[12:59] hi thorwill [12:59] wanted to thank you "in person" for the logo and artwork [13:00] I am really pleased with tham :) [13:00] s/tham/them/ [13:01] xivulon: you're welcome :D [13:05] If you have other ideas on the web/app design, just ping me [13:06] will do in that case :) [14:39] hi [14:39] may i ask what Project Kyūdō is, like, in one sentence? [14:43] it is an attempt at optimizing the artwork process with the intent of thereby creating pretty things :-) [14:43] thorwil can probably offer a better answer [14:44] you mean so that ubuntu will no more be the distro with the ugliest default looks of the big 3? :P [14:44] * robsta ducks [14:46] just kidding [15:08] * thorwil is reasonably satisfied with the one sentence answer [15:09] so it's a process, not a style [15:09] correct [15:09] * robsta was looking for mockups [15:11] robsta: a bit farther down the road kyudo could benefit from technical expertise, not to forget implementors ;) [15:11] robsta: are you subscribed to the ubuntu-art list? [15:11] no, but i'm reading the archives every now and then [15:12] anyway, not following what you mean by the above statement [15:13] robsta: we have very few artists, even fewer people who actually touched a theme and virtually no coders here [15:14] i'd be happy to work with you in areas where our interests intersect [15:15] it's not always clear what is technically possible, what could become possible in reasonable time or what belongs into dreamland :) [15:15] robsta: cool :) [15:16] if you have technical questions just post to gnome-themes-list, that's what it's for [15:21] (or stop by in #gnome-art, where dreams are turned into nightmar^H^H^H reality) [15:54] if anyone has my ppa in their sources.list check the community-themes package that is coming down the pipes soon and let me know how it works [15:54] specificaly, the dust theme [15:55] hey kwwii [15:57] hi robsta [15:58] kwwii: fyi, good progress here, you can start designing themes [15:58] robsta: so, what are your interests, actually? :) [15:59] thorwil: css theming for gtk [16:00] robsta: cool, I'll get the latest stuff and check it out [16:00] robsta: but that surely is a means to a goal? [16:00] for now I am getting a falafel ;-) [16:00] kwwii: just not yet, but you can start _designing_ [16:01] hehe [16:01] I have quite a bit of design ready [16:01] kwwii, awesome [16:02] thorwil, i'm not a designer, so the best i can do is giving them the means to reach the goal [16:03] robsta: so part of your motivation is a feeling that current offerings are not good enough? [16:03] yes [16:04] good :) [16:07] robsta: i have been working on other stuff and need to get back to kyudo. part of what i'm planning is a call for per-widget mockups. per-widget to free the mind from having an eye on consistency right away [16:08] of course, so far i failed at getting anyone to contribute anything, with the exception of a bit of input on the text :} [16:12] it's very hard to judge a theme from per-widget mockus [16:12] there is no theme with per-widget mockups ;) [17:41] ooh, nubuntu has an awesome logo: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/19437980/nubuntu_devel_192x192.png [17:41] it features lock-heads! [17:49] nand: hi! do you already know http://jldugger.livejournal.com/21851.html ? [17:50] thorwil: thanks, I have indeed answered on the comments [17:50] I gave a sample of votes, but I'm quite skeptic at the expected results... [23:16] I suppose this may be a tad offtopic... but anyone in here use any wacom products? [23:17] ...the bamboo is looking tempting, but I don't know if it's actually as easy/fun to use as it looks [23:17] I don't want to blow $80 on something that's not fairly amazing to use [23:33] ah, digipro [23:34] It'd be nice to get the drivers for this into jaunty..