel_Panic...09:05
Colonel_PanicI need to get .NEt installed09:05
Colonel_Panicor the app won't run09:05
courtjestergthats why it makes a false c virtual drive09:05
Colonel_Panicand I have been trying to install.NET but it won't work09:05
courtjestergwell jsut tell you how i got my .exe installed09:06
Colonel_Panicthe C drive is a directory in my .wine dir09:06
courtjestergany other way i was stuck at a black screen and haveing to restart09:06
Colonel_Panicthat's not the problem I'm having09:07
Colonel_PanicI unbderstand that yo have to run setup.exe files in a virtual desktop09:07
dwidmannColonel_Panic: what version of the .net framework are you trying to install? 3.5? 3.0? 2.0? 1.1? 1.0?09:07
Colonel_PanicI know about that09:07
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Colonel_PanicI have tried to install 1.1 and 2.009:08
courtjestergjust look i got internet exploer installed ack09:08
courtjestergits in wine09:08
Colonel_Panic2.0 is the most recent, isn't it?09:08
szrhawaiihey court did you check mscompress09:08
courtjesterglet me see09:09
Colonel_Panicanyway, this program is a standalone app. It doesn't require installation09:09
Colonel_Panicbut it relies on the .NEt runtime dlls09:09
Colonel_Panicwhich I don't have, because every time I try to install .NET Framework according to the instructions on the WineHQ website, the .NET installer quits with an error09:10
courtjestergi didn't see mscompress anywhere in wine options09:10
szrhawaiino in adept manager09:10
szrhawaiimy bad09:10
dwidmannColonel_Panic: Hmm, 2.0, (not 2.0 sp1) should work ...09:10
Colonel_Panicuh yeah09:10
dwidmannassuming this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=375409:10
Colonel_PanicI believe it should09:11
Colonel_Panicbut it keeps crashing on me09:11
Colonel_Panicyo know what?09:11
Colonel_PanicFuck it.09:11
ghHow does one connect to the internet using 8.10? I have never been able to connect using kde4 including 8.04 kde4. However, both kubuntu 8.04 and ubuntu 8.10 connect very simple. My setup is very simple, but after using knetworkmanager nothing happens. When I add connections they never.. connect. I can redo it 10 times with the same results.09:11
courtjestergwhere in adept is mscompress?09:11
Colonel_PanicI have an old Windows laptop around here somewhere09:11
szrhawaiias per your exe file stuff you should type in exe and find a program in adept manager to see what it offers for writable executables09:11
Colonel_PanicI'll just run the damn program on that machine09:12
dwidmannColonel_Panic: I frequently come to that conclusion (well, not the windows one, the line before that)09:12
szrhawaiitype it on the search tool09:12
Colonel_Panicwell, this is an encryption/archive program that's not available for Linux as far as I know09:12
dwidmann!info mscompress | courtjesterg09:12
ubottucourtjesterg: mscompress (source: mscompress): Microsoft "compress.exe/expand.exe" compatible (de)compressor. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3-3 (intrepid), package size 8 kB, installed size 80 kB09:12
szrhawaiihey why is anti virus xp 2008 such a mean ass virus09:13
szrhawaiithat thing is really good at infecting machines right now running windows09:14
szrhawaiiproducts09:14
szrhawaiihas anyone got that on windows yet09:14
ghI am installing it via media/cd not upgrading via dist-upgrade09:14
dwidmann!windows09:14
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents09:14
szrhawaiiim just asking if you seen it before09:14
RandyCaliforniahey!09:15
courtjestergi browsed for mscompressed came up none09:15
courtjestergmscompress09:15
RandyCaliforniaisthere support09:15
dwidmannHmm, I don't think I've booted Windows since I finished FEAR: Perseus Mandate09:15
szrhawaiiits mscompress09:15
RandyCaliforniafor rmvb files09:15
szrhawaiinot compressed09:16
RandyCaliforniaon Kubuntu?09:16
RandyCaliforniaPPC?09:16
ghWith previous versions it was simple to connect the machince but with kde4 knetworkmanager doesn't actually do anything but display an icon?09:16
szrhawaiiwho likes ubuntu better09:16
szrhawaiior i should say gnome09:16
ghI can connect the box with ubuntu09:16
szrhawaiihas anyone tried xfce09:16
RandyCaliforniaI like kubuntu better09:16
RandyCaliforniaxfce is good09:16
courtjestergstill not showing up09:16
Colonel_Panicgnomes are creatures that Robert Plant likes to sing about09:16
RandyCaliforniabut not for me :D09:16
Colonel_PanicI prefer KDE09:17
Colonel_Panicactually, I really used to like Enlightenment09:17
szrhawaiii heard if your running atis its better to run kde or myth09:17
szrhawaiiwhich runs a xfce base09:17
courtjestergwhat is mscompress for?09:17
szrhawaiii heard enlightenment is good too09:17
Colonel_PanicEnlightenment used to be a beautiful WM09:18
Colonel_Panicso simple09:18
Colonel_Panicno bullshitr09:18
Colonel_PanicI kinda miss it09:18
szrhawaiiyeah well kubuntu is fairly easy once you figure out where everything is09:18
Colonel_Panicsomebody ought to put together an Ubuntu distro with Enlightenment09:18
szrhawaiiprobably09:19
Colonel_Panichave any of you tried Xubuntu?09:19
* dwidmann likes flluxbox09:19
szrhawaiii tried it09:19
szrhawaiifor a minute09:19
szrhawaiiit was really basic09:19
szrhawaiiit looked like windows 9809:20
Colonel_PanicI used to use fluxbox09:20
ghthanks for the lack of help09:20
Colonel_Panicon Gentoo, like 3 years ago09:20
Colonel_Panicgh: what's your problem?09:21
Colonel_Panicbah09:21
Colonel_Panicwhatevah09:21
courtjestergmscompress?09:21
szrhawaiigh your having the same problem i had earlier with my friends comp09:21
szrhawaiiis your toggle not working09:22
szrhawaiior does your wireless on but its not connecting to the software09:22
szrhawaiior is your wireless on and not connecting to the software09:22
dwidmannszrhawaii: if you haven't noticed, gh left.09:22
szrhawaiihe did09:23
szrhawaiipoor guy09:23
dwidmannszrhawaii: without patience he won't have much luck.09:23
supertonesdoes ati or nvidia work better these days?09:23
RandyCaliforniaNvidia09:23
RandyCaliforniawell, both09:23
RandyCaliforniaalthough I prefer Nvidia :D09:23
supertonesI'm buying a card tomorrow and don't know what to buy09:24
szrhawaiidepends which one you got09:24
RandyCaliforniathe ATI I have sucks09:24
courtjestergmscompress is under hardy09:24
supertonesi was thinking ati 345009:24
RandyCaliforniawell, may be cause is only 8 mb09:24
RandyCalifornialol09:24
courtjesterghttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/otherosfs/mscompre09:24
dwidmannIf ATI continues improving at the current rate I might be able to say one is better than the other inside a year09:24
szrhawaiiyeah that could be it09:24
RandyCaliforniayeah....09:24
RandyCaliforniaanyways, have any of you any experience with XNA?09:25
supertonesati releases drivers often?09:25
RandyCaliforniayes....09:25
courtjestergi am using the othe one whats the differece between hardy and lib09:25
* supertones would have to have windows to code xna09:25
RandyCalifornia:S09:25
courtjestergintrepid09:25
surmakubuntu.pl09:25
RandyCaliforniaI was trying to be full Linux,09:25
RandyCaliforniabut there are two things that are stopping me:09:26
RandyCaliforniaFlash Video(youtube) and MSN emoticos09:26
RandyCaliforniaemoticons*09:26
supertoneslike coding flash?09:26
szrhawaiimy youtube works09:26
RandyCaliforniano, youtube doesn't work for me09:27
supertonesI'm close to satisfied with my flash09:27
szrhawaiiand i use msn emoticons on mine09:27
szrhawaiiit does for me09:27
RandyCaliforniabecause I'm using an Ibook09:27
supertonesoh09:27
szrhawaiiyou gotta get firefox09:27
RandyCaliforniayep09:27
RandyCaliforniaI have firefox09:27
szrhawaiii can tell you the plugins you need09:27
RandyCaliforniabut there is no Flash for Linux PPC09:27
RandyCalifornia:(09:27
szrhawaiigive me a sec i check on them09:27
szrhawaiiyeah theres a plug in for it09:27
supertonesdamn closed source09:27
RandyCaliforniaGnash is not stable enough09:27
RandyCalifornia:(09:27
szrhawaiii was watching youtube earlier09:27
szrhawaiii only have kde09:27
apparleI use OSS drivers, how to enable sounds on Dragon player09:27
supertonesapparle: try the gstreamer backend09:28
szrhawaiino not with gnash thats shitty09:28
courtjestergFilelist of package mscompress in intrepid of architecture i38609:28
courtjesterg/usr/bin/mscompress09:28
courtjesterg/usr/bin/msexpand09:28
courtjesterg/usr/share/doc/mscompress/changelog.Debian.gz09:28
courtjesterg/usr/share/doc/mscompress/changelog.gz09:28
courtjesterg/usr/share/doc/mscompress/copyright09:28
courtjesterg/usr/share/man/man1/mscompress.1.gz09:28
courtjesterg/usr/share/man/man1/msexpand.1.gz09:28
RandyCaliforniawhich should I use?09:28
supertonesi cant wait for flash64 bit support09:28
dwidmannszrhawaii:  IIRC he's right, there is no flash plugin for the ****PPC***** microarchitecture09:28
szrhawaiitry libflash-swfplayer09:28
supertonesnswrapper sucks09:28
RandyCaliforniaon PPC?09:29
dwidmann!paste | courtjesterg09:29
ubottucourtjesterg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:29
szrhawaiior libflash-mozplugin09:29
szrhawaiiim not sure on ppc09:29
szrhawaiii just know mine works with these09:29
RandyCaliforniabut does work in the pwer arch?09:29
szrhawaiinot sure you can always try09:30
szrhawaiinever hurts if not delete it09:30
* supertones is guessing no09:30
courtjestergsso what exactly does mscompress do for me  with my .exe use it as an install instead of wine?09:30
szrhawaiilibflash0c209:30
dwidmanncourtjesterg: I think all that does is unpack exe files09:31
courtjesterg* msexpand which decompresses files compressed by the Microsoft09:31
courtjesterg   compress.exe utility (e.g. Win 3.x installation files);09:31
courtjesterg * mscompress which compresses files using the LZ77 compression09:31
courtjesterg   algorithm.09:31
szrhawaiiswfdec-mozilla09:32
RandyCalifornia:O09:32
courtjestergi am calling all this a re crash course09:32
courtjestergi have been with out me computer for sometime even been home less last year for a time09:32
szrhawaiianyone home09:35
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apparlewhat does the ("Composite" "true") in xorg.conf mean09:35
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szrhawaiitrue composite09:36
szrhawaiiwhat does composite mean09:36
szrhawaii   1. A structure or an entity made up of distinct components.09:37
szrhawaiithats what composite means09:37
stdinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing09:38
szrhawaiiif its a noun09:38
szrhawaii9. a picture, photograph, or the like, that combines several separate pictures.09:38
szrhawaiiif its an09:39
szrhawaiicomposite09:39
szrhawaiiSponsored Links Online Composites Library09:39
szrhawaiiBuy technical books, studies composites manufacturers directory09:39
szrhawaiiwww.JecComposites.com09:39
* supertones is having trouble pulling the trigger on an ati card without being able to find user reviews09:39
apparleI cant see the video though I hear the voice in andy of xine based players, help09:39
dwidmannapparle: what video codec?09:39
szrhawaiithats a defintition there09:40
szrhawaiiis he alive09:40
szrhawaiiguess not09:41
szrhawaiihe must have taken a break09:41
szrhawaiiso is kde for have a different feel and look to it than kde 309:42
apparleszrhawaii: When I enable composite in xorg.conf, I can and use Kwin effects but I am not able to see any video play, only hear sound. But If i disable composite, I can see the video play but kwin stops09:42
szrhawaiii meant kde 4 vs kde 309:42
dwidmannapparle: what video card? which drivers for it?09:43
apparleati with fglrx drivers09:43
* dwidmann sighs09:44
dwidmannThat driver has always had so many problems09:44
szrhawaiiuse a different window manager09:45
apparlewhat's the fuss with xine, why can't it play video when composite is enabled09:45
apparleszrhawaii: u talking to me??09:45
szrhawaiiwhy dont you use vlc09:46
dwidmannapparle: not xine's fault As far as I can tell ... probably fglrx's09:46
dwidmannCome to think of it, I have an idea.09:46
RandyCalifornianope09:47
szrhawaiitry VLC09:47
dwidmannapparle: change the Video Out driver (vo) in your video player to "opengl"09:47
RandyCaliforniano flash for PowerPC09:47
RandyCalifornia:(09:47
szrhawaiistill nothing huh09:47
apparleI am downloading it, but I want to keep my system light and had to install xine for amarok so I thought, use it for video also09:47
RandyCaliforniawhy do you mean by using MSN emoticons?09:47
dwidmannapparle: change the Video Out driver (vo) in your video player to "opengl"09:47
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RandyCaliforniapeople send me emoticons,09:48
szrhawaiii guess your system is different mine takes to kde like duck to water09:48
RandyCalifornia no the ones that msn has, but new ones09:48
RandyCaliforniaand I'm not able to save them for use them later on :(09:48
szrhawaiiwhy dont you make your own09:48
apparledwidmann: I tried it in kaffeine but it said can init opengl using auto09:48
szrhawaiiits timely09:48
szrhawaiibut you will have an appreciation for them when you finish09:49
RandyCaliforniaI made my own, but my friends just receive strings, not the emoticon09:49
szrhawaiioh that sucks09:49
RandyCaliforniaI wanted to use gaim09:49
szrhawaiii have that problem with this one icon set i have and its a good set too09:50
RandyCaliforniabut it doesn't work :S09:50
szrhawaiibut i guess certain ones work and some dont09:50
zeltakhi09:50
RandyCalifornianope, none of them worked09:50
zeltakanyone know of a good podcast software for kde?09:50
RandyCaliforniaI'm using kopete09:50
dwidmannRandyCalifornia: I use Kopete ... when people send me emoticons I can see them just fine.09:50
szrhawaiiisnt pigin gaims set up now09:50
RandyCaliforniaI'm able to see them, but not to send them09:50
RandyCaliforniayes,09:51
szrhawaiikopete works good recieving but some icons dont send09:51
RandyCaliforniabut adept doesn't show anything when I search for Pidgin09:51
apparlehow to check if your graphic card supports compositing09:51
szrhawaiigo to adept manager and type in pod cast zeltak09:52
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szrhawaiifor real that sucks09:52
szrhawaiiwhat does it say when you type in gaim09:52
camerii installed kbfx but it didn't automatically replace my launcher09:53
RandyCaliforniait shows gaim. So, I click install and then when I try to run it, nothing happens09:53
camerihow do i manually replace it?09:53
RandyCaliforniait says "core dumped"09:53
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szrhawaiiwell kopete works ok09:53
zeltakthx szrhawaii, i just kinfa wanted personal recommendations09:53
dwidmannapparle: most cards can, but it also really depends on the video driver, a lot.09:53
szrhawaiitheres not much difference except you get myspace im on it09:54
zeltakfor a good and still in development podcatcher09:54
zeltakbut ill also try adept09:54
RandyCaliforniaindeed, it does, but I want to be able to save emoticons and send them later on09:54
szrhawaiithe good thing about it is if you dont like it just uninstall and try the next one09:54
szrhawaiiare you running kopete right now09:55
RandyCaliforniayep09:55
szrhawaiithats wierd that yours doesnt save09:55
szrhawaiido you have it saved in a file for later09:55
szrhawaiitry going to the root and seeing if its saved there09:55
RandyCaliforniano. When I right click the emoticon,09:56
RandyCaliforniait only copies the name of the emoticon09:56
apparledwidmann: so finally what to do about video playback09:56
RandyCaliforniause Xine :)09:56
RandyCaliforniaor Mplayer09:56
szrhawaiiVLC works good09:56
RandyCaliforniaoh yeah, VLC is good!09:56
szrhawaiiit works in windows and here09:56
cameriszrhawaii: do you know how to configure KDE4.1 to allow KBFX to take place as the Launcher?09:56
RandyCaliforniathe new one is even better09:56
ptlkaffeine, dragonplayer09:57
szrhawaiii just do my launchers manually09:57
dwidmannapparle: if your card/driver can't handle XV, and you can't use opengl while compositiing ... then your options are pretty limited.09:57
ptlkmplayer09:57
szrhawaiii dont use kbfx09:57
cameriok09:57
szrhawaiii think it sucks09:57
RandyCaliforniarealplayer?09:57
dwidmannapparle: regardless of the application that's playing them.09:57
szrhawaiikaffeine is good too09:57
bdgrauerealplayer is badware!09:57
RandyCaliforniahow so?09:58
szrhawaiicameri if you save the png file of the pic you want and make it the right size you can make your own09:58
dwidmannrealplayer on linux is helixplayer with some stuff tacked on to the top ...09:58
RandyCaliforniaI've been using it since I was 14 years old09:58
szrhawaiiinstead of using kbfx09:58
szrhawaiiwhat are you using kbfx for anyways cameri09:59
dwidmannapparle: for curiosities sake, which card is it, exactly?09:59
camerii want to try it out09:59
szrhawaiididnt he say ati09:59
camerii cant use it though09:59
cameriit doesnt appear as a widget10:00
dwidmannszrhawaii: that's the manufacturer of the chipset, not the manufacturer, make, or model of the card.10:00
szrhawaiiohh you want the whole low down on that10:00
szrhawaiiwhat are you trying to change cameri10:00
szrhawaiimaybe theres a better program to use10:01
camerimaybe.. who knows10:01
camerii just wanted to see how it looked10:01
szrhawaiii like superkaramba for widgets10:01
camerisuperkaramba?10:01
szrhawaiiit works decent10:01
cameriwhere can i get that :D10:01
RandyCaliforniawhat's superkaramba?10:01
szrhawaiiyeah hit up your adept manager10:01
cameridone10:01
szrhawaiiits a widget program that runs widgets on your desktop10:02
camerifound it10:02
* cameri installs superkaramba10:02
RandyCalifornialike google desktop?10:02
dwidmannszrhawaii: I'm pretty sure plasma + plasmoids intends to completely replace superkaramba10:02
cameridone10:02
szrhawaiiyeah it does but superkaramba is basic for easy stuff10:02
szrhawaiiplasma and plasmoids work good too10:02
RandyCaliforniais there any program that looks like google desktop?10:03
camerii got it installed, now what :D?10:03
RandyCaliforniaor the thing on windows vista?10:03
camerii didnt see any new widgets, do i have to reboot?10:03
szrhawaiiopen it and go to install new stuff10:03
cameriok10:03
szrhawaiino you can browse for widgets on it10:03
RandyCalifornia?10:04
cameriwhich do u recommend10:04
szrhawaiii would do both10:04
szrhawaiiyou get more if you go to the website10:04
szrhawaiiwww.kde-look.org10:05
cameriokay10:05
cameriwell thans man10:05
camerig210:05
camerig2g10:05
szrhawaiithen look on the left for superkaramba10:05
camerigot work today >.<10:05
RandyCaliforniado I need to install something else in order to run superkaramba?10:05
szrhawaiione more thing10:05
cameriaha?10:05
szrhawaiiwhen you download the file make sure you right click the theme file and preess run with superkaramba10:05
szrhawaiithen your good10:06
cameriok10:06
szrhawaiiits easy10:06
camerithx, bye!10:06
szrhawaiino problem10:06
szrhawaiino you dont randy10:06
szrhawaiiit runs just on that program10:07
RandyCalifornia:D10:07
szrhawaiihey dwidmann do you know a good firewall setup for my browser that you would recommend10:07
apparledwidmann: sorry,I was away. I have on board ATI radeon xpress10:07
apparleOn the card I use overlay-type as XV10:08
szrhawaiii think hes sleeping10:08
dwidmannszrhawaii: linux has got a firewall built in .. you've just gotta configure it. Firestarter seems to be the popular choice for a GUI way of doing it.10:08
szrhawaiijust wanted to see if you had a recommendation ill check that out10:09
dwidmannapparle: definitely post on ubuntuforums.org about it and see if you can find anything out ... it could be something to do with the way you have X configure also (contents of the xorg.conf)10:09
RandyCaliforniaI installed superkaramba10:10
szrhawaiihey dwidmann is firestater set up kind of like a tor program10:10
RandyCaliforniabut nothing happens to my desktop10:10
dwidmannszrhawaii: nah, tor is something else entirely10:10
szrhawaiinothing is gonna happen you have to download the packages to run with it10:10
szrhawaiiis there something like that on here10:10
szrhawaiidwidmann10:11
apparle!restrictedformats10:11
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:11
dwidmannszrhawaii: something like tor? sure, there's tor :P10:11
szrhawaiihaha10:12
szrhawaiitheres one in the adept right10:12
RandyCaliforniaI already install a package10:12
dwidmannszrhawaii: sudo apt-get install tor if you want to ... for the rest of the setup of it you'll have to find yourself some instructions to follow online10:12
dwidmannszrhawaii: probably not for the faint of heart10:12
courtjestergdid you know the new version of windows is probally going to use qt10:12
dwidmanncourtjesterg: use it for?10:13
courtjestergit system10:13
dwidmannThat sounds highly unlikely10:13
szrhawaiirandy do you have it open it says ad to desktop or uninstall on the program window10:14
RandyCaliforniaI got it :D thanks10:14
RandyCalifornialooks awesome good!10:14
szrhawaiidwidmann would you recommend tor10:15
szrhawaiino prob randy its easy to use huh10:15
dwidmannszrhawaii: well, if you need want the anonymity, go right ahead, if you don't mind the network speed hit10:15
szrhawaiiso it slows you down a bit10:16
dwidmannszrhawaii: well, it "onion routes" you through other computers ... the more it has to pass through the slower it gets, also, your speed will only be as fast as the slowest link in the chain.10:17
szrhawaiisounds like a hassle10:18
adyhi anybody can help me ? I don't know how to mount permanently my second HDD without formatting it ?10:18
dwidmannszrhawaii: well, after the initial setup it will be transparent to you ... but that's how it works10:19
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo10:20
makdaknifeady: what's the problem?10:20
makdaknifehi ActionParsnip110:20
adyI don't know the command to do that, Im a newbie with kubuntu10:21
apparleWhy partition of my harddisk are not mounted automatically10:21
adyDo you know how could I do that ?10:21
courtjestergdoes anyone else have these programs installed and do i really needs them i might of downloaded them10:22
makdaknifeady: the easiest way to set up a disk to mount at boot... if you're new... is to use the tools provided in the KDE System Settings10:22
makdaknifeady: go to your System Settings and click on the Advanced tab...10:22
courtjestergsettings software settings10:22
dwidmannapparle: if they're not in the /etc/fstab, they won't be mounted automatically10:22
makdaknifeady: then go to Disk and Filesystems10:22
RandyCaliforniawell, gtg10:23
RandyCaliforniasee ya late10:23
courtjestergsynaptic package manager10:23
adyok10:23
makdaknifeady: you will need to change to Administrator mode (enter you password)10:23
courtjestergin system10:23
adyok10:23
szrhawaiior adept if hes using kde 310:23
makdaknifeady: then you should see your disk listed there, and you can set a mount point and fstype etc etc10:23
ActionParsnip1apparle: add an entry for it to /etc/fstab and it will be10:23
adyOk, Im trying this10:24
makdaknifeady: see how you go and if you get stuck give us a shout10:24
adythis process won't format my HDD, is it ?10:24
brett_hey all, i'm having a helluva time getting kde working right after upgrading to 8.10 today (previously on 3.5, now obvsly on 4.1). nvidia driver in particularly is causing me grief. does anyone have experience in this area?10:24
apparleActionParsnip1: how to add entries10:24
ActionParsnip1!fstab | apparle10:24
ubottuapparle: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:24
ActionParsnip1apparle: or man fstab10:25
makdaknifeady: no... this will only add a mount point... you will need to know what filesystem is being used by your second disk10:25
szrhawaiiwireless problem10:25
ActionParsnip1szrhawaii: can you be more specific10:25
adyWhere could I mount my second disk ? where I want ?10:25
adyis there a default destination ?10:26
szrhawaiiif i rebooted a system and the wireless toggle al of a sudden wont turn the wireless on anymore and it was working right before tha what woul i need to do10:26
makdaknifeady: for your reference, working in this tool will add an entry to the fstab (/etc/fstab) - you may want to look at the links that ubottu has just given to apparle10:26
makdaknifeady: sure... you can mount wherever you like10:26
adyok10:26
makdaknifeady: if its only you that is going to use the disk... create a directory in your home folder and mount to that10:26
makdaknifeady: otherwise, consider creating a directory in / or in /mnt10:27
ActionParsnip1!mount | ady10:28
ubottuady: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter10:28
ActionParsnip1szrhawaii: check dmesg to see whats happening with the driver10:28
adyok, mmm I've tried to mount it on / but kubuntu inform me that there is already a disk on this destination, can I continue or this will be a problem after ?10:29
szrhawaiihow do i get there10:29
makdaknifeady: not on /10:29
adyok10:29
makdaknifeady: / will be used by your currently running linux10:29
makdaknifeady: generally you will mount on an empty directory10:30
szrhawaiiActionParsnip1>how do i get there is that through command rompt10:31
szrhawaiiprompt10:31
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makdaknifeady: so convention has it that you create a new directory in /mnt and mount there... but you can mount onto any empty directory on your filesystem10:31
ActionParsnip1szrhawaii: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:31
makdaknifeady: you can even mount on a directory that isn't empty... but then the things in that directory would not be available to you while something else was mounted on that directory10:32
ActionParsnip1makdaknife: ooh didnt know that (mental note)10:32
ActionParsnip1ady: and dont mount anywhere in /proc ;)10:32
makdaknifeActionParsnip1: :-)10:32
adyok, I will not ;)10:33
szrhawaiiok what if it says error dbus network driver not detected10:33
adyhum Im trying to mount it but it doesnt work... what should I select on Type field ?10:33
apparleHow to make the system use OSS drivers10:34
makdaknifeady: type will be the filesystem type... so it depends on how you have formatted the drive10:34
ActionParsnip1!sound | apparle10:34
ubottuapparle: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:34
makdaknifeady: if it was formatted under linux... this might be ext3 or ext2 or reiserfs (or a variety of other options)10:34
adythis is my old windows files from windows XP10:35
makdaknifeady: ext3 is the most commonly used linux fs10:35
makdaknifeady: ah... okay... was it formatted using ntfs?10:35
adyI think yes10:35
lodiinteresting problem on eee pc10:35
lodikubuntu 7.1010:35
lodiyesterday all went smoothly10:36
makdaknifeady: then set it to ntfs10:36
lodithis morning booting went smoothley10:36
lodibut as I tried to login10:36
lodilogin to kde10:37
adywhen I click to OK, nothing happens10:37
lodithe xserver restarted itself10:37
lodiI then installed xfce10:37
makdaknifeady: is the disk enabled?10:37
lodiabd when I try to login same happens10:38
ActionParsnip1lodi: check logs in root console / livecd10:38
adyno, there's still nothing in this field. Neither enable nor disable10:38
makdaknifeady: okay let's step through this...10:39
makdaknifeady: in Disk and Filesystems, you can see the second disk right?10:40
makdaknifeady: you click on it and then click new...10:40
adyYes, with one partition : sdb110:40
makdaknifeokay so you click on the partition and click modify10:41
adywait10:41
ady think there is something wrong here10:41
makdaknifeady: okay... what's the problem?10:42
adyActually, I can't click on the modify button, this with the others (first HDD and CD readers)10:42
adyI have to open the right click menu to modify it10:43
makdaknifeady: hmmm okay... may be a bug... unfortunately I can't test here as I don't have a spare disk handy10:43
adyOkay10:44
makdaknifeady: so in modify... you have a bunch of options10:44
adyyes10:44
lodilivecd?10:44
makdaknifeady: make sure type is set to under Type... NTFS - NT Filesystem10:44
adythats ok10:44
apparleIs there any way I can use Kwin with compositing disabled in xorg.conf10:44
lodiIt is installed on the hard disk10:45
makdaknifein mount point, browse to an empty directory on your filesystem... e.g. /mnt/disk2 or /home/ady/myotherdisk10:45
lodibut will try10:45
adydone10:45
makdaknifeady: under By Device... By ID etc... you might want to try By Device... and make sure it says /dev/sdb110:46
adyyes ok10:46
makdaknifeady: okay... you can change the other options... like Enable at Startup etc...10:47
chris_rc1hi10:47
lodiActionParsnip1 what logs should I check10:47
makdaknifeady: you can leave it as only Root to enable or disable...10:47
makdaknifeady: then click OK10:47
ActionParsnip1lodi: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/10:47
adynothing happens10:48
chris_rc1i have setup kontact to work with google calendar. however, ever since kde 4.1 i cannot get the resource view on the left though it is checked in the side panel list. any clues why?10:48
adyI think I have to fill the Label field10:48
makdaknifeady: not if your device is by name10:48
makdaknifeady: sorry earlier I wasn't clear... you can choose Device... by name, by UUID or by Label10:49
makdaknifechoose Device by name, and set this to /dev/sdb110:49
courtjestergNo serrious do i need this application in system its a package manager called synaptic package manager or is it just like adept and i installed not knowing?10:49
makdaknifeady: does that make sense?10:50
adyYes, but there is two ticks10:50
adyon by name, and by label10:50
courtjestergticks?10:50
makdaknifeady: that's pretty strange... they shouldn't be ticks... radio button options... and if you choose by name, it should disable by label10:51
courtjestergis anybody actually reading this or am i on like some kinda mutte or something?10:51
makdaknifeady: if there are ticks, try and uncheck by label... this is sounding very strange10:51
makdaknifecourtjesterg: I see you10:52
lodiActionParsnip1 kdm.log gives one error intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 010:52
lodiit is repeated 3 times10:52
makdaknifecourtjesterg: what package? synaptic is just another package manager gui... adept is fine10:52
dwidmannI wonder if I do "kill -s stop `pidof wget` today, and then do kill -s cont `pidof wget` tomorrow, if it will resume10:52
courtjestergso i can remove it10:53
adyIm sorry, my english vocabulary isn't very good, maybe "tick" is not the good word, but, there is two points : one before the "by name" and one before the "by label"10:53
makdaknifecourtjesterg: yeah no problem10:53
courtjestergi mean it shows lots of stuff adept don't it looks like10:53
makdaknifeady: that's really strange...what happens if you try to choose by UUID?10:53
adytwo points : by UUID and by label10:54
makdaknifecourtjesterg: I used to prefer it to adept... but really there is not that much difference10:54
courtjestergi am messing with it noticed it has the amarok update in it while adept don't?!!10:54
makdaknifeady: try select just label?10:54
adybut if I click two times on "by label", there's only by label10:54
chris_rc1the sidebar settings in kontact have no effect at all. does anybody know why that could be?10:55
adyYes I can do that10:55
courtjestergi even found that mscompress while i couldn't in adept10:55
adyWhat should I enter in by label field ?10:55
makdaknifeady: hmmm sounds very odd... give me a second10:55
courtjestergits alredy installed10:55
ActionParsnip1lodi: then go forth and resarch wat that means10:56
lodilol10:56
lodiok10:56
lodicould be caused by the fact that freespace is running out?10:56
lodior possibly a hardware failure?10:56
makdaknifeady: okay this is a bug in kde for ntfs filesystems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/15040010:57
makdaknifeady:  give me a minute... I'll see if you can get around it10:57
ActionParsnip1lodi: possibly10:57
makdaknifecourtjesterg: yeah... the gui package managers are odd that way... I just like good old apt-get or aptitude off the command line10:57
ActionParsnip1lodi: maybe its space, you could remove old install debs with sudo apt-get clean10:58
adyok, I closed all windows and I retried it10:58
adyNow, there's only one point10:58
loditx10:58
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makdaknifeady: is the point in By Label or By Name?11:00
adyby name11:00
makdaknifeady: excellent... make sure that is /dev/sdb111:00
makdaknifethen try click ok11:00
Trustn01i need help with setting up phpmyadmin and dialupadmin can some one help me please11:01
makdaknifeady: was just trying to find an easy way to find out your disk label... I don't know offhand11:01
makdaknifeady: so did that work?11:01
adyNo11:01
adyactually11:02
adyI believe that the problem is before11:02
adymmm11:02
Spankercan somebody please help me with xorg kubuntu?11:03
adyYou know in the windows that you have after clicking Disk and Filesystems11:03
courtjestergok what abou this app system hardware drivers its called looks useless and does nothing everytime i open it up11:03
adyYou have all HDD, cd reader... etc...11:03
chris_rc1could anybody pls tell me whether the sidebars in kontact work for them so i can exclude a bug?11:03
ActionParsnip1Spanker: wassup11:03
makdaknifeady: yes11:04
adyand each row, exept system row, have a status (which is enable or disable).11:04
makdaknifeady: yes11:04
adybut my second hdd row hasn't status11:04
Spankeri've just installed kubuntu 8.10 on a hp compaq 6715s11:04
adynothing can tell me if it is enable or not11:04
adyI believe that is the problem ^^11:05
Spankerthen i tried to install fglrx11:05
courtjestergspanker welcome to a different world11:05
Spanker:)11:05
makdaknifeady: hmmm I'm not sure what else to do... the alternative is to dive under the hood11:05
makdaknifeady: close all of these windows and open up konsole11:05
adyI don't know how to use konsole ;)11:06
makdaknifeady: no problem... its time to learn something... this is where linux really really shines11:07
adyDo you know how to proceed ?11:07
makdaknifeady: okay in konsole... type: sudo -s11:07
courtjestergnevermind it found something my graphics card it wasnts me to activate but could of swear i did with envy11:07
makdaknifeady: enter your password11:07
adyok11:08
courtjestergrestarting11:08
courtjestergpray11:08
makdaknifeady: you are now root... this is the most powerful user you can be... making mistakes here can be dangerous11:08
makdaknifeady: okay... fortunately we are not going to do anything too serious11:08
adyOk, this this command, Im the super administrator ?11:08
makdaknifeady: yes11:08
adywith* this command11:09
adyok11:09
makdaknifeady: give me a second while I find an easier editor to work with than explaining vi to you on irc11:09
makdaknifeady: okay we will use nano11:10
makdaknifeady: so type: nano /etc/fstab11:10
adyok11:10
makdaknifeady:  this should open the fstab... which defines how partitions are mounted in your fs11:10
ActionParsnip1makdaknife: you'll need sudo for that11:10
makdaknifeady: the kde tool that we were looking at works with this file11:11
makdaknifeActionParsnip1: follow the conversation... he's already sudo11:11
adyok, but ther isn't my second HDD11:11
makdaknifeady: now in this file... you will see that there are lines starting with # these are comments11:11
adyyes11:12
adyinformations lines11:12
makdaknifeady: some start with UUID= these are disks detected by udev (I think... someone can correct me if I'm wrong)11:12
makdaknifeady: at the bottom of the file... add a line like this: /dev/sdb /windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 011:13
ActionParsnip1makdaknife: I assume nothing, just making sure :)11:13
makdaknifeady: /windows would be the mount point... e.g. wherever you want to mount your disk11:13
makdaknifeady: probably this might be replaced with something like /home/ady/myotherdisk or /mnt/windowsdisk11:14
makdaknifeady: of course, this directory must already exist11:14
makdaknifeady: I lifted that line from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab11:14
adyok11:15
makdaknifeady: I don't use any windows disks, so I'm just hoping that the ntfs-3g driver is still the one in use... we will find out soon enough11:15
makdaknifeady: one point is that the bit that says locale=en_US.UTF-8 is just a locale... technically, it might be different for where you are... but we can find that out later too if we need to11:16
adyhope it'll work ;)11:17
makdaknifeady: okay... next thing... you need to write out... so I think that's Ctrl-o and then Ctrl-x to exit11:17
makdaknifeady: that should put you back on the command line11:18
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makdaknifeady: now, time to test that fstab entry...11:18
DreamC4steranyone can give me the command of installing firefox in kubuntu ?11:18
makdaknifeady: type: mount /mnt/mydisk (or whatever mount point you defined in the fstab)11:19
DreamC4ster!firefox11:19
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:19
makdaknifeDreamC4ster: either use adept to install it or use `aptitude install firefox` on the command line11:20
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makdaknifeady: you still with me?11:20
adyyes11:20
adyI'm tryin to save11:20
Trustn01what is the diff between phpmyadmin and mysql11:21
makdaknifeady: ah... okay... tell me if I'm moving too swiftly11:21
adyOk, i'm right ^^11:21
makdaknifeady: great....11:21
adyI'm tryin fstab11:21
adyok11:22
makdaknifeady: any luck there?11:22
makdaknifeady: no complaints?11:23
adyjust a little mistake11:23
makdaknifeady: if you type mount... you will see if it is mounted11:23
makdaknifeady: so just: mount <enter>11:23
ady /dev/sdb /windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0 in this line, I have to write /dev/sdb011:23
adyI believe11:24
adysdb111:24
makdaknifeady: whoops... my bad... yes... or I think earlier you said it was sdb111:24
makdaknifeady: sorry... so open it up again and edit it... save and then try mount again11:24
* makdaknife holds thumbs that ady's disk mounts....11:25
* makdaknife needs to get back to work soon11:26
adyit say to me :11:26
adyFailed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument11:26
adyThe device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.11:26
adyMaybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a11:26
adypartition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?11:26
makdaknifeady: :-( hmmm it could be that it isn't formatted in ntfs11:26
makdaknifeady: in which case you could edit the fstab entry and replace ntfs with vfat... so that the line looks a bit like this11:27
makdaknifeady: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mydisk vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 011:28
makdaknifeady: sorry that's lifted from the same site... I'm not sure if there are better mount options offhand... but we're just trying to determine if we can mount this disk11:29
zer0ohi guys im about to install the ibex kubuntu version, what about the libraries that i installed in the previous version? since im formatting which ones are the ones to re-install for sure?11:30
makdaknifeady: you with me?11:31
adyActually, there is another issue11:31
adymount: selon mtab /dev/sdb1 est monté sur /media/disk11:32
adyaccording to mtab /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/disk11:32
courtjestergok so after i did that hardware driver of which the nvida 96 drivers is still in there and i did the restart i decided to try and install the 173 passed and the 177 it passed also the 96 is still int he hardwaredriver but not active now with server x it shows driver 96 any input on anything or am i good wow now when i hole a window it tuns itrasparent11:33
makdaknifeady: ah... okay... that's going to cause some problems... make sure that you have unmounted it...11:33
makdaknifeady: you can try umount /media/disk11:33
makdaknifeady: if that fails... it is probably because something in KDE has a file on that disk open... or konqueror may be browsing the disk11:34
adyok11:34
adyumount worked11:34
makdaknifeady: okay... now try mount it11:34
adybut bad fs type11:34
makdaknifeady: :-(11:34
adyshould i try with ntfc ?11:35
adyntfs*11:35
makdaknifeady: I just realised that we missed out on an opportunity to see what it had originally been mounted with...11:35
makdaknifeady: you could try11:35
makdaknifeady: if that doesn't work... open konqueror and go to storage media... remount the disk... then in konsole... type mount <enter>11:36
makdaknifeady: that should give us the details that we need to mount this disk properly11:36
BluAngelsalve a tutti11:37
BluAngelvolevo chiedere se qualcuno sa come posso inserire caratteri ascii come in windows11:37
bazhang!it11:38
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)11:38
adyNTFS signature is missing...11:38
makdaknifeady: you are doing well btw... its great to help someone who is willing to work on the command line and who is willing to experiment a bit11:38
BluAngelthanks11:38
makdaknifeady: okay... try what I said earlier... use konqueror to remount your disk...11:39
makdaknifeand then lets get the mount information in konsole11:39
makdaknifeady: we probably should have started with this... I just didn't realise that you had already mounted the disk ;-)11:40
adyIt doesn't want to be remounted11:40
makdaknifehmmm... okay... in konsole... just type mount... and let's make sure that its not already in use11:41
makdaknifeady: is /dev/sdb1 listed at all... or anything else that looks like it might be that disk?11:43
Trustn01Who can help a newbie with phpmyadmin11:46
flynn_hallo.12:02
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gekkooanybody using mercurial here?12:13
Brett_ikonia: i figured the problem... well partially, but good enough... for some reason whenever i started gdm, it took about 30 seconds for ANYTHING to happen (even though "startx" brings up kde with seconds). I found a setting "GdmXserverTimeout" in gdm.conf, increased it to 45 seconds, and whammo it works12:13
sorush20the kipi image extensions are not working with gwenview, I'm running gwenview  Version 2.1.3 Using KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3)12:16
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p_mashoanyone here who can help we upgrade to 4.1.3? I've followed the instructions from here (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Available-Now-KDE-4-1-3-97342.shtml) ie unsupported UPdated and "intrepid main" as a new repos.12:30
p_mashoHowever I still dont get to see a 4.1.3 option. ;-(12:30
jussi01p_masho: did you have updates?12:31
p_mashono..12:31
jussi01p_masho: ok, lets walk through this.12:32
p_mashois this correct .. .http://rafb.net/p/n24Vlq55.html12:33
* p_masho brb.. someone at door 12:33
jussi01p_masho: you are on hardy, dont hink its available on there yet...12:33
jussi01p_masho: hrm, actually it seems it is12:34
jussi01p_masho: you need to remove the last line,12:36
jussi01p_masho: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:36
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo12:37
jussi01hi ActionParsnip112:38
ActionParsnip1quiet today huh12:40
jussi01yep12:40
* ActionParsnip1 listens to the wind blow12:42
jarekhello12:43
p_mashojussi01: remove the intrepid line ?12:43
jussi01p_masho: yes12:44
jareki have problem with kubuntu 8.0412:44
jarekwith ntfs12:44
jussi01!ask12:44
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:44
ActionParsnip1jarek: whats the problem12:44
* ActionParsnip1 bets he cant write as a user12:44
windfieldhello everyone i have problem installing kubuntu 8.0412:44
ActionParsnip1windfield: ask away12:44
jareki use ntfs-config to automount ntfs12:45
windfielddo you know how to fix grub error 25?12:45
p_mashoOk dont that.. but it only gives me option to update kb3 ! http://rafb.net/p/VqS5xJ20.html12:45
jarekntfs-config add line to fstab12:45
ActionParsnip1windfield: what does it mean?12:45
jarekbut when i try to get partition ntfs i have u dont have permision12:45
ActionParsnip1jarek: add some mount options12:45
jarekwindfield: no12:45
windfieldafter i installed kubuntu, when comp boots error message will appear12:46
ActionParsnip1jarek: i dont know about ntfs-config12:46
ActionParsnip1windfield: what does error 25 mean?12:46
Dr_willisI did not think ngts-config ADDED lines to fstab.. i thought ive only seen it alter - existing/entries12:46
windfieldits a grub error i think12:46
windfieldit can't dual boot xp & kubuntu12:47
ActionParsnip1windfield: yep, but what does it mean12:47
jarekActionParsnip1: the problem occured when i dl linux-restricted modules for kernel 2.6.24-2112:47
p_mashojussi01: any ideas ?12:47
ActionParsnip1jarek: can we see your /etc/fstab please12:47
Dr_willisexample fstab entry for ntfs-3g ===>    UUID=27FDD6F1659D94FB /media/vista ntfs-3g defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 112:47
jarekActionParsnip1: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g defaults,locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 0 012:47
jussi01p_masho: please open konqueror, and go to help, about and check the version12:48
jarekits add by ntfs-config12:48
p_masho4.1.212:48
windfieldGrub error 25 : Disk read error12:49
windfieldThis error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to12:49
windfieldprobe or read data from a particular disk.12:49
jussi01p_masho: ok, im not certain of whats wrong, although as you have used automatix it could be anything...12:49
ActionParsnip1jarek: try: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 012:49
ActionParsnip1jarek: add your locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 to the end of that but before 0 012:50
p_mashojussi01: automatix?12:51
ActionParsnip1jarek: so that would be: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0, locale=pl_PL.UTF-812:51
ActionParsnip1piss12:51
jarekActionParsnip1: i will try ty12:51
ActionParsnip1jarek: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000,locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 0 012:51
ActionParsnip1yay12:51
jussi01p_masho: you showed me a your sources list, which had been modified by a program called automatix...12:51
p_mashonuked that a long time ago (think I used to try and get nvidia to work)12:52
jussi01!automatix | p_masho12:52
ubottup_masho: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe »12:52
jussi01anyway, not sure whats going on, sorrty12:53
jarekActionParsnip1: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE12:54
jareklibrary. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated12:54
jarekFUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at12:54
ActionParsnip1jarek: how di dyou get that?12:55
* ActionParsnip1 hates ntfs12:55
jarekActionParsnip1: when i add this line from u12:56
jarekActionParsnip1: i hate it too12:56
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: can you suggest dude12:57
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000,locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 0 012:57
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: gives:12:58
ActionParsnip1hmm12:58
Dr_willisI dont think one needs all those options..12:58
Dr_willisand i do think the umask is wrong12:58
ActionParsnip1jarek: once you have edited the fstab run: sudo mount -a12:58
Dr_willisthe entry i pasted was rather simple. :)12:58
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: just gives full access to all users12:59
ActionParsnip1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19861412:59
ActionParsnip1thats were I got it12:59
jarekActionParsnip1: same error12:59
ActionParsnip1jarek: id let Dr_willis guide you12:59
jarekActionParsnip1: ok thx for help13:00
Dr_willisthe nfts-3g web page is worth reading. It has examples of such entries I recall.. also most of the info at the ntfs driver for linux page has good info as well.13:02
jarekDr_willis: yesterday read/write to ntfs works fine13:02
Dr_willisjarek,  ntfs, or ntfs-3g ?13:02
jarekDr_willis: ntfs-3g and ntfs-config13:03
jarekDr_willis: today i dl uppdate for kernel13:03
jarekDr_willis: restricted modules or sth like that13:03
jarekDr_willis: i have kernel 2.6.24-2113:03
Dr_willistry mounting the location manuall. and see if any error messages show up13:04
Dr_williswhat is it 'not' doing? not mounting at all? mounting read only?13:04
jarekread only have same error13:04
jarekno access13:04
Dr_williswhat error is it saying? just the file manager saying it cant write to it?13:05
jareki run ntfs-config13:05
jarekits add me line to etc/fstab13:05
jarekwhen i go to disk error occured no acces13:05
jareki add this and same error ntfs-3g force 0 013:06
Dr_willisdont use force13:06
aenima1891ciao a tutti13:06
Dr_willisuse as simple a fstab antry as you can.. and see if you can get it working at all.. then start tweaking the options13:07
aenima1891after many years of gnome, now 'm trying kubuntu with kde413:07
Dr_willisie: --->   /dev/sda1  /media/vista ntfs-3g defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 113:07
aenima1891I like it13:07
aenima1891but i've a problem13:07
Dr_willisI forget where that gid came from.. :)13:08
aenima1891i can't configure wireless13:08
aenima1891does anybody know a good wireless manager for kde4?13:08
Dr_willisalso as a test i just tried a --->    sudo ntfs-3g  /dev/sdb1 sdb1   and it mounted sdb1 as r/w for me.13:08
jareksame error13:09
Dr_willisaenima1891,  you got the wireless card working right first? proper drivers installed?13:09
Dr_willisjarek,  you are unmounting this thing befor you try the other mount commands?13:09
aenima1891i'll print my iwconfig output13:09
aenima1891wait a second13:09
Dr_willisits possible you got it mounted several times13:09
Dr_willis!pastebin | aenima189113:09
ubottuaenima1891: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:09
jarekDr_willis:  it's don't mount13:10
Dr_willis jarek  try the simplest way -->    sudo ntfs-3g  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1   (change sdb1 to be what youir filesstem is)13:10
aenima1891ok13:10
aenima1891look http://paste.ubuntu.com/70468/plain/13:10
aenima1891i think that my drivers are ok13:11
Dr_willisaenima1891,  yep.. looks good.. but i dont do much wireless.. I had to install the fwcutter for mine bedor they worked.13:11
aenima1891but i'd like to use a good wireless manager13:11
jarekDr_willis: Dr_willis $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)13:11
jarekFailed to mount '/dev/sda6': Operation not supported13:11
jarekMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:13:11
Dr_willisjarek,  the ntfs filesystem was not flagged as properlly unmounted from windows when windows exited.. thus its being 'safe' and not letting you mount it.. the BEST cource of action wouldbe to boot to windows.. let windows rescan/check the drive.. and then reboot back to linux  and try to access it then.13:13
Dr_willisassuming you havent confused things too much by your tweaking. :)13:13
jarekDr_willis: ok i will try thx for help13:13
ActionParsnip1aenima1891: sudo iwlist scan13:13
ActionParsnip1aenima1891: do APs show up?13:14
aenima1891http://paste.ubuntu.com/70472/plain/13:16
aenima1891for you <ActionParsnip1>13:16
RenzoreKCan someone help me with serious performance issues with Ibex? KDE 4.1 is extremely slow in moving widgets around and even loading the screen saver. I am using the 3D binary driver from nVidia on an 8600GT board/chipset. Even compiz is a bit sluggish I have no clue where to start, searches on google show others have the same problem but I am unable to find a solution with them. Anyone know where to turn to? (Besides Windows, ack!)13:16
Dr_williskde4 is not as optmized as it could be.. :( sadly13:17
ActionParsnip1aenima1891: sudo ifup wlan013:17
RurouniJones!kde4 | RenzoreK13:17
ubottuRenzoreK: KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde413:17
RurouniJonesYou might get a better answer in there13:17
RenzoreKThank you RurouniJones I will try there also13:18
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: do games run ok in linux?13:18
* Dr_willis has been playing FreeCol all week. :)13:18
aenima1891"Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0". how is it possible?13:18
RenzoreKActionParsnip1: I usually don't run games, but when I was using Hardy, then ran fine. (actually better than compiz and all other effects) :(13:18
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: sudo apt-get install fretsonfire13:19
RenzoreKRurouniJones: The server redirects me back to this channel when I join #kubuntu-kde4 :\13:19
RurouniJonesReally?13:19
ActionParsnip1aenima1891: what wifi card do you have according to lspci13:19
RurouniJonesAh, I suppose because ibex is kde413:19
RenzoreKRurouniJones: : [08:18] [470] #kubuntu-kde4 #kubuntu Forwarding to another channel13:19
RurouniJonesOh well13:20
emmaAnyone here have any thoughts about swiftfox ?13:20
emmahttp://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm13:20
emmadoes that look like something safe or a good idea?13:20
ActionParsnip1emma: yeah its decent, i prefer opera13:20
emmait might be a way to get firefox without using the ubuntu package that installs all the GNOME libs13:21
RenzoreKActionParsnip1: This is that GH clone, do I need this to test my card to see if its nvidia or kde4??13:21
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: its jus a full 3d game to test your card13:21
ActionParsnip1youo can also install any other 3d game13:21
ActionParsnip1just to tes13:21
ActionParsnip1t13:21
aenima1891http://paste.ubuntu.com/70477/plain/ this is lpci output13:21
RenzoreKActionParsnip1: Ok its installing at the moment, Ill test the card. I used to run Unreal 2004 and it worked great13:21
ActionParsnip1aenima1891: those are buggy in hardy, the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG13:22
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: runs natively too with loki installer13:22
aenima1891i'm not using hardy, but kubuntu intrepid13:23
RenzoreKIf this is a KDE4 issue I might move to Gnome13:23
RenzoreKThough personally Ive always liked KDE13:23
Farghhey, whats the app name in KDE4 to manage the filesystem ?13:23
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: tr fluxbox with kde13:23
RenzoreKbut the desktop is simply unusable for even web browsing13:23
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: it might just be kwin13:23
aenima1891<ActionParsnip1>: i didn't have this problem with gnome13:24
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: I love kde, hate kwin13:24
ActionParsnip1aenima1891: was it intrepid?13:24
Farghanyone ?13:24
ActionParsnip1Fargh: sup?13:24
Farghhi13:24
Farghwhats the app name in KDE4 to manage the filesystem ?13:24
ActionParsnip1!ask | Fargh13:25
ubottuFargh: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:25
ActionParsnip1Fargh: dolphin13:25
aenima1891kubunyu intrepid ibex13:25
RenzoreKActionParsnip1: Im using Compiz as the compositing wm if that makes any diff\13:25
ActionParsnip1Fargh: but you can install konqueror if you prefer13:25
Farghthats a filemanager, doesnt allow you tonfigure USB drives13:25
emmais kubuntu capable of using wifi if it is WPA2 encrypted?13:25
ActionParsnip1RenzoreK: hmm, ten no kwin for you13:25
ActionParsnip1Fargh: /etc/fstab can automount stuff for you13:26
ActionParsnip1Fargh: depends how you mean by "configure usb devices"13:26
Farghhow do i get the correct /dev/sdc0 to use in fstab ?13:26
ActionParsnip1Fargh: sudo fdisk -l13:27
Farghk, thx.13:27
ActionParsnip1np13:27
RenzoreKNeed to log out everyone, KDE4 now borked itself and displays only on 1/4 of my monitor the rest is black13:28
* RenzoreK sighs13:28
Dr_willisHmm fdisk -l dosent show optical drives I thought,.13:28
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: i guessed taht was an example13:29
Dr_willis:)13:29
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: plus he was on about usb stuffs13:29
Cody#ubuntu-cn13:29
GonenHey people.13:30
GonenI am new to linux ,13:30
GonenI got kubuntu version 8.04 and I am using kde 3.513:30
Gonenyesterday I changed the resolution to 1024x786.13:30
Goneneverything was OK , and than I rebooted my computer,13:30
Gonenthan , after the I logged on , all the task bars of all the windows disappeared.13:30
Gonenall the windows dont have taskbars, and its really annoying...13:30
Gonenand the font in pidgin here is suddenly very small.13:30
Gonenhere are some pictures to show you the problem.13:30
Gonenhttp://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3285/35628024sh4.jpg13:30
Gonenhttp://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1291/34931524ff2.jpg13:30
Gonenhttp://img371.imageshack.us/img371/936/96312283ss6.jpg13:31
GonenAnyone know what to do?13:31
GonenBig thanks for the helpers.13:31
GonenAnyone13:33
gblandahello13:34
Dr_willis'task bars of all the windows' ---> you mean the TITLE bars at the top?13:34
ActionParsnip1Gonen: you on an nvidia card per chance?13:34
Gonenyes13:34
ActionParsnip1they are called window decorators13:34
Gonensorry13:34
GonenI meant13:34
Gonentitle13:34
Gonenbars13:34
ActionParsnip1Gonen: you need a line in xorg.conf. I'll just get it you13:35
Dr_willisYou are not trying to use 'compiz' are you?13:35
Gonenwhat is compiz?13:35
Dr_willis!compiz13:35
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion13:35
Gonenand what do I need to do?13:35
Dr_willisguess you are not. :) heh13:35
ActionParsnip1Gonen: http://pastebin.com/f37bf58813:35
ActionParsnip1Gonen: copy line 82 to your screen section in xorg.conf you will need ksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit it13:36
GonenOkay , I will try13:37
Gonenthank you13:37
ActionParsnip1oops not ksudo13:37
s0undt3chppl, why can't I download/install new Icon packs?13:37
ActionParsnip1im all over today13:37
ActionParsnip1kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf13:37
s0undt3chintrepid, kde 4.1.313:37
Dr_willismany iconpacks may be for the older kde313:37
* ActionParsnip1 gets a -1 point13:38
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GibonDr_willis: i have run checkdisk from windows and i have many errors in partition13:38
s0undt3chDr_willis: sure, ain't there a way to filter out <4.1 packs?13:38
Dr_williss0undt3ch,  i imagine it depends on what/where you are looking...13:39
Dr_willisGibon,  thats not a good sign.13:39
s0undt3chDr_willis: I'm using kde to do that13:39
Dr_willishttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Crystal+Diamond+Icons?content=9216313:39
Dr_willisusing kde HOW to do that...13:39
GibonDr_willis: i know13:39
s0undt3chDr_willis: and actually there's a KDE4 icon pack which aparently dowloads but never gets added to the available list13:39
Dr_williss0undt3ch,  sounds like a bug to me then.13:40
* Dr_willis finds lots of bugs/issues with kde4 :(13:40
s0undt3chDr_willis: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Get New Themes13:40
Dr_willisNot in KDE4 right now.. so i cant check. sorry s0undt3ch  if those are comming from the kde-look.org web site.. that place is known to have miss-done packages13:41
s0undt3chDr_willis: this is a fress install of intrepid, previously I had upgraded from hardy and it worked(well this part at least)13:41
GibonDr_willis: chdsk deleted registration from index $0 from file 2513:41
Dr_Willis64In KDE 4.1 now. :) where was that theme download thing.13:46
* ActionParsnip1 is wonderig if Gonen will return....13:50
Dr_Willis64well i cant getg any of the icon themes to download at all.. the color schemes did work13:51
Dr_Willis64looks like kde4 is crashing on me also...13:52
Dr_Willis64Noticeing some really annoying quirks on my Ubuntu+Kubuntu system.. If i set the default file manager to Konqueror in KDE4 it also sets it  to Konqueror under Gnome.. if i change gnomes default to Nautilus, or rox-filer  .. it also sets it in KDE13:56
Dr_Willis64So i end up either running Konqueror/Dolphin in gnome.. or Nautilus in KDE.13:56
Dr_Willis64also noticed all the gnome-auto starting apps are also auto-starting i KDE4.. still not sure how its doing that either.13:57
GibonDr_willis:its works13:58
Dr_Willis64Great... err.. what works?13:59
Dr_Willis64:P13:59
GibonDr_Willis thx for help13:59
Gibonntfs13:59
Dr_Willis64wee14:00
GibonDr_willis: thx for help14:00
Dr_Willis64No problem...14:00
* Dr_Willis64 sends Gibon the bill.14:01
Dr_Willis64:P14:01
ActionParsnip1winner14:01
GibonDr_willis: :D14:01
Dr_Willis64and the answer was 'reboot to windows, scan the drives, reboot back to linux' ?14:01
Gibonyes14:01
mdfhello14:01
Giboni have errors on ntfs partition14:01
mdfanyone else experiencing garbled fonts in non-kde4 apps since 8.10?14:02
Dr_Willis64Not noticed that issue mdf  sorry.14:02
mdfok, thanks anyway14:03
brooxhola munso14:05
brooxmundo14:05
Pici!es14:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:05
brooxok14:06
brooxi need help on kubuntu compiz fusion14:06
brooxhellp14:06
brooxhello14:06
brooxany one there?14:06
brooxany one there?14:07
brooxim new in linux14:07
christMorning14:07
christi have a doubt, can somebody help me?14:08
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brooxhey14:08
brooxany one there?14:08
geniibroox: You can find help in channel of #compiz-fusion14:08
bazhangbroox, compiz help in #compiz-fusion14:08
bazhangoops14:08
geniibazhang: :)14:09
brooxok ok14:09
brooxbut14:09
bazhangbroox, easy on the enter key14:09
brooxi've gotten yet14:09
christhere, i have a doubt, i'm using HH and i want to upgrade it to II from an alternate CD14:09
bazhangchrist, you wish to upgrade?14:09
brooxbot i think that no release to kubuntu14:09
christyes bazhang14:10
brooxon compiz14:10
brooxthe compiz packet make errors in my OS14:10
bazhangbroox, please rephrase and keep it on one line14:10
brooxok14:11
bazhangchrist, so what is the problem14:11
brooxlook14:11
brooxi had installed the compiz fusion14:11
christbazhang: is that i wish to upgrade to 8.10 but from an alternate CD14:11
brooxin my kubuntu 8 hardy14:11
bazhangchrist, you need to download the cd you know14:11
christi already have the ISO bazhang14:12
brooxwhat CD?14:12
bazhangchrist, then burn the iso to cd and upgrade14:12
christbut, how can i do it?14:12
brooxbut in the webpage of the compiz14:12
christi mean, after burn it14:12
brooxsays thats not possible14:12
bazhangchrist, boot from the cd14:13
brooxthe installation on kubuntu14:13
bazhangbroox, what are you talking about?14:13
Dr_willisI thought one ran the upgrade tool and it saw the cd in the drive...14:13
bazhangchrist, listen to Dr_willis here :)14:13
christDr_willis: is that possible without burn the CD?14:13
brooxim talkin about compiz14:13
bazhangbroox, please state your problem on ONE line.14:14
brooxi cannot install in kubuntu, my versionis 8.04.114:14
Dr_willischrist,  no idea.. try mounting the iso file and see14:14
Dr_willis!upgrade14:14
ActionParsnip1broox: what does it say when you try?14:14
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:14
brooxok14:14
bazhangbroox, sure you can14:14
bazhangjust open up adept and install it broox14:14
christDr_willis:  but if i do that command, is not going to use the internet?14:14
mdfhttp://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=garbledfontsamarokkv4.png   <- this is how my non-kde4 apps show fonts. also, it seems to only happen on nvidia drivers and not nv. any ideas on how to fix this? i still need the nvidia drivers...14:15
brooxthe installation make many errors14:15
Dr_Willis64hmmm14:15
Dr_willischrist,  no idea.. i rarely bother with upgrades14:15
ActionParsnip1broox: what does it say?14:15
christok, let me try14:15
Dr_willischrist,  theres supposed tobe a way it can get the updates from the cd.. if its seen14:15
Dr_willisthis i hear ONLY works with the alternative installer cd14:15
brooxit says14:15
brooxnothing14:16
christDr_willis: i already have the alternate CD14:16
ActionParsnip1broox: run compiz --replace from terminal14:16
Dr_willischrist,  then burn it, or mount it.. and check that !upgrade url14:16
brooxneither14:16
brooxi had tryed14:16
brooxdo that... but I received a message from command lie14:17
brooxne14:17
brooxline14:17
brooxit says that not repository to "kubuntu" that is not compatible with KDE14:18
jb-firefoxxbroox whats your problem?14:18
Next1I am running Kubuntu 8.10 on a Fujitsu laptop.  The lower half of the screen blinks about every 8 seconds.  How can I fix this?14:18
brooxim trying install the compiz14:18
Next1Also I am using gdm.14:19
brooxto my version a kubuntu the compiz fusion makes many errors14:19
Dr_willisIm not sure that fighting with Compiz and KDE4 is a good thing :)14:19
Dr_willisor was this kde3 you are using?14:19
Next1actually it does it from the live cd too14:19
brooxim using KDE3.514:19
brooxmust I upgrade to KDE4?14:20
brooxhey doctor willis?14:20
Dr_williscompiz shoul work with kde3.5 but kde3.5 is on its way out..14:21
Dr_willisbut a lot of people hate kde4.. but kde4 has its own alternative to Compiz....14:22
Dr_willisso do what you want. :)14:22
christDr_willis: if i upgrade to Intrepid am i going to lose KDE 3 ???14:24
Dr_willischrist,  Yes.14:24
christwhat if i dont like kde4? what to do?14:24
Dr_willisThen dont upgrade.....14:25
whitedaDr_willis, Do kde 4 apps play well with Gnome?  (ubuntu 8.10)14:25
jb-firefoxxno14:25
jb-firefoxxi think u can use kde 414:25
Dr_williskde and gnome apps should play nicely with each other..14:26
Dr_willisive had a few odd quirks onmy gnome+kde system here.14:26
ActionParsnip1whiteda: you will need gnome libs for gnome apps to run14:26
robin0800christ: Try a live cd first14:26
christrobin0800: i've already installed II in VirtualBox14:26
christand looks cool14:27
ActionParsnip1whiteda: depends on you stance on bloat14:27
robin0800christ: Well do you like it or not14:27
whitedaActionParsnip1, sure - I am going to load ubuntu 8.10  so I will have all that - Im just wondering if I will have problems running kde4 apps there14:27
christi sad, looks cool, but i have not test it 100%14:28
whitedagot lots of room on the ubuntu partition14:28
whitedathanks14:28
ActionParsnip1whiteda: should e fine14:28
Dr_williskde4is very much still a work in progress14:29
knihi, where is scanning software in Kubuntu Intrepid? I can't find kooka anymore :-\14:29
Dr_willis!info kooka14:29
ubottuPackage kooka does not exist in intrepid14:29
Dr_willisegads :)14:29
robin0800christ: once you add screen savers and wallpapers its OK14:29
kniso what should I use?14:30
christ:P ok man, i'll try it14:30
whitedathanks ActionParsnip1 Dr_willis  - I will test the apps one at a time and go forward14:30
root1hm..--;14:30
ilhhi, new to kde. is there app such as drapes in gnome to randomly change wallpaper14:30
ActionParsnip1!find scan14:30
ActionParsnip1!scanning14:30
ubottuScanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR14:31
genii-around!info hppa14:31
ubottuPackage hppa does not exist in intrepid14:31
genii-aroundHm14:31
root1not good Kubuntu --;14:31
kni!find OCR14:32
genii-aroundWeird, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/kooka/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 shows kooka exists for Intrepid. Theres even a deb there14:33
genii-around( i386 arch )14:33
kniI have 64bit system :(14:34
genii-aroundkni: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/kooka/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1    shows there is also a 64 bit version14:35
TweakingDayhello14:37
ActionParsnip1genii-around: smooth :)14:38
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knibut kooka is _not_ in repo anyway14:38
knican't install via aptitude14:38
genii-aroundLooks like it might be part of larger package called kdegraphics14:39
natschilhello14:39
knikdegraphics installs  kcolorchooser{a} kdegraphics kgamma{a} kolourpaint4{a} kruler{a}14:40
natschildoes anyone know if there is a package to compile the ubuntu kernel sources?14:41
knikooka isn't in kdegraphics14:41
andylockran!kooka14:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kooka14:41
andylockran:(14:41
Pici!info skanlite14:41
ubottuskanlite (source: skanlite): KDE 4 image scanning application. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2-kde4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1185 kB, installed size 1608 kB14:41
genii-aroundPici: Thanks14:41
Picigenii-around: thank jussi0114:42
emmaAnyone here have any thoughts on this -- http://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm14:43
knithanks, Pici!14:43
Dr_willisIve never noticed much benifits from swiftfox.. of course theres also  a lot of flame-wars aboutit. :)14:43
emmaI'm looking for a good way to avoid getting all the GNOME libs by installing firefox14:43
kniwhat is configuration tool for scanner in KDE4 ?14:44
emmaIf you just install firefox from ubuntu repos, you will get a massive amount of GNOME libs14:44
TweakingDaynew user here. just installed 8.10. after installing nvidia through adept (hardware drivers app didn't work at all) i get a blank screen. recovered using recovery mode's try to fix X. how can i install them?14:44
Dr_willisHmm.. firefox just uses the gtk libx i thought..  never noticed.. Im using gnome. :)14:44
jussi01emma: just apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox14:44
emmaDr_willis: I see. Yeah it uses gtk libs which is fine, but the Ubuntu packager has set it up so that apt will install all the recommended stuff as well which gives you a TON of GNOME libs14:45
emmajussi01: i've done something like that with sudo aptitude -R install firefox so that it does not install the ubufox. But then you get strange errors from libonoboui14:45
emmabecause there is some file that's missing.14:45
ilhTweakingDay: No need to enter recovery mode14:46
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TweakingDayilh: i'm just learning. see recover X, choose recover X. and it did work...14:47
TweakingDaythe problem remains though..14:48
jussi01emma: Ive used the no instal recommends way, and firefox works fine here14:48
emmajussi01: okay I'll try that with an -s option too.14:48
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ilhTweakingDay: Now you can enter to graphic mode?14:48
TweakingDayilh: yes i'm in usual mode now..14:49
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ilhTweakingDay: OK14:49
TweakingDaybut the drivers are still not installed though....14:50
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shiftplusoneHello, I can't get usb-creator to work with a kubuntu ISO.... anybody who can help?14:50
knisorry, what is the tool for scanner configuration in KDE 4.1?14:50
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emmajussi01: that looks promissing.14:51
emmajussi01: do me a favor and start firefox in a terminal14:53
emmajussi01: see if you get this error -- (firefox:8627): Gtk-WARNING **: libbonoboui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory14:53
ilhTweakingDay: it should be easy from adept. is there error message14:53
dave_good morning folks14:54
emma<voice style="calm_robot"> God morning dave_ </voice>14:55
dave_morning emma14:55
dave_so how come theirs so many people on but no one talks14:55
TweakingDayilh:  from adept it gave no error but upon reboot showed blank screen. after that i can activate it though the driver app but with the same effect14:56
emmaOn IRC it is common to idle and to engage in communication asyncrhonously.14:56
natschilmorning?14:56
dave_well...it's morning here in the southern part of the U.S. lol14:56
natschillol14:56
TweakingDaymorning, night. potato..14:57
dave_lol14:57
dave_u must be on the other side of the world14:57
natschilgmt +214:57
TweakingDayno sir, YOU'RE on the other side.14:57
natschilI think14:57
dave_ahhhh14:57
dave_lol14:57
TweakingDaytrue. ctcp is not very eh.. clandestine14:58
TweakingDaynow i need to find them options14:58
dave_so does everyone in here just talk about kubuntu?14:58
TweakingDayno14:58
TweakingDaybut right now i'm trying to make the system work so i can switch from win14:59
dave_what probs you having...14:59
TweakingDaywell i'm starting with the basics. so i'm trying to install the nvidia driver14:59
TweakingDay(with hope that it might fix the flickering lines among other things)15:00
TweakingDaybut they bring me to a blank screen on the grafic part (x, yes?)15:00
dave_hmmm15:01
TweakingDayoh yes let me try that. hmm: command not found.15:01
natschilwhats your grphics card?15:01
TweakingDay6100 on board15:01
dave_which nvidia driver are you trying to install?  the one in kubuntu's driver list?15:01
dave_that's considered proprietary?15:02
TweakingDayyes15:02
TweakingDaythat one15:02
dave_sounds like their may be some sort of inconsistency with it...maybe the driver version is too old15:02
dave_have you tried using the one from nvidia's website?15:02
TweakingDayhavn't tried that.. let's see....15:03
dave_u just need to know which version you need...x64 or x8615:03
TweakingDay177.80?15:03
dave_lemme check real quick15:03
TweakingDaythank it is already checked15:04
shreedhar#dhqifx15:04
jussi01emma: sorry, no I dont get that error15:04
emmaI get that error now that I installed firefox.15:05
dave_yes, it's the 177.80 version15:05
dave_what kind of card do you have?15:06
christehm, good day, i was trying to upgrade to Intrepid from an alternate installation CD, and when i try to add it as a repo i get this error, can somebody help me? http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/623/sinnombregf5.png15:06
natschilI have no experience with nvidia drivers, but wouldn't sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 work?15:06
TweakingDaynatschil: i've already installed from adept what i guess is the same.. didn't work that well.15:07
dave_your probably going to have to use the ones from nvidia15:07
emmajussi01: this is what I'm getting in terminal now -- http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/d78bd09015:07
TweakingDaydownloading as we speak. is there like a general overview guide to linux, to ubuntu...?15:07
dave_only issue with that is they need to be installed from the shell without X15:07
TweakingDayi feel like i don't know anything. (which is more or less true)15:08
dave_if you've never spent much time with linux tweakingday google is about to become your best friend lol15:08
andylockranTweakingDay: give it time I'm sure you'll feel bette15:08
andylockrangoogle is very good.. especially the word 'howto'15:08
TweakingDaymust close x, or just switch to tty?15:08
emmajussi01: maybe it's different because you are using an old kubuntu and I'm using a fresh install15:08
dave_kubuntu, ubuntu and Suse are about the easiest ones i've found to use15:08
dave_must close x15:09
andylockranTweakingDay: what's the prob ?15:09
jussi01emma: no, this is a last week fresh install15:09
dave_with tty x is still running15:09
emmajussi01: what can explain the difference then?15:09
emmaI wonder how do I get rid of those errors.15:09
jussi01emma: wait a moment please15:09
TweakingDayno see i know that. it's easy to find instructions to to specific things. but i want some overview like i know the inside of win works, but not here.15:09
emmajussi01: sure no problem :)15:09
andylockranTweakingDay: give me two minutes15:09
dave_that pretty much comes with time15:09
dave_k15:09
christa little help with me now?15:10
TweakingDayandylockran:  thanks. in the mean time i'll try that driver thing.15:10
dave_if your running a new release (bleeding edge, imo) your asking for trouble15:10
dave_it's gonna have bugs15:10
christDr_willis ?15:10
genii-arounddave_: I usually go from LTS to LTS release for that very reason15:10
TweakingDaydave_: how do i gracefully close x without restarting?15:10
dave_same here15:10
emmafor christ's sake could someone help him?15:11
TweakingDaylol@emma15:11
dave_i believe it's killx15:11
dave_killX15:11
dave_something like that15:11
andylockranTweakingDay: open and terminal and type /etc/init.d/kdm stop.15:11
emmaTweakingDay: :p15:11
dave_i'm not 100% sure it's not everyday i try to stop x lol15:11
TweakingDaythanks ok then... brb ... i hope....15:12
dave_yeah what andy said lmao15:12
genii-aroundchrist: It hints perhaps your disk is full. What says result of command in Konsole of:    df -h15:12
andylockranTweakingDay: http://tinyurl.com/24avqb15:13
christgenii-around: http://pastebin.com/m242994fa15:13
andylockranright.. who else has problems ?15:13
andylockranchrist: what's the problem?15:13
jussi01emma: I havent looked at the depends on this, but to fix your issue, install the package: libbonoboui2-015:14
genii-aroundchrist: OK. Room on HD is not the problem then.15:14
christim trying to upgrade from an alternate cd15:14
* andylockran missed the colon on genii-around and though they were just getting annoyed15:14
emmajussi01: Now I'm getting this when I navigate to a new site -- (npviewer.bin:8689): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqt4engine.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6415:14
genii-aroundchrist: When you created the CD, did you check the MD5 sum of the iso file you made it from?15:15
dave_andylockran: wow that's a nice guide right there15:15
christyes genii-around15:15
emmachrist: before you do the upgrade did you make backups?15:15
jussi01emma: ahh, that horrible gtk-qt-engine - I hate it and dont have it installed. bit uglier but at least it doesnt break stuff15:15
dave_brb15:15
andylockranback in a min15:15
emmajussi01: ahh. I did not install it. I think it comes with the default fresh install.15:16
christwait, just a sec, brb15:16
genii-aroundchrist: Did you make the CD with checking (to verify was made without errors)15:16
christyes genii-around15:16
genii-aroundBecause "hash mismatch" etc look like file corruption on CD15:16
jussi01emma: hrm, ok, well actually it is installed here... weird15:17
emmaYes it's really weird.15:17
emmaI did sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox15:17
genii-aroundchrist: Did you do:     sudo apt-get update                          after adding the cd as a repository?15:18
emmaIt did keep me from getting the ubofox which installs all the GNOME libs. But it gives me this set up with all these errors in terminal.15:18
christgenii-around: i cant add the cd, when i try i get the error15:18
hpadministrateurbonjour à tous15:18
TweakingDaywell.. that was quick. it just gave me "can't open" error. it is a .run file?15:18
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dave_yes it is15:19
dave_sh /nvidia-blahblahblah.run15:19
TweakingDayexactly15:19
emmachrist: I hope you made backups15:19
TweakingDayoooohh15:19
christwhy emma?15:19
chris80comment peut on mettre des widget avec kubuntu15:19
genii-aroundchrist: Please use pastebin website and show contents of file /etc/apt/sources.list15:19
genii-around!paste | christ15:19
ubottuchrist: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:19
emmaBecause everyone knows christ saves.15:20
TweakingDayis that / at the beginning necessary even if i switched to the directory it's in?15:20
TweakingDaylol she keeps going15:20
dave_lmao15:20
genii-around!fr | chris8015:20
ubottuchris80: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr15:20
emmaty ty i'll be here all week.15:20
christgenii-around: http://pastebin.com/d7f86331815:21
TweakingDayreally? *weird face* don't you have anywhere to go?15:21
genii-aroundchrist: Reading15:21
christok15:21
TweakingDaystill: is that / at the beginning necessary even if i switched to the directory it's in?15:21
TweakingDaystill is not a nick, fyi and just in case.15:21
emmaNope. #kubuntu is pretty much the pinacle of my self-actualisation. I'm fulfilled here.15:22
dave_yes15:22
dave_give me a sec15:22
TweakingDayok.. so will go try again. brb.15:22
dave_do it with the ./15:23
dave_sh ./nvidia.run15:23
TweakingDayooh a dot. how did it get there. ok that's great just.. what was the x kill code?15:23
TweakingDayi'll write it down this time...15:23
emmajussi01: installing libbonoboui2-0 installs the following GNOME deps -- http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/d50876a0815:25
dave_TweakingDay: open and terminal and type /etc/init.d/kdm stop.15:25
TweakingDaynvm found it.15:25
emmaSo it seems to me that the ubuntu packagers may have made a mistake and there is a bug in firefox for kubuntu users.15:25
TweakingDayi was quicker :P15:25
dave_lol15:26
emmabecause why can't kubuntu users get firefox without GNOME libs?15:26
dave_i'm using firefox 2 right now in kubuntu but i'm running the LTS version15:26
dave_you pay when you attempt to utilize new releases15:27
emma<voice style="creepy_calm_computer"> That's a very interesting point dave_ </voice>15:28
TweakingDayi just installed FF3.0.3 on kubuntu 8.10.. so..... i don't know15:28
TweakingDayStopping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).15:28
jussi01emma: did you install it the way I said?15:28
TweakingDayin the end i'll just go nuts and.. and.... go back to win. yes i said it.15:28
genii-aroundchrist: Try closing Adept. Then in Konsole:    sudo apt-cdrom -a -d /media/cdrom0 add15:28
emmajussi01: yes exactly the way you said.15:28
emmajussi01: you mean firefox or libbonoboui2-0 ?15:29
jussi01emma: firefox15:29
emmaI installed firefox, as you suggested, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox15:29
andylockranhi15:29
jussi01emma: now install libbonobui the same way15:30
dave_wow u gave up easy15:30
emmaokay let's see what that does.15:30
christgenii-around: http://pastebin.com/m2646be1f15:31
dave_oh...you will go nuts...that's a givin'15:31
dig!reg15:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about reg15:31
TweakingDaykdm status says kdm is not running. it does so in konsole window near konversation window with a nice wallpaper and all that!15:31
dave_might need to just do a restart15:32
dighi, anyone knows the regular expression channel?15:32
dave_try using Fedora and having to rebuild all your packages for mp3 support and the like ;)15:32
dave_u found it...we are regularly expressing ourselves here lol15:32
TweakingDay"/ch[ea]nnel/"15:32
TweakingDaylol15:33
TweakingDayi'll go reboot15:33
dave_k15:33
jonasbetHOLA15:33
emmajussi01: doing sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends libbonobo2-0 will install the following GNOME deps -- libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common15:33
dave_hello15:33
jonasbethi15:33
jonasbetwhat is this?15:33
dave_a chat channel15:34
jonasbeta channel for help?15:34
jonasbetkubuntu?15:34
dave_sure...if someone will help you lol15:34
dave_yes15:34
emmajonasbet: animal mineral or vegetable?15:34
jonasbetohhh its great15:34
jonasbetwhere r u dave?15:34
dave_meataterrian15:34
dave_in Tennessee15:34
dave_i'm actually inside your computer right now15:34
jonasbetare american using linux?15:34
jussi01!ot15:35
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:35
dave_i'm taking your ram out as we speak15:35
dave_lol15:35
jonasbettaking my ram?15:35
emmaI wonder if a Kubuntu motu could make a Kfirefox package for us, because there is a bug in the firefox package for Ubuntu.15:35
jonasbetfor what?15:35
dave_i'm kidding with you bro15:35
jonasbetjaja15:35
jonasbetim new with linux15:35
dave_yes i'm an American using linux...it also runs warcraft well too ;)15:35
emmaWhere can I find the Kubuntu MOTUs ?15:35
jussi01emma: its been discussed previously15:35
jonasbetit works well15:35
jonasbetbut when you have a problem you need to be engeneer to go trought it15:36
dave_yes...until you think of doing something cool with it lol15:36
dig!regular15:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about regular15:36
dave_where are you from jonasbet?15:37
christgenii-around did you find the error?15:37
jussi01Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter! (this channel is for support questions only)15:37
natschilhello15:41
natschili'm just wondering what the dependencies for building plasmoids are15:42
dave_u need uranium and a mixer...other etc lol15:43
TweakingDayso...15:43
dave_how'd it go man?15:44
TweakingDaya man reboots. and guess what15:44
TweakingDaysame error15:44
dave_oh nooooooooooooooooo15:44
TweakingDayoh noes.15:44
JontheEchidnanatschil: installing libplasma-dev and  kdebase-workspace-dev should do it15:44
natschilthx15:44
christgenii-around: forget it: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading15:45
TweakingDayoh and it turns out i'm running vesa not nv driver atm.15:45
dave_wow that really blows15:45
Dr_willisIve notied the live cd does that on my 2 ubuntu machines also.15:45
Dr_willishad to tweak the xorg.conf and restart the X server on the live cd15:45
genii-aroundBack15:46
genii-aroundchrist: Apologies, work required me for a time15:47
christNP genii-around15:47
genii-aroundchrist: Is the method described on the upgrade page working for you?15:48
christapartently15:49
christlet me try15:49
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dave_brbg15:52
dave_brb15:52
christgenii-around: is working ^^15:52
genii-aroundchrist: Ah, good :)15:54
TEUTATEXhello15:54
BsimsIs apt.personcomputing down?15:54
christgenii-around: thanks for all your attention ^^15:54
genii-around!hi15:54
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:54
genii-aroundchrist: I'm just glad your issue is resolved15:54
christ^^15:54
TEUTATEXjust trying to install kubuntu to my laptop15:54
* Bsims grrs my kde 3.5 repository for intrepid is now 40415:55
TEUTATEXdownload ok. but when burning image to cd, "not enuf space" happens15:56
TEUTATEXwhy?15:56
TweakingDaydid you check md5?15:56
TEUTATEXwait...15:56
TEUTATEXnope. did not15:57
TweakingDayregardless it's a good thing to do.15:57
yeniklasorshutdown -t 1000 -h   is not working, what is true code?15:57
TweakingDayi suggest you compare the md5 of the downloaded image with what it should be15:57
genii-aroundTEUTATEX: Perhaps checkthe Laptop Testing Team page also to see if there are specific issues with your model15:58
genii-aroundTEUTATEX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam15:58
zsoltihi everybody16:00
TEUTATEXthe issue I have is about burnin' the image cd16:00
TweakingDaymaybe you're using 650 cd?16:00
TweakingDayzsolti: hi16:00
genii-aroundPerhaps you downloaded a DVD image16:01
TEUTATEXno. cd-image & 650 CD16:01
TEUTATEXlol16:01
zsoltii have some problem with windows wireless drivers software, Can anyone help me?16:01
TweakingDayso it is 650?16:01
BsimsAnyone know a tool that I can turn loose to automate building of kde from source? prefer it left a folder full of debs when it got finished16:01
TEUTATEXyup16:01
TweakingDaybecause the images are 700....16:01
genii-aroundTEUTATEX: The CD image is like 704Mb or so16:01
TEUTATEXnoticed that16:01
TweakingDayso there's your reason16:01
dave_wow teakingday your on it bro16:02
TEUTATEXthanks dudes!16:02
TweakingDayso you can't burn it to a 65016:02
TweakingDayyw TEUTATEX16:02
TweakingDaydave_:  on what?16:02
TEUTATEXgonna burn now. c ya16:02
TweakingDaybye16:02
genii-aroundBsims: I'm not sure any such animal exists16:03
dave_on the whole cd iso issue16:03
TweakingDaydave_: btw, the prob is as was. i'm basically doing nothing right now.16:04
dave_lol...well i'm going to feed the kid and i'll be back in a few16:04
TweakingDayno the kid can wait.16:04
TweakingDayi want want my driver :P16:04
BsimsDarn genii-around16:05
BsimsWell see my kde 3.5 repository for Ibex went 404, and kde 4.1 is too unstable/gives me hives to use16:06
dave_lol16:06
genii-aroundBsims: There is no 3.5 for 8.10 but there is some workaround... the link was given here recently but I do not have a record right now of it...1 minute16:07
BsimsI have the link its coming up 40416:07
genii-aroundBsims: Thats because there is no repo of 3.5 for Intrepid16:08
Bsimshttp://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ had one its 404 currently16:08
BsimsI was wanting to build my own repo16:08
Bsimsgenii-around: I know how to build from source I was wanting something that would work recursivly and crap out a pile of debs for me16:11
jabapythi just installed Intrepid from the CD, and the Splash screen is freezing. The hard drive-looking thing appears, then a few other icons half-fade in, and the whole thing just stops. Any tips?16:15
jabapythhmm...now if I try clicking on the splash screen before anything loads...i get the desktop, but then that freezes as soon as a little "lightbulb" icon appears in the system tray...16:17
jabapythdoes anyone know what a "lightbulb icon" in the system tray means?16:17
jussi01jabapyth: click it and see :D16:18
jabapythI cant16:18
jabapyththe desktop freezes16:18
jussi01jabapyth: really?16:18
jabapythya16:18
jabapythi can move the mouse, but thats it16:18
edi_99Hi guys. What must I install to get Java applets working in mozilla16:18
jussi01jabapyth: anywya, its just a notification of some sort of stuff that is good to know after an update/install of some software16:19
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jabapythedi_99: search for "java" in the add/remove programs. install the java browser plugin16:19
edi_99'cuz I have java 6 jdk & i've just installed sun-java plugins for mozilla16:19
jabapythand it still doesnt work?16:19
edi_99no16:19
edi_99i've used command sudo ... sun-java6-plugin16:20
jussi01edi_99: install kubuntu-restricted-extras - gets you flash, java, mp3 support and other stuff16:20
edi_99do I just tipe sudo..kubuntu rest...16:21
edi_99type*16:21
jabapythya, to install 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'16:21
TweakingDayhello16:25
TweakingDayagain16:25
jussi01TweakingDay: hi!16:26
* Tm_T hides16:26
ovidiubodeahy16:26
TweakingDaystill can see you16:26
jussi01TweakingDay: everything ok?16:26
TweakingDayok, any ideas on this flickering lines as you type thing?16:26
TweakingDayjussi01: in the general sense, yes, in the ubuntu sense not at all.16:27
jussi01TweakingDay: please tell me more, your graphicard, driver etc?16:27
TweakingDaysure.16:27
TweakingDaythe card is 6100 nvidia onboard.16:28
TweakingDaythe current drv is vesa.16:28
TweakingDayi was trying to install the NV proprietary but was not successfull even with the kind help of people here.16:28
jussi01TweakingDay: ok, kubuntu version?16:28
TweakingDay8.1016:29
TweakingDayand a new (now less) eager user.16:29
jussi01TweakingDay: ok, lets try get this fixed.16:29
TweakingDayright now i have the .run file from NV site. but when i try to sh it, it just says not found.16:29
TweakingDayi'd be ever so greatful16:29
NetersLandreauhi.. does anyone use Xdebug? apache keeps giving me a seg fault when i try to run code coverage..16:30
genii-aroundDid you try    ./filename      instead of sh filename           ?16:30
TweakingDayindeed i did16:30
jussi01TweakingDay: ok, so what happens when you go to kmenu, system, harware drivers16:30
TweakingDaywith sudo too16:30
NetersLandreaui'm running xdebug 2.1.0-dev and php -m shows it loaded correctly16:30
jussi01TweakingDay: Ill walk you through several diferent ways, starting with the recommended ways16:31
genii-aroundTweakingDay: Did you sudo chmod +x    the .run  file?16:31
cant_loginlaptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help16:32
TweakingDayjussi01: ok, i should also tell that when i selected the driver from that app, it seemed to have worked (after manual install of drivers from adept) but when rebooted it gave a blank screen.16:32
jussi01TweakingDay: ok16:32
TweakingDaygenii-around: i did not, i afraid have no idea what that means16:33
jussi01TweakingDay: do you have another pc to talk to me from if something goes wrong?16:33
TweakingDaynope..16:33
genii-aroundTweakingDay: It means to make the file executable16:33
TweakingDaybut i can recover using fix org from recover mode :)16:33
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jabapythjussi01: i fixed it. I just ran a sudo apt-get upgrade, and there a bunch of updates. now it works! :D16:34
jussi01jabapyth: great :D16:34
jussi01TweakingDay: ok. when you say blank screen, what do you mean?16:34
TweakingDaygenii-around: so the command is just: chmod +x filename?16:34
TweakingDayjussi01: i mean black. showing nothing. but i was able to switch to tty16:35
jussi01TweakingDay: lets go through this first, then jhave a look at genii-around's solution, ok?16:35
TweakingDayah yes.. i appreciate all your help but can't do two things at once...16:35
genii-aroundTweakingDay: No, you require sudo as the way I showed. But perhaps follow jussi01 first16:35
jason__anyone how to change the clock to 12 hr.instead of 2416:35
* Aelwyn is away: Ausente por el momento16:35
jussi01jason__: hardy or intrepid?16:36
jason__hardy16:36
jussi01TweakingDay: so please enable the driver through the hardware drivers app16:36
TweakingDayjussi01: ok. it says that i have to restart.16:37
jussi01TweakingDay: if it then comes up blank screen, try going and logging into the tty and running: sudo nvidia-xoconfig16:37
jussi01then reboot again16:37
TweakingDayaha ok.. that was my next q16:37
jussi01:)16:37
jussi01wait TweakingDay!16:37
TweakingDayno o there?16:37
TweakingDay:)16:37
jussi01its: sudo nvidia-xconfig16:37
jussi01typo'd ;)16:37
jussi01:D16:38
TweakingDayok, brb. (i hope)16:38
jussi01:D16:38
cant_loginlaptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help16:38
jussi01jason__: dont remember in hardy, its eiither in system settings - time and date? or tight click the clock16:38
jussi01right*16:38
rafihello16:40
rafii need help ?16:41
jussi01!ask | rafi16:41
ubotturafi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:41
chris80bonjour16:41
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rafido you speak french16:42
rafido you speak french ?16:42
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technikkhello everyone16:44
technikkbest regards from serbia :)16:44
genii-aroundtechnikk: Welcome to the Kubuntu support channel. Is there some issue with your Kubuntu requiring assistance?16:45
TweakingDaytada16:45
jussi01TweakingDay: worked?16:46
TweakingDaynope :D16:46
theconquerorHi everybody...16:46
jussi01oh :/16:46
technikkgenii-around, not for now, anyway tnx for the help :)16:46
TweakingDaybut16:46
TweakingDayi noticed something16:46
jussi01which is?16:46
TweakingDayit's not exactly black screen16:47
TweakingDaythere's like a thin line at the top16:47
jussi01ok?16:47
TweakingDayand i think that moving the mouse moved some pixel there16:47
TweakingDaythat's it sorry16:47
dave_did u get it fixed tweakingday?16:48
TweakingDaydave_:  afraid not16:48
dave_TweakingDay: just open the side of the case and take a paper clip to your motherboard that will fix it lmao16:48
TweakingDayjussi01: the nvidia-xconfig did work but mainly said something about sections not found...16:48
cant_loginlaptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help16:49
TweakingDaydave_: i told you: i'm new to linux. can you show me on your pc how it's done? :D16:49
davisone ae galera alguem fala portugues aew?16:49
jussi01TweakingDay: can you try something for me? there are updated nvidia drivers in the propsed repository - they work well - I have them at home, perhaps you could enable that repo and try them perhaps?16:49
TweakingDayjus16:49
genii-around!pt | davison16:49
ubottudavison: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:49
TweakingDayjussi01:  i d/l them through the what's the name16:50
TweakingDayadept16:50
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TweakingDaywait, in the which rep exactly?16:50
jussi01TweakingDay: in proposed repo16:50
TweakingDayooh now that might be something else. lemme check.16:51
TweakingDayi see main, universe, restricted, multi?16:51
jussi01TweakingDay: go to adept, sources, edit sources, updates tab, click them all16:51
TweakingDayah there16:51
jussi01then update16:52
TweakingDayworking.....16:52
dave_TweakingDay: i don't think so bro lol16:52
TweakingDaydave_: are you sure?16:52
jussi01ok, then try re enabluing them in hardware drivers16:52
TweakingDaywe can make screenshots16:52
TweakingDayeta 0.5 min16:53
dave_TweakingDay: lmao....nah that's alright16:53
jussi01TweakingDay: he was joking...16:53
TweakingDayjussi01: so was i... so was i... :D16:53
TweakingDayi havn't used irc in ages... ah the memmories16:54
jussi01rofl16:54
dave_lmfao16:54
TweakingDayok a small issue here16:54
TweakingDayafter enabling all the updates sources and letting it get the list16:55
jussi01?16:55
TweakingDayit shows 108 new updates available16:55
jussi01yes, thats likely.16:55
TweakingDaynow, they don't install by themselves but..?16:55
jussi01TweakingDay: exit adept16:55
jussi01TweakingDay: then just click the little green/grey cog/arrow in your tray16:56
TweakingDayok..16:57
TweakingDaynow that i've selected it to upgrade, in preview i have a rather long list..?16:57
jussi01yes, likely16:57
TweakingDayso let it all upgrade too?16:57
TweakingDayor unselect?16:57
jussi01TweakingDay: up to you, but I have all those updates and running fine.16:58
dave_TweakingDay: just use the darn paperclip!16:58
dave_lol16:58
TweakingDaydave_: lol16:58
* jussi01 slaps dave_ :D16:58
dave_lmao16:58
cant_loginlaptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help16:59
TweakingDayi'm upgrading only the drv16:59
jussi01TweakingDay: ok.16:59
dave_someone should tell cant_login to use a paperclip on his machine too16:59
cant_loginjussi01, dave_, any ideas what might be casuing my issue..any packages you can thin of resinstalling??17:00
jussi01TweakingDay: I think those updates are to update to 4.1.3, which is a good thing17:00
genii-aroundcant_login: You are selecting from kdm sessions list the type of kde and not console login when entering your username/pass ?17:00
TweakingDaydave_: i found you something: http://tinyurl.com/6rdr9y17:00
cant_loginit seems i can do anything from a command line.. i just can't log into kdm, if i switch the session to gdm, same thing.. can't get past the login window17:01
ntBizde Varız Bu Alemde..!17:01
reanimationhi guys17:01
TweakingDayhey17:01
cant_loginhello17:01
dave_TweakingDay: what's that?17:01
reanimationthis is my first time in irc please guide me17:01
TweakingDaytake a look17:01
dave_cant_login: take a look at what?17:02
reanimationplz tell me about this17:02
dave_TweakingDay: lmfao...that is awesome17:02
TweakingDaywe're all expecting live feed as you apply it17:02
nthi17:03
dave_reanimation: this is my first time since i've used IRC in years...so i'm no good to ya...google it man17:03
dave_TweakingDay: sure thing buddy...i'm going to get right on that *dave sets up cameras*17:03
TweakingDaydave, you're not supposed to be drinking that early. he's not asking for help with irc.17:04
reanimationhey guys plz visit this website www.opensourcex.tk17:04
TweakingDayand i'm rebooting17:04
dave_[11:01] <reanimation> this is my first time in irc please guide me17:04
dave_that's what he said teakingday17:04
genii-aroundreanimation: Do you have some Kubuntu support issue?17:05
reanimationa17:06
jussi01reanimation: please dont spam us in here ;)17:06
dave_lol17:06
dave_Gain five inches instantly!....17:07
dave_on your Big Toe....17:07
dave_lmao17:07
genii-aroundreanimation: If you have no support question, please visit instead channel #kubuntu-offtopic   for casual talk17:07
reanimationguy's this website is created by me to support linux in & opensource in india plz take a look and give your suggestions17:07
jussi01dave_: Id suggest heading over to #kubuntu-offtopic - more fun for general chatter in there.17:08
genii-aroundreanimation: Again, it is not a support area which is appropriate for asking this17:08
jussi01reanimation: #kubuntu-offtopic then please.17:08
reanimationokay guys have a nice day17:08
reanimationhuman knowledge belongs to the world17:09
dave_oh c'mon i was just kidding17:10
jussi01dave_: I know, but we need to keep this channel pretty strictly ontopic ;)17:10
dave_k...then how do i select my compiz effects....(seriously)17:11
dave_i have them on but i have no wobbly windows or anythign17:11
jussi01dave_: on kde4?17:11
dave_no 3.517:12
TweakingDaywell17:12
TweakingDayat least the xfix still works :)17:12
jussi01dave_: and you have compiz instgalled?P17:12
delicowawill somebody tell me how to get kde4. I am kinda too lazy to google17:12
dave_jussi01: i'm in the compize desktop effects right now17:12
TweakingDayyou can't be lazy on linux17:12
jussi01delicowa: install kubuntu 8.10?17:12
TweakingDayit's an inherent incompatibility17:12
jussi01dave_: so you have install ccsm and are in it?17:13
TweakingDaydave_:  you don't have to rub it in17:13
delicowathanks jussi0117:13
dave_TweakingDay: lol17:13
dave_jussi01: yes it is installed17:13
jussi01dave_: just alt+f2: ccsm'17:14
jussi01dave_: just alt+f2: ccsm17:14
jussi01iirc17:14
delicowais any body getting display problems with the new kernel . it is just simply horrible when I play videos and wine games17:14
dave_it opened up konqueror and tried to go to a website17:14
jussi01err?17:15
dave_jussi01: well actually it opened up the run window...i typed in ccsm and hit enter and then it opened konqueror and tried searching ccsm17:16
jussi01oh I really dont remember, I use kde4 now..17:16
jussi01:(17:16
jussi01genii-around: any recollections?17:16
TweakingDayum\17:17
TweakingDayso. any other ideas?17:17
cant_logingenii-around, yes, kdm & gdm login do the same thing, the screen goes black like it usually does after i put in the password, but instead of the kde loading window, i get the login screen again17:17
TweakingDaythat paper clip starting to look good17:17
dave_TweakingDay: lol17:18
genii-around!info compizconfig-settings-manager17:18
ubottucompizconfig-settings-manager (source: compizconfig-settings-manager): Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.8-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 619 kB, installed size 4048 kB17:18
genii-arounddave_: Do you have that package installed? (or simple-ccsm)17:19
dave_checking now17:19
dave_oh snap guys that did it!17:21
genii-aroundcant_login: I think you have a stale lockfile someplace in /var/run relating to X17:21
delicowaI ordered hardy heron august and I have installed it17:21
TweakingDayi'm happy for you dave_17:21
delicowado you suppose it would be ok to request for intrepid17:21
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dave_TweakingDay: well i feel terrible cause your still all jacked up over there17:22
jussi01delicowa: yeah, probably17:22
TweakingDayyes, i was going for that :P17:23
TweakingDayno, i'm jk...17:23
jussi01TweakingDay: so how did it go? updated yet?17:23
TweakingDaywell it didn't work17:23
TweakingDaysame results17:23
luca_!lisrt17:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lisrt17:24
luca_!list17:24
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:24
jussi01TweakingDay:  :(17:24
TweakingDayif it's installing but makes use of weird config maybe i can edit something from the tty?17:24
TweakingDayor how about that chmod thing?17:25
genii-aroundcant_login: Please install package pastebinit by:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit           then use that to show us the contents of file:  ~/.xsession-errors         by:  cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit17:25
cant_logingenii-around.. i am very unfamiliar with the lockfiles.. the only time i ever see that is when i accidentally try to run two apt-get installs at once.  can you help me with that a little more?17:25
delicowa@jussi01:Sorry to bother you. the hardy I have is gnome from cd.but I downloaded and installed kde(kubuntu).do you suppose the upgrade to intrepid will give me KDE4...although I am still doing the upgrade.. stuffs seems to be a bit slow around here today17:25
cant_loginwell.. i can't copy & paste because i can't login far enough to copy anything genii17:26
cant_loginwell.. i can't copy & paste because i can't login far enough to copy anything genii-around17:26
jussi01delicowa: yes, it should17:26
cant_logini can install that package via tty.. i'm just not sure how to do anything with it from there17:26
dave_now how do I have four desktops instead of two?17:26
genii-aroundcant_login: pastebinit is a COMMAND LINE pastebin17:27
delicowa@jussi01: thanks a lot I'll just wait for it17:27
cant_loginohh.. alright.. give me a min17:27
p_mashohow do I enable the hardy-backports repos ?17:27
TweakingDaydave_: right click the choose thing17:27
TweakingDayconfigure desktops17:27
delicowa@p_masho17:27
p_mashoDO i have to add it the te repositories ?17:28
jussi01p_masho: open adept, sources, edit sources, updates tab17:28
dave_TweakingDay: Did that already and set the number of Desktops to 4 but it keeps reverting back to 217:28
p_mashoie unsupported updates..17:28
delicowaor on gnome system-administrator-software sources17:29
p_mashoOr can i just make the main repos "intrepid" ?17:29
TweakingDayoh. then you'll have to wait for line 2 support :P17:29
Copelia!fr17:29
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cant_loginalright.. issued command "cat ~/.xsession-errors17:29
p_mashojussi01: but I got no entry in there for hardy-backports17:29
dave_TweakingDay: lol...will the paperclip answer for tier 2 support? lol17:30
cant_loginalright.. issued command "cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit" recieved "KeyboardInterrupt caught." & dropped me back to prompt17:30
JasonCOwhere can i edit the settings for the menu entries on my K menu?17:30
delicowaplease can any body tell me why my firefox is slowing down17:30
genii-aroundcant_login: The command is:     cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit17:30
TweakingDaydave_: no no ...that's at level 5-617:30
cant_loginsaid "KeyboardInterrupt caught." then back to prompt17:30
jussi01p_masho: unsupported updates ;)17:30
genii-aroundcant_login: Then give us URL it says of pastebin address it shows you17:30
cant_loginohh.. alright17:30
TweakingDaydelicowa: define slowing down please17:30
delicowaopen k-menu and  right-click on the left edge you should see edit menu17:31
p_mashogot that.. but it doesnt give me kde 4.1.3 ;-(17:31
delicowawhe I type in an address it hangs for a while like 20 secs or there about then continues17:31
cant_loginhttp://pastebin.com/f6e0b4dc117:31
reanimation#ubuntu-pk17:31
TweakingDaydoes the "awesome bar" seem to be working when you do this?17:32
genii-aroundcant_login: Thank you. Reading now17:32
dave_TweakingDay: "awesome bar" i'm clueless17:32
TweakingDayawesomebar is the nickname for the address bat in ver 3 FF17:32
TweakingDaythey've added some features. some love it, some hate it.17:33
TweakingDayi'm more or less ok with it after tweaking it to look like the normal ver 2 bar.17:33
delicowano it doesnt...that where it hangs....just when I am entering the address.. and also when I try to save a page17:33
genii-aroundcant_login:     rm ~/.DCOPserver_MEDION__017:34
TweakingDayso.. you'd type some letters.. it'd hang, and only after a while present the options?17:34
delicowayup17:34
TweakingDaysee. awesomebar is not awesome.17:34
delicowaat all17:35
dave_ok i still don't have a cube this is ticking me off17:35
TweakingDaythey should fix some things about it in 3.117:35
delicowasame thing happens to epiphany too17:35
sandersenAny Apache wizards in here?17:35
TweakingDayepiphany would be your hippy aunts child?17:35
dave_TweakingDay: lmao17:36
cant_logingenii-around.. ~/.DCOPserver_MEDION_0.. no such file or directory17:36
delicowalfmao17:36
TweakingDaydon't lmao at me. tell me what to do with this thing!17:36
delicowaseriously for me to really enjoy fast surfing I have to stick to links for now17:36
dave_TweakingDay: i told u but you refused to do it lol17:36
genii-aroundcant_login: OK, thats fine then. Also it says at that log that HAL is not running (repeated endlessly)17:36
delicowahopefully ther would be a fix soon17:36
cant_loginyeah.. i saw that too17:37
dave_delicowa: a lot of people have had this problem with other distributions too17:37
TweakingDayff3 works really well for surfing itself for me.17:37
dave_delicowa: try disabling ipv6 support17:37
genii-aroundcant_login: Try to issue:    sudo /etc/init.d/hal  start17:37
cant_loginis it possible to restart hal17:37
TweakingDayand with tracemonkey coming in next ver it's gonna fly17:37
cant_loginok.. will try17:37
delicowaok dave_ what then was the way out for then17:37
delicowasorry(typo) I meant them not then17:37
cant_loginsays /usr/sbin/hald already running17:38
cant_logini'll try restart17:38
genii-aroundcant_login: Try to issue:    sudo /etc/init.d/hal  restart17:38
TweakingDayok i'm gonna try something brb17:38
genii-aroundhehe17:38
delicowaon firefox?17:38
cant_loginno luck.. same thing genii-around17:38
cant_loginrestarted without errors.. still can't login though17:38
cant_loginafk17:39
genii-aroundcant_login: Does: ps ax | grep hald                   indicate that it is really running?17:40
boubouplop all17:41
kkathmanWhere are the power settings for kubuntu now??17:44
cant_loginyes genii-around.. it brings up 7 4 digit numbers17:45
* technikk `bro veche svima :)17:45
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TweakingDayBWAHAHA17:46
TweakingDayit's ALIVE!!17:46
genii-aroundcant_login: OK, so it actually is running then.17:46
dave_TweakingDay: did u get it!?17:46
TweakingDaygenii-around: thank you for the executable thing.17:46
TweakingDaydave_: yes. thank you for the moral support.17:47
genii-aroundTweakingDay: np17:47
TweakingDayjussi01: ty for all too17:47
creativeany1 can help me pls ? http://pastebin.com/m76fc9cac17:47
dave_TweakingDay: np man17:47
TweakingDaynow all of a sudden i see strange effects17:47
TweakingDayha17:47
jussi01TweakingDay: :)17:47
TweakingDayok i gotta tell you. their installer:17:48
TweakingDayit's hilarious17:48
genii-aroundcant_login: Does:   ls /var/run/xauth/                           show anything?17:48
dave_oh i know17:48
TweakingDay1. "unable to find kernel interface on FTP, the installer will have to compile one"17:48
TweakingDayeeehh ok dude, whatever you say...17:48
TweakingDay2. "unable to verify something-lib.go.something. assuming succesfull installation"17:49
cant_loginls /var/run/xauth/ = A:0-P1EZwa17:49
dave_TweakingDay: can't say that I've ever had that happen17:49
cant_loginis that the lock?17:50
genii-aroundcant_login: OK.  So:     sudo rm /var/run/xauth/*17:50
genii-aroundcant_login: One of them, yes17:50
cant_loginthat never got unlocked.. because it cut off while in a tty session17:50
genii-aroundcant_login: Exactly, yes17:51
genii-aroundWork requires me. Returning shortly17:51
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cant_logindidn't work genii-around.. it was removed, but got recreated when i attempted to login17:53
Coggzmy xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.0417:55
TweakingDayumm a small q: how to disable the beeps in tty?17:55
delicowapresently iam arguing with a friend on windows and he says there is a way to spread vis=rus on Linux as wide as on windows...which I serious ly do not believ...Does this mean I am ignorant or that I actually know how strong the linux kernel and community is to the vulnerebility of a virus?17:56
dave_TweakingDay: unplug your speakers17:56
Coggzuum17:56
dave_lmao17:56
TweakingDaysystem speaker dave, system speaker17:56
dave_TweakingDay: open case and unplug man...simple as that17:56
TweakingDaydelicowa: does your friend actually claim that linux is as vuln, as windows?17:57
dave_TweakingDay: mute the pcspeaker channel in kmix17:57
delicowawell I believe gates has bought him so much he doesn't wanna accept the fact17:57
TweakingDaydelicowa: i'm afraid there's only one thing left to do. they can no longer be your friend.17:57
delicowayup.. I think so17:58
TweakingDaythis is coming from someone with 0.003 experience in linux and17:58
TweakingDaypretty damn good knowledge of win17:58
dave_delicowa: linux is not as vulnerable to viruses and spyware as windows is17:58
Coggzany ideas about xorg17:58
TweakingDaythat much i know17:58
dave_delicowa:  there's only a few for linux out there and second of all you'd have to hand over your root password for them to even work17:58
TweakingDayi thin the root pass is empty by default now?17:59
TweakingDayhow does this thing work17:59
Pici!sudo17:59
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)17:59
dave_TweakingDay:  lmao...i don't think so bro17:59
jhutchins_wkdelicowa: It's theoretically possible to write a virus that works on Linux machines, but it's much more difficult for it to propagate because there are inherent defaults in favor of security.17:59
PiciTweakingDay: The root password is locked, not empty.17:59
delicowawe also argued on the fact that the ease of windows is better than that of linux ..but I tried to tell him that it was better to know what is going on under a button click (which is easier on linux because o fhte availability of the source).the on windows which is closed source17:59
TweakingDayah. that's better.17:59
dave_TweakingDay: its your password you use to login the system just using su iinstead18:00
jhutchins_wkdelicowa: A windows virus can be propagated on a linux host by windows systems accessing it.  A linux mail server can pass infected mail without being affected itself.18:00
TweakingDaytechnically if win was produced by someone you trust you don't have to sucrifice ease for knowledge18:00
Coggzmy xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.0418:00
delicowa jhutchins_wk:  yup I know that much which was once of the points I porved to him18:00
TweakingDayand not all people are technically inclided18:00
jhutchins_wkThe first documente worm was written (&run) on a unix system though.18:00
TweakingDayinclined18:00
TweakingDaywindows IS however much easier.18:01
dave_TweakingDay: lol...i was about to say i've never been technically "inclided" before18:01
delicowabut I suppose the openness of sources makes it pretty diifficult to spread the a real virus18:01
TweakingDaykmix is not running. what is wrong with this thign!18:01
TweakingDaythe open source is supposed to make it more secure18:01
dave_TweakingDay: Alt+F2 kmix and enter18:01
luca_hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????18:01
TweakingDaythe design whether open or closed it what make the security18:01
delicowacos I suppose a software is only legally accepted on linus if the source is readilly available from the programmer18:01
TweakingDayda18:02
luca_hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????18:02
TweakingDaydave_: no i know, it jus bounces and that's it18:02
jhutchins_wkTweakingDay: Windows is somewhat easier, but it's also a big target, as there are a LOT of windows systems available both for development and targets.18:02
luca_hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????18:02
TweakingDayjhutchins_wk: no question about that18:02
luca_hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????18:02
dave_TweakingDay: that's what you get for loading that 8.10 crap18:02
jhutchins_wkTweakingDay: There are a lot more unsophisticated users running Windows as well.18:02
Coggz!italian18:02
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:02
delicowaso in that case do you suppose if linux dominates the world we would have the same virus problems18:03
dave_!venezualan18:03
TweakingDayi'm new at this dave_ no idea crap or not18:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about venezualan18:03
luca_thanks!!!!18:03
Coggzmy xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.0418:03
TweakingDayjhutchins_wk: but you can't give linux to grandma18:03
jhutchins_wkdelicowa: It's easier to secure linux, but yes.18:03
jhutchins_wkTweakingDay: I can't (both mine are dead anyway) but I know people who have done that and similar things.18:03
dave_TweakingDay: lmao....nope you sure as hell can't18:03
delicowayeah I sgree given the fact that the ping of death hole was patched within 24hours of discovery but took ages on windows18:03
TweakingDaybasically, the default is win, the default user is not sophisticated coupled with bad design means problems.18:04
jhutchins_wkTweakingDay: (I've got a 90+ year-old grandmother of a friend who is developing a hyperlinked family history.)18:04
dave_TweakingDay: i gave my grandma her first computer and laughed when she couldn't figure out how to turn it on18:04
delicowanext topic18:04
TweakingDayjhutchins_wk: that's cool18:04
TweakingDaydave18:04
TweakingDayyou're just wrong18:04
TweakingDaybut you know that18:04
TweakingDay:P18:04
dave_TweakingDay: oh i know dude...i know18:04
delicowaI kinda have problems connecting to a windows vista adhoc netwpork...It sees it but it doesn't connect18:05
TweakingDayhow them pills working18:05
TweakingDayvista. *shudders*18:05
dave_TweakingDay: what pills?18:05
TweakingDayright.18:05
cant_logingenii-around.. do you have any other ideas?18:05
jhutchins_wkdelicowa: That would probably be a question for ##windows18:05
dave_TweakingDay: yeah i took vista off my laptop cause it was so terrible18:05
dave_TweakingDay: wrong18:06
jhutchins_wkOk, back to topic.18:06
TweakingDaykmix :\18:06
delicowaok really in my class our lecturers use windows (most of them vista) so I need to connect to get most of my work done...and I mus t admit it I really really hate windows18:06
TweakingDayyour lecturers fall into the unsophisticated category.18:06
TweakingDaymine too though :\18:07
TweakingDayseriously, maybe this 8.10 wasn't a good idea18:07
TweakingDayi don't wannna d/l another distro...whaaa18:07
dave_delicowa: if your connecting via html you should be ok...you have java and flash18:07
villoni!fr18:07
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr18:07
dave_TweakingDay: download kubuntu 8.04 LTS dude18:07
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TweakingDayi don't wannnaaaaaa18:08
delicowayup I agree (I school in nigeria.)and University of ilorin.Because of some complex issues though I am looking for an online degree.18:08
dave_TweakingDay: well then quit b!tching about all your broke @$$ shizz lol18:08
dave_you went for the new release i told you bro18:08
TweakingDaydave_: i won't and you can't make me!18:08
TweakingDayi have no idea in this18:08
delicowa@dave how do I connect via html(internet you mean?)18:08
TweakingDayi thin dave18:09
dave_TweakingDay: it's ok i'll just steal your ram...we'll see how far you get with that18:09
TweakingDayit's soldered in18:09
TweakingDaygood luck with that18:09
dave_delicowa: i'm talking about doing connecting to do school work online18:09
delicowawhat I really need is info on how to connect to an ad-hoc network setup on windows18:09
dave_TweakingDay: ummmm RAM is not soldered into the motherboard bro18:09
dave_brb18:09
TweakingDayusually it's not18:09
TweakingDaydelicowa: i don't know about linux, but in win there are verious protocols.18:10
TweakingDayfind out which one is in use, and make sure you can use it too.18:10
TweakingDayvarious*18:10
dave_TweakingDay: so i take it you soldered them in huh?  riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight,....likely story18:10
TweakingDayit was an accident18:11
delicowaok basic thing our lecturers are either too poor or too  iliterate to put tests online and there is no functional wireless network at school        (trust me it is really a crap school but I got no choice)18:11
dave_TweakingDay: i soldered my OS in too...Kubuntu's not coming off this sucker...yerp....no way18:11
TweakingDaylol18:11
delicowabut one thing I like though when I create new networks on linux windows os can't see then and they can't see my bluetooth netwoks18:12
TweakingDaystealthy18:12
TweakingDayyou use that to chear?18:12
TweakingDay:P18:13
dave_TweakingDay: but on the online disclaimer for Kubuntu 8.10 it says: "This OS is not solderable" so good luck to you man...I think you need the LTS then you'd be as cool as me18:13
TweakingDayoh man i can never be as cool as YOU18:13
delicowa"solder an os?"I am lost18:13
TweakingDaylol. look what you've done.18:13
dave_TweakingDay: no...if i were only as cool as u...18:13
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delicowa:-(how do you solder an os18:13
dave_delicowa: you can't i we were kidding18:14
TweakingDayok another simple question. what are all the colors for the nicknames in konvers. i get it blue boy pink girl (how does it know) but i've seen other...18:14
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dave_TweakingDay: what color is mine?18:14
TweakingDayyou're green18:15
dave_TweakingDay: your pink lmao18:15
dave_no lie18:15
TweakingDayno, blue18:15
TweakingDayi'm not pink18:15
dave_TweakingDay: dude i swear your pink on my end18:15
TweakingDayi tel you i'm not pink and most certainly have nothing to do with your end18:15
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TweakingDayis this an R channel?18:16
Guest69250whats an R channell18:16
Guest69250whats an R channel18:16
dave_TweakingDay: i'm sure it's supposed to be G rated lol18:16
dave_TweakingDay: man we need to quit we are confusing the hell out of folks18:16
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TweakingDayGuest69250: there are ratings to movies for example. like G is family and R is adult.18:16
TweakingDayyeah..18:17
Guest69250ok i get it18:17
Coggzmy xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.0418:17
Guest69250is there any c programmer in here18:18
TweakingDayCoggz for example appears red or brown. i guess it's the people who are havn't set gender.18:18
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Guest69250i have a question i would like to get answers to18:18
TweakingDayspecific to kubuntu?18:19
Coggz?18:19
Guest69250is there any c programmer in here.I have some questions i would like to get answers to18:19
TweakingDaydave_: you're all touting 8.04. here, help the dude.18:19
CoggzTweakingDay: What do you mean?18:19
TweakingDayCoggz: nvn, i was just using your nick as an example.18:20
Coggzok18:20
CoggzTweakingDay: any chance of help?18:20
TweakingDaysure, but not from me. i'm very new to this.18:20
dave_i don't remember the command18:21
CoggzTweakingDay: ok,18:21
Coggzin that case, please can someone help me with xorg...\18:21
TweakingDayi suggest you wait for a bit. seems that the people come in waves.18:22
dave_brb18:22
TweakingDayin the mean time dave_ here has gone to bring you cookies18:22
dave_TweakingDay: who's bringing me cookies?18:24
delicowaDAVE_18:24
cant_loginlaptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password then goes right back to the login window again. no problems logging into a tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user has same results.  Please help18:24
TweakingDaydave_: you are, for Coggz18:25
Coggzhiya dave_18:25
TweakingDaylol18:25
dave_*dave_ throws cookies*18:25
dave_lol18:26
delicowayeah one last thing?? when I installed kdm at first the login window was a bit glossy and nice but now it looks old and rageddy like a windows 98 login windows any help on hoe I can restore it?18:26
delicowa:'(18:26
TweakingDayok. next on the to do list. how can i make sure the system is using frequency throttling on the CPU?18:26
Coggz*yay*18:26
Coggzdave_: anyhow...18:26
dave_delicowa: yes if you just reload kubuntu it will go back to how it was before18:26
dave_lol18:26
delicowahow do I reload it18:27
delicoware install you mean?18:27
dave_delicowa: by reinstalling kubuntu18:27
CoggzTweakingDay:18:27
dave_delicowa: yes, it was supposed to be a joke18:27
Coggzoops18:27
dave_brb18:27
delicowaok . so I should remove it then reinstall it.. huh?18:27
Coggzdave_ do you know anything about xorg18:27
TweakingDaydelicowa: from what i've seen so far18:29
TweakingDayabout everything can be resolved without that18:29
TweakingDaythe caveat is that you have to dig and find out how to18:30
dave_Coggz: no don't reinstall18:30
dave_coggz: do you know what your native display rez is?18:30
dave_TweakingDay: are you using your Thesaurus program over there to dig up these "fancy" words?18:31
Coggzdave_: Yes, it is either 1280x800 or 1024x768, lol i wouldn't reinstall to fix...18:31
legodude_which bittorrent client?18:32
dave_coggz: go into the Dolphin file manager18:32
dave_coggz: in the address bar type /etc/X1118:33
TweakingDaythis dolphin is ugly18:33
TweakingDaysomewhere down the todo is to replace it18:33
Coggzya18:33
Coggzi know about xorg.conf18:33
dave_coggz: it won't let you change the display rez in there either?18:33
jhutchins_wkxorg.conf mostly just makes resolutions available to the dm.18:34
delicowaim out SEE ya later18:34
jhutchins_wkCoggz: There's a utility called krandrtray that will let you pick resolutions.18:35
Coggzyes18:36
Coggzi use grandr dave_18:36
Coggzfor multiple monitors18:36
dave_you are using the same display rez for all monitors right?18:37
Coggzi must tell you, im on ubuntu, but i have been using both for a few years so i can cross over18:37
Coggzyes18:37
Coggzhmm, there is a xorg update, maybe i can try that18:39
TweakingDayhow can i tell what's the current cpu freqency?18:39
Coggznot sure18:42
stdinTweakingDay: several ways, use the Guidance Power Manager applet. "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'cpu MHz'" or "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"18:42
thomas__hallo18:43
thomas__was ist18:44
Coggz!de18:44
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:44
zir-rthi18:44
Coggzhi18:44
Coggzdave_? you still about18:45
thomas__cheten macht spass18:45
TweakingDaystdin: thanks18:45
thomas__ich arbeite mein pc18:45
profoX`first of all: whyyy did is kde 3 gone in 8.10 :( and.. umm.. can someone tell me how i should get kopete to connect to the msn protocol in kubuntu 8.10 ?18:45
profoX`-did *18:46
Captain_Haddockhey! I already have a package installed via apt and want to test a newer version of it without affecting the existing installation. If I download the source code and compile it in my home directory, will it affect my existing installation of the said package?18:46
zir-rtI have a problem with my audio, I was playing a flash video in firefox and then after the video the next video had no audio, and now I can't reproduce sound from my pc, nor mplayer, amarok, amplayer says /dev/dsp busy.18:46
zir-rtHow can I know which program is using the /dev/dsp?18:46
profoX`Captain_Haddock: it won't, it will only conflict if you install it (to the same location)18:46
thomas__mein hund geht gut18:46
Captain_Haddockok, thanks18:46
Captain_Haddock!de thomas__18:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about de thomas__18:47
profoX`Captain_Haddock: but with most makefiles you can use ./configure --prefix=/home/$USER/blaat18:47
profoX`to install there18:47
Captain_Haddock!de18:47
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:47
profoX`zir-rt: try lsof|grep /dev/dsp18:47
profoX`but please, can someone help me with all my kde 4 issues18:47
stdin"fuser /dev/dsp"18:47
profoX`which are a lot of them!18:47
CoggzCaptain_Haddock - you woulnd't be Johnathan Haddock?18:47
thomas__nur was18:48
Captain_HaddockCoggz: No, I'm Captain "Billions of Blue Blistering Barnacles" Haddock.18:48
Captain_HaddockSorry to disappoint :)18:48
Captain_HaddockprofoX`: I see - cheers18:48
* Captain_Haddock tries it out18:48
CoggzCaptain_Haddock: aah, i see18:49
Captain_HaddockArchibald is my first name18:49
zir-rtthanks profoX`and stdin, I have performed bith lsof|grep /dev/dsp and fuser /dev/dsp but mplayer can't still reproduce sound. It says [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1321:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy18:49
* Captain_Haddock had to search for that :(18:49
Captain_HaddockI'm growing old18:49
stdinzir-rt: that's /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p not /dev/dsp18:50
profoX`so, why is KDE 3 gone/unsupported in 8.10? can't find the answer on the FAQ18:50
zir-rtstdin: before was the /dev/dsp :)18:50
stdinusually though, /dev/snd/pcm* can be opened by more than one app at a time18:50
TweakingDayanother quick q: where can i see the temp of the cpu and other components like MB?18:50
stdinthat's the whole point of ALSA18:50
Coggzmy xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.0418:50
Captain_HaddockTweakingDay: system monitor18:51
profoX`stdin: nyea, but sometimes there's some awkward stuff going on18:51
stdinTweakingDay: search in adept for "sensors"18:51
CoggzTweakingDay: gkrellm18:51
zir-rtthis ws the message AL lib: oss.c:179: Could not open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy18:51
TweakingDaystdin, i did but the app shows blank window :\18:52
TweakingDayCoggz, will try ty18:52
stdin"apt-cache search sensors" is another way18:52
zir-rtThat is odd, lsof says it is okular: okular    7125     christ   77u      CHR      116,8               13241 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p18:53
TweakingDayi mean the xsensors program i was able to find and install shows nothing....18:53
CoggzCaptain_Haddock: any ideas about xorg18:54
Captain_HaddockCoggz: does xvidtune help?18:55
zir-rthmm, now I have closed okular and the sound work again! thanks stdin and profoX`!18:55
profoX`ye.. i have experienced the same weird issues18:56
profoX`with sound18:56
stdinodd that okualr would open the sound device...18:56
profoX`actually, i have experienced lots of issues with kubuntu 8.10 :(18:56
profoX`wish i didn't decide to finally upgrade18:56
profoX`stdin: maybe knotify or something like that18:56
CoggzCaptain_Haddock: i will try, but i cant atm, as it is updating with apt18:56
zir-rtIt was only a pdf..18:56
Captain_Haddockat least you didn't upgrade 3 machines the day of release and regret it :)18:57
stdinprofoX`: but ps would show knotify4 as the process18:57
Coggz?18:57
Coggzwhy regret?18:57
Captain_HaddockCoggz: ok... your gfx card detected ok?18:57
Captain_HaddockCoggz: I'm not too happy with KDE 4.1.. I like it fine.. but it's got too many niggles18:58
Coggzit was all fine. then i tried to change my virtual screen size in xorg.conf... it now recognises nothing and locks me to either 640x480 or 800x60018:58
Captain_HaddockI see... didn't back up xorg.conf eh?18:59
Coggzintel 915GM, with dell 15" LVDS18:59
Coggzhmm, it did create a backup.18:59
profoX`stdin: well, i dont know.. i only know that i experienced the same problem also back on kde3 with a few apps sometimes.. ktorrent and kmix most of the time..19:00
profoX`never researched it19:00
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TweakingDayCoggz, gkrellm worked like a charm. thanks.19:01
Captain_HaddockprofoX`: "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`.." <-- would this screw things up?19:01
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Captain_Haddock^ is in my home directory19:02
CoggzTweakingDay: i know, its definately my favorite applet19:02
profoX`Captain_Haddock: i don't know :)19:02
Captain_HaddockprofoX`: aww :( heh19:02
profoX`i would GUESS not, but.. you never know19:02
Captain_Haddockthe kde4-config looks very suspicious19:03
profoX`i also haven't worked with cmake and kde4-config yet19:03
Coggzi use it to monitor my tablet pc which has no fans :) (60 oC+)19:03
* Captain_Haddock uses System monitor.. with pretty graphs and stuff19:03
Captain_Haddockaka ksysguard IIRC19:03
stdinCaptain_Haddock: kde4-config comes in kdelibs-bin19:03
Captain_Haddockstdin: yep, I don't want the app to overwrite my existing installation.. want it to be contained in my home directory19:04
Captain_Haddockso the kde4-config looks a little scary :]19:04
stdinthen you want to use "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/me/<somedir> ../"19:05
stdinusing "kde4-config --prefix" will overwrite the packages19:05
Captain_Haddockaha!19:05
Captain_Haddockthanks dude19:05
Captain_Haddockmaybe I should set up a virtual machine and try all this stuff out19:06
Captain_Haddockis Xen stable and user friendly?19:07
stdinI'd guess it's stable, but probably not user friendly19:08
stdin!xen19:08
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen19:08
stdinit's more for professionals with big servers19:08
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Mayhello19:10
Maysomeone there19:11
TweakingDayhey may19:11
anubisHello19:11
anubisAny Linux DJs in the house?19:12
Coggzanubis: not really, but done some shoutcasting...19:12
anubisWas wondering what Karaoke or decent DJ software is out there.19:12
anubisGetting sick of Windoze19:13
anubisIf I could find DJ/Karaoke software then I could completely get rid of windoze19:13
kkathmanHas anyone checked into why Konqueror seems to be so slow in loading/displaying pages compared to say, Firefox/Opera ?19:14
cant_logingenii-around are you still here?19:14
kkathmanAlso, Konqueror doesnt seem to work with Flash at all?19:14
anubisI would like to run a program called SamParty DJ under linux.  (with wine I suppose) but that was a disaster19:15
anubisThis PC is running 100% linux (Kubuntu 8.10)19:16
sd32!restricted drivers19:16
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:16
kkathmananubis:  if its not running under wine, guess you'd need to find a Linux alternative?19:16
anubisUnfortunately19:16
cant_loginanubis.. install a virtual machine19:16
anubisVM ware?19:16
cant_loginsay.. virtualbox19:16
anubisOh, ok.19:17
sd32how do i run restricted drivers?19:17
quark_bye bye19:17
kkathmananubis:  yes was going to suggest VM or...check sourceforge.net19:17
cant_loginyou still need a windows cd & need to go thru the windows installation, but it will run19:17
anubisVM is $189 bucks19:17
sd32!video19:17
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications19:17
sd32!drivers19:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers19:17
kkathmansd32:  which driver are you looking for19:17
sd32kkathman:nvidia19:18
kkathman!nvidia19:18
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:18
fridyhi all19:18
ghostcube__hi folks got a problem i followed the update howo and the adept updater tool killed itself and now i cant bring it up again19:18
ghostcube__any needful ideas for me19:19
OxDeadC0deAnyone know how to speed up networking in lin? In win I get 40+kbps average on all bt transfers, in linux I'm lucky if I break 10kbps, doesn't matter time of day or what torrent. I disabled ipv6, port forward is all good, using the same client as in windows (uTorrent) with the same settings and torrents (soft link to settings folder)19:19
fridydoes anybody know what happened to the great tool kio-fish in kubuntu intrepid?19:19
Captain_Haddocksd32: on 8.10 look for "Hardware drivers" in KMenu19:19
Captain_Haddockthat should load "jockey"19:19
Captain_Haddock!jockey19:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jockey19:19
OxDeadC0dejockey-kde for kde, jockey-gtk for gnome19:19
sd32Captain_Haddock: thanks that what i was looknig for19:20
Captain_HaddockOxDeadC0de: on only bt transfers?19:20
OxDeadC0decaptain_haddock regular transfers are also slow, winxp gets around 750kbps, lin ~40019:20
TweakingDayghostcube__, in what environment are you now?19:20
Captain_Haddockstdin: thanks - any ideas about virtualbox?19:20
OxDeadC0dealso I'm using ndiswrapper + windows version of b43 drivers to connect to my network19:21
Coggzb43!!19:21
OxDeadC0dei get even worse performance with the native b43 drivers, which is why I use ndis19:21
Coggzhmm19:21
ghostcube__TweakingDay: ok iam in kde3 and tried to upgrade iam now to do dpkg --configure -a'19:21
Coggzon 8.04 OxDeadC0de19:21
OxDeadC0de8.1019:22
ghostcube__cause thats all that i can start and it seems to finish it i hope it will do the trick any other ideas if this fails19:22
Coggzhmm, im on 8.04 and it is good19:22
OxDeadC0dei used 8.04, had this "problem" there too, maybe it's ndis19:22
TweakingDayoh. sorry don't know then. i guess it's kinda early for me.19:22
sd32great..The application KMix (kmix) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).19:22
OxDeadC0debut b43 for me would actually seem faster - but in practice it would scale the connection speed a little to often creating a lot of "hickups" as it scaled the speed19:23
fridydoes anybody know, if there's a replacement of fish:// in kubuntu intrepid? - I really miss this great tool!19:23
Captain_HaddockOxDeadC0de: when I had a similar problem I had to tweak my ktorrent settings... but it's probably not related to your issue as my http downloads were quite fine.19:24
Captain_Haddockfridy: what did it do in 8.04?19:24
OxDeadC0decaptain_haddock probably not since I'm using uTorrent via wine anyway - to share downloads with windows so I can keep them going when I switch between os's19:24
oniovous etes tous des daubes19:24
Captain_HaddockI see19:25
Captain_Haddock!fr19:25
kabotagehi, how do i fix this, theres a white line in every window i open. and it actually gives me a blank screen and then its stucks up. im using intrepid19:25
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:25
sd32Captain_Haddock: any fix for a kmix crash?19:25
OxDeadC0deok well, I'll try b43 again, maybe they've improved the driver since I last tried... :/19:25
Captain_Haddocksd32: report bug and restart kmix? :)19:26
sd32sd32: how do i restart it?19:26
fridyCaptain_Harddock: it was a graphical frontend for scp. For example you could open/save/edit your files on a remote ssh server19:26
profoX`soooo..19:26
profoX`knode doesnt work19:26
profoX`:p19:26
fridyfor example with quanta plus19:26
Captain_Haddockah, sounds nifty19:26
profoX`why.19:26
profoX`how to fix :p19:26
profoX`it doesn't want to connect to my newsgroup19:27
sd32it used to work now it s broke..lol19:27
Captain_Haddocksd32: click on kmenu and type what you're searching for in the "search" box :)19:27
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sd32Captain_Haddock: ok thanks19:27
sd32!guess i might have to use envyng19:28
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:28
fridyit was really nifty. much more comfortable like vim, especially if you'd like to open more than one file the same time19:28
anubisDoes Amarok play WMA files?19:29
stdinCaptain_Haddock: virtual box is quite good, probably the easiest to setup19:29
sd32how does a  sound driver crash a video driver program..?????19:29
Captain_Haddockfridy: perhaps it was some other app adding the plugin?19:29
anubisDo you still need to install Windows under virtualbox?19:30
anubisMaybe I could use OSX19:30
Captain_Haddockanubis: djplay - A DJ application for Linux19:30
anubisThanks Captain19:30
anubisI also need to play karaoke files ie. mp3+g zips19:30
Captain_Haddockstdin: cheers, I'll give it a shot then19:30
anubisOtherwise this is kinda useless to me unfortunately.19:31
anubisAnd I would like to completely get rid of windows19:31
stdinyou can't install OSX in VitrualBox. it's an x86 emulator, and installing OSX on anything but a Mac is illegal according to Apple19:31
Captain_Haddock"pykaraoke - free CDG/MIDI/MPEG karaoke player"19:31
anubisThere is a mac clone company out there.19:31
anubispykaraoke sucks19:31
Captain_Haddockheh19:31
anubisIt's a pain in the arse to setup19:31
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fridyCaptain_Haddock: I think there was a packet called kio-fish, but it isn't there anymore19:32
sd32ahhh... I have to restart to enable the drivers19:32
stdinthere are Mac emulator out there, but actually using the to run Mac OSX is probably illegal ;)19:32
anubisIt's not.  I checked19:32
anubisI guess there aren't a lot of Linux DJ's out there yet.19:33
choppyanubis: i knew one.19:34
choppyHe was a pretty bastard.19:34
anubisPretty?   LOL19:34
Captain_Haddockfridy: actually dude, I just tried it and it worked fine here - 8.1019:34
Captain_Haddock:P19:35
Captain_Haddockfridy: search for konqueror in adept and install all the plugin packages maybe19:35
Captain_Haddockthat's a nifty tool, as you say19:36
fridyyes it is ;)19:36
kabotagehow do you get  cpu info on konsole??19:37
genii-around/back19:37
genii-aroundbah19:37
Captain_Haddockkabotage: sudo lshw19:37
choppykoobage> in /proc ?19:38
fridyjust recognized that it works with dolphin and konqueror, but unfortunatelly not with quanta plus19:38
genii-aroundanubis: There is Basilisk II  but it emulates only the Motorola 68K series (you can run up to MacOS 8.6)19:38
choppycat the file19:38
kabotageCaptain_Haddock: thanks19:39
reedhello19:40
choppyhello reed19:41
fridyhi reed19:41
Captain_Haddockfridy: too bad.. I hear that there's a new dev IDE coming in 4.219:41
Captain_Haddockkdevelop IIRC19:41
reeddid anybody notice that on 8.10 network starts after user has logged in?19:41
reedI can't find a way to force that network starts during boot19:41
cant_loginreed.. install sysv.rc.conf & make sure that networking is enabled during boot19:42
anubisThaks genii-around19:42
anubisThanks, even19:42
fridyCaptain_Haddock: a new IDE? do you have some more information? quanta isn't ported to kde 4.~yet19:42
genii-aroundanubis: np19:43
reedcant_login: I'm not sure I can parse your suggestion... networkmanager is started at boot19:43
Captain_Haddockfridy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDevelop (not new apparently .. rewritten from scratch for 4.2 though)19:43
reedcant_login: in /etc/rc2.d/ there is S28NetworkManager19:45
* Captain_Haddock has got to go; my thanks to all helping hands :)19:45
reedmaybe I should add that I'm using a wifi network :)19:46
fridyCaptain_Haddock: thanks! just reading19:46
cant_loginnot network manager.. networking19:47
user__hey i download the kubuntu vmare how do i access the root dictionary19:47
reedcant_login: I see your point19:47
cant_logini'm not sure if it will do what you want.. it's just an idea19:48
cant_loginit's a nice little program anyway19:48
cant_loginsysv.rc.conf.. system service config19:48
reedcant_login: ok, I know how to manage init, I'm an old *nix user..19:48
reedthese new kthings are too modern :)19:49
reedtoo difficult to understand :)19:49
cant_loginit's actually a console program19:49
smartassЙоханга!19:49
genii-aroundcant_login: I'm back and forth to the computer right now. Manage yet to start X ?19:49
cant_loginnope genii-around.. still no luck.. i've posted a bug on launchpad19:49
reedcant_login: I know, will revert configuring the network by hand the19:49
reedthen19:49
user__i just download the kubuntu  for vmare ware   how do i login has root not just a user19:50
reedwhere can I file a bug report for kubuntu? I think this is a bug19:50
cant_loginactually let me rephrase that.. if i boot into recovery mode.. drop to root shell.. and startx.. then i can login19:50
cant_loginif i drop to root shell and kdm.. i get the same loop19:50
genii-aroundcant_login: OK. Unfortunately I won't be able to devote much time for it today, work needs me often this afternoon19:50
cant_loginno problem.. thanks for all the help anyway19:50
sd32how do I adjust my refresh rates in my monitor using the restricted drivers if  the refresh rates are wrong?19:50
genii-aroundcant_login: You might want to look in /var/run     for kdm stuff, I think it has there something as well19:51
cant_loginalright19:51
sd32!compiz19:52
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion19:52
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genii-aroundcant_login: Possibly to: sudo rm /var/run/kdm.pid19:55
anubisIf anyone has any ideas for running Karaoke (mp3+g) under linux, please let me know.19:56
anubisI would be most grateful.19:56
anubisCuz PYkaraoke blowz19:56
genii-aroundanubis: I think kmid has karaoke support19:58
genii-around!info kmid19:58
ubottuPackage kmid does not exist in intrepid19:58
genii-aroundHm19:58
genii-aroundNo kooka, no kmid ... :)19:59
helge_I have Kubuntu Intrepid 64 bit and when I start Kdenlive it just cloese immediately. No error messages... What to do?20:00
helge_closes20:01
trappisthelge_: I'm not at my intrepid box right now, but I had that too, and I think I fixed it but I don't remember how - I think I was missing a package20:02
helge_Ok, I can look around20:02
helge_thanks20:02
cant_logingenii-around, removed kdm.pid with no luck20:02
trappisthelge_: try running it from the command line and see if you get an error there20:02
genii-aroundanubis: Perhaps xmms2-plugin-karaoke20:02
helge_good idea20:02
genii-aroundcant_login: OK20:02
cant_logindoes the fact that i can startx froma root shell prompt from the recovery menu help at all20:02
sd32wow the window expolison in desktop effects is cool20:03
helge_strange, Kdenlive started from Alt+F2, looks ok so far (20 sec)20:03
cant_loginis there a way to force a reinstall of kdm somehow20:03
cant_logini did try "apt-get install --reinstall kdm" but it told me it could not be downloaded20:04
OxDeadC0deok new question, anyone know why amarok4 won't show ogg vorbis files anymore?20:05
OxDeadC0deer, it plays them, but they don't show up in the collection list20:06
cant_loginis there a setting somewhere OxDeadC0de to exclude certain file types?20:06
genii-aroundcant_login: Does: ps ax | grep dbus-daemon                                   show that running?20:06
OxDeadC0decant_login nope20:07
cant_loginshows two different numbers genii-around20:07
cant_login"4521 ? Ss 0:00 //bin/dbus-daemon -fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session20:08
OxDeadC0deLOL I imported my old amarok collection into amarok4 and it crashed, and won't start anymore. whoopy! it also seems to be compiled with profiling support ><20:08
cengomerhabalar millet20:09
cengolinux bilen varmı aramızda20:09
genii-aroundcant_login: OK, thats fine then20:09
genii-around!tr | cengo20:10
ubottucengo: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.20:10
cant_logingenii-around, did you notice i said that i can login using the startx command if i drop to a root shell from the recovery mode?20:11
vicentehi20:11
genii-aroundcant_login: Yes, I caught that already :)20:11
cant_loginalright20:11
OxDeadC0decant_login what errors does xorg give off?20:11
genii-aroundcant_login: You might want to:   mv ~/.kde  ~/.oldkde20:12
vicentealguien abla español?20:12
cant_loginalright20:12
vicenteh20:12
OxDeadC0decant_login that will only help if you can get xorg to start far enough to launch kde even, if it's xorg itself failing you got bigger problems20:12
genii-aroundcant_login: This will mean losing the individual prog settings, etc but hopefully X would start20:12
OxDeadC0desorry I jumped in in the middle20:12
genii-around!es | vicente20:13
ubottuvicente: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:13
vicentea gracias20:13
cant_loginno luck genii-around20:13
shadowhywindhay all I am trying to remove a package from the console, and I keep getting a [: 64: Illegal number: remove    shift: 64: can't shift that many   error any ideas?20:13
smartass#quit20:14
smartassили как там?20:14
genii-around!ru | smartass20:14
ubottusmartass: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:14
OxDeadC0decant_login try sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.back - then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server20:14
cant_loginOxDeadC0de.. the nvidia splash screen shows before the login window appears.. and if i switch my xorg.conf file back to vesa driver i still have the same issues20:14
OxDeadC0decant_login how far does xorg get? Do you get all the way to kdm or gdm? (the login screen)?20:15
cant_loginyup.. already tried that, same issue only in lower resolution20:15
cant_logini get to the login screen.. enter password.. the screen switches like its about to show the kde loading window.. then drops back to login20:15
OxDeadC0decant_login try sudo rm ~/.Xauthority20:15
genii-aroundOxDeadC0de: His laptop battery died while on. My major suspect is pid or lockfiles of some sort. His x log shows hal not running, etc20:15
cant_logini might have tried that.. let me try again20:16
OxDeadC0degenii-around my laptop dies quite often while on and I don't get any major issues :| Maybe I'm just lucky20:17
cant_loginremoved .Xauthority OxDeadC0de.. nada20:17
genii-aroundcant_login: You have any files in /var/lock     directory?20:18
cant_login.ramfs20:18
OxDeadC0decant_login: so you can't sudo startx from a terminal either?20:19
cant_loginwell if i try that it gives me an error about an xserver already active.. someone said something about switching screens.. but i'm not sure how to do that20:20
OxDeadC0decant_login press control+alt+f1, login, type "sudo killall kdm", then try sudo startx20:21
muzziocant_login: do you want to run on more X?20:21
muzziocant_login: try X :120:22
cant_loginthat does start a gnome session20:22
OxDeadC0demuzzio he's having permissions issues, can't get past kdm20:22
muzziohum.20:22
genii-aroundmuzzio: No, he is trying to regain main X, not start new ones (yet)20:22
OxDeadC0deok cant_login closes out xorg (control+alt+backspace), remove ~/.Xauthority20:22
muzziogenii-around: yet, rsrsrsrs20:23
muzzio:P20:23
cant_login.Xauthority is already gone20:23
cant_loginwhen i tried to startx without sudo it gave me an error about not being able to create .Xauthority or something like that20:24
OxDeadC0decant_login and.. reboot, :/, also, check ls -lh /dev/nv* (You're using nvidia right?), make sure you have permissions to read/write to it (dunno how ubuntu controls that, video group or what, i personally did chmod a+rw /dev/nv* - which is insecure I hear)20:24
OxDeadC0decant_login great, we found the issue then, type "rm ~/.Xauthority" (if it fails that's okay), chown youruser:yourgroup ~/20:25
genii-aroundcant_login: Are you booted into Recovery or something? (like logged on as root or similar)20:25
cant_loginboth entries show crw-rw-rw20:25
cant_loginno.. not booted into recovery anymore20:25
OxDeadC0decant_login the issue is with .Xauthority, not nvidia like I thought there for a second20:25
cant_loginOxDeadC0de.. i did have a .Xauthority.. but i removed it the first time you suggested20:25
OxDeadC0decant_login the way we solved it before was resetting the permissions on your  home folder, make sure you have r/w permissions to it, and reboot20:25
genii-aroundcant_login: You may also want to: sudo rm -rf /tmp/*20:26
cant_loginalready removed /tmp/*.. will change permissions on the home folder & reboot.. will try20:26
OxDeadC0deI bet as soon as he reboots it will work ;)20:27
cant_loginsudo chmod -R 777 /home is the only permission command i know20:27
OxDeadC0decant_login sudo chmod u+rw /home/username20:27
cant_loginchown?? not sure about that one20:27
OxDeadC0dechown is change owner, synatax: chown user:group folder20:27
OxDeadC0desyntax*20:27
jonasbethi everyone20:27
jonasbetwhat are you doing?20:27
cant_loginrebooting...20:28
OxDeadC0degl!20:28
jonasbetare you having problems?20:28
jonasbetdoes anyone know how can i get new channel?20:28
jonasbetdoes ubuntu irc server conect to all irc channels?20:29
genii-aroundcant_login: Please, do NOT chmod 777 Anything!!!20:30
OxDeadC0dejonasbet: Ubuntu irc server is part of freenode, /list for a list of rooms, /join room-name to join a room20:30
jonasbetohh thanks20:30
PiciOxDeadC0de, jonasbet: /msg alis list *something*   would be a better way to look for a specific channel for 'something'20:30
jonasbetthat help me a lot20:30
cant_loginalright.. "sudo chmod u+rw /home/user" still didn't work after reboot.. was i supposed to chowner something?20:31
OxDeadC0deya and cant_login you with chmod it's easier to remember u, g, a (user, group, all) +- r/w/x (read, write, execute) (so u+rw is user+read write)20:31
OxDeadC0decant_login chown yourusername:yourgroup ~/* -R && chown yourusername:yourusergroup /home/yourusername (replace yourusername and yourusergroup with you username and group, group is probably the same as username)20:32
cant_loginwill try20:32
genii-aroundcant_login: If your username for instance is "george" then:    sudo chown -rh george:george /home/george20:32
cant_loginok.. OxDeadC0de "changing owndership of 'home/user' : Operation not permitted20:35
cant_logingenii-around "chown: invalid option -- 'r'"20:35
cant_loginthat's a r20:35
OxDeadC0decant_login sudo chown username:username /home/username -R20:35
OxDeadC0de-R for recursive (must be caps)20:36
cant_loginok.. rebooting...20:36
cant_logindo i need to reboot.. or can i just try to login?20:36
OxDeadC0delast time I debugged this exact issue the guy rebooted before it worked20:36
cant_loginok20:36
OxDeadC0decant_login but it won't hurt to try without rebooting20:36
cant_loginnoted.. already rebooting...20:37
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cant_loginno dice.. still loops back to login window20:38
OxDeadC0decant_login ls -la ~/ , do you see any files belonging to root?20:39
OxDeadC0deor not your user?20:39
benbloom_is there an easy way to select attatched sound devices in KDE3 or list devices locations?20:39
cant_loginnot that i can see on one screen.. how do i page?20:42
OxDeadC0deshift+page up20:42
cant_logineasy enough... one thing "drwxrwxrwx 58 root root 4096 2008-11-11 15:17 .."20:43
OxDeadC0dethat's normal :|20:43
cant_loginfigured such20:43
cant_logini see .. in every directory20:43
OxDeadC0dehmm, do sudo startx with root again (after sudo killall kdm), add a new user, see if you can login with the new user20:43
cant_loginalright.. i have added a new user already via tty and that didn't work20:44
cant_loginwant me to try via gnome?20:44
OxDeadC0decant_login please - and make sure it has all the permissions it needs (video and such)20:45
cant_loginalright20:45
cant_loginok.. i tried startx without sudo and it gave me a different error this time.. i should20:45
cant_login"sudo startx"20:46
OxDeadC0dewithout sudo what error did it give you?20:46
cant_login(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)20:46
cant_loginlast time it said something about creating .Xauthority20:47
OxDeadC0decant_login sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf , in the Module section is there anything like "Load "type1"" ?20:47
cant_loginyes20:48
OxDeadC0deif so, try commenting it (put # before it), and try again20:48
cant_loginLoad "type1"20:48
cant_loginnvidia splash flashed, got the X cursor, then dropped back to prompt20:50
cant_loginno errors though20:50
OxDeadC0deanyone know if it will hurt if i tell him to rm /var/tmp/kdecache-username ?20:51
cant_loginit's in a tmp folder.. i've probably already removed it20:51
cant_loginwoops..20:51
OxDeadC0deno answer.. i guess try mv /var/tmp/kdecache-usersname ~/kdecache-username20:52
OxDeadC0dewith sudo20:53
cant_loginyup.. i remember that, already removed it.. looks like it recreaded kdecache-root20:53
OxDeadC0dels -lh /var , is the tmp folder set to drwxrwxrwt ?20:53
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cant_loginyes it is OxDeadC0de20:54
OxDeadC0deoh, and from the kdm login menu (if it's not running because of killall kdm, switch to a console and run sudo kdm), can you change the session to gnome and login?20:54
sd32do i have to login as root to be able to save a display configuration?(saving as user fails to save configuration)20:54
OxDeadC0deor same thing20:54
cant_loginvar/lock also has those permissions20:55
benbloom_hate to interrupt but it sounds like this may be a while and my question is brief, Is there an easy way to select attatched sound devices in KDE3 or list devices locations?20:55
trappistsd32: yeah that's a system-wide config file, so mortal users can't muck with it20:55
ecento#ubuntu-ru.20:55
sd32trappist:  so i cant save a config?20:55
trappistbenbloom_: this is irc, always feel free to interrupt - if I understand your question right, try "asoundconf list"20:55
trappistsd32: not without root/sudo privileges20:56
sd32trappist: or i need to be root20:56
OxDeadC0desd32 you can, run the configuration program under sudo (example: sudo nvidia-settings)20:56
sd32trappist: ok thanks20:56
sd32OxDeadC0de:  ok thanks20:56
benbloom_trappist: I had interjected earlier to no avail. looked like cant_login is having a serious problem20:56
* cant_login does agree20:57
cant_loginat least this time everything is still there.. usually i can get in far enough to do ANYTHING20:57
OxDeadC0decant_login any luck with gnome?20:57
trappistbenbloom_: sometimes there's nobody looking who knows the answer to your question.  just try again in a few minutes :)20:57
cant_loginohh yeah.. should i try sudo startx?20:57
cant_logini think that will work20:58
OxDeadC0decant_login no, make sure kdm is running (sudo kdm), switch to kdm if it's already running (alt+left or right arrow key until you get to the right tty), hit the menu button, change the session to gnome20:58
OxDeadC0desee if you can login to gnome with your regular user20:58
cant_loginohhh.. no, that doesn't work20:59
cant_logintried that first20:59
OxDeadC0detry again, the .Xauthority problem before could have been mucking that up20:59
cant_loginnope.. default, kdm, gdm & failsafe all drop right back to the login window21:00
cant_logini notice console login is no longer there.. is that because i started kdm thru a prompt?21:01
OxDeadC0decould be, can you !paste ls -al /tmp please?21:02
OxDeadC0de!paste21:02
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:02
cant_logintypo, default, GNOME, KDE & failsafe21:02
benbloom_so that helps a little trappist, but I need to actually tell kubuntu to use the soundcard I prefer. I have SB and HDMI the SB is the one I need21:03
OxDeadC0decant_login or if you can't pastebin it, make sure .X11-unix and the file inside it both have permissions? (.X11-unix should be drwxrwxrwt and X0 sould be: srwxrwxrwx) Also check that /tmp/.ICE-unix  has drwxrwxrwt and the files inside that folder belong to your user21:04
trappistbenbloom_: asoundconf set-default-card <item from asoundconf list>21:04
cant_loginhow do i pipe output to a file?21:04
OxDeadC0dels -al > outputfile.txt21:04
cant_loginls -al /tmp > /home/user/file.txt21:04
trappistcant_login: your-command > some_file21:04
OxDeadC0delol everybody knows that one eh ;)21:05
trappistheh21:05
trappistthat is, unless you expect output on stderr21:05
OxDeadC0dethen it's like 1> or something isn't it? or is there an & in there21:05
OxDeadC0dedun remember all the piping stuff :P21:05
cant_logini wonder if i just found the issue.. "ls -al /tmp > /home/user/Desktop/file.txt" gives "ls: write error: No space left on device"21:06
OxDeadC0decant_login lol, well, that could be an issue ;)21:06
cant_loginand i did just move a large file from a media disk before the issue21:06
cant_loginit lost power on the way back home..21:06
trappistOxDeadC0de: 2>&1 will redirect stderr to stdout21:06
cant_loginlet me remove a .iso21:06
OxDeadC0detrappist ohh so that's how it goes! :D21:07
trappistor use &> to redirect stderr and stdout to a file21:07
maximilian-schrohi everbody. it might be a very dump questin but ijust couldnt figured it out. in my taskbar on kde 4.1 the sound applet closed but i dont know hot to relunch it? can anybody help me with this?21:07
trappistmaximilian-schro: kmix21:07
cant_loginBINGO!21:07
maximilian-schro:)21:07
trappistmaximilian-schro: should be able to launch it via alt-f221:07
maximilian-schroyes i know rhat. i just didnt now the right command21:08
benbloom_trappist: how do I configure that card? or apply the change to the system (still getting no sound)21:08
OxDeadC0degrats cant_login! Now just make sure you always have at least a few mb of space ;)21:08
maximilian-schrothanks :)21:08
cant_loginain't that something.. out of space on my /home partition21:08
maximilian-schrobut anyways. it closes x times a day. any clue way this could happen?21:08
trappistbenbloom_: should take effect immediately - if you're getting no sound try running alsamixer to adjust things like pcm, volume, master, etc.21:08
trappistmaximilian-schro: that's a tough one21:09
trappistit's probably crashing, but it's gonna be tough to find out why21:09
cant_loginawesome.. thanks everybody21:09
benbloom_already messed with alsamixer. no luck :(21:09
OxDeadC0detrappist: especially without it compiled with debugging symbols21:09
OxDeadC0decant_login glad we could help ^^21:09
trappistright, and I don't see a -dbg package for it21:10
maximilian-schroi am not doing anything special with it. it justs closes. and i didnt have any problems on kde 321:10
starenka'alo!21:10
trappistmaybe kdelibs5-dbg would do it21:10
OxDeadC0demaximillian-schro it could be one of a million issues, my only suggestion would be to try upgrading (I have backports enabled for kde 4.1.3 instead of 4.1.2 which shipped with intrepid, but fyi, backports are TOTALLY unsupported)21:11
trappistmaximilian-schro: also check launchpad.net for any known issues21:11
starenkaI've migrated my kubuntu installation to another hardrive recently. Everyhting works like usual, BUT i doesnt seem to hybernate at all. I just hybernate it and next time it starts the whole system from scratch (also there's no graphcal boot ). I thought it was because i forget to tell the system to use swap partition, but its enabled and the problem is still here. thanx for reading this essay21:12
maximilian-schrothanks., i will check launchpad first. maybe i will find something. i just changed from gnome to kde and have to figure out some more stuff :)21:12
trappistah, kdemultimedia-kde4-dbg is the one you want, I think21:13
genii-aroundback21:14
DarkSmokehey guys21:14
OxDeadC0deAll supporters in this channel remember: If they can't login to kde - but kdm starts, first ask for df -h, second ask them to remove ~/.Xauthority ;)21:14
DarkSmokei went to boot kubuntu today like usual21:14
benbloom_already messed with alsamixer, trappist. no luck :(. i feel like I remember some GUI utility that was already a part of KDE3.5 the first time I installed Kubuntu. which is how I got it workingt then. anyone know?21:14
DarkSmokebut it hang up21:14
DarkSmokei switched to vt1 and got this going up21:14
DarkSmoke16.812894] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 916454421:14
DarkSmoke[   16.812900] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 114556821:14
DarkSmoke:/21:14
genii-aroundcant_login: Ah, use then uppercase R21:14
OxDeadC0degenii-around we fixed it, he was out of space ;), hence the last comment I just made21:15
DarkSmokeis my partition corrupted or something?21:15
DarkSmoke:/21:15
genii-aroundOxDeadC0de: I was just catching up on scroll (just got back to computer)21:15
benbloom_lol trappist, I just realized someone in my house messed with the volume! so always my problem! the simplist.21:15
* cant_login bows to the "are you sure it's plugged in" godz!21:16
OxDeadC0dedarksmoke: sounds like hw issues to me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678096 - basically just says try individual replacement parts21:16
trappistbenbloom_: hahaha you wouldn't believe how often that turns out the be the answer to sound card issues21:16
DarkSmokehardware issues? you're trippin21:17
starenka*21:17
DarkSmokewindows works fine, so should linux21:17
DarkSmokelike it worked 3hours ago21:17
DarkSmokei think its a corrupted partition21:17
OxDeadC0deisn't sr0 for cdroms? what is sr0?21:17
DarkSmokemy hard drive probably21:18
DarkSmokecause its sata21:18
DarkSmoke16.812894] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 916454421:18
DarkSmoke[   16.812900] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 114556821:18
DarkSmoke[   19.188896] sr 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK21:18
DarkSmoke[   19.188900] sr 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Medium Error [current]21:18
DarkSmoke[   19.188903] sr 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error21:18
DarkSmokethats the whole error21:18
OxDeadC0dehard drives with sata are sd, not sr21:18
cant_loginis there a way to take a screen shot while a file menu is open?21:18
OxDeadC0demy sr0 points to scd021:18
benbloom_!return | DarkSmoke21:18
ubottuDarkSmoke: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:18
genii-aroundOxDeadC0de: Actually I asked him way back for df -h he had only 66% usage on his drive21:19
OxDeadC0decant_login yeah, start ksnapshot, set it for 3 seconds or something21:19
OxDeadC0degenii-around maybe he did :P But his /home partition was filled to the brim ;)21:19
cant_loginok21:19
benbloom_I know-- just figured I'd have learned by now--  just finished a major battle with the hardware gods where it turned out to be a motherboard issue. so of course I am now humbled again! :D21:19
starenkahello21:20
genii-aroundOxDeadC0de: Aaaah :)21:20
starenkaI've migrated my kubuntu installation to another hardrive recently. Everyhting works like usual, BUT i doesnt seem to hybernate at all. I just hybernate it and next time it starts the whole system from scratch (also there's no graphcal boot ). I thought it was because i forget to tell the system to use swap partition, but its enabled and the problem is still here. thanx for reading this essay21:20
genii-aroundOxDeadC0de: This is what he showed me at that time: http://pastebin.com/m242994fa21:20
DarkSmokehmm i think its because i had a damaged cd in the drive OxDeadC0de21:21
DarkSmoke;p21:21
OxDeadC0degenii-around ya from that I would have assumed as you did ^^21:21
OxDeadC0dedarksmoke so it works now? :P21:22
DarkSmokei didn't reboot to try21:23
DarkSmokebut i think it should21:23
OxDeadC0degenii-around apparently he didn't post all of it i guess, oh well, all good now so yay!21:24
OxDeadC0destarenka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=306640421:25
starenkaOxDeadC0de:  well, it worked untill i migrated to new hdd...21:26
starenkathere are ALOT messages in syslog21:27
starenkaabout hdd, but i dont know if its usual or not ;(21:29
cant_loginthanks again for the help everyone. don't forget to plug the smoke detector back in.21:31
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matt_____I remember, after freshly installing the newest Ubuntu, there is a button to install it to a flash drive, is this feature availible for Kubuntu?21:32
OxDeadC0destarenka what's your /boot/grub/menu.lst look like ? (pastebin it please)21:33
OxDeadC0de!paste21:33
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seba_!es21:33
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:33
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OxDeadC0deI have a feeling starenka's problem is with UUID's not being set21:35
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genii-aroundOxDeadC0de: Did you get a blkid of current drive and a paste of old fstab for compare?21:36
shadowhywindhay all, when i try to install any package I am getthing The package vmware-server needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. how can i fix this message?21:36
OxDeadC0degenii-around he left before I could get more info from him, but I noticed hibernation uses RESUME=UUID=a63ede3b-316f-4281-a279-7a9a86e99f54 in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume - which leads me to believe his problems are with UUID's21:37
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Guest59818Can someone help me fix my sound on kubuntu 8.10 kde4. It was working but it has stoped.21:43
Brett_howdy all... i've just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 yesterday and have been working my ways through the issues (glorious)... one that is really getting me is when i login to kde, there appear to be two network managers running. ps shows them as nm-applet and knetworkmanager. which one am i supposed to use? they seem to be getting very confused with each other21:43
OxDeadC0deGuest59818: Check to make sure your volume is turned on21:44
* genii-around sips21:44
Guest59818kmix wont start21:44
OxDeadC0debrett_ they're both frontends to the same thing, nm-applet however is the gnome version21:45
Guest59818kmix(6426) Mixer::getGlobalMasterMD: Mixer::masterCardDevice() returns 0 (no globalMaster)21:46
Brett_0xDeadC0de: how do i stop nm-applet from starting when kde starts? i've moved .kde out the way and it still starts even on a fresh startup...21:47
OxDeadC0deGuest59818 Ubuntu 8.10 right? k menu/system settings/sound - change your device preference so that alsa or pulseaudio are on top21:48
PhilRodBrett_: ah, I had the same issue - I removed network-manager-gnome in adept21:48
PhilRodseems to have fixed it21:48
OxDeadC0debrett_ I simply removed it, like philrod21:48
Brett_hehe love it, thanks will do that21:48
OxDeadC0debrett_ I looked for a couple hours before on howto keep it from starting with it installed (So I can use it in gnome), but for some reason in both gnome and kde they both want to start, no idea why21:49
OxDeadC0decould be something to do with the Xinit script or something it loads21:49
Guest59818I only see hde intel21:50
Brett_guess that's what we get for using kde on a distro originally made just to support gnome ;)21:50
PhilRodhas anyone noticed slowness scrolling in the composer window in kmail in 8.10?21:51
PhilRodit's still there after an update to 4.1.3, and after switching from nvidia to nv driver21:52
moppedHow can I delete everything in a folder?21:52
athlon1Kubuntu 8.10 and konqueror. Where are the other options of the pannel. In service I only see applications and fonts type, but not the others...21:53
athlon1Do I have to install any other component?21:53
genii-aroundmopped: rm -r /foldername/*21:53
SJr|NbookAnyone know an app that will convert a Movie of unknown codec to iPod format for immediate export to a non-US extradition country?21:53
genii-aroundmopped: If it has non-empty subfolders use: rm -rf /foldername/*21:54
moppedcan I just do rm -rf * if i'm already in the folder?21:54
genii-aroundmopped: Yes21:54
moppedok thanks21:55
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earleHowdy folks. I heard that there are packages available for KDE 4.2 (i.e. the current development version), is that correct?22:00
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OxDeadC0debrett_ just found a better way than removing it - havn't tested it yet though, but the only autostart file nm-applet registers is with /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop - now when I open the other .desktops I see some that only start in gnome have the line "OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;", where nm-applet doesn't.. so I added that line, should do it22:02
glkasleghow can I choose konqueror as filebrowser instead of dolphine?22:02
fridyin kubuntu intrepid there are at least packages for kde 4.1.222:02
gavin2712hello22:03
OxDeadC0defridy in backports there's 4.1.3, (Backports are unsupported!)22:03
Guest96839I managed to get kmix to start, front and pcm are both up, nothing is muted but still no sound.22:03
Guest96839alsa wont start: The command could not be located because '/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.22:04
Guest96839any ideas?22:05
Guest96839I have to keep switching back to windows to play music it sucks :/22:05
trappistGuest96839: tried with sudo?22:08
OxDeadC0deGuest96839 I use pulseaudio on top of alsa so I can't really help, alsa works for me out of the box, and for pulseaudio i simply had to make /etc/asound.conf with four three-lined entries, then start pulseaudio22:08
Guest96839sudo alsa returns: alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume} :s I was expecting some volume controls22:09
OxDeadC0deguest96839 1) your guest name is a little annoying to type :P, 2), alsamixer for mixing22:09
Guest96839call me david..22:10
Guest96839ok thanks il try that22:10
OxDeadC0deok then david: try /nick david (or something close as "David" is probably taken)22:10
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david0287got it22:11
OxDeadC0dethank you :D22:11
david0287alsamixer all volumes are up22:11
OxDeadC0deand in kde menu/system settings/sound you have your alsa devices at the top of the prefered device lists right?22:11
david0287there is nothing in there that says alsa22:13
OxDeadC0demine says HDA Nvidia (CONEXANT Analog)22:13
david0287output device preference: hda intel (alc286 analog)22:13
OxDeadC0deyour speakers are plugged in (both computer and power) with the volume up right? (Or is it laptop or whu?)22:14
OxDeadC0de(Have to ask :P)22:14
david0287yes laptop, it works in windows22:14
OxDeadC0dein alsamixer, where it says Item: at the top and has a name next to it, it doesn't say (off) right?22:15
OxDeadC0deon master or pcm22:15
seba_!paste22:15
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david0287nothing says off22:16
david0287master [db gain=-29, -29] is this normal?22:17
david0287well its up anyway22:19
david0287opening amarok I get xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers22:20
cytiz_Salut22:23
OxDeadC0dedavid0287 if you do: aplay somemp3.mp3 does it make any noise? (For me it produces static)22:25
simooHi, fresh install of Kubuntu, I ran the resticted driver app and ticked to activate the nvidia driver and the whole thing froze on 88% can anyone help?22:26
simooI rebooted and then couldn't login22:26
OxDeadC0desimoo: log into the terminal, type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server , try again22:27
onioI'll gas u22:27
OxDeadC0deSalut? Are we taking shots of Vodka now? ^^22:27
simooOxDeadC0de: thanks, actually I have reinstalled (it's so quick) shall I run the restricted driver ap again or try a different way?22:28
OxDeadC0desimoo I'd use the restricted driver app, it's more tailored to ubuntu than nvidia's installer package22:29
simooOxDeadC0de: ok thanks, I'm giving it another shot22:29
marco_I'm having video playback issues22:33
marco_it seems to be freezing for a quarter of a second every now and then22:33
simooOxDeadC0de: Right, worked this time. Might be worth mentioning that, it didn't work when the 'unsuported' repository was selected22:33
OxDeadC0demarco_ try a different video player22:33
marco_using mplayer, vlc and dragon on ubuntu 8.1022:33
marco_all present issues22:33
OxDeadC0desimoo that's strange, I have all repo's selected and then some and it worked for me earlier today22:33
OxDeadC0demarco_ you use alsa or pulseaudio or ?22:34
marco_in mplayer, pulse is giving:AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused22:34
marco_and failing back to alsa22:34
simooOxDeadC0de: Must just be my system then. It was; fresh install, select 'unsupported', get updates, restricted driver freeze22:35
OxDeadC0demarco_ I'd open up top in a terminal, make sure there's no program spiking cpu usage every few seconds, make sure I have the latest video card drivers installed, and umm22:36
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marco_using a core 2 duo T5670 laptop with 965GM graphics22:36
david02870xDeadCo0de: I heard the static, Restarted to shut it up!22:36
marco_ubuntu didn't ask for restricted drivers, I guess intel's open ones should be up to snuff.. or aren't they?22:36
OxDeadC0dedavid0287 lol, you could have pressed control+c to kill it ;), but okay so now we know pulseaudio is working and it's kde's backend that's having trouble22:36
marco_checked for rapid cpu apps, found nothing too :-(22:37
OxDeadC0deintels are open yeah22:37
david0287ok22:37
OxDeadC0demarco_ what about cpu frequency scaling?22:37
marco_fixed it in "performance mode", freezing occurs insignificantly less22:37
OxDeadC0dedavid0287 in kde menu/system settings/sound/backend, which backend do you use? xine or gstreamer?22:37
david0287xine is the only thing listed22:38
marco_I'm running the video from the local disk22:38
marco_so, no network bottlenecks too ;-(22:38
OxDeadC0demarco_ sata hd's?22:39
marco_powertop indicates the cause for most wakeups is from knotify422:39
marco_aye, 7200rpm ones22:39
marco_it's a notebook computer though, but still should give enough bandwidth for a lowly dvd resolution xvid22:40
starenkahi why session saving works when logging out, but not when turning the comp.off?22:42
OxDeadC0demarco_ shot in the dark here, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/252094/22:44
OxDeadC0demarco_ are you using compiz or anything else that uses the graphics card a lot?22:46
marco_no, but compiz runs relatively fine if I turn it on22:47
OxDeadC0demarco_ also try disabling kwin's desktop effects if you use them (without compiz)22:47
marco_hmmm... no desktop effect seem to be activated22:48
marco_I think I'll benchmark kubuntu's pity by crying hopelessly in front of my webcam22:48
OxDeadC0demarco_ are there any errors in your xorg.log ? anything like: AIGLX error: drmMap of framebuffer failed (Invalid argument)(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering22:49
marco_only one error showed when grepping for "EE": (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B!22:50
marco_lots of Warning: We only handle seperate sync warnings22:51
OxDeadC0demarco_ I'd suspect that's your problem there ^^, I'm not expert on xorg or anything but that looks wrong22:52
marco_yeah, sure sounds kinda ugly... let's see what google tells us there...22:53
trappisthey where do I get the acroread package for intrepid?22:53
trappistnm found medibuntu22:55
OxDeadC0demarco_ you can try #intel-gfx (dunno if it's on this server though), see if they have ideas22:59
marco_hmm... failed to gather any possible solutions from google23:00
marco_I'll try bothering them on intel-gfx ;-) that failing, I think I'll give up on kubuntu :-(23:01
OxDeadC0deonly one I saw was some guy compiling an unstable version of the intel driver and using that with his xorg23:01
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agustinwhich is the preferred partition tool for kubuntu 8.10?23:02
agustinI used kvpm to create and mount a partition, but it is not automounting at boot time23:02
marco_hmmm... I'll see what I can do here. Thank you for your attention.23:03
OxDeadC0degood luck marco_!23:04
SilentDishello23:05
SilentDisgetting really slow dvd access ever since upgrading to 8.10.  dvds burn slow, dvd playback of movies is choppy, etc.  i'm trying to search for it but i mustn't be throwing the right keywords at it.  any suggestions?23:06
keyzekwhere can i find free shell account  ?23:11
kkathmankeyzek:  why do you need a shell account?23:12
SilentDisah hah!  disabled dma on my DVD drive, that'll do it...23:12
SilentDis!dma23:12
ubottudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA23:12
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earleSorry, I asked this earlier but didn't get much of a reaction... are there packages for kde 4.2? Or otherwise, how can I try out the current work in progress?23:16
SilentDisearle: last news i see on the kubuntu website is that 4.1.3 is available from backports.  nothing yet on 4.2 out there yet in ubuntu-maintained packages.23:17
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earleSilentDis: Okay - thank you.23:18
scratch613Hello everybody.23:19
OxDeadC0desilentdis: 4.2 isn't expected to be released until Jan anyway23:19
earleYes; hence my interest in the alphas. Or are we at beta now?23:21
SilentDisbbiab, time to see if i got the dma fixed on my drive23:21
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wallabeewhen i install a new splash screen themes (unser get new themes) they dont appear in the box with the other themes but if i click on get new themes they show they are installed.  Any advice?23:26
marco_OxDeadC0de, #intel-gfx guys think something is causing the xorg server to "go do 100ms of work", it seems it's app related23:30
marco_some app seems to be causing xorg to do this, they are not sure what23:30
OxDeadC0demarco_ try running a failself session with just a terminal, launch vlc, open a vid, see if that's the case?23:30
marco_good thinking, I think I'll do just that23:31
wallabeehow can i access other desktop effects besides those listed in system settings .. can i/ how can i use or access compiz , and kde control center??23:31
genii-aroundInteresting debugging tactic :)23:31
earlewallabee: compiz has its own settings application.23:32
wallabeeearle: is this in adept?23:33
earlewallabee: I dunno, I did apt-get install compiz.23:36
SilentDishow do I enable DMA on my DVD drive?  the !dma factoid applies to versions earlier that 8.1023:36
earlewallabee: compiz is indeed available through adept.23:37
Neremorwas the nice kcontrol tool removed from version 8.10?23:39
choppywallabee: Maybe the compiz icon could help23:40
wallabeeearle: thanks for checking  choppy:  i have something installed from adept "compiz fusion icon" but when i click it doesnt do anything23:40
Neremorif i try to install it via adept, im supposed to remove the kde-desktop files...23:41
choppyit sets itself in the bar i think23:41
choppytry right clicking the icon in the systray23:41
earleLook for CompizConfig Settings Manager in Settings in the K menu.23:42
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wallabeechoppy: it never appears in the systray..when i click on it appears on the bar below like its loading a normal program then just disappears23:44
choppyoh23:44
choppydunno then23:45
choppyi used the icon for compiz23:45
wallabeeearle: i dont see any CompizConfig Settings Manager in settings23:45
wallabeethe icon worked for me in the earlier version of kubuntu but not the new23:46
vicente¿como voy al chat en español?23:47
JontheEchidna!es23:47
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:47
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merrill__does anyone know how to get a video card to work with kubuntu23:52
jonasbethello23:53
merrill__hi23:53
jonasbetcan anybody help to reinstall smplayer23:53
jonasbet?23:53
benbloommerrill__: what card are you using?23:54
merrill__pinnacle pctvhd23:54
merrill__the damn thing says windows there has to be a way to connect with unix or ubuntu23:58
camerihow do I make KBFX appear on my desktop?23:59

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