[01:21] <jerky_2> so i'm having some performance problems on my myth box. i'm running mythbuntu 8.10 now but the problem was there on 8.04 too. my box will be running fine (frontend, backend, even mythcommflag sometimes) and then all of a sudden it starts stuttering pretty badly for a few seconds. it doesn't seem to happen at any specific interval...
[01:21] <jerky_2> but when i take a look at the 'top' output, it always corresponds with 'mysqld' jumping up the CPU usage column. when it drops off the top CPU users the performance problems are gone. any ideas for what could be wrong or how to troubleshoot this?
[01:22] <jerky_2> mysqld runs as the mysql user whereas mythfrontend runs as my user and mythbackend (+other stuff) runs as the mythtv user
[01:23] <jerky_2> it seems like the mysqld process just starves the CPU because otherwise the machine performs fine
[01:23] <jerky_2> just wondering if anyone else has tweaked their MySQL configuration at all... i tried running optimize_mythdb.pl but that didn't seem to help
[03:07] <MythbuntuGuest59> !help
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[03:09] <MythbuntuGuest59> i have installed mythbuntu 8.10 with a HVR-1600, i'm able to scan de channel, but when i try to watch tv i got a blank screen, and the system seem to freez, i need to push ESC many times, to be able to exit the frontend.
[03:48] <MythbuntuGuest31> how do i add my user to the myth tv group so i can access all the files?
[03:49] <MythbuntuGuest31> within mythbuntu
[03:49] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest31: sudo adduser <username> <group>
[03:54] <MythbuntuGuest31> tritium thank u , do u know how to search what groups are available?
[03:54] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest31: they are listed in /etc/group
[03:54] <MythbuntuGuest31> tritium> do u also know why it takes almost 20 minutes to boot up while it says loading desktop ? b4 it used to boot up in about 4-5 mins
[04:23] <scotepi> hello, i just installed, there was a option for TV out that i didn't set. id like to set it now without reinstalling
[04:23] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest31: I've never seen it take 20 minutes to boot.
[04:23] <scotepi> i cant find the option in anything in the application menu
[04:31] <scotepi> anyone?
[04:48] <jerky_2> scotepi, check in mythtv-setup 's options, or in mythfrontend's setup options... there should be output options in there somewhere
[04:51] <rhpot1991> scotepi: it would help if you described your hardware a little
[04:56] <scotepi> my video card is a radio 9200, im trying to use the svideo out
[04:57] <scotepi> there was a option on inital install, one of the 15 mythbuntu screen
[04:57] <scotepi> but right now im trying to figure out why firewire isnt working
[04:58] <scotepi> or i guess ssh too since it was enabled, but its unconectable
[05:01] <scotepi> nm on ssh
[05:03] <rhpot1991> !firewire | scotepi
[05:03] <Zinn> scotepi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire
[05:03] <rhpot1991> WARNING: firewire can be a pain :(
[05:03] <scotepi> it worked fine on my MBP
[05:03] <scotepi> so i know my box works
[05:03] <scotepi> im watching for it to display active on my cable box
[05:05] <scotepi> lol at all the "to be continued... "
[05:13] <scotepi> myth prime give "0 stbs primed, 0 non-stbs ignored and 0 ghost nodes skipped on 0 ports."
[05:16] <rhpot1991> scotepi: what version of mythprime?
[05:21] <scotepi> 0.55b
[05:21] <scotepi> i dont see my firewire card in lspci
[05:22] <scotepi> where is
[05:22] <rhpot1991> scotepi: well thats something you need to work out first, after that you can get the latest firewire programs from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/majoridiot
[05:22] <scotepi> what /usr/src is the main kernel? and where does it go after compile
[05:24] <scotepi> oh nice, i cant even makemenuconfig
[05:28] <renjith> Hi all is there a channel named myth-use?
[05:28] <renjith> what is the exat channel name?
[05:30] <rhpot1991> renjith: you mean #mythtv-users ?
[05:30] <renjith> yes thanks
[06:17] <MythbuntuGuest06> can anyone tell me how to add my username to the mythbuntu myth group so i can view all the media files while logged in as myself?
[06:32] <MythbuntuGuest99> can anyone help me check my wireless settings? everything was working fine. and now i dont see a icon in the task manager for wireless and i can't seem to connect my mythbuntu laptop to y router to get online
[06:33] <MythbuntuGuest99> is there any network manager where i can put in my wireless settings?
[06:39] <MythbuntuGuest99> can anyone tell me how to run network manager please? i'm a total noob
[06:41] <superm1> its running by default normally
[06:41] <superm1> it should be in your task bar
[06:41] <superm1> as an icon with two computers on it, or one computer and an x
[06:41] <MythbuntuGuest99> its not in the task bar i've tried to add it but its not on the list
[06:42] <superm1> is it installed?
[06:42] <Daviey> superm1: hmm... not on this fresh install of mythbuntu intrepid...
[06:42] <superm1> look in synaptic for network-manager-gnome
[06:42] <superm1> Daviey, wha?
[06:42] <Daviey> (diskless), /me tries main one
[06:42] <MythbuntuGuest99> network manager gnome installed in snaptic
[06:42] <superm1> diskless is far different in terms of this stuff
[06:43] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest99, then check if nm-applet is running
[06:43] <superm1> that's the network applet.  if so, check for the NetworkManager service
[06:43] <MythbuntuGuest99> suprm1 > i'm not sure how to check that
[06:43] <Daviey> superm1: aye, it is there on a fresh intrepid main - but not diskless
[06:43] <MythbuntuGuest99> i just installed mythbuntu yesterday, and it seems like i was able to check the icons and make changes and everything
[06:43] <MythbuntuGuest99> rebooted today and everythign was gone
[06:44] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest99, well if you've got nothing invested on this yet, the easiest solution is a reinstall :)
[06:44] <superm1> however if you want to poke around, what did you change?
[06:45] <MythbuntuGuest99> on a side note - am i able to view the media (music, videos) thru one of the file managers ? or can i only view them under the myth front end?
[06:45] <MythbuntuGuest99> i've not changed anything, had to relocate the laptop so i just did a restart and the 2 computers icon top right , was gone
[06:47] <superm1> sure you can browse files in the file manager if you want
[06:47] <superm1> well surely something changed, does it come back possibly after another reboot?
[06:47] <superm1> jsut a one off problem
[06:48] <MythbuntuGuest99> one reboot didn't fix it, but i just rebooted once more for the hell of it, and it worked
[06:48] <superm1> there ya go :)
[06:49] <MythbuntuGuest99> the music i add via my other computers on to the share on mythbuntu, i can browse those files from other computers on the network. but i can't seem to browse them whiel on the mythbuntu laptop
[06:49] <MythbuntuGuest99> when i try to access the mythtv directory nothing comes up
[06:50] <superm1> its /var/lib/mythtv/music by default i think
[06:52] <MythbuntuGuest99> ok thanks
[06:52] <MythbuntuGuest99> i'll try it out
[06:52] <MythbuntuGuest99> appreciate ur time
[06:54] <superm1> no prob, good luck
[07:03] <tgm4883_laptop> Daviey, ping
[07:09] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: o/
[07:10] <MythbuntuGuest69> hi all
[15:13] <spoky99_> hi all
[15:14] <spoky99> someone know how to set mythwelcome for make it work whit nvram-wakeup?
[15:15] <spoky99> someone know how to set mythwelcome for make it work whit nvram-wakeup?
[15:16] <spoky99> in the 8.10 mythwelcome came whit new config line, and I don't found nothing about it :(
[15:26] <superm1> spoky99, if you dont see too much luck in here, you might consider posting at the forums instead
[15:26] <superm1> !forums | spoky99
[15:26] <Zinn> spoky99: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[15:29] <spoky99> thank
[15:34] <IXian-Pr> Hi, I got a quick question about mythbuntu. Is there any build of mythbuntu that's capable of living on a ~1GB flash disk?
[15:34] <superm1> for a frontend or backend?
[15:34] <IXian-Pr> for example, backend only?
[15:35] <superm1> it will be a tight fit
[15:35] <superm1> if you can splurge a little, 2gb will be better
[15:35] <IXian-Pr> of course, storage of video has to be networked or on a separate disc. ^_^
[15:35] <superm1> right
[15:35] <spoky99> i€x€
[15:35] <IXian-Pr> Well, I'm just curious since I got a spare 1GB flash and a EPIA MII lying around ;)
[15:36] <IXian-Pr> (And a bootable IDE2flash connector)
[15:36] <superm1> i think the default backend only install will still be bigger than 1gb, but you can probably remove a few things from it to free up soem more space
[15:36] <superm1> i'd say experiment a little in a VM
[15:36] <IXian-Pr> ok, well. thanks :)
[15:36] <spoky99> IXian-Pr: the problem with flash disk is that they are projected for a limited write an rewrite..
[15:37] <IXian-Pr> this is the adivce I wanted. :)
[15:37] <spoky99> IXian-Pr: You risk to damage the flash disk ad lost your data
[15:38] <IXian-Pr> spoky99: mhm, thanks. :)
[15:38] <IXian-Pr> Got to go, c'ya on the great intertubes :)
[15:39] <spoky99> IXian-Pr: you could make it using the flash disk only for reading and not.. for writing
[15:39] <spoky99> opss.. he is going out :)
[15:39] <jphillip> I'd just splurge for a 4gb flash drive, they are cheap enough now
[15:40] <jphillip> mysql might be an issue there
[15:40] <spoky99> I heard of some taiwan flash rom 4gb for 13€ :D
[15:41] <jphillip> I got mine for $20 something I think
[15:42] <jphillip> they are pretty cheap anymore
[15:44] <spoky99> jphillip: yes I talked about take it directly from taiwan :D
[16:03] <spoky99> someone know how to set mythwelcome for make it work whit nvram-wakeup?
[16:24] <jphillip> !forums | spoky99
[16:24] <Zinn> spoky99: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[16:26] <spoky99> Zinn: I post one tread about my question 4 day ago and... nobody reply me :D
[16:28] <jphillip> Zinn is a bot, he wont respond :)
[16:28] <spoky99> jphillip: :D
[16:29] <spoky99> Umm someone know how to stop the automatic shutdown imposted into mythtv-setup?
[16:29] <spoky99> I put 15 sec of idle timeout
[16:30] <spoky99> and.. uncecked "block shutdown ..."
[16:30] <spoky99> and now I don't have the time to start the frontend :D
[16:30] <spoky99> and the computer goes in shutdown :D
[16:31] <spoky99> I'ts in loop mode :D
[19:11] <toorima> planing on doing the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, anything bugs I should now about? read something about problems with nvidia drivers?
[19:16] <superm1> if you have an older nvidia card yes there is no driver
[19:16] <superm1> if you have one that supports the 173 or 177 driver you are okayt
[19:18] <toorima> GeForce 7300 GS
[19:18] <toorima> is that old or?
[19:18] <jphillip> superm1 is there a list of that somewhere that we can teach Zinn?
[19:19] <superm1> that's new enough i believe
[19:19] <jphillip> ya that should be fine
[19:19] <toorima> cool thx
[19:19] <superm1> there is kinda a list on nvidia's webpage
[19:19] <jphillip> I have a 6800 that works fine with it
[19:19] <superm1> but there is a lot of overlap
[19:19] <superm1> and it's confused as heck
[19:19] <jphillip> what do people with old cards do in intrepid then, compile the driver themselves?
[19:20] <toorima> gonna backup up both root and /var/lib with partimage incase i run into trouble
[19:23] <superm1> jphillip, cry
[19:26] <jphillip> superm1 back in the day I used to compile ati driver from source and farm them out to some friends, was such a headache....
[19:26] <superm1> from source?
[19:26] <superm1> amd doesn't post source....
[19:27] <jphillip> errrm, you know what I mean
[19:28] <jphillip> built debian packages of them
[19:28] <superm1> oh, yeah that.
[19:28] <jphillip> was back on debian sid for amd64 too
[19:28] <superm1> well these days the driver should be able to do --buildpkg Ubuntu sanely
[19:29] <jphillip> was fun when xorg would break for a week after an upgrade
[19:54] <frippera> I'm having trouble getting the EPG info attached to the right channel.....any ideas what I missed? I tried reseting the channel info with "mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates" but no luck
[20:00] <frippera> !help
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[21:59] <MythbuntuGuest83> Hi all
[21:59] <MythbuntuGuest83> HDHomeRun, Network manager not starting fast enough.  I've tried the fixes from the forum to no avail.
[22:00] <MythbuntuGuest83> Can anyone point me to how to make DHCP not take over even if I change to manual network settings?
[22:03] <jphillip> !status
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[22:43] <fuxxy> I just installed ubuntu version 8.10, and it seems the only version of mythtv included in the package manager is 0.21. My existing backend is running version 0.20, how can I install a the 0.20 frontend on this new box?
[22:54] <superm1> it's more difficult to do so then you'd think...
[22:55] <superm1> you are better off upgrading your backend (imo)
[22:58] <fuxxy_> superm1, well, I can't upgrade backend to 0.21, it's still masked in gentoo.
[22:58] <fuxxy_> all I need is frontend 0.20, and the one dep.
[22:58] <superm1> still? it's been out for almost a year....
[22:58] <fuxxy_> superm1, yeah, I don't understand either.
[22:59] <superm1> fuxxy_, let me ping the gentoo maintainer momentarily about that
[23:00] <fuxxy_> superm1, okay, thanks.
[23:02] <superm1> fuxxy_, well he's not responding right this moment.  hang around here for a couple of hours, whenever he responds i'll let you know.  that certainly doesn't seem right that it's still masked
[23:04] <superm1> fuxxy_, <Cardoe> superm1: No.
 superm1: It's not marked stable due to a file collision issue
 which was committed yesterday
 so the arch teams are in the process of marking it stable
[23:04] <superm1> * jgarvey has quit ("Leaving")
 however, the Gentoo documentation recommends you use unstable for MythTV anyway
[23:04] <superm1> fuxxy_, if you are having trouble, the maintainer told me to send you to #gentoo-mythtv
[23:06] <tgm4883_laptop> gentoo-mythtv
[23:06] <tgm4883_laptop> mythtoo?
[23:07] <superm1> yes tgm4883_laptop
[23:07] <superm1> mythtoo
[23:27] <fuxxy_> superm1, hmm. time to bite the bullet I guess.
[23:27] <fuxxy_> make the wifey mad :)