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geserdoes somebody know why building a package with "configure --enable-scrollkeeper" works on Debian while on Ubuntu one needs the pass --disable-scrollkeeper to configure?09:25
seb128ubuntu is using rarian and debian not?09:27
geserdoesn't build-depending on scrollkeeper install scrollkeeper anymore?09:28
seb128geser: rarian-compat is similar so any of those can be used09:29
seb128lut huats09:29
huatshello seb12809:29
seb128geser: anyway why would you want to enable this configuration option when it's obviously not what you want? those updates should be done during the installation on the client box and not on the buildd09:30
geserseb128: I was looking at a FTBFS (gossip) where the error was due to a missing --disable-scrollkeeper and I saw in debian/rules that it called configure with --enable-scrollkeeper09:32
geserand looking at Debian build logs it builds there successfully09:33
seb128could be a buildd configuration difference too09:35
seb128doesn't really matter though, this option should not be used for debian builds since you don't want to index whatever is installed on the buildds09:35
geserso I should forward the Ubuntu delta to Debian?09:37
geserlool: ^^ what's your opinion on it as you are a co-maintainer of gossip?09:37
loolgeser: No idea why --enable-scrollkeeper was added09:43
loolIt's not documented why in the changelog09:43
loolgeser: rarian-compat provides scrollkeeper; does it fail to build under Ubuntu with rarian-compat or scrollkeeper?09:44
loolor both?09:44
geserlool: I don't have the build log anymore but it failed because it couldn't write in /var/lib/scrollkeeper (or similar) during the build09:47
loolgeser: Perpaps rarian-compat should be fixed?09:47
geserI'll try later (when I'm back at home) and check if it failed with scrollkeeper or rarian-compat09:49
mvoseb128: hey! what is the plan for gdm for jaunty (have we one ;) ? I ask because it would be nice if we would use hal to shutdown - then e.g. synaptic could inhibit a shutdown while its working09:59
seb128mvo: I would say it's time to switch to the new gdm now10:01
mvowill it use hal for shutdown?10:03
seb128mvo: it does10:05
mvoexcellent10:08
* mvo recently discovered the compiz now plugin and thinks its awsome10:39
mvo"snow"10:39
* mvo can't type10:39
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hggdhseb128, good morning (for me) afternoon (for you)13:29
seb128hggdh: hello13:29
hggdhseb128, re. bug 205999 -- latest fix has some issues on backporting to Hardy13:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 205999 in evolution-data-server "Attachments names using "รง" are not correctly sent by Evolution (ATT<number>.dat)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20599913:30
seb128hggdh: I read your comments, why are glade changes required to fix an encoding issue?13:30
hggdhseb128, a new configuration option was added (so that the default behaviour will still be rfc2231-compliant)13:31
seb128we likely don't want changes which add UI changes and new strings to stable13:32
hggdhI did a make against trunk, and it works fine; I also built against Intrepid, and published it -- but I am really not sure about Hardy13:32
hggdhexactly13:32
seb128I would say to not bother doing an hardy backport for now, let's try to get that fixed in intrepid or jaunty first and we will see later if we want to backport the change13:33
hggdhon the other hand, the previous patch will work on Hardy (in a different way, and it will create wrong attachment filenames -- but they will be usable13:33
hggdhI agree, but I wanted your input on this (after all, experience counts!)13:34
seb128ideally microsoft would respect the standards13:35
seb128anyway we didn't get so many lts users requests for that and I'm not sure adding complex changes or half working changes is worth the trouble13:35
seb128let's get that tested in intrepid or jaunty13:35
hggdhI found a page on support.microsoft.com that states Outcrap 2007 will read rfc2231, but will not generate them13:35
hggdhseb128, k13:36
seb128thanks for your work on those13:36
seb128did you get any feedback on the other bugs about the sqlite migration on upgrade?13:36
hggdhwelcome. I am now waiting for field feedback on the Intrepid fix, but I will check upstream if they are going to commit the fix in time for us to use it now13:37
hggdhon the migration, the reporter commented upstream that it did not quite work. srag asked for the coder to look at it ASAP13:37
seb128ok13:38
hggdh(Sankar)13:38
hggdhseb128, glad to be able to help out a bit13:38
hggdhseb128, backporting to Hardy will not be a trivial change -- the glade interface was rewritten for 2.2413:39
seb128I doubt we will be wanting to backport UI changes anyway13:40
* hggdh agrees13:40
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mvoseb128: I looked at the eog bug you mentioned, this particular one seems to be a packages in really bad shape and update-manager seems to be unable to fix that16:09
seb128mvo: it has been duplicated since no? I think that was another case where the user sent duplicates over random packages due to an install issue16:09
* mvo nods16:11
pittiseb128: <flamewar gauntlet>so, my gthumb patch for fixing photo import was accepted within 24 hours, while it took weeks for f-spot (and still arguing about the remaining bit); I love gthumb! :-)16:44
* pitti hugs seb12816:44
seb128pitti: trolll!!!!16:45
* seb128 hugs pitti16:45
pitti(no worries, I'm just happy that it's upstream now)16:45
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mptDiscussion in irc.gnome.org #usability about rearranging the Sound preferences, if anyone is interested18:53
mpthttp://www.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-volume-control/Screenshot-Sound%20Preferences-1.png18:53
dobeyagain?18:58
dobeywhee18:58
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