[00:08] <_2> oh poo.     just script me!
[00:13] <DaSkreech> sh _2
[00:16] <gloopy> hi
[00:18] <gloopy> I'm using 8.04 and GIMP 2.6.0 why does every image I click on open in a new instance of GIMP. On Gutsy and 2.4 I only have one GIMP and a few windows
[00:18] <angela> hello every one ken i ask a qeustjen here ?
[00:18] <gloopy> now I a have 12 windows on the task pane bar thing for four images
[00:20] <_2> yu ken
[00:23] <gloopy> I have tried changing the start line, gimp %u   gimp    gimp. Does anybody have any ideas to encourage GIMP to only have instance open.
[00:26] <_2> gloopy if no one in here has da'as you might ask in #gimp
[00:26] <amigrave> how can I use console8x16 fonts in konsole ? fontconfig is configured ok to show bitmaps, I can see the font in kcontrol but can't select it in konsole
[00:26] <gloopy> _2: that's a very useful suggestion :)
[00:26] <gloopy> I've just joined
[00:27] <_2> amigrave is konsole configured to use bitmap fonts ?
[00:30] <jabapyth> Im on kde4, and I just enabled some desktop effects in the system settings, and all at once it blackscreens on me. My desktop is totally unusable
[00:30] <jabapyth> How do I disable desktop effects from the console?
[00:31] <jabapyth> (i had to do a console login)
[00:31] <jabapyth> is there some config file I can edit....?
[00:31] <DaSkreech> jabapyth: Hardy or Ibex ?
[00:32] <jabapyth> ibex
[00:32] <DaSkreech> edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[00:32] <amigrave> _2: damn !! indeed ! Just saw this "Use smooth fonts" checkbox
[00:32] <amigrave> _2: thanks a LOT !
[00:32] <jabapyth> DaSkreech: thanks!
[00:34] <amigrave> wow !! konsole is very slow with console8x16 !!?? WOnder if it's an nvidia issue. I'll try with "nv"
[00:35] <_2> amigrave even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.    err i mean welcome
[00:37] <amigrave> seems there's a bug in konsole. When unchecking "use smooth fonts" in order to select the "Console" font, konsole is slow as hell. Printing the output of ls -al is slow. But.. when checking "Use smooth font" again, konsole will still continue to use Console font and the speed is back (like default font). I'll report this.
[00:43] <jabapyth> DaSkeet: so now I disabled everything I could find in the kderc file, and Im getting a white screen ;) I still have a cursor, though
[00:43] <jabapyth> any other tips?
[00:44] <jabapyth> Is there some way to just reset desktop configuration for kde4?
[00:44] <_2> rm the configs ?
[00:45] <jabapyth> i guess i could try that..
[00:45] <DaSkreech> jabapyth: Hmm ? What did you change?
[00:45] <DaSkreech> You only need to change one line
[00:45] <jabapyth> btw, once im in console mode, is there a way to get back to graphical mode other than restarting? ;)
[00:45] <DaSkreech> if you want to start from scratch then mv the config file out of the dir
[00:45] <DaSkreech> jabapyth: Lots of ways
[00:45] <jabapyth> i tried sudo kdm
[00:45] <_2> jabapyth alt+f7
[00:46] <DaSkreech> safe way is sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:46] <jabapyth> which worked in hardy
[00:46] <jabapyth> k
[00:46] <_2> ?dm
[00:46] <DaSkreech>  :-)
[00:46] <jabapyth> ah ;) i found alt-f7, it works magic
[00:46] <_2> covers gdm kde xdm
[00:46] <DaSkreech> That's not safe if you have three dms installed
[00:47] <_2> DaSkreech only the one that is running will start
[00:47] <DaSkreech> _2: There is none running is the issue
[00:48] <_2> wrong.  see   ^
[00:48] <_2> i.e.   <jabapyth> ah ;) i found alt-f7, it works magic
[00:49] <jabapyth> hmm...removing kdedrc didnt help
[00:50] <jabapyth> jk, i see i moved the wrong file...all is fixed now.
[00:50] <jabapyth> thanks so much DaSkreech, _2
[00:50] <dig> hi, just wonder ctrl + alt + F1->F6. If I login into all of them, does it mean users use the same resouces at the same time
[00:50] <_2> welcome.
[00:51] <DaSkreech> jabapyth: Woooah No kwinrc
[00:51] <_2> dig no.
[00:51] <DaSkreech> dig: What?
[00:51] <dig> ok, I guess what does tty1 -> tty6 do?
[00:52] <_2> dig anything i want them too
[00:52] <dig> sorry?
[00:52] <_2> i'm in tty2 talking to you here.
[00:53] <DaSkreech> dig: It's like having a new computer without having any more hardware
[00:53] <_2> i have an editor open in tty1 working on a script.   and some monitoring apps in tty24
[00:54] <DaSkreech> 24?
[00:54] <_2> yes
[00:54] <DaSkreech> Why would you have one in 24?
[00:54] <dig> so alt +f7 only brings you back to GUI tty2?
[00:54] <_2> cause it's right_alt+f12
[00:54] <DaSkreech> what are you doing in 3-23 that You can't tell us about?
[00:55] <_2> dig yes the gui is in tty7 by default
[00:55] <_2> that is adjustable
[00:56] <_2> DaSkreech not a lot.  and the things that i can't tell you about,  i can't tell you about
[00:56] <_2> ;/
[00:57]  * DaSkreech nods sagely
[00:57] <dig> ok, so only 1 instance kdm is able to run?
[00:57] <DaSkreech> dig: no
[00:57] <DaSkreech> You can put more on other terminals if you like
[00:57] <_2> also the commands chvt #   to change to tty#    and   openvt -fc #      where # is the tty you want to start a new shell in.   add -s if you want to switch to that tty also.
[00:57] <dig> so say, if I start kdm at tty1 -> tty6, is it possible?
[00:58] <_2> dig yes it is possable.  but you have to edit the config  else kdm will only run in tty7+
[00:59] <dig> ic
[01:01] <_2> dig however you may be confusing running multi-instances of kdm with opening multi-instances of kde   they are not the same.  the xserver can support multiple sessions and each will open in it's own (+1) tty
[01:02] <DaSkreech> ^^This^^
[01:03] <dig> ah, what is different between running multi-instances and opening multi-instances?
[01:03] <_2> heh.   kdm and kde
[01:03] <_2> read again   ^
[01:04] <_2> to open another session of kde just click the "switch users" button in the kmenu
[01:04] <_2> after you login  and the session is loaded press  alt+ctrl+f7
[01:10] <dig> e.g. I am running tty2, then crtl + alt +f2, but other users login. Will he/she be able to starty kdm?
[01:11] <_2> dig running what in tty2 ?     short answer is yes.
[01:11] <dig> ya, because I try to login myself in, but I cannot start another kdm.
[01:12] <dig> need to edit config..I guess
[01:12] <_2> you can...    but again, let me stress the differance in kdm and kde
[01:12] <_2> !info kdm
[01:13] <_2> !info kde
[01:14] <dig> ok, thx
[01:14] <gloopy> how do I fix 'Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session' ?
[01:14] <_2> kdm the display manager provides a graphical login screen, and then starts the (*) session       kde the desktop environment is the session in question in this conversation which has drifted off topic
[01:15] <_2> gloopy check the logs and find out why it failed ?
[01:16] <gloopy> it appeared when I tried to start gimp from the terminal
[01:17] <_2> dig also of note, and maybe more helpful in seeing what is actually happening; getty is the console login manager which then starts the console session (aka shell)
[01:17] <_2> gloopy hmmm is dbus running ?
[01:18] <gloopy> I've just installed dbus-x11 and the error has gone away
[01:18] <_2> gloopy ok.  call us if you need us.
[01:18] <_2> :)
[01:20] <scholz> need help with FireFox and Kodak Plugin
[01:21] <scholz> anyone interested?
[01:21] <gloopy> I wonder what else might have been affected by the d-bus not working?
[01:23] <_2> dig the consoles "tty#" are provided by the kernel and init.  init then runs the startup scripts which tell it to execute getty on tty[1-6] and execute ?dm (kdm in this case) kdm's confug file tells it to check for a vacant console at tty7(+1 until match) then put the graphical login screen in that tty.   the kernel hotkeys alt+ctrl+f# switch to the tty#       any more thoughts/questions i'd be glad to expound
[01:23] <_2> gloopy automount for sure.  bluetooth usb devices...
[01:24] <_2> gloopy or maybe i should say.  apps that access bluetooth/usb devices.
[01:25] <_2> power management apps too possably
[01:25] <gloopy> I'm going to restart and see if the problem stays fixed
[01:25] <gloopy> _2: thanks for your help
[01:26] <_2> "reboot will fix anything"  M$'ism
[01:26] <_2> gloopy welcome.
[01:28] <wallabee_> anyone know if tne screen flicker rands Bug is fixed yet?
[01:33] <dig> _2, just interested. Say you are using tty24, how do you use hotkey?
[01:35] <kkathman> is there a way to make windows transparent in KDE4 like you could in compiz??
[01:35] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Yes
[01:35] <anthrax> hello
[01:35] <anthrax> somebody speaking german here?
[01:35] <_2> dig when outside of xorg the "ctrl" is not needed. only alt+f#    left_alt+f#  is tty 1 - 12    and right_alt+f#  is tty 13 - 24    also i have the two winkeys set to increese tty ~ decreese tty  number by one.    same as alt+left dirrection  & alt+right dirrection
[01:35] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  could you point me in that direction?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> kkathman: The translucent plugin
[01:36] <DaSkreech> !de | anthrax
[01:36] <_2> dig there are actually 255 ttys
[01:36] <wallabee_> how to get thiss plugin?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> wallabee_: Installed by default
[01:37] <_2> dig i never use more than 24 at any give time tho
[01:37] <dig> cool
[01:37] <_2> normally not over about 8
[01:37] <DaSkreech> Then you have 64 Desktops
[01:37] <_2> desktop is in a tty
[01:37] <DaSkreech> which can each have 20 activities
[01:38] <_2> screen can support multi-session ttys too
[01:38] <_2> 128*255
[01:38] <kkathman> DaSkreech: right, that plugin is checked, but it looks like that only controls the window when it moves
[01:39] <kkathman> In compiz you could alt+mousewheel to change the translucency of any window
[01:39] <tbr281> i recently reinstalled and upgraded to kubuntu 8.10+kde4 and was wondering what decoder k3b uses for mp3's?
[01:39] <_2> and with job control one might be able to run more than one screen session in a single tty
[01:41] <_2> heh  one can also use one tty's 128 screen shells to log into same box via ssh and start a new screen session in each login
[01:41] <anthrax> somebody there to help me with mysql?
[01:42] <dig> anthrax: what is wrong?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> kkathman: You don't have an opacity option in alt=F3 ?
[01:42] <anthrax> i want to install mythtv
[01:42] <anthrax> and its necessary to give the databases adresses
[01:42] <DaSkreech> !myth
[01:42] <DaSkreech> !mythtv
[01:43] <kkathman> DaSkreech: ahh there we go... was looking more for a slider rather than fixed %
[01:43] <DaSkreech> kkathman: that's been there since KDE2 btw
[01:44] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  Im sure, but like I said in Compiz you could scale that opacity -- somewhere between 10s
[01:44] <anthrax> its not the program to install this
[01:44] <anthrax> the problem ^
[01:44] <anthrax> i cannot log in to mysql
[01:45] <tbr281> so, anyone know k3b's mp3 codecs?
[01:45] <_2> !mp3
[01:46] <dig> anthrax: does it give you error while you login or something else?
[01:47] <kkathman> DaSkreech: most people know those setting tho, not as Alt-F3 but right clicking the title bar of a window I reckon
[01:47] <kkathman> I miss the cube :) lol
[01:48] <DaSkreech> kkathman: It's in Kwin
[01:48] <_2> the cube ????    borg alert !
[01:48] <anthrax> yes
[01:48] <kkathman> right
[01:48] <anthrax> i have two problems
[01:48] <kkathman> not the cube tho :(
[01:49] <anthrax> in the installation program first asked to set language .... ok !
[01:49] <DaSkreech> kkathman: It's in kwin just not shipped. You should see it in 4.2 I would suspect
[01:50] <anthrax> theres a mistake....no upnp backends found
[01:51] <anthrax> then there are fields to put parameters in
[01:52] <anthrax> computer name or something(i use german)
[01:53] <_2> DRM is dead.   long live DRM !
[01:53] <anthrax> dig are you there?
[01:53] <_2> what am i saying ???    death to all DRM
[01:55] <dig> anthrax: I haven't use it before. but you may find this helpful ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726680
[01:56] <DaSkreech> _2: Which died?
[01:57] <_2> DaSkreech i only wish.
[01:57] <_2> !drm
[01:57] <_2> oh that we could all say that ubottu
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[01:57] <DaSkreech> _2 ++
[02:01] <dwidmann_> _2: if only that would happen ...
[02:01] <anthrax> hmm
[02:01] <anthrax> the same as before
[02:02] <anthrax> cannot find (ping) database host on the network ^
[02:11] <ncfi1013_> i have having trouble installing any kind of graphics driver for my nvidia geforce 6100 card. any research ive done reveals that the latest driver, 177.80, supports it, but i cant get it to work. can anybody help
[02:12] <dig> anthrax: do you try to connect remote server & watching shows, etc?
[02:13] <anthrax> i want only to make this program doing ok
[02:13] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: tried nvidia-glx-96?
[02:13] <anthrax> i am in the setup ^
[02:13] <ncfi1013_> not that experienced here. what is that?
[02:13] <anthrax> i went to terminal
[02:13] <anthrax> typed mysql
[02:13] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: an older version of the nvidia driver ... it was current when that card was released
[02:14] <ncfi1013_> how do i install it if i have to
[02:15] <anthrax> given command: mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.2" identified by "mythtv";
[02:16] <ncfi1013_> dwidmann, can i get it thru adept
[02:16] <s0undt3ch> ppl, why the hell does firefox need gnome libs!?
[02:16] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: yes
[02:16] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: the package aforementioned is nvidia-glx-96
[02:17] <DaSkreech> s0undt3ch: It's a bug
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Apparently the bug is that you installed KDE
[02:18] <dwidmann_> DaSkreech: that's an awfully weird way to put it
[02:19] <DaSkreech> dwidmann_: Read the bug report and you'll understand
[02:19] <ncfi1013_> pardon me for clarifying, dwidmann, but you are sure it will work with a 00:05.0
[02:19] <DaSkreech> anthrax: #ubuntu-mythtv
[02:20] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: 00:05.0?
[02:20] <dwidmann_> DaSkreech: a link to the bug?
[02:20] <Pyles17> !terminal
[02:21] <ncfi1013_> yeah i dont know how to explain it either
[02:21] <anthrax> @skreech im already there ... :D
[02:22] <dwidmann_> you could install a debranded/re-compiled version of firefox like swiftweasel if you don't want to install a load of gnome depends though
[02:22] <Pyles17> isn't there a key combo to open terminal?
[02:22] <ncfi1013_> maybe this will help to answer the question, the type of card that it might be is: intel ICH with ALC 655 (intel 655), dwidmann
[02:23] <dwidmann_> Pyles17: what I do is use xbindkeys for that
[02:23] <_2> Pyles17 if nothing else   alt+f2 konsole
[02:23] <Pyles17> dwidmann, _2: thanks
[02:24] <_2> does kde4 use khotkeys ?
[02:25] <_2> use/have
[02:25] <s0undt3ch> DaSkreech: are you sure you're on the right channel?
[02:25] <_2> come with ?
[02:25] <ncfi1013_> dwidmann, i am installing nvidia-glx-96 thru adept. is there anything else i will have to do after that?
[02:25] <Pyles17> _2: yes
[02:26] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: intel ich has something else to do with the motherboard and alc 655 has to do with the sound.
[02:26] <Pyles17> _2: I don't know how to use it, but it has it :p
[02:26] <_2> Pyles17 well there you go then
[02:26] <Pyles17> I'll figure it out
[02:26] <ncfi1013_> so i guess that is not helping
[02:26] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: yes ... you'll need to run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:27] <draik> Where is the Find feature in Kubuntu?
[02:27] <_2> kappfinder ?
[02:27] <_2> or the command "find" ?
[02:28] <draik> The app to find files on my computer.
[02:28] <_2> find
[02:28] <ncfi1013_> from login screen/console login or from konsole itself?
[02:28] <dwidmann_> in that case the locate command also qualifies
[02:28] <draik> I'm looking for an image so I would need a GUI
[02:28] <_2> man find    # in short   find /basedir/ -iname *partialname*
[02:28] <DaSkreech> _2: Does ibex install recommended by default ?
[02:29] <ncfi1013_> dwidmann, it is done installing
[02:29] <_2> DaSkreech idk.  i'm still using dapper
[02:29] <DaSkreech> _2: Don't like hardy ?
[02:30] <_2> DaSkreech i'm gonna get my money's worth out of this LTS before i move on   :)))
[02:30] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: so after running "sudo nvidia-xconfig" in a console, save any work you have opened and hit ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:30] <_2> DaSkreech actually dailup constrains me to down load as little as possable.
[02:30] <DaSkreech> _2: Paid for support ?
[02:30] <_2> paid throught the nose,  bandwidth
[02:31] <draik> Is there a GUI app to locate the file?
[02:31] <dwidmann_> _2: dialup with a bandwidth limit? that sounds quite painful
[02:32] <dwidmann_> _2: one would think that it being slow as a slug trying to go uphill would be limitation enough
[02:32] <dig> draik: you don't know what the file called?
[02:32] <ncfi1013_> what is the website for pastebin
[02:32] <_2> dwidmann_ indeed
[02:32] <Pyles17> !paste
[02:33] <_2> dwidmann_ or DaSkreech can you answer draik please ?
[02:33] <ncfi1013_> i have some negative results to your suggestion, dwidmann
[02:33] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: oh?
[02:33] <draik> Not really. I recall naming it with the ending being numerical.. *001.jpg *002.jpg and so forth. I don't recall what that * was now.
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Dolphin ?
[02:33] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: if it's nvidia-xconfig giving you a dangerous sounding warning, I was expecting that to happen, and it should be safe to ignore
[02:34] <dig> draik: I am not sure how you can search images like that
[02:35] <_2> i'm thinking one would have to thumbnail them
[02:35] <dwidmann_> _2: wouldn't it be kfind?
[02:35] <draik> dig: Not literally using asterisk. There was something prior to the numbers. They were screenshots.
[02:35] <ncfi1013_> maybe you could go here to see what i am talking about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70275/
[02:35] <_2> dwidmann_ maybe.  i thought kappfinder  but that's probably wrong.
[02:36] <_2> draik look for kfind
[02:36] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: sure can
[02:37] <_2> i have both kfind and kappfinder   but don't recall ever using either.
[02:37] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+F in konqueror invokes kfind I think
[02:37] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: yeah, that's the warning you're going to get when you run nvidia-xconfig in Intrepid, just ignore it.
[02:37] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: worst comes to worst, you can just restore the backup that nvidia-xconfig made for you
[02:38] <DaSkreech> s0undt3ch, dwidmann_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/266946
[02:38] <Pyles17> what's the command to extract a .tgz?
[02:39] <ncfi1013_> ok so did i succeed in installing it and how come all my windows are big, suffocating, and "fat"?
[02:39] <dr_willis> !info unp
[02:39] <dr_willis> :) i cheat and use 'unp' Pyles17  , the normal command is tar xzvf whateverfile
[02:39] <Pyles17> dr_willis: thank you
[02:40] <draik> _2: dig: Nothing found. Thanks for your help. I hope I have a backup of that image elsewhere too.
[02:40] <_2> draik you can look throught your thumbnail cache too
[02:41] <dwidmann_> DaSkreech: and for what I was talking about earlier, hehe, http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/15107
[02:41] <draik> It's been a while, _2.
[02:41] <dig> draik: just wonder does kfind needs to index files, before searching
[02:41] <dwidmann_> ncfi1013_: resolution issue maybe?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> No
[02:42] <DaSkreech> it works just like find from the command line
[02:42] <_2> draik still    find / -iname *.jpg > list.txt      and you can look throught  list.txt    with any editor    it should list all .jpg files on the system
[02:42] <dig> is it worth to try slocate?
[02:43] <DaSkreech> dig: If you like
[02:43] <draik> _2: Good point. Thank you. I will try that now.
[02:43] <_2> dig should prolly   sudo updatedb    first
[02:43] <dig> ya
[02:44] <_2> draik might quote  '*.jpg'  to protect from word expansion in case you have any files by that name in the $PWD      just a thought.
[02:46] <newlife> Hi - Can't seem to figure out how to change my desktop wallpaper - I download some but can't get them to show up - Doing something wrong here? ?
[02:46] <draik> _2: I went with      find /home/draik/ -iname *.jpg > Desktop/jpg.txt
[02:47] <_2> draik ok.  but if there was any filename.jpg in the $PWD it didn't work right.
[02:48] <_2> $PWD == where is me now
[02:48] <draik> Right, but I know I put it somewhere within my own $HOME
[02:48] <_2> k
[02:50] <_2> why did i get this >>> slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old
[02:50] <_2> i just ran   updatedb
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Exactly what the error said
[02:51] <_2> slocate / | wc -l
[02:51] <_2> slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old
[02:51] <_2> 169294
[02:51] <_2> DaSkreech if updatedb doesn't update the database then what does ?
[02:52] <Ashex> bah
[02:52] <Ashex> why does katapult launch folders in filelight
[02:52] <DaSkreech> updatedb but the warning is that it hasn't been run in 8 days
[02:52] <draik> While on the topic of finding images, is there a way to find duplicates? My girl and I have two separate folders for our camera pictures and I know there are duplicates of our pictures elsewhere on the system. Anyway to find duplicates and remove the one we don't want?
[02:52] <lovre> how do i take a screenshot?
[02:52] <_2> i just ran it becore the command i posted   ^
[02:52] <DaSkreech> ksnapshot
[02:52] <_2> DaSkreech    ^
[02:53] <_2> before
[02:53] <DaSkreech> ah then it lies :)
[02:53] <_2> i would think so.   that's why i asked the Q.    "why did i get this "
[02:54] <_2> lovre or the printscreen too maybe.
[02:55] <lovre> _2: yes, ksnapshot it is, i was wondering it wasnt bount to PRTSCR button
[02:55] <_2> hmmm in some desktop the button does work. i have used it... just not sure where
[02:56] <lovre> _2: ok, thanx
[02:58] <cameri> Hello
[02:59] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/15111
[03:00] <_2>              ?
[03:01] <_2> it's not updating ???
[03:01] <Pyles17> !iwlwifi
[03:01] <kabotage> how come im on kde and my desktop is gnome???
[03:02] <_2> you arent
[03:02] <_2> are you asking why you are in the kubuntu support channel ?
[03:03] <_2> or are you asking why a gnome session started when you logged in ?
[03:03] <kabotage> nope. im using kde and my desktop is gnome
[03:03] <_2> you are not using kde if your desktop is gnome,   you are using gnome
[03:03] <kabotage> kdm
[03:04] <_2> ok.  because you logged into a gnome session
[03:04] <_2> and what ?dm you use to do so is irrelavent
[03:05] <_2> there is a menu in the dm to allow you to choose which session you log into.  use it.
[03:05] <kabotage> i dunno. my taskbar is kde.i dont have gdm, im using kde 4.1. im confused
[03:05] <_2> again.   ?dm matters not at all.
[03:06] <_2> it can be xdm for all the session cares
[03:06] <kabotage> but
[03:07] <_2> also if your "task bar"  is kde (actually kicker)   what makes you think you are in gnome ?
[03:08] <kabotage> how come that happen? i only installed nvidia and configured it to make a dual screen.
[03:08] <_2> !info pastebinit | kabotage install this if you don't have it already
[03:08] <kabotage> if your on kde you wont see any icons on your desktop. i see a whole bunch icons
[03:09] <_2> who said you wont ?
[03:09] <_2> kde can have icons
[03:09] <_2> gnome can be without them.
[03:10] <_2> seeing icons is not an indication of what desktop env you are in.  other than it might mean you are not in twm.
[03:11] <kabotage> no. i mean theres a separate folder if your on kde. and its gnome. even the right click option
[03:11] <Pyles17> _2: nice exploit of the chat bot
[03:11] <_2> in a terminal run    ps ax | pastebinit
[03:11] <_2> Pyles17 heh   my speciality
[03:12] <_2> !helpersnack | Pyles17 i'm even going to share my cookies with you because,
[03:12] <_2> :)
[03:12] <Pyles17> _2 lol
[03:13] <_2> just don't put an "is" in your string and you can say almost anything
[03:13] <_2> !ubottu | ubottu is ubottu
[03:14] <_2> oh they fixed it
[03:14] <_2> kewL
[03:14] <Pyles17> What was wrong with it?
[03:14] <Pyles17> !paste
[03:15] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i just did an upgrade from gutsy to intrepid, and network manager wont connect me to my wired interent
[03:15] <ForzaPalermo> but if i do a dhclient eth0 in terminal im fine
[03:15] <ForzaPalermo> any ideas?
[03:15] <_2> it key'd the is and took it as a command to ammend the infonode     command being    "ubottu blah is string here"    and it didn't check for the | so it thought it was being told to correct an infonode or creat one.
[03:16] <Pyles17> weird
[03:16] <kabotage> _2 http://pastebin.com/f4793b4f2
[03:16] <_2> ForzaPalermo i think that's a known bug
[03:16] <ForzaPalermo> _2, hmm so i guess im better off doing a clean install?
[03:17] <ForzaPalermo> u know ive enver been able to upgrade kubuntu distros without issues lol, always have to resort to clean install
[03:18] <_2> kabotage you are indeed running a hibird session   "   92.  6016 ?        S      0:04 /usr/bin/metacity --replace "  is the reason.
[03:19] <Pyles17> can someone help me install the intel 3945 driver? In my state of newbness i can't decifer the readme. http://paste.ubuntu.com/70291/
[03:19] <kabotage> _2 how do i fix it?
[03:19] <_2> kabotage kcontrol ?
[03:19] <mdowner> HI
[03:20] <_2> kabotage or look in ~/.kde/Autostart/   for any files/links  that might be starting it ?
[03:20] <_2> kabotage not sure there.
[03:21] <_2> kabotage maybe run   kwin --replace    and if it works be sure to save session and logout / back in.
[03:22] <legodude> is there a way to swap the mouse buttons from command line?
[03:22] <legodude> whenever I resume from suspend, my mouse buttons are swapped
[03:22] <ganymede> is anyone else noticing that taskbar and title bar icons are corrupted when using KDE 4.1.3 apps over X11 forwarding? i'm using XWin-32 8.0 and PuTTY on the client side and OpenSSH on the server
[03:23] <_2> kmousetool might be able too
[03:23] <_2> .3 ?
[03:23] <legodude> thanks
[03:23] <Pyles17> can someone help me install the intel 3945 driver? In my state of newbness i can't decifer the readme. http://paste.ubuntu.com/70291/
[03:23] <kabotage> _2 thanks. im really new to this.
[03:23] <xavier> lol
[03:23] <Pyles17> kabotage: me tooooooooo
[03:25] <wtffff> saa7134 ALSA: can't load, DMA sound handler already assigned (probably to OSS)
[03:25] <wtffff> help
[03:25] <wtffff> y is this happening
[03:26] <_2> Pyles17 as per line 32-33   grep CONFIG_FW_LOADER /boot/*
[03:26] <DaSkreech> twm is a de ?
[03:27] <_2> DaSkreech well depends on how exactly you define desktop environment i guess
[03:27] <_2> :)
[03:28] <_2> Pyles17 does that give you usable output ?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> kabotage, Pyles17: Welcome to Kubuntu :)
[03:29]  * mister-tea wonders if he knows to type it interminal
[03:29] <Pyles17> DaSkreech: thank you very much sir
[03:29] <Pyles17> it gave an output
[03:29] <Pyles17> just a second
[03:30] <Pyles17> _2: /boot/config-2.6.27-7-generic:CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y
[03:30] <Pyles17> i was trying to paste the output into the chat and it was taken as a command
[03:31] <charims> hi everyone
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !hi
[03:31] <_2> ok that means that the kernel "2.6.27-7-generic"   which should match  `uname -r`  does indeed have the firmware loader support    so the rest is pretty streight forward.
[03:31] <mcmistiko> mmm
[03:31] <mcmistiko> :S
[03:31] <mcmistiko> xD
[03:31] <Pyles17> _2 thanks
[03:32] <ablack7> Hello all
[03:32] <Pyles17> !hello
[03:32] <_2> Pyles17 heh yes.  any line starting with / is a command.    you can just hit the space bar and then paste in most cases
[03:32] <_2>  /this works for me
[03:32] <ablack7> has anyone set up a xampp before?????????
[03:32] <Pyles17> _2 thanks. I have a feeling I will be on here often
[03:32] <jmichaelx> !hi | ubottu
[03:32] <_2> /say /so does this
[03:32] <jmichaelx> XD
[03:33] <ablack7> Xampp anyone??
[03:33] <ganymede> dd dd
[03:33] <Pyles17> ablack7: kinda sorta not really
[03:34] <Pyles17> ablack7: is it with gtalk?
[03:34] <_2> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp bs=2
[03:35] <charims> !swappiness
[03:35] <charims> !kde
[03:35] <writher> Anyone happen to know of any Blu Ray burning application that can actual burn Blu Ray codec video and not just Blu Ray Data (as in Nero 3)?
[03:35] <_2> charims just exeracising the bot ?
[03:36] <ablack7> set up xampp
[03:36] <writher> ablack: are you responding to my question?
[03:37] <ablack7> no thats my question
[03:37] <ablack7> writher. my bad
[03:38] <legodude> what's the question about xampp?
[03:38] <_2> writher i'll respond.   not i!   sorry.
[03:38] <ablack7> im stuck on error
[03:38] <ablack7> -legodude in terminal
[03:38] <legodude> yeah
[03:38] <legodude> which error?
[03:38] <ablack7> cant find the direectory
[03:38] <legodude> ...
[03:38] <ablack7> im in su already
[03:39] <_2> how did you su ?
[03:39] <ablack7> typing in su
[03:39] <ablack7> and my pw
[03:39] <_2> no dash ?
[03:39] <ablack7> im in root
[03:39] <ablack7> that good
[03:39] <_2> no dash ?
[03:39] <ablack7> im still get the same issue
[03:39] <ablack7> no dash
[03:39] <_2> ok.
[03:40] <_2> cause su -   would have moved you to root's home dir.
[03:40] <ablack7> One moment plz
[03:40] <legodude> you're following the directions on the xampp website?
[03:40] <ablack7> yes
[03:40] <legodude> basically just untaring the archive?
[03:40] <ablack7> p
[03:40] <ablack7> yep
[03:40] <legodude> ok
[03:40] <legodude> so you have su-ed
[03:41] <ablack7> yep same thing
[03:41] <legodude> now you are running tar and get an error?
[03:41] <ablack7>  tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz -C /opt
[03:41] <legodude> yup
[03:41] <ablack7> tar: xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[03:41] <ablack7> and three more lines
[03:41] <legodude> okay
[03:41] <legodude> do a ls
[03:41] <legodude> do you see the file?
[03:41] <_2> ah and then you cd /opt/xamp<tab_key>
[03:41] <ablack7> no
[03:42] <legodude> there is your problem
[03:42] <_2> in opt   &
[03:42] <ablack7> ?
[03:42] <_2> note the  -C
[03:42] <ablack7> yes
[03:42] <legodude> its not finding the tarball
[03:42] <_2> man tar for details if you don't  know what -C does.
[03:42] <legodude> you have to change directory to where the tarball is
[03:42] <Pyles17> ablack7: you have to type in the entire path of the file
[03:43] <_2> legodude that's where  -C came in.
[03:43] <ablack7> i thought that was
[03:43] <legodude> whoops
[03:43] <legodude> didn't even see that
[03:43] <ablack7> its going into the /opt
[03:43]  * _2 says it one more time   DASH CAPITAL SEA !    and shuts up.
[03:44] <ablack7> lol
[03:44] <ablack7> any more theories ?
[03:44] <Pyles17> _2: how do you do the action thing?
[03:44]  * _2 says /me did it.
[03:45] <ablack7> any suggestions *_2
[03:45] <ablack7> ?
[03:45]  * Pyles17 says what?
[03:45] <Pyles17> n/m
[03:45] <Pyles17> lol
[03:45] <ablack7> tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz -c /op
[03:45] <_2> ablack7 what error message are you getting    paste it here.
[03:45] <_2> one line only.
[03:45] <ablack7> tried lil c
[03:45] <legodude> no
[03:45] <legodude> it is not finding the tarball
[03:46] <mdowner> WHATS XAMPP
[03:46] <legodude> you have to run that command in the same directory as the tar
[03:46] <legodude> lamp stack
[03:46] <Pyles17> !xampp
[03:46] <ablack7> explain plz
[03:46] <Pyles17> I tried
[03:46] <ablack7> like in /opt
[03:46] <Pyles17> ablack7: i didn't try to explain, that was just unfortunate timing
[03:46] <mdowner> HMM GUESS GOOGLE WILL HAVE THE DEFINITION
[03:47] <ablack7> tried it already Mdowner
[03:47] <legodude> mdowner: lamp stack
[03:47] <legodude> apache, mysql
[03:47] <Pyles17> mdowner: why is everything in caps?
[03:47] <legodude> php
[03:47] <mdowner> IM A NEWBIE TO LINMUX
[03:47] <mdowner> LINUX
[03:47] <mdowner> WHATS LAMP STACK
[03:47] <mdowner> my mistakme
[03:47] <mdowner> mistakme
[03:48] <Pyles17> it's all good
[03:48] <mdowner> mistake
[03:48] <_2> ablack7 find /home -iname 'xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz' -exec tar -xvfz '{}' -C /opt \; && cd /opt
[03:48] <_2> then ls    :)))
[03:49] <legodude> haha
[03:49] <legodude> bit of overkill
[03:49] <ablack7> then what?
[03:49] <ablack7> _2
[03:49] <legodude> you should see the directory
[03:49] <legodude> in /opt
[03:49] <ablack7> tried that before to but have to have permisson to put in opt
[03:49] <_2> he'll be in opt      assuming it exits 0
[03:49] <ablack7> tried drag and exract too
[03:50] <legodude> are you still root?
[03:50] <ablack7> even in root
[03:50] <benbloom> I'm having trouble with some of my .rar archives. sometimes when I use ark it shows just the .rar file to extract from all the components other times all I get is the list of "part"s which I don't want to unarchive individually. any help? should I be using a dif program than ark?
[03:50] <_2> wait.  you said and i quote "<ablack7> typing in su <ablack7> im in root"
[03:50]  * legodude doesn't even know what the purpose of ark files in any more
[03:50] <legodude> er
[03:50] <legodude> rar files
[03:51] <ablack7> yes
[03:51] <ablack7> _@
[03:51] <ablack7> _2
[03:51] <legodude> then how can you have permissions problems?
[03:51] <_2> and you ran my command ?
[03:51] <legodude> ablack7: my suggestion is to first find where you downloaded the file to
[03:51] <ablack7> one moment
[03:52] <ablack7> its in documents
[03:52] <_2> legodude see not over kill   :)
[03:52] <legodude> haha
[03:52] <legodude> okay
[03:52] <benbloom> so legodude Is this a common problem?
[03:52] <legodude> so
[03:52] <ablack7> so can find easy
[03:52] <legodude> what does pwd say?
[03:52] <legodude> benbloom: sorry, I haven't used rar files since floppies
[03:53] <_2> !rar
[03:53] <_2> !unrar
[03:53] <_2> !info unrar-free
[03:53] <ablack7> found the file
[03:53] <cameri> regarding compiz... what's the problem with it? why is it making the desktop hang???/
[03:54] <Pyles17> where did the free (as in speech)/free (as in beer) thing come from
[03:54] <benbloom> thanks _2 I'll look into it
[03:54] <sint_holo> i need to turn the radio power on a bcm43xx in kubuntu 8.10 iwconfig shows device just no power any ideas ?
[03:54] <legodude> Pyles17: difference between free speech, and freely given item (no cost)
[03:54] <legodude> people like beer...
[03:55] <Pyles17> legodude: i know that, i was just wondering how that expression became so popular
[03:55] <legodude> oh
[03:55] <legodude> esr?
[03:55] <_2> Pyles17 it's a simple way to define the differance in "costs no money" and "you own the source code, it's yours and mine and everyone elses, to do with as we choose"
[03:55] <lovre> how do i uninstall software installed via wine??
[03:55] <Pyles17> i understand
[03:56] <legodude> stallman
[03:56] <legodude> maybe
[03:57] <legodude> less pretentious than gratis/libre?
[03:57] <_2> rms who ?
[03:57] <cameri> lovre: Can you locate the Wine folder in your application launcher?
[03:57] <legodude> !!!!
[03:57] <legodude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[03:57] <cameri> There should be a shorcut that says: Uninstall Wine Software
[03:57] <Pyles17> legodude: but pretentiosity is what makes things fun
[03:58] <lovre> cameri: the folder is ~/.wine
[03:58] <_2> Pyles17 that and ^^icro$oft
[03:58] <lovre> cameri: there is not such shortcut
[03:59]  * pyRunner is away: Gone away for now
[03:59] <_2> !away > pyRunner
[03:59] <Pyles17> i see
[04:00] <Pyles17> !away
[04:01] <_2> and putting it in a pm keeps it from scrolling off his screen
[04:01] <Pyles17> yeah, sorry
[04:01] <_2> so when he/she gets back they can read it.
[04:01] <Pyles17> _2: I just wanted to see what it did
[04:01] <mister-tea> what's a noisey away message?
[04:02] <_2> !msgthebot > Pyles17
[04:02] <_2> mister-tea anything that sends to the channel
[04:02] <legodude> mister-tea: a broadcast away message
[04:03] <mister-tea> is mine a broadcast?
[04:03] <_2> havent seen it
[04:03] <mister-tea> then I must be ok then
[04:04] <_2> if not i'll sic the bot on you :)
[04:04]  * mister-tea fears the bot
[04:05] <_2> hmmm brings up question,  does ubottu have magical funny hat   like floodbot*   ?
[04:05] <cameri> lovre: let me see
[04:05] <cameri> lovre: Check out Applications -> Lost & Found
[04:06] <_2> i'm gonna guess that it does, jussi?1 does   so his bots prolly do.
[04:06] <mister-tea> !helpersnack | _2
[04:07] <_2> !botsnack | ubottu
[04:07] <lovre> cameri: that is it. thank you
[04:07] <lovre> camer: why did it go to lost and found...
[04:07] <legodude> bots are such fun
[04:09]  * pyRunner is back.
[04:09] <cameri> lovre: I don't know, but Wine always install there under KDE
[04:09] <_2> back when the bot was young it had lots of useless but really fun infonodes and functions   like  !startan*war   where * might be desktop or editor    and the bot would randomly post something like    jwm is better than gnome     or  jed is better than emacs     respectively
[04:09] <joe-coder> is there any way to get kopete to give me new email notifications?
[04:09] <cameri> I think that in Gnome it had it's own section
[04:10] <cameri> but that's not kde... and I can't help you with that (i'm a new user too :P)
[04:10] <legodude> vim
[04:10] <legodude> rules all
[04:10] <_2> legodude heh.  that's how editor wars start  :)
[04:10] <cameri> legodude, can you say my nick? im trying to see if the highlight will make a sound
[04:10]  * mister-tea likes kate
[04:11] <_2> pico is better than vim
[04:11] <_2> :)))
[04:11] <legodude> cameri:
[04:11] <cameri> thx
[04:11] <legodude> pico is for larve
[04:11] <cameri> hahahaha
[04:11] <cameri> don't take that personally, please
[04:12] <_2> ed is better than kate
[04:12] <_2> oh shoot, now how do i turn that back off....
[04:12] <mister-tea> I know what I like
[04:13] <_2> i think i got it
[04:13] <_2> we'll have to wait an see
[04:13] <_2> emacs is better than vi
[04:13] <_2> guess not.
[04:13] <legodude> thems fightin words
[04:14] <joe-coder> when i search for katapult in adept, i don't get any results.
[04:14] <legodude> you are spelling it wrong?
[04:14] <legodude> katapault?
[04:14] <joe-coder> well, in the add/remove applications
[04:14] <joe-coder> i tried katapault first, but then saw it spelled katapult on a website
[04:14] <legodude> whoops, katapult
[04:14] <legodude> learn something new ever day
[04:14] <_2> emacs is better than vi
[04:14] <joe-coder> i have "Show all available packages" selected
[04:15] <joe-coder> 8.10
[04:15] <_2> uhhh   what?
[04:15] <charims> !katapult
[04:15] <_2> grrr i'll find out how to kill that if i have to restart the computer
[04:15] <JontheEchidna> katapult isn't in Intrepid, though KRunner does about the same thing and it's installed by default
[04:15] <charims> !intrepid
[04:16] <emma> Any opinions on installing firefox in kubuntu?
[04:16] <_2> nano is better than gedit
[04:16] <arsham> hi all
[04:16] <legodude> emma: it made me happy
[04:16] <dwidmann__> emma: what kind of opinions?
[04:16] <emma> _2 well of course better depends on a ot of context. Better for what purpose or what user.
[04:16] <_2> i'm sorry guys.  i'll go figure out how to kill that
[04:16] <joe-coder> emma, I use firefox in kubuntu
[04:17] <_2> emma it's a sctipt
[04:17] <arsham> I just fresh installed, but when I boot I got error 24 from grub
[04:17] <legodude> better for users with good hepatic function
[04:17] <charims> emma:I use firefox in Kubuntu, i just find issues with launching donwloads rather than saving them (it won't open up in any applications)
[04:17] <emma> dwidmann__ legodude I'm torn between (1) Firefox is a better browser (for me) than konqueror is, but (2) If you install firefox in kubuntu you will get a ton of gnome libs.
[04:17] <lovre> cameri: ok thank you
[04:17] <legodude> so?
[04:17] <lovre> bye
[04:17] <legodude> what's wrong with gnome libs?
[04:17] <_2> joe is better than kate
[04:17] <emma> Yeah so i'm not sure if it is a big deal to have lots of gnome libs or if that should not bother me as much as it does.
[04:17] <cameri> lovre: c ya
[04:17] <legodude> I don't think that it should
[04:18] <dwidmann__> emma: swiftweasel is actually a decent option ... can be installed with an apt repository, without the gnome deps
[04:18] <emma> dwidmann__: hm, now that sounds interesting.
[04:18] <charims> !swiftweasel
[04:18] <emma> is it different than iceweasel?
[04:18] <emma> !info swiftweasel
[04:18] <emma> !info iceweasel
[04:18]  * pyRunner is away: bye
[04:19] <emma> i guess it's not in universe
[04:19] <dwidmann__> swiftweasel = optimized recompiles of them ... it's a third party repo
[04:19] <emma> hm.
[04:19] <dwidmann__> http://swiftweasel.tuxfamily.org/
[04:19] <emma> dwidmann__: what would be cool is if someone into kde would make a repo with a firefox made for KDE.
[04:20] <emma> imagine a qt based firefox ♥
[04:20] <dwidmann__> emma: such a thing may in fact be in the works
[04:20] <legodude> what's wrong with firefox as is?
[04:20] <emma> dwidmann__: so it seemed for a while there.
[04:20] <dwidmann__> emma: I recall nokia working on something like that
[04:20] <emma> legodude: If you install firefox from the ubuntu repos you will get a ton of GNOME libs.
[04:20] <legodude> other than it doesn't use KDE common dialogs
[04:20] <legodude> emma: but what is wrong with that?
[04:21] <emma> if you run GNOME lib apps in KDE the first such ap will hurt your RAM.
[04:21]  * pyRunner is back.
[04:21] <legodude> sure
[04:21] <legodude> so you lose extra 30mb
[04:21] <emma> As soon as you start a GNOME lib app in KDE you will start lots of GNOME processes.
[04:22] <emma> I'm not one of these people that's antagonistic about other DEs believe me. I used GNOME for the last 10 months. I rather like GNOME. When I used GNOME I was not thrilled about putting KDE apps on it for the same reason.
[04:23] <emma> I could be wrong though. I don't want to be stuck in an irrational rut, but somehow psychologically I like to keep stuff pure.
[04:23] <legodude> yeah
[04:23] <legodude> I think you should work on that
[04:23] <legodude> it is kind of limiting
[04:23] <legodude> and borderline bizarre
[04:23] <lovre> i have another problem :( some flash files are not working in firefox. for example when i go to www.southparkstudios.com and try to watch an episode, i just get nothing, blank. Why is this?
[04:24] <charims> ou may be using the open source version of flash, though it is frowned upon, i use flashplugin-nonfree
[04:24] <emma> I think he/she is using flashplugin-nonfree as well since yesterday they installed kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:25] <lovre> charims: how do i change to that?
[04:25] <emma> lovre: I probably cannot help but out of curiosity could you post a link to the site in question so I can see if I can view the medium?
[04:25] <lovre> emma:  i did install restricted extras..
[04:26] <emma> lovre: yes I know that's what I was telling him.
[04:26] <emma> I think flashplugin-nonfree comes in kubuntu-restricted-extras doesn't it?
[04:26] <charims> lovre: you should remove whatever you have installed for flash using the software package manager, and then install Kubuntu-resrticted-extras
[04:26] <lovre> emma: this is what i cant see: http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/164365
[04:26] <legodude_> grrrr
[04:26] <legodude_> kernel panic
[04:27] <emma> charims: he/she has installed kubuntu-restricted-extras (lowercase k)
[04:27] <lovre> emma: can you view this: http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/164365
[04:28] <charims> emma: wait, the resricted package installs a macromedia shockwave player, not adobe flash, If i'm not mistaken
[04:28] <mister-tea> ican
[04:28] <legodude_> flash is really hit or miss for me
[04:28] <wtffff> help!!!
[04:29] <emma> for the adobe flash I would go directly to their site and get the ubuntu .deb and have Gdebi install it.
[04:29] <wtffff> i have 3 tv cards.. after booting up in kubuntu, /dev/video0 /dev/video1 /dev/video2 is okayy..but the audio has only /dev/dsp , /dev/dsp1 , /dev/dsp2 .. and its not working!
[04:29] <emma> I think Gdebi is in kubuntu too.
[04:29] <mister-tea> emma that one didn't work for me
[04:30] <wtffff> it suppose to be /dev/dsp0 dsp1 and dsp2........?
[04:30] <wtffff> [   37.364601] saa7133[0]: registered device dsp0
[04:30] <wtffff> [   37.364613] saa7133[0]: registered device mixer0
[04:30] <wtffff> [   37.364698] saa7133[1]: registered device dsp1
[04:30] <wtffff> [   37.364708] saa7133[1]: registered device mixer1
[04:30] <wtffff> [   37.364807] saa7133[2]: registered device dsp2
[04:30] <wtffff> [   37.364816] saa7133[2]: registered device mixer2
[04:30] <emma> mister-tea: maybe you run 64 bit kubuntu?
[04:30] <mister-tea> no
[04:30] <wtffff> dmesg say this, but /dev/dsp* shows another thing!
[04:30] <wtffff> helpp
[04:30] <mike__> I want to see youtube with konqueror.......
[04:30] <emma> Adobe only has 32 bit flash player
[04:30] <lovre> emma: i just did that, downloaded from adobe, installed, and nothing, i still cant view the movie. The same thing on gnome worked fine.... any other idea?
[04:30] <mike__> I can't
[04:30] <lovre> emma: you didnt answer can you see the movie?
[04:30] <emma> lovre: are you getting a black screen with the flash swirl?
[04:30] <emma> lovre: not yet no.
[04:30] <mister-tea> I JUST INSTALLED FLASHPLAYER NON FREE ..IT WORKS FINE
[04:31] <emma> I'm getting a black screen but with the flash swirl as if it is loading the movie.
[04:31] <mister-tea> sorry hit caps lock
[04:31] <lovre> emma: i get a black screen, yes
[04:31] <emma> do you get the flash swirly thing?
[04:31] <lovre> emma: no
[04:32] <lovre> this sux
[04:32] <emma> Nope I'm not sure.
[04:32] <mike__> CIAO!
[04:33] <lovre> on this page, i get the flash loading screen, says Loading, but it never does, just stays like that
[04:33] <lovre> http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/209726/
[04:33] <mister-tea> I can view it
[04:34] <lovre> :(
[04:34] <lovre> mister-tea: do you have firefox 3.0.3 on kubuntu 8.10?
[04:34] <mister-tea> when I installed from the adobe web site it looked for a file not used in the new f
[04:34] <mister-tea> f
[04:34] <Pyles17> seriously, this is getting ridiculous. I installed the driver for my wireless card and it still comes back UNCLAIMED
[04:34] <mike__> I can't view it with konqueror
[04:35] <mike__> why?
[04:35] <lovre> in konqueror i get the swirly thingy, and it never loads
[04:35] <mister-tea> Pyles17: can you see the module?
[04:36] <Pyles17> mister-tea: in lshw -C network it shows up
[04:37] <Pyles17> mister-tea: it just says UNCLAIMED, which i think means it doesn't have the driver
[04:37] <wtffff> ????????????
[04:38] <mister-tea> what is the card
[04:38] <Pyles17> Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
[04:38] <wtffff> can anyone help me with the dsp assignment?
[04:38] <mister-tea> k brb
[04:39] <dwidmann__> Pyles17: should use iwl3945 ... it's native
[04:39] <dwidmann__> (driver, that is)
[04:40] <Pyles17> dwidmann__: I'm using the iwlwifi-3945, i'm not sure if it's the same thing
[04:40] <joe-coder> is katapult not in kde4?
[04:41] <dwidmann__> joe-coder: right ... apparently the lead developer though krunner was headed in the right direction and would soon surpass katapult anyway ...
[04:42] <dwidmann__> joe-coder: you could change the shortcut from alt+f2 and see for yourself i you want
[04:42] <dwidmann__> (it certainly isn't on par with katapult though ... in my opinion)
[04:44] <lovre> i need a web proxy that is located in united states.. anyone know of a good one?
[04:46]  * legodude_ hates geo-restrictions
[04:53] <Pyles17> okay i'm back
[04:54] <mister-tea> Pyles17:  I did my best google-fu and found others have had simaler problems there is a specific link in the ubuntu forums but the frums are down right now
[04:55] <Pyles17> mister-tea: thanks for trying. I'll figure it out eventually :-) unfortunately it means I have to use windows much more than I would like
[04:55] <windfield> i have a problem with installing ubuntu
[04:55] <mister-tea> I read about kernel dependancies and startup daemons
[04:55] <windfield> please help
[04:56] <mister-tea> !ask
[04:56] <charims> windfield: what is your problem?
[04:56] <windfield> after i installed kubuntu there is an error message when it boots
[04:56] <windfield> its grub error 25
[04:57] <charims> windfield:what is your error message?
[04:57] <charims> windfield: ok
[04:57] <charims> windfield: hold on
[04:57] <windfield> its dual boot
[04:57] <windfield> one is xp and the other one is kubuntu 8.04 in another hard disk
[04:57] <windfield> how do i fix this?
[04:59] <charims> windfield: this sounds like your menu.lst file in /boot is messed up
[04:59] <windfield> how did that happen?
[04:59] <windfield> is there something wrong with the partitioning?
[05:00] <charims> not sure, it seems more likely that grub was installed improperly, maybe if you were to pop in the livecd, and re-install grub
[05:01] <windfield> i did that in the konsole
[05:01] <windfield> i installed grub
[05:01] <windfield> but same thing happened
[05:01] <knic> I did an update and now all my kde settings got defaulted, I was wondering what file I should restore to have my the correct number of virtual desktops and the right key bindgins
[05:01] <knic> grumble I am never upgrading while in a kde session again
[05:01] <charims> windfield: are you installing it to the MBR?
[05:02] <White_Pelican> I came late, windfield, what's the issue?
[05:03] <windfield> yes
[05:03] <windfield> should i re-install kubuntu again?
[05:04] <charims> windfield: you could try that, be sure to reformat your root partition. As long as you have nothing to lose by it.
[05:05] <charims> windfield: grub error 25 is a disk read error, maybe your hard drive has gone bad (not so likely) or for some reason it cannot recognize your partition.
[05:06] <windfield> i installed kubuntu like 3 times already.
[05:06] <windfield> same thing happens
[05:06] <charims> windfield: ok, than doing it again will probably not help.
[05:06] <White_Pelican> what version of kubuntu?
[05:06] <windfield> 8.04
[05:06] <windfield> is there any way to fix it in Konsole
[05:07] <charims> windfield: it suggests to me that maybe your grub is not able to access your /boot directory. Though other than that, I'm not sure I can be much help.
[05:07] <Makuseru> Does anyone know of any programs that will let me hardsub a video file?
[05:08] <windfield> so should i use other bootloader instead
[05:09] <charims> windfield: not sure, like i said, i'm not sure i can help much. I did look it up in the grub documentation. "25 : Disk read error    This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to probe or read data from a particular disk.
[05:10] <charims> windfield: is the disk sata or pata(ide)
[05:10] <windfield> no idea
[05:10] <charims> windfield: did you install the drive yourself?
[05:11] <windfield> i don't know if its sata. but i'm the one who installed the hard drive
[05:12] <charims> windfield: did you plug in two small cables, or one large(very wide) and one small?
[05:13] <windfield> yes
[05:13] <charims> windfiled: which one?
[05:13] <charims> windfield: which one?
[05:15] <dotzzz> hi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help
[05:15] <dotzzz>  is it some modules i didn't load?
[05:15] <windfield> i think it's PATA
[05:16] <windfield> but how does that gonna matter?
[05:16] <charims> windfield: A serial ata, or Sata drive may have difficulty with speeds with which it communicates with your PC, you may have to locate the user manual to modify a jumper setting. A IDE(PATA, Parallel) will have a jumper setting for master, slave, or cableselect. Either way, you may have to set up the jumpers properly.
[05:17] <windfield> so is the problem in my hard disk?
[05:17] <charims> windfield: Not sure if that is the problem, but it is an option. Other than that, you may have a faulty cable to the hard drive(unlikely, as you were able to install to the drive)
[05:18] <charims> windfield: not necessarily that your hard disk is causing the problem, but that GRUB in unable to access it for some reason
[05:19] <windfield> what about with the windows bootloader?
[05:19] <windfield> will it work?
[05:20] <charims> windfield: When Kubuntu is installed, it will set GRUB up for an option to boot either windows or Kubuntu. the issu is that GRUB cannot load your boot loader configuration, and therefore cannot boot into any operationg system
[05:20] <charims> windfield: you can restore your windows boot loader with your windows disk
[05:21] <charims> windfield: but you cannot boot into linux from the windows boot loader (except i think i remember that vista can do it if set up properly using a bootloader modifying utility)
[05:22] <windfield> i can't dual boot with ntdlr? how about Lilo?
[05:23] <charims> windifled: As far as I know, LILO is no longer supported, though yu are welcome to try it. I think you should really focus on why GRUb isn't able to access your drive. You should proboly see someone else about that though, I'm afraid i have met my limit of knowledge.
[05:23] <mr---t-> I dual boot with grub
[05:24] <windfield> that's ok thnx for the help though
[05:24] <charims> windfield: No problem. :) Good luck. I do hope you find out why GRUB is having issues.
[05:24] <charims> !grub
[05:24] <mr---t-> windows mbr must be set up first fot it to work
[05:25] <charims> mr---t: i think his issue is that grub is giving him an error when he boots, error 25, disk read error, so it cannot acces his configuration to boot him into any OS.
[05:26] <windfield> ubottu i already did that restore mbr and reinstall grub but same thing happens there is still error
[05:26] <mr---t-> right but what I'm saying is he jas to probably fix windows first
[05:27] <charims> Windfield is having grub issues, Error 25 on boot (disk read error) is anyone able to help?
[05:27] <windfield> mr t there's nothing wrong with windows i guess.
[05:27] <charims> windfield: ubottu is a bot, it responds to messages beginning with an !
[05:28] <charims> !ubottu
[05:28] <dotzzz> hi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help
[05:29] <mr---t-> can you boot to windows?
[05:29] <windfield> yes
[05:29] <mr---t-> k
[05:29] <windfield> after i did fixmbr
[05:29] <charims> windfield: I suggest you should state your question completely, along with the error, until you get help, but do not be impatient. someone will come along that can help. I must go. :) Have a good night.
[05:29] <mr---t-> then reinstalled grub?
[05:30] <windfield> thank you
[05:30] <charims> Good night everyone!
[05:30] <charims> !bye
[05:30] <windfield> when i reinstalled grub there is error msg
[05:30] <windfield> its error 25
[05:31] <dotzzz> hi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help
[05:33] <kevbuntu> hey, how come i can't find Skype in Adept Manager in Kubuntu-8.04??
[05:36] <mr---t-> winfield here is a link to the definitions of grub errors http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2-errors
[05:37] <emma> dwidmann: what is katapult?
[05:37] <mr---t-> !skype
[05:37] <dotzzz> hi i have 3 tv cards.. all /dev/video0 video1 video2 are working.. but the sounds are not working.. there are no /dev/dsp0 .. only /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 and dsp2...why is that so? can anyone help
[05:38] <mr---t-> I'm out night all
[05:44] <kevbuntu> thanks man
[05:49] <windfield> how do i fix grub error 25 after i installed kubuntu 8.04?
[05:54] <corinth> How can I get Dolphin to remember window size after closing in KDE 4.1.2?
[05:55] <corinth> (Using Kubuntu 8.10)
[06:03] <VicTheHunter> ﻿﻿Hello, I don't want to uninstall compiz, but how do I quit it from running during this desktop session?
[06:04] <bilicki> when i try to intall the ati drivers from the gui, nothing happens... it just says "downloading and installing driver.." and the bar is at 0%
[06:05] <emilsedgh> VicTheHunter: kwin --replace
[06:05] <bazhang> alt f2 kwin --replace VicTheHunter
[06:05] <kkathman> VicTheHunter:  open ksysguard with kdesu, then kill all the compiz things also
[06:05] <kkathman> if you dont kill compiz, you'll experience video artifacts
[06:07] <VicTheHunter> kwin --replace seems to have done the job.  How does it work?
[06:08] <bazhang> VicTheHunter, you did with alt f2 or terminal
[06:08] <kkathman> VicTheHunter:  are you using multiple desktops ??
[06:09] <kkathman> you still may need to kill the compiz agents, hopefully you wont...I had to, after speaking with KDE devs over the weekend
[06:13] <corinth> How can I get Dolphin to remember window size after closing in KDE 4.1.2?
[06:14] <VicTheHunter> I opened a terminal, and typed kwin --replace
[06:14] <corinth> What desktop/OS are you using, VicTheHunter?
[06:15] <VicTheHunter> ﻿corinth, I'm using KDE on Ubuntu 8.04
[06:15]  * corinth blinks
[06:17] <corinth> You should be able to turn it off or on permanatly using the Desktop Effects tool. It's in the repos, VicTheHunter
[06:20] <VicTheHunter> ﻿corinth, Repos> do you mean repositories?
[06:22] <corinth> VicTheHunter: Yes.
[06:22] <corinth> Just search for Desktop Effects, and install the Kubuntu version (If it's not already installed, it may be)
[06:25] <VicTheHunter> ﻿corinth, Ok, Thank very much for your assistance!
[06:26] <VicTheHunter> I like the compiz effects, but my PC performance suffers noticeably while it is running.
[06:26] <VicTheHunter> That's just a comment.
[06:30] <creative> hello, ive downloaded kubuntu but when i try to boot i just get a black screen with turned off monitor (ati radeon x1600)
[06:32] <CourtJesterG> OK WHAT IS EXACTLY KATE IS IT A COMPILER CAUSE THATS NOT WHAT I AM FEELING WHEN SKIMMING THROUGH THE HELP PAGES
[06:32] <CourtJesterG> sry caps
[06:34] <CourtJesterG> ok this chat channel officail sucks balls barely nobody answers any questions and when they do they just refer you bs i say
[06:34] <bazhang> CourtJesterG, please watch the language
[06:34] <bazhang> !info kate
[06:35] <CourtJesterG> i didn't curse so don't tell me to watch my language
[06:35] <stdin> CourtJesterG: watch your attitude in here
[06:35] <stdin> !guidelines
[06:36] <CourtJesterG> so back to my question it is jsut a text editor for viewing and such but not a compiler i unddderstand GCC is one but i also heard at the linux site g++ is one aalso there is a graphical one of sorts for kde in adept what do you reccomened?
[06:37] <stdin> kate isn't a compiler, it can be used to compile stuff. as it has a built-in shell and syntax highlighting. But for a real IDE try KDevelop
[06:38] <CourtJesterG> ok thanks
[06:39] <stdin> oh, and g++ and gcc are the same thing (generally). gcc is  for C, g++ is for C++
[06:44] <CourtJesterG> another question one reason why i am asking besides i am going to start refreshing my self with development in ccertain project areas. I click on an agree button to enter an online game through a site it kicked back at me a .php file with my information at it something you nornally don't   see in windows and kate opned it up but of course it didn't start the game
[06:46] <CourtJesterG> so any idea how i am suppose to use this .php file to get to playing my online game?
[06:47] <CourtJesterG> i already know about wine used it to run the .exe to install the game on the machine but you still have to enter it through the site after pressing the agree button
[06:48] <CourtJesterG> anybody?
[06:48] <stdin> CourtJesterG: that's a bug in their website and konqueror. the easiest fix is to use another browser such as firefox
[06:49] <stdin> they tell konqueror the data is plain text, even though it's not
[06:49] <CourtJesterG> cool i already have firefox with the replacement extendion thought i tryed it will try again
[06:50] <CourtJesterG> that is good though for konqueror they gave me a piece of data i never seen before i would like to take this game apart and remake it totally new
[07:02] <sorush20> Hi all I have a motherboard that has the time set to one hour earilier that the os. When I setup kde to update with ntp.uwe.ac.uk it works but after a  reboot this time setting is lost and the time changes back to the motherboard time again. How do I make the time update with ntp.uwe.ac.uk automatically everytime kde start with out making a manual script?
[07:06] <stdin> sorush20: edit /etc/default/ntpdate and it should run whenever your network comes up automatically
[07:11] <sorush20> stdin: is that a bug cause its too manual..
[07:12] <stdin> sorush20: there's probably a GUI for it in system settings somewhere
[07:12] <sorush20> stdin: FYI I don't have a file called /etc/ntp.conf  is that a problem .. I've made the changes .. hope it worked next time I start
[07:12] <sorush20> stdin: I know how to do that but the time change doesn't remain when I restart.
[07:13] <stdin> sorush20: the app "ntpdate-debian" should run when your network comes up. ran from /etc/default/ntpdate. ntpdate-debian reads /etc/default/ntpdate by default
[07:14] <josramirobv> Excuse me, speak spanish ???
[07:14] <stdin> !es | josramirobv
[07:14] <josramirobv> Buenas Noches
[07:16] <stephan> Hi i am having troubles getting kubuntu to recognize my Wifi any suggestions?
[07:21] <ptl> no suggestions besides "upgrade to the latest level"
[07:27] <stephan> ok I went to the apt updater and APT Database could not be opened
[07:28] <stephan> adept*
[07:37] <Trustn01> were can i get server help
[07:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, can't get my sound files/mp3 to play on any of the players, i've xine, audacious, audacity, amarok, vlc, and they just get stuck or crash if i click on any of the files
[07:39] <CourtJesterG> HAS EVERYONE noticed amarok isn't up to date?
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> i opened a file with vlc
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> but theres no sound
[07:41] <CourtJesterG> so why doesn't it show the up to date verison in adept? when the site has a newer version?
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> even though it looks as tho it was playing
[07:41] <Trustn01> i need help on sql and freeradius
[07:43] <CourtJesterG> this keeps up just might take everything out of the computer and do a search on the interentt with out resporiarters
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> CourtJesterG: what's out of date?
[07:49] <CourtJesterG> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Kubuntu
[07:49] <CourtJesterG> Development version: Amarok 2.0.0 Beta 3 (1.94)
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> no, that's the latest *beta*
[07:50] <CourtJesterG> the version adept has say 1.4.10 using kde 3.5.10
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> not the latest version of amarok
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> the latest version of amarok IS 1.4.10
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using hardy or intrepid?
[07:51] <CourtJesterG> lolhow they jump from 1.4.10 too 2.0.0?
[07:52] <Daisuke_Ido> CourtJesterG: how does anything go from one major version to another?
[07:52] <CourtJesterG> not sure my self how do i check if i am useing hardy or intrepid?
[07:52] <Daisuke_Ido> lsb_release -a
[07:53] <CourtJesterG> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[07:53] <CourtJesterG> Description:    Ubuntu 8.10
[07:53] <CourtJesterG> Release:        8.10
[07:53] <CourtJesterG> Codename:       intrepid
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> just needed intrepid :)
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know if beta 3 has made it into intrepid yet, let me look
[07:54] <CourtJesterG> you know why is it called Ubuntu when its called Kubuntu i mean why still use the name Ubuntu if it really wants to fork off?
[07:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not a fork, just ubuntu with kde
[07:54] <CourtJesterG> so i got the mac version which i like
[07:55] <CourtJesterG> i got this kitten running around my windows its white trys to talk but doesn't say anything lol
[07:55] <CourtJesterG> its like my personal friend
[07:55] <CourtJesterG> lol
[07:56] <CourtJesterG> so what s the differeence between intrepid and hardy just a version name?
[07:57] <CourtJesterG> nevermind i think i am getting tired lol
[08:19] <courtjesterg> who said kdevelop was a compiler? I am reading wikipedia righ tnow
[08:19] <courtjesterg> KDevelop is a free software integrated development environment for the KDE desktop environment for Unix-like computer operating systems. KDevelop does not include a compiler; instead, it uses an external compiler such as gcc to produce executable code.
[08:19] <courtjesterg> The current version, 3.5, supports many programming languages such as Ada, Bash, C, C++, Fortran, Java, Pascal, Perl, PHP, Python and Ruby. Released under the GNU General Public License, KDevelop is free software.
[08:21] <courtjesterg> it sounds like anohtter text editor and you have to download gcc to compiler then code lies all lies
[08:21] <courtjesterg> i know kate hasa  pluin for kdeveloper
[08:22] <RandyCalifornia> hello!
[08:36] <courtjesterg> hi
[08:36] <courtjesterg> ahoy
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> hello!
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> how are you?
[08:41] <RandyCalifornia> ...........................
[08:41] <RandyCalifornia> ?
[08:41]  * dwidmann yawns
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> yawns?
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> why?
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> so, what's going on?
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> what is this IRC thing?
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> ??
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> ????
[08:47] <dwidmann> RandyCalifornia: late at night ... not many people around
[08:49] <RandyCalifornia> oh....
[08:49] <RandyCalifornia> I see
[08:49] <szrhawaii> hello anyone home
[08:49] <RandyCalifornia> hellp srzhawaii
[08:49] <szrhawaii> does anyone know what i need to download to get amarok to play all audio files
[08:50] <Colonel_Panic> hey can anyone help ,e with a wine question?
[08:50] <Colonel_Panic> *me*
[08:50] <Colonel_Panic> I'm trying to install the .NET framework
[08:50] <RandyCalifornia> hmm...
[08:50] <RandyCalifornia> let me see....
[08:50] <szrhawaii> wine is for people who couldnt severe the tie from windows
[08:50] <RandyCalifornia> oh!
[08:50] <RandyCalifornia> I know this one
[08:50] <RandyCalifornia> go to adept manager
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> and type "xine"
[08:51] <szrhawaii> that would be my guess on that
[08:51] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: installing libxine1-ffmpeg I think
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> then, install xine
[08:51] <Colonel_Panic> I have to run this shitty-ass Win32 app so I have no choice
[08:51] <szrhawaii> that sucks
[08:51] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: trying, not succeeding?
[08:51] <szrhawaii> ok ill check xine
[08:51] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: installing libxine1-ffmpeg I think
[08:51] <Colonel_Panic> WINE not XINE
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> I always try to install wine, but it says it's broken
[08:52] <szrhawaii> if your talking about the player i dont like xine
[08:52] <Colonel_Panic> XINE is a movie player
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> yes
[08:52] <szrhawaii> im talking to someone else colonel
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> and in order to play
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> audio files in amarok
[08:52] <Colonel_Panic> I'm talking about WINE, the Win32 emulator
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> you have to install xine
[08:52] <szrhawaii> but i dont want that player i like my other player
[08:52] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: amarok uses xine. Dot.
[08:52] <yudi> i'm beginner in linux
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> because it uses xine libraries
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> or somethinh like that
[08:53] <szrhawaii> ok ill use dwidmanns theory and do the lib file
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> so.... install it and you'll be able to play audio files in amarok
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> :(
[08:53] <courtjesterg> what is xine?
[08:54] <szrhawaii> i just dont want the player that comes with it
[08:54] <courtjesterg> no i got one how come dragon doeswork?
[08:54] <RandyCalifornia> xine is a media player
[08:54] <courtjesterg> i tryed playing a movie and no meda installed after i already downloadded it
[08:54] <courtjesterg> does it work
[08:54] <RandyCalifornia> yes
[08:55] <szrhawaii> i had my amarok working great before i just forgot what i didn
[08:55] <szrhawaii> it played all files mp3,mp4 everything
[08:55] <courtjesterg> but maybe i want to use dragon how can i use dragon i like the name and it was already installed standard
[08:55] <Colonel_Panic> so I'm guessing nobody in here nkows what the hell I'm talking about?
[08:55] <dwidmann> courtjesterg: just open a video or audio file with it.
[08:56] <szrhawaii> its still saying some media cant be loaded
[08:56] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: what does appdb.winehq.org say about it?
[08:56] <courtjesterg> i was on the internet looking up porn you can say pressed open and it wouldn't open the movie
[08:56] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:56] <courtjesterg> no media it says
[08:56] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: did you quit and restart amarok?
[08:56] <RandyCalifornia> porn?
[08:56] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[08:56] <Colonel_Panic> I followed the instructions but it doesn't seem to work at all
[08:56] <courtjesterg> its an example
[08:56] <szrhawaii> im doing that right now i forgot to
[08:56] <courtjesterg> ;)
[08:56] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: what version of wine were they using?
[08:56] <szrhawaii> there it is yay
[08:57] <Colonel_Panic> 1.1.something
[08:57] <szrhawaii> thanks dwimann
[08:57] <Colonel_Panic> I have 1.1.8
[08:57] <courtjesterg> colonel you have to add it to the applications list
[08:57] <courtjesterg> here let me check my settings
[08:57] <szrhawaii> wine sucks
[08:57] <szrhawaii> lol
[08:57] <Colonel_Panic> applications list?
[08:58] <courtjesterg> ok go to config wine
[08:58] <Colonel_Panic> ok there
[08:58] <courtjesterg> in graphics check everything and put in your screen size
[08:58] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: considering that they had to reverse engineer practically everything, wine works surprisingly well
[08:58] <szrhawaii> did they get the bugs out yet
[08:58] <courtjesterg> in application settings there is where you have to add the program you want to use
[08:59] <courtjesterg> i used it to run an .exe install
[08:59] <Colonel_Panic> yeah I see it
[08:59] <szrhawaii> i know when i used it a few months ago it was still giving the system problems
[08:59] <courtjesterg> it worked
[08:59] <szrhawaii> i just stopped using windows products all together
[08:59] <Colonel_Panic> Most of the stuff I use it for
[08:59] <Colonel_Panic> Wine works great for all the stuff I use it for
[08:59] <courtjesterg> yeah well my game is i guess not built for windows
[08:59] <Colonel_Panic> OK yeah, the applicaiotn settings
[09:00] <courtjesterg> unless anyone know how to convert an .exe install newbiee people
[09:00] <szrhawaii> what you using wine for
[09:00] <Colonel_Panic> I have to add the .NET app I want to run in there?
[09:00] <szrhawaii> just get the converters on adept manager and your goo
[09:00] <szrhawaii> d
[09:00] <courtjesterg> i used to learn how to program in borlans c and c++
[09:00] <szrhawaii> for most things
[09:00] <Colonel_Panic> szrhawaii: random shit
[09:00] <courtjesterg> really
[09:00] <szrhawaii> yeah i know
[09:00] <szrhawaii> huh
[09:00] <courtjesterg> there is converters
[09:00] <courtjesterg> hmm
[09:00] <Colonel_Panic> Photoshop, some games...
[09:00] <szrhawaii> just random
[09:01] <Colonel_Panic> a few things
[09:01] <Colonel_Panic> I don'
[09:01] <Colonel_Panic> tt use it often
[09:01] <Colonel_Panic> OK I need to add the application in there, right?
[09:01] <szrhawaii> i meant for most files you can use converters
[09:02] <courtjesterg> ok looking at KCachegrind in development
[09:02] <Mo0oSaH> how do you add your own feeds to aRSS?
[09:02] <courtjesterg> so what is the excutable for linux?
[09:02] <courtjesterg> named?
[09:03] <Colonel_Panic> OK I've added the applicaiotn to the Application Settings list
[09:03] <Colonel_Panic> now what settings do I have to change for it?
[09:03] <courtjesterg> ok make sure you check everything in graphics and set your screen size also the options in audio
[09:04] <courtjesterg> then when done go to use wine regularly
[09:04] <Colonel_Panic> those aren't the problems
[09:04] <Colonel_Panic> the problem is, it's an app that requires the .NET Framework to run, and I can't install the damn .NEt Framework
[09:05] <wisthler_> bonjour
[09:05] <courtjesterg> you have to it makes a virtual desktop temporaly to run those windows programs thats why you have to set the graphic user interface audio is jsut in case
[09:05] <Colonel_Panic> ...
[09:05] <Colonel_Panic> I need to get .NEt installed
[09:05] <Colonel_Panic> or the app won't run
[09:05] <courtjesterg> thats why it makes a false c virtual drive
[09:05] <Colonel_Panic> and I have been trying to install.NET but it won't work
[09:06] <courtjesterg> well jsut tell you how i got my .exe installed
[09:06] <Colonel_Panic> the C drive is a directory in my .wine dir
[09:06] <courtjesterg> any other way i was stuck at a black screen and haveing to restart
[09:07] <Colonel_Panic> that's not the problem I'm having
[09:07] <Colonel_Panic> I unbderstand that yo have to run setup.exe files in a virtual desktop
[09:07] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: what version of the .net framework are you trying to install? 3.5? 3.0? 2.0? 1.1? 1.0?
[09:07] <Colonel_Panic> I know about that
[09:08] <Colonel_Panic> I have tried to install 1.1 and 2.0
[09:08] <courtjesterg> just look i got internet exploer installed ack
[09:08] <courtjesterg> its in wine
[09:08] <Colonel_Panic> 2.0 is the most recent, isn't it?
[09:08] <szrhawaii> hey court did you check mscompress
[09:09] <courtjesterg> let me see
[09:09] <Colonel_Panic> anyway, this program is a standalone app. It doesn't require installation
[09:09] <Colonel_Panic> but it relies on the .NEt runtime dlls
[09:10] <Colonel_Panic> which I don't have, because every time I try to install .NET Framework according to the instructions on the WineHQ website, the .NET installer quits with an error
[09:10] <courtjesterg> i didn't see mscompress anywhere in wine options
[09:10] <szrhawaii> no in adept manager
[09:10] <szrhawaii> my bad
[09:10] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: Hmm, 2.0, (not 2.0 sp1) should work ...
[09:10] <Colonel_Panic> uh yeah
[09:10] <dwidmann> assuming this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3754
[09:11] <Colonel_Panic> I believe it should
[09:11] <Colonel_Panic> but it keeps crashing on me
[09:11] <Colonel_Panic> yo know what?
[09:11] <Colonel_Panic> Fuck it.
[09:11] <gh> How does one connect to the internet using 8.10? I have never been able to connect using kde4 including 8.04 kde4. However, both kubuntu 8.04 and ubuntu 8.10 connect very simple. My setup is very simple, but after using knetworkmanager nothing happens. When I add connections they never.. connect. I can redo it 10 times with the same results.
[09:11] <courtjesterg> where in adept is mscompress?
[09:11] <Colonel_Panic> I have an old Windows laptop around here somewhere
[09:11] <szrhawaii> as per your exe file stuff you should type in exe and find a program in adept manager to see what it offers for writable executables
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> I'll just run the damn program on that machine
[09:12] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: I frequently come to that conclusion (well, not the windows one, the line before that)
[09:12] <szrhawaii> type it on the search tool
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> well, this is an encryption/archive program that's not available for Linux as far as I know
[09:12] <dwidmann> !info mscompress | courtjesterg
[09:13] <szrhawaii> hey why is anti virus xp 2008 such a mean ass virus
[09:14] <szrhawaii> that thing is really good at infecting machines right now running windows
[09:14] <szrhawaii> products
[09:14] <szrhawaii> has anyone got that on windows yet
[09:14] <gh> I am installing it via media/cd not upgrading via dist-upgrade
[09:14] <dwidmann> !windows
[09:14] <szrhawaii> im just asking if you seen it before
[09:15] <RandyCalifornia> hey!
[09:15] <courtjesterg> i browsed for mscompressed came up none
[09:15] <courtjesterg> mscompress
[09:15] <RandyCalifornia> isthere support
[09:15] <dwidmann> Hmm, I don't think I've booted Windows since I finished FEAR: Perseus Mandate
[09:15] <szrhawaii> its mscompress
[09:15] <RandyCalifornia> for rmvb files
[09:16] <szrhawaii> not compressed
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> on Kubuntu?
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> PPC?
[09:16] <gh> With previous versions it was simple to connect the machince but with kde4 knetworkmanager doesn't actually do anything but display an icon?
[09:16] <szrhawaii> who likes ubuntu better
[09:16] <szrhawaii> or i should say gnome
[09:16] <gh> I can connect the box with ubuntu
[09:16] <szrhawaii> has anyone tried xfce
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> I like kubuntu better
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> xfce is good
[09:16] <courtjesterg> still not showing up
[09:16] <Colonel_Panic> gnomes are creatures that Robert Plant likes to sing about
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> but not for me :D
[09:17] <Colonel_Panic> I prefer KDE
[09:17] <Colonel_Panic> actually, I really used to like Enlightenment
[09:17] <szrhawaii> i heard if your running atis its better to run kde or myth
[09:17] <szrhawaii> which runs a xfce base
[09:17] <courtjesterg> what is mscompress for?
[09:17] <szrhawaii> i heard enlightenment is good too
[09:18] <Colonel_Panic> Enlightenment used to be a beautiful WM
[09:18] <Colonel_Panic> so simple
[09:18] <Colonel_Panic> no bullshitr
[09:18] <Colonel_Panic> I kinda miss it
[09:18] <szrhawaii> yeah well kubuntu is fairly easy once you figure out where everything is
[09:18] <Colonel_Panic> somebody ought to put together an Ubuntu distro with Enlightenment
[09:19] <szrhawaii> probably
[09:19] <Colonel_Panic> have any of you tried Xubuntu?
[09:19]  * dwidmann likes flluxbox
[09:19] <szrhawaii> i tried it
[09:19] <szrhawaii> for a minute
[09:19] <szrhawaii> it was really basic
[09:20] <szrhawaii> it looked like windows 98
[09:20] <Colonel_Panic> I used to use fluxbox
[09:20] <gh> thanks for the lack of help
[09:20] <Colonel_Panic> on Gentoo, like 3 years ago
[09:21] <Colonel_Panic> gh: what's your problem?
[09:21] <Colonel_Panic> bah
[09:21] <Colonel_Panic> whatevah
[09:21] <courtjesterg> mscompress?
[09:21] <szrhawaii> gh your having the same problem i had earlier with my friends comp
[09:22] <szrhawaii> is your toggle not working
[09:22] <szrhawaii> or does your wireless on but its not connecting to the software
[09:22] <szrhawaii> or is your wireless on and not connecting to the software
[09:22] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: if you haven't noticed, gh left.
[09:23] <szrhawaii> he did
[09:23] <szrhawaii> poor guy
[09:23] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: without patience he won't have much luck.
[09:23] <supertones> does ati or nvidia work better these days?
[09:23] <RandyCalifornia> Nvidia
[09:23] <RandyCalifornia> well, both
[09:23] <RandyCalifornia> although I prefer Nvidia :D
[09:24] <supertones> I'm buying a card tomorrow and don't know what to buy
[09:24] <szrhawaii> depends which one you got
[09:24] <RandyCalifornia> the ATI I have sucks
[09:24] <courtjesterg> mscompress is under hardy
[09:24] <supertones> i was thinking ati 3450
[09:24] <RandyCalifornia> well, may be cause is only 8 mb
[09:24] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:24] <courtjesterg> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/otherosfs/mscompre
[09:24] <dwidmann> If ATI continues improving at the current rate I might be able to say one is better than the other inside a year
[09:24] <szrhawaii> yeah that could be it
[09:24] <RandyCalifornia> yeah....
[09:25] <RandyCalifornia> anyways, have any of you any experience with XNA?
[09:25] <supertones> ati releases drivers often?
[09:25] <RandyCalifornia> yes....
[09:25] <courtjesterg> i am using the othe one whats the differece between hardy and lib
[09:25]  * supertones would have to have windows to code xna
[09:25] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[09:25] <courtjesterg> intrepid
[09:25] <surma> kubuntu.pl
[09:25] <RandyCalifornia> I was trying to be full Linux,
[09:26] <RandyCalifornia> but there are two things that are stopping me:
[09:26] <RandyCalifornia> Flash Video(youtube) and MSN emoticos
[09:26] <RandyCalifornia> emoticons*
[09:26] <supertones> like coding flash?
[09:26] <szrhawaii> my youtube works
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> no, youtube doesn't work for me
[09:27] <supertones> I'm close to satisfied with my flash
[09:27] <szrhawaii> and i use msn emoticons on mine
[09:27] <szrhawaii> it does for me
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> because I'm using an Ibook
[09:27] <supertones> oh
[09:27] <szrhawaii> you gotta get firefox
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> yep
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> I have firefox
[09:27] <szrhawaii> i can tell you the plugins you need
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> but there is no Flash for Linux PPC
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> :(
[09:27] <szrhawaii> give me a sec i check on them
[09:27] <szrhawaii> yeah theres a plug in for it
[09:27] <supertones> damn closed source
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> Gnash is not stable enough
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> :(
[09:27] <szrhawaii> i was watching youtube earlier
[09:27] <szrhawaii> i only have kde
[09:27] <apparle> I use OSS drivers, how to enable sounds on Dragon player
[09:28] <supertones> apparle: try the gstreamer backend
[09:28] <szrhawaii> no not with gnash thats shitty
[09:28] <courtjesterg> Filelist of package mscompress in intrepid of architecture i386
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/bin/mscompress
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/bin/msexpand
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/share/doc/mscompress/changelog.Debian.gz
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/share/doc/mscompress/changelog.gz
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/share/doc/mscompress/copyright
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/share/man/man1/mscompress.1.gz
[09:28] <courtjesterg> /usr/share/man/man1/msexpand.1.gz
[09:28] <RandyCalifornia> which should I use?
[09:28] <supertones> i cant wait for flash64 bit support
[09:28] <dwidmann> szrhawaii:  IIRC he's right, there is no flash plugin for the ****PPC***** microarchitecture
[09:28] <szrhawaii> try libflash-swfplayer
[09:28] <supertones> nswrapper sucks
[09:29] <RandyCalifornia> on PPC?
[09:29] <dwidmann> !paste | courtjesterg
[09:29] <szrhawaii> or libflash-mozplugin
[09:29] <szrhawaii> im not sure on ppc
[09:29] <szrhawaii> i just know mine works with these
[09:29] <RandyCalifornia> but does work in the pwer arch?
[09:30] <szrhawaii> not sure you can always try
[09:30] <szrhawaii> never hurts if not delete it
[09:30]  * supertones is guessing no
[09:30] <courtjesterg> sso what exactly does mscompress do for me  with my .exe use it as an install instead of wine?
[09:30] <szrhawaii> libflash0c2
[09:31] <dwidmann> courtjesterg: I think all that does is unpack exe files
[09:31] <courtjesterg> * msexpand which decompresses files compressed by the Microsoft
[09:31] <courtjesterg>    compress.exe utility (e.g. Win 3.x installation files);
[09:31] <courtjesterg>  * mscompress which compresses files using the LZ77 compression
[09:31] <courtjesterg>    algorithm.
[09:32] <szrhawaii> swfdec-mozilla
[09:32] <RandyCalifornia> :O
[09:32] <courtjesterg> i am calling all this a re crash course
[09:32] <courtjesterg> i have been with out me computer for sometime even been home less last year for a time
[09:35] <szrhawaii> anyone home
[09:35] <apparle> what does the ("Composite" "true") in xorg.conf mean
[09:36] <szrhawaii> true composite
[09:36] <szrhawaii> what does composite mean
[09:37] <szrhawaii>    1. A structure or an entity made up of distinct components.
[09:37] <szrhawaii> thats what composite means
[09:38] <stdin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing
[09:38] <szrhawaii> if its a noun
[09:38] <szrhawaii> 9. 	a picture, photograph, or the like, that combines several separate pictures.
[09:39] <szrhawaii> if its an
[09:39] <szrhawaii> composite
[09:39] <szrhawaii> Sponsored Links Online Composites Library
[09:39] <szrhawaii> Buy technical books, studies composites manufacturers directory
[09:39] <szrhawaii> www.JecComposites.com
[09:39]  * supertones is having trouble pulling the trigger on an ati card without being able to find user reviews
[09:39] <apparle> I cant see the video though I hear the voice in andy of xine based players, help
[09:39] <dwidmann> apparle: what video codec?
[09:40] <szrhawaii> thats a defintition there
[09:40] <szrhawaii> is he alive
[09:41] <szrhawaii> guess not
[09:41] <szrhawaii> he must have taken a break
[09:42] <szrhawaii> so is kde for have a different feel and look to it than kde 3
[09:42] <apparle> szrhawaii: When I enable composite in xorg.conf, I can and use Kwin effects but I am not able to see any video play, only hear sound. But If i disable composite, I can see the video play but kwin stops
[09:42] <szrhawaii> i meant kde 4 vs kde 3
[09:43] <dwidmann> apparle: what video card? which drivers for it?
[09:43] <apparle> ati with fglrx drivers
[09:44]  * dwidmann sighs
[09:44] <dwidmann> That driver has always had so many problems
[09:45] <szrhawaii> use a different window manager
[09:45] <apparle> what's the fuss with xine, why can't it play video when composite is enabled
[09:45] <apparle> szrhawaii: u talking to me??
[09:46] <szrhawaii> why dont you use vlc
[09:46] <dwidmann> apparle: not xine's fault As far as I can tell ... probably fglrx's
[09:46] <dwidmann> Come to think of it, I have an idea.
[09:47] <RandyCalifornia> nope
[09:47] <szrhawaii> try VLC
[09:47] <dwidmann> apparle: change the Video Out driver (vo) in your video player to "opengl"
[09:47] <RandyCalifornia> no flash for PowerPC
[09:47] <RandyCalifornia> :(
[09:47] <szrhawaii> still nothing huh
[09:47] <apparle> I am downloading it, but I want to keep my system light and had to install xine for amarok so I thought, use it for video also
[09:47] <RandyCalifornia> why do you mean by using MSN emoticons?
[09:47] <dwidmann> apparle: change the Video Out driver (vo) in your video player to "opengl"
[09:48] <RandyCalifornia> people send me emoticons,
[09:48] <szrhawaii> i guess your system is different mine takes to kde like duck to water
[09:48] <RandyCalifornia>  no the ones that msn has, but new ones
[09:48] <RandyCalifornia> and I'm not able to save them for use them later on :(
[09:48] <szrhawaii> why dont you make your own
[09:48] <apparle> dwidmann: I tried it in kaffeine but it said can init opengl using auto
[09:48] <szrhawaii> its timely
[09:49] <szrhawaii> but you will have an appreciation for them when you finish
[09:49] <RandyCalifornia> I made my own, but my friends just receive strings, not the emoticon
[09:49] <szrhawaii> oh that sucks
[09:49] <RandyCalifornia> I wanted to use gaim
[09:50] <szrhawaii> i have that problem with this one icon set i have and its a good set too
[09:50] <RandyCalifornia> but it doesn't work :S
[09:50] <szrhawaii> but i guess certain ones work and some dont
[09:50] <zeltak> hi
[09:50] <RandyCalifornia> nope, none of them worked
[09:50] <zeltak> anyone know of a good podcast software for kde?
[09:50] <RandyCalifornia> I'm using kopete
[09:50] <dwidmann> RandyCalifornia: I use Kopete ... when people send me emoticons I can see them just fine.
[09:50] <szrhawaii> isnt pigin gaims set up now
[09:50] <RandyCalifornia> I'm able to see them, but not to send them
[09:51] <RandyCalifornia> yes,
[09:51] <szrhawaii> kopete works good recieving but some icons dont send
[09:51] <RandyCalifornia> but adept doesn't show anything when I search for Pidgin
[09:51] <apparle> how to check if your graphic card supports compositing
[09:52] <szrhawaii> go to adept manager and type in pod cast zeltak
[09:52] <szrhawaii> for real that sucks
[09:52] <szrhawaii> what does it say when you type in gaim
[09:53] <cameri> i installed kbfx but it didn't automatically replace my launcher
[09:53] <RandyCalifornia> it shows gaim. So, I click install and then when I try to run it, nothing happens
[09:53] <cameri> how do i manually replace it?
[09:53] <RandyCalifornia> it says "core dumped"
[09:53] <szrhawaii> well kopete works ok
[09:53] <zeltak> thx szrhawaii, i just kinfa wanted personal recommendations
[09:53] <dwidmann> apparle: most cards can, but it also really depends on the video driver, a lot.
[09:54] <szrhawaii> theres not much difference except you get myspace im on it
[09:54] <zeltak> for a good and still in development podcatcher
[09:54] <zeltak> but ill also try adept
[09:54] <RandyCalifornia> indeed, it does, but I want to be able to save emoticons and send them later on
[09:54] <szrhawaii> the good thing about it is if you dont like it just uninstall and try the next one
[09:55] <szrhawaii> are you running kopete right now
[09:55] <RandyCalifornia> yep
[09:55] <szrhawaii> thats wierd that yours doesnt save
[09:55] <szrhawaii> do you have it saved in a file for later
[09:55] <szrhawaii> try going to the root and seeing if its saved there
[09:56] <RandyCalifornia> no. When I right click the emoticon,
[09:56] <RandyCalifornia> it only copies the name of the emoticon
[09:56] <apparle> dwidmann: so finally what to do about video playback
[09:56] <RandyCalifornia> use Xine :)
[09:56] <RandyCalifornia> or Mplayer
[09:56] <szrhawaii> VLC works good
[09:56] <RandyCalifornia> oh yeah, VLC is good!
[09:56] <szrhawaii> it works in windows and here
[09:56] <cameri> szrhawaii: do you know how to configure KDE4.1 to allow KBFX to take place as the Launcher?
[09:56] <RandyCalifornia> the new one is even better
[09:57] <ptl> kaffeine, dragonplayer
[09:57] <szrhawaii> i just do my launchers manually
[09:57] <dwidmann> apparle: if your card/driver can't handle XV, and you can't use opengl while compositiing ... then your options are pretty limited.
[09:57] <ptl> kmplayer
[09:57] <szrhawaii> i dont use kbfx
[09:57] <cameri> ok
[09:57] <szrhawaii> i think it sucks
[09:57] <RandyCalifornia> realplayer?
[09:57] <dwidmann> apparle: regardless of the application that's playing them.
[09:57] <szrhawaii> kaffeine is good too
[09:57] <bdgraue> realplayer is badware!
[09:58] <RandyCalifornia> how so?
[09:58] <szrhawaii> cameri if you save the png file of the pic you want and make it the right size you can make your own
[09:58] <dwidmann> realplayer on linux is helixplayer with some stuff tacked on to the top ...
[09:58] <RandyCalifornia> I've been using it since I was 14 years old
[09:58] <szrhawaii> instead of using kbfx
[09:59] <szrhawaii> what are you using kbfx for anyways cameri
[09:59] <dwidmann> apparle: for curiosities sake, which card is it, exactly?
[09:59] <cameri> i want to try it out
[09:59] <szrhawaii> didnt he say ati
[09:59] <cameri> i cant use it though
[10:00] <cameri> it doesnt appear as a widget
[10:00] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: that's the manufacturer of the chipset, not the manufacturer, make, or model of the card.
[10:00] <szrhawaii> ohh you want the whole low down on that
[10:00] <szrhawaii> what are you trying to change cameri
[10:01] <szrhawaii> maybe theres a better program to use
[10:01] <cameri> maybe.. who knows
[10:01] <cameri> i just wanted to see how it looked
[10:01] <szrhawaii> i like superkaramba for widgets
[10:01] <cameri> superkaramba?
[10:01] <szrhawaii> it works decent
[10:01] <cameri> where can i get that :D
[10:01] <RandyCalifornia> what's superkaramba?
[10:01] <szrhawaii> yeah hit up your adept manager
[10:01] <cameri> done
[10:02] <szrhawaii> its a widget program that runs widgets on your desktop
[10:02] <cameri> found it
[10:02]  * cameri installs superkaramba
[10:02] <RandyCalifornia> like google desktop?
[10:02] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: I'm pretty sure plasma + plasmoids intends to completely replace superkaramba
[10:02] <cameri> done
[10:02] <szrhawaii> yeah it does but superkaramba is basic for easy stuff
[10:02] <szrhawaii> plasma and plasmoids work good too
[10:03] <RandyCalifornia> is there any program that looks like google desktop?
[10:03] <cameri> i got it installed, now what :D?
[10:03] <RandyCalifornia> or the thing on windows vista?
[10:03] <cameri> i didnt see any new widgets, do i have to reboot?
[10:03] <szrhawaii> open it and go to install new stuff
[10:03] <cameri> ok
[10:03] <szrhawaii> no you can browse for widgets on it
[10:04] <RandyCalifornia> ?
[10:04] <cameri> which do u recommend
[10:04] <szrhawaii> i would do both
[10:04] <szrhawaii> you get more if you go to the website
[10:05] <szrhawaii> www.kde-look.org
[10:05] <cameri> okay
[10:05] <cameri> well thans man
[10:05] <cameri> g2
[10:05] <cameri> g2g
[10:05] <szrhawaii> then look on the left for superkaramba
[10:05] <cameri> got work today >.<
[10:05] <RandyCalifornia> do I need to install something else in order to run superkaramba?
[10:05] <szrhawaii> one more thing
[10:05] <cameri> aha?
[10:05] <szrhawaii> when you download the file make sure you right click the theme file and preess run with superkaramba
[10:06] <szrhawaii> then your good
[10:06] <cameri> ok
[10:06] <szrhawaii> its easy
[10:06] <cameri> thx, bye!
[10:06] <szrhawaii> no problem
[10:06] <szrhawaii> no you dont randy
[10:07] <szrhawaii> it runs just on that program
[10:07] <RandyCalifornia> :D
[10:07] <szrhawaii> hey dwidmann do you know a good firewall setup for my browser that you would recommend
[10:07] <apparle> dwidmann: sorry,I was away. I have on board ATI radeon xpress
[10:08] <apparle> On the card I use overlay-type as XV
[10:08] <szrhawaii> i think hes sleeping
[10:08] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: linux has got a firewall built in .. you've just gotta configure it. Firestarter seems to be the popular choice for a GUI way of doing it.
[10:09] <szrhawaii> just wanted to see if you had a recommendation ill check that out
[10:09] <dwidmann> apparle: definitely post on ubuntuforums.org about it and see if you can find anything out ... it could be something to do with the way you have X configure also (contents of the xorg.conf)
[10:10] <RandyCalifornia> I installed superkaramba
[10:10] <szrhawaii> hey dwidmann is firestater set up kind of like a tor program
[10:10] <RandyCalifornia> but nothing happens to my desktop
[10:10] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: nah, tor is something else entirely
[10:10] <szrhawaii> nothing is gonna happen you have to download the packages to run with it
[10:10] <szrhawaii> is there something like that on here
[10:11] <szrhawaii> dwidmann
[10:11] <apparle> !restrictedformats
[10:11] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: something like tor? sure, there's tor :P
[10:12] <szrhawaii> haha
[10:12] <szrhawaii> theres one in the adept right
[10:12] <RandyCalifornia> I already install a package
[10:12] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: sudo apt-get install tor if you want to ... for the rest of the setup of it you'll have to find yourself some instructions to follow online
[10:12] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: probably not for the faint of heart
[10:12] <courtjesterg> did you know the new version of windows is probally going to use qt
[10:13] <dwidmann> courtjesterg: use it for?
[10:13] <courtjesterg> it system
[10:13] <dwidmann> That sounds highly unlikely
[10:14] <szrhawaii> randy do you have it open it says ad to desktop or uninstall on the program window
[10:14] <RandyCalifornia> I got it :D thanks
[10:14] <RandyCalifornia> looks awesome good!
[10:15] <szrhawaii> dwidmann would you recommend tor
[10:15] <szrhawaii> no prob randy its easy to use huh
[10:15] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: well, if you need want the anonymity, go right ahead, if you don't mind the network speed hit
[10:16] <szrhawaii> so it slows you down a bit
[10:17] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: well, it "onion routes" you through other computers ... the more it has to pass through the slower it gets, also, your speed will only be as fast as the slowest link in the chain.
[10:18] <szrhawaii> sounds like a hassle
[10:18] <ady> hi anybody can help me ? I don't know how to mount permanently my second HDD without formatting it ?
[10:19] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: well, after the initial setup it will be transparent to you ... but that's how it works
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[10:20] <makdaknife> ady: what's the problem?
[10:20] <makdaknife> hi ActionParsnip1
[10:21] <ady> I don't know the command to do that, Im a newbie with kubuntu
[10:21] <apparle> Why partition of my harddisk are not mounted automatically
[10:21] <ady> Do you know how could I do that ?
[10:22] <courtjesterg> does anyone else have these programs installed and do i really needs them i might of downloaded them
[10:22] <makdaknife> ady: the easiest way to set up a disk to mount at boot... if you're new... is to use the tools provided in the KDE System Settings
[10:22] <makdaknife> ady: go to your System Settings and click on the Advanced tab...
[10:22] <courtjesterg> settings software settings
[10:22] <dwidmann> apparle: if they're not in the /etc/fstab, they won't be mounted automatically
[10:22] <makdaknife> ady: then go to Disk and Filesystems
[10:23] <RandyCalifornia> well, gtg
[10:23] <RandyCalifornia> see ya late
[10:23] <courtjesterg> synaptic package manager
[10:23] <ady> ok
[10:23] <makdaknife> ady: you will need to change to Administrator mode (enter you password)
[10:23] <courtjesterg> in system
[10:23] <ady> ok
[10:23] <szrhawaii> or adept if hes using kde 3
[10:23] <makdaknife> ady: then you should see your disk listed there, and you can set a mount point and fstype etc etc
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> apparle: add an entry for it to /etc/fstab and it will be
[10:24] <ady> Ok, Im trying this
[10:24] <makdaknife> ady: see how you go and if you get stuck give us a shout
[10:24] <ady> this process won't format my HDD, is it ?
[10:24] <brett_> hey all, i'm having a helluva time getting kde working right after upgrading to 8.10 today (previously on 3.5, now obvsly on 4.1). nvidia driver in particularly is causing me grief. does anyone have experience in this area?
[10:24] <apparle> ActionParsnip1: how to add entries
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !fstab | apparle
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> apparle: or man fstab
[10:25] <makdaknife> ady: no... this will only add a mount point... you will need to know what filesystem is being used by your second disk
[10:25] <szrhawaii> wireless problem
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> szrhawaii: can you be more specific
[10:25] <ady> Where could I mount my second disk ? where I want ?
[10:26] <ady> is there a default destination ?
[10:26] <szrhawaii> if i rebooted a system and the wireless toggle al of a sudden wont turn the wireless on anymore and it was working right before tha what woul i need to do
[10:26] <makdaknife> ady: for your reference, working in this tool will add an entry to the fstab (/etc/fstab) - you may want to look at the links that ubottu has just given to apparle
[10:26] <makdaknife> ady: sure... you can mount wherever you like
[10:26] <ady> ok
[10:26] <makdaknife> ady: if its only you that is going to use the disk... create a directory in your home folder and mount to that
[10:27] <makdaknife> ady: otherwise, consider creating a directory in / or in /mnt
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> !mount | ady
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> szrhawaii: check dmesg to see whats happening with the driver
[10:29] <ady> ok, mmm I've tried to mount it on / but kubuntu inform me that there is already a disk on this destination, can I continue or this will be a problem after ?
[10:29] <szrhawaii> how do i get there
[10:29] <makdaknife> ady: not on /
[10:29] <ady> ok
[10:29] <makdaknife> ady: / will be used by your currently running linux
[10:30] <makdaknife> ady: generally you will mount on an empty directory
[10:31] <szrhawaii> ActionParsnip1>how do i get there is that through command rompt
[10:31] <szrhawaii> prompt
[10:31] <makdaknife> ady: so convention has it that you create a new directory in /mnt and mount there... but you can mount onto any empty directory on your filesystem
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> szrhawaii: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <makdaknife> ady: you can even mount on a directory that isn't empty... but then the things in that directory would not be available to you while something else was mounted on that directory
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> makdaknife: ooh didnt know that (mental note)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> ady: and dont mount anywhere in /proc ;)
[10:32] <makdaknife> ActionParsnip1: :-)
[10:33] <ady> ok, I will not ;)
[10:33] <szrhawaii> ok what if it says error dbus network driver not detected
[10:33] <ady> hum Im trying to mount it but it doesnt work... what should I select on Type field ?
[10:34] <apparle> How to make the system use OSS drivers
[10:34] <makdaknife> ady: type will be the filesystem type... so it depends on how you have formatted the drive
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> !sound | apparle
[10:34] <makdaknife> ady: if it was formatted under linux... this might be ext3 or ext2 or reiserfs (or a variety of other options)
[10:35] <ady> this is my old windows files from windows XP
[10:35] <makdaknife> ady: ext3 is the most commonly used linux fs
[10:35] <makdaknife> ady: ah... okay... was it formatted using ntfs?
[10:35] <ady> I think yes
[10:35] <lodi> interesting problem on eee pc
[10:35] <lodi> kubuntu 7.10
[10:36] <lodi> yesterday all went smoothly
[10:36] <makdaknife> ady: then set it to ntfs
[10:36] <lodi> this morning booting went smoothley
[10:36] <lodi> but as I tried to login
[10:37] <lodi> login to kde
[10:37] <ady> when I click to OK, nothing happens
[10:37] <lodi> the xserver restarted itself
[10:37] <lodi> I then installed xfce
[10:37] <makdaknife> ady: is the disk enabled?
[10:38] <lodi> abd when I try to login same happens
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> lodi: check logs in root console / livecd
[10:38] <ady> no, there's still nothing in this field. Neither enable nor disable
[10:39] <makdaknife> ady: okay let's step through this...
[10:40] <makdaknife> ady: in Disk and Filesystems, you can see the second disk right?
[10:40] <makdaknife> ady: you click on it and then click new...
[10:40] <ady> Yes, with one partition : sdb1
[10:41] <makdaknife> okay so you click on the partition and click modify
[10:41] <ady> wait
[10:41] <ady>  think there is something wrong here
[10:42] <makdaknife> ady: okay... what's the problem?
[10:42] <ady> Actually, I can't click on the modify button, this with the others (first HDD and CD readers)
[10:43] <ady> I have to open the right click menu to modify it
[10:43] <makdaknife> ady: hmmm okay... may be a bug... unfortunately I can't test here as I don't have a spare disk handy
[10:44] <ady> Okay
[10:44] <makdaknife> ady: so in modify... you have a bunch of options
[10:44] <ady> yes
[10:44] <lodi> livecd?
[10:44] <makdaknife> ady: make sure type is set to under Type... NTFS - NT Filesystem
[10:44] <ady> thats ok
[10:44] <apparle> Is there any way I can use Kwin with compositing disabled in xorg.conf
[10:45] <lodi> It is installed on the hard disk
[10:45] <makdaknife> in mount point, browse to an empty directory on your filesystem... e.g. /mnt/disk2 or /home/ady/myotherdisk
[10:45] <lodi> but will try
[10:45] <ady> done
[10:46] <makdaknife> ady: under By Device... By ID etc... you might want to try By Device... and make sure it says /dev/sdb1
[10:46] <ady> yes ok
[10:47] <makdaknife> ady: okay... you can change the other options... like Enable at Startup etc...
[10:47] <chris_rc1> hi
[10:47] <lodi> ActionParsnip1 what logs should I check
[10:47] <makdaknife> ady: you can leave it as only Root to enable or disable...
[10:47] <makdaknife> ady: then click OK
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> lodi: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[10:48] <ady> nothing happens
[10:48] <chris_rc1> i have setup kontact to work with google calendar. however, ever since kde 4.1 i cannot get the resource view on the left though it is checked in the side panel list. any clues why?
[10:48] <ady> I think I have to fill the Label field
[10:48] <makdaknife> ady: not if your device is by name
[10:49] <makdaknife> ady: sorry earlier I wasn't clear... you can choose Device... by name, by UUID or by Label
[10:49] <makdaknife> choose Device by name, and set this to /dev/sdb1
[10:49] <courtjesterg> No serrious do i need this application in system its a package manager called synaptic package manager or is it just like adept and i installed not knowing?
[10:50] <makdaknife> ady: does that make sense?
[10:50] <ady> Yes, but there is two ticks
[10:50] <ady> on by name, and by label
[10:50] <courtjesterg> ticks?
[10:51] <makdaknife> ady: that's pretty strange... they shouldn't be ticks... radio button options... and if you choose by name, it should disable by label
[10:51] <courtjesterg> is anybody actually reading this or am i on like some kinda mutte or something?
[10:51] <makdaknife> ady: if there are ticks, try and uncheck by label... this is sounding very strange
[10:52] <makdaknife> courtjesterg: I see you
[10:52] <lodi> ActionParsnip1 kdm.log gives one error intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0
[10:52] <lodi> it is repeated 3 times
[10:52] <makdaknife> courtjesterg: what package? synaptic is just another package manager gui... adept is fine
[10:52] <dwidmann> I wonder if I do "kill -s stop `pidof wget` today, and then do kill -s cont `pidof wget` tomorrow, if it will resume
[10:53] <courtjesterg> so i can remove it
[10:53] <ady> Im sorry, my english vocabulary isn't very good, maybe "tick" is not the good word, but, there is two points : one before the "by name" and one before the "by label"
[10:53] <makdaknife> courtjesterg: yeah no problem
[10:53] <courtjesterg> i mean it shows lots of stuff adept don't it looks like
[10:53] <makdaknife> ady: that's really strange...what happens if you try to choose by UUID?
[10:54] <ady> two points : by UUID and by label
[10:54] <makdaknife> courtjesterg: I used to prefer it to adept... but really there is not that much difference
[10:54] <courtjesterg> i am messing with it noticed it has the amarok update in it while adept don't?!!
[10:54] <makdaknife> ady: try select just label?
[10:54] <ady> but if I click two times on "by label", there's only by label
[10:55] <chris_rc1> the sidebar settings in kontact have no effect at all. does anybody know why that could be?
[10:55] <ady> Yes I can do that
[10:55] <courtjesterg> i even found that mscompress while i couldn't in adept
[10:55] <ady> What should I enter in by label field ?
[10:55] <makdaknife> ady: hmmm sounds very odd... give me a second
[10:55] <courtjesterg> its alredy installed
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> lodi: then go forth and resarch wat that means
[10:56] <lodi> lol
[10:56] <lodi> ok
[10:56] <lodi> could be caused by the fact that freespace is running out?
[10:56] <lodi> or possibly a hardware failure?
[10:57] <makdaknife> ady: okay this is a bug in kde for ntfs filesystems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/150400
[10:57] <makdaknife> ady:  give me a minute... I'll see if you can get around it
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> lodi: possibly
[10:57] <makdaknife> courtjesterg: yeah... the gui package managers are odd that way... I just like good old apt-get or aptitude off the command line
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> lodi: maybe its space, you could remove old install debs with sudo apt-get clean
[10:58] <ady> ok, I closed all windows and I retried it
[10:58] <ady> Now, there's only one point
[10:58] <lodi> tx
[11:00] <makdaknife> ady: is the point in By Label or By Name?
[11:00] <ady> by name
[11:00] <makdaknife> ady: excellent... make sure that is /dev/sdb1
[11:00] <makdaknife> then try click ok
[11:01] <Trustn01> i need help with setting up phpmyadmin and dialupadmin can some one help me please
[11:01] <makdaknife> ady: was just trying to find an easy way to find out your disk label... I don't know offhand
[11:01] <makdaknife> ady: so did that work?
[11:01] <ady> No
[11:02] <ady> actually
[11:02] <ady> I believe that the problem is before
[11:02] <ady> mmm
[11:03] <Spanker> can somebody please help me with xorg kubuntu?
[11:03] <ady> You know in the windows that you have after clicking Disk and Filesystems
[11:03] <courtjesterg> ok what abou this app system hardware drivers its called looks useless and does nothing everytime i open it up
[11:03] <ady> You have all HDD, cd reader... etc...
[11:03] <chris_rc1> could anybody pls tell me whether the sidebars in kontact work for them so i can exclude a bug?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> Spanker: wassup
[11:04] <makdaknife> ady: yes
[11:04] <ady> and each row, exept system row, have a status (which is enable or disable).
[11:04] <makdaknife> ady: yes
[11:04] <ady> but my second hdd row hasn't status
[11:04] <Spanker> i've just installed kubuntu 8.10 on a hp compaq 6715s
[11:04] <ady> nothing can tell me if it is enable or not
[11:05] <ady> I believe that is the problem ^^
[11:05] <Spanker> then i tried to install fglrx
[11:05] <courtjesterg> spanker welcome to a different world
[11:05] <Spanker> :)
[11:05] <makdaknife> ady: hmmm I'm not sure what else to do... the alternative is to dive under the hood
[11:05] <makdaknife> ady: close all of these windows and open up konsole
[11:06] <ady> I don't know how to use konsole ;)
[11:07] <makdaknife> ady: no problem... its time to learn something... this is where linux really really shines
[11:07] <ady> Do you know how to proceed ?
[11:07] <makdaknife> ady: okay in konsole... type: sudo -s
[11:07] <courtjesterg> nevermind it found something my graphics card it wasnts me to activate but could of swear i did with envy
[11:07] <makdaknife> ady: enter your password
[11:08] <ady> ok
[11:08] <courtjesterg> restarting
[11:08] <courtjesterg> pray
[11:08] <makdaknife> ady: you are now root... this is the most powerful user you can be... making mistakes here can be dangerous
[11:08] <makdaknife> ady: okay... fortunately we are not going to do anything too serious
[11:08] <ady> Ok, this this command, Im the super administrator ?
[11:08] <makdaknife> ady: yes
[11:09] <ady> with* this command
[11:09] <ady> ok
[11:09] <makdaknife> ady: give me a second while I find an easier editor to work with than explaining vi to you on irc
[11:10] <makdaknife> ady: okay we will use nano
[11:10] <makdaknife> ady: so type: nano /etc/fstab
[11:10] <ady> ok
[11:10] <makdaknife> ady:  this should open the fstab... which defines how partitions are mounted in your fs
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> makdaknife: you'll need sudo for that
[11:11] <makdaknife> ady: the kde tool that we were looking at works with this file
[11:11] <makdaknife> ActionParsnip1: follow the conversation... he's already sudo
[11:11] <ady> ok, but ther isn't my second HDD
[11:11] <makdaknife> ady: now in this file... you will see that there are lines starting with # these are comments
[11:12] <ady> yes
[11:12] <ady> informations lines
[11:12] <makdaknife> ady: some start with UUID= these are disks detected by udev (I think... someone can correct me if I'm wrong)
[11:13] <makdaknife> ady: at the bottom of the file... add a line like this: /dev/sdb /windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> makdaknife: I assume nothing, just making sure :)
[11:13] <makdaknife> ady: /windows would be the mount point... e.g. wherever you want to mount your disk
[11:14] <makdaknife> ady: probably this might be replaced with something like /home/ady/myotherdisk or /mnt/windowsdisk
[11:14] <makdaknife> ady: of course, this directory must already exist
[11:14] <makdaknife> ady: I lifted that line from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[11:15] <ady> ok
[11:15] <makdaknife> ady: I don't use any windows disks, so I'm just hoping that the ntfs-3g driver is still the one in use... we will find out soon enough
[11:16] <makdaknife> ady: one point is that the bit that says locale=en_US.UTF-8 is just a locale... technically, it might be different for where you are... but we can find that out later too if we need to
[11:17] <ady> hope it'll work ;)
[11:17] <makdaknife> ady: okay... next thing... you need to write out... so I think that's Ctrl-o and then Ctrl-x to exit
[11:18] <makdaknife> ady: that should put you back on the command line
[11:18] <makdaknife> ady: now, time to test that fstab entry...
[11:18] <DreamC4ster> anyone can give me the command of installing firefox in kubuntu ?
[11:19] <makdaknife> ady: type: mount /mnt/mydisk (or whatever mount point you defined in the fstab)
[11:19] <DreamC4ster> !firefox
[11:20] <makdaknife> DreamC4ster: either use adept to install it or use `aptitude install firefox` on the command line
[11:20] <makdaknife> ady: you still with me?
[11:20] <ady> yes
[11:20] <ady> I'm tryin to save
[11:21] <Trustn01> what is the diff between phpmyadmin and mysql
[11:21] <makdaknife> ady: ah... okay... tell me if I'm moving too swiftly
[11:21] <ady> Ok, i'm right ^^
[11:21] <makdaknife> ady: great....
[11:21] <ady> I'm tryin fstab
[11:22] <ady> ok
[11:22] <makdaknife> ady: any luck there?
[11:23] <makdaknife> ady: no complaints?
[11:23] <ady> just a little mistake
[11:23] <makdaknife> ady: if you type mount... you will see if it is mounted
[11:23] <makdaknife> ady: so just: mount <enter>
[11:23] <ady>  /dev/sdb /windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0 in this line, I have to write /dev/sdb0
[11:24] <ady> I believe
[11:24] <ady> sdb1
[11:24] <makdaknife> ady: whoops... my bad... yes... or I think earlier you said it was sdb1
[11:24] <makdaknife> ady: sorry... so open it up again and edit it... save and then try mount again
[11:25]  * makdaknife holds thumbs that ady's disk mounts....
[11:26]  * makdaknife needs to get back to work soon
[11:26] <ady> it say to me :
[11:26] <ady> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument
[11:26] <ady> The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[11:26] <ady> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[11:26] <ady> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[11:26] <makdaknife> ady: :-( hmmm it could be that it isn't formatted in ntfs
[11:27] <makdaknife> ady: in which case you could edit the fstab entry and replace ntfs with vfat... so that the line looks a bit like this
[11:28] <makdaknife> ady: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mydisk vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[11:29] <makdaknife> ady: sorry that's lifted from the same site... I'm not sure if there are better mount options offhand... but we're just trying to determine if we can mount this disk
[11:30] <zer0o> hi guys im about to install the ibex kubuntu version, what about the libraries that i installed in the previous version? since im formatting which ones are the ones to re-install for sure?
[11:31] <makdaknife> ady: you with me?
[11:31] <ady> Actually, there is another issue
[11:32] <ady> mount: selon mtab /dev/sdb1 est monté sur /media/disk
[11:32] <ady> according to mtab /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/disk
[11:33] <courtjesterg> ok so after i did that hardware driver of which the nvida 96 drivers is still in there and i did the restart i decided to try and install the 173 passed and the 177 it passed also the 96 is still int he hardwaredriver but not active now with server x it shows driver 96 any input on anything or am i good wow now when i hole a window it tuns itrasparent
[11:33] <makdaknife> ady: ah... okay... that's going to cause some problems... make sure that you have unmounted it...
[11:33] <makdaknife> ady: you can try umount /media/disk
[11:34] <makdaknife> ady: if that fails... it is probably because something in KDE has a file on that disk open... or konqueror may be browsing the disk
[11:34] <ady> ok
[11:34] <ady> umount worked
[11:34] <makdaknife> ady: okay... now try mount it
[11:34] <ady> but bad fs type
[11:34] <makdaknife> ady: :-(
[11:35] <ady> should i try with ntfc ?
[11:35] <ady> ntfs*
[11:35] <makdaknife> ady: I just realised that we missed out on an opportunity to see what it had originally been mounted with...
[11:35] <makdaknife> ady: you could try
[11:36] <makdaknife> ady: if that doesn't work... open konqueror and go to storage media... remount the disk... then in konsole... type mount <enter>
[11:36] <makdaknife> ady: that should give us the details that we need to mount this disk properly
[11:37] <BluAngel> salve a tutti
[11:37] <BluAngel> volevo chiedere se qualcuno sa come posso inserire caratteri ascii come in windows
[11:38] <bazhang> !it
[11:38] <ady> NTFS signature is missing...
[11:38] <makdaknife> ady: you are doing well btw... its great to help someone who is willing to work on the command line and who is willing to experiment a bit
[11:38] <BluAngel> thanks
[11:39] <makdaknife> ady: okay... try what I said earlier... use konqueror to remount your disk...
[11:39] <makdaknife> and then lets get the mount information in konsole
[11:40] <makdaknife> ady: we probably should have started with this... I just didn't realise that you had already mounted the disk ;-)
[11:40] <ady> It doesn't want to be remounted
[11:41] <makdaknife> hmmm... okay... in konsole... just type mount... and let's make sure that its not already in use
[11:43] <makdaknife> ady: is /dev/sdb1 listed at all... or anything else that looks like it might be that disk?
[11:46] <Trustn01> Who can help a newbie with phpmyadmin
[12:02] <flynn_> hallo.
[12:13] <gekkoo> anybody using mercurial here?
[12:13] <Brett_> ikonia: i figured the problem... well partially, but good enough... for some reason whenever i started gdm, it took about 30 seconds for ANYTHING to happen (even though "startx" brings up kde with seconds). I found a setting "GdmXserverTimeout" in gdm.conf, increased it to 45 seconds, and whammo it works
[12:16] <sorush20> the kipi image extensions are not working with gwenview, I'm running gwenview  Version 2.1.3 Using KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3)
[12:30] <p_masho> anyone here who can help we upgrade to 4.1.3? I've followed the instructions from here (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Available-Now-KDE-4-1-3-97342.shtml) ie unsupported UPdated and "intrepid main" as a new repos.
[12:30] <p_masho> However I still dont get to see a 4.1.3 option. ;-(
[12:31] <jussi01> p_masho: did you have updates?
[12:31] <p_masho> no..
[12:32] <jussi01> p_masho: ok, lets walk through this.
[12:33] <p_masho> is this correct .. .http://rafb.net/p/n24Vlq55.html
[12:33]  * p_masho brb.. someone at door 
[12:33] <jussi01> p_masho: you are on hardy, dont hink its available on there yet...
[12:34] <jussi01> p_masho: hrm, actually it seems it is
[12:36] <jussi01> p_masho: you need to remove the last line,
[12:36] <jussi01> p_masho: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[12:38] <jussi01> hi ActionParsnip1
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> quiet today huh
[12:40] <jussi01> yep
[12:42]  * ActionParsnip1 listens to the wind blow
[12:43] <jarek> hello
[12:43] <p_masho> jussi01: remove the intrepid line ?
[12:44] <jussi01> p_masho: yes
[12:44] <jarek> i have problem with kubuntu 8.04
[12:44] <jarek> with ntfs
[12:44] <jussi01> !ask
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: whats the problem
[12:44]  * ActionParsnip1 bets he cant write as a user
[12:44] <windfield> hello everyone i have problem installing kubuntu 8.04
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> windfield: ask away
[12:45] <jarek> i use ntfs-config to automount ntfs
[12:45] <windfield> do you know how to fix grub error 25?
[12:45] <p_masho> Ok dont that.. but it only gives me option to update kb3 ! http://rafb.net/p/VqS5xJ20.html
[12:45] <jarek> ntfs-config add line to fstab
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> windfield: what does it mean?
[12:45] <jarek> but when i try to get partition ntfs i have u dont have permision
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: add some mount options
[12:45] <jarek> windfield: no
[12:46] <windfield> after i installed kubuntu, when comp boots error message will appear
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: i dont know about ntfs-config
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> windfield: what does error 25 mean?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> I did not think ngts-config ADDED lines to fstab.. i thought ive only seen it alter - existing/entries
[12:46] <windfield> its a grub error i think
[12:47] <windfield> it can't dual boot xp & kubuntu
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> windfield: yep, but what does it mean
[12:47] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: the problem occured when i dl linux-restricted modules for kernel 2.6.24-21
[12:47] <p_masho> jussi01: any ideas ?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: can we see your /etc/fstab please
[12:47] <Dr_willis> example fstab entry for ntfs-3g [12:47] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g defaults,locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 0 0
[12:48] <jussi01> p_masho: please open konqueror, and go to help, about and check the version
[12:48] <jarek> its add by ntfs-config
[12:48] <p_masho> 4.1.2
[12:49] <windfield> Grub error 25 : Disk read error
[12:49] <windfield> This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to
[12:49] <windfield> probe or read data from a particular disk.
[12:49] <jussi01> p_masho: ok, im not certain of whats wrong, although as you have used automatix it could be anything...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: try: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: add your locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 to the end of that but before 0 0
[12:51] <p_masho> jussi01: automatix?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: so that would be: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0, locale=pl_PL.UTF-8
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> piss
[12:51] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: i will try ty
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000,locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 0 0
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> yay
[12:51] <jussi01> p_masho: you showed me a your sources list, which had been modified by a program called automatix...
[12:52] <p_masho> nuked that a long time ago (think I used to try and get nvidia to work)
[12:52] <jussi01> !automatix | p_masho
[12:53] <jussi01> anyway, not sure whats going on, sorrty
[12:54] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE
[12:54] <jarek> library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated
[12:54] <jarek> FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: how di dyou get that?
[12:55]  * ActionParsnip1 hates ntfs
[12:56] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: when i add this line from u
[12:56] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: i hate it too
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: can you suggest dude
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: /dev/sda1 /media/Xp ntfs-3g noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000,locale=pl_PL.UTF-8 0 0
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: gives:
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> hmm
[12:58] <Dr_willis> I dont think one needs all those options..
[12:58] <Dr_willis> and i do think the umask is wrong
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: once you have edited the fstab run: sudo mount -a
[12:58] <Dr_willis> the entry i pasted was rather simple. :)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: just gives full access to all users
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198614
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> thats were I got it
[12:59] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: same error
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> jarek: id let Dr_willis guide you
[13:00] <jarek> ActionParsnip1: ok thx for help
[13:02] <Dr_willis> the nfts-3g web page is worth reading. It has examples of such entries I recall.. also most of the info at the ntfs driver for linux page has good info as well.
[13:02] <jarek> Dr_willis: yesterday read/write to ntfs works fine
[13:02] <Dr_willis> jarek,  ntfs, or ntfs-3g ?
[13:03] <jarek> Dr_willis: ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[13:03] <jarek> Dr_willis: today i dl uppdate for kernel
[13:03] <jarek> Dr_willis: restricted modules or sth like that
[13:03] <jarek> Dr_willis: i have kernel 2.6.24-21
[13:04] <Dr_willis> try mounting the location manuall. and see if any error messages show up
[13:04] <Dr_willis> what is it 'not' doing? not mounting at all? mounting read only?
[13:04] <jarek> read only have same error
[13:04] <jarek> no access
[13:05] <Dr_willis> what error is it saying? just the file manager saying it cant write to it?
[13:05] <jarek> i run ntfs-config
[13:05] <jarek> its add me line to etc/fstab
[13:05] <jarek> when i go to disk error occured no acces
[13:06] <jarek> i add this and same error ntfs-3g force 0 0
[13:06] <Dr_willis> dont use force
[13:06] <aenima1891> ciao a tutti
[13:07] <Dr_willis> use as simple a fstab antry as you can.. and see if you can get it working at all.. then start tweaking the options
[13:07] <aenima1891> after many years of gnome, now 'm trying kubuntu with kde4
[13:07] <Dr_willis> ie: --->   /dev/sda1  /media/vista ntfs-3g defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[13:07] <aenima1891> I like it
[13:07] <aenima1891> but i've a problem
[13:08] <Dr_willis> I forget where that gid came from.. :)
[13:08] <aenima1891> i can't configure wireless
[13:08] <aenima1891> does anybody know a good wireless manager for kde4?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> also as a test i just tried a --->    sudo ntfs-3g  /dev/sdb1 sdb1   and it mounted sdb1 as r/w for me.
[13:09] <jarek> same error
[13:09] <Dr_willis> aenima1891,  you got the wireless card working right first? proper drivers installed?
[13:09] <Dr_willis> jarek,  you are unmounting this thing befor you try the other mount commands?
[13:09] <aenima1891> i'll print my iwconfig output
[13:09] <aenima1891> wait a second
[13:09] <Dr_willis> its possible you got it mounted several times
[13:09] <Dr_willis> !pastebin | aenima1891
[13:10] <jarek> Dr_willis:  it's don't mount
[13:10] <Dr_willis>  jarek  try the simplest way -->    sudo ntfs-3g  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1   (change sdb1 to be what youir filesstem is)
[13:10] <aenima1891> ok
[13:10] <aenima1891> look http://paste.ubuntu.com/70468/plain/
[13:11] <aenima1891> i think that my drivers are ok
[13:11] <Dr_willis> aenima1891,  yep.. looks good.. but i dont do much wireless.. I had to install the fwcutter for mine bedor they worked.
[13:11] <aenima1891> but i'd like to use a good wireless manager
[13:11] <jarek> Dr_willis: Dr_willis $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[13:11] <jarek> Failed to mount '/dev/sda6': Operation not supported
[13:11] <jarek> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[13:13] <Dr_willis> jarek,  the ntfs filesystem was not flagged as properlly unmounted from windows when windows exited.. thus its being 'safe' and not letting you mount it.. the BEST cource of action wouldbe to boot to windows.. let windows rescan/check the drive.. and then reboot back to linux  and try to access it then.
[13:13] <Dr_willis> assuming you havent confused things too much by your tweaking. :)
[13:13] <jarek> Dr_willis: ok i will try thx for help
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> aenima1891: sudo iwlist scan
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> aenima1891: do APs show up?
[13:16] <aenima1891> http://paste.ubuntu.com/70472/plain/
[13:16] <aenima1891> for you <ActionParsnip1>
[13:16] <RenzoreK> Can someone help me with serious performance issues with Ibex? KDE 4.1 is extremely slow in moving widgets around and even loading the screen saver. I am using the 3D binary driver from nVidia on an 8600GT board/chipset. Even compiz is a bit sluggish I have no clue where to start, searches on google show others have the same problem but I am unable to find a solution with them. Anyone know where to turn to? (Besides Windows, ack!)
[13:17] <Dr_willis> kde4 is not as optmized as it could be.. :( sadly
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> aenima1891: sudo ifup wlan0
[13:17] <RurouniJones> !kde4 | RenzoreK
[13:17] <RurouniJones> You might get a better answer in there
[13:18] <RenzoreK> Thank you RurouniJones I will try there also
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: do games run ok in linux?
[13:18]  * Dr_willis has been playing FreeCol all week. :)
[13:18] <aenima1891> "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0". how is it possible?
[13:18] <RenzoreK> ActionParsnip1: I usually don't run games, but when I was using Hardy, then ran fine. (actually better than compiz and all other effects) :(
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: sudo apt-get install fretsonfire
[13:19] <RenzoreK> RurouniJones: The server redirects me back to this channel when I join #kubuntu-kde4 :\
[13:19] <RurouniJones> Really?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> aenima1891: what wifi card do you have according to lspci
[13:19] <RurouniJones> Ah, I suppose because ibex is kde4
[13:19] <RenzoreK> RurouniJones: : [08:18] [470] #kubuntu-kde4 #kubuntu Forwarding to another channel
[13:20] <RurouniJones> Oh well
[13:20] <emma> Anyone here have any thoughts about swiftfox ?
[13:20] <emma> http://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm
[13:20] <emma> does that look like something safe or a good idea?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> emma: yeah its decent, i prefer opera
[13:21] <emma> it might be a way to get firefox without using the ubuntu package that installs all the GNOME libs
[13:21] <RenzoreK> ActionParsnip1: This is that GH clone, do I need this to test my card to see if its nvidia or kde4??
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: its jus a full 3d game to test your card
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> youo can also install any other 3d game
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> just to tes
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> t
[13:21] <aenima1891> http://paste.ubuntu.com/70477/plain/ this is lpci output
[13:21] <RenzoreK> ActionParsnip1: Ok its installing at the moment, Ill test the card. I used to run Unreal 2004 and it worked great
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> aenima1891: those are buggy in hardy, the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: runs natively too with loki installer
[13:23] <aenima1891> i'm not using hardy, but kubuntu intrepid
[13:23] <RenzoreK> If this is a KDE4 issue I might move to Gnome
[13:23] <RenzoreK> Though personally Ive always liked KDE
[13:23] <Fargh> hey, whats the app name in KDE4 to manage the filesystem ?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: tr fluxbox with kde
[13:23] <RenzoreK> but the desktop is simply unusable for even web browsing
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: it might just be kwin
 i didn't have this problem with gnome
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: I love kde, hate kwin
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> aenima1891: was it intrepid?
[13:24] <Fargh> anyone ?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> Fargh: sup?
[13:24] <Fargh> hi
[13:24] <Fargh> whats the app name in KDE4 to manage the filesystem ?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Fargh
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Fargh: dolphin
[13:25] <aenima1891> kubunyu intrepid ibex
[13:25] <RenzoreK> ActionParsnip1: Im using Compiz as the compositing wm if that makes any diff\
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Fargh: but you can install konqueror if you prefer
[13:25] <Fargh> thats a filemanager, doesnt allow you tonfigure USB drives
[13:25] <emma> is kubuntu capable of using wifi if it is WPA2 encrypted?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> RenzoreK: hmm, ten no kwin for you
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> Fargh: /etc/fstab can automount stuff for you
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> Fargh: depends how you mean by "configure usb devices"
[13:26] <Fargh> how do i get the correct /dev/sdc0 to use in fstab ?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> Fargh: sudo fdisk -l
[13:27] <Fargh> k, thx.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> np
[13:28] <RenzoreK> Need to log out everyone, KDE4 now borked itself and displays only on 1/4 of my monitor the rest is black
[13:28]  * RenzoreK sighs
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Hmm fdisk -l dosent show optical drives I thought,.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: i guessed taht was an example
[13:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: plus he was on about usb stuffs
[13:29] <Cody> ＃ubuntu-cn
[13:30] <Gonen> Hey people.
[13:30] <Gonen> I am new to linux ,
[13:30] <Gonen> I got kubuntu version 8.04 and I am using kde 3.5
[13:30] <Gonen> yesterday I changed the resolution to 1024x786.
[13:30] <Gonen> everything was OK , and than I rebooted my computer,
[13:30] <Gonen> than , after the I logged on , all the task bars of all the windows disappeared.
[13:30] <Gonen> all the windows dont have taskbars, and its really annoying...
[13:30] <Gonen> and the font in pidgin here is suddenly very small.
[13:30] <Gonen> here are some pictures to show you the problem.
[13:30] <Gonen> http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3285/35628024sh4.jpg
[13:30] <Gonen> http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1291/34931524ff2.jpg
[13:31] <Gonen> http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/936/96312283ss6.jpg
[13:31] <Gonen> Anyone know what to do?
[13:31] <Gonen> Big thanks for the helpers.
[13:33] <Gonen> Anyone
[13:34] <gblanda> hello
[13:34] <Dr_willis> 'task bars of all the windows' ---> you mean the TITLE bars at the top?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> Gonen: you on an nvidia card per chance?
[13:34] <Gonen> yes
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> they are called window decorators
[13:34] <Gonen> sorry
[13:34] <Gonen> I meant
[13:34] <Gonen> title
[13:34] <Gonen> bars
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> Gonen: you need a line in xorg.conf. I'll just get it you
[13:35] <Dr_willis> You are not trying to use 'compiz' are you?
[13:35] <Gonen> what is compiz?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[13:35] <Gonen> and what do I need to do?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> guess you are not. :) heh
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> Gonen: http://pastebin.com/f37bf588
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> Gonen: copy line 82 to your screen section in xorg.conf you will need ksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit it
[13:37] <Gonen> Okay , I will try
[13:37] <Gonen> thank you
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> oops not ksudo
[13:37] <s0undt3ch> ppl, why can't I download/install new Icon packs?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> im all over today
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:37] <s0undt3ch> intrepid, kde 4.1.3
[13:37] <Dr_willis> many iconpacks may be for the older kde3
[13:38]  * ActionParsnip1 gets a -1 point
[13:38] <Gibon> Dr_willis: i have run checkdisk from windows and i have many errors in partition
[13:38] <s0undt3ch> Dr_willis: sure, ain't there a way to filter out <4.1 packs?
[13:39] <Dr_willis> s0undt3ch,  i imagine it depends on what/where you are looking...
[13:39] <Dr_willis> Gibon,  thats not a good sign.
[13:39] <s0undt3ch> Dr_willis: I'm using kde to do that
[13:39] <Dr_willis> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Crystal+Diamond+Icons?content=92163
[13:39] <Dr_willis> using kde HOW to do that...
[13:39] <Gibon> Dr_willis: i know
[13:39] <s0undt3ch> Dr_willis: and actually there's a KDE4 icon pack which aparently dowloads but never gets added to the available list
[13:40] <Dr_willis> s0undt3ch,  sounds like a bug to me then.
[13:40]  * Dr_willis finds lots of bugs/issues with kde4 :(
[13:40] <s0undt3ch> Dr_willis: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Get New Themes
[13:41] <Dr_willis> Not in KDE4 right now.. so i cant check. sorry s0undt3ch  if those are comming from the kde-look.org web site.. that place is known to have miss-done packages
[13:41] <s0undt3ch> Dr_willis: this is a fress install of intrepid, previously I had upgraded from hardy and it worked(well this part at least)
[13:41] <Gibon> Dr_willis: chdsk deleted registration from index $0 from file 25
[13:46] <Dr_Willis64> In KDE 4.1 now. :) where was that theme download thing.
[13:50]  * ActionParsnip1 is wonderig if Gonen will return....
[13:51] <Dr_Willis64> well i cant getg any of the icon themes to download at all.. the color schemes did work
[13:52] <Dr_Willis64> looks like kde4 is crashing on me also...
[13:56] <Dr_Willis64> Noticeing some really annoying quirks on my Ubuntu+Kubuntu system.. If i set the default file manager to Konqueror in KDE4 it also sets it  to Konqueror under Gnome.. if i change gnomes default to Nautilus, or rox-filer  .. it also sets it in KDE
[13:56] <Dr_Willis64> So i end up either running Konqueror/Dolphin in gnome.. or Nautilus in KDE.
[13:57] <Dr_Willis64> also noticed all the gnome-auto starting apps are also auto-starting i KDE4.. still not sure how its doing that either.
[13:58] <Gibon> Dr_willis:its works
[13:59] <Dr_Willis64> Great... err.. what works?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis64> :P
[13:59] <Gibon> Dr_Willis thx for help
[13:59] <Gibon> ntfs
[14:00] <Dr_Willis64> wee
[14:00] <Gibon> Dr_willis: thx for help
[14:00] <Dr_Willis64> No problem...
[14:01]  * Dr_Willis64 sends Gibon  the bill.
[14:01] <Dr_Willis64> :P
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> winner
[14:01] <Gibon> Dr_willis: :D
[14:01] <Dr_Willis64> and the answer was 'reboot to windows, scan the drives, reboot back to linux' ?
[14:01] <Gibon> yes
[14:01] <mdf> hello
[14:01] <Gibon> i have errors on ntfs partition
[14:02] <mdf> anyone else experiencing garbled fonts in non-kde4 apps since 8.10?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis64> Not noticed that issue mdf  sorry.
[14:03] <mdf> ok, thanks anyway
[14:05] <broox> hola munso
[14:05] <broox> mundo
[14:05] <Pici> !es
[14:06] <broox> ok
[14:06] <broox> i need help on kubuntu compiz fusion
[14:06] <broox> hellp
[14:06] <broox> hello
[14:06] <broox> any one there?
[14:07] <broox> any one there?
[14:07] <broox> im new in linux
[14:07] <christ> Morning
[14:08] <christ> i have a doubt, can somebody help me?
[14:08] <broox> hey
[14:08] <broox> any one there?
[14:08] <genii> broox: You can find help in channel of #compiz-fusion
[14:08] <bazhang> broox, compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[14:08] <bazhang> oops
[14:09] <genii> bazhang: :)
[14:09] <broox> ok ok
[14:09] <broox> but
[14:09] <bazhang> broox, easy on the enter key
[14:09] <broox> i've gotten yet
[14:09] <christ> here, i have a doubt, i'm using HH and i want to upgrade it to II from an alternate CD
[14:09] <bazhang> christ, you wish to upgrade?
[14:09] <broox> bot i think that no release to kubuntu
[14:10] <christ> yes bazhang
[14:10] <broox> on compiz
[14:10] <broox> the compiz packet make errors in my OS
[14:10] <bazhang> broox, please rephrase and keep it on one line
[14:11] <broox> ok
[14:11] <bazhang> christ, so what is the problem
[14:11] <broox> look
[14:11] <broox> i had installed the compiz fusion
[14:11] <christ> bazhang: is that i wish to upgrade to 8.10 but from an alternate CD
[14:11] <broox> in my kubuntu 8 hardy
[14:11] <bazhang> christ, you need to download the cd you know
[14:12] <christ> i already have the ISO bazhang
[14:12] <broox> what CD?
[14:12] <bazhang> christ, then burn the iso to cd and upgrade
[14:12] <christ> but, how can i do it?
[14:12] <broox> but in the webpage of the compiz
[14:12] <christ> i mean, after burn it
[14:12] <broox> says thats not possible
[14:13] <bazhang> christ, boot from the cd
[14:13] <broox> the installation on kubuntu
[14:13] <bazhang> broox, what are you talking about?
[14:13] <Dr_willis> I thought one ran the upgrade tool and it saw the cd in the drive...
[14:13] <bazhang> christ, listen to Dr_willis here :)
[14:13] <christ> Dr_willis: is that possible without burn the CD?
[14:13] <broox> im talkin about compiz
[14:14] <bazhang> broox, please state your problem on ONE line.
[14:14] <broox> i cannot install in kubuntu, my versionis 8.04.1
[14:14] <Dr_willis> christ,  no idea.. try mounting the iso file and see
[14:14] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> broox: what does it say when you try?
[14:14] <broox> ok
[14:14] <bazhang> broox, sure you can
[14:14] <bazhang> just open up adept and install it broox
[14:14] <christ> Dr_willis:  but if i do that command, is not going to use the internet?
[14:15] <mdf> http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=garbledfontsamarokkv4.png   <- this is how my non-kde4 apps show fonts. also, it seems to only happen on nvidia drivers and not nv. any ideas on how to fix this? i still need the nvidia drivers...
[14:15] <broox> the installation make many errors
[14:15] <Dr_Willis64> hmmm
[14:15] <Dr_willis> christ,  no idea.. i rarely bother with upgrades
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> broox: what does it say?
[14:15] <christ> ok, let me try
[14:15] <Dr_willis> christ,  theres supposed tobe a way it can get the updates from the cd.. if its seen
[14:15] <Dr_willis> this i hear ONLY works with the alternative installer cd
[14:15] <broox> it says
[14:16] <broox> nothing
[14:16] <christ> Dr_willis: i already have the alternate CD
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> broox: run compiz --replace from terminal
[14:16] <Dr_willis> christ,  then burn it, or mount it.. and check that !upgrade url
[14:16] <broox> neither
[14:16] <broox> i had tryed
[14:17] <broox> do that... but I received a message from command lie
[14:17] <broox> ne
[14:17] <broox> line
[14:18] <broox> it says that not repository to "kubuntu" that is not compatible with KDE
[14:18] <jb-firefoxx> broox whats your problem?
[14:18] <Next1> I am running Kubuntu 8.10 on a Fujitsu laptop.  The lower half of the screen blinks about every 8 seconds.  How can I fix this?
[14:18] <broox> im trying install the compiz
[14:19] <Next1> Also I am using gdm.
[14:19] <broox> to my version a kubuntu the compiz fusion makes many errors
[14:19] <Dr_willis> Im not sure that fighting with Compiz and KDE4 is a good thing :)
[14:19] <Dr_willis> or was this kde3 you are using?
[14:19] <Next1> actually it does it from the live cd too
[14:19] <broox> im using KDE3.5
[14:20] <broox> must I upgrade to KDE4?
[14:20] <broox> hey doctor willis?
[14:21] <Dr_willis> compiz shoul work with kde3.5 but kde3.5 is on its way out..
[14:22] <Dr_willis> but a lot of people hate kde4.. but kde4 has its own alternative to Compiz....
[14:22] <Dr_willis> so do what you want. :)
[14:24] <christ> Dr_willis: if i upgrade to Intrepid am i going to lose KDE 3 ???
[14:24] <Dr_willis> christ,  Yes.
[14:24] <christ> what if i dont like kde4? what to do?
[14:25] <Dr_willis> Then dont upgrade.....
[14:25] <whiteda> Dr_willis, Do kde 4 apps play well with Gnome?  (ubuntu 8.10)
[14:25] <jb-firefoxx> no
[14:25] <jb-firefoxx> i think u can use kde 4
[14:26] <Dr_willis> kde and gnome apps should play nicely with each other..
[14:26] <Dr_willis> ive had a few odd quirks onmy gnome+kde system here.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> whiteda: you will need gnome libs for gnome apps to run
[14:26] <robin0800> christ: Try a live cd first
[14:26] <christ> robin0800: i've already installed II in VirtualBox
[14:27] <christ> and looks cool
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> whiteda: depends on you stance on bloat
[14:27] <robin0800> christ: Well do you like it or not
[14:27] <whiteda> ActionParsnip1, sure - I am going to load ubuntu 8.10  so I will have all that - Im just wondering if I will have problems running kde4 apps there
[14:28] <christ> i sad, looks cool, but i have not test it 100%
[14:28] <whiteda> got lots of room on the ubuntu partition
[14:28] <whiteda> thanks
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> whiteda: should e fine
[14:29] <Dr_willis> kde4is very much still a work in progress
[14:29] <kni> hi, where is scanning software in Kubuntu Intrepid? I can't find kooka anymore :-\
[14:29] <Dr_willis> !info kooka
[14:29] <Dr_willis> egads :)
[14:29] <robin0800> christ: once you add screen savers and wallpapers its OK
[14:30] <kni> so what should I use?
[14:30] <christ> :P ok man, i'll try it
[14:30] <whiteda> thanks ActionParsnip1 Dr_willis  - I will test the apps one at a time and go forward
[14:30] <root1> hm..--;
[14:30] <ilh> hi, new to kde. is there app such as drapes in gnome to randomly change wallpaper
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> !find scan
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> !scanning
[14:31] <genii-around> !info hppa
[14:31] <genii-around> Hm
[14:31] <root1> not good Kubuntu --;
[14:32] <kni> !find OCR
[14:33] <genii-around> Weird, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/kooka/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 shows kooka exists for Intrepid. Theres even a deb there
[14:33] <genii-around> ( i386 arch )
[14:34] <kni> I have 64bit system :(
[14:35] <genii-around> kni: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/kooka/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1    shows there is also a 64 bit version
[14:37] <TweakingDay> hello
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> genii-around: smooth :)
[14:38] <kni> but kooka is _not_ in repo anyway
[14:38] <kni> can't install via aptitude
[14:39] <genii-around> Looks like it might be part of larger package called kdegraphics
[14:39] <natschil> hello
[14:40] <kni> kdegraphics installs  kcolorchooser{a} kdegraphics kgamma{a} kolourpaint4{a} kruler{a}
[14:41] <natschil> does anyone know if there is a package to compile the ubuntu kernel sources?
[14:41] <kni> kooka isn't in kdegraphics
[14:41] <andylockran> !kooka
[14:41] <andylockran> :(
[14:41] <Pici> !info skanlite
[14:41] <genii-around> Pici: Thanks
[14:42] <Pici> genii-around: thank jussi01
[14:43] <emma> Anyone here have any thoughts on this -- http://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm
[14:43] <kni> thanks, Pici!
[14:43] <Dr_willis> Ive never noticed much benifits from swiftfox.. of course theres also  a lot of flame-wars aboutit. :)
[14:43] <emma> I'm looking for a good way to avoid getting all the GNOME libs by installing firefox
[14:44] <kni> what is configuration tool for scanner in KDE4 ?
[14:44] <emma> If you just install firefox from ubuntu repos, you will get a massive amount of GNOME libs
[14:44] <TweakingDay> new user here. just installed 8.10. after installing nvidia through adept (hardware drivers app didn't work at all) i get a blank screen. recovered using recovery mode's try to fix X. how can i install them?
[14:44] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. firefox just uses the gtk libx i thought..  never noticed.. Im using gnome. :)
[14:44] <jussi01> emma: just apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox
[14:45] <emma> Dr_willis: I see. Yeah it uses gtk libs which is fine, but the Ubuntu packager has set it up so that apt will install all the recommended stuff as well which gives you a TON of GNOME libs
[14:45] <emma> jussi01: i've done something like that with sudo aptitude -R install firefox so that it does not install the ubufox. But then you get strange errors from libonoboui
[14:45] <emma> because there is some file that's missing.
[14:46] <ilh> TweakingDay: No need to enter recovery mode
[14:47] <TweakingDay> ilh: i'm just learning. see recover X, choose recover X. and it did work...
[14:48] <TweakingDay> the problem remains though..
[14:48] <jussi01> emma: Ive used the no instal recommends way, and firefox works fine here
[14:48] <emma> jussi01: okay I'll try that with an -s option too.
[14:48] <ilh> TweakingDay: Now you can enter to graphic mode?
[14:49] <TweakingDay> ilh: yes i'm in usual mode now..
[14:49] <ilh> TweakingDay: OK
[14:50] <TweakingDay> but the drivers are still not installed though....
[14:50] <shiftplusone> Hello, I can't get usb-creator to work with a kubuntu ISO.... anybody who can help?
[14:50] <kni> sorry, what is the tool for scanner configuration in KDE 4.1?
[14:51] <emma> jussi01: that looks promissing.
[14:53] <emma> jussi01: do me a favor and start firefox in a terminal
[14:53] <emma> jussi01: see if you get this error -- (firefox:8627): Gtk-WARNING **: libbonoboui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:53] <ilh> TweakingDay: it should be easy from adept. is there error message
[14:54] <dave_> good morning folks
[14:55] <emma> <voice style="calm_robot"> God morning dave_ </voice>
[14:55] <dave_> morning emma
[14:55] <dave_> so how come theirs so many people on but no one talks
[14:56] <TweakingDay> ilh:  from adept it gave no error but upon reboot showed blank screen. after that i can activate it though the driver app but with the same effect
[14:56] <emma> On IRC it is common to idle and to engage in communication asyncrhonously.
[14:56] <natschil> morning?
[14:56] <dave_> well...it's morning here in the southern part of the U.S. lol
[14:56] <natschil> lol
[14:57] <TweakingDay> morning, night. potato..
[14:57] <dave_> lol
[14:57] <dave_> u must be on the other side of the world
[14:57] <natschil> gmt +2
[14:57] <TweakingDay> no sir, YOU'RE on the other side.
[14:57] <natschil> I think
[14:57] <dave_> ahhhh
[14:57] <dave_> lol
[14:58] <TweakingDay> true. ctcp is not very eh.. clandestine
[14:58] <TweakingDay> now i need to find them options
[14:58] <dave_> so does everyone in here just talk about kubuntu?
[14:58] <TweakingDay> no
[14:59] <TweakingDay> but right now i'm trying to make the system work so i can switch from win
[14:59] <dave_> what probs you having...
[14:59] <TweakingDay> well i'm starting with the basics. so i'm trying to install the nvidia driver
[15:00] <TweakingDay> (with hope that it might fix the flickering lines among other things)
[15:00] <TweakingDay> but they bring me to a blank screen on the grafic part (x, yes?)
[15:01] <dave_> hmmm
[15:01] <TweakingDay> oh yes let me try that. hmm: command not found.
[15:01] <natschil> whats your grphics card?
[15:01] <TweakingDay> 6100 on board
[15:01] <dave_> which nvidia driver are you trying to install?  the one in kubuntu's driver list?
[15:02] <dave_> that's considered proprietary?
[15:02] <TweakingDay> yes
[15:02] <TweakingDay> that one
[15:02] <dave_> sounds like their may be some sort of inconsistency with it...maybe the driver version is too old
[15:02] <dave_> have you tried using the one from nvidia's website?
[15:03] <TweakingDay> havn't tried that.. let's see....
[15:03] <dave_> u just need to know which version you need...x64 or x86
[15:03] <TweakingDay> 177.80?
[15:03] <dave_> lemme check real quick
[15:04] <TweakingDay> thank it is already checked
[15:04] <shreedhar> #dhqifx
[15:04] <jussi01> emma: sorry, no I dont get that error
[15:05] <emma> I get that error now that I installed firefox.
[15:05] <dave_> yes, it's the 177.80 version
[15:06] <dave_> what kind of card do you have?
[15:06] <christ> ehm, good day, i was trying to upgrade to Intrepid from an alternate installation CD, and when i try to add it as a repo i get this error, can somebody help me? http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/623/sinnombregf5.png
[15:06] <natschil> I have no experience with nvidia drivers, but wouldn't sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 work?
[15:07] <TweakingDay> natschil: i've already installed from adept what i guess is the same.. didn't work that well.
[15:07] <dave_> your probably going to have to use the ones from nvidia
[15:07] <emma> jussi01: this is what I'm getting in terminal now -- http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/d78bd090
[15:07] <TweakingDay> downloading as we speak. is there like a general overview guide to linux, to ubuntu...?
[15:07] <dave_> only issue with that is they need to be installed from the shell without X
[15:08] <TweakingDay> i feel like i don't know anything. (which is more or less true)
[15:08] <dave_> if you've never spent much time with linux tweakingday google is about to become your best friend lol
[15:08] <andylockran> TweakingDay: give it time I'm sure you'll feel bette
[15:08] <andylockran> google is very good.. especially the word 'howto'
[15:08] <TweakingDay> must close x, or just switch to tty?
[15:08] <emma> jussi01: maybe it's different because you are using an old kubuntu and I'm using a fresh install
[15:08] <dave_> kubuntu, ubuntu and Suse are about the easiest ones i've found to use
[15:09] <dave_> must close x
[15:09] <andylockran> TweakingDay: what's the prob ?
[15:09] <jussi01> emma: no, this is a last week fresh install
[15:09] <dave_> with tty x is still running
[15:09] <emma> jussi01: what can explain the difference then?
[15:09] <emma> I wonder how do I get rid of those errors.
[15:09] <jussi01> emma: wait a moment please
[15:09] <TweakingDay> no see i know that. it's easy to find instructions to to specific things. but i want some overview like i know the inside of win works, but not here.
[15:09] <emma> jussi01: sure no problem :)
[15:09] <andylockran> TweakingDay: give me two minutes
[15:09] <dave_> that pretty much comes with time
[15:09] <dave_> k
[15:10] <christ> a little help with me now?
[15:10] <TweakingDay> andylockran:  thanks. in the mean time i'll try that driver thing.
[15:10] <dave_> if your running a new release (bleeding edge, imo) your asking for trouble
[15:10] <dave_> it's gonna have bugs
[15:10] <christ> Dr_willis ?
[15:10] <genii-around> dave_: I usually go from LTS to LTS release for that very reason
[15:10] <TweakingDay> dave_: how do i gracefully close x without restarting?
[15:10] <dave_> same here
[15:11] <emma> for christ's sake could someone help him?
[15:11] <TweakingDay> lol@emma
[15:11] <dave_> i believe it's killx
[15:11] <dave_> killX
[15:11] <dave_> something like that
[15:11] <andylockran> TweakingDay: open and terminal and type /etc/init.d/kdm stop.
[15:11] <emma> TweakingDay: :p
[15:11] <dave_> i'm not 100% sure it's not everyday i try to stop x lol
[15:12] <TweakingDay> thanks ok then... brb ... i hope....
[15:12] <dave_> yeah what andy said lmao
[15:12] <genii-around> christ: It hints perhaps your disk is full. What says result of command in Konsole of:    df -h
[15:13] <andylockran> TweakingDay: http://tinyurl.com/24avqb
[15:13] <christ> genii-around: http://pastebin.com/m242994fa
[15:13] <andylockran> right.. who else has problems ?
[15:13] <andylockran> christ: what's the problem?
[15:14] <jussi01> emma: I havent looked at the depends on this, but to fix your issue, install the package: libbonoboui2-0
[15:14] <genii-around> christ: OK. Room on HD is not the problem then.
[15:14] <christ> im trying to upgrade from an alternate cd
[15:14]  * andylockran missed the colon on genii-around and though they were just getting annoyed
[15:14] <emma> jussi01: Now I'm getting this when I navigate to a new site -- (npviewer.bin:8689): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqt4engine.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[15:15] <genii-around> christ: When you created the CD, did you check the MD5 sum of the iso file you made it from?
[15:15] <dave_> andylockran: wow that's a nice guide right there
[15:15] <christ> yes genii-around
[15:15] <emma> christ: before you do the upgrade did you make backups?
[15:15] <jussi01> emma: ahh, that horrible gtk-qt-engine - I hate it and dont have it installed. bit uglier but at least it doesnt break stuff
[15:15] <dave_> brb
[15:15] <andylockran> back in a min
[15:16] <emma> jussi01: ahh. I did not install it. I think it comes with the default fresh install.
[15:16] <christ> wait, just a sec, brb
[15:16] <genii-around> christ: Did you make the CD with checking (to verify was made without errors)
[15:16] <christ> yes genii-around
[15:16] <genii-around> Because "hash mismatch" etc look like file corruption on CD
[15:17] <jussi01> emma: hrm, ok, well actually it is installed here... weird
[15:17] <emma> Yes it's really weird.
[15:17] <emma> I did sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox
[15:18] <genii-around> christ: Did you do:     sudo apt-get update                          after adding the cd as a repository?
[15:18] <emma> It did keep me from getting the ubofox which installs all the GNOME libs. But it gives me this set up with all these errors in terminal.
[15:18] <christ> genii-around: i cant add the cd, when i try i get the error
[15:18] <hpadministrateur> bonjour à tous
[15:18] <TweakingDay> well.. that was quick. it just gave me "can't open" error. it is a .run file?
[15:19] <dave_> yes it is
[15:19] <dave_> sh /nvidia-blahblahblah.run
[15:19] <TweakingDay> exactly
[15:19] <emma> christ: I hope you made backups
[15:19] <TweakingDay> oooohh
[15:19] <christ> why emma?
[15:19] <chris80> comment peut on mettre des widget avec kubuntu
[15:19] <genii-around> christ: Please use pastebin website and show contents of file /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:19] <genii-around> !paste | christ
[15:20] <emma> Because everyone knows christ saves.
[15:20] <TweakingDay> is that / at the beginning necessary even if i switched to the directory it's in?
[15:20] <TweakingDay> lol she keeps going
[15:20] <dave_> lmao
[15:20] <genii-around> !fr | chris80
[15:20] <emma> ty ty i'll be here all week.
[15:21] <christ> genii-around: http://pastebin.com/d7f863318
[15:21] <TweakingDay> really? *weird face* don't you have anywhere to go?
[15:21] <genii-around> christ: Reading
[15:21] <christ> ok
[15:21] <TweakingDay> still: is that / at the beginning necessary even if i switched to the directory it's in?
[15:21] <TweakingDay> still is not a nick, fyi and just in case.
[15:22] <emma> Nope. #kubuntu is pretty much the pinacle of my self-actualisation. I'm fulfilled here.
[15:22] <dave_> yes
[15:22] <dave_> give me a sec
[15:22] <TweakingDay> ok.. so will go try again. brb.
[15:23] <dave_> do it with the ./
[15:23] <dave_> sh ./nvidia.run
[15:23] <TweakingDay> ooh a dot. how did it get there. ok that's great just.. what was the x kill code?
[15:23] <TweakingDay> i'll write it down this time...
[15:25] <emma> jussi01: installing libbonoboui2-0 installs the following GNOME deps -- http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/d50876a08
[15:25] <dave_> TweakingDay: open and terminal and type /etc/init.d/kdm stop.
[15:25] <TweakingDay> nvm found it.
[15:25] <emma> So it seems to me that the ubuntu packagers may have made a mistake and there is a bug in firefox for kubuntu users.
[15:25] <TweakingDay> i was quicker :P
[15:26] <dave_> lol
[15:26] <emma> because why can't kubuntu users get firefox without GNOME libs?
[15:26] <dave_> i'm using firefox 2 right now in kubuntu but i'm running the LTS version
[15:27] <dave_> you pay when you attempt to utilize new releases
[15:28] <emma> <voice style="creepy_calm_computer"> That's a very interesting point dave_ </voice>
[15:28] <TweakingDay> i just installed FF3.0.3 on kubuntu 8.10.. so..... i don't know
[15:28] <TweakingDay> Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).
[15:28] <jussi01> emma: did you install it the way I said?
[15:28] <TweakingDay> in the end i'll just go nuts and.. and.... go back to win. yes i said it.
[15:28] <genii-around> christ: Try closing Adept. Then in Konsole:    sudo apt-cdrom -a -d /media/cdrom0 add
[15:28] <emma> jussi01: yes exactly the way you said.
[15:29] <emma> jussi01: you mean firefox or libbonoboui2-0 ?
[15:29] <jussi01> emma: firefox
[15:29] <emma> I installed firefox, as you suggested, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox
[15:29] <andylockran> hi
[15:30] <jussi01> emma: now install libbonobui the same way
[15:30] <dave_> wow u gave up easy
[15:30] <emma> okay let's see what that does.
[15:31] <christ> genii-around: http://pastebin.com/m2646be1f
[15:31] <dave_> oh...you will go nuts...that's a givin'
[15:31] <dig> !reg
[15:31] <TweakingDay> kdm status says kdm is not running. it does so in konsole window near konversation window with a nice wallpaper and all that!
[15:32] <dave_> might need to just do a restart
[15:32] <dig> hi, anyone knows the regular expression channel?
[15:32] <dave_> try using Fedora and having to rebuild all your packages for mp3 support and the like ;)
[15:32] <dave_> u found it...we are regularly expressing ourselves here lol
[15:32] <TweakingDay> "/ch[ea]nnel/"
[15:33] <TweakingDay> lol
[15:33] <TweakingDay> i'll go reboot
[15:33] <dave_> k
[15:33] <jonasbet> HOLA
[15:33] <emma> jussi01: doing sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends libbonobo2-0 will install the following GNOME deps -- libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
[15:33] <dave_> hello
[15:33] <jonasbet> hi
[15:33] <jonasbet> what is this?
[15:34] <dave_> a chat channel
[15:34] <jonasbet> a channel for help?
[15:34] <jonasbet> kubuntu?
[15:34] <dave_> sure...if someone will help you lol
[15:34] <dave_> yes
[15:34] <emma> jonasbet: animal mineral or vegetable?
[15:34] <jonasbet> ohhh its great
[15:34] <jonasbet> where r u dave?
[15:34] <dave_> meataterrian
[15:34] <dave_> in Tennessee
[15:34] <dave_> i'm actually inside your computer right now
[15:34] <jonasbet> are american using linux?
[15:35] <jussi01> !ot
[15:35] <dave_> i'm taking your ram out as we speak
[15:35] <dave_> lol
[15:35] <jonasbet> taking my ram?
[15:35] <emma> I wonder if a Kubuntu motu could make a Kfirefox package for us, because there is a bug in the firefox package for Ubuntu.
[15:35] <jonasbet> for what?
[15:35] <dave_> i'm kidding with you bro
[15:35] <jonasbet> jaja
[15:35] <jonasbet> im new with linux
[15:35] <dave_> yes i'm an American using linux...it also runs warcraft well too ;)
[15:35] <emma> Where can I find the Kubuntu MOTUs ?
[15:35] <jussi01> emma: its been discussed previously
[15:35] <jonasbet> it works well
[15:36] <jonasbet> but when you have a problem you need to be engeneer to go trought it
[15:36] <dave_> yes...until you think of doing something cool with it lol
[15:36] <dig> !regular
[15:37] <dave_> where are you from jonasbet?
[15:37] <christ> genii-around did you find the error?
[15:37] <jussi01> Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter! (this channel is for support questions only)
[15:41] <natschil> hello
[15:42] <natschil> i'm just wondering what the dependencies for building plasmoids are
[15:43] <dave_> u need uranium and a mixer...other etc lol
[15:43] <TweakingDay> so...
[15:44] <dave_> how'd it go man?
[15:44] <TweakingDay> a man reboots. and guess what
[15:44] <TweakingDay> same error
[15:44] <dave_> oh nooooooooooooooooo
[15:44] <TweakingDay> oh noes.
[15:44] <JontheEchidna> natschil: installing libplasma-dev and  kdebase-workspace-dev should do it
[15:44] <natschil> thx
[15:45] <christ> genii-around: forget it: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[15:45] <TweakingDay> oh and it turns out i'm running vesa not nv driver atm.
[15:45] <dave_> wow that really blows
[15:45] <Dr_willis> Ive notied the live cd does that on my 2 ubuntu machines also.
[15:45] <Dr_willis> had to tweak the xorg.conf and restart the X server on the live cd
[15:46] <genii-around> Back
[15:47] <genii-around> christ: Apologies, work required me for a time
[15:47] <christ> NP genii-around
[15:48] <genii-around> christ: Is the method described on the upgrade page working for you?
[15:49] <christ> apartently
[15:49] <christ> let me try
[15:52] <dave_> brbg
[15:52] <dave_> brb
[15:52] <christ> genii-around: is working ^^
[15:54] <genii-around> christ: Ah, good :)
[15:54] <TEUTATEX> hello
[15:54] <Bsims> Is apt.personcomputing down?
[15:54] <christ> genii-around: thanks for all your attention ^^
[15:54] <genii-around> !hi
[15:54] <genii-around> christ: I'm just glad your issue is resolved
[15:54] <christ> ^^
[15:54] <TEUTATEX> just trying to install kubuntu to my laptop
[15:55]  * Bsims grrs my kde 3.5 repository for intrepid is now 404
[15:56] <TEUTATEX> download ok. but when burning image to cd, "not enuf space" happens
[15:56] <TEUTATEX> why?
[15:56] <TweakingDay> did you check md5?
[15:56] <TEUTATEX> wait...
[15:57] <TEUTATEX> nope. did not
[15:57] <TweakingDay> regardless it's a good thing to do.
[15:57] <yeniklasor> shutdown -t 1000 -h   is not working, what is true code?
[15:57] <TweakingDay> i suggest you compare the md5 of the downloaded image with what it should be
[15:58] <genii-around> TEUTATEX: Perhaps checkthe Laptop Testing Team page also to see if there are specific issues with your model
[15:58] <genii-around> TEUTATEX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[16:00] <zsolti> hi everybody
[16:00] <TEUTATEX> the issue I have is about burnin' the image cd
[16:00] <TweakingDay> maybe you're using 650 cd?
[16:00] <TweakingDay> zsolti: hi
[16:01] <genii-around> Perhaps you downloaded a DVD image
[16:01] <TEUTATEX> no. cd-image & 650 CD
[16:01] <TEUTATEX> lol
[16:01] <zsolti> i have some problem with windows wireless drivers software, Can anyone help me?
[16:01] <TweakingDay> so it is 650?
[16:01] <Bsims> Anyone know a tool that I can turn loose to automate building of kde from source? prefer it left a folder full of debs when it got finished
[16:01] <TEUTATEX> yup
[16:01] <TweakingDay> because the images are 700....
[16:01] <genii-around> TEUTATEX: The CD image is like 704Mb or so
[16:01] <TEUTATEX> noticed that
[16:01] <TweakingDay> so there's your reason
[16:02] <dave_> wow teakingday your on it bro
[16:02] <TEUTATEX> thanks dudes!
[16:02] <TweakingDay> so you can't burn it to a 650
[16:02] <TweakingDay> yw TEUTATEX
[16:02] <TweakingDay> dave_:  on what?
[16:02] <TEUTATEX> gonna burn now. c ya
[16:02] <TweakingDay> bye
[16:03] <genii-around> Bsims: I'm not sure any such animal exists
[16:03] <dave_> on the whole cd iso issue
[16:04] <TweakingDay> dave_: btw, the prob is as was. i'm basically doing nothing right now.
[16:04] <dave_> lol...well i'm going to feed the kid and i'll be back in a few
[16:04] <TweakingDay> no the kid can wait.
[16:04] <TweakingDay> i want want my driver :P
[16:05] <Bsims> Darn genii-around
[16:06] <Bsims> Well see my kde 3.5 repository for Ibex went 404, and kde 4.1 is too unstable/gives me hives to use
[16:06] <dave_> lol
[16:07] <genii-around> Bsims: There is no 3.5 for 8.10 but there is some workaround... the link was given here recently but I do not have a record right now of it...1 minute
[16:07] <Bsims> I have the link its coming up 404
[16:08] <genii-around> Bsims: Thats because there is no repo of 3.5 for Intrepid
[16:08] <Bsims> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ had one its 404 currently
[16:08] <Bsims> I was wanting to build my own repo
[16:11] <Bsims> genii-around: I know how to build from source I was wanting something that would work recursivly and crap out a pile of debs for me
[16:15] <jabapyth> i just installed Intrepid from the CD, and the Splash screen is freezing. The hard drive-looking thing appears, then a few other icons half-fade in, and the whole thing just stops. Any tips?
[16:17] <jabapyth> hmm...now if I try clicking on the splash screen before anything loads...i get the desktop, but then that freezes as soon as a little "lightbulb" icon appears in the system tray...
[16:17] <jabapyth> does anyone know what a "lightbulb icon" in the system tray means?
[16:18] <jussi01> jabapyth: click it and see :D
[16:18] <jabapyth> I cant
[16:18] <jabapyth> the desktop freezes
[16:18] <jussi01> jabapyth: really?
[16:18] <jabapyth> ya
[16:18] <jabapyth> i can move the mouse, but thats it
[16:18] <edi_99> Hi guys. What must I install to get Java applets working in mozilla
[16:19] <jussi01> jabapyth: anywya, its just a notification of some sort of stuff that is good to know after an update/install of some software
[16:19] <jabapyth> edi_99: search for "java" in the add/remove programs. install the java browser plugin
[16:19] <edi_99> 'cuz I have java 6 jdk & i've just installed sun-java plugins for mozilla
[16:19] <jabapyth> and it still doesnt work?
[16:19] <edi_99> no
[16:20] <edi_99> i've used command sudo ... sun-java6-plugin
[16:20] <jussi01> edi_99: install kubuntu-restricted-extras - gets you flash, java, mp3 support and other stuff
[16:21] <edi_99> do I just tipe sudo..kubuntu rest...
[16:21] <edi_99> type*
[16:21] <jabapyth> ya, to install 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[16:25] <TweakingDay> hello
[16:25] <TweakingDay> again
[16:26] <jussi01> TweakingDay: hi!
[16:26]  * Tm_T hides
[16:26] <ovidiubodea> hy
[16:26] <TweakingDay> still can see you
[16:26] <jussi01> TweakingDay: everything ok?
[16:26] <TweakingDay> ok, any ideas on this flickering lines as you type thing?
[16:27] <TweakingDay> jussi01: in the general sense, yes, in the ubuntu sense not at all.
[16:27] <jussi01> TweakingDay: please tell me more, your graphicard, driver etc?
[16:27] <TweakingDay> sure.
[16:28] <TweakingDay> the card is 6100 nvidia onboard.
[16:28] <TweakingDay> the current drv is vesa.
[16:28] <TweakingDay> i was trying to install the NV proprietary but was not successfull even with the kind help of people here.
[16:28] <jussi01> TweakingDay: ok, kubuntu version?
[16:29] <TweakingDay> 8.10
[16:29] <TweakingDay> and a new (now less) eager user.
[16:29] <jussi01> TweakingDay: ok, lets try get this fixed.
[16:29] <TweakingDay> right now i have the .run file from NV site. but when i try to sh it, it just says not found.
[16:29] <TweakingDay> i'd be ever so greatful
[16:30] <NetersLandreau> hi.. does anyone use Xdebug? apache keeps giving me a seg fault when i try to run code coverage..
[16:30] <genii-around> Did you try    ./filename      instead of sh filename           ?
[16:30] <TweakingDay> indeed i did
[16:30] <jussi01> TweakingDay: ok, so what happens when you go to kmenu, system, harware drivers
[16:30] <TweakingDay> with sudo too
[16:30] <NetersLandreau> i'm running xdebug 2.1.0-dev and php -m shows it loaded correctly
[16:31] <jussi01> TweakingDay: Ill walk you through several diferent ways, starting with the recommended ways
[16:31] <genii-around> TweakingDay: Did you sudo chmod +x    the .run  file?
[16:32] <cant_login> laptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help
[16:32] <TweakingDay> jussi01: ok, i should also tell that when i selected the driver from that app, it seemed to have worked (after manual install of drivers from adept) but when rebooted it gave a blank screen.
[16:32] <jussi01> TweakingDay: ok
[16:33] <TweakingDay> genii-around: i did not, i afraid have no idea what that means
[16:33] <jussi01> TweakingDay: do you have another pc to talk to me from if something goes wrong?
[16:33] <TweakingDay> nope..
[16:33] <genii-around> TweakingDay: It means to make the file executable
[16:33] <TweakingDay> but i can recover using fix org from recover mode :)
[16:34] <jabapyth> jussi01: i fixed it. I just ran a sudo apt-get upgrade, and there a bunch of updates. now it works! :D
[16:34] <jussi01> jabapyth: great :D
[16:34] <jussi01> TweakingDay: ok. when you say blank screen, what do you mean?
[16:34] <TweakingDay> genii-around: so the command is just: chmod +x filename?
[16:35] <TweakingDay> jussi01: i mean black. showing nothing. but i was able to switch to tty
[16:35] <jussi01> TweakingDay: lets go through this first, then jhave a look at genii-around's solution, ok?
[16:35] <TweakingDay> ah yes.. i appreciate all your help but can't do two things at once...
[16:35] <genii-around> TweakingDay: No, you require sudo as the way I showed. But perhaps follow jussi01 first
[16:35] <jason__> anyone how to change the clock to 12 hr.instead of 24
[16:35]  * Aelwyn is away: Ausente por el momento
[16:36] <jussi01> jason__: hardy or intrepid?
[16:36] <jason__> hardy
[16:36] <jussi01> TweakingDay: so please enable the driver through the hardware drivers app
[16:37] <TweakingDay> jussi01: ok. it says that i have to restart.
[16:37] <jussi01> TweakingDay: if it then comes up blank screen, try going and logging into the tty and running: sudo nvidia-xoconfig
[16:37] <jussi01> then reboot again
[16:37] <TweakingDay> aha ok.. that was my next q
[16:37] <jussi01> :)
[16:37] <jussi01> wait TweakingDay!
[16:37] <TweakingDay> no o there?
[16:37] <TweakingDay> :)
[16:37] <jussi01> its: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:37] <jussi01> typo'd ;)
[16:38] <jussi01> :D
[16:38] <TweakingDay> ok, brb. (i hope)
[16:38] <jussi01> :D
[16:38] <cant_login> laptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help
[16:38] <jussi01> jason__: dont remember in hardy, its eiither in system settings - time and date? or tight click the clock
[16:38] <jussi01> right*
[16:40] <rafi> hello
[16:41] <rafi> i need help ?
[16:41] <jussi01> !ask | rafi
[16:41] <chris80> bonjour
[16:42] <jussi01> !fr | chris80
[16:42] <rafi> do you speak french
[16:42] <rafi> do you speak french ?
[16:42] <trappist> !fr
[16:43] <rafi> !quit
[16:43] <rafi> !leave
[16:43] <trappist> rafi: /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:44] <technikk> hello everyone
[16:44] <technikk> best regards from serbia :)
[16:45] <genii-around> technikk: Welcome to the Kubuntu support channel. Is there some issue with your Kubuntu requiring assistance?
[16:45] <TweakingDay> tada
[16:46] <jussi01> TweakingDay: worked?
[16:46] <TweakingDay> nope :D
[16:46] <theconqueror> Hi everybody...
[16:46] <jussi01> oh :/
[16:46] <technikk> genii-around, not for now, anyway tnx for the help :)
[16:46] <TweakingDay> but
[16:46] <TweakingDay> i noticed something
[16:46] <jussi01> which is?
[16:47] <TweakingDay> it's not exactly black screen
[16:47] <TweakingDay> there's like a thin line at the top
[16:47] <jussi01> ok?
[16:47] <TweakingDay> and i think that moving the mouse moved some pixel there
[16:47] <TweakingDay> that's it sorry
[16:48] <dave_> did u get it fixed tweakingday?
[16:48] <TweakingDay> dave_:  afraid not
[16:48] <dave_> TweakingDay: just open the side of the case and take a paper clip to your motherboard that will fix it lmao
[16:48] <TweakingDay> jussi01: the nvidia-xconfig did work but mainly said something about sections not found...
[16:49] <cant_login> laptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help
[16:49] <TweakingDay> dave_: i told you: i'm new to linux. can you show me on your pc how it's done? :D
[16:49] <davison> e ae galera alguem fala portugues aew?
[16:49] <jussi01> TweakingDay: can you try something for me? there are updated nvidia drivers in the propsed repository - they work well - I have them at home, perhaps you could enable that repo and try them perhaps?
[16:49] <TweakingDay> jus
[16:49] <genii-around> !pt | davison
[16:50] <TweakingDay> jussi01:  i d/l them through the what's the name
[16:50] <TweakingDay> adept
[16:50] <TweakingDay> wait, in the which rep exactly?
[16:50] <jussi01> TweakingDay: in proposed repo
[16:51] <TweakingDay> ooh now that might be something else. lemme check.
[16:51] <TweakingDay> i see main, universe, restricted, multi?
[16:51] <jussi01> TweakingDay: go to adept, sources, edit sources, updates tab, click them all
[16:51] <TweakingDay> ah there
[16:52] <jussi01> then update
[16:52] <TweakingDay> working.....
[16:52] <dave_> TweakingDay: i don't think so bro lol
[16:52] <TweakingDay> dave_: are you sure?
[16:52] <jussi01> ok, then try re enabluing them in hardware drivers
[16:52] <TweakingDay> we can make screenshots
[16:53] <TweakingDay> eta 0.5 min
[16:53] <dave_> TweakingDay: lmao....nah that's alright
[16:53] <jussi01> TweakingDay: he was joking...
[16:53] <TweakingDay> jussi01: so was i... so was i... :D
[16:54] <TweakingDay> i havn't used irc in ages... ah the memmories
[16:54] <jussi01> rofl
[16:54] <dave_> lmfao
[16:54] <TweakingDay> ok a small issue here
[16:55] <TweakingDay> after enabling all the updates sources and letting it get the list
[16:55] <jussi01> ?
[16:55] <TweakingDay> it shows 108 new updates available
[16:55] <jussi01> yes, thats likely.
[16:55] <TweakingDay> now, they don't install by themselves but..?
[16:55] <jussi01> TweakingDay: exit adept
[16:56] <jussi01> TweakingDay: then just click the little green/grey cog/arrow in your tray
[16:57] <TweakingDay> ok..
[16:57] <TweakingDay> now that i've selected it to upgrade, in preview i have a rather long list..?
[16:57] <jussi01> yes, likely
[16:57] <TweakingDay> so let it all upgrade too?
[16:57] <TweakingDay> or unselect?
[16:58] <jussi01> TweakingDay: up to you, but I have all those updates and running fine.
[16:58] <dave_> TweakingDay: just use the darn paperclip!
[16:58] <dave_> lol
[16:58] <TweakingDay> dave_: lol
[16:58]  * jussi01 slaps dave_ :D
[16:58] <dave_> lmao
[16:59] <cant_login> laptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password & drop right back to login again.  can log into tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user also accepts password at login & drops back to blank login window.  Please help
[16:59] <TweakingDay> i'm upgrading only the drv
[16:59] <jussi01> TweakingDay: ok.
[16:59] <dave_> someone should tell cant_login to use a paperclip on his machine too
[17:00] <cant_login> jussi01, dave_, any ideas what might be casuing my issue..any packages you can thin of resinstalling??
[17:00] <jussi01> TweakingDay: I think those updates are to update to 4.1.3, which is a good thing
[17:00] <genii-around> cant_login: You are selecting from kdm sessions list the type of kde and not console login when entering your username/pass ?
[17:00] <TweakingDay> dave_: i found you something: http://tinyurl.com/6rdr9y
[17:01] <cant_login> it seems i can do anything from a command line.. i just can't log into kdm, if i switch the session to gdm, same thing.. can't get past the login window
[17:01] <nt> Bizde Varız Bu Alemde..!
[17:01] <reanimation> hi guys
[17:01] <TweakingDay> hey
[17:01] <cant_login> hello
[17:01] <dave_> TweakingDay: what's that?
[17:01] <reanimation> this is my first time in irc please guide me
[17:01] <TweakingDay> take a look
[17:02] <dave_> cant_login: take a look at what?
[17:02] <reanimation> plz tell me about this
[17:02] <dave_> TweakingDay: lmfao...that is awesome
[17:02] <TweakingDay> we're all expecting live feed as you apply it
[17:03] <nt> hi
[17:03] <dave_> reanimation: this is my first time since i've used IRC in years...so i'm no good to ya...google it man
[17:03] <dave_> TweakingDay: sure thing buddy...i'm going to get right on that *dave sets up cameras*
[17:04] <TweakingDay> dave, you're not supposed to be drinking that early. he's not asking for help with irc.
[17:04] <reanimation> hey guys plz visit this website www.opensourcex.tk
[17:04] <TweakingDay> and i'm rebooting
[17:04] <dave_> [11:01] <reanimation> this is my first time in irc please guide me
[17:04] <dave_> that's what he said teakingday
[17:05] <genii-around> reanimation: Do you have some Kubuntu support issue?
[17:06] <reanimation> a
[17:06] <jussi01> reanimation: please dont spam us in here ;)
[17:06] <dave_> lol
[17:07] <dave_> Gain five inches instantly!....
[17:07] <dave_> on your Big Toe....
[17:07] <dave_> lmao
[17:07] <genii-around> reanimation: If you have no support question, please visit instead channel #kubuntu-offtopic   for casual talk
[17:07] <reanimation> guy's this website is created by me to support linux in & opensource in india plz take a look and give your suggestions
[17:08] <jussi01> dave_: Id suggest heading over to #kubuntu-offtopic - more fun for general chatter in there.
[17:08] <genii-around> reanimation: Again, it is not a support area which is appropriate for asking this
[17:08] <jussi01> reanimation: #kubuntu-offtopic then please.
[17:08] <reanimation> okay guys have a nice day
[17:09] <reanimation> human knowledge belongs to the world
[17:10] <dave_> oh c'mon i was just kidding
[17:10] <jussi01> dave_: I know, but we need to keep this channel pretty strictly ontopic ;)
[17:11] <dave_> k...then how do i select my compiz effects....(seriously)
[17:11] <dave_> i have them on but i have no wobbly windows or anythign
[17:11] <jussi01> dave_: on kde4?
[17:12] <dave_> no 3.5
[17:12] <TweakingDay> well
[17:12] <TweakingDay> at least the xfix still works :)
[17:12] <jussi01> dave_: and you have compiz instgalled?P
[17:12] <delicowa> will somebody tell me how to get kde4. I am kinda too lazy to google
[17:12] <dave_> jussi01: i'm in the compize desktop effects right now
[17:12] <TweakingDay> you can't be lazy on linux
[17:12] <jussi01> delicowa: install kubuntu 8.10?
[17:12] <TweakingDay> it's an inherent incompatibility
[17:13] <jussi01> dave_: so you have install ccsm and are in it?
[17:13] <TweakingDay> dave_:  you don't have to rub it in
[17:13] <delicowa> thanks jussi01
[17:13] <dave_> TweakingDay: lol
[17:13] <dave_> jussi01: yes it is installed
[17:14] <jussi01> dave_: just alt+f2: ccsm'
[17:14] <jussi01> dave_: just alt+f2: ccsm
[17:14] <jussi01> iirc
[17:14] <delicowa> is any body getting display problems with the new kernel . it is just simply horrible when I play videos and wine games
[17:14] <dave_> it opened up konqueror and tried to go to a website
[17:15] <jussi01> err?
[17:16] <dave_> jussi01: well actually it opened up the run window...i typed in ccsm and hit enter and then it opened konqueror and tried searching ccsm
[17:16] <jussi01> oh I really dont remember, I use kde4 now..
[17:16] <jussi01> :(
[17:16] <jussi01> genii-around: any recollections?
[17:17] <TweakingDay> um\
[17:17] <TweakingDay> so. any other ideas?
[17:17] <cant_login> genii-around, yes, kdm & gdm login do the same thing, the screen goes black like it usually does after i put in the password, but instead of the kde loading window, i get the login screen again
[17:17] <TweakingDay> that paper clip starting to look good
[17:18] <dave_> TweakingDay: lol
[17:18] <genii-around> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:19] <genii-around> dave_: Do you have that package installed? (or simple-ccsm)
[17:19] <dave_> checking now
[17:21] <dave_> oh snap guys that did it!
[17:21] <genii-around> cant_login: I think you have a stale lockfile someplace in /var/run relating to X
[17:21] <delicowa> I ordered hardy heron august and I have installed it
[17:21] <TweakingDay> i'm happy for you dave_
[17:21] <delicowa> do you suppose it would be ok to request for intrepid
[17:22] <dave_> TweakingDay: well i feel terrible cause your still all jacked up over there
[17:22] <jussi01> delicowa: yeah, probably
[17:23] <TweakingDay> yes, i was going for that :P
[17:23] <TweakingDay> no, i'm jk...
[17:23] <jussi01> TweakingDay: so how did it go? updated yet?
[17:23] <TweakingDay> well it didn't work
[17:23] <TweakingDay> same results
[17:24] <luca_> !lisrt
[17:24] <luca_> !list
[17:24] <jussi01> TweakingDay:  :(
[17:24] <TweakingDay> if it's installing but makes use of weird config maybe i can edit something from the tty?
[17:25] <TweakingDay> or how about that chmod thing?
[17:25] <genii-around> cant_login: Please install package pastebinit by:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit           then use that to show us the contents of file:  ~/.xsession-errors         by:  cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[17:25] <cant_login> genii-around.. i am very unfamiliar with the lockfiles.. the only time i ever see that is when i accidentally try to run two apt-get installs at once.  can you help me with that a little more?
[17:25] <delicowa> @jussi01:Sorry to bother you. the hardy I have is gnome from cd.but I downloaded and installed kde(kubuntu).do you suppose the upgrade to intrepid will give me KDE4...although I am still doing the upgrade.. stuffs seems to be a bit slow around here today
[17:26] <cant_login> well.. i can't copy & paste because i can't login far enough to copy anything genii
[17:26] <cant_login> well.. i can't copy & paste because i can't login far enough to copy anything genii-around
[17:26] <jussi01> delicowa: yes, it should
[17:26] <cant_login> i can install that package via tty.. i'm just not sure how to do anything with it from there
[17:26] <dave_> now how do I have four desktops instead of two?
[17:27] <genii-around> cant_login: pastebinit is a COMMAND LINE pastebin
[17:27] <delicowa> @jussi01: thanks a lot I'll just wait for it
[17:27] <cant_login> ohh.. alright.. give me a min
[17:27] <p_masho> how do I enable the hardy-backports repos ?
[17:27] <TweakingDay> dave_: right click the choose thing
[17:27] <TweakingDay> configure desktops
[17:27] <delicowa> @p_masho
[17:28] <p_masho> DO i have to add it the te repositories ?
[17:28] <jussi01> p_masho: open adept, sources, edit sources, updates tab
[17:28] <dave_> TweakingDay: Did that already and set the number of Desktops to 4 but it keeps reverting back to 2
[17:28] <p_masho> ie unsupported updates..
[17:29] <delicowa> or on gnome system-administrator-software sources
[17:29] <p_masho> Or can i just make the main repos "intrepid" ?
[17:29] <TweakingDay> oh. then you'll have to wait for line 2 support :P
[17:29] <Copelia> !fr
[17:29] <cant_login> alright.. issued command "cat ~/.xsession-errors
[17:29] <p_masho> jussi01: but I got no entry in there for hardy-backports
[17:30] <dave_> TweakingDay: lol...will the paperclip answer for tier 2 support? lol
[17:30] <cant_login> alright.. issued command "cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit" recieved "KeyboardInterrupt caught." & dropped me back to prompt
[17:30] <JasonCO> where can i edit the settings for the menu entries on my K menu?
[17:30] <delicowa> please can any body tell me why my firefox is slowing down
[17:30] <genii-around> cant_login: The command is:     cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[17:30] <TweakingDay> dave_: no no ...that's at level 5-6
[17:30] <cant_login> said "KeyboardInterrupt caught." then back to prompt
[17:30] <jussi01> p_masho: unsupported updates ;)
[17:30] <genii-around> cant_login: Then give us URL it says of pastebin address it shows you
[17:30] <cant_login> ohh.. alright
[17:30] <TweakingDay> delicowa: define slowing down please
[17:31] <delicowa> open k-menu and  right-click on the left edge you should see edit menu
[17:31] <p_masho> got that.. but it doesnt give me kde 4.1.3 ;-(
[17:31] <delicowa> whe I type in an address it hangs for a while like 20 secs or there about then continues
[17:31] <cant_login> http://pastebin.com/f6e0b4dc1
[17:31] <reanimation> #ubuntu-pk
[17:32] <TweakingDay> does the "awesome bar" seem to be working when you do this?
[17:32] <genii-around> cant_login: Thank you. Reading now
[17:32] <dave_> TweakingDay: "awesome bar" i'm clueless
[17:32] <TweakingDay> awesomebar is the nickname for the address bat in ver 3 FF
[17:33] <TweakingDay> they've added some features. some love it, some hate it.
[17:33] <TweakingDay> i'm more or less ok with it after tweaking it to look like the normal ver 2 bar.
[17:33] <delicowa> no it doesnt...that where it hangs....just when I am entering the address.. and also when I try to save a page
[17:34] <genii-around> cant_login:     rm ~/.DCOPserver_MEDION__0
[17:34] <TweakingDay> so.. you'd type some letters.. it'd hang, and only after a while present the options?
[17:34] <delicowa> yup
[17:34] <TweakingDay> see. awesomebar is not awesome.
[17:35] <delicowa> at all
[17:35] <dave_> ok i still don't have a cube this is ticking me off
[17:35] <TweakingDay> they should fix some things about it in 3.1
[17:35] <delicowa> same thing happens to epiphany too
[17:35] <sandersen> Any Apache wizards in here?
[17:35] <TweakingDay> epiphany would be your hippy aunts child?
[17:36] <dave_> TweakingDay: lmao
[17:36] <cant_login> genii-around.. ~/.DCOPserver_MEDION_0.. no such file or directory
[17:36] <delicowa> lfmao
[17:36] <TweakingDay> don't lmao at me. tell me what to do with this thing!
[17:36] <delicowa> seriously for me to really enjoy fast surfing I have to stick to links for now
[17:36] <dave_> TweakingDay: i told u but you refused to do it lol
[17:36] <genii-around> cant_login: OK, thats fine then. Also it says at that log that HAL is not running (repeated endlessly)
[17:36] <delicowa> hopefully ther would be a fix soon
[17:37] <cant_login> yeah.. i saw that too
[17:37] <dave_> delicowa: a lot of people have had this problem with other distributions too
[17:37] <TweakingDay> ff3 works really well for surfing itself for me.
[17:37] <dave_> delicowa: try disabling ipv6 support
[17:37] <genii-around> cant_login: Try to issue:    sudo /etc/init.d/hal  start
[17:37] <cant_login> is it possible to restart hal
[17:37] <TweakingDay> and with tracemonkey coming in next ver it's gonna fly
[17:37] <cant_login> ok.. will try
[17:37] <delicowa> ok dave_ what then was the way out for then
[17:37] <delicowa> sorry(typo) I meant them not then
[17:38] <cant_login> says /usr/sbin/hald already running
[17:38] <cant_login> i'll try restart
[17:38] <genii-around> cant_login: Try to issue:    sudo /etc/init.d/hal  restart
[17:38] <TweakingDay> ok i'm gonna try something brb
[17:38] <genii-around> hehe
[17:38] <delicowa> on firefox?
[17:38] <cant_login> no luck.. same thing genii-around
[17:38] <cant_login> restarted without errors.. still can't login though
[17:39] <cant_login> afk
[17:40] <genii-around> cant_login: Does: ps ax | grep hald                   indicate that it is really running?
[17:41] <boubou> plop all
[17:44] <kkathman> Where are the power settings for kubuntu now??
[17:45] <cant_login> yes genii-around.. it brings up 7 4 digit numbers
[17:45]  * technikk `bro veche svima :)
[17:46] <TweakingDay> BWAHAHA
[17:46] <TweakingDay> it's ALIVE!!
[17:46] <genii-around> cant_login: OK, so it actually is running then.
[17:46] <dave_> TweakingDay: did u get it!?
[17:46] <TweakingDay> genii-around: thank you for the executable thing.
[17:47] <TweakingDay> dave_: yes. thank you for the moral support.
[17:47] <genii-around> TweakingDay: np
[17:47] <TweakingDay> jussi01: ty for all too
[17:47] <creative> any1 can help me pls ? http://pastebin.com/m76fc9cac
[17:47] <dave_> TweakingDay: np man
[17:47] <TweakingDay> now all of a sudden i see strange effects
[17:47] <TweakingDay> ha
[17:47] <jussi01> TweakingDay: :)
[17:48] <TweakingDay> ok i gotta tell you. their installer:
[17:48] <TweakingDay> it's hilarious
[17:48] <genii-around> cant_login: Does:   ls /var/run/xauth/                           show anything?
[17:48] <dave_> oh i know
[17:48] <TweakingDay> 1. "unable to find kernel interface on FTP, the installer will have to compile one"
[17:48] <TweakingDay> eeehh ok dude, whatever you say...
[17:49] <TweakingDay> 2. "unable to verify something-lib.go.something. assuming succesfull installation"
[17:49] <cant_login> ls /var/run/xauth/ = A:0-P1EZwa
[17:49] <dave_> TweakingDay: can't say that I've ever had that happen
[17:50] <cant_login> is that the lock?
[17:50] <genii-around> cant_login: OK.  So:     sudo rm /var/run/xauth/*
[17:50] <genii-around> cant_login: One of them, yes
[17:50] <cant_login> that never got unlocked.. because it cut off while in a tty session
[17:51] <genii-around> cant_login: Exactly, yes
[17:51] <genii-around> Work requires me. Returning shortly
[17:53] <cant_login> didn't work genii-around.. it was removed, but got recreated when i attempted to login
[17:55] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[17:55] <TweakingDay> umm a small q: how to disable the beeps in tty?
[17:56] <delicowa> presently iam arguing with a friend on windows and he says there is a way to spread vis=rus on Linux as wide as on windows...which I serious ly do not believ...Does this mean I am ignorant or that I actually know how strong the linux kernel and community is to the vulnerebility of a virus?
[17:56] <dave_> TweakingDay: unplug your speakers
[17:56] <Coggz> uum
[17:56] <dave_> lmao
[17:56] <TweakingDay> system speaker dave, system speaker
[17:56] <dave_> TweakingDay: open case and unplug man...simple as that
[17:57] <TweakingDay> delicowa: does your friend actually claim that linux is as vuln, as windows?
[17:57] <dave_> TweakingDay: mute the pcspeaker channel in kmix
[17:57] <delicowa> well I believe gates has bought him so much he doesn't wanna accept the fact
[17:57] <TweakingDay> delicowa: i'm afraid there's only one thing left to do. they can no longer be your friend.
[17:58] <delicowa> yup.. I think so
[17:58] <TweakingDay> this is coming from someone with 0.003 experience in linux and
[17:58] <TweakingDay> pretty damn good knowledge of win
[17:58] <dave_> delicowa: linux is not as vulnerable to viruses and spyware as windows is
[17:58] <Coggz> any ideas about xorg
[17:58] <TweakingDay> that much i know
[17:58] <dave_> delicowa:  there's only a few for linux out there and second of all you'd have to hand over your root password for them to even work
[17:59] <TweakingDay> i thin the root pass is empty by default now?
[17:59] <TweakingDay> how does this thing work
[17:59] <Pici> !sudo
[17:59] <dave_> TweakingDay:  lmao...i don't think so bro
[17:59] <jhutchins_wk> delicowa: It's theoretically possible to write a virus that works on Linux machines, but it's much more difficult for it to propagate because there are inherent defaults in favor of security.
[17:59] <Pici> TweakingDay: The root password is locked, not empty.
[17:59] <delicowa> we also argued on the fact that the ease of windows is better than that of linux ..but I tried to tell him that it was better to know what is going on under a button click (which is easier on linux because o fhte availability of the source).the on windows which is closed source
[17:59] <TweakingDay> ah. that's better.
[18:00] <dave_> TweakingDay: its your password you use to login the system just using su iinstead
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> delicowa: A windows virus can be propagated on a linux host by windows systems accessing it.  A linux mail server can pass infected mail without being affected itself.
[18:00] <TweakingDay> technically if win was produced by someone you trust you don't have to sucrifice ease for knowledge
[18:00] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[18:00] <delicowa>  jhutchins_wk:  yup I know that much which was once of the points I porved to him
[18:00] <TweakingDay> and not all people are technically inclided
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> The first documente worm was written (&run) on a unix system though.
[18:00] <TweakingDay> inclined
[18:01] <TweakingDay> windows IS however much easier.
[18:01] <dave_> TweakingDay: lol...i was about to say i've never been technically "inclided" before
[18:01] <delicowa> but I suppose the openness of sources makes it pretty diifficult to spread the a real virus
[18:01] <TweakingDay> kmix is not running. what is wrong with this thign!
[18:01] <TweakingDay> the open source is supposed to make it more secure
[18:01] <dave_> TweakingDay: Alt+F2 kmix and enter
[18:01] <luca_> hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????
[18:01] <TweakingDay> the design whether open or closed it what make the security
[18:01] <delicowa> cos I suppose a software is only legally accepted on linus if the source is readilly available from the programmer
[18:02] <TweakingDay> da
[18:02] <luca_> hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????
[18:02] <TweakingDay> dave_: no i know, it jus bounces and that's it
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> TweakingDay: Windows is somewhat easier, but it's also a big target, as there are a LOT of windows systems available both for development and targets.
[18:02] <luca_> hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????
[18:02] <TweakingDay> jhutchins_wk: no question about that
[18:02] <luca_> hi!!there is someone that speak italian?????????????????????????????????please????????????????
[18:02] <dave_> TweakingDay: that's what you get for loading that 8.10 crap
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> TweakingDay: There are a lot more unsophisticated users running Windows as well.
[18:02] <Coggz> !italian
[18:03] <delicowa> so in that case do you suppose if linux dominates the world we would have the same virus problems
[18:03] <dave_> !venezualan
[18:03] <TweakingDay> i'm new at this dave_ no idea crap or not
[18:03] <luca_> thanks!!!!
[18:03] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[18:03] <TweakingDay> jhutchins_wk: but you can't give linux to grandma
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> delicowa: It's easier to secure linux, but yes.
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> TweakingDay: I can't (both mine are dead anyway) but I know people who have done that and similar things.
[18:03] <dave_> TweakingDay: lmao....nope you sure as hell can't
[18:03] <delicowa> yeah I sgree given the fact that the ping of death hole was patched within 24hours of discovery but took ages on windows
[18:04] <TweakingDay> basically, the default is win, the default user is not sophisticated coupled with bad design means problems.
[18:04] <jhutchins_wk> TweakingDay: (I've got a 90+ year-old grandmother of a friend who is developing a hyperlinked family history.)
[18:04] <dave_> TweakingDay: i gave my grandma her first computer and laughed when she couldn't figure out how to turn it on
[18:04] <delicowa> next topic
[18:04] <TweakingDay> jhutchins_wk: that's cool
[18:04] <TweakingDay> dave
[18:04] <TweakingDay> you're just wrong
[18:04] <TweakingDay> but you know that
[18:04] <TweakingDay> :P
[18:04] <dave_> TweakingDay: oh i know dude...i know
[18:05] <delicowa> I kinda have problems connecting to a windows vista adhoc netwpork...It sees it but it doesn't connect
[18:05] <TweakingDay> how them pills working
[18:05] <TweakingDay> vista. *shudders*
[18:05] <dave_> TweakingDay: what pills?
[18:05] <TweakingDay> right.
[18:05] <cant_login> genii-around.. do you have any other ideas?
[18:05] <jhutchins_wk> delicowa: That would probably be a question for ##windows
[18:05] <dave_> TweakingDay: yeah i took vista off my laptop cause it was so terrible
[18:06] <dave_> TweakingDay: wrong
[18:06] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, back to topic.
[18:06] <TweakingDay> kmix :\
[18:06] <delicowa> ok really in my class our lecturers use windows (most of them vista) so I need to connect to get most of my work done...and I mus t admit it I really really hate windows
[18:06] <TweakingDay> your lecturers fall into the unsophisticated category.
[18:07] <TweakingDay> mine too though :\
[18:07] <TweakingDay> seriously, maybe this 8.10 wasn't a good idea
[18:07] <TweakingDay> i don't wannna d/l another distro...whaaa
[18:07] <dave_> delicowa: if your connecting via html you should be ok...you have java and flash
[18:07] <villoni> !fr
[18:07] <dave_> TweakingDay: download kubuntu 8.04 LTS dude
[18:08] <TweakingDay> i don't wannnaaaaaa
[18:08] <delicowa> yup I agree (I school in nigeria.)and University of ilorin.Because of some complex issues though I am looking for an online degree.
[18:08] <dave_> TweakingDay: well then quit b!tching about all your broke @$$ shizz lol
[18:08] <dave_> you went for the new release i told you bro
[18:08] <TweakingDay> dave_: i won't and you can't make me!
[18:08] <TweakingDay> i have no idea in this
[18:08] <delicowa> @dave how do I connect via html(internet you mean?)
[18:09] <TweakingDay> i thin dave
[18:09] <dave_> TweakingDay: it's ok i'll just steal your ram...we'll see how far you get with that
[18:09] <TweakingDay> it's soldered in
[18:09] <TweakingDay> good luck with that
[18:09] <dave_> delicowa: i'm talking about doing connecting to do school work online
[18:09] <delicowa> what I really need is info on how to connect to an ad-hoc network setup on windows
[18:09] <dave_> TweakingDay: ummmm RAM is not soldered into the motherboard bro
[18:09] <dave_> brb
[18:09] <TweakingDay> usually it's not
[18:10] <TweakingDay> delicowa: i don't know about linux, but in win there are verious protocols.
[18:10] <TweakingDay> find out which one is in use, and make sure you can use it too.
[18:10] <TweakingDay> various*
[18:10] <dave_> TweakingDay: so i take it you soldered them in huh?  riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight,....likely story
[18:11] <TweakingDay> it was an accident
[18:11] <delicowa> ok basic thing our lecturers are either too poor or too  iliterate to put tests online and there is no functional wireless network at school        (trust me it is really a crap school but I got no choice)
[18:11] <dave_> TweakingDay: i soldered my OS in too...Kubuntu's not coming off this sucker...yerp....no way
[18:11] <TweakingDay> lol
[18:12] <delicowa> but one thing I like though when I create new networks on linux windows os can't see then and they can't see my bluetooth netwoks
[18:12] <TweakingDay> stealthy
[18:12] <TweakingDay> you use that to chear?
[18:13] <TweakingDay> :P
[18:13] <dave_> TweakingDay: but on the online disclaimer for Kubuntu 8.10 it says: "This OS is not solderable" so good luck to you man...I think you need the LTS then you'd be as cool as me
[18:13] <TweakingDay> oh man i can never be as cool as YOU
[18:13] <delicowa> "solder an os?"I am lost
[18:13] <TweakingDay> lol. look what you've done.
[18:13] <dave_> TweakingDay: no...if i were only as cool as u...
[18:13] <delicowa> :-(how do you solder an os
[18:14] <dave_> delicowa: you can't i we were kidding
[18:14] <TweakingDay> ok another simple question. what are all the colors for the nicknames in konvers. i get it blue boy pink girl (how does it know) but i've seen other...
[18:14] <dave_> TweakingDay: what color is mine?
[18:15] <TweakingDay> you're green
[18:15] <dave_> TweakingDay: your pink lmao
[18:15] <dave_> no lie
[18:15] <TweakingDay> no, blue
[18:15] <TweakingDay> i'm not pink
[18:15] <dave_> TweakingDay: dude i swear your pink on my end
[18:15] <TweakingDay> i tel you i'm not pink and most certainly have nothing to do with your end
[18:16] <TweakingDay> is this an R channel?
[18:16] <Guest69250> whats an R channell
[18:16] <Guest69250> whats an R channel
[18:16] <dave_> TweakingDay: i'm sure it's supposed to be G rated lol
[18:16] <dave_> TweakingDay: man we need to quit we are confusing the hell out of folks
[18:16] <TweakingDay> Guest69250: there are ratings to movies for example. like G is family and R is adult.
[18:17] <TweakingDay> yeah..
[18:17] <Guest69250> ok i get it
[18:17] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[18:18] <Guest69250> is there any c programmer in here
[18:18] <TweakingDay> Coggz for example appears red or brown. i guess it's the people who are havn't set gender.
[18:18] <Guest69250> i have a question i would like to get answers to
[18:19] <TweakingDay> specific to kubuntu?
[18:19] <Coggz> ?
[18:19] <Guest69250> is there any c programmer in here.I have some questions i would like to get answers to
[18:19] <TweakingDay> dave_: you're all touting 8.04. here, help the dude.
[18:19] <Coggz> TweakingDay: What do you mean?
[18:20] <TweakingDay> Coggz: nvn, i was just using your nick as an example.
[18:20] <Coggz> ok
[18:20] <Coggz> TweakingDay: any chance of help?
[18:20] <TweakingDay> sure, but not from me. i'm very new to this.
[18:21] <dave_> i don't remember the command
[18:21] <Coggz> TweakingDay: ok,
[18:21] <Coggz> in that case, please can someone help me with xorg...\
[18:22] <TweakingDay> i suggest you wait for a bit. seems that the people come in waves.
[18:22] <dave_> brb
[18:22] <TweakingDay> in the mean time dave_ here has gone to bring you cookies
[18:24] <dave_> TweakingDay: who's bringing me cookies?
[18:24] <delicowa> DAVE_
[18:24] <cant_login> laptop lost battery power while logged into tty session.. since then system boots fine upto login window, accepts password then goes right back to the login window again. no problems logging into a tty session with user & password.  added new user via tty session.  new user has same results.  Please help
[18:25] <TweakingDay> dave_: you are, for Coggz
[18:25] <Coggz> hiya dave_
[18:25] <TweakingDay> lol
[18:25] <dave_> *dave_ throws cookies*
[18:26] <dave_> lol
[18:26] <delicowa> yeah one last thing?? when I installed kdm at first the login window was a bit glossy and nice but now it looks old and rageddy like a windows 98 login windows any help on hoe I can restore it?
[18:26] <delicowa> :'(
[18:26] <TweakingDay> ok. next on the to do list. how can i make sure the system is using frequency throttling on the CPU?
[18:26] <Coggz> *yay*
[18:26] <Coggz> dave_: anyhow...
[18:26] <dave_> delicowa: yes if you just reload kubuntu it will go back to how it was before
[18:26] <dave_> lol
[18:27] <delicowa> how do I reload it
[18:27] <delicowa> re install you mean?
[18:27] <dave_> delicowa: by reinstalling kubuntu
[18:27] <Coggz> TweakingDay:
[18:27] <dave_> delicowa: yes, it was supposed to be a joke
[18:27] <Coggz> oops
[18:27] <dave_> brb
[18:27] <delicowa> ok . so I should remove it then reinstall it.. huh?
[18:27] <Coggz> dave_ do you know anything about xorg
[18:29] <TweakingDay> delicowa: from what i've seen so far
[18:29] <TweakingDay> about everything can be resolved without that
[18:30] <TweakingDay> the caveat is that you have to dig and find out how to
[18:30] <dave_> Coggz: no don't reinstall
[18:30] <dave_> coggz: do you know what your native display rez is?
[18:31] <dave_> TweakingDay: are you using your Thesaurus program over there to dig up these "fancy" words?
[18:31] <Coggz> dave_: Yes, it is either 1280x800 or 1024x768, lol i wouldn't reinstall to fix...
[18:32] <legodude_> which bittorrent client?
[18:32] <dave_> coggz: go into the Dolphin file manager
[18:33] <dave_> coggz: in the address bar type /etc/X11
[18:33] <TweakingDay> this dolphin is ugly
[18:33] <TweakingDay> somewhere down the todo is to replace it
[18:33] <Coggz> ya
[18:33] <Coggz> i know about xorg.conf
[18:33] <dave_> coggz: it won't let you change the display rez in there either?
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> xorg.conf mostly just makes resolutions available to the dm.
[18:34] <delicowa> im out SEE ya later
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> Coggz: There's a utility called krandrtray that will let you pick resolutions.
[18:36] <Coggz> yes
[18:36] <Coggz> i use grandr dave_
[18:36] <Coggz> for multiple monitors
[18:37] <dave_> you are using the same display rez for all monitors right?
[18:37] <Coggz> i must tell you, im on ubuntu, but i have been using both for a few years so i can cross over
[18:37] <Coggz> yes
[18:39] <Coggz> hmm, there is a xorg update, maybe i can try that
[18:39] <TweakingDay> how can i tell what's the current cpu freqency?
[18:42] <Coggz> not sure
[18:42] <stdin> TweakingDay: several ways, use the Guidance Power Manager applet. "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'cpu MHz'" or "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"
[18:43] <thomas__> hallo
[18:44] <thomas__> was ist
[18:44] <Coggz> !de
[18:44] <zir-rt> hi
[18:44] <Coggz> hi
[18:45] <Coggz> dave_? you still about
[18:45] <thomas__> cheten macht spass
[18:45] <TweakingDay> stdin: thanks
[18:45] <thomas__> ich arbeite mein pc
[18:45] <profoX`> first of all: whyyy did is kde 3 gone in 8.10 :( and.. umm.. can someone tell me how i should get kopete to connect to the msn protocol in kubuntu 8.10 ?
[18:46] <profoX`> -did *
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> hey! I already have a package installed via apt and want to test a newer version of it without affecting the existing installation. If I download the source code and compile it in my home directory, will it affect my existing installation of the said package?
[18:46] <zir-rt> I have a problem with my audio, I was playing a flash video in firefox and then after the video the next video had no audio, and now I can't reproduce sound from my pc, nor mplayer, amarok, amplayer says /dev/dsp busy.
[18:46] <zir-rt> How can I know which program is using the /dev/dsp?
[18:46] <profoX`> Captain_Haddock: it won't, it will only conflict if you install it (to the same location)
[18:46] <thomas__> mein hund geht gut
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> ok, thanks
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> !de thomas__
[18:47] <profoX`> Captain_Haddock: but with most makefiles you can use ./configure --prefix=/home/$USER/blaat
[18:47] <profoX`> to install there
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> !de
[18:47] <profoX`> zir-rt: try lsof|grep /dev/dsp
[18:47] <profoX`> but please, can someone help me with all my kde 4 issues
[18:47] <stdin> "fuser /dev/dsp"
[18:47] <profoX`> which are a lot of them!
[18:47] <Coggz> Captain_Haddock - you woulnd't be Johnathan Haddock?
[18:48] <thomas__> nur was
[18:48] <Captain_Haddock> Coggz: No, I'm Captain "Billions of Blue Blistering Barnacles" Haddock.
[18:48] <Captain_Haddock> Sorry to disappoint :)
[18:48] <Captain_Haddock> profoX`: I see - cheers
[18:48]  * Captain_Haddock tries it out
[18:49] <Coggz> Captain_Haddock: aah, i see
[18:49] <Captain_Haddock> Archibald is my first name
[18:49] <zir-rt> thanks profoX`and stdin, I have performed bith lsof|grep /dev/dsp and fuser /dev/dsp but mplayer can't still reproduce sound. It says [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1321:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy
[18:49]  * Captain_Haddock had to search for that :(
[18:49] <Captain_Haddock> I'm growing old
[18:50] <stdin> zir-rt: that's /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p not /dev/dsp
[18:50] <profoX`> so, why is KDE 3 gone/unsupported in 8.10? can't find the answer on the FAQ
[18:50] <zir-rt> stdin: before was the /dev/dsp :)
[18:50] <stdin> usually though, /dev/snd/pcm* can be opened by more than one app at a time
[18:50] <TweakingDay> another quick q: where can i see the temp of the cpu and other components like MB?
[18:50] <stdin> that's the whole point of ALSA
[18:50] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[18:51] <Captain_Haddock> TweakingDay: system monitor
[18:51] <profoX`> stdin: nyea, but sometimes there's some awkward stuff going on
[18:51] <stdin> TweakingDay: search in adept for "sensors"
[18:51] <Coggz> TweakingDay: gkrellm
[18:51] <zir-rt> this ws the message AL lib: oss.c:179: Could not open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[18:52] <TweakingDay> stdin, i did but the app shows blank window :\
[18:52] <TweakingDay> Coggz, will try ty
[18:52] <stdin> "apt-cache search sensors" is another way
[18:53] <zir-rt> That is odd, lsof says it is okular: okular    7125     christ   77u      CHR      116,8               13241 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[18:53] <TweakingDay> i mean the xsensors program i was able to find and install shows nothing....
[18:54] <Coggz> Captain_Haddock: any ideas about xorg
[18:55] <Captain_Haddock> Coggz: does xvidtune help?
[18:55] <zir-rt> hmm, now I have closed okular and the sound work again! thanks stdin and profoX`!
[18:56] <profoX`> ye.. i have experienced the same weird issues
[18:56] <profoX`> with sound
[18:56] <stdin> odd that okualr would open the sound device...
[18:56] <profoX`> actually, i have experienced lots of issues with kubuntu 8.10 :(
[18:56] <profoX`> wish i didn't decide to finally upgrade
[18:56] <profoX`> stdin: maybe knotify or something like that
[18:56] <Coggz> Captain_Haddock: i will try, but i cant atm, as it is updating with apt
[18:56] <zir-rt> It was only a pdf..
[18:57] <Captain_Haddock> at least you didn't upgrade 3 machines the day of release and regret it :)
[18:57] <stdin> profoX`: but ps would show knotify4 as the process
[18:57] <Coggz> ?
[18:57] <Coggz> why regret?
[18:57] <Captain_Haddock> Coggz: ok... your gfx card detected ok?
[18:58] <Captain_Haddock> Coggz: I'm not too happy with KDE 4.1.. I like it fine.. but it's got too many niggles
[18:58] <Coggz> it was all fine. then i tried to change my virtual screen size in xorg.conf... it now recognises nothing and locks me to either 640x480 or 800x600
[18:59] <Captain_Haddock> I see... didn't back up xorg.conf eh?
[18:59] <Coggz> intel 915GM, with dell 15" LVDS
[18:59] <Coggz> hmm, it did create a backup.
[19:00] <profoX`> stdin: well, i dont know.. i only know that i experienced the same problem also back on kde3 with a few apps sometimes.. ktorrent and kmix most of the time..
[19:00] <profoX`> never researched it
[19:01] <TweakingDay> Coggz, gkrellm worked like a charm. thanks.
[19:01] <Captain_Haddock> profoX`: "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`.." <-- would this screw things up?
[19:02] <Captain_Haddock> ^ is in my home directory
[19:02] <Coggz> TweakingDay: i know, its definately my favorite applet
[19:02] <profoX`> Captain_Haddock: i don't know :)
[19:02] <Captain_Haddock> profoX`: aww :( heh
[19:02] <profoX`> i would GUESS not, but.. you never know
[19:03] <Captain_Haddock> the kde4-config looks very suspicious
[19:03] <profoX`> i also haven't worked with cmake and kde4-config yet
[19:03] <Coggz> i use it to monitor my tablet pc which has no fans :) (60 oC+)
[19:03]  * Captain_Haddock uses System monitor.. with pretty graphs and stuff
[19:03] <Captain_Haddock> aka ksysguard IIRC
[19:03] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: kde4-config comes in kdelibs-bin
[19:04] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: yep, I don't want the app to overwrite my existing installation.. want it to be contained in my home directory
[19:04] <Captain_Haddock> so the kde4-config looks a little scary :]
[19:05] <stdin> then you want to use "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/me/<somedir> ../"
[19:05] <stdin> using "kde4-config --prefix" will overwrite the packages
[19:05] <Captain_Haddock> aha!
[19:05] <Captain_Haddock> thanks dude
[19:06] <Captain_Haddock> maybe I should set up a virtual machine and try all this stuff out
[19:07] <Captain_Haddock> is Xen stable and user friendly?
[19:08] <stdin> I'd guess it's stable, but probably not user friendly
[19:08] <stdin> !xen
[19:08] <stdin> it's more for professionals with big servers
[19:10] <May> hello
[19:11] <May> someone there
[19:11] <TweakingDay> hey may
[19:11] <anubis> Hello
[19:12] <anubis> Any Linux DJs in the house?
[19:12] <Coggz> anubis: not really, but done some shoutcasting...
[19:12] <anubis> Was wondering what Karaoke or decent DJ software is out there.
[19:13] <anubis> Getting sick of Windoze
[19:13] <anubis> If I could find DJ/Karaoke software then I could completely get rid of windoze
[19:14] <kkathman> Has anyone checked into why Konqueror seems to be so slow in loading/displaying pages compared to say, Firefox/Opera ?
[19:14] <cant_login> genii-around are you still here?
[19:14] <kkathman> Also, Konqueror doesnt seem to work with Flash at all?
[19:15] <anubis> I would like to run a program called SamParty DJ under linux.  (with wine I suppose) but that was a disaster
[19:16] <anubis> This PC is running 100% linux (Kubuntu 8.10)
[19:16] <sd32> !restricted drivers
[19:16] <kkathman> anubis:  if its not running under wine, guess you'd need to find a Linux alternative?
[19:16] <anubis> Unfortunately
[19:16] <cant_login> anubis.. install a virtual machine
[19:16] <anubis> VM ware?
[19:16] <cant_login> say.. virtualbox
[19:17] <anubis> Oh, ok.
[19:17] <sd32> how do i run restricted drivers?
[19:17] <quark_> bye bye
[19:17] <kkathman> anubis:  yes was going to suggest VM or...check sourceforge.net
[19:17] <cant_login> you still need a windows cd & need to go thru the windows installation, but it will run
[19:17] <anubis> VM is $189 bucks
[19:17] <sd32> !video
[19:17] <sd32> !drivers
[19:17] <kkathman> sd32:  which driver are you looking for
[19:18] <sd32> kkathman:nvidia
[19:18] <kkathman> !nvidia
[19:18] <fridy> hi all
[19:18] <ghostcube__> hi folks got a problem i followed the update howo and the adept updater tool killed itself and now i cant bring it up again
[19:19] <ghostcube__> any needful ideas for me
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone know how to speed up networking in lin? In win I get 40+kbps average on all bt transfers, in linux I'm lucky if I break 10kbps, doesn't matter time of day or what torrent. I disabled ipv6, port forward is all good, using the same client as in windows (uTorrent) with the same settings and torrents (soft link to settings folder)
[19:19] <fridy> does anybody know what happened to the great tool kio-fish in kubuntu intrepid?
[19:19] <Captain_Haddock> sd32: on 8.10 look for "Hardware drivers" in KMenu
[19:19] <Captain_Haddock> that should load "jockey"
[19:19] <Captain_Haddock> !jockey
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> jockey-kde for kde, jockey-gtk for gnome
[19:20] <sd32> Captain_Haddock: thanks that what i was looknig for
[19:20] <Captain_Haddock> OxDeadC0de: on only bt transfers?
[19:20] <OxDeadC0de> captain_haddock regular transfers are also slow, winxp gets around 750kbps, lin ~400
[19:20] <TweakingDay> ghostcube__, in what environment are you now?
[19:20] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: thanks - any ideas about virtualbox?
[19:21] <OxDeadC0de> also I'm using ndiswrapper + windows version of b43 drivers to connect to my network
[19:21] <Coggz> b43!!
[19:21] <OxDeadC0de> i get even worse performance with the native b43 drivers, which is why I use ndis
[19:21] <Coggz> hmm
[19:21] <ghostcube__> TweakingDay: ok iam in kde3 and tried to upgrade iam now to do dpkg --configure -a'
[19:21] <Coggz> on 8.04 OxDeadC0de
[19:22] <OxDeadC0de> 8.10
[19:22] <ghostcube__> cause thats all that i can start and it seems to finish it i hope it will do the trick any other ideas if this fails
[19:22] <Coggz> hmm, im on 8.04 and it is good
[19:22] <OxDeadC0de> i used 8.04, had this "problem" there too, maybe it's ndis
[19:22] <TweakingDay> oh. sorry don't know then. i guess it's kinda early for me.
[19:22] <sd32> great..The application KMix (kmix) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
[19:23] <OxDeadC0de> but b43 for me would actually seem faster - but in practice it would scale the connection speed a little to often creating a lot of "hickups" as it scaled the speed
[19:23] <fridy> does anybody know, if there's a replacement of fish:// in kubuntu intrepid? - I really miss this great tool!
[19:24] <Captain_Haddock> OxDeadC0de: when I had a similar problem I had to tweak my ktorrent settings... but it's probably not related to your issue as my http downloads were quite fine.
[19:24] <Captain_Haddock> fridy: what did it do in 8.04?
[19:24] <OxDeadC0de> captain_haddock probably not since I'm using uTorrent via wine anyway - to share downloads with windows so I can keep them going when I switch between os's
[19:24] <onio> vous etes tous des daubes
[19:25] <Captain_Haddock> I see
[19:25] <Captain_Haddock> !fr
[19:25] <kabotage> hi, how do i fix this, theres a white line in every window i open. and it actually gives me a blank screen and then its stucks up. im using intrepid
[19:25] <sd32> Captain_Haddock: any fix for a kmix crash?
[19:25] <OxDeadC0de> ok well, I'll try b43 again, maybe they've improved the driver since I last tried... :/
[19:26] <Captain_Haddock> sd32: report bug and restart kmix? :)
[19:26] <sd32> sd32: how do i restart it?
[19:26] <fridy> Captain_Harddock: it was a graphical frontend for scp. For example you could open/save/edit your files on a remote ssh server
[19:26] <profoX`> soooo..
[19:26] <profoX`> knode doesnt work
[19:26] <profoX`> :p
[19:26] <fridy> for example with quanta plus
[19:26] <Captain_Haddock> ah, sounds nifty
[19:26] <profoX`> why.
[19:26] <profoX`> how to fix :p
[19:27] <profoX`> it doesn't want to connect to my newsgroup
[19:27] <sd32> it used to work now it s broke..lol
[19:27] <Captain_Haddock> sd32: click on kmenu and type what you're searching for in the "search" box :)
[19:27] <sd32> Captain_Haddock: ok thanks
[19:28] <sd32> !guess i might have to use envyng
[19:28] <fridy> it was really nifty. much more comfortable like vim, especially if you'd like to open more than one file the same time
[19:29] <anubis> Does Amarok play WMA files?
[19:29] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: virtual box is quite good, probably the easiest to setup
[19:29] <sd32> how does a  sound driver crash a video driver program..?????
[19:29] <Captain_Haddock> fridy: perhaps it was some other app adding the plugin?
[19:30] <anubis> Do you still need to install Windows under virtualbox?
[19:30] <anubis> Maybe I could use OSX
[19:30] <Captain_Haddock> anubis: djplay - A DJ application for Linux
[19:30] <anubis> Thanks Captain
[19:30] <anubis> I also need to play karaoke files ie. mp3+g zips
[19:30] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: cheers, I'll give it a shot then
[19:31] <anubis> Otherwise this is kinda useless to me unfortunately.
[19:31] <anubis> And I would like to completely get rid of windows
[19:31] <stdin> you can't install OSX in VitrualBox. it's an x86 emulator, and installing OSX on anything but a Mac is illegal according to Apple
[19:31] <Captain_Haddock> "pykaraoke - free CDG/MIDI/MPEG karaoke player"
[19:31] <anubis> There is a mac clone company out there.
[19:31] <anubis> pykaraoke sucks
[19:31] <Captain_Haddock> heh
[19:31] <anubis> It's a pain in the arse to setup
[19:32] <fridy> Captain_Haddock: I think there was a packet called kio-fish, but it isn't there anymore
[19:32] <sd32> ahhh... I have to restart to enable the drivers
[19:32] <stdin> there are Mac emulator out there, but actually using the to run Mac OSX is probably illegal ;)
[19:32] <anubis> It's not.  I checked
[19:33] <anubis> I guess there aren't a lot of Linux DJ's out there yet.
[19:34] <choppy> anubis: i knew one.
[19:34] <choppy> He was a pretty bastard.
[19:34] <anubis> Pretty?   LOL
[19:34] <Captain_Haddock> fridy: actually dude, I just tried it and it worked fine here - 8.10
[19:35] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[19:35] <Captain_Haddock> fridy: search for konqueror in adept and install all the plugin packages maybe
[19:36] <Captain_Haddock> that's a nifty tool, as you say
[19:36] <fridy> yes it is ;)
[19:37] <kabotage> how do you get  cpu info on konsole??
[19:37] <genii-around> /back
[19:37] <genii-around> bah
[19:37] <Captain_Haddock> kabotage: sudo lshw
[19:38] <choppy> koobage> in /proc ?
[19:38] <fridy> just recognized that it works with dolphin and konqueror, but unfortunatelly not with quanta plus
[19:38] <genii-around> anubis: There is Basilisk II  but it emulates only the Motorola 68K series (you can run up to MacOS 8.6)
[19:38] <choppy> cat the file
[19:39] <kabotage> Captain_Haddock: thanks
[19:40] <reed> hello
[19:41] <choppy> hello reed
[19:41] <fridy> hi reed
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> fridy: too bad.. I hear that there's a new dev IDE coming in 4.2
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> kdevelop IIRC
[19:41] <reed> did anybody notice that on 8.10 network starts after user has logged in?
[19:41] <reed> I can't find a way to force that network starts during boot
[19:42] <cant_login> reed.. install sysv.rc.conf & make sure that networking is enabled during boot
[19:42] <anubis> Thaks genii-around
[19:42] <anubis> Thanks, even
[19:42] <fridy> Captain_Haddock: a new IDE? do you have some more information? quanta isn't ported to kde 4.~yet
[19:43] <genii-around> anubis: np
[19:43] <reed> cant_login: I'm not sure I can parse your suggestion... networkmanager is started at boot
[19:43] <Captain_Haddock> fridy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDevelop (not new apparently .. rewritten from scratch for 4.2 though)
[19:45] <reed> cant_login: in /etc/rc2.d/ there is S28NetworkManager
[19:45]  * Captain_Haddock has got to go; my thanks to all helping hands :)
[19:46] <reed> maybe I should add that I'm using a wifi network :)
[19:46] <fridy> Captain_Haddock: thanks! just reading
[19:47] <cant_login> not network manager.. networking
[19:47] <user__> hey i download the kubuntu vmare how do i access the root dictionary
[19:47] <reed> cant_login: I see your point
[19:48] <cant_login> i'm not sure if it will do what you want.. it's just an idea
[19:48] <cant_login> it's a nice little program anyway
[19:48] <cant_login> sysv.rc.conf.. system service config
[19:48] <reed> cant_login: ok, I know how to manage init, I'm an old *nix user..
[19:49] <reed> these new kthings are too modern :)
[19:49] <reed> too difficult to understand :)
[19:49] <cant_login> it's actually a console program
[19:49] <smartass> Йоханга!
[19:49] <genii-around> cant_login: I'm back and forth to the computer right now. Manage yet to start X ?
[19:49] <cant_login> nope genii-around.. still no luck.. i've posted a bug on launchpad
[19:49] <reed> cant_login: I know, will revert configuring the network by hand the
[19:49] <reed> then
[19:50] <user__> i just download the kubuntu  for vmare ware   how do i login has root not just a user
[19:50] <reed> where can I file a bug report for kubuntu? I think this is a bug
[19:50] <cant_login> actually let me rephrase that.. if i boot into recovery mode.. drop to root shell.. and startx.. then i can login
[19:50] <cant_login> if i drop to root shell and kdm.. i get the same loop
[19:50] <genii-around> cant_login: OK. Unfortunately I won't be able to devote much time for it today, work needs me often this afternoon
[19:50] <cant_login> no problem.. thanks for all the help anyway
[19:50] <sd32> how do I adjust my refresh rates in my monitor using the restricted drivers if  the refresh rates are wrong?
[19:51] <genii-around> cant_login: You might want to look in /var/run     for kdm stuff, I think it has there something as well
[19:51] <cant_login> alright
[19:52] <sd32> !compiz
[19:55] <genii-around> cant_login: Possibly to: sudo rm /var/run/kdm.pid
[19:56] <anubis> If anyone has any ideas for running Karaoke (mp3+g) under linux, please let me know.
[19:56] <anubis> I would be most grateful.
[19:56] <anubis> Cuz PYkaraoke blowz
[19:58] <genii-around> anubis: I think kmid has karaoke support
[19:58] <genii-around> !info kmid
[19:58] <genii-around> Hm
[19:59] <genii-around> No kooka, no kmid ... :)
[20:00] <helge_> I have Kubuntu Intrepid 64 bit and when I start Kdenlive it just cloese immediately. No error messages... What to do?
[20:01] <helge_> closes
[20:02] <trappist> helge_: I'm not at my intrepid box right now, but I had that too, and I think I fixed it but I don't remember how - I think I was missing a package
[20:02] <helge_> Ok, I can look around
[20:02] <helge_> thanks
[20:02] <cant_login> genii-around, removed kdm.pid with no luck
[20:02] <trappist> helge_: try running it from the command line and see if you get an error there
[20:02] <genii-around> anubis: Perhaps xmms2-plugin-karaoke
[20:02] <helge_> good idea
[20:02] <genii-around> cant_login: OK
[20:02] <cant_login> does the fact that i can startx froma root shell prompt from the recovery menu help at all
[20:03] <sd32> wow the window expolison in desktop effects is cool
[20:03] <helge_> strange, Kdenlive started from Alt+F2, looks ok so far (20 sec)
[20:03] <cant_login> is there a way to force a reinstall of kdm somehow
[20:04] <cant_login> i did try "apt-get install --reinstall kdm" but it told me it could not be downloaded
[20:05] <OxDeadC0de> ok new question, anyone know why amarok4 won't show ogg vorbis files anymore?
[20:06] <OxDeadC0de> er, it plays them, but they don't show up in the collection list
[20:06] <cant_login> is there a setting somewhere OxDeadC0de to exclude certain file types?
[20:06] <genii-around> cant_login: Does: ps ax | grep dbus-daemon                                   show that running?
[20:07] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login nope
[20:07] <cant_login> shows two different numbers genii-around
[20:08] <cant_login> "4521 ? Ss 0:00 //bin/dbus-daemon -fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
[20:08] <OxDeadC0de> LOL I imported my old amarok collection into amarok4 and it crashed, and won't start anymore. whoopy! it also seems to be compiled with profiling support ><
[20:09] <cengo> merhabalar millet
[20:09] <cengo> linux bilen varmı aramızda
[20:09] <genii-around> cant_login: OK, thats fine then
[20:10] <genii-around> !tr | cengo
[20:11] <cant_login> genii-around, did you notice i said that i can login using the startx command if i drop to a root shell from the recovery mode?
[20:11] <vicente> hi
[20:11] <genii-around> cant_login: Yes, I caught that already :)
[20:11] <cant_login> alright
[20:11] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login what errors does xorg give off?
[20:12] <genii-around> cant_login: You might want to:   mv ~/.kde  ~/.oldkde
[20:12] <vicente> alguien abla español?
[20:12] <cant_login> alright
[20:12] <vicente> h
[20:12] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login that will only help if you can get xorg to start far enough to launch kde even, if it's xorg itself failing you got bigger problems
[20:12] <genii-around> cant_login: This will mean losing the individual prog settings, etc but hopefully X would start
[20:12] <OxDeadC0de> sorry I jumped in in the middle
[20:13] <genii-around> !es | vicente
[20:13] <vicente> a gracias
[20:13] <cant_login> no luck genii-around
[20:13] <shadowhywind> hay all I am trying to remove a package from the console, and I keep getting a [: 64: Illegal number: remove    shift: 64: can't shift that many   error any ideas?
[20:14] <smartass> #quit
[20:14] <smartass> или как там?
[20:14] <genii-around> !ru | smartass
[20:14] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login try sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.back - then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[20:14] <cant_login> OxDeadC0de.. the nvidia splash screen shows before the login window appears.. and if i switch my xorg.conf file back to vesa driver i still have the same issues
[20:15] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login how far does xorg get? Do you get all the way to kdm or gdm? (the login screen)?
[20:15] <cant_login> yup.. already tried that, same issue only in lower resolution
[20:15] <cant_login> i get to the login screen.. enter password.. the screen switches like its about to show the kde loading window.. then drops back to login
[20:15] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login try sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[20:15] <genii-around> OxDeadC0de: His laptop battery died while on. My major suspect is pid or lockfiles of some sort. His x log shows hal not running, etc
[20:16] <cant_login> i might have tried that.. let me try again
[20:17] <OxDeadC0de> genii-around my laptop dies quite often while on and I don't get any major issues :| Maybe I'm just lucky
[20:17] <cant_login> removed .Xauthority OxDeadC0de.. nada
[20:18] <genii-around> cant_login: You have any files in /var/lock     directory?
[20:18] <cant_login> .ramfs
[20:19] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login: so you can't sudo startx from a terminal either?
[20:20] <cant_login> well if i try that it gives me an error about an xserver already active.. someone said something about switching screens.. but i'm not sure how to do that
[20:21] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login press control+alt+f1, login, type "sudo killall kdm", then try sudo startx
[20:21] <muzzio> cant_login: do you want to run on more X?
[20:22] <muzzio> cant_login: try X :1
[20:22] <cant_login> that does start a gnome session
[20:22] <OxDeadC0de> muzzio he's having permissions issues, can't get past kdm
[20:22] <muzzio> hum.
[20:22] <genii-around> muzzio: No, he is trying to regain main X, not start new ones (yet)
[20:22] <OxDeadC0de> ok cant_login closes out xorg (control+alt+backspace), remove ~/.Xauthority
[20:23] <muzzio> genii-around: yet, rsrsrsrs
[20:23] <muzzio> :P
[20:23] <cant_login> .Xauthority is already gone
[20:24] <cant_login> when i tried to startx without sudo it gave me an error about not being able to create .Xauthority or something like that
[20:24] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login and.. reboot, :/, also, check ls -lh /dev/nv* (You're using nvidia right?), make sure you have permissions to read/write to it (dunno how ubuntu controls that, video group or what, i personally did chmod a+rw /dev/nv* - which is insecure I hear)
[20:25] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login great, we found the issue then, type "rm ~/.Xauthority" (if it fails that's okay), chown youruser:yourgroup ~/
[20:25] <genii-around> cant_login: Are you booted into Recovery or something? (like logged on as root or similar)
[20:25] <cant_login> both entries show crw-rw-rw
[20:25] <cant_login> no.. not booted into recovery anymore
[20:25] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login the issue is with .Xauthority, not nvidia like I thought there for a second
[20:25] <cant_login> OxDeadC0de.. i did have a .Xauthority.. but i removed it the first time you suggested
[20:25] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login the way we solved it before was resetting the permissions on your  home folder, make sure you have r/w permissions to it, and reboot
[20:26] <genii-around> cant_login: You may also want to: sudo rm -rf /tmp/*
[20:26] <cant_login> already removed /tmp/*.. will change permissions on the home folder & reboot.. will try
[20:27] <OxDeadC0de> I bet as soon as he reboots it will work ;)
[20:27] <cant_login> sudo chmod -R 777 /home is the only permission command i know
[20:27] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login sudo chmod u+rw /home/username
[20:27] <cant_login> chown?? not sure about that one
[20:27] <OxDeadC0de> chown is change owner, synatax: chown user:group folder
[20:27] <OxDeadC0de> syntax*
[20:27] <jonasbet> hi everyone
[20:27] <jonasbet> what are you doing?
[20:28] <cant_login> rebooting...
[20:28] <OxDeadC0de> gl!
[20:28] <jonasbet> are you having problems?
[20:28] <jonasbet> does anyone know how can i get new channel?
[20:29] <jonasbet> does ubuntu irc server conect to all irc channels?
[20:30] <genii-around> cant_login: Please, do NOT chmod 777 Anything!!!
[20:30] <OxDeadC0de> jonasbet: Ubuntu irc server is part of freenode, /list for a list of rooms, /join room-name to join a room
[20:30] <jonasbet> ohh thanks
[20:30] <Pici> OxDeadC0de, jonasbet: /msg alis list *something*   would be a better way to look for a specific channel for 'something'
[20:30] <jonasbet> that help me a lot
[20:31] <cant_login> alright.. "sudo chmod u+rw /home/user" still didn't work after reboot.. was i supposed to chowner something?
[20:31] <OxDeadC0de> ya and cant_login you with chmod it's easier to remember u, g, a (user, group, all) +- r/w/x (read, write, execute) (so u+rw is user+read write)
[20:32] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login chown yourusername:yourgroup ~/* -R && chown yourusername:yourusergroup /home/yourusername (replace yourusername and yourusergroup with you username and group, group is probably the same as username)
[20:32] <cant_login> will try
[20:32] <genii-around> cant_login: If your username for instance is "george" then:    sudo chown -rh george:george /home/george
[20:35] <cant_login> ok.. OxDeadC0de "changing owndership of 'home/user' : Operation not permitted
[20:35] <cant_login> genii-around "chown: invalid option -- 'r'"
[20:35] <cant_login> that's a r
[20:35] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login sudo chown username:username /home/username -R
[20:36] <OxDeadC0de> -R for recursive (must be caps)
[20:36] <cant_login> ok.. rebooting...
[20:36] <cant_login> do i need to reboot.. or can i just try to login?
[20:36] <OxDeadC0de> last time I debugged this exact issue the guy rebooted before it worked
[20:36] <cant_login> ok
[20:36] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login but it won't hurt to try without rebooting
[20:37] <cant_login> noted.. already rebooting...
[20:38] <cant_login> no dice.. still loops back to login window
[20:39] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login ls -la ~/ , do you see any files belonging to root?
[20:39] <OxDeadC0de> or not your user?
[20:39] <benbloom_> is there an easy way to select attatched sound devices in KDE3 or list devices locations?
[20:42] <cant_login> not that i can see on one screen.. how do i page?
[20:42] <OxDeadC0de> shift+page up
[20:43] <cant_login> easy enough... one thing "drwxrwxrwx 58 root root 4096 2008-11-11 15:17 .."
[20:43] <OxDeadC0de> that's normal :|
[20:43] <cant_login> figured such
[20:43] <cant_login> i see .. in every directory
[20:43] <OxDeadC0de> hmm, do sudo startx with root again (after sudo killall kdm), add a new user, see if you can login with the new user
[20:44] <cant_login> alright.. i have added a new user already via tty and that didn't work
[20:44] <cant_login> want me to try via gnome?
[20:45] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login please - and make sure it has all the permissions it needs (video and such)
[20:45] <cant_login> alright
[20:45] <cant_login> ok.. i tried startx without sudo and it gave me a different error this time.. i should
[20:46] <cant_login> "sudo startx"
[20:46] <OxDeadC0de> without sudo what error did it give you?
[20:46] <cant_login> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
[20:47] <cant_login> last time it said something about creating .Xauthority
[20:47] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf , in the Module section is there anything like "Load "type1"" ?
[20:48] <cant_login> yes
[20:48] <OxDeadC0de> if so, try commenting it (put # before it), and try again
[20:48] <cant_login> Load "type1"
[20:50] <cant_login> nvidia splash flashed, got the X cursor, then dropped back to prompt
[20:50] <cant_login> no errors though
[20:51] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know if it will hurt if i tell him to rm /var/tmp/kdecache-username ?
[20:51] <cant_login> it's in a tmp folder.. i've probably already removed it
[20:51] <cant_login> woops..
[20:52] <OxDeadC0de> no answer.. i guess try mv /var/tmp/kdecache-usersname ~/kdecache-username
[20:53] <OxDeadC0de> with sudo
[20:53] <cant_login> yup.. i remember that, already removed it.. looks like it recreaded kdecache-root
[20:53] <OxDeadC0de> ls -lh /var , is the tmp folder set to drwxrwxrwt ?
[20:54] <cant_login> yes it is OxDeadC0de
[20:54] <OxDeadC0de> oh, and from the kdm login menu (if it's not running because of killall kdm, switch to a console and run sudo kdm), can you change the session to gnome and login?
[20:54] <sd32> do i have to login as root to be able to save a display configuration?(saving as user fails to save configuration)
[20:54] <OxDeadC0de> or same thing
[20:55] <cant_login> var/lock also has those permissions
[20:55] <benbloom_> hate to interrupt but it sounds like this may be a while and my question is brief, Is there an easy way to select attatched sound devices in KDE3 or list devices locations?
[20:55] <trappist> sd32: yeah that's a system-wide config file, so mortal users can't muck with it
[20:55] <ecento> #ubuntu-ru.
[20:55] <sd32> trappist:  so i cant save a config?
[20:55] <trappist> benbloom_: this is irc, always feel free to interrupt - if I understand your question right, try "asoundconf list"
[20:56] <trappist> sd32: not without root/sudo privileges
[20:56] <sd32> trappist: or i need to be root
[20:56] <OxDeadC0de> sd32 you can, run the configuration program under sudo (example: sudo nvidia-settings)
[20:56] <sd32> trappist: ok thanks
[20:56] <sd32> OxDeadC0de:  ok thanks
[20:56] <benbloom_> trappist: I had interjected earlier to no avail. looked like cant_login is having a serious problem
[20:57]  * cant_login does agree
[20:57] <cant_login> at least this time everything is still there.. usually i can get in far enough to do ANYTHING
[20:57] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login any luck with gnome?
[20:57] <trappist> benbloom_: sometimes there's nobody looking who knows the answer to your question.  just try again in a few minutes :)
[20:57] <cant_login> ohh yeah.. should i try sudo startx?
[20:58] <cant_login> i think that will work
[20:58] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login no, make sure kdm is running (sudo kdm), switch to kdm if it's already running (alt+left or right arrow key until you get to the right tty), hit the menu button, change the session to gnome
[20:58] <OxDeadC0de> see if you can login to gnome with your regular user
[20:59] <cant_login> ohhh.. no, that doesn't work
[20:59] <cant_login> tried that first
[20:59] <OxDeadC0de> try again, the .Xauthority problem before could have been mucking that up
[21:00] <cant_login> nope.. default, kdm, gdm & failsafe all drop right back to the login window
[21:01] <cant_login> i notice console login is no longer there.. is that because i started kdm thru a prompt?
[21:02] <OxDeadC0de> could be, can you !paste ls -al /tmp please?
[21:02] <OxDeadC0de> !paste
[21:02] <cant_login> typo, default, GNOME, KDE & failsafe
[21:03] <benbloom_> so that helps a little trappist, but I need to actually tell kubuntu to use the soundcard I prefer. I have SB and HDMI the SB is the one I need
[21:04] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login or if you can't pastebin it, make sure .X11-unix and the file inside it both have permissions? (.X11-unix should be drwxrwxrwt and X0 sould be: srwxrwxrwx) Also check that /tmp/.ICE-unix  has drwxrwxrwt and the files inside that folder belong to your user
[21:04] <trappist> benbloom_: asoundconf set-default-card <item from asoundconf list>
[21:04] <cant_login> how do i pipe output to a file?
[21:04] <OxDeadC0de> ls -al > outputfile.txt
[21:04] <cant_login> ls -al /tmp > /home/user/file.txt
[21:04] <trappist> cant_login: your-command > some_file
[21:05] <OxDeadC0de> lol everybody knows that one eh ;)
[21:05] <trappist> heh
[21:05] <trappist> that is, unless you expect output on stderr
[21:05] <OxDeadC0de> then it's like 1> or something isn't it? or is there an & in there
[21:05] <OxDeadC0de> dun remember all the piping stuff :P
[21:06] <cant_login> i wonder if i just found the issue.. "ls -al /tmp > /home/user/Desktop/file.txt" gives "ls: write error: No space left on device"
[21:06] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login lol, well, that could be an issue ;)
[21:06] <cant_login> and i did just move a large file from a media disk before the issue
[21:06] <cant_login> it lost power on the way back home..
[21:06] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: 2>&1 will redirect stderr to stdout
[21:06] <cant_login> let me remove a .iso
[21:07] <OxDeadC0de> trappist ohh so that's how it goes! :D
[21:07] <trappist> or use &> to redirect stderr and stdout to a file
[21:07] <maximilian-schro> hi everbody. it might be a very dump questin but ijust couldnt figured it out. in my taskbar on kde 4.1 the sound applet closed but i dont know hot to relunch it? can anybody help me with this?
[21:07] <trappist> maximilian-schro: kmix
[21:07] <cant_login> BINGO!
[21:07] <maximilian-schro> :)
[21:07] <trappist> maximilian-schro: should be able to launch it via alt-f2
[21:08] <maximilian-schro> yes i know rhat. i just didnt now the right command
[21:08] <benbloom_> trappist: how do I configure that card? or apply the change to the system (still getting no sound)
[21:08] <OxDeadC0de> grats cant_login! Now just make sure you always have at least a few mb of space ;)
[21:08] <maximilian-schro> thanks :)
[21:08] <cant_login> ain't that something.. out of space on my /home partition
[21:08] <maximilian-schro> but anyways. it closes x times a day. any clue way this could happen?
[21:08] <trappist> benbloom_: should take effect immediately - if you're getting no sound try running alsamixer to adjust things like pcm, volume, master, etc.
[21:09] <trappist> maximilian-schro: that's a tough one
[21:09] <trappist> it's probably crashing, but it's gonna be tough to find out why
[21:09] <cant_login> awesome.. thanks everybody
[21:09] <benbloom_> already messed with alsamixer. no luck :(
[21:09] <OxDeadC0de> trappist: especially without it compiled with debugging symbols
[21:09] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login glad we could help ^^
[21:10] <trappist> right, and I don't see a -dbg package for it
[21:10] <maximilian-schro> i am not doing anything special with it. it justs closes. and i didnt have any problems on kde 3
[21:10] <starenka> 'alo!
[21:10] <trappist> maybe kdelibs5-dbg would do it
[21:11] <OxDeadC0de> maximillian-schro it could be one of a million issues, my only suggestion would be to try upgrading (I have backports enabled for kde 4.1.3 instead of 4.1.2 which shipped with intrepid, but fyi, backports are TOTALLY unsupported)
[21:11] <trappist> maximilian-schro: also check launchpad.net for any known issues
[21:12] <starenka> I've migrated my kubuntu installation to another hardrive recently. Everyhting works like usual, BUT i doesnt seem to hybernate at all. I just hybernate it and next time it starts the whole system from scratch (also there's no graphcal boot ). I thought it was because i forget to tell the system to use swap partition, but its enabled and the problem is still here. thanx for reading this essay
[21:12] <maximilian-schro> thanks., i will check launchpad first. maybe i will find something. i just changed from gnome to kde and have to figure out some more stuff :)
[21:13] <trappist> ah, kdemultimedia-kde4-dbg is the one you want, I think
[21:14] <genii-around> back
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> hey guys
[21:14] <OxDeadC0de> All supporters in this channel remember: If they can't login to kde - but kdm starts, first ask for df -h, second ask them to remove ~/.Xauthority ;)
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> i went to boot kubuntu today like usual
[21:14] <benbloom_> already messed with alsamixer, trappist. no luck :(. i feel like I remember some GUI utility that was already a part of KDE3.5 the first time I installed Kubuntu. which is how I got it workingt then. anyone know?
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> but it hang up
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> i switched to vt1 and got this going up
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> 16.812894] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 9164544
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> [   16.812900] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1145568
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> :/
[21:14] <genii-around> cant_login: Ah, use then uppercase R
[21:15] <OxDeadC0de> genii-around we fixed it, he was out of space ;), hence the last comment I just made
[21:15] <DarkSmoke> is my partition corrupted or something?
[21:15] <DarkSmoke> :/
[21:15] <genii-around> OxDeadC0de: I was just catching up on scroll (just got back to computer)
[21:15] <benbloom_> lol trappist, I just realized someone in my house messed with the volume! so always my problem! the simplist.
[21:16]  * cant_login bows to the "are you sure it's plugged in" godz!
[21:16] <OxDeadC0de> darksmoke: sounds like hw issues to me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678096 - basically just says try individual replacement parts
[21:16] <trappist> benbloom_: hahaha you wouldn't believe how often that turns out the be the answer to sound card issues
[21:17] <DarkSmoke> hardware issues? you're trippin
[21:17] <starenka> *
[21:17] <DarkSmoke> windows works fine, so should linux
[21:17] <DarkSmoke> like it worked 3hours ago
[21:17] <DarkSmoke> i think its a corrupted partition
[21:17] <OxDeadC0de> isn't sr0 for cdroms? what is sr0?
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> my hard drive probably
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> cause its sata
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> 16.812894] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 9164544
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> [   16.812900] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1145568
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> [   19.188896] sr 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> [   19.188900] sr 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Medium Error [current]
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> [   19.188903] sr 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error
[21:18] <DarkSmoke> thats the whole error
[21:18] <OxDeadC0de> hard drives with sata are sd, not sr
[21:18] <cant_login> is there a way to take a screen shot while a file menu is open?
[21:18] <OxDeadC0de> my sr0 points to scd0
[21:18] <benbloom_> !return | DarkSmoke
[21:19] <genii-around> OxDeadC0de: Actually I asked him way back for df -h he had only 66% usage on his drive
[21:19] <OxDeadC0de> cant_login yeah, start ksnapshot, set it for 3 seconds or something
[21:19] <OxDeadC0de> genii-around maybe he did :P But his /home partition was filled to the brim ;)
[21:19] <cant_login> ok
[21:19] <benbloom_> I know-- just figured I'd have learned by now--  just finished a major battle with the hardware gods where it turned out to be a motherboard issue. so of course I am now humbled again! :D
[21:20] <starenka> hello
[21:20] <genii-around> OxDeadC0de: Aaaah :)
[21:20] <starenka> I've migrated my kubuntu installation to another hardrive recently. Everyhting works like usual, BUT i doesnt seem to hybernate at all. I just hybernate it and next time it starts the whole system from scratch (also there's no graphcal boot ). I thought it was because i forget to tell the system to use swap partition, but its enabled and the problem is still here. thanx for reading this essay
[21:20] <genii-around> OxDeadC0de: This is what he showed me at that time: http://pastebin.com/m242994fa
[21:21] <DarkSmoke> hmm i think its because i had a damaged cd in the drive OxDeadC0de
[21:21] <DarkSmoke> ;p
[21:21] <OxDeadC0de> genii-around ya from that I would have assumed as you did ^^
[21:22] <OxDeadC0de> darksmoke so it works now? :P
[21:23] <DarkSmoke> i didn't reboot to try
[21:23] <DarkSmoke> but i think it should
[21:24] <OxDeadC0de> genii-around apparently he didn't post all of it i guess, oh well, all good now so yay!
[21:25] <OxDeadC0de> starenka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3066404
[21:26] <starenka> OxDeadC0de:  well, it worked untill i migrated to new hdd...
[21:27] <starenka> there are ALOT messages in syslog
[21:29] <starenka> about hdd, but i dont know if its usual or not ;(
[21:31] <cant_login> thanks again for the help everyone. don't forget to plug the smoke detector back in.
[21:32] <matt_____> I remember, after freshly installing the newest Ubuntu, there is a button to install it to a flash drive, is this feature availible for Kubuntu?
[21:33] <OxDeadC0de> starenka what's your /boot/grub/menu.lst look like ? (pastebin it please)
[21:33] <OxDeadC0de> !paste
[21:33] <seba_> !es
[21:35] <OxDeadC0de> I have a feeling starenka's problem is with UUID's not being set
[21:36] <genii-around> OxDeadC0de: Did you get a blkid of current drive and a paste of old fstab for compare?
[21:36] <shadowhywind> hay all, when i try to install any package I am getthing The package vmware-server needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. how can i fix this message?
[21:37] <OxDeadC0de> genii-around he left before I could get more info from him, but I noticed hibernation uses RESUME=UUID=a63ede3b-316f-4281-a279-7a9a86e99f54 in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume - which leads me to believe his problems are with UUID's
[21:43] <Guest59818> Can someone help me fix my sound on kubuntu 8.10 kde4. It was working but it has stoped.
[21:43] <Brett_> howdy all... i've just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 yesterday and have been working my ways through the issues (glorious)... one that is really getting me is when i login to kde, there appear to be two network managers running. ps shows them as nm-applet and knetworkmanager. which one am i supposed to use? they seem to be getting very confused with each other
[21:44] <OxDeadC0de> Guest59818: Check to make sure your volume is turned on
[21:44]  * genii-around sips
[21:44] <Guest59818> kmix wont start
[21:45] <OxDeadC0de> brett_ they're both frontends to the same thing, nm-applet however is the gnome version
[21:46] <Guest59818> kmix(6426) Mixer::getGlobalMasterMD: Mixer::masterCardDevice() returns 0 (no globalMaster)
[21:47] <Brett_> 0xDeadC0de: how do i stop nm-applet from starting when kde starts? i've moved .kde out the way and it still starts even on a fresh startup...
[21:48] <OxDeadC0de> Guest59818 Ubuntu 8.10 right? k menu/system settings/sound - change your device preference so that alsa or pulseaudio are on top
[21:48] <PhilRod> Brett_: ah, I had the same issue - I removed network-manager-gnome in adept
[21:48] <PhilRod> seems to have fixed it
[21:48] <OxDeadC0de> brett_ I simply removed it, like philrod
[21:48] <Brett_> hehe love it, thanks will do that
[21:49] <OxDeadC0de> brett_ I looked for a couple hours before on howto keep it from starting with it installed (So I can use it in gnome), but for some reason in both gnome and kde they both want to start, no idea why
[21:49] <OxDeadC0de> could be something to do with the Xinit script or something it loads
[21:50] <Guest59818> I only see hde intel
[21:50] <Brett_> guess that's what we get for using kde on a distro originally made just to support gnome ;)
[21:51] <PhilRod> has anyone noticed slowness scrolling in the composer window in kmail in 8.10?
[21:52] <PhilRod> it's still there after an update to 4.1.3, and after switching from nvidia to nv driver
[21:52] <mopped> How can I delete everything in a folder?
[21:53] <athlon1> Kubuntu 8.10 and konqueror. Where are the other options of the pannel. In service I only see applications and fonts type, but not the others...
[21:53] <athlon1> Do I have to install any other component?
[21:53] <genii-around> mopped: rm -r /foldername/*
[21:53] <SJr|Nbook> Anyone know an app that will convert a Movie of unknown codec to iPod format for immediate export to a non-US extradition country?
[21:54] <genii-around> mopped: If it has non-empty subfolders use: rm -rf /foldername/*
[21:54] <mopped> can I just do rm -rf * if i'm already in the folder?
[21:54] <genii-around> mopped: Yes
[21:55] <mopped> ok thanks
[22:00] <earle> Howdy folks. I heard that there are packages available for KDE 4.2 (i.e. the current development version), is that correct?
[22:02] <OxDeadC0de> brett_ just found a better way than removing it - havn't tested it yet though, but the only autostart file nm-applet registers is with /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop - now when I open the other .desktops I see some that only start in gnome have the line "OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;", where nm-applet doesn't.. so I added that line, should do it
[22:02] <glkasleg> how can I choose konqueror as filebrowser instead of dolphine?
[22:02] <fridy> in kubuntu intrepid there are at least packages for kde 4.1.2
[22:03] <gavin2712> hello
[22:03] <OxDeadC0de> fridy in backports there's 4.1.3, (Backports are unsupported!)
[22:03] <Guest96839> I managed to get kmix to start, front and pcm are both up, nothing is muted but still no sound.
[22:04] <Guest96839> alsa wont start: The command could not be located because '/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[22:05] <Guest96839> any ideas?
[22:05] <Guest96839> I have to keep switching back to windows to play music it sucks :/
[22:08] <trappist> Guest96839: tried with sudo?
[22:08] <OxDeadC0de> Guest96839 I use pulseaudio on top of alsa so I can't really help, alsa works for me out of the box, and for pulseaudio i simply had to make /etc/asound.conf with four three-lined entries, then start pulseaudio
[22:09] <Guest96839> sudo alsa returns: alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume} :s I was expecting some volume controls
[22:09] <OxDeadC0de> guest96839 1) your guest name is a little annoying to type :P, 2), alsamixer for mixing
[22:10] <Guest96839> call me david..
[22:10] <Guest96839> ok thanks il try that
[22:10] <OxDeadC0de> ok then david: try /nick david (or something close as "David" is probably taken)
[22:11] <david0287> got it
[22:11] <OxDeadC0de> thank you :D
[22:11] <david0287> alsamixer all volumes are up
[22:11] <OxDeadC0de> and in kde menu/system settings/sound you have your alsa devices at the top of the prefered device lists right?
[22:13] <david0287> there is nothing in there that says alsa
[22:13] <OxDeadC0de> mine says HDA Nvidia (CONEXANT Analog)
[22:13] <david0287> output device preference: hda intel (alc286 analog)
[22:14] <OxDeadC0de> your speakers are plugged in (both computer and power) with the volume up right? (Or is it laptop or whu?)
[22:14] <OxDeadC0de> (Have to ask :P)
[22:14] <david0287> yes laptop, it works in windows
[22:15] <OxDeadC0de> in alsamixer, where it says Item: at the top and has a name next to it, it doesn't say (off) right?
[22:15] <OxDeadC0de> on master or pcm
[22:15] <seba_> !paste
[22:16] <david0287> nothing says off
[22:17] <david0287> master [db gain=-29, -29] is this normal?
[22:19] <david0287> well its up anyway
[22:20] <david0287> opening amarok I get xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[22:23] <cytiz_> Salut
[22:25] <OxDeadC0de> david0287 if you do: aplay somemp3.mp3 does it make any noise? (For me it produces static)
[22:26] <simoo> Hi, fresh install of Kubuntu, I ran the resticted driver app and ticked to activate the nvidia driver and the whole thing froze on 88% can anyone help?
[22:26] <simoo> I rebooted and then couldn't login
[22:27] <OxDeadC0de> simoo: log into the terminal, type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server , try again
[22:27] <onio> I'll gas u
[22:27] <OxDeadC0de> Salut? Are we taking shots of Vodka now? ^^
[22:28] <simoo> OxDeadC0de: thanks, actually I have reinstalled (it's so quick) shall I run the restricted driver ap again or try a different way?
[22:29] <OxDeadC0de> simoo I'd use the restricted driver app, it's more tailored to ubuntu than nvidia's installer package
[22:29] <simoo> OxDeadC0de: ok thanks, I'm giving it another shot
[22:33] <marco_> I'm having video playback issues
[22:33] <marco_> it seems to be freezing for a quarter of a second every now and then
[22:33] <simoo> OxDeadC0de: Right, worked this time. Might be worth mentioning that, it didn't work when the 'unsuported' repository was selected
[22:33] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ try a different video player
[22:33] <marco_> using mplayer, vlc and dragon on ubuntu 8.10
[22:33] <marco_> all present issues
[22:33] <OxDeadC0de> simoo that's strange, I have all repo's selected and then some and it worked for me earlier today
[22:34] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ you use alsa or pulseaudio or ?
[22:34] <marco_> in mplayer, pulse is giving:AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[22:34] <marco_> and failing back to alsa
[22:35] <simoo> OxDeadC0de: Must just be my system then. It was; fresh install, select 'unsupported', get updates, restricted driver freeze
[22:36] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ I'd open up top in a terminal, make sure there's no program spiking cpu usage every few seconds, make sure I have the latest video card drivers installed, and umm
[22:36] <marco_> using a core 2 duo T5670 laptop with 965GM graphics
[22:36] <david0287> 0xDeadCo0de: I heard the static, Restarted to shut it up!
[22:36] <marco_> ubuntu didn't ask for restricted drivers, I guess intel's open ones should be up to snuff.. or aren't they?
[22:36] <OxDeadC0de> david0287 lol, you could have pressed control+c to kill it ;), but okay so now we know pulseaudio is working and it's kde's backend that's having trouble
[22:37] <marco_> checked for rapid cpu apps, found nothing too :-(
[22:37] <OxDeadC0de> intels are open yeah
[22:37] <david0287> ok
[22:37] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ what about cpu frequency scaling?
[22:37] <marco_> fixed it in "performance mode", freezing occurs insignificantly less
[22:37] <OxDeadC0de> david0287 in kde menu/system settings/sound/backend, which backend do you use? xine or gstreamer?
[22:38] <david0287> xine is the only thing listed
[22:38] <marco_> I'm running the video from the local disk
[22:38] <marco_> so, no network bottlenecks too ;-(
[22:39] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ sata hd's?
[22:39] <marco_> powertop indicates the cause for most wakeups is from knotify4
[22:39] <marco_> aye, 7200rpm ones
[22:40] <marco_> it's a notebook computer though, but still should give enough bandwidth for a lowly dvd resolution xvid
[22:42] <starenka> hi why session saving works when logging out, but not when turning the comp.off?
[22:44] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ shot in the dark here, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/252094/
[22:46] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ are you using compiz or anything else that uses the graphics card a lot?
[22:47] <marco_> no, but compiz runs relatively fine if I turn it on
[22:47] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ also try disabling kwin's desktop effects if you use them (without compiz)
[22:48] <marco_> hmmm... no desktop effect seem to be activated
[22:48] <marco_> I think I'll benchmark kubuntu's pity by crying hopelessly in front of my webcam
[22:49] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ are there any errors in your xorg.log ? anything like: AIGLX error: drmMap of framebuffer failed (Invalid argument)(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[22:50] <marco_> only one error showed when grepping for "EE": (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B!
[22:51] <marco_> lots of Warning: We only handle seperate sync warnings
[22:52] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ I'd suspect that's your problem there ^^, I'm not expert on xorg or anything but that looks wrong
[22:53] <marco_> yeah, sure sounds kinda ugly... let's see what google tells us there...
[22:53] <trappist> hey where do I get the acroread package for intrepid?
[22:55] <trappist> nm found medibuntu
[22:59] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ you can try #intel-gfx (dunno if it's on this server though), see if they have ideas
[23:00] <marco_> hmm... failed to gather any possible solutions from google
[23:01] <marco_> I'll try bothering them on intel-gfx ;-) that failing, I think I'll give up on kubuntu :-(
[23:01] <OxDeadC0de> only one I saw was some guy compiling an unstable version of the intel driver and using that with his xorg
[23:02] <agustin> which is the preferred partition tool for kubuntu 8.10?
[23:02] <agustin> I used kvpm to create and mount a partition, but it is not automounting at boot time
[23:03] <marco_> hmmm... I'll see what I can do here. Thank you for your attention.
[23:04] <OxDeadC0de> good luck marco_!
[23:05] <SilentDis> hello
[23:06] <SilentDis> getting really slow dvd access ever since upgrading to 8.10.  dvds burn slow, dvd playback of movies is choppy, etc.  i'm trying to search for it but i mustn't be throwing the right keywords at it.  any suggestions?
[23:11] <keyzek> where can i find free shell account  ?
[23:12] <kkathman> keyzek:  why do you need a shell account?
[23:12] <SilentDis> ah hah!  disabled dma on my DVD drive, that'll do it...
[23:12] <SilentDis> !dma
[23:16] <earle> Sorry, I asked this earlier but didn't get much of a reaction... are there packages for kde 4.2? Or otherwise, how can I try out the current work in progress?
[23:17] <SilentDis> earle: last news i see on the kubuntu website is that 4.1.3 is available from backports.  nothing yet on 4.2 out there yet in ubuntu-maintained packages.
[23:18] <earle> SilentDis: Okay - thank you.
[23:19] <scratch613> Hello everybody.
[23:19] <OxDeadC0de> silentdis: 4.2 isn't expected to be released until Jan anyway
[23:21] <earle> Yes; hence my interest in the alphas. Or are we at beta now?
[23:21] <SilentDis> bbiab, time to see if i got the dma fixed on my drive
[23:26] <wallabee> when i install a new splash screen themes (unser get new themes) they dont appear in the box with the other themes but if i click on get new themes they show they are installed.  Any advice?
[23:30] <marco_> OxDeadC0de, #intel-gfx guys think something is causing the xorg server to "go do 100ms of work", it seems it's app related
[23:30] <marco_> some app seems to be causing xorg to do this, they are not sure what
[23:30] <OxDeadC0de> marco_ try running a failself session with just a terminal, launch vlc, open a vid, see if that's the case?
[23:31] <marco_> good thinking, I think I'll do just that
[23:31] <wallabee> how can i access other desktop effects besides those listed in system settings .. can i/ how can i use or access compiz , and kde control center??
[23:31] <genii-around> Interesting debugging tactic :)
[23:32] <earle> wallabee: compiz has its own settings application.
[23:33] <wallabee> earle: is this in adept?
[23:36] <earle> wallabee: I dunno, I did apt-get install compiz.
[23:36] <SilentDis> how do I enable DMA on my DVD drive?  the !dma factoid applies to versions earlier that 8.10
[23:37] <earle> wallabee: compiz is indeed available through adept.
[23:39] <Neremor> was the nice kcontrol tool removed from version 8.10?
[23:40] <choppy> wallabee: Maybe the compiz icon could help
[23:40] <wallabee> earle: thanks for checking  choppy:  i have something installed from adept "compiz fusion icon" but when i click it doesnt do anything
[23:41] <Neremor> if i try to install it via adept, im supposed to remove the kde-desktop files...
[23:41] <choppy> it sets itself in the bar i think
[23:41] <choppy> try right clicking the icon in the systray
[23:42] <earle> Look for CompizConfig Settings Manager in Settings in the K menu.
[23:44] <wallabee> choppy: it never appears in the systray..when i click on it appears on the bar below like its loading a normal program then just disappears
[23:44] <choppy> oh
[23:45] <choppy> dunno then
[23:45] <choppy> i used the icon for compiz
[23:45] <wallabee> earle: i dont see any CompizConfig Settings Manager in settings
[23:46] <wallabee> the icon worked for me in the earlier version of kubuntu but not the new
[23:47] <vicente> ¿como voy al chat en español?
[23:47] <JontheEchidna> !es
[23:52] <merrill__> does anyone know how to get a video card to work with kubuntu
[23:53] <jonasbet> hello
[23:53] <merrill__> hi
[23:53] <jonasbet> can anybody help to reinstall smplayer
[23:53] <jonasbet> ?
[23:54] <benbloom> merrill__: what card are you using?
[23:54] <merrill__> pinnacle pctvhd
[23:58] <merrill__> the damn thing says windows there has to be a way to connect with unix or ubuntu
[23:59] <cameri> how do I make KBFX appear on my desktop?