[00:21] <fryguy> 19:21:59       beli| Uplink: ask your external masterbrain......google
[00:21] <genii-around> That guy is annoying
[00:22] <genii-around> I get the feeling he's going to pop in everytime someone suggests to a user to google something
[00:22] <Pici> I just invited him, so hopefully he pops in sooner than that.
[00:22] <genii-around> Hehe
[00:23] <jdong> jeez did we give him trouble for JFGI or something? is he trying to be a smartass?
[00:24] <genii-around> He got a talking-to earlier about sending users off to pages he had just googled but had nothing to do with actual issue
[00:24] <jdong> ah.
[00:25] <genii-around> I think something like xammp install when someone wanted LAMP or so
[00:25] <Pici> Indeed.
[00:49] <genii-around> Pici: I'm contemplating spuriously recommending to him to use his google-fu, then watch him come here to quote me and leave.... ;)
[01:08] <genii-around> Pici: I frankly think he lies about the problem he supposedly has audio-wise
[01:08] <Pici> genii-around: I haven't been watching, I thought he had an aTI issiue
[01:09] <genii-around> Maybe his problem keeps changing depending upon his whim (is my suspicion)
[02:15] <genii-around> Interesting. "kubuntu-members-kde4" sounds intriguing
[02:29] <nalioth> in what context?
[02:31] <genii-around> nalioth: In the sense that it's a distribution according to the bot
[02:31] <genii-around> !info somepackagename somedist
[02:31] <genii-around> ^
[02:32] <Flannel> I guess that'd be the PPA
[02:33] <Pici> Probably.
[03:45] <genii-around> @login
[03:45] <genii-around> Weird
[03:46] <genii> @login
[03:46] <mneptok> You are now female.
[03:46] <genii> Apparently
[03:47]  * mneptok perks up
[03:47] <mneptok> boobies?
[03:48] <genii> mneptok: No. http://hwcmembersgallery.katink.net/albums/userpics/normal_P1010019.JPG
[03:49] <genii> Although I am somewhat more clean-shaven today
[03:49] <mneptok> can i sleep in your beard during the cold Quebec winter?
[03:49] <mneptok> please? so ... cold ....
[03:49] <genii> Hehe, sure. I'll mail it to you
[03:50] <tritium> genii: is that a Unix beard?
[03:51] <mneptok> tritium: if you can pipe its output to your back and shoulders, not only is it Unix, but also Italian.
[03:51] <genii> tritium: Not particularly. Although that night I WAS working on a FreeBSD problem (and the box behind is, yes, <shudder> running XP before anyone asks)
[03:51] <tritium> :)
[03:52]  * mneptok pats his vintage Mac Quadra 605 running OpenBSD
[03:52] <mneptok> makes a nice monitor stand here at the office :)
[03:52] <genii> The machine on left btw is running headless Debian Sarge
[03:53] <mneptok> that sounds like a GI Joe model name
[03:53] <genii> Yes, the one nasty sister rips head out of for retaliation of beheading the Barbies....
[03:54] <mneptok> "Walkie talkie accessory not for use with this model"
[03:54] <genii> mneptok: You're pleasantly twisted :)
[04:01] <Flannel> ubottu: tell BrantlyM about away
[04:07] <mneptok> genii: O:)
[04:10] <nickrud> genii, it's nice to see some grey in someone else's hair here ;)
[04:11] <genii> nickrud: Yes, I'm old and decrepit :)
[04:11]  * mneptok too
[04:12] <nickrud> mneptok, I think you were born old (and twisted, the jury's still out on pleasant ;)
[04:12]  * genii hands out coffee to the old fogeys club
[04:12] <mneptok> nickrud: the year was nineteen-dikkety-three ...
[04:12] <nickrud> unanimous opinion on entertaining though
[04:13] <mneptok> "entertaining" in that "ooo! slow down! car accident!" kinda way.
[04:14] <nickrud> ah, a true example
[04:17] <nickrud> a better one might be: "Marge, the kid's eating the dog poop again"
[04:29] <mneptok> PETA and the ASPCA have i asked i refrain from self-analogies referencing animals
[04:30] <nickrud> fascist killjoys
[04:58] <mneptok> down there they're rounding a posse to ride.
[04:59] <genii> "down there" ?
[05:43] <Tm_T> genii: you dont want to know
[05:45] <genii> Probably not
[05:46] <nickrud> reminds me of the movies where the pretty young girl just *has* to open the door
[06:27] <ajmitch> hi
[06:30] <Daviey> !ops | ^
[06:31] <ajmitch> and most ops can't help in there
[06:31] <Flannel> Unfortunately not
[06:31] <nickrud> I'm useless, but it seems dead at the moment. Dropped in and out
[06:31] <Flannel> nickrud: Some guy spammed... like 50 lines in some other language
[06:32] <Flannel> nickrud: anlmal, that is.
[06:32] <nickrud> is just now, again
[06:32] <Flannel> Oh, and here we go again
[06:33]  * Hobbsee wave
[06:33] <nickrud> lovely lady!
[06:33] <Hobbsee> anlmal is continuing to be a SOB.
[06:34] <Hobbsee> wonder how I block ctcp's
[06:36] <Hobbsee> Ah, good to see limcore's trying to create trouble again, too.
[06:36] <Flannel> ubottu: tell |Chrizz|AFK about afk
[06:36] <Hobbsee> hmm, the ctcp's stopped
[06:53]  * genii sips
[06:56] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, orly? where?
[06:57] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: pm
[06:57] <elkbuntu> yours?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> yeah
[06:59] <Hobbsee> he's gone now, it seems.
[08:20] <Tm_T> hmh, I hope I don't have to poke st affers soon
[08:25] <elkbuntu> for what?
[08:25] <elkbuntu> k stuff?
[08:27] <Tm_T> some racism and stuff
[08:28] <Tm_T> in non-ubuntu channels though but anyway
[08:28] <ikonia> morning
[08:29] <Tm_T> ah, K-lined already (once)
[11:48] <ziroday> You might want to watch Craig_Whitnall
[11:49] <ziroday> he's completely offtopic in #ubuntu and is veering towards saying something inappropriate
[11:49] <ziroday> or giving bad advice
[11:49] <Tm_T> anyone taking?
[11:50] <Hobbsee> yeah
[11:50] <ziroday> Hobbsee: thanks :)
[11:50] <ziroday> bye
[11:50] <Hobbsee> cya
[11:50] <Tm_T> good, so I can go to see my wife, she's waiting our first to come out any day now
[12:51] <LjL> oooh abortd
[12:51] <LjL> the memories
[12:57] <LjL> !vmware
[12:57] <LjL> !no vmware is <reply> VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[12:58] <LjL> feisty is eol
[12:58] <jrib> please write a factoid about dividing #ubuntu
[12:58] <Pici> jrib: I was just thinking of it
[12:58] <LjL> jrib: someone's proposed that again?
[12:58] <LjL> how boring
[13:15] <LjL> BrantlyM claims his Hardy default x-chat causes him noisy away messages in #ubuntu. he must have something weird installed, because my x-chat definitely doesn't do that
[13:16] <LjL> any clue where to look? i'm not familiar with x-chat
[13:16] <LjL> nevermind, he found it himself, i think.
[13:25] <ikonia> be aware El_gato_xD is online (he was the virus_bot guy) and is trying to get back into channels to invite people to his new bot channel 
[13:26] <LjL> ikonia: how do you know he's trying to get back?
[13:27] <ikonia> LjL he's inviting me to his channel like 100 times, and messaging me asking how to get back, and saying oh, he's already in
[13:28] <ikonia> I'll re-phrase that, he's giving the impression of trying to get in
[13:30] <LjL> ikonia: he's also online as spider48014
[13:31] <ikonia> thats his "mate" who shares the same wirless router
[13:31] <ikonia> he uses it as a threat to stop you banning him (bad call)
[14:57] <Tm_T> ikonia: LjL: shouldn't he have some K-love?
[14:57] <Tm_T> IMO
[14:57] <ikonia> for me yes
[14:57] <ikonia> the virus_bot scam he was trying to do was enough to remove
[14:58] <Tm_T> IMO it's enough to K-line on sight -tag for him
[15:17] <LjL> that's not up to me.
[15:17] <Tm_T> I know
[15:17] <Tm_T> just kinda asking opinion
[15:26] <LjL> my answer to that would be "yes" more often than freenode would like.
[15:27] <Tm_T> heh
[15:32] <ikonia> he's attempting to black mail me now saying he'll only stop messaging me nad inviting me to his channel if I let him back into #ubuntu
[15:32] <ikonia> I'll just pass it to freenode now
[15:36] <ikonia> nalioth: PriceChild SportChick christel give me a nudge when your free please
[15:37] <ikonia> or any otehr staff member that I missed
[15:37] <LjL> ikonia: !staff
[15:38] <ikonia> seemed a bit over the top, I'm not in any hurry, however I'm aware I've just highlighted people which is the same effect, so doh
[15:52] <LjL> Pici: it's *certainly* a bad idea to install it, but doesn't that mean we should reopen +1
[15:52] <Pici> LjL: Get out of my brain
[15:53] <nalioth> ikonia: nudge
[15:53] <ikonia> vorian picked it up
[15:53] <ikonia> thank you though
[15:53] <ikonia> nalioth: the virus_bot guy is back
[16:03] <nalioth> ikonia: noted
[16:03] <ikonia> vorian was on the job, thanks vorian
[16:06] <LjL> !jaunty
[16:07] <LjL> !no jaunty is <reply> Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion.
[16:08] <Pici> LjL: The forums have opened their Jaunty subforum, for the crazies that want to try it now, it sort of makes sense for us to open the channel too.
[16:08] <LjL> Pici: are you saying that if jdong does something foolish, then we should do the same? we'd already be doomed that way.
[16:10] <jdong> :D
[16:11] <Tm_T> LjL: why speaking in future tense (?)
[16:11] <LjL> Tm_T: also true
[16:12] <ikonia> Pici crazy / silly people who think that a bigger version number = better even at this point
[16:12] <Tm_T> ikonia: but that's true!
[16:12] <ikonia> I'm running 9.10 now ;)
[16:12] <Tm_T> (atleast with KDE4 that is, in here)
[16:12] <ikonia> Killer Kangeroo
[16:31] <jdong> BIGGER BETTER :)
[16:33] <salohcin> Hiya!!
[16:34] <salohcin> Just made an adjustment
[16:34] <ikonia> to what ?
[16:34] <salohcin> !kde4
[16:34] <ikonia> I thought it was kust #kubuntu now ?
[16:34] <ikonia> they had been merged
[16:34] <salohcin> That's why I made an adjustment :)
[16:35] <ikonia> no problem
[16:35] <ikonia> oh it's not adjusted
[16:35] <salohcin> Not yet I was waiting on it to be approved in here
[16:35] <ikonia> salohcin there is no support channel info in your updated
[16:36] <Pici> !kde4 =~ s/-kde4//
[16:36] <Pici> !kde4
[16:36] <ikonia> better
[16:40] <salohcin> !gnome3
[16:40] <salohcin> :-P
[16:40] <ikonia> salohcin: anything else you need ?
[16:40] <salohcin> Pici: THat's incorrect
[16:40] <salohcin> 4.1.3 is the latest
[16:40] <ikonia> salohcin: within ubuntu ?
[16:40] <salohcin> Yes
[16:41] <salohcin> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3
[16:41] <salohcin> Part of the change I made
[16:41] <salohcin> New KDE every month
[16:41] <ikonia> Hmmm in backports
[16:41] <salohcin> Yes The article points that out
[16:42] <ikonia> lets see if my editor access is working then
[16:42] <ikonia> !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3
[16:42] <ikonia> arrrrrrrrrr
[16:42] <ikonia> jussi01: get off the plane and fix it
[16:42] <Tm_T> haha
[16:43] <Tm_T> sure it's his fault?
[16:43] <vorian> 4.1.3 is in backports 
[16:43] <ikonia> does it need the trailing / like sed ?
[16:43] <Tm_T> ikonia: try
[16:43] <ikonia> !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/
[16:43] <ikonia> Tm_T: can I point at jussi01 now
[16:43] <Tm_T> no
[16:43] <Tm_T> !kde
[16:44] <ikonia> ahhh it was kde4
[16:44] <Tm_T> ubottu: kde4 ~= s/4.1.2/4.1.3/
[16:44] <ikonia> can I point at myseldf
[16:44] <ikonia> can I point at myself
[16:44] <Tm_T> aww
[16:44] <ikonia> Tm_T: can we point at jussi01  now
[16:44] <Tm_T> ikonia: you can me too
[16:44] <ikonia> ;)
[16:44] <Tm_T> ikonia: no, I used different syntax
[16:44] <Tm_T> ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/
[16:44] <Tm_T> aww
[16:44] <ikonia> Tm_T: I know I'm picking on him as it was him who borked my access when he implimented teh access plugin stuff
[16:45] <ikonia> adin plugin I think
[16:45] <Tm_T> AHH!
[16:45] <ikonia> admin even
[16:45] <Tm_T> ubottu: login
[16:45] <Tm_T> @login
[16:45] <Tm_T> ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/
[16:45] <Tm_T> see?
[16:45] <ikonia> I was logged in It hink
[16:45] <ikonia> think
[16:45] <ikonia> @login
[16:45] <Tm_T> I wasn't
[16:46] <ikonia> lets see if I am now
[16:46] <ikonia> !kde4 =~ s/4.1.3/4.1.2/
[16:46] <ikonia> I thought so 
[16:47] <ikonia> factoid fixed though
[16:47] <ikonia> salohcin: happy ?
[16:49] <salohcin> !kde4
[16:49] <salohcin> ^_^
[16:49] <salohcin> THanks
[16:49] <Tm_T> aww
[16:49] <Tm_T> ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/
[16:49] <Tm_T> now
[16:49] <salohcin> !kde4
[16:49] <salohcin> ok
[16:49] <salohcin> Can I do that when I'm editing it to send here?
[16:50] <ikonia> it sends it here 
[16:50] <salohcin> Neat thatnks
[16:50] <salohcin> thanks
[17:13] <Tm_T> hum
[19:01]  * Pici facepalms
[19:12] <Pici> stdin, jussi01: Whenever either of you have some free time (as in this definitely isnt a priority) can you add jaunty to !info and set it as the default release in #ubuntu+1.  Thanks!
[19:14] <LjL> Pici: i think you forgot "make it join #ubuntu+1"
[19:14] <Pici> LjL: I just realized that
[19:21] <ikonia> am I being wrong in saying no to helping PEter in #ubuntu install spaying softwar eon his bosses machine
[19:22] <Pici> spaying? 
[19:22] <Pici> Oh, spying
[19:22] <ikonia> spying
[19:22] <ikonia> sorry - on a train, bad lag
[19:22] <PriceChild> What's with the random characters?
[19:22] <Pici> ikonia: From the way he is describing things, I'd say its okay to say no.
[19:22] <Pici> Doesn't sound legit to me.
[19:22]  * PriceChild imagines a spaying laptop
[19:22] <ikonia> Pici: ?
[19:22] <ikonia> ahh
[19:23] <ikonia> Pici: sorry that was meant for PriceChild 
[19:23] <Pici> PriceChild: ouch
[19:23] <Pici> ikonia: "spaying" is another term for neutering pets
[19:23] <PriceChild> the only reason i know what that word means is because of itchy and scratchy
[19:23] <ikonia> yes yes I know
[19:23] <ikonia> I had my cat spayed
[19:23] <stdin> ubottu: join #ubuntu+1
[19:24] <PriceChild> ubottu: join #ubuntu+1
[19:24] <Pici> It did already
[19:24] <PriceChild> wow I have super powers :D
[19:24] <PriceChild> oh ok :(
[19:24] <Pici> You may have super powers too
[19:24] <PriceChild> ubottu: part #ubuntu+1
[19:25] <PriceChild> woo I do :D
[19:25] <PriceChild> ubottu: join #ubuntu+1
[19:27] <stdin> ok, it's set to jaunty in +1 now
[19:27] <Pici> Thanks
[19:27] <Pici> Hopefully no one uses i
[19:27] <Pici> t
[19:28] <stdin> I know there's at least one person that does
[19:30]  * jpds watches PeterBoy
[19:30] <jpds> Bye*
[19:31] <ikonia> bad lag there sorry pici I was going to remove him but my connection died
[19:31] <Pici> ikonia: no worries
[19:34] <ikonia> peter bye back as a34lkj2348dsf311
[19:36] <ikonia> I assume someone has an eye on #ubuntuforums
[19:37] <Pici> He didn't have anything to contribute
[19:37] <ikonia> no buts back
[19:38] <ikonia> no but he's back
[19:38] <ikonia> as a34lkj2348dsf311
[19:38] <Pici> as a34lkj2348dsf311
[19:38] <Pici> yeah
[19:38] <ikonia> and all of a sudden he "knows stuff"
[19:38] <ikonia> which proves how bad he was trolling before
[19:38] <ikonia> plus his name also backs it up
[19:42] <PriceChild> I've completely forgotten what I was just doing.
[19:46] <ikonia> spaying a cat ?
[19:57] <PriceChild> < PriceChild> faria_khan: You've installed it, want to know if it works, but don' know what it does?
[19:58] <PriceChild> I'm confused.
 topyli | as i herd theres a debian thing that jaunty was going to use
[20:12] <LjL> Pici: meh, only about 25000 packages
[20:16] <PriceChild> < erUSUL> PriceChild: FYI « echo 'APT::Install-Recommends "0";' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf » adapted from  http://debianalwaysmore.blogspot.com/2008/05/apt-get-install-without-recommends.html
[20:17] <LjL> ah uhm judging from -ot, cw-brad must not be just an idiot, but a troll...
[20:17] <PriceChild> Haven't looked at that yet. but don't think we have a factoid and if its sane (i believe so?) then maybe..?
[20:18] <LjL> PriceChild: it's relatively sane, until a couple releases ago recommends weren't being pulled by default to begin with
[20:18] <PriceChild> yep
[20:18] <LjL> PriceChild: however, why would one do that
[20:19] <LjL> PriceChild: when one has aptitude --without-recommends
[20:20] <PriceChild> I can just imagine people would like to stick to apt-get. meh just an idea.
[20:22] <LjL> PriceChild: possibly. but there's a but, being that since recommends are brought in by default, a few important-but-not-vital dependencies have been moved to recommends
[20:23] <LjL> so it's probably generally speaking a bad idea, although not a *terrible* idea, to avoid isntalling them by default
[20:23] <PriceChild> yep
[20:23] <LjL> for instance, ubuntu-desktop only brings in network-manager and its friends as recommends
[20:24] <LjL> aptitude lets you avoid installing them selectively, which is probably better in most cases
[20:24] <PriceChild> it just struck me because i remember a recent blog post about firefox bringing in a ridiculous amount of packages in kubuntu
[20:25] <LjL> PriceChild: was discussing that with someone yesterday, and eventually it seemed to be because of ubufox, which is indeed a recommends
[20:25] <LjL> (not because of firefox-whatever-gnome-support, which is merely a suggests)
[20:26] <PriceChild> yep
[20:35] <Flannel> the recommends vs suggests issue isn't a fun one, thats for sure.
[20:35] <stdin> we made a bug report about ff depending on ubufox, apparently no one cares because it don't affect gnome users
[20:36] <PriceChild> who isn't an ubuntu user?
[20:36] <PriceChild> *gnome user
[20:36] <stdin> anyone who wants to use firefox in KDE
[20:37] <stdin> or that doesn't have gnome (only GTK)
[20:40] <Flannel> cw-brad in ot
[20:40] <Flannel> kick
[20:40] <Flannel> anyone?
[20:40] <Flannel> thankee
[20:41] <Pici> PriceChild: I would have waited if I saw your reply sooner
[20:41] <PriceChild> no worries
[20:41] <Flannel> He's back, so if you want that chat, you can still have it
[20:41] <PriceChild> I'm thinking faria_khan is being naughty..
[20:47] <LjL> prepare for cw ban
[20:50] <Flannel> LjL: what immediately preceeded that?
[20:50] <Pici> idiot
[20:50] <Pici> I had sent him the !guidelines from ubottu too
[20:50] <LjL> Flannel, he had done the rm thing in -ot first, then in +1
[20:50] <Flannel> Gotcha
[20:50] <LjL> i already knew he was a troll anyway
[20:51] <PriceChild> i do like !danger
[20:51] <LjL> he had been an idiot in #ubuntu, even though he just appeared like a clueless person there - but kinda way too clueless to be real
[20:51] <Flannel> PriceChild: it's rather handy
[20:51] <LjL> [21:51:11] <cw-brad> hey can u un ban me i just idle in channel
[20:51] <PriceChild> have hardly used it, just like the factoid
[20:52] <Flannel> PriceChild: any factoid that includes "danger will robinson" is OK in my book
[20:52] <LjL> note also how he just changed nickname...
[20:52] <LjL> [21:52:03] <cw-brad> nvm ill just talk to my step dad who is CEO of ubuntu ill see you tommorrow
[20:52] <Pici> ahaha
[20:52] <Flannel> hahahah
[20:52]  * LjL chuckles. kinda.
[20:52] <LjL> [21:52:34] <LjL> if you want to appeal your ban, you need to talk to the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[20:52] <Pici> aww
[20:52] <LjL> i thought you might have wanted some fun
[20:54] <LjL> [21:52:57] <cw-brad> na [21:53:00] <cw-brad> im good [21:53:10] <cw-brad> thans for the ip
[20:54] <LjL> ip? bah.
[20:54] <LjL> hello cw-brad, how may we help you?
[20:55] <cw-brad> you cant
[20:55] <cw-brad> someone els please
[20:55] <LjL> oh, ok. i'll wander off then.
[20:55] <Flannel> cw-brad: How can we help you?
[20:55] <cw-brad> PM me
[20:55] <Flannel> cw-brad: If you have operator related issues, you're welcome to discuss them here in the channel.  We don't conduct business in queries.
[20:57] <cw-brad> personel information will be send only trought PM
[20:58] <Flannel> cw-brad: alright, well, if you can find an op who will talk to you about it in a query, you're welcome to.  Most business happens here.  Accountability and all.
[20:58] <cw-brad> ok thanks for your ip mark will be calling you
[20:59] <Flannel> Since when do telephones run off of IPs?
[20:59] <Pici> Since Mark's alleged stepson lives in Jacksonville, Florida?
[20:59] <PriceChild> i think he means another mark?
[20:59] <PriceChild> He ignored my PM anyway.
[20:59] <Pici> not sabdfl?
[21:00] <Flannel> PriceChild: Not mark, "Ubuntus CEO"
[21:00] <Flannel> or, thats how he referenced, that is.
[21:00] <Pici> Who is..?
[21:00] <Flannel> Pici: sabdfl
[21:01] <Pici> Flannel: Didn't I just say that?
[21:01] <Pici> Anyway, I will return later
[21:01] <Flannel> Pici: Yes
[21:01] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops cw-brad
[21:25] <LjL> !test
[21:25] <LjL> i believe a netsplit is incoming
[21:26] <PriceChild> services seem to be lagging
[21:26] <LjL> and not just services
[21:27] <LjL> here it comes
[21:28] <PriceChild> We're looking into it.
[21:28] <jdong> that's what she said?
[21:28] <jdong> ack PriceChild why did you have to go in between us like that?
[21:31] <LjL> hmmm this was several different splits
[21:32] <jdong> ok that one I can't turn into an innuendo.
[21:32] <LjL> jdong: try asking mc44, maybe he can
[21:34] <genii-around> That was an interesting global notice
[21:34] <LjL> seen the global notice, informed the ops on the split servers.
[21:35] <PriceChild> umode +w
[21:35] <LjL> funny
[21:35] <LjL> services are on card
[21:35] <LjL> which is the server with about the least people on
[21:35] <LjL> (6 people in #ubuntu)
[21:45] <ikonia> was Fujisan the trouble maker guy ?
[21:46] <Pici> Yuck, bad irssi.
[21:46] <jdong> so much for netsplit detection.
[21:47] <ajmitch> my eyes
[21:47] <PriceChild> You'll live.
[21:47] <PriceChild> (that's me speaking personally, not as freenode! :P)
[21:48] <nalioth> jdong: if all were on one side, what's to detect?
[21:48] <nalioth> jdong: this was a biggy
[21:49] <jdong> I guess so
[21:49] <LjL> PriceChild: you say that because you weren't on their side of the netsplit ;)
[21:49] <LjL> jdong: what did the netsplit detection do?
[21:49] <PriceChild> LjL: most nicks came back individually.
[21:49] <jdong> LjL: spam my screen with a page of rejoins
[21:50] <PriceChild> well not most, but many
[21:50] <LjL> jdong: ah, so like all other clients that people use.
[21:50] <jdong> LjL: yup
[21:50] <jdong> what's up with the Guest###### naming scheme, btw?
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[21:51] <PriceChild> jdong: /msg nickserv help set enforce
[21:51] <LjL> which is now default, i believe
[21:51] <PriceChild> Wow is it?
[21:51] <jdong> PriceChild: neat.
[21:51] <LjL> PriceChild: for new nicks with the new services, i suspect so, although i never actually tested
[21:51] <LjL> don't kick Guest51470 by the way
[21:51] <PriceChild> I don't think it is.. *triple checks*
[21:53] <nalioth> nickserv enforce is 'opt in'
[21:53] <nalioth> it is not default in any way
[21:53] <LjL> i based my assumption on the fact i see so many people being forced to change nicks
[21:53] <LjL> while i didn't notice so many nick collisions with the old services
[21:54] <PriceChild> its not nick collisions, and its a new feature with atheme that theia didn't have
[21:54] <nalioth> quite.
[21:55] <nalioth> and the split has messed up folks' auto identify on connect  stuff
[21:55] <LjL> no, *now* it's not nick collisions
[21:55] <LjL> but the equivalent feature in the old services was if i'm not very mistaken
[21:56] <PriceChild> that's still available in atheme (ghosting?)
[21:56] <nalioth> yes, we still have nick collisions
[21:56] <PriceChild> there is also a non-automatic individual "force nick change" by way of 'release' i believe.
[21:57] <LjL> PriceChild: yes you surely can ghost, but i think "enforce" in the old services resulted in you being just killed (with a nick collision message) if you didn't change your nick in time
[21:57] <LjL> the italian guys have made me do a modification to their floodbots, to send messages to "guests" asking them to change their nick, and then explaining how to register
[21:57] <PriceChild> I don't believe there was 'enforce' in theia?
[21:58] <PriceChild> i'm probably wrong
[21:58] <LjL> PriceChild: i think there was something akin. of course i might be mistaken, no way to check now.
[21:58]  * PriceChild compiles, installs and links hyperion and theia
[21:58] <PriceChild> See you in a few days..
[21:58] <LjL> heh
[21:58] <nalioth> PriceChild: the old services did not have it enabled, no
[21:59] <LjL> not *enabled*? ah, so perhaps i was just seeing the command being listed in HELP
[21:59] <nalioth> yes, there were lots of commands listed in the help that were not actually available
[22:19] <Pici> LF|KDE: How can we help you today?
[22:20] <LjL> [23:19:49] --> cw-brad has joined this channel (n=cw-brad@75.148.78.98). (##unavailable) i don't think i forwarded him there
[22:20] <LjL> so he must be banned from somewhere else i suppose
[22:20] <Pici> Not much of a surprise.
[23:14] <Pici> What a coincidence.  I just ran into an issue with dpkg recommends.
[23:14] <Pici> I wanted to install bzr on a headless box, apt wanted to install x11.
[23:22] <LjL> hah
[23:33] <LF|KDE> ack! sorry again guys, im still getting used to irssi client and it once again loaded 2 clones in #Ubuntu :(
[23:33] <LF|KDE> im trying :)
[23:34] <Flannel> LF|KDE: Have you seen http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi ?   It's a pretty decent guide for getting sorted with irssi and screen.
[23:34] <LF|KDE> not yet, ill check it out thanks :)
[23:34] <Flannel> LF|KDE: any operator related issues we can help you with today?
[23:35] <LF|KDE> nope im good sorry again guys
[23:35] <Pici> @bansearch lf|kde
[23:35] <Flannel> Ah/
[23:35] <Pici> he'll be back I guess.
[23:36] <Flannel> Except LF|irssi is in #u right now.  Not sure how that works.
[23:44] <mneptok> CR|LF is in ##windows
[23:45]  * mneptok cracks himself up
[23:56]  * Myrtti gets the tape
[23:57] <Myrtti> I don't really want to participate to the book meme
[23:57] <Myrtti> do I have to?
[23:57] <nalioth> Myrtti: are you a sheep, to follow the crowd?
[23:57] <Myrtti> "What command does this keystroke sequence run? C-h c describe-key-briefly"
[23:57] <Pici> Myrtti: Nah, its kind of stupid
[23:58] <Myrtti> UNIX Text Processing, GNU Emacs Pocket Reference by Debra Cameron
[23:59] <Myrtti> Vi Editor Pocket Reference was about as close too though
[23:59] <Myrtti> next one would have been Finnish haiku poetry