| fryguy | 19:21:59 beli| Uplink: ask your external masterbrain......google | 00:21 |
|---|---|---|
| genii-around | That guy is annoying | 00:21 |
| genii-around | I get the feeling he's going to pop in everytime someone suggests to a user to google something | 00:22 |
| Pici | I just invited him, so hopefully he pops in sooner than that. | 00:22 |
| genii-around | Hehe | 00:22 |
| jdong | jeez did we give him trouble for JFGI or something? is he trying to be a smartass? | 00:23 |
| genii-around | He got a talking-to earlier about sending users off to pages he had just googled but had nothing to do with actual issue | 00:24 |
| jdong | ah. | 00:24 |
| genii-around | I think something like xammp install when someone wanted LAMP or so | 00:25 |
| Pici | Indeed. | 00:25 |
| genii-around | Pici: I'm contemplating spuriously recommending to him to use his google-fu, then watch him come here to quote me and leave.... ;) | 00:49 |
| genii-around | Pici: I frankly think he lies about the problem he supposedly has audio-wise | 01:08 |
| Pici | genii-around: I haven't been watching, I thought he had an aTI issiue | 01:08 |
| genii-around | Maybe his problem keeps changing depending upon his whim (is my suspicion) | 01:09 |
| genii-around | Interesting. "kubuntu-members-kde4" sounds intriguing | 02:15 |
| nalioth | in what context? | 02:29 |
| genii-around | nalioth: In the sense that it's a distribution according to the bot | 02:31 |
| genii-around | !info somepackagename somedist | 02:31 |
| ubottu | somedist is not a valid distribution ['intrepid', 'medibuntu', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid-backports', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'feisty-backports', 'dapper', 'feisty'] | 02:31 |
| genii-around | ^ | 02:31 |
| Flannel | I guess that'd be the PPA | 02:32 |
| Pici | Probably. | 02:33 |
| genii-around | @login | 03:45 |
| ubottu | Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong. | 03:45 |
| genii-around | Weird | 03:45 |
| === genii-around is now known as genii | ||
| genii | @login | 03:46 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 03:46 |
| mneptok | You are now female. | 03:46 |
| genii | Apparently | 03:46 |
| * mneptok perks up | 03:47 | |
| mneptok | boobies? | 03:47 |
| genii | mneptok: No. http://hwcmembersgallery.katink.net/albums/userpics/normal_P1010019.JPG | 03:48 |
| genii | Although I am somewhat more clean-shaven today | 03:49 |
| mneptok | can i sleep in your beard during the cold Quebec winter? | 03:49 |
| mneptok | please? so ... cold .... | 03:49 |
| genii | Hehe, sure. I'll mail it to you | 03:49 |
| tritium | genii: is that a Unix beard? | 03:50 |
| mneptok | tritium: if you can pipe its output to your back and shoulders, not only is it Unix, but also Italian. | 03:51 |
| genii | tritium: Not particularly. Although that night I WAS working on a FreeBSD problem (and the box behind is, yes, <shudder> running XP before anyone asks) | 03:51 |
| tritium | :) | 03:51 |
| * mneptok pats his vintage Mac Quadra 605 running OpenBSD | 03:52 | |
| mneptok | makes a nice monitor stand here at the office :) | 03:52 |
| genii | The machine on left btw is running headless Debian Sarge | 03:52 |
| mneptok | that sounds like a GI Joe model name | 03:53 |
| genii | Yes, the one nasty sister rips head out of for retaliation of beheading the Barbies.... | 03:53 |
| mneptok | "Walkie talkie accessory not for use with this model" | 03:54 |
| genii | mneptok: You're pleasantly twisted :) | 03:54 |
| Flannel | ubottu: tell BrantlyM about away | 04:01 |
| mneptok | genii: O:) | 04:07 |
| nickrud | genii, it's nice to see some grey in someone else's hair here ;) | 04:10 |
| genii | nickrud: Yes, I'm old and decrepit :) | 04:11 |
| * mneptok too | 04:11 | |
| nickrud | mneptok, I think you were born old (and twisted, the jury's still out on pleasant ;) | 04:12 |
| * genii hands out coffee to the old fogeys club | 04:12 | |
| mneptok | nickrud: the year was nineteen-dikkety-three ... | 04:12 |
| nickrud | unanimous opinion on entertaining though | 04:12 |
| mneptok | "entertaining" in that "ooo! slow down! car accident!" kinda way. | 04:13 |
| nickrud | ah, a true example | 04:14 |
| nickrud | a better one might be: "Marge, the kid's eating the dog poop again" | 04:17 |
| mneptok | PETA and the ASPCA have i asked i refrain from self-analogies referencing animals | 04:29 |
| nickrud | fascist killjoys | 04:30 |
| === genii-around is now known as genii | ||
| mneptok | down there they're rounding a posse to ride. | 04:58 |
| genii | "down there" ? | 04:59 |
| === vorian is now known as heHATEme | ||
| Tm_T | genii: you dont want to know | 05:43 |
| genii | Probably not | 05:45 |
| nickrud | reminds me of the movies where the pretty young girl just *has* to open the door | 05:46 |
| ajmitch | hi | 06:27 |
| ubottu | StevenK called the ops in #ubuntu-motu () | 06:28 |
| Daviey | !ops | ^ | 06:30 |
| ubottu | ^: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! | 06:30 |
| ubottu | Daviey called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (^) | 06:30 |
| ajmitch | and most ops can't help in there | 06:31 |
| Flannel | Unfortunately not | 06:31 |
| nickrud | I'm useless, but it seems dead at the moment. Dropped in and out | 06:31 |
| Flannel | nickrud: Some guy spammed... like 50 lines in some other language | 06:31 |
| Flannel | nickrud: anlmal, that is. | 06:32 |
| nickrud | is just now, again | 06:32 |
| Flannel | Oh, and here we go again | 06:32 |
| * Hobbsee wave | 06:33 | |
| nickrud | lovely lady! | 06:33 |
| Hobbsee | anlmal is continuing to be a SOB. | 06:33 |
| Hobbsee | wonder how I block ctcp's | 06:34 |
| Hobbsee | Ah, good to see limcore's trying to create trouble again, too. | 06:36 |
| Flannel | ubottu: tell |Chrizz|AFK about afk | 06:36 |
| Hobbsee | hmm, the ctcp's stopped | 06:36 |
| * genii sips | 06:53 | |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, orly? where? | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: pm | 06:57 |
| elkbuntu | yours? | 06:57 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 06:59 |
| Hobbsee | he's gone now, it seems. | 06:59 |
| Tm_T | hmh, I hope I don't have to poke st affers soon | 08:20 |
| elkbuntu | for what? | 08:25 |
| elkbuntu | k stuff? | 08:25 |
| Tm_T | some racism and stuff | 08:27 |
| Tm_T | in non-ubuntu channels though but anyway | 08:28 |
| ikonia | morning | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | ah, K-lined already (once) | 08:29 |
| ziroday | You might want to watch Craig_Whitnall | 11:48 |
| ziroday | he's completely offtopic in #ubuntu and is veering towards saying something inappropriate | 11:49 |
| ziroday | or giving bad advice | 11:49 |
| Tm_T | anyone taking? | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 11:50 |
| ziroday | Hobbsee: thanks :) | 11:50 |
| ziroday | bye | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | cya | 11:50 |
| Tm_T | good, so I can go to see my wife, she's waiting our first to come out any day now | 11:50 |
| LjL | oooh abortd | 12:51 |
| LjL | the memories | 12:51 |
| === heHATEme is now known as vorian | ||
| LjL | !vmware | 12:57 |
| ubottu | VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers | 12:57 |
| LjL | !no vmware is <reply> VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware | 12:57 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that LjL | 12:57 |
| LjL | feisty is eol | 12:58 |
| jrib | please write a factoid about dividing #ubuntu | 12:58 |
| Pici | jrib: I was just thinking of it | 12:58 |
| LjL | jrib: someone's proposed that again? | 12:58 |
| LjL | how boring | 12:58 |
| LjL | BrantlyM claims his Hardy default x-chat causes him noisy away messages in #ubuntu. he must have something weird installed, because my x-chat definitely doesn't do that | 13:15 |
| LjL | any clue where to look? i'm not familiar with x-chat | 13:16 |
| LjL | nevermind, he found it himself, i think. | 13:16 |
| ikonia | be aware El_gato_xD is online (he was the virus_bot guy) and is trying to get back into channels to invite people to his new bot channel | 13:25 |
| LjL | ikonia: how do you know he's trying to get back? | 13:26 |
| ikonia | LjL he's inviting me to his channel like 100 times, and messaging me asking how to get back, and saying oh, he's already in | 13:27 |
| ikonia | I'll re-phrase that, he's giving the impression of trying to get in | 13:28 |
| LjL | ikonia: he's also online as spider48014 | 13:30 |
| ikonia | thats his "mate" who shares the same wirless router | 13:31 |
| ikonia | he uses it as a threat to stop you banning him (bad call) | 13:31 |
| Tm_T | ikonia: LjL: shouldn't he have some K-love? | 14:57 |
| Tm_T | IMO | 14:57 |
| ikonia | for me yes | 14:57 |
| ikonia | the virus_bot scam he was trying to do was enough to remove | 14:57 |
| Tm_T | IMO it's enough to K-line on sight -tag for him | 14:58 |
| LjL | that's not up to me. | 15:17 |
| Tm_T | I know | 15:17 |
| Tm_T | just kinda asking opinion | 15:17 |
| LjL | my answer to that would be "yes" more often than freenode would like. | 15:26 |
| Tm_T | heh | 15:27 |
| ikonia | he's attempting to black mail me now saying he'll only stop messaging me nad inviting me to his channel if I let him back into #ubuntu | 15:32 |
| ikonia | I'll just pass it to freenode now | 15:32 |
| ikonia | nalioth: PriceChild SportChick christel give me a nudge when your free please | 15:36 |
| ikonia | or any otehr staff member that I missed | 15:37 |
| LjL | ikonia: !staff | 15:37 |
| ikonia | seemed a bit over the top, I'm not in any hurry, however I'm aware I've just highlighted people which is the same effect, so doh | 15:38 |
| LjL | Pici: it's *certainly* a bad idea to install it, but doesn't that mean we should reopen +1 | 15:52 |
| Pici | LjL: Get out of my brain | 15:52 |
| nalioth | ikonia: nudge | 15:53 |
| ikonia | vorian picked it up | 15:53 |
| ikonia | thank you though | 15:53 |
| ikonia | nalioth: the virus_bot guy is back | 15:53 |
| nalioth | ikonia: noted | 16:03 |
| ikonia | vorian was on the job, thanks vorian | 16:03 |
| LjL | !jaunty | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA | 16:06 |
| LjL | !no jaunty is <reply> Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion. | 16:07 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that LjL | 16:07 |
| Pici | LjL: The forums have opened their Jaunty subforum, for the crazies that want to try it now, it sort of makes sense for us to open the channel too. | 16:08 |
| LjL | Pici: are you saying that if jdong does something foolish, then we should do the same? we'd already be doomed that way. | 16:08 |
| jdong | :D | 16:10 |
| Tm_T | LjL: why speaking in future tense (?) | 16:11 |
| LjL | Tm_T: also true | 16:11 |
| ikonia | Pici crazy / silly people who think that a bigger version number = better even at this point | 16:12 |
| Tm_T | ikonia: but that's true! | 16:12 |
| ikonia | I'm running 9.10 now ;) | 16:12 |
| Tm_T | (atleast with KDE4 that is, in here) | 16:12 |
| ikonia | Killer Kangeroo | 16:12 |
| jdong | BIGGER BETTER :) | 16:31 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, salohcin said: kde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 | 16:33 |
| salohcin | Hiya!! | 16:33 |
| salohcin | Just made an adjustment | 16:34 |
| ikonia | to what ? | 16:34 |
| salohcin | !kde4 | 16:34 |
| ubottu | KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 | 16:34 |
| ikonia | I thought it was kust #kubuntu now ? | 16:34 |
| ikonia | they had been merged | 16:34 |
| salohcin | That's why I made an adjustment :) | 16:34 |
| ikonia | no problem | 16:35 |
| ikonia | oh it's not adjusted | 16:35 |
| salohcin | Not yet I was waiting on it to be approved in here | 16:35 |
| ikonia | salohcin there is no support channel info in your updated | 16:35 |
| Pici | !kde4 =~ s/-kde4// | 16:36 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Pici | 16:36 |
| Pici | !kde4 | 16:36 |
| ubottu | KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu | 16:36 |
| ikonia | better | 16:36 |
| salohcin | !gnome3 | 16:40 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome3 | 16:40 |
| salohcin | :-P | 16:40 |
| ikonia | salohcin: anything else you need ? | 16:40 |
| salohcin | Pici: THat's incorrect | 16:40 |
| salohcin | 4.1.3 is the latest | 16:40 |
| ikonia | salohcin: within ubuntu ? | 16:40 |
| salohcin | Yes | 16:40 |
| salohcin | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 | 16:41 |
| salohcin | Part of the change I made | 16:41 |
| salohcin | New KDE every month | 16:41 |
| ikonia | Hmmm in backports | 16:41 |
| salohcin | Yes The article points that out | 16:41 |
| ikonia | lets see if my editor access is working then | 16:42 |
| ikonia | !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3 | 16:42 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3 | 16:42 |
| ikonia | arrrrrrrrrr | 16:42 |
| ikonia | jussi01: get off the plane and fix it | 16:42 |
| Tm_T | haha | 16:42 |
| Tm_T | sure it's his fault? | 16:43 |
| vorian | 4.1.3 is in backports | 16:43 |
| ikonia | does it need the trailing / like sed ? | 16:43 |
| Tm_T | ikonia: try | 16:43 |
| ikonia | !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:43 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:43 |
| ikonia | Tm_T: can I point at jussi01 now | 16:43 |
| Tm_T | no | 16:43 |
| Tm_T | !kde | 16:43 |
| ubottu | KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 | 16:43 |
| ikonia | ahhh it was kde4 | 16:44 |
| Tm_T | ubottu: kde4 ~= s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:44 |
| ikonia | can I point at myseldf | 16:44 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubottu: kde4 ~= s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:44 |
| ikonia | can I point at myself | 16:44 |
| Tm_T | aww | 16:44 |
| ikonia | Tm_T: can we point at jussi01 now | 16:44 |
| Tm_T | ikonia: you can me too | 16:44 |
| ikonia | ;) | 16:44 |
| Tm_T | ikonia: no, I used different syntax | 16:44 |
| Tm_T | ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:44 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:44 |
| Tm_T | aww | 16:44 |
| ikonia | Tm_T: I know I'm picking on him as it was him who borked my access when he implimented teh access plugin stuff | 16:44 |
| ikonia | adin plugin I think | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | AHH! | 16:45 |
| ikonia | admin even | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | ubottu: login | 16:45 |
| ubottu | use @login | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | @login | 16:45 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:45 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Tm_T | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | see? | 16:45 |
| ikonia | I was logged in It hink | 16:45 |
| ikonia | think | 16:45 |
| ikonia | @login | 16:45 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | I wasn't | 16:45 |
| ikonia | lets see if I am now | 16:46 |
| ikonia | !kde4 =~ s/4.1.3/4.1.2/ | 16:46 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !kde4 =~ s/4.1.3/4.1.2/ | 16:46 |
| ikonia | I thought so | 16:46 |
| ikonia | factoid fixed though | 16:47 |
| ikonia | salohcin: happy ? | 16:47 |
| salohcin | !kde4 | 16:49 |
| ubottu | KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu | 16:49 |
| salohcin | ^_^ | 16:49 |
| salohcin | THanks | 16:49 |
| Tm_T | aww | 16:49 |
| Tm_T | ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ | 16:49 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Tm_T | 16:49 |
| Tm_T | now | 16:49 |
| salohcin | !kde4 | 16:49 |
| ubottu | KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 - Support in #kubuntu | 16:49 |
| salohcin | ok | 16:49 |
| salohcin | Can I do that when I'm editing it to send here? | 16:49 |
| ikonia | it sends it here | 16:50 |
| salohcin | Neat thatnks | 16:50 |
| salohcin | thanks | 16:50 |
| Tm_T | hum | 17:13 |
| * Pici facepalms | 19:01 | |
| Pici | stdin, jussi01: Whenever either of you have some free time (as in this definitely isnt a priority) can you add jaunty to !info and set it as the default release in #ubuntu+1. Thanks! | 19:12 |
| LjL | Pici: i think you forgot "make it join #ubuntu+1" | 19:14 |
| Pici | LjL: I just realized that | 19:14 |
| ikonia | am I being wrong in saying no to helping PEter in #ubuntu install spaying softwar eon his bosses machine | 19:21 |
| Pici | spaying? | 19:22 |
| Pici | Oh, spying | 19:22 |
| ikonia | spying | 19:22 |
| ikonia | sorry - on a train, bad lag | 19:22 |
| PriceChild | What's with the random characters? | 19:22 |
| Pici | ikonia: From the way he is describing things, I'd say its okay to say no. | 19:22 |
| Pici | Doesn't sound legit to me. | 19:22 |
| * PriceChild imagines a spaying laptop | 19:22 | |
| ikonia | Pici: ? | 19:22 |
| ikonia | ahh | 19:22 |
| ikonia | Pici: sorry that was meant for PriceChild | 19:23 |
| Pici | PriceChild: ouch | 19:23 |
| Pici | ikonia: "spaying" is another term for neutering pets | 19:23 |
| PriceChild | the only reason i know what that word means is because of itchy and scratchy | 19:23 |
| ikonia | yes yes I know | 19:23 |
| ikonia | I had my cat spayed | 19:23 |
| stdin | ubottu: join #ubuntu+1 | 19:23 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about join #ubuntu+1 | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | ubottu: join #ubuntu+1 | 19:24 |
| Pici | It did already | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | wow I have super powers :D | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | oh ok :( | 19:24 |
| Pici | You may have super powers too | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | ubottu: part #ubuntu+1 | 19:24 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about part #ubuntu+1 | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | woo I do :D | 19:25 |
| PriceChild | ubottu: join #ubuntu+1 | 19:25 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about join #ubuntu+1 | 19:25 |
| stdin | ok, it's set to jaunty in +1 now | 19:27 |
| Pici | Thanks | 19:27 |
| Pici | Hopefully no one uses i | 19:27 |
| Pici | t | 19:27 |
| stdin | I know there's at least one person that does | 19:28 |
| * jpds watches PeterBoy | 19:30 | |
| jpds | Bye* | 19:30 |
| ikonia | bad lag there sorry pici I was going to remove him but my connection died | 19:31 |
| Pici | ikonia: no worries | 19:31 |
| ikonia | peter bye back as a34lkj2348dsf311 | 19:34 |
| ikonia | I assume someone has an eye on #ubuntuforums | 19:36 |
| Pici | He didn't have anything to contribute | 19:37 |
| ikonia | no buts back | 19:37 |
| ikonia | no but he's back | 19:38 |
| ikonia | as a34lkj2348dsf311 | 19:38 |
| Pici | as a34lkj2348dsf311 | 19:38 |
| Pici | yeah | 19:38 |
| ikonia | and all of a sudden he "knows stuff" | 19:38 |
| ikonia | which proves how bad he was trolling before | 19:38 |
| ikonia | plus his name also backs it up | 19:38 |
| PriceChild | I've completely forgotten what I was just doing. | 19:42 |
| ikonia | spaying a cat ? | 19:46 |
| PriceChild | < PriceChild> faria_khan: You've installed it, want to know if it works, but don' know what it does? | 19:57 |
| PriceChild | I'm confused. | 19:58 |
| Pici | <?cw-brad> topyli | as i herd theres a debian thing that jaunty was going to use | 20:03 |
| LjL | Pici: meh, only about 25000 packages | 20:12 |
| PriceChild | < erUSUL> PriceChild: FYI « echo 'APT::Install-Recommends "0";' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf » adapted from http://debianalwaysmore.blogspot.com/2008/05/apt-get-install-without-recommends.html | 20:16 |
| LjL | ah uhm judging from -ot, cw-brad must not be just an idiot, but a troll... | 20:17 |
| PriceChild | Haven't looked at that yet. but don't think we have a factoid and if its sane (i believe so?) then maybe..? | 20:17 |
| LjL | PriceChild: it's relatively sane, until a couple releases ago recommends weren't being pulled by default to begin with | 20:18 |
| PriceChild | yep | 20:18 |
| LjL | PriceChild: however, why would one do that | 20:18 |
| LjL | PriceChild: when one has aptitude --without-recommends | 20:19 |
| PriceChild | I can just imagine people would like to stick to apt-get. meh just an idea. | 20:20 |
| LjL | PriceChild: possibly. but there's a but, being that since recommends are brought in by default, a few important-but-not-vital dependencies have been moved to recommends | 20:22 |
| LjL | so it's probably generally speaking a bad idea, although not a *terrible* idea, to avoid isntalling them by default | 20:23 |
| PriceChild | yep | 20:23 |
| LjL | for instance, ubuntu-desktop only brings in network-manager and its friends as recommends | 20:23 |
| LjL | aptitude lets you avoid installing them selectively, which is probably better in most cases | 20:24 |
| PriceChild | it just struck me because i remember a recent blog post about firefox bringing in a ridiculous amount of packages in kubuntu | 20:24 |
| LjL | PriceChild: was discussing that with someone yesterday, and eventually it seemed to be because of ubufox, which is indeed a recommends | 20:25 |
| LjL | (not because of firefox-whatever-gnome-support, which is merely a suggests) | 20:25 |
| PriceChild | yep | 20:26 |
| Flannel | the recommends vs suggests issue isn't a fun one, thats for sure. | 20:35 |
| stdin | we made a bug report about ff depending on ubufox, apparently no one cares because it don't affect gnome users | 20:35 |
| PriceChild | who isn't an ubuntu user? | 20:36 |
| PriceChild | *gnome user | 20:36 |
| stdin | anyone who wants to use firefox in KDE | 20:36 |
| stdin | or that doesn't have gnome (only GTK) | 20:37 |
| Flannel | cw-brad in ot | 20:40 |
| Flannel | kick | 20:40 |
| Flannel | anyone? | 20:40 |
| Flannel | thankee | 20:40 |
| Pici | PriceChild: I would have waited if I saw your reply sooner | 20:41 |
| PriceChild | no worries | 20:41 |
| Flannel | He's back, so if you want that chat, you can still have it | 20:41 |
| PriceChild | I'm thinking faria_khan is being naughty.. | 20:41 |
| LjL | prepare for cw ban | 20:47 |
| Flannel | LjL: what immediately preceeded that? | 20:50 |
| Pici | idiot | 20:50 |
| Pici | I had sent him the !guidelines from ubottu too | 20:50 |
| LjL | Flannel, he had done the rm thing in -ot first, then in +1 | 20:50 |
| Flannel | Gotcha | 20:50 |
| LjL | i already knew he was a troll anyway | 20:50 |
| PriceChild | i do like !danger | 20:51 |
| LjL | he had been an idiot in #ubuntu, even though he just appeared like a clueless person there - but kinda way too clueless to be real | 20:51 |
| Flannel | PriceChild: it's rather handy | 20:51 |
| LjL | [21:51:11] <cw-brad> hey can u un ban me i just idle in channel | 20:51 |
| PriceChild | have hardly used it, just like the factoid | 20:51 |
| Flannel | PriceChild: any factoid that includes "danger will robinson" is OK in my book | 20:52 |
| LjL | note also how he just changed nickname... | 20:52 |
| LjL | [21:52:03] <cw-brad> nvm ill just talk to my step dad who is CEO of ubuntu ill see you tommorrow | 20:52 |
| Pici | ahaha | 20:52 |
| Flannel | hahahah | 20:52 |
| * LjL chuckles. kinda. | 20:52 | |
| LjL | [21:52:34] <LjL> if you want to appeal your ban, you need to talk to the ops in #ubuntu-ops | 20:52 |
| Pici | aww | 20:52 |
| LjL | i thought you might have wanted some fun | 20:52 |
| LjL | [21:52:57] <cw-brad> na [21:53:00] <cw-brad> im good [21:53:10] <cw-brad> thans for the ip | 20:54 |
| LjL | ip? bah. | 20:54 |
| LjL | hello cw-brad, how may we help you? | 20:54 |
| cw-brad | you cant | 20:55 |
| cw-brad | someone els please | 20:55 |
| LjL | oh, ok. i'll wander off then. | 20:55 |
| Flannel | cw-brad: How can we help you? | 20:55 |
| cw-brad | PM me | 20:55 |
| Flannel | cw-brad: If you have operator related issues, you're welcome to discuss them here in the channel. We don't conduct business in queries. | 20:55 |
| cw-brad | personel information will be send only trought PM | 20:57 |
| Flannel | cw-brad: alright, well, if you can find an op who will talk to you about it in a query, you're welcome to. Most business happens here. Accountability and all. | 20:58 |
| cw-brad | ok thanks for your ip mark will be calling you | 20:58 |
| Flannel | Since when do telephones run off of IPs? | 20:59 |
| Pici | Since Mark's alleged stepson lives in Jacksonville, Florida? | 20:59 |
| PriceChild | i think he means another mark? | 20:59 |
| PriceChild | He ignored my PM anyway. | 20:59 |
| Pici | not sabdfl? | 20:59 |
| Flannel | PriceChild: Not mark, "Ubuntus CEO" | 21:00 |
| Flannel | or, thats how he referenced, that is. | 21:00 |
| Pici | Who is..? | 21:00 |
| Flannel | Pici: sabdfl | 21:00 |
| Pici | Flannel: Didn't I just say that? | 21:01 |
| Pici | Anyway, I will return later | 21:01 |
| Flannel | Pici: Yes | 21:01 |
| LjL | @mark #ubuntu-ops cw-brad | 21:01 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 21:01 |
| LjL | !test | 21:25 |
| LjL | i believe a netsplit is incoming | 21:25 |
| PriceChild | services seem to be lagging | 21:26 |
| LjL | and not just services | 21:26 |
| LjL | here it comes | 21:27 |
| PriceChild | We're looking into it. | 21:28 |
| jdong | that's what she said? | 21:28 |
| jdong | ack PriceChild why did you have to go in between us like that? | 21:28 |
| LjL | hmmm this was several different splits | 21:31 |
| jdong | ok that one I can't turn into an innuendo. | 21:32 |
| LjL | jdong: try asking mc44, maybe he can | 21:32 |
| genii-around | That was an interesting global notice | 21:34 |
| LjL | seen the global notice, informed the ops on the split servers. | 21:34 |
| PriceChild | umode +w | 21:35 |
| LjL | funny | 21:35 |
| LjL | services are on card | 21:35 |
| LjL | which is the server with about the least people on | 21:35 |
| LjL | (6 people in #ubuntu) | 21:35 |
| ikonia | was Fujisan the trouble maker guy ? | 21:45 |
| === SportChick is now known as Guest40333 | ||
| Pici | Yuck, bad irssi. | 21:46 |
| === jrib is now known as Guest51470 | ||
| jdong | so much for netsplit detection. | 21:46 |
| ajmitch | my eyes | 21:47 |
| PriceChild | You'll live. | 21:47 |
| PriceChild | (that's me speaking personally, not as freenode! :P) | 21:47 |
| nalioth | jdong: if all were on one side, what's to detect? | 21:48 |
| nalioth | jdong: this was a biggy | 21:48 |
| jdong | I guess so | 21:49 |
| LjL | PriceChild: you say that because you weren't on their side of the netsplit ;) | 21:49 |
| LjL | jdong: what did the netsplit detection do? | 21:49 |
| PriceChild | LjL: most nicks came back individually. | 21:49 |
| jdong | LjL: spam my screen with a page of rejoins | 21:49 |
| PriceChild | well not most, but many | 21:50 |
| LjL | jdong: ah, so like all other clients that people use. | 21:50 |
| jdong | LjL: yup | 21:50 |
| jdong | what's up with the Guest###### naming scheme, btw? | 21:50 |
| jdong | </ignorance> | 21:50 |
| PriceChild | jdong: /msg nickserv help set enforce | 21:51 |
| LjL | which is now default, i believe | 21:51 |
| PriceChild | Wow is it? | 21:51 |
| jdong | PriceChild: neat. | 21:51 |
| LjL | PriceChild: for new nicks with the new services, i suspect so, although i never actually tested | 21:51 |
| LjL | don't kick Guest51470 by the way | 21:51 |
| PriceChild | I don't think it is.. *triple checks* | 21:51 |
| nalioth | nickserv enforce is 'opt in' | 21:53 |
| nalioth | it is not default in any way | 21:53 |
| LjL | i based my assumption on the fact i see so many people being forced to change nicks | 21:53 |
| LjL | while i didn't notice so many nick collisions with the old services | 21:53 |
| PriceChild | its not nick collisions, and its a new feature with atheme that theia didn't have | 21:54 |
| nalioth | quite. | 21:54 |
| nalioth | and the split has messed up folks' auto identify on connect stuff | 21:55 |
| LjL | no, *now* it's not nick collisions | 21:55 |
| LjL | but the equivalent feature in the old services was if i'm not very mistaken | 21:55 |
| PriceChild | that's still available in atheme (ghosting?) | 21:56 |
| nalioth | yes, we still have nick collisions | 21:56 |
| PriceChild | there is also a non-automatic individual "force nick change" by way of 'release' i believe. | 21:56 |
| LjL | PriceChild: yes you surely can ghost, but i think "enforce" in the old services resulted in you being just killed (with a nick collision message) if you didn't change your nick in time | 21:57 |
| LjL | the italian guys have made me do a modification to their floodbots, to send messages to "guests" asking them to change their nick, and then explaining how to register | 21:57 |
| PriceChild | I don't believe there was 'enforce' in theia? | 21:57 |
| PriceChild | i'm probably wrong | 21:58 |
| LjL | PriceChild: i think there was something akin. of course i might be mistaken, no way to check now. | 21:58 |
| * PriceChild compiles, installs and links hyperion and theia | 21:58 | |
| PriceChild | See you in a few days.. | 21:58 |
| LjL | heh | 21:58 |
| nalioth | PriceChild: the old services did not have it enabled, no | 21:58 |
| LjL | not *enabled*? ah, so perhaps i was just seeing the command being listed in HELP | 21:59 |
| nalioth | yes, there were lots of commands listed in the help that were not actually available | 21:59 |
| Pici | LF|KDE: How can we help you today? | 22:19 |
| LjL | [23:19:49] --> cw-brad has joined this channel (n=cw-brad@75.148.78.98). (##unavailable) i don't think i forwarded him there | 22:20 |
| LjL | so he must be banned from somewhere else i suppose | 22:20 |
| Pici | Not much of a surprise. | 22:20 |
| Pici | What a coincidence. I just ran into an issue with dpkg recommends. | 23:14 |
| Pici | I wanted to install bzr on a headless box, apt wanted to install x11. | 23:14 |
| LjL | hah | 23:22 |
| LF|KDE | ack! sorry again guys, im still getting used to irssi client and it once again loaded 2 clones in #Ubuntu :( | 23:33 |
| LF|KDE | im trying :) | 23:33 |
| Flannel | LF|KDE: Have you seen http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi ? It's a pretty decent guide for getting sorted with irssi and screen. | 23:34 |
| LF|KDE | not yet, ill check it out thanks :) | 23:34 |
| Flannel | LF|KDE: any operator related issues we can help you with today? | 23:34 |
| LF|KDE | nope im good sorry again guys | 23:35 |
| Pici | @bansearch lf|kde | 23:35 |
| ubottu | Match: *!*@c-98-224-119-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net!#ubuntu-ops by jrib in #ubuntu on Oct 29 2008 03:47:23 (ID: 6011) | 23:35 |
| Flannel | Ah/ | 23:35 |
| Pici | he'll be back I guess. | 23:35 |
| Flannel | Except LF|irssi is in #u right now. Not sure how that works. | 23:36 |
| mneptok | CR|LF is in ##windows | 23:44 |
| * mneptok cracks himself up | 23:45 | |
| * Myrtti gets the tape | 23:56 | |
| Myrtti | I don't really want to participate to the book meme | 23:57 |
| Myrtti | do I have to? | 23:57 |
| nalioth | Myrtti: are you a sheep, to follow the crowd? | 23:57 |
| Myrtti | "What command does this keystroke sequence run? C-h c describe-key-briefly" | 23:57 |
| Pici | Myrtti: Nah, its kind of stupid | 23:57 |
| Myrtti | UNIX Text Processing, GNU Emacs Pocket Reference by Debra Cameron | 23:58 |
| Myrtti | Vi Editor Pocket Reference was about as close too though | 23:59 |
| Myrtti | next one would have been Finnish haiku poetry | 23:59 |
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