[12:59] <xivulon> hi thorwill
[12:59] <xivulon> wanted to thank you "in person" for the logo and artwork
[13:00] <xivulon> I am really pleased with tham :)
[13:00] <xivulon> s/tham/them/
[13:01] <thorwil> xivulon: you're welcome :D
[13:05] <xivulon> If you have other ideas on the web/app design, just ping me
[13:06] <thorwil> will do in that case :)
[14:39] <robsta> hi
[14:39] <robsta> may i ask what Project Kyūdō is, like, in one sentence?
[14:43] <kwwii> it is an attempt at optimizing the artwork process with the intent of thereby creating pretty things :-)
[14:43] <kwwii> thorwil can probably offer a better answer
[14:44] <robsta> you mean so that ubuntu will no more be the distro with the ugliest default looks of the big 3? :P
[14:44]  * robsta ducks
[14:46] <robsta> just kidding
[15:08]  * thorwil is reasonably satisfied with the one sentence answer
[15:09] <robsta> so it's a process, not a style
[15:09] <thorwil> correct
[15:09]  * robsta was looking for mockups
[15:11] <thorwil> robsta: a bit farther down the road kyudo could benefit from technical expertise, not to forget implementors ;)
[15:11] <thorwil> robsta: are you subscribed to the ubuntu-art list?
[15:11] <robsta> no, but i'm reading the archives every now and then
[15:12] <robsta> anyway, not following what you mean by the above statement
[15:13] <thorwil> robsta: we have very few artists, even fewer people who actually touched a theme and virtually no coders here
[15:14] <robsta> i'd be happy to work with you in areas where our interests intersect
[15:15] <thorwil> it's not always clear what is technically possible, what could become possible in reasonable time or what belongs into dreamland :)
[15:15] <thorwil> robsta: cool :)
[15:16] <robsta> if you have technical questions just post to gnome-themes-list, that's what it's for
[15:21] <robsta> (or stop by in #gnome-art, where dreams are turned into nightmar^H^H^H reality)
[15:54] <kwwii> if anyone has my ppa in their sources.list check the community-themes package that is coming down the pipes soon and let me know how it works
[15:54] <kwwii> specificaly, the dust theme
[15:55] <robsta> hey kwwii
[15:57] <kwwii> hi robsta
[15:58] <robsta> kwwii: fyi, good progress here, you can start designing themes
[15:58] <thorwil> robsta: so, what are your interests, actually? :)
[15:59] <robsta> thorwil: css theming for gtk
[16:00] <kwwii> robsta: cool, I'll get the latest stuff and check it out
[16:00] <thorwil> robsta: but that surely is a means to a goal?
[16:00] <kwwii> for now I am getting a falafel ;-)
[16:00] <robsta> kwwii: just not yet, but you can start _designing_
[16:01] <kwwii> hehe
[16:01] <kwwii> I have quite a bit of design ready
[16:01] <robsta> kwwii, awesome
[16:02] <robsta> thorwil, i'm not a designer, so the best i can do is giving them the means to reach the goal
[16:03] <thorwil> robsta: so part of your motivation is a feeling that current offerings are not good enough?
[16:03] <robsta> yes
[16:04] <thorwil> good :)
[16:07] <thorwil> robsta: i have been working on other stuff and need to get back to kyudo. part of what i'm planning is a call for per-widget mockups. per-widget to free the mind from having an eye on consistency right away
[16:08] <thorwil> of course, so far i failed at getting anyone to contribute anything, with the exception of a bit of input on the text :}
[16:12] <robsta> it's very hard to judge a theme from per-widget mockus
[16:12] <thorwil> there is no theme with per-widget mockups ;)
[17:41] <thorwil> ooh, nubuntu has an awesome logo: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/19437980/nubuntu_devel_192x192.png
[17:41] <thorwil> it features lock-heads!
[17:49] <thorwil> nand: hi! do you already know http://jldugger.livejournal.com/21851.html ?
[17:50] <nand> thorwil: thanks, I have indeed answered on the comments
[17:50] <nand> I gave a sample of votes, but I'm quite skeptic at the expected results...
[23:16] <ethana2> I suppose this may be a tad offtopic...  but anyone in here use any wacom products?
[23:17] <ethana2> ...the bamboo is looking tempting, but I don't know if it's actually as easy/fun to use as it looks
[23:17] <ethana2> I don't want to blow $80 on something that's not fairly amazing to use
[23:33] <ethana2> ah, digipro
[23:34] <ethana2> It'd be nice to get the drivers for this into jaunty..