[00:21] 19:21:59 beli| Uplink: ask your external masterbrain......google [00:21] That guy is annoying [00:22] I get the feeling he's going to pop in everytime someone suggests to a user to google something [00:22] I just invited him, so hopefully he pops in sooner than that. [00:22] Hehe [00:23] jeez did we give him trouble for JFGI or something? is he trying to be a smartass? [00:24] He got a talking-to earlier about sending users off to pages he had just googled but had nothing to do with actual issue [00:24] ah. [00:25] I think something like xammp install when someone wanted LAMP or so [00:25] Indeed. [00:49] Pici: I'm contemplating spuriously recommending to him to use his google-fu, then watch him come here to quote me and leave.... ;) [01:08] Pici: I frankly think he lies about the problem he supposedly has audio-wise [01:08] genii-around: I haven't been watching, I thought he had an aTI issiue [01:09] Maybe his problem keeps changing depending upon his whim (is my suspicion) [02:15] Interesting. "kubuntu-members-kde4" sounds intriguing [02:29] in what context? [02:31] nalioth: In the sense that it's a distribution according to the bot [02:31] !info somepackagename somedist [02:31] somedist is not a valid distribution ['intrepid', 'medibuntu', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid-backports', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'feisty-backports', 'dapper', 'feisty'] [02:31] ^ [02:32] I guess that'd be the PPA [02:33] Probably. [03:45] @login [03:45] Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong. [03:45] Weird === genii-around is now known as genii [03:46] @login [03:46] The operation succeeded. [03:46] You are now female. [03:46] Apparently [03:47] * mneptok perks up [03:47] boobies? [03:48] mneptok: No. http://hwcmembersgallery.katink.net/albums/userpics/normal_P1010019.JPG [03:49] Although I am somewhat more clean-shaven today [03:49] can i sleep in your beard during the cold Quebec winter? [03:49] please? so ... cold .... [03:49] Hehe, sure. I'll mail it to you [03:50] genii: is that a Unix beard? [03:51] tritium: if you can pipe its output to your back and shoulders, not only is it Unix, but also Italian. [03:51] tritium: Not particularly. Although that night I WAS working on a FreeBSD problem (and the box behind is, yes, running XP before anyone asks) [03:51] :) [03:52] * mneptok pats his vintage Mac Quadra 605 running OpenBSD [03:52] makes a nice monitor stand here at the office :) [03:52] The machine on left btw is running headless Debian Sarge [03:53] that sounds like a GI Joe model name [03:53] Yes, the one nasty sister rips head out of for retaliation of beheading the Barbies.... [03:54] "Walkie talkie accessory not for use with this model" [03:54] mneptok: You're pleasantly twisted :) [04:01] ubottu: tell BrantlyM about away [04:07] genii: O:) [04:10] genii, it's nice to see some grey in someone else's hair here ;) [04:11] nickrud: Yes, I'm old and decrepit :) [04:11] * mneptok too [04:12] mneptok, I think you were born old (and twisted, the jury's still out on pleasant ;) [04:12] * genii hands out coffee to the old fogeys club [04:12] nickrud: the year was nineteen-dikkety-three ... [04:12] unanimous opinion on entertaining though [04:13] "entertaining" in that "ooo! slow down! car accident!" kinda way. [04:14] ah, a true example [04:17] a better one might be: "Marge, the kid's eating the dog poop again" [04:29] PETA and the ASPCA have i asked i refrain from self-analogies referencing animals [04:30] fascist killjoys === genii-around is now known as genii [04:58] down there they're rounding a posse to ride. [04:59] "down there" ? === vorian is now known as heHATEme [05:43] genii: you dont want to know [05:45] Probably not [05:46] reminds me of the movies where the pretty young girl just *has* to open the door [06:27] hi [06:28] StevenK called the ops in #ubuntu-motu () [06:30] !ops | ^ [06:30] ^: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [06:30] Daviey called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (^) [06:31] and most ops can't help in there [06:31] Unfortunately not [06:31] I'm useless, but it seems dead at the moment. Dropped in and out [06:31] nickrud: Some guy spammed... like 50 lines in some other language [06:32] nickrud: anlmal, that is. [06:32] is just now, again [06:32] Oh, and here we go again [06:33] * Hobbsee wave [06:33] lovely lady! [06:33] anlmal is continuing to be a SOB. [06:34] wonder how I block ctcp's [06:36] Ah, good to see limcore's trying to create trouble again, too. [06:36] ubottu: tell |Chrizz|AFK about afk [06:36] hmm, the ctcp's stopped [06:53] * genii sips [06:56] Hobbsee, orly? where? [06:57] elkbuntu: pm [06:57] yours? [06:59] yeah [06:59] he's gone now, it seems. [08:20] hmh, I hope I don't have to poke st affers soon [08:25] for what? [08:25] k stuff? [08:27] some racism and stuff [08:28] in non-ubuntu channels though but anyway [08:28] morning [08:29] ah, K-lined already (once) [11:48] You might want to watch Craig_Whitnall [11:49] he's completely offtopic in #ubuntu and is veering towards saying something inappropriate [11:49] or giving bad advice [11:49] anyone taking? [11:50] yeah [11:50] Hobbsee: thanks :) [11:50] bye [11:50] cya [11:50] good, so I can go to see my wife, she's waiting our first to come out any day now [12:51] oooh abortd [12:51] the memories === heHATEme is now known as vorian [12:57] !vmware [12:57] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers [12:57] !no vmware is VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware [12:57] I'll remember that LjL [12:58] feisty is eol [12:58] please write a factoid about dividing #ubuntu [12:58] jrib: I was just thinking of it [12:58] jrib: someone's proposed that again? [12:58] how boring [13:15] BrantlyM claims his Hardy default x-chat causes him noisy away messages in #ubuntu. he must have something weird installed, because my x-chat definitely doesn't do that [13:16] any clue where to look? i'm not familiar with x-chat [13:16] nevermind, he found it himself, i think. [13:25] be aware El_gato_xD is online (he was the virus_bot guy) and is trying to get back into channels to invite people to his new bot channel [13:26] ikonia: how do you know he's trying to get back? [13:27] LjL he's inviting me to his channel like 100 times, and messaging me asking how to get back, and saying oh, he's already in [13:28] I'll re-phrase that, he's giving the impression of trying to get in [13:30] ikonia: he's also online as spider48014 [13:31] thats his "mate" who shares the same wirless router [13:31] he uses it as a threat to stop you banning him (bad call) [14:57] ikonia: LjL: shouldn't he have some K-love? [14:57] IMO [14:57] for me yes [14:57] the virus_bot scam he was trying to do was enough to remove [14:58] IMO it's enough to K-line on sight -tag for him [15:17] that's not up to me. [15:17] I know [15:17] just kinda asking opinion [15:26] my answer to that would be "yes" more often than freenode would like. [15:27] heh [15:32] he's attempting to black mail me now saying he'll only stop messaging me nad inviting me to his channel if I let him back into #ubuntu [15:32] I'll just pass it to freenode now [15:36] nalioth: PriceChild SportChick christel give me a nudge when your free please [15:37] or any otehr staff member that I missed [15:37] ikonia: !staff [15:38] seemed a bit over the top, I'm not in any hurry, however I'm aware I've just highlighted people which is the same effect, so doh [15:52] Pici: it's *certainly* a bad idea to install it, but doesn't that mean we should reopen +1 [15:52] LjL: Get out of my brain [15:53] ikonia: nudge [15:53] vorian picked it up [15:53] thank you though [15:53] nalioth: the virus_bot guy is back [16:03] ikonia: noted [16:03] vorian was on the job, thanks vorian [16:06] !jaunty [16:06] Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA [16:07] !no jaunty is Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion. [16:07] I'll remember that LjL [16:08] LjL: The forums have opened their Jaunty subforum, for the crazies that want to try it now, it sort of makes sense for us to open the channel too. [16:08] Pici: are you saying that if jdong does something foolish, then we should do the same? we'd already be doomed that way. [16:10] :D [16:11] LjL: why speaking in future tense (?) [16:11] Tm_T: also true [16:12] Pici crazy / silly people who think that a bigger version number = better even at this point [16:12] ikonia: but that's true! [16:12] I'm running 9.10 now ;) [16:12] (atleast with KDE4 that is, in here) [16:12] Killer Kangeroo [16:31] BIGGER BETTER :) [16:33] In ubottu, salohcin said: kde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 [16:33] Hiya!! [16:34] Just made an adjustment [16:34] to what ? [16:34] !kde4 [16:34] KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [16:34] I thought it was kust #kubuntu now ? [16:34] they had been merged [16:34] That's why I made an adjustment :) [16:35] no problem [16:35] oh it's not adjusted [16:35] Not yet I was waiting on it to be approved in here [16:35] salohcin there is no support channel info in your updated [16:36] !kde4 =~ s/-kde4// [16:36] I'll remember that Pici [16:36] !kde4 [16:36] KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu [16:36] better [16:40] !gnome3 [16:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome3 [16:40] :-P [16:40] salohcin: anything else you need ? [16:40] Pici: THat's incorrect [16:40] 4.1.3 is the latest [16:40] salohcin: within ubuntu ? [16:40] Yes [16:41] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 [16:41] Part of the change I made [16:41] New KDE every month [16:41] Hmmm in backports [16:41] Yes The article points that out [16:42] lets see if my editor access is working then [16:42] !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3 [16:42] In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3 [16:42] arrrrrrrrrr [16:42] jussi01: get off the plane and fix it [16:42] haha [16:43] sure it's his fault? [16:43] 4.1.3 is in backports [16:43] does it need the trailing / like sed ? [16:43] ikonia: try [16:43] !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:43] In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !kde =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:43] Tm_T: can I point at jussi01 now [16:43] no [16:43] !kde [16:43] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 [16:44] ahhh it was kde4 [16:44] ubottu: kde4 ~= s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:44] can I point at myseldf [16:44] In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubottu: kde4 ~= s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:44] can I point at myself [16:44] aww [16:44] Tm_T: can we point at jussi01 now [16:44] ikonia: you can me too [16:44] ;) [16:44] ikonia: no, I used different syntax [16:44] ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:44] In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:44] aww [16:44] Tm_T: I know I'm picking on him as it was him who borked my access when he implimented teh access plugin stuff [16:45] adin plugin I think [16:45] AHH! [16:45] admin even [16:45] ubottu: login [16:45] use @login [16:45] @login [16:45] The operation succeeded. [16:45] ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:45] I'll remember that Tm_T [16:45] see? [16:45] I was logged in It hink [16:45] think [16:45] @login [16:45] The operation succeeded. [16:45] I wasn't [16:46] lets see if I am now [16:46] !kde4 =~ s/4.1.3/4.1.2/ [16:46] In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !kde4 =~ s/4.1.3/4.1.2/ [16:46] I thought so [16:47] factoid fixed though [16:47] salohcin: happy ? [16:49] !kde4 [16:49] KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu [16:49] ^_^ [16:49] THanks [16:49] aww [16:49] ubottu: kde4 =~ s/4.1.2/4.1.3/ [16:49] I'll remember that Tm_T [16:49] now [16:49] !kde4 [16:49] KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 - Support in #kubuntu [16:49] ok [16:49] Can I do that when I'm editing it to send here? [16:50] it sends it here [16:50] Neat thatnks [16:50] thanks [17:13] hum [19:01] * Pici facepalms [19:12] stdin, jussi01: Whenever either of you have some free time (as in this definitely isnt a priority) can you add jaunty to !info and set it as the default release in #ubuntu+1. Thanks! [19:14] Pici: i think you forgot "make it join #ubuntu+1" [19:14] LjL: I just realized that [19:21] am I being wrong in saying no to helping PEter in #ubuntu install spaying softwar eon his bosses machine [19:22] spaying? [19:22] Oh, spying [19:22] spying [19:22] sorry - on a train, bad lag [19:22] What's with the random characters? [19:22] ikonia: From the way he is describing things, I'd say its okay to say no. [19:22] Doesn't sound legit to me. [19:22] * PriceChild imagines a spaying laptop [19:22] Pici: ? [19:22] ahh [19:23] Pici: sorry that was meant for PriceChild [19:23] PriceChild: ouch [19:23] ikonia: "spaying" is another term for neutering pets [19:23] the only reason i know what that word means is because of itchy and scratchy [19:23] yes yes I know [19:23] I had my cat spayed [19:23] ubottu: join #ubuntu+1 [19:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about join #ubuntu+1 [19:24] ubottu: join #ubuntu+1 [19:24] It did already [19:24] wow I have super powers :D [19:24] oh ok :( [19:24] You may have super powers too [19:24] ubottu: part #ubuntu+1 [19:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about part #ubuntu+1 [19:25] woo I do :D [19:25] ubottu: join #ubuntu+1 [19:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about join #ubuntu+1 [19:27] ok, it's set to jaunty in +1 now [19:27] Thanks [19:27] Hopefully no one uses i [19:27] t [19:28] I know there's at least one person that does [19:30] * jpds watches PeterBoy [19:30] Bye* [19:31] bad lag there sorry pici I was going to remove him but my connection died [19:31] ikonia: no worries [19:34] peter bye back as a34lkj2348dsf311 [19:36] I assume someone has an eye on #ubuntuforums [19:37] He didn't have anything to contribute [19:37] no buts back [19:38] no but he's back [19:38] as a34lkj2348dsf311 [19:38] as a34lkj2348dsf311 [19:38] yeah [19:38] and all of a sudden he "knows stuff" [19:38] which proves how bad he was trolling before [19:38] plus his name also backs it up [19:42] I've completely forgotten what I was just doing. [19:46] spaying a cat ? [19:57] < PriceChild> faria_khan: You've installed it, want to know if it works, but don' know what it does? [19:58] I'm confused. [20:03] topyli | as i herd theres a debian thing that jaunty was going to use [20:12] Pici: meh, only about 25000 packages [20:16] < erUSUL> PriceChild: FYI « echo 'APT::Install-Recommends "0";' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf » adapted from http://debianalwaysmore.blogspot.com/2008/05/apt-get-install-without-recommends.html [20:17] ah uhm judging from -ot, cw-brad must not be just an idiot, but a troll... [20:17] Haven't looked at that yet. but don't think we have a factoid and if its sane (i believe so?) then maybe..? [20:18] PriceChild: it's relatively sane, until a couple releases ago recommends weren't being pulled by default to begin with [20:18] yep [20:18] PriceChild: however, why would one do that [20:19] PriceChild: when one has aptitude --without-recommends [20:20] I can just imagine people would like to stick to apt-get. meh just an idea. [20:22] PriceChild: possibly. but there's a but, being that since recommends are brought in by default, a few important-but-not-vital dependencies have been moved to recommends [20:23] so it's probably generally speaking a bad idea, although not a *terrible* idea, to avoid isntalling them by default [20:23] yep [20:23] for instance, ubuntu-desktop only brings in network-manager and its friends as recommends [20:24] aptitude lets you avoid installing them selectively, which is probably better in most cases [20:24] it just struck me because i remember a recent blog post about firefox bringing in a ridiculous amount of packages in kubuntu [20:25] PriceChild: was discussing that with someone yesterday, and eventually it seemed to be because of ubufox, which is indeed a recommends [20:25] (not because of firefox-whatever-gnome-support, which is merely a suggests) [20:26] yep [20:35] the recommends vs suggests issue isn't a fun one, thats for sure. [20:35] we made a bug report about ff depending on ubufox, apparently no one cares because it don't affect gnome users [20:36] who isn't an ubuntu user? [20:36] *gnome user [20:36] anyone who wants to use firefox in KDE [20:37] or that doesn't have gnome (only GTK) [20:40] cw-brad in ot [20:40] kick [20:40] anyone? [20:40] thankee [20:41] PriceChild: I would have waited if I saw your reply sooner [20:41] no worries [20:41] He's back, so if you want that chat, you can still have it [20:41] I'm thinking faria_khan is being naughty.. [20:47] prepare for cw ban [20:50] LjL: what immediately preceeded that? [20:50] idiot [20:50] I had sent him the !guidelines from ubottu too [20:50] Flannel, he had done the rm thing in -ot first, then in +1 [20:50] Gotcha [20:50] i already knew he was a troll anyway [20:51] i do like !danger [20:51] he had been an idiot in #ubuntu, even though he just appeared like a clueless person there - but kinda way too clueless to be real [20:51] PriceChild: it's rather handy [20:51] [21:51:11] hey can u un ban me i just idle in channel [20:51] have hardly used it, just like the factoid [20:52] PriceChild: any factoid that includes "danger will robinson" is OK in my book [20:52] note also how he just changed nickname... [20:52] [21:52:03] nvm ill just talk to my step dad who is CEO of ubuntu ill see you tommorrow [20:52] ahaha [20:52] hahahah [20:52] * LjL chuckles. kinda. [20:52] [21:52:34] if you want to appeal your ban, you need to talk to the ops in #ubuntu-ops [20:52] aww [20:52] i thought you might have wanted some fun [20:54] [21:52:57] na [21:53:00] im good [21:53:10] thans for the ip [20:54] ip? bah. [20:54] hello cw-brad, how may we help you? [20:55] you cant [20:55] someone els please [20:55] oh, ok. i'll wander off then. [20:55] cw-brad: How can we help you? [20:55] PM me [20:55] cw-brad: If you have operator related issues, you're welcome to discuss them here in the channel. We don't conduct business in queries. [20:57] personel information will be send only trought PM [20:58] cw-brad: alright, well, if you can find an op who will talk to you about it in a query, you're welcome to. Most business happens here. Accountability and all. [20:58] ok thanks for your ip mark will be calling you [20:59] Since when do telephones run off of IPs? [20:59] Since Mark's alleged stepson lives in Jacksonville, Florida? [20:59] i think he means another mark? [20:59] He ignored my PM anyway. [20:59] not sabdfl? [21:00] PriceChild: Not mark, "Ubuntus CEO" [21:00] or, thats how he referenced, that is. [21:00] Who is..? [21:00] Pici: sabdfl [21:01] Flannel: Didn't I just say that? [21:01] Anyway, I will return later [21:01] Pici: Yes [21:01] @mark #ubuntu-ops cw-brad [21:01]