| nikolam | ok, it is working now | 00:12 |
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| nikolam | Also my monitor on other machine stopped using dpms to turn off after screensaver | 00:13 |
| nikolam | therefore, it never turns-off automatically | 00:13 |
| deus_ | WHy in the nine hells is there different sound settings based on window manager | 00:16 |
| spowney | hey i was jus trying to change my computer name, and cant find applications-system-networking they havnt changed it in 8.10 hav they? | 00:40 |
| zoredache | spowney: don't know, but you could edit your /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts files manually | 00:41 |
| bad_ | hi there, do you need to use ndiswrapper for a broadcom chipset BCM4306 on xubuntu 8.04? | 00:42 |
| Odd-rationale | bad_: not really. i used b43-fwcutter. | 00:43 |
| Odd-rationale | it is easier to set up b43 if you have a wired internet connection available... | 00:43 |
| spowney | zoredache: ty for help, quicker to do that than carry on searching, no idea where it is nowadays | 00:44 |
| bad_ | well I do have a wired connection right now I'll lookup that b43-fwcutter thingmajig, thanks Odd-rationale | 00:46 |
| bad_ | can I get this through add-remoce, synaptic or does it have to be cli to install it? | 00:47 |
| Odd-rationale | bad_: from synaptics | 00:49 |
| Odd-rationale | *synaptic | 00:49 |
| bad_ | thanks again | 00:49 |
| bad_ | and I've got liftoff | 00:53 |
| bad_ | :) | 00:53 |
| bad_ | actually not | 01:19 |
| bad_ | never mind too late for now I'll be back | 01:19 |
| kazexe | how a return to xfce 4.4.2 | 02:02 |
| kazexe | how to return to xfce 4.4.2 | 02:03 |
| kazexe | from 4.6.0 | 02:04 |
| Hikefu | Which Xubuntu are you running? | 02:04 |
| kazexe | 8.10 | 02:04 |
| kazexe | whit 4.6 | 02:05 |
| kazexe | but | 02:05 |
| kazexe | i don't like it to much | 02:05 |
| kazexe | i want to return to the stable version | 02:05 |
| Hikefu | I'm not sure if you can do it easily. | 02:06 |
| Hikefu | Without downgrading. | 02:06 |
| Hikefu | To Hardy. | 02:06 |
| kazexe | i wanto downgrade it | 02:06 |
| Hikefu | Well I don't think you can downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04 without reinstalling. | 02:06 |
| kazexe | no of course not | 02:07 |
| kazexe | from the repo | 02:07 |
| Hikefu | You'd be better off backing things up and just reinstalling Hardy. | 02:07 |
| kazexe | to risky | 02:07 |
| Hikefu | Unless you could install Ubuntu 8.10 and then download XFCE 4.4.2 from somewhere and install it overtop of that. | 02:08 |
| kazexe | maybe if i uninstall the xubuntu a reinstalling disabling the repo sour of 4.6 | 02:08 |
| Hikefu | I would assume that the only source of XFCE in xubuntu is one with 4.6; I use Ubuntu though, and Crunchbang linux with Openbox. | 02:09 |
| Hikefu | I'm not an expert. | 02:09 |
| Hikefu | If you need something lightweight, you should try out Crunchbang. It's basically Ubuntu with no gnome, just openbox, and it comes with more preinstalled apps than any ubuntu variant. | 02:10 |
| TheSheep | istn't 'more preinstalled apps' conflicting with 'lightweight'? | 02:10 |
| Hikefu | How so? | 02:11 |
| Hikefu | Number of apps makes less difference. | 02:11 |
| Hikefu | It's the type of apps. | 02:11 |
| TheSheep | kazexe: I think you can just uninstall teh xfce packages and install the 4.4.0 from regular repository | 02:11 |
| kazexe | crunchbag | 02:12 |
| kazexe | he? | 02:12 |
| Hikefu | http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/photo.php?pid=173158&id=1307239503 | 02:12 |
| Hikefu | I have some screenshots there. | 02:12 |
| Hikefu | I understand what you're talking about TheSheep, the apps are lightweight, it uses xfce for some things too. | 02:12 |
| Hikefu | But it comes with a lot of lightweight multimedia, editing, apps... ones people use, not just crappy default ones. | 02:13 |
| TheSheep | Hikefu: so what does it have for editing images? | 02:14 |
| Hikefu | hold on, I'm in ubuntu now... I have an app list somewhere. | 02:14 |
| Hikefu | http://crunchbang.org/wiki/crunchbang-linux-8-dot-04-dot-02-applications-list/ | 02:15 |
| Hikefu | It's hands down the best implementation of openbox that I've seen | 02:15 |
| TheSheep | so it's GIMP | 02:16 |
| TheSheep | how original :) | 02:16 |
| Hikefu | LOL, well, there really isn't much else I guess. | 02:17 |
| Hikefu | I'm not even sure why I bother. I have 2 gb of ram... I just like running something different. | 02:18 |
| TheSheep | Hikefu: why would I need a... palette designer? | 02:18 |
| TheSheep | or a color picker asa separate application? | 02:18 |
| Hikefu | Well the guy just remastered his ubuntu setup, and he's into design... so it's there just in case I guess. | 02:18 |
| TheSheep | for me lightweight means 'with no useless parts' :) | 02:19 |
| Hikefu | I guess you could say that. For me, lightweight is more about the performance and footprint of running apps. | 02:20 |
| Hikefu | You using intrepid xubuntu? | 02:20 |
| kazexe | how to uninstall xfce | 02:21 |
| Hikefu | sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop -- but that won't get rid of apps that might depend on xfce 4.6. | 02:21 |
| Hikefu | maybe aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop? | 02:22 |
| TheSheep | kazexe:just search for 'xfce' in synaptic | 02:23 |
| TheSheep | kazexe: and unistall the packages that have 4.6.0 version | 02:23 |
| kazexe | i'm doing that right noe | 02:27 |
| MHz128 | hi guys | 02:29 |
| MHz128 | I would like to run a gnome app called netspeed, will this require installing all of the gnome dependencies? | 02:29 |
| MHz128 | I think gnome-system-monitor is included with xubuntu by default, does this mean I have gnome deps installed already? | 02:30 |
| kazexe | i downloaded xfce 4.4.3 | 02:35 |
| kazexe | graphical installer | 02:36 |
| kazexe | for my intrepid hope it works | 02:36 |
| xubuser | Hello People. | 02:40 |
| xubuser | Hello People. | 02:40 |
| xubuser | do people use Skype for convs? | 02:41 |
| Chaser_ | xubuser: some people do | 02:42 |
| kazexe | how to install gtk+ | 02:48 |
| xubuser | clear | 02:51 |
| Ultraputz | having trouble getting banshee to play off of somafm, getting this: | 03:02 |
| Ultraputz | Banshee.Playlists.Formats.InvalidPlaylistException: An application exception has occurred. | 03:02 |
| Ultraputz | at Banshee.Playlists.Formats.PlaylistParser.Parse (Banshee.Base.SafeUri uri) [0x00000] | 03:03 |
| Ultraputz | at Banshee.Streaming.RadioTrackInfo.LoadStreamUri (System.String uri) [0x00000] | 03:03 |
| dcolish | !pastebin | Ultraputz | 03:05 |
| ubottu | Ultraputz: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 03:05 |
| Taza | Uh, can anyone give me a pastebin of the default post-install 8.10 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ? | 03:13 |
| Taza | I managed to destroy mine | 03:13 |
| kazexe | xfce repo | 03:19 |
| Ultraputz | taza - | 03:20 |
| Ultraputz | http://paste.ubuntu.com/70292/ | 03:20 |
| kazexe | xubuntu repo | 03:20 |
| Taza | Thanks | 03:20 |
| Taza | Hmm. Very not good. I ran "apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.24*" to free disk space, just upgraded to 8.10 | 03:23 |
| Taza | ... aand I suddenly see no kernel in grub | 03:23 |
| Ultraputz | since 8.10, banshee won't play somafm, here. | 03:24 |
| Taza | I still see the folder for 2.6.27-7-generic under /lib/modules but not in grub... | 03:24 |
| Taza | This bad, even I can see that much. :p | 03:25 |
| kazexe | xubuntu resotory | 03:27 |
| Taza | Fix'd, linux-generic was not installed. | 03:28 |
| Taza | This is not what I'd like to do but it (somewhat) works | 03:28 |
| kazexe | reinstalling xubuntu | 03:35 |
| kazexe | from ubuntu | 03:35 |
| kazexe | dependeny error thunar a xfcedestop | 03:36 |
| kennyc91 | Does Xubuntu have a minimum requirement as far as CPU speed is concerned? | 03:42 |
| kazexe | i solved thanxs | 03:46 |
| Taza | How can 8.10 be THIS buggy? | 03:51 |
| Taza | I mean Jesus Christ. The taskbar icon for "a package manager is working" takes half of my taskbar | 03:52 |
| maxamillion | Taza: because ubuntu sucks horridly | 03:52 |
| Necrosan | aks me how i feel taza | 03:52 |
| Taza | maxamillion: Well I knew that, but lord knows the Feeedora sucked more | 03:52 |
| Necrosan | aks me | 03:52 |
| Taza | How do you feel? | 03:52 |
| maxamillion | Taza: what is your qualm with fedora? | 03:53 |
| Necrosan | I feel like shit | 03:53 |
| Taza | Nothing - just all fedora eee distroes have been horrible | 03:53 |
| maxamillion | Taza: ohhhhh for the eee | 03:53 |
| * maxamillion missed that part | 03:54 | |
| Taza | It forgot the damn KERNEL. THE KERNEL. | 03:54 |
| Taza | My network manager is nowhere to be found, neither is my battery monitor | 03:54 |
| maxamillion | Taza: you should install debian ... they have solid support for the eee | 03:55 |
| maxamillion | Taza: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC | 03:55 |
| Taza | It was working fine short of the wifi and overclocking before | 03:55 |
| maxamillion | yeah, i didn't overclock mine and my wifi worked out of the box with debian | 03:57 |
| maxamillion | i ran the sid branch | 03:57 |
| Taza | I need to overclock | 03:57 |
| Taza | I've got one of the Bad Batch SDHC drives. | 03:58 |
| maxamillion | oh ouch | 04:01 |
| Taza | network-manager isn't working either. ;_; | 04:03 |
| Necrosan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC1d1SCieis&feature=related | 04:06 |
| Taza | taskbar's broken, as broken as it can be. | 04:08 |
| Taza | NetworkManager, battery don't show up, the "a package manager is working" icon is ~*20 larger than it should be - whereas the "reboot" and "updates are available" work normally | 04:09 |
| Ultraputz | taza - sounds like more is wrong than the linux kernal being removed | 04:11 |
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| Ultraputz | icon sizes being wonky sounds like bad symlinks | 04:12 |
| Taza | Ultraputz: Yeah, but wtf can I do? | 04:12 |
| Taza | This was a relatively normal 8.04 install, perfectly working, and when I updated to 8.10 everything's broken suddenly. | 04:12 |
| Ultraputz | i'd hope TheSheep were awake to provide his sage wisdom, and barring that, get the data off and just reinstall. | 04:12 |
| Taza | All I did was use the update manager to update to 8.10 and "apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.24*" | 04:13 |
| Taza | What's the default battery applet in Xfce? | 04:13 |
| Ultraputz | have you rebooted thge machine since you did that? | 04:13 |
| Taza | Yes | 04:13 |
| Ultraputz | and it came up? | 04:13 |
| Taza | I updated to 8.10, rebooted, did "apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.24*", did not reboot because I noticed warning messages, did "apt-get install linux-generic" after that, rebooted | 04:14 |
| Taza | It's came up to desktop every time, just everything is weirdly wonky | 04:14 |
| Ultraputz | gimme a bullet list of symptoms -- icons wonky, what else? | 04:15 |
| Taza | Device set to appear in /dev/SDHC doesn't - in fact, the SD reader drive doesn't appear at all even under fdisk -l | 04:16 |
| Taza | No task bar icons for battery / network manager. | 04:16 |
| Ultraputz | did you try putting the old kernal back ? :-) | 04:16 |
| Taza | AmaroK complains about missing Perl components | 04:16 |
| Taza | Icons wonky, sd card reader missing, network manager and battery missing from taskbar - AmaroK appears okay though. | 04:18 |
| Taza | Kernel was missing when I installed. | 04:18 |
| Taza | As was linux-generic | 04:18 |
| Ultraputz | i'm just saying, did you try installing what you'd removed just to see? | 04:19 |
| Taza | How would I do that? | 04:19 |
| Taza | "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic"? | 04:20 |
| Ultraputz | ja... | 04:20 |
| Ultraputz | unless someone else thinks that's an exceptionally bad idea :-) | 04:20 |
| Ultraputz | how much stuff is on there that is non-system | 04:20 |
| Taza | Cannot in 8.10 | 04:20 |
| Ultraputz | hrm. | 04:20 |
| Ultraputz | did you try just dropping to maintenance shell and running fsck ? | 04:21 |
| Taza | A fair bit of configuration files, and some older kernel modules. | 04:21 |
| Taza | Aaand how would I do that? Close X? | 04:21 |
| Taza | heck, how do you kill just X under Xubuntu 8.10? | 04:21 |
| Ultraputz | you reboot, hit esc when grub comes up and select the maintenance version of whatever kernal you're running | 04:21 |
| Ultraputz | it should come up a # prompt | 04:21 |
| Ultraputz | run fsck | 04:21 |
| Ultraputz | then do shutdown -r now | 04:21 |
| Taza | Yeahyeah, I wasn't just familiar with "maintenance shell" | 04:21 |
| Ultraputz | sorry, oldschool here :-) | 04:22 |
| Taza | Uh | 04:22 |
| Taza | I'm running SDD | 04:22 |
| Ultraputz | eee pc or something ? | 04:22 |
| Taza | Yup | 04:22 |
| Ultraputz | no experience with such systems, dunno the ins and outs of sdd-based systems. | 04:23 |
| Taza | fsck says everything is okay | 04:23 |
| Ultraputz | i'm sure you tried looking on ubuntu forums ? | 04:23 |
| Taza | Yeah, no help there | 04:23 |
| Ultraputz | how much of a pain is reinstallation? | 04:23 |
| Taza | Well, right now? Lots. In six days? Not much. | 04:24 |
| Taza | Guess I should have waited 'till six days later updating... | 04:24 |
| Ultraputz | oh, you're away from your desktop | 04:24 |
| Taza | No, I'm not actually. | 04:25 |
| Taza | I'm writing this from my desktop. I should go travelling today with my laptop | 04:25 |
| Ultraputz | when why is backup and reinstall a pain? | 04:25 |
| Ultraputz | you can torrent install media if you don't have it already pretty d*** fast | 04:25 |
| Taza | Because I need to do a fair bit of adjustments. | 04:25 |
| Ultraputz | sounds like you're in for that already | 04:26 |
| Taza | Eh, I suppose | 04:26 |
| Ultraputz | you could back up most of your configs by just backing up home | 04:27 |
| Taza | I still don't get how the fsck this happened | 04:27 |
| Ultraputz | me either. that's why i'm suggesting reinstall -- i mean, i'm sure it's an interestingproblem -- how much research do you want to do before you can use your laptop for fun stuff? :-) | 04:27 |
| Ultraputz | fwiw, i keep an image of my laptop hdd on the desktop so that, if something horrific happens, it's just unroll and go. | 04:28 |
| Ultraputz | including drive replacements | 04:28 |
| Taza | Blech. | 04:28 |
| Ultraputz | those things are tiny, if sdd, it's gotta be under 8g, ja? | 04:28 |
| Taza | Yup | 04:28 |
| Ultraputz | that's not painful... | 04:28 |
| Taza | I could have booted off one USB stick (got a spare 256 one) and backup to a 8gb stick if I compress | 04:29 |
| Ultraputz | or just get on the network, dump your home directory, and reinstall :-) | 04:29 |
| Ultraputz | booting off the stick is how you'd launch a restore op anyway... | 04:29 |
| Taza | Hokay | 04:29 |
| Taza | NetworkManager IS there | 04:30 |
| Taza | It's icon is just lost | 04:30 |
| Ultraputz | ... | 04:30 |
| Taza | Fuck this, I'm reinstalling. ;_; | 04:30 |
| Ultraputz | you could also get a dead chicken, a maraca... a grass skirt... | 04:30 |
| Taza | The chicken has to be LIVE to sacrifice to the gods of updating | 04:30 |
| Taza | Plus you forgot the goat | 04:30 |
| Ultraputz | no, i was going to keep the goat.... for other... uses. | 04:30 |
| Ultraputz | taza means 'fresh' in either turkish or egyptian-arabic. i can't remember which. | 04:31 |
| Taza | Turkish. Also "pot" in Spanish | 04:31 |
| Ultraputz | beauty :-) | 04:31 |
| Ultraputz | pot as in the plant or pot as in the thing soup is made in? | 04:32 |
| Taza | The thing soup is made in. Unfortunately. | 04:32 |
| Taza | On the upside, anything caring about file permissions in my home folder is already on my ext2-formatted SDHC | 04:33 |
| Ultraputz | beauty | 04:34 |
| Ultraputz | so it's punch and go, almost. | 04:34 |
| Ultraputz | minus the annoying itch of defeat :-) | 04:34 |
| Taza | All I need to do is to copy /home to a vfat-formatted stick | 04:34 |
| Taza | Frankly, you learn to get over defeat in favor of getting a working system pretty quickly | 04:35 |
| Ultraputz | ja. | 04:35 |
| Ultraputz | at any minute, this crap-castle netvista may plunge through the floorboards, but that's ok, it syncs with two other boxes. all three of them are shakey, but odds are, one will survive anything but a meteor strike. :-) | 04:36 |
| Taza | I mean, no kernel, whacked icons... whatever it is, it'd need deep wizardry to fix | 04:37 |
| Taza | 21% of xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso downloaded | 04:37 |
| Ultraputz | via torrent? | 04:37 |
| Taza | Via ftp | 04:38 |
| Ultraputz | via torrent, i had it in like 8-10 minutes. | 04:38 |
| Taza | Yeah, but I didn't bother to find the torrent link. :P | 04:38 |
| Taza | It's downloading at my connection's max speed anyway, so eh | 04:38 |
| Ultraputz | lazy, cheeky. a man after my own heart. :-) | 04:38 |
| Taza | And I just remembered the hardest part. ;_; | 04:39 |
| Taza | Fixing my pppd / bluetooth settings | 04:39 |
| Ultraputz | ppp... | 04:39 |
| Ultraputz | dialip? | 04:39 |
| Ultraputz | up? | 04:39 |
| Ultraputz | or dsl ? | 04:39 |
| Taza | Just old-fashioned dialup in a new way | 04:39 |
| Taza | 3g | 04:39 |
| Taza | I did say I was going travelling | 04:39 |
| Ultraputz | in turkmenistan? :-) | 04:40 |
| Taza | Please. | 04:40 |
| Taza | It's 3g dialup | 04:40 |
| Taza | Old thing here but brand new in the states | 04:40 |
| Ultraputz | hey, i'd go. some really cool archeology being done there at the moment. | 04:41 |
| Taza | Ya know what 3g is? | 04:41 |
| Ultraputz | don't keep up with phone tech | 04:41 |
| Taza | Yup. The reason the new iPhone is iPhone 3g | 04:41 |
| Ultraputz | yeah, i knew it was an improved gsm or something | 04:41 |
| Ultraputz | i hate cellphones. i have a tiny little POS phone that is usually off. | 04:42 |
| Taza | Dude | 04:42 |
| Taza | 3g here is awesome+++ | 04:42 |
| Taza | It's basically a broadband-speed ppp mobile connection | 04:42 |
| Ultraputz | i think its the part about having microwave burst transmitters next to my abdominal organs and head that bothers me. | 04:42 |
| dcolish | Taza, this is better suited for #xubuntu-offtopic | 04:43 |
| Ultraputz | dc - you have any helpful ideas to contribute maybe? | 04:44 |
| Taza | dcolish: Well, 3g is still on subject for Xubuntu given I need to configure Xubuntu to support i | 04:44 |
| Taza | * it | 04:44 |
| dcolish | ok well then lets talk about that | 04:44 |
| Taza | Which it tries to do by default and falls really flat on it's face | 04:45 |
| dcolish | Taza, thats not going to solve the issue. If you explain the problem we can help you or at least try | 04:45 |
| Taza | NetworkManager doesn't allow the use of a custom ppp script for specific devices | 04:46 |
| Taza | Happy? ;p | 04:46 |
| Taza | Which means I need to manually start my ppp connections via pppd and networkmanager doesn't recognize them, and always sets Firefox in offline mode when I'm using the ppp connection | 04:47 |
| dcolish | Of course | 04:47 |
| Taza | Now, if you're going to be so anal retentive about THE TOPIC AND NOTHING BUT THE TOPIC, can you contribute? | 04:49 |
| dcolish | Taza, you should watch your language and your attitude | 04:49 |
| Taza | You an op, I assume? | 04:49 |
| Ultraputz | dcolish - give some leeway -- maybe someone with a problem might be exceptionally frustrated? | 04:50 |
| dcolish | I am trying to help moderate a forum for open discussion of issues | 04:50 |
| Taza | dcolish: It's impossible for me to watch my attitude due to a neurological problem btw. Show some respect towards the disabled. | 04:51 |
| Taza | (And yes, that's a real condition I really have.) | 04:51 |
| dcolish | Taza, why do you need a custom ppp script? Is that part of the 3g providers connection parameters? | 04:52 |
| Taza | Yes. | 04:52 |
| dcolish | What version of NM are you running currently? | 04:52 |
| Taza | The whole script is actually over at the Finnish wiki | 04:52 |
| Taza | I wouldn't know | 04:52 |
| Ultraputz | you can version it from command line i think | 04:52 |
| Taza | Given that, well, my kernel and half of my software just disappeared there and I'm preparing to reinstall | 04:52 |
| Ultraputz | it's network-manager --version it hink ? | 04:53 |
| Taza | No and no | 04:53 |
| dcolish | Taza, is this similar to your issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/116696 | 04:53 |
| Taza | Aptitude says 0.7~~svn2 | 04:54 |
| Taza | More or less | 04:54 |
| Taza | Though, I haven't gotten Intrepid Ibex to work yet | 04:55 |
| Taza | Because it had a disappearing kernel trick and icons were lost | 04:55 |
| dcolish | By disappearing, what do you mean? | 04:55 |
| Taza | dcolish: BTW, this is not on topic - but do make friends with rej of #gentoo fame, you might find the community more inviting to yourself. | 04:55 |
| Taza | I mean the "package manager is working" icon is around... twenty times larger than normal | 04:56 |
| Taza | And networkmanager/battery applet icons are not there at all | 04:56 |
| Taza | Ultraputz: Do you think I need to backup other places than /etc (for selective migration) and /home ? | 04:56 |
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| Taza | dcolish: Also, I find something a bit curious. Was Ubuntu the first distro you started contributing towards? | 04:57 |
| Ultraputz | not really | 04:58 |
| Ultraputz | i wouldn't bother | 04:58 |
| Ultraputz | because whatever it is, unless you've got weird custom kernal mods or something... | 04:58 |
| Taza | Yeah well I have to compile those kernel by kernel anyway | 04:58 |
| Taza | And all others are already as debs for ibex except one. | 04:58 |
| Taza | dcolish: I updated to 8.10, it forgot having a kernel (linux-generic) got uninstalled, and after that both device support - heck, an USB drive is missing - and task bar icons have gotten certain small birds upwardly inclined. | 04:59 |
| Taza | dcolish: Now, did you interrupt our tech discussion that is still relevant to the channel without having anything to contribute nor any replacing more on-topic discussion it could have bothered? Tsk. | 05:11 |
| Taza | O tempora o mores. Ain't like it used to be. | 05:12 |
| dcolish | Taza, good luck with your issues | 05:12 |
| Taza | Ubuntu's the September That Never Ended of FreeNode, unfortunately. Sure it brought it to normal consumers, but well. | 05:13 |
| Taza | Summarization of my problems: Somehow when updating to 8.10 from 8.04, Xubuntu managed to lose both the kernel and icons. | 05:14 |
| Taza | I'm reinstalling it because a) it's faster than fixing it b) I have unnecessary files on my hard drive anyway c) clean installs always work better on Ubuntu. | 05:16 |
| dcolish | Taza, you're right, clean installs can be easier, but it would help us to know what went wrong. Could you possibly post a pastebin with your /var/log/dpkg.log output | 05:20 |
| Taza | No. | 05:21 |
| Taza | Which might actually give a hint. My /var/log/ empties itself every reboot. | 05:21 |
| Taza | Or well, to be specific, was a ramdisk | 05:22 |
| dcolish | Is there a reason for using a ramdisk for that volume? | 05:22 |
| Taza | Yes. SDD drive. | 05:22 |
| dcolish | Do you not have enough room on the drive for your logs? I'm pushy because there is almost no way to debug a system without the logs in that directory. Maybe you can boot and more them to a usb drive or are you having trouble mounting | 05:25 |
| Taza | Waitwhat? | 05:26 |
| Taza | Do you actually know a thing about Linux? | 05:26 |
| dcolish | Taza, that is a comment that is completely uncalled for. | 05:26 |
| Necrosan | Taza is a jerk. | 05:26 |
| Necrosan | Who needs help? | 05:27 |
| Taza | There is NOTHING except logs created on every bootup there | 05:27 |
| Taza | Necrosan: Well I don't anymore, I'm reinstalling | 05:27 |
| Taza | 8.10 ate my kernel and icons | 05:27 |
| Necrosan | Why is your /var/log setup incorrectly? | 05:27 |
| dcolish | Taza, lets say the problem is on shutdown, for example | 05:27 |
| Taza | SDD drive. | 05:27 |
| Taza | Necrosan: 'sides, "incorrectly"? | 05:27 |
| Taza | I worked hard to get it that way | 05:27 |
| Necrosan | That's wrong though. | 05:27 |
| Taza | Why so? | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | Why do you not want /var/log populated with useful information? | 05:28 |
| Taza | SDD drive. | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | #932965 | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | What does that have to do with anything? | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | SDD drive == Regular drive | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | For most aspects. | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | And it's SSD. | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | Not SDD. | 05:28 |
| Necrosan | Duh. | 05:29 |
| Taza | Yeah, except for why you don't want /var/log set up that way | 05:29 |
| Taza | Yes, SSD, you're right there. Too bad you're clueless what the restrictions of the technology are. | 05:29 |
| Necrosan | I'm really not, Taza. | 05:29 |
| Necrosan | Explain to me what your problem is. | 05:29 |
| Necrosan | I DOUBT it has to do with the fact your disk is an SSD. | 05:29 |
| Taza | Ubuntu ate my kernel. | 05:29 |
| Necrosan | Probably PEBCAK. | 05:29 |
| Taza | Yeahreallynot | 05:29 |
| Taza | I've been using Linux for eight years now and I just ran the default update script | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | Sorry dude, you don't know how to configure your install properly. | 05:30 |
| dcolish | Necrosan, this is not helping | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | Sure. | 05:30 |
| Taza | Plus I have a SSD drive which means I do not want a normal /var/log | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | Elaborate on your problem, symptoms and hoohah. | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | Taza: WHY? | 05:30 |
| Taza | For obvious reasons, well, to anyone who knows more about SSD than "it's a drive" | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | Sure. | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | It's a big old flash disk. | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | For the most part. | 05:30 |
| Taza | SSD has limited write cycles. For the earlier models, such as I have, very limited. | 05:30 |
| Necrosan | Dude. | 05:30 |
| Taza | Plus this is soldered right in so I cannot switch it | 05:31 |
| Necrosan | Get a better drive? | 05:31 |
| Necrosan | What system is this? | 05:31 |
| Taza | It's a chip on the motherboard | 05:31 |
| Taza | Now get a clue and buzz off? | 05:31 |
| Necrosan | You get a clue. | 05:31 |
| Necrosan | You have told no one the situation. | 05:31 |
| Taza | Necrosan: Only five times past 2 hours | 05:31 |
| Necrosan | You came in ranting & raving about how you're an 8 year LINUX vet. | 05:31 |
| Taza | Necrosan: I've been on the channel for 2.5 hours | 05:31 |
| Necrosan | Reiterate again for me. | 05:31 |
| Taza | Explaining several times my problem. | 05:32 |
| Necrosan | My buffer is gong. | 05:32 |
| Necrosan | s/gong/gone | 05:32 |
| Taza | I updated from a perfectly working 8.04 system to 8.10 | 05:32 |
| Necrosan | OK. | 05:32 |
| gnomefreak | Necrosan: Taza please either be helpful or better yet get back on topic and ignore each other. | 05:32 |
| Necrosan | Taza: What kind of system is this? | 05:32 |
| Taza | Rebooted, then went and removed linux-generic-whatever-version-8.04 uses. | 05:32 |
| Necrosan | Info, please. | 05:32 |
| Taza | It's a normal Xubuntu install, with /var/log set to disappear? | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | You booted in to the new kernel no problem? | 05:33 |
| Taza | I'm not sure. | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | Tell me about the SSD setup. | 05:33 |
| Taza | Then I noticed there's no kernel in grub. | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | Er. | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | Weird. | 05:33 |
| Taza | And I had to install linux-generic to get a kernel. | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | If I were you, I would do a fresh install. I haven't trusted any major rev OS updater in years. | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | Yeah, somethings messed up. | 05:33 |
| Taza | Thank heavens I noted it in time. | 05:33 |
| Necrosan | I'd blame it on Ubuntu. | 05:33 |
| Taza | Then the "a package manager is working" icon is around 256x256 pixels, where the NetworkManager and battery plugin icons don't appear at all | 05:34 |
| Taza | That's just the problems I detected in 10 minutes. | 05:34 |
| Necrosan | Reinstall. You're screwed. | 05:34 |
| Necrosan | Well, it's more work than its worth. | 05:34 |
| Taza | I did say I was reinstalling too | 05:34 |
| Necrosan | Definitely fixable, but I'd just backup what's critical and reinstall. | 05:34 |
| Necrosan | Sure, but a reinstall USUALLY isn't necessary. | 05:34 |
| Necrosan | In your condition it sounds like it would benefit all concerned parties. | 05:35 |
| gnomefreak | Necrosan: if you cant help him please dont comment since it is fixable (the bubble is pretty much gonne be the hard one since there is no setting to change size) | 05:35 |
| Taza | Necrosan: 'sides, before you go for the ad hominem I'd really start understanding what they talk about first. | 05:35 |
| Necrosan | gnomefreak: When Ubuntu breaks, it breaks bad. | 05:36 |
| Necrosan | I think we all can attest to that. | 05:36 |
| gnomefreak | Necrosan: no it doesnt | 05:36 |
| Necrosan | Really? | 05:37 |
| Necrosan | More Ubuntu installs have been broken from updates than ANY major operating system. | 05:37 |
| Necrosan | I think that says something for its track record. | 05:37 |
| dcolish | Necrosan, I guess you dont use windows | 05:37 |
| Necrosan | I don't. | 05:37 |
| Necrosan | But Windows is in that quote. | 05:37 |
| Taza | Damnit. Paper-eating pussy in my bed. ;_; | 05:38 |
| Taza | 'tleast he didn't eat anything important | 05:38 |
| Necrosan | You got a cat, Taza? | 05:38 |
| dcolish | Is anyone here to actually FIX their system? Let me know, I'm around | 05:38 |
| gnomefreak | Taza: please dont use that kind of language | 05:39 |
| Taza | Necrosan: Cutest thing ever except when it's eating my papers. | 05:39 |
| Necrosan | dcolish: I may give my PS3 another WIFI enabling attempt. | 05:39 |
| Necrosan | Taza: I have no cat. I do have a woman though. | 05:39 |
| Necrosan | She's pretty warm, too. | 05:39 |
| Taza | gnomefreak: It's a pussy. And the neighbour has a cock too, but at least it's far enough I don't hear it every morning. | 05:39 |
| Taza | Animals. | 05:39 |
| dcolish | Necrosan, good luck with that. You know there is a linux driver package on the Marvell site. | 05:40 |
| gnomefreak | Taza: that doesnt change anything please dont use that language, if you want to talk about non ubuntu teck please join #xubuntu | 05:40 |
| Taza | gnomefreak: Offtopic, yes, vulgar language no. | 05:41 |
| gnomefreak | Taza: yes it is. that is last warning | 05:41 |
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| knome | how can i force a pkg to be removed? | 07:42 |
| knome | i can't uninstal it, but it doesn't depepndonanythingandenythingdoesn't dependonit | 07:42 |
| knome | +spaces | 07:43 |
| knome | i get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70365/ | 07:50 |
| deoks | knome: Read Line 252 in the apt-get(8) manual page. | 07:55 |
| knome | deoks, output: paste line 17 | 07:57 |
| deoks | But it will get removed if you forced it with apt-get as in the apt-get manual page? Or am I wrong? | 07:59 |
| knome | no, the Ãpkg still exists. | 07:59 |
| knome | solved. created dir /lib/modules/2.6.24-20-eeepc | 08:06 |
| knome | where is the xfce-terminal app icon? | 08:54 |
| wisthler_ | hello | 09:05 |
| knome | hi | 09:06 |
| wisthler_ | I've a problem with my wifi card | 09:06 |
| wisthler_ | My computer see the wifi network | 09:06 |
| wisthler_ | it can detect the kind of security (wpa in this case) | 09:07 |
| wisthler_ | but it cannot join any network | 09:07 |
| wisthler_ | (secure or not) | 09:07 |
| === wisthler_ is now known as Wisthy | ||
| Wisthy | (sorry, probel with my connection) | 09:09 |
| Ultraputz | is it by chance a dlink router? | 09:10 |
| knome | Wisthy, the new network-manager doesn't allow you to join any wireless networks if you are connected to a wired. | 09:10 |
| Wisthy | I have two pc | 09:10 |
| Wisthy | it's a US Robotics router | 09:11 |
| Ultraputz | current firmware? | 09:11 |
| Wisthy | of the routeur ? I'll search | 09:12 |
| Wisthy | Runtime Code Version: | 09:14 |
| Wisthy | 0.08 (May 5 2006 19:19:46) | 09:14 |
| Wisthy | Boot Code Version: 0.03.00 | 09:14 |
| Wisthy | Hardware Version: 01A | 09:14 |
| knome | ok, fully working xubuntu 8.10 on eeepc (though with old kernel) | 09:14 |
| Ultraputz | you can usually just go to their support page and check the current firmware release | 09:14 |
| Ultraputz | that's always first thing to check :-) | 09:14 |
| Ultraputz | goodnight folks. good luck | 09:16 |
| Wisthy | I'll check ... | 09:16 |
| Wisthy | thanks | 09:16 |
| kthakore | I keep getting "these settings cannot work with your current window manager(unknown)" when I try to open window manager settings | 09:23 |
| kthakore | I did xfwm4 --replace | 09:24 |
| kthakore | after using compiz | 09:24 |
| deus_ | OH GOOD lord | 09:49 |
| deus_ | ive suddenly lost my root priviliges | 09:49 |
| deus_ | my user is not a sudoer | 09:50 |
| deus_ | how could this happen | 09:50 |
| deus_ | ok, no panic | 09:58 |
| deus_ | This makes no sense it says that my user allready is in the admin group | 10:02 |
| ablomen | deus_, is your user a user that was created by anything/anyone other then the installer? | 10:06 |
| deus_ | no | 10:14 |
| `r0ot | Hello | 11:11 |
| `r0ot | i need install wxwidgets from apt.wxwidgets.org so i have only dapper-wx/ & edgy-wx/ & etch-wx/ & feisty-wx/ & gutsy-wx/ & hardy-wx/ but my dis is intrepid, so i want ask what i can install in my system / | 11:16 |
| floating | how can i know in what dev grub is installed ? | 11:25 |
| floating | my grub is messed up somehow, and someone told me to look into grub-install . now i found a topic from ubuntu forum that mentions a command grub-install /dev/xxx | 11:25 |
| ablomen | floating, its talking about the device your bios looks at too boot | 11:26 |
| ablomen | floating, do you have any other os's on that pc? | 11:27 |
| floating | hmm, i wonder if i have to mount it also | 11:27 |
| floating | yeah, im currently on xp, since the xubuntu entries dont work | 11:27 |
| floating | so grub works in that sense, i can boot xp from it | 11:27 |
| floating | i have a live cd to access the commands to fix it i guess | 11:28 |
| floating | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 | 11:28 |
| ablomen | ok, well if it does that, you dont have to run the grub-install command | 11:28 |
| floating | theres some advices but | 11:28 |
| floating | but my grub is not normal mess up | 11:28 |
| ablomen | ok to get it clear, if you boot up your computer, you get the grub menu that lets you choose from windows and xubuntu? | 11:28 |
| floating | yeah | 11:29 |
| ablomen | and if you choose xubuntu, does it say anything? | 11:29 |
| floating | i upgraded to 810 from 804, but grub didnt update new kernel and xubuntu there | 11:29 |
| floating | it says error 17 cannot mount partition or smth | 11:29 |
| floating | then i tried sudo update-grub , it found new kernel but nothing was added to menu.lst | 11:30 |
| deus_ | I cant seem to use the group settings in the gnome-control-panel | 11:30 |
| ablomen | i think its pointing to the wrong device | 11:31 |
| floating | then someone told a command to re-install new kernel i think, and there i chose to choose maintainers menu.lst, which led to this non-working xubuntu entry there | 11:31 |
| floating | in the actual upgrade i kept my menu.lst, and it had only 804 entry | 11:31 |
| sinbox | hi there, problem 1: add-remove application is stuck in a loop, what is the process name so I can kill it from the system monitor, or is that not a good idea? | 11:31 |
| ablomen | floating, ok so it got screwed up after you copied over a different menu.list? | 11:32 |
| floating | yeah, after that i cant boot to it yes | 11:32 |
| floating | but if i load the backed up menu.lst , i can load the old kernel boot entry | 11:33 |
| floating | and that doesnt work really, it is bugging | 11:33 |
| floating | some problems in xfce | 11:33 |
| floating | cuz its 8.10 with old kernel | 11:33 |
| ablomen | ok great then i think i know what your problem is | 11:33 |
| floating | i hope so:) | 11:34 |
| ablomen | in your menu.lst, near the bottom are all the entries that you can choose from right? | 11:34 |
| ablomen | in every entry there should be a line "root (hd*,*)" | 11:35 |
| floating | umm yep, now im on windows, but i have upped them in pastebin few days ago, i can dig them | 11:35 |
| ablomen | oh yeah if you could get them that would help | 11:35 |
| floating | http://pastebin.ca/1249797 | 11:35 |
| floating | umm, that is the grub that i have a backup version, but is not currently in use, that one can boot but with old kernel | 11:36 |
| ablomen | yeah i see :) do you have the other one as well? | 11:36 |
| floating | nope, i can boot to live-cd and look at it though | 11:37 |
| floating | i think | 11:37 |
| floating | ill do that, be back in few minutes or so | 11:37 |
| ablomen | ok | 11:37 |
| homebrewcider | hey there, since upgrading from xubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 my cam doesn't work on Kopete. I can go to the configure section and see it there, but my contacts can't see it, anybody else had this? | 11:39 |
| floating | umm, im struggling a bit. i believe i need to mount the /boot first | 11:43 |
| ablomen | yeah if its on its own partition you need to mount it | 11:44 |
| ablomen | otherwise you need to mount the partitions that has your xubuntu install on it | 11:45 |
| sinbox | hmmm gnome-app insta so that's sorted, now for problem 2: Wireless problem: I got my wireless card to work, it does connect to the router, I can see it on the router, but I can't access any site on the net with it, I've added my ISP DNS servers in the DNS tab of the network settings but still no luck, when doing an ifconfig I get this line: "inet addr:169.254.7.71 Bcast:169.254.255.255" which seems to me wrong as the network is actually a | 11:45 |
| sinbox | 192.168.1.x type any ideas how I can change that? | 11:45 |
| floating | i used fdisk -l to see my drives. there were 2 linux drives. i am able to mount the one which has only files with sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda7 /mnt/root ,but the other linux partition doesnt show any files if i mount it in same manner | 11:48 |
| ablomen | only files as in video etc? | 11:48 |
| ablomen | *documents | 11:48 |
| floating | silly me, sorry. i mounted it over the other ;') | 11:49 |
| ablomen | hehe | 11:49 |
| floating | http://pastebin.ca/1252994 | 11:50 |
| ablomen | ok yeah theres your problem :) | 11:50 |
| ablomen | if you look at line 144 in your old file >> http://pastebin.ca/1249797 and 127 in your new file you see that the new one points to a different harddrive | 11:51 |
| ablomen | so you should change "root (hd0,5)" to "root (hd0,6)" in the new file | 11:52 |
| ablomen | then it should work | 11:52 |
| floating | aa | 11:52 |
| floating | ic ic. how about the linux kernel thing, it still points to the old one | 11:53 |
| floating | Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic | 11:53 |
| ablomen | ok if you do ls /mnt/root/boot you should see the kernels | 11:54 |
| floating | woh, theres only that 24-16 | 11:55 |
| floating | strange that the new should be installed, and in the old pastebin you can see the update-grub it still finds the new | 11:55 |
| floating | i tried to search linux-image in synaptic, and it also only finds 24-16 | 11:58 |
| floating | can i try sudo update-grub from licve cd ? | 11:58 |
| ablomen | ugh i hate the version naming | 12:00 |
| ablomen | 8.10 was intrepid right | 12:00 |
| floating | yeah | 12:00 |
| ablomen | well that should have 2.6.27-7 if im right | 12:01 |
| ablomen | so update-grub wouldnt help | 12:01 |
| ablomen | you first need to install the new kernel | 12:02 |
| ablomen | so that means booting up the old kernel | 12:02 |
| ablomen | it should still work (at least terminal access etc) | 12:02 |
| floating | yeah, i have installed the new kernel twice, and it should be currently installed, but i guess the install didnt go well | 12:04 |
| sinbox | also: network monitor applet does not show the wireless adapter | 12:04 |
| floating | but i go to the old kernel from live cd -> | 12:05 |
| ablomen | floating, well first fix your grub file [ (0,5) to (0,6) ], boot into xubuntu, then check if your /etc/apt/sources.list actually points to interpid, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.27-7-386 or whatever the 64 bit equiviliant is if you run the 64bit version | 12:08 |
| ablomen | then check if it added everything to grub and reboot | 12:09 |
| floating | fixed grub to 0,6 and booted now. last time i installed the new kernel with this command : sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:10 |
| floating | yup, they point to intrepid | 12:11 |
| floating | now installing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic | 12:13 |
| floating | now during the install, it prompts a question about menu.lst, keep the old, or get the maintainers version, i guess i take the maintainers | 12:14 |
| ablomen | ok just make sure to check afterwords if its pointing to 0,5 again | 12:16 |
| floating | yeah, it wasnt, i booted up and got error 17, now on live cd :) .. but positive news... things seem to point to a new kernel now | 12:21 |
| ablomen | ah cool :) | 12:22 |
| ablomen | still weird though, if you have the time, you should write a bug report, about getting the wrong hd as root | 12:24 |
| floating | things work now, and even this one bug that i had during the boot-up of xubuntu has disappeared \o/ when i booted in 8.04, the loading bar stopped, and wouldnt continue before i made a keystroke with keyboard for some reason :) but now it loaded normally weeh | 12:29 |
| floating | big thanks to u | 12:29 |
| ablomen | wooh great news :) | 12:30 |
| juanantonio | Hello. Which is the less ressources consomation system for old systems, Xubuntu or Windows 98 SE? Of couse, I'm not referring to the horrible memory handling of the latter | 12:50 |
| floating | while at it, i thought that i could try fix my other problem, which is not xubuntu related, so i would like to ask if there is a irc channel that is related to this problem :) | 13:09 |
| floating | i get error from x-server and gdk: lkeyholetv:6956): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_get_screen: assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (cmap)' failed ,when i try run this one program | 13:09 |
| ablomen | and what app is that? | 13:10 |
| floating | linux keyhole tv | 13:11 |
| floating | i emailed the author of the program and got following info, but i dont know how to do what he says : | 13:12 |
| floating | http://pastebin.ca/1253249 | 13:12 |
| ablomen | heh havnt got a clue | 13:14 |
| floating | there is no channel called #gdk or #x-server o.o | 13:15 |
| ablomen | that would be #xorg | 13:15 |
| ablomen | but i cant imagine you having 256colors | 13:15 |
| ablomen | you would have noticed that ;) | 13:16 |
| ablomen | and gdk is part of gtk btw | 13:18 |
| floating | yeah.. i think i have many more :) | 13:18 |
| floating | do you know how i can check whether my gdk is old or new | 13:21 |
| floating | and graphics drivers.. i think xubuntu installed some default drivers to my laptops graphic card | 13:23 |
| floating | i dont even know what graphic card i have :o) | 13:25 |
| floating | is it usual to have many options for graphic drivers in linux ? i found out this for my card http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=1862&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go! | 13:35 |
| floating | then at the website for linux drivers for intel, it starts with " Compiling and/or upgrading graphics drivers in Linux is a complex and error-prone task." | 13:36 |
| ablomen | well but you shouldnt have to compile | 13:39 |
| ablomen | what card do you have? (lspci) | 13:40 |
| floating | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04) | 13:40 |
| ablomen | xserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver < dont know if your card is in the i9** series | 13:43 |
| TheSheep | floating: that driver is included in xubuntu alredy | 13:43 |
| floating | this app im trying to run fails because of gdk/x-server problem, and author says that i could try changing graphic card drivers if possible | 13:44 |
| floating | but first i would try check my gdk version if it is old, but cant find out how.. using google | 13:45 |
| TheSheep | apt-cache policy package-name-here | 13:45 |
| floating | i dont know the package name | 13:47 |
| floating | http://pastebin.ca/1253249 heres the things i could try do but.. well, im almost done | 13:48 |
| floating | i must have over 256 colors, so thats not it | 13:48 |
| floating | ablomen: xserver-xorg-video-intel seems to be installed | 13:52 |
| ablomen | yeah it should be | 13:53 |
| ablomen | it might be enabled already too | 13:53 |
| ablomen | could you try grep "Driver" /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 13:54 |
| floating | i get only kbd, mouse and synaptics entries | 13:55 |
| floating | im using dual-screen system, so my resolution is 1680x1050 | 13:57 |
| floating | put another screen next to other with xrandr | 13:57 |
| floating | is it possible that this eats all the colors ? the author says that "or if other application uses a lot of colors" | 13:58 |
| floating | theres 1900x800 as a virtual size actually | 14:01 |
| juanantonio | Hello. Which is the less ressources consomation system for old systems, Xubuntu or Windows 98 SE? Of couse, I'm not referring to the horrible memory handling of the latter | 14:17 |
| MrNaz | i'm trying to use the xfce4-mixer to turn the mic volume up, but every time i raise it above zero, the slider "snaps" back down | 14:40 |
| MrNaz | what's the story ? | 14:40 |
| Shoopuf | MrNaz: That's a pretty common problem, I've seen it in Ubuntu for years... It has to do with the audio software... | 14:46 |
| MrNaz | umm... no shit eh | 14:47 |
| Shoopuf | MrNaz: Mine does that too, but not only the microphone volume... All volume sliders bounce up and down erraticaly from maximum to minimum -- making changing volume a difficult task. | 14:47 |
| MrNaz | any idea how to resolve it ? | 14:47 |
| damien | i'm running xubuntu 8.04 and i'm having some trouble setting up a nice dark theme | 14:52 |
| damien | i'm using Aurora-midnight theme | 14:53 |
| damien | but the title bars are blue and i can't work out how to change that | 14:53 |
| damien | and still keep the nice darkness | 14:53 |
| TheSheep | damien: use a different window manager theme | 14:54 |
| damien | they all bring with them this odd blue colour | 14:56 |
| ablomen | or, if you installed it to your ~/.themes directory, edit the ~/.themes/ThemeName/themerc file | 14:56 |
| damien | they are default themes | 14:56 |
| ablomen | ah | 14:57 |
| ablomen | well you could try finding the src archive and extracting that to your ~/.themes folder then you can edit the name and change what you want to change | 14:57 |
| damien | some window manager themes are more suitable and dont have the crazy blue, ill stick with those for the time being | 14:58 |
| damien | is it "bad" to use the GTK+ theme plugin in Pidgin to manipulate the colours? | 14:59 |
| === dcolish is now known as Agent_Crisis | ||
| dissociative | how can I change the locale setting in xubuntu 8.10? | 15:35 |
| Woo | I have a sh file in my home folder, how can I install it? | 16:23 |
| dcolish | Woo: have you read the script to see what it does? | 16:24 |
| Woo | No | 16:25 |
| dcolish | Did it come from a source you trust? | 16:25 |
| Woo | Yes | 16:25 |
| Woo | http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php | 16:25 |
| dcolish | ok chmod +x <the script> then run sudo ./<thescript> | 16:26 |
| Taza | Well, I found the icon bug. | 16:38 |
| Taza | It used old icons. | 16:38 |
| Woo | run sudo ./boinc_6.2.15_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh gives me command not found | 17:16 |
| Taza | Intrepid Ibex and bt are not working together | 18:18 |
| === dcolish is now known as dcolish_ | ||
| === dcolish_ is now known as dcolish | ||
| ketsueki^ | Hello all! | 18:39 |
| privet_ | what is the default application to connect/browse SAMBA shares with? | 18:39 |
| ketsueki^ | Please tell me, how can I manually add an icon to the "applications" branch of the XFCE menu? | 18:39 |
| privet_ | (except for smbclient itself!) | 18:39 |
| ketsueki^ | I installed an application from .deb package, it works fine and I can run it from the terminal. | 18:40 |
| ketsueki^ | But still there's no icon present to run it automaticaly. | 18:40 |
| dcolish | ketsueki^: you're looking for a launcher http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.0/manuals/xfce4-panel#subpanels | 18:41 |
| dcolish | you should use the xfce4-menueditor | 18:42 |
| ketsueki^ | ok, I'll check it out, thanks | 18:46 |
| Taza | Blech | 18:49 |
| Taza | NetworkManager is double-retarded in 8.10 | 18:49 |
| dcolish | Taza: if you dont like NM, try out wicd. I dont know if it supports ppp scripts, but I like it for general wifi/ether config | 18:51 |
| Taza | "Try out this. It may or may not even try to do what you want to do." | 18:51 |
| Taza | I like NM, it just doesn't do mobile connections even halfway right | 18:51 |
| Taza | I have my phone connected via bluetooth at /dev/rfcomm0 | 18:52 |
| Taza | Does NM even allow adding the device? No. | 18:52 |
| Ultraputz | banshee not opening soma fm since the 8.10 update. any one got any ideas? | 19:34 |
| Ultraputz | similar issues? | 19:34 |
| Ultraputz | good morning dcolish | 19:35 |
| dcolish | Hey Ultraputz | 19:35 |
| romanov_ | **Hello, I'm in xubuntu and I want to share my internet connection with a windows xp desktop, What I Must do ? | 19:40 |
| Ultraputz | rom - get a router | 19:44 |
| dcolish | romanov_: you will have to configure your linux system as a gateway for the windows system. How many nics do you have on the linux box? | 19:47 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> only one nick | 19:49 |
| dcolish | romanov_: sorry i mean nic, network interface card, ethernet/wifi adapters | 19:49 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> I have 1 ADSL modem and two network cards : 1 in my xubuntu computer and 1 in win xp computer | 19:52 |
| dcolish | romanov_: well you're one piece of equipment short. you need another nic in one of those computers or a separate routing device. if the modem can route(which is doubtful) then you'll only need a switch | 19:53 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> the two computers are connected with ordinary wire | 19:54 |
| dcolish | romanov_: to each other? if so with what? it should be a crossover cable | 19:55 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> yes | 19:56 |
| TheSheep | romanov_: google for masquerade | 19:57 |
| Taza | Ultraputz: I reinstalled | 19:57 |
| Taza | Ultraputz: Only problems I had were Bluetooth and having to install a 3rd party kernel for the device drivers | 19:57 |
| Ultraputz | otherwise a-ok ? | 19:58 |
| Taza | Yeah | 19:58 |
| Ultraputz | if anyone wants to take a look at my banshee problem, here's output http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m75e56e0a :-) | 19:58 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> so I nead to have separated connection for the two desktop with a switch from the modem | 19:58 |
| Ultraputz | rock on | 19:58 |
| Taza | NM is still as retarded as ever, so I copied over my /etc/chatscripts and /etc/ppp/peers/ | 19:58 |
| Ultraputz | so it's a happy little box again? | 19:58 |
| Ultraputz | ok | 19:58 |
| Taza | Devices are working. Not returned my software config yet | 19:59 |
| Taza | What's the proper way to remap caps lock to pipe btw? | 19:59 |
| Ultraputz | you might write a script that backs up what you had to mess with ... just in case :-) | 19:59 |
| Ultraputz | hang on | 19:59 |
| Taza | I don't need the caps lock key and pipe is behind a function key making it hard to use | 19:59 |
| dcolish | romanov_: unless your modem can act as a router, no. the linux box can act as a gateway if you can attach the modem to it either with ethernet or usb | 19:59 |
| Ultraputz | i actually have some custom bindings, but i can't remember where i put 'em | 20:00 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> ok so no mean to do this like an windows -> linux connection | 20:00 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> by a software | 20:01 |
| dcolish | romanov_: not sure what is going where but ideally it should be <modem> -> <router/linuxbox> -> windows | 20:01 |
| Taza | Ultraputz: BTW, the solution to The Big Bluetooth Pairing Problem - switch to an earlier kernel *version* (not just revision), run bluetooth-wizard, revert back to the new kernel | 20:02 |
| Ultraputz | how did you figure that out? | 20:02 |
| Taza | By fetching out the info from a dozen threads. Was a pain. | 20:03 |
| Ultraputz | cam | 20:04 |
| Ultraputz | can't find it atm, but i think setxkbmap or something? | 20:04 |
| Ultraputz | xmodmap | 20:05 |
| Ultraputz | that's it | 20:05 |
| romanov_ | <dcolish> ok thank you for these informations ... | 20:05 |
| Ultraputz | i use xmodmap to remap the buttons on my maus | 20:05 |
| Ultraputz | and also to remap the keyboard so it's familiar to an old NeXT user :-) | 20:06 |
| dcolish | romanov_: np, good luck with the routing. You can pick up cheap routers anywhere, but setting up the linux routing should be easy enough | 20:06 |
| Ultraputz | (shift-esc = ~, etc.) | 20:06 |
| Guest93212 | hello? | 20:10 |
| Ultraputz | (everyone stay quiet until Guest93212 has left.) :-) | 20:10 |
| Guest93212 | ha ha | 20:10 |
| Guest93212 | :) | 20:10 |
| Guest93212 | Got a question and don't know who to ask - was told there were some nice people here | 20:11 |
| dcolish | Guest93212: ask away please | 20:12 |
| Ultraputz | nice? no. we just wait for you to explain your problem in detail and they laugh very loudly. :-) | 20:12 |
| Ultraputz | we then | 20:12 |
| Ultraputz | er then | 20:12 |
| Guest93212 | just installed xubuntu but can't get it to recognise the server on my network | 20:12 |
| Ultraputz | which server? | 20:12 |
| Guest93212 | home network - I'm on Wifi which it clearly recognises as I'm talking to you now on that | 20:13 |
| Guest93212 | won't pick up my files on a Windows machine which I'm using as a network server | 20:13 |
| Ultraputz | oh | 20:13 |
| Guest93212 | My ubuntu machine does | 20:14 |
| Guest93212 | Doesn't seem to recognise the network is there except to get on the internet | 20:14 |
| Ultraputz | ok | 20:14 |
| dcolish | Guest93212: can you ping/traceroute the network server? | 20:14 |
| Ultraputz | what windows version? xp/vista? | 20:15 |
| Hikefu | Do you have samba installed? | 20:15 |
| Guest93212 | ok - I'm an ubuntu virgin - talk me through | 20:15 |
| Guest93212 | server runs win XP | 20:15 |
| Hikefu | I'm not sure about getting working on Xubuntu, I use Ubuntu most of the time. But if you can't get it here, there should be people to help in $ubuntu | 20:16 |
| Ultraputz | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba | 20:17 |
| Guest93212 | just checking to see if samba is installed - will synaptic tell me? | 20:17 |
| Ultraputz | that's a nice overview | 20:17 |
| Ultraputz | sort of | 20:17 |
| Hikefu | Yes, it will. | 20:17 |
| Ultraputz | it will tell you whether or not the packages are installed | 20:17 |
| Ultraputz | whether or not they're working / set up is another question :-) | 20:17 |
| Guest93212 | box is not checked - could be that then? | 20:17 |
| Ultraputz | might read the overview first | 20:18 |
| Ultraputz | according to it, that should do it | 20:18 |
| Ultraputz | that's for server though | 20:18 |
| Ultraputz | you may want a samba client | 20:18 |
| Ultraputz | in that case, you use something called smbclient / smbfs | 20:19 |
| Hikefu | from command line, sudo apt-get install samba or just check same and apply the change | 20:19 |
| Guest93212 | installing now... | 20:19 |
| Ultraputz | hike - that's to set up the samba server? | 20:19 |
| Ultraputz | only if you want computer to be a domain controller? | 20:19 |
| Guest93212 | ah | 20:19 |
| Hikefu | Oh | 20:19 |
| Hikefu | Maybe | 20:19 |
| Hikefu | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 | 20:19 |
| Ultraputz | hike - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba | 20:19 |
| Hikefu | this link is for window shares -- you might need to dig a bit to get to something recent. | 20:20 |
| Hikefu | It's for doing it in thunar | 20:20 |
| Ultraputz | (thunar is the file browser window in xubuntu) | 20:21 |
| Hikefu | so Guest93212, it would work similar to Nautilus file manager in Ubuntu, where you can just click on the network icon. | 20:22 |
| Guest93212 | just following - that's what I'm hoping | 20:22 |
| Hikefu | Though on Ubuntu, it's all installed by default, so I'm happy :) | 20:23 |
| Hikefu | I'd check in #ubuntu if you have more problems too. There are a lot of good guys in there. | 20:23 |
| Guest93212 | now I've got Samba according to synaptic there still is nothing to click on for my network | 20:24 |
| Guest93212 | I'll check those links you sent | 20:24 |
| Guest93212 | (see, there really are nice people in here) :-) | 20:25 |
| Guest93212 | Thanks for your help - those links look promising - bye | 20:28 |
| dcolish | have any of you tried xsmbrowser? | 20:29 |
| volo | hi | 20:29 |
| Ultraputz | nope | 20:30 |
| Ultraputz | hey volo | 20:30 |
| Guits_ | I tried to install xubuntu on usbdrv ...cannot get it right | 21:17 |
| Guits_ | is it supposed to be booting into live cd menu | 21:17 |
| Guits_ | what do i do next | 21:21 |
| privet_ | why would "copy&paste" on a xterm not be working? | 21:55 |
| privet_ | I copy on a xterm and trying to paste into firefox | 21:55 |
| crimsun | xterm has different behaviour | 21:56 |
| crimsun | if the selected area scrolls between copying and attempting to paste, the paste will silently fail | 21:56 |
| privet_ | crimsun: no- happens even when it is not scrolling | 21:59 |
| crimsun | hmm, what are you copying from? | 21:59 |
| crimsun | I can't reproduce the behaviour | 22:00 |
| privet_ | crimsun: just text from a logfile running inside a xterm | 22:00 |
| privet_ | hhmmmm | 22:00 |
| privet_ | I am running on 8.1 | 22:00 |
| privet_ | thanks anyway | 22:00 |
| crimsun | what about from external to the logfile? | 22:01 |
| crimsun | I can't reproduce this in any terminal emulator into ff, actually | 22:01 |
| vidd | what is the command to fix grub? | 22:01 |
| privet_ | xterm to xterm works... | 22:03 |
| dcolish | vidd: sudo grub-install <dev> this is a good thread on it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=862235 | 22:06 |
| === juanantonio_ is now known as juanantonio | ||
| juanantonio | Hello, there someone? | 23:59 |
| vidd | hello juanantonio | 23:59 |
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