[00:00] <benbloom> merrill__: I'm looking into it.
[00:03] <benbloom> merrill__: is that a usb? or a pci card?
[00:05] <wallabee> ahh..  i installed a couple of packages and the icon works again
[00:08] <benbloom> well merrill__, I don't know if this helps, but here'
[00:08] <benbloom> s what i found on google http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debian-ubuntu-linux-configure-pinnacle-pctv-tuner.html I have to step away now. wish i could be more help merrill__,
[00:21] <binMonkey> hi, guys.
[00:22] <binMonkey> how can i tell if i'm using alsa for sound?  i'm trying to run a program that uses alsa only.
[00:24] <starenka> hi all
[00:24] <starenka> starenka, the old bugger again, recognize?
[00:24] <starenka> can anyone tell me, where to set partition used for swsusp?
[00:28] <OxDeadC0de> starenka please paste the output from blkid  and cat /etc/fstab to pastebin
[00:28] <dragoon> hey guys
[00:28] <dragoon> i got a problem when i try to put my web cam on its dosen't do anything
[00:28] <Schuenemann> hey, the sound suddenly stopped. Is there anything I could do to restore it, besides rebooting?
[00:28] <Schuenemann> any command to unlock something, maybe
[00:29] <OxDeadC0de> Schuenemann do you use pulseaudio?
[00:29] <Schuenemann> OxDeadC0de, what's that?
[00:29] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: swap is /dev/sda3 - been changing hdds (and they are partitioned different way) and therefore the hibernation doesnt work...
[00:29] <OxDeadC0de> starenka that's not what I asked
[00:29] <OxDeadC0de> Schuenemann never mind
[00:29] <Schuenemann> ...
[00:29] <OxDeadC0de> !pulseaudio
[00:30] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: i know, but in fact you dont need this info... (imo)... ok lemme dump
[00:30] <Schuenemann> like ALSA?
[00:30] <dragoon> someone can help me plz
[00:30] <OxDeadC0de> no, it works in conjunction with alsa, adds another layer - it really kicks butt tho
[00:30] <Schuenemann> I don't think I use  that
[00:31] <Schuenemann> OxDeadC0de, isn't there a command to restart the sound server?
[00:32] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: http://pastebin.com/d6b4e126c
[00:32] <OxDeadC0de> Schuenemann if it's pulseaudio, just run pulseaudio & in a terminal, since it's probably not, run sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[00:32] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: any hint on using blkid ?
[00:32] <OxDeadC0de> starenka and output from blkid? (just type blkid)
[00:32] <OxDeadC0de> into a terminal
[00:32] <starenka> doesnt output anything
[00:32] <Schuenemann> OxDeadC0de, I tried that, it says Error opening PCM device hw 0: Device or resource is busy
[00:33] <starenka> that's why i ask how to use it  OxDead
[00:33] <Schuenemann> failed to load module module-alsa-sink
[00:35] <OxDeadC0de> starenka that's the problem, dunno how to set them someone else here might tho, but your problem put in "IT terms" is: My partitions don't have UUID's, how do I set them? ^^ (you need them for /etc/grub/menu.lst , and fstab, maybe more)
[00:35] <OxDeadC0de> starenka: The hibernate system relies on a UUID to exist for the swap partition, which, obviously, you don't have for some unknown reason
[00:35] <mrg_> 5 seconds after logging in and seeing the desktop, kde freezes and is only fixed if i remove my .kde folder... but then a couple days later it happens again... anyone know what could be causing this or how i could troubleshoot the problem pls?
[00:36] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: been changing hdds so i wrote grub menu and fstab from scratch myself = no UIDs ;) thanx for hints
[00:36] <OxDeadC0de> gl starenka :D
[00:37] <mrg_> where can i read about the structure of the .kde folder please?
[00:40] <binMonkey> can anyone tell how to check if i'm using alsa?  i have no listing for it in settings.
[00:41] <OxDeadC0de> mrg_ ls ~/.kde
[00:43] <mrg_> OxDeadC0de: thnx but i'm already going through the contents, i just have no clue where anything worth fixing/removing is located to try to fix things.  the docs for the kde config files and things of the sort would be great, but can't find em...
[00:44] <cuznt> !alsa | binMonkey
[00:48] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: well i found out how to get to know the uuid of partition, what next? i thought that would be some line i can change in /etc/suspend.conf but i dont have such a file :(
[00:51] <OxDeadC0de> starenka: my fstab looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70746/ , and menu.lst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70747/  I really don't know if more is needed
[00:52] <dragoon> why update is so long to do ?
[00:53] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: yes i got it, but i think the problem is that i still have the old partition set as a place where hibernation data is stored. where are read is set in grubs' menu.lst
[00:54] <starenka> and i dont know where to change it
[00:59] <OxDeadC0de> starenka: Check /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh and /etc/acpi/resume.sh
[00:59] <starenka> thx
[01:01] <starenka> gotcha     DEVICE="/dev/disk/by-uuid/`awk -F= '{print $3}' </etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume`"
[01:01] <starenka> :))
[01:08] <wallabee> how can i change splash screens?? everytime i go to:  system settings--> appearance---> splash screens---> get new splash screens   i can install themes here but when i return to the spash screen menu they aren't listed but going back to get new splash screens it shows chosen splash screens as installed!
[01:09] <wallabee> i have 8.10 by the way
[01:10] <DarkriftX> when using apt to install eggdrop, where do the default config files etc go?
[01:10] <OxDeadC0de> in case anyone is interested, we solved david0287's audio problems with making sure he's a member of the audio group, checking permissions on audio /dev files, apt-get purge alsa-base && apt-get install alsa-base
[01:10] <DarkriftX> i found the binary, but nothign else
[01:11] <OxDeadC0de> wallabee: sounds like a cache issue, do they show up if you close out the system settings program? or if you logout and back in again?
[01:12] <wallabee> OxDeadCOde:  I thought the same so i logged out and back in and still same although it does show the new themes still "installed" under get new splash screens
[01:13] <OxDeadC0de> wallabee: Check launchpad and kde's bugzilla, it may have been reported already
[01:13] <snarkster> any news on kopete getting irc anytime soon?
[01:13] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: you made my day, m8... works like a charm now
[01:13] <starenka> ;)
[01:14] <OxDeadC0de> grats starenka :D
[01:14] <wallabee> OxDeadC0de: how can i check bugzilla?
[01:14] <OxDeadC0de> hmm wallabee: I did it back in 4.1.2 and it worked fine, and just did it again in 4.1.3 and it works for me :/
[01:15] <OxDeadC0de> wallabee: bugs.kde.org and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[01:15] <OxDeadC0de> Dont you hate that answer "Well gee, it works for me.."
[01:16] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: NONO, big thanx to you
[01:16] <OxDeadC0de> glad to be of help starenka :)
[01:16] <wallabee> Hehe.. well it is definately frustrating to say the least
[01:17] <mahi> how do i setup a lamp setup on my new kubuntu real quick? I can't find mysql or apache in my adept either
[01:17] <starenka> nite all
[01:17] <OxDeadC0de> gnight ^^
[01:18] <mahi> anybody running LAMP on a new kubuntu 8.10??
[01:19] <starenka> mahi: sudo tasksel
[01:19] <starenka> select "lamp server"
[01:19] <OxDeadC0de> mahi: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server mysql-client for those two
[01:20] <OxDeadC0de> tasksel is awesome, never seen that before
[01:20] <starenka> OxDeadC0de: don't wanna argue, but the lamp server thing from tasksel is better - you also get phpmyadmin etc etc
[01:20] <mahi> starenka: where do I select this "lamp server" of which you speak?
[01:20] <starenka> type "sudo tasksel" into konsole
[01:20] <starenka> than use arrows and space or enter
[01:21] <starenka> use ur heart, mate ;)
[01:22] <mahi> My heart is now open, thank you
[01:22] <mahi> should I tick most of them, I would like to have mail too
[01:22] <starenka> nice
[01:22] <mahi> tasksel: aptitude failed (100)  :(
[01:23] <starenka> mh
[01:23] <starenka> you sure you run as root?
[01:23] <cuznt> !lamp
[01:23] <wallabee> !mythbuntu
[01:24] <starenka> mahi: you can select the same as in tasksel in synaptic
[01:25] <starenka> mahi: gotta go (2:25am here) - you can try google translate from czech to english http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/Apache%20s%20MySQL%20a%20PHP good luck
[01:25] <mahi> it's installing, I love you!
[01:26] <Eldy> Alguém aí fala pt_BR?
[01:27] <dragoon> how cani put on my webcam whit kopete to windows live messenger ?
[01:27] <Eldy> the webcam is connected?
[01:28] <Eldy> Or better, works? With camorama,, for example?
[01:28] <mahi> starenka: it's installing but hasn't passed 0% yet, is that cause it's fetching the files?
[01:28] <starenka> yep
[01:29] <starenka> should be
[01:29] <Eldy> dragon, I'm talking with you, are u there?
[01:29] <starenka> is it donwloading?
[01:29] <mahi> I can't tell?
[01:29] <starenka> take a screenshot
[01:29] <starenka> ;)
[01:29] <Eldy> hello
[01:30] <starenka> mahi: out for a smoke. brb... stay tuned :)
[01:30] <Agent_bob> people.... they put smoke in their lungs, and let smoke out of electronic parts....
[01:31] <mahi> aha it's cool. It just asked me for my mysql root pass, so all looks good
[01:31] <mahi> do you know if it's hard to install cpanel and phpmyadmin?
[01:31] <Eldy> I don't like kde, but this kde 4 it's very beautyfull
[01:31] <Agent_bob> Eldy what DE do you like ?
[01:32] <Eldy> I use gnome, in ubuntu
[01:32] <Eldy> but, at the moment
[01:32] <dragoon> Eldy:  when i go in kopete all work i see my face on webcam config but when i do send my webcam nothing happen
[01:32] <Eldy> I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 in livecd
[01:33] <Eldy> cause, perhaps, problems in your web connection
[01:34] <binMonkey> hi, guys.
[01:34] <Agent_bob> binMonkey
[01:34] <Eldy> do u have the camorama, cheese ou camstream installing?
[01:34] <dragoon> Eldy:  how can i cure that ?
[01:34] <binMonkey> everytime i run aptitude update it pegs out my cpu.  is this normal?
[01:34] <dragoon> nothing installlike that i just got kubuntu 8.10 kde 4
[01:35] <Eldy> first, answer me, please.
[01:35] <Agent_bob> binMonkey for just a moment while it hashes the databases yes.
[01:35] <dragoon> no program install
[01:35] <Eldy> do you use in livecd too?
[01:35] <dragoon> livecd yes
[01:36] <binMonkey> Agent_bob: mine is pegging for about two minutes.  is that ok?
[01:36] <mahi> anyone using cpanel on kubuntu 8.10??
[01:36] <Eldy> ok
[01:36] <dragoon> because i got bored with the dvd to put alway dvd in the drive
[01:36] <Agent_bob> binMonkey that sounds too long,   unless you are using an 80386
[01:36] <Eldy> install camorama and test his webcam
[01:36] <dragoon> ok
[01:36] <Eldy> sudo apt-get install camorama
[01:36] <Eldy> understand?
[01:36] <dragoon> iim on updatenow and update like to take a years to install
[01:37] <dragoon> yep thanks
[01:37] <Eldy> if works, it's because his webcam is supported by kernel
[01:37] <binMonkey> Agent_bob: lol.  it's a sempron 3000, slow but still not that slow.
[01:37] <dragoon> ok
[01:38] <dragoon> i install kubuntu on my xps 1730
[01:38] <starenka> mahi: still here? any progress?
[01:38] <Agent_bob> my p1 takes about 20 ~ 30 seconds to hash all.   so you should definitely be less time than that.
[01:38] <Eldy> wait a moment, please, i'm going to bath
[01:38] <mahi> yeah man, php 5 just installing, at about 55%
[01:38] <Agent_bob> binMonkey  ^
[01:38] <mahi> you ever use cpanel?
[01:38] <starenka> mahi: for what?
[01:39] <dennister> hey guys, i'm in dependency hell here with a new install, 'sudo apt-get -f install' isn't working, and neither is 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:39] <mahi> administering sites on your server?
[01:39] <Lu> My taskbar is missing and I'm annoyed by the widget, is there a way to restore my taskbar?
[01:39] <dennister> which cache do i need to clear again?
[01:39] <genii-around> mahi: I prefer ISPConfig
[01:39] <binMonkey> it just popped up my update manager and under htop i think there's an update daemon running that's taking all the cpu.
[01:39] <starenka> mahi: no. i use my machine for development...
[01:40] <binMonkey> Agent_bob it just popped up my update manager and under htop i think there's an update daemon running that's taking all the cpu.
[01:40] <dennister> genii-around: hi there :)
[01:40] <mahi> genii-around: does it have a similar setup with gui's etc?
[01:40] <genii-around> Hi dennister
[01:40] <genii-around> mahi: Yes. But there is no package in the repos for it currently
[01:41] <dennister> do u know which cache i'm to clear to get rid of this dependency hell? i'm still in cli, haven't been able to get xorg or kubuntu-desktop isntalled yet
[01:41] <dennister> and there's one hell of a lot of packages that are broken
[01:41] <mahi> starenka: I do too but I want to set up a local mirror of all my sites so want accounts to be similar to my external servers
[01:41] <genii-around> !aptfix
[01:41] <Eldy> sorry, guys, but I get it go now, night for all ;)
[01:41] <dennister> genii-around: ty :) knew i could count on you
[01:41] <genii-around> dennister: Maybe try what the bot suggests above
[01:41] <Agent_bob> dennister maybe,  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/* /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* ;sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade -f
[01:42] <genii-around> dennister: What Agent_bob suggests can't hurt either
[01:42] <Agent_bob> coffee genii-around ?
[01:42] <DarkriftX> anyone here ever isntalled eggdrop from apt?
[01:43]  * Agent_bob buys genii-around a coffee
[01:43] <starenka> mahi: dunno i just set up apache document_root to my path and then use directories for projects.. with sane programming and htacces really no problem
[01:43] <genii-around> Agent_bob: Thanks muchly :)
[01:43] <Agent_bob> DarkriftX poll ?   and yes i have.
[01:43] <starenka> mahi: = i dont use vhosts etc...
[01:43] <DarkriftX> i cant find any of the files except the executable
[01:43] <DarkriftX> where are the modules folder, default conf and stuff?
[01:43] <Lu> My taskbar is missing and I'm annoyed by the widget, is there a way to restore my taskbar?
[01:44] <Agent_bob> DarkriftX  dpkg -L eggdrop | less
[01:44] <DarkriftX> ahh, thx
[01:44] <dennister> genii-around: yes, what the bot suggested didn't work, so Agent_bob's suggestion is next
[01:45] <starenka> mahi: gotta sleep... work 2morrow. cya and gl
[01:45] <Agent_bob> starenka is so le3t
[01:45] <mahi> starenka I usualy run vertrigo on my vista for local stuff so am not too sure what Im doing
[01:45] <mahi> night
[01:45] <Agent_bob> mahi he/she is already gone before i said that.
[01:46] <mahi> true
[01:46] <mahi> 1
[01:46] <Agent_bob> heh.   true is 0  and false is 1    :)))
[01:46] <mahi> lol
[01:47] <Agent_bob> terminal     true :echo $?  ;false ;echo $? # hehhe
[01:49] <Agent_bob> and if anyone copies and pastes that they will notice that i accadently put a colen in place of a simi-colen in the first break.
[01:50] <Agent_bob> dennister any luck ???
[01:50] <dennister> Agent_bob: nope :(
[01:50] <Agent_bob> :(
[01:50] <Agent_bob> what error message ?
[01:51] <dennister> none... i even tried to get list of files in those partial directories (both paths) and got no results
[01:52] <Agent_bob> dennister hmmm have pastebinit installed ?
[01:52] <dennister> Agent_bob: not that I know of
[01:52] <Agent_bob> dpkg -L pastebinit
[01:52] <Agent_bob> ?
[01:53] <dennister> but inope, not installed, and obviously i can't install anything until dependency hell is taken care of...locks removed
[01:54] <szrhawaii> need some help on adept manager
[01:54] <Agent_bob> dennister ok lets see if we can find what is hanging you out to dry.    sudo dpkg --configure -a | less 2>&1
[01:55] <dennister> Agent_bob: a lot of packages, I'm afraid, scrolls by so fast i can't even see them all
[01:55] <szrhawaii> it says database locked-adept manager
[01:55] <Agent_bob> dennister if you know anything about the "less" filter, you know that you can use /string to search forward and ?string to search backwards.     look for "error"
[01:55] <szrhawaii> then i press yes to resolve issue and it closes on me
[01:55] <szrhawaii> how do i fix
[01:56] <szrhawaii> need to get in adept manager
[01:56] <dennister> when I tried to fix probs earlier by descending into dependency hell there were some probs with libraries, and no 'so' parts
[01:56] <dennister> Agent_bob: i'm afraid i know nothing about the 'less' filter
[01:56] <szrhawaii> so can anyone help me
[01:56] <szrhawaii> my package manager is frozen
[01:57] <Agent_bob> it's ok.  just use the dirrection keys. dennister
[01:57] <szrhawaii> i tred rebooting nothing happens it stays the same
[01:57] <szrhawaii> locked out
[01:57] <Agent_bob> !aptcrashfix | szrhawaii
[01:57] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrashfix | szrhawaii
[01:57] <szrhawaii> where do i find that
[01:57] <Agent_bob>                               ^
[01:57] <szrhawaii> in terminal
[01:58] <szrhawaii> opened terminal
[01:58] <szrhawaii> now what do i put
[01:58] <Agent_bob>                               ^
[01:59] <genii-around> Don't put the «
[01:59] <dennister> Agent_bob: all i got from using direction keys was libgphoto2-2 and network-manager, although I know that's holding up just about everything else, too
[01:59] <Agent_bob> dennister no "error" message at all?
[02:00] <szrhawaii> is that in terminal shell or can i find that in the root
[02:00] <szrhawaii> folders
[02:00] <Agent_bob> genii-around can you help szrhawaii,  i'm too short fused today.
[02:00] <dennister> Agent_bob: not that I could descipher or put in here...isn't there a way to simply remove the lock on the package manager so I can reinstall/purge/ etc?
[02:01] <genii-around> szrhawaii: In the program called Konsole, the intention is to type: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:01] <genii-around> szrhawaii: And then to hit enter
[02:01] <szrhawaii> yeah its asking for a password
[02:02] <szrhawaii> i dont know what it is
[02:02] <genii-around> szrhawaii: Good, put in your usual password
[02:02] <genii-around> szrhawaii: And then to hit enter
[02:02] <Agent_bob> dennister without seeing any "error" message i don't know what you are fighting against.  so i can't answer that.   i gave you three commands that "should" help with most broken package deps...
[02:02] <szrhawaii> i tried but it freezes me after the 3rd key
[02:02] <szrhawaii> and tells me wrong password
[02:02] <Agent_bob> dennister and you said it "didn't"  so i need more information,
[02:03] <genii-around> szrhawaii: When you are typing in your password, you will not see any text appearing
[02:03] <Agent_bob> dennister let start with this.   sudo aptitude install -f  # what error does that yeld if any ?
[02:03] <dennister> Agent_bob: and i'd love to give it to you, but don't know how...not with the results (?) i got from using the arrown keys
[02:03] <genii-around> szrhawaii: This is normal.
[02:03] <szrhawaii> ok its on
[02:04] <szrhawaii> it says processing triggers
[02:04] <Agent_bob> dennister oh i didn't mention, to exit the "less" filter use Q
[02:04] <szrhawaii> it says ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[02:04] <szrhawaii> now what do i do
[02:04] <genii-around> szrhawaii: When it comes back to just $         then close the terminal. Your package manager should work afterwards
[02:04] <szrhawaii> ok
[02:05] <szrhawaii> thanks it worked
[02:05] <szrhawaii> hi-five
[02:05] <Agent_bob> thanks genii-around     one at a time is all i can handle today.
[02:05] <genii-around> szrhawaii: You're welcome
[02:05] <dennister> Agent_bob: that's ok, I figured that out :)
[02:05] <genii-around> Agent_bob: Heh, I understand
[02:05] <szrhawaii> oh one more wuestion
[02:05] <szrhawaii> question
[02:06] <szrhawaii> what files should i download for plasmoids or the plasma theme
[02:06] <szrhawaii> any recommendations
[02:07] <dennister> but here's some data...when I typed in 'sudo dpkg --configure libgraphviz4' the result was an error in loading shared libraries" libtdl.so.3: cannot open shared objecty file: no such file or directory
[02:07] <szrhawaii> also does anyone recommend them or do they upload slow or make my comp slow
[02:07] <genii-around> szrhawaii: The default list which comes standard is found here, with some screenshots and descriptions http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasmoids
[02:08] <szrhawaii> my adept manager froze again
[02:08] <ubuntu_> I'm using the liveCD for Kubuntu 8.10 and it looks great, but there seems to be one glitch.  About every 9-10 seconds the entire screen seems to blink as if it's refreshing.  it's very annoying and i was wondering if it is because i'm using the livecd or if this is an issue with 8.10
[02:08] <dennister> Agent_bob: does that help you with more information?
[02:08] <genii-around> szrhawaii: Let it run until finished, even if it apears not to be doing anything
[02:09] <Agent_bob> dennister maybe,    ok.  lets try this from a different angle.    give me a sec.
[02:09] <szrhawaii> its good
[02:09] <dennister> Agent_bob: also, oneof the earliest problem files I saw was libgphoto2-2, and when i type in 'sudo dpkg --cofnigure libgphoto2-2 i get a post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[02:09] <szrhawaii> i just shut it down
[02:10] <szrhawaii> iam gonna restart to reboot the system
[02:10] <genii-around> dennister: This happens when for instance the post install script says "start the app" when it's already running or so
[02:11] <dennister> genii-around: well, i originally saw it while I still had that pc in the other room...now it's behind me and i'm still getting it
[02:11] <dennister> so it couldn't have been already running when I saw it in this room after the shutdown
[02:12] <genii-around> dennister: Try using dpkg-reconfigure   instead of dpkg --configure      if the app already exists (or partially exists)
[02:12] <Sir_Captain> I'm using the liveCD for Kubuntu 8.10 and it looks great, but there seems to be one glitch.  About every 9-10 seconds the entire screen seems to blink as if it's refreshing.  it's very annoying and i was wondering if it is because i'm using the livecd or if this is an issue with 8.10
[02:12] <szrhawaii> do plasmoids take up  a  lot of space
[02:13] <Dr_willis> szrhawaii,  depends on the plasmoid.. but i doubt if they do
[02:13] <dennister> genii-around: ok, tried it with libgphoto2-2, and only error message i got was that it's "broken or not fully installed"....duh, i knew that :)
[02:13] <Dr_willis> !info plasmoid-weather
[02:14] <genii-around> dennister: So remove with purge, then reinstall it
[02:14] <dennister> i tried that, too, before coming into the channel...no joy
[02:15] <Agent_bob> dennister  as root.    apt-get install --reinstall `COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3`
[02:15] <Agent_bob> dennister see if that will run
[02:15] <Agent_bob> walk fly swim or crawl
[02:16] <dennister> genii-around: wait, this time it worked; purged libgphoto2-2, it took quite a bit of other files with it, and now my list of broken packages is smaller :)
[02:16] <Agent_bob> oh,  you are making progress,  i'll wait.
[02:17] <dennister> ok, i'm gonna continue purging, writing down what i'm purging to reinstall them
[02:17] <Agent_bob> dennister also one can use,  dpkg --configure -a --force-all    # but that's pretty heavy handed.
[02:17] <szrhawaii> the thing called kwin-styleserenity is that any good
[02:18] <Agent_bob> szrhawaii emacs is better than vim
[02:18] <szrhawaii> emacs
[02:18] <BluesKaj> looking for a decent record app for transfering vinyl to digital/wav. Audacity and gramofile are unstable on my pc. They lockup and become unresponsive ..dunno why .
[02:18] <Agent_bob> i mean don't start a plasmoid war in here.
[02:19] <szrhawaii> im looking for a decent one
[02:19] <szrhawaii> cause i did that kwin one and it didnt work
[02:19] <Agent_bob> szrhawaii but it's all up to you, not us, as to whether or not you will like something,    try it and see.
[02:19] <tony__> bonsoir
[02:19] <Agent_bob> howdy tony__
[02:20] <szrhawaii> yeah do you recommend a specific file to download off of adept manager
[02:20] <dennister> hurrah!! only 3 purges and lots of packages removed, so I have now been able to install something else, just to make sure lock is removed
[02:20] <tony__> quelqu'un parle francais ?
[02:20] <szrhawaii> im always willing to try different programs
[02:20] <Agent_bob> szrhawaii nope.  and that was the whole point of my last three posts to y.
[02:20] <Agent_bob> you.
[02:20] <BluesKaj> !fr | tony__
[02:20] <Sir_Captain> is anybody able to help with my screen flickering problem?  the hardware is fine as i don't have the problem while booting.
[02:21] <szrhawaii> you know how many come up when i type in emacs
[02:21] <tony__> ok thx
[02:21] <Agent_bob> szrhawaii heh.  emacs is an editor and an operating system and...   but it's not a plasmoid that i know of.
[02:22] <szrhawaii> how do i configure it to work goo
[02:22] <szrhawaii> d
[02:22]  * Agent_bob head-desk
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> The only thing preventing emacs from being a great operating system is the lack of a decent text editor
[02:23] <Agent_bob> dennister all fixed ?
[02:24] <dennister> Agent_bob: nope, not quite...the real culprit seems to be libgphoto2-2...simply will NOT install properly, and lots of toehr apps depend on it
[02:25] <BluesKaj> hey dennister ...running Intrepid ?
[02:25] <dennister> it's the post-installation script returning error code 127 because it can't find ligphoto2_port.so.0
[02:25] <Agent_bob> dennister ok does it yeld an error message /
[02:25] <Agent_bob> ?
[02:25] <Agent_bob> seems i timmed that wrong.
[02:25] <dennister> BluesKaj: not on your life! :) did try it, but I'll wait until they get soem of the bugs out, thank you
[02:26] <dennister> Agent_bob: yes, ur timing is off :)...error message ^^
[02:26] <szrhawaii> oh i got a good question ive been trying to figure out
[02:27] <szrhawaii> how do you make a sphere or cylinder for compiz fusion rather than a square
[02:27] <Agent_bob> dennister does find /lib /usr -iname libgphoto* | grep .so      return anything ?
[02:27] <szrhawaii> is there a specific file i need or something
[02:27] <genii-around> szrhawaii: It doesn't have yet any ability like that
[02:27] <BluesKaj> dennister:  wise move ..too late for me ...i'm stuck with it :(
[02:27] <szrhawaii> but i see other people making spheres on theres
[02:27] <szrhawaii> using the background manipulation
[02:28] <szrhawaii> in mac they have that option
[02:28] <szrhawaii> for tiger
[02:28] <genii-around> szrhawaii: There are some cube addons which may do this. As for where they are or how to install them, no idea
[02:28] <szrhawaii> ok
[02:29] <Dr_willis> As if the cube wasent enough eye candy. :)
[02:29] <Dr_willis> We need a Dodechahadron!
[02:29] <szrhawaii> i know it has to do with the background editing but i tried this one guys instructions but it didnt work i thought maybe i was missing a file or something to do it
[02:29] <dennister> Agent_bob: i'm waiting for results...
[02:30] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis have you never read "the eye is not full of seeing and the ear is not full of hearing"  you can never have "enough" eyecandy
[02:30] <Agent_bob> dennister k    it shouldn't take too long.  but it is searching the hdd
[02:30] <szrhawaii> oh do you guess know the file name for where i can change my openoffice ssplash theme
[02:30] <genii-around> szrhawaii: The channel to ask in would be  #compiz-fusion
[02:30] <szrhawaii> i have the splash i want i forgot the file name
[02:30] <dennister> Agent_bob: yes, 2 results, both in /usr/lib directories...there's libgphoto2.so.2 and libgphoto2.so.2.3.0
[02:31] <szrhawaii> thanks genii
[02:31] <Agent_bob> dennister and that's not the file name that the error message was about ?
[02:32] <dennister> Agent_bob: nope, the error message was about looking for libgphoto2_port,so,0, which we've now confirmed doesn't exist
[02:32] <Agent_bob> dennister ok.   check the package manager for the file name     apt-cache search libgphoto2_port
[02:33] <dennister> Agent_bob: got no results, just my prompt again
[02:34] <Agent_bob> !info libgphoto2_port hardy
[02:34] <Agent_bob> !info libgphoto2-port hardy
[02:34] <tony_93> have a good night
[02:34] <Agent_bob> so why is that being a dependancy....     ;/
[02:35] <genii-around> Weird
[02:35] <dennister> beats me, heheheh
[02:35] <genii-around> Do you have some repo like -proposed enabled?
[02:35] <dennister> genii-around: nope, definitely not
[02:36] <Agent_bob> that is hardy,  right ?
[02:36] <dennister> not even backports, and yes, hardy...8.04.1
[02:36] <genii-around> !info libgphoto2-port0
[02:36] <dennister> brand new installation, which is why i haven't even gotten a gui yet
[02:36] <genii-around> !info libgphoto2-port0 hardy
[02:36] <szrhawaii> but then the other one says 1:07.4
[02:36] <genii-around> Hm
[02:37]  * genii-around sips
[02:37] <Agent_bob> dennister install that   ^
[02:37] <dennister> okie doke
[02:37] <Agent_bob> In component main
[02:38] <Agent_bob> aptitude or apt should have drawn that in,   that looks like a dependancy that is misconfigured in the database    i.e. package bug.
[02:39] <QContinueum> if I enable desktop effects, do i need to restart X for it to take effect?
[02:39] <Agent_bob> you're the QContinueum, don't you know ?
[02:39] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:40] <genii-around> QContinueum: Not usually
[02:40] <Agent_bob> QContinueum as far as i know.  you don't, but it wont hurt to try it.
[02:40] <sjdurfey> how well does dual-monitor support in 8.10 perform and how easy is it to set it up?
[02:40] <QContinueum> Agent_bob: different spelling... they're always getting our mail mixed up
[02:40] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:40] <genii-around> QContinueum: As for spelling I believe it's no e in continuum
[02:40] <genii-around> ;)
[02:41] <QContinueum> genii-around: exactly
[02:41]  * Agent_bob can't spell foo
[02:41]  * genii-around can barely spell bar
[02:41] <Agent_bob> and despiZes spelling/grammer nazis
[02:42] <Shira> How do I upgrade to intrepid?
[02:42] <Shira> I'm on hoary
[02:43] <Agent_bob> !upgrade | Shira you install clean.
[02:43] <Agent_bob> Shira upgrade from hoary is no longer supported.
[02:43] <Agent_bob> hoary is no longer supported.
[02:43] <dennister> Agent_bob: ok, tried installing gphoto2, same issues, then purged, then tried installing libgphoto2-port0, result was that I was told I already had the newest version instaled...
[02:44] <sjdurfey> how well does dual-monitor support in 8.10 perform and how easy is it to set it up?
[02:44] <dragoon> WHAT I NEED TO DO TO INSTALL JAVA IN KDE $
[02:44] <dragoon> oups sorry
[02:44] <dragoon> kde 4 *
[02:44] <Agent_bob> dennister add    --reinstall
[02:44] <Shira> was upgrading from hoary to intrepid EVER supported?
[02:44] <bazhang> Shira, no.
[02:44] <Shira> haha
[02:44] <bazhang> Shira, hoary is long end of life
[02:44] <Agent_bob> Shira upgrading from hoary was supported while hoary was supported.
[02:45] <bazhang> !eol > Shira
[02:45] <Shira> got it
[02:46] <Agent_bob> actually the installer in hoary had a few querks/bugs   but other than that, it was a pretty usable release.
[02:47] <Shira> I'm guessing any further discussion of hoary is uber off-topic now?
[02:47] <Agent_bob> Shira kinda.  but i'm usually OT anyway   ;/
[02:47] <Shira> well, I guess that's sorta good news
[02:48] <Shira> means that I couldn't have "missed" an upgrade window that never existed in the first place
[02:48] <Agent_bob> right.
[02:48] <Shira> I was wondering why "dist-upgrade" never worked...
[02:48] <Shira> for a sec I thought my hoary install was borked because it just...sat there while I.I. was rolling out
[02:48] <Agent_bob> that's why.   it was not implimented in that release
[02:49] <Shira> aha
[02:49] <Shira> well thanks for the info.
[02:49] <Agent_bob> welcome.    and one can dl the ii iso and clean install at any point.
[02:50] <dennister> Agent_bob: still no joy, i'm afraid...even purging libgphoto2-port0 and libgphoto2-2, then installing libgphoto2-port0 works fine, bug same errors pop up when i try to install libgphoto2-2...error message now talks about a '/usr/lib/int-camera list: error while loading shared libraries: libexif.so.12 doesn't exist, apparently
[02:50] <Agent_bob> Q.  what do linux users do?
[02:50] <Agent_bob> A. they install software.
[02:50] <dennister> lol@ Agent_bob
[02:51] <Shira> I'm waiting for the shipit CD
[02:51] <dennister> */usr/lib/print-camera list
[02:51] <Agent_bob> dennister i heard that 10 years ago when i was new to linux...
[02:52] <paulo_> oie alguem ae??
[02:52] <dennister> hehehah...been just over 2 years here...
[02:53] <dennister> this is nuts...i don't even own a friggin camera...but it's holding all of kubuntu, xubuntu, and everything else up
[02:53] <Agent_bob> dennister lets try the reinstall command i posted way up there ^
[02:53] <Agent_bob> i'll repost it.
[02:53] <Shira> Does anyone besides my RL buddies think LVM sucks?
[02:54] <dennister> good :)...was wondering which one
[02:54] <Agent_bob> dennister  as root.    apt-get install --reinstall `COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3`
[02:56] <genii-around> dennister: apt-cache depends libgphoto2-2       shows these as dependencies:  adduser libc6 libexif12 libgphoto2-port0 libjpeg62 libltdl3
[02:57] <genii-around> Agent_bob: Interestingly it shows gphoto2 as both a Conflicts and a Suggests
[02:57] <Agent_bob> genii-around but there are too many odd ball errors comming up.   that has to be a package bug.
[02:58] <genii-around> Agent_bob: I'm thinking similar. Why would it suggest a package which it also says conflicts for example
[02:58] <dennister> Agent_bob: tried your rather-long command and was told apt couldn't find the pagage 'colums''
[02:58] <dennister> *'columns'
[02:58] <genii-around> dennister: put an "n"
[02:58] <Agent_bob> exactly  and why would it remove a dot so file and then depend on it.
[02:59] <dennister> i hyad doulbe-checked my typing in terminal, but not here :)
[02:59] <Agent_bob> dennister backtic not front tic
[02:59] <Dr_willis> this is when theuse of $() comes in handy
[02:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:59] <Agent_bob> case sensitive
[02:59] <genii-around> Yup
[03:00] <Dr_willis> 'wheres the ` key!' :)  (heard asked befor)
[03:00] <Dr_willis> The what? whats a | !! :)
[03:00] <Dr_willis> 'Linux - using all those keys you never knew what they were for!'
[03:00] <genii-around> Hehe
[03:00] <Agent_bob> :)
[03:01] <Dr_willis> 'Anykey? where the Anykey!'
[03:01] <Dr_willis> My Fave = 'im typing in my password but its not showing anything!'
[03:01] <genii-around> dennister: Can you pastebin result of:   apt-cache policy adduser libc6 libexif12 libgphoto2-port0 libjpeg62 libltdl3
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Had to explain that to quite a few people...
[03:01] <dennister> Agent_bob: k, so ichanged allthe 's to backtics, and got same errors i've already received...will try the libexif file
[03:03] <dennister> ok, was able to install pastebinit this time around, so will try
[03:04] <genii-around> dennister: In that case:   apt-cache policy adduser libc6 libexif12 libgphoto2-port0 libjpeg62 libltdl3  | pastebinit
[03:05] <genii-around> Hockey, AFK
[03:07] <szrhawaii> can anyone help me with this
[03:07] <dennister> http://pastebin/f3202204d
[03:07] <szrhawaii> im trying to update my compiz using my repositories
[03:07] <szrhawaii> how do i do that
[03:08] <szrhawaii> i got a website where the links are would i plug them into the third party url link thing
[03:08] <szrhawaii> or is there a easier way
[03:08] <Agent_bob> you need gpm too
[03:08] <szrhawaii> gpm
[03:08] <Agent_bob> dennister that url is borked
[03:08] <szrhawaii> ohh
[03:08] <szrhawaii> wrong person
[03:09] <Agent_bob> !info gpm hardy
[03:09] <Agent_bob> lets you copy and paste from console   &
[03:09] <dragoon> hey guys
[03:09] <genii-around> dennister: "Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted"
[03:09] <dennister> Agent_bob: well that's what terminal gave me as the url for the paste
[03:09] <Shira> I got directiosn for upgrading to intrepid.
[03:10] <Agent_bob> genii-around the url is bogus.   http://pastebin/  <<<
[03:10] <dragoon>  i got a xps 1730 integrate webcam how can i configure it in kubuntu
[03:10] <Agent_bob> dennister if so the package pastebinit is bug'd
[03:10] <dennister> genii-around: ok, try these numbers: f6d2ec4b8
[03:11] <Agent_bob> dennister http://pastebin/  <<< not a domain
[03:11] <dennister> if that doesn't work either the pastebinit package is  buggy
[03:11] <genii-around> Weird. Both those no good
[03:11] <Agent_bob> genii-around dennister    http://pastebin/  <<< not a domain
[03:11] <genii-around> Agent_bob: Yes I caught that first few times :)
[03:12] <dennister> genii-around: Agent_bob: be back in 5 minutes...need to go outside for a cancer stick
[03:12] <genii-around> Agent_bob: However here it redirects to the actual www.pastebin.com
[03:12] <Agent_bob> genii-around but that's not what pastebinit uses is it ?
[03:13] <Agent_bob> genii-around it uses paste.ubuntu.com   no?
[03:13] <genii-around> Agent_bob: Mine uses pastebin.com
[03:13] <genii-around> (by default)
[03:14] <Agent_bob> hmmm interesting.    investigating.
[03:15] <Ashex> is there any way to just, you know, put a folder shortcut on the menu bar?
[03:15] <dragoon>  i got a xps 1730 integrate webcam how can i configure it in kubuntu
[03:15] <dragoon> ???
[03:15] <genii-around> Agent_bob: Her paste is now valid
[03:15] <bluecopper> good evening
[03:15] <genii-around> Agent_bob: http://pastebin.com/f6d2ec4b8
[03:15] <Agent_bob> pastebinit-0.9 does use pastebin.com
[03:15] <Ashex> anyone?
[03:16] <dragoon> hello anyone ?
[03:16] <bluecopper> i have a e-systems 4213 laptop that i installed kubuntu on for a student but the desktop is quite large. i checked the desktop resolution and the highest  is 800x600
[03:16] <bluecopper> i'm assuming that i need aditional drivers but how do i do that?
[03:17] <bluecopper> i dont get any prompt to install restricted drivers
[03:17] <Ashex> ah ha! figured it out
[03:18] <dennister> genii-around: could you take bluecopper's problem on while Agent_bob helps me with this dependency probem?
[03:18] <benbloom> bluecopper: what's your video device?
[03:18] <genii-around> dennister: Someone's on it :)
[03:18] <bluecopper> i'm actually trying to find it
[03:18] <bluecopper> but i cant seem to find any specs online for this laptop
[03:18] <dennister> ok, what about dragoon's problem?
[03:19] <benbloom> bluecopper: $ lspci | grep Video
[03:20] <benbloom> nope dennister, I'm useless
 maybe I should just reinstall, but not with the mini.iso this time if new packages are causing probs
[03:20] <Agent_bob> dennister    COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f-3 | pastebinit
[03:21] <bluecopper> i get no output
[03:23] <benbloom> bluecopper: do lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[03:23] <benbloom> sorry
[03:23] <dennister> Agent_bob: tried what you suggested, but there wasn't a first backtic so now i'm in an editor i can't get out of
[03:23] <bluecopper> SIS 771/671 PCIE
[03:24] <joe-coder> this is probably a complex matter, but is there a way to get all applications to store their settings in a subfolder of my home folder?
[03:24] <Agent_bob> ctrl+D
[03:24] <joe-coder> without changing my home folder itself.
[03:25] <bluecopper> benbloom: rev 10
[03:25] <Agent_bob> dennister i'll rewrite the command i posted earlier, for you.
[03:26] <dennister> Agent_bob: don't bother
[03:26] <dennister> i tried just usin the arrow keys to get the command...didn't work and i can't be more specific right now
[03:27] <Agent_bob> dennister  sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d" " -f3)     # but maybe you can tell what all the chars are with it typed that way.
[03:27] <benbloom> that's the whole line bluecopper?
[03:28] <bluecopper> oh u wanted it all ok hold on
[03:29] <bluecopper> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Sytems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[03:29] <benbloom> bluecopper: can you copy and paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin.com
[03:29] <dennister> Agent_bob: i keep being told that cut needs an argument
[03:30] <Agent_bob> ok.    dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[03:30] <Agent_bob> does that output anything ?
[03:31] <Sir_Captain> i'm not sure what kind of video card i have, is there something i can type in a terminal to find that out?
[03:31] <dennister> ok, new error message: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle
[03:32] <Agent_bob> dennister i'm finished playing with that thing.   use this command at your own descretion.    sudo dpkg --configure --force-all -a
[03:32] <bluecopper> benbloom: i'll be posting it as "student"
[03:32] <dennister> Agent_bob: got lots of results, scrolled by so fast i couldn't catch half of it
[03:32] <Agent_bob> dennister i'm finished playing with that thing.   use this command at your own descretion.    sudo dpkg --configure --force-all -a
[03:32] <Agent_bob> or not at all.
[03:33] <Agent_bob> read what --force  does in   man dpkg   before you run it.
[03:34] <dennister> Agent_bob: already did it, was ready to reinstall from a cdrom instead of this mini.iso anyway...i'm done trying to solve this problem, too...fed up
[03:34] <Agent_bob> then run that and see if it fixes it
[03:34] <dennister> sometimes it's faster to simply reinstall than try to fix installation and dependency hell
[03:35]  * Agent_bob finds that --force-all kinda casts hell into the lake of fire.
[03:35] <student> benbloom: http://pastebin.com/m15d0f7bd
[03:36] <Shentino> Did I say I was upgrading from hoary?
[03:36] <dennister> Agent_bob: well, it didn't fix anything, still having same problems with libgphoto2-2, and all the guis, both gnome and kde, depend on it
[03:36] <Shentino> If so, sorry.  I meant hardy
[03:37] <dennister> Agent_bob: thanks for trying, anyway...at least we did try to rescue the installation
[03:37] <dennister> gave it the old college try...
[03:38] <dragoon> what programe
[03:38] <benbloom> bluecopper: I feel bad. I'm not probably going to be much help and I have to go eat dinner. so I will be a minute. you may want to ask around if anyone can help you in the mean time. if not, I'll be back in a half hour... sorry again :/
[03:38] <dragoon> i can use for webcam ?
[03:38] <student> oh ok then
[03:39] <genii-around> wifi card overheated, on backup now
[03:39] <dennister> now it's almost 11 here and i'm gonna try and get some rest...tried to build this server on the weekend, with a never-used mobo, and it kept freezing before I could get any OS installed, so thought the mobo was defective...solved that problem (cpu was overheating, bad heatsink) and now it's just software...
[03:40] <jerzy_> hola
[03:40] <jerzy_> tengo una duda
[03:40] <jerzy_> acerca de ubuntu
[03:40] <dennister> good night folks :-)
[03:40] <jerzy_> no puedo compilar songbird
[03:41] <jerzy_> i cant install songbird
[03:41] <jerzy_> how can i do it?
[03:41] <bluecopper> can anyone help me with a resolution prob am having with an e-systems 4213 laptop with a SIS 771/671 PCIE video card?
[03:41] <Shentino> Gracias por usar ingles.
[03:41] <Agent_bob> !lts
[03:41] <Agent_bob> !upgrade > Shentino
[03:44] <genii-around> dragoon: The webcam on Dell 1420,1520 and 1730 has vendor:device of 05a9:2640 for webcam which is OmniVision OV2640. This uses module called uvcvideo
[03:44] <genii-around> Bah they left now
[03:44]  * genii-around sips
[03:48] <bilicki> I am having a problem browsing into my hotmail account
[03:48] <bilicki> anyone else?
[03:48] <bilicki> using firefox / konqueror / seamonkey
[03:50] <Dragnslcr> A problem other than it being Hotmail?
[03:50]  * Dragnslcr runs
[03:51] <Shentino> if you want to switch, don't forget to forward from your old email to your new email
[03:51] <bilicki> gmail is my primary email anyway
[03:52] <bilicki> but, still, why can I not access hotmail?
[03:52] <Shentino> I can help you
[03:52] <Shentino> but please take it to PM as it's off topic
[03:52] <Dragnslcr> That's a rather vague description
[03:52] <bluecopper> hey my adept not showing me the available packages
[03:52] <Shentino> unless you're having trouble only on ubuntu instead of everwhere
[03:53] <bilicki> it's only on kubuntu
[03:53] <Dragnslcr> It could be anything from entering the wrong password, to DNS resolution issues, to underpants gnomes
[03:53] <ctw> Hi! Can anybody here tell me how I can set up kgpg to work on two different machines. I generated a keypair on one and uploaded the public key to a key server. Now I want to use that same identity on a different machine (I already loaded and signed a few keys on the 1st machine and ideally would like to transfer all that to the other)
[03:53] <OpenSorce> Just noticed that the "96" Nvidia driver has been released for 8.10. The 173 driver seems to be working fine so far....would using the 96 driver be an upgrade?
[03:53] <bilicki> in windows, it works fine
[03:56] <bilicki> here is a better description: when i try to log into my hotmail account, the browser displays a white page, and times out
[03:56] <Shentino> hmm...
[03:56] <bilicki> konqueror can't even get to the signin page
[03:56] <Shentino> that's more diagnostic :)
[03:56] <Dragnslcr> Sounds like a DNS issue
[03:57] <Shentino> did you try other browsers?
[03:57] <Shentino> and do you have any error messages?
[03:57] <OpenSorce> I had a similar issue in a lesser distro. It cleared up when I disabled ipv6....
[03:57] <Shentino> lesser distro :P
[03:58] <OpenSorce> *cough* suckdriva *cough*
[03:58] <bilicki> i used to be able to get onto the login page with seamonkey, FF and konquror... now I can only get there with FF
[03:58] <bilicki> and, facebook is also not perforing very well
[03:58] <dragoon> why my linux said no webcam installed ?
[03:58] <bilicki> sometimes, it works, sometimes it doesn't
[03:58] <dragoon> how can i install it
[03:59] <genii> dragoon: The webcam on Dell 1420,1520 and 1730 has vendor:device of 05a9:2640 for webcam which is OmniVision OV2640. This uses module called uvcvideo
[03:59] <dragoon> how can i install it
[04:00] <dragoon> :(
[04:00] <genii> dragoon: echo "uvcvideo" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:01] <genii> dragoon: This should make it load each boot
[04:01] <dragoon> ok
[04:01] <dragoon> so i reboot
[04:01] <genii> dragoon: For one-time:     sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[04:01] <bilicki> also, another thing i noticed: when i am upgrading my system, the download speeds are quite low: about 50 kb/s, whereas my internet connection can support at least 300kb/s... this is from ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:01] <genii> dragoon: Rarely need reboot in Linux :)
[04:01] <dragoon> ok
[04:03] <dragoon> so can i try it now ?
[04:03] <genii> dragoon: When module is loaded, you should see after that there is now a device:   /dev/video      or possibly  /dev/video0   or /dev/video1           ... use this in applications when asked what to use for camera
[04:03] <genii> dragoon: Sure
[04:03]  * OpenSorce looks at the 700+ day uptime of his Slack box and says "Reboot? People still do that?!?"
[04:03] <genii> OpenSorce: Exactly
[04:04] <dragoon> youthink that should work in kopete
[04:04] <OpenSorce> Of course, I use IceWM on that box and run most everything from xterm :-P
[04:05] <OpenSorce> Seems like a kde upgrade might need a reboot
[04:05] <dragoon> when i open camorama its said could not connect to video device /dev/vedeo0
[04:07] <dragoon> genii:  not work :(
[04:07] <genii> dragoon: Please put in pastebin result of command:       dmesg | tail
[04:07] <Shentino> Is 1G of ram good enough for intrepid?
[04:08] <OpenSorce> dragoon, /dev/video0 maybe?
[04:08] <ctw> I just found the solution: copying the .gnupg directory
[04:08] <dragoon> genii:  its what he said yes
[04:08] <OpenSorce> Shentino, it's what I have, it works great
[04:08] <dragoon> sorry
[04:08] <dragoon> OpenSorce:  yes
[04:09] <genii> dragoon: Please as I said, put into the pastebin result of:    dmesg |  tail              ...this will tell us what it thinks when the module gets loaded
[04:09] <OpenSorce> dragoon, I've only been half listening.....have you already done "lsusb" to see if the system sees the camera?
[04:10] <dragoon> OpenSorce:  i don't think so
[04:10] <dragoon> OpenSorce:  where is that :
[04:10] <dragoon> and genii pastebin where
[04:11] <OpenSorce> dragoon, nvm....go with what genii is telling you
[04:11] <OpenSorce> genii, sry :-)
[04:11] <dragoon> ok genii what sit is pastebin
[04:11] <genii> !paste | dragoon
[04:11] <dragoon> ok thanks
[04:12] <benbloom> I have an interesting problem. I installed vlc and vlc-nox (I think apt installed it automatically) but there is no vlc-nox in my $PATH I can't seem to run it
[04:13] <genii> benbloom: It should just be vlc   ... the -nox means without the X server
[04:14] <benbloom> i know. can't get it to run without X. works on my laptop (ubuntu/hardy) but not my desktop (kubuntu/hardy)
[04:14] <dragoon> genii:  ok genii webcam the title
[04:16] <genii> dragoon: You need to give the web address like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/abcdefghi
[04:16] <genii> So we can look at it
[04:16] <dragoon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/70791/
[04:17] <genii> dragoon: Reading
[04:18] <genii> Hm
[04:19] <genii> dragoon: Please do:  sudo modprobe -r uvcvideo && sudo modprobe uvcvideo       ...and then again do the pastebin of:  dmesg | tail
[04:20] <joe-coder> can someone help me mount a samba share?
[04:20] <joe-coder> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=Guest //192.168.2.1/home /media/server
[04:20] <joe-coder> that command hangs and never finishes
[04:20] <dragoon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/70793/
[04:21] <genii> dragoon: Reading
[04:21] <Shentino> Is there a good way to list all the "dependency apex"'s?
[04:21] <Shentino> as in...any package that is not needed by another?
[04:22] <Shentino> I've got some "try once" packages and I'd like to find them
[04:26] <dragoon> genii: i think hes left :(
[04:34] <Shentino> Will intrepid have a convenient upgrade function to go to jaunty?
[04:35] <genii> dragoon: Apologies, I am getting disconnected today often
[04:36] <genii> dragoon: The "uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26)."   error seems relevant here. Googling shows me it is an issue of usbaudio and uvcvideo issues. The usbaudio driver needs loading previous to the uvcvideo
[04:36] <genii> Reference: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/linux-uvc-devel/2007-September/002171.html
[04:37] <condon> do I have to install something to install software with 'deb'?
[04:38] <dragoon> its work now
[04:38] <dragoon> i don't know why
[04:38] <genii> dragoon: So, to open the file /etc/modules like:   alt-f2 kdesudo kate /etc/modules                and then to insert:     usbaudio           ..on a line by itself BEFORE uvcvideo
[04:38] <genii> dragoon: Likely it works now because we unloaded and reloaded the uvcvideo
[04:38] <dragoon> you sure
[04:38] <dragoon> so i can stay like that ?
[04:39] <genii> dragoon: The details are in the website I gave, dry reading but informative :)
[04:39] <dragoon> lol thanks
[04:39] <condon> Anyone know how to install w/ deb?
[04:39] <genii> dragoon: If you change nothing right now in /etc/modules     after next boot no cam again
[04:40] <dragoon> genii:  eally
[04:40] <dragoon> so what i need to do
[04:40] <genii> condon: If yoyu have somefile.deb   install it by:      sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb
[04:40] <genii> dragoon: I just told you!
[04:41] <genii> dragoon: So, to open the file /etc/modules like:   alt-f2 kdesudo kate /etc/modules                and then to insert:     usbaudio           ..on a line by itself BEFORE uvcvideo
[04:41] <genii> ^
[04:41] <sd32> !esperanza
[04:41] <condon> deb http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu hardy cairo-dock
[04:41] <condon> what about that?
[04:41] <condon> just get "bash: deb: command not found"
[04:42] <dragoon> am on 8.10
[04:42] <genii> condon: echo "deb http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu hardy cairo-dock" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list                then: sudo apt-get update
[04:42] <dragoon> alt+f2 make a windows i wrote what you said and enter not working
[04:43] <genii> dragoon: From Konsole you can also do:    sudo nano /etc/modules
[04:43] <condon> thanks a lot man
[04:44] <genii> dragoon: Then make the edit as described, put:   usbaudio       BEFORE uvcvideo line. Then  ctrl-x to exit. Put Y to save. Then Enter to confirm same name of /etc/modules
[04:44] <genii> condon: You're welcome
[04:44] <dragoon> so like usbaudio
[04:44] <genii> condon: After that you'll be able to install it
[04:44] <dragoon> uvcvideo
[04:45] <genii> dragoon: Exactly. Each on it's own line, with uvcvideo    being the last one, underneath of usbaudio
[04:45] <genii> Not on same line
[04:45] <dragoon> ok what command for sauvegard
[04:46] <genii> sauvegard?
[04:46] <dragoon> yep to save
[04:47] <genii> Ah, "safeguard" or so en anglais
[04:47] <dragoon> allright
[04:47] <dragoon> sorry for my french word
[04:47] <dragoon> so its supose to be alt + s
[04:47] <dragoon> save and quit right ?
[04:47] <genii> dragoon: To exit:   ctrl-x
[04:48] <genii> dragoon: To save: Y
[04:48] <genii> dragoon: To confirm save name: Enter
[04:48] <dragoon> y is syntaxe
[04:49] <genii> "Y" is just shor for "Yes"
[04:49] <dragoon> o
[04:49] <dragoon> umm
[04:49] <genii> PErhaps if your nano is French then O for "Oui"
[04:49] <genii> Although that is a guess on my part
[04:49] <dragoon> lol
[04:49] <dragoon> yeah
[04:50] <dragoon> allright done
[04:50] <genii> dragoon: Perhaps reboot and see if it survives working after that.
[04:50] <dragoon> ok
[04:50] <dragoon> right now ?
[04:50] <dragoon> i brb
[04:51] <genii> Sure, I'll stary here
[04:51] <genii> *stay
[04:51] <genii> And I'll drink some coffee to cut down on typos....
[04:53]  * genii sips
[04:56] <dragoon> genii:  thanks a lot
[04:56] <dragoon> work
[04:56] <dragoon> he hava a bluetooth on kubuntu ?
[04:56] <genii> dragoon: You'
[04:56] <genii> dragoon: You're welcome     rather :)
[04:56] <dragoon> héhé
[04:57] <dragoon> genii:  do you know if am abble to send like windows my cellular file on blutooth
[04:57] <genii> dragoon: Yes, but right now I am very tired and unable to assist in this
[04:57] <dragoon> ok
[04:57] <dragoon> thanks
[04:58] <dragoon> :)
[04:58] <genii> :)
[05:08] <isaacj87> hey all, I'm going to install kde4-nightly packages. Do I have to remove kde 4.1.3 before doing so?
[05:08] <jomads> Ubuntu 1st timer..
[05:09] <jomads> looks like it's just you an me isaacj87
[05:09] <isaacj87> jomads: haha. how's it going then?
[05:10] <jomads> Not too bad
[05:10] <isaacj87> jomads: do you help with something?
[05:10] <jomads> Installed easily
[05:10] <jomads> just want to set up a password when turning on
[05:10] <jomads> password for another user works
[05:11] <jomads> I mean... when I boot up ubuntu it just logs in and that's not good. anyone can get in
[05:11] <jomads> AI have tried to
[05:11] <jomads> I've tried to get the login screenn to appear, but no luck
[05:11] <isaacj87> jomads: what did you try?
[05:12] <jomads> kde4-nightly packages
[05:12] <jomads> what is that for May I ask?
[05:12] <jomads> Users and Groups
[05:12] <isaacj87> jomads: The devs put together packages KDE 4 trunk for people to try. and they're called ked4-nightly
[05:13] <jomads> I see
[05:13] <jomads> well
[05:13] <jomads> I'm also looking for firestarter
[05:13] <jomads> anyways
[05:13] <jomads> in users and groups
[05:14] <jomads> i clicked on properties
[05:14] <jomads> selected password by hand
[05:14] <isaacj87> jomads: try this for me then. Go into "System Settings" go to the "Advanced" tab and click on "Login Manager"
[05:14] <jomads> ok
[05:15] <jomads> SORRY
[05:16] <jomads> where   is the SYSTEM SETTINGS?
[05:16] <gravity1187> need some help with kontact can't seem to get gpg signing working
[05:18] <gravity1187> need some help with kontact can't seem to get gpg signing working
[05:21] <jomads> ANYONE out there
[05:21] <jomads> where can I find SYSTEM SETTINGS?  TIA
[05:21] <gravity1187> doesn't appear so
[05:29] <ayar> hello
[05:29] <ayar> that's cool! i'm new here...
[05:30] <choma> anyone here who can help with upgrade woes ?
[05:31] <choma> hi
[05:38] <ana> hols
[05:38] <ana> hola
[05:38] <ana> emma
[05:38] <genii> !es | ana
[05:44] <isaacj87> Man, I just tried kde-nightly...KDE 4.2 is going to kick major butt.
[05:44] <isaacj87> :)
[05:44] <emma> isaacj87: oh yeah?
[05:44] <Tm_T> isaacj87: just if you knew... (;)
[05:44] <emma> isaacj87: does that mean that an update will come for the rest of us soonish?
[05:44] <Tm_T> emma: no
[05:44] <emma> oh okay
[05:44] <Tm_T> 4.2 release will be done around new year
[05:45] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Everything is smooth and polished
[05:45] <emma> Oh well that's not soonish but it's pretty soon :)
[05:45] <Tm_T> isaacj87: not as much it will be
[05:45] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Really? Wow
[05:45] <emma> what would be ideal is if someone could figure out a way to use a qt-firefox
[05:45] <isaacj87> emma: Trust me, it'll be worth the wait :)
[05:45] <emma> cool :)
[05:46] <Tm_T> emma: I'm not a fan of Firefox so for me that's not a big deal
[05:46] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Does the kde-nightly packages conflict with any of the 4.1.3 packages?
[05:46] <isaacj87> Tm_T: I read somewhere that I had to remove KDE 4.1 before trying it. I didn't however
[05:46] <Tm_T> isaacj87: no idea, I don't deal with daily stuff
[05:47] <emma> Tm_T: what do you use as your regular browser?
[05:47] <Tm_T> emma: Konqueror
[05:47] <emma> Tm_T: Konqueror just doesn't seem to work on every page.
[05:47] <choma> hi
[05:47] <Tm_T> emma: for me it's fine and those irregular issues I solve with Firefox
[05:48] <isaacj87> emma: True, but it's a lot lighter than firefox...I guess it's just a trade-off :/
[05:48] <Tm_T> emma: some pages work better with Konqueror than Firefox so it's two-way deal
[05:48]  * Tm_T builds her own KDE4, just the way she wants
[05:48] <isaacj87> Tm_T: So you're not running KDE trunk?
[05:48] <Tm_T> isaacj87: I am
[05:49] <emma> Tm_T: it's getting better though from what I can tell.
[05:49] <isaacj87> Tm_T: You just don't follow the nightly builds?
[05:49] <Tm_T> isaacj87: no, I'm ahead of daily builds
[05:49] <emma> Tm_T is probably one of the guys who writes the builds
[05:49] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Oh, how do you keep up to date with the bleeding edge stuff?
[05:50] <Tm_T> isaacj87: by building more than daily (:)
[05:50] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Jeez! How long does it take to build?
[05:50] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Couple hours I imagine?
[05:50] <Tm_T> from 15 minutes to 12 hours, depends
[05:51] <Tm_T> usually it's done fast, and in background so doesn't bother me
[05:51] <Kurapika> hay algun canal en español
[05:51] <Tm_T> !es | Kurapika
[05:53] <isaacj87> emma: In any case, when I tried out the daily builds, Kwin is super smooth. Plasma has these new handles that animate nicely and it's very polished feeling. The systray corrupted icons problem is dealt with quite nicely and everything doesn't feel so clunky.
[05:54] <emma> I have ATi so no problems with icons.
[05:56] <emma> I wish i could get the fglrx to work though. Every time I enable it,  my monitor protests with an error that says something like, 'resolution frequency too high' and the only way to get past that is to go to a tty and dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:57] <joe_> does anyone know where i can get this PyMusique.deb ???
[05:58] <joe_> i have tried alot of places on the net and i can NOT seem to be able to install it onto my computer
[05:58] <isaacj87> joe_: As far as I know, it wouldn't make a difference if you could find it. It's obsolete and doesn't work
[05:58] <joe_> why not?
[05:58] <isaacj87> joe_: I'm guessing you're trying to access the itunes store?
[05:58] <choma> anyone know how I can recover froma blank KDE 4.1 screen ? was working untill i did a suspend and resumeon my laptop. this worked with KDE 3.5.x
[05:59] <joe_> yeah
[05:59] <joe_> ok then if i can't from what u r tell'n me what other program can i use that is alot likee itunes???
[06:00] <isaacj87> joe_: yeah, Apple has made sure the only client that can access their store is itunes. I like to use the Amazon MP3 downloader. It's Linux native and DRM free
[06:00] <isaacj87> joe_: http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html/ref=sv_dmusic_3
[06:00] <anton_> teat
[06:00] <anton_> test
[06:00] <Guest13624> alguien habla español??
[06:00] <isaacj87> es! | Guest13624
[06:00] <emma> Guest13624: #kubuntu-es
[06:00] <isaacj87> !es | Guest13624
[06:00] <joe_> kool thnk ^_^
[06:01] <Guest13624> thanks
[06:01] <emma> de nada
[06:01] <jtelloluna> hola a todos
[06:01] <Guest13624> jajaja
[06:01] <anton_> hii emma
[06:01] <emma> hi
[06:01] <anton_> asl lz
[06:01] <anton_> plz
[06:01] <jtelloluna> tengo una duda ojala  este en el lugar indicado si no agradeceria  me  ubicaran
[06:01] <isaacj87> joe_: Yup, no problem. :) Just download the Ubuntu package. It still works. I use it in Intrepid. Cool stuff!
[06:01] <Guest13624> cual es la duda?
[06:02] <jtelloluna> mira
[06:02] <genii> !es
[06:02] <jtelloluna> acabo de instalar  linux
[06:02] <jtelloluna> okok grax
[06:02] <jtelloluna> y pss tengo la duda  de como abrir
[06:02] <genii> !es > jtelloluna
[06:02] <jtelloluna> archivos .docx en openoffice?
[06:02] <anton_> test
[06:02] <joe_> what is a really good/great program for linux that is alot like itunes???
[06:03] <emma> joe_: frostwire
[06:03] <genii> anton_: This is the Kubuntu support channel. "asl" is not appropriate here
[06:03] <anton_> thx
[06:03] <anton_> sryy
[06:03] <emma> joe_: and it's better than itunes because you don't have to pay for the songs.
[06:03] <anton_> i am a newbie
[06:03] <anton_> thx genii
[06:03] <genii> anton_: No worries :)
[06:04] <anton_> would u be my new friend
[06:04] <anton_> ???
[06:04] <joe_> i don't wanna use fostwire, srry i don't like it i did use it before and it was just trouble for me, srry to say
[06:04] <anton_> genii
[06:04] <emma> joe_: okay. hm.
[06:04] <emma> joe_: what kind of trouble do you have with frostwire?
[06:04] <genii> anton_: Everyone is my friend unless they behave badly
[06:04] <anton_> ok i see
[06:04] <joe_> i don't like limewire and that's what it is
[06:04] <emma> joe_: maybe look around on last.fm, they have a lot of opensource music.
[06:05] <emma> yeah but it's limewire without any spyware or bloat.
[06:05] <choma> anyone know how I can recover froma blank KDE 4.1 screen ? was working untill i did a suspend and resumeon my laptop. this worked with KDE 3.5.x
[06:05] <jtelloluna> regreso
[06:05] <anton_> genii: so what's i should type if wanna ask about the originality?
[06:05] <joe_> ok i'll try that and how can i keep my computer secure enough to where i wouldn't have to worry if someone was or is in my computer???
[06:06] <emma> joe_: your computer is already that secure since you use linux, I think. Don't tell anyone your password.
[06:06] <emma> joe_: you can go to your amarok and in the options enable the last.fm plugin too.
[06:06] <joe_> lol  i do NOT tell anyone my password lol
[06:07] <genii> jtelloluna: Solamente la lengua inglesa aquí satisface. si no /j #ubuntu-es
[06:07] <joe_> got it
[06:07] <emma> well (k)ubuntu disables the root account and that's what hackers are after, and they don't know your user name, so they won't be able to get you. Plus I think kubuntu comes with all outbound ports closed by default.
[06:08] <genii> anton_: This channel is for asking about solutions to problems you may be having with the operating system of Kubuntu. For casual conversation, the better place to talk is the channel of #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:08] <emma> genii: you are a very serious fellow.
[06:08] <genii> emma: I work at it :)
[06:08] <emma> :)
[06:09] <choma> hey genii I am using Kubutu and have an issue - can you help ?
[06:09] <genii> choma: Possibly. Please state the nature of your Kubuntu emergency
[06:12] <genii> choma: ?
[06:12]  * genii sips his coffee
[06:12] <choma> hey genii was on the other screen - deleted files in /var/tmp/kdecache
[06:12] <choma> and now i can view my desktop again :)
[06:12] <genii> choma: That sounds good. So the issue then would be?
[06:13] <choma> suspend and resume used to work with KDE 3.5
[06:13] <genii> Ah.
[06:13] <choma> now i get a blank screen
[06:13] <choma> cant launch any kde app
[06:13] <choma> no menu, only kmix and knotes for some reasons
[06:13] <genii> choma: I'm still on 3.5 so not likely much help here
[06:13] <choma> i just upgraded to 8.10
[06:14] <choma> can i downgrade or do i need to do a resinstall ?
[06:14] <choma> to get kde 3.5 ?
[06:14] <genii> choma: Perhaps search bug reports of Launchpad for the issue
[06:14] <choma> thanks
[06:14] <y0ul053> could have them both installed side by side, so yeah a downgrade is possible
[06:15] <genii> choma: There was a workaround for 3.5 on 8.10 but the links now are broken for it. So for now I'd have to say there is no downgrade option excet reinstall of 8.04 for instance
[06:15] <y0ul053> wouldn't you just install kde-core or whatever package it is for 3.5?  Then just choose which one you'd like on the login screen
[06:16] <genii> choma: You may still have the Hardy kernel available from grub screen to boot into
[06:16] <choma> i do
[06:16] <genii> y0ul053: You might think so. But it doesn't work like this. kde4 now is default and usurps the ~/.kde     and so on
[06:17] <choma> i'll try that
[06:17] <choma> hopefully dist upgrade didnt remove kde 3.5 packages
[06:17] <joe_> once i save a tarz file how do i install it so i can open up the program and stuff???
[06:18] <genii> joe_: First to ask:  did you download a tarball of something that is already available to install from package manager
[06:19] <joe_> i download the last.fm that can connect to my media player and i would like to install it but i don't know how to???
[06:20] <genii> joe_: You should likely examine the page from where you downloaded it for instructions on where it gets expanded to. For the expanding part: tar -xvzf  filename.tar.gz
[06:21] <joe_> last.fm-1.4.2.58240.src.tar.bz2
[06:21] <joe_> is the file name
[06:21] <genii> !info lastfm
[06:22] <y0ul053> speaking of last.fm, check out Ampache
[06:22] <y0ul053> !info ampache
[06:22] <joe_> yes i got it from last.fm
[06:22] <genii> joe_: See above. lastfm is in the repositories and you can use the package manager to install it
[06:23] <joe_> how?
[06:23] <y0ul053> sudo or apt
[06:23] <y0ul053> errr
[06:23] <y0ul053> apt-get
[06:23] <joe_> i'm srry i don't know the command lines yet for ubuntu
[06:23] <genii> joe_: Open Adept, make sure that all repositories are enabled in it. Then use the search part and put in: lastfm
[06:23] <joe_> ive been use'n it now for almost a month and i still don't know them
[06:23] <y0ul053> there's also .... yeah ^^
[06:24] <genii> y0ul053: :)
[06:24] <genii> y0ul053: He'll need somehow universe enabled
[06:24] <y0ul053> ah yeh
[06:24] <joe_> got it, thnx
[06:24] <joe_> if i have any problem's i'll let ya know
[06:24] <joe_> ^)^
[06:24] <joe_> ^_^
[06:24] <genii> joe_: np
[06:25] <joe_> ok it's installing rite now
[06:26] <y0ul053> nice!
[06:26] <joe_> and it's done
[06:26] <genii> joe_: So much simpler, yes?
[06:26] <joe_> now i'm gonna see if it worked or not
[06:26] <joe_> yes!!!
[06:27] <joe_> ^_^
[06:27] <y0ul053> always search adept before trying to install from source, been down that road plenty of times, it sucks ;p
[06:27] <joe_> got it and it's up and running  ^_^
[06:28] <genii> Hmm. Apparently choma could not articulate his problem
[06:28] <y0ul053> guess not
[06:28] <genii> joe_: Congrats :) Always check Adept first for the application you want, if not found there THEN pursue other ways of installing
[06:29] <joe_> ^_^  got it, thnx for the help  ^_^
[06:29] <genii> joe_: Anytime, and enjoy lastfm :)
[06:29] <y0ul053> *sigh* fixing mp3 tags is tedious
[06:30] <joe_> will do but if i want a song from lastfm how do i put it onto my mp3 player???
[06:30] <genii> joe_: Not sure on that
[06:30] <y0ul053> can't download from there.  If you use firefox, go install the greasemonkey addon.  there's a script to add download links to the charts page on userscripts.org
[06:31] <joe_> hm
[06:31] <y0ul053> there're a few other scripts for last.fm floating around there too
[06:31] <joe_> k
[06:32] <genii> I used to use jackd to capture stream from audio input but it's a pain to set up
[06:44] <RandyCalifornia> hello!
[06:44] <RandyCalifornia> I'm Batman :FD
[06:44] <RandyCalifornia> :D
[06:45] <apparle> how to mount the FAT partitions automatically
[06:45] <genii> RandyCalifornia: So you have some issue regarding running Kubuntu on the bat-computer to ask about? ;)
[06:46] <genii> apparle: To make an entry for the drive or partition in the /etc/fstab   with options you like for allow of read/write or so on
[06:49] <apparle> genii: I am unable to understand the option, what should about dmast umask etc.......
[06:50] <genii> apparle: I no longer use any Windows filesystems so rusty on the options you'd likely need. 1 minute
[06:52] <genii> apparle: Likely something like whats in here probably: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442321
[07:07] <Coontact> MY point is that niggers overwhelmingly commit more crimes (especially violent) crimes than any other group.
[07:07] <Coontact> Want proof? I thought you would never ask:
[07:07] <Coontact> WHILE ONLY AROUND 12% OF THE U.S. POPULATION AND
[07:08] <Coontact> OUTNUMBERED BY OTHER RACES BY 9 TO 1:
[07:08] <Coontact> NIGGERS COMMIT BETWEEN 51% AND 60% OF THE MURDERS
[07:08] <Coontact> NIGGERS ARE ARRESTED FOR 57- 61% OF THE ROBBERIES
[07:08] <Coontact> NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 50% OF THE ROBBERIES
[07:14] <RandyCalifornia> hello!
[07:14] <dwidmann> Hi there
[07:27] <piratas> hi vsem
[07:27] <piratas> kto nibud' mojet pomo4? u menya kubuntu i ya ishu soksifikator... )
[07:28] <piratas> ky ky ))
[07:29] <piratas> somebody hear me ?
[07:29] <piratas> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> yeah, wassup man?
[07:30] <piratas> hi, can u help me ?))
[07:31] <piratas> i installed kubuntu, and searching for soft... i need to using socks.....)
[07:31] <piratas> i need it for using socks 5
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> clea
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> clear
[07:35] <goldmetal> iwlist wlan0 scan ; will show me my receive signal level. how to find out my transmit signal level?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> goldmetal: its considered bad netiquette to ask in multiple rooms
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> install an app like wifi-radar
[07:37] <goldmetal> it's a tough question
[07:37] <genii> Not really
[07:39]  * y0ul053 agrees
[07:40] <beberlei> i have a question, i upgraded to the latest kubuntu version (intreprid) and had Mac Style menus in a seperate "panel" on the top in kde3.5
[07:40] <beberlei> now kde4 does not know anything about that
[07:40] <beberlei> and i lost the ability to search trough the "File, Edit..." menu bar of kde programs
[07:41] <beberlei> any way of reverting this?
[07:41] <RandyCalifornia> no
[07:45] <genii> beberlei: As for the Mac Style it does not seem available yet in kde4 but someone may be working on it. Some extensive posts on the subject here http://forum.kde.org/showthread.php?tid=10019
[07:47] <beberlei> what is strange is that kde4 seems to have remembered not to show a menubar on each window, but there is no option (or i dont find it) where to enable menubars in windows again
[07:47] <Waldo_> Woah, KDE 3 has a universal menu bar available?
[07:48] <beberlei> you can enable it in system settings anywhere
[07:48] <beberlei> somewhere
[07:50] <Waldo_> Found it. Super crazy awesome! =o
[07:50] <czarny> jest tu ktoś z Polski?
[07:51] <czarny> kurde nie ma tu nikogo?
[07:51] <genii> !pl
[07:51] <czarny> genii witaj
[07:58] <Waldo_> The universal menu bar isn't as universal as I'd hope =|
[07:59] <genii> "universal" anythings are usually disappointing
[07:59] <Waldo_> It's pretty universal on a Mac. Of course, it's also the only option on a Mac, so it's not surprising...
[08:11] <zhuul> Hello guys, I am looking for network tools which list me applications, traffic and bandwich. Someone know some good tools?
[08:17] <genii> ping netstat whois finger lsof
[08:17] <genii> top as well
[08:18] <zhuul> thank you I will take a look ;)
[08:19] <ltghesp> Hi. I am having trouble with my eth0. I use dhcp and often get no ip.
[08:21] <ltghesp> I just had an IP and then it stopped working (still had an IP in the 10.90 range but could not ping gateway). When I run dhclient eth0 it however requests an IP with an IP in the 192.168 range. any suggestions?
[08:29] <corinth> Is there a way to install the KDE 4.2 dev in Kubunty 8.10?
[08:30] <corinth> *Kubuntu
[08:40] <corinth> How do I get Dolphin to remember window size?
[08:53] <corinth> Is there a way to install the KDE 4.2 dev in Kubuntu 8.10?
[08:54] <reanimation> #ubuntu-in
[08:55] <drempels> Hi, why does installing firefox depend on synaptic package manager?
[08:57] <ncfi1013> how can i get the open gl screensavers to work with nvidia-glx-96 graphics driver for nvidia geforce 6100 graphics card? they have been installed but they are not working.
[09:02] <SkEmO> ok time to sleep kkthxbye!
[09:03] <corinth> drempels: Just a guess: firefox is a gtk application, so it probably depends on the ubunt desktop (basic), and would then defend on synaptic
[09:05] <level1> hi, I get an error when clicknig on a file in the panel... "KDEInit could not launch dolphin"
[09:05] <level1> and dolphin doesn't start
[09:05] <drempels> corinth: right, I'd like firefox but don't really want the whole of gnome too!
[09:05] <drempels> corinth: thanks
[09:06] <corinth> drempels: Really, you won't notice it. It's just the base files. You're not really getting much at all.
[09:06] <drempels> corinth: yeah, i suppose, just didn't want  to confuse the user of this machine with two package manager options
[09:07] <corinth> drempels: You could always just remove it from the menu :P
[09:07] <drempels> corinth: I can always delete it from the menu
[09:07] <drempels> corinth: haha yeah, cheers
[09:07] <drempels> corinth: does flash work with konqueror?
[09:08] <corinth> drempels: Yes, but the html rendering is so perfect it's not forgiving. Sites like digg.com are pretty screwed up.
[09:08] <drempels> corinth: thanks, what is the standard Kubuntu way to install flash?
[09:09] <corinth> Depends on the browser, drempels
[09:09] <drempels> corinth: thanks, what is the standard Kubuntu way to install flash?
[09:10] <drempels> corinth: sorry... thanks
[09:10] <corinth> drempels: I'm not sure. In my experience, the flash plugin is usually there. Could be because of my installing  flash flash for firefox, though
[09:11] <drempels> corinth: ok, cool
[09:14] <corinth> Is there a way to install the KDE 4.2 dev in Kubuntu 8.10?
[09:14] <Tm_T> corinth: yes
[09:14] <Tm_T> corinth: like to build yourself or use readymade packages?
[09:14] <corinth> Tm_T: I mean, without compiling it?
[09:14] <corinth> readymade
[09:14] <Tm_T> then use neon
[09:15] <Tm_T> !neon
[09:15] <corinth> I'm not THAT fluent yet, lol.
[09:15] <corinth> Ooh
[09:15] <corinth> I knew about neon's amarok builds, but not the KDE 4 trunk
[09:15] <corinth> Does it install alongside 4.1.2, or over it?
[09:16] <Tm_T> corinth: no idea
[09:23] <ptl> I want to raise a formal protest.
[09:28] <ncfi1013> how can i get the opengl screensavers to work with nvidia-glx-96 graphics driver for the nvidia geforce 6100 graphics card? they have been installed but they are not working. the graphics driver works. the graphics card works. the opengl screensavers dont work.
[09:35] <ptl> ncfi1013: is acceleration turned on for you?
[09:35] <ncfi1013> what is it and where do i find it?
[09:44] <rlang> i've got an udev related question: I want to create a symlink to a nic (like eth0) instead of renaming it. but the udev rule KERNEL=="eth0" SYSFS{adress}=="00:e0:XX:XX:XX:XX" NAME="eth0" SYMLINK+="alan0" doesn't do the trick
[10:21] <IcyPolecat> hiya - anyone know why the restricted driver manager under intrepid doesn't install the ATI fglrx driver?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:36] <EyesKiller> Hi, I hope somebody of you are java-developer/eclipse-user. I want to install eclipse with 'aptitude install eclipse'. But aptitude want to install gcj too. I want to use sun-java only. :/ How can I do that?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gcj
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> its 48k, id just install it
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> EyesKiller: if its a dependancy then you have to install it
[10:39] <EyesKiller> If it's only 48k then its no problem, but it want to install eclipse-gcj, eclipse-*-gcj and so on. :(
[10:39] <EyesKiller> As I said I already installed sun-java.
[10:39] <scomar> J #kubuntu-devel
[10:40] <EyesKiller> Ok, then I'll try in #kubuntu-devel, thank you all.
[10:41] <stdin> EyesKiller: use "aptitude --without-recommends install ..."
[10:42] <stdin> #kubuntu-devel has nothing to do with eclipse btw
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> stdin: maybe the guys can recommend
[10:43] <EyesKiller> Oh... great. I didn't know about --without-recommends. :) Thank you very much!
[10:43] <EyesKiller> It's much smaller (about 350MB!).
[10:44] <stdin> aptitude always installs recommends by default, and I think apt-get does now too. so --without-recommends is useful
[10:45] <stdin> in fact ^ that is the reason firefox installs some gnome stuff. the packager refuses to accept that the gnome packages are not required for a "full firefox experience"
[10:45] <EyesKiller> stdin: Good to know, since some recommended packages is annoying for me.
[10:47] <EyesKiller> I'll continue working. Thank you a lot!
[10:48] <stdin> np :)
[10:55] <ghostcube> question why isnt the adept update tool working i done two updates now it kills always itself
[10:55] <ghostcube> from 8.04 to 8.10
[10:55] <ghostcube> the end is doing an commandline update
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> you're using adept to upgrade to 8.10? Why not upgrade-manager?
[10:56] <ghostcube> eh sorry i mean the way on kubuntu.org :)
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> or is that what you mean
[10:57] <ghostcube> it starts inside adept so i mentioned it
[10:57] <ghostcube> :)
[10:57] <SlimeyPete> ah, I see
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: i did cli upgrade, went great
[10:58] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: hmmm two times here not :|
[10:58] <IcyPolecat> ok different question - how can I identify my video card model from the command line?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: try sudo apt-get clean first
[10:58] <ghostcube> i get in trouble and i dont know what caused it maybe this could be cause i have running compiz when update was running
[10:58] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: sure
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> IcyPolecat: lspci | grep -i vga
[10:59] <IcyPolecat> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[10:59] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: i did some things on the second machine to avoid the same probs but no luck here heh
[10:59] <ghostcube> i mean the upüdate on cmd works then the upgrade tool begins then dpkg can bring it to the end but what could this be any ideas
[10:59] <IcyPolecat> Now, anyone got any idea how to get dual head working with that card as I can't install the ATI driver (apparently under Intrepid is doesn't support the newer version of Xserver)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[11:00] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: thx will have a look
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: you doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[11:01] <ghostcube> moment pls damn firefox upgrade lol
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> just damn firefox here
[11:03] <ghostcube> ah ActionParsnip i always didi it by the update manager then i tried the way on kubuntu and this isnt working heh update-manager always worked fine i thought maybe the update tool getting by adept makes any script changes or so cause of kde4
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: i just use cli for pretty much everything excpt chat, browse and cd burning
[11:05] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu this isnt working
[11:05] <ghostcube> ^^
[11:06] <ghostcube> thx i will use the mthod of u next time and tell u if it worked fine
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; kdesudo kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: change Prompt=lts to Prompt=normal
[11:07] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: yeah i have this i do this on my server images always i just wanted to give adept a chance lol
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: no need for a gui
[11:08] <ghostcube> :)
[11:09] <badass> any new ports planned for the ps3?
[11:09] <fyrzen> hello! I was wondering if I could get s/o's opinion on this problem i'm having w/ the LiveCD
[11:09] <fyrzen> it won't boot into the graphical environment, it gives me a pink/black screen
[11:12] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ciao qualcuno conosce un programma tipo mouse commander, (registra i click del mouse) per la kubuntu?
[11:13] <Tm_T> it | [ITA]mitticoooo
[11:13] <ghostcube> !it | [ITA]mitticoooo
[11:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> sorry dindn't know
[11:14] <ghostcube> no prob heh
[11:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i try in english
[11:14] <ghostcube> :)
[11:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> someone knows the name of a software that simple register "mouse clicks"?
[11:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> for kubuntu?
[11:16] <ptl> tcha tcha BOOM
[11:20] <[ITA]mitticoooo> someone knows the name of a software that simple register "mouse clicks"? mouse cursor click position
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> [ITA]mitticoooo: xev
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> [ITA]mitticoooo: you'll have to grep and awk like crazy
[11:24] <[ITA]mitticoooo> don't understand last sentence but thx the same
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> [ITA]mitticoooo: http://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/mouse.html
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> [ITA]mitticoooo: some decent python scripts there
[11:42] <ptl> I want to file a complaint.
[11:43] <trait> can anybody help me configuring my wlan rt2860sta in intrepid?!
[11:44] <ptl> did you use knetworkmanager?
[11:44] <ptl> Do you know your settings?
[11:44] <trait> yes
[11:44] <jooke> trying kubuntu...sound works but music doesnt :/
[11:44] <trait> wich settings?
[11:44] <trait> jooke: do you have mp3-support?
[11:44] <ptl> like essid, authentication type (WEP, WPA, WPA2), password and so on
[11:45] <trait> of course :)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> ptl: i know my settings
[11:45] <jooke> dont know, i have opensuse too and everything works on there
[11:46] <ptl> trait: so, did you popup knetworkmanager from the tray, added a new wlan, and tried to connect to it?
[11:46] <trait> how to add?
[11:46] <trait> edit connections, and so on?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> trait: use a wifi manager OR manually edit /etc/network/interfaces (not both)
[11:47] <trait> of course
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> trait: if you use wpa you'll need to install and configure the wap supplicant
[11:47] <jooke> i had to mess with the sound though in suse, just don't know how to mess with the sound in kubuntu
[11:47] <trait> my interfaces:
[11:47] <trait> auto lo
[11:47] <trait> iface lo inet loopback
[11:47] <trait> address 127.0.0.1
[11:47] <trait> netmask 255.0.0.0
[11:48] <trait> jooke: which ubuntu do you use?
[11:48] <jooke> old one
[11:49] <jooke> 6.06
[11:49] <trait> oh
[11:49] <trait> why?
[11:49] <trait> pc too slow?
[11:49] <ptl> trait: Alt-F2, knetworkmanager, right-click on it, add wlan
[11:50] <Tm_T> trait: slowness isn't reason to use old version
[11:50] <jooke> i had to save my computer - didn't boot and windows didn't work and suse didn't either but kubuntu cd did
[11:50] <ptl> /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work in 8.10 anymore as far as I know, only networkmanager/knetwormanager
[11:51] <trait> let me restart..
[11:51] <trait> 2 minutes..
[11:52] <IcyPolecat> hi all, me again. Ok am now totally lost. I'm trying to configure dual head output from an ATI card. I can't use the FGLRX driver as it hangs the machine. I have both screens configured in my Xorg.conf but am still getting now joy. Any ideas Where to look?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ptl: works here. i dont use silly gui apps
[11:54] <trait> so
[11:54] <ptl> trait: did it work?
[11:54] <trait> no
[11:54] <ptl> :(
[11:55] <trait> networkmanager doesn show the wlan
[11:55] <trait> modprobe rt2860sta ?
[11:55] <ptl> I dunno, it should be automatic
[11:55] <trait> hm
[11:56] <mdaparte> ola a todos
[11:56] <trait> maybe i should reinstall it manually
[11:56] <mdaparte> *hello everybody (sorry)
[11:57] <ptl> what do you mean?
[11:58] <ngompolan> hiii
[11:58] <trait> i used the dkms for eeepc
[11:58] <trait> but do not have an eeepc
[11:58] <ngompolan> is there any body wanna be my friend?
[11:58] <trait> and i don't know how the driver is configured
[11:58] <trait> ngompolan: for doing what?
[11:59] <ngompolan> trait: share 'bout linux
[11:59] <trait> by being naked?
[12:00] <ngompolan> trait:want u?
[12:01] <trait> no
[12:01] <ngompolan> trait:no
[12:01] <trait> i only wanted to find out if you want
[12:01] <ngompolan> what's ur email?
[12:02] <trait> trait@naked.com
[12:02] <trait> ptl: how do i restart network without restarting pc?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ptl: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:03] <ngompolan> trait: u're liar
[12:04] <trait> you rumbled me, ngompolan
[12:05] <trait> no wlan found in networkmanager
[12:05] <trait> how to check if the driver is loaded?
[12:06] <trait> iwconfig doesn say anything
[12:06] <trait> but there is something called pan0 which i've never seen before in hardy eg.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> trait: lshw -C network
[12:07] <trait> UNCLAIMED ?!
[12:07] <jooke> waitwait so like...i went looking on the internet...and 6.06 is like reaaaaally old like comparable with some kind of...windows...?
[12:07] <trait> how to claim it?
[12:08] <colin_> who can help with dialupadmin
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> trait: unclaimed == no driver
[12:08] <trait> strange
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> trait: try sudo apt-get install madwifi-tools
[12:08] <trait> ok, done install, ActionParsnip
[12:08] <trait> jooke: what do you mean?
[12:09] <trait> or want? :)
[12:09] <jooke> i should format my kubuntu6?
[12:10] <jooke> i'm gonna format it i think...
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> trait: restart the network again
[12:11] <jooke> well...bye xxx
[12:11] <trait> still unclaimed , ActionParsnip
[12:12] <rajneesh> how can you mount windows partition
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> trait: sudo apt-get install linux-restriced<press tab> ( i cant remember the exact name)
[12:13] <rajneesh> how can you mount windows partition, actionparsnip
[12:13] <trait> still installed, ActionParsnip
[12:14] <trait> rajneesh: fat32 or ntfs?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !mount | rajneesh
[12:15] <trait> maybe modprobe rt2860sta helps, ActionParsnip ?
[12:16] <trait> or restarting? because i think the driver needs to be integrated into the kernel, doesn't it?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> trait: sudo modprobe rt2860sta
[12:17] <trait> worked
[12:17] <trait> ok
[12:17] <trait> now scanning :)
[12:17] <trait> how to auto-modprobe on start?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> trait: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> trait: write its name at the end of that file and press enter at the end of the line
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> trait: save and exit
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> trait: if you run lshw -C network you will find its now claimed ;)
[12:19] <trait> i've got kde, but ok, use nano :)
[12:19] <trait> yes, i find it claimed
[12:20] <trait> and now: how to connect to networkmanager?
[12:20] <trait> what should i write at the end of the file modprobe rt... or only rt... ?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> trait: just the module name
[12:22] <robin0800> What do madwifi-tools do?
[12:22] <trait> ok
[12:22] <trait> now?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> robin0800: it can install drivers for some wifi cards
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> trait: scan for wirless APs
[12:23] <trait> iwlist scan?
[12:23] <trait> ra0       No scan results
[12:23] <robin0800> ActionParsnip: and used how?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> robin0800: it installs modules which can be probed in, if your system needs it the relevant driver will be used
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> trait: try in knetwork manager
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> trait: i think only root can scan
[12:24] <trait> doesn'T work
[12:25] <trait> i think its strange, that the prgramm knetworkmanager is declared as kde3
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> trait: can you pastebin the output of lshw -C network
[12:26] <koperton> hi repository from lauchpad?
[12:27] <trait> http://pastebin.com/m870a64a
[12:27] <trait> ActionParsnip:
[12:27] <villoni> !fr
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> trait: ok try this: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> trait: then reboot
[12:28] <koperton> !repository | koperton
[12:29] <trait> hope to see you in 2 minutes :)
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> trait: you can always rename back
[12:32] <koperton> guys mine friend says kde4 is not usable , he said knetwork doesn't start and problem like that i know there was a lauchpad repository for kde4
[12:32] <koperton> anyone knows where i can get them ?
[12:32] <koperton> it
[12:33] <koperton> i am on kde3 and so i don't know very well the problem
[12:33] <koperton> anyone?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> koperton: orks fine here, i use fluxbox instead of kwinthough
[12:41] <koperton> ActionParsnip: but are you using official repository
[12:41] <koperton> ?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> koperton: its all I use
[12:42] <koperton> ActionParsnip: could  you paste your source.list ?
[12:43] <BadRobot> could someone help me to install Koffice 2 on Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> koperton: http://pastebin.com/f37e3d403
[12:45] <koperton> ActionParsnip: thank y
[12:58] <anibal__> saludos
[13:02] <kushou> hi
[13:03] <kushou> i wanna know how-to open an HD automatically at boot
[13:03] <Dr_willis> define/clarify 'open'
[13:03] <kushou> is it possible ?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> since your use of open is vague.. :)
[13:03] <kushou> sorry for my bad english
[13:04] <kushou> i mean read my music on my HD extern
[13:05] <Dr_willis> You could setup external hard drives/filesystems to be automatically 'mounted'  by using the proper entry in the fstab file.
[13:05] <Dr_willis> Or they can get mounted when you first access them.
[13:05] <kushou> i need to type my password and after with amarok i can read my songs
[13:06] <kushou> hum ok i try something
[13:06] <Dr_willis> Thats because theres no fstab entry for them.
[13:06] <Dr_willis> those are being automounted by  'hal' i think...  as you access them..
[13:08] <kushou> thanks Dr_willis, i reboot
[13:12] <tony_> hello
[13:13] <tony_> what's up ?
[13:14] <Dr_willis> Goofing off.. :)
[13:14] <tony_> i have a problem to use aircrack ... arf
[13:15] <gravity1187> getting some error messages with kmail and pgp signing
[13:15] <jobe> anyone got a wacom tablet working on 8.10?
[13:16] <tony_> if i put airodump-ng --write test wlan0
[13:16] <tony_> i have this message
[13:16] <tony_> ioctl(SIOCSIWMODE) failed: Device or resource busy
[13:16] <tony_> ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211,
[13:16] <tony_> ARPHRD_IEEE80211_FULL or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead.  Make
[13:16] <tony_> sure RFMON is enabled: run 'airmon-ng start wlan0 <#>'
[13:16] <tony_> Sysfs injection support was not found either.
[13:17] <tony_> what can i do to fix it ?
[13:17] <kolla> there.. 3.5.10 on intrepid, works fine, as normal
[13:18] <gravity1187> getting some error messages with kmail and pgp signing
[13:20] <tony_93> ???
[13:21] <tony_93> nobody can help me ?
[13:25] <trait> can anybody look at lshw -C network ( http://pastebin.com/m4274e634 ) and look why knetworkmanager doesn't work? - manager finds ra0 but not the wpa-network
[13:31] <marco_> Waht is the italian ubuntu channel?
[13:31] <bazhang> !it
[13:31] <marco_> How is?
[13:31] <bazhang> tony_93, /j #aircrack
[13:34] <tony_93> ok thx bazhang
[13:35] <romain_> salut
[13:36] <tony_93> salut romain
[13:36] <romain_> lut
[13:36] <romain_> j'ai un probleme de carte craph
[13:37] <romain_> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=268215
[13:37] <bazhang> !fr
[13:41] <kallu> hey guys .. is picard working normally in kubuntu8.10 for you ?
[13:41] <jobe> wacom on 8.10 - ??
[13:42] <jonasbet> hi
[13:42] <jonasbet> how is everyone?
[13:43] <jonasbet> does anyone know how to reinstall an aplicantion
[13:43] <jonasbet> ?
[13:43] <jonasbet> like smplayer?
[13:44] <Dr_willis> Why do you need to?
[13:44] <Dr_willis> the pacakge system has a reinstall option.
[13:44] <Dr_willis> reinstalling an app will NOT NOT NOT reset the users settings... if they are the issue
[13:45] <Dr_willis> Uninstalling with the PURGE option, and reinstalling an app will restore the default settings/files for tha app. at least it should.
[13:45] <fernando_> hello a todos
[13:45] <fernando_> #family_club
[13:46] <jonasbet> how can i uninstall it?
[13:46] <jonasbet> i am so new with ubuntu
[13:47] <Dr_willis> The package manager  is the tool to learn to use.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> !adept
[13:47] <Dr_willis> or use synaptic, or apt-get for the command line packageing tools/method
[13:47] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[13:47] <Dr_willis> they are all frontends to the packging system. :)
[13:48] <jonasbet> packinging system
[13:48] <jonasbet> it sound good
[13:48] <jonasbet> i will try
[13:48] <jonasbet> with synaptic
[13:48] <Dr_willis> If you have synaptic installed.. I perfer synaptic to adept
[13:49] <jonasbet> i select unistall ?
[13:50] <jonasbet> i cant select it
[13:50] <trait> can anybody look at lshw -C network ( http://pastebin.com/m4274e634 ) and look why knetworkmanager doesn't work? - manager finds ra0 but not the wpa-network
[13:51] <Dr_willis> You must run the package manager as the root user.
[13:51] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[13:51] <jonasbet> i did it
[13:51] <jonasbet> ;OP
[13:52] <jonasbet> right mouse bottom
[13:52] <Dr_willis> why are you even 'reinstalling'  the program?
[13:52] <jonasbet> not so difficult
[13:52] <jonasbet> because i have white screen
[13:52] <jonasbet> i do not know why
[13:52] <jonasbet> when i use it all player
[13:52] <jonasbet> make the same mistake until reboot
[13:52] <C0p3rn1c> pff mythtv destroyed my kde :(
[13:53] <C0p3rn1c> mythtv added me to the mythtv user group and now is my kde unresponsive if i login
[13:54] <C0p3rn1c> I just installed kubuntu 8.10 yesterday pff
[13:55] <naschil> hello
[13:56] <naschil> I'm just trying to compile plasmoids and am getting a load of errors about qt libraries eg error: QtCore/QDate : No such file or directory
[13:57] <naschil> does anyone know off the top of their head what I need to install to get the Qt headers
[13:57] <naschil> (there is no qt-dev ) package
[13:58] <Dr_willis> adding a user to a group would not make a system unresponsive...  the mythtv backend running.. might.
[14:01] <C0p3rn1c> Dr_willis: ok I'll stop the backend
[14:03] <Jampiter> Hi
[14:04] <Jampiter> I need a help... how do I add sources to apt-get again? :)
[14:04] <Dr_willis> !repos
[14:04] <C0p3rn1c> Dr_willis: still unresponsive
[14:04] <Dr_willis> C0p3rn1c,  prove its mythtv causing the slow down I guess.. check htop/top output..
[14:05] <Jampiter> Thanks Dr_willis
[14:05] <Dr_willis> Of course  MythTV also installed some other services.  but those shoudent matter much either.
[14:05] <C0p3rn1c> Dr_willis: i checked, none of the processes consume to much, my kde or x just freezes
[14:05] <C0p3rn1c> only my mouse pointer still works
[14:05] <Dr_willis> Sounds like my Normal experience with KDE4 :(
[14:06] <Dr_willis> I would disable all fancy gfx settings/effects and see if it helps.
[14:06] <C0p3rn1c> pff
[14:06] <C0p3rn1c> I think I'll just go back to ubuntu again
[14:08] <Dr_willis> Install Ubuntu-desktop, logout.. go to gnome...
[14:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:09] <C0p3rn1c> lol
[14:09] <C0p3rn1c> or maybe ubuntu ultimate edition :)
[14:09] <C0p3rn1c> 2.0 is ouit
[14:10] <C0p3rn1c> out*
[14:10] <C0p3rn1c> never tried it before but it sounds great lol
[14:10] <Dr_willis> I dont see much use for Ubuntu Ultimate edition
[14:10] <Dr_willis> or a lot of the other variants
[14:11] <C0p3rn1c> they just add some neat stuff
[14:11] <zeb> ciao
[14:11] <Dr_willis> They should have their own repos, and  let you easially add it to the normal *buntus :) (some do this)  no need for their own disrto
[14:11] <Dr_willis> Some of them are sort of crossing the 'legal' boundries that Ubuntu is very very carfull to avoide. :)
[14:12] <zeb> !list
[14:12] <Dr_willis> zeb,  what are you expecting in a list?
[14:14] <glade88> where can I install kde 4.2 (alpha) from? :)
[14:14] <JontheEchidna> !neon
[14:15] <cuzbuntu> can i sudo unmount /media/cdrom1 w/ konsole?
[14:15] <OxDeadC0de_> amarok4 kind of sucks, doesn't add ogg's to the collection list, it plays them fine but won't add to collection
[14:15] <OxDeadC0de_> ;P other than that.. it rules
[14:15] <glade88> JontheEchidna: thank you! :)
[14:16] <trait> can anybody look at lshw -C network ( http://pastebin.com/m4274e634 ) and look why knetworkmanager doesn't work? - manager finds ra0 but not the wpa-network
[14:16] <Dr_willis> cuzbuntu,  i do all the time.
[14:16] <Dr_willis> cuzbuntu,  i also use the 'eject' command :)
[14:17] <cuzbuntu> i fig'd sudo unmount
[14:17] <cuzbuntu> thanks br
[14:18] <Dr_willis> theres no N in umount
[14:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:18] <glade88> JontheEchidna: he might want to change it to an intrepid repo source in http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE and the other link :)
[14:20] <naschil> where can I find the qt headers in ubuntu?
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> !info libqt4-dev
[14:23] <naschil> thx , but I've got that installed
[14:23] <JontheEchidna> well, those are the headers
[14:24] <naschil> im getting QtCore/QDate: No such file or directory when trying to compile a plasmoid
[14:24] <naschil> thanks, though
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> weird
[14:25] <OxDeadC0de_> anyone here use b43 drivers? Have you found a way to get rid of the network "hickups"? i run real time audio over wifi so I notice any performance loss, and with b43 I get pauses in audio every ~30 seconds-2 minutes, doesn't happen with ndiswrapper so i'm sure it's in b43
[14:26] <OxDeadC0de_> also, the network "hickups" i speak of occur as b43 is scaling back the connection speed (it happens a lot for me 15 feet away from my router through 1 paper thin wall and 1 floor)
[14:27] <naschil> I've pasted my build errors to the pastebin
[14:27] <naschil> there are quite a few :)
[14:29] <naschil> try using the ndiswrapper driver OxDeadC0de_
[14:29] <kolla> somone put http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ in topic :P
[14:29] <naschil> instead of the b43 if that works for you
[14:29] <oscc> anyone can verify thunderbird addon page is down?
[14:29] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil I'm using it now, but ndiswrapper steadily maintains a slower connection to my router than b43, b43 just scales back a lot causing hickups
[14:29] <naschil> strange
[14:30] <naschil> I have problems with a broadcom card myself, as it is not shown by lscpi, but I have found the ndiswrapper driver gives better preformance usually
[14:31] <OxDeadC0de_> performance kind of sucks tho with ndis, I can get 500kbps from the same sources that I get 700+ kbps in windows, tho that could be a number of things
[14:31] <naschil> kolla , why do you want kde 3.5?
[14:31] <naschil> do you have 32 bit or 64 bit OxDeadC0de_
[14:32] <OxDeadC0de_> 64 but I'm running 32-bit mode
[14:32] <OxDeadC0de_> ^^
[14:32] <naschil> same here
[14:32] <OxDeadC0de_> maybe when I get more than 4gb of ram to stick in this thing i'll go grab 64-bit lin ;)
[14:33] <OxDeadC0de_> Wb genii!
[14:33] <Dr_willis> ive had bvery good luck so far with 64bit. :) no real issues that i am aware of.
[14:33] <C0p3rn1c> me 2
[14:33] <C0p3rn1c> 64 bit rocks
[14:33] <OxDeadC0de_> I used 64-bit fedora before, had no problems, well, real problems, except with flash player (which has since been resolved) - but I compile lots of software and was sick of maintaining 32-bit versions and 64-bit versions of the same libs
[14:34] <OxDeadC0de_> and sick of all the extra system flags or configure strings I'd have to figure out
[14:35] <naschil> ive used 64bit gentoo, but then I switched back to ubuntu, and i didn't want to download both 32 and 64 bit cds at 20kb/s, so I decided to use 32 it
[14:35] <naschil> OxDeadC0de_, which b43 driver are you using?
[14:36] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil whichever one is installed by jockey
[14:36] <naschil> b43-fwcutter?
[14:36] <OxDeadC0de_> yeah that's the one
[14:36] <naschil> which wireless card?
[14:37] <OxDeadC0de_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[14:37] <kolla> naschil: because it works
[14:37] <naschil> kollo : kde4 works as well
[14:37] <naschil> i meant : kolla: kde4 works as well
[14:37] <kolla> not really
[14:37] <kolla> there are just so many things that dont work, is broken or just not possible with kde4
[14:38] <naschil> i dunno, haven't really used kde3 a lot, but what I like about kde4 is that plasma lets compiz draw seperate wallpapers on each cube side
[14:38] <kolla> the 4.1.3 fixed many things, but there's still heaploads of stuff not working
[14:38] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil I use that too, it's bad ass huh :P
[14:39] <kolla> well, I couldnt care less about the plasmafluff, I want working keybindings, icons on my desktop, configurable panels etc etc
[14:39] <naschil> kde 4.2 will have very configurable panels
[14:40] <kolla> yeah sure, but that's next year
[14:40] <OxDeadC0de_> what u mean, the panels are configurable, there are icons on the desktop, and keybindings work great for me
[14:40] <kolla> also I like to tell konsole how big it shall be
[14:40] <kolla> dont grasp why they removed "size" from settings
[14:41] <OxDeadC0de_> probably a bug appeared in it and they removed it in time for the release
[14:41] <kolla> also the panels in kde4 takes way to much space
[14:41] <OxDeadC0de_> resize them?
[14:41] <kolla> cannot resize them to 24 pixel hights without breaking icons, system tray, clock etc
[14:41] <nitrospectide> i am considering setting up a kubuntu box for a fileserver... can anyone recommend a robust, easy to set up and use backup app that will do scheduled incrementals to an external usb drive? (ie please no command line or apps requiring fidgety setups)
[14:42] <kolla> there's also no way to set the colour of the panels without messing with themes
[14:42] <kolla> whatever the point of that is
[14:43] <kolla> one cannot set gradients/hue etc on the desktop background (even though one can set it for the kdm background)
[14:44] <kolla> (I have scripts that change my desktop hue based on alarm level of our surveillance system)
[14:46] <Gonen> Hey guys,
[14:46] <Gonen> I am using kubuntu version 8.04 and kde 3.5.
[14:46] <Gonen> Yesterday I changed the resolution to 1024 x 768 ,
[14:46] <Gonen> everything was OK , but after I reboot my computer , all the fonts became very small (in the Internet , in pidgin and more)
[14:46] <Gonen> here are some examples.
[14:46] <Gonen> http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/91/35063563yr2.jpg
[14:46] <Gonen> http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1106/81617787ua2.jpg
[14:46] <Gonen> Anyone know what to do?
[14:46] <naschil> OxDeadC0de_  what you said about broadcom drivers seems strange to me, as the ndiswrapper driver seems to have been much faster than the bcm43 one
[14:46] <kolla> and konversation as a kde3 app misbehaved alot under kde4 - colours all wrong, complaining about missing kio-ldap (for addressbook), clicking on urls brought up firefox instead of konq, clicking on url in about window didnt work at all
[14:47] <OxDeadC0de_> well yay amarok4 fixed itself, now adds oggs to the collection, the amarok4-nightly tho crashes quickly after startup.. luckily I got the other version from the other repo wherever that is
[14:47] <naschil> OxDeadC0de_ try starting a thread on ubuntuforums for the driver problem
[14:48] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil: eh I'll just stick with ndiswrapper and try b43 again in about 1 year :P
[14:48] <OxDeadC0de_> !amarok4
[14:48] <kolla> !amarok2
[14:49] <OxDeadC0de_> i love that about linux, if it doesn't work right(tm) now, it will.. eventually.. usually..
[14:50] <kolla> and I can go on.. all icon sets seem broken except for the default one (kde-button becomes an arrow), likewice for mouse themes (swapped corner pointers)
[14:50] <kolla> translation is largely missing
[14:51] <OxDeadC0de_> Gonen that's an awesome firefox theme, your text doesn't look to small for me, but if you want it bigger, try k menu/system settings/appearance/fonts
[14:51] <kolla> norwenglish is funny for a while, but not so long
[14:51] <OxDeadC0de_> wth is norwenglish?
[14:52] <naschil> well, I haven't used kde3 really, kolla, but kde4 seems to working quite well for me
[14:52] <kolla> mixed norwegian and english?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> hola
[14:52] <naschil> I guess that for some people kde4 is better, and for others kde3 works better
[14:53] <BluesKaj> yup, kde4 is not for elcheapo onboard graphics
[14:53] <kolla> or people who actualyl care about functionality
[14:53] <Dr_willis> Im finding kde4 sluggish on my 8800gtxsss
[14:53] <kolla> http://dot.kde.org/1225379191/1225397878/kde41.png  :)
[14:53] <OxDeadC0de_> lol, I care a ton about functionality, and kde4 does everything i need
[14:53] <cezar> .
[14:54] <OxDeadC0de_> and if it doesn't, I don't complain, I open up a text editor and make a new program to do whatever I need it to do
[14:54] <kolla> OxDeadC0de_: really, somehow I find it hard to believe you :)
[14:54] <Dr_willis> Hmmm.  of course you do.. it does what you need.. thus it has functionality for you...
[14:54] <Dr_willis> kde4 dosent work how 'i' like to work. :) and ive had other little issues with it. so im using gnome for now
[14:54] <kolla> Dr_willis: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/  :)
[14:55] <kolla> in case you want to mess up your intrepid
[14:55] <JontheEchidna> actually el cheapo graphics cards work better than the hunky ones in some cases
[14:55] <OxDeadC0de_> kolla: I run 3 different n64 emulators in wine with dx9, vlc for dvd's, vim in yakuake for text editing, eclipse with java for IDE, openoffice for office crap, compiz for eye candy, amarok for music over pulseaudio, what more do I need?
[14:55] <JontheEchidna> Before nvidia fixed their drivers I was getting better performance than a GeForce 8 with my Geforce 4
[14:56] <kolla> OxDeadC0de_: looks like you dont need a desktop at all :)
[14:56] <OxDeadC0de_> jontheEchinda don't you love those kinds of "fixes"
[14:56] <scr1bbles> can i apt-get the newest openoffice?
[14:56] <JontheEchidna> I don't really care, since I don't have a GeForce 8 :P
[14:57] <OxDeadC0de_> kolla really i don't, but just because I can I use kde4 with the lancelot menu with the favorites on my desktop background, a folder view on my background, cpu usage monitor, cpu frequency scaler, digital clock, systray, the recent devices applet, the task manager, and cairo-dock for sensor information applets on the compiz widget layer
[14:57] <kolla> I need a desktop that allows me to organize my files the way I want, that I can configure to suit my workflow, that behaves consistant and rather intuitive
[14:57] <Gonen> ﻿OxDeadC0de_ : I put the all the fonts in ﻿k menu/system settings/appearance/fonts on 16.
[14:57] <Gonen> but only the computer fonts changed (the fonts of the title bars , etc) the fonts in the programs are still very small..
[14:59] <Dr_willis> I got a Mixed Gnome + kde4 system here.. and im finding odd... issues with gnome and kde4 both sort of conflicting/shareing settings in ways i dont want. :)
[14:59] <OxDeadC0de_> dr_willis the only problem with that is having both qt and gtk libraries running at the same time, mucho overhead
[14:59] <OxDeadC0de_> otherwise it's really nice to use them both
[15:00] <OxDeadC0de_> I used the gnome panel in kde4 when intrepid first came out, to get back a couple applets I missed (sensor info and cpu frequency scaling mainly)
[15:01] <OxDeadC0de_> but it was annoying that I couldn't make the gnome panel autohide (I don't mean normal autohide, but rather stay closed with the arrow buttons on an edge corner of the screen)
[15:02] <Dr_willis> OxDeadC0de_,   never nioticed that.. :) try setting the default file manager under kde4 to be konqueror,,,, then log into gnome.. the gnome places menu - will now launch Konqueror.... I set it to use nautilus (or rox-filer) and then back to kde.. and KDE would then launch  nautilus, or rox-filer, or whatever i set in gnome....
[15:03] <Dr_willis> also noticed kde and gnome auto-starting stuff that was set to run  in EITHER desktop.. i got 2 network managers going, gnome-do  under kde running,  and so forth..
[15:03] <oldeone> in kubuntu8.10 how can i edit the animations of windows
[15:03] <Jampiter> Hi, I have a problem with Kubuntu and KDE4
[15:03] <OxDeadC0de_> dr_willis lol, sounds fun, I love it when things share settings sure, but sharing all settings sometimes just isn't right
[15:03] <kolla> what's really annoying with kubuntu though is that ~/.kde is used, instead of ~/.kde4
[15:03] <OxDeadC0de_> dr_willis I can help you fix that network manager one
[15:04] <JontheEchidna> oldeone: System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop effects
[15:04] <Tm_T> kolla: you can control that by yourself, I'm sure
[15:04] <Dr_willis> I  was exploring the kde autostart stuff. :)  i think i have it disabled..
[15:04] <Dr_willis>  but kde is still trying to run gdesklets
[15:04] <kolla> this makes it completely impossible to have ~ on fileserver and move between kde3 and kde4 machines
[15:04] <OxDeadC0de_> dr_willis you didn't :P, open up /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop in whatever text editor with sudo, add the line:  OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;
[15:04] <kolla> Tm_T: you're sure?
[15:04] <Jampiter> I just installed KDE4, and now on the login screen (the default Kubuntu one) I can select it from the menu. It goes through it's loading screen, but the blue K does not appear but instead the screen goes black for a few moments before dumping me back on the login screen. What's going on and how can I remedy this?
[15:04] <Tm_T> kolla: set your KDE4 to use different home, I'm sure
[15:05] <kolla> right, and that is done how?
[15:05] <Tm_T> cannot remember exactly
[15:05] <kolla> but you're sure
[15:05] <kolla> how usefull
[15:05] <Tm_T> it can be done, yes
[15:05] <OxDeadC0de_> dr_willis you may be able to solve the gdesklets problem the same way, add a line to a file in /etc/xdg/autostart ^^
[15:05] <oldeone> jontheEchidna: tq
[15:05] <Tm_T> how, is not right in my mind
[15:06] <Tm_T> and I afraid I don't have time to find out, kolla, sorry
[15:06] <kolla> you need to edit the startkde script
[15:06] <oldeone> went there previously but didnt notice the advanced tab
[15:06] <Tm_T> kolla: that's one way
[15:06] <Dr_willis> I did find a 'tweak ubuntu'  tool that has some autostart settings also. :) i wonder if its doing somthing similer.. on a per-user basis
[15:07] <kolla> seeems one can set KDEHOME variable
[15:07] <kolla> at least on kde-3.5.10
[15:07] <Tm_T> kolla: similar is used in KDE4
[15:08] <OxDeadC0de_> dr_willis no idea, but I know you can have a ~/.xsessionrc file to autolaunch stuff with x on a  per user basis
[15:08] <Tm_T> kolla: if it's exactly same, thats then nogo
[15:08] <OxDeadC0de_> :%s/x/xorg
[15:08] <Dr_willis> OxDeadC0de_,  been doing that for ages. :) heh heh
[15:08] <Dr_willis> old-skool
[15:08] <kolla> so the trick is to sneak in KDEHOME=${HOME}/.kde4 somewhere on all intrepids
[15:09] <OxDeadC0de_> mad old-skool ;), I consider someone who even knows about that file pretty pro :P
[15:09] <Tm_T> kolla: perhaps
[15:09] <Dr_willis> I thouhg it was just .Xsession  or .xinitrc :)
[15:09] <Dr_willis> i dont recall a .xsessionrc
[15:09] <OxDeadC0de_> I remember the day I used to launch window maker from it, and a couple other programs.. ok you're right, it's been years since I used either tho
[15:09] <Jampiter> Can Anyone help?
[15:09]  * Dr_willis   points out the 'touch .hushlogin' tip to everyone.....
[15:10] <OxDeadC0de_> but who doesn't like the welcome  banner?
[15:10] <Dr_willis> Windowmaker is still very nioce in ways.. but ive had issues with it under the last few releases.. it would resize the warf icons down to be like 16x16 size.. not sure what happened.
[15:11] <Jampiter> Please?
[15:11] <Dr_willis> Silly 'Mint-Linux' even has a "fortune' in there.. and a customized gui tweaker tool to 'disable fortune Y/N (not reccomdnede)' tool... :)
[15:11] <OxDeadC0de_> I used it first, back in 98 on old slackware 3.5, then switched to blackbox for years, then gnome once I got a faster computer, and now kde within the past couple months ;)
[15:11] <Dr_willis> Jampiter,   did you ask a question?
[15:11] <Jampiter> Yes
[15:11]  * Dr_willis missed it if you did
[15:11] <Jampiter> I just installed KDE4, and now on the login screen (the default Kubuntu one) I can select it from the menu. It goes through it's loading screen, but the blue K does not appear but instead the screen goes black for a few moments before dumping me back on the login screen. What's going on and how can I remedy this?
[15:11] <Dr_willis> or sles i dident know the answer the fiorst time. :)
[15:12] <OxDeadC0de_> jampiter: First check to make sure you have free space, login to a terminal (control+alt+f1), df -h
[15:12] <Dr_willis> You are on Hardy? and just installed  kde4 on it?
[15:12] <Jampiter> Yep
[15:12] <OxDeadC0de_> jampiter second, if you have space, do sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[15:12] <Jampiter> What does that do?
[15:12] <Dr_willis> removes a X lock type file that may be messing things up
[15:13] <Jampiter> Ok, i'll try that :)
[15:13] <OxDeadC0de_> once a day this same question pops up
[15:14] <Jampiter> So it's a known bug?
[15:15] <OxDeadC0de_> dunno if anyone's made a bug report yet but I've seen it a couple times already, two were upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, and you're 8.04 now, so that's a bit different.. one turned out to be a stale Xauthority with bad permissions on it, the other was the guy was completely out of hd space
[15:15] <Dr_willis> Ive had similer issues ages ago with ATI fglrx driver.
[15:15] <Jampiter> Oh! I've booted it up and it's now got the KDE4 logon screen
[15:16] <Jampiter> Oh YES! It works! Thanks guys!
[15:16] <OxDeadC0de_> np glad it works ^^
[15:16] <Tm_T> hi jono
[15:18] <OxDeadC0de_> I think someone ought to make a lil program that reads the output of df -h and tells the user when they're out of hd space at xorg boot - one of the first things that should run, then if they're out of space pause xorg loading and display an error message
[15:18] <OxDeadC0de_> er just df not df -h
[15:19] <oldeone> whats the square box with the word desktop for on Kubuntu8.10?
[15:19] <OxDeadC0de_> oldeone: my guess: Virtual desktop switcher?
[15:20] <oldeone> no, it is a large transparent square top left of screen
[15:20] <oldeone> i cant drag or move it
[15:21] <oldeone> doesnt do anything
[15:21] <OxDeadC0de_> oldeone: Ohh, that's a folderview, it's your ~/home/Desktop folder
[15:21] <OxDeadC0de_> right click on the desktop, unlock widgets, then you can move it around
[15:22] <OxDeadC0de_> :%s/~\/home\/Desktop/~\/Desktop
[15:22] <oldeone> gawd! u mean i can place files outside of the view?
[15:23] <Kovert> hardware drivers gui clicking activate does nothing? 8.10
[15:23] <oldeone> ya!
[15:23] <OxDeadC0de_> no I mean you can make desktop icons and put them inside the view, make the view bigger or smaller, move it around, no icons on the actual desktop tho
[15:23] <OxDeadC0de_> it's the basic replacement for the "desktop icon" age
[15:24] <naschil> its much more useful
[15:24] <kolla> ~/home/Desktop?
[15:24] <kolla> you mean ~/Desktop?
[15:24] <naschil> as in folderview, you can have multiple folders opened in the desktop
[15:24] <kolla> oh yes
[15:24] <kolla> sorry
[15:25] <OxDeadC0de_> I already did :%s/~\/home\/Desktop/~\/Desktop ;)
[15:25] <naschil> %s ?
[15:25] <kolla> % is somewhat too much though
[15:25] <OxDeadC0de_> :%s/from/to - substitute command in vim
[15:25] <kolla> no need to change all occurance all throughout the channel
[15:26] <naschil> ok
[15:26] <kolla> occurances
[15:26] <OxDeadC0de_> lmao
[15:27] <Kovert> can you activate the hardware drivers withwith out using the gui?
[15:27] <karan> how do you extraxt a plugin from a .zar type of file
[15:27] <kolla> personally I dont see the point in the folderview stuff, I much rather want to set up areas on the actual desktop for where to put the different types of icons
[15:28] <kolla> and get rid of the silly grid stuff
[15:28] <oldeone> virtual desktop is a great idea! it can also filter files!
[15:28] <OxDeadC0de_> kolla: Try lancelot menu, you can put parts of it on the desktop
[15:29] <oldeone> anyone knows what the plasma dashboard is for?
[15:29] <karan> how do you extract a plugin from a .zar type of file
[15:29] <kolla> unzar? :)
[15:29] <Kovert> oldeone: ask a more specific question
[15:30] <OxDeadC0de_> oldeone: pretty sure that's the "hide all open windows" button (show desktop in win)
[15:31] <Dr_willis> I dont thinki ever got lancelot to actully work... :)
[15:31] <OxDeadC0de_> oh oldeone: press control+f12, it brings the dashboard up front (all the widgets you have on your desktop)
[15:31] <OxDeadC0de_> actually useful sometimes
[15:31] <OxDeadC0de_> I did apt-get install plasmoid-lancelot and it works for me
[15:32] <oldeone> when i hit the plasma widget(cant seem to find the name of the widget) all goes dim and I see the word plasma dashboard
[15:32] <oldeone> yes, same result as the c+f12
[15:32] <OxDeadC0de_> oldeone: do you have widgets on your desktop?
[15:32] <OxDeadC0de_> like folderview, freq scaler, system monitor, anything like that?
[15:32] <oldeone> yes, notes plasmoid
[15:33]  * kolla is watching the lancelot video and doesnt quite grasp the concept
[15:33] <OxDeadC0de_> then that _should_ pop up front, if it's not, then something's broke somewhere
[15:33] <naschil> whenever I try to compile a widget, I get errors like this : error: QtCore/QDate: No such file or directory
[15:34] <naschil> it seems I am missing some headers
[15:34] <kolla> looks like the point is to have icons flash by without clicking, or something :)
[15:34] <OxDeadC0de_> Kolla it's just like the k menu, except more intuative, and you can put parts like the "internet" section or (my favorite) "favorites" on the desktop
[15:34] <kolla> well, that doesnt help me much
[15:34] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil I have QDate in /usr/include/qt4/QTCore/QDate
[15:34] <kolla> I rarely use the menu at all anyhow
[15:35] <karan> using terminal how do you extract .tar bz file
[15:35] <OxDeadC0de_> kolla it has an option for no clicking, don't need to use it though
[15:35] <kolla> tar xjvf file.tar.bz
[15:35] <OxDeadC0de_> tar -xvjf file.tar.bz
[15:35] <OxDeadC0de_> lol
[15:36] <naschil> I have QDate there as well, but gcc doesn't seem to find it
[15:36] <kolla> would be nice to see multiselect menues on linux at some point..
[15:36] <kolla> on a linux desktop that is
[15:36] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil try passing an include directory to configure to point to /usr/include/qt4
[15:37] <kolla> as in.. select multiple entries from a menu without ever leaving the menu
[15:37] <OxDeadC0de_> multiseslect menus?
[15:37] <naschil> how do I do that in cmake?
[15:37] <OxDeadC0de_> oh, well, you can have that functionality with lancelot, place a part of it on your dashboard.. then use that, it never closes :P
[15:37] <kolla> not very usefull
[15:38] <kolla> gimp would really benefit from multiselect
[15:38] <kolla> since its menues are deep and cumbersome
[15:40] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil open up the CMakeLists.txt and add INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES(/usr/lib/qt4) (INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES probably already exists so add the new directory to it)
[15:41] <kolla> dinnertime...
[15:41] <karan> i want install wine but this comes in the terminal window
[15:41] <karan> karan@karan-laptop:~/wine-1.1.6$ \./tools/wineinstall
[15:41] <karan> Wine Installer v1.0
[15:42] <karan> Running configure...
[15:42] <karan> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[15:42] <OxDeadC0de_> karan: Why not use the winehq repo?
[15:42] <karan> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[15:42] <karan> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[15:42] <karan> checking for gcc... gcc -m32
[15:42] <karan> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[15:42] <karan> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:42] <karan> See `config.log' for more details.
[15:42] <karan> Configure failed, aborting install.
[15:42] <OxDeadC0de_> karan you need a 32-bit compiler to make wine, it doesn't support 64-bit yet
[15:42] <karan> where should i download it from
[15:43] <OxDeadC0de_> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb .. if you're insistant on compiling your own, search synaptic
[15:44] <Dr_willis> use the package manager.. :)
[15:44] <Dr_willis> winehq has fairly up to date wine packages for ubuntu - at least it used to.
[15:44] <OxDeadC0de_> it has 1.1.2 right now it seems
[15:44] <OxDeadC0de_> unless I'm using ubuntu's version
[15:44] <oldeone> winehq and winetricks worked well for 7.10
[15:45] <OxDeadC0de_> ya I'm using the winehq repo, it's 1.1.2
[15:46] <OxDeadC0de_> but they also seem to have 1.1.8 in there
[15:50] <OxDeadC0de_> I forget, how do i cleanup the .deb's apt downloaded?
[15:50] <OxDeadC0de_> nvr mind I love --help
[15:53] <salohcin> !wpa
[15:54] <salohcin> Has WPA changed any?
[15:54] <salohcin> The Docs are for 6.10
[15:54] <naschil> thx OxDeadC0de_
[15:55] <salohcin> Are those still valid?
[15:56] <oldeone> is there a system monitor widget? I cant find any
[15:56] <OxDeadC0de_> crap, I have a bit of a problem, I installed wine with apt-get a long time ago, it got stuck at version 1.1.2, now 1.1.8 is in there, so I go to synaptic and install 1.1.8 and find both 1.1.2 and 1.1.8 installed at the same time, and if I apt-get remove wine it only removes 1.1.8
[15:57] <OxDeadC0de_> am I screwed? (Have to remove by hand or..?)
[15:57] <geos> Hi! What's the default sound system in Intrepid?
[15:57] <OxDeadC0de_> geos in kubuntu it's alsa+arts, in gnome it's alsa+pulseaudio
[15:58] <salohcin> geos: phonon with gstreamer or xine . Your choice
[15:58] <geos> need to configure twinkle in kubuntu
[15:58] <salohcin> Assuming you have KDE4
[15:58] <geos> Yes, I can choose between ALSA or OSS
[15:59] <geos> seems to be alsa...
[15:59] <salohcin> Would be by default
[15:59] <naschil> I still have a problem compiling plasmoids
[16:00] <salohcin> naschil: What are you Compiling?
[16:00] <geos> I tried it but get no sound under twinkle
[16:00] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil let me guess, linking errors?
[16:00] <naschil> yup
[16:00] <naschil> the comic plasmoid
[16:00] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil you may want to add LIBRARY_DIRECTORIES(/usr/lib/qt4) too
[16:00] <salohcin> naschil: It's in the Plasmoids package
[16:00] <oldeone> where can i find more plasmoid?
[16:00] <OxDeadC0de_> oldeone: www.kde-look.org
[16:01] <naschil> I know, but I want to make the background transparent, and I want to install more dataengines
[16:01] <naschil> Unknown CMake command "LIBRARY_DIRECTORIES".
[16:02] <salohcin> oldeone: There is a plasmoids package
[16:03] <salohcin> !info kdeplasma-addons
[16:03] <naschil> you can also get more plasmoids from kde trunk playground, but these are sometimes unstable and hard to compile oldeone
[16:04] <naschil> I managed to compile a lot of plasmoids in hardy, but in intrepid im getting problems
[16:04] <salohcin> naschil: Comic should be in that package
[16:04] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil sorry it's link_directories
[16:04] <salohcin> oldeone: ^^^
[16:04] <naschil> thx
[16:06] <oldeone> err...i did look at kde-look.org...still looking
[16:06] <OxDeadC0de_> oldeone: look at the plasmoids section, the binaries section has quite a few, the scripts you can get by right clicking on the desktop/add widgets/install new/download from internet
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Eureka !, finally  got the xorg.conf file edited properly to run 3D and DRI on ATI x200g onboard graphics (fglrx driver) ..it may also work for other Radeons ...don't ask me about compiz pls because I don't use it at this stage.
[16:07] <naschil> i just realiesed I there were sill header errors
[16:07] <salohcin> BluesKaj: WHoot!
[16:07] <salohcin> bluecopper: How goes
[16:09]  * verge-herbage was wondering if anyone has experienced a broken kpackag in intrepid
[16:09] <teo_> alguien puede que me ayude aqui con mis problemas con el kubuntu?
[16:09] <salohcin> !es
[16:09] <teo_> Gracias
[16:10] <BluesKaj> salohcin: I suppose i should post it on pastebin ...no specific drivers for the monitor tho, just the generic 'configured monitor'
[16:10] <verge-herbage> does anyone know why kpackage doesn't show 'new' packages?
[16:12] <verge-herbage> anyone?
[16:13] <naschil> Im getting linker errors now
[16:13] <naschil> undefined reference to `Plasma::Applet::qt_metacast(char const*)' is the first error
[16:13] <salohcin> naschil: are you   trying to compile trunk ?
[16:13] <naschil> no
[16:13] <naschil> branches/KDE/4.1/kdeplasma-addons/applets/comic
[16:14] <Tm_T> naschil: what you are doing?
[16:14] <naschil> im trying to compile the comic plasmoid from kde svn, and am getting a bunch of errors
[16:14] <salohcin> naschil: Any reason why you don't wnat to install the package ?
[16:15] <oldeone> kde-look.org have stuff but most i found are for superkaramba
[16:15] <naschil> yes, as I want to change the source a little to make the background transparent
[16:15] <oldeone> e.g. crystal monitor
[16:15] <OxDeadC0de_> naschil you may want to check in #plasma on this server
[16:15] <kpackage-less> does anyone know why kpackage doesn't show 'new' packages? Is it just me?
[16:17] <naschil> ok thx, didnt know it existed :)
[16:17] <OxDeadC0de_> dunno I don't use kpackage, I use adept, synaptic, and gnome's update-manager (from time to time)
[16:17] <Banananana> How Kubuntu differs from a mosquito???
[16:17] <noaXess> how many of you have upgraded to 8.10? is it usable for daily use?
[16:18] <tobias_> Hello
[16:18] <salohcin> noaXess: Grab a Live CD and decide
[16:18] <kpackage-less> OxDeadC0de: thanks, me too, but the layout on kpackage is so much nicer, I wish it was working!
[16:18] <OxDeadC0de_> I use 8.10 daily, but I'm .. umm.. I've been using lin since 98 so I can solve any problems
[16:19] <OxDeadC0de_> kpackage-less I'll have to try it someday then, when it works ;)
[16:19] <noaXess> salohcin:  i hae 8.04, kde3 and kde4.1.2 and i'm not shure to upgrade to 8.10, cause then i get kde4.1.3
[16:19] <salohcin> noaXess: No You get 4.1.2
[16:20] <salohcin> You have to enable 4.1.3
[16:20] <noaXess> salohcin: but it can't be done unde 8.04.. i think
[16:20] <noaXess> cause its in the backports of 8.10
[16:20] <OxDeadC0de_> I love amarok's automatic playlist generation
[16:20] <Tm_T> naschil: yw (;)
[16:20] <salohcin> noaXess: I'm lost are you looking to get 4.1.3 or not ?
[16:21] <noaXess> salohcin: yeha.. but this is only possible with 8.10
[16:22] <salohcin> noaXess: Ah then. Are you linked to the plasma
[16:22] <noaXess> salohcin: ?
[16:22] <salohcin> plasma cashew
[16:22] <salohcin> That's patched out in 8.10
[16:23] <oldeone> should i install superkaramba to make additional widgets work?
[16:23] <Tm_T> salohcin: patched out?
[16:23] <salohcin> oldeone: If you like
[16:23] <salohcin> Tm_T: Isn't it?
[16:23] <Tm_T> salohcin: IIRC no, but I might be wrong because I don't use packaged KDE
[16:25] <OxDeadC0de_> erm, anyone want to help me debug this little issue? Background: I installed wine 1.1.2 from the winehq repos in 8.04, then upgraded to 8.10, wine stayed installed but didn't automatically upgrade anymore. I went to synaptic, wine wasn't even selected, so I clicked on it and installed it, now I have 1.1.8 intalled but I had 1.1.2 installed along side of it, so in order to resolve this since I cleaned apt, I downloaded the wine source and did
[16:25] <OxDeadC0de_> configure --prefix=/usr/local, make uninstall, now the 1.1.2 version is gone BUT when i type "wine" into the console, I get:bash: /usr/local/bin/wine: No such file or directory .. it should be /usr/bin/wine not local, it's not set in "alias".. where's this set so I can fix it? :P
[16:30] <noaXess> are ther some nvidia special settings for kde4?
[16:30] <noaXess> to get more power?
[16:30] <salohcin> !powa
[16:30] <salohcin> :-)
[16:31] <noaXess> !nvidia
[16:31] <noaXess> !kde4
[16:31] <noaXess> is the channel kubuntu-kde4 offline?
[16:32] <salohcin> noaXess: yes
[16:32] <noaXess> ok
[16:32] <dustin_> Mornin
[16:33] <dustin_> so I've been using Ubuntu standalone for about a week
[16:34] <dustin_> and I have the need to play games now so I was thinking of trying to install a copy of XP for games
[16:34] <salohcin> Right
[16:34] <dustin_> can you guys recommend a way to do it?
[16:34] <oldeone> bye
[16:34] <dustin_> (on an NTFS drive of course)
[16:34] <oldeone> tks
[16:34] <salohcin> dustin_: install Windows Xp then follow !grub
[16:34] <salohcin> !grub
[16:34] <dustin_> Windows won't hijack my MBR?
[16:35] <OxDeadC0de> never mind, reboot fixed it
[16:35] <dustin_> Ahh :D
[16:35] <salohcin> dustin_: That's why youfollow the link that ubottu just gave you
[16:35] <dustin_> Gotcha
[16:35] <dustin_> Sweet that's not so bad
[16:36] <dustin_> it's a shame I can't get my force feedback wheel to work under Linux
[16:36] <dustin_> I got TF2 working albeit in DX8.1 only but it's nice to know it works haha
[16:37] <OxDeadC0de> dustin_ Can you get it to work in dx9 if you use winetricks to install dx9?
[16:37] <dustin_> hmm
[16:38] <dustin_> never tried it actually
[16:39] <OxDeadC0de> I like dx9 in wine, works fairly well
[16:40] <Dr_Willis64> ive never had much luck with it..
[16:40] <Dr_Willis64> not tried latelyhowever
[16:40] <OxDeadC0de> try it with the latest winetricks, installed perfectly for me
[16:40] <Dr_Willis64> i imagine a lot can depend on the game.
[16:41] <OxDeadC0de> and a recent version of wine, i installed it in wine version 1.1.2 - just upgraded to 1.1.8 (Wow that was a hassle upgrading ><, broken packages and all, and I did apt-get clear which removed the now non-existant package I had installed and had to ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make uninstall just to remove the old wine)
[16:42] <dustin_> lol I suck at this OS
[16:42] <OxDeadC0de> but it works for both versions
[16:42] <salohcin> dustin_: :-) You'll get better
[16:43] <dustin_> if I try to use winetricks to install DX9 and I get a Permission Denied on the file to be downloaded
[16:43] <dustin_> I can do it manually? Just downhload it and tell winetricks to install /usr/wahtever/whatever.exe
[16:44] <OxDeadC0de> dustin_ Are you using the newest version of winetricks?
[16:44] <OxDeadC0de> http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[16:45] <dustin_> yeah I just installed it
[16:47] <OxDeadC0de> dustin_ I just ran winetricks (latest version) with "winetricks" selected directx9 from the list, hit okay, and it's downloading it now.. it places it in ~/.winetrickscache/
[16:47] <dustin_> hmm
[16:48] <OxDeadC0de> but you can do:
[16:48] <OxDeadC0de> cd ~/.winetrickscache
[16:48] <OxDeadC0de> if it doesn't exist,  mkdir ~/.winetrickscache ; cd .winetrickscache
[16:48] <OxDeadC0de> then wget http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/1/f/c1fb09b0-8a8b-45ba-8bb0-64f60bd23175/directx_jun2008_redist.exe , then winetricks, select dx9, it will use that one in the cache
[16:49] <dustin_> Ok :D
[16:52] <dustin_> permission denied!
[16:52] <dustin_> Ahh :d
[16:52] <dustin_> hehe
[16:53] <OxDeadC0de> at what point does it give you permission denied?
[16:53] <dustin_> dustin@Dustin:~$ sh winetricks directx9
[16:53] <dustin_> Setting Windows version to win2k
[16:53] <dustin_> winetricks: 1510: cannot create /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/set-winver.reg: Permission denied
[16:53] <dustin_> oops I should have done that in a group
[16:54] <OxDeadC0de> try mkdir /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/
[16:54] <dustin_> file exists
[16:54] <dustin_> maybe I have to change permissions?
[16:55] <OxDeadC0de> chown dustin:dustin /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/* && chmod u+rw /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/*
[16:55] <Dr_willis> You are not running one app as root and others as auser?
[16:55] <Dr_willis> or as different users?
[16:55] <dustin_> just this one user
[16:55] <OxDeadC0de> if it was a different user it would try ~/.wine , so it wouldn't use his home directory
[16:57] <dustin_> man so weird I can't make a /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/* because permission denied  still
[16:57] <OxDeadC0de> sudo chown dustin:dustin /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/ && sudo chmod u+rw /home/dustin/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/
[16:57] <OxDeadC0de> also, make sure you arn't out of disk space again :P
[16:57] <salohcin> :-D
[16:58] <dustin_> I have lots :D
[16:58] <dustin_> there we go
[16:58] <dustin_> that worked
[16:58] <dustin_> maybe I need to be using sudo for everything then?
[16:58] <OxDeadC0de> no
[16:58] <dustin_> oh
[16:58] <dustin_> haha :D
[16:58] <OxDeadC0de> just when you're modifying permissions or install/removing global packages or setting up global settings
[16:58] <dustin_> ok
[16:59] <dustin_> there itgoes
[16:59] <dustin_> installation failed hahaha :D
[16:59] <Rioting_pacifist> my reiserfs partition /home is screwed , i cant lauch firefox because i donnt g
[16:59] <OxDeadC0de> once it's installed it should "just work", (or not)
[16:59] <OxDeadC0de> wine --version
[17:00] <Rioting_pacifist> have permision to acces /.gnome2
[17:00] <dustin_> 1.1.8
[17:00] <OxDeadC0de> rioting_pacifist chown user:user ~/.gnome2 -R
[17:00] <OxDeadC0de> er, sudo chown user:user ~/.gnome2 -R
[17:01] <Rioting_pacifist> juan@Juan-Hardy:~$ sudo chown juan:juan ~/.gnome2 -R gives :chown: cannot access `/home/juan/.gnome2': Permission denied
[17:02] <dustin_> installation failed Hmm
[17:02] <OxDeadC0de> dustin_ let me guess, at  Executing wine regedit /home/deadc0de/.wine/drive_c/winetrickstmp/override-dll.reg  ?
[17:02] <dustin_> \windows\system32\DirectX\DX46ce.tmp\dxntunp.inf - [WINXP_MIGRATION]' failed
[17:02] <dustin_> from the directx log
[17:03] <OxDeadC0de> erm, it should be in win2k mode not winxp mode
[17:03] <dustin_> it seems to change me to Windows2K
[17:03] <dustin_> Ok
[17:03] <dustin_> so that's right then
[17:04] <OxDeadC0de> where did it fail? I just installed it (again) via winetricks with 1.1.8 and it worked fine, try: sudo chown dustin:dustin ~/.wine -R && chmod u+rw ~/.wine -R
[17:04] <OxDeadC0de> sudo before the chmod sry
[17:05] <dustin_> same problem
[17:06] <dustin_> hmm
[17:06] <dustin_> maybe I'll redownload directx
[17:06] <abel> no
[17:06] <dustin_> it says file may be corrupted in the log
[17:06] <dustin_> which doesn'tmean a whole lot
[17:06] <dustin_> wget http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/1/f/c1fb09b0-8a8b-45ba-8bb0-64f60bd23175/directx_jun2008_redist.exe
[17:06] <dustin_> that's where I got it from
[17:06] <dustin_> should be fine :D
[17:07] <OxDeadC0de> dustin, do you have mono installed?
[17:07] <dustin_> I don't know what mono is sorry
[17:07] <dustin_> hehe
[17:07] <dustin_> well besides the disease
[17:07] <dustin_> but I got shots as a child
[17:07] <OxDeadC0de> it's basically "a port" of .net 2.0
[17:07] <dustin_> hmm ok what does it do
[17:08] <OxDeadC0de> !mono
[17:09] <dustin_> sounds like me
[17:09] <dustin_> haha
[17:10] <dustin_> ahh open source .net
[17:11] <dustin_> isn't it installed by default on Ubuntu?
[17:14] <OxDeadC0de> hmm I have a lot of mono packages installed for 2.0 and 1.0
[17:16] <Dis0> hey all, i was wondering can i use emerald themes and still have the effects of kde4?
[17:16] <dustin_> installing 2.0
[17:16] <Tm_T> Dis0: no
[17:16] <Dis0> crap :(
[17:16] <blek> bonsoir a toutes et tous
[17:17] <Tm_T> blek: iltaa
[17:18] <blek> desole mais j'ai un gros probleme une nouvelle distribution m'a ete propose j'ai voulu l'installe et depui kubuntu ne veux plus demarrer
[17:18] <RurouniJones> !fr | blek
[17:19] <blek> ok thank's
[17:19] <RurouniJones> no problem, always helps to have advice in native language
[17:19] <OxDeadC0de> dis0 I use emerald themes and compiz for effects in kde4
[17:20] <dustin_> bah I give up :D
[17:22] <Dis0> thanks OxDeadC0de, i think i ll do that
[17:22] <Dis0> but i wanted to keep the kde4 effects, since the kde4.2 is coming up
[17:23] <Dis0> is compiz working fine in kde4? my computer is not that new...
[17:23] <dustin_> hey OxDeadC0de thanks for the help by the way
[17:23] <dustin_> awesome :D
[17:24] <OxDeadC0de> hey dustin_ try http://wine-reviews.net/microsoft/directx-90c-march-2008-redistributable-on-linux-with-wine.html , and you can winetricks mono 2.0 and 1.0 btw, I also have corefonts, vc6redist, vcredist, dotnet11 dotnet20 dcom98 all installe
[17:25] <OxDeadC0de> Dis0 compiz works for me just fine
[17:25] <OxDeadC0de> oh it's not mono you can install with winetricks, dur, it's actual .net ^^
[17:25] <wilbert> need somehelp here with mobuntu
[17:25] <dustin_> ohh :D
[17:25] <Tm_T> wilbert: what is mobuntu?
[17:26] <dustin_> ok cheers
[17:26] <wilbert> well ie heard there is a ubuntu interface designed for movile smart phones and im interested in that
[17:26] <dustin_> I'll be back a little later
[17:26] <dustin_> thanks for the help!
[17:26] <OxDeadC0de> later dustin_
[17:26] <Tm_T> wilbert: what help you need with it?
[17:27] <wilbert> know if my phone packs up with the IOS
[17:27] <wilbert> OS*
[17:27] <Tm_T> wilbert: if it's not Linux phone already, I'd say no
[17:28] <wilbert> it came with windows mobile in it.  but since its so popular for comercial usage you know.
[17:29] <wilbert> any guess of where i could catch some info bout it? Tm_t?
[17:29] <Tm_T> wilbert: chances are you cannot easily get Linux in it
[17:29] <edi_99> Hey guys, I'm having some problems with my lcd... seems like VCL, dragon and caffeine works ok, but when I watch something it's blinking constantly...what should I do?
[17:29] <wilbert> i see
[17:29] <Tm_T> wilbert: google is best bet, I haven't seen any relevant page related to that
[17:30] <wilbert> il link ya if i find something Tm_T
[17:30] <Tm_T> wilbert: danke
[17:30] <BluesKaj> edi_99: which graphics ?
[17:31] <edi_99> ati radeon hd something...
[17:31] <wilbert> Tm_T..
[17:31] <wilbert> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[17:31] <Tm_T> wilbert: yup, tells nothing really
[17:32] <BluesKaj> edi_99:  pci or onboard ?
[17:33] <edi_99> BluesKaj: pci, I guess it's mounted in my laptop.. any way to check?
[17:33] <wilbert> Exactly.. thatś why im asking im not sure if its oriwentes for tablets portables. laptops or smaller comps.. since smartphones are considered sometime computers ( since the have OS in them )
[17:33] <BluesKaj> edi_99:  in the terminal : lspci | grep VGA
[17:33] <wilbert> Leveraging the MID
[17:33] <wilbert> MIDs typically have the following features and attributes:
[17:34] <wilbert>     * Small size/form factor
[17:34] <wilbert>     * 4 to 7 inch touch screen
[17:34] <wilbert>     * Physical and/or virtual keyboard
[17:34] <wilbert>     * Wi-Fi, 3G, Bluetooth, GPS, WiMAX
[17:34] <wilbert>     * 2GB to 8GB Flash or disk storage, 256MB+ memory/512MB+ recommended
[17:34] <wilbert>     * OpenGL 3D
[17:34] <wilbert>     * USB, camera, head phone jack, speakers, microphone
[17:34] <cengo> selamin aleyke vesseletü min kelek vebi eben güzelebek
[17:34] <cengo> selamin aleyke vesseletü min kelek vebi eben güzelebek
[17:34] <cengo> selam millet
[17:34] <edi_99> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 95c2
[17:35] <wilbert> this is the other one i founsd Tm_T
[17:35] <edi_99> BluesKaj: It was working just fine untill, like, 10 min ago
[17:35] <wilbert> http://moblin.org/
[17:35] <BluesKaj> !cengo | tr
[17:35] <BluesKaj> !tr | cengo
[17:35] <cengo> pardon
[17:36] <cengo> :D
[17:36] <cengo> okey
[17:37] <BluesKaj> edi_99: did you update ?
[17:38] <Dis0> is compiz-fusion installed on kubuntu 8.10?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> gotta go
[17:38] <edi_99> BluesKaj: yup
[17:38] <edi_99> BluesKaj: unfortunatelly
[17:39] <OxDeadC0de> Dis0: sudo apt-get install compiz ccsm compiz-kde fusion-icon
[17:39] <Dis0> thanks OxDeadC0de :)
[17:39] <edi_99> BluesKaj: any way to fix this
[17:43] <wilbert_> Moblin
[17:43] <wilbert_> #moblin
[17:43] <edi_99> BluesKaj: please?
[17:44] <Dis0> cant find ccsm :/
[17:45] <chairman_> my adept 3.0 keep crashing .what's going on?
[17:46] <wilbert_> #ubuntu-PR
[17:46] <OxDeadC0de> dis0 sorry change the ccsm one to compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:47] <OxDeadC0de> edi99 you have a ATI MOBILITY /ATI RADEON HD 3430
[17:47] <OxDeadC0de> edi99 are you using the ati drivers via the restricted hardware manager?
[17:48] <edi_99> yes
[17:48] <Dis0> thx
[17:49] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: yes
[17:49] <chairman_> my sypnatics manager keeps getting errors too
[17:49] <OxDeadC0de> edi99 are you using compiz?
[17:50] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: hmm..what is compiz?
[17:50] <geos> hi How can I change the shortcut for Krunner to <alt>+<space>?
[17:50] <OxDeadC0de> edi_99 it's the desktop cube and special fx
[17:51] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: no
[17:54] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: I don't use that
[17:54] <OxDeadC0de> edi_99 if you do: alt+shift+f12 does the "flashing" stop?
[17:54] <chairman_> anubis i need your help
[17:56] <OxDeadC0de> edi_99 go kmenu/system settings/display - make sure desktop effects are off, try again
[17:57] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: alt+shift+f12 does help
[17:57] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: what does it do?
[17:57] <OxDeadC0de> edi_99 looks like you're having a problem with compositing then
[17:57] <OxDeadC0de> edi_99 it toggles compositing on and off
[17:57] <anubis> chairman_: how come?
[17:58] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: what does compositing actually do?
[17:58] <anubis> whats a good program like paint in kubuntu?
[17:59] <OxDeadC0de> edi_99 http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/compositing.html
[17:59] <OxDeadC0de> anubis: the gimp
[17:59] <edi_99> OxDeadC0de: thanks
[18:00] <anubis> OxDeadC0de: is that the name of the program or you calling me a gimp?
[18:00] <OxDeadC0de> anubis: LoL, don't know you well enough to call you a gimp :P
[18:00] <anubis> hehe
[18:02] <anubis> OxDeadC0de: gimp is gnome?
[18:02] <chairman_> for some reason my adept keep crashing.when i bring it up and put in my password it crashes
[18:02] <kottlett> hi! during the beta / rc phase of intrepid, whenever an application crashed, a popup allowed me to automatically send a bug report... this doesn't happen any more since some last update before the release - is this normal? :)
[18:04] <OxDeadC0de> anubis is it? always thought it was just gnu image manipulation program, does it depend on gnome stuff?
[18:05] <OxDeadC0de> !gimp
[18:06] <Pici> kottlett: Yes, its normal.
[18:07] <kottlett> Pici: what a pity... I liked that feature :o)
[18:08] <ptl> !kgimp
[18:08] <ptl> !kimp
[18:08] <ptl> :[
[18:08] <ptl> anubis: GIMP was one of the very first gnome application, and GTK+, the main gnome library, actually means GIMP Toolkit.
[18:09] <Pici> kottlett: apport is disabled when the release is.. uh, released.
[18:09] <ptl> anubis: it was the flagship application of Gnome
[18:09] <sba61> hi, will there be kde 4.2 beta packages available for kubuntu?
[18:09] <ptl> sba61: probably
[18:09] <Pici> kottlett: There are ways to enable it though, take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Apport
[18:09] <sba61> ptl: cool tnx
[18:09] <ptl> sba61: the big question is when! :)
[18:10] <ptl> sba61: I think it is certain that Ubuntu 9.04 will have KDE 4.2, since KDE 4.2 will go out in january and there are lots of time for testing.
[18:10] <OxDeadC0de> Kde 4.2 is epxected to be released in January, so I'd expect around then there will be a repo or backport or something for it for 8.10
[18:10] <kottlett> Pici: what is the attitude of the devs / maintainers - are these automatic reports welcome, in general?
[18:10] <ptl> OxDeadC0de: that too!
[18:11] <sba61> well 4.2 is certainly looking awesome :)
[18:12] <Pici> kottlett: From what I beleive, they'd only like people who know what they're doing using apport after release time.  I'd think that someone who used it during pre-release would qualify there.
[18:13] <kottlett> Pici: sounds good :)
[18:16] <ptl> 4.1.3 is already a big hit, I can't imagine how good 4.2 will be
[18:16] <ptl> 4.1.3 is too buggy though
[18:17] <ptl> The numbering is wrong. 4.1.3 should be 3.9.8
[18:23] <chairman_> i still need help guys
[18:26] <kottlett> chairman_: did you try starting it from a shell? any output there?
[18:27] <chairman_> ok. where i go to start from a shell. do i go to terminal?
[18:28] <chairman_> the reason I asked is got TERMINAL open now
[18:29] <janne> Hello! I have a problem with speaker-test. It stops when the first speaker
[18:29] <anton_> Hello. Does anyone know how to make the text under desktop icons dissapear? I want a clean-look =D
[18:29] <janne> sorry it stops with the first speaker and no sound is heard.
[18:29] <chairman_> ok i'm in shell now
[18:29] <chairman_> now what
[18:30] <chairman_> kottlett?
[18:30] <kottlett> chairman_: try to start the application (what was ist? adept_manager?)
[18:30] <chairman_> yeah
[18:32] <chairman_> i did package manager and a error keeps coming up
[18:32] <janne> has someone stumbled on the same problem?
[18:33] <courtjesterg> so i am messing with my desktop config interesting stuff and effects
[18:33] <courtjesterg> nyone in here?
[18:33] <anton_> Does anyone know how to make the text under desktop icons dissapear?
[18:33] <courtjesterg> ohh it poped up
[18:33] <ubuntu_> no
[18:34] <courtjesterg> now its gone now its back
[18:34] <courtjesterg> now your gone odd
[18:35] <chairman_> kottlett u there G/
[18:35] <courtjesterg> k
[18:35] <kottlett> chairman_: from time to time ;) any useful error message?
[18:35] <courtjesterg> alright when i type the names disappear of the peeps in the chat
[18:35] <courtjesterg> then they reappear
[18:35] <figo> iao a tutti non riesco a vedere i video sento solo l'audio come faccio ad aggiornare le librerie con i codec ? ? ?
[18:36] <courtjesterg> odd its only in here i can't even read any of the options in file and ect
[18:38] <courtjesterg> graphics  question
[18:38] <courtjesterg> i got 96 installed should i install up to 177?
[18:38] <glkasleg> how do I record voice in kubuntu? I've tried audacity - but it gives me (and has always given me) problems in Linux. Any suggestions?
[18:38] <courtjesterg> another question where is the meta key?
[18:38] <chairman_> all it said was' sudo apt-get update 'sudo apt-get install -f' and i did that and nothing happened
[18:39] <chairman_> and tht was on package manager
[18:39] <courtjesterg> or is meta a term for keyboard shotcut?
[18:41] <kopertonKde4> recording plug in in kde4 ?
[18:47] <razi> hi
[18:48] <chairman_> how can i run adept
[18:48] <technikk> chairman_ from terminal
[18:48] <technikk> ?
[18:49] <anubis> so yeah guys whats a good picture app for kde?
[18:50] <chairman_> what do i type tech?
[18:50] <anubis> something of the paint in windows genre
[18:50] <technikk> anubis gimp and only gimp .... it`s the best app :)
[18:50] <anubis> technikk: but gimp is gnome mate?
[18:51] <technikk> newermind
[18:51] <anubis> sudo apt-get install gimp or what?
[18:51] <technikk> it`s working fine in KDE to
[18:51] <technikk> :)
[18:51] <technikk> jes sudo apt-get install gimp
[18:51] <anubis> ok but if its crap im haxoring your box
[18:51] <anubis> hehe
[18:51] <technikk> lol
[18:51] <technikk> ok my friend
[18:51] <technikk> :)
[18:52] <anubis> lol
[18:53] <Lirkkanen> anubis http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-introduction-whats-new.html
[18:53] <edi_99> hi guys is there any way to use itunes on kubuntu?
[18:53] <damian_> hello
[18:53] <damian_> ??
[18:54] <anubis> gimp is nice
[18:54] <anubis> :D
[18:55] <chairman_> tech what do i type for adept 3.0?
[18:56] <Timorek> Hello
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:56] <anubis> Lirkkanen: thx
[18:57] <Timorek> I have kubuntu 8.10 where in this distribution I can enter KDM theme manager?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[18:57] <Lirkkanen> np :-)
[18:58] <Timorek> Anybody can hellp me?
[18:59] <chairman_> i still need help w/adept?!
[18:59] <Timorek> where I can enter KDM theme manager?
[19:00] <Timorek> in kubuntu 8.10?
[19:01] <Timorek> so?
[19:03] <Timorek> somebody can tell something?
[19:03] <Timorek> Hello people this is officeal Kubuntu support...
[19:04] <Timorek> no kurde jak mi nie pomozecie to zrobie wam kupe na srodku pokoju
[19:04] <technikk> Timorek
[19:04] <technikk> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120
[19:04] <Timorek> ale ja mam zainstalowane ;]
[19:04] <chairman_> good i need help in adept 3.0 and i need my desktop viewer back. how can i get these back?PLEASE
[19:05] <Timorek> tylko nigdzie tego nie mam
[19:05] <Timorek> oto co jak wpisze kcontrol w konsoli
[19:06] <Timorek> bash: kcontrol: polecenie nieodnalezione
[19:06] <Timorek> co mam zrobic? : ]
[19:06] <technikk> chairman_ what is your version of kubuntu?
[19:06] <technikk> Timorek english please :/
[19:06] <Timorek> ok
[19:07] <Timorek> That what's I'm get when I type in terminal kcontrol
 no kurde jak mi nie pomozecie to zrobie wam kupe na srodku pokoju
[19:07] <Timorek> [20:04] <technikk> Timorek
[19:07] <Timorek> [20:04] <technikk> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120
[19:07] <chairman_> interpid ibex 8.10!
[19:07] <technikk> adept 3.0 is shiped with 8.10 version
[19:08] <technikk> shipped*
[19:09] <technikk> and what is your problem with adept?
[19:09] <technikk> you can`t start it ir what?
[19:09] <technikk> or*
[19:09] <courtjesterg> I GOT A KEYBOARD QUESTION
[19:10] <chairman_> i got it here but every time when i brring it up and type my PW  it crashes for some reason .it don't show up on the screen or nothing
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !caps | courtjesterg
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !ask | courtjesterg
[19:10] <courtjesterg> i went to the different layouts for keyboards wonder i got a logitech keyboard usually it would show when caps are enable and alot of shortcuts aren't working on the keyboard tryed all the different options none work
[19:11] <technikk> chairman_ try to reinstall adept
[19:11] <courtjesterg> i got the logitech elite duo
[19:11] <chairman_> how?>
[19:11] <Timorek> I don't have anywhere K control center even!!
[19:11] <technikk> sudo apt-get install -f
[19:12] <technikk> chairman_
[19:12] <technikk> sudo apt-get update
[19:12] <technikk> then
[19:12] <technikk> sudo apt-get install adept
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> technikk: yuo can put commands on the same line and seperate with &&
[19:13] <technikk> it will install all adept apps & dependencies
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> technikk: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept
[19:13] <technikk> ofcorse :)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> && means 'do next step if previous step passed'
[19:14] <courtjesterg> anybody had troubles with there keyboard and getting all functions if so how did you do it?
[19:15] <chairman_> do i type tht together
[19:15] <CarolinaSwamp> anyone upgraded to 8.10? if so, any issues?
[19:15] <technikk> don`t type the first one
[19:15] <courtjesterg> i swear this chat room is helpless for getting help if you need to do something no advice just do it your self
[19:16] <technikk> just last two commands
[19:16] <technikk> chairman_ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept
[19:16] <Lirkkanen> Timorek: Try "Alt-F2" and type "KControl"
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> CarolinaSwamp: was flawless here
[19:17] <extacy> csao
[19:17] <CarolinaSwamp> ActionParsnip: glad to hear that - i have always had issues with my wireless card so im hesitant to switch
[19:18] <extacy> where the hungary chanel? :D
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> CarolinaSwamp: what wifi do you have?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> !hu
[19:18] <extacy> köszi/thanks
[19:18] <CarolinaSwamp> ActionParsnip: broadcom chipset on my HP dv9000 laptop
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> CarolinaSwamp: what does lspci say it is?
[19:19] <chairman_> all it says is; type 'software-properties-kdesoftware-properties-kde' is not known on line 65 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:19] <CarolinaSwamp> BCM 4312
[19:19] <thomas> hallo
[19:20] <thomas> was ist
[19:20] <chairman_> with the letter E: in front
[19:20] <CarolinaSwamp> ActionParsnip: fwcutter didnt work in the past, and i always had to use ndiswrapper or some other workaround.  i'll do some research and see if they added support for 4312
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> CarolinaSwamp: i'd check the compatibility, you could always run it in live environment to test
[19:22] <CarolinaSwamp> ActionParsnip: good idea, i'll try that
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> CarolinaSwamp: you may find the config gets carried over
[19:32] <chairman_> ok guys . i got my destop viewer back but i still have this crash problem w/adept on ibex
[19:33] <chairman_> it don't want to come up when i type the PW and when i type those commands in terminal nothing happens\
[19:34] <bipolar> Does anyone know if there is a backport of the sierra module to hardy? I've just received 3 at&t laptop connect cards that I need to get working and it seems I need an updated module.
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: sudo apt-get --purge remove adept && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install adept
[19:37] <chairman_> Action do i type ttht together or separate?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: thats the whole command
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: please tab complete my name too so I know you are talking at me
[19:39] <chairman_> ok
[19:39] <chairman_> i'm typing it in now
[19:42] <chairman_> ActionParsnip command not found
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: at what part
[19:45] <chairman_> at the beginning after chairman@ubuntu:~$ :
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: sudo apt-get --purge remove adept
[19:47] <courtjesterg> with themes when installing new themes how do you do it? I don't even see an option besides you click install goes to unistall but then how do you get it to show up?
[19:48] <Jason_CO> i have a hard drive in a USB drive tray attached to my kubuntu Intrepid comptuer -- how would i SECURELY erase and format the drive?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: did it remove?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Jason_CO: you can get disk scrubbers
[19:49] <Jason_CO> an you suggest one?
[19:49] <courtjesterg> nevermind fuguired it out
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Jason_CO: theres a few on the ultimate boot cd
[19:50] <chairman_> ActionParsnip ...No. it just says type software-properties-kdesoftware-properties-kde
[19:50] <Jason_CO> ok
[19:50] <chairman_> is not known on line 65 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Jason_CO: http://ask.metafilter.com/106287/How-can-I-monitor-a-disc-rewrite-process-in-Ubuntu
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Jason_CO: you need to do it i live cd
[19:51] <Jason_CO> ok
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:55] <chairman_> same thing
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: can you give a pastebin of command and error
[19:56] <tobor> Hi all - does anyone know what PythonPath is supposed to be set to under Kubuntu?
[19:57] <tobor> or failing that, whats the URL for the Kubuntu wiki, please ?
[19:58] <chairman_> nope
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> chairman_: if i can see the whole error itd be dead useful
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !paste | chairman_
[20:05] <chairman_> did uget it
[20:17] <edi_99> hey guys... I have a laptop and integrated speakers....i hear sound if I have earphones plugged in, otherwise not. Alsa is all the way to the max
[20:17] <edi_99> what seems to be the problem?
[20:23] <edi_99> anyone?
[20:32] <chairman> hey i got it saved on my kde crash aahndler\
[20:32] <chairman> handler
[20:33] <chairman> the bug from adept
[20:36] <Coggz> can anyone help me with a vnc issue, i need to know how to forward it over a dynamic ip through a router
[20:37] <sorush20> how do I find out which version of kde I am using from the terminal ?
[20:37] <sorush20> ?
[20:40] <Coggz> sorush20: dpkg -l | grep 'kde' (i think)
[20:40] <sorush20> I'm using kubuntu 8.10, I have openoffice.org 2.4.1-11ubuntu2, I'm using kde 4.1.3, I have installed all the relevant packages. When I right clickn anywhere on the page in openoffice.org. writer the application crashes. Is there a similar bug out there can I do anything about it?
[20:46] <Lokiase> hello, can someone help me with the audio in amsn?
[20:46] <Lokiase> i need to install something it says
[20:50] <luke_> sorush20: did that command work?
[20:52] <sorush20> luke_: yes it did but I have to make the kde exact
[20:53] <luke_> ah
[20:56] <tmp> sera  atutti
[20:57] <genii-around> !it | tmp
[20:59] <luke_> can anyone help me vnc over a dynamic dns through a router?
[21:05] <genii-around> luke_: Get some dynamic dns service like dyndns  and then run a client for it on the machine behind the router. Then forward your vnc ports like 5800,5801 and 5900,5901 to the internal IP of that box, which should be always assigned the same IP by mac address from your router
[21:05] <genii-around> Some routers even themselves have the dyndns client, etc
[21:17] <wanja> hallo
[21:17] <gerson> hi
[21:18] <gerson> alguien de latino america
[21:18] <wanja> somebody from germany here?
[21:18] <genii-around> !es | gerson
[21:19] <genii-around> wanja: There is also a German channel
[21:19] <wanja> i dont know where
[21:19] <wanja> and how to find
[21:19] <wanja> genii may you tell me how to find?
[21:21] <genii-around> !de | wanja
[21:21] <wanja> thx
[21:21] <genii-around> wanja: bitte
[21:26] <plip78> hi guys, does anyone know if the wubi can install KDE?
[21:27] <genii-around> plip78: Yes it can
[21:29] <plip78> cheers genii-around :) just dont want to muck up the partition i have lol
[21:29] <plip78> made a boo boo once lol
[21:29] <plip78> any ideas when mubi is on for release?
[21:31] <sedat__> merhaba arkadaslar
[21:32] <sedat__> türk kim var  acep
[21:32] <genii-around> !tr | sedat__
[21:35] <genii-around> sedat__:  /j #ubuntu-tr
[21:54] <Rioting_pacifist> my computer spends 10 seconds fscking every boot up (5 on / and 5 on /home i think (both reiser))! 1) can i change it to fsck both in parrallel, 2) can i use the CPU thats idle to do something usefull during this time, 3) why does it need 5 seconds to tell me the driver doesnt need checking
[22:06] <m_tadeu> is there a way to make kde3 apps look like kde4 in intrepid?
[22:07] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:07] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me with a floppy problem?
[22:08] <ubuntu_> just a few words please
[22:09] <azazyl> kanenas re paidia?
[22:09] <azazyl> kanenas Ellinas?
[22:10] <jcfp> !gr | azazyl
[22:11] <azazyl> ubottu?
[22:34] <erwin__> does anyone know how to define the window size in konsole 2.1 (kde 4.1.2 intrepid)?
[22:38] <cuzbuntu> i would best define it as rectangle like
[22:39] <erwin__> thanks. hadn't thought of that.
[22:40] <erwin__> anyone else?
[22:44]  * jackie4u waves hello
[22:45] <rav> hello. is it still possible to have KDE4 in parallel with KDE 3.5.10 in hardy?
[22:45] <matt__> ive been running ibex since alpha and its fully upgraded and adept still doesnt work
[22:45] <matt__> itll start to run and the fade out
[22:47] <jackie4u> in hardy u can run kde3.5 parallel with kde4 ... about ibex not sure
[22:47] <rav> matt__: i didn't like adept in KDE4. I just went with trusted old aptitude
[22:48] <matt__> hmmm
[22:48] <jackie4u> #ubuntu-cz
[22:48] <matt__> yeah just wanted to try it outnall the hype n what not
[22:49] <matt__> i just got it to work lol
[22:49] <rav> matt__: it's very counter-intuitive for my taste
[22:49] <matt__> i purge removed it
[22:49] <matt__> and reinstalled
[22:49] <matt__> and it worked lol
[22:50] <rav> if I install KDE4 in parallel with 3.5.10 in hardy, will kdm be replaced by the KDE4 version?
[22:50] <jorkponx> yes
[22:51] <cuzbuntu> Random Fortune: Linux: Where Don't We Want To Go Today? 	-- Submitted by Pancrazio De Mauro, paraphrasing some well-known sales talk
[22:53] <wolfjb> I may have a need to move to 64 bit from my current 32 bit install. Do I have to totally reinstall or is there a safe apt-get upgrade path to get me there?
[22:57] <Kernel> hmm my flash in firefox stops working after i leave firefox open for a while....i goto watch a video on youtube or something and the video just wont play...other times the video will play but the sound will just skip repeadetly
[22:57] <Kernel> is there anything i can do?.....i know flash and linux still suck together
[22:57] <Rioting_pacifist> how to i get a boot log ive set bootlogd as a demon to start at runlevel s, but /var/log/boot is still empty
[22:59] <Rioting_pacifist> Kernel: Ive heard that the latest pluginwrapper has a workaround for flash crashing, but i think if your on x86 it will bring more trouble than its worse, other than that toggling hardware accelleration helps
[23:03] <jack_> hi, help pleas, how to kill KDE?
[23:04] <bp44> what do you mean by "kill KDE"?
[23:04] <rickest> jack_: ctrl-alt-backspace maybe
[23:04] <jack_> I need to stop it. Becose i have to update it. I have problem with update and i need shutdown KDE to unlock any files.
[23:05] <dwidmann_> I wonder if this has anything to do with it:
[23:05] <jack_> "ctrl-alt-backspace maybe" isnt it only reboot?
[23:05] <dwidmann_> !adeptfix
[23:06] <jack_> ok i go to try it thanks.
[23:10] <courtjesterg> problem dunno where it came from sure it has to do with this os, started yesterday when i had to even do a fresh reinstall of the os cause firestarter firewall dunno how clocked me from booting into the os? Maybe i should of did a recovery didn't think. Anyway after that my cd/rewrite drive started making funning noises and it disappeared from the bios menu when detecting ide drives, i cleared my cmos once it came back now its
[23:10] <courtjesterg> gone again and doesn't even open up or light up anybody can give any insight into what is going on or how i can fix? Been trying to detect it in my bios.
[23:12] <courtjesterg> i was getting an srst failed erro=16 for the longest time at boot
[23:12] <courtjesterg> aand it would fail only option was to restart
[23:12] <courtjesterg> believe the error was the cd/write
[23:12] <rav> courtjesterg> firestarter usually locks up everything when you start it. it's not a good firewall manager IMHO
[23:13] <rav> courtjesterg: locks every port, I mean
[23:13] <courtjesterg> it said failed todetect device
[23:13] <courtjesterg> yeah rav this was a restart i wasn't even int he os yet it suck lol
[23:13] <courtjesterg> maybe main consern is the rewrite able drive
[23:14] <rav> courtjesterg: the firewall is enabled during boot
[23:14] <courtjesterg> i wonder if i cleared my cmos again which is a pain in my butt to open the computer and switch the swtich of the pins back and forth
[23:14] <courtjesterg> i am not using the firestarter as my firewall haven't choose a new one yet
[23:15] <rav> courtjesterg: try a live cd, to see if it's really a hardware problem
[23:15] <courtjesterg> next question maybe this can help is there a program in the os that can detect hardare or maybe i do not have the drivers for it?
[23:16] <courtjesterg> its not even lighting up
[23:17] <courtjesterg> a live cd? the os is isntalled on my hardrive not booting from a live cd i took windows out all the way
[23:17] <rav> courtjesterg: http://www.knoppix.net best hardware detection i've seen
[23:17] <courtjesterg> ok
[23:18] <rav> courtjesterg: if you use a liveCD and it works, then you just have a broken installation and no hardware problems
[23:20] <jcd> courtjesterg: Check that your bios does see the CD drive first. It it can't then your CD is certainly toasted ... Else you can try a live CD as hinted above.
[23:23] <courtjesterg> alright thanks
[23:26] <aleite> Hello guys..
[23:26] <aleite> Do you know where I can get a package of cmake 2.6.2? KDE trunk now needs it
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> aleite: enable intrepid-backports
[23:28] <aleite> JontheEchidna: Thanks!
[23:31] <ReAp3r> i need some help accessing an NTFS drive.. someone please PM//
[23:31] <ReAp3r> please ?
[23:33] <rav> ReAp3r: if it works, it should be on Storage Media. Click on it to mount it
[23:33] <ReAp3r> it comes up in dolphin but it wont access..
[23:33] <ReAp3r> iv done it before on fedora
[23:33] <ReAp3r> through terminal
[23:33] <ReAp3r> mkdir /mnt/win
[23:34] <ReAp3r> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
[23:34] <ReAp3r> etchowever in ubuntu now i cant seem to find dev name of NTFS drive
[23:34] <ReAp3r> new to ubunti by the way .. Sorry
[23:34] <ReAp3r> ubuntu*
[23:35] <rav> ReAp3r: hover the mouse over it on dolphin, the device should be on the info
[23:35] <aleite> JontheEchidna: it didn't work... :-(
[23:35] <aleite> made a apt-cache policy...
[23:35] <aleite> only shows cmake 2.6.0 from ubuntu's
[23:36] <ReAp3r> no joy.. just says Volume (ntfs)
[23:37] <rav> ReAp3r: try 'df' on a console
[23:37] <a_> hello?
[23:37] <JontheEchidna> aleite: did you apt-get update?
[23:37] <a_> sorry testing the new irc have question but
[23:37] <aleite> yeap
[23:38] <a_> how do i install a program i downloaded anyone please?
[23:38] <aleite> added intrepid-backport main restricted multiverse universe
[23:38] <a_> a .run or a .tar,bz2
[23:38] <aleite> is something missing?
[23:38] <ReAp3r> *ntfs drive not shoowing up with the "df command
[23:39] <a_> any links?
[23:39] <rav> a_: for simple install, get *.deb packages. if you download *.tar.bz or *.tar.gz, you probably have to compile the program
[23:39] <a_> hey i didnt make an acount on this Konversation irc thing is it showing or what?
[23:39] <a_> oh it is xD
[23:40] <a_> i didnt see .deb but they were all specific games this time any tutorials?
[23:40] <ReAp3r> a_: whats OS are you using ? and what is the file extention you want to install ?
[23:40] <a_> ubuntu
[23:40] <ReAp3r> ok, and the intall file ext ?
[23:40] <a_> .run and .tar.bz2
[23:40] <ReAp3r> instal*
[23:41] <a_> they were billed as "installers"
[23:41] <ReAp3r> tar.bz2
[23:41] <a_> i dunno command promts but i am smart if you tell me exactly (yeah tar and .run as well)
[23:41] <ReAp3r> you can do it from terminal
[23:41] <rav> a_: unpack the *.tar.bz2 there's probably instructions inside
[23:41] <a_> oh
[23:42] <a_> ok will do that thanks (see i am dum too xD)
[23:42] <ubuntu_> How can I restore the default rights of /home on my /dev/md0 mountet as /home?
[23:42] <ReAp3r> sudo tar -jxvf  file.tar.bz2 -C /dir
[23:42] <a_> lolol
[23:42] <rav> a_: i'd guess the *.run is a script to install, but that is just a guess
[23:42] <ReAp3r> rm file.tar.bz2
[23:42] <a_> ohy no wait
[23:42] <a_> the .runs will only open with text or "other app"
[23:43] <rav> a_: probably a shell script, then
[23:43] <ReAp3r> .run just ques it
[23:43] <a_> blank
[23:43] <a_> blank again
[23:43]  * ubuntu_ needs the /home default rights :(
[23:43] <ReAp3r> you shoiuld notice a substantial size difference
[23:43] <rav> ubuntu_: you mean permissions?
[23:44] <ubuntu_> Yes! Sorry rav!
[23:44] <ReAp3r> sudo -s
[23:44] <ubuntu_> Of course the permissons!
[23:44] <ReAp3r> and pass for root
[23:44] <a_> queues it?
[23:44] <ReAp3r> that sa pain with ubuntu
[23:44] <ReAp3r> no root shell
[23:44] <a_> ques it means hits it with a stick xD
[23:44] <ReAp3r> ;) Tuche salesman
[23:45] <a_> go explain pls pls
[23:45] <ReAp3r> the tar.bz2 file needs to be installed through terminal as far as i know with ubuntu
[23:45] <a_> whats that "terminal"? dos prompt or...?
[23:45] <ReAp3r> a_ - PM
[23:46] <rav> ubuntu_: drwxr-xr-x for my /home
[23:48] <yunosh> hi. after upgrading to 8.10/kde 4.1/the new adept i can no longer see the changelog of packages, neither in synaptic. how do i get this back?
[23:48] <ubuntu_> rav? chmod drwxr-xr-x for my /home?
[23:48] <rav> yunosh: i gave up on adept, i stick to aptitude
[23:48] <yunosh> yeah, it's pretty much a step back. i
[23:49] <rav> ubuntu_: why did the permissions get changed in the first place?
[23:49] <yunosh> and i didn't experience the developers as being helpful either
[23:49] <rav> yunosh: I saw potential on adept in kde 3.5.10. all gone for kde4
[23:50] <ubuntu_> rav: I had problems with my raid /dev/md0 (mirror). I saved all data on F32 :( Now all permissons are lost... .
[23:50] <yunosh> i'm glad that i'm not the only one
[23:54] <rav> ubuntu_: sudo chmod 755 /home
[23:55] <ubuntu_> drwxr-xr-x  = 755?
[23:56] <rav> ubuntu_: yes
[23:56] <ubuntu_> Okay. Thank you rav, I#ll try it out.
[23:57] <rav> ubuntu_: and for backups, i like to use tarballs. they preserve permissions
[23:57] <ubuntu_> Till yet I tried a lot! Also this combination I think.
[23:57] <ubuntu_> Ah! Cool rav! This what i didnt knowed :(.