[01:11] <mncvn> Hi.................... someone from viet nam???
[05:01] <e-jat> where can i refer to migrate AD to ldap ?
[05:55] <osmosis> hows the stability of intrepid server so far? kvm?
[05:58] <colton> Does ubuntu server have a graphical user interface?
[05:58] <ropetin> colton: Yup,  you just have to install it
[05:58] <ropetin> Whichever one you'd like
[05:59] <colton> Ok. So what's the biggest difference between server, and non-server?
[05:59] <colton> Does it come preinstalled with php, mysql, etc.?
[05:59] <ropetin> If you select the appropriate option during install yes
[05:59] <ropetin> Otherwise it's just an 'apt-get' away
[06:01] <colton> So, im having trouble installing an operating system on my computer. When it loads up, from the disc, it says" press enter to continue with the installation, however, when I press enter nothign happens. . .
[06:01] <ropetin> Which O/S?
[06:02] <colton> Debian. but it doesn't matter if it' s vista or ubuntu server, same problem.
[06:03] <ropetin> HW issues?
[06:03] <colton> A while back my keyboard stopped working, I had to change the usb slot it went into and, well, for some reason I think that might be affecting my connection with the computer.
[06:04] <colton> Could it be that my key board will only communicate with one of the slots on my motherboard when an OS is not installed, but then, when the OS gets control, it is capable of using any usb port?
[06:14] <dantalizing> colton: lamp server install is one of the options when you install ubuntu server...otherwise those things (php, mysql) would be added manually
[06:15] <colton> thx
[06:51] <colin_> hi im trying to setup a server to manage clients accounts what should i use
[08:19] <kraut> moin
[09:26] <kaushal> hi
[09:27] <kaushal> I have installed Nagios2 on Ubuntu 8.04 Linux OS
[09:27] <kaushal> using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nagios2
[09:27] <kaushal> I cannot see any services.cfg and hosts.cfg under /etc/nagios2/ directory
[09:27] <kaushal> where can i find it ???
[09:27] <hads> ...
[09:28] <kaushal> hads, are you referring to me
[09:31] <_ruben> kaushal: you'll probably have to populate those files yourself
[09:47] <\sh> grmpf...why the heck is smtpguard still depending on libdb4.3 when the b-d is already on libdb-dev and the package in general already knew about bdb 4.6
[09:48] <piti> Hi. I have a running mail server : postfix, doecot, with virtual domains and users (so admin via postfixadmin). Now I'd like to add mailman to the stuff. How the connections between each services must be to have a well working environement ?
[09:50] <piti> I mean I don't want to break everything doing that, should I try adding it to the exisiting mail stuff, or should I do that on another server ?
[09:51] <soren> \sh: What makes you say the b-d is on libdb-dev?
[09:55] <\sh> soren: well...funny...1.1.3-3 just reached jaunty (with the change to libdb-dev and bdb 4.6) I wonder why the bug was opened in march...the package reached debian in september and why nobody requested UVE sync exception...anyway, jaunty sync was on 2008-11-05 the same goes for bdb 4.7 but smtpguard was just faster with the build thej bdb 4.7 the fourth dimension is time...:(
[09:56] <soren> piti: Integrating mailman with your existing setup is a delicate process. It's very difficult to guide you based on the information you've given.
[09:58] <piti> soren: so I should put it on another system, if I son't want to break the existing one ?
[09:58] <\sh> oh wow...
[09:59] <soren> piti: As I said: It's very hard to guide you based on the information you've given. Knowing that you use postfix and dovecot and have setup virtual domains doesn't reveal much about *how* you've done all of that. What I recommend is for you to consult the mailman documentation.
[10:00] <soren> it outlines how to integrate with postfix quite well.
[10:00] <soren> And then you need to make an educated judgment as to whether it will interfere with your existing setup in a bad way.
[10:00] <piti> soren: but I may give more informations if needed. I tried consulting the mailman doc, but it was something obsure for me
[10:00] <soren> The safe choice, of course, is to install it on a different machine. If you're competent enough, that's just not necessary.
[10:05] <piti> I did it two days ago, but I encountered a trouble: the web interface is ok, I used some of the commands I found in /var/lib/mailman/bin , but the list_admins commands doesn't show me anyone.
[10:06] <piti> list_lists already shows me the three list I did to test, but I'm not able to admin them...
[10:07] <piti> and if I use the wbeinterface to create or admin the lists, I have an error saying I'm not allowed to create new lists...
[10:11] <soren> dunno. I've never created new lists from the web. I always do it from the command line.
[10:33] <oly> anyone recommend a reliable app for backing up a ubuntu server ?
[10:33] <oly> should i use rsync ideally i would like notifications when the backups are complete or error
[10:34] <ascent> bacula, if you want a capable but big beast :)
[10:34] <Deeps> !backup
[10:35] <oly> and if its relevant it will be backed up to a samba share which gets stored on a tape from there
[10:35] <oly> okay will check out those links
[14:14] <rjune> is there a "blessed" interface for working with ldap?
[14:14] <sommer> rjune: ldap-utils
[14:14] <sommer> rjune: I've used ldapscripts and smbldaptools as well
[14:15] <sommer> for gui tools you might check out phpldapadmin and luma
[14:16] <\sh> we should get the apache directory eclipse plugin into ubuntu ;)
[14:18] <sommer> that's not a bad idea
[14:18]  * sommer puts that on things to look into list
[14:18] <\sh> sommer: it's one of the nicest ldap frontends I saw till today...
[14:26] <ScottK> Anyone interested in getting clamav 0.94.1 back into Dapper/Gutsy/Hardy, have a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Clamav  Need testing.
[14:37] <rjune> Luma? I'll look into that, thanks sommer
[14:37] <rjune> I've been using GOsa, which is nice. but needs love
[16:12] <mvo> hi, a quick question: can xen use blockdevice in the qemu/kvm qcow2 format? i.e. when using libvirt, can I just create a xen instance and attach a qcow2 file to it?
[16:16] <jmedina> mvo: propably the latest version
[16:16] <jmedina> to find it out, you better read your xen documentation
[16:17] <jmedina> I know this year the xen team added a patch for qcow2 images
[16:17] <mvo> thanks jmedina
[16:25] <jmedina> but I dont remember to which version, probably 3.3
[16:29] <alonswartz> are there any RubyOnRails developers in the room? I would like to get your thoughts on how you setup a rails development/production server (apt vs. gems)
[16:37] <alonswartz> Are there any debian/ubuntu guys in the room? I would like to get your thoughts on how you setup a rails development/production server (apt vs. gems)
[16:38] <alonswartz> oops! sorry for the double post....
[16:42] <\sh> hmm...for a xen server...should I install linux-image-virtual?
[16:45] <jmedina> \sh: not sure
[16:47] <jmedina> I always install ubuntu-xen-server
[16:48] <jmedina> alonswartz: you can ask in the ubuntu server mailing list
[16:48] <jmedina> I remember there was someone preparing a rails enviroment for intrepid
[16:48] <\sh> jmedina: yes...I did..but somehow I'm not sure on intrepid..I'm missing a kernel
[16:49] <jmedina> \sh: I have not used intrepid, for server virtualization I prefer to attach to the stable (LTS) releases
[16:50] <\sh> jmedina: my other servers are hardy, sure..but I was in an adventure mood yesterday evening ;)
[16:50] <jmedina> even for my destkop
[16:50] <jmedina> jejeje
[16:50] <jmedina> \sh: xen 3.3?
[16:50] <\sh> yepp
[16:51] <jmedina> the green edition :D
[16:53] <\sh> hmm...if this is right (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963625) I need to downgrade to hardy ,-)
[16:54] <\sh> anyhow going home for now
[16:56] <jmedina> \sh: why?
[17:01] <zoopster> In intrepid, trying to run vmbuilder based on the docs I receive an error on device-mapper - incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.27... anyone know what I am doing wrong? this was an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and install of vmbuilder afterwards
[17:15] <BitTorment> hi, i'm having memory problems on my shared hosting server
[17:15] <BitTorment> i was wondering if there are any sysadmin that could have a look at the stats and see if I have a right to complain the company
[17:16] <BitTorment> i know this isn't related to ubuntu-server directly, but thought you might be able to lend a hand
[17:16] <BitTorment> http://pastebin.com/m7fa6a87d
[17:17] <leonel> ScottK:  will clamav 94.1 make into intrepid ???
[17:17] <ScottK> leonel: I think so.
[17:17] <ScottK> That was the original plan.
[17:18] <leonel> ok
[17:19] <leonel> so we must search for clamav  cves or bugs  for 94.0 ?? or go  to 94.1 ?
[17:19] <leonel> this for intrepid ?
[17:19] <jmedina> BitTorment: you have plenty of memory
[17:19] <jmedina> I mean, your system
[17:20] <lifestream> BitTorment, check your scripts and see if they might be causing trouble. if not, and you still thing  the server is no good, it might be time for you to get a vps
[17:20] <BitTorment> jmedina, it's a shared node, so that is shared over serveral server instances
[17:20] <BitTorment> lifestream, it is a vps - which is why i dont think this should be happening
[17:21] <jmedina> BitTorment:  but, that problems?
[17:21] <lifestream> ah
[17:21] <BitTorment> you can see that my top process is only using 38mb
[17:21] <BitTorment> and only 28mb is available to the whole server
[17:21] <jmedina> +/- cache and buffers
[17:23] <BitTorment> the +/- cache and buffers are unfortunately not for my processes
[17:23] <jmedina> sometimes I prefer to use memstat
[17:23] <jmedina> like this
[17:23] <jmedina> http://debaday.debian.net/2008/10/19/memstat-identify-what-is-using-up-virtual-memory/
[17:24] <BitTorment> my main concern is the amount of swap being used
[17:24] <BitTorment> i think that is causing the slowness on serving requests
[17:26] <BitTorment> but am I correct in thinking that my processes aren't the problem? -- my most memory hungry process is using only 38mb
[17:27] <BitTorment> (top is sorted by memory usage there)
[17:27] <ascent> jmedina: nice app! never knew it existed :)
[18:22] <fevel> Hi
[18:23] <fevel> I would like to set up an authenticated proxy using ubuntu server, Is there any documents that I could read about the subject?
[18:32] <kraut> fevel: just search for squid
[18:32] <kraut> do you mean web proxy?
[18:53] <Faust-C> does the 64bit version lack any software?
[18:53] <rrittenhouse> Does anyone know why i can't seem to get write permissions when i mount a server via sftp using Connect To Server in gnome... connecting as www-data with using public key auth.  and the folder  has read/write access to the folder?
[18:53] <Faust-C> compared to 32bit
[18:54] <rrittenhouse> Faust-C: I can tell you first hand using it for a desktop is iffy if you have to use a lot of flash :P
[18:54] <Faust-C> im referring to server
[18:54] <Faust-C> desktop i would use 32
[18:55] <rrittenhouse> Faust-C: I'm not sure. I have a 64bit machine with 8gb of ram but flash was so bad I opted to use only 4gb of it. In relation to server I believe you can go check the package repos online if your looking for a specific package. Aside from that I'm not sure what varies off the top of my head. Anyone else?
[18:56] <Faust-C> ic
[19:21] <arrrghhh> is there a way for rm to show progress?  i replaced cp with gcp (rsync) and now i'd like some visual feedback with rm as well...
[19:27] <jmarsden|work> arrrghhh: rm -v looks appropriate?
[19:28] <arrrghhh> jmarsden, that works
[19:28] <arrrghhh> maybe i should've read the man page lol.  i figured it was like mv and cp, no actual progress.
[19:28] <jmarsden|work> arrrghhh: I thin cp -v would work too, instead of replacing cp :-)
[19:39] <arrrghhh> well
[19:40] <arrrghhh> it does... but not really.  it gives me the progress of what file it's on... but not what that file's progress is
[19:40] <arrrghhh> plus rsync is a much better way to do it as it won't copy anything that's already there.
[19:42] <LoveGuru> HI, i m running Ubuntu Server i installed LAMP on it.. i want to know its installed correctly and working or not .. could someone help me with that?
[19:51] <ScottK> leonel: I've gone through and pulled out what I think are the security related changes from earlier releases that we missed.  I'm currently having some hard drive trouble here.  If I mail the patches (they are commits from the clamav svn) to you, could you look and see about assembling them into an update?
[19:52] <leonel> ScottK:  send it  I check that
[19:52] <ScottK> OK.
[19:52] <ScottK> leonel: To what address?
[19:53] <ScottK> PM it to me if you don't want it logged.
[20:00] <corelist> hi, any one have had any experience around fibre optice netwokrs with ubuntu-server? i am asked to run a gateway with linux, my choise is gonna be ubuntu, and first issue seems to be driver for pci media converters!
[20:06] <mattwalstonfromj> Post install for ltsp-standalone failed when restarting dhcpd.  I checked log, no mention, attempted to run in foreground as root and get the following message: Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied.  My system is running on 8.10.  Any ideas?
[20:07] <ScottK> mattwalstonfromj: Does /var/run/dhcp exist?
[20:07] <mattwalstonfromj> ScottK: No
[20:07] <mattwalstonfromj> ScottK: I can touch the file and delete it.  Also no dhcpd process are running.
[20:08] <ScottK> It sounds like a bug in an init script as generally the pid file should be at /var/run/$PACKAGE/$PACKAGE.pid, but it should work OK there.
[20:10] <ScottK> Not sure what to do though.
[20:11] <nijaba> mattwalstonfromj: did you try to put AppArmor in complain mode?
[20:11] <ScottK> Good thought.
[20:12]  * ScottK is trying to hunt down the ltsp maintainer.
[20:12] <stgraber> hey there
[20:13] <mattwalstonfromj> nijaba: just resolved... apparently init script uses /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf if present instead of my /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[20:13] <ScottK> mattwalstonfromj: ^^ stgraber is the Ubuntu ltsp maintainer
[20:13] <nijaba> ScottK: ogra it is, right?
[20:14] <stgraber> mattwalstonfromj: that's right, you should use /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[20:14] <ScottK> nijaba: stgraber now.
[20:14] <stgraber> nijaba: ogra is too busy with ubuntu mobile, I'm doing LTSP now
[20:14] <nijaba> stgraber: congratulations
[20:14] <ogra> nijaba, i'm just the upload bitch until stgraber gets upload rights
[20:14] <nijaba> heh
[20:14] <ogra> then i will concetrate on upstream work only wrt ltsp
[20:15] <stgraber> ogra: btw, don't forget to answer that mail to motu-council :)
[20:15] <mattwalstonfromj> stgraber: i just moved it to dhcpd.conf to .dist and it worked... fyi, this was a distribution upgrade
[20:15] <ogra> its way easier to develop on it if you dont have the release schedule sitting in your back
[20:15] <ogra> stgraber, will do soon, sorry got a massively busy day
[20:16] <stgraber> ogra: yeah, and for me release schedule matches our own customer update schedule so quite easy to do both actually :)
[20:16] <ogra> yep
[20:16] <stgraber> ogra: btw, I have the latest ltsp and ldm in my PPA, they seem to work, just some fixes and packaging work to do before I get something to upload to Jaunty
[20:16] <ogra> perfect !
[21:18] <arrrghhh> what is the _best_ way to get files off of an ubuntu server to a windows machine?  i already have nfs setup on the ubuntu server.
[21:19] <sommer> arrrghhh: probably samba, but you could also use winscp... if you have ssh setup on the ubuntu machine
[21:19] <arrrghhh> yea winscp is moving at 1200k..
[21:19] <arrrghhh> on a local network i figured it should be a _little_ faster than that...
[21:19] <sommer> heh, so would I
[21:20] <sommer> you could also setup an ftp connection from one to the other
[21:20] <arrrghhh> 9gb is going to take 2 hrs to transfer lol
[21:20] <arrrghhh> well vsftp is runnin on the srever
[21:20] <arrrghhh> server
[21:21] <jmedina> samba
[21:21] <sommer> I've found that xcopy is usually the fastest way to move files in windows
[21:21] <jmedina> samba is preconfigured in ubuntu
[21:21] <arrrghhh> yea i should probably work with samba
[21:21] <sommer> so if you setup samba and map a drive it should be faster
[21:21] <jmedina> to share the homes for the users
[21:21] <arrrghhh> what do you mean "preconfigured"?
[21:22] <jmedina> and automatically create samba accounts for all the locan users in /etc/passwd
[21:25] <arrrghhh> jmedina, so what do i have to do to get samba working?  i don't see anything available on the windows client.
[22:05] <arrrghhh> does rsync follow bind mounts?
[22:22] <arrrghhh> anyone know how to rsync /home?
[22:24] <lukehasnoname> rsync -avh /home/ /backupdir/
[22:30] <andol> arrrghhh: Not sure on bind mounts, but how hard is it for you to test it yourself? :)
[22:30] <arrrghhh> i don't have permissions i guess
[22:31] <andol> lukehasnoname: I belive you actually mean rsync -avH? :)
[22:32] <lukehasnoname> >_>
[22:34] <andol> arrrghhh: yes, rsync works in a bind mount.
[22:35] <arrrghhh> i want it to ignore bind mounts.
[22:35] <arrrghhh> is that possible?
[22:37] <andol> arrrghhh: -x will do that for you
[22:37] <arrrghhh> really now sweet
[22:38] <arrrghhh> oh of course  --one-file-system
[22:38] <andol> arrrghhh: Actually, I might have been wrong about that :) sorry
[22:38] <andol> sorry
[22:39] <arrrghhh> i guess i could test out some --exclude rules
[22:40] <lukehasnoname> exclude bugs me because it doesn't work the way it says... the syntax in the instructions is ambiguous at best
[22:52] <arrrghhh> hrm
[22:52] <arrrghhh> what would be the best way to backup my /home partition?
[22:52] <arrrghhh> since it's on a separate parition i figured it would be easy to backup...
[22:53] <andol> arrrghhh: That very much depends on what you want to accomplish, what you have in it, where you want to back it up to, etc
[22:54] <arrrghhh> i mainly want everything, but stick to the /home partition, i don't want it to follow the bind mounts i have in place.  i'd like it to backup from my desktop to my NAS server.
[22:55] <arrrghhh> i seem to be having extra trouble since it is the /home and permissions etc.
[23:02] <cgillogly> question: anyone know why GVFS makes files read-only when i connect to a server using www-data, but when i connect to another server (using root because of the retarded previous admin) it doesn't do that ... the permissions on the dir and files i'm trying to edit from are correct, 755 & 644 (dir / file)
[23:02] <cgillogly> fyi, i'm using hardy for the server and ibex for the client connecting
[23:45] <fromport> this is probably better channel to ask this:  after a forced reboot (poweroutage) my ubuntu server cannot find any LVM partitions anymore. anybody has some hints/tricks ?
[23:53] <maw_> I need help with "time" / "timezones". I set my timezone to be ETC/GMT-7
[23:53] <maw_> however, on reboot my time changes into the future to exactly the time of "GMT+7"
[23:54] <maw_> the hwclock is set to the correct GMT-7 time, but when the OS reboots it is showing GMT+7 time..