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jerky_2so i'm having some performance problems on my myth box. i'm running mythbuntu 8.10 now but the problem was there on 8.04 too. my box will be running fine (frontend, backend, even mythcommflag sometimes) and then all of a sudden it starts stuttering pretty badly for a few seconds. it doesn't seem to happen at any specific interval...01:21
jerky_2but when i take a look at the 'top' output, it always corresponds with 'mysqld' jumping up the CPU usage column. when it drops off the top CPU users the performance problems are gone. any ideas for what could be wrong or how to troubleshoot this?01:21
jerky_2mysqld runs as the mysql user whereas mythfrontend runs as my user and mythbackend (+other stuff) runs as the mythtv user01:22
jerky_2it seems like the mysqld process just starves the CPU because otherwise the machine performs fine01:23
jerky_2just wondering if anyone else has tweaked their MySQL configuration at all... i tried running optimize_mythdb.pl but that didn't seem to help01:23
MythbuntuGuest59!help03:07
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MythbuntuGuest59i have installed mythbuntu 8.10 with a HVR-1600, i'm able to scan de channel, but when i try to watch tv i got a blank screen, and the system seem to freez, i need to push ESC many times, to be able to exit the frontend.03:09
MythbuntuGuest31how do i add my user to the myth tv group so i can access all the files?03:48
MythbuntuGuest31within mythbuntu03:49
tritiumMythbuntuGuest31: sudo adduser <username> <group>03:49
MythbuntuGuest31tritium thank u , do u know how to search what groups are available?03:54
tritiumMythbuntuGuest31: they are listed in /etc/group03:54
MythbuntuGuest31tritium> do u also know why it takes almost 20 minutes to boot up while it says loading desktop ? b4 it used to boot up in about 4-5 mins03:54
scotepihello, i just installed, there was a option for TV out that i didn't set. id like to set it now without reinstalling04:23
tritiumMythbuntuGuest31: I've never seen it take 20 minutes to boot.04:23
scotepii cant find the option in anything in the application menu04:23
scotepianyone?04:31
jerky_2scotepi, check in mythtv-setup 's options, or in mythfrontend's setup options... there should be output options in there somewhere04:48
rhpot1991scotepi: it would help if you described your hardware a little04:51
scotepimy video card is a radio 9200, im trying to use the svideo out04:56
scotepithere was a option on inital install, one of the 15 mythbuntu screen04:57
scotepibut right now im trying to figure out why firewire isnt working04:57
scotepior i guess ssh too since it was enabled, but its unconectable04:58
scotepinm on ssh05:01
rhpot1991!firewire | scotepi05:03
Zinnscotepi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire05:03
rhpot1991WARNING: firewire can be a pain :(05:03
scotepiit worked fine on my MBP05:03
scotepiso i know my box works05:03
scotepiim watching for it to display active on my cable box05:03
scotepilol at all the "to be continued... "05:05
scotepimyth prime give "0 stbs primed, 0 non-stbs ignored and 0 ghost nodes skipped on 0 ports."05:13
rhpot1991scotepi: what version of mythprime?05:16
scotepi0.55b05:21
scotepii dont see my firewire card in lspci05:21
scotepiwhere is05:22
rhpot1991scotepi: well thats something you need to work out first, after that you can get the latest firewire programs from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/majoridiot05:22
scotepiwhat /usr/src is the main kernel? and where does it go after compile05:22
scotepioh nice, i cant even makemenuconfig05:24
renjithHi all is there a channel named myth-use?05:28
renjithwhat is the exat channel name?05:28
rhpot1991renjith: you mean #mythtv-users ?05:30
renjithyes thanks05:30
MythbuntuGuest06can anyone tell me how to add my username to the mythbuntu myth group so i can view all the media files while logged in as myself?06:17
MythbuntuGuest99can anyone help me check my wireless settings? everything was working fine. and now i dont see a icon in the task manager for wireless and i can't seem to connect my mythbuntu laptop to y router to get online06:32
MythbuntuGuest99is there any network manager where i can put in my wireless settings?06:33
MythbuntuGuest99can anyone tell me how to run network manager please? i'm a total noob06:39
superm1its running by default normally06:41
superm1it should be in your task bar06:41
superm1as an icon with two computers on it, or one computer and an x06:41
MythbuntuGuest99its not in the task bar i've tried to add it but its not on the list06:41
superm1is it installed?06:42
Davieysuperm1: hmm... not on this fresh install of mythbuntu intrepid...06:42
superm1look in synaptic for network-manager-gnome06:42
superm1Daviey, wha?06:42
Daviey(diskless), /me tries main one06:42
MythbuntuGuest99network manager gnome installed in snaptic06:42
superm1diskless is far different in terms of this stuff06:42
superm1MythbuntuGuest99, then check if nm-applet is running06:43
superm1that's the network applet.  if so, check for the NetworkManager service06:43
MythbuntuGuest99suprm1 > i'm not sure how to check that06:43
Davieysuperm1: aye, it is there on a fresh intrepid main - but not diskless06:43
MythbuntuGuest99i just installed mythbuntu yesterday, and it seems like i was able to check the icons and make changes and everything06:43
MythbuntuGuest99rebooted today and everythign was gone06:43
superm1MythbuntuGuest99, well if you've got nothing invested on this yet, the easiest solution is a reinstall :)06:44
superm1however if you want to poke around, what did you change?06:44
MythbuntuGuest99on a side note - am i able to view the media (music, videos) thru one of the file managers ? or can i only view them under the myth front end?06:45
MythbuntuGuest99i've not changed anything, had to relocate the laptop so i just did a restart and the 2 computers icon top right , was gone06:45
superm1sure you can browse files in the file manager if you want06:47
superm1well surely something changed, does it come back possibly after another reboot?06:47
superm1jsut a one off problem06:47
MythbuntuGuest99one reboot didn't fix it, but i just rebooted once more for the hell of it, and it worked06:48
superm1there ya go :)06:48
MythbuntuGuest99the music i add via my other computers on to the share on mythbuntu, i can browse those files from other computers on the network. but i can't seem to browse them whiel on the mythbuntu laptop06:49
MythbuntuGuest99when i try to access the mythtv directory nothing comes up06:49
superm1its /var/lib/mythtv/music by default i think06:50
MythbuntuGuest99ok thanks06:52
MythbuntuGuest99i'll try it out06:52
MythbuntuGuest99appreciate ur time06:52
superm1no prob, good luck06:54
tgm4883_laptopDaviey, ping07:03
Davieytgm4883_laptop: o/07:09
MythbuntuGuest69hi all07:10
spoky99_hi all15:13
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spoky99someone know how to set mythwelcome for make it work whit nvram-wakeup?15:14
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spoky99someone know how to set mythwelcome for make it work whit nvram-wakeup?15:15
spoky99in the 8.10 mythwelcome came whit new config line, and I don't found nothing about it :(15:16
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superm1spoky99, if you dont see too much luck in here, you might consider posting at the forums instead15:26
superm1!forums | spoky9915:26
Zinnspoky99: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.15:26
spoky99thank15:29
IXian-PrHi, I got a quick question about mythbuntu. Is there any build of mythbuntu that's capable of living on a ~1GB flash disk?15:34
superm1for a frontend or backend?15:34
IXian-Prfor example, backend only?15:34
superm1it will be a tight fit15:35
superm1if you can splurge a little, 2gb will be better15:35
IXian-Prof course, storage of video has to be networked or on a separate disc. ^_^15:35
superm1right15:35
spoky99i€x€15:35
IXian-PrWell, I'm just curious since I got a spare 1GB flash and a EPIA MII lying around ;)15:35
IXian-Pr(And a bootable IDE2flash connector)15:36
superm1i think the default backend only install will still be bigger than 1gb, but you can probably remove a few things from it to free up soem more space15:36
superm1i'd say experiment a little in a VM15:36
IXian-Prok, well. thanks :)15:36
spoky99IXian-Pr: the problem with flash disk is that they are projected for a limited write an rewrite..15:36
IXian-Prthis is the adivce I wanted. :)15:37
spoky99IXian-Pr: You risk to damage the flash disk ad lost your data15:37
IXian-Prspoky99: mhm, thanks. :)15:38
IXian-PrGot to go, c'ya on the great intertubes :)15:38
spoky99IXian-Pr: you could make it using the flash disk only for reading and not.. for writing15:39
spoky99opss.. he is going out :)15:39
jphillipI'd just splurge for a 4gb flash drive, they are cheap enough now15:39
jphillipmysql might be an issue there15:40
spoky99I heard of some taiwan flash rom 4gb for 13€ :D15:40
jphillipI got mine for $20 something I think15:41
jphillipthey are pretty cheap anymore15:42
spoky99jphillip: yes I talked about take it directly from taiwan :D15:44
spoky99someone know how to set mythwelcome for make it work whit nvram-wakeup?16:03
jphillip!forums | spoky9916:24
Zinnspoky99: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.16:24
spoky99Zinn: I post one tread about my question 4 day ago and... nobody reply me :D16:26
jphillipZinn is a bot, he wont respond :)16:28
spoky99jphillip: :D16:28
spoky99Umm someone know how to stop the automatic shutdown imposted into mythtv-setup?16:29
spoky99I put 15 sec of idle timeout16:29
spoky99and.. uncecked "block shutdown ..."16:30
spoky99and now I don't have the time to start the frontend :D16:30
spoky99and the computer goes in shutdown :D16:30
spoky99I'ts in loop mode :D16:31
toorimaplaning on doing the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, anything bugs I should now about? read something about problems with nvidia drivers?19:11
superm1if you have an older nvidia card yes there is no driver19:16
superm1if you have one that supports the 173 or 177 driver you are okayt19:16
toorimaGeForce 7300 GS19:18
toorimais that old or?19:18
jphillipsuperm1 is there a list of that somewhere that we can teach Zinn?19:18
superm1that's new enough i believe19:19
jphillipya that should be fine19:19
toorimacool thx19:19
superm1there is kinda a list on nvidia's webpage19:19
jphillipI have a 6800 that works fine with it19:19
superm1but there is a lot of overlap19:19
superm1and it's confused as heck19:19
jphillipwhat do people with old cards do in intrepid then, compile the driver themselves?19:19
toorimagonna backup up both root and /var/lib with partimage incase i run into trouble19:20
superm1jphillip, cry19:23
jphillipsuperm1 back in the day I used to compile ati driver from source and farm them out to some friends, was such a headache....19:26
superm1from source?19:26
superm1amd doesn't post source....19:26
jphilliperrrm, you know what I mean19:27
jphillipbuilt debian packages of them19:28
superm1oh, yeah that.19:28
jphillipwas back on debian sid for amd64 too19:28
superm1well these days the driver should be able to do --buildpkg Ubuntu sanely19:28
jphillipwas fun when xorg would break for a week after an upgrade19:29
fripperaI'm having trouble getting the EPG info attached to the right channel.....any ideas what I missed? I tried reseting the channel info with "mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates" but no luck19:54
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MythbuntuGuest83Hi all21:59
MythbuntuGuest83HDHomeRun, Network manager not starting fast enough.  I've tried the fixes from the forum to no avail.21:59
MythbuntuGuest83Can anyone point me to how to make DHCP not take over even if I change to manual network settings?22:00
jphillip!status22:03
ZinnI am alive.22:04
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fuxxyI just installed ubuntu version 8.10, and it seems the only version of mythtv included in the package manager is 0.21. My existing backend is running version 0.20, how can I install a the 0.20 frontend on this new box?22:43
superm1it's more difficult to do so then you'd think...22:54
superm1you are better off upgrading your backend (imo)22:55
fuxxy_superm1, well, I can't upgrade backend to 0.21, it's still masked in gentoo.22:58
fuxxy_all I need is frontend 0.20, and the one dep.22:58
superm1still? it's been out for almost a year....22:58
fuxxy_superm1, yeah, I don't understand either.22:58
superm1fuxxy_, let me ping the gentoo maintainer momentarily about that22:59
fuxxy_superm1, okay, thanks.23:00
superm1fuxxy_, well he's not responding right this moment.  hang around here for a couple of hours, whenever he responds i'll let you know.  that certainly doesn't seem right that it's still masked23:02
superm1fuxxy_, <Cardoe> superm1: No.23:04
superm1<Cardoe> superm1: It's not marked stable due to a file collision issue23:04
superm1<Cardoe> which was committed yesterday23:04
superm1<Cardoe> so the arch teams are in the process of marking it stable23:04
superm1* jgarvey has quit ("Leaving")23:04
superm1<Cardoe> however, the Gentoo documentation recommends you use unstable for MythTV anyway23:04
superm1fuxxy_, if you are having trouble, the maintainer told me to send you to #gentoo-mythtv23:04
tgm4883_laptopgentoo-mythtv23:06
tgm4883_laptopmythtoo?23:06
superm1yes tgm4883_laptop23:07
superm1mythtoo23:07
fuxxy_superm1, hmm. time to bite the bullet I guess.23:27
fuxxy_make the wifey mad :)23:27

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