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[07:04] <advizor> hi all
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[16:01] <robbiew> hi all...platform managers meeting running over a bit
[16:02]  * slangasek waves and nods
[16:02] <evand> hi
[16:03] <liw> heippa
[16:04] <cjwatson> agenda-wise, I think all that either Robbie or I have is an opportunity for people to discuss UDS planning in progress, which doesn't necessarily justify a meeting; does anyone have other business that would make it worth saying #startmeeting? :-)
[16:04] <robbiew> :)
[16:05] <cjwatson> merges seem to be going respectably well
[16:05] <cjwatson> though if anyone feels they need help there, they should shout ...
[16:05] <liw> is there anything in particular we should prepare for fosscamp?
[16:06] <cjwatson> fosscamp is pretty much what you make of it
[16:06] <cjwatson> if there's anything you want to discuss with the wider development community there, you'd be well advised to prepare in advance and be ready to grab timetable slots early
[16:06] <cjwatson> but nothing *in particular* as such ...
[16:07]  * robbiew is all for skipping unnecessary meetings
[16:07] <evand> (When we're done talking about FOSSCamp, does anyone have an Intel Mac and a USB disk that they can overwrite?)
[16:07] <robbiew> off the call
[16:08] <robbiew> sorry...only PPC Mac here
[16:08] <cjwatson> evand: yes, if I can prise it out of my wife's clutches
[16:08] <liw> I have nothing further about fosscamp at this point
[16:09] <evand> cjwatson: I would greatly appreciate a test of a USB creator generated image with it
[16:09] <evand> just booting
[16:09] <cjwatson> sure
[16:09] <evand> I suspect it will fail miserably, but am writing documentation for the store and want to be sure
[16:09] <evand> thanks!
[16:11] <robbiew> anything else?
[16:11]  * robbiew applies the 10 second rule 
[16:12] <robbiew> guess not...meeting over :)
[16:12] <robbiew> next time I will have a formal agenda...sorry guys
[16:12] <cjwatson> yep, all sounds quiet this week; hope that just means everyone is busy with jaunty :-)
[16:14] <liw> bah, now I put on a tie for this meeting, for nothing
[16:14] <slangasek> :)
[16:15] <robbiew> lol
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[16:59] <ara> hello!
[17:00] <pedro_> hello everybody!
[17:00] <bdmurray> hi
[17:01]  * cgregan waves
[17:01] <heno> hey!
[17:03] <heno> bdmurray, pedro_, sbeattie: around?
[17:03] <pedro_> yes
[17:04] <bdmurray> yep
[17:05] <sbeattie> I'm here, sorry; was getting caffienated.
[17:05] <heno> ara: here?
[17:05] <ara> heno: here!
[17:05] <heno> ogasawara will be late and schwuk is travelling
[17:06] <heno> stgraber is at lunch I guess :)
[17:06] <heno> #startmeeting
[17:06] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:06. The chair is heno.
[17:06] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:06] <heno> agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[17:06] <heno> just one item so far
[17:07] <heno> [TOPIC] UDS attendees
[17:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  UDS attendees
[17:07] <heno> There are QA members attending not in the public list yet. If you're attending the UDS, please add yourself to the public list of attendees at UDSJaunty/Attendees and LP at https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-jaunty
[17:07] <pedro_> nice to see mrooney on the list of attendees ;-)
[17:07] <stgraber> heno: yeah, I'll leave for lunch very soon
[17:08] <ara> well, the item is self-explanatory
[17:08] <heno> So if you're attending and not listed, please add yourself
[17:09] <heno> [TOPIC] testing mini-sprint report
[17:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  testing mini-sprint report
[17:09] <heno> I can give a brief report of that
[17:10] <heno> schwuk came down for two days of discussion (just left) where we had some pre-UDS talks around testing
[17:11] <heno> we talked about extensions to the checkbox tool, the hardware database, ISO mirrors and such
[17:11] <heno> we'll write that up and start on some spec topics
[17:12] <heno> ogasawara and bdmurray: I believe you are sprinting too - how is that going?
[17:12] <ogasawara> heno: we are just getting started
[17:13] <cr3> heno: how will those specs concern the community?
[17:13] <bdmurray> heno: it's going well
[17:13] <heno> cr3: yes
[17:13] <cr3> heno: when you say "hardware database", do you mean Launchpad?
[17:14] <heno> cr3: right. Abel reported on progress on Monday's QA/LP call
[17:14] <cr3> heno: heh, "how will those..."
[17:15] <heno> cr3: anything that goes into Ubuntu affects the community ...
[17:15] <heno> we are the community :)
[17:16] <heno> we talked about certification too but that's a bit off-topic here
[17:16] <cr3> heno: exactly, just checking
[17:16] <cr3> heno: is there a roadmap for Launchpad publicly available? is the hardware database on that roadmap?
[17:16] <heno> ok. any other topics?
[17:17] <heno> We should go through a list of UDS topic ideas at next weeks meeting
[17:18] <heno> we usually track them here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs
[17:18] <bdmurray> where is the list of ideas again?
[17:18] <ara> heno, I'll be on holiday. I will try to add ideas, before I leave, to the IdeasPool wiki page that schwuk provided
[17:19] <ara> bdmurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/IdeaPool
[17:19] <heno> thanks ara
[17:19] <bdmurray> ara: thanks
[17:19] <heno> any other business?
[17:20] <cgregan> I have an item
[17:20] <sbeattie> SRU testing; we made some progress on hardy SRUs, but there's still more that needs to be done
[17:20] <sbeattie> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[17:20] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[17:20] <sbeattie> cgregan: go ahead
[17:20] <cgregan> I just posted to the QA mailing list a call for testing on Dell Mini 9. If you could help spread the word to groups outside of the QA mailing list that would be great
[17:21] <bdmurray> sbeattie: is there anyway to associate pending sru's with qa-regression-test tests?
[17:21] <ara> cgregan: the hw program is a great way to motivate people ;-)
[17:22] <cgregan> ara: yes...that will require some resources from Dell to agree, but we are working on it
[17:24] <pedro_> cgregan: perhaps, blog about it on planet? it'd have more audience
[17:24] <cgregan> pedro_: yes...bdmurray just suggested that here as well.....will do
[17:24] <heno> cgregan: ok, we'll see how that goes - scaling this to multiple devices will be interesting
[17:24] <sbeattie> bdmurray: do you mean identifying which packages with an sru pending that also have tests in qa-regression-test or correlating srus with specific testcases in the test suite? Neither are done now (usually) but both are good ideas.
[17:24] <cgregan> heno: I agree
[17:25] <cgregan> heno: and a bit scary ;-)
[17:25] <bdmurray> sbeattie: I was thinking about the former as a reminder to people that they exist and should be run.
[17:26] <heno> on SRUs> I intended to participate more in the testing day than I managed to
[17:26] <heno> sbeattie: did it pick up at all later in the day?
[17:26] <sbeattie> heno: I think that's true of a lot of people.
[17:26] <sbeattie> heno: not that I saw
[17:28] <heno> perhaps a general call is not focused enough - perhaps we should blog about a few items that need testing
[17:28] <sbeattie> though people may have been busy testing and not chattering on #ubuntu-testing; a fair number have gotten processed.
[17:29] <ara> heno, sbeattie: it was announced with less than a week of advance
[17:30] <ara> heno, sbeattie: and testing days are not yet popular, that people are actually waiting for them
[17:30] <heno> true
[17:30] <sbeattie> ara: BTW, thanks for both setting up the wiki page for it and for blogging about it.
[17:31] <ara> sbeattie: np :-)
[17:31] <heno> sbeattie: how was the openweek session?
[17:31] <heno> any interest there?
[17:32] <heno> perhaps it's worth blogging the walk-through of a few individual verifications?
[17:32] <sbeattie> hard to gauge; didn't get much in the way of questions, so perhaps not.
[17:33] <sbeattie> heno: yeah, either blogging it or detailing a walkthrough on a wiki page.
[17:33] <sbeattie> another option would be to do it in a screencapture and then post a movie somewhere.
[17:33] <bdmurray> sbeattie: maybe listing done sru's somewhere and acknowledging the verifier would help
[17:34] <heno> sbeattie: ok, let's talk about those options on Friday
[17:34] <heno> any other items?
[17:34] <sbeattie> bdmurray: yeah! that's an excellent point, though a bit tricky to strictly identify the verifier (since it's usually just reported via a free-form comment)
[17:36] <bdmurray> sbeattie: yeah, I was just thinking about how to identify verifiers
[17:37] <heno> We had an LP skype call on Monday where stgraber participated - we would love to have more people from the community along next time!
[17:38] <sbeattie> cgregan: one of the questions I did get after the openweek session was about a lack of progress in SRUs/updates for dell mini 9 users.
[17:38] <heno> please sign up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/LaunchpadBugsUbuntuQAMeeting
[17:38] <heno> ok, let's wrap up
[17:38] <cgregan> sbeattie: intersting....can you email me a synopsis?
[17:38] <heno> thanks everyone!
[17:39] <heno> #endmeeting
[17:39] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:39.
[17:39] <ara> thanks, bye!
[18:14] <BB-wolf> did I miss the meeting?
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[18:31] <bdmurray> BB-wolf: the qa team one yes
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[23:25] <emgent> @schedule
[23:25] <ubottu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Platform Team 13 Nov 12:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 13 Nov 13:00: Desktop Team | 13 Nov 14:00: Ubuntu Java | 18 Nov 02:00: Americas Regional Board | 18 Nov 11:00: Community Council
[23:25] <emgent> @schedule rome
[23:25] <ubottu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: Current meeting: Platform Team 13 Nov 13:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 13 Nov 14:00: Desktop Team | 13 Nov 15:00: Ubuntu Java | 18 Nov 03:00: Americas Regional Board | 18 Nov 12:00: Community Council
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