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robbiewhi all...platform managers meeting running over a bit16:01
* slangasek waves and nods16:02
evandhi16:02
liwheippa16:03
cjwatsonagenda-wise, I think all that either Robbie or I have is an opportunity for people to discuss UDS planning in progress, which doesn't necessarily justify a meeting; does anyone have other business that would make it worth saying #startmeeting? :-)16:04
robbiew:)16:04
cjwatsonmerges seem to be going respectably well16:05
cjwatsonthough if anyone feels they need help there, they should shout ...16:05
liwis there anything in particular we should prepare for fosscamp?16:05
cjwatsonfosscamp is pretty much what you make of it16:06
cjwatsonif there's anything you want to discuss with the wider development community there, you'd be well advised to prepare in advance and be ready to grab timetable slots early16:06
cjwatsonbut nothing *in particular* as such ...16:06
* robbiew is all for skipping unnecessary meetings16:07
evand(When we're done talking about FOSSCamp, does anyone have an Intel Mac and a USB disk that they can overwrite?)16:07
robbiewoff the call16:07
robbiewsorry...only PPC Mac here16:08
cjwatsonevand: yes, if I can prise it out of my wife's clutches16:08
liwI have nothing further about fosscamp at this point16:08
evandcjwatson: I would greatly appreciate a test of a USB creator generated image with it16:09
evandjust booting16:09
cjwatsonsure16:09
evandI suspect it will fail miserably, but am writing documentation for the store and want to be sure16:09
evandthanks!16:09
robbiewanything else?16:11
* robbiew applies the 10 second rule 16:11
robbiewguess not...meeting over :)16:12
robbiewnext time I will have a formal agenda...sorry guys16:12
cjwatsonyep, all sounds quiet this week; hope that just means everyone is busy with jaunty :-)16:12
liwbah, now I put on a tie for this meeting, for nothing16:14
slangasek:)16:14
robbiewlol16:15
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arahello!16:59
pedro_hello everybody!17:00
bdmurrayhi17:00
* cgregan waves17:01
henohey!17:01
henobdmurray, pedro_, sbeattie: around?17:03
pedro_yes17:03
bdmurrayyep17:04
sbeattieI'm here, sorry; was getting caffienated.17:05
henoara: here?17:05
araheno: here!17:05
henoogasawara will be late and schwuk is travelling17:05
henostgraber is at lunch I guess :)17:06
heno#startmeeting17:06
MootBotMeeting started at 11:06. The chair is heno.17:06
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]17:06
henoagenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings17:06
henojust one item so far17:06
heno[TOPIC] UDS attendees17:07
MootBotNew Topic:  UDS attendees17:07
henoThere are QA members attending not in the public list yet. If you're attending the UDS, please add yourself to the public list of attendees at UDSJaunty/Attendees and LP at https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-jaunty17:07
pedro_nice to see mrooney on the list of attendees ;-)17:07
stgraberheno: yeah, I'll leave for lunch very soon17:07
arawell, the item is self-explanatory17:08
henoSo if you're attending and not listed, please add yourself17:08
heno[TOPIC] testing mini-sprint report17:09
MootBotNew Topic:  testing mini-sprint report17:09
henoI can give a brief report of that17:09
henoschwuk came down for two days of discussion (just left) where we had some pre-UDS talks around testing17:10
henowe talked about extensions to the checkbox tool, the hardware database, ISO mirrors and such17:11
henowe'll write that up and start on some spec topics17:11
henoogasawara and bdmurray: I believe you are sprinting too - how is that going?17:12
ogasawaraheno: we are just getting started17:12
cr3heno: how will those specs concern the community?17:13
bdmurrayheno: it's going well17:13
henocr3: yes17:13
cr3heno: when you say "hardware database", do you mean Launchpad?17:13
henocr3: right. Abel reported on progress on Monday's QA/LP call17:14
cr3heno: heh, "how will those..."17:14
henocr3: anything that goes into Ubuntu affects the community ...17:15
henowe are the community :)17:15
henowe talked about certification too but that's a bit off-topic here17:16
cr3heno: exactly, just checking17:16
cr3heno: is there a roadmap for Launchpad publicly available? is the hardware database on that roadmap?17:16
henook. any other topics?17:16
henoWe should go through a list of UDS topic ideas at next weeks meeting17:17
henowe usually track them here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs17:18
bdmurraywhere is the list of ideas again?17:18
araheno, I'll be on holiday. I will try to add ideas, before I leave, to the IdeasPool wiki page that schwuk provided17:18
arabdmurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/IdeaPool17:19
henothanks ara17:19
bdmurrayara: thanks17:19
henoany other business?17:19
cgreganI have an item17:20
sbeattieSRU testing; we made some progress on hardy SRUs, but there's still more that needs to be done17:20
sbeattiehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html17:20
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html17:20
sbeattiecgregan: go ahead17:20
cgreganI just posted to the QA mailing list a call for testing on Dell Mini 9. If you could help spread the word to groups outside of the QA mailing list that would be great17:20
bdmurraysbeattie: is there anyway to associate pending sru's with qa-regression-test tests?17:21
aracgregan: the hw program is a great way to motivate people ;-)17:21
cgreganara: yes...that will require some resources from Dell to agree, but we are working on it17:22
pedro_cgregan: perhaps, blog about it on planet? it'd have more audience17:24
cgreganpedro_: yes...bdmurray just suggested that here as well.....will do17:24
henocgregan: ok, we'll see how that goes - scaling this to multiple devices will be interesting17:24
sbeattiebdmurray: do you mean identifying which packages with an sru pending that also have tests in qa-regression-test or correlating srus with specific testcases in the test suite? Neither are done now (usually) but both are good ideas.17:24
cgreganheno: I agree17:24
cgreganheno: and a bit scary ;-)17:25
bdmurraysbeattie: I was thinking about the former as a reminder to people that they exist and should be run.17:25
henoon SRUs> I intended to participate more in the testing day than I managed to17:26
henosbeattie: did it pick up at all later in the day?17:26
sbeattieheno: I think that's true of a lot of people.17:26
sbeattieheno: not that I saw17:26
henoperhaps a general call is not focused enough - perhaps we should blog about a few items that need testing17:28
sbeattiethough people may have been busy testing and not chattering on #ubuntu-testing; a fair number have gotten processed.17:28
araheno, sbeattie: it was announced with less than a week of advance17:29
araheno, sbeattie: and testing days are not yet popular, that people are actually waiting for them17:30
henotrue17:30
sbeattieara: BTW, thanks for both setting up the wiki page for it and for blogging about it.17:30
arasbeattie: np :-)17:31
henosbeattie: how was the openweek session?17:31
henoany interest there?17:31
henoperhaps it's worth blogging the walk-through of a few individual verifications?17:32
sbeattiehard to gauge; didn't get much in the way of questions, so perhaps not.17:32
sbeattieheno: yeah, either blogging it or detailing a walkthrough on a wiki page.17:33
sbeattieanother option would be to do it in a screencapture and then post a movie somewhere.17:33
bdmurraysbeattie: maybe listing done sru's somewhere and acknowledging the verifier would help17:33
henosbeattie: ok, let's talk about those options on Friday17:34
henoany other items?17:34
sbeattiebdmurray: yeah! that's an excellent point, though a bit tricky to strictly identify the verifier (since it's usually just reported via a free-form comment)17:34
bdmurraysbeattie: yeah, I was just thinking about how to identify verifiers17:36
henoWe had an LP skype call on Monday where stgraber participated - we would love to have more people from the community along next time!17:37
sbeattiecgregan: one of the questions I did get after the openweek session was about a lack of progress in SRUs/updates for dell mini 9 users.17:38
henoplease sign up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/LaunchpadBugsUbuntuQAMeeting17:38
henook, let's wrap up17:38
cgregansbeattie: intersting....can you email me a synopsis?17:38
henothanks everyone!17:38
heno#endmeeting17:39
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:39.17:39
arathanks, bye!17:39
BB-wolfdid I miss the meeting?18:14
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bdmurrayBB-wolf: the qa team one yes18:31
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